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We all know the saying "Never argue with an idiot, people watching may not be able to tell the difference".  

Over the last few days I have been countering a lot of tag-team idiots, and I can envision Theymos shaking his head sadly every time we post.  It's become redundant and boring.

The kicker is - I'm the only one on DT, so I'm the only one that is losing when people see us all as idiots.

So I'm just going to click "ignore" on these three idiots and let them post their garbage.  Their aim is to intimidate me and make me react, but I'm not like that anymore.

I'm starting a new thread for this because I want people to be aware that if I don't reply, it's not because I can't counter, it's because I'm not going to see their idiot messages.  I will let time work in my favor  :)

The projection in this post...

And the hoping to cover up evidence lol https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5149932.0

Perhaps you should have asked if deleting a message from your inbox would have removed the message from the other persons outbox.

This is rich. Vod is in the middle of a full blown mental breakdown, spreading lies and arguing nonsense, but other people are the idiots? LOL.

Vod, you are coming off as a total tool with everything you post. Admit you’re a liar and ask for forgiveness already. You keep doubling down on being an idiot, and I’m embarrassed for you.

Anyone who spends their time continiously arguing over the smallest shit is an idiot.

I've lost track of all the pointless new threads over the last few days and weeks. Vod v OgNasty, QS v Hhampuz, CH/TOAA/mightyDT/Thule/et al v everyone, marlboroza v TECSHARE, teeGUMES/Bill Gator/Rmcdermott927 v Lauda, pretty much everyone v everyone else in various combinations. Every thread seems to degenerate quickly in to simply insulting each other, and as far as I can tell, no one has ever come close to changing someone's mind on any of these issues.

We also all know the saying "The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again, but expecting different results." If you genuinely feel the need to leave a negative rating for another member then by all means do so, but I would thoroughly implore everyone involved to stop the never-ending circular arguments, stop leaving ever escalating amounts of frivolous retaliatory red trust, hit that ignore button, and move on with your lives. It would be good for you and it would be good for the forum.

Whaa, I'm not even listed first anymore? It seems that I have become boring. :'(

Utopian thinking. Sounds good, but doesn't work without extremist/radical measures. :)

Very well spoken @VOD.... there are just to many threads trying to break a member with flawed accusations etc
I also just stop Reading those threads to much as its just noise each single time over and over again, with walls of pointless text.....

Good you ignore them and we know you can counter, but for F*** sake why keep going with those meaningless alt account members etc....

Good call!!

Good decision Vod. You should rather channel all your energy on the BIP project and stay off the forum drama as it certainly will slow down your productivity. I've been reading those threads since a past few weeks and it seems everyone wants to satisfy their ego. These discussions are often illogical, personal and don't intend to create a positive impact on the forum or personal lives. I'd instead see you writing code and introducing new features on the BIP project than wasting time here proving a point that won't make any difference.

THANK THE LORD! HALLELUJAH! I can finally look forward to Vod not following me around to start shit constantly. One can only hope it lasts longer than the week it did last time he ignored me forever.



No surprise Vod suddenly decides to go silent when he caught himself in his own web of bullshit.

I'll state my opinion and walk away
so I can state my opinion another day.  :)

Finally, If only more forum veteran members can do the same then the forum can attain a peaceful working environment. The truth is most lower rank user lookup to you guys, you see them making references and adoring most active veteran members on their posts and the whole drama was just saying otherwise. The trolls have been feeding off the arguments and political drama ongoing for the last couple of weeks, glad we'll see a reduction from now henceforth.

If only the other DT members could do the same, this is actually the first time I see a DT member has decided to stop on all of these useless fight circulating around in the forum and do what's best for the community. Whether Vod has his own reasons or not for stopping what he will do is something that theymos would gladly accept and appreciate as DTs fighting over one another is something that he didn't expect to last for this long, it simply doesn't make a good image of what a DT member should be in the forum.

Vod is a liar who is 100% in the wrong with this situation, so of course plugging his ears with his fingers like a child is the best move for him. The only other things he can do is what he’s been doing, abuse the trust network and spout lies...

It is the same thing he does every time he gets caught red handed being insane and abusive. He "disappears" for a few days or weeks and hopes people will either forget or be distracted by some other drama, then he returns and repeats the exact same behavior over and over while everyone with any kind of authority on this forum pretends it never happened. This is exactly why no one has any respect for ANY authority figures on this forum. Rules for thee but not for me. Then anyone who points out this double standard is a "troll" or an "idiot."

Vod, you don’t have to explain yourself to anybody, really. OG & yourself have had very publicised disagreements but whatever. You certainly don’t have to get involved with lowly rated accounts & trolls. Just ignore the bullshit & get on with your life. You do a good job on DT, dealing with scammers etc & you add a lot of positive things for our community.

Yeah, why should Vod be responsible for his own actions? That is only for everyone who is not a member of the Politburo.

TECSHARE, what is your problem?
You’re just a more functional, more intelligent cryptohunter. You’re in Meta & Reputation moaning/complaining at least as much as him & Thule.

You have lots of positive trust & are respected by a lot of people so what exactly is your problem with the DT set up?

I don’t see why you’re so passionate about something that doesn’t seem to be negatively impacting you?

I know that definition quite well, and I try to keep it in mind in my real life and on bitcointalk, which is why I have most of the troll posse on ignore and have been trying not to engage in all of this drama--and Vod's drama here is definitely not my own.  However, I think he's doing the right thing by backing off from the insanity, which really doesn't need to be escalated any further.

I'm getting shit about some of the positive trusts I've left and for having bill gator in my trust list.  All I can say is that I'll have to agree to disagree with anyone who criticizes me about that stuff--unless the situation changes, of course, in which case I will happily re-evaluate my ratings and trust list.  Anyway, there's too much fighting and drama between both trusted and untrusted members, and it's tiresome.  I don't want to fight anymore, and I'm pretty sure Vod doesn't want to either.

That one is obvious: he's not on the DT list anymore and feels he should be based on all the deals he's done.  But you have to look at why he was removed to understand what the problem is, and I'll leave that for you to discover.

@ TP

I’ll do some digging & read up.

TECSHARE has been on his "first exclusion ever" for at least 49 consecutive months (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=853522.msg10908259#msg10908259) now. 

It's obvious he wants the world to change instead of him.  Never argue with an idiot. :/

You are asking the wrong question. The real question is what incentive to I have to cooperate with such a flawed system when it gives me absolutely zero incentive to do so? Every tool short of plastering me red has been abused to try to silence my criticisms, and I will never be allowed redemption. The only reason I am not plastered with red is because these tools know if they did that they would only be exposing themselves for what they really are. I know you brown nosers are fond of guilt by association but I am nothing like either of those tools. My problem with the DT setup is it enables the WORST kind of abusive behavior in people with zero accountability, furthermore allows good contributing users to be singled out one by one. This community used to be one of the few bastions for individualists, an escape from the norm of this kind of group think psychopathic behavior that proliferates literally every other platform. Not any more.

This is a straight up Communist system, and the Politburo is telling me "you didn't build that reputation, we did" and appropriating it as a tool of retribution for criticizing them. I know for a fact a lot of more quiet users here privately agree with me but would never dare say so publicly because they know people like you and your toady buddies will come out if the woodwork and attack them in any way possible, including reducing their ability to trade. They are already doing that to me, so might as well be the whipping boy and get to speak freely at least. This is all about trying to force me to "bend the knee", and punishing me for refusing. Have you ever asked yourself why I get so much flack for simply offering a critical opinion? Think on that for a minute...



Vod absolutely LOVES drama, because it is his primary method for hiding his own pattern of abusive behavior (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=915823.0) which is seemingly invisible to you all. He goes too far, pretends to be sorry, and goes away for a while hoping everyone will forget. Now he is even skipping the running and hiding step because you all have emboldened him so much in his assurance he will never face consequences for his behavior.

You don't have to leave that for him to discover, you can read all about it here (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=853522.0). Funny you have such a strong opinion on this considering you don't even know what happened LFC. Hey Pharmy maybe you can regal us all with some more stories about how abusive I am for leaving you a neutral rating again. I am sure your response has nothing to do with that bunch of panties implanted firmly up your ass.




We all know you don't have the self control to ignore me forever (as your comment shows), but one can only hope. At least then I won't have you following me around and abusing the trust system against me every time I say anything even slightly critical of you.

He literally replied to The Pharmacist. The Pharmacist replied to LFC_Bitcoin and LFC_Bitcoin previously quoted your post.

So, why do you think you are one of the 3 idiots?  :)

I can't see what he writes.  It makes him feel better to believe so I guess.

He spent three years gathering trust reselling trinkets simply because his reciprocal trust was shown more than others.
NOW he has spent four years complaining he can't resell his trinkets because his reciprocal trust is no longer shown more than others.

:(

Thanks captain obvious. He can't resist talking about me, as the comment shows. He can't resist talking about me because I refuse to give in to his intimidation tactics, and like all power hungry knobs he is obsessed with attacking those that dare criticize them. You are so desperate to latch on to anything you can to try to marginalize me. Guess what (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gGxwsGa1dX4). I know he is referring to me because I just called him out in getting caught up in his own lies (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=211858.msg51316547#msg51316547), which is why he suddenly decides he is above this all so he doesn't have to answer for his inconsistencies. Vod is not only abusive and psychotic, he is totally full of shit.

Nah, it's not what you said.

Definition of ignore (https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/ignore)

transitive verb
1 : to refuse to take notice of

I am sorry neither of you learned to use the English language. Keep reaching Stretch Armstrong.

vod you cant argue with the facts that are being presented to you,second you are spreading lies to cover up your scandals,third you are totally messed up things here,fourth you are done your reputation is totally rektd,these are the reason why i can say you are rubbish idiotic moron.

I really have no idea what you're talking about.  My reputation has not changed so I can only conclude you are using repetition to make your fantasies more plausible?  Your idiot friend in this thread is doing the same I assume.

Anyway, not going to argue with you - on ignore you go.  :/

You edited something in post.

“Never argue with an idiot. They will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.”  © Mark Twain  (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mark_Twain)

Better use that rule, than "Never argue with an idiot, people watching may not be able to tell the difference".    :)

Yeah, I included the entire sentence from the original quote since you selectively edited it. What part of this makes you less illiterate?

     You may get a better understanding by reading through this thread https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=853522.0. Don't forget to also read through the thread that Tecshare references in his OP as well. There is probably much more to the story, though. DYOR

It's at a point where stepping away from it is the only thing that works. Think of it as a messy divorce. You can't make people communicate calmly if they don't want to act in good faith, and even if you could - there doesn't seem to be a long-term positive outcome to aim for.

That sums it up, pretty much...

Who said anything about being censored? You have difficulties with reading comprehension. I have already had penalties imposed on me for speaking freely, so now I get to say whatever I like. Funny, you always seem to make these comments after you run out of arguments in Politics & Society (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5120877.msg51381157#msg51381157) and run away else where to get retribution for getting spanked for your total lack of logic. How about you just debate like a big boy? Oh right, you are incapable of anything except Pathos.

Since we are bringing up old quotes:


Hmm, it is almost like I warned you all this current state of affairs would develop.



account selling > rambling

The main idiot is still arguing, just with different people.  If I lock this thread he will REEEcreate another.  :/

What do you suggest be done to end this finally, that we haven't tried over the last four years?   

People have voiced their opinions, now everything is being repeated ad infinitum. 

Please don't blame me for the actions of others.  I am no longer arguing with him, hence the thread title.

I did my best to steer clear of you, you started this shit (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=915823.0), as you always do over (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=915823.msg10848601#msg10848601) and over (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5144134.0) and over again (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5118173.msg50066491#msg50066491). Please, spare us the victim sob story. You have no one to blame but yourself. Funny, you seemed to think you could negative rate me from a position of DT1 simply for having opinions critical of your behavior which is how all of this began. I guess only special people like you get to have opinions. Funny how you "aren't arguing with" me, but you are still going on and on about me. You can't help yourself, that is the defining trait of your obsessive compulsive behavior.

Hey look what I dug up!






So which is it Vod? You are contradicting yourself in your own words. Oh right, you are pretending to be the better man so you don't have to respond to being caught being abusive and then blatantly lying about it to save yourself from digging your pit of bullshit even deeper trying to explain it.

^ ^  OK, I let the idiot have the last word.  If he wants to continue it, it won't be under my sponsorship.   :)