Title: 60M posts! View unedited/deleted posts (search per post, per user or per topic) Post by: LoyceV on July 21, 2019, 05:08:59 PM February 22, 2020: All updates are now live! August 12, 2020: I finished scraping all oldposts (https://loyce.club/archive/oldposts/)! Ever wanted to see who's lying when a post has been edited or deleted? I may be able to help! I archive most posts within seconds after they are created (before any edits). I started this data collection around the time I started this topic. All data I have since then is available online. I also have older posts: I've saved (most) unedited posts (6.2 million posts) since September 12, 2018, until the start of this topic. This data has not been added to this topic, and I can't really add it because I tried to remove quotes and that has some bugs. You can request to dig up unedited data when needed. Viewing unedited/deleted posts
How to use it Just click one of the links, and enter the msgID, userID or topicID. Or (this older method still works):
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Older posts Sneak preview: https://loyce.club/archive/oldposts/ How to use:
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If no username is mentioned, it's either "Anonymous" or "random". I forgot those exist when I started scraping, and it's not important enough to start over. If anything goes wrong, let me know here. See [overview] LoyceV's useful data on Bitcointalk (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5145594.0) for more of my forum-related topics Title: Re: Viewing unedited posts Post by: suchmoon on July 21, 2019, 05:43:03 PM quotes are not very clear If you'd like to fix that: wrap the HTML in <div class="post">...</div> and use the following CSS: Code: .post { It's by no means complete (still has problems with code tags etc) but should help with the quotes and makes it look similar to Bitcointalk styling. You can save it as a .css file and just reference in each html so space usage would be minimal and then you can adjust the CSS as needed. Title: Re: Viewing unedited posts Post by: LoyceV on July 21, 2019, 06:37:54 PM If you'd like to fix that: wrap the HTML in <div class="post">...</div> and use the following CSS: Thanks!The "div class post" part is there already, I never removed it. I'll make some more adjustments, I was lazy using some headers from the forum HTML, but I'll recreate them on my own. I've named it suchmoon.css :) Code: I'm creating a new post to test the new version. I'm also adding some code Update: see http://loyce.club/archive/posts/5190/51903915.html Title: Re: Viewing unedited posts Post by: suchmoon on July 21, 2019, 06:40:59 PM The "div class post" part is there already, I never removed it. I'll make some more adjustments, I was lazy using some headers from the forum HTML, but I'll recreate them on my own. I've named it suchmoon.css :) Feel free to call it theymos.css because it's mostly stolen from here: https://bitcointalk.org/Themes/custom1/style.css :) You can Title: Re: Viewing unedited posts Post by: LoyceV on July 21, 2019, 07:02:31 PM Feel free to call it theymos.css because it's mostly stolen from here: https://bitcointalk.org/Themes/custom1/style.css :) I didn't know CSS is that easy :DYou can It works :D See http://loyce.club/archive/posts/5190/51904241.html Title: Re: Viewing unedited posts and deleted posts Post by: LoyceV on July 22, 2019, 07:14:16 PM This morning, I checked http://loyce.club/archive/posts/members/?SD and it instantly revealed a spammer: http://loyce.club/archive/posts/members/1514722.html It got me thinking: I can create a daily list of users (sorted by the number of posts they made in the past 24 hours). That would instantly highlight users who post a lot, and makes it easy to identify bump spammers. If anyone's interested to check it once in a while, I'll make it :) Title: Re: Viewing unedited posts and deleted posts Post by: Timelord2067 on July 23, 2019, 08:22:59 AM [quote author=LoyceV link=topic=5167469.msg51915669#msg51915669 date=1563822856]
Bump! [quote author=LoyceV link=topic=4720640.msg51908047#msg51908047 date=1563775702] This morning, I checked http://loyce.club/archive/posts/members/?SD and it instantly revealed a spammer: http://loyce.club/archive/posts/members/1514722.html It got me thinking: I can create a daily list of users (sorted by the number of posts they made in the past 24 hours). That would instantly highlight users who post a lot, and makes it easy to identify bump spammers. If anyone's interested to check it once in a while, I'll make it :)[/quote] [/quote] I thought I'd see how significant the posts step down at the 8k/4k file size: https://talkimg.com/images/2023/05/17/blob5c79176719ee2b6a.jpeg the middle one had just one post while the first and third have 29 and eight respectively. I guess the posting list will ebb and surge during holidays and work days/week-ends. Perhaps a known spammers' link be changed to another colour? (red/purple/orange etc for spammer/scammer nuked Flag etc)?? Where might we post our findings? Title: Re: Viewing unedited posts and deleted posts Post by: LoyceV on July 23, 2019, 08:31:44 AM I thought I'd see how significant the posts step down at the 8k/4k file size: The third one in your list has 8 posts. Those 8k/4k aren't real file sizes, I think the webserver shows the block size it uses on the file system.https://i.imgur.com/Y6iayNB.jpg the middle one had just one post while the first and third have 29 and eight respectively. That means this isn't the best way to sort files. I'll add it to my TODO: create a index.html with more information. Quote Perhaps a known spammers' link be changed to another colour? (red/purple/orange etc for spammer/scammer nuked Flag etc)?? I can Quote Where might we post our findings? I'm not sure, maybe a separate thread?Title: Re: Viewing unedited posts and deleted posts Post by: Timelord2067 on July 23, 2019, 08:43:14 AM Instead of the 8k/4k approx file size an actual post count?
Also, (am making work for you now) a sort by file name / last posted etc? Quote Quote Where might we post our findings? I'm not sure, maybe a separate thread?Perhaps self moderated and a simple code Code: date: (time GMT) people can see when the posts were last reviewed so they aren't doubling up on work? Title: Re: Viewing unedited posts and deleted posts Post by: LoyceMobile on July 23, 2019, 10:17:08 PM Just a thought: if I get deleted posts from modlog, I can highlight them too.
Another idea: list posts for each topicID, so it's easier to find posts that have been deleted from a certain topic. Title: Re: Viewing unedited posts and deleted posts Post by: LoyceMobile on July 28, 2019, 08:36:31 PM The member directory got messed up, I can't access my VPS from here so just don't look at it for the coming week.....
Title: Re: Viewing unedited posts and deleted posts Post by: nutildah on August 01, 2019, 01:29:41 PM So, just that I understand what's going on here, you're saving the first version of every post made by everybody, ever? I don't quite get what you're doing I guess.
Title: Re: Viewing unedited posts and deleted posts Post by: LoyceV on August 01, 2019, 01:39:26 PM you're saving the first version of every post made by everybody, ever? Correct (http://loyce.club/archive/posts/5202/52027664.html).Update (http://loyce.club/archive/posts/5202/52027758.html). Title: Re: Viewing unedited posts and deleted posts Post by: tranthidung on August 01, 2019, 02:34:12 PM you're saving the first version of every post made by everybody, ever? Correct (http://loyce.club/archive/posts/5202/52027664.html).Update (http://loyce.club/archive/posts/5202/52027758.html). are all my edits within the first 10 minutes also logged? No, edits in the grace period are not logged. btw, is this still the same TradeFortress? Probably. Title: Re: Viewing unedited posts and deleted posts Post by: LoyceV on August 01, 2019, 02:41:14 PM I think it should be the version of posts within 15 minutes (if I am remembering correctly) after published. It will be more matched with forum data. Only posts edited after 15 minutes will be shown with editing history and last editing time. Posts can be edited for 10 minutes without showing (or even keeping!) an edit history. But I'm not aiming to match the forum, I'm aiming to show the unedited post. And I can only download posts from recent (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=recent) when they're new, searching for posts that are 10 minutes old will be more work.Title: Re: Viewing unedited posts and deleted posts Post by: nutildah on August 01, 2019, 02:45:07 PM Wow Loyce, you've really managed to outdo yourself this time.
Can we keep this on the downlow, I'm sure it could be quite a weapon, lol. I'm just kidding, about the downlow part. If its a weapon everyone should have equal access to it. Its going to be a great utility for busting liars. Title: Re: Viewing unedited posts and deleted posts Post by: tranthidung on August 01, 2019, 02:48:32 PM I think it should be the version of posts within 15 minutes (if I am remembering correctly) after published. It will be more matched with forum data. Only posts edited after 15 minutes will be shown with editing history and last editing time. Posts can be edited for 10 minutes without showing (or even keeping!) an edit history. But I'm not aiming to match the forum, I'm aiming to show the unedited post. And I can only download posts from recent (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=recent) when they're new, searching for posts that are 10 minutes old will be more work.Title: Re: Viewing unedited posts and deleted posts Post by: LoyceV on August 03, 2019, 08:50:43 AM I'm sure it could be quite a weapon, lol. If the truth can be used as a weapon against someone, he totally deserves it :PQuote Its going to be a great utility for busting liars. I'm not sure yet how to keep it long-term though, it currently grows at a rate of about 2 GB and a couple of hundred thousand files per month. I'll get a bigger hosting soon, but long-term, I'm looking at some serious hosting requirements.My first priority is moving more of my data to a VPS, and get a more permanent solution (the current VPS is paid per month). Checked it, and saw only ten pages available. Is it a fixed one (for all)? I only download the first page, there's not really a need to download other pages, as long as I get the first one often enough.Just a thought: if I get deleted posts from modlog, I can highlight them too. To answer my own suggestion: this won't work, modlog doesn't show which post was deleted.Title: Re: Viewing unedited posts and deleted posts Post by: nutildah on August 03, 2019, 08:58:57 AM I'm sure it could be quite a weapon, lol. If the truth can be used as a weapon against someone, he totally deserves it :PWell said. Quotable LoyceV. Of course you are inadvertently insinuating that women never lie. :D I'm thinking eventually it will be handy in trying to compare writing styles between users, in addition to the usual "but you originally said this" type situations. I know you could probably parse all the text from particular users from the forum itself, but in the format on your server its easier for me to attempt such a thing. I encourage you to keep it up as long as you can. Title: Re: Viewing unedited posts and deleted posts Post by: nutildah on August 07, 2019, 07:34:49 AM Hmm... Website seems to be down, might want to take a look at it...
Title: Re: Viewing unedited posts and deleted posts Post by: LoyceV on August 07, 2019, 07:51:24 AM Hmm... Website seems to be down, might want to take a look at it... Great! I was waiting for that (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5145594.msg52082273#msg52082273) :)Now see if I can get it back up :D Title: Re: Viewing unedited posts and deleted posts Post by: Steamtyme on August 07, 2019, 07:53:01 AM Does it have anything to do with the recount theymos did? Not sure how that would affect the data LoyceV uses.
I did a recount of post counts earlier today. There are several bugs which cause the post count to drift from its real value over time. The current count is the accurate one. I do recounts from time to time. Edit: I guess not, just behind the scenes Title: Re: Viewing unedited posts and deleted posts Post by: LoyceV on August 20, 2019, 05:41:41 PM See http://loyce.club/archive/posts/ for all posts This is currently uploading data from the past days. When done, new posts should be available online in less than a minute.Update August 23: Upload will take a few more hours to catch up. Quote See http://loyce.club/archive/posts/members/ for all posts made per a certain userID This part is still disabled.Title: Re: Viewing unedited posts and deleted posts Post by: LoyceV on August 23, 2019, 02:12:07 PM There was a bug that overwrote files a few times. Some of the scraped posts were as old as a minute or more.
I fixed the bug, let's see how long it takes to Update: http://loyce.club/archive/posts/5224/52243599.html was scraped 1 second after posting. Let me know if anything else fails. Title: Re: Viewing unedited posts and deleted posts Post by: Timelord2067 on August 28, 2019, 03:25:03 PM Bump Is this user's posts (http://loyce.club/archive/posts/members/982288.html) able to be updated at all? Title: Re: Viewing unedited posts and deleted posts Post by: LoyceV on August 28, 2019, 03:38:59 PM Is this user's posts (http://loyce.club/archive/posts/members/982288.html) able to be updated at all? The scraping should be okay now, but I didn't fix the upload yet. I've uploaded an update for just this file.I didn't notice before, but it shows many duplicate lines. The links to "scraped" don't work either, you'll have to manually change "/posts/posts/" in the URL to "/posts/". Sorry for this, I haven't had the time to fix this yet. Title: Re: Viewing unedited posts and deleted posts Post by: Timelord2067 on August 28, 2019, 03:48:13 PM Is this user's posts (http://loyce.club/archive/posts/members/982288.html) able to be updated at all? The scraping should be okay now, but I didn't fix the upload yet. I've uploaded an update for just this file.I didn't notice before, but it shows many duplicate lines. The links to "scraped" don't work either, you'll have to manually change "/posts/posts/" in the URL to "/posts/". Sorry for this, I haven't had the time to fix this yet. Thanks, I'll check back this time tomorrow (my free time this week is fairly limited) Regards, Title: Re: Viewing unedited posts and deleted posts Post by: LoyceV on August 29, 2019, 06:02:34 AM Last night, "recent (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=recent)" was broken (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5179751.0) for 8 hours. It's the first time I've seen that, theymos didn't post yet what caused it.
As a result, I couldn't scrape anything between post 52295210 (http://loyce.club/archive/posts/5229/52295210.html) and post 52297852 (http://loyce.club/archive/posts/5229/52297852.html). That means I'm missing 2641 posts. Title: Re: Viewing unedited posts and deleted posts Post by: LoyceV on September 03, 2019, 07:44:04 AM I just checked loyce.club/archive/posts/5233/ (http://loyce.club/archive/posts/5233/): it shows 9994 files. That means my scraper missed 6 posts, or 0.06%.
This might have been caused by burst posting (faster than my scraper can handle), or those 6 posts could be in Investigation or some other hidden board that normal users can't access. Title: Re: Viewing unedited posts and deleted posts Post by: legendster on September 07, 2019, 12:16:13 AM A great tool. But I have some thoughts about the possible use and misuse of this.
Let's talk about the positive first. I am amidst manually collecting data from a few accounts that is operated by one individual. Now, I have an X number of accounts linked with this person but I am sure this person has 2X the number of accounts in total. I am just being lucky to collect the ones where he has made some errors. So if I post this half report of these linked accounts, then the person would be alerted and would, in theory, try to delete all his errors from all of his accounts' post history. Your tool, could stop this. This basically enables you to get the posts made by anyone at the first instance they hit post. Which is great in this kind of example. But now let's talk about the bad side. Your tool is freely available for anyone to use. The very same person I am trying to bust for multi-accounting, is also using information scattered about me on this forum to track my identity and send me threatening messages on my telegram, phone etc. This kind of tool would essentially be a weapon in the hands of such blackmailers and extortioners. Furthermore, In our country, our government is banning crypto, so if I posted my information here and if tomorrow some government agency wanted to track me down - then your tool is going to enable them to do that. And possibly land a person in jail for 10 years - just for being associated with crypto. Now, I'd like to hear your thoughts about these 2 situations. What do you intend to do to avoid / solve such issues? Title: Re: Viewing unedited posts and deleted posts Post by: suchmoon on September 07, 2019, 12:35:04 AM Now, I'd like to hear your thoughts about these 2 situations. What do you intend to do to avoid / solve such issues? It's not LoyceV's responsibility to solve it. If you post something you shouldn't have - it's your problem. The government doesn't need LoyceV's site, they can just grab the info directly from Bitcointalk, Google cache, archive sites, or NSA hard drives. Title: Re: Viewing unedited posts and deleted posts Post by: eddie13 on September 07, 2019, 01:33:46 AM What I do
You're glowing.. Title: Re: Viewing unedited posts and deleted posts Post by: legendster on September 07, 2019, 03:00:39 AM Now, I'd like to hear your thoughts about these 2 situations. What do you intend to do to avoid / solve such issues? It's not LoyceV's responsibility to solve it. If you post something you shouldn't have - it's your problem. The government doesn't need LoyceV's site, they can just grab the info directly from Bitcointalk, Google cache, archive sites, or NSA hard drives. Not all posts are archived. Google caches have an expiry date. And there is, as far as I know, no way to grab info from Bitcointalk if the info is never quoted by someone else and deleted / edited out. And with Theymos' response rate I don't think any gov agency would have much luck getting him to dish out user data. He's pro anonymity as far as I can tell. Btw. you seem to think that by gov. I implied only US. Obviously that's not the case. In countries like Bangladesh the gov does not have the diplomatic resources to use the same tools that NSA offers to the US or any US allies. They employ low-level white hat / grey hat servicemen to do their online digging work. It is the same with many developing and underdeveloped nations. Besides, I am sure NSA data is accessed in case of national security - NOT detecting / tracking crypto users for political purposes. Information, shared by anyone on this forum is kind of made with the confidence that they can perhaps edit out any unrequired information in the future - hence the existence of the edit button. But Loyce's tool is circumventing that basic forum function that the average user takes for granted. idk guys - this is a big area of grey for me. This is dwelling into the areas of retaining user data, and user privacy - It is a bit uncomfortable for me to endorse it - even though this is great work and can be used to keep the forum clean. But it has a huge potential of misuse and abuse as well. Loyce - maybe you should think this through and make your stance clear. Title: Re: Viewing unedited posts and deleted posts Post by: LoyceV on September 07, 2019, 09:22:12 AM But now let's talk about the bad side. Anything you put on the internet, should be considered public information for the rest of eternity.Your tool is freely available for anyone to use. The very same person I am trying to bust for multi-accounting, is also using information scattered about me on this forum to track my identity and send me threatening messages on my telegram, phone etc. Quote This kind of tool would essentially be a weapon in the hands of such blackmailers and extortioners. If that's the case, you shouldn't have put the information online in the first place.Several phishing sites (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5178198.0) clone all posts on Bitcointalk too. I just do it without trying to steal passwords. Archive.org and Archive.is store many pages too. Quote In our country, our government is banning crypto, so if I posted my information here and if tomorrow some government agency wanted to track me down - then your tool is going to enable them to do that. And possibly land a person in jail for 10 years - just for being associated with crypto. As much as I hate government oppression, it's not my responsibility to follow local laws from any country on earth. If it's illegal to use crypto, and you insist on doing it anyway, all I can say is you should be very careful what you post and ensure your real identity stays hidden. Use encryption to hide yourself :)Now, I'd like to hear your thoughts about these 2 situations. What do you intend to do to avoid / solve such issues? It's not LoyceV's responsibility to solve it. If you post something you shouldn't have - it's your problem. The government doesn't need LoyceV's site, they can just grab the info directly from Bitcointalk, Google cache, archive sites, or NSA hard drives.I don't scrape Investigations (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=227.0), which is the only place on Bitcointalk that allows DOXing. If someone gets DOXed anywhere else, posts can be reported and the user gets banned. If that happens, feel free to contact me to edit one of the archived posts. When I do that, I'll also edit the filename to make it very obvious it was edited by me, and I'll probably create a log here. Until now, I haven't done this. Another thing I've been thinking about is if someone posts something that's not allowed by my webhost. If that would happen, I'll have to edit it too. I'm not sure how Archive.org and the likes handle illegal stuff on their servers. You're glowing.. I'm not sure what that means (https://www.lipstickalley.com/threads/what-does-it-mean-when-someone-says-youre-glowing.617880/)Title: Re: Viewing unedited posts and deleted posts Post by: suchmoon on September 07, 2019, 01:40:35 PM In countries like Bangladesh the gov does not have the diplomatic resources to use the same tools that NSA offers to the US or any US allies. They employ low-level white hat / grey hat servicemen to do their online digging work. It is the same with many developing and underdeveloped nations. Besides, I am sure NSA data is accessed in case of national security - NOT detecting / tracking crypto users for political purposes. You're missing the point. NSA or not NSA, any government agency that is interested in tracking their citizens' involvement in crypto could be doing what LoyceV does and scrape those posts without making an announcement thread here. They could be doing even more, e.g. scrape posts in Investigations. Information, shared by anyone on this forum is kind of made with the confidence that they can perhaps edit out any unrequired information in the future - hence the existence of the edit button. You cannot "edit out" anything from the internet. The edit button is useful to fix spelling errors and such. It's utterly useless for hiding information, which could have been copied by anyone, could have ended in Bitcoinalk backups (and yes, likely to be handed over to law enforcement if theymos gets a subpoena), etc. Title: Re: Viewing unedited posts and deleted posts Post by: eddie13 on September 07, 2019, 02:40:09 PM You're glowing.. I'm not sure what that means (https://www.lipstickalley.com/threads/what-does-it-mean-when-someone-says-youre-glowing.617880/)any government agency that is interested in tracking their citizens' involvement in crypto could be doing what LoyceV does and scrape those posts https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EBVm6cxXYAAtz4u.jpg Title: Re: Viewing unedited posts and deleted posts Post by: suchmoon on September 07, 2019, 03:16:39 PM So the Switzerland thing is just a CIA cover? Makes sense now.
Title: Re: Viewing unedited posts and deleted posts Post by: PrimeNumber7 on September 07, 2019, 07:46:50 PM In our country, our government is banning crypto, so if I posted my information here and if tomorrow some government agency wanted to track me down - then your tool is going to enable them to do that. And possibly land a person in jail for 10 years - just for being associated with crypto. Now, I'd like to hear your thoughts about these 2 situations. What do you intend to do to avoid / solve such issues? There are limitations as to how many tweets can be distributed to entity user per day and per month. The daily number of tweets that can be sent to a third party is large (50,000), but is a small percentage of the total tweets posted every day (500 million). If someone like DPR was posting on twitter instead of bitcointalk, they probably would still have gotten caught, while a HK protestor would probably be safe on twitter, while the HK government (a sockpuppet of the Chinese government) might be investigated similar to how legendster describes if they are posting on bitcointalk. LoyceV is not the one who invented scraping forum posts, nor is he the only one to be actively scraping posts. There are many ways (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_HTML_parsers) to download forum posts via automated means, and it is not difficult to get posts into a DataFrame that can later be analyzed. The the root cause problem is the administration allows too much access to posts. A straightforward solution is to have an hourly rate limit as to how many page views an individual IP address/range can access on an hourly and daily basis that is something above what a *person* would see in the normal course of reading, but well below the necessary amount of page views required to view all posts. The scraping of posts for non-academic use should also be explicitly prohibited by the administration. Title: Re: Viewing unedited posts and deleted posts Post by: LoyceV on September 08, 2019, 09:32:07 AM The the root cause problem is the administration allows too much access to posts. A straightforward solution is to have an hourly rate limit as to how many page views an individual IP address/range can access on an hourly and daily basis that is something above what a *person* would see in the normal course of reading, but well below the necessary amount of page views required to view all posts. The scraping of posts for non-academic use should also be explicitly prohibited by the administration. I'm glad those restrictions aren't in place. That wouldn't stop any government agency to scrape all posts, as they can just use many different servers, but it would make it very difficult to make user-contributions (such as Vod's BPIP.org or my Trust/Merit data).The forum currently allows on average 1 page download per second, and that already means I have to set several seconds delay, to prevent different scrapers from conflicting with each other's data scraping. Title: Re: Viewing unedited posts and deleted posts Post by: PrimeNumber7 on September 09, 2019, 05:02:46 AM The the root cause problem is the administration allows too much access to posts. A straightforward solution is to have an hourly rate limit as to how many page views an individual IP address/range can access on an hourly and daily basis that is something above what a *person* would see in the normal course of reading, but well below the necessary amount of page views required to view all posts. The scraping of posts for non-academic use should also be explicitly prohibited by the administration. I'm glad those restrictions aren't in place. That wouldn't stop any government agency to scrape all posts, as they can just use many different servers, but it would make it very difficult to make user-contributions (such as Vod's BPIP.org or my Trust/Merit data).The forum currently allows on average 1 page download per second, and that already means I have to set several seconds delay, to prevent different scrapers from conflicting with each other's data scraping. I believe merit data is actually published by the administration, along with trust data. This information is less intrusive than information contained in posts. If my above proposal were to be changed to 'thread page view' I understand BPIP would be entirely unaffected. I would encourage you to review the Twitter developer terms (https://developer.twitter.com/en/developer-terms), and the Instagram API TOS (https://www.instagram.com/about/legal/terms/api/). These policy documents prohibit many of the things that are done with bitcointalk information. I would presume the 'average' bitcointalk user to care more about privacy than the 'average' Instagram or Twitter user. From a technical perspective, there is nothing to prevent a government from collecting post information on bitcointalk. However if bitcointalk policies explicitly disallow government law enforcement from collecting information in mass via automation, in general, law enforcement will have trouble using information gained via these means as the basis for a warrant, or as admissible evidence in court. Title: Re: Viewing unedited posts and deleted posts Post by: LoyceV on September 09, 2019, 05:31:21 AM From a technical perspective, there is nothing to prevent a government from collecting post information on bitcointalk. However if bitcointalk policies explicitly disallow government law enforcement from collecting information in mass via automation, in general, law enforcement will have trouble using information gained via these means as the basis for a warrant, or as admissible evidence in court. This makes sense, you should send the suggestion to theymos (or create a topic in Meta).Title: Re: Viewing unedited posts and deleted posts Post by: TECSHARE on September 09, 2019, 06:16:02 AM From a technical perspective, there is nothing to prevent a government from collecting post information on bitcointalk. However if bitcointalk policies explicitly disallow government law enforcement from collecting information in mass via automation, in general, law enforcement will have trouble using information gained via these means as the basis for a warrant, or as admissible evidence in court. This makes sense, you should send the suggestion to theymos (or create a topic in Meta).Unfortunately without an explicit terms of service, this kind of policy is legally meaningless, and Theymos has made it pretty clear in the past he doesn't want to use one. Title: Re: Viewing unedited posts and deleted posts Post by: eddie13 on September 12, 2019, 03:25:07 AM It was a joke.. It doesn't mean I don't still like you LV..
Maybe it serves as a reminder that you all are being monitored.. I may have been an outlaw all my life but i have always strived to be an honest outlaw.. Title: Re: Viewing unedited posts and deleted posts, view per post, per user or per topic Post by: LoyceV on September 30, 2019, 05:11:05 PM Sneak preview: I'm working on a per-topic-view. See http://loyce.club/archive/topics/
And I'm working on a and per-user-view, see http://loyce.club/archive/members/ Title: Re: Viewing unedited posts and deleted posts, view per post, per user or per topic Post by: JeromeTash on October 04, 2019, 11:15:13 PM Hey LoyceV, I would like to appreciate the work you have done to this community.
I just wanted to know whether this tool archives even replies that have been made in a deleted topic or this applies only to directly deleted topics. Title: Re: Viewing unedited posts and deleted posts, view per post, per user or per topic Post by: LoyceV on October 05, 2019, 07:58:02 AM I just wanted to know whether this tool archives even replies that have been made in a deleted topic or this applies only to directly deleted topics. I'm not sure what you're asking me... I archive all post (okay, maybe 99.9% of all posts (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5189156.msg52640088#msg52640088)) within a few seconds. If the topic gets deleted, I keep the archive.I'm still working on improving the per-topic and per-user view. Title: Re: Viewing unedited posts and deleted posts, view per post, per user or per topic Post by: LoyceV on November 06, 2019, 11:42:10 AM My webhost is out of disk space :o
I've opened a ticket and keep local backups of all newly scraped posts so no data will be lost. Once they resolve this, my uploads should start catching up. Update: this was fixed 2 days ago. Title: Re: Viewing unedited posts and deleted posts, view per post, per user or per topic Post by: Timelord2067 on November 18, 2019, 06:10:01 AM Is this post too far back in time? https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3387794.msg35493516#msg35493516
Title: Re: Viewing unedited posts and deleted posts, view per post, per user or per topic Post by: LoyceV on November 18, 2019, 07:19:05 AM Is this post too far back in time? https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3387794.msg35493516#msg35493516 Yes. The oldest post I have is 45589103 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5027267.msg45589103#msg45589103). Back then, I didn't upload the files and now just keep them locally in case someone asks for them.Title: Re: Viewing unedited posts and deleted posts, view per post, per user or per topic Post by: Timelord2067 on November 18, 2019, 04:47:02 PM Is this post too far back in time? https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3387794.msg35493516#msg35493516 Yes. The oldest post I have is 45589103 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5027267.msg45589103#msg45589103). Back then, I didn't upload the files and now just keep them locally in case someone asks for them.I would appreciate it if you PM me that post / thread? Regards, Title: Re: Viewing unedited posts and deleted posts, view per post, per user or per topic Post by: LoyceV on November 18, 2019, 05:48:20 PM I would appreciate it if you PM me that post / thread? I think you misunderstood what I was trying to say: I don't have any posts older than September 2018, and I've only been uploading scraped files since July this year (with some incomplete data mainly at the start).So I don't have the thread you're looking for, and I can't find it on Archive.org either. Sorry :( Title: Re: Viewing unedited posts and deleted posts, view per post, per user or per topic Post by: Timelord2067 on November 20, 2019, 06:14:10 AM I would appreciate it if you PM me that post / thread? I think you misunderstood what I was trying to say: I don't have any posts older than September 2018, and I've only been uploading scraped files since July this year (with some incomplete data mainly at the start).So I don't have the thread you're looking for, and I can't find it on Archive.org either. Sorry :( Yeh, my bad. I haven't read many of the scraped posts, so am a little rusty. Have wrapped up what I was working on (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5202665.0) and got it out there for peer review. Regards, Title: Re: Viewing unedited posts and deleted posts, view per post, per user or per topic Post by: LoyceV on November 20, 2019, 12:30:22 PM I just noticed my webhost's DNS server is gone, and looking further I noticed I haven't uploaded any posts for the past 2.5 days.
Amazingly, my hosting itself works fine :D So, I've switched DNS servers to Namecheap, and I'm currently uploading 23,000 posts. That means the file timestamps will be incorrect, but the data inside the files is still good. Title: Re: Viewing unedited posts and deleted posts, view per post, per user or per topic Post by: KTChampions on November 30, 2019, 12:16:38 PM LoyceV
Did the service work correctly on November 28-29? I see there are edited posts, but they did not get into the archive. The question is quite serious since a scammer with Hero rank can avoid punishment. Title: Re: Viewing unedited posts and deleted posts, view per post, per user or per topic Post by: LoyceV on November 30, 2019, 12:57:10 PM Did the service work correctly on November 28-29? I see there are edited posts, but they did not get into the archive. I have 9995 (http://loyce.club/archive/posts/5319/), 9998 (http://loyce.club/archive/posts/5320/) and 9995 (http://loyce.club/archive/posts/5321/) posts (out of 10000) around these days. That means I missed only 0.04% of all posts, and some of them were probably in topics that aren't publicly accessible.The question is quite serious since a scammer with Hero rank can avoid punishment. I'm currently running an update on members (http://loyce.club/archive/members/) and topics (http://loyce.club/archive/topics/), that should be enough to find back most posts. Can you share links to the posts that you can't find in my archive? Title: Re: Viewing unedited posts and deleted posts, view per post, per user or per topic Post by: KTChampions on November 30, 2019, 01:07:26 PM Can you share links to the posts that you can't find in my archive? https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5183095.msg53207068#msg53207068 and https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5193171.msg53206785#msg53206785 Thank you :) Title: Re: Viewing unedited posts and deleted posts, view per post, per user or per topic Post by: LoyceV on November 30, 2019, 01:15:32 PM https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5183095.msg53207068#msg53207068 I think you must have been looking at the wrong place. The first 4 characters of the msg number are 5320, that means go to http://loyce.club/archive/posts/5320/.and https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5193171.msg53206785#msg53206785 Then, find the posts in that list (use CTRL-F): http://loyce.club/archive/posts/5320/53207068.html and http://loyce.club/archive/posts/5320/53206785.html Title: Re: Viewing unedited posts and deleted posts, view per post, per user or per topic Post by: KTChampions on November 30, 2019, 03:14:31 PM https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5183095.msg53207068#msg53207068 I think you must have been looking at the wrong place. The first 4 characters of the msg number are 5320, that means go to http://loyce.club/archive/posts/5320/.and https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5193171.msg53206785#msg53206785 Then, find the posts in that list (use CTRL-F): http://loyce.club/archive/posts/5320/53207068.html and http://loyce.club/archive/posts/5320/53206785.html Yes you are right. I tried to find these posts here: http://loyce.club/archive/members/18/189726.html Thank you very much for the help :) Title: Re: Viewing unedited posts and deleted posts, view per post, per user or per topic Post by: LoyceV on November 30, 2019, 03:16:52 PM Yes you are right. I tried to find these posts here: http://loyce.club/archive/members/18/189726.html Those pages only get manual updates, and the current update is still running. So you were looking at the right place, I just don't have the time to fix it.Title: Re: Viewing unedited posts and deleted posts, view per post, per user or per topic Post by: LoyceV on December 03, 2019, 07:34:59 PM Today, I slightly moved my netbook, and just touching it was enough to make it crash. Unfortunately, I had to go at that moment, so I couldn't fix it right away.
That means, I haven't archived any posts for between posts 53250266 (http://loyce.club/archive/posts/5325/53250266.html) and 53251174 (http://loyce.club/archive/posts/5325/53251174.html). The gap is just under 1.5 hours. Unfortunately, I can't catch up on those 907 posts Title: Re: Viewing unedited posts and deleted posts, view per post, per user or per topic Post by: johhnyUA on December 05, 2019, 03:59:17 PM Hello, how can i see deleted posts which belongs to specific user?
I wanna try to find really epic joke which was deleted by mods. Thx for answer. Title: Re: Viewing unedited posts and deleted posts, view per post, per user or per topic Post by: LoyceV on December 05, 2019, 06:31:46 PM Hello, how can i see deleted posts which belongs to specific user? Yes. See http://loyce.club/archive/members/It still gets only manual updates, I'm running an update now. This will probably take a few hours. Title: Re: Viewing unedited posts and deleted posts, view per post, per user or per topic Post by: FontSeli on December 23, 2019, 05:39:26 PM Hello, how can i see deleted posts which belongs to specific user? Yes. See http://loyce.club/archive/members/It still gets only manual updates, I'm running an update now. This will probably take a few hours. Hello. I can't use your service. After clicking on the link gives 404 error. Is this a temporary problem? Title: Re: Viewing unedited posts and deleted posts, view per post, per user or per topic Post by: LoyceV on December 23, 2019, 06:40:12 PM Hello. I can't use your service. After clicking on the link gives 404 error. Is this a temporary problem? Yes. I'm still working on restoring my data on another server.I have a temporary fix for this temporary problem: add aws. in front of loyce.club: Code: http://aws.loyce.club/archive/posts/ Once done, archived posts will be available in a matter of seconds (instead of a minute in the old situation). Title: Re: Viewing unedited posts and deleted posts, view per post, per user or per topic Post by: nutildah on December 24, 2019, 05:04:50 AM Hey Loyce, are you aware that BPIP is currently redirecting to your home page? Kind of weird... I know its off-topic here but I thought you should know.
Title: Re: Viewing unedited posts and deleted posts, view per post, per user or per topic Post by: LoyceMobile on December 24, 2019, 06:33:36 AM Hey Loyce, are you aware that BPIP is currently redirecting to your home page? Kind of weird... I know its off-topic here but I thought you should know. I didn't know until you told me. Vod got hit by a HP bug that wiped his drives, guess this is a temporary solution until he restores s backup.Title: Re: Viewing unedited posts and deleted posts, view per post, per user or per topic Post by: FontSeli on December 24, 2019, 11:01:03 AM I have a temporary fix for this temporary problem: add aws. in front of loyce.club: Code: http://aws.loyce.club/archive/posts/ It works! Thank you for your help and for your great services! Title: Re: Viewing unedited posts and deleted posts, view per post, per user or per topic Post by: logfiles on January 11, 2020, 11:35:28 AM Hi LoyceV
I am trying to look for archived posts of a particular user (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2743460) from http://loyce.club/archive/members because his account was nuked but the Profile ID doesn't show up The last update was on 2020-01-04 16:27 but on http://loyce.club/archive/posts the last update was just today, 2020-01-11 12:31. Could it be an irregularity or a technical error preventing an update on the members link. Title: Re: Viewing unedited posts and deleted posts, view per post, per user or per topic Post by: TECSHARE on January 11, 2020, 11:42:49 AM Bump (I don't want to delete my previous bump, because it's merited). I think you keep merit even if a post is deleted? Some one correct me if I am wrong. Title: Re: Viewing unedited posts and deleted posts, view per post, per user or per topic Post by: TryNinja on January 11, 2020, 11:44:29 AM Bump (I don't want to delete my previous bump, because it's merited). I think you keep merit even if a post is deleted? Some one correct me if I am wrong. He probably wants to keep the reference for which post earned him his merit. Otherwise, it says it was for post “Deleted”. Title: Re: Viewing unedited posts and deleted posts, view per post, per user or per topic Post by: LoyceV on January 11, 2020, 12:00:26 PM I am trying to look for archived posts of a particular user (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2743460) from http://loyce.club/archive/members because his account was nuked but the Profile ID doesn't show up I still haven't fully tested this part yet, so updates are only manually started. I'm running an update now, it shouldn't take too long to process a week's worth of posts.The last update was on 2020-01-04 16:27 but on http://loyce.club/archive/posts the last update was just today, 2020-01-11 12:31. Could it be an irregularity or a technical error preventing an update on the members link. Update: see http://loyce.club/archive/members/274/2743460.html I think you keep merit even if a post is deleted? Some one correct me if I am wrong. Correct. And TryNinja is also right, I just don't like my "Merit earned for deleted posts"-counter to go up.Title: Re: Viewing unedited posts and deleted posts, view per post, per user or per topic Post by: LoyceV on January 20, 2020, 01:02:51 PM I've been thinking about expanding my archived posts to all posts that haven't been deleted yet. It would be useful for a case like this (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5219208.msg53655818#msg53655818). It requires scraping a couple million pages, and storing 50+ million posts. I can limit the number of files on the server by storing 10 or 100 posts per page. Would this be useful?
Title: Re: Viewing unedited posts and deleted posts, view per post, per user or per topic Post by: LoyceV on February 02, 2020, 06:05:42 PM I've been thinking about expanding my archived posts to all posts that haven't been deleted yet. An update: I have started this project! Measured in scraping time, it's the biggest project I ever started. In the past 9 days, I've scraped about 4% of all data, so I expect to complete this around August.There's also a chance I'll run out of disk space because of the millions of large posts made by bounty spammers, but I'll deal with that when it happens. Sneak preview: http://loyce.club/archive/oldposts/ How to use:
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If no username is mentioned, it's either "Anonymous" or "random". I forgot those exist when I started scraping, and it's not important enough to start over. Title: Re: Viewing unedited posts and deleted posts, view per post, per user or per topic Post by: LoyceV on February 03, 2020, 05:52:37 PM Something failed in the above scrape, the Wall Observer (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=178336.52540) thread stopped scraping after page 2628. I thought I had the "last page detection" working, but there still seems to be a flaw.
Title: Re: Viewing unedited posts and deleted posts, view per post, per user or per topic Post by: Vod on February 09, 2020, 04:01:57 PM LoyceV, are you saving the raw data, or just converting it?
Title: Re: Viewing unedited posts and deleted posts, view per post, per user or per topic Post by: nutildah on February 09, 2020, 04:06:33 PM I've been thinking about expanding my archived posts to all posts that haven't been deleted yet. It would be useful for a case like this (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5219208.msg53655818#msg53655818). It requires scraping a couple million pages, and storing 50+ million posts. I can limit the number of files on the server by storing 10 or 100 posts per page. Would this be useful? Yes, I'm all for it! Title: Re: Viewing unedited posts and deleted posts, view per post, per user or per topic Post by: LoyceV on February 09, 2020, 07:24:42 PM LoyceV, are you saving the raw data, or just converting it? I'm only saving the raw post (one line from the raw HTML), and my own header like this one (http://loyce.club/archive/oldposts/0/282xx.html#msg28228) (post number, link to post, link to my archive, by username and scraping time).Yes, I'm all for it! It's started already :DTitle: Re: Viewing unedited posts and deleted posts, view per post, per user or per topic Post by: LoyceV on February 18, 2020, 08:34:49 PM Sneak preview: http://loyce.club/archive/oldposts/ I now have the first 6.1 million Bitcointalk posts archived. Data processing took longer than expected, but it's published now. See link above.Title: Re: Viewing unedited posts and deleted posts, view per post, per user or per topic Post by: LoyceV on February 19, 2020, 08:47:48 PM Update: I finally got to work on a topic-view. It'll be published at http://loyce.club/archive/topics/, and it's currently crunching data on 1.9 million posts. I'm downloading the thread titles that I don't have yet, and that part takes a lot of time.
This viewer should make it much easier to find back all posts made in a certain thread. Obviously this is also limited to posts made after I started scraping. Title: Re: UPDATING Viewing unedited/deleted posts (search per post, per user or per topic) Post by: dkbit98 on February 21, 2020, 04:30:48 PM If it is not a secret, how much data space is needed for all that millions of posts?
And is there a way to use some compression? Title: Re: UPDATING Viewing unedited/deleted posts (search per post, per user or per topic) Post by: LoyceV on February 22, 2020, 11:08:03 AM If it is not a secret, how much data space is needed for all that millions of posts? I'm currenly using 54 GB for loyce.club, and store 4.2 million files.Quote And is there a way to use some compression? I mainly store HTML-files, so indeed, it would be great if a webbrowser would just be able to use index.html.gz to largely reduce the disk space consumption, but I just tested it and my browser doesn't get it.Due to my lack of time it took longer than I wanted, but I now added live updates for posts per user and per topic: Viewing unedited/deleted posts
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Title: Re: Viewing unedited posts and deleted posts, view per post, per user or per topic Post by: ~DefaultTrust on February 22, 2020, 01:22:26 PM Sneak preview: http://loyce.club/archive/oldposts/ I now have the first 6.1 million Bitcointalk posts archived. Data processing took longer than expected, but it's published now. See link above.38 million left. How fast does your parsing work? Title: Re: Viewing unedited posts and deleted posts, view per post, per user or per topic Post by: LoyceV on February 22, 2020, 01:52:01 PM How fast does your parsing work? See:I expect to complete this around August. Title: Re: NOW LIVE Viewing unedited/deleted posts (search per post, per user or per topic) Post by: LoyceV on March 02, 2020, 05:16:29 PM How to use it This is an example of how I use it in practice: I copy the topicID (5229466), then type "topics" on my URL-bar. My browser suggests http://loyce.club/archive/topics/, which I select. Then, I paste the topicID, hit Backspace 4 times, type "/", paste the topicID again, type ".html" and hit enter. It takes some getting used to, but in just 5 seconds I have the page I was looking for: http://loyce.club/archive/topics/522/5229466.html.
Title: Re: NOW LIVE Viewing unedited/deleted posts (search per post, per user or per topic) Post by: alani123 on March 05, 2020, 02:10:01 PM I see here that a thread was captured with just the error message for wrong BBcode:
http://loyce.club/archive/posts/5395/53951381.html Any way to include the content in spite of wrong BBcode? Title: Re: NOW LIVE Viewing unedited/deleted posts (search per post, per user or per topic) Post by: LoyceV on March 05, 2020, 05:20:16 PM I see here that a thread was captured with just the error message for wrong BBcode: I don't do BBCode, I only read HTML. This error came from the forum, not from me. I just save the post as it was made before editing.http://loyce.club/archive/posts/5395/53951381.html Any way to include the content in spite of wrong BBcode? Title: Re: NOW LIVE Viewing unedited/deleted posts (search per post, per user or per topic) Post by: hosseinimr93 on March 05, 2020, 10:00:50 PM I see here that a thread was captured with just the error message for wrong BBcode: I don't do BBCode, I only read HTML. This error came from the forum, not from me. I just save the post as it was made before editing.http://loyce.club/archive/posts/5395/53951381.html Any way to include the content in spite of wrong BBcode? Yes, that's an error (maybe a bug) from the forum. That archived post was like the following post. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4337249.0 Quote the post and then click on preview. You will see that the post is shown correctly. But it doesn't work when it is posted. It says "INVALID BBCODE: close of unopened tag in table (1)" Title: Re: NOW LIVE Viewing unedited/deleted posts (search per post, per user or per topic) Post by: alani123 on March 05, 2020, 10:36:30 PM I don't do BBCode, I only read HTML. This error came from the forum, not from me. I just save the post as it was made before editing. I should have guessed this. It must be the easiest way to scrape anyway... Quote the post and then click on preview. You will see that the post is shown correctly. But it doesn't work when it is posted. It says "INVALID BBCODE: close of unopened tag in table (1)" Interesting how you can quote the post to see contents. I know this is a scenario that's too specific but I'll post my two cents anyway. Contents of posts otherwise invisible due including a table with broken tags are accessible to any forum member able to quote the post, but invisible in the eyes of robots. I don't see any utility for any poster to do this to their posts intentionally. If they can edit their threads contents could be replaced with something like a dot and be done with it. But it could be that a few thousands of such posts exist. Google gives out 3100 results when you google ("INVALID BBCODE: close of unopened tag in table" site:bitcointalk.org), some duplicates and some coming from signatures of course. 2550 results if you remove two users that came up with broken sugnatures ("INVALID BBCODE: close of unopened tag in table" site:bitcointalk.org -Gamesbuy -trinaldao) Now, I'm stepping into territory of a sub-case in a sub-case, but if posts with broken bbcode are still unedited and quotable, then their contents could be salvaged. Could that be worth pursuing? Probably not. But strictly speaking it should be done if you'd want to grab everything that's available. Title: Re: NOW LIVE Viewing unedited/deleted posts (search per post, per user or per topic) Post by: LoyceV on March 06, 2020, 07:49:56 AM https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4337249.0 Maybe it hits the 64 kB limit in HTML, the Russian characters take a lot more space that way. I'm not sure if that's the limit though, I've made posts that take 80 kB when scraped.Quote the post and then click on preview. You will see that the post is shown correctly. But it doesn't work when it is posted. It says "INVALID BBCODE: close of unopened tag in table (1)" Interesting how you can quote the post to see contents. I know this is a scenario that's too specific but I'll post my two cents anyway. There are more bug in SMF that cause the preview to show differently than the real post.Quote if posts with broken bbcode are still unedited and quotable, then their contents could be salvaged. Could that be worth pursuing? I only want to archive what the forum shows as public information.Title: Re: Viewing unedited posts and deleted posts, view per post, per user or per topic Post by: LoyceV on March 08, 2020, 10:17:54 AM Update: I now have the first 11 million posts scraped! At the moment, the first 6.1 million are available on loyce.club, processing all data takes approximately 3 days. At the current rate, I'm on schedule to complete archiving all posts around August.
I've been thinking about expanding my archived posts to all posts that haven't been deleted yet. An update: I have started this project! Measured in scraping time, it's the biggest project I ever started. In the past 9 days, I've scraped about 4% of all data, so I expect to complete this around August.There's also a chance I'll run out of disk space because of the millions of large posts made by bounty spammers, but I'll deal with that when it happens. Sneak preview: http://loyce.club/archive/oldposts/ How to use:
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If no username is mentioned, it's either "Anonymous" or "random". I forgot those exist when I started scraping, and it's not important enough to start over. Title: Re: Viewing unedited posts and deleted posts, view per post, per user or per topic Post by: LoyceV on March 14, 2020, 07:38:05 AM Update: I now have the first 11 million posts scraped! It took longer than expected (real life has been very busy lately), but it's done: I now have posts up to April 6, 2015 (http://loyce.club/archive/oldposts/110/110000xx.html#msg11000097) archived.Out of these 11 million first posts, 1,520,880 (13.8%) are Deleted or Off-limits (http://loyce.club/archive/oldposts/0/0xx.html#msg10) (most likely deleted). Title: Re: Viewing unedited posts and deleted posts, view per post, per user or per topic Post by: nutildah on March 24, 2020, 05:03:39 AM Update: I now have the first 11 million posts scraped! It took longer than expected (real life has been very busy lately), but it's done: I now have posts up to April 6, 2015 (http://loyce.club/archive/oldposts/110/110000xx.html#msg11000097) archived.Out of these 11 million first posts, 1,520,880 (13.8%) are Deleted or Off-limits (http://loyce.club/archive/oldposts/0/0xx.html#msg10) (most likely deleted). Hi Loyce, by any chance did you get around to archiving posts after April 2015 and up to where you started at July 2019? I'm looking for a post from July 2018. Thanks. Title: Re: Viewing unedited posts and deleted posts, view per post, per user or per topic Post by: LoyceV on March 24, 2020, 07:20:47 AM I'm looking for a post from July 2018. I started scraping 2 months later (I haven't published those posts online). My older post scraping project scrapes one thread at a time, so if the post was made in a old topic and only deleted recently, I might have it. But that's not very likely.Title: Re: Viewing unedited posts and deleted posts, view per post, per user or per topic Post by: nutildah on March 24, 2020, 07:25:41 AM I'm looking for a post from July 2018. I started scraping 2 months later (I haven't published those posts online). My older post scraping project scrapes one thread at a time, so if the post was made in a old topic and only deleted recently, I might have it. But that's not very likely.That's alright, I managed to find a copy of it elsewhere. Thanks for the info. Title: Re: NOW LIVE Viewing unedited/deleted posts (search per post, per user or per topic) Post by: LoyceV on March 25, 2020, 10:10:39 AM See http://loyce.club/archive/topics/ for posts made in a certain topic (Working!) Notification: On many of those pages, the topic title was missing (due to an error). Updated every 5 minutes. The normal location, http://loyce.club/archive/topics/, Update: done! The normal link works again :) Title: Re: Viewing unedited posts and deleted posts, view per post, per user or per topic Post by: LoyceV on April 01, 2020, 08:14:00 AM Update: I now have the first 11 million posts scraped! Update: Usernames aren't affected without logging in. I'm quite happy with that, as most of my scraping doesn't use an account. Title: Re: NOW LIVE Viewing unedited/deleted posts (search per post, per user or per topic) Post by: cheater detector on April 07, 2020, 10:18:04 AM Hi LoyceV, have you archive this topic? https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5126495.0
You can check if you are not busy Thank you very much Title: Re: NOW LIVE Viewing unedited/deleted posts (search per post, per user or per topic) Post by: LoyceV on April 07, 2020, 11:02:45 AM Hi LoyceV, have you archive this topic? https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5126495.0 Probably, it's part of this:I also have older posts: I've saved (most) unedited posts (6.2 million posts) since September 12, 2018, until the start of this topic. This data has not been added to this topic, and I can't really add it because I tried to remove quotes and that has some bugs. You can request to dig up unedited data when needed. But that's currently stored in large compressed files. Can you tell me what exactly you're looking for? I can probably dig up all posts made in that topic (without quotes and the above mentioned bugs), but it might be easier if you tell me what you're looking for.Title: Re: NOW LIVE Viewing unedited/deleted posts (search per post, per user or per topic) Post by: cheater detector on April 07, 2020, 11:16:41 AM 1. Shiversnow (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=972438) BTC Address: 12ujAKqXCwxFipZ6a8xdpXAo7EoitSGwMd https://i.ibb.co/8gg5W3s/Screenshot-375.png (https://imgbb.com/) 2. Ingoats (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1083582) BTC Address: 12iAFdKUFf2BincSosJt3Ns2x1xSS3okFi https://i.ibb.co/ZS6bxGL/Screenshot-376.png (https://imgbb.com/) I just only need these both post to make sure they're apply in that's campaign. When I use google search I found it, but in the forum I couldn't find it. Title: Re: NOW LIVE Viewing unedited/deleted posts (search per post, per user or per topic) Post by: LoyceV on April 07, 2020, 04:26:48 PM 1. Shiversnow (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=972438) BTC Address: 12ujAKqXCwxFipZ6a8xdpXAo7EoitSGwMd https://i.ibb.co/8gg5W3s/Screenshot-375.png (https://imgbb.com/) 2. Ingoats (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1083582) BTC Address: 12iAFdKUFf2BincSosJt3Ns2x1xSS3okFi https://i.ibb.co/ZS6bxGL/Screenshot-376.png (https://imgbb.com/) I just only need these both post to make sure they're apply in that's campaign. When I use google search I found it, but in the forum I couldn't find it. I found "12ujAKqXCwxFipZ6a8xdpXAo7EoitSGwMd" in only this (unedited) post: Code: Shiversnow I found "12iAFdKUFf2BincSosJt3Ns2x1xSS3okFi" in only this (unedited) post: Code: Ingoats Title: Re: Viewing unedited posts and deleted posts Post by: LoyceV on April 08, 2020, 12:12:49 PM Another thing I've been thinking about is if someone posts something that's not allowed by my webhost. If that would happen, I'll have to edit it too. Well, that's a first: I censored data O0The credit card info sale is not good. (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5238760.0) pointed me at this post: http://loyce.club/archive/posts/5417/54178004.html I didn't check if my webhost allows it, but censored it anyway. Update (April 23, 2020): I received a PM (I'll keep the sender private, so sorry, no credits) about http://loyce.club/archive/posts/5428/54281329.html, which is now censored too. Title: Re: NOW LIVE Viewing unedited/deleted posts (search per post, per user or per topic) Post by: NotATether on April 11, 2020, 03:31:37 PM May I ask why you don't archive post titles? They would be useful while detecting deleted topics made by suspected scammers, I've seen some which only put their price tag in the title and not in their post body.
Title: Re: NOW LIVE Viewing unedited/deleted posts (search per post, per user or per topic) Post by: LoyceV on April 11, 2020, 05:12:43 PM May I ask why you don't archive post titles? It started out as lazyness, and I kept it that way for compatibility.Quote They would be useful while detecting deleted topics made by suspected scammers, I've seen some which only put their price tag in the title and not in their post body. I still have topic titles, see http://loyce.club/archive/topics/516/5167469.html for example. You just don't find it with each post.Title: Re: NOW LIVE Viewing unedited/deleted posts (search per post, per user or per topic) Post by: LoyceV on April 22, 2020, 03:56:22 PM I'm thinking about an upgrade for searching topic histories: it's currently quite difficult to see which posts are deleted. I want to make a new thread (but need some time to do so) to request a topic analysis, after which the result will be a list of all posts in that topic.
In this, I'll highlight:
Title: Re: NOW LIVE Viewing unedited/deleted posts (search per post, per user or per topic) Post by: ZaraCB on April 22, 2020, 05:41:55 PM
There are two types of deleted post. 1. Deleted by moderators 2. Deleted by users. Do you have any plan to differentiate this two types? Title: Re: NOW LIVE Viewing unedited/deleted posts (search per post, per user or per topic) Post by: LoyceV on April 22, 2020, 06:00:20 PM There are two types of deleted post. There's a third: Deleted by the topic starter of a self-moderated topic. I could only get data on the first category by keeping track of modlog (https://bitcointalk.org/modlog.php), but I'm not going to add this feature as it will lead to incomplete data.1. Deleted by moderators 2. Deleted by users. Do you have any plan to differentiate this two types? Title: Re: Viewing unedited posts and deleted posts, view per post, per user or per topic Post by: LoyceV on April 23, 2020, 12:10:39 PM Sneak preview: http://loyce.club/archive/oldposts/ I found a bug (which I'm posting here as a reminder to myself): Posts on the עברי (Hebrew) (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=95.0) board don't show up. Example: this post (http://loyce.club/archive/oldposts/17/17975xx.html#msg1797516) is missing, while it exists (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=172757.msg1797516#msg1797516).How to use:
I'll see if I can add them later. I think it has something to do with the right-to-left writing, even selecting text on that board doesn't work as expected. Update: عربية (Arabic) (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=241.0) has the same problem. The problem doesn't occur with my real-time post scraper. this post (http://loyce.club/archive/posts/5373/53737347.html) for instance is archived just fine. Title: Re: Viewing unedited posts and deleted posts, view per post, per user or per topic Post by: OmegaStarScream on April 27, 2020, 03:16:54 PM I found a bug (which I'm posting here as a reminder to myself): Posts on the עברי (Hebrew) (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=95.0) board don't show up. Example: this post (http://loyce.club/archive/oldposts/17/17975xx.html#msg1797516) is missing, while it exists (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=172757.msg1797516#msg1797516). I'll see if I can add them later. I think it has something to do with the right-to-left writing, even selecting text on that board doesn't work as expected. Update: عربية (Arabic) (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=241.0) has the same problem. I could be wrong but I think that's only valid for the posts that have both latin and arabic/hebrew alphabets. A suggestion... Have you thought about making a browser extension? I think it would be nice if we could access the archived posts directly from the forum's posts instead of having to manually check every post. Title: Re: Viewing unedited posts and deleted posts, view per post, per user or per topic Post by: LoyceV on April 28, 2020, 09:50:36 AM I could be wrong but I think that's only valid for the posts that have both latin and arabic/hebrew alphabets. Maybe. I currently have a few months of scraping to go, after that I'll re-scrape those boards and replace all posts in my archive by the freshly scraped ones. I still have to figure out what exactly I have to change for this.Quote A suggestion... Have you thought about making a browser extension? I think it would be nice if we could access the archived posts directly from the forum's posts instead of having to manually check every post. I'll take your suggestion to [BETA] BPIP Extension - user info add-on / extension for Firefox, Chrome, et al (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5224821.0). I'm not making any browser extensions myself.Title: Re: NOW LIVE Viewing unedited/deleted posts (search per post, per user or per topic) Post by: LoyceV on May 05, 2020, 09:04:27 AM Well, that's a first: I censored data O0 And another one: http://loyce.club/archive/posts/5436/54364367.htmlThe credit card info sale is not good. (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5238760.0) pointed me at this post: http://loyce.club/archive/posts/5417/54178004.html I didn't check if my webhost allows it, but censored it anyway. Update (April 23, 2020): I received a PM (I'll keep the sender private, so sorry, no credits) about http://loyce.club/archive/posts/5428/54281329.html, which is now censored too. Editing out all personal data is too much work, so from now on I'll just delete their entire post. A search on a keyword revealed more: http://loyce.club/archive/posts/5227/52279374.html http://loyce.club/archive/posts/5228/52289140.html http://loyce.club/archive/posts/5229/52299346.html http://loyce.club/archive/posts/5233/52335301.html http://loyce.club/archive/posts/5234/52344210.html http://loyce.club/archive/posts/5235/52352034.html http://loyce.club/archive/posts/5236/52362871.html http://loyce.club/archive/posts/5236/52366040.html http://loyce.club/archive/posts/5276/52763344.html http://loyce.club/archive/posts/5277/52774142.html http://loyce.club/archive/posts/5298/52986923.html http://loyce.club/archive/posts/5299/52997349.html http://loyce.club/archive/posts/5300/53008030.html http://loyce.club/archive/posts/5307/53079833.html http://loyce.club/archive/posts/5395/53954083.html http://loyce.club/archive/posts/5396/53961256.html http://loyce.club/archive/posts/5396/53966487.html http://loyce.club/archive/posts/5397/53974448.html http://loyce.club/archive/posts/5409/54091171.html http://loyce.club/archive/posts/5409/54097161.html http://loyce.club/archive/posts/5410/54103081.html http://loyce.club/archive/posts/5412/54127175.html http://loyce.club/archive/posts/5413/54133577.html http://loyce.club/archive/posts/5414/54140076.html http://loyce.club/archive/posts/5414/54146376.html http://loyce.club/archive/posts/5416/54166566.html http://loyce.club/archive/posts/5417/54173130.html http://loyce.club/archive/posts/5421/54216387.html http://loyce.club/archive/posts/5421/54218258.html http://loyce.club/archive/posts/5422/54223212.html http://loyce.club/archive/posts/5423/54232601.html http://loyce.club/archive/posts/5423/54239967.html http://loyce.club/archive/posts/5426/54265687.html http://loyce.club/archive/posts/5427/54274418.html http://loyce.club/archive/posts/5430/54307758.html http://loyce.club/archive/posts/5431/54314494.html http://loyce.club/archive/posts/5432/54322308.html http://loyce.club/archive/posts/5432/54329704.html They're all deleted from Bitcointalk already. New (27-5-2020): http://loyce.club/archive/posts/5451/54510064.html Title: Re: NOW LIVE Viewing unedited/deleted posts (search per post, per user or per topic) Post by: ChuckBuck on May 17, 2020, 06:07:13 AM Hi LoyceV,
It's me again :D There was an edited post that mentioned me in it. I have not read it to the fullest yet. So I am very curious. Can you help me to search it? If I'm not mistaken, it is in the subject whose ID is 5244041 and #msg54439447. Title: Re: NOW LIVE Viewing unedited/deleted posts (search per post, per user or per topic) Post by: Rikafip on May 17, 2020, 06:37:22 AM Hi LoyceV, Hey Chuck, are you sure that's the correct topic ID? If I am not mistaken, that should be Wolfbet signature topic and from what I can see, that post hasn't been edited. It's me again :D There was an edited post that mentioned me in it. I have not read it to the fullest yet. So I am very curious. Can you help me to search it? If I'm not mistaken, it is in the subject whose ID is 5244041 and #msg54439447. http://loyce.club/archive/posts/5443/54439447.html Title: Re: NOW LIVE Viewing unedited/deleted posts (search per post, per user or per topic) Post by: ChuckBuck on May 17, 2020, 06:45:02 AM Hey Chuck, are you sure that's the correct topic ID? If I am not mistaken, that should be Wolfbet signature topic and this post The ID of topic is exactly. That means the article I need to read has been deleted :D I haven't read that post, but I know it mentioned me because I received a notification from the bot. Some first characters were quoted by the bot and I found that it mentioned me. I also know that it is made by Zwei. Can you help me find the deleted post?http://loyce.club/archive/posts/5443/54439447.html Title: Re: NOW LIVE Viewing unedited/deleted posts (search per post, per user or per topic) Post by: Rikafip on May 17, 2020, 06:47:24 AM Hey Chuck, are you sure that's the correct topic ID? If I am not mistaken, that should be Wolfbet signature topic and this post The ID of topic is exactly. That means the article I need to read has been deleted :D I haven't read that post, but I know it mentioned me because I received a notification from the bot. Some first characters were quoted by the bot and I found that it mentioned me. I also know that it is made by Zwei. Can you help me find the deleted post?http://loyce.club/archive/posts/5443/54439447.html Title: Re: NOW LIVE Viewing unedited/deleted posts (search per post, per user or per topic) Post by: LoyceV on May 17, 2020, 06:50:01 AM Can you help me find the deleted post? Just follow the instructions, it should get you all unedited (or deleted) posts made by Zwei (http://loyce.club/archive/members/200/2004043.html) and all unedited (or deleted) posts in [OPEN] WOLF.BET Signature Campaign - Hero/Legendary - Up to 0.008 BTC/week! (http://loyce.club/archive/topics/524/5244041.html). The post should be in there.Title: Re: NOW LIVE Viewing unedited/deleted posts (search per post, per user or per topic) Post by: ChuckBuck on May 17, 2020, 12:53:25 PM Post is in the link I just gave you, and there were no edits of that post, that I can see. Maybe you meant some other post and wrote wrong message ID? I also thought I was wrong somewhere :DJust follow the instructions, it should get you all unedited (or deleted) posts made by Zwei (http://loyce.club/archive/members/200/2004043.html) and all unedited (or deleted) posts in [OPEN] WOLF.BET Signature Campaign - Hero/Legendary - Up to 0.008 BTC/week! (http://loyce.club/archive/topics/524/5244041.html). The post should be in there. I have found it following your instructions. From the list you gave above, I tried reading each post behind my post. But there are no post that contain content that I need :D The bot announced, it always works right whenever someone quotes my post or mentions me. But now I can not find. Maybe it's from my side ::) Anyway, just a curiosity, I think I should ignore it :D Thank you very much!Title: Re: NOW LIVE Viewing unedited/deleted posts (search per post, per user or per topic) Post by: LoyceV on May 23, 2020, 09:31:36 AM Update: you can now use TryNinja's site to search most posts created since June 2019:
- Since I'm already scraping and saving posts, I'm also providing a website that lets you easily search for posts with filters (author, text, in X topic and date range) and share the scraped post so you can send to someone (this original post (https://posts.ninjastic.space/post/54441882), for example) or even archive it (https://archive.is/). I cleaned the database to make some changes and release the bot, so posts just go as far as May 14th. But I have enough hosting and space for at least 1 year of posts (and then I can renew), so you may be able to use it better in the future. Edit: now with +2,5 million old posts from loyce.club You can use it here: https://posts.ninjastic.space Title: Re: NOW LIVE Viewing unedited/deleted posts (search per post, per user or per topic) Post by: ChuckBuck on June 03, 2020, 09:47:52 AM I have a small question here, hope you can answer it :D I have a habit of publishing my post early, then making necessary edits, such as updating information and data. This process can be 1 time or 2 times, it can be 3 times or more :D So, are they all stored? Or just the original post is archived? I think it would be interesting if all the edits were saved :D Have you thought about it yet?
Title: Re: NOW LIVE Viewing unedited/deleted posts (search per post, per user or per topic) Post by: LoyceV on June 03, 2020, 09:55:03 AM I have a small question here, hope you can answer it :D I have a habit of publishing my post early, then making necessary edits, such as updating information and data. This process can be 1 time or 2 times, it can be 3 times or more. So, are they all stored? Or just the original post is archived? I only archive the original unedited post.Quote I think it would be interesting if all the edits were saved :D Have you thought about it yet? There's no way for me to know which posts have been edited. I'd have to check all 50 million posts again.Title: Re: NOW LIVE Viewing unedited/deleted posts (search per post, per user or per topic) Post by: ChuckBuck on June 03, 2020, 10:06:25 AM I only archive the original unedited post. Ahaa got it, it means you start browsing through all the new posts posted on this forum, then archive it. There's no way for me to know which posts have been edited. I'd have to check all 50 million posts again. An impossible idea if I want to browse 50 million posts. There is no way to browse through them within seconds :D I had a wrong thought here. Yesterday, I was on another forum, when I edited the post, the post ID was changed. But I just checked, it doesn't happen on this forum :D We can skip my idea now :DTitle: Re: 35M posts! View unedited/deleted posts (search per post, per user or per topic) Post by: LoyceV on June 05, 2020, 07:24:27 PM Millions more posts added:
I have now archived the first 35.5 million posts, all available online. This included posts made in topics created until April 24, 2018 and currently fills 43 GB. Example: my first post (http://loyce.club/archive/oldposts/105/105890xx.html#msg10589007)! See this quote on how to use it: Sneak preview: http://loyce.club/archive/oldposts/ How to use:
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If no username is mentioned, it's either "Anonymous" or "random". I forgot those exist when I started scraping, and it's not important enough to start over. This bug is not fixed yet: I found a bug (which I'm posting here as a reminder to myself): Posts on the עברי (Hebrew) (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=95.0) board don't show up. Example: this post (http://loyce.club/archive/oldposts/17/17975xx.html#msg1797516) is missing, while it exists (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=172757.msg1797516#msg1797516). I'll re-scrape these boards after finishing scraping all posts.I'll see if I can add them later. I think it has something to do with the right-to-left writing, even selecting text on that board doesn't work as expected. Update: عربية (Arabic) (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=241.0) has the same problem. Todo: When I have the time, I'll create something to classify all posts in a requested topic as "unedited", "deleted and archived (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5167469.0)", "edited within 10 minutes" or "edited after 10 minutes". But that will only be for one topic at a time, you can't easily check all posts. Another Todo: I should create this per user, that could prove very useful. Deleting a post would make that post stand out more!Title: Re: NOW LIVE Viewing unedited/deleted posts (search per post, per user or per topic) Post by: Vod on June 05, 2020, 09:48:44 PM There's no way for me to know which posts have been edited. I'd have to check all 50 million posts again. There are only 100,000 active users. Don't need to recheck posts made by inactive or banned users. Title: Re: NOW LIVE Viewing unedited/deleted posts (search per post, per user or per topic) Post by: LoyceV on June 06, 2020, 07:21:32 AM There are only 100,000 active users. Don't need to recheck posts made by inactive or banned users. That could actually work, but it's still a lot of scraping to do. I won't do it, even if the average user has only 200 posts, that means scraping a million pages on a regular basis. With 5 seconds delay, it takes 2 months to find changed posts.Considering how much I scrape already, I don't think this is worth it. Title: Re: 35M posts! View unedited/deleted posts (search per post, per user or per topic) Post by: LoyceV on June 12, 2020, 11:40:48 AM Viewing unedited/deleted posts Question: would it be useful to add links from all archived posts to the other categories (and the other way around)? I can quite easily update the "members" and "topics" category, but updating the "posts" will be more work.
Title: Re: 35M posts! View unedited/deleted posts (search per post, per user or per topic) Post by: LoyceV on June 21, 2020, 07:31:26 AM Yesterday, I created LoyceV's Topic Details: highlight deleted and edited posts (forum wide) (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5256854.0):
Short version: (click the link for the full version)Get a topicID you want to see, for instance 5145594 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5145594.0). Insert the topicID into the following link and post it on any public board on Bitcointalk: http://loyce.club/archive/details/topic_5145594.html Wait a bit, then click the link! Title: Re: 35M posts! View unedited/deleted posts (search per post, per user or per topic) Post by: TheQuin on July 25, 2020, 04:13:12 AM Thanks for providing this service. It saved me a lot of time rewriting a post in a thread that got trashed yesterday.
Title: Re: 35M posts! View unedited/deleted posts (search per post, per user or per topic) Post by: LoyceV on July 25, 2020, 07:24:08 AM It saved me a lot of time rewriting a post in a thread that got trashed yesterday. I even Merited that post. I did report the topic (it was on the wrong board and OP was begging), but it did have good posts. See https://loyce.club/archive/details/topic_5264143.htmlYou may have been able to recover your post from drafts (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=drafts) too. Title: Re: 35M posts! View unedited/deleted posts (search per post, per user or per topic) Post by: TheQuin on July 26, 2020, 05:48:34 AM (it was on the wrong board and OP was begging) I didn't think about the begging angle. That explains why it was trashed rather than moved. You may have been able to recover your post from drafts (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=drafts) too. I didn't realize they were saved for 7 days. Thanks for the tip. Title: Re: 35M posts! View unedited/deleted posts (search per post, per user or per topic) Post by: LoyceV on July 26, 2020, 10:49:59 AM I didn't realize they were saved for 7 days. Thanks for the tip. A warning though: if you post/preview a lot, you'll reach 100 drafts within a day (and the older drafts are lost).Title: Re: Viewing unedited posts and deleted posts Post by: LoyceV on August 07, 2020, 07:27:12 AM Well, that's a first: I censored data O0 I censored 2 posts because of accidental doxing (and quoting this):https://loyce.club/archive/posts/5494/54944593.html https://loyce.club/archive/posts/5494/54944843.html I'm just posting it here for full disclosure. Title: Re: 35M posts! View unedited/deleted posts (search per post, per user or per topic) Post by: LoyceV on August 12, 2020, 08:53:33 AM Update:
I finished scraping all oldposts (https://loyce.club/archive/oldposts/). The last post archived as "oldpost" is Post 53360099 (https://loyce.club/archive/oldposts/533/533600xx.html#msg53360099), which was created December 16, 2019 and archived July 9, 2020. I won't update this archive anymore. I still want to add those posts to my "per topic" and "per member" lists, but I need to find some time for that. This "oldposts (https://loyce.club/archive/oldposts/)" archive takes 72 GB on the server. My real time posts (https://loyce.club/archive/posts/) take 14 GB. I don't really want to break existing hyperlinks to individual archived posts, but some day I may have to convert them into 100 posts per page too (that reduces disk usage a bit). I currently have over 3 million individual posts stored. I've fixed this bug: I found a bug (which I'm posting here as a reminder to myself): Posts on the עברי (Hebrew) (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=95.0) board don't show up. Example: this post (http://loyce.club/archive/oldposts/17/17975xx.html#msg1797516) is missing, while it exists (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=172757.msg1797516#msg1797516). I'll re-scrape these boards after finishing scraping all posts.I'll see if I can add them later. I think it has something to do with the right-to-left writing, even selecting text on that board doesn't work as expected. Update: عربية (Arabic) (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=241.0) has the same problem. Title: Re: 53M posts! View unedited/deleted posts (search per post, per user or per topic) Post by: Aveatrex on August 20, 2020, 08:55:49 PM Hey @LoyceV
I'm currently making the chrome extension and reached the part where I need to make an XMLHTTP request to get the html of the original post from your website; I get an error: Quote Access to XMLHttpRequest at 'https://loyce.club/archive/posts/5221/52217187.html' from origin 'https://bitcointalk.org' has been blocked by CORS policy: No 'Access-Control-Allow-Origin' header is present on the requested resource. It seems like you are blocking requests, is there a specific reason why? I'm able to bypass this by using a CORS proxy, but since it's your website I would like to ask you first. Another question, even by bypassing this, it's unable to get the theymos.css file for some reason it's trying to get it at "https://bitcointalk.org/theymos.css", can you give me this css file so I can include it manually in the extension? Edit:Didn't see suchmoon's post in the first page, was able to include the theymos.css file manually thanks to him. Title: Re: 53M posts! View unedited/deleted posts (search per post, per user or per topic) Post by: TryNinja on August 20, 2020, 08:59:33 PM It seems like you are blocking requests, is there a specific reason why? I'm able to bypass this by using a CORS proxy, but since it's your website I would like to ask you first. It's just the default behavior. I asked for the same thing before (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5102296.msg54755241#msg54755241) and he included the forum in the allowed CORS websites (but just for the page I needed).Another question, even by bypassing this, it's unable to get the theymos.css file for some reason it's trying to get it at "https://bitcointalk.org/theymos.css", can you give me this css file so I can include it manually in the extension? https://loyce.club/archive/posts/theymos.cssIt's loaded to his website with "../theymos.css", so it's using the relative path from the current website (bitcointalk). Just include it in the extension or replace the string to use the full path I posted above. Title: Re: 53M posts! View unedited/deleted posts (search per post, per user or per topic) Post by: Aveatrex on August 20, 2020, 09:20:31 PM It seems like you are blocking requests, is there a specific reason why? I'm able to bypass this by using a CORS proxy, but since it's your website I would like to ask you first. It's just the default behavior. I asked for the same thing before (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5102296.msg54755241#msg54755241) and he included the forum in the allowed CORS websites (but just for the page I needed).Then from my understanding LoyceV will have to add the entire forum host "https://bitcointalk.org/" to the allowed CORS websites for my extension to work. Hm, let's see what he says about that. It's totally possible to bypass it by using a CORS proxy like https://cors-anywhere.herokuapp.com/ (https://cors-anywhere.herokuapp.com/); you make a request to 'https://cors-anywhere.herokuapp.com/https://loyce.club/archive/posts/5190/51902990.html' instead of requesting directly "https://loyce.club/archive/posts/5190/51902990.html" and it works like a charm. Edit: Saw on your old post that it's the solution you are now using. What did you use to setup your proxy server? It's loaded to his website with "../theymos.css", so it's using the relative path from the current website (bitcointalk). Just include it in the extension or replace the string to use the full path I posted above. Yea that was the problem thanks, I included theymos.css directly and it works now. Title: Re: 53M posts! View unedited/deleted posts (search per post, per user or per topic) Post by: LoyceV on August 21, 2020, 09:46:00 AM Then from my understanding LoyceV will have to add the entire forum host "https://bitcointalk.org/" to the allowed CORS websites for my extension to work. Hm, let's see what he says about that. This is what I said last time:I have no idea what any of this means O0 I currently have this in apache2.conf:Code: # Code from suchmoon, added July 8, 2020. See https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5102296.msg54755930#msg54755930 Will this work (I haven't changed it yet)? Code: <Directory /var/www/> Quote instead of requesting directly "https://loyce.club/archive/posts/5190/51902990.html" For what it's worth: I hadn't figured out the right CSS yet for posts at that time. It gets better later :)Title: Re: 53M posts! View unedited/deleted posts (search per post, per user or per topic) Post by: Aveatrex on August 21, 2020, 03:34:55 PM I currently have this in apache2.conf: Code: # Code from suchmoon, added July 8, 2020. See https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5102296.msg54755930#msg54755930 From my understanding, this only allows requests to the latestversion.txt file. Since I'm doing requests to /archives/posts/*/* it doesn't work for me. Will this work (I haven't changed it yet)? This *should* work because /var/www normally contains all hosted files and therefore should allow requests to all them if they are coming from bitcointalk.org. Let's give it a try :)Code: <Directory /var/www/> Title: Re: 53M posts! View unedited/deleted posts (search per post, per user or per topic) Post by: LoyceV on August 21, 2020, 04:55:43 PM Let's give it a try :) Done, test it please.Title: Re: 53M posts! View unedited/deleted posts (search per post, per user or per topic) Post by: Aveatrex on August 21, 2020, 05:32:03 PM Works! Thanks :D Here's a quick sneak peek: https://i.postimg.cc/wvX2F5hQ/sneakp.gif Another question (sorry ;D), sometimes I get an 404 error when requesting for example this post (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5102296.msg49430842#msg49430842), my best guess is that posts prior to a certain certain haven't been archived, is that it? Title: Re: 53M posts! View unedited/deleted posts (search per post, per user or per topic) Post by: LoyceV on August 21, 2020, 05:58:05 PM sometimes I get an 404 error when requesting for example this post (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5102296.msg49430842#msg49430842), my best guess is that posts prior to a certain certain haven't been archived, is that it? You may want to read my OP ;) That post can be found here (https://loyce.club/archive/oldposts/494/494308xx.html#msg49430842). It was scraped a lot later though, so it's not "unedited".Title: Re: 53M posts! View unedited/deleted posts (search per post, per user or per topic) Post by: Aveatrex on August 21, 2020, 06:13:36 PM You may want to read my OP ;) That post can be found here (https://loyce.club/archive/oldposts/494/494308xx.html#msg49430842). It was scraped a lot later though, so it's not "unedited". I see. I'll just make it display "Original post not available" if I get a 404 error from your website.Thank you for taking the time to respond to my questions! Title: Re: 53M posts! View unedited/deleted posts (search per post, per user or per topic) Post by: Timelord2067 on September 05, 2020, 11:11:34 PM Hopefully I'm in he right thread, this page: https://loyce.club/archive/members/13/131361.html only shows the initial post, not any deletions, edits etc Is there another page that shows this, or has this page not updated?
Title: Re: 53M posts! View unedited/deleted posts (search per post, per user or per topic) Post by: LoyceV on September 06, 2020, 06:23:49 AM Is there another page that shows this See LoyceV's Topic Details: highlight deleted and edited posts (forum wide) (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5256854):I think it would be super useful if we could see which posts/replies of a user profile have been deleted by having it highlighted on the user page also... I agree, but:My initial plan was to make this for a user's post history too, but it was much more work than anticipated, so I skipped that. TryNinja's site can help searching this data: The new ninjastic.space (http://ninjastic.space) website is out! Remade from scratch. - Unedited/archived post: https://ninjastic.space/post/55139442 - Unedited/archived posts on specific topic: https://ninjastic.space/topic/5273824 - Unedited/archived posts by address: https://ninjastic.space/address/1NinjabXd5znM5zgTcmxDVzH4w3nbaY16L Title: Re: 53M posts! View unedited/deleted posts (search per post, per user or per topic) Post by: Aveatrex on September 19, 2020, 08:42:29 PM Hey LoyceV
Have you ever considered scraping the bbcode of posts instead of the html? Or at least scrape both of them? This would solve some problems, one of them is determining accuratly if an image changed in a post or not This idea might be naive but let me know your thoughts eitherway Title: Re: 53M posts! View unedited/deleted posts (search per post, per user or per topic) Post by: LoyceV on September 20, 2020, 08:55:28 AM Have you ever considered scraping the bbcode of posts instead of the html? Or at least scrape both of them? I scrape posts as a guest, without logging in. That means I only see HTML, there is no BBCode.The only way to see BBCode of a post would be by clicking "edit" (for my own posts) or "quote" for posts from other users. And that's only possible if the topic isn't locked. I guess the forum database stores posts as BBCode, but that's above my pay grade. Title: Re: 53M posts! View unedited/deleted posts (search per post, per user or per topic) Post by: Aveatrex on September 20, 2020, 02:56:42 PM I scrape posts as a guest, without logging in. That means I only see HTML, there is no BBCode. The only way to see BBCode of a post would be by clicking "edit" (for my own posts) or "quote" for posts from other users. And that's only possible if the topic isn't locked. I guess the forum database stores posts as BBCode, but that's above my pay grade. Well one solution is first making a dummy bitcointalk account; to get a post quote that's the template: Code: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=post;quote=POST_NUMBER;topic=TOPIC_NUMBER;sesc=SESSION_TOKEN Ofcourse since it's a dummy account it won't have posts so clicking "edit" (for my own posts) isn't neededIt seems like a decent amount of work and effort is needed but now that I think of it does the benefits justify it? I don't know Title: Re: 53M posts! View unedited/deleted posts (search per post, per user or per topic) Post by: LoyceV on September 20, 2020, 03:15:20 PM It seems like a decent amount of work and effort is needed but now that I think of it does the benefits justify it? No :P I have enough to do already, but worse: I'd have to check every post one by one, instead of downloading several posts at once from recent (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=recent).Title: Re: 53M posts! View unedited/deleted posts (search per post, per user or per topic) Post by: LoyceV on October 09, 2020, 09:54:10 AM Bump!
New: Search Tool (https://loyce.club/archive/posts/) :D Title: Re: 53M posts! View unedited/deleted posts (search per post, per user or per topic) Post by: BlackHatCoiner on October 11, 2020, 07:50:55 AM The search tool looks great, good job @bitmover (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1554927)!
I would just like to report a bug, once I search for satoshi (https://loyce.club/archive/members/0/3.html) it returns me error 404. On other members it works fine. Title: Re: 53M posts! View unedited/deleted posts (search per post, per user or per topic) Post by: LoyceV on October 11, 2020, 09:24:32 AM I would just like to report a bug, once I search for satoshi (https://loyce.club/archive/members/0/3.html) it returns me error 404. On other members it works fine. It's not really a bug but I'll fix it anyway: the members lists only include users who posted since I started this thread (in July last year). Satoshi's posts are part of my "oldposts" archive, which can be found by searching for older msgIDs, but not yet by topicID or userID. I'm working on adding this, but processing the data it's going to take a while.Title: Re: 53M posts! View unedited/deleted posts (search per post, per user or per topic) Post by: BlackHatCoiner on October 11, 2020, 10:01:43 AM It's not really a bug but I'll fix it anyway: the members lists only include users who posted since I started this thread (in July last year). Satoshi's posts are part of my "oldposts" archive, which can be found by searching for older msgIDs, but not yet by topicID or userID. I'm working on adding this, but processing the data it's going to take a while. How exactly are you processing the data? Do you have a vps opened 24/7 that tries to find all posts? Like saving for every x,y: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=X.msgY Title: Re: 53M posts! View unedited/deleted posts (search per post, per user or per topic) Post by: LoyceV on October 11, 2020, 01:21:11 PM How exactly are you processing the data? I have the data already (example (https://loyce.club/archive/oldposts/0/0xx.html#msg28)), but it's not the most convenient format to create a list by userID and topicID. I have 12 (15? GB compressed files, it's too much to extract them all at once, and I still don't use a database. It'll work, but it takes a while. That's okay, because this is a one-time thing.Quote Do you have a vps opened 24/7 that tries to find all posts? Yes, I use recent posts (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=recent) to get new posts.It's currently out of CPU credits (https://docs.aws.amazon.com/AWSEC2/latest/UserGuide/burstable-credits-baseline-concepts.html), so it got like 10 times slower. Quote Like saving for every x,y: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=X.msgY For the older posts, I downloaded all topics. There's no need to download post by post, each page has up to 20 posts.Title: Re: 53M posts! View unedited/deleted posts (search per post, per user or per topic) Post by: GazetaBitcoin on October 12, 2020, 06:34:02 AM Bump! New: Search Tool (https://loyce.club/archive/posts/) :D Hello LoyceV and bitmover! This is a huge change for a better user friendliness of the site as a whole and of the search for deleted/edited posts in particular. Great job! I have to say that the old way of searching for posts, topics and user IDs was a bit difficult for the users which did not have too much experience in computers, thus this update is very helpful. Not just for the users with limited experience, but also for the experienced ones, as the new interface makes things way more simpler and faster. Considering the change, LoyceV, do you think this part of the OP should be updated too? I'm asking because the old way of searching is not working anymore. Now you have to insert the full number of message ID/topic ID/user ID. How to use it
Title: Re: 53M posts! View unedited/deleted posts (search per post, per user or per topic) Post by: LoyceV on October 12, 2020, 08:09:12 AM Considering the change, LoyceV, do you think this part of the OP should be updated too? I'm asking because the old way of searching is not working anymore. The old description still works too, but I should update it anyway. I was waiting until I'm done with some other updates.I do miss the long list of directory names for instance, so I should add that again to easily find the latest post. Title: Re: 53M posts! View unedited/deleted posts (search per post, per user or per topic) Post by: GazetaBitcoin on October 12, 2020, 09:00:12 AM Uhm... I tried today to enter a truncated user ID in the new search form and it didn't work... I chose an ID and I selected only first four digits (out of 8 or how many they were) and the result was someone else: the user which had the ID made from those exactly 4 digits... So I wasn't redirected to the long list of directory names. I don't know how you got there, but this is what happened on my side... ???
Title: Re: 53M posts! View unedited/deleted posts (search per post, per user or per topic) Post by: LoyceV on October 12, 2020, 09:46:37 AM Uhm... I tried today to enter a truncated user ID in the new search form and it didn't work... I chose an ID and I selected only first four digits (out of 8 or how many they were) and the result was someone else: the user which had the ID made from those exactly 4 digits... That's the expected result :)Quote So I wasn't redirected to the long list of directory names. It's currently not possible because I placed the search form in index.html in that directory.Title: Re: 53M posts! View unedited/deleted posts (search per post, per user or per topic) Post by: GazetaBitcoin on October 12, 2020, 10:19:45 AM Oh I see now, thank you for the explanation. Everything's clear.
Title: Re: Viewing unedited posts and deleted posts Post by: LoyceV on November 25, 2020, 09:06:38 AM Well, that's a first: I censored data O0 I censored 2 posts because of accidental doxing (and quoting this):~ I'm just posting it here for full disclosure. https://loyce.club/archive/posts/5558/55580095.html https://loyce.club/archive/posts/5558/55580137.html https://loyce.club/archive/posts/5558/55580345.html Not cool :( Title: Re: 53M posts! View unedited/deleted posts (search per post, per user or per topic) Post by: LoyceV on December 08, 2020, 09:23:37 AM More censoring:
https://loyce.club/archive/posts/5577/55778296.html Title: Post missing from the Loyce.Club archive Post by: nullius on April 10, 2021, 10:32:35 AM The below-quoted post is an instance of nutildah telling a clear-cut, easily provable lie couched in the form of a rhetorical question, and using that lie to smear my reputation.
The post is missing from Loyce.Club: Archive of Loyce.Club 404 error (https://archive.is/w9Iyx), archive of Loyce.Club topic list which does not show this post (https://archive.is/8gj5w). The post is available from Ninjastic.Space (https://ninjastic.space/post/56749635) (archive of Ninjastic archive of post (https://archive.is/myRaS); archive of Ninjastic archive of the topic (https://archive.is/wZthO)). I have not (yet?) collated the list with other available records to ascertain if any other posts are missing. Nullius - you deleted 23 of ibminers posts? (I know the last 2 are mine). You've decided to turn right into cryptohunter, apparently. Your first posts on the forum provided an injection of knowledge relevant to the main subjects of the forum, but then you became completely obsessed with starting witch hunts against everybody who had crossed you in the past. What happened? For the record: I did not delete any of ibminer’s posts from that topic. I was manually fending off an apparent spambot attack by suchmoon (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=703657.msg56750172#msg56750172), who reposted identical content 21 times within 2 hours; she sometimes reposted within seconds after I deleted it, so I rather doubt that that was done manually. In another topic that nutildah follows, I was contemporaneously counting deletions (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5293050.msg56748962#msg56748962). The count of identical posts can be easily verified in the Ninjastic topic archive (https://archive.is/wZthO): Ctrl-F for the phrase, "Awww, nullius has been triggered" (my browser says “1 of 21 matches”). nutildah posted the above right after suchmoon stopped using spammer tactics to attempt forcing her post; either nutildah must have been high as a kite (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5303539.msg56123198#msg56123198) to make the above accusation, or he must have been intentionally lying. Of course, I myself deleted nutildah’s post; but I never want for such evidence to be memory-holed. Now, I must ask: What happened to post ID 56749635 in the Loyce.Club archive? Was it eaten by a bug, or was that post intentionally excluded for some reason? —If this is a bug, how many other posts may be affected? Either way, it is an important question. Many forum users rely on the Loyce.Club archive for evidence of facts in controversy. Ever wanted to see who's lying when a post has been edited or deleted? I may be able to help! Aside: When I use self-mod powers to delete posts, I habitually save quotes of them. If you play stupid games, then you will win stupid prizes. Edit: Archive of this post. (https://archive.is/ZpWDW#selection-11297.0-11527.145) Title: Re: 53M posts! View unedited/deleted posts (search per post, per user or per topic) Post by: LoyceV on April 10, 2021, 07:19:39 PM Now, I must ask: What happened to post ID 56749635 in the Loyce.Club archive? Was it eaten by a bug, or was that post intentionally excluded for some reason? I can assure you this is unintentional. Any censoring I've done, is highlighted in this topic, and in those cases I've edited my archive instead of removing it.It looks like AWS couldn't download files for a few minutes, I'm missing 19 posts around that time: Code: -rw-rw-r-- 1 loyce loyce 1424 Apr 10 06:22 56749610.html I just checked loyce.club/archive/posts/5233/ (http://loyce.club/archive/posts/5233/): it shows 9994 files. That means my scraper missed 6 posts, or 0.06%. This might have been caused by burst posting (faster than my scraper can handle), or those 6 posts could be in Investigation or some other hidden board that normal users can't access. If this is a bug, how many other posts may be affected? I can't tell exactly, I don't archive posts in Investigations and hidden (Mod/VIP) boards.Starting at post 54000000, I don't have those archived: Code: 54000055 That's 0.17%, and I'm mostly missing the newer posts. Since April 6, I have multiple "leftover" tmp-files per day, which indicates something failed. I was never completely satisfied with the way my script handles scraping, but now it's just terrible. If the kids let me, I'll try to find the cause tomorrow. Quote Either way, it is an important question. Many forum users rely on the Loyce.Club archive for evidence of facts in controversy. I've considered setting up a second VPS, but don't want to double my load on Bitcointalk. Setting it up to only start scraping if my regular archiving fails would solve this, but considering the few posts I missed, I never created this.Thanks for pointing this out! Title: Re: 53M posts! View unedited/deleted posts (search per post, per user or per topic) Post by: LoyceV on April 10, 2021, 07:20:01 PM (list continued from last post)
Code: 56002076 Title: Re: 53M posts! View unedited/deleted posts (search per post, per user or per topic) Post by: nullius on April 12, 2021, 12:53:46 AM Now, I must ask: What happened to post ID 56749635 in the Loyce.Club archive? Was it eaten by a bug, or was that post intentionally excluded for some reason? I can assure you this is unintentional. Any censoring I've done, is highlighted in this topic, and in those cases I've edited my archive instead of removing it.[...data...] [...more data...] Thanks for the detailed explanation. Such attentiveness to archival integrity is encouraging, as is your willingness to answer such questions with data. It looks like AWS couldn't download files for a few minutes, [...] Well, it seems that Jeffy-boy can’t afford a good computer. I think that if he likes to eat, he will soon need to make his little shop accept Bitcoin. :D Diverging from my prior question, and not thereto relevant—whilst I am on this topic, I have a general suggestion that will surprise nobody. Cryptographic timestamps would not assure the completeness of your archive, and would not guarantee the authenticity of archived posts. However, that would assure that items in your archive are not modified after you first store them—not by you, and not by any malicious hackers who may potentially compromise your server. It is quite feasible! Peter Todd, the creator of OpenTimestamps, timestamped the whole Internet Archive (!) without expending too many resources: How OpenTimestamps 'Carbon Dated' (almost) The Entire Internet With One Bitcoin Transaction Peter Todd May 25, 2017 [...] But is that copy the right copy? OpenTimestamps (https://opentimestamps.org/) helps answer that question by cryptographically proving data existed in the past, long before an attacker would have had an opportunity or reason to forge or modify that data. The OpenTimestamps team has timestamped every item in the Internet Archive - about 750,000,000 files in total... [...] The Internet Archive collection is massive, dozens of petabytes in size. It’s so big that when Wayback Machine Director Mark Graham learned that we had timestamped the Internet Archive, he sent me an email asking: Quote How are you able to do anything with “all” of the Internet Archive? :-) But beware the evidentiary limitations. The article briefly explains what OTS can and cannot prove; Peter Todd’s original announcement of OTS (https://petertodd.org/2016/opentimestamps-announcement#what-can-and-cant-timestamps-prove) explains better. Evidence Authenticity Quote I found a two-year-old snapshot of the defendant’s website on a public archiving service, but is it authentic? A timestamp on a website snapshot doesn’t necessarily mean the snapshot is authentic, but it does greatly limit the scope of who might have tampered with the data. How likely is it that someone hacked into the archiving service, well before they knew there would be a lawsuit? Quote I run a website archiving service, but I don’t have the resources to hire auditors or security consultants. How can I prove our archives haven’t been modified after the fact? Simple answer: timestamps only make your problem better, not worse! Title: Re: 53M posts! View unedited/deleted posts (search per post, per user or per topic) Post by: PrimeNumber7 on April 12, 2021, 01:12:41 AM The below-quoted post is an instance of nutildah telling a clear-cut, easily provable lie couched in the form of a rhetorical question, and using that lie to smear my reputation. Loyce's bot will parse the forum's recent posts page (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=recent) only so often. If a post is deleted, my presumption is that the post will be removed from the recent posts page. This means if you delete a post shortly after a post is made, there is a chance anyone scraping forum posts will miss it. The post is missing from Loyce.Club: Archive of Loyce.Club 404 error (https://archive.is/w9Iyx), archive of Loyce.Club topic list which does not show this post (https://archive.is/8gj5w). The post is available from Ninjastic.Space (https://ninjastic.space/post/56749635) (archive of Ninjastic archive of post (https://archive.is/myRaS); archive of Ninjastic archive of the topic (https://archive.is/wZthO)). I have not (yet?) collated the list with other available records to ascertain if any other posts are missing. <> For the record: I did not delete any of ibminer’s posts from that topic. I was manually fending off an apparent spambot attack by suchmoon (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=703657.msg56750172#msg56750172), who reposted identical content 21 times within 2 hours; she sometimes reposted within seconds after I deleted it, so I rather doubt that that was done manually. <> Now, I must ask: What happened to post ID 56749635 in the Loyce.Club archive? Was it eaten by a bug, or was that post intentionally excluded for some reason? —If this is a bug, how many other posts may be affected? <> As a FYI, I created a bot (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5209723.msg53349693#msg53349693) that can moderate your self moderated thread(s) based on who is posting in your thread. The code was written to be used with Chrome, but I believe it can be modified (https://stackoverflow.com/questions/15316304/open-tor-browser-with-selenium) to be used with Tor, if that is what you wanted. Title: Re: 53M posts! View unedited/deleted posts (search per post, per user or per topic) Post by: LoyceV on April 12, 2021, 07:37:46 AM How OpenTimestamps 'Carbon Dated' (almost) The Entire Internet With One Bitcoin Transaction ~ OpenTimestamps (https://opentimestamps.org/) helps answer that question by cryptographically proving data existed in the past, long before an attacker would have had an opportunity or reason to forge or modify that data. I'm going to rewrite the basics of my scraper (it's my typical addition upon addition structure), and after that sha256sum each archive to one file per directory (up to 10,000 files). Then I'll leave it to the viewer to archive those checksums at any moment. I realize someone could claim I can use Apache2 logs to see if anyone has accessed that file, and thus know whether or not I can tamper with data without evidence. If anyone doesn't trust me with this, feel free to archive those files as often as you want. On second thought: I could use OpenTimestamp on those checksum-files, which would only need to be done 5 times a week. I'll see if I have time :) Loyce's bot will parse the forum's recent posts page (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=recent) only so often. If a post is deleted, my presumption is that the post will be removed from the recent posts page. This means if you delete a post shortly after a post is made, there is a chance anyone scraping forum posts will miss it. This is correct. When I use LoyceMobile (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1903546) to notify myself (https://loyce.club/notifications/459836.html), I have to wait a few seconds before deleting it or it might not show up.Title: Re: 53M posts! View unedited/deleted posts (search per post, per user or per topic) Post by: LoyceV on April 13, 2021, 11:05:14 AM Test > https://loyce.club/archive/posts/5677/56771597.html
My renewed scraper is now running. 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If anyone's up for it, please archive those files somewhere! I won't update the list in this post. I I noticed the order is a bit messy. For example (https://loyce.club/archive/posts/5677/sha-256.txt): Quote bd3eae531bb6317d8c70c772d70bee3b082b1546ac5ec0e55cc89aadd5b52520 https://loyce.club/archive/posts/5677/56779990.html If there's more than one new post, I scrape the latest first. 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View unedited/deleted posts (search per post, per user or per topic) Post by: LoyceV on April 14, 2021, 05:58:49 PM I My oldposts (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5167469.msg53759604#msg53759604) archive has 100 posts per page, and 1000 pages per directory. I created SHA-256 hashes for all pages, and placed one file in each directory. Each sha-256.txt file covers (up to) 100,000 posts.I'll post a link to each sha-256.txt file here, and add a SHA-256 hash for that file. As long as I don't edit this post, it proves I haven't edited any of those files later on. 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https://loyce.club/archive/oldposts/533/sha-256.txt Title: Re: 53M posts! View unedited/deleted posts (search per post, per user or per topic) Post by: LoyceV on April 17, 2021, 01:18:36 PM My renewed scraper is now running. I'm still missing some posts:Code: directory: numberofposts I checked which posts are missing in directory 5679 (https://loyce.club/archive/posts/5679/): Code: 56790397 I conpared those to Ninjastic Space (https://ninjastic.space/post/56799708). The following posts are made by a spambot: Code: 56790397 All but one of the remaining posts are missing on Ninjastic Space too. I assume TryNinja must have missed some of the spam too. And some of the posts may still exist on hidden boards. That leaves one missing post that concerns me: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=178336.msg56796059#msg56796059 (https://ninjastic.space/post/56796059). I don't know why it's missing. It just skips in my log file: Code: Downloading recent.html (Fri Apr 16 16:09:19 CEST 2021) Title: Re: 53M posts! View unedited/deleted posts (search per post, per user or per topic) Post by: LoyceV on April 28, 2021, 12:12:55 PM Update on posts missed by my scraper
To troubleshoot, I'm now saving every downloaded version of recent (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=recent). I'll check again for missing posts in a few days. Let's see the results :DSince this last post, I've scraped 7 full sets of 10,000 post: 5681 (https://loyce.club/archive/posts/5681/)xxxx-5687 (https://loyce.club/archive/posts/5687/)xxxx. For each directory, I managed to archive this many posts: Code: 5681: 9994 The following posts are missing: Code: 5681 I've checked all of them. The following posts exist on Ninjastic Space: https://ninjastic.space/post/56815785 spam https://ninjastic.space/post/56820249 spam https://ninjastic.space/post/56820735 spam https://ninjastic.space/post/56826406 > Wall Observer https://ninjastic.space/post/56835992 > Wall Observer https://ninjastic.space/post/56839667 spam https://ninjastic.space/post/56852686 > Wall Observer https://ninjastic.space/post/56852777 > Russian https://ninjastic.space/post/56867655 > Wall Observer https://ninjastic.space/post/56874327 spam https://ninjastic.space/post/56877337 spam The spam gets removed within seconds by MindlessElectron, so missing those posts is acceptable. That leaves 5 posts (0.007%) that I shouldn't have missed (assuming the other missing posts were either spam or posted on hidden boards). I've noticed before that I sometimes miss posts made in the Wall Observer thread. I'm guessing it might have to do with the size of the thread. I found the cause when checking the first missing Wall Observer post (56826406): It's missing from all versions of Recent Posts (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=recent) that I downloaded. See: https://loyce.club/other/recent/recent.Tue%20Apr%2020%2013:35:13%20CEST%202021.html This version has posts 56826404, 56826407 and 56826408. The posts in between are missing. Now compare: https://loyce.club/other/recent/recent.Tue%20Apr%2020%2013:35:55%20CEST%202021.html This version has posts 56826404 and 56826408. The posts in between are missing, which is why I couldn't scrape post 56826406. I'm guessing SMF can't really handle the volume of new posts being created (and deleted). I'm also guessing TryNinja catches missing posts by downloading the next recent page (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=recent;start=10). My plan is to implement that from another VPS for missing posts, but I need some time to do this. Title: Re: 53M posts! View unedited/deleted posts (search per post, per user or per topic) Post by: TryNinja on April 28, 2021, 07:35:40 PM I'm also guessing TryNinja catches missing posts by downloading the next recent page (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=recent;start=10). That was my plan, but I never actually implemented this. I just scrape the first (recent posts) page every ~5 seconds.Maybe it's just a loterry and I also missed a few posts that you catched, but I can't verify this now. Title: Re: 56M posts! View unedited/deleted posts (search per post, per user or per topic) Post by: LoyceV on June 01, 2021, 09:47:01 AM I'm temporarily halting updates for the list per user (https://loyce.club/archive/members/45/459836.html) and per topic (https://loyce.club/archive/topics/525/5256854.html), so I can merge the 50+ million older posts with the current version.
Update: There are now some duplicates (https://loyce.club/archive/members/45/459836.html) in my posts archive: Code: 9118. Post 51903915 (scraped 2020-07-08_Wed_09.55h, might have been edited) Update: The "per user" archives are working again. The "per topic" archives have more problems. I'lll restart those from scratch in the weekend. Update: At the rate this is going, it's going to take at least a week to complete. Update (June 9): it's going to take another week. Title: Re: 56M posts! View unedited/deleted posts (search per post, per user or per topic) Post by: LoyceV on June 12, 2021, 01:27:13 PM I'm temporarily halting updates for the list per user (https://loyce.club/archive/members/45/459836.html) and per topic (https://loyce.club/archive/topics/525/5256854.html), so I can merge the 50+ million older posts with the current version. I've finished merging posts. Update are working again!Now all "users" and "topics" list have contain all posts, including the posts made long before I joined the forum. Title: Re: 56M posts! View unedited/deleted posts (search per post, per user or per topic) Post by: LoyceV on July 06, 2021, 09:07:30 AM Theymos manually changed the ownership of 2 (deleted) posts:
Done. My records still show the original post.Posts are ordered in threads by message ID. What we do in these cases is that we repurpose the ID of a deleted post which lies in the appropriate range. Post 39334982 (https://loyce.club/archive/oldposts/393/393349xx.html#msg39334982) created by ChainEX (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2163997) now shows as created by 1miau (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4415262.msg39334982#msg39334982). Post 57307359 (https://loyce.club/archive/posts/5730/57307359.html) created by skillscreating (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2724168) now shows as created by Pmalek (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5345664.msg57307359#msg57307359). Title: Re: 56M posts! View unedited/deleted posts (search per post, per user or per topic) Post by: LoyceV on August 04, 2021, 12:33:26 PM Full disclosure: I temporarily censored post 57612715 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5351377.msg57612715#msg57612715) in my archive (https://loyce.club/archive/posts/5761/57612715.html). This was requested by the author (Royse777).
I don't like censoring data, and see no reason to permanently delete this. However, since it's part of an active scam investigation, it might help to keep it quiet for now. So I've removed it, and will restore the original archive in 90 days. Title: Re: 56M posts! View unedited/deleted posts (search per post, per user or per topic) Post by: LoyceV on October 30, 2021, 11:12:56 AM Full disclosure: I censored 2 posts (as requested by witcher_sense) because of possible doxing:
https://loyce.club/archive/oldposts/459/459551xx.html#msg45955145 https://loyce.club/archive/oldposts/459/459487xx.html#msg45948759 Title: Re: 56M posts! View unedited/deleted posts (search per post, per user or per topic) Post by: LoyceV on December 14, 2021, 08:50:55 AM Full disclosure: I censored my own post (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5374853.msg58708790#msg58708790) in my archive (https://loyce.club/archive/posts/5870/58708790.html), because I messed up quoting myself and didn't intend to share the address publicly.
Title: Re: 56M posts! View unedited/deleted posts (search per post, per user or per topic) Post by: NotATether on February 21, 2022, 02:52:23 PM @LoyceV how does your bot know when a new message is posted on bitcointalk? Last time I checked, you could only get a message ID a link with the topic ID inside it, but it is non-trivial to find the topic ID.
I am trying to scrape posts from bitcointalk to load into my Elasticsearch cluster but I have no idea when to make my script check for new posts. Title: Re: 56M posts! View unedited/deleted posts (search per post, per user or per topic) Post by: LoyceV on February 21, 2022, 03:12:40 PM @LoyceV how does your bot know when a new message is posted on bitcointalk? Check Recent Posts (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=recent) often enough.Quote I am trying to scrape posts from bitcointalk to load into my Elasticsearch cluster Maybe @TryNinja can get you a copy of his posts archive. I could do it too, but mine is in 2 different formats so more work to figure out.Title: Re: 56M posts! View unedited/deleted posts (search per post, per user or per topic) Post by: TryNinja on February 21, 2022, 03:16:02 PM I am trying to scrape posts from bitcointalk to load into my Elasticsearch cluster but I have no idea when to make my script check for new posts. Any specific reason why you need them on an ES cluster? That's something I already do to run the ninjastic.space searching.Title: Re: 56M posts! View unedited/deleted posts (search per post, per user or per topic) Post by: NotATether on February 22, 2022, 02:49:11 PM I am trying to scrape posts from bitcointalk to load into my Elasticsearch cluster but I have no idea when to make my script check for new posts. Any specific reason why you need them on an ES cluster? That's something I already do to run the ninjastic.space searching.So that I can make a better Bitcointalk search engine. I can't stand the built-in one on Simple Machines Forum - the search is slow (sometimes they take over a minute for results to load - if they even do) and the results are never specific enough. Title: Re: 56M posts! View unedited/deleted posts (search per post, per user or per topic) Post by: TryNinja on February 22, 2022, 03:04:46 PM So that I can make a better Bitcointalk search engine. I can't stand the built-in one on Simple Machines Forum - the search is slow (sometimes they take over a minute for results to load - if they even do) and the results are never specific enough. That's exactly what I use it for (https://ninjastic.space/search). Maybe it doesn't suit your needs? Title: Re: 56M posts! View unedited/deleted posts (search per post, per user or per topic) Post by: NotATether on February 22, 2022, 05:55:37 PM So that I can make a better Bitcointalk search engine. I can't stand the built-in one on Simple Machines Forum - the search is slow (sometimes they take over a minute for results to load - if they even do) and the results are never specific enough. That's exactly what I use it for (https://ninjastic.space/search). Maybe it doesn't suit your needs? No, unfortunately. The search is sometimes not specific just like Bitcointalk search. Take for example "public key addition" https://ninjastic.space/search?content=public%20key%20addition there is only 1 result on the page with the exact words in order. For this example I was expecting some of my posts about public key addition to appear. Title: Re: 56M posts! View unedited/deleted posts (search per post, per user or per topic) Post by: LoyceV on February 22, 2022, 06:07:00 PM Take for example "public key addition" https://ninjastic.space/search?content=public%20key%20addition there is only 1 result on the page with the exact words in order. I get 2,376 results on that link. If I add double quotes (https://ninjastic.space/search?content=%22public%20key%20addition%22), I get 8 results.Quote For this example I was expecting some of my posts about public key addition to appear. If I search my archive (https://loyce.club/archive/members/273/2739424.html) on your posts, I get only one match for "public key addition":https://loyce.club/archive/posts/5933/59330710.html That's your post above. If I would download your post history, I may find it again if you edited those posts later. The problem is we can't know which posts are edited, without checking all posts again. And downloading all posts takes about half a year. Title: Re: 56M posts! View unedited/deleted posts (search per post, per user or per topic) Post by: NotATether on February 23, 2022, 01:28:18 AM The problem is we can't know which posts are edited, without checking all posts again. And downloading all posts takes about half a year. Just for clarification, that time is assuming there's a 1-second sleep between requests, right? (Theymos said he'd ban IP addresses that stress the server out with more frequent requests so that's what I have in my scraper) Title: Re: 56M posts! View unedited/deleted posts (search per post, per user or per topic) Post by: LoyceV on February 23, 2022, 08:01:47 AM Just for clarification, that time is assuming there's a 1-second sleep between requests, right? Yes.Quote (Theymos said he'd ban IP addresses that stress the server out with more frequent requests so that's what I have in my scraper) You'll get a warning page if you go to fast. I've also seen bans for bots that use multiple IPs so don't go there.Title: Re: 56M posts! View unedited/deleted posts (search per post, per user or per topic) Post by: NotATether on February 23, 2022, 10:50:41 AM Quote (Theymos said he'd ban IP addresses that stress the server out with more frequent requests so that's what I have in my scraper) You'll get a warning page if you go to fast. I've also seen bans for bots that use multiple IPs so don't go there.Yeah, I figured already that multiple IPs would be unwelcome since it basically circumvents the 1sec restriction. Title: Re: 56M posts! View unedited/deleted posts (search per post, per user or per topic) Post by: LoyceV on April 23, 2022, 08:01:59 AM I've censored the following posts in my archive because of doxing (as requested here (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5273824.msg59925137#msg59925137)):
Title: Re: 60M posts! View unedited/deleted posts (search per post, per user or per topic) Post by: LoyceV on June 21, 2022, 08:01:10 AM I missed posts 60409954-60410008, my scraper couldn't catch them because of Cloudflare.
The nearest ones I have are 60409953 (https://loyce.club/archive/posts/6040/60409953.html) and 60410009 (https://loyce.club/archive/posts/6041/60410009.html). That leaves a 15 minute gap. Title: Re: 60M posts! View unedited/deleted posts (search per post, per user or per topic) Post by: LoyceV on December 11, 2022, 04:01:29 PM Full disclosure (I blame Cloudflare):
I miss all posts between posts 61426048 (https://loyce.club/archive/posts/6142/61426048.html) and 61427300 (https://loyce.club/archive/posts/6142/61427300.html). That's 1251 missing posts in 5 hours and 40 minutes. For 8 hours and 24 minutes, my scraper wasn't working. Anything between posts 61513760 (https://loyce.club/archive/posts/6151/61513760.html) and 61515614 (https://loyce.club/archive/posts/6151/61515614.html) (1853 posts) is missing Title: Re: 60M posts! View unedited/deleted posts (search per post, per user or per topic) Post by: LoyceV on December 31, 2022, 07:37:17 AM I've reduced my scraping frequency for new posts (to reduce unnecessary server load). I created my posts archive when there were many more posts per day, and the recent page (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=recent) only shows the last 10 so I have to be quick.
If I start missing more posts, that's either because it's spam and MindlessElectron (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1136003) deleted it before I scraped them, or because there were many posts in a short interval. I'll keep an eye on this. Title: Re: 60M posts! View unedited/deleted posts (search per post, per user or per topic) Post by: Mitchell on December 31, 2022, 12:55:54 PM Full disclosure (I blame Cloudflare): Yeah, CloudFlare is a bit of a bitch, but not much you can do. I miss all posts between posts 61426048 (https://loyce.club/archive/posts/6142/61426048.html) and 61427300 (https://loyce.club/archive/posts/6142/61427300.html). That's 1251 missing posts in 5 hours and 40 minutes. For 8 hours and 24 minutes, my scraper wasn't working. Anything between posts 61513760 (https://loyce.club/archive/posts/6151/61513760.html) and 61515614 (https://loyce.club/archive/posts/6151/61515614.html) (1853 posts) is missing Title: Re: 60M posts! View unedited/deleted posts (search per post, per user or per topic) Post by: LoyceV on December 31, 2022, 02:17:35 PM Yeah, CloudFlare is a bit of a bitch, but not much you can do. My scraper got whitelisted (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5432331.0), but don't know yet if that solves all problems.Title: Re: 60M posts! View unedited/deleted posts (search per post, per user or per topic) Post by: Mitchell on December 31, 2022, 02:20:03 PM My scraper got whitelisted (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5432331.0), but don't know yet if that solves all problems. My bot is whitelisted as well, but when CloudFlare goes to its highest security level, the whitelist doesn't matter, as it will always show a Javascript challenge. :PTitle: Re: 60M posts! View unedited/deleted posts (search per post, per user or per topic) Post by: LoyceV on December 31, 2022, 03:11:58 PM My bot is whitelisted as well, but when CloudFlare goes to its highest security level, the whitelist doesn't matter, as it will always show a Javascript challenge. :P I was afraid of that:In this case it may not have mattered. Cloudflare was having a real bad morning today. Got the calls from a few clients that they could not get to their own sites from the own offices that are in the IP whitelist. I'm just flabbergasted that Cloudflare doesn't allow a real whitelist. Makes you wonder: are they trying to force Tor users to use a less secure connection? What could they possibly gain from that? Wait, never mind:Cloudflare is very probably an NSA honeypot Title: Re: 60M posts! View unedited/deleted posts (search per post, per user or per topic) Post by: LoyceV on June 30, 2023, 05:23:59 AM DDOS :(
It looks like there's a DDOS going on, which started yesterday. I started DROPping ports, but I forgot to exclude Bitcointalk (it was quite late), so I broke my scraper. For 7 hours and 2 minutes, I didn't download any posts between posts 62480523 (https://loyce.club/archive/posts/6248/62480523.html) and 62481467 (https://loyce.club/archive/posts/6248/62481467.html). That's 944 missing posts, which also mean my notifications (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5331343.0) failed for those. Title: Re: 60M posts! View unedited/deleted posts (search per post, per user or per topic) Post by: LoyceV on July 03, 2023, 04:03:23 PM The DDOS got worse before migigating it, and I missed more posts. Once in a while, my server managed to get some data again, and I'll only list the bigger gaps. I haven't archived any posts between the following msgIDs:
62490527 (http://loyce.club/archive/posts/6249/62490527.html)-62490570 (http://loyce.club/archive/posts/6249/62490570.html) 62490579 (http://loyce.club/archive/posts/6249/62490579.html)-62490594 (http://loyce.club/archive/posts/6249/62490594.html) 62490606 (http://loyce.club/archive/posts/6249/62490606.html)-62490612 (http://loyce.club/archive/posts/6249/62490612.html) 62490641 (http://loyce.club/archive/posts/6249/62490641.html)-62490690 (http://loyce.club/archive/posts/6249/62490690.html) 62490699 (http://loyce.club/archive/posts/6249/62490699.html)-62490726 (http://loyce.club/archive/posts/6249/62490726.html) 62490748 (http://loyce.club/archive/posts/6249/62490748.html)-62490777 (http://loyce.club/archive/posts/6249/62490777.html) 62490802 (http://loyce.club/archive/posts/6249/62490802.html)-62490831 (http://loyce.club/archive/posts/6249/62490831.html) 62490964 (http://loyce.club/archive/posts/6249/62490964.html)-62491018 (http://loyce.club/archive/posts/6249/62491018.html) 62491027 (http://loyce.club/archive/posts/6249/62491027.html)-62491089 (http://loyce.club/archive/posts/6249/62491089.html) 62491098 (http://loyce.club/archive/posts/6249/62491098.html)-62491150 (http://loyce.club/archive/posts/6249/62491150.html) 62491159 (http://loyce.club/archive/posts/6249/62491159.html)-62491277 (http://loyce.club/archive/posts/6249/62491277.html) 62491286 (http://loyce.club/archive/posts/6249/62491286.html)-62491552 (http://loyce.club/archive/posts/6249/62491552.html) 62491561 (http://loyce.club/archive/posts/6249/62491561.html)-62494873 (http://loyce.club/archive/posts/6249/62494873.html) In total, I missed 4172 posts in the 62490000-category. Long-term, I want to setup a backup scraper so I won't lose posts again. That's going to be complicated to process for members and topics, considering I still don't use a database. So that's why it's a long-term plan :P Title: Re: 60M posts! View unedited/deleted posts (search per post, per user or per topic) Post by: LoyceV on July 09, 2023, 03:45:53 AM Cloudflare on Bitcointalk is now blocking me from scraping (again). Unfortunately, I can't do anything about that.
I noticed it this morning, when my browser gave me a Cloudflare page before showing the forum. Title: Re: 60M posts! View unedited/deleted posts (search per post, per user or per topic) Post by: Don Pedro Dinero on September 22, 2023, 03:28:30 PM Ever wanted to see who's lying when a post has been edited or deleted? I may be able to help! I have a question about this. I am sure this post has been edited, and does not appear as such on either bitcointalk.org or loyce.club: <...> Week#8 payment sent: fecf5189175f804322440a38e72e1ad4d3050704d4568d076986a2ca03a92c2a (https://blockchair.com/bitcoin/transaction/fecf5189175f804322440a38e72e1ad4d3050704d4568d076986a2ca03a92c2a) Current balance: 0.11616218 BTC (The balance is enough to cover more than 1 week) https://bitcoindata.science/api/addressbalance.php?address=bc1qfqd0mqhws95d5q2rv6cgeqyr7cyxd4slltg7ze07wt42x0xg7q5q9l55a0 Once there are refill, I will update. <...> I'm not saying that my campaign manager lied or anything like that, I'm just curious because I was checking to see if the escrow had been filled in and when I didn't see it in later posts, I see that the balance has been updated in that post but without it being edited. At first I thought about asking it in the campaign thread but it would seem a bit off topic there. Could it be because of the API, which automatically updates the balance at source of the data, and that's why the post does not appear as edited on the forum? After publishing the post I see that the image in question does appear as invalid but in the preview appeared correctly: https://www.talkimg.com/images/2023/09/22/60R9g.png And now after posting this I see that the image in the quote has changed and appears as correct. Crazy. Title: Re: 60M posts! View unedited/deleted posts (search per post, per user or per topic) Post by: AB de Royse777 on September 22, 2023, 05:02:16 PM @Don Pedro Dinero, you are dealing with API calls :-D
Title: Re: 60M posts! View unedited/deleted posts (search per post, per user or per topic) Post by: LoyceV on September 22, 2023, 05:20:56 PM Could it be because of the API, which automatically updates the balance at source of the data, and that's why the post does not appear as edited on the forum? Correct:Code: [img]https://bitcoindata.science/api/addressbalance.php?address=bc1qfqd0mqhws95d5q2rv6cgeqyr7cyxd4slltg7ze07wt42x0xg7q5q9l55a0[/img] Title: Re: 60M posts! View unedited/deleted posts (search per post, per user or per topic) Post by: logfiles on January 05, 2024, 02:03:54 PM Question:
Ratters (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=159141) has made a total number of 507 posts, but according to archive (https://loyce.club/archive/members/15/159141.html), There are only 472 archived posts. Could this be a case of some posts not getting archived? Title: Re: 60M posts! View unedited/deleted posts (search per post, per user or per topic) Post by: BitcoinGirl.Club on January 05, 2024, 02:23:11 PM Question: I think the archival only archives posts after a given period of time. Those none archived posts were from before the archived date.Ratters (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=159141) has made a total number of 507 posts, but according to archive (https://loyce.club/archive/members/15/159141.html), There are only 472 archived posts. Could this be a case of some posts not getting archived? Title: Re: 60M posts! View unedited/deleted posts (search per post, per user or per topic) Post by: LoyceV on January 05, 2024, 02:45:52 PM Ratters (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=159141) has made a total number of 507 posts, but according to archive (https://loyce.club/archive/members/15/159141.html), There are only 472 archived posts. Could this be a case of some posts not getting archived? Good find! I don't (https://loyce.club/archive/oldposts/47/47754xx.html#msg4775469) have this post (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=430091.msg4775469#msg4775469) for example. Even worse: I only (https://loyce.club/archive/topics/43/430091.html) have the first 20 posts from this topic (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=430091.6440) with 6448 posts. I guess my scraping didn't catch the second page, my "page detection" had some flaws sometimes.Considering this shitcoin topic was abandoned in 2014, I won't update my scraping. I think the archival only archives posts after a given period of time. Those none archived posts were from before the archived date. I also scraped older posts (https://loyce.club/archive/oldposts/0/0xx.html#msg28).Title: Re: 60M posts! View unedited/deleted posts (search per post, per user or per topic) Post by: Ratters on February 16, 2024, 01:00:18 PM Just stumbled on this topic whilst doing some catch-up.
Question: Ratters (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=159141) has made a total number of 507 posts, but according to archive (https://loyce.club/archive/members/15/159141.html), There are only 472 archived posts. Could this be a case of some posts not getting archived? It's probs because I am very VERY old! Appreciate you doing due-diligence whilst we were discussing my account revival. ;) Title: Re: 60M posts! View unedited/deleted posts (search per post, per user or per topic) Post by: LoyceV on February 16, 2024, 01:46:56 PM It's probs because I am very VERY old! Or you could read the post right above yours that gives the real reason:my "page detection" had some flaws Title: Re: 60M posts! View unedited/deleted posts (search per post, per user or per topic) Post by: Ratters on February 16, 2024, 02:00:09 PM I'm sure it has less flaws than if anyone else were to have attempted it, it's way over my head!
Keep up the good work, I hope it is used effectively to reduce scamming/cheating. |