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September 05, 2020, 11:11:34 PM |
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Hopefully I'm in he right thread, this page: https://loyce.club/archive/members/13/131361.html only shows the initial post, not any deletions, edits etc Is there another page that shows this, or has this page not updated?
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September 06, 2020, 06:23:49 AM Last edit: September 06, 2020, 09:08:33 AM by LoyceV |
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Is there another page that shows this See LoyceV's Topic Details: highlight deleted and edited posts (forum wide): I think it would be super useful if we could see which posts/replies of a user profile have been deleted by having it highlighted on the user page also... I agree, but: My initial plan was to make this for a user's post history too, but it was much more work than anticipated, so I skipped that. I could still add it when I have time, but my "topic details" are barely used, and I expect the same for "user details".
TryNinja's site can help searching this data:
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September 19, 2020, 08:42:29 PM |
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Hey LoyceV
Have you ever considered scraping the bbcode of posts instead of the html? Or at least scrape both of them? This would solve some problems, one of them is determining accuratly if an image changed in a post or not
This idea might be naive but let me know your thoughts eitherway
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September 20, 2020, 08:55:28 AM |
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Have you ever considered scraping the bbcode of posts instead of the html? Or at least scrape both of them? I scrape posts as a guest, without logging in. That means I only see HTML, there is no BBCode. The only way to see BBCode of a post would be by clicking " edit" (for my own posts) or " quote" for posts from other users. And that's only possible if the topic isn't locked. I guess the forum database stores posts as BBCode, but that's above my pay grade.
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September 20, 2020, 02:56:42 PM |
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I scrape posts as a guest, without logging in. That means I only see HTML, there is no BBCode. The only way to see BBCode of a post would be by clicking "edit" (for my own posts) or "quote" for posts from other users. And that's only possible if the topic isn't locked. I guess the forum database stores posts as BBCode, but that's above my pay grade.
Well one solution is first making a dummy bitcointalk account; to get a post quote that's the template: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=post;quote=POST_NUMBER;topic=TOPIC_NUMBER;sesc=SESSION_TOKEN after replacing the three fields we get a link where we can get the the content of the textarea html tag which contains the bbcode of the post. Ofcourse since it's a dummy account it won't have posts so clicking "edit" (for my own posts) isn't needed It seems like a decent amount of work and effort is needed but now that I think of it does the benefits justify it? I don't know
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September 20, 2020, 03:15:20 PM |
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It seems like a decent amount of work and effort is needed but now that I think of it does the benefits justify it? No I have enough to do already, but worse: I'd have to check every post one by one, instead of downloading several posts at once from recent.
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October 09, 2020, 09:54:10 AM Last edit: October 10, 2020, 06:34:48 AM by LoyceV |
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October 11, 2020, 07:50:55 AM |
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The search tool looks great, good job @ bitmover! I would just like to report a bug, once I search for satoshi it returns me error 404. On other members it works fine.
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October 11, 2020, 09:24:32 AM |
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I would just like to report a bug, once I search for satoshi it returns me error 404. On other members it works fine. It's not really a bug but I'll fix it anyway: the members lists only include users who posted since I started this thread (in July last year). Satoshi's posts are part of my "oldposts" archive, which can be found by searching for older msgIDs, but not yet by topicID or userID. I'm working on adding this, but processing the data it's going to take a while.
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October 11, 2020, 10:01:43 AM |
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It's not really a bug but I'll fix it anyway: the members lists only include users who posted since I started this thread (in July last year). Satoshi's posts are part of my "oldposts" archive, which can be found by searching for older msgIDs, but not yet by topicID or userID. I'm working on adding this, but processing the data it's going to take a while. How exactly are you processing the data? Do you have a vps opened 24/7 that tries to find all posts? Like saving for every x,y: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=X.msgY
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October 11, 2020, 01:21:11 PM |
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How exactly are you processing the data? I have the data already ( example), but it's not the most convenient format to create a list by userID and topicID. I have 12 (15? GB compressed files, it's too much to extract them all at once, and I still don't use a database. It'll work, but it takes a while. That's okay, because this is a one-time thing. Do you have a vps opened 24/7 that tries to find all posts? Yes, I use recent posts to get new posts. It's currently out of CPU credits, so it got like 10 times slower. For the older posts, I downloaded all topics. There's no need to download post by post, each page has up to 20 posts.
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October 12, 2020, 06:34:02 AM |
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Hello LoyceV and bitmover! This is a huge change for a better user friendliness of the site as a whole and of the search for deleted/edited posts in particular. Great job! I have to say that the old way of searching for posts, topics and user IDs was a bit difficult for the users which did not have too much experience in computers, thus this update is very helpful. Not just for the users with limited experience, but also for the experienced ones, as the new interface makes things way more simpler and faster. Considering the change, LoyceV, do you think this part of the OP should be updated too? I'm asking because the old way of searching is not working anymore. Now you have to insert the full number of message ID/topic ID/user ID. How to use it- Find the msgID, userID or topicID you need. Let's use msgID 51902990.
- Remove the last 4 digits from the msgID to get the directory name (if there are 4 or less digits, use 0): 5190.
- Put everything together behind the (above) URL and add ".html": http://loyce.club/archive/posts/5190/51902990.html.
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October 12, 2020, 08:09:12 AM |
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Considering the change, LoyceV, do you think this part of the OP should be updated too? I'm asking because the old way of searching is not working anymore. The old description still works too, but I should update it anyway. I was waiting until I'm done with some other updates. I do miss the long list of directory names for instance, so I should add that again to easily find the latest post.
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October 12, 2020, 09:00:12 AM |
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Uhm... I tried today to enter a truncated user ID in the new search form and it didn't work... I chose an ID and I selected only first four digits (out of 8 or how many they were) and the result was someone else: the user which had the ID made from those exactly 4 digits... So I wasn't redirected to the long list of directory names. I don't know how you got there, but this is what happened on my side...
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October 12, 2020, 09:46:37 AM |
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Uhm... I tried today to enter a truncated user ID in the new search form and it didn't work... I chose an ID and I selected only first four digits (out of 8 or how many they were) and the result was someone else: the user which had the ID made from those exactly 4 digits... That's the expected result So I wasn't redirected to the long list of directory names. It's currently not possible because I placed the search form in index.html in that directory.
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October 12, 2020, 10:19:45 AM |
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Oh I see now, thank you for the explanation. Everything's clear.
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December 08, 2020, 09:23:37 AM |
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April 10, 2021, 10:32:35 AM |
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The below-quoted post is an instance of nutildah telling a clear-cut, easily provable lie couched in the form of a rhetorical question, and using that lie to smear my reputation. The post is missing from Loyce.Club: Archive of Loyce.Club 404 error, archive of Loyce.Club topic list which does not show this post. The post is available from Ninjastic.Space ( archive of Ninjastic archive of post; archive of Ninjastic archive of the topic). I have not (yet?) collated the list with other available records to ascertain if any other posts are missing. Nullius - you deleted 23 of ibminers posts? (I know the last 2 are mine).
You've decided to turn right into cryptohunter, apparently.
Your first posts on the forum provided an injection of knowledge relevant to the main subjects of the forum, but then you became completely obsessed with starting witch hunts against everybody who had crossed you in the past.
What happened?
For the record: I did not delete any of ibminer’s posts from that topic. I was manually fending off an apparent spambot attack by suchmoon, who reposted identical content 21 times within 2 hours; she sometimes reposted within seconds after I deleted it, so I rather doubt that that was done manually. In another topic that nutildah follows, I was contemporaneously counting deletions. The count of identical posts can be easily verified in the Ninjastic topic archive: Ctrl-F for the phrase, "Awww, nullius has been triggered" (my browser says “1 of 21 matches”). nutildah posted the above right after suchmoon stopped using spammer tactics to attempt forcing her post; either nutildah must have been high as a kite to make the above accusation, or he must have been intentionally lying. Of course, I myself deleted nutildah’s post; but I never want for such evidence to be memory-holed. Now, I must ask: What happened to post ID 56749635 in the Loyce.Club archive? Was it eaten by a bug, or was that post intentionally excluded for some reason? —If this is a bug, how many other posts may be affected? Either way, it is an important question. Many forum users rely on the Loyce.Club archive for evidence of facts in controversy. Ever wanted to see who's lying when a post has been edited or deleted? I may be able to help!
Aside: When I use self-mod powers to delete posts, I habitually save quotes of them. If you play stupid games, then you will win stupid prizes. Edit: Archive of this post.
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Now, I must ask: What happened to post ID 56749635 in the Loyce.Club archive? Was it eaten by a bug, or was that post intentionally excluded for some reason? I can assure you this is unintentional. Any censoring I've done, is highlighted in this topic, and in those cases I've edited my archive instead of removing it. It looks like AWS couldn't download files for a few minutes, I'm missing 19 posts around that time: -rw-rw-r-- 1 loyce loyce 1424 Apr 10 06:22 56749610.html -rw-rw-r-- 1 loyce loyce 964 Apr 10 06:22 56749611.html -rw-rw-r-- 1 loyce loyce 3594 Apr 10 06:22 56749612.html -rw-rw-r-- 1 loyce loyce 750 Apr 10 06:22 56749613.html -rw-rw-r-- 1 loyce loyce 881 Apr 10 06:22 56749614.html -rw-rw-r-- 1 loyce loyce 1426 Apr 10 06:22 56749615.html -rw-rw-r-- 1 loyce loyce 2751 Apr 10 06:22 56749616.html -rw-rw-r-- 1 loyce loyce 2949 Apr 10 06:22 56749617.html -rw-rw-r-- 1 loyce loyce 933 Apr 10 06:22 56749618.html <posts missing> -rw-rw-r-- 1 loyce loyce 895 Apr 10 06:27 56749637.html -rw-rw-r-- 1 loyce loyce 671 Apr 10 06:27 56749638.html -rw-rw-r-- 1 loyce loyce 903 Apr 10 06:27 56749639.html -rw-rw-r-- 1 loyce loyce 1219 Apr 10 06:27 56749640.html -rw-rw-r-- 1 loyce loyce 928 Apr 10 06:27 56749641.html -rw-rw-r-- 1 loyce loyce 918 Apr 10 06:27 56749642.html -rw-rw-r-- 1 loyce loyce 911 Apr 10 06:27 56749643.html -rw-rw-r-- 1 loyce loyce 691 Apr 10 06:27 56749644.html -rw-rw-r-- 1 loyce loyce 914 Apr 10 06:27 56749645.html -rw-rw-r-- 1 loyce loyce 525 Apr 10 06:27 56749646.html -rw-rw-r-- 1 loyce loyce 672 Apr 10 06:27 56749647.html -rw-rw-r-- 1 loyce loyce 6804 Apr 10 06:27 56749648.html -rw-rw-r-- 1 loyce loyce 899 Apr 10 06:27 56749649.html -rw-rw-r-- 1 loyce loyce 873 Apr 10 06:27 56749650.html I don't have a redundant setup, so I'm glad TryNinja archives the posts I missed. It doesn't happen often though: I just checked loyce.club/archive/posts/5233/: it shows 9994 files. That means my scraper missed 6 posts, or 0.06%. This might have been caused by burst posting (faster than my scraper can handle), or those 6 posts could be in Investigation or some other hidden board that normal users can't access. If this is a bug, how many other posts may be affected? I can't tell exactly, I don't archive posts in Investigations and hidden (Mod/VIP) boards. Starting at post 54000000, I don't have those archived: 54000055 54001181 54001317 54001426 54001499 54001852 54001927 54003325 54008756 54009162 54010606 54011801 54012269 54012352 54013554 54014770 54025341 54028198 54031139 54031140 54031141 54031142 54036200 54036207 54036302 54036488 54036509 54036596 54036937 54037280 54037396 54037785 54038210 54038250 54038602 54039168 54041732 54043559 54044860 54046151 54050439 54050996 54056400 54062885 54063687 54069209 54069231 54069237 54070667 54070681 54071965 54076527 54080674 54080795 54080994 54082439 54086474 54088322 54097142 54099056 54100717 54100814 54100880 54100950 54101369 54104169 54105038 54105289 54108495 54113711 54113715 54113717 54113719 54114110 54117832 54121889 54122264 54124763 54128945 54130431 54133718 54133736 54133780 54133793 54134132 54135548 54135687 54136825 54137732 54140951 54140952 54140953 54140954 54140955 54140956 54140957 54140958 54140959 54140960 54140961 54140962 54140963 54140964 54140965 54140966 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55989797 55990261 55990811 55991496 55991798 55993009 55994318 55994578 55995053 55995967 55996037 55996538 55997431 (list continues in next post) That's 0.17%, and I'm mostly missing the newer posts. Since April 6, I have multiple "leftover" tmp-files per day, which indicates something failed. I was never completely satisfied with the way my script handles scraping, but now it's just terrible. If the kids let me, I'll try to find the cause tomorrow. Either way, it is an important question. Many forum users rely on the Loyce.Club archive for evidence of facts in controversy. I've considered setting up a second VPS, but don't want to double my load on Bitcointalk. Setting it up to only start scraping if my regular archiving fails would solve this, but considering the few posts I missed, I never created this. Thanks for pointing this out!
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