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Hello, few years ago on this forum someone gave me a negative "trusted" feedback for nothing. It doesn't appear on my profile until today... (it was in "untrusted feedback" before)


This account made a lot of false accusations against lot of members, look at his feedback history.... and this feedback is non-sense. Please how to remove it ? If i start a thread for a project i'm gonna be labeled as a "probable scammer" which is innaceptable....

This kind of act should be bannable.

1: It's not an alt account.
2: Alt accounts are not prohibited.

Thanks.

First, Technical Support isn't the right board for this kind of issues (this belongs to meta).

Secondly, AbBitNut isn't even in the DT2/DT1 list so there's no way that "that" old trust rating will show by default.
Next, Trust isn't moderated: Unofficial list of (official) Bitcointalk.org rules, guidelines, FAQ (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=703657.0) means that moderators will not meddle with trust issues (with some exceptions).
Lastly, check your Trust Settings if you've manually included him in your trust list (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust) or you might have selected Trust depth 3-4 and he's on that list.
If you did, set it back to default = 2.

So you want the forum to ban ABitNut and yourself for leaving unnecessary feedback?

I can confirm you that the trust rating wasn't not show by default ;) i checked my account few times per day in the previous days so it's 100% sure ;) in the week i was even thinking about my trust rating. 100% sure.
There is nobody in my trusted list.

I have to present my project soon, so i'm gonna appear as a scammer, so i won't present my project on this forum which is a shame i'm here since 2014.......


Where i did it ? they did it to me so i replied ;) Check the list of "untrusted feedback" in my profil, i only saw that today so i replied to all those untrusted and fake feedback. You don't seem to like me, why ? If someone come to your account and he give you a negative feedback for nothing, what you gonna do ? you will give him the same i bet.

Giving retaliative feedbacks doesn't solve the issue, it might make you feel good but it doesn't solve anything. Untrustworthy feedback (from non DT members) are as good as useless especially as it doesn't affect your profile or reputation (on the forum) unless, your trust page get viewed. If you think a users is abusing the trust system (multiple abuse and not just on your account), you can bring such cases opening to the public and that user might get what he/she deserves.

Hardly before you see any user doing something right not get a false feedbacks. So from my point of view, if you get a false feedbacks that doesn't affect your account, you let it go and continue your activity on he forum.


Thanks, just notice it also from using the default trust viewing option. Hope he resolved the issue soon.

It is because someone from DT1 has included @ABitNut to there trust list, which made his feedback as someone from DT2 and it appeared under trusted feedback this week.

As you can see, according to last Saturday's trust list update, no one from DT1 included him until then, hence the feedback appeared under untrusted feedback.

http://loyce.club/trust/2019-08-31_Sat_06.04h/331100.html.


I see no solid, evidence ( like connected address ) of you being an alt of someone in the reference thread link posted with your tag so I am inclined to think it is a abuse. But the only way to get rig of it is to ask the persons himself to remove the tag from your account, or convince the DT1 who have included him in there trust list to remove him.

And yaa, that's not a bannable offence, so don't stir it !  

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He is in DT2, due to some inclusions from a DT1. I see it under trusted feedback on OP, I am using default trust list FYI.

Weird, one of my trust list must have distrusted ~ABitNut thus removed him in the DT2 list on my trust page.
I'm not seeing the negative rating.

But it's displayed if I set my trust list to default.

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@StonerStanley It's not a major trust issue anyways, people usually refer to Trust flag (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5153344.0) for possible scammer profiles.

I've not been active on this forum for long. But I got a notification that I had a private message so I checked it out:


I checked the feedback I left. Yes, I called you out for being an alt account years ago. And that's exactly what my feedback means. I (as an individual) was convinced that the person that controlled your account had multiple accounts.

Now I'd be open to reasonable arguments but:

1) Your message to me is rude
2) You're abusing the trust system by leaving false feedback
3) You're accusing me of being a scammer

So I'm disinclined to oblige your request.

Have a nice weekend.

It's false, all my feedbacks are real (talk about yours in first, be honest)

You admit to being wrong but don't want to delete your wrong feedback ? you are untrustable and a very dishonnest person.
You should understand why i reacted like that, look at your feedback history...

What a world i was born into. People who want the justice but act like you....

"delete your sh*t" is less rude than having a negative feedback for nothing real, but i'm gonna contact theymos.

As a developer, i find this "trust feedback" system is badly designed if there i no moderators to moderate the wrong and useless feedbacks.

So then why this thread?

They did something to you.  You do it back to them. 
Why are you complaining about it?

Why are you complaining about it? it's a bit crazy that you are complaining about something that has nothing to do with you while 'im complaining about my own case.

i started the thread after replied to the feedbacks. When you have +29 / -3 feedbacks like you then it's easy to talk.

And this thread is because i have serious projects to present so yes my reputation is important :) this guy isn't doing anything for the community and bring nobody.

By the way i never said to ban him "it should be bannable" to give fake feedbacks.

ABiNut has been included by TECSHARE for as long as I can see (http://loyce.club/trust/2019-01-25_Fri_22.33h/331100.html):
What changed, is that TECSHARE reached DT1 (strength 0 instead of negative) a few hours ago (https://bpip.org/r/dt1changes.aspx).

Your Reference link is a deleted post, and that thread doesn't show any evidence. You're on DT2 now, which means your feedback should be accurate and ideally convincing too. Can you convince me?
Note that having an alt-account by itself is not a valid reason to give red trust. You're included by TECSHARE, and I've often seen him ask for proper use of the Trust system. If you want to remain on DT2, it doesn't hurt to convince your DT1 "sponsor" that your feedback is accurate.

Being on DT means you should have a thicker skin. Being rude shouldn't be the reason to leave red feedback on any account.
True. StonerStanley: until today, you hadn't sent any feedback, now you're retaliating. That doesn't help your case.
You should at least supply proper Reference links to your accusations.

You're wasting your and his time. Feedback isn't moderated.

Being on DT, that's not a reason to tag an account. You may want to read the arguments in this thread (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4826180.0), from when I received a similar incorrect tag.

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Add ;dt to any URL to view it as DT. Example: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=348604;dt

StonerStanley, remove your retaliatory negative rating and I will help you sort this out. Your rating is not a valid use of the trust system. If you must, a neutral rating would be appropriate, but also counterproductive for you.

Ok thanks.

I know it's not good to act like i that but i felt angry.

I remove my feedback.

Great. That is understandable, but you are really only hurting yourself. Please observe how to approach such a situation in a more productive manner.

ABitNut, I am requesting on StonerStanley's behalf that you please remove your negative rating for him. He has taken the first conciliatory step towards mutual restoration, and your original rating seems somewhat baseless.

I checked reference link and it points to missing post, however, someone archived it http://web.archive.org/web/20150517200326/https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=677224.20 (post #29), StonerStanly posted:


Someone having an alt account is not a valid reason for negative feedback, however, I am really surprised that OP said it is not alt account while they clearly said it is. Question is, which main account has been tagged (hm...banned?) and for what reason?

Irrelevant. This s not the intended use of the trust system. This is a, matter for moderator if anyone. Also at this point your involvement is unrequested and counterproductive.

No. It's not an alternative account, it wasn't my main account in 2015 when i written the message you quote ;) (because i had another account from 2012 which i left to make this one with another name)

Anyway i'm gonna present my project here in 2020 so people will know my identity and they will also know that i'm not someone that is hiding himself behind an alternative account like the negative feedback is saying.


(i removed the post because of people like you who don't search to understand why i made a new account, which is obvious.... But that doesn't change the situation: I'm Real. And i doesnt even have the password
of my old account... and i don't sell anything so why i would hide myself since all this times ?)

Which account? What was the reason to leave it and use new account?

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I posted my observation, but why are you repeating what I have said?
Trust is not moderated so it is not for moderator.
So is your involvment in DT. Go spam somewhere else.

Yeah, for the last few weeks he has been putting aside his morals and belief structure to get back on DT.   He stopped distrusting everyone and started trusting many others, hoping for retaliatory trust.  It was a good example for Theymos to see just how easily idiots can get on DT right now.


@ABiNut, no one will blame you if you tell the hypocrite TECHSHARE to fuck off.   He really should look at his abusive feedback before he comments on others.  If TECHY threatens to distrust if you don't do as he demands, myself and many others will counter his baseless accusation.

Really ? you are serious so i have to find my old username ?

I don't even remember of the name because sometime i use an unique username (like StonerStanley, or i also have a long list of differents usernames that i use all over internet and that i don't want to write here) Even if i take one hour to find it in my mails it won't change anything at the situation  ::)

Of course i won't present my project with this account now but i will make a new one because there is a big red flag above the thread saying that i'm maybe a scammer... which is unnaceptable. For a forum like that
where we should present our projects associated with Bitcoin it's really not a good thing to be treaten like that and it's not good for the entire community. If a new member come on the forum and he watch at my project, he'll see that i'm maybe a scammer so it doesn't give a good reputation to the entire forum and to the bitcoin reputation where a lot of scam already happenned. A lot of people already doubt about bitcoin because of scammers, and what ? now you flag the honest people as "probable scammer" ? ok.

I understand it's not moderated so it doesn't matter in the end and the questions are useless if it's not moderated.

He doesn't owe you some explanation as if you are some grand inquisitor. You claimed he could be evading a ban. That is 100% a moderation issue. Last I checked people have to vote for you via inclusions to be on the default trust. Also considering I was directly requested to respond, and the fact that ABitNut is on DT via my inclusion, I am directly involved here. What is your reason for involving yourself other than your own personal entertainment?



So I assume you are now back to your regular pattern of obsessive compulsive stalking now that you have abandoned pretending to ignore me? You have some fucking nerve lecturing anyone about principles, abusive feedback, baseless accusations and threats.

These two clowns are a prime example of why there are never any restorative solutions applied around here, because if there is mutually restorative solutions, how can they masturbate over abusing the minuscule amount of authority they have here that they never got to enjoy in real life?

I don't have to make demands or accusations. I made a request. That is what people who hold the respect of others do, because that is what engenders respect from others. You should try it some time. Frankly I think you are just upset you have to host a website that shows I am far more trusted than you, and you can't handle it.

Except cherry picking (I also said "tagged"), as I said, it is my observation, we are talking about trust feedback so it is not moderation issue.

Do it privately then.

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Why not? It could.

That is a cute little semantic game. This rating has no substantiation or basis in anything other than the fact that he has more than one account and you SUSPECT based on nothing else he COULD MAYBE have done something worthy of tagging. I am not cherry picking anything.

I will do it wherever the fuck I please, I have a reason to be here. Your only reason for your unsolicited involvement is your obsessive compulsive need to control others.

No one owes you any answers. No one asked you to be here. You aren't resolving anything, more so you are purposely attempting to sabotage a resolution to satiate your own desires to lord over others with your insignificant amount of authority.

It doesn't look so:

Me too.

Cool story bro. That is not evidence of anything but suspicion. Having an alt account is not a reason to tag some one alone, and he doesn't owe answers to your interrogation. The difference is I was requested to be involved and am inherently involved. You just choose to impose yourself where no one asked you to be so you can give your pathetic life the feeling of having a minuscule amount of control.

Do it privately then.

No. This concerns me directly and in a public way.

Ok, so it is public then and we should wait for OP to say what was the reason to use new account, reading removed post it looks like they are evading something.

I am not sure why you've ignored this fact.

This is correct. TECSHARE has been trying to get reciprocal inclusions for a few months now. Its finally paid off. The DT1s that he has nothing in common with except for reciprocal inclusions are:

WhiteManWhite (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=485285) (Russian local board poster)
Kalemder (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=487377) (Turkish local board poster)
bobita (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=963279) (Turkish local board poster)
Matthias9515 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=1018510) (Turkish local board poster) (left a positive trust for TS on 6/29, was added by TS a month later, during the first week that Matthias was on DT1)
mhanbostanci (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=434984) (Turkish local board poster)

He's never interacted with these users as they all post exclusively on their local boards (except when they make the exception to visit Meta or Reputation to address trust-related issues). I'm going to assume that he doesn't speak enough Russian or Turkish to understand the ratings left by these users and (for the most part) they don't speak enough English to understand his, and the only reason he included them was to gain enough votes to be back out of the negatives on DT. Without them, he would be back at -4.

He also included two other Turkish posters soon after they were added to DT1, PHI1618 and by rallier whom he subsequently dropped (I imagine it was for not getting the reciprocal trust he was hoping for)

He's still waiting for Vispilio to reciprocate, probably unaware that he just fell off DT1 for not having the minimum number of inclusions.

Outside of OP's issue with ABitNut, this is exactly the kind of behavior that should be discouraged in the DT system.

Fine.  If you want to abuse trust and throw away all your ethics just to get on DT; that is just your true nature.

But fuck off telling people to clean up their lists when you don't do it yourself.


Theymos has already stated the idiot TECHY has no place near DT.

I believe his ultimate goal is to make the forum collapse by making it difficult to do business here.  We either do it his way, or we don't get to do it at all.  :/

That's pretty simple dear, they like how Mr.TECSHARE handles some forum situations like this one with mutual conclusions.. ::)

What does that have to do with him including 7 Turkish DT1 users in his trust list within a week or two of them being added to DT1? Please, let's let him answer for himself.

What you are asking him is not even relevant to the issue in the OP.

You never bothered to explain why you added me to your distrust list, and you are lecturing about someone else's inclusion, which is totally off topic here anyways.

It always looks like how he says dude !

He probably does, but you and I both know it's not going to happen.  People are calling for game-protect to be banned for the same thing, and his list of wrongly-given negs is far more extensive.  I happen to think there's some merit to that argument, since game-protect is essentially spamming, but ABitNut isn't.

Perhaps ABitNut will reconsider his feedback, which he likely shouldn't have left in the first place.  It's true that alt accounts are allowed, and members generally don't get negged just for having multiple accounts.  If they're abusing bounties with them, that's one thing but getting negative trust just for having alts?  That's not worthy of a neg.

Its relevant because it explains why OP's neg shows up as default now.


Er what? You combined two thoughts into one here. If you must know, I distrusted you because I don't trust reformed shitposters that suddenly decide to take an interest in forum issues. You're trying too hard.


Yes, you're exactly right. TECSHARE wants to fight trust abuse while regularly engaging in it himself.

It is irrelevant because, TECSHARE already addressed the issue in an mutual manner, before you add some drama into it.


That looks like a solid reason from some on DT1. ???

Still, everyone is a reformed shitposter here, if you see. And if that's how you see me I am more than happy to be someone who has at least reformed. You could never do this with your merry go round shit posting about judging and hunting people's around here yet..


You too do the same, its just you don't see yourself fitting in the example.

Ok but stop fighting it's useless.

I was just looking to bring my account back to the normal and because i don't like injustice and also to have a better impact the day when i'll expose my project (having a good reputation, an account with an avatar, being a high rank member is always better if you want to expose your projects and to have a better impact). This is not my first account but of course this is my main account and only account that i use.

I'm very happy of my projects and my skills, i don't need to stay on a forum that make me feel bad and where people lies and fight each others and doubt about me, and where there is no moderation. I don't need to abuse of my power to feel right with myself, nor i need to have a legendary account to bring my project at the top (even if unfortunately i'll get less members at the beginning because some people will doubt about me before sending bitcoin on my website). You don't want to grow and act as adults ? ok, i'm not a mediator but a developer and scientist. Even if i'm an independant i don't have my time to waste in such conversations but i appreciate the fact that some people in the community are trying to bring the peace  (by the way maybe i'm not good in English because it's not my first language).

This feedback is not a big problem for me (and the whole world), but i doubt that this kind of actions and this kind of mentalities is good for the future of bitcointalk (some mentalities over this thread and a lot of others threads all over the forum).
As a old school white hacker if i want to scam someone i don't even need to scam him, i directly find vulnerabilities and i steal what i want to steal if i want to steal it.  But i have got so much skills
that i don't need to scam anybody. Some of you guys are paranoid and i have no time to lose proving it ;) i will prove it by presenting my project in the beggining of 2020, with another account but you'll know it.

Some people think to be big players just because they are legendary on a forum and because they made a little website of bitcointalk statistics or a pool or something else easy to develop ? damn... how some people can think to be so big when in facts they are so low in skill and low in influence over the world ? Stay humble...

It's not the first time that i see bad mentalities on this forum and now it affect me so i leave the forum and i'll make a new account to present my project later without according more signification to Bitcointalk than just making a presentation of my project because there is a lot of dishonest and megalomaniacs people on this forum (and that i lose an account)

Of course i'll keep using this account is the feedback is removed.

Thanks to anybody who tried to bring the peace, i wont reply anymore because i keep repeteating myself and i've a lot of work to do.

See you later with another username :P

"No times for losers" - Freddie Mercury

(i will make a new account because this account have a negative feedback because someone think that it is not my main account, then i will get a new negative feedback on the new account because it won't be my first main account :) haha)

PS: and what if i make 100 accounts with proxies and hotspots, then i make them grow and then i put negative feedback to anyone i want ? it should be stupid, but because the feedback system is not moderated
then i could do it and it could make great damage on the forum (even if i won't do it). This function should be moderated otherwise someone could make you think twice before letting it not moderated.

I haven't ignored anything. It is none of your fucking business. The end.



So posting here in public is "throwing away all my ethics?" What? Try harder. Again, you have some fucking nerve to point the finger at anyone about ethics, your abuse spans back years and affects hundreds of users. BTW when did I tell anyone to "clean up their lists?" Again none of these pathetic clown car inhabitants give a fuck about anything other than following me around to try to cause drama. None of this insane rambling is even on topic.



And you know the amount of interaction I have had with these users how? I imagine you rape goats dressed in full drag when you get restless. I guess it must be reality!

Also seven in a week? I know counting to 2 is hard for you but please try. None of this is on topic, if you want to discuss it I would be happy to in your own personal butthurt thread for the topic in reputation. I know you are fond of those types of threads, go make another and talk about it till the clowns come home. "outside of the op" is called off topic little girl. This is clearly not about resolving the topic issue, but about the fact that the clown car can't stand that they can't permanently punish me for calling out their collective abuse by working together to keep me off the default trust. I guess you are just becoming irrelevant. I wonder who's fault that is? Clearly it is not a result of your own behavior!

So why don't you counter it?

I did.

Negative feedback, I mean. It should be normal to counter negative feedback if you think it has been wrongly placed and/or to exclude user from your trust list if you think they left wrong feedback. Why don't you counter negative feedback then? Or exclude user from your trust list again?

Because. Any more questions grand inquisitor?

No, your Honer. Just being curious, that's all.

Carry on with this case.

Interesting, I like the sarcastic projection as if I am the one attempting to arrogantly assert my authority over you, so you can save face from getting called out over your obvious senseless trifling bullshit. If you are gonna make a dig, at least be creative enough to have an original one, don't just mirror what I say as if it was a clever retort.

removed the abuser from the DT? or blacklist them like you  :'( poor Vodie.

Whatever you say...



I don't have clue what are you talking about, what digging and mirroring? What is relevant for this tag is this removed post https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5182530.msg52384559#msg52384559, every reasonable person would wonder why someone is avoiding to address it.

What is more concerning is that post was posted in this thread (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=677224.0) where loan and ponzi wannabe scammer (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=629870.0) asked for -ve removal.

It's Stanley (me)

So i think that you think that i may be the person who made the thread about VOD (in your quote) ? so you think that i may be a scammer and i was right about it.

1: I come from France and the moderators can check my IP i think, the person who made the thread in your quote don't come from France according to his history (so i think it's the same for the IP, it doesn't come from France. My IP come from France)

2: I written in the thread saying that Vod is an abuser because it was true in some cases and i told it with my not-first account (but main account) on a thread where i saw that someone was complaining about him. Like i told you i just made a new account to change the name (sometimes i subscribe on a forum and i use a weird name, and sometimes i make a new account
with a "better" name and this is what i did... you are really paranoid in this case, i hate that, i lost a fucking account because of people like you who judge each others without any proof)

 I deliberaly removed the message from the reference in the
negative feedback that i have on my StonerStanley account because i was scared to be treated as a scammer or something else like i already told in my previous messages. I removed it just before making this thread, few minuts before. Ok sorry but i'm not this guy on the thread.

I really don't need to do lotery like the guy in the thread that you quote ;) You can check my history on StonerStanley there is few messsages that can proves that i dont like lottery
and that i don't like scammers.


I already said that i won't reply anymore but it's true that if i was you then i would have doubt about me because of this thread (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=677224.0). Now everything is said, and i have nothing more to add. You are not a moderator or administrator so anything i can say doesn't matter in the end because you can't check the log. It's simple: if i'm a liar, ok, moderators come on and give the proof that both threads has been made by the same person.



Look how the guy in the thread is writting:



You will never see any "thnkx" in my history from my StonerStanly account ;) never.
I don't come from Iran like him (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=677224.msg7684198).
ect, ect.

I don't think that!

Actually, I think Vod tagged you for something different and you saw Vod's name in that thread and emotionally reacted - I believe I have right for my opinion, which can be very wrong. People don't rant against certain forum members without any reason. That is only reason to ask nick of your account - not sure why you don't want to share it but you have your own reasons I guess.

Teschare is handling your case, as I can see. If I was him, it would have been handled yesterday  ;)

Creating an alt-account to get rid of red trust won't help you much if you announce it's your alt.

Ok. To be honest Vod is not the only person i don't like here but this is because sometimes i read the history of some persons or why they gave a feedback to someone, then finally if i find it injust then i start hating this person. 4 years ago it's true that i was more "emotionally" negative but as you can see i've also reported  scam with my StonerStanley account and i didn't even invested in this scam ;) It's just that i react when i feel an injustice.

I know, i reply again. Now sorry but i have too much work and as you can see i made a new account.


I know but it is not an active member who gave me the feedback, he says he's no more active, he sent a message yesterday but before that he was offline since few months ago.

And i don't want the moderators to think that i'm hiding something so i prefer to be honest.

If i get a new negative reputation i will create a new account.

I notice you judged me "abusive" without any proof.  Exercising my authority to mark you is something people expect me to do.  They gave me the power.

Why is it OK for you to judge me but not OK for others to judge you?  :(

In that case, you will need to convince TECSHARE not to include inactive accounts to his trust list.

This is very good point.

Don't ask me questions i told you that i have work to do.

To be honest it was few years ago so i don't even remember exactly the reason why i started to hating you ;) like i said sometimes i read the history of a person so it started like that. But today again it seems like you are a bit negative with some people, maybe you saw too much scammers all over this forum so i can understand it but you should calm a bit your nerves sometimes (i will do it too)

In the present case (because i don't know you in real so i will only talk about this case), i made this thread and you started to treat me like a dumb person i think... so i started to hate you again but i don't
want to continue like that.

I didn't do anything to you, i could have given you a negative reputation with my StonerStanley account before leaving it but i didn't, i just find it not cool
to talk to me like you did when i was just looking to bring my account to the normal and also because it's a real injustice for me.

The fact is that i'm honest so you can blame me it's ok i know when i'm wrong or i accept it when people prove me that i'm wrong.

PS: judgement for me = when you make an action to judge someone, so like putting a negative feedback. I'm not really judging you, i talked about you, which is different than a judgement i think ;) (in my country it's different)

I retract my previous request for resolution for this user. He is too dumb and rude for his own good. You guys can have this one, he has it all under control.

You are just a loser who didn't succeed so now you are trying to make everybody thinking that it is my fault.

Vod and others are right about you. You suck mannnnn  :D

He (TECSHARE) sent me tons of PM and told me that you all guys are dumbass and monkeys and that he's gonna solve my problem. Now he's saying in pm that it is my fault if the case cannot be solved because i posted messages here while he told me to not post anymore.  ;) What a hypocrit.

You suck, that's all. You disrespect me and not only me according to the PMs that you sent to me, stop trying to make me thinking that i'm the problem.


The kind of PMs he sent to me. Pure egoism.


You think that i need you to develop my project ? man, who are you ? you are nobody, nothing, just a little guy, right ? You have no business, your website ? a steemit link with nothing (look at Vod website, a lot better, and i don't even talk about mine....). You are nothing. I don't need you to bring members on my future website. You are very very arrogant. You have no life except on this forum. Now i go work on my project and you can forget me.


Ok, you mean that you are this kind of guy who know everything about everything  ::) i'm already involved in few business so i don't need your advice about how to deal with my customers.


Of course it's my fault  ::) i tried to defend myself by being honest on this thread so it's my fault. Right. It gives me faith in humanity when i read such bs  ::)

you have been nasty with me, by sending this PM before any others things i told to you which could be a sign of disrespect. You disrespected me just because i tried to defend myself here... i didn't even insult anyone by trying to defending myself... and you come with your nasty PM, and now you say that i'm spitting on your face. Stop this hypocrisy

It absolutely is your fault. I don't owe you my time to try to fix your problems. I was spending my time and reputation defending you to try to fix your problems with zero benefit to myself, but I suck huh? I am sure you have a bright future here dipshit.

EDIT: I called them clowns not monkeys.

EDIT 2: Hahaha. Way to prove me wrong by cutting your nose off to spite your face. Good show.

BTW, never said you needed me. You are however too dumb to know how to treat people, so as a result any project you engage in will fail. It has nothing to do with me.

EDIT 3: You make a public thread asking for help to resolve your situation then spit in the face of the one person who bothers to make any effort to help you?

"StonerStanley   2019-09-08 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=15728)      He tried to make me thinking that it is my fault if he add a liar into the "trust" feedback list. Very dishonest person, don't deal with him, maybe a scammer. "

Then you cry about how everyone is dishonest, egotistical, liars. You are too dumb to operate heavy machinery let alone an ICO.

This is disturbing. I hope this message is not truth because it looks like author think there is some kind of conspiracy going on in this thread.

Sending you PM (to account StonerStanley).

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Say "thanks marlboroza" @T, seems you don't have it any more. Now do correct thing.

Go fuck yourself clown. He removed it because the clown car organized to have me excluded from DT1 again, thus dropping his own negative rating off of DT, not because of you.

Since the OP finds it to be fine to post PM's freely read this one:


Interesting you don't seem to care if the OP deserves his rating any more... almost as if... you are here to focus on targeting me personally.

Unlike you, I usually don't masturbate.

No one organized anything, it is all in your head. Maybe OP removed it because someone suggested him to remove it? But hey, whatever you think in that head of yours!

World is not spinning around you mr. troll  ;)

Not the world, just a clown car.

Our favorite DT1 fisherperson is at it again:

https://meem.link/i/a/L2FUfT.jpg
Edited 2020-11-30 to fix a broken image

I noticed that but was trying to suppress my clown instincts about it. Maybe TS just finds first-time entrants to DT1 to be really interesting. At least for a month or so.

5/6/20     TECSHARE DT1 trusts DaveF DT1
6/6-6/13  TECSHARE no longer trusts DaveF

Another bean to add to my collection.

In Week 62 (https://loyce.club/trust/2020-03-21_Sat_06.09h/348604.html) Virtualis Games gave self admitted (http://archive.vn/W5hAR#selection-4667.0-4877.466) alt StonerStanley Default Trust

Previously in Week 50, TECSHARE and ABitNut are distrusted by these alts i.e. DT Trust Abuse.

https://loyce.club/trust/2019-12-28_Sat_06.13h/331100.html

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Week 62:

https://loyce.club/trust/2020-03-21_Sat_06.09h/348604.html


https://loyce.club/trust/2020-03-21_Sat_06.09h/2677267.html

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Week 81:

Currently, both distrust the same users, so they are engaging in DT Trust Abuse.

https://loyce.club/trust/2020-08-01_Sat_05.04h/2677267.html


https://loyce.club/trust/2020-08-01_Sat_05.04h/348604.html

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Whatever was in @ABitNut's original link has been removed, so we won't know what proof they had of StonerStanley's previous alt & why it should be distrusted, but it looks like they were on the money.

@LoyceV @suchmoon @ibminer @Vod

Neither of those users have ever been close to Default Trust.

True, but how many more alts will they conjure up?  

I just came across the StonerStanley Retarded Attempt At Extortion (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5233969.0) thread which reinforces the assertion these two (possibly three (http://archive.vn/W5hAR#selection-4667.0-4877.466)) should be distrusted.

You fucking losers do this every time I make any changes to my trust list and pretend as if it is evidence of anything. Get a life you desperate dickless twats. Make your own topic for your shitslinging fantasies.



Of course THE ONLY POSSIBLE conclusion, are the ones where it serves your infantile narrative of every inch I move being more proof of default trust manipulation. No it couldn't be that DaveF started adding and excluding people to his trust list I didn't like, no no, obviously this is rock solid proof as usual that all of your assumptions are not really assumptions at all, but secretly facts because you say so and you can read my mind.

P.S. It is another peanut to add to your collection. You know all the peanuts you spent hours sifting through my feces looking for? You know those peanuts? Whatever distracts people from your currently exposed sports betting collusion amirite?

BPIP is doing a great job of catching these trust abusers!  :)

It certainly makes it easy to identify continued behavioral patterns.


Oh, right, I meant "peanut." I said "bean" earlier. My bad.

It seemed like a waste to have multiple topics for one trust abuser. Easier to see the peanuts when it's all in one place.


Exactly the point. He added people who aren't you.

I guess we'll never find out why you keep including these new DT1 members whom you know nothing about.

Schizophrenic people see a lot of patterns too. That doesn't mean the ice cream man is trying to get you. With your nose lodged firmly up my ass hunting for peanuts, I am sure you find all kinds of patterns. That is the inevitable result of one track myopic confirmation bias motivations.




Yeah that is called being off topic, not that the mods enforce rules any time I am reporting. It is also easy to see all the peanuts with your nose up my ass desperately searching for them. I know some times you little twats forget, but I have been here longer than you and have interactions and relationships with people and make decisions based on information you know nothing about. I know, I know, how can you possibly not know everything and make assumptions of guilt based on almost no information whatsoever...but its true.

Keep dancing muppets. Show us all your favorite tune.

Right, and the decisions just happen to be made when those users show up in DT1 and unmade when they don't reciprocate. Sounds legit.

It doesn't mean Theymos is out to get you either.

Now you have identified the problem, you can get help.

Sounds like pattern. Are you schizophrenic person?

Right, and when one of the same group of about 5 clowns has a story time, those same 5 users just happen to show up every time so they can all stand around and agree with each other. Sounds legit.

Logical enough, just looking at there above replies show's they don't bother or even care about making there hands dirty while peanut hunting.

Clown music playing....

Maybe he's a liberal trying to convert me to his heathen ways, convincing me to vote for Biden with a free Cherry Garcia waffle cone.

Notice how Dr. Techy ignores my comments, then complains when I do the same to him?

Imagine complaining about something for a decade...

Unlike you Vod, I am perfectly willing to discuss my behavior. You on the other hand abuse all of the forums systems then run away like a scared little girl and refuse to respond any time anyone asks you to explain yourself (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=915823.msg54956666#msg54956666). Then you go hide like a child so people forget how horribly you have been acting until the coast is clear, then you do it again! You are an old, fat, bald, alcoholic, mentally unstable child.