Title: Ban evasion by scammy DT member - please permaban account - case #1 Post by: marlboroza on December 04, 2019, 02:17:58 PM Account the_doctor https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=512705
Account goraset https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=158678 Connection via twitter account: https://twitter.com/the_doctor18 Account the_doctor joined campaigns using this twitter: https://twitter.com/the_doctor18/status/906499320714842112 https://twitter.com/the_doctor18/status/905460236433182721 Oh, account goraset joined campaign just under the account the_doctor: https://i.imgur.com/INlbcju.png The_doctor used this twitter here: Hello dev. Please update my btc address to : 1AE2VENU4zH164LiNguR3BzQFNkLTVCF5x Bitcointalk username: the_doctor spreadsheets number : Twitter campaign #159 Bitcointalk link: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=512705 Twitter link: https://twitter.com/the_doctor18 Reason: Cannot sign message from the old wallet address. account goraset used the same twitter here https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1021399.msg14745611#msg14745611 (it is quoted but message from goraset surprisingly magically disappeared!) Quote thanks for payment, please renew Twitter account: https://twitter.com/the_doctor18 Bitcoin Address: 152Ks6R89h89iQL6z57KpoT8UpDVxgM6mo Recent Bet: https://blockchain.info/tx/57f74a6ddb656ebad54136e627b8dd43d4548513f866b84f26c075042b3c3c95 PM Bonus: yes Avatar Bonus: yes and here: joined artwork campaign https://twitter.com/the_doctor18/status/958404960919740416 https://twitter.com/the_doctor18/status/958404861732818944 TL,DR: Bitcointalk URL: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=512705 ;DUsername Bitcointalk: goraset Link to your Blogs: https://steemit.com/cryptocurrency/@criptoturk/la-revolucion-en-el-sistema-bancario-ceyron Eth Address: 0x54b4e3fb904AaDbf7D80aae42306B35B398e41D0 PS 2 https://www.walletexplorer.com/wallet/ebe405615e5d54ce/addresses and addresses which are part of that wallet: Code: 152Ks6R89h89iQL6z57KpoT8UpDVxgM6mo Goraset: Quote 152Ks6R89h89iQL6z57KpoT8UpDVxgM6mo https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1574127.msg15812476#msg15812476The_doctor (redacted): Bitcointalk username: the_doctor Twitter account: https://twitter.com/the_doctor18 Bitcoin address: 1MekS8gxhPbgdSAoRjn6kPdnGoVBysPHhK Alt account: criptoturk (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5206872.msg53258745#msg53258745) Source for banned account: https://bpip.org/ Title: Re: Ban evasion by scammy DT member - please permaban account Post by: marlboroza on December 04, 2019, 02:20:04 PM Reserved in case there is more accounts
Not sure if Dontcry. (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=193022) just copy/pasted previous post, but I'll drop it here anyway (quotes redacted): Twitter Link: https://twitter.com/criptoturk Twitter Link: https://twitter.com/criptoturk Surprise surprise, Dontcry. is also banned (I forget to mention that all 3 users can be found in Turkish local, so there must be something...). Title: Re: Ban evasion by scammy DT member - please permaban account Post by: marlboroza on December 04, 2019, 02:20:17 PM Reserved
Connected account: criptoturk: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1252009 Account goraset posted this (he posted many videos): Quote #Proof of authentication https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3479652.msg42182307#msg42182307Joined: content and video campaign Bitcointalk username: goraset Bitcointalk Profile Link: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=158678 Link to the content: Blog 1- http://criptoturk.com/2018/07/15/online-platformu/ 2- http://www.coinsistemi.com/ico/online-platformu.html 3- https://steemit.com/cryptocurrency/@goraset/hem-reklamsiz-hem-de-daha-guevenli-bir-internet-deneyimi-icin-online-platformunun-devrimsel-oezellikleri-ile-tanisin Video 1- https://youtu.be/0RMvXDDA01s 2- https://youtu.be/XEU6RBmG02Y Account criptoturk (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1252009) posted this: YouTube campaign Youtube URL: https://youtu.be/e_d1svjtsmA Following links, criptoturk (https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCK8W-SDrmp-IwggkAU7f4Sw) is account goraset's channel and ICO_World is account criptoturk's channel. Both have the same video stile at the beginning of videos, some spinning text and similar music, but, this is much better connection between them: Video on account criptoturk's channel: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d2WivRUZx6g Video on account goraset's channel: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DNuifgfWQVk Mr. Admin Sir, please watch both videos and please LISTEN! It is the same person speaking on both videos ;D Title: Re: Ban evasion by scammy DT member - please permaban account Post by: rhomelmabini on December 04, 2019, 03:19:38 PM <....> There's a probability that he just copy-pasted the recent post above him, anyways that is a banned user.How about this user criptoturk (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1252009), seems he has past merit transaction between the two above, probably merit abuse. See the reference of his bpip information: https://bpip.org/profile.aspx?p=criptoturk I'll edit this reply if I found something on my investigation, hopes this isn't a way meddling with your investigation, just want to help though. Title: Re: Ban evasion by scammy DT member - please permaban account Post by: marlboroza on December 04, 2019, 04:06:52 PM There's a probability that he just copy-pasted the recent post above him, anyways that is a banned user. There is also possibility that they are alt accounts, but I won't take this as solid proof, just observing things...How about this user criptoturk (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1252009), seems he has past merit transaction between the two above, probably merit abuse. See the reference of his bpip information: https://bpip.org/profile.aspx?p=criptoturk It is strange that both users misspelled "cripto", one for account and one for social networks, but it is not really a evidence. I didn't check merit transaction yet because it is almost never proof of anything, but sometimes it helps to connect some accounts, if not directly "A with B with C with D" then "A with B" and "C with D".I'll edit this reply if I found something on my investigation, hopes this isn't a way meddling with your investigation, just want to help though. Be my guest lolTitle: Re: Ban evasion by scammy DT member - please permaban account Post by: YOSHIE on December 04, 2019, 04:49:53 PM Surprise surprise, Dontcry. is also banned (I forget to mention that all 3 users can be found in Turkish local, so there must be something...). Do you really want to beat him up.Let's see how many Alt accounts he has. ETH address used by: Dontcry (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=193022), very clearly @Dontcry has a backup account. Proof: Bitcointalk username: Doncry. Telegram username: @serthan ETH address:0xfb0f37C0456d60eDEd9b64442dFB0C4847CdD06A http://archive.is/bS5kB Accounts Connected: 1. KenannT (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1277324) 2. heleloy06 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1974098) Proof: Bitcointalk username: kenannt Telegram: @serthan ETH Address: ]0xfb0f37C0456d60eDEd9b64442dFB0C4847CdD06A http://archive.is/d8ECI Link: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5178541.msg52395564#msg52395564 Quote Bitcointalk username: heleloy06 Telegram Username : @serthan ERC-20 wallet: 0xfb0f37C0456d60eDEd9b64442dFB0C4847CdD06A http://archive.is/uwvJs Miscellaneous: unless there is solid connection between Dontcry. and goraset. @Dontcry and @goraset. Using the same Twitter account, as you found in post 2. Twitter Bounty Report (01.01 - 07.01) Twitter username: @criptoturk Twitter Link: http://twitter.com/criptorturk http://archive.is/TpyEC Twitter Report WEEK (27.11 - 03.12) Twitter Link: https://twitter.com/criptoturk http://archive.is/1r7FO Title: Re: Ban evasion by scammy DT member - please permaban account Post by: marlboroza on December 04, 2019, 05:16:20 PM ~ Your finding is very good, but please, lets keep this thread for goraset's accounts, unless there is solid connection between Dontcry. and goraset. Also, don't forget to read edited post number 3.Not sure if Dontcry. (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=193022) just copy/pasted previous post There's a probability that he just copy-pasted the recent post above him Twitter Link: http://twitter.com/criptorturk Twitter Link: https://twitter.com/criptoturk Title: Re: Ban evasion by scammy DT member - please permaban account Post by: Timelord2067 on December 05, 2019, 12:46:57 AM ... Nice finds there Yoshie. *edit* Never mind: Found it: https://bpip.org/profile.aspx?p=the_doctor (Time for coffee) https://talkimg.com/images/2023/05/16/blobd536ca24deb693eb.jpeg Title: Re: Ban evasion by scammy DT member - please permaban account - case #1 Post by: wolwoo on December 05, 2019, 09:24:14 PM Konu self-modarete yazacaklarımda kısmen konu dışı ama bu başlık takip edildiği için buraya yazayım dedim. Meta da şöyle bir başlım açılmış, banlanmamı istiyor arkadaş, iki kelam edeyimde içimde kalmasın ban yersem https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5206872 Başlıkta bahsi geçen hesaplardan criproturk ve the_doctor u ben açtım. the_doctor u bir sürede kullandım . Ama bounty olaylarının hızlandığı dönemde birini kuzenime birini arkadaşıma verdim. İşi öğrenmelerine yardımcı oldum. Bazen aynı adresi iki hesapta da kullandığımız olmuş, bende başlıkta şimdi gördüm. Bide Dontcry. diye bi hesapla beni ilişkilendirmişler ama bu arkadaşı tanımam etmem, benim sosyal medya hesaplarını bountye katılırken kullanmış sanırım, muhtemel benim postları copy past yaparak bountylere katılmış. the_doctor hesabı banlandı, criptoturk de arkadaşta hesabı aktif kullanmıyor bildiğim kadarıyla. Bounty işi bitince geldikleri gibi gittiler. Bu yaptıklarım ban sebebiyse banlasınlar ne diyim. 2013 den beri forumdayım. Şimdiye kadar kimsenin beş kuruşunu almadım. Kimsenin zarara girmesine sebep olmadım. Aksine cakir, bobmarley, anancra, guwera fonlarında kayıplarım oldu, adını bile hatırlamadığım yerli bitshares üzeri dex projesi vardı ordan ufak bir pay almıştım battı, stunna isimli genç bir arkadaş vardı , borç istedi verdim , bir kısmını ödemedi, herşeye rağmen yerel topluluğun gelişmesi için maddi ve manevi katkı sunmaya devam ettim. Etmeyede devam edeceğim Tüm bunların dışında forum benim hayatımın merkezinde değil 36 yaşındayım evliyim 3.5 yaşında bir oğlum var. İyi bir işim ve tr şartları için ortalama üstü bir gelirim var.kripto paralar biraz hobi, biraz ek gelir, daha çok da eğlence benim için, ama zorla forumdan soğutuyorlar. Yabancı hesaplarla sidik yarıştıracak ne enerjim ne vaktim , nede yeterli ingilizcem var. Sadece sizler bilin diye yazdım. Hadi kalın sağlıcakla, Here you go I'm tired of translating, some of you Title: Re: Ban evasion by scammy DT member - please permaban account - case #1 Post by: suchmoon on December 05, 2019, 10:20:40 PM ~ tl;dr: Quote I opened criproturk and the_doctor from the accounts mentioned in the title. I used the_doctor in a while. But I gave one to my cousin and one to my friend at the time of the bounty. I helped them learn the job. Sometimes we used the same address in both accounts Cool story. Title: Re: Ban evasion by scammy DT member - please permaban account - case #1 Post by: wolwoo on December 05, 2019, 10:24:25 PM ~ tl;dr: Quote I opened criproturk and the_doctor from the accounts mentioned in the title. I used the_doctor in a while. But I gave one to my cousin and one to my friend at the time of the bounty. I helped them learn the job. Sometimes we used the same address in both accounts Cool story. "multi not forbidden" r u understand? Çoklu Üyelik Kullanımı Forumda çoklu üyelik kullanımı ile ilgili bir sınırlama bulunmuyor. Aksine kendinizi daha rahat ifade edeceğinizi düşünüyorsanız yeni hesap açarak ana hesabınızdan bağımsız şekilde yazmanız teşvik edilir. Burada unutmamanız gereken nokta bir hesabınız banlanırsa hiçbir hesabınızı ceza süresi boyunca kullanamayacağınızdır. Ban üyeliğe değil, kişiye veriliyor. "Multiple Membership Usage There are no restrictions on the use of multiple memberships in the forum. On the contrary, if you feel more comfortable expressing yourself, you are encouraged to open a new account and write it independently from your main account. " Title: Re: Ban evasion by scammy DT member - please permaban account - case #1 Post by: DireWolfM14 on December 05, 2019, 10:50:42 PM r u understand? It's not about multiple accounts, it's about being banned. When one of your accounts is banned, you as an individual are banned from using the forum. 25. Ban evasion (using or creating accounts while one of your accounts is banned) is not allowed. Title: Re: Ban evasion by scammy DT member - please permaban account - case #1 Post by: wolwoo on December 05, 2019, 10:57:25 PM r u understand? It's not about multiple accounts, it's about being banned. When one of your accounts is banned, you as an individual are banned from using the forum. 25. Ban evasion (using or creating accounts while one of your accounts is banned) is not allowed. So once it's forbidden, will it be a lifetime ban? Like burning coins? no return? Title: Re: Ban evasion by scammy DT member - please permaban account - case #1 Post by: marlboroza on December 05, 2019, 11:01:27 PM Cool story. It is always cool story. More accounts - more family members, sometimes pets are included. So once it's forbidden, will it be a lifetime ban? Like burning coins? no return? It depends on admin. Are you defending scammer again?Title: Re: Ban evasion by scammy DT member - please permaban account - case #1 Post by: wolwoo on December 05, 2019, 11:35:25 PM Cool story. It is always cool story. More accounts - more family members, sometimes pets are included. So once it's forbidden, will it be a lifetime ban? Like burning coins? no return? It depends on admin. Are you defending scammer again?don't provoke! goraset is a good person to me, I don't care what you think! 10th anniversary contest, DT1 memberships, source of merit... You're just jealous! You melting! these places were satoshi's legacy for you! you lose, humanity will win I also say again: don't portray yourself as the king of these places because you are not! Title: Re: Ban evasion by scammy DT member - please permaban account - case #1 Post by: suchmoon on December 05, 2019, 11:48:44 PM "multi not forbidden" r u understand? And ban evasion is forbidden, as you've been told many times. Stop inventing your own rules and try to learn something. If you're having problems understanding English that's not racism and not an attack on your nation. Title: Re: Ban evasion by scammy DT member - please permaban account - case #1 Post by: wolwoo on December 05, 2019, 11:59:08 PM "multi not forbidden" r u understand? And ban evasion is forbidden, as you've been told many times. Stop inventing your own rules and try to learn something. If you're having problems understanding English that's not racism and not an attack on your nation. https://i111.fastpic.ru/big/2019/1206/19/a205638503bd28785cc4a034ad495919.jpg (https://fastpic.ru/view/111/2019/1206/a205638503bd28785cc4a034ad495919.jpg.html) 1 year ago, the subject "new" as if it presents the search for intent. If you open a title about 2 Turks in 1 day, I'll look for intention in this. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5181723.0 >><Here we talked again you are doing the same things. Title: Re: Ban evasion by scammy DT member - please permaban account - case #1 Post by: suchmoon on December 06, 2019, 02:14:47 AM 1 year ago, the subject "new" as if it presents the search for intent. If you open a title about 2 Turks in 1 day, I'll look for intention in this. If 2 Turks are involved in ban evasion do you suggest marlboroza should expose only one of them? Which one? Or perhaps instead of shooting at the messenger you could care more about the integrity of the Turkish DT members. You're DT1, might want to start acting like one. Now that you have finally learned (I hope) that ban evasion is not allowed you can educate others on your board about it. Just a suggestion, without any racial prejudice. Title: Re: Ban evasion by scammy DT member - please permaban account - case #1 Post by: wolwoo on December 06, 2019, 02:19:51 AM 1 year ago, the subject "new" as if it presents the search for intent. If you open a title about 2 Turks in 1 day, I'll look for intention in this. If 2 Turks are involved in ban evasion do you suggest marlboroza should expose only one of them? Which one? Or perhaps instead of shooting at the messenger you could care more about the integrity of the Turkish DT members. You're DT1, might want to start acting like one. Now that you have finally learned (I hope) that ban evasion is not allowed you can educate others on your board about it. Just a suggestion, without any racial prejudice. for me the case is closed RETALIATE!!! MARLBOROZA HOW DARE YOU POINT OUT BAN EVADING PLAGIARIZING FUCKWITS IN DT!!! TRUST ORGANIZED CRIMINAL MAFIA THREAT ABUSE GANG BANG BANG THEYMOS SEE THIS!@wolwoo, first of all there is no gang, it is all in your head. Second, if I remember correctly, and my memory still serves me well, when lauda was kicked out of DT (was it last year?) actmyname and I re-tagged many accounts, including me tagging account goraset. It is not my problem if you don't want to read thread linked in reference and/or you have read it but you are ignoring that they stole someone's translations, presented them as their own and have tried to claim and/or claimed bounty rewards. Third, I looked at your trust page and I see that you have included me on this date http://loyce.club/trust/2019-09-14_Sat_06.11h/1003533.html so there is no chance that in the last 3 months you didn't see negative rating on that account, and you really never wondered why negative? Last thing I will say about this is actually a question, why have you included me if you think that I am "gang member" and you obviously don't trust my judgment? your job: mafia Do you usually trust people who you think they are criminals?kidnapping (from the forum) threat silencing organized crime network Yallaahhh @theymos solve this, I trust @theymos no more idle words because you didn't support the flag that timelord opened to us https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5181603.0 I thought you were a good guy and decided you were reliable. I wish this right decision would continue. but instead you've accumulated. In the meantime, you also sent me message. Foxpop's sad message was above that. Probably triggered it. DT1, 10th anniversary, merit source, etc. The reason I shared this message was to Foxpop, which added me to the distrust list. Why did you explode? There was nothing about you! Removed: Sigh. First I miss out on the art contest badges, now this. There is no justice.Foxpup https://66.media.tumblr.com/b82e196e4aa48d9027a8d5e89c3dffb1/tumblr_n8h788Od9R1rgs68fo3_500.png I think everything is very nice, birds, insects, water sounds, songs ...paradise https://i111.fastpic.ru/big/2019/1204/3d/83855d440ddeeb51fa729303fc9db83d.jpg (https://fastpic.ru/view/111/2019/1204/83855d440ddeeb51fa729303fc9db83d.jpg.html) I've been elected twice. thanks to everyone :)I think everything is very nice, birds, insects, water sounds, songs ...paradise Exactly, insects, you got that right, seems that I missed your post, so you are the one who included scammer and ban evader (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5206872.0) to your trust list:I've been elected twice. thanks to everyone :) https://i.imgur.com/dYtACqn.png Second DT1 account (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5206971.0) which included scammer to trust list is: https://i.imgur.com/XD5N3jz.png And yes, you will see me very very active because I am very very pissed right now. Fucking scammers and ban evaders becoming DT1 members. my message date>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>December 04, 2019, 03:24:05 AM your action: Ban evasion by scammy DT member - please permaban account - case #1>>>>December 04, 2019, 05:17:58 PM message you sent me >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>December 05, 2019, 12:20:16 AM Ban evasion by DT1 member - please permaban account - case #2 >>>>>>>>December 05, 2019, 12:28:29 AM who ordered this war? "Foxpup has rented my Avatar for 6 weeks now, and made the weekly payments with impeccable punctuality." https://i111.fastpic.ru/big/2019/1206/d9/aba280af6fba3d2df9999728594248d9.jpg (https://fastpic.ru/view/111/2019/1206/aba280af6fba3d2df9999728594248d9.jpg.html) someone rich enough to rent an avatar? Someone who doesn't want to get his hands dirty! HUH! Title: Re: Ban evasion by scammy DT member - please permaban account - case #1 Post by: Vispilio on December 06, 2019, 03:22:56 AM ok there are a few things going on in this situation which I believe the mods and admin should take into consideration before passing judgement:
1) goraset (he admitted this himself) did copy paste an entry on medium website for a bounty submission in the past (circa 2017), which happened outside of this forum, for this he got a neg rating from multiple members already, and this is the primary reason for the ongoing beef some members including Marlboroza have with him for several years.. He apologized for this infraction, said he was new to bounties at the time; what I note from that encounter is that he gave me some examples of many members back in those times, using copy pasted / plagiarized entries for bounty articles, and yet to his knowledge he was the only one who got a neg rating for an identical bounty submission... (I think the reasoning was that his own entries were submitted as links by other people and they got paid, so he had to resort to same in cutthroat competition of 2017 bounty environment)... I'm just pointing all these out for 1 time as context because lack of interest and defense by some Turkish members on these incessant dramas should not be interpreted as a tacit admission to anything... 2) the_doctor account: it's the first I ever heard of this account, but goraset recently gave a sincere explanation about this in Turkish which some members have already translated in part, take it for what it's worth. 3) All in all goraset strikes me as an intelligent rational human being with diverse and net positive contributions to the forum. He has made a mistake in the past, which he paid for by being blacklisted from bounties for 2-3 years (and counting). The fact remains that especially during bull runs, the bounties become extremely significant income sources in many parts of the developing world. It's not so outlandish and bizarre as some might think, that in these cases some knowledgeable members invite their brothers, cousins, close friends, wives and girlfriends :) to open new accounts and partake from the financial potential presented by the crypto space. If later one of these side / alt / indirectly related accounts or whatever you call it makes a dire mistake and gets banned, should you go hunting the original account owner, who introduced all these people into the world of crypto currencies, and make him suffer as well ?.. This seems to be the most likely scenario in goraset's case, although it's not my style to pursue these details like an obsessed detective, so it's up to the staff & admin to decide naturally. All the Best Title: Re: Ban evasion by scammy DT member - please permaban account - case #1 Post by: wolwoo on December 06, 2019, 03:34:43 AM ok there are a few things going on in this situation which I believe the mods and admin should take into consideration before passing judgement: 1) goraset (he admitted this himself) did copy paste an entry on medium website for a bounty submission in the past (circa 2017), which happened outside of this forum, for this he got a neg rating from multiple members already, and this is the primary reason for the ongoing beef some members including Marlboroza have with him for several years.. He apologized for this infraction, said he was new to bounties at the time; what I note from that encounter is that he gave me some examples of many members back in those times, using copy pasted / plagiarized entries for bounty articles, and yet to his knowledge he was the only one who got a neg rating for an identical bounty submission... (I think the reasoning was that his own entries were submitted as links by other people and they got paid, so he had to resort to same in cutthroat competition of 2017 bounty environment)... I'm just pointing all these out for 1 time as context because lack of interest and defense by some Turkish members on these incessant dramas should not be interpreted as a tacit admission to anything... 2) the_doctor account: it's the first I ever heard of this account, but goraset recently gave a sincere explanation about this in Turkish which some members have already translated in part, take it for what it's worth. 3) All in all goraset strikes me as an intelligent rational human being with diverse and net positive contributions to the forum. He has made a mistake in the past, which he paid for by being blacklisted from bounties for 2-3 years (and counting). The fact remains that especially during bull runs, the bounties become extremely significant income sources in many parts of the developing world. It's not so outlandish and bizarre as some might think, that in these cases some knowledgeable members invite their brothers, cousins, close friends, wives and girlfriends :) to open new accounts and partake from the financial potential presented by the crypto space. If later one of these side / alt / indirectly related accounts or whatever you call it makes a dire mistake and gets banned, should you go hunting the original account owner, who introduced all these people into the world of crypto currencies, and make him suffer as well ?.. This seems to be the most likely scenario in goraset's case, although it's not my style to pursue these details like an obsessed detective, so it's up to the staff & admin to decide naturally. All the Best very nice @Vispilio :) I hope @goraset will remain and benefit from your friendship, knowledge and experience. I haven't merit, sorry bro :'( https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5205906.0 ;) Title: Re: Ban evasion by scammy DT member - please permaban account - case #1 Post by: suchmoon on December 06, 2019, 03:38:23 AM He apologized for this infraction Definitely not copy and paste, only some of the sentences are similar, same project and similar sentences, it's normal I think Which part of that sounds like an apology? Or is this the apology? https://meem.link/i/a/vFwZC0.jpg Edited 2020-11-30 to fix a broken image Or did he apologize (for something he definitely didn't do) at some point later somewhere else, where the affected parties can't see it perhaps? Title: Re: Ban evasion by scammy DT member - please permaban account - case #1 Post by: marlboroza on December 06, 2019, 06:26:54 PM So scammer and liar writes text wall and some users take that as a proof that they are telling the truth 8)
1) goraset (he admitted this himself) did copy paste an entry on medium website for a bounty submission in the past (circa 2017), which happened outside of this forum ...something mday used to say.1) goraset (he admitted this himself) did copy paste an entry on medium website for a bounty submission So you didn't read thread? They did not admit anything and it was more than one case of stealing.Side note: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5196651.msg52907237#msg52907237. No merit for 3 high-level connected accounts(cheating, plagiarism, ban) ? Double standards! :P ~ Oh, why bothering with anything here, smart person once said:Quote if you are going to take a large system with includes scammers, and you decentralize that system's trust, some of those scammers are going to wind up on default trust. Source: possibly KWH (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=70535)https://i.imgur.com/eLHNPbY.png source: bpip.org I can't find threads and 2 posts worth 50 + 10 merits: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2002907.msg30794935#msg30794935 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2932403.msg26690120#msg26690120 Does anyone know why are threads removed and 2 posts worth many merits disappeared? I would like to read post worth 50 merits, it must be great post! Title: Re: Ban evasion by scammy DT member - please permaban account - case #1 Post by: suchmoon on December 06, 2019, 07:07:30 PM Does anyone know why are threads removed and 2 posts worth many merits disappeared? I would like to read post worth 50 merits, it must be great post! "Sending merits to a cousin and a friend is not forbidden" Just saving our Turkish friends some time here so that they don't have to type that excuse. Title: Re: Ban evasion by scammy DT member - please permaban account - case #1 Post by: suchmoon on December 06, 2019, 07:45:39 PM everyone in the same position What position? Everyone sends 50 merits to their cousin? Is LTU_btc my alt? Try spending more than 30 seconds on your next post and figure out an excuse for goraset without resorting to fallacies. I bet you can't do it. Title: Re: Ban evasion by scammy DT member - please permaban account - case #1 Post by: marlboroza on December 06, 2019, 07:49:54 PM Great analogy! ::)
Title: Re: Ban evasion by scammy DT member - please permaban account - case #1 Post by: wolwoo on December 06, 2019, 07:54:23 PM everyone in the same position What position? Everyone sends 50 merits to their cousin? Is LTU_btc my alt? Try spending more than 30 seconds on your next post and figure out an excuse for goraset without resorting to fallacies. I bet you can't do it. Does anyone know why are threads removed and 2 posts worth many merits disappeared? I would like to read post worth 50 merits, it must be great post! "Sending merits to a cousin and a friend is not forbidden" Just saving our Turkish friends some time here so that they don't have to type that excuse. you may not have a alt account (maybe) they know (marlboroza and timelord) I have been accused of a lot of You're talking about sending it to your "friend and cousin", you're kidding for turkish "friends" then you send 50 merits to an ordinary message there is also no difference between sending pieces and sending them all at once https://bpip.org/profile.aspx?p=suchmoon https://i111.fastpic.ru/big/2019/1206/26/f58713d43e538cc3ae7fa42f14350426.jpg (https://fastpic.ru/view/111/2019/1206/f58713d43e538cc3ae7fa42f14350426.jpg.html) Title: Re: Ban evasion by scammy DT member - please permaban account - case #1 Post by: marlboroza on December 06, 2019, 08:06:34 PM you may not have a alt account (maybe) they know (marlboroza and timelord) Perhaps you should go to thread where someone accused you of being someone's alt account to talk about accusation about being someone's alt account.I have been accused of a lot of Stop spamming this thread for yoshit signature purposes. I just figured that I missed something in this post: tl;dr: Cousin/friend has the same voice as goraset (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5206872.msg53258745#msg53258745)? :oQuote I opened criproturk and the_doctor from the accounts mentioned in the title. I used the_doctor in a while. But I gave one to my cousin and one to my friend at the time of the bounty. I helped them learn the job. Sometimes we used the same address in both accounts Cool story. Title: Re: Ban evasion by scammy DT member - please permaban account - case #1 Post by: suchmoon on December 06, 2019, 08:09:16 PM without resorting to fallacies. I bet you can't do it. whataboutism non sequitur false equivalence I win, pay up. Title: Re: Ban evasion by scammy DT member - please permaban account - case #1 Post by: wolwoo on December 06, 2019, 08:13:20 PM Stop spamming this thread for yoshit signature purposes. today 34th my post this is 35. If you write it properly, I will take care of it. avoid accusations that do not give you the right to answer. Title: Re: Ban evasion by scammy DT member - please permaban account - case #1 Post by: marlboroza on December 06, 2019, 08:21:39 PM yobit's signature requires 5 posts daily Fair enough. You have exceeded your daily post quota so see you tomorrow then.today 34th my post this is 35. Title: Re: Ban evasion by scammy DT member - please permaban account - case #1 Post by: wolwoo on December 06, 2019, 08:24:33 PM without resorting to fallacies. I bet you can't do it. whataboutism non sequitur false equivalence I win, pay up. I remember seeing similar activity calculator few years, but now I can't find, maybe it doesn't works anymore. After release of merit system, activity isn't such important thing anymore, but it's still interesting to check estimated date when you can rank up. So, thanks for making it. One fun thing related to this topic - theymos told that I would have received Legendary status at lowest possible activity. So, I was just one week away from Legendary rank when merit system was released lol. Where is 50 merit quality? yobit's signature requires 5 posts daily Fair enough. You have exceeded your daily post quota so see you tomorrow then.today 34th my post this is 35. if you thirst..... Title: Re: Ban evasion by scammy DT member - please permaban account - case #1 Post by: suchmoon on December 06, 2019, 08:37:43 PM Where is 50 merit quality? It's definitely somewhere in that post, keep reading and don't post again until you figure it out. This has nothing to do with this thread so in addition to your fallacious reasoning you're also breaking forum rules with your off topic posts even after being explicitly asked by the OP to stop doing that. Title: Re: Ban evasion by scammy DT member - please permaban account - case #1 Post by: wolwoo on December 06, 2019, 08:45:24 PM It's definitely somewhere in that post, keep reading and don't post again until you figure it out. hahahaha do you think everyone is like yourself? You asked for the account of 50 merits I asked too This has nothing to do with this thread so in addition to your fallacious reasoning you're also breaking forum rules with your off topic posts even after being explicitly asked by the OP to stop doing that. You will do anything not to lose your "strong" position here! but everyone sees and knows everything. Title: Re: Ban evasion by scammy DT member - please permaban account - case #1 Post by: suchmoon on December 06, 2019, 08:48:45 PM hahahaha do you think everyone is like yourself? You asked for the account of 50 merits I asked too I didn't ask anything. Marlboroza asked to see the post that got 50 merits from goraset because the post is now deleted. Have you provided the post? Please do that. That would be on topic here. Instead you found a post that got 50 merits from me. That's off topic regardless of how you feel about it. Here is the link of the deleted post that goraset sent merit to: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2932403.msg26690120#msg26690120 Title: Re: Ban evasion by scammy DT member - please permaban account - case #1 Post by: wolwoo on December 06, 2019, 08:52:26 PM hahahaha do you think everyone is like yourself? You asked for the account of 50 merits I asked too I didn't ask anything. Marlboroza asked to see the post that got 50 merits from goraset because the post is now deleted. Have you provided the post? Please do that. That would be on topic here. Instead you found a post that got 50 merits from me. That's off topic regardless of how you feel about it. Here is the link of the deleted post that goraset sent merit to: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2932403.msg26690120#msg26690120 Have a precedent in the judiciary, ask him to look at your own behavior when asking someone else maybe it was a very valuable message, but yours is worthless and we all see it. Title: Re: Ban evasion by scammy DT member - please permaban account - case #1 Post by: yahoo62278 on December 06, 2019, 08:53:03 PM Stop spamming this thread for yoshit signature purposes. today 34th my post this is 35. If you write it properly, I will take care of it. avoid accusations that do not give you the right to answer. Why are you the 1 speaking up for this fella and not he himself? Rules state if 1 account is banned, go away forever. If he has an alt banned, he needs to be the bigger person and walk away. Pretty simple. Title: Re: Ban evasion by scammy DT member - please permaban account - case #1 Post by: wolwoo on December 06, 2019, 09:07:17 PM Stop spamming this thread for yoshit signature purposes. today 34th my post this is 35. If you write it properly, I will take care of it. avoid accusations that do not give you the right to answer. Why are you the 1 speaking up for this fella and not he himself? Rules state if 1 account is banned, go away forever. If he has an alt banned, he needs to be the bigger person and walk away. Pretty simple. yes "cryptotalk" right! and upper limit 5 I replied because he blamed it. Title: Re: Ban evasion by scammy DT member - please permaban account - case #1 Post by: suchmoon on December 06, 2019, 09:25:13 PM maybe it was a very valuable message, but yours is worthless and we all see it. Report this merit abuse to theymos then. Now can we get back on topic? Do you have the post that goraset merited? It's a very much yes/no question. Let's see how valuable it was. yes "cryptotalk" right! and upper limit 5 I replied because he blamed it. I take it as a "no" regarding on-topic then. Luckily for you not-yobit pays quickly so you already got your 5 paid posts in and you won't suffer financial consequences once this gets cleaned up. Title: Re: Ban evasion by scammy DT member - please permaban account - case #1 Post by: yahoo62278 on December 06, 2019, 09:31:31 PM Stop spamming this thread for yoshit signature purposes. today 34th my post this is 35. If you write it properly, I will take care of it. avoid accusations that do not give you the right to answer. Why are you the 1 speaking up for this fella and not he himself? Rules state if 1 account is banned, go away forever. If he has an alt banned, he needs to be the bigger person and walk away. Pretty simple. yes "cryptotalk" right! and upper limit 5 I replied because he blamed it. To top it off, most of them are 1 liner trash. I'm ok with a user defending themself but this subject isn't even about you, yet you feel compelled to being the main topic for some reason? Just because you type 2 words and go down a line then type 2 more words and repeat, doesn't make it not 1 liner trash. 9 shit posts 6 ok replies. Grow thicker skin man and move on unless defending yourself. This topic has nothing to do with you, let the person it's about defend themself. Title: Re: Ban evasion by scammy DT member - please permaban account - case #1 Post by: wolwoo on December 06, 2019, 09:47:00 PM maybe it was a very valuable message, but yours is worthless and we all see it. Report this merit abuse to theymos then. Now can we get back on topic? Do you have the post that goraset merited? It's a very much yes/no question. Let's see how valuable it was. yes "cryptotalk" right! and upper limit 5 I replied because he blamed it. I take it as a "no" regarding on-topic then. Luckily for you not-yobit pays quickly so you already got your 5 paid posts in and you won't suffer financial consequences once this gets cleaned up. marlboroza spoke about cryptotalk, so I replied. Why are you in the position of prosecutor questioning everything. you're the one who talks to the "Turks". in the forum merit received messages are permanent, "delete merit from deleted messages" and open your request to @theymos. Why are you telling me? did I write the rules? You try to justify yourself by prolonging and demagoguery. I understand you, this is a "busy shop", and you want to keep your position. you are a useful member but for some You put a system in place and you don't want it to fail. You don't want someone like me who interrogates and opposes what you say. you have to be superior and you have to show it to everyone but you can't :D You're really lucky because my English is weak or I'd knock you out with my words ... ;) I respect my campaign manager and leave my words here. please do not give right to answer Title: Re: Ban evasion by scammy DT member - please permaban account - case #1 Post by: suchmoon on December 06, 2019, 09:54:52 PM ~ So you have nothing to say on the topic of goraset's ban evasion but you'll keep posting anyway? Gotcha. Good job trying to heed yahoo62278's advice by posting a couple of paragraphs although that's probably not quite what he had in mind. Title: Re: Ban evasion by scammy DT member - please permaban account - case #1 Post by: amishmanish on December 16, 2019, 10:35:25 AM Was trying to get a hang of this drama, Came across @wolwoo arguing over a 50 merited post with Suchmoon raising question on his giving LTU_btc 50 merits.
everyone in the same position What position? Everyone sends 50 merits to their cousin? Is LTU_btc my alt? Try spending more than 30 seconds on your next post and figure out an excuse for goraset without resorting to fallacies. I bet you can't do it. This is what LTU_btc wrote: --snip-- There have been multiple instances where lot of users go without merit because their posts aren't seen by too many. LTU_btc is a fairly idenitifiable member because of the frequency of his posts. He frequently used to post in beginner sections which means he was helping out newbies. He missed being legendary compared to his peers by a pretty small margin. Keep in mind that getting legendary status was a random event above near-about 700 activity.theymos told that I would have received Legendary status at lowest possible activity. So, I was just one week away from Legendary rank when merit system was released lol. I think suchmoon saw that post and judged from his post quality that he was probably short changed when it came to becoming legendary. Merit sources who have huge quotas often find it difficult to spread it to all the users they would consider worthy. I think Suchmoon did it as a simple shortcut. Trying to find 10 merit-worthy posts from the thousands would be time consuming. If he is a fairly known member, maybe he decided to grant him those merits. This is a subjective judgement that is understandable. Maybe consider LTU_btc lucky that suchmoon's eyes fell on that post. I won't say it is completely free from bias but it is what it is. Even TMAN proposed to offer a particular member 50 merits when he receives his refill. These are open instances of people knowing each other through the forum, not of people being relatives and then benefiting each other on the forum. Your meriting a user 50 posts, and then those posts getting deleted isn't really all that convincing. This would be considered pretty shady for someone who is a DT1. Also, the fact that you accepted that those were people you knew makes it pretty bad. Imagine if I am a merit source. If i made it a business to tell my family and friends to join and then merited their posts to up-rank them so that we could all earn more of "tokens", then that would be a pretty shitty thing to do. I don't know what you think Sathoshi wanted this forum for. What we do know is that there is a certain bit of idealism in that approach. There are elements of being upright, fair and transparent. Not doing things like copying articles and then calling it "Ohh, but its not a big deal, right?" Things that may be considered street-smart don't really make the cut when judged against uprightness. Maybe if you or these other people actually owned up to these shortcomings and mistakes rather than make excuses, there wouldn't be a need for this endless defense and excuses of racism/ national insults (LOL, seriously??). Don't make it about the country. From what I've heard about Turkey, its a nice country. This girl I know wanted me to watch this show that had main characters Hayat, Murat. Sweet, romantic stuff. I didn't watch past 3-4 episodes but the songs are good. Title: Re: Ban evasion by scammy DT member - please permaban account - case #1 Post by: wolwoo on December 16, 2019, 10:44:14 AM Was trying to get a hang of this drama, Came across @wolwoo arguing over a 50 merited post with Suchmoon raising question on his giving LTU_btc 50 merits. everyone in the same position What position? Everyone sends 50 merits to their cousin? Is LTU_btc my alt? Try spending more than 30 seconds on your next post and figure out an excuse for goraset without resorting to fallacies. I bet you can't do it. This is what LTU_btc wrote: --snip-- There have been multiple instances where lot of users go without merit because their posts aren't seen by too many. LTU_btc is a fairly idenitifiable member because of the frequency of his posts. He frequently used to post in beginner sections which means he was helping out newbies. He missed being legendary compared to his peers by a pretty small margin. Keep in mind that getting legendary status was a random event above near-about 700 activity.theymos told that I would have received Legendary status at lowest possible activity. So, I was just one week away from Legendary rank when merit system was released lol. I think suchmoon saw that post and judged from his post quality that he was probably short changed when it came to becoming legendary. Merit sources who have huge quotas often find it difficult to spread it to all the users they would consider worthy. I think Suchmoon did it as a simple shortcut. Trying to find 10 merit-worthy posts from the thousands would be time consuming. If he is a fairly known member, maybe he decided to grant him those merits. This is a subjective judgement that is understandable. Maybe consider LTU_btc lucky that suchmoon's eyes fell on that post. I won't say it is completely free from bias but it is what it is. Even TMAN proposed to offer a particular member 50 merits when he receives his refill. These are open instances of people knowing each other through the forum, not of people being relatives and then benefiting each other on the forum. Your meriting a user 50 posts, and then those posts getting deleted isn't really all that convincing. This would be considered pretty shady for someone who is a DT1. Also, the fact that you accepted that those were people you knew makes it pretty bad. Imagine if I am a merit source. If i made it a business to tell my family and friends to join and then merited their posts to up-rank them so that we could all earn more of "tokens", then that would be a pretty shitty thing to do. I don't know what you think Sathoshi wanted this forum for. What we do know is that there is a certain bit of idealism in that approach. There are elements of being upright, fair and transparent. Not doing things like copying articles and then calling it "Ohh, but its not a big deal, right?" Things that may be considered street-smart don't really make the cut when judged against uprightness. Maybe if you or these other people actually owned up to these shortcomings and mistakes rather than make excuses, there wouldn't be a need for this endless defense and excuses of racism/ national insults (LOL, seriously??). Don't make it about the country. From what I've heard about Turkey, its a nice country. This girl I know wanted me to watch this show that had main characters Hayat, Murat. Sweet, romantic stuff. I didn't watch past 3-4 episodes but the songs are good. yoo bravo you lick well :D maybe they give you 90 merit, they make you a hero ;) you deserve(!) it now Title: Re: Ban evasion by scammy DT member - please permaban account - case #1 Post by: suchmoon on December 16, 2019, 04:06:26 PM ~ The good news is that LTU_btc got 10 more merits for that post after wolwoo brought it up here so it's been a positive impact albeit not intended. I will continue to send merit in big batches to posters who are steady merit earners and need a boost for the next rank. Personally I don't care about ranks at all but some people do and if they are good posters I consider it my obligation to help them out, especially if our paths don't often meet for me to merit many of their individual posts. What this has to do with the ban evading sockpuppets - remains a mystery to me. maybe they give you 90 merit, they make you a hero ;) you deserve(!) it now I can send 50 max but thanks for pointing that out, much appreciated. Title: Re: Ban evasion by scammy DT member - please permaban account - case #1 Post by: wolwoo on December 16, 2019, 04:25:12 PM ~ The good news is that LTU_btc got 10 more merits for that post after wolwoo brought it up here so it's been a positive impact albeit not intended. I will continue to send merit in big batches to posters who are steady merit earners and need a boost for the next rank. Personally I don't care about ranks at all but some people do and if they are good posters I consider it my obligation to help them out, especially if our paths don't often meet for me to merit many of their individual posts. What this has to do with the ban evading sockpuppets - remains a mystery to me. maybe they give you 90 merit, they make you a hero ;) you deserve(!) it now I can send 50 max but thanks for pointing that out, much appreciated. Oh yes your men are precious, ours are not worthless? 90 if you call your partners. or give 40+ next month |