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Title: [Boxing]: Jessie Vargas vs Mikey Garcia
Post by: Baofeng on January 02, 2020, 11:09:42 PM
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Mikey Garcia and Jessie Vargas will clash in a Welterweight blockbuster at Ford Center at the Star in Frisco, Texas on Saturday February 29 live on DAZN in the US and on Sky Sports in the UK. (photos by Ed Mulholland)

Former four-weight king Garcia (39-1 30 KOs) makes his debut on DAZN with new promoter Eddie Hearn in the same state of his last outing at AT&T Stadium in Arlington in March in a bid to win World honors at a fifth weight.

Garcia, who turned 32 on Sunday, has now planted his flag in the ground at 147lbs by taking on Vargas, and the popular Californian will aim to make a big statement as he fights in Texas for the tenth time in an already glittering career.

https://www.boxingscene.com/photos-mikey-garcia-jessie-vargas-face-face-phoenix--145330

This fight is going to be explosive, but I will be favouring Jessie Vargas here. Jessie Vargas has fought Manny Pacquiao And Tim Bradley so he has the experience and the tools to beat Garcia. And this is the second fight that 'Mikey' at 147 lbs, he hasn't tested this weight class. So Vargas by UD. We will just have to wait what the odds are going to be.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Jessie Vargas vs Mikey Garica
Post by: robelneo on January 03, 2020, 03:02:14 AM
Please edit the title we have no boxer named Garica it should be Garcia, this is the second crack of Garcia in that weight category but he is putting too much on what he can, he is not Pacquiao with good speed and hard punch, he is a technically a good boxer, but with a very experienced Vargas, I don't think he has a chance of beating him, he will overwhelm by Vargas on this fight.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Jessie Vargas vs Mikey Garica
Post by: Vaculin on January 03, 2020, 03:07:11 AM
This is a good one, I then right away find the odds in the sportsbook like playbetr and sportsbet but there's no display of the betting odds yet.

Possible betting line https://www.oddschecker.com/boxing/mikey-garcia-v-jessie-vargas/winner
Mikey Garica is the heavy favorites here.. but I think Vargas do has a chance and I like the dog with the good odds.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Jessie Vargas vs Mikey Garica
Post by: carlfebz2 on January 03, 2020, 03:40:08 AM
My money would surely be with Mikey Garcia on here.When we do talk about Experience and KO percentage then its clear who do have the edge but doesnt mean that Vargas wont have a chance but this
wont really be an easy fight specially for a heavy puncher Garcia.Same as said above where the dog do have some good odds but i wont still risk up.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Jessie Vargas vs Mikey Garica
Post by: Questat on January 03, 2020, 03:56:16 AM
My money would surely be with Mikey Garcia on here.When we do talk about Experience and KO percentage then its clear who do have the edge but doesnt mean that Vargas wont have a chance but this
wont really be an easy fight specially for a heavy puncher Garcia.Same as said above where the dog do have some good odds but i wont still risk up.

You will only get 20% if you bet on him, maybe a KO win by him would give a better odds.
Based on the odds posted above, garcia is 1/5 to win this fight.

Update us some betting odds in here if anyone finds a site that offer the kind of betting odds.
For now, it's not up yet.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Jessie Vargas vs Mikey Garica
Post by: peter0425 on January 03, 2020, 04:09:47 AM
My money would surely be with Mikey Garcia on here.When we do talk about Experience and KO percentage then its clear who do have the edge but doesnt mean that Vargas wont have a chance but this
wont really be an easy fight specially for a heavy puncher Garcia.Same as said above where the dog do have some good odds but i wont still risk up.
actually for me?it wasnt always the capacity to knock down your opponent but the stamina that sometimes dictates the winner.

we have seen many fights that a knock out puncher losses the game because his opponent can stand strong the whole fight so in the end?it is the scores that matters and not their strong punches.so in this fight?i hold no winner but it is close one,also i am not a fan of both fighhter so i am gonna pass on this fight for betting.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Jessie Vargas vs Mikey Garica
Post by: Rosilito on January 03, 2020, 04:20:11 AM
You're a bit harsh to Garcia, you somehow underestimating him. Although Vargas already fought HOF Manny Pacquiao that doesn't mean he already got the capacity of winning over Garcia, Mikey Garcia got a 33 % career knockout ratio, holding a record of (39-1, 30 KOs), man his punch power were explosive. While Vargas holds a record of (29-2-2, 11 KOs), fair enough for a professional. They aren't far enough but I don't think this fight would be easy to Vargas, as he got a formidable opponent there. I'd like to bet on Garcia, still looking forward to his career.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Jessie Vargas vs Mikey Garica
Post by: Vaculin on January 03, 2020, 05:19:44 AM
You're a bit harsh to Garcia, you somehow underestimating him. Although Vargas already fought HOF Manny Pacquiao that doesn't mean he already got the capacity of winning over Garcia, Mikey Garcia got a 33 % career knockout ratio, holding a record of (39-1, 30 KOs), man his punch power were explosive. While Vargas holds a record of (29-2-2, 11 KOs), fair enough for a professional. They aren't far enough but I don't think this fight would be easy to Vargas, as he got a formidable opponent there. I'd like to bet on Garcia, still looking forward to his career.
The betting odds says about a real chance for this fight, fans could be bias sometimes because they are depending their favorite boxer but the fact that Garcia is the heavy favorites here, it means Vargas has a little chance of winning in this fight.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Jessie Vargas vs Mikey Garica
Post by: TravelMug on January 03, 2020, 05:52:47 AM
My money would surely be with Mikey Garcia on here.When we do talk about Experience and KO percentage then its clear who do have the edge but doesnt mean that Vargas wont have a chance but this
wont really be an easy fight specially for a heavy puncher Garcia.Same as said above where the dog do have some good odds but i wont still risk up.

You need to consider this: Garcia is not a natural welterweight, he is not proven on 147 lbs. Most of his knock-outs are in in the lower weights. So you need to be careful here.

While Vargas is a big an natural 147 lbs - 154 lbs. He might not have a knock out punch but he is a decent fighter in that division. He held a belt once, WBO, which Pacquiao took from him in their 2016 fight.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Jessie Vargas vs Mikey Garica
Post by: Reatim on January 03, 2020, 06:06:13 AM
You're a bit harsh to Garcia, you somehow underestimating him. Although Vargas already fought HOF Manny Pacquiao that doesn't mean he already got the capacity of winning over Garcia, Mikey Garcia got a 33 % career knockout ratio, holding a record of (39-1, 30 KOs), man his punch power were explosive. While Vargas holds a record of (29-2-2, 11 KOs), fair enough for a professional. They aren't far enough but I don't think this fight would be easy to Vargas, as he got a formidable opponent there. I'd like to bet on Garcia, still looking forward to his career.
i think it is not being harsh mate,since he is just stating the fact regarding both fighters capacity even that i don't really believe totally about the capacity of vargas as well.

i have seen Vargas in his very difficult fight when he defended his belt way back against the powerful fighter Manny pacquiao and he lose.

but in this bout?i think being a more stable in this division?Vargas has the advantage on this one,even Garcia is a knock out puncher.so lets wait and see what will happen next Month and also get ready for the bets.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Jessie Vargas vs Mikey Garica
Post by: Kemarit on January 03, 2020, 07:07:22 AM
You're a bit harsh to Garcia, you somehow underestimating him. Although Vargas already fought HOF Manny Pacquiao that doesn't mean he already got the capacity of winning over Garcia, Mikey Garcia got a 33 % career knockout ratio, holding a record of (39-1, 30 KOs), man his punch power were explosive. While Vargas holds a record of (29-2-2, 11 KOs), fair enough for a professional. They aren't far enough but I don't think this fight would be easy to Vargas, as he got a formidable opponent there. I'd like to bet on Garcia, still looking forward to his career.
The betting odds says about a real chance for this fight, fans could be bias sometimes because they are depending their favorite boxer but the fact that Garcia is the heavy favorites here, it means Vargas has a little chance of winning in this fight.

I don't understand the odd makers making Garcia the favorite. He last lost a fight against Errol Spence Jr, the first time he had ventured into this shark infested division. And he didn't fair very well as he was outclass by Spence. Vargas is no Spence, but he has the tools to beat Garcia here, quick hands, solid chin and obviously the bigger and natural welterweight, who has been campaigning in this division for many years and even fought the best (Pacquiao).


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Jessie Vargas vs Mikey Garcia
Post by: swogerino on January 03, 2020, 07:28:10 AM
When I bet on these events I only play few money on the underdog because in the end these are only two human beings and we don’t know what they really do with their life after training.The fight is won by the one who has more discipline and conduct a healthier life.Maybe the stronger guy takes it easily and thinks he will have an easy win and then a surprise can happen.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Jessie Vargas vs Mikey Garcia
Post by: bisdak40 on January 03, 2020, 07:36:33 AM
So this mean that Mikey Garcia is out for the contention of fighting Manny at least for now and the rumor might be true that the Pacman will be fighting Roberto "The Ghost" Guererro this May.

Though Vargas is the bigger fighter here but i would favor Garcia in this fight for his speed. Experience wise, Vargas has the edge, having fought Manny and Bradley is a feather on his cap though he was on the wrong end. Vargas lack the speed which for me is the vital factor for winning a fight.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Jessie Vargas vs Mikey Garcia
Post by: Questat on January 03, 2020, 07:40:48 AM
When I bet on these events I only play few money on the underdog because in the end these are only two human beings and we don’t know what they really do with their life after training.The fight is won by the one who has more discipline and conduct a healthier life.Maybe the stronger guy takes it easily and thinks he will have an easy win and then a surprise can happen.
Nice reasoning, besides there is no guarantee that the favorites will win and Vargas is also strong so he can fight toe to toe with Garcia, if he is lucky, he might hit Garcia that would knock him down.

that 1/5 odds for garcia is no worth, good with the dog and hope for an upset.

I am just waiting for the odds really and I'll see what I can shop in their


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Jessie Vargas vs Mikey Garcia
Post by: Docnaster on January 03, 2020, 09:35:32 AM
Vargas could only score a majority decision draw over the likes of Thomas Dulorme and Adrien Broner—two distinctly B+ class fighters. There's no way he's going to be able to handle Mikey Garcia, a guy who only lost once to the much bigger Errol Spence Jr by UD.

Let's be realistic here, Vargas is going to get whomped. I don't care if he's 5 inches taller, that's not going to matter much when Mikey is breaking down his body.

With that said, I'm not expecting a knockout. Vargas has been in there with some big punchers in the past and has stayed standing. Mikey isn't the hugest puncher, but he can definitely bang.

I predict this will go to UD in favor of Mikey, with around a 25% chance for a late knockout.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Jessie Vargas vs Mikey Garcia
Post by: Natalim on January 03, 2020, 11:00:16 AM
I predict this will go to UD in favor of Mikey, with around a 25% chance for a late knockout.

Yes, it could be the outcome, but a knockout is also possible as Garcia has a good knockout rate, of the 40 fights, he had 30 wins via KO so that is 75% knockout power while his opponent is not really a knockout artist so we can't expect from this guy,.Garcia has to come back and prove that he is back again even though he lose his fight against Errol Spence Jr.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Jessie Vargas vs Mikey Garcia
Post by: bisdak40 on January 03, 2020, 11:22:41 AM
I predict this will go to UD in favor of Mikey, with around a 25% chance for a late knockout.

Yes, it could be the outcome, but a knockout is also possible as Garcia has a good knockout rate, of the 40 fights, he had 30 wins via KO so that is 75% knockout power while his opponent is not really a knockout artist so we can't expect from this guy,.Garcia has to come back and prove that he is back again even though he lose his fight against Errol Spence Jr.

Those knockouts happened below the welter weight division. Vargas can take a punch and he proved that when he fought Manny which a hard puncher than Garcia. High probability that this fight would go the distance.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Jessie Vargas vs Mikey Garcia
Post by: aioc on January 03, 2020, 02:39:20 PM
Vargas could only score a majority decision draw over the likes of Thomas Dulorme and Adrien Broner—two distinctly B+ class fighters. There's no way he's going to be able to handle Mikey Garcia, a guy who only lost once to the much bigger Errol Spence Jr by UD.

Let's be realistic here, Vargas is going to get whomped. I don't care if he's 5 inches taller, that's not going to matter much when Mikey is breaking down his body.

With that said, I'm not expecting a knockout. Vargas has been in there with some big punchers in the past and has stayed standing. Mikey isn't the hugest puncher, but he can definitely bang.

I predict this will go to UD in favor of Mikey, with around a 25% chance for a late knockout.

That's a good prediction, some are predicting Vargas others, Garcia, both fighters are capable to beat any fighter, I go for Garcia here reminds me of Mosley small but a very technical fighter with speed and has a good counter, this has the making of a good fight and I don't think it will be lopsided just like what we've seen in some of the past fights.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Jessie Vargas vs Mikey Garcia
Post by: AniviaBtc on January 03, 2020, 03:33:38 PM
Vargas could only score a majority decision draw over the likes of Thomas Dulorme and Adrien Broner—two distinctly B+ class fighters. There's no way he's going to be able to handle Mikey Garcia, a guy who only lost once to the much bigger Errol Spence Jr by UD.

Let's be realistic here, Vargas is going to get whomped. I don't care if he's 5 inches taller, that's not going to matter much when Mikey is breaking down his body.

With that said, I'm not expecting a knockout. Vargas has been in there with some big punchers in the past and has stayed standing. Mikey isn't the hugest puncher, but he can definitely bang.

I predict this will go to UD in favor of Mikey, with around a 25% chance for a late knockout.

That's a good prediction, some are predicting Vargas others, Garcia, both fighters are capable to beat any fighter, I go for Garcia here reminds me of Mosley small but a very technical fighter with speed and has a good counter, this has the making of a good fight and I don't think it will be lopsided just like what we've seen in some of the past fights.

As you can see, from Mikey Garcia's record, it is a big factor to look on because of the number of fights he won. That's an strong evidence that he can beat anyone who he fought. Vargas is not enough to beat a 4 times champion. I also watched some fights of Garcia and his opponent really suffer from strong punches after the game. The height is also a factor, although Vargas is taller, Garcia is shorter, we all know that the smaller the quicker.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Jessie Vargas vs Mikey Garica
Post by: Ahimoth on January 03, 2020, 03:52:53 PM
Please edit the title we have no boxer named Garica it should be Garcia, this is the second crack of Garcia in that weight category but he is putting too much on what he can, he is not Pacquiao with good speed and hard punch, he is a technically a good boxer, but with a very experienced Vargas, I don't think he has a chance of beating him, he will overwhelm by Vargas on this fight.

Garica or Garcia, I think the op will change that sooner as he notice this thread with most comments on spelling. Now, let's discuss about Garcia's capabilities in comparison to Vargas, and just like what happened with pacman during his fights with so many top boxers. He was prejudiced with several analyst that he won't able to make it, but fortunately it was a reversal scenario Manny Pacquiao did it to winning by knock out.
Same with Garcia and Vargas fight, we don't know yet what's the future game so let's see what they've got in the middle of their fight on the ring.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Jessie Vargas vs Mikey Garica
Post by: joshy23 on January 03, 2020, 04:07:17 PM
Please edit the title we have no boxer named Garica it should be Garcia, this is the second crack of Garcia in that weight category but he is putting too much on what he can, he is not Pacquiao with good speed and hard punch, he is a technically a good boxer, but with a very experienced Vargas, I don't think he has a chance of beating him, he will overwhelm by Vargas on this fight.

Garica or Garcia, I think the op will change that sooner as he notice this thread with most comments on spelling. Now, let's discuss about Garcia's capabilities in comparison to Vargas, and just like what happened with pacman during his fights with so many top boxers. He was prejudiced with several analyst that he won't able to make it, but fortunately it was a reversal scenario Manny Pacquiao did it to winning by knock out.
Same with Garcia and Vargas fight, we don't know yet what's the future game so let's see what they've got in the middle of their fight on the ring.
It's good to see another fellow kababayan will have a good exposure fighting a much well known boxer, experienced wise Vargas have that edge
while with aggressiveness to prove something Garcia might bring something good within this fight, not bad to spare small money to show support
to this fighter and hopefully he will bring good outcome.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Jessie Vargas vs Mikey Garcia
Post by: ReiMomo on January 03, 2020, 04:11:36 PM
Vargas could only score a majority decision draw over the likes of Thomas Dulorme and Adrien Broner—two distinctly B+ class fighters. There's no way he's going to be able to handle Mikey Garcia, a guy who only lost once to the much bigger Errol Spence Jr by UD.

Let's be realistic here, Vargas is going to get whomped. I don't care if he's 5 inches taller, that's not going to matter much when Mikey is breaking down his body.

With that said, I'm not expecting a knockout. Vargas has been in there with some big punchers in the past and has stayed standing. Mikey isn't the hugest puncher, but he can definitely bang.

I predict this will go to UD in favor of Mikey, with around a 25% chance for a late knockout.

That's a good prediction, some are predicting Vargas others, Garcia, both fighters are capable to beat any fighter, I go for Garcia here reminds me of Mosley small but a very technical fighter with speed and has a good counter, this has the making of a good fight and I don't think it will be lopsided just like what we've seen in some of the past fights.

As you can see, from Mikey Garcia's record, it is a big factor to look on because of the number of fights he won. That's an strong evidence that he can beat anyone who he fought. Vargas is not enough to beat a 4 times champion. I also watched some fights of Garcia and his opponent really suffer from strong punches after the game. The height is also a factor, although Vargas is taller, Garcia is shorter, we all know that the smaller the quicker.
Overall, Vargas has a great advantage against his opponent Garcia, IMO. I will go with Vargas no matter what happened not just because he is a good fighter also he has the strength to defend his belt. But this fight is unpredictable and there is a high chance also Vargas were defeat by Garcia.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Jessie Vargas vs Mikey Garica
Post by: Mahanton on January 03, 2020, 04:15:28 PM
Please edit the title we have no boxer named Garica it should be Garcia, this is the second crack of Garcia in that weight category but he is putting too much on what he can, he is not Pacquiao with good speed and hard punch, he is a technically a good boxer, but with a very experienced Vargas, I don't think he has a chance of beating him, he will overwhelm by Vargas on this fight.

Garica or Garcia, I think the op will change that sooner as he notice this thread with most comments on spelling. Now, let's discuss about Garcia's capabilities in comparison to Vargas, and just like what happened with pacman during his fights with so many top boxers. He was prejudiced with several analyst that he won't able to make it, but fortunately it was a reversal scenario Manny Pacquiao did it to winning by knock out.
Same with Garcia and Vargas fight, we don't know yet what's the future game so let's see what they've got in the middle of their fight on the ring.
Its been mentioned on earlier post so its no need for you to speak it up once again about spelling errors and it is understandable that this was just a typo.

For those people who said that Vargas doesnt have a chance then i cant still conclude even though he isnt really that even when it comes to statistics but come to think that this is already on
different weight class which i do see that he do have the advantage.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Jessie Vargas vs Mikey Garcia
Post by: DoublerHunter on January 03, 2020, 04:36:41 PM
Overall, Vargas has a great advantage against his opponent Garcia, IMO
^ No, you are wrong. Mikey Garcia has an advantage here compared to Vargas. In all aspects that we compare, it seems Garcia's is the best among these two fighters and I will go and place my bet with Garcia. I show a comparison of these two fighters below and you can analyze who is the best fighters and probably win this match.

https://i.imgur.com/W8dplXa.jpg (https://boxstat.co/bout/2920284/jessie-vargas-vs-mikey-garcia)
https://i.imgur.com/2pOrZQj.jpg


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Jessie Vargas vs Mikey Garcia
Post by: Sebas.tian on January 03, 2020, 04:52:13 PM
Prior to what had happened in the world of boxing, I will like to predict in favor if Mikey G because he has out performed in many fight compared to Jessie V. Practically speaking, experience if consider will give a double edge to Mikey G, but the ring is a place where anything can happen to anyone on the ring. Jessie V can prove himself in this case because he's also one of my favorite. My bet will go for the best; as I await the surprise from the boxing ring.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Jessie Vargas vs Mikey Garcia
Post by: btc_angela on January 04, 2020, 10:28:53 AM
I give props to Mikey Garcia, it looks like he is going to campaign in this division. I'm looking at Mikey winning with a decision here. Probably his goal is to win against Vargas and then chase the money fight which is Manny Pacquiao. His first fight in this division was against the consensus #1 in the division so obviously it was a very difficult fight for him. But fighting a B-side fighter in Vargas, I think his chances are good.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Jessie Vargas vs Mikey Garcia
Post by: Hippocrypto on January 04, 2020, 12:46:37 PM
I give props to Mikey Garcia, it looks like he is going to campaign in this division. I'm looking at Mikey winning with a decision here. Probably his goal is to win against Vargas and then chase the money fight which is Manny Pacquiao. His first fight in this division was against the consensus #1 in the division so obviously it was a very difficult fight for him. But fighting a B-side fighter in Vargas, I think his chances are good.

A good chances is there at every opportunity, that only depends with the initiator who's the boxer himself. Neither Vargar nor Garcia would chases the money fight, what's very important in their career was hard work behind every rewards. Even how difficult it is to fight for good, the winner takes with him the honor not just form himself but also for his countrymen.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Jessie Vargas vs Mikey Garcia
Post by: Jating on January 04, 2020, 06:43:33 PM
So this mean that Mikey Garcia is out for the contention of fighting Manny at least for now and the rumor might be true that the Pacman will be fighting Roberto "The Ghost" Guererro this May.

Yeah, Mikey is out of the lottery for now.

Though Vargas is the bigger fighter here but i would favor Garcia in this fight for his speed. Experience wise, Vargas has the edge, having fought Manny and Bradley is a feather on his cap though he was on the wrong end. Vargas lack the speed which for me is the vital factor for winning a fight.

Not sure if Garcia can carry his speed here. But he has fought Spence, probably he already knows the power in this division and he can take it. Vargas lacks speed which Mikey can take advantage of. So it's possible that this fight will be similar to Bradley fight in which Vargas lost.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Jessie Vargas vs Mikey Garcia
Post by: virasog on January 05, 2020, 05:39:37 AM
This fight is going to be explosive, but I will be favouring Jessie Vargas here. Jessie Vargas has fought Manny Pacquiao And Tim Bradley so he has the experience and the tools to beat Garcia. And this is the second fight that 'Mikey' at 147 lbs, he hasn't tested this weight class. So Vargas by UD. We will just have to wait what the odds are going to be.

Detail about the two matches and you can watch them on skysports. It would be an great event and Mikey Garcia will be mine favorite.

https://i.imgur.com/R5YywHm.png


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Jessie Vargas vs Mikey Garcia
Post by: Natalim on January 05, 2020, 05:42:56 AM
@virasog... that's all I need to book this day to watch the game, I have this channel so I'll watch this one.

This would happen by next month so I have time to prepare for my bet on this fight.

Constantly checking on my sportsbook but line is still not available.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Jessie Vargas vs Mikey Garcia
Post by: virasog on January 05, 2020, 08:10:54 AM
@virasog... that's all I need to book this day to watch the game, I have this channel so I'll watch this one.

This would happen by next month so I have time to prepare for my bet on this fight.

Constantly checking on my sportsbook but line is still not available.

Yes, you can also mark your calendar so that you do not miss this match.

What do you mean by "Line is Not Available" . Did you mean that the sportsbook does not have a bet for this match ?


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Jessie Vargas vs Mikey Garcia
Post by: fortunecrypto on January 05, 2020, 08:55:59 AM
If this fight happens in 2019 this has a good potential to become a fight of the year, both fighters are proven Mexican all-out fighter, I'm betting on Garcia he is a very technical fighter with good timing on his punch, I see him winning by a split decision here, but I have doubt that he will be good in the welterweight division, that division is loaded with talented boxers, like Spence and Pacquiao.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Jessie Vargas vs Mikey Garcia
Post by: Baofeng on January 05, 2020, 11:38:23 AM
Ok, so by the looks of the comments here, others are favouring Vargas while other half is with the Mikey Garcia bandwagon. Lol. But I love the discussions, in means that it is going to be a good fight, maybe like the Donaire vs Inoue fight, very very exciting.

I just checked Sportsbet.io, there's no betting line yet because we still have a full two months to go. But that is ok, at least we can prepare our betting money as early as today because I'm sure, with the number of boxing fans here, it will be interesting what will be the odds and the ML with it opens.

@virasog - thanks for the detail.

What can you say about the undercard? JC Martinez vs Jay Harris?

https://www.secondsout.com/news/jay-harris-out-to-shock-the-world-and-julio-cesar-martinez-2959709


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Jessie Vargas vs Mikey Garcia
Post by: btc_angela on January 05, 2020, 10:48:28 PM
I give props to Mikey Garcia, it looks like he is going to campaign in this division. I'm looking at Mikey winning with a decision here. Probably his goal is to win against Vargas and then chase the money fight which is Manny Pacquiao. His first fight in this division was against the consensus #1 in the division so obviously it was a very difficult fight for him. But fighting a B-side fighter in Vargas, I think his chances are good.

A good chances is there at every opportunity, that only depends with the initiator who's the boxer himself. Neither Vargar nor Garcia would chases the money fight, what's very important in their career was hard work behind every rewards. Even how difficult it is to fight for good, the winner takes with him the honor not just form himself but also for his countrymen.

What do you mean? Boxing is a business so obviously, every fighter dreams of being a champion and soon money will come. And I doubt that they do it just for their country, they fight because it's a job, and they are paid thousands or even millions of dollar. Anyways, I still think that Mikey can show us if he really belong in this division and fight the best out there.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Jessie Vargas vs Mikey Garcia
Post by: smyslov on January 06, 2020, 12:26:15 AM
I believe Mikey Garcia can take Vargas, even Spence had a hard time knocking out Garcia, Garcia is a more skilled more hard puncher than the two, it will end in a split decision for Garcia as both of them can take a punch and good defensive fighters.
Both fighters will respect each other in the ring and will not try to go for slugfest.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Jessie Vargas vs Mikey Garcia
Post by: Kemarit on January 06, 2020, 06:56:47 AM
I believe Mikey Garcia can take Vargas, even Spence had a hard time knocking out Garcia, Garcia is a more skilled more hard puncher than the two, it will end in a split decision for Garcia as both of them can take a punch and good defensive fighters.
Both fighters will respect each other in the ring and will not try to go for slugfest.

We can't really say if Mikey is the harder puncher here because this is not his best weight class. He was outclassed by Spence when he first came to the 147 division. I remember Spence saying that he wanted to show his boxing skills when he fought Garcia so perhaps that's is the reason why he can't/didn't knock out Mikey.

Did you just contradict yourself? I'm lost here, they are going to respect each other in the ring? there's no such thing when two fighters are inside the ring. They are there to hurt and try to knock out each other out.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Jessie Vargas vs Mikey Garcia
Post by: BitcoinsGreat on January 06, 2020, 03:16:06 PM
https://i.imgur.com/AQ5jLGB.jpg

Still more than a month to go for this exciting fight.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Jessie Vargas vs Mikey Garcia
Post by: GreatArkansas on January 06, 2020, 10:50:49 PM
https://i.imgflip.com/3ld7wk.jpg (https://imgflip.com/i/3ld7wk) https://i.imgflip.com/3ld7zk.jpg (https://imgflip.com/i/3ld7zk)
Boxing records update for these two great american boxers.
Both are from USA.
Omg, height and reach are extrmely favor on Jessie Vargas but the records with 39-1-0 is favor om Mikey Garcia, much experienced. But still, this is gonna be a exciting match, with height and reach advantage versus on experienced advantage and age also.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Jessie Vargas vs Mikey Garcia
Post by: Natalim on January 06, 2020, 11:26:43 PM
@virasog... that's all I need to book this day to watch the game, I have this channel so I'll watch this one.

This would happen by next month so I have time to prepare for my bet on this fight.

Constantly checking on my sportsbook but line is still not available.

Yes, you can also mark your calendar so that you do not miss this match.

What do you mean by "Line is Not Available" . Did you mean that the sportsbook does not have a bet for this match ?

Yeah, I mean the line in the sportsbook is still not available, I just checked again, but still no line, it's a different Garcia that popped up, it's from a tennis game. lol...

I am just curious because fury vs Wilder 2 line was already up last year.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Jessie Vargas vs Mikey Garcia
Post by: coin-investor on January 07, 2020, 01:08:04 AM
https://i.imgflip.com/3ld7wk.jpg (https://imgflip.com/i/3ld7wk) https://i.imgflip.com/3ld7zk.jpg (https://imgflip.com/i/3ld7zk)
Boxing records update for these two great american boxers.
Both are from USA.
Omg, height and reach are extrmely favor on Jessie Vargas but the records with 39-1-0 is favor om Mikey Garcia, much experienced. But still, this is gonna be a exciting match, with height and reach advantage versus on experienced advantage and age also.

Mikey Garcia wants to conquer new territories, like what other great champions have done, but welterweight is talent-laden he knows that when he was beaten by Spence, on his one of interviews he mentioned he is targetting Pacquiao, because of the three welterweight champions, he think he has a good chance with Pacquiao, and Vargas will be his stepping stone to call out Pacquiao, this is my theory.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Jessie Vargas vs Mikey Garcia
Post by: rodskee on January 07, 2020, 07:48:47 AM
for me this is a match game,in all aspects they are seems to be Fair.

Garcia being Knockout puncher while Vargas is a Stamina fighter,if Garcia did not meat the knock out for Vargas then the score will favor the last one.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Jessie Vargas vs Mikey Garcia
Post by: Ranly123 on January 07, 2020, 09:08:28 AM
This match up is about even for me. Though Vargas has the experience in fighting top caliber boxers, Garcia on the other hand rely on power he has eventhough he has a height and reach disadvantage. I will be siding with Jessie Vargas in this fight though for he is more comfortable in this weight division.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Jessie Vargas vs Mikey Garcia
Post by: DarkDays on January 07, 2020, 09:06:54 PM
This match up is about even for me. Though Vargas has the experience in fighting top caliber boxers, Garcia on the other hand rely on power he has eventhough he has a height and reach disadvantage. I will be siding with Jessie Vargas in this fight though for he is more comfortable in this weight division.

https://www.oddschecker.com/boxing/mikey-garcia-v-jessie-vargas/winner

Looks like practically every casino disagrees with you, Garcia is the heavy favorite at between 1/6 and 1/5 on practically every platform.



Title: Re: [Boxing]: Jessie Vargas vs Mikey Garcia
Post by: btc_angela on January 07, 2020, 09:25:59 PM
This match up is about even for me. Though Vargas has the experience in fighting top caliber boxers, Garcia on the other hand rely on power he has eventhough he has a height and reach disadvantage. I will be siding with Jessie Vargas in this fight though for he is more comfortable in this weight division.

https://www.oddschecker.com/boxing/mikey-garcia-v-jessie-vargas/winner

Looks like practically every casino disagrees with you, Garcia is the heavy favorite at between 1/6 and 1/5 on practically every platform.



Yep, that's why this is a good fight for Mikey. Because this time he is the favourite and it seems that he has a good chance to pull this off before he can go for Manny Pacquiao or other good fighters in this talent laden division. Vargas advantage is that he is comfortable in this weight class however, he hasn't fight any notable boxers yet, except for Pacquiao and Bradley which he lost.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Jessie Vargas vs Mikey Garcia
Post by: MWesterweele on January 08, 2020, 02:14:49 PM
This match up is about even for me. Though Vargas has the experience in fighting top caliber boxers, Garcia on the other hand rely on power he has eventhough he has a height and reach disadvantage. I will be siding with Jessie Vargas in this fight though for he is more comfortable in this weight division.
My bet will be on Jessie Vargas, his stats is good, he won by unanimous decision in almost all of his fight, he is a stamina fighter after all, he defeated the great soto too for a knockout , he already show also his potential in his fight with Pacquio even he loses that fight. But if Garcia wins? I think im okay with that also.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Jessie Vargas vs Mikey Garcia
Post by: YuginKadoya on January 08, 2020, 04:55:13 PM
This match up is about even for me. Though Vargas has the experience in fighting top caliber boxers, Garcia on the other hand rely on power he has eventhough he has a height and reach disadvantage. I will be siding with Jessie Vargas in this fight though for he is more comfortable in this weight division.
My bet will be on Jessie Vargas, his stats is good, he won by unanimous decision in almost all of his fight, he is a stamina fighter after all, he defeated the great soto too for a knockout , he already show also his potential in his fight with Pacquio even he loses that fight. But if Garcia wins? I think im okay with that also.

For me as well I don't mind on who's gonna win here both fighters have their pros and cons and a rather match fight in my opinion but Mikey Garcia has a lot of supporters that he could beat Vargas in this fight for a more upper match against Manny Pacquiao which I think he might get a shot, but in my opinion, that he is too far for a Manny Fight but maybe a rather determine fighter can make that fight a win so who knows if he really have something against the speed and power of Pacquiao.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Jessie Vargas vs Mikey Garcia
Post by: joshy23 on January 08, 2020, 06:52:59 PM
This match up is about even for me. Though Vargas has the experience in fighting top caliber boxers, Garcia on the other hand rely on power he has eventhough he has a height and reach disadvantage. I will be siding with Jessie Vargas in this fight though for he is more comfortable in this weight division.
My bet will be on Jessie Vargas, his stats is good, he won by unanimous decision in almost all of his fight, he is a stamina fighter after all, he defeated the great soto too for a knockout , he already show also his potential in his fight with Pacquio even he loses that fight. But if Garcia wins? I think im okay with that also.
He's experienced will give him some edge but it will be a good fight for sure as both fighters have there own style, the advantages will be depend
from how the conditioning team will look for every single information from what portions of this fight each boxers will see the possible weakness and
attack positions.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Jessie Vargas vs Mikey Garcia
Post by: stadus on January 08, 2020, 11:08:28 PM
This match up is about even for me. Though Vargas has the experience in fighting top caliber boxers, Garcia on the other hand rely on power he has eventhough he has a height and reach disadvantage. I will be siding with Jessie Vargas in this fight though for he is more comfortable in this weight division.

https://www.oddschecker.com/boxing/mikey-garcia-v-jessie-vargas/winner

Looks like practically every casino disagrees with you, Garcia is the heavy favorite at between 1/6 and 1/5 on practically every platform.



These are fiat sportsbook or casinos, why the line is still not available on crypto sportsbook?


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Jessie Vargas vs Mikey Garica
Post by: bbc.reporter on January 09, 2020, 02:29:16 AM
My money would surely be with Mikey Garcia on here.When we do talk about Experience and KO percentage then its clear who do have the edge but doesnt mean that Vargas wont have a chance but this
wont really be an easy fight specially for a heavy puncher Garcia.Same as said above where the dog do have some good odds but i wont still risk up.

Do not underestimate Jessie Vargas. He is taller and bigger and they are fighting in his weight division, welterweight. Mikey Garcia was mainly a lightweight who might have become lazy on the weight cut hehehe.

In any case, this will be a good fight. The Nitrogensports odds on Jessie Vargas is very high on 5.23.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Jessie Vargas vs Mikey Garica
Post by: Vaculin on January 09, 2020, 03:33:00 AM

In any case, this will be a good fight. The Nitrogensports odds on Jessie Vargas is very high on 5.23.

That's how favored Garcia to win this match, this could be a great odds for bettors who trust on Vargas to win the fight.
BTW, thank you for bring the odds here.

this answers

These are fiat sportsbook or casinos, why the line is still not available on crypto sportsbook?

odds for reference : https://nitrogensports.eu/sport/boxing/boxing-matches


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Jessie Vargas vs Mikey Garcia
Post by: peter0425 on January 09, 2020, 03:37:32 AM
This match up is about even for me. Though Vargas has the experience in fighting top caliber boxers, Garcia on the other hand rely on power he has eventhough he has a height and reach disadvantage. I will be siding with Jessie Vargas in this fight though for he is more comfortable in this weight division.
yup that is advantage if you are fighting in the same weight for long time and your opponent is new to this are because hi must adjust and may change his movement.

Vargas is mine as well in this one even Garcia is a heavy puncher and known as knock out boxer.also the fight is enar close for them both has own advantages and disadvantages also.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Jessie Vargas vs Mikey Garica
Post by: Ranly123 on January 09, 2020, 08:59:46 AM
My money would surely be with Mikey Garcia on here.When we do talk about Experience and KO percentage then its clear who do have the edge but doesnt mean that Vargas wont have a chance but this
wont really be an easy fight specially for a heavy puncher Garcia.Same as said above where the dog do have some good odds but i wont still risk up.

Do not underestimate Jessie Vargas. He is taller and bigger and they are fighting in his weight division, welterweight. Mikey Garcia was mainly a lightweight who might have become lazy on the weight cut hehehe.

In any case, this will be a good fight. The Nitrogensports odds on Jessie Vargas is very high on 5.23.

As I said Vargas has the advantage on experience in fighting top caliber boxers but the only problem he has to exceed is the power of Garcia. Of course the odds is high because of KO % disparity of the two and like you, I won't fall into this trap. My money will still be on Garcia for this fight though.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Jessie Vargas vs Mikey Garcia
Post by: judeafante on January 09, 2020, 09:09:22 AM
This has the making of a great fight and Garcia can redeem himself, after that match with Spence where he was totally dominated, I don't think Vargas can dominate Garcia, he is not in Spence level, both can slug and can box Garcia has the slight advantage for me, and I can see him winning by a split decision or a knock out if he is lucky.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Jessie Vargas vs Mikey Garcia
Post by: Natalim on January 09, 2020, 01:03:37 PM
This has the making of a great fight and Garcia can redeem himself, after that match with Spence where he was totally dominated, I don't think Vargas can dominate Garcia, he is not in Spence level, both can slug and can box Garcia has the slight advantage for me, and I can see him winning by a split decision or a knock out if he is lucky.
But it wasn't the opponent that could totally match him, if you look at the betting line, Mikey is so favorite with 1/5 betting odds.
I think he can easily win this one but he was really exposed against Spence and that one lose of him really hurt his record.
let's see what this fight would end up but hopefully he can find a good match by next time where we can see an odds like Manny vs Thurman or Fury vs Wilder.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Jessie Vargas vs Mikey Garica
Post by: BitcoinsGreat on January 09, 2020, 04:24:19 PM

In any case, this will be a good fight. The Nitrogensports odds on Jessie Vargas is very high on 5.23.

That's how favored Garcia to win this match, this could be a great odds for bettors who trust on Vargas to win the fight.
BTW, thank you for bring the odds here.

this answers

These are fiat sportsbook or casinos, why the line is still not available on crypto sportsbook?

odds for reference : https://nitrogensports.eu/sport/boxing/boxing-matches

Other than nitrogensports  which other crypto sportsbook is offering betting on this match ?
I think you will find more fiat betting sites covering this match, then the crypto sportsbooks.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Jessie Vargas vs Mikey Garica
Post by: AmoreJaz on January 09, 2020, 10:00:24 PM

In any case, this will be a good fight. The Nitrogensports odds on Jessie Vargas is very high on 5.23.

That's how favored Garcia to win this match, this could be a great odds for bettors who trust on Vargas to win the fight.
BTW, thank you for bring the odds here.

this answers

These are fiat sportsbook or casinos, why the line is still not available on crypto sportsbook?

odds for reference : https://nitrogensports.eu/sport/boxing/boxing-matches

Other than nitrogensports  which other crypto sportsbook is offering betting on this match ?
I think you will find more fiat betting sites covering this match, then the crypto sportsbooks.

you can check also here = https://www.bet365.com/#/AC/B9/C20007979/D1/E148/F2/

https://beteasy.com.au/sports-betting/boxing/bouts/fights

both sites favored garcia atm. a challenge to vargas to train more. about 50 days to go. theres still room for training before the fight. sometimes it is all about preparation and focus!

edit : my bad, yeah should be garcia. lol


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Jessie Vargas vs Mikey Garica
Post by: Questat on January 09, 2020, 11:02:43 PM

In any case, this will be a good fight. The Nitrogensports odds on Jessie Vargas is very high on 5.23.

That's how favored Garcia to win this match, this could be a great odds for bettors who trust on Vargas to win the fight.
BTW, thank you for bring the odds here.

this answers

These are fiat sportsbook or casinos, why the line is still not available on crypto sportsbook?

odds for reference : https://nitrogensports.eu/sport/boxing/boxing-matches

Other than nitrogensports  which other crypto sportsbook is offering betting on this match ?
I think you will find more fiat betting sites covering this match, then the crypto sportsbooks.

you can check also here = https://www.bet365.com/#/AC/B9/C20007979/D1/E148/F2/

https://beteasy.com.au/sports-betting/boxing/bouts/fights

both sites favored vargas atm. a challenge to garcia to train more. about 50 days to go. theres still room for training before the fight. sometimes it is all about preparation and focus!

How is it favored vargas when has 4.50 and 4.90 on the two sites you shared respective.
I have never bet in this site yet, are they accepting crypto too? if yes, do they have a KYC requirement for bettors?


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Jessie Vargas vs Mikey Garcia
Post by: Fundamentals Of on January 10, 2020, 04:05:02 AM
Jessie Vargas has fought Manny Pacquiao And Tim Bradley so he has the experience and the tools to beat Garcia.

Does it follow?

Vargas has fought them both and defeated. Does that mean he is good to beat Garcia? I don't think so.

I am for Garcia in this fight.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Jessie Vargas vs Mikey Garcia
Post by: Baofeng on January 10, 2020, 04:34:30 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yRFHtPUbTLg - Garcia's Greatest Hits, (pre-welterweight division)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5IpEPW6R2pI - Vargas' all Knock outs (more of a volume puncher)

Still waiting for sportsbet.io to open up their line/odds.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Jessie Vargas vs Mikey Garcia
Post by: batang_bitcoin on January 10, 2020, 05:00:08 AM
Jessie Vargas has fought Manny Pacquiao And Tim Bradley so he has the experience and the tools to beat Garcia.

Does it follow?

Vargas has fought them both and defeated. Does that mean he is good to beat Garcia? I don't think so.

I am for Garcia in this fight.

I'm not following both fighters and the opinion of everyone here is what I'm counting for. I guess I'll take a look at the matches that they have before. It's also good to see their past matches, win or lose as long as you can see the performance that each of them did.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yRFHtPUbTLg - Garcia's Greatest Hits, (pre-welterweight division)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5IpEPW6R2pI - Vargas' all Knock outs (more of a volume puncher)

Still waiting for sportsbet.io to open up their line/odds.
Thanks for the link, this will be helpful to look at for analyzing them.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Jessie Vargas vs Mikey Garcia
Post by: Reatim on January 10, 2020, 05:26:25 AM
This has the making of a great fight and Garcia can redeem himself, after that match with Spence where he was totally dominated, I don't think Vargas can dominate Garcia, he is not in Spence level, both can slug and can box Garcia has the slight advantage for me, and I can see him winning by a split decision or a knock out if he is lucky.
each boxer has their own capacity to take down their opponent mate
 so never underestimate Vargas on this,yeah he is not a knockout
puncher but he can stand longer than Garcia so there is a chance
 that he can stay longer and win by points or being down by Garcia
at any stage.in short?the fight is exciting and a great year start for
boxing community.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Jessie Vargas vs Mikey Garcia
Post by: Twinkledoe on January 10, 2020, 05:42:05 AM
This has the making of a great fight and Garcia can redeem himself, after that match with Spence where he was totally dominated, I don't think Vargas can dominate Garcia, he is not in Spence level, both can slug and can box Garcia has the slight advantage for me, and I can see him winning by a split decision or a knock out if he is lucky.
each boxer has their own capacity to take down their opponent mate
 so never underestimate Vargas on this,yeah he is not a knockout
puncher but he can stand longer than Garcia so there is a chance
 that he can stay longer and win by points or being down by Garcia
at any stage.in short?the fight is exciting and a great year start for
boxing community.

This will be an interesting fight but I think I will side on Garcia. Let's see when the fight happens. I think once the fight is over, whoever wins will ask for Pacquiao's fight... :D


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Jessie Vargas vs Mikey Garcia
Post by: Cherylstar86 on January 10, 2020, 06:41:54 AM
This has the making of a great fight and Garcia can redeem himself, after that match with Spence where he was totally dominated, I don't think Vargas can dominate Garcia, he is not in Spence level, both can slug and can box Garcia has the slight advantage for me, and I can see him winning by a split decision or a knock out if he is lucky.
each boxer has their own capacity to take down their opponent mate
 so never underestimate Vargas on this,yeah he is not a knockout
puncher but he can stand longer than Garcia so there is a chance
 that he can stay longer and win by points or being down by Garcia
at any stage.in short?the fight is exciting and a great year start for
boxing community.

This year will have a great ambiance for the boxers like Vargas and Garcia, and whoever wins between them I still believes the capability of Garcia compared to Vargas. Even if others analysis won coincide with mine, I still stay infact on my mindsets. Sports is unpredictable, just like cryptocurrency, you might see some particular insights but not a final judgement maybe given for a certain boxer.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Jessie Vargas vs Mikey Garcia
Post by: rodskee on January 10, 2020, 06:50:58 AM


This will be an interesting fight but I think I will side on Garcia. Let's see when the fight happens. I think once the fight is over, whoever wins will ask for Pacquiao's fight... :D
certainly is because no Boxers now that dont wanna fight the greatest fighter taht active until now mate,all of them are wanted to be part of Pacquiaos Boxing Journey even before he Retires .

many of them wanted just to be with him in the ring while others wanna see him Down the ring without the belt or being loser.

so let us see what will faith brings these boxers.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Jessie Vargas vs Mikey Garcia
Post by: bisdak40 on January 10, 2020, 07:52:30 AM
This will be an interesting fight but I think I will side on Garcia. Let's see when the fight happens. I think once the fight is over, whoever wins will ask for Pacquiao's fight... :D

That's pretty normal to join the Pacquiao sweepstakes lol. If Garcia would win this one and he can get the nod of the Pacman camp to fight him, that would be the biggest paycheck of his career. He could retire after the Pacman match.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Jessie Vargas vs Mikey Garcia
Post by: Ranly123 on January 10, 2020, 11:00:06 AM


This will be an interesting fight but I think I will side on Garcia. Let's see when the fight happens. I think once the fight is over, whoever wins will ask for Pacquiao's fight... :D
certainly is because no Boxers now that dont wanna fight the greatest fighter taht active until now mate,all of them are wanted to be part of Pacquiaos Boxing Journey even before he Retires .

many of them wanted just to be with him in the ring while others wanna see him Down the ring without the belt or being loser.

so let us see what will faith brings these boxers.

Of course every boxers want to fight whether Manny or Floyd because these two boxers can offer them a lot of purse and that is the main reason. Whether Garcia or Vargas win this fight, they will surely ask for a fight with big names in it.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Jessie Vargas vs Mikey Garcia
Post by: Questat on January 10, 2020, 01:21:09 PM


This will be an interesting fight but I think I will side on Garcia. Let's see when the fight happens. I think once the fight is over, whoever wins will ask for Pacquiao's fight... :D
certainly is because no Boxers now that dont wanna fight the greatest fighter taht active until now mate,all of them are wanted to be part of Pacquiaos Boxing Journey even before he Retires .

many of them wanted just to be with him in the ring while others wanna see him Down the ring without the belt or being loser.

so let us see what will faith brings these boxers.

Of course every boxers want to fight whether Manny or Floyd because these two boxers can offer them a lot of purse and that is the main reason. Whether Garcia or Vargas win this fight, they will surely ask for a fight with big names in it.

Either of these fighters can't bet Manny, they are too slow compared to Manny and I thinK Manny is looking to fight undefeated fighters like Spence and crawford, maybe if Garcia would win this, he can ask a rematch to spence but I think it would be the same story.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Jessie Vargas vs Mikey Garica
Post by: bbc.reporter on January 11, 2020, 02:52:17 AM

In any case, this will be a good fight. The Nitrogensports odds on Jessie Vargas is very high on 5.23.

That's how favored Garcia to win this match, this could be a great odds for bettors who trust on Vargas to win the fight.
BTW, thank you for bring the odds here.

this answers

These are fiat sportsbook or casinos, why the line is still not available on crypto sportsbook?

odds for reference : https://nitrogensports.eu/sport/boxing/boxing-matches

However, is that how much Mikey Garcia should be favored? The sportsbooks might be giving more value on Jessie Vargas in this fight. It is on welterweight.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Jessie Vargas vs Mikey Garica
Post by: Baofeng on January 11, 2020, 11:40:05 PM

In any case, this will be a good fight. The Nitrogensports odds on Jessie Vargas is very high on 5.23.

That's how favored Garcia to win this match, this could be a great odds for bettors who trust on Vargas to win the fight.
BTW, thank you for bring the odds here.

this answers

These are fiat sportsbook or casinos, why the line is still not available on crypto sportsbook?

odds for reference : https://nitrogensports.eu/sport/boxing/boxing-matches

However, is that how much Mikey Garcia should be favored? The sportsbooks might be giving more value on Jessie Vargas in this fight. It is on welterweight.

To be honest, I was really surprised to find that odds though in paper Mikey's record is good, however, just like you said this is welterweight territory and Mikey hasn't been tested on this waters or at least failed against the best of the division, Errol Spence Jr. And he really look so small at this division.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Jessie Vargas vs Mikey Garcia
Post by: Saisher on January 12, 2020, 05:05:23 AM
This will be an interesting fight but I think I will side on Garcia. Let's see when the fight happens. I think once the fight is over, whoever wins will ask for Pacquiao's fight... :D

That's pretty normal to join the Pacquiao sweepstakes lol. If Garcia would win this one and he can get the nod of the Pacman camp to fight him, that would be the biggest paycheck of his career. He could retire after the Pacman match.

That's true I think Mikey wants to fight Pacquiao, more than Vargas wants it, he's been telling it in some of his interviews, but it's a different story right now but I'm pretty sure that both fighters will try to get hype on their career by calling out Pacquiao, every up and coming fighters and those who want to resurrect their career will go for Pacquiao.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Jessie Vargas vs Mikey Garcia
Post by: btc78 on January 12, 2020, 05:59:03 AM
i am for Garcia this time because i want him the next to fight Manny Pacquiao since Vargas has already lose to Manny.

not that i want manny to be defeated but what i want is New face in the ring that will give Pacman new challenge .


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Jessie Vargas vs Mikey Garcia
Post by: Baofeng on January 30, 2020, 12:38:35 PM
The odds are in - Sportsbet.io

https://i.ibb.co/r4Vh4tK/Screen-Shot-2020-01-30-at-8-36-30-PM.png (https://ibb.co/bzkVz3j)

https://sportsbet.io/sports/event/boxing/international/matchups/garcia-miguel-angel-vargas-jessie-5e19daba50103f6646fc6110

Odds for Vargas looks very attractive, I might go with Jessie here with a decision. But let's see how the odds are going to be once the fight gets closer.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Jessie Vargas vs Mikey Garcia
Post by: dunfida on January 30, 2020, 09:59:16 PM
The odds are in - Sportsbet.io

https://i.ibb.co/r4Vh4tK/Screen-Shot-2020-01-30-at-8-36-30-PM.png (https://ibb.co/bzkVz3j)

https://sportsbet.io/sports/event/boxing/international/matchups/garcia-miguel-angel-vargas-jessie-5e19daba50103f6646fc6110

Odds for Vargas looks very attractive, I might go with Jessie here with a decision. But let's see how the odds are going to be once the fight gets closer.
Ill go with Vargas on here even if the odds would be slightly change as the fight or event approaches. 10 fight experience gap isnt really that far.He would really have that chance.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Jessie Vargas vs Mikey Garcia
Post by: 3la9l_kolbaCa on January 30, 2020, 10:51:16 PM
The odds are in - Sportsbet.io

https://i.ibb.co/r4Vh4tK/Screen-Shot-2020-01-30-at-8-36-30-PM.png (https://ibb.co/bzkVz3j)

https://sportsbet.io/sports/event/boxing/international/matchups/garcia-miguel-angel-vargas-jessie-5e19daba50103f6646fc6110

Odds for Vargas looks very attractive, I might go with Jessie here with a decision. But let's see how the odds are going to be once the fight gets closer.

Same here, I would live to see Jessie to take the winning legacy in the future. This is very exciting to wait for that odds on how it's going ti be sooner, because we still don't know what will happen in their coming fight. Vargas is also a strong opponent, Jessie shouldn't be too confident and he must be cautious with Vargas actions during their fight.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Jessie Vargas vs Mikey Garcia
Post by: Baofeng on February 08, 2020, 05:46:55 AM
Here are the undercards for this fight:

Julio Cesar Martinez vs Jay Harris

Kal Yafai vs Roman Gonzalez

Joseph Parker vs Shawndell Winters

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GR24t4nKcYg - Mikey Garcia vs Jessie Vargas 3 weeks to Fight night EsNews Boxing

Current odds:

https://i.ibb.co/7QkqwcT/Screen-Shot-2020-02-08-at-1-45-45-PM.png (https://ibb.co/kJmtRnr)


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Jessie Vargas vs Mikey Garcia
Post by: BALIK on February 08, 2020, 10:35:01 AM
Here are the undercards for this fight:

Julio Cesar Martinez vs Jay Harris

Kal Yafai vs Roman Gonzalez

Joseph Parker vs Shawndell Winters

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GR24t4nKcYg - Mikey Garcia vs Jessie Vargas 3 weeks to Fight night EsNews Boxing

Current odds:

https://i.ibb.co/7QkqwcT/Screen-Shot-2020-02-08-at-1-45-45-PM.png (https://ibb.co/kJmtRnr)

OOOOH,

Parker vs Winters, looks like an easy money fight right there. Parker should easily handle the aging Winters with style.

Not too many bookies have got odds on this yet, but it already looks like Parker is a heavy favorite;

https://www.oddschecker.com/boxing/joseph-parker-v-shawndell-terell-winters/winner

1/25 on Parker, seems like a decent pick.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Jessie Vargas vs Mikey Garcia
Post by: Text on February 08, 2020, 11:42:35 AM
Before seeing the odds on sports betting, I already have a bet and it goes to Vargas. Checking their profiles and backgrounds, I think having more fight experiences will not guarantee a win always. Declaring a winner isn't just having a power punch to knock out, but who stands out until the end. Well, let's see and watch their fight, this would be an exciting one indeed.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Jessie Vargas vs Mikey Garcia
Post by: Baofeng on February 15, 2020, 11:32:18 PM
I was really surprised that there's no hype surrounding this fight, anyway, it was reported that Vargas and Garcia will be fighting for the WBC 'Diamond' Belt.

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The WBC is pleased to confirm the Diamond belt to honor the winner of this sensational fight between two elite fighters as Mikey Garcia and Jessie Vargas clash on Saturday February 29 at Ford Center at The Star in Frisco, Texas, live on DAZN in the US and on Sky Sports in the UK.

Garcia and Vargas are multi-division world champions and also are proud WBC Cares ambassadors and role models for society.

The World Boxing Council Board of Governors unanimously voted in favor to approve the WBC Diamond belt to be awarded to the winner celebrating this sensational fight between these great fighters .

https://www.boxingscene.com/mikey-garcia-vs-jessie-vargas-sanctioned-wbc-diamond-belt--146720


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Jessie Vargas vs Mikey Garcia
Post by: BALIK on February 15, 2020, 11:44:09 PM
Here are the undercards for this fight:

Julio Cesar Martinez vs Jay Harris

Kal Yafai vs Roman Gonzalez

Joseph Parker vs Shawndell Winters

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GR24t4nKcYg - Mikey Garcia vs Jessie Vargas 3 weeks to Fight night EsNews Boxing

Current odds:

https://i.ibb.co/7QkqwcT/Screen-Shot-2020-02-08-at-1-45-45-PM.png (https://ibb.co/kJmtRnr)

Looks like Parker vs Shawndell is about the only decent fight on the undercard.

Definitely wont be watching this.

Parkers opponent is a complete bum.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Jessie Vargas vs Mikey Garcia
Post by: Baofeng on February 16, 2020, 09:27:51 AM
@BALIK - Julio Cesar Martinez vs Jay Harris could be a good match in my opinion. JCM is a newly crowned WBC flyweight champion, one of the busiest fighter in the last two year having fought 8x during that time span. While Jay Harris is a former European and Commonwealth champion. So there could be fireworks in this fight at the belt of JCM is on the line here.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Jessie Vargas vs Mikey Garcia
Post by: Kemarit on February 16, 2020, 11:00:33 AM
I was really surprised that there's no hype surrounding this fight, anyway, it was reported that Vargas and Garcia will be fighting for the WBC 'Diamond' Belt.

It's because the boxing world is awaiting for the Fury vs Wilder rematch. That's why there's no media attention on this fight. Besides, with Garcia coming off from a lost to Errol Spence and then Jessie Vargas somewhat lost in the 147 lbs division, it's really hard to promote this fight.

So for me, this two are just B-side boxers to the growing list of top welterweights around.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Jessie Vargas vs Mikey Garcia
Post by: Jating on February 16, 2020, 01:01:45 PM
I was really surprised that there's no hype surrounding this fight, anyway, it was reported that Vargas and Garcia will be fighting for the WBC 'Diamond' Belt.

It's because the boxing world is awaiting for the Fury vs Wilder rematch. That's why there's no media attention on this fight. Besides, with Garcia coming off from a lost to Errol Spence and then Jessie Vargas somewhat lost in the 147 lbs division, it's really hard to promote this fight.

So for me, this two are just B-side boxers to the growing list of top welterweights around.

Yes, it was just a bad schedule, I guess. And it seems there's no animosity or drama between the two that's why boxing fans are not into it. We all know that most of the times we wanted to see fight that has some controversy between the two.

And we haven't heard anything leading up to the promotions of the fights. Although we can argue that the supporting bouts has some good fighters in it, not enough to generate buzz, in my opinion.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Jessie Vargas vs Mikey Garcia
Post by: Saisher on February 16, 2020, 02:35:05 PM
I was really surprised that there's no hype surrounding this fight, anyway, it was reported that Vargas and Garcia will be fighting for the WBC 'Diamond' Belt.

It's because the boxing world is awaiting for the Fury vs Wilder rematch. That's why there's no media attention on this fight. Besides, with Garcia coming off from a lost to Errol Spence and then Jessie Vargas somewhat lost in the 147 lbs division, it's really hard to promote this fight.

So for me, this two are just B-side boxers to the growing list of top welterweights around.

There's really no hype it is being eclipse by the Wilder and Fury match, everybody is tuned on this fight, because the first fight was excited and there's unfinished between the two, maybe after this fight and if no big fights coming up, medias will cover and hype this fight, but definitely this will have a hype in Mexico.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Jessie Vargas vs Mikey Garcia
Post by: rexxarofmoknathal on February 16, 2020, 04:23:11 PM
It's because the boxing world is awaiting for the Fury vs Wilder rematch. That's why there's no media attention on this fight. Besides, with Garcia coming off from a lost to Errol Spence and then Jessie Vargas somewhat lost in the 147 lbs division, it's really hard to promote this fight.

So for me, this two are just B-side boxers to the growing list of top welterweights around.

Exactly that.

If other people are anything like me, we only want to see the genuine number 1 fighters, or undefeated up-and-comers.

Anybody who has been thoroughly schooled in the past, or lost their title permanently is not worth watching.

There are obviously a few exceptions that always put on great shows though, e.g. Dillian Whyte and Derreck Chisora, but mostly it's just the big names we want to see.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Jessie Vargas vs Mikey Garcia
Post by: fortunecrypto on February 16, 2020, 04:33:02 PM
It's because the boxing world is awaiting for the Fury vs Wilder rematch. That's why there's no media attention on this fight. Besides, with Garcia coming off from a lost to Errol Spence and then Jessie Vargas somewhat lost in the 147 lbs division, it's really hard to promote this fight.

So for me, this two are just B-side boxers to the growing list of top welterweights around.

Exactly that.

If other people are anything like me, we only want to see the genuine number 1 fighters, or undefeated up-and-comers.

Anybody who has been thoroughly schooled in the past, or lost their title permanently is not worth watching.

There are obviously a few exceptions that always put on great shows though, e.g. Dillian Whyte and Derreck Chisora, but mostly it's just the big names we want to see.

We all know boxing promoters they will do something to hype the fight, this is not a title fight but something great will come out for fighter on who will win this battle and the fighter that will win the fight should win it in a very fashion way like knocking out the other fight or both fighter slugging it out like a street fight.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Jessie Vargas vs Mikey Garcia
Post by: Diced90 on February 16, 2020, 08:04:41 PM
We all know boxing promoters they will do something to hype the fight, this is not a title fight but something great will come out for fighter on who will win this battle and the fighter that will win the fight should win it in a very fashion way like knocking out the other fight or both fighter slugging it out like a street fight.

Anybody who falls for this type of promotion is just an idiot. A lot of promoters try to stir up some "apparently legit" hatred or rivalry between the two fighters to add authenticity to the bout, e.g. these guys aren't just fighting for money, but for some real dislike of one another.

I don't buy in to any of this crap. I only watch a fight based on past performances of the two fighters. They don't even need to be a big name and I'll still watch 'em if they're good.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Jessie Vargas vs Mikey Garcia
Post by: stadus on February 16, 2020, 09:17:20 PM
We all know boxing promoters they will do something to hype the fight, this is not a title fight but something great will come out for fighter on who will win this battle and the fighter that will win the fight should win it in a very fashion way like knocking out the other fight or both fighter slugging it out like a street fight.

Anybody who falls for this type of promotion is just an idiot. A lot of promoters try to stir up some "apparently legit" hatred or rivalry between the two fighters to add authenticity to the bout, e.g. these guys aren't just fighting for money, but for some real dislike of one another.

I don't buy in to any of this crap. I only watch a fight based on past performances of the two fighters. They don't even need to be a big name and I'll still watch 'em if they're good.

Most people would still fail that's why promotion is really important in any fight as more people would fall means more money on the pot.
Vargas still has a pretty decent odds, who already bet o the guy to win?


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Jessie Vargas vs Mikey Garcia
Post by: Baofeng on February 27, 2020, 10:28:09 AM
Boxing week guys,

Mikey Garcia: Vargas Will Be Coming For a KO Win - Me Too!

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Four division world champion Mikey Garcia is expecting a real war, when he steps in the ring against two-division world champion Jessie Vargas.

The contest takes place on Saturday night, as the headline bout of a Matchroom card in Frisco, Texas. DAZN will be streaming the event.

Garcia is fighting for the first time since March 2019, when moved up by two weight divisions to the welterweight ranks and suffered a lopsided decision loss to IBF world champion Errol Spence.

https://www.boxingscene.com/mikey-garcia-vargas-coming-ko-win-me-too--147142

And since the Wilder vs Fury rematch is over, I think it's about time to shift our attention to this fight. I didn't generate enough buzz, but for sure this is one good fight that boxing fans shouldn't missed.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Jessie Vargas vs Mikey Garcia
Post by: bbc.reporter on March 01, 2020, 12:11:08 AM
@Baofeng. Mikey Garcia is 5 inches shorter than Jessie Vargas and the lightweight Mikey Garcia's power on welterweight is lesser. Jessie Vargas also has a 2 inch reach advantage.

My prediction, this fight will be a split or a majority decision for Jessie Vargas.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Jessie Vargas vs Mikey Garcia
Post by: Darker45 on March 01, 2020, 04:15:32 AM
Watching right now. The main bout is about to start a few minutes from now. The mike is in Michael Buffer's hand already. The fighters are already introduced.

Not placing a bet on this fight as the odds for Garcia are not that attractive. I am for Garcia by UD in this one, though.

Edit:

There you go! Mikey just got his win by UD. He could have won a KO if he went more than his jab-straight 1-2 combination. There were many opportunities for it. Credits for Vargas for being so brilliant in throwing away punches, keeping Mikey at bay, even if he was already hurt by the latter's right.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Jessie Vargas vs Mikey Garcia
Post by: Baofeng on March 01, 2020, 05:23:01 AM
Watching right now. The main bout is about to start a few minutes from now. The mike is in Michael Buffer's hand already. The fighters are already introduced.

Not placing a bet on this fight as the odds for Garcia are not that attractive. I am for Garcia by UD in this one, though.

Edit:

There you go! Mikey just got his win by UD. He could have won a KO if he went more than his jab-straight 1-2 combination. There were many opportunities for it. Credits for Vargas for being so brilliant in throwing away punches, keeping Mikey at bay, even if he was already hurt by the latter's right.

Thank you @Darker45, I wasn't able to watch the fight, damn, not feeling good today.

I just saw the news, it was 114-113, 116-111 and 116-111 unanimous decision for Mikey. I thought that Vargas could have easily taken Mikey Garcia out, but it was the other way around. I'll probably watch some replay on Youtube.  ;D

@bbc.reporter - we are wrong, it seems that Mikey bring his A-game against Vargas tonight.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Jessie Vargas vs Mikey Garcia
Post by: Darker45 on March 01, 2020, 09:59:08 AM
Watching right now. The main bout is about to start a few minutes from now. The mike is in Michael Buffer's hand already. The fighters are already introduced.

Not placing a bet on this fight as the odds for Garcia are not that attractive. I am for Garcia by UD in this one, though.

Edit:

There you go! Mikey just got his win by UD. He could have won a KO if he went more than his jab-straight 1-2 combination. There were many opportunities for it. Credits for Vargas for being so brilliant in throwing away punches, keeping Mikey at bay, even if he was already hurt by the latter's right.

Thank you @Darker45, I wasn't able to watch the fight, damn, not feeling good today.

I just saw the news, it was 114-113, 116-111 and 116-111 unanimous decision for Mikey. I thought that Vargas could have easily taken Mikey Garcia out, but it was the other way around. I'll probably watch some replay on Youtube.  ;D

@bbc.reporter - we are wrong, it seems that Mikey bring his A-game against Vargas tonight.

Vargas showed a tremendous performance. He was the one who dictated the early rounds. His jabs to the body were also doing well. He appeared to be very comfortable and ahead in points until he was knocked down by Mikey in the 5th round. That was the start of Mikey's momentum. I guess the thing that made everything different between the two fighters is that Mikey has the more powerful punch. While Vargas scored one point after another, he didn't really hurt Mikey to the point of sealing his edge over him. It was Mikey who could turn everything around with a very strong right hand. And that finally happened in the 5th round.

But without that single 10-8 score in the 5th round, the result could have been a majority decision. Nevertheless, the fight was a great one overall. Both fighters showed their best. On the other hand, Chocolatito KOed the previously undefeated Yafai in the main supporting bout. Another great battle.

Anyway, there seems to be a little interest over this match. The thread is silent. ???

Get well soon, by the way, and enjoy watching the replay!


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Jessie Vargas vs Mikey Garcia
Post by: Jating on March 01, 2020, 02:53:33 PM
Vargas was not really known to have or not known to be a KO puncher. He usually overwhelms his opponents with his jabs, although I was surprised that Mikey was able to knock him down since Vargas is the bigger man here.

Good performance by Mikey, it looks like he is going to stay at 147 lbs and chase bigger fights. We have been hearing his name against Manny, so let's see if he can get his dream fight, of course it could be his biggest paycheck.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Jessie Vargas vs Mikey Garcia
Post by: btc_angela on March 01, 2020, 10:32:11 PM
Vargas was not really known to have or not known to be a KO puncher. He usually overwhelms his opponents with his jabs, although I was surprised that Mikey was able to knock him down since Vargas is the bigger man here.

Right, but he has a puncher chance here because Mikey is not a natural welterweight. But it looks like he has somewhat carry his power now and made some adjustments after his first lost in that division against an elite fighter, Spence. Just show that Vargas is not as elite as others may have thought he would be.

Good performance by Mikey, it looks like he is going to stay at 147 lbs and chase bigger fights. We have been hearing his name against Manny, so let's see if he can get his dream fight, of course it could be his biggest paycheck.

With this kind of performance? of course, he would definitely stay at welterweight now, although we are rob of Mikey vs Loma at 130-135 lbs.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Jessie Vargas vs Mikey Garcia
Post by: stadus on March 01, 2020, 11:52:57 PM
If I remember it right, Mikey Garcia called out Pacman to be his next opponent, do you think it's a good fight for Manny or do you think this guy stands a good chance against Manny? He also want a rematch against Spence but I think it's not a good idea.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Jessie Vargas vs Mikey Garcia
Post by: bisdak40 on March 03, 2020, 09:12:52 AM
If I remember it right, Mikey Garcia called out Pacman to be his next opponent, do you think it's a good fight for Manny or do you think this guy stands a good chance against Manny? He also want a rematch against Spence but I think it's not a good idea.


For Mikey Garcia, the road to a Pacquiao fight is to defeat Vargas first and he did his homework very well. For Manny, this is a very good fight for him as Mikey is less dangerous than Spence and both fighters is more or less even in terms of size. I think Manny have the edge here but the probability of Mikey defeating an old Pacman is very high.

There are talks that Manny's camp is talking already on the camp of Mikey and that the fight will be held in Saudi, just could not find the link of that article now.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Jessie Vargas vs Mikey Garcia
Post by: TravelMug on March 03, 2020, 09:57:09 AM
If I remember it right, Mikey Garcia called out Pacman to be his next opponent, do you think it's a good fight for Manny or do you think this guy stands a good chance against Manny? He also want a rematch against Spence but I think it's not a good idea.


Everyone has a chance against Manny calling him out after a solid win, and then we know what's going to happen next,  ;D.

He need to go after the top dogs of Welterweight now, he did weight 145 lbs, but he really do look good at this division or it is just that Vargas sucks, either way, a fight with Manny will generate millions for him so why not call Manny and his camp and set up a fight.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Jessie Vargas vs Mikey Garcia
Post by: Questat on March 03, 2020, 10:01:45 AM
If I remember it right, Mikey Garcia called out Pacman to be his next opponent, do you think it's a good fight for Manny or do you think this guy stands a good chance against Manny? He also want a rematch against Spence but I think it's not a good idea.


Everyone has a chance against Manny calling him out after a solid win, and then we know what's going to happen next,  ;D.

He need to go after the top dogs of Welterweight now, he did weight 145 lbs, but he really do look good at this division or it is just that Vargas sucks, either way, a fight with Manny will generate millions for him so why not call Manny and his camp and set up a fight.

Mikey Garcia had only one loss so I guess he is a good opponent for money but I would not think that he is a better fight than Thurman.
Therefore if Manny fight him and Manny wins, Manny would benefit since he can still have more fights and will still hold the belt.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Jessie Vargas vs Mikey Garcia
Post by: fortunecrypto on March 03, 2020, 10:35:00 AM
If I remember it right, Mikey Garcia called out Pacman to be his next opponent, do you think it's a good fight for Manny or do you think this guy stands a good chance against Manny? He also want a rematch against Spence but I think it's not a good idea.


Everyone has a chance against Manny calling him out after a solid win, and then we know what's going to happen next,  ;D.

He need to go after the top dogs of Welterweight now, he did weight 145 lbs, but he really do look good at this division or it is just that Vargas sucks, either way, a fight with Manny will generate millions for him so why not call Manny and his camp and set up a fight.

If the fight push through, it will benefit both fighters and the boxing industry, because Garcia is on on his highest level and Pacquiao still has it,
I'm not saying that Thurman is a weak fighter but we have fighters in Garcia and Pacquiao that people wants to see, so I hope the fight will push through the ball is on Pacquiao's camp now.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Jessie Vargas vs Mikey Garcia
Post by: mu_enrico on March 03, 2020, 10:58:14 AM
Damn guys, leave Manny alone, he already had enough boxing in his life. It's time to move on to other boxers.

Anyway, I like Mikey, but he is getting too fat if he keeps moving to the heavier class. I'm surprised when he beat Vargas with that fat on his stomach. IMO he should move down and fight Lomachenko instead. Who still remembers the Mikey vs Loma hype? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uB-Uz4QWnS4


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Jessie Vargas vs Mikey Garcia
Post by: stadus on March 03, 2020, 11:14:26 AM
Damn guys, leave Manny alone, he already had enough boxing in his life. It's time to move on to other boxers.

Anyway, I like Mikey, but he is getting too fat if he keeps moving to the heavier class. I'm surprised when he beat Vargas with that fat on his stomach. IMO he should move down and fight Lomachenko instead. Who still remembers the Mikey vs Loma hype? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uB-Uz4QWnS4

He was calling for Manny, so he really think he can beat Manny or he just want to make more money in that fight.
Manny is old but he is a legend, we can't leave him alone, people still wants to see Manny fight some big names in boxing, if Manny can't fight Mayweather, Spence, and Crawford, then let's give Garcia a shot, I remember when Thurman called out Manny, he answer that call, we might see the same.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Jessie Vargas vs Mikey Garcia
Post by: btc_angela on March 03, 2020, 11:16:35 AM
Damn guys, leave Manny alone, he already had enough boxing in his life. It's time to move on to other boxers.

Anyway, I like Mikey, but he is getting too fat if he keeps moving to the heavier class. I'm surprised when he beat Vargas with that fat on his stomach. IMO he should move down and fight Lomachenko instead. Who still remembers the Mikey vs Loma hype? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uB-Uz4QWnS4

Thank you mate, at least there's someone here who thinks that Mikey vs Loma is a better option for Mikey because that is what boxing fans are waiting. So I really don't understand why he suddenly jumps two weight decision, fight the best in Spence, taking his 0 and then goes on Vargas, just a B-fighter. He should go down at 135 lbs and call out Loma.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Jessie Vargas vs Mikey Garcia
Post by: bisdak40 on March 03, 2020, 11:31:55 AM
Damn guys, leave Manny alone, he already had enough boxing in his life. It's time to move on to other boxers.

Anyway, I like Mikey, but he is getting too fat if he keeps moving to the heavier class. I'm surprised when he beat Vargas with that fat on his stomach. IMO he should move down and fight Lomachenko instead. Who still remembers the Mikey vs Loma hype? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uB-Uz4QWnS4

Friends and family of Manny is begging him to retire from boxing and they ain't successful as the fighting senator still want to fight one or a couple before calling it a career. These last fights would be selective though as his team doesn't want him to be hurt and the most practical fights for him is Mikey Garcia or Robert Guerero. Mikey is calling on the Pacman to fight him as this may be biggest fight for him, money-wise if this pushes through.