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We all read threads where people say that it is impossible to win against the house because the edge that is always against a gambler.

But often when I am playing dice and I see chat and view stats of some gamblers there are actually some profiles that show profits while some show loss so my question is, do people actually make profits from dice or the stats are misleading or something?

And I am talking about regular gamblers who I mean are active in chat almost daily so it's not like they made profit once and stopped gambling, they are active and gamble almost every day so how some guys are managing profits while others are failing?

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I don’t think they are real accounts and can be managed by someone of the site to show gamblers that some persons are winning.I believe that even the most regular gamblers cannot win daily and can’t manage the winnings as you are suggesting.This in dice is impossible as it is a game of chance controlled by a random algorithm which is programmed to make people lose money in the long run.

Yes, some gamblers win of course. Otherwise no one will join any gambling sites whatever it dice or something else. Even on a corrupted gambling sites, some gamblers should win in oder to bring more new gamblers. But I believe house always winner averagely, otherwise they won't pay from their pocket always. If you always lost fund on a gambling site will you stay there ? I don't think so, so sometimes you will win as well. Those people are chatting they all are not fakes in my opinions. There is some decent sites called probably fair.

As per provably fair things, at least 50% of gamblers are actually making profits. If every gambler is facing losses then they all might have quit their gambling which will lead to big problems like houses may not survive. Some gamblers make profits and they inspire others and new gamblers want to copy those profits and they try and lose. This is one kind of cycle.

People make profits and they want to repeat and when they try with double the bet amount, they may lose. Still, they may not quit because they got a history of winning big so they will keep trying and results may vary gambler to gambler. Simply, some gamblers may actually win but that does not mean you also will win. Barbecue, you cannot copy their luck.

If you are in luck based game then chances to win is thin but actually even the chances is low still it's good indicator to tell that their are chances for gambler to win with the house.  Their are skill based game where we can have a huge chances to win and actually I saw my friend winning on poker and other card games.

Always correct. No matter what. If it was the opposite then the casino would go bankrupt provided the outcome of the bets is infinitely large.

Gambling sites profile show "profits" precisely, NOT "loss" - get my point? They dont show the P/L ratio or the total loss value. You can see the wager amount and the profit but never the loss value. ;)

They are not making profits. They are there because they have lost and are trying to make it back. The incessant attempt to win and lose again and again is what keeps they going and the hope that one day they will get back the lost amount. If one really wins big they leave the casino is they are wise enough and know how the casinos work.

But if they are a fool, like 99.9% of casino players they come back and lose the won money again to get back to the same vicious cycle. ;D

When people say that you can win against the house that does not totally say you don't win or you have no chance of winning.
You can win or course but here's the catch, "if you do it for longer term then you'll lose in the long run".. so if you are gambling dice now, you can win if you are lucky but soon enough if you don't know how to stop you'll still be able to lose all your winnings, that's what I believe based on my experience.

Yes, people do actually make profits but I don't think that they can win consecutively.
If people are showing you their winnings through live chat, maybe they just win more on pure luck. But if you will ask gamblers or if they even tell you how much they lose, you will know that their loss is much higher than their winning.

There are some reasons why some can make a decent profit like they are really lucky or maybe they have some strategy. But I don't think that these reasons can apply every day and every time a certain gambler play.

Some really wins, what we're not sure is how long they played to win. Since based on my experience when I play and win at the start and my greediness strikes, I often lose at the end. Some gambler were able to make it as their source of income. In traditional gambling I have seen some neighbor who is able to do it, but in crypto I do see the stats but didn't believe that they will be able to maintain their winning streaks for long.

Some gamblers do win but I call them lucky gamblers as you don't win in dice using your skills, if you know people claiming that they do win, that's a complete lie as no strategy would work in dice in the long run. Skilled based games are the only games that could possibly give gamblers a good chance to win but on dice, even how small the house edge, it still favors by the house at the end of the day.

Try your own experiment, gamble in dice consistently like for a year and share you experience, I bet you'll not last that long with a pretty decent amount of bankroll, the only moment I remember I win in dice is when I stop thinking of my previous loses as sometimes we also do have our lucky day.

Here's what I think after playing dice on various gambling sites for more than 5 years.

On a site with 1% house edge, 50.50% of all the money wagered there are losses, and 49.50% are winnings. Although there are more money lost on such a site than won, surely there are some people who are in profit from playing this game for years. I personally know couple of guys from PD chat whose overall profits were above 3 BTC at the time it was possible to see it, one year ago or so.

My point is that, contrary to popular belief, not all players are losing in the long run playing luck based games, such as dice. Yes, most of them do lose, but not all of them. This game would be abandoned by now, if it were otherwise.

It is possible to win, most of them say that means that it's impossible to win an amount that you can take home. But, it's possible to win whether there's house edge.

Yes, there are people that actually make money from dice but it's not all of the time that they are into that winning situation. The question is how many loses they've made before going to that winning moment.

When a regular gambler play gambling almost every day, yes, they can win although they cannot win every day. If we know how many of them who could win on that game, maybe it is not many because mostly, many gamblers lose their money even if they use another money to continue to gamble. But I admitted that some of them only tell a fake story about their winning because they can get an image showing their winning from the internet. After all, we don't know the truth.

Perfectly agree with you. The life of the gambling sites won't be lasting if the winners are just fake gamblers. It also happened on shit exchanges, they just worked temporarily and simply disappeared. Manipulation should be uncovered even the team is really professional fraudsters. People will know something strange on gambling sites. In fact, we have known some trusted and popular gambling sites. It means that they are professional gambling sites that most gamblers have proven it, some may already win more than one time.

Of course they are making money yet not all the times when we do talk about gambling it do means loss.There are people who do actually make money out of the site and since we do talk about dice which do matters on luck most of the time then players would only have two situations wether they are making money or losing.Stats arent fake but depending if you do play on a reputable gambling site.You can see which one is losing and which one is profiting unless if you do see the overall wager amount then its totally different.In talks for those people who are active in chat then its just normal for them to be active specially to those who do love to hang out with the site knowing that socialism with other gamblers is somewhat enjoyable it depends on a certain individual though which one looks appealing or depending into this mood.

A lot of people do win and as with anything in life, some things require a bit of skill to succeed and some need a bit of luck. The house edge will determine how much money will go back to the players, but it does not mean that percentage will go back to a specific player or a group of players.

So, some people might be more lucky and they would win other people's share of the money and for them to win, others will have to lose some money.

There are some games where a bit of skill and knowledge will give you the edge over other players, like with Sport betting and poker etc. I have personally won more than what I have lost, but it will not be a guaranteed scenario, because if you continue playing, you might end up being on the losing side. < Playing only Slots will increase the chances of people losing money, because these games normally have a higher house edge configured>  :P

They do actually making profits and those number arent lies. lol
Misleading are just for scam gambling sites but for legit ones then theres nothing to worry about.
Its all matter with luck, you cant determine if those winning fellas are still winning on next second you are seeing.
All is random and can happen in a blink of an eye.

Is there a popular belief saying that all players lose in the long run? You do lose as soon as you don't accept the fact that you've won and turn greedy. It's the brain thinking "If I earned 10% profit so easily, I can earn 10% more again!" and making you believe constant and consecutive wins are achievable.

This is how most players lose. It's a game of luck & addiction. Your brain will want to see that second win, and then the third and so on.. until you lose and then repeat :)

I think they are just lucky enough or they have their own strategy and they could control their self and stop when they feel like it.
I have an online friend that actually showed me his gambling profile from a dice site and it have a great profit,
I also seen some of my friends gamble and I could say that there are some who could actually manage to win most of the time.
To be honest I envy them back then because as they are making money from gambling I am actually losing.

On all the dice sites I gamble on I'm close to breaking even. I believe it is possible to make a profit but it is not easy. It took me some big losses and trying hundreds of strategies to come up with something where I am doing okay and not having any significant losses.

Actually, I think the reason why people play and still taking the risk in gambling is because also of some people they know or heard of that have won and take a big fortune from the activity, that is why they are eager to win big time, taking high risk, and yearning for a chance to hit the jackpot. But, for me, the possibility for a win is low, that is why gambling have become an exciting and thrilling to play with. In addition, in some cases, when there are people who wins in a game they are not able to control theirselves that is why sometimes, what they have won before would be a loss after they gambled again hoping a streak for the win.

My experience when playing dice is a lot of disadvantages but there are also advantages to good tactics when betting and setting the right numbers and then I change again so as not to be prone to losses, but I think everyone playing dice every day or once a week will definitely lose and fortunately, so it can not be ascertained how much loss the loss is because as long as our tactics are good at managing numbers then it will be more minimal in risk.

most of the time that i gamble i am not really active in chatting but i am monitoring the chat so i have ideas on whom are winning and how many are losing,and indeed the chat are mostly filled with losers than winners.

but asking about the Gamblers really win?no there are only few of them(us) who wins even in our active gaming because gambling is really not profitable and that is what we must Put in mind.

I was really questioning the title when I saw it. Like, no one would play a gambling game if people didn't win right? The stats aren't probably misleading or anything like that. There may be one or two accounts that could have been intentionally manipulated by the site, but the majority should probably be legit statistics.

As for the question of how they manage their profits, well, some people are just filthy rich that even if they lose a lot on one day, they can immediately amass funds for the next day. There's no purpose in comparing yourself to these types of people since they gamble for the sake of gambling itself. They don't fixate on winning. As for those that win, well, if you won, why would you stop right? They'd probably store a part then gamble with the rest, and if you lose, you take the part you won last time. If you win, then rinse and repeat the method said.

No one will hardly spend their time into gambling if they'll never saw that someone had also won. Of course, assurance of winning isn't particularly at a high percentage and it was acceptable that more gamblers suffer great loss than of winning. But all of these aren't recorded and remain hidden for newcomers won't notice it. May paid chats and reviews are having played in a particular site chat and sometimes be misleading. If you are regularly playing DICE games or any forms of gambling, you could notice that only a few gamblers could win that day while many were losing. But still, we have chances to win and only it happens when luck is in favor to us.

I support this, gambling is all about enticing that you can really win a game and the operator's way to do that is to show people are actually winning, of course there are people really winning but if you talked to that person, you'll realize that their winning percentage is small compare to their overall loses, that is why we keep telling people to enjoy the game and forget profit, it will come if you are lucky.

There are really gamblers who have actually win in gambling many times, but their winnings didn't last long because they are just too greedy to play again over and over that they are still not satisfied with their winnings, that is why no gamblers have gone home rich. It is the reason why casino owners and dealers are the only ones who get rich in gambling because all of their losses will go straight to their pocket.

Are they sharing that they are profitable and that is the reason that they are into gambling everyday? Or, it is just your assumption like you see them everyday so they must be good with gambling? In my experience with both dicing and sportsbetting, I am having mixed results but I have been into them for last 5 years. At the same time, just because I am continuing for years that does not mean that I am into profits. I just gamble because I have some left out money after my month expenses and no other hidden reasons.

Some gamblers may win but definitely not in consistent manner. Hope you get the differences between winning and consistently winning. I like to suggest you not to get mislead by what casinos posting like this much was won last night or people wager this much and won this much kind of things. Most of them are just the baits to tempt you.

Even if you look into this forum, lots of casinos are posting about many big wins but none of those lucky gamblers are from this community / not from the group of known/trusted forum members. Fro example, freebitco.in had a big lambo contest but the winner was an anonymous one and it seems he claimed BTC instead of lambo.

I agree that gambling houses are promoting like some gamblers are making big money and wait not we try kind of things just the baits for inducing us. We need to be careful and should not try new things in gambling just due to these advertisements. There could be some big winning in every casino but we should not forget the fact there must be 1000s of losers at the same time.

Well, they're not exactly going to advertise losing players now are they?

Most people gamble with the knowledge that the odds are against them. Advertising big wins doesn't change that.

Take a risk and you win big, it's very simple. Probably not though!

I wouldn't say some gamblers, a percentage of 90%of gamblers have won their stakes at one point or the other.
While we have a percentage of 10% that wins severally consecutively too.

The remain odd percentage are those who somehow struggle never to win till they quit gambling.

NB: The percentages are related to the number of gamblers i have encountered

Yes, there are some gamblers who actually win but not all the time. If you gamble like dice, of course, you are fighting to get profit against the house edge. In a gambling platform, there are losses and there are also a winners. Probably if we are going to estimate ou of 100% only 20-30% users actually win but the rest is a failure and that failure makes the revenue of a gambling site.

There are massive online gambling launched here in the forum and almost every day we saw their ANN thread on gambling section. You think if this is not profitable for them maybe no one will build on this kind of business.

Well, I can tell you how that happens basically some people are smart and they make make profits and they actually don't gamble big enough to loose that initially gained profit stats. For example I win 0.01 bitcoins and now I can make sure I don't gamble higher than 0.001 BTC at all so this means I can never go in negative stats and another reason I have seen is some people love to have winning stats and they chat all day but won't gamble just to manage their stats as it is and if they feel like gambling they can make a new account and gamble there.

I have seen a lot of people at primedice use 2 accounts, 1 as bank and 1 with which they actually play and the bank serves as the immediate deposit when they need it and they withdraw to their bank when they win.

The house always wins is correct and it has been proven both statistically and mathematically. Otherwise, casinos wouldn't exist.
However, a gambler has fair chances to win and make profit depending on odds on each game he plays.
Both statements doesn't contradict each other as long as there are others who lose.
Gambling is not just about making money and getting rich. Many gamble just for fun and do not mind losing spending money on it especially those who play card games.

Yes, some gamblers really do win but unfortunately, it's a very small percentage, and the house always wins, this is the reason why gambling is a multi-billion dollar industry, and new online casinos are coming up to get a slice of this huge industry.
let's admit it gambling is addictive, gamblers always come back to play and this is what gambling casinos are taking consideration, they always have a returning client or customers, the money just keeps on coming.

I consider myself winning on a gambling site when I take home some profits when I play gambling, It's not every time but most of the time. It's true that the house edge is hard to beat, but as a gambler, I don't need to beat the house edge too much that you will exit the gambling site empty-handed. Winning is about going home with a profit.

That's probably a clickbait for you to subscribe to them or to follow them (somehow a Youtuber or something like that). Well, I don't think that they really are making profits all the time they may experience losses as well if you think those are misleading probably you're not on a trusted gambling site. They probably have scripts to run their bots I am presuming, nowadays that's the most popular one on dice gambling.

Yes, the stats can be real for most trusted gambling sites!!!It can be false to fraudulent gambling sites.You can win if you are lucky and in a reliable place, Gambling venues are created to make a lot of money, not to provide assistance to those in need ;D ;D

But if you think of the ratio between those who wins on luck and those who lose you can see a big difference in favor of those who lose, my wild guess is for every 8 losers there are two winners, house edge and the administrator will not allow majority of their gambler to win, if that happens they are very close to bankcruptsy.

There are some gamblers who do win from the casinos but not that much if we sum up all those gamblers around, it's only a small percentage of gamblers who are lucky and well discipline in terms of working with the system / strategy that they've created to take some edge against the house. Wise gamblers do limits themselves and always have directions once they've played inside the gambling house.

Limiting themselves is the very best strategy to do, since gambling has no definite assurance to gain a better lucky profit. Everything is always a luck and random chances, which we can't expect everytime gambling has been played all over. No matter what strategy will comes out, it doesn't matter as long as we've been doing it with effort and proper decisions.

There are fixed percentages of people who could win against the house in a day, because all of the gambling sites never let anyone to beat them in a way where it looks like they don't have any control on the games. Gambling site's game are all programmed, meaning, there is a code that would generate the patterns and tactics to beat the players in a way where the house would always make the bigger profits even there are people who are winning.

In short, the number of people who are winning in the gambling site everyday is smaller than the amount of people losing everyday in gambling, that is the sad story behind it. It might be smaller, but it ignites hopes to those gamblers who is really persistent to make money out of it.

Yes, of course their some gambler is actually win some of them involve skill, but all of them involve luck. And the only way to enjoy gambling is to be able to overcome greed enough to gamble, also they should have a goal to avoid addiction in gambling and and lessen your loses. I think gambler should be rest for a while wen they win because many gambler loses a al ot due to continue to bet until they lose again.

Assuming it wasn't possible for gamblers to win then the gambling industry won't have been recording the level of patronize it's recieving. The stats most time can be deceiving although that doesn't mean they're totally incorrect as we do have gamblers who're winning it big (probably daily) due to their level of professionalism or due ri luck been on their side.

The misleading scenario aren't associated with all gambling sire although there are many who could be said to be guilty of such offense as the stats display could be manipulated to draw in more gamblers. You just have to judge your progress without having to compare with any of the stats display on the site as they can't be relied on.

not all dice gamblers often win and not all always lose, all depends on patience, mood, and luck..  I personally have thought the same as you by thinking why they keep actively playing even though their profile statistics show that they are losing, but I think some people play dice for entertainment not just for profit and some think that a miracle (big win) will arrive at him one day so that the person continues to play dice every day even though he loses.

Sure, they do! Gamblers walk away as both winners & losers, but this is no exception to only gamblers but investors and other risk-takers as such. I know people and have also witnessed wins myself, though there are times where things don't go according to plan but we keep on...

The reality is, since gambling has a house edge, you do not make any profit in the "long run" but as long as you hold that down to a reliable amount and never go aboard, you could potentially make a decent amount of profit for a while before it all goes bad. Plus if you want to just gamble for profit, the better method would be playing PVP games such as Poker where you can actually make a profit since there is no house edge, that is purely depending on your talent level versus everyone elses.

Dice type of games could yield a lot of profit for gamblers if they are lucky for a short burst, that has always happened, there have been people who made thousands of dollars worth of profit and hundreds of bitcoins in profit, that is all just a luck, as long as they keep on gambling, everyone will eventually lose.

I heard people who are casino regulars and in profit.  I have a grab driver friend and often times he got a casino player passenger and talked their gambling activities in a casino and how they keep themselves from losing.  He shared to me that these regular players often have limited play both while winning or losing.  These players often have their quota for the day, like when a player reaches $500 they stop and play another day, the same goes when the player loses $300. That is how these veterans managed to stay in the casino for years but never goes bankrupt.

Of course there are gamblers who are actually winning in that particular game, an online casino or an online gambling site needed to have a transparency in their website for them to become trusted and gain the trust of their gamblers, it is not a fake stat as what you are thinking, they are actually true and in a real time stat of daily round.


Yes, we cannot avoid losing any game since,the odds in dice game is very high, for me it is too hard to predict. Sometimes we win, and sometimes we learn. We need to keep in mind that we aren't always on the winning side.

Definitely Buddy, there are good and strategic gamblers around the globe who actually made some good starsh from gambling. Although, I can't see one can look into gambling and said that: gamblers aren't winning in gambling, gamblers won and still winning, personally, I won many times in gambling and share the winning with friends. Most especially the sport section of gambling and the dice, these are my major favorite gambling platforms which I have won some good amount of money.   

With regards to that, I do have winning experience with gambling too, way back 2017 when I hit the Dice Jackpot in Fortunejack that gives me around $15k worth of BTC, and on slots at around $10 worth of BTC and then got a position on their leadership boards, several times too.  Though I stopped for a while, and when I came back last year, I got another hit on their Dice jackpot that gives me around $2k.  I am also on a positive bankroll on Wolfbet before I stop my gambling activities there because of a busy schedule.

Pretty much if we do not let greed engulf us and knows when to stop our game session, whether we are winning or losing, we will be on the positive bankroll just like those who practiced that method.

Yes there is a way to win but the key thing is how persistence are you.  The tip is: believe that there is a way to win by beating the statistics and trying to solve existing problems:
- "You will lose in the end/ in the long run" => try to find a solution so that "long run" will be likely 100 years from now, in which you might not have a chance to witness it. This statement remain true at all time, but if you managed not to lose in your lifetime then it could be called "winning".

Here are the screenshots of my account, look and number of bets and point out yourself if it's real. Note the earning/wagered ratio (7.55%/8.32% for LTC/ETH respectly), this is the key take out, since this number is bigger than house edge, so that the moment of bursting all is yet to come. From the screenshot you might realize which site it is but actually you can win on any site as long as they are "fair" / "provably fair".

https://i.imgur.com/Mvfogaf.png

https://i.imgur.com/d6NP98t.png

That's a form of bread crumbing my friend. As you have mentioned the site provides a list pf all the people who won so far and maybe their profits and winnings. This at one glance might just seem fine or just a form of proof to show that they are a legitimate business but this is a form of breadcrumbing that gives your brain this false sense of hope by giving you the bare minimum so to speak. It gives you the illusion that because others won on our gambling site, you can too, which is generally wrong this people just barely got lucky by hitting all the required patterns that will lead to victory

Let's make this clear, you can beat the house but not within a period of continuous long betting in a single session. There are certain sessions that gambler bags a profit for a day and there are some who don't. That's why it is highly advisable that in case of luck hits and a gambler won decently, calls that a day and stop and just come back next time. In this way, their bankroll will be properly managed and will keep these gamblers in the long-run.

As for the thread topic, yes gamblers actually win. Dice sites won't run for long if no one is winning. As for the stats and you can see losing stats is higher compared to winning, it is usual. Overall amount loss is not matters anymore for these regular gamblers as long as on every session, they should at least win.

Online or actual casinos are businesses that the owner will always make the benefits and income on their side. Probably, the algorithm behind the dice is a balance, or maybe 60% to the owner and 40% to the gamblers. Every gambling site, it's always possible to win and can earn a lot but it is not a long-term luckiness since the algorithm is the one to decide if you'll win the next game or not. So it still depends on the luck you have during that day.

If the algorithm is set to make the gamblers lose the game, then it will be tag as a scam site. If someone discloses an algorithm of a gambling site, probably they will know how bias it is. That's why some people pursue to have a business of gambling sites due to benefits as an owner.

I guess in 100 people only 1 will win a huge amount in dice and very rare to happen that's how are chances are, very small. I am not against dice I have played so many times in dice but when I bet a big amount I lost but when I bet small amount I win. I don't know but this always happens to me. Maybe I am in bad luck?

Perhaps, you don't have luck in gambling, but I guess someday, you will get your luck too like other people. The chances to win gambling is not too big, and that is for people who realize the opportunity to win the money in gambling. Only a few people in one gambling website can earn a huge amount of money from dice games, and the rest will get lost in a various amount of money.

You can still play gambling, but you don't have to expect to get a win in gambling, and perhaps, you can change your reason to play dice games for searching the fun things. If you can do that, your mind will not think about winning money, and who knows, by doing that, your luck will come to you by coincidence.

Do some gamblers make some profit during playing dice then i will says yes and i'm sure at least for once in the life time people who playing dice had experience to get big won and the most difficult in gamble is how to make the profit steady and because gambling results are based on people luck then it will very unpredictable so that's why each people statistics will be so difference although they were playing same game and it's dice

Probably in terms of the game structure and the probability of winning for most of the gambling sites we have, players could really win depending on their amount of bet to various games where they play. But the true winning will not be measured here. IMO, they need to think about the post action that they need to conduct to make sure that they will grab the profit. It is to decide whether to play again or take the profit.

Basically, if we win profit in gambling, I advise that we should consider it already as a Win, and leave gambling for a moment, enjoy the earnings and wait for the time that we want to test our luck again.

Yes I think their are some gamblers that actually win and they are called professionals
But to be a professional your winnings would not come from the dice game
It will be from from gambling sports or from card games like POKER

In gambling there are people that turns negative with regards to their overall bet and there are very few gamblers who have positive output in their overall bet. So it's not impossible to win in any gambling websites but as what we have said maybe the edge of winners are likely 25% out of 100% gamblers.

There are lucky and most of the winners are wise or they have some techniques that let them win in gambling websites.

Of course there are gamblers who actually wins,
They are the reason why other gamblers doesn't quit on gambling because they are the proof that there could be someone who actually wins in gambling.

There are gamblers who win. Maybe those who know when to quit and are aware that gambling for long hours will result in losses. I sometimes gamble for long hours and most of the time this happens when I double my money or even sometimes triple my money, I lose all the time when I become greedy and try to extend playing hoping for more win. That is why it is important to know when to quit, even if you're lucky in your bets, your luck won't last for a whole day, at some point the house will get all your money before you know it.

I can confidently say that there are gamblers that actually won.

From dice games, sports bettings, cockfighting to lotteries, I knew a lot of people that gained their profit there. It is just that people are continuously betting, what I am saying here is that if a gambler continuously gambles, the more they are losing money. If a gambler continuously gambles, the higher the risk they are taking, the higher the chance they will lose.

Most of those gamblers I am saying won in lotteries and in cockfighting. They started businesses from the money they've won. Some started raising roosters that they could use or sell. Did they continue gambling? Yes, they did but the fact that they already built something proves they won.

Of course, there are actually gamblers who can win,
Especially when it comes to games like dice or lottery. This games are more on luck that is why the chances to win is very minimal. And those who can win always can be considered as really lucky or maybe they have some sort of strategy that they used to consecutively win in games.

I myself actually do some winnings in crypto gambling. It's just that, I was so greedy and my target profit is exceeding that I wanted to earn more so at the end the house will always win against me. The problem is that we can't manage well our emotions and our bank roll. Players usually win but busted so many times, too. Well, it's gambling. We should always accept the risks we should ways gamble only the amount that we can afford to lose.

Gambling wins or doesn't win depending on how a person understands what he is playing, poker, dice, balls etc.

If you are proficient in guessing and satristik gambling dice your chances of winning are 70% and if you don't understand the dice just from someone else's suggestion the chance of losing to you is 90%.

In my understanding gambling win and lose is very influential on these addicts expertise in the game.

Dalam pemahaman saya berjudi menang dan kalah sangat berpengaruh kepada si pecandu tersebut dalam perimanan. that's a common reason that is often said.

Actually yes, many people win. For example I play on cryptocurrency casinos like CryptoGamble (http://link cryptogamble.com) and to be honest never used regular ones. I find it more entertaining and more convenient 'cause I can use some of mine BTC or ETH. I take it as a fun, not as a main way to gain some income, I don't have a problem when to stop playing and that's the point.

Some people prefer to hide their winning stories from other people and keep winning for themselves. If we can know how many of them win, maybe there are not many people who win the money. In the dice gambling game itself, many people who lose their money without they realize how big money they already spend, so they still chasing the win money. But yes, the gamblers win in many gambling games.

There's no need to verify how many who wins because the obvious answer is there are more losers than winners and just like a business simple logic, when income is higher than your expenses, you'll end up profitable, that's the status of most dice gambling sites that's why they are still operating until now.

Creating a new account just to save your positive stats from an older account doesnt make sense though. It would just lead to multi accounting since most gambling sites are so strict in creating a new account.

People don't like to share their wins because it could put themselves at risk and apart from those people winning some of them have probably lost their winnings on another casino.

Yes, since the house edge is always there, and since it's working against a player, many people (at least here, on this forum) argue that everyone will lose in the long run. They do have a point to some extent, because most people will definitely lose in the long run, and not because they are greedy or anything, but because of the math: you have more chances of losing than that of winning because of the house edge. And if you think that, with a good self-control, you can always withdraw after winning a certain percentage of your balance, and thus stay in profit  continuously ... well, it can happen, but only because of luck, not because your strategy is so good. And you should always remember that in a dice game, regardless of your strategy, you are more likely to lose.

In short, people don't lose because they are greedy, and they don't win because they have great self-control, or whatever. All of that happens because of luck and luck only.

i think the ratio is too low,for me it is 2 out of 10 who wins and lose,and this is what my experience tells me .
i had been into gambling for more than 2 decades and what i learn is i only win 2x in every 10 games and sometimes it is worst than that so the thing is more chances of losing compared to winning.

Indeed!

It already proves out that the house always wins or this business is profitable due to this reason.If they werent winning in the end then we wont see lots of them.
Its indeed a simple logic or to think that there are indeed lots of losers to compensate to those who do win money while they do play gambling.
The true essence on playing gambling is to get entertainment but people goes far way beyond to that motive and messing their own lives because of it.

You should expect the chat to be misleading if there is no way to prove the claims. This doesn't mean that people don't win though. Winning reasonable amount of money shouldn't happen too often. And the numbers of big winners should be small.

I think they are after all why would they keep on coming back if they are only losing all of the time?
Most of the old gamblers could have manage to do it before and I think there are some who still manage to win most of the time.
A gambling site would run out of gamblers if no one is winning on their site.

Depends on the game but more often than not the gamblers do not win all that much, even the people who have won a lot of money from gambling has actually managed to lose all of it back while spending a lot of money during the process, just to give an example there was a poker player who said he won over 10 million dollars and then lost it all but he claims he has spent close to 2 million dollars during the process and that means he didn't "lost it all back" he just lost the ones heh as left. That kind of "win" happens all the time, I don't know if that is win or lose deal because in the end dude is left with zero but at least he has a good amount of period of time in his life that he lived like rich and that kinda means that is good enough for some people.

Gamblers can win, but only a few of them. (Whatever game it is, it's all just the same)

It is still possible to win against the gambling house because we can't call it fair if there is no gambler who can win. But the thing is, most of the time, gamblers lose to the house.

About the stats of winnings of those people that you see in live chats, it is real but it is only the amount of money they win, the amount of money they lose is always not included or not being shown to the public.

Yes, some gamblers do actually win but the ration is really very steep. Although the favor is in the house's court most of the time, but still, that is why it is called gambling - anything can happen. For example I take part in 10 gambles in a week and invest 10 bucks in total and lose 9 of them and by chance win 12 bucks in one gamble. So that will inspire me to gamble more whereas 50 more people like me are losing those 9 gambles which is a big profit for the house.  ::)

I have won few times but, the ratio to win and lose will always be 5:1. Where if I have lost 5 times I have also won 1 time. It also does not mean it happens every day, the ratio does change on some odd day but overall the house always wins.

I gamble on dice games these days and you know that it is the most dangerous and quick way to win or lose your entire capital and even more. I win a lot but sometimes lose due to that greed, greed that stops me from withdrawing or stopping the game there and come back another day. I feel like, no, I need more BTC now and my luck is doing good so why not play more? I lose everything if I keep that mindset during gambling. The best thing that I consider being a gambler is, you need to know about your mistakes and keep a track of all of them, so you will not repeat them again in your future.

Actually, the house win but never mean that the house wins all the time while we gamble. Am a full-time gambler and will opening say this; most of winnings are done with strategies, having a strategy will surely give a  win and not a lost as some assumed. Although i gamble on dice and my play doesn't accedes x20 and am okay with my gamble winnings, never be too greedy to gamble for money, ensure you have a limit against addiction.

It's an interesting point but what stats are you talking about? If there are no tricks to cheat in the dice game you are talking about, people can't beat the house edge in the majority of cases. Only few people can stay positive in the long run, the most lucky ones.

You just think that these active gamblers always manage profits because they are always in chat but in reality, most of them lose in their respective sessions and just stay active in the chatbox to somehow calm the situation or end their bad streak. Once they think it's over, they will come back again for another round and so on.

These gamblers already gained a good experience doing gambling for a long-time that's why managing their respective funds is the thing now that they can handle properly without too much difficulty. The reason why they remain active in the long-run of playing.

That is what gamblers need to accept. Never be too greedy means if we can win some money, we need to know when to stop and save the money, and not continue playing gambling because we don't know if in the next round we can win or not. It's better to keep the money in our account and withdraw while we can than to play some more. Limiting money and time will prevent addiction because we can stop at the right time, and we know that gambling can make addiction to us.

but that is easy said that done right?because when we are in gambling table our mindset is to take a winning and not enough just for smaller specially when we are seeing too much money on the table.
unless we are indeed having mindset before sitting on the table so we have direction to follow.
well this is Online Gambling i guess because real money attracts more than online,imagine you are winning and the money is in our front?the desire to add more is there because it is too tempting.

If you manage to track the stats of a particular gambler on a dice platform or any platform in general for a more extended period of time, it's generally true that these players will lose money over time due to house edge. Some people do end up winning but generally only in the short term because things eventually level out in favor of the house, and also because people typically don't always gamble a set amount of money every time for an extended period of time. You can do risk management as much as you want, but mathematically you're destined to eventually lose.

This applies most clearly to games like dice where the outcome is entirely luck.

Once we win in gambling we need to stop for a moment to hold the money so as not to get caught up again in the gambling game because if we win then play gambling again then I think defeat will await him there sometimes we are frustrated what we do and only regret it is better to stop after winning a gamble.
I have experienced this before but now I realize that it is all just lust that wants to continue playing without thinking about the risk of its defeat.

Some gamblers must be winning and those kind of successful gamblers are honestly existing but if you want to do like them then the chances for you and I is simply less than 1% only. I mean what gambling houses sharing about big win or anything like that should not be trusted and should be an example for us. We may gamble only up to our affordable limit and trying to copy anyone else's performance then we may fail vigorously. Do gamble as per your style and do not expect to win because you may not find yourself successful like most of the members of this community.

Your question sounds like that you are unable to win but why we do gamble then? This must be the question of most people here and without finding answer to that, people are simply into gambling continuously. Because, no one has time to cross check anything but they do what they already do. Must be bad IMO.

There are successful gamblers but no one could gamble successfully without losing anything. That's a part of the journey because there's no guarantee of winning all the time in gambling. Their winnings could testify that gambling still provides a good profit but that's also every site's way to attract more players.

I spent days playing dice and I always lose, I even wondered if anyone could win. as i can't win in the craps game, i just started making sports bets because it is something that i have more chances to win, if i talk about sport bets i can say that there are times that out of 5 bets i hit 3 or 4 and lose 1 or 2 bets. And sometimes I lose a lot and win little, but in the end my bankroll increases even though the increase is little

Yes, that is not easy to do, but that is what we must do if we don't want to get more losses, and we want to save our money. We need to manage our mindset so we can know that enough is enough, and we can stop to enjoy our winning. If we can only get small winning, then that will be enough for us to stop gambling because we will have another day to winning again.


I have that experience, and because of that, I losses some more money, which I am winning. That makes me realize that when I am winning after playing for some time, I need to stop gambling and leave the gambling website.


Yes, we need to take a rest for a while and rest our minds so we can prevent the tempting that can be bigger than before. In the next rounds, we can get lost, and the money that we won previously can be gone too. We will regret our decision to continue playing gambling if we lose, and we will think that stopping from gambling will be the best decision to do.

Logically thinking there are gamblers that are winning that is why they keep on participating on this sites. On the other side, the house too are winning also that is why they are still operating. Whatever happens it is more likely that the house will still be winning and we can assure that the owner of a gambling site is earning profit massively.

though they are winning sometimes(in which very limited for sure) also losing is the most part of it right?so in that sense is it is not the winning that bringing them back but only the desire to win.
if the gambling site is established and legit then for sure this will earn more because Gambling sites owner nowadays are profiting because you can see them staying here for more than years means they are contented in what gambling bringing them.

yeah one of the best games now when talking about gambling is sports (though this is a very long gambling) i remember when i was young there are a card betting games for basketball that i mostly wins because i am very familiar with the team and players but of course with Luck for us to win.
way back those days?i can say i am winning but these days?lol it is more on losing than wins.

Right, it is most likely stats coming from the creators pretending to be an active gambler just to attract peoples attention. Gambling is all about business and businessmen so anything they can just to increase profits. Gambling is only good in the early games because they will let you win and if your lucky you’ll win the jackpot but if you will continue to gamble, the longer you gets the closer you are to the house edge and once you very close the chances of winning is very low thus, most people fall for it and instead they lose everything.

Well, we all know that part of the users that are active on chats "belong to the house", same as on most exchanges... they are there to encourage gamble/investment... but anyway, there are always exceptions, and I think some people do win sometimes, but these must be exceptions, otherwise there wouldn't be so many casinos, and they wouldn't be so filthy rich...  ;D

I think those people who keep saying that the house always wins just always get losing and blaming always the house.
Since for me, we have different gamblers; there are some gambling that there's no 'house' or either you lost 100%, or win 100%.
But overall, there are many losers that winner for sure, since you should also acknowledge the fee or house if ever you using some on your gambling.

Every gambler need luck to win some uses smart one if you are a smarter gamblers you can win and less loses. Because once you win you gonna stop gambling then better to keep your winning then go gambling again tomorrow or in another day. So gambling need luck and be smart for you to win.

Yeah, those who stay in gambling and give their time to so many gambling sites so they win and get profit at the end. In gambling, there are so many winners people who give proper timing to gaming and in the end they surely win. So no doubt those who win are ACTU ally winning and we also should try to win instead of only relying on luck.

People who manages to gain some profits are the ones who can control their selves because if a person know that after so many wins, there is a time that they will lose their bets. I think, there is no problem with the stats because a player can't change the data on the website. So, people sometimes gain profits from gambling since it's all about the luck.

Yes, you are right. Some people who can win in gambling games, they have control of themselves, but many of them are losing their winning because they are too greedy to chase another winning. And if that is related to the stats, I think the stats automatically wrote once a gamblers win the games. But I believe that some gamblers can really win in the gambling games, they can stop gambling when they win, they can be able to control themselves once they win or lose, so they can still have the money.

The reality inside this activities and the very reason why many bankers start their journey to this venue of business. It's indeed true that there are people who win decently but more of those people also suffered from big losses, if gamblers keep winning from this the industry will not grow as big as it now.
Operators are not charitable institutions who will allow to keep bringing money to their participants, they are always taking the high advantage and collecting money from gamblers who can't manage to control their gambling habits.

Some are winning of course and some are not, one thing is for sure the house or the owner of the casino gets a lot of profit even though there are players winning.
It is very common that there are players that doesn't win even how many times they try, it is purely base on luck and no strategy available to hack it.

It is just a matter of luck and chances so definitely, there are people who experienced winning and some of them became rich from gambling which tempts other player to also gamble hopinh that they would also be rich from playing. Profit is simply what encourages a player to gamble.
But even in strategical gambling games, luck is the bottomline. Perhaps in cardgame, if you won't be lucky, the cards that you would get won't be winning cards so no matter how smart you are as a gambler, those who would be lucky will surely be the ones to win.
That is a fact. Gamblers are not aware of how much the loss is. They do tend to count only the times wherein they won not realizing that their loss is bigger than their gain. This can also be the stigma of gambling addiction.

There are some gambling site that you win the game, it is not true that all of the gambling sites are made for the owner or the owners are the only who wins the game because as far as I know, there is already a gambler who became a millionaire because of winning the game of horse race and because of that thing it concludes on my mind that there are existing gambling website that you may win and not only the owner.

Indeed, there will be no gamblers that will play if they know that they have no chance of winning the game, there will be no gambler that will waste his time and money for that. Of course, there are still some gambling sites that you can play to win the game, such as roulette, blackjack, horse race, and may others.

And in addition to that, slots depend completely on luck, so you can't improve the outcome of the game, no matter how many times you play, how many books you read, or videos you watch(which normally helps to play poker better, for example).

For some weird reason, I'm in profit from playing slots, although the house edge of this game is 2.9% and higher, on the sites I play it. And I'm in loss from playing dice, despite the fact that its house edge is just 1%.

Yes, of course, because many gamblers has many experience in gambling and they have a lot of strategies that they know because they have also many experience in playing gambling. But in winning in once game is need to be lucky always, a once gambler also find their luckiness in playing gambling because understanding and making strategies is not enough to win every game it needs to have a lucky charm. If the lucky is not there in their chosen gambling platform they are not able to play with it, they will find another gambling platform that will surely win.

Gamblers win of course but they find losing more than wins and that is the reality of being gambler as what you also said Luck is the weapon to win.
though there are "Few gamblers" that make a  living in this field yet not enough to cover the losses.
do you know that Gambling site is one Business that never lose?specially if you already established your company and have mane players already.

I agree, gamblers who can think critically while winning are those gamblers who has control with their money. If a gambler lets his/her emotion run his decisions, the ending will always be losing all of the money.  I knew a gambler who is always lucky at first, but he can't stop himself from playing that's why he always lose his money. If he knows when to stop and knows how to assess his emotions. He should've won.

Gamblers do really win in gambling but they are not lucky enough to win everyday or every game because it is much often for a gambler to lose than to win in gambling, that is why no one actually have become rich from playing gambling. The only people can actually be rich from gambling are casino owners because all of our losses are their earnings.

I think there are some gamblers who really win and became rich after they play gambling, Considering we know that professional poker players win big amounts when they play on a table that make them rich. There are also lowkey gamblers who really win one time bigtime and got themselves rich after that, One of the examples is lottery winners, Winning an enormous amount of money is one in lifetime luck that a gambler possibly get.

Yeah, gamblers actually win. I have seen lot of players winning huge amount of coins placing large bets or with small bets with high multiplier. You are correct. The house edge here plays a huge factor. People can win in the short run, but if you keep playing, you are eventually bound to lose. In the long run, it is the house that will always win due to the house edge. If everyone had the same chance of winning, then casinos would go bankrupt. They would be risking more than their users!

Of course yes. The gamblers are actually winning in every gambking session or in any playing matter but the thing is if you compute all over your losses in gambling it would probably make that the losses is more large or huge to the amount of money that you have been won. That's the fact! That's why many peolle says that no gambler ot no one is winning whenever they are playing or gambling.

Gamblers always defend their action they post their wins but ignore their losses, in fact they do not calculate their losses, some gamblers do win but ask him about his losses and he will be mum about it, it's part of their defense mechanism so they can continue to gamble

Gambling is really a crucial game of chances. It’s either win or lose and there’s nothing in between. I believe some gamblers win, while other lose. Basically, gambling has a 50-50, 40-60, 30-70, probability of winning and losing, depends on what game you're playing. It is a risk a gambler loves to play to know which end will the odd take him.

Some gamblers win big because of the strategy and technique they developed over time while playing inside the casinos or even online websites. These kind of gamblers know how to manage their money properly and know their limitations, thus, resulting in winning. However, there were also some gamblers that lose big because of poor strategy and mishandling of money. These kind of gamblers do not have self-control hence, losing big amount of money than what they already won. These are the people so obsessed in eyeing the jackpot not noticing they already spent way too much than they should.

It’s just a matter of strategy, technique, right handling of money, and a little sprinkle of luck for the odds to be on your favor.

Every person in playing gambling has their respective strategies. And the advantages and disadvantages will always be different. I am sure that every gambling player will benefit, and some will get profits and make withdrawals. And after that play again, but in the end lost. So just like that the way, as long as a hobby can be channeled.

Come to think that gambling industry is huge and profitable thats why lots of investors trying to make one due to that kind of fact.Lots of people losing thats why it can be considered as money making
business or in short profitable one due to that house edge.There are times that some players do make big wins but those would be break even out on a short span of time by those losers who do play on the site
and thats the real story. We would able to see an unequal ration between winners and losers.

The short answer would be yes, there are people who actually win in gambling. If you look at it in a bigger perspective, you will have to consider how many losses the player have also incur, if you put it simply there will be less people that actually won in gambling in terms of profit.

Definitely yes. I am sure some gamblers can win in gambling, no matter how much they win the money. But I won't believe if someone tells that he can win big money in gambling even if he shows the proof because I don't know if he really wins that money or not. I think it is better they keep silent of their winning and don't tell other people about the winning.

As you are asking about "Some Gamblers" so Yes they are winning at least sometimes and those expert can win most of the time.

but one thing is fore sure,regular gamblers always win and the price is Happiness and thrill because this is what the real meaning of enjoying gambling and only addiction and greed change this to profiteering.

but in totality nope,Gamblers always a loser in terms of money but winner of fun.

Yes some actually win but rarely, if you're lucky and play gambling often you'll produce an strategy that's profitable especially in HILO games. I also won a sports bet and they've actually pay with the odds that i bet on. So yeah, plus you could see live stream chat that people announcing their wins and who got rekt.

Those gambling sites that shows the status of players bets are transparent and worth betting in my opinion.

Of course. If no one wins in gambling, then why are we still gambling, right? The thing is, winning is not always given to us. We are lucky if we win but not if we don't. Not all the time, we experience winning so we keep on playing with the aim of getting profit. You can earn in dice but not to the point that you will always win. So basically, earning profit still depends on us.

If we get contented with what we had won, then that's the time we earned a profit. But if you're not contented, and still keep on betting until you have lost all your winnings, it's your fault for losing it at the end.

Win from gambling do really exist, but that requires a real work and real dedication of time,
There has always been peoples who living from just gambling (maybe some forms preconized) but gambling. but as you can think they dedicate a real work to for that

The house edge will always be against you no matter where you play.

Technically your best chance of winning big would be to bet one large bet and then walk away with your winnings or accept your losses if you lose.

The more you play, the closer towards the expected result you will drift.

However, I don't think anybody has actually played once and then walked away, the allure of potentially winning more is too strong.

Not exactly but they are certainly based on the website through which you play. Certain gambling companies like FJ, Playbetr, freebitco, Cryptogames are honest and fairer towards the gamblers. Certain game winnings are based upon strategies which could be implemented by the gambler instead of playing a luck based game. If the game tend to favor the house for majority of the time, then the gambling website isn't running a provably fair casino.

If we tend to bet with higher price money and larger multipliers, the probability of winning the game would be absolutely less and we would be losing what we have paid for the gamble. It could be better if we diversify the winnings instead of spending all our money on a single game with a higher multiplier.

This isn't true. Consider a scenario like, you have placed a bet for 1BTC with 2x multiplier in a dice game. You have somehow lost the dice game to the house, will you be able to win in the next game? There isn't a probability which works this way but exactly the opposite. Winning in a dice game with higher multipliers are completely luck driven and has nothing to do with the number of times we lose a particular game.

I think some players win sometimes, as well as there are losers. We just have to be clear that gambling is pure fun and luck. Although some gambling reviews say otherwise. If you are passionate play dice, try following some tips you can get online, practice them and try them live.
When you're ready to go, bet only what you have, do not exceed your limit.

If nobody win in gambling than be rest assure that nobody will join the industry to gamble. Am a gambler but with minimal tolerant to lose while gambling. For those who choose to gamble recklessly will be on the motion that, nobody wins in gambling because for them its always difficult to win. Although, when there's no pains there will be no gains, so, without a win nobody  will develop interest for gambling.

 Personally, I love gamble because I choose to keep myself busy and entertain. Frankly speaking, winning in gambling  though difficult but when get it right you win definitely.

If we will talk about my younger years?yes i really did won in Gambling few times ,had won in Boxing with Big amount,in Basketball also and in Lottery though i did not get the jackpot but at least i won a 4 digits (in our local currency)

but if you will going to live with gambling?then this is not that winnable as for long term.
as what i have said,if you will not take it as a profession ?this is profitable but if does then another story to tell because this is not that Good without a Luck.

Well there are actually people who became millionaires and billionaires in gambling. To name a few, British soldier Jon Heywood won €17.87m from £0.25 in online gambling. Another one is Neil from Aberdeen, Scotland, won an amazing prize just an hour after making his first deposit with online casino Casumo. Neil deposited £30 and wagered £4 on a spin on Hall of Gods before hitting the jackpot. (Source: cashformoney website, article written by Stefan, published in the year 2018).

I do think that people like them do inspire other gamblers to play despite of losing. Such stories are where some gamblers got their interest and desire, simply to be like those people. But such mentality has a downfall. By playing more often and losing more, there is a tendency that such gamblers would be addicted into it. They are bringing gambling to another level, which is definitely wrong because this habit would drag anyone down once your beinh much into it.

Yeah, it is not advisable to live with gambling. We don't have a chance to win in the long term, but we have an opportunity to get lost. He can choose what he wants, but we hope that he knows what he should choose. We can only give a suggestion to him, but he needs to choose what is right for him. It's okay playing gambling some time, but we need to break out for a while to prevent the addiction.

depends on what is your definition of long term because i know alot of succes stories on gambling  .

 these gamblers also plays gambling for many years and decades but they only know how to stop temporarily once they earn already a profit and then they know how to comeback again after some days or week . 

gambling only becomes unwinable if you continue playing and playing even if you already win a profit because the time comes that the game will change  .this is the failure of many gamblers .

if we make a poll if a gambler, ever wins? then I'm sure 100% of the poll says yes...
but the winning ratio of each gambler differs depending on the luck of the gambler, ps; I lost more - than I won  :D

Most cases are the same, it's more on the losing side than the winning part, but gamblers who loves to play and enjoy the set up will continue.
In terms of winning it will going to depend from how a gambler treat things. If player is satisfied with decent earnings and quit while still in
positive it's how you control yourself in order to say that you are winning and earning from this business.

Do you really think that the whole casino business in the would would be able to live forever if there was absolutely nobody winning?

I mean surely the house edge makes sure that you lose "in the long term" but if lets say you go into casino with 10k, you go to roulette table, you put it all on red, it actually comes red and than you get another 10k, leave with your 20k and go home, can anybody stop you?

Is there a way that NEVER happens? Of course not, you can do that and you can win. The only thing that makes the casinos happy is the fact that thanks to house edge there are thousands of people play there all the time, which results with that house edge actually making a profit because winners do not win as much as the losers lose and that difference is their profits.

well, I agree with what you say because many case people before gambling they have confidence that they can get a lot of profit from their own way and are very confident, but when they have tried gambling, many of them say they are not in line with expectations.

I'm not sure, even if you gamble in the right way in the end you will also lose, gambling is no strategy that really gives a victory except when you play together with luck.  in my opinion the level of winning ratio between gamblers and bookie is 30% -70%.

You can win for a day, but that doesn't mean that you'll always win because maybe you're just luck that day. Gambling is risky, we all know that, we have no idea about the results of our gambling. The probability of losing and winning is inversely proportional and the chances of losing always prevail. In reality, gambling is not for a long term way of getting profit, some people treat as for an entertainment purposes only to relieve their stress. But some people are relying on gambling because their mindset is that, gambling will really change their lives, they think that it will give them huge amount of profit if they risk their money to it. I knew a lot of people who suffer and regret playing gambling, they are greedy and the urge of being rich is there that's why they can't control themselves to spend their money until it was over. I learned a lot from them that's why I have a broad knowledge when it comes to dangers of gambling.

The way i see it since i am a former gambler(addicted to be specific) the shorter play time you gamble is the more chances of winning but of course small amount only and not that huge but at least it is a Win compared to Longer playing with Big target but in the end lose is what you've got.

Mmm, Maybe you are right. But I guess that not all gamblers can have success stories in gambling, right?

I guess that gamblers are pro gamblers who can always control themselves, and I am sure that they can make a profit in gambling too.

But we know that many gamblers fail in gambling because they push themselves to reach something that they cannot win without having luck.


If you play for a small amount and for a shorter time, losing the money will not be a problem, but if you use a big amount, then that will cause a problem. If you say that can give more chances of winning, I don't think so because no matter you play in a long time or short time, if you don't have luck, then you will be difficult to win.

As they always says "Nothing is impossible" and it really is.
They are saying this because most of the gamblers are experiencing losses so in their minds, they think that it is impossible already to win in gambling. It all goes down to the attitudes of the gambler.

There are some gamblers who are getting some profits but there are only few of them and most of them are ending up losing. You can consider a gambler who is gambling everyday an active gambler but it doesn't mean that they will gamble all the time. Yes they are gambling everyday but I think there is a specific amount that they are using for gambling. Not all regular gamblers are active in chat box though so you can't judge them that easily that they will stop once they got the profit already. There are some regular gamblers who are not chatting at all and focused on gambling.

but there is a Knowledge that can bring you to win specially if you are playing Sportsbetting.

Like example Basketball or soccer when you are very familiar with the players,Coach or even the Opposite team,there will be a chance that you have the advantage than the disadvantage.

Like me if i Bet in our local Basketball since i am very familiar in their games i have a Big opportunity of winning which team to take.

and also In boxing,it is not more on Luck right?it is about the capacity of fighter how to defeat their opponents .

definitely, in some sites the information is verifiable and there's also the lindy effect (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lindy_effect) for gambling sites (even for them!)
so some people may win at random but of course the house will always have their edge.

the point is that the house can't pay more rewards than they earn with other gamblers losing their bets.

If you are playing with skills and you are good in analyzing situations then the chance is really good, you can win but don't completely relied on it as luck is not always at your side, even you already did everything and you are expecting the win chances that things can turned against you is possible, it won't be called gambling if you are always gonna win.

I knew some gamblers who made lot of money from gambling but they never had gambling as source of income so it all ties with everyone's luck not with any kind of strategies.So yes there are people who won more than they lost but why gambling business is still profitable even after they are paying huge rewards is that house got better odds of winning than any player.

I think it is possible. Many users probably use some type of strategy to win. That means they aren't necessarily putting all in all the time. They might only be doing pennies. I think over time many people will lose, but there are also people who in the end will come out ahead.

To be honest, in my opinion, their are so many gamblers that actually lost than actually winning in most of the gambling website, When I was just starting in gambling, playing in a gambling website was actually a game that I think i could never win because it was just every time like for example in a betting game you could actually win for a few rounds but for sure in the end you are just going to lost all of your profit.

This was just the normal thing to think if you are just getting started in gambling but after experience or experiment in the game itself. It turns out you could actually win it with luck but of course, you cannot win all the time. Still, it was just depending in luck sometimes you are going to get a big profit in just a small-time so I guess you better stop playing or cash out already  ;D

Of course there are professionals who make money on sports betting! But to do that, you need to know a lot more about sports events than ordinary people... Maybe even have some insides!

As for slot machines, it seems to me that it is impossible to win here all the time! It's more fun than making money...

Lots and lots of professional gamblers experience good winning, but the success can be defined based on the winning that is carried forward. Very few have a good track record of continued winning, while majority experience win and further loss everything within a very short time period.

The mistake or the lack of understanding about gambling results in loss. Every gamblers could've won atleast once, but for the same everyone isn't a winning gambler.

Recently I suffer an addiction to gambling (Because of this fucking quarantine). So this kind of question also comes to my mind then my mind answers me "No, they will just ruin your life". I gambling to look for enjoyment but what happens to me is the opposite of what I'm looking for.

Obviously, most gamblers over a long distance will have a negative balance (losses). But some of them will be in plus even after thousands of bets. This is explained purely mathematically: out of a million players, someone (purely by accident) makes an almost always successful bet.

Whatever gambling is against the house at least we cannot do it continuously or I mean, we must be able to realize the right time to continue betting or stop immediately and at least that is the experience I have experienced, it is also part of the way we manage victory or keep funds or capital still good because then at least we have good control so that we will be able to realize the time to continue or stop, when the results are bad in the initial roll several times then at least we will try the roll again in a few hours later and that is a control that we must realize in gambling against house.

Those who suffer from gambling addiction will understand your arguments and will agree with the mentioned points. House edge melts the risk/reward ratio and beating the house edge is impossible. Every possibility is calculated statistically, long term gambling is not fun, it is called gambling addiction. That is why everyone suggests gambling when you feel boring or emotionally drained with money management.

If you do earn for profits then expect for that kind of behavior because people do seek entertainment wont mind if they do loss or not as long they do able to get the fun the do seek.
Of course there are gamblers that do actually win but we know the ratio of losers is high compared to it.Money making is what most people do target of thats why in the end of the day
most of them or majority being wrecked up by the house and this is why gambling industry is profitable due to this kind of behavior of most people.

Gamblers do actually win and earn a huge profit from playing gambling. The only reason why gamblers lose a lot of money in gambling because they are pushing themselves to earn huge profit again and become so greedy that they think they could win in their next bet. So it is better to control yourself and to stop playing if you are experience a lose streak because you may get back all of your losses next time.

I work for Degens (https://Degens.com) betting exchange and 36% of our customers are long term winners. Betting exchanges have a higher win rate because punters can choose their own odds. IE) They will get +110 on coin flips, whereas a sportsbook user gets -110.

I'd suspect the amount of winners at sportsbooks to be in the 7% range as it's extremely difficult to beat the vig in the long run.

As long as he can manage his money and control his emotion on gambling, that will be okay, and he can play anytime he wants. But most people will lose that thing if they play too long and they cannot remember that things will be gone if they still playing gambling. We should realize that losing money is something that we can get in gambling, but if we are lucky, we can win some cash. So you need to leave when you think it is enough to play gambling.

I know someone who actually win but I only seen this on tv and I think this kind of game only exist in my country. (But I am not really sure of that). Well, I just want to share this video from one of the famous TV show.
Video url of the winner : https://youtu.be/H_jILsnmo5Q (https://youtu.be/H_jILsnmo5Q)
So some gamblers actually win ? Yes. But luck is not for all so let us not assume that we can won easily on gambling. It is still risky after all.

It is not gambling anymore if no one is winning on it, it should be called capitalism, where the owner of the business always after so much huge profits where it forgot to share something on its client, which are gamblers.

I agree on the fact that they need to let us win even if it is just sometimes or when we're not expecting it, otherwise it would be boring, it will turn out to be a low-key stealing money on their clients, which is bad to their reputation and business if they wanted a long term business as well as profits.

Well I wouldn't say it's as extreme as that. Based on pure statistics just under half of people should walk away as winners.

Assuming a casino has a house edge of 2%, this means that 48% of people walk away winners assuming they only bet once. However, most people bet more than once, hence this multiplier is applied to each successive bet, which means they gradually lose more and more money.

This is exactly why more casinos will do what they can to ensure players wager multiple times, rather than just a large one and done bet.

Well, you may be right but luck wouldn't come to those who have not even a single strategy in gambling, this has been a fact and not just Fancy. We shouldn't portray some unverified proofs about gambling, gambling actually can come through luck but that doesn't mean without strategy your luck will shine Rather. Although, the house always win but with some good strategy as a gambler you can strike the winning button

Some gamblers really win i believe that if we don't stop gambling we can really win on it some people really didn't have luck on gambling and they always lose. Sometime we need to be more pratical if we are not lucky on gambling we can still have some many options to choose to earn a huge amount of profit.

You are right, few people are very lucky to make money while gambling, there are some people who keep on loosing their money in gambling, even though they try different approaches, but they fail to make through gambling, if we are not continuously not making money through gambling better we need to shift to other things to make money.

I think there is no difference between taking 2% of a large rate or 2% of a lot of small ones. But it’s very difficult to convince people to make one big bet. It is much easier to convince them to make many small bets. All sorts of bonuses, rakebacks, free spins, etc. are aimed at this.

Gamblers wanted to win using different strategy that came out from their minds, they wanted to keep trying their luck using those approach thinking that day will come and they will win but afterwards once luck showed up greed follow, most of the time instead of quitting with a win the other things happened.

Then they end up losing. This is to clearly understand that luck isn't with us all the time. That is why being a gambler we need to control ourselves and not being control by our emotions and greediness. This will be a reason why we suffer losses instead of winning but we let this thing happen because of being greedy.

But they sometimes don't know that most gambling games have no effective strategy to win and they are all about luck. Actually, we need to be smart gamblers, don't gamble blindly and just play with the confidence only. Please learn and read more everything about gambling games that we are playing, then you know what you must do with them. If they are just luck-based games, don't think too much of strategy and don't stupid to force your luck there.  :D

Greed is part of human nature but not all does really have a good control of this behavior and this is the main reason why gambling
industry is so successful or becomes vast due to people that have the same motive from time to time when they do gamble.They becoming
out of control when it comes to finances and spend money all that they can until they go broke or wreck out their lives into the fullest.
Of course there would be winners but mostly are losers in the end of the game.

Some go home with wins, however, the problem is some people do not stop gambling the moment they win a decent amount of money. They push their lock until they end up losing everything. Sometimes greed pushes people to do stupid things, that is why it's the hous that always win.

Some gamblers win, some others lose. That will always like that, but the gambler who can win will also change. Some of them will not tell other people that they win some money, but some of them are busy to show off to other people about their winning. But we will see that only some gamblers who can always remember that their winning is because luck and they decide to stop right after they got the money.

Yes, but it's not that some gambliers win all the time and some lose all the time. To my opinion every gambler has gone through both of these phases this way or the other.
You might have luck for a while but that will not last forever so never.be too selfconfident and always respect your limits.

Even if people who gamble have 100% intelligence, I'm not sure they will experience continuous victory.
In gambling there are no tricks that are really valid, it all depends on luck.  And it will not last long because at other times the luck is no longer together and in the end they lose.  So in my opinion there isn't or there will never be anyone who really wins from gambling as long as they still want to play.

Yes they do and there's a lot of evidence to that. There were examples of  people breaking the bank and taking as much as it was possible from online casinos.

Casinos need these people to win because they work like those lottery wins where you hear about someone wining millions and start to dream what you'd do in his place.
This pushes people to play and so it goes.

Remember that people win on regular basis but for 1 person to win there have to be a lot more losers.

Emotions really the killer if you don't know how to control it then the chances of losing will always be there in your side. But if you do have a good glimpse and know how things should be treated then you are good to go and expect that chances of winning is not slim.
Gamble the money that you can afford to risk and focus with controlling your own self will to quit once its needed to stay out.

Emotions to get back what you lose, emotions to get money because you saw one person earning through it and lot of other emotions that triggers one person even not a regular one; newbie in a sense. Well, they say experience makes us grow and all those losses people get, they learn from it and that makes them the badasses gamblers, seen few documentaries of it.

Gambling is solely based on your luck, the reason that it appeals to many people is the prize that you can win, a $20 can become a $200 in a snap. The stats are there to give hope to other players and make them think irrational, it is my opinion but I think that the stats are just there to attract more customers. You can still play but you need to watch out for games that have a lesser house edge like Blackjack or Poker. I don't have any testimonial story about blackjack but with poker I can assure you that the house will not be involved, the players are your opponent so there is more chance for you to win large sums.

That is good advice for every gambler who thinks that they can get lucky many times they played gambling. We cannot deny that some gamblers will feel more confident, especially if they win more than 3 times in a row. If they cannot realize that it is just because of luck, and luck will not come again in the next round, they will feel hurt in the next round if they lose, and they will keep playing until their money finally is gone.

gambling composes of so many games and yeah most of them are relying strictly in Luck and there are no strategy at all.
But in Sportsbetting there are some other gamblers that is good because they know the strategy and they have skills to make a win more than losses.
Just like in Soccer or even Basketball there are bettors that good in this games and they can analyze what will happen to the match and what is the winning team(of course not 100 %)

Sports betting is very different from roulette or other slot machines... There are no statistics in the slot machines, and in sports betting there is... So luck is certainly necessary here, but it is not in the first place!

I agree, I think gamblers who always win are those who has control. Those who can still think critically even if they are winning. They know when to stop. Some gamblers continue betting and that is the very reason of their lost. All gamblers can win in the first place anyway, but winners and losers will be determine depending on when they decided to stop betting.

Well, I guess many of the sites can add fake information about players just to distract newcomers with misleading stats, etc. Also, in general, it's hard to get big profits with gambling afaik same as with casinos but some people have great luck and win big amounts of cash. Additionally, I suppose many gamblers who try to make their living by using it try to use maths, strategies and other stuff to make it more likely happen. Thus there's no exact answer to your question it all depends on a context.

Those gamblers who are frequently win in gambling are the one who have high knowledgeable and also skillful gambler. Luck is also factor but not always luck can make us win and that is why we should also have skills that we should develop if we want to have consistent earning in gambling. As you said control is also required, managing our emotions are important if we want to become aware on what we feel and what thoughts that we have because it can help us to think more better.

I think most of the people are taking the idea of the house always wins in a literal way, how? Because for me, there is always a chance to win, there's always a probability to win and the phrase "house always wins" for me should be taken as not holistically, but profit based in a long term. There are gamblers that are winning in casinos, it is just that, the house is the one that provides the services and they deserve to have income, they are gaining more and has a definite chance of gaining compared to gamblers in the long run. Gamblers have their chance based on luck, but the house's chance is constant.

   Odds determine chances we have! The hardest to win is lottery, too many people, odds for winning with
one ticket are 0.0000 something. But there are other games where chances to win are much higher.
   I love to bet on sports, and in sport anyone can try to make some money. It's not so hard, but not
for greedy people who wish to win a lot with minimal bets. Now when sport games are canceled I have
fun with casual crypto-games like plinko, dices and crash, and I can say chances to win are OK, I am winning
but I quit after I win couple thousand satoshis! Point is to not be greedy and you can win most of the time, but
for greedy people sooner or later comes losing game!

Actually, sometimes they're comparable... For example, football - you can know as much as you want about teams and statistics of personal meetings, even about the health of players... But the referee can show a red card and assign penalties... And all your calculations will be in vain! So luck still means a lot!

Just like trading, most people lose because they don't understand what they are getting into. They don't understand odds and risk management, they don't understand that the odds are likely to be against them.

However, just because most lose, doesn't mean it can't be profitable. You just need to be aware that more likely than not, you're going to lose more than you win, or possibly even bankrupt yourself.

Don't forget that most of them become greed if they win, and that makes them play longer than usual. If they can know that enough is enough, I think they will have a chance to manage their money and their winning because they will see that they should get out from gambling after they got some money. However, not all gamblers can do that because every gambler will have their reason to play gambling. And when they can realize about controlling themselves, then they are the real winner in gambling.

When it comes to games related only to luck and having a house edge, it is mathematically obvious that the longer someone plays, the more certain their loss is.
Only in games where, apart from luck, experience and knowledge that allow you to gain an advantage, can it be profitable.
That's why I think that in games related only to luck, such as, for example, slot machines or roulette, there is no possibility that they will be profitable over time. Games such as betting on sport or poker, along with growing experience and knowledge, can be profitable.

I agree that in the long term you can't beat the house on the games based on luck. But I know few people (but only few) who manage to stay on the plus side year after year. But they gamble only on sport and play poker. They never play games based purely on luck.

How it will be possible for those few people. If there is an exception in luck based gambling that could be due to some illegal methods or due to some extraordinary super power. I agree that sportsbetting and poker are skill based gambling on-which anyone could stay profitable for year after year. But, like you mentioned on your first statement I guess it would be too difficult for anyone to be profitable in long run with luck based gambling.

I do not agree with OP. In my opinion, no one could win consistently yes even with skill based gambling. Because, for consistent winning you must have high level of discipline which may not be possible with an entertainment because there are plenty of chances for you to slip down somewhere when you are too excited about your entertainments.

That is correct. The side which has the edge, however small it may be, will always prevail in the end. In the shorter term, it could happen that the lucky ones will get the upper hand, but we all know that luck cannot sustain. Sooner or later, it will be gone. House edge, on the other hand, remains in place.

But it does not mean that there are no winners on the players' side. I am talking about random games such as dice. Quite frankly, I am as curious as the OP why there are some who are regularly rolling that dice but keep on maintaining their net green. 

What do you mean understand the risk and odds? I think there aren't any ways in order to predict winning in gambling, or to somehow manage to control your winnings because in gambling, what we can just do is to limit our losses by being disciplined enough in betting enough amount of our funds. Winnings on the other hand is quite hard to get.



This is probably the reason why they think that house always win in this way. But I think considering to be aware that we aren't most likely win will not benefit us any good. If we are a normal person and we know we will not win, we will probably don't have a motivation to continue what we are doing. Sometimes, we need to be always positive and think of positivity when it comes to gambling and betting, this will allow us to continue playing despite of knowing the fact that the odds of winning isn't likely.

Oh man, is my english really that bas that no one understand me? I said (the part in bold) that those people gamble only on sport games and play poker. So I don't understand where you read that they play luck based games?

Yes of course, there are some some gamblers became rich because of gambling and because of winning jackpot prize. Even though on a simple gambling with low odds of winning we can still win, but actually the owner of the gambling website or the casino gambling because whatever happens they will still be the winner they will still have profit especially if there are so many gamblers try thr gambling.

But I have one question if you compare your winning prize and the money you spent in gambling, do you still consider yourself that you win the prize?

Surely if you are a beginner in gambling you surely have doubts when it comes to winning since most of the time when your a newbie you will loss a lot.
Gambling is a win or lose situation. In gambling you cannot be sure if you would win or lose. The beat thing that you can do in gambling is just gamble what you can. Do dot give all your coins because if you lose you will loss everything you have. In gambling if you gamble a lot and you won you will jave a lot. But if you gamble a lot and lose you will loss a lot. You will not always win daily because gamble is a luck. If you are lucky on that specific day you may win but if not better luck next time dude. In coins you must be intelligent in making decisions in able to succeed.

I doubt that gamblers are going to answer that question, LOL.

Often times, gamblers are going to tell you story of their success, big wins or jackpots. However, when they are on a losing spree, then will keep quite about it because after all they don't want to be identified as a loser here, actually everyone does. So it is still a personal preference, and whether they want it to admit it our not, chances are most gamblers have lost so much money in their gambling journey.

This is one of the reason why people are losing but for me this isn't the main reason.

For me, people are losing because of their own attitudes. Most of the gamblers who are winning often becoming more greedy since they see that they can win more if they continue. They don't know that this is a trap for them. The problem for most of the gamblers is that, they don't have any plans if they are either winning or losing. If they win, they will still continue to gamble until they lose all of their money and if they lose some of them are going back to get their losses which is a wrong idea.

Gambling is a game of luck. All of the gamblers who got the jackpot are just lucky. Most of the people are losing in gambling but it can be profitable too as long as you have plans as you gamble. In the end, if you aren't lucky then you will not gain any money :D.

I believe if you control your emotional and use proper plan toy can win. However mostly whenever people win a game will play with  the money once again and again until they lose and leave. that's just because people are greedy and this greediness will just never stop.

Gamblers do win, even new gambler win but you cannot hear them talk their losses only their winnings, this is is to justify their gambling activity, I also do that every time I win, I tell my friends about it but kept quiet when losing, I guess it's part of defending mechanism of justifying why we gamble. 

Same thoughts. In betting, the common probability is 50-50, it's either you win or lose. So obviously a gambler can win and nothing is unusual with that. People are not often to talk about winnings and losings when you're an avid gambler. Sometimes winning is not enough when your recent streak is a loss, so people don't bother to share it with others but normally people/gamblers win in gambling.

Due to the fact that it is psychologically easy to talk about your winnings and it is very difficult to talk about your defeats, beginners who read about gambling think that many players win. If they knew objective general statistics, then they would never have tried to make money in gambling since they understood that this was almost unrealistic.

It depends on which game you're playing. If you play card game like poker, you can win, even on the long run.
It's the same for sport betting, you can win if you have skills for that.

No, to have a consistent winning you are right that it is almost impossible but the reason is wrong. The correct reason is that luck is also involved in a skill based game and that luck factor is enough to turn the tide of the game against your favor. So in the end it all seems like a dice roll does it not?

Actually sports betting and poker are games loved by many players so they bet on them and put in a lot of money there. They either do analysis on sports, learn poker and try to compete. They do win but not always. Every responsible gambler knows that and so they keep a limited amount to be spent on gambling only.

It seems to me that playing poker or betting on sports is very similar to trading! Where can constantly earn about 6% of traders, and the rest lose money!
Probably approximate statistics in gambling...

^ Gamblers may really win but not all a daily basis. Winners may win today but definitely they may lose on the succeeding days. Those testify that they won and earn profit from gambling probably they only won on that particular day. Nevertheless, the stories of those gamblers are also part of advertisement that will encourage everyone to join and play gumbling.

Yes, gamblers do win but it is very seasonal. There is only a little chance for every gambler to win and I think it depends on the game that they are playing if it is base on luck or their skills.
Most of the time, those who are active in chat almost every day doesn't mean that they are playing every single day. They have their own reason but it is not like what you think.

And another possibility, gamblers who are active in chat are more likely to have their remaining balance on their account so that they are active.

I don't think that statement is entirely true, friend. if only playing gambling like poker and sports betting can win of course everyone will only play poker and sports gambling.
since the gambling game is based on luck, so gambling addicts don't just choose the two games, they play a lot of the games they like. and with the hope that luck is on the game they play.

The winning percentage increases with skilled based gambling and chance based gambling depends upon your luck, for me sports gambling is the best form of gambling if you are interested in sports as the output is not determined by the sports book and they cannot determine the outcome, the rest you can have the slightest of doubt even though it depends upon random number generated as you will win in a short period but if you play longer you will loose and i am sure majority who played felt the same experience ;).

If you gamble for short period of time then you may win something. Only the gamblers who keep on trying must be losing always and I guess once started gambling, it would be too hard to finish off gambling shorter.

This is because of losing their control over all the actions of gambling. Unlike we must imagine/assume gambling also requires lots of dedication and accurate decisions and when you missing them due to emotional failures then you may face losses. All gamblers when keep playing for longer times may commit mistakes which may lead to losses.

not all gamblers can be lucky because many cases suffer losses and even go bankrupt because of gambling, no one can predict gambling on the strength because only people with very much and not very useful money will do gambling because if they lose then they won't think about it .

This is a common question here in gambling, do we really even win after all? The answer is both yes and no. Yes, we win, in cases that if we are disciplined enough to handle our profits and knew when only to take the risk in a certain bet. And no, because somehow and somewhat we lost our time and effort by entertaining ourselves with a little satisfaction that gambling provides, in which in most cases leads to addiction if unhandled properly.

It definitely is possible because there are games that are in favor with the player. We just have to choose which games we play and we can win too.

Some of the gamblers can win, and that is because they have luck. Sometimes, if we win, we can lose discipline in gambling because some of us decide to play one or two more rounds but then, they lose the money, including losing the win money. If we can watch, if someone can win, that person will continue to place another bet. If he wins again, he can do the same thing and only a few gamblers who can stop right away after he wins. And for people who are still playing after his winning, can become an addicted person in the future if he cannot control himself.

Do you understand Gambling mate?if does then for sure you know that this post is wrong because all games never favored the gamblers but favoring the Site and owner lol.because if what you are saying is correct then for sure all casinos now are bankrupt since gamblers will only find the games that favors them and surely they will win right?Gambling is mostly based on Luck though there are some that requires skill but those are very rare and not effective for everyone.

That is why should always evaluate ourselves before we o gambling, there are a lot of people who losing control to their decisions because they cannot handle their own emotions. Their expectations are eating them alive that makes them to become addicted to it, we should know whati s our purpose when do gambling. Is it to earn money or it is to have enjoyment?

If our focus is to earn money then we should treat gambling as a serious matter in order for us to handle the risks carefully and make money even though the risks are high. There are gamblers who experiencing huge losses because they keep committing bad decisions, I do not say that mistakes are bad but when they do mistakes, they are not finding the lesson and that is the problem. When we committed mistakes, make usre that we find the lesson from it.

So did you see professional gamblers specialised on luck based games ?  They are most on sports/Players versus Players games .. games that requires skills that can be managed to get profit to your side.
also that things requires hard work to get of learning and aquierring these skills. That is why common non really implicated player heads to simples luck based games with hope to made profit from.

If unhandled properly everything will be ruined as knowing the after effects of gambling which most of the time can lead to addiction. But yes, in some point there are people who do wins and enjoy this business, though the ratio between the two have big difference as losing sides is more often happened than having a good luck and win against the house. It's how you take things responsibly and enjoy your stay.

Exactly what i am believing also mate that our Self Control will save us in Gambling because those people that i Met who become addicted or compulsive gamblers are those person that cannot control themselves from our personal bonding.
they are mostly those type of person that will do everything to make them satisfy and contented things that if you apply in Gambling then for sure you will be a loser.
Control your emotion and lessen your desire?then you will surely have a successful gambling experience.

Even though people who have expertise in gambling I am not sure they will really win in the end, for example now winning is not certain tomorrow they can indeed be so on.  Gambling is like a spinning wheel, in which there are winners and losers always take turns.
And that's why I say gambling depends on luck.

yeah, it depends on the luck, and only sure winner is the bookkeeper, or gambling site, all others are in the wheel, with some wins and loses, usually more loses, but i take gambling just for fun, and small lose out of fun is ok with me, if you gamble with more that you can handle to lose, it is highly risky and not advised

Some gamblers do win but only few times and after they win they lose it again which means all gamblers lose money in the long run.I agree only the casinos which have a fixed house edge win in the long run.The casino is created with the sole intention to make money to the owners in the long term.But yes some gamblers do actually win and lately I have won some money in slot machines which I am sure I will lose them soon.

So just I heard stories of some peoples that do really good careers on sports betting, I mean in that in a full time engagement ,just like a job
One of them has abandoned his profession of doctor to go on a well road on horse's betting.
I mean that a really implicated players!  But again it's  not kids job

You should better to say no kids + No emotional people.
A real gambler with a real strategy, yes. he will win. for example, if you google matringle betting strategy you will understand this too easy to win and earn some money out of these websites.

Indeed, betting on horse betting will yield results faster than soccer and other sports, but when he chooses to leave his full time job, and makes gambling a full time job then I don't think that's a good decision for the long term. Indeed, some gamblers have a better luck factor and actually win over a number of periods but believe me, that victory will not guarantee that their lives will be good for the long term only from gambling, even though you say this is not the work of children, but basically you cannot depend your life on gambling because gambling is not a job.

We can't really blame the person if that is what he wanted. Maybe his passion is on betting already rather than being a doctor.

We're somewhat the same because I also stopped being an employee in our place just to stay home and work here but anyways, gambling as a job isn't prohibited but it is very risky for me. If he see that he always win on horse betting then good for him and I also believe that he sometimes experience losses too.

Yeah this is true gaming is not for kids or for emotional people because both of them will make wrong decisions in gambling so better keep those people away. a gambler can win when he will have good control over his money and will be able to know when to stop gambling thats why just be calm and try to make good decision and behave maturely being a gambler.

Man, every online (i don't know about offline casinos) casino or gambling site always have such "lucky guys". Consider them as Glowworms which trying to attract you to this gambling.

I read a good article about this, from a man who played online poker for too long, but this is two problems:
1. This article was in russian
2. I don't remember where it was

So just ignore such "professional gamblers" because if you see them, then it means that spot of "professional gambler" is engaged in this specific casino, so you have no chance  :)

Because of the coronavirus outbreak, there are a lot of people cannot make any play on the gambling casinos because this is one of the most places gathered by the people just to have fun and enjoy the ambiance, fun, excitement, risk, and doubt for every player. Into the world of gambling there are only three people, first is the person who is full of luck, confidence and skilled enough to win all of their games those are the people who already gained a lot of experience on their games they are the one sometimes who conquer the game and we cannot deny by that skills they already gained popularity and hierarchy into the world of gambling, next is the people who always lose on their gambling even you are skilled enough sometimes it is lack because all the time we can face a person who is above on us, next is the person who loves to gamble, risk all thing not just to earn money instead just to look for fun. We cannot tell in every game that a specific person will always win their games sometimes it depends on the luck and skills with that kind of combination you will never experience loose, or not totally lose but still, you have a profit for your games. While you does make into the casino why not in the online gambling it is the same but there is no too much pressure from other players and the watchers or the observers.

Gamblers are actually win depends on how they luck on that they or on how they  use the startegy but not all the time it is works.
Like in dice game for example once they lose in this bet for the second bet they gonna double their bet so if they gonna win they gonna get profit in dice games I earn more money to this and I really like to play and Im the gambler also who gonna win in this games.

This still depends.

Despite the strategies that people did, the house still has the edge and these gamblers usually always lose. Martingale might look a good strategy but actually it is not. You will never know the losing streak you have and before you know it, the money you are betting will quickly be burned by this strategy. That is the downside of this strategy, it will quickly burn out your balance. There is no such thing as perfect strategy since if a martingale is, people would take down houses and would obviously shut down casinos or gambling sites.

Doubling bet when lost in the early game are kinds of strategies that are unique from player to player and does not work for everyone and in every game because, there a different kinds of gamblers and different mechanics in every game. Picking the right strategy for every game would be the best way of getting a higher chance for a win.

Many gamblers especially beginners loses because of bad mentalities like when someone is winning in a certain game, they would most likely play in their too and making higher bets and already yearning for a higher profit. Gamblers should always first observe concerning different strategies other expert in gambling does and only bet low especially when they do not still have enough experience in any game.

Even the dice games is easy to play that is one of the risky games in crypto gambling because once you bet there is two possible to get you lose your bet or you earned profit. They have many people who get a lot of profit in the dice games maube they use their strategy to get that .

Interesting thoughts. But i talked about people, to whom casino help to win. I mean they get AA or KK in their hands much more often than average (1 time on 110 games in Holdem), or better cards on flop or something like that. I think you understand my way of thoughts  ;)

Of course, casinos with license will not do such things and create such "Glowworms" to attract fools, but there so few such casinos  :(

Dice is one of the easiest ways for gambling sites to gain income. It only has 2 outcomes, so you can win or lose. And certainly, you can potentially win just in the easiest way in gaming, winning is always a regular occurrence in betting sites, others are just quiet because they see it every day, and they're not trying to discuss winnings with others.

This is the thing, on the short term it is possible to obtain some profits out of gambling since the house edge did not had the opportunity to tilt the results in favour of the casino, but the longer you play a game with a negative EV the higher the certainty that you will lose money over the long term, this is confusing to players since they do not really understand the odds of the games but it is the truth, so if you do not really have any way to change the EV of the games then you should expect to become a loser over the long term.

I would like to know how real these stories are. As we know forex brokers, bookmakers and other casinos love to advertise those who were able to win something. But sometimes they just come up with these success stories and people play the role of such "lucky ones" for money.

Even if you have this, chances of consistent winning is impossible.

There is no chance that a gambler with a high level of discipline will consecutive times especially in games like this where it is pure luck. I remember the online game that I'm playing right now. It is purely RNG (items can be get thru pure luck) and even you used many bucks to buy some stuff, there is no 100% chance that you can get the item. It is the same with gambling. Even you put a million bucks there, the chances that you will win isn't 100% because it is still 50/50. Either you lose or fail.

There's a lot of gambling that is not based on pure luck just like poker! It is skilled base gambling which you are going to win consistently if you are good in that game, I read a thread here in gambling section which he is earning through gambling and he is doing it for a living, Imagine how he do it for a living if it is just a pure luck game. As long as your game is skilled based there's a high chance that you are going to win consistently as long as you are very good at it. Just imaging those poker champions  ;D

The problem with poker is that there is a very low "ceiling" of skill. It is almost impossible for an ordinary person to learn how to play chess at the level of grandmasters, but almost anyone can be taught to play poker at the top level. And at this level luck decides everything, since everyone has approximately the same skill.

So about that,  did you know that 80 percent of traders on the stock market lose ??!
https://www.wealthwithin.com.au/learning-centre/share-trading-tips/trading-the-stock-market

Seen from this point, that's just like gambling (which is just hazard based) !  ???

I have a lot of friends who bet on football (soccer) in the European Champions League. One of them is even a coach at a children's soccer school. They are of course great football experts, constantly monitor transfers and other events in the life of clubs, they know which players were injured, who left his wife, who found a new mistress, and so on.
However, even they do not always win and there are times when they get losses. In General, of course, they have positive statistics on winnings.

I think that the secret of good bets is to be well versed in the theme and constantly follow the news.

Football bets, if you really follow certain matches, can be profitable!
But sports betting isn't the only gambling... Many people lose in poker, roulette, slot machines!
Danydee gave the right comparison with traders! ;)

If many people won all the time, all the casinos would cease to exist! ;D

I guess that will work properly for him because not all of us can get winning like him. He should have skills in poker so he can win and he can also make a living from poker games. The other skills-based gambling games is a sports betting because I think that some gambling can get their winning from their analysis to select the right team.

I've watched a video in youtube a long time ago about poker instincts, I cannot recall the channel but it was all about poker, real casino poker, I've watched it because it was narrated and played with Daniel Negreanu, one of my professional poker player idol. He explained every skill you need to have in order to be great in poker, the simple movement of the eye matters that's why almost all of poker players wears eye glasses when playing, the feet movement, the hands, the sweat and even the saliva swallowing pattern. I know it sounds so off for some of you guys, but the real poker needs a skill more than online poker. You can't bluff your monitor, can you?

This is a great point and I agree. Another example is backgammon. There is a lot of skill in backgammon, but it is a relatively easy game to master. And once two masters are playing, the game is reduced to the dice rolls (luck).

I like Negreanu a lot too but much of this is marketing. You certainly can acquire info (tells) at the physical poker table but usually after playing with the same player over and over again. With a new player, swallowing could mean they are nervous because they are bluffing or nervous because they have a monster. It is the patterns over time that players like Negreanu use. By the way, there are online tells as well. For example an advanced action check is likely a sign of a weak hand...

Of course, trading is an analogue of gambling - there is no doubt about it for me. There is no difference on what to gamble - in a casino, with a coin or with real assets. The result will always be the same - in a zero-sum game, the number of losers will always be the majority. If you work with assets correctly and not play and be an investor, the situation is completely changing: most investors are in the black (the longer the distance, the more substantiated this statement).

Casdinyard

Bluffing doesn't help against math  ;)
And I consider real poker - online poker. Only here you can play a huge number of hands to see some statistics.

Although the vast majority of sports bettors lose a small percentage do make money long term.
Been reading a lot of sports betting blogs whilst there has been no sport to bet on.

Found two examples of guys that have been running there blogs for a few years and document there P/L
http://www.daily25.com/ (http://www.daily25.com/)

Is run by an Aussie that's been documenting his P/L for several years including losing years, seems very legitimate.

https://smartsportstrader.com/ (https://smartsportstrader.com/)

Run by an English guy that exploits casino bonuses and does sports betting.
He's been documenting his P/L for a few years also.

It does seem that some people are able to make decent money in the long term with the right strategies.

Would be interested if anyone has found any similar blogs to these two?

Having good skills is not the only requirement that you need to be profitable at poker, as you know it is a zero sum game which means that in order for you to earn money someone has to lose, the problem is that if in your table everyone has a similar skill level then who wins and who losses is now going to be determined by luck, if you want to win you need to have a few players that are below your skill level and take advantage of that difference in skill when you face them, something that is not easy to do at all.

Skills in poker for me is not that much reason for winning because not unless you are a card expert and can manipulate the distribution then thats the only way you can bag lots of money but if not?then Luck is what you need to win always.
i am a card player thats why i know how it works for long time.

I also follow the football (soccer) matches of my favorite teams and quite often the result is obvious, but in this case the coefficient for the winning team is very small. To win good money on football betting, people need to make complex bets or guess the number of goals scored.

People don't like to report their losses. On the other hand, most people like to brag about their wins. What does it mean? Given huge discrepancies in individual wealth, when you see someone winning big, it may look big only to you and your "wealth status". The point is, these people may be winning as well as losing, and probably losing more at the end of the day, but since you see them report their wins only, it seems like they are always winning. We can call it a winner mentality without actually being a winner

Then, there is martingale which allows you to be always in profit (if used wisely)

Hmmmmmm maybe Poker can be a skill based gambling but you still need luck there :D. What if you are getting a set of ugly cards all the time? Maybe you can turn it around but most of the newbie gamblers who are playing poker can't even do it. I have watched some poker games on Youtube and there are some expert gamblers who are bluffing other gamblers and this may sound funny but this works either way :D. Anyway, if I really want to gamble then I might try poker but maybe I'll just try other poker game apps on playstore :D.

In gambling, he always wins a safe, this is an unwritten rule, but in some cases he randomly pays big wins so as not to attract the shot. Although I think that the big winnings in some statistics are not earned by real individuals, I am sure that very rarely, real players also make big or big winnings when gambling. Of course, this amount of earnings is always balanced in a way that ensures the profit of the safe. This is why real users, albeit rarely, make huge gains. Still, I would like to remind you that the case always wins the long-term, if you look at the event from a wide perspective.

Trying with system and the real human have vast differences as I said earlier on other thread you can increase your poker skill only if you play with real players while risking your real money.

do agree on that, you can not improve your skills on poker without risking your own money, without risk you cannot improve anything, since there is no risk and you can try anything without risk, something that you would not do when risk is involved

 There is sites that shows on the user's profile the stats for the profits, profits percentage, amount, win/loss amount, percentage,  And so you can found players that have (all time) really huge amounts of wins,,
 That's tells concretely that's there is nothing "impossible/insurmountable", all is question of good work good method

Actually, I thought about that

These are all valid concerns and considerations. However, if this info is freely and easily available on relevant sites, why not share it with us? We would then check these stats and see for ourselves. I looked through the entirety of this thread (yes, all 13 pages), and haven't found any links other than to some construction worker jumping "from rags to riches" (an obvious case of luck at play) and another poster showing (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5226371.msg53860108#msg53860108) their stats, which are nothing out of the ordinary from my point of view (as I explained, you can beat the house edge with martingale)

If you only want to enjoy the poker game without thinking about trying to winning, I think skill will not too important. But gambler who wants to win the poker game will always try to learn more about poker so they can have more chance to win. Yes, the poker game will need luck to win in the gambling games but sometimes, if the moment is right, and you are in the right table, you can use bluffing to defeat the opponent.

If you are getting awful cards in poker there is nothing that you can do, you have no option but to keep waiting for luck to come back to you and one of the things that many people do not really understand is that if you read the biographies of great poker players you will see that those streaks of bad luck do not last a few hours sometimes they last for months and they are unable to get profits during that time, can you imagine working for months and still get no profits? Very few people will be able to survive economically under those circumstances.

It's the same with long-term investing, in a way

You may have to literally wait years until a particular investment starts to bring in dough. But unlike poker, you can "play" many hands at once. This is Warren Buffett's approach. He can wait decades simply because some (well, most) of his investments made decades ago are now paying off. Is it possible with poker or is it more like a life of a butterfly which has no future and no memory of the past?

@Op Obviously the gamblers win in gambling. But it sure that the winner is very rare than losers. Only some lucky and GOD of gamblers win sometimes. :) And when a gambler luckily wins a high stake then it makes more addiction in gambling. And this is the main reason for most of the gamblers are playing gamble despite losses.

The mindsets that if you are lucky for that day collecting money will be much easier for you, the only problem is when greed start to encircle around your brain, there's always chance to win if you know how to properly sets limitations and if you have contentment inside.
Without control expect the losing portions of your day will bust everything that you've got.

Stake/Bitsler no longer showing the profit rates,

Here's two screens from the profiles of two user that I found quickly from the chat on Bitsler,
It shows the number of wins /against the number of loss

https://i.postimg.cc/SxwV8rj5/Screenshot-2020-05-04-22-43-41-1.jpg

https://i.postimg.cc/x8wqgcH0/Screenshot-2020-05-04-22-44-21-1.jpg

Here's stats of some users from the tab of (top profits) on Crypto-Games
https://i.postimg.cc/Sx3kwJx8/Screenshot-2020-05-05-00-50-21-1.jpg

https://i.postimg.cc/7ZxKwVfr/Screenshot-2020-05-05-00-42-44-1.jpg

https://i.postimg.cc/fyqRy5Dq/Screenshot-2020-05-05-00-51-52-1.jpg

https://i.postimg.cc/0NtkccJk/Screenshot-2020-05-05-00-53-38-1.jpg

https://i.postimg.cc/7YqRZDWR/Screenshot-2020-05-05-00-41-50-1.jpg






That is me  ;D
https://i.postimg.cc/tCPFwVkQ/Screenshot-2020-05-05-00-55-00-1.png

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As you mentioned,  it is possible to get good profits from using good strategies on Bot/Auto-bet play.

The God of gamblers that you are talking about is very rare mate,it is not for everyone because it is a Gods gift and every gambler ever dreamed of.
i hate to say this but Gamblers are tend to lose and not to win so about the topic?a comment from a former addict like me is "No we cannot win in gambling"literally and truthfully guys admit that reality .
sites can be misleading mate because they can put a Bot accounts or dummy just to let people knows there are winners but the truth ?that is fake.

These stats are not telling what OP hints at

You could set the multiplier to something like 1.01 and then the total majority of your rolls will be winning -- easily over 90%. And so what? Does it mean that you will be able to score big wins every other day, multiplying your balance a thousand times in the process? Not in the least. You could actually win in the long run (see here (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5168782) how), but your profits will still be tiny compared to wagered amounts (as the stats clearly show). In other words, luck folds pretty fast while house edge takes over, and there is no chance you can win huge amounts on a regular basis, year in and year out, without losing as much or more

I promise you,,, the guys that you always see as god of gamblers are really just very loud when they win but they are not immune to house edge and they will keep very quiet when they lose.

You are right about the addiction though and this I think really separates the "winners" who take great cares to not be addicted.

People wants to get some experience they will have to face the risk and will have to be ready for getting profit after miner lose. Because where there is huge profit there will be big lose. I know so many gamblers who are actually winning and getting profit to become rich and saw so many who had nothing but only lose in gambling so its all about the user that how he or she deals with gambling.