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May 04, 2020, 04:03:14 PM
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If you are getting awful cards in poker there is nothing that you can do, you have no option but to keep waiting for luck to come back to you and one of the things that many people do not really understand is that if you read the biographies of great poker players you will see that those streaks of bad luck do not last a few hours sometimes they last for months and they are unable to get profits during that time, can you imagine working for months and still get no profits? Very few people will be able to survive economically under those circumstances

It's the same with long-term investing, in a way

You may have to literally wait years until a particular investment starts to bring in dough. But unlike poker, you can "play" many hands at once. This is Warren Buffett's approach. He can wait decades simply because some (well, most) of his investments made decades ago are now paying off. Is it possible with poker or is it more like a life of a butterfly which has no future and no memory of the past?

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May 04, 2020, 04:13:18 PM
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@Op Obviously the gamblers win in gambling. But it sure that the winner is very rare than losers. Only some lucky and GOD of gamblers win sometimes. Smiley And when a gambler luckily wins a high stake then it makes more addiction in gambling. And this is the main reason for most of the gamblers are playing gamble despite losses.

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May 05, 2020, 03:08:26 AM
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@Op Obviously the gamblers win in gambling. But it sure that the winner is very rare than losers. Only some lucky and GOD of gamblers win sometimes. Smiley And when a gambler luckily wins a high stake then it makes more addiction in gambling. And this is the main reason for most of the gamblers are playing gamble despite losses.
The mindsets that if you are lucky for that day collecting money will be much easier for you, the only problem is when greed start to encircle around your brain, there's always chance to win if you know how to properly sets limitations and if you have contentment inside.
Without control expect the losing portions of your day will bust everything that you've got.

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May 05, 2020, 03:36:52 AM
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People don't like to report their losses. On the other hand, most people like to brag about their wins. What does it mean? Given huge discrepancies in individual wealth, when you see someone winning big, it may look big only to you and your "wealth status". The point is, these people may be winning as well as losing, and probably losing more at the end of the day, but since you see them report their wins only, it seems like they are always winning. We can call it a winner mentality without actually being a winner

Then, there is martingale which allows you to be always in profit (if used wisely)

There is sites that shows on the user's profile the stats for the profits, profits percentage, amount, win/loss amount, percentage,  And so you can found players that have (all time) really huge amounts of wins,,
That's tells concretely that's there is nothing "impossible/insurmountable", all is question of good work good method

Actually, I thought about that

These are all valid concerns and considerations. However, if this info is freely and easily available on relevant sites, why not share it with us? We would then check these stats and see for ourselves. I looked through the entirety of this thread (yes, all 13 pages), and haven't found any links other than to some construction worker jumping "from rags to riches" (an obvious case of luck at play) and another poster showing their stats, which are nothing out of the ordinary from my point of view (as I explained, you can beat the house edge with martingale)



Stake/Bitsler no longer showing the profit rates,

Here's two screens from the profiles of two user that I found quickly from the chat on Bitsler,
It shows the number of wins /against the number of loss



Here's stats of some users from the tab of (top profits) on Crypto-Games















That is me  Grin








As you mentioned,  it is possible to get good profits from using good strategies on Bot/Auto-bet play.



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May 05, 2020, 04:45:56 AM
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@Op Obviously the gamblers win in gambling. But it sure that the winner is very rare than losers. Only some lucky and GOD of gamblers win sometimes. Smiley And when a gambler luckily wins a high stake then it makes more addiction in gambling. And this is the main reason for most of the gamblers are playing gamble despite losses.
The God of gamblers that you are talking about is very rare mate,it is not for everyone because it is a Gods gift and every gambler ever dreamed of.
i hate to say this but Gamblers are tend to lose and not to win so about the topic?a comment from a former addict like me is "No we cannot win in gambling"literally and truthfully guys admit that reality .

People don't like to report their losses. On the other hand, most people like to brag about their wins. What does it mean? Given huge discrepancies in individual wealth, when you see someone winning big, it may look big only to you and your "wealth status". The point is, these people may be winning as well as losing, and probably losing more at the end of the day, but since you see them report their wins only, it seems like they are always winning. We can call it a winner mentality without actually being a winner

Then, there is martingale which allows you to be always in profit (if used wisely)

 There is sites that shows on the user's profile the stats for the profits, profits percentage, amount, win/loss amount, percentage,  And so you can found players that have (all time) really huge amounts of wins,,
 That's tells concretely that's there is nothing "impossible/insurmountable", all is question of good work good method
sites can be misleading mate because they can put a Bot accounts or dummy just to let people knows there are winners but the truth ?that is fake.

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May 05, 2020, 09:03:12 AM
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Stake/Bitsler no longer showing the profit rates,

Here's two screens from the profiles of two user that I found quickly from the chat on Bitsler,
It shows the number of wins /against the number of loss

These stats are not telling what OP hints at

You could set the multiplier to something like 1.01 and then the total majority of your rolls will be winning -- easily over 90%. And so what? Does it mean that you will be able to score big wins every other day, multiplying your balance a thousand times in the process? Not in the least. You could actually win in the long run (see here how), but your profits will still be tiny compared to wagered amounts (as the stats clearly show). In other words, luck folds pretty fast while house edge takes over, and there is no chance you can win huge amounts on a regular basis, year in and year out, without losing as much or more

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May 05, 2020, 02:53:32 PM
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@Op Obviously the gamblers win in gambling. But it sure that the winner is very rare than losers. Only some lucky and GOD of gamblers win sometimes. Smiley And when a gambler luckily wins a high stake then it makes more addiction in gambling. And this is the main reason for most of the gamblers are playing gamble despite losses.

I promise you,,, the guys that you always see as god of gamblers are really just very loud when they win but they are not immune to house edge and they will keep very quiet when they lose.

You are right about the addiction though and this I think really separates the "winners" who take great cares to not be addicted.

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May 07, 2020, 07:32:37 PM
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Hmmmmmm maybe Poker can be a skill based gambling but you still need luck there Cheesy. What if you are getting a set of ugly cards all the time? Maybe you can turn it around but most of the newbie gamblers who are playing poker can't even do it. I have watched some poker games on Youtube and there are some expert gamblers who are bluffing other gamblers and this may sound funny but this works either way Cheesy. Anyway, if I really want to gamble then I might try poker but maybe I'll just try other poker game apps on playstore Cheesy.
Trying with system and the real human have vast differences as I said earlier on other thread you can increase your poker skill only if you play with real players while risking your real money.

do agree on that, you can not improve your skills on poker without risking your own money, without risk you cannot improve anything, since there is no risk and you can try anything without risk, something that you would not do when risk is involved
People wants to get some experience they will have to face the risk and will have to be ready for getting profit after miner lose. Because where there is huge profit there will be big lose. I know so many gamblers who are actually winning and getting profit to become rich and saw so many who had nothing but only lose in gambling so its all about the user that how he or she deals with gambling.

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