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Title: a disease or a virus or is there business in it?
Post by: radjie on March 18, 2020, 02:15:30 PM
Is there any chance that when the corona virus appears, some scientists have discovered the antidote of the virus itself so that there is an element of intention regarding the spread of the corona virus because there is a business element in it so that the antidote for the corona virus is sought after by many people, this is like a film about spreading viruses that can kill and destroy the economy globally. what do you think about this?


Title: Re: a disease or a virus or is there business in it?
Post by: jackg on March 18, 2020, 02:20:47 PM
NO?

An antidote in this context would be a vaccine and the spread w pi uld have to be subdued for the vaccine to be applied to the population.

We may also see some random stocks rise though as less valuable companies come out with tests and cures.



For every private company in the US testing a vaccine, there's probably a socialised medicine programme in the EU doing the same thing, if they find them so fast - it wasn't a race, they know what they were doing...


Title: Re: a disease or a virus or is there business in it?
Post by: Janation on March 18, 2020, 02:30:51 PM
Is there any chance that when the corona virus appears, some scientists have discovered the antidote of the virus itself so that there is an element of intention regarding the spread of the corona virus because there is a business element in it so that the antidote for the corona virus is sought after by many people, this is like a film about spreading viruses that can kill and destroy the economy globally. what do you think about this?

It is a possibility since we all know that before all of this, China had a trade war with the US.

I am not pointing my fingers at anyone here but it is just a possibility and right now the exchange of words between those nations are happening.  (https://qz.com/1819704/us-and-china-in-a-nasty-war-of-words-over-coronavirus/)I am not siding anyone here since these two countries are also affected by the virus, right now a hundred is reported dead because of the virus in US, if this is their plot they shouldn't be even having a problem with it. Business? Maybe, just like cancer.


Title: Re: a disease or a virus or is there business in it?
Post by: Harlot on March 18, 2020, 02:38:39 PM
From what I know a pandemic such as this one cannot be monetize by pharmaceutical businesses if they find an antidote. That would violate a lot of international laws which a lot of countries already agreed and the company's CEO might be charged such as crimes against humanity. If they found a cure the best thing the company will get is either a subsidy for their research as well as some compensation for their efforts, they might profit a little but they won't be billionaires because of it as they cannot make this antidote/cure exclusive to the rich, this cure will be everyone's right to receive.


Title: Re: a disease or a virus or is there business in it?
Post by: arrmia11 on March 18, 2020, 02:51:32 PM
Is there any chance that when the corona virus appears, some scientists have discovered the antidote of the virus itself so that there is an element of intention regarding the spread of the corona virus because there is a business element in it so that the antidote for the corona virus is sought after by many people, this is like a film about spreading viruses that can kill and destroy the economy globally. what do you think about this?

I think so, that they already have the antidote before the Corona virus spread, and i think you are there is a business behind this corona virus.
Because i heard some rumours about this, they said that all of this are parts of their plan, that's why they invented this virus


Title: Re: a disease or a virus or is there business in it?
Post by: cengat on March 18, 2020, 02:52:29 PM
From what I know a pandemic such as this one cannot be monetize by pharmaceutical businesses if they find an antidote. That would violate a lot of international laws which a lot of countries already agreed and the company's CEO might be charged such as crimes against humanity. If they found a cure the best thing the company will get is either a subsidy for their research as well as some compensation for their efforts, they might profit a little but they won't be billionaires because of it as they cannot make this antidote/cure exclusive to the rich, this cure will be everyone's right to receive.
Even if they won't lie about researches of antidote be sure they will be highly rewarded for all masks, drugs, supplies etc. they are selling right now.
 


Title: Re: a disease or a virus or is there business in it?
Post by: LeGaulois on March 18, 2020, 03:16:08 PM
...

Do you really think the pharma industry is not currently banking with covid-19?

It's not only about an antidote, it is also medicines, surgical masks, respiratory equipment, and many other products (disinfectant,...) Pharmaceutical companies do not work for free. You can also check out how companies like Gilead Sciences, Abbvie, and Regeneron to see how its performing at Wall Street. Alpha Pro Tech +45% in 1 month.

They can receive pressure from governments but that doesn't mean they will obey and they can also put pressure on them by saying it's this or nothing, your choice...

The pharmaceutical industry is also known for inventing diseases in order to be able to sell


Title: Re: a disease or a virus or is there business in it?
Post by: radjie on March 18, 2020, 03:21:06 PM
Is there any chance that when the corona virus appears, some scientists have discovered the antidote of the virus itself so that there is an element of intention regarding the spread of the corona virus because there is a business element in it so that the antidote for the corona virus is sought after by many people, this is like a film about spreading viruses that can kill and destroy the economy globally. what do you think about this?

It is a possibility since we all know that before all of this, China had a trade war with the US.

I am not pointing my fingers at anyone here but it is just a possibility and right now the exchange of words between those nations are happening.  (https://qz.com/1819704/us-and-china-in-a-nasty-war-of-words-over-coronavirus/)I am not siding anyone here since these two countries are also affected by the virus, right now a hundred is reported dead because of the virus in US, if this is their plot they shouldn't be even having a problem with it. Business? Maybe, just like cancer.

the two related countries do have strong trade wars, but if the aim is only to control global trade competition, of course it is very unethical because it affects all countries so that it is dangerous for all strata of people who don't know anything. even at a glance I read about the news on the internet from several sources there are people who say if the corona virus is China's biological weapons that leak, whether it can be justified or not and is uncertain about the purpose and purpose of all of that.


Title: Re: a disease or a virus or is there business in it?
Post by: The Sceptical Chymist on March 18, 2020, 03:24:02 PM
If you haven't seen the movie Contagion from 2011, I would recommend checking it out, because it deals with a scenario very much like what we're dealing with now and it also has that profit motive as part of its plot.  

There's money in vaccine development and potential antiviral treatments, but those take a lot of money up-front on the part of pharmaceutical companies and the profit only comes later--but I have no doubt that big pharma is looking at this crisis as a potential money-making opportunity.  I don't really have a problem with that, as it drives them to develop new products and they'd actually be helping a very bad situation in the process.

Wish I knew what companies were developing new antivirals and/or vaccines, because if I had money I'd be buying their stock right now.

You can also check out how companies like Gilead Sciences, Abbvie, and Regeneron to see how its performing at Wall Street. Alpha Pro Tech +45% in 1 month.
Gilead has been a good investment for quite a while, and I know they make some HIV meds.  I've heard of Regeneron, but I'll have to check them out.


Title: Re: a disease or a virus or is there business in it?
Post by: Sahyadri on March 18, 2020, 03:27:32 PM
Is there any chance that when the corona virus appears, some scientists have discovered the antidote of the virus itself so that there is an element of intention regarding the spread of the corona virus because there is a business element in it so that the antidote for the corona virus is sought after by many people, this is like a film about spreading viruses that can kill and destroy the economy globally. what do you think about this?
Even the facts are telling the same.
If you look at the stock market melt down globally, you will see that the least affected country is CHINA. The damn CHINA where it all started.
The fear was spread amazingly well through the more than ever connected global village. Even companies were spreading fear among the people for self motives. Corona has just become a tool to hide all the white collar crimes. It isn't just a pandemic but a lot more than that.
This economic slowdown was expected for a year now and corona just helped these big businesses to escape the shit by hiding under the virus propaganda.

Always, it's the normal public that gets hit the hardest.


Title: Re: a disease or a virus or is there business in it?
Post by: AniviaBtc on March 18, 2020, 03:42:07 PM
Is there any chance that when the corona virus appears, some scientists have discovered the antidote of the virus itself so that there is an element of intention regarding the spread of the corona virus because there is a business element in it so that the antidote for the corona virus is sought after by many people, this is like a film about spreading viruses that can kill and destroy the economy globally. what do you think about this?

I think so, that they already have the antidote before the Corona virus spread, and i think you are there is a business behind this corona virus.
Because i heard some rumours about this, they said that all of this are parts of their plan, that's why they invented this virus

The Covid-19 really affects a lot of people all around the world and it is hard to stop as it is continuously increasing. The spread of this virus is very fast, the people that are getting infected are faster than the people getting recovered from it. If there is really an antidote then state that article where you've read that information. I don't think that there is already an antidote, the scientist will not spend their money and waste their time discovering and developing it if it already exist. If the government hide that antidote for economical purposes, the will leave people until they suffer from the virus and die.

False rumors will make us more ignorant about what is really happening in reality, if we value money more than the life of the people then we will all lose this battle against the deadly virus. It takes time for the antidote to discover, and thanks to those healthcare workers who are brave enough to fight this Covid-19 with all their efforts and passion to do this.


Title: Re: a disease or a virus or is there business in it?
Post by: ethereumhunter on March 18, 2020, 04:13:02 PM
I think that is a biological leakage in the laboratory that brought the virus out to the public so right now, and the virus spreads in almost all countries. But who knows of that?

We never know what is behind all of these because people already panic to see the number of people who got infected increase every day. It is too far to imagine what is really happening in every country, but we only know that many people got infected by Corona Virus. The government still trying to find out the medicine for them.


Title: Re: a disease or a virus or is there business in it?
Post by: Latviand on March 18, 2020, 04:57:59 PM
Is there any chance that when the corona virus appears, some scientists have discovered the antidote of the virus itself so that there is an element of intention regarding the spread of the corona virus because there is a business element in it so that the antidote for the corona virus is sought after by many people, this is like a film about spreading viruses that can kill and destroy the economy globally. what do you think about this?

It is a possibility since we all know that before all of this, China had a trade war with the US.

I am not pointing my fingers at anyone here but it is just a possibility and right now the exchange of words between those nations are happening.  (https://qz.com/1819704/us-and-china-in-a-nasty-war-of-words-over-coronavirus/)I am not siding anyone here since these two countries are also affected by the virus, right now a hundred is reported dead because of the virus in US, if this is their plot they shouldn't be even having a problem with it. Business? Maybe, just like cancer.

the two related countries do have strong trade wars, but if the aim is only to control global trade competition, of course it is very unethical because it affects all countries so that it is dangerous for all strata of people who don't know anything. even at a glance I read about the news on the internet from several sources there are people who say if the corona virus is China's biological weapons that leak, whether it can be justified or not and is uncertain about the purpose and purpose of all of that.

On the other hand, during times like this, the Trade War between US and China is not the issue. We should focus first on how we will overcome this kind of problem that we are experiencing. The Covid-19 really affect how we live everyday since most of the countries are in quarantine. Many people can't go to work, can't buy foods, medicines, don't have salary, can go outside, actions are limited and we don't know when this virus will end. Our economy is holding back, the market demands are more on medicine, or health related products, foods, and etc. I'd never think of the stuffs like China's Biological Weapon, there's nothing to blame here. We, citizens need to help each other protect and become safe to virus. We must follow our government and let the government have access to the market and help us with our needs.


Title: Re: a disease or a virus or is there business in it?
Post by: Wintersoldier on March 18, 2020, 06:22:25 PM
Is there any chance that when the corona virus appears, some scientists have discovered the antidote of the virus itself so that there is an element of intention regarding the spread of the corona virus because there is a business element in it so that the antidote for the corona virus is sought after by many people, this is like a film about spreading viruses that can kill and destroy the economy globally. what do you think about this?
There are already thousands of people who have been affected by this virus that it is almost all over the country , and we don't even know who is behind of this virus. I think for sure there is already an antidote that was invented before the virus spreads, maybe the creator just really wanted to spread the virus even more and then releases the antidote, so she or he could be rewarded. Just a theory about it


Title: Re: a disease or a virus or is there business in it?
Post by: dioanna on March 18, 2020, 07:04:37 PM
Is there any chance that when the corona virus appears, some scientists have discovered the antidote of the virus itself so that there is an element of intention regarding the spread of the corona virus because there is a business element in it so that the antidote for the corona virus is sought after by many people, this is like a film about spreading viruses that can kill and destroy the economy globally. what do you think about this?

so many stories and speculations have risen about this virus, some stories seem similar to the movies we have seen.
We do not even know what is true and what's not.
sadly some have taken advantage of the situation hoarding necessary goods, selling them 3x to 5x or more of the original price.
This crisis truly involved business elements.



Title: Re: a disease or a virus or is there business in it?
Post by: imstillthebest on March 18, 2020, 07:07:51 PM
Is there any chance that when the corona virus appears, some scientists have discovered the antidote of the virus itself so that there is an element of intention regarding the spread of the corona virus because there is a business element in it so that the antidote for the corona virus is sought after by many people, this is like a film about spreading viruses that can kill and destroy the economy globally. what do you think about this?
There are already thousands of people who have been affected by this virus that it is almost all over the country , and we don't even know who is behind of this virus. I think for sure there is already an antidote that was invented before the virus spreads, maybe the creator just really wanted to spread the virus even more and then releases the antidote, so she or he could be rewarded. Just a theory about it

your theory could be true because lately ive seen some videos that corona virus already existed before therfor the cure were arleady invented before also but there are also news that cure have been distributed for free by russia and china  but dont know if both sure are simillar   .

 it could also be that the creator of the virus wants to benefit on other forms of business and not by selling cure/medical products   . sad to witness that there are humans that are willing to harm other people just to achieve the satisfaction that they need


Title: Re: a disease or a virus or is there business in it?
Post by: BitSat19 on March 18, 2020, 07:10:07 PM
Is there any chance that when the corona virus appears, some scientists have discovered the antidote of the virus itself so that there is an element of intention regarding the spread of the corona virus because there is a business element in it so that the antidote for the corona virus is sought after by many people, this is like a film about spreading viruses that can kill and destroy the economy globally. what do you think about this?

so many stories and speculations have risen about this virus, some stories seem similar to the movies we have seen.
We do not even know what is true and what's not.
sadly some have taken advantage of the situation hoarding necessary goods, selling them 3x to 5x or more of the original price.
This crisis truly involved business elements.
In next few years we will have all information's about this because this will never been hidden but right now as two superpowers have words exchanges I am feeling something wired really happening because big giants want to have some good profit and this is not possible in normal ways so they done this all for profit and more money like we have in movies and stories.


Title: Re: a disease or a virus or is there business in it?
Post by: carter34 on March 18, 2020, 08:17:39 PM
Is there any chance that when the corona virus appears, some scientists have discovered the antidote of the virus itself so that there is an element of intention regarding the spread of the corona virus because there is a business element in it so that the antidote for the corona virus is sought after by many people, this is like a film about spreading viruses that can kill and destroy the economy globally. what do you think about this?

If I understand this post very well, I think maybe you are thinking towards the business aspect of it and that either someone somewhere is delaying to sell the antidote for corona virus to attract more profit, but I don't think so.
The reason I don't think so is because it is not just in one country but a global phenomena, so you don't know a relative that can be affected.


Title: Re: a disease or a virus or is there business in it?
Post by: hahay on March 18, 2020, 09:25:10 PM
How can they have planned something bad like this if they know the worst effects that will occur, the use of business when the situation is bad is not a good idea because even the crisis has hit the world as a result of this pandemic and with the implementation of quarantine, isolation, lockdown and or anything else there which makes it difficult for every country to import and export and in that way, then I don't think there is any business that can be done when bad cases like this continue to increase and are difficult to control.


Title: Re: a disease or a virus or is there business in it?
Post by: hatshepsut93 on March 18, 2020, 11:32:25 PM
Is there any chance that when the corona virus appears, some scientists have discovered the antidote of the virus itself so that there is an element of intention regarding the spread of the corona virus because there is a business element in it so that the antidote for the corona virus is sought after by many people, this is like a film about spreading viruses that can kill and destroy the economy globally. what do you think about this?

You can come up with all sorts of theories about the disease - aliens, Russians, Chinese, CIA, Hillary Clinton and so on, but if you have to facts to back them up, these theories are worthless. And if you believe in things just because they sound right to you, you'll be just living in your own world.


Title: Re: a disease or a virus or is there business in it?
Post by: Xampeuu on March 19, 2020, 04:24:23 AM
at this time many entrepreneurs are experiencing losses. but indeed not a few people who can use this condition to reap profits. we can see health equipment such as masks and hand sanitizers that most people hunt for, even basic needs are being bought in to anticipate the worst. many opinions about the antidote, but there is no valid and recognized by the world


Title: Re: a disease or a virus or is there business in it?
Post by: stompix on March 19, 2020, 02:45:03 PM
at this time many entrepreneurs are experiencing losses. but indeed not a few people who can use this condition to reap profits. we can see health equipment such as masks and hand sanitizers that most people hunt for, even basic needs are being bought in to anticipate the worst.

Yeah, let's look at the bright side.
Everything else in the economy from restaurants to airlines, from tourism to car manufactures are taking a hit and laying off hundreds and thousands of employees but some companies are making 50 cents more per mask and bottle of tomato juice.

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Also, the conspiracy about the pharma industry, they have the money, they are profiting like this, but...realize they are hurting business with a thousand times their money and their power? Yeah, they have lobby power, but how much power have others like Boeing or Lockheed Martin that have been also hit for example?
Do you guys think that the guys behind a pharma company that has a vaccine cure and plans to win billions have the guts to anger all the others?
Would they also risk the anger of all the governments all over the world?
It makes no sense...

Yes, they are going to make profits, but that's why they were built in the first place.
Just like food companies are making money selling food they are making money selling drugs.

But as always, if a thing is beyond the average Joe comprehension power, theories start to fly around, lots of people claim it is a biological weapon but if you ask them what a virus is they have no real clue. For thousands of years, we have died from disease and at that time there was no pharma cartel doing it, but now, you can't have one outbreak without a conspiracy theory.


Title: Re: a disease or a virus or is there business in it?
Post by: Twentyonepaylots on March 19, 2020, 03:06:22 PM
at this time many entrepreneurs are experiencing losses. but indeed not a few people who can use this condition to reap profits. we can see health equipment such as masks and hand sanitizers that most people hunt for, even basic needs are being bought in to anticipate the worst. many opinions about the antidote, but there is no valid and recognized by the world
Funny thing to add is that Soulja Boy, the well-known rapper, had bought stocks from companies who provide sanitation like soaps and disinfectant alcohol. So we can say he's swimming in that pandemic money right now. More over, people will always take advantage of other people's panics that'll drive them to find ways to make this pandemic profitable. Even here on our end, a lot of people hoarded, disinfectants, soaps and masks which they resold at high prices. This has been subdued by our Government and had the perpetrators face jail time, however. But as far as vaccine goes. I don't see it becoming profitable until it becomes commercially available.


Title: Re: a disease or a virus or is there business in it?
Post by: ufaiz50 on March 19, 2020, 03:38:53 PM
Is there any chance that when the corona virus appears, some scientists have discovered the antidote of the virus itself so that there is an element of intention regarding the spread of the corona virus because there is a business element in it so that the antidote for the corona virus is sought after by many people, this is like a film about spreading viruses that can kill and destroy the economy globally. what do you think about this?
Many conspiracies about corona, even one of these conspiracies mentions bill gates as the ringleader of corona and intends to sell the vaccine.

again it's all just "conspiracy" thinking. I don't want to consider this a business, because it's already at an epidemic level and many people are infected and there are also some who died. I don't want to consider this business. how can they make business from human death  :'(


Title: Re: a disease or a virus or is there business in it?
Post by: mu_enrico on March 19, 2020, 04:13:58 PM
It's from bats (wild animals), and only God knows how many more unknown viruses carried by wild animals that could be deadly when exposes to humans. No need fancy laboratory and doctor evil since deep down in the remote area (jungle, ocean, etc.), there are lots of unknown viruses and bacteria that never be seen previously.

Plus, no one would get benefited from a bad economy, especially when you can't freely buy goods and services. It should be clear that you can't eat money.


Title: Re: a disease or a virus or is there business in it?
Post by: Blackdeath on March 19, 2020, 06:04:53 PM
It's from bats (wild animals), and only God knows how many more unknown viruses carried by wild animals that could be deadly when exposes to humans. No need fancy laboratory and doctor evil since deep down in the remote area (jungle, ocean, etc.), there are lots of unknown viruses and bacteria that never be seen previously.

Plus, no one would get benefited from a bad economy, especially when you can't freely buy goods and services. It should be clear that you can't eat money.
There are a lot of viruses that you can get from wild animals, but to be honest human beings are also the ones who creates and spread these viruses that i think they are doing for money, so that if the virus have spread all over the world it may be the time that they will release the cure in exchange of fame and money.


Title: Re: a disease or a virus or is there business in it?
Post by: cotton ball on March 19, 2020, 07:04:54 PM
Maybe corona virus give examination for many countries does ready when get bigger problem suddenly without predicting before? we can see how many countries are not ready when found with Corona virus and many their people got pass away just few week after Corona virus effect.


Title: Re: a disease or a virus or is there business in it?
Post by: Findingnemo on March 19, 2020, 08:01:27 PM
I don't think it was created for business profits? Because most of the countries will give medicines for no cost to their citizen if it is available in future.

Maybe it was created by someone who wants to make money by spreading this virus and selling the medicine for it but we can't prove anything even if it is real.

Different people say different theories for everything,don't dump everything into your mind.


Title: Re: a disease or a virus or is there business in it?
Post by: Hydrogen on March 19, 2020, 11:40:35 PM
Is there any chance that when the corona virus appears, some scientists have discovered the antidote of the virus itself so that there is an element of intention regarding the spread of the corona virus because there is a business element in it so that the antidote for the corona virus is sought after by many people, this is like a film about spreading viruses that can kill and destroy the economy globally. what do you think about this?



It was rumored anti virus software devs wrote PC malware and propagated it into the wild to encourage consumers to buy their A/V product which could remove it. Some computer viruses were harmless and written with the moral intent of forcing vendors to close security vulnerabilities which they ignored for a long time. We have precedents for these business practices.

I do not think the corona virus was developed or distributed with profiteering intent.

Corona is being treated with anti HIV medication. If its similar to HIV in biology, to be treated with the same drugs. I would guess we will never have a vaccine or cure for it, until we have a vaccine for HIV.


Title: Re: a disease or a virus or is there business in it?
Post by: KrisAlex18 on March 20, 2020, 07:21:12 AM
Is there any chance that when the corona virus appears, some scientists have discovered the antidote of the virus itself so that there is an element of intention regarding the spread of the corona virus because there is a business element in it so that the antidote for the corona virus is sought after by many people, this is like a film about spreading viruses that can kill and destroy the economy globally. what do you think about this?
I don't think so, even though China is very populated country I don't think that they will create a virus just to kill many people that will result the market to fall, China is very populated country and that is the reason why they became so powerful compared to other countries, I have received a forwarded message about the reason why COVID-19 exists, it says that scientist created this virus, they are only telling that the virus came from the bat to prevent some people think about the reason of the virus, one of the superior of other country (no country name included) asked the scientist to create a virus that will kill many people because we are already populated, and they should reach for about 100 Billion people killed before they show off the cured on that virus, but I don't believe on that because there are so many fake news on my country about the virus, and I do not think that it is really true because no one would wish to kills many life.


Title: Re: a disease or a virus or is there business in it?
Post by: yanto@1977 on March 20, 2020, 07:45:50 AM
this is like a film about spreading viruses that can kill and destroy the economy globally.

This is not like movie this is real life, many people infected but still don't have antidote. People should stay in their home to make sure the virus not spread and the body can heal use antibody. Economy can't destroy buy virus but because greedy and expensive knowledge, no more working together just you and me. This is red market and I think find the best strategy for our financial is better than complaint.


Title: Re: a disease or a virus or is there business in it?
Post by: mu_enrico on March 20, 2020, 08:52:56 AM
There are a lot of viruses that you can get from wild animals, but to be honest human beings are also the ones who creates and spread these viruses that i think they are doing for money, so that if the virus have spread all over the world it may be the time that they will release the cure in exchange of fame and money.
Many said that wild animals markets were the culprit.

Anyway, virus isn't like poison that you can create antidote/serum out of it, so the cure might not exist. Yes scientist could create a vaccine (weakened version of the virus), but it wouldn't be effective with mutated virus like influenza. Even if you get vaccinated, you'll get cold most of the time when your immune system weak.

So the conspiracy theory is baseless IMO.


Title: Re: a disease or a virus or is there business in it?
Post by: Sadlife on March 20, 2020, 09:21:40 AM
There are also rumors and conspiracy theory roaming around about this. Even some government official in china accused the US government for spreading in it. Because patient zero or the man with the virus came at US first. But i dont want to suspect anything until there's a conclusive proof about this.
Maybe this is actually man made or not. Honestly time will tell.


Title: Re: a disease or a virus or is there business in it?
Post by: onrise on March 20, 2020, 09:57:10 AM
at this time many entrepreneurs are experiencing losses. but indeed not a few people who can use this condition to reap profits. we can see health equipment such as masks and hand sanitizers that most people hunt for, even basic needs are being bought in to anticipate the worst. many opinions about the antidote, but there is no valid and recognized by the world

If considered most people who run businesses, or anything related to it are affected due to this virus spread and due to closure of their city or being lockdown. The demand will definitely be going down in coming time a swell since quite of few people in job would be hit due to this slowness. Also share markets have fallen badly and people might have ended in a heavy loss if they have sold their stocks. Only handful of people who are in business related to such health services may be gaining it rest it’s a sad story.


Title: Re: a disease or a virus or is there business in it?
Post by: Free1bitco.in on March 20, 2020, 12:56:38 PM
we cannot avoid thoughts like this. actually I have long heard about conspiracies like this, it's just that, every new thing that has a big effect there is always a conspiracy in it. some say that this is America's biological weapon and others. Well, if scientists have indeed found this drug and hid it, now other scientists should have made an antivirus that might have the potential to inhibit this virus.


Title: Re: a disease or a virus or is there business in it?
Post by: fiulpro on March 20, 2020, 01:19:19 PM
Antiviral drugs are not going to be in the market soon , you have to wait till 2021 , treatments are not something that are 100% working and finalized , it will need more than few months .
With Donald Trump calling it The China Virus , Making racist comments on the live television , creating problems between people.
The virus is sure very different for different people.
For some people it a agenda of political discussion.
For some it's a way to earn more through series and movies related to it .
For some it's a reason to chill out .
The bottom line is , no one even knows who could have caused it .

It's a pandemic that we have to resolve on our own .


Title: Re: a disease or a virus or is there business in it?
Post by: Subbir on March 20, 2020, 01:22:29 PM
From what I know a pandemic such as this one cannot be monetize by pharmaceutical businesses if they find an antidote. That would violate a lot of international laws which a lot of countries already agreed and the company's CEO might be charged such as crimes against humanity. If they found a cure the best thing the company will get is either a subsidy for their research as well as some compensation for their efforts, they might profit a little but they won't be billionaires because of it as they cannot make this antidote/cure exclusive to the rich, this cure will be everyone's right to receive.
Even if they won't lie about researches of antidote be sure they will be highly rewarded for all masks, drugs, supplies etc. they are selling right now.
 

You are right in saying that supplying medicines to stop the virus are going to be rewarded but I don't think that any medicine has been made to stop this virus till now. many of us give false news about doing business The system of this country is weak and there's no action against those that violate the bounds.


Title: Re: a disease or a virus or is there business in it?
Post by: Twinscoin2017 on March 21, 2020, 05:38:02 AM
I dont know the whole story on it but using virus for business is really crazy it sound like you commit a suicide so i dont believe that the people will make a virus for thier businesses it really sounds very ridiculous.


Title: Re: a disease or a virus or is there business in it?
Post by: stompix on March 21, 2020, 09:38:34 AM
With Donald Trump calling it The China Virus , Making racist comments on the live television , creating problems between people.

Oh wait, calling this "Wuhan virus" is racist, but calling the previous pandemic the spanish flu is not?

Anyway, virus isn't like poison that you can create antidote/serum out of it, so the cure might not exist. Yes scientist could create a vaccine (weakened version of the virus), but it wouldn't be effective with mutated virus like influenza. Even if you get vaccinated, you'll get cold most of the time when your immune system weak.

There is no time for that type of vaccine, based on either attenuated or inactive viruses, all those have failed againstt both mers and sars.
The only way to mass-produce something in an RNA vaccine, which doesn't require the presence of the virus, but, again no such vaccine has ever been approved for mass inoculation.

Translation:
We're f&^&  if the disease isn't contained.




Title: Re: a disease or a virus or is there business in it?
Post by: Meowth05 on March 21, 2020, 10:13:46 AM
I don't think they are trying their best just to profit out of it, this might not look like it the research done by many experts are done by universities, it is true that they lack funding but saying that they are profiting out of it is ridiculous. One good business flourishing right now would be online gambling because people are on their houses and they want some entertainment.


Title: Re: a disease or a virus or is there business in it?
Post by: audaciousbeing on March 21, 2020, 10:28:49 AM
I don't think they are trying their best just to profit out of it, this might not look like it the research done by many experts are done by universities, it is true that they lack funding but saying that they are profiting out of it is ridiculous. One good business flourishing right now would be online gambling because people are on their houses and they want some entertainment.

It still boils down to sheer capitalism. Capitalism has eaten deep into the society that we all have forgotten our action to humanity. A lot of businesses are suffering with this virus while some businesses would see it as an opportunity to cash out big and deliver even beyond their target for the entire year. Is it wrong, of course not so far its done within the ambits of the law. The businesses that are struggling would they have taken a different decision should the table turn, of course not because we are all driven by capitalism and nothing else.


Title: Re: a disease or a virus or is there business in it?
Post by: Subbir on March 21, 2020, 01:18:48 PM
You are right due to this capitalism they need the chance to try to to such a thing. this society is hooked in to superstition. They fool poor people and open their kingdoms. Capitalists don't take hold of everything, even the system is in their hands But nobody can do business with the Coronavirus because it's true and has spread everywhere the planet.


Title: Re: a disease or a virus or is there business in it?
Post by: adzino on March 21, 2020, 01:41:14 PM
NO?

An antidote in this context would be a vaccine and the spread w pi uld have to be subdued for the vaccine to be applied to the population.

We may also see some random stocks rise though as less valuable companies come out with tests and cures.



For every private company in the US testing a vaccine, there's probably a socialised medicine programme in the EU doing the same thing, if they find them so fast - it wasn't a race, they know what they were doing...
Vaccines are not some sort of antidotes. In fact antidotes and vaccines are totally different things. You don't have to subdued the spread (not even sure what this means. I am assuming you mean that the spread has to be controlled) for applying the vaccine. People that hasn't been affected by the virus can apply the vaccine (if it ever gets created and approved) to make themselves immune (or at least be able to fight the virus without causing much trouble) to the virus. Those already affected by the virus does not need to apply the vaccine since the anitbodies can already fight against the virus.
You use antidote to reverse the bad affect of drugs or poison. On other hand you apply vaccine in order to make your immune system be able to fight against that particular virus if it ever attacks the body.


Title: Re: a disease or a virus or is there business in it?
Post by: awik p on March 21, 2020, 03:04:17 PM
I don't think they are trying their best just to profit out of it, this might not look like it the research done by many experts are done by universities, it is true that they lack funding but saying that they are profiting out of it is ridiculous. One good business flourishing right now would be online gambling because people are on their houses and they want some entertainment.

It still boils down to sheer capitalism. Capitalism has eaten deep into the society that we all have forgotten our action to humanity. A lot of businesses are suffering with this virus while some businesses would see it as an opportunity to cash out big and deliver even beyond their target for the entire year. Is it wrong, of course not so far its done within the ambits of the law. The businesses that are struggling would they have taken a different decision should the table turn, of course not because we are all driven by capitalism and nothing else.
of course we know that products are in excess of demand at a time like this, and whether that is said to be business or indeed necessity. but with so many requests, it certainly makes the price expensive and it takes a lot of people, such as basic commodities that must be available for their survival


Title: Re: a disease or a virus or is there business in it?
Post by: buwaytress on March 21, 2020, 04:45:02 PM
at this time many entrepreneurs are experiencing losses. but indeed not a few people who can use this condition to reap profits. we can see health equipment such as masks and hand sanitizers that most people hunt for, even basic needs are being bought in to anticipate the worst. many opinions about the antidote, but there is no valid and recognized by the world

That's sort of game theory at work.

If everyone just buys enough for themselves, everyone has enough and there is no shortage. But if just 1 person buys more than he needs, everyone else needs to also line up and buy or end up on the short end of the stick.

Trust me, when game theory starts to work on Bitcoin, it will be a whole new level of FOMO and then we who got in early will be really happy. Hopefully those of us who have more than we need decide to give it back to those who need it most.


Title: Re: a disease or a virus or is there business in it?
Post by: Spaffin on March 21, 2020, 06:31:30 PM
at this time many entrepreneurs are experiencing losses. but indeed not a few people who can use this condition to reap profits. we can see health equipment such as masks and hand sanitizers that most people hunt for, even basic needs are being bought in to anticipate the worst. many opinions about the antidote, but there is no valid and recognized by the world

That's sort of game theory at work.

If everyone just buys enough for themselves, everyone has enough and there is no shortage. But if just 1 person buys more than he needs, everyone else needs to also line up and buy or end up on the short end of the stick.

Trust me, when game theory starts to work on Bitcoin, it will be a whole new level of FOMO and then we who got in early will be really happy. Hopefully those of us who have more than we need decide to give it back to those who need it most.
I very much hope for the legalization of cryptocurrencies and that Bitcoin will take its place of honor as an international currency as a means of payment for every day for each person.  I very much hope that all my savings will not depreciate, as is now happening in the Fiat equivalent.  Today, in a pandemic, almost any entrepreneur is trying to earn at the expense of a simple person, because for example the cost of medical masks is $ 2, and they are already selling for $ 10.  Almost all food products have almost doubled in price, as well as all basic necessities for humans.  What caused this imitation?  Of course, because of the artificial manipulations of the government and businessmen.  At the same time, the national currency in my country fell significantly in relation to the dollar.  If I used a stable bitcoin, then it would be stable all the time, and not be subject to inflation like my national currency.


Title: Re: a disease or a virus or is there business in it?
Post by: jackg on March 21, 2020, 11:47:52 PM
NO?

An antidote in this context would be a vaccine and the spread w pi uld have to be subdued for the vaccine to be applied to the population.

We may also see some random stocks rise though as less valuable companies come out with tests and cures.



For every private company in the US testing a vaccine, there's probably a socialised medicine programme in the EU doing the same thing, if they find them so fast - it wasn't a race, they know what they were doing...
Vaccines are not some sort of antidotes. In fact antidotes and vaccines are totally different things. You don't have to subdued the spread (not even sure what this means. I am assuming you mean that the spread has to be controlled) for applying the vaccine. People that hasn't been affected by the virus can apply the vaccine (if it ever gets created and approved) to make themselves immune (or at least be able to fight the virus without causing much trouble) to the virus. Those already affected by the virus does not need to apply the vaccine since the anitbodies can already fight against the virus.
You use antidote to reverse the bad affect of drugs or poison. On other hand you apply vaccine in order to make your immune system be able to fight against that particular virus if it ever attacks the body.

To develop an "antidote" you'd need something to reduce the antitoxins in your blood which would have to be done via a device administered via IV which won't be passed by any government thst cares about its citizens.

Or you'd have to develop something that draws out its antigens and breaks up the virus, which is similarly impossible in current medicine/technology without causing many more problems for the patient...

Even bill Gates' idea of refining and injecting blood plasma would require testing and filtration before being attempted and a government again would have to approve something and in doing so, if its simple to do (I. E a known strategy of idea) then the country that created the invention may not be needed. Governments can decide to honour a patent or not especially if its from a country that doesn't respect international copyright law itself.


Title: Re: a disease or a virus or is there business in it?
Post by: Viscore on March 21, 2020, 11:52:39 PM
We don't know if that's really happening,  the world is corrupt, people can use anything to destroy the economy for their personal benefits, including this virus that affected millions of people's lives. Sometimes the movie happens in real life, but that would only remain speculation for now until these people are found doing the crime and arrested.

well, I hope this is not a man made disease as otherwise if we can stop it now, it will still happen in the future.
These people who are doing it are cruel with no soul at all, for the money or power, they are willing to kill people.


Title: Re: a disease or a virus or is there business in it?
Post by: Twinkledoe on March 22, 2020, 03:49:00 AM
We don't know if that's really happening,  the world is corrupt, people can use anything to destroy the economy for their personal benefits, including this virus that affected millions of people's lives. Sometimes the movie happens in real life, but that would only remain speculation for now until these people are found doing the crime and arrested.

well, I hope this is not a man made disease as otherwise if we can stop it now, it will still happen in the future.
These people who are doing it are cruel with no soul at all, for the money or power, they are willing to kill people.


I am not inclined in the thinking that this is a man-made virus. I still believe that the first persons who acquired it came from natural sources. If it is man-made, one should have come up a potent vaccine already. And yet, potential vaccines are still in human trial stage. I don't see that this is done for business sake. This is already pandemic and the whole world is suffering from it.


Title: Re: a disease or a virus or is there business in it?
Post by: Polar91 on March 22, 2020, 08:12:24 AM
Is there any chance that when the corona virus appears, some scientists have discovered the antidote of the virus itself so that there is an element of intention regarding the spread of the corona virus because there is a business element in it so that the antidote for the corona virus is sought after by many people, this is like a film about spreading viruses that can kill and destroy the economy globally. what do you think about this?
I think no. Corona virus had gone through enough for them to hold the possible antidote that can cure infected people. If it's really exisiting, they should've released it ASAP thus they can sell a lot but they didn't do. The reason why there is no certified antidote yet is because of the certification process. Establishing a valid cure for a certain virus takes process. A lot of tests and practices should be performed before it can be available in the market.


Title: Re: a disease or a virus or is there business in it?
Post by: Assface16678 on March 22, 2020, 08:36:09 AM
Is there any chance that when the corona virus appears, some scientists have discovered the antidote of the virus itself so that there is an element of intention regarding the spread of the corona virus because there is a business element in it so that the antidote for the corona virus is sought after by many people, this is like a film about spreading viruses that can kill and destroy the economy globally. what do you think about this?
I think no. Corona virus had gone through enough for them to hold the possible antidote that can cure infected people. If it's really exisiting, they should've released it ASAP thus they can sell a lot but they didn't do. The reason why there is no certified antidote yet is because of the certification process. Establishing a valid cure for a certain virus takes process. A lot of tests and practices should be performed before it can be available in the market.

From the previous week, there is a virus spreading rapidly into the china and this is because of the exotic foods they eat we cannot blame them because this is part of their culture and because of the virus spreading through physical contact it is rapidly spreading and comes for over the world and this might not a good thing because all of the countries gets alarmed and they buy a lot of things they need because there is a chance the lockdown of every place and this is happening already during the pandemic outbreak the stock market falls because some of their investors pull back their money and some of the people cannot go outside to buy something they need. And now some of the countries discover a cure but does not release into the public still they need to have a lot of tests. Still, it is better if we keep safe to avoid getting infected and support the market to increase again.


Title: Re: a disease or a virus or is there business in it?
Post by: Kurokonobasuke on March 22, 2020, 08:37:47 AM
Not good, it is not a chance to become a businessman this time, because the world is suffering from the pandemic corona virus so that we need a UNITY to surpass this kind of problem as ONE and not individually. When we think first about our business the other people especially in the low class of community will not get the cure because of the high price. So that if we give that the cure is for anyone as for free, all people will get safe. I think if someone who will use the crisis as their business they will get punishment by the international government, because it is not the time that we make money, it the time that we need a unity.


Title: Re: a disease or a virus or is there business in it?
Post by: onrise on March 22, 2020, 08:54:25 AM
Not good, it is not a chance to become a businessman this time, because the world is suffering from the pandemic corona virus so that we need a UNITY to surpass this kind of problem as ONE and not individually. When we think first about our business the other people especially in the low class of community will not get the cure because of the high price. So that if we give that the cure is for anyone as for free, all people will get safe. I think if someone who will use the crisis as their business they will get punishment by the international government, because it is not the time that we make money, it the time that we need a unity.

Not sure if their is a business in it as it was being tested in a lab and not created by a business man . Also the reason could be more bigger than this business as news is coming that this is being spread purposely by a country in order to evicted super power and break the economy’s of the rest of world which were doing not that bad considering the world’s growth .


Title: Re: a disease or a virus or is there business in it?
Post by: criza on March 22, 2020, 09:27:09 AM
Every possibility could be accepted regarding the said virus but, this one is outrageous. The given reason is far from possible because, obviously people would not do this kind of plan wherein they will put a lot of risk to the social and economic status around the globe like, the stock market that have put a lot of people into business and investments but now is down, business that needs massive customers to operate and would not go bankrupt like airlines and such.


Title: Re: a disease or a virus or is there business in it?
Post by: inanilujimi on March 22, 2020, 11:25:46 AM
Corona virus can cause death if a person's immune system is weak. In people whose immune systems are strong, even if infected with this virus it will not die, and has the potential to recover.
Deaths from Covid-19 are the highest in the age range of 60 years and above and also in people who have other congenital diseases. At the age of 60 years and over are no longer productive age.
so maybe nature is getting tired of seeing unreasonable human behavior, and eliminating some people for natural ecosystems for the better.


Title: Re: a disease or a virus or is there business in it?
Post by: Yatsan on March 22, 2020, 03:31:08 PM
You are right due to this capitalism they need the chance to try to to such a thing. this society is hooked in to superstition. They fool poor people and open their kingdoms. Capitalists don't take hold of everything, even the system is in their hands But nobody can do business with the Coronavirus because it's true and has spread everywhere the planet.
Inevitably there will be prices for cures. This is not only to rip the common joe out of his money but it is to both fund the cause, which in this case is finding the cure, and to also compensate the people who worked tirelessly in order to have these cures, be it vaccine or mere prescription drugs, be made. You wouldn't want to work with no pay in return, and so they do. It's less of capitalism and more of funding the cause. Inevitably thwre will be business for it, but it's not the main concern in this situation, it's finding the cure.


Title: Re: a disease or a virus or is there business in it?
Post by: buwaytress on March 22, 2020, 04:01:32 PM
I very much hope for the legalization of cryptocurrencies and that Bitcoin will take its place of honor as an international currency as a means of payment for every day for each person.  I very much hope that all my savings will not depreciate, as is now happening in the Fiat equivalent.  Today, in a pandemic, almost any entrepreneur is trying to earn at the expense of a simple person, because for example the cost of medical masks is $ 2, and they are already selling for $ 10.  Almost all food products have almost doubled in price, as well as all basic necessities for humans.  What caused this imitation?  Of course, because of the artificial manipulations of the government and businessmen.  At the same time, the national currency in my country fell significantly in relation to the dollar.  If I used a stable bitcoin, then it would be stable all the time, and not be subject to inflation like my national currency.

But Bitcoin already is an international currency and means of payment every day for every one able to access it. Tell me one other currency where you can easily find a willing buyer and/or seller in every country today. US dollar comes close but I'd be hard-pressed to find someone willing to take my dollars for local currencies of most countries I'm likely to visit. Bitcoin on the other hand I'll find someone online in 1 minute and get the transaction done in another minute.

We don't need legalization of crypto... that's the best thing about Bitcoin.

Bitcoin's not exactly stable too, in fact, it's in the highest period of volatility it's ever been for years.


Title: Re: a disease or a virus or is there business in it?
Post by: FlightyPouch on March 22, 2020, 04:26:19 PM
Is there any chance that when the corona virus appears, some scientists have discovered the antidote of the virus itself so that there is an element of intention regarding the spread of the corona virus because there is a business element in it so that the antidote for the corona virus is sought after by many people, this is like a film about spreading viruses that can kill and destroy the economy globally. what do you think about this?

I doubt that this is something out of a movie with a villain wanting to wipe the earth clean out of its people. If this is a plot of someone or a country or a group of people for profit, I don't know what to say. Medicines to counter covid-19 are said to be used for testing and despite that, a lot of people are already recovering from the virus.


Title: Re: a disease or a virus or is there business in it?
Post by: coolcoinz on March 22, 2020, 05:47:40 PM
You are right due to this capitalism they need the chance to try to to such a thing. this society is hooked in to superstition. They fool poor people and open their kingdoms. Capitalists don't take hold of everything, even the system is in their hands But nobody can do business with the Coronavirus because it's true and has spread everywhere the planet.

So capitalism is bad in your opinion, but what is better? Communism? Socialism? Give me a break!
This virus is the new form of global terrorism. I'm sure that ISIS and similar groups will now be more interested in buying germs than finincing suicide bombings and people who steal trucks and ram them into the unsuspecting crowd.


Title: Re: a disease or a virus or is there business in it?
Post by: Magkirap on March 23, 2020, 03:07:40 AM
Is there any chance that when the corona virus appears, some scientists have discovered the antidote of the virus itself so that there is an element of intention regarding the spread of the corona virus because there is a business element in it so that the antidote for the corona virus is sought after by many people, this is like a film about spreading viruses that can kill and destroy the economy globally. what do you think about this?

I doubt that this is something out of a movie with a villain wanting to wipe the earth clean out of its people. If this is a plot of someone or a country or a group of people for profit, I don't know what to say. Medicines to counter covid-19 are said to be used for testing and despite that, a lot of people are already recovering from the virus.

If someone or some group of people rrally have done this things to the world for the sole reason of profit then humanity is fading for us, once this is proven what do you think people will do about those people, how will they react after this, this can cause dramatic changes in our world. About the antidote, our own body has its way of fighting the virus, i think people recovers because they eliminate the symptoms despite not using a specific vaccine for the virus but of course a real vaccine is much needed for those people who are struggling with the virus.


Title: Re: a disease or a virus or is there business in it?
Post by: btc78 on March 23, 2020, 03:23:11 AM
Is there any chance that when the corona virus appears, some scientists have discovered the antidote of the virus itself so that there is an element of intention regarding the spread of the corona virus because there is a business element in it so that the antidote for the corona virus is sought after by many people, this is like a film about spreading viruses that can kill and destroy the economy globally. what do you think about this?
We can think everything under the sun Now because there are too many theories and talking about the truth behind this Virus spreading.

there are some Viral Videos about the experimental Project of China that fails and the Virus is accidentally broken in Wuhan china and thousands if not million died in that specific province it self.

so your theory can be happening but who knows?we are all here to speculate since government is the only way to gather data for this epidemic .


Title: Re: a disease or a virus or is there business in it?
Post by: FanEagle on March 23, 2020, 06:22:10 PM
Well, I had a friend who wanted to order a million dollars worth of those products that checks your temp and see if you have fever if you don't, that way he could have made a lot of money but he was too late and we couldn't find any at a proper price so we couldn't do it.

If that dude wanted to buy that product a month earlier or two months earlier he could have bought it 6 times cheaper and could have gotten it in a week to his warehouse delivered. Which means by today's prices he could have turned that a million dollar investment into six million dollars. That is just a dude who had a million dollars that wanted to buy that product, I am pretty sure if you look at it in different perspectives we could find a ton more places that could make money from this.


Title: Re: a disease or a virus or is there business in it?
Post by: FlightyPouch on March 25, 2020, 12:24:28 PM
Is there any chance that when the corona virus appears, some scientists have discovered the antidote of the virus itself so that there is an element of intention regarding the spread of the corona virus because there is a business element in it so that the antidote for the corona virus is sought after by many people, this is like a film about spreading viruses that can kill and destroy the economy globally. what do you think about this?

I doubt that this is something out of a movie with a villain wanting to wipe the earth clean out of its people. If this is a plot of someone or a country or a group of people for profit, I don't know what to say. Medicines to counter covid-19 are said to be used for testing and despite that, a lot of people are already recovering from the virus.

If someone or some group of people rrally have done this things to the world for the sole reason of profit then humanity is fading for us, once this is proven what do you think people will do about those people, how will they react after this, this can cause dramatic changes in our world. About the antidote, our own body has its way of fighting the virus, i think people recovers because they eliminate the symptoms despite not using a specific vaccine for the virus but of course a real vaccine is much needed for those people who are struggling with the virus.

We can't really fight the virus. There are a lot of people with high immunity to the symptoms but still got the virus. As far as I know, if someone got the symptoms they are immediately tested and given medicines to stop them. Also, not all of the people will be the same immunity as you. The virus is said to stick in a body for 10 days, some articles say that it can also reach up to 3 weeks so, despite your high immunity,  you may pass that to other people including your family. The annoying thing about all of this is that in our country, these politicians are prioritizing themselves to use the kits even though they are not included to those people that already have it.


Title: Re: a disease or a virus or is there business in it?
Post by: LazerSMS on March 25, 2020, 12:50:10 PM
So capitalism is bad in your opinion, but what is better? Communism? Socialism? Give me a break!
This virus is the new form of global terrorism. I'm sure that ISIS and similar groups will now be more interested in buying germs than finincing suicide bombings and people who steal trucks and ram them into the unsuspecting crowd.

What about subsistence agriculture, in that case at least you can quarantine entire villages pretty fast and the Kingdom won't suffer for that as veggies are decentralized.

Seeds and shovels, the next big thing.


Title: Re: a disease or a virus or is there business in it?
Post by: milewilda on March 25, 2020, 02:59:14 PM
Is there any chance that when the corona virus appears, some scientists have discovered the antidote of the virus itself so that there is an element of intention regarding the spread of the corona virus because there is a business element in it so that the antidote for the corona virus is sought after by many people, this is like a film about spreading viruses that can kill and destroy the economy globally. what do you think about this?

It does exist but on the current situation we cant point out fingers if this one is really made up intentionally on a lab and release it to public to scatter it out.
For people who do just mind on making money where risking many lives globally doesnt really have a soul.So i dont believe much that it is totally intentional or just been drama.
Just like for example where war is a business yet we know that firearms are being bought and other related stuff https://www.quora.com/Why-is-war-such-a-big-business-How-do-countries-profit-from-it


Title: Re: a disease or a virus or is there business in it?
Post by: princesspoppy on March 25, 2020, 03:33:48 PM
With so many speculations and theories about the origin of this virus, I do not know what to believed in anymore. I don't want to think of the worse scenario that may have happened to its origin but if it is really true that this virus originated from a laboratory in China to be used as a weapon for other country, it is really disappointing and it seems like people are getting worse and worse everytime for them to come up with this kind of plan. Such a pity for all of us.

As for the antidote, if these people can really be this bad to others, then they may also come up with the plan to gain tons of money if ever they discover antidote for it. With the current situation today, pharmaceuticals and those people having sanitary materials and equipment are already making big amount of profit from this virus.

It seems like money is more important than lives of people and it really is disappointing and heartbreaking to know that there are people who do not have considerations and care for others.


Title: Re: a disease or a virus or is there business in it?
Post by: Pixyoxx on March 25, 2020, 03:56:07 PM
This Disease Originated From China Is Destroying Economy World Wide Although We can see some stocks of some small companies going up But Mainly The Pharma Stocks Are Going Down So I dont Think That This Disease Is Somehow Related To Business. This Epidemic is just killing people more than we could even imagine I hope That We come Up with a Antidote Soon And Another Dark Chapter Of 2020 closes ASAP. Pray For Those People


Title: Re: a disease or a virus or is there business in it?
Post by: Spaffin on March 27, 2020, 10:33:45 AM
I very much hope for the legalization of cryptocurrencies and that Bitcoin will take its place of honor as an international currency as a means of payment for every day for each person.  I very much hope that all my savings will not depreciate, as is now happening in the Fiat equivalent.  Today, in a pandemic, almost any entrepreneur is trying to earn at the expense of a simple person, because for example the cost of medical masks is $ 2, and they are already selling for $ 10.  Almost all food products have almost doubled in price, as well as all basic necessities for humans.  What caused this imitation?  Of course, because of the artificial manipulations of the government and businessmen.  At the same time, the national currency in my country fell significantly in relation to the dollar.  If I used a stable bitcoin, then it would be stable all the time, and not be subject to inflation like my national currency.

But Bitcoin already is an international currency and means of payment every day for every one able to access it. Tell me one other currency where you can easily find a willing buyer and/or seller in every country today. US dollar comes close but I'd be hard-pressed to find someone willing to take my dollars for local currencies of most countries I'm likely to visit. Bitcoin on the other hand I'll find someone online in 1 minute and get the transaction done in another minute.

We don't need legalization of crypto... that's the best thing about Bitcoin.

Bitcoin's not exactly stable too, in fact, it's in the highest period of volatility it's ever been for years.
You are absolutely right that Bitcoin does not need legalization and that Bitcoin has already taken place as an international cryptocurrency.  But I'm talking about those moments that prevent everyone from using Bitcoin in everyday life.  I believe that the circle of cryptocurrency users is still not too large, and at the same time, the infrastructure for using Bitcoin as a means of payment is just beginning to develop.  But the fact is that many feel certain difficulties due to certain decrees of the government, so I believe that cryptocurrency should be legalized at the state level, so that not one law prevents users from using it at their discretion.


Title: Re: a disease or a virus or is there business in it?
Post by: mu_enrico on March 27, 2020, 12:34:12 PM
Well, the latest theory suggests that the virus may jump around from animal to animal, exchange genes, acquired its final form, and then infect humans.

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The new coronavirus’ similarity to both a bat virus and a pangolin virus suggests that viruses from the two animals may have exchanged genes at some point before infecting people (SN: 3/26/20). The pangolin viruses, however, lack a feature seen in SARS-CoV-2 that may have helped the virus make the leap to humans — a hint that the virus may have acquired an adaptation in another, not yet identified, animal before spreading around the globe.
https://www.sciencenews.org/article/covid-19-no-evidence-coronavirus-jumped-pangolin-people

This sh*t should be extremely rare (or non-probable) if humans didn't create black markets for wild animals.

However, of course, for every unfortunate event, there are conspiracy theories that varied from completely BS to some degree of truth behind it.


Title: Re: a disease or a virus or is there business in it?
Post by: buwaytress on March 27, 2020, 12:52:46 PM
But Bitcoin already is an international currency and means of payment every day for every one able to access it. Tell me one other currency where you can easily find a willing buyer and/or seller in every country today. US dollar comes close but I'd be hard-pressed to find someone willing to take my dollars for local currencies of most countries I'm likely to visit. Bitcoin on the other hand I'll find someone online in 1 minute and get the transaction done in another minute.

We don't need legalization of crypto... that's the best thing about Bitcoin.

Bitcoin's not exactly stable too, in fact, it's in the highest period of volatility it's ever been for years.
You are absolutely right that Bitcoin does not need legalization and that Bitcoin has already taken place as an international cryptocurrency.  But I'm talking about those moments that prevent everyone from using Bitcoin in everyday life.  I believe that the circle of cryptocurrency users is still not too large, and at the same time, the infrastructure for using Bitcoin as a means of payment is just beginning to develop.  But the fact is that many feel certain difficulties due to certain decrees of the government, so I believe that cryptocurrency should be legalized at the state level, so that not one zakom prevents users from using it at their discretion.

But what exactly is it that is preventing Bitcoin use in everyday life? Even if we look at the countries that have banned (or attempted to ban crypto) what exactly did it stop? It stopped crypto exchanges and banking with bitcoin-related business BUT people found a way around it. They learned how to do P2P trading, they learnt to send and receive bitcoin directly, without the need for a third party exchange or third party wallet.

And then the states realised people were learning to do this anyway.

I still see it as a win-win no matter what. Legalization helps enterprise and business for sure, but everyday you and me we use BTC no matter what.


Title: Re: a disease or a virus or is there business in it?
Post by: tbterryboy on March 27, 2020, 05:40:28 PM
Is there any chance that when the corona virus appears, some scientists have discovered the antidote of the virus itself so that there is an element of intention regarding the spread of the corona virus because there is a business element in it so that the antidote for the corona virus is sought after by many people, this is like a film about spreading viruses that can kill and destroy the economy globally. what do you think about this?
I don’t really think anyone has the antidote for curing the coronavirus. If someone really does have the antidote, don’t you think the virus has spread enough and they should have released it by now? ??? The only way that the virus can be stopped now is by what’s already being done, quarantining those that are affected by the virus and also telling the public to stay indoors and avoid crowded places.

The virus will soon be subdued I believe and after that, businesses will start up again and everything resume and return to normal.


Title: Re: a disease or a virus or is there business in it?
Post by: nosferzd on March 27, 2020, 06:27:57 PM
There is a chance that scientists will find a vaccine, but it is predicted that it will take about 6 to 12 months, the virus quickly adapts and mutates. If we talk about the elements of business - now speculation has begun on the background of the coronavirus. A simple example is masks. In pharmacies, they are difficult to get, but you can order on Aliexpress 3-4 times more expensive than the market value.


Title: Re: a disease or a virus or is there business in it?
Post by: alexsandria on March 27, 2020, 06:29:05 PM
So many people are having difficulty on the finding food and there are so many people right now that are jobless just because of this coronavirus and yet you are thinking about business through the help of the virus? It's a big NO!
If you will br the one to have been discovered the antidote on how to cute the coronavirus will you do it for a business? If yes then probably listen to your conscience first.


Title: Re: a disease or a virus or is there business in it?
Post by: shoreno on March 27, 2020, 11:05:28 PM
So many people are having difficulty on the finding food and there are so many people right now that are jobless just because of this coronavirus and yet you are thinking about business through the help of the virus? It's a big NO!
If you will br the one to have been discovered the antidote on how to cute the coronavirus will you do it for a business? If yes then probably listen to your conscience first.

depends on the people .business minded people will likely sell it because they think off the profit but some will give it for free  . there are those who make business on this crisis like the ones that make face mask because face mask is one of the indemand tools that is badly needed theseday to protect one selves from getting infection  . there are those who buy products and horde it and then resell for a higher value  , that is bad because other people havent got the chance to purchase that product   . business shouldnt be like this imo but it can be a fair and square  .


Title: Re: a disease or a virus or is there business in it?
Post by: Janation on March 28, 2020, 04:04:48 AM
There is a chance that scientists will find a vaccine, but it is predicted that it will take about 6 to 12 months, the virus quickly adapts and mutates. If we talk about the elements of business - now speculation has begun on the background of the coronavirus. A simple example is masks. In pharmacies, they are difficult to get, but you can order on Aliexpress 3-4 times more expensive than the market value.


In our country, the government is wanting to launch clinical trials for the vaccine.  (https://cnnphilippines.com/news/2020/3/18/Philippines-coronavirus-COVID-19-vaccine-trials.html?fbclid=IwAR0uyW8hHZHIsuOK-n9Mxw6VUrn6XEBZRz9OBb1BQNXgLvVisgUi1p4S474)

This might be a long time before we can see the real vaccine that will fight this virus. A lot of health institutions are racing to formulate this vaccine, some even are helping each other. It is said that almost 41 research groups and pharmaceutical companies are working for the vaccine (https://sciencebusiness.net/news/race-covid-19-vaccine), I just hope that they could quickly discover that vaccine for the good of the world.


Title: Re: a disease or a virus or is there business in it?
Post by: verita1 on March 28, 2020, 05:44:29 AM
At no time have I've thought that the vaccine or the antidote has a business interest. I think that scientists have not been able to find the vaccine to prevent the virus from spreading further.
It is amazing to see the number of people affected and dead as well as the decline of the economy that we will suffer.
Control of the Coronavirus got out of hand for China and they could not prevent the spread. The rulers of the world did not take the necessary precautions to control it because they were more interested in the value of their stock market actions than humanity.


Title: Re: a disease or a virus or is there business in it?
Post by: verita1 on March 28, 2020, 05:53:58 AM
There is a chance that scientists will find a vaccine, but it is predicted that it will take about 6 to 12 months, the virus quickly adapts and mutates. If we talk about the elements of business - now speculation has begun on the background of the coronavirus. A simple example is masks. In pharmacies, they are difficult to get, but you can order on Aliexpress 3-4 times more expensive than the market value.


In our country, the government is wanting to launch clinical trials for the vaccine.  (https://cnnphilippines.com/news/2020/3/18/Philippines-coronavirus-COVID-19-vaccine-trials.html?fbclid=IwAR0uyW8hHZHIsuOK-n9Mxw6VUrn6XEBZRz9OBb1BQNXgLvVisgUi1p4S474)

This might be a long time before we can see the real vaccine that will fight this virus. A lot of health institutions are racing to formulate this vaccine, some even are helping each other. It is said that almost 41 research groups and pharmaceutical companies are working for the vaccine (https://sciencebusiness.net/news/race-covid-19-vaccine), I just hope that they could quickly discover that vaccine for the good of the world.

This is good and hopeful news. I also want the tests to give positive results among patients and to get rid of the Covid19 pandemic. The Philippines is recognized for having good epidemiologists and the article points to the collaboration of the most important world-class pharmaceutical laboratories.
Thanks for sharing!


Title: Re: a disease or a virus or is there business in it?
Post by: carlisle1 on March 28, 2020, 06:33:05 AM
Is there any chance that when the corona virus appears, some scientists have discovered the antidote of the virus itself so that there is an element of intention regarding the spread of the corona virus because there is a business element in it so that the antidote for the corona virus is sought after by many people, this is like a film about spreading viruses that can kill and destroy the economy globally. what do you think about this?
If they have a Demonic personalities then yeah this is possible because only those who have no Heart can afford doing such things.

hundreds of thousands are dying now and increasing everyday and there they are hoarding the cure?
how i wish i have a chance to have the cure because i cannot stand reading news over and over about the people dying just because of this virus.


Title: Re: a disease or a virus or is there business in it?
Post by: bearexin on March 28, 2020, 07:55:41 AM
Crypto related business? I don't think so. But general just a business? I am sure there must be, you can literally start an online business right now and promote it very well and get quite viral all thanks to people staying at home. There are companies who help you get trending topic of a region if you pay them, it will be mainly bots who talks about you and you do not get a great deal of favorites due to being promoted by bots, but that is literally a perfect way to get known at least, create a public awareness.

So, anyone with 1000 dollars could create a business that will get hundreds of customers in day one if you are smart enough. Specially business that doesn't make money from the users but make money from the advertisements due to high users will get a lot of profits these days.


Title: Re: a disease or a virus or is there business in it?
Post by: Spaffin on March 28, 2020, 02:44:26 PM
But Bitcoin already is an international currency and means of payment every day for every one able to access it. Tell me one other currency where you can easily find a willing buyer and/or seller in every country today. US dollar comes close but I'd be hard-pressed to find someone willing to take my dollars for local currencies of most countries I'm likely to visit. Bitcoin on the other hand I'll find someone online in 1 minute and get the transaction done in another minute.

We don't need legalization of crypto... that's the best thing about Bitcoin.

Bitcoin's not exactly stable too, in fact, it's in the highest period of volatility it's ever been for years.
You are absolutely right that Bitcoin does not need legalization and that Bitcoin has already taken place as an international cryptocurrency.  But I'm talking about those moments that prevent everyone from using Bitcoin in everyday life.  I believe that the circle of cryptocurrency users is still not too large, and at the same time, the infrastructure for using Bitcoin as a means of payment is just beginning to develop.  But the fact is that many feel certain difficulties due to certain decrees of the government, so I believe that cryptocurrency should be legalized at the state level, so that not one zakom prevents users from using it at their discretion.

But what exactly is it that is preventing Bitcoin use in everyday life? Even if we look at the countries that have banned (or attempted to ban crypto) what exactly did it stop? It stopped crypto exchanges and banking with bitcoin-related business BUT people found a way around it. They learned how to do P2P trading, they learnt to send and receive bitcoin directly, without the need for a third party exchange or third party wallet.

And then the states realised people were learning to do this anyway.

I still see it as a win-win no matter what. Legalization helps enterprise and business for sure, but everyday you and me we use BTC no matter what.
I believe that some control should concern not just a cryptocurrency user, but really only businessmen and companies that must submit reports to the tax office.  Of course, in this situation, governments can introduce certain restrictions, where even a simple user will have to pay a certain tax for a cryptocurrency transaction if the cost exceeds a certain amount in monetary terms.  Until recently, it was very difficult to use cryptocurrency in my country as a means of payment, although there were still certain online stores, where I can buy digital technology, but nothing more.  Perhaps today I am personally limited in my capabilities, because I do not go abroad and do not use many opportunities to use cryptocurrency, but nevertheless, today state laws do not prohibit me from doing what I do, and my activity  It is limited to trading in the cryptocurrency market, investments and the withdrawal of a small amount of cryptocurrency in Fiat to replenish the home budget.  Of course, I understand what you are talking about, because I work without problems on the cryptocurrency market, But if the shops, firms and other companies that people need are not limited by the state, then I believe the capabilities of cryptocurrency users will increase as  and the number of users themselves.


Title: Re: a disease or a virus or is there business in it?
Post by: wozzek23 on March 28, 2020, 04:44:03 PM
Is there any chance that when the corona virus appears, some scientists have discovered the antidote of the virus itself so that there is an element of intention regarding the spread of the corona virus because there is a business element in it so that the antidote for the corona virus is sought after by many people, this is like a film about spreading viruses that can kill and destroy the economy globally. what do you think about this?
I don’t ready know anything about this, except that it is a virus that started in China and then spreading throughout the world. I don’t know if there is any cure for it or not, though there’s been some people around where I live saying that there has been a book that predicted this kind of an outbreak, but I’m not going to start saying that here now, it’s not really something that I like to say lol.

But anyway, if there is truly any cure for it I believe that it would have been out by now. There is no cure yet, except that there are vaccines that are being tested and they have said it will cure the symptoms, and this vaccine is not coming out any time soon.


Title: Re: a disease or a virus or is there business in it?
Post by: Renampun on March 28, 2020, 08:09:12 PM
You are right due to this capitalism they need the chance to try to to such a thing. this society is hooked in to superstition. They fool poor people and open their kingdoms. Capitalists don't take hold of everything, even the system is in their hands But nobody can do business with the Coronavirus because it's true and has spread everywhere the planet.

So capitalism is bad in your opinion, but what is better? Communism? Socialism? Give me a break!
This virus is the new form of global terrorism. I'm sure that ISIS and similar groups will now be more interested in buying germs than finincing suicide bombings and people who steal trucks and ram them into the unsuspecting crowd.
biological weapons are the most dangerous threat in the future...
It would be very dangerous if terrorists like ISIS really use biological weapons to kill their enemies, and we must still prepare for all possibilities in the future. A pandemic that is sweeping the world today is an example that "the future" cannot be predicted and "the present" must be made a lesson.


Title: Re: a disease or a virus or is there business in it?
Post by: hahay on March 28, 2020, 08:36:26 PM
Not sure of having another purpose in this case because even many businesses are temporarily closed due to the corona pandemic, an illness is an unexpected event to grow behind a business, so if it is related to the disease then it seems unlikely there is another purpose or purpose behind all this or other diseases.


Title: Re: a disease or a virus or is there business in it?
Post by: mersal on March 28, 2020, 09:40:23 PM
Not sure of having another purpose in this case because even many businesses are temporarily closed due to the corona pandemic, an illness is an unexpected event to grow behind a business, so if it is related to the disease then it seems unlikely there is another purpose or purpose behind all this or other diseases.
Some governments are going to make profits from thie economic crashes that is why conspiracies like bio war between countries started to roll out over social media.Or even it could be created by someone who holds huge amount of stocks so he sold everything before the crash and can buy the same amount now for half or even less cheaper than the original prices.


Title: Re: a disease or a virus or is there business in it?
Post by: FlightyPouch on March 28, 2020, 10:00:49 PM
Not sure of having another purpose in this case because even many businesses are temporarily closed due to the corona pandemic, an illness is an unexpected event to grow behind a business, so if it is related to the disease then it seems unlikely there is another purpose or purpose behind all this or other diseases.
Some governments are going to make profits from thie economic crashes that is why conspiracies like bio war between countries started to roll out over social media.Or even it could be created by someone who holds huge amount of stocks so he sold everything before the crash and can buy the same amount now for half or even less cheaper than the original prices.

I think these is just a conspiracy that people think with a lot of time in their hands right now since they are quarantined in their houses. At first I thought this could be a scheme of someone but right now, I don't know. China are having a hard time containing the virus as people are being tested positive while they are primarily negative at first tests. (https://www.npr.org/sections/goatsandsoda/2020/03/27/822407626/mystery-in-wuhan-recovered-coronavirus-patients-test-negative-then-positive) This is crazy.


Title: Re: a disease or a virus or is there business in it?
Post by: Janation on March 29, 2020, 01:20:43 AM
Not sure of having another purpose in this case because even many businesses are temporarily closed due to the corona pandemic, an illness is an unexpected event to grow behind a business, so if it is related to the disease then it seems unlikely there is another purpose or purpose behind all this or other diseases.
Some governments are going to make profits from thie economic crashes that is why conspiracies like bio war between countries started to roll out over social media.Or even it could be created by someone who holds huge amount of stocks so he sold everything before the crash and can buy the same amount now for half or even less cheaper than the original prices.

It is pretty common for people to have that kind of thinking in these kinds of time.

A lot of conspiracies and theories while those countries they are thinking that started it are both suffering from the pandemic. I don't think we should really point our fingers to anyone here, this is not an inside business for a country to succeed over one another, it is a pandemic where people should walk hand by hand despite the difference, their race and the past to stop for the good of the world.


Title: Re: a disease or a virus or is there business in it?
Post by: rdbase on March 29, 2020, 01:34:55 AM
I dont think they would of been able to produce a vaccine so quickly as it had been declared a pandemic within just this month. And the scientists who have been working on one say once they find a so called cure they would need a year before it were to be released to the public due to testing it first so to see if there would be any side effects.
If there are 50 doctors in Italy dying from it within a day, then this shows they are well off in finding a cure for it anytime soon. :-[


Title: Re: a disease or a virus or is there business in it?
Post by: mersal on March 29, 2020, 04:01:52 PM
Not sure of having another purpose in this case because even many businesses are temporarily closed due to the corona pandemic, an illness is an unexpected event to grow behind a business, so if it is related to the disease then it seems unlikely there is another purpose or purpose behind all this or other diseases.
Some governments are going to make profits from thie economic crashes that is why conspiracies like bio war between countries started to roll out over social media.Or even it could be created by someone who holds huge amount of stocks so he sold everything before the crash and can buy the same amount now for half or even less cheaper than the original prices.

I think these is just a conspiracy that people think with a lot of time in their hands right now since they are quarantined in their houses. At first I thought this could be a scheme of someone but right now, I don't know. China are having a hard time containing the virus as people are being tested positive while they are primarily negative at first tests. (https://www.npr.org/sections/goatsandsoda/2020/03/27/822407626/mystery-in-wuhan-recovered-coronavirus-patients-test-negative-then-positive) This is crazy.
Still they showed 90% recovery rate which is too far from other countries and now people started telling that China spread this virus only after they found cure for this so based on that view there could be a lot of business tactics behind this virus name.But whatever the situation when every individual started to take security precautions then it will be easier for to contain the spread.


Title: Re: a disease or a virus or is there business in it?
Post by: Viscore on March 29, 2020, 11:28:33 PM
I dont think they would of been able to produce a vaccine so quickly as it had been declared a pandemic within just this month. And the scientists who have been working on one say once they find a so called cure they would need a year before it were to be released to the public due to testing it first so to see if there would be any side effects.
If there are 50 doctors in Italy dying from it within a day, then this shows they are well off in finding a cure for it anytime soon. :-[
So we can expect that more and more people will die, and the best thing for us the public to do now is just to cooperate with by staying at home so we will not be infected with the virus, it's very sad to know that it will take for the vaccine to produce as everyday matters since its been killing lives on infected people.


Title: Re: a disease or a virus or is there business in it?
Post by: Botnake on March 30, 2020, 09:10:02 AM
I dont think they would of been able to produce a vaccine so quickly as it had been declared a pandemic within just this month. And the scientists who have been working on one say once they find a so called cure they would need a year before it were to be released to the public due to testing it first so to see if there would be any side effects.
If there are 50 doctors in Italy dying from it within a day, then this shows they are well off in finding a cure for it anytime soon. :-[
So we can expect that more and more people will die, and the best thing for us the public to do now is just to cooperate with by staying at home so we will not be infected with the virus, it's very sad to know that it will take for the vaccine to produce as everyday matters since its been killing lives on infected people.
I have no idea if that would really be the case, but I know if it will take a year before the vaccine will be available to the people, there will be more deaths that is going to happen, 1 million death is just a conservative estimate, there will be more, so I guess they'll fast tract everything and it will be available very soon to save lives.


Title: Re: a disease or a virus or is there business in it?
Post by: thesmallgod on March 30, 2020, 10:20:05 AM
With the various fundings and grant especially that are presently being offered by WHO and other health organization, I do not think anybody will have the cure and still hide it for a business reason because there are no lucrative business such cure can offer above the one on the ground. Aside this, I really think anybody with the cure will automatically become noble and I have no doubt that there will be unlimited recognition including being awarded nobel laurel.


Title: Re: a disease or a virus or is there business in it?
Post by: Emitdama on April 04, 2020, 10:07:32 AM
I know many people think that it is funny looking and they are trying to find ways to say maybe this is not something that happened because of some guy eating some bat or whatever, but absolutely nobody would want an uncontrollable virus outbreak in the world, UK prime minister literally has corona, this is not a joke, it is not something you can control.

I can understand creating some sort of thing that makes you a specific cancer, why? Because, you can have the cure for that type of cancer very well and you can sell it to people, we are talking about death again, the most horrible thing you can do, literally kill people or tell them you can save them or they will die, so that is still as evil as it gets, but you CAN control it. You can't control corona, that is the difference.


Title: Re: a disease or a virus or is there business in it?
Post by: michellee on April 04, 2020, 11:25:45 AM
I dont think they would of been able to produce a vaccine so quickly as it had been declared a pandemic within just this month. And the scientists who have been working on one say once they find a so called cure they would need a year before it were to be released to the public due to testing it first so to see if there would be any side effects.
If there are 50 doctors in Italy dying from it within a day, then this shows they are well off in finding a cure for it anytime soon. :-[
So we can expect that more and more people will die, and the best thing for us the public to do now is just to cooperate with by staying at home so we will not be infected with the virus, it's very sad to know that it will take for the vaccine to produce as everyday matters since its been killing lives on infected people.

I hope that the government can do as much as they can to help people before they all die, but the government needs cooperation from the citizen. People need to isolate themselves in their homes and don't go out for a while. That is important to prevent the virus while the medic is work out there. Yes, it is very sad to see how many people will die without the vaccine, but we can prevent that by keeping ourselves healthy.


Title: Re: a disease or a virus or is there business in it?
Post by: abhiseshakana on April 10, 2020, 12:16:38 AM
I hope that the government can do as much as they can to help people before they all die, but the government needs cooperation from the citizen. People need to isolate themselves in their homes and don't go out for a while. That is important to prevent the virus while the medic is work out there. Yes, it is very sad to see how many people will die without the vaccine, but we can prevent that by keeping ourselves healthy.

The role of the state and the role of each individual is needed now to work hand in hand. Many parties have begun to question the assistance of political parties, personal assistance from the people's representatives who during the election are usually active in distributing basic needs with the aim of supporting the mass in order to win the election.

The worst condition is that there is no directed global coordination to resolve this pandemic, even though the coronavirus has entered the global pandemic. Without joint coordination, it would be difficult to stem this outbreak because each country has different goals and policies and strategies in resolving the corona pandemic.

It's just that with conventional economic patterns in accordance with IMF and world bank regulations, how long can a country's government last for budged easing. There must be an awareness of each individual to think of the ending first so we can think of what steps we can take. All information about corona has been obtained from preventive measures, the origin of the virus and also the many conspiracy theories ranging from China as the mastermind, the Americans who spread it, the global elite to the theory that this is the agenda depopulation in a civilized way.

The choice is now in the hands of each citizen, letting the news of the coronavirus drive us crazy or we begin to move to take responsive and positive action if we don't end this corona pandemic. How long will our resilience be in a situation like this, then we also begin to predict and calculate how long the government can last in a situation like this. Of course, the answer will lead to total savings so that our reserves are reduced as slowly as possible, and we begin to think about brilliant ideas to get money in difficult conditions and with all our limitations and the limitations of the government.


Title: Re: a disease or a virus or is there business in it?
Post by: Ronaldcoin2017 on April 10, 2020, 03:27:56 AM
I think there is no business on it in fact these virus affect some business and it also scared everyone because we can all be dead if we dont follow our government rules to just stay home for us to be safe, i believe that there is no business or no one can think that there is a business on this pandemic we really need to pray.


Title: Re: a disease or a virus or is there business in it?
Post by: Oasisman on April 10, 2020, 07:14:29 AM
I think there is no business on it in fact these virus affect some business and it also scared everyone because we can all be dead if we dont follow our government rules to just stay home for us to be safe, i believe that there is no business or no one can think that there is a business on this pandemic we really need to pray.

Well, the spread of covid may not be intended to have business behind it, but people finds business from it. I mean hoarders of basic necessities such as ethyl acohol, face mask, tissues, and etc. I have find several people who sold these stuff double or tripled the srp. just before the pandemic.
Yes, majority of the local businesses were affected, that's where some people became desperate and find ways to earn even with the risks of contracting the virus.


Title: Re: a disease or a virus or is there business in it?
Post by: perfect999 on April 10, 2020, 06:05:13 PM
Lol I have seen some people throw this question around on Twitter and I don’t believe it. There is no antidote or whatsoever, I think if there is any, by now whoever is holding it would have released it after much pretense to be able to convince the world that they just randomly came up with a cure and are not in any way involved in what happened. The world is already close to the cure, a vaccine that will help subdue the symptoms of the Covid-19 virus and help those infected to recover quickly.

Very soon they will start testing the vaccine, I have already been seeing news about the vaccine all over the internet and I believe it will be out soon, by God’s grace.


Title: Re: a disease or a virus or is there business in it?
Post by: onrise on April 10, 2020, 06:51:44 PM
I think there is no business on it in fact these virus affect some business and it also scared everyone because we can all be dead if we dont follow our government rules to just stay home for us to be safe, i believe that there is no business or no one can think that there is a business on this pandemic we really need to pray.

This has effected almost all the businesses and has effected someway or other to each person . It has put world economy backward . Many people have died due to this virus and many are suffering . Hardly business are working or able to sell . Only essential commodities products would be available now .


Title: Re: a disease or a virus or is there business in it?
Post by: Subbir on April 11, 2020, 02:41:30 AM
I accept as true with you that there's no business of disease or virus it's a plague and spreads everywhere the planet nobody can ever do business about it most are spending tons of fear. We all got to be safe and pray for God to stay us safe from this epidemic in order that the amount of traumatic and fatalities is increasing.


Title: Re: a disease or a virus or is there business in it?
Post by: Savemore on April 11, 2020, 03:53:43 AM
Lol I have seen some people throw this question around on Twitter and I don’t believe it. There is no antidote or whatsoever, I think if there is any, by now whoever is holding it would have released it after much pretense to be able to convince the world that they just randomly came up with a cure and are not in any way involved in what happened. The world is already close to the cure, a vaccine that will help subdue the symptoms of the Covid-19 virus and help those infected to recover quickly.

Very soon they will start testing the vaccine, I have already been seeing news about the vaccine all over the internet and I believe it will be out soon, by God’s grace.
For sure that those pharmaceutical companies are gaining massive profits today because they are the one who creating mask, protective equipments and also drugs that can cure people who have infected with the virus. They say that this is a trillion dollar profit for the pharmaceutical company who will be invented a vaccine or antidote that can cure the infected persons. The vaacine should not be invented because there are many people who will suffer more because of the virus.


Title: Re: a disease or a virus or is there business in it?
Post by: imstillthebest on April 11, 2020, 06:00:06 AM
Lol I have seen some people throw this question around on Twitter and I don’t believe it. There is no antidote or whatsoever, I think if there is any, by now whoever is holding it would have released it after much pretense to be able to convince the world that they just randomly came up with a cure and are not in any way involved in what happened. The world is already close to the cure, a vaccine that will help subdue the symptoms of the Covid-19 virus and help those infected to recover quickly.

Very soon they will start testing the vaccine, I have already been seeing news about the vaccine all over the internet and I believe it will be out soon, by God’s grace.
For sure that those pharmaceutical companies are gaining massive profits today because they are the one who creating mask, protective equipments and also drugs that can cure people who have infected with the virus. They say that this is a trillion dollar profit for the pharmaceutical company who will be invented a vaccine or antidote that can cure the infected persons. The vaacine should not be invented because there are many people who will suffer more because of the virus.

vaccine shouldnt be invented  ? why  . if many people suffer then they should invent it asap but i heard there are now available for testings  .

 with a huge bounty waiting for those inventors of antidote ,  i dont think people will act slow or lazy to invent one  .  when it comes to creating mask and other equipments , a regular individual can also create an improvised one aside from the drugs which pharmacit or pharmaceutical can only create  . still vitamins and meds now are so indemand so they them selves make huge profit  .


Title: Re: a disease or a virus or is there business in it?
Post by: Dr.Osh on April 11, 2020, 06:40:54 AM
Is there any chance that when the corona virus appears, some scientists have discovered the antidote of the virus itself so that there is an element of intention regarding the spread of the corona virus because there is a business element in it so that the antidote for the corona virus is sought after by many people, this is like a film about spreading viruses that can kill and destroy the economy globally. what do you think about this?
if that is indeed true, I think it is truly evil. well, even now this virus already exists in every country and every city. besides, its spread is very fast and makes many people panic. if this is just a business matter, I think this is an evil act. well, they used the discovery to make them rich. but I think, scientists will not do that, and in fact, until now, they are also trying to find an antivirus for it.


Title: Re: a disease or a virus or is there business in it?
Post by: Viscore on April 11, 2020, 09:10:30 AM
Is there any chance that when the corona virus appears, some scientists have discovered the antidote of the virus itself so that there is an element of intention regarding the spread of the corona virus because there is a business element in it so that the antidote for the corona virus is sought after by many people, this is like a film about spreading viruses that can kill and destroy the economy globally. what do you think about this?
if that is indeed true, I think it is truly evil. well, even now this virus already exists in every country and every city. besides, its spread is very fast and makes many people panic. if this is just a business matter, I think this is an evil act. well, they used the discovery to make them rich. but I think, scientists will not do that, and in fact, until now, they are also trying to find an antivirus for it.
This is beyond unforgivable, but this is just an speculation, it's not confirm yet that is a man made.
If this is just a man made then finding a cure for this should not be hard, I think our smart scientist should double time in finding the cure.
It's been over a month already that our country implement the lockdown, until now there is no improvement on the situation, people are still getting sick and some dies.


Title: Re: a disease or a virus or is there business in it?
Post by: boyptc on April 11, 2020, 11:20:35 AM
Melinda Gates said that it will take up to 18 months for the scientists to create a vaccine.

--> https://www.businessinsider.com/melinda-gates-coronavirus-interview-vaccine-timeline-2020-4


Title: Re: a disease or a virus or is there business in it?
Post by: bitcoinst on April 11, 2020, 02:07:27 PM
As far as I know, vaccine testing alone will occur for at least a year. In addition, according to information available on the Internet,
the creation of a vaccine is an extremely time-consuming process because the virus itself constantly mutates, new strains appear against which a new vaccine is needed.



Title: Re: a disease or a virus or is there business in it?
Post by: coolcoinz on April 11, 2020, 04:24:32 PM
As far as I know, vaccine testing alone will occur for at least a year. In addition, according to information available on the Internet,
the creation of a vaccine is an extremely time-consuming process because the virus itself constantly mutates, new strains appear against which a new vaccine is needed.



By that time the whole would will already be infected or imune. It's estimated that almost half of the infected pass this just like a normal cold or flu, with just minor symptoms like a temporary loss of smell and taste, fever, and so on. It's also estimated that about a third of corona cases have their beginning in hospitals. Even doctors were found spreading it unknowingly, because they did not know they were infected and continued their work.
When you can't avoid it, get ready to take it like a man. 8)


Title: Re: a disease or a virus or is there business in it?
Post by: Kong Hey Pakboy on April 11, 2020, 04:34:18 PM
In my own personal opinion, it will take years before scientists and doctors to create a vaccine and a cure for a virus, that is why there are still a lot of people who are infected in corona virus and it takes a lot of time for a COVID-19 patient to recover. I also think that there is a business behind this virus that the one who created the virus is just waiting for billions of people get infected before he show the cure to offer him billions of dollar.


Title: Re: a disease or a virus or is there business in it?
Post by: Twentyonepaylots on April 11, 2020, 05:02:02 PM
In my own personal opinion, it will take years before scientists and doctors to create a vaccine and a cure for a virus, that is why there are still a lot of people who are infected in corona virus and it takes a lot of time for a COVID-19 patient to recover.
Personal estimate, it would take at least a year to find a vaccine and the only thing we can do for now is to isolate every person under investigation, person under monitoring and covid patient to avoid in contact with others and prevent disease spreading. If we could just take them out of their families then we'll do it. The only thing we have now is the plasma therapy that came from recovered patients, I hope there would be something in there that could possibly unlock the solution for the cure.

I also think that there is a business behind this virus that the one who created the virus is just waiting for billions of people get infected before he show the cure to offer him billions of dollar.
hmmm not really, because if I were the government I would only buy a single vaccine, study and mass produce it. Government would not be too dumb for this.


Title: Re: a disease or a virus or is there business in it?
Post by: fabiorem on April 11, 2020, 05:42:39 PM
https://www.vigiliae.org/
https://medicaltyranny.com/

You are only stupid if you want to be. DYOR.


Title: Re: a disease or a virus or is there business in it?
Post by: aakashsangwan on April 12, 2020, 06:12:57 PM
Is there any chance that when the corona virus appears, some scientists have discovered the antidote of the virus itself so that there is an element of intention regarding the spread of the corona virus because there is a business element in it so that the antidote for the corona virus is sought after by many people, this is like a film about spreading viruses that can kill and destroy the economy globally. what do you think about this?
Many speculators also say that the Corona virus was a bioweapon that was being made in Wuhan but was somehow leaked due some reasons. But who are we to say.
Even in this situation, there isn't any vaccine available till now and those which are being developed are far off from being sent for human trials, for some vaccines it is being assumed that the human trials may begin by the end of this year.


Title: Re: a disease or a virus or is there business in it?
Post by: Averim on April 12, 2020, 06:25:20 PM
Is there any chance that when the corona virus appears, some scientists have discovered the antidote of the virus itself so that there is an element of intention regarding the spread of the corona virus because there is a business element in it so that the antidote for the corona virus is sought after by many people, this is like a film about spreading viruses that can kill and destroy the economy globally. what do you think about this?
The pharma industry is the biggest in the world and it's in their interest to have ill people in need for treatment but in the case of covid there is something else, this is a sanitary and humanitarian crisis and if someone would hide a vaccine that could prevent the death of so many people probably that person or group would have a lot of problems, ethical and legal.


Title: Re: a disease or a virus or is there business in it?
Post by: pixie85 on April 12, 2020, 09:16:29 PM
In my own personal opinion, it will take years before scientists and doctors to create a vaccine and a cure for a virus, that is why there are still a lot of people who are infected in corona virus and it takes a lot of time for a COVID-19 patient to recover. I also think that there is a business behind this virus that the one who created the virus is just waiting for billions of people get infected before he show the cure to offer him billions of dollar.

There will be no need for a cure at that point.

At this rate people whole world will have to get through it like they do with smallpox.

Half of the infected get through it without any symptoms so you won't even know when it's over ;)


Title: Re: a disease or a virus or is there business in it?
Post by: Botnake on April 12, 2020, 10:23:18 PM
I also think that there is a business behind this virus that the one who created the virus is just waiting for billions of people get infected before he show the cure to offer him billions of dollar.
Billions of people? you have now idea what will happen to the world if billion of people will be infected, you are almost saying that everyone will be infected.
per report : https://ideas.repec.org/p/fpr/2020br/5.html

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The world's population, today numbering some 5.5 billion people, may approach 12 billion by the end of the next century.

your estimate is so high, if our government are so incompetent, they won't be able to find the cure and this worse case scenario would happen, but I doubt it.


Title: Re: a disease or a virus or is there business in it?
Post by: Genemind on April 13, 2020, 12:49:05 AM
A part of my mind says it's possible. In our country, there's a doctor who has an anti-viral vaccine here which could also cure Covid-19. The government only wants to get the details about the vaccine but they didn't honor and approve it because the doctor doesn't want to sell it because they might only sell it at an unaffordable cost under the government's name. We can't deny the fact that they're focusing their concern on their own motives more than the health of the community.


Title: Re: a disease or a virus or is there business in it?
Post by: matchi2011 on April 13, 2020, 01:31:10 AM
Is there any chance that when the corona virus appears, some scientists have discovered the antidote of the virus itself so that there is an element of intention regarding the spread of the corona virus because there is a business element in it so that the antidote for the corona virus is sought after by many people, this is like a film about spreading viruses that can kill and destroy the economy globally. what do you think about this?
The pharma industry is the biggest in the world and it's in their interest to have ill people in need for treatment but in the case of covid there is something else, this is a sanitary and humanitarian crisis and if someone would hide a vaccine that could prevent the death of so many people probably that person or group would have a lot of problems, ethical and legal.
This people who already have  knowledge in regards of curing other people should be liable if they are holding / hiding this vaccine. Compassion to human needs to be in place in order to survive from this virus, any available antidote to contained or to suppress the spread is really needed to be available from the national market, WHO needs to step up and hurry this solution there are lots of people who already died and still counting for those who are in risk of suffering the same fate.


Title: Re: a disease or a virus or is there business in it?
Post by: JoMarrah Iarim Dan on April 13, 2020, 02:25:35 PM
Is there any chance that when the corona virus appears, some scientists have discovered the antidote of the virus itself so that there is an element of intention regarding the spread of the corona virus because there is a business element in it so that the antidote for the corona virus is sought after by many people, this is like a film about spreading viruses that can kill and destroy the economy globally. what do you think about this?

Business? There are rumors that corona virus is a weapon of a certain country against the country they can't beat. I really do not wanna be involve about this. I just wanna be safe as well as my love ones. There is no vaccine yet although I have read some news regarding they develop a vaccine through a banana or anti bodies but up to now there are lot of positive cases and deaths around the world. It is hard to predict when this will really end. But whatever it is, just help the community to stop it from spreading.


Title: Re: a disease or a virus or is there business in it?
Post by: Sanugarid on April 13, 2020, 04:03:17 PM
Is there any chance that when the corona virus appears, some scientists have discovered the antidote of the virus itself so that there is an element of intention regarding the spread of the corona virus because there is a business element in it so that the antidote for the corona virus is sought after by many people, this is like a film about spreading viruses that can kill and destroy the economy globally. what do you think about this?

Business? There are rumors that corona virus is a weapon of a certain country against the country they can't beat. I really do not wanna be involve about this. I just wanna be safe as well as my love ones. There is no vaccine yet although I have read some news regarding they develop a vaccine through a banana or anti bodies but up to now there are lot of positive cases and deaths around the world. It is hard to predict when this will really end. But whatever it is, just help the community to stop it from spreading.
Well the business they are talking about is the possibility of any business in relate with the corona virus like the antidote, because we're pretty sure that the vaccine would costs a lot for intellectual matter that's it. Business will be business man even the world is ending there will be a sure business for any one. What matter the cost of the vaccine, I hope we get it the right time and not when there is another virus.


Title: Re: a disease or a virus or is there business in it?
Post by: NavI_027 on April 13, 2020, 04:49:26 PM
Well the business they are talking about is the possibility of any business in relate with the corona virus like the antidote, because we're pretty sure that the vaccine would costs a lot for intellectual matter that's it. Business will be business man even the world is ending there will be a sure business for any one. What matter the cost of the vaccine, I hope we get it the right time and not when there is another virus.
Some rumors say that Corona virus originally came from the laboratory and didn't occur in nature, it was a secret weapon of China before conducting WW3 and now some of you think it was all for business? ^sigh what are the other conspiracies you think of? :-\ This things are not helping to ease the burden we all feel, it worsen instead. Though they are not proven, but still the crowd will be affected psychologically. These ideas will surely make some of us especially the weak hearted to feel more anxiety and overthink.

Well, I admit that your presumptions are feasible but who would even do such thing? I think only the devil could do such sinful act. 


Title: Re: a disease or a virus or is there business in it?
Post by: Chrystora123 on April 13, 2020, 05:51:17 PM
Is there any chance that when the corona virus appears, some scientists have discovered the antidote of the virus itself so that there is an element of intention regarding the spread of the corona virus because there is a business element in it so that the antidote for the corona virus is sought after by many people, this is like a film about spreading viruses that can kill and destroy the economy globally. what do you think about this?
You can see in this topic that I made (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5236163.msg54113731#msg54113731) that COVID-19 is not a human creation, but researchers already suspect this virus will become an epidemic in the future.  Dany Shoham was the one who spread the issue that COVID-19 came from the wuhan's laboratory;
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"Certain laboratories at this institute may be involved in the research and development of biological weapons in China. At least as a complement, but not as a main facility in the alignment of biological weapons,"
and this has been proven untrue



Title: Re: a disease or a virus or is there business in it?
Post by: coinfinger on April 13, 2020, 08:02:02 PM
Is there any chance that when the corona virus appears, some scientists have discovered the antidote of the virus itself so that there is an element of intention regarding the spread of the corona virus because there is a business element in it so that the antidote for the corona virus is sought after by many people, this is like a film about spreading viruses that can kill and destroy the economy globally. what do you think about this?
Well, I also used to have this same thought about this Coronavirus outbreak, I once thought that this were some group of people that came together and created the virus and also created the cure, and then released the virus to spread out so that they can use it to make money. But at this time I no longer think like that.

Right now, I think that the virus just popped out from nowhere and was not released by anyone. Apart from this, I have also seen other conspiracy theories concerning this Covid-19, but I’m not going to believe any of them any longer. Like I said, I just see it now as a virus that came out from nowhere.


Title: Re: a disease or a virus or is there business in it?
Post by: xSkylarx on April 16, 2020, 09:06:48 PM
Is there any chance that when the corona virus appears, some scientists have discovered the antidote of the virus itself so that there is an element of intention regarding the spread of the corona virus because there is a business element in it so that the antidote for the corona virus is sought after by many people, this is like a film about spreading viruses that can kill and destroy the economy globally. what do you think about this?

The US is actually investigating this theory and presumption but in case it isn't true, I'm sure that huge pharmaceutical companies would still take advantage of it. It's an opportunity for them to earn a lot of money from most countries who are infected by the virus. We all know that they're more concerned about the money more than the health of a lot of people. That's the reason why our country is now preparing a huge fund for the vaccine and cure in the future.   


Title: Re: a disease or a virus or is there business in it?
Post by: Lorence.xD on April 17, 2020, 02:29:09 AM
I assume that you are under the impression that the vaccine will be used for exploitation of people but I disagree with that, if there is an antidote that will be formulated by the scientist, I think they would rather choose to give it to people for free because pharmaceutical research and scientists working in the laboratory are backed by the government and that will be reason that the antidote or vaccine will be free or if any charges will be issue then I hope that any commoner can afford it. This virus looks like an opportunity for many people but if you think about it, that is a good thing because most oppurtunity that will arise is medcal research and medical technology innovations, for investors too, I can't stress this enough, right now is a good time to buy stocks and this will be a good oppurtunity for investors to try risking an investment in pharmaceutical companies because there will surely be a hype after this crisis is over.


Title: Re: a disease or a virus or is there business in it?
Post by: Serco on April 17, 2020, 03:17:10 AM
we hope it just a diseases, no one make this virus for business only.  its real cruel if big company or maybe pharmacy company create it for their own business by creating the vacine. but from this disease we could take alot lesson and experience. people be more cleaner than previous , they start cleaning their hand regularly when go out.


Title: Re: a disease or a virus or is there business in it?
Post by: Subbir on April 17, 2020, 03:25:32 AM
I accept as true with you that if it were a business then nobody would be ready to maintain such a lot cleanliness for his or her own safety The business thinks everyone made money. it's a disease that has shaken the entire world as a threat to everything most are now wondering the way to survive the crisis i can not consider doing business with this disease or virus.


Title: Re: a disease or a virus or is there business in it?
Post by: BuNga_cute on April 17, 2020, 05:00:29 AM
Although I do not like accusing without evidence, I must admit the possibility of spreading the corona virus as a biological
weapon might happen, which destroys the world economy. Some large countries destroyed his economy, this can be a good
business opportunity. If there are those who succeed in having a corona virus antidote. But this is just my assumption, which
is not necessarily the truth. Because I do not have evidence related to my opinion.


Title: Re: a disease or a virus or is there business in it?
Post by: TitanGEL on April 17, 2020, 10:39:10 AM
Is there any chance that when the corona virus appears, some scientists have discovered the antidote of the virus itself so that there is an element of intention regarding the spread of the corona virus because there is a business element in it so that the antidote for the corona virus is sought after by many people, this is like a film about spreading viruses that can kill and destroy the economy globally. what do you think about this?
This is a fairly reasonable conspiracy theory. I do not mean to say that the Chinese government is cruel, but there have been many articles about this economic virus. After the US cracked down on import and export duties, it is likely that China must create this economic virus to punish them. because in America they don't have the culture of wearing masks, as well as being very subjective about the epidemic this time. That is why this corona virus specifically affects such economies. It seems that they have succeeded in making the whole European economy hard while they have very good control of this disease. Let's discuss this conspiracy theory, I really want to hear about many other ideas.
Of course there are some companies where they see this kind of crisis in order to earn more profit like manufacturing companies. If there will be a vaccine that will be invented, for sure that it is a billion dollar industry. Those manufacturing companies of PPEs and masks are also have now a lot of profit because of the demand of their products. There are really a lot of theory where they say that the Chinese really developed the virus to governed the whole world. The economy is now start collapsing and many countries are affected even the most powerful countries like US.


Title: Re: a disease or a virus or is there business in it?
Post by: Ibizugbe1 on April 18, 2020, 12:52:59 AM
It will be wickedness for the Pharmacy to have the anti-dote and not announce this when thousands are daily dying and economy of nations are been crippled. Such company will be sanctioned. Everywhere and people is stressed already so no dark deals will be welcome with kid gloves.


Title: Re: a disease or a virus or is there business in it?
Post by: abhiseshakana on April 18, 2020, 02:34:04 PM
This is a fairly reasonable conspiracy theory. I do not mean to say that the Chinese government is cruel, but there have been many articles about this economic virus. After the US cracked down on import and export duties, it is likely that China must create this economic virus to punish them. because in America they don't have the culture of wearing masks, as well as being very subjective about the epidemic this time. That is why this corona virus specifically affects such economies. It seems that they have succeeded in making the whole European economy hard while they have very good control of this disease. Let's discuss this conspiracy theory, I really want to hear about many other ideas.

In my opinion, all the big players take advantage of this momentum to make profits from big countries, the IMF & world banks, WHO and the global elite. Although the director of the covid pandemic series 19 is the most benefited from the pandemic which incidentally despite its massive spread is not deadly.

The Covid-19 pandemic is part of a broader macro-economic agenda. The existence of covid-19, the IMF does not need to negotiate a structural adjustment loan with the national government but automatically there is a global adjustment in the structure of the world economy. In one change the Global Adjustment (GA) triggered the process of bankruptcy, unemployment, poverty throughout the world. Lockdown's instructions are campaigned by WHO to governments in many countries as the only solution to resolve the COVID-19 pandemic. Thus, the government concerned is held hostage in it and turns the pandemic into political consensus, regardless of the devastating economic and social consequences. Strong financial institutions and lobby groups including Wall Street, Big Pharma, the World Economic Forum (WEF) and the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation were involved in forming WHO guidelines. The more the IMF lends, the easier it is to pressure developing countries into political compliance.

The political constellation of the United States ahead of the elections also dragged the world into a state of vulnerable, uncertain, complex and full ambiguity by design. The competition between democrats and republics also brought global elites in the field of pharmacy to consolidate to restore the victory of the democrat party when during the Obama period brought Obama care which brought the coffers of wealth to the world of health. The presence of covid-19 before the election in America also raises suspicion of the role of the global elite in the pharmaceutical field.

China, which claims to have found a drug and 2 vaccines for corona that have passed 2 stages of clinical trials and are ready to be produced, will also benefit from the global corona pandemic.


Title: Re: a disease or a virus or is there business in it?
Post by: BitSat19 on April 18, 2020, 04:04:21 PM
Although I do not like accusing without evidence, I must admit the possibility of spreading the corona virus as a biological
weapon might happen, which destroys the world economy. Some large countries destroyed his economy, this can be a good
business opportunity. If there are those who succeed in having a corona virus antidote. But this is just my assumption, which
is not necessarily the truth. Because I do not have evidence related to my opinion.
Right now no one can give 100% about this issue but in near future we will have all evidence about what is this and how this happen I personally believe its biological weapon which is created for destroying few countries economy and bringing down world economy for help of some big whales but right now no solid proof about this because these all are rumours and just fiction things.


Title: Re: a disease or a virus or is there business in it?
Post by: super bako on April 18, 2020, 04:37:39 PM
Although I do not like accusing without evidence, I must admit the possibility of spreading the corona virus as a biological
weapon might happen, which destroys the world economy. Some large countries destroyed his economy, this can be a good
business opportunity. If there are those who succeed in having a corona virus antidote. But this is just my assumption, which
is not necessarily the truth. Because I do not have evidence related to my opinion.
Right now no one can give 100% about this issue but in near future we will have all evidence about what is this and how this happen I personally believe its biological weapon which is created for destroying few countries economy and bringing down world economy for help of some big whales but right now no solid proof about this because these all are rumours and just fiction things.
understanding of thoughts like this is very common, The creation of business opportunities
Many global industrial or business supply chains depend on China, and with the issue of the distribution of co-19 the supply chain is disrupted. So this has forced industry and business leaders to prepare alternative plans for the sustainability of business continuity, if something like this happens again in the future.
This clearly opens business opportunities for other countries, to offer solutions to disruptions in the supply chain


Title: Re: a disease or a virus or is there business in it?
Post by: jostorres on April 18, 2020, 07:10:15 PM
How about we just forget about all these conspiracy theories and focus more on what should be the solution to the pandemic problem the world is having? I have seen a lot of this theory that China planned this Coronavirus. And I have also seen people that said it was a weapon that was created in China to be used in a war and then mistakenly it slipped from their hands and was used against them lol.

I have just seen a lot of these and it's starting to be quite annoying. Even right now , China just had new cases that are popping up. So right now we all should be focused on settling the issue and not worrying about where it came from. When all that is over, we can then talk about this.


Title: Re: a disease or a virus or is there business in it?
Post by: TheGreatPython on April 18, 2020, 07:28:49 PM
Fortunately for us, many nations have managed to nationalize the masks industry, they are of course giving them some money but they are not allowing them to make it like x10 what it used to be and forcing them to continue manufacturing or they will get a punishment for it (money penalty of course) and governments are buying all of it, so basically those companies are still making a ton of profit, way more than what they used to, just not as much as they could with putting the prices on 10x and still being able to sell during this period.

Not all governments are doing it, yet some of them do it and they are definitely doing the right thing because people really do need those masks and companies can't be just taken over neither, this is a good middle ground for everyone.


Title: Re: a disease or a virus or is there business in it?
Post by: Pamadar on April 18, 2020, 07:36:58 PM
How about we just forget about all these conspiracy theories and focus more on what should be the solution to the pandemic problem the world is having? I have seen a lot of this theory that China planned this Coronavirus. And I have also seen people that said it was a weapon that was created in China to be used in a war and then mistakenly it slipped from their hands and was used against them lol.

I have just seen a lot of these and it's starting to be quite annoying. Even right now , China just had new cases that are popping up. So right now we all should be focused on settling the issue and not worrying about where it came from. When all that is over, we can then talk about this.
Much better for all the leaders to discuss about that theory after this pandemic problem. If there's a vaccine to heal this virus it will be much easier to plan your next moves for the sake of your country. Stop focusing with another problem instead start finding the solution one at the time, with good intentions to help healing those people who are affected right now and not to risk another problem to create.


Title: Re: a disease or a virus or is there business in it?
Post by: iv4n on April 19, 2020, 06:29:11 AM
How about we just forget about all these conspiracy theories and focus more on what should be the solution to the pandemic problem the world is having? I have seen a lot of this theory that China planned this Coronavirus. And I have also seen people that said it was a weapon that was created in China to be used in a war and then mistakenly it slipped from their hands and was used against them lol.

I have just seen a lot of these and it's starting to be quite annoying. Even right now , China just had new cases that are popping up. So right now we all should be focused on settling the issue and not worrying about where it came from. When all that is over, we can then talk about this.

People would like to forget all theories, but someone doesn't let that to happen! Orwell explained why governments are doing exactly that, attacking and then defending, and attacking and then makes friendships again.. and like that in circles. They are confusing people with so many theories, actions without any sense and meaning, and all that to keep masses quiet!
I am sick from theories too, from watching how people point fingers, and believe me that the only way for all of us to get out from their hands is blockchain! Decentralized governance, where people will care about people. We need to remove governments from the picture if we wish better future!


Title: Re: a disease or a virus or is there business in it?
Post by: Republikcoin.com on April 20, 2020, 08:58:51 AM
How about we just forget about all these conspiracy theories and focus more on what should be the solution to the pandemic problem the world is having? I have seen a lot of this theory that China planned this Coronavirus. And I have also seen people that said it was a weapon that was created in China to be used in a war and then mistakenly it slipped from their hands and was used against them lol.

I have just seen a lot of these and it's starting to be quite annoying. Even right now , China just had new cases that are popping up. So right now we all should be focused on settling the issue and not worrying about where it came from. When all that is over, we can then talk about this.
there is always a conspiracy in every event. however, I decided to see this as a disaster, and purely because it was hard to find a cure. actually, the cure has also been found. although not very effective, but has been proven to cure many patients. however, what is dangerous about this virus is the way it is spread, so the government has difficulty stopping it. in terms of business, I think many people who use prices such as hand sanitizers, or face mask masks.


Title: Re: a disease or a virus or is there business in it?
Post by: poodle63 on April 20, 2020, 09:41:39 AM
Although I do not like accusing without evidence, I must admit the possibility of spreading the corona virus as a biological
weapon might happen, which destroys the world economy. Some large countries destroyed his economy, this can be a good
business opportunity. If there are those who succeed in having a corona virus antidote. But this is just my assumption, which
is not necessarily the truth. Because I do not have evidence related to my opinion.
There's always possibility but big chance it might be just coincidental if it's indeed a bio weapon which theories I'm not really have faith in. The so vaccine is already invented but undergo careful testing to make sure that it's effective and doesn't have any side effect. If all the people across the countries more specifically the developed countries with powerful miltary themselves are trying hard to find the vaccine as soon as possible I think the theory mentioned by OP is simply baseless.


Title: Re: a disease or a virus or is there business in it?
Post by: MCobian on April 20, 2020, 11:07:48 AM
If you look at the development of the corona virus today, this possibility is purely a virus that was created naturally. Not a human creation like many
people accuse. The proof is that all countries work together to make a vaccine, finally a strong candidate for a vaccine for the corona virus appears,
the name of the vaccine is remdesivir.Previously successful as a vaccine for the Ebola virus. Now remdesivir is still in the testing phase, I hope
remdesivir can succeed. So the spread of the corona virus can be stopped.


Title: Re: a disease or a virus or is there business in it?
Post by: b1k4ng on April 20, 2020, 01:51:58 PM
in my country many are talking about if the virus is a creation of humans, America and China
but I don't believe that because I still haven't found the proof. but if this is indeed a human creation there will definitely be a country that benefits (making a vaccine). As we can see there is no single country that is profitable so in my opinion this is not a human creation


Title: Re: a disease or a virus or is there business in it?
Post by: milewilda on April 20, 2020, 02:33:35 PM
Although I do not like accusing without evidence, I must admit the possibility of spreading the corona virus as a biological
weapon might happen, which destroys the world economy. Some large countries destroyed his economy, this can be a good
business opportunity. If there are those who succeed in having a corona virus antidote. But this is just my assumption, which
is not necessarily the truth. Because I do not have evidence related to my opinion.
There's always possibility but big chance it might be just coincidental if it's indeed a bio weapon which theories I'm not really have faith in. The so vaccine is already invented but undergo careful testing to make sure that it's effective and doesn't have any side effect. If all the people across the countries more specifically the developed countries with powerful miltary themselves are trying hard to find the vaccine as soon as possible I think the theory mentioned by OP is simply baseless.
Its normal for people to have these kind of conspiracy ideas specially if you can really see some possible situations that can connect out this kind of scenario.
True or not then theres nothing we can do yet it do need sufficient proofs before on making any action but for now all we do need is on when those who are on medical
group would able top create the vaccine.We do need it asap because if this situation would take more longer then i cant imagine on what would happen to people around the globe.


Title: Re: a disease or a virus or is there business in it?
Post by: Kez1817 on April 20, 2020, 03:49:09 PM
Is there any chance that when the corona virus appears, some scientists have discovered the antidote of the virus itself so that there is an element of intention regarding the spread of the corona virus because there is a business element in it so that the antidote for the corona virus is sought after by many people, this is like a film about spreading viruses that can kill and destroy the economy globally. what do you think about this?

If this is really a plan to have a pandemic crisis so that they benefit from the vaccines maybe you have a point. But on the other side,they should not take advantage to the vaccine and make it a business for their own sake because it is against the law. If they found a medicine or cure for this virus,they will make money from it but not to much.


Title: Re: a disease or a virus or is there business in it?
Post by: TIDOVEE on April 20, 2020, 03:56:50 PM
Of course CORONA virus is real, I don't know if the antidote has been discovered, although, I don't really trust many report again of recent. I'm also suspecting the scientist especially in China must have seen the cure, because they have eliminated it from their country. Yet, I think many countries are making business out of it. Because some government keep collecting and borrowing here and there without analysis again.


Title: Re: a disease or a virus or is there business in it?
Post by: super bako on April 20, 2020, 06:20:48 PM
Of course CORONA virus is real, I don't know if the antidote has been discovered, although, I don't really trust many report again of recent. I'm also suspecting the scientist especially in China must have seen the cure, because they have eliminated it from their country. Yet, I think many countries are making business out of it. Because some government keep collecting and borrowing here and there without analysis again.
yes even though it is real coron virus but it is still in search and mystery of where all these sources have a global impact simultaneously. and of course you will find the cure or disappear the corona virus yourself. From your question, maybe this could very well be a business that is still in the process of developing this biological virus. there is a country that has a nuclear warfare tool such as in covid-19 which is very dangerous in the world as a tool of state warfare. you can look for it in online media about the nuclear warfare tool


Title: Re: a disease or a virus or is there business in it?
Post by: Ril2teach on April 20, 2020, 06:48:03 PM
From what I know a pandemic such as this one cannot be monetize by pharmaceutical businesses if they find an antidote. That would violate a lot of international laws which a lot of countries already agreed and the company's CEO might be charged such as crimes against humanity. If they found a cure the best thing the company will get is either a subsidy for their research as well as some compensation for their efforts, they might profit a little but they won't be billionaires because of it as they cannot make this antidote/cure exclusive to the rich, this cure will be everyone's right to receive.

There's always a way to monetize a situation and manage to circumvent the law. WHO said covid19 couldn't be transmitted person-to-person at the beggining of this (protecting china with their new year coming and million dollars in the game from tourism) nowyou see how that end. Then WHO updated their info and actually the virus did spread person-to-person all over the world. Will be santioned? There are proof of a partnership with chinese government? It's not sure right now.


You're right about the cure, even when we talk about a vaccine now more than a cure, but the fact is that this situation can be profitable in many ways without being proved as an illegal deal and without even having a vaccine in sigh yet.



Title: Re: a disease or a virus or is there business in it?
Post by: alevlaslo on April 20, 2020, 10:04:14 PM
the purpose of the virus:
1) to reduce the world's population, so it is safe for children
2) divert attention from the failure in the economy and write off this failure as a virus
3) to distract attention from the introduction of harmful 5G


Title: Re: a disease or a virus or is there business in it?
Post by: Viscore on April 20, 2020, 11:08:52 PM
the purpose of the virus:
1) to reduce the world's population, so it is safe for children
How can it be safe for Children when the virus does not choose who it will infect, and if you are saying on the future of the children, I don't think its the people who should be blame here, it should be the government for not enforcing proper law to protect its people.

2) divert attention from the failure in the economy and write off this failure as a virus
This could be true especially if the government is corrupt, I think this is done by big countries if its true that the virus is a man made.

3) to distract attention from the introduction of harmful 5G
I'm seen rumors about it but I'm not so convince.


Title: Re: a disease or a virus or is there business in it?
Post by: Subbir on April 21, 2020, 03:44:40 AM
Of course CORONA virus is real, I don't know if the antidote has been discovered, although, I don't really trust many report again of recent. I'm also suspecting the scientist especially in China must have seen the cure, because they have eliminated it from their country. Yet, I think many countries are making business out of it. Because some government keep collecting and borrowing here and there without analysis again.
yes even though it is real coron virus but it is still in search and mystery of where all these sources have a global impact simultaneously. and of course you will find the cure or disappear the corona virus yourself. From your question, maybe this could very well be a business that is still in the process of developing this biological virus. there is a country that has a nuclear warfare tool such as in covid-19 which is very dangerous in the world as a tool of state warfare. you can look for it in online media about the nuclear warfare tool

It will not play any role within the war We all know that the coronavirus isn't really a business It could have became a business if it had been confined to at least one place but it's spread everywhere the planet. many people are dying and there's no cure therein case this is often a battlefield.


Title: Re: a disease or a virus or is there business in it?
Post by: Naida_BR on April 21, 2020, 06:33:12 AM
Is there any chance that when the corona virus appears, some scientists have discovered the antidote of the virus itself so that there is an element of intention regarding the spread of the corona virus because there is a business element in it so that the antidote for the corona virus is sought after by many people, this is like a film about spreading viruses that can kill and destroy the economy globally. what do you think about this?

If scientists have already found the antitode then it would be very stupid from their side not to give it to the public.
There is an extremely demand for this coronavirus antidote right now and they can make a lot of money by that.


Title: Re: a disease or a virus or is there business in it?
Post by: Botnake on April 21, 2020, 06:36:23 AM
Is there any chance that when the corona virus appears, some scientists have discovered the antidote of the virus itself so that there is an element of intention regarding the spread of the corona virus because there is a business element in it so that the antidote for the corona virus is sought after by many people, this is like a film about spreading viruses that can kill and destroy the economy globally. what do you think about this?

If scientists have already found the antitode then it would be very stupid from their side not to give it to the public.
There is an extremely demand for this coronavirus antidote right now and they can make a lot of money by that.

That's a crime if they will not distribute it, mostly are funded by government so it should be the interest of the government that has to be followed here.
While there is no cure yet, the economy will continue to struggle, maybe some industry will grow but the overall effect of the economy is really bad, so it's the interest of the government that the vaccine will be release the soonest so the economy will start to recover again.


Title: Re: a disease or a virus or is there business in it?
Post by: Btc_1856 on April 21, 2020, 07:09:38 AM
Is there any chance that when the corona virus appears, some scientists have discovered the antidote of the virus itself so that there is an element of intention regarding the spread of the corona virus because there is a business element in it so that the antidote for the corona virus is sought after by many people, this is like a film about spreading viruses that can kill and destroy the economy globally. what do you think about this?

If scientists have already found the antitode then it would be very stupid from their side not to give it to the public.
There is an extremely demand for this coronavirus antidote right now and they can make a lot of money by that.

Still, there is no direct medicine for this Virus, who has already announced it will take more than 18 months to get the vaccine for this Virus. This Virus is spreading very quickly, which nobody didn't expect it, even China has guided the WHO, in order to recover from the Virus it will take lots of time for the countries.


Title: Re: a disease or a virus or is there business in it?
Post by: super bako on April 21, 2020, 01:22:14 PM
Is there any chance that when the corona virus appears, some scientists have discovered the antidote of the virus itself so that there is an element of intention regarding the spread of the corona virus because there is a business element in it so that the antidote for the corona virus is sought after by many people, this is like a film about spreading viruses that can kill and destroy the economy globally. what do you think about this?

If scientists have already found the antitode then it would be very stupid from their side not to give it to the public.
There is an extremely demand for this coronavirus antidote right now and they can make a lot of money by that.

Still, there is no direct medicine for this Virus, who has already announced it will take more than 18 months to get the vaccine for this Virus. This Virus is spreading very quickly, which nobody didn't expect it, even China has guided the WHO, in order to recover from the Virus it will take lots of time for the countries.

your idea is too excessive. and it's not necessarily looking for a covid-19 cure for up to 18 months to make, well it could happen, but over time it will not be long to find a cure because in urging like this for example 3 months, we imagine what later if the drug can be found to reach 18 months during that time. Maybe the inhabitants of the earth live a little and destroyed in the country's economy. because it does not have storage of all the needs of people and the country. Well we can trust the news but have to use logic going forward.


Title: Re: a disease or a virus or is there business in it?
Post by: wiss19 on April 28, 2020, 07:05:04 PM
Is there any chance that when the corona virus appears, some scientists have discovered the antidote of the virus itself so that there is an element of intention regarding the spread of the corona virus because there is a business element in it so that the antidote for the corona virus is sought after by many people, this is like a film about spreading viruses that can kill and destroy the economy globally. what do you think about this?
If there is any cure for it as of now, I am guessing that it will be in China, since that’s where it started and they must have been up to some research on how to find a cure. And judging from a few things that has happened there, like their president visiting Wuhan and just wearing a mask, it seemed like he wasn’t afraid of the outbreak.

Anyway, it’s too early judge them, but as time goes on everything will likely be exposed to the world. For now, there is no cure and scientists working towards that. The only thing is the vaccine that they said is going to take up to twelve or eighteen months to be ready. From my research, the vaccine will help to cure the symptoms of the virus.


Title: Re: a disease or a virus or is there business in it?
Post by: Averim on April 29, 2020, 06:41:55 PM
Is there any chance that when the corona virus appears, some scientists have discovered the antidote of the virus itself so that there is an element of intention regarding the spread of the corona virus because there is a business element in it so that the antidote for the corona virus is sought after by many people, this is like a film about spreading viruses that can kill and destroy the economy globally. what do you think about this?
This days everything is possible, as we already seen the russian misinform and fake news are present even in the most developed countries, but on the other hand when somebody is ill there is profit for the doctor, there could be something with this virus, only time will tell.


Title: Re: a disease or a virus or is there business in it?
Post by: Snappycoco on April 30, 2020, 07:58:29 AM
I do believe that this virus has something to do with trade war between US and China. It is quite clear that this bully nation has an intention to become the most powerful country in terms of economy and soon military. You guys doesn't even know that they already have a vaccine. The chinese are curing their own citizens here in the Philippines and no one talking about it in social media

https://www.pna.gov.ph/articles/1100900
https://cnnphilippines.com/news/2020/4/27/Baclaran-Paranaque-raid-clinic-medicine-COVID-19.html


Title: Re: a disease or a virus or is there business in it?
Post by: Arkann on May 01, 2020, 11:16:34 AM
It seems to me that the plans for which coronavirus was distributed all over the world are more global in nature.  and in order to at least get a little closer to the plausible version, we need to analyze the results that we have today from the coronavirus and isolation of each country, as well as to whom such results can be beneficial.  And you don’t need to take certain countries into account, as the culprits of the problem, but you need to look with wider eyes at global problems around the world and then all the unknowns can become apparent.


Title: Re: a disease or a virus or is there business in it?
Post by: FlightyPouch on May 24, 2020, 11:02:07 AM
Is there any chance that when the corona virus appears, some scientists have discovered the antidote of the virus itself so that there is an element of intention regarding the spread of the corona virus because there is a business element in it so that the antidote for the corona virus is sought after by many people, this is like a film about spreading viruses that can kill and destroy the economy globally. what do you think about this?

If scientists have already found the antitode then it would be very stupid from their side not to give it to the public.
There is an extremely demand for this coronavirus antidote right now and they can make a lot of money by that.

Well, that is the theory. It is even told me that the virus actually came from a lab in China, we don't know the truth though but all we know is that people are dying, people are struggling the same with the countries that they are in and if that is actually true, it is a just those movie shit we are wathcing.


Title: Re: a disease or a virus or is there business in it?
Post by: josephsonand on May 24, 2020, 11:31:01 AM
I will answer briefly. The virus is made in China (in Wuhan). Elites worked on it, who want to enslave humanity. These elites want to undermine the global economy. Then introduce vaccination and chipping people. They want to introduce discrimination if you give up their dictatorship. But they could not do as they wanted, so now they will act even more cunningly. At the moment, they control all the main mass media and much more from what we use every day. Everything belongs to a few funds and corporations.
There is a solution: do not succumb to provocations, do not stoop to their level, live the truth. They only make things worse for themselves (with their delusions of power, money and other things), the main thing for us is not to do anything bad ourselves.
Listen to your heart and God, live in harmony with yourself and with the people around you. The last war will be within each person, a war with one’s own ignorance and aggression. And only the radical transformation of each individual person can become the beginning of the peaceful life of all people.


Title: Re: a disease or a virus or is there business in it?
Post by: Vishnu.Reang on May 24, 2020, 12:58:14 PM
Is there any chance that when the corona virus appears, some scientists have discovered the antidote of the virus itself so that there is an element of intention regarding the spread of the corona virus because there is a business element in it so that the antidote for the corona virus is sought after by many people, this is like a film about spreading viruses that can kill and destroy the economy globally. what do you think about this?

There are a lot of rumors and conspiracy theories going on regarding the pandemic. None of these have been proven. A few days back, I was watching the TV series "Last Ship", which deals with a global virus outbreak. In that case, a rogue scientist implants a human gene in the virus, to make it more deadly and contagious. But personally, I believe that these are all just rumors and COVID 19 is a natural virus.


Title: Re: a disease or a virus or is there business in it?
Post by: $crypto$ on May 24, 2020, 01:00:13 PM
That's a crime if they will not distribute it, mostly are funded by government so it should be the interest of the government that has to be followed here.
While there is no cure yet, the economy will continue to struggle, maybe some industry will grow but the overall effect of the economy is really bad, so it's the interest of the government that the vaccine will be release the soonest so the economy will start to recover again.
All government rules must be followed because they are the ones in control in dealing with the corona virus. No one can fight except the government, but many people still talk that this is a conspiracy with the interests of the elite.

The economy will continue to struggle because it is the power of the country where they have to get money to fund Covid-19, but what I'm thinking here is whether anyone has found a vaccine for real? all the news is still confusing because there is no real justification about the vaccine for the Covid-19 healer.


Title: Re: a disease or a virus or is there business in it?
Post by: dunfida on May 24, 2020, 07:58:19 PM
Is there any chance that when the corona virus appears, some scientists have discovered the antidote of the virus itself so that there is an element of intention regarding the spread of the corona virus because there is a business element in it so that the antidote for the corona virus is sought after by many people, this is like a film about spreading viruses that can kill and destroy the economy globally. what do you think about this?

Conspiracies flying around is not really that new and if we do try to recall on whats those previous presumptions that China did this in purpose then theres no hard evidence that they did actually do the thing but all are just rumors or still hoax or whatsoever.When it comes to business thing then its just normal
that there would be trade off since someone do able to create the vaccine then its just normal for the creator to monetize on what he had discovered and it will really be on demand since lots is already dying from the virus.IF they do make money then its just right for them to get the prize neither its
intentional or just truly discovered without any intentions.


Title: Re: a disease or a virus or is there business in it?
Post by: princeyeboah on May 25, 2020, 02:37:09 AM
There are lots of speculations about the COVID 19 pandemic. Some of the rumours are to loud that they tarnish the image of some countries and entities believing that they might have a hand in the outbreak. Whatever be the case, no one has strong evidence to prove that so its high time we let go of those misconceptions and focus on how to help bring it under control.


Title: Re: a disease or a virus or is there business in it?
Post by: shushu9977 on May 25, 2020, 03:30:31 AM
There are few countries declared or claimed that the discovered the antidote of covid-19. But I think, no country clarifies that clearly 100%. May be Allah help us and very soon publish the antidote of covid-19.       


Title: Re: a disease or a virus or is there business in it?
Post by: bearexin on May 26, 2020, 05:56:51 AM
There are few countries declared or claimed that the discovered the antidote of covid-19. But I think, no country clarifies that clearly 100%. May be Allah help us and very soon publish the antidote of covid-19.       
I have heard and read a lot of things being said about this Coronavirus and some of them are so dumb. And moreover if this was a business, don't you think there are already lots of cases enough for them to release the cure and make money? Lol.

I have also seen people that claimed that Coronavirus was created and released to decrease the number of people around the world, because the world population is too much. And some have said it was created by the West to destroy a particular continent. And some have said the Chinese government created it because they want to bring down other governments and take over world power. I am already tired of all these things, so I am just going to believe that this is a virus that popped out of nowhere lol.


Title: Re: a disease or a virus or is there business in it?
Post by: PavelMed on May 29, 2020, 05:31:01 PM
I do not think that this virus is the work of man, as well-known politicians and leaders of many countries have been ill with it. No one would dare to “release” this virus, because the virus can infect the one who released it. It’s just that the authorities of many countries used this virus to increase control over citizens.


Title: Re: a disease or a virus or is there business in it?
Post by: Bezobraznike on May 29, 2020, 07:32:47 PM
I do not think that this virus is the work of man, as well-known politicians and leaders of many countries have been ill with it. No one would dare to “release” this virus, because the virus can infect the one who released it. It’s just that the authorities of many countries used this virus to increase control over citizens.

   We will never know, it's what I think. Who knows what is the real truth here, and
some governments are point fingers and make accusations. Conspiracy theories
around the internet make me to think that all this is made by powerful people to
regain control.
    Billionaires around the world made a lot of money during this pandemic. That
means that there was a lot of business from this pandemic. Was it all about
business or not, nobody knows, my opinion is there was more business than virus.


Title: Re: a disease or a virus or is there business in it?
Post by: wozzek23 on May 30, 2020, 01:41:41 PM
Billionaires around the world made a lot of money during this pandemic. That
means that there was a lot of business from this pandemic. Was it all about
business or not, nobody knows, my opinion is there was more business than virus.
This doesn't seem like a business anymore. A lot of people where I live were claiming that Coronavirus is just a business at the initial time. Now people have started living around the threats of corona outbreak; it means those corona pandemic is no more a threat. Just being conscious about not getting infected by the virus is more than enough for them to start leaving their normal life as usual.

Well, now a lot of things have changed and it has gotten really serious and it's no longer something that should be jokes with. I don't think this is any business, maybe it's a virus that broke out from a lab as some would say or it just came from bats and pangolins? I just don't know man. But if this was really a business, those that started it would have start releasing the drugs right now and cashing out since the cases of Coronavirus around the world has grown too big.


Title: Re: a disease or a virus or is there business in it?
Post by: bitbollo on May 30, 2020, 01:48:34 PM
Is there any chance that when the corona virus appears, some scientists have discovered the antidote of the virus itself so that there is an element of intention regarding the spread of the corona virus because there is a business element in it so that the antidote for the corona virus is sought after by many people, this is like a film about spreading viruses that can kill and destroy the economy globally. what do you think about this?

no. creating antiviral drugs it's very hard and expensive, plus requires a lot of time and the effort of hundreds and hundreds of people!
plus they should TEST on a large population before it can be sell out.

Have you ever heard about Sofosbuvir (plus the other molecules that are able to eradicate HCV?)
Before the company has started to sell they should be sure that it works on human (effectiveness)
They should see if this is only a temporary effect. They must evaluate all adverse events (if any).
For doing this you need a lot of time, resources, data, patients, doctors, hospitals etc etc etc.

Thinking we are living in a movie and this is another conspiracy made some mad scientist it's just a crap argumentation.
Despite people have 0 knowledge about peer review process in a scientific paper, or 0 knowledge of pharmacy development, its pure defamation instill certain dismal doubts or making any allusion like a "film".


Title: Re: a disease or a virus or is there business in it?
Post by: shield132 on May 30, 2020, 09:23:33 PM

~snip~

Well, well, well... Don't you know that Pharma is a business? And it's a huge business along with grocery business.
What do you think, are scientists unable to treat cancer, finally reverse tooth decay process and etc? Of course not, logically if they were able to invent steroids and powerful stimulants during world wars in a very short time, then why won't they be able to do it quickly right now? Even a lot of medicines were created between 19-20th century, we are in stuck right now.

See what USA is going, a lot of people are put on antidepressants and on other drugs even from their childhood. What do you think, is it logical and fair? To put a lot of people on meds that have awful withdrawals? Just see how many prescriptions are writing yearly in USA and you'll be amazed. After that, why don't you think that they aren't going to make money from current situation? A lot of money?

N1 one of the largest company by revenue is Walmart, then see what companies are owned by Walmart, then from these companies and the list goes on and on.

Without doubt, our life isn't a science fiction movie but the reality is really different and isn't fairy tale.


Title: Re: a disease or a virus or is there business in it?
Post by: bitbollo on May 30, 2020, 09:34:30 PM
...
we are in stuck right now.
Did you think it's "easy" make a new drug? NO isn't so easy. It's full of scientist so all people are working for "the evil" ?
If it was so easy bring new drugs to market ... there were more drugs on the market... isn't profitable?!?  ::) ::)

...
After that, why don't you think that they aren't going to make money from current situation? A lot of money?

it's pretty clear that you don't know anything about regulations, pharmacology and how a new drug arrive to the market.
This is not a fairy tale, but it's a big error blame an entire industry (including the good aspects since millions of lives are saved each year).
Most of public opinion see just scandals, but there are not only these... I mean if you have a disease you don't go to the sorcerer but in a hospital.
You don't drink magic potions but you take medicine.


Title: Re: a disease or a virus or is there business in it?
Post by: shield132 on May 30, 2020, 10:23:49 PM
...
we are in stuck right now.
Did you think it's "easy" make a new drug? NO isn't so easy. It's full of scientist so all people are working for "the evil" ?
If it was so easy bring new drugs to market ... there were more drugs on the market... isn't profitable?!?  ::) ::)
What about if we establish a new type and call it shadow monopoly? Where you want to enter into the market but current monopoly companies don't give you right to do it? There were a lot of promising adhd medicines but weren't approved (it's easy to have a reason if you want) but instead addictive ones are given away like it's nothing. Cause when you are addicted to something, you crave it finally.

...
After that, why don't you think that they aren't going to make money from current situation? A lot of money?

it's pretty clear that you don't know anything about regulations, pharmacology and how a new drug arrive to the market.
This is not a fairy tale, but it's a big error blame an entire industry (including the good aspects since millions of lives are saved each year).
Most of public opinion see just scandals, but there are not only these... I mean if you have a disease you don't go to the sorcerer but in a hospital.
You don't drink magic potions but you take medicine.
I know a lot about pharmacology and regulations/steps that FDA sets on new drugs to approve them on market. But what happens in reality is that FDA allows unsafe drugs on the market because of pressure from pharmaceutical companies. They approved dangerous tranquillizers and ssris that have very awful withdrawal. Doesn't it sound curious for you that all of these drugs have awful withdrawal but there isn't similar on market that doesn't have withdrawal? Do you know that at some point Soviet Union was working on similar drugs without side effects and some of them succeed?

Nothing to talk about these addictive drugs that are pharma business and a lot of prescriptions come on them (I advice you to check numbers), I also want to remind you that nearly a third of FDA-approved drugs had problems.


Title: Re: a disease or a virus or is there business in it?
Post by: YAPEK on May 30, 2020, 10:45:42 PM
in my opinion the world today is full of madness. there are 3 options on my mind.
1. a trade war between China and America
2. the element of intent, to kill the country's economic system between China and America
3. Before Corona emerged, the two countries were at odds.


Title: Re: a disease or a virus or is there business in it?
Post by: bitbollo on May 31, 2020, 06:43:36 AM
Do you know that at some point Soviet Union was working on similar drugs without side effects and some of them succeed?

Ok it's enough .After the magic drugs from Soviet Union ::) there is a limit to the logic, since even placebo can have side effect...(nocebo effect). It's a complete nonsense, since if it was PROFITABLE and you know despite this is not your field,
why no one in a pharma company is selling out ? isn't profitable?!?  ::) ::)

:( I am sorry but you are just spreading classic lies typical of "conspirators" starting from 1 valid point (drug withdrawn from the market due side effects ...)


Title: Re: a disease or a virus or is there business in it?
Post by: abhiseshakana on May 31, 2020, 03:25:05 PM
1. a trade war between China and America
Or the war between Trump the megalomania Vs Xi the rebel nationalist. The origin of the trade war was because Xi opposed Ronald Reagan's treaty with Deng Xioping. The Trump make America slogan great again is the slogan Ronald Reagan and Trump idolizes Reagan.


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2. the element of intent, to kill the country's economic system between China and America
There are many parties and many agendas in the COVID-19 pandemic. There are State Actors namely China and America and non-state actors namely; WHO, the Global elite believed to be the pharmaceutical elite, Xi Jing Ping, Trump, Republicans, Democrats, and globalist groups.


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3. Before Corona emerged, the two countries were at odds.
Japan colonizes China, America is Japan's partner. Ronald Reagan wanted to democratize China with Western investment in China, but it failed. Hong Kong, which was prepared as a gateway to democracy in China, was apparently communicated by China.


Title: Re: a disease or a virus or is there business in it?
Post by: themohit on May 31, 2020, 05:28:31 PM
There are lots of speculations about the COVID 19 pandemic. Some of the rumours are to loud that they tarnish the image of some countries and entities believing that they might have a hand in the outbreak. Whatever be the case, no one has strong evidence to prove that so its high time we let go of those misconceptions and focus on how to help bring it under control.
I won't ever believe someone made corona on purpose and/or started the outbreak on purpose.
There were people against outbreak, there were opposite. But overall it was an adequate decision after corona came around


Title: Re: a disease or a virus or is there business in it?
Post by: Kasabus on May 31, 2020, 11:44:45 PM
I do not think that this virus is the work of man, as well-known politicians and leaders of many countries have been ill with it. No one would dare to “release” this virus, because the virus can infect the one who released it. It’s just that the authorities of many countries used this virus to increase control over citizens.
What we have at the present is a deadly virus and has already taken thousands of lives so i hope let us stop spreading that this virus is a man made one because it's not really helping at all. I don't think that there are a lot of billionaires making business out of this pandemic as everybody is affected by this. Let us focus in finding a cure or vaccine for corona virus so that we can all live back to normal again.


Title: Re: a disease or a virus or is there business in it?
Post by: Shasha80 on June 01, 2020, 12:01:42 AM
There are a lot of conspiracies related to COVID-19, and based on my investigation this possibility is man-made. There are business interests
behind this incident, speaking of COVID-19 which spread so fast and created an economic crisis throughout the world. Of course there are several
those who benefit, especially those who have the vaccine.


Title: Re: a disease or a virus or is there business in it?
Post by: princeyeboah on June 01, 2020, 03:13:26 AM
There is no proofs backing the claims that most people have about COVID-19 being intentionally created to cause huge damage and in the end produce a vaccine that will be a worldwide demand - thus generated huge profit for the people involved. Such allegation is wild and vague. The best thing to do now is to seize the moment and make the best out of it. Invest in cryptocurrency!


Title: Re: a disease or a virus or is there business in it?
Post by: ancafe on June 01, 2020, 05:51:39 AM
There are a lot of conspiracies related to COVID-19, and based on my investigation this possibility is man-made. There are business interests
behind this incident, speaking of COVID-19 which spread so fast and created an economic crisis throughout the world. Of course there are several
those who benefit, especially those who have the vaccine.
Yes, but this conspiracy is very interesting, a lot of things are hooked up. however, I didn't really follow the development of the conspiracy. it's just that, the real thing is, the spread of this virus is quite easy and fast, so it can't be avoided. besides, the treatment is also still not very clear. as far as I know, it took years to find a drug that worked specifically.


Title: Re: a disease or a virus or is there business in it?
Post by: wojak on June 01, 2020, 06:07:44 AM
Is there any chance that when the corona virus appears, some scientists have discovered the antidote of the virus itself so that there is an element of intention regarding the spread of the corona virus because there is a business element in it so that the antidote for the corona virus is sought after by many people, this is like a film about spreading viruses that can kill and destroy the economy globally. what do you think about this?

not really, virus is real and it is a problem, the panic around it is waaaay too big and artificial, and before there were created any reasonable research and plans to solve situation, big money already started using situation and forced countries to overreact and panic.

example from my country:
- selling mask was prohibited, then it was released when gov related people started to import them and selling
- most virus medicines were either prohibited or a lot news appeared that those are not safe to use (somehow for more than 10 years it was on market and used widely without problems)
- for some reason when social group starts protesting, our government is finding out that tests were wrong and a lot of infections appears among this social group - now for example miners.
- country is preparing help strategies for business that when you actually read small print on it, you will find that it is way to take over those business
and so on.

Virus is real, political and economic situation is artificial and is using virus to force regulations you would never accept without pandemy.


Title: Re: a disease or a virus or is there business in it?
Post by: rodskee on June 01, 2020, 07:21:28 AM
The truth?no one can tell now or even if this ends still there are so many things we need to prove first before getting
 the real answer.This cannot be disease because the
 spread is so fast and cannot be seen the effect but there is many proof that it is a Virus but the question is "are this
 Virus is intentionally spread"?



China is where the place this Virus starts but the problem is why did the effect is much Higher and wilder in other
countries compared to their own people?
i wonder what is the reality behind this pandemic and how come this happens in this bad manner.
The Chinese government must explain this further
when the crisis ends because even if this is not intention yet they have obligation to the
 Victim for the spread IMO.


Title: Re: a disease or a virus or is there business in it?
Post by: peter0425 on June 01, 2020, 12:25:04 PM
Is there any chance that when the corona virus appears, some scientists have discovered the antidote of the virus itself so that there is an element of intention regarding the spread of the corona virus because there is a business element in it so that the antidote for the corona virus is sought after by many people, this is like a film about spreading viruses that can kill and destroy the economy globally. what do you think about this?
It doesn't matter whats behind this Virus,or disease or Business,what we need to find is the cure because life matters here.

Let s stop the issues because people need help and not another shit topic just to have a fancy conversation.


Title: Re: a disease or a virus or is there business in it?
Post by: bitbunnny on June 01, 2020, 12:57:57 PM
So many conspiracy theories about this virus appear all the time. I don't believe in them but the whole insight what was going on we might never get. It's not the solution that countries accuse each others and put the blaim because of pandemic. Common efforts should be made to fight this, that is the only solution to my opinion.
Also, who knows what will happen again in.fall, we need to be prepared but to my opinion another complete lockdown would be a suicide.


Title: Re: a disease or a virus or is there business in it?
Post by: Sanugarid on June 01, 2020, 04:06:11 PM
Is there any chance that when the corona virus appears, some scientists have discovered the antidote of the virus itself so that there is an element of intention regarding the spread of the corona virus because there is a business element in it so that the antidote for the corona virus is sought after by many people, this is like a film about spreading viruses that can kill and destroy the economy globally. what do you think about this?
It doesn't matter whats behind this Virus,or disease or Business,what we need to find is the cure because life matters here.
There has been massive theories and accusation regarding the virus that it was rumored to be created by the Chinese government to take down the world's economy, after that they will sell antidotes globally which will make them ahead on every country which I think is a fool idea. Coz if I were going to cripple the world's economy using a virus I would have brought it to other country and let it spread there, not in my own backyard.

Let s stop the issues because people need help and not another shit topic just to have a fancy conversation.
What we need now is the antidote, if you guys are looking to start a business during these times you can look for something helpful and essential to others. And for those heartless who sells masks, test kits, PPEs, and gloves in double or triple of its retail price, I hope the karma won't hunt you after this dilemma.


Title: Re: a disease or a virus or is there business in it?
Post by: Nazmul012 on June 01, 2020, 04:30:19 PM
disease, i guess. And anyone can't say surely who is responsible behind this disease. All most every country get affected by The Covid-19 & they are still suffering. It's not possible for anyone to planned something like Covid-19 for business purpose when they already know, the terrible effects would going to happended with themselve too?!!


Title: Re: a disease or a virus or is there business in it?
Post by: tabas on June 01, 2020, 05:08:45 PM
disease, i guess. And anyone can't say surely who is responsible behind this disease. All most every country get affected by The Covid-19 & they are still suffering. It's not possible for anyone to planned something like Covid-19 for business purpose when they already know, the terrible effects would going to happended with themselve too?!!
Conspiracy theorists were thinking about this, the virus is man-made and there's already a vaccine and is just waiting to be in the marketplace. I don't want to believe in it and we're in the internet era where we can read such theories that can make us gullible.
It could be real or just a rumor.


Title: Re: a disease or a virus or is there business in it?
Post by: bearexin on June 01, 2020, 08:50:20 PM
Is there any chance that when the corona virus appears, some scientists have discovered the antidote of the virus itself so that there is an element of intention regarding the spread of the corona virus because there is a business element in it so that the antidote for the corona virus is sought after by many people, this is like a film about spreading viruses that can kill and destroy the economy globally. what do you think about this?
It doesn't matter whats behind this Virus,or disease or Business,what we need to find is the cure because life matters here.

Let s stop the issues because people need help and not another shit topic just to have a fancy conversation.
That is what I have been saying to all these tinfoil head people. I do not care how it all started, I do not care if this was man made or not. I just care for the cure. It could be some scheme to be the overlord of humanity all I care, as long as we get a cure. Without the cure, we already lost 300 thousand people.

Do you realize how many people that is? We are talking about 300 thousand people like a statistic but each one of them had a life, had a family, had someone cried after them, people who were worried they got it from them, and many doctors and nurses who tried to keep them alive as well. That is why the important thing right now is to figure out how we could go back to normal, that is even if we can because after all of this, I don't know how normal we could ever get.


Title: Re: a disease or a virus or is there business in it?
Post by: Sirait on June 01, 2020, 11:15:44 PM
right now we are in a time of uncertainty, I am confused about whether the information is right or wrong because the media currently makes every news hot

I feel that this epidemic was deliberately spread for business and political purposes. but back to everyone, because everyone's views are different


Title: Re: a disease or a virus or is there business in it?
Post by: Barbut on June 02, 2020, 04:42:48 AM
right now we are in a time of uncertainty, I am confused about whether the information is right or wrong because the media currently makes every news hot

I feel that this epidemic was deliberately spread for business and political purposes. but back to everyone, because everyone's views are different

In my opinion, political and business purposes are the same, there's no difference between this two. Politicians used this pandemic for their own marketing, rich people got richer, they will pay politicians for next campaigns. Like many others in this topic I think there was more business in this pandemic than anything else, we can just hope that we will find out what really happened one day in the future.


Title: Re: a disease or a virus or is there business in it?
Post by: Gozie51 on June 02, 2020, 01:52:28 PM
right now we are in a time of uncertainty, I am confused about whether the information is right or wrong because the media currently makes every news hot

I feel that this epidemic was deliberately spread for business and political purposes. but back to everyone, because everyone's views are different

Many are beginning to think this way though but the point is we all should keep following the guidelines put out for safety because we really don't know if what is behind it all is even bigger than corona virus. Anyway, it is still nice to know that lockdown are beginning to go off gradually.


Title: Re: a disease or a virus or is there business in it?
Post by: Guryon_master on June 02, 2020, 05:22:17 PM
Is there any chance that when the corona virus appears, some scientists have discovered the antidote of the virus itself so that there is an element of intention regarding the spread of the corona virus because there is a business element in it so that the antidote for the corona virus is sought after by many people, this is like a film about spreading viruses that can kill and destroy the economy globally. what do you think about this?

Highly possible.
In today's pandemic it is easy to think about that since we are in the where people are too wise and evil.

Being  greedy while expert to a profession is really the best thing for the evil intentions of a person who is subject to it.


Title: Re: a disease or a virus or is there business in it?
Post by: PavelMed on June 04, 2020, 05:59:44 PM
At first I thought it was really dangerous. But then the situation became absurd, and I began to more and more doubt the reality of the virus. No acquaintance got sick. And the media only talks about one thing - the virus. Where is the news about the attacks? Everything is strange and we can only watch.


Title: Re: a disease or a virus or is there business in it?
Post by: Nathanz on June 05, 2020, 03:16:20 AM
There is a possibility that this virus is man-made. No one knows, but there is a chance and we all know about that. There are a lot theories and speculations that China did the virus but all of those are only conspiracies. Moreover, some of the politicians on different countries used the pandemic for their own interests. So yeah, there is a possibility.


Title: Re: a disease or a virus or is there business in it?
Post by: chrisculanag on June 05, 2020, 04:11:44 AM
There are many speculation about this kind of virus , some others said that is man made while others said that is the virus that came in the many animal that contaminated in china. Because of this many researcher scientists want to find a cure or a vaccine that can stop this kind of virus. And because of the spreading of this virus , many countries want to buy and find a vaccine for there people's.


Title: Re: a disease or a virus or is there business in it?
Post by: josgandosbro on June 05, 2020, 04:20:18 AM
some cities in my country have been released from lockdown, they have started their activities as usual, from here I am not too sure if the corona really spread as reported in the media. one example, I read in the media if there are 5 people who vacation together about a week. eat, sleep and do activities together during the holidays. but why when they go home only 1 person is affected by the virus? others are fine. if indeed contagious of course all will be affected by the virus. in my opinion in this case there is indeed business in it


Title: Re: a disease or a virus or is there business in it?
Post by: CHENIEN on June 06, 2020, 03:40:58 AM
It's difficult to find out more evidence regarding this matter how the unexpected diseases such as the pandemic virus ,at this season we are all the victims which is very active and aggressive to kill the lives of thousand people who have been criticized and absolutely innocent totally I'm not sure but I think the production of medicine including a face mask are still in line with the multi millionaires maybe today or tomorrow without any contradiction and predection .


Title: Re: a disease or a virus or is there business in it?
Post by: Negotiation on June 06, 2020, 03:53:51 AM
This virus is very difficult to predict Many will spread rumors to do business but we have to make our own arrangements without listening to them. However, many people will not be able to be very successful in business because so far no one has been able to invent anything to cure this disease How can the common man guarantee that no one but God can save us from this epidemic The coronavirus is an epidemic and has no cure.


Title: Re: a disease or a virus or is there business in it?
Post by: DoubleEdgeEX on June 06, 2020, 08:03:39 AM
It has a reason why the rich get richer even in times of crisis. There is a boatload of money to be made with fear and anxiety, and getting governmental support and debt discharge makes it even better.


Title: Re: a disease or a virus or is there business in it?
Post by: raidarksword on June 06, 2020, 09:52:56 AM
There are chances that this pandemic could be a business matter after all before it was spread like wildfire all over the globe. Greedy people in my country did grabbed the opportunities to hoard common medical necessities like ethyl alcohols and face masks wherein many people who badly needed cannot buy anymore because of supply just run out on stores. Now, people are now desperate to buy to that over-priced products despite the crisis brought by this pandemic.


Title: Re: a disease or a virus or is there business in it?
Post by: coinfinger on June 06, 2020, 06:42:34 PM
some cities in my country have been released from lockdown, they have started their activities as usual, from here I am not too sure if the corona really spread as reported in the media. one example, I read in the media if there are 5 people who vacation together about a week. eat, sleep and do activities together during the holidays. but why when they go home only 1 person is affected by the virus? others are fine. if indeed contagious of course all will be affected by the virus. in my opinion in this case there is indeed business in it
Nah, I am not going to believe. Any media that posts this are really going to get serious backlash from people, this is not something people would like to hear or read. But I do some people that keep making speculations that are similar to this on Twitter. I am not going to believe this talk, covid-19 is just a virus, although we don't know exactly where it originated from. But, scientists around the world are working hard towards creating a cure/vaccine to help ease and stop the spread of the virus once and for all. Right now, all we can do is to hope in God and pray for his healing for the world.

If there are business which were planned behind this pandemic may come to an end when there will be a vaccine. So, all we need right now must be a vaccine and proper guideline for elder people who are having high risk against the covid-19. This disease may end up a disease even there are any plans behind the screens when there will be vaccine.


Title: Re: a disease or a virus or is there business in it?
Post by: dunfida on June 06, 2020, 10:06:44 PM
some cities in my country have been released from lockdown, they have started their activities as usual, from here I am not too sure if the corona really spread as reported in the media. one example, I read in the media if there are 5 people who vacation together about a week. eat, sleep and do activities together during the holidays. but why when they go home only 1 person is affected by the virus? others are fine. if indeed contagious of course all will be affected by the virus. in my opinion in this case there is indeed business in it
Nah, I am not going to believe. Any media that posts this are really going to get serious backlash from people, this is not something people would like to hear or read. But I do some people that keep making speculations that are similar to this on Twitter. I am not going to believe this talk, covid-19 is just a virus, although we don't know exactly where it originated from. But, scientists around the world are working hard towards creating a cure/vaccine to help ease and stop the spread of the virus once and for all. Right now, all we can do is to hope in God and pray for his healing for the world.

If there are business which were planned behind this pandemic may come to an end when there will be a vaccine. So, all we need right now must be a vaccine and proper guideline for elder people who are having high risk against the covid-19. This disease may end up a disease even there are any plans behind the screens when there will be vaccine.

You cant really stop people on making these presumptions because humans do have that kind of behavior on searching up into something and all the possibilities.
This is why you can see lots of them floating around which we cant really say that its pointless or impossible since those rumors can possibly happen behind.
Im not saying that i do agree with them but theres actually a point but all of those sayings would remain in that state since theres no solid proof or leakage
so lets take its as a grain of salt.


Title: Re: a disease or a virus or is there business in it?
Post by: BITCOIN4X on June 06, 2020, 11:59:08 PM
You cant really stop people on making these presumptions because humans do have that kind of behavior on searching up into something and all the possibilities.
To be precise, people have the right to suspect anything until they find out what really happened with the evidence, thats what happened with this pandemic. The virus has become a pandemic so vaccines must be made to control infections that are getting worse.

One would think that a vaccine is what is called a new of business because of the assumption that this virus is a creation. I do not know who is to blame, because the more things that become accusations will make people more critically think about getting proof of the truth.


Title: Re: a disease or a virus or is there business in it?
Post by: The cure on June 23, 2020, 10:30:17 AM
We do not know the exact circumstances behind it, there are so many speculations came out about this virus but i think no one would like to happen this because it is possible that even their own families might get infected. These corona virus is like Spanish flu its just like the same symptoms, that was happened early 1918 meaning that kind of virus is just around us and no one can tell when it will come back just like what's happening to us today.Government is trying to find solutions about this pandemic and they treated the sick, also scientists are trying to find the cure through vaccine.