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Title: US is so poor that president trump constantly attack China. Post by: SuperBowl1984 on May 17, 2020, 11:52:45 AM US is so poor that president trump constantly attack China. Because China is so rich that they can buy the entire Africa, they can buy the entire existing technology, they can invest into best new talents, they can invest into 5G, 6G, 7G, they can build the best spaceship with all the income they received from tax money. China spend the income tax they received from new apple iPhone sale to acquire new technology, buy poor country, buy young talents, funding educations, funding new technology. Also income tax from many major US based tech company that operate in China, they all pay tax to China government like an overjoyed lapping puppy. Meanwhile US allocate the income tax they received from big America company to acquire new military bases, build new nuclear bomb, fund the Middle East oil wars, invest into new drugs, invest into new vaccines, fund keyboard warriors army who is pro government, fund the anti fake news movement, fund the internet censorship movement, fund the network mass surveillance movement, etc everything that wiki leaks has to expose for a long time ago, the unclassified documents and the Edward Snowden’s unclassified security data, also money goes to send Julian Assange into jail by conviction of guilty, that’s you tax payers money, tax payers send Julian Assange to jail by paying more taxes, that’s a lot of tax payer money get abused on corruption. If I’m a honest tax payer I would pay my tax to the one who will use the money for the better good of all human being. No wonder many productive company start moving their production to China, they rather pay tax to their enemy than pay tax to fund their own government. That include company from US, Japan, Korea, Taiwan, German, EU, UK, India, Russia, Australia, Canada, Africa, Dubai. Who’s willing to pay taxes to US government please hand down. Who is willing to pay taxes to the China government please hand up. Ask yourselves do you like to pay taxes to the US government? And ask yourselves again do you like to don’t pay taxes to the China government? The whole reason why apple is reluctance and refuse to return their entire operation to US might be because they’re tired of paying tax to the US govt who constantly misuse the tax money on selfish gain, they would continue to pay their income tax to China as long as it’s not going into the hand of tyrannical government, yeah apple is a big fat cash cow that account for so much tax income that trump is drooling and want it to come back so badly it want to drain up every single drop of apple blood from its root. Why are US based tech companies so hypocrites, they’re killing the US job markets, by moving every single job to China, moving every single income tax to China. People in the US has no job, they would begin to starve, when they’re too starved, they will get mad, and get down the street, the first thing they will do is overthrow the government, as the government provide no jobs and income to the US people, apple looking at it on the high ground, looking at US people go down the street and marching to destroy the government, and the government has no money to pay for its expense because all the fat cash cow tech companies has moved to China, US government cannot extract more tax money from the oversea US companies anymore to fund their luxuries on producing more mass destruction weapons. Also apple launching more overpriced apple stand and apple wheels so that US buyer continued to buy more from apple and move more money to the China, the faster apple could drain dry all the wealth from the gullible US consumers the faster the US will go broke, shut down government office, next shut down White House, shut down military operation, shut down network surveillance, one by one get shut down, finally apple can get their sweet revenge. The entire parody is being playing on the US, economies, but there is so little can be done to reverse the trend. Of course, unless the China finally turn into tyrannical government and spend their tax income resource on wasteful development, that will be the turning point for the US to become relevant again, and only the US based tech companies were convinced to move their operations elsewhere. Yeah, China is getting aggressive lately, they seem to be slowly turning into tyrannical, but so far there is little to worry about, they might be colonising many poor country, but nothing violence are happening, everything is done peacefully, and no big business want to give up on China operation and continued paying taxes to China. Title: Re: US is so poor that president trump constantly attack China. Post by: plvbob0070 on May 17, 2020, 02:52:06 PM If you are talking about the production that are mostly being made in China, it's because China has a low labor expense. It's not only the US but most products are being made in China because of cheap labor.
If I’m a honest tax payer I would pay my tax to the one who will use the money for the better good of all human being. No wonder many productive company start moving their production to China, they rather pay tax to their enemy than pay tax to fund their own government. That include company from US, Japan, Korea, Taiwan, German, EU, UK, India, Russia, Australia, Canada, Africa, Dubai. Who’s willing to pay taxes to US government please hand down. Who is willing to pay taxes to the China government please hand up. Ask yourselves do you like to pay taxes to the US government? And ask yourselves again do you like to don’t pay taxes to the China government? Everyone wants to see that their money is in good hands and the taxes they are paying are being used in an effective project. Although for me, it's not about which country is earning money on production. It's more practical for some big producing companies if the production was held in China because it will lessen the expenses on labor. And after all, when you sell your product in your country, your government will still receive your tax payment. Production in China doesn't necessarily mean that there would be no available job for US citizens. The whole process is not only about production. I don't think that Apple would rather give their money to China because they think that their country's government is incompetent. I also don't think they will benefit from paying China when they are not even a citizen of that country. Actually I think, the US government is earning enough because Apple has a worldwide sale. They are selling their product in different countries, and the US is the one benefitting from it. If you think that the US government is not good at their job, it has nothing to do with most company production in China. And you could also add a link or source where Trump is attacking China to connect it with your title. Title: Re: US is so poor that president trump constantly attack China. Post by: Haunebu on May 17, 2020, 03:01:10 PM Hilarious title. Despite his flaws, Trump is completely right in attacking China these days since their incompetence led to a worldwide plague. I don't support the crazy conspiracy theories regarding China inventing the virus in one of their labs etc.
On top of this, the Chinese government faked their COVID numbers and they even manipulated the WHO for their own profit. Pathetic and distasteful behavior in my opinion. Also, I am not a US citizen. Title: Re: US is so poor that president trump constantly attack China. Post by: samcrypto on May 17, 2020, 03:04:32 PM Trump knows its consequences and I’m sure his administration also aware of this but it doesn’t mean they’re poor. We need US to be strong in terms of military because a lot of countries depends on them and since China is too aggressive, maybe bigger countries have to be more prepared for the worst.
Countries are ally in terms of businesses, and since the production cost in China is cheaper, many companies choses to work with them and of course they have to pay taxes since they worked in an international soil. Don’t worry, the trade war between in US and China is getting worse and US companies are now looking for other place to do their production, and Indonesia is one of a great place which is also their allies. Big economies can also collapse, that’s why we need to be prepared for the recession and we don’t know when it will happen. Title: Re: US is so poor that president trump constantly attack China. Post by: fiulpro on May 17, 2020, 03:45:26 PM See problem is China have done something horrible, even if the virus did not originate in the Labs , the government failed to control it , now the whole world is suffering. They sushed their own doctors when they stood up against the government.
They tried their best to not let the world know about this . When the countries asked them for the virus information they did not give it . I do hate Trump, trust me . But what China did is horrible and they need to pay for it trust me. Not the people , The government. The people are never at the fault . They even scammed other countries by giving faulty medical appliances !! Like seriously?? The world is right now facing a pandemic and you are doing this ? The government lacks the common sense , they should understand that because of them the whole world is now suffering . Therefore it is right if the US wants China to go through an Investigation to determine the cause of the Virus being spread believe it on not a country's true power , true strength does not depend on the money they have . It is more connected with the Values the Government, the People displays. Title: Re: US is so poor that president trump constantly attack China. Post by: SuperBowl1984 on May 17, 2020, 05:09:09 PM If you are talking about the production that are mostly being made in China, it's because China has a low labor expense. It's not only the US but most products are being made in China because of cheap labor. China is not cheap to manufacturing goods.Everyone wants to see that their money is in good hands and the taxes they are paying are being used in an effective project. Although for me, it's not about which country is earning money on production. It's more practical for some big producing companies if the production was held in China because it will lessen the expenses on labor. And after all, when you sell your product in your country, your government will still receive your tax payment. Production in China doesn't necessarily mean that there would be no available job for US citizens. The whole process is not only about production. Quote I don't think that Apple would rather give their money to China because they think that their country's government is incompetent. I also don't think they will benefit from paying China when they are not even a citizen of that country. Actually I think, the US government is earning enough because Apple has a worldwide sale. They are selling their product in different countries, and the US is the one benefitting from it. Apple pay so much tax to the China government to the point that nobody know how much it’s paid, no data is leaked to the public, and China can buy the entire USA with cash that’s generated from tax money. Quote If you think that the US government is not good at their job, it has nothing to do with most company production in China. And you could also add a link or source where Trump is attacking China to connect it with your title. Nobody know why apple refuses to return to their home land, US has whatever China have, young talent, manufacturing fab, low cost labour that willing to work for Amazon, easy credit, raw materials, everything they wish for, but apple refuse to return. Title: Re: US is so poor that president trump constantly attack China. Post by: SuperBowl1984 on May 17, 2020, 05:15:36 PM Hilarious title. Despite his flaws, Trump is completely right in attacking China these days since their incompetence led to a worldwide plague. I don't support the crazy conspiracy theories regarding China inventing the virus in one of their labs etc. I believe in the money, China is very rich, very huge, it can buy the entire globe with tax money collected, and apple is the 17th biggest gdp by country on it’s own, that’s $1.2 trillions just way behind US total gdp of $20 trillions. That haven’t include activision blizzard, Tesla, Toyota, McDonald,... many US, Japan home grown giant who love to pay tax to China government, although they’re far less valuable than apple.On top of this, the Chinese government faked their COVID numbers and they even manipulated the WHO for their own profit. Pathetic and distasteful behavior in my opinion. Also, I am not a US citizen. Title: Re: US is so poor that president trump constantly attack China. Post by: SuperBowl1984 on May 17, 2020, 05:36:43 PM Trump knows its consequences and I’m sure his administration also aware of this but it doesn’t mean they’re poor. We need US to be strong in terms of military because a lot of countries depends on them and since China is too aggressive, maybe bigger countries have to be more prepared for the worst. Countries are ally in terms of businesses, and since the production cost in China is cheaper, many companies choses to work with them and of course they have to pay taxes since they worked in an international soil. Don’t worry, the trade war between in US and China is getting worse and US companies are now looking for other place to do their production, and Indonesia is one of a great place which is also their allies. Big economies can also collapse, that’s why we need to be prepared for the recession and we don’t know when it will happen. 1984 is the super bowl to the personal computer, “think differently” 2020 is the super bowl to end USD, “think China”—>https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5248815.0 Title: Re: US is so poor that president trump constantly attack China. Post by: NotATether on May 17, 2020, 05:44:18 PM The whole reason why apple is reluctance and refuse to return their entire operation to US might be because they’re tired of paying tax to the US govt who constantly misuse the tax money on selfish gain, they would continue to pay their income tax to China as long as it’s not going into the hand of tyrannical government, yeah apple is a big fat cash cow that account for so much tax income that trump is drooling and want it to come back so badly it want to drain up every single drop of apple blood from its root. The real reason why Apple and other technology companies have most of their manufacturing operations in china is because it is cheaper to mass produce products there. The supply chains that make all the products that western companies sell are mostly owned by chinese manufacturing conglomerates, and western companies must form a partnership with them if they want to make stuff. They can't just buy the manufacturing arms because China won't allow that. And their operations aren't just in china they're in most Far Eastern country that has a low exchange rate like Vietnam and Cambodia because they are able to pay workers living there in less US dollars than they would pay someone working from the US because there is a lower standard of living in those countries and as a result of exchange rates, foriegn workers can live off of less USD than normal. Title: Re: US is so poor that president trump constantly attack China. Post by: electronicash on May 17, 2020, 06:21:04 PM thats funny. i don't look at it that companies like apple don't wanna pay US government due to misuse of tax money. its just that apple can gain and benefit more if their production is in china. this is also what other companies are after why they stay in China which also made them richer. they are becoming too rich which is dangerous.
i like what china is doing to the poor countries and helping them grow. they are helping my country too. i hope they can unite the whole Asia and not invade like what they are doing to the uyghur city. Title: Re: US is so poor that president trump constantly attack China. Post by: figmentofmyass on May 17, 2020, 06:24:55 PM Nobody know why apple refuses to return to their home land, US has whatever China have, young talent, manufacturing fab, low cost labour that willing to work for Amazon, easy credit, raw materials, everything they wish for, but apple refuse to return. chinese labor isn't that cheap anymore, but it's still cheaper than american. the big draws IMO are very weak (basically nonexistent) unionization, lack of regulations (like environmental ones), cheaper raw material costs due to scale and sourcing from china itself, faster internal supply chains..... trump did lower the hell outta corporate taxes, bringing them closer in line with china, which should make USA production more attractive. both countries allow for extreme corporate tax loopholes anyway though so i'm not sure how much of a difference the 2017 tax cuts made. Title: Re: US is so poor that president trump constantly attack China. Post by: SuperBowl1984 on May 17, 2020, 08:05:04 PM The whole reason why apple is reluctance and refuse to return their entire operation to US might be because they’re tired of paying tax to the US govt who constantly misuse the tax money on selfish gain, they would continue to pay their income tax to China as long as it’s not going into the hand of tyrannical government, yeah apple is a big fat cash cow that account for so much tax income that trump is drooling and want it to come back so badly it want to drain up every single drop of apple blood from its root. The real reason why Apple and other technology companies have most of their manufacturing operations in china is because it is cheaper to mass produce products there. The supply chains that make all the products that western companies sell are mostly owned by chinese manufacturing conglomerates, and western companies must form a partnership with them if they want to make stuff. They can't just buy the manufacturing arms because China won't allow that. And their operations aren't just in china they're in most Far Eastern country that has a low exchange rate like Vietnam and Cambodia because they are able to pay workers living there in less US dollars than they would pay someone working from the US because there is a lower standard of living in those countries and as a result of exchange rates, foriegn workers can live off of less USD than normal. Title: Re: US is so poor that president trump constantly attack China. Post by: SuperBowl1984 on May 17, 2020, 08:26:51 PM Nobody know why apple refuses to return to their home land, US has whatever China have, young talent, manufacturing fab, low cost labour that willing to work for Amazon, easy credit, raw materials, everything they wish for, but apple refuse to return. chinese labor isn't that cheap anymore, but it's still cheaper than american. the big draws IMO are very weak (basically nonexistent) unionization, lack of regulations (like environmental ones), cheaper raw material costs due to scale and sourcing from china itself, faster internal supply chains..... trump did lower the hell outta corporate taxes, bringing them closer in line with china, which should make USA production more attractive. both countries allow for extreme corporate tax loopholes anyway though so i'm not sure how much of a difference the 2017 tax cuts made. Nope, Chinese is not cheap, it’s the US who’s cheap. Chinese are the most expensive talent to hire. Many Chinese are highly paid than many US cheap CEO. thats funny. i don't look at it that companies like apple don't wanna pay US government due to misuse of tax money. its just that apple can gain and benefit more if their production is in china. this is also what other companies are after why they stay in China which also made them richer. they are becoming too rich which is dangerous. i like what china is doing to the poor countries and helping them grow. they are helping my country too. i hope they can unite the whole Asia and not invade like what they are doing to the uyghur city. That’s not funny after you clearly talk to a US guy who living in China, they really hate US and not willing to pay any tax to the government, they’re not ashamed to be called hypocrites, even from their enemy, activision blizzard is another white monkey who love to pay tax to China governments and even bend their own rules to complied with the China demand. Title: Re: US is so poor that president trump constantly attack China. Post by: SuperBowl1984 on May 17, 2020, 08:51:47 PM See problem is China have done something horrible, even if the virus did not originate in the Labs , the government failed to control it , now the whole world is suffering. They sushed their own doctors when they stood up against the government. They tried their best to not let the world know about this . When the countries asked them for the virus information they did not give it . I do hate Trump, trust me . But what China did is horrible and they need to pay for it trust me. Not the people , The government. The people are never at the fault . They even scammed other countries by giving faulty medical appliances !! Like seriously?? The world is right now facing a pandemic and you are doing this ? The government lacks the common sense , they should understand that because of them the whole world is now suffering . Therefore it is right if the US wants China to go through an Investigation to determine the cause of the Virus being spread believe it on not a country's true power , true strength does not depend on the money they have . It is more connected with the Values the Government, the People displays. The most horrible thing China can do is publicly executing corrupted government officials, China is taking corruption seriously. I think many US government officials wouldn’t love to move to China because all of them will be publicly executed without paroles, everybody know how corrupted are US government officials, every piece of corruption is uploaded into the wiki leaks servers for the laugh. Title: Re: US is so poor that president trump constantly attack China. Post by: Findingnemo on May 17, 2020, 09:19:26 PM Developed countries like USA chosen developing countries to build their manufacturing plants is simply because they don't want to lose their resources.Money is nothing but the paper so any country can print it but USA holds advantage of being reserve currency and almost every forex transaction needs US dollars so they are making lot of money other than the companies like Apple paying to them.
Title: Re: US is so poor that president trump constantly attack China. Post by: Darker45 on May 18, 2020, 03:25:03 AM US is so poor... Not yet. Quote China spend the income tax... The difference between the US and China is that the former cannot just spend their tax in whichever way they deem proper without hearings, complaints, heated debates, protests, legal battles, and the like while the latter can spend it any way they want because even the lowest opposing voice is ruthlessly stifled. Quote If I’m a honest tax payer I would pay my tax to the one who will use the money for the better good of all human being. Pay tax to where it is due. Quote Why are US based tech companies so hypocrites... They are not. They are not proclaiming themselves to be operating for the sake of the stars and stripes. They mean serious business, purely, and nothing else. Quote Of course, unless the China finally turn into tyrannical government... It already is. Title: Re: US is so poor that president trump constantly attack China. Post by: abhiseshakana on May 18, 2020, 03:42:24 AM America colonizes under the guise of democracy and capitalism while China colonizes its OBOR. There is nothing better between the two. Both want to exploit other countries for their national interests. And both of them are puppets of the shadow power behind them.
At the moment Trump is in a precarious condition, the month of November feels so short for the Trump administration. Domestically, Trump is facing a war with the Democrat Party with Joe Biden. While the other front Trump is at war with China, the great power. The next day after being inaugurated, Trump signed an American military budget of 700 billion dollars or the largest amount of all time in the military budget in one year. Trump is a national and the defense and oil industry contractors who support Trump. Economic man and war champion are the hallmarks of Trump. The Clinton and Obama era is the era of globalist development and the development of a Globalist manufacturing support system in China because of that the democratic party has a close relationship with Xi. In the Clinton era in power, China intensified its industrial manufacturing foundation with a strategy of imitating, duplicating, and then modifying. Even during Obama's time, China became a strategic American partner. But the sweet times between globalists and China ended when Trump came to power. Trump is dealing with xi jing ping who is also a nationalist. Trump began to shake up with a strategy of attracting dollars outside the United States, then companies outside the United States were withdrawn, and began to kick globalists for not relying on global supply chain management outside American hegemony. This technological war is important for China and America because the world pendulum will shift in the direction of all-algorithm and AI. Title: Re: US is so poor that president trump constantly attack China. Post by: SuperBowl1984 on May 18, 2020, 05:43:08 AM Quote How is your daily routine during lock down, are you sure you don’t feel poorer at all time? Are you sure you can compare to China spending habit? Are you sure you’re not fearing on getting poorer? I think many people has loss their jobs, without source of income, and it would be very long terms, might be last for a few years, that’s gonna change many people life tremendously, and their daily routine would never be the same again, I’m very curious, to know are you doing any better by now, and what’s your plan or you’re just simply being hostile to the lock down by being unable to be yourself, totally clueless, just at the mercy of lock down, shameless, I think white monkey in China might have more freedom than you’re in your home land. Quote The difference between the US and China is that the former cannot just spend their tax in whichever way they deem proper without hearings, complaints, heated debates, protests, legal battles, and the like while the latter can spend it any way they want because even the lowest opposing voice is ruthlessly stifled. ... As usual, the thing that’s stopping US to move forward.Quote Pay tax to where it is due. How are you gonna pay tax when you have absolutely no income, no jobs, and no food on the table? The only person who’s still working and paying tax are big businesses in China.Quote They are not. They are not proclaiming themselves to be operating for the sake of the stars and stripes. They mean serious business, purely, and nothing else. ... Many big businesses are acting very hostile, at the mercy of the China government, they need to adjust themselves to best suit the regulatory needs, “serious business”? What’s serious about apple stand? What’s serious about apple wheels? How many times apple has delivering empty promise after Steve Jobs passed the baton? Very serious indeed!Quote It already is. I don’t agree with you. A tyrannical government are cunning, wars mongering, fear mongering, ... and eventually lead to a self destruction.“John Wilkes Booth shoots Abraham Lincoln. President Abraham Lincoln is shot in the head at Ford's Theatre in Washington, D.C. The assassin, actor John Wilkes Booth, shouted, “Sic semper tyrannis! (Ever thus to tyrants!) The South is avenged,” as he jumped onto the stage and fled on horseback.” Title: Re: US is so poor that president trump constantly attack China. Post by: SuperBowl1984 on May 18, 2020, 06:02:27 AM America colonizes under the guise of democracy and capitalism while China colonizes its OBOR. There is nothing better between the two. Both want to exploit other countries for their national interests. And both of them are puppets of the shadow power behind them. At the moment Trump is in a precarious condition, the month of November feels so short for the Trump administration. Domestically, Trump is facing a war with the Democrat Party with Joe Biden. While the other front Trump is at war with China, the great power. The next day after being inaugurated, Trump signed an American military budget of 700 billion dollars or the largest amount of all time in the military budget in one year. Trump is a national and the defense and oil industry contractors who support Trump. Economic man and war champion are the hallmarks of Trump. The Clinton and Obama era is the era of globalist development and the development of a Globalist manufacturing support system in China because of that the democratic party has a close relationship with Xi. In the Clinton era in power, China intensified its industrial manufacturing foundation with a strategy of imitating, duplicating, and then modifying. Even during Obama's time, China became a strategic American partner. But the sweet times between globalists and China ended when Trump came to power. Trump is dealing with xi jing ping who is also a nationalist. Trump began to shake up with a strategy of attracting dollars outside the United States, then companies outside the United States were withdrawn, and began to kick globalists for not relying on global supply chain management outside American hegemony. This technological war is important for China and America because the world pendulum will shift in the direction of all-algorithm and AI. During the colonisation era, you really don’t want to be living in the country that’s getting colonised by the external forces, remember the Japanese colonisation? The nazi colonisation? Many might have not aware of what we are having right now is not much differ than world wars 2, I think I want to call 2020 a world wars 3, but how many people want to agree with me? They all believe it’s just some virus, during the colonisation, you’re not allowed to leave your colonies country, and escape yourself to the great power who can colonise the other country, that’s China! All the smartest brain already establish themselves in China, because they don’t want to be the victims on the soil of colonisation, big businesses, big boy, big brain have all move to China who have the power to colonise the weak. Yeah, keeping you in the dark and start colonising one bit by one bit for many years to come, and politicians are there to betray the voters. Title: Re: US is so poor that president trump constantly attack China. Post by: mu_enrico on May 18, 2020, 06:10:17 AM US is so poor that president trump constantly attack China. Because China is so rich... What is the metric to say China is richer than the US? GDP? GDP/capita?Of course, unless the China finally turn into tyrannical government What what?... they seem to be slowly turning into tyrannical When did China or CCP become less tyrannical? People there were crushed from the beginning. If you notice why Chinese people are everywhere, it because they are oppressed for thousands of years and nothing changes. Title: Re: US is so poor that president trump constantly attack China. Post by: SuperBowl1984 on May 18, 2020, 06:16:17 AM US is so poor that president trump constantly attack China. Because China is so rich... What is the metric to say China is richer than the US? GDP? GDP/capita?Of course, unless the China finally turn into tyrannical government What what?... they seem to be slowly turning into tyrannical When did China or CCP become less tyrannical? People there were crushed from the beginning. If you notice why Chinese people are everywhere, it because they are oppressed for thousands of years and nothing changes. Because there is no civil war in China, a government of a country turn tyrannical when there is “WARS”, constrast to the US, the civil war is the one that spark the tyrannical government to get overthrown, World War I and World War II to oust the tyrannical leaders, why I’m calling China turning tyrannical lately? Because they colonise many countries which is very tyrannical moves in disguise. Title: Re: US is so poor that president trump constantly attack China. Post by: Latviand on May 18, 2020, 07:24:42 AM If you are talking about the production that are mostly being made in China, it's because China has a low labor expense. It's not only the US but most products are being made in China because of cheap labor. China is not cheap to manufacturing goods.Everyone wants to see that their money is in good hands and the taxes they are paying are being used in an effective project. Although for me, it's not about which country is earning money on production. It's more practical for some big producing companies if the production was held in China because it will lessen the expenses on labor. And after all, when you sell your product in your country, your government will still receive your tax payment. Production in China doesn't necessarily mean that there would be no available job for US citizens. The whole process is not only about production. Quote I don't think that Apple would rather give their money to China because they think that their country's government is incompetent. I also don't think they will benefit from paying China when they are not even a citizen of that country. Actually I think, the US government is earning enough because Apple has a worldwide sale. They are selling their product in different countries, and the US is the one benefitting from it. Apple pay so much tax to the China government to the point that nobody know how much it’s paid, no data is leaked to the public, and China can buy the entire USA with cash that’s generated from tax money. Quote If you think that the US government is not good at their job, it has nothing to do with most company production in China. And you could also add a link or source where Trump is attacking China to connect it with your title. Nobody know why apple refuses to return to their home land, US has whatever China have, young talent, manufacturing fab, low cost labour that willing to work for Amazon, easy credit, raw materials, everything they wish for, but apple refuse to return. First of all, we all know that China is the no.1 manufacturer and producer of our goods all around the world and it true that during this pandemic, their economy is stable and manipulated properly compared to other countries that are suffering in this pandemic. Many of us here are using products or items that were made by them because it is cheaper. US is really affected by this pandemic as their economy is crashing and they don't know what to do, especially that we know there is some conflict between the two countries, China and Us. In terms of Apple, they are both getting some benefits using the product that they are supporting because they both promote Apple products. The reason why Trump attacking China is just simple, because he is racist. His personality as a leader is not that effective and a good image during this pandemic that all he gonna do is to blame China about this pandemic. It is true that China is accountable about this events that pandemic occurs but Trump should also prioritize its citizens. Title: Re: US is so poor that president trump constantly attack China. Post by: plvbob0070 on May 18, 2020, 10:26:14 AM China is not cheap to manufacturing goods. but cheaper than manufacturing it in the US.Apple pay so much tax to the China government to the point that nobody know how much it’s paid, no data is leaked to the public, and China can buy the entire USA with cash that’s generated from tax money. What I'm saying is that the reason for an incompetent government is not related to why they choose to manufacture in China. The reason why they are paying huge amounts of money in China is that they are producing it in China so they are obliged to pay there. But I think it's too much when you say that the amount of tax that Apple is paying to China can buy the US. You already said that nobody knows how much they pay China so how can you say that it can actually buy the entire US? Nobody know why apple refuses to return to their home land, US has whatever China have, young talent, manufacturing fab, low cost labour that willing to work for Amazon, easy credit, raw materials, everything they wish for, but apple refuse to return. It's the manufacturing process that is held in China but it does not mean that everything is from China. They own the design and the material is from different parts of the world.Title: Re: US is so poor that president trump constantly attack China. Post by: Darker45 on May 18, 2020, 10:33:28 AM Quote How is your daily routine during lock down, are you sure you don’t feel poorer at all time? Are you sure you can compare to China spending habit? Are you sure you’re not fearing on getting poorer? I think many people has loss their jobs, without source of income, and it would be very long terms, might be last for a few years, that’s gonna change many people life tremendously, and their daily routine would never be the same again, I’m very curious, to know are you doing any better by now, and what’s your plan or you’re just simply being hostile to the lock down by being unable to be yourself, totally clueless, just at the mercy of lock down, shameless, I think white monkey in China might have more freedom than you’re in your home land.
Quote Quote The difference between the US and China is that the former cannot just spend their tax in whichever way they deem proper without hearings, complaints, heated debates, protests, legal battles, and the like while the latter can spend it any way they want because even the lowest opposing voice is ruthlessly stifled. ... As usual, the thing that’s stopping US to move forward.I totally agree! Quote Quote Pay tax to where it is due. How are you gonna pay tax when you have absolutely no income, no jobs, and no food on the table? The only person who’s still working and paying tax are big businesses in China.
Quote Quote They are not. They are not proclaiming themselves to be operating for the sake of the stars and stripes. They mean serious business, purely, and nothing else. ... Many big businesses are acting very hostile, at the mercy of the China government, they need to adjust themselves to best suit the regulatory needs, “serious business”? What’s serious about apple stand? What’s serious about apple wheels? How many times apple has delivering empty promise after Steve Jobs passed the baton? Very serious indeed!
Quote The assassin, actor John Wilkes Booth...jumped onto the stage... And broke his leg. ;) Title: Re: US is so poor that president trump constantly attack China. Post by: SuperBowl1984 on May 18, 2020, 01:15:40 PM If you are talking about the production that are mostly being made in China, it's because China has a low labor expense. It's not only the US but most products are being made in China because of cheap labor. China is not cheap to manufacturing goods.Everyone wants to see that their money is in good hands and the taxes they are paying are being used in an effective project. Although for me, it's not about which country is earning money on production. It's more practical for some big producing companies if the production was held in China because it will lessen the expenses on labor. And after all, when you sell your product in your country, your government will still receive your tax payment. Production in China doesn't necessarily mean that there would be no available job for US citizens. The whole process is not only about production. Quote I don't think that Apple would rather give their money to China because they think that their country's government is incompetent. I also don't think they will benefit from paying China when they are not even a citizen of that country. Actually I think, the US government is earning enough because Apple has a worldwide sale. They are selling their product in different countries, and the US is the one benefitting from it. Apple pay so much tax to the China government to the point that nobody know how much it’s paid, no data is leaked to the public, and China can buy the entire USA with cash that’s generated from tax money. Quote If you think that the US government is not good at their job, it has nothing to do with most company production in China. And you could also add a link or source where Trump is attacking China to connect it with your title. Nobody know why apple refuses to return to their home land, US has whatever China have, young talent, manufacturing fab, low cost labour that willing to work for Amazon, easy credit, raw materials, everything they wish for, but apple refuse to return. First of all, we all know that China is the no.1 manufacturer and producer of our goods all around the world and it true that during this pandemic, their economy is stable and manipulated properly compared to other countries that are suffering in this pandemic. Many of us here are using products or items that were made by them because it is cheaper. US is really affected by this pandemic as their economy is crashing and they don't know what to do, especially that we know there is some conflict between the two countries, China and Us. In terms of Apple, they are both getting some benefits using the product that they are supporting because they both promote Apple products. The reason why Trump attacking China is just simple, because he is racist. His personality as a leader is not that effective and a good image during this pandemic that all he gonna do is to blame China about this pandemic. It is true that China is accountable about this events that pandemic occurs but Trump should also prioritize its citizens. I don’t know why the discussion will get distorted into this direction, it as always most of them who’s like to give generic answer, they would just blame everything on racist, inequality, sexism, white, left wing, right wing, and many people seem to buy into this idea. Nope, Trump is getting mad, it’s the money that drive anybody into racist, it’s the wealth that make people fall into jealousy, it’s all about money, the reality is China is so rich it even have impact on billionaire, nothing can drive any guy into insanity than money, you can dismiss it, but it’s you who’s racist trying to call the rest is racist, hypocritical people always do the same. Title: Re: US is so poor that president trump constantly attack China. Post by: DoublerHunter on May 18, 2020, 01:23:55 PM ^ Obviously these two countries are competitors in many aspects but they both have different approaches when it comes to government including other countries. All of us are entitled to our own opinion and depending on our preference we may be on the side of one party to the extent that we may become bias. Because of our preferences, we also tend to love, fight, or sometimes idolized the one that suits our preferences. We probably get into an argument if we encounter someone whose preference is the exact opposite of ours. US and China have different beliefs but at the end of the day, their aim is always for the good of many like for livelihood, security, education, etc. But if we are going to talk about sovereignty China is doing all of these just to defeat the US to have the absolute power for the entire globe since China has started doing that even in my country because they keep on trying to expand their territory to defeat the US easily.
Title: Re: US is so poor that president trump constantly attack China. Post by: SuperBowl1984 on May 18, 2020, 02:18:55 PM ^
US always want to be the number one even in the context of who get the most tax income from apple, US try to claim they’re the biggest beneficial from apple becoming the most powerful and valuable business. No business in this world pay more taxes to the China government than apple did, how much did Apple pay the tax to China government? Nobody know, but one thing everybody know, China own nearly all US debt, and that’s the money China collected from tax income to purchase US debt, where does China get so much US dollar to buy so much debt from the US besides collecting tax money from big US business??? China was in 2004 just a debt ridden poor country with nothing to show, nobody want to be China in 2004, only apple want to go to China, because Apple want to explore the Buddhist soul in the India, and convert into Buddist, the ironic is more and more US company move to China to find the same souls inspiration, that include Zuckerberg, the latest installation being blizzard. China literally have zero debt and have a lot of USD reserve in their coffers, that’s standing at $3 trillions after acquiring almost all US debt. Yeah from no USD reserve in 2004 into $3 trillions USD reserve in 2020, how did China get so much USD reserve from, nobody know how China could have so much USD reserve, no one want to question that. US is already owned by China in financial means, that’s China basically buyout the entire US, it’s just US refuse to acknowledge, and refuse to move out, like a tenant who refuse to pay rent but not willing to leave too, it’s how the business world work, you don’t pay rent then get out of the house! Title: Re: US is so poor that president trump constantly attack China. Post by: Haunebu on May 18, 2020, 02:45:28 PM Nobody know, but one thing everybody know, China own nearly all US debt, and that’s the money China collected from tax income to purchase US debt, where does China get so much US dollar to buy so much debt from the US besides collecting tax money from big US business??? I feel like this topic needs to be a part of the Politics section since you are constantly deriding the USA and glamorizing China by highlighting all the so-called benefits that China has over the US. Every country has a mountain of debts which is why China is not an exception.US is already owned by China in financial means, that’s China basically buyout the entire US, it’s just US refuse to acknowledge, and refuse to move out, like a tenant who refuse to pay rent but not willing to leave too, it’s how the business world work, you don’t pay rent then get out of the house! Lol. What? China owns US? Both countries have powerful economies. Comparing them is a big debate. It seems like you are trying to defend China incessantly since the entire world is blaming them for the COVID situation currently.Title: Re: US is so poor that president trump constantly attack China. Post by: SuperBowl1984 on May 18, 2020, 03:31:46 PM ^ yeah that’s it, that’s how president trump are feeling right now, president trump get so mad because it’s you who also behave like president trump. So mad that he want to ban China, so mad that you want to ban me, why can’t discuss about US debt in this section? Is it a moderated keyword? Admin can clarify?
Title: Re: US is so poor that president trump constantly attack China. Post by: Kakmakr on May 18, 2020, 05:18:42 PM China is very clever, they grab all the raw resources from the 3rd world countries and then turn that into products to sell it back to the 3rd world countries and even the USA for a massive profit. Their workforce in China is very disciplined and hard working and also cheaper than first world workers in countries like the USA with all their Unions and human right and basic conditions of employment requirements. ::)
The people in the US are getting massive salaries, compared to workers doing the same work in the USA. So you cannot blame China for using their own cheaper workforce and also investing into their own economy. ::) Title: Re: US is so poor that president trump constantly attack China. Post by: darewaller on May 18, 2020, 07:16:54 PM I am not a big fan of USA neither and I think they are run very corruptly and I think you are right in many aspects of your attacks against USA, they are not even as democratic and free as they claim to be as well.
However trying to show how powerful China is by saying they could buy the whole continent of Africa is not a way to promote China neither. Are they very powerful? Sure they are, but their government is the one that is so powerful, Chinese people are still living a lot worse than many people in European countries, even the small and economically bad ones, Americans live better than Chinese as well, almost everyone lives better than Chinese, these are the people who call 1 dollar per day as living wage versus 10 bucks an hour in USA. Moreover, China is known for their recent horrible treatment of Uyghur Turks and also what they did to Hong Kong. Having a powerful dictatorship doesn't make you a good country, it just makes you a powerful dictatorship, its same as promoting Nazi Germany on their best period. Title: Re: US is so poor that president trump constantly attack China. Post by: abhiseshakana on May 18, 2020, 07:17:13 PM China is very clever, they grab all the raw resources from the 3rd world countries and then turn that into products to sell it back to the 3rd world countries and even the USA for a massive profit. Their workforce in China is very disciplined and hard working and also cheaper than first world workers in countries like the USA with all their Unions and human right and basic conditions of employment requirements. ::) The people in the US are getting massive salaries, compared to workers doing the same work in the USA. So you cannot blame China for using their own cheaper workforce and also investing into their own economy. ::) Business with China is divided into two, namely business with private Chinese usually for domestic Chinese business and business with Chinese State-Owned Enterprises for trade affairs or projects outside China. What is scary is that China makes it look like a developed country with a lot of development, but development is not followed by economic growth. Because China regulates that as little money as possible spin outside China. China built several infrastructure projects in Indonesia, namely the nickel and other rare metals processing smelters. When the smelter construction project began, the majority of project materials such as machinery, furnaces, and even steam power plants were all prepared by China, even the workers who carried out construction work ranging from workers to expert technicians, all from China. China lobbies with Indonesian officials to regulate the procedure for exporting and buying and selling metals rarely to make it profitable and allow China to monopolize. The raw material for infrastructure projects from China means that China's industry is moving and the surplus continues. Then the logistics side both domestic and the cross country also moves. Workers are also required from China on the pretext that those who understand the technology are the Chinese people. Then China made the Indonesian government issued a ban on the export of raw metals which directly means Chinese smelter companies in Indonesia can buy, of course, at low prices. While Indonesia where the project exists and the smelter stands only get the dirt of Chinese people who live in Indonesia and a little turnover of money to pay for routine Indonesian overhead. The title is the mega smelter project in Indonesia, but in reality, the money is revolving in China, not in Indonesia. So that the more prosperous the Chinese. Developing countries are just wondering what happened. Title: Re: US is so poor that president trump constantly attack China. Post by: The Sceptical Chymist on May 18, 2020, 09:08:45 PM US is so poor that president trump constantly attack China. Because China is so rich that they can buy the entire Africa, they can buy the entire existing technology, they can invest into best new talents, they can invest into 5G, 6G, 7G, they can build the best spaceship with all the income they received from tax money. I'm being honest here, I don't have the attention span (or even the necessary interest) to read a long rant like the OP here. But Trump attacking China doesn't really have much to do with how each country's economy is performing relative to each other--nor is the United States "poor".I don't know what the real truth is behind how this strain of coronavirus got released into the world, but if it originated in China then that's what happened. Trump is being unreasonably antagonistic every time he refers to COVID-19 as "the Chinese virus" even if it's true. If we eventually find out that the virus was released maliciously or there was some sort of coverup, then that's another discussion but as of now not all the facts are known. I'm not a big fan of China, believe me, but I'm not going to pretend that I'm outraged that the outbreak started there. Title: Re: US is so poor that president trump constantly attack China. Post by: figmentofmyass on May 18, 2020, 10:05:41 PM chinese labor isn't that cheap anymore, but it's still cheaper than american. Nope, Chinese is not cheap, it’s the US who’s cheap. Chinese are the most expensive talent to hire. Many Chinese are highly paid than many US cheap CEO.i'm not sure what kind of "talent" you mean, but i thought we were talking about manufacturing labor costs. in china, labor cost is estimated to be around $6.50/hour. https://www.statista.com/statistics/744071/manufacturing-labor-costs-per-hour-china-vietnam-mexico/ in the USA, the median wage for manufacturing workers is $16.26/hour. even the lowest paid 10% earns $9.77/hour. https://www.bls.gov/oes/current/oes519199.htm chinese labor has become more expensive than mexico, vietnam, or bangladesh but definitely not the USA. Title: Re: US is so poor that president trump constantly attack China. Post by: SuperBowl1984 on May 18, 2020, 11:49:09 PM ^China is a tax free country for income group $520 to $745
Please use after tax income to calculate. In China $745 is the take home income and zero taxation. China has too much money surplus they don’t need tax to fund the government operation. China is a communist country, everybody is equal, nobody can be too wealthy, government can confiscated all the money and execute anybody who is unreasonably wealthy, sad to say this but it’s completely oppose to capitalism, it’s a crime to be ultra-rich in China. And yeah all the US ultra wealthy government officials will not survive in China without getting executed, you better be very scared to come to China. In US, low income poor people paid the most in tax while rich people pay zero tax. In China, big business rich people pay the most in tax while poor people pay zero tax. Title: Re: US is so poor that president trump constantly attack China. Post by: Reatim on May 19, 2020, 05:28:47 AM ^China is a tax free country for income group $520 to $745 For all the discussion above ,may i ask you mate what is the purpose of this thread?you seems to be pushing China against US for what matters are you doing this?Please use after tax income to calculate. In China $745 is the take home income and zero taxation. China has too much money surplus they don’t need tax to fund the government operation. China is a communist country, everybody is equal, nobody can be too wealthy, government can confiscated all the money and execute anybody who is unreasonably wealthy, sad to say this but it’s completely oppose to capitalism, it’s a crime to be ultra-rich in China. And yeah all the US ultra wealthy government officials will not survive in China without getting executed, you better be very scared to come to China. In US, low income poor people paid the most in tax while rich people pay zero tax. In China, big business rich people pay the most in tax while poor people pay zero tax. And also you have chosen to make such thread while the whole world is under pandemic and hundred of thousands people are dying? Is this the right time for politics?maybe better to pause your ranting first and “HELP PEOPLE NOW BEFORE BRINGING ANOTHER ISSUE” because the world needs help now and not anything more. Title: Re: US is so poor that president trump constantly attack China. Post by: maxdin on May 19, 2020, 06:13:00 AM ^China is a tax free country for income group $520 to $745 You are right about US being one of the most capitalistic countries and about China being almost the complete opposite of it, the communist country.Please use after tax income to calculate. In China $745 is the take home income and zero taxation. China has too much money surplus they don’t need tax to fund the government operation. China is a communist country, everybody is equal, nobody can be too wealthy, government can confiscated all the money and execute anybody who is unreasonably wealthy, sad to say this but it’s completely oppose to capitalism, it’s a crime to be ultra-rich in China. And yeah all the US ultra wealthy government officials will not survive in China without getting executed, you better be very scared to come to China. In US, low income poor people paid the most in tax while rich people pay zero tax. In China, big business rich people pay the most in tax while poor people pay zero tax. However, I don't understand what it has to do with "be very scared to come to China" which is nonsense, it is still a country with open borders. And I would like to inform you - US taxes are based on % of your income, so no matter what your salary/profit is you are going to pay some percentage from it. Its not like every person is paying $100 every month because, as you said, this would lead to poor people paying the most in tax. Title: Re: US is so poor that president trump constantly attack China. Post by: Negotiation on May 19, 2020, 07:43:05 AM ^China is a tax free country for income group $520 to $745 You are right about US being one of the most capitalistic countries and about China being almost the complete opposite of it, the communist country.Please use after tax income to calculate. In China $745 is the take home income and zero taxation. China has too much money surplus they don’t need tax to fund the government operation. China is a communist country, everybody is equal, nobody can be too wealthy, government can confiscated all the money and execute anybody who is unreasonably wealthy, sad to say this but it’s completely oppose to capitalism, it’s a crime to be ultra-rich in China. And yeah all the US ultra wealthy government officials will not survive in China without getting executed, you better be very scared to come to China. In US, low income poor people paid the most in tax while rich people pay zero tax. In China, big business rich people pay the most in tax while poor people pay zero tax. However, I don't understand what it has to do with "be very scared to come to China" which is nonsense, it is still a country with open borders. And I would like to inform you - US taxes are based on % of your income, so no matter what your salary/profit is you are going to pay some percentage from it. Its not like every person is paying $100 every month because, as you said, this would lead to poor people paying the most in tax. You are right the capitalist society pays more taxes than the poor because of the system Capitalists oppress and exploit the poor in various ways They pay taxes and subsidize the government by taking taxes from them. China is usually responsible for many things but they keep everything secret There are more communism and capitalism in China than in the United States. The rich can pay taxes on their income but not the poor They do not get the minimum value of their income. Title: Re: US is so poor that president trump constantly attack China. Post by: Cnut237 on May 19, 2020, 07:56:06 AM US is so poor that president trump constantly attack China. Disagree. I think he's attacking China because:1) He's trying to deflect attention away from his own mishandling of the pandemic by shifting blame onto someone else. He does have a history of this sort of behaviour. 2) This is an election year, and bellicose posturing against an external antagonist plays well with the electorate. Trump is incompetent (https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-52407177) and divisive, and is diminishing US standing in the world. I would imagine that opponents of the US, principally China and Russia, desperately want him to win the election... so despite him attacking China, it makes perfect sense for China to want him to win again. For all his talk of economic war against China, the two countries are inextricably intertwined and their economies hugely interdependent, if one attacks the other then they damage themselves, too. Title: Re: US is so poor that president trump constantly attack China. Post by: bits4books on May 19, 2020, 01:43:28 PM Well, Trump have to work out his political platform somehow - so old Donald is trying to bite China.
But the main reason as for me is an old as the world and straight from the 20th century confrontation -capitalism VS communism. Even if China is not a Communist country (and it is not because there is state capitalism) the country is still ruled by an authoritarian Communist party (at least by name). No one wants a revival of the USSR in version 2.0 - with narrow eyes and an industry capable of producing anything including thermonuclear bombs and trillions of bullets. The fact that Trump constantly snaps at China is one of the parts of the same and many disliked containment policy where on the one hand we have democracy, AR-15 and military bases around the world and on the other hand - red flags, incredible industrial potential and probability of making Africa yellow. Bipolar world is still here Title: Re: US is so poor that president trump constantly attack China. Post by: SuperBowl1984 on May 19, 2020, 09:09:22 PM ^ im leaving this thread here, to set a precedent to the reader from the future, any reply that’s trying to divert attention wouldn’t get entertained, call me misogyny all you want.
Title: Re: US is so poor that president trump constantly attack China. Post by: ShowOff on May 19, 2020, 09:23:43 PM It always becomes complicated if we debate and provide views for these two countries. Economic war between the two countries above has always been an extraordinary thing to show the world who is really in power.
I will read more about them, politics, economics, accusations will always make their problems always complicated. Title: Re: US is so poor that president trump constantly attack China. Post by: FanatMonet on May 19, 2020, 10:38:56 PM And do not answer the question? If the US is so poor and China is so rich, then why are American companies placing their manufacturing facilities in China, and not vice versa? So do not confuse the concept, if China is robbing its citizens, then it is not rich, but simply greedy.
Title: Re: US is so poor that president trump constantly attack China. Post by: figmentofmyass on May 19, 2020, 10:58:47 PM ^China is a tax free country for income group $520 to $745 Please use after tax income to calculate. In China $745 is the take home income and zero taxation. whether workers are taxed on their take-home income doesn't change the initial cost of labor to manufacturers. even if we do account for this: the standard deduction is $12200 for individuals in the USA. that means the first $12200 is not taxable. based on your numbers, for typical chinese manufacturing laborers, the first 115 hours are not taxed. for typical american manufacturing laborers, the first 750 hours are not taxed. without researching the actual tax rates (they both have progressive income taxes topping out at 45% and 37% respectively) that implies american workers are paid even higher when considering take-home pay. In China, big business rich people pay the most in tax while poor people pay zero tax. it all comes down to profitability. china has big corporate tax loopholes just like the USA. if it wasn't profitable to manufacture there then businesses would leave. it's that simple. Title: Re: US is so poor that president trump constantly attack China. Post by: SuperBowl1984 on May 20, 2020, 06:19:05 AM ^Due to predatory nature of capitalism, businesses are leaving for communism, despite higher tax rate for the business, Apple getting oppressed badly in Commie but they refuse to leave, Toyota to deepen tie and increase investment in Commies, blizzard to ban and censor hatred speech targeting Commies, and Commies refuse to export anything to the rest of the world, they consume whatever they can produce or manufactured, and it’s much cheaper to consume your own goods. Communism for the poor people to pay zero tax and rich business people pay highest tax. Capitalism for the rich businesses people to pay zero tax and the poor people to pay highest tax.
Communism, after tax income is $750. Capitalism, after tax income is $2000 minus 50% in various taxes. US very poor, many homeless, many people depend on welfare to survive. There is no number, there is no facts, there is no proof, there is no news. Latest being Commies buyout more and more capitalism IP rights. Pay rent on the IP commission, royalty, capitalism to pay more to Commies. Title: Re: US is so poor that president trump constantly attack China. Post by: Haunebu on May 20, 2020, 07:52:28 AM ^ yeah that’s it, that’s how president trump are feeling right now, president trump get so mad because it’s you who also behave like president trump. So mad that he want to ban China, so mad that you want to ban me, why can’t discuss about US debt in this section? Is it a moderated keyword? Admin can clarify? You start this whole debate about China being better than the US and are now getting mad that I am blaming China? Seriously? This is obviously a political discussion which is why I mentioned that the Politics section is probably the right section for this topic.Majority of the world hates the Chinese government right now(Not just Trump) and that is a fact. I hate how the Chinese government takes away the freedom of their citizens by banning popular apps regularly. Also, the recent Hong Kong protests in 2019 clearly indicate the issues with the Chinese government. Both the US and Chinese governments have their fair share of issues, but the US government is better overall in my opinion Title: Re: US is so poor that president trump constantly attack China. Post by: stompix on May 23, 2020, 02:23:35 PM China has too much money surplus they don’t need tax to fund the government operation. Boy, you have no idea what you're talking about! China has continuously run a budget deficit for a decade: https://i.imgur.com/PaiE8Iw.png China is a communist country, everybody is equal, nobody can be too wealthy, government can confiscated all the money and execute anybody who is unreasonably wealthy, sad to say this but it’s completely oppose to capitalism, it’s a crime to be ultra-rich in China. In 2019 China had over 300 billionaires which put the country second in the world, after the United States (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Chinese_by_net_worth) China own nearly all US debt Again BS: https://i.imgur.com/4TBBEQB.jpg You have no idea what you're talking about, you don't understand the difference between communism and an authority single-party rule, you have never bothered to look at real data about China, nor its tax system nor its wealthiest elite and the discrepancy there, you are just shouting around things that make ZERO sense. So, how about you stop?!!! Title: Re: US is so poor that president trump constantly attack China. Post by: Sirait on May 23, 2020, 11:02:10 PM Are you a Chinese citizen? Cold war or trade war that is going on between China and America is inevitable, both countries want to show that they are the strongest, the corona outbreak that is currently sweeping has increased tensions between the two countries
Do you believe China is strong? Do you believe that America is a sad country? you should change your mindset Title: Re: US is so poor that president trump constantly attack China. Post by: 7788bitcoin on May 23, 2020, 11:42:46 PM US is so poor that president trump constantly attack China. Because China is so rich that they can buy the entire Africa, they can buy the entire existing technology, they can invest into best new talents, they can invest into 5G, 6G, 7G, they can build the best spaceship with all the income they received from tax money. The investment part is true, the Chinese government is investing in many countries in the name of companies but the situation is they are trying to have a foothold in the country in the name of investment :P. Globally this is not the best time to brag about the Chinese power as most of the companies from China spend the income tax they received from new apple iPhone sale to acquire new technology, buy poor country, buy young talents, funding educations, funding new technology. Also income tax from many major US based tech company that operate in China, they all pay tax to China government like an overjoyed lapping puppy. different countries are planning to shit their business from China and if these companies that invested in many countries are proven to be government funded to spy on them, then they will face the consequences. Title: Re: US is so poor that president trump constantly attack China. Post by: SuperBowl1984 on May 25, 2020, 07:10:37 PM China has too much money surplus they don’t need tax to fund the government operation. Boy, you have no idea what you're talking about! China has continuously run a budget deficit for a decade: https://i.imgur.com/PaiE8Iw.png China is a communist country, everybody is equal, nobody can be too wealthy, government can confiscated all the money and execute anybody who is unreasonably wealthy, sad to say this but it’s completely oppose to capitalism, it’s a crime to be ultra-rich in China. In 2019 China had over 300 billionaires which put the country second in the world, after the United States (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Chinese_by_net_worth) China own nearly all US debt Again BS: https://i.imgur.com/4TBBEQB.jpg You have no idea what you're talking about, you don't understand the difference between communism and an authority single-party rule, you have never bothered to look at real data about China, nor its tax system nor its wealthiest elite and the discrepancy there, you are just shouting around things that make ZERO sense. So, how about you stop?!!! So you want more data and facts? Read that TLDR. Quote it's monday may 18 2020. 00:04 the markets went absolutely gangbusters 00:06 today 00:08 everything up across the board what i 00:10 thought was interesting 00:12 was the dow jones and the number that 00:14 the dow jones closed the dow jones 00:16 closed 00:17 positive up 911 00:21 points i thought that was a very 00:23 interesting number 00:24 for the dow jones to be closing out 00:26 today but we know 00:28 that everything is up across the board 00:29 because of the continued 00:31 money printing the fed uh buying 00:34 trillions of dollars 00:35 of corporate debt zero percent interest 00:38 rates 00:39 uh the money printing continues but 00:41 there was more good news with 00:42 a pharmaceutical company called moderna 00:45 they said that 00:46 that phase one results were very 00:49 positive and and so are we now going to 00:52 be entering the summer where 00:55 we're back to phase ones and phase twos 00:57 and phase threes last summer 00:59 it was phase one with china now 01:02 it's going to be phase one with 01:04 pharmaceutical companies 01:05 it just seems that these markets are 01:07 looking for any any 01:09 positive news in order to have these 01:12 huge 01:12 surges but at the same time 01:15 i went out this afternoon and had to 01:17 take care of some business i was in 01:18 downtown palm springs 01:20 and it is a tragedy 01:24 and i don't know what things are like in 01:26 your area but 01:27 from what i can tell from the thousands 01:29 of people that have been commenting down 01:31 below things are not much better 01:33 where you live but as i as i was in 01:35 downtown palm springs today 01:38 nobody walking around uh very few cars 01:40 down there 01:42 the restaurants that were open were 01:43 takeout only all the retailers continue 01:45 to be closed the resorts are closed 01:48 and uh again it's it's just a complete 01:51 tragedy 01:52 um and how we come out of this i have 01:55 no idea but you know 01:58 watching the markets skyrocket today 02:02 you would think that these were the most 02:03 incredible economic times 02:05 in history they are the worst economic 02:08 times 02:09 in our history we have nearly half of 02:11 this country now working 02:12 unemployment hovering around 40 percent 02:15 the real unemployment numbers are around 02:16 40 percent yes 02:18 yet the stock market is 02:21 soaring unbelievable it's historic times 02:26 again half of americans not working we 02:28 have a frozen economy 02:30 massive debts and deficits continue 02:33 manufacturing at all-time lows 02:37 the industrial numbers at all-time lows 02:40 5 million 02:41 homes in forbearance but 02:44 dow jones up nearly a thousand points 02:46 today 02:48 wow the fed's balance sheet is now 02:51 entering 7 trillion dollars 02:55 you know i just looked at some of the 02:58 numbers comparing 03:00 2020 back to the last financial crisis 03:04 that occurred in 2008 during the great 03:06 recession 03:07 the fed did qe3 quantitative easing 03:11 it was expanding the balance sheet by 80 03:13 billion 03:14 dollars a month we just did 212 03:18 billion dollars in one week 03:21 the highest balance the highest the 03:23 balance sheet got during 03:24 the last crisis was 4.5 trillion dollars 03:28 today we're at around 6.95 03:31 trillion you might as well just round 03:33 that off to seven trillion dollars 03:34 because that's about where we're going 03:35 to be tomorrow 03:38 so i mean it's 03:41 absolutely unquestionable that 03:46 we are witnessing the worst 03:49 economic collapse in u.s history the 03:52 worst u.s 03:53 economy in our history and yet the stock 03:56 market continues to soar 04:00 i read an article today with peter 04:01 schiff he made a couple really good 04:02 points he says we're we are going to see 04:05 big increases in consumer prices because 04:08 of all this money printing because of 04:10 all this debt 04:10 we're going to have to deal with the 04:13 consequences 04:14 of all of this money the fed is printing 04:18 right now and all the money 04:19 that they printed back in 2008 and nine 04:23 during the last financial crisis 04:26 we have not even begun to pay for all 04:29 that money printing yet 04:30 and we're about to many people are 04:32 convinced we can print 04:34 all this money and run massive deficits 04:36 with no problems because 04:38 we have gotten away with it for this 04:40 long 04:41 this is a very dangerous assumption says 04:44 peter schiff 04:45 this collapse is sneaking up 04:49 on a lot of people here because i i read 04:51 people 04:52 in a lot of the economic forums 04:55 and people are still oblivious they're 04:57 gonna look 04:58 at the television today they're gonna 05:00 see that the dow jones was up nearly a 05:01 thousand points and they're gonna 05:03 believe 05:03 everything is okay while they're sitting 05:05 at home with no job 05:07 while they're sitting in a frozen 05:08 economy while they're sitting and 05:10 waiting for a stimulus check to pay 05:12 their bills 05:13 they believe everything is okay because 05:15 wall street is up 05:16 today dow jones up nearly a thousand 05:19 points 05:20 they don't get that wall street and main 05:22 street are 05:23 completely disconnected they don't get 05:25 that they're not a part 05:27 of wall street remember it's not a 05:30 crisis 05:30 until it becomes a crisis 05:33 social security and pensions are going 05:36 to get vaporized because 05:38 of the atrocities that are being taken 05:42 that are taking place right now no doubt 05:44 about it 05:45 this money is going to have to be paid 05:47 back somehow they're going to rob 05:49 continue to rob social security they're 05:52 going to be robbing your pensions 05:54 because this money look remember nothing 05:56 is 05:57 free that balance sheet is now 05:59 approaching seven 06:00 trillion dollars no doubt going to blow 06:03 past 10 trillion dollars 06:05 we're looking at these uh state and 06:07 local 06:08 municipalities going absolutely broke 06:10 cities like chicago 06:12 states like california now running huge 06:15 deficits 06:17 they're going to need bailouts 06:19 corporations need bailouts 06:21 households need bailouts cities 06:24 need bailouts states everybody needs 06:27 money 06:28 so what do you think is going to happen 06:30 here 06:31 they're going to continue to print to 06:33 try to save everything and by doing so 06:36 they are going to 06:36 implode our currency we are going to see 06:40 a venezuela zimbabwe type event right 06:43 here in america and i know there's 06:45 people out there laughing but those are 06:46 the same people 06:48 that laughed when we talked about 06:49 negative interest rates coming to 06:51 america 06:51 i wouldn't laugh about that because i'd 06:53 say 06:55 with within a less than a year somewhere 06:58 in 2021 we are going to see 07:00 negative rates right here in america and 07:02 we may see them by the end of this year 07:04 but 07:04 i believe at some point in 2021 we are 07:07 going to see 07:08 negative interest rates at the latest we 07:10 could see them 07:11 in 2020 but a lot of those people aren't 07:13 laughing now 07:14 because this market is up today not just 07:18 because 07:18 the fed is buying corporate debt not 07:20 because the fed is injecting billions 07:22 upon billions of dollars into the repo 07:24 market 07:25 uh not because the feds has slammed 07:27 rates to zero 07:30 not because of just all that 07:33 but they're also going to lower 07:37 rates to negative okay we are going 07:40 negative and these 07:41 markets know that they understand that 07:43 they are pricing it in 07:44 and as as the fed chairman came out 07:48 and said the other day that he does he 07:50 doesn't expect things 07:51 to get better or to improve in this 07:53 economy until 2021 07:55 so this whole thing is going to be on 07:56 cruise control right these markets know 07:59 that the fed is going to print massive 08:01 amounts of money to limp 08:03 this whole thing along the training 08:05 wheels are not coming off 08:06 anytime soon and so these markets know 08:09 it they understand 08:10 zero percent interest rates going 08:12 negative knowing that the fed 08:14 is going to print as much money as they 08:17 need 08:18 to continue to kick this can down the 08:20 road to limp this thing down the road 08:22 as long as it can it's not a crisis 08:25 until 08:26 it becomes a crisis and i promise you 08:30 this is going to become a crisis take 08:33 a good look at what's happening in your 08:35 areas take a good look at what's 08:37 happening 08:38 in your personal financial households 08:42 i just cannot believe people do not see 08:44 this people 08:45 being paid to stay at home we're bailing 08:48 out corporations 08:50 uh we're bailing we're going to be 08:52 bailing out states 08:53 we're buying corporate debt zero percent 08:55 interest rates 08:56 do you really think does anybody out 08:59 there really believe that this is going 09:00 to end well 09:01 this is really dangerous stuff that is 09:04 taking place 09:06 and there's still people out there 09:07 ignoring it laughing at it 09:09 but the same people laughing at it are 09:10 the same people again 09:12 sitting at home waiting for their their 09:14 stimulus check waiting for the 09:15 unemployment check while they sit at 09:17 home 09:18 and more than likely not having a job to 09:20 return 09:21 to but they don't know that yet but 09:23 they're going to find out the hard way 09:24 when their pensions 09:25 get annihilated when the stimulus checks 09:28 and the unemployment run out 09:30 and they have no other options when they 09:32 go through whatever 09:33 life savings that they have when they go 09:35 through the retirements 09:37 everything they have everything they 09:38 saved up for when it's vaporized 09:41 then they're going to go oh my gosh 09:44 what am i going to do i was reading a 09:46 few articles this morning 09:48 wow the stock market was going ballistic 09:51 i want to share these articles with you 09:54 and try to make sense of this we are 09:56 watching the dow jones 09:58 uh it actually surged over a thousand 10:00 over a thousand points 10:02 at one point today while uber to cut 10:05 3000 10:05 more jobs this is on cnbc today 10:09 you get a chance check that out may 6 10:13 uber cut 3700 employees today they 10:17 announced they're going to cut 10:18 an additional three thousand so just in 10:20 the month of may 10:22 uber will have cut 25 percent 10:25 of its workforce just in may and the dow 10:28 jones 10:29 was surging past a thousand points 10:31 earlier today 10:33 wow uber continues to cut people here's 10:35 another article survey thirty percent of 10:37 americans have rated retirement 10:39 savings uh so again 10:43 this is a real reflection of what's 10:46 happening in the real economy not the 10:47 illusion we call the stock market not 10:50 a ponzi scheme and remember all ponzi 10:52 schemes 10:53 end and they end pretty badly and 10:56 this one is going to end very badly 10:59 let me continue with this article 3 in 11:01 10 americans have dipped 11:03 into the retirement savings to help 11:05 cover expenses 11:07 uh boy i guess they're not making a ton 11:09 of money in the market look 11:10 i'm not against anybody being in the 11:12 market i'm completely out of these 11:14 markets 11:15 um i'm a spectator at this at this point 11:18 uh 11:18 you know on the outside looking in i 11:20 have no ambition 11:22 to be playing these markets right now if 11:25 you are 11:25 i hope you're making a lot of money and 11:27 i hope that you're taking 11:29 that paper fiat monopoly money and i 11:31 hope you're buying real hard assets 11:33 because you're going to need them 11:34 when this whole thing comes tumbling 11:36 down 11:38 the average withdrawal between march 11:42 1st and may 1st was 6757.20 11:48 about a third have tapped into another 11:50 investment account 11:51 instead of the retirement account people 11:54 are making withdrawals to cover expenses 11:57 and many are doing this to help with the 12:00 loss 12:01 of a job i you know again there are 12:04 people out there that think that this 12:05 economy is soaring because the stock 12:07 market is moving back 12:09 up although 40 unemployment 12:14 um is a horrific economy we are we are 12:17 looking at depressionary 12:18 type numbers even worse yet there are 12:21 people who believe everything is okay 12:23 because the stock market 12:24 is going up and they don't understand 12:26 that the stock market is an illusion it 12:28 is a ticking time bomb 12:29 and we are all going to pay a severe 12:32 price 12:33 severe consequences because of the 12:35 propping up of these 12:36 markets because of the massive 12:38 quantitative easing the money printing 12:40 the zero percent interest rates the 12:43 corporate buybacks 12:44 uh all the manipulation 12:47 asset values uh you name it 12:51 we're gonna pay a price for all of this 12:54 criminality 12:55 that is taking place just so that a few 12:57 people 12:58 can make money in these markets 13:02 here's another article on cnbc today 13:05 and it's talking about uh how it is 13:07 going to be 13:08 much harder for millions of of americans 13:11 to retire and we have to remember that 13:15 most 13:15 americans do not even have anything 13:19 in retirement there's a great percentage 13:22 of people here in america that have 13:24 absolutely zero zero money 13:27 in retirement and half of this country 13:30 has very 13:31 very little in retirement and most of 13:34 this country doesn't 13:35 have enough to retire on and when you 13:37 take into account inflation 13:40 real inflation which is around 10 a year 13:43 if you're just sitting on cash expecting 13:46 to retire 13:47 on forty or fifty thousand dollars in 13:49 your 401k you are going to get 13:51 obliterated 13:52 the recession is making life even more 13:54 uncertain and more difficult for people 13:56 in their 13:57 in their 50s 60s and 70s another 3.1 14:00 million workers are going to be pushed 14:02 into poverty 14:03 in their retirement many won't get back 14:06 into the labor force 14:08 or it will take too long to get another 14:10 job that means 14:11 they'll draw down on the retirement 14:13 savings they may go into debt 14:15 they will more than likely apply apply 14:17 for social security 14:19 even earlier people who are middle class 14:22 workers right now 14:23 will be poor retirees for the rest 14:27 of their lives another article on cnbc 14:31 it's 14:32 it's trying times for us auto suppliers 14:34 as plants reopen 14:35 the industry needs at least 20 billion 14:38 dollars 14:43 and again this government is going to 14:45 print more money 14:46 uh to continue more bailouts 14:50 and people just believe that this money 14:53 uh is just printed out of thin air that 14:56 it never has to be paid back that it's 14:58 never going to have any effect on 15:00 purchasing power 15:02 that it's never going to have any effect 15:03 on your life but every time you go into 15:05 the grocery store 15:07 every time you look at the price of an 15:09 automobile the price of 15:10 rent the price of health care um while 15:13 you're earning zero percent 15:15 interest on your money at the bank 15:18 take a take a real look at reality and 15:21 please tell me that there's no inflation 15:24 public companies face little risk of 15:25 punishment for taking triple p loans 15:27 legal experts say cnbc today 15:32 again tons of money printing 15:35 [Applause] 15:36 big companies cheating they have the 15:39 resources 15:40 they have the money they have the the 15:42 the legal teams 15:44 to tap into those resources while the 15:46 little guy like 15:47 the little people in downtown palm 15:48 springs the little people in palm desert 15:51 uh the little restaurant owners they 15:53 don't have the tools the resources 15:56 or the money to tap in 15:59 like the big boys do and this this is 16:03 you know like we just have 16:06 i think no idea 16:10 how bad this is going to be look 16:15 i i'm happy that we are starting to see 16:17 parts of the country open up 16:19 but they're not really opening up when 16:22 vegas opens up 16:23 people wearing masks buffets closed 16:26 restaurants close bars close 16:28 fewer tables fewer seats 16:33 means fewer people and 16:36 all this distancing all these rules and 16:38 regulations uh that that's going to go 16:40 you know into uh areas like las vegas 16:44 you know how do the resort towns come 16:46 back from this 16:47 how do they survive how do the 16:49 restaurants survive 16:50 uh we're not gonna really know how 16:53 severe all this is 16:54 until the beginning of fall that's 16:56 that's 16:58 what i truly believe that's that that's 17:00 around the time period i believe we're 17:02 gonna start really seeing 17:04 the damage that's being done right now 17:07 we haven't seen the damage 17:09 yet hedge today dying 17:12 economy and this was a really good 17:16 article 17:18 with rob kiyosaki he says this 17:21 his fear of a dying economy 17:25 has led him to purchase three assets 17:28 gold silver and bitcoin 17:31 says here fed is incompetent next 17:34 bailout trillions 17:35 in pensions hope fading that was a tweet 17:38 by rob kiyosaki 17:40 he endorses bitcoin for one reason it's 17:43 not part of the system 17:45 he noted gold and silver god's money 17:50 his best advice is this get out of 17:53 the system so i'm going to wrap it up 17:56 today but i think 17:57 rob kiyosaki said it best get out of 18:00 the system and look if you're in the 18:02 system if you're in these markets and 18:04 you're making money 18:05 god bless you but i hope that you take 18:07 some of that fiat 18:09 paper monopoly money and buy some gold 18:12 and some silver and even some bitcoin 18:14 to protect yourself now me personally 18:16 i'm not a bitcoin guy i'm not a crypto 18:18 guy 18:19 i'm very old school if you don't hold it 18:21 you don't own it that's why i like cash 18:23 that's why i like gold that's why i like 18:25 silver 18:25 because i can put these assets in 18:27 different physical locations 18:29 and have access to them in a time of 18:32 need in an emergency 18:34 as most of you know i'll be heading out 18:37 to texas 18:38 shortly and i will be putting assets 18:41 gold 18:42 silver cash in that location 18:45 also just as i have in multiple 18:48 locations here in california 18:49 so having the freedom of that 18:52 accessibility 18:54 and being able to spread out the assets 18:56 uh 18:57 gives me a a a feeling of security 19:00 a peace of mind whereas with a crypto 19:04 if this if the power goes out if the 19:07 internet goes out 19:08 if there's a cyber attack if there's an 19:10 emp if there's a hack 19:12 there's a lot of things that can happen 19:15 where i don't have control 19:18 whereas if i can drive to one of my 19:21 california locations 19:23 or if i can get on a plane or drive to 19:25 texas i 19:26 have assets there so just having that 19:29 peace of mind 19:30 of having that physical ability to touch 19:34 those 19:35 assets gives me personally 19:38 a very secure feeling but that's just me 19:42 i don't give financial advice i'm not 19:44 telling anybody what to do that's just 19:45 me if you believe 19:47 wholeheartedly in the cryptos more power 19:50 to you i'm not here to judge anybody or 19:52 tell you what to do 19:53 uh and i'm certainly not against the 19:54 cryptos i think they have their place 19:57 but i'm very old school if you don't 19:58 hold it you don't own it that's why i 20:01 don't like 20:01 banks because when you need 20:04 your money you're not going to be able 20:07 to access it 20:08 just like when you need to access a 401k 20:12 or a money market there's these huge 20:13 penalties or 20:15 if things get really bad they have to 20:17 shut everything down 20:19 until everything levels out everything 20:22 cools down 20:22 before they even allow access that 20:24 happened back in 2008 where people 20:26 couldn't access 20:27 their money because things were so out 20:30 of control that they just shut 20:31 everything down for 20:32 a short period of time atms out here 20:36 shut down 20:36 i've seen banks out here shut down so 20:38 when you're reliant 20:40 on a financial institution whether 20:42 that's a bank or an atm 20:44 or your 401k uh your money market or 20:47 whatever financial institution you're in 20:49 um you don't have the ability to just 20:52 walk over somewhere 20:53 drive over somewhere and get your money 20:55 i do 20:56 and i like that feeling because i'm my 20:58 own central 20:59 bank so i don't plan on being locked out 21:02 of a 401k because i don't have one 21:04 i don't have to worry about getting 21:05 locked out of an atm 21:07 or a bank uh because i'm my own central 21:09 bank 21:10 and that's just me and that gives me a 21:13 real 21:13 good piece of mind so 21:16 the farther and more detached you get 21:18 out of the system 21:20 the more you act as your own central 21:22 bank the more power 21:24 you have the more control you have and 21:27 the less 21:27 power and less control these financial 21:30 institutions and these banks have 21:32 over you please pray for this country 21:35 this economy is decaying and it's going 21:38 to affect 21:39 the lives of millions of people many 21:41 people you know 21:42 and i know we're seeing an uptick in 21:45 suicide 21:47 alcoholism drug use crime 21:51 domestic abuse divorce 21:54 etc these are going to be very 21:58 turbulent times in america and 22:02 we all have a fiduciary duty a 22:04 responsibility to 22:05 to to be checking on our friends and in 22:08 our family members look a text message 22:11 and a phone call 22:12 call goes a long way so make sure you 22:14 reach out 22:15 to your friends your family members 22:17 because you know 22:19 we don't really know what's going on 22:20 behind closed doors we don't know how 22:22 bad things 22:23 really are and and so it's just good to 22:26 check on people 22:27 because this is really going to be 22:31 a hard time uh for a lot of people here 22:34 in america so make sure you check in on 22:36 your friends and family members 22:38 and um please make sure that 22:41 you um give this video a thumbs up share 22:44 it with everybody you know you don't 22:45 know put it all over your social media 22:47 and please make sure you subscribe to 22:49 this channel so that you get the newest 22:51 video when it comes out god bless all of 22:54 you 22:55 thanks for taking a few minutes out of 22:56 your busy day today to watch this video 22:59 god bless every one of you talk to you 23:00 very soon English (auto-generated) Title: Re: US is so poor that president trump constantly attack China. Post by: SuperBowl1984 on May 25, 2020, 07:21:16 PM ^Pardon not gonna entertain the replies who want to question whether you’re American Chinese or Chinese American or American American or China Chinese or white American or black American. They’re bunch of delusional who is living in the shadow of trump, the hired keyboard warriors and racists.
Title: Re: US is so poor that president trump constantly attack China. Post by: SuperBowl1984 on May 26, 2020, 09:07:16 PM US is so poor that president trump constantly attack China. Because China is so rich that they can buy the entire Africa, they can buy the entire existing technology, they can invest into best new talents, they can invest into 5G, 6G, 7G, they can build the best spaceship with all the income they received from tax money. The investment part is true, the Chinese government is investing in many countries in the name of companies but the situation is they are trying to have a foothold in the country in the name of investment :P. Globally this is not the best time to brag about the Chinese power as most of the companies from China spend the income tax they received from new apple iPhone sale to acquire new technology, buy poor country, buy young talents, funding educations, funding new technology. Also income tax from many major US based tech company that operate in China, they all pay tax to China government like an overjoyed lapping puppy. different countries are planning to shit their business from China and if these companies that invested in many countries are proven to be government funded to spy on them, then they will face the consequences. Read some unbiased review from independent content makers from this guy. Jesse Appell SUBSCRIBE 26.5K subscribers Barrett SUBSCRIBE 102K subscribers Brennasphere SUBSCRIBE 37.7K subscribers Jerry Kowal 我是郭杰瑞 SUBSCRIBE 458K subscribers https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ZFA5Rax0ypU 美国人为何没什么存款，很多人真拿不出400美元？ Why American have no saving. Do they can’t afford a 400 dollar setback? Hey!Tobi SUBSCRIBE 47.7K subscribers https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=FHOESL9mRdY 公开普通德国人的工资。月入3万，为什么存不下钱？ Expose German salary men pay check. With income 30k, why (they) have no saving? 英国OMG SUBSCRIBE 86K subscribers Reporterfy Media & Travel SUBSCRIBE 19.3K subscribers https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=XlOuWwBxQr0 Is China The American Dream ? : Chongqing China 重庆市 Title: Re: US is so poor that president trump constantly attack China. Post by: omone1 on May 27, 2020, 07:39:01 AM US is so poor that president trump constantly attack China. Because China is so rich that they can buy the entire Africa, Maybe you should sell your heritage to China and become their slave. I see this post as shitty and lacking in Merit, yju want China to buy Africa and enslave the people? Don't you know how to make a good reportage? The best thing to have happened to the USA and the world at Large at this moment is President Donald Trump. I am sure you love to live under the lordship of the North Korea little rocket man, because China is funding his weapon of mass destruction while his people are slaves in his our country. Without USA I believe you won't have this kind of freedom you have to rant like baby. Piss off Title: Re: US is so poor that president trump constantly attack China. Post by: Reatim on May 27, 2020, 08:33:22 AM ^ im leaving this thread here, to set a precedent to the reader from the future, any reply that’s trying to divert attention wouldn’t get entertained, call me misogyny all you want. no one is diverting the discussion to anything but of course we have all different views in this matter so maybe better to take a look at those views and consider them as another pointers for your intention here.Are you a Chinese citizen? Cold war or trade war that is going on between China and America is inevitable, both countries want to show that they are the strongest, the corona outbreak that is currently sweeping has increased tensions between the two countries I think He is Chinese (IMO according to His stand on this matter)and this is the problem if no one wants to give way or the title because the effect can be felt around the globe and not only on their areas. Do you believe China is strong? Do you believe that America is a sad country? you should change your mindset the truth?no one wins because the people are suffering from their rivalries and seems not going top stop in the soonest days.as long as they wont let one to win over other?this will continue . Title: Re: US is so poor that president trump constantly attack China. Post by: stompix on May 27, 2020, 09:54:48 AM ~ Seriously, go see a vet about your eyes and comprehension as it seems you're way off in everything. I'm giving numbers you're giving me a crapload of text with nothing but stupid discussions between two or more morons and some youtube channels? Do you know what the ironic part is in that? That those clickbaitish clips are done for one purpose alone, clicks and views than transform in good old us dollar who everyone on this planet is after, even the Chinese. US debt held, by Chinese? 5%. Nothing! What about the Chinese 10 trillion debt? Crickets! Before barking like a mad dog and posting another wall of text with no meaning come with numbers! Number!! Like the debt China has. Like its budget deficit! Like its inequality! Like the numbers of Chinese fleeing it for the US! Like the billions, they come with! Numbers, not bullshit propaganda and rumors spoken by two lonely guys in a basement full of tin foil. He is not Chinese, he is a nutcase, and those have no citizenship or race. Title: Re: US is so poor that president trump constantly attack China. Post by: Leviathan.007 on May 27, 2020, 10:09:19 AM Actually, China is attacking the US by producing cheap products and send them into US and the other countries while the local companies can never produce such cheap good as China does. So, this is so predictable to see US trying to protected the local business by prevent and restrict importing goods from China. If you look deeply you will understand China is attacking but US is defending their economy as they should. We can never say china is poor innocent country since we all know how the crisis started while they are they pretended like nothing happened by secretly taking arrested the doctor who wanted to tell the truth.
Title: Re: US is so poor that president trump constantly attack China. Post by: SuperBowl1984 on May 27, 2020, 10:28:37 AM ~ Seriously, go see a vet about your eyes and comprehension as it seems you're way off in everything. I'm giving numbers you're giving me a crapload of text with nothing but stupid discussions between two or more morons and some youtube channels? Do you know what the ironic part is in that? That those clickbaitish clips are done for one purpose alone, clicks and views than transform in good old us dollar who everyone on this planet is after, even the Chinese. US debt held, by Chinese? 5%. Nothing! What about the Chinese 10 trillion debt? Crickets! Before barking like a mad dog and posting another wall of text with no meaning come with numbers! Number!! Like the debt China has. Like its budget deficit! Like its inequality! Like the numbers of Chinese fleeing it for the US! Like the billions, they come with! Numbers, not bullshit propaganda and rumors spoken by two lonely guys in a basement full of tin foil. He is not Chinese, he is a nutcase, and those have no citizenship or race. It’s the trump who decide what’s the number for your perusal, when trump said it number one it must be number one! When trump say it’s obama incompetence it’s the Obama’s fault, when trump said it’s the white people it must be the white people! When trump farting hard you all must smell it with wide open arm welcoming it! When trump said mangina you all said vagina. When trump said 5% you all say 5%! No question ask! Title: Re: US is so poor that president trump constantly attack China. Post by: peter0425 on May 28, 2020, 05:31:33 AM US is so poor that president trump constantly attack China. Because China is so rich that they can buy the entire Africa, they can buy the entire existing technology, they can invest into best new talents, they can invest into 5G, 6G, 7G, they can build the best spaceship with all the income they received from tax money. for me?let start this kind of conversation once the pandemic ends and not now that we have need helping others first. Title: Re: US is so poor that president trump constantly attack China. Post by: Paycoinzzz on May 28, 2020, 05:48:08 AM Hilarious title. Despite his flaws, Trump is completely right in attacking China these days since their incompetence led to a worldwide plague. I don't support the crazy conspiracy theories regarding China inventing the virus in one of their labs etc. I am also not a US citizen but I realize there is much shady in China. Data changes have been a violation and besides they do not seem to feel responsible for what the world is suffering. Covid-19 originated from China and it is considered an economic virus. Only strong enough to kill the elderly but making young people spend a lot of time to treat. There is so much restraint on the economies of many heavily affected countries. This time, European countries should accuse China and make them pay the right amount for them.On top of this, the Chinese government faked their COVID numbers and they even manipulated the WHO for their own profit. Pathetic and distasteful behavior in my opinion. Also, I am not a US citizen. Title: Re: US is so poor that president trump constantly attack China. Post by: abhiseshakana on May 28, 2020, 08:45:09 AM It’s the trump who decide what’s the number for your perusal, when trump said it number one it must be number one! When trump say it’s obama incompetence it’s the Obama’s fault, when trump said it’s the white people it must be the white people! When trump farting hard you all must smell it with wide open arm welcoming it! When trump said mangina you all said vagina. When trump said 5% you all say 5%! No question ask! US + Trump = super power + megalomania = industry defense + economist at war = instability is always there by American design. I not only see this from conspiracy theories but rather see this from the perspective of national interests. America needs a big budget to support the pentagon, the NSA, the CIA which has been getting funding from the "defense industry". Therefore the war must not disappear so that the demand for weapons remains high and the American arms industry continues to exist. Trump has calculated the benefits of war for America. American tactics have always maintained the war zone's status quo to keep its wares selling. In 2018, the United States Secretary of Defense stated that "America is no longer focused on fighting terrorism. America is focusing on the growing threat of China and Russia". Trump disagreed with Mattis Mad Dog and then John Bolton who was replaced by Mark Esper and O Brien. Trump needs a war but a military war costs a lot of money. Then the less confrontational strategy is chosen, which is compartments China. China will be compartmentalized on four sides. North by Japan, the Peninsula is guarded by South Korea, Taiwan, and most recently the Southeast Asia region where the South China Sea is the region that is the largest concentration of China in its grand plan for controlling rare minerals. America has also begun to add India as a proxy for pressure on China. This rare earth metal production has been monopolized by China and the majority of its resources are in southeast Asia. Trump is late in realizing China's move to energy self-sufficiency by the hegemony of the battery industry. The South China Sea is a vital location for the sustainability of China's food security in the future. So to put the brakes on China, America must ensure the status quo in the region. The Philippines has already given a green signal to the American military presence. Australia and America are building military bases in Papua New Guinea. As the charm of crude oil decreases, the conflict will shift to the area of renewable energy sources and which is the backyard of the challengers of superpower. What would happen to the United States defense industry without rare earth metals. Title: Re: US is so poor that president trump constantly attack China. Post by: raidarksword on May 28, 2020, 01:04:29 PM I believe that China is has more economic prowess than US today because of manufacturing power that china can produce and china got more resources. One thing that keeps Trump attacking china because of the alleged of covid-19 was made by china for world economic sabotage that really gave Trump a motive to hate china over and over again. With all this conflict to each nations, they should sit this a side momentarily because we got more powerful enemy we need to eliminate and give more priority to save more lives during this pandemic.
Title: Re: US is so poor that president trump constantly attack China. Post by: Subbir on May 28, 2020, 01:50:06 PM China is liable for all this so I feel President Trump will still attack China I feel this is often a really good decision. the results for the entire world for them are that everybody lives in crisis. Not just President Trump but all poisoned presidents should take some action against China. Everything started in China Meanwhile, China has also did not come up with a vaccine and isn't supplying the required pests they're keeping everything secret and conspiring to place the planet in additional crisis.
Title: Re: US is so poor that president trump constantly attack China. Post by: justdimin on May 28, 2020, 06:36:25 PM Was this called sinoism or something? The act of saying "china is good" basically, I can't really explain it all that well, nationalism in china? Well, zionism was related to Jewish race but sinoism was same thing but for Chinese I think and not just china. All in all China has nothing to do with USA as much as you think.
China thinks they are so powerful that even USA owes them 1 trillion dollars and "can't pay it back" when in reality USA basically printed out 4.2 trillion dollars just in last 3 months so there is no way they can't pay. And yes USA is doing horrible but attacking china is not the result of that. Trump is a racist person and he is willing to attack anyone, China, Russia, Europe, Canada he attacks basically everyone, because his voters are idiots who love racism as well and that is how he gets votes. Title: Re: US is so poor that president trump constantly attack China. Post by: Soldierswitlittlefaith on May 28, 2020, 06:54:29 PM US is so poor that president trump constantly attack China. Because China is so rich that they can buy the entire Africa, they can buy the entire existing technology, they can invest into best new talents, they can invest into 5G, 6G, 7G, they can build the best spaceship with all the income they received from tax money. for me?let start this kind of conversation once the pandemic ends and not now that we have need helping others first. @peter0425, "Them but of course in this situation attacking others is not really needs to be in place because there are so many dying people and sick that needs attention than this one...." Atleast, this is one comment that got my attention. There is no need for china or USA to keep attacking each other. Any country who wants to prove that is the strongest & fit to lead should set a good example by finding lasting solution to this pandermic! No offence, but, i think it's stupid for some folks who keep talking about power in such a crucial moment where everybody is living in fear of not knowing what might happen tomorrow. Thanks Soldierwitlittlefaith Title: Re: US is so poor that president trump constantly attack China. Post by: Soldierswitlittlefaith on May 28, 2020, 07:04:55 PM "Because China is so rich that they can buy the entire Africa...."
Buy the entire Africa? how? and with worth? Just a few question(s) why is it that any country who desire to become a super-power will jump from own country into investment in Africa? Are there no poor people in china or project that need to be funded in China? I bet China is trying to follow the blueprint of most eu countries & America. Note : A colleague of mine said to me the other day that the production of the CHINA VIRUS is a proof to American's & Eu that china has the potential to produce unique product! Thanks Title: Re: US is so poor that president trump constantly attack China. Post by: electronicash on May 28, 2020, 07:22:54 PM US is so poor that president trump constantly attack China. Because China is so rich that they can buy the entire Africa, they can buy the entire existing technology, they can invest into best new talents, they can invest into 5G, 6G, 7G, they can build the best spaceship with all the income they received from tax money. for me?let start this kind of conversation once the pandemic ends and not now that we have need helping others first. @peter0425, "Them but of course in this situation attacking others is not really needs to be in place because there are so many dying people and sick that needs attention than this one...." Atleast, this is one comment that got my attention. There is no need for china or USA to keep attacking each other. Any country who wants to prove that is the strongest & fit to lead should set a good example by finding lasting solution to this pandermic! No offence, but, i think it's stupid for some folks who keep talking about power in such a crucial moment where everybody is living in fear of not knowing what might happen tomorrow. Thanks Soldierwitlittlefaith i don't think China is trying to replace US being the strong and fit to lead in fact they were trying to protect themselves. there is nothing in the history of china that wants to control anyone except their own people. china has power but never have they been trying to attack unless threatened. in South China Sea, they have been protecting that sea for they are vulnerable in that part. and yes truth this is not time to attack each other. unless we really want to wipe out part of the world. China is capable of doing that as well. Title: Re: US is so poor that president trump constantly attack China. Post by: abhiseshakana on May 29, 2020, 06:25:24 AM Buy the entire Africa? how? The method is through colonialization 5.0 with the narrative of the one belt one road (OBOR) program. Almost 23 countries have joined BRI (Belt Road Initiative).Quote and with worth? By printing as many renminbi as long as there are productive multi-layered projects that do not use dollars but can bring foreign exchange to China.Quote why is it that any country who desire to become a super-power will jump from own country into investment in Africa? Are there no poor people in china or project that need to be funded in China? To prepare for resilience like the Chinese. China is a country with a super jumbo population, a lot of mouths that need to be fed. Relying on domestic projects alone will not be enough to feed the Chinese people in the future. With OBOR's investment in Africa, China is opening new jobs and making sure the domestic industry continues to spin. Why Africa, many African countries are in fact poor countries, this is an advantage for China to enter the American and European markets especially after China and many Asian countries were dropped from the list of developing countries by America. Quote I bet China is trying to follow the blueprint of most eu countries & America. Yes exactly with a few modifications. China mimics exactly what America did when it siphoned off China's national assets in the form of cheap skilled labor in the 90s but China's strategy is more sophisticated because it can bind a country in the long run. China will not repeat America's mistakes. China will develop the African manufacturing sector for the European export market given the geographical distance between Africa and Europe is closer. China will make a New supply chain by sending semi-finished goods from China and processed into finished goods in Africa and then exported to Europe. Chinese manufacturing is running, projects in Africa are also on the way and the dollar is entering China.Title: Re: US is so poor that president trump constantly attack China. Post by: ragavancoin on May 29, 2020, 03:29:50 PM Because of China whole world is suffering as we all know. War between US and China will never end. The US companies which were in China will definitely shift to other countries may be to india also. US is very strong country but now because of China US as become helpless and poor.
Title: Re: US is so poor that president trump constantly attack China. Post by: Kakmakr on May 29, 2020, 03:54:04 PM I am curious to know what is driving you or motivating you to start a thread like this in a Bitcoin forum? Bitcoin does not care if you are a Communist or a Capitalist, because it is just another currency. Nobody is holding a gun to your head and forcing you to use it, like almost all governments (including China) are doing with Fiat currencies.
I admire some of the Chinese for their work ethic and their loyalty to a government that are crushing their freedom in many ways. We only have to look at the things happening in Hong Kong, to see what I am talking about. Even a dog is loyal to his owner, because he feeds him... The Chinese would have ruled the world, if they had a government like the US. ;) Title: Re: US is so poor that president trump constantly attack China. Post by: Gozie51 on May 29, 2020, 05:30:29 PM China is liable for all this so I feel President Trump will still attack China I feel this is often a really good decision. the results for the entire world for them are that everybody lives in crisis. Not just President Trump but all poisoned presidents should take some action against China. Everything started in China Meanwhile, China has also did not come up with a vaccine and isn't supplying the required pests they're keeping everything secret and conspiring to place the planet in additional crisis. Also that America is the watching eyes of the world should make Trump to speak out on the evil to the world since all other president are not doing that. The world is in crisis about the pandemic and needs solution to live back to normal. China is the focus for this problem as we read through media and people are dying from this infection by daily basis. Title: Re: US is so poor that president trump constantly attack China. Post by: imstillthebest on May 30, 2020, 02:51:59 PM Because of China whole world is suffering as we all know. War between US and China will never end. The US companies which were in China will definitely shift to other countries may be to india also. US is very strong country but now because of China US as become helpless and poor. lets not judge china too quick . just because china start the spread does that mean that they mean it ? no i guess . world is suffering isnt because of china but because some people are not careful enough to them self and to the people around them . u.s isnt poor and not helpless but u.s is a rich and strong country . there could be another reason or issue on the past that havent been resolved yet before the covid issue came but lets hope both country will make peace not war Title: Re: US is so poor that president trump constantly attack China. Post by: electronicash on May 30, 2020, 07:19:32 PM Was this called sinoism or something? The act of saying "china is good" basically, I can't really explain it all that well, nationalism in china? Well, zionism was related to Jewish race but sinoism was same thing but for Chinese I think and not just china. All in all China has nothing to do with USA as much as you think. China thinks they are so powerful that even USA owes them 1 trillion dollars and "can't pay it back" when in reality USA basically printed out 4.2 trillion dollars just in last 3 months so there is no way they can't pay. And yes USA is doing horrible but attacking china is not the result of that. Trump is a racist person and he is willing to attack anyone, China, Russia, Europe, Canada he attacks basically everyone, because his voters are idiots who love racism as well and that is how he gets votes. that's not how it works. if US prints 4.2T last 3 months, it means that their debt is not worth $1Trillion anymore. remember that if you print more the more it loses value. now what if China will also print more up to $4.2T worth of yuan? does it mean that the two will have to keep printing just to make sure their debt will be lessen? china hasn't print anything yet. have they? the only china did is focus more on digital yuan and i guess they are seeing this to happen in the future where the economic war will happen with digital currencies. Title: Re: US is so poor that president trump constantly attack China. Post by: amishmanish on May 30, 2020, 07:35:26 PM Wow. Has the official Chinese media decided to spread propaganda on bitcointalk? That is very good. Actually, I think we do want to hear what the Chinese have to say to the world in terms of their plans for the world. On the face of it, Chinese really do not appear to be very trustworthy. You only have to look at the how hypocritical they are:
1. Have been known for coordinating cyber attack to steal IP for US universities and companies. 2. Begin their imperialistic actions as soon as they think that the world is not looking or is too weak to question. Like in the sea boundaries with SE countries. 3. Has a policy of using state power as well as state-controlled manpower to take over emerging markets like Africa. This isn't talked about much but the stratification of Chinese society ensures that they have an unending supply of labor at every level of skill with a very special property. They know their place in the scheme of things and will never say a word about "work conditions", "minimum wages" etc. like those in other democratic countries. 4. Bag of lies in relation to the Coronavirus. The Chinese are a very effective machine. Yet, they show no remorse in using the worst of the times to further their interests. They have no self-correction mechanism to weed out unethical activities sponsored by the Govt like bribing, human right abuses, forced incarceration etc. As long as these activities contribute to maintaining some form of business advantage, the Chinese govt will continue to do it. In a country like US or UK, their own citizens will raise questions if the government activities get too exploitative in foreign lands. The Chinese are quite clearly a cold-blooded, ruthless, untrustworthy lot. Title: Re: US is so poor that president trump constantly attack China. Post by: PavelMed on May 31, 2020, 05:29:14 PM It's all about the national characteristics of the Chinese. They can work for days, can fall on the floor, and get back to work. They have to be smart in order to achieve something, and stand out from the crowd. It is sometimes scary, from the percentage of indigenous people and visiting Chinese.
Title: Re: US is so poor that president trump constantly attack China. Post by: abhiseshakana on June 01, 2020, 09:33:59 PM 2. Begin their imperialistic actions as soon as they think that the world is not looking or is too weak to question. Like in the sea boundaries with SE countries. China learned colonialism from Japan and the West. China used to be a Japanese colony. And in Xi's thought that China with a jumbo population must guarantee adequate food and employment for its people. Xi believes that China is not a country of China is a community so that the government supports the Chinese diaspora throughout the world. The South China Sea Region is indeed a territorial dispute region between many countries that mutually claim territories.Quote 3. Has a policy of using state power as well as state-controlled manpower to take over emerging markets like Africa. This isn't talked about much but the stratification of Chinese society ensures that they have an unending supply of labor at every level of skill with a very special property. They know their place in the scheme of things and will never say a word about "work conditions", "minimum wages" etc. like those in other democratic countries. China does divide its business into two lines, namely domestic, which is controlled by the private sector and abroad which is controlled by state-owned enterprises. Once again colonialism 5.0 China in Africa with the OBOR project is imitating the American strategy in the 90s, of course with the modification of long-term infrastructure development so that it is not like America who forgot to bind China.OBOR is a disaster for developing countries even though it is clad with a development narrative. In reality, there is no growth. OBOR is exploitation, infrastructure development requires raw materials from China, work from China ranging from experts to workers. Although the projects are in Africa, money doesn't all revolve in Africa, but it guarantees manufacturing in China and ensures the dollar goes to China even though China doesn't spend a lot of dollars. Quote 4. Bag of lies in relation to the Coronavirus. For this one, America and China are both brutes, because humanity is not prioritized.Title: Re: US is so poor that president trump constantly attack China. Post by: BuNga_cute on June 01, 2020, 10:55:17 PM Economic competition between China and the US has been going on for a long time, even before the COVID19 outbreak occurred. This is what
makes the guess that COVID19 was created by a lab in the US or China, regardless of whether the allegations were true or false, there was indeed a trade war between China and US. Now the US economy continues to weaken, even the price of stock in the US market is getting down. In contrast to China, the economy more stable and looks very ready to face the pandemic COVID19. So in conclusion I agree with the article in the opening post. Title: Re: US is so poor that president trump constantly attack China. Post by: tbterryboy on June 11, 2020, 05:31:21 AM I think you made a really silly and racist comment by saying that China can buy the whole Africa. It’s really dumb thing to say, and I believe that you’re an adult. Why mention Africa out of the whole continents in the world? You even sound bitter, and I don’t understand why you’re making some excuses here that are not making sense to me.
How did you know that America is poor, are you the one in charge of their finance? Who are you please? How did you even get to know that China is rich enough to buy a whole continent? *Hiss**. For the sake of your favorite country or your own country please do not insult other country or its people. Saying something like I could buy all of you is definitely sounding like pure slavery even if you do not actually mean it. Please make your statements not hurting anyone in any means. Title: Re: US is so poor that president trump constantly attack China. Post by: chrisculanag on June 11, 2020, 03:07:30 PM All of country suffered the effect of pandemic so means US is not the only low income. The government here is also low in income but still trying to recover. I think someday president trump will rise the US again. Then why other said that other country can buy africa , africa is a one of the prestigious country and i sure that the people of africa is not to give up the place that give her/his a good life. Peace everyone can save us. Lets stand as one and soon the world will back again to normal.
Title: Re: US is so poor that president trump constantly attack China. Post by: mycryptocoin on June 11, 2020, 05:16:01 PM I disagree with some of your views. Firstly, America is not poor. The US does not attack China because of poverty or to become richer. The United States attacked China because China is now developing rapidly, being the second power in the world. This threatens America's No. 1 position so far: The United States is the world's No. 1 powerhouse, able to manipulate and control the world with its own power (as you can see in the past, the United States has how spontaneous to attack Iraq, Iran, start wars ...). The war between the United States and China was a trade war, gaining the world hegemony, it was like the cold war between the United States and the Soviet Union in the early years of the 20th century and the United States was the winner.
Title: Re: US is so poor that president trump constantly attack China. Post by: CHENIEN on June 12, 2020, 03:46:10 AM Actually, in history the country of China is affluent of different kinds of equipment and oil from the latest research and besides it is also immersive to emulate, however because of the excessive intellect, perhaps lot of invented such as therapeutic but the awareness of mistake has unpredictable to happen. China is the primary responsible of pandemic impact according to many speculation,so I believe that trump administrative support for and have a deeply reasons to attack China even unfounded I think if the battle is uncontrolled through immigration and constantly evolving we are affected of their passion of war.
Title: Re: US is so poor that president trump constantly attack China. Post by: Bezobraznike on June 17, 2020, 04:32:21 AM Actually, in history the country of China is affluent of different kinds of equipment and oil from the latest research and besides it is also immersive to emulate, however because of the excessive intellect, perhaps lot of invented such as therapeutic but the awareness of mistake has unpredictable to happen. China is the primary responsible of pandemic impact according to many speculation,so I believe that trump administrative support for and have a deeply reasons to attack China even unfounded I think if the battle is uncontrolled through immigration and constantly evolving we are affected of their passion of war. In recent history we have many similar situation, where China and USA point fingers in each other for some reasons. They accuse each other for many things, it's probably a trade war, that last for years, they struggle for domination on the markets. I don't think that USA is a poor, neither is China. They are just using propaganda as a tool in this trade war. We can hope that will not escalate, both are too big and war can be devastating for the entire world. Title: Re: US is so poor that president trump constantly attack China. Post by: GeorgeJohn on June 19, 2020, 08:36:09 AM U.S can't be poor because the country is already planned,I disagreed the fact that U.S is poor,doe it mean the reason U.S president is having issues with China according to you is because of economy.you can't compare China economy and US economy. Trump having issue with anyone in China does not mean that U.S is poor or their lacking resources, everyone knows very well that China is industrious country but it does not mean that their economy is higher than U.S or why their is challenges between the two countries is base U.S want to benefit from China.
I refute the pointt strongly. Title: Re: US is so poor that president trump constantly attack China. Post by: AniviaBtc on June 19, 2020, 11:42:15 AM One thing that keeps Trump attacking china because of the alleged of covid-19 was made by china for world economic sabotage that really gave Trump a motive to hate china over and over again. Trump is really a no.1 hater of China, they always fight about all sectors in their government. He made this pandemic as an advantage to blame this pandemic to China although the virus really originated from them. It is no excuse that the virus came from them, but Trump is really exposing China as the creator of this pandemic. President Trump should focus on its community on how they will handle this pandemic. With all this conflict to each nations, they should sit this a side momentarily because we got more powerful enemy we need to eliminate and give more priority to save more lives during this pandemic. Hatred about one another should temporarily stopped because that's not the problem right now. They should focus more on how they will overcome and control this virus to spread and help each other's economy grow. This is not the right time to talk about certain issues between different countries. Title: Re: US is so poor that president trump constantly attack China. Post by: reliable on June 19, 2020, 12:18:57 PM We all know that US is not a poor and it has not become the Superpower country like this only and why people love to work and settle in US is their preference as well. There are various reasons to it and this itself shows the supremacy of the country. Now the thing could be election is around the corner and with this Covid as per reports being spread purposely so this could be the factor that may be boiling Trump.
Title: Re: US is so poor that president trump constantly attack China. Post by: Kong Hey Pakboy on June 19, 2020, 12:24:48 PM One thing that keeps Trump attacking china because of the alleged of covid-19 was made by china for world economic sabotage that really gave Trump a motive to hate china over and over again. Trump is really a no.1 hater of China, they always fight about all sectors in their government. He made this pandemic as an advantage to blame this pandemic to China although the virus really originated from them. It is no excuse that the virus came from them, but Trump is really exposing China as the creator of this pandemic. President Trump should focus on its community on how they will handle this pandemic. With all this conflict to each nations, they should sit this a side momentarily because we got more powerful enemy we need to eliminate and give more priority to save more lives during this pandemic. Hatred about one another should temporarily stopped because that's not the problem right now. They should focus more on how they will overcome and control this virus to spread and help each other's economy grow. This is not the right time to talk about certain issues between different countries. Title: Re: US is so poor that president trump constantly attack China. Post by: finaleshot2016 on June 19, 2020, 01:06:18 PM The US isn't that poor, they are a great country and have a good economy. It's normal for both of them to accuse and attack because of the trade war and China alone has a bigger demand than the US. Middle classes of US are decreasing while in China they're constantly growing and vice versa.
Recently, I've read an article that says, the US is the main source of the COVID-19 and I guess it's China's plan to overcome them. Since the US's confirmed case count is going bigger while in China, it already stops at 80k since then (and I doubt it's legit because it's manipulated by the Chinese government). They said that the diseases came from the American soldiers that came from Wuhan in October but it has no proofs. They hurt each other but they have a large and massive economy and tariffs that will not cause their economy to go down and the only countries that benefit from this are Africa, Europe and the Middle East. Title: Re: US is so poor that president trump constantly attack China. Post by: CarnagexD on June 19, 2020, 01:59:34 PM China is liable for all this so I feel President Trump will still attack China I feel this is often a really good decision. the results for the entire world for them are that everybody lives in crisis. Not just President Trump but all poisoned presidents should take some action against China. Everything started in China Meanwhile, China has also did not come up with a vaccine and isn't supplying the required pests they're keeping everything secret and conspiring to place the planet in additional crisis. It is true that China should be accountable for all of this mess, but still they are ignoring and not claiming that this virus was originated from their country. They should somehow feel guilty about this pandemic because every one of us are in the risk of getting the deadly virus. But every president should act like a professional leader and focus on the problem and not on other countries. It is not worthy to attack a country with some accusations right now, just like President Trump, he is blaming China without even managing the economy himself. China have a stable economy amidst of this pandemic and they are just ignoring those accusations that the virus originated from them. Reason? It is because Chinese president is not that affected about their accusation towards them that why he is just ignoring them and focused on the growth of their economy. Title: Re: US is so poor that president trump constantly attack China. Post by: dothebeats on June 19, 2020, 02:41:03 PM While Trump's administration don't have its own priorities in check, I support what he's doing in continuously telling China to fuck off on some of the issues concerning the safety of other countries and whatnot. Also, had it not been for the US continuously improving their military equipment and expenditures, some country might soon start to go rouge and no one is going to do bring democracy to them (quite meme-y, but whatever). It's true that we live in the most peaceful era in the human history, but it's also quite true that someone still needs to stand up for others if they are constantly being harassed and one country is slowly chipping away the rights of the other, and that's where America is good at: being the bigger bully of them all. :D
The US isn't really that poor. Most jobs are outsourced because the cost on other countries, especially in China, is really low compared to when the jobs and production line are on the mainland. It's not only the US that has been doing this for decades but also a lot of big countries in Europe as well. That's the edge of China compared to other countries, and it's not as if Trump is ready to severe all ties to China by constantly attacking them. He knows what the stakes are probably and just wants to let China know that the US is still around and could not do everything that they want that might disrupt peace and the sovereignty of other countries. Title: Re: US is so poor that president trump constantly attack China. Post by: sana54210 on June 19, 2020, 03:53:33 PM I understand the sionist approach in the online world now, there are even people who are paid to promote how awesome china is on all online world by the CCP so that they would be at least defended. However, if CCP wants to stretch out to western online websites and defend themselves and attack other nations, why not let everyone in their nation go to those websites and talk about China as well?
How about hundreds of people even thousands of people who have said one bad thing about CCP that went straight to concentration camps? How about thousands of Uyghur Turks that they genocide and killed? USA may not be a great country, it has a lot of flaws but do not mistake an evil dictatorship that wants to murder everyone who opposes them to a country with an idiot president. Title: Re: US is so poor that president trump constantly attack China. Post by: Mauser on June 19, 2020, 03:53:51 PM I am glad that Trump is criticising China. Which other country would actually stand up to China? Definitely not Europe. Why dies this make Trump or China poor? The USA is a democracy, while China is a dictatorship. The growth of China is being build on the back of their population. Why not critize the way China is treating there own people?. Should we just sit back and watch what is happening to Hong Kong, Japan, India, Vietnam, Tibet, Korea, Taiwan, and so on.
Just because China is being the low production cost country in the world we should tolerate everything? Why not push for free markets, free elections, without controlling the meadia? Title: Re: US is so poor that president trump constantly attack China. Post by: abhiseshakana on June 19, 2020, 05:22:25 PM Because of China whole world is suffering as we all know. War between US and China will never end. The US companies which were in China will definitely shift to other countries may be to india also. US is very strong country but now because of China US as become helpless and poor. I think US and China are eleven and twelve. China is an economic rascal while the US is a thug bastard. The goal is the same as a different cover. The ideological war between China and the US might not end, but relations between countries are very dynamic. There are no eternal friends and foes, only eternal interests. Before Trump came to power China became America's strategic partner and not an enemy as it was in Trump's days.Because India did not support US military plans in the South China Sea, several US companies operating in China moved to Indonesia. According to the statement of one of the ministers in Indonesia, there are around 33 US companies that will migrate to Indonesia from China. The US remains the strongest country at the moment due to currency dominance, political dominance, and military dominance. Trade and funding dominance has indeed shifted to China, but the US economy is still superior. I admire some of the Chinese for their work ethic and their loyalty to a government that are crushing their freedom in many ways. We only have to look at the things happening in Hong Kong, to see what I am talking about. Even a dog is loyal to his owner, because he feeds him... The Chinese would have ruled the world, if they had a government like the US. ;) The way the US dominated was indeed copied and applied by China with Chinese-style improvisation. China has its own version of democracy like having WhatsApp made in China that is WeChat. The Hong Kong problem is purely a sovereign problem for China. We only need to look forward to how a government like the US has been modified by China.Title: Re: US is so poor that president trump constantly attack China. Post by: bearexin on June 21, 2020, 05:38:50 PM Although I am not a supporter of Trump, but if you’re talking as of recent, then I think the reason he’s pissed with them (China) is because of the Coronavirus that came from Wuhan. And let’s be sincere here, a lot of people were not happy with China for not being transparent in the way they dealt with this Coronavirus, and to make things worst they even censored everything and stopped their doctors from letting others.
If they were being transparent, I believe maybe this would have not crossed their border to become a pandemic. I am not blaming Chinese people, no we shouldn’t blame them, we should blame their government that are being autocratic in everything. I am not seeing the trade of China and USA to be ending soon but if there should be a amicable agreement between them then that will boost bitcoin markets up to significant level for sure. Title: Re: US is so poor that president trump constantly attack China. Post by: abhiseshakana on July 11, 2020, 06:07:14 AM Although I am not a supporter of Trump, but if you’re talking as of recent, then I think the reason he’s pissed with them (China) is because of the Coronavirus that came from Wuhan. And let’s be sincere here, a lot of people were not happy with China for not being transparent in the way they dealt with this Coronavirus, and to make things worst they even censored everything and stopped their doctors from letting others. We should not forget and always realize that propaganda is a communist and socialist skill and tool of combat. Until now, communism has also been used as a propaganda tool in China. The control of the Chinese communist party, over the media, is very strong from the decades ago not just now, so all world leaders should be aware of China's basic nature. Although now many countries are also following China's propaganda.If they were being transparent, I believe maybe this would have not crossed their border to become a pandemic. I am not blaming Chinese people, no we shouldn’t blame them, we should blame their government that are being autocratic in everything. I am not seeing the trade of China and USA to be ending soon but if there should be a amicable agreement between them then that will boost bitcoin markets up to significant level for sure. If you see China now is a socialist capitalist country with one belt one road as an ideology and communism as a propaganda tool. There is an action there is a reaction, the reaction carried out by China is the response of American foreign policies as a superpower, China already has experience as a colony. |
