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All lives matter, which is why it is important to take a stand to defend exploited and disenfranchised minorities. The BLM movement is vitally important, and a step forward on the long road to true equality of treatment and opportunity. "Black Lives Matter" actually means "Black Lives Matter, Too".
I don't think that saying "All Lives Matter" is an appropriate response to BLM, because it implies that the demands and rights of white people aren't being met... which is patently untrue. I've not answered the question posed at the top of the page, because it is a false dichotomy, because the alternatives overlap. To say "Black Lives Matter" is not to imply that white lives don't, rather it is saying that all lives matter equally, even those that society treats of being of lesser value.

This is like asking for someone to help and call an ambulance and they would respond: "Why you specificly? Ambulance is for everyone!"
Not every protest can be about you and no one ever claimed that all lifes don't matter.

Both. Equally. 

But the problem I have is BLM was built on a lie, and still perpetuates lies. And is now nothing more than a Political tool for the left around election time. 

I actually believe it is more racist of those calling everyone racist, to believe ANY minority cannot make it on their own without your extremist liberal help.   Look how well that worked out for the residents of Minneapolis.

The laws of the US guarantee equal opportunity, not equal outcome.  Outcomes require effort. And don't go screaming 'but they're poor' to me. Take a look at some fine trailer parks in WV or TN and you'll see the same outcome from white folks.

It's not race causing these issues.


And I'm Irish, so I know a little about my ancestors being enslaved.

All lives don't matter, except for those at the top. It has been like this for centuries. It's a false reality we live in. 1984.
You can't change the system. See Monsanto.

Of course all lives matter.

"Black Lives Matter" is a racist, supremacist movement.

The "Black Power" salute is equivalent to the "Heil Hitler" salute.

Both salutes are racist as fuck.

Indeed, we live in 1984.

They want to get down to well under half a billion as far as I can tell.  For the sake of argument lets say that 1 of 10 survive. Knocking off 9 of 10 people should be pretty easy.  Announce a 'covid-19 vaccine' tomorrow and you've got it.

The trouble is that unless a fair bit of effort is undertaken the 1 of 10 people who survive are going to be highly selected toward those who are resistant to the current threats.  That is to say, resistant to 'you' and your bullshit.  It's a natural fallout of the evolutionary principle.  Then instead of a sheep ratio of 99/100 you end up with a sheep ratio of, say 1/2 on a population-wide basis.  That's not a winning end-game for 'you'.

You are pretty much going to need (mis-labeled) 'AI' to decide who to bump off and who to keep and an individually selective system of doing the deed in order to ensure that you end up both with the overall population numbers you want AND the appropriate ratio of sheeple, potential sociopaths with skilz, general boot-lickers (aka, 'noahides'), etc.  A good working ratio is (((2700-to-one))) worker bees to chosen, but again, you gotta get the right 2700 from the current population or the experiment is an immediate fail...and hold that ratio steady or things won't be 'sustainable'.

'Social media' (Google, Facebook, Twitter, etc) have gathered the data needed to determine who are 'safe keepers'.  Now it's just a matter of 'pursing the seine (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b-HfrX2QgVM)' in such a way that the fewest of the unsafe ones get away.  Just like herring fishing in Alaska, it is common that the entire season comes down to one set.  Get it wrong and you have to wait until next year to try it again.

i don't think so BLM puts attention on pointless cases like george floyed and causes damage, while ignoring universal cases many hard working policemen died due to their racist mob riots.

all lives matter or you are a racist.

you are wrong,

BLM puts attention on pointless cases uplifting drug addicted black criminals, while ignoring hard working people.

if there would be an organisation called police brutality watch where petty crimes are being checked for severe punishments, that would be something

stop feeding racist mobs if you want a nonracist society.

We are all one, whether black or white or brown or yellow people should not differentiate but the black lives matter movement people that blacks are on risks for being black because of the treatment they receive, because there are so many blacks have lost their lives the same way, of course the movement just want their voice heard and be treated as equals.

Some profound cognitive dissonance there - unless you are self-identifying as a racist?

it is all live matters or you ARE a racist, because you priotise one life for an other.

we have something like that already its called "human rights" but black people try to ignore that and try force others to care about them, instead of being nonracist and neutral.

they are authoritarian, in america they silence others with death threats and this way they have broken the polls

Besides Black lives matter is:

a racist, authoritarian, violent, looting pseudosocialst mob.

it is what america always was fighting against

All lives matter.

This means that if somebody doesn't want to take part in activities of some other race, since his own life matters, he doesn't have to... as long as he lives and lets live.

Nobody in America is required to "buddy-up" to customs and doings of other people that he finds obnoxious to his way of life. However, he must allow them to live in their ways, even if he finds them obnoxious.

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I agree, no matter who you are. But there is something else. The Indians were also oppressed and exterminated, but there is only such a boom. What is the reason for this? If you do not want to be oppressed, do not let yourself be oppressed. Is not it? Why are racism issues raised only in relation to Afro?

Human life is priceless and there is absolutely no difference in what color skin. It is true that sometimes I think that some people abuse their position, namely their disadvantaged rights.

because they have learned to use it the best while all others discovered way to have benefits in the republics created, besides indian opression was ordered, europeans never had the choice, they where also forcefully converted to that religion

I agree. But explain why people die at all, and how they die very fast in war. I mean, if life were priceless, you would think that there would essentially be no death. Or is it the rareness of life that makes it priceless.

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All you are saying is that the republic is a form of dictatorial rule. If all the members of the republic - the citizens - saw the Indian massacres, would they have been for them or against them? Remember, the Indians did their own massacres, too.

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exactly the republic freed the indians from their tribal wars and gave them a common langauge and common currency,
europeans today still suffer because they don't have a single currency like the people in former european colonies have.

Each of us is only given life once. That's why it's priceless. We can't buy a second life for any money.

People like sheep are led to slaughter so they don't appreciate their lives...

I think wars are being fought to reduce our planet's population, as the planet gets more polluted every day. Just imagine that every liter of oil extracted from the bowels of the earth is replaced by a liter of fresh water that we can no longer use.  :(

People recognize how precious and priceless their life is when they are threatened with immediate death. The routine of the day makes them forget if they are not threatened. Dead people don't realize how precious their life was.

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The word slave literally came from the fact that the Slavic people were enslaved. Of course that doesn't fit with the narrative that America invented slavery and only black people were ever slaves.

i started in a different thread a distinction.

racism comes worldwide in 2 forms.

leftracism
and rightracism

leftracism seeks to achieve to mix races.

while rightracistm seeks to force them into racial rasters

both, it's not either or it's about recognizing how the world has perpetually exploited blacks, and that now we all must stand up for them because we're all human, we don't chose our parents or how they raised us, but we can choose how to educate our selves on the matter of systemic racism and collectively unlearn the racist subtleties each of us have to better work collectively as a people moving forward into a future where block chain will empower us to develop new systems that work for us all and that can't be destroyed.

slavery is nothing new it always existed, black africans where never as explioited in numbers compared to other nations.

secondly  the term "exploit" has a positive and a negative meaning, when africans where exploited people considered that "usage" not "exploitation" putting wild hunters and gatherers into organised plantation wasn't necessarily something negative, they where likely to die from snakes, animals etc.

race relations can't end as long as we have still a racist mob in the midst of the world, destroying stuff.

further black people are exploiting their mob, to pressure weak politicians to give them stuff, allianating others in the process.

The world is waking up to the injustice of blacks in America, but we are only going to solve racial problems by considering all races equal.

Which is more racist?   A white person saying nigger or a black person claiming only they can use that word.  Either the word is taboo, or it can be equally used by anyone.

Let's acknowledge what we did, apologize, pay reparations - but I feel we should become one single human race before we colonize other worlds.


I heard the term slave used many times in "The Ten Commandments".  Are you saying that movie is not true?   :P

why does the world has to care about that? why are all americans responsible for the "injustice" to blacks in america and not just those that commited them. why do all have to pay reparations to black people and not those that did damage to them? isn't this sick? america is collapsing currently anyway.

maybe black people should simply print their own ICO, and those responsible should buy their coin, and not demand from people that migrated much later into the usa to care about those "black people"

It's not either or.

If all lives matter, then black lives matter.
If black lives don't matter, then all lives don't matter.

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People say they know that all lives matter, they think it does but in reality some people just forget that. They behave and judge differently. Americans should not be judged in general because individually, we are accountable of our actions. Mistreating people due to their color defines how you think of them.
If one of those police have that kind of thinking, it wont ever end up to death..

Acknowledge what "WE" did ?   Who exactly is WE?   I didn't have any slaves, and no one in this lifetime was a slave.
   Pay reparations to who?   Absolutely no one alive today, born and raised in the US was ever a slave.

And with who's money?   Tax money (my money)?   I'll be god damned in I'm paying a cent for something I didn't do to people who weren't affected. 


It's history.  It was history worldwide and commonly accepted.  The US acted before most of the globe did to do the right thing. Get over it

I don't think that's going to work.

The so-called 'white males' have sustained a large amount of abuse for quite a while now with what I consider to be an amazing amount of tolerance.  It's possible that it's 'tolerance' more than 'capitulation' and some groups are estimating this.  Hope so.

It's not going to work out well for the SJW retards and mis-labeled 'minorities' whether the 'white males' (incorrectly) lash out at them, or (correctly) lash out at the real culprits who created the the SJW retards and 'minority' golem for social engineering reasons.  The SJW and minos are simply tools and will lose no matter how things go.  That's baked in already.

The SJW and minos better hope and pray that the so-called 'white males' win in the upcoming struggle because I guarantee the 'white male' group will give the SJW a better outcome than will the designers who programmed them.

If you feel that way, that's great.   Make sure you don't feel proud of the past accomplishments of your country or family if you weren't around to help.  :P

"United States" - ironic name. 

There's a difference between pride and perpetual victimhood. 

If my great great grandfather was killed by your great great grandfather, should you be liable in my civil suit?
Where does it end?

I'll worry about black slavery, as soon as they have the same concerns over Irish and Chinese slavery.

The problem with the "All lives matter" thing isn't the sentiment you get just from the name. By the name, you'd think the all lives matter movement is an amendment in fighting against injustice against all people rather than black people, but its not, its a protest against a protest. Black lives matter doesn't mean that all lives don't matter, if you ask if their tenants specifically state that police brutality is ok if its against other races, they aren't saying it is. They just needed a name that was direct to their point. Sort of like how mothers against drunk driving will allow you to partake if you're a father, or don't have any kids at all.

Straight to the point, all lives matter is absolutely true, but that isn't what the all lives matter movement means.

Brings me back to my original point - we should think of it as just "slavery" and not differentiate the race being enslaved. 

That's ridiculous and just seems to be a "white quilt" thing. The entire thing is far more complicated then.. "lets's just give them some money and wash our hands of it". It's also a subtle.. "I'll give them some money and they'll shut up about it" And who should the reparations come from? A lot of the slaves were purchased from other black people in Africa. So maybe they should pay some reparations. "We" took this land from the native Americans and have used it to all our benefits. And this currently includes black people. So maybe everyone, black, white, Hispanic and so on and so forth should just pay it forward to native Americans. Besides that, in what way do you think that "white people" can or should sit there and decide what a black persons life is worth and thus give them some reparations for that. I've heard from some black people that actually find the idea offensive.

Denmark bans import of slaves into colonies in 1792. Unclear how extensive that was. Britain abolished the slave trade in 1807, the US in 1808. Britain abolished slavery in 1833. In US, emancipation of slaves in 1863, constitution amended 1865.


It's a little hard to "get over it" when you are told you're now an equal citizen and then there's constant "roadblocks" put in your way to actually be an "equal" citizen. Things such as redlining or the Tulsa massacre and so on and so forth just makes it just a tad difficult to "get over it".

The exact date of when slavery was abolished doesn't put into context the fact that there was still inequities in the U.S. based on systemic racism. Reasonably, you could make that argument objectively with Jim Crow up until the 1970's. Problem is that people in the year 2020 will say that systemic racism is so widespread that it creates inequities towards African Americans.

The problem is that it's systematic "oppression" (for lack of a better word) against "poor" people and a large number of them are black people plus the racial biases that are all wrapped in it all as well. And that's why you end up with threads like this. The "intent" of BLM was to draw intention to how black people bare the brunt of that "oppression". It was a poor choice of a name as we've seen because the other groups that also get the short end of the stick so to say pipe up and say.. hey.. what about the shit I go through.. my life matters so all lives matters.. and on and on it goes and people get so wrapped up in arguing about a stupid name as opposed to focusing on the real issues and just getting the shit done.

I think this is generally how policing works in the modern day where the perceived "oppression" isn't actually oppression, just law and order in low income communities that are used to race bait and push political agendas. If you go into low income neighborhoods, they despise police as if it's their fault that they need to enforce the law.


BLM as a organization was founded on illegitimate means anyways. Their whole spiel was that police were killing African Americans in droves and they started their organization in 2014 after the Michael Brown shooting which ruled was legally justified. The Obama Department of Justice even looked into the case and found that the officer was in fact assaulted by Michael Brown and killed him in self defense yet BLM continue to try and claim it was an act of deep seeded racism or oppression. Black lives do matter because every life matters. The BLM group is not well motivated and their message doesn't make any sense which is why "All lives matter" even became a thing. The organization devolved into an anti-cop propaganda group.

jes why do black people then do demands on all white people regarding slavery, despite slavery being on an all time high in africa today

uhm wrong.

black people litterally put their own house on fire in order to force the firefighter and police to constantly only care about their own house so they can rob, the other one.

you are so wrong. on everything its pointless to even listen to the racists and their mob around BLM.

putting your own house on fire and then demonize those still having a house as racists because they allow you to live in their house is racist, other people need air to breathe too.

look at the black loser chicago mayor that embraced the racist mob, now businesses flee chicago.

Of course all lives matter!!! But. All lives matter is not an answer when someone ask you if black lives matter. Right answer is: Yes ,black lives matter.

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why enslave healthy people to serve the chronically ill?

thats slavery.

black people in africa are alone all by themselves and are still all the time in crisis. why are you forcing white people to care about them instead for their own children, you are a racist!

I love watching people like you, who whine and cry like little children about the left and how insane they get with their stuff labeling everything as racist.. and then you do the same thing. I would suggest you learn a new word, bigot.

the left doesnt build anything you retard they only destroy, nothing comes out of them,

yeah, jews we're enslaved in Egypt I get it, but white people kidnapped blacks and brought them over to America to work for them to build their wealth. They didn't ask for this. I think you're not putting yourself in their place when you speak. You got to remember, you are them you are not separate from them. Slavery is not ok. See the bigger picture here, and once you think you see the bigger picture go bigger, sit on the moon if you have to.

ohm no i have no slaver in my famil history slaver owners among white or jewish people where historically a minority, slavery was normal back then, black people sold their enemy tribes to white slavers and wher happy to get money for that.

historically slaving society where not racist but religious. religious enforcment was lethally important to them, in order to prevent distrust, among people.

it is today impossible for nonblack people to go to africa where there is slavery. because sincy everyone can lie, minorities get catched and enslaved.

additionally

have you ever considered how a metalist economy with illiteral people and no printed money at all and no economy stability can work without slavery?

it can't

besides there is a saying among muslims, there is always slavery there is never an absence of it.

the us anti slavery movement does nothing else but selling the slavery through their central bank.

without banks there is no capitalism and everyone is equal -> equally poor, like in the soviet union. us will become like soviet union if leftists continue destroying it, and massive numbers of us businesses will flee to russia.

If you check into the history of Africa, you will find that the slavery over there among the Arabs and various black tribes was hell, compared with the heaven that black slaves came to in America. Sure, there were a few bad slave holders in America. But you don't mistreat your slaves if you want them working hard for you. Rather, you incentivize them. And that is what the vast majority of the slave holders in America did.

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Slaves were extremely expensive in the U.S., and the percentage of people who owned them was low.  On top of that, anyone could own slaves in the U.S., including well-off black people, and that did happen although I believe that it was pretty rare.  At least half of my lilly-white family came to the U.S. long after slavery was abolished, and long after most of the African stock was already there.

Interestingly, Judaism recognizes superiority/inferiority among people prominently, and being a 'trader' of anything as opposed to being a producer is aspired to.  It comes as no surprise that the 'triangle trade' was a relatively Jewish affair and fortunes were amassed by said on the North American continent even prior to the formation of the the U.S..  Funny that BLM and the rest of their ilk seems to forget or never learned these things when identifying 'the' scapegoat to shoulder all of their troubles...if you consider being a natural born citizen of the U.S. rather than of The Congo a 'trouble' which most inhabitants of The Congo probably would not.)  Possibly it is related to (((who))) is responsible for their funding (and likely pretty much all aspects of their creation, organization, strategy, and management.)

exactly getting enslaved on an american plantation by white people was often a much better destiny than getting enslaved by african tribal warlords, that didn't even where able to afford cloths.
or killed by local fauna and flora. which was extremely hostile. not to mention the tribal wars over hunting grounds. people killed each other than over ridiculous unthinkable things.

i doubt reason and black people are comparable.

What about all the people who have Druid ancestors that were enslaved by the Romans? And later by the Catholics?

Just because we were cannibals does not mean our lives don't matter.

Definitely all lives matter.  I think the fact that a group calls themselves Black Lives Matter is misleading to a general public that usually sticks it's head in the sand and doesn't realize
how hypocritical the movement really is.

do you see a single european or middle easterner till today demanding reparations from italians and the city of rome?

Yeah. you see the full picture.  The top dwellers get the vast majority  to fight with each other and make money on them.

Meanwhile the rich become richer driving the rest of us downwards while we fight over topics like this.

of course black lives matter
of course white lives matter
of course yellow lives matter
of course brown lives matter
of course red lives matter
of course mixed color lives matter
of course all lives matter


all of the above are true.

The point here is the cycle of the rich crushing the air out of all of the rest of us.    it the issue  that is very rarely spoken about.

of course, All Lives matter...
we should not be racists who only see someone based on their skin color, everyone who lives in this world is important except murderers, rapists, corruptors who are the world's trash.

well thats what george floyd was.

That was really unfortunate event. But everyone should instill the concept that all lives matter. Most that still have racist ideology up until today are those that have not been out of their country or out of their comfort zone. Try traveling and learning the culture of other people, and you will be more humble on who you are.

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its actually even vice versa itally is nowadays constantly demanding money from other europeans and causing financial fraud.

Cannibals' lives are more important because they are giving new life to dead people. Of course, in the movie Quest for Fire, when they ate somebody, they at him a piece at a time, keeping him alive as long as they could. During a journey, this meant that they didn't have to hunt for fresh meat so often.

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It sounds like you're giving up on progression, where we all benefit and no one feels oppressed. It seems like you believe so much that we reached our capacity of social performance that you almost want to go back to slave labor and keep people oppressed, the oppressed demand progress, and they deserve it, and we owe it to our children to come up with new solutions to achieve prosperity for all. It seems like a lot of people on this thread hold themselves above others. We got a long way to go, I guess roughly another century when the ugly beliefs die with them all and the new generation can begin imagining where our feeble minds can't. We need a real revolution of spiritual inner work, you can't deny the root truths of life. That we are all derived from one, we love where we come from, and that love is the truth. We can all prosper in that collective basic understanding. We are not separate, eliminate your separatism. Show empathy for the oppressed. We can not chose where we're born or who are parents are. YOU could have been born into the violent disgusting circumstances that many were born into. Step outside yourself and your intellectual bubble.
Witness the truth! It's a simple simple thing to do.

there will always be oppressed people the world isn't how you think it is, its not wordly there is a divine aspect that defines the capital, the powerful and the slaves, just because people in the west today abolish direct slavery, doesnt mean there is a way to get rid of financial slavery. people will desire financial slavery which is called capitalism, for good reasons.

there will be no progress anymore civilisation now is crushing down, savages have outnumbered the good people.

no justice no peace is a completely pointless demand, because how do you define justice? total egalitarianism like in the soviet union also got opposed.

true justice is god given. the chosen one by god, gets the power of being the ruler/king.

he then spreads gods message as part of his legitimacy.

throne and relgion goes hand in hand. peopel trust in god and god guides them to fruitition. this is how civilisation in truth works.

the pseudoatheist usa. is secretly run by god, the more the rise up against god, the further they fall.

now they have entered the stage in which they are in a conflict with themselves.

The recent violence and riots in the USA is a surge of the few, for whom no lives matter; driven by the corrupt, for whom only power and money matters.

nowadays information is not neutral anymore and everyone is distorting it to his advantage.

that's disheartening to hear that people feel the way you do, we're moving away from capitalism as we know it, and need to think of solutions that can benefit us all. Like I work 9-5 and I agree that I'm a financial slave, but I get to choose what I do to make money, or if I don't want to make any money at all I can go sleep under the bridge. I'm just saying there will be progress and block chain proves it. We need to embrace tech and start working together to solve many of the worlds problems with it. I feel like as soon as we stop thinking we're separate from the people from other continents and start embracing our equality we can develop systems by the people for the people that renders our current systems nearly obsolete. I guess I'm writing a sci-fi movie, but if it's not Generation Z that does it it will be another, unless we're toppled by the military before they let us solve these problems for ourselves.

i am ok with that, i just pointed out that 99% of people are always somehow slaves.

It should be all lives matter but the problem is, the people saying that are usually disingenuous.  Just ask them if the lives of immigrants, criminals or drug addicts matter to test it out.   If your ideology was "all states matter", you wouldn't have a problem embracing and being a part of "Louisiana mattters" after a hurricane or "California matters" after wildfires.  "All lives matter" is a protest to "black lives matter".  They don't mean it.

Do any lives matter?


Less than two weeks ago people were going to jail for congregating outside. Why? Covid lockdowns.

Lol :D !!!

Now they are congregating in the thousands, and taking over local governments, and marching, and cops are bowing down to them.

Both the Covid pandemic and the "... Lives Matter" thing are fake agitation, the only way left for the perpetrators to get the USA to fall.

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if black people would protest police violence against all races they would also get less threat for black people, but they prefer the racist BLM trash, they will end up being hated everywhere and considered to be racists

I believe all lives matter. But unfortunately, we still see many people killed in the street, even for kids, women, or older men. Besides that, we know that thing is to happen in all countries, and not just in the big region because if one person has power, he can use the ability to kill someone he doesn't like. The police can only prevent, but the story still goes on.

Totally all lives matter.
However, we see that Black lives are on the corner and people - especially police officers - do not respect them.
There is just the facts that sparks the Black lives matter to rise as many black skin people are attacked in the streets.

Its all about the votes and this latest hashtag is nothing more than the usual operation to create a cult and weaponize it through public shaming of people and companies who don't go along with the cult mantra.Reason and all rational thought are shunned in favor of emotional blackmail and deceit.Black people should understand they are being manipulated for the benefit of the few and those few will be far worse for their future than what is currently on the menu.Make no mistake,having a black or white official making decisions in high office is irrelevant as they both sit at the same table.They are united while you the "common" people are to be divided and set against one another.Its called dystopia "communism" for you and utopia "socialism" for them.

Karen and Kevin are just "useful idiots" who have never endured the reality of struggle but little do they realize  that the "utopia" they sing and chant about is the very opposite of what is planned for them."Useful idiots" are the most treacherous to civilization and in a good degree destroyers of it.Kevin and Karen need to volunteer at some local business facing closure after the "pandemic" instead of blindly serving their purpose as lab rats and being complicit in their own demise and that of their fellow citizens.The hypocrisy of Kevin and Karen during the "pandemic" was astounding as they applauded the very same cops who "accosted" mothers and their children from playgrounds and hair salon owners who dared attempt to open their business and the very same officials who threatened jail time and ridiculous fines to these citizens attempting to enforce their constitutional rights.

Today Kevin and Karen are applauded by these very same officials and knelt before by these same cops as they loot and and rampage across the nation adding more insult and injury to the law abiding citizens who have been under house arrest during the "pandemic" and the business owners who have been hollowed out watching their stores burn.

Anyone with even just 10% of their brain functioning can see this is a script being played right up to election time and every time by treacherous entities and individuals manipulating black people this time and creating division.


The function of government and its agents is to SERVE and protect the constitutional rights of every citizen and create an environment that allows those rights to flourish.This is what they are EMPLOYED to do.They do the OPPOSITE of what they are supposed to do.The function of government these days seemingly is to pander to every trendy hashtag and whatever other diversion is available to divert attention away from the fact they are destroying the rights of every citizen who is not in the "club"

Every citizen of all races,creeds,religions and colors have been divided and set against each other since it began and black people not accepting the fact their black lives matter movement is actually going to achieve the opposite of which it is intended because of its exclusive nature pandering only to the black people.This going to set divisions and resentment as intended among those whose lives apparently matter less these days and sow the seeds of hate creating a a huge cataclysm in our societies who will in the end direct their full rage towards the very atheist and destructive culture destroying our civilisation unless this hysteria ceases and desists in its provocations however this is not likely to stop until the script has fully played out and the "few" have achieved thier goals and the whole of humanity is under the iron rod.

~true story ;D

Yes, that's sad, but true. Trump cautioned the black community about this multiple times during his election. The first time I saw him talk about running for POTUS was 2015, very early, and he spoke alongside a black man who had lost his son to mindless gang violence in the ghetto.

He said he would build up the minority communities.

Now certain elements would burn them down.

this is exactly like in palestine,

whenever you give to your enemy something they burn it down with a riot later, like savages

antiracism is communism of 21 century.

palestinian capitalists are no communists they want the jews only as their slaves nothing else.

there will never be real peace, because as soon as there would be a palestinian state there would be immediately financial fraud, after financial fraud there will be arab nationalism, racism, anti white racism etc.

all that in order to force the other one to do what someone else want.

since human greed is unlimited conflict doesn't end anytime.

I don't see the Irish asking for reparations from the British either.In fact they would probably have endured the worst levels of oppression from colonial power.I think approximately 40% were even starved to death while the wheat and other food resources were at the same time shipped to Britain.

The Irish fortunately look rationally at what was then and what is now.As far as I know they are still Britain's largest economic trading partner today although this may have changed in the last few years.

This is an interesting video on the history of their oppression and many of our Black lives matter friends and colleagues might do well to see how this "whitest of white" race suffered simply because of their refusal to "kneel" before the crown.  https://youtu.be/WHr9GRgRw_M  #whiteprivilege

To all my Black friends and persons of differing races,creeds and colors I once again say you are being played with the old divide and rule tactic  :)

god made this world in a way that only those beliving in him the most are being sovereign all others are meant to be their slaves. it will always be this way.

99% of people where slaves all over the world i will not listen to that black racist crap anymore, no one is as racist as black people

Blacks brutalize and exploit blacks the same as whites brutalize and exploit whites and vice versa.They have to realize this is not a race issue and look at the statistics and the ratios of who is committing the most violent crimes more frequently and by the law of averages is most likely to come into a lethal situation with law enforcement.

This does not excuse the reckless behavior of officers who use lethal force when it is not necessary however this can also be attributed to individual personalities and attitudes within an institution more than it being a systemic problem the same way it can be attributed to the difference between gang culture among some black males and academic culture among other black males/or females (for purposes of equality 8)

The same above applies to white/ hispanic / asian criminal behavior/culture v academic etc etc.

The black lives matter movement have to look at the underlying facts and the whole truth more than the selective truths being thrown out there to feed the hysteria by the very people who are manipulating them :)

I've been to both Sierra Leone and Rwanda among other places and have seen and heard first hand examples of this.Not to mention the historical savagery committed among their own race simply due to tribal differences.

There should be only one race made up of unique and diverse individuals with each individual respecting each others differences having the freedom to determine their own destiny protected by a wholly fair and inclusive constitution that allocates quotas and tasks based on merit and suitability and a government that works to underwrite such freedom but instead they undermine it. #humanrace

these tribal indifferences where power struggles no one wants to work and do sacrifices and tried to find others as idiots to work for them, thats why africans migrate around the world

Back in the time following the Great Flood of Noah's day (about 5,000 years ago), the people WERE one race. As one race, they worked together to attempt to reach the stars by building the Tower of Babel. God didn't like their attitude, so He split their language among them is some way, that they became different races. The method He used probably changed their physical appearance as we see today.

Odds are that God doesn't like the greatness we have become in some ways. After all, He made all things for us to use But He wanted us to recognize Him in all of it. But we are "advancing" without recognizing Him. And through communications and translations we are becoming one race, again.

Covid and the race riots might look like things that we are perpetrating on ourselves. But they just might be the thing that God is allowing to keep the races separate the way He wants them.

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ther is again unrest in the usa over someone that shot a black man in atlanta usa.

black people try actively to destroy nonblack states and social orders and try to actively undermine the safty and security of nonblack people

if thats not racism what else is? africa is huge, if they thing something like systemic racism exists they can build africa.

If all lives matter than that covers black lives. No?

it actually does depending on neutrality of black people. if black people act racist (what they do) people automatically become defensive, what black people then see as racism

All lives matter unless the person is a selfish criminal. The type that would kill you, scam old ladies out of their lives savings, and so on. So I guess not all lives matter. Also looters.

this news is very popular on all social media...
even from what I read, Atlanta police chief Erika Shields resigned over this incident, it looks like the US police have to undergo a psychiatric test before becoming a police.

i doubt making your country nice for black people is a great idea, look at italy you only get punished to be a good guy.

its sometimes better to be feared then to be loved was once said by machiavelli.

As an european, I have no respect for the black lives matter movement. I feel like they're trying to turn everything into a debate about racism.
A black man gets killed while robbing a store? He was obviously klilled because he was black. People should see how ridiculous this situation is.
Soon a black guy will be able to take a shit on your lawn and if you say something you'll have a group of his friends protesting and throwing rocks at your windows.

they are racists, why else do they have so much problems with the police?

I don't think a few lives here and there matter that much at all compared to the amount of lives sacrificed to achieve what they are trying to tear down over just a few..

This BLM movement has become a bastardized abomination and has literally transformed into Criminals vs Cops.

Anyone find it interesting that this only flares up during election years?

its sometimes better to be feared than to be loved machiavelli once said, considering europes migration crisis, and americas problems

most white people are pro diversity but since, africand are constantly pushing so lobbyistic,

the better long term solution would be to be feared

If Black Lives Matter is the name of an organization, it doesn't matter... except maybe to the members.

If  Black  Lives  Matter  as people, then they matter just like any other people.

If the organization called Black Lives Matter has a bunch of people that harm other people and their property, Trump needs to designate them a terrorist organization just like Antifa.

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They're only saying black lives matter right now because black people are the ones blackmailing the government into giving them money to stop robbing people's stores.
Obviously, everyone's lives matters.  :D

the problem is black people try to make their lives matter based on ressources of others, and that is rightwise where they are being exploited, but there where many white people that never have exploited them anyhow, and secondly not being exploited can be a bad desinty.

Hey! The IRS isn't made up of only black people.     8)

Nice man well said  ;)

It looks like Karen's baby's life doesn't matter :(

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You're either on the side of the oppressor or your fighting against any and ALL kind of oppression. There are two tribes here. Us ending oppression, you benefiting from it. BLM is just a cog in the wheel of the idea of America, Liberty and justice for all, we the people, we are fighting for this version of America for us all. Not just blacks, but jews, native Americans, Armenians, ALL OF US.

there is no such thing as "oppressor" all oppressed become oppressors once they end up having to manage their own order.

there is only movement and attitute A and movement and attitute B

you are only destroying, nothing else. it will end up with same with similar order. you just want to fire the currently hired and replce them with yourselves

So, are we giving each other wisdom? Or are we wannabe oppressors?

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From my point of view, no matter what color of your skin or your physical appearance or your financial status in life, every lives of a human beings matter, that is why we should stop racism and other discrimation in this world because it could start a war in the future. Don't you want to live in this world with peace and no conflict, and live with your family happily ever after. People should stop the toxicity and hate because it won't lead us for making ourselves a better person.

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^^^Sane person's response would be ...Let's not talk,let's boycott this anti-white racism and discriminatory behavior by L'oreal and send them on a history lesson to rwanda.Notice how they refer to the white race as "Your" race and not "our" race.

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All lives matters,but in some countries black people re treated like a slave which is not good enough,

Black people are sold as slaves by other Non White people,mainly in Africa.Why no protests there?

whataboutism

"hey I realize people around you are being oppressed and killed almost daily, but what about the people on the other side of the world who have it worse?  Why aren't you complaining about their conditions?"

There have been plenty of protests in countries like Kenya and South Africa recently.

Floyd’s Death in U.S. Spurs Protests and Outrage Across Africa
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-06-02/floyd-s-death-in-u-s-spurs-protests-outrage-across-africa

It's a global movement.


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that mob that is protesting against racism is racist itself but is to stupid to get that

why are people of other races supposed to put their income on the neverending refugees of people from a different race?

As a matter of fact, all lives matter, of course. But I do support the BLM movement in essence, mostly because it's too obvious that they're being put down and neglected by a lot of people who are prejudicial against people of color.

LIVES MATTER.........   

If you need a color in front of those words, you're the racist.

We thought we were stuck with Covid this time around. But it seems like it has turned into the Black Plague.

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All lives matter, but I would have to disagree with the notion that if you say Black Lives Matter... that you're automatically a racist.

But just to put things in perspective and try to put yourself in their shoes, that if you're always being singled out and being a target all your life because of your color (or else this wouldn't be an issue at all), then you've got to somehow at least understand where the cry for BLM is coming from.  :(

I have seen variations of this BLM propaganda recently, and it is very misleading.

The propaganda you posted relies on the assumption that racist police are killing black people all the time, and this is simply not true. When controlling for the number of arrests, black people are killed at a far lower rate than white people are by police. Looking at interracial murder rates, a white person is far more likely to be killed by a black person than vice versa.

This is wrong. The phrase "BLM" implies that Black lives matter more. In a country of 300 million people, there are plenty of non-black people who are killed under bad circumstances, and none of the BLM activisists racists even bat an eye.

exactly they are sabotaging law enforcment in non black countries with their violent mob.

usa is currently losing law enforced regions to racist ob law enforcement.

I wonder what would happen to a white academic's reputation and career if they used the same verbiage only this time replacing the term "white" with "black" ?  ;D









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Next on the agenda is turning white wives against their white husbands  ;) ;)

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The very definition of racism is when one cannot interchange such words in a sentence freely and without being attacked.

Choosing either Black lives matter or all lives matter is quite unfair. If I choose black I give them much more importance over the others,  while choosing all lives matter is simply saying that the even the worst evil person deserves equal value which is the possible lack of appropriate justice wouldn't be given.Therefore I would say lives matter not "all lives matter nor black lives matter".

Move aside BLM.We have new new allies incoming  ;D   

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Indeed. ALL progressive concepts, that they'd like to "TRY OUT" on the rest of the population.

Two things they all have in common.

They incorporate a transfer of power to those who advocate these "issues."
The actual proposed change is ridiculous and nonsensical.

Two things all the people illustrated have in common.

The believe devoutly in their "cause."
They don't know who upstream is actually yanking their chains.

This whole thing is built on a foundation of lies.

Defund the police
More training
Racist cops
Trigger happy cops
Etc...

Two important numbers, and even basic math can reveal the truth:

Over 10 million arrests per year.
Then find the number of UNJUSTIFIED deaths at the hand of police.  Usually less than 10-12 per year.

That should give you a successful survival rate of around 99.999988% when being arrested by police.

Training of humans that has a 99.999988% success rate sounds pretty good to me.

The success rate can also be increased further if you remove suspects who resisted arrest from the deaths.
Now imagine, if you will, removing suspects who were not committing crime from the numbers....   whoa, mind blown.

Honestly, there won't be cries for BLM if there wasn't any injustice to the handling of George Floyd's arrest which led to his death instead.

Although I voted (above) for All Lives Matter, mostly because I am not actually Black, but it doesn't remove the fact that I support their cries and calls towards attaining justice.

Also, the various crimes of indifference committed against Blacks on a daily basis in the United States of America has blown the matter out of proportion, because it's becoming pretty obvious and rampant lately.

More importantly, racism is defined as "a belief that race is the primary determinant of human traits and capacities and that racial differences produce an inherent superiority of a particular race."

And if you're not oblivious to the fact, then you are most likely contributing to the propagation of this continuing problem as well.

What the fuck are you talking about?

You know... the ones committed by other blacks.  But it's whitey's fault.

And look how the definition of racism changes to suit a belief.

It used to be properly defined as: discriminating against, or treating someone differently based solely on their race. Or believing one race is superior or inferior to another.
 

how can women be for defunding the police, the police is ensuring they have today more freedom than ever before.

"Why Are Black Conservatives Called Uncle Tom?—Larry Elder Talks George Floyd Protests & New Film"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vbhFubiFiqg

Mo Saadallah, brother of Reading stabber Khairi Saadallah, claims his brother was acting in "self defence" when stabbing three people in a public park, and that Britain is simply a racist county.

Mo lists current employment with Amnesty international and Human Rights Watch.

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I can assure you that this black supremacist is nothing more than a minion of a greater scheme.A mere cog in the wheel that is increasing speed at a greater rate daily.This useful idiot is stoking extremism among the black community but appealing to a reasonably well educated audience this time.While he pokes and prods with his warped idealogy he is clamouring to the hope students,educators and policy makers will become more radicalised with intolerance towards white males and assume also that a radicalised white female population will join the "revolution" in subdueing the white male once and for all.All actions in the end cause a reaction and this is his objective.He assumes the volatile white males who are ignorant of the fact he is a dangerous agitator will react violently to policies which suppress them further ensuring a more repressive approach is used against them in order to subdue them if this happens.It is enevitable that the goal is to cause a social cataclysm where the white is seen as the violent rabble which needs to be kept in check.Little does he know that he will also be subdued under the same rod once his level of usefulness has been exhausted ;-)


Any "minority" can get away with racism towards whites because its not politically sensitive however for arguments sake lets say I am jewish and state the TRUE fact that Jews played probably the largest role in slave holding and trade during the colonial era and post revolutionary era I would not be attacked but if a christian white stated the same facts they would be labeled as a racist or white supremacist, the excuse would be "this is because whites did not endure the holocaust" yet if you ask any Armenian,they would beg to differ...or if I were black and state the TRUE fact that back in this same post civil war era Black freemen held probably more black slaves than whites in many states I would be correct in stating these facts  whereas if I were white and stated these facts I would be labeled with the same tired old slandering because "whites were not victims of slavery" but this is false because whites from many parts of the world WERE victims of slavery and colonial oppression.Just ask any Irish person.

The key point here is that it is open season on whites and the most racism  today is being directed at straight white males and anyone who disagrees with his mantra is a racist,toxic male,white supremacist,alt right etc etc all the while insidious forces rewrite or misrepresent historical facts and dismiss the same facts as theory or incorrect.History is being rewritten and in some cases where they can get away with it without any consequence erased completely.

The root of this weed is within our global institutions especially "thinktanks",non independent media,colleges,universities and all hijacked arenas of civil discourse where the loudest radical using the latest forms of subversive linguistics to prey upon the most feeble minds gets the most likes and goes viral like a pandemic shitstorm.This in turn breeds a whole new brainwashed electorate who have little more power than a slave has to select his next master.Government then labels this as public service which in effect is anything but service however the population by then has a completely warped sense of what public service means or should mean.

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No, actually I have no clue what a "crime of indifference" is.

very well thought out post.  we are being divided and pulled closer and closer to extreme mentalities that most would not have considered just a couple years ago.  theres so much chaos and outrage now that most americans cant or wont step back and try to look at the situation without letting the emotions from your personal nationality or race or political or religious views influence your thoughts.

The answer to the OP is yes BOTH black and white lives matter as do all lives who are not attempting to take the life or dignity of others but this hijacked movement (suitable host for these parasites) is only another example of late stage Cultural Marxist Social Engineering for a Post Democratic society.Private members clubs who have been determining your very future whether you like it or not have hundreds of thousands of alumini,key policy makers,legislators,Places within the Judicial system (where key battles are fought and won or lost for your freedom V their tyranny),Key corporate sectors who dominate commodity,banking and now the tech sectors,The backbone or spinal media layers,pipes and conduits who supply narrated and preselected "news" to national private and public outlets,feeds throughout the world. You get the picture.These are the people who are focused on destroying US leadershup throughout the world and are now so well embedded withing the critical US societal dna that its only a matter of time they get their way due to their gradual tactic enabled by the fact the Public and Civil service are unelected and this is where they operate on the ground and their fieldwork is deployed.
The "silent majority" of rational and reasonable moderate class of all colors and creeds are equally to blame with their indifference and apathy while the vindictive marxists become louder and bolder in their tactics and it will be too late when a cataclysm happens that provides the ideal crisis and pretext for the next stage of implementation.They and their useful idiots couldn't care less about and make a mockery of genuine victims of injustice.

Oh, many illicit things must have occurred in that moonlight, proof is the countless crop circles in the fields.

I laughed at the Archbishop's tweet when I read it thinking it was a joke until I saw it was an actual real event. ;D


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