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⚪️ Hello to everyone,

To date, we did not post anything in this forum except the bounties we managed. We have been silent and so patient about the slanders about us. We had been focused on our job and did our best to manage the bounties we were hosting.

We have enough proof and arguments for some accusations about us, mostly spread by competitor bounty managers or their friends. We will acknowledge the facts in detail with several proofs.

We are okay with the competition. Already any business, not having competitors, has no chance to improve itself. However, unfair competition should not be tolerated; slanders should not damage people's business. The crypto community is on the same boat, especially honest and honorable people in this forum, and the industry should stay against these kinds of hateful and slanderer people for a securer industry.

It will be a long post, but instead of publishing several topics, we would prefer to share everything in the same thread. We will publish six topics in this thread:

⚪️ Topic 1) Summary of the Bounties Managed by Bounty Detective

We have managed 40 bounties within one year. 23 of those bounty rewards have successfully been distributed. 4 bounties are still ongoing, one bounty distribution is ongoing and 5 bounties are waiting for the distribution deadline. From 39 projects, 5 projects shutted-down, only Kingcasino and Excore involved an exit scam.

Thus, the claims by some people saying, "Most of the Bounty Detective's bounties are not distributed" is not valid; it is vice versa. Most of our bounties have been distributed and the tokens/coins have value.

Below you can see the project details and today's value of the bounty rewards managed by Bounty Detective:


✅ DISTRIBUTED BOUNTIES

✔️ 1) HEX Bounty (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5212901.0)

  02.11.2020 Value: ~$660,000

  Total Reward: 50,000,000 HEX

  Listed Exchanges: Hotbit (https://www.hotbit.io/exchange?symbol=HEX_USDT), BitMart (https://www.bitmart.com/) , Uniswap (https://uniswap.exchange/swap/0x2b591e99afe9f32eaa6214f7b7629768c40eeb39), etc.

✔️ 2) HackenAI Bounty (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5238602)

  02.11.2020 Value: ~$23,242

  Total Reward: 1,000,000 HAI

  Listed Exchanges: Oceanex (https://oceanex.pro/trades/haibtc)), Bitrue (https://www.bitrue.com/trading?market=usdt&symbol=haiusdt), Uniswap (https://uniswap.exchange/swap/0x05fb86775fd5c16290f1e838f5caaa7342bd9a63), BitMart (https://support.bmx.fund/hc/en-us/articles/360052573753-Hacken-Token-HAI-).

✔️ 3) ARCS Bounty (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5244177.0)

  02.11.2020 Value: ~$25,500

  Total Reward: 85,000 ARX

  Listed Exchanges: KuCoin (https://www.kucoin.com/trade/ARX-USDT), ProBit (https://www.probit.com/app/exchange/ARX-USDT).

 ✔️ 4) Ludena Protocol Bounty (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5250950.0)

  02.11.2020 Value: ~9300$

  Total Reward: 24 ETH

✔️ 5) EarnBet Bounty (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5224765.0)

  02.11.2020 Value: ~8300$

  Total Reward: 35,000 XRP

✔️ 6) Gaimin Bounty (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5225201.0)

  Total Reward: 10,000,000 GMRX

  Listed Exchanges: Planned to be listed on Probit

✔️7) IOI Game Bounty (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5238309)

  02.11.2020 Value: ~$4000

  Total Reward: 160,000 TRX

  Note: 10,000 TRX has been distributed by Bounty Detective Team as an extra.

✔️ 8) HOM Token Bounty (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5250951.0)

  Total Reward: 1,280,000 HOMT

  Listed Exchanges: Probit


✔️ 9) Optimus Bounty (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5219579.0)

  Total Reward: 900,000,000 OPTX

  Listed Exchanges: Optimus (https://trade.optimus.exchange/trade/OPEX-BTC).


✔️ 10) AMZ Coin Bounty (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5210456.msg53372231#msg53372231)

   02.11.2020 Value: ~$450,000

   Total Reward: 3,500,000 AMZ

   Listed Exchanges: Collubus (https://pro.collubus.com/), Alcor (https://alcor.exchange/markets/AMZ-amzcoinvault), Evodex (https://evodex.io/exchange)

✔️ 11) DACX Bounty (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5197112.msg52923519#msg52923519)

  Total Reward: 2,500,000 DACX

  Listed Exchanges: Not listed yet.

✔️ 12) SGC Coin Bounty (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5194641.msg52827323#msg52827323)

  Total Reward: 300,000 SGC
  Listed Exchanges: Not listed yet.

✔️ 13) Crypto Commonwealth Bounty (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5230013)

  Total Reward: 1,363,000 CBND

  Listed Exchanges: Not listed yet.

✔️ 14) TerraCredit Bounty (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5260785.0)

  02.11.2020 value: ~$2700

  Total Reward: 750,000 CREDIT

  Listed Exchanges: Hotbit (https://www.hotbit.io/exchange?symbol=CREDIT_USDT), Bitforex (https://www.bitforex.com/en/spot/credit_usdt), CREX24 (https://crex24.com/exchange/CREDIT-USDT), Terrabit (https://www.terra-bit.io/), Catex (https://www.catex.io/trading/CREDIT/USDT)

✔️ 15) Candela Coin Bounty (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5267259)

  Total Reward: 4,000,000 CLA

  Listed Exchanges: Vindax

 ✔️ 16) Invizion Bounty (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5276715)

   Total Reward: 100,000 NVZN
  
   Listed Exchanges: Vindax

✔️ 17) Bounty Detective BNB Bounty (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5281562)

  Total Reward: $5000 worth of BNB

  Listed Exchanges: Binance (https://www.binance.com/en/trade/BNB_USDT), P2PB2B (https://p2pb2b.io/), WhiteBIT (https://whitebit.com/trade/BNB_BTC), HitBTC (https://hitbtc.com/BNB-to-BTC), Bilaxy (https://bilaxy.com/trade/BNB_USDT)

✔️ 18)  Tozex Bounty (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5256002.0)

  Total Reward: 100,000 TOZ

✔️ 19)  HEX Bounty Round 2 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5286632)

  Total Reward: $18000 worth of HEX

  Listed Exchanges: BitMart (https://www.bitmart.com/trade?symbol=HEX_BTC), Hotbit (https://www.hotbit.io/exchange?symbol=HEX_USDT), Uniswap (https://app.uniswap.org/#/swap?outputCurrency=0x2b591e99afe9f32eaa6214f7b7629768c40eeb39), HitBTC (https://hitbtc.com/HEX-to-BTC)

✔️ 20)  Student Coin (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5294605)

  Total Reward: 4,850,000 STC

  Listed Exchanges: Uniswap (https://app.uniswap.org/#/swap?outputCurrency=0xb8B7791b1A445FB1e202683a0a329504772e0E52), Cointiger (https://www.cointiger.com/en-us/#/trade_pro?coin=stc_usdt)

✔️ 21)  MeleCoin Bounty (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5293754)

  Total Reward: 28571 MLC

  Listed Exchanges: P2Pb2b (https://p2pb2b.io/trade/MLC_USDT)

✔️ 22)  Gaimin Bounty Round 2 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5300575)

  Total Reward: 200,000 GMRX

  Listed Exchanges: Planned to be listed on Probit

 ✔️ 23) CorionX Bounty (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5262143.0) 31.12.2020

 Total Reward: 5,500,000 CORX

  Listed Exchanges: Probit (https://www.probit.com/app/exchange/CORX-BTC), Bitmart (https://www.bitmart.com/trade/en?symbol=CORX_BTC), Uniswap (https://app.uniswap.org/#/swap?inputCurrency=0x26a604DFFE3ddaB3BEE816097F81d3C4a2A4CF97&outputCurrency=0xc02aaa39b223fe8d0a0e5c4f27ead9083c756cc2)

✔️ 24) BCMC Bounty (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5307843)

 Total Reward: 5,000,000 BCMC

  Listed Exchanges: P2PB2B (https://p2pb2b.io/trade/BCMC1_ETH), Tokpie (https://tokpie.com/view_exchange/BCMC1-ETH)


✅ Distribution Ongoing:

  1) 3WM Bounty (2,000,000 3WM)


✅ Awaiting Distribution Deadline:



1) Juiice Bounty 2021 (1,250,000,000 JUI)
2) Ezystayz Bounty (Waiting for the team's update) (30,000,000 EZY)
3) Bintex Bounty (333,333 BNTX)
4) MoonDeFi Bounty
5) Smarts Finance Bounty

✅ Ongoing Bounties

1) Cyclops Finance Bounty (Escrowed)
2) CCM Bounty (Escrowed)
3) BeforeCoinMarketCap (Escrowed)
4) Prasaga Bounty


As a summary, the total current value of the above listed tokens/coins is over $1,000,000 excluding the ones that have not been listed yet, pending for distribution and not having enough volume on the exchanges yet. The total value is calculated regarding 2nd of November, 2020 exchange prices.

If we suppose the 5 pending bounties distributed (Already 2 of them are guaranteed by Bounty Detective), our success ratio will be almost %80. We don't think anyone having even one neuron will say, "Most of the Bounty Detective projects haven't been distributed."

Note: Blobflow, 1st Trade, and COI were not scam projects, they were crypto start-ups, which did not succeed and failed their ICOs, so they shut-down the project. For ICOs and IEOs shutting down a project because of not collecting enough funds is just normal. Anyone calling a project that has refunded all of the collected funds the project as a scam is amateurs of crypto or malignant, and their word has no value.

Besides, every bounty participant has to accept the risk of working for some tokens/coins that may not have any future value.



⚪️ Topic 2) ClipX Bounty


As the majority of our followers know, Bounty Detective is a subsidiary of Airdrop Detective.

As the Airdrop Detective team, we have been researching and evaluating almost all of the crypto projects for the last three years. We have evaluated tens of thousands of projects over the previous three years. Our two employees' only duty is to review projects daily.

Thus, of course, we have researched the ClipX project in detail regarding several criteria, like all of the projects we deal with.

ClipX is a registered company in Germany with 25k€ initial shares. We have researched their project, their team, token sale details, whitepaper, plagiarism verification, company details, roadmap, social media, and several extra controls. Apart from all this, one of our developers knows the CEO from Germany.

Anyone can check their company details by this link, including their official address: https://www.northdata.de/clipX+GmbH,+Regensburg/HRB+17069

They refunded the small amount of the raised funds, you can see their contract here: https://etherscan.io/token/0x213fbee1394b460eed9d1f87f0066c4ca5b85cea

In Germany, involving a scam is not that easy, and if the ClipX team did so, they would be in big trouble. Furthermore, they used IDnow Gmbh (idnow.io) for KYC verification, a trustworthy company that is live for six years. ClipX CEO claims that they have deleted all of the KYC information, and if anyone has proof for a reverse situation, they can share it with us, so we will also support the victims with our lawyers. To date, we did not get any complaints about that issue. Furthermore, we never recommended people to pass KYC for the ClipX bounty, and clearly warned people passing the KYC for this kind of situation would be their own risk.


The ClipX CEO did not mention that KYC is required for the bounty like the airdrop managed by them. So we did not add the KYC requirement to the bounty. (Proof #1 (https://i.imgur.com/13zM1WR.jpg))

Still, we have rigorously warned the CEO many times, and he told us KYC is legally required. We even talked harshly with him and threatened him to ensure he does not do anything wrong with the passports.  (Proof #2 (https://i.imgur.com/Ax1cW5n.jpg))

We also spoke harshly with him because he deleted his social media and told him that behavior might cause people to worry. (Proof #3 (https://i.imgur.com/C9LdGr3.jpg))

After we checked the previous conversations, we noticed that the CEO asked us for the bounty list to distribute the rewards on the 7th of September, 2020. We required him ten days to finalize the list.  (Proof #4 (https://i.imgur.com/bYHVhW9.jpg))

After the project announced the shut-down, we insisted on giving some rewards to the community to compensate for their time loss, but he did not accept it. Also, we accused their CEO of collecting the KYC information after the project was canceled. However, he told us they decided to shut down the project after their final token sale phase on the 15th of 2020, and they collected the KYC information before their shut-down decision. (Proof #5 (https://i.imgur.com/CADchrV.jpg))


Note: A shut-down project, which refunded every investor, is not an exit scam. Too many projects could not achieve their objective in harsh market conditions. In business life, it is the same. Many companies can't succeed in business and wind up the company. Calling all of those companies as a scam is amateurish or not fair. To date, we have not witnessed any scam proof by them. Although they did wrong not to inform us about KYC for the bounty, it is not proof of being a scam project. Several times, we talked to their CEO and asked all questions on our mind, and they replied to them reasonably.

By the way, we only charged a symbolic fee for managing the ClipX bounty. We accepted that offer to bring the community an extra bounty.

To conclude, we did our best again to protect our community's rights, as we have done several times before. (More proofs on topic 4)



⚪️ Topic 3) KingCasino Bounty

On February 24, 2020, our team researched the KingCasino project and gave a negative rating for them. (Proof #1 (https://i.imgur.com/SfjWUtm.png))

After a while, KingCasino had first contacted us on March 2, 2020, we have seen some improvements in their project, our co-founder charged the fee, but after our quality team's warning, we decided to refund them.  (Proof #2 (https://i.imgur.com/PGUhxI9.png))

Steven asked the reasons for refusing to work with them, and our co-founder told it with reasons. He showed their IEO deal with P2pb2b. (Proof #3 (https://i.imgur.com/9AloMZr.png), Proof #4 (https://i.imgur.com/RziaWk6.png), Proof #5 (https://i.imgur.com/QiYaAMu.png))

He then sent their license from Gaming Curacao, but our quality team still required extra days for further research. (Proof #6 (https://i.imgur.com/f95UQKX.png), Proof  #7 (https://i.imgur.com/uRtVbNx.png), Proof #8 (https://i.imgur.com/4nh2oST.png), Proof #9 (https://i.imgur.com/GKqKg6k.jpg))

Our co-founder still did not reply to them properly. On those days, other services were working with them or begging to work with them. (Proof #10 (https://i.imgur.com/Q4o9fmQ.png), Proof #11 (https://i.imgur.com/v4veMVR.png), Proof #12 (https://i.imgur.com/iPZEA0T.png))

However, the KingCasino team did not stop contacting us, and from March 9 to March 18 he wrote to us regularly and every time they sent documents/details about their project.  (Proof #13 (https://i.imgur.com/Yb8jzig.png), Proof #14 (https://i.imgur.com/t5I556Y.png), Proof #15 (https://i.imgur.com/77v2FQE.png), Proof #16 (https://i.imgur.com/C1FLZZ6.png))

On March 24 he asked us again, and we also refused to work with them. (Proof #17 (https://i.imgur.com/r5doWKM.png))

On March 26 their other teammate contacted us, but we again refused them. (Proof #18 (https://i.imgur.com/pPk5SmF.png), Proof #19 (https://i.imgur.com/67V4Hrf.png), Proof #20 (https://i.imgur.com/Fgdm3tZ.png))

After ten days, Steven informed us their platform is live. However, we required three more days.

As everyone can see in the screenshots, that conversation took almost 40 days, and we refused them several times.

After their further improvements our team did some more research, and at the latest, we accepted their offer. Because:

a) They had a license from Gaming Curacao
b) They completed the IEO deal with two medium-sized exchanges.
c) They had a working product, making it difficult and illogical for an exit scam.
d) They published the team's LinkedIn profiles, and some of their team members had high-quality profiles with good connections.
e) They were ready to give us the reward tokens as an escrow, and the bounty reward pool was better than average.

Many people know the story when all is said and done; they involved an exit scam and aggrieved the community and us. They have also scammed us; they never paid most of our service fee.

As everyone can see, we did elaborative research and due diligence about that project. However, due to reasons beyond our control, the project involved an exit scam.

The goal should be not to promote scam projects purposely; otherwise, these kinds of unluckiness are just typical in business. The point should be to minimize the risk. In crypto, it is not possible to %100 avoid scam projects.

Because of our team's attention and detailed evaluations, Bounty Detective's project success ratio is faraway better in comparison with most other bounty managers. (Please go to topic 3 for details)






⚪️ Topic 4) The Legitimacy and Honesty of Airdrop Detective and its Partners.

As we told in previous topics, we do research most of the projects daily, even the scam ones. We do additional research and due diligence for the projects which we are about to deal with.

Hundreds of projects contact us every month, and many of them are ready to work with us. However, we reject most of those job offers because they don't match our criteria. To date, we have refused thousands of those kinds of proposals. We have refunded too many projects after we detected some problems before beginning to work with them:
 
Proof #1 (https://i.imgur.com/0vnHaOY.jpg), Proof #2 (https://i.imgur.com/iYuIdmP.jpg), Proof #3 (https://i.imgur.com/gMAjQ7c.jpg), Proof #4 (https://i.imgur.com/ECxKT0l.jpg), Proof #5 (https://i.imgur.com/eYxyeJw.jpg), Proof #6 (https://i.imgur.com/BY096cM.jpg), Proof #7 (https://i.imgur.com/CVdlEAH.jpg), Proof #8 (https://i.imgur.com/siKBPI3.jpg), Proof #9 (https://i.imgur.com/c5Y4PtQ.jpg), Proofs #10 (https://i.imgur.com/JpdjLiy.jpg), Proof #11 (https://i.imgur.com/1KcEEKN.jpg), Proof #12 (https://i.imgur.com/hehHmYv.png), Proof #13 (https://i.imgur.com/nZ8MHV0.jpg), Proof #14 (https://i.imgur.com/zpmEFvZ.jpg), Proof #15 (https://i.imgur.com/db7T9cS.jpg), Proof #16 (https://i.imgur.com/nu6hTN2.png), Proof #17 (https://i.imgur.com/bSKZ1o7.png), Proof #18 (https://i.imgur.com/hMIhXze.png), Proof #19 (https://i.imgur.com/FoBe8Qu.png), Proof #20 (https://i.imgur.com/FSghWf2.png), Proof #21 (https://i.imgur.com/khnkBzB.png), Proof #22 (https://i.imgur.com/ekWqDrw.png), Proofs #23 (https://i.imgur.com/EEKPtPV.png), Proof #24 (https://i.imgur.com/YR0ZqyU.png), Proofs #25 (https://i.imgur.com/awPeIkl.png), Proof #26 (https://i.imgur.com/0fhGPYH.png), Proof #27 (https://i.imgur.com/o2OCZcm.png), Proof #28 (https://i.imgur.com/TFCQtoW.png), Proof #29 (https://i.imgur.com/jSLAIeV.jpg), Proof #30 (https://i.imgur.com/MAPCO35.jpg), Proof #31 (https://i.imgur.com/jV8u3zf.jpg), Proof #32 (https://i.imgur.com/52SU4Pc.jpg), Proof #33 (https://i.imgur.com/uIJZ88N.jpg)

We can provide hundreds of more screenshots similar to these kinds of conversations. Untrustworthy people don't do that. They take the money without any due diligence.

Unfortunately, we see those project airdrops or bounties managed/promoted by other platforms after we refuse those kinds of projects ready to pay us. We have observed that most airdrop and bounty platforms don't take seriously the legitimacy of the projects; they only care about money.

Interestingly, some jealous competitors or their briber guys might claim the most careful airdrop and bounty platform not doing due diligence. If we already refuse at least %90 of the paid job offers, how can some people claim we accept every job proposal? Is it how Bitcointalk works? "Mud Sticks"

Airdrop Detective and its partner platforms have completed thousands of deals including OKEx exchange, Charlie Lee, WAVES, Atomic Wallet, Richard Heart, etc. We are still in contact with several top projects worldwide.

No one has flagged us for being untrustworthy except our previous employee, xenon131 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1037701), who we fired from the Korean Translation job because he was trying to pull strings for himself. Indeed, we did not let it, and we treated him equally, which made him crazy. The red trust that the guy gave to us is for a personal issue, which can't be acceptable for Bitcointalk's process.

Please read the fifth topic for the proofs.


⚪️Topic 5) Some legendary and hero accounts on the forum abusing their ranks for personal benefits and threatening people.

Assertion: Bounty Detective is not trustworthy; they left in the lurch the bunch of Bitcointalk users. You can see the profile of the guy claiming this because we fired him from bounty translation job: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1037701

As the majority of our followers know, that kind of assertion is ridiculous. Please see some examples of how we support our community below:

1) We advised TerraCredit CEO to triple the bounty rewards. (#Proof 1 (https://i.imgur.com/GEWL7wB.jpg))
2) We added 10K from our pocket to the IOI bounty.  (#Proof 2 (https://i.imgur.com/AnDVutv.jpg))
3) We advised the ARCS team to distribute the rewards earlier than usual. (#Proof 3 (https://i.imgur.com/yZZuDLb.jpg))
4) We argued with the COMM CEO to speed up the bounty distribution. (#Proof 4 (https://i.imgur.com/2ZKrM3W.jpg))
5) We discussed with the AMZ admin about not reducing the promised bounty rewards and avoiding the community to be damaged. (#Proof 5 (https://i.imgur.com/i2FZaO5.jpg), #Proof 6 (https://i.imgur.com/9l62XAX.jpg)) After our pressure, their CEO published this post: t.me/amzcoinofficial/21859
6) We advised the Earnbet team to increase bounty rewards from 5000 XRP to 7000 XRP (#Proof 7 (https://i.imgur.com/HiQUFIK.jpg)) + http://t.me/BountyDetective/185664
7) Our managers are almost online 7/24 and respond to people's questions kindly. We don't use bots in our group, not even prevent spam bots.
8) We escrowed many bounties to protect the community's rights. We spent more than 7 ETH for only ARX bounty distribution's tx costs from our pocket because of the significantly increased transaction fees. However, we still kept our promise and completed the distribution.
9) We introduced the complaint form system, which protected the community's rights more than usual.
10) We discussed with the SGC CEO several times about the distribution of the community rewards. (#Proof 8 (https://imgur.com/a/9jLZGP7))
11) We pushed the Ezystayz team for the distribution several times. (#Proof 9 (https://imgur.com/a/7RNO6bb))


Of course, we can count too many more topics about how we care about our followers and never leave them alone.

So why did that person give us a negative trust?

Because of his personal problems with us, not because he has any proof of our untrustworthiness or cares about the bounty hunters. He is the one who can't be trusted (will be proven on this topic)

Recently, our previous Korean translator stopped doing translations for a while because of his works, and the guy who gave us a negative trust applied for a Korean translation job.

He has participated in some of our bounties and translated a few whitepapers. He said: Bounty Detective's honesty is respected, hats off, your work is appreciable (#Proof 1 (https://i.imgur.com/LpYg6Zj.png)). He was saying good things about us and praising us (#Proof 2 (https://i.imgur.com/k4efDyz.png))

However, our team was not happy with him interfering in our job and trying to manage us. He pushed us to distribute his reward earlier because he claimed social media participants sell the tokens' mass. We disagree with it. We have seen too many social media participants holding their awards for a long-time.

In our view, social media bounty participants and translators do not have a difference, and we can't give preferential treatment to any of our bounty hunters. Everyone is doing their jobs regarding their abilities and opportunities. (#Proof 3 - https://i.imgur.com/bQoMnFV.png and #Proof 4 - https://i.imgur.com/lTK6gPF.png)

His spamming to us never ended, and asked the same questions already replied in the group. How can we respond to every question from the DM? If we do so, who will manage the bounties? Why does this guy feel that we have to answer his questions from the DM? What is his privilege? Because he has a "hero rank," which he can abuse?

We have too many hero and legendary bounty participants. Most of them are respectful and understanding, but a few guys like him never let us do our job.

After a while, he began to spam our founder. The founder warned him that the account is not a support account several times and told him to wait as everyone does. And he was right; the founder account is for managing the team and talking to the projects' team, not for replying "Sir Xenon"'s never-ending same questions. He was not respectful, and he was trying to provoke him.

He did not stop, and at the latest, he began to praise another bounty manager. Then our founder told him to go and work with him, he fired him from the translation job, and that guy began to racist discourses, and our founder blocked him. (#Proof 5 (https://i.imgur.com/VdWi9A1.png), Proof #6 (https://i.imgur.com/6Fo0EAs.png), Proof #7 (https://i.imgur.com/7X8ap5n.png), Proof #8 (https://i.imgur.com/7X8ap5n.png), Proof #9 (https://i.imgur.com/44W8bfy.jpg), Proof #10 (https://i.imgur.com/Zko97ag.png), #Proof 11 (https://i.imgur.com/7CZO1fX.png))

❓ We will have several questions to the slanderer:

1) If managing the bounty of a canceled project is a reason for being untrustworthy, why did you apply for a job in Bounty Detective? Before your application, we already had managed bounties of 3 canceled projects. Did ready money allure you? Because you are so "honest" any you take the community seriously, you would never participate in any of our bounties.

2) Why did you participate in Tozex, TerraCredit, HOMT, 3WM, ARCS bounties?

3) If you give negative trust to a bounty manager for managing a canceled project's bounty, why did you not do the same for that bounty manager, whom you praised to our founder? As we all know, he was bounty manager of much more shut-down and exit scam projects than Bounty Detective.

Note: Our problem is not that bounty manager or any other bounty manager. Our point is the inconsistency of this guy.

4) Why did you praise us several times? Why did you apply for a job from untrustworthy people? Is your honor not more valuable than money?  

5) If we were untrustworthy, why did we not disappear with $200K worth of HEX, and we distributed it fairly and transparently? For a bounty management platform, that money can't be earnt even in 10 years. Why did we distribute ARX (~20K), 150K  IOI (150K TRX, Ludena 24 ETH rewards equitably?

6) If we were untrustworthy, how would those projects commend hundreds of thousands of USD worth of tokens/coins to us, which is equal to real money?

7) If we were untrustworthy, why did we reject hundreds of paid promotions? (Topic 4)

8) Did you realize that we are untrustworthy right after we fired you because of your hate speech, racism, and spamming? Did you realize it after getting payment for ARX bounty ?

⚪️ Also, we have a question for the person who started a thread about the ClipX project and us. Can you tell us who are the trusted bounty managers? Is their success ratio better than ours? (Please see topic 3)

If so, please give their names, do a favor to the bounty hunters so that they will benefit from the "trusted bounty managers." Also, our team will participate in those bounties too.

As we mentioned on topic 3 in only one year, the community earned more than $400,000 from the bounties managed by us. That amount doesn't include the ones which is pending for distribution, which is distributed but not listed on any exchange yet.

Edit: Another proof about the mentioned gangs' unfair and abused trust feedback:

https://imgur.com/TD72QGF

Both guys' comments about the negative trusts are copy/paste. They don't even read anything and spend a few minutes to write a separate comment about negative trust. What kind of fair and objective trust system is this? Will not Bitcointalk moderators do anything about these unjustnesses in this forum?


⚪️ Topic 6) Our Answers to the inaccurate feedbacks about us on Bitcointalk

a) Shef198911  2020-09-20  A lot of fraudulent projects that are promoted, there are no payments that they promise as " guaranteed payments"

Answer: From the 28 bounties we managed, only Kingcasino was an exit scam. We don't know how you call it "a lot."

Bounty Detective's all guaranteed airdrop rewards have been successfully distributed. Only the ones which are still ongoing or have a deadline are pending. Only KingCasino bounty rewards are not distributed because those tokens have no value, and most of the community did not demand those tokens already.

Besides, trusting the words of a person who is selling merits equal to scamming is not the best option. We are sure that a merit seller person can also be paid by others to give this feedback about us.

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b) Paranosya 2020-08-28 Promotion of Scam projects: King Casino, BLOBFLOW, 1st Trade, CERVIERO, CO-Initiative. But by a strange coincidence, no one notices this, although ordinary users who try to run bounty campaigns and immediately give a red trust for the promotion of Scam projects!

Answer: As mentioned on our main thread's topic 5, we want to inform the crypto sector people about the difference between an exit scam and a shut-down project. We will not teach you what a scam is because you are already an expert in the scam, as we can see in your profile.

Scam projects collect the funds and abandon the project without refunding the people. Shut-down projects refund people and stop the project. If a project can't reach its aimed funds (soft-cap), they stop the project. No one can blame anyone for this kind of situation. Because not achieving the desired funds and targets are always within the bounds of possibility in crypto projects. Anyone not knowing this fact should already study this sector before blaming others. The ones who know this fact but trying to manipulate people are immoralists, and we would prefer newbies to immoralists.

A shut-down project, which refunded every investor, is not an exit scam. Too many projects could not achieve their objective in harsh market conditions. In business life, it is the same. Many companies can't succeed in business and wind up the company. Calling all of those companies as a scam is amateurish or not fair.

Therefore, BlobFlow, 1st Trade, Cerviero, CO-Initiative are not scam projects. They are shut-down projects, not scam ones.

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c) Shumadan 2020-09-05  Speculates and sells ARX tokens, which must be paid to bounty hunters. By walking the token in the etherscan, it is absolutely obvious how it covers its tracks, starting tokens on the exchange and withdrawing them to other wallets, connecting tokens through two wallets and starting them on the exchange, that is, it confuses the tracks! Also, this Manager held a lot of scam bounties , for which no one gave him a red trust for unknown reasons!

Answer:

Are we speculating 20.000.000.000 ARX total supply with only 85,000 ARX?

Also, where we sold those tokens? If we sold the tokens, how did everyone get their rewards? If you mean we trade with those tokens and make a profit, why would we do it? What if we make a loss? Besides, can't we already buy and sell ARX with our own funds, if we want?

We got 85,000 ARX from the ARCS team, and distributed above 83600. During the distribution our team has noticed some fake accounts, so they were eliminated. We will refund the 1400 ARX to the ARCS team.

In the Ethereum network, none of the transactions can be hidden, even if it is sent to the exchanges. All of the rewards have been distributed from 2 wallets, which already everyone could check:

If you don't know how to check the transactions, our team is ready to educate you.

https://etherscan.io/address/0x9d39497928671c4abb1a56a31c4e717be51fc796
https://etherscan.io/address/0x01cb072b318b19441d3eeb64e68d5a92c68b9388


⚪️ Conclusion:

In our opinion, abusing Bitcointalk's opportunities and ranks for slandering people, manipulating the forum users for personal benefits, giving negative trust without concrete proof, threatening businesses, racism, etc. would not be tolerated on this forum.

We, crypto enthusiasts, are all on the same boat, and we should not let people misuse this forum. It is a community platform and belongs to all of us. As long as these kinds of people misemploy their rank to threaten others and damage people's business unfairly, too many legit and honest people will suffer.

Even if we get hundreds of negative trusts because we don't bow to pressure, don't let racism, don't give preferential treatment to anyone, etc. nothing will change, and we will continue to work hard and honestly.

In any case, these kinds of malignant attempts will not stop us. We are sure of our honesty and transparency; we are not dirty, like many people trying to discredit us, so we have nothing to lose. We will be in the industry as long as we want. We have thousands of loyal followers who believe in our honesty, experience, and goodwill. Our supporters are much more than our enemies. We will not give up and continue managing the bounties in our way, which is appreciated by the majority of our followers.

We are sure that the reasonable and fair Bitcointalk moderators will fix this issue and punish this slanderer. Otherwise, we can even run a bounty from a Telegram bot, another forum, a website, even on a Telegram group.

Finally, We want to inform the newbie people in the sector about the difference between an exit scam and a shut-down project.

Scam projects collect the funds and abandon the project without refunding the people. Shut-down projects refund people and stop the project according to hoyle.

If a project can't reach its aimed funds (usually soft-cap), they stop the project. No one can blame anyone for this scenario. Because not achieving the desired funds and targets are always within the bounds of possibility in crypto projects.

Anyone not knowing this fact should study this sector before blaming others. The ones who know this fact but trying to manipulate people are immoralists, and we would prefer newbies to immoralists. As we said hundreds of times before, we don't force anyone to participate in the campaigns we manage. Everyone should do their own research and take their risk before participating in any airdrop or bounty. It is weird people accepting this risk but still complaining if the project fails. We can minimize failed or scam projects by doing several kinds of research, as we are already doing, but we can't %100 avoid it.

Thus, a shut-down project and a scam project are entirely different. Too many projects could not achieve their objective in harsh market conditions. In business life, it is the same. Many companies can't succeed in business and wind up the company. Calling all of those companies as a scam is amateurish or not fair.

We want to thank everyone who spent their time and read this thread.

Kind Regards,

Bounty Detective Team

Bounty detective has done successfully many projects in the last one year. Maximum bounties they managed has been distributed payments to the bounty hunters where most of the other bounties has been cheated managed by others in the last 1.5 year. Actually bounty detective has 24 hours support team, when i face any problem like stake missing, or other problems and i knock them in telegram, they immediately solved the problems. I haven't seen such active team before here. When i observed that Clipx team wanted kyc after bounty ended, bounty detective team pinned message in the telegram for the bounty hunters that they didn't want kyc after bounty ended and protested to the Clipx team for bounty hunters. Hence they are not liable for kyc what Clipx team did. I hope bounty detective will manage bounties in the future with honesty and more cautious than before.

well you have said it all, and i sympathized with you coupled with the pressure which people are giving you presently as much as i know you have ran many successful project even they got listed in CMC and other reputable trading platform. so i m one of your supporter who love doing your projects. one thing in life is that you most have a competitor in the industry so you have to stand firm to beat all other people as they are trying to bring you down knowing that you have gain alot of ground in the industry so don't panic as we your supporters knows your credibility, capability and integrity so keep doing your job and push harder without looking at the physical challenges.
Believe on your hustle and trust your creator who gave you such wonderful opportunity to be among of the living irrespective of the world turbulence yet you still succeed.

thank you sir
Love you.

Best regards

Telegram @Christabel247

I'm just seeing the negative trust and believe me, its quite surprising. Before ever I joined bounty hunting, I have seen the injustice in the system and taken note of Bounty platforms that help to carry out this injustice. BountyDetectives is one platform I have come to see as the best both in integrity and delivering on their promises. To rate the BountyDetectives platform bad just because of a bounty campaign that went bad is really not fair. The managers there are also human and can in sometimes run into the bad hands who are bent on using others to their advantage.

As stated already, BountyDetectives has conducted a lot of successful bounties from solid projects and hunters got paid. It will be fair if other DT members also look into the case and rectify this.

As for me, I will keep supporting BountyDetectives as they are number 1 bounty platform I feel comfortable participating in their bounties, knowingly fully well they work with integrity and fairness. Just keep up the good work and know that the competition in this space is quite tough but the strong survives.

Most of the people who have been around the space for a long period of time clearly understand all of these things you are talking about. However, the newbies will not entirely see reasons with you until the explanations gets repeatedly resounded in their ears. I noticed that bounty campaign managers can not function beyond the terms stated by the project team that contracted them, and bounty hunters always have their preferences and those aren't within the confines of the campaign manager and when the term changes, hunters always complain too.

Bottom line is, hunters should understand that, although the campaign manager tries to ensure that they get their rewards, he is not the team as he was only contracted to manage the campaign and still is under their control and in most cases does not directly have access to the rewards of the hunters.

Let me support you. I often check your bounty companies for alternative accounts. And as it was once said here that the problem of cheating is not in farming, but in those managers who allow it.

So the rules of the companies of this manager do not allow fraud on the part of users. And this is one of the good indicators. If we talk specifically about managers who conduct bounties paid with different tokens, this manager is the most popular today and deserves a good reputation.

If bounty companies require KYC verification, people themselves must have their heads on their shoulders and decide for themselves what to do with their data.

I did not follow all the details of all the bounty campaigns carried out by this manager, but if you believe today's words of the manager, he leads them quite successfully. And in this case, bounty hunters should remember all those bounties that lasted for half a year in 2018-2019, and in the end, were not paid.
Participation in the bounty is the choice of the people themselves, no one forces them to do it.

As for the Shef198911 review, you shouldn't pay attention to it. He himself narrowly escaped the account painting for his offer to sell merit. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5105163.msg55065953#msg55065953
For anyone interested, you can check his story using social media.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5105163.msg55066795#msg55066795
Other than calling it schizophrenia, you can’t call it. ;D

Somewhat strangled by the behavior of xenon131. I think he will come to this topic and be able to explain everything

I have just a few words that i can say the words when i was new just Bounty Dtective was the platform who completely guide me to learn how to earn from bounties as you can see now its the most trusted platform ever in my case.

Just listen that i have no words to say THANKS to that team i have earned 150+ $ in my first bounty which was from HEX and much more from ARCS .
Now i am earning from other platforms as well but i can join a new bounty from Bounty detective with close eyes this is my trust on them.
I have proof for that just search any Campign in Terra Credit , Candela or any other i will be in Top 10 first participants in bounty .
I can say only its your own decisions to trust them but never creat fake and spamming words in Competition compete by Work not by words

Well, I read this thread from A to Z. First of all, talking racist words is not acceptable, and should be punished. I know Bounty Detective and Airdrop Detective for a long time. I even did business with them. I did not have any problem, even if I paid all payment in advance.

Bounty Detective is the largest and best bounty service provider I have ever found, some managed projects always distribute their rewards, they have professional people and provide a very active discussion. Success for Bounty Detective.
Keep giving everyone the confidence to adopt he crypto

I am very greatful to have the most successful bounty community like Bounty Detective Team. When many scam projects have disappointed a lots of bounty hunters, the Bounty Detective Community makes happy the hunters by offering the most successful  projects. I think, bounty programs are still attractive specially for the projects arranged by the Bounty Detective Community.  They are the best, best and best team. I wish their success forever.

In fact, you don't even need to take them seriously and make these statements. We know and trust you. We wish you continued success. We are always with you.   :)

Ever since i encountered bounty detective, I stopped participating other bounty which mostly result to scam...

It so unfair using high rank to influence the community to believe what was wrong,  I will keep supporting bounty detective 100% for their trust and transparency in handling bounties, keep doing the good works,  we the participants knows you're doing great.. As for those who are slandering, you better desist from such bad behavior..

We're one family..
Thanks

Thank you for your support,

Well, we don't think he will have any reasonable answer to this thread. Maybe he will find another friend and will slander us by another topic. But the truth will always remain and we will not be subject to threats from people of his kind. His problem is being fired from Bounty Detective. In his opinion, "Hero rank" can't be fired. But we did it. 😊

Besides, calling a project as a scam without any proof is against the "presumption of innocence."

Till date, we have never mandated KYC in our bounty campaigns because we believe and respect that people should have full custody of their private information and decide what to do with it.

Above all, we are trying to escape from fascism in crypto and trying to be freer here. Blaming all Muslim countries as not being free is ridiculous and will upset the Muslims in this forum. There is more than 50 countries that mostly Muslims live, how he decided all of those countries not being free? The same applies to black racism, or any other nations, religions, etc. We are in the year 2020.

Finally, as we mentioned before, he has no rights to spam managers from DM. The rules are clear. The bounty participants should ask their questions on the main group. He did not respect that rule. It's okay if someone asks a few questions kindly, but not every day to all managers.

Best regards.

I joined many bounty from Detective Group, almost Bounty company paid. They have a professional way of working, I love it.  They manage a lot of bounty, If you have joined bounty, everyone understands there will be some scam projects.

The accuser of this group, I think, obviously incites, they want to downplay the group's credibility.

I have been in this group for a long time and they deliver good bounties even though the reward is small but the point is its still pays.

I always monitor the bounty that you manage and like you have managed a lot of bounties in one year, of course many people are enthusiastic about joining and hope for good rewards at the end.
But on the other hand, we must remain vigilant about doing research on what will be managed because everyone has different views such as the example of KingCasino and Clipx who try to cheat and damage the reputation of the bounty detective, therefore we all have to know that Detective is doing this seriously and it is impossible to embezzle. what's in the hunter, still it's all from the team trying to commit the deception at the end.

Bounty Detective is a good team they always try their best for all members of their project, many of which are successful,  :D

I have sent PM to: @xenon131, to review this thread.

Because I didn't participate in the bounty campaign managed by: @BountyDetective, so I don't know the initial problem, about the trust given to @BountyDetective by:@xenon131.

It seems that in your case the OP should involve:@ Mpamaegbu (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=940323), Because I saw @ xenon131, gave red credentials based on this topic: ClipX steals KYC data and shuts down (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5276354.msg55210525#msg55210525)

If, @xenon131 responds to my PM and wants to say something here about trust, maybe your problem is solved, just wait for @xenon131 to come here, hopefully it goes well and is resolved well.

Bounty Detective is one of the bounty managers I've trusted here on Bitcointalk along with julerz and Arteezy.rtx. I joined a lot of their bounty campaigns. Despite that their updates are delayed because of the "lack of manpower" in bounty management (especially monitoring every participant on the spreadsheet, computing stakes and weekly distribution), I still trust them no matter what.

I like them being honest and transparent on what happened to them in this long post of theirs. They're not perfect, but I vouch them for being one of the best in bounty management here on Bitcointalk.

Happy weekend everyone!

I always support Bounty Detective, still the best they always pay for all bounty hunters

I turned a lot of blind eyes to past companies such as 1strade carbon and others, but with the appearance of king casino and the phrase "we guarantee payment", I did not remain silent as usual, in the telegram I asked how they would behave about the payments that I guaranteed, in response I first received "why are they, they still don't cost anything" but after I asked them to pay what they themselves promised, I started hearing offensive things in my address "TA you are not normal" "TA leave him alone, he is not normal" " TA he ... Mishandled" and the like, when in response to still write "pay what you promised, or it can be considered fraud on your part, and because of this, your trust may be affected, and personally I'd paint that everyone knew" what I heard the answer, "go paint, you generally will not receive any rewards if not painted, and will exclude from other companies, if it does not" and blocked in telegrams, I certainly apologize, but I had as a participant listening to all this because I was asked to perform the words that are given? и втopoe, я вaм в тeлeгpaмм oтвeчao вчepa пpичинy пo кoтopoй я этo cдeлaл, a вы мeня ceoвa oбвиняeтe в тoм чтo я мoгy быть кaким тo зacлaнным?

The bounty detective Group does not own anyone an apologies IF projects failed to deliver. As long as measures were taking to make sure that those projects were trusted and appeared positive. the bounty activities here is Not a must. it is a choice and hunters are also advised to to DO THEIR OWN Research on projects here.

this said, we can not forget the FACT that there are projects that conducted successful ICOs and collected investors funds and DISSAPPEAR WITHOUT ANY TRACE. leaving investors with nothing.

Also, we know that the bitcointalk forum is a solid community that fight against scam and empty projects that intends to rob people their funds and also serves as a platform that educates users on blockchain technology and cryptocurrencies. One of their mantra here is that Users should endeavor to do research for any project they tends to invest on.
same is applicable to anyone trying to join a bounty campaign to make choice before participating. bounty detectives are trying on their own to provide authentic projects and they doing their best.

Kindly give them maximum support to do more.  

I like the technical support "bounty detective" several times went to the meeting and helped me :-*

In my case, I would like to hear an apology from the detective himself, for rude, disrespectful communication in my direction because of a simple request, in this case I will change the trust to neutral, leave as a note for others

Scam is a common nature in bounty section and since you're already wrote this rules before join a campaign... Every bounty hunters know if both manager and team can make any change about it. You must ready faced any conditions changed, even a worse one (e.g. Submit KYC, turn to a scam project, long payment, half payment etc)

So you need to blame the person who change the rules (this time is the project team) and not the Bountu manager.

Bitcointalk admins should look into the case and resolve it amicably
so far bounty Detective has had good record when compared to other managers

No one will apologize to you. We did not open this topic to beg anyone to remove untrusted feedbacks or comments. We are sure of our honesty and transparency. Already you confess, you gave negative trust not because we are untrustworthy, only because one of our admins talked rudely with you.

This means you are abusing Bitcointalk's negative feedback opportunity.

Please note that none of the Bounty Detective managers will talk to anyone rude unless they use bad words, insults, or talks roughly first. Many people know about our team's kindness and helpfulness.

Managers of this community today are among the best and always if there are any controversial issues or difficulties, they meet the users halfway, so I think the negative in their direction is not entirely justified, since it is very difficult to find decent and fair managers in this direction.

My note in trust has no meaning in this conversation, about. King casino tokens is a matter of principle, even if it does not bring any benefit, I would be sure that you fulfill your promises, you told me in that conversation that you said "you said what to paint, anyway, as you said, or you won't get any awards at all" I kept my words, and from your side for me it looks like just an advertising move to attract people

Thank you for your support,

We will not relent nor stop giving the best of services to our community and clients. We will not be subdued by the hatred nor slanders of people who see our honesty and transparency but refuse to admit. We will try in our capacity to be cautious as always with such projects as Clipx. Even though there are many uncertainties in the crypto space, we will remain honest and fair in our words and actions. Thank you 😊

This is the best way to resolve this problem. It is to get @xenon131 to reason from your perspective and remove the negative trust rating. As for trust, I have done a campaign with Bounty Detective. I was introduced to Bounty Detective by a friend in this forum who spoke well of them. The campaign is one of the awaiting distribution. I think they are honest.

That's right. I actually started that thread on ClipX because of the shabby way the project team treated bounty hunters of which I was one. My anger was fueled because the ClipX team knew they weren't continuing with the project but they insisted that hunters passed a KYC with them. However, I didn't agree with @xenon131 for tagging Bounty Detective and I said it in clear terms in this comment 👇because I felt it was a bit harsh as BD might even have incurred some losses themselves too running that bounty.


If I felt the fault was entirely that of BD, perhaps I would've tagged them at once when I made that post. Well, I hope xenon131 sees reason to reconsider on this and resolve it.

Hello Yoshie, thank you for your answer.

Actually, we don't think he has reasonable answers to the eight questions we asked him. We shared everything with tens of proofs. As you also can see, most of the people on this thread support us. In addition, there are several extra supports on our Telegram group t.me/bountydetective

Furthermore, this thread about us will be extra proof of our honesty and legitimacy: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5239677.0

If we were untrustworthy, the majority of people would not support our platform.

We have counted 11 proofs about we never left in the lurch the bunch our followers. What can he count except a ridiculous thread opened about a project, which is inconsistent?

ClipX was not a scam project. It was a shut-down project. Even if we suppose it a scam project, is it proof of the bounty manager's untrustworthy?

We have proven our success ratio is above %80 for all of the bounties we have managed. The question is, how much percentage should it be? We know tens of bounty managers whose managed projects' success ratio is below %50.  Should Xenon flag all of those bounty managers as untrustworthy? Business always has risk, and bounty management is also a business.

He praised us another bounty manager, which we don't want to say his name. However, when we check that bounty manager's profile, there are tens of scam accusations about him. Why did not the "trustworthy" Xenon give him a negative trust too? These kinds of people should not have DT. They use it as a weapon, not for dispensing justice.

As we said before, we did not open this thread to beg for the negative trust to be removed. We want this slanderer and racist person to be punished and discredited. These kinds of people are enormous trouble and trust loss for the industry.

Kind Regards.

I joined few bounty.. bounty detective best group in the online works group.  Bounty detective all reward paid 100% .I liked thish group. I almost try to joining all bounty

BountyDetective, I don't think all those shills here are helping your case, nor is the massive amount of fallacious reasoning you're trying to drown us in. It doesn't matter that you didn't steal $200k or whatever it was. The only thing that matters is if xenon131's trust rating is factual and if it shows that you're high-risk to deal with. For example if you deflect responsibility for bounty participants not getting paid then it could be considered high-risk. This doesn't help either:


Not exactly trust-inspiring attitude.

If we have other participants say to us they need their KCT rewards, we can send out their tokens. It's not an issue. We already spent more than 7 ETH for only ARX bounty distribution's transaction costs from our pocket. If you are not moved by the facts that; the tokens are without value, coupled with increased eth gas fees, we don't mind distributing KCT tokens participants who say they want their rewards. Except him, no one demanded those tokens and we several times asked ETH wallet from that guy to distribute his KCT reward but he did not provide it. Because his problem is different, not getting KCT tokens. And yes KCT tokens is shit tokens, because there is not project anymore.

Is that what you said when you hired bounty participants? I have a feeling you didn't exactly say "these are worthless shit tokens and you will not get paid, please work for free". Do you see how that could be a bit of a problem?

Question for your advice #1)

While you advise people not to participate in unescrowed bounties, and you join in Tozex, Gaimin, ClipX, 3WM, and Candela bounties, managed by us but not escrowed?  As we see you are still working on those bounties.

Question for your advice #3)  Follow only trusted Bounty Managers. 

Who are the trusted bounty managers? So it means we are untrustworthy bounty managers? If so, why you participated in 7 bounties managed by us?Is their success ratio better than ours? (Please see topic 3) If so, please give their names and do a favor to the bounty hunters so that they will benefit it.


Question for your advice #4) Did you read our topic about ClipX and saw the proofs how we researched the project in detail? Also, do you have any proof about ClipX being a scam or used the IDs?

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I think you did not understand the subject because you did not read the whole thread. I know it is a long thread, but you will understand our point if you read it from A to Z.

While Kingcasino bounty was ongoing, of course, those tokens were not shit tokens, but after they involved an exit scam now, those tokens have no value, so it is called a shit token. Then the community already did not demand those tokens; it makes no sense. Only this guy demanded those tokens, and we told him if he wants we can send him. We said it several times. That guy is untrustworthy, and already we refute that claim.

We already mentioned on our bounty that offensive and rude behavior are not be tolerated. However, he did not stop insulting our bounty managers, so what we did was correct.

Again, better, you read the entire topic; otherwise, you can't judge this issue fairly. All thread is connected to each other.


Then you can see Bounty Detective's success ratio. If from 28 bounties, only one project involves an exit scam, we are doing this job well. The community's and projects' feedbacks about us are enough proofs, not the slanders of Xenon.

[moderator's note: consecutive posts merged]

You used Altcoinstalks to hide your identity. You fought with us one month ago. You said you wished ClipX thread opened one month ago.
And both of your's nicknames are "Xenon" Additionally, both of you guys are enemies of Bounty Detective. Are all of them coincidence?

You are racist and liar. We have sent screenshots. Also, we don't use alt accounts. Otherwise, we have a team of 11 people, and all of us can open too many alt accounts. We don't do it, we fight fair, not like you.

As I said before, you are abusing your default trust and threatening everyone to give negative trust. You did it back from an anonymous account and then deleted the conversation.

You can be sure that because of your kind of people, too many people are losing their trust in Bitcointalk. You can do a simple Telegram and Google research about it. We are not afraid of your "rank."  You can give 100 negative trusts. The community's support is obvious.

We require fair global admins to punish you, and we will do our best to provide it. While you were chatting here, we were doing business, that is why we don't have a hero rank. You should not be so arrogant about your rank.

I think you have read the entire topic, and look, was there any rude or boorish attitude towards the detective on my part now ? and as there is a message that managers are not the first to get rude and rude, if this is so, according to the detective, I started to be rude and rude, but I posted in the answer, I think the expression "If you die for those shit tokens I can give you 100K of them." shows who was really right, and the last time it started in my direction, and then the ridicule and insults, I will not say that in a rude form, but in a humiliating format, and now says that I'm some kind of zaslany and I was paid, if this was the case, then logically I would have started to be rude, rude, insulting, so the true side of the relationship is revealed quietly

Honestly, I am beginning to think that you're shielding the ClipX team from blame with all your counter accusations. One would've expected you to amicably appeal to the community and bounty hunters who suffered emotional trauma because of the personal documents they submitted to the ClipX team. An apology would've done a magic and people would've understood your understanding of the concept of "mistakes do happen" and not the frenzy for retaliation you've indulged, tagging those who called the bounty you managed out. Is saying, I am sorry a difficult thing to say?

BTW, I had to sit out all my participations to the end and get my stakes for a labourer deserves its pay.

You insulted our managers on Telegram, that is why you banned from the group. Then you deleted the chat history. We have 135K followers on our group but below 80 banned users. It means you pushed our team too much to be banned. Also, yes, those tokens are shit tokens, that is how this industry calls those kinds of tickets. It is not something rude. It is the name of it.

what do you start to bury yourself
in the first place - in your opinion, I will be rude, insulted, and I should be silent ? For the record, I called your Manager the same name as he did at first, was I offended ? didn't like it ? Second - how can I delete the conversation if I was thrown in the block ?
 and the group is not available to me, I'll tell you a secret, when you block a person, THE administrator has a check mark "Delete all correspondence of this person", so who deleted the messages ? cleaned up the history, and now you're trying to lie as it justifies itself ?

Why would we have to say sorry? Don't we use a disclaimer for every bounty? You still did not respond to my questions and changing the subject.
If we shield the ClipX team, how can our founder talk that strict and rude with their CEO? All screenshots are added as proof. However, you have nothing. You are trying to discredit us, but never miss any of our bounties. But you still advise people not to participate in our bounties.

We know we entered the bounty market fastly, and achieved so many things in a short time. We know it hurts many people like you, especially competitors. As we said before, we will not stop our honest and transparent work, these kinds of slanders can't stop us.

Your kind of people are making Bitcointalk an unfair place, too many people complain about the same issue.

I think I understand it quite well, thank you. It's quite clear that you're deflecting any responsibility to people whom you hired to do a job.


You're saying "only one project" but there are at least two mentioned in the last two posts - Kingcasino and ClipX. It looks like you want to have all the benefits and profits of managing shitcoin bounties but none of the responsibility.

And now you're posting negative trust ratings on people merely discussing these issues here. Not cool.

Creating this topic as a "feedback", I only caught the sense that everyone who put some liars, others slander, and you are the only ones here right and perfect, this is toee strange

Kingcasino is a scam project, but ClipX is a shut-down project. Their CEO refunded everyone. They have a registered company in Germany. Their team is public. You can read the topic 2 for detailed information.

I am sure that a legendary member on Bitcointalk knows the difference between an exit scam and a shut-down project.

Every project can't reach their soft-cap, or can't collect the aimed funds. It is just normal in crypto. Failed project does not mean a scam.

Giving a negative trust to the bounty managers of every shut-down or exit scam projects', it would be fair. However, giving negative trust to only Bounty Detective because of a few shut-down project, which is normal in the bounty management business, will not be fair.

Can you or anyone show us a bounty manager who has a %100 success ratio? For example, he/she will have more than ten managed projects. All of those projects will have a reasonable amount of rewards (Not silly pools like $200 for 1K participation), and all of those rewards would be distributed and would have a value. Then we are ready to quit this job.

Again, Bounty Detective's success ratio is faraway best. We have researched every single bounty manager. Maybe that's why we have that many enemies in Bitcointalk.

Why Bounty Detective?

if you are all so good, and correct, and care about us, then why don't you care about the amount of reward ? why, with a pool of only$ 5,000, do you recruit an unlimited number of people, and how many people do you have in the group you yourself wrote in this topic, a very large part of them participate, who then get a penny at all, and stretch the duration to 12 weeks ? that because you are not interested in it much, this is another proof that you have in the first place is the maximum PR of the company that paid you, and what the hunters will get, you do not care much, and Yes, I have stopped participating in your company at all, since I have no desire to spend 3 months for a couple of bucks, and after all this, you have no desire to participate at all

Hello @bounty detective, you have to look on how to resolve the issue with the user that tagged you. Users in the clipx bounty felt bad after submission of KYC and exit happened. However, the user who tagged you should see reason with you on the clipx exit as he can read your thread here and understand what happened and looking at the bounties you have successfully delivered to bounty hunters. Hopefully this will be resolved with the guy and everybody can be fine.

To give retaliatory red trust won't help this case to be easily resolved. I think what reasonable thing you need do is to make the dude who tagged you to see reason with you and heap the blame on Clipx. And hopefully he will remove the tag amicably and all will be fine instead of retaliation and fighting here.

Correct decision. Please don't participate in our campaigns if you don't like them. You can continue to sell merits. It will be more profitable for you  :)
However, we already limited many bounties regarding the reward pool. We can't limit the bounties which has a massive reward pool.

I also know bullshit when I see it. You thought you can waltz in here, ask some shills to post for you, and make it all rainbows and unicorn farts. Keep posting those retaliatory trust ratings, that will really make you look like a totally honest bounty manager LOL.

What a fucking douchenozzle.

Hello Carter34,

We told everything clearly, detailed and transparently in this topic. Their purpose is to damage us, not a safer crypto industry. You can see above a hundred of untrusted feedbacks for this "legendary" account on Bitcointalk. Many people blame him being a scammer.

When they have a legendary rank, no one hears the voice of the victims: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=234771

We did not open this thread to fight, we opened this to tell the fair and reasonable people some legendary and hero accounts threating businesses and individuals for a long time. This became an issue for us.

Everyday some of those guys contact us and trying to get priviliges. We can't accept it.

I will repeat once again, my question is not related to this topic in any way, do not try to hook it somehow, without knowing the essence of the problem and its solution, this issue has been resolved, excuse me and this does not concern you.
You of course apologize, but even now you are behaving like a small, offended child, showing yourself I think not from the side from which you would like, creating this topic, do not consider yourself right in everything, on the forum not stupid people sit and read and see everything!
You as here mentioned that "Yes we quickly took off for a small amount of time" but as I understand you did not know that where the big UPS, there are large falls, you take off your closed eyes and you to some extent has started to raise, and was not ready for the fall, and now you're trying to retaliate back at us trust, not trying to solve the problem, yesterday you contacted me in the telegrams, why you have not tried to solve the problem and as you wrote " I just wanted to clarify," you do not want to solve the problem, you decided to make us all perpetrators and to ruin the reputation of us, well, it's your decision, I'm in the middle of a topic is changed to neutral for the trust, but already regret it

We already replied that question hundreds of times. We had both limited and unlimited bounties. We decide it with the project team regarding to the reward pool. Yes you removed your red trust, but you did it after we gave you a negative trust too.

you are so naive, you think that I put neutral because of the response trust ? do you think you can fill the topic with paid messages and responses to them, and the moderators will see how good you are ? I will wait for the result) so I will return the trust that was

Are you paranoid? He has a hero rank and he works as a translator for the bounties we manage. Can you just leave us alone? Just go and sell more merits.

I think by creating this branch, you have already shown yourself what kind of person you are and how you can actually relate , you have already shown that you are absolutely indifferent to others, and some stupid reservations and ACCUSATIONS towards others... and you so look like my trust that almost every message write about it ? Believe me, it does not apply to you in any way, and accuse me now, since there were no sales, so you wrote to me "go SELL more" solve your problem before you climb into other people's for your own paddock

and please show proof that I was paid for this trust ! in this case you are trying to slander me without any evidence ! keep your assumptions without evidence to yourself, if every time you spoil the trust only with assumptions, without any evidence, then believe me in your trust you could do so that you read it like a book! dokazali wrote, if not then shut up!

So if you are honest, answer this:

From the 28 bounties we managed, only Kingcasino was an exit scam. We don't know how you call it "a lot."

"Bounty Detective's all guaranteed rewards have been successfully distributed. Only the ones which are still ongoing or have a deadline are pending. KingCasino bounty rewards are not distributed because those tokens have no value, and most of the community did not demand those tokens already"

IOI, HOMT, HEX, ARCS, Ludena bounties' distributions were guaranteed by us, and we distributed them. Why are you trying to manipulate people with your lies?


If you can't answer that question honestly, you should continue to sell merits. You are good on that job, we are good on bounties. Why you get angry when we advise you to do a job you are a professional?

As we can see you are not professional on bounties: https://t.me/bounty_info That is your channel and a lot of scam/crap projects published there with amateur post theme and poor grammar.

Anyway man, we are really busy, please give it up this bullshit. If you want KCT tokens, contact our admins, they will pay you some. If you don't want it, just stop this bullshit, because you have been repeating the same things for the last 12 hours.

first of all, the trust States that king casino is guaranteed to receive the promised payments, and has not been paid.

 secondly - if it calms you down, I can change the trust by replacing it with "a lot of awards for which there were no payments, a waste of time" then according to your logic, companies such as BLOBFLOW, 1st Trade, CERVIERO, CO-Initiative and others will already be included here.

 third - in my trust ( which you liked so much), one word is written that you do not specify, this is "ATTEMPT", and it means that there were no direct sales, the issue is resolved, I'm not going to prove something to you, since this does not concern you.

fourth - Yes, this IS my channel and what companies I post it is not your business, since your companies are no longer there, and I do not encourage anyone to participate in them and do not guarantee that they will pay, and grammatical errors to notice from Google translator and write at all funny, the level of a schoolboy. Every time you make fun of yourself with your stupid, UNFOUNDED opinions, I also have a lot of things to think in your direction, should I mark it all in the trust, without even knowing whether it's really true or not ? Your solution to the problem is to try to take all possible ways to get revenge and ruin the trust. Better stop, you yourself will continue to spoil your reputation

Man, I understand nothing from what you write. You even confused Google Translate. Can you end this conversation? Don't participate in our bounties, and don't share them in your "wonderful" channel. It is so simple. What do you want from us? Stop it, and we are busy. You being a scammer is proven. You have sold merits several times. We don't want to waste our time with you. We told the same thing 100 times, but you did not understand. Keep saying the same thing: "None of the guaranteed bounties were paid" We count you several projects you still say the same thing. Your kind of people are trouble for this industry. You can't manage a crap channel below 500 followers, but you try to teach us our job. It is a ridiculous man. Just leave us alone, man, we are really busy.

are you trying to slander me now, what kind of fraud am I? what are the multiple times sales merits? Evidence of these sales right in this topic, you are blatantly lying, trying to make yourself innocent, I'm waiting here for evidence for each of my sales as you claim, where is it written that I sold several times? you are now trying to defile my reputation with blatant lies, and this is worthy behavior of BM?

i have read all the post, I think that it was a very good idea that you published this post, because it's a fact that many legendary members and other old members in Bitcointalk forum are abusing the trust system for their own interests.
Sometimes, when a legendary or full member has a rival in its own field, for example a video creator has other rival idea creators, he can abuse the use of the trust system... etc

I think this forum, even if it's the oldest, and the most known forum in crypto, has to be reformed, so no one can have the authority to give another one a red trust.

i think some of those legendary members have forgotten that crypto is decentralized, so no one can have the absolute authority on others. especially when we know that BOUNTY DETECTIVE is a legit bounty group, and that most of its bounties were successful...

Thank you, Christelle,

Don't worry, maybe some of them have high ranks from a few years ago, and they are abusing their rank for their personal benefits, but believe me, they are weak. They have so many haters, they scammed so many people, as everyone can see on their profiles. Our community is bigger and stronger than those kinds of people's only several supporters.


They may have the "negative feedback opportunity" that they use a weapon instead of justice, but we are right, and we are not dirty, so we are stronger. Suchmoon: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=234771 has scammed hundreds of people, but interestingly he is still acting as Christ!

It is weird that Bitcointalk moderators giving more chances those kinds of people. There are fair and honest people who can manage this forum 1000 times better than those people. They are dirty, they have hundreds of scam accusations. Sooner or later, Bitcointalk will be cleaned from those fascists.

The Crypto industry will not surrender these kinds of abusers. Crypto covers freedom and transparency, which those guys have no idea about them. We will do our best to uncover those kinds of people. Therefore, this forum will be cleaner and more trustworthy.

We will still continue to manage the bounties, in the best way we can do, even if we don't make any profit, we will not surrender.

You don't appear to be showing you are capable of anything except deflection and retaliation. Anyone who says anything against you is starting to instantly be accused of crap without you posting any proof. I also checked the trust you've sent, and it all looks like retaliatory bullshit as well.

You gotta earn respect around here. Paying out a couple bounty campaigns does not you respect. Still many ongoing campaigns from what I'm reading and they all have the possibility to scam still. You are not taking any precautions to protect the bounty hunters, just blindly trusting teams to pay.

My opinion, you are a risk to work for.

FYI don't start saying i'm slandering you to help myself. I haven't taken a new bounty project since 2018.

First, let me say that am a member in bounty detective community, I've monitored several of their bounties but have never participated in any of them, I have friends though, who are die hard participants of bounty detective bounties and they were the ones who introduced me to their platform based on how well they trust bounties hosted and managed by bounty detectives.

I've read this topic and comments from A to Z, though I don't have the power to judge but I will try to say what I think.

First, I will like to make it clear that it's true that some high ranked members are abusing the privileges that come with that rank, and its not fair on the members just starting out on this forum, cus most times, they are the ones who suffer this abuse and in return, their businesses and relationships with other members in terms of trust suffers....for example, A hero/legendary member can speak very rudely to a newbie but a newbie can't reply back rudely cus he or she will possibly get a negative/red trust, and if newbie tries to fight back, he or she is instantly tagged a potential scammer if not careful, might even get a ban hammer.
If the authorities are reading this, I personally think the time to reform this forum is long over due.

And back to the topic of discussion, I personally think you "bounty detectives" is not helping at all in getting your unmerited negative trust issues resolved, i feel the rage, anger and impatient in every reply towards anyone who tends to disagrees with you, and i think this attitude Alone will negatively affect the kind of judgment you will get if by chance, the authorities decides to take up this case though I personally feel you don't deserve the negative trust you got, You don't fight fire with fire, cus if you do, many other things including the ones you don't expect to burn will all burn, You fight fire with water, you blocked some one on your telegram for being rude to your MD, and here you are being the same rude in some of your replies, Making the law with one hand and breaking it with the other hand (forgetting that both hands are internally connected) is not a proper way of life , if someone was rude at you, and you decide to report the matter to the general public, you try and be civil, ive read you write several times that you can't say sorry or apologize to anyone for managing a bounty of a failed or scam project, you forget that at times, saying sorry does not necessarily mean we are wrong, most times, it's just for peace to rain, that's all.

Though I know how bad you must feel for having to deal with such injustice from someone you believe is of higher rank and power than you, i still personally implore you to try to be more civil in replying your critics, it will go a long way in helping to resolve this issue.

Thank you.

Fight back for what? If the problem is just rude language then they have nothing to fight back about. Any rank has the same "privilege" of ignoring anything they don't like. However if there is untrustworthy behavior involved then rude language shouldn't give them immunity, again - regardless of rank.

And "Hero/legendary members" can't ban anyone. Only moderators can and it only happens if one egregiously breaks the rules, which does not include being rude.

Hmm so this is supposed to be a discussion on a somewhat healthy section of this forum and thread was posted just yesterday and withing 24hours we have a 5pages worth of replies of which only a few are worth reading because the rest if a copy of what altcoin spamming sections have. ::)

What good does it have if you bring in your bounty minion crew on a Reputation thread? Nothing. They just spam like brain dead gang without addressing the issue at hand.

We humans always like to hear good about ourselves - that is a fact, does not mean that it improves our bad attributes, but only brushes them under the carpet.

I am totally dizzy with this thread.
This is beyond my expectation, I initially PM @ xenon131, here to solve the problem between @BountyDetective with @xenon131, as well as @Mpamaegbu being involved in this, but @Mpamaegbu has already provided an answer about his friendliness here;

Post by: @Mpamaegbu: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5281160.msg55352788#msg55352788

Post by: @Mpamaegbu: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5281160.msg55353351#msg55353351

I thought the problem was under control and resolved.

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But another problem arose, @BountyDetective claimed something to:@xenon131 who never did, korean translation here:https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5281160.msg55352989#msg55352989, This is really a problem that will not be resolved, it could get more complicated and end up getting worse, I think, it's out of emotional control.

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@BountyDetective & @xenon131, I don't know your talk anymore, I can only watch this time, I think I can mediate in this case, however, no, my brain melted this time seeing this case, outside my brain.

Regards.
I'm done here.

Put ignore aside man, cus ignoring something I don't like is a choice I have to make for myself , and in a case where am deeply offended to the extent I feel ignoring is too great a sacrifice to make, you still expect me to ignore right, ?? Not possible cus that's an injustice to my own self, there's a level to what a person can take, there's a way i will talk to you and the same you preaching ignore here won't even remember there's a word like "ignore" in the dictionary.

So please put "ignore" aside cus it does not apply to every situation.

Let me quickly put it here - I just discovered now that there has been an attempt to hack my Telegram account. This is the first of its kind for me since I started using it a few years ago. I can't really say what the person behind it is trying to achieve or prove. The handle is @kenngurai. The whole thing just went blank as I tried to access it.

Please, no one should respond to any posts or pms from that handle until I get this sorted out today when am back from church. I will post here once that is done. Thanks.

Edited: I am now able to access the handle again. I think everything is well now.

If you think fighting back with rude responses is a viable strategy then "ignore" is too and it's far more effective. If someone is offended by rude language then inflaming the situation to get more rude language in response sounds like a bad idea.

I have never regretted being a member of the bounty detective, I follow them and always get paid according to the rules, you can see, how the participants in each bounty they hold, really very busy, professional bounty detective bounty manager

You're late to the party, newbie shill. Your revered bounty manager has already used the 5 pages of this thread to prove that they're anything but "professional". Complaining about trust abuse and abusing the trust system against users speaking out. Real classy.

you are very very trusted and honest bounty manager me and my friend with u from your start and joined your every bounty and received reward and got profit this form is very useful but by some mistakes we dis heart
but hope for better.

Thank you for your good words. We are stronger with our supporters. This post has been published to prove how some people in Bitcointalk (Called Bitcointalk Gang) are abusing the trust system. And the gang prove it already.

We get thousands of positive feedbacks from our followers, especially on our Telegram group. We understand many people can't comment in this thread because they will get a "negative trust" from the "untrusted gang."


These kinds of people already destroyed Bitcointalk's reputation. The traffic of Bitcointalk on Alexa is decreasing every day. Some of the "trusted moderators" in this blog has hundreds of scam complaints about them. Interestingly, nothing happens to them. Because they are sharing the pie, they don't touch each other.

Never mind. Bounty Detective will continue to do this job whatever it costs. We know many "bounty managers" are being crazy and trying to discredit us. We don't mind.

We are sure that there are still too many honorable and honest moderators in this forum. Sooner or later, this issue will be fixed. Those kinds of arrogant guys who are nothing when they "logout" their Bitcointalk account, will be cleaned.

The world is changing, so the crypto world. Transparency of the blockchain can't be manipulated. They can only gain some more time.

The greatest bounty website, including a forum, is on the way.

Best regards.

For me, Bounty detective is an excellent and fruitful company. Despite the lockdown and shortage of Bounties, they have continued getting bounty. They have been striving to give their  best. But just like every other firm, no firm is perfect.
Kingcasino and Clipx were beyond their control.

I will stick around as long as possible.

Thank you Dave. Transparency and honesty, that is what crypto needs.

We could not help this kind of activity unless there will be a change the way the admin wanted to make it happen. For now trusted users are doing their job well and has been making some good flags with those account that are doing scam around or other illegal activities.

The implementation of trust system has good intention it is just that there are few users who had been making fun of the system by destroying other's reputation and does making it worst like sending few other users as well.

As far as the business of bounty management is concerned, Bounty Detective has built a world class reputation over the years and is a respected brand with great connections to some of the most prestigious crypto entrepreneurs.

In all other venues I have encountered the name Bounty Detective, it was met with pleasant feedback and strong professionalism. @theymos, @cyrus and staff should bear in mind the fact that many reputable crypto actors have met similar black propaganda and defamation operations on this forum, and it should be another wake up call for them to revise the DT1 list and the Trust System in general.

Meta is the best place to present any and all instances of the DT scum bag scammer crew abusing the trust system.
Suchmoon is part of that crew make no mistake.
Alway first to oppose warnings on proven scammers like lauda.

The trust system is openly abused to the point where the DT scammer crew will tag and flag anyone that presents evidence of their scamming and financially motivated wrongdoing.

The problem is they want to take all the best rev streams here albeit sigs, campaign management,  escrow, etc. If you notice them scamming or bring competition to their rev streams they will find a way via the trust system to abuse your account.

So many people notice this but as yet have not organised or mobilised to crush them.
They are not directly vulnerable but their sponsors are.

Their sponsors should not be paying or sponsoring this kind of scammy behavior.

Meantime meta is a far better board to bring irrefutable evidence of the trust system being used like a protection racket by scammers and scammer protectors that have voted themselves on to DT.

I agree.

If honesty is so important to you why you hosted CryptoBharatCoin airdrop,when its scam? 04.08.2020 you launched  airdrop and if you check,you would see they copied whitepaper and website from someone else.It was reported on bitcointalk 08.05. 2020,3 months before your airdrop so you cant say you didnt know. Warning - Cryptobharat plagiarized whitepaper and use stolen content (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5246783.0).

https://i.imgur.com/duGzWbx.png



But that is not only scam you promoted. What about ECOS,cloud mining company?One of the requirements for tokens you set that participants have to share fake positive review on TrustPilot and other sites.You think that is honesty,paid positive review?

https://i.imgur.com/Eh6PqL7.png


Can someone quote my post so photo with evidence is visible?

Hello, the sub-account of the biggest scam gang on Bitcointalk. You guys are publishing something, and below that post, you drool with your lies.
You can't use your real account because if you do so, we will prove you guys have hundreds of victims whom you scammed as we did before.

First of all, we did not host those airdrops. We published them. (You guys can't breathe without lying)

Secondly, if requiring a positive review on a platform is a scam, we should altogether cancel the bounties and airdrops.

Should the video campaigns, article campaigns, the signature campaigns have "negative reviews" about the projects?

Is it why projects reward those people?

"Hello, please write an article about us that swears us."

"Hello, please record a video and insult us."

Guys, actually, we thought our enemies were more intelligent, but you disappointed us.

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Welcome again, dear Korean language "can't translator". We know you are angry with us because we fired you and did not urgently give you the $80 reward you begged us for weeks before other bounty participants. Luckily, at the latest you got your reward, which you never deserved.

Of course, we will not respond to your slanders directly, but we will inform other people about your lies with our truths.
Dear followers,

As Airdrop Detective and Bounty Detective, we already do attentive researches regarding several criteria. We deny at least %90 of the promotion proposals because they don't fit in our standards. Please refer to this thread's topic 4 to see tens of proofs supporting our claim.

We observe all of the airdrop and bounty platforms. Unfortunately, the majority of those channels don't even do research. Still, the airdrops and bounties published by us have the best success ratio. Besides, none of the airdrop channels can have %100 legit and paid airdrop promotions; this market is tough. If anyone can show us a channel having %100 legit projects and paid airdrops, we will quit this market immediately.

We already publish very few airdrops compared to all airdrop channels, which is another proof of our attention to legitimacy. Otherwise, every day we can publish several airdrops, not only a maximum of 20 airdrops a month.

We know you can't reply to us with your real accounts because this time, we will again uncover the hundreds of scam accusations about you guys.

It would help if you were sure of one thing: "Bounty Detective is not afraid of you guys like you scared and pressured many people to date, with your gang's, abused trust system.

We will be the voice of the people who you victimized, gave unfair negative trust, and scammed.


Note: A new thread, which has extra proofs about the Bitcointalk trust abuser gangs is on the way.




[moderator's note: consecutive posts merged]

Thank you.



Ok, so you were paid to promote them,big difference.You were paid to promote airdrop of scam,you directly helped scammers to reach more people.That makes you scammer too.  Also,you said that all airdrops are verified,but how did you verified it if you promoted obvious scam?So KingCasino and ClipX were not only cases you promoted scams.



If it is ok to ask for positive review,why dont you have it in your bounties,or anyone else.For your articles and videos you just say make a review,you dont ask for positive review because this would look like getting paid for shilling.Shilling is unethical and dishonest.For your next bounty write that you ask for positive reviews and videos and we will see what happens.

Look what happened to someone that was selling fake reviews,he was tagged.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5251616.0


Suchmoon,xenon131 and other dt members, is this enough evidence for flag on bountydetective?

Sir i can see clearly that many people are not seriously happy with you and your team progress in the industry, they are trying their best to make sure your images are being tarnished, such a wicked world we are how could they use their valuable power to make sure they brings you down and likely using their rank in the system to intimidate people and given us (your team) red trust in the system. this is a very bad habit as a member of btt could do to you, with little research and statistics i have made so far you have managed so many project that has given my friends in the industry good some of money which made me to declare interest to promotes your project. with the evidence you have provided so far you have nothing to blame off, because i as know so far before a manger could handle any project he or she will have to do his researched before accepting to promote such project the cryptospace, which if project succeed or not it is not from your side, they project may decide to fold off or possibly not meeting their soft cap as proposed does not mean you should be penalized. everyone has to do his or research before putting his resources in the project or like-wisely promoting the project.

well my little advise to you is that remember to every market or department we have haters and hiters whose tried their possible best to wave you off from the industry. As long as i m in the system you have done nothing to deserved such punishment of flagging you red trust, so don't get worried by those who doesn't know their left and right. we are for you out for you to protect you, beside you to follow help and end the accusation and allegation, sir you get our support.

don't be worried by commoner whose try to beat and boast himself as oppressor thinking he can wave you down.
BountyDetectives is doing a very nice work

Best Regards sir.
@Mrharry210

@bountydetective just continue your work and be professional. Try to avoid projects that obviously don't have future. Half of your previous project didn't or if they pay, The amount of the token is almost useless which is very unfair to all bounty hunters that work for you for more than a month. The problem was you keep accepting many shady project and managing them without guarantee that the hunters will receive there token. You should escrow tokens or crypto with value for assurance.

In my observation. You keep accepting project as long as it pays you for management without consideration on your participants safety.

This is just my honest comment but you can always improve for betterment. Prove yourself and this negative feedback will be counter/remove once you show improvement. You can do it. Don't waste your time whining here because the negative trust has a proof.

Bounty detective you are doing great job. I advise you just ignore those people who gave you negative trust and keep doing good work. just give you my last 4 sendeble merit to you for your support.

Bounty detective you are one of the most sincere manager i have ever seen in this platform and you have successfully manage so many projects in the last one year. I can see clearly that many people are not seriously happy with your progress. the heart of people are full of evil.  since i have been in the system you have done nothing to deserve this ungrateful act by flaging you red trust. once again sir thank u for your good works.

You have made a serious evidence to show clearly that you have done nothing wrong, and why they don't do their research before anticipating in your projects.. I think those that claims to be the people flagging red trust to you should actually run a search before reactions.

Just keep your good work doing as you are really a man of honesty and credibility with great integrity.

Thank you, we will have more evidence. We have opened this thread to prove the abusing of the trust system in Bitcointalk. Interestingly, those people gave us some more proofs themselves. You can see another proof below:

https://imgur.com/TD72QGF

Both guys' comments about the negative trusts are copy/paste. They don't even read anything and spend a few minutes to write a separate comment about negative trust. What kind of fair and objective trust system is this? Will not Bitcointalk moderators do anything about these unjustnesses in this forum?

Will these guys continue to frustrate anyone they choose? We have a community, channels, social accounts, etc. so people can hear our voice. What about the victims who don't have that opportunity?

Those guys still refer to the ClipX post, which does not have even one reasonable point. "The ClipX CEO asked KYC from bounty participants, so it is Bounty Detective's fault, they are untrustworthy" This is crazy. We have confuted that with several proofs. However, still a ridiculous thread can still be referenced as a "proof."

This unfairness can't last forever; sooner or later, it will be fixed. Bitcointalk's reputation and website traffic is decreasing. Losing time is irrational. The trust system of Bitcointalk should completely be changed. The current situation was not the dream of the creator of this forum and also senior managers.

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Ok, so you were paid to promote them,big difference.You were paid to promote airdrop of scam,you directly helped scammers to reach more people.That makes you scammer too.  Also,you said that all airdrops are verified,but how did you verified it if you promoted obvious scam?So KingCasino and ClipX were not only cases you promoted scams.





First, it is weird a person using an alt account while he/she is mentioning about honesty and ethics. Unfortunately, some moderators are even deleting our "thank you" messages to the supporters. Still, they don't ban these kinds of prominent alt accounts or delete posts, which includes rude language and swear.

Secondly, every published airdrop is not paid. You have no idea about how airdrops work. Furthermore, yes, our airdrops are "verified." It means we don't share fake airdrops, which are not officially published by the project.
Although Airdrop Detective is off-topic for this thread, as everyone can see, we can make a countercharge against an accuser transparently and honestly, without using an alt account or trying to manipulate other users.

We wonder about the gangs' opinions about many exit scam projects' bounties promoted by some "legendary, hero airdrop managers" in this forum. Will you give all of those bounty managers a "negative trust," or is this something unique to Bounty Detective?

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I can't agree less. The trust system here is really crazy. I bet this is way beyond the reasons for creating this forum. I want to ask the moderators, why pick on anyone that says good about the BountyDetectives? Why go on a deleting spree on my account after I made a positive feedback on BountyDetectives? Are you just seeing those post now after they were made several days and weeks ago? The posts you deleted from my account were never off topic and they are much more better than most of the posts made by all these supposed high ranks in this forum. It's quite sad to see that those who should look into issues and settle them are the ones aggravating same issues.

BountyDetectives, keep up the good work. All this hate here won't stop you from doing the genuine work you do, that's what I believe. They can as well delete this post but one thing I know, justice must prevail, it will only take time.

Bounty Detective i want to use this opportunity to thank you for all the good work you have been doing, you are one of the most sincere bounty manager i have ever seen. but i don't know why people are so wicked to the extend of trying to tarnish your image, after all your good work, and they flag you a Red trust.
don't worry the lord shall see you true, thank you sir. 

Every project that is launched for promotion in the bounty campaign cannot be sure that this will be successful or not much before, the project looks good but in the end it is a scam because their product is not developing properly so this will also have an impact on the bounty manager

Therefore, every manager must accept the risk if something unwanted happens and the escrow guarantee is very important so that everyone knows that the funds have been held by the manager.

I have participated in several bounty managed by bounty detective. I think bounty detective is very sincere and professional bounty manager. They take the bounty hunters' complaints very seriously. They have a very active support team who are providing 24 hours service. There are very few bounty managers like bounty detective.

Look at today the bounty detective has re-launched the bounty that he managed before, I have posted about some of the successful distribution, a sign that with good work in their team they are able to provide extraordinary service to the complaints that will be faced.

However, they still have to have a team of investigators to check the project before it is launched into the bounty campaign so that this will be much better than getting caught or caught with violations that the members of this forum find.

Wow. This is exactly what this forum desperately needs.

5 grand - this is the price of your reputation.  (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5281562.msg55364086#msg55364086). This will truly improve it, not.

What the fuck does that even mean,

probably a 1st on Bitcointalk, that a Bounty management group pays out of its own pockets when a project fails, even though there are disclaimers everywhere that a Bounty manager is not a partner or co-owner of the business,

and yet you are still complaining, please put things into perspective before you start the machine gun burst propaganda program...

You cant buy your good reputation back for $5,000 in BNB. You need to gain it by managing lots of successful campaigns.
You cant just manage campaign, shift responsibilities, throw 5 grands to people and be nice and fluffy again.

LOL fucking hell... as if spamming this thread with fake-ass "vouching" is not enough, they're gonna try to spam the rest of the forum.

If someone wants to improve their report-to-mod percentage - this is a good chance. These "bounty detectives" are some of the most illiterate dipshits around here.

what a bitter nasty creature, feel free to disregard rabid cultist ~suchmoon entirely,

she is too distraught at the moment because her notorious criminal buddy just pretended to self-destruct on that other infamous thread  ::) ;

try contributing something to the crypto space for a change instead of milking it for salaries with your low-info low-skill messages, I guarantee you will feel much better as a human being, good luck

Wow.  OP hereby, #2695747 “BountyDetective” has the dubious distinction of having received Lauda’s (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5282911.0) very last sent negative feedback:


Having now wasted carefully spent way too much time examining the referenced thread, I didn’t even bother writing my own creative and incisive feedback text—just copied Lauda’s big red cat-scratch.  BountyDetective is that horrible.

I'm contributing by cleaning up "bounty detective" shitposting. You're welcome.

For people like you, even reputation should have a price. If reputation had a price, we would buy you a bigger one for 1 Dogecoin.

For us and other honorable people, reputation can't be bought; it can be gained, and keeping a promise is a way of it.

The giveaway was already promised before, and we kept our promise as we always did: https://imgur.com/SKXkJFY

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We accept Bounty Detective entering a manipulated and abused industry mostly shared by a gang for the last few years can be annoying and frightening for you guys.

However, we will not leave this market to a gang that has above a thousand complaints and untrusted ratings. Especially not after this thread, which motivated us.

You are using every opportunity and authority of Bitcointalk's senior managers provided you for managing this forum for your selfish benefits, for attacking us and to other people who are doing honest business and not submitting your decayed and outdated "system."

Imagine a law court; the prosecutor, the judge, and the lawyers are from the same team, which is even criminal. It is something crazy. Unfortunately, this is Bitcointalk's current situation. Sooner or later, someone will stop this absurdity. They will not let the oldest forum of the wave of the future being wasted for several people's "unfair monthly income." 

We are speeding us the process. It would help if you guys were grateful to us because you will have to look for a real job soon, thanks to us.

Crypto is freedom, and despotism can't survive here. You can just gain time, but you can't win. We are clean and transparent, but your history is dirty, which has thousands of victims.
We invested more in this business and hired more people. Thanks to you guys, more people are employed. (Sorry, we will not hire you)

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I never participated in a bounty campaign, so I dont know how it works. I'm posting here because the OP contacted me, about the Lauda gang.

Lauda gang is a fraud. They pose as bulls, but defend paper speculation over crypto, which never brings bullish results.
I dont think there is a solution to the problem of "reputation" in this forum. Every forum have its cliques, and when you top it with a reputation system, the dominating clique entrenches in its structure, and starts to bully people. It is the case we see here.
But we can fight it back: every time they give a -1 trust, you give a -1 to them as well. Dont be afraid of these bullies. The only thing that matters here is profit.

Bitcoin is finally going up, the way I described it earlier: it needs to breach the 12k to start the bull run, and its finally happening. And now I'm also stacked with altcoins, so the gains might be even higher. I'm invested in Ethereum, Link, Monero and Cardano. All great projects.

Defamation.  And a pitiably weak job of it, I might add.  This attempt at constructing a bizarre conspiracy theory is peculiarly absurd, now more than ever.

“The only thing that matters here is profit.”  Um, so why did Lauda herself request for her own account (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5282911.0) to be banned by theymos (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5282911.msg55409865#msg55409865), to protect it from being abused—instead of selling it for profit, or exit-scamming (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5282911.msg55425159#msg55425159)?  /logic

The rest of the following is also malicious nonsense, considered as a whole:

Some members have had the misfortune of ignoring Cryptohunter, I urge the viewership to rethink that decision so as not to miss out on his brilliant literary talents,

a few brief excerpts from which I quote below as it's by far the best and most concise summary of this truly disturbing sex offender (and trust abuser) called ~nullius.


I might be inclined to add some more genius commentary by Cryptohunter, if dirty perv nullius continues to spam professional threads (emphases mine)...




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So bitcoin going up is malicious nonsense. Thanks for clarifying.

Bounty Detective has done nothing wrong to deserve all this, recently i have been tracking down some of his work and records the screenshot he has shared here have proven to us that he is not guilty of what you are saying, he ran projects yes is true but if a project does not succeed does not mean you he is charge on the project team can decides to fold down the project or not.
Bounty detective is innocent to deserved all the allegations.

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Recently HOMT token has paid, and i received my rewards, i wonder telling him he is not straightforward. as i know very well, Bounty Detective is a very straightforward and transparent to all his community members. please i beg of those trying to mal him down to stop doing all they are doing all just trying to prosecute him.. i know of other bounty managers who's manager managed many works and they don't pay us till now, where they prosecuted for not paying us?

No!

because they were using the project name create a btt account after all they will say is the project that will pay after which they have made away with participants funds.

can any of you here tell me if they have not scam or Everly cheated in their entire life?

if you can boldly say No or Yes. then let the law of Karma judge you for prosecuting Bounty Detective


one love

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Bounty detective, people are just jealous of your achievement on the blockchain technology, I have really benefited from several bounty project manage by you. Such as AMZCOIN people where saying it was scam, but to there greatest surprise AMZCOIN was a legit project, it also made a lot of rich that believed in the project. You are a good man, looking forward to work on the project u are managing.

I haven't noticed suchmoon being all that distraught by Lauda's departure.  I think your perception of reality is a little bit askew, but I don't think there's anyone here who'd be able to help you with that.

This sounds like a wee bit of jealousy rearing its head.  In case you haven't noticed, suchmoon has earned quite a few merits, and that is an indication of what the community thinks about a member's posts, whether you agree with that or not.  Thus suchmoon is doing something right.  If anyone is guilty of making "low-info low-skill" messages, it's me--but only if we're considering the technical aspects of bitcoin.  Come to think of it, I don't tend to make a lot of posts about things I'm ignorant of, unless it's to ask a question.  Anyway.

Yeah, I'm seeing a lot of that going on here and it's obvious as hell.  Time to put the "report post" button to heavy use, just like the old days.  Wheeee.

“Considered as a whole (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5281160.msg55431318#msg55431318)”, the absolute totality of all you say is one big lie.

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Quote from: Vine ekegwu on October 24, 2020, 07:08:20 PM

Bounty detective, people are just jealous of your achievement on the blockchain technology, I have really benefited from several bounty project manage by you. Such as AMZCOIN people where saying it was scam, but to there greatest surprise AMZCOIN was a legit project, it also made a lot of rich that believed in the project. You are a good man, looking forward to work on the project u are managing.

Unholy forking hell.  I just skimmed your whole post history.  The above-quoted post is your very first post that is not a bounty registration post (!).

Accounts like this should be banned.  (And whine threads such as this are good for shaking bad accounts out of the woodwork!)

Quote from: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2850046

October 24, 2020, 08:21:15 PM

Summary - Vine ekegwu

Name:	Vine ekegwu
Posts:	74
Activity:	70
Merit:	0
Position:	Newbie
Date Registered:	September 04, 2020, 12:15:45 PM

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Edit 2020-10-26:  “Vine ekegwu” is spamming this thread with a canned statement.  Compare the below quote to the above.  (Reporting—please report these to the moderators.)

Quote from: Vine ekegwu on October 25, 2020, 11:10:38 AM

Bounty detective, people are just jealous of your achievement on the blockchain technology, I have really benefited from several bounty project manage by you. Such as AMZCOIN people where saying it was scam, but to there greatest surprise AMZCOIN was a legit project, it also made a lot of rich that believed in the project. You are a good man, looking forward to work on the project u are managing.

End of edit.

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Quote from: The Pharmacist on October 24, 2020, 07:33:58 PM

Quote from: Vispilio on October 21, 2020, 10:36:29 PM

she is too distraught at the moment because her notorious criminal buddy just pretended to self-destruct on that other infamous thread  ::) ;

I haven't noticed suchmoon being all that distraught by Lauda's departure.  I think your perception of reality is a little bit askew, but I don't think there's anyone here who'd be able to help you with that.

Nominated as a candidate for Sarcastic Compound Understatement of the Year.  Bitter medicine, that.

You don't know that, I might have been secretly crying for days :'( but this has nothing to do with the shitposter detective. This thread was started before Lauda's departure and didn't refer to Lauda in any way until one of the shitposters brought the cat up on page 5 or 6.

OTOH Vispilio is curiously protective of the detective, to the point of trying to push said detective into DT1 with the help of our resident malignant narcissist:

Thanks for your urban critique, mr. sensible armchair activist; what a wonderful way to interject yourself into a thread that should concern you fuck-0 under

natural circumstances, that is if you were an independent individual emancipated from the hive mentality that insures your continued lucrative existence here ;) ...




Some would say it's a glitch in the matrix, or just dramatic irony, that you type these words while wearing (and allegedly getting paid for) a `merit cycling club` avatar;

disclaimer for the benefit of the extremely gullible: 🍀 "it's just a playful inside joke between the reptilian cult members of Bitcointalk" 🍀

As for me bounty detective is the best bounty manager I have seem in the blockchain technology, Bounty Detective pls don't mind what people are saying about you, just continue your job work.

Almost every bounty manager managed 1/2 scam bounties. Some bounty payments have been pending for years. Some bounty tokens are not actually being listed in exchange for years. Nobody talks about any of those bounty managers. They are still managing the bounty. But why is Bounty Detective being the sufferer alone.  Bounty Hunters trust Bounty Detective. Because hundreds of people is joining in a moment whenever a new bounty is posted by Bounty Detective. Even after getting negative trust. So I want to tell Bounty Detective to continue your good work without looking back.

You just got yourself in real troubles.

You have registered in September 2020, and you say you got benefits from bounty that was under Bounty Detective management in 2019 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5210456.0).

You "really benefited from several bounty project" - but you have participated so far only in EXCORE FINANCE (performed exit scam) and INVISION (still running). Either you are cheating with bounties and forum hounds will find who you really are, or lying and there will never be a believe in your words.

Actually you are already caught - cheater (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2544574.msg55449090#msg55449090) !

Which is why they’re supposed to escrow their stakes? You know, so people don’t end up working for free? Don’t act like it’s perfectly normal for people’s payouts to get delayed for years because it’s not, that’s exactly why signature campaign managers hold multiple weeks of funds for their clients in advance.

Not all their bounty campaign is escrowed and that's the problem they made need to be solved, I have worked for them and actually received the rewards but those rewards are useless, but it's not detective faults, its happens. The issue I have with them is delay of payment which I often I receive then after your mind is out of them. I can day their followers gets reward late unfortunately will cause them to sell at low price making the outcome worthless.

Still controlling the distribution is done by the team after the manager hands over the sheet to the owner, but here sometimes most of them are not on time and that's what makes the bounties angry about this, Detective only does what the owner has ordered but he is also willing if the escrow on the team is desirable but if they cackle at the control of the team then a manager can only tell the participants about the update.

And In my opinion that their community in good enough and they have been doing good job. Bounty detective community almost distribute tokens thigh they have not any kind of worth. As for as I have joined their HOMT bounty though that was only worth of almost 1 dollars and and at the time bounty these tokens were almost 90 dollars and that is the reason they have been bringing appt of scam projects.
And despite of distribution theses tokens has not any kind of worth. And we have been joining there projects of almost 4 months but not got anything yet.
So they should be doing some good projects that are already in CMC, so that bounty people can make enough good money from this.
And there are some PROS of bounty detective,
1. They distribute all coins.
2. They are honest in distribution.
3. So only distribution is good.

CONS:-
1. they have no worth.
2. They are wasting people time.
3. Their bounties have no worth when distribution.
So that depends upon you what you think.

self-contradictory opinions resembling BPD, followed by red trust, no surprises here, there should be a psych evaluation before letting some newbies post in Reputation...

Stop shilling your sockpuppet... your charade is over:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5289777.msg55639064#msg55639064

will be good if you will stop your shilling

Can someone stop this bored housewife from stalking me across the forum, it's getting just a little bit obsessive, and you know, totally insane...

Imagine you are a new crypto enthusiast reading the forum, and you see one of the most popular and active members, with an artificial green trust sheet and gigantic amount of cycled merits,

spew so much toxic hatred and false accusations day in day out, how would you feel about including yourself in such a forum ?

For the wellness of Bitcointalk, administration should put a check on the likes of ~suchmoon and similar cultists...

Not a bad attempt at deflection but it doesn't really justify your actions - including your sockpuppet account BountyDetective in your trust list, sending merits to it, shilling it while pretending to be a different person... not cool.

maybe you fucked her and didn't pay? ) or she sucked your dick and want again and again))
she cant relax )) nothing change)

Are you Bounty Detective (https://loyce.club/archive/posts/5563/55637113.html)?

If so, not only have you been sending merits to yourself and trusting yourself, but you've apparently enrolled yourself in your own campaign. I guess that's not entirely unethical if you were up front about it from the start. But after all it is the HEX campaign and I don't really care what happens to Richard Heart's money.

No, for the final time, I'm most assuredly not Bounty Detective. Also the organization called "Bounty Detective" is not a singular entity.

I was briefly partners with them, but for completely unrelated reasons, as of Dec 2020, even that is no longer the case, so I hope this flimsy conspiracy theory is put to rest. Thanks.

It's not about some shitposting "organization", you illiterate dingleberry. It's about the account that you used to make that post... and don't start pretending that you didn't. It's a copypasta of your own post from here:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5225711.msg55592006#msg55592006

So what are the chances that (a) your "partner" for some inexplicable reason plagiarised your post - a bump post, who the fuck does that? - or that (b) you posted that bump.

It's a great style for a bump post, they appreciate art and aesthetics (topics far beyond your paygrade I know  ;) ), they must have liked it, so they copied it,

for a while we were working together on a few things, so they were asking me for lots of advice on style and writing, etc.


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With that said, I've already done enough advertising for Hex for 1 week  :), so any further petty questions of yours will need to wait till Thursday, take care ~suchmoon

"They" must must have liked your Bitcointalk user ID and your telegram handle too, so they copied those as well.

Also "they" must have taken English lessons from you because Bounty Detective sounds like Vispilio e.g. here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5289777

So do some of the shitbumpers in that thread that never posted anything in English until one day they decided to shill for Bounty Detective, e.g.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5289777.msg55653852#msg55653852

Makes perfect sense in your make-believe universe where you're smarter than everyone else and everything you say is true.

It is a bit weird, though, how they copied your profile ID and Telegram as well... wouldn't you say? They didn't think to at least substitute those bits of information for their own?


Vispilio does have good English but Bounty Detective doesn't really have enough written material to make an apt comparison between the two. I'd say Bounty Detective using Vispilio's telegram and profile ID is weird enough by itself.

I'm not sure about that, the OP uses a lot of words in good English, better than Vispilio, not all of them I've read either. Also bare in mind that it's quite likely there are more than one person involved in this, the OP could have been written by some "marketing" type, while someone else can be more in charge of the bounty side of things, replies etc? Anyway. Retracted. (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5281160.msg55737841#msg55737841)

I've looked into this situation "a bit", not thoroughly. I'm mainly posting in this thread to keep an on the situation developing from now on. I've otherwise joined one of their bounties as an experiment elsewhere, due to the OP. I had always considered their bounties to be scams, but now I'm considering otherwise, pending proof of concept.

It also seems clear from the evidence provided (source lost but suchmoon posted it) that Vispilio was their bounty manager support, without a shadow of doubt. But not that he "runs" Bounty Detective, or that he remains in management with the team today. At least from talks I have had with their support person when investigating this team, it seems pretty clear to me they have a different support member now running things on the ground. I also realise I could be completely wrong about this, but evidence is lacking in both directions as to who's running or managing this project and is unlikely to be gained either way. My opinion as well as experiment is also bias, due to my affiliation with another platform, but I'm trying to remain neutral for the time being. Someone would otherwise need to consolidate these 7 pages of concerns, as well as another 10 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5276354), into a summarised account of why the OP is a scammer. Ideally with convincing evidence, not just that a project they ran bounty for exit scammed, they abused the trust system, and their opinions are unpopular to some...

To me abusing the trust system makes you a shithead, it doesn't make you a scammer by default, but maybe there's something else in 17 pages I'm missing.

It does make you a high risk when you're abusing the trust system to silence legitimate complaints about your "business".

Also witness the glorious stream of shitposters bumping this thread, scam ANN style.

But if you're waiting for the OP to admit "yes, I'm a sockpuppeting lying piece of shit who doesn't really have a million bounty hunters" then yeah, it's probably not going to happen.

I do see your point here, and also agree retaliatory negative feedback serves no good, unless valid. To me it would be much more of an issue if legitimate complaints from bounty hunters were met with negative trust, but this doesn't seem the case (that I'm aware of). In this case, it just looks like pointless retaliation, that doesn't even show as DT either. It doesn't indicate to me that their bounty hunters would get negged for raising criticisms, which to me would make the team high-risk for sure, especially if account were DT. In fact, I see one cheater received neutral trust that proves otherwise to me, as well as other neutral trust that appears to be appropriate use of the trust system (an opinion, whether right or wrong). Further insight. (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5281160.msg55734893#msg55734893)

I'd say risk(/reward) remains reasonable personally, a project might exit scam (of course), though high-risk to me implies most exist scam, bounty hunters get negged, or otherwise.


Yeh I noticed, I hope you're not including me in this list either! This will be my last post unless others engage in this discussion further with me, to enlighten me. I can also understand bounty hunters coming to the support of their manager, it ironically tells me more that there are users that have received these bounty rewards, rather than the idea of being scammed. While it can be annoying, having an army of shitposters doesn't confirm someone is a scammer either, even if often enough this can be the case. This is why most bounties should be considered medium risk by default basically.


Ok, that's settled then. Thanks for explaining, I don't want to waste more time on this issue to be honest, I'll just keep eye on it.

It did happen. BD negged Mpamaegbu and some other posters in this thread. That's what my neg trust on BD is about. Some of those negs were revised to neutrals a few weeks later.


BD was briefly in DT2 courtesy of OgNasty. All those negs lit up as DT-red.


It absolutely does indicate exactly that.


Are you a shitposter? If not then I'm probably not including you :)


An army of shitposters magically finding their way to this thread, learning to speak English for the first time in their lives, etc indicates that the OP doesn't have 7 pages of real support. Those are either OP's sockpuppets or some telegram lemmings told to go post here. While I wouldn't red-tag for shitposting or even for soliciting shitposting - reported a bunch of them instead - it is a sign of dishonesty and of risk dealing with OP.

Wait what ?  ;D Way to throw me under the bus, out of all the things you said this sentence is the most surreal of all, and your credibility will go up 100x if you correct this provably false statement.

I'm willing to bet 100 BTC that Bounty Detective organization is now reaching out to some senior members to paint things in a very different light to save face here and manipulate people into misrepresenting certain realities about them;

I will leave it at that, under the condition that the real sneaky McCoy who calls himself BountyDetective immediately stops his dirty tactics of manipulation, it's just so disgusting and unethical on so many levels ;)

English is your first language, right? Vispilio has a bigger vocabulary than many native English speakers -- not sure how much attention you've been paying to his posts.

What about the fact that BountyDetective copy/pasted a post with Vispilio's social media information, and then instead of just correcting it to their own they deleted it? Doesn't register?

In any case, I don't really care as most bounties are for either scams or shit projects, but it seems like they are 100% the same people.

Thanks for elaborating, I wasn't aware of this. I'm glad to hear the situation has since been resolved by those negs removed and changed to netrual, for me this is worthy of consideration. I do see your point though if shitposters were directed to this thread, I would assume BD weren't stupid enough to do so, maybe only letting their loyal long term bounty hunters aware of something, but I do see your point and starting to realise there's a lot I don't know about this situation as well as this team.


Ok, I removed it. I think I might have initially mistaken you for someone else. It's also not quite what I meant, more so that it appears to be a different style of writing, at least to me.


Manipulate others into believing certain realities about them or the situation, possible. Hence I'm trying to understand things better. I'll bare this in mind thanks.


Ok, so you don't like BountyDetective anymore, though you were involved before and stuff, noted.


Yes one them, and using a wider range of vocabulary doesn't necessary mean you speak better English either. I haven't been paying that much attention to his posts no, not for a while at least, and probably shouldn't be comparing, especially since haven't read all of what BD wrote either. None the less the style of English appears very different to me, this is what I should have said. Native English speakers don't use a complex grasp of English generally speaking, unless you've studied it, myself included, thus it can be easier to read and understand. Vispilio probably writes in "Higher English", this is completely subjective whether this is a better English or not and depends on the context. BountyDetective appear to write in "Standard English", more basic and understandable English, those that natives are more used to, depending on the context - in my opinion.


To me it seems like Vispilio was part of their team, based on the evidence provided, but quite clearly not anymore. Unless he sadistically enjoys slandering his own project as a passing hobby, an intriguing but unrealistic conspiracy theory imo. I haven't looked at "date of deletion" to see if this relevant or not, but also feel it's besides the point.


Shit projects, for sure. Most coins are shitcoins right? I don't think this makes these bounty programs scams though.

I'm surprised after what I've read you still think Vispilio is BountyDetective, but what do I know.

Wish I hadn't bothered posting in this thread now  ::) Even if I do appreciate the diversity of people's concerns that have been raised here.

Cool story. Were you drugged or forced at gunpoint to shill for them? Are they still #1 in the world, or not anymore?

At the risk of giving them some more free publicity :) :

They are number 1 in certain metrics, far behind in others, I like Detective as a group, I greatly dislike the proprietor, so it's true I severed my collaboration with them...

^ hex.com

That domain could have sold for six figures, but associating it with a ponzi destroyed that.  :/

The word that you seek is “meatpuppet (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:MEATPUPPET)”, a term that I am introducing to this forum from Wikipedia’s editing community; for a correct usage example:

Shitposters streaming in from a TG channel most assuredly qualify as meatpuppets.

Observe that the WP:MEATPUPPET link redirects to WP:SOCKPUPPET, and both related concepts are defined and discussed on the same page.  “Oh, see my support from all of these bounty-chasers who came from my TG channel, created new accounts, and posted what I told them to!” is textbook greedy shill meatpuppetry, not different in practice than sockpuppetry.  Moreover, I think that it qualifies as incentivized forum spam; such spam should be deleted by the moderators, given sufficient evidence that that is the source of the flood of “supportive” Newbie posts.  If I had time to kill seriously investigating each account on a case-by-case basis, I would also consider tagging such accounts.

A general note, while I am defining new terms to the forum:  Judiciousness must be used in accusations of meatpuppetry.  People who happen to agree, or who simply are friends, are not thereby automatically meatpuppets of each other.  In my opinion, in the abstract, the key question is whether or not people are exercising independent judgment and voicing their own independent opinions.  Wikipedia’s definition offers us one clear indicator that they are not, and it is directly applicable to this thread:


See also, “astroturfing”.

/me is a loose cannon, the extreme opposite of a meatpuppet.  (Source: nullius.)

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I see what you did there.

Now, I will buy it for chump change^* and permanently redirect it to the Catbat Witch’s goodbye thread. 😼 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5282911.0)

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* For users who have been BANNED by Sarcasm, I should explain:  Maybe not six figures; and I doubt that the value of the domain on the “domainer” market is not really affected by whatever garbage it has showed.  That they use the domain for this rather than selling it illustrates how profitable SCAMS can be for those at the top of the pyramid, at least for awhile...  For comparison, bitcoin.com would still be worth plenty—despite its currently being abused to host a scam (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5294976.msg55726971#msg55726971).  Vod cast a hell of a pun, and I am exercising humour under its spell.