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I know many project managers that handles good projects such as Jamalezaz, bounty detective, and many others most of them are either hero members or legend, I believe they have enough experience to handle it mere considering their ranks, not to say the rank is the only criteria to be a good project manager.i always doubt those project starters with newbie ranks.is it that they decide to use a new forum page,or were the restarting after being hacked or disqualified or how come a new be is handling a project? This are few questions that comes to my mind about newbie managers.

It's vice versa bro, not all high ranked members are reliable either and I've joined few projects from jr members that turned out very well, it's only a bit better with high ranking members but do not rely on projects just because they are introduced by High rank members of the forum, though I trust bubbalex the most but still I do my own research

Depends, There are some factor like if they are manager or represantive from the project. Basically it's ok to not full trusted some new manager but it also not mean you can just trust higher member though, There are some example like TokenSuite that have legendary member but not really can be trusted in the other way even there are some problem before but so far i really satisfied with lower rank manager like Bounty Detective. Sometimes there also new account that created to become an represantive of the project like Arweave, it can be trusted but not all same like that.

Just do your own research before investing, joining, etc on every project on the crypto, Careful and good luck!

I was confused by your title, maybe you can try fixing it.

I don’t base on ranks but I base my judgment on the quality of the project that they run. We cannot assure that campaigns run by high ranking members will always become successful  sometimes its really disappointing. Its always our due diligence as bounty hunters to choose what campaigns we like to be part of.

I've two points to your question as observed above.

1. One of the criteria for starting and managing a project should be experience. I feel, some newbie that start projects might have had experience elsewhere.

2. Knowledge is the second criteria. A project manager must be knowledgeable about the crypto space and all the nitty gritty involved.

Same apply, perhaps he might have massive knowledge before coming to this forum.

Forum ranks is not the most importand thing to look at when choosinf project to participate in.
How can a project with new idea have already high ranked account? That is impossible. Doing your own report is what matters. Highly ranked bounty manager is just a little discount that you can get while doing your own investigation if project ie legible or not.

I'm here in the forum for almost 5 years and I witnessed those bounty managers who managed bounty campaign. As you can see, most of them have a negative tag on their profile because of promoting scam projects. Because they also didn't know if a good project that someday it will become a scam nor exit scam. No one really knows if you only rely on the manager, they have been paid by the company they're promoting. But honestly, the most well-known bounty managers have a point factor considering as a good project but don't you ever rely on this.

The best thing you can do to this matter is to have enough time checking all documents of the project had, from whitepaper to a roadmap, and then the last part is the team behind the project.

Newbie bounty managers might be part of the project's team and does not want to hire managers maybe because they are short in budget. Still, I don't trust them. I still look at their project's website, whitepaper and the team behind the project before i participate on their campaign.

If they are real newbie why they post it in the right section and with full details of the campaign like what professional managers do.

I think they are not newbie they are just using newbie account to secured thier main account for possible issue and be tagged for that.

It's not about who manage the campaign but the project you want to promote always look for the bounties they are offering if they promise large allocated amount then its most likely to be scam.

no problem,
because in my opinion the most important thing about the project is the team behind the project, concept, and what the project will bring to crypto world for example the tech and features inside buddy, so a newbie is not a big issue for me

I believe so too. I cant remember if I have joined a campaign managed by bounty detective but there were projects that he had handled that made it to the exchange where bounty hunters also earned from it. I wouldn't see it as scam after but things could be different if the project died all because its IEO is from a dubious exchange. I don't believe bounty detective though is a main account, he must have used it just for the campaign management. The campaign result depend still to the team if they arent scam.

Honestly, I don't have trust on all newbies that starts the bounty topic here through themselves.
It's risky that the efforts that you've extended will just go into waste if they happened to be a scam project.
There are reputable bounty managers here, they can be trusted to handle, and to win the trust of users that the project is legitimate.
But sometimes, even them, can be fooled by those scam project(I said this as I read some reputable bounty managers posted about this claim).

Rank matters a lot in deciding which project I will promote a newbie can never be allow to manage a bitcoin paying signature campaign except the fund had been escrowed with a reputable and trusted member of the forum this has to be with trust.
A lot of scam projects in bounty section had been managed by some newbies whose trust is not guaranteed although some higher ranked members who had one managed some projects too has some scam issues arising from non payment of work done by hunters.

Newbie accounts don't mean they are really newbie (and vice versa for legendaries). An account is just an account. The important thing is the man behind that account. I know there are newbie accounts (usually official project name), bought copper membership, and then created ANN or bounties. There are many reasons why they did it, probably because they want to manage the campaign by themselves and couldn't trust existing managers or don't want to pay their services. This kind of project is fine if you are lucky.

However, newbie accounts mean they don't have collateral (high ranked account is kind of like collateral), so it would be riskier to join this project. If you don't know how to determine whether the project is legit or not, better only join the project started by highly reputable members.

Sorry to say but i do not agree with you. They have not reputed managers. You don't have any idea which is actually reputed. if you take a look then you will understand actually what is reputed. Yahoo,Hampuz,bubbalex,Murat and many others reputed managers available in this forum. I think you should remove the text of reputed that you mentioned in your topics.

There have been many legends that have been lost in this crypto world, especially in Bitcoitalk, at that time rank was the attraction of someone to make believe but for the current era I think rank and generation will not make the project they hold will be successful. dont look by cover
beginner doesn't mean he can't be an ok manager

I have no problem with low ranks becoming bounty managers, not all low ranks are ignorant and unprofessional. If they have managed several projects and the success is believable and if they are really just starting, we can participate and make sacrifices to find out their quality or not join and choose to see the success of the first project they manage

very interesting discussion, we all start as beginners and feel how bitter and sweet as beginners. the most important thing is the persistence of a person to get a rating, learn from experience, even though it is often rejected by the manager. it could be that they really have experience outside the forum, because it does not rule out that they may understand better what we see only in terms of ranking.

Actually there are new people but they manage the project very well and their project is successful. However that happens very rarely, most of the bonus programs run by newbies end up with scams.
In my case, if considering between two bonus projects, I will choose the project that is managed by a reputable manager on the forum.

If two bounty projects are the same, people tend to choose a bonus program that is managed by a high ranking member.
However, I think that in order to decide to participate in a bounty campaign the first thing everyone should look at is the project. If it's a good and reputable project, it doesn't matter who it is run by anyone.

Were are not quite sure whether they are ban evading users or just a really newbie with a skill of handling bounty campaigns or maybe they were also a bounty hunter who opens service for bounty campaign. For me it doesn't matter who is the manager as long as their project is legitimate or they use escrow or there's really an official statement from the project that the manager is really chosen to handle their bounty although higher rank managers is an advantage for the project.

If it is a random newbie then I won't trust the project but if it is just managed by the team itself with a new account then it is not shady compared to random newbie but if those kind of campaigns want to ensure their legitimacy to the participants then they should escrow the rewards so people won't ask any questions about who is managing the campaign as long as the escrow is in the place to give out the rewards.

but right now it seems like a lot of managers are also using new accounts. or they use the same account as the project name. Some of the big-name managers already have bad names in the eyes of bounty hunters. I'm sure those who use new accounts are not completely new to this forum. they already have enough experience to be able to handle a campaign.

I remember some words from a reputated manager here and I just forgot the whole reply. I could quote it in here when I find it again.
All I remember is that it isn't entirely their job to find scam project or bounties. They could just stop the campaign if red flags rise.
This is to tell everyone that a reputated or even a veteran manager doesn't indicate a legitimate project or bounty, but this isn't meant to tell that you shouldn't trust the manager.
They aren't fully affiliated with the project they manage so they don't have the fullest idea of what's going on inside.

Currently, legendary managers or newbies cannot guarantee the projects they work on are legit...
although the average successful project comes from trusted legendary managers. the point is we have to research first about the project that we want to follow.

In most bounties, irrespective of who manages it, that is, whether newbie or high rank member, the manager tends to add a disclaimer stating that he/she is just managing the bounty and not member of the team thus showing that, even some of them can't guarantee the authenticity of the bounty; you can't blame them, they are still humans. So what I think is that, rank doesn't matter however what matters is how the bounty is being handled. For the authenticity of any bounty, it is left for the users or participants or hunters to make their enquiries and findings about the project thus deciding if it is to participate or not.
Also, there can still be situations where bounty payment will be delayed and the manager might turn a deaf ear irrespective of the rank. At the same time, there are bounties where payment will be delayed and the manager will fight for their hunters irrespective of the ranks as well, this type of managers are few. Therefore no matter what comes may, the rank of the manager do not matter but the way he/she handles the project and updates his participants on any information.

It does not matter what rank he has. Even if this is a beginner, then this should not immediately bother anyone at all. It is necessary to look at what the project organizers offer, if the idea of the project is relevant, if the developers post the results of their activities on github, then most likely the project is trustworthy even though if it was a newbie.

From my little time on the forum, series of bounty managers got negative trust from scam project promotion and for anyone to be promoting scam project on the forum is frowned upon. From my experience, those bounty managers with newbies accounts shouldn't be seen as scammers because some notable forum bounty managers do get into some projects with identity hidden to avoid be  tag when their project failed. Personally, I do ensure to make my own research into a project I tends to fall into in term of promotion. Some projects also request campaign managers to create account for their project thereby not having association or trace with notable forum bounty managers.

Your headline is entirely different than the content which is misleading, in the headline you are asking about newbie starting a project and in the main content you are talking about newbie users promoting the content and these are two completely different things. I will not trust a project team which is entirely anonymous because of certain reasons of bad experience i had in the past but anyone can promote a project if they have the patient to monitor everything and give the team the necessary result.

 

The forum rank of a member is not really an indication of how trustworthy they are, however a newbie manager without a doubt is suspicious, and when we take into account the lack of previous history of such an account you have nothing that can tell you if that person is to be trusted, however we have seen many managers with high ranks that have done a pretty bad job as well, as such it is important that when we see a newbie as a project manager we give them the benefit of the doubt and let them prove themselves on the forum while at the same time we hold them to the high standard that many other good project managers have been able to establish over the years.

I'd be suspicious of a newbie or a jr member starting a project because it's so easy to get to a member status on this forum that you really have to be lazy or completely new to the scene not to be a member.

That said, what would you rather see: a real fresh member who spent a few weeks on the forum or a bought legendary account?

Following the point of op, some notes are important to be taken into consideration:

- A bounty manager should have enough knowledge about forum rules and this is how rank is important. The two examples mentioned in op both have negative projects because of managing scammy campaigns.
- Some of ranked members willing to manage bounties use alt accounts but there is no way to prove this unles they announce it by themselves.
- Many projects use someone from the team to manage bounties here, not all of them are qualified for this and usually scam projects do this.
- A good project will always use the right guy to manage channels here. Either they hire it or they spend enough time here studing the forum before to to do the task by their own.
- A hunter should do his own researches before joining any bounty regardless who is the manager.

There is no official list about good managers, but we all know that few good managers always manage btc campaigns and not that easy to hire them bor an altcoin project. Check the profile of Yahoo or Hampuz for instence.

Your title is kind of misleading. For a moment I thought you were saying what if a newbies starts a real "project". If that was the case, I would give them a benefit of doubt. But, based on current situation, it would likely be a shit project. There are lots of so called newbie devs that are making random projects to scam people.
But, I guess you are talking about newbie users over here working on behalf of a project to promote the projects. In that case, if the project itself looks legit, then I would have no problem joining those (but  i dont do those. 99% of them are waste). But if its some random project handled by a random guy, then no.

Maybe the OP meant bounty manager or moderator of announcement thread. Sometimes the new account was open for the project, not necessarily that the moderator or manager is new. In the course of the duty, it will be obvious that the manager is not actually new to the forum, the process is a skill which must have been acquired. If the OP is actually new, one might need to be careful and research the track record outside the forum. ICOs with new individual in cryptocurrency is a scam.

I have made up my mind to always trust high ranked member projects although few turn out to be scam, that's from the team being dishonest actually. How newbie open a thread on Announcement board with no single image with two line description about a project is funny, but you can't judge them since they are still new to the forum.
I have seen and observed where a newbie with copper rank run a successful project in this same forum with no string or any form of scam, it depends on individual and the perception towards some project.
Do your own research atmost, it's not every time you need to be breastfed, TON the famous Telegram project was launched by a high rank member, it was legit but turn down by Sec. This are some of the unexpected things that can happen to any projects.

I agree that projects handled by high rank members are more convincing than projects handled by newbie rank. Because high rank
members must be more careful in choosing projects to handle, because they don't want to get red trust. Moreover, bounty managers
with enough green trusts will certainly promote profitable projects. Therefore I have more confidence in projects handled by bounty
managers who have high rank, than the projects handled by newbie rank.

Truly speaking, if I see newbie as bounty manager on this forum, get a little bit of doubt and also don't get much confidence in that project. Another side to it is, it may be one of the team members from the project itself.
So the best way to check the project thoroughly, its team, whitepaper, and other aspects which may give some good feelings to go ahead.

Most of the time, it is one or part of the team members of the project. If you can see, their username is most likely the name of the project itself or related to the project. The best way is to follow what other users do, they continue to investigate a certain project and see if the project is real or not.

It takes time to really identify if the project is heading to a scam or not. Most of those newbie managers are handling their own bounty program so as to save them money. But don't get me wrong, if you scrutinize those projects handled by Jamal, Bounty Detective and others, how many of them actually achieved success? So they really can't guarantee success of the project even if they are established BMs here. Because it depends on the project team themselves how they will act on their objectives.

Judging bounty campaign by the rank of the manager could be misleading and this remind of Gold stablecoin when they started their bounty most people dont want to join cause the bounty was posted by their personal account which is still newbie but I was among the first people to join the project campaign cause I developed my knowledge in knowing genuine project.
Bounty participants need to develop themselves not to rely on bounty manager findings about project and the last time I checked all the bounty manager listed are once a victim of scam project

They have also been tricked by some promises that have been made of these scammers. Not because they are higher rank and been running a lot of campaigns before they can't be fooled by these scam projects. No, because they are still human and they can still commit mistakes. But to give assessment comparing newbie and higher ranks, and base on their experience I'd preferably to trust high ranks than to a new one. But of course, they can still escape from those mistakes. Though these bounty managers already have a red tag but many members still trusting them it is because they know that it was not a thing to measure what kind of BM you are, mistakes can be corrected.

well, I also saw the bounty manager who initially only had a low rank but he could do his job well and manage the flow of the bounty and everything was neatly arranged so I don't think all bounty managers should be seen from rank but look at the results and from the neatness.

This really depends on many things
Before joining a bounty, I always pay attention to these two important aspects, first the potential of the project itself and the second is the manager's bounty. If the project is good, supported by many competent partners, the product is clear and functional, I will join even if the bounty manager in charge of it has a low forum ranking.
Meanwhile, a manager's bounty with a good reputation and good rank, good portfolio, fair, will definitely be an option when offering a new bounty. I think they will maintain their quality and reputation by not accepting projects carelessly.
In essence, we must also have a standard and basis of analysis to decide whether to join the bounty or not. And be ready with all the risks.

Rank is irrelevant to me in deciding which bounty to join. Many of the bounties handled by high rank members tend to end up in a mess and that of newbies are successfully. I do my analysis on the use cases, team experience and others. I have participated on bounties that were handled by high rank members which I am yet to get my reward after one and half year.

Ranks do not mean to guarantee that they are trusted and good bounty manager. Although well, it may influence our perspective on them.
You should know the cases by BM Jamalezaz in the past time and this is what I mean. reputation is influenced by their jobs and works, not only by ranks.
Btw, Bounty detective is also not in Hero or Legendary rank, but they have big communities and have organized or managed many bounties.

However, aside from that, I will prefer to join the bounty campaign managed by trusted, professional, and also experienced bounty managers. Moreover, if it is done by escrow, it will be more guaranteed. And paid in BTC or top coin, it will be more legit.

Honestly, it made me think many times but what's important in every project handled by these newbies still supported by trusted members. That's the most important thing to consider, because in my previous experience with high ranked members they still failed. So there's no exemption here, we just need to trust the platform and wait for the outcome whether it's success or failure.

actually the ranking in the forum does not determine whether a project is successful or not, I have participated in a bounty managed by a rank coper member but they were successful in developing their project, and their coin price is also quite good, so if you want to join the bounty don't look at the forum rank , but from the seriousness of the team and people inside the project

It doesn't matter what rank handles a project. Done projects opt to have their manager within their team to handle bounties rather than hiring someone from the forum. I've joined some bounties who were handled by their team or new managers and it went out well. Having a project handled by a trusted manager is a plus since they assure that they don't handle scam projects because it will affect their credibility, but it is unavoidable for some to accept a scam project to handle. So, even if it's handle by a trusted manager or new managers or even low ranked managers anything can happen.

We have to give them chance newbie managers who are just building their reputation will work harder than those established because they want to build and be more competitive than those who are well established, and besides these established managers were one time newbies in this industries.

Still remember with Jamal Aziz how does he manage many worth campaign last three years and I am glad with him, but now many not worth campaign although manager by trusted and experience person like bounty detective, now we have see how the result from bounty detective campaign like home token have lower price and become shit coin after distributing. Many bad campaign right now and only trusted with manager have good reputation for his campaign.

Maybe it's not a matter of rank but a matter of how experienced he is in holding projects and all projects we also need to do own research, lots of high ranks handled project but also failed. There are several reasons for a newbie to hold a project, including from an internal project person or someone who is completely new. Actually what is needed is not only rank but also how he can provide justice for bounty hunters. Lots of high ranks but finally took responsibility when the project developers tried to play with the bounty hunter. And one more, Escrow is very important no matter the rank

you know bubbalex? he is still a full member, but his track record as a bounty manager is excellent. yes, it is not a benchmark for how the project will run, but we do need a bounty manager with a high rank so that we can believe in his credibility as a manager. but that is not guarantee, you know sylon? His current rank is legendary, and I was involved in a bounty where he was his manager and his rank at that time was a senior member, but the project failed. I think the bounty manager's reputation is not about his rank, but how the project he handled was successful.

Bounty projects doesn't look by rank on whom who handles it, however it is more conventional and more reliable if you join with trusted well known managers in order for you to be paid and given rewards in the long run. But newbie managers also has the chance to handle projects. Some might be trusted some also cannot due to experience.

Bubbalex trusted manager campaign and have track record with worth bounty campaign although have trouble with distribution payment, I don't know why always his worth campaign and have higher value on exchange market like DIA but distribution for long term and always sending by several phase without give all 1000%. Does he take benefit for selling first and waiting until price back to lower price and give distribution for bounty campaign reward, I know how many time he manage worth campaign bounty and distribution waiting more than three or four months later after campaign ended, we must get reward 10% until 20% each month until three or five months later for completed reward payment.

As far as i know if we can't generalize any projects that runs by newbie as the scam project. Did you see definer? it's been running by newbie as an account who has made the announcement thread about that but this coin is legit.
It's only the rank and so many team from the projects were creating the new account for the purpose to create announcement in this forum.
That depends on how legit the project is.

We must DYOR.

Everyone has been a newbie in this forum, only time and contributions are made by certain people so that they can be ranked as Hero / Legendary, Sr Member or Full Member. The longer a person is here, the greater their contribution, the faster they will rank up in line with that person's reputation.

Trusting a project launched by a newbie is very risky, but if over time the newbie can prove that he is trusted, then the level of trust in the newbie will increase.

It takes a long process to build a trust in this forum.
The newbie in the forum is not a problem, but if the team and developers are newbies in real life, then it could be a problem.

I only see a few low-rank members who manage and handle the bounty project very well, but most low-rank members who manage the bounty project is unsuccessful and ended up a scam. That is why we only participate in high-rank members like a sr.member, hero, and legendary members in this forum because we can trust them, but we are still not sure if the project will be successful.

There are so many projects that have become scam project even that has already created by the legendary members. There are still so many developers didn't aware about the existing of this forum.

It's not a bad thing to see there was a new account that creates a new campaign or announcement thread here.

The rank didn't matter a lot in this case. You should change your perspetive about that. it's not all of projects created by newbies were scam.

Most of the new members who manage the projects have low skills which is why they fail to manage in fact it is not possible to say what is good or bad until the projects are successful but most newcomer projects are scams. There are also many project managers who are getting trust in which case the reliability of the projects is less but the projects of the members like the higher rank of the forum are better these get a lot of reliability when it comes to project management all of these projects reduce the risk a lot.

Doubting them is a good sign. You are trying to keep yourself safe from being scammed.
Newbie or Legendary, it doesn't matter. Anyone could be tempted to make a bad decision.
Higher rankings though are more careful since they don't want to waste their accounts.

Anyway, it's not always about who will manage it. Some of them are just there to keep the discipline with bounty hunters but they don't handle the coins.
Payments will still be done by the project owner or the team behind it.
What you should be looking at is how good the project is and verify their credibility.

i am thinking they have no rellation that active in bitcointalk forum that could help them to spread about project. and newbie rank will make investors doubt about project quality, usually they didnt explain project detailly to all member . its not about restarting or being hacked, but purely it represent project quality.

It depends upon the manager sir, whether he is newbie or not if he is good enough in managing the campaign, the campaign will result into good. I have also some of the bounty campaign where newbie is the manager and  it turns out to be good because maybe the team behind the project are also very active and got lots of investors for the project.

In this bounty world we have seen scam project launched by the legendary members and as well as the newbie members. In the same way, we have seen there are some project that successfully end their bounty with payments what they mentioned. That's why it is always impossible to find the legit bounty even though it is launched by the newbie members or legendary member.

There is some cases like that which a certain project owner created an account here to promote their own project but if you take a look into scam projects you will see that most of them have been run by new account. It is no wonder why most bounty participants has been doubtful in participating campaign that has been run with fresh account, most of them will choose those high ranks and also to those who have been known in this field.

In this industry we cannot really tell which a legendary ranked bounty manager can give us a legit bounties or a newbie ranked gives a scam or fake bounties, it is still with us bounty hunter to do more deep diggings of information to the bounty that we will be joining to avoid wasting all our time and effort.

those managers handles good projects before but later on thier hunters start to complain on them and so called quality members of this forum start giving them a poor feedback . thier trust now shows a different color  . you dont discriminate newbie managers but you still insist that your doubting on them  . some start up projects are not comfortable of trusting the future of thier projects to other random people and they dont have an existing account on this forum so they create and ended up having  a newbie account .

I think it's part of their team studying the Bitcointalk forums. an example of an edgeless project, an edgeless project handled with a low rank profile BTT. And the project was a success.

At the heart of the consideration of a project is the project's core team. if the core team is really the expert, why be afraid to join them.
this is my opinion

Most newbie Managers have low experience about bounties and the way they handle one can be annoying and not all of them are scammers, though I would truth legendary members over newbies or jr members, the higher ranking members will want to protect their accounts from red trust, still it's better to rely on your skill of doing research on projects than ranks.

Many disappointing bounties came from new members, I can made mention of few bounties that are from low rank bounty managers like EZ365 and till date they failed to keep their promises, they keep postponing bounty payments, the project is only half baked, another example is Bitwings, it's better to consider projects from high rank bounty managers over low rank bounty managers.

In my experience a newbie manager that is part of the project team is reliable. They just want to be hands on and not open to hire another campaign manager to manage their campaign. But if this newbie manager is not associated with the team and on the project, then I dont consider it as safe to participate.

On the other side, not all high rank members are trusted. Some of them are just using their rank to attract hunters to participate. Thats why its better to only join in the campaign of the reputable managers regardless of their rank.

I do not think I trust newbies more than veterans or less. I mean,,,everyone has to start as a newbie at some point right? And in fact,,, for veterans if they are starting a new project, what does it say about their old ones? Why did they not stick to their old ones if they were so good, right?

To be honest it doesn't matter who starts the project it's just that project must be unique, appealing, and have a good use case. You should never decide on a project on the basis of rank of the OP but always DYOR.

If someone has not a ranked account on forum it should not be a big issues. however having a ranked account isn't always a trust (since a scammer can just buying it).
when a project is handled by a newbie you should always check if he is really capable of what he is doing or promoting.
always ask for an escrow if he is going to manage funds. more important, he has some external records/portfolio of previous works?

If I see a bitcointalk project that created a newbie, I am suspicious. But if I came, for example, from a telegram where I know the whole team, and the project is led by a newbie, then I have no fears

When I was active in bounty campaign I have seen a lot of bounty manager that was part of the team that manages and campaign well, although they are part of the team and people do not have know their level of experiences we have no idea but these people are considered newbies, it's how they handle the campaign it's how they establish themselves, projects do nto want to have bad feedbacks and they treat their bounty hunters in a fair manner.

There are newbies who are handling some projects and ending up successful. There are newbies who are still handling but the result is negative.
Same with those high ranks or we should say "trusted campaign managers". There are some who are handling projects that are ending up successful and vice versa.

In short, the success of the project doesn't rely on the campaign manager who manages it but it is on the developers of the project themselves. It doesn't matter if it is being managed by a newbie or a high rank or a trusted one although the reputation and the rank has some effect too.

Most of the people who are joining to the campaign are wants to the high rank or reputable manager because they have experienced on how to know handle a campaign and they review a project. There is more project that handle by newbie and it is successful and I would like to say don't look to the rank just focus on the project they handle if it's going to be successful or not.

Yes, the rank of the BM isn't the only thing to be considered while deciding whether to enroll in a bounty or not but a newbie ranked BM is more of a red flag than the higher ranked users. Newbies don't have much to lose if they scam hunters and then get tagged, they simply move on and create another account. However, sometimes the newbie accounts we see here may have been running bounties on other crypto fora and may have acquired the prerequisite knowledge and as such know what it takes to run bounties. That they're newbies here doesn't mean they can't run bounties successfully. For me, I can enroll in a bounty run by a newbie account registered in a project's name. That way, I think hunters have the feel of getting their rewards at the end of bounty as decent projects will always want to stay out of controversies.

indeed we shouldn't be a priori to someone, but in a situation like this we need a Bounty Manager who has a good reputation and is capable. because they clearly experience not to accept a project without studying with the aim of not wanting to disappoint their followers who have always continued to join in every project. but we do not close our eyes also that there is a new account which is also good at this, but a situation that makes people less willing to take too much risk because of the many scams.

the project manager ranks and who the people behind are very influential in pick a project especially if the project manager's track record is trusted.
since i had a bad experience on a project managed by a newbies and I won't take any risk,
unless the newbies are recommended by someone influential or trusted maybe it will be enough to make me interested.

me too . ill choose a manager with a nice level , appearance of a forum profile brings an impact to me but if there is no vacant campaign available ,

 i do also join campaigns no matter if what rank the manager manages it because i have no choice and i dont want to waste time  . if they pay me ill be grateful if not then fine . bounty campaigns are uncontrollable now on the forum and the scenario of campaigns getting full is now small compare to the time when i was just starting here on the forum .

It is true if there is an opinion that the success of projects does not depend on the bounty manager, but depending on the team developers
who designed the promotion strategy. The better the promotion is done, will make the project's success percentage high. But if the projects
are managed by bounty managers who have high ranks and are proven to be reliable, with quite a lot of green trusts, it will make the projects
look perfect. So I prefer projects handled by bounty managers with high rank members, rather than being handled by newbies who don't have
a clear track record.

Majority of them is not trustworthy though it depends on the projects presentation and quality,if the said projects is really back up by big company or sister company maybe then i can trust them but it is rarely to happen.

but who will start their project?what if the team has just found out this forum so they need to use a newbie account ,because buying and selling of account is also discourage here.
but for me?i need no new project because i am already contented in what market has now.

never but you could have fun trusting them

Obviously a project coming from an experienced or old account will add to the investor confidence but sometimes projects prefer to announce the project from a new project branded account , so it is their choice.

I think it actually depends. there are some other factors you need to consider, like whether the account is a manager or a representative from the project. It is very valid to not fully trust some new managers but that doesn't mean the ones with higher ranks should be easily trusted.

On the other hand, there are some new accounts that are representative of the project, that is the project created them solely for the management of the bounty campaign. some of them can be trusted, but not all.

The bottom line is, you cannot take away research from the process of finding a good bounty.

the Manager rank does not always determine which projects will be successful.
several times I have followed a bounty manager who is rated Jr. and the results are good.

we just need to get to know their project more and do some research if the project is interesting before you decide to join. so don't judge everything negatively.

Jr ranks isn't a symbol of untrust, remember that everyone has a beginning, every members on this forums are once a beginner, don't judge someone because of their profile ranks, promoting a bounty project is all about the concepts of the projects itself and the team not the person introducing the project to crypto promoters.

Yes, it always depends. Sometimes even higher ranks who handled a bounty project don't have good results at the end, like the ones I joined before, I was thought because of the higher rank of the manager on the said project that is why I'm expecting everything to run smoothly, but sad to say it turned out nothing.

Not really because newbie that are starting projects to me could not be trusted compared to high rank users like those reputable bounty managers. Usual bounty managers are legendary in rank and I do not see a newbie in rank making a name as a trusted bounty manager. However, there are successful projects being run by the newbie probably they had manage a good project.

Yet, whoever brings the projects should not be an issue. The real thing is that you know what project you will going to trust or not. In my own opinion I do not like to invest on crowdfunding projects for if I wanted to invest in cryptocurrency then I can go directly to bitcoin and probably other altcoins as well.

As of now i think it is hard to trust newbies that starting projects specially starting bounties as well because in so many times i experienced being a victim.

though i Gave them a benefits of the doubt to start and prove me wrong,make the project success then my doubt will gone but one thing for sure that i will never put a single penny in those projects.

Experience can't be judged by account rank. Cause there are lots of people who are in this forum since long time but didn't try to push their account ranks or just they were busy with their own sections work and not showed so much activity in the forum. And also there are lots of people who lost their old account due to hack or forgetting of account credentials. So, that they decides to start from the begining.

Currently there are indeed many newbie bounty managers, but maybe they don't use their original accounts for launching bounties that are not reliable enough so it's badly possible that their main account could be affected by negative trust. to increase rank on the forum

That is really a difficult question to answer because many new projects are good, but many are also bad projects if not scams. If you participated to the bounties that happened between 2016 to 2017 then you will be able to see that so many of them are not really scams but rather failed projects and it is not really the blame of anybody but the project itself. I pity the bounty managers before who simply manage the bounties and then turns out that they do some illegal activities which affected the bounty managers rating. So if you want to be a manager then you need to be very careful in check out the projects and see if they have some plans in an event of a project failure.

When joining bounty I am also influenced by bounty managers having Hero or legendary rank. My reasoning is that these members will not risks their hard earned rank on scam projects. But sometimes I also consider joining bounty campaigns managed by low ranked members but the project being managed has good potential and realistic platform. so far I was rewarded joining both

I trust  less in newbie manager.
Most time I avoid newbie manager. I don't join their project many time.

Newbie or not, depends on the project decisions. some of the projects doesn't know about the forum rank system, and then suddenly they got some offers from newbie (?) members. or in other way, they also can start their marketing themselves.

I met some really good managers, whose forum rank wasn`t high and they did they work well, but in most cases rank really have an influence and more senior and experienced in crypto and on the forum managers have more chances to arrange really good campaign

Exactly i always try to take the bounty of professional managers as more important because they have enough skills about the crypto market and they can pick good projects. However, it is often seen that to manage a good bounty from many newbie accounts, I am not surprised about the rank of the account there because he had the skills so he has been able to manage the bounty of a good project.

I do not think there is any problem when a newbie starts projects; it does not matter what your rank on the bitcointalk forum is, what matters about a new project is the chances of success the project has. What are the discussed products? are the team members qualified? is the project ideology deserving and align with the blockchain way ? This matters more than the project being announced by a newbie or a senior member forum rank. The rank has nothing to do with good projects

yes that's true, newbie or not, it's the same thing, because if a new project wants to launch a bounty or promote his project,
then a newbie is an option or a cooper member, of course I can still trust with a record that the project is good in any way

Ranked members who handle projects are more reliable because they have already the reputation and they will never risk their earned ranked on fake or scam projects. But sometimes they can't avoid also to handle such a scam project although it wasn't intentional. And as per the newbie, there are also good ones. It always depends on the participants still to determine whether the project is a scam or legit not just rely on who's handling the project.

Indeed, from the two campaign managers, Jamalezaz and Detective, there is no doubt that in managing the bounty campaign, sometimes the participants compete to participate in the campaign they manage, therefore many projects trust them to be campaign managers who are consistent in their duties, but There were several problems in the Tokenpay campaign at that time, where the project was held by Jamalezaz, and all the participants accused Jamalezaz of taking all participant funds, whether the news was true or not, so far all participants did not get anything from the Tokenpay project, and from that's where Jamalezaz has disappeared until now, even the disappearance of Jamalezaz, many fraudulent projects have sprung up, either on purpose or have been planned by people who want to bring him down, actually I don't really care about that, because there are still many quality campaign managers even until now. this they still manage it, I hope there are lots of quality campaign managers appearing like in 2017 ..

Hello) I also hope that many such campaigns will appear, since I myself am a beginner in cryptocurrencies)

Generally speaking,i prefer to trust high rank,it seems that a topic starts by high rank reliable than by newbies.But undeniable,not all project start by high rank are good,and even some of them are scam.Anyway,rank is only a factor that a project i trust or not,not the all.It is not all low rank are unprofessional,we need to circumstances alter cases.

for now not, especially if they don't use cooper members, if there are newbies who are promoting a project, but not using cooper members I always think they will end up scamming and participants not getting paid

What's all about you and your cliche "reputed" we all have managers we have appreciated at one point in time, I mentioned those one  "among many other" I have participated in bubbalex's  and yahoo's project and they are very fine, consider their ranks , then you will understand what I was asking. Are those ones I mentioned not on this forum?

yes, the project will be a scam project or not, is depends with their team
so, be selective if we want to join any bounty campaign or drop our money to a new cryptocurrency project

There are many bounty managers who have good personalities and in my opinion it is not only these two managers who have good ratings, but you can also consider some of the best managers such as Hhampuz, DarkStar_, irfan_pak10 are also top priorities in a campaign.

Ranking isn't everything, here even a newbie will continue to earn his reputation over time. If you are aware of the case of buying and selling accounts, I think it is one where rank is no longer the benchmark here to be trusted, because even members like Member, Full Member can be better than the rank above. The problem about the manager in the bounty project even though he is a newbie, but if he comes from a solid project and team, I think it will be fine in the end too. Although indeed, when a developer employs a trusted manager here, of course it will be an added value for an assessment.

There are two ways to this. There are quite a few projects handled by highly ranked personnels, abd the project ebded up flopping and as well quite a few number of Projects handled by newbies that ended up doing well. To me, i believe that doing your own research about a project before hand is vital

By the way, Yes, if the bounty manager's account has the prefix "cooper member", then this inspires more confidence. It is clear that the money for receiving it is not large, about 25 dollars, but still…

We were once newbie till when we all grow to this moment. Anybody can be a good bounty campaign manager because sometimes the project announcing the manager. I have worked with campaign managers with the rank of newbie and got paid without any negative move, while there are higher ranking campaign manager with series of scam accusations against their reputation. Currently, I don't select bounty campaign manager because of the experience I got from this industry. I would prefer to make my own investigation into the project before joining their promotion.

Management Bounty with newbie rank ??
I don't think it's important in terms of ranking. because there are several legitimate projects managing bounties that do not use BM (bounty management) services and of course the rank of newbie with copper member. So far, I am reviewing the project not from who the manager is, but doing research on the project, whether it is solid and has a chance of success or not. But by the way, I've believed in bubbalex, and I think he's the best at bounty management.

Well, I guess you are just lucky to have a newbie manager that didn't fail you. Because if you will analyze, that's the best rank position for scamming since nothing will lose if ever proven guilty and get abred tag. Who cares about about a newbie account with red tag? None because it's always easy to create one. Unlike on the side of Hero or Legendary members, they got a reputation need to be protected all the time. If ever they scammed you because of their greed then at least you can fight back. You can make his account useless in a glimpse and all of the years he stayed here will be erased :D.

But remember, CMs are just one of the factors to consider when choosing a campaign. So know the project itself as well.

Most of the projects promoted by a newbie account will be from the project team. They try to promote on their own, and this doesn't make any serious issue. Once the promotion campaign is over the allocated funds were sent to all the participants. Managers play a big role finding the better project, because most reputed ones will analyse well and accept it. A small mistake or delay in distribution of bounty could leave some negative reputation to the manager.

i never judge some projects from their bounty managers. a good bounty managers won't guarantee you with a good projects too. they are just hired by the team projects. so, they have trust and reputation that can interest some people to join. we don't know they'll become a legit or scam projects in the end. also we found some newbies managers, we usually found it in some projects that don't want to hire some manager. the team itself will handle the projects.

We always look up for those bounty managers who have high experiences in handling sucessful bounty projects, but this should not be a bases in finding a good project. It always depends on the over all impact of the project. Even if a bounty manager is still a newbie, it won't matter as long as he is managing a potential and legit project.

Nah... that's true and i do agree with it. I have even asked some new legit projects to create their own announcement thread at this forum and they said that they didn't aware if there's a forum like BTT.

They created a new account to make their own announcement thread or sometimes there's a member from BTT that offered the team to create their own announcement thread.
So far, the new project that wanna try to manage their own campaign will create a new account.

agree with you, ranking is not everything. even newbie bounty managers there are also some who give good pay even though it's very rarely found.

for now, it is better to do more research on a campaign project before joining as it is very difficult to tell which one is going to cheat or pay for.

I can't trust newbies that start with the project team. If teams get control of everything, there will always be some problems. Some newbies account can be Trust but not much because of bountydetective manager history. All bounty managers have a bad reputation without a few bounty managers like Hhampuz, yahoo62278 and bubbalex. I do more research from the Newbies users because of low experience.

How much money you earn on the bounty campaign depends primarily on the success of the project. It depends on how much its tokens will rise in price and how dynamically the project will develop.
That is why when choosing a bounty campaign, I choose first of all the project, and not the bounty Manager. I have seen many situations when projects with bounty campaigns run by legendary bounty managers turned out to be scammed and vice versa.

I totally agree with you, big bro.  ;)
We cannot judge they are real newbies based on their accounts in this forum. Logically, if they are newbies, they won't think to make a crypto project. Something that can trigger them to have a project should be an idea to have another innovation in the crypto business. This shouldn't come from real newbies. I don't think it is very necessary to know whether they are newbies or not. The most crucial thing is to see how they run the projects and if their information data is correct. We must do analysis in this matter to avoid participating in a bad project or even a scam one.

That's correct also because new members and other new in forum are the most and lot of good and learner not all. Because let say they are late that they knew for kind of work. Somehow no one knows and maybe it depends on people also.

In the first principle, someone will want to join, will see who BM is already known and does have a good reputation, and it is clear that the account is owned, whether the admission is of good quality because in plain view the first thing we will do is that thing.

it doesn't exist with a new account it can also be a good BM of course there is but what everyone needs is the initial capacity that we see first, who is the BM !!!

At this time it is indeed in a difficult situation because quality BM can no longer be seen and there are already many BM that are milling around erratically, because many projects have become frauds, when will it end, no one can confirm but there should be restrictions from the Mod to be able to. does not continue to grow scam and cooperation between those who want the bounty to be good and quality BM will come back again.

there are also many projects that are held by beginner accounts and everything is going well also paying very fairly, we can see that maybe their team wants to hold funds and choose participants well, sometimes not those who have a good RANK, because they are bounty managers can be working only for money and not sure they are honest they can even cheat bounty funds, but I don't want to go into more detail about that, so everything is fine as long as it is confirmed by each of their projects, a little confused also with thread titles and questions, if the thread is made by a beginner it is normal

Managers with an average newbie rank come from the project team, as long as the project is real in my opinion it will not be a problem because we will still get payment commensurate with the work we do, but we are also careful because many managers from the project team will reduce allocations the bounty doesn't even pay off

Its easier for scammers to create new accounts and deceive investors or scam them but it's will be a bit hard for old accounts from Sr members to legendary members to scam or promote any projects because once the account get red trust it's over, this is why high ranking members need to be very careful with any projects they promotes.

We cannot judge a person only by rank in this forum. A newbie can become a bounty manager maybe because he has the ability to do that, outside of this forum he may be a professional. You don't know who the person behind the account is.

Well founded projects will make sure that they have enough budget for marketing and one of it is to hire a good bounty manager or manage it by their own but as a genuine project they will  not hesitate to buy a copper membership for sure therefore if I were to give an opinion, 99% of projects that were being launch by newbies are either scam or shit project.

In short they cannot be trusted if I were to judge them. Marketing is the most important part of the project therefore most of the genuine projects will make sure that it can be launch properly in order to create a good impression to the investors or supporters and launching a project via a newbie account is not an option for them.

I agree on you we have seen sop many high rank members getting ruin for running scam projects and not doing proper research, rank has no impact and when you talk of trust you are only as good as your last campaign a bounty manager can be ruin with one campaign even if he is high rank, and there are low rank members who managed to run a good project.

there are 2 reasons why people want to join a project.
1. because the project is good and has the potential to develop in the future
2. because it was delivered by a legendary person.
indeed for now I believe more in the person who brought (the manager) project.
if someone is known to have a trustworthy nature, then any project they carry can attract investors and bounty hunter. and this is good for the project.

I think as long as the project itself is sustainable, is realistic and the project initiators have some experience with other projects beforehand then why not. If they were people who worked before on past projects and decided to create their own, why not, they have the experience for it atleast.

A project that we're handled by high ranking members is more credible and reliable. It is because they were hard-earned those ranks. With high ranks, it will assure that they well experienced already and it is also an assurance that they study depth the project before they accept it. But we can't remove the fact there are also newbies who are handling legit projects now, so I guess it will depend on the participants whether to trust newbies that start a project.

Not all newbie account owners are newbie, it may be that the account belongs to a legendary. He may have created another account named after the project. So it is baseless to verify whether it is trusted or not considering the age of the account. The most important thing is how trustworthy the person using this account is. Many legendary accounts have been involved in big scams in the past, so it's not right to check credibility just by looking at rank.


They are not reputed managers. You gave the wrong example here. Jamalezaz in particular is involved in many old scams. You will find many reports against him on Bitcointalk.

Based on some rules change the right of projects team, after the finish bounty campaign teams change the terms and conditions of projects.   Team doesn't need to agree to escrow with someone. "GeomaDao" was a bounty from the Julerz12 manager. Escrow payment is always faster than without escrow of even a high rank manager. I don't ignore any campaigns from any newbies accounts.

Though newbies can scammed us easily but in some cases we can trust newbies if the project is very good. Sometimes reputated members or Good managers are also made mistakes choosing projects .So i think trust is depend on the project.

When I start to get acquainted with a new project as an opportunity to join ICO bounty campaigns, I immediately look at the account rank of the bounty campaign manager. A higher rank always inspires more trust. After all, if he is suspected of deception or dishonesty, forum participants may distrust him, and then his account with the red color of distrust will no longer be able to participate in ICO signature campaigns. Beginners have nothing to lose in this regard. They can easily register a new account.

We should not rely on the rank of bitcointalk account only, but consider other things as well.
We don't know when the hero/legendary member is a hacked account or not, so it won't give us the guarantee of good project.
Sometimes new project decide to announce with their own account, usually newbie rank account because they just create the account.

Forum ranks is not the most importand thing to look at when choosing project to participate in, not all high ranked members are reliable either. Basically it's ok to not full trusted some new manager but it also not mean you can just trust higher member though. Sometimes there also new account that created to become an represantive of the project. Its always our due diligence as bounty hunters to choose what campaigns we like to be part of. The best thing you can do to this matter is to have enough time checking all documents of the project had, from whitepaper to a roadmap, and then the last part is the team behind the project.

Relying on the rank is only one criterion to consider, it isn't very important but has certain influence. Some projects are managed by newbie , they are also very successful, but most of them fail or scam. Therefore, big projects still need the hero/legendary members to manage them, only increasing trust, we still need to research carefully before investing.

Yes, analyzing people in this forum based on rankings can be a consideration after we know and analyze the details of the related project data as well. Best_Change, when it first arrived here, was full of disbelief with its Newbie account. But now, Best_change is becoming a popular project and many people are interested in Best_change.
In addition, Best_change is now an incentive provider for quality members in this forum.
The lesson that we can take is, we must first understand and analyze the project regarding existing data.

Depends on the project really and I call them a new team, I hate calling someone newbie just because they are into the market for first time. I think if the new team is just aiming for prices to be on the moon without any vision on building the product then really I immediately leave the project. I rather focus on the product the new team is building because if they have a good vision and they really build a solid product then success follows itself while if the team members are just shilling too much and hyping people in telegram about the token price to rocket up, it is a bad sign.

I also try and talk to a few team members on telegram before investing and see if they are down to earth and focused or just full of attitude with no ability to take feedback and convert into feed forward. You get an idea of the team once you talk to a few admins in the group, those admins who feel like they don't need to talk to common people and are too superior/egoistic, usually such projects fall down quite quickly.

What must be realized is that managing a project is not easy and very risky and there is nothing wrong with doubting a project that is managed by a beginner.
must analyze carefully before engaging and try to ask questions about the project to be managed because that is where the answers will be assessed and the responses, and ratings are not a guarantee in managing the project because everything must be based on adequate knowledge and so on.

Yes, if they have the experience of managing a project very well they are good to carry on. Some of the project is not all about ranking that will make you do well because there are still project you will see you think it is newbie that run such project not knowing is some of the higher rank.
I think if they have the experience to manage the project very well they are good to carry out the position.

I agree with you, it's not a problem for newcomers to this forum to have their own project, but they need to work with experienced members on this forum. If there is no trustworthy member involved from this forum, I think the prospects are not that great and a lot of people will skip out on this forum. Personally, I give a lot of value on this forum. A project manager with many years of track record on this forum can make or break a new project.

Topic name does not fully match its content.

I'm ok if a newbie starts a project. Generally, we are all newbies when we start something new and there is nothing bad about it. Furthermore, all great projects were started and founded by young and inexperienced people.

Speaking about bounties and a newbie account managing it, I would skip it. But, if this newbie has a same forum nickname as project name, runs ANN topic and after research the projects looks that something promising can come out from it, I would join this campaign. But, It would be better if ANN topic was created before projects decides to run a campaign.

Also, I have noticed, that projects that runs bounty, barely creates ANN topic. That is confusing and suspicious.

with uses of ideal competence on possession the project might be of one as fine as student works on manage with the initial terms of entrance into business with the public merchantile,
to gains of returns of benefit as offering uses with unit of product and service on release with the marketing scheme and business relation.

not all new project teams who want to advertise here on the forum, do ads campaigns want to spend a lot to hire trusted bounty campaign managers and often delegate this task to a member of their staff who creates a new account (newbie ), i personally trust these accounts especially if they buy copper membership right away

In general, it does not matter which manager is leading the project, the main thing is that the project is worthy and does not merge. To prevent this from happening, you need to figure it out yourself and not rely only on the manager. Previously, top managers also had a huge number of projects that never entered the market and will never come out.

I don't think high rank members should have the monopoly in handling the bounty campaign, as long as these newbies know how to look on the project how to communicate how to set up spreadsheet and how to trace and catch cheaters and make their campaign clean they also deserve the trust of the community.

Well in my case I mostly joining and participating bounties whose are being managed by bounty manager that has a rank of a member up to higher one like bounty detective and as higher rank as sandra evans or even yahoo.

Sure, I noticed many good and bad bonus projects. Bounty managers get paid to run a project. They wouldn't risk their legendary accounts to manage such a project. Of course, they do for money but need to ensure safety.
I see on this forum that it is full of high ranking members but the quality of their posts is poor. It is important to consider the quality of a project before joining and the response of reputable people in the forum to decide whether to join or not.

of course, there is nothing wrong with giving the opportunity to a nwebie account because so far it has been difficult to rank up in this forum so that currently many new developers have entered but with a small rank, but the admin in this forum provides a solution by creating a cooper member so they can information by adding photos as well so that the information provided will be clearer.

Yes, it's better we just join the Bounty which handled by a trusted manager, but high rank did not guarantee that it was a good bounty, Sometimes Developers are willing to buy a Hero or Legendary account account to convince us.

Honestly, the first thing I see from a bounty campaign is who the manager is, because I believe experienced bounty managers will not arbitrarily choose or accept managing bounty campaigns. Although sometimes if I believe the project is good then it doesn't matter if the bounty manager is a newbie.

Rank doesn't matters to me when it comes to handling a bounty project. I think that rhe higher ranks who handles bounty projects has the experience and maybe expert thank newbie ones however it ia not the basis for a successful projects that are handled by managers. Sometimes bounties handled by newbies also gives a good product outcome of bounty experience. Also some higher ranks may not be successful in the long run.

I do not think a bounty detective is a higher rank BM. Some project owners don't want to spend any money so they create an account and promote their project. Sometimes they upgrade their account to copper rank. I don't trust them at all. Bounty managers like bubblex, ulum, Fatema are some people whom I trust and they have already managed some good projects.

I don't matter how old or new those people are and how they rank in their bounty campaign, what I care about is the ability to monetize them. I will examine the project, see what the leadership, the source code and the social media have to say about them. Another important point is the reward for the hunters. When I consider them good enough I will step in.
Bounty campaign participants should determine the risk of starting a program.

maybe they don't need the services of the legend. they are confident  in taking control as project managers by joining the forum as a newcomer with a name that matches the name of the project to be run

I rarely see novice accounts managing bounty projects to great success in the market, especially with legitimate payouts for participants. but on the one hand I also don't always trust or depend solely on account status. before I joined the bounty project, then I looked at the project itself and did not depend on the ranking. but i know that project manager with high member status has more experience than new account.

It is not a matter of the rank of the bounty manager that counts but the quality of the projects, everyone need to start from newbie and if manager has been involved in successive successful projects I will join their campaign, there are some high ranked project managers here that I can't join their campaign because of the high failure rate of the project they are involved with.

Not because a certain project was handled by a high ranking member means that it is a good project,

There are times that even a project was handled by a newbie, the outcome is a success. It always depend on the project itself if it is promising enough to gather investors/supporters that will help the project to achieve success.

What's wrong if a newbie starts a project?
And even, we guys suggest newbies to buy a copper membership to use images and display them, so what's wrong if they try to promote their project themselves? If it's a BTC based bounty, then escrow is a must, otherwise if it's a token bounty, then I believe that it's our responsibility to use our brain and dig deeper to analyze the project and then decide if we want to take part or not.

No ooooooo, because i participated in one recently the project is purely scammed project, and ever since the project end its like that, no update as regards to the project they delete their telegram groups, people only give them red trust. and nothing more. so i dont believe in newbie project.

There is a higher chance that the bounty project is legit if the one who is handling the bounty is a known member or a high rank member. Bounty hunters will also benefit if they joined a bounty that is manage by trusted managers.

Doesn't matter, anybody can start a bounty program, i don't believe Bm must be ranked hero or legendary before starting or managing a bounty program, what matter most is to be sure the so called project is a good one

On the past years of joining bounty campaigns i never had any doubts to a bounty projects that im choose to engaged if ever i had already checked its background and the project itself. Well a project manager handler was a plus factor if he/she were a high rank this may add a good credibility to the bounty projects. But i didn't underestimate the quality of managing of a newbies well i bet that those newbie handlers were already educated themselves first before hopped in to the bounty projects.

We cannot see the quality of the bounty manager from the account rankings, many accounts with high rankings do not understand how to become a bounty manager,
and some cases that became bounty managers were the official team that had just registered on the forum,
then would you say that the bounty manager has no experience! :) so whatever the reason one cannot conclude just by looking at the forum rankings.

No problem with me newbies handling the project, if they failed on one project that could be their last, so they make it a point to make their project clean, because they are building their reputation, I am much more worried on the project, because it's not the manager that will scam you but the project, they are the one paying you and create value to the token.

Good points. Same thoughts here, actually, especially with number 1. We can't really just base on the rank alone. A manager may be a newbie but just in rank in this forum. He/she might have obtained experience outside this community and is not a total newbie.

Rank is not everything so it's still better to have a bit of research first before joining a project.

What matter to me is not the rank of who is running the campaign but the use cases of the project and the team behind it.

Maybe they are the part of the team, they can handling new project because they have experience and knowledge about this forum and the rules.
I don't care about the rank of bounty managers, because not every bounty managers manage real bounty. Because they have also managed  1 or 2 projects that do not pay bounty hunters.

indeed because in this forum it is very difficult to increase rankings so many new people use newbie accounts but I am sure they already have friends who have been here for a long time so they work with him to organize bounty campaigns or other campaigns.

If they know what they are doing and they know how to run a bounty campaign smoothly, I don't see any reason why they should and cannot run a campaign, I have seen independent bounty manager running a campaign here, and I have seen bounty managers that are part of the team that also run a smooth campaign here, the big concern is the project if it is legit and not the bounty manager.

yes that's absolutely true, even though he is a newbie but the project has a team of experts, will you also miss it? I think the assessment of a bounty does not refer to the Bitcointalk account rank but rather how the project and the project team.

Not really because they are not doing well and most of it are just use to scam. We know that if newbie handle the project if anything that can happen to the account which is newbie will do good. One can create another account and that is the good thing of being newbie bringing project for nothing to lose in their account especially if they will get red trust. Nothing to worrry about and newbie are confident in bringing the project to the forum.

Anyone can create a newbie account in seconds and he can promote his scam project because he does not care if he gets negative trusts because his account rank is small and another account can be created with the same rank, frankly I do not care about the rank of the bounty manager but I care about the project that is promoted and the account trusts, but if the account rank is high, this will increase my confidence that I will be with an experienced manager who can determine the project he is promoting.

If a project's team is reliable, there's no matter what rank a bounty manager has. And vice versa, if a project is a scam, its bounty manager could be satoshi nakamoto and nobody will get paid)

I personally try to avoid them, if they are legit and they really want to run a good bounty they can hire a higher rank bounty manager, A lot of newbies bounty programs turned out to be a scam and they could run away without any punishment, maybe some are legit too but I would not join them .

If a project is a scam, bounty manager's status means nothing. All of them mention they are not responsible for the payouts in bounty threads, so who cares what their status is)

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If the project is a good project or is supported by an officially registered company, then I don't mind if the bounty manager is a newbie account. But even so, I prefer to join the bounty campaign managed by a trusted bounty manager.

From starting of merit system forum rank is now very very important for all forum users. So nobody wants to lost forum high rank ID with red trust. Sometimes for bad campaigns campaign managers are fall in red trust by crazy hunters but actually they are not responsible for SCAM project. They only manage the project. I think for that reason many high ranked ID  members now using new newbies id+copper Member to manage bounty, nothing else.

thanks

Quite confused, now last year every time I joined the bounty, I would definitely see the start project rank, but sometimes rank can't guarantee
whether the project is really good or not.
Moreover, now there is a merit system so there is a possibility, for example, someone made a project but the rank is still a newbie,
just have to see if the project uses its own team and buys a copper member label to create a campaign or ann or hire bounty management services
can be assessed from there. but yeah, for now it's hard to guess whether you believe it or not you can see in the middle of the project in which direction

Low rank bounty managers will bring most disappointing results after bounty ends than high ranking bounty managers, the experience and exposure is a big difference and even few bounties are managed by team members themselves, these type of bounties will bring sad endings, I prefer projects from high ranking members

With anything there is need for promotion. Without promotion, success in the cryptospace is really a hard task. Go through the project and if you find this to be worthy, then go for it. An experienced manager will add value to the project and easily attracts more participant towards the project for investment.

We can't under estimate a newbie. They are far excellent in their daily activities and knowing the news associated with cryptocurrencies. In recent days more number Newbies have reached our forum, knowledge about Cryptocurrencies have increased a lot. Some newbies have turned to be perfect person on the forum.

It is not always that way. I've seen low-ranking bounty managers that have successful projects i.e kickico bounty hunter. It's also not guaranteed that the project will succeed if a high ranking member handles the bounty campaign.

There could be many reasons why they use newbie account,

Two of them are
1. They may not want to expose themselves if anything wrong happens.
2. They may have doubts about the project.

If they use their real account they will be tagged red for promoting a scam/fake project.

So, of course i don't trust newbie that starts projects.

of course the bounty manager only does its job to organize the running of the campaign while for payment it is the matter of the development team so if you don't want to be disappointed because you don't get paid for the campaign you are participating in then you have to choose a bounty campaign that has escrowed with the developer so that The allocations given to the bounty campaign have been properly secured and will be given smoothly to campaign participants after completion.

Indeed, the first thing I pay attention to if I want to take part in the project is the bounty manager, so I can choose projects more quickly by seeing who the bounty manager is and don't miss seeing the criteria for the project I am following

When I join a new bounty project the first thing I checked is the rank of the bounty manager and his trust rating. If it's a newbie account or a copper member then I check their website telegram and other social media platforms. I also try to check what other high ranking member is saying about that project and how many people are participating in that campaign. I trust BM from members and to legendary and I think they can be trusted.

I'd be more careful around projects from new bitcointalk accounts because most times they won't end up paying or the project easily turn scam, all in all its better to use your research skills to get the best out of any new projects and if you are satisfied enough you can promote

This is the reason today's accounts are being purchased. product owners think that they should be buying a Sr or Legendary account as no one will trust the newbies.

personally, I don't have a problem if a Newbie starts the Announcement thread, I more often look at the idea and the pitch than the account status over the forum.

It depends on the specific project and conditions. If a newcomer launches an ann thread and buys a copper member status, it indicates that there is someone behind it who knows the forum well, or someone told them, and the account is created to support this particular thread. Many projects do this and it is normal.

If everything is the same with a bounty thread, it is a very large red flag that should alert you. Firstly, it increases the chances that the team itself conducts the bounty and they may be at least inexperienced, and secondly, it increases the chance that it is a scam and the one who conducts the bounty wants to remain completely anonymous so as not to bear any responsibility.

Of course you may be scammed by the manager too and everything is very unstable in crypto, but if known manager runs bounty - you at least know whom to contact in case of problems with bounty.

We cannot base trust on maybe the manager is newbie or not. There are projects that are handled by the dev team that starts as newbie even though bitcointalk has make it possible for people in that category to obtain a copper member. Having been a bounty participant for many years, I can categorically tell you can not totally trust anyone either newbie or legendary member unless you have build a long time relationship together

Why not, of course, I sometimes rely on bounty managers, whom I have known for a long time because I know that they sometimes have excellent bounties, but when newbies create bounty themes, I also join them, because they also have very interesting bounties from good projects, you just need to study each bounty company in which you want to participate.

I have my doubts but I see some of them using the name of the project and by this it means that they are representatives of the company. It is quite doubted because they have nothing to lose from it, even if they've done scamming or fraud actions.

actually it doesn't really matter, but to make sure it is more certain, high rank managers will be more trusted
There have been a lot of newbie or low rank managers lately, and their projects have also been successful, so it can't be compared to rank.

for me Newbie or jr member it is not a problem to start a project,
but many good projects create an account on a new bitcointalk with a Cooper Member rank,
I know it pays, but it can create Trust to the community and participants here.

That is the reason to me position is matters. However, I'm not putting newbie, jr rank member into my ignore list. I will be happy with any position to work if project turn into positive, have possibility to affect on our every day life. Since there's lots of example of successful project handled by newbies this also make sense. 

Guys do not forget that if the project team decides to act dishonestly and refuses to pay bounty hunters tokens for their work then the Manager will not be able to do anything. He is usually in +/- same conditions as we are. And nothing will depend on his rank.

Basically, I don't trust it, a newbie should not start the project, they don't have much experience for that. But sometimes I trust it if the project is legit because I see some project using a newbie account, bounty detective is one example, I remember he becomes manager when still a newbie. another example is a new project using a newbie account. So always depends on the project

Newbies can't do all of the bounty work. How a new member knows how to manage a campaign. Only experienced members can do it or team members of the project team. We shouldn't trust any rank members campaign, our research is the best. Newbies never bring trust with average project, bounty detective had so many good campaigns but trust is already lost.

When I see a new project in the bounty section, I don't look at who published it and with what rating.  I start to study the project on my own and decide for myself whether to participate or not. The newbie status does not bother me, everyone was once newbies.

What I understand often looking through the bounties managers’ accounts is that the largest part of them resembles fake. No, I cannot yet trust new people that deal with it. I also hope that in future, honest specialists will replace these guys, and we will all feel more protected and safe.

Sometimes there are newbies bounty managers are more reliable than a high rank here in the forum. And there is also some high rank are not reliable as well, in short, whether you are a newbie or high rank here it is still not an assurance to say that the project will become successful in the end, very simple.

I certainly not, unless I make sure the bounty really belongs to the project and admin of telegram group confirm that, and I make sure the project is legit and has been added to some exchange or I make sure it is good enough that will go to some exchange after the token sale, participating in some new bounties from some unknown project that running by newbies is just time waisting.

I do not really like projects managed by Newbie (bounty manager).  Almost all the projects that I participated in, were managed by the Newbie ended up being a scam.  many developers do not want to spend more money to use the services of a trusted bounty manager as a precaution so that they don't get a red flag if their project fails.  advice from me, be careful if you want to join the project that is handled Newbie..

Sometimes the projects that are managed by the entry-level ranks are for the moment very dubious. but if your problem is never getting payment, maybe you missed some news about the distribution of prizes in their telegram group, if the problem is using an experienced bounty manager, do all projects have the initial capital to run the project, surely you already know that all projects They do not have initial capital, therefore they decide not to use the services of an experienced bounty manager, or they may not trust the already higher ranks and it could be that the bounty manager management service fees are too high. that may be one of their constraints, because this year it is very difficult to distinguish which projects are good or not, sometimes managers who have high rankings, often fail to manage the campaign bounty, and all participants do not get payment from managers who have higher rankings. therefore this year is very different from projects in 2017, where many projects from the whole had their own success, even though they did not have initial capital and they did not use the services of managers with higher ranks or those who used the services of managers who had already experienced..

Actually, this is just a matter of our persistence in participating with the prize project, sometimes we forget to make sure more about the project so it won't be in vain in the future ..

Some projects are good but their team will make the project frustrating, for example;
I don't like a project that update their spreadsheet late, I'm would like to know if I need to buckle up on any area as early as possible,
2. Sometimes when it comes to distribution then you begin to see problems from some team,some would have mixed up you address.
3. Some team will not even tell you their is no more distribution, they will silently close the project.....
So, I'm saying the team matters too.

Yes, it's true that bounty managed by a ranked manager consider a good project, but it doesn't mean that only ranked managers can bring good quality projects. Sometimes a team member from the project runs the bounty by themselves, so they come with newbie accounts. It doesn't mean that I am recommending bounties from newbie, but I would suggest checking the project quality before joining the bounty. Only by that, you can get a good reward.

I get uncomfortable with bounties that are promoted by new accounts. I feel there's something fishy especially when the reward is in ethereum and the tasks includes social media campaigns. I feel it may be floated to get followers and later change the project account to personal account. I'm more comfortable with a high level account being bounty manager.

Do you trust newbies that starts projects?
There are two types of newbies that starts projects.
1. Newbie with "Copper member" tag.
2. Newbie without "Copper member" tag.

When a newbie without "Copper member" tag manage a project then that project is much more likely to be a scam. So I personally don't. participate in that project.

When a newbie with "Copper member" tag manage a project then that project can be trusted somewhat. And you can participate in some such projects after making your own research about it.

Yes, I agree with you! The talent and knowledge of a BM is not depends on their rank and the success of the bounty project is depends on the project itself and on their team on how to handle their project properly. There are higher ranks managed a bounty project but at the end it tunred to scam. Much better to check the project very well before promoting it or joining a bounty and don't just rely on the rank.

The real project can't be decided based on their bitcointalk user rank.
Good project might announce their project with their own account or scam project might hiring high rank account to create scam announcement, we don't know. We should trusting the project based on the quality of the project, not on their btctalk account.
But of course, some well known bitcointalk members with high rank are trusted enough, because they are usually doing research into the project before announcing the project.

I advice you not to base only on that copper mebership. Even with copper membership as long as the one who handles the project is a newbie, it is much risky. Copper membership is only being bought to allow newbie members to post an image for the project. Participating in known or those reputable managers is better than wasting time on possible scam projects.

did you really trust the projects that using cooper member tag ? newbies is still a newbie. they just created their account some time ago to promote their projects in bitcointalk. they can be a scammer that paid for the cooper member tag. they just cost a little money for doing that and then get a big money for robbing investors money.

There are various possibilities in this, dude. Manager with a newbie rank maybe is an old manager whose account was hacked or got red trust or had other problems,
so the person created a new account.
As long as the project is good I will join the project and always do analysis before joining

The most important factor to consider when choosing a bounty is the integrity of the bounty manager. The rank is not as important as the integrity of the bounty manager, Because what is the point of joining a bounty by a higher rank bounty manger when the project is scam or will refuse to pay. So the bottom line is that your research the project itself before joining the bounty.

It depends on the project, there are times that even if the project is being handled by a newbie, the outcome is good or most likely if that newbie is part of the team. Rank is not really the basement if the project is good or not, there are time that even if the project was being handled by a higher rank, the project can still turn out to be a scam project.

Bitcointalk rank is indeed not a benchmark for a project to be successful or not, a successful project must be seen from the team whether verified, whitepaper and roadmap are good and not duplicate. what must be prioritized is the verified social media team because if you are going to do a scam it will be able to trace its whereabouts and be able to legal proceedings.

For me I think the forum ranking is not really a strong indication that a project will be successful or it will turns out to fail or become a scam project. Even those well-known bounty managers has this experiences also that they manage a failed/scam project. And I think the best way for us to do in order for us to ensure that we will not wasting our time and effort to a project is have a deeper researching of your prospect project even it is being managed by a higher ranked forum BM or even managed by a newbie rank BM.

Project's success are not based on ranks or popularities but it is based on how be successfully sold out during sales and get being  listed on top exchanges in the market. Above mentioned bounty managers are respected in the bounty community that's why they are mostly get hired by the team but there are also low rank mangers are also good and efficient handling such campaigns and get success as well. And of course the project itself should be the indicator of success on how  solid foundation and well funded they have.

indeed there are very many beginners who run a project and the results are not much different from seniors or who already have very high rankings, everything returns to all managers if one project is handled by a beginner, the management is good, the project is running smoothly, no any fraud is sure to work. beginners or seniors don't corner each other. The most important thing, cooperation is the essence.

for the initial criteria I agree with you because experience is indeed the main capital, and maybe also for beginners who become a bounty manager is someone who is very experienced or a senior who has a new beginner account. or also the project that is being carried out is indeed a very good project.

There is no screening method in crypto space to screen any new project team or devs so how will one know that a particular personal is qualified to lead or build a crypto project? Most especially the newbies, now that DeFi hype is bringing in huge money we started seeing new developers building new projects, I belief they are in for the money so no I don't trust newbies

I mean, money follows good projects, so obviously they are for the money, but not necessarily to scam people.

I think it's depends on project. I saw many legendary member project  failed or scammed. But i believe they have enough experience about choice a project. And i think it's totally depends on project team. Many  project team create own account then they manage their project.

This is a tricky question, every old legendary members are once a newbie, you can't criticised a newbie for been newbie, we gotta give them chance, what I expect people to do is judge by the project been released by either the newbie or the legendary members, let the projects they introduce speaks about them

It doesn't matter, even high rank members can introduce scam projects, don't judge a newbie because they are newbie, some are better than high ranking members, it's better to do research on the projects instead and use what you can pile up to judge the person that introduced the project

I think ranking is not the main thing for someone to become a bounty manager, because there are several projects that take their own bounty, so he creates a new ID on bitcointalk and has a newbie ranking, but will that affect his performance in the bounty? In my opinion it has no effect, because a good bounty manager is not determined by ranking, but from the performance and criteria of good performance for a bounty manager in my opinion is :
1. always responds to bounty hunters quickly
2. calculate stake in a timely manner according to the promised time
3. does not change the bounty rules suddenly
so in my opinion a good bounty manager is the performance of bounty manager and not the rank.

Many unqualified developers are getting into crypto nowadays so I'd say don't trust newbies that much, something still holds high ranked members back to introduce scam projects and that's the rank and reputation, it's not easy to rank up to senior or hero members, introducing a scam project will end up in red trust but it's not like this with newbies, they have nothing to lose

The bounties that gives me biggest reward are both managed by jr member, one is airwallet and the other is oikos bounty, I believe okios team managed their bounty themselves but let me correct you, it doesn't matter who introduce the bounty, just do your own research and decide if the project is worth a shot.

everything comes back to one's luck and efforts, be it a legend manager or a newbie, if the project is good it will definitely be successful, but if the project fails or is fake there will be failure, and everything comes back to each other, either the manager or the hunter. gifts, and for myself personally during the project he promises to be followed.

No one is perfect. Not even high ranked members here are perfect despite their experience. I remember that there is a case that a high ranking member of this forum managed a bounty, but got exit scammed by the founders of that scam project. Everything has a risk, and we can’t escape that.

For me, regardless of the rank, escrow is the glue that would make both sides fair in doing their jobs. Would like to make a mention to julerz for that, and Bounty Detective and Bounty0x who had tokens got pre-funded or escrowed.

Newbies comes on this forum for different reasons but from past experience I've seen many failed projects that are managed by newbies to jr members than projects that are from high ranking managers, the choice is yours to make and I belief that by doing the right research you can easily make the choices.

I thought it was about newbie team but it seems to be about a newbie manager that handles the bounty,
For me the rank of the manager doesn't matter as long as the project is good and the manager could handle the bounty well and they could check and give as an update about what is happening to the bounty then the rank wouldn't matter to me.
They should be able to keep up on their certain due dates and update their spreadsheet once a week or on their given time.

Not necessarily every newbie account that handles a project is really a newbie, sometimes developers don't have this forum account so when they want to start their project, then their account is a newbie rank even though they are experienced people.

I have bad experience on bounties that is manage by a newbie,  these are

Not updating the spreasheet weekly
Not answering questions on telegarm bounty
Dont give update when is the distribution.

now that I mean there are so many good projects and want to do a campaign on BTT, and create a new account because they don't have any members here before. so we have to really pay attention to each project not because of the rank of manager.

Exactly, though, usually they are newbies because they try to scam people.

 Depends on the "newbie" account. If there is a new project that is starting soon, they have to get a username from bitcointalk and start a new account which would make them look like a newbie and that would cause them to be not respected? I do not think so, you can be a newbie account, pay for a copper account if you want to as well, but you could still get a respect, all depends on your project. If the project looks awesome and amazing and spends millions just on marketing I am sure they will manage to get a lot better results than some legendary account who has a horrible project.

 So the credibility and trust doesn't respond to newbie or legendary or any level of account, it depends on the level of quality in the project, some projects are great and some projects are not so great, if you are lucky you are going to get projects that will make you rich, and if you are unlucky you could find a project sponsored by all the admins, theymos himself, all staff and whole legendary accounts on bitcointalk and it could turn out to be a bad one.

Everyone started with nothing and sometimes new projects with low budget try to find inexperienced bounty managers to pay them less, but of course I don`t like to participate in campaigns which were arranged by newbies. Forum rank shows person`s experience and this system often helps to definite well-trusted people and projects from low-trusted

I will trust a project if there is proof, for newbies, I think it's hard to believe that they are legit, I mean how can you trust someone who is new to cryptocurrency? they will have a hard time convincing someone, especially that there are lots of scammers lurking around, investors are intelligent now unlike before like 2017 wherein a lot of people believe sometimes by just plain words and promise.

It actually depends on the project itself, because there are some projects that have a really good platform, roadmap,, and website which you can consider before joining, sometimes they are using their own account to manage the project (newbie), so you can really trust that one. But if there's a project that is not promising and they have not a good platform and website, we can say that it is a scam since there are lots of people who are deceiving others just by creating their own project and own account to manage that. There are also some projects that have a manager that is high rank in the forum but still failing, you should be careful on where you invest your money.

Newbies and Jr members

1. They lose nothing if the project exit scam
2. It's easier for scammers to create new accounts to deceive
3. Most newbies have low experience about managing a project

Full members onward

1. They've sacrifice time and effort to reach that certain rank
2. They mostly won't risk their reputation for scam projects
3. They have good managing experience

That's right, not every team member or developer teams have an active account on this forum. so why not? if they offering something good and legit, will take it with no problem

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You forgot the part where there are bought/hacked high-ranked accounts or also high-ranked accounts that just want to exit-scam.

If he’s really newbie and became a manager when he first got into the forum, of course, he’s inexperienced then less professional in handling projects. He should have been an assistant manager before.
If he’s been an assistant manager before and just created an account on bitcointalk, it doesn’t matter. The problem is if he's really a newbie.
In my opinion, if he was really a newbie then he wouldn’t dare to be a manager when he first came into this forum.

They will have long time to prove their capability and credibility if they are a newbie.
But will not judge them early, will see if the project he's promoting will respect what they are claiming.
In time, you will see if they are heading to just screw investors or they are real with their mission.
Each one of us came from a newbie status also. So we have to understand their position.
There were some projects here endorsed by Legendary members, and yet they also ended up scam.

First i will see the project website and team. Then i will see concept and there main goal. This is not big matter that published from who. If newbie Project manager knowlage ok, then no problem to trust. It’s just my opinion.

Newbies aren't always experienced in the field of project managing, it's up to us to do research on the projects they are trying to get us to promote for them, spend time with the project and analysis is very well, then you will know if its worth taking the risk or not.

It's most easier to promote a bounty project from a Sr members or legendary member, even if the project isn't good enough you can sti take a shot since it from a high ranking member, Hhampuz for example introduced JACS bounty campaign weeks ago and I saw comments from bounty hunters saying they are promoting the project because of the bounty manager, he has high grade reputation on this I guess.

Not all newbies who started project can't be trusted. I joined a campaign before started by a newbie and later on I earn money from it and also because of it I also earned additional $2000.

Hi mate, I'm not trying to degrade someone here but bounty detective aren't that good either, they are still learning, they have introduced too many bad projects since 2019 that failed, few are complete scam, I don't promote any of those projects because I can figure out that they aren't worth my time, I pick high quality projects alone, the fact is bounty managers don't need to introduce 10 projects in a year, three quality bounty projects is enough, if we are talking about a high quality bounty manager my answer is Bubbalex and Hhampuz

Well either newbies, Jr member, Sr members, or legendary members it doesn't make much difference, it's easier for scammers to use newbies account to fool bounty hunters but it's also bounty hunters duty to make sure they aren't heading into a trap bounty campaign, learn to make the right choices with strict analysis

Absolutely Not mate,i rather choose to check deeply the project first before giving my trust on them because sorry to say but almost every newbie that starts a project turns scams or promising until long time.
But of course not all of them has that outcome yet since there are few account that starts comes bigtime overtime .

It all depends on the project. Yes, We know that when a hero or a member of a legendary rank comes up with a project, they come up with a well-verified.They have a lot of experience. But now most of the projects are run by Newbie. And most projects are scams. Now very few newbie projects are successful. So it's very hard to believe Newbie's project.

Whether the bounty manager is a Newbie or a legends, what matters most is the project. what is the project all about, whether they will deliver or Not. The most annoying thing this days is payment. projects has form the habits of Not paying hunters at the end of the campaign exercise. Many believed that hunters are responsible for token failure in the market. Also some project choose to work with Newbies so they can control them.

Truth be told, I am hesitant to participate in a bounty when I see the rank of its manager is newbie. It creates an impression that the project could be scam. I do a good research before deciding to participate or not.   

I don't like participating in bounties that are managed by newbies or bounties that are managed by the project team themselves, they will abuse the rules and keep postponing payment until you get tired of it and probably move on, only very few projects conducted by the team paid hunters as promised, e.g oikos bounty

In fact, it is not so important who leads the announcement thread or who follows the community on the telegram.
Much more important is how developers behave, their technical background, and their marketing level. To understand this, it is enough to ask the right questions in the telegram channels, and everything will fall into place.

So, do you think newbies shouldnt start bounty threads?!

If the project looks really good and the new account reflects the official name of the project then i may try but if it is a new account just created for bounty campaign with anonymous id then it is a negative for me also i will look more critically both to project and campaign before looking to join.

Most of the campaigns that I participate in project management, whether they are new users or above a higher ranking, I think most of them are managed by their own team so as not to spend too much or the cost of an experienced campaign manager, of course it must cost money hiring services to chase campaigns, in fact I don't see whether new users or experienced managers, instead see from the concept or team in the project, so that I avoid fraudulent projects, if the project concept is promising even though it is managed by new users, then it's fine for us to try to join the project ..

At some point having a high rank position here in crypto was a plus factor if ever you were going to start a project. It was most likely attractive to investors and bounty campaigners to join the said project. For a newbie to handle a project i bet were hard to believe in and may result for confused and curiosity to investors. But then i didn't underestimate the capability of a newbie if he can able to prove its ability to manage a project.

Any project can become successful, whether it's from a newbie or a legendary member it doesn't change anything, we need more than luck when promoting a project, what we should look for is the quality of the project, many projects from jr members still became successful, always do your own research

Agree with some points but ranks doesn't consider the genuienity of a person because a scammer is a scammer which means his intend is to fool people's, also note that even he too works for a project in the name of bounty manager. He's not the owner of the project he too believes in the project like we do, unfortunately if the project fails he would be responsible for it right.

Yet it doesn't mean it's trusted either. Still the fate of said projects are on the developer's hands, they can hire high ranked members to promote their shits but most of the high ranked members are very selective imo, especially of how bad the scammers are right now, as they are swarming the entire altcoin section right now.

No I don't, atleast I don't joke around when doing research on projects from newbie, I always make sure the project is worth promoting, you should know that it's easier for scammers to create newbie accounts for their bad plans. Newbie accounts have nothing to lose.

There's nothing to argue about for beginner rank managers and hero ranks to handle a bounty Personally, before joining the bounty, I always looked at the contents of the project read the white paper carefully looking at the roadmap and partners when all looks good enough, I will join the bounty
although the manager in charge is a newbee

I agree that rank of a member on this forum shouldn't determine if it's a good or bad project. But it's still going to affect some investors. As a newbie or beginner here on the forum you could easily partner up with a hero member. It doesn't cost so much to involve an experienced project manager here, and could definitely make a difference. I would recommend to team up with more experience people on this forum atleast for the launch phase of your project.

Many projects choose forum newbies because they are probably confident their staff would be more appropriate for the project start-up. This person is probably on the development team, they will understand details and answer investor questions more thoroughly. They will learn to manage through other bounty campaigns, the requirements are often repeated. So it is still possible to trust the novice project but it needs a detailed review.

I think it's fifty-fifty. however, it all depends on the project, not who created the thread. yeah, but, the truth is I have more confidence in the project carried out by BM, which has been trusted at this time. there is no reason not to pay them, even for a big prospective project, it is a necessity. it's just that, it all depends on the observations and research you do on the project. even if he is a newbie, but if he uses escrow for the payment, or if the payment is using stable coins, then it could be more considered.

You have a point its about the project itself and not the one who will manage the bounty.

However sometimes the manager is an indication of a good project because those reputed high rank members would not risk their reputation just for rewards.

What important for them is their reputation that they establish here in the forum.

Every campaign manager or a bounty manager is once a beginner. These days more users have started their management services. For very few newbie managers who have scammed the participants we can't mention every project manager untrusted. Nowadays newbie managers were provided with a negative tag on their first campaign managed. Based on the way the campaign is being run the tag is removed. This is good to make newbie managers trusted.

I understand the gold standard. I know that we moved away from it, and now the entire banking system is essentially an illusion.  Got it.  What I don't understand is how Bitcoin is any different.  It's on the internet.  Got it.  But trading paper based on trust of a government that isn't backed on anything is what we're doing now.  No real value, just trust.  Where you lost me is in the actual value of bitcoin.  As it also seems to be backed by nothing, isn't it simply the same illusion, just online?

To start a new project, you need to announce the project here in bitcointalk forum.
And to announce the project, you need to create new bitcointalk account in this forum, it starts from brand new rank.
So, i guess i will trust the project if they are a really good project and have a good well known team members, partners, plans, etc even if the rank of their bitcointalk account is newbie.

to be honest but I don't trust Newbie who handle new projects, but the current state of the Bounty is always a lot that doesn't pay plus lots of new projects with Newbie managers, I think bounty hunters should be able to choose that Newbie who handle new projects should not be trusted, if the project is serious want to promote his project must be willing to pay the bounty of a high rank manager with a good reputation

Any Newbie announcing a new coin or project should at least be a copper member. Being a copper member would allow them to display graphics and formatting. I would prefer the responsible person or people in the project to start the thread rather than asking any other people to do it on their behalf. Anyone starting an announcement of ICO with text only goes straight to cheap scam attempt category in my classification.

In my opinion, Newbie is only their new account to manage the project, while they have been here for a long time with a different account, this aims to avoid red trust on the old account if the project has problems.
bounty detective is a community bounty manager, but most of their projects fail, they have a project strategy of listing to exchanges before the IEO launches, and they activate token in exchange a high price so that it looks more attractive.

Good or bad of a project does not depend on the ranking of the account, one cannot conclude just by looking at the forum rankings. project success depends on the project team itself in managing the project not on account rankings. out there there are lots of beginner and high rank accounts in managing projects but that is not a guarantee that the project will be successful.

If we think about it, newbie managers should be more interested in the success of the project and perform their tasks more quickly, as it is important for them to create a positive impression of themselves as a bounty Manager. Work for the future))

As long as the newbie puts on the effort, the rank will be disregarded. I think that the more the account owner makes it work for everyone, the better his reputation will be.

I generally center around the group and projects communities, supposing that they have a good vision and they truly construct a strong item then achievement follows itself while if the colleagues are simply pushing excessively and advertising individuals in wire about the symbolic price to rocket up, it is a terrible sign.

I likewise attempt and converse with a couple of colleagues on wire prior to investing and check whether they are sensible and engaged or simply brimming with disposition with no capacity to bring input and convert into feed forward.

I think forum rank doesn't really matter, because what see is definitely the project whether it's legit or not and if careful before joining, you should do research first. Maybe most people will think that a rank like a hero or legendary always brings legit and trusted projects. In fact they had a project scam once.

In my experience they (mentioned) are not much good quality bounty managers as you think. Whatever, you are right and wrong in same time about newbie bounty managers. It's possible and happened many times before that scammers tried to loot people with newbie accounts. So it's tough to believe a bounty project which one created by a newbie account. Other hand if a new legit project want to start a bounty program with their own then there is nothing to do, because no one will make their account to hero or senior member in couple of weeks.
So it's a good idea that don't depend on some one. Do your own research before you join any projects.

In the efforts made by a newbie, it is not wrong because he is trying to be better, but if for a trust or reputation, a newbie still needs time to make it so that everyone will not immediately believe in him until everything he does is proven right.

I have newbies who handled the campaign bounty effectively and successfully, majority of them are part of the team, you don't have to go to college to know how to create a spreadsheet, you just need to be considerate and effective, able to listen to make the campaign successful,
majority of it goes to character who knows fairness and the ability to communicate, newbies can handle bounty campaign because I have a seen a lot of it.

Every hero and legendary members are once newbies too, we don't have to ignore projects just because they are from newbies, I suggest we check them out first before ignoring them, there are few projects with newbies account that still keeps their promises, do your research first.

for me, even though it's a newbie it doesn't matter,
I always analyze it first to join a bounty. usually a new project will buy a cooper member,
because in this forum it is very difficult to raise levels, so it is only natural that the project is run by a newbie.

what I often encounter is that a bounty project manager who uses a beginner account can be the admin of the project itself and can also be a new manager using his personal account. for me it doesn't matter, in a project the most important thing is how the manager's performance is in managing the project and the quality of the project itself.

Reputable managers who are higher ranks such as yahoo, Hhampuz, etc. adds credibility to the project since they make sure that bpunty hunters are paid out accordingly and that they are not helping out scam projects on promoting. But we cannot remove the fact that new projects choose to handle their own bounty program to save funds and it doesn't always mean that they are not legitimate.

True, I believe that's why many are promoting JACS bounty on this forum, I can see that the bounty manager is Hhampuz, I checked out the project but I wasn't that impressed untill I noticed it's from Hhampuz, I guess that's why many joined, the signature campaign spreadsheet consists of over 300 bounty hunters, Credibility speaks louder I guess

if this is related to account rank then, Manager with beginner rank may be old manager whose account was hacked or got red trust or has other problems, so that person creates new account. but you need to remember that as long as the project is good then follow it, if you think it is not feasible then look for another project.

Not very much, I always make sure I look very deep in a project from newbies before joining or promoting such project, there is a high chance that the project is scam or pump and dump project, although not all of them but we just have to be on high alert before promoting

A old bounty manager that lost his or her account to hacker can earn it back I believe, they have to take the issue up to admins, I've heard cases like that and they successfully retrieve their accounts for them, high ranking bounty managers have their credibility well built already, that's why I prefer projects from them.

believe it or not it seems to me not by the kind of rating it is. such as the example of a beginner rating managing a new project or a high ranking is not a benchmark to judge a project by its cover. important is the project roadmap, team performance, the reputation of the developer and also what they offer the market.

Not all of them are clean so it's our duty to investigate before promoting their projects, some newbies are scammers while some aren't, to find that out we have to use our skills, most times I prefer projects from high rank members and most importantly the quality bounty managers we have on this forum but newbies are worth giving a chance too

No, I may not trust newbies project. Many newbies do not know the project well before taking the member project. The purpose of their project is to know nothing about Team's and future. After running the project for a few days, the team's member went through a scam

No I don't trust newbies that introduce new projects because there is probability that the projects are from scammers too, there is nothing to lose if a newbie account introduce new project unlike high ranking members that have work hard to build their credibility, they have something to lose atleast compared to newbie accounts.

Let's be practical right now and to be honest we will not trust those newbies to start and run a new projects and maybe it will be hard to find a supporters for the new projects that will be run by a newbie. Obviously we will go to those veterans when it comes to the work and have the experience all over the projects so that the project will eventually have a good run.
In fact me myself I will probably go to the veterans and expert to run the projects than the newbies who is new to the business and less experience than I have, this not that I am not trusting those newbies but I am more capable on trusting the experts when it comes to the experience.

That's right, the priority for bounty hunters should be the analysis of the project itself, and not study of BM. After all, there may be a situation when the project does not meet requirements and BM is not a newbie and up to this point did not conduct bad campaigns.

The success of the project here in cryptocurrency business is not depend on the rank of the bounty manager. Because sometimes there are some newbie bounty manager that are more trustworthy rather than the higher ranking here in the forum in terms of Bounty manager. So the most important here as an individual member in the forum is that we should know how to determine the legit project just simple as that.

To give the perfect answer for this question I have to judge with over 20 bounty projects I've promoted since I entered this space, the fact is only very few bounties from newbies are real, many are scam, they don't pay up till this day, I recommend going for projects from high rank members only

Well, most of the projects today are scams. Even those who are handled by high-rank members later turned out to be a scam. But it is indeed reassuring to participate in a campaign handled by high-rank members since they also did the research for it before launching and their name is on the line, so I think they will be careful picking campaigns that aren't scam.

There are various reasons why new projects are managed by novice members. Say like a low ranking member managing a bounty project it could be because of a hack on his personal account, got a bad reputation on his account, or some other negative issue. So, I personally only believe in what projects they offer to the public and not in account rankings.

I trust some newbie projects because some have paid me my reward without much delay, still we have to do research on any projects that is introduce by newbies because it's easier for scammers to use newbie account to promote scam projects, it's our duty to do research so that we can avoid scam projects.

In general most people will question the credibility of the ICO/ IEO due to the rank of the manager that is posting it, however doesn't high ranking account user also start from a newbie and slowly climb up the ladder to be where he is now? If we dont give newbie chance to start from somewhere even if he can have a high rank in the forum he might not have the necessary skills to perform as a manager. 

It's hard to tell. But surely in this community if a high rank member start a project that would be more acceptable that any low rank start a project. But it's hard to say ensure that if a high member go with a project that doesn't mean that's not gonna go a scam or something. So I always prefer that go with manager that go offer good projects in history. That's it.

I trust high rank members or BM more than newbies but still even high rank members can introduce scam or bad projects, you must do research on project to find it they are worth your money, don't invest because of someone's rank on this forum

I can trust and support someone's project regardless of the fact if they are newbie or not for as long as I am seeing their project as good, profitable and legit. Before I enter a project I am checking the reliability, background, legality and legitimacy of that project to ensure also the security of my coins before I join and invest it to them because that is the right mindset of an investor.

I'm presently seeing some new projects on this forum that was introduced by the official team themselves and the account rank is from newbies to jr members, are you going to ignore the fact that these projects are introducing their own projects themselves and instead call them scammers ?? That's wrong

Either from a newbie, jr members or hero members it doesn't matter, if the project is promising do not hesitate to promote the project, some times now rated projects will bring more profits than high rated projects, crypto space is full of surprises, don't underestimate any.

It's no risk no reward for crypto investments, you are the one to find where or what to put your hard-earned money on, newbies introduce good projects too and you shouldn't ignore just because some scammers are newbies too, do your research before judging or live to regret later

Yed it is really hard to judge because sometimes they are the one who promoting real project, but we know also that most of them wre scammers who the purpose is stole people money's. A lot of people are looking for the project who gives them a real profit but now a days sad to say it is less percertage to find out what it is because a lot of scam happening and that is because of the scammer who never stop.

Now a days it is very difficult to believe a project.
This is not the main fact that who start the project.
But when a legendary or newbie member start a project
This must be more trustable than newbies.

Im not sure that we really need another project in crypto. I dont see anything good in icos/ieos for a long time

Jamalezaz best manager for the first time I know with bounty campaign, although right now he reputation is not trusted any more I think when bounty campaign on fire he is good campaign manager. He has faster respond when complain with bounty stake, but now he not get trusted anymore from ICO project and almost his campaign running never have participants. I see now Jamalezaz still as bounty campaign participants because his account get many red trust from bounty participants have disappointed with him. Foe newbie as manager bounty campaign I need escrow and never give chance for joining without escrow.

Due to numerous scam projects its hard to know which is scam and which is legit. So for me its better to trust the higher ranks and for the newbie account just ensure that it has a good history or even associated in a legit project. Better to inspect the manager and projects thoroughly to ensure that you are in a good hand.

When the manager is a high ranked member he has a lot of connections  and experience so when he is offered a position as a project manager he can distinct a good project from a bad one that is why we see many successful project with experienced managers but that does not mean newbies mangers are a sign of a bad project.

True like what you said if we should not immediately sentence a novice manager, but sometimes we still have to be more careful in choosing a project manager for us to follow now because usually managers who have a lot of positive belief in my opinion are more reliable than newbie or Managers who do not have positive belief at all, indeed sometimes a new project is handled by someone from their team who only has a beginner rank and in my opinion, it is not logical at all because wouldn't it be better if their team members hired an experienced manager or at least a team they have a copper member rank in the forum?

many veteran rank bounty managers fail when handling the project or the project fails. and there is a newbie user rank handling the project, I really doubt it and need deep tracking to convince me if I want to join in the project.

To be frank there's a really simple way to find out whether a project or bounty managed by newbie are some real deal or not by simply seeing if that account is representing the project or you can ask the project directly whether a bounty is official. But, that only works if the project devs are some legit or famous people otherwise it's a gamble as you said.
It's only natural that some people not trusting for the simple fact that the account has no real history.

Don't just blame the bounty managaer when a project fails, project failure could be because the fundraiser did not reach the target and it could be because the technology or features on display were not much interested and doesn't fit in real life. I'm sure the bounty manager has considered and research more deeply when receiving the project.

I don't judge them but it will obviously raise some questions.

We can't just judge that user because he is a newbie, what we need to read, to observe, or to know is the project that he is actually doing. In this side of world, you can't just trust someone that easily, he needs to proves it and the way you can tell that is by knowing their goals and their reasons of starting that certain project.

with opriginal concepts of idea, investor might be with interest as appealing release of option with the offers from new developer as they might have also with distinctive of native ideas as option on exchange to collects impression from new users of the service.

It really depends on the project itself. Sure we can trust a startup company and invest, after all, ICOs are like crowdfunding campaigns and they just need workers to market it out. At the end of the day, it is the quality of the project and the management itself that would define whether a project is investment worthy or not. If the bounty is being managed by a good manager, then that is a bonus, but if you noticed the bad projects some good managers went to then you will know that not all good managers campaigns are good by our standards of what a good project is.

I see it is not a problem that besides BMs that have a good reputation, we see a lot of new projects emerge and they don't want to lose to BM in calculating and managing the events they organize, I think rank It is also important, but if a project is good enough then any matter the appearance of the project will make no sense.And the problem I always believe in my decision when looking for any project to join, I think you will have your own selection criteria, for me, the issue focuses on project that project, look carefully about it to see the project information, token sale, team,...

an account with a small rank is not yet completely new, he is new to crypto and has no experience in determining the project he wants to manage, to be honest I always see projects from the inside not from the bounty manager

Amazing part yet not generally can be confided in the other manner even there are some issue previously however so far I truly happy with lower rank director like Bounty Detective. great venture that sometime it will end up being a trick nor leave trick. Nobody truly knows whether you just depend on the supervisor, they have been paid by the organization they're advancing.

Some newbies that actually handle these projects are actually alternate accounts since there must have been no way some developers would trust their Bounty Campaigns to newbies OR they might be the developers that created their personal account specifically for the project that they would be managing. Some ranks like Copper Members are members that donated and might be a developer of their own projects which is cool since you can directly ask about their platforms.

Reputation is very important to the people who run bounty campaigns. It didn't matter before, but lately there are a lot of scam projects so the reputation of a manager is very meaningful.
so I don't overestimate the Newbie rank managed campaigns. Usually these managers dont have a project token deposit , so our rewards are very vague. :'(

The reason why people don't trust newcomers is not whether the Manager will be effective or not. This is for another reason. If the account has been on the forum for a long time, then it values its reputation and will not deceive other users. A newbie has nothing to lose, and the Manager working with a newbie's account can deceive other people.

I don't trust it because many of them just make a new account and try to get free promotion of their scam project(Not all, but many cases like that)
It's different if they buy copper member and escrow the funds, this step will avoid people to think they are a scammer.

Well, IMO, I still trust newbie accounts that handle projects provided they are very professional in their duty, and this will also be a kind of prove that they aren't really newbies in crypto in general, they are some of this newbie bounty managers who have been in crypto for a very long time but when they decide to go into managing projects, they think it more appropriate to register a new account where their usename of same as their company name, hence a newbie, an example is bounty detectives, though they have a low ranked account, but they have been in crypto for a very long time which is the reason why they are on top of their game.

It's true what you say I agree with you, and it looks like it's a very perfect incognito, but most of the projects that beginners hold consist of their own team, there are many reasons to hire a campaign manager whether it will cost money high, or also do not really trust the services of the campaign manager, and in the end they don't want to take the risk of using the services of a campaign manager, for the problem of bounty hunters who are still participating in projects managed by beginners, it is actually legal, as long as there is no warning or prohibition on the thread, because what I know is that everyone puts their luck on new projects that have sprung up, so if there are any irregularities in the project you can immediately give negative beliefs or report the problem to the forum moderator, so that not many are deceived by projects such as that ..

Right, regardless of the rank of who will manage the bounty still it will depend on the project itself. Because the success relies on how good the project is.

Newbies are sometimes part of the team thats why its not a basis to know if the project is good. But usually those high rank that will manage the campaign is sometimes an indication of a good bounty, specially if the member is reputable here.

I have half trust on projects from newbies because they have different aims, most of them are complete time wasters while some are scammers finding who to prey on, but few new projects still deserves our time, you can't actually know what new projects have in store unless you check them out first.

You should also know that not all hero accounts are managed by experienced people and vice versa, if there is a project managed by a beginner account then not necessarily the project will fail but instead because every manager who has managed a project they are ready to run the project, I don't think it is very influential in a project.

What I usually notice is that projects themselves are creating their own account to handle the project. There's no background or information on who the manager really is, it could be a reputable member but we all know that good projects are asking for the help of already reputable managers. I am not saying these bounty managers aren't experienced enough to handle big projects, in bitcoin signature campaigns, I will not mention the project but there are some who did a long term campaign through a new user account. They are professional enough to handle the campaign and they listen to the community here.

Perhaps, the basis for this will be how good the project is, if it is big, they are either launching the campaign through reputable campaign managers or will hire their own with a new account here on bitcointalk. We need to focus more on examining the project as bounty campaigns will not really determine the overall success of the project but the project's dev and marketing team.

Jamalezaz is now not a bounty manager, because the Tokenpay case has made Jamal have a bad reputation,
we know currently raising the level of an account is very difficult, so it is only natural that the bounty manager uses a newbie account,
if you follow a bounty manager with a newbie account, make sure they have Lots a followers.

Project's don't depend on manager's rank rather than project's depend on concept which has utility in the future, trusted team lineup and so on. Manager is used for promoting the bounty in various media so that people can know and investors get attention to know about the project details.

Depends on what you mean by newbies  ::) I personally always do my due diligence before investing in a project, like for example I check who the creators/owners are and try to find everything about them (their field of work, previous projects, if they were involved in fraudulent activities in the past etc.). However, luck plays also a big role when it comes to new projects. Crypto is still a wild west and there's plenty of opportunity for new projects to explode but also the % of failed projects is quite high.

We can't see the integrity of the bounty manager from the account ranks, numerous accounts with high rankings don't know how to work as a bounty manager,

also, a few cases that became bounty managers were the official team that had recently enlisted on the forum,

at that point would you say that the bounty manager has no insight! so for whatever the explanation one can't finish up by taking a gander at the forum rankings.

Almost 95 percent campaign of newbies account was opened by projects team. Because projects terms couldn't match with bounty managers. In this case, teams have the full right to change the rules. I don't know how we can include escrow in those projects. I want to stay away from any newbies account but I totally don't ignore all of them.

It is very interesting that it was true that in the past we were used to bounty managers with accounts that were qualified and at least this could give us a little sense of trust in the bounty manager. Some have even created a system to make it easier to calculate social media bounties so that you can update the stakes you get without needing a spreadsheet. even in the past spreadsheets could be updated every week without the need for more questions.

With time they have all pulled aside but the open disappears even though there are also, they are still looking for the best moment to be able to appear again. not that we do not appreciate a new account that becomes a bounty manager but trust when looking at this account, we cannot cover ourselves that there is a lack of trust. but I also appreciate that there are also many new accounts that can work well and I seem to believe they are additional accounts not real accounts.
if the account is really new, I'm sure no one wants the dev to cooperate with the capital that will be disbursed.

Sometimes even big things do not really matter and on the other side even smaller things can result in collapse of a project. So while selecting a project i look for a cummulative win for the project with major factors as project, team, use cases and first impression. So for me thread from a new account does not really matter obviously if there is nothing suspicious about it.

The project managers rank doesn't really matter when participating in a bounty, cus I have seen a few newbie ranks handle projects that turn out to be successful, but you will rarely see such, 95% of the newbies who handle campaigns are unprofessional most times they end up not paying at all, but I think it's best you stick to reputable bounty managers to avoid working and not getting paid at the end of the day, cus most of this newbies can not be trusted.

I do not see that to be a problem because not everyone has an established account at this forum also keep in mind that if a project is announced with the official name or web link type username then it will look more professional and that is what many projects nowadays follow as they want to brandize the project so they use the name of the project as username which is absolutely fine for me.

I have joined project managed by famous manager but did not get anything (HOMT) and I have also joined bounty managed by manager with newbie/cooper member rank but got decent results. so the manager is not problem for me.

These afformened bounty managers are very good and the best aspect of them is the fact they escrow most of thier bounty. Looking at bounty detective eagerness towards bounty hunters success they organised bounty from r projects that rugged hunters. This is actually an incredible move from them. I cherish that alot. It's not about newbies but what one can offer.

Projects don't really depend on the managers rank but eventually projects depend on the concept they will propose in the market which has utility in the future. Managers is the one who will indeed promoting the bounty in various media platform so that investors will know and get notified in every details of their projects.

I partially trust projects from newbies but my end judgment comes from the power of my research skills, not a new projects from newbies are bad it's just that there are more bad eggs among the good eggs, you need to do research and choose the good eggs is all, get to work and stop thinking that all projects from newbies are scam

Fundamentally it's alright to not full confided in some new administrator however it likewise not mean you can simply confide in higher part however. In any case, to give appraisal looking at amateur and higher positions, and base on their experience I'd ideally to confide in high positions than to another one. Obviously, they can in any case escape from those mix-ups.

no matter what rank, you can still get caught in a Scam, Yes, they are more trusted, but still no one is immune from this ) I once participated in a company held by novichok, everything went well, the award was received during

The account rank of a bounty manager cannot guarantee the quality of the project. Even the bounty manager is a Hero or Legendary, there is always a chance that the project isn't a good one. The best way is to do the same way whether the bounty manager is a low rank or a high rank. We must check carefully the bounty or the project. Check the team profiles, their track record, the legality of the project, their listing plan, the sponsorships, social media, its community, and many other else.

Not really because most of the newbie account are being made to run bounty for scam purposes. So, I am better off with those projects. The best project to join are those projects that pays BTC or altcoins that can be traded off to bitcoin or fiat currency directly. That because most.of the bounty hunters objective is to earn money from work. This may not be able to suffice basic needs but at least it could support by earning by promoting projects.

Yes, any newbies that have those things mentioned show that they are good in any  project.

1) Good experience: Any newbies with this quality of experience, is good to handle any project in bounty campaign and make it success.

2) Good information: Any newbie who can give good information to employee show that he will do well in any organization.

3) knowledge in bounty: Any newbie with good knowledge,can start a project and make it successful in the organization without any error in the project.

It doesn't matter if it is new or old users. I have seen many of you managers who are new and they do a good job.
 Scam projectors already have malice in mind, So we can't read anyone's mind. But all we can do is come up with a way to check on any project before start. Whenever there is a problem, it comes to Newbie why why..

If a newbie can give a good presentation on the potential of the market and also has proven it in his own way, then investors will be more than happy with something like that.
Investors do not see him as a newbie, which is a business idea that will be applied to the project.
We cannot give consumption about the hypothesis in the whitepaper, but we also need evidence to be able to ensure that the project that is carried out is needed by the public and will shine in the future.
The track record of a newbie member is also important as material for investor analysis in this forum

Very very true mate, I can't agree more with you, project managers with high forum rank is not a guarantee that the project they manage will be successful both for the project investors and bounty participants alike.
Though I can honestly say that, some of the forum high rank managers manage projects that pay in btc instead of altcoin.

Usually the newbie bounty manager is one of the members of the project team and the nickname used is the same as the project name, so we can underestimate the project manager because it could be that the project team is someone who has expertise in their field, indeed we see the manager with high rank are  more trustworthy of the by bounty participants, but not few of them are less competent managers in a project so it is not uncommon for participants to complain about the performance of the manager, novice manager or  high rank if they are competent and good in a bounty, of course that's not a problem for us, because of the honesty and competence not measured from high or low ratings.

First of all, I pay attention to the project itself, and not to the manager who leads it. If I liked the project and I assume that it can be successful, I take it on. Of course, if I am faced with the choice to give preference to a bounty with a higher-ranking manager, I will most likely do so. But it doesn't matter.

believe and not ,I more believe if look quality project as research before start think and not look rank too ,another friend say is true it could be a team that directly manage then create a new account ,It's easier if follow a well known manager because he has already reviewed products and other thing so full trust can be lived by hunter or investor through confidants usually trusted people are good at analyze

A successful project is the result of the hard work of the development team, when it was first launched, all projects have the same opportunities, the performance of the development team is very influential in the success of a project, if the project has a good direction, investors will wait patiently, but if the project is bad, investors will soon leave the project.
In my opinion, The manager has no effect on the success of a project, because the manager's job is to calculate the stake and distribute the bounty allocation to each bounty participant.

Maybe you mean a newbie managing a bounty project? If so, I would prefer not to take part in the bounty project managed by a newbie, because it is very risky and has no experience. Choose a project that is managed by a professional and trusted.

That's quite true because no matter who is leading that campaign, if the platform would not push through, the campaign would be useless and that would not be the fault of the Campaign Manager. It would always depend on the developers whether they really wanted to make their platform useful, they should step up and do their best by promoting it.

Of course you are right because Biswas makes it easy for people to reach their goals and from that Biswas I agree with you. Jodi can be good at any project or newbies project, and the important thing is that you have to sort it out well. And then if you like the project, then newbies can think of a successful project. Thank you

You're right, base on experience into the Blockchain, those people have handled many projects, that went successful. Which can be added more rules to play, than newbie into the system handle project and most of the project end up with scam. I support, let the high rank should handle bounty campaign.

A newbie who manages a project cannot be said to be inexperienced, I see this matter from a different perspective, sometimes these accounts are deliberately created by the project team to manage the projects they are running, Maybe they are having trouble with funding, so they can't afford a manager, and decide the project is managed by their team.

There are only two things that are often seen by most bounty participants in a manager, first because of the experience in holding projects and the second is the trust he has along with the rank that already exists in the manager, other than that it is only a plus.

Normally we trust a project which is offered by a high rank player rather than a jr.member or member rank. But you have think about one think that we all do bounty or management stuff for money. And most of the time it's hard to know if a project is good or not. So when a manager take a project it's hard to what is the future of the project. So it's fine whoever offer the project. Always do some research before joining a project. So it's not always upto them. And if you can try to stick with some good manegers the risk is low there.

Let the project concept do the talking, you can't deny a good project because it's been managed by a newbie or jr member, your duty is to check out the bounty project first, who knows it might be good enough, I've promoted few projects from newbies are they are good, one is Oikos DeFi and the other is Relictum Pro, both managed by jr member accounts

Some newbie Managers can be inexperienced and not comparable like Hhampuz and wapinter or others but there is always a first time for everything, some new bounty managers are willing to help, we need more bounty managers we can count on like bubbalex and others but if we can't support new bounty managers it will be a waste

I will trust with newbie running bounty campaign project if use escrow for payment, I will not join anymore without escrow because we can trust with newbie as bounty manager without have any experience as trusted manager or not because they don't running project any time. When have escrow we can believe with trusted manager bounty campaign and running depend which one project promote, have potential with many investor trust with his project, we can't prediction right now with success an ICO with who as manager bounty campaign, you can check with JAC campaign manager by most experience manager and checking how much coin sold right now, just little coin have success sold and its not enough for paying fee to list coin and I think is not good hope to get worth value with this coin.