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Title: Death during illegal cockfighting raid
Post by: acroman08 on October 30, 2020, 03:49:54 AM
I just watched a local news ( Philippines) where a police officer died during a raid of an illegal cockfight. as some of you might know the rooster on a cockfight has to wear a piece of an extremely
sharp blade called "tari" (photo below) while ifghting. according to the news, the officer's femoral artery was cut after being attack by one of the roosters in the cockfight that has tari attached to its legs. the officer was brought to the hospital but was announced dead on arrival due to blood loss.

the news said that the authorities were able to capture 6 of the organizer but there are still looking for 3 more people who were able to escaped during the raid.

one of the infuriating part here is that cockfighting was allowed in the area if organizers followed proper procedure and health protocol in order to legally operate during this pandemic. but these bastards decided fuck the law. and now their stupidity and lack of following the protocols resulted to someone's death.

https://i.imgur.com/TaldtHE.jpg source (https://jnv-gaff-enterprise-tari-shop.business.site/)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gNR8evtnc2k&t=1s


Title: Re: Death during illegal cockfighting raid
Post by: Lorence.xD on October 30, 2020, 04:10:02 AM
Aside from the main issue that it is an illegal cockfighting ring, the death is an accident and it does not have any correlation with the raid. Philippines has a big problem when it comes to this illegal cockfighting ring because a lot of money is involved in this kind of games, even politicians are known to bet on this games. Some are protected by the local authorities because they are bribed. There was once a story where a hitman is hired by a politician to kill the owner of the winning fighter, although it was a long time ago. There have been cases the same as this one that I have known of and by far this is the only time that someone died.


Title: Re: Death during illegal cockfighting raid
Post by: YOSHIE on October 30, 2020, 04:48:20 AM
I just watched a local news ( Philippines) where a police officer died during a raid of an illegal cockfight. as some of you might know the rooster on a cockfight has to wear a piece of an extremely
Sorry to hear about the death of law enforcers in the Philippines.
That is the responsibility of a law enforcer in eradicating gambling in the Philippines, how can chickens attack a human being, let alone the police, I think that the police who came to the chicken gambling place were unprepared and in full uniform and unarmed, that should not have happened, if you used full uniform when attacked by chickens you could be protected.

This is the worst experience for the police there, killed in cock attack, indeed in the Philippines chicken betting is quite common there, maybe in the future the police will be more careful when carrying out raids, hopefully the same thing won't happen again.


Title: Re: Death during illegal cockfighting raid
Post by: john_nautica on October 30, 2020, 05:03:20 AM
I didn't know that they have some sharp knife like that I thought they were just like fighting until one is exhausted. Well it's too bad for police for what happened it looks like this is a dangerous type of gambling not just for the animals that was killed every fight but also to humans who could really dealt serious damage or fatality.


Title: Re: Death during illegal cockfighting raid
Post by: Kasabus on October 30, 2020, 05:06:39 AM
I hope these organizers will rot to jail, these people does not respect the law, they know it's illegal during the pandemic but they still do and unfortunately this resulted to a death of an officer. The death of an officer, it should be given justice because he is doing his job to arrest these violators, I wonder how much is the penalty, monetary and jail time, it should be lifted to a higher offense IMO.


Title: Re: Death during illegal cockfighting raid
Post by: verita1 on October 30, 2020, 05:13:29 AM
The death of the Filipino police officer who was in the line of duty is sad and unfortunate news. Despite the fact that the sport of cockfighting was banned in August because local authorities were able to detect that they were being a focus of the Covid19 virus. Disagreeing with the actions of these people with the desire to profit, they dared to organize the event that had a tragic end.
With this outcome the authorities have been able to realize that this sport is dangerous and possibly there will be more restrictions in the future.


Title: Re: Death during illegal cockfighting raid
Post by: acroman08 on October 30, 2020, 05:29:32 AM
I think that the police who came to the chicken gambling place were unprepared and in full uniform and unarmed, that should not have happened, if you used full uniform when attacked by chickens you could be protected.
that is one of the problems here in the Philippines. majority of public servants like police, military, firefighter, etc.. lack proper equipment. I agree that this thing should have never happened if they have proper gear while conducting raids whether it might be a minor raid or a major raid.

I didn't know that they have some sharp knife like that I thought they were just like fighting until one is exhausted. Well it's too bad for police for what happened it looks like this is a dangerous type of gambling not just for the animals that was killed every fight but also to humans who could really dealt serious damage or fatality.
well, they have, and according to one of the commenters on youtube where I watched the news. this isn't the first time someone died because of it.


Title: Re: Death during illegal cockfighting raid
Post by: Rodeo02 on October 30, 2020, 05:31:43 AM
Aside from the main issue that it is an illegal cockfighting ring, the death is an accident and it does not have any correlation with the raid. Philippines has a big problem when it comes to this illegal cockfighting ring because a lot of money is involved in this kind of games, even politicians are known to bet on this games. Some are protected by the local authorities because they are bribed. There was once a story where a hitman is hired by a politician to kill the owner of the winning fighter, although it was a long time ago. There have been cases the same as this one that I have known of and by far this is the only time that someone died.

There are legal cockplfightimg tournamentn also in Philippines I don't know why many people prefer to use to bet in illegal way . Maybe because it much easier to bet there and anywhere as long as the place is vacant you can start cockfighting.


and for that of the policeman who died it's obviously an accident and no one want that to happen.


Title: Re: Death during illegal cockfighting raid
Post by: Reatim on October 30, 2020, 05:39:28 AM
One of my close friend died in the same way in 2013 as He sometimes sideline as "Kristo" a cockfight Sentensyador.

He had lost too much blood because of that very sharp "Tari" .



about this officer in which the Head of raiding Team had accidentally Hit by the fighting rooster In his Vital artery .

Hope in this way people might understand the risk of gambling in this corona times and also the accident might happen,for sure in that Province the law will be tighten towards this illegal gambling operation.


Title: Re: Death during illegal cockfighting raid
Post by: Twinkledoe on October 30, 2020, 05:44:20 AM
One of my close friend died in the same way in 2013 as He sometimes sideline as "Kristo" a cockfight Sentensyador.

He had lost too much blood because of that very sharp "Tari" .



about this officer in which the Head of raiding Team had accidentally Hit by the fighting rooster In his Vital artery .

Hope in this way people might understand the risk of gambling in this corona times and also the accident might happen,for sure in that Province the law will be tighten towards this illegal gambling operation.

No first aid was done. Police officers are trained to have basic first aid and CPR training, right? No medical personnel nearby or they should have done something to stop the blood? Sometimes, it is hard to believe that this situation still happens. Should have prevented but already too late.


Title: Re: Death during illegal cockfighting raid
Post by: LogitechMouse on October 30, 2020, 05:55:09 AM
The raid was successful but in exchange was a life of a police just because of the "tari" of a cock.

Quite unfortunate but that was an accident and no one wants that to happen.
Now regarding to the illegal cockfighting in general, what happened will not change anything because illegal cockfighting is widely happening nationwide. This must serve as a lesson to all police in our country that whenever they do a raid especially in this things then at least they will come in full suit so that things like this will not happen.


Title: Re: Death during illegal cockfighting raid
Post by: maxreish on October 30, 2020, 05:59:36 AM
I didn't know that they have some sharp knife like that I thought they were just like fighting until one is exhausted

Yup they allowed that sharp knife called "tari" whenever there is a cockfight. Unfortunately, the police officer suffered from huge blood loss, it was clearly an accident but organizers of this illegal gambling game  should be held responsible. People are really hard headed sometimes, let's admit that.

Quote from: Twinkledoe
No first aid was done. Police officers are trained to have basic first aid and CPR training, right?

Sadly, the officer put some clothes to tie his legs but the femoral artery (main artery) was cut by that sharp knife causing his death. You can actually survive from that cut with a rapid medical care which I doubt he was treated immediately as there is no medical representative to treat the cut.

Hope this will be a lesson learned to both parties (government enforcers and gamblers).


Title: Re: Death during illegal cockfighting raid
Post by: Strongkored on October 30, 2020, 06:21:50 AM
Cockfighting also occurs in my country as far as I know it's illegal that's why they do it in secret.
It's a pity they can do it legally but chose it to be illegal, if the police's death was really an incident the organizer could still be punished for illegal cockfighting they do.


Title: Re: Death during illegal cockfighting raid
Post by: TGD on October 30, 2020, 06:28:48 AM
This topic is sensitive IMHO and not worthy for discussion even it is gambling. Because the main subject matter on this news is the death of the police officer due to the rooster and the discussion will only circulate there and not on the gambling. Its very unfortunate to hear this news since policeman should never seize the rooster with blade for confiscation if he has no experience on it because its letal.

I don't understand why he decided to pick the rooster personally while he can ask a person that caught there to assist him on handling the rooster. Anyway damage has been done and lesson learned.


Title: Re: Death during illegal cockfighting raid
Post by: iTradeChips on October 30, 2020, 06:37:50 AM
It is unfortunate that the raid bore a bad fruit and that is in the form of a law enforcer's death. Before there was cockfighting and Jai Alai as the main games that people gamble with, now Jai Alai is no longer played in the country but cockfighting is still being played and there was the illegal and the "legal" versions being played in the provinces supported by the provincial governments and private companies (someone told me about this and haven't been confirmed). But anyway, lessons will be learned because of this and police should be able to conduct more strategized raids to avoid accidents.


Title: Re: Death during illegal cockfighting raid
Post by: Findingnemo on October 30, 2020, 06:50:29 AM
You can't avoid accidents, yes here the death might not occurred if these illegal things were completely stopped but money speaks more to the government so people bribe and make the illegal things so much common.

At least in future these kind of things can be avoided by giving proper protocol to organize these games if these games are completely unstoppable even after banning them


Title: Re: Death during illegal cockfighting raid
Post by: qwertyup23 on October 30, 2020, 06:58:24 AM
Aside from the main issue that it is an illegal cockfighting ring, the death is an accident and it does not have any correlation with the raid. Philippines has a big problem when it comes to this illegal cockfighting ring because a lot of money is involved in this kind of games, even politicians are known to bet on this games. Some are protected by the local authorities because they are bribed. There was once a story where a hitman is hired by a politician to kill the owner of the winning fighter, although it was a long time ago. There have been cases the same as this one that I have known of and by far this is the only time that someone died.

When I was a kid, my dad and my grandfather used to have a cockfarm in the province where they breed "champion line" of chickens every generation. We also have a mini stage in our farm where exhibition matches between chickens happen. Way back, my dad brought me to the Araneta stadium where he participated in four (4) matches. He won 3 out of 4 of those and it was a memorable time between me and him.

It saddens me that some people do not follow the strict protocol provided by the government. The pandemic has resulted to countless of deaths and transmissions due to the fact that people do not observe the required and strict rules implemented by the government to prevent further transmission.


Title: Re: Death during illegal cockfighting raid
Post by: Questat on October 30, 2020, 07:08:02 AM
You can't avoid accidents, yes here the death might not occurred if these illegal things were completely stopped but money speaks more to the government so people bribe and make the illegal things so much common.



People maybe got panic, they run over knowing there is a raid so did the chickens, unfortunately the chicken already wearing a "tari" or blade, and when there's panic, chickens gets panicked as well, maybe these policemen was not properly oriented on how to ensure safety on their raid.

It's unfortunate to see this kind of news that the authorities are the ones who suffered instead of the people violating.


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At least in future these kind of things can be avoided by giving proper protocol to organize these games if these games are completely unstoppable even after banning them
This game will not be ban for sure, it's only temporarily ban due to the pandemic.


Title: Re: Death during illegal cockfighting raid
Post by: Genemind on October 30, 2020, 07:23:14 AM
That is unfortunate, the death of the policeman was not due to the raid but by accident. There are areas in the Philippines where cockfighting is legal as long as there are papers and they are following safety protocols. Cockfighting had been part of most people in the Philippines, but regulations have to be followed. The raid could've been avoided if the organizers have complied.


Title: Re: Death during illegal cockfighting raid
Post by: imstillthebest on October 30, 2020, 07:39:56 AM
That is the responsibility of a law enforcer in eradicating gambling in the Philippines, how can chickens attack a human being, let alone the police, I think that the police who came to the chicken gambling place were unprepared and in full uniform and unarmed, that should not have happened, if you used full uniform when attacked by chickens you could be protected.
this was illgegal betting and illegal bettings are commonly being raded and when police do raids they wont usually wore uniform so that they can act as a normal bettor in order for the crowd to not panic and when they are inside thats the time they will call for back up and police that will back are in full uniform .

not just in a uniform but the one that should handle the chicken are expert on this activity because its dangerous knowing that chickens are still equiped with these sharp knives .

 the chicken could have also panic along with the crowd resulting for it to hit the police accidentally


Title: Re: Death during illegal cockfighting raid
Post by: Ayiranorea on October 30, 2020, 07:43:45 AM
There is nothing intentional with the death. Even if the organizers have made it right following the proper rules and procedures this death could've happened. I state this based on the way the attack has happened. It has taken place by accident, which isn't avoidable. Maybe then onwards more precaution will be taken while organizing these games by emergency units ready to handle any situation nearby.


Title: Re: Death during illegal cockfighting raid
Post by: k@suy on October 30, 2020, 07:47:46 AM
That is the responsibility of a law enforcer in eradicating gambling in the Philippines, how can chickens attack a human being, let alone the police, I think that the police who came to the chicken gambling place were unprepared and in full uniform and unarmed, that should not have happened, if you used full uniform when attacked by chickens you could be protected.
this was illgegal betting and illegal bettings are commonly being raded and when police do raids they wont usually wore uniform so that they can act as a normal bettor in order for the crowd to not panic and when they are inside thats the time they will call for back up and police that will back are in full uniform .

not just in a uniform but the one that should handle the chicken are expert on this activity because its dangerous knowing that chickens are still equiped with these sharp knives .

 the chicken could have also panic along with the crowd resulting for it to hit the police accidentally
The are called assets. They are pretending to be a normal individual just to caught in act those people who does an illegal activity. Sometimes they are also using a normal individual as a spy or undercover. They are using body camera just to listen with the conversation and wait for the right signal when they need to take an action because their main goal is to caught the suspect in an unexpectingly way.


Title: Re: Death during illegal cockfighting raid
Post by: safari88 on October 30, 2020, 07:57:05 AM
so at first they were surround the vicinity without any uniform or gear? i think it's a good strategy to surround the vicinity and corner their target person maybe the one who operates that illegal cockfighting arena.


Title: Re: Death during illegal cockfighting raid
Post by: supine on October 30, 2020, 08:22:45 AM
It was an accident yes but it could have been avoided if only the organizer follows the protocol there wouldn't have been a raid.
I feel sorry for the Police officers family they lost him because of the people who didn't follow the law.


Title: Re: Death during illegal cockfighting raid
Post by: Sirait on October 30, 2020, 09:05:24 AM
~snip
^ sad to hear there a victim died in the raid on cockfighting gambling. I think why the police were not wearing special clothes at the time of the raid, is he trivial!

in developing countries, cockfighting is still a favorite of local gamblers because of the high profits and high prices of fighting cocks.


Title: Re: Death during illegal cockfighting raid
Post by: reliable on October 30, 2020, 09:20:58 AM
It was an accident yes but it could have been avoided if only the organizer follows the protocol there wouldn't have been a raid.
I feel sorry for the Police officers family they lost him because of the people who didn't follow the law.

Such instances are really heart breaking as such instances could be really avoided and no human should be losing his life like this. Though it was an accident and nothing was purposely done but still at times there should be some strict rules for this type of violation else it will continue to happen in future too.


Title: Re: Death during illegal cockfighting raid
Post by: ultrloa on October 30, 2020, 09:23:00 AM
It was an accident yes but it could have been avoided if only the organizer follows the protocol there wouldn't have been a raid.
I feel sorry for the Police officers family they lost him because of the people who didn't follow the law.

Sad to say that illegal cock fight pits are not following any protocols that's why they are been raised by the follow officer and it's just unfortunate accident which cost the life of officer. This is isolated case though it's really sad to see a life wasted because of illegal vices of other people.


Title: Re: Death during illegal cockfighting raid
Post by: CryptocurencyKing on October 30, 2020, 09:42:59 AM
This is a habit some gamblers engage in that is rather not worthy, endorsing or petronizing illegal gambling. The issue with this one is, the option of making it go legal is available to them, it's just for them to get the necessary permit and the policing fear factor would be gone for good. Having such a weapon shows the length of suffistication the organizers are in their game or little show and as such, fund to acquire necessary permits shouldn't have been a problem as far as I sense it.
It's just so sad that it cost a life for them to recognize this. That rooter object is so sharp, amazing what humans make animals do yo themselves for our amusement and probably earn some bucks.


Title: Re: Death during illegal cockfighting raid
Post by: matchi2011 on October 30, 2020, 09:43:43 AM
First of all sympathy for the family of the officer who died in line of doing his duty, this accident that happened
really annoying as the police life suffer because of this people who organized this gambling activities.

I'm sure that those who got caught are now regretting what they've did, knowing that someone loss his life
because of their stupidity.

Those people will serve more years after the death of this official, instead of only for gambling more  cases
will be added as there's life that been cause of this illegal gambling.


Title: Re: Death during illegal cockfighting raid
Post by: peter0425 on October 30, 2020, 09:54:08 AM
Sorry for the loss of the family but he dies as a hero raiding illegal gambling and risking His life while those gamblers are still having their enjoyable gambling till now.
This is a rampant gambling in Philippines and i hate to admit but it looks like unstoppable and since i was a child same situation that i brought up and governments can't do anything about that.
raiding today and tomorrow they are back in track.


Title: Re: Death during illegal cockfighting raid
Post by: Wexnident on October 30, 2020, 09:54:32 AM
Was there no one to perform first aid to the police? I'm not too or rather, not really familiar with how blood loss works, but I think you can put pressure in the arteries to stop the continuous blood flow. Not sure if it works in this particular artery though. Also, was the police not informed that the roosters have said "Tari"? I'm pretty sure that the lead officer of sorts should've briefed them of what's what in there. I mean, I'm pretty sure this isn't their first raid of illegal cockfighting dens, and I'm pretty sure that at one point or another, they've seen said "Tari" and should've known that those things are dangerous, especially since they're dealing with roosters here which are pretty difficult to get under control once it starts panicking.

A pity to the police who died. Could've honestly prevented it with enough safety precautions available.


Title: Re: Death during illegal cockfighting raid
Post by: rodskee on October 30, 2020, 10:20:56 AM
~snip
^ sad to hear there a victim died in the raid on cockfighting gambling. I think why the police were not wearing special clothes at the time of the raid, is he trivial!
Lol special clothes?who knows that the Cock can hit police that bad and this is a legit operation that needs to be conducted quickly because these Guerilla gambling can be out in any time,meaning the betting can stand only for minutes or just an hour so must be operated faster to take the gamblers into the bars.
^ in developing countries, cockfighting is still a favorite of local gamblers because of the high profits and high prices of fighting cocks.
Actually there are legal cockfighting tournament in the philippines its just happen that these illegal operators loves to Cheat in paying obligation in government so they run these kind of gambling.


Title: Re: Death during illegal cockfighting raid
Post by: bitbunnny on October 30, 2020, 10:29:57 AM
It was an accident yes but it could have been avoided if only the organizer follows the protocol there wouldn't have been a raid.
I feel sorry for the Police officers family they lost him because of the people who didn't follow the law.

Exactly, it was completely tragic and unnecessary death that could have been avoided.
I"m strongly against any kind of animals fight and betting on that so I think that gamblers shouldn't support such cruel and illegal activities. Even if maybe they are legal or tolerated in some countries they should be banned.


Title: Re: Death during illegal cockfighting raid
Post by: hahay on October 30, 2020, 11:02:21 AM
If cockfighting is allowed in the area then why do the raids as I think it would be better to give advance warning, since the problem or the breach here is just ignoring protocol. If the initial warning is indeed ignored, then the next step is to carry out the raid with more preparedness I think this incident might be avoided.
I don't know if the use of "tari" is allowed or not, because if the problem is just ignoring the protocol, I'm not sure that initially legal cockfighting could become illegal just because it ignored the protocol.


Title: Re: Death during illegal cockfighting raid
Post by: qory on October 30, 2020, 11:05:41 AM
Exactly, it was completely tragic and unnecessary death that could have been avoided.
I"m strongly against any kind of animals fight and betting on that so I think that gamblers shouldn't support such cruel and illegal activities. Even if maybe they are legal or tolerated in some countries they should be banned.

Me too I'm not really a fan of animal fighting just for the sake of entertainment and gambling isn't that it's too cruel? Sorry to hear about the officer who lost his life.


Title: Re: Death during illegal cockfighting raid
Post by: Botnake on October 30, 2020, 11:38:47 AM
I didn't know that they have some sharp knife like that I thought they were just like fighting until one is exhausted. Well it's too bad for police for what happened it looks like this is a dangerous type of gambling not just for the animals that was killed every fight but also to humans who could really dealt serious damage or fatality.
It's risky for human but gamblers in the ring know how to handle this as they have been doing this for years, the raid is just different, it made people panic and these animals as well, and that could the reason why an officer was hit by a blade. This type of game is very popular in the Philippines reason why we are still seeing a lot of violators despite of the huge penalty impose to them.

For some, this type of game will fall to animal cruelty or something but chicken for them are not considered as pets.

It vary from country to country as some country may declare this illegal but other countries like Philippines are proud of this sports if we can qualify this.


Title: Re: Death during illegal cockfighting raid
Post by: covfefe_ on October 30, 2020, 12:19:08 PM
I too had heard that cock fighting is popular in Philippines but didn't knew that was this crazy. Where there are gamblers involved, they take it to the next level. I too recently found out that there are cock fighting tournaments in my country too. These cocks are really dangerous and they are a completely different breed raised just for fight. A single of them on average costs about $2K here. They eat about 2 kilos of meat a day. Surely they are lethal.


Title: Re: Death during illegal cockfighting raid
Post by: YuginKadoya on October 30, 2020, 12:31:28 PM
I was truly shocked hearing this news and I can not believe that a fighting cock would have ended killing a grown man apart from killing an opponent cock! that policeman that gathering evidence end up hitting by the Tari (the sharp object that was equipped on the cock as a weapon) on the thigh part and hitting the femoral artery a sensitive vein that continually losses his blood and killing the cop in the process,

This is all an accident but it can be avoided if this illegal cockfighting was not in place and if there are no people violating the rules when their place was under the strict policy of no illegal gambling, So sad in hearing this news and I am truly sorry for the family.


Title: Re: Death during illegal cockfighting raid
Post by: pinggoki on October 30, 2020, 12:42:35 PM
I've also heard and watch that news from the Philippines and that's normal in the cockpit zone because if you know what is the situation inside the cockpit area then probably you also know how the bet game is occurring on it aside from this what so called "Tari" which is a dangerous and sharp object which is putting to the chicken in order to fight and kill the opposite chicken to win the bet game.
I believe that it is not just a "tari" but there is also a illegal chemical that has been put in the sharp object and that's why it kills people.


Title: Re: Death during illegal cockfighting raid
Post by: btc78 on October 30, 2020, 12:45:38 PM
This is normal in cockfighting arena in which the Cocks goes wild when there is a raid or attacking those people closes to them.
and with that sharp Metal in Their feet surely it can harm or kill people if not aware of this.
So sorry for the loss and hope this will never happen again,next time try to input more safeties when dealing with cocks.


Title: Re: Death during illegal cockfighting raid
Post by: arwin100 on October 30, 2020, 12:53:17 PM
If cockfighting is allowed in the area then why do the raids as I think it would be better to give advance warning, since the problem or the breach here is just ignoring protocol. If the initial warning is indeed ignored, then the next step is to carry out the raid with more preparedness I think this incident might be avoided.
I don't know if the use of "tari" is allowed or not, because if the problem is just ignoring the protocol, I'm not sure that initially legal cockfighting could become illegal just because it ignored the protocol.

Warning is not enough to the offender since even if you warn them they will just monitor the cops and play once they are out on the vicinity that's why there are surprise raids since even if there's a pandemic the illegal cock fighting still going on secluded places or slum areas.


Title: Re: Death during illegal cockfighting raid
Post by: Vaculin on October 30, 2020, 01:05:06 PM
If cockfighting is allowed in the area then why do the raids as I think it would be better to give advance warning, since the problem or the breach here is just ignoring protocol. If the initial warning is indeed ignored, then the next step is to carry out the raid with more preparedness I think this incident might be avoided.
I don't know if the use of "tari" is allowed or not, because if the problem is just ignoring the protocol, I'm not sure that initially legal cockfighting could become illegal just because it ignored the protocol.

Warning is not enough to the offender since even if you warn them they will just monitor the cops and play once they are out on the vicinity that's why there are surprise raids since even if there's a pandemic the illegal cock fighting still going on secluded places or slum areas.


AFAIK there is a punishment for the offenders as this is against the law.

 Cockfighting still not allowed in GCQ, MGCQ areas — DILG
 (https://newsinfo.inquirer.net/1286864/cockfighting-still-not-allowed-in-gcq-mgcq-areas-dilg)
If they got caught, they will be jailed but they can still post a bail, and the bail is really high, but this one is quite different as someone died and coming from the authorities which for sure they will make sure somebody will end up in jail.


Title: Re: Death during illegal cockfighting raid
Post by: boyptc on October 30, 2020, 01:13:18 PM
Very sad that it has to end like that.

I can't imagine how the enforcer got into the arena of the cockfight if he can arrest those organizers outside of it. Whatever the situation is during that time, it's very tragic and heartbreaking that it ended with a death.
 :-\


Title: Re: Death during illegal cockfighting raid
Post by: samputin on October 30, 2020, 01:14:51 PM
I didn't know that they have some sharp knife like that I thought they were just like fighting until one is exhausted. Well it's too bad for police for what happened it looks like this is a dangerous type of gambling not just for the animals that was killed every fight but also to humans who could really dealt serious damage or fatality.
That's how it works here, roosters will have to wear that "tari" (sharp knife) on their feet while fighting. Too bad, it's not the rival rooster that died but the police officer who just did his job to enforce the law. Some might say that there's lack of preparation on the police but if the organizers didn't let this thing happen (especially in the midst of the pandemic), life wouldn't be taken. It might be the rooster and it's tari that caused the death but there must be someone held accountable—and that's not gonna be the rooster for sure.


Title: Re: Death during illegal cockfighting raid
Post by: shoreno on October 30, 2020, 01:15:42 PM
this is a horrible way of death he got killed by an animal and not by a person because theres also cases that authorities are being killed by the illegal operators and their protectors if theres someone that tries to raid thier nest  .

 not to be mean but i feel that illegal operators and gamblers did like what happen to the officer because thier small enjoyment got disrupted at an earlier time but some of the gambling participants still do have a soul to feel bad and feel sorry to the casualty


Title: Re: Death during illegal cockfighting raid
Post by: plvbob0070 on October 30, 2020, 01:16:36 PM
I first heard about this news because it's becoming a meme on social media. But I never expect that this kind of situation will happen that police will die in a raid because of the rooster. But the real issue is that people will still illegally gamble and organize cockfighting even if they know that it's illegal due to the protocols implemented. Also, it's sad that someone who's just doing his job died in this event when he could have lived if they did not disobey the protocol.


Title: Re: Death during illegal cockfighting raid
Post by: Botnake on October 30, 2020, 01:25:01 PM
I first heard about this news because it's becoming a meme on social media. But I never expect that this kind of situation will happen that police will die in a raid because of the rooster. But the real issue is that people will still illegally gamble and organize cockfighting even if they know that it's illegal due to the protocols implemented. Also, it's sad that someone who's just doing his job died in this event when he could have lived if they did not disobey the protocol.
If people were obedient, there will be no raid, but that's life, there are violators and police are just trying to do their job.

Maybe they expect it would happen, the roster killed the police, this time the roster got their revenge on a human as they usually are the toys for the humans just to fulfill their gambling entertainment. Honestly, this is the first time I heard a police got killed by a roster during the raid, rare but it happened.


Title: Re: Death during illegal cockfighting raid
Post by: FlightyPouch on October 30, 2020, 02:23:10 PM
I read this in an article and a post on Facebook. Even though cockfighting is illegal in the country because it doesn't follow the safety precautions or protocol of this pandemic, people are continuing to do it illegally. This will be the first but I don't think this will be the last since there are a lot of hard-headed cockfighters in our country that badly wanted to bet on their roosters.


Title: Re: Death during illegal cockfighting raid
Post by: Reid on October 30, 2020, 02:31:30 PM
Oh crap!
And now they won't be playing that game anymore since someone died and it was on the part of the authorities.
I am sure his co-officers are now infuriated with this bad news.
It might be considered an accident but it was not supposed to happen if these guys abide by the law.

Condolences to the family of the police officer.
Losing someone during this pandemic is sad and it ain't even because of Covid19.


Title: Re: Death during illegal cockfighting raid
Post by: proTECH77 on October 30, 2020, 03:16:36 PM
I saw the article the reason why the officer took illegal way to save the player that caused him dead. According to their government promised the family of the officer that the will do everything possible to help the victim family.
The cockfighting raid game will continue since the winner is not yet announce by the game official. The way the death of the officer is paining the game official, I don't think they will announce the real winner in this game.


Title: Re: Death during illegal cockfighting raid
Post by: robelneo on October 30, 2020, 03:21:41 PM
According to the chief of police in that area this is the first time that this things happened it's a freak accident the sharp blade made it's way to the arteries of his leg causing heavy loss of blood, it takes a good Kristo or the cockfight referee to handle those cock with a sharp blade properly, it's very unfortunately circumstances because cockfighting is not allowed during a pandemic anywhere else int he Philippines but there are gamblers who are stubborn to gamble.


Title: Re: Death during illegal cockfighting raid
Post by: Becky666 on October 30, 2020, 03:29:38 PM
That's seriously bad news, back in August this year the government banned this illegal gambling in Filipino and some scrupulous individuals took this as advantage to illegally organize a cockfight which has brought to an end the life of a gallant officer. I wouldn't blame the officers but those whom derive pleasure in going against what the government banned. May his gentle soul rest in perfect peace.


Title: Re: Death during illegal cockfighting raid
Post by: NeilLostBitCoin on October 30, 2020, 03:37:32 PM
According to the chief of police in that area this is the first time that this things happened it's a freak accident the sharp blade made it's way to the arteries of his leg causing heavy loss of blood, it takes a good Kristo or the cockfight referee to handle those cock with a sharp blade properly, it's very unfortunately circumstances because cockfighting is not allowed during a pandemic anywhere else int he Philippines but there are gamblers who are stubborn to gamble.
Hahaha no wonder most of the Filipinos are hard headed even if we are facing this Covid19 pandemic they can still manage to play illegal cock fights and etc. because it is the source of income of most of indigenous people in the Philippines most especially on the low lying areas, barrios and informal settlers' area. And they aren't that afraid to the authorities co'z they know how to escape when they caught.


Title: Re: Death during illegal cockfighting raid
Post by: Findingnemo on October 30, 2020, 05:30:11 PM
You can't avoid accidents, yes here the death might not occurred if these illegal things were completely stopped but money speaks more to the government so people bribe and make the illegal things so much common.



People maybe got panic, they run over knowing there is a raid so did the chickens, unfortunately the chicken already wearing a "tari" or blade, and when there's panic, chickens gets panicked as well, maybe these policemen was not properly oriented on how to ensure safety on their raid.

It's unfortunate to see this kind of news that the authorities are the ones who suffered instead of the people violating.


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At least in future these kind of things can be avoided by giving proper protocol to organize these games if these games are completely unstoppable even after banning them
This game will not be ban for sure, it's only temporarily ban due to the pandemic.
AFAIK cock fighting is still legal in Phillipines but most of the cock fights were organized illegally that is why authorities are struggling to control it. Police also need to have proper training to handle this and if this is normal happening in that country then better to have separate team for it


Title: Re: Death during illegal cockfighting raid
Post by: aioc on October 30, 2020, 05:55:19 PM


Warning is not enough to the offender since even if you warn them they will just monitor the cops and play once they are out on the vicinity that's why there are surprise raids since even if there's a pandemic the illegal cock fighting still going on secluded places or slum areas.


They should be given a lesson and this is by filing a charges and putting them in prison because they are violating a lot of laws about quarantine, once they put these violators in prison  many will learned their lesson, it's time to be strict on this matters now that there is a policeman that's been killed.


Title: Re: Death during illegal cockfighting raid
Post by: fiulpro on October 30, 2020, 06:02:35 PM


Warning is not enough to the offender since even if you warn them they will just monitor the cops and play once they are out on the vicinity that's why there are surprise raids since even if there's a pandemic the illegal cock fighting still going on secluded places or slum areas.


They should be given a lesson and this is by filing a charges and putting them in prison because they are violating a lot of laws about quarantine, once they put these violators in prison  many will learned their lesson, it's time to be strict on this matters now that there is a policeman that's been killed.

Not only that there were no timely backup and even the officers were not well educated regarding the first aid . This way very easily preventable.


First of all:
 This is animal abuse, it should be banned in the first place. Even if people are doing it illegally one should inform the police in advance.
Now secondly:
 If the femoral artery was cut why weren't other officers trained well enough to just use compression to stop bleeding, literally! This is horrible.
Now thirdly:
Please refrain for any such activities, it is horrible and should be banned 🚫 forever using better strategies and making sure that these people are interrogated well enough to find the whole web.



Title: Re: Death during illegal cockfighting raid
Post by: ecnalubma on October 30, 2020, 06:08:09 PM
Cock fighting should be banned, there are lots of unfortunate events happened  in cock fighting arenas trough out the country also most people go to cockpit arenas are average persons and common labourers. Instead of using the money for their family needs they are more tempted to gamble.


Title: Re: Death during illegal cockfighting raid
Post by: AbuBhakar on October 30, 2020, 06:12:49 PM
Cock fighting should be banned, there are lots of unfortunate events happened  in cock fighting arenas trough out the country also most people go to cockpit arenas are average persons and common labourers. Instead of using the money for their family needs they are more tempted to gamble.
Some of them were too focus on feeding their cock to fight that they forget about their family due to these addiction in betting as well fighting their cock. It's sad that the officer who is only doing his job got to experience this due to the illegal casino or arena operation, it's not just illegal but also produces crowd that is not following social distancing this time of Covid. The government should be stricter in allowing these games to happen again.


Title: Re: Death during illegal cockfighting raid
Post by: CaVO32 on October 30, 2020, 09:01:12 PM


Warning is not enough to the offender since even if you warn them they will just monitor the cops and play once they are out on the vicinity that's why there are surprise raids since even if there's a pandemic the illegal cock fighting still going on secluded places or slum areas.


They should be given a lesson and this is by filing a charges and putting them in prison because they are violating a lot of laws about quarantine, once they put these violators in prison  many will learned their lesson, it's time to be strict on this matters now that there is a policeman that's been killed.

Not only that there were no timely backup and even the officers were not well educated regarding the first aid . This way very easily preventable.


First of all:
 This is animal abuse, it should be banned in the first place. Even if people are doing it illegally one should inform the police in advance.
Now secondly:
 If the femoral artery was cut why weren't other officers trained well enough to just use compression to stop bleeding, literally! This is horrible.
Now thirdly:
Please refrain for any such activities, it is horrible and should be banned 🚫 forever using better strategies and making sure that these people are interrogated well enough to find the whole web.



Cockfighting has already been in their culture so you can't eradicate this game. There are some legal cockfights also, but this one definitely was illegally held. Now, I can't also fathom why the officer bled to death without any help? This should have been stopped even at the site of accident. No one, just literally no one knows basic first aid? Even police personnel undergoes first aid training. So I don't really know why this unfortunate situation happened?


Title: Re: Death during illegal cockfighting raid
Post by: Mahanton on October 30, 2020, 09:19:17 PM
Well aware about that "tari" or some sharp blade that needs to be worn by a cock for the fight and this is where things do becomes excited and this had been known for decades
on this kind of gambling.Thing here is that they have done it on a very bad situation where crowd shouldnt really be tolerated due to corona virus but those organizers were just
to greedy and decide not to follow up those protocols.In result? its just right for them to be jailed or have some serious amount of fine.Its just sad that one of the
police out there had wasted up his life just because of this illegal gambling operation. Animals shouldnt really be blamed of though because its just natural that they would move
out. The police hadnt just be too careful with those sharp blades.


Title: Re: Death during illegal cockfighting raid
Post by: BlackFor3st on October 30, 2020, 09:23:04 PM
I feel bad to what happen to the police officer but as a police they should know already that they will remain very careful anytime they
do a raid and of course in picking the evidence as I can see that the police are picking the rooster to serve as evidence.

The roosters were wearing a sharp blade so you can't just pick them casually instead you will pick them carefully to avoid this kind of
accident to happen. Losing of blood loss that results to death, authorities should shapen their fangs against the organizers of illegal cockfighting
in order to avoid this kind of happenings to happen again.


Title: Re: Death during illegal cockfighting raid
Post by: goinmerry on October 30, 2020, 09:42:47 PM
No offense but how does this news become related to gambling and cryptocurrency in general?

That's a raid, nothing new about that. PH authorities are always conducting a raid, almost everyday. It's just that on that particular raid, something bad happened so it came to the news. The death was caused by an accident.

I think there's no need for further discussion about this.


Title: Re: Death during illegal cockfighting raid
Post by: Oasisman on October 30, 2020, 10:09:55 PM
No offense but how does this news become related to gambling and cryptocurrency in general?

Exactly, but we can somehow relate this to crypto gambling by discussing how we can promote "online cock-fighting" betting that are also available for crypto betting.
This serves an example of how risky cock fighting is specially when cocks with "tari" are out of control, the sharp blade could kill anyone inside the event.
I know there were websites that offers online cock fighting, but I guess it wasn't that popular for the hardcore gamblers, that's why these people are still operating illegal cock fighting tournaments.


Title: Re: Death during illegal cockfighting raid
Post by: goinmerry on October 30, 2020, 10:25:06 PM
No offense but how does this news become related to gambling and cryptocurrency in general?
Exactly, but we can somehow relate this to crypto gambling by discussing how we can promote "online cock-fighting" betting that are also available for crypto betting.

Currently, there's no legal cockfighting in PH as it was prohibited so it's risky to promote those online tupada here. Every site we saw that offered cockfighting betting in PH should not be supported as it's risky.

I also known some of the online tupada that running illegaly here in PH. I've also play before as one of my friend do have an admin access. Not promoted it here since they don't accept crypto payment which is obvious and I don't want others to take the risks because of the pandemic. Better gambled at legal websites if they really want to gamble.


Title: Re: Death during illegal cockfighting raid
Post by: Oasisman on October 30, 2020, 11:13:00 PM
No offense but how does this news become related to gambling and cryptocurrency in general?
Exactly, but we can somehow relate this to crypto gambling by discussing how we can promote "online cock-fighting" betting that are also available for crypto betting.

Currently, there's no legal cockfighting in PH as it was prohibited so it's risky to promote those online tupada here. Every site we saw that offered cockfighting betting in PH should not be supported as it's risky.

I also known some of the online tupada that running illegaly here in PH. I've also play before as one of my friend do have an admin access. Not promoted it here since they don't accept crypto payment which is obvious and I don't want others to take the risks because of the pandemic. Better gambled at legal websites if they really want to gamble.

Oh I'm sorry I thought those gambling websites were legal because it was being mentioned in our local news, well maybe because I'm not a fan of tupada, and I don't know much about sabong lol.
I've heard there were cock fighting websites that accepts Bitcoin before, I'm not sure if that was legit, but base on your statement, there might be no website existed.

Therefore, I may not going to recommend online cock fighting then If it was illegally operated, and I may recheck this websites again to  make sure that I didn't miss any details.
Thanks for the info kabayan.


Title: Re: Death during illegal cockfighting raid
Post by: Viscore on October 30, 2020, 11:27:08 PM
I think this is the first time that a law officer has died because of that blade used for cockfighting.
How sad is that we need to lose the life of a person( a law enforcer)to make people stop illegal cockfighting. How do these people realize their wrongdoing instead of keeping themselves at home during this pandemic?

The illegal gambling activities in the Philippines have sprung around, authorities hardly to stop them because they are also smart to hide from them and that sad reality is that, some government officers are the one that protects them or even run those illegal gambling. So it is impossible to stop these things.


Title: Re: Death during illegal cockfighting raid
Post by: blockman on October 30, 2020, 11:48:07 PM
No offense but how does this news become related to gambling and cryptocurrency in general?

Exactly, but we can somehow relate this to crypto gambling by discussing how we can promote "online cock-fighting" betting that are also available for crypto betting.
It can be related to gambling in general but in crypto, there's no relation. I haven't seen any online cockfight that accepts crypto. But I see online cockfights that are only accepting fiat I am not sure if they are permitted although cockfight is allowed in some parts but that's only in physical arenas not online.
IIRC, online casinos that are based in our country still has problems in operation due to government rules. Btw, rest in peace to the police officer. They will take safety precaution next time if they are about to raid again in the future.

And now they won't be playing that game anymore since someone died and it was on the part of the authorities.
No, but they will only continue and would look for another place that's hidden.


Title: Re: Death during illegal cockfighting raid
Post by: uray on October 30, 2020, 11:54:34 PM
I just watched a local news ( Philippines) where a police officer died during a raid of an illegal cockfight. as some of you might know the rooster on a cockfight has to wear a piece of an extremely
sharp blade called "tari" (photo below) while ifghting. according to the news, the officer's femoral artery was cut after being attack by one of the roosters in the cockfight that has tari attached to its legs. the officer was brought to the hospital but was announced dead on arrival due to blood loss.
It is a really unfortunate news, but i wonder whether they raided the place without having any protective measures as the officer bleed to death, why it took a long time for them to take him to the hospital when the incident happened or was there any resistance in taking him. Whatever it may be it is a brutal way to die.


Title: Re: Death during illegal cockfighting raid
Post by: harizen on October 30, 2020, 11:56:50 PM
Oh I'm sorry I thought those gambling websites were legal because it was being mentioned in our local news, well maybe because I'm not a fan of tupada, and I don't know much about sabong lol.

I don't know these gambling websites featuring sabong but as of the current guidelines of IATF, cockfighting is still prohibited to operate. Cockfighting is legal in PH country but because of the pandemic, they are not allowed to operate so any operation regarding that will be tagged as illegal.

I read that news before but decided not to share it here since it doesn't involve any crypto.

Therefore, I may not going to recommend online cock fighting then If it was illegally operated, and I may recheck this websites again to  make sure that I didn't miss any details.

May I know these websites? I'm not aware of this.

PM me since the sites might be illegal lol.


Title: Re: Death during illegal cockfighting raid
Post by: dothebeats on October 31, 2020, 12:38:38 AM
I usually am seeing these folks whenever I have to go to our HQ somewhere south. I think it’s somewhat allowed in a certain city to hold cockfights but not on the place where the raid occurred. Death by that blade on the rooster’s feet/claws is really inevitable if everyone is scrambling to run in order to avoid jail time. That’s a sharp blade after all, created for the sole purpose of harming the enemy. It is an unfortunate event, but you still see the dedication of some people to gamble even if it’s illegal in their area.


Title: Re: Death during illegal cockfighting raid
Post by: Serious475 on October 31, 2020, 01:31:41 AM
I just watched a local news ( Philippines) where a police officer died during a raid of an illegal cockfight. as some of you might know the rooster on a cockfight has to wear a piece of an extremely
sharp blade called "tari" (photo below) while ifghting. according to the news, the officer's femoral artery was cut after being attack by one of the roosters in the cockfight that has tari attached to its legs. the officer was brought to the hospital but was announced dead on arrival due to blood loss.

the news said that the authorities were able to capture 6 of the organizer but there are still looking for 3 more people who were able to escaped during the raid.

one of the infuriating part here is that cockfighting was allowed in the area if organizers followed proper procedure and health protocol in order to legally operate during this pandemic. but these bastards decided fuck the law. and now their stupidity and lack of following the protocols resulted to someone's death.

https://i.imgur.com/TaldtHE.jpg source (https://jnv-gaff-enterprise-tari-shop.business.site/)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gNR8evtnc2k&t=1s
Cock fighting is not completely illegal in Philippines because there are lot of legal cockpit there and that is the legal place to gamble for cock fighting. The incident surely occurs on illegal cock fighting since it is raided by the police. All of the cock pit right now is closed due to pandemic so there is a reason why do police officers are raiding illegal cock fighting. Those fucktards are what we called gambling addicts that cannot be stopped even by the pandemic. It it's ok to gamble but don't get addicted.


Title: Re: Death during illegal cockfighting raid
Post by: xSkylarx on October 31, 2020, 02:53:01 AM
I usually am seeing these folks whenever I have to go to our HQ somewhere south. I think it’s somewhat allowed in a certain city to hold cockfights but not on the place where the raid occurred. Death by that blade on the rooster’s feet/claws is really inevitable if everyone is scrambling to run in order to avoid jail time. That’s a sharp blade after all, created for the sole purpose of harming the enemy. It is an unfortunate event, but you still see the dedication of some people to gamble even if it’s illegal in their area.

Gamblers will always find a way to do their habit. Even here in our place, the local government said it's illegal and they will face some violations if they are caught doing it. That didn't stop them and they are gambling inside their houses. No one reports them because most of them are addicted gamblers. I want to report them but I'm suspecting that a worker inside our government is one of them.


Title: Re: Death during illegal cockfighting raid
Post by: TitanGEL on October 31, 2020, 03:17:10 AM
I feel bad to what happen to the police officer but as a police they should know already that they will remain very careful anytime they
do a raid and of course in picking the evidence as I can see that the police are picking the rooster to serve as evidence.

The roosters were wearing a sharp blade so you can't just pick them casually instead you will pick them carefully to avoid this kind of
accident to happen. Losing of blood loss that results to death, authorities should shapen their fangs against the organizers of illegal cockfighting
in order to avoid this kind of happenings to happen again.
The thing is, it cannot be stopped even the law enforcers will become more strict in terms of implementing rules in cockfighting. In my area, cockfighting is just normal to see; I considered it as illegal because they do not have permit and a lot of people outside of my home are gathering even if there is still a pandemic. We are having doubts sometimes because there are many of them and of course I'm afraid to be infected of the covid 19 virus. The illegal cockfighting will never be stop because there is money on there and a lot of people are relying to get income from it. The illegal cockfighting will only be stopped if the individuals who are part of it have self discipline and respect to follow the rules and laws that the law enforcers are implementing. It is so sad to hear a news that there is a certain law enforcers who lost his life because of a certain accident, I really agree that they should be new protocols in order to not see this incident again in the near future.


Title: Re: Death during illegal cockfighting raid
Post by: Janation on October 31, 2020, 03:47:35 AM
That was unfortunate.

Condolences to his family. Just imagine doing your job and have been killed since some people can't hold their addiction to bet their money on this cockfighting. In my opinion, these people won't stop. They would continue to illegally hold these kinds of cockfighting to some secluded areas that may be farther from this law enforcement to do their vices. Despite the pandemic, they still do this?


Title: Re: Death during illegal cockfighting raid
Post by: BuNga_cute on October 31, 2020, 04:28:21 AM
I am sorry to hear that the police officer died while carrying out his duties, it seemed that the policeman was not alert enough that
he could be attacked by the rooster. I've seen a sharp blade called TARI, which is commonly used for cockfighting gambling, is very
sharp and very dangerous. So if it is exposed to any part of the human body it can be fatal or can cause death. Hopefully the police
deaths that occurred in the Philippines when illegal cockfighting arrests can be a lesson for other police officers, to be more vigilant
and must wear complete safety equipment. So make police officers can avoid things that are dangerous.


Title: Re: Death during illegal cockfighting raid
Post by: LogitechMouse on October 31, 2020, 06:23:56 AM
No offense but how does this news become related to gambling and cryptocurrency in general?

That's a raid, nothing new about that. PH authorities are always conducting a raid, almost everyday. It's just that on that particular raid, something bad happened so it came to the news. The death was caused by an accident.

I think there's no need for further discussion about this.
Not related to cryptocurrency yes but still related to gambling :D.

I think you're right. The accident has been done. We already shared our condolences to the police (even though no one in his family will see it obviously) and shared our opinions regarding the incident. Its time for the OP to lock the thread.


Title: Re: Death during illegal cockfighting raid
Post by: Saisher on October 31, 2020, 07:39:51 AM
I am sorry to hear that the police officer died while carrying out his duties, it seemed that the policeman was not alert enough that
he could be attacked by the rooster. I've seen a sharp blade called TARI, which is commonly used for cockfighting gambling, is very
sharp and very dangerous.
I also seen one and it's very dangerous not everyone without a proper training can do it like a Kristo, they know how to properly handle a rooster with a sharp blade, they are trained to do that I would not even go near a rooster with a sharp blade on it, anyway condolemce to the policeman I hope those caught eill be fine, and if there is imprisonement they should go to prison, but it's not the fault of the policeman, he's just doing his duty.


Title: Re: Death during illegal cockfighting raid
Post by: ReiMomo on October 31, 2020, 08:14:03 AM
How sad story, the police law enforcer was trying to stop illegal activities like this cockfighting but it ends up he was a victim after all.
I don't know what is the whole story happened but I'm thinking that it was only an accident. Poor police enforcer, I guess he did not know how to handle a fighter cock and it was accidentally hit the metal spurs on the chicken, it is very sharp and as I heard, sometimes it has a poison that the rooster will easily die once it is hit by the very sharp metal on the leg.


Title: Re: Death during illegal cockfighting raid
Post by: Chrystora123 on October 31, 2020, 09:18:55 AM
WTF!! what did those around that police do, why didn't anyone try to stop the bleeding that hit the policeman?  It took 45 - 60 minutes for humans to die from bleeding out of the blood, it seems that the alertness of his friends and the hospital is very slow..  in developing countries cockfighting and bird contests are the prima donnas for making money, the profits that can be very tantalizing, especially for owners of fighting chickens, usually fighting chickens that are rarely KO will be very expensive..


Title: Re: Death during illegal cockfighting raid
Post by: ice098 on October 31, 2020, 10:14:19 AM
No offense but how does this news become related to gambling and cryptocurrency in general?

Exactly, but we can somehow relate this to crypto gambling by discussing how we can promote "online cock-fighting" betting that are also available for crypto betting.
This serves an example of how risky cock fighting is specially when cocks with "tari" are out of control, the sharp blade could kill anyone inside the event.
I know there were websites that offers online cock fighting, but I guess it wasn't that popular for the hardcore gamblers, that's why these people are still operating illegal cock fighting tournaments.

As i have known, cockfighting were really illegal gambling and policeman were doing raid to it almost everyday but then non of the government police officers could make it stop. And hence, online cockfighting gambling were already available. Well for some point it is much safer to play bets in online cockfighting to avoid such sudden accidents but maybe for some gambler they would be much enjoyable to watch a live cockfighting than watching it in a screen.


Title: Re: Death during illegal cockfighting raid
Post by: Mahdirakib on October 31, 2020, 10:27:01 AM
~snip~
the news said that the authorities were able to capture 6 of the organizer but there are still looking for 3 more people who were able to escaped during the raid. ~
Whatever happened was really unexpected. Don't know why people arrange these type of bloody game, :( no matter it's between human or animals. Life is more valuable than money. I have read the news in newspaper of our country. One in our local language (https://m.somoynews.tv/pages/details/243824) and another one is English newspaper (https://www.thedailystar.net/offbeat/news/fighting-cock-kills-police-chief-philippine-raid-1985085). In both place I have found that authorities arrested three people. And they discharged other three suspects. It means they haven't captured 6 organizer.


Title: Re: Death during illegal cockfighting raid
Post by: Ryker1 on October 31, 2020, 12:35:14 PM
Well, for me, -- I must agree that illegal gambling must be stopped but not at all cost when life can be at stake, though law enforcement barely knew that their life is already at stake after deciding to become part of it. I know that it won't happen if the cockfighting is legal no raids will be conducted and no individual will die because of these but it is not the cockfighting that shall be blamed instead of those people who keep on doing such illegal activities.

I know this better because I came from the Philippines and cockfighting is common here, you can see it everywhere especially in the rural areas and they are doing it for the money and sometimes just for fun by boasting to others that their rooster is better than the other in other words, it is already part of our culture the "sarimanok" try to search the image in google and you will see that the image was rooted from the Philippines. Going back to the topic raids couldn't be conducted in uniform for they should pretend as an ordinary person or one of the bettors because if they did then no illegal cockfighting will be held in the arena or in other places.


Title: Re: Death during illegal cockfighting raid
Post by: FlightyPouch on October 31, 2020, 12:39:07 PM
Cock fighting should be banned, there are lots of unfortunate events happened  in cock fighting arenas trough out the country also most people go to cockpit arenas are average persons and common labourers. Instead of using the money for their family needs they are more tempted to gamble.

That is so common in our country. I don't even know what are they thinking whenever they bet so big while they can't actually take that loss since usually after that they would just beg to winners. People should really consider betting something or amounts that they could lose, they should not just hope that money would be bigger after betting since that could end badly.


Title: Re: Death during illegal cockfighting raid
Post by: Fortify on October 31, 2020, 12:40:02 PM
It's very sad to see that a sport like cockfighting is considered one of the favorite sports of any country in the modern era. It is so barbaric and should have been made illegal many years, you are basically betting on the death of at least one animal as a form of entertainment. These birds are instilled with so much fear and are treated like dirt, no wonder the Philippines ends up with a person like dictator Duerte in charge. Any civilized society would outlaw this sort of cruelty as one step towards improving their society. RIP to the police officer involved.


Title: Re: Death during illegal cockfighting raid
Post by: Fundamentals Of on October 31, 2020, 12:46:51 PM
Those who violated the law by organizing the illegal cockfighting should also be the ones to face responsibility over the death of the police officer. The man shouldn't have died a useless death if they were not disregarding the law.

I think even the local leaders should also face responsibility for failing to control their own constituents. They should be the very first people who have made efforts not just to stop the event but also to make sure it won't proceed the moment the event was about to start.

On the other hand, the police officer was also a little careless in handling a bladed fighting cock.


Title: Re: Death during illegal cockfighting raid
Post by: Cacingkemi on October 31, 2020, 02:03:09 PM
it is bad to see that this is still called a sport and that you can put it on, but it will also have to do with culture. if it's legalized somewhere, there's little you can do about it.
a lot of money is secretly still bet on something


Title: Re: Death during illegal cockfighting raid
Post by: Ridwan Fauzi on October 31, 2020, 02:04:33 PM
This is really insane and even this is the worst thing to see. I don't understand why they use a sharp object for animal and they bet for it. However this is unacceptable, I hope that gambling that uses such practices will disappear. They should find another gambling place that really safe and make them comfortable when they are gambling. Like online gambling, they just have a little risk at least they will not sacrifice themselves for a gamble. I agree to support everyone involved in such gambling to be punished, not only for illegal gambling but they should be punished with the death of the policeman.


Title: Re: Death during illegal cockfighting raid
Post by: AicecreaME on October 31, 2020, 02:20:02 PM
I think that the police who came to the chicken gambling place were unprepared and in full uniform and unarmed, that should not have happened, if you used full uniform when attacked by chickens you could be protected.
that is one of the problems here in the Philippines. majority of public servants like police, military, firefighter, etc.. lack proper equipment. I agree that this thing should have never happened if they have proper gear while conducting raids whether it might be a minor raid or a major raid.

Also police here our country do lacks of so many things, mainly is about physical health and proper body training like going to the gym or in a martial art gym to have proper knowledge when making a raid. As you can tell, police officers here don't care about their physical health, mostly those who have higher ranks which only eats and eats as much as they can.

Or sometimes, they are too busy sitting their asses in their chair or offices in the whole day without doing anything. So when performing a raid, whether it's about illegal gambling or a buy bust operation, mostly criminals outrun them because they get easily exhausted running due to lack of stamina.

So I hope they will take a serious action about what I said to avoid sudden (lame) deaths.


Title: Re: Death during illegal cockfighting raid
Post by: Distinctin on October 31, 2020, 02:56:28 PM
Cockfighting is actually legal in the Philippines, we can see it published also on television but somehow, some gamblers made it wrongly where they run such a thing without permits that turn it illegal. The authorities are hunting these illegal activities because of the pandemic situation as they implementing the right healthy protocols in which physical distancing has not been followed.

The sad thing is that someone had to lose their lives because of that raid which is supposed not to happen if they don't make that stupid thing. Nobody expecting this for sure and that is very unfortunate, and those people could realize what they have done and must repay their mistakes.


Title: Re: Death during illegal cockfighting raid
Post by: XCANA on October 31, 2020, 03:05:23 PM
~snip~
the news said that the authorities were able to capture 6 of the organizer but there are still looking for 3 more people who were able to escaped during the raid. ~
Whatever happened was really unexpected. Don't know why people arrange these type of bloody game, :( no matter it's between human or animals. Life is more valuable than money. I have read the news in newspaper of our country. One in our local language (https://m.somoynews.tv/pages/details/243824) and another one is English newspaper (https://www.thedailystar.net/offbeat/news/fighting-cock-kills-police-chief-philippine-raid-1985085). In both place I have found that authorities arrested three people. And they discharged other three suspects. It means they haven't captured 6 organizer.
Yes they haven't arrested the 6 but hopefully at this time they would be able to put an end to this illegal gambling in Philippine. This even was banned in the land but some addict gamblers don't want this horrible game be a bye-gone in the land but with this event, the Philippine force will end this now that it has claimed one of their officer life abruptly.


Title: Re: Death during illegal cockfighting raid
Post by: plr on October 31, 2020, 03:46:19 PM


The sad thing is that someone had to lose their lives because of that raid which is supposed not to happen if they don't make that stupid thing. Nobody expecting this for sure and that is very unfortunate, and those people could realize what they have done and must repay their mistakes.

The penalty should be double because they violated a law on quarantine, the Philippines has a law in quarantined that the community should follow strictly in this time of pandemic, the saddest thing to read is a government who just doing his duty have to die because of these violators.


Title: Re: Death during illegal cockfighting raid
Post by: TedMosby on October 31, 2020, 04:13:22 PM
We called that thing “taji” in my country (or maybe only in my home village).
Similar incident also happened sometimes here, but no casualities.
Cockfight for betting is illegal here (yeah you can give some money to the pol*ce for this).
However, cockfight for religious  ceremony complimentary is allowed.


Title: Re: Death during illegal cockfighting raid
Post by: VanityWallets2015 on October 31, 2020, 04:17:14 PM
Sorry to hear the death of the officer that is in the operation if only peoples are following the rules I think something like this would never happen.
As I've seen in the image that knife that was attached to the rooster it's really sharp and long and could really kill a person.
I hope this could be a lesson for everyone let's just follow simple rules so accidents like this won't be able to happened again.


Title: Re: Death during illegal cockfighting raid
Post by: target on October 31, 2020, 04:29:25 PM

The sad thing is that someone had to lose their lives because of that raid which is supposed not to happen if they don't make that stupid thing. Nobody expecting this for sure and that is very unfortunate, and those people could realize what they have done and must repay their mistakes.

The penalty should be double because they violated a law on quarantine, the Philippines has a law in quarantined that the community should follow strictly in this time of pandemic, the saddest thing to read is a government who just doing his duty have to die because of these violators.

There is too little details to the news but it was said he was confiscating the bird. https://edition.cnn.com/2020/10/28/asia/christian-bolok-philippines-cockfight-death-scli-intl/index.html

The bird probably fightback and the razor hit his leg.  Seem a freak accident.  Underground cockfighting event like this are held usually in the remote areas and it would take more than an hour to travel to a hospital. The location is the province of Samar which the locationa could be farther.

RIP for Lieutenant Christian Bolok.


Title: Re: Death during illegal cockfighting raid
Post by: Rengga Jati on October 31, 2020, 04:54:37 PM
I just watched a local news ( Philippines) where a police officer died during a raid of an illegal cockfight.
really sorry to hear that.
That is one of the risks of being a police.
And aside from the incident, I focus on the illegal cockfighting raid. In my area, there are also still some illegal cockfighting raids that are done and it is still considered as one of the traditional games. But, if they use betting and money for this, it is different, it is illegal gambling and it is still restricted.
But what I feel so sorry about is that this is still in a pandemic situation, why did they make that illegal raid? This can be such a double criminal done by them


Title: Re: Death during illegal cockfighting raid
Post by: blockman on October 31, 2020, 05:54:51 PM
WTF!! what did those around that police do, why didn't anyone try to stop the bleeding that hit the policeman?  It took 45 - 60 minutes for humans to die from bleeding out of the blood, it seems that the alertness of his friends and the hospital is very slow.
The injury was severe based from op and it's the femoral artery. I'm not an expert in human body and nerves but it seems that because of the sharp blade, that cut his part and ended his life quickly. While looking for some articles how vital and important that part is, it says that it's one of the major arteries in our body. (https://www.healthline.com/human-body-maps/femoral-artery)
Damaging or cutting it will actually lead to a very fatal result that we're not expecting as quick as it is.


Title: Re: Death during illegal cockfighting raid
Post by: Fredomago on October 31, 2020, 06:37:07 PM


The sad thing is that someone had to lose their lives because of that raid which is supposed not to happen if they don't make that stupid thing. Nobody expecting this for sure and that is very unfortunate, and those people could realize what they have done and must repay their mistakes.

The penalty should be double because they violated a law on quarantine, the Philippines has a law in quarantined that the community should follow strictly in this time of pandemic, the saddest thing to read is a government who just doing his duty have to die because of these violators.

It should be like that, PNP should implement more cases against those people who break the law during this pandemic. Life has been loss because of this disrespect.

But knowing how PNP brotherhood have, those people who are involve to this illegal gambling will face cases and have longer stay inside the jail.

Sentence will be applied unless the remains of the said police official shows compassions
with those gamblers, that's the only thing they have for now.


Title: Re: Death during illegal cockfighting raid
Post by: ronaldo40 on October 31, 2020, 06:49:10 PM
it looks like cockfighting is popular in that country it's too bad that people are violating some protocols to gamble, i feel sorry for the officer who's life was sacrificed due to this illegal cockfighting. some gamblers can't really control themselves to gamble and the operators are too greedy to run a illegal games just to earn.


Title: Re: Death during illegal cockfighting raid
Post by: Twentyonepaylots on October 31, 2020, 06:55:14 PM
This is the news that I kept thinking for the past days lol the fact that a lieutenant police is involve in such illegal activity is punishable by law gives me an idea how the other police are involve with many kind of these things too. Anyways, the death of a public servant is sad given that it was a tragic death, femoral artery cut is severe, blood loss will be a lot and hard to give a first aid. If it happened in a legal cockfight arena the owner will shoulder all the expenses of him.


Title: Re: Death during illegal cockfighting raid
Post by: GDragon on October 31, 2020, 08:39:52 PM
Accidents really happens, I've seen it in the news too and even in the social media posts, almost everyone is laughing by the death of the police(he is the chief police btw). It may be hard to believe but it makes me realize how dangerous life is, and how surprising a death would be. It somehow feels like a death inside a horror film right. I don't know why but this is the first time I've heard of a human death caused by a fighting cock. Some gamblers got hit by that sharp blade too but they are just lucky it's just a wound. But this is so unlucky for the police, being hit in a dangerous artery that could cause his death.

There is so much illegal cockfighting here, they called it "topada", some are in train railways, abandoned lot, house and etc. Even during the  start of the quarantine, there are so much news about topada's here.


Title: Re: Death during illegal cockfighting raid
Post by: Shasha80 on October 31, 2020, 08:55:25 PM
The risks as a police officer are indeed great, so the risk of death while carrying out duties is very possible. An accident that occurred in
the Philippines which resulted in the death of a police officer while arresting perpetrators of illegal cockfighting, should be used as a lesson
for all parties. Especially for illegal cockfighting perpetrators who do not comply with the regulations, if they did not break the rules there
would be no death for the police officer.


Title: Re: Death during illegal cockfighting raid
Post by: bisdak40 on November 01, 2020, 12:11:43 AM
Sorry to hear about the death of law enforcers in the Philippines.
That is the responsibility of a law enforcer in eradicating gambling in the Philippines, how can chickens attack a human being, let alone the police, I think that the police who came to the chicken gambling place were unprepared and in full uniform and unarmed, that should not have happened, if you used full uniform when attacked by chickens you could be protected.

This is the worst experience for the police there, killed in cock attack, indeed in the Philippines chicken betting is quite common there, maybe in the future the police will be more careful when carrying out raids, hopefully the same thing won't happen again.

You are correct mate, it's the responsibility of the police officers to eradicate illegal gambling here in the Philippines but i think it's easier said than done as there is too many illegal activities going on here and some have the backings of police officers itself.

That police officer that died during the raid was prepared but not careful enough to handle the chicken. That blade is so sharp that if it hits your vital organ, you are done. Many have died on this kind of accident and this recent one should be a lesson to all involve that this activity is dangerous and police officers should not touch those chickens with blade still on as this mighty fighter would take their life.



Title: Re: Death during illegal cockfighting raid
Post by: pilosopotasyo on November 01, 2020, 10:54:55 AM
The risks as a police officer are indeed great, so the risk of death while carrying out duties is very possible. An accident that occurred in
the Philippines which resulted in the death of a police officer while arresting perpetrators of illegal cockfighting, should be used as a lesson
for all parties. Especially for illegal cockfighting perpetrators who do not comply with the regulations, if they did not break the rules there
would be no death for the police officer.

First time I read a chicken killed a policeman, it's quite disturbing because I know how sharp the blade is I have seen and hold one and it's very sharp I could not imagine the wounds, only a Kristo can hold chicken with that sharp blade, they are trained to do that they know the right timing and the right part to hold and it is not advisable to go near a chicken wearing that sharp blade.


Title: Re: Death during illegal cockfighting raid
Post by: Casdinyard on November 01, 2020, 12:04:14 PM
The risks as a police officer are indeed great, so the risk of death while carrying out duties is very possible. An accident that occurred in
the Philippines which resulted in the death of a police officer while arresting perpetrators of illegal cockfighting, should be used as a lesson
for all parties. Especially for illegal cockfighting perpetrators who do not comply with the regulations, if they did not break the rules there
would be no death for the police officer.

First time I read a chicken killed a policeman, it's quite disturbing because I know how sharp the blade is I have seen and hold one and it's very sharp I could not imagine the wounds, only a Kristo can hold chicken with that sharp blade, they are trained to do that they know the right timing and the right part to hold and it is not advisable to go near a chicken wearing that sharp blade.
Not actually trained but rather experienced with such thing. Despite of being experienced, they were also wounded most of the time by that blade. In this case, there's really nothing much to say than "Accidents really happen". We cannot still say that the violators wanted such accident to happen. They have indeed violated the law but there's no intention of one person, at service, to be killed. The only thing which is not legal in this case is betting. Taking care of chickens are not unless that animal is prohibited.


Title: Re: Death during illegal cockfighting raid
Post by: yazher on November 01, 2020, 02:02:50 PM
The risks as a police officer are indeed great, so the risk of death while carrying out duties is very possible. An accident that occurred in
the Philippines which resulted in the death of a police officer while arresting perpetrators of illegal cockfighting, should be used as a lesson
for all parties. Especially for illegal cockfighting perpetrators who do not comply with the regulations, if they did not break the rules there
would be no death for the police officer.

Also, the policemen should have an idea now how serious is the cock when they still attached with their blade as they are like wild birds that hate to be touch except by their owners. nonetheless, those people who are involved in this illegal activity will also face some charge with the death of the officers because the cause of his death was their foolishness. However, this depends on the judge whether he will add this case to them or not depends on their reasons.


Title: Re: Death during illegal cockfighting raid
Post by: ethereumhunter on November 01, 2020, 02:28:21 PM
I just hope that no officer will get that experience in the future, and if there is another raid like that, they need to secure before it happens again. But I think that accident happens coincidentally, and they don't imagine if that can happen. Maybe the police need to prepare with everything necessary and always take care of themselves. I can not imagine if the blade is attached to their body.


Title: Re: Death during illegal cockfighting raid
Post by: pinggoki on November 01, 2020, 03:13:28 PM
I just hope that no officer will get that experience in the future, and if there is another raid like that, they need to secure before it happens again. But I think that accident happens coincidentally, and they don't imagine if that can happen. Maybe the police need to prepare with everything necessary and always take care of themselves. I can not imagine if the blade is attached to their body.

Everytime that the police are going to a mission or somewhere in order to raid a cockpit area/ gambling area or some drugs related mission, they are offering their lives and they already know that maybe after the mission there are some buddies from there team might get killed accidentally and I believe that they are already aware of it and they are prepared of what ever might happens on their missions, the thing was just they need to be more prepared when they are going to a deadly missions so that there will be no cases like this will happen again.


Title: Re: Death during illegal cockfighting raid
Post by: South Park on November 01, 2020, 05:13:23 PM
Aside from the main issue that it is an illegal cockfighting ring, the death is an accident and it does not have any correlation with the raid. Philippines has a big problem when it comes to this illegal cockfighting ring because a lot of money is involved in this kind of games, even politicians are known to bet on this games. Some are protected by the local authorities because they are bribed. There was once a story where a hitman is hired by a politician to kill the owner of the winning fighter, although it was a long time ago. There have been cases the same as this one that I have known of and by far this is the only time that someone died.
If the police officer died as a result of the raid, which seems to be the case, then it has all to do with the raid, I do not know about the laws on the Philippines but at least in my country if a person dies while a crime is being committed the criminals can be charged with murder, and what is worse is that all of this could have been avoided if the organizers just followed the correct procedure as it seems cockfighting is legal there, this is a tragedy and my best wishes go to the family of the police officer that died.


Title: Re: Death during illegal cockfighting raid
Post by: electronicash on November 01, 2020, 05:13:53 PM
he should just asked someone else to confiscate the chickens.
these roosters are trained all their lives to fight as long it can. as long as it can fight back using its beak the fight in the arena goes on.  since the chicken can still kick, it only mean this is the dominant fighter. shit happens. rip to the police officer.


Title: Re: Death during illegal cockfighting raid
Post by: Twentyonepaylots on November 01, 2020, 05:48:46 PM
he should just asked someone else to confiscate the chickens.
I misunderstood the news coz I didn't read it. My fault.

It's their job to confiscate animals, what they did wrong is that they didn't thought of it fighting back as they are confiscating it, plus the factor that it is a raid, I'm pretty sure they were not wearing any protective gear, just a casual clothes to get in to the arena without people noticing.

these roosters are trained all their lives to fight as long it can. as long as it can fight back using its beak the fight in the arena goes on.  
It's not the beak they these roosters are using to fight, it is the steel blades that they trainers are putting onto them and that's what cut the femoral artery of the police officer. Shit really happens, anytime.


Title: Re: Death during illegal cockfighting raid
Post by: Mahanton on November 01, 2020, 06:51:31 PM
he should just asked someone else to confiscate the chickens.
these roosters are trained all their lives to fight as long it can. as long as it can fight back using its beak the fight in the arena goes on.  since the chicken can still kick, it only mean this is the dominant fighter. shit happens. rip to the police officer.

Who would be the one to confiscate those? They are law enforcers so its just normal that they would be the ones to get those cocks.Its just that police
were just too careless yet those are equipped with blades.If he had been careful on handling it out then he might able to save up his own life.Well,
this do happens and theres nothing you can do when accident do really happen. Feel sad for that police had just wasted up his own life due to
that blade which causes for extreme bleeding.This is also part of the risk when you do really have this kind of job.


Title: Re: Death during illegal cockfighting raid
Post by: BChydro on November 01, 2020, 11:24:58 PM
You are correct mate, it's the responsibility of the police officers to eradicate illegal gambling here in the Philippines but i think it's easier said than done as there is too many illegal activities going on here and some have the backings of police officers itself.
If the police are helping these illegal gambling houses then they will be getting the information when they plan on raiding the place and they could change the set up in a matter of hours.

That police officer that died during the raid was prepared but not careful enough to handle the chicken. That blade is so sharp that if it hits your vital organ, you are done. Many have died on this kind of accident and this recent one should be a lesson to all involve that this activity is dangerous and police officers should not touch those chickens with blade still on as this mighty fighter would take their life.
I never knew that chickens are attached with blades, so is this a death match like the gladiators ;D.


Title: Re: Death during illegal cockfighting raid
Post by: bisdak40 on November 02, 2020, 02:09:18 AM
You are correct mate, it's the responsibility of the police officers to eradicate illegal gambling here in the Philippines but i think it's easier said than done as there is too many illegal activities going on here and some have the backings of police officers itself.
If the police are helping these illegal gambling houses then they will be getting the information when they plan on raiding the place and they could change the set up in a matter of hours.

For the record, i've said that some, not all police officers are protectors of these illegal activities and i agree with you that those bad eggs in the enforcement agency could tip off the subject and when the raiding team arrive at the scene, nobody is there.

That police officer that died during the raid was prepared but not careful enough to handle the chicken. That blade is so sharp that if it hits your vital organ, you are done. Many have died on this kind of accident and this recent one should be a lesson to all involve that this activity is dangerous and police officers should not touch those chickens with blade still on as this mighty fighter would take their life.
I never knew that chickens are attached with blades, so is this a death match like the gladiators ;D.

You mean the cockfighting? Yes, it is like a gladiator match and most of the time, one of the cock will end up dead and sometimes both of them will suffer the same fate.

On the case of the police officer who died during the raid, that is a case of mishandling the rooster. Someone have not put the cover of the blade (maybe because of the commotion) to prevent that kind of incident.


Title: Re: Death during illegal cockfighting raid
Post by: iTradeChips on November 02, 2020, 02:54:45 AM
Accidents really happens, I've seen it in the news too and even in the social media posts, almost everyone is laughing by the death of the police(he is the chief police btw). It may be hard to believe but it makes me realize how dangerous life is, and how surprising a death would be. It somehow feels like a death inside a horror film right. I don't know why but this is the first time I've heard of a human death caused by a fighting cock. Some gamblers got hit by that sharp blade too but they are just lucky it's just a wound. But this is so unlucky for the police, being hit in a dangerous artery that could cause his death.

There is so much illegal cockfighting here, they called it "topada", some are in train railways, abandoned lot, house and etc. Even during the  start of the quarantine, there are so much news about topada's here.

I don't want to talk politics on this but I need to share this to people who might not familiar with these types of people who mock the police and the military, also the government. Up to the point that these people wanted them dead. People who tend to laugh at a policeman's death are if not all, leftist or liberal thinking. If you are already aware of the goings on in this country. These people - communist activists, socialist academicians, liberal middle class and socialist priests and nuns all have one thing in common, their disdain of the military establishment and of the police. And mocking this policeman's death is a proof of how vile these people think of their fellowman, simply because he wore a policeman's uniform. This is very sick behavior.


Title: Re: Death during illegal cockfighting raid
Post by: slapper on November 02, 2020, 03:50:10 AM
one of the infuriating part here is that cockfighting was allowed in the area if organizers followed proper procedure and health protocol in order to legally operate during this pandemic. but these bastards decided fuck the law. and now their stupidity and lack of following the protocols resulted to someone's death.

It's difficult to stop cockfighting forever. Cockfighting is inherently a tradition in many countries in Southeast Asia. No matter how hard you try to prevent these activities, you can never fully control the situation. People here indeed have a passion for chickens fight. Age is not limited as well. I have seen a 14-years old boy raise his cock just to make money from the fight. And money comes from cockfighting is kinda worthy for them. Being uneducated can not give you many chances to have a proper job. And a manual worker's salary in these countries is less than $300 a month.

Although this activity is surely illegal, if you cant not provide a better living standard, there will always people who are forced to do this for the money.


Title: Re: Death during illegal cockfighting raid
Post by: Alucard1 on November 02, 2020, 04:07:50 AM
I have watched the news and that time the place is under MGCQ and they are allowed to have the Cockfighting but it should have a health protocol to be safe and protect each and everyone but as what in the news said the cockfighting was got raid because it is illegal and resulted to the death of the police officer because of the blood loss caused by the attack of the chicken wearing a sharpen tool in its feet. I feel sorry for h death of the officer, this is a bad thing in the Philippines, some so many people don even care about the rules of the government. They are still doing such illegal activities.

Those people involved with the cockfighting are now in prison including 2 seniors and are now finding those 3 organizers of the cockfighting.


Title: Re: Death during illegal cockfighting raid
Post by: mich on November 02, 2020, 05:58:57 AM
This is a horrible gruesome way to die and its a sad affair for the dead policeman and his family. 
When i read the title of this thread i did not think it would be about a bird killing a armed policeman.
Very tragic way to go and may he rest in peace.


Title: Re: Death during illegal cockfighting raid
Post by: plvbob0070 on November 02, 2020, 12:31:55 PM
I first heard about this news because it's becoming a meme on social media. But I never expect that this kind of situation will happen that police will die in a raid because of the rooster. But the real issue is that people will still illegally gamble and organize cockfighting even if they know that it's illegal due to the protocols implemented. Also, it's sad that someone who's just doing his job died in this event when he could have lived if they did not disobey the protocol.
If people were obedient, there will be no raid, but that's life, there are violators and police are just trying to do their job.

Maybe they expect it would happen, the roster killed the police, this time the roster got their revenge on a human as they usually are the toys for the humans just to fulfill their gambling entertainment. Honestly, this is the first time I heard a police got killed by a roster during the raid, rare but it happened.
I guess we can say that's how life works? But it was very unexpected to hear this kind of event where the rooster is the cause of his death. Probably no one also expected that this could happen that's why even the police were not able to protect themselves to prevent such situations when they were planning to raid the place.

I hope with this issue, the authorities can be more strict to prevent illegal cockfighting because it's putting risk to everyone there, they might get infected by the virus, and worst-case like what happened to the police.


Title: Re: Death during illegal cockfighting raid
Post by: ethereumhunter on November 02, 2020, 12:35:30 PM
I just hope that no officer will get that experience in the future, and if there is another raid like that, they need to secure before it happens again. But I think that accident happens coincidentally, and they don't imagine if that can happen. Maybe the police need to prepare with everything necessary and always take care of themselves. I can not imagine if the blade is attached to their body.

Everytime that the police are going to a mission or somewhere in order to raid a cockpit area/ gambling area or some drugs related mission, they are offering their lives and they already know that maybe after the mission there are some buddies from there team might get killed accidentally and I believe that they are already aware of it and they are prepared of what ever might happens on their missions, the thing was just they need to be more prepared when they are going to a deadly missions so that there will be no cases like this will happen again.

Yes, I am sure that they will be more prepared for anything worst that might happen in the next mission. They already give their best work to people by always protecting people. We can hope that they will be okay, and nothing bad happens to them in the next mission. It is a lesson for the police institution, and they need to make sure that every police personnel will have protection from anything that can put their lives in danger.


Title: Re: Death during illegal cockfighting raid
Post by: death69 on November 02, 2020, 12:52:49 PM
I don't know why still people do this, online gambling are more accessible. Instead, they organize illegal cockfights that killed a police officer who's just trying to implement the law. I'm just pissed off, while lockdown and quarantine is being implemented, they can still play and wager through online sports bet.

well, actually, Asia's countries have done a great job in sealing this disease in such a short amount of time. Only Western people do not know how to cope with this pandemic and it is certain that many western people are unthoughtful which cause them to affected to this virus.

It is an industrial accident, you cant avoid that although the percentage is extremely more. Bad luck to this guy. Moreover, it strenuous to stop cockfighting one and for all because it is hosted arbitrarily everywhere. And there are even some professional stadium set up only for cockfighting betting


Title: Re: Death during illegal cockfighting raid
Post by: fortunecrypto on November 02, 2020, 03:00:25 PM
It's big news here in our country when it happened, it's the first time that a policeman was killed by a cock and  it happened while the policeman is just implementing the quarantine law, the people who organized this cockfighting should be imposed with a stiff penalty, because of their stubbornness a public servant have to lose his life performing his duty.
Some people cannot control themselves and realize that we are in a pandemic where crowd gathering should be avoided.


Title: Re: Death during illegal cockfighting raid
Post by: Viscore on November 02, 2020, 03:32:34 PM
It's big news here in our country when it happened, it's the first time that a policeman was killed by a cock and  it happened while the policeman is just implementing the quarantine law, the people who organized this cockfighting should be imposed with a stiff penalty, because of their stubbornness a public servant have to lose his life performing his duty.
Some people cannot control themselves and realize that we are in a pandemic where crowd gathering should be avoided.
Because they don't care about the pandemic. These gamblers can't live without gambling as they find a way to please themselves. And besides, nobody is expecting this to happen and so the police officer. All these gamblers might be put in jail but not because of the death to a police officer but because they break the quarantine law.
this is unpredictable happening and very unfortunate. And I hope these people will make this thing to change their life and stop doing/participating in illegal gambling just like cockfighting in the middle of the pandemic.


Title: Re: Death during illegal cockfighting raid
Post by: target on November 02, 2020, 05:35:24 PM
It's big news here in our country when it happened, it's the first time that a policeman was killed by a cock and  it happened while the policeman is just implementing the quarantine law, the people who organized this cockfighting should be imposed with a stiff penalty, because of their stubbornness a public servant have to lose his life performing his duty.
Some people cannot control themselves and realize that we are in a pandemic where crowd gathering should be avoided.
Because they don't care about the pandemic. These gamblers can't live without gambling as they find a way to please themselves. And besides, nobody is expecting this to happen and so the police officer. All these gamblers might be put in jail but not because of the death to a police officer but because they break the quarantine law.
this is unpredictable happening and very unfortunate. And I hope these people will make this thing to change their life and stop doing/participating in illegal gambling just like cockfighting in the middle of the pandemic.

The event was organized by someone, it should be his fault because he organized the arena for the matches. If there was no event like this, the people who likes cockfighting wouldn't be there. There were there to earn money, besides each place in the Philippines has different quarantine ordinance, it could be that in this area people are allowed to walk around as long as there is social distancing. Putting them all in jail will cause more damage. 


Title: Re: Death during illegal cockfighting raid
Post by: qwertyup23 on November 02, 2020, 05:44:48 PM
I don't know why still people do this, online gambling are more accessible. Instead, they organize illegal cockfights that killed a police officer who's just trying to implement the law. I'm just pissed off, while lockdown and quarantine is being implemented, they can still play and wager through online sports bet.


Base from my experience, these people who participated in illegal cockfighting usually live in the province where online access is scarce and novel to them. That is why most of them resort to the conventional way of gambling- which is through cockfighting.

Unfortunately, these people would do anything just to continue their habits. They purposely ignore the strict regulations imposed by the government and they think that the whole pandemic is just a myth and a joke. Hopefully this experience would open their perspective that such practice is indeed, illegal.


Title: Re: Death during illegal cockfighting raid
Post by: milewilda on November 02, 2020, 05:52:48 PM
I don't know why still people do this, online gambling are more accessible. Instead, they organize illegal cockfights that killed a police officer who's just trying to implement the law. I'm just pissed off, while lockdown and quarantine is being implemented, they can still play and wager through online sports bet.


Base from my experience, these people who participated in illegal cockfighting usually live in the province where online access is scarce and novel to them. That is why most of them resort to the conventional way of gambling- which is through cockfighting.

Unfortunately, these people would do anything just to continue their habits. They purposely ignore the strict regulations imposed by the government and they think that the whole pandemic is just a myth and a joke. Hopefully this experience would open their perspective that such practice is indeed, illegal.

Even online access wasnt still rampant or developed this is a game where had been created through ages and still had been done as part of some culture on some countries that do have this kind of way of gambling.
I've seen that most of these cockfighting events are illegal but there are places on which it is legal but due to pandemic then its understandable that it would really be prohibited for this time due to this event
is really crowd generating one so its no question on why its not allowed but there are gamblers or handlers which are really hard headed and doesnt really listen and follow on whats the law.
Its normal for them to be raided but accident and shit do happens to those who enforce the law.


Title: Re: Death during illegal cockfighting raid
Post by: Fredomago on November 02, 2020, 06:06:39 PM

The event was organized by someone, it should be his fault because he organized the arena for the matches.
First thing to remember, organizer/s should carry much heavier blame as there's no cockfighting that may take place without them to begin with.

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If there was no event like this, the people who likes cockfighting wouldn't be there.
No one will know about it if there's none who organized the fight, it's really famous around he country so if there's a noise about it gamblers will be there to gamble.

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There were there to earn money, besides each place in the Philippines has different quarantine ordinance, it could be that in this area people are allowed to walk around as long as there is social distancing.
Gamblers are always aiming for the money, it's not for entertainment as there's still quarantine law that active inside the country.

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Putting them all in jail will cause more damage. 
They deserve it as they break the law and cause a life because of this illegal doing.