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Title: Sponsor Money from Casino, Is bad or Good?
Post by: ryzaadit on February 17, 2021, 06:55:31 PM
Every single business, service, will always have some marketing strategy to promote their service. In casinos, one of the marketing is to paid someone like Streamer or Youtuber to play on his casino. One of the examples offers from casinos they give for the promotion giving some sponsor money to play for every Youtuber or Streamer. If you watching a gambling video mostly on CRYPTO & CS-GO casino, it's not quite familiar anymore when they got sponsor money from the casino.

Here some sponsor offer I know from some casino:
  • Fully sponsor money
    This one of the most offer some casino give for promoting his casino, they paid some streamer or youtube and fully sponsor the money to play on their casino but with some condition, you cannot withdraw the money
  • Bonus deposit sponsor
    This sponsor was quite rare, I only know some casino that got this sponsor one of the example YouTubers called Drew. Yeah, he got a bonus sponsor deposit when he deposit around 3K USD the casino adds his balance around 2K off course without any requirement like minimum wagger

Right now, I'm want to hear everyone's opinion about sponsor money.

What do you things for some streamer who playing using sponsor money? did you feel that was not good or you have another opinion. IMO, I don't mind with some sponsor money as long the streamer admitted on the video he using sponsor money and not just say that was his own money when the reality the money came from sponsor money or even the worst scenario playing using demo money.

And of course, the casino that sponsors the money came from a reputable casino. I believe in bicointalk some casino even reputable casino was also offering this sponsor for some YouTuber or streamer.

I kinda feel got some entertainment from this even they playing with some sponsor money, as long the money sponsor not really a ridiculous amount.


Title: Re: Sponsor Money from Casino, Is bad or Good?
Post by: dothebeats on February 17, 2021, 07:19:29 PM
Depends on who get the sponsorship money, I'd say. There are still integrity-driven people out there that will play for a sponsor but will still point out the bad things on the platform that they received sponsorship money from. The point of a sponsorship deal is to advertise or expose a platform to that individual's audiences for them to try and play. There's no harm in doing it IMO. It's a clean adervtisement strategy that anyone can use to promote their site to the open public.


Title: Re: Sponsor Money from Casino, Is bad or Good?
Post by: milewilda on February 17, 2021, 07:33:47 PM

What do you things for some streamer who playing using sponsor money? did you feel that was not good or you have another opinion. IMO, I don't mind with some sponsor money as long the streamer admitted on the video he using sponsor money and not just say that was his own money when the reality the money came from sponsor money or even the worst scenario playing using demo money.
I doesnt really matter for me because they wont really be telling in the first place that those are purely sponsored money and not theirs which it isnt actually surprising in todays situation.
Thing here is that you do get entertained on watching that stream and of course playing on the advertised gambling site will be always depending on your own
choice not theirs.

And of course, the casino that sponsors the money came from a reputable casino. I believe in bicointalk some casino even reputable casino was also offering this sponsor for some YouTuber or streamer.
Possible but due to lots of big players or gamblers into this market then you can hardly tell if those funds we're just show offs or their real money came from their pockets.


Title: Re: Sponsor Money from Casino, Is bad or Good?
Post by: macson on February 17, 2021, 07:46:04 PM
streamer, athlete or others is a kind of job so they need sponsors to earn money.

as long as the casino is not flawed (never deceives customers and has a good reputation) so for me, there is no problem with the gambling site as sponsoring.
remember the keyword "do not accept sponsor money from fraudsters"


Title: Re: Sponsor Money from Casino, Is bad or Good?
Post by: Vaskiy on February 17, 2021, 08:07:27 PM
Popular people easily make good money out of the sponsor, because popular faces are used as a source to promote the service. In recent days Stake has sponsored Israel Adesanya to be the brand ambassador for Stake. I've an YouTuber friend, he used to get mostly travel offer on vacation. This is completely a common practice.


Title: Re: Sponsor Money from Casino, Is bad or Good?
Post by: dunfida on February 17, 2021, 08:21:42 PM
You would accept those offers rather than on earning nothing because as a streamer specially popular ones will really be having that edge and that would be primarily the target of those companies because they do know
that their influential and using up that thing will really bring out some advantage when it comes to exposure and as a streamer then you are aiming to make money not only into your streams but also in sponsorship
and other means or sources.So its not really something new and it wont be an issue if we do talk if its on the ethical side or not.


Title: Re: Sponsor Money from Casino, Is bad or Good?
Post by: uneng on February 17, 2021, 08:28:13 PM
Take in consideration the streamer will be making profit for that propaganda anyway, after all he is being sponsored. He can play with his own money, lose everything during the match, but his profit is guaranteed in the end due to the sponsor.

For me it doesn't make difference if the streamer is playing with his own money or with money given by the casino since the provably fair system is working, what means that is a legit gameplay with legit results. And of course, since the streamer doesn't promise *safe strategies* to gamble, what would mean misleading advertising.


Title: Re: Sponsor Money from Casino, Is bad or Good?
Post by: ryzaadit on February 17, 2021, 08:33:22 PM
Depends on who get the sponsorship money,
Someone who got the offer will be always someone who has some exposure from their follower and mostly will be always Youtuber or Casino streamer.

In recent days Stake has sponsored Israel Adesanya to be the brand ambassador for Stake.
Both goals were the same, but type sponsor what I talk kinda different with the ambassador.

I doesnt really matter for me because they wont really be telling in the first place that those are purely sponsored money and not theirs which it isnt actually surprising in todays situation.
There has some honest YouTuber or streamer who always where the money came from, one of example WatchGamesTV, Juicy, Drew you can see on his video they always told where the money came from.

I'm just respecting their action to telling the truth, now you can see WatchGamesTV he have a new video a few hours ago and guess what he was admited the money came from sponsor Roobet + he deposits more a little bit.

For me it doesn't make difference if the streamer is playing with his own money or with money given by the casino since the provably fair system is working, what means that is a legit gameplay with legit results. And of course, since the streamer doesn't promise *safe strategies* to gamble, what would mean misleading advertising.
Well don't worry they always put the warning on the begining video or in the description.


Title: Re: Sponsor Money from Casino, Is bad or Good?
Post by: electronicash on February 17, 2021, 08:45:15 PM
a youtube must be lucky to have such sponsor.
it's becoming usual on the internet that a casino sponsoring someone. we can even see logo of casino on the athlete's shirt. these are all marketing for them, it makes the business going when there are people continue using the services. marketing helps them go on. we all know what will happen if the casino here in bitcointalk stops advertising, they gradually die.



Title: Re: Sponsor Money from Casino, Is bad or Good?
Post by: adzino on February 17, 2021, 09:13:49 PM
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Right now, I'm want to hear everyone's opinion about sponsor money.
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What exactly do you think is wrong over here? I don't see anything wrong when a casino sponsors someone to advertise for them or review their casino. Its more like they are getting paid for promoting their casino and letting everyone know about it. Sure, the reviewer might be biased due to this, but then, if someone believes everything a random guy on the internet says, then he is an idiot. On other hand, I doubt any "streamer" would risk their reputation by giving biased or fake reviews.
I would say sponsoring isn't wrong in this case. The "streamer" earns, the casino gets promoted and others get to know about the casino.


Title: Re: Sponsor Money from Casino, Is bad or Good?
Post by: Oilacris on February 17, 2021, 09:18:36 PM
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Right now, I'm want to hear everyone's opinion about sponsor money.
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What exactly do you think is wrong over here? I don't see anything wrong when a casino sponsors someone to advertise for them or review their casino. Its more like they are getting paid for promoting their casino and letting everyone know about it. Sure, the reviewer might be biased due to this, but then, if someone believes everything a random guy on the internet says, then he is an idiot. On other hand, I doubt any "streamer" would risk their reputation by giving biased or fake reviews.
I would say sponsoring isn't wrong in this case. The "streamer" earns, the casino gets promoted and others get to know about the casino.
Its a win-win situation in both sides and this is just simply part of marketing which i dont really see anything wrong in here.Biased or not but still people

will able to find out if it do looks obvious and you are right that they are paid to promote the site so its understandable that they will be giving out positive sentiments most of the time.

You do have your own choice if you do follow that streamer or not.


Title: Re: Sponsor Money from Casino, Is bad or Good?
Post by: Twinkledoe on February 17, 2021, 09:27:03 PM
You would accept those offers rather than on earning nothing because as a streamer specially popular ones will really be having that edge and that would be primarily the target of those companies because they do know
that their influential and using up that thing will really bring out some advantage when it comes to exposure and as a streamer then you are aiming to make money not only into your streams but also in sponsorship
and other means or sources.So its not really something new and it wont be an issue if we do talk if its on the ethical side or not.

I don't have qualms also about this. As long as the casino he is promoting is legit and not screwing gamblers, I am okay with it. But if he knows that the site has so many scam allegations and unresolved issues and still promoting it. Then, I will doubt the integrity of that promoter. Clearly, he is only for the money and doesn't care about other people being screwed on the site.


Title: Re: Sponsor Money from Casino, Is bad or Good?
Post by: blockman on February 17, 2021, 10:03:42 PM
That's the same as advertisement, it's easier for them to get exposure if they'll go with full sponsor money to a known streamer, athlete, or any team that they'll get a wide reach. As for the streamers, it's a norm to mention that they're being sponsored to avoid misleading their viewers and so their audiences know that they're being sponsored. That's part of the deal if they are given money to be used into the casino or some deposit bonuses. I always get to see those exposures in streamers that I watch.


Title: Re: Sponsor Money from Casino, Is bad or Good?
Post by: imstillthebest on February 17, 2021, 10:12:35 PM
i dont know about cs go maybe they have sponshorships that came from a casino but i mostly foccus playing on a crypto casino and as much as i know most of the streamers are not affliated by a gambling site but it was thier own money they are using to play but there are gambling that conduct a youtube campaign but it was a for a short term purpose only .
 i dont have a problem if the streamer tells honestly that it wasnt his money and sponsored money overall isnt bad in my opinion .


Title: Re: Sponsor Money from Casino, Is bad or Good?
Post by: nelson4lov on February 17, 2021, 10:20:11 PM
Like you said:

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IMO, I don't mind with some sponsor money as long the streamer admitted on the video he using sponsor money.
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I don't really have a problem with a streamer getting sponsored to try out a casino platform and maybe offer some kind of review for his subs/followers. I won't have any problem with that as far as the streamer is upfront with his subscribers about the fact that he isn't using his own funds but that which the casino gave to him. Sponsored videos/posts are one of the most effective methods of advertising and its done virtually in most industries. For instance, phone manufacturers usually gifts a phone to a tech influencer to make a review.

My point? What matters is that the streamer should be honest about the casino and not just mislead his followers just because he's sponsored.


Title: Re: Sponsor Money from Casino, Is bad or Good?
Post by: qwertyup23 on February 17, 2021, 10:20:21 PM
I vaguely remember that years ago, some streamers in the e-sports platform were paid by various gambling websites using the funds given to them. There was an incident that such promotion made by this gambling website and the streamer were orchestrated in a way to make it look legit, but in fact rigged in the very beginning. This caused a stir in the community in which Valve had to step-up to mitigate the damage.

i dont know about cs go maybe they have sponshorships that came from a casino but i mostly foccus playing on a crypto casino and as much as i know most of the streamers are not affliated by a gambling site but it was thier own money they are using to play but there are gambling that conduct a youtube campaign but it was a for a short term purpose only .
 i dont have a problem if the streamer tells honestly that it wasnt his money and sponsored money overall isnt bad in my opinion .

This is the one that I was talking about. Sponsorship money given by the gambling website can be a double-edged sword since streamers are given large amounts of money, so it makes it very appealing and convincing to the viewers about the chances of winning.



Title: Re: Sponsor Money from Casino, Is bad or Good?
Post by: Ryker1 on February 17, 2021, 11:20:08 PM
Well, perhaps it's quite good if the streamer will tell that the money they used in gambling as an advertisement has come from the sponsorship of the gambling sites, -- but the fact, they don't. This is the same as the streamer play an online game, they receive payment from the online game they had played. For me, this is not a big deal because we know even they will not tell that they got a commission from the gambling site once they advertise that gambling site it is expected they accept money to gamble.


Title: Re: Sponsor Money from Casino, Is bad or Good?
Post by: robelneo on February 17, 2021, 11:24:02 PM
I'm ok with it as long as the streamer is an honest reviewer who will point out the flaws, advantages, and disadvantages of playing in his sponsor casino, his loyalty should be on his audience because so much at stake on his reputation and he should stipulate that on his sponsor that he should be independent and transparent on his reviews, the gambling audience is now wiser they know what is an independent and a paid reviews, so he should tell his audience.


Title: Re: Sponsor Money from Casino, Is bad or Good?
Post by: KTChampions on February 17, 2021, 11:35:04 PM
I watch many streamers and I can say that they have different points of view on this. Some streamers fundamentally do not advertise casinos and various risky investment schemes. Some streamers easily advertise both.
In my opinion, a casino in this sense resembles alcohol - if a person is adult and adept, then he himself decides to use it or not. And if we advertise alcohol / casinos, then we should not relieve the responsibility for making decisions from this person - this is his choice.
So i'm ok with such money.


Title: Re: Sponsor Money from Casino, Is bad or Good?
Post by: danherbias07 on February 18, 2021, 12:39:14 AM
It's good for the business side but not for a player side.
If you are watching too much of this videos then you might get the wrong idea.
Those Youtuber's just like you said are playing for free. That means, they don't really care much of how much they will lose unlike us gamblers.
We are trying to protect our money making sure every bet we take has lower risk.
Think of it as a paid advertisement only and never mimic whatever strategy they will do.


Title: Re: Sponsor Money from Casino, Is bad or Good?
Post by: ryzaadit on February 18, 2021, 12:53:24 AM
What exactly do you think is wrong over here? I don't see anything wrong when a casino sponsors someone to advertise for them or review their casino. Its more like they are getting paid for promoting their casino and letting everyone know about it. Sure, the reviewer might be biased due to this, but then, if someone believes everything a random guy on the internet says, then he is an idiot. On other hand, I doubt any "streamer" would risk their reputation by giving biased or fake reviews.
I would say sponsoring isn't wrong in this case. The "streamer" earns, the casino gets promoted and others get to know about the casino.
There 2 types of men
1. Doesn't have a problem like me.
2. There someone who has some problem while some of the streamers or Youtuber playing with sponsor money.

That's, why maybe see from various view and aspect could be good ~XD

i dont know about cs go maybe they have sponshorships that came from a casino but i mostly foccus playing on a crypto casino and as much as i know most of the streamers are not affliated by a gambling site but it was thier own money they are using to play but there are gambling that conduct a youtube campaign but it was a for a short term purpose only .
 i dont have a problem if the streamer tells honestly that it wasnt his money and sponsored money overall isnt bad in my opinion .
CSGO gambling website right now was also supported cryptocurrency due to the policy trade item from steam, one of the example DuelBits. Yes, not affiliated but they are got some contract offer sometimes to do a sponsorship video playing on the casino.

I'm ok with it as long as the streamer is an honest reviewer who will point out the flaws, advantages, and disadvantages of playing in his sponsor casino, his loyalty should be on his audience because so much at stake on his reputation and he should stipulate that on his sponsor that he should be independent and transparent on his reviews, the gambling audience is now wiser they know what is an independent and a paid reviews, so he should tell his audience.
Yeah, that's why admitted where the fund came from was one of good moves for some streamer or YouTuber I respect that decisioun. But there has some case for some casino trying to make fools their own viewer by doing a stupid things like playing with demo account and saying like real money.

One of the example Roshtein got caught during the streamer playing with demo money.


Title: Re: Sponsor Money from Casino, Is bad or Good?
Post by: Strongkored on February 18, 2021, 01:25:59 AM
I understand that one form of promotion is to give free money to streamers to play on their web and provide reviews to attract players.
As the OP has said, it can be a problem if the streamer does not honestly say that he is advertising the web, so that new players can get stuck if they do not carefully assess whether the review given by the streamer is indeed an honest review or there are parts that streamer hide to cover the shortcomings of the web.
I think isn't a bad thing for streamer got money to advertise gambling site, but they need to make a honest review.


Title: Re: Sponsor Money from Casino, Is bad or Good?
Post by: Darker45 on February 18, 2021, 02:12:52 AM
I see no particular problem with this. If the casino is a reputable one and if the player openly admits that he/she is playing using sponsor funds, then there's no issue with it.

An issue would arise if the sponsor requires as a condition that the streamer or player won't say negative stuff against the site or the platform. If the streamer or player would be required to only mention the pros of the site or platform and that he/she can only heap praises to his/her gambling experience, then that's crossing the line. I know it's marketing and promotion but it has to be transparent also.

Promoting anything by deceit is a no no.


Title: Re: Sponsor Money from Casino, Is bad or Good?
Post by: shoreno on February 18, 2021, 02:13:51 AM
I understand that one form of promotion is to give free money to streamers to play on their web and provide reviews to attract players.
As the OP has said, it can be a problem if the streamer does not honestly say that he is advertising the web, so that new players can get stuck if they do not carefully assess whether the review given by the streamer is indeed an honest review or there are parts that streamer hide to cover the shortcomings of the web.
I think isn't a bad thing for streamer got money to advertise gambling site, but they need to make a honest review.
honest review when your being paid ? i think this is hard but we usually say positive words only if we are paid to advertised a site but if the viewer of the stream are already an old time gambler of the site he was watching he will know if the sponsored streamer is telling the truth or not . the big impact that can happen that arent unavoidable is that the viewer can get attracted  to the big wins that they saw in the stream and they are going to mimic it but they are going to be the looser in here because they are using thier own money but the streamer isnt .


Title: Re: Sponsor Money from Casino, Is bad or Good?
Post by: maydna on February 18, 2021, 02:16:04 AM
I would not mind accepting sponsor money from the casino, but that will depend on personal because some people don't want to accept the money if that is related to the casino. After all, the sponsor money will be like a bonus to the streamer as they give something to their viewers, and when the casino offers some money to them to be like an ambassador or help the casino promote their site, the streamer can accept it. If the money is enough for the streamer, I think they can accept it and help the casino.


Title: Re: Sponsor Money from Casino, Is bad or Good?
Post by: xSkylarx on February 18, 2021, 04:35:08 AM
As long as they admit that it is from their sponsor then there are no problems with that. And why would a streamer or promoter claim that the sponsor's money is his own money, he just not only put his career at risk but also the casino he will promote.

I would not mind accepting sponsor money from the casino, but that will depend on personal because some people don't want to accept the money if that is related to the casino. After all, the sponsor money will be like a bonus to the streamer as they give something to their viewers, and when the casino offers some money to them to be like an ambassador or help the casino promote their site, the streamer can accept it. If the money is enough for the streamer, I think they can accept it and help the casino.

If the casino doesn't violate any regulations and their business is registered legally then it's good to promote them. Promotions or sponsorships are always paid in cash, it is one of the ways they earn on their career. The amounts we see when the streamer promotes them are given by the company so he can promote them well that will attract some people.


Title: Re: Sponsor Money from Casino, Is bad or Good?
Post by: Pamadar on February 18, 2021, 05:35:44 AM
I would not mind accepting sponsor money from the casino, but that will depend on personal because some people don't want to accept the money if that is related to the casino. After all, the sponsor money will be like a bonus to the streamer as they give something to their viewers, and when the casino offers some money to them to be like an ambassador or help the casino promote their site, the streamer can accept it. If the money is enough for the streamer, I think they can accept it and help the casino.

If the sole purpose is also to bring the money out for the audiences.

It's seems no to be that bad, the more money to recieve the more the streamers can share, it's a personal opinion and decision making
as there are people who see gambling as bad business and recieving money from the casino owners are also bad in their reputation but other see the otherway as they can deal with it  with correct decision making.


Title: Re: Sponsor Money from Casino, Is bad or Good?
Post by: Janation on February 18, 2021, 07:00:19 AM
I remembered when a lot of YouTubers including Rice Gum and Jake Paul advertised loot boxes gambling games on their YouTube channel.

It's been a huge facepalm for me when that happened. The fact that they are not thinking about the content they are making showing a lot of things that a teenager would do since that is the majority of their viewers. For sports personalities, I think it is fine since most of the people that would see that is the adult ones but in YouTube, all ages would see that especially if they are a fan of that Youtube content creator.


Title: Re: Sponsor Money from Casino, Is bad or Good?
Post by: Ucy on February 18, 2021, 09:50:06 AM
I wonder if you are interested in the moral aspect of casinos sponsoring youtubers/streamers that have many betting audiences, or just about the betting sites sponsoring youtubers/streamers to bet on their sites with the sponsor's money?
Well, I think it's better that the audiences know that their Youtubers/streamers bets are sponsored. 
If it's about the general moral aspect of being sponsored by betting sites...I'd say it's not bad if the betting site is providing useful/safe services to people and society in a safe betting environment/condition.
Sponsoring a good betting sites is better sponsoring companies that sell junk/bad foods, bad drinks, bad movies/games, and other harmful products and services.


Title: Re: Sponsor Money from Casino, Is bad or Good?
Post by: arwin100 on February 18, 2021, 10:22:09 AM
It's not bad if the casino promoted had good reputation and there's no conscience issue for wrecking someone's deposit in that site, but if the streamer/influencer promoting a scam casino which have so many case then it's not really good since he can add up the further damage to the community if he continuously promoting them.


Title: Re: Sponsor Money from Casino, Is bad or Good?
Post by: XZERO1 on February 18, 2021, 10:27:00 AM
What do you things for some streamer who playing using sponsor money? did you feel that was not good or you have another opinion. IMO, I don't mind with some sponsor money as long the streamer admitted on the video he using sponsor money and not just say that was his own money when the reality the money came from sponsor money or even the worst scenario playing using demo money.

Well, as you mentioned that streamer should clearly state that he was paid to promote that casino, for instance if I happen to see one casino name mentioned in many different YouTube channels without them stating the fact that they were paid to do so, I'd stay far away from that casino.

But then again even after that you still can not possibly be remotely sure that their opinion/review about that casino is honest, since they are being paid a good amount of money to do such promotions, for most real gamblers that have some experience with many casino websites these kinds of promotions don't mean anything anyway, and what it only does is make them give these casinos a try and if they happened to like the casino they might keep using them, and I think that's mostly what these casinos are looking for, but that only works for them as a good promotion if they got a decent non-scam casino website that is working fine.


Title: Re: Sponsor Money from Casino, Is bad or Good?
Post by: slaman29 on February 18, 2021, 11:47:27 AM
Those Youtuber's just like you said are playing for free. That means, they don't really care much of how much they will lose unlike us gamblers.
We are trying to protect our money making sure every bet we take has lower risk.
Think of it as a paid advertisement only and never mimic whatever strategy they will do.

I never really understood all the people who watch those videos and get excited. I mean, yeah, first of all I don't even know if they're all legit. Some of their reactions look fake. Secondly, it's casino money probably. Thirdly, if it's theirs you don't know how much they lost to make that jackpot hit.

There's really no strategy to most solo gambling games...


Title: Re: Sponsor Money from Casino, Is bad or Good?
Post by: FlightyPouch on February 18, 2021, 12:31:18 PM
I think it will be bad for the viewers and not the sponsored personalities. What if that personality is a popular celebrity and a lot of teenagers, young people that look up to him and follow him on social media or maybe on youtube. As these teenagers might engage in gambling at a young age that can destroy their lives. These people should be responsible for what they are doing since they have that influence that can drive their supporters.


Title: Re: Sponsor Money from Casino, Is bad or Good?
Post by: famososMuertos on February 18, 2021, 02:21:19 PM
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Actually, in the case of those who consume this type of content, you are interested in seeing results, what that different guy  does to make it a winner, a streaming has to be a winner with their own money, play money or money from a sponsor, it doesn't matter.

In reality at some point we all play with sponsored money only that the "name" in allocation is not the same, but the goal "yes". (Bonus-Rakeback-etc)

It does not matter if you are a streaming or not, you have to play that money in the same way as if you deposited it yourself, it is stupid to play differently or risk more than you know or can because it was assigned to you.

The sponsor has brought casino games to the popularity they are today.


Title: Re: Sponsor Money from Casino, Is bad or Good?
Post by: traderethereum on February 18, 2021, 02:24:55 PM
It's not bad if the casino promoted had good reputation and there's no conscience issue for wrecking someone's deposit in that site, but if the streamer/influencer promoting a scam casino which have so many case then it's not really good since he can add up the further damage to the community if he continuously promoting them.
Besides that, the streamer/influencer will get a label as a scammer because of that scam casino.
It can make the streamer/influencer's reputation bad, and I do not think that the streamer/influencer can continue his profession.
Maybe before the streamer/influencer accepts the offers, he can search for more information to see how good the casino reputations and decide if he can accept it or not.
The streamer/influencer needs to be careful with the casino offers because it will relate to his reputation.


Title: Re: Sponsor Money from Casino, Is bad or Good?
Post by: k@suy on February 18, 2021, 02:59:26 PM
I understand that one form of promotion is to give free money to streamers to play on their web and provide reviews to attract players.
As the OP has said, it can be a problem if the streamer does not honestly say that he is advertising the web, so that new players can get stuck if they do not carefully assess whether the review given by the streamer is indeed an honest review or there are parts that streamer hide to cover the shortcomings of the web.
I think isn't a bad thing for streamer got money to advertise gambling site, but they need to make a honest review.

Well a youtube streamer should or must tell honest reviews about the casino business that they promoting. It's because this is what they are paid for. It is not bad to promote a casino, earning from an sponsor isn't bad, it is a paid job to be honest as long as you didn't make a false statement regarding the casino. Though sometimes a streamer are using sych a flowerful thoughts about casino to attract players well and it is also because they are paid to attract new players.


Title: Re: Sponsor Money from Casino, Is bad or Good?
Post by: Poker Player on February 18, 2021, 03:34:17 PM
I agree with those stating that there is no problem as long as the streamer says/recognises he is being sponsored.  It's a deal between him and the casino, who can potentially benefit from that deal. The only thing is the viewers must know what's going on. Apart from that I have no problem with that.


Title: Re: Sponsor Money from Casino, Is bad or Good?
Post by: ryzaadit on February 18, 2021, 07:41:29 PM
I agree with those stating that there is no problem as long as the streamer says/recognises he is being sponsored.  It's a deal between him and the casino, who can potentially benefit from that deal.
The benefits only got some entertainment, but as always when you want to tried the casino used by streamer always doing research.

Well a youtube streamer should or must tell honest reviews about the casino business that they promoting. It's because this is what they are paid for. It is not bad to promote a casino, earning from an sponsor isn't bad, it is a paid job to be honest as long as you didn't make a false statement regarding the casino. Though sometimes a streamer are using sych a flowerful thoughts about casino to attract players well and it is also because they are paid to attract new players.
Agree.

Just don't like it when he did not tell anything, and guess what the worst thing used a demo account for doing a gamble more worst than using a sponsor money.


Title: Re: Sponsor Money from Casino, Is bad or Good?
Post by: KTChampions on February 18, 2021, 08:07:21 PM
It's good for the business side but not for a player side.
If you are watching too much of this videos then you might get the wrong idea.
Those Youtuber's just like you said are playing for free. That means, they don't really care much of how much they will lose unlike us gamblers.
We are trying to protect our money making sure every bet we take has lower risk.
Think of it as a paid advertisement only and never mimic whatever strategy they will do.

But if they show fair play and fair results, then this cannot harm anyone. If they use risky strategies, they will lose very quickly and this will rather serve as a bad example than somehow lure new players into gambling. And yet, such advertising is intended for adults, they themselves are able to make decisions and must be responsible for it.


Title: Re: Sponsor Money from Casino, Is bad or Good?
Post by: ralle14 on February 18, 2021, 09:40:33 PM
I have no issue with streamers or youtubers getting sponsored by casinos since I enjoy watching some gambling content myself. With that said I don't think sponsored content is that bad for both the viewer and the streamer (or youtuber) because gambling is an inevitable topic imo a lot of people even at a young age will be exposed to it no matter what.

I think it will be bad for the viewers and not the sponsored personalities. What if that personality is a popular celebrity and a lot of teenagers, young people that look up to him and follow him on social media or maybe on youtube. As these teenagers might engage in gambling at a young age that can destroy their lives. These people should be responsible for what they are doing since they have that influence that can drive their supporters.
I slightly agree with you but on the other hand gambling isn't that limited given that a lot of games offer the same mechanics or at least a similarity to what actual gambling games looks like. Most of the people should be aware at this point on what gambling is and know the downsides that it could possible give to you.


Title: Re: Sponsor Money from Casino, Is bad or Good?
Post by: magneto on February 18, 2021, 10:06:21 PM
Every single business, service, will always have some marketing strategy to promote their service. In casinos, one of the marketing is to paid someone like Streamer or Youtuber to play on his casino. One of the examples offers from casinos they give for the promotion giving some sponsor money to play for every Youtuber or Streamer. If you watching a gambling video mostly on CRYPTO & CS-GO casino, it's not quite familiar anymore when they got sponsor money from the casino.

Here some sponsor offer I know from some casino:
  • Fully sponsor money
    This one of the most offer some casino give for promoting his casino, they paid some streamer or youtube and fully sponsor the money to play on their casino but with some condition, you cannot withdraw the money
  • Bonus deposit sponsor
    This sponsor was quite rare, I only know some casino that got this sponsor one of the example YouTubers called Drew. Yeah, he got a bonus sponsor deposit when he deposit around 3K USD the casino adds his balance around 2K off course without any requirement like minimum wagger

Right now, I'm want to hear everyone's opinion about sponsor money.

What do you things for some streamer who playing using sponsor money? did you feel that was not good or you have another opinion. IMO, I don't mind with some sponsor money as long the streamer admitted on the video he using sponsor money and not just say that was his own money when the reality the money came from sponsor money or even the worst scenario playing using demo money.

And of course, the casino that sponsors the money came from a reputable casino. I believe in bicointalk some casino even reputable casino was also offering this sponsor for some YouTuber or streamer.

I kinda feel got some entertainment from this even they playing with some sponsor money, as long the money sponsor not really a ridiculous amount.

I don't have a problem with it even though there has been a lot of debate as to whether or not playing with sponsored money is considered misleading advertising.

I watch people like Drew, juicy, etc. for entertainment mostly anyway. Besides, they seem to be putting in their own money some of the time/majority of the time.

It is very easy to tell when someone is fake reacting - if they are playing with ludicrous amounts of funds that they can never withdraw. That is the only form of sponsorship that I have a personal issue with. As long as the streamer/advertiser has some vested interest in his/her own winnings, and he's not pumping out fake reactions, I am more than happy to be entertained.


Title: Re: Sponsor Money from Casino, Is bad or Good?
Post by: Oilacris on February 18, 2021, 10:20:13 PM
It's good for the business side but not for a player side.
If you are watching too much of this videos then you might get the wrong idea.
Those Youtuber's just like you said are playing for free. That means, they don't really care much of how much they will lose unlike us gamblers.
We are trying to protect our money making sure every bet we take has lower risk.
Think of it as a paid advertisement only and never mimic whatever strategy they will do.

But if they show fair play and fair results, then this cannot harm anyone. If they use risky strategies, they will lose very quickly and this will rather serve as a bad example than somehow lure new players into gambling. And yet, such advertising is intended for adults, they themselves are able to make decisions and must be responsible for it.
I dont see anything wrong for those streamers to choose on which one they would advertise and they wont just easily accept if they would be advertising some shady casinos
where they can able to discovered for themselves yet that would really be ruining their own reputation.So they are still careful into that part.

Researching on things that should really be accepted is a good behavior to have as a streamer, not just on accepting without doing any research or verification on things you're dealing with.

If they do play on the fair way neither using some strategy or not then its just fine as long there would be no deceiving activities would get involved then i dont see any problems with that.


Title: Re: Sponsor Money from Casino, Is bad or Good?
Post by: Shasha80 on February 18, 2021, 10:48:14 PM
In my opinion, the good thing is related to sponsor money from casino, because it can increase Youtuber's income. And the casino is profitable too
with promotions on the YouTube platform. This is mutually beneficial for both parties. Most importantly, youtubers must have the integrity that they
don't promote casinos that are cheating and scams. Because the current YouTube audience is very large and continues to increase, so if promoting
bad casinos. There will be many victims who will be harmed. So go ahead and fully sponsor or bonus deposit sponsor, both in my opinion are as good.


Title: Re: Sponsor Money from Casino, Is bad or Good?
Post by: maydna on February 19, 2021, 01:35:29 AM
~snip~
If the casino doesn't violate any regulations and their business is registered legally then it's good to promote them. Promotions or sponsorships are always paid in cash, it is one of the ways they earn on their career. The amounts we see when the streamer promotes them are given by the company so he can promote them well that will attract some people.
The promotions will be good for both of them to help the streamer ratings increase, and the casino can get more members from the streamer's viewers. Sometimes besides that amount, the casino can give more bonuses if the streamer can successfully promote their website, and that can be long-term sponsorships.

~snip~

If the sole purpose is also to bring the money out for the audiences.

It's seems no to be that bad, the more money to recieve the more the streamers can share, it's a personal opinion and decision making
as there are people who see gambling as bad business and recieving money from the casino owners are also bad in their reputation but other see the otherway as they can deal with it  with correct decision making.
Yes, it is why I said that would depend on each person. Perhaps, one streamer will not be a problem to promote the casino, but for the other streamer, they don't want to promote that casino because that will relate to each streamer's feeling. After all, it could be another money if the streamer can accept the sponsorships.


Title: Re: Sponsor Money from Casino, Is bad or Good?
Post by: Hippocrypto on February 19, 2021, 02:18:17 AM
There's nothing wrong of sponsorship, as long as the intensions is good for the benefit of the casino as well as their business being promoted at a certain purpose. Every situation needs to first evaluated by the gambling adminstrative, and I'm pretty before they'll accept any offers, there's a serious discussion over that matter. Involvement of money is really a hot issue, casino wouldn't deal with type of sponsorship that would cause hard on their particular operations.


Title: Re: Sponsor Money from Casino, Is bad or Good?
Post by: Question123 on February 19, 2021, 02:55:32 AM
If Im a youtuber if ever I will promote their casino once I see it's legit but it's not free because youtuber and streamer are paying to promote or advertise and that is happening right now. I hope those streamer will not only accept that to get money but also they need to search and try it before they going to accept it and going to promote because accepting they name will be front to this and once you promote a casino who is not legit and not good to play your career will be destroy for sure so do research for the streamer who are planning to promote a casino.


Title: Re: Sponsor Money from Casino, Is bad or Good?
Post by: Reid on February 19, 2021, 02:57:22 AM
I don't see anything wrong with it.
Businesses needed customers and streamers needed something to pay for their bills.  ;D It's a job.

This is the new way of commercial now.
Youtube put ads in between one video. Gambling sites and casinos also found their way to get more attention through sponsorships and freebies.
It's just money going back to circulation over and over.


Title: Re: Sponsor Money from Casino, Is bad or Good?
Post by: Fundamentals Of on February 19, 2021, 03:06:57 AM
I don't see anything wrong with it.
Businesses needed customers and streamers needed something to pay for their bills.  ;D It's a job.

This is the new way of commercial now.
Youtube put ads in between one video. Gambling sites and casinos also found their way to get more attention through sponsorships and freebies.
It's just money going back to circulation over and over.

Same here. Nothing wrong with this.

Casinos need to market their business. There are so many ways in doing it. It so happens that there are also Youtubers and streamers who are doing their thing in relation to gambling and so they are tailored fit to each other. Casinos are to be promoted. Youtubers and streamers are to be paid. It is a win-win situation for both of them.

For us, gamblers, we shouldn't just rely on what we read, heard, and watched online especially coming from ads and paid streamers and youtubers. Research is a responsibility on our end.


Title: Re: Sponsor Money from Casino, Is bad or Good?
Post by: Cling18 on February 19, 2021, 03:36:00 AM
It will actually both beneficial for both sides. It's a part of business and promoters and streamers really deserve to be paid or sponsored because they're promoting or advertising a certain site. As for me, it's also important that they'll receive sponsor money so they will be able to test the site as well. It's a marketing strategy but an opportunity for streamers as well.


Title: Re: Sponsor Money from Casino, Is bad or Good?
Post by: iamsheikhadil on February 19, 2021, 03:39:02 AM
To be honest, nothing changes for me if the streamer is playing with sponsor money or their own money. Gambling is for fun, so at the end of the day, it doesn't really matter if you win or lose or if you can withdraw your money or you can't, there are many streamers who indeed are sponsored by casinos with huge amount and they might have this condition that they can't withdraw or they can withdraw a limited amount, so I would like to advise others that not to take streamers as an inspiration for gambling because since they are not winning/losing anything, they can bet big and go with high risk which we can't afford (unless the gambler is very rich) and he certainly just watching the stream as an entertainment is what is best :) !


Title: Re: Sponsor Money from Casino, Is bad or Good?
Post by: Wexnident on February 19, 2021, 04:14:56 AM
Nothing wrong with it imo, Gambling isn't an illegal activity or anything, it's just mostly frowned upon due to the fact that it uses up money easily (and tbh, most actions do, which I can't fathom why gambling has such a  biased judgment from the eyes of others). I'd reckon that sponsoring someone to kill someone, now that would be bad, but Gambling? Should be fine. It's in the end a way for casinos to spread their name by using the fanbase of a certain person after all, and as long as agreements were made legally, there shouldn't really be an issue.

It's just like commercials, and we don't exactly see anything wrong with it now do we?


Title: Re: Sponsor Money from Casino, Is bad or Good?
Post by: FlightyPouch on February 19, 2021, 01:40:22 PM
I think it will be bad for the viewers and not the sponsored personalities. What if that personality is a popular celebrity and a lot of teenagers, young people that look up to him and follow him on social media or maybe on youtube. As these teenagers might engage in gambling at a young age that can destroy their lives. These people should be responsible for what they are doing since they have that influence that can drive their supporters.
I slightly agree with you but on the other hand gambling isn't that limited given that a lot of games offer the same mechanics or at least a similarity to what actual gambling games looks like. Most of the people should be aware at this point on what gambling is and know the downsides that it could possible give to you.

All I can think of this are those games with the mechanics of loot boxes in their shops. There are a lot of games like that now and most of them are some of the most popular games in this world like Dota 2, CSGO, and Fortnite. There are a lot of Youtube personalities who open this problem and I don't know if there is an effect of it on players especially those underage players.


Title: Re: Sponsor Money from Casino, Is bad or Good?
Post by: Oceat on February 19, 2021, 02:18:06 PM
It will actually both beneficial for both sides. It's a part of business and promoters and streamers really deserve to be paid or sponsored because they're promoting or advertising a certain site. As for me, it's also important that they'll receive sponsor money so they will be able to test the site as well. It's a marketing strategy but an opportunity for streamers as well.
As long as there is no law broken with it when some streamer promotes a certain casino just by playing with their sponsored money. It depends on the streamer actually how they will going to advertise/promotes a casino using their talent as long as they were good at it. It would be shame to see such streamers that doesn't know what he/she was doing.

I don't even know a single streamers who promotes a casino even if this is just a sponsored money. Both will gain a benefit for promotion plus people will get to know a certain casino that's being promoted. Everyone can do their own way of how they would make their marketing strategy but streamer are on the mainstream already so it's the best to promote for now.


Title: Re: Sponsor Money from Casino, Is bad or Good?
Post by: jrrsparkles on February 19, 2021, 02:24:43 PM
Money is good as long as your are promoting a legit casino so you are not risking your future for few thousands dollars. There is nothing wrong with influencers getting such sponsor for promotion and that is why they become influencer or just take advantage of being one of them.


Title: Re: Sponsor Money from Casino, Is bad or Good?
Post by: electronicash on February 19, 2021, 02:57:31 PM
It will actually both beneficial for both sides. It's a part of business and promoters and streamers really deserve to be paid or sponsored because they're promoting or advertising a certain site. As for me, it's also important that they'll receive sponsor money so they will be able to test the site as well. It's a marketing strategy but an opportunity for streamers as well.
As long as there is no law broken with it when some streamer promotes a certain casino just by playing with their sponsored money. It depends on the streamer actually how they will going to advertise/promotes a casino using their talent as long as they were good at it. It would be shame to see such streamers that doesn't know what he/she was doing.

I don't even know a single streamers who promotes a casino even if this is just a sponsored money. Both will gain a benefit for promotion plus people will get to know a certain casino that's being promoted. Everyone can do their own way of how they would make their marketing strategy but streamer are on the mainstream already so it's the best to promote for now.

its the same thing as we are here in bitcointalk. we're not streamers but the traffic in this forum is so huge that casinos are considering buying advertising spots in the forum. and also signature campaign. two important aspects were considered, the traffic comes from gamblers and at the same time, they are bitcoin users.

for a streamer to be considered by a casino advertiser, he must have a huge fan base that will help the casino promotion.



Title: Re: Sponsor Money from Casino, Is bad or Good?
Post by: mu_enrico on February 19, 2021, 03:20:39 PM
Only a mad streamer will play with his own money. It's good for the show since they can high-rolling every day and still entertaining viewers. You can easily guess which one is a small streamer (streaming with his own money) since the pressure is there, not just having a good time and laughing together. This kind of sponsor money is okay, and I think anyone with a triple-digit IQ can see that they are sponsored by the casino.

The kind of sponsor money that I don't like is for shillers and guard dogs to play around with reputation.



Title: Re: Sponsor Money from Casino, Is bad or Good?
Post by: Fredomago on February 19, 2021, 04:50:07 PM
I don't see anything wrong with it.
Businesses needed customers and streamers needed something to pay for their bills.  ;D It's a job.

Simple but strongly right! It's business and both sides are benefiting from each other, as long as the business is legit and streamers are not only after with the money but also care about the reputationsof the house who are providing sponsorship, if they are for real and not after to scam the listeners / viewers then it's healthy to work with them.

Quote
This is the new way of commercial now.
Youtube put ads in between one video. Gambling sites and casinos also found their way to get more attention through sponsorships and freebies.
It's just money going back to circulation over and over.


Money works, providing benefits for advertisers and just circling around since social media sites are really reaching wider audineces, the chance is very high to attract numbers of  gamblers around to visit and try using the platform. Simple words for give and take advertising scheme.


Title: Re: Sponsor Money from Casino, Is bad or Good?
Post by: kryptqnick on February 19, 2021, 05:49:38 PM
I don't watch streamers, so I don't care much how they present themselves and stuff, but it seems to me that taking money from sponsors is completely fine since it's beneficial both for the casino (promotion) and for the streamer (money). However, just shilling about a casino is not a nice practice. I think that it would be best to disclose this info and say openly that they sponsor you. But if someone's paying you, it doesn't mean that you don't express your own opinion. You can both enjoy the experience and get paid. And if you don't really like the casino, you shouldn't take the sponsorship either, I think. So overall, I think it's a normal practice.


Title: Re: Sponsor Money from Casino, Is bad or Good?
Post by: Quidat on February 19, 2021, 06:55:09 PM
I don't watch streamers, so I don't care much how they present themselves and stuff, but it seems to me that taking money from sponsors is completely fine since it's beneficial both for the casino (promotion) and for the streamer (money). However, just shilling about a casino is not a nice practice. I think that it would be best to disclose this info and say openly that they sponsor you. But if someone's paying you, it doesn't mean that you don't express your own opinion. You can both enjoy the experience and get paid. And if you don't really like the casino, you shouldn't take the sponsorship either, I think. So overall, I think it's a normal practice.
Really hard to ignore when something like these kind offers would really be given out to you and its really hard to resist because this is already money
or profit for you to make which accepting or making a deal wont really be a problem.Being honest would be just on your part if you do tend to tell
those viewers that those are sponsored money or wont tend to tell them in the beginning and just play and show them on what the site could offer.
Its really a win win situation for both streamer and the casino because the primary motive is on having those things.


Title: Re: Sponsor Money from Casino, Is bad or Good?
Post by: Renampun on February 19, 2021, 08:34:11 PM
each country has a different view on this matter...
because I live in the east, the casino sponsoring is bad, because since childhood I was indoctrinated to think that gambling is haram.

If Im a youtuber if ever I will promote their casino once I see it's legit but it's not free because youtuber and streamer are paying to promote or advertise and that is happening right now. I hope those streamer will not only accept that to get money but also they need to search and try it before they going to accept it and going to promote because accepting they name will be front to this and once you promote a casino who is not legit and not good to play your career will be destroy for sure so do research for the streamer who are planning to promote a casino.
Yes, reputation is something that must be protected by streamers so that their good name is not damaged just because of a scam gambling site that became he/she sponsor.


Title: Re: Sponsor Money from Casino, Is bad or Good?
Post by: StartupAnalyst on February 19, 2021, 09:22:40 PM
I don't see anything wrong with that. It's just part of the advertising campaign and if you're a reasonable person you should understand that. In the same way, you can talk about, for example, clothes and appliances that streamer advertises. There is nothing wrong with the advertising itself.

There are, of course, situations when you can not be on the side of the streamer. For example, some casinos can give money to the streamer or blogger from the players who lost their referral link. Here I find it much harder to say that this is normal. Because if in the first situation, the steamer gets paid for advertising, then in the second situation, he is simply interested in losing his viewers. And he will actively offer to play to his viewers.


Title: Re: Sponsor Money from Casino, Is bad or Good?
Post by: ReiMomo on February 19, 2021, 09:42:35 PM
I don't see anything wrong with that. It's just part of the advertising campaign and if you're a reasonable person you should understand that. In the same way, you can talk about, for example, clothes and appliances that streamer advertises. There is nothing wrong with the advertising itself.
Exactly, that is very common sense. What is the purpose of the streamer having advertised such casino games?

Besides streamer has taken care of their subscriber, if they are having scam advertisements, it will I guess ruin their reputation, and having die-hard followers is very hard, it takes a month before you will gather people to listen to your live video. I don't see a reason that streamer becomes bad because they used the gambling owner's money or even that is a fund for having ads.


Title: Re: Sponsor Money from Casino, Is bad or Good?
Post by: AmoreJaz on February 19, 2021, 09:47:08 PM
I don't see anything wrong with that. It's just part of the advertising campaign and if you're a reasonable person you should understand that. In the same way, you can talk about, for example, clothes and appliances that streamer advertises. There is nothing wrong with the advertising itself.
Exactly, that is very common sense. What is the purpose of the streamer having advertised such casino games?

Besides streamer has taken care of their subscriber, if they are having scam advertisements, it will I guess ruin their reputation, and having die-hard followers is very hard, it takes a month before you will gather people to listen to your live video. I don't see a reason that streamer becomes bad because they used the gambling owner's money or even that is a fund for having ads.

if they want long lasting relationship with their subscribers, they will only promote legit sites. because viewers now are not that dumb anymore. if they feel that the streamer is just after for the money and not really care about the welfare of his followers, he wont get the attention that he wants from the viewers.
and remember, in this digital age, we can now report immediately those scam sites. so if they will endorse a scam one, it will be easily taken down from circulation.


Title: Re: Sponsor Money from Casino, Is bad or Good?
Post by: Silberman on February 20, 2021, 02:08:28 AM
What do you things for some streamer who playing using sponsor money? did you feel that was not good or you have another opinion. IMO, I don't mind with some sponsor money as long the streamer admitted on the video he using sponsor money and not just say that was his own money when the reality the money came from sponsor money or even the worst scenario playing using demo money.

And of course, the casino that sponsors the money came from a reputable casino. I believe in bicointalk some casino even reputable casino was also offering this sponsor for some YouTuber or streamer.

I kinda feel got some entertainment from this even they playing with some sponsor money, as long the money sponsor not really a ridiculous amount.
As long as they are being upfront about it and they are honest with what they see in the gambling website I do not have a problem, the issue is that as we know there are many dishonest people out there that will either hide this information or that will give a positive review of the casino even if the casino is not deserving of one, this is when I will have a problem with the sponsor money as it is not really sponsor anymore but a bought review and the moment someone accepts money for positive reviews then his opinion is worth nothing.


Title: Re: Sponsor Money from Casino, Is bad or Good?
Post by: Janation on February 20, 2021, 04:32:43 AM
As long as they are being upfront about it and they are honest with what they see in the gambling website I do not have a problem, the issue is that as we know there are many dishonest people out there that will either hide this information or that will give a positive review of the casino even if the casino is not deserving of one, this is when I will have a problem with the sponsor money as it is not really sponsor anymore but a bought review and the moment someone accepts money for positive reviews then his opinion is worth nothing.

I think this falls for that sponsored individual.

Before even advertising that gambling site, they should obviously know what kind of site they are dealing with. They should know what is his fans or supporters if what he/she's advertising is right for them. I don't think that it is huge of an issue, this still all falls under the person whom these gambling sites are sponsoring.


Title: Re: Sponsor Money from Casino, Is bad or Good?
Post by: 3meek on February 20, 2021, 06:41:17 AM
Any streamer, if he talks about any product or organization, does not do it for free! So I don't care whose money he uses... I don't really trust streamers or bloggers at all... It started with reviews of different ICOs ... :D


Title: Re: Sponsor Money from Casino, Is bad or Good?
Post by: Mauser on February 20, 2021, 07:49:10 AM


Right now, I'm want to hear everyone's opinion about sponsor money.

What do you things for some streamer who playing using sponsor money? did you feel that was not good or you have another opinion. IMO, I don't mind with some sponsor money as long the streamer admitted on the video he using sponsor money and not just say that was his own money when the reality the money came from sponsor money or even the worst scenario playing using demo money.

And of course, the casino that sponsors the money came from a reputable casino. I believe in bicointalk some casino even reputable casino was also offering this sponsor for some YouTuber or streamer.

I kinda feel got some entertainment from this even they playing with some sponsor money, as long the money sponsor not really a ridiculous amount.


I think using sponsored money is fine and a good way for a streamer to earn some money. You said yourself that every kind of business is doing some sorts of advertising and promotions. The gambling industry shouldn't be any different from it. Like on youtube almost every videos has some form of Ads in them, and I find gambling more interesting than mobile games. The only issue I have here is that the streamer should be forced to tell us if it is a promotion he is doing and if it is not actually his money. As long as there is a disclaimer in place and everybody knows what is going on than it is fine. Not like these case opening scams where the owners of the site would make videos of themselfs how they opened rigged cases and became rich. Such behaviour should not be allowed.


Title: Re: Sponsor Money from Casino, Is bad or Good?
Post by: iTradeChips on February 20, 2021, 09:34:04 AM
It is advertising and marketing purposes, so I am ok with that. Whoever the person that marketed the casino should have the creative freedoms to show the casino and the way he plays inside it. But sponsorships is usually a one way street. I mean let's get real folks, you don't pay someone only to give you a negative feedback, right? So the youtube or the celebrity simply shows you his experiences inside the casino and it is up to the audience to decide whether to go there or not.


Title: Re: Sponsor Money from Casino, Is bad or Good?
Post by: ultrloa on February 20, 2021, 10:00:15 AM
It is advertising and marketing purposes, so I am ok with that. Whoever the person that marketed the casino should have the creative freedoms to show the casino and the way he plays inside it. But sponsorships is usually a one way street. I mean let's get real folks, you don't pay someone only to give you a negative feedback, right? So the youtube or the celebrity simply shows you his experiences inside the casino and it is up to the audience to decide whether to go there or not.

There's no problem advertising a casino since its not really bad at all, but it matters on the credibility of casino since its really bad to advertise something without knowing the real information and background on what you are advertising and if this one could possibly create chaos due to upcoming scam well that will be a huge mistake by the advertiser since they are one of the tool on why those scam casino scam thousand or shall we say millions of dollars on their gamblers that's why we should verify if they good to advertise or not before we offer it to our audience.


Title: Re: Sponsor Money from Casino, Is bad or Good?
Post by: AmoreJaz on February 20, 2021, 11:32:23 AM
It is advertising and marketing purposes, so I am ok with that. Whoever the person that marketed the casino should have the creative freedoms to show the casino and the way he plays inside it. But sponsorships is usually a one way street. I mean let's get real folks, you don't pay someone only to give you a negative feedback, right? So the youtube or the celebrity simply shows you his experiences inside the casino and it is up to the audience to decide whether to go there or not.

There's no problem advertising a casino since its not really bad at all, but it matters on the credibility of casino since its really bad to advertise something without knowing the real information and background on what you are advertising and if this one could possibly create chaos due to upcoming scam well that will be a huge mistake by the advertiser since they are one of the tool on why those scam casino scam thousand or shall we say millions of dollars on their gamblers that's why we should verify if they good to advertise or not before we offer it to our audience.

this is where integrity of the endorser comes in. you will see his moral values in this regard. even if he is sponsoring a gambling site, he should make sure that he is promoting a legal one with no existing valid scam allegations. a responsible endorser knows what he is promoting and not only because he is after for the money that he will get.


Title: Re: Sponsor Money from Casino, Is bad or Good?
Post by: traderethereum on February 20, 2021, 12:43:14 PM
It is advertising and marketing purposes, so I am ok with that. Whoever the person that marketed the casino should have the creative freedoms to show the casino and the way he plays inside it. But sponsorships is usually a one way street. I mean let's get real folks, you don't pay someone only to give you a negative feedback, right? So the youtube or the celebrity simply shows you his experiences inside the casino and it is up to the audience to decide whether to go there or not.

There's no problem advertising a casino since its not really bad at all, but it matters on the credibility of casino since its really bad to advertise something without knowing the real information and background on what you are advertising and if this one could possibly create chaos due to upcoming scam well that will be a huge mistake by the advertiser since they are one of the tool on why those scam casino scam thousand or shall we say millions of dollars on their gamblers that's why we should verify if they good to advertise or not before we offer it to our audience.

this is where integrity of the endorser comes in. you will see his moral values in this regard. even if he is sponsoring a gambling site, he should make sure that he is promoting a legal one with no existing valid scam allegations. a responsible endorser knows what he is promoting and not only because he is after for the money that he will get.
But sometimes, the endorser does not know about illegal gambling or legal gambling because not all endorser will try to find out about that company or the sites.
As long as he can see the money behind that sponsorship, he will try to give the best for the company which hire them.
It will be a mistake for the endorser if he does that because it can risk his career.
Maybe the endorser needs to be careful if he gets an offer from the company, any company, and it will better to search for them before he accepts that.


Title: Re: Sponsor Money from Casino, Is bad or Good?
Post by: coin-investor on February 20, 2021, 01:09:07 PM


Here some sponsor offer I know from some casino:
  • Fully sponsor money
    This one of the most offer some casino give for promoting his casino, they paid some streamer or youtube and fully sponsor the money to play on their casino but with some condition, you cannot withdraw the money
  • Bonus deposit sponsor
    This sponsor was quite rare, I only know some casino that got this sponsor one of the example YouTubers called Drew. Yeah, he got a bonus sponsor deposit when he deposit around 3K USD the casino adds his balance around 2K off course without any requirement like minimum wagger

Right now, I'm want to hear everyone's opinion about sponsor money.


I prefer the second sponsor when playing in a casino, of course, you want the money you've won and you want it to withdraw, even if you are playing for entertainment, in the back of your mind you want to win and taste your winning by having the cash you've won, I consider sponsor money as good for casino marketing, it's part of marketing and not only casinos are doing this.


Title: Re: Sponsor Money from Casino, Is bad or Good?
Post by: freedomgo on February 20, 2021, 01:14:19 PM
Gambling itself is not bad, unless it's against your religion, you should not gamble.

But mostly we tackle gambling is whether it's legal or illegal, and as long as it's not illegal in a certain jurisdiction, it should no be bad as these operators are also contributing to the tax revenue of a certain country where they are operating.

I think what we spread is on how do people gamble responsibly.


Title: Re: Sponsor Money from Casino, Is bad or Good?
Post by: Taskford on February 20, 2021, 01:25:39 PM
It is advertising and marketing purposes, so I am ok with that. Whoever the person that marketed the casino should have the creative freedoms to show the casino and the way he plays inside it. But sponsorships is usually a one way street. I mean let's get real folks, you don't pay someone only to give you a negative feedback, right? So the youtube or the celebrity simply shows you his experiences inside the casino and it is up to the audience to decide whether to go there or not.

There's no problem advertising a casino since its not really bad at all, but it matters on the credibility of casino since its really bad to advertise something without knowing the real information and background on what you are advertising and if this one could possibly create chaos due to upcoming scam well that will be a huge mistake by the advertiser since they are one of the tool on why those scam casino scam thousand or shall we say millions of dollars on their gamblers that's why we should verify if they good to advertise or not before we offer it to our audience.

this is where integrity of the endorser comes in. you will see his moral values in this regard. even if he is sponsoring a gambling site, he should make sure that he is promoting a legal one with no existing valid scam allegations. a responsible endorser knows what he is promoting and not only because he is after for the money that he will get.
But sometimes, the endorser does not know about illegal gambling or legal gambling because not all endorser will try to find out about that company or the sites.
As long as he can see the money behind that sponsorship, he will try to give the best for the company which hire them.
It will be a mistake for the endorser if he does that because it can risk his career.
Maybe the endorser needs to be careful if he gets an offer from the company, any company, and it will better to search for them before he accepts that.

It's impossible that they will not do any research on what they are endorsing since it's a dumbest decision to accept whatever it is as long as they will get sponsor and be paid. I know they do a research about this but there are influencer especially those small ones who doesn't care about reputation since the one they aim is to get the paycheck and leave once there job is done.


Title: Re: Sponsor Money from Casino, Is bad or Good?
Post by: Kakmakr on February 20, 2021, 02:36:43 PM
Hey, as long as the Giveaways are coming hard and fast during the Stream...nobody will have a issue with it. Most of these people are begging for tips in chat in any way, so leeching money from the casino through the Steamer giveaways must be sponsored to survive for the next session. (Cheap advertising... mean more profit going to the casino and then more promotions for the gamblers)

Casino advertising is banned on most large platforms, so if they want to sponsor Streamers... then let them do that. I see no problem with that.. it is not unethical.  ::)


Title: Re: Sponsor Money from Casino, Is bad or Good?
Post by: Saint-loup on February 20, 2021, 02:53:18 PM
Here some sponsor offer I know from some casino:
  • Fully sponsor money
    This one of the most offer some casino give for promoting his casino, they paid some streamer or youtube and fully sponsor the money to play on their casino but with some condition, you cannot withdraw the money
  • Bonus deposit sponsor
    This sponsor was quite rare, I only know some casino that got this sponsor one of the example YouTubers called Drew. Yeah, he got a bonus sponsor deposit when he deposit around 3K USD the casino adds his balance around 2K off course without any requirement like minimum wagger

Right now, I'm want to hear everyone's opinion about sponsor money.
I prefer the second sponsor when playing in a casino, of course, you want the money you've won and you want it to withdraw, even if you are playing for entertainment, in the back of your mind you want to win and taste your winning by having the cash you've won, I consider sponsor money as good for casino marketing, it's part of marketing and not only casinos are doing this.
I agree with you, I won't say ryzaadit is wrong, but I really doubt many casinos are using this "fully sponsor money" system, because nobody is interested in gambling with fake money. The only interest in most of gambling games is to be able to win(or lose) real money precisely  :-\


Title: Re: Sponsor Money from Casino, Is bad or Good?
Post by: iamsheikhadil on February 20, 2021, 04:30:28 PM
I don't see anything wrong with that. It's just part of the advertising campaign and if you're a reasonable person you should understand that. In the same way, you can talk about, for example, clothes and appliances that streamer advertises. There is nothing wrong with the advertising itself.

There are, of course, situations when you can not be on the side of the streamer. For example, some casinos can give money to the streamer or blogger from the players who lost their referral link. Here I find it much harder to say that this is normal. Because if in the first situation, the steamer gets paid for advertising, then in the second situation, he is simply interested in losing his viewers. And he will actively offer to play to his viewers.
I didn't understand a word from your last paragraph. From what I have understood so far, you are saying that streamers are paid money from people who lost their referral links? What do you exactly mean here? It makes no sense at all. Why would any streamer be paid from other people instead of the casino itself? That's like we are paying our money to a streamer for sharing their gambling activity for no reason.


Title: Re: Sponsor Money from Casino, Is bad or Good?
Post by: shield132 on February 20, 2021, 05:08:54 PM
The most common in this case is Fully sponsor money. I am intro marketing field and while this kind of advertisement easily brings more customers to your company casino, it is unethical. The casino that runs this kind of marketing is mistaken and they have a very bad team. I strongly believe that marketing must strengthen the connection between the company and the user, must make a user interested in the product/service in a way where the user is pleased and doesn't blame you. You shouldn't make him a victim of marketing, it works well in short term but in long term - it sucks. And the aim of every business should be long term, you have to gain trust during this process and not negativity from customers and society.

At least that's how I think :)


Title: Re: Sponsor Money from Casino, Is bad or Good?
Post by: jrrsparkles on February 20, 2021, 05:36:19 PM
Any streamer, if he talks about any product or organization, does not do it for free! So I don't care whose money he uses... I don't really trust streamers or bloggers at all... It started with reviews of different ICOs ... :D
There are streamers who give honest review about the platforms which is even sponsored but we shouldn't have to trust them blindly because we are going to use our own money so basic research also important before choosing a new platform in any field.


Title: Re: Sponsor Money from Casino, Is bad or Good?
Post by: Becky666 on February 20, 2021, 06:02:54 PM
Any streamer, if he talks about any product or organization, does not do it for free! So I don't care whose money he uses... I don't really trust streamers or bloggers at all... It started with reviews of different ICOs ... :D
There are streamers who give honest review about the platforms which is even sponsored but we shouldn't have to trust them blindly because we are going to use our own money so basic research also important before choosing a new platform in any field.
Those whom your are referring to are very rare(streamers,bloggers and You-tubers) becasue they are paid for the advertisement, so, many of them tends to follow what won't hut the gambling platform rather just to give some reviews that won't represent the real casino. Have been a victim of this sometimes ago and have vowed that streamers and loggers are the most deceivers we have in the world, i don't trust their judgement.


Title: Re: Sponsor Money from Casino, Is bad or Good?
Post by: Oilacris on February 20, 2021, 08:52:41 PM
Any streamer, if he talks about any product or organization, does not do it for free! So I don't care whose money he uses... I don't really trust streamers or bloggers at all... It started with reviews of different ICOs ... :D
There are streamers who give honest review about the platforms which is even sponsored but we shouldn't have to trust them blindly because we are going to use our own money so basic research also important before choosing a new platform in any field.
Those whom your are referring to are very rare(streamers,bloggers and You-tubers) becasue they are paid for the advertisement, so, many of them tends to follow what won't hut the gambling platform rather just to give some reviews that won't represent the real casino. Have been a victim of this sometimes ago and have vowed that streamers and loggers are the most deceivers we have in the world, i don't trust their judgement.

Every streamers or vloggers are different, some of them are honest and some of them are deceiving and just trying to shill out on what had been paid for you to do so.

Its not surprising to have this kind of behavior since those are aiming on making money and if they do need to be somewhat biased in terms of their review then
its up to theirs.

As a watcher or follower then you would most likely be falling out to believe but we do all have that common sense thing where you can spot out
if something is unusual.


Title: Re: Sponsor Money from Casino, Is bad or Good?
Post by: plr on February 20, 2021, 11:29:26 PM
Sponsor money is a good marketing strategy people can test the gambling site as long as there is a stipulation that the review is independent, open, and will not totally shill the gambling site to the point that the reviewer will not tell his audiences the disadvantages of the gambling site his loyalty should be to his audience.


Title: Re: Sponsor Money from Casino, Is bad or Good?
Post by: KTChampions on February 20, 2021, 11:33:49 PM
Every streamers or vloggers are different, some of them are honest and some of them are deceiving and just trying to shill out on what had been paid for you to do so.

Its not surprising to have this kind of behavior since those are aiming on making money and if they do need to be somewhat biased in terms of their review then
its up to theirs.

As a watcher or follower then you would most likely be falling out to believe but we do all have that common sense thing where you can spot out
if something is unusual.

This is more true for low-level streamers and bloggers. Any top streamer understands that his main source of income is his reputation and audience attention. If he convinces to deceive his audience then he will quickly lose everything. Therefore, even if some top streamer is mistaken and advertises a controversial thing, then when claims appear, they usually apologize and clarify the issue.


Title: Re: Sponsor Money from Casino, Is bad or Good?
Post by: traderethereum on February 21, 2021, 06:49:40 AM
It is advertising and marketing purposes, so I am ok with that. Whoever the person that marketed the casino should have the creative freedoms to show the casino and the way he plays inside it. But sponsorships is usually a one way street. I mean let's get real folks, you don't pay someone only to give you a negative feedback, right? So the youtube or the celebrity simply shows you his experiences inside the casino and it is up to the audience to decide whether to go there or not.

There's no problem advertising a casino since its not really bad at all, but it matters on the credibility of casino since its really bad to advertise something without knowing the real information and background on what you are advertising and if this one could possibly create chaos due to upcoming scam well that will be a huge mistake by the advertiser since they are one of the tool on why those scam casino scam thousand or shall we say millions of dollars on their gamblers that's why we should verify if they good to advertise or not before we offer it to our audience.

this is where integrity of the endorser comes in. you will see his moral values in this regard. even if he is sponsoring a gambling site, he should make sure that he is promoting a legal one with no existing valid scam allegations. a responsible endorser knows what he is promoting and not only because he is after for the money that he will get.
But sometimes, the endorser does not know about illegal gambling or legal gambling because not all endorser will try to find out about that company or the sites.
As long as he can see the money behind that sponsorship, he will try to give the best for the company which hire them.
It will be a mistake for the endorser if he does that because it can risk his career.
Maybe the endorser needs to be careful if he gets an offer from the company, any company, and it will better to search for them before he accepts that.

It's impossible that they will not do any research on what they are endorsing since it's a dumbest decision to accept whatever it is as long as they will get sponsor and be paid. I know they do a research about this but there are influencer especially those small ones who doesn't care about reputation since the one they aim is to get the paycheck and leave once there job is done.
Well, that can happen. Maybe they do not research for the details, and maybe they do not even think about the illegal and legal gambling site.
Not all of them will do that, and we know that if people can get offers, some big money will not research because the money tempts them.
Some influencers on the blog do not relate to their field, but they accept offers about something different from what they did.
But that will be up to them because that is their job and field.
Besides that, we do not know much about them.
Maybe if that influence is our friend, we can suggest them to research the company before deciding.


Title: Re: Sponsor Money from Casino, Is bad or Good?
Post by: LUCKMCFLY on February 21, 2021, 07:11:16 AM
Any streamer, if he talks about any product or organization, does not do it for free! So I don't care whose money he uses... I don't really trust streamers or bloggers at all... It started with reviews of different ICOs ... :D
There are streamers who give honest review about the platforms which is even sponsored but we shouldn't have to trust them blindly because we are going to use our own money so basic research also important before choosing a new platform in any field.
Those whom your are referring to are very rare(streamers,bloggers and You-tubers) becasue they are paid for the advertisement, so, many of them tends to follow what won't hut the gambling platform rather just to give some reviews that won't represent the real casino. Have been a victim of this sometimes ago and have vowed that streamers and loggers are the most deceivers we have in the world, i don't trust their judgement.

Every streamers or vloggers are different, some of them are honest and some of them are deceiving and just trying to shill out on what had been paid for you to do so.

Its not surprising to have this kind of behavior since those are aiming on making money and if they do need to be somewhat biased in terms of their review then
its up to theirs.

As a watcher or follower then you would most likely be falling out to believe but we do all have that common sense thing where you can spot out
if something is unusual.

Currently in this bullish market, any streamer can tell you that anything or casino, site, can be excellent, because firstly you will see if you receive good pay and second if you see a future, sometimes they get followers because they say what people want to hear and not what they really should say.

Those of me who are more famous spend some time researching and studying, their followers are more loyal, even if they make mistakes, but you have to remember that everything is a business model and that everyone seeks their benefit.


Title: Re: Sponsor Money from Casino, Is bad or Good?
Post by: Mauser on February 21, 2021, 07:32:02 AM
Sponsor money is a good marketing strategy people can test the gambling site as long as there is a stipulation that the review is independent, open, and will not totally shill the gambling site to the point that the reviewer will not tell his audiences the disadvantages of the gambling site his loyalty should be to his audience.

I fully agree,the casino needs to advertise their products as well and a sponsorship is the best way to do so. It is not about tricking people into your games, rather to show the games are working and what kind of possibilities the gamblers have. With the right sponsorship in place a casino can reach a lot of new customers. And as long as the casino is straightforward and open about their promotions than it's a pretty good deal for us gamblers.


Title: Re: Sponsor Money from Casino, Is bad or Good?
Post by: cabron on February 21, 2021, 07:45:28 AM
Sponsor money is a good marketing strategy people can test the gambling site as long as there is a stipulation that the review is independent, open, and will not totally shill the gambling site to the point that the reviewer will not tell his audiences the disadvantages of the gambling site his loyalty should be to his audience.

I fully agree,the casino needs to advertise their products as well and a sponsorship is the best way to do so. It is not about tricking people into your games, rather to show the games are working and what kind of possibilities the gamblers have. With the right sponsorship in place a casino can reach a lot of new customers. And as long as the casino is straightforward and open about their promotions than it's a pretty good deal for us gamblers.

Sponsoring gamers and athletes I think is the new game they have these days. They use to fight over the ranking on search engines that they are trying to get some organic traffic but now they find it not worth it. Sportsbet sponsored a soccer team and from there it builds its reputation and marketing. For someone who bets in soccer games, he will instantly notice the casino.


Title: Re: Sponsor Money from Casino, Is bad or Good?
Post by: iamsheikhadil on February 21, 2021, 08:04:35 AM
Sponsor money is a good marketing strategy people can test the gambling site as long as there is a stipulation that the review is independent, open, and will not totally shill the gambling site to the point that the reviewer will not tell his audiences the disadvantages of the gambling site his loyalty should be to his audience.

More often than not, when one is paid to promote a service/product, he will definitely cherry pick mostly the positive information and facts :P but casinos can make up for it, if they decide this then they can come out fully transparent to the audiences and will have more reputation which is if the casino pays the sponsored person to actively respond to criticism and making suggestions for improving the site, it will lead to a win-win situation for all, the casino, the sponsored person and the customers :)


Title: Re: Sponsor Money from Casino, Is bad or Good?
Post by: Hypnosis00 on February 21, 2021, 08:20:34 AM
It's never bad. Gambling is a business, it's just like an entertainment where people spend and hope for a chance to win.
If promoters are allowed to promote cigars or liquor which is bad for our health why would they prevent gambling from getting promoted?

There's no sense on this honestly, people have different interest in life, they can do whatever they want as long as it's not illegal.


Title: Re: Sponsor Money from Casino, Is bad or Good?
Post by: Wexnident on February 21, 2021, 08:33:32 AM
Sponsor money is a good marketing strategy people can test the gambling site as long as there is a stipulation that the review is independent, open, and will not totally shill the gambling site to the point that the reviewer will not tell his audiences the disadvantages of the gambling site his loyalty should be to his audience.

More often than not, when one is paid to promote a service/product, he will definitely cherry pick mostly the positive information and facts :P but casinos can make up for it, if they decide this then they can come out fully transparent to the audiences and will have more reputation which is if the casino pays the sponsored person to actively respond to criticism and making suggestions for improving the site, it will lead to a win-win situation for all, the casino, the sponsored person and the customers :)
Well, it is a paid advertisement though, it isn't that odd that those who got paid would showcase the positive sides of what their presenting. Still, it isn't necessarily bad since most people tend to look at what they need on something, and an advertiser presenting the positives of the system should be more than enough for them to know if that's what they're looking for or not. Not to mention that most casinos in the end, are almost copies of the same thing, with a few unique things only. At this point, gamblers just choose casinos that are quite friendly to their users.


Title: Re: Sponsor Money from Casino, Is bad or Good?
Post by: newwest on February 21, 2021, 09:17:40 AM
It's never bad. Gambling is a business, it's just like an entertainment where people spend and hope for a chance to win.
If promoters are allowed to promote cigars or liquor which is bad for our health why would they prevent gambling from getting promoted?

There's no sense on this honestly, people have different interest in life, they can do whatever they want as long as it's not illegal.

This make sense when you have ads of the things which re not healthy for life then no way not to have the gambling ads. Just like on cigarette a cautionary note same way while on gambling ads you can have a cautionary notes and also till the time it is legal in a country or where the ads are placed it should be all fine.


Title: Re: Sponsor Money from Casino, Is bad or Good?
Post by: FIFA worldcup on February 21, 2021, 09:23:07 AM
Any streamer, if he talks about any product or organization, does not do it for free! So I don't care whose money he uses... I don't really trust streamers or bloggers at all... It started with reviews of different ICOs ... :D
There are streamers who give honest review about the platforms which is even sponsored but we shouldn't have to trust them blindly because we are going to use our own money so basic research also important before choosing a new platform in any field.
Those whom your are referring to are very rare(streamers,bloggers and You-tubers) becasue they are paid for the advertisement, so, many of them tends to follow what won't hut the gambling platform rather just to give some reviews that won't represent the real casino. Have been a victim of this sometimes ago and have vowed that streamers and loggers are the most deceivers we have in the world, i don't trust their judgement.

When you have  big YouTube channel or any other platform social media platform, the business will reach out to you to promote their business and services. Its upto the person if he first research the platform and give correct feedback about the platform. If someone takes the sponsor money and promote the scam gambling project, he will lose his audience.


Title: Re: Sponsor Money from Casino, Is bad or Good?
Post by: Janation on February 21, 2021, 09:28:18 AM
Any streamer, if he talks about any product or organization, does not do it for free! So I don't care whose money he uses... I don't really trust streamers or bloggers at all... It started with reviews of different ICOs ... :D
There are streamers who give honest review about the platforms which is even sponsored but we shouldn't have to trust them blindly because we are going to use our own money so basic research also important before choosing a new platform in any field.

Better do your own research.

There are a lot of kinds of streamers/YouTubers and not all of them are honest with their reviews. They are also smart and might throw us off with some discounts and promos but it is better to do your own research or maybe ask about it here in the forum. Another thing is that as far as I know, ads on Youtube that are related to alcohol and gambling can be turned off. If viewers can do this, why accept those ads in the first place?


Title: Re: Sponsor Money from Casino, Is bad or Good?
Post by: virasisog on February 21, 2021, 09:44:01 AM
Any streamer, if he talks about any product or organization, does not do it for free! So I don't care whose money he uses... I don't really trust streamers or bloggers at all... It started with reviews of different ICOs ... :D
There are streamers who give honest review about the platforms which is even sponsored but we shouldn't have to trust them blindly because we are going to use our own money so basic research also important before choosing a new platform in any field.

Better do your own research.

There are a lot of kinds of streamers/YouTubers and not all of them are honest with their reviews. They are also smart and might throw us off with some discounts and promos but it is better to do your own research or maybe ask about it here in the forum. Another thing is that as far as I know, ads on Youtube that are related to alcohol and gambling can be turned off. If viewers can do this, why accept those ads in the first place?

There are streamers and Bloggers in our country who had promoted some applications or investment schemes which I think they haven't reviewed at all. This happens to a lot of bloggers or streamers since they only care about getting paid for what they are advertising. They should consider their responsibility as an influencer and should be honest with their reviews whether they are paid or not. That is why as a viewer due diligence is still needed even if something is promoted by famous streamers or bloggers, make your own research.


Title: Re: Sponsor Money from Casino, Is bad or Good?
Post by: fullhdpixel on February 21, 2021, 04:08:42 PM
In my opinion, the good thing is related to sponsor money from casino, because it can increase Youtuber's income. And the casino is profitable too with promotions on the YouTube platform. This is mutually beneficial for both parties. Most importantly, youtubers must have the integrity that they don't promote casinos that are cheating and scams. Because the current YouTube audience is very large and continues to increase, so if promoting bad casinos. There will be many victims who will be harmed. So go ahead and fully sponsor or bonus deposit sponsor, both in my opinion are as good.
I fully agree with you that while taking money from casinos to promote some of their games is a great idea because it helps the viewers keep engaged and the streamer also makes some money while playing the games and entertaining the audience but they must make sure that the due diligence is done and they should test the integrity of the games and the legitimacy of the casino itself.

I myself love streams from Edward of stake (Eddie) on weekends but at the same time if someone is promoting a scam like 1xbit then I will never appreciate the streamer no matter who it is.


Title: Re: Sponsor Money from Casino, Is bad or Good?
Post by: dunfida on February 21, 2021, 07:53:55 PM

I fully agree with you that while taking money from casinos to promote some of their games is a great idea because it helps the viewers keep engaged and the streamer also makes some money while playing the games and entertaining the audience but they must make sure that the due diligence is done and they should test the integrity of the games and the legitimacy of the casino itself.

I myself love streams from Edward of stake (Eddie) on weekends but at the same time if someone is promoting a scam like 1xbit then I will never appreciate the streamer no matter who it is.

I agree with you. In general, I have no complaints about the casino ads. I have already written here that I do not see anything wrong with it.

However, if the streamer is engaged in deception or advertising fraudulent casino. Then I have a negative attitude to it appears. Because he does not appreciate his audience.
Its on streamers responsibility for him to accept out only tasks or offers that do came from legit gambling sites or companies
because advertising a scam or shady site or service will really be making out some serious negative reflections towards him
and thats the thing they dont want to happen.You are right and same as yours that i dont have any against with this one
because its just part of advertising which we do know its been a typical part of a business.


Title: Re: Sponsor Money from Casino, Is bad or Good?
Post by: just_Alice on February 21, 2021, 09:50:48 PM
I think it's okay if casinos advertise using streamers/youtubers and sponsor money. It's a fair and, I think, effective way to increase your brand recognition and attract a new audience, no one should blame them for that. As for me, this kind of advertisement is even better in some ways, than, say, a web banner. The video allows you to see the software, some cool features, and some pitfalls at the same time, these vids are often honest and straightforward about everything, which I like. Plus, like you said, it can be entertaining.


Title: Re: Sponsor Money from Casino, Is bad or Good?
Post by: Lorence.xD on February 22, 2021, 06:37:32 AM
I think it's okay if casinos advertise using streamers/youtubers and sponsor money. It's a fair and, I think, effective way to increase your brand recognition and attract a new audience, no one should blame them for that. As for me, this kind of advertisement is even better in some ways, than, say, a web banner. The video allows you to see the software, some cool features, and some pitfalls at the same time, these vids are often honest and straightforward about everything, which I like. Plus, like you said, it can be entertaining.
It is fair definitely, I don't get why OP thinks that there should be a choice between good and bad. I think that it is the other way around, are the sponsors getting a good person to promote their product/services which is in this case an online casino? I think that web banner has its limits though, with sponsored content creators, they can artfully present your product/services plus they already have an established audiences that may get curious and check out what their favorite Youtuber or Streamer is promoting.


Title: Re: Sponsor Money from Casino, Is bad or Good?
Post by: TedMosby on February 22, 2021, 07:14:58 AM
-snip-

Here some sponsor offer I know from some casino:
  • Fully sponsor money
    This one of the most offer some casino give for promoting his casino, they paid some streamer or youtube and fully sponsor the money to play on their casino but with some condition, you cannot withdraw the money
  • Bonus deposit sponsor
    This sponsor was quite rare, I only know some casino that got this sponsor one of the example YouTubers called Drew. Yeah, he got a bonus sponsor deposit when he deposit around 3K USD the casino adds his balance around 2K off course without any requirement like minimum wagger

Right now, I'm want to hear everyone's opinion about sponsor money.

What do you things for some streamer who playing using sponsor money? did you feel that was not good or you have another opinion. IMO, I don't mind with some sponsor money as long the streamer admitted on the video he using sponsor money and not just say that was his own money when the reality the money came from sponsor money or even the worst scenario playing using demo money.

-snip-

is that fully sponsor money that you mention above is the same thing as a free bet?
you can only withdraw the money that you get from your winning by using that free money.

also, I believe that bonus deposit sponsor has the same term and conditions as a free bet.
the difference is, the free bet bonus is bigger compared to a regular user since YouTubers are influential.

sometimes I got a sponsorship agreement that has some strict disclosure that said, I can't say the content is a sponsored, promoted, paid content, or something related to that.
they want me to make soft-selling content that looks organic. So, I can say that those YouTubers might be doing the same thing.


Title: Re: Sponsor Money from Casino, Is bad or Good?
Post by: jaberwock on February 22, 2021, 08:25:19 AM
It will actually both beneficial for both sides. It's a part of business and promoters and streamers really deserve to be paid or sponsored because they're promoting or advertising a certain site. As for me, it's also important that they'll receive sponsor money so they will be able to test the site as well. It's a marketing strategy but an opportunity for streamers as well.
Some sites will award the streamer with 50 free spins on some slots and the streamer keeps the winnings, which is something I really like because we as viewers get a better understanding how particular slots work while the person streaming gets some money for his efforts.

Money is good as long as your are promoting a legit casino so you are not risking your future for few thousands dollars. There is nothing wrong with influencers getting such sponsor for promotion and that is why they become influencer or just take advantage of being one of them.
I actually used to hate slots until I saw some guys playing games like Fruit Party and Sweet Bonanza which is how I actually got into slots otherwise I used to just bet on sports and occasionally roll dice and maybe some card games. I love the concept of people streaming and playing slots but only real and paying ones, some slots are terrible and I believe their RTP is around 50-60 or even less. Good ones have RTP of 90 or around that mark.

Guys always check RTP if possible when playing a slot game, RTP means expected Return To Player which basically determines the house edge. Anything from 90-95 is normal and good.


Title: Re: Sponsor Money from Casino, Is bad or Good?
Post by: dimonstration on February 22, 2021, 08:22:15 PM
Once you a promote a project make sure you will get a money because that is your part of your advertise or streamer to get money because there is no free now. But it depends on their agreement on what they do on money they get on the casino while their advertising it. Also a streamer will protect their watchers too because it will cause you blaming to the other people once you promoting not good gambling sites.

Streamers, Bloggers especially those influential should be paid well depending on their discussion, it can be cash or thru playing in their casino it will depend on them. What’s good if those promoter also really use their casino so it will seem natural whenever the promoter use and promote their website. What will be bad is when they us their clips but never paid them. Streamers and vloggers now were beneficial in every online business now.


Title: Re: Sponsor Money from Casino, Is bad or Good?
Post by: vintages on February 22, 2021, 08:59:42 PM
This particular issue has always been confusing some games or casino influencers.
I feel there is nothing wrong with sponsorship. However, it's best the influencer or promoter make research about the casino to understand their authenticity and if they are not violating any law before promoting it. This is the best and the right way, in every business.


Title: Re: Sponsor Money from Casino, Is bad or Good?
Post by: Quidat on February 22, 2021, 11:14:14 PM
Once you a promote a project make sure you will get a money because that is your part of your advertise or streamer to get money because there is no free now. But it depends on their agreement on what they do on money they get on the casino while their advertising it. Also a streamer will protect their watchers too because it will cause you blaming to the other people once you promoting not good gambling sites.

Streamers, Bloggers especially those influential should be paid well depending on their discussion, it can be cash or thru playing in their casino it will depend on them. What’s good if those promoter also really use their casino so it will seem natural whenever the promoter use and promote their website. What will be bad is when they us their clips but never paid them. Streamers and vloggers now were beneficial in every online business now.
With this hi-tech era then its totally normal for these online influencers would really be that relevant in terms of advertisement since majority of people now are doing online
most of the time which means traffic is really immense where they can really make use of these vloggers,influencial people on net to take advantage when it comes
to exposure and product/service awareness.Of course they would really be discussing about payments which is normal.I dont see any wrong with it
as long it doesnt involve any form of deception or non fairness.


Title: Re: Sponsor Money from Casino, Is bad or Good?
Post by: ecnalubma on February 23, 2021, 05:15:52 PM
I does not mean that if a popular youtuber sponsored by a newly build casino that I will play there right away. These casinos need to build community, sponsoring someone to promote their platform is not enough to gain customers. Online casinos should be straightforward and highlights the benefits of using their platform.


Title: Re: Sponsor Money from Casino, Is bad or Good?
Post by: ScamViruS on February 23, 2021, 05:59:42 PM
If a casino makes a review with a YouTuber with money for advertising, then that's not a bad thing. If a YouTuber gets a sponsor, it can be very useful for him, he can earn some extras through his videos. But in this case, YouTuber must take responsibility and make a review video on a good project, maintaining its own reputation and the loyalty of the viewers.

Because after watching his video, many people will be interested in using that casino, so if that website is bad, it will be dangerous for gamblers.


Title: Re: Sponsor Money from Casino, Is bad or Good?
Post by: tabas on February 23, 2021, 09:13:06 PM
Also a streamer will protect their watchers too because it will cause you blaming to the other people once you promoting not good gambling sites.
This is hard for streamers that have kid viewers. I've seen streamers for certain games and some casinos are also sponsoring them because they have the game on their bookie. But some streamers don't mind about younger audience as long as they give disclaimer and warning for those younger audiences that they have. It is on the one that's being sponsored and also to the sponsor if there's a lot of viewers that will saw their ad. It's just another business matter from streamers to the casinos.


Title: Re: Sponsor Money from Casino, Is bad or Good?
Post by: Silberman on February 24, 2021, 03:26:12 AM
Any streamer, if he talks about any product or organization, does not do it for free! So I don't care whose money he uses... I don't really trust streamers or bloggers at all... It started with reviews of different ICOs ... :D
I think we all know that for the most part any review you see online has some ulterior motive, that is not really the issue, as I have said if a person receives some money to test the functions of a casino and then that person gives his honest opinion about it then there is nothing really wrong, but if he gives a positive review in exchange for the money then that is no longer a fair review and it is nothing more than a fake review in which case the review itself is not worth anything if that is the case.


Title: Re: Sponsor Money from Casino, Is bad or Good?
Post by: Peanutswar on February 24, 2021, 04:09:53 AM
I saw different streamer or YouTuber using a banner or advertisement on their intro about their sponsors which is a paid thing too so that's why they include this to their edits, to those people who uses a balance came from the different websites the sponsors give just a small amount so the promoter will use this, of course, its a quite bit loss to them if they give a large amount of money and then the endorser will take a withdrawal too. Of course, the sponsors will go through different platform and promotions like in e-sports, sports, casual and other related things there is possible gambling inside. It's a potential user to the sponsors if they expand more about their promotions.


Title: Re: Sponsor Money from Casino, Is bad or Good?
Post by: Xinarae* on February 24, 2021, 04:18:52 AM
In return for the money, each site carries out its activities and has a purpose. Due to the weakness of the computer system just as a hacker can hack and run as he pleases so can hack a human head and run as he pleases he also hacked people's healthy thoughts their desire to understand the harm of the drug or to eliminate it i think casino is quite a sponsor from streamer. In the case of streamers the market needs to be reviewed a lot, but casinos are popular in many places and it is easy to find the right purpose by analyzing the market in the right way if you play for money you have to review the market.


Title: Re: Sponsor Money from Casino, Is bad or Good?
Post by: traderethereum on February 24, 2021, 04:23:50 AM
I does not mean that if a popular youtuber sponsored by a newly build casino that I will play there right away. These casinos need to build community, sponsoring someone to promote their platform is not enough to gain customers. Online casinos should be straightforward and highlights the benefits of using their platform.
Yes, I think the casino will not suggest or force the YouTuber to play gambling because that will be the YouTuber's decision.
If the YouTuber can try to gamble on the site he promoted, that can give the site more viewers or visitors. Still, the casino needs to warn the YouTuber or their viewers that playing gambling will be their responsibility and never use big money to gamble.
That will be a good suggestion to every people who watch the advertisement, and the viewers will see that the casino gives a warning before they gamble.
That kind of sponsor is one way to promote their platform so that the casino can grow day by day.


Title: Re: Sponsor Money from Casino, Is bad or Good?
Post by: RealMalatesta on February 24, 2021, 02:33:25 PM
This particular issue has always been confusing some games or casino influencers.
I feel there is nothing wrong with sponsorship. However, it's best the influencer or promoter make research about the casino to understand their authenticity and if they are not violating any law before promoting it. This is the best and the right way, in every business.
Even if they are promoting a legit casino, I don't like it too much because the person who is taking money will try and highlight only the good things about a casino and avoid talking the weak points. It is rather better to promote a casino and use your affiliate links because this way you can talk more freely about the casino and some problems that might exist. Like if a casino has manual withdrawals then you can say it when promoting affiliate links but the same can't be done when you are taking money to promote the casino.

The whole idea of paid-promotion ultimately causes problems to the players and hence I suggest affiliate marketing is the better version pf paid-promotion and also gives the referrer more commissions in long term.


Title: Re: Sponsor Money from Casino, Is bad or Good?
Post by: uneng on February 24, 2021, 09:17:53 PM
This particular issue has always been confusing some games or casino influencers.
I feel there is nothing wrong with sponsorship. However, it's best the influencer or promoter make research about the casino to understand their authenticity and if they are not violating any law before promoting it. This is the best and the right way, in every business.
Even if they are promoting a legit casino, I don't like it too much because the person who is taking money will try and highlight only the good things about a casino and avoid talking the weak points. It is rather better to promote a casino and use your affiliate links because this way you can talk more freely about the casino and some problems that might exist. Like if a casino has manual withdrawals then you can say it when promoting affiliate links but the same can't be done when you are taking money to promote the casino.

The whole idea of paid-promotion ultimately causes problems to the players and hence I suggest affiliate marketing is the better version pf paid-promotion and also gives the referrer more commissions in long term.
Usually people promoting casinos through their referral links will also highlight only the good side of the casino and they will post a positive video showing strategies that will lead to winning results. This way, the streamer incentives the viewer to reproduce the same strategy on the site, as the exhibited strategy indicates it works fine on that specific site.
For most people this approach should looks ridiculous, but there is still a public which fall for this and generate some income through the referral link for the streamer.


Title: Re: Sponsor Money from Casino, Is bad or Good?
Post by: Mahanton on February 24, 2021, 09:22:29 PM
This particular issue has always been confusing some games or casino influencers.
I feel there is nothing wrong with sponsorship. However, it's best the influencer or promoter make research about the casino to understand their authenticity and if they are not violating any law before promoting it. This is the best and the right way, in every business.
Even if they are promoting a legit casino, I don't like it too much because the person who is taking money will try and highlight only the good things about a casino and avoid talking the weak points. It is rather better to promote a casino and use your affiliate links because this way you can talk more freely about the casino and some problems that might exist. Like if a casino has manual withdrawals then you can say it when promoting affiliate links but the same can't be done when you are taking money to promote the casino.

The whole idea of paid-promotion ultimately causes problems to the players and hence I suggest affiliate marketing is the better version pf paid-promotion and also gives the referrer more commissions in long term.
Usually people promoting casinos through their referral links will also highlight only the good side of the casino and they will post a positive video showing strategies that will lead to winning results. This way, the streamer incentives the viewer to reproduce the same strategy on the site, as the exhibited strategy indicates it works fine on that specific site.
For most people this approach should looks ridiculous, but there is still a public which fall for this and generate some income through the referral link for the streamer.
They wont really be putting or allocating budget for this if this weren't effective at all.Of course there are still people whom do fall with this very basic scheme
and this is why this kind of promotion and advertisement is still effective somewhat because not all would really be having that the same mindset when it comes to things like this.
Just like what others said that I don't see anything wrong with this because its up to our own will if we decide to play or not after we do see those
streamers out there showing off some strategies or awesome bets on a certain site.


Title: Re: Sponsor Money from Casino, Is bad or Good?
Post by: AliMan on February 24, 2021, 09:48:58 PM
I does not mean that if a popular youtuber sponsored by a newly build casino that I will play there right away. These casinos need to build community, sponsoring someone to promote their platform is not enough to gain customers. Online casinos should be straightforward and highlights the benefits of using their platform.
Yes, I think the casino will not suggest or force the YouTuber to play gambling because that will be the YouTuber's decision.
If the YouTuber can try to gamble on the site he promoted, that can give the site more viewers or visitors. Still, the casino needs to warn the YouTuber or their viewers that playing gambling will be their responsibility and never use big money to gamble.
That will be a good suggestion to every people who watch the advertisement, and the viewers will see that the casino gives a warning before they gamble.
That kind of sponsor is one way to promote their platform so that the casino can grow day by day.

Indeed, promotions is always a good potential to grow a certain business in order to compete with several gambling sites. We have our freedom to choose and with respect to bad or good, that just depends on a perspective of an individual who judge a certain idea about gambling. Because, generally you can't figure our a person who been ruined by gambling and it's only the effect of his bad habits we consider gambling to become bad. With respect on sponsorship there's no definite judgement but purely business.


Title: Re: Sponsor Money from Casino, Is bad or Good?
Post by: traderethereum on February 25, 2021, 05:15:34 AM
I does not mean that if a popular youtuber sponsored by a newly build casino that I will play there right away. These casinos need to build community, sponsoring someone to promote their platform is not enough to gain customers. Online casinos should be straightforward and highlights the benefits of using their platform.
Yes, I think the casino will not suggest or force the YouTuber to play gambling because that will be the YouTuber's decision.
If the YouTuber can try to gamble on the site he promoted, that can give the site more viewers or visitors. Still, the casino needs to warn the YouTuber or their viewers that playing gambling will be their responsibility and never use big money to gamble.
That will be a good suggestion to every people who watch the advertisement, and the viewers will see that the casino gives a warning before they gamble.
That kind of sponsor is one way to promote their platform so that the casino can grow day by day.
Indeed, promotions is always a good potential to grow a certain business in order to compete with several gambling sites. We have our freedom to choose and with respect to bad or good, that just depends on a perspective of an individual who judge a certain idea about gambling. Because, generally you can't figure our a person who been ruined by gambling and it's only the effect of his bad habits we consider gambling to become bad. With respect on sponsorship there's no definite judgement but purely business.
I think people who follow the Youtuber to playing gambling will not think about Youtuber's invitation because he will busy playing gambling on that site.
So if you are watching the ads on Youtube coincidentally, you can just skip the ads and watch the other ads, which will not make you curious about the gambling games.
But unfortunately, many people do not know about that, and they visit that gambling site and playing for some rounds using the free money or welcome bonus from the site.
The sponsorship will benefit both Youtube and the gambling site, and people will need to be wise if they watch the ads.


Title: Re: Sponsor Money from Casino, Is bad or Good?
Post by: AicecreaME on February 25, 2021, 11:21:47 AM

Here some sponsor offer I know from some casino:
  • Fully sponsor money
    This one of the most offer some casino give for promoting his casino, they paid some streamer or youtube and fully sponsor the money to play on their casino but with some condition, you cannot withdraw the money

I'll be frankly honest, I mean what's the point of the whole sponsorship if an influencer or a YouTube can't withdraw the money that's been given to him by a certain casino? I won't do it if I'm going to be in that situation since I don't see any merits doing so.

  • Bonus deposit sponsor
    This sponsor was quite rare, I only know some casino that got this sponsor one of the example YouTubers called Drew. Yeah, he got a bonus sponsor deposit when he deposit around 3K USD the casino adds his balance around 2K off course without any requirement like minimum wagger

Is the 2K added on his balance is withdrawable or not? if not, then again, what's the point of having it in the first place? since it's going to be lost anyway in just a matter of time because that's how casino set up their thirst trap in gambling to gain more players in their sites or physical casinos.

My opinion is that don't accept easily such sponsorship because it might not be good for everybody seeing it on one of your videos on YouTube or one of your streams online, it might lead to decreasing of followers and subscribers because they might find it a turn off or whatsoever.


Title: Re: Sponsor Money from Casino, Is bad or Good?
Post by: ryzaadit on February 25, 2021, 05:50:02 PM
I'll be frankly honest, I mean what's the point of the whole sponsorship if an influencer or a YouTube can't withdraw the money that's been given to him by a certain casino? I won't do it if I'm going to be in that situation since I don't see any merits doing so.
n one of your videos on YouTube or one of your streams online, it might lead to decreasing of followers and subscribers because they might find it a turn off or whatsoever.
They already got some contract before making the video, so for example you hired YouTuber to make one video review for 100-200$ then they will give sponsor money to play on real balance but cannot be withdrawn.

The Youtuber will got a nice payment directly from them not from the balance he used for make the video.

Is the 2K added on his balance is withdrawable or not? if not, then again, what's the point of having it in the first place? since it's going to be lost anyway in just a matter of time because that's how casino set up their thirst trap in gambling to gain more players in their sites or physical casinos.
Of course withdrawable because he also deposit his own money, but with some proof you also playing on the casino while taking some bonus from them. One more things, its a marketing off course the purpose to do this to gain some user to play on their casino.

You see your signature? for what purpose they creating the signature and you participated on their signature did you think they doing this because just wanna some fun with it ? It's promotion their site right to play on their casino.


Title: Re: Sponsor Money from Casino, Is bad or Good?
Post by: Oilacris on February 25, 2021, 06:33:11 PM
I does not mean that if a popular youtuber sponsored by a newly build casino that I will play there right away. These casinos need to build community, sponsoring someone to promote their platform is not enough to gain customers. Online casinos should be straightforward and highlights the benefits of using their platform.
Yes, I think the casino will not suggest or force the YouTuber to play gambling because that will be the YouTuber's decision.
If the YouTuber can try to gamble on the site he promoted, that can give the site more viewers or visitors. Still, the casino needs to warn the YouTuber or their viewers that playing gambling will be their responsibility and never use big money to gamble.
That will be a good suggestion to every people who watch the advertisement, and the viewers will see that the casino gives a warning before they gamble.
That kind of sponsor is one way to promote their platform so that the casino can grow day by day.

Indeed, promotions is always a good potential to grow a certain business in order to compete with several gambling sites. We have our freedom to choose and with respect to bad or good, that just depends on a perspective of an individual who judge a certain idea about gambling. Because, generally you can't figure our a person who been ruined by gambling and it's only the effect of his bad habits we consider gambling to become bad. With respect on sponsorship there's no definite judgement but purely business.
With this very fierce competition of this gambling industry then they would really be needing all sorts of possible kind of promotion even though they would be ending up on using those

streamers or vloggers for widespread audience or awareness or exposure.I dont see anything wrong because someone could really be having their own decision on what they are
currently seeing.

This doesnt talk about money being spend neither sponsored or personal but rather on the actual experience of such player into the site.You can see it on your very own
eyes if its interesting or just ordinary stuffs.


Title: Re: Sponsor Money from Casino, Is bad or Good?
Post by: Fredomago on February 25, 2021, 07:30:01 PM
With this very fierce competition of this gambling industry then they would really be needing all sorts of possible kind of promotion even though they would be ending up on using those

streamers or vloggers for widespread audience or awareness or exposure.I dont see anything wrong because someone could really be having their own decision on what they are
currently seeing.

This doesnt talk about money being spend neither sponsored or personal but rather on the actual experience of such player into the site.You can see it on your very own
eyes if its interesting or just ordinary stuffs.

All venues of possible advertisement are being sorted by business owners, and like what you have said since we are now more on digital market, using streamers and vloggers might help for more widespread advertising.

Not bad since both are in win win situation, gambling site owners will gained audiences and posible gamblers to visits, traffics and additional gamblers to use the platform, while with streamers and vloggers some sort of compensation will be rewarded for the job
that they've done helping to promote the gambling business site.


Title: Re: Sponsor Money from Casino, Is bad or Good?
Post by: KTChampions on February 25, 2021, 10:06:07 PM
This particular issue has always been confusing some games or casino influencers.
I feel there is nothing wrong with sponsorship. However, it's best the influencer or promoter make research about the casino to understand their authenticity and if they are not violating any law before promoting it. This is the best and the right way, in every business.

The problem is that you cannot conduct a full study of the legality of the casino business - they are mostly registered in offshore companies and you can assess the legality of their activities only by the comments of their users (are there any problems or not). But even user reviews cannot be trusted as they can be fake.


Title: Re: Sponsor Money from Casino, Is bad or Good?
Post by: blockman on February 25, 2021, 10:17:21 PM
I'll be frankly honest, I mean what's the point of the whole sponsorship if an influencer or a YouTube can't withdraw the money that's been given to him by a certain casino? I won't do it if I'm going to be in that situation since I don't see any merits doing so.
It's an x-deal.
There are promoters that are good with whatever deal they'll take from the sponsors. And these sponsors can give any kind of deal that they want to the promoters.
That's why they can just take as much as they want just to give themselves branding and they're being sponsored by a company.


Title: Re: Sponsor Money from Casino, Is bad or Good?
Post by: Twinkledoe on February 25, 2021, 11:07:55 PM
This particular issue has always been confusing some games or casino influencers.
I feel there is nothing wrong with sponsorship. However, it's best the influencer or promoter make research about the casino to understand their authenticity and if they are not violating any law before promoting it. This is the best and the right way, in every business.

The problem is that you cannot conduct a full study of the legality of the casino business - they are mostly registered in offshore companies and you can assess the legality of their activities only by the comments of their users (are there any problems or not). But even user reviews cannot be trusted as they can be fake.

Start checking the validity of their gambling license first. At least have a valid license first. If there's none, check the ratings or feedback as you suggested, like in trustpilot. Since a lot of reviews are not authentic, you can check it for yourself. Send small amount of money and test the site. You will know how they treat the players if even small time players are not having any issues with them. An endorser should check the services for himself first and not just blindly promoting them.


Title: Re: Sponsor Money from Casino, Is bad or Good?
Post by: CarnagexD on February 26, 2021, 12:41:49 AM
It's bad for Casino's business but it's fairly okay in other aspects if you're going to ask me. First of all, they are sponsored because the casino is hoping they will gather more people into playing in the casino, which in practice will give them bigger profits in the long run. So it's not that bad really. And in the case of the common player's side, I don't think it's not fair.


Title: Re: Sponsor Money from Casino, Is bad or Good?
Post by: Saisher on February 26, 2021, 12:49:19 AM
I don't see anything wrong on it, in fact Vloggers content creator and even this forum needs sponsors to keep up with he cost, it's not easy running a channel, creating a content, there should be a financial motivation behind it, nothing is free now, because you cannot keep up giving something for free, you need sponsors whether in kind or cash. 


Title: Re: Sponsor Money from Casino, Is bad or Good?
Post by: FinneysTrueVision on February 26, 2021, 01:20:37 AM
When somebody advertises something then there is obviously going to be some form of compensation. Even streamers who are not paid directly to advertise are still looking to make money from referrals and they don't intend on solely using their own income for something that carries a certain level of risk. Whether they feel like disclosing that they're playing with sponsor money or not isn't all that relevant to me because it is safe to assume that almost everyone is doing it out of self interest.


Title: Re: Sponsor Money from Casino, Is bad or Good?
Post by: TravelMug on February 26, 2021, 01:27:57 AM
There are positive and negative effects so I guess it will just negate each other and at the end it will depend on how someone will look at it. As we obviously see in the replies, others says it's bad, but majority think it needs that sponsorship to keep someone's business afloat in this cut-throat competition.


Title: Re: Sponsor Money from Casino, Is bad or Good?
Post by: maydna on February 26, 2021, 02:14:46 AM
There are positive and negative effects so I guess it will just negate each other and at the end it will depend on how someone will look at it. As we obviously see in the replies, others says it's bad, but majority think it needs that sponsorship to keep someone's business afloat in this cut-throat competition.

You are right. As long as both bloggers, Youtuber, Vlogger, or whatever who is active on social media and the gambling company can communicate well, I guess that will not be a problem for them. They can discuss what they should do and don't, so the promoters will not break it because if the promoters do that, that can make a bad image for both sides. Both sides, the promoters and the gambling company, will benefit from that agreement, and if that can achieve success, perhaps the deal will work for the long term.


Title: Re: Sponsor Money from Casino, Is bad or Good?
Post by: ralle14 on February 26, 2021, 02:41:07 AM
It's bad for Casino's business but it's fairly okay in other aspects if you're going to ask me. First of all, they are sponsored because the casino is hoping they will gather more people into playing in the casino, which in practice will give them bigger profits in the long run. So it's not that bad really. And in the case of the common player's side, I don't think it's not fair.
How is it bad for the casino's business? I feel like there's little to no downsides for the casinos to do sponsored deals between streamers and other popular channels since they could easily recover those costs within a month given that they're generating enough profits.

There are positive and negative effects so I guess it will just negate each other and at the end it will depend on how someone will look at it. As we obviously see in the replies, others says it's bad, but majority think it needs that sponsorship to keep someone's business afloat in this cut-throat competition.
When you're a small rising channel it's really hard to turn down any type of sponsorship deal since you don't get those offers very often.


Title: Re: Sponsor Money from Casino, Is bad or Good?
Post by: acener on February 26, 2021, 06:09:24 AM
Well that is how they earn and that is how it works as long as the streamer knows that what they are promoting is legit and not just a scam site then I think there isn't a problem.
Casino would try any advertisement or promotions that they could so it is normal that they would also go to streamers specially those who have a good ratings and many viewers.
So we also shouldn't just rely on the streamers review because we know that some of them got paid to do it we should also do our own research if we ever wants to try the site that they are promoting.


Title: Re: Sponsor Money from Casino, Is bad or Good?
Post by: electronicash on February 26, 2021, 06:23:47 AM
Well that is how they earn and that is how it works as long as the streamer knows that what they are promoting is legit and not just a scam site then I think there isn't a problem.
Casino would try any advertisement or promotions that they could so it is normal that they would also go to streamers specially those who have a good ratings and many viewers.
So we also shouldn't just rely on the streamers review because we know that some of them got paid to do it we should also do our own research if we ever wants to try the site that they are promoting.

in reality, influencers are winning the game. it's all about social media activity now. there is no effect on SEO nor adnetworks anymore, people already know the popup ads on webpages and adwords on youtube videos. but a shirt with the company name being worn by the streamer is different and the influencer talking about the company is just adding attraction to the company.


Title: Re: Sponsor Money from Casino, Is bad or Good?
Post by: TheGreatPython on February 26, 2021, 10:50:28 AM
Once you a promote a project make sure you will get a money because that is your part of your advertise or streamer to get money because there is no free now. But it depends on their agreement on what they do on money they get on the casino while their advertising it. Also a streamer will protect their watchers too because it will cause you blaming to the other people once you promoting not good gambling sites.
Whether a streamer takes money or not I don't really care and appreciate him promoting the site but only if he is actually promoting a functional and legit website. There are some website who take money from scam sportsbook like 1xbit and list them as the best crypto gambling site which is what I just cannot stand as a player.

I don't mind trying a new casino because a streamer or a blog has recommended me but if the site scams me then believe me I will do everything in my power to make sure the person who recommended me will get punished or if he wasn't aware of the scam, at least remove the listing from their site.


Title: Re: Sponsor Money from Casino, Is bad or Good?
Post by: rodskee on February 26, 2021, 11:12:22 AM


Here some sponsor offer I know from some casino:
  • Fully sponsor money
    This one of the most offer some casino give for promoting his casino, they paid some streamer or youtube and fully sponsor the money to play on their casino but with some condition, you cannot withdraw the money
They cannot withdraw the Money as long as they are not wagering this, but once they won then the funds can be withdrawn as those are already their property .
Quote
  • Bonus deposit sponsor
    This sponsor was quite rare, I only know some casino that got this sponsor one of the example YouTubers called Drew. Yeah, he got a bonus sponsor deposit when he deposit around 3K USD the casino adds his balance around 2K off course without any requirement like minimum wagger
I don't think this is rare ,I have read some VIP account story that he is receiving Some good amount of funds to play aside from the rakeback and some bonuses just to stay loyal to that said casino, i just forgot where i have read this but indeed there is.
Quote
Right now, I'm want to hear everyone's opinion about sponsor money.

 
Sponsorship is part of advertising so i don't see any issue on this, casino will spend even tons of money just to promote their company and make if popular around the globe.


Title: Re: Sponsor Money from Casino, Is bad or Good?
Post by: traderethereum on February 26, 2021, 01:53:03 PM
Well that is how they earn and that is how it works as long as the streamer knows that what they are promoting is legit and not just a scam site then I think there isn't a problem.
Casino would try any advertisement or promotions that they could so it is normal that they would also go to streamers specially those who have a good ratings and many viewers.
So we also shouldn't just rely on the streamers review because we know that some of them got paid to do it we should also do our own research if we ever wants to try the site that they are promoting.

in reality, influencers are winning the game. it's all about social media activity now. there is no effect on SEO nor adnetworks anymore, people already know the popup ads on webpages and adwords on youtube videos. but a shirt with the company name being worn by the streamer is different and the influencer talking about the company is just adding attraction to the company.
Nowadays, people become wise when they watch the ads from the influencers and can filter the information from those ads.
A gambler knows how to search for the other review and not just rely on the influencers.
The casino is trying to use the other way and suggest something different to the influencers and maybe they will use the other strategy to make their viewers curious.
But there are new gamblers who do not have much experience and information follow the influencers without searching from the other sources.
The influencers are still getting paid from the casino company because they already help the casino get more members.


Title: Re: Sponsor Money from Casino, Is bad or Good?
Post by: Fredomago on February 26, 2021, 03:25:25 PM
Well that is how they earn and that is how it works as long as the streamer knows that what they are promoting is legit and not just a scam site then I think there isn't a problem.

Balancing information regarding to the business that they'll going to promote, it's more on concerning yourself not to be involve with scamming activites. Very important aside from the money that they'll going to collect as payments.

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Casino would try any advertisement or promotions that they could so it is normal that they would also go to streamers specially those who have a good ratings and many viewers.

Viewers and listeners are the main aim by this gambling casino owners, they'll use every channel that possibly brings them traffics and potential gamblers to participate and start to gamble using their services.

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So we also shouldn't just rely on the streamers review because we know that some of them got paid to do it we should also do our own research if we ever wants to try the site that they are promoting.

Never to relied with someone, even the trust rate of streamers are high it's still important to do your DYOR it will keep you away
from any scammers who are fishing around.


Title: Re: Sponsor Money from Casino, Is bad or Good?
Post by: KTChampions on February 26, 2021, 08:28:28 PM
The problem is that you cannot conduct a full study of the legality of the casino business - they are mostly registered in offshore companies and you can assess the legality of their activities only by the comments of their users (are there any problems or not). But even user reviews cannot be trusted as they can be fake.

Start checking the validity of their gambling license first. At least have a valid license first. If there's none, check the ratings or feedback as you suggested, like in trustpilot. Since a lot of reviews are not authentic, you can check it for yourself. Send small amount of money and test the site. You will know how they treat the players if even small time players are not having any issues with them. An endorser should check the services for himself first and not just blindly promoting them.

Yes, these are reasonable recommendations and personally I do it easier - I only deal with the top of the industry who have been on the market for a long time and are beyond suspicion. But bloggers usually receive proposals from new projects and there the "legend" can be anything, for example: "the license is in the process of registration"  :)


Title: Re: Sponsor Money from Casino, Is bad or Good?
Post by: kawetsriyanto on February 26, 2021, 10:05:56 PM
There may be some notes of this and will depend on some terms and condition:
1. In what kind of sponsorship it will be given. Sometimes, a sponsorship will always need the result of some terms and conditions. they will give the money but not free. there is something that we must do under the agreement.
If it is allowed or not, it will also depend on the country, if gambling and everything activity about this gambling is forbidden, it may be very difficult to accept.


Title: Re: Sponsor Money from Casino, Is bad or Good?
Post by: jostorres on February 27, 2021, 06:01:25 AM
There are positive and negative effects so I guess it will just negate each other and at the end it will depend on how someone will look at it. As we obviously see in the replies, others says it's bad, but majority think it needs that sponsorship to keep someone's business afloat in this cut-throat competition.
I do not see any problem with someone selling a product and similarly I do not see any problem someone selling a website and its features to me barring that it is not false and misleading.

I was making a transaction at ethereum network recently, which itself a pain now days but then I saw an ad of 1xbit.com as I was checking my transaction status and it burnt my blood really bad because this is something I don't like, scam gambling sites being promoted on reputed and known sites like etherscan.

Here is how it looked, I took a screenshot that time itself and I am sure a lot of guys will get scammed because of this: https://i.imgur.com/v77IOWS.png


Title: Re: Sponsor Money from Casino, Is bad or Good?
Post by: electronicash on February 27, 2021, 07:28:34 AM
There are positive and negative effects so I guess it will just negate each other and at the end it will depend on how someone will look at it. As we obviously see in the replies, others says it's bad, but majority think it needs that sponsorship to keep someone's business afloat in this cut-throat competition.
I do not see any problem with someone selling a product and similarly I do not see any problem someone selling a website and its features to me barring that it is not false and misleading.

I was making a transaction at ethereum network recently, which itself a pain now days but then I saw an ad of 1xbit.com as I was checking my transaction status and it burnt my blood really bad because this is something I don't like, scam gambling sites being promoted on reputed and known sites like etherscan.

Here is how it looked, I took a screenshot that time itself and I am sure a lot of guys will get scammed because of this: https://i.imgur.com/v77IOWS.png

under it is also BitStarz. there is nothing in the ad that says "Advertised sites are not endorsed by... which going to be a problem because a newbie could actually get lost over there and then send some ETH.

here in bitcointalk, theymos added a line Advertised sites are not endorsed by the Bitcoin Forum. They may be unsafe, untrustworthy, or illegal in your jurisdiction. Advertise here. to make sure the ads are just ads paying for exposure to the community and not really supported by the community.



Title: Re: Sponsor Money from Casino, Is bad or Good?
Post by: Mauser on February 27, 2021, 09:52:06 AM
There may be some notes of this and will depend on some terms and condition:
1. In what kind of sponsorship it will be given. Sometimes, a sponsorship will always need the result of some terms and conditions. they will give the money but not free. there is something that we must do under the agreement.
If it is allowed or not, it will also depend on the country, if gambling and everything activity about this gambling is forbidden, it may be very difficult to accept.

I agree, as long as its legal in our country than we should be able to accept it. There is nothing wrong with sponsorships. All types of businesses are doing it, so why not the gambling industry? Especially in sports are sponsorships very important. Without the outside money coming in there wouldn't be so much money for the players and coaches. In my opinion it's a good thing to advertisements in the form of sponsorships.


Title: Re: Sponsor Money from Casino, Is bad or Good?
Post by: maydna on February 27, 2021, 12:33:10 PM
There may be some notes of this and will depend on some terms and condition:
1. In what kind of sponsorship it will be given. Sometimes, a sponsorship will always need the result of some terms and conditions. they will give the money but not free. there is something that we must do under the agreement.
If it is allowed or not, it will also depend on the country, if gambling and everything activity about this gambling is forbidden, it may be very difficult to accept.

I agree, as long as its legal in our country than we should be able to accept it. There is nothing wrong with sponsorships. All types of businesses are doing it, so why not the gambling industry? Especially in sports are sponsorships very important. Without the outside money coming in there wouldn't be so much money for the players and coaches. In my opinion it's a good thing to advertisements in the form of sponsorships.

Before you accept the sponsorships, you must search for information as much as you can about the company, so you will be sure that the sponsorships can give benefits to you. Sometimes, the ads can attract more visitor for both of you and the company, so that can be a win-win solution for you, especially people who want to search for a good review about the company. You can get paid by the company, and the company can make another income from the people you already invited.


Title: Re: Sponsor Money from Casino, Is bad or Good?
Post by: jrrsparkles on February 27, 2021, 12:38:08 PM
There are positive and negative effects so I guess it will just negate each other and at the end it will depend on how someone will look at it. As we obviously see in the replies, others says it's bad, but majority think it needs that sponsorship to keep someone's business afloat in this cut-throat competition.
I do not see any problem with someone selling a product and similarly I do not see any problem someone selling a website and its features to me barring that it is not false and misleading.

I was making a transaction at ethereum network recently, which itself a pain now days but then I saw an ad of 1xbit.com as I was checking my transaction status and it burnt my blood really bad because this is something I don't like, scam gambling sites being promoted on reputed and known sites like etherscan.

Here is how it looked, I took a screenshot that time itself and I am sure a lot of guys will get scammed because of this: https://i.imgur.com/v77IOWS.png

under it is also BitStarz. there is nothing in the ad that says "Advertised sites are not endorsed by... which going to be a problem because a newbie could actually get lost over there and then send some ETH.

here in bitcointalk, theymos added a line Advertised sites are not endorsed by the Bitcoin Forum. They may be unsafe, untrustworthy, or illegal in your jurisdiction. Advertise here. to make sure the ads are just ads paying for exposure to the community and not really supported by the community.


Literally any cryptocurrency related service can take part in the auction and take forum ad slots with the money but chances of complete scam site there is less even though it is not zero so user also need to do enough research before trusting them with their money.


Title: Re: Sponsor Money from Casino, Is bad or Good?
Post by: Twentyonepaylots on February 27, 2021, 06:38:16 PM
I don't think the negatives of a sponsor using his sponsor money to bet on the gambling site he is advertising/promoting outweighs the positives, if there's even any. We fail to consider that if anything, we're not really that much affected since even them got the same odds than us, except of course if they have rigged it to make it seem like it's easy to win.


Title: Re: Sponsor Money from Casino, Is bad or Good?
Post by: TimeTeller on February 27, 2021, 11:29:43 PM
There may be some notes of this and will depend on some terms and condition:
1. In what kind of sponsorship it will be given. Sometimes, a sponsorship will always need the result of some terms and conditions. they will give the money but not free. there is something that we must do under the agreement.
If it is allowed or not, it will also depend on the country, if gambling and everything activity about this gambling is forbidden, it may be very difficult to accept.

I agree, as long as its legal in our country than we should be able to accept it. There is nothing wrong with sponsorships. All types of businesses are doing it, so why not the gambling industry? Especially in sports are sponsorships very important. Without the outside money coming in there wouldn't be so much money for the players and coaches. In my opinion it's a good thing to advertisements in the form of sponsorships.

Before you accept the sponsorships, you must search for information as much as you can about the company, so you will be sure that the sponsorships can give benefits to you. Sometimes, the ads can attract more visitor for both of you and the company, so that can be a win-win solution for you, especially people who want to search for a good review about the company. You can get paid by the company, and the company can make another income from the people you already invited.

Those are what you call responsible promoters/endorsers.
We have to admit, most are just accepting sponsorships just for the sake of the money.
But this will affect your reputation later on, if found out the site is practicing some fraudulent activities.
Don't see anything wrong if you are promoting a casino, as long as it is legit and no existing allegations.
Casinos are actually giving a lot of jobs to people, aside from the fact that they are one of the biggest taxpayers in the community.


Title: Re: Sponsor Money from Casino, Is bad or Good?
Post by: Fatunad on February 27, 2021, 11:47:41 PM
I don't think the negatives of a sponsor using his sponsor money to bet on the gambling site he is advertising/promoting outweighs the positives, if there's even any. We fail to consider that if anything, we're not really that much affected since even them got the same odds than us, except of course if they have rigged it to make it seem like it's easy to win.
That what matter most which is on to make it at least fair for everybody neither those money is sponsored or personal because outcome or results would really be just the same.
I dont see for people to make this as an issue or a problem because everyone could really make their own decision and having impression if its good to use up sponsored money or
not but generally speaking i dont see a mistake on this one and as said that odds or chances of winning is just the same when we are dealing with a fair site.
Thing here is that on how they do play on and treating those viewers and able to enjoy on what he's trying to promote.


Title: Re: Sponsor Money from Casino, Is bad or Good?
Post by: Silberman on February 28, 2021, 12:08:45 AM
Usually people promoting casinos through their referral links will also highlight only the good side of the casino and they will post a positive video showing strategies that will lead to winning results. This way, the streamer incentives the viewer to reproduce the same strategy on the site, as the exhibited strategy indicates it works fine on that specific site.
For most people this approach should looks ridiculous, but there is still a public which fall for this and generate some income through the referral link for the streamer.
This is extremely common and not only with casinos but with almost anything, one of the most obvious examples of this is when people try to get people to trade in an exchange and they supposedly reveal a strategy that you can use to make money in the markets and the they show their results, now maybe they are not lying directly because they actually won that trade but they are lying by omission because they do not say that what they are showing is the result of a single trade and there is no guarantee that every single trade is going to give profits like the example they are showing.


Title: Re: Sponsor Money from Casino, Is bad or Good?
Post by: maydna on February 28, 2021, 03:08:43 AM
There may be some notes of this and will depend on some terms and condition:
1. In what kind of sponsorship it will be given. Sometimes, a sponsorship will always need the result of some terms and conditions. they will give the money but not free. there is something that we must do under the agreement.
If it is allowed or not, it will also depend on the country, if gambling and everything activity about this gambling is forbidden, it may be very difficult to accept.

I agree, as long as its legal in our country than we should be able to accept it. There is nothing wrong with sponsorships. All types of businesses are doing it, so why not the gambling industry? Especially in sports are sponsorships very important. Without the outside money coming in there wouldn't be so much money for the players and coaches. In my opinion it's a good thing to advertisements in the form of sponsorships.

Before you accept the sponsorships, you must search for information as much as you can about the company, so you will be sure that the sponsorships can give benefits to you. Sometimes, the ads can attract more visitor for both of you and the company, so that can be a win-win solution for you, especially people who want to search for a good review about the company. You can get paid by the company, and the company can make another income from the people you already invited.

Those are what you call responsible promoters/endorsers.
We have to admit, most are just accepting sponsorships just for the sake of the money.
But this will affect your reputation later on, if found out the site is practicing some fraudulent activities.
Don't see anything wrong if you are promoting a casino, as long as it is legit and no existing allegations.
Casinos are actually giving a lot of jobs to people, aside from the fact that they are one of the biggest taxpayers in the community.

If promoters/endorsers accept the sponsorships because of the money without searching for more information, it doesn't take too long for both endorsers and the casino to stop the sponsorships because one of the sides will be disappointed, even if the money amount is big.

Perhaps, as an endorser, they can teach the viewers about gambling, but they must give a warning to their follower that playing gambling is not just visit on the casino and play the gambling games, but they must have control for many things. They need to always remind that thing to all of the people who watch, while the endorser must be a good example that can hold themselves in playing gambling games.


Title: Re: Sponsor Money from Casino, Is bad or Good?
Post by: tygeade on February 28, 2021, 06:54:16 AM
The problem is that you cannot conduct a full study of the legality of the casino business - they are mostly registered in offshore companies and you can assess the legality of their activities only by the comments of their users (are there any problems or not). But even user reviews cannot be trusted as they can be fake.
Yes, if you make an account personally they can just let you withdraw, play and deposit normally but do selective scams. Only way to avoid this is by promoting well known and already reputed casinos so that you don't have to worry about the trustworthiness.

I don't see anything wrong on it, in fact Vloggers content creator and even this forum needs sponsors to keep up with he cost, it's not easy running a channel, creating a content, there should be a financial motivation behind it, nothing is free now, because you cannot keep up giving something for free, you need sponsors whether in kind or cash. 
It is a very sensitive topic actually because one mistake from the streamer might mean that he loses his subscribers and even his followers on all social media handle within days of promoting a scam gambling site even if by chance and not by choice.

When you promote something directly and at times even indirectly, you have to take the responsibility and make sure that the people influenced by your content don't get to face any problems. Its similar to why some big actors or actress will never promote a new and untested product.


Title: Re: Sponsor Money from Casino, Is bad or Good?
Post by: blockman on February 28, 2021, 09:19:19 AM
We fail to consider that if anything, we're not really that much affected since even them got the same odds than us, except of course if they have rigged it to make it seem like it's easy to win.
That's very dishonest of the guy if they'll make rig the game and as well as the casino that has sponsored him. I don't see the point that they'll rig it just for the attention but surely this could really be happening or even happened even before. And I agree that we don't care anymore if the guy that was sponsored will use it on that casino or just take the money or whatever he'll do because it was him that has a deal with the casino and not us.


Title: Re: Sponsor Money from Casino, Is bad or Good?
Post by: tabas on February 28, 2021, 11:20:22 AM
If I have a good channel with viewers I will accept sponsor money as long as the sponsor has a good reputation and no bad feedback, this has been the industry practice for a long time, commercialism is always been part of content creation, you see it on TV, in the newspaper and now in the internet and those with good channel.
Yes, it is very popular these days. Brands and companies are going for sponsorships and it is actually a saver for them.
This is way cheaper than traditional commercials in tvs and newspapers.


Title: Re: Sponsor Money from Casino, Is bad or Good?
Post by: Becky666 on February 28, 2021, 01:50:28 PM
If I have a good channel with viewers I will accept sponsor money as long as the sponsor has a good reputation and no bad feedback, this has been the industry practice for a long time, commercialism is always been part of content creation, you see it on TV, in the newspaper and now in the internet and those with good channel.
Some streamers, mostly those You-tubers doesn't care much about the legitimacy of the casino before accepting the offer of sponsor money, this has been my worries that accepting these fake sponsor money will be endangering the likes of the players. What we saw today on Newspapers and on the Internets are fake contents promoting shit-projects through the name of celebrities which can enter into deal without considering the interests of their followers. 'Commercialism ' is good when everything about it is good and legit.


Title: Re: Sponsor Money from Casino, Is bad or Good?
Post by: ethereumhunter on February 28, 2021, 02:35:44 PM
We fail to consider that if anything, we're not really that much affected since even them got the same odds than us, except of course if they have rigged it to make it seem like it's easy to win.
That's very dishonest of the guy if they'll make rig the game and as well as the casino that has sponsored him. I don't see the point that they'll rig it just for the attention but surely this could really be happening or even happened even before. And I agree that we don't care anymore if the guy that was sponsored will use it on that casino or just take the money or whatever he'll do because it was him that has a deal with the casino and not us.

Maybe that person who promotes the casino will get another bonus from the casino to play on the casino so that the promoters can have fun with the additional money. It is up to the promoters to spend all of the money to gamble or just use small money to gamble. But if the promoters want to give their followers a lesson, they will always remind them not to use too big money to gamble. The promoters need to be neutral between the casino and their followers, so the promoters can still give a review for the casino.


Title: Re: Sponsor Money from Casino, Is bad or Good?
Post by: panjul07 on February 28, 2021, 03:51:51 PM
I do not really care about streamers who promote casinos with sponsor money as it is just a marketing strategy from the casino and the streamers do it for money obviously.
I have to say that I like to watch such gambling streaming but it wont affect my gambling activity.
I like to watch people win big although what I watch is not using real money.
All in all, we as gambler should not be attracted to play on the casino just because it is promoted by streamers but we have our own responsibility to do our own research about the casino.


Title: Re: Sponsor Money from Casino, Is bad or Good?
Post by: KTChampions on February 28, 2021, 05:23:42 PM
The problem is that you cannot conduct a full study of the legality of the casino business - they are mostly registered in offshore companies and you can assess the legality of their activities only by the comments of their users (are there any problems or not). But even user reviews cannot be trusted as they can be fake.
Yes, if you make an account personally they can just let you withdraw, play and deposit normally but do selective scams. Only way to avoid this is by promoting well known and already reputed casinos so that you don't have to worry about the trustworthiness.

By the way, this topic of selective scams is becoming very relevant (not only for casinos but also for exchanges) and these scams are carried out under the guise of a struggle for legality. I think many have come across or at least heard about this: a casino or an exchange easily allows you to make a deposit, but when you want to make a withdrawal of funds, requirements (often unrealizable) begin to be made about providing a source of earnings, passing the KYC and so on.


Title: Re: Sponsor Money from Casino, Is bad or Good?
Post by: fiulpro on February 28, 2021, 05:34:08 PM
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Fully sponsor money
This one of the most offer some casino give for promoting his casino, they paid some streamer or youtube and fully sponsor the money to play on their casino but with some condition, you cannot withdraw the money
Bonus deposit sponsor
This sponsor was quite rare, I only know some casino that got this sponsor one of the example YouTubers called Drew. Yeah, he got a bonus sponsor deposit when he deposit around 3K USD the casino adds his balance around 2K off course without any requirement like minimum wagger

The first case is a very weird concept if you cannot use this money then what do you intend to do with it ? This would be extremely silly. I do not think that the first one has any value anywhere. It would be more like you got a paid game for free.

When we are talking about the second option it's much more convenient though the balance is much less. You can claim your rewards but it won't be of much value now.

I personally believe that we can add one more section here :
Casinos asking players to make videos on their particular casino and at the same time paying the deserving candidates this one works way better at the same time when casinos organize some competitions that is indeed much better for the people around who are struggling . Therefore I do believe we can add a little more in this.


Title: Re: Sponsor Money from Casino, Is bad or Good?
Post by: blockman on February 28, 2021, 08:11:54 PM
We fail to consider that if anything, we're not really that much affected since even them got the same odds than us, except of course if they have rigged it to make it seem like it's easy to win.
That's very dishonest of the guy if they'll make rig the game and as well as the casino that has sponsored him. I don't see the point that they'll rig it just for the attention but surely this could really be happening or even happened even before. And I agree that we don't care anymore if the guy that was sponsored will use it on that casino or just take the money or whatever he'll do because it was him that has a deal with the casino and not us.

Maybe that person who promotes the casino will get another bonus from the casino to play on the casino so that the promoters can have fun with the additional money. It is up to the promoters to spend all of the money to gamble or just use small money to gamble. But if the promoters want to give their followers a lesson, they will always remind them not to use too big money to gamble. The promoters need to be neutral between the casino and their followers, so the promoters can still give a review for the casino.
Likely and maybe. As far as our concern, it doesn't really matter anymore what they'll do with the bonus or whatever that shall be given to them.
It's only about them and how huge the market is already that they get to hire or have a deal with people that have a huge following in the internet or social media platforms.


Title: Re: Sponsor Money from Casino, Is bad or Good?
Post by: blockman on March 01, 2021, 10:24:28 PM
If we talk about the market, it will still be huge and it can attract many people to come to the gambling sites as they can online from anywhere they want. If the casino sees that hiring someone who has a huge follower in social media can give them a chance to reach more people to become their member, they will still do that and search for the promoters that can help them. Well, I am sure the casino gets benefits from that as the promoters can get the additional money from the casino.
They won't hire someone who does have a low following. It's a protocol to most of these advertisers like in this niche that they should hire someone who has a large following.
It's a throw and waste of money if they will sponsor someone who only has a less following. They don't want to do that.


Title: Re: Sponsor Money from Casino, Is bad or Good?
Post by: Silberman on March 03, 2021, 04:02:05 AM
If I have a good channel with viewers I will accept sponsor money as long as the sponsor has a good reputation and no bad feedback, this has been the industry practice for a long time, commercialism is always been part of content creation, you see it on TV, in the newspaper and now in the internet and those with good channel.
Some streamers, mostly those You-tubers doesn't care much about the legitimacy of the casino before accepting the offer of sponsor money, this has been my worries that accepting these fake sponsor money will be endangering the likes of the players. What we saw today on Newspapers and on the Internets are fake contents promoting shit-projects through the name of celebrities which can enter into deal without considering the interests of their followers. 'Commercialism ' is good when everything about it is good and legit.
And this is what at the end makes those sponsored reviews useless, we know that even if there are reviews out there that are legitimate there are also many people which produce content and reviews without taking into account the legitimacy of the casino itself, which means that at the end you are forced to do your due diligence anyway, and this brings the question why bother watching a sponsored review when you still have to make sure that the casino is legitimate and it is not going to scam you?


Title: Re: Sponsor Money from Casino, Is bad or Good?
Post by: electronicash on March 03, 2021, 05:27:15 AM
If I have a good channel with viewers I will accept sponsor money as long as the sponsor has a good reputation and no bad feedback, this has been the industry practice for a long time, commercialism is always been part of content creation, you see it on TV, in the newspaper and now in the internet and those with good channel.
Some streamers, mostly those You-tubers doesn't care much about the legitimacy of the casino before accepting the offer of sponsor money, this has been my worries that accepting these fake sponsor money will be endangering the likes of the players. What we saw today on Newspapers and on the Internets are fake contents promoting shit-projects through the name of celebrities which can enter into deal without considering the interests of their followers. 'Commercialism ' is good when everything about it is good and legit.
And this is what at the end makes those sponsored reviews useless, we know that even if there are reviews out there that are legitimate there are also many people which produce content and reviews without taking into account the legitimacy of the casino itself, which means that at the end you are forced to do your due diligence anyway, and this brings the question why bother watching a sponsored review when you still have to make sure that the casino is legitimate and it is not going to scam you?

that's still the question there as it won't affect the streamers reputation if the casino is revealed as a scam after all he was sponsored and just did what was told. this is just like what Cointelegraph is doing, publishing sponsored articles which they yet have no idea whether there is truth to it or not. but they are actually giving cautions when they say it's a sponsored article.







Title: Re: Sponsor Money from Casino, Is bad or Good?
Post by: johhnyUA on March 04, 2021, 10:53:37 PM
Right now, I'm want to hear everyone's opinion about sponsor money.

What do you things for some streamer who playing using sponsor money? did you feel that was not good or you have another opinion. IMO, I don't mind with some sponsor money as long the streamer admitted on the video he using sponsor money and not just say that was his own money when the reality the money came from sponsor money or even the worst scenario playing using demo money.

And of course, the casino that sponsors the money came from a reputable casino. I believe in bicointalk some casino even reputable casino was also offering this sponsor for some YouTuber or streamer.

I kinda feel got some entertainment from this even they playing with some sponsor money, as long the money sponsor not really a ridiculous amount.

I'm not sure about how it's going with reputable casino, but shady casinos often propose such "promotion". Needless to say that this is "fake" money, and streamer not using real money to bet. This is like 80 % of all "sponsorship" in gambling.

But in term of reputable casinos and gambling platforms (like pokerstars) i don't see any problem with sponsorship. I'm looking how my streamer playing and it's not important for me that he playing for his own money or casino paying him. 


Title: Re: Sponsor Money from Casino, Is bad or Good?
Post by: Silberman on March 06, 2021, 06:23:19 AM
And this is what at the end makes those sponsored reviews useless, we know that even if there are reviews out there that are legitimate there are also many people which produce content and reviews without taking into account the legitimacy of the casino itself, which means that at the end you are forced to do your due diligence anyway, and this brings the question why bother watching a sponsored review when you still have to make sure that the casino is legitimate and it is not going to scam you?

that's still the question there as it won't affect the streamers reputation if the casino is revealed as a scam after all he was sponsored and just did what was told. this is just like what Cointelegraph is doing, publishing sponsored articles which they yet have no idea whether there is truth to it or not. but they are actually giving cautions when they say it's a sponsored article.
It depends, if a person ends up begin scammed because of the sponsored content that he watched I can bet that person is not going to be that happy and even if you think the person creating the content cannot be accused of anything as he did not knew what was going on this is still going to affect his reputation as most likely people will see his new reviews with reservations, which is why I have always thought that reviews whether they are sponsored or not need to be honest in order to not deceive unintentionally those that could try a new casino after watching a review.


Title: Re: Sponsor Money from Casino, Is bad or Good?
Post by: aioc on March 06, 2021, 08:39:02 AM
Sponsor money is good if it's coming from a reputable gambling site, but if it's coming from a dubious gambling site like 1XBIT who is very notorious for scamming gamblers, then it's not worth it, all content creator depends on sponsorship and bonus to be able to sustain their channel or network, I have watched a lot of videos with sponsors and it adds value to both creator and viewers. 


Title: Re: Sponsor Money from Casino, Is bad or Good?
Post by: iTradeChips on March 06, 2021, 12:49:27 PM
Based on my observation in some of these videos, mostly these people are using Youtube as their platform of choice, maybe less for some of the other platforms. And maybe most of them does not really take into consideration if these casinos are legit or not before accepting these sponsorships. I mean I have not seen any illegal yet but scams and failed casino there few from my observation. That should not affect the reputation of these youtubers because they are simply advertising or were "employed" as video marketers.


Title: Re: Sponsor Money from Casino, Is bad or Good?
Post by: dunfida on March 06, 2021, 11:16:51 PM
Based on my observation in some of these videos, mostly these people are using Youtube as their platform of choice, maybe less for some of the other platforms. And maybe most of them does not really take into consideration if these casinos are legit or not before accepting these sponsorships. I mean I have not seen any illegal yet but scams and failed casino there few from my observation. That should not affect the reputation of these youtubers because they are simply advertising or were "employed" as video marketers.
But on having that ethical side of things, arent you worried into those players who had made deposits just because you had advertised a scammy casino or it turns out to be having an exit scam or not really fair at all?
If you are a type of person or advertiser who do just simply mind of the money without minding others situation on losing theirs then i cant blame you but there are people who do really make out research first before
accepting any advertisement neither those companies are legit or not even though it might not able to affect your reputation but your conscience will really be on ease.
Well, this is just my own view or feeling.


Title: Re: Sponsor Money from Casino, Is bad or Good?
Post by: KTChampions on March 06, 2021, 11:52:01 PM
Based on my observation in some of these videos, mostly these people are using Youtube as their platform of choice, maybe less for some of the other platforms. And maybe most of them does not really take into consideration if these casinos are legit or not before accepting these sponsorships. I mean I have not seen any illegal yet but scams and failed casino there few from my observation. That should not affect the reputation of these youtubers because they are simply advertising or were "employed" as video marketers.

You probably mean some small channels and channels with entertainment content and a short long life. There are strict advertising rules on YouTube and as far as I know, a few complaints are enough and the channel closes very quickly. Therefore, advertisers are constantly opening new ones with simple but popular content such as coubs.


Title: Re: Sponsor Money from Casino, Is bad or Good?
Post by: AmoreJaz on March 06, 2021, 11:58:25 PM
Based on my observation in some of these videos, mostly these people are using Youtube as their platform of choice, maybe less for some of the other platforms. And maybe most of them does not really take into consideration if these casinos are legit or not before accepting these sponsorships. I mean I have not seen any illegal yet but scams and failed casino there few from my observation. That should not affect the reputation of these youtubers because they are simply advertising or were "employed" as video marketers.

You probably mean some small channels and channels with entertainment content and a short long life. There are strict advertising rules on YouTube and as far as I know, a few complaints are enough and the channel closes very quickly. Therefore, advertisers are constantly opening new ones with simple but popular content such as coubs.

yes, i dont think an established YT channel will take the risk of endorsing a fraudulent casino. because one mistake, and they know, they will lose that channel as well as followers. media is sometimes a powerful tool to influence people but they also need to be responsible about it. and they know that.
with small channel and low number of followers, they can always risk that. because they can create another one.


Title: Re: Sponsor Money from Casino, Is bad or Good?
Post by: tabas on March 07, 2021, 09:38:23 AM
If I am a streamer and an influencer I will accept sponsor money that I can use to try out their casino, they want testimonial on how good their casino the features of their casino and I need content to show to my subscribers, it's actually a win-win situation for both of us not only for us but for my subscribers as well.
Yes.
Most of them just want to be reviewed by the influencer with a lot of followers so, in return, they give incentives maybe in cash, and at the same time the comfort to try their casino with credits.
But as an influencer, you should also give caution to your followers that it should only be done and checked if they're at the legal age.


Title: Re: Sponsor Money from Casino, Is bad or Good?
Post by: Becky666 on March 07, 2021, 03:55:26 PM
Every single business, service, will always have some marketing strategy to promote their service. In casinos, one of the marketing is to paid someone like Streamer or Youtuber to play on his casino. One of the examples offers from casinos they give for the promotion giving some sponsor money to play for every Youtuber or Streamer. If you watching a gambling video mostly on CRYPTO & CS-GO casino, it's not quite familiar anymore when they got sponsor money from the casino.
If I am a streamer and an influencer I will accept sponsor money that I can use to try out their casino, they want testimonial on how good their casino the features of their casino and I need content to show to my subscribers, it's actually a win-win situation for both of us not only for us but for my subscribers as well.
That sounds good, but others won't do same as you have said mate, they will use the sponsored money and never put the interest of his/her subscribers into consideration. I have some good streamers around myself and am always very afraid whenever i see their reviews on a casinos, i don't know what it will cause to be sincere to yourself to help others avoid be SCAM.


Title: Re: Sponsor Money from Casino, Is bad or Good?
Post by: 2double0 on March 07, 2021, 06:23:22 PM
That sounds good, but others won't do same as you have said mate, they will use the sponsored money and never put the interest of his/her subscribers into consideration. I have some good streamers around myself and am always very afraid whenever i see their reviews on a casinos, i don't know what it will cause to be sincere to yourself to help others avoid be SCAM.

Most streamers will take sponsors' money simply out of greed or need, and well who does not want money? They will not even check about how good or genuine that casino or gambling website is, but will take anything to advertise them and make quick bucks. I bet you must have seen many Forex options advertisements on Youtube? What do you think? Are all those options brokers trustworthy? Try one of them and you will regret when they will block your reason for no reason if you win too often, but they will not let you win there as they manipulate the results with 'wicks' the last moment when you are about to win your bet.


Title: Re: Sponsor Money from Casino, Is bad or Good?
Post by: KTChampions on March 07, 2021, 09:35:36 PM
You probably mean some small channels and channels with entertainment content and a short long life. There are strict advertising rules on YouTube and as far as I know, a few complaints are enough and the channel closes very quickly. Therefore, advertisers are constantly opening new ones with simple but popular content such as coubs.

yes, i dont think an established YT channel will take the risk of endorsing a fraudulent casino. because one mistake, and they know, they will lose that channel as well as followers. media is sometimes a powerful tool to influence people but they also need to be responsible about it. and they know that.
with small channel and low number of followers, they can always risk that. because they can create another one.

In the Russian-speaking segment of YouTube, I have been observing this business for a long time. People create channels, buy ads (most likely) to promote them quickly and use embedded videos to advertise murky projects like casinos or some kind of trust investment. After the channel is banned, it is created anew with a slight name change. And it repeats itself endlessly. Apparently this is a lucrative business and murky projects are willing to pay for such advertising.


Title: Re: Sponsor Money from Casino, Is bad or Good?
Post by: BitcoinHunt3r on March 07, 2021, 10:53:45 PM
Every single business, service, will always have some marketing strategy to promote their service. In casinos, one of the marketing is to paid someone like Streamer or Youtuber to play on his casino. One of the examples offers from casinos they give for the promotion giving some sponsor money to play for every Youtuber or Streamer. If you watching a gambling video mostly on CRYPTO & CS-GO casino, it's not quite familiar anymore when they got sponsor money from the casino.

Here some sponsor offer I know from some casino:
  • Fully sponsor money
    This one of the most offer some casino give for promoting his casino, they paid some streamer or youtube and fully sponsor the money to play on their casino but with some condition, you cannot withdraw the money
  • Bonus deposit sponsor
    This sponsor was quite rare, I only know some casino that got this sponsor one of the example YouTubers called Drew. Yeah, he got a bonus sponsor deposit when he deposit around 3K USD the casino adds his balance around 2K off course without any requirement like minimum wagger

Right now, I'm want to hear everyone's opinion about sponsor money.

What do you things for some streamer who playing using sponsor money? did you feel that was not good or you have another opinion. IMO, I don't mind with some sponsor money as long the streamer admitted on the video he using sponsor money and not just say that was his own money when the reality the money came from sponsor money or even the worst scenario playing using demo money.

And of course, the casino that sponsors the money came from a reputable casino. I believe in bicointalk some casino even reputable casino was also offering this sponsor for some YouTuber or streamer.

I kinda feel got some entertainment from this even they playing with some sponsor money, as long the money sponsor not really a ridiculous amount.

This is one of the marketing strategy now in casino online gambling platform to attract the gamblers to play on their website.
In short, it maybe a trap or in favor for the real experts gambler. So, for me it doesn't matter and I don't care because I am not a gamblers
and its not my habit to play with it all the time. Then, if you feel entertained that's good anyway in your part.

Yes, I also saw some YouTubers sponsored but usually on videos they always remind you of the risk of gambling and be at least 18+
There are positives and negatives depending on how the gambler controls himself when gambling, I personally get both


Title: Re: Sponsor Money from Casino, Is bad or Good?
Post by: Lanatsa on March 07, 2021, 11:59:32 PM
Its completely normal to promote their casino's for me. Just like ads that you see in television or in many different youtube channel. This type of marketing is not new, i see a bunch gaming channels that promote a new game even in tiktok there are many affiliate marketing from different companies promoted by influencer's.
You are right and there are lots of them and you can see it everywhere which it turns out to be a casual or standard thing here on this market.

There are no issues on why wouldn't those advertisers will be accepting companies offers on using up some sponsor money?

They do all things just for the sake of earning money and it doesn't matter on where it would came from as long it would be legal and wont really be
violating other means.


Title: Re: Sponsor Money from Casino, Is bad or Good?
Post by: Silberman on March 10, 2021, 01:26:46 AM
Based on my observation in some of these videos, mostly these people are using Youtube as their platform of choice, maybe less for some of the other platforms. And maybe most of them does not really take into consideration if these casinos are legit or not before accepting these sponsorships. I mean I have not seen any illegal yet but scams and failed casino there few from my observation. That should not affect the reputation of these youtubers because they are simply advertising or were "employed" as video marketers.
But on having that ethical side of things, arent you worried into those players who had made deposits just because you had advertised a scammy casino or it turns out to be having an exit scam or not really fair at all?
If you are a type of person or advertiser who do just simply mind of the money without minding others situation on losing theirs then i cant blame you but there are people who do really make out research first before
accepting any advertisement neither those companies are legit or not even though it might not able to affect your reputation but your conscience will really be on ease.
Well, this is just my own view or feeling.
It is obvious that the owner of a channel like that is not going to prosper for long, the whole point of giving a review whether is sponsored or not is to give insight about the state of the service or product you are reviewing, if the review fails to address the reputation of the casino and how they are scamming their customers then it does not matter if the rest of the review was stellar, people will begin to avoid the channel and any profit the owner of that channel was expecting will evaporate overnight.


Title: Re: Sponsor Money from Casino, Is bad or Good?
Post by: maydna on March 10, 2021, 02:14:15 AM
Sponsor money is good if it's coming from a reputable gambling site, but if it's coming from a dubious gambling site like 1XBIT who is very notorious for scamming gamblers, then it's not worth it, all content creator depends on sponsorship and bonus to be able to sustain their channel or network, I have watched a lot of videos with sponsors and it adds value to both creator and viewers. 
Certainly, to become a sponsor is not just any site that can apply for sponsorship cooperation, as you might call a problematic site and also the cost for sponsorship is not cheap. It turns out that it has been arranged and allowed, for example, a soccer club using sponsorship from a gambling site. However, the question is that if the site becomes a sponsor, it is not impossible that there are club matches that are set for victory or defeat.

That can depend on the match fixing before the game starts because perhaps, that thing is to happen too. Perhaps, the shirt sponsorship does not have to add something related to gambling. Still, they can add a logo or small image to the shirts to avoid misunderstanding between the government, club owner, and people because the government doesn't want to see the sports sponsorships. The club seems to invite people to play gambling. The promoters need to select sports sponsorships carefully to avoid the government's prohibitions related to gambling.


Title: Re: Sponsor Money from Casino, Is bad or Good?
Post by: Kong Hey Pakboy on March 10, 2021, 08:53:48 AM
Its completely normal to promote their casino's for me. Just like ads that you see in television or in many different youtube channel. This type of marketing is not new, i see a bunch gaming channels that promote a new game even in tiktok there are many affiliate marketing from different companies promoted by influencer's.
I think so too, they are a business after all and every good businesses needs to have advertisements one way or another. In terms of is it good or bad, I think that it is a matter of perspective, for example, you are a devout Christian and you outspokenly denounce gambling which means that any form of sponsorship or such is going to be bad for you but if you are on the other side of the spectrum where you are an influencer who does anything for a meager sponsorship then casino sponsorship is a good thing.


Title: Re: Sponsor Money from Casino, Is bad or Good?
Post by: Mauser on March 10, 2021, 09:20:39 AM
Its completely normal to promote their casino's for me. Just like ads that you see in television or in many different youtube channel. This type of marketing is not new, i see a bunch gaming channels that promote a new game even in tiktok there are many affiliate marketing from different companies promoted by influencer's.
I think so too, they are a business after all and every good businesses needs to have advertisements one way or another. In terms of is it good or bad, I think that it is a matter of perspective, for example, you are a devout Christian and you outspokenly denounce gambling which means that any form of sponsorship or such is going to be bad for you but if you are on the other side of the spectrum where you are an influencer who does anything for a meager sponsorship then casino sponsorship is a good thing.

I fully agree, and as long as tabacco companies and alcohol producers are allowed to make advertising, why not casinos? Both cigarettes and alcohol are bad for your body while gambling has no direct effect on your body. There might be some unlucky few who take it too far and lose a lot of money. But the sand is happening with lotteries. Usually the government's owns these so they don't mind too much. Casino advertisings and promotions should definitely be legalised.


Title: Re: Sponsor Money from Casino, Is bad or Good?
Post by: paxmao on March 10, 2021, 10:12:47 AM
As Bob Dylan wrote, "You Have to Serve Somebody"

Quote
You may be an ambassador to England or France
You may like to gamble, you might like to dance
You may be the heavyweight champion of the world
You may be a socialite with a long string of pearls
But you're gonna have to serve somebody, yes
Indeed you're gonna have to serve somebody
Well, it may be the devil or it may be the Lord
But you're gonna have to serve somebody
"

And that is my thinking on this, you do actually need to have an sponsorship if you are not doing a directly productive job, so yes, no issue with that sponsorship. I personally put my own limit in gangster, drug dealing and prostitution money. The rest is fine, as it is about personal choices.


Title: Re: Sponsor Money from Casino, Is bad or Good?
Post by: Silberman on March 13, 2021, 03:24:30 AM
Its completely normal to promote their casino's for me. Just like ads that you see in television or in many different youtube channel. This type of marketing is not new, i see a bunch gaming channels that promote a new game even in tiktok there are many affiliate marketing from different companies promoted by influencer's.
I think so too, they are a business after all and every good businesses needs to have advertisements one way or another. In terms of is it good or bad, I think that it is a matter of perspective, for example, you are a devout Christian and you outspokenly denounce gambling which means that any form of sponsorship or such is going to be bad for you but if you are on the other side of the spectrum where you are an influencer who does anything for a meager sponsorship then casino sponsorship is a good thing.

I fully agree, and as long as tabacco companies and alcohol producers are allowed to make advertising, why not casinos? Both cigarettes and alcohol are bad for your body while gambling has no direct effect on your body. There might be some unlucky few who take it too far and lose a lot of money. But the sand is happening with lotteries. Usually the government's owns these so they don't mind too much. Casino advertisings and promotions should definitely be legalised.
I don't think there is anything wrong with promoting a casino, something that both of us are doing right now, however there is some form of advertising that is kind of deceiving, it is like for example in those infomercials in which you see people reacting positively to a product and then you find out that those people were actors, if those people were giving real reviews about the product you will not have anything to complain about but since they are actors there is something a little bit dishonest about it because they were going to give a good review no matter what since they were being paid, and some people may think the same about those that receive sponsor money from casinos.


Title: Re: Sponsor Money from Casino, Is bad or Good?
Post by: Goodluckmate.com on March 23, 2021, 10:48:39 PM
This is a very interesting topic, especially for someone who writes casino reviews. I think every partnership has the potential to be honest, deceiving, or even both in a way. Everything falls down to whether you choose to be open with your fans or not.

At GoodLuckMate, for example, we have a disclaimer and an entire page explaining to our readers how we make money. The disclaimer is visible at all times, so there's not a chance someone will miss it. That's our way of ensuring that our readers understand our business model. I'd say this is an honest approach as nobody would just randomly write over 800 casino reviews for the fun of it. Even when you want to help people and provide them useful information, you need to also make money to survive.

That said, if the people who are sponsored don't hide this information from their fans, I don't see a problem there. I think it's not fair to show off with 'real cash' and give false expectations and representations to your viewers. But, if they know that you're playing for fun with sponsored money or bonus money and they still enjoy watching you play, then that's perfectly fine.

Honesty is everything, regardless of whether you are in the crypto industry, iGaming industry, or any other industry really. If you want your fans to respect you, you must respect them, as well. Otherwise, you will quickly lose them and your reputation.


Title: Re: Sponsor Money from Casino, Is bad or Good?
Post by: cabron on March 24, 2021, 03:11:01 AM
This is a very interesting topic, especially for someone who writes casino reviews. I think every partnership has the potential to be honest, deceiving, or even both in a way. Everything falls down to whether you choose to be open with your fans or not.

At GoodLuckMate, for example, we have a disclaimer and an entire page explaining to our readers how we make money. The disclaimer is visible at all times, so there's not a chance someone will miss it. That's our way of ensuring that our readers understand our business model. I'd say this is an honest approach as nobody would just randomly write over 800 casino reviews for the fun of it. Even when you want to help people and provide them useful information, you need to also make money to survive.

That said, if the people who are sponsored don't hide this information from their fans, I don't see a problem there. I think it's not fair to show off with 'real cash' and give false expectations and representations to your viewers. But, if they know that you're playing for fun with sponsored money or bonus money and they still enjoy watching you play, then that's perfectly fine.

Honesty is everything, regardless of whether you are in the crypto industry, iGaming industry, or any other industry really. If you want your fans to respect you, you must respect them, as well. Otherwise, you will quickly lose them and your reputation.

A streamer could pretty well advertise the casino if he could try and learn more of the casino by trying and gambling on it too. You couldn't really promote well a product without trying it. Its going to be an outright lie telling the world that is a good casino to try out when he himself promoted it but has yet not even tried betting. Its plain and simple, they want people to learn from someone who personally have tried their services.


Title: Re: Sponsor Money from Casino, Is bad or Good?
Post by: Genemind on March 24, 2021, 06:08:54 AM
It's a marketing strategy, streamers are one of the best ways to promote games, casinos, etc. Since they have a lot of supporters and they can be a good influence on their viewers. However, I think they should be responsible for accepting such offers and never promoting bogus websites or platforms.


Title: Re: Sponsor Money from Casino, Is bad or Good?
Post by: Kittygalore on March 24, 2021, 06:28:32 AM
It's a marketing strategy, streamers are one of the best ways to promote games, casinos, etc. Since they have a lot of supporters and they can be a good influence on their viewers. However, I think they should be responsible for accepting such offers and never promoting bogus websites or platforms.
That really depends, streamers are not that rich so anytime a sponsor is going for them I think that they don't have any choice but to accept it because they too need the money, not to mention that most of the sponsors don't ask for too much to do to the streamer, just have their name in the screen or demonstrate some plays and that is about it. Responsibility will really be dependent on the streamer because it is a matter of personal principle.


Title: Re: Sponsor Money from Casino, Is bad or Good?
Post by: Pamadar on March 24, 2021, 06:37:07 AM

It's a marketing strategy, streamers are one of the best ways to promote games, casinos, etc. Since they have a lot of supporters and they can be a good influence on their viewers. However, I think they should be responsible for accepting such offers and never promoting bogus websites or platforms.

Influencers coming from the name itself, they can develop good relatioship
with their listeners and from that they are capable in bringing those listeners to what particualr venue
that they wanted to point those people, casino is just another business and using influencers is a good
way to get more traffics and attentions.


That really depends, streamers are not that rich so anytime a sponsor is going for them I think that they don't have any choice but to accept it because they too need the money, not to mention that most of the sponsors don't ask for too much to do to the streamer, just have their name in the screen or demonstrate some plays and that is about it. Responsibility will really be dependent on the streamer because it is a matter of personal principle.

Most of those influencers are aiming for money, if opportunities knocks on them then for sure they'll grab it and take advantage.

Bringing the name of the business creates influence, as simple as that streamers already done with the task.


Title: Re: Sponsor Money from Casino, Is bad or Good?
Post by: Kittygalore on March 24, 2021, 07:01:46 AM
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Most of those influencers are aiming for money, if opportunities knocks on them then for sure they'll grab it and take advantage.

Bringing the name of the business creates influence, as simple as that streamers already done with the task.
That is what exactly I am saying, I mean respect the grind because in the end in this unforgiving world, we all have to make money somehow. There are instances though that an influencer/Youtuber doesn't accept any sponsorship, one that I can think of is The Report of the Week's ReviewBrah, where he talked about fast foods sponsoring him but he didn't accept it because it will be unfair for his audience that they are lied by his fast food reviews.


Title: Re: Sponsor Money from Casino, Is bad or Good?
Post by: rodskee on March 24, 2021, 07:27:29 AM
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Most of those influencers are aiming for money, if opportunities knocks on them then for sure they'll grab it and take advantage.

Bringing the name of the business creates influence, as simple as that streamers already done with the task.
That is what exactly I am saying, I mean respect the grind because in the end in this unforgiving world, we all have to make money somehow. There are instances though that an influencer/Youtuber doesn't accept any sponsorship, one that I can think of is The Report of the Week's ReviewBrah, where he talked about fast foods sponsoring him but he didn't accept it because it will be unfair for his audience that they are lied by his fast food reviews.
Those Influencers That does not accept Sponsorships are those who has not Yet popular , they are still in the process that of gathering support and maybe in the future will have their Own sponsorship like what others has now.
also I believe that all those who creates reports and anything that impact gambling industries in Media has the intention of gaining response because this is all about Money .
remember that In gambling world there is nothing that speaks louder than Money and all those who claims to be enjoying ?
trust me majority of them are stupid that did not accept reality that they are into Money.


Title: Re: Sponsor Money from Casino, Is bad or Good?
Post by: Kittygalore on March 24, 2021, 07:38:51 AM
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Those Influencers That does not accept Sponsorships are those who has not Yet popular , they are still in the process that of gathering support and maybe in the future will have their Own sponsorship like what others has now.


trust me majority of them are stupid that did not accept reality that they are into Money.
It is a paradox that you will not accept a sponsorship if you are not famous don't you think? Influencers that aren't famous will take every sponsorship that will come their way because it meant that they are being recognized. What report are you talking about? The Report of the Week was the name of the Youtube channel and the host is called Reviewbrah. How do you know that majority of them are stupid that did not accept the reality that they are into money though?


Title: Re: Sponsor Money from Casino, Is bad or Good?
Post by: yayayo on March 24, 2021, 08:31:08 AM
Perhaps the moral thought plays a role, because a lot of money comes in from people who suffer from gambling addiction. On the other hand, people play with money and get entertainment in return. That seems to me to be the only fair thing about it, and they do it of their own free will. With gambling you have losers and winners. It is completely legal to accept sponsorship money from a casino.

ya.ya.yo!


Title: Re: Sponsor Money from Casino, Is bad or Good?
Post by: aysg76 on March 24, 2021, 12:03:37 PM
The casinos are now paying the infulencers to promote their casinos to attract new players on their paltform but sometimes this turns out to be a bad move because some sponsored Youtubers or infulencers portrays a false image of casino by faking bets in order to earn mony through lukerative ways which is very wrong.But sometimes the casino owners run sponsored programmes for promotion like paying athletes,putting boards on personal property or something like that which is most common way these days.So it depends on the person whether he is making money through legit ways or by choosing wrong paths to earn sponsored money.


Title: Re: Sponsor Money from Casino, Is bad or Good?
Post by: molsewid on March 24, 2021, 01:09:29 PM
It's a marketing strategy, streamers are one of the best ways to promote games, casinos, etc. Since they have a lot of supporters and they can be a good influence on their viewers. However, I think they should be responsible for accepting such offers and never promoting bogus websites or platforms.
Due to high competition of casino businesses today getting or hiring for a streamers was the best marketing strategy that they can do to attract gamers and gamblers. Aside from the good reviews that they have in their online sites, a plus or additional attraction to gamblers the live streaming of the streamers. Well of course those streamers have already a supporter/s that believes in them, in short they can bring their viewers and supporters to also try the casino they are promoting.


Title: Re: Sponsor Money from Casino, Is bad or Good?
Post by: michellee on March 24, 2021, 01:40:19 PM
It's a marketing strategy, streamers are one of the best ways to promote games, casinos, etc. Since they have a lot of supporters and they can be a good influence on their viewers. However, I think they should be responsible for accepting such offers and never promoting bogus websites or platforms.
Yes, the streamers need to be careful and always research for any offers that come to them. They can read reviews from many sources to know if the company is good enough and have a good reputation, so it will be safe for the audience to use it. That can be additional income for the streamer, especially if they can inform the site's real things. They can warn their audience to take responsibility if they want to use that site because the streamer is only promoting the site.


Title: Re: Sponsor Money from Casino, Is bad or Good?
Post by: oHnK on March 24, 2021, 01:43:58 PM
It's a marketing strategy, streamers are one of the best ways to promote games, casinos, etc. Since they have a lot of supporters and they can be a good influence on their viewers. However, I think they should be responsible for accepting such offers and never promoting bogus websites or platforms.
Due to high competition of casino businesses today getting or hiring for a streamers was the best marketing strategy that they can do to attract gamers and gamblers. Aside from the good reviews that they have in their online sites, a plus or additional attraction to gamblers the live streaming of the streamers. Well of course those streamers have already a supporter/s that believes in them, in short they can bring their viewers and supporters to also try the casino they are promoting.

I have no problem if the casino pays a certain amount of money to YouTubers or streamers as a form of their promotion.  But sometimes the fact is, there are a lot of influencers who over-promote their promotions.  And novice gamblers are lured and caught up with huge losses.  For example, my friend in the past, he was trapped in a marketing strategy of this kind and thought his money could easily be doubled, but he didn't have any leftover money.  It is very sad but it becomes a personal risk because playing gambling is an option that is not compelled by anyone.


Title: Re: Sponsor Money from Casino, Is bad or Good?
Post by: blockman on March 24, 2021, 02:43:36 PM
It's a marketing strategy, streamers are one of the best ways to promote games, casinos, etc. Since they have a lot of supporters and they can be a good influence on their viewers. However, I think they should be responsible for accepting such offers and never promoting bogus websites or platforms.
Yes, that's how a streamer or influencer going wrong with sponsorships. If they're not too diligent to do research first before accepting an offer.
I've seen some streamers and influencers that didn't really conduct research of what they've advertised. But that was for a different brand and industry, not related to gambling but that could happen in some streamers.


Title: Re: Sponsor Money from Casino, Is bad or Good?
Post by: uneng on March 24, 2021, 03:58:18 PM
It's a marketing strategy, streamers are one of the best ways to promote games, casinos, etc. Since they have a lot of supporters and they can be a good influence on their viewers. However, I think they should be responsible for accepting such offers and never promoting bogus websites or platforms.
Due to high competition of casino businesses today getting or hiring for a streamers was the best marketing strategy that they can do to attract gamers and gamblers. Aside from the good reviews that they have in their online sites, a plus or additional attraction to gamblers the live streaming of the streamers. Well of course those streamers have already a supporter/s that believes in them, in short they can bring their viewers and supporters to also try the casino they are promoting.

I have no problem if the casino pays a certain amount of money to YouTubers or streamers as a form of their promotion.  But sometimes the fact is, there are a lot of influencers who over-promote their promotions.  And novice gamblers are lured and caught up with huge losses.  For example, my friend in the past, he was trapped in a marketing strategy of this kind and thought his money could easily be doubled, but he didn't have any leftover money.  It is very sad but it becomes a personal risk because playing gambling is an option that is not compelled by anyone.
That is why it's very important to read and understand correctly all the terms and conditions of such promotions before depositing your money and applying to them. Many of these offers aren't easy as they look at first glance. Usually they force the gambler to risk a lot of money in order to receive an interesting reward.
Even if a streamer is spreading a promotion in a very positive way, spectators shouldn't listen to him only, because he might hide some important rules of the competition. Keep in mind streamers are just artists, like media's celebrities. They don't have any commitment to you, your money and welfare.


Title: Re: Sponsor Money from Casino, Is bad or Good?
Post by: hahay on March 24, 2021, 09:38:50 PM
The casinos are now paying the infulencers to promote their casinos to attract new players on their paltform but sometimes this turns out to be a bad move because some sponsored Youtubers or infulencers portrays a false image of casino by faking bets in order to earn mony through lukerative ways which is very wrong.But sometimes the casino owners run sponsored programmes for promotion like paying athletes,putting boards on personal property or something like that which is most common way these days.So it depends on the person whether he is making money through legit ways or by choosing wrong paths to earn sponsored money.
Unfortunately, they are basically doing the right thing to increase their popularity by continuing to make promotions and there's nothing wrong with that, but something that goes wrong is when infulencers get paid to make fake bets. Instead of increasing popularity but it only makes people might lose interest if they realize that it is just a fake bet, I think it would be better to make promotions like free spins or deposit bonuses etc. Because in the old way like this, it seems to have a greater chance of attracting a lot of people to join.


Title: Re: Sponsor Money from Casino, Is bad or Good?
Post by: Quidat on March 24, 2021, 09:40:58 PM
It's a marketing strategy, streamers are one of the best ways to promote games, casinos, etc. Since they have a lot of supporters and they can be a good influence on their viewers. However, I think they should be responsible for accepting such offers and never promoting bogus websites or platforms.
Yes, that's how a streamer or influencer going wrong with sponsorships. If they're not too diligent to do research first before accepting an offer.
I've seen some streamers and influencers that didn't really conduct research of what they've advertised. But that was for a different brand and industry, not related to gambling but that could happen in some streamers.
Do you think that they would really care up that much? No they wont and as long there would be salaries or money can be generated on then they wont really be bothering themselves
if its a legit or shady business or company as long they would be paid up then it wouldnt really be much of an issue for their side.Yes, their reputation can be tainted but it would really
be just pass away and be forgotten if he does still continue to make out some sponsorship vids.He would just simply tell into his videos that always use the money that you can
afford to risk and if issues do exist then he would just simply wash off hands.


Title: Re: Sponsor Money from Casino, Is bad or Good?
Post by: iTradeChips on March 24, 2021, 11:02:49 PM
Based on my observation in some of these videos, mostly these people are using Youtube as their platform of choice, maybe less for some of the other platforms. And maybe most of them does not really take into consideration if these casinos are legit or not before accepting these sponsorships. I mean I have not seen any illegal yet but scams and failed casino there few from my observation. That should not affect the reputation of these youtubers because they are simply advertising or were "employed" as video marketers.
But on having that ethical side of things, arent you worried into those players who had made deposits just because you had advertised a scammy casino or it turns out to be having an exit scam or not really fair at all?
If you are a type of person or advertiser who do just simply mind of the money without minding others situation on losing theirs then i cant blame you but there are people who do really make out research first before
accepting any advertisement neither those companies are legit or not even though it might not able to affect your reputation but your conscience will really be on ease.
Well, this is just my own view or feeling.

Well, in my mind, those Youtubers and advertisers and marketers of these scammy casinos, have no idea that their casino is a scam in the first place. Just like any bounty hunter trying to market a scam project. They do their job of promoting the casino and project and do all these campaigns. The casino rakes in money in form of investors or players. Then they just decided after a long time of operations to cease the casino operations, taking away the money. It is not the advertisers fault they got people into the business. It is advertising and they just did their job. Should I be guilty I marketed a casino that scammed people after a few months? No, because I don't have a clue when I first signed up with them. Only SJW's and their cancel culture would be the ones putting a nail on me and I will fight it as well.