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Title: Is it safe to us to get Covid -19 Vaccine?
Post by: Shamm on July 06, 2021, 12:12:03 PM

 There are many Vaccines that made off everywhere but the main question in everybody that Vaccine are is it safe to us? Due of this pandemic which is Covid-19 around the world experienced a different Normal life and the Government declared a good vision for their people.

 These are the following Vaccine's and there Relevant Content below.


AstraZeneca Covid Vaccine
Pfizer Vaccine
Covaxin Vaccine
Moderna Vaccine
Sinovac Vaccine
Coronvac Vaccine


 
   AstraZeneca Covid Vaccine
  
     Is the AstraZeneca vaccine safe?

Yes, it is very safe.

  The Oxford/AstraZeneca vaccine was approved for use after being thoroughly tested on tens of thousands of people. On top of that, up to 23 June over 24.5 million people have now had a first dose of this vaccine in the UK, the overwhelming majority without any serious side effects or reactions.

   The World Health Organization, the medicines regulator in Europe, and the UK’s own medicines regulator have continued to monitor the safety of the vaccine. They have all said that the Oxford/AstraZeneca vaccine (also known as Vaxzevria) is safe and emphasised that the benefits continue to outweigh the risks.

What side effects does the AstraZeneca vaccine have?


Like all medicines, vaccines can cause side effects. Many people don't get any side effects.

   For the Oxford/AstraZeneca vaccine (like the other vaccines), the vast majority of side effects that occur are mild and short-term.

The most common side effects are discomfort at the injection site, or feeling generally unwell, tired, or feverish, or a headache, feeling sick or having joint or muscle pain. You can take paracetamol to treat any of these side effects.

Often side effects are a sign that the vaccine is doing its job: it can happen with many vaccines that some people might feel slightly unwell because their immune system is responding to the protein, but this is not a Covid-19 illness and the vaccine can’t give you coronavirus.

These are the side effects that have been reported so far:
 
Reference:
 https://www.bhf.org.uk/informationsupport/heart-matters-magazine/news/coronavirus-and-your-health/astrazeneca-covid-vaccine#astraside
    
  Pfizer Vaccine
 
 The Pfizer-BioNTech vaccine is recommended for people 12 years and older.

 Who Should NOT Get Vaccinated

    If you have had a severe allergic reaction (anaphylaxis) or an immediate allergic reaction, even if it was not severe, to any ingredient in an mRNA COVID-19 vaccine (such as polyethylene glycol), you should not get either of the mRNA COVID-19 vaccines.
  
   If you had a severe or immediate allergic reaction after getting the first dose of an mRNA COVID-19 vaccine, you should not get a second dose of either of the mRNA COVID-19 vaccines.

   A severe allergic reaction is one that needs to be treated with epinephrine or EpiPen or with medical care. Learn about common side effects of COVID-19 vaccines and when to call a doctor.

  Possible Side Effects
In the arm where you got the shot:


Pain
Redness
Swelling

Throughout the rest of your body
:

Tiredness
Headache
Muscle pain
Chills
Fever
Nausea
  
    Reference: https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/vaccines/different-vaccines/Pfizer-BioNTech.html


  Covaxin Vaccine


   COVAXIN®, India's indigenous COVID-19 vaccine by Bharat Biotech is developed in collaboration with the Indian Council of Medical Research (ICMR) - National Institute of Virology (NIV).

   It is a 2-dose vaccination regimen given 28 days apart.

   It is a vaccine with no sub-zero storage, no reconstitution requirement, and ready to use liquid presentation in multi-dose vials, stable at 2-8oC.

   Pre-clinical studies: Demonstrated strong immunogenicity and protective efficacy in animal challenge studies conducted in hamsters & non-human primates. For more information about our animal study, please visit our blog page on Non-Human Primates.

   Moderna Vaccine

   Who Should Get Vaccinated

  The Moderna vaccine is recommended for people aged 18 years and older.

General Information
 Name: mRNA-1273

Manufacturer: ModernaTX, Inc.

Type of Vaccine: mRNA

Number of Shots: 2 shots, 28 days apart

How Given: Shot in the muscle of the upper arm

   Sinovac Vaccine

  The WHO Strategic Advisory Group of Experts (SAGE) on Immunization has issued Interim recommendations for the use of the inactivated COVID-19 vaccine, Sinovac-CoronaVac, developed by Sinovac/China National Pharmaceutical Group.
 
   Who should be vaccinated first?

  While COVID-19 vaccine supplies are limited, health workers at high risk of exposure and older people should be prioritised for vaccination.

   Countries can refer to the WHO Prioritization Roadmap and the WHO Values Framework as guidance for their prioritisation of target groups.

   The vaccine is not recommended for persons younger than 18 years of age, pending the results of further studied in that age group.

   Vaccine effectiveness is expected to be similar in lactating women as in other adults. WHO recommends the use of the COVID-19 vaccine Sinovac-CoronaVac in lactating women as in other adults. WHO does not recommend discontinuing breastfeeding after vaccination.

 Reference: https://www.who.int/news-room/feature-stories/detail/the-sinovac-covid-19-vaccine-what-you-need-to-know

 This topic may Help you to choose the right Vaccine's that is suitable for your condition and health's to prevent Covid-19 enter to our Body. I Provided the link also so that
 If you want more information regards this Vaccine you can easily find out.
 
 Life is precious ,Choose the right thing


Title: Re: Is it safe to us to get Vaccine?
Post by: Natsuu on July 06, 2021, 02:44:01 PM
Getting the vaccine is not entirely safe, but statistically safe.

While there are deaths due to some complications with the doses of the vaccine, there is much more normal reactions which makes the deaths negligible if you analze it.

As of now, there are about 1.2 m vaccinated peeps in the US and only about 7k vaccine related deaths


Title: Re: Is it safe to us to get Vaccine?
Post by: franky1 on July 06, 2021, 05:22:41 PM
Getting the vaccine is not entirely safe, but statistically safe.

While there are deaths due to some complications with the doses of the vaccine, there is much more normal reactions which makes the deaths negligible if you analze it.

As of now, there are about 1.2 m vaccinated peeps in the US and only about 7k vaccine related deaths

150m double vaccinated people and only 7k deaths (0.0046%)
however diabeties is a 10% infliction(32m) and kills 270k(0.8%)
however 33m had covid and 600k deaths(1.8%)

so you got more chance of dying from food choices and covid than from the vaccine
oh and
234m have driving licences, 38k road deaths
(represents 150m would be 24k)

you are 3x more likely to be killed in a road accident than a vaccine
so if you fear the vaccine. stay off the road and have 3x more fear of cars


Title: Re: Is it safe to us to get Vaccine?
Post by: WNTRjon on July 06, 2021, 05:43:17 PM
I would feel safer getting every version of the vaccine twice in 2 months than I would be walking to the store every day over the same period.

Vaccines save lives. They have been doing that for many decades, and they continue to do so.


Title: Re: Is it safe to us to get Vaccine?
Post by: BADecker on July 06, 2021, 10:29:29 PM
I would feel safer getting every version of the vaccine twice in 2 months than I would be walking to the store every day over the same period.

Vaccines save lives. They have been doing that for many decades, and they continue to do so.

The so-called Covid vaccine isn't a vaccine. It's a gene editing test serum.

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Title: Re: Is it safe to us to get Vaccine?
Post by: Shamm on July 07, 2021, 04:04:53 AM
Getting the vaccine is not entirely safe, but statistically safe.

While there are deaths due to some complications with the doses of the vaccine, there is much more normal reactions which makes the deaths negligible if you analze it.

As of now, there are about 1.2 m vaccinated peeps in the US and only about 7k vaccine related deaths

   Yes That's why it's better to read and ask regards Vaccine indication if what are the dosage that be taken and who are able can take the Vaccine. Before that we must Consult the doctor our condition if we are able to get Vaccine after the test.


Title: Re: Is it safe to us to get Covid -19 Vaccine?
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Title: Re: Is it safe to us to get Covid -19 Vaccine?
Post by: Megaquake on July 09, 2021, 02:08:40 AM
Haiti, Burundi, and Tanzania refused vaccines. Now their Presidents are all dead. Nothing to see here, move along!


Title: Re: Is it safe to us to get Covid -19 Vaccine?
Post by: BADecker on July 09, 2021, 03:17:13 AM
Haiti, Burundi, and Tanzania refused vaccines. Now their Presidents are all dead. Nothing to see here, move along!

Big Pharma's long arm of assassins.     8)


Title: Re: Is it safe to us to get Covid -19 Vaccine?
Post by: Xinarae* on July 09, 2021, 04:21:38 AM
Many countries around the world feel that vaccines have reduced the rate of infection by providing safe vaccines. In order to deal with the epidemic all countries should adopt the policy of providing vaccinations for the most vulnerable segments of the population of all countries instead of providing vaccinations for all in one country. UNICEF will use its unique strengths in our joint efforts for vaccination to ensure that all countries receive the initial doses of vaccine safely quickly and fairly.


Title: Re: Is it safe to us to get Covid -19 Vaccine?
Post by: tvbcof on July 09, 2021, 04:52:48 AM
Haiti, Burundi, and Tanzania refused vaccines. Now their Presidents are all dead. Nothing to see here, move along!

Big Pharma's long arm of assassins.

Yeah, it wasn't possible to set up 100% of the 'leadership' of 'the nations' with controllable puppets prior to starting this round of the Great Games.

I love how the president of Tanzania was replaced by some bitch who spent her career playing with UN money.  Magufuli signed his own death warrant when he sent a papaya fruit in for testing in the internationally run PCR labs and it came up hot for 'covid'.  Or at least when he decided to make the results known to the world.



Title: Re: Is it safe to us to get Covid -19 Vaccine?
Post by: tabas on July 09, 2021, 02:46:26 PM
History, in the past, there were pandemics also and vaccine stopped the outbreak. In today's time, the same thing will end the pandemic. What's the sad part about vaccines, companies have their own preference and some countries too but anyway, a vaccine is a vaccine.


Title: Re: Is it safe to us to get Covid -19 Vaccine?
Post by: evilgreed on July 09, 2021, 05:08:22 PM
               With all the contrasting information out there about these huge variety of vaccines accessible and non-accessible here where I currently am residing, I really cannot deny that I was and still am very scared by it. But regardless of my fears, I still took the vacvine, astrazenica. I need to go out and provide for the people relying on me, and it scares me more that I may not be able to provide or may even be the cause for the people I care about being infected. My second dose will be on the 25th day of this month I hope all goes well like the first dose.


Title: Re: Is it safe to us to get Covid -19 Vaccine?
Post by: virasog on July 10, 2021, 08:56:51 AM
History, in the past, there were pandemics also and vaccine stopped the outbreak. In today's time, the same thing will end the pandemic. What's the sad part about vaccines, companies have their own preference and some countries too but anyway, a vaccine is a vaccine.

The question that Covid -19 Vaccine (any variant) is safe or not, is irrelevant because with the passage of time, everyone will have to get vaccinated and those who will not get vaccinated will not be able to get the basic necessity of life as vaccinate certificate will be made mandatory for everything.


Title: Re: Is it safe to us to get Vaccine?
Post by: Ultegra134 on July 10, 2021, 09:10:56 AM
Getting the vaccine is not entirely safe, but statistically safe.

While there are deaths due to some complications with the doses of the vaccine, there is much more normal reactions which makes the deaths negligible if you analze it.

As of now, there are about 1.2 m vaccinated peeps in the US and only about 7k vaccine related deaths

150m double vaccinated people and only 7k deaths (0.0046%)
however diabeties is a 10% infliction(32m) and kills 270k(0.8%)
however 33m had covid and 600k deaths(1.8%)

so you got more chance of dying from food choices and covid than from the vaccine
oh and
234m have driving licences, 38k road deaths
(represents 150m would be 24k)

you are 3x more likely to be killed in a road accident than a vaccine
so if you fear the vaccine. stay off the road and have 3x more fear of cars
Couldn't agree more, after so many million vaccinations, there are only a few reported deaths (Which I doubt that they are 7,000 as the previous poster commented), which is statistically insignificant. On top of that, more than a few of those reported deaths might have nothing to do with the vaccinations, let's keep in mind that even medicine we use daily might have severe side effects, but they are rarely or never occurring.

I got vaccinated last week, and had no side effects whatsoever, only a little arm pain on the shot's location, which was gone a few days later.



Title: Re: Is it safe to us to get Vaccine?
Post by: FIFA worldcup on July 10, 2021, 09:17:26 AM
I got vaccinated last week, and had no side effects whatsoever, only a little arm pain on the shot's location, which was gone a few days later.


Which vaccine did you got last week ?  Sinovac Vaccine, as this vaccine is known that it does not have any side effects and not even have a mild fever.
People say that AstraZeneca Covid Vaccine has a lot of side effects while if you take Pfizer Vaccine, you will get a high fever in a day or two.


Title: Re: Is it safe to us to get Vaccine?
Post by: Ultegra134 on July 10, 2021, 09:26:46 AM
I got vaccinated last week, and had no side effects whatsoever, only a little arm pain on the shot's location, which was gone a few days later.


Which vaccine did you got last week ?  Sinovac Vaccine, as this vaccine is known that it does not have any side effects and not even have a mild fever.
People say that AstraZeneca Covid Vaccine has a lot of side effects while if you take Pfizer Vaccine, you will get a high fever in a day or two.
I'm sorry I forgot to mention that, I had the first dose of the Pfizer vaccine, I'm getting the second in 24th of July. I had no side effects whatsoever, my girlfriend, on the other hand, had a bit more pain in the arm and some topical bruising on the area of the injection.

I had scheduled for the Johnson vaccine at first, but I changed it because I was having exams during that week and didn't want to have any potential side effects, such as a headache or some low fever. Likewise, I was afraid that I would be feeling a little drowsy and wouldn't be able to concentrate on my exams.


Title: Re: Is it safe to us to get Covid -19 Vaccine?
Post by: tabas on July 10, 2021, 11:21:27 PM
History, in the past, there were pandemics also and vaccine stopped the outbreak. In today's time, the same thing will end the pandemic. What's the sad part about vaccines, companies have their own preference and some countries too but anyway, a vaccine is a vaccine.

The question that Covid -19 Vaccine (any variant) is safe or not, is irrelevant because with the passage of time, everyone will have to get vaccinated and those who will not get vaccinated will not be able to get the basic necessity of life as vaccinate certificate will be made mandatory for everything.
That's true. Some countries were already imposing incentives and basic rules about getting vaccinated and separating services from the vaccinated to the not yet vaccinated.
Whether you like it or not, it's your choice if you need those services or you want to have that feeling of security and easier access, they're giving those incentives to the vaccinated people.


Title: Re: Is it safe to us to get Covid -19 Vaccine?
Post by: Ultegra134 on July 11, 2021, 08:39:02 AM
History, in the past, there were pandemics also and vaccine stopped the outbreak. In today's time, the same thing will end the pandemic. What's the sad part about vaccines, companies have their own preference and some countries too but anyway, a vaccine is a vaccine.

The question that Covid -19 Vaccine (any variant) is safe or not, is irrelevant because with the passage of time, everyone will have to get vaccinated and those who will not get vaccinated will not be able to get the basic necessity of life as vaccinate certificate will be made mandatory for everything.
That's true. Some countries were already imposing incentives and basic rules about getting vaccinated and separating services from the vaccinated to the not yet vaccinated.
Whether you like it or not, it's your choice if you need those services or you want to have that feeling of security and easier access, they're giving those incentives to the vaccinated people.
Greece has imposed a rule that in order to travel (by sea, airplane etc.) you'll need to provide a valid 48hour Rapid or 72hour PCR test, in an effort to tackle the pandemic and promote vaccinations. Fully vaccinated people are exempt from this rule. On top of that, it is now being discussed to impost the same regulations to travel from one county to another, or in order to attend indoor cinema, restaurants and so on.

Only time will tell, however, vaccines are our only weapon to tackle this pandemic.


Title: Re: Is it safe to us to get Covid -19 Vaccine?
Post by: BADecker on July 12, 2021, 12:57:17 AM
The mRNA gene therapy serum is just the start... hahaha!

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Title: Re: Is it safe to us to get Covid -19 Vaccine?
Post by: Tash on July 12, 2021, 04:15:48 AM
Can it get any crazier are people really thag stupid
Senate admits test Animals kept dying during mRNA Vaccine trials
https://youtu.be/ZfOjvfjFwOg

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Title: Re: Is it safe to us to get Vaccine?
Post by: Shamm on July 16, 2021, 11:34:54 AM
I got vaccinated last week, and had no side effects whatsoever, only a little arm pain on the shot's location, which was gone a few days later.


Which vaccine did you got last week ?  Sinovac Vaccine, as this vaccine is known that it does not have any side effects and not even have a mild fever.
People say that AstraZeneca Covid Vaccine has a lot of side effects while if you take Pfizer Vaccine, you will get a high fever in a day or two.
Astrazeneca has many side effects  compare to other Vaccine .. for me I'LL choose sinovac  because in my condition sinovac is fit for me..


Title: Re: Is it safe to us to get Vaccine?
Post by: Ultegra134 on July 16, 2021, 12:10:45 PM
I got vaccinated last week, and had no side effects whatsoever, only a little arm pain on the shot's location, which was gone a few days later.


Which vaccine did you got last week ?  Sinovac Vaccine, as this vaccine is known that it does not have any side effects and not even have a mild fever.
People say that AstraZeneca Covid Vaccine has a lot of side effects while if you take Pfizer Vaccine, you will get a high fever in a day or two.
Astrazeneca has many side effects  compare to other Vaccine .. for me I'LL choose sinovac  because in my condition sinovac is fit for me..
Isn't Sinovac China's vaccine? Haven't really noticed if Sinovac is being distributed in Europe, where are you located, if you don't mind me asking? Moreover, statistically speaking, even AstraZeneca's vaccine side effect cases are completely insignificant, compared to how many people have been vaccinated with it.


Title: Re: Is it safe to us to get Covid -19 Vaccine?
Post by: Renampun on July 16, 2021, 08:33:16 PM
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next august I will get a second vaccine injection which is held for free by the government of my country...

So far the covid vaccine that is injected into my body is quite safe, as long as I don't have heart disease or high blood pressure, the doctor says the vaccine won't be a problem for my body.


Title: Re: Is it safe to us to get Covid -19 Vaccine?
Post by: bakasabo on July 16, 2021, 08:42:54 PM
next august I will get a second vaccine injection which is held for free by the government of my country...

So far the covid vaccine that is injected into my body is quite safe, as long as I don't have heart disease or high blood pressure, the doctor says the vaccine won't be a problem for my body.

Be ready that after you get your second vaccine, in next 24h you would probably have high temperature and would feel bad or completely destroyed. So dont plan anything urgent on the next after your second shot. There is no 100% probability that you would feel terrible after second shot, but most people do.

Basically vaccine is safe, as long as you are healthy and have a good immune system. If not, then there is a chance that second shot will try to stimulate new or sharpen previous your illnesses.


Title: Re: Is it safe to us to get Covid -19 Vaccine?
Post by: tvbcof on July 16, 2021, 08:45:54 PM

next august I will get a second vaccine injection which is held for free by the government of my country...

So far the covid vaccine that is injected into my body is quite safe, as long as I don't have heart disease or high blood pressure, the doctor says the vaccine won't be a problem for my body.

Any doctor or anyone else who would state that are not to be trusted because there are necessarily a lot of incompletely known things, and to some degree harm comes down to simple chance.  But anyway, if the doctor did NOT say that they wouldn't be a doctor for much longer in our current environment.

Actually, if you are good friends with the right doctor, and they trust that you will keep your mouth shut, you could hear something quite different.  It happens.



Title: Re: Is it safe to us to get Covid -19 Vaccine?
Post by: Ultegra134 on July 16, 2021, 09:08:57 PM
next august I will get a second vaccine injection which is held for free by the government of my country...

So far the covid vaccine that is injected into my body is quite safe, as long as I don't have heart disease or high blood pressure, the doctor says the vaccine won't be a problem for my body.

Be ready that after you get your second vaccine, in next 24h you would probably have high temperature and would feel bad or completely destroyed. So dont plan anything urgent on the next after your second shot. There is no 100% probability that you would feel terrible after second shot, but most people do.

Basically vaccine is safe, as long as you are healthy and have a good immune system. If not, then there is a chance that second shot will try to stimulate new or sharpen previous your illnesses.
I've also heard about this, regarding the Pfizer vaccine, which I'm getting next Thursday. However, I haven't heard of many cases of high fever, but only mere effects of feeling drowsy or dizzy. I didn't have any side effects with the first dose whatsoever, I'll get back and report to this thread when I receive the 2nd dose.


Title: Re: Is it safe to us to get Covid -19 Vaccine?
Post by: BADecker on July 16, 2021, 09:36:44 PM
Natural occurring immunity to a virus beats vaccination any day. But these serums aren't vaccines... except in name.


Research: Natural covid infection creates real immunity while vaccines destroy it (https://www.naturalnews.com/2021-07-16-covid-infection-creates-real-immunity-vaccines-destroy.html#)



Testing “positive” for the Wuhan coronavirus (Covid-19) and later recovering from it, assuming you got sick at all, provides lasting immunity that science shows (https://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/309762) cannot be conferred through “vaccination.”

The latest figures presented to the Israeli Health Ministry show that Chinese Virus injections do not provide any type of lasting protection against disease. In fact, they increase a person’s risk of contracting and testing positive for variants like “delta,” which are now said to be circulating.

According to the science, those who already had the Fauci Flu at some point throughout the past year were immune to Israel’s recent “outbreak,” while those who got injected have been falling ill and dying from the latest “wave” of the virus.

More than 7,700 “cases” of the Wuhan Flu were detected in Israel during the latest variant surge, and only 72 of them, or less than one percent, occurred in people who had previously contracted the Chinese Virus. More than 3,000 patients, or about 40 percent of new cases, meanwhile, were detected in people who had gotten injected in compliance with the government’s command.

“With a total of 835,792 Israelis known to have recovered from the virus, the 72 instances of reinfection amount to 0.0086% of people who were already infected with COVID,” reported Israel National News.

“By contrast, Israelis who were vaccinated were 6.72 times more likely to get infected after the shot than after natural infection, with over 3,000 of the 5,193,499, or 0.0578%, of Israelis who were vaccinated getting infected in the latest wave.”

Vaccines are the true virus – JUST SAY NO!

The news has, as you might expect, greatly divided Israel’s Health Ministry experts, some of whom are Branch Covidians who have put their full and undivided faith in the injections, and others who are more skeptical.

Adherents to the religion of Faucism simply cannot process a world in which chemical mRNA injections are anything other than the perfect cure for Chinese Germs, guiding us all into the “new normal” as genetically modified (GMO) chimeras.

Nancy Reagan...


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Title: Re: Is it safe to us to get Covid -19 Vaccine?
Post by: Shamm on July 18, 2021, 12:06:34 AM
The mRNA gene therapy serum is just the start... hahaha

Yes I'll Agree with you: https://www.nature.com/articles/s41435-021-00136-6


Title: Re: Is it safe to us to get Covid -19 Vaccine?
Post by: Ultegra134 on July 18, 2021, 04:48:23 AM
The mRNA gene therapy serum is just the start... hahaha

Yes I'll Agree with you: https://www.nature.com/articles/s41435-021-00136-6
Believe it or not, the mRNA is a very promising technology for a variety of diseases that it's been currently tested, such as cancer. With the advance of technology, we'll be able to face diseases that were incurable in the past.

Leave BADecker aside though, he's a full time conspiracy theorist.


Title: Re: Is it safe to us to get Covid -19 Vaccine?
Post by: Tash on July 18, 2021, 05:57:47 AM
A month ago over 15000 deaths and millions injured in Europe
https://stuartbramhall.wordpress.com/2021/06/22/15472-dead-1-5-million-injured-50-serious-reported-in-european-unions-database-of-adverse-drug-reactions-for-covid-19-shots/

In the US 12000 death and only about 10% of cases reported.
https://healthimpactnews.com/2021/censored-cdc-records-almost-12000-deaths-in-7-months-following-covid-19-injections/

Sure raises some eyebrows, makes your eyes turn inside out.
https://twitter.com/agvBruceAdams/status/1406952287637970950


Title: Re: Is it safe to us to get Covid -19 Vaccine?
Post by: Ultegra134 on July 18, 2021, 06:48:11 AM
A month ago over 15000 deaths and millions injured in Europe
https://stuartbramhall.wordpress.com/2021/06/22/15472-dead-1-5-million-injured-50-serious-reported-in-european-unions-database-of-adverse-drug-reactions-for-covid-19-shots/

In the US 12000 death and only about 10% of cases reported.
https://healthimpactnews.com/2021/censored-cdc-records-almost-12000-deaths-in-7-months-following-covid-19-injections/

Sure raises some eyebrows, makes your eyes turn inside out.
https://twitter.com/agvBruceAdams/status/1406952287637970950
You're quoting some random WordPress websites with doubtful sources, which even supposing they are true, it's still not that big of a deal, but antivaxxers seem to stick on every little information they find.

I highly doubt that these numbers are accurate, and even if they are, if you do the maths, it's probably less than 1 in a million probability that you have life threatening side effects, while chances of being infected with Covid is 1 in 100.000.


Title: Re: Is it safe to us to get Covid -19 Vaccine?
Post by: tvbcof on July 18, 2021, 07:05:40 AM
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You're quoting some random WordPress websites with doubtful sources, which even supposing they are true, it's still not that big of a deal, but antivaxxers seem to stick on every little information they find.

I highly doubt that these numbers are accurate, and even if they are, if you do the maths, it's probably less than 1 in a million probability that you have life threatening side effects, while chances of being infected with Covid is 1 in 100.000.

We 'anti-vaxer conspiracy theorists' don't normally do your 'new math'.

As always, one doesn't get 'infected with covid'.  One (probably) does get infected with SARS-cov-2 and usually never even knows it because the 'disease' is so mild.  The best estimates of the infection rate at the present time seem to be, conservatively, 1 in 2, and most of these infections in most regions happened over a year ago.

In short, this half of the population will have much better immunity to the whole family of SARS-cov-2 viruses (delta, delta+, gamma, epsilon, etc, etc) than people who got the gene therapy injection.  Even people who got immunity naturally can and are being set back by the jab because the gene therapy seems to neutralize the anti-bodies that their natural immune system generated to protect them.

It also seems that prior infected people are more likely to have an adverse event when they get the jab which, to the educated mind, screams 'antibody dependent enhancement'.



Title: Re: Is it safe to us to get Covid -19 Vaccine?
Post by: Ultegra134 on July 18, 2021, 08:28:38 AM
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You're quoting some random WordPress websites with doubtful sources, which even supposing they are true, it's still not that big of a deal, but antivaxxers seem to stick on every little information they find.

I highly doubt that these numbers are accurate, and even if they are, if you do the maths, it's probably less than 1 in a million probability that you have life threatening side effects, while chances of being infected with Covid is 1 in 100.000.

We 'anti-vaxer conspiracy theorists' don't normally do your 'new math'.

As always, one doesn't get 'infected with covid'.  One (probably) does get infected with SARS-cov-2 and usually never even knows it because the 'disease' is so mild.  The best estimates of the infection rate at the present time seem to be, conservatively, 1 in 2, and most of these infections in most regions happened over a year ago.

In short, this half of the population will have much better immunity to the whole family of SARS-cov-2 viruses (delta, delta+, gamma, epsilon, etc, etc) than people who got the gene therapy injection.  Even people who got immunity naturally can and are being set back by the jab because the gene therapy seems to neutralize the anti-bodies that their natural immune system generated to protect them.

It also seems that prior infected people are more likely to have an adverse event when they get the jab which, to the educated mind, screams 'antibody dependent enhancement'.


Severe vaccine side effects are only a rare occurrence, it's only a few cases, compared to the million of deaths in the world, by Covid-19. Those statistics you are claiming about vaccines, are way too insignificant, if you compare them to Covid-19 related deaths, but conspiracy theorists use them to point their finger at vaccinations.


Title: Re: Is it safe to us to get Covid -19 Vaccine?
Post by: Victorycoin on July 18, 2021, 08:48:28 AM
I think the vaccine is safe for everyone but you have to keep in mind what kind of vaccine you want to use, because there are so many types of vaccines that in some countries some people under the age of 35 are not being vaccinated. On the other hand, many people have very low immunity, I think it is very important for them to get vaccinated. However, some people have seen some reactions after receiving the vaccine, although this has not happened to everyone.


Title: Re: Is it safe to us to get Covid -19 Vaccine?
Post by: tvbcof on July 18, 2021, 08:50:04 AM

Severe vaccine side effects are only a rare occurrence, it's only a few cases, compared to the million of deaths in the world, by Covid-19. Those statistics you are claiming about vaccines, are way too insignificant, if you compare them to Covid-19 related deaths, but conspiracy theorists use them to point their finger at vaccinations.

If you trust the people telling you that, fine.  Go get your gene therapy if you like.  Just don't participate in pressuring me to make a different decision.  Doing so makes you someone who is assaulting me and posing a threat to me and my family.  Hopefully there will be an opportunity to balance the books in a fair and impartial court (Nuremberg-II) and you'll hopefully be categorized as just a duped fool rather than a higher level player.  If this does not happen things get progressively more ugly.



Title: Re: Is it safe to us to get Covid -19 Vaccine?
Post by: Natsuu on July 18, 2021, 08:51:26 AM

Severe vaccine side effects are only a rare occurrence, it's only a few cases, compared to the million of deaths in the world, by Covid-19. Those statistics you are claiming about vaccines, are way too insignificant, if you compare them to Covid-19 related deaths, but conspiracy theorists use them to point their finger at vaccinations.

If you trust the people telling you that, fine.  Go get your gene therapy if you like.  Just don't participate in pressuring me to make a different decision.  Doing so makes you someone who is assaulting me and posing a threat to me and my family.  Hopefully there will be an opportunity to balance the books in a fair and impartial court (Nuremberg-II) and you'll hopefully be categorized as just a duped fool rather than a higher level player.  If this does not happen things get progressively more ugly.

You're making a request of not pressuring you to take the vaccine, while giving a negative description to people who got vaccinated is weird.


Title: Re: Is it safe to us to get Covid -19 Vaccine?
Post by: tvbcof on July 18, 2021, 09:03:57 AM

Severe vaccine side effects are only a rare occurrence, it's only a few cases, compared to the million of deaths in the world, by Covid-19. Those statistics you are claiming about vaccines, are way too insignificant, if you compare them to Covid-19 related deaths, but conspiracy theorists use them to point their finger at vaccinations.

If you trust the people telling you that, fine.  Go get your gene therapy if you like.  Just don't participate in pressuring me to make a different decision.  Doing so makes you someone who is assaulting me and posing a threat to me and my family.  Hopefully there will be an opportunity to balance the books in a fair and impartial court (Nuremberg-II) and you'll hopefully be categorized as just a duped fool rather than a higher level player.  If this does not happen things get progressively more ugly.

You're making a request of not pressuring you to take the vaccine, while giving a negative description to people who got vaccinated is weird.

That doesn't actually make any sense.

Even though I don't actually feel comfortable having vaxxed people around my house because their are still some unknowns about the whole gene therapy spreading issue, I still don't discriminate against them.  I don't mind telling people my reasons for my choices, and in fact I consider it something of a duty.

As for listening to 'the other side', I don't mind doing it but it's not really very equitable because the details of 'your side' is well known and can be picked up just by listening to any corporate media outlet for 10 minutes.  It is utterly contentless for the purposes of doing analysis because there are almost never any links to real science, and when there are it says the opposite of that the barkers are saying when one bothers to read it.  There is not anything very interesting to learn unless one is analyzing at a lower level how they are hypnotizing the sheeple.



Title: Re: Is it safe to us to get Covid -19 Vaccine?
Post by: Natsuu on July 18, 2021, 09:27:06 AM

Severe vaccine side effects are only a rare occurrence, it's only a few cases, compared to the million of deaths in the world, by Covid-19. Those statistics you are claiming about vaccines, are way too insignificant, if you compare them to Covid-19 related deaths, but conspiracy theorists use them to point their finger at vaccinations.

If you trust the people telling you that, fine.  Go get your gene therapy if you like.  Just don't participate in pressuring me to make a different decision.  Doing so makes you someone who is assaulting me and posing a threat to me and my family.  Hopefully there will be an opportunity to balance the books in a fair and impartial court (Nuremberg-II) and you'll hopefully be categorized as just a duped fool rather than a higher level player.  If this does not happen things get progressively more ugly.

You're making a request of not pressuring you to take the vaccine, while giving a negative description to people who got vaccinated is weird.

That doesn't actually make any sense.

Even though I don't actually feel comfortable having vaxxed people around my house because their are still some unknowns about the whole gene therapy spreading issue, I still don't discriminate against them.  I don't mind telling people my reasons for my choices, and in fact I consider it something of a duty.

As for listening to 'the other side', I don't mind doing it but it's not really very equitable because the details of 'your side' is well known and can be picked up just by listening to any corporate media outlet for 10 minutes.  It is utterly contentless for the purposes of doing analysis because there are almost never any links to real science, and when there are it says the opposite of that the barkers are saying when one bothers to read it.  There is not anything very interesting to learn unless one is analyzing at a lower level how they are hypnotizing the sheeple.



Gene therapy? vaccine? I've read that somewhere, so I browse some for clarification and viola https://www.forbes.com/sites/brucelee/2021/03/17/covid-19-mrna-vaccines-are-not-gene-therapy-as-some-are-claiming/ (https://www.forbes.com/sites/brucelee/2021/03/17/covid-19-mrna-vaccines-are-not-gene-therapy-as-some-are-claiming/).

Anyway, the other side you mentioned is the side of the vaccinated which is very easy to understand because it was already concised, and summarized in many different ways, plus the reference can be looked upon in different researches that will support the claims. On the other side, it is very confusing as there are different claims here and there, and also debunking here and there. sooooo, okay, it is what it is


Title: Re: Is it safe to us to get Covid -19 Vaccine?
Post by: tvbcof on July 18, 2021, 01:45:57 PM
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Gene therapy? vaccine? I've read that somewhere, so I browse some for clarification and viola https://www.forbes.com/sites/brucelee/2021/03/17/covid-19-mrna-vaccines-are-not-gene-therapy-as-some-are-claiming/ (https://www.forbes.com/sites/brucelee/2021/03/17/covid-19-mrna-vaccines-are-not-gene-therapy-as-some-are-claiming/).

A 'gene' has been a sequence of nucleotides on a nucleic acid framework since I was in highschool.  DNA or RNA doesn't matter.  It's funny to see Forbes try to do an emergency marketing redefinition of this basic science term.  Someone should tell them to have their operatives with a wikipedia commit-bit do their part first at least.

Even if they can get their re-definition of what a 'gene' is done, it only helps for the mRNA gene therapy (Moderna, Pfizer.)  Most of the rest (J&J, AstraZeneca, Sputnic-V, etc) are DNA gene therapies.  The only common ones which are not gene therapy are Sinovac, Sinopharm, and Bhah-whatever from India.)  At least if the Chinese and Indian makers can be trusted which is doubtful.

Anyway, the other side you mentioned is the side of the vaccinated which is very easy to understand because it was already concised, and summarized in many different ways, plus the reference can be looked upon in different researches that will support the claims. On the other side, it is very confusing as there are different claims here and there, and also debunking here and there. sooooo, okay, it is what it is

It's 'easy to understand' because they are free to say whatever they want, and they dumb it down for sheeple.  The only challenge is to stay on top of the flip-flops.  And, for people like me, the art of double-think where I try to hold multiple conflicting set of knows simultaneously.



Title: Re: Is it safe to us to get Covid -19 Vaccine?
Post by: franky1 on July 18, 2021, 05:23:38 PM
gene therapy involves passing a cells nucleus membrane and changing the DNa inside

mRNA doesnt go into the nucleus. it goes into the ribosome
mRNa doesnt change the gene in the nucleus

mRNA vaccine instruction is to get the ribosome to do some protein creating

if anything its protein generative therapy..
not gene therapy

LEARN THE DIFFERENCE

Quote
gene is a basic unit of heredity and a sequence of nucleotides in DNA or RNA that encodes the synthesis of a gene product

mRNA vaccine makes proteins not more rna/gna genes..

heck if you cant even get it right where the proteins are made(ribosome not nucleus) then maybe you need to go back to highschool..


if you like analogies
imagine your sisters home.. and there is a yard with a cow in it
gene therapy is invading your sisters home going to her bedroom and imbreeding to produce an imbred offspring that based on you and your sisters genes (yes i feel you can atleast understand this scenario)

mrna vaccine goes to the yard and cuts up the cow to make protein burgers


Title: Re: Is it safe to us to get Covid -19 Vaccine?
Post by: tvbcof on July 18, 2021, 05:40:47 PM
gene therapy involves passing a cells nucleus membrane and changing the DNa inside

mRNA doesnt go into the nucleus. it goes into the ribosome
mRNa doesnt change the gene in the nucleus

mRNA vaccine instruction is to get the ribosome to do some protein creating

if anything its protein generative therapy..  ...


That's gene therapy.
 
Since the substance doesn't provide 'immunity', it's not a 'vaccine';  Recipients of the substance can still contract, culture in vitro, and pass on the viral infection to others.  All the thing does is 'lessen mild to moderate symptoms', and even that is nothing more than a claim made by the makers of the substance, and at best their research was skimmed by corrupt bureaucrats who get paid to stamp things.  Ergo, it is a 'therapy'.  The argument that it is a 'medical device' probably also has some merit.



Title: Re: Is it safe to us to get Covid -19 Vaccine?
Post by: franky1 on July 18, 2021, 05:49:30 PM
your body produces the immunity.. always has. no vaccine is about providing immunity.
its about triggering the bodies immunity in a safer way than a virus would

and again to really try geting you to open your closed mind

its not GENE editing. so not gene therapy
at most its protein generating therapy


Title: Re: Is it safe to us to get Covid -19 Vaccine?
Post by: tvbcof on July 18, 2021, 06:02:33 PM
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its not GENE editing. so not gene therapy
...

There is no doubt that there was gene editing.  They (claim to have) took genes sequenced in China and transmitted electronically, made some gene edits for the generated spike protein to hold certain unusual states longer, encapsulated the edited genes in lipid nano-particles, and had a fluid ready for injection in just two days.  Damn these guys are fast!  'They' being Moderna in this case.



Title: Re: Is it safe to us to get Covid -19 Vaccine?
Post by: franky1 on July 18, 2021, 06:33:55 PM
it doesnt edit YOUR genes

you really are pulling at straws trying to find any small twiglet of way to think of it as gene therapy
but its not. injecting the vaccine does not do any editing to your genes. so no gene therapy to you

it lacks the enzymes that pass through the nucleus barrier.
it lacks the tRNA and the other rna parts that would slice and dice your dna
the mRNA is just a messenger instruction to make a protein.. in the ribosome

there is no transcription/replication instructions..
there is no gene splicing instructions
there is no gene combining instruction


Title: Re: Is it safe to us to get Covid -19 Vaccine?
Post by: tvbcof on July 18, 2021, 07:13:41 PM
it doesnt edit YOUR genes
...

If they are inserted into your cells and reprogramming your cells to produce the designer's protein, they are 'your genes' in that sense.

In a legal sense, the genes are actually owned by the patent holder who can also exercise some legal claim over the cells operating on their program.  In other words, 'you' as a newly minted trans-human.



Title: Re: Is it safe to us to get Covid -19 Vaccine?
Post by: Ultegra134 on July 18, 2021, 08:19:15 PM
gene therapy involves passing a cells nucleus membrane and changing the DNa inside

mRNA doesnt go into the nucleus. it goes into the ribosome
mRNa doesnt change the gene in the nucleus

mRNA vaccine instruction is to get the ribosome to do some protein creating

if anything its protein generative therapy..
not gene therapy

LEARN THE DIFFERENCE

Quote
gene is a basic unit of heredity and a sequence of nucleotides in DNA or RNA that encodes the synthesis of a gene product

mRNA vaccine makes proteins not more rna/gna genes..

heck if you cant even get it right where the proteins are made(ribosome not nucleus) then maybe you need to go back to highschool..


if you like analogies
imagine your sisters home.. and there is a yard with a cow in it
gene therapy is invading your sisters home going to her bedroom and imbreeding to produce an imbred offspring that based on you and your sisters genes (yes i feel you can atleast understand this scenario)

mrna vaccine goes to the yard and cuts up the cow to make protein burgers
I highly doubt that he even knows what a ribosome is. Anyway, I've also read how mRNA vaccines work, and they are way more advanced than the traditional vaccines we had as kids. However, I don't see much use to even try explaining that to anti-vaxxers, they believe what they want to believe. On top of that, he is discriminating against vaccinated people, but at the same time claiming that we are pressuring our opinion on him.
it doesnt edit YOUR genes
...

If they are inserted into your cells and reprogramming your cells to produce the designer's protein, they are 'your genes' in that sense.

In a legal sense, the genes are actually owned by the patent holder who can also exercise some legal claim over the cells operating on their program.  In other words, 'you' as a newly minted trans-human.


Anyway, you are free to believe whatever you want, science has spoken, and I highly doubt that you have more knowledge than those who have spend years of studying and research, only for you to prove them wrong.


Title: Re: Is it safe to us to get Covid -19 Vaccine?
Post by: franky1 on July 18, 2021, 10:01:09 PM
reprogramming your cells to produce the designer's protein,

there is no reprogramming of cell
the ribosome does not change

if you cant understand science. look in your kitchen
if a recipe says get a cup of water. the cup does not change.
if a recipe says put ingredients together. the bowl does not change
if a recipe says put it in the oven. the oven does not change

a oven does not change into a meat grinder. its still an oven
a oven does not change into a meat patty mold. its still an oven

the recipe only works if it uses what already exists.
the recipe is created to function using the bodies natural machinery

making a cake does not mean you have to change any kitchen appliance into a new device

.. now i really hope you atleast know how yo make some basic food in your kitchen to understand reality of how things work

every human has a ribosome. there is no need to change it or create a ribosome to then produce the protein
the mRNA does not have the lengthy complex code to change or make a new ribosome


Title: Re: Is it safe to us to get Covid -19 Vaccine?
Post by: tvbcof on July 19, 2021, 02:31:07 AM
reprogramming your cells to produce the designer's protein,

there is no reprogramming of cell
the ribosome does not change
...

The ribosome is what is being programmed.  The gene is the code which programs it insofar as it dictates what protein the ribosome will produce.

This is very basic stuff.  So basic that almost anyone can understand it and thus see through your techno-babble very easily if they choose to take a few seconds to do so.  You should up your game just a little bit at least.



Title: Re: Is it safe to us to get Covid -19 Vaccine?
Post by: Tash on July 19, 2021, 04:35:17 AM

Albert Bourla Pfizer CEO does not take the poision shot, what a surprise
https://youtu.be/mTH5D3Tyb8c?t=98


Title: Re: Is it safe to us to get Covid -19 Vaccine?
Post by: Mauser on July 19, 2021, 06:20:06 AM

Albert Bourla Pfizer CEO does not take the poision shot, what a surprise
https://youtu.be/mTH5D3Tyb8c?t=98

This is fake news - Albert Bourla got the covid vaccine already.

https://eu.usatoday.com/story/news/factcheck/2021/03/30/fact-check-pfizer-ceo-albert-bourla-received-covid-19-vaccine/7028843002/ (https://eu.usatoday.com/story/news/factcheck/2021/03/30/fact-check-pfizer-ceo-albert-bourla-received-covid-19-vaccine/7028843002/)

Why are so many anti vaxxers falling for fake news? It is just a matter of time until the vaccine will be mandatory in all countries.


Title: Re: Is it safe to us to get Covid -19 Vaccine?
Post by: Ultegra134 on July 19, 2021, 07:39:46 AM

Albert Bourla Pfizer CEO does not take the poision shot, what a surprise
https://youtu.be/mTH5D3Tyb8c?t=98

This is fake news - Albert Bourla got the covid vaccine already.

https://eu.usatoday.com/story/news/factcheck/2021/03/30/fact-check-pfizer-ceo-albert-bourla-received-covid-19-vaccine/7028843002/ (https://eu.usatoday.com/story/news/factcheck/2021/03/30/fact-check-pfizer-ceo-albert-bourla-received-covid-19-vaccine/7028843002/)

Why are so many anti vaxxers falling for fake news? It is just a matter of time until the vaccine will be mandatory in all countries.
Because anti-vaxxers will believe anything which is against vaccines and science, no matter what that is. They think they are debunking whole governments and pharmaceutical companies, using some stupid Youtube videos. It's pathetic to say the least. Even if you mention your debunking source, they'll make a new conspiracy theory that your source is also fake.


Title: Re: Is it safe to us to get Covid -19 Vaccine?
Post by: tvbcof on July 19, 2021, 08:08:55 AM

Because anti-vaxxers will believe anything which is against vaccines and science, no matter what that is. They think they are debunking whole governments and pharmaceutical companies, using some stupid Youtube videos. It's pathetic to say the least. Even if you mention your debunking source, they'll make a new conspiracy theory that your source is also fake.


Lol.  You are a veritable barrel of laughs.  It is a mighty struggle to get idiots like franky1 up to a basic (1980s-ish) high-school level about what DNA is, what a 'gene' is, what a cell nucleus is, etc.  Yet I persevere for the 'greater good' because that's the kind of guy I am.

As for (((them)))tube, it's already highly censored for anything 'anti-vaxx' except for baloney which the vaxx side put up themselves as part of a psychological operation.  They need to invent sock-puppets to fight with since they don't have any real science or arguments.  In short, there is very little to 'debunk' on jootube, and most of us have moved on to other platforms where there is a modicum of free speech.



Title: Re: Is it safe to us to get Covid -19 Vaccine?
Post by: Tash on July 24, 2021, 04:52:38 AM
Dr Peter McCullough MD is a Professor at Texas A & M College of Medicine, President, Cardiorenal Society of America, Editor-in-Chief, Reviews in Cardiovascular Medicine, Senior Associate Editor, American Journal of Cardiology and others. He has written 46 peer-reviewed publications on COVID-19 and is considered among the world’s experts on the topic, testifying in the US Senate Committee on Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs in November 2020, and throughout 2021 in the Texas Senate Committee on Health and Human Services, in the Colorado General Assembly, and in the New Hampshire Senate, concerning many aspects of the pandemic response.

https://www.lewrockwell.com/2021/07/no_author/dr-peter-mccullough-urgent-warning-about-poisonous-jabs/


Title: Re: Is it safe to us to get Covid -19 Vaccine?
Post by: Ebede on July 25, 2021, 04:58:38 AM
Yes of cause, is right to get covid19 vaccine because why we are suffering today is because of the problem Covid19 brought to us and we have to stop it by taking the vaccine, but people is afraid of the vaccine is that it us causing harm to people? Or it's something that is different , because im skeptical over rejection of this, because in my country many are afraid of taking the vaccine for their benefit and is not for money, it's free because government take it upon their self to suppose for the survive of her people.


Title: Re: Is it safe to us to get Covid -19 Vaccine?
Post by: Tash on July 25, 2021, 05:08:04 AM
Yes of cause, is right to get covid19 vaccine because why we are suffering today is because of the problem Covid19 brought to us and we have to stop it by taking the vaccine, but people is afraid of the vaccine is that it us causing harm to people? Or it's something that is different , because im skeptical over rejection of this, because in my country many are afraid of taking the vaccine for their benefit and is not for money, it's free because government take it upon their self to suppose for the survive of her people.

What idiot box aka tv preaches and what some of the most qualified people say is two different things. If something is "free" whoever takes it is the product.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5349296.msg57466608#msg57466608

“Viruses” are just internal natural bodily functions when cells die.


Title: Re: Is it safe to us to get Covid -19 Vaccine?
Post by: Cnut237 on July 25, 2021, 05:48:24 AM
“Viruses” are just internal natural bodily functions when cells die.

You can't possibly believe this. It's a joke, surely? You're suggesting that when viruses spread amongst a population of people, they are not spreading from person to person at all, but rather everyone's dying cells are simultaneously turning into the exact same virus, and it's all happening internally in each case? I must have misunderstood what you mean, because this is absurd.


Title: Re: Is it safe to us to get Covid -19 Vaccine?
Post by: Tash on July 25, 2021, 06:07:24 AM
“Viruses” are just internal natural bodily functions when cells die.

You can't possibly believe this. It's a joke, surely? You're suggesting that when viruses spread amongst a population of people, they are not spreading from person to person at all, but rather everyone's dying cells are simultaneously turning into the exact same virus, and it's all happening internally in each case? I must have misunderstood what you mean, because this is absurd.
This covid Hocus-pocus will bring down germ theory (and much more)  get ready for the “new world order” https://i.ibb.co/7C1TkSM/Untitled-5.jpg (https://imgbb.com/)

TrafalgarSquare
https://twitter.com/GillianMcKeith/status/1418962533898194944

France and other places
https://i.ibb.co/mFRCbVW/Untitled-5.jpg (https://imgbb.com/)



Title: Re: Is it safe to us to get Covid -19 Vaccine?
Post by: Ultegra134 on July 25, 2021, 07:13:18 AM
next august I will get a second vaccine injection which is held for free by the government of my country...

So far the covid vaccine that is injected into my body is quite safe, as long as I don't have heart disease or high blood pressure, the doctor says the vaccine won't be a problem for my body.

Be ready that after you get your second vaccine, in next 24h you would probably have high temperature and would feel bad or completely destroyed. So dont plan anything urgent on the next after your second shot. There is no 100% probability that you would feel terrible after second shot, but most people do.

Basically vaccine is safe, as long as you are healthy and have a good immune system. If not, then there is a chance that second shot will try to stimulate new or sharpen previous your illnesses.
I've also heard about this, regarding the Pfizer vaccine, which I'm getting next Thursday. However, I haven't heard of many cases of high fever, but only mere effects of feeling drowsy or dizzy. I didn't have any side effects with the first dose whatsoever, I'll get back and report to this thread when I receive the 2nd dose.
Received my second dose of the Pfizer vaccine on Thursday. No symptoms whatsoever during the day I received it, however, the next day I experienced some mild fever (approximately 37.8 C) while I was drowsy for most of the day. Hopefully, those symptoms only lasted a day.


Title: Re: Is it safe to us to get Covid -19 Vaccine?
Post by: Natsuu on July 25, 2021, 10:30:50 AM
“Viruses” are just internal natural bodily functions when cells die.

You can't possibly believe this. It's a joke, surely? You're suggesting that when viruses spread amongst a population of people, they are not spreading from person to person at all, but rather everyone's dying cells are simultaneously turning into the exact same virus, and it's all happening internally in each case? I must have misunderstood what you mean, because this is absurd.

Not just that, there are different kind of "dead cells" that causes severe "NATURAL BODILY MAL-FUNCTIONS" that throughout the history, causes death.

A tiny dead skin cells that was washed away is already a "VIRUS" isn't it kekw.


Title: Re: Is it safe to us to get Covid -19 Vaccine?
Post by: virasog on July 25, 2021, 11:01:25 AM
Why are so many anti vaxxers falling for fake news? It is just a matter of time until the vaccine will be mandatory in all countries.

Vaccine is already mandatory for most privilege's in our country although not yet mandatory. However i do hope we have a  safe vaccine by the time it become mandatory.


Yes of cause, is right to get covid19 vaccine because why we are suffering today is because of the problem Covid19 brought to us and we have to stop it by taking the vaccine, but people is afraid of the vaccine is that it us causing harm to people? Or it's something that is different , because im skeptical over rejection of this, because in my country many are afraid of taking the vaccine for their benefit and is not for money, it's free because government take it upon their self to suppose for the survive of her people.

Vaccine can only make you survive better if you ever got hit by the virus, but the who is going to recover the economic loss given by this covid-19.
Everyone is talking about the vaccine , why not government focus on bringing the jobs and business to those who got unemployed in this period  ???


Title: Re: Is it safe to us to get Covid -19 Vaccine?
Post by: Twinkledoe on July 25, 2021, 11:05:48 AM
Why are so many anti vaxxers falling for fake news? It is just a matter of time until the vaccine will be mandatory in all countries.

Vaccine is already mandatory for most privilege's in our country although not yet mandatory. However i do hope we have a  safe vaccine by the time it become mandatory.

Yes of cause, is right to get covid19 vaccine because why we are suffering today is because of the problem Covid19 brought to us and we have to stop it by taking the vaccine, but people is afraid of the vaccine is that it us causing harm to people? Or it's something that is different , because im skeptical over rejection of this, because in my country many are afraid of taking the vaccine for their benefit and is not for money, it's free because government take it upon their self to suppose for the survive of her people.

Vaccine can only make you survive better if you ever got hit by the virus, but the who is going to recover the economic loss given by this covid-19.
Everyone is talking about the vaccine , why not government focus on bringing the jobs and business to those who got unemployed in this period  ???

Right now, governments are focusing in the vaccination of their constituents because they believe that's the only way to contain the spread of this virus. If people will get their immunity, they won't worry about the possible worst effect of this virus. There are already some countries who are only accepting travelers who got their covid vaccine. So the likelihood that it will be mandatory in the future is high.


Title: Re: Is it safe to us to get Covid -19 Vaccine?
Post by: Ultegra134 on July 25, 2021, 11:56:48 AM
Why are so many anti vaxxers falling for fake news? It is just a matter of time until the vaccine will be mandatory in all countries.

Vaccine is already mandatory for most privilege's in our country although not yet mandatory. However i do hope we have a  safe vaccine by the time it become mandatory.

Yes of cause, is right to get covid19 vaccine because why we are suffering today is because of the problem Covid19 brought to us and we have to stop it by taking the vaccine, but people is afraid of the vaccine is that it us causing harm to people? Or it's something that is different , because im skeptical over rejection of this, because in my country many are afraid of taking the vaccine for their benefit and is not for money, it's free because government take it upon their self to suppose for the survive of her people.

Vaccine can only make you survive better if you ever got hit by the virus, but the who is going to recover the economic loss given by this covid-19.
Everyone is talking about the vaccine , why not government focus on bringing the jobs and business to those who got unemployed in this period  ???

Right now, governments are focusing in the vaccination of their constituents because they believe that's the only way to contain the spread of this virus. If people will get their immunity, they won't worry about the possible worst effect of this virus. There are already some countries who are only accepting travelers who got their covid vaccine. So the likelihood that it will be mandatory in the future is high.
The world needs at least 70% immunity to deal with the transmission of the pandemic. This is achieved by having both vaccinations and by people getting infected with the virus. Vaccination though is the fastest and safest way to achieve that.

Unfortunately, not all countries are close to surpass 70% immunity.


Title: Re: Is it safe to us to get Covid -19 Vaccine?
Post by: Saidasun on July 25, 2021, 12:09:19 PM
Why are so many anti vaxxers falling for fake news? It is just a matter of time until the vaccine will be mandatory in all countries.

Vaccine is already mandatory for most privilege's in our country although not yet mandatory. However i do hope we have a  safe vaccine by the time it become mandatory.

Yes of cause, is right to get covid19 vaccine because why we are suffering today is because of the problem Covid19 brought to us and we have to stop it by taking the vaccine, but people is afraid of the vaccine is that it us causing harm to people? Or it's something that is different , because im skeptical over rejection of this, because in my country many are afraid of taking the vaccine for their benefit and is not for money, it's free because government take it upon their self to suppose for the survive of her people.

Vaccine can only make you survive better if you ever got hit by the virus, but the who is going to recover the economic loss given by this covid-19.
Everyone is talking about the vaccine , why not government focus on bringing the jobs and business to those who got unemployed in this period  ???

Right now, governments are focusing in the vaccination of their constituents because they believe that's the only way to contain the spread of this virus. If people will get their immunity, they won't worry about the possible worst effect of this virus. There are already some countries who are only accepting travelers who got their covid vaccine. So the likelihood that it will be mandatory in the future is high.
The world needs at least 70% immunity to deal with the transmission of the pandemic. This is achieved by having both vaccinations and by people getting infected with the virus. Vaccination though is the fastest and safest way to achieve that.

Unfortunately, not all countries are close to surpass 70% immunity.
We will never get there the third world countries which cannot afford it will not be able to achieve herd immunity. Africa and India are struggling and other countries are trying to send aid but just think of how many people live in africa and india and not even half of them have had their first dose the virus will probably mutate and become immune to the vaccine before we vaccinate all them people.


Title: Re: Is it safe to us to get Covid -19 Vaccine?
Post by: sapnu on July 25, 2021, 12:16:23 PM
We all have our freedom upon choosing if we will get vaccinated or not. The news and the statistics will surely show us that it is entirely safe yet they cannot provide much data that would support their claim. If we'll be logical about it, it is too fast for someone or any organization to make a vaccine for a virus that showed up last year. There are a lot of illness that existed yet there are no vaccine that was made for it. Maybe it is just a cover up to lessen or manipulate the people's view towards the virus and its severity in a global scale.


Title: Re: Is it safe to us to get Covid -19 Vaccine?
Post by: Ebede on October 31, 2021, 05:01:13 PM
I hope people have being admitted with the vaccine and they are one to say what they see through from the vaccine, if like five hundred people testify good about the vaccine in your area i think people who are taking it is bound or safe afte the injection, that shows that nothing is wrong about the vaccine that means everyone can take it and survive.


Title: Re: Is it safe to us to get Covid -19 Vaccine?
Post by: Tash on October 31, 2021, 05:08:24 PM
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Is it safe to us to get Covid -19 Vaccine
We know in 10 years time how many illnesses will come from the toxic shot.
Not looking good, lots of fit and healty people have heart issues already.

https://i.ibb.co/KsrBsz8/temp-2.png (https://imgbb.com/)


Title: Re: Is it safe to us to get Covid -19 Vaccine?
Post by: Ems. on November 03, 2021, 09:27:10 AM
Safety to everyone,but need to clarified whose can take vaccine and who cannot because cases involved ,and some reason cannot be prefer to vaccination like ,those who are highpressure there bloodpressure need to monitor before to inject,and some others who are in sickness.


Title: Re: Is it safe to us to get Covid -19 Vaccine?
Post by: Shamm on November 03, 2021, 10:51:02 AM
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Before you've  got vaccinated you have pass all the questions  ask by the doctor .
Your right  if you have an illness  then you are not qualify to be vaccinated cause  it can triggered  so that some people died.


Title: Re: Is it safe to us to get Covid -19 Vaccine?
Post by: hornetsnest on November 03, 2021, 02:07:14 PM
When the rule of law is twisted to make what is unlawful become lawful to protect pharma against the citizen you can be 100% sure you are drawing lots when it comes to vaccine safety. Too late when you get a hot dose 8)

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You can’t sue Pfizer or Moderna if you have severe Covid vaccine side effects. The government likely won't compensate you for damages either.

If you experience severe side effects after getting a Covid vaccine, lawyers say there is basically no one to blame in a U.S. court of law.

The federal government has granted companies like Pfizer and Moderna immunity from liability if something unintentionally goes wrong with their vaccines.

“It is very rare for a blanket immunity law to be passed,” said Rogge Dunn, a Dallas labor and employment attorney. “Pharmaceutical companies typically aren’t offered much liability protection under the law.“

You also can’t sue the Food and Drug Administration for authorizing a vaccine for emergency use, nor can you hold your employer accountable if they mandate inoculation as a condition of employment.


Title: Re: Is it safe to us to get Covid -19 Vaccine?
Post by: Tash on November 03, 2021, 04:06:50 PM
For the mRNA "vaccine" to be called a vaccine it was necessary to change the definition of it.
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A preparation that is used to stimulate the body’s immune response against diseases.
https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/vac-gen/imz-basics.htm
Now Vitaming C and Alex Jones'es herbal tincture have become vaccines with the new meaning.
Yes it is total save to take Vitamin C, take as much as you want you cant overdose. (to much of it you just shit the pants)

Now also a new one on the market, the Indian COVAXIN®
https://twitter.com/WHO/status/1455869992965181441?t=oSvbLU7ZOPyCkdlBxNnPkw&s=19


They literally play russian roulette with the vaccines.
It depends on lot number how save it is. It you got shot check the lot number the see how bad it is.
If lot number not listed, no deaths for that lot, most likely a dummy shot (saline) so you are lucky one.
https://theexpose.uk/2021/10/31/100-percent-of-covid-19-vaccine-deaths-caused-by-just-5-percent-of-the-batches-produced/
https://market-ticker.org/akcs-www?post=244109



Title: Re: Is it safe to us to get Covid -19 Vaccine?
Post by: Myleschetty on November 03, 2021, 07:44:12 PM
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Before you've  got vaccinated you have pass all the questions  ask by the doctor .
Your right  if you have an illness  then you are not qualify to be vaccinated cause  it can triggered  so that some people died.
I have never got the vaccine neither did plan to for I'm perfectly fine with maintaining my good health hygiene, eating a diet, and taking of Vitamin C with D. From what you said, people who are sick are qualified to get the vaccine? Why? What if the sickness was through the Covid-19


Title: Re: Is it safe to us to get Covid -19 Vaccine?
Post by: Gyfts on November 03, 2021, 08:59:10 PM

The world needs at least 70% immunity to deal with the transmission of the pandemic. This is achieved by having both vaccinations and by people getting infected with the virus. Vaccination though is the fastest and safest way to achieve that.

Unfortunately, not all countries are close to surpass 70% immunity.

It's not 70 percent, herd immunity is not even a strategy anymore with how leaky the vaccines are.

It's a personal choice - if you have not already been exposed to Covd and developed antibodies naturally, the vaccine is available. If not, then good luck and rely on your own immune system for when you eventually get it because the vaccine will not save anyone from getting the virus and transmitting it. Meaning, you're at a high chance of getting the virus regardless of the vaccination status of others around you.

Anyone that is selling the idea that we must reach herd immunity, something that's impossible at this point, is just lying to you providing you with false promises.


Title: Re: Is it safe to us to get Covid -19 Vaccine?
Post by: Tash on November 06, 2021, 05:37:34 PM

Reason why the DNA is attacked.
https://youtu.be/Lhx7_LWMMIw
Nothing will enter my orifices or piercing the skin, its as simple as that.

Proctor & Gamble employees, no is no.
https://youtu.be/1JeIjvAKaIk


Title: Re: Is it safe to us to get Covid -19 Vaccine?
Post by: tvbcof on November 06, 2021, 06:49:55 PM
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Proctor & Gamble employees, no is no.
https://youtu.be/1JeIjvAKaIk

Sadly, everyone is falling right into the trap because they don't understand the '4th industrial revolution'.  The Western peeps are fighting central banks which control the money flows.  Loss of profits are not meaningful to these corporations.  They WANT supply issues and shortages.  They WANT the overpriced Western workers gone, and  by VAIDS or by failure to comply makes no difference.  PLENTY of trainable slaves from the 'developing world' to do what jobs robots cannot 5 years or so down the road when things start to stabilize out a bit.

We're just getting started, peeps, and with the unrestricted biological warfare we have only got the briefest of glimpses of what the other side has in their arsenal.  If there is not some very significant high level of defection on the other side, I don't see things going well.  At all.



Title: Re: Is it safe to us to get Covid -19 Vaccine?
Post by: Tash on November 06, 2021, 07:16:33 PM
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Proctor & Gamble employees, no is no.
https://youtu.be/1JeIjvAKaIk

Sadly, everyone is falling right into the trap because they don't understand the '4th industrial revolution'.  The Western peeps are fighting central banks which control the money flows.  Loss of profits are not meaningful to these corporations.  They WANT supply issues and shortages.  They WANT the overpriced Western workers gone, and  by VAIDS or by failure to comply makes no difference.  PLENTY of trainable slaves from the 'developing world' to do what jobs robots cannot 5 years or so down the road when things start to stabilize out a bit.

We're just getting started, peeps, and with the unrestricted biological warfare we have only got the briefest of glimpses of what the other side has in their arsenal.  If there is not some very significant high level of defection on the other side, I don't see things going well.  At all.


Break the large corporation up, smash 'em to pieces. Way to much power in the hands of a few, 38 to be precise.


Title: Re: Is it safe to us to get Covid -19 Vaccine?
Post by: tvbcof on November 06, 2021, 07:56:53 PM
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Proctor & Gamble employees, no is no.
https://youtu.be/1JeIjvAKaIk

Sadly, everyone is falling right into the trap because they don't understand the '4th industrial revolution'.  The Western peeps are fighting central banks which control the money flows.  Loss of profits are not meaningful to these corporations.  They WANT supply issues and shortages.  They WANT the overpriced Western workers gone, and  by VAIDS or by failure to comply makes no difference.  PLENTY of trainable slaves from the 'developing world' to do what jobs robots cannot 5 years or so down the road when things start to stabilize out a bit.

We're just getting started, peeps, and with the unrestricted biological warfare we have only got the briefest of glimpses of what the other side has in their arsenal.  If there is not some very significant high level of defection on the other side, I don't see things going well.  At all.

Break the large corporation up, smash 'em to pieces. Way to much power in the hands of a few, 38 to be precise.

It might still work to a degree to just 'go berserk' and destroy everything (before the existing political apparatus get's their chance to do the same anyway) and string everyone up who's thought to be involved in the covaids operation.  Wouldn't be pretty, but neither is the trajectory we are on.

Slightly more gentle, and possibly effective alternative/augmentation, would just have a 'people's court' and with findings of coviads operation's damages equal to all value owned by corporations, governments, reserves, etc.  As a method of retrieving damages, nullify all fiat currencies and only use crypto-currencies for commerce.  Instantiate as many crypto-currencies as necessary to provide the needed liquidity, and let the markets sort out the different values.



Title: Re: Is it safe to us to get Covid -19 Vaccine?
Post by: Hispo on November 07, 2021, 02:49:36 AM
-snip-

I, for one, welcome our new Kentucky Fried Chicken overlords


Title: Re: Is it safe to us to get Covid -19 Vaccine?
Post by: Tash on November 07, 2021, 06:47:08 AM
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Slightly more gentle, and possibly effective alternative/augmentation, would just have a 'people's court' and with findings of coviads operation's damages equal to all value owned by corporations, governments, reserves, etc.  As a method of retrieving damages, nullify all fiat currencies and only use crypto-currencies for commerce.  Instantiate as many crypto-currencies as necessary to provide the needed liquidity, and let the markets sort out the different values.


Law of the Land.
Each human is, by free will, a sovereign nation and self-governing.
Inhabitants join with others, by free will choice, to form governing frameworks for human communities that align with collective and individual customs. Promoting Govenment violates natural law.
Accepting payment for service as judge violates natural law.
The use of vaccines violates natural law.

https://i.ibb.co/fHsTC2W/temp.jpg (https://imgbb.com/)


Obvious something was the trigger for it, vaccinated better stay away from such places....
https://twitter.com/i/status/1457146310277177356
horror
https://www.tiktok.com/@brook333lliott/video/7027575288242408710?sender_device=pc&sender_web_id=7027888177687840261&is_from_webapp=v1&is_copy_url=0


Title: Re: Is it safe to us to get Covid -19 Vaccine?
Post by: Storytellers on November 23, 2021, 11:07:29 AM
My beliefs about the vaccination are that it can lead to serious health conditions and troubles.Ive had multiple examples of that happening. Statisticaly i know that some of the types of the product (different manufacturers of the vaccine) helped for most of the people throughout the world but still , i have my own way of thinking and im not sure if i will vaccinate (at least not in the near future).I dont think everyone SHOULD vaccinate theirselves, we still have a choice.
thanks


Title: Re: Is it safe to us to get Covid -19 Vaccine?
Post by: Tash on November 23, 2021, 12:13:36 PM
It's happening more and more people who are double vaccinated refuse the third dose. Vaccinated pass out, fall of scaffolding have bizarre traffic   accidents, all kinds of cancers, strokes, heart attacks you name it they have it. The globalist dream of 3 shots per year every year is crumbling.
https://i.ibb.co/n15Qg2p/Untitled.jpg (https://ibb.co/jw136Kt)


Title: Re: Is it safe to us to get Covid -19 Vaccine?
Post by: tvbcof on November 23, 2021, 12:33:07 PM
It's happening more and more people who are double vaccinated refuse the third dose. Vaccinated pass out, fall of scaffolding have bizarre traffic   accidents, all kinds of cancers, strokes, heart attacks you name it they have it. The globalist dream of 3 shots per year every year is crumbling.
https://i.ibb.co/n15Qg2p/Untitled.jpg (https://ibb.co/jw136Kt)

More like coming into focus.  Once the new ID's coupled with 'health status' are in place, they can do anything they want.  Anyone who doesn't comply will have their card turned off making living impossible for all but a tiny minority of people.

I figure they will go for a quarterly battery of injections, but also pills that people must take regularly.  Possibly every day.  Surely most people remember the myriad of stories prior to the plandemic about 'smart pills (https://impacx.io/blog/smart-pills-what-are-these-edible-digital-pills/)' with a cell phone app being able to ensure consumption.  Right?  As usual, these 'scientific futurism' stories die off when they are getting ready to be rolled out.  Of course these 'smart pills' were just to help forgetful oldsters take their meds and nothing more than that.  Yeah.

Note that the 'leadership' is ga-ga about 'the hive'...and as usual it rubs off on their cult followers.  Silicon Valley is a prime specific example in this case.  They love the idea of a fertile 'queen bee' managing a vast swarm of mindless drones who work diligently for a few weeks then die off quickly when their bodies are worn out.

For those who don't know, the signaling for hive insects is chemical.  Electromagnetics are great, but have limitations.  Similarly psychological and psycho/social methods.  Some people are just naturally more resistant than others, and parental involvement in child-rearing complicates things even more.  A good system will combine all of these control structures, and pharmakia is among the most potent.



Title: Re: Is it safe to us to get Covid -19 Vaccine?
Post by: Tash on November 24, 2021, 07:58:48 AM
Totally save the tel-lie-vision will tell you so     86 stillbirths in 6 months in fully vaccinated mothers in Waterloo, Ontario
https://twitter.com/i/status/1463130218663583753

Just the hell stay away from number 3 (or #2)
https://truth11.com/2021/11/23/head-nurse-went-in-front-of-the-cameras-and-took-out-the-bottles-of-vaccines-she-showed-people-the-codes-on-the-bottles-each-labeled-1-2-or-3-and-then-explained-the-meaning-of-the-codes-number-1/
or https://www.bitchute.com/video/WEnEy0jEjhDJ/?fbclid=IwAR12kzKj-0zcY35G64oxx08YnmLoVXlXYljAOkCXrbOiPkKhNCyJrzeoqNI
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Yesterday a great scandal broke out in Slovenia, and today all of Slovenia is talking about vaccinations. The head nurse of the University Medical Center, a clinical center in Ljubljana, which deals with the reception of bottles and manages everything, gave up, went in front of the cameras and took out the bottles of vaccines. She showed people the codes on the bottles, each labeled 1, 2 or 3, and then explained the meaning of the codes. Number 1 is placebo, saline. Number 2 is the classic RNA bottle. Number 3 is the RNA stick containing the onc gene, related to adenovirus, which contributes to the development of cancer. The number 3 says that people who get them will have soft tissue cancer within 2 years. She says that she personally witnessed the vaccinations of all politicians and tycoons, and they all received preparation # 1.


https://world-signals.com/news/2021/11/23/head-nurse-in-slovenia-vials-of-vaccines-1-2-3-mean-who-will-live-and-who-will-die/
 Janez Poklukar = Health Minister,  thumb-up for him https://i.ibb.co/RyXwXtK/Untitled.jpg (https://imgbb.com/)
https://i.ibb.co/NWHFHWj/Untitled.jpg (https://ibb.co/5sf1fs8)

What version did you select?
Number 1 the 100% does not work
Number 2 the guinea pig variant
Number 3 the hard core cancer version


Title: Re: Is it safe to us to get Covid -19 Vaccine?
Post by: Gosgosking on November 25, 2021, 06:43:42 AM
It's safe to get the vaccine, the vaccine has been tested before it is required to be use by humanity. If truly the vaccine kills it won't be recommended for people. It is very sad to hear about people spread irrelevant concerning the vaccine .


Title: Re: Is it safe to us to get Covid -19 Vaccine?
Post by: Newlifebtc on November 25, 2021, 09:00:28 AM
It's safe to get the vaccine, the vaccine has been tested before it is required to be use by humanity. If truly the vaccine kills it won't be recommended for people. It is very sad to hear about people spread irrelevant concerning the vaccine .
Some vaccines can be recommended but they have negative if effects to the body we can't conclude that if vaccine is not good it won't have be recommended, some hospital's today is using fake drugs for treatment their patients and most especially government hospitals but private hospital do take their time to bring original from right source to treat their patients, so it base on individual understanding of treating people.


Title: Re: Is it safe to us to get Covid -19 Vaccine?
Post by: Trading on December 08, 2021, 10:31:18 PM
Vaccines and antibiotics are the major inventions on human history.

We can't just assume that all of them are 100% safe.

Nonetheless, these SARS-CoV-2 vaccines were now taken by more than a billion people.

To keep raising absurd questions just because a tiny number of very sick or old people die after taken one of them is completely irrational. Those persons would die from a simple cold, because of how sick they already were.

That a big part of Americans still believe on histories about the «dangers» of these vaccines only shows that a part of the american mass media are destroying the truth and trust on scientific and political institutions. Just for political reasons.

Even the American Democracy is at risk because of this.


Title: Re: Is it safe to us to get Covid -19 Vaccine?
Post by: Tash on December 09, 2021, 09:50:28 AM
Dr. Peter McCullough and Bret Weinstein on COVID
https://youtu.be/-zg1j7Zquoc
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Dr. Peter McCullough MD is a Professor at Texas A & M College of Medicine, President, Cardiorenal Society of America, Editor-in-Chief, Reviews in Cardiovascular Medicine, Senior Associate Editor, American Journal of Cardiology and others. He has written 46 peer-reviewed publications

The world not only for America
https://i.ibb.co/w44vBPh/Untitled1.jpg (https://imgbb.com/)


Title: Re: Is it safe to us to get Covid -19 Vaccine?
Post by: BADecker on December 12, 2021, 12:26:39 AM
Is it safe to us to get Covid -19 Vaccine?


Much safer to get Covid-19 the illness.



8)


Title: Re: Is it safe to us to get Covid -19 Vaccine?
Post by: Tash on December 12, 2021, 10:37:14 AM
Is it safe to us to get Covid -19 Vaccine?


Much safer to get Covid-19 the illness.



8)
Where can someone get it? It be handy at times.



https://i.ibb.co/cCWFBwH/Untitled1.jpg (https://imgbb.com/)


Title: Re: Is it safe to us to get Covid -19 Vaccine?
Post by: Tash on December 13, 2021, 12:28:42 PM
60,000 scientists call for an end to mass vaccination
https://frenchdailynews.com/society/3732-60000-scientists-call-for-an-end-to-mass-vaccination


Title: Re: Is it safe to us to get Covid -19 Vaccine?
Post by: stadus on December 13, 2021, 01:16:32 PM
60,000 scientists call for an end to mass vaccination
https://frenchdailynews.com/society/3732-60000-scientists-call-for-an-end-to-mass-vaccination

They are not heard because mass vaccination is still ongoing, in fact, in our country, only a small percentage of the total population only are not vaccinated, mostly children because there's no vaccine available for children yet, or it's safe to say it has not arrived.


Title: Re: Is it safe to us to get Covid -19 Vaccine?
Post by: tvbcof on December 13, 2021, 01:45:04 PM
60,000 scientists call for an end to mass vaccination
https://frenchdailynews.com/society/3732-60000-scientists-call-for-an-end-to-mass-vaccination

Probably half of those have finally figured out that they are getting set up by the banksters to take the fall, and could find themselves swinging from a rope (literally) unless they make a little bit of token noise and get it documented.

I'll bet that more than a few scientifically literate people harbor a sort of a semi-secret (and semi-subconscious) fascination to see what would happen to the human gene pool if those who willingly took the depop-shot exited stage left (along with the people who bet on the rapture and what-not.)  At least most of this class of peeps can conceptualize the possibilities in a somewhat numerically literate form.  I have to admit that I am one of these.  Not that I would choose for it to go down this way, and I would/will/do fight against it for a variety of reasons, but it indeed would/will be an interesting experiment.  And one with some possible up-sides...should be harder for con-men to take over the role of authority figures at least.



Title: Re: Is it safe to us to get Covid -19 Vaccine?
Post by: Tash on December 13, 2021, 02:26:54 PM
The date and what the say, just wow.
Obviously it is hard to convince a countriy to get flu vaccine if there was never anyone sick with it in the country, like African countries.
Maybe we orchestrate some other circus.
https://seed132.bitchute.com/HlyeDvlqcVJm/zNCYFYergHqB.mp4


https://i.ibb.co/nsmJzRM/Unt4.jpg (https://imgbb.com/)


Title: Re: Is it safe to us to get Covid -19 Vaccine?
Post by: Lucius on December 13, 2021, 02:34:44 PM
I do not want to go into any conspiracy theories, we all know very well that media propaganda is so strong that few alternative opinions can even penetrate the general public. Anyone who tries to ask a relevant question in any way is exposed to the media lynching and often loses his job because he dares to ask legitimate questions.

A few months ago, Croatian scientist from the prestigious Ruder Boskovic Institute published his research on the impact of mRNA vaccines, which no one has disputed so far - and the first copy of the research was taken over by Pfizer a few months ago. Of course, this is not an invitation to anyone not to get vaccinated or something like that - but to try to hear the other side.

Original link : https://narod.hr/koronavirus/dr-rer-nat-tomislav-domazet-loso-mrna-cjepiva-zasto-se-ignorira-biologija-retropozicije

Translated into English by Google Translator : Link (https://narod-hr.translate.goog/koronavirus/dr-rer-nat-tomislav-domazet-loso-mrna-cjepiva-zasto-se-ignorira-biologija-retropozicije?_x_tr_sl=hr&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=hr)


Title: Re: Is it safe to us to get Covid -19 Vaccine?
Post by: Tash on December 13, 2021, 05:35:17 PM

Dr. Vernon Coleman: Here’s Why Most of the Jabbed Will Die Early
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To be honest, anyone who still accepts one of these jabs should be considered suicidal or certified insane.
https://bnt-cdn.b-cdn.net/upload/videos/2021/12/gwayc9gICm4zjfkaXVYy_11_d12e6ffef5900466546f972421add1b9_video_480p_converted.mp
Very much in line with the scientists in my sig


Title: Re: Is it safe to us to get Covid -19 Vaccine?
Post by: Slow death on December 13, 2021, 09:43:55 PM
this thread is turning into a place where even vaccines will have legs and will flee from reading so many theories about how dangerous they can be. I still believe in vaccines and if people are talking about taking the third dose so that people take the third dose and not create a stir


Dr. Vernon Coleman: Here’s Why Most of the Jabbed Will Die Early
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To be honest, anyone who still accepts one of these jabs should be considered suicidal or certified insane.
https://bnt-cdn.b-cdn.net/upload/videos/2021/12/gwayc9gICm4zjfkaXVYy_11_d12e6ffef5900466546f972421add1b9_video_480p_converted.mp
Very much in line with the scientists in my sig

 ;D



Title: Re: Is it safe to us to get Covid -19 Vaccine?
Post by: Trojane on December 13, 2021, 10:29:29 PM
I thought covid was just a designed plan by the Chinese? If yeqs as confirmed then the should have been a plan B incase of any revolution , so why is it so difficult that they haven't been able to come up with a legible cure to these mess that has no side effects on the affected people?
People are complaining that metallic substances attract to their skin afterwards... confusion everywhere


Title: Re: Is it safe to us to get Covid -19 Vaccine?
Post by: Tash on December 15, 2021, 08:32:52 AM
Save and effective
https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/baby-of-fully-vaccinated-mom-dies-after-being-born-bleeding-from-mouth-nose-vaers-report/?source=patrick.net

https://i.ibb.co/P1XNtKr/Unt3.jpg (https://imgbb.com/)


Title: Re: Is it safe to us to get Covid -19 Vaccine?
Post by: hornetsnest on December 20, 2021, 11:49:37 PM
Covid is a 600 trillion dollar derivitaves market restructure with every stakeholder getting a piece of the new pie.


Title: Re: Is it safe to us to get Covid -19 Vaccine?
Post by: voos on December 21, 2021, 02:27:23 AM
I am triple vaccinated.

One in each arm.

That's right, a third arm grew right after the second dose.


Title: Re: Is it safe to us to get Covid -19 Vaccine?
Post by: Tash on December 21, 2021, 07:53:28 AM

Now we’re seeing increased Covid cases and deaths among the fully vaccinated.

All-cause mortality in US increasing fast.
https://www.usmortality.com/excess-absolute

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Title: Re: Is it safe to us to get Covid -19 Vaccine?
Post by: hornetsnest on December 21, 2021, 01:08:25 PM

Now we’re seeing increased Covid cases and deaths among the fully vaccinated.

All-cause mortality in US increasing fast.
https://www.usmortality.com/excess-absolute

https://i.ibb.co/3Tntdvc/Untitled1.jpg (https://imgbb.com/)

Probably why findings are buried for decades. When it's released further down line to the next generation it might get small headline on the 3rd page of a tabloid but the plebs will too busy walking their digital dog through some rainbow on the metaverse to worry about such things.


Title: Re: Is it safe to us to get Covid -19 Vaccine?
Post by: bakasabo on December 21, 2021, 04:05:14 PM
Now we’re seeing increased Covid cases and deaths among the fully vaccinated.

It will be world disaster, if it turns out that vaccine only makes things worse. Will it be possible file a claim against vaccine production companies? Is it even possible or worth doing to do such thing? I mean it will be million cases, and as usually, companies wont have money to cover them all.

This is getting ridiculous. Our country introduced vaccine certificate expiry date, booster looks like is a must right now, and we do not accept some vaccines at all (for example if you have a Johnson & Johnson vaccine certificate, you are not allowed to visit out country). Or more ridiculous, we do not accept foreigners from vaccine that is not approved with our government. I think only people with Pfizer can visit us, while our economy is strongly dependable from abroad capital and tourists.


Title: Re: Is it safe to us to get Covid -19 Vaccine?
Post by: Jet Cash on December 21, 2021, 04:38:48 PM
I understand that the WHO states that there have been no deaths from Omicron.. Many thousand have died and been crippled  by the injections described as Vaccines. You decide which is the safest.

I'm 79, and I haven't been vaccinated fot over 70 years, and I don't suffer from 'flu or viruses.


Title: Re: Is it safe to us to get Covid -19 Vaccine?
Post by: franky1 on December 21, 2021, 07:40:46 PM
oh jetty, you seem to devolve more as time passes by.

the virus causes more injuries and death. its that simple

the number of people that died due to omicron is not zero.
the reason its low so far, is that its only really been spreading in many countries for a few weeks so all those in hospital with it, or just starting to get symptoms where they might need to go to hospital. whereby its likely that some will eventually pass away from it, have yet to pass away

its like snake poison that can kill in 6 hours. there is no point shouting out that because you think no one has died in 3 hours that snake poison doesnt kill. what you are forgetting is the thousands of people being taken to hospital in pain and suffering, yet to die

as for not caring. even if you think you will be fine.. if you get it this week. you then have to self isolate  for 10 days from a positive test. meaning if u get the test results wednesday+, then you cant meet anyone at all from wednesday until new years day. meaning christmas and new years is cancelled for you. and anyone you infect

so atleast dont ruin christmas for yourself and other by getting it/spreading it.


Title: Re: Is it safe to us to get Covid -19 Vaccine?
Post by: Tash on January 11, 2022, 08:17:12 PM

Session 86 from the Corona investigative committee Dr.-Lee-Merritt
https://odysee.com/@StopTheCrime:d/Ashkenazi-Jews-not-affected-by-mass-sterilization-through-covid-vaccines---Dr.-Lee-Merritt:6

from the same session Mike Yeadon (Former vice-president of respiratory research division, Pfizer)
https://odysee.com/@Corona-Investigative-Committee:5/Mike-Session-86-en:0


Title: Re: Is it safe to us to get Covid -19 Vaccine?
Post by: Cnut237 on January 14, 2022, 01:53:03 PM
I'm 79, and I haven't been vaccinated fot over 70 years, and I don't suffer from 'flu or viruses.

From previous posts, it sounds like you have a commendably healthy lifestyle. But a data point of one single individual person cannot be used to identify a pattern.
We would expect people who live healthily to be less susceptible to serious Covid symptoms than those who live less healthily, but that certainly doesn't mean that everyone who lives healthily will not get severe symptoms.

I am a person.
I woke up at 6AM this morning.
Therefore all people woke up at 6AM this morning?


Title: Re: Is it safe to us to get Covid -19 Vaccine?
Post by: AjithBtc on January 16, 2022, 09:55:40 PM
I understand that the WHO states that there have been no deaths from Omicron.. Many thousand have died and been crippled  by the injections described as Vaccines. You decide which is the safest.

I'm 79, and I haven't been vaccinated fot over 70 years, and I don't suffer from 'flu or viruses.
There are people in my country that haven't got vaccinated at your age and still leads a healthy life. Same time there are young people who have died out of COVID-19 without any symptoms and they weren't vaccinated. On this note, it isn't about the vaccine. It is all about the healthy life style one has maintained and upto the decision of God. Even I lost my father, I never expected this to happen. All of the sudden he felt sick, admitted to hospital. He is positive and was hospitalized for a week and for last two days he was with ventilator support. Myself and father was in the same Home, he's positive and myself tested negative. Once after his death I took the vaccine, not on fear but as a precaution.


Title: Re: Is it safe to us to get Covid -19 Vaccine?
Post by: Tash on January 17, 2022, 06:47:55 AM
I understand that the WHO states that there have been no deaths from Omicron.. Many thousand have died and been crippled  by the injections described as Vaccines. You decide which is the safest.

I'm 79, and I haven't been vaccinated fot over 70 years, and I don't suffer from 'flu or viruses.
There are people in my country that haven't got vaccinated at your age and still leads a healthy life. Same time there are young people who have died out of COVID-19 without any symptoms and they weren't vaccinated. On this note, it isn't about the vaccine. It is all about the healthy life style one has maintained and upto the decision of God. Even I lost my father, I never expected this to happen. All of the sudden he felt sick, admitted to hospital. He is positive and was hospitalized for a week and for last two days he was with ventilator support. Myself and father was in the same Home, he's positive and myself tested negative. Once after his death I took the vaccine, not on fear but as a precaution.

Ventilator have a 90% success kill rate, in some places hospitals receive large sums for every person put on ventilator.
PCR test is not made to find any virus, it's not what it is made for or can do, inventor made it very clear.
As for the toxic injections some call "vaccine", professional opinion can be found in sig.

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Title: Re: Is it safe to us to get Covid -19 Vaccine?
Post by: PreciousH on January 17, 2022, 11:57:55 AM
I think vaccines are truly safe over the decades. Yes, it is safe to get COVID-19 vaccine because they save many people from getting infected. I also take 2 doses of vaccine. Now I am safe.


Title: Re: Is it safe to us to get Covid -19 Vaccine?
Post by: Tash on January 17, 2022, 01:35:13 PM
Same, same again and again, this time tattoo artists message to the world
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The skin no longer defends itself.
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Title: Re: Is it safe to us to get Covid -19 Vaccine?
Post by: tvbcof on February 09, 2022, 03:49:50 PM

Heather McDonald (who I'd never hear of):

  https://www.bitchute.com/video/uuwgcrFZw5m5/ (https://www.bitchute.com/video/uuwgcrFZw5m5/)

When I first saw it, I wrote it off immediately as phony and thought no more about it.  Now it seems that it is being reported by the MSM as real, so I went to look again.  Looks even more phony in this vid to me.  People don't shuffle their feet when the pass out (in my non-medical experience.)  The look on her face was over-acted, and the soundtrack has a thump in the wrong place for a skull fracture.

I'm 95% sure this is a psy-op.  Not sure what it is meant to would accomplish exactly.  Washed up old has-been actors are exactly the kind of people who are desperate enough to play these roles.  They generally use Epstein/Maxwell type operations for the younger folks like Justin Trudeau-Castro to play Prime Ministers and such.



Title: Re: Is it safe to us to get Covid -19 Vaccine?
Post by: CryptoBuds on February 10, 2022, 05:46:14 PM
I'm 79, and I haven't been vaccinated fot over 70 years, and I don't suffer from 'flu or viruses.

From previous posts, it sounds like you have a commendably healthy lifestyle. But a data point of one single individual person cannot be used to identify a pattern.
We would expect people who live healthily to be less susceptible to serious Covid symptoms than those who live less healthily, but that certainly doesn't mean that everyone who lives healthily will not get severe symptoms.

I am a person.
I woke up at 6AM this morning.
Therefore all people woke up at 6AM this morning?
^^
The main thing is about the vaccine- Whether I should get vaccinated or whether the vaccine is safe.

@Jet Cash, You have not been vaccinated and your claim is that you have been healthy for so many years without flu and coronavirus vaccine. Glad to know that you are a very lucky and enough healthy person.
 
@Cnut237, Do you think people are surviving because of vaccination? It's true that coronavirus has failed to infect healthy people as much as others. But since we have all been vaccinated, who can say that in the future there will be no disability in our body because of this vaccine?


Title: Re: Is it safe to us to get Covid -19 Vaccine?
Post by: Cnut237 on February 10, 2022, 07:13:52 PM
@Cnut237, Do you think people are surviving because of vaccination?

Yes. And I don't just think it, I know it, because I have looked at the data.

https://i.imgur.com/NPhU31y.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/HBz45ve.jpg

https://ourworldindata.org/covid-deaths-by-vaccination



who can say that in the future there will be no disability in our body because of this vaccine?
Our predictions of the future are based on current knowledge. There is nothing to suggest that there will be problems in the future. Meanwhile, millions of lives have been saved due to the vaccine. Take your pick.
Do you ever get into a plane or a car? Some people have died in planes and cars. If you had to get in a plane, would you choose a) a plane run by a reputable airline that has been through a rigorous and fully-documented testing process, or b) a plane some random drunk guy has built himself from spare parts and has never been off the ground before, or c) forget planes because nothing can be 100% guaranteed, and instead take the risk of getting to your destination some other way, maybe swimming across the ocean yourself, even though all the data say that the plane in option 'a' is your safest bet?


Title: Re: Is it safe to us to get Covid -19 Vaccine?
Post by: OgNasty on February 10, 2022, 09:37:15 PM
Nothing in this world is really safe to be totally honest.  There is no extending life, there is only reducing the rate at which you die.  Given this perspective, of course the vaccine isn't "safe" because that would be impossible.  Is it a safer alternative then getting covid, in some scenarios it has been proven to be.  However, I would argue that not getting the vaccine is safer than getting the vaccine if we were living in a vacuum.  I don't think that can be debated as it is a fact.  Bottom line, if you're scared of covid or you feel like having the flu is a danger to others, get the vaccine if you want.  If you don't want to get it, then don't.  Personal choice is about the only thing you truly have in the world, don't sacrifice it to fit into some grand plan for society. 


Title: Re: Is it safe to us to get Covid -19 Vaccine?
Post by: Cnut237 on February 11, 2022, 01:13:51 PM
Personal choice is about the only thing you truly have in the world, don't sacrifice it to fit into some grand plan for society.  

It's difficult though, isn't it? If you as an individual live within a society, then you gain the benefits of living within that society, but you also have a responsibility towards maintaining its well-being. I'm not convinced that vaccination can be framed as an individual liberty issue.

I think I made the distinction in some other thread about the difference between driving without a seat-belt and driving whilst drunk (assuming in both scenarios that you have no passengers).
Driving without a seat-belt means you are taking a personal risk, and might come to harm, but you're not likely to harm others.
Driving whilst drunk means you are taking a personal risk, and might come to harm, and you are more likely to hurt others.

Not taking the vaccine when offered is more similar to driving drunk than it is to driving without a belt. If you live within a society with other road-users, you can't say "driving whilst drunk is a personal liberty issue".


Title: Re: Is it safe to us to get Covid -19 Vaccine?
Post by: Tash on February 11, 2022, 02:36:15 PM
This scamdemic with its promoters like "Cnut237 " is nearing it's end.
“The only means to fight the plague is honesty.” (Albert Camus, 1947)
https://www.bitchute.com/video/MQycm0hAnNjZ/

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Title: Re: Is it safe to us to get Covid -19 Vaccine?
Post by: hornetsnest on February 11, 2022, 05:07:44 PM
Personal choice is about the only thing you truly have in the world, don't sacrifice it to fit into some grand plan for society.  

It's difficult though, isn't it? If you as an individual live within a society, then you gain the benefits of living within that society, but you also have a responsibility towards maintaining its well-being. I'm not convinced that vaccination can be framed as an individual liberty issue.

I think I made the distinction in some other thread about the difference between driving without a seat-belt and driving whilst drunk (assuming in both scenarios that you have no passengers).
Driving without a seat-belt means you are taking a personal risk, and might come to harm, but you're not likely to harm others.
Driving whilst drunk means you are taking a personal risk, and might come to harm, and you are more likely to hurt others.

Not taking the vaccine when offered is more similar to driving drunk than it is to driving without a belt. If you live within a society with other road-users, you can't say "driving whilst drunk is a personal liberty issue".


If you are a taxpayer you are entitled to the goods and services your tax goes to fund so matter if you are vaxxed or not and such goods and services should never be made unavailable to you as a tax payer. Society if full of grifters and layabouts who want the government to do everything for them including think and make decisions for them at the expense of those who do all for themselves and like to think and make independent decisions for themselves while still paying for the grifters to get free stuff from the government. The common good for society argument is moot when the tyranny of the majority gets to force the minority to comply against their will or vise versa.


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Not taking the vaccine when offered is more similar to driving drunk than it is to driving without a belt. If you live within a society with other road-users, you can't say "driving whilst drunk is a personal liberty issue".

So basically what this point states is that if you refuse to take an experimental drug or vaccine you should not drive and only those who take experimental drugs or vaccines should be on the road. That's a ridiculous comparison/example to make.



Title: Re: Is it safe to us to get Covid -19 Vaccine?
Post by: Gyfts on February 11, 2022, 07:10:38 PM
The common good for society argument is moot when the tyranny of the majority gets to force the minority to comply against their will or vise versa.

Isn't it amazing how much power can be delegated to the government, as long as it's sold in the name of safety? People have lost their mind with COVID and will readily give up any and all civil liberties as long as they feel safe, regardless if whether government can actually protect them or not. I wouldn't be so oppose to letting hypochondriacs live the way they want to live, except for the fact they wish to dictate how others should live, and demand government enforce those wishes. Can't do that.


Title: Re: Is it safe to us to get Covid -19 Vaccine?
Post by: Cnut237 on February 12, 2022, 01:40:43 PM
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Not taking the vaccine when offered is more similar to driving drunk than it is to driving without a belt. If you live within a society with other road-users, you can't say "driving whilst drunk is a personal liberty issue".
So basically what this point states is that if you refuse to take an experimental drug or vaccine you should not drive and only those who take experimental drugs or vaccines should be on the road. That's a ridiculous comparison/example to make.
Yes, that is quite a ridiculous point, I don't see why you're making it. Where do experimental drugs come into it? Not sure where driving comes into it, either. I was making an analogy (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5363570.msg58137636#msg58137636).



The common good for society argument is moot when the tyranny of the majority gets to force the minority to comply against their will or vise versa.
"The tyranny of the majority"... a.k.a. democracy? Let me guess, it's only "tyranny of the majority" when you find yourself in the minority, and at other times you're fine with it?
Some guy wants to exercise his freedom to go into a public place with a gun and shoot random people. But the tyranny of the majority says he can't do that. Outrageous!  ::)



Isn't it amazing how much power can be delegated to the government, as long as it's sold in the name of safety?
You might be surprised that I agree with this point. We saw it in the aftermath of 9/11, too, with for example the dramatic increase in surveillance from the Patriot Act, in the name of 'security'. A government (or company) will generally exploit any advantage it is given, and will generally attempt to frame it as something that is for the public good.
But this doesn't mean that everything is a lie. It doesn't mean that there isn't a global pandemic, and a respiratory virus that has killed millions, and hugely effective vaccines that have already saved millions of lives. Will governments try to exploit the situation to further their own ends? Sure, I'd be surprised if they didn't. Will some drug companies make huge profits? Again, yes, I'd be surprised if they didn't. But it doesn't mean the whole situation is artificial and engineered, it doesn't mean that vaccines are useless or not needed.


Title: Re: Is it safe to us to get Covid -19 Vaccine?
Post by: rby on February 14, 2022, 06:47:02 PM
I think vaccines are truly safe over the decades. Yes, it is safe to get COVID-19 vaccine because they save many people from getting infected. I also take 2 doses of vaccine. Now I am safe.
It is good to be vaccinated, vaccines are not actually treatments to viruses or neither are they remedy to plague. Vaccines only boost the immune system of the vaccinated so that the system can be able to fight the virus. That is to say that even if you are vaccinated, you will still need to observe the Covid-19 rules to save yourself.


Title: Re: Is it safe to us to get Covid -19 Vaccine?
Post by: Tash on February 15, 2022, 03:47:00 PM
I think vaccines are truly safe over the decades. Yes, it is safe to get COVID-19 vaccine because they save many people from getting infected. I also take 2 doses of vaccine. Now I am safe.
It is good to be vaccinated, vaccines are not actually treatments to viruses or neither are they remedy to plague. Vaccines only boost the immune system of the vaccinated so that the system can be able to fight the virus. That is to say that even if you are vaccinated, you will still need to observe the Covid-19 rules to save yourself.

Thanks for the laughter.
The ingredients of the drug dealer around the corner are better known, than the toxic load shot with unknown long term effects.


Title: Re: Is it safe to us to get Covid -19 Vaccine?
Post by: hornetsnest on February 16, 2022, 02:20:06 PM
I wouldn't be so oppose to letting hypochondriacs live the way they want to live, except for the fact they wish to dictate how others should live, and demand government enforce those wishes

Exactly. No minority nor majority should infringe upon the constitutional rights of the individual in a society. "Emergency powers" should only be used to mobilize resources in a state of emergency while compensating those affected by the use of their private property and resources during the course of such emergency. Injecting experimental drugs through coercion,manipulation,threats etc is unlawful and those involved in such exercises should always face justice once their regime of terror is brought to an end.



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Three Elements of Common Good (1906-1910)

The common good is the sum total of those social conditions which allow groups and persons to gain their goals more easily. The common good requires three elements:

Respect for the person - Public authorities must respect the fundamental and inalienable rights of the human person. Government must guarantee the right of persons to act in accordance with their conscience.

Social well-being - Authority must promote the development of the person and of the group. Authority must arbitrate between various particular interests and make the necessities for human life (food, clothing, establishing a family, etc.) accessible to all.

Peace - Authority must establish the peace of a just order by morally acceptable means. This is the basis for legitimate personal and collective defense.

In the political community the common good is best realized. The state must promote the good of its citizens and of intermediate bodies.


Title: Re: Is it safe to us to get Covid -19 Vaccine?
Post by: hornetsnest on February 16, 2022, 02:34:20 PM
Yes, that is quite a ridiculous point, I don't see why you're making it. Where do experimental drugs come into it? Not sure where driving comes into it, either. I was making an analogy (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5363570.msg58137636#msg58137636).

Vaccine safety data has been witheld so it is an experimental vaccine. The vaccine is for emergency use only. It is "experimental". The ceo of pfizer stated that clearly on both cnn and even confirmed it through his tweets publicly.




"The tyranny of the majority"... a.k.a. democracy? Let me guess, it's only "tyranny of the majority" when you find yourself in the minority, and at other times you're fine with it?

Nope. I am against any infringement upon the rights of any individual no matter if they are from majority,minority,black,white,jew,atheist,christian etc. You see, I personally understand from history where "mob" rule leads to and how tyrants usurp "democracy". It takes a wise mind for such understanding.

Some guy wants to exercise his freedom to go into a public place with a gun and shoot random people. But the tyranny of the majority says he can't do that. Outrageous!  ::)

Nope. He is infringing upon the rights of his victims right to walk safely in a public place without threat or fear of being shot by him once he takes the first shot so it would be perfectly reasonable for cops or a member of the public to light his ass up on the spot but if he has a licence for a firearm and has no previous history of violence or serious psychological issues then it is impossible to stop him commiting such an offence as it is impossible to stop a regular mom or pop with a driving licence driving into a crowd of pedestrians when they are having a bad day. If he is unlicenced to have a firearm however he has broken the law already before he even walked into the public space. I understand things in more detail and complexity and am a moderate not extreme thinker so I also see the danger of leftie or right loons reacating to complex issues causing kneejerk reactions that infringe upon the rights of otherwise law abiding citizens. Life is not black and white my friend 8)





Title: Re: Is it safe to us to get Covid -19 Vaccine?
Post by: Cnut237 on February 18, 2022, 04:57:24 PM
Vaccine safety data has been witheld so it is an experimental vaccine.
What do you mean by 'withheld', do you have some examples? There have been over 10 billion doses administered over the last year and a bit. It's not like we don't have any data here.


"The tyranny of the majority"... a.k.a. democracy? Let me guess, it's only "tyranny of the majority" when you find yourself in the minority, and at other times you're fine with it?

Nope. I am against any infringement upon the rights of any individual no matter if they are from majority,minority,black,white,jew,atheist,christian etc. You see, I personally understand from history where "mob" rule leads to and how tyrants usurp "democracy". It takes a wise mind for such understanding.
Okay, so you believe that every individual is entitled to do whatever they like, regardless of the effect on other people, because to say someone can't do something - anything - is an outrageous restriction of their rights. So if someone wants to build a load of tanks and invade a neighbouring country, that's fine, because if you want to stop them, you're infringing their rights? I'd say they shouldn't be allowed to do it... but not all people see this the same way. It takes a wise mind for such understanding.


Some guy wants to exercise his freedom to go into a public place with a gun and shoot random people. But the tyranny of the majority says he can't do that. Outrageous!  ::)
Nope. He is infringing upon the rights of his victims right to walk safely in a public place without threat or fear of being shot by him once he takes the first shot so it would be perfectly reasonable for cops or a member of the public to light his ass up on the spot
Fine. Vaccination protects the population, as does mask-wearing, social distancing, etc. If you refuse to be vaccinated, but go out in public, you are increasing the chance that you will contract the virus, pass it on to other people, and potentially kill them. If you refuse vaccination, you are prolonging the pandemic. You are infringing on the rights of your victims to live.


Title: Re: Is it safe to us to get Covid -19 Vaccine?
Post by: Tash on February 18, 2022, 05:06:47 PM
Anyone who wants a toxic shot has got it by now, anyone not interested in partaking in the scam, never will, no matter what.
Unknown ingredients is infinitive risk. In ten years time we will know a bit about the survival rate of the shot experiment partakers.


Title: Re: Is it safe to us to get Covid -19 Vaccine?
Post by: Zlantann on February 19, 2022, 07:10:48 AM
I have heard of Covid-19 but the truth is I have never seen any patient. Please don't call me names. I have not seen one. Although I have never been to the hospital to see these patients neither have I visited any quarantine centre.

Another issue is that Covid-19 has the same symptoms with a particular sicknesses that we are used to in my area: Malaria.
Maybe I have even had covid and I didn't know.

I have also heard that the vaccine is saving lives regardless of some inherent lapses. And I have seen people take the vaccine.

But for me I don't know if it's safe because I have not been vaccinated.


Title: Re: Is it safe to us to get Covid -19 Vaccine?
Post by: Tash on February 19, 2022, 07:18:30 AM
I have heard of Covid-19 but the truth is I have never seen any patient.
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Neither did I see someone. I know of people who tested positive with a test which will never find a virus. Tel-lie-vision did show some "sick" people.
Truth is there is no such thing. If someone is sick it is from his/her own wrong doing.


Title: Re: Is it safe to us to get Covid -19 Vaccine?
Post by: tvbcof on February 19, 2022, 07:36:58 AM
I have heard of Covid-19 but the truth is I have never seen any patient. Please don't call me names. I have not seen one. Although I have never been to the hospital to see these patients neither have I visited any quarantine centre.

It is interesting that almost everyone who is told that they have 'covid' by the medical system believes it without a doubt or second thought.  This goes for the minority of people who are fully aware that the 'tests' are highly questionable and that hospitals could pick up a lot of extra money by writing 'covid' somewhere on the paperwork.  I heard first hand of people getting pretty sick in the U.S. early on, and losing their sense of smell, but it doesn't strike me as something which could only be produced by a particular spike protein producing coronavirus.

Another issue is that Covid-19 has the same symptoms with a particular sicknesses that we are used to in my area: Malaria.
Maybe I have even had covid and I didn't know.

Dengue fever is another one that certain well-placed people I know have been diagnosed with.  I suspect that if there is a financial or political incentive, a lot of that might just be labeled 'covid'.  It might anyway if there is a 'positive test' in conjunction with the other diagnosed conditions.

I have also heard that the vaccine is saving lives regardless of some inherent lapses. And I have seen people take the vaccine.

But for me I don't know if it's safe because I have not been vaccinated.

I know of zero people who even got sick, much less died, from something that I could be confident is a spike protein producing coronavirus.  I know within two or three degrees of at least 20 people who have actually died (and many more who got ill) within a short time of getting the so-called 'vaccine'.  I've even been obliged to help out with the funeral costs of some of these.

I myself have been sick several times in the last two years, and although I never had any lung issues or loss of smell, there is very little doubt that if I had seen anyone in the medical/industrial complex they would have given me a 'swab test', it would have come back positive, and I would have been put into the statistics as a 'covid case'.

A couple of things I've learned:

  1) Ivermectin works for a lot of the crud which is going around (and since the start of 2022, there seems to be a lot more of whatever it is.)

  2) If you want a negative 'covid' result for travel or what-not, pay for your own test from a private firm.  It costs too much for 'the natives' (or anyone who is a cheapskate) but it will inevitably come back negative (though I expect that in the highly unusual case that you really do have an active SARS-cov-2 viral infection, it might come back positive.)  Expect to pay more for a possibly valid 'covid test' than you pay for your plane ticket, though you don't need to try to make a deal or use a secret handshake or whatever.



Title: Re: Is it safe to us to get Covid -19 Vaccine?
Post by: Edith1994 on February 21, 2022, 02:46:54 PM
Yes. The two mRNA vaccines, Pfizer and Moderna, authorized by the U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA) and recommended by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC), are very safe and very good at preventing serious or fatal cases of COVID-19. The risk of serious side effects associated with these vaccines is very small.

COVID-19 Vaccine Safety — What We Know

The Pfizer and Moderna vaccines are strongly recommended as safe and effective at preventing serious illness or death from COVID-19.
From December 2020 to December 2021, about 470 million doses of COVID-19 vaccine have been given in the U.S.
Roughly 12 months of data, including data from tens of thousands of participants in clinical trials, show that the vaccines are safe and effective at preventing serious disease or death due to COVID-19.
Additional shots and boosters are also authorized for those who meet the guidelines.
mRNA technology used in the Pfizer and Moderna vaccines has been in development for over 15 years.
Pfizer’s vaccine received full FDA approval, which means more data show how well that particular vaccine works. The FDA may fully approve the Moderna coronavirus vaccine and others in the future.
Due to potential blood clots following administration of the Johnson & Johnson vaccine, the CDC updated its recommendations in December 2021. The CDC noted that the two mRNA vaccines, from Pfizer and Moderna, are preferred over the Johnson & Johnson vaccine, which remains available for those who prefer it and for use in certain circumstances.

Are there risks or safety concerns regarding the COVID vaccines?

To help catch risks or safety concerns, the CDC and FDA monitor possible safety issues with the COVID-19 vaccines. This ongoing work has led to revised recommendations for the Johnson & Johnson vaccine and information about rare side effects tied to the Pfizer and Moderna vaccines.

Johnson & Johnson/Janssen. In December 2021, the CDC updated its recommendations and stated that either of the two mRNA vaccines is preferred over the Johnson & Johnson (J&J) COVID-19 vaccine. The CDC explained that the Pfizer and Moderna vaccines are preferred due to a greater risk for developing rare but severe blood clots, called thrombosis with thrombocytopenia syndrome (TTS), following administration of the J&J vaccine. The CDC noted that there are some situations when a J&J vaccine may still be used, if the recipient understands the risks and benefits of the J&J vaccine. Read about side effects related to the rare blood clot.
At Johns Hopkins Medicine, we offer Pfizer and Moderna vaccines throughout our vaccine clinics. We have a limited supply of J&J vaccine and only offer it by request and if the recipient clearly understands the risks and benefits.

Pfizer and Moderna. After observing rare occurrences of myocarditis following the second injection of the Pfizer and Moderna COVID-19 vaccines, the CDC released information for the public. Most of these myocarditis events happened in teens and young adults, and the majority of the cases were mild and cleared up on their own. Read about side effects related to myocarditis.

https://www-hopkinsmedicine-org.cdn.ampproject.org/v/s/www.hopkinsmedicine.org/health/conditions-and-diseases/coronavirus/is-the-covid19-vaccine-safe?amp_js_v=a6&amp_gsa=1&amp=true&usqp=mq331AQKKAFQArABIIACAw%3D%3D#aoh=16454541028644&referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com&amp_tf=From%20%251%24s&ampshare=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.hopkinsmedicine.org%2Fhealth%2Fconditions-and-diseases%2Fcoronavirus%2Fis-the-covid19-vaccine-safe


Title: Re: Is it safe to us to get Covid -19 Vaccine?
Post by: Ultegra134 on February 21, 2022, 05:30:32 PM
I have heard of Covid-19 but the truth is I have never seen any patient. Please don't call me names. I have not seen one. Although I have never been to the hospital to see these patients neither have I visited any quarantine centre.

Another issue is that Covid-19 has the same symptoms with a particular sicknesses that we are used to in my area: Malaria.
Maybe I have even had covid and I didn't know.

I have also heard that the vaccine is saving lives regardless of some inherent lapses. And I have seen people take the vaccine.

But for me I don't know if it's safe because I have not been vaccinated.
My girlfriend, me and a few friends of mine had recently got infected, fortunately, all of us with mild symptoms since we were vaccinated. Approximately two years ago, I was admitted to the Covid-19 ward, as a suspected case, and could hear other patients from my room, while I also had an acquaintance's mother die from Covid-19, aged 60 years old. Just because you haven't seen one, doesn't mean it doesn't exist.


Title: Re: Is it safe to us to get Covid -19 Vaccine?
Post by: hornetsnest on February 22, 2022, 11:34:55 PM

What do you mean by 'withheld', do you have some examples? There have been over 10 billion doses administered over the last year and a bit. It's not like we don't have any data here.

Go look it up and stop making shit up as you go along. The 10B doses haven't had time to do damage en masse but plenty of bodies are hitting the floor already from the after effects of vaccines and you are only seeing the beginning of what's going to happen no matter if they suddenly stop reporting vaccine status after unusual sudden death which I suspect will be the next move.The FDA alone wanted 75 years to release safety data using the old we need more resources to get through this shit spin.


you believe that every individual is entitled to do whatever they like, regardless of the effect on other people, because to say someone can't do something - anything - is an outrageous restriction of their rights. So if someone wants to build a load of tanks and invade a neighbouring country, that's fine, because if you want to stop them, you're infringing their rights? I'd say they shouldn't be allowed to do it... but not all people see this the same way. It takes a wise mind for such understanding.


You've ignored what I said above about personal liberty and it including repercussions for infringing the rights of others so it's only a courtesy giving a response here. You have the right to do as you please once that doesn't infringe on the rights of others so no rolling into your neighbourhood with the tanks would be a no no.

nation protects the population, as does mask-wearing, social distancing, etc. If you refuse to be vaccinated, but go out in public, you are increasing the chance that you will contract the virus, pass it on to other people, and potentially kill them. If you refuse vaccination, you are prolonging the pandemic. You are infringing on the rights of your victims to live.

Nope,you vaccinated plebs are more of a risk to the unvaccinated and spread the "disease" and still end up in hospital dying so feel free to stay at home while tax paying unvaccinated citizens enjoy the services and social amenity they pay for and they are entitled to decide what goes into their own bloodstream and stop supporting government harrassment,coercion,threat to their liberty to move freely and stop trying to impose your will on them. You cannot trade freedom for security. If you do this then any future pretext for an emergency,crisis or threat to security is all that's needed to circumvent your constitutional right to freedom.


Title: Re: Is it safe to us to get Covid -19 Vaccine?
Post by: Tash on March 04, 2022, 04:40:45 PM
Federal Judge Forces FDA to Release Pfizer COVID-19 Vaccine Data.
9 pages of side effects, holy cow wow.
https://twitter.com/Red_Pill_Led/status/1499051909847478272?ref_src=twsrc^tfw|twcamp^tweetembed|twterm^1499051909847478272|twgr^|twcon^s1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwelovetrump.com%2F2022%2F03%2F03%2Fwhat-is-1p36-deletion-syndrome-the-first-side-effect-listed-in-pfizers-released-document-video%2F%3Futm_source%3Dnewsletter_ssputm_medium%3Demailutm_campaign%3Dssp


Title: Re: Is it safe to us to get Covid -19 Vaccine?
Post by: im posible on March 04, 2022, 11:09:13 PM
To be safe from covid? Yes, but not 100%. Safe from the interests of the political elite behind the vaccine? 100% no.

At least with the vaccine the risk of corona malignancy will decrease for people who have been vaccinated. Yesterday I just lost a relative who is really old and has other co-morbidities and has never been vaccinated, and the doctor said "if it had been vaccinated before then the effect wouldn't be this bad"


Title: Re: Is it safe to us to get Covid -19 Vaccine?
Post by: Tash on March 05, 2022, 02:33:10 PM
To be safe from covid? Yes, but not 100%. Safe from the interests of the political elite behind the vaccine? 100% no.

At least with the vaccine the risk of corona malignancy will decrease for people who have been vaccinated. Yesterday I just lost a relative who is really old and has other co-morbidities and has never been vaccinated, and the doctor said "if it had been vaccinated before then the effect wouldn't be this bad"

You say really old and a lot of co-morbidities and injecting a load of toxis is somehow doing any good?
https://i.ibb.co/p47TTBz/Unt1.jpg (https://ibb.co/RQFKKk0)


The Pfizer Vaccine has to be save with only 1,291 side dffects!
https://emeralddb3.substack.com/p/the-pfizer-vaccine-only-has-1291?r=18umnr&s=r&utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=email

There are great many of 1000 covidstories https://1000covidstories.com/


Title: Re: Is it safe to us to get Covid -19 Vaccine?
Post by: Ebede on March 05, 2022, 09:40:19 PM
To be safe from covid? Yes, but not 100%. Safe from the interests of the political elite behind the vaccine? 100% no.

At least with the vaccine the risk of corona malignancy will decrease for people who have been vaccinated. Yesterday I just lost a relative who is really old and has other co-morbidities and has never been vaccinated, and the doctor said "if it had been vaccinated before then the effect wouldn't be this bad"
The thing is that some is not regarding the use of coronavirus vaccine because government made every vaccine to be free from any one that wants to take the vaccine, because the vaccine is keeping some people according to testimony of who is already taken the vaccine because nothing government bring that is not for the support and growth of the country, let people admit to take the vaccine because it serve some one not to get the incoming virus


Title: Re: Is it safe to us to get Covid -19 Vaccine?
Post by: Tash on March 10, 2022, 06:37:28 AM

3% vaccine deaths, for a disease that has below 1% mortality rates?!?
https://dailyreportusa.com/breaking-pfizer-may-lose-liability-protection-and-can-be-sued-if-the-deaths-are-proven-willful/


Top Secret Pfizer Documents Leaked: Pfizer Knew That Vaccines Would Kill Thousands
https://www.redvoicemedia.com/2022/03/top-secret-pfizer-documents-leaked-pfizer-knew-that-vaxx-would-kill-thousands/

1918 Spanish flu 50 million died from Bacterial Pneumonia caused by MASKS.
https://i.ibb.co/sWcfSLS/Unt1.jpg (https://ibb.co/g4Q21s1) https://i.ibb.co/KF0M3s3/Unt1.jpg (https://ibb.co/zGny020)


Title: Re: Is it safe to us to get Covid -19 Vaccine?
Post by: Cnut237 on March 10, 2022, 10:22:51 AM
You say really old and a lot of co-morbidities and injecting a load of toxis is somehow doing any good?
https://i.ibb.co/p47TTBz/Unt1.jpg (https://ibb.co/RQFKKk0)

It's lucky that we can compare your chart to a chart showing exactly what Covid case numbers would have been if the vaccines had never been developed.
Because if we couldn't, your chart would be utterly meaningless.



There are great many of 1000 covidstories https://1000covidstories.com/

Great news! So 10 billion plus doses administered, 1000 instances of side-effects, therefore side-effects in only 0.00001% of cases.


Really, if someone isn't
prepared to even look at
capable of understanding
convinced by the data by now, they're unlikely ever to change their position.


Title: Re: Is it safe to us to get Covid -19 Vaccine?
Post by: Tash on March 12, 2022, 07:22:21 PM
Depopulation agenda: Covid-19. Are you a victim of the death shot?
https://zbbb278hfll091.bitchute.com/ws4fMTn6yNc7/IjgzKGI0CcAp.mp4


https://i.ibb.co/YL4mXN4/2022-03-10-084309-1280x800-scrot.png (https://imgbb.com/)


Title: Re: Is it safe to us to get Covid -19 Vaccine?
Post by: Blended@ on March 12, 2022, 07:52:30 PM
Very seriously peopel afair on this covid19 vaccine,because some people complain on how vaccine do them,l take the first does l was down for 2days but after 2days l was okay,so it is better to treat yourself before you can take the vaccine,it is good l take my own,so pls go an take your covid 19 vaccination please prevention is very important


Title: Re: Is it safe to us to get Covid -19 Vaccine?
Post by: Tash on March 14, 2022, 09:46:48 AM

Nope no hacking for me
https://twitter.com/frenbarbarian/status/1503197158882873345?s=21

We all know
Infection Rates Higher in Triple Vaccinated Than in Unvaccinated Across All Age Groups, UKHSA Data Show
https://dailysceptic.org/2022/03/13/infection-rates-higher-in-triple-vaccinated-than-unvaccinated-across-all-age-groups-ukhsa-data-show/


Title: Re: Is it safe to us to get Covid -19 Vaccine?
Post by: Cnut237 on March 14, 2022, 10:58:25 AM
We all know
Infection Rates Higher in Triple Vaccinated Than in Unvaccinated Across All Age Groups, UKHSA Data Show
https://dailysceptic.org/2022/03/13/infection-rates-higher-in-triple-vaccinated-than-unvaccinated-across-all-age-groups-ukhsa-data-show/

The person who wrote that is either incompetent, or else attempting to mislead readers. His charts have been removed from their context. This sort of behaviour is very common. The problem is that readers are either unable or unwilling to look any deeper into these ridiculous claims. Did you know that whenever a so-called "random" playing card is drawn from a full deck, it is always the 7 of diamonds? Well, it's true*.

His charts are from the UKHSA reports, here: https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/covid-19-vaccine-weekly-surveillance-reports

Here's a sample, with some context.

https://i.imgur.com/jAfXJ84.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/GdJ106L.jpg







* Based on the sample of one time when I drew a card from a pack, a couple of minutes ago.


Title: Re: Is it safe to us to get Covid -19 Vaccine?
Post by: Gyfts on March 14, 2022, 01:34:19 PM
Pfizer CEO says we all need a second booster, 4 shots in total.

How many vaccines do we have that work this poorly in which you need 4 shots in ~1 year, perhaps not many.

https://www.cnn.com/2022/03/13/health/pfizer-vaccine-4th-dose/index.html

Israel did a study experimenting with 2nd boosters. Found little effect against Omicron: https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-022-00486-9

An increase in antibody levels, but the lesser rate of infection amongst the group that had 4 shots was marginal. Hardly worth the side effects that might arise after having 4 shots. Also, another study demonstrated something like <15% efficacy of the vaccines against infection for children 5-11.


Title: Re: Is it safe to us to get Covid -19 Vaccine?
Post by: D ltr on March 14, 2022, 02:56:53 PM
I think it's safe because until now I can still do my activities and I've had 2 vaccines, the conditions are from my country, and I'm currently waiting for a booster vaccine call.
vaccine recipients that have different effects are actually the main reason the body is not fit and given the vaccine, advice if you want the vaccine to get enough rest so as not to cause a lasting effect and achieve death


Title: Re: Is it safe to us to get Covid -19 Vaccine?
Post by: Tash on March 14, 2022, 05:28:22 PM
The So-called "vaccine" has "no benefit whatsoever... but has the capacity over a million pathways to kill you... This looks premeditated"
In the second ten minute presentation Dr Bhakti goes beyond the evidence of the crime, and helps lead in the necessary lawful hunt and prosecution of the global predators running the covid crimes.
https://drtrozzi.org/2022/03/14/dr-sucharit-bhakti-intense-new-material/




Title: Re: Is it safe to us to get Covid -19 Vaccine?
Post by: Cnut237 on March 14, 2022, 06:06:36 PM

The So-called "vaccine" has "no benefit whatsoever... but has the capacity over a million pathways to kill you... This looks premeditated"
https://drtrozzi.org/2022/03/14/dr-sucharit-bhakti-intense-new-material/

So... what do you think of my comments on your last post? Are you going to engage? Or is it easier to continue posting nonsense without really thinking about what you're typing*?
What does it say about your position, if you're unwilling to attempt to defend it?







*or what you're copy/pasting?


Title: Re: Is it safe to us to get Covid -19 Vaccine?
Post by: BADecker on March 14, 2022, 06:33:58 PM
Is it safe to us to get Covid -19 Vaccine?


People should stop asking such silly questions. Of course it's safe. The only difference being that you will die decades sooner. But consider all the trouble in life you will miss out on.



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Title: Re: Is it safe to us to get Covid -19 Vaccine?
Post by: Tash on March 14, 2022, 06:37:24 PM

The So-called "vaccine" has "no benefit whatsoever... but has the capacity over a million pathways to kill you... This looks premeditated"
https://drtrozzi.org/2022/03/14/dr-sucharit-bhakti-intense-new-material/

So... what do you think of my comments on your last post? Are you going to engage? Or is it easier to continue posting nonsense without really thinking about what you're typing*?
What does it say about your position, if you're unwilling to attempt to defend it?



*or what you're copy/pasting?
Some are not worthy to communicate with.

The US Military Has Its Own Version of VAERS, And The Results Are Frightening
https://thetenpennyreport.com/the-us-military-has-its-own-version-of-vaers-and-the-results-are-frightening/


Title: Re: Is it safe to us to get Covid -19 Vaccine?
Post by: Ebede on March 14, 2022, 09:59:28 PM
Is it safe to us to get Covid -19 Vaccine?


People should stop asking such silly questions. Of course it's safe. The only difference being that you will die decades sooner. But consider all the trouble in life you will miss out on.



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I think the reason they asked such question is due to they want to know if really they can get such vaccine, because from the way i looked at it, not every country that the vaccine is as popular and easy to get like other countries, i believe that is one of the things they are asking such question


Title: Re: Is it safe to us to get Covid -19 Vaccine?
Post by: suzanne5223 on March 14, 2022, 11:01:11 PM
Is it safe to us to get Covid -19 Vaccine?


People should stop asking such silly questions. Of course it's safe. The only difference being that you will die decades sooner. But consider all the trouble in life you will miss out on.



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I think the reason they asked such question is due to they want to know if really they can get such vaccine, because from the way i looked at it, not every country that the vaccine is as popular and easy to get like other countries, i believe that is one of the things they are asking such question
To be honest. There's so much misinformation and lies about the vaccine because I have seen someone who gets the vaccine and die some the third day. Which mean there's something much more behind the vaccine though it may be not all vaccine.  I never support the act of getting vaccinated and neither did I get one for myself.


Title: Re: Is it safe to us to get Covid -19 Vaccine?
Post by: Cnut237 on March 15, 2022, 11:17:05 AM
So... what do you think of my comments on your last post? Are you going to engage? Or is it easier to continue posting nonsense without really thinking about what you're typing*?
What does it say about your position, if you're unwilling to attempt to defend it?
Some are not worthy to communicate with.

If someone demonstrates that the "information" you are sharing is misleading or fraudulent, and you're not willing to even try to defend it, then this suggests that either a) you're perfectly aware that you are posting nonsense, or b) you don't understand what you're posting.



To be honest. There's so much misinformation and lies about the vaccine because I have seen someone who gets the vaccine and die some the third day. Which mean there's something much more behind the vaccine though it may be not all vaccine.  I never support the act of getting vaccinated and neither did I get one for myself.

Many of us know people who have died from Covid, vaccinated or not. But over 10 billion doses have been administered, and the protective effects of the vaccine are perfectly clear. There's no need to try to extrapolate from a single data point to determine a trend, when both the trend information and the underlying data are readily available.


Title: Re: Is it safe to us to get Covid -19 Vaccine?
Post by: Tash on March 15, 2022, 04:16:55 PM
So... what do you think of my comments on your last post? Are you going to engage? Or is it easier to continue posting nonsense without really thinking about what you're typing*?
What does it say about your position, if you're unwilling to attempt to defend it?
Some are not worthy to communicate with.

If someone demonstrates that the "information" you are sharing is misleading or fraudulent, and you're not willing to even try to defend it, then this suggests that either a) you're perfectly aware that you are posting nonsense, or b) you don't understand what you're posting.


Common law courts are on the way, you know the no theatrics, no judge to pay off, quick done and over with.
May take a little while to set up but good thing to take time. Common law is still the highest court in the land over anything else.


Title: Re: Is it safe to us to get Covid -19 Vaccine?
Post by: suzanne5223 on March 16, 2022, 07:00:39 PM
To be honest. There's so much misinformation and lies about the vaccine because I have seen someone who gets the vaccine and die some the third day. Which mean there's something much more behind the vaccine though it may be not all vaccine.  I never support the act of getting vaccinated and neither did I get one for myself.

Many of us know people who have died from Covid, vaccinated or not. But over 10 billion doses have been administered, and the protective effects of the vaccine are perfectly clear. There's no need to try to extrapolate from a single data point to determine a trend, when both the trend information and the underlying data are readily available.
To be more clear of your point. Are you saying the people who are perfectly fine before they took the vaccine but die in 2 days after they the take vaccine, are you saying their life doesn't matter?
Because this issue also needs to be addressed cause there seems to be some error in some vaccines and the more we ignore this fact the more people are killed all in the name of getting vacinne.


Title: Re: Is it safe to us to get Covid -19 Vaccine?
Post by: KingScorpio on March 16, 2022, 08:18:39 PM
Covid is the Will of GOD, like Cancer or the Plague,

it's god who rules over diseases, why else has the middle east the lowest Cancer Rates in the World?

regards


Title: Re: Is it safe to us to get Covid -19 Vaccine?
Post by: BADecker on March 16, 2022, 09:55:57 PM


Many of us know people who have died from Covid, vaccinated or not. But over 10 billion doses have been administered, and the protective effects of the vaccine are perfectly clear. There's no need to try to extrapolate from a single data point to determine a trend, when both the trend information and the underlying data are readily available.

Many of us knew people who somebody said they died of Covid. Most of us who are listening to this, are simply listening to hearsay... because nobody as done a proper isolation.

Any doctor can be given the picture of what Covid is supposed to look like, and then dig around in a bunch of mucus until he finds all the parts of a virus, and then manipulate the parts, and assemble them into the picture they have been given. That's all that is happening. It's simply an advanced form or CRISPR to being used to make Covid.

NOBODY has used a method whereby he has simply pulled the entire completed whole virus, already assembled, out of the mucus.

Covid is a complete lie.

Or show some proof that it's not like this.  Show some proof of a Covid virus extraction, rather than a parts manipulation into a complete virus. All the so called isolations are merely constructions.

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Covid is the Will of GOD, like Cancer or the Plague,

it's god who rules over diseases, why else has the middle east the lowest Cancer Rates in the World?

regards

All of the will of God is God allowing mankind to be free to harm or destroy himself if he wants. God says "no" to man's self destruction for a long time. But finally He gives us what we are asking for. And even then He often softens the pain and trouble we get ourselves into... because He loves us.

God's saved people often are manipulated out of the bad stuff, just because we are His children. And it comes on the wicked unbelievers instead.

8)



So... what do you think of my comments on your last post? Are you going to engage? Or is it easier to continue posting nonsense without really thinking about what you're typing*?
What does it say about your position, if you're unwilling to attempt to defend it?
Some are not worthy to communicate with.

If someone demonstrates that the "information" you are sharing is misleading or fraudulent, and you're not willing to even try to defend it, then this suggests that either a) you're perfectly aware that you are posting nonsense, or b) you don't understand what you're posting.


Common law courts are on the way, you know the no theatrics, no judge to pay off, quick done and over with.
May take a little while to set up but good thing to take time. Common law is still the highest court in the land over anything else.


The Supreme Court is a common law court. And the Federal District Court is directly shown to be so in Corpus Juris Secundum. Just because a court originated as a common law court, doesn't mean it can't take on aspects of other courts when asked to do so. And no court has the right or ability to adjudicate over the ways SCOTUS does it's job.

The reason the Supreme Court won't take on the adjudication of Covid or elections questions is simple. Common law requires a man or woman bringing the case. But according to the paperwork, it's always artificial entities bringing the case. So, the Court doesn't have to hear it. Until people recognize this little bit, they will never understand how the courts work.

If you want to see how this works, spend some time. Your difficulty won't be in understanding it. Your difficulty will be in believing how simple it is.

First, this is most important. But it won't make much sense without an understanding of common law's place in society - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RXQpigzS9uc.

The rest of it at https://www.youtube.com/c/CraigLynch/videos will give you the ground work basics.

Listen to this 5 hours to see what this is all about... "Karl Lentz at Johnson City Tennessee - April 16th 2016" - https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=karl+lentz+johnson+city. This is the forward, or the prelude, to real common law.

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Title: Re: Is it safe to us to get Covid -19 Vaccine?
Post by: Tash on March 17, 2022, 06:42:38 AM

Doctors are mystified by the increasing number of people who are suffering from severe ailments after receiving their COVID vaccinations
https://en-volve.com/2022/03/16/doctors-speak-out-as-millions-of-vaccinated-people-are-now-suffering-from-excruciating-unexplained-illnesses/

Wall Street analyst: COVID vaccines 'greatest fraud in history'
https://www.wnd.com/2022/03/wall-street-analyst-covid-vaccines-greatest-fraud-history/?utm_source=Email&utm_medium=wnd-breaking&utm_campaign=breaking&utm_content=breaking&ats_es=[-MD5-]

Extraordinary Thing Happening as Demand for Vaccine Collapses in Face of Massive Supply
https://www.westernjournal.com/extraordinary-thing-happening-demand-vaccine-collapses-face-massive-supply/


Title: Re: Is it safe to us to get Covid -19 Vaccine?
Post by: Tash on April 13, 2022, 02:48:07 PM

It is as save as king cobra venom
Watch the Water or Snake Venom is COVID19
https://rumble.com/v10o0fp-watch-the-water-or-snake-venom-is-covid19.html