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The image below have made me realize that there's actually no loss of money in crypto currencies, be it in a bull market or bear market, what we often see as a loss during bear market is actually a minds trick, and because we allow that thought dwell in our mind for too long, it then becomes our reality, remember "As a man thinketh in his mind/heart, so he is".
We are literally what our mind is.
In a bull market, your bitcoin or any other coin affords you more usd and in a bear market, your usd affords you more bitcoin or any other coin of choice, and remember that in crypto, patience is a great key to unlocking wealth, patience equals HODL.

Feel free to state your thought(s).

OP, make sure to credit the source of that picture if it was lifted online so you don't get to be accused of plagiarism. Going forward, let me quickly remind us that it's not only Bitcoin one gains (as your picture implies) during bear season. We also gain other tokens. Come to think of it, not everybody fancies Bitcoin. There are crypto investors who don't even want to have anything to do with Bitcoin. I've one as a friend. Dude doesn't think Bitcoin is special. He invests in rare alts and runs nodes.

If you are hodling a coin whether bitcoin or altcoins there is no actual loss or profit in bear or bull respectively but what we have in bear is reduction of the worth of the coins in dollar or USDT and if in bull the same value increase too but the important thing of note is that for hodling the amount of unit of the coin is not changing. Example if you have 10 btc, it remains 10 btc whether in bull or bear but the worth, value or price keep moving or changing.

But hodling alone will not make you grow as an investor. You have to move your investment too like selling when there is new ATH, and buying the same potential coins when bear season or correction happens from the profits you have made from selling. Though hodling will not make you lose, but it does not hold any guarantee either that you will always make profits if you do nothing on your coins.

I guess we have our own preferences when it comes to investment and bitcoin is not always the first choice for some, though majority still bet on it. But as long as we are investing in crypto, there's always its bear and bull season benefits that each investor should understand so they won't up entering at the market at the wrong time. But i must say, both have a win-win scenario. However, it will add more profits if we can make a good entry and a good exit because it will determine how investors are capable of that.

Beginners always have the mistake on controlling their emotions, they tend to sell more at a loss and this has been their mistakes, we can’t stop this kind of scenario because not everyone is meant to become a trader. Well, bull is good for taking profit and bear is good for accumulating, this is a great strategy especially if you are able to timing the market.

But I wouldn't spend my bitcoin for buying alts in a bull market. I don't think that's a good decision for me and if I'm going to stack up altcoins. I'd be doing it during the bear market.

It's much better to do that on that season when the price of everything is cheap. However, there's no delay if you're going to sell at any time when your reason is that you needed money for things that you have to spend it for emergency.

I am trying to figure out a way to understand that my btc increases in a bear market. If I have like 0.05 btc which for instance is equal to $7,000. In a bull market, the dollar may rise to $9,000. Then in a bear market, I am not sure that 0.05 btc will increase to 0.06 btc. I will need explanation from OP about this please.

The bear market serves as the best time for more people to get hold of bitcoin or other cryptocurrency at a cheaper rate. While the bull market is a way to reward people who held through the bearish time either by hodl or buying the dip. So, the both terms helps the market and without these two phenomenon the cryptocurrency market will not circulate properly. The image is self explanatory and people should learn through such phrases that makes it easier for people to understand how the market works. 

This is the reason why many people are attracted with this market. The possibility of earning profits is always there if you know how to strategize in this market. It is on your own hands how you will take advantage of this market. But for other people who got screwed with their investments, they will spread fud and lies, and so some people are afraid to get into this market owed to this misconception from others.

The loss is real in crypto, we cannot generalize people's capacity in crypto business. You can claim to have no loss for the experts, but it is a usual case for newbies/beginners. In this matter, we cannot deny there are many people who lost their money in crypto investment/trading. However, it is all about "knowledge". Once you have enough knowledge and experience, you can smaller the chance for the loss since you take advantage of the bullish and bearish cycle. But for newbies, are often influenced by rumors because of having lack of knowledge and experience.

This really should be the case in an ideal scenario, but the reality for many proves the opposite. Thus, many people buy coins when their price has reached a high and, accordingly, sell them when the price has reached a low. Well, most continue to hodl until the price reaches the target.

In crypto, there's always a bull season that is a rising market, while this bear season is shown having price decline. But if you know how to take advantage with them both, you will always win and gain profits, and losses will always be the last option. But not all investors think that. They always see the bear season as time to lose since prices are dipping when in fact, its the best opportunity to enter the market so we can prepare to make profits when bull season comes. So bulls and bears have never been in opposition, instead they always come up relevant to each other. And if we can make an edge during bear season, then most likely we' be profitable when bull run comes.

If you come to invest in the market with lack of knowledge and determination, then you will be easily carried away by fuds and lies that have spread around. But if you have understood the market moves accordingly, then you will never fall into most of investors beliefs that bear season creates negative sentiments while bull season is the perfect time to sell since prices are increasing. With this mindset, its hard to sustain consistent profits knowing you're on the wrong path.

Bull and bear market in crypto intended to create a win-win scenario, thus no losses but purely gains. That is, if you have the skills and strategies to use in making an edge from having both of them. But if you only consider that bull season simply makes you more profits because of increasing prices while bear season makes the prices down without making a good analysis in it, then you will never know how to make advantage of them. That is why knowledge is truly a power. And experience will also help you to understand the different market cycle.

Our mind is financially tricky, that's why everyone gets scared in a bear market and sells off everything. That being said, I used to have this question on my mind why do people always sell their bitcoins when the market is dumping? is it that they fear the bear market? but my findings help me to understand that the crypto market is more than just a regular spot trading of BTC?USD, we have margins, futures, and options, they will sell in other to mitigate their loss.
If I have the capacity to gather more wealth one day, I will be a full-time trader, both bear and bull markets should be a win-win if you know how to play around, sometimes holding and waiting for another bear market is never enough to accomplish huge profits.

Bull and Bear are two sides of a coin, two sides of the market and the market can not exist without any of them.

You won't see bull market if you don't witness bear market. Without dumps, you won't see pumps. If you are in the market for long, you will witness both. You will experience from win to lose, happy to painful and many opposite experience as well as feeling.

Investment and trading are not easy but when you love it, you can not stop. I am sure if you love the market, you will have to witness both bull and bear times.

What shows in the image you've shared is true, but bearish market has one certain effect on some people. Yes, you could gain more bitcoin by buying the dip, that's a advantage if you have the funds to do so, but for those who do not have, and merely making profits from trading when the market is in sideways, bearish market is not good for them. I mean, especially if they lack on trading skills, they'll be force to sell their coins in any price on bearish market because they have nothing to buy foods and pay their bills.

It’s part of the trading game. There’s no such thing as pump or dump only. In life, there are ups and downs. Same thing goes with Bitcoin and other cryptocurrencies that are subject to market volatility. We’ve got to appreciate it. If it’s dumping, that’s a good opportunity for us to buy and accumulate more and also for those who are shorting while doing margin or futures trading.

As long as you do not sell your coins at a low price and keep your coins, you can't say a total loss because you still have the opportunity to sell the coins at the highest price later. Yes, it depends on how we respond to the bull and bear markets.

If you can take advantage of the market situation, you will be able to adapt to the situation and make a profit. Yes, patience is the key to trading and not everyone can do it.

You're unlikely to determine both as they're hard to do so but, if you've been in the market for so long.

You can analyze if it's start of the bull run. But knowing if we're already in the bear market, you'll eventually see that we're in if the whole quarter up to a year is all about dipping.

If that strategy works for you as you buy at the start of bulls, then for the others, it's working to buy during the bear season.

That is quite an easy logic and easy illustration right there, but many are finding it hard to execute even If they are all aware about Bitcoin's historical data value.
This kind of thinking is suitable much for the traders, but with the long term investors, It doesn't really matter, unless they're buying during the dip or sharp corrections. Long term profit for Bitcoin is much safer than anything else in crypto space.

As for me, both could be our motivation because we could earn Bitcoin and dollars in every market situation if we know how to deal with it. A smart trader sees every market situation as an opportunity not to doubt or to fear but rather to earn and gain profit. Perfect timing is the key and knowledge would be an edge. The blockchain world is too challenging so we should know how to go with the flow while earning.

It is a matter of how people respond to the abrupt changes in the market. Many had sold their crypto during the bear season for they are worried about the market will going to drop more without realizing that they can still make a profit upon waiting for the recovery. I'd see that FEAR is a big problem in most of us here, uncontrollable emotions trigger unwanted decisions that make us regret. I'm into that situation before but I realize that we can make it right if we are optimistic about the market flow.

The question is how the patience you are. Brilliant could make money even in a bear market and the panic seller just loses. Cryptocurrency is most popular due bear and bull game. Who could accept bear and accumulate more is the gainer. Holding 1 Bitcoin is worth always 1 Bitcoin, but you will lose when calculating in fiat. Here is the patience stands for. Who can use the bear advantage will be the gainer. That's the logic of becoming a profitable trader.

There's actually no loss for crypto, that is only for the eyes of strong hands in crypto as they always see the opportunities even in a bear market where there is less chances to make profits. But for those who have never been stronger but always have weak hands, the bear season is always the time for visible losses as you can't sell this time with profits. Of course, a wise trader will never sell if there is no good profits waiting ahead, but will always find time to buy when prices are in dips.

Like that concept, the scenario is very comprehensive to people who knows the regulation of cryptocurrency, but from other way round many people mindset goes that Bitcoin people adventure into the disadvantages of it when bear market occur or when is in existence, and bull market is all about people getting into profit subsequently, both of them people make profit and also make lost, so it depends when you adventure into market.

With all the events that make the crypto market unpredictable, we can't be more profitable if we always have fear inside. Instead, we should be more risk takers as there can be no possible big changes that will take place if we never dare to take the risk. And yes, being more optimistic too could always give us an edge so we can make more profits regardless of the current season, be it bullish or bearish. But one thing is certain, bull and bear have always bring opportunities not to lose but to offer us profits.

^ Every market action is very important to us when bull market comes holders are happy and then when the bear market comes, buyers or investors are quite too happy because they can able to purchase at the lower price and they know that someday this will give benefit to them in the long run.
It is natural to BTC that there is an up and down price movement and that is called fluctuation which is in theta way they are easy making money in trading.
Nevertheless, if you hold BTC you have nothing to lose if you know how to control it.

It's already a proven facts that in this industry the bulls and bears brings about a win-win situation. If you're smart you'll realized that the bears only present an opportunity to get Bitcoin at a discounted price. If you know the true value of Bitcoin you won't be bothered by the corrections instead you'll be glad and accumulate as many Bitcoin as possible.

Been patience shoudn't be applied to every cryptocurency out there, that's if you're an investor of altcoins. Hodl should only be associated with Bitcoin as that's only when you win truely. The rest wins are only in USD but when you in check the satoshi value, you would had been better off just holding your Bitcoin instead if using it to buy altcoins.

Altcoins preach holding with only the selected few that have done so well when holding but if you dig dipper you'll see thousands of cryptocurency that have done poorly when you held. Majority are only profitable when you trade them be smart.

Yeah, this is so true, regardless of what market cycle we have, it's going to be a win-win situation for us. The problem is that investors don't know how to take advantage of it. You will hear them bitching around during the bear market and then they continue to trade, lost some money. But if they will just accumulate in this cycle and hold for the next bull run, then they can make a lot of money, you just need to have a lot of patience (a quality that we need a lot in this market).

The problem is that some of us are too impatient when it comes to holding especially in bear market but little did they know they could gain more Bitcoin in the market if there's a bear trend. But some of us want to risk trading in a delicate way just to gain some profit, well, it all depends actually if you are a pro in this field since trading was never an easy task especially in bear market. It takes some time, knowledge, and experience for someone to be able to perform well in an unpredictable volatility of the market.

This is the reason why most investors and traders fail because they lose their patience when the market suddenly crash and resort into selling their coins because of the fear that their investments will no longer make profits anymore. So they end up losing the profits instead. However, investors and traders who have long patience to hold and learn to wait for the right timing to sell always end up successful in gaining a good amount of income. Thus, bull and bear season have always given us opportunities to make profits, but most of us do not know on how to dig the opportunities within.

Regardless of any thoughts, people have to understand that a bearish market is not totally a negative situation they can consider in the crypto market. Without a bearish market, there's no choice but to buy at peak price, not just in bitcoin but for other coins as well.

Either bullish or the bearish market situation also enhanced anyone's skills regarding what approach they need to do in order to deal with the current situation.

Building experience is the key in general. Bull or bear, shouldn't be a problem at experienced ones.

Bearish and bullish two systemic part in the cryptocurrencies trading platform . Cryptocurrencies market always uncertain in nature and nobody don't know what would be happened in the coming future. But only experienced traders can realize the future trends of market.

Wow I am loving that banner, it portrays everything perfectly. Yes it states the truth about the crypto market. This is the disadvantage in the share market or real world commodity market where you loose everything if the market is in the bear market. For example, when you buy stocks and it looses value you are actually loosing the equivalent fiat which is bad because stocks may regain the value or may not for very long terms. In case of bitcoin, you have the coins which can still be transacted and work as if it’s just another normal day.  :P

In a bull market, everyone is happy because they take profit to their assets in a bear market for sure many people created a fud and starts to blame the market because of the bitcoin dominance and some of them already trap their investments one of the factors too but they didn't see the graph and the given opportunity to buy more bitcoin in my side its a good thing to buy more crypto because of course not all the time its the bear market so graph as we can but afford to lose.

Good point, I have to agree, but if you keep it in a simple manner, the logic is to go into alts when we are having bullish action and either stay in Stablecoin or stay in BTC when there is a bearish market going around. I have seen so many people focusing just on increasing their dollar count which is a pretty wrong strategy because if you are just gaining dollars and losing bitcoin while trading, why are you even moving your money from bitcoin? Just let it stay in bitcoin only, if you are moving it from there, make sure you make the best use of it. and in bearish market, it's normal to go down in dollars but make sure you don't lose your BTC count because it's difficult to regain it in bearish market.

Indeed it is. Every time the price of a cryptocurrency goes up or down, it is an opportunity to make money. However, here you need to be able to act correctly and anticipate the situation. That is, when prices for cryptocurrencies fall, you need to have time to buy at a lower price, and if they grow, have time to sell at a higher price. Everything seems to be logical and correct, but not everyone manages to use this opportunity. Probably, this requires experience and a vision of the market, then everything will definitely work out.

Yes, I totally get what you are pointing at, a deeper understanding of the market is required if one must use every side of the market to their own advantage, it's all about learning, it's a skill anyone can master if they invest the time and effort needed, learning to make money in crypto both in bull and bear market, I.e, (turning every market situation to your own advantage) is not a thing for newbies.
Until one can comfortably see the money making opportunities in a bear market, rather than complain about their portfolio going down, that person is yet to understand crypto fully.

Not everyone is happy, especially those who bought at the peak price and suddenly the price started to correct and drop the price, so technically bull is not always about taking profit. I see bull as the trend to hold while waiting for the target price and don’t buy any yet because the its too expensive, better to wait for the bear market before buying again because that is where you make real money.

If you are going for long term then it doesnt matter whether you do get in on a pump or a dump price because you do mind off on getting profits in long term thats why it wont really be that much
of an issue but i could say that it would really hurt a bit or make you do regret on when you do make out such action which if you do able to wait a little bit then you might entered on much cheaper
price but well whats done is done then theres no thing you could do but since you've been holding for long term then it doesnt really much a big issue but if you do go for short term then you would
do your best on looking for the lowest possible price.

Of course, that's normal when investing in crypto, not everyone is hoping for the market to be bullish or bearish because some are betting in the opposite direction. The majority of the investors are happy when the market is bullish, but those who bet on short is not gonna like it, at the end of the day, we have to understand that trading and investing are betting, when one makes profit, the other will lose money.

Speculation is at peak point after the recent "show" by social media influencers, they triggered first candle of bear or bull market on charts. Generally, it is zero sum game that means the loss of bears is the profit of bull side or vice versa. Long term institutions never wait in the weekly charts and they prefer riding those wild market trends for average ROI. Bears and bulls fight on charts, watching charts will give you an idea which side has more potential, otherwise, don't waste your time unless you can predict what side of trading will pay you in the long term.

I wonder how much influence they have on the trend of Bitcoin, if there are so many people depends on those influencers then it can really trigger a trend, but I doubt on this one. Bear or bull, you can still make money but yeah it will depends on your risk appetite if you can trade very well in bear trend then you can be good, and if you know when to buy during the bull trend, that’s also a good strategy for your.

Institutional hodlers are more to say like swingers, they don't exit their hodling because small holders are running away from little fluctuations but they understand the same question of fluctuation and they are focused on the long term profit that is why the bear and bull don't matter for institutional hodlers.

And they are smart, waiting for small and average investors to sell their bitcoin at cheap price and they are going to scope it right away. Like what we could be seeing today and throughout next week, the price dip to ~$40,000, meaning most likely there are more sellers in the market right now. And then this institutions are going to take it right away and buy tons again and hold, very simply strategy for them but very effective.

Maybe because institutional holders have more money than most people, they don't have a problem with bear and bull markets. They know how to use every moment that happens to collect more coins than anyone else. If you know what to do based on the market situation and conditions, you will benefit while others will complain about missing out on that good opportunity.

But if those small traders or holders can adapt to the current situations, they will also use the moment for their benefit. In this matter, it is really important to know what to do in every situation.

In a bull market, you gain more dollars if you bought Bitcoins with dollars before it happened (read in a bear market)! In a bear market, you gain more Bitcoins if you had Bitcoins to sell for dollars when it was on top (read in a bull market)!


Actually, if you buy when it's up and sell when it's down you will realize and feel the loss of money and Bitcoins! When it comes to the entire crypto market, the current market cap is  $1,748,474,236,721 (from coinmarketcap), and while the market net worth is rising over the years, we have seen these numbers falling and rising (bull & bear periods), sometimes money is being sucked in the crypto market, the time when the market is growing... but there are moments when the money is being sucket out, simply people are cashing out and market cap is going down!

The beauty of cryptocurrencies is that these up and down periods (bull and bear) happen in a short period of time, and that makes trading so interesting and for some very profitable, especially for those with good timing!

This is because many believe that they are smarter than the market and will be able to outsmart it. Thus, they decide to sell their coins in order to buy them at a lower price, but in the end they remain outside the market, turning into third-party observers.

All investors probably think about it because it is a basic thing in crypto market. However, not all investors can implement a good strategy to deal with bullish-bearish phases in crypto. Some investors may not know when the Bullrun starts or when Bearish begins. It very depends on their own knowledge and understanding of crypto market. Those who know well about the bearish-bullish schemes, probably choose the right time to buy-sell their coins. So, they can take advantage of the two different phases in crypto market.

For a long time already, I still don't have any basis when to know if it is already a bull market or a bear market.

Just like is there any specific action on the market that you can tell it is already a bull market or bear market? I don't think so.

Another thing is some people are still claiming it is already a bear market while some are still on the bull market. Really confusion.

long term investor can relate this image to be honest because they are not basing on the situation of the market wherein if its bearish market or bullish market because both side is still an opportunity for them. And they're only one that can relate how it really works.

Bearish -  an opportunity to accumulate bitcoin while the price is making correction (to make it short adding at the dip in order to have big size of profits in the future.)

Bullish- to sell bitcoin into usdt at the particular price in the market.

True story!
I determine bullish and bearish based on the succeding  decrease or growth of the price. However, some people would really call the current price as bearish because it's still considered as a high price compared to the Bitcoin price in 2020.
Bearish and bullish perspective may differ in each person on how much timeframe he'll consider to determine what kind of market we're in.

I personally don't understand it very well either, but by the signs of price increase and price drop I can have a more or less idea of ​​when we are in the bear market and the bull market and when we are in the consolidation, when the person does not understand these two things, he runs the risk of losing money because trading in a bear market is very difficult and dangerous, and while trading in a bull market is more advantageous

If we all have this kind of thinking, we can't hear any complaints but because we all have a different mindset when it comes to market changes, this will unlikely to happen. We already have the opportunities and it keeps on knocking us but too sad that many were ignoring it while keeping those negative mindsets. Honestly, many people are not learning yet, they are getting far once seeing the market is red.

Without greediness, you'll be able to make it happen. It's easy to say buy at dip and sell at bull but when we are in the actual situation, we will be tested on how we will handle our emotions because sometimes we are weak to aim for more when we see a good price and to easily panic when we see the price is dumping. This kind of weakness we have will make us fail in the long run and this is what whales love to see.

We may already be in a bearish trend, but I'm curious how you guys will react, if we continue this downtrend and the crypto market falls across the board in the next year or two, what will you guys do? Volatility seems to be a far cry from what we were in 2017 and the last crash, but if we were bearish for 1-2 years, what would you end up doing?
I don't want to create FUD or worry about anyone, this is just a post exploring perspectives and how everyone can mentally prepare. I'm confident for the next few years, I'm personally more bullish than bearish, but I'm ready for both directions in the market

Good question, I try to answer I'll hodl unless if urgency and need money then I'll sell it. Long term investment should not be affected if the price goes crash 1-2 year, sometimes they have a target between 5 to 10 years and they have a strong mentality and the money they put in is money they can afford to lose.

Based on my understanding, bull market is actually a good time to sell at least some of your bitcoins and earn more dollars.While the bear market can actually be a great time to buy more bitcoins at low price so that you can gain more profita in the future when the prices go up again.Bullish and bearish are not good or bad. Just different.

Yep, when the market is bearish, your dollars are able to get you more Bitcoin, and it’s an opportunity that you should always try to seize. After a bull run and the price of bitcoin hitting a new ATH price, I would usually sell my coins and take profit and wait for the correction to take or for the market to become bearish and then I would start planning how to start buying more Bitcoins and HODL for another long term till there is an increase in the market again.

That has been the norms for me and I make sure that I never miss it, because if you miss out on buying when the market is bearish and low in price, the only time you would be buying would be when the market is pumping and the worst thing that would happen to you is buying when the market has already gotten to its peak and starts to plummet.

That’s just the truth. And this why the whales will always continue to have the upper hands in the market. Most of these whales are full-time investors that fully understands how the market works and they know these strategies and always utilizes it. Another thing is that they also have enough to spend in the market, they have more than enough to risk in the market, so they will always go ahead and invest at a time that a lot of people are panicking and doesn’t want to invest in the market.

Another issue that most of us do have is that we don’t have patience, and we have greed; when you’re letting these two things control the decisions that you are making in the market, then your success in the market is going to be a really difficult case.

Is this the real beauty? SOmetimes, people will only the beauty when they are looking at something good and beautiful, like the green charts on the crypto market.
But, if the red ones are ongoing every time? Ahaha, I don't think this will be also influenced as the beauty, but some people may see it as a damage.
However, I am sure that the meaning here is about the ways of how the bearish and bullish market is ongoing, following the cycle, seeing the prospects and also the news. The bearish and bullish really become the moment to wat for. Some may hate and some may love them.

That's me as well. I have been hodling for years and I held a lot longer than that before as well, I just keep holding until some emergency happens. Unfortunately since we are not ultra rich people, whenever an emergency happens we cash out our investments and that ends with something like zero in our accounts again. I just recently had that, not all of my money but like 60% of my money is gone because I had debt and I was paying it small by small and I just realized I could simply pay the debt when it was higher (sold at around 45k so I am fine) and then I could end up putting more money in thanks to my debt being gone.

Not that I wasn't capable of paying my debt in any other way, it wasn't emergency but I saw it as a great idea to get rid of interest rate and put more money back in each month. Sometimes you just have to cash out for some reason. Otherwise I just keep it going as long as possible.

What about your previous dollars that you have invested already? They are now in a loss. I think this kind of thinking limits the investors to buy at the dip but for the people that have sold successfully at highs, they do not have this problem. Newbies that haven't invested yet before are also be able to buy without a problem.

Missing the buying moment is unavoidable sometimes and we have our own reasons why we missed it but it is okay because there will always be a next time. No mate, buying at a pump is not the only way if ever you miss the dump. The people that does that are I guess do not have a patience or they are just risk takers and think that the market will continue to go up.

Thats how positive people think during bull or bear market. Because investors who understand the nature of crypto and not letting themselves to have negative thoughts even the market is down can make a bad situation turned to a good one.

It depends on how you see it, investors who used to see the unstable movement of the market are aware of whats the best thing to do depending on the market situation. Bear season has a good side and that is to buy while the price is cheap.

A wise investors has many ways how to earn a profit either in a bull or bear market. They know what's the best thing to do whatever the market situation is and that's the essence of being knowledgeable investors of cryptocurrency, it prevents you to over panic and over thinking and the best thing is that it prevents you from a huge loss ahead. We know the fundamental rule of being an investors and traders it is the "buy low, sell high", so always take a chance to see the possible ways to earn either in both season of crypto.

Patient is the key.

Once you experience the bearish market once, you'll know what to do when it strikes next. It is important to have spare fiat to survive the bearish market, for you not to be forced to sell out your coins in a very low price, or at a price where you're not satisfied. The only thing I do is I set up an alarm in my blockfolio (FTX now) so that I'll be updated even though I'm not always looking the market.
Without greediness, you'll be able to make it happen. It's easy to say buy at dip and sell at bull but when we are in the actual situation, we will be tested on how we will handle our emotions because sometimes we are weak to aim for more when we see a good price and to easily panic when we see the price is dumping. This kind of weakness we have will make us fail in the long run and this is what whales love to see.

The question is because of your patience Brilliant Activa people can make money in the market and not only lose it in panicked kidneys but currency is the most popular reason that love game that can take good and gain muscle is the gainer holding 1 bitcoin always worth 1 bit coin but BRTA calculation  Here's how to put one together for use with your website.

Yeah, and it's a very fast market, although we are talking here like 2-3 years of bear and bull run, it's very quick. I'm just talking about it with a colleague, reminiscing of a bear market and then the pandemic strike, halving and the bull run after that up to November of 2021. It's the saying, how time flies, so you better prepare yourself in both scenarios, have your trading strategy so that you will profit either short or long term.

So true, you really don't have that much time in the market specially when you do trade and keeps on investing. In the beginning though, for me it's seems like eternity. But going back and looking through it, in the last bear market, I did survived and then comes the bull run from 2020-2021 and now it seems the cycle repeats itself again as we enter a bearish trend. So I've learn some strategies that can help me still make some lunch money.

In these moments of the market, I would not know how to say that it is more feasible, because in the face of a possible war one can clearly speak of a possible bearish movement, this due to the panic that it generates in investors, since they sell a lot to protect their money, but if Does a war occur with the characteristics they have for now? which is suffocating Russia by all means of traditional economy, leaving them out of the international banking system, this tells me that the closest thing to use is BTC and crypto, which tells me that there may be an increase in demand and pr lo both the price of BTC and crypto rise, so it is a very complicated scenario, at this time I would not know what is more likely to happen.

The market is very volatile, this panic in the market cause a lot of downtrend and ruined our chance to go to the new bull trend, no we are down and yes there’s no assurance that the price will rise again but of course we have to deal with this. What you can do during bear trend is to way for the buying entry and sell when profit is already enough for you. The only thing good here is that, we have the chance for a cheaper price because in the future, its value will continue to rise now that the adoption are more possible to begin.

We've been already in the bull run since 2 years ago and it's time to realize that whether the next months would be bears or bulls, it's totally okay since we've been there already.
The market's down after coming from the ATH but still, have to recognize how far it had made from a few years ago. The chart still looks good and even if we go to a bear market, I don't think that long term holders would be worried with it.

People get mad about bear markets but what it was stated by the one starting this thread is correct, during bull markets the value in terms of fiat of your bitcoin goes up, but during the bear market that is when we should try to get as much bitcoin as possible as its price is very cheap compared to what you could see during the bull run, however most people do the opposite, they buy during the bull run and they sell during the bear market, so when we understand this it is not surprising at all to know that most people lose in the markets since their strategy is completely flawed.

For us to make money then we do really need those low prices or value which do came from huge corrections or crashes because a market couldnt be called one if it would be only having one path to take
which means that you should realize these things once you do step your foot into this market which this volatility is the main reason on why lots do really tend to engage despite of that high level
of movement which making profits is easy and attainable but of course it is more riskier which you should need to face on or realized for yourself on at least you are prepared
on what could possibly happen next.

This is why most people lose because they always misinterpret even this basic rule when trading. They always panic when bear season comes and resort into selling off, that ends up losing them more. While this bear season is a good opportunity to buy and invest more, instead it becomes a threat for them. They start buying when the price is high, when in fact its certainly a good time to sell for profits. Many people did not realize that both bulls and bears are giving us equal opportunities to make profits.

Well .. those people in panic selling are the one who stake the money that they cannot afford to lose , that is why.
That ' in a bull you gain dollars & in a bear you gain bitcoin ' will only work for those who had more spare money , people like us often get trapped and impatient to selling off.

The first rule that most people break in trading , using the money that is free to use , not borrowed nor buying on margin. U'll see the difference.

I think that sensation of buying during the tops will never change. It's not just the newbies that will get into that mistake but also those that have been here for a long time. It seems that there's a feeling of relieve of buying at the peak rather than buying and stocking up when the market is still bearish. There's that feeling that everyone is getting because they're feeling that the bear market won't be gone and that's why it's more confident to buy during the peak and not when it's totally low.

We likewise gain different tokens. Then again, not every person likes Bitcoin. There are crypto financial backers who would even prefer not to have a say in Bitcoin. However hodling won't make you lose, yet it holds no assurance either that you will continuously create gains assuming you don't do anything on your coins.

But I think majority are into bitcoin? do you agree?

Simply because it is the prime mover and it is the first one to really bring crypto to the limelight and now it's a buzz word that everyone around the world is very interested. Even in war torn countries like Ukraine and Russia, they are making bitcoin and crypto like a safe haven regardless if we are in a bear or bull market. Because the war will make their money worthless, so it's better to hedge it to crypto right now.

And that's what we call FOMO, emotions are high that some individual doesn't want to miss everything. So despite what we think is not a good idea to buy, then will get even if the price is on top. Same scenario when investors doesn't want to buy at low, and keep on thinking that the price wil still go down deep before they buy. But it usually doesn't happen as the price might climbb back again. And this could be considered as one beauty of crypto as well.

This is very true as only those who keep speculating in the market are the ones who tend to fall for losses every now and then. But if they can realize that there is nothing to fear about bear season, that's the time that they will stop committing losses.

Bears and bulls have their own beauties and that they both create opportunities but sad to say, only few realized this. But even so, as long as they stick to buy in bears and sell in bulls, i think they will never easily lose their investments. That is something that until now, hard to realized by most of the newly investors.

That's the reality. They don't take the opportunity when the price is low and the market is bleeding. Many are discouraged when that time comes because they are feeling that it won't go up soon.
But for the experienced ones, we know how this market works and it's just a matter of having your money ready to get into those cryptos that we want to have.

The majority of the people who are interested in bitcoin are into bitcoin of course, but there are so many people out there who ignore it completely. Those are the people we need to attract somehow if we want to have a good and long-term project with crypto. If not, then there are of course some people who know about bitcoin and the majority who know about it like it and use it and that’s good sign.

So, if 10% of the world knows and uses it, and 80% of them likes it, then it is a good thing, but if we could get '20+ people suddenly that would change so much and it would mean a lot of profit for the ones who are here already as well and provide a good future.

Yes, some gain from tokens while others gain from bitcoin. But the majority people that gain so much in the community are people that invested a huge amount of money on bitcoin when the price decreased to $38 few months ago in the exchange market. Many  people are still gaining from their bitcoin investment because the price of bitcoin has increased to $41 few days ago that is causing massive celebration to those that invested wisely on bitcoin some years ago.
Holding can help you to avoid losses, and it can also help you to make a good profit from your investment when you learn how to carry out your personal research before selling your coins in the market. Through your personal research you can be able to know when to sell to make gain and when not to sell in the market.

But I think there's also a successful speculator, it was like the same as an active trader that always takes risk whenever there's a small fluctuation but they can also make money from it and they won't stick with it if they know that what they are only getting are pure losses but losses are a part of this business and I don't think that a long term investor don't experience what is like to lose.

Speculators don't fear anything, that is why they did what they are doing now. If they are inexperienced, they can stick on the buy low sell high but if they are pro already they can try experimenting or try different starts like buying high and selling high. Bulls and bears are important for all whether your a speculator or a hodler.

As a long term investor, I see the BULL market as an indicator of whether it is time for me to take profit, and the BEAR market as an indicator to look for other projects and buy some major assets like BTC, ETH, BNB or TRX. and I agree with the title of this thread Bear vs Bull : The Beauty of Cryptocurrency

And understanding why this is the case is not difficult at all, most people come to this market with the idea of making a lot of money relatively quickly, so they never had any intention of investing for the long term, so as soon as the price of bitcoin begins to go down they suddenly find themselves in a scenario they were not expecting, so with each passing day in which the negative trend continues and they begin to lose money keeping their position open becomes impossible for them, until they finally panic sell and seal their fate as eternal losers in this market as their losses are so big that it is impossible for them to ever recover their money.

I just realized that both the bear market and the bull market are scenarios that the market has always encountered; as the OP indicated, we get more dollars during a bull market run and we gain more coins during a bear market run. Does this imply that patience will restore equilibrium? , because if we keep our tokens until the market regains its equilibrium.

And what makes me loved more the market is that by realizing both bulls and bears are winning and gaining opportunities. You can make the best of profits if you maximize your purchase when the bear market is here, and sell them only when the market turns into bullish. Likewise, when you gain huge profits from selling, you can start buying again and hold them for future profits.

Bear market was used by the day time traders.The investors who hold crypto for shorter period.they will earn minimum profit from it.Then they will started to buy again with the day trading.If you really want to get huge profit.Bull market is the current, Bull market will became a common one the a year The get amount you had invested.

I agree with you on this. Both the Bear and Bull are probably important when it comes to Crypto. When the prices falls, is equally a golden opportunity to purchase more of the coin, so as to make huge profits when the Bullrun eventually takes off. Also, patience is highly required in Bitcoin Investment. I mean the ability to hold your Bitcoin no matter how bad the Market might be. But, some Investors, mostly Newbie, do sells out their Bitcoin, whenever the prices goes down. Because they are afraid of losing.

The crypto market will not create a steady move, it will always go up or down, or sideways. But the best thing here is in every market condition, it always bring opportunities to buy or sell. Buy when the market is bearish, sell when its bullish. So you have nothing to lose here if you can take advantage in every market's condition. That is, if people can patiently hold their coins while the market continue to crash. Otherwise, they will start to panic once the market value keeps on falling that end up selling their coins at a loss. Success mostly comes to those people who really know how to wait. If you can't be patient, then you have no reason to stay in this type of market.

In the Cryptocurrency market, a bear and bullish situation of course a common phenomena but if you don't have bullish or bear then it would be a invaluable. So every trading, you can face Bear or bullish situation by systematically.

In my opinion, being a bull is much more profitable than being a bear.  

Why do I think so?  

In the long run, all assets increase in value.  This is because the modern financial system is inherently inflationary, not deflationary.  If you invest in the stock market, then you can buy shares of the company and incur losses.  Any company can go bankrupt.  

However, if you invest not in the shares of a particular company, but in an index, then with a high degree of probability you will make a profit.  This is due to global inflation.  

Therefore, it is much safer and more comfortable to be a trader and play for a rise than to play for a fall.  Playing short is very dangerous.

Well one of the beautiful things about the market is that it can win even when the market falls, there are many who do it and others who want to do it and have no experience and when they try to do it they lose, this is something very common and it can happen in any trader's thoughts, and considering all the things that are happening globally right now, it is likely that many are expecting a bearish movement, this if the things of the war between Ukraine and Russia escalate (we hope not) for now BTC looks good and with little chance of it continuing to rise, it's all a matter of waiting.

Yeah,i think It's a normal matter to cryptocurrency market, bear and bullish to happen. Without stable coin never be stable, i think decentralization will ever be stable.it will be pumb and dumps.Cryptocurrency bear and bullish depends on Inventor trader and holders.Now bitcoin price increase day by day and all coin price positive.

The only time it would become a full loss is when you decide to sell your coins during a bear market. If you sell your coins during a bear market and after you have lost out of your money then it becomes a problem for you because you will be losing the money, and there's no chance of you recovering it back.

But, if you are to keep on holding doing a bear market and wait for the bull run to start again ,when the bull run eventually starts you will be making profit and recovering all your losses. So, it is all about having patience and waiting for that bull run to start up again so that you will get back all that you have lost and possibly make even more profit.

seems easy because all it takes is to be patient to wait for the bull market to arrive. but this is not easy to do, because there is a psychological burden that will whisper in our ears to sell it. There are many incidents like this, especially for novice investors, they are afraid because the value of their assets has decreased so much that they want to sell them immediately so that the loss will not be even greater. and this is the full responsibility of the individual, don't blame the market for our own mistakes

Yes and we should be enjoying it rather than making arguments about it. I mean I have seen people going crazy when the market is bear and bull. They all are arguing about it when it’s bear then they go crazy about it, they lost the money, they are not expecting the market this way etc etc. When they are seeing the market in bull then they are like they wish they would made the decision to buy more coins. I think what you have represented here is best illustration on how to enjoy best of both worlds.

The market is usually hard to predict. You can't really tell when there's going to be a bull run or when there's going to be a bearish trend. There have been so many times when experts who predicts that there will be a bull run and when that time as they predicted reaches, it happens that there wouldn't be any bulls at all.

But, the best move you can make is to invest when the market is bearish just like it is right now. If you are to invest now you can then decide to wait for as long as it will take for the bulls to arrive. Some people would invest during a bearish trend and make plans to hold their bitcoin for as long as 5 years because they know that longer-term investments are usually worth it.

After the next halving we are aware that there would be a bull run, as for now we are not really sure about it because we have already seen a bull run and the market has also reached an all-time high price before being corrected.

No matter what side we are talking neither bear or bull, people would be still have something to say about it which is really a common behavior.Come to think that these
movements are the main factors on why we do really make profits if we done it right but if not then we lost money as simple as that.
Expect that there would be argumentations in regarding to this which is common or normal so deal or bare with it.

Personally i happy when bear market come because its chance to collect strong and high potential coins very cheap. Put a glance on the previous bear market . Dot was down to 14$, ADA 0.8$, Eth 2600$ and now look the price of these coins. Market will never remain bullish forever nor bear. Buy in bear and sell in bullish .

I quite often monitor the movement of these two coins: BEAR vs BULL, maybe I have been trading crypto for almost five months, but there is a difference if I compare the two cryptos.
• BEAR, you can say the opposite coin, if Bitcoin goes down it's the other way around, but as long as I trade on BEAR there is no opposite impact, only 1% change when Bitcoin drops to 5%, BEAR doesn't seem suitable for short term trading.
• BULL, also the opposite crypto, but here the BULL has a big sign that it can be traded in the short term, today the position is at the level of $3215, from last week it fell to the level of $ 2200, in my opinion BULL crypto is worth trading for the short term, the development is quite fast.

An unstable market is certainly an opportunity for profit, it's never too late to start because anything can happen, if we buy bitcoin at the moment at around $47k it might look expensive, but if one day the price skyrockets to $50k then we get profit even if we buy at a high price.

Exactly, those that prepared well to hold their coin during bear market are the ones enjoying the bulling right  now while  those that release their coins for sale during the bear market are the ones regretting because they don't knew that the crypto price will increase to this level. People must always complain or argue for their failure because when professional investors are buying coins and hold for a better future to come, others will be waiting for the price to decrease more for them to buy which the price will never come down to their wish than to increase higher to cause them regret in the future.

The basic concept of cryptocurrencies is decentralization so that up and down prices are normal, no matter how big the crypto marketcap is, the opportunity to go up or down tens of percent is easy, for example bitcoin which is currently around $900 billion, has gone up more than 12% in recent years. a day this year, but also dropped 10% a few days ago.

What I mean by cryptocurrency market is what kind of MG market is a normal thing here. It is better to be here and forget it. Stable currency.  Some time will be seen here

I'd feel the sentiment why some people can't hold long and they just sold it even the price isn't reaching yet to the ATH. I'm pointing out those poor people as even how much we encourage them to just hold, that is certainly hard for them. And I really don't think to raise complaints because of our failure to hold is reasonable and even these poor people can't, it was a matter of choice and we choose the option which we think it was best and righteous.

Yes we only lose when we panic sell, if we don't sell we still haven't lost anything. Instead of panicking when the bears come, see it as an opportunity to increase the number of coins cheaply and just hold until the bullish. Just be patient and we will survive in this market whether it is bear season or bull season.

We only need to be patient when it comes to the bear market, but during the bull season, we have to pull the trigger, otherwise, we will miss the opportunity to sell if we keep thinking of more because our greediness will lead us to failure in investing. What I'm trying to emphasize is that, if you have a game plan, play it well by following the plan, not changing it because you are affected by your emotion.

 *Some people buy during the bear season and sell during the bullish market - profit (real investors could wait and have patience, and they know what to do next after buying)
 *Some people buy during the surge and then sell during the corrections - losses( it was because they are worried and impatient)

We never Loss if we take the right choice and simply follow according to our plan. Many investors simply just think for a profit right away, not even know how to hold that is why if they saw a market correction, selling is usually coming out from their mind.

I think the better term is "smart investors" - those who buy in the dip, keep it in their wallet, secure and continue to accumulate throughout the bear market and then sell in the bull run to make a huge returns.


True, but there are investors who doesn't understand how to play in the market because of inexperience. But they have to build it from ground up and learn everything and become a smart investors themselves in the next bear-bull market run.

Keep hold and don't let yourself get FUD, but that patience is really hard to do because many of us don't prepare for a bear market happening. We also need to use our cold money so that emotions can be minimized to the lowest rather than using hot money you will get stressed when seeing the market right now.

Don't know, probably, but I've always seen the term smart investors as a sort of banking marketing term for people who're too rich to be actually making any real decisions themselves, and just leaving it to someone else they've paid to make decisions for them.

If DCA is the smart investor thing to do in Bitcoin, then I guess that makes me smart? Until the time it doesn't work (hopefully never).

Brokers are getting a bit more micromanagement these days so that they could keep getting paid. There is a whole financial world where people give their money to someone and hope that it would grow. This is a trillion dollar market really and people with billions invest their money with these people and expect a good return.

Unfortunately, that is not something that can go on forever, eventually people lose, and those investors gets mad about it as well. I have to say it is not really a big deal to invest your own money, you can do it and retail investors started to see that which means brokers need to come up with marketing terms like "smart investor" to gain attention.

Mostly it was the bear season that needs a patience because this is the season that can last longer. This is the season where holders can temporarily lost their money and they are wishing that the bear will pass soon because they can't take it anymore but to some that are still in the buying phase, they can wish for the bear season to last so that they can accumulate more coins.

Bull on the other hand does not need a patience but in fact all of us wants it to stay longer because this is the only time that we can sold our coins for profit. A plan is a must to follow but I think it's also better to have a separate plan. We can follow it in case the market moves in an unexpected direction.

There are some realities out there where you have to accept that when the price goes down there is bloodshed in the market then there are no big opportunities from here.  Here's a look at the experience that we don't know how the market works, and I guess you'll always have money to enter when we see where we want to go.

Not really sure what you're getting at here but anyway, of course the way the whole financial system is built is unsustainable. That's been a big big problem from the 1970s, or even before if you want to go all the way back to stock markets.

And honestly speaking the way crypto is going, markets are exactly like traditional assets. Defi is a bit different but very very very small market with very few participants and still in the end run not with true decentralization and even more incidence of fraud and scam.

So I still think there's no "smart investor". Just lucky investors or very very rich investors.

That is mainly because if you can do whatever you want from robinhood, coinbase, etoro and so forth then what it is the point of keep doing what you are doing with some broker in Manhattan? Is there like a point to it? You are paying high fee to use them as well, whereas these places charge very tiny compared to those places.

This is why they dislike crypto, this is why they dislike those companies, and attack them. If crypto and other places get the better of Manhattan and those wall street guys, then we are definitely going to see bigger and bigger companies fall. We all remember how even just one subreddit almost took out a huge hedge fund, that could become more common.

For the bulls market it all depends on what you are really after. If you’re the type of person that always sets a target of what you want to achieve, during the bull market you can wait for you to achieve that target and once you have gotten the target you can then decide to sell it.

There are also people who decides that it is best for them to have patience because they never know whether the market has reached its peak. Although sometimes I do see those who wait for the peak as greed, because some of them wants to gain everything possible and at the end they might be the ones who miss out and continue to hold after the market has reached its peak price and plummets.

It can go both ways, either good or bad. What matters the most is how you prepare yourself or the kind of plan that you have made before investing in the market. Some people are fond of investing too much more than they can handle when the market starts to dip. And in that case you might be in a position where you are in need of the money that you have invested in the market.

You would have no other alternative than to sell when the market is bearish and that means you have lost your money for good. So, the bearish trend can affect some people negatively. It is only good when you invest more than you can afford to risk and if the market starts becoming bearish you can then have enough money to also buy more coins.

that's the art of trading in the cryptocurrency market, we play with ourselves to dare to decide and not regret the decision. but the most important is what kind of style we are comfortable with. this only we ourselves know. just like there are people who have the type of waiting until the peak price occurs and selling it, of course they know when to leave the market, in contrast to greedy people who don't know when to let go and eventually the price goes back down, so regret appears

There are so many types of people who think positively about investors that they think negatively about the stingy nature and even the market conditions. It depends on the market conditions. They know the best things.  They buy

If we look at the projects from here, what we can see here is that these projects are going on at their own will and the point to understand here is that we can accurately predict if we look here we can see what the market movement will be, if we do research on specific currencies.  So we have to deal with a lot of problems here, so we have to keep in mind the goal that is set here with humility and we have to understand our concept and always keep in mind how to keep pace with the monkeys.

Selling when it is bearish is an inappropriate action if you do not have any preparation.
So this is where the need to do capital management before investing. Capital management will regulate how you buy a coin with a certain amount according to the specified strategy, if the market continues to fall then there will be spare money that can be used. This will certainly maintain the investment capital. Whatever you have, if there is no good management, everything will end in losses.

It is good when the market can be more or less predicted. This is another good option. But it's hard to predict right now.

Sometimes trading is like art, if we do everything right, then trading will produce something beautiful. Therefore, trading is not an activity that
can be done arbitrarily without proper preparation. Only people who are knowledgeable about the crypto world, know what to do in order to make
a profit from trading crypto. The more mature our preparation, the closer we are to success. So for us to have preparation we must be willing
to learn all things about the crypto world. So basic things like determining which coins are good for trading, then knowing when to enter and exit
the market. Basic things like that if we understand and run well, it will not make us regret the decisions we take when trading. So people who
understand how the crypto world works, always have good preparation and planning in dealing with bear and bull markets.

Its never been easy to predict because once you had stepped your foot into this market then be prepared on battling about unpredictable price and this is what make things hard but also the main
recipe on why we do make profits in a short span of time.If you do know on how to go with the flow then you are really on that advantage but of course this state isnt something that someone could
easily able to attain because experience would be the key and the thing which you do really need for you to sustain into this market.Just dont hurry and make yourself do able to learn along the
way and you would find it out.

some investors bet all their money into market and even didnt hold fiat money or stable coin that may used when market crash and in dip so get lower price. thinking market will move only in one direction , up only , was be main factor that make us failed in crypto market. we didnt prepare if market  move in two direction only in seconds, just like happen previously.

The advantage of cryptocurrency is that it is in this part of the market that it is easier for me to make a forecast. At least so far during the work.

In fact, right now I don't have a good understanding of the market, maybe because of what is currently happening in the world, the war, covid-19, I don't know how to determine the movements of the market, but I think that if the market goes down price it is good to continue buying, taking into account the premise that the last aath was for almost $70k the whales do not let the price drop much, this means that if we buy right now it is not a bad idea, of course this is just my thoughts, but looking at the chart I sense that.