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Previously the fight was planned Kambosos will fight with Lomachenko, but due to Russian invasion, Loma cancelled the fight and he will stay in Ukraine to defend his country. The vacant slot got substituted by Devin Haney, which holding lightweight WBC title. This is the last title that Kambosos need to become undisputed champion in lightweight, after he made a biggest upset last year against Lopez. If Kambosos won against Haney, it will be smooth career for Kambosos, he might move to the next weight since he don't need to fight with Tank.

This fight will take place at Marvel Stadium in Melbourne, Australia on June 5, 2022.

There's no official odds yet but obviously Kambosos will be favorited with +190 while Haney will become an underdog with -220

The official odds already available, in some bookies the odds for Kambosos is 2.42x as underdog, while the odds for Haney is 1.52x as favorited.

Source:
https://www.espn.com/boxing/story/_/id/33609716/sources-george-kambosos-devin-haney-agree-june-undisputed-lightweight-title-fight
https://www.oddscritic.com/sports-betting-news/kambosos-vs-haney-odds/

Yes, it was supposedly Loma, but Loma is in Ukraine right now, doing time to served in military, so God bless him.

I'm not surprised that the odds are in favor of Kambosos, I mean he knock down Teo Lopez and then just beat his ass hands down. Haney though is technical fighter and has no knock out power. So I guess maybe Lopez will just walk in make it a fight and make Haney very uncomfortable early. So Kambosos for me, by UD or if he gets lucky, he can knock out Haney.

Not sure what you meant by Kambosos don't need to fight Tank after this. I guess if his body can't squeeze to 135 lbs, then definitely he can move up. But let's see.

As far as this fight goes, the pressure is on Kambosos, to show that his win against Kambosos is no fluke. And against a tactical fighter as Haney, it could be a different strategy and if he fights Haney's fight, then maybe we can see some upset.

@Kemarit. However, I speculate that @bisdak or @Boafeng might be surprised on why George Kambosos is the favorite considering that Teofimo Lopez jr. is the only big name in his record. There were speculations that Lopez had problems in his preparation against Kambosos. Also, Haney might be very fast for Kambosos and Haney would not have a similar style like Lopez where he will fight power with his own power. Haney might take this to 12 rounds and win with a unanimous decision.

^ Kambosos and Haney are two world class fighter. I'd actually think its going to be quick fight and this I could say the mafia will be confuse who they'd want to win. Too much risk so its better to just let them fight with all they could give. Both could shut one another in first round.


Oh too bad, hope Loma gets out alive there. Jesus its not boxing ring that he is into.

If Kambosos vs Devin bets in the ring this time, I think it's a suitable opponent from their age, they are both relatively young, Kambosos (28 years) and Devin (23 years), Despite being 6 years apart from Devin, what is debated and questioned by boxing gambling addicts is the career they have, very different where Devin at the age of 23 already has a record 27 - 0 - 0
(15 KOs), while Kambosos at the age of 28 has a record of 20 - 0 - 0 (10 KOs).

In the boxing arena between Kambosos vs Devin I am more confident for Devin to do his best next June 5th, in the ring, even though Kambosos is known as an undefeated boxer and won several trophies such as: WBO, WBA, WBC and so on, they can both be said to be professional boxers, but those whose names are bets must have one of them.

Another good match for the talent laden 135 lbs. We also have the come backing Ryan Garcia here so it will be again a lot of good match between the 4-5 fighters. But the man at this point is George Kambosos he has most of the belt right now because of his huge upset of Teofimo Lopez.

But in this fight, for sure he will be tested by Devin Haney. I'm speculating that this is going to full distance because of Haney's trying to play defense at the same time being the technical. But I will still go with George, base on his last performance against Lopez, he is a well rounded boxer. He can go fight toe to toe and then maybe play technical against a technical fighter in Haney.

I think it will be awesome if Kambosos will face Loma in this fight. This will be huge as Loma will have the chance to get back the belts that Kambosos has taken from him. I do hope though that he will be given an exception, just like Usyk by the military to go and fight and bring honor for their country outside like in boxing. But it seems that is not going to happen so Plan B for Kambosos, now he has to face another champion in the division. Although he is the weakest amongst them, I think this will still be a good fight for Kambosos again.

Yeah, it would be great to see the match between Loma and george but sadly it won't happen anytime soon.  But well, who knows maybe this fight (Kambosos vs. Haney) might give us a better fight.  They are both undisputed champions so I think they will do their best to protect their record.

Considering that Haney is a technical fighter and has lesser power between the two, Haney might stay as a defensive player, this fight may probably end up in a scorecard.

You forgot to create a poll on this fight I'm not sure if the community will vote in favor of Kambosos we all know Haney is a technically good boxer he may not be a hard puncher but he fought intelligently and always get a win, he is the kind of boxer that can land a punch and duck a punch, hs ring generalship is way better than Kambosos, so I'm sure the community is divided on this.

Great fight for this year, of course, Haney will be listed as the favorite but I like Kambasos because he has a heart of a real warrior. I'm pretty sure that he will not back down, he would do the same damage as he did against Teofimo Lopez and we will again see an upset here.

This is a big challenge for Haney, he should not underestimate Kambasos who are coming from a big win.

I have seen Kambosos on hard training right now, he wants to impress because he is fighting in his native land Australia, he doesn't want to fail his country and prove to everybody that his winning against Lopez is not a fluke, this is going to be a technical fight as both fighters do not posses one punch knock out power, Haney will win this fight because of his better skill in the ring.

I love Kambosos, he really wants to prove to the boxing world that he is not afraid to lose his belt, in fact, he wants to get more belts by fighting a champion. Devin Haney is more popular than him, and looking at the record comparison, we already who is better, but let's see how Kambasos will handle a tougher champion this time.

Most likely, but we can always see an upset because Kambosos is not going to allow himself to be beaten easily in front of the crowd. Maybe Haney is the favorite but knowing how Kambasos beat Lopez, I wouldn't be surprised if he also wins here.

I did not knew that Lomachenko was actually serving his country, quite honestly while he is without a doubt a brave man to do this I think he would do a lot more good if he was above the ring obtaining a victory, that would not change what is happening at Ukraine but it could help lift the spirits of those that are fighting for their country, so in a way it would be more useful, and about the fight, Kambosos gave a good exhibition against Lopez so it is not odd to see him as the favorite against Haney, still I think Haney may have a chance as I am not so sure Kambosos will be able to repeat the excellent performance he showed that day against Lopez.

George Kambosos career has been expected to fight great boxers in his era since he managed to defeat Teofimo "The Takeover" Lopez via Unanimous decision and he also managed to knock down Lopez in the 1st quarter, that's why he is now fighting Devin Haney in exchange for Loma as he cannot fight now when his country is at war.

Now, Kambosos's career will be tested by Haney and I doubt that he will have a smooth win on this because the latter is also a good technical fighter and an upset might be possible even though Kambosos is the heavy favorite.

This is a very interesting fight we all know that a boxer is judged based on his last fight and Kambosos has a better fight last time but I don't think he is a better all-around fighter, Haney is such a good technical fighter a fighter who can hit you and avoid your best punches he is almost a perfect fighter minus that big punch, but they say in boxing, you cannot beat what you can't hit, so let's see who's the better between the two, I'd like to see the two on their first face to face.

I mean Tank and Haney are the champion in lightweight title, Tank have WBA title and Haney WBC title. Kambosos already having WBA title, WBC is the last title he need to achieve in this weight... so Kambosos didn't to fight with Tank.

I can't say Haney is the weakest amongst them, he is good technical boxer and he is still young (23 years old). He might become a monster when he hit 30 years old, so if he lose in this fight it doesn't really hurt him.

Noted, I tend to agree since Haney isn't huge underdog here, so everyone know upset could happen.

I don't think that Haney is faster that Lopez though, So it's possible that Kambosos can beat Haney to the punch. But for sure Haney will think that he is faster than Kambosos, and maybe it is going to be a big mistaken on this fight. Let's see, two different contrasting style again, I'm seeing otherwise though, Kambosos might win in this fight.

I don't know why Haney is the huge underdog he has proven himself and has been dominating the lightweight division, Kambosos is a great fighter but I still consider Haney the best lightweight champion even better than Ryan Garcia, the boxing community saw a big motivation for Kambosos because it will be held in Australia and we all know what happened to Pacquiao when he fought there, but we have a fighter here in Haney who can overcome all odds I precited he will beat Kambosos hopefully by knock out because we all know home town decision can have an impact here.

Its usually what will happen when fights will be done in the country of one boxer. Sometimes a referee or a judge will be bias. Two undisputed.champions fighting can be hard to foresee whom to out your money on. But if the fight is in the country of one, you can expect a bias.

With Haney's experience versus Kambosos, you can be sure to look at Haney to be more versatile. And is the underdog? They definitely degraded him already even the fight hasnt started yet

Being labeled as an underdog is just a term to determine which one is better to bet because normally the favorites are there basis but on this one, but being an underdog doesn't coincide the strength and power of the boxer beholds. You'd be careful where to bet because Haney here is more versatile than Kambosos, he is just lucky because the fight will be hosted in his own home soil.

Kambosos was my favourite player of this players.He ambitious towards getting of belt was huge,he keep on trying to play many matches to win the game.He keep on changing his fighting style on all new matches.But it’s different one to do this.When the strategy was changed on every game means,he was updating his game improve the more for winning new matches.

Well it's obvious that he needs to adjust to every fighter that he will have to face. Against Lopez, he needs to show who is the bigger guy and the aggressor and who has the punching power.

But against a technical fighter such as Haney, it will be very different strategy for him. As much as we want him to go inside and make the fight toe to toe, it won't be that way because Haney will play defense so he has to find against plan of attack.

Defensively Haney is very good he can hit you but it's so hard to hit him and he knows how to use the ring effectively, they have the same style actually but Haney has been to a lot of battles he is always dominating the fight and he never underestimates any opponents, Kambosos will have to train harder because it's going to be a lot of running in this fight and he must get a sparring partner who moves like Haney, a technically sound boxer.

Indeed because the man is so versatile on the ring and the fact that he is continually learning every after defeating his each opponents makes him one of the few boxers especially on his division. Being in a defensive mode is one of Haney's best skills as like you said that he can still hit his opponents even he is in that said state, so if Kambosos would really become aggressive on him then I think he should reconsider his approach.

Ok, watch this press conference to announce the fight:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DhEbVTqBGu0

As you can see there's already a heated argument between the two, hehehe. Yeah, and this is going to be a war, winner becoming the undisputed champion.

They are not physically close to each other but obviously, they don't like each, both are very used to this they used to have heated arguments against their respected nemesis, Kambosos against Lopez and Haney against Garcia, this has the making of a great fight much better than their previous fights, I'm excited for them to face each other physically and see their reaction, this is a good start we'll see more coming.

That would make this fight very exciting to watch. Kambosos needs to collect one belt only to become an undisputed champion but Devin Haney is sure a tough opponent and he should stay focused like what he said in the conference. Kambosos looks so confident, I like that, it means he believes in himself that he can beat Haney although I think Haney is the favorite to win.

Kambosos has always been confident he has come a long way from being Pacquiao's favorite sparring partner, he only needs one title to become the undisputed Lightweight champion it comes too soon for him last year I thought Ryan Garcia will unite all the lightweight belts but it's Lopez and now Kambosos or Haney will have a chance to unite all the belts in the lightweight division.

It will be an easier way for Kambosos to gain another title in case he'll win this fight but I'm sure that Devin Haney will do everything to defend his title so it will surely be a tough match. If we'll look at Haney's previous fights we could see how aggressive he is and that's something that Kambosos should be ready for.

I thought so too, but this time Kambosos and Haney have that chance to unify all the belts in this division. Although, Kambosos surely knows that this wouldn't be an easy path for him to take as Haney is also a tough one and will do everything he can to defend his title. Let's brace ourselves because this will be a tight fight, 2 more months to go!

Would be nice if the OP will also include a poll for this thread.
So we know what is the pulse of forum users or should I say, gamblers.  ;)
We are witnessing worthwhile matches these days. Seems that exhibition fights are already over.
Couple of months will be fast, so high likely that both boxers are already preparing even before this announcement.

If we will make a comparison between both fighter of course its very obvious that kamboss has big advantage on this match since he has good history especially when it comes KO unlike hanley which seems not a power puncher. but still unpredictable IMO because hanley is a brilliant fighter and for sure once he knew already what's the pattern of his opponent he will take that opportunity to end the fight..

Not yet late to include a poll, this is a fight where boxing fans here in Bitcointalk will be divided as both fighters are undefeated, champion, and most of all hungry, I like both of them very confident in the build of the fight, this is what defines good match up Champion against Champion, undefeated against undefeated, both fighters are taking a huge risk.

I admire Kambosos he should have taken a light fighter to fight to extend and fully enjoy his belts but he opted to go for unification right away by fighting Haney, he learned a lot from Pacquiao, that to be the best you have to fight the best.

I salute the spirit given by kambosos to loma who is defending his country (Ukraine). I'm really looking forward to their (kambosos vs loma) fight again (whether it will be this year or next year). This match is a big thing for Kambosos or Haney, Kambosos ambition to get 4 titles is undeniable while Haney still wants to defend his title and also asks for recognition for the title he got.

He's only popular and too much hype about him, while he doesn't even have any world title after fought 21 times. I feel he already enough about his populary and hype, so he wouldn't want to be a challenger to get a title. If Haney win this fight, it must be very unbelievable...

Yep you're right, toe to toe isn't good to fight with Haney, run and distance strategy are good for Kambosos.

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Anyway I have created the poll, go vote which boxer you think will win in this match!

Kambosos is a young fighter who can easily adapt to the boxing skill of his opponent and he can counter him with power punches once he can take his punches. After all, Haney is not known for knocking his opponent that much and that would be a great opportunity for Kambosos since Haney hasn't won by KO in his last 4 fights. I think he can beat him in the early rounds since boxers like Hanny are known to avoid power punches and get some clean points by countering their opponents which will be hard for Kambosos if the fight will reach the officials decision.

It's good that we have a poll right now the first time I comment there was none I'm the first voter and I voted Haney for this fight but I do have huge respect for Kambosos because of what he achieved in just a short period of time, but Haney knows so much about ring generalship he is a modern-day Mayweather, very technical, this is going to be close and I'm sure Kambosos will be highly motivated because he is going to fight in his native Australia.

And now, makes us 2. I, on the other hand, voted for Kambosos.  ;D If Haney is the modern-day Mayweather, then, Kambosos should really be more aggressive here. We all know the style of Mayweather and a lot don't like it because of a boring one. I hope they will fight toe-to-toe and not be too technical about it. The title deserve a very good fighter and not a dull one.

George is good at taking out the strong points of his opponent and so is Haney. But it seems that Kambosos is prepared for what Haney will offer in this fight. Haney doesn't is not a good puncher, no power behind it at this weight class but he cover it with his technical abilities. On the other hand, George has the power, it was evident in the Teo Lopez fight. For me Lopez is one of the biggest puncher in this division but George was able to take that out from Lopez and then he himself dishes out one of the worst to a champion in this division. And now that he has the belt, everyone will go for his head including Haney but I think Kambosos will win this fight.

All the titles are on the line so we need a very good fight, I believe these two will deliver a good fight not to impress the judges but for a claim to be the best fighter in the division, both fighters are not power punchers but Haney's chin is a suspect here let's see how Kambosos will exploit that weakness, both fighters are good at running and counter-punching but on this fight, Haney will do the running as he has to protect his chin.

We have 3 pages in this thread and only 4 voters. There is only 1 voter for Kambosos and there are 3 votes for Davin Haney. I might have influenced those 3 visitors during the discussions hehe. Do not listen to me, listen to the experts @bisdak and @Boafeng. I am only speculating that Haney might be underestimated hehehe.

I do believe Haney has lot of chance to win. But I'm not going to be surprise if Haney loses thru the bias judge. I'd be more convince if the referee is using an ear piece during the fight.

I would rate them to be a perfect match both have their strength to knockout. Haney could even be more technical but my take is its going to be beyond their boxing skills when the venue is to consider.

^^ Yeah, this is the possibility, we know how they robbed Pacman before and this could happen to Haney as well. So Haney should watch out about it and should be wary that the judges might be biased. The best thing for his is to score a knock out so that the judges are not going to be involved. Used his technical skills and make Kambosos not comfortable, this is the only way that Haney will win in this fight, knock out total control of the fight.

I don't know how it becomes obvious, Haney has never been underestimated in any of his fights he always comes out fresh and dominant, sure he is fighting a guy who beats the man, but that's a different scene back then, Lopez is underestimating Kambosos, it's unlikely that Haney is going to do that to Kambosos, he will come prepared and will do what he does best, I expect Haney to win by decision.

I don't doubt about Haney's skills and IMO he have the higher hand than Kambosos Jr. here, however I think that he will have a hard to time trying to figure out a way to knockout Kambosos and judging his 5 recent fights (4 of it was a UD and 1 RTD) he doesn't have that much ability to finish this Kambosos with a KO and his KO rate says it all. I'm afraid it would reach into a decision again, but yes he really need to be wary of getting robbed and he just have to use his reach advantage against the latter while trying to pull a knockout, we don't know maybe he can.

 

Devin Haney also appears to be more faster in the ring, I reckon. We also have witnessed that George Kambosos wants an opponent who would be in front of him and box, very much similar to Teofimo Lopez. However, Haney will not be this fighter. This will certainly be a much harder fight for Kambosos.

Also, @Jawhead999. Kambosos is not favorited for the fight, he is underdogged hehehe.

It will be a good fight no doubt about that since those two can surprise each other by actually showcasing their boxing skills in the ring. This will be the most exciting fight this year in that weight division because both are strong and champions especially since these guys haven't been lost in their professional careers as a boxer.

I'm just talking about the possibilities here, if he wanted not to have the judges involved in the scoring and if he believes that there could be home town decision that will not be in his favor, he better try to score a knock out in this fight. Or if that is not possible because he doesn't have a good knock out percentage then he has to look from his arsenal on how he is going to upset George at this home court.

The judges decision may be in favor of the hometown fighter because it is common knowledge that everyone knows, if Haney does not dominate during the fight it will be a bad decision from the judge, it is better for him to put all his strength into attacking every round to look for KO opportunities, if the fight ends KO then it is a fair decision in the opponent's hometown.

We must remember that the odds given by the casino are not only the probabilities of one fighter beating the other, casinos also need to take into account how people perceive the fighters, it is not rare to find instances in which the casinos gave odds that made one person or team the favorite, and then the odds make a turn around and then they become the underdogs as the majority of the gamblers made bets for the other person or team to win, I think that after the exhibition against Lopez gamblers were so impressed by him that Kambosos would have been the favorite against almost any fighter, however this means making a bet for Haney to win seems like a good idea right now.

@Jawhead999, sorry guys but I think you misunderstood the betting odds.

+190 is the underdog, while  -220 is the favorite, which means Haney is the favorite to win not Kambasos Jr.

another reference ;https://bettinginsiderjournal.com/boxing/devin-haney-vs-george-kambosos-odds/

I think boxers know that already, if they have to travel to their opponents home court, they better bring their A-game because they know it will be very hard to win unless they scored a knock out. But there is a big question here, Haney is not known to have a great power so I'm not sure how he will achieved that. He is known to be a technical and skilled fighter though, and this is his bread and butter so he should make use of it against Kambosos and see if judges will favor him or not.

I'm sure he already understands his chances, so he will work his ass and try to find a way to KO Kambasos. Of his 27 wins, only 15 of them are coming from KO, and we all know how strong Kambasos is as even against Lopez, he was able to take the hard punches of Lopez.

@Hypnosis00, that's correct mate.

The Horn - Pacquiao is a bad example of a hometown decision the boxing world does not want to see another scandal like that and Kamboso doesn't want to win that way, I'm sure Haney is fully aware of that and he doesn't want the fight to be close, because if the fight is close, the judges can justify a home town decision, so Haney should be decisive and dominant on his performance, not an easy task but he is capable.

This is going to be a very close and interesting fight. The odds in the OP were not anymore the kind of odds that we can see in sportsbooks. If those were the initial odds released by the bookmakers, those are definitely not the ones that would be shown after money is flowing into sports betting sites. The OP shows a favorite Kambosos but the betting sites are now showing a significantly underdog Kambosos.

I am betting for Kambosos on this one, despite him being the underdog. This is probably going to be a battle of points. I admire Haney. He is a champ. He knows how to throw perfect jabs that would maintain the distance. But I'm hoping Kambosos would slow down Haney with his counters.

Thanks for correcting me, appreciate it.

To be honest I'm surprised Kambosos become an underdog while he have four titles, while Haney become favorited only with one title. I remembered after Lopez won over Loma, he don't want to fight with Haney, instead he choose Kambosos. Perhaps Lopez think it's easy win for him, but the truth isn't. History is repeating, Lopez take over all titles from Loma, Kambosos take over all titles from Lopez, and now it Haney may take over all the titles from Kambosos.

I think the consistently Haney defending his belt for four times is the reason why he's become favorited here.

^^ This is the first time that he will defend his belt and sport bookies might have taken that into consideration that's why he is not the underdog.

However, it might be a good bet for Kambosos fans, maybe he is hype or his win against Teo is just fluke. Nevertheless, it seems that fires have been shot already, they have started their trash talking and George thrives in this environment so let see how it goes for bettors here.

I think both fighters are risking their belt/s in this fight, whoever wins this fight will become the undisputed champion, so it is really a big fight that we should not miss. Kambasos came from an impressive win, impressive because he was the underdog, but we know Haney's previous fight was just easy for him, so let's see if Kambasos will become a problem on him.

Definitely, all the belts are on the line here, unification fight so everyone is tune in here including Ryan Garcia, Davis or even Teo Lopez (although there is news that he will be going up to 140).

The last fighter that gave Haney a hard fight is Linares, a former champion, and Haney almost went down on that fight on the later rounds if my memory serves me right. But he won thru majority decision.

Pacman seemed to have really been robbed a win. In this case though, I think it'll be a fair fight. Both are on their prime and are expected to deliver what the fans are looking for. Still, seeing a knock out would be amazing! But maybe not on early rounds. I love the thrill of watching great fighters fighting it out and outwitting each other with their unique styles 😁👊.

I think you are right, I remember it now and I guess I'll watch the highlights again. Haney is just a very technical fighter, unlike Teofimo Lopez when he fought Kambasos, he was thinking of knocking him down, so he lose his focus early in the game.

I hope it will not happen again, otherwise, the boxing organization might think of banning fights in that country if they see that there's an obvious robbery. We cannot prevent people from thinking that way if Haney would lose via decision as they can always connect it to what happen in the Pacman vs Horn fight, so let's hope that we will see a clean fight.

Haney knows it's possible to happen again, so I'm sure his plans includes knocking out Kambasos so there's no more controversy in the fight and he will be declared a clear winner. This is a hard fight for Haney as he is outside US, so he has to train hard as Kambasos is not an easy opponent to crack.

The question is if he can knock out Kambasos.. Not a good reputation for the country to host a boxing event if they will do the same they did to Pacman. Maybe this time it will not happen again as the world is watching closely and they might be banned or sanctioned by the organization, and they don't want that to happen that big boxing events will be banned in this country.


Exactly, but he has to train hard if he wants to win. That's the only way to beat Kambasos who is also a very disciplined fighter.

I bet that the Australia is already in the industry's hotlist because of what happened last time with Manny Pacquiao, this time they will look further and make sure that these issues won't happen again in the future because this is also a big fight that many people have been waiting to happen.

And for Haney, it might be best to do his best to crack Kambosos down before the scores will reach to the judges and let them decide. Having a knockout victory is sure cannot be robbed. We know that Haney will also struggle as he is not a knockout stylist but he have to do it even if it's not easy.

These two fighters are very tough and have good skills in boxing their strategy is a very good but still the deadliest moves in boxing. Kevin haney ill put my bet to him if this fight will come cause I know he can win against his opponent.  But still we can not predict the outcome so its better to stay tune and see to any updates prom the facilitator.

Well,  Australia will be in the hotlist more if this event will turn out bad. Why? George Kambosos is from Australia himself and the event place is in his favors. I think issues will arise once the fight would be rigged knowing that it will happen on George's country. Devin Haney is a great fighter with have more K/O% than Kambosos but many would really anticipate Kambosos to win with his recent fights is mostly by Knocked outs compared to Haney that mostly wins unanimously. Still, if Haney managed to make use of Kambosos energy and aggressiveness against him, he still can win.

Correct! The whole industry and the fans around the world will watch this fight closely with hopes that this time there's no issue like that will arise in this fight, I think Australia knows that and I bet they wouldn't do such thing now because if they pull that technique once more then it's over for them. No more fights that will happen in the said country.

It's much better to watch a fair fight because these two boxers are good, and both of them have the same capabilities.

We have a very interesting poll here it's a very close poll still early to speculate who will be the favorite of the community to win the poll, they are not yet doing a face to face but in their interview, they despise each other and claim that they can deliver a knock out against the other, things will become interesting when they are both physically present in their interviews and do a face-off.

George Kambosos   - 5 (41.7%)
Devin Haney   - 7 (58.3%)
Total Voters: 12

Kambosos, who is a unifield lightweight world champion, probably has an edge on this event because the fight will be held in his country of origination. And seeing how he manifested his great boxing skills in the ring, that makes him very capable to win over Haney and make him the undisputed lightweight champion. Definitely a great and exciting fight that we should not miss.

Honestly, the only advantage of Kambosos here is that he is fighting in his country, but in terms of skills, I would always go for Haney to win the fight. But who knows right? maybe Kambasos could pull an upset like what he did on Lopez.

here's the odds of the previous fight of Kambasos.

https://bookies.com/picks/teofimo-lopez-vs-george-kambosos-jr-odds-complete-betting-guide

Kambosos really have the power punch. He can beat Haney even outside his country if he is certain about winning but of course, Haney has also such a terrible experience. Winning his last fight could give Kambosos an additional learning experience that can be applied to the next fight (with Haney) but this is not the ticket to win, he should have improved his fighting style otherwise he fails and Haney will take the belt.

Even though he’s the underdog here based on the odds, I still see Kambasos to have a good match here and a great opportunity to showcase his talent and skills to defeat Haney which is not an easy opponent of course. This can be more exciting, and I’ll place a bet later on once the odds stabilize and become more realistic, I also see Kambasos to have the good edge here and a chance to win.

The time is approaching and Yes, the Ukrainian boxer gave up his career for his country, where he is fighting is real way rather than fighting in ring. God Bless Loma. My predication is Kambosos might win the match if luck sides him as well.

It could be, but we have seen that this is not always the case. GGG beat Murata in Japan, Murata's home town.

And with Haney's technical skills, he is has a good chance to beat Kambosos in Australia too. And hopefully this fight will turn out to be as what they have been promoted, one of the best fight in the lightweight as the belt is on the line.

I really believe in Devin Haney even though he is the underdog to Kambosos pretty much I am siding on him, both are undefeated although George Kambosos Jr. has more experience than Haney, I think that Devin Haney has proven himself so many times, with Yuriorkis Gamboa I really think Devin Haney shows patient and not giving away his ace card and outbox Gamboa to win a unanimous decision victory, and with Jorge Linares that is the hardest fight in my opinion, at first controlling the fight but Linares has surprised him with a big punch, that making the fight Tied in the last 2 rounds but have emerged victorious, another fight that I think a good example of boxers with high experience, so I think Devin Haney does need those experience I think he got skills in getting to George Kambosos, but I think Devin Haney could win this with a decision aswell.

With the current betting standing, Haney was the favorite now with a winning probability of 65.5%.

https://i.imgur.com/JgxyvS0.png
https://bettinginsiderjournal.com/boxing/devin-haney-vs-george-kambosos-odds/

I see a challenging moment now on the side of Kambosos on how to change the situation. For sometimes we think that experience is an advantage but at this time, it looks like it was not the assurance. It really matters the condition of the fighter.

Are there any changes on the betting odds, looks to me that the odds have changed a bit in favor of Kambasos. I know they are both champions but I believe that when the odds were first out, Haney was the major favorite, now, he is only a slight favorite. Anyway, I still stick with my bet, Haney to win.

^^ There will definitely a shift as far as gambling bets on this fight.

So we are not sure if Haney will remain the favorite or Kambosos fans will put huge amount of him to change the odds. Remain to be seen. What's important that this fight will live up to the billing and I can't wait till we see an official face-off because we wanted to see the two talk smack against each other, gonna be fun.

Well, if that is true that they really despise each other and throwing some spicy words like claiming like the one you state above then that would make the fight more intense and interesting to see, I mean I hope that they are not faking it just to market/sell the fight more.

By the way, the poll now is 56.3% still in-favor for Haney while Kambosos got 43.8%

This is going to be very close on odds and who will win here, Kambosos is not a weak fighter, having beaten the man who beat the man, I like both fighters because they want to face the best right away, Kambosos could have opted to face contenders below the top 5 but he wants to get all the title right away, against a very dangerous Haney.
This is going to be a game of strategy and stamina and this is going to be a very close and exciting fight, even the build-up is worth following.

Yes, boxing fans are still divided here, and it's a close vote so far.

So this is a dangerous fight for the champion Kambosos, this is the first defense and it's against a champion as well. But he has the homecourt and it could be advantageous to him down the stretch. I agree that this is going to be a fight with a lot of strategy and momentum shifting and we don't know who will control the fight because of the contrasting style.

Indeed, but most of the votes are on the side of Devin Haney rather than George Kambosos Jr. but yes this will be going a close one.

I surely hope so that the advantage of Kambosos is not through a rigged fight as what the Australia is known for in the past years, a fair fight is a much more interesting to see because they are both champions and they have that capabilities needed to take down each other, this will be a battle of strategy while trying to conserve each other's stamina.

Indeed! The odds won't have that much gap even if Haney is the favorite one and Kambosos is the underdog. I understand why Kambosos choose to fight Haney right away because he is not getting younger while Haney is slowly getting in the height of his prime, if he choose to fight another boxer instead of Haney, he will be at risk someday because their fight is already inevitable.

I already took my bet on Kambosos last week while he is still the underdog. I believe that odds may slowly shift towards Kambosos becoming the favorite or at the very least will become nearly at par. Haney got very good skills and he is strong. But he isn't that tested. His best win was against an old Linares that even wobbled him and he cannot stop the guy. Congrats on being the first guy that beat Linares by decision. Linares got stopped on his other losses. Haney also cannot stop an old Yuriorkis Gamboa. He wasn't even hurting a blown up featherweight in Jojo Diaz. So I conclude that there is a very tiny chance Haney can hurt Kambosos. Kambosos got great hand speed too. Haney at times play dirty probably because he is desperate on scoring knockouts at championship level. Kambosos will never get bullied, try playing dirty on him and he will return it with interest. And if the fight becomes close, I got a feeling George will be taking them judges scores.   

at first, Devin Haney is the underdog but after seeing your post I have checked the odds on stake.com and at the moment the odds were at 2.50 for George Kambosos while 1.51 for Devin Haney, likely Haney is the favorite to win at this moment and the fight will be on June 5, 2022, and there are many betting for Devin Haney,

I also think that Haney will sure give Kambosos a good fight, this may become a decision match but I am seeing that Haney will take a more careful approach on Kambosos, while George will likely want a Knockout win I really think both fighters will likely to make a safe approach and surely they both want to retain the undefeated status that is why.


Yup! the odds are not that high and could change at a pace we surely don't know and because the fight is still almost 2 months to go, the odds would surely likely change, I sure thought that George Kambosos Jr. was the favorite to win and has higher odds but checking the odds on stake.com I was really shocked that it changes, it is still early to say whether who's the underdog, and both are really worthy to look at up because both are an undefeated fighter.

I remember the Pacman fight and yes, for me it was a robbery, but if it seemed like a robbery when the fights were in the Olympics, which is something that should be so transparent, it happens here too, the only thing is that now they will have all eyes on them, there is already a precedent and I do not think that the Boxing deference likes that they impute their reputation and maintain it as if it were anything. This fight seems very controversial to me just because of that fact, I am anxious and the truth is that I would not know who to bet on, both fighters will be waiting.

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In another order of ideas, Haney with such a high probability of winning, I think it has a lot to do with the updates they have shown, I know that at the level of expertise of sports levels it has a lot to do with it, but it would still be something formidable for the one who made the bet against and win will be filled with money much faster.

Well this one is going to be one of the biggest fights this year, because it will determine who the Undisputed Lightweight Champion of the World will be.  ;D
Kambosos rekon he is more than ready for the fight and he will ruin his opponents career with this fight.  ::)

He is mocking with Haney’s stuttering ..as if that has anything to do with his fighting skills.... so I hope Devin Haney kicks Kambosos's ass in this fight, because it is not cool to make fun of someone else's speech impediment.  >:(

Kambosos has learned to fuel and motivate him if he is being trash talk and Haney is not short of it. So he fires back mocking Haney's stuttering, so it's good to hear them talking trash because it will generate hype around this fight.

Kambosos again is the underdog here, but we will see if he can make it 2-0 and win against a technical boxer in Haney.

And as I have said before, the odds can still change and Kambosos might close that huge odd once we are days from the fight.

Good analysis, we have a saying the style makes the fight and, the match looks good because they have the same style fast accurate and love to counterpunch it will be interesting who will be the aggressor here because both fighters love to wait and loves to defend but as Tyson says the way I looked on it the power-punching will be the key on how the fight will be and we'll know this in the early phase of the round, I believe Kambosos is a harder puncher between the two.

Kambosos did that? That might seem too personal and offensive that Kambosos is talking about Haney's stuttering, he might get a karma on the fight and getting overconfident will drag him into defeat if by chance because Haney will definitely do his best to defeat Kambosos with a possible knockout to avoid getting the score on the judge's hand and the chance of getting robbed.

That is in really bad taste, I understand that fighters want to increase the number of people that watch this fight, but such a thing is unnecessary, whoever wins this fight will become the undisputed champion of the lightweight division, that is more than enough to attract the attention of all the fans, and if Kambosos wanted to bring more people by making some wild statements he could have chosen to do things differently, as if anything this is going to make a lot of people to switch sides and instead they will support Haney as they will never agree with the statements that Kambosos made.

He is playing some mind games, Kambasos understand how goo Haney is, and I believe that it was the same strategy he did to Lopez that's what Lopez wanted to KO him early and lose his focus on winning the fight using the right strategy. I hope Haney would not fall into this trap, he has to be more precise since he will be fighting in Kambasos's territory.

No doubt this will be another highly interesting fight as this fight is for the undisputed lightweight championship as both have known to be champions in the boxing arena. However, this fight will bring more advantage for Haney but for Kambosos, he already become the undisputed champion when he won against the fight with Lopez.

In this fight, one of them will have a stain in their record after the match because a draw in this fight is so unlikely to happen. No doubt that Kambosos Jr. is a good decent boxer but Haney is more experienced and as per KO history, the latter have the advantage as well as the reach and technical capabilities. As said, this will be a tough one to see and will be a tight match because none of them is willing to take that stain in their record.

If Haney wins the fight he doesn't have to chase Ryan Garcia anymore he has all the belts while Garcia does not have a single one only a title internet superstar which is not a legit status in the world of boxing.

I remember years back Haney is chasing Garcia to fight him but his promotions don't like it if Haney wins the table is now turned Garcia will have no choice but to come to Haney.

Not sure if Garcia is still interested though, he fought Tagoe at a catchweight not the limit of 135 lbs, maybe he will go up in his next fight and obviously he can't make the 135 lbs division.

But in any case, a Haney victory will put in as the undisputed, but he has to deal with the more technical fighter in Loma to be call the best of this division. Even though he is the favorite, I think Kambosos has a good chance to win this fight.

I don't know why Garcia's camp is chasing and looking forward to have a fight against Kambosos Jr instead of Devin Haney as the latter is already interested at Garcia. It would make the fight more interesting if indeed they will clash, that's my opinion though. Back at the fight, Kambosos have the chance but that wouldn't suffice to take down Devin Haney and his capabilities in the boxing. This fight might go long and may result to a unanimous decision but I'm with Haney on this fight.

It's a technical fighter against a technical fighter, it's a bad idea for Haney to go for a decision he must stop Kambosos he is in the hostile territory we all know how bad Australian officiating is, if he wins by decision it should be total domination Haney should not underestimate the hometown decision, this is a hard task for Haney but let's see if judges will be fair this time after what happened to Pacquiao there.

Haney's father knows that, and so it's a big task ahead of them. But seeing the odds and they are the favorite? obviously, something is going to come up, maybe Haney's technical skills will be hard for Kambosos style. I'm not seeing a Haney knock out victory, it will be on a decision, but then again, can the judge be fair against the American in their home soil?

Seeing Haney as the favorite in the betting lines is a no-brainer, he was the better fighter IMO and he is an American so he has a lot of fans that would bet on him in the fight. I like the fact that this fight will be held at Kambosos country, this should make Haney work harder in order to achieve a very convincing win.

The Pacquiao - horn still haunts the boxing community glad that Crawford end his reign and put Horn in the right place he doesn't belong in the elite but this fight is very different Kambosos deserves his title I hope the boxing organizations and Australia's boxing organizations will correct what happens in the Pacquiao - Horn fight and let the deserves fighter to win the match if ever the match go the distance, whether its Kambosos or Haney the world deserves a real winner in this fight.

Check out the training videos of both fighters side by side and make your conclusion:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vMas9aiJxLs

Yeah for sure this is just sessions with their trainers, but you can clearly see who has more power in those videos and who has more finesse. So it will be a stylistic match-up and whoever dictates early will probably win the fight.

The whole industry and people around the world that is into boxing knows about that issue and that Manny Pacquiao was robbed on that fight against Horn, they couldn't just honestly forget that time and now that there's another big boxing fight that is going to take place in Australia, I bet lots and lots will want to watch that fight.

For that matter, I don't really think that they are planning again to rig the fight because they know that they are so hot right now and for me it is much better to stay that way so that they won't do such unfair things again. Both boxers is good and they should just trust their own boxer and support him instead of making their boxer embarrass.

Haney played great defense based on what I see.

Thanks for sharing the video by the way.

What I see is that Kambasos style is aggressive boxing, it will help him if it will pressure Haney and will lose his focus. Well, since he is fighting in his country, I'm sure he will be more inspire in this fight and will try to win.

The hometown decision is still a big concern although Kambosos is not a weak fighter and he will not agree with an unfair decision he has fought on Lopez's turf the last time so we expect the judges will go for what is fair in this fight even if the fight is close, Haney should go for a knock out if there's a chance or be totally dominating like all of his fights, Haney is more tactical he seldom makes a mistake and a good counter puncher.

This is what Lopez doesn't have. If we still remember how Lopez fought when he lose against Kambasos, he was so aggressive that he forget to pay attention to his defense, the country punches of Kambasos went through although at some point he hurt Kambasos but it wasn't enough to KO him.

Haney by decision is probably the result.

Yes, social media will mock their fighter if he will win with questionable decisions. Instead of gaining the hypes, he might gain a lot of critics and knowing how social media can fun up with you. It will be better to win in a right way and nothing else. Maybe fans should give them that fair chance to prove their greatness. Even in the past there're issues regarding to that kind of act rigging the result.

We never know what will be the outcome or who will win the fight. It will be great to see a KO to have a clean win.

But the thing is, if he just make one single mistake in this fight, an aggressive Kambosos might take advantage of it. An old Linares almost knock out Haney in their fight, it's that Linares is tired late in the round that's why he didn't make a follow-up. So if that is Kambosos, then maybe it will be a knock out win. Yes, he is a technical fighter, no question about it, but Kambosos might counter it with his pure aggressiveness just like in the Lopez fight.

I bet they will if indeed their boxer (Kambosos) will win a questionable decision even if it's quite clear that Haney is the one supposed to win, but if he can knockout Haney then I think there's no issue about that at all or who can end the fight without getting the scores into the judge's hands. Nevertheless, I'm expecting that this would be a good fair fight and yes it would be really nice to some a KO.

If Kambasos has the power to KO Haney, he can.

Based on his record, he is only a 50% KO puncher, with 10 KO's only from 20 wins, while Haney has a 55.5% KO rate.
https://boxrec.com/en/proboxer/646781

Kambasos may hurt Haney but could not KO him for sure.

In that case we gonna expect the fight to last long or to reach up to the officials decisions and it would be nice if one of them will dominate the others and somehow a way find to beat his opponent by knockout because that would be best thing to conclude the match and to win the fight.

It is unlikely that someone who participates in competitive sports likes to show all the cards. Rather, on the contrary - maybe in this video one of the athletes deliberately behaves awkwardly in order to create the wrong impression about himself? I think that the one who excels in agility will dominate by the end of the fight (if he lives), usually such confrontations go exactly like this: if the advantage in strength is not realized in the early rounds, then it becomes less and less noticeable because the one who focuses on strength gets tired faster.

There's a very high chance that this fight will go for 12 rounds rather than seeing a KO, I'm not saying that there's no chance for both boxers to have a KO win but both of them have almost the same record and capabilities. A 5.5% difference in KO history is not that much but as I said, a chance is a chance but it's really slim, IMO. We might see a consecutive exchanging of blows because both of them have a point to prove.

I can't deny that either because the fans and the whole boxing community will watch this fight, and some are watching not because they want to see Kambosos and Haney sharing a ring but because they also want to see how would it end, is it going to be unfair or fair. Well, hopefully everything goes well on this fight because Kambosos also have what it takes to defeat Haney. Surely there's no need to rig a fight just to make sure that their boy will win, it will be a great mess.

Yes of course. When it comes to training their special and specific strategies it will be confidential. Even sparring sessions, top fighters will prohibit their spar mates to take videos or at the very least they can only release and disclose it after the fight.

I kind of agree that the faster guy will dominate the fight since both have speed and Haney is also a defensive fighter. But whoever throws more combinations and maintain its energy and stamina will be good indicators too.

I hope they aren't that seriously dumb to expose their preparations and trainings to the public and have their boxer in a tight spot because he is exposed, though I think it's unlikely for that event to happen as trainings is a closed venue and it's guarded as there could some paparazzi and media lurking somewhere just to make a headline.

About Haney and Kambosos, I can't really choose between the two of them for now. I won't deny that Haney has the advantage but Kambosos cannot be underestimated as well.

Nah, both camps seriously know about that because they have already reached this state so meaning all the people surrounding this boxers are knowledgeable enough and professional enough not to give any tips/hint that could be used by their opposing camp. As for media or paparazzi's are concerned, I'm quite sure that their venue isn't that easy to penetrate so if there's some news or leaked videos then I assume it came from the inside.

Haney is not known for his power, Kambosos though is his fight against Lopez shows that he has some serious power when he was able to knock down Lopez with that overhand right and everyone was surprised by that power behind. But it will be hard to knock out a defensive fighter in Haney. So yes, this could go in a full 12 round fight.

I somehow agree on that because Haney is much more known for being a defensive fighter than for his strength/power, however his power is more greater than Kambosos's, IMO. Kambosos may have defeated Lopez but it was a unanimous decision because Lopez also manage to knock him down somewhere in round 9 or 10. But yes, this fight may also end into the judges hand.

Yes 50% is already a good percentage to pull a decent knockout, but Haney have more chances to pull a knockout victory over Kambosos together with his defensive capabilities to withstand Kambosos heavy punches. However, this fight is unlikely to result a KO and it will last until the 12th round and most probably end by a decision. I hope we can see more of a toe-to-toe fight on this one as both fighters have different skill set.

I was watching the video of these two fighter and one thing I noticed is that Kamboso is the faster fighter.  His hand speed is way better than Haney maybe because Haney always considered being on the defense-first which is both a pro and cons in a fight.  I then search for some detailed stats explanation and I saw this one which I agree...

https://www.reddit.com/r/Boxing/comments/rlg1gc/i_think_haney_is_going_to_have_real_problems_with/

To highlight some explanations on this link:


Maybe this is somehow lean towards Kambosos' favor but if this fact shows inside the ring then we can probably see Kambosos winning the fight.

But of course, these things are nullified if Kambosos kisses the canvass early on in the fight.

Yeah, that's the thing, he is against Haney who is an undefeated fighter, so it's not gonna be easy for him as Haney for sure is going to move well on the court knowing how Kambasos would try to be more aggressive and so he can also make sure that the judges would not score in favor of Kambasos.

There's a reason why Haney is the favorite, in short he is the better fighter based on what majority thinks of this fight.

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Helpful comparison @serjent05

We will have to see, Haney doesn't have a good chin as I have said, and if Kambosos will touch that hard then we can see if Haney can readjust his gameplan or that power of Kambosos is enough to score a knock out victory for him.

But the bookies is leaning towards the defense of Haney and his accurately in counter that could win the fight for him. That's why he is the favorite. But we can't underestimate the champion here who is making his defense in his own soil.

That hand speed help him a lot during the Teo Lopez fight. Lopez has a decent hand speed, but Kambosos beat him to the punch. If he can do it against Haney, they I don't see him kissing the canvass and it could be the other way away.

Yes, Haney is 'chinny', so just imagine if that punch that hit Lopez that put him down is reproduce by Kambosos, I doubt that Haney can recover from that. Chinny fighter doesn't have a good recuperation time if they got knock down.

I think this comparison are no longer valid since Bey's prime has passed when he fight against Kambosos, he was an active boxer on 2007-2014... after he lose from Kambosos, he never fought anyone anymore.

The interesting thing is Haney get exposed when he fought with Linares on a year ago, Linares throw quick combination of right and left punch to Haney on 10th rounds, Haney almost fell but he can still walk to the corners.

This could be an advantages to Kambosos as we know he's quick puncher, Haney wouldn't survived if Kambosos can throw a quick clean punches. However Haney has a good surprise punch, his left hook was insane.

Even if Kambosos have beaten Mickey Bey last 2019, it's not an outstanding win because that time Bey was already 35 years old and he's inactive in the boxing industry as he is only doing 1 fight every 2 years before he was defeated by Kambosos by a split decision. Haney and Bey's only similarities is their boxing style but in terms of power, it's clear that Haney has it more.

Haney himself knows that he don't have a strong chin and he also knew that if he will get caught by Kambosos's power punch, he won't be in a good situation that's why Haney is focusing on his defensive style rather than his power because that's just his only way to win a fight but he cannot be underestimated because we knew how accurate his punches are and Kambosos should also be aware of that. This will be a tough match to see this June, both of them have their own skill set so this will be interesting.

Exactly mate! Haney will make sure that his punches will have the most score every round and avoid getting caught by Kambosos's punches when he is aggressive. Haney won't have a hard time dodging that heavy punches because he have the reach advantage so his accurate counterpunch will be enough if he will utilize it well when Kambosos is trying to reach within Haney's area.

True that, but the author of the link I shared stresses the boxing style Mickey Bey might pass on Haney since Mickey Bey is currently Haney's trainer.  There might be some variation but obviously, the possibility of Bey's basic style to be seen on Haney is there, and that is where Kambosos get familiar with when he fights Bey.



It is really dangerous when the fighter's previous fight exposes him. It simply gives his opponent a flaw that can be exploited.  I hope Haney had made arrangements to at least nullify this weakness that was exposed during his previous fights.

Well I suppose you are right, this seems like a strategy that Kambosos has used in the past and since it worked then he is not afraid of using it again, still it does not change the fact that such a thing is simply in bad taste, and that a lot of people are not going to like that he is willing to step so low to try to get an advantage, and as such some of the fans will switch sides and they will like to see him lose against Haney.

Well sometimes people will go to such extreme measures just to gain advantage or benefit themselves, they do not care what others thinks because they are so determined to get the win even if it's already out of the line. Kambosos will surely use that again because yes he will think that it would be efficient as it has worked the last time he used it. Hopefully Haney won't fall to that trap though.

Just to let you guys know, there will be a rematch clause according to this article:


https://www.boxingscene.com/haney-i-inspire-young-old-guys-other-side-street-stuff-out-window--165748

So that's how confident in this fight, if he beats Kambosos, he will more willing to fight him again in his own soil and beat him the second time.

That's a good one, if there will be a home cooking in Kambasos home, then most probably Haney would have the same treatment in favor for him once the rematch will happen. But of course, we don't want to see a dirty officiating or judging because it's a disgrace of the boxing organization.

Another good thing is that we will see a great fight 2 times because of the rematch clause. It's like the Fury vs Wilder fight which even reach a trilogy and it was a high generating revenue fight. I'm sure I will not be bored watching this fight knowing how aggressive Kambasos is and he does have a good stamina to finish the 12 rounds if he would not be badly beaten by Haney.

If both will win in their home country then we will surely see a trilogy. If the fight is not boring, of course will draw the attention of the crowd and they'll make a lot of money on this fight. Too bad for Lopez, if only he beats Kambasos then he should be in this situation now. I will support these two fighters as they are both undefeated but one is just a heavy favorite to win.

It seems Lopez is scared to face Haney, that's why he choose Kambosos since he thought he will easily beat Kambosos... but it's not. He won over Loma on October 2020 and there's no fight until November 2021, 1 year is enough to setting up the fight against Haney to be honest.

Surely it will be interesting if both won in their home, even Kambosos or Haney lose in their first match, they're nothing to lose since they have a chance get back their titles on second match. Haney got my respect to attend the second match against Kambosos, as we know he's a favorite in this match.

Speaking the heavy favorite which is Haney, the odds is 1.52x right now... I don't think it's heavy favorite, because I've seen another boxer has below 1.10x odds.

Maybe, but if I would be Haney, I would choose a boxer who are holding a belt, and in that matter it's Kambasos who holds the belt now and while Haney think he has a great chance of winning, so choosing Kambasos is the right decision. However, he should not underestimate Kambasos as he was also the underdog in the Lopez fight and yet he stunned Lopez.

It's far from being the outstanding and heavy favorite. And Lopez can pull another surprise in this fight and most probably we will see another one even if Haney losses. There are a lot at stake here, this is unification so it make sense that a rematch clause is in place and put to motion. Agree as well that we might see a trilogy here, so the other fighters in this division will have to wait like Garcia and Haney if they chooses to remain in this division and willing to wait.

Yes, certainly it is much better to see a tough fight but also a fair one without pulling some dirty tricks just because it is their home ground. They will fight on their home soil respectively and they already have the crowd advantage so there's no need to pull another trick just to make sure the fight will be their favor. Instead of hyping ones name because of his success, it will be a huge embarrassment and his name will be dragged because of that dirty trick.

^^ They've seen that they have been criticized after the Manny Pacquiao fight. So I think they will not make the same mistakes in a high boxing match like this because all eyes will be on Australia again.

So it's better for Kambosos to really show that he dominated the fight by all means so that there will be no controversy if he won by a decision in his home court.

Yes, as long as there would be no cooking show then this one will be definitely worth to watch and won't be a boring fight indeed. I still believe though that Australia will not do such thing in this fight to embarrass Kambosos because he already have the skillset which could defeat Haney if he will get caught by a serious punch coming from Kambosos himself. I'm really seeing a rematch even if Kambosos will lose or Haney.

It still going to depend on the match, if its a close fight and the result is a majority or a split decision then it deserves a rematch but if one boxer totally dominated the other boxer, I don't think there will be interest in a rematch, we all know promoters they want to see if the fight will generate interest if not they will just shelve it or the purse will be lower than the first fight.

Seeing a knock out an early round will end all the discussion, hopefully this will not be the case this time as we have seen them how they fought so hard that will make each round very alive and exciting. With Kambosos raised from Australia, i guess he will be more motivated to give a fair fight and show what Haney has not seen from him so he can make his native land proud of him from his come back.

Certainly the point, rematch will only happen if the fight will end in a close bout without some knockouts in between rounds or their skills don't have much gap. Either way, this is an interesting match and only time can answer if there will be some rematch after this. Might as well watch and enjoy this fight first because both boxers have something to prove and both have a clean record. Only one of them will survive as I think a draw in this fight is not possible.

Yes definitely! It would be nice to see a knockout but I don't think that something like that could happen in the early rounds, maybe in the late rounds somewhere round 8-12 where both boxers are already weary from fighting 7 rounds and giving their all.

Hopefully that something like that won't happen again this time because it will really give Kambosos a bad history and it will be an embarrassment to the whole boxing community but I seriously don't think that they will do that again, not when all of the world even the boxing management is watching them.

Yes, I agree. I'm just saying that these two boxers will somehow face each other in a rematch soon because I'm really seeing that this will be a tight and close bout as their abilities and capabilities don't have that much difference, the only difference is their style because Kambosos is aggressive while Haney is more on defensive. But as said, this is just a pure speculations until the announcer announces the result.

He will definitely look for a knock out here, he is fighting in front of his fans and they will all go crazy if Kambosos will knock down/out Haney early.

Haney on the other hand, doesn't care if the match is going to be held in Australia, he just want to get the belt from Kambosos and unify as a champion although there is a rematch clause so he will have to beat him twice and let the other champion chase him.

As you have said, their style is very different so for me this might be not a close fight. If Kambosos power can overwhelmed Haney then this might be quick and might not last 12 rounds. But if Haney can frustrate Kambosos with his defensive style then maybe this could be a boring fight. So it will be up for Kambosos, if he can perform similar to the Lopez fight I think he has a good chance to win by KO.

The odds in losing the match are definitely going to be infinitely better for Devin Haney. Which is a far better way of saying Haney does not stand a chance against George Kambosos.

The Manny Pacquiao fight was a total disaster, I doubt that they are going to go down that route a second time. I mean it was just a bit too sterile, even for the fans. George Kambosos Jr. said that he is grateful for the time boxing legend Manny Pacquiao has spent with him inside the ring. So no disrespect to legends.

Fight will be interesting.

Well, the video of both boxers can be seen that they do not show everything as it should be, they do not show their strategies, their normal way of training, what they give is a very small idea of what they are both doing. For me Kambosos is one of the best boxers out there, the technique he has is exquisite, it is not to belittle Haney's technique, but I see that Kambosos is more hungry to win, he is more eager for things to be given to him, it is that even the look is something different.

Of course they are things and details that can be seen with the naked eye, the fight determines many more things.

Haney is favorite in this fight, so he has a good chance to win even if it is going to be held at George Kambosos back yard.

Of course many have pointed out that the Manny fight was really a disaster as it was obvious a homecook decision for their boy. But they have learn their lessons and maybe the camp of Haney knows about this one and probably will not allow it to happen. AFAIK, boxers will also have the final say as who will judge their fight so they have the right to say no to someone who they think that are not going to be fair.

It makes me smile how the poll here has equal votes for both George Kambosos Jr. and Devin Haney as possible winners in their match while the odds on betting sites are favoring Haney over Kambosos Jr. with a significant margin. No doubt that Devin Haney is indeed a good boxer. He's the more athletic between the two. He's got the reach and could effectively keep the distance with his far-reaching jabs. But Haney doesn't have the power to end the fight early. And since this will probably end up in a decision, I think Kambosos Jr. can very well make points and win.

I broke the tie now, LOL.

Well, both boxers are good, so it's not a surprise to see a close voting competition in the poll provided by OP. I love this fight actually because the playing safe vs the aggressive fighter is going to meet, and let's see if Haney will be able to effectively use his strategy against Kambasos, if he could not KO Kambasos, let's also see how the judges will score the fight.

I thought you broke the tie in my fighter's favor. Lol. But you voted for Haney. Let the better boxer win.

Since this is going to be a match that will probably end in a decision, I think Kambosos Jr. has the advantage. First this is going to be fought on his land so he has the home court advantage. The crowd will be on his side, cheering for him. That would at least give him a boost. Another is that Haney is the challenger here, flying to his opponent's country, so whenever a round is so close it could be given to either fighter, it might benefit Kambosos Jr more.

If you believe that he has the advantage, then you are in a great position to put your bet now as on the updated odds, Kamabasos is the underdog. Both boxers are good, but of course, bettors would choose which is better and majority believe that Haney will win.

updated 3 days ago.
https://www.givemesport.com/87999809-george-kambosos-jr-vs-devin-haney-odds-favourite

The odds would never, Haney will remain as the favorite but it doesn't matter if you are backing on Kambasos to win because you believe that he can win in front of the home crowd, and that will only give you an odds that you will enjoy because Haney is a heavy favorite.

I am not sure which cave you crawled out of but Devin Haney is going to definitely lose big time. That is why I said that "the odds in losing the match are definitely going to be infinitely better for Devin Haney". This means that the odds of Haney going belly up in the fight are higher, therefor, he has bad odds at winning. You might have gotten confused by the meaning, which is ok. Not everybody can understand nuances perfectly.

Haney definitely is also not the favorite in this fight. Everybody seems to be cheering for George Kambosos.

It's looks like the voting is tie, 12 a piece. So definitely, boxing bettors are not to sure in this fight. Maybe there will be fans of Kambosos because of his huge win against Lopez or Haney because he has the ability to play defense and could survived George power early as he can turtle and try to break Kambosos mentally in this fight. So we will see, definitely an exciting match for us.

This is surely an exciting fight because people believe that it's not only a one-sided fight. Both are champions, so it's a fair match although Kambasos is the underdog per betting sites. Beating Lopez is not easy but Kambasos were able to do that, it was a bloody fight but he survive and won the fight.

I'm basing everything on what the current odds are:

https://i.imgur.com/9FTQslU.png

So obviously Haney is the favorite in the fight. So it's ok if you haven't check the bookies as you might not be interested in betting in this fight.

Maybe majority believe that it's going to be Haney that will win but not going to be a one-sided fight since we all know how big the heart of Kambasos is. He can fight and survive, the good thing here is that we will see Haney being tested by a more aggressive fighter.

Yes, they are both champions with no stains in their respective records and in this fight only one will survive as a draw is somehow not possible on this fight (hope so). Anyways, I'm still eyeing whom would I choose as they are both dominant and have a different skill set that is unique to each other, guess I'll pick few days before the fight schedule.

Isn't it hard to pick as to who is going to be the winner?
Both are good champions in their own right and Haney seems to be the favorite. But George has some serious power and dominant against Lopez.
Maybe I will take the same route, I will not bet early, I still have to look at them at the weigh in and see as to who is not intimidated per their body language. No need to rush our bets here.

Yes it's true that Kambosos can overwhelm Haney in the first few rounds if he can be unreadable during that stage where he's the most aggressive but he should be careful though because he may get caught off guard by Haney's surprise counter punch because the latter got the reach advantage to give Kambosos a warning punch or worse a finale punch if by chance. Both of them can make the fight ends in KO.

Maybe it is a bit to early for him to decide and as for me, I haven't picked which side I will go too as it is still to early and there's no pressure really as we still have more than 1 month to decide which one. Yes, I'm also looking forward on their weigh-in as there will be some glimpse on which is more dominant by just looking at them doing a face to face.

I guess I can honestly say that it is really that hard for me to choose between these two boxers who have their own skillset but no pressure because the fight is still over a month from this time of writing. I'm still giving myself some time to have some opinion while grabbing my own research to have my boy in this fight, but at this point I'm thinking I'd go for Haney.

I don't know about that but for me I am going to side with the more experienced and safe to play Devin Haney for betting reasons but if it's for an entertaining fight then I don't doubt Kambosos there because he is the aggressive fighter than Haney who just play defense most of the time.

Even if Haney is the favorite according to the odds, we have seen Kambosos fight and I do not think it is going to be an easy fight for Haney, Kambosos needs to go all out and try to win from the first round, it is unlikely he will get a KO but he needs to score points from the very beginning and impress the judges, because I do not think that Haney is going be affected by his statements as he seems like a collected young man and he is not going to make the same mistakes as Lopez made.

That's what makes the fight more interesting to see because both have a clean record and both have their own strengths and styles, I think we cannot see this kind of match-up too often. Kambosos will still struggle to score on Haney as the latter is know for his defensive capabilities with a mix of lethal counter punch while Haney's challenge is too keep up with Kambosos's aggressive style without lowering his guard for a bit.

Both have studied each other well so that they won't commit the same mistakes that their past opponents did.

I agree with you, for me Haney will seek to give Kambosos a knockout, and I think that Kambosos has this very clear strategy, and seeing the statistics that favor him, I think that Kambosos is preparing very hard, demanding more and more for this fight, he You know very well by pure inspection that a boxer when he has a reputation for making knockouts, the best training for the other boxer is to strengthen himself even more to resist the force that he will put into each blow, this can only be achieved with hard work, well at To tell the truth, very hard work, if Kambosos manages to train as I think he can, it will decrease that probability of being knocked out, and if so, he will have to establish a strategy to defeat Haney.

the bookies' favourite here is haney at about 1.5x odds, whereas, kambosos at about 2.5x. but if kambosos will have a very good game plan and good training, he can win this fight. i can understand why the results of this poll is like 50-50 in the forum. and that means, we will see a very nice fight between the two.

I'm not surprise with that actually as Haney is a good boxer, he has better wins than Kambasos though both are undefeated.

We will know if that game plan will work once they are already fighting in the ring, but for now, let's just based their chances on the odds given by the bookies.

Of course it won't be an easy fight, but it seems the bookies know the chances of Haney are good to win because of their styles. So it's more of a brawler vs a technical and defensive fighter in Haney. Kambosos might go with the KO early to test the chin of Haney if it can hold. But then Haney is known to shell when being attack to protect his chin. So it will be a good fight and this could go on 12 rounds and maybe, just maybe Haney edging out Kambosos by SD.

Yes, Kambosos is more of a brawler and that will be taken advantage by Haney as he can use his quickness to beat Kambasos by the scores. however, this wouldn't be an exciting fight if there's not toe to toe between the two, so let's hope that Kambasos would also be able to catch Haney and hurt him.

Same here, I was already expecting too see Devin Haney listed as the favourite by the sports bookies rather than Kambosos. His record was more impressive and his style is not easy to oppose especially now that he have more reach advantage than the latter.

No matter what's their game plan towards the fight because often times, that plan won't happen because of the adjustments made by the opponents inside the ring or in the actual fight as they also know that their past fights have been watched several times to study their moves. They just have to be more intelligent to analyze each others movement.

^^ Most likely this is what we are going to see, adjustments from both fighters and see who will get the upper hand.

And talking about Kambosos, he said he is willing to give Lopez a rematch even at 140 lbs just to shut his big mouth of his. That is if he is going to win against Haney, so it is the first agenda on the table for him because Haney is not an easy fight.

In terms of adjustments and IQ level, it's undeniable that Haney have those capabilities than Kambosos who only knows to brag and open his mouth about his future careers in life. It might be best for him to shut up for those future opponents that he will likely face and to focus on how he would defeat Haney who is more greater than him.

On the contrary, I think George has this personality that he thrives with this trash talking and fueling his fire to knockout or knockdown his opponent like what Lopez and his father did to him. So in the ring he proved his superiority. And just like the start of the press conference, this started to throw insults at each other signaling that this fight will be the same for Kambosos, get motivated and punish Haney in the ring but it will not be that easy.

Lopez doesn't seem like he played the right strategy in that game, his aggressiveness was not well calculated compared to his fight with Loma. He probably doesn't respect Kambasos' power and was always looking to knock him out without noticing that he got caught every time he tries to take the man down. Kambasos did great but I'm not sure against a defensive fighter like Haney.

This is the first I've seen something like this during my long time participating in a boxing poll here


It's still over a month but will this stay the community is divided on who is the favorite come fight night and if we see something similar like this on bookies it's going to be a very interesting fight.
My sentimental favorite is Kambosos but Haney is preferable to win if I will go technical details on the style of both fighters.

This is one of the rare predictions here and you can expect that this is not a one-sided fight like we used to see because both of those guys are strong and power punchers that can surprise everyone with their boxing skills and it will be an unforgettable performance and hope that no one will get injured just before the fight because we all expected a total clash in the middle of the ring without hesitations. If that's the case, then the fight won't gonna reach the official's score cards.

Well recently almost all of us voted for Canelo to win the match against Bivol, but obviously we have not the results and it was an upset.

But in this poll, community is divided, although Haney is the favorite, yet many thinks that Kambosos will win because of his recent performance against Teo Lopez. So we will see then, if Kambosos is the underdog as per bookies will pull another upset win.

The Canelo - Bivol fight changes our perception it goes on the preparation of the fighter, on this fight, there will be no heavy favorite only a slight favorite, although I like Haney's chances but after what I've seen in Canelo fight, upsets can happen especially
if the fighter is a champion, undefeated and dedicated.
I followed Kambosos page and you should all see how he trained for his up-and-coming fight he is so serious in his fight against Haney, how can you not like this guy.

Yes including me, I'm also guilty about that as I did hope and expected that Canelo would still be hailed as the champion rather than the defending champion Dmitrii Bivol. I surely underestimated Bivol, I mean who would've honestly thought that Canelo will experience his 2nd defeat today when in-fact he is more experienced than Bivol.

But in-terms of Kambosos vs Haney, I'm with the latter. He plays safe and calculates his attacks well so that his stamina won't deplete easily. I might be wrong again, we don't know  ;D

Open media training for Haney here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WX8IEu2UkwE

You can see the speed, really motivated for his upcoming fight against Kambosos.
I'm sure since Kambosos is the underdog, bettors might look for him as we have seen a big upset recently.

"Superman speed warp speed",
"All night long",  ;D

That's the biggest advantage of Haney in this game, Kambasos is more of a counter puncher but if his opponent is faster than him, he cannot catch him. Well, he came from a huge upset victory, and now he will be tested again against a quicker champion than Lopez, so let's see the outcome.

I just want to see a clean and fair fight if this goes to the judges scorecards.

But he still cannot be complacent as the fight is going to be held is Australia, Haney has to beat Kambasos convincingly, by KO is the best way, and if he cannot do that, then I would not be confident that the judges will favor him. you like to see a clean fight, maybe that will happen, but clean judging, that's questionable IMO given the history of some big fight held in Australia before, familiar of Pacman vs Horn?

They are both motivated check Kamboso's page and you will see the intensity of the training, it seems he is more motivated in this fight than in a Lopez fight, I don't see him as an underdog in this fight, Haney is a slight favorite but Kambosos cannot be a heavy underdog they are both champions and we have seen how Kambosos can overcome challenges, I think he wants to feel the underdog because it brings the best of him.

This looks a heavy underdog for me.
https://bettinginsiderjournal.com/boxing/devin-haney-vs-george-kambosos-odds/

But anyway, it's always up to us if we are willing to take the risk, if we go with the underdog, then well and good, besides, Kambasos is also an elite fighter and you can expect he would fight until the end.

I think all this Trash talking was to just hype the fight, and I really think it was normal for many fighters to do it, just to sell more Payperviews, but if George Kambosos got some fuel by means of Trash talking then he definitely got a level of getting angrier could make him stronger attitude, pretty much that is kind of negative in my opinion, but if it works for him that way, then his hitting two birds with one stone, he's going to fueling his desire to knock his opponent out and get some pay per view or a way to advertise their fight,


I have voted for Devin Haney, I really like fighters with technicality over when they fight, calculating their opponent's moves, I kind of like that kind of a fighter, but I think there are some here that prefer a fighter that has a never say die attitude and I think George Kambosos is a perfect example, and with the equal poll that we got I think this is a good competition and a good example on how these two fighters were meant for their fans and has the impact of that excitement to really watch the fight, this would be one spectacular fight,

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For now the Event between George Kambosos VS Devin Haney has 3 bouts including the main event, 1st fight will be Jason Moloney VS Aston Palicte this is the card I think I will go with the Filipino, but Maloney is a promising fighter but I am sure want the Filipino to likely win, then 2nd match will be Junior Fa VS, Lucas Browne, I think Brown has the experience needed to win but Junior Fa is likely have the needed skill in winning a fight, and last will be against George Kambosos VS Devin Haney, fight.

I think it will be Haney's concern as well, but he is very confident that he will win this match regardless so he accepted this fight.

And for his open media work out, yeah, typical we've seen for boxers, they are going to show their speed and power, but we all know that it will be a total different ball game once they are inside the ring. I like the trash talk though, it will bring the best out of this 2 fighters.

Another marketing strategy to sell the fight but yes, it keeps them motivated and of course keeps the people to come and see them fight next month.

I'm thinking that Haney is already starting his strategy to mislead Kambosos about that Haney's open media workout, we won't see that move in the ring because Haney is also preparing something to make sure he will deliver a right result so that the score won't reach to the judges as Australia is known to mess with some fights to ensure their boxers victory.

During their press con, Haney said that he will take out Kambosos best attributes, so I don't know how he will do that.

And I agree, maybe this is just a strategy for Haney to misled George, showing his speed and his footwork but it maybe different when they square in the ring. So if that happens, we will see if Kambosos can adjust to what Haney will offer to him.

Well, the truth is, Kambosos could start with a good strategy that would be to give a KO, but I think it is a very risky strategy, because he will spend a lot of energy and I know that he can do it, but Haney has a very good preparation, and also one of the main characteristics of it is resistance.

If we focus on the physical characteristics and the styles of the boxers we see that there is a combination of styles that, if they had each one, would be even more complete.

There is indeed a very high chance that Haney will use and have another strategy on the day of their fight because I'm not seeing any other purpose why Haney's camp shows his training in media other than boasting his speed but we know that Haney is not like that. So, I'm convinced that they are going to use some other tricks to make sure Kambosos will lose as they are misleading the opposite camp.

That is exactly why I want these kind of match-up because these boxers are the kind who wouldn't take an easy defeat as they are both eager and willing to give their best shot in-order to have a sure win no matter what would cost them. I just surely hope this will be a clean fight though.

Either way, both boxers shouldn't be complacent to each other because they are both capable of giving a knockout punch. But on this fight, I won't deny that I'm with Haney.

I cannot think of any new strategies for Haney. He will be there and will fight smart, hit and not get hit. This is the reason why he is the favorite in this fight. He is far more skillful than George Kambosos. I cannot imagine Devin Haney capable of hurting Kambosos. Although he seems to be the stronger ang muscular man, chances are he will not try to brawl with Kambosos. Haney's knockout ratio is a bit misleading because he never scored a knockout or correct me if I am wrong but I haven't seen Hany scored a knock down or at least hurt a opponent since he was elevated as the WBC champion. Meanwhile, Kambosos knockout record is underrated, he was the one scoring knockdowns against former world champions Teofimo Lopez and Mickey Bey.

Bet now for Kambosos. ;D   

There's a mega-fight waiting for whoever is gonna win this fight the Isaac Cruz - Ryan Garcia will not push through and Sean Gibbons ward Isaac Cruz wants to challenge whoever wins the fight and so is Ryan Garcia, whoever wins the fight is expected to make a lot of money because the winner will hold all the belts and the boxing fans will pay just to see a unified champion fighting just like Canelo, I'm sure both fighter Kambosos and Haney to be motivated on this fight.

I think there's a rematch clause in this fight, 1st fight will be in Kambosos' home country, and the 2nd is on Haney's home county. So if they will follow the agreement, then those who are waiting might wait for a while as a Trilogy is also possible for this fight.

Yes because it's for " Undisputed Lightweight Title ", the biggest fight in this division.

Kambosos has been consistent on his fights. Haney will surely have a hard time beating Kambosos this time because he seems too prepared for this. Im not underestimating Haney but I think he needs to have a deep training on how to counter Kambosos' aggressiveness in the ring.

If Kambasos isn't fast enough, then it's hard to expect that he would catch Haney and hurt him. Haney is a defensive fight, he fights with timing, not so aggressive but he calculated his move unlike Lopez who's main strategy is to be aggressive all night, that's why Kambasos caught him with some good counter, this fight is going to be different.

Haney has better foot speed but probably the same hand speed or maybe a slight advantage on Haney. But Kambosos do have better combinations. This fight is happening in Australia. I expect a referee that allow fighters to work on the inside and this favors Kambosos. And close rounds will be given to Kambosos. Haney knows all of this so he might not fight a full defensive style at all. Probably he will try to control the fight by being aggressive but smart. But it will be hard to maintain as the aggressor throughout the fight because Kambosos is the warrior type and throws punches in bunches that will force Haney to backpedal.

That is really why I'm seeing this fight very interesting because both boxers have a good record and don't have a stain on their rapsheet. I won't deny that Kambosos have some good combinations hiding in his sleeves but Haney being an aggressive one? I really don't think so.

Haney may answer those combination punches from Kambosos with some counter or combination too, but he won't go for some styles that he ain't used to. He will still go back being defensive fighter and wait for some opening as he have the reach advantage. Also, he surely knows what to do because this fight will be held in Australia where his opponent Kambosos have some advantage. I'm thinking that he'll play smartly so that this scores won't reach on the judge's hand.

I'm surprised with the poll result so far.

we have 27 posters who voted for this fight and Kambasos got 51.9% of the total votes, or 14/27.
Bookies may make Haney a heavy favorite, but we posters here are bettors who see which figher offers a good value.

I would like to have an idea of some kind of advantage that either of the two boxers could have in this fight, for me Kambosos has explosiveness and that at any moment he can give everything and have little resistance, that is where I think Haney will have all the advantage, because if he manages to contain everything from Kambosos it could be the best of all scenarios.

I have not seen the bets for this fight and I really do not want to see them yet, at least until May 28 that the fighters have shown something about themselves, their training or any other advance, to have an idea of what they are prepared for, so I can have a better judgement.

They both have their own advantages as well as the disadvantage side, that's why we are seeing Haney showing his training to the media in hopes that they could set a trap on Kambosos camp because it's also expected that the latter's camp will use that video to study his movements. But I think Haney's camp have another goal that's why they revealed their training on the media, to think it's very unlikely to see some scenario like that. It's up to them on who will be the smarter one and that would have more chance in winning the fight.

Oh well, it sports bookies and the boxing fans in this community is not agreeing, it simply means that the fight is going to be very close and really hard to predict.

As been mentioned before, the styles of this two fighters are very contrasting and we don't know which style will be dominant. Or if the other side will adjust in the fight to counter the other. So for me this is a very difficult to predict and who to choose on betting.

Kambosos Jr. vs Haney the highly anticipated fight is coming close. Kambosos Jr. is glad that this fight is happening in his hometown: Australia. Devin Haney wouldn't take the opportunity given to him by the Ukrainian hero Vasyl Lomachenko who turn down this uncommon boxing fight to stay in Ukraine and defend country against Russian aggression for granted. On Saturday 4th June 2022 at 60,000+ Marvel Stadium in Melbourne, Australia I am predicting that the world would view one of the greatest boxing match of all time. Regardless of the polls I am saying that both boxers has 50/50 chance of winning.

The height of anticipation is quite encouraging in addition to the difficulty in throwing my weight behind anyone of them in my prediction of the outcome of this fight as to who's gonna win is something that really interest me. And I guess it's same for others out there

The quotes are very different from the voting results (currently 50/50), but I would not say that Haney is a super favorite in this fight, the odds are very competitive: 1.58 - 2.55. Looking back at Canelo's recent fight with Bivol where Canelo was the clear favorite but was declassed by the challenger, the outcome of that fight is far from obvious.

I just took another bet for Kambosos. Devin Haney is not capable of hurting Kambosos. I believe Kambosos is the hungrier fighter in spite being the lineal champion and is holding 3 belts. Kambosos will be the aggressor in this fight, the huge crowd will boost his morale and Haney will be put in an uncomfortable situation. If ever Kambosos cannot dominate the fight yet he can make it at least competitive then he will still take the judges nod.

Wow, I love your confidence bro.

This is a huge statement, Haney can knock out his opponent, so Kambasos can also be knocked out because he is a human. LOL.
But anyway, I got to respect your opinion and good luck with your bet.

He may actually hurt Kambosos Jr. but I don't think he will knock him out, so there is a very high probability that this fight will end up in the judges' scorecards. Haney is not really a knockout artist. In his last 5 fights, he failed to knock out even one of them. So in terms of taking points, Kambosos Jr. can fairly match Haney. And I also think that it would become a significant factor that Kambosos Jr. is fighting in his backyard. Loud cheers from your countrymen can boost morale.

I understand where @inthelongrun is coming from, I mean Haney is not known to be a heavy hitter and a knock out artist.

And we have seen Kambosos being tested by one of the best champion in Lopez and he didn't even dent George chin and on the contrary, it was the other away around. So it might be a bold and huge statement but it has some truth in it.

I think it's Kambasos who should hurt Haney for him to win. Yes, Haney may not be able to knock out Kambasos, but if Haney is winning by points, then this fight will be easily won by him. It's an aggressive fighter(kambasos) vs the technical fighter, usually the technical fighter wins.

Yes, I know that because there are also some users here in this forum are not interested in answering those said polls, that's why we can't really tell that there are more Kambosos's side here than Haney. As of now, the discussion poll has been tied.

The way I'm seeing it, the people and boxing spectators are still not sure on who have the higher hand on this match because both of them have their own unique skill set which is truly different to one another. That's how interesting the fight is :D

I don't agree. If both fighters do nothing, victory will fall on the hands of Kambosos Jr. In a round where neither of them clearly dominated the other, the 10 points will most likely be given to the aggressive fighter rather than the technical one. And because this is happening in Australia, a round where neither is a clear winner could go to Kambosos Jr. again.

Another factor is that although this is a unification bout, Kambosos Jr. has WBA, WBO, IBF, and The Ring while Haney has only the WBC. Haney is considered the challenger here. And I'm sure he will be introduced last.

@Boafeng, @bisdak and other boxing fans and experts in this thread. It appears Devin Haney's father who is also his head trainer has not been given a visa to enter to Australia and he will not be in Devin's corner for the fight. How much will this negatively impact Devin Haney's performance in the ring? Is there now presently an argument to bet on the underdog who is also fighting in front of his own country? On a more skeptical question, will the judges in Australia judge this in favor of Kambosos if the fight is very close?



Devin Haney hits the road for the biggest fight of his young career without his primary team in tow.

Travel plans for the WBC lightweight titlist will not include the company of his father and head trainer, Bill Haney who was not permitted to go through customs for their trip to Australia. The elder Haney was denied entry due to a prior conviction holding up his visa application, forcing Devin Haney to literally fly solo en route to Melbourne ahead of his June 5 undisputed lightweight championship clash with lineal/WBA/IBF/WBO champ George Kambosos Jr.

Source https://www.boxingscene.com/bill-haney-not-permitted-travel-australia-yoel-judah-lead-devin-haneys-corner-kambosos-fight--166321

That was tough for Haney, thanks for sharing the news and I think it's a big loss on the part of Haney. However, he has to be tough and try to beat Kambosos on his home country and make sure that he will win convincingly because speaking of judges, they'll surely favor their own.

With this present news, I still don't change my prediction, I still believe Haney will win.

I do agree, it will be very tough for the younger Haney to go alone and fight in a foreign land. However, this is going to be a good chance for him to proved that he has what it takes to be a champion despite this kind of adversities. So I don't think it will have a negative effect on the odds, it will still be Haney as the favorite to win this match.

Of course it will have a effect on Devin Haney as his father has guided him to many fights and this is the biggest. Nevertheless he will have Yoel Judah to guide him, so for sure they have set up a game plan and have communicated everything that they need to do in this fight. As for the judges, I don't want to speculate, on it, everything is on Haney's hand if he doesn't want the fight goes to the judges decision.

When I heard about this news, I immediately thought that the reason is some kind of insane vaccination requirements that Australia has already become famous for. But this time, the reasons are different. I wonder why this happened? It seems that such issues are easily settled by the organizers. I hope he gets a visa so that the fight takes place without any underlying reason in the best possible way.

True. I kind of disagree on not giving Devin's dad a visa when he already served his term. But I do not really know Australia's law with regards to this.

Will it affect Devin Haney? Personally, yes. Devin is just 23 years old. While he is gifted with amazing skills, the kid haven't been tested in deep waters yet. This is his biggest fight of his life. And he is not the main man here, he is like the challenger here with his lone WBC belt while Kambosos holds the other 3 plus the The Ring belt. If Kambosos will try to bully him in the coming promotional conferences and the weigh-in then it will mentally affect the visiting young kid. And I believe Kambosos was already waging the mental war since their negotiation period. The moment Devin Haney will hear more than 50,000 Australians cheering for their champion will demoralize this kid. And in difficult times, his dad won't be in his side.       

With regards to the judges and referees. They should not be Australians. They will be appointed either or both by the Australian boxing commission, WBA, WBC, IBF, WBO or the promoters. But most of the biases goes to the superstars, or the home fighters or promoters fighters.       

Both fighters are superstars, it's a unification fight so I think the advantage here is the fighter who are at home, and since Haney is more of a technical fighter, it will be hard for him to convince the judges to give him the win if he cannot fully dominate the fight, so the best way is just to knock out Kambasos and surely the result will be fair enough.

Well we can only speculate as to why his father is not given a visa assuming that the Victorian government wanted to 'protect' their boxers in George Kambosos. If this is the case then maybe a lot of Australian visitors have been denied their visa as well? I'm not saying that their is some political or other motive behind, but this is a high boxing fight and they should have at least given Devin's Haney father a change and make the fight in even terms. For me Kambosos already score round 1 here.

The only advantage of Kambosos is the venue of the fight which is located on his country, Australia, and which gives him some morale and boost of confidence if ever he needed one and nothing more. Let's just hope that this will be a good clean fight because the said country is also known to cook some fights like the famous Pacquiao-Horn fight. Nevertheless, a lot of people really expected a fair fight as this is a unification fight.

Maybe you are right, but Kambasos has the power to hurt Haney as he surprised us already during his fight with Lopez. Haney is maybe a more technical fighter but no fighter would survive in the ring if he is hit by a solid punch coming from a heavy hitter fighter. The odds say that Haney is the favorite, but it's different when they are already in the ring, and since Kambasos is fighting in his home country, that makes him more motivated to win.

We have seen a lot of upsets in boxing, so no surprise if this one will turn out to be one.
A home advantage is seen also to be one of the factors that may contribute for Kambosos win.
But we want to see a clear and honest fight of course. We don't want to see boxing fans doubting the judges' decision.
As much as possible a KO will give us assurance that the fight is not rigged or any of that sort.

It's up to the judges, not sure who they are, of if they are going to be pure Australians, but hopefully it's not, at least the organizations should fly judges that are fair and not biased so that there will be no home cook decision just like in the Horn vs Pacman fight years ago. Otherwise, it will be an black eye for Australian boxing if they keep doing this in big fights and they might get a ban and can't make a good fight in their country again.

Well, many have put oil on the fire, that is why it was very controversial some analyses say that Jeff Horn really won some rounds but not the fight, because what many thinks is Manny Pacquiao really won the fight, some would surely want to sue those judges, and wants to know those judges names because they think this is robbery in Pacman's side, and they really think that this is Jeff Horn's crib and many people there would really want a Jeff Horn to win and Manny Pacquiao is a very good target from that time, but I guess the judges want to see the punching power of Pacman the once that beat Érik Morales, Oscar De La Hoya, Ricky Hatton, Miguel Cotto, those fights Pacquiao still has that punching power, but in the previous Pacman they will never see it because he is never the same back then,

Well in Kambosos and Haney's fight if the advantage goes to Haney and Kambosos won, then a fighter would think twice to fight in that place, they will surely have problems in fighting knowing what happened, I think that is what may happen because of the history,

Certainly, there are still lots of people who have not forgotten what happened back that day when Pacquaio got robbed in that fight.
On the same note, people will watch this Kambosos-Haney fight as well as the whole boxing organization if there will be some biased judgment but they are also hoping that this time it will be a clean and fair fight.

In every boxing match there should be strict rules for fair judges, because maybe some viewers or television viewers can count every punch during the match, but if the judge has set for victory to a certain boxer then the match will damage the reputation for every boxing sport. Judges must play a more prudent and fair role for all boxers and do not discriminate for away boxers or not.

I just stumbled on this and this is something unexpected but the most important man in Haney's corner his father, and his manager Bill Haney, will not be allowed entry to Australia because of a drug conviction he had served 30 years ago.

They are working to get him entry they are still time left but it could have an impact on Haney's performance which is the biggest fight of his life if they will not allow the older Haney.


Arum on Bill Haney Australian Visa Denial Ahead of Kambosos Fight (https://www.boxingscene.com/arum-on-bill-haney-australian-visa-denial-ahead-kambosos-fight--166432)

That is what surprises me, I don't know if he does it to show that he is not afraid or is too confident, but I think all this is about his same strategy, he doesn't want to hide anything, I don't know if maybe after him training that he does for everyone, he concentrates on his own and begins a much rougher, stronger training that demands a lot from his body and when he shows his training it is only a kind of warm-up with medium-effort exercises to enter with the intense, not I know, that occurs to me, because if I could do it, I would do it without thinking about it, with that my body becomes much stronger and by resisting all that stress, it is prepared for any type of blow.

I change my pick for this fight hehe. I was watching some of Kambosos highlights and also some highlights of Haney. It appears Haney is not very good in using the philly shell. I reckon Kambosos' left hook after the double jab will be there for Haney's head when he leans to his side heheheeh. This fight might become unpredictable after round 3 with a small advantage for Kambosos. Also, Haney is only 23 years old. He might not take the stress of fighting in Australia very well without Bill Haney with him.

Devin Haney is in a very combative mood right now.  He set himself the ambitious goal of defeating George Kambosos twice.  In this case, the fights will take place in Australia (in the homeland of George). 

Devin Haney is a great fighter.  He is called the second Floyd Mayweather (they have similar fighting styles).  Devin Haney dreams of the glory of the legendary boxer and millions of dollars.  He is an incredibly ambitious person.  Devin is an incredibly talented boxer, and with each fight he progresses, perfecting his fighting style. 

This young boxer has a very extensive arsenal of striking techniques.  He successfully uses both jabs and uppercuts.  He is also incredibly mobile and easily increases the distance with a partner. 

In my opinion, he will win the fight with George Kambosos.  In any case, a very interesting battle awaits us on June 5!

KO result is the only way to ensure that the fight is fair, when it comes to the judges, not everyone will approve of their decision because we are also biased as a fan. I don't know if we can expect an honest judging in this fight if it goes to the scorecards because we know that Pacman was once cheated in this country.

There have been already some strict rules that have been imposed so that the judges should be fair and just even if one of the two boxers is his fellow countryman or somewhat connected to each other. Every people are also a judge of the fight that's why they also know which one would be declared as a winner but they don't have some voices because only the real judges have the right to score and I know they are also aware of that fact.

Of course, Haney will be trying to win by knock out but that's hard to get since Kambosos always train hard and is always at the peak at the time of the fight, if the fight is too close, the hometown decision will play a big factor on the judges' decision, Haney should chase Kambosos and be more aggressive to impress the judges' of course he needs to score a lot and should hurt Kambosos if he wants to win the fight, Australian will be hostile because four titles is at stakes here and Kambosos is their boxing hero now.

It's not that he trains hard, it's either you have the chin or not, or if your opponent has the power. And in this case, Haney doesn't have that power so I doubt that he will win by a knock out.

On the other hard, Kambosos as he shows against Lopez, has good power in both hands, so it will be Haney who will used his boxing skills to avoid that shot. Maybe the judges this time will be fair for the American if he really boxes well against George and can win by decision.

It's interesting to watch this fight because regardless of anything, both boxers have something to motivate them so that they can be the last survivors in the ring.
But if you look at some footage on social media and some platforms now, it seems that Kmabasos is quite confident and has started to continue doing psy war Will Cut Haney & Drown Him (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xQyxLTrhQ4c)

Well that's the obvious meaning of boxing, trying to get a win by knocking the other guys out.

Hopefully there will be no hometown decision here, it should be not biased just because the fight is going to be held in Kambosos hometown. Yeah, I know about the Pacman vs Horn controversy, but I don't think they are going to made the same mistakes here.

Besides, this might be not end on judges scorecard for all we know and there could be a knock out.

In this case, it is clear that it is very unprofessional for the judge to take sides just because this is an area. regardless, it's quite funny if it really sided with just one fighter and indirectly they tarnished their own face for it.
The possibility for a knockout is still there and indeed in terms of calculation it is clear regardless of one region or one nationality this does not make a difference or become gold in the calculations because in sportsmanship there must be an objective assessment there.

I still hold to my view that Haney will keep looking for a knockout and will try to be very dominant so as to shut down any hometown decision, hometown decision is not a biased decision when a fight can go either way or to close to call the hometown decision will be a big factor, that is why boxers always opted for a neutral ground to avoid hometown decision when the fight is to close to call.

Sometimes we cannot avoid thinking that home town decision is biased, so in order to beat that, a boxer should knock out the hometown fighter to have a clear win. In this fight, I don't think Haney could KO Kambasos, yes, Haney is good but he is not so aggressive, he is more of a technical figher who followed the rules of "hit your enemy but don't get hit".

I agree. Both players are regarded as professionals and can really deliver powerful and quick punches and strikes, with footwork alongside it. It would be a tough fight for both of the players and surely they would dedicate their time left to prepare from the upcoming match. This game will decide so much for them about what the future holds. It's either they move forward or continue to pursue different title to keep in pace.

Regarding Loma which should be the one's opponent, it's really unfortunate that their country is still under chaos. A lot of military have sacrificed themselves already just to defend their country. I hope Loma will survive despite the current situation their country is in. We all know how scary and troublesome being in a warzone. What more if you'll be in the front line. Let's all pray for him so that he could get back into boxing once the conflict is resolved and his contract is over.

It's not that because Kambasos trained hard, it's because Haney is not that as aggressive as Kambasos, he is not a KO artist IMO. You cannot compare their training as both of them are surely training hard for this undisputed title fight, so it depends on their style in the ring, and if Haney gets careless, then most likely we will see a KO.

You have a point, but we cannot do about it as Devin Haney has also agreed with and if he didn't then the venue was relocated or the fight hasn't materialized. However, he even knew that this fight will be to his disadvantage because of the hometown decision but his power and style will be the ones to speak if he's truly capable of defeating Kambosos. There will be lots of people who will watch this event even the WBO to make sure that the fight will be fair.

Well looking at it from a more real point of view, I think that Haney will use this incident to win in honor of his father, it is unfortunate what happened to him, it is noteworthy that Haney must feel some pain because it is an event that can hit him hard emotionally, however, if he is strong enough, he will use this incident to his advantage.

This is more interesting, because now Kambosos can also use this news to strengthen himself even more, the mood if he usually hits any athlete harder, it is something that is intrinsic, more when it comes to family, when he needs more support In a fight.

Is Haney called the second Floyd Mayweather? Haney is still learning the philly shell. I reckon he is not as skilful as Floyd Mayweather with this defensive style. Watch the replay of Haney versus Jorge Linares. Haney was not as quick to avoid the punches when he went into a shell and bended to his right side. Kambosos will certainly see this as an opportunity for his double jab left hook.

Also, Haney is still very young and still learning. This unification might be taken very early in his career and in my own opinion, it should be taken later.

In my opinion, the statements of George Kambosos are a bluff. 

Kambosos tries to intimidate Devin Haney and cheer himself and his fans up.  It seems to me that George Kambosos is afraid of Devin Haney. 

Haney is very young, agile, fast.  For Kambosos, this is a very uncomfortable opponent. 

Devin Haney is constantly progressing.  Many write that he has not yet worked out the decisive knockout blow and it will be difficult for him to win by knockout. 

Yes, this is partly true. 

However, Devin is progressing with each new fight.  And now he is actively training. 

In my opinion, in this fight he will be able to knock out Kambosos.

It's not only on philly shell, but his play style is similar with Mayweather, but Haney is just the slow version. I watched Haney often hug his opponent on purpose, walking away in the ring and giving surprise punches when the opponent didn't expect it, that's what Mayweather do. The only difference I see between them is Haney doesn't confident to play  in the corner and not have really good head movements.

So what's your prediction on this fight? Are you with Haney or Kambasos?

If he is not as fast as Mayweather, then we can expect that Kambasos will have a decent chance of winning the fight, because aside from being a good counter puncher, and aggressive boxer, he is also fighting in his home country.

I'm with Devin Haney on this fight, they are taking his fight with Jorge Linares as a reference and it is true that Devin Haney is not as fast as Mayweather but he improved more on his next fight against Joseph Diaz which happened in the same year. Surely Haney have some equal or more chances of winning than Kambosos Jr. and the fact that he's been teasing Kambosos with that open media training and all means that he is really confident enough to defeat the latter.

Even though this is indeed a bluff, I think it is quite important because it is a good bluff in the beginning to see if the opponent's response is whether they will retaliate or will just accept and keep humbling themselves. on the other hand, it is also still quite useful to suppress some parties and increase the confidence that Kambosos has.

Haney has not said much so far but indeed he now looks like he will reply to statements like this with evidence of seriousness in the training he continues to do

For now it's really hard to see who will win, and even if Haney is the favorite, he will be boxing without his father on his side, so this is a big negative in my opinion.

On the other hand, George will be comfortable fighting at his native country, and has all the advantage in his favor. But Haney is known to be a technical fighter and this could be Kambosos weaknesses. If Haney is a brawler like Teofimo Lopez, then maybe George can impose his will. But if Haney play it safe and make it a very technical fight, Kambosos might find it difficult to adjust.

Here I think it is difficult to determine the winner in advance, yes, Haney is younger than Kambosos by 5 years, but at the same time he has more fights 27 against 20, he also wins more often by knockouts and therefore he should spend less time in the ring, but this is not so because he wins by knockouts usually in 3/4 of the fight. So I think in this fight the chances of boxers are about 50/50

I will go with Kambosos here, he will be motivated to proved that his win against Lopez is no fluke. And I agree that Haney is a very good boxer, skill wise. But he has a weak chin and Kambosos has power. So I'm just imagining that if George land that flush on Devin's chin, it will be over, regardless of what round he will land that. So George by KO might be a good odds to bet.

kambosos is too much for Haney. His punching speed, foot work, stamina are highly underated. And although he throws punches in an awkward angle, he's got good counter. He is indeed a student of Floyd. Unless Haney is smart enough to counter kambosos fast handspeed and good at cutting distance, there's a huge chance that he might be KO.

I like your confidence on Kambasos, because looking at the betting odds, looks like Haney is too much for Kambasos, but of course, let's see if who will win becasue this is definitely a great fight between the two undefeated champoions. I agree that Kambasos is underrated, I hope he will prove to us that he is a legit champion so he will gain the respect he deserve.

But that bluff doesn't change a thing and his chances won't change as it is somehow clear that he's uncomfortable with Haney's capabilities. Yes, Kambosos Jr. is quite good but his moves are quite predictable than Devin Haney which have some kind of style like Mayweather which makes him unpredictable. His still on progress but those figures are already good if we are going to compare it and Kambosos should look out for that counter punch because that could end him.

I think these boxers have an equal chance of winning because of the fact that they have their own different skillset, it will be just a matter of timing and correct execution to make a successful punch that could lead to a victorious but. Anyhow, there's also a chance of KO in both boxers but the chance is just slim as this would likely result into a UD. Expect a good fight people because I bet that's what we will see soon.

With the various psywars that he did, it was clear that he was not really happy with Haney so he decided to be aggressive from the start with the hope that Haney's side would be provoked and give a not too good response here.
He realized that Haney was quite dangerous right now and indeed he would definitely be in a bit of trouble in the Ring later and could be cornered so he did this to make an early splash. Even though it's like you said it would be a waste if Haney's side didn't respond and it would be like throwing a punch in the wind.

Might be a split decision for Kambosos? He did it against Lopez and actually in his 3 last fights. So this might likely be the case, going to the judges card and Haney winning on one judges and the other 2 giving it to Kambosos. I'm not seeing any knockout because both have a not so good percentage. But for sure this is one interesting fight, the war has started as they have been talking trash outside of the ring already.

Yes, it is practically clear that Kambosos is trying to get into Haney's head and provoking him that's why he is so aggressive right now. I bet he was more anxious now because Haney didn't respond vocally but instead, he invited the media into his training session and made it an open book to Kambosos. That answer provoked Kambosos instead! ;D

What you guys think of the winner of the Kambosos vs Haney directly goes to Tank Davis who just won over Romero via knockout? I think either of these two fighters are going to be a perfect match for Davis.

I mean if Haney wins then we have a technical fighter against a boxer in Davis.

And then if George wins, a brawler vs brawler, another exciting fight that could end in a knock out.

But we will have to find out soon, this fight will be next week already.

AFAIK, there's a rematch clause on this fight, so we will not see a new opponent of the winner right away, who knows, this rival might go to a trilogy, and that means Tank Davis has to look for another fighter so he will not be stagnant. I love what Tank Davis did, he knows himself that he is a knockout puncher but at the same time he doesn't underestimate his opponent, he was very smart in that just recently concluded fight with Romero.

If there is a rematch clause then Tank will have to look for other opponents, but I'm not sure who is he going to face next, Romero is asking for a rematch with him, but I don't see Davis giving him that opportunity again as he said on the post fight.

Loma is still busy in his native country of Ukraine, while Ryan Garcia might be the logical option, or even Lopez if he can still make the LW division.

Romero has to move on, he will not get a rematch with Davis as that was a very clear win. Davis will instead look for an opponent that has a good record and could him create a good fight. Romero was given a chance, his chance is now over.

Even if there is a rematch,  there's a possibility that it will not push through depending on the result of the fight, if one boxer knocks out the other or the other boxer fully dominated the other fighter, the rematch is only good right now if it's going to attract support and promoters can still make money, it will attract more attention if the winner of the Haney- Kambosos match meet Gervonta Davis.

You are right, it depends on the outcome of the first fight, if it's a one-sided fight, then most likely promoters will not see a rematch as good for the business. The winner of this might have a chance to fight with Tank if he will accep the challenge of Tank. I like to see Kambosos vs Davis, seems a great match for both aggressive boxers.

That's a sign though of sour loser as he can't move on. And I agree that he has his chance but didn't make the best of it. Rolly might have a good boxing future because everyone talks about his power, but they shouldn't let him fight the champion this early at his career because he is going to be destroyed as he lacks the experience. I'm thinking that he could be a good match against Isaac "the Pitbull' Cruz next. Two hard nose fighter with very good power. But we will see what Floyd next option will be for Romero.

Losing the first time via knockout is such a bad experience but Rolly will learn, but he should change his attitude and maybe change his trainer, it's not always power that wins the match it's always timing and getting the upper hand at the right time, and this is why Haney and Kambosos are ahead of the pack they are patient, they are not seeker they know that it will come when they work on the opportunity and the right timing and this is what Romero totally lack, Romero is good for level B fighters but for level A he'll have a hard time adjusting.

Yes, Romero is actually a good boxer but unfortunately, just as you said, he was matched to a much more experienced boxer with some hopes that his records will speak for him as well as his knockout percentage which is indeed high but his opponent, Tank Davis have more impressive KO rate and record than him.

I'm thinking of two good opponents for Romero, judging the way he fight, I agree with Isaac Cruz and I'll also add Ryan Garcia. Three young generations with talents.

Lopez was not smart in that fight, we cannot compare him to Haney because Haney is a technical fighter, it doesn't matter if he will bore the crowd as long as he controls the fight and in the end, he will get the judges decision. The only way Kambasos could win is to stay aggressive, and pressure Haney until he commits mistakes that would lead to an opening for a clean shots by him.

You cannot be great if you're not smart, ring IQ is very important you don't go inside the ring only thinking that you will knock out your opponent this has caused Lopez and now Romero, overconfidence is good, boasting about what you will do inside the ring is not, going back to Haney and Kambosos, its a game of wait and see as both fighters are known to be very patient, but like what I said Haney should take the initiative and should make it appear that he is a more superior fighter, he is up against a hostile crowd and a hometown decision.

Exactly, he cannot be too complacent in this fight, he has to win the vote of the judges, so in case it will go to the scorecards, he has a big chance of winning the fight. There's no assurance that Haney will win if he cannot finish it by KO, because Kambasos is in his hometown, and based on the past events that was held in this country, the home team usually wins.

Exactly, too bad for Romero because he was matched against Gervonta Davis even if they were under the same promotion. In my opinion, Mayweather isn't fully after the money but because he wanted Romero to defeat the Tank Davis and give him a scratch in his record with a bad blood before he leave the said promotion. But Davis is just too much for the kid, his records were good and it was kind of a waste because he was put to against the Tank.

I definitely agree about that! IQ is important whether they are inside or outside the ring, instead it's more helpful and needed outside the ring because that's the most times where they decide whether it's time for a fight or if it's futile to go for it. Having the ability to be patient and balance things is a must have, Romero and Lopez surely don't have those qualities. They are just looking at the picture where they need to defeat heavy opponents without seeing the whole picture that it's too soon for them.

Yeah, and inside the ring, great boxers learn to adjust and maybe Haney have  this IQ. During their last face off there are some heated arguments again. Kambosos doesn't believed that Haney has it to beat him. He put a summary that he went far and beyond in his boxing as compare to Haney who he described as just being gifted by his belt that he is holding. Just a couple more days and we will see who is going to be the undisputed at 135 lbs.

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Few more days before fight night. Unified champion George Kambosos is pumped and ready. It is time to test the WBC e-mail champ, Devin Haney. We will see if the young e-mail champion has what it takes to become undisputed. Despite defending his championship belts the first time, I still believe that Kambosos is more tested and more experienced in world level. While Haney was in the US defending his belt, George was travelling around the globe and fought opponents in their own backyards. George will take this kid somewhere he's never been, in deep waters.     

Lopez was a champion before he fought with Kambosos, he's risking all of his belts for nothing. I believe he suppose Kambosos is easy boxer for him, though I'm not sure either Lopez cherry pick Kambosos, or Kambosos want to challenge Lopez at that time. I think Lopez is a good boxer, but he didn't expect Kambosos will beat him as we can see he fallen on the first round.

Nice optimism mate, but the bookies tell otherwise :D
However I'm also on Kambosos side, surely he will be motivated when he was beat Lopez and won't being or underestimate his opponent.

^^ Because Kambosos was the mandatory of the IBF belt that Lopez hold that time. So he is obliged to fight him. Kambosos beat Lee Shelby to become the mandatory challenger for Lopez then. But we all know what happens next as Kambosos won in a split decision.

Now, he has to defend it against Haney this coming Sunday. Well there's nothing wrong in betting the champion here as the underdog, maybe he can pull it off again.

It is still the same, and if we really compare it thoroughly, Devin Haney is the one who is more tested and has more experience than Kambosos. Certainly that doesn't mean that Kambosos is more experienced just because he fought in 6 different countries, while the challenger, Devin Haney has only fought his fights in North America (USA and Mexico).

If we're talking about being pumped up and ready, surely both of them will be ready but Kambosos cannot hide his anxiousness against Haney. I mean, he's trying to get into the head of Haney but the latter didn't even respond.

For me, Haney will seek to take advantage of his tremendous knockout streak to do the same with KAMBOSOS. There is something that should be highlighted in boxers of this style is that in the first round they will seek to tire them out in order to take advantage of their fatigue, Haney I put about 4 rounds on him fighting with all his strength, taking out everything he has in resistance and if he doesn't achieve anything, a knockout or something like that, he will wait for the other rounds to resist, it is for this reason that Haney must be in a very hard training to be able to withstand the blows of Kambosos.

It also seems to me that betting on Kambosos is a good option, since he is formally an underdog and the odds for him are very attractive - 2.6. And the result of this fight is far from obvious, for example, Pacquiao believes that Cambasos will be the winner. In the fight with Lopez, Cambasos was also an underdog, but he won one way or another, I think in the fight with Haney he will try to be the first number and fight from the very beginning. It is believed that Haney is less dangerous in terms of knockout, so he can afford such activity from the very beginning.

Aside from that, the fight will be held on his own home soil and that is in-fact his advantage because he have his fellow countrymen around the ring and the venue to cheer for him and give him a boost of confidence whenever he needs it. Betting on the champion which is an underdog in this fight is not a bad thing to do because if it turns out that he will be the hailed winner again then that bet will turn into huge bucks. As for Haney, the challenger, this is his first time traveling abroad. We will see soon how would he react to the fight when the audience is not on his favor.

Maybe this is good enough but if you look at it from another angle, I still feel that Haney is currently able to overcome Kambosos.
Regardless, Kambosos has been talking too much lately, it seems, and this clearly indicates that he is still anticipating Haney's move and still doesn't know what method to use against Haney in the future.

Ohh, I missed this one. I thought that Kambosos has all 4 belts in his hand but it is only three as Haney has the WBC belt.

Same here, I also believed that the Australian has an edge in terms of experience, and being the sparring partner of Manny Pacquiao before, that could have some boost on his career. I don't know why bookies have put Haney as the favorite in this fight, he has not fought big names yet though he won against Linares and Gamboa but both were in the twilight of their careers and they were made a stepping stone for young boxers with potentials to become world champions.

Odds at the moment if this fight goes the distance:

Haney 1.88  Kambosos 3.25

Yes, that's one thing, fighting in a hostile crowd, I don't think that Haney has tried that before. And in Australia, for sure it's all gonna be Kambosos and he will surely be affected mentally even though he will not admit it.

So I agree, at the current odds, Kambosos is a live underdog. Most likely the odds could shift a big, but still a 3:1 or 4:1 underdog, it is very attractive odds.

There's so much at stake in this fight the winner will be the undisputed lightweight champion he gets all the major belts and fame and fortune will be coming in whoever wins these four titles, between the two even though Haney is the favorite he is under pressure because it's not a neutral corner, the Australian is one of a hostile crowd, and officiating is not fair and compared to the Pacquiao fight, there's so much at stake at this fight for the Australian people.

Kambosos is actually holding 5 belts at the moment; The Ring, WBA Super, IBF, WBO and WBC Franchise. But Kambosos can only defend and unify the WBA Super, IBF and WBO belts. 

The Ring belt is the most prestigious belt in boxing but it is not a sanctioning body unlike WBA, WBC, IBF and WBO. The Ring belt is an award from The Ring magazine aka the bible of boxing. Not all divisions have Ring champions because it is only given to the clear champion of a division. If Haney can win clearly then it is obvious that The Ring will award him this belt. 

WBC Franchise belt was a failed attempt by the WBC to create another major belt in a division. In order to free champions from WBC mandatories especially if you are holding many belts and you're a super star wherein picking opponents are mostly based on the financial side, the WBC made this belt. It is supposedly an upgraded WBC belt version like the Super WBA belt from its WBA regular belt. Franchise belts are not well received in boxing community and is not branded as a major or legit belt.

If Franchise belts were considered as the real WBC belts then Teofimo Lopez and then Kambosos would've been undisputed by now since it was Lomachencko's WBC belt that was upgraded into a Franchise belt. The WBC then e-mailed Haney (then WBC interim champion) that he was elevated into a full WBC champion thus many calling him as the e-mail champ since he never won the real belt from an actual fight.

The WBA Super is an upgraded WBA regular belt. The boxing community branded the Super WBA belt as WBA's major belt in a division thus the WBA regular belt can only become legit and major when there is no Super WBA champion in a division. Thus, Tank Davis is like a fake champion in lightweight.   
     
I haven't bet on a decision because Kambosos knockout record is underrated. His last three opponents were all former world champions and he knocked downed two of them. And I saw the e-mail champ getting hurt several times. Kambosos might stop this kid.   

You should bet now, Kambasos is really underrated, and the fact that he is still undefeated now, that says a lot that he is really a good boxer. Haney is just favored because of his great boxing talent, but a knockout artist for me is fun to watch compared to a technical boxer that sometimes would only be boring.

I already bet twice on Kambosos to win mate.

Fv*k the bookies mate. :D So far i'm still undefeated on my underdog betting picks this year.
Paul Butler 4+
Katie Taylor 2+
Dmitry Bivol 3+
 
Devin Haney didn't beat someone to take the WBC belt. He became the WBC champion thru e-mail. Baby Haney was babysit his whole professional career. He cannot swim in deep waters. And no dad on his side either to calm him down in times of trouble. I give him the respect by coming to Australia though but he is fighting the wrong guy.
https://i.imgur.com/6TS3YNL.jpg

Kambasos at 3.25, that's a good steal.

The fact that he is playing in front of the home crowd, we can expect that he will fight harder as he is more motivated to win. With this kind of odds, it seemed like bookies does not see Kambasos as a champion who has a good chance of beating Haney.

The words are underrated and underestimated.

I am more excited about this fight than all the other fights that started this year including the Romero - Davis fight, I know that Haney is good but I haven't seen him challenged this way against an undefeated fighter who beat the man who beat the man and on his opponent's territory if he can beat Kambosos decisively and unanimously he will be considered as the best than all the other lightweight in this area, better than Davis, or Garcia.

Yea, I remember that fight. That was too embarrassing on Lopez's side because the fight was held at his hometown yet the underdog Kambosos beat him good and managed to pin him down on the first round and eventually the latter won the match by a split decision. I don't have a doubt about Lopez because he was and is still so good, it's just that he committed few mistakes on the first round by coming so hot and aggressive but when he tasted a good left hook from the challenger, he slowed down. He can still get a revenge on that fight because he is still young and I believe he can upset the new lightweight champ.

Of course he has a chance, the result of the fight is not predetermined and both fighters can win. But if we assume that they have approximately equal chances (which, in my opinion, is justified), then it is obvious that it is better to bet on an underdog, since a bet on Haney will bring you only 59% profit, while a bet on Kambosos can bring 132% ( yes, I see that the chances have changed and the odds for Kambosos have been lowered).

If you believe so that Kambosos will be the hailed winner in this fight then you should also bet. The odds are just too tempting to see mate and that's is also why I chose to bet in Kambosos favor. In-fact, this is good because Kambosos is the underdog here even if he is the champion, I reckon he should be called as the champion of the underdogs lol.

I assume that Devin will just be an instrument to give some challenges to the champion and push him into his limits, in that way, Kambosos will be explode just like what he did to Lopez in the first round.

I don't think it's like that, I will not look at the Odds at this time but I will look to the other side, even though Kambosos is now highly motivated but don't forget Haney is also risking his WBC belt and of course this will be a fight because it is both This boxer has something at stake.
But Haney's record of 27 wins with 15 KOs is certainly not something that can be considered an Instrument now.

The Romero-Davis fight wasn't that interesting to me too, we know the latter cherry-picked the fight, and Romero accepted the fight because Mayweather wants to defeat Davis as this is his last fight before he leaves under Mayweather's promotion. We already knew what would happen because Romero is really too early facing the Tank.

As for this fight, these two boxers are good and they have the same chance of winning. The thing that got me interested is because they have unique abilities.

I don't think that Kambosos can get Haney the way he knock down Lopez in round 1. Lopez is careless in that fight and thinks he can just bulldozed his way. Haney is a thinking fighter and a technical one, yes, he has questionable chin and that's what makes him a defensive fighter because he can't just brawl as he can easily get knock out. Maybe his strategy is to frustrate Kambosos in this fight, maybe a few hugs here and there in the first couple of rounds to test George patience.

That is why it's good to bet for Kambosos this time because his chance of winning is high and the odds are so tempting/attractive at least for me.

Bookies may have placed Kambosos as the underdog because he only fought once for the championship for that mandatory fight and they think that he still lacks the experience to defend those belts he has right now.

I hope that this fight won't be boring because the two are more of a counter-punchers thus I expect this to go the distance.

Yeah but maybe bookies forget that the fight will be in Australia hometown of Kambosos?

And I also do agree that he is a good underdog in this fight, although he doesn't have the experience, but he shows heart and resiliency when he defeats Teo Lopez.

So maybe he will show more here specially that he will be fighting in front of his fans. I don't think it will be boring, Kambosos is going to be the aggressor and will test Devin's chin if it can hold up against his power punches.

That should be a factor already but Haney has proven his worth in the ring he is the new version of Mayweather, not a very exciting fighter but always takes home the win.


It's Teo Lopez's mistake he has no plan and is uncontrollable he is fighting with emotions


I have seen him in so many of his fights and he is always the aggressor, the flow of the fight is very much expected, Kambosos is the aggressor and Haney will be countering a lot, it will be interesting who will have a better fight plan.

^^ Or who has the better skills to adjust as the round progresses. If Haney frustrates Kambosos, then what he will do after? or if Kambosos is hitting Haney at will, how will Haney cover to avoid getting a knock out?

So this is really a good match in paper, Haney might have a slight advantage in height, but it doesn't matter, I think it's negligible. So we will find out tomorrow, who will adjust more and has better strategy.

News update.

George Kambosos did not make the weight by .36 pounds. I am not certain what time was the weigh-in, however, Kambosos will be given only 2 hours to make the weight. Also, good news for Devin Haney bettors hehe. His father was given a last minute visa to enter Australia to be with his son during the fight.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=KpCFxOxoKxM

The confidence of Haney will certainly pump and Kambosos' confidence might dump hehehe. I will not change my pick, however.

Thanks mate, wow, So Kambosos didn't make the weight in his own country? however, .36 lbs I think he can shred it in just under 2 hours and make the contractual weight in this fight.

I guess the Victorian government wanted to make the fight 'fair' by having Haney's father on his side during this fight. And it's good that Haney's promotion (not sure if it is Eddie Hearn's matchroom), because for sure they have help the case of his father to get a visa ASAP.

Yeah, but Kambosos is really going to be dry and his body needs to re hydrate more in the next 24 hours. Perhaps it was an overlook on his team or maybe the scale has problems too we don't know. Because Haney is under the weight while George went over by just a hair.

Anyhow, the fight is tomorrow already, and if ever he makes weight then all the trask talk and bad mouthing is done and we can see who is the better of the two.

Update: George Kambosos make the weight in the 2nd attempt.


https://www.boxingscene.com/george-kambosos-jr-13449-makes-weight-on-second-attempt-undisputed-clash-with-devin-haney--166714

So he weight at 134.49 lbs, however, the twist is that George admitted that he done it in purpose to throw Haney to believed that he is not going to make it.


Do you agree though that he did it on purpose?

@Dave1. No hehehe. He very much certainly did not do that on purpose. However, I disagree with @Kemarit. Kambosos did not appear to have a difficult time in removing the excess weight. It might be only another 1 hour of Kambosos sitting in the sauna bath.

The real art of war is inside the ring not outside of it, if he did it on purpose its useless Haney is very much into it, he has faced a lot of adversaries in the past, this is a cheap trick, finally, the boxers are both heated up heading into the fight Haney will be motivated now that his father is at his side, its just fair that they let him get into Australia, so to avoid accusations that they are lenient on their champion.

Of course not. What kind of fool would do that on purpose? It was really a failure. But it was good that they were able to make the required weight the second time around. Art of war? Deception? No, baby, it wasn't art of war. Art of war is not telling your enemies your plan, not proclaiming it. It's not deception either. It is not deception if you're saying it is deception. And why would you be exerting effort on this? The war hasn't even begun yet.

George turns a that negativity and then used it as a weapon. But I doubt that it's very effective though, if you look at it, just a fraction of 1 lbs. You can sweet it out, by doing some light mitts in the gym go back in the weighing scale and make the weight. Maybe he is saying that truth though that he had coffee, and maybe that's the reason why he retain the weight.

So it's not done on purpose, he was just caught and most probably him and his team are very surprised as well that's why he has to strip and weight many times before they announced what his official weight-in. Of course he was given special treatment by the lady but she has to be firmed that George was indeed over the weight in the first try.

Nope.

If you don't want yourself to be a shame in the public, you must make a statement like you are embracing what happened and turn things out in a positive way and that is what Kambosos did. No boxer in the world will purposely make himself underweight just for the sake of "art of war or deception".

I also don't agree, like what Haney just said in their weigh in real champions make weight there's no reason why he should employ that, this is the first time I read that you make yourself overweight just to deceive your opponent if you are really in the tip top condition and you are well-conditioned you do everything in the ring, not outside of the ring tactic that could back fire to you

I agree with most users here Kambosos isn't doing that for a purpose, but more like an excuse. I wouldn't expect Kambosos will gently admitting his mistake and explain it as good boy since his images on boxing career are an arrogant and trash talking person, but he's not underestimating his opponent or taking easy about it. Haney wouldn't get intimidated with that, it's a normal thing in boxing.

Kambosos shouldn't over confident enough since he already own 4 belts, he need to put in his mind if he was still a challenger so he can more focus to beat Haney.

I read that one of his idols and the one he looks up to is Manny Pacquiao but unfortunately, he did not emulate or imitate his character as a humble person, he is quite arrogant a long shot from Manny Pacquiao's character he should show respect and welcome Haney since Haney agreed to fight in his turf given that officiating there is bad, anyway good luck to the winner, Kambosos is an underdog but I doubt it will show up in the fight, the fight for me will turn out even and who got the best plan and training will get the win.

He has spared with Manny in the past, that's why he looks up to him and I guess that's one advantage of Kambosos against the current breed of 135 lbs because he got to trained with the legendary. Maybe he got his work ethics and that's what George bring into the discussion with Haney or even in the Kambosos fight.

I love though how George twist that not making the weight and says that it's just a psyche war and trying to get into Haney's head.

Haney is ready for that, both are champions and they are both ready physically and mentally. George has to be confident because he is fighting in front of his fans, he is representing his country, and if he wins, that brings glory to the country.

IMO, for this fight to not last a trilogy, Kambasos has to beat Haney by KO, a defeat that Haney will never forget.

Well, we do hope that he can really back up his antics and trash talking here. So it's either his actions tonight will make him great or idiot if he losses and then blame that he is weight drain.

So now he will have an excuse because he didn't make the weight the first try. Haney said that he is dry, while he looks he has made the weight comfortability without draining itself. Of course if he can back all the talks then a knock out win will be just the final nail in the coffin for Haney.

Kambosos is the underdog but here in Bitcointalk it's even right now, Haney is my bet to win here but the fight could still go either way, Haney cannot be complacent he is fighting in hostile territory, he must not make the fight close if the fight is close although he dominates it, there's a possibility of a draw if the fight is close and could go either way, Kambosos can take the fight to satisfy the Australian people, and there could be a rematch, of course, promoters will be happy to see a rematch.

George Kambosos vs Devin Haney
George Kambosos   - 16 (50%)
Devin Haney   - 16 (50%)
Total Voters: 32

I wouldn't change my mind on betting for Haney. Kambosos' arrogance is ruining his character in this field. However, he's indeed promising in his previous fights but I believe that he couldn't beat Haney by knocking out or even by unanimous decision. Haney seems too ready for this fight and I guess he will prove that everything Kambosos said is wrong.

Actually in this case I still want to be in Kambosos but if you see him who talks a lot right now like he shows fear and always does other ways to shake Haney mentally in Psywar which he does and this makes me not too sure about this fight.
From a technical point of view, these two boxers are not far apart and can still be said to be equal but on the other hand I still feel that Haney will still be better

Yes, they are both ready to have their much-awaited fight. Although, Kambosos have some minor problems in the meantime because he didn't make it to the needed weight but as far as I know, he was given 2 hours right? I wonder what's the update about that because by now there's already a news about whether he did make it or did not.

The fight won't also reach for a rematch if one of them will win by a KO or TKO. However, if it's a close decision then there would be a possible rematch. About the trilogy, that's too early to tell because this is their 1st fight.

This. Even if he won against Teo, it will be hard to keep your position on top as everyone is going to chase you. And that's what is happening here, Haney is willing to travel and face him on the road. So he shouldn't be complacent because Haney is a good fighter. On the contrary, if he see the odds, he is the underdog here. That alone says that he need to be 100% in this fight, mind and body. And that antics he pulled in the weigh-in is not cool in the eyes of boxing fans. His father though has arrived and be in his corner tonight.

It's over now guys, Haney won comfortably, scores were: 116-112, 116-112 and 118-110.

The key? Haney's jab, Kambosos can't get inside because Haney is throwing that jab and makes it a technical fight and unfortunately, George can't adjust and during the championships round, you can see his frustrations as he tries to rough off Devin. Easy W.

I would say it's a boring fight, as some of us is expecting. Haney's style, but that's sweet science. Not sure if a rematch is needed here, it might be the same outcome. Congrats to those who bet on Haney to win by decision, not sure what the odds are, as I go with Kambosos here and thinks that he has a chance to win in his home court.

Travelled to fight Kambosos in his own country, then without his father in the beginning, fight in a ring wherein 50,000 fans wanted his to lose.

Haney becoming the undisputed lightweight champion at 23 years old!!!

I felt like I was watching Rigondeaux tonight. One of the most boring fights I've seen in a while. A rematch would be pointless and would only hold up potential big fights that we have been wanting to see for a long time. It's time for Haney, Davis, Shakur and Loma to start facing each other.

Haney seems like already understand the next move that will do by Kambosos, while Kambosos didn't find a right way to outbox Haney. This what Haney want in the ring, a stance style, Kambosos can't fight toe to toe and he's worried of Haney's surprise punch. Too bad for Kambosos to act very confident yesterday, now he need to start to get his belts back. if there's a rematch, Kambosos will be huge underdog for sure.

Shakur stevenson is still on super featherweight division and not yet become undisputed, Haney vs Davis will be most interesting match, but I'd say Davis will scared to risk his belt.

I'm expecting a boring fight because both are more of a counter-puncher but the good thing with Haney is he much quicker than Kambosos and never tired of firing that jab to keep Kambosos at bay. This is boxing, you hit and don't get hit lol, sometimes people wouldn't understand that so this may put Haney's reign as the unified champion short-lived because people are craving for him to face Loma who is more technical than him and for me the top-dog on this division.

He is a better version of Rigondeaux, Haney has done his assignment he showed us the sweet science of boxing, hit and not get hit although he is the undisputed lightweight champion I cannot consider him an all-time great, he has mastered the art of ducking holding and staying within range I don't see the power in his hands, like all the other boxers in his division.

anyway a win is still a win he will now be the most sought boxer and the likes of Garcia, Davis, and Shakur will target him, I like him to face Loma so we can see who is the better tactician in the ring.

Pretty much disappointed on the performance of Kambosos here. He was really schooled by Haney's super jab and defense as he was not hit clean in this fight. You can see his face still clean after 12 rounds while George face is somewhat battered by that stiff jab the Haney throws all throughout the fight. I guess Kambosos 15 minute of fame is over now. The belt is going back to the US and for sure American fighters are now going to chase Haney.

The total scores say it all, not even close. Yeah, we were expecting that Kambosos with his aggressiveness will give Haney trouble, but it didn't happen, it was a one-sided fight and I think there's no need for a rematch on this fight as it's very obvious that we will still see the same winner in the rematch.

Exactly, it was clearly dominated by Haney, the technical fighter who won the fight and it's no surprise because he was the favorite to win going to this fight. As a fan, we are expecting a very entertaining fight but what we saw was a boring one, technical fighters should be banned, LOL. Kidding.

9 out of 10, Haney will beat Kambosos anytime of the day. And Devin made George look amateurish in that fight, Lol. You don't know what Kambosos is trying to accomplished, is she doing the Philly shell stance? with his elbow outside? Just like what Romero did against Tank Davis. But this time, George didn't adapt and just used one strategy, that is try to overwhelm Haney which is very obvious in the first 3 rounds that it is going to work and his corner didn't give him good advise.

Kambasos is a heavy hitter, however, he is not fast enough to hit Haney, and with Haney's perfect jab, it hurt Kambasos and lost his confidence to get inside and be more aggressive. I think he already knows that he will lose the fight, it's just bad for him because he didn't make the right adjustment so the fight ended up a one sided fight.

I don't understand why Kambosos was trying to outbox a very technical boxer like Haney aside from being the shorter fighter and shorter reach. I was expecting Kambosos to turn the fight into a brawl by throwing combinations of 3 to 5 punches. He was too late to let his hands go and lost his belts. He can still activate the rematch clause in Australia though. But with that boring fight outcome, it is hard to expect another 40,000+ audience in Australia. So I won't be surprised if the rematch happens in different location. Top Rank and ESPN might look for better alternative locations.    

I also expected that you cannot be a passive fighter against a technical fighter, you have to take out his game and make him off balance, Kambosos did not take chance or was afraid to take a chance, Haney is a better fighter, way better fighter in this fight, with Haney's technical superiority he could better Ryan Garcia or Tank Davis the boxing community doesn't deserve a rematch, it only applies if the match is close, but it is not.

This fight turned out to be too boring due to the tactics of Kambosos, who hoped for the whole fight on pressure, but Haney easily depart it and looked much more skillful in boxing. The revanche could have been different if Kambosos had prepared a different tactic, but now hardly anyone wants to see it.
I agree with you about other fights, but unfortunately Loma is still in the war and it is not known when he will be able to return to boxing.

First off, let's take out Rigondeaux from the picture and I think he doesn't even deserved to be mentioned here. I know what's your point mate but Rigo is different, he is nowhere near these boxers and the fight might be boring, yes but I didn't see Kambosos or Haney running and made the boxing a chasing game just like Rigo did.

And we got what we expected from the fight, Haney's technicality overwhelmed Kambosos Jr., some said that it was a boring fight but they didn't understand that Haney is playing smart because he quite knew that Kambosos will look to get close as much as possible but Haney didn't let that happen as he used his reach advantage and jab to keep him outside the latter's reach.

Funny thing is that Ryan Garcia keeps on showcasing himself to have a spotlight even though he's not prepared to face any of these boxers, his team keeps cherry picking just to keep him straight from that brain disorder he got ;D He even criticized Haney and trash talked Tank Davis that he is next with Kambosos also in line.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tmDLuG1HhRY

Yeah, Devin Haney won comfortably by a unanimous decision. I'm glad that the fight was clean and fair as the judge are not biased and gave a proper score as it's really evident that Kambosos was owned by Haney's strategies. Although the fight was boring but that's already expected because Haney is a technical boxer and likes to play it safe and smartly.

And that's what he said in the post fight interview, he will activate the rematch clause and fight again in Australia. No doubt about the fans really being disappointed by the outcome because their hero didn't win the fight and then boo'ed Haney.

I think it was round 7 when Kambosos try to let go of his hands. But it's kinda late, majority of the round have been scored on favor of Haney and he is very much comfortable using his jab and then clinch to stop George's momentum.

As was a big possibility, Haney would bank on his reach advantage. This was mainly how Kambosos was defeated. Kambosos never had the chance to really exchange blows with Haney. Haney was satisfied not being hurt but not also hurting the opponent for as long as the points are in his favor. He came into the ring as a practical boxer, probably not even planning on schooling or knocking out Kambosos. He was there to simply make points and win however boring it might mean to the fans and everyone else.

Yes, but it seems that George Kambosos is going to execute the rematch clause and wanted to get his revenge and so most likely in the next 6 months or early next year we might see the rematch, he specifically says that it's on Australia again. But who knows maybe it's better for George not to fight in front of his fans and should go to US just like what he did when he upset Teofimo Lopez.

However, it was the correct game plan for Haney because Kambosos is very good in timing his opponents if they are always going in very much similar to Teofimo Lopez. It appears Haney's father has learned from Lopez's fight more than Lopez and told his son not to make those mistakes hehehe. It is also very impressive that only at 23 years old, the young Haney has managed the mental pressure like an old veteran of boxing.

In any case, what would be next for Haney if the rematch does not happen? Who would be more challenging for him? Lomachenko, Tank Davis or King Ryan?

I thought I'm the only one who felt the boredom while watching those 2 boxers fighting.
I think that's what you can expect from a boxer who is more of a defensive one and a counter puncher. The audiences are also silent as well because nothing really is happening between the two.

No need for rematch for this one because it's boring (for me) and it would be better if Haney will fight another opponent. Maybe let's move on with the boring fight and wait for the Inoue-Donaire match.

Loma is currently having a war I guess. Ryan Garcia? I'm not underestimating King Ry but I think he can't defeat him. Maybe Tank Davis would be the best option but let's see if this match will happen.

Let's put it this way, Haney just sign a contract with Bob Arum's TR, George Kambosos is also in that banner and so he Loma. And with that, it's going to be a win-win for TR, either way it's all going to be in-house first. So it by chance Haney won the rematch, then Loma will go back because all the belts are all in the line. He can't refused that offer.

And let Davis, Ryan fight. I think Teo Lopez will have a first crack anyways, as he is also with TR. Just sad that how boxing politics works, in house fight first.

Well, the younger boxer Haney defeated Kambosos and although it is difficult to call him spectacular, Haney won a well-deserved victory and now it remains to wait for the promised rematch. And what are the predictions for the upcoming super heavyweight bout on June 11 at the Casino Miami Jai Alai arena Trevor Bryan vs Daniel Dubois?

As much as we don't appreciate or at least doesn't like the way Haney fights, he took out Kambosos and becomes the undisputed. And now it seems that we look forward for a rematch. Again, could be a sleeper fight again but boxing fans are going to pay for this match again specially that it will still be held in Kambosos backyard.


We have a separate thread about it mate, BRYAN VS DUBOIS : 12 Rounds For The WBA World Heavyweight Championship June 11  (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5399335.0)

The rematch is not exciting anymore, what's on the rematch that will make boxing fans to be excited again, and what will make them pay for the rematch, Kambosos just become all talk but he didn't show anything, he is totally outclassed I like both fighters to meet other fighters, and maybe in the future, they will meet again but an immediate rematch will not excite the boxing fans, the coming match between Inoue and Donaire can even eclipse and forget the fight.

They won't generate good revenue in this rematch because people already see who will win the fight. If only Kambasos gave a good fight, then maybe the rematch will be interesting, I think they should look for another match up, and as for Haney, I think there's lots of champions waiting for him.

That's better than going for a rematch and yet we will see the same result.

Kambasos can't beat a technical fighter, period. He is only good if his opponent is willing to fight him toe to toe.
This fight is just like Canelo vs Mayweather, though Canelo is great but he was shooled by Mayweather.

In fact, a good example is Floyd and Canelo, who also won the technical fighter in this match. Haney was really technical and played his own game throughout the whole fight, not letting his opponent down. The left straight was so fast that Kambasos couldn't even see these shots, but if we add the distance advantage, he set up a fully effective left straight game. I don't think much will change if there is a rematch. Favorite won and undefeated

Yup, you have a point. The rematch is not interesting anymore to see as the scores aren't that close enough, the fans tried to lift up Kambosos and cheer him to defend his title but he disappointed his fellow compatriots in his own backyard. We didn't see any aggressive Kambosos and it turns out that he's only full of talks when he is faced against the now undisputed champion, Devin Haney.

That's if Devin Haney will agree to give him a rematch, for sure Haney knows that it would be a total waste of time giving Kambosos his rematch because as you guys said, the score says it all. And if let's say that Haney will agree, I doubt he will agree to have the fight in Australia again. It would be held in Las Vegas where he lives, he is now the undisputed champion and Kambosos ain't got a voice now.

As far as the other Haney fights that I watched, this is the same Haney. This is not a different Haney, somebody who had made necessary adjustments against Kambosos. Haney always makes use of his long reach by his excellent jabs. He always effectively maintains the distance. That's why I thought Kambosos would really have to get inside and release his most powerful punches there. If not, he'd be like a sitting duck. But the fight is done and Kambosos is probably asking for a rematch.

And that is what Haney is saying even before the fight, at their first press conference that he will take away Kambosos best weapon. So we clearly se what he was saying, George is aggressive so he will make him off-balance if he goes inside by that stiff jab of his and not let him get inside. Very effective strategy up to the last round as Kambosos can't do anything about those jabs as he can't hit Haney clean with his power punches not like in the Lopez fight.

Agreed. The politics is preventing the sport from giving the best superfights for the fans. Similar to Pacman versus Floyd Mayweather, it came very late. Amir Khan versus Kell Brook, also very late. However, Devin Haney who is only 23 years old, I would not disapprove to see him fight Lomachenko and Lopez to build his name before fighting Tank Davis and King Ry who are also only 27 and 23. Lightweight championship boxing will certainly be very entertaining for the next 5 years hehehe.

He don't have a choice, Kambosos confirmed that there is a rematch clause and Haney sign that contract. So if there is one person that will have to agree, that is Haney, otherwise Kambosos will go to arbitration similar to what Wilder and Fury went.

Of course, Kambosos is don'ts have voice, but then again, he gave Haney an opportunity and Devin has to honor the written contract and part of the negotiations. Whether we like it or not, and if ever the fight is going to be in Australia, it can still make fans buy that ticket because they wanted to see George again and hoping that he will win in the rematch.

Yes, would love to se that fight, Haney vs Loma and Lopez. Just a question on who is going to get a crack first. Either one of them will be surely bring more PPV and live gates as they are bankable as well. Just up to Top Rank as what they think the best options, money wise. Davis can Ryan can also fight, another great match for us. And so this 135 lbs is pretty much stack up right now and this can carry over if this 4 to 5 fighters decided to move to 140 lbs in the next years.

It was smart boxing on Haney's part, but since Kambosos couldn't change his straightforward tactics throughout the fight or succeed with the tactics he had originally chosen, the fight really turned out to be boring. Plus, if we take into account the expectations from this fight (two boxers without defeats) and compare with the result, then of course this is a complete failure in terms of show.

Even the fans and the people who watched the fight surely knows that the promoter and boxers have failed to give a much more entertaining fight but what they saw is the exact opposite of what they expect and also their home boy was defeated in front of their eyes by a foreign challenger, Devin Haney.

Frankly, we expected that the Kambosos will be aggressive just like his previous fights and would gladly accept the challenge if Haney continues to push him into the corners. But then again, we didn't see it and Haney have won comfortably and almost unscathed.

If that's really the case then Devin Haney should reciprocate the opportunity that was given him by Kambosos but I think this time the fight would be held in Las Vegas or somewhere neutral on the both sides and not in Australia because he is now the pursuer of the title that Haney had. There's still a long way of talks about this rematch and I doubt it would happen next year if in-case it would happen.

For those who wanted to see the numbers in this fight and how lucrative it is and maybe this could be another reason to go for a rematch:


https://www.boxingscene.com/haney-kambosos-averaged-1322000-viewers-peaked-1355000-on-espn--166810

So that's a clear 1 mil viewership, not sure how it will translate but this is big for these 2 fighters. So many has anticipated this fight, however, if the rematch is held, I don't think that they will get the same numbers. Because it might be another dominant display of Haney's techniques and bring George to a clinic with his jabs.