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It's been observed that gamblers prefer to play on casino which do not enforce KYC. Well, let's discuss what are the main reasons that they do not want to show their identity and gamble anonymously.

They don't trust the casino as the casino might misuse the kyc documents or the gamblers want to gamble without telling anyone that they are the gamblers,  gambling is illegal in their region or religion and they want to hide their identity or there could be any other solid reason?

The reason why I’m not comfortable giving my KYC to casino is due to the nature of there business. Even in IRL casino, I’m having a hard time to go in there because your image will be ruined in my country if your colleagues know that you are a gambler and playing at the casino. My worst nightmare on providing KYC to casino is when someone manage to leak all the documents submitted to them and published in public my identity as a player for that particular casino. This will be very shameful since I choose crypto casino since I can play freely without the judgmental eyes watching me.

I think most of the time it'll be down to the potential documents can be misused or could be stolen if not secured well - if you can do kyc in some places by just confirming your address why can't online casinos do the same.

Privacy and security is the reason why I avoid KYC in gambling. I just want to visit the casino website, register, make my bet, win or lose and leave in peace without thinking that some day my personal details can be compromised either by the casino or a third party. And it may end up being in the public domain.

The reason is very simple, we are in the crypto space so we should enjoy anonymous gambling.

Crypto casinos became popular because of that feature, because if crypto casinos will require a KYC, then there's no difference from fiat casinos, and IMO Fiat casinos are safer because they are regulated by a more reliable agency.

Some people are from the countries which do not allow things like : Gambling, Online Gambling, Crypto Gambling which means that they might have to hide while Gambling so that they won't be prosecuted for it. Other than that there are people who generally ' Don't want to pay taxes for their Gambling profits'

Then just comes the people who would prefer their privacy above all therefore they generally do not try and go for the casinos asking for KYC, it can also affect their job opportunities because believe it or not ' your digital footprint is a thing' therefore they might have to ward of any issues that might arise from those.

All you've mentioned are valid reasons, some countries are treating gambling as taboo or they have lower respect for people who gamble, and some don't want their sensitive information on a site where they do not know who is managing the casino, we are not dealing with banks where they take their KYC and they have obligation to the government to keep this information confidential, we cannot say that with certainty on online casinos.

It's not only limited due to their religion or region, have you ever heard when someone send their personal identity to random sites and then after few years later, there's a debt collector ask to pay off your loan while you never ask a loan to anyone. This mean your personal identity have been used to borrow money by those people.

Some gamblers want to remain anonymous in terms of playing in casino they avoid KYC to prevent their identity and private information to avoid such things happen like their identity or private information will be public someday.
 And also those gamblers play in that particular casino for their happiness only and they not want to take a risk or hastle about answering all the kyc's asked from the casino. Cause all they want is to have fun.

You already stated the obvious, what else can I add ???  

As for me, I don't mind whether the casino requires KYC or not.  We already had a Data leak in one of our Gov't institutions, the one that compiles voters in our country, what else can I hide lol.  Online gambling is legal (I suppose it is) in our country and most Casinos do not blacklist the access of our country's IP.

I think gamblers avoid KYC because they don't gamble on just one site, and showing their documents on all casino sites is very stupid, because most of these sites can't be trusted. This doesn't just apply to casinos. Leaving your documents unnecessarily on the internet is a bad habit. One day it may happen that you are blacklisted because someone else has used your documents.

That's what we worry about so we are afraid of being misused for things like that or other bad things so I avoid any KYC from the casino, just imagine in every casino KYC applies while we play on many sites means we have to submit documents to all sites that play at there then it's not possible and I'm sure the casinos are now providing convenience without KYC.
Basically my documents don't want to be misused, so this will be a concern for many people, well I know many crypto casinos now without KYC that's what we are happy about now.

Gambling is restricted in some countries and the person may ptefer to gamble on a no KYC casino. Gambling is not restricted in my country and I am not bothered and I do not avoid KYC on trustworthy casinos. KYC also even make me feel secure about my money on a casino than not having any documents to prove that I am the owner of the gambling account.

But some gamblers can be afraid of their KYC documents not to be sold to third party which is a valid reason.

Most no one likes KYC verification as a condition for one to gamble, and if there was and was needed, the site would definitely be abandoned by players.
Because I believe that the identity of someone who plays gambling certainly does not want to be known by others, especially if it is misused. And I have never met the requirement that a person who gambles must submit his/her identity as a condition for gambling, in cyberspace or in real life.

I don't see any other reason why gamblers avoid KYC other than the things you've mentioned. I know that all of us are afraid that someone might use our identity for illegal activities so I think that's the main reason why we always hesitate  in complying with the KYC rule. Being afraid that someone like your relative or religion know that you're gambling isn't that scary for me, if it's illegal in your country then use vpn. There are some gambling casino that allows the use of vpn. While if someone used your identity, you could go to prison for many years or pay huge fines even though you did not do it.

There are lots of reasons why most gamblers don't like complying with the KYC. Some people see it as a hassle, others don't have the documents needed to pass the KYC while others are being careful with their details for the fear of document breach or identity theft. However, KYC is beneficial for us as well as the site because we could get the protection and security that we want by submitting it. We might have our personal reasons but I hope that we could also see its importance.

one solid reason is your identity is being at risk of being stolen, sold or used. a lot of people are cautious about it especially when there have been cases where important info about users' Identities being leaked. people just do not want to risk their identity being used in something that they know nothing of.

There are many personal reasons why gamblers are not really comfortable submitting KYC when they are playing, most of them

are discreetly participating in this kind of activities and not willing to reveal their identities, while for some, they are not willing to engage

to any possible hassle, especially in term of securities. Whatever reason behind KYC mostly being implemented and if you are really into

this kind of activities and you are using a decent amount of money, you'll be forced to submit this information.

Honestly, I'm not sure about gambling sites that prioritize the KYC system registration / provide real identity, if the gambling site insists on having to do kyc, I choose to withdraw, despite the huge and promising bonus offer, even with the first $$$$ deposit.

For me personally, the article below will help me to be more careful in giving out my personal identity, especially gambling sites.

• How KYC/AML poses a serious threat to your privacy and should not be used at all. (https://wilderko.medium.com/how-does-kyc-aml-pose-a-serious-threat-to-your-privacy-and-should-not-be-used-at-all-88f7acd3f3b)
• Be careful with your KYC documents. (https://medium.com/mycrypto/be-careful-with-your-kyc-documents-978ab532f2be)
• The Unseen Danger of KYC. (https://blog.goodaudience.com/the-unseen-danger-of-kyc-e3e1c4448eee)

Conclusion: why do I have to give my ID/kyc, for certain gambling sites, in the end they also cheat their customers, Many gambling sites do not require KYC, but they are responsible and honest for their users.

Surely most of the reasons are privacy issues, especially if the KYC that has to be done must uploading documents containing important personal data but unfortunately this is not very well understood. Now that there are so many online casinos and we can choose which ones do not require KYC. Meanwhile, the desire for activities not to be known by the closest people can be easily tricked by playing in secret.

It's because:

1. It is not really necessary until you hit a jackpot.
2. Lots of instances wherein services and platforms sell personal information on black markets.
3. Doesn't really affect your profile on platforms you submit KYC to.

I could think a lot of reasons why lots of gamblers don't really want to submit their info to these platforms, but these are just some off the top of my head. I mean, we're in a cryptocurrency industry. Most of the things here are pseudoanonymous. Platforms can track if one person creates lots of accounts to cheat the system through several methods and not only relying on submitted KYC. I just don't get it.

so long as there as are casino's that offer their services  without KYC verification, gamblers will always flock towards those because there is a high level of mistrust amongst gamblers for casino's that ask for KYC . People are very uncertain what these casino's what to do with their data and cannot trust them enough with the safety of your private information especially since their motives are uncertain.

The intention is to just gamble, not to introduce yourself to casino before you can use their services, this is suspicious...and as long as there are options that bypasses kYC, people will choose it.

The main reasons are privacy and security. People dont like sending their documents to other sites that can always takes advantage of your documents. Also some people dont like sending documents because some countries can find out about their wins and tax their winnings

Aside from what the others have said, the process of creating an account is much faster and there are gamblers that prefer quick account creations so they could play and place their bets immediately. It's also because there's barely much difference when it comes to the gambling experience as you'll find non KYC casinos offer several games from third party providers. The usual downsides of casinos without KYC are the bonuses and other rewards which doesn't mean much compared to the value of your personal information.

It's only for crypto-based gambling casinos as fiat casinos already have that mandatory requirement for a long period of time.

Simply, why people don't prefer KYC is because we are in the crypto-world where supposedly we can gamble anonymously and privately. These characteristics are some of the best reasons why others shift or consider playing at crypto-based gambling casinos.

Personally, for me, I don't mind undergoing a KYC but as much as possible, crypto-gambling sites shouldn't have that requirement.

Someday centralization will hit crypto casinos too so be ready for that requirement.

That's why I avoid fiat based online casinos that require KYC requirements, we agree for classic reasons. (privacy) not all online gambling sites can be trusted, even very possible and potentially misuse of documents for the benefit and benefit of irresponsible parties. Even most of us don't know if gambling is licensed and provides full consumer protection rights as a guarantee from KYC, I don't think so.
maybe the whole community here is not willing to do KYC.

I will not now consider kyc from the position of unreliable storage, theft or sale of information obtained during this procedure. Although this is a very painful and important topic regarding kyc, but I will leave it for now for discussion by the rest of this forum members.

For me personally, it has always been too lazy to go through the kyc procedure, upload documents and confirm that I am me. If I came to gamble, then there is no need for the casino to create extra steps to achieve my goal. The faster and easier I could start playing, the more I liked a particular casino. This is where the "shut up delete kyc and take my money" meme fits in perfectly. The fewer actions (mouse clicks) required to start the game, the better.

Not just in gambling, but I think it's a good idea to avoid KYC whenever possible.  This is because you can't always trust the entity you're providing your info to keep it safe.  Just yesterday OpenSea had a leak of data and compromised the email addresses of their users.  Credit card companies are often hacked and lose your data, which can include social security and credit card numbers.  Sure, sometimes you have to provide KYC, but if you don't have to, avoiding it is probably the safest thing you can do.  Earlier this month I had my credit card information stolen from a vendor (I use virtual credit card numbers so I know who gave out my info) and there's really no recourse except to go through the steps to get your money back.  Even the thieves know if they spend less than $500 per transaction then the cops won't even follow up.

Yes, in my case that is why I avoid KYC casinos. It takes time to take pictures of your documents, and then a selfie to send the casino. And even after doing this you must still wait few days until receiving a reply, with some chances of having your informations denied, so you have to do the whole process once again.
It really doesn't make sense to have to do this, since you can simply find an alternative crypto casino to play instead where you deposit, play and withdraw instantly.

Like or not.

KYC will be needed, however don't mind to share my "ID" as long the reason is valid. But, most the time because we're winning to much they're using this scheme for holding our money. KYC is also to identified you're 18+ enough for playing in casino.

So yeah, you like it or not still need to do "KYC" as long the reason is valid.

Can we really avoid KYC in a casino?  For example, if you won a jackpot of $1M  and the Casino required you to undergo KYC for whatever reason, would you succumb to their request? 

Anyway, I think trust is one of the top issues why many of us avoid KYC on a gambling platform.   Most of us can't hand over our identity documents because we think that the casino security isn't tight enough to safeguard our data.  If we happen to build our trust with that casino's security, I bet no one of us will have a second thought about proceeding with KYC.  Since many of us never hesitate to submit our data to banks, why we can't do that to a Casino?

We dont really have actually the choice if ever they would really be tending to ask for that whether its needed initially or on the time you do win big.Its not really that a big problem if you are dealing with
a legit or known platforms but we know that everything cant really be trusted even if it seems that they are.So expect that you would be potentially asked out and just like others said that i dont really mind
much but there are people who do really mind about their identity so its up to your whether you do proceed or do look for another place but expect that it is subjected to change
so you cant really avoid on that if ever they would tend to do so.

Crypto has taken people's attention so quickly because it is decentralized. Crypto casino is the same no exception. Gambling is not allowed in many countries. There is also to be socially degraded. Moreover, the big thing is that there is a risk of security about their information, although good casinos do not usually do this. However, people's lack of faith is still on it. I think those are the key facts due to avoiding kyc in the casino site.

A gambler always try to keep themselves safe.

Your reasons are very appropriate for me personally, I don't want public to know that I am a gambler. Anonymously is the only way for me to gamble, about my family also hide my gambling activities, but not everything is hidden. Families should know a little for learning and experience, KYC documents are too difficult to do it for me because yeah sometimes worry about being misused or any data leaking out.

The common things on why people doesnt really like KYc is that they are afraid for those informations to leaked out or be misused on other means which is something true because  even myself wont really be that comfrotable when i do know that my information is really out there been stored and you dont know the risk whether its been safe or not but just like whats been said bby other people that as long you do know that you arent doing something stupid then i dont really see for someone who would really be that too paranoid when it comes to their information that had been given on any platform thats been asking for it but actually this is just a personal kind of choice because there are some who could really able to bare such risk and there are some people who cant just able to accept it.

For something that will harm your reputation because the society where you are in does not accept people who are into gambling even if you're doing it for fun, you'll want your information kept secret, and our sensitive information is not something to be given away on a project be it casino or investment project without a guaranty that it will not be exploited used and abuse, this is the internet, casinos come and go and you are left hanging with the question how about my information if the casino is not accessible anymore.
Will you spend money just to go after the casino and make them delete your information?
Keeping your information on the internet is always safe that is why Crypto casinos are now more popular than fiat-based casinos.

This is why as much as possible limit the exposure of your vital information.
Just submit your KYC docs if it is necessary and you feel that you have the advantage of doing so.
Because we really have no idea where will this will end up with, we are just hoping that it won't be on the hands of fraudsters.
Also, the reason I don't want to submit KYC is as much as possible I want to keep my privacy in this business.

In my own opinion, I don't like anything that requires KYC, it only makes me suspicious and always doubt that they might use my credentials or my info somewhere else, though I only give my KYC to the website that has a good reputation, but in gambling casino I had never try to do that since casinos doesn't require that so much.

Right, so firstly I'd somewhat agree with your first point. I guess KYC is used to determine if the user is legitimate, and in a fiat gambling website it almost makes sense, since you can somewhat do a background check if you suspect they're laundering money on your platform. I do somewhat get that, but ultimately there's better ways than a gambling site, so I never really got that argument when it's presented.

Secondly, honestly the only counter argument I have to this is if you don't trust the company to hold your personal information, you probably shouldn't be using their platform at all. Since, they might screw you in other ways, but also could be collecting information without you knowing, and cross checking it with information they've got from elsewhere.

I'm not too sure what you mean with your last point?

I do not see anything wrong with gambling sites requesting KYC from their customers, since the points at which the KYC is demanded are clear and are based on some number of factors. KYC will reduce the rate of child gambling since the age of the player will be known through the documents submitted. And KYC also limits money laundering activities through gambling if KYC demands are within this range then I will say it is a win-win situation since it is aimed at making it impossible for a criminal to access the gambling under a fake identity

when a gambling place asks to do KYC I think it will let you know your privacy, at least verification with a cellphone number or email is sufficient, but when using a face as a valid ID then it can make their privacy known by many people and of course only the developer of the gambling place can make the account always lose and never win because the developer knows that that person has a lot of money. so in my opinion there is no need to KYC using face.

^ Everything is they care about their identity, even do banks will not support if your credit card is linked to a gambling casino.
Privacy is the most important and there are gamblers who care about it, but on my own, I don't see any problem with having KYC online because I know they are following legalities which is every country has its own jurisdiction to follow. But only in reputable gambling casinos where I will entrust my documents because I know they are capable to keep your documents. I think it could be other solid reasons and each of us has a preferred option in choosing a casino.

Almost at most sites, big winnings might be subject to KYC. If I won a $1M jackpot, why should I hesitate to undergo KYC? I don't really care for any risks as long as the site is somehow reputable in the crypto-gambling world. If they won't approve my KYC, then that's another story of "what if".

Before, crypto exchanges can be freely used without undergoing KYC but to make their business legit, they have to comply with the government's policy regarding KYC and AML-related laws. That's the start of centralization. We should also expect that someday, gambling sites will ask for this KYC stuff but as long as we are not winning big, and we are not talking about a $100 win here, that should be not a problem.

About the topic, KYC is a really big no as gamblers are supposed to just gamble at crypto-gambling sites without a hassle. Fortunately, it's not being demanded and we can still freely play without KYC. Enjoy it while it last lol.

I myself am worried that my identity will be misused by certain platforms. Don't we know if there is a risk of this? But sometimes we have no choice when we have to do KYC. I have unfortunately also done KYC on several platforms. Luckily it's been safe so far (to my knowledge). but I don't really understand if it turns out that behind this there is a hidden secret or even an abuse of identity.

And once more, playing gambling is also illegal in my country which is why KYC on gambling platforms may be risky.

It's about handing over your important documents that contains your identity to the casino. And we don't like that because it could be passed on without knowing that they have handed over it to another entity or company.

That's why sometimes, we get unusual emails even if we don't sign up for another service or website. We can have that conclusion and thought that the companies we signed up for did passed our emails and if they can do that to our emails, they can also do it to our documents that has our important information.

there are many reasons ;)
First of all, it's really hard trust a third part with your personal information + personal document + habits + information about your earnings.
Secondly in some country they can request a tax to your win or just persecute the gambler, because it's an illegal activity or they are not using authorized platforms.
There are some gamblers that are aware about the risk of a ban because "they win too much". There are few cases of people that stop to gamble for that reason.
Last but not least, there is a kind of stigma around gamblers. Not every one want to share this passion.

I havent submitted any documents or information about myself in gambling related businesses or platforms or even giving the simplest information that do connects about my identity but for exchangers
or any services that do requires it then i dont really have any choice but to comply before you could fully make use of its functionality yet it do really sucks when you are limited but only into some
other aspects but for gambling then i do avoid as much as i could on sending out any verifications or kyc just for me to be able to play.We do have lots of casinos in the market which
its impossible  that you wont able to find out which doesnt really require for some verification before you do play.

It's not about these people don't trust casinos but KYC in crypto gambling is not really necessary. I don't see the importance of doing it. Gambling sites are working differently from crypto exchanges and they are not the same in all aspects. Why KYC should matter here?

It's also not about hiding the identity but it's not comfortable gambling when our identity is exposed.

That's why we gamble in crypto in the first place, right? Because of privacy matters that are not present in fiat gambling.

Gambling can be a taboo in many places and there are places where online gambling rules are not clear about the legality and hence users will not be willing to associate their identity with gambling sites. Then there is the other aspect of trust issues whether they will be safe keeping the KYC documentation and whether there will be leakage of their identity especially if they are gambling huge amounts.

All the things you said. Not all people like sharing their data with some random people. Some probably don't have any valid ID. Others are probably gambling from a region where online gambling is prohibited. While there are people that are too lazy to verify their identification (i bet everyone would prefer playing in a casino where there is no KYC). And the rest do it to hide their identity for some shady reasons I guess.

The main reason crypto gamblers don't want to give their identities to casinos is that they just want to gamble and don't want to look like they registered on trading sites. Moreover, by using crypto, people can easily register at the casino without having to reveal their identity. But apparently, casinos don't stand idly by seeing the number of people who can win a lot of money or make a deposit of large amounts of money. Casinos want to know who their members are and their backgrounds so that the casino doesn't get involved with illegal activities. In addition, many of these gamblers gamble not using a lot of money and only spend their time gambling.

 I have many experiences from that past that my. Documents being abused or misused .

After providing my details? Days after I started receiving texts and emails or even miscalled by numbers i am not familiar with and that is annoying.

From there I start hating KYC not unless it is badly needed for something i must provide.

As you said because indeed when you do KYC then all the collected identities can be sold at a low price or it can be expensive on the black market and of course when your data is leaked it will make the privacy of playing at the gambling place disturbed because of the possibility when in government circles began to gamble and become a scandal it would bring shame to him. I think there are already some gambling places that don't implement such KYC and still it's safe to use.

Apart from these reasons, there may also be tax avoidance. There are many countries where gambling is regulated in such a way that to operate in the country you need a licence which costs quite a lot of money. Gambling licensed bookmakers operating in those countries are completely controlled by the governments and tax first the bookmaker and then the players on the winnings.

Someone playing at a crypto casino without a kyc can access it from these countries, using vpn for example, and in addition to enjoying a higher RTP, they will not pay tax.

I think KYC is no longer needed on gambling sites, but there are other gambling sites that we can't stop if they ask for KYC from their players who will create an account on their website platform. So the decision is always up to the individual gamblers if there are others who do not want KYC, simply stop using the gambling site that has KYC requirements.

That could happen if you're with an untrusted and nonreputable site that would ask for KYC. If you're using a trusted site, you have nothing to fear because your personal data would be safe. Many of us have proven that since we've passed the KYC from big casino sites before. Just be wise in choosing a trusted casino site.

One of the most confidential information is the personal identity of a person because if this will become public of course in the internet there's a lot of chance it can be used by the different people and used as identity theft we know how important the identity of the person at the same time it is broad on the internet can be traceable nowadays that's why most of the people want to keep themselves anonymous or lowkey at the same time.

I think that people avoid KYC in gambling casino just because they want to stay anonymous and doesn't want to let someone know that they gamble. Other reason could figure something like money laundering, or play with

money earned with criminal methods. That's why is really important for a casino ask for a KYC, in this way they will protect they self from bad situation.

Privacy is the main reason, even if someone trust the casino but if he/she want to keep his/her privacy, he/she will no be willing to do KYC. Illegal document sales happens most of the time, mostly done by irresponsible staff of the casino who want to make some money by doing illegal document sales. This can be other reason why people are afraid to do KYC including me.

KYC means "know-your-customer." This heavily implies that gambling websites require your personal information, whether it be your name and addresses, or more.
 
What is the danger behind this feature and why do gamblers avoid this? Well for instance, gambling companies exist on the internet. Since data is privately stored in their system, there is always that risk of leaking your personal information.

When your personal information gets leaked, everyone including their family members or friends are placed in a position of potential danger of misrepresentation. Hackers may use such personal information for their gain and advantage.

Like everyone said here,it's because of privacy and security.You know,some people just want to have fun gambling and not be weighed by those complicated procedure and some people do some shady things that would incriminate them if they give their identities.Casino is mainly for entertainment,so if the customer is not entertained by the way the casino doing business,they will simply avoid it.

And KYC is not fun because it beats the purpose of gambling in crypto which should give us an anonymous gambling experience. I don't know if there are some who would just comply with the KYC, but I believe majority of us here would love to keep our privacy.

Or another reason could be laziness/procastination, or they probably don't trust the site. I remember the first time I was asked to KYC by an exchange, it was a trusted exchange and one of the oldest, but out of lack of trust, and a little laziness I didn't upload the requirements and my coins stayed in the exchange for 6 weeks. There's something about KYC that makes me feel nervous, and anxious.

The Cryptcasino industry is thriving because gamblers preferred anonymity and privacy, there are instances where gamblers should do KYC on specific situations, like verifying if you made abuse or if you deserve the prize you won because of age legality, this is because of the casino's compliance as a requirement for their license, but there is no requirement when you signing up or depositing.

It's okay if that is the main intention, but if it's only to mislead us or cheat us in order for them to witheld our winning, then that's really a big disadvantage on us because not only they will get our winnings but we are also at risk of our information getting sold in the black market.

I'm okay with exchanges as they are regulated, but on gambling sites, I think it's not safe to comply with the KYC if they will require it. Actually, it's not hard to find a trusted casinos or gambling sites, but on exchanges, there are only few who are trusted and I believe all of them requires a KYC, so we have no option.

Firstly, all the reasons you listed are reasonable and someone is guided by them. Secondly, I would say that people try to avoid KYC not only in casinos but in general everywhere if possible. I can understand the need for KYC in banks or government agencies, but I do not understand why I need to take KYC for any service. Ideally, mail or phone is sufficient for identification.

That's how the government work, most businesses that involve services on money are required a KYC. They always use the words "anti-money laundering" in order to require us to undergo a KYC, or else they will charge us for a violation and our account could be lock.

Yes i think one of the reasons is what you just mentioned, me personaly i do not feel confortable giving my identity to the casino since gambling is prohibited both on my country and relegion, i think the casino should respect the custumer privacy unless there is a suspecious activity like betting a huge amount of money or a specific gambler is just winning all the bets he make i think in this case a kyc process is needed.

There should be no more "unless", or "if", if they offer anonymous gambling, they should give full anonymity, no more "if" because that can be use in their favor if they will think of cheating us. If we made a violation, then they should just block the acccount, how can the KYC help if we have a violation, we are only getting our real identity known to them.

The main reason is that most of casinos are not legal based by themselves. So it's kind of weird to ask for KYC if you're a shady business based in offshore jurisdiction, isn't it?

There a lot of cases when casino sell their KYC data to third party and it isn't ok at all. So when some service asks me to do KYC I'm looking does it have all licenses. If not - GG WP
 

I agree with you because exchanges deal directly with local regulators so exchanges inevitably have to ask their members to do KYC. Maybe a few years ago, exchanges didn't ask for this because crypto developments weren't as popular as they are now. But as cryptocurrencies are growing and people are finding out what crypto can do for them, regulators want to step in and get to know the people behind cryptocurrencies and exchanges. But for the casino, we only gamble briefly, not every day, and only use a small amount of money so we don't feel the need to KYC. Maybe people who use big funds need to do KYC to avoid the illegal activities they are doing.

In this case, they are just avoiding some bad scenario that may occur if the site won't play honest with them and as we know, they cannot be trusted especially when it comes to giving them our personal information. They might gonna sell it to others and use it to do things that we ourselves won't even imagine to do those things. Lots already happened with this kind of case and after they closed, we won't really know what will gonna happen to our personal data afterward.

KYC is useless unless it is the type of KYC that requires you to take a live selfie after you submitted your I.D. But most of the KYC that I've seen doesn't require a selfie to verify that the I.D you've submitted is really you, not your parents I.D or someone's I.D. For me, I don't really trust this process because you're at a disadvantage if you submitted a legitimate identification of yours, since you don't know where they are really going to use it.

Misuse the identity. That's my reason for it.
As much as possible avoid throwing out any information to anyone. Not just gambling sites or casinos but even with other companies that are looking for it while you are not even a part of them.
It's not like you are applying for a job, you are the one doing the spending and it's only just for entertainment so might as well keep all the important parts of yourself and let me play the game.
I think I just defined "trust".  ;D

I don't think that most of the gamblers think this way as they surely trust the gambling platform as they are risking their funds especially high rollers.

For me, one of the main reason as to why gamblers don't want to provide their identity or do the KYC process is for security purposes on their identity as they are gambling with their own money where they don't want to expose themselves especially for high rollers who gambles with huge amount of money. Also, security on the website and blockchain technology for crypto are not the same where a simple breach of information may result of their identity being expose.

One other reason may possibly be is that the gambler is from a country where online gambling and cryptocurrency is restricted.

Gamblers will always chose privacy no matter what, that is why this KYC requirement always suck us. In my honest opinion, I want to avoid KYC as much as possible because I want to remain anonymous not only to the casino itself, but also to my co gamblers. And submitting all my personal documents to the casinos will always create future problems as some casinos are not reliable not to disclose my real identities as they also hold not responsible when someone stole my personal documents and divulge it to the public for whatsoever reasons. That is why gamblers will always prefer to play in casinos who are still not strict with KYC.

One of the reasons on why cryptocurrency gambling casinos or industry had boomed out just because of this sole reason which is "Anonymity" on which you would really be in no need on showing off your personal details

or having those verifications or making use of your credit card when you do tend to play online.Just having your own crypto then you are good to go and playing out games without exposing yourself
which is something that we do always prefer unlike on fiat casinos basing up on experience.

If we do tend to look at on charts or graphs in regarding growth and significant numbers then we would definitely see that its going upward.

Crypto and the term KYC. You'd say that doesn't go well together. Crypto was created to ensure the idea of anonymity more through the idea of centralization vs decentralization. However, there are more and more casinos that find it necessary to perform a KYC. This is often included in the general terms and conditions. However, I believe that sites don't always have to do that. It seems more like a means of deferring payments. I have never heard a story that a licensing commission has asked for the data of a gambling site.

The problem is that these rules can also be based on pressure from the government which does have the authority to do this which makes this something quite difficult to avoid and gambling houses or casinos will clearly follow the rules given by the government because in the end if they block it then they are the ones who are threatened. .
Even though many people are against KYC, there are still some conditions that gamblers have to do if they still want to continue gambling on one of the sites.

Well sometimes I don't care about the KYC as long as it will not require a selfie ID, perhaps email address and phone number verification are enough as a requirement in KYC. The reason why gamblers avoid KYC is that they want this privacy, they afraid to expose their name could perhaps someday the site will leak and turn into a hack which is your identity documents possible is in the hands of scammers.
We cannot blame them if they avoid KYC gambling casinos because that is what they preferred.

That is still the same - they are collecting your ID/selfie in order to get verified which I really hate doing this. However, we do understand their stands as well as why they are asking those things aside from our basic information upon registration to combat abusers. Sadly, most of the casinos right now are asking for this, even known and trusted sites, I think we found no excuse as they will ask for it at the moment we use their platform.

The funny thing is that the anti-laundering legislation of the state is applied to those services that use only cryptocurrencies, even if state do not consider cryptocurrencies as money by the law. In my opinion, this is rather hypocritical. However, like other invasions of privacy that are made ostensibly to protect against terrorism/the fight against pedophiles, etc.

But ser, even the big, "trusted" exchanges, and other Bitcoin companies are not truly safe with your data too. Ledger was hacked, and all I.D. and emails were stolen, assumed to be sold in the dark markets. Coinbase, were also reproted to have sold geo-location data to the U.S. government. Laziness and procrastination might save some of our fellow users. Hahaha.

I don't think I have to reveal my identity just because I want to gamble, most of those gambling sites can't be trusted, anything can happen to you identity and I believe that's my privacy, some gambling site can be hacked which scammers will use my identity to defraud someone or other illegal things which at the end people might think am the one and also the gambling site can be trusted because they can sell out your identity. Not only gambling site alone  any website or crypto exchange that require kyc am not always in support of it.

For me the biggest fear of providing my documents online is identify theft. If the wrong people are getting access to my personal documents they could use them for illegal activities and even hurt me directly. Once someone has our full address, copy of ID and bank account details he can do a lot of things with. Requesting a new credit card or online banking access which than will be stolen out of our post box cod ruin your whole life. Once the scanners have access to the bank account they will clear it out completely, and even if you manage to get your money back with the help of the bank there can still be permanent damage. One issue could be that the credit rating is getting affected negatively. That's why I am really cautious when it comes to KYC at very new casino. If it's an older casino who has been around for several years and has a good reputation I am not so worried. They usually have a security to prevent misuses of personal information. I also understand that casinos need that to protect itself against money laundering.

Yes, many gamblers want this but to some, they can just play no matter what type of casino it was (kyc or non kyc based) as there are more other important things for them than the kyc.

I think that the reason why there are players that dislikes doing a kyc is that they think their kyc will be sold and misused by the casino or their representatives and maybe there's a tiny percent that refrain of doing a kyc because they are scared for anyone to know that they are gambling. Who, knows maybe some of their relatives or family members are working on that particular casino? But, if they are on a restricted country, a casino will usually restrict them right at the start.

Most of the time it probably has to do with 1 of 3 things:

1) not wanting to give out your personal information to an unknown.
2) to avoid paying taxes
3) because gambling is illegal in you area

These are probably the main three things that cover 90% of the reasons why.

The first one is the main consideration majority of the casinos are anonymous we don't know the company running the project and of course, as human beings, we do not surrender what we value to people we do not know because it can cost us trouble in the future, this is the internet and there are so many hackers and information sellers and thinking that you have your information floating in the internet or at the hands of people you don't know is a big cause of concern

Personally, I avoid KYC because I have no idea how they store that data, and if it gets compromised I will not feel comfortable knowing the hackers have all my personal data.

For me all this KYC situation looks like an excuse to avoid paying the customers. It's sad but that's how they use the KYC nowadays

Even if we stand against it, we don't have that much choice because the majority of these trusted casinos are also asking KYC these days and I think it's best to submit what is needed if we still want to play on their platform but if we won't give and support what they want then I guess finding another casino will be our only option. Nevertheless, there's still always a risk of getting our information leaked if someday their platform will be hacked.

On one hand, I can understand the reason why they ask for your KYC that seems coincident only after you won a big bet: to make sure you're a legitimate player (countries that banned gambling suck!) and to keep tabs on the tax and stuff. But on the other hand, yeah it sucks to provide your KYC to gambling casinos. That lingering fear that you don't know if one day, some 'hack' or they might sell your personal data to someone else.

so as much as possible, submit kyc only if you think it is necessary. a lot of casinos don't ask kyc up until today. just don't break or violate any of their ToS. in case of big winnings, weigh if it is worth risking your kyc if the site asks for it. are they reputable enough to trust your private info? only you can tell how confident you are to a given casino. but much better if you don't need to submit any form of kyc to these gambling sites. if you feel your privacy will be compromised in the future, and you're not up for it. then simply don't give them the vital details.

Online casinos are a bit different but I'd say that there are a few major genuine reasons that people want to avoid giving KYC documentation over to crypto casinos. The first is, people often gravitate to crypto because they like the anonymous aspect and there may even be requirements from their employment to declare any sort of gambling activity, this allows them to bypass more stringent checks which you might consider overreach by an employer. The second, possibly biggest issue that some might have is how reliable the security really is with these sorts of organizations. It is possible to do a lot of damage with copies of identity documents and potentially steal vast amounts of money (by faking a loan application or signing up to a phone contract) so handing over such information should be treated in the most sensitive manner.

In my opinion, they are the same reasons that lead users to not accept the terms of identity procedures when they use any other service related to the field of blockchain and crypto in general.
The main fear is that this data may will be used in a way or another by the site that requests verification procedures, or that the site will be hacked, and that data will be stolen and used without the knowledge of the owner.
Personally, I find these reasons sufficient to not comply with these requests and leave the site and avoid using it in the future.

Exactly! OP missed the point. Identity is a personal thing and you don't go around town waving a card with your name and address on it, right? When you meet someone new, you use your first name and that's all. You don't give them your full name, age and address right away, unless it's a business meeting and you know that sooner or later they'll get to know it anyway.
I don't feel like a random company that isn't sending me any packages or doing any business deals with me has to know my name and address. Who knows what they can do with it?

Many players want to hide their identity and they have their own reasons. Staying low key is one of the best practice one can adopt.
And those who don't want to share their KYC -- I think some of the casinos are fine with it too. If there are Casinos policies -- so are people's privacy.

Some users are not comfortable with sharing personal documents on illegal gambling websites without a proper license. Getting license from Curacao is easy for average businessman and gambling platforms can use this info for their own advantage. I personally don't want to see my documents on the sale lists of dark websites. Other players use the crypto gambling platforms from restricted regions thanks to VPN but whenever website aka gambling site management catches them they will not agree to send personal documents for obvious reasons.

Regardless if gambling is illegal or legal in a certain country, a gambler will always seek for privacy maybe because being an anonymous gambler will free you from all sorts of negative accusations from other people, and will always give you freedom to gamble here and everywhere. Also, if you are a jackpot winner, that won't make your life the target of all scammers or criminals. This is why a lot really hated this KYC implementation when gambling.

In general, when AI knows too much about you is frustrating. And i wouldn't like to share my info with any site, no matter whether it is casino or online shop.

Weighting how big your winnings against your KYC i something that a gambler needed to decide, after all if you are a not a fan of KYC it's better to use a small amount of money to play, if luck permits you to win and you are in the process of withdrawing your funds, again it will be a decision that only you and the condition can decide.

If you don't trust the site and you are willing to let go of the amount of money that you win, you always have lots of alternative platforms to use.

I'm one of those who don't really like KYC, my only reason is that I don't want my identity to be exposed by the security forces in my country because gambling here (my country) is illegal and players can be sentenced to prison. so far it can be counted on the fingers on any exchange or gambling site I only do KYC and of course, the reputation of the platform must be good.

it's not the only reason, there people who don't wanna provide kyc because they're underage or they don't want to share anything about them to the internet, and for me I don't use websites with kyc because there are other trusted websites that don't require that and they have the same features so why bother go through all that process.

I have a golden rule which has a zero compromise: I will never send KYC to any online website. Simple.

For others that feel the same whether it is gaming/casino or an exchange, they face a dilemma if they are being asked for KYC after they have funds that are not being allowed to be withdrawn.

The fact is it is all too common to read about websites on the dark net that are selling KYC documents. Some of them have been sold and re-sold many times by criminal gangs that only have nefarious purposes in mind.

I would feel sorry for those that are trying to withdraw funds from casino or gaming sites but they are being told Terms and Conditions mean they will not release the funds until they receive the documents.

That's a valid reason. Regardless, even if you don't undergo KYC, it's a big risk you are taking as gambling is illegal there.

If gambling is illegal there, there are ways that someone can track you doing gambling. Authorities are prepared with that.

Please be careful bro. Even using VPN won't save your ass in a country where gambling is illegal.

I don't want to reveal my identity. Another thing I fear, this can bring legal issues. I have lost big, and one day even if I make big money through my profession people will connect it with gambling. I don't want this to happen, because it isn't bad but the hardwork I did doesn't reflect me and the luck will serve as my Identity.

Even if it was a very huge company with plenty of trust gained.

People still tend to refuse to do the KYC for privacy and security reasons , you wont feel secure once your documents uploaded as things around internet are never safe , sensitive data like the dox are the most wanted one for those privacy stealers, people will never want to do the kyc despite the purpose are for security reasons ... it gave us insecurity instead.

Well, I believe it has always been the anonymity that always matters in cryptospace.
That would be the main reason why these people chooses to gamble with cryprocurrency because it does not require any financial information like linking your credit and debit card into your account, it doesn't require your very basic infor either.

in my country and my religion actually prohibits gambling but that's not the reason why i don't agree on gambling sites using kyc, because i play gambling just to fill my spare time and don't need to fill in personal data. on the other hand for me filling out kyc on gambling sites is very vulnerable to theft of personal data for misuse. just for me.
but there are also gamblers willing to do kyc just to get more bonuses from the gambling site

I believe not entirely. They're required by the government under the rules of their gaming license, are they not? There MIGHT be some casinos who might be using KYC as an excuse to avoid paying some customers, but cheating customers is not a common mode of operation.

Wasn't Bitlucy a victim of an exploitation of their welcome bonus which took some amount of their capital? I believe KYC would have helped them there as a form of protection from multi-accounting.

Well, I also agree with what some users said

I believe that without KYC you can have more security and privacy for gambling, another point that also deserves to be highlighted is that, I believe that no one would like to have some of their personal data/information leaked from a gambling platform that was invaded.

I believe that not performing KYC is a defensive way for the user to protect himself and not expose his data to a third party.

However, that will not stop people from gambling because they can enjoy gambling. That's what makes them return to gambling even though in your country, gambling is prohibited. People who do KYC just to gamble must have thought about the risks and could accept them so they continued verifying their accounts. But on the other hand, people who don't want to do KYC will look for casinos that don't have KYC verification so they can gamble freely.

This situation is impossible in established and trusted casinos. The KYC process is performed by a trusted third party, and the gambling site itself can't steal your personal details. But, of course, scammers are doing it all the time. Do not register on shady platforms.

That must be tough for you to gamble your identity in exchange for that KYC needed by the casino, I surely hope that you won't be exposed because the sentence could be heavy if you will get caught. You made the right choice for taking that risk in a reputable casino so that your information is not in a risky situation where it could be leaked if that casino gets hacked.

I personally don't have a big problem with KYC

the reason many people avoid KYC is because of security, I agree with that, but the KYC required by big gambling sites is just a formality

so that as long as you do KYC on a trusted platform (not shady one) then your personal data will definitely be safe (but this goes back to the views of each user)

But there are some services you will not access without KYC, that is why most centralized platforms are using KYC to nail down they customers, take binance for example. Nobody can access the exchange without going through the KYC process.

The two reasons in the quote above are a few things I can think of, but since gambling platforms are a lucrative business and also require a license they also have to comply with the applicable laws of the government where the platform is registered, IMO.

Privacy reasons are the most common, so it is also the reason why one does not want to spend his time on a gambling platform that requires him to complete KYC.

When Binance added mandatory KYC I simply moved to another exchange! It's not like they are the only crypto exchange...

I don't like KYC, and I will avoid it whenever I can. For me words like decentralization and freedom have some weight, it's what crypto should be all about! So why KYC?! All services can find another way to fight against abuse. Luckily we still have, and I believe we will always have, places that are full crypto!

On the time that Binance asked out some KYC then i did make out some transfer on Kucoin but eventually i did come back on using Binance which it did really convinced me to verify myself
because cant really just deny that Binance is having that kind of functionality and overall UI/UX which is something that you cant really see on any platform which it do really make
it great and cant be beat out easily thats why despite of such changes even though i do really give importance on anonymity but it did really convinced me and
do make out some exemptions on this situation but well its a personal preference so its up really to someone on how they would really be dealing with it not only
on exchange platforms but also in gambling casinos as well.

Yeah, nothing online is safe especially if it is related to crypto and finance. That is the reason why gamblers refuse to send personal documents to verify accounts, it is understandable considering how shady things may happen if the site got hacked. The purpose of KYC verification is simple: Gambling platforms wanna know who are you and whether you break T&C or not. If the user is from restricted areas and using the website illegally, this information can put the platform license under question in the long run.

Definitely right, some users who don’t want to comply with the KYC still fall as a victim of the hackers and I’m thinking if KYC can really help users to be more secured. I’m ok with filling up personal information, but I’m hesitant to provide any documents for some security purposes, and honestly as much as possible I still prefer to gamble without filling up any KYC.

But at one point, website management will ask to confirm the details you entered during registration. This point can be the day when you win over $10k and can't withdraw due to the KYC ban by the casino. Things turn against you at this level and you can't remember the data you entered during the signup process. That is why you are under threat when a website gets hacked or someone from the team leaks info to third parties.

Binance is asking KYC completely and you can only withdraw to them if you have not completed the verification. The casinos are different, they'll ask when they are not satisfied and would like to verify their user based on the volume of the transaction for withdrawal and how huge it is.
Because they don't want them to be used as gateway for mixing coins and the other casinos have been aware of that.

I wanted to verify the account is because of if not the amount of money he's been going through the casino game underworld to make is to be credited to the account you can solve the currency verification that is too long the particular account and the heat benefits of that that is why I have to run the kyc for any casino and resort

It can help when it times of withdrawals and they're verified. Withdrawals that are unauthorized being detected by the system, they're going to delay it.
Especially those that has automatic withdrawals and don't go through manual process, that will be one big part to play for the kyc when their system caught someone trying to withdraw your money unauthorized.

the weirdest part about it is that:

1 - when someone deposits a lot of money in the casino they don't ask for KYC

2 - when someone loses a lot of money at the casino they don't ask for KYC

they only ask when the person withdraws a lot of money, but it is strange because there are casinos that in their TOS they require that when the person makes a deposit of X value, that person makes bets that reach the volume that corresponds to the deposit so that he is able to withdraw, in this case it makes no sense that the casino still asks for KYC at the time of withdrawal, but they still ask for KYC

Sounds like that's not making sense. Why do they play in that casino if they don't trust it in the first place lol?

Losing money is fine as long as no KYC? It's that what you meant here? From the very beginning, they shouldn't risk their money there since they don't trust it.

It's not that way. Gamblers don't want to provide KYC because it doesn't make sense to do it. Gambling sites don't work the same as crypto exchanges that's why even for regulation purposes, KYC shouldn't be mandated at gambling platforms.

Yep, these can be some solid reasons to avoid KYC. Especially about the possibility that the casino site misuses our private data. As gamblers, we should prefer to choose a casino site that can make us feel safe. If we can gamble without the need for KYC, we don't need to worry about our privacy. There are many cases of the misuse of KYC documents, casino sites must realize this. By the way, regarding a gambler doesn't want anyone to know about his gambling activity on that site, it should be guaranteed by the casino. They won't publish their clients' data. What we are afraid that the casino may sell our private data on the black market.

IMO

But to trigger the KYC on casino withdrawals, it should be that large amount of money involved.

It won't be triggered if the amount involved is just $1,000, $2,000, or maybe even up to $10,000 withdrawals.

Just play on our usual and everything will be smooth not unless the KYC is really mandatory at the start. For that, check the site's Terms and Conditions.

LOL no doubt if the main purpose to make people will be very difficult to withdraw their money. That rule was also forcing people to verify and reveal their identity. I was always considering that kind of casino as a scam casino. There's no guarantee if withdraw will be smooth after you have verified your account through sending your KYC to them. They were making their TOS stricting people to withdraw their money. Less money can be withdrawn from that casino.

In my opinion, there can be many good reasons for a player to opt out of the KYC procedure. 

Anonymity and confidentiality are the core values ​​of a crypto enthusiast. 

These values ​​were important to Satoshi Nakamoto and others who were at the forefront of Bitcoin.  They are important to all of us. 

The KYC procedure carries a great danger for the player.  Confidential data can get into the dark web and be used by criminals for illegal purposes.  For example, data obtained as part of the KYC procedure can be used to apply for a loan or loan, as registration data for illegal and criminal actions. 

Therefore, I avoid online casinos that require mandatory KYC.

That is the standard pattern that many exchanges, on-the-fly-exchanges as well as gaming and gambling websites employ. I mentioned in a different thread today that the Terms and Conditions (or Terms of Service) have routinely been misused and exploited by unscrupulous website operators to justify withholding funds from their own customers/clients.

Winning 'big' is something most if not all gamblers are aiming for but that could also be a poisoned chalice for them because shady website operators might start asking for KYC in the hope the customer refuses, which would allow the scammers to keep the funds.

But we cannot really blame these casinos because they are just implementing what the government wants as they won't have their license if they would not obey that implementation. The government is just harsh sometimes with these kinds of things but these things have only surfaced when they received intel that casinos and other online platforms may have been used to launder money.
But we as decent citizens, we are taking the burden because of those criminal organizations, so now we are taking these KYC procedures even if we don't want it so that we can claim and withdraw our winnings/funds.

Yes, that is the purpose of KYC but that is just for the platform but that same purpose will be a disadvantage of the client's side like us, because we as the gambler will be at risk as our private details are given to the platform just to pass that KYC. We're just hoping that the casino we've trusted will not be hacked because that same information we had given to them will be put for sale in the black market.

At some point it is correct, where other gamblers just want to be anonymous and privacy to remain secret. It's just that sometimes, we have other gambling platforms that you can't play until the gambler passes the KYC, which is why it seems annoying that such a system that they have is not good for me because why other gambling platforms are the system is not like that.

It's really hard to get back your personal information once it's gone to the hands of hackers or some people who will use it for some sort of scams. Since KYC is really critical and one bad move it could go wrong and will gonna ruin your life in a blink of an eye, people will avoid passing it and they will just prefer to play on some online casino that doesn't require it because it's really risky to do so. More or less, they are scared that when the Casino is closed, their personal information will be sold on the deep web to be used for some evil actions.

KYC information is traded on the black market between criminals every day. After that information has been misused once it will be sold again and again between various criminal groups that will use it for nefarious purposes. Once it is sold on the black market, the rightful owner will never have cntrol over it again.

Sending KYC to organisations of little standing should be avoided as should sending it to those that try to invoke various clauses in their dubious Terms and Conditions (ToS) in order to withhold funds.

There are gambling sites where you can't register, or, you can't even open the front page because of the area restriction. It's not a full KYC, but kinda in the same ballpark.


They simply can't do that in that case. Actually, this made me smile when I thought of it. Imagine, a casino asking you for KYC before showing you the result of your lost huge bet. :) Such a practice could be exploited brutally by some gamblers.

People will be made difficult to withdraw their winnings by making strict KYC because that is what suspicious casinos will do. But a trusted casino with a good reputation won't do it because once they do and many of their members complain, the casino can lose out on a huge potential profit. People who play at crypto casinos will probably prefer casinos that don't implement KYC as they don't want to send their documents to the casino for security reasons.

Yes thats what suspicious casino will do, but at the end they will say they are just security conscious that's why they implemented strict kyc. After the kyc have been implemented, they will make it strick so that most people won't be able to meet up with their kyc requirements, which at the end they won't be able to make withdrawal from the casino site and the money belongs to the site.
Also I won't really recommend anybody to use any casino site with kyc, because anything can happen to your data.

As I understand it, the most effective and easiest way to correct errors from the fact that your documents leaked to the network is to make a new passport (for example, under the pretext of losing the old one). Usually it costs a small fine and some bureaucratic problems, but you will have new documents and the old ones are guaranteed to lose their validity. It is a pity that this method cannot be used regularly (for example, once a year), this will cause huge questions and suspicions, as it seems to me.

I respect your recommendation but KYC is done to avoid minor gambling, money laundering, and also multiple accounts

out there, there are many choices (KYC and non-KYC crypto gambling sites), everyone is free to choose but still for those who don't have a problem with KYC should choose to do KYC on a large trusted and reputable gambling site

It will, you might be questioned in the 3rd time unless you have the right reason with documentation about the loss. They are extending the expiration of every document for the purpose of security and other people just don't want to do it annually, they are too busy.  ::)

I don't like KYC, I actually hate it. Filling up important information is not my forte, it feels like giving away your autobiography. Although it might help to prove the age of each gambler, it is still not a good thing. If we want kids to prevent access in gambling sites we could always just block it in their accounts.

Who would of course want a KYC casino? We sure know the risks entailed with it so I don't think there's someone who will happily choose and bet to a casino that will ask KYC. I for one wanted a non-KYC casino but I maintain my deposits little and I prefer not to go big in case they will suddenly freeze it.

I feel you, providing such information just to gamble or to enjoy your stay during your pastime is not good practice on my  personal  opinion but there are gamblers who are willing to deal with it especially those big time gamblers who use a huge amount of money and play heavy, they are more into accepting the terms and condition.

Though not all gambling sites but those selected that they really trust and believe that it won't mess with them.

Wont really be messing up with them but there are scenarios or circumstances that cant really be avoided on which there are leakage with those information which the team or the platform itself doesnt have control.

This is one of the most common concern on why people doesnt really like on providing any details in regarding with their informations or identity which is something that we dont really like and it should
really be talking with that full anonymity if we do play.For big time players then expect that they are really been required on providing their identity which we know that gambling sites are centralized
or regulated which its just normal that they would really be asked for those information but of us small time or peanuts then i dont really see that much of needed.

Since they are putting big money on that particular site, it means they trust the site. Therefore, undergoing KYC should not be a big problem for them as it's just easy to complete it. These big-time gamblers are not dumb to just trust a site with their money easily.

These big gamblers' research is beyond average compared to the majority and they are very strict at choosing a site.

KYC is not really a problem if there's a time that it will be a mandatory thing to do. We have no choice in the first place if it's become a necessary requirement. Just make sure to just comply with it on a trustworthy site and of course, not with the site that just comes out of nowhere and lacks reviews.

That's why i always avoid the place that was forcing its users to verify identity. Forcing identity means that casino didn't wanna play fair. They want money to come but they didn't want money to leave from their platforms. Remember that since the owner hodl your money and you can do nothing for that. People will always prefer for their identity not to be revealed or owned by casino.

For bigger amounts, that was mandatory and it also the safety of your is their mani concerned asking you to complete it and verify your real identity. Yes, I would agree this is not a problem unless it was a questionable site but because we endure trust and they are, actually, KYC could be easy.

Well, I respect those who can provide, that was their choice, and all we have a choice either. But I was expecting this to become mandatory in the near future for security purposes.

Although you can still avoid kyc, but on certain platforms or maybe all gambling platforms when you don't send kyc, there will be limitations such as the maximum bet amount and also about the maximum deposit and withdrawal amount. But indeed, regarding the high and low of money for a bet, then for gamblers who just fill their spare time and for fun it will not be a problem if they are not involved with kyc. But for those who really make gambling for something big, then of course kyc will still be needed for them.

Mostly those are the level 1 KYC which is most of the time the name of the player only and email for the verification for the every time login and the reset of the passwords, and if you are just a small-time gambler sometimes it didn't require a KYC and most of the player have a large deposit and withdrawal if the platform thinks that it is need to have a withdrawal verification that's the time they will submit fo the new level of verification for the avoidance of the possible abuse of the system for the platform itself.

If the casino wants to do that, it's best to explain up front by putting it on the rules page so that people who read the rules can know what they should and shouldn't do when gambling at that casino. The casino must be transparent to its members so as not to arouse suspicion. That's why we must be careful in choosing a casino site, especially one that uses kyc because we don't know what they can do with our data.

Yes, there must be people who will verify at a casino that implements kyc, especially if those people can find a trusted casino that can make them feel safe playing at that casino. I also still use non-kyc casinos or if they implemented kyc they would have limits for small gamblers like me so I don't have to do kyc.

For trusted casinos, they will not force their will on their members because the casino knows if they keep doing that, maybe their members will move to another casino. We also have the option to play at the other casino we want so if the casino wants kyc, we can look for other casinos.

And because of these big-time gamblers, the trusted platforms that they are playing are also obliged to keep their system safe and updated so that the details of their clients won't leak if there are some threats that could put their license in the line and worse, these big-time gamblers will be forced to sue the casino and leave them with more problems.

Definitely, that would happen because it's a serious offense and a casino can be sued for that, however, if the information was leak unintentionally like their system is hacked, then we cannot go after them and we have to accept the fact that our information can be used to whatever purpose the hacker will use, that's the risk.

Exactly. And the answer for question "How to choose proper casino?" is easy: Choose those who has EU/USA license. Not of grey offshore, not of some third world countries. No. EU or USA - in this case you will be sure that casino not cheating and that it will not sell your data to some shady hackers. 

This got me thinking, I've only had one KYC done on a gambling platform as I am gambling on that website on a regular basis however I haven't checked their licence yet.

Could you please clarify more information on checking a proper casino? Also, Can I know more why having a EU/USA guarantees that the casino will not cheat or sell your data to anyone? Thanks!

There are many reasons for this but the most simple is that people have a right to retain some privacy, this is something that is being forgotten as now most people behave in a way that decades before could have been classified as exhibitionist by uploading all kind of images of themselves on the Internet for strangers to watch.

But there are many people which do not like this trend and as such they are way more private and prefer not to reveal information about themselves unless it is necessary, and we think that sending our personal information to a casino is completely unnecessary.

By the way, a good way out (if you have a lot of registrations here and there) is to make a KYC for a passport for trips abroad. In my country, such passports can be made with a validity period of 3 or 10 years. it turns out that it is absolutely legal to change the main document for the KYC once every three years. If the regulation is really tough, then I will have to act in this way.

There's no assurance when it comes on handling out those customer information whether its a USA/EU it would really be still prone to risk for those information to leak out due to some hack or some inside exploit or something which there's no assurance or 100% guaranteed that those information wouldnt leak out sooner or later but somewhat entrusting or having that believe on to those things will not really be a bad idea.
Also complying out KYC is someones choice and you havent been forced considering that we do have lots of options or choices in the market then we could always opt in on making use of platforms
or services which arent really requiring for some verification.About licensed casinos then it is really much preferred but not all trusted ones are licensed so its situational.

Well, it's not really a kind of guarantee that these casino that had EU or USA license won't get hacked. But the risk is minimized because we can be sure that they keep on investing on their system to get it risk-free and the hacker can't go through the walls as this is their way just to keep their license safe too. How could you check the sites license? You can check that one on the internet, almost everything will be laid on you.

It's easy to check if casino has USA/EU license. You can look where this company registered.
At first, UK/USA/EU license not cheap and you need to implement some quality standards to achieve it. And because of price, I doubt that casino will break them, because after that it would get into court and lost money paid for license.

But only few online casinos and betting sites are registered within EU/UK/USA zones.

Data privacy and security is the key cause. I think gamblers are getting tired of selling their information for a risky fun adventure and it's becoming obvious by the day that each data we fill while signing up to any KYC based casino gets compromised along the line. So why should i be paying for a service that can't guarantee my privacy when there is a better option that keeps me private, secure and pseudonymous

Well as long as there is a gambling online casino that can protect your privacy, you can still avoid a KYC casino.
But I don't know, there are some people willing even to sell their data documents even for the cost of $20 or lower than that, I have seen this on social media just because of the welcome bonus that they will get upon creating an account. As we can see, many gambling casinos here required KYC, but still gamblers are willing to submit their KYC because there are here in the forum.

Some casino sites at the beginning they won't make kyc mandatory but after getting lots of people and they become popular then they will make kyc mandatory for their customers, which definitely not everybody will want to reveal their identity and also not everybody will be able to meet up with the requirements which they are demanding for kyc and at the end those people will endup losing their money which is very bad, the money automatically belongs to the team of the casino sites.

KYC is being weaponized by the casinos. When they think the player won “too much” money, they ask for KYC and then even you give them your data, they tell you that can’t tell you about the process because it is against the law blablabla and your money will be seized by the casino just like that. The exchanges do it too. That’s why people hate KYC wholeheartedly. Most of the time KYC is a tool for shielding the scammers.

The reason why gamblers keeps on finding platforms that will let them play without providing any KYC, there are people who will choose to be hidden and not to exceed with certain limitations to make sure that they will not be compromised, but once they've been force to provide the details, they will not take the risk but instead they will change house and try to continue enjoying their discreet participation with their gambling activities.

People sometimes want to gamble anonymously and then you want to remain anonymous. That's the main reason. Another important and common reason is that people don't trust gambling sites and companies. After all, you never know what will happen to all the information you send. It is digital, which basically means that it will never go off the internet again. You must be of good faith. I can imagine that you would not like to give such passport copies to a gambling site. You haven't the faintest idea what happened to it.

The funny thing is that the document verification process can take an incredible amount of time, and while this process is going on, the casino/exchange will use your money for free. Most of all, the asymmetry of the process infuriates me - everyone is ready to accept my money without any KYC, but when I want to withdraw it, various obstacles arise.

And if let say those hacker will be caught out, what are they going to return to you when a kyc is not like those physical documents. Also a hacker have already save different copies of your kyc. The only thing  that you can do is to clear your name. I think you can go on some government agencies and ask for help about this.

A casino can get closed for some reasons but if this casino is legit and have no past bad records then we shall not worry as the kyc that once we submit on them will not be sold or will be miss used by them but if we are still doubting then there are still gambling sites which kyc isn't required. We can play on them instead.

Some sire requires you first to fill up the KYC before allowing you to deposit some money so by this, you still have the time to think if you are going to push through and play on that site. If ever you see this as not possible and you don’t want to provide any personal details, then you still have the option to leave. In a case of withdrawal, I think its suspicious if they will ask for any KYC while they allow you to gamble in the first place, and most probably you don’t have any choice anymore because you can’t get your money if you didn’t comply, KYC is becoming a normal thing now.

^ I definitely agree with this.
It seems a loophole to them once there is a big amount, it is easy for them to find a solution just your money cannot get out to their wallet.
We have witnessed a lot of the same issues like this and that is why those people who are aware of that case will start to hate the KYC process.
But even though how we hate them, the fact that KYC is very common now, and most exchange or gambling casinos are required to have KYC because also it required as they follow governments protocol.

Asking for KYC on the time you do make out withdrawal is something that a shady act by someone or site to do such thing on which they should have asked out on the time where people do make out registration.This is why
people are really very that keen when it comes to dealing with sites that do ask out KYC.We do know that majority do really loves anonymity on which they arent exposing their identity to any services or platforms out there
but since regulations becomes stricter and just as we do know that gambling site businesses specially licensed ones would definitely need to comply on whats been asked thats why they dont really be having any option but
to comply or else that would really be giving a big effect into their company or simply it would really be closed down. They do know that community doesnt really like that way but as a business then they should really be
doing adjustments too.

Now that's what many KYC haters have become, this is a casino tool to hold users' money when they win big I think it's a reasonable reason but it will be legal because the casino has implemented in their rules so inevitably we have to do it if we want to get our money then it will be normal but when you can't get past it then the casino will have to hold the funds.
The rules are regulated and some of their licenses are under government supervision so KYC of course will be very common and always said to avoid scamers.

Yes, you have a valid point and I agree with you. That is really possible to happened or should I say, already happening now?

It's a good discussion you have started and I'm curious if there's a scenario already happened here about that.

My question is, is there a case like that before here that raised in the scam accusations section. If yes, can you give us some references to looked at?

I don't think casinos are getting into such kind of act. I've come across incidents in which the users were requested to submit KYC when they've won big and go for withdrawal of fund. Here if the person submit KYC from a restricted jurisdiction, then the same is being used as a way to stop the withdrawal.

Maybe this could've happened, but I haven't come across it. Casinos doesn't say that your money will be seized once a person have made a big win.

Yeah i do agree with it. I have been trying several casinos who didn't force its users to did KYC and those casino better than the casinos that forced its users to implement KYC. Having some alternatives were good. People didn't also wanna their identity to be owned by casinos. Im always seeing the KYC as a redflag for the casinos. Some were forcing their users to verify their identity were the worst casino.

The main purpose of Cryptos was to remain anonymous.
Now if the casinos will keep on asking for KYC, then on obviously the gamblers will feel offended.
Yes OP is also somewhere right regarding the data collection.
Who knows if they sell our KYC details any where other place also.
There are many gambling casinos also, who don’t need any KYC to play on. So comparing the sites who asks for KYC, gamblers find the previous category casinos more fit to play on.

I think this are pretty much the reason, and you forgot to add that some other gamblers are underaged and are afraid they will be banned if they submit document for kyc verification.
Another reason I thought (based on my previous experience) is that some people also do not have the required documents or means of passing the kyc verification if its made mandatory.
And also some casinos banned some regions from gambling on their platform, some gamblers resort to using VPN to hide or change their location, if for any reason, this casino decides to force kyc upon its users, it becomes a problem for those using that casino from banned region.
Apart from this two ive mentioned, i believe every other reasons i could think of have been mentioned by you, the op 

That's what many of us don't like because those casino sites change their policies without telling their customers. And that's also what makes us move to other casinos to find comfort in playing gambling. If casinos had implemented kyc from the start, I think they would still be able to get customers because they've been honest with their potential customers.

It would be better if the casino could give its customers an option i.e., if they cross the limit of the casino, they have to complete the kyc. But if they do not cross the restrictions of the casino, they are free to play gambling, deposit and withdraw their money. It will give its customers the freedom not to cross the line if they refuse kyc. Apart from that, casinos can also teach their customers lessons to learn to control themselves.

Sometimes they avoid kyc at the casinos due to personal privacy they don't want to reveal it. Sometimes there are times when we gamble and we win big, and we get to the point where we want to release what we have won by gambling because it is big, then the casino sometimes gives a policy to players who proud of the amount you release on their gambling platform they required their clients to submit kyc which the gambler or player has no other choice but to submit it.

You're wrong, actually almost of cryptos are centralized and doesn't have any purpose to remain anonymous. Bitcoin itself isn't anonymous, but pseudonymous. You can list how many privacy coins and divide with the amount of all altcoins, I believe it's either or less than 1%.

Honestly you should check the TOS first before using any services including casino, if they have a mandatory KYC rule and you're not happy with it. Just don't use and find another casino that suit for you.

Of course, the majority would still want to remain their identity hidden, and releasing a piece of personal information is really risky if there will be a time that the site will be hacked, we never know and it's better to be safe than sorry. But I guess we will just have to get used to it because, in no time, we won't have the same freedom we have now as sooner or later, all casinos will ask KYC upon registering at their platform.

I highly agree with this one, I know that the government is putting some pressure to these casinos to have a KYC to every customer but frankly talking, these same procedure are being used by some casinos to take advantage and control our funds. At first, they just tell us that it's processing and usually that takes a lot of time, in the end, you find yourself in unwanted position where your funds are being freeze and seized.

Yes, we never know how secure a gambling site can be and with our permission in submitting our personal information once that happen we are also placing ourselves in danger as hackers can simply use this info to an illegal thing online, or they can sell it out. The reason why there are still gamblers who wanted to stay discreet and not willing to proceed once KYC has being ask to continue gambling.

Gamblers like this will be more willing to look for another site to play and stay hidden instead of submitting KYC.

Some people are afraid and some are not. this is the same as you trade on the exchange where in previous years there was no kyc requirement but now almost everyone has to do kyc to be able to trade on top exchanges like binance. and this may also apply in the coming years for top gambling sites to enforce kyc for gambling players and I wouldn't be surprised if all gamblers later confirmed they had done kyc.

People should really expect such possible changes because it is really gradually becoming something like this where platforms which are regulated and licensed would really be having those changes where KYC is a must

but for now we are still thankful that we could still able to play without any verification but sooner or later then expect the unexpected about things to become rough and its up to your whether it would really be an acceptable thing or you would really just strive to find for another place for you to deal with gambling without having those verification.

People here on this crypto space isnt really that comfortable with kyc or any verification thats why whenever we do encounter kyc then its really out of our interest or doesnt really appeal at all.

Indeed kyc is a boring thing for gamblers but you know what I mean earlier is where this might happen in the years to come and not in the present. because some gambling platforms that are well known and trusted by the public do not require KYC for newcomers or old players .

so from this situation i can't deduce how dangerous the kyc gambling platform would be if they had to do it later. maybe the gamblers will opt out of that gambling site, just guessing

If we do talk solely on cryptocurrency market where casinos who are solely accepting crypto payments (not fiat ones included) then for sure their owner would really be doing their best on retaining on kyc-less kind of site as much as they could since they could able to see that there's soo much demand on casinos which doesnt ask out for some verification and this is indeed why people do prefer on dealing with casinos
that doesnt ask out any verification.

We do really give importance in our information and there's no something that we should be worried.We just make deposit and play right away without minding if those informations
you had sent out would leaked or something like that.

I doubt gamblers that already playing for a long time will opt out of that gambling site if KYC will be implemented. The trust is already there and the reputation of that site is now on the highest level. There should be no hesitation for these players to continue playing on that site even if KYC will be enforced.

That was though far from happening for now. Instead of being worried, let's enjoy the moment to play in our preferred gambling site without a KYC. Don't consider playing in a casino that was new in service if KYC is mandatorily implemented there to minimize the risks of identity theft.

Even if a reputable casino site suddenly obliges to deposit KYC this would be up for debate, there will be some gamblers who disagree. Because when we talk about KYC, it concerns the identity of the gambler in detail. those who do not want their privacy to be known by others will certainly choose to leave the casino.
but if a new casino site operates implementing KYC, many people will avoid it, but some others start researching whether the casino site has a good reputation or not.

If there is a debate between gamblers about KYC, maybe the casino could implement a way of limiting the number of withdrawals that gamblers will make so that if they don't cross the withdrawal limit, they don't have to do KYC.
At least, it can protect the gamblers to keep playing in that casino and they don't have to do KYC and can enjoy their time in that casino.
Maybe the casino itself doesn't want to implement KYC for its members.
Still, after all, the casino is supervised by the regulator and doesn't want to violate the regulator's rules. This might be a dilemma for that casino in terms of KYC so they need to consider it before making a decision.

Now that you've mentioned it, I think its a good idea. Perhaps letting the players have a choice whether to have KYC or not could save them and the casino unnecessary trouble. Putting up certain limit of withdrawal is a good concept so that the players would be mindful of their winning withdrawals to avoid undergoing KYC process. Because as we all know, not everyone is in favor and fond of doing KYC. Some people just really prefer to be in the shadows and not expose their identity as well as their transactions.

Although I don't know what might happen regarding monitoring the income flow of the casino. Because KYC is also important at some point on determining taxation. A monitored number of active users is a must. So maybe they could try to incorporate and strategize first to check if there would be more advantages or disadvantages.

This is an interesting perspective, but I must say, I completely disagree with it. Yes, one time, when I was first time in my life passing KYC, I was pissed off beyond limits by the process. I couldn't successfully complete it with many tries(and after every 3 or 4 tries I should ask the site to aloow me to try to pass it again), it was horrible. But it wasn't like that because of the size of the amount I was going to withdraw, around $150. Definitely not. Rather, I had no experience. And after finally passing it, I saved the screenshots of the successful try, and was using it later for other sites, and the process has become much simpler for me in the future.

Overall, I don't think even one reliable casino or exchange has "weaponized" the process. Firstly, because it is not performed by casino owners or someone who knows how much you want to withdraw. Secondly, because it is something you get your business closed for if caught.

Not only in gambling, I think most people will more likely to avoid any platform that require them to submit their personal data. Everything that is on internet has a risk of being hacked, and eventhough most people that your ID worth 0 money, the risk of identity theft is far more dangerous than just losing some money.

People avoid passing KYC at gambling sites or share any private data on the internet, and are completely unafraid to give phone numbers, emails and personal data to strangers in real life or pass "partial KYC" when filling form to get shop discount cards :D They better not pass KYC on platform that has sort of a security and risk that a stranger from any part of the world hacks casinos data base. And completely not afraid to give personal info to a stranger, that lives in the same country they live in :D

The reason why I avoid KYC - I try to make less people know about me, as I am not very friendly. Less people know me, less people I know.

In crypto gambling this is a relative topic,while every single crypto casino from the major ones,the reputable and trustworthy ones will have to ask for KYC,most of the time they don't unless you hit a mega big win which can make them suspicious and they need to do a double check.In all cases it is always better to be verified than not,despite the risks to our personal data coming from such events.In exchanges for example you can't withdraw any money or can withdraw very little if you have not undergone KYC,the same is even in the crypto casinos,you can withdraw small amounts normally without KYC up to 1000 dollars but for more you need to be verified and that is they way it should be.Avoiding KYC makes no sense if you have got nothing to hide.

chances are they will persist and be willing to do anything because of their previous belief they are already safe with the site. but this will certainly be a pros and cons later if the gambling platform enforces kyc. well at least 10% of active players will probably opt out first to consider having to do kyc.

I think this is not ridiculous to do next season because as we know the velocity of money on gambling platforms is very large, so many parties from every country carry out various unreasonable rules such as KYC.

With that choice, gamblers can know what they should choose so they will not violate the rules of the casino.
Gamblers who don't like KYC will try not to cross the set limits so they can continue to gamble in the shadows.
I guess casinos are also given some leeway in terms of KYC because the government doesn't want to impose too strict regulations on casinos so that casinos, gamblers and the government can still go their separate ways.
It is hoped that with the freedom for gamblers in terms of these two choices, gamblers can stay in the same casino without crossing boundaries. In contrast, the casino can continue providing even better customer service.

implementing a withdrawal limit rule so that no KYC is required would be very appropriate, as with some crypto exchanges. Those who require large transactions are forced to do KYC, but it is optional, it does not become mandatory when only withdrawing a small amount of funds.
KYC is important if the Casino website also has a lot of users and is already popular, but if it's just a new website it will be a problem and many won't use it.
Talking about the problem of implementing KYC in gambling there will be no valid solution, it all depends on the needs and privacy of each. If you don't have a problem with privacy then you can continue, if privacy is very important then don't use the KYC option.

This one of the major issues gamblers are facing that are making the experience ones to avoid KYC gambling sites. When you win big, most gambling platforms would want to know your identity by asking your to submit your identity or loss getting paid. I don't know why this is done always but there should be an end to this. Cryptocurrency gambling should be decentralized and platforms should stop asking us of our identity before we make withdrawals which is not encouraging to me.

I for one is also not in favor on how these platforms uses KYC procedures as their shields and I really think they are already abusing their boundaries. If they want to ask KYC then they should've had asked it while we're still registering our account and not when we withdraws the funds. What do they expect? We signed up so frankly we are looking forward to have some winnings and they can always trace these funds if indeed it comes from playing games and not just from another account.

And if we choose to submit our personal information then I'm afraid that it will also means that we're accepting the risk we could get if in case the site where our identities are submitted will be hacked. I'm also guilty of this because I also submitted my personal details for verification purposes and I'm just hoping that their wall are strong enough to prevent these hackers from going through. Online casinos are one of the main targets of these hackers because the information and details they can get comes with an expensive price in the black market.

It is not just about the danger of having identities stolen when websites get hacked.... it is also about the danger about people sending their ID to front websites, those types of websites that are deemed to be genuine but their whole premise is to gather as much information as possible from gullible members that sign up to their services. That information (ID) will then be sold on to other criminal gangs for nefarious purposes.

The possibility of such situation is always there.
This is why you should only comply with KYC requirements that you think is necessary to do so.
Otherwise, stick to top and reputable gambling sites. As we don't know where our info will end up with.
Hackers will always do their job of screwing up sites. So it is also the job of the sites to update their security protocols.

I think if that time comes, other popular and reputable gambling sites are also having a mandatory KYC.

Therefore that 10% might stay and won't probably be out of that said site. Imagine that a site with the big name already enforced KYC means that the regulations on most crypto gambling sites are now strictly implemented. For me, it's not that really a big deal if things turned out like that since nothing we can do in the first place.

But as much as possible, the KYC should not be forced to be strict at crypto-gambling sites since the no-KYC is one of the big reasons why we choose to play here.

First: Simply because they want privacy, especially in casinos that accept cryptocurrencies;
Second: Identity theft and user data, information nowadays is worth like gold;
Third: Illegality on the part of the player... either because the country where he resides prohibits gambling or because the player is a minor.
There are three reasons strong enough for someone to choose not to hand over their data.

The fact that many big casinos need KYC is not denied and this sometimes likely forces the users to do so. There are probably some considerations (or a must) to implement KYC for several certain importances.
I will think likely what happened to Binance right now, they used no KYC but they started to change the regulation and implement KYC for Binance. This may also happen to a certain casinos. ANd sadly, we may not have choice again besides doing the KYC if we have been familiar, comfortable, and enjoy enough gambling on certain casino platforms.
Actually, KYC itself is various, some may be too strict that also really need ourID photo and also our photo with the ID live video, but some may onlygive certai n email or ther data input.

The big casino also puts a limit on what a gambler can do if the gambler doesn't want to do KYC and the gambler actually realizes that.
But unfortunately, due to the desire to win more winning money, the gamblers keep playing and depositing more money.
I also don't know about Binance but many traders have done KYC to be able to continue trading there.
Let's hope nothing bad happens to Binance in the future.

What I think it happens is that when a business is small they can get away with not asking for your personal information as they know there is no one that is observing their every movement.

But once they reach a certain size the governments and their different agencies begin to put their attention on them then they cannot get away with that behavior anymore, and they have no choice but to implement harsher and more strict policies regarding KYC.

Certainly that is the same reason why we chose to play at these sites but I'm afraid that sooner, the authorities will put more pressure into these sites to enforce and implement strict KYC even before we decide to withdraw out funds. I can see that these sites will start to ask our information up front while we are trying to register on their platform.
If that will be the case, then for sure there will be lots of gamblers who will opt to the most trusted and reputable sites.

Many casinos take advantage of asking kyc, as this gives them a chance to easily take away the player's winning money. Crypto users always try to avoid kyc and hide their identity.
There are many players who are on the casino's list of banned countries because they can't do kyc, so they can't withdraw their winning money. Crypto casinos should be decentralised, but whether that will happen or not may be seen in the coming days.

Unfortunately that is what we're facing now, we choose to play in them because of the anonymity they can bring but these days, it's already a different story as most casinos now are asking us for details to approve the withdrawal of our winnings. I agree, yes, casinos are just obeying and implementing the orders of the authorities but these platforms that are implementing it cannot certainly deny that they are also taking advantage of these KYC's.

Is this a crypto-casino you are referring to?

I don't know that something like that exists nowadays. Do you mean for every withdrawal? What I know is that it's just applied for big winnings but we are not talking about $1,000 winnings should be subject right away to KYC. It's been always on the terms that big winnings might require KYC but we don't know what amount is considered big winnings. Maybe starting from $10,000? $15,000? We don't know.

May we know what crypto-casinos are asking for our details to approve our withdrawal?

^ Does not important to know them, we know that most of them are those casinos that asked for KYC verifications for their users which is very frustrating even though we have submitted KYC upon creation of our account but if we will win a big amount they will ask again. This is the reason why we should avoid a KYC gambling casino, we have a lot here a KYC casino but I prefer to use a non-KYC casino because I know they will not ask for any personal data once you will win a big amount.

If we do tend to read up every terms and conditions of all cryptocurrency gambling sites or platforms at this moment then we would always be stated that those casinos does anytime have the right for asking for some verification or KYC if they do saw some problems towards our problem behavior which means that there's always a risk for KYC but of course if you arent doing something stupid or shady then i dont see for you to
be that to worried about such rules and regulation.Here on crypto space were are really that mindful or being much preferred about anonymity and the safety of our identity which means that if we do see
a platform which doesnt ask out for some verification then this is where people do really sticks out and avoid it as much as they could.

You are right, scammers will do everything in their power, a simple KYC is not good for one of these beings, for this reason is that sometimes we have to be careful with casinos that are recently launched, we do not know anything about their security, how they handle it because they are relatively new, and this means that problems of very bad taste can be added, both for the players and for the casino in general. Even when the casino is new and managed by a well-known campaign manager, you must be very careful and very measured when playing, because it may be that a whole scenario has been set up where the main potential is the welcome bonuses and in the end it is not possible. comply, as has recently happened with one casino in particular.

I think the security system in gambling places can be implemented in several layers, maybe you can apply KYC such as email and then a phone number and the last KYC for those who have transactions or balances above the limits set by the gambling place management. Because so far when people send their data to gambling places it will go to the database server that they have prepared to accommodate all the data along with photos and it can be used for something that the owner of the data does not know, so stay alert wherever you are.

KYC will not always be safe, the risk of being misused is very large, especially on a gambling site that has just been launched. I will definitely go straight away from gambling sites that require KYC even though their site is still very new, which means they only want users' personal data. personal data is important and can also be money (for scammers) so don't carelessly provide information about personal data.

all of the given reason are valid , either they dont trust the casino as selling our details to 3rd party is indeed happening and then will be abused for so many uses.

some it is Illegal in their region or religion so not giving KYC for this matter.

but I myself definitely played in KYC related site as it is more safer than those who not need LYC.

You know Sir, you're right about what you said, that's true. Sometimes, you can laugh and just shake our heads at that kind of system they have, the one who is good at receiving the money to be put in, especially if it is a large amount. Then they also don't care if a gambler loses a lot, then it becomes impossible it's fair to withdraw a large amount of a gambler's winnings on their casino platform, as if they don't want you to withdraw a large amount of money that you want as a gambler so they suddenly doubt one of their cleints.

There are many complaints against various casinos that they are not giving winning money to players on the pretext of kyc. But this should not have been the case for a player to find himself in such a situation. So the way the casinos are operating in the market now and the way the casino team asks for kyc if a player wins big, it is necessary to be mentally prepared before joining any casino that kyc may be required at any time.

First of all, if a player requires honesty from the casino, he should be honest himself and provide real personal information when registering.
The problem, however, is that many casinos do not inform players that KYC verification may be required. Info that verification may be required  is often written somewhere in a small print at the end of a long ToS.

Unfortunately, I think it would be nice if the OP could start a poll in this thread to get results on why people avoid KYC in casinos. This can help you draw conclusions based on user-voted answers, but that's okay because maybe you don't want to do it or just forgot.

Privacy is my main reason, while the other is data security which is not guaranteed. II do not fully believe that we can remove all KYC documents from any gambling platform. It is possible that a copy of the data is stored in their database especially in casinos whose reputation is not improving and growing. It will be very risky to be leaked and misused especially if the casino in question turns into a scam in the future.

That's the main reason why I also avoid KYC I'm afraid there is a copy of their database of course it really worries me if they misuse my documents for something they don't want, but if the casino turns into a scam in the future there is a possibility of misuse of our data that they do , so avoid anything about KYC from casinos even if they have a good reputation.

If casino is registered in EU/UK zone you can easily check it through site. It should be in their ToS.

Because if casino will sell your data, it will fall under regulators laws and with a high probability it's owners will go to jail for such actions and you will get a big compensation. EU/UK laws isn't a joke.


Ofc it can't assurance to you that casino will not fall under hackers attack. But it will ensure you that casino at least will try to secure it's data (because of regulator laws) and if such leak will happen, you can sue them.

In many cases those players do not get their funds back even after providing Kyc verification information. Players are aware of the TOS and even after they follow those rules, those websites continue to hold their customer's funds with various excuses. As long as a gambler keeps losing in a casino, that gambler is not in trouble. The problem starts when a gambler wins big amounts. So it is true that gamblers should be prepared to provide accurate personal information before depositing big amounts in any casino.

Your post is a little bit dubious ScamViruS, are you saying those to blame are not the scammers but are the victims? What victims should have concretely done according to you? Because I don't understand how being mentally prepared would avoid casinos to scam you by asking non-existent documents to withdraw your winnings?

Main factor is what will happen to your information if the site you submitted your KYC ends up scamming, the chance that they can sell their database and yes misuse of your information is the next thing to follow or to expect. There are other reasons why gamblers are avoiding this data to be submitted. Instead of following the rules, gamblers choose to find other platforms to play.

Once they've been asked for KYC, they will simply leave and look for another alternative.

Gamblers are so identical that it would not be easy to give away their data just to gamble. So far, there are quite a lot of gambling site sites scattered out there, so if one of them implements KYC, does the owner of the gambling site really think carefully because attracting new members will be quite difficult so far because they have to be able to compete with well-known gambling sites. if they do kyc the gambling players will choose to leave the gambling site and will choose another site and the big factor will be a decline in players and over time the site must close or go bankrupt because the income they get is getting smaller day by day because the cause is implementing the kyc rule  .