Reasons why people avoid KYC in gambling casino ?

[crzy]

Yeah, nothing online is safe especially if it is related to crypto and finance. That is the reason why gamblers refuse to send personal documents to verify accounts, it is understandable considering how shady things may happen if the site got hacked. The purpose of KYC verification is simple: Gambling platforms wanna know who are you and whether you break T&C or not. If the user is from restricted areas and using the website illegally, this information can put the platform license under question in the long run.

And ofcourse there is no harm if you are uncomfortable sharing your private documents with other.
The online casinos have their rules and of course gamblor have their privacy concern with is absolutely OK.  Although many gamblers avoid KYC still their accounts get hacked and they faces losses.

Definitely right, some users who don’t want to comply with the KYC still fall as a victim of the hackers and I’m thinking if KYC can really help users to be more secured. I’m ok with filling up personal information, but I’m hesitant to provide any documents for some security purposes, and honestly as much as possible I still prefer to gamble without filling up any KYC.

[seleme]

Yeah, nothing online is safe especially if it is related to crypto and finance. That is the reason why gamblers refuse to send personal documents to verify accounts, it is understandable considering how shady things may happen if the site got hacked. The purpose of KYC verification is simple: Gambling platforms wanna know who are you and whether you break T&C or not. If the user is from restricted areas and using the website illegally, this information can put the platform license under question in the long run.

And ofcourse there is no harm if you are uncomfortable sharing your private documents with other.
The online casinos have their rules and of course gamblor have their privacy concern with is absolutely OK.  Although many gamblers avoid KYC still their accounts get hacked and they faces losses.

Definitely right, some users who don’t want to comply with the KYC still fall as a victim of the hackers and I’m thinking if KYC can really help users to be more secured. I’m ok with filling up personal information, but I’m hesitant to provide any documents for some security purposes, and honestly as much as possible I still prefer to gamble without filling up any KYC.

But at one point, website management will ask to confirm the details you entered during registration. This point can be the day when you win over $10k and can't withdraw due to the KYC ban by the casino. Things turn against you at this level and you can't remember the data you entered during the signup process. That is why you are under threat when a website gets hacked or someone from the team leaks info to third parties.

[blockman]

But there are some services you will not access without KYC, that is why most centralized platforms are using KYC to nail down they customers, take binance for example. Nobody can access the exchange without going through the KYC process.

Binance is asking KYC completely and you can only withdraw to them if you have not completed the verification. The casinos are different, they'll ask when they are not satisfied and would like to verify their user based on the volume of the transaction for withdrawal and how huge it is.
Because they don't want them to be used as gateway for mixing coins and the other casinos have been aware of that.

[Ebede]

Yeah, nothing online is safe especially if it is related to crypto and finance. That is the reason why gamblers refuse to send personal documents to verify accounts, it is understandable considering how shady things may happen if the site got hacked. The purpose of KYC verification is simple: Gambling platforms wanna know who are you and whether you break T&C or not. If the user is from restricted areas and using the website illegally, this information can put the platform license under question in the long run.

And ofcourse there is no harm if you are uncomfortable sharing your private documents with other.
The online casinos have their rules and of course gamblor have their privacy concern with is absolutely OK.  Although many gamblers avoid KYC still their accounts get hacked and they faces losses.

Definitely right, some users who don’t want to comply with the KYC still fall as a victim of the hackers and I’m thinking if KYC can really help users to be more secured. I’m ok with filling up personal information, but I’m hesitant to provide any documents for some security purposes, and honestly as much as possible I still prefer to gamble without filling up any KYC.

But at one point, website management will ask to confirm the details you entered during registration. This point can be the day when you win over $10k and can't withdraw due to the KYC ban by the casino. Things turn against you at this level and you can't remember the data you entered during the signup process. That is why you are under threat when a website gets hacked or someone from the team leaks info to third parties.

I wanted to verify the account is because of if not the amount of money he's been going through the casino game underworld to make is to be credited to the account you can solve the currency verification that is too long the particular account and the heat benefits of that that is why I have to run the kyc for any casino and resort

[tabas]

Definitely right, some users who don’t want to comply with the KYC still fall as a victim of the hackers and I’m thinking if KYC can really help users to be more secured. I’m ok with filling up personal information, but I’m hesitant to provide any documents for some security purposes, and honestly as much as possible I still prefer to gamble without filling up any KYC.

It can help when it times of withdrawals and they're verified. Withdrawals that are unauthorized being detected by the system, they're going to delay it.
Especially those that has automatic withdrawals and don't go through manual process, that will be one big part to play for the kyc when their system caught someone trying to withdraw your money unauthorized.

[Slow death]

But there are some services you will not access without KYC, that is why most centralized platforms are using KYC to nail down they customers, take binance for example. Nobody can access the exchange without going through the KYC process.

Binance is asking KYC completely and you can only withdraw to them if you have not completed the verification. The casinos are different, they'll ask when they are not satisfied and would like to verify their user based on the volume of the transaction for withdrawal and how huge it is.
Because they don't want them to be used as gateway for mixing coins and the other casinos have been aware of that.

the weirdest part about it is that:

1 - when someone deposits a lot of money in the casino they don't ask for KYC

2 - when someone loses a lot of money at the casino they don't ask for KYC

they only ask when the person withdraws a lot of money, but it is strange because there are casinos that in their TOS they require that when the person makes a deposit of X value, that person makes bets that reach the volume that corresponds to the deposit so that he is able to withdraw, in this case it makes no sense that the casino still asks for KYC at the time of withdrawal, but they still ask for KYC

[harizen]

They don't trust the casino as the casino might misuse the kyc documents or the gamblers want to gamble without telling anyone that they are the gamblers,  gambling is illegal in their region or religion and they want to hide their identity or there could be any other solid reason?

Sounds like that's not making sense. Why do they play in that casino if they don't trust it in the first place lol?

Losing money is fine as long as no KYC? It's that what you meant here? From the very beginning, they shouldn't risk their money there since they don't trust it.

It's not that way. Gamblers don't want to provide KYC because it doesn't make sense to do it. Gambling sites don't work the same as crypto exchanges that's why even for regulation purposes, KYC shouldn't be mandated at gambling platforms.

[kawetsriyanto]

They don't trust the casino as the casino might misuse the kyc documents or the gamblers want to gamble without telling anyone that they are the gamblers,  gambling is illegal in their region or religion and they want to hide their identity or there could be any other solid reason?

Yep, these can be some solid reasons to avoid KYC. Especially about the possibility that the casino site misuses our private data. As gamblers, we should prefer to choose a casino site that can make us feel safe. If we can gamble without the need for KYC, we don't need to worry about our privacy. There are many cases of the misuse of KYC documents, casino sites must realize this. By the way, regarding a gambler doesn't want anyone to know about his gambling activity on that site, it should be guaranteed by the casino. They won't publish their clients' data. What we are afraid that the casino may sell our private data on the black market.

IMO

[agustina2]

they only ask when the person withdraws a lot of money, but it is strange because there are casinos that in their TOS they require that when the person makes a deposit of X value, that person makes bets that reach the volume that corresponds to the deposit so that he is able to withdraw, in this case it makes no sense that the casino still asks for KYC at the time of withdrawal, but they still ask for KYC

But to trigger the KYC on casino withdrawals, it should be that large amount of money involved.

It won't be triggered if the amount involved is just $1,000, $2,000, or maybe even up to $10,000 withdrawals.

Just play on our usual and everything will be smooth not unless the KYC is really mandatory at the start. For that, check the site's Terms and Conditions.

[makishart]

But there are some services you will not access without KYC, that is why most centralized platforms are using KYC to nail down they customers, take binance for example. Nobody can access the exchange without going through the KYC process.

Binance is asking KYC completely and you can only withdraw to them if you have not completed the verification. The casinos are different, they'll ask when they are not satisfied and would like to verify their user based on the volume of the transaction for withdrawal and how huge it is.
Because they don't want them to be used as gateway for mixing coins and the other casinos have been aware of that.

the weirdest part about it is that:

1 - when someone deposits a lot of money in the casino they don't ask for KYC

2 - when someone loses a lot of money at the casino they don't ask for KYC

they only ask when the person withdraws a lot of money, but it is strange because there are casinos that in their TOS they require that when the person makes a deposit of X value, that person makes bets that reach the volume that corresponds to the deposit so that he is able to withdraw, in this case it makes no sense that the casino still asks for KYC at the time of withdrawal, but they still ask for KYC

LOL no doubt if the main purpose to make people will be very difficult to withdraw their money. That rule was also forcing people to verify and reveal their identity. I was always considering that kind of casino as a scam casino. There's no guarantee if withdraw will be smooth after you have verified your account through sending your KYC to them. They were making their TOS stricting people to withdraw their money. Less money can be withdrawn from that casino.

[Smartprofit]

In my opinion, there can be many good reasons for a player to opt out of the KYC procedure. 

Anonymity and confidentiality are the core values ​​of a crypto enthusiast. 

These values ​​were important to Satoshi Nakamoto and others who were at the forefront of Bitcoin.  They are important to all of us. 

The KYC procedure carries a great danger for the player.  Confidential data can get into the dark web and be used by criminals for illegal purposes.  For example, data obtained as part of the KYC procedure can be used to apply for a loan or loan, as registration data for illegal and criminal actions. 

Therefore, I avoid online casinos that require mandatory KYC.

[JollyGood]

That is the standard pattern that many exchanges, on-the-fly-exchanges as well as gaming and gambling websites employ. I mentioned in a different thread today that the Terms and Conditions (or Terms of Service) have routinely been misused and exploited by unscrupulous website operators to justify withholding funds from their own customers/clients.

Winning 'big' is something most if not all gamblers are aiming for but that could also be a poisoned chalice for them because shady website operators might start asking for KYC in the hope the customer refuses, which would allow the scammers to keep the funds.

the weirdest part about it is that:

1 - when someone deposits a lot of money in the casino they don't ask for KYC

2 - when someone loses a lot of money at the casino they don't ask for KYC

they only ask when the person withdraws a lot of money, but it is strange because there are casinos that in their TOS they require that when the person makes a deposit of X value, that person makes bets that reach the volume that corresponds to the deposit so that he is able to withdraw, in this case it makes no sense that the casino still asks for KYC at the time of withdrawal, but they still ask for KYC

[Japinat]

In my opinion, there can be many good reasons for a player to opt out of the KYC procedure. 

Anonymity and confidentiality are the core values ​​of a crypto enthusiast. 

These values ​​were important to Satoshi Nakamoto and others who were at the forefront of Bitcoin.  They are important to all of us. 

The KYC procedure carries a great danger for the player.  Confidential data can get into the dark web and be used by criminals for illegal purposes.  For example, data obtained as part of the KYC procedure can be used to apply for a loan or loan, as registration data for illegal and criminal actions. 

Therefore, I avoid online casinos that require mandatory KYC.

But we cannot really blame these casinos because they are just implementing what the government wants as they won't have their license if they would not obey that implementation. The government is just harsh sometimes with these kinds of things but these things have only surfaced when they received intel that casinos and other online platforms may have been used to launder money.
But we as decent citizens, we are taking the burden because of those criminal organizations, so now we are taking these KYC procedures even if we don't want it so that we can claim and withdraw our winnings/funds.

[Maslate]

Some users are not comfortable with sharing personal documents on illegal gambling websites without a proper license. Getting license from Curacao is easy for average businessman and gambling platforms can use this info for their own advantage. I personally don't want to see my documents on the sale lists of dark websites. Other players use the crypto gambling platforms from restricted regions thanks to VPN but whenever website aka gambling site management catches them they will not agree to send personal documents for obvious reasons.

Even if it was a very huge company with plenty of trust gained.

People still tend to refuse to do the KYC for privacy and security reasons , you wont feel secure once your documents uploaded as things around internet are never safe , sensitive data like the dox are the most wanted one for those privacy stealers, people will never want to do the kyc despite the purpose are for security reasons ... it gave us insecurity instead.

Yeah, nothing online is safe especially if it is related to crypto and finance. That is the reason why gamblers refuse to send personal documents to verify accounts, it is understandable considering how shady things may happen if the site got hacked. The purpose of KYC verification is simple: Gambling platforms wanna know who are you and whether you break T&C or not. If the user is from restricted areas and using the website illegally, this information can put the platform license under question in the long run.

Yes, that is the purpose of KYC but that is just for the platform but that same purpose will be a disadvantage of the client's side like us, because we as the gambler will be at risk as our private details are given to the platform just to pass that KYC. We're just hoping that the casino we've trusted will not be hacked because that same information we had given to them will be put for sale in the black market.

[gunhell16]

KYC is useless unless it is the type of KYC that requires you to take a live selfie after you submitted your I.D. But most of the KYC that I've seen doesn't require a selfie to verify that the I.D you've submitted is really you, not your parents I.D or someone's I.D. For me, I don't really trust this process because you're at a disadvantage if you submitted a legitimate identification of yours, since you don't know where they are really going to use it.

Well sometimes I don't care about the KYC as long as it will not require a selfie ID, perhaps email address and phone number verification are enough as a requirement in KYC. The reason why gamblers avoid KYC is that they want this privacy, they afraid to expose their name could perhaps someday the site will leak and turn into a hack which is your identity documents possible is in the hands of scammers.
We cannot blame them if they avoid KYC gambling casinos because that is what they preferred.

At some point it is correct, where other gamblers just want to be anonymous and privacy to remain secret. It's just that sometimes, we have other gambling platforms that you can't play until the gambler passes the KYC, which is why it seems annoying that such a system that they have is not good for me because why other gambling platforms are the system is not like that.

[yazher]

Definitely right, some users who don’t want to comply with the KYC still fall as a victim of the hackers and I’m thinking if KYC can really help users to be more secured. I’m ok with filling up personal information, but I’m hesitant to provide any documents for some security purposes, and honestly as much as possible I still prefer to gamble without filling up any KYC.

It's really hard to get back your personal information once it's gone to the hands of hackers or some people who will use it for some sort of scams. Since KYC is really critical and one bad move it could go wrong and will gonna ruin your life in a blink of an eye, people will avoid passing it and they will just prefer to play on some online casino that doesn't require it because it's really risky to do so. More or less, they are scared that when the Casino is closed, their personal information will be sold on the deep web to be used for some evil actions.

[JollyGood]

KYC information is traded on the black market between criminals every day. After that information has been misused once it will be sold again and again between various criminal groups that will use it for nefarious purposes. Once it is sold on the black market, the rightful owner will never have cntrol over it again.

Sending KYC to organisations of little standing should be avoided as should sending it to those that try to invoke various clauses in their dubious Terms and Conditions (ToS) in order to withhold funds.

It's really hard to get back your personal information once it's gone to the hands of hackers or some people who will use it for some sort of scams. Since KYC is really critical and one bad move it could go wrong and will gonna ruin your life in a blink of an eye, people will avoid passing it and they will just prefer to play on some online casino that doesn't require it because it's really risky to do so. More or less, they are scared that when the Casino is closed, their personal information will be sold on the deep web to be used for some evil actions.

[Betwrong]

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1 - when someone deposits a lot of money in the casino they don't ask for KYC

There are gambling sites where you can't register, or, you can't even open the front page because of the area restriction. It's not a full KYC, but kinda in the same ballpark.

2 - when someone loses a lot of money at the casino they don't ask for KYC

They simply can't do that in that case. Actually, this made me smile when I thought of it. Imagine, a casino asking you for KYC before showing you the result of your lost huge bet. Such a practice could be exploited brutally by some gamblers.

[ethereumhunter]

LOL no doubt if the main purpose to make people will be very difficult to withdraw their money. That rule was also forcing people to verify and reveal their identity. I was always considering that kind of casino as a scam casino. There's no guarantee if withdraw will be smooth after you have verified your account through sending your KYC to them. They were making their TOS stricting people to withdraw their money. Less money can be withdrawn from that casino.

People will be made difficult to withdraw their winnings by making strict KYC because that is what suspicious casinos will do. But a trusted casino with a good reputation won't do it because once they do and many of their members complain, the casino can lose out on a huge potential profit. People who play at crypto casinos will probably prefer casinos that don't implement KYC as they don't want to send their documents to the casino for security reasons.

[Issa56]

People will be made difficult to withdraw their winnings by making strict KYC because that is what suspicious casinos will do.

Yes thats what suspicious casino will do, but at the end they will say they are just security conscious that's why they implemented strict kyc. After the kyc have been implemented, they will make it strick so that most people won't be able to meet up with their kyc requirements, which at the end they won't be able to make withdrawal from the casino site and the money belongs to the site.
Also I won't really recommend anybody to use any casino site with kyc, because anything can happen to your data.