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July 07, 2022, 05:15:11 PM |
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It's really hard to get back your personal information once it's gone to the hands of hackers or some people who will use it for some sort of scams. Since KYC is really critical and one bad move it could go wrong and will gonna ruin your life in a blink of an eye, people will avoid passing it and they will just prefer to play on some online casino that doesn't require it because it's really risky to do so. More or less, they are scared that when the Casino is closed, their personal information will be sold on the deep web to be used for some evil actions.
As I understand it, the most effective and easiest way to correct errors from the fact that your documents leaked to the network is to make a new passport (for example, under the pretext of losing the old one). Usually it costs a small fine and some bureaucratic problems, but you will have new documents and the old ones are guaranteed to lose their validity. It is a pity that this method cannot be used regularly (for example, once a year), this will cause huge questions and suspicions, as it seems to me.
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July 07, 2022, 05:57:32 PM |
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People will be made difficult to withdraw their winnings by making strict KYC because that is what suspicious casinos will do.
Yes thats what suspicious casino will do, but at the end they will say they are just security conscious that's why they implemented strict kyc. After the kyc have been implemented, they will make it strick so that most people won't be able to meet up with their kyc requirements, which at the end they won't be able to make withdrawal from the casino site and the money belongs to the site. Also I won't really recommend anybody to use any casino site with kyc, because anything can happen to your data. I respect your recommendation but KYC is done to avoid minor gambling, money laundering, and also multiple accounts out there, there are many choices (KYC and non-KYC crypto gambling sites), everyone is free to choose but still for those who don't have a problem with KYC should choose to do KYC on a large trusted and reputable gambling site
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July 07, 2022, 06:21:43 PM |
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It's really hard to get back your personal information once it's gone to the hands of hackers or some people who will use it for some sort of scams. Since KYC is really critical and one bad move it could go wrong and will gonna ruin your life in a blink of an eye, people will avoid passing it and they will just prefer to play on some online casino that doesn't require it because it's really risky to do so. More or less, they are scared that when the Casino is closed, their personal information will be sold on the deep web to be used for some evil actions.
As I understand it, the most effective and easiest way to correct errors from the fact that your documents leaked to the network is to make a new passport (for example, under the pretext of losing the old one). Usually it costs a small fine and some bureaucratic problems, but you will have new documents and the old ones are guaranteed to lose their validity. It is a pity that this method cannot be used regularly (for example, once a year), this will cause huge questions and suspicions, as it seems to me. It will, you might be questioned in the 3rd time unless you have the right reason with documentation about the loss. They are extending the expiration of every document for the purpose of security and other people just don't want to do it annually, they are too busy. ![Roll Eyes](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/rolleyes.gif) I don't like KYC, I actually hate it. Filling up important information is not my forte, it feels like giving away your autobiography. Although it might help to prove the age of each gambler, it is still not a good thing. If we want kids to prevent access in gambling sites we could always just block it in their accounts.
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July 07, 2022, 08:28:32 PM |
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LOL no doubt if the main purpose to make people will be very difficult to withdraw their money. That rule was also forcing people to verify and reveal their identity. I was always considering that kind of casino as a scam casino. There's no guarantee if withdraw will be smooth after you have verified your account through sending your KYC to them. They were making their TOS stricting people to withdraw their money. Less money can be withdrawn from that casino.
People will be made difficult to withdraw their winnings by making strict KYC because that is what suspicious casinos will do. But a trusted casino with a good reputation won't do it because once they do and many of their members complain, the casino can lose out on a huge potential profit. People who play at crypto casinos will probably prefer casinos that don't implement KYC as they don't want to send their documents to the casino for security reasons. Who would of course want a KYC casino? We sure know the risks entailed with it so I don't think there's someone who will happily choose and bet to a casino that will ask KYC. I for one wanted a non-KYC casino but I maintain my deposits little and I prefer not to go big in case they will suddenly freeze it.
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July 07, 2022, 08:42:12 PM |
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I don't like KYC, I actually hate it. Filling up important information is not my forte, it feels like giving away your autobiography. Although it might help to prove the age of each gambler, it is still not a good thing. If we want kids to prevent access in gambling sites we could always just block it in their accounts.
I feel you, providing such information just to gamble or to enjoy your stay during your pastime is not good practice on my personal opinion but there are gamblers who are willing to deal with it especially those big time gamblers who use a huge amount of money and play heavy, they are more into accepting the terms and condition. Though not all gambling sites but those selected that they really trust and believe that it won't mess with them.
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July 07, 2022, 09:15:04 PM |
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I don't like KYC, I actually hate it. Filling up important information is not my forte, it feels like giving away your autobiography. Although it might help to prove the age of each gambler, it is still not a good thing. If we want kids to prevent access in gambling sites we could always just block it in their accounts.
I feel you, providing such information just to gamble or to enjoy your stay during your pastime is not good practice on my personal opinion but there are gamblers who are willing to deal with it especially those big time gamblers who use a huge amount of money and play heavy, they are more into accepting the terms and condition. Though not all gambling sites but those selected that they really trust and believe that it won't mess with them. Wont really be messing up with them but there are scenarios or circumstances that cant really be avoided on which there are leakage with those information which the team or the platform itself doesnt have control. This is one of the most common concern on why people doesnt really like on providing any details in regarding with their informations or identity which is something that we dont really like and it should really be talking with that full anonymity if we do play.For big time players then expect that they are really been required on providing their identity which we know that gambling sites are centralized or regulated which its just normal that they would really be asked for those information but of us small time or peanuts then i dont really see that much of needed.
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July 07, 2022, 09:58:12 PM |
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but there are gamblers who are willing to deal with it especially those big time gamblers who use a huge amount of money and play heavy, they are more into accepting the terms and condition. Since they are putting big money on that particular site, it means they trust the site. Therefore, undergoing KYC should not be a big problem for them as it's just easy to complete it. These big-time gamblers are not dumb to just trust a site with their money easily. These big gamblers' research is beyond average compared to the majority and they are very strict at choosing a site. KYC is not really a problem if there's a time that it will be a mandatory thing to do. We have no choice in the first place if it's become a necessary requirement. Just make sure to just comply with it on a trustworthy site and of course, not with the site that just comes out of nowhere and lacks reviews.
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July 08, 2022, 01:29:19 AM |
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LOL no doubt if the main purpose to make people will be very difficult to withdraw their money. That rule was also forcing people to verify and reveal their identity. I was always considering that kind of casino as a scam casino. There's no guarantee if withdraw will be smooth after you have verified your account through sending your KYC to them. They were making their TOS stricting people to withdraw their money. Less money can be withdrawn from that casino.
People will be made difficult to withdraw their winnings by making strict KYC because that is what suspicious casinos will do. But a trusted casino with a good reputation won't do it because once they do and many of their members complain, the casino can lose out on a huge potential profit. People who play at crypto casinos will probably prefer casinos that don't implement KYC as they don't want to send their documents to the casino for security reasons. That's why i always avoid the place that was forcing its users to verify identity. Forcing identity means that casino didn't wanna play fair. They want money to come but they didn't want money to leave from their platforms. Remember that since the owner hodl your money and you can do nothing for that. People will always prefer for their identity not to be revealed or owned by casino.
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July 08, 2022, 05:40:22 AM |
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but there are gamblers who are willing to deal with it especially those big time gamblers who use a huge amount of money and play heavy, they are more into accepting the terms and condition. Since they are putting big money on that particular site, it means they trust the site. Therefore, undergoing KYC should not be a big problem for them as it's just easy to complete it. These big-time gamblers are not dumb to just trust a site with their money easily. These big gamblers' research is beyond average compared to the majority and they are very strict at choosing a site. KYC is not really a problem if there's a time that it will be a mandatory thing to do. We have no choice in the first place if it's become a necessary requirement. Just make sure to just comply with it on a trustworthy site and of course, not with the site that just comes out of nowhere and lacks reviews. For bigger amounts, that was mandatory and it also the safety of your is their mani concerned asking you to complete it and verify your real identity. Yes, I would agree this is not a problem unless it was a questionable site but because we endure trust and they are, actually, KYC could be easy. Well, I respect those who can provide, that was their choice, and all we have a choice either. But I was expecting this to become mandatory in the near future for security purposes.
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July 08, 2022, 09:17:15 AM |
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Although you can still avoid kyc, but on certain platforms or maybe all gambling platforms when you don't send kyc, there will be limitations such as the maximum bet amount and also about the maximum deposit and withdrawal amount. But indeed, regarding the high and low of money for a bet, then for gamblers who just fill their spare time and for fun it will not be a problem if they are not involved with kyc. But for those who really make gambling for something big, then of course kyc will still be needed for them.
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July 08, 2022, 10:46:03 AM |
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Although you can still avoid kyc, but on certain platforms or maybe all gambling platforms when you don't send kyc, there will be limitations such as the maximum bet amount and also about the maximum deposit and withdrawal amount. But indeed, regarding the high and low of money for a bet, then for gamblers who just fill their spare time and for fun it will not be a problem if they are not involved with kyc. But for those who really make gambling for something big, then of course kyc will still be needed for them.
Mostly those are the level 1 KYC which is most of the time the name of the player only and email for the verification for the every time login and the reset of the passwords, and if you are just a small-time gambler sometimes it didn't require a KYC and most of the player have a large deposit and withdrawal if the platform thinks that it is need to have a withdrawal verification that's the time they will submit fo the new level of verification for the avoidance of the possible abuse of the system for the platform itself.
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July 08, 2022, 11:21:43 AM |
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Yes thats what suspicious casino will do, but at the end they will say they are just security conscious that's why they implemented strict kyc. After the kyc have been implemented, they will make it strick so that most people won't be able to meet up with their kyc requirements, which at the end they won't be able to make withdrawal from the casino site and the money belongs to the site. Also I won't really recommend anybody to use any casino site with kyc, because anything can happen to your data.
If the casino wants to do that, it's best to explain up front by putting it on the rules page so that people who read the rules can know what they should and shouldn't do when gambling at that casino. The casino must be transparent to its members so as not to arouse suspicion. That's why we must be careful in choosing a casino site, especially one that uses kyc because we don't know what they can do with our data. Who would of course want a KYC casino? We sure know the risks entailed with it so I don't think there's someone who will happily choose and bet to a casino that will ask KYC. I for one wanted a non-KYC casino but I maintain my deposits little and I prefer not to go big in case they will suddenly freeze it.
Yes, there must be people who will verify at a casino that implements kyc, especially if those people can find a trusted casino that can make them feel safe playing at that casino. I also still use non-kyc casinos or if they implemented kyc they would have limits for small gamblers like me so I don't have to do kyc. That's why i always avoid the place that was forcing its users to verify identity. Forcing identity means that casino didn't wanna play fair. They want money to come but they didn't want money to leave from their platforms. Remember that since the owner hodl your money and you can do nothing for that. People will always prefer for their identity not to be revealed or owned by casino.
For trusted casinos, they will not force their will on their members because the casino knows if they keep doing that, maybe their members will move to another casino. We also have the option to play at the other casino we want so if the casino wants kyc, we can look for other casinos.
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July 08, 2022, 01:03:36 PM |
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but there are gamblers who are willing to deal with it especially those big time gamblers who use a huge amount of money and play heavy, they are more into accepting the terms and condition. Since they are putting big money on that particular site, it means they trust the site. Therefore, undergoing KYC should not be a big problem for them as it's just easy to complete it. These big-time gamblers are not dumb to just trust a site with their money easily. These big gamblers' research is beyond average compared to the majority and they are very strict at choosing a site. KYC is not really a problem if there's a time that it will be a mandatory thing to do. We have no choice in the first place if it's become a necessary requirement. Just make sure to just comply with it on a trustworthy site and of course, not with the site that just comes out of nowhere and lacks reviews. And because of these big-time gamblers, the trusted platforms that they are playing are also obliged to keep their system safe and updated so that the details of their clients won't leak if there are some threats that could put their license in the line and worse, these big-time gamblers will be forced to sue the casino and leave them with more problems.
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July 08, 2022, 01:08:54 PM |
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but there are gamblers who are willing to deal with it especially those big time gamblers who use a huge amount of money and play heavy, they are more into accepting the terms and condition. Since they are putting big money on that particular site, it means they trust the site. Therefore, undergoing KYC should not be a big problem for them as it's just easy to complete it. These big-time gamblers are not dumb to just trust a site with their money easily. These big gamblers' research is beyond average compared to the majority and they are very strict at choosing a site. KYC is not really a problem if there's a time that it will be a mandatory thing to do. We have no choice in the first place if it's become a necessary requirement. Just make sure to just comply with it on a trustworthy site and of course, not with the site that just comes out of nowhere and lacks reviews. And because of these big-time gamblers, the trusted platforms that they are playing are also obliged to keep their system safe and updated so that the details of their clients won't leak if there are some threats that could put their license in the line and worse, these big-time gamblers will be forced to sue the casino and leave them with more problems. Definitely, that would happen because it's a serious offense and a casino can be sued for that, however, if the information was leak unintentionally like their system is hacked, then we cannot go after them and we have to accept the fact that our information can be used to whatever purpose the hacker will use, that's the risk.
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July 08, 2022, 04:20:24 PM |
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That's why we must be careful in choosing a casino site, especially one that uses kyc because we don't know what they can do with our data.
Exactly. And the answer for question "How to choose proper casino?" is easy: Choose those who has EU/USA license. Not of grey offshore, not of some third world countries. No. EU or USA - in this case you will be sure that casino not cheating and that it will not sell your data to some shady hackers.
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July 08, 2022, 04:26:35 PM |
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That's why we must be careful in choosing a casino site, especially one that uses kyc because we don't know what they can do with our data.
Exactly. And the answer for question "How to choose proper casino?" is easy: Choose those who has EU/USA license. Not of grey offshore, not of some third world countries. No. EU or USA - in this case you will be sure that casino not cheating and that it will not sell your data to some shady hackers. This got me thinking, I've only had one KYC done on a gambling platform as I am gambling on that website on a regular basis however I haven't checked their licence yet. Could you please clarify more information on checking a proper casino? Also, Can I know more why having a EU/USA guarantees that the casino will not cheat or sell your data to anyone? Thanks!
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July 08, 2022, 05:43:17 PM |
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It's been observed that gamblers prefer to play on casino which do not enforce KYC. Well, let's discuss what are the main reasons that they do not want to show their identity and gamble anonymously.
They don't trust the casino as the casino might misuse the kyc documents or the gamblers want to gamble without telling anyone that they are the gamblers, gambling is illegal in their region or religion and they want to hide their identity or there could be any other solid reason?
There are many reasons for this but the most simple is that people have a right to retain some privacy, this is something that is being forgotten as now most people behave in a way that decades before could have been classified as exhibitionist by uploading all kind of images of themselves on the Internet for strangers to watch. But there are many people which do not like this trend and as such they are way more private and prefer not to reveal information about themselves unless it is necessary, and we think that sending our personal information to a casino is completely unnecessary.
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July 08, 2022, 05:49:05 PM |
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As I understand it, the most effective and easiest way to correct errors from the fact that your documents leaked to the network is to make a new passport (for example, under the pretext of losing the old one). Usually it costs a small fine and some bureaucratic problems, but you will have new documents and the old ones are guaranteed to lose their validity. It is a pity that this method cannot be used regularly (for example, once a year), this will cause huge questions and suspicions, as it seems to me.
It will, you might be questioned in the 3rd time unless you have the right reason with documentation about the loss. They are extending the expiration of every document for the purpose of security and other people just don't want to do it annually, they are too busy. ![Roll Eyes](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/rolleyes.gif) I don't like KYC, I actually hate it. Filling up important information is not my forte, it feels like giving away your autobiography. Although it might help to prove the age of each gambler, it is still not a good thing. If we want kids to prevent access in gambling sites we could always just block it in their accounts. By the way, a good way out (if you have a lot of registrations here and there) is to make a KYC for a passport for trips abroad. In my country, such passports can be made with a validity period of 3 or 10 years. it turns out that it is absolutely legal to change the main document for the KYC once every three years. If the regulation is really tough, then I will have to act in this way.
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July 08, 2022, 05:51:11 PM |
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That's why we must be careful in choosing a casino site, especially one that uses kyc because we don't know what they can do with our data.
Exactly. And the answer for question "How to choose proper casino?" is easy: Choose those who has EU/USA license. Not of grey offshore, not of some third world countries. No. EU or USA - in this case you will be sure that casino not cheating and that it will not sell your data to some shady hackers. This got me thinking, I've only had one KYC done on a gambling platform as I am gambling on that website on a regular basis however I haven't checked their licence yet. Could you please clarify more information on checking a proper casino? Also, Can I know more why having a EU/USA guarantees that the casino will not cheat or sell your data to anyone? Thanks! There's no assurance when it comes on handling out those customer information whether its a USA/EU it would really be still prone to risk for those information to leak out due to some hack or some inside exploit or something which there's no assurance or 100% guaranteed that those information wouldnt leak out sooner or later but somewhat entrusting or having that believe on to those things will not really be a bad idea. Also complying out KYC is someones choice and you havent been forced considering that we do have lots of options or choices in the market then we could always opt in on making use of platforms or services which arent really requiring for some verification.About licensed casinos then it is really much preferred but not all trusted ones are licensed so its situational.
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July 08, 2022, 09:24:59 PM |
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That's why we must be careful in choosing a casino site, especially one that uses kyc because we don't know what they can do with our data.
Exactly. And the answer for question "How to choose proper casino?" is easy: Choose those who has EU/USA license. Not of grey offshore, not of some third world countries. No. EU or USA - in this case you will be sure that casino not cheating and that it will not sell your data to some shady hackers. This got me thinking, I've only had one KYC done on a gambling platform as I am gambling on that website on a regular basis however I haven't checked their licence yet. Could you please clarify more information on checking a proper casino? Also, Can I know more why having a EU/USA guarantees that the casino will not cheat or sell your data to anyone? Thanks! Well, it's not really a kind of guarantee that these casino that had EU or USA license won't get hacked. But the risk is minimized because we can be sure that they keep on investing on their system to get it risk-free and the hacker can't go through the walls as this is their way just to keep their license safe too. How could you check the sites license? You can check that one on the internet, almost everything will be laid on you.
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