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I have had experience dealing with crypto experts who provide signals with lots of indicators, strategies and analysis and i came to discover no one is a master of the market. Some analysis can go with the trend some against the trend, Some might profit on a long term, some on a short term while others only project loses.

With the rate at which speculation of price keeps getting different views as the day goes by i think it will be wise if everyone who owns, buys, hodl and trade bitcoin learn about chart interpretations and fundamental analysis impact on Bitcoin. The fact here is volatility has come to stay and as such knowing how to go about your analysis should be a necessity for Bitcoin holders.

If you're getting signals from channels on places like Discord or telegram too, it might be possible to look at how the person giving the signals actually works them out. A lot of the good ones seem to have patterns that can be seen on the 4h or daily chart and normally pick the most volatile coins - it's not the worst supplemental to working it out as long as you use enough data points from them (and be aware they might use other timeframes - even non standard ones - and indicators to come up with their strategies so it's not perfect).

Timeframe is one of the common things that people do ignore or mistakenly able to check.Its not bad to look out on others speculations and analysis.A good trader would definitely be finding out
some resources for him to at least justify on what he had made out for himself.Looking on other angle might be one of the strategy to make up some confirmation towards his possible trades.
Its true that every word that comes out into this space would really be 100% speculation.Fuck off into those people who had said about 100% winning trading strategy since it doesnt
exist on the first place.Nothing is perfect and knowing trading would involved a never ending trial and error.

All of these “signals” are just daytraders working as a hive mind to recreate the patterns they learned. In my opinion, you’re better off ignoring the noise and following the 4-year Bitcoin cycle. Try to grow your holdings with activity outside of trading and sell when the amount you’ve stacked can change your life. Trading signals work until they don’t, and with a lot of traders that “don’t” wipes them out.

I guess it's a hard lesson for everyone, specially for newbies are bought that idea that there are so called experts in this market who can predict the price movement with their technical analysis. Maybe they can hit it though, but most of the time, it's a miss, just saying


We are not totally against technical indicators because it can help us to some extend. But we should have our own interpretation and only we hold it. So if it fails then nobody will blame us, and at least we will learn from our mistakes.

We can't totally rely on those Signals, you can just use it as your guide but never rely to those signals.
Some pages are sharing their signals as effective analysis just to attract subscribers since for sure most of them have their own signal group which requires them to pay some fees just to be accepted on that group. I'm still on a stage of learning how to properly trade, this may take some time but I know this is more worth it.

Of course not, relying entirely on other people's signals is not recommended. You have to be very wise to invest your money in crypto assets, those signals can help but in the end only you will bear the consequences.

I have no experience of receiving these trading signals either on telegram or in other trading groups, but some people have also managed to make a profit while being a member of the group. Especially about altcoin, I prefer to avoid them instead of directly investing for some capital. So in the end, you can trust these trading signals but you have to have something good to keep you going wisely.

This advice is for traders, not for holders. Holders follow a long pattern that can easily be know if not following charts, but holders too can follow charts using a long range of candles like weekly or monthly candles, but holders are not more moved by the candle stick pattern and indicators, but believe more about bull and bear market which can easily be known from the present price of bitcoin and the present all-time-high. This would determine whether to hold or not.

Reminds me of popular crowd wisdom projects that came up around the last ATH, convinced that hive mind projections were more accurate over the long term, forgetting also that in rallies, almost every pick is likely to rake in profits, forgetting that the hive is just a lot of traders following only a handful.

Major funds all reporting profits and losses at the same time, at the same periods also prove that experts and career traders can't really trade outside the noise.

So yeah. Longer term holds understanding that you will be in the red most of the time in crypto, the better way to go. So long as halving patterns hold, anyway.

Volatility is in the nature of bitcoin and the whole crypto market in itself. That's why anyone who wants to deal with the market on a daily basis or most time has to learn how to read charts and learn the skill of analysis.
But if someone just want to remain as a holder and accumulate everytime the market is in dip, then that's the typical way of being an investor without the hassle of learning those except fundamental analysis.

And it was confusing...
Indeed, many people are self-claimed experts and they are giving signals to those who wanted it. I don't know what is their basis for trusting someone who does this as for me, they are just like us which are also relying on the price chart and of course, the capability to speculate the market. If we are about to spend the market and trying hard to analyze it, I believe we can do even better with these experts.

I believe there are some experts who really exist but it was different in crypto where it is absolutely unpredictable, unlike the others.

Every investment is a speculation though and from that only the people are making money, for the fact they say experience, analysis, knowledge,etc but in reality they all are trying to guess the movement at every moment so they can make money. As an individual we should not get distracted by so called signals coming from others because its simply the manipulation is coming up and one who got mich influence will get more benefits.

The more simple the analyis the more reliable it can be, I dont like the signal I dont have a good personal feel for.   Very simple take to me would be to note off the series of highest price, take week, month or whatever but whats the highest price in that period and what is the lowest.  Then we simply say is the series rising or falling in those peaks and lows.
   It might be contradictory or it can add some clarity ditto all these fancy measures and readings.   RIght now I think its quite clear, we got highs descending (every month) and if this latest October pricing tops out at 20k not even 21k this is once again lower; its a negative trend we have to note that bias.   Support can be overwhelmed or heavily challenged if we continue like this, theres no space left to manoeuvre.

The analysis made either based on technical or fundamental analysis is ultimately just a prediction. That's not entirely true so it would make a lot of people speculate about it. Likewise with trading signals, so in the end only predictions from analysis will support trading and investment activities.

The market will recover, that's certainly to be expected. But I don't think this advice will suit everyone especially if they don't do analysis, so it shouldn't be for financial advice.

This is another speculation or prediction ;D It is not a fact to conclude because it is not happening immediately that a bear is over that the bull get price to sky. This can take some time before the bull take over. The time for this to happen is important so being careful and not to enter in rush is better. I only can say after halving is when the bull start to happen.

For emphasis, what you said there also is a speculation 🤔. The bottom line is that this industry is speculative in nature and that's why some people erroneously say it's akin to gambling (it's not, actually). I guess the speculative nature stems from the fact that nobody knows tomorrow. The crypto industry is based on what happens in the future/tomorrow, we only can speculate on where price will be going. No one is certain what happens next. If anyone knew of certitude where price will be headed to that person will be made for life. Again, due to the uncertainty in this speculative industry, investors are warned ahead to only invest what they can afford to lose.

And this is why following those signals groups is not recommended, even if the person behind the group is not looking to scam you or charge you money for the signals he is giving, at the end the one that needs to endure the potential losses will be you, and are you willing to suffer huge losses to your capital to the point it could affect your future just because a stranger on the Internet told you it was a good idea to buy now? Because I know I will never take a risk like that.

Look if somebody knows how to actually make money in this market and they have some edge, they aren't going to give you this info for free or for $50/month. Why would they when you got up to 100x leverage these days. Doesn't make sense to sell these signals instead of profitting off themselves.

This is how so many people get tricked and they end up losing all their money plus the fees they paid to join these paid groups. They are all scams. But when you are new and instead of guessing what to buy or sell, you need to learn somehow. Most people rather copy peoples trades rather than learn and trade on their own.

Predictions, trading analysis and signal are all just a speculation and it’s not a guaranteed analysis so better not to expect that much, just hope that the market will go in favor of your analysis. It’s also good to have a target price to sell and cut loss price, this can save your money if the market goes against your analysis. Speculation will always be here, at any market trends so if you see opportunity that can make you profitable, grab it and repeat the good strategy.

On a speculative market or unpredictable market then it would really be just these analysis would really be turning out to be pure speculation.This is why it would really be ideal that you shouldnt really make yourself

believe that there are people who do make out 100% precise predictions because it cant really be just possible.Nothing beats out if you do make your own analysis rather than on seeing or relying into others analysis.

Whenever others analysis gone wrong then it would really be that regretful or do give out that kind of feeling that you shouldnt have done that on the first place.
Well, charge to experience which these learnings do usually come from.You would really soon realize on what must be done.

I tend to agree with this and as matter of fact, the market is unpredictable so all of these are 100% pure speculations.
That's why I always discourage newbies who seek trading signals, instead of looking for a good one they will have their own research.  Because those are also traders who speculate the market the advantage is they've possibly more knowledgeable than you.

There's no one beat if you're a long-term holder and aim for a perfect price to cut your profit.

Any signal of course we can make a technique or method for speculating, this is natural because investment conditions are strongly influenced by external factors, for example if there is an official legalization of bitcoin in a country it will make investors immediately buy bitcoin because great opportunities will rise.

I want give you a little Clue, signal of cryptocurrency never be hundred percent (%100) sure, so it's not something you will be dependable because analysis is been given or present to the public because of the way of understanding the facts and read and interpret the chart of cryptocurrency movement. So therefore it's not reliable or trustworthy to any crypto signal as a certain. The interpretation of two crypto signal's can be differs.

I think less speculation if you want to invest. So that we are not disappointed in the face of a bear market. I think the current market conditions many people are disappointed, because their assets are delayed at the top of the order. But if we intend to invest, of course we do not think the order is at the peak will not worry us, we will hold it. Because the Bitcoin market will again get the best price. If not this year, then next year, or next year again. No need to panic, no need for them to be disappointed in themselves. It's crypto, there will be a time when dreams come true.

Take crypto signals at your own risk. There are all the kinds of signals on the market, pointing to every possible and imaginable directions and it will be up to you to pick the right one among so many. How can we be right and sure when choosing one signal, then? I fear it is not possible, so we have to risk anyway. What we can do in order to minimize the risks is to pick long term predictions instead of relying on signals which promise short term returns.

Im never a fan of crypto signals or whatsoever Guru or mentors that we do have in the market and calling themselves profitable or professionals.They wont really be asking out some followers and asking for some

sub fees if they are profitable in the first place.This is the main logic and common sense i do have in mind is that all of us are speculators and there's no such thing about 100% precision in towards trading
and speculating on where prices would be going.

Its better to be dependent on your own trading style and methods which you would be the ones who would be making those analysis of yours
and not depending on others.

I agree with you,  Carry out your personal research or before investing or holding in the community will really help you in this bearish season,  because many traders missed it some years ago that made them to learned their lesson never to follow other traders prediction than to use their own strategies. I think, those that will exercise patience with this current market situation will have something massive to achieve in the future, because the bearish season is coming to an end soon to allow the holders to smile again. I believe, many traders will get it right this time because they are fully ready to use their own analysis to get it right.

I guess it depends on how one uses Crypto. If someone is new and wants to invest as little as possible, maybe some advice and hints from some expert traders should also be considered as Crypto is for true anonymity, starting with market cap and so on.

Technical analysis and how to apply it, I'm a fan of both using the lagging indicator method and using the fast stochastic oscillator to enter and exit positions. That is, an indicator that will help you open positions at the beginning of the trend and close them when the price returns to its average.

People just too easy fall in the cheap tricks.

Those who selling signals for a couple bucks and telling you the 'too good to be true' story .. are the one who sell nothing but a random or baseless prediction.
Those who selling it for an expensive one , probably having a thorough / deep research / knowledge , yet it won't guarantee you anything but an occasional true prediction as well as an occasional wrong prediction which means ... the market will always unpredictable , making profit not just through prediction but the strategy on how you mange the profit and loss into a long term profit.

It is definitely a very risky thing to trade based on signals because the market is unexpected and that means you can't technically get the situation handled by just checking the singals, they will not tell you which will do better and which will do worse.

There is no scenario where crypto will be doing something that would be predictable enough that someone could give dozens even hundreds of people signals to take position before it happens. At the end of the day crypto is volatile, and you should buy trying to buy low and sell high, that’s the only piece of advice that would work for you, and wait for bitcoin to crash (like now) and buy, and then wait for the bull run and sell.

Every signal is a speculation but not a baseless speculation. This is a speculation according to the present chart movement compared to how the chart have moved previously. Indeed signals fail, but good signals don't fall, they only deviate to a certain degree.
The whole crypto market is full of speculations, nothing is sure, we keep speculating. That is just the nature of the industry.

Then the challenge lies on those who depend on these calculated and baseless speculations to earn a living (traders), the long term investors are free from some of the effects of these speculations.

Maybe they are truly a master in terms of their long term experience in this market where they already know every terms and strategies but master where they never fail to profit is kinda impossible. After all they are still a normal human, not a god or something which has a super powers to detect the price movement of the coin and make a trade according to it.

This is why it's better to learn on your own so that you won't be disappointed when the one that you are following failed you. At least when you fail in your own, it's more easy to accept. Cryptocurrencies are a speculative assets so you are right with what you have said in your title.

And besides, we can't change how it looks like. All of the things it appears in our mind that will happen in the future or even today are purely speculative but because of our experience, we consider it as close to perfection. However, people are still happy doing this and it is somewhat a sort of motivation to them. it was been a practice by now, even a newbie can make their own. That is why I don't really trust signal groups as they are also like us who does speculations and sometimes baseless speculations.

Indeed it is speculation, but if they can explain well why they got the position, I don't think it is speculation without reason. And for people who get that signal, you should be more careful because we don't know whether the signal will come true or if it's just an ordinary signal telling us to buy or sell it. Everything will come back to you, and you should be able to analyze it further to find additional information that may be useful in making a decision. So if you get a signal, try to research further to get a good position to buy or sell.

It will still be speculation unless it already proves to be right or when that signal happens. So we will need to understand why they came up with in that signal, some backup details pr information on how they manage to tell that that price will pump or be at that position. We should still do our research and not rely alone on signals since even the paid signals we can get from Telegram or other services didn't give profit.

It is just common sense but for some reason many people never think about this, information about the market is probably one of the most valuable pieces of information you can get, if you have a decent strategy to profit from the markets then the sky is the limit for a person like that, even if they started with an amount of money that was really small, given enough time they will be able to make a fortune, so such a small amount of money is simply never going to be enough to get good information about the future movements of the market.

You should make on your own and never ever make yourself get blinded into those people who do claim that they had high winning rate or profitability towards their analysis.It is really just a shit thing to believe on.
Every signal is indeed an speculation and no one could really able to tell on what would gonna happen into this market.Even to those professional or veterans doesnt really guarantee that they could give out
precise predictions.Its better to rely with your own analysis and findings rather than on making yourself rely into other signal which other people been making.
Some do even asking out for some fee or payment.

I think it requires a bit of expertise to do that but it is better to study and learn and be better compared to just not doing it at all or taking information from other people. I am not going to listen to what some influencer who got paid to promote a project says, but if I do not know how to pick a coin at the right time, it's still better not to trade at all and not make any profits at all, instead of checking what those people say.

Study, there are a lot of resources available, and after you study and learn then you can start to trade and that way you would be making a good profit eventually all thanks to what you have achieved yourself. This is not a theoretical one but what I learned and practicing in my real life!

I very rarely trust any signals if I want to trade or invest in the short term. Because the signal is made by someone based on his experience or based on advice from other people too, so I think there is no need to fully rely on advice about signals from other people because that person will not bear the loss you experience.

All of that is about the decision of each person who wants to believe in certain signals because with certainty it is also not necessarily one hundred percent correct, so it still requires more understanding before believing in signals that are told by others. Especially now that there are so many signal groups with a large number of members, and because those in the group are people we don't know, so I don't think you have to immediately believe the signals given by them will not be so bad for you personally

If it's proven true, it's not speculation but has happened ;D

I wouldn't expect that signal if it came from a group on Telegram, but it's possible I'll research further to find out why they can get it or find out if the price will go down within an hour after this up. And if I feel unsure about it all, I'd better hang on and do nothing because if I keep pushing it, I can get into trouble later. Yes, we can only do research and analysis to find the right time to trade.

I'd say not everyone though, there are good traders who give free signal but that's it, you have to take it from there. Nevertheless, base on my experience, I would rather learn it myself than to rely on someone else, just saying.


It's not an exact science, it's just the probability that it might hit this certain price based on the previous historical logs. So it's up to you whether to believed it yourself. But it's like being the norm traditional financial market. The problem is that crypto is very volatile so this kind of signal might be invalidated very quick.

What you say is true to my experience during crypto investing and trading, because it is not a good thing to rely on the opinions of others
to make decisions. There are so many trading groups that I joined when I first got to know the crypto world, ranging from free group trading
to paid ones, neither one satisfies me. All trading groups that I joined only made me lose a lot of money, learn from my experience, I began to
realize that group trading was created only to make the owner of the trading group gain personal profit. Because if they do have an accurate signal,
it's impossible for them to share it with others.

After the bad incident I experienced by following a lot of trading groups, I finally realized that we should be able to do our own research and analysis,
because after all the results of our own research and analysis are much more reliable than the signals given by others. So instead of spending
money trying to trade from the signals we get from group trading, it's better to use our money to pay for trading courses that can teach us how to do
the right analysis. Because by having good research and analysis skills, we can not only generate profits, but our abilities will also continue to grow.

Even myself wont really be that easy to trust on any signals been provided or any analysis that been shown off publicly.I do bare up in mind that every signal is just still speculation.
Although there are really differences into those whom had created that one, either a newbie trader or a professional one.You could definitely able to tell if you do have that experience
but if not the its likely you would really be that believing easily believe into these things and would follow and make out decisions basing into that.
Its up to you whether you would really be going along or would really be following on what you had analyzed on your own.

There is no perfect analysis however if you see their analysis is really good, properly backed up with valid reasonings, and does make sense to believe, that's what I called having a master knowledge of analyzing market behavior.

Obviously, don't expect that they will always predict accurately the market.

What they are doing is speculating about the possible things that will happen and making it a reference for their next move.

Not unless we are talking about "experts" here that provide signals without explanation and ask for subscriptions, just ignore these people.

Speculations are guesses. Informed or simply blind guesses, they are probably all the same. If a speculation on Bitcoin's price is based on technical analyses on charts, it may or may not happen. If a speculation is fundamental, it may or may not happen just the same. If a guess is just based on gut feeling, it may or may not happen also. At the end of the day, all of them are guesses. And as guesses, they are all equal. So I'd rather just hodl my Bitcoin and forget about those inaccurate predictions.

You may be correct to say that speculations are guesses, but you are absolutely not correct to say that both informed and basesless speculations are same. It therefore means that you are undermining the power of analysis, be it technical or fundamental.
If I wake from sleep tomorrow and decides to buy Bitcoin hoping that bitcoin will hit 50,000 dollars by February, 2023.
It is a wishful thinking which could also come to pass. But if compared to someone that has monitored the graph and the chart patterns, considered the information in the media and the financials new and makes an informed speculation, you will discover that my qishful thinking could be a total dumb.

Buying low and selling high is not a luck, it is a skill and someone that has the skill will do better than a layman.

I'm assuming that speculations are reasonable. I'm definitely not referring to speculations that are so ridiculous that they are absurd. Perhaps I did use the wrong words to state my point, but when I said blind guesses for example, I definitely do not mean that somebody would buy today because he feels like the price would rise to $100,000 tomorrow or sell everything today because the price would be zero when he wakes up. I do not mean that. I mean that's not even worth talking about.

When he made a blind guess, he would have a hard time seeing the price changes all the time and only panic would he feel.
But many people still make blind guesses, especially those who rely on signals from other people.
They tend not to survive when the market situation is truly unpredictable as it is today and will not benefit from trading.
But if anyone could do it, it would be because he had luck and it would look like he was playing a gamble.

Yes, that's right, don't let us miss the signal given by Elon Musk,
because Elon Musk has been proven correct and even a tweet about $20000 the market responded well,
even though the price of Bitcoin last night was also a dump and resulted in a dump of altcoins,
but in the end it came back above $19 k may retest to $20k, hopefully it will and breakout.

responding each signals will only hurt your investments and the market, why not forget about the negative and just follow the positive one?
with these surely we will be certain about the capacity of our mindset to win against FUD and market depression .

In past ,I use to be affected of each signals I get from groups but now? i deleted all of those and i only trust this forum to learn and understand the market sentiment.

I am not so sure I agree, it is true that when a person with a lot of influence like Elon makes a statement or movement then the markets tend to move with him, but this is not always the case and the particular influence of Elon has been decreasing for some time among the enthusiast of this market, so it is important to take with a grain of salt whatever is said by influencers like him as we must never forget that Elon only cares about his own well being and he is not above manipulating the markets for his own convenience.

Why people do always mind off that whenever these popular or known people would be making out some tweets which it do likes that they dont have the rights on doing so? Everyone does have their own freedom of

speech or something in related.It is really just people around do really make out those kind of reactions and impressions that it might really be that a normal word or something that there's a meaning inside
and some do even thinks or impressed as those words to be manipulative.

Well, you cant blame out people on thinking up on that way considering on how many times we've been deceived not only by Elon but also in other personalities as well.

fundamental and technical analysis that's the most important especially if you are holder because everytime you need to check the situation if its ok or not and when is the right time to sell and to buy.  It's very essential tbh and without such knowledge you cannot take advantage the market and there's no way you will become successful at the end.

Everything around in crypto when it talks about prices for the incoming are speculations, that was the reality. However, people are having fun with it and aside from that, this is a way also to make them more particular about the trend and this helps them understand the behavior of the market. There is nothing we can do in a volatile market like this but just draw conclusions based on the market movement. That is why TA and FA are very important when investing for this will guide us in choosing the best project to invest, not like a guessing situation.

I do agree that there are certain people like Elon or CZ that has some sort of power over the markets and that's understandable, they are really famous. But that doesn't mean that we should be doing it, it just means that we are doing it nonetheless when we shouldn't. They shouldn't dictate where our money should go, it shouldn't respond well or badly just because they tweeted something.

However, with someone that has tens of millions of followers on twitter, I would prefer this Elon who likes crypto, over someone who dislikes it. Elon can't give you any signals, he could just tweet about it, and people would react to his tweets and that's the deal.

And consider also those people who are die-hard for some people who are just fans of giving random signals which we already know that they are pure speculations.
We cannot blame them because sure they are lured by some people especially some celebrities or popular persons on the internet especially social media.
Verifying and identifying by ourselves like using technical analysis and fundamental analysis will help us to not rely on some signals, we will not blame other people on it.

Cryptocurrencies like roller coaster certainly have a down and down trend with high grades, I have traded on forex and very small price fluctuations, if there is 1% fluctuations, this is a surprising thing, in contrast to cryptocurrencies, up or down the price of 10% Usually happens.

+1 mate, and besides how can this be very popular if this is not about speculative ? this is why crypto become attractive because of its nature.
well, but never spend any amount just to have a signal because this is complete speculative and never to be accurate so there is no way we need to spend for this.
but the return compared to forex? isn't crypto is still more higher than that platform.

To make a decision, of course we need a signal, if the signal in the market looks positive then the opportunity to buy more, so it is common when we see any signal then it can be the first step for speculation.

And I do not understand why some people are mad about it, after all our lives are full of mistaken predictions and we take many mistaken actions because of them, for example if the weather report forecast that it is going to rain you take your umbrella with you, but if it does not rain then you brought your umbrella over nothing, but still it was a good idea to bring it just in case you needed it, and something similar happens with the predictions we make about the market, they are not completely reliable but it is better to have them than to not have them.

No, we don't.

You don't need a signal to know you want to buy bitcoin. Fundamentals tell you all about that.
You don't need some wannabe oracle to tell you what you should do with your money. Don't trust these people, trust the technology that you're investing in!


Is there really such a title? I've been investing since 2014 and I'd never call myself a crypto expert.

There no such thing about precise things and this is why speculation and prediction is something we do make.Yes, its true that even in tomorrows weather cant be 100% predicted.
You are right that people do really get mad or even blame out whenever these predictions turns out to be wrong or didnt happen and forgot that at least we had really been prepared.
Every signal is indeed speculation and this is why its never been suggested that you would be relying on others suggestions and tips considering that all of them are speculative.
This is which people should really be needing on having those analysis that made by ours.

I don't think that the four years circle in cryptocurrency investment do exist again, because some times the market of cryptocurrency just rise and also Fall because of the market demand, what i noticed in cryptocurrency market is that the market demand, so in the aspect of holding a coin for long periods and whenever their is positive in cryptosphere and you sell, it's another strategies and another scenario concerning cryptocurrency investment.

I spent years to explain this to my fellow friends and relatives here. They just join random telegram groups that they happened to see around twitter. They say it gives signals to buy specific coins to make money together. I always told people its mainly speculation and people use naive investors to make money through literally any coin. But people still follow this so called fortune tellers and im really bored with explaining it.

The signals from the telegram groups are no longer predictions but the signals in them are price manipulation by the group owners. To attract naive investors, they will use bots to find out which tokens have grown, then they start giving signals but most people won't buy in time because the price of those tokens has gone up. After a few such times, the investor will regret thinking that too many opportunities have been missed. At this point, the group owner will contact the developer of the shitcoins and buy a large amount of tokens at a cheap price. Then they start giving signals of that shitcoin to naive investors, when investors buy, it is also when the group owners and project developers silently sell all those tokens to investors. This is the common form of signal groups.

Why need to let them lose when we can make a action to help them prevent this from happening? you are so cruel when you can give them advices but you denied that instead let them decide for themselves .

Signals are truly tricky and not trust worthy at all , but there are some paid signals(elite at least) that brings best result .

though i am not advising anyone from dealing with this kind if you love your money , search for your own and study.

All of them are speculations. No one can predict the market accurately. Anyone that claims that they signals are accurate, are most likely lying and trying to sell you something. Happens a lot in those "paid signal" groups. They give free obvious signals first, they build trust, and then they sell you "premium signals". All those signals that they give you are already available publicly. This is just another form of scamming. And then there are signal groups that pump and dump shitcoins. Join them and you will end up being a victim!

All the predictions created even by professional Technical Analysts are just speculation.  They just lay out the graph, speculate on where to put the indicators, and do the formula.  There is no one who can predict the future.


True, we need knowledge about Technical Analysis and Fundamental Analysis and most important how to synergize the two kinds of analysis.


It is wrong to ignore advice, but it is more wrong to not verify them.  As a learning process, we should be able to consider suggestions and advice, it can help us grow as a trader but we shouldn't follow it without verifying and analyzing the suggestions.  Following the suggestion blindly can cost us our trading capital.

Speculation about signals for market predictions is only a small help when someone starts to lose their way in the market, but it does not have to be completely trusted because those who make speculative signals are also humans who will not know how the market will continue in the future, so don't be surprised when someone who has believe in any signal, but still lose. And it is a proof that the signal can not always be true and still possible to be wrong.

I think I have managed to understand what you meant after reading to your comment the second time. What you are actually implying is that no matter how excellent a speculation appears to be, it is still a speculation because it might also not happe. Speculations are speculations as their names implie and not facts. For example the speculation of Bitcoin hitting $100000 which failed, mamy people's hope were dashed to mud due to the high expectations and acclaimed accurate speculation.

I can feel the sentiment on that mate , But not everyone will cross our paths , maybe advising is still good but with complete teaching on how they must deal from advises and opinions.

there are always good way to treat others but I respect that opinion as being experienced? you learn the  hard way.

But if they just trust the signal without any analysis, it will only cost them more because there is no clue or further information about how it is moving. The signals given by the telegram group may have happened but it's all still speculation and we don't know where they got the numbers to enter the market. This is where the importance of seeking additional information and conducting a deeper analysis so that we will know the real state of the market and can act on the situation.

Every signal is a speculation, but in trading the accuracy of people's speculation differs and is not the same. There are usually lots of speculations, but a few of those speculations turn out to be correct. The accuracy of your speculation will depend on the level of experience and knowledge you have about the market, that is why some people depend on market speculators that send them signals even to extent of paying them for it, because they recognize that they have more knowledge and experience about the market, so there is a higher chance of accuracy.

Do you know that some people give wrong signals, so before you will be depend on signal of a particular site that means it has been useful before, so sometimes instead of using signal that you don't trust, try to learn how to read or interpret the movement of candle sticks, because i noticed that signal fails and someone can't depend on some of the signal platforms or website.

For those who are used to trading, they will understand any signal, some important issues this week are Elon Musk's twitter has been bought and made Doge skyrocket, when altcoins skyrocket it will have a positive impact, namely the price of bitcoin can return to $20k, because it's been almost a month the price was below $20k and after the news made the price rise again.

It seems true that we should wait for a flare-up of the issues that are developing, as conditions are currently volatile regarding Binance and FTX and the most one can do is buy, especially when the market is experiencing a sharp decline. Frankly, there is no right signal in the investment formula, we can only make predictions about a few possibilities that will happen.

The effect of the current market crash is not only because of the war between the two exchanges, but also because of other things such as the economy that is still less stable around the world which makes big investors reluctant to buy more Bitcoin and other cryptocurrencies to stock at this time. But I'm sure that they will soon make a purchase and take advantage of the market opportunities in this downturn because improvement in market conditions is still very likely to occur this year.

Try to name one of the several possibilities that will happen now? Because I only think that market improvement will still be very possible and that is apart from the issue of war between the two exchanges which is being discussed through several media. And I also see that some people are still panicking at this time when they see the market conditions are getting worse

If you wait right now, then you are going to end up losing money. I have to say that it is not going to be that much of an ease and you should not be going into this thinking you could make a profit but you could at least have a long term holding.

Right now is the perfect time to get in, the price is as low as it could get and that means we should not be expecting the price to crash any further down, doesn't mean it will go up neither, but it will definitely go up eventually, if not today. That is why buying at this price, instead of waiting is the right call. Maybe there will be some more fall? I do not know but how much more could there really be, this seems like a good bottom.

We can speculate on the price trend and yes, speculations are sometimes right about it. But, some people are not contented enough with that as they wanted to be always right and even dictate that market price if possible.
If we can see a lot of signal groups roaming around trying to sell their signals to newbies pretending that their signals are correct and really working. Do we need to believe in this? No, because we know that signals are just speculations and they are talking about the price which is somewhat hard to project it.

Traders who understand the market situation certainly see the current situation is the best opportunity to buy, I'm sure the market will skyrocket and if we buy now when the price is still $ 17k then we will get a big profit, buy now or we will regret because we don't buy it when the price inexpensive.

Most likely the market will continue correcting until the end of the year. Even if there is a recovery, it will probably only be slow or it could be bitcoin recovering quickly, but not at a price above $50k in my opinion.
It's natural for people to panic about the FTX case, we think this is natural, because Binance owns several large stocks on various exchanges. This has made some investors to hold back, before the case is actually finished. Although the influence is not too big, but the fact is currently so.

Actually theirs no specific time to buy cryptocurrency that's wast of time or wrong, because theirs every tendency that a coin you buy now will fall beyond your expectations, and especially bitcoin, some people do wait until they experience the bottom before they will buy Bitcoin, currently the price of Bitcoin is rotational is not what someone may think that buying Bitcoin now or not buying it now is the best option, i will just tell you that investment of Bitcoin is determine when your mind permit you to invest, because i believe that cryptocurrency investment have no time Factor or a specific time for normal investment.

The news sentiment for Bitcoin and altcoin assets is one of its own fundamentals in the stock market because news speculation has a big effect on fluctuations.
In trading we not only have to rely on technical ability to predict, but we also have to stay updated about the news circulating as an indicator to set long or short.
yes, each analysis has its own way of resetting its research, so there are not a few who are contradictory and indifferent in their speculations. but back to speculation which gives the best signal for bullish or bearish depending on how popular and existing a person is in the world of crypto and economics