Bitcoin Forum

Economy => Gambling discussion => Topic started by: bisdak40 on October 17, 2022, 01:16:42 PM



Title: [Boxing] Casimero vs Akaho - December 3
Post by: bisdak40 on October 17, 2022, 01:16:42 PM
Finally it's been officially announced that Johnriel Casimero's comeback fight vs Akaho will be this coming December 3 at the Paradise City in Incheon South Korea as what Akaho's promoter announced.

TBH, with Casimero in the mix on the Philippine boxing is an exciting one because of his personality or how he handles himself going into a fight. Some would say that he is cocky but if you dig deeper into him, it is just how he mentally plays his opponent.

https://i.imgur.com/F0nGATD.png
ctto

https://www.gmanetwork.com/news/sports/boxing/848308/casimero-vs-akaho-announced-for-december-3/story/


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Akaho - December 3
Post by: acroman08 on October 17, 2022, 02:42:38 PM
looking at their boxing record, it seems that Akaho is at advantage, he is taller than Casimero and has a farther reach than him, he is older than Casimero though, I wonder if his age will affect him throughout the match. anyway, it's my first time hearing about Akaho and has no clue how he fights. it will be interesting how Casimero will handle himself against him.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Akaho - December 3
Post by: Saisher on October 17, 2022, 02:47:32 PM
Seems a good match-up for Casimero Ryo Akaho is not a patsy he is a former title contender with a record 39 wins and 26 ko's and his last fight is a knock-out win against a Filipino Dafudong, but against Casimero he will have a hard-time It, Casimero is battle tested and he is hungry to get back to the ring and get back in action, he needs to be impressive here and try to avenge the 5 Filipino Akaho beat, I hope this time Casimero will make the weight, it been a long time we have not seen him in action.  


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Akaho - December 3
Post by: Eternad on October 17, 2022, 02:51:19 PM
This will be good fight since this is a comeback fight of casimero while  Akaho is on winstreak and good KO percentage which is very lethal for Casimero. But I’m not expecting that Akaho can give hell to Casimero base on there previous matches performance. Casimero is still the best on this division due to his experience and overall strength. Reach is not that a huge advantage since this is just a division for speedy boxers and not a heavy type.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Akaho - December 3
Post by: Jawhead999 on October 17, 2022, 03:16:42 PM
So Casimero is already weight up to super bantamweight since there's no way for him to fight at bantamweight, Akaho seems to be an easy opponent for Casimero. He should win this fight, maybe he will trying to fight with the top 10 boxers and then challenging the champion to get a belt. Akaho has many fought, but the boxer he fought is mostly an amateur with bad record, that's why he have a good record.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Akaho - December 3
Post by: cabron on October 17, 2022, 04:02:54 PM
looking at their boxing record, it seems that Akaho is at advantage, he is taller than Casimero and has a farther reach than him, he is older than Casimero though, I wonder if his age will affect him throughout the match. anyway, it's my first time hearing about Akaho and has no clue how he fights. it will be interesting how Casimero will handle himself against him.

Agree. Record shows, Akaho also keeps knocking opponents so this seem a fair fight for a guy determined to bring the monster dead. But the monster is no touch for this man yet. John Casimero was shouting to give him a shot against Inoue for a long time I'm seeing this is a leg up for him to achieve it once he defeat Akaho. One more year I think can't be that bad than waiting for more years to finally given a chance to face Inoue.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Akaho - December 3
Post by: rhomelmabini on October 17, 2022, 04:34:03 PM
No idea who will be at the advantage/disadvantage here since both fighters has their own unique and nice stats. I think Casimero is trying to avenge his fellow Filipino boxer (Edrin Dapudong) here who just lost recently with Akaho last month. I think the reach and height will not be a hindrance to Casimero considering his last fight with Rigondeaux who was taller and has long reach compare to Akaho.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Akaho - December 3
Post by: AmoreJaz on October 17, 2022, 05:37:24 PM
No idea who will be at the advantage/disadvantage here since both fighters has their own unique and nice stats. I think Casimero is trying to avenge his fellow Filipino boxer (Edrin Dapudong) here who just lost recently with Akaho last month. I think the reach and height will not be a hindrance to Casimero considering his last fight with Rigondeaux who was taller and has long reach compare to Akaho.

maybe not to revenge, but it is already the right time to fight in this new weight division. remember, casimero had problems with weight issues. so hopefully, this weight division is appropriate for him and won't need sauna just to lose weight.  ;D but fine, if he wants to revenge his fellow fillipino boxer, why not? additional motivation for him, aside from the fact that he really needs to redeem himself  and gain a new belt. after all, he's relatively young in this sports and he has still years ahead of him to prove himself inside the boxing ring.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Akaho - December 3
Post by: dothebeats on October 17, 2022, 05:47:35 PM
Casimero needs to put some fights unto his name else, big fights wouldn't come to his name. The dude has a lot if grit and has a lot of experience going in to this fight, and I believe that he can carry himself quite well against Akaho, a relatively unknown name for me in the boxing field. Tale of the tape, the latter edges the Filipino boxer, but I know how Casimero fights, and I'm more confident in that than the other guy.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Akaho - December 3
Post by: Blawpaw on October 17, 2022, 07:01:47 PM
Finally it's been officially announced that Johnriel Casimero's comeback fight vs Akaho will be this coming December 3 at the Paradise City in Incheon South Korea as what Akaho's promoter announced.

TBH, with Casimero in the mix on the Philippine boxing is an exciting one because of his personality or how he handles himself going into a fight. Some would say that he is cocky but if you dig deeper into him, it is just how he mentally plays his opponent.

https://i.imgur.com/F0nGATD.png
ctto

https://www.gmanetwork.com/news/sports/boxing/848308/casimero-vs-akaho-announced-for-december-3/story/

Yeah, Casimero puts too much show-off on his fights and presentation. Besides being over-cocky, he also has a disability which is overconfidence and this may be his Achilles' heel. That is why I totally believe he will not win the fight. My bet goes to Akaho who is overzealous should use this to his advantage and end up winning the fight


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Akaho - December 3
Post by: Baofeng on October 17, 2022, 08:45:46 PM
Yes, I think this is a good match for Casimero, a comeback fight for the brandish Filipino hehehe. For sure many of us here have missed him against Butler and that he should have the opportunity to face Inoue. Anyhow, his team learn their mistakes so it's somewhat John Riel is on a comeback trail. And with that, Casimero will be looking for a sensational win against Akaho in December. I'm expecting no less than a war and Casimero winning by knock out.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Akaho - December 3
Post by: usekevin on October 17, 2022, 08:51:19 PM
The fight will going to be an unique one,because we had good players in the match.Both player was best at certain strategy.This match will going to comeback and new game to the Filipino.He need to prove his game for now,but the Casimero are not forced to prove anything.But he need to win the game for his beloved fans.Let see how this going to works.The last match for Filipino was not good one.He lost his game against the Akaho .


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Akaho - December 3
Post by: Scripture on October 17, 2022, 08:53:15 PM
It’s good to see Casimero back after so many dramas happened before with his supposed matches, and finally he decided to have a match again.

Yes, I agree on the way Casimiro plays the match and I thing it’s part of his strategy to distract his opponent. Akaho also have an interesting records, this might not be an easy comeback for Casimero so better for him to be prepared, physically and mentally or else this might be a nightmare comeback for him.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Akaho - December 3
Post by: Yaunfitda on October 17, 2022, 09:10:03 PM
It’s good to see Casimero back after so many dramas happened before with his supposed matches, and finally he decided to have a match again.
Yes, he has been in hell in the last 6 months of this year, he was riding on a big momentum on the bantamweight, unfortunately, his weight issues did it for him.

Yes, I agree on the way Casimiro plays the match and I thing it’s part of his strategy to distract his opponent. Akaho also have an interesting records, this might not be an easy comeback for Casimero so better for him to be prepared, physically and mentally or else this might be a nightmare comeback for him.
But at least before the year ends, his promoter was able to secure a fight and knowing Casimero, he loves to travel and fight to the opponents backyard and beat them. I'm expecting that Casimero will go full throttle just like his previous fights wherein it is very exciting.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Akaho - December 3
Post by: crzy on October 17, 2022, 09:19:08 PM
It’s good to see Casimero back after so many dramas happened before with his supposed matches, and finally he decided to have a match again.
Yes, he has been in hell in the last 6 months of this year, he was riding on a big momentum on the bantamweight, unfortunately, his weight issues did it for him.
His team should already learned their lesson, they should monitor the weight of Casimero of else this fight will not push through again. Casimero also need to focus so we can see him fighting again. Is this match already settled? Can’t wait to see him back again after a few months of being inactive. I’m not familiar with Akaho but I’m sure he’s a good boxer as well because he is being matched with Casimero.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Akaho - December 3
Post by: samcrypto on October 17, 2022, 10:37:26 PM
That’s a good match for Casimero, they almost have the same record and watching some of the matches of Akaho, it looks like he is not an easy opponent after all with a good record of KOs as well.

Casimero comeback should be more epic, I’m expecting more from him after all the cancelled matches before. Casimero should reclaim himself and get a belt for him, still have time to prepare for this, this can be a great match to end the year.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Akaho - December 3
Post by: BitDane on October 17, 2022, 10:49:58 PM
This is the first fight of Casimero in his current weight division so it is interesting to see whether he can handle the punches on this division and if his punches still has the same effect to his opponent. 

It’s good to see Casimero back after so many dramas happened before with his supposed matches, and finally he decided to have a match again.

Yes, I agree on the way Casimiro plays the match and I thing it’s part of his strategy to distract his opponent. Akaho also have an interesting records, this might not be an easy comeback for Casimero so better for him to be prepared, physically and mentally or else this might be a nightmare comeback for him.

True this might not an easy fight for Casimero since Akaho looks tough.  I also hope he is well conditioned on this one since he needs to have a better impression this time after the previous event of stripping him the title.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Akaho - December 3
Post by: harizen on October 17, 2022, 11:25:38 PM
So Casimero is already weight up to super bantamweight since there's no way for him to fight at bantamweight,

And that move up by Casimero might give the possibility for him to meet the expected undisputed bantamweight champion, Naoya Inoue who is likely to move up too on Super Bantamweight/Junior featherweight once he wins against Paul Butler in December.

This fight shouldn't be a problem for Casimero even though he is inactive for 16 months.

I hope though that this time, Casimero's camp should now be able to avoid those recent problems why he was being stripped out of his WBO title.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Akaho - December 3
Post by: goinmerry on October 17, 2022, 11:46:33 PM
And the long wait is over as Casimero will now return to the ring. Filipino boxing fans will surely be excited about this match.

I'm not aware of his opponent Akaho but based on my research he recently won against a PH boxer just last month with a KO win.

But that PH boxer is not in the league of Casimero that's why I'm sure Quadro Alas will take this win.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Akaho - December 3
Post by: TravelMug on October 18, 2022, 12:19:00 AM
And as what we have expected of him, going to move up in weight in the correct decision of Casimero. Of course the big fight is with Inoue, but his body can't anymore squeeze to 118 lbs and so it's time to go to 122 lbs and test the waters.

I'm also not familiar with Akaho, so will check his records later.

Nevertheless, it could be cherry pick fight or Casimero's team decided to go for a tougher opponent in the new division to see if he can carry his power in this fight against Akaho.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Akaho - December 3
Post by: bittraffic on October 18, 2022, 06:26:38 AM
So Casimero is already weight up to super bantamweight since there's no way for him to fight at bantamweight,

And that move up by Casimero might give the possibility for him to meet the expected undisputed bantamweight champion, Naoya Inoue who is likely to move up too on Super Bantamweight/Junior featherweight once he wins against Paul Butler in December.

This fight shouldn't be a problem for Casimero even though he is inactive for 16 months.

I hope though that this time, Casimero's camp should now be able to avoid those recent problems why he was being stripped out of his WBO title.

I have to google to learn what happened:

Quote
Casimero was barred by the British Boxing Board of Control (BBBofC) from fighting after he broke the boxing body's rule of using saunas before a fight to cut down on weight.

So this is a violation I guess but this is probably common practice for boxers who just want to achieve the weight fast. If it were imposed on all, every champ may just be stripped of thier belts. Anyway, seem Inoue and Casimero are meant to meet above after all.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Akaho - December 3
Post by: Natalim on October 18, 2022, 08:18:41 AM
Finally, something to watch out for, Casimero has to start winning again in order for him to become a champion, and hopefully, he will consider this as a good start and he should still impress us with a good win. IMO, Casimero is still in his prime but he was just unfortunate to be unable to manage his weight well, so he lost the opportunity there's another one that has opened for him.

I'm not familiar with this opponent, but who cares, it's not a championship fight, so it's alright.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Akaho - December 3
Post by: carlisle1 on October 18, 2022, 09:06:38 AM
Finally, something to watch out for, Casimero has to start winning again in order for him to become a champion, and hopefully, he will consider this as a good start and he should still impress us with a good win. IMO, Casimero is still in his prime but he was just unfortunate to be unable to manage his weight well, so he lost the opportunity there's another one that has opened for him.

I'm not familiar with this opponent, but who cares, it's not a championship fight, so it's alright.

A god start for Casimero to bring his name on hype again, finally he moves on from losing that belt
and now he moves up instead of trying to keep that same weight.

Like you, I don't have any idea about his opponent but one thing for me is sure, Casimero will try to impress his
fans and will do everything to win this one and start his journey in chasing a title fight.

It's another opportunity that he needs to grab and if he manages to win this one, it will open the door to have
more money fight to come.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Akaho - December 3
Post by: bisdak40 on October 18, 2022, 12:49:17 PM
Quote
Casimero was barred by the British Boxing Board of Control (BBBofC) from fighting after he broke the boxing body's rule of using saunas before a fight to cut down on weight.

So this is a violation I guess but this is probably common practice for boxers who just want to achieve the weight fast. If it were imposed on all, every champ may just be stripped of thier belts. Anyway, seem Inoue and Casimero are meant to meet above after all.

That maybe WBO's revenge to Casimero in the Dubai incident. Yeah, all boxing champs could be stripped of their belt if they strictly impose these rules but the thing with Casimero is that he showed this sauna thing in his youtube vlog, more people have seen so that might be the trigger for BBBofC to investigate, and disqualify him to fight for the belt.

Adding a poll to this fight to see who is more popular between the two but I guess Quadro Alas will be the runaway winner on this poll as many users here are his fans.  ;D


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Akaho - December 3
Post by: robelneo on October 18, 2022, 01:28:50 PM
Two things will motivate Casimero to knock out Akaho, the first one is he wants to be impressive in his comeback after the weight issue and the second is Akaho just knocked out a Filipino in his last fight, two things that will surely motivate Casimero as Akaho is bragging about the Filipinos that he has beaten, this is a very important fight for Casimero, he is left out in the limelight after he was stripped of the title, with this fight he can give a big statement in the boxing community that he is back.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Akaho - December 3
Post by: yazher on October 18, 2022, 02:27:10 PM
Looks like a nice fight and this time Casimero should do his best to maintain his healthy body before the fight. They wanted to make it happen in Korea I wonder how many boxing fans are there why not just in Japan?

Anyway, both are pretty good boxers and knockout artists. this fight shouldn't be the same as their last fights and most likely this one will gonna end up in Knockout as well cause both fighters are known to like to clash with their opponents in the middle of the ring.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Akaho - December 3
Post by: rhomelmabini on October 18, 2022, 02:35:05 PM
No idea who will be at the advantage/disadvantage here since both fighters has their own unique and nice stats. I think Casimero is trying to avenge his fellow Filipino boxer (Edrin Dapudong) here who just lost recently with Akaho last month. I think the reach and height will not be a hindrance to Casimero considering his last fight with Rigondeaux who was taller and has long reach compare to Akaho.
maybe not to revenge, but it is already the right time to fight in this new weight division. remember, casimero had problems with weight issues. so hopefully, this weight division is appropriate for him and won't need sauna just to lose weight.  ;D but fine, if he wants to revenge his fellow fillipino boxer, why not? additional motivation for him, aside from the fact that he really needs to redeem himself  and gain a new belt. after all, he's relatively young in this sports and he has still years ahead of him to prove himself inside the boxing ring.
Revenge wasn't the right word I guess but avenge. Yes, it really list him as inactive boxer considering it was already a year now before that last fight of him with Rigondeaux. That part of avenging might be on Quadro Alas's mind I think because it was just month ago and now Akaho is thinking he could get two Filipino boxer in just 4 months of time.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Akaho - December 3
Post by: YOSHIE on October 18, 2022, 03:36:00 PM
Finally it's been officially announced that Johnriel Casimero's comeback fight vs Akaho will be this coming December 3 at the Paradise City in Incheon South Korea as what Akaho's promoter announced.
I think this boxing is a professional opponent's boxing, age is not a benchmark for both of them, the record is also not too far away 31-4 with 21 KOs and 39-2-2 with 26 KOs for Akaho, talk a little about Casimero I saw him last fight 2021 against Guillermo, although as I know Casimero is mentally tough and the average opponent in the ring can be defeated by Casimero, but for boxing this time I'm sure Akaho will do his best to win boxing next december, my hunch says so.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Akaho - December 3
Post by: Daltonik on October 18, 2022, 03:50:35 PM
It seems to me that this will be a fight of approximately equal boxers, although Ryo Akaho is not as well known as John Riel Casimero, but still he is an experienced boxer who has held 43 fights and his last fight took place on September 3, 2022 against Edrin Dapudong, which he won by knockout, in any case, the fight should be interesting and not predictable.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Akaho - December 3
Post by: coinerer on October 18, 2022, 04:05:23 PM
in my opinion and from my boxing experience i think Akaho have more possibility to with then Casimero. Akaho is much strong player then Casimero and he have good fighting technique. If Akaho can't win then it can be drow. But is didn’t seeing any possibility for Casimero that can be won. i haven’t much experience in boxing but from my little experience I can make this prediction


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Akaho - December 3
Post by: Yaunfitda on October 18, 2022, 09:11:43 PM
It’s good to see Casimero back after so many dramas happened before with his supposed matches, and finally he decided to have a match again.
Yes, he has been in hell in the last 6 months of this year, he was riding on a big momentum on the bantamweight, unfortunately, his weight issues did it for him.
His team should already learned their lesson, they should monitor the weight of Casimero of else this fight will not push through again. Casimero also need to focus so we can see him fighting again. Is this match already settled? Can’t wait to see him back again after a few months of being inactive. I’m not familiar with Akaho but I’m sure he’s a good boxer as well because he is being matched with Casimero.
Right, a big lesson for his team and they should hire a professional dietitian to watch the food he eat so that he can maintain within the fighting weight of 122 lbs. Otherwise, it Casimero's weight balloon again, we might see another problem. But in any case, yes the fight is definitely a go for him and this fight is already settled. And we can only hope that it will be the same Casimero that campaign in 118 lbs, he had the power and the heart to go toe to toe against anyone.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Akaho - December 3
Post by: AmoreJaz on October 18, 2022, 09:56:39 PM
It’s good to see Casimero back after so many dramas happened before with his supposed matches, and finally he decided to have a match again.
Yes, he has been in hell in the last 6 months of this year, he was riding on a big momentum on the bantamweight, unfortunately, his weight issues did it for him.
His team should already learned their lesson, they should monitor the weight of Casimero of else this fight will not push through again. Casimero also need to focus so we can see him fighting again. Is this match already settled? Can’t wait to see him back again after a few months of being inactive. I’m not familiar with Akaho but I’m sure he’s a good boxer as well because he is being matched with Casimero.
Right, a big lesson for his team and they should hire a professional dietitian to watch the food he eat so that he can maintain within the fighting weight of 122 lbs. Otherwise, it Casimero's weight balloon again, we might see another problem. But in any case, yes the fight is definitely a go for him and this fight is already settled. And we can only hope that it will be the same Casimero that campaign in 118 lbs, he had the power and the heart to go toe to toe against anyone.

from the poll here, casimero is leading. i can understand that many people still believe his boxing skills. however, the work is still on him. so going up to this weight division should not be a big deal for him as he had issues at 118lbs. his camp should not make any more excuses in this weight division. if casimero is comfortable with this weight, he should show a much better performance. akaho may not be the same as rigo, as rigo was like running away from the opponent.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Akaho - December 3
Post by: Jawhead999 on October 19, 2022, 03:43:30 AM
And that move up by Casimero might give the possibility for him to meet the expected undisputed bantamweight champion, Naoya Inoue who is likely to move up too on Super Bantamweight/Junior featherweight once he wins against Paul Butler in December.

This fight shouldn't be a problem for Casimero even though he is inactive for 16 months.

I hope though that this time, Casimero's camp should now be able to avoid those recent problems why he was being stripped out of his WBO title.
Yeah, there's no any fighters can compete against Inoue on the Bantamweight, so there's will be no hype for his fighting if he stay on his current weight. If Casimero can get at least one belt on this weight, his fight with Inoue in the future will be inevitable since he need to defend his belt.

I think there's no way for Casimero to hide against Inoue, he will need to face it sooner or later. Casimero isn't old too, so he will fight when he's still in prime condition.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Akaho - December 3
Post by: smartaction on October 19, 2022, 04:33:47 AM
in my opinion and from my boxing experience i think Akaho have more possibility to with then Casimero. Akaho is much strong player then Casimero and he have good fighting technique. If Akaho can't win then it can be drow. But is didn’t seeing any possibility for Casimero that can be won. i haven’t much experience in boxing but from my little experience I can make this prediction
Akaho can be a strong player but I don't think he can with Casimero, because Casimero is much stronger than Akaho and I also see that Casimero has more votes in this thread. How can you make a guarantee that Akaho will win here?  there the game hasn't started yet . I am assuming that you are not very knowledgeable about the sport of boxing and players


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Akaho - December 3
Post by: Oasisman on October 19, 2022, 04:36:48 AM
looking at their boxing record, it seems that Akaho is at advantage, he is taller than Casimero and has a farther reach than him, he is older than Casimero though, I wonder if his age will affect him throughout the match. anyway, it's my first time hearing about Akaho and has no clue how he fights. it will be interesting how Casimero will handle himself against him.

It seems like you're not alone here. I don't even know this guys exist in a pro boxing world. He might have the size advantage but the fact that he's 36, that will definitely affect his performance as he might be out of his prime already.
I've done a quick research about this guy and one thing I noticed is that he have like 80% of his opponent are coming from Japan and some other part in Asia. He does not have any record against a notable or elite fighter AFAIK.
IMO, Casimero will dominate this match.
For now, I don't want any other opponent for Casimero but Inoue.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Akaho - December 3
Post by: coinerer on October 19, 2022, 09:23:04 AM
in my opinion and from my boxing experience i think Akaho have more possibility to with then Casimero. Akaho is much strong player then Casimero and he have good fighting technique. If Akaho can't win then it can be drow. But is didn’t seeing any possibility for Casimero that can be won. i haven’t much experience in boxing but from my little experience I can make this prediction
Akaho can be a strong player but I don't think he can with Casimero, because Casimero is much stronger than Akaho and I also see that Casimero has more votes in this thread. How can you make a guarantee that Akaho will win here?  there the game hasn't started yet . I am assuming that you are not very knowledgeable about the sport of boxing and players
If you think I don't understand boxing or I don't know these two players then you are wrong.  Because everyone has their own favorite players and everyone has different thoughts and predictions.  So I think my prediction is correct and I have a belief that Akaho will win this game.  Maybe you can think in your prediction that maybe Casimero will win but how can you guarantee that?


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Akaho - December 3
Post by: Dave1 on October 19, 2022, 09:36:49 AM
in my opinion and from my boxing experience i think Akaho have more possibility to with then Casimero. Akaho is much strong player then Casimero and he have good fighting technique. If Akaho can't win then it can be drow. But is didn’t seeing any possibility for Casimero that can be won. i haven’t much experience in boxing but from my little experience I can make this prediction
Akaho can be a strong player but I don't think he can with Casimero, because Casimero is much stronger than Akaho and I also see that Casimero has more votes in this thread. How can you make a guarantee that Akaho will win here?  there the game hasn't started yet . I am assuming that you are not very knowledgeable about the sport of boxing and players

Just to be fair, Akaho has a fighting chance to win against Casimero. But the thing here, boxing fans know what Casimero can bring into this fight and as we read the comments, there are fans that are not familiar with Akaho and so they have to look at his records.

On the other hand, Casimero has been winning and used to be the champion in 118 lbs until he has issues with his weight and decided to move up now to 122 lbs and so this is first fight and we will know if the old Casimero will show and win by knockout or he can't bring his power to this division.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Akaho - December 3
Post by: aioc on October 19, 2022, 01:49:38 PM
It's not a cherry-picked fight because the guy comes from a knockout win against a Filipino who is also a good boxer, but I don't see something on Akaho that can make his poise a big threat to Casimero's comeback fight, Casimero needs to get back again he has been out of the ring for a very long time and this will have a bad impact on his fight against Akaho because of ring rust, Akaho is made for Casimero, he loves fighter that likes to mix up and engage, Casimero's last fight is against a runner Guillermo Rigondeaux, Casimero will knock this guy out, to avenge all the Filipinos he beat.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Akaho - December 3
Post by: Japinat on October 19, 2022, 03:01:15 PM
looking at their boxing record, it seems that Akaho is at advantage, he is taller than Casimero and has a farther reach than him, he is older than Casimero though, I wonder if his age will affect him throughout the match. anyway, it's my first time hearing about Akaho and has no clue how he fights. it will be interesting how Casimero will handle himself against him.

Yes, the Japanese have those advantages really but it's not that much big and knowing Casimero, he'll ate punches just to get what he wanted that is why he is interesting to watch. Actually, this is not his first time fighting boxers that are much taller than him, Zolani Tete and Duke Micah is much taller than Ryo Akaho but Casimero defeated the first two named boxers by a way of TKO and both ended in just 3 rounds.

Also I noticed, this fight is Casimero's debut as it will be contested in 122 pounds, I guess this is way to face Inoue next if the latter moves in the next weight class after the unification, super-bantam in particular.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Akaho - December 3
Post by: virasisog on October 19, 2022, 03:14:20 PM
It's not a cherry-picked fight because the guy comes from a knockout win against a Filipino who is also a good boxer, but I don't see something on Akaho that can make his poise a big threat to Casimero's comeback fight, Casimero needs to get back again he has been out of the ring for a very long time and this will have a bad impact on his fight against Akaho because of ring rust, Akaho is made for Casimero, he loves fighter that likes to mix up and engage, Casimero's last fight is against a runner Guillermo Rigondeaux, Casimero will knock this guy out, to avenge all the Filipinos he beat.
This wasn't a lucky year for Filipino boxers since most of them experienced defeat this year but I'm rooting for Casimero. He seems too eager to win this match which will be too challenging for Akaho who also wants a challenging match. If Casimero would prepare hard, Akaho's advantage will never be a hindrance for him to winning this match. It will be a good comeback fight for him.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Akaho - December 3
Post by: smartaction on October 20, 2022, 05:45:18 AM
in my opinion and from my boxing experience i think Akaho have more possibility to with then Casimero. Akaho is much strong player then Casimero and he have good fighting technique. If Akaho can't win then it can be drow. But is didn’t seeing any possibility for Casimero that can be won. i haven’t much experience in boxing but from my little experience I can make this prediction
Akaho can be a strong player but I don't think he can with Casimero, because Casimero is much stronger than Akaho and I also see that Casimero has more votes in this thread. How can you make a guarantee that Akaho will win here?  there the game hasn't started yet . I am assuming that you are not very knowledgeable about the sport of boxing and players
If you think I don't understand boxing or I don't know these two players then you are wrong.  Because everyone has their own favorite players and everyone has different thoughts and predictions.  So I think my prediction is correct and I have a belief that Akaho will win this game.  Maybe you can think in your prediction that maybe Casimero will win but how can you guarantee that?
Well, since we can't make a prediction with absolute certainty.  So we should wait till the game starts.  But I am not challenging you but I am giving you some hints that your predictions may or may not be wrong.  But since everyone has the right to choose their own team, you can definitely choose your own player.  I won't call it bad but I will keep you in mind and give you a punch at the end of the game.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Akaho - December 3
Post by: coin-investor on October 20, 2022, 06:10:23 AM
looking at their boxing record, it seems that Akaho is at advantage, he is taller than Casimero and has a farther reach than him, he is older than Casimero though, I wonder if his age will affect him throughout the match. anyway, it's my first time hearing about Akaho and has no clue how he fights. it will be interesting how Casimero will handle himself against him.

Tete has a height and reaches advantage when he fought Casimero but Casimero takes him down in only three rounds as long as Casimero's opponent is not running around like Rigondeux did Casimero will always have the upper hand, Akaho style is very much suited for Casimero he loves to slug it out and go forward, Casimero only needs a good opening, he has proven to the boxing world that he can knock out just anybody.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Akaho - December 3
Post by: carlisle1 on October 20, 2022, 09:57:16 AM
looking at their boxing record, it seems that Akaho is at advantage, he is taller than Casimero and has a farther reach than him, he is older than Casimero though, I wonder if his age will affect him throughout the match. anyway, it's my first time hearing about Akaho and has no clue how he fights. it will be interesting how Casimero will handle himself against him.

Tete has a height and reaches advantage when he fought Casimero but Casimero takes him down in only three rounds as long as Casimero's opponent is not running around like Rigondeux did Casimero will always have the upper hand, Akaho style is very much suited for Casimero he loves to slug it out and go forward, Casimero only needs a good opening, he has proven to the boxing world that he can knock out just anybody.

Casimero if with same mentality will chase for a toe-to-toe fight, even Akaho have that reach advantage for the Pinoy former champ
he will find ways in seeking for the win. Not sure yet if how the fight will turn since Casimero after that weight loss is not in the picture
for quite some time and it will be its debut in this new division.

It's hard to tell if he can dominate Akaho or it will be the other side around. What is important for now is Casimero is back and will
try to climb in, chasing the belt from this new division.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Akaho - December 3
Post by: rodskee on October 20, 2022, 10:42:15 AM
Casimero is my Bet on this one , there are advantage towards Akaho because he is ahead in height and reach but Casimero is one of the most toughest boxer in His division so maybe lets call this as a much awaited fight  so better to  have your choice and bet .

and also Casimero will go Head to head in this one and not going distance to lessen the advantage of Akaho.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Akaho - December 3
Post by: stadus on October 20, 2022, 02:07:26 PM
Casimero is my Bet on this one , there are advantage towards Akaho because he is ahead in height and reach but Casimero is one of the most toughest boxer in His division so maybe lets call this as a much awaited fight  so better to  have your choice and bet .

and also Casimero will go Head to head in this one and not going distance to lessen the advantage of Akaho.

Same here, this is his comeback fight and I'm sure he will not mess this one up. No betting odds yet but I'm certain that Casimero will be the favorite to win this fight. Maybe waiting is the only thing to do now, and since both fighters have enough time to train, I'm hoping that we will see a war, not a fight that one will run while the other will chase.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Akaho - December 3
Post by: Yatsan on October 20, 2022, 03:23:50 PM
Casimero is my Bet on this one , there are advantage towards Akaho because he is ahead in height and reach but Casimero is one of the most toughest boxer in His division so maybe lets call this as a much awaited fight  so better to  have your choice and bet .

and also Casimero will go Head to head in this one and not going distance to lessen the advantage of Akaho.

Same here, this is his comeback fight and I'm sure he will not mess this one up. No betting odds yet but I'm certain that Casimero will be the favorite to win this fight. Maybe waiting is the only thing to do now, and since both fighters have enough time to train, I'm hoping that we will see a war, not a fight that one will run while the other will chase.
Akaho is a strong contender no doubt. Casimero being a crowd favorite could be both a disadvantage and advantage. Disadvantage if he would be carried away by his drive to avenge his fellowmen who were defeated by akaho (we all know that this contender has a good record consisting of opponents with the same nationality as Riel). It could make him less focused with the fight. While on the other hand, this drive can give him the advantage to be more serious with this match up. Another thing is Casimero's previous fight result wherein it was a bitter end. Will it be a comeback or not? I am ofcourse in favor of Riel with this fight, but considering they are both good fighters, we may see the unexpected. Hoping that it would be a great fight.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Akaho - December 3
Post by: cryptomaniac_xxx on October 20, 2022, 04:00:13 PM
Casimero is my Bet on this one , there are advantage towards Akaho because he is ahead in height and reach but Casimero is one of the most toughest boxer in His division so maybe lets call this as a much awaited fight  so better to  have your choice and bet .

and also Casimero will go Head to head in this one and not going distance to lessen the advantage of Akaho.

Same here, this is his comeback fight and I'm sure he will not mess this one up. No betting odds yet but I'm certain that Casimero will be the favorite to win this fight. Maybe waiting is the only thing to do now, and since both fighters have enough time to train, I'm hoping that we will see a war, not a fight that one will run while the other will chase.
Akaho is a strong contender no doubt. Casimero being a crowd favorite could be both a disadvantage and advantage. Disadvantage if he would be carried away by his drive to avenge his fellowmen who were defeated by akaho (we all know that this contender has a good record consisting of opponents with the same nationality as Riel). It could make him less focused with the fight. While on the other hand, this drive can give him the advantage to be more serious with this match up. Another thing is Casimero's previous fight result wherein it was a bitter end. Will it be a comeback or not? I am ofcourse in favor of Riel with this fight, but considering they are both good fighters, we may see the unexpected. Hoping that it would be a great fight.

I don't think that Casimero will have that in mind, I mean avenging his fellow Filipino who fall in the hands of Akaho?

He needs to focus and be motivated, not to get revenge, but he should look at this as the one that could change his career. He was riding high in the bantamweight division, but he got careless, and now trying to make a huge comeback against a strong contender. So he needs to win big so that his name will be on the discussion and maybe he just need a couple more fights because he can be set up to fight for the belt or at least a title eliminator candidate.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Akaho - December 3
Post by: mirakal on October 20, 2022, 04:20:38 PM
Finally, something to watch out for, Casimero has to start winning again in order for him to become a champion, and hopefully, he will consider this as a good start and he should still impress us with a good win. IMO, Casimero is still in his prime but he was just unfortunate to be unable to manage his weight well, so he lost the opportunity there's another one that has opened for him.

I'm not familiar with this opponent, but who cares, it's not a championship fight, so it's alright.

I'm happy that he ain't gonna spend the rest of the year reflecting on what he had done in the past when he almost have the shot on undisputed title with Inoue. This is much better for him rather than forcing himself to shrink at a certain weight needed that he'll surely struggle. In this weight class, I hope have no issues because he needed to climb through the ranks if he still want to be a belt holder.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Akaho - December 3
Post by: coinerer on October 20, 2022, 11:24:59 PM
in my opinion and from my boxing experience i think Akaho have more possibility to with then Casimero. Akaho is much strong player then Casimero and he have good fighting technique. If Akaho can't win then it can be drow. But is didn’t seeing any possibility for Casimero that can be won. i haven’t much experience in boxing but from my little experience I can make this prediction
Akaho can be a strong player but I don't think he can with Casimero, because Casimero is much stronger than Akaho and I also see that Casimero has more votes in this thread. How can you make a guarantee that Akaho will win here?  there the game hasn't started yet . I am assuming that you are not very knowledgeable about the sport of boxing and players
If you think I don't understand boxing or I don't know these two players then you are wrong.  Because everyone has their own favorite players and everyone has different thoughts and predictions.  So I think my prediction is correct and I have a belief that Akaho will win this game.  Maybe you can think in your prediction that maybe Casimero will win but how can you guarantee that?
Well, since we can't make a prediction with absolute certainty.  So we should wait till the game starts.  But I am not challenging you but I am giving you some hints that your predictions may or may not be wrong.  But since everyone has the right to choose their own team, you can definitely choose your own player.  I won't call it bad but I will keep you in mind and give you a punch at the end of the game.
Of course you can remember me.  And you can tell me anything, I don't mind.  I won't argue with you here but of course we can argue about it at the end of the game.  lets wait till the game starts.  And enjoy the game from time to time.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Akaho - December 3
Post by: chaser15 on October 20, 2022, 11:52:33 PM
I'm happy that he ain't gonna spend the rest of the year reflecting on what he had done in the past when he almost have the shot on undisputed title with Inoue. This is much better for him rather than forcing himself to shrink at a certain weight needed that he'll surely struggle. In this weight class, I hope have no issues because he needed to climb through the ranks if he still want to be a belt holder.

Should be no problem now on this weight division but hopefully, that gastritis won't ruin the fun here. That medical condition is unpredictable and Casimero can be hit with that anytime. But this time I think they are more prepared and during the time when they are almost close fighting against Paul Butler, he seems healthy at that point.

Casimero has no room for losing this match. If he loses here, I think it's better to just retire or people should not expect to him anymore.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Akaho - December 3
Post by: Kemarit on October 20, 2022, 11:53:03 PM
I submitted my vote to Casimero, this is going to be a big comeback fight for him so I think he will give his everything. And obviously the weight issues might not be evident  as he has to move up 4 lbs heavier, so it will be easier for him to maintain that weight. Power? he can still bring it in I reckon, fighters usually has one weight to carry their power, but after that it might diminished. So I'm expecting Casimero to win via knock out or technical knock out when Akaho can't fight anymore.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Akaho - December 3
Post by: smartaction on October 21, 2022, 05:32:56 AM
in my opinion and from my boxing experience i think Akaho have more possibility to with then Casimero. Akaho is much strong player then Casimero and he have good fighting technique. If Akaho can't win then it can be drow. But is didn’t seeing any possibility for Casimero that can be won. i haven’t much experience in boxing but from my little experience I can make this prediction
Akaho can be a strong player but I don't think he can with Casimero, because Casimero is much stronger than Akaho and I also see that Casimero has more votes in this thread. How can you make a guarantee that Akaho will win here?  there the game hasn't started yet . I am assuming that you are not very knowledgeable about the sport of boxing and players
If you think I don't understand boxing or I don't know these two players then you are wrong.  Because everyone has their own favorite players and everyone has different thoughts and predictions.  So I think my prediction is correct and I have a belief that Akaho will win this game.  Maybe you can think in your prediction that maybe Casimero will win but how can you guarantee that?
Well, since we can't make a prediction with absolute certainty.  So we should wait till the game starts.  But I am not challenging you but I am giving you some hints that your predictions may or may not be wrong.  But since everyone has the right to choose their own team, you can definitely choose your own player.  I won't call it bad but I will keep you in mind and give you a punch at the end of the game.
Of course you can remember me.  And you can tell me anything, I don't mind.  I won't argue with you here but of course we can argue about it at the end of the game.  lets wait till the game starts.  And enjoy the game from time to time.
I am not here to say anything bad to you for any bad purpose and I am not here to argue with you, I am only giving my opinion and I am only talking about my supported party and I am saying that he is liked by almost many people.  But here it doesn't mean that you are belittled here, or that a nasty comment is made against you, that you misunderstand me.  But apart from that let's wait for the game and enjoy the game in right time


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Akaho - December 3
Post by: Vaculin on October 21, 2022, 02:49:35 PM
I submitted my vote to Casimero, this is going to be a big comeback fight for him so I think he will give his everything. And obviously the weight issues might not be evident  as he has to move up 4 lbs heavier, so it will be easier for him to maintain that weight. Power? he can still bring it in I reckon, fighters usually has one weight to carry their power, but after that it might diminished. So I'm expecting Casimero to win via knock out or technical knock out when Akaho can't fight anymore.

Same here, voted for Casimero in this comeback fight.

His opponent has plenty of fight experience as well, 26 KOs from 39 fights, I think he should not underestimate Akaho. I'm expecting that Casimero will dominate the poll here but that does not mean he will win easily against an experienced boxer.

I'm pretty sure it's not going to be a boring fight as his opponent is a KO artist, so Casimero will be tested again.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Akaho - December 3
Post by: Sanitough on October 21, 2022, 03:34:14 PM
I'm happy that he ain't gonna spend the rest of the year reflecting on what he had done in the past when he almost have the shot on undisputed title with Inoue. This is much better for him rather than forcing himself to shrink at a certain weight needed that he'll surely struggle. In this weight class, I hope have no issues because he needed to climb through the ranks if he still want to be a belt holder.

Should be no problem now on this weight division but hopefully, that gastritis won't ruin the fun here. That medical condition is unpredictable and Casimero can be hit with that anytime. But this time I think they are more prepared and during the time when they are almost close fighting against Paul Butler, he seems healthy at that point.

Casimero has no room for losing this match. If he loses here, I think it's better to just retire or people should not expect to him anymore.

He will not lose if he is healthy, prior to his disqualification in the Butler's match, we were expecting that he will win, in fact, he was the heavy favorite to win but unfortunate things happened and he was stripped of his belt. Now, he is coming back, and though it's not a big fight it's already good for a start, so I'm very optimistic that he will win here and he will start building his name again, that hype has to grow for him to have a big fight again.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Akaho - December 3
Post by: bisdak40 on October 22, 2022, 12:40:12 PM
I'm happy that he ain't gonna spend the rest of the year reflecting on what he had done in the past when he almost have the shot on undisputed title with Inoue. This is much better for him rather than forcing himself to shrink at a certain weight needed that he'll surely struggle. In this weight class, I hope have no issues because he needed to climb through the ranks if he still want to be a belt holder.

Should be no problem now on this weight division but hopefully, that gastritis won't ruin the fun here. That medical condition is unpredictable and Casimero can be hit with that anytime. But this time I think they are more prepared and during the time when they are almost close fighting against Paul Butler, he seems healthy at that point.

Casimero has no room for losing this match. If he loses here, I think it's better to just retire or people should not expect to him anymore.

He will not lose if he is healthy, prior to his disqualification in the Butler's match, we were expecting that he will win, in fact, he was the heavy favorite to win but unfortunate things happened and he was stripped of his belt. Now, he is coming back, and though it's not a big fight it's already good for a start, so I'm very optimistic that he will win here and he will start building his name again, that hype has to grow for him to have a big fight again.

I agree, he will not lose on this one as he is determined more than ever to show to the fans that Quadro Alas is one of the faces of Philippine boxing. Getting the weight is expected to be not a problem anymore so all he has to do now is train hard and be focused on the fight and don't think of the future fight with Inoue, one fight at a time.

Odds are not released yet but for sure Casimero would be the heavy favorite to win this one, I just hope that ring rust won't be an issue here as he is out of the ring for more than a year I think.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Akaho - December 3
Post by: Sanitough on October 22, 2022, 01:26:40 PM
I'm happy that he ain't gonna spend the rest of the year reflecting on what he had done in the past when he almost have the shot on undisputed title with Inoue. This is much better for him rather than forcing himself to shrink at a certain weight needed that he'll surely struggle. In this weight class, I hope have no issues because he needed to climb through the ranks if he still want to be a belt holder.

Should be no problem now on this weight division but hopefully, that gastritis won't ruin the fun here. That medical condition is unpredictable and Casimero can be hit with that anytime. But this time I think they are more prepared and during the time when they are almost close fighting against Paul Butler, he seems healthy at that point.

Casimero has no room for losing this match. If he loses here, I think it's better to just retire or people should not expect to him anymore.

He will not lose if he is healthy, prior to his disqualification in the Butler's match, we were expecting that he will win, in fact, he was the heavy favorite to win but unfortunate things happened and he was stripped of his belt. Now, he is coming back, and though it's not a big fight it's already good for a start, so I'm very optimistic that he will win here and he will start building his name again, that hype has to grow for him to have a big fight again.

I agree, he will not lose on this one as he is determined more than ever to show to the fans that Quadro Alas is one of the faces of Philippine boxing. Getting the weight is expected to be not a problem anymore so all he has to do now is train hard and be focused on the fight and don't think of the future fight with Inoue, one fight at a time.

Odds are not released yet but for sure Casimero would be the heavy favorite to win this one, I just hope that ring rust won't be an issue here as he is out of the ring for more than a year I think.

There should be no problem with his weight here as he already move higher, let's hope that he trained hard for this one because winning alone is not enough, he needs to win convincingly like a KO to be exact so his name will become popular again. Maybe continue the trash talking as he is very effective on that, but as always, make sure he maintain himself fit and ready to fight.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Akaho - December 3
Post by: Shamm on October 22, 2022, 03:24:02 PM
I'm happy that he ain't gonna spend the rest of the year reflecting on what he had done in the past when he almost have the shot on undisputed title with Inoue. This is much better for him rather than forcing himself to shrink at a certain weight needed that he'll surely struggle. In this weight class, I hope have no issues because he needed to climb through the ranks if he still want to be a belt holder.

Should be no problem now on this weight division but hopefully, that gastritis won't ruin the fun here. That medical condition is unpredictable and Casimero can be hit with that anytime. But this time I think they are more prepared and during the time when they are almost close fighting against Paul Butler, he seems healthy at that point.

Casimero has no room for losing this match. If he loses here, I think it's better to just retire or people should not expect to him anymore.

He will not lose if he is healthy, prior to his disqualification in the Butler's match, we were expecting that he will win, in fact, he was the heavy favorite to win but unfortunate things happened and he was stripped of his belt. Now, he is coming back, and though it's not a big fight it's already good for a start, so I'm very optimistic that he will win here and he will start building his name again, that hype has to grow for him to have a big fight again.

I agree, he will not lose on this one as he is determined more than ever to show to the fans that Quadro Alas is one of the faces of Philippine boxing. Getting the weight is expected to be not a problem anymore so all he has to do now is train hard and be focused on the fight and don't think of the future fight with Inoue, one fight at a time.

Odds are not released yet but for sure Casimero would be the heavy favorite to win this one, I just hope that ring rust won't be an issue here as he is out of the ring for more than a year I think.

There should be no problem with his weight here as he already move higher, let's hope that he trained hard for this one because winning alone is not enough, he needs to win convincingly like a KO to be exact so his name will become popular again. Maybe continue the trash talking as he is very effective on that, but as always, make sure he maintain himself fit and ready to fight.

if he win by a KO then without a doubt he will be popular again in the world of baking and start a new journey.  But if not then it's will be okay but I think still not enough to get the crowd attention.
But in this fight I think casimero will win by a KO because he is hungry of winning and for he doubled his effort and trained harder for this upcoming fight to establish his name again bin the ring.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Akaho - December 3
Post by: mirakal on October 23, 2022, 02:21:32 PM
I'm happy that he ain't gonna spend the rest of the year reflecting on what he had done in the past when he almost have the shot on undisputed title with Inoue. This is much better for him rather than forcing himself to shrink at a certain weight needed that he'll surely struggle. In this weight class, I hope have no issues because he needed to climb through the ranks if he still want to be a belt holder.

Should be no problem now on this weight division but hopefully, that gastritis won't ruin the fun here. That medical condition is unpredictable and Casimero can be hit with that anytime. But this time I think they are more prepared and during the time when they are almost close fighting against Paul Butler, he seems healthy at that point.

Casimero has no room for losing this match. If he loses here, I think it's better to just retire or people should not expect to him anymore.

Well, if he is going to lose against this Akaho who also have nothing to lose then it is indeed much better to retire from the industry because he have nothing to prove. What more he can do in the upper ranks if he can't even defeat Ryö Akaho.

By now, as you said, he seems fit and healthy so that gastritis should be the least problem for them. AFAIK, gastritis is unpredicitable but it can be avoided by a proper diet and exercise. So keeping Casimero fit might do the trick.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Akaho - December 3
Post by: fortunecrypto on October 23, 2022, 03:28:32 PM
Only Casimero will beat himself if he is at the peak of his training he can beat just anybody, we like his arrogant because he can back himself with good performance in the ring, I have never seen a guy taunting his opponent while falling in the canvass, but that's how Casimero entertains us, if he shows his best form here we'll see another great Casimero performance.

He'll go for a knockout here he knows what is at stake here, and even though there is no title at stake, he needs to prove himself all over again.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Akaho - December 3
Post by: PX-Z on October 23, 2022, 03:30:14 PM
Casimero has no room for losing this match. If he loses here, I think it's better to just retire or people should not expect to him anymore.
Yes, fans will be expecting it from him, his previous fights were all win by KO or TKO aside from the win he get from the latest fight with Guillermo Rigondeaux, since Rigo is almost a counter puncher not a usually type of fight you will see for a pound for pound fight.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Akaho - December 3
Post by: Gosgosking on October 23, 2022, 03:54:54 PM
The fight won't be easy for the both fight,  the two men are strong fighters. The issue akaho has  is age, I don't know if age will a bareer for him not to be able to fight this fight.  Casimero is another rough fighter that I know he can challenge Akaho in this fight. I would like to see casimero how he will fight this match .


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Akaho - December 3
Post by: lionheart78 on October 23, 2022, 04:39:20 PM
Browsing Akaho's boxing records I found out that Akaho had beaten 5 Filipino via KO including his latest fight against Edrin Dapudong.  This Japanese boxer sounds like a Pinoy executioner, so it is quite interesting to see whether Casimero can break this streak of Akaho beating Filipino boxers.

The fight won't be easy for the both fight,  the two men are strong fighters. The issue akaho has  is age, I don't know if age will a bareer for him not to be able to fight this fight.  Casimero is another rough fighter that I know he can challenge Akaho in this fight. I would like to see casimero how he will fight this match .

There isn't much of an age gap here since Casimero is only 3 years old younger than Akaho, I also think that Akaho, at 36, is still at his prime since his latest 2 fights which happened this year gave him a win 1 UD, and the latest, against a Filipino boxer, a KO win.


Casimero has no room for losing this match. If he loses here, I think it's better to just retire or people should not expect to him anymore.

Casimero is still too young for retirement, though I agree that Casimero has no room for a loss in this match, or else he will be another piece to the Akaho Collection of beaten Filipino boxers.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Akaho - December 3
Post by: cryptomaniac_xxx on October 23, 2022, 05:14:46 PM
The fight won't be easy for the both fight,  the two men are strong fighters. The issue akaho has  is age, I don't know if age will a bareer for him not to be able to fight this fight.  Casimero is another rough fighter that I know he can challenge Akaho in this fight. I would like to see casimero how he will fight this match .

And probably that is the reason why Casimero chooses Akaho because he wanted a challenge, a tough fight to test himself in this new weight class.

@lionheart78 - thanks for the info, yeah it seems that Akaho had beaten a lot of Filipinos in the past. And it just shows that this two nation are really arch-rival in this weight categories. Might be sweet revenge for Casimero here if he can spin the storyboard in that sense.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Akaho - December 3
Post by: Kemarit on October 23, 2022, 05:36:08 PM
The fight won't be easy for the both fight,  the two men are strong fighters. The issue akaho has  is age, I don't know if age will a bareer for him not to be able to fight this fight.  Casimero is another rough fighter that I know he can challenge Akaho in this fight. I would like to see casimero how he will fight this match .

@lionheart78 - thanks for the info, yeah it seems that Akaho had beaten a lot of Filipinos in the past. And it just shows that this two nation are really arch-rival in this weight categories. Might be sweet revenge for Casimero here if he can spin the storyboard in that sense.

It's because they come from the same region and so their is rivalry between this 2 countries since way back when boxing was just starting. I still remember Penalosa, can't remember the weight class though, when he had like fight a Japanese which he can't really beat.

And so the rivalry still continues today with Akaho beating a lot of Filipinos. But most probably they could have been B level fighter. But this time it will be different as he is facing a world class Filipino champion in Casimero.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Akaho - December 3
Post by: Kasabus on October 24, 2022, 03:34:14 PM
Browsing Akaho's boxing records I found out that Akaho had beaten 5 Filipino via KO including his latest fight against Edrin Dapudong.  This Japanese boxer sounds like a Pinoy executioner, so it is quite interesting to see whether Casimero can break this streak of Akaho beating Filipino boxers.

The fight won't be easy for the both fight,  the two men are strong fighters. The issue akaho has  is age, I don't know if age will a bareer for him not to be able to fight this fight.  Casimero is another rough fighter that I know he can challenge Akaho in this fight. I would like to see casimero how he will fight this match .

There isn't much of an age gap here since Casimero is only 3 years old younger than Akaho, I also think that Akaho, at 36, is still at his prime since his latest 2 fights which happened this year gave him a win 1 UD, and the latest, against a Filipino boxer, a KO win.


Casimero has no room for losing this match. If he loses here, I think it's better to just retire or people should not expect to him anymore.

Casimero is still too young for retirement, though I agree that Casimero has no room for a loss in this match, or else he will be another piece to the Akaho Collection of beaten Filipino boxers.

Seeing Akaho's history, he is like a local Japanese boxing IMO who also fought in the world boxing industry way back 2015 but returned locally after he was defeated by a way of KO in just 2 rounds by a Thai boxer in his first WBO belt defense. Since that day, Akaho returned under Japan Boxing Commission (JBC) where he recently defeated a Filipino boxer, Dapudong, by a KO in just 1 round.

I see why he was chosen to be Casimero's opponent in his debut in 122 pounds, this is a test to see if Casimero still have what it takes to defeat the regular boxers in this division and maybe to end Akaho's streak in defeating his fellow Filipino boxers. Either way, Casimero needs to end this fight by a KO or TKO because it won't get him hyped if he'll just barely defeat Akaho in full 12 rounds.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Akaho - December 3
Post by: harizen on October 24, 2022, 10:56:55 PM
Casimero is still too young for retirement, though I agree that Casimero has no room for a loss in this match, or else he will be another piece to the Akaho Collection of beaten Filipino boxers.

But if ever Casimero loses this match, it just shows that likely, he doesn't have the skills and power to compete at the top rankings or a title match. Casimero is 32 years old and if he will experience continuous loss, it will just put him below rankings or the worst not even considered to be assigned now on any match. It's hard to climb on rank and that will take time as we are not even sure if Casimero can average 1-2 fights per year at the point of his career.

Anyways, let's not talk about the possibility of Casimero losing here because the winning probability for him is decent. However, upset does happen but unlikely not in this match. If this really ends up with Casimero losing this match, I should also say that he needs to hang his gloves now.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Akaho - December 3
Post by: Fredomago on October 24, 2022, 11:03:59 PM
Casimero is still too young for retirement, though I agree that Casimero has no room for a loss in this match, or else he will be another piece to the Akaho Collection of beaten Filipino boxers.

But if ever Casimero loses this match, it just shows that likely, he doesn't have the skills and power to compete at the top rankings or a title match. Casimero is 32 years old and if he will experience continuous loss, it will just put him below rankings or the worst not even considered to be assigned now on any match. It's hard to climb on rank and that will take time as we are not even sure if Casimero can average 1-2 fights per year at the point of his career.

Anyways, let's not talk about the possibility of Casimero losing here because the winning probability for him is decent. However, upset does happen but unlikely not in this match. If this really ends up with Casimero losing this match, I should also say that he needs to hang his gloves now.

Most likely he will be here to try his very winning this fight to pursue his fresh career from this division, Casimero is still young and still in his prime, just need to have a good execution from his fighting strategy, I can say that his winning chance is decent and with his boxing attitude, he will try everything to win and to achieved something after deciding to climb up.

A good start to create noise in his name. If he wins this fight, it will be sure that he will get a decent offer for a new money fight.

For now, let's focus on this fight and hope for the best!


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Akaho - December 3
Post by: goinmerry on October 24, 2022, 11:33:58 PM
As far as I know his medical condition last year in December was now being controlled and since this is super bantamweight, Casimero should also not have a problem with weight. If I'm not mistaken he was 10 lbs over the required weight during the supposed Butler match.

If ever he's still playing at that weight, burning around 5 lbs should not be a problem for him before the official weigh-in of this match. Casimero although inactive on the ring for some issues he faced, should not show any ring rust, especially on this opponent.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Akaho - December 3
Post by: peter0425 on October 25, 2022, 04:01:07 AM
looking at their boxing record, it seems that Akaho is at advantage, he is taller than Casimero and has a farther reach than him, he is older than Casimero though, I wonder if his age will affect him throughout the match. anyway, it's my first time hearing about Akaho and has no clue how he fights. it will be interesting how Casimero will handle himself against him.
But casimero's heart will dictate the fight mate, I have watched Him fight several times and I can see in His eyes how dedication to win , though his mouth talks a lot things that I hate in boxer.

Akaho is in advantage but I doubt that he can easily defeat the Filipino Boxer .



If ever he's still playing at that weight, burning around 5 lbs should not be a problem for him before the official weigh-in of this match. Casimero although inactive on the ring for some issues he faced, should not show any ring rust, especially on this opponent.
well 5 lbs is not that big to lose as he still has almost 2 months to drop that weight , and also the movement is not that in effect because this is a basic weight loss.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Akaho - December 3
Post by: samcrypto on October 25, 2022, 04:31:22 AM
As far as I know his medical condition last year in December was now being controlled and since this is super bantamweight, Casimero should also not have a problem with weight. If I'm not mistaken he was 10 lbs over the required weight during the supposed Butler match.

If ever he's still playing at that weight, burning around 5 lbs should not be a problem for him before the official weigh-in of this match. Casimero although inactive on the ring for some issues he faced, should not show any ring rust, especially on this opponent.
His team should control this guy from gaining too much weight and force him to stay within the required range, or else this match will be cancelled as well and this might put his career more at risk. Casimero needs to commit on this, he should focus on his goal instead of other things, this match will not be easy for him so better to do all out and stay focus. His behavior are also important, he needs to address that.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Akaho - December 3
Post by: Yaunfitda on October 25, 2022, 10:45:59 AM
As far as I know his medical condition last year in December was now being controlled and since this is super bantamweight, Casimero should also not have a problem with weight. If I'm not mistaken he was 10 lbs over the required weight during the supposed Butler match.
Yeah, and the control is not that hard since this is 122 lbs already, as opposed to 118 lbs wherein he really have to lose a lot of that extra pounds if he comes in or walking around 130 lbs.

If ever he's still playing at that weight, burning around 5 lbs should not be a problem for him before the official weigh-in of this match. Casimero although inactive on the ring for some issues he faced, should not show any ring rust, especially on this opponent.
If he has really a good team, then they don't have to wait till the actual weigh in to burn that excess weight. They should be at least in target days before the actual weigh in so that it won't put a strain on his body trying to lose that baggage in his body. No need to go to sauna.  :)


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Akaho - December 3
Post by: inthelongrun on October 25, 2022, 11:36:18 AM
Wow! I didn't know Ryo Akaho is now promoted by a Korean. Ryo Akaho is already 36 years old but he is not to be taken for granted by the inactive and moving up in weight Johnreil Casimero. And the venue might be neutral but it is still Akaho's promoter staging the event. Akaho is also on a 13 fight win streak. I think Casimero is undersized at 122. He may be able to beat Akaho but he will be an underdog to the WBA/IBF champion Morudjon Akhmadaliev and WBO/WBC champion Stephen Fulton. But it is good that Casimero is back, I hope he stays focus and win in an impressive fashion in order to generate a good ranking in his new division.   


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Akaho - December 3
Post by: mirakal on October 25, 2022, 05:29:24 PM
Casimero is still too young for retirement, though I agree that Casimero has no room for a loss in this match, or else he will be another piece to the Akaho Collection of beaten Filipino boxers.

But if ever Casimero loses this match, it just shows that likely, he doesn't have the skills and power to compete at the top rankings or a title match. Casimero is 32 years old and if he will experience continuous loss, it will just put him below rankings or the worst not even considered to be assigned now on any match. It's hard to climb on rank and that will take time as we are not even sure if Casimero can average 1-2 fights per year at the point of his career.

Anyways, let's not talk about the possibility of Casimero losing here because the winning probability for him is decent. However, upset does happen but unlikely not in this match. If this really ends up with Casimero losing this match, I should also say that he needs to hang his gloves now.

Speaking of Casimero if he'll get defeated this time although it's very unlikely to happen, just like you said. But if in case that happens, I don't think he have a future in this industry anymore because where will he go next? Bantamweight doesn't fight him as he'll be having the same issues again and in the upper weight class, he can't give some troubles, so it's much better for him to retire. But just like we said, it's very unlikely, especially now that he himself is looking to bounce back to redeem his name again.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Akaho - December 3
Post by: Latviand on October 25, 2022, 08:49:47 PM
Finally it's been officially announced that Johnriel Casimero's comeback fight vs Akaho will be this coming December 3 at the Paradise City in Incheon South Korea as what Akaho's promoter announced.

TBH, with Casimero in the mix on the Philippine boxing is an exciting one because of his personality or how he handles himself going into a fight. Some would say that he is cocky but if you dig deeper into him, it is just how he mentally plays his opponent.

https://i.imgur.com/F0nGATD.png
ctto

https://www.gmanetwork.com/news/sports/boxing/848308/casimero-vs-akaho-announced-for-december-3/story/
The Filipino boxer, Johnriel Casimero is currently the 2nd ranked bantamweight vs  Akaho, all known as a knockout puncher currently with have long winstreak in his boxing career. This will be a close fight since the fighters are same knockout specialist and their strategies on fighting will be the key of the victory. Akaho is the Goliath of this fight since he is in the peak of his career and also  the condition of his body are good than Casimero who just comeback on the boxing ring.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Akaho - December 3
Post by: PX-Z on October 25, 2022, 10:55:33 PM
The Filipino boxer, Johnriel Casimero is currently the 2nd ranked bantamweight
I won't call him yet with that, he just drop his WBO title due to his long inactivity and condition. If you were referring him as 2nd rank in all bantamweight division it's still far from the truth he is not even rank in the rank 2 WBO title base on here[1], plus his opponent now is not even ranked in the top 10 of all  weight division, so he really should win it or else its time for him to resign.

[1] https://box.live/world-rankings/bantamweight/


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Akaho - December 3
Post by: carlisle1 on October 26, 2022, 09:51:23 AM
Casimero is still too young for retirement, though I agree that Casimero has no room for a loss in this match, or else he will be another piece to the Akaho Collection of beaten Filipino boxers.

But if ever Casimero loses this match, it just shows that likely, he doesn't have the skills and power to compete at the top rankings or a title match. Casimero is 32 years old and if he will experience continuous loss, it will just put him below rankings or the worst not even considered to be assigned now on any match. It's hard to climb on rank and that will take time as we are not even sure if Casimero can average 1-2 fights per year at the point of his career.

Anyways, let's not talk about the possibility of Casimero losing here because the winning probability for him is decent. However, upset does happen but unlikely not in this match. If this really ends up with Casimero losing this match, I should also say that he needs to hang his gloves now.

Speaking of Casimero if he'll get defeated this time although it's very unlikely to happen, just like you said. But if in case that happens, I don't think he have a future in this industry anymore because where will he go next? Bantamweight doesn't fight him as he'll be having the same issues again and in the upper weight class, he can't give some troubles, so it's much better for him to retire. But just like we said, it's very unlikely, especially now that he himself is looking to bounce back to redeem his name again.


He needed to win if he wanted to continue his journey from this sport. If he loses this one, it might be the end of his career. Maybe he will just continue working with his YouTube channel and try to make money from it.

But on a serious note, Casimero should win this with a great passion to make sure that he will get more money fight and also a chance to chase for the title match, still far though but for sure it's also part of the plan for him to regain his popularity and make more money from this sport.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Akaho - December 3
Post by: btc78 on October 26, 2022, 10:20:34 AM
is the vote real? that is landslide? voting 19 out of 20 for casimero ? is this how popular this boxer in our days now? well I also voted for him and i love it seeing another Filipino Boxer to take step forward to what Manny Pacquiao had already attain.
but the problem here is that about Casimero having no activities these past months , maybe he needs more exposure and open training for more popularization , this will add confidence for Him to win this fight.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Akaho - December 3
Post by: Jating on October 26, 2022, 10:26:45 AM
is the vote real? that is landslide? voting 19 out of 20 for casimero ? is this how popular this boxer in our days now? well I also voted for him and i love it seeing another Filipino Boxer to take step forward to what Manny Pacquiao had already attain.

John Riel is more popular boxer as compare to Akaho, majority of us never heard of him before. He might be good, but he is not on our radar. As compare to Casimero who has been tearing the division winner the belt and knocking down his opponent. It's just very unfortunate that we will not see him fight the Monster.

but the problem here is that about Casimero having no activities these past months , maybe he needs more exposure and open training for more popularization , this will add confidence for Him to win this fight.

Ring rust, everyone has to go to this. It's just a matter on how boxers are going to shake it off. And most likely, when Casimero's experience, he might likely start slow in this fight but eventually find his rhythm and this could end up to be a very good fight to watch as this could be war in his first fight at 122 lbs.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Akaho - December 3
Post by: Natalim on October 26, 2022, 12:09:13 PM

Ring rust, everyone has to go to this. It's just a matter on how boxers are going to shake it off. And most likely, when Casimero's experience, he might likely start slow in this fight but eventually find his rhythm and this could end up to be a very good fight to watch as this could be war in his first fight at 122 lbs.

Nah, Casimero understands that a win here is his ticket for the next big fight, he was off for a while but he is still hungry for a win since he did not actually lose in a fight, he just got stripped with his belt which I believe he regretted his mistake. His comeback fight is something we should not miss to see if that fire in him is still there as he needed that to have a chance to face Inoue in the future.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Akaho - December 3
Post by: Kemarit on October 27, 2022, 05:48:39 AM

Ring rust, everyone has to go to this. It's just a matter on how boxers are going to shake it off. And most likely, when Casimero's experience, he might likely start slow in this fight but eventually find his rhythm and this could end up to be a very good fight to watch as this could be war in his first fight at 122 lbs.

Nah, Casimero understands that a win here is his ticket for the next big fight, he was off for a while but he is still hungry for a win since he did not actually lose in a fight, he just got stripped with his belt which I believe he regretted his mistake. His comeback fight is something we should not miss to see if that fire in him is still there as he needed that to have a chance to face Inoue in the future.

Yes, I think the motivation and the hungry is still in the belly of Casimero. You are right that he didn't lose any fight or his belt, it's just he can't make the desired weight at 118 lbs.

So he will have be extra motivated in this new weight class, he will for sure look for the likes of Inoue if he decided to jump on this division or the current champion. Although there could be argument that he might be too small at 122 lbs but we will see if his power will be enough in this new division.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Akaho - December 3
Post by: Fredomago on October 27, 2022, 10:19:02 AM

Ring rust, everyone has to go to this. It's just a matter on how boxers are going to shake it off. And most likely, when Casimero's experience, he might likely start slow in this fight but eventually find his rhythm and this could end up to be a very good fight to watch as this could be war in his first fight at 122 lbs.

Nah, Casimero understands that a win here is his ticket for the next big fight, he was off for a while but he is still hungry for a win since he did not actually lose in a fight, he just got stripped with his belt which I believe he regretted his mistake. His comeback fight is something we should not miss to see if that fire in him is still there as he needed that to have a chance to face Inoue in the future.

He needed that boost to make his name on this new division, a win will be the ticket for him to bring the hype back under his name, he was a former champ from the last division he fight with, returning inside the ring with new challenges and with that mentality that you really didn't lose a fight but due to not maintaining your weight you got strip, I'm sure he will be in a mission in winning this fight.

He will use this opportunity to make a noise for his name and attract handlers and promoters to bring him good money to fight under this new division.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Akaho - December 3
Post by: Jating on October 27, 2022, 11:18:57 AM

Ring rust, everyone has to go to this. It's just a matter on how boxers are going to shake it off. And most likely, when Casimero's experience, he might likely start slow in this fight but eventually find his rhythm and this could end up to be a very good fight to watch as this could be war in his first fight at 122 lbs.

Nah, Casimero understands that a win here is his ticket for the next big fight, he was off for a while but he is still hungry for a win since he did not actually lose in a fight, he just got stripped with his belt which I believe he regretted his mistake. His comeback fight is something we should not miss to see if that fire in him is still there as he needed that to have a chance to face Inoue in the future.

I'm not saying that he is not hungry or what, but he has been out in the ring for sometime and I will say that he wanted to stay active and force himself to fight this year even if it is close to the end of the year. It's because generally boxers doesn't want to have ring rust, so it's understandable on his part to fight late.

Of course, he knows that this is very important to him, so if ever he experience some ring rust, he just have to overcome and shake it because he can't afford to lose this one in his comeback fight in a new division. And maybe his target is still Inoue specially Naoya wanted to go up after his fight against Butler.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Akaho - December 3
Post by: mirakal on October 27, 2022, 05:03:29 PM
Casimero is still too young for retirement, though I agree that Casimero has no room for a loss in this match, or else he will be another piece to the Akaho Collection of beaten Filipino boxers.

But if ever Casimero loses this match, it just shows that likely, he doesn't have the skills and power to compete at the top rankings or a title match. Casimero is 32 years old and if he will experience continuous loss, it will just put him below rankings or the worst not even considered to be assigned now on any match. It's hard to climb on rank and that will take time as we are not even sure if Casimero can average 1-2 fights per year at the point of his career.

Anyways, let's not talk about the possibility of Casimero losing here because the winning probability for him is decent. However, upset does happen but unlikely not in this match. If this really ends up with Casimero losing this match, I should also say that he needs to hang his gloves now.

Speaking of Casimero if he'll get defeated this time although it's very unlikely to happen, just like you said. But if in case that happens, I don't think he have a future in this industry anymore because where will he go next? Bantamweight doesn't fight him as he'll be having the same issues again and in the upper weight class, he can't give some troubles, so it's much better for him to retire. But just like we said, it's very unlikely, especially now that he himself is looking to bounce back to redeem his name again.


He needed to win if he wanted to continue his journey from this sport. If he loses this one, it might be the end of his career. Maybe he will just continue working with his YouTube channel and try to make money from it.

But on a serious note, Casimero should win this with a great passion to make sure that he will get more money fight and also a chance to chase for the title match, still far though but for sure it's also part of the plan for him to regain his popularity and make more money from this sport.


Not just an ordinary win, what he needed is a stoppage or at least we will see that he is not having some struggles fighting Ryo Akaho because he can't possibly defeat the champions in super-bantam if he is already struggling to defeat Akaho. Nevertheless, I still believe that he can redeem his name this time, he knew for sure what he have to do.

Casimero's YouTube channel won't be that profitable anymore if he will get defeated and retire in the boxing industry because majority of his viewers in that channel just want to what's he up to and to get some informations on his whereabouts that is connected in boxing. So, retiring means that goodbye viewers too.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Akaho - December 3
Post by: Kasabus on October 28, 2022, 04:57:54 PM
is the vote real? that is landslide? voting 19 out of 20 for casimero ? is this how popular this boxer in our days now? well I also voted for him and i love it seeing another Filipino Boxer to take step forward to what Manny Pacquiao had already attain.
but the problem here is that about Casimero having no activities these past months , maybe he needs more exposure and open training for more popularization , this will add confidence for Him to win this fight.

That is for sure, did you expect the opposite thing? ;D kidding!

That is expected because Casimero is more famous than Akaho, I bet this is the first time we've heard Akaho's name in this forum and if you look on Akaho's history and credentials, you'll know that he is more of a local boxer rather than international type. Both of them wanted this fight, Casimero is fighting to redeem his name after all he experienced recently and Akaho is fighting to get the exposure he needed as Casimero will be his key to have a profitable fights in the future.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Akaho - December 3
Post by: Baofeng on October 28, 2022, 07:00:34 PM
is the vote real? that is landslide? voting 19 out of 20 for casimero ? is this how popular this boxer in our days now? well I also voted for him and i love it seeing another Filipino Boxer to take step forward to what Manny Pacquiao had already attain.
but the problem here is that about Casimero having no activities these past months , maybe he needs more exposure and open training for more popularization , this will add confidence for Him to win this fight.

That is for sure, did you expect the opposite thing? ;D kidding!

That is expected because Casimero is more famous than Akaho, I bet this is the first time we've heard Akaho's name in this forum and if you look on Akaho's history and credentials, you'll know that he is more of a local boxer rather than international type. Both of them wanted this fight, Casimero is fighting to redeem his name after all he experienced recently and Akaho is fighting to get the exposure he needed as Casimero will be his key to have a profitable fights in the future.

Good point, yes both boxers will benefit winning against each other, for Casimero, Akaho might present a tough fight for him in his new division. And in paper, Akaho has a good record specialy against Pinoys.

On the other hand, Akaho is trying to break into the spot, maybe just enough for him to be a legitimate contender or could have been given a chance to crack at the belt if he win against Casimero.

But in the end we wanted for Casimero to win this fight so that he will give noticed to this new division that someone wanted to enter. And then hopefully we will still see him vs Inoue in the future.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Akaho - December 3
Post by: harizen on October 28, 2022, 08:01:19 PM
is the vote real? that is landslide? voting 19 out of 20 for casimero ? is this how popular this boxer in our days now?

The landslide vote on the poll it's not just because of the popularity. It's clear that Casimero's credential is far better than Akaho. Casimero is also a former WBO Bantamweight Champion and if only he takes care of everything, he might be the one facing the Japanese Top Bantamweight Naoya Inoue in the unification bout and not Paul Butler.

Moving forward, the age factor might also play a big role for Akaho. He is now entering the considered veteran age for boxers and even though he's currently on the winning hot streak, there's no considered big name on those who defeated.

Casimero has no choice but to win here if he still wants to climb again at the rankings. However, if ever the situation is being favored to him on his way up, I doubt he can match against the current champions at the super bantamweight.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Akaho - December 3
Post by: mirakal on October 29, 2022, 02:37:10 PM
is the vote real? that is landslide? voting 19 out of 20 for casimero ? is this how popular this boxer in our days now? well I also voted for him and i love it seeing another Filipino Boxer to take step forward to what Manny Pacquiao had already attain.
but the problem here is that about Casimero having no activities these past months , maybe he needs more exposure and open training for more popularization , this will add confidence for Him to win this fight.

That is for sure, did you expect the opposite thing? ;D kidding!

That is expected because Casimero is more famous than Akaho, I bet this is the first time we've heard Akaho's name in this forum and if you look on Akaho's history and credentials, you'll know that he is more of a local boxer rather than international type. Both of them wanted this fight, Casimero is fighting to redeem his name after all he experienced recently and Akaho is fighting to get the exposure he needed as Casimero will be his key to have a profitable fights in the future.

Good point, yes both boxers will benefit winning against each other, for Casimero, Akaho might present a tough fight for him in his new division. And in paper, Akaho has a good record specialy against Pinoys.

On the other hand, Akaho is trying to break into the spot, maybe just enough for him to be a legitimate contender or could have been given a chance to crack at the belt if he win against Casimero.

But in the end we wanted for Casimero to win this fight so that he will give noticed to this new division that someone wanted to enter. And then hopefully we will still see him vs Inoue in the future.

I guess Casimero is looking forward to achieve two goals in front of this Ryo Akaho, first is to have his name back in the industry and the second goal is to avenge all the Filipino boxers that Akaho defeated in the process. This is a good fight and it's not that too cherry-picked fight in my perspective because Akaho is also a decent boxer and a good test for Casimero.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Akaho - December 3
Post by: Shamm on October 29, 2022, 02:48:47 PM
is the vote real? that is landslide? voting 19 out of 20 for casimero ? is this how popular this boxer in our days now? well I also voted for him and i love it seeing another Filipino Boxer to take step forward to what Manny Pacquiao had already attain.
but the problem here is that about Casimero having no activities these past months , maybe he needs more exposure and open training for more popularization , this will add confidence for Him to win this fight.

That is for sure, did you expect the opposite thing? ;D kidding!

That is expected because Casimero is more famous than Akaho, I bet this is the first time we've heard Akaho's name in this forum and if you look on Akaho's history and credentials, you'll know that he is more of a local boxer rather than international type. Both of them wanted this fight, Casimero is fighting to redeem his name after all he experienced recently and Akaho is fighting to get the exposure he needed as Casimero will be his key to have a profitable fights in the future.

Good point, yes both boxers will benefit winning against each other, for Casimero, Akaho might present a tough fight for him in his new division. And in paper, Akaho has a good record specialy against Pinoys.

On the other hand, Akaho is trying to break into the spot, maybe just enough for him to be a legitimate contender or could have been given a chance to crack at the belt if he win against Casimero.

But in the end we wanted for Casimero to win this fight so that he will give noticed to this new division that someone wanted to enter. And then hopefully we will still see him vs Inoue in the future.

I guess Casimero is looking forward to achieve two goals in front of this Ryo Akaho, first is to have his name back in the industry and the second goal is to avenge all the Filipino boxers that Akaho defeated in the process. This is a good fight and it's not that too cherry-picked fight in my perspective because Akaho is also a decent boxer and a good test for Casimero.

Yes I am agree with this mate and also casimero will do it as we all know that casimero is aiming once again his name back to the crowd and for the titles also. Then once casimero will win in this fight then the crowds or fans will slowly get to normal and also if casimero will win then there's a chance to face inoue once again and I do hope that fight will happen as soon as possible.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Akaho - December 3
Post by: Hypnosis00 on October 29, 2022, 03:21:37 PM

I guess Casimero is looking forward to achieve two goals in front of this Ryo Akaho, first is to have his name back in the industry and the second goal is to avenge all the Filipino boxers that Akaho defeated in the process. This is a good fight and it's not that too cherry-picked fight in my perspective because Akaho is also a decent boxer and a good test for Casimero.

I don't know that Ryo Akaho has defeated many Filipino boxers, I thought he is not a good boxer. Well, now that I know about that, I hope Casimero will knock him down so he will get an impressive win. I have not seen Casimero have a close fight anymore as his last fight was boring which was against Guillermo Rigondeaux.

Hopefully this one is going to be exciting, a toe to toe fight is worth watching as always.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Akaho - December 3
Post by: btc_angela on October 29, 2022, 05:32:39 PM

I guess Casimero is looking forward to achieve two goals in front of this Ryo Akaho, first is to have his name back in the industry and the second goal is to avenge all the Filipino boxers that Akaho defeated in the process. This is a good fight and it's not that too cherry-picked fight in my perspective because Akaho is also a decent boxer and a good test for Casimero.

I don't know that Ryo Akaho has defeated many Filipino boxers, I thought he is not a good boxer. Well, now that I know about that, I hope Casimero will knock him down so he will get an impressive win. I have not seen Casimero have a close fight anymore as his last fight was boring which was against Guillermo Rigondeaux.

There are a lot of Filipino boxers hoping to get a chance to break into the world scene. So maybe what Akaho beat is not the top tier of PH boxers? Casimero is known to go and look for either KO/TKO so for sure in this new weight category, he wants to get a impressive win.

Hopefully this one is going to be exciting, a toe to toe fight is worth watching as always.

If Akaho is willing to go toe to toe against a hard punching like Casimero then it will be a war. But if he taste that power and he doesn't like it, then maybe he will curl up and Casimero will do the chasing all throughout the fight.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Akaho - December 3
Post by: carlisle1 on October 30, 2022, 04:43:26 PM

I guess Casimero is looking forward to achieve two goals in front of this Ryo Akaho, first is to have his name back in the industry and the second goal is to avenge all the Filipino boxers that Akaho defeated in the process. This is a good fight and it's not that too cherry-picked fight in my perspective because Akaho is also a decent boxer and a good test for Casimero.

I don't know that Ryo Akaho has defeated many Filipino boxers, I thought he is not a good boxer. Well, now that I know about that, I hope Casimero will knock him down so he will get an impressive win. I have not seen Casimero have a close fight anymore as his last fight was boring which was against Guillermo Rigondeaux.

Hopefully this one is going to be exciting, a toe to toe fight is worth watching as always.

It will be more interesting if both fighters will exchange solid punches and both fighters will not be afraid in a toe-to-toe engagements.

I remember that last fight of Casimero from his former division, it was a boring fight because Rigo is not willing to engage just keep running.

Looking to see that with that impression about Akaho he will be more on aggressive side aiming to beat Casimero with a convincing KO.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Akaho - December 3
Post by: Japinat on October 30, 2022, 04:55:41 PM

I guess Casimero is looking forward to achieve two goals in front of this Ryo Akaho, first is to have his name back in the industry and the second goal is to avenge all the Filipino boxers that Akaho defeated in the process. This is a good fight and it's not that too cherry-picked fight in my perspective because Akaho is also a decent boxer and a good test for Casimero.

I don't know that Ryo Akaho has defeated many Filipino boxers, I thought he is not a good boxer. Well, now that I know about that, I hope Casimero will knock him down so he will get an impressive win. I have not seen Casimero have a close fight anymore as his last fight was boring which was against Guillermo Rigondeaux.

There are a lot of Filipino boxers hoping to get a chance to break into the world scene. So maybe what Akaho beat is not the top tier of PH boxers? Casimero is known to go and look for either KO/TKO so for sure in this new weight category, he wants to get a impressive win.

Hopefully this one is going to be exciting, a toe to toe fight is worth watching as always.

If Akaho is willing to go toe to toe against a hard punching like Casimero then it will be a war. But if he taste that power and he doesn't like it, then maybe he will curl up and Casimero will do the chasing all throughout the fight.

That is probably the case because if those said Filipinos were strong enough when they faced Akaho then they won't be defeated and it is really true that there's a lot of Filipino boxers who are hoping to get their most awaited break but only few got the right skills to be known. In short, not everyone was born to be a boxer.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Akaho - December 3
Post by: serjent05 on October 30, 2022, 05:25:31 PM
It will be more interesting if both fighters will exchange solid punches and both fighters will not be afraid in a toe-to-toe engagements.

I think Akaho isn't afraid of fighting Casimero in a toe to toe engagement.  I think Akaho is confident that he can beat Casimero since he has already beaten many Filipinos and all of them by way of KO.

I remember that last fight of Casimero from his former division, it was a boring fight because Rigo is not willing to engage just keep running.

If I can recall the fight, Casimero is having a hard time hitting Rigondeaux and Rigondeaux  doesn't look like to throw

Looking to see that with that impression about Akaho he will be more on aggressive side aiming to beat Casimero with a convincing KO.

Or possibly Casimero would be aggressive in this fight since it is possible that Casimero wanted to break the series of winning of Akaho against the Filipino boxers.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Akaho - December 3
Post by: Fredomago on October 30, 2022, 09:27:57 PM
is the vote real? that is landslide? voting 19 out of 20 for casimero ? is this how popular this boxer in our days now? well I also voted for him and i love it seeing another Filipino Boxer to take step forward to what Manny Pacquiao had already attain.
but the problem here is that about Casimero having no activities these past months , maybe he needs more exposure and open training for more popularization , this will add confidence for Him to win this fight.

That is for sure, did you expect the opposite thing? ;D kidding!

That is expected because Casimero is more famous than Akaho, I bet this is the first time we've heard Akaho's name in this forum and if you look on Akaho's history and credentials, you'll know that he is more of a local boxer rather than international type. Both of them wanted this fight, Casimero is fighting to redeem his name after all he experienced recently and Akaho is fighting to get the exposure he needed as Casimero will be his key to have a profitable fights in the future.

Both are after with the money for sure, and with how you describe it, both have good reasons to win. Casimero is trying to rebuild his boxing reputation even he is starting from scratch now, while Akaho is trying to use Casimero's former fame to gather hypes in his career, the outcome will bring them to good next money fight.

First, they needed to accomplish, or rather better to say established, a KO win or a dominating win from this fight.

After that, we never know what kind of challenges the winner will proceed.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Akaho - December 3
Post by: harizen on October 30, 2022, 11:42:37 PM
I think Akaho isn't afraid of fighting Casimero in a toe to toe engagement.  I think Akaho is confident that he can beat Casimero since he has already beaten many Filipinos and all of them by way of KO.

We have to consider that those PH boxers that ended up losing at the hands of Akaho are not even in Casimero's league or even close.

Therefore, this fight against Quadro Alas shouldn't be a problem.

Besides, Akaho, even active in the ring, is now at the point of being considered in a veteran age period and way past his prime.

Or possibly Casimero would be aggressive in this fight since it is possible that Casimero wanted to break the series of winning of Akaho against the Filipino boxers.

That should be, he should be aggressive and I'm expecting he will really be like that as fo sure he's excited to come back.

And no, I doubt he has the purpose to win just to cut the winning series of Akaho against PH boxers.

He is saving his career here and that's the big reason he needs to win.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Akaho - December 3
Post by: chaser15 on October 30, 2022, 11:57:14 PM
First, they needed to accomplish, or rather better to say established, a KO win or a dominating win from this fight.

For sure they already know that and just doing their best to win. Both need some winning sequences in order to have a decent payout on their future fights.

But between them, Casimero really badly needed a win in order to regain himself.

If he loses here, no way he can meet Inoue now in the future.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Akaho - December 3
Post by: agustina2 on October 30, 2022, 11:58:31 PM

Ring rust, everyone has to go to this. It's just a matter on how boxers are going to shake it off. And most likely, when Casimero's experience, he might likely start slow in this fight but eventually find his rhythm and this could end up to be a very good fight to watch as this could be war in his first fight at 122 lbs.

Nah, Casimero understands that a win here is his ticket for the next big fight, he was off for a while but he is still hungry for a win since he did not actually lose in a fight, he just got stripped with his belt which I believe he regretted his mistake. His comeback fight is something we should not miss to see if that fire in him is still there as he needed that to have a chance to face Inoue in the future.

Yes, I think the motivation and the hungry is still in the belly of Casimero. You are right that he didn't lose any fight or his belt, it's just he can't make the desired weight at 118 lbs.

So he will have be extra motivated in this new weight class, he will for sure look for the likes of Inoue if he decided to jump on this division or the current champion. Although there could be argument that he might be too small at 122 lbs but we will see if his power will be enough in this new division.

After being stripped of his WBO belt, unable to fight because of his medical condition, being suspended on his defense fight, and having nothin else left, Casimero is really hungry and more motivated to get the job done right. This is his opportunity to somehow climb again at the ranks and compete for the championship title.

But unfortunately, lots of big monsters are now in the super bantamweight and if Inoue will moved up to, another big challenge for Casimero if ever he can now be considered to fight against those on the top of the rankings.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Akaho - December 3
Post by: btc78 on October 31, 2022, 12:36:32 AM
is the vote real? that is landslide? voting 19 out of 20 for casimero ? is this how popular this boxer in our days now? well I also voted for him and i love it seeing another Filipino Boxer to take step forward to what Manny Pacquiao had already attain.
but the problem here is that about Casimero having no activities these past months , maybe he needs more exposure and open training for more popularization , this will add confidence for Him to win this fight.

That is for sure, did you expect the opposite thing? ;D kidding!
hahaha , of course not as I am Casimero's Fan also  ;D

and also why someone will put their trust when it is obvious that He is the favorite in this fight.

Quote
That is expected because Casimero is more famous than Akaho, I bet this is the first time we've heard Akaho's name in this forum and if you look on Akaho's history and credentials, you'll know that he is more of a local boxer rather than international type. Both of them wanted this fight, Casimero is fighting to redeem his name after all he experienced recently and Akaho is fighting to get the exposure he needed as Casimero will be his key to have a profitable fights in the future.
Actually it is not about popularity mate but it is about how they have proven themselves in ring and that is how Casimero prove him as popular all these years.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Akaho - December 3
Post by: AmoreJaz on October 31, 2022, 05:12:13 AM
is the vote real? that is landslide? voting 19 out of 20 for casimero ? is this how popular this boxer in our days now? well I also voted for him and i love it seeing another Filipino Boxer to take step forward to what Manny Pacquiao had already attain.
but the problem here is that about Casimero having no activities these past months , maybe he needs more exposure and open training for more popularization , this will add confidence for Him to win this fight.

That is for sure, did you expect the opposite thing? ;D kidding!
hahaha , of course not as I am Casimero's Fan also  ;D

and also why someone will put their trust when it is obvious that He is the favorite in this fight.

Quote
That is expected because Casimero is more famous than Akaho, I bet this is the first time we've heard Akaho's name in this forum and if you look on Akaho's history and credentials, you'll know that he is more of a local boxer rather than international type. Both of them wanted this fight, Casimero is fighting to redeem his name after all he experienced recently and Akaho is fighting to get the exposure he needed as Casimero will be his key to have a profitable fights in the future.
Actually it is not about popularity mate but it is about how they have proven themselves in ring and that is how Casimero prove him as popular all these years.

i can agree that casimero has boxing skills. but when he failed to get a fight with inoue many times, i guess some of his boxing fans got disappointed. after all the trash talks and long discussions that we have here when it comes to casimero, most of his fights didn't happen and so this upcoming fight is being anticipated by his fans. hopefully, he will not cancel in the last minute.
casimero's name rings a bell more than akaho. so high likely that casimero will be the favourite here, even by the bookies.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Akaho - December 3
Post by: Ziskinberg on October 31, 2022, 07:50:03 AM

i can agree that casimero has boxing skills. but when he failed to get a fight with inoue many times, i guess some of his boxing fans got disappointed.

His fans is disappointed on Inoue not him because he was always ready to face Inoue when he was still a champion but Inoue choose to fight Donaire instead of him. Inoue loss his title because of an offense, but if he was still a champ, I doubt Inoue would go for an undisputed fight with him.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Akaho - December 3
Post by: Questat on October 31, 2022, 01:52:35 PM

i can agree that casimero has boxing skills. but when he failed to get a fight with inoue many times, i guess some of his boxing fans got disappointed.

His fans is disappointed on Inoue not him because he was always ready to face Inoue when he was still a champion but Inoue choose to fight Donaire instead of him. Inoue loss his title because of an offense, but if he was still a champ, I doubt Inoue would go for an undisputed fight with him.

You are maybe right but Casimero was not careful enough because made a mistake that cost him his belt and he losses that opportunity to fight Inoue. If Inoue was making an excuse, then he should be happy because of what happen to Casimero, but, if he will move up in weight and will meet Casimero, then we can still see a good fight between the Monster and Quadro Alas.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Akaho - December 3
Post by: Fredomago on October 31, 2022, 03:29:15 PM

i can agree that casimero has boxing skills. but when he failed to get a fight with inoue many times, i guess some of his boxing fans got disappointed.

His fans is disappointed on Inoue not him because he was always ready to face Inoue when he was still a champion but Inoue choose to fight Donaire instead of him. Inoue loss his title because of an offense, but if he was still a champ, I doubt Inoue would go for an undisputed fight with him.

You are maybe right but Casimero was not careful enough because made a mistake that cost him his belt and he losses that opportunity to fight Inoue. If Inoue was making an excuse, then he should be happy because of what happen to Casimero, but, if he will move up in weight and will meet Casimero, then we can still see a good fight between the Monster and Quadro Alas.

The chance to see them inside the same ring still possible, after Inoue gather all the belts from his current division the chance that he will move to the next level is an option for him, a privilege like what Canelo did challenging Bivol, if so happen that Inoue manage to snatch the belt from that next level, Casimero will have a good chance meeting him if he will keep winning his way.

Still optimistic that both fighters will meet and fight, though still depend on the outcome of their upcoming fights and if how the promoters will take care of this business,.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Akaho - December 3
Post by: Kasabus on October 31, 2022, 03:38:31 PM

i can agree that casimero has boxing skills. but when he failed to get a fight with inoue many times, i guess some of his boxing fans got disappointed.

His fans is disappointed on Inoue not him because he was always ready to face Inoue when he was still a champion but Inoue choose to fight Donaire instead of him. Inoue loss his title because of an offense, but if he was still a champ, I doubt Inoue would go for an undisputed fight with him.

You are maybe right but Casimero was not careful enough because made a mistake that cost him his belt and he losses that opportunity to fight Inoue. If Inoue was making an excuse, then he should be happy because of what happen to Casimero, but, if he will move up in weight and will meet Casimero, then we can still see a good fight between the Monster and Quadro Alas.

Judging from Casimero's situation lately, that gives us some hint that his fight with Inoue might not materialize too just like what happened to him against Paul Butler because Quadro Alas himself is already struggling to keep his weight from the desired weight. He's struggling to maintain his weight to be a bantamweight boxer that is why he is now contesting at 122 pounds. Let's just hope that we can still see them dancing soon at 122 because we never know, Inoue might choose Casimero to be his opponent in his debut.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Akaho - December 3
Post by: Japinat on November 01, 2022, 01:20:10 PM

Ring rust, everyone has to go to this. It's just a matter on how boxers are going to shake it off. And most likely, when Casimero's experience, he might likely start slow in this fight but eventually find his rhythm and this could end up to be a very good fight to watch as this could be war in his first fight at 122 lbs.

Nah, Casimero understands that a win here is his ticket for the next big fight, he was off for a while but he is still hungry for a win since he did not actually lose in a fight, he just got stripped with his belt which I believe he regretted his mistake. His comeback fight is something we should not miss to see if that fire in him is still there as he needed that to have a chance to face Inoue in the future.

Yes, I think the motivation and the hungry is still in the belly of Casimero. You are right that he didn't lose any fight or his belt, it's just he can't make the desired weight at 118 lbs.

So he will have be extra motivated in this new weight class, he will for sure look for the likes of Inoue if he decided to jump on this division or the current champion. Although there could be argument that he might be too small at 122 lbs but we will see if his power will be enough in this new division.

After being stripped of his WBO belt, unable to fight because of his medical condition, being suspended on his defense fight, and having nothin else left, Casimero is really hungry and more motivated to get the job done right. This is his opportunity to somehow climb again at the ranks and compete for the championship title.

But unfortunately, lots of big monsters are now in the super bantamweight and if Inoue will moved up to, another big challenge for Casimero if ever he can now be considered to fight against those on the top of the rankings.

And all of that unfortunate situations of Casimero happened in I think in just a span of 5 months, just like you said, he was hospitalized and had to recover first before starting his rigorous training to make sure that he'll remove the excess weight he had as he already had the history of having issues with his fight. When everything feels right, he was stripped by his belt few days before the fight because a video of him have leaked.

Cannot imagine how did Casimero feel after those unprecedented situations, surely he took some of his time reflecting about those incidents before deciding to climb in this new division. Now that he's back and hungry, I'll expect a good match from him.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Akaho - December 3
Post by: mirakal on November 01, 2022, 03:32:05 PM
is the vote real? that is landslide? voting 19 out of 20 for casimero ? is this how popular this boxer in our days now? well I also voted for him and i love it seeing another Filipino Boxer to take step forward to what Manny Pacquiao had already attain.
but the problem here is that about Casimero having no activities these past months , maybe he needs more exposure and open training for more popularization , this will add confidence for Him to win this fight.

That is for sure, did you expect the opposite thing? ;D kidding!

That is expected because Casimero is more famous than Akaho, I bet this is the first time we've heard Akaho's name in this forum and if you look on Akaho's history and credentials, you'll know that he is more of a local boxer rather than international type. Both of them wanted this fight, Casimero is fighting to redeem his name after all he experienced recently and Akaho is fighting to get the exposure he needed as Casimero will be his key to have a profitable fights in the future.

Good point, yes both boxers will benefit winning against each other, for Casimero, Akaho might present a tough fight for him in his new division. And in paper, Akaho has a good record specialy against Pinoys.

On the other hand, Akaho is trying to break into the spot, maybe just enough for him to be a legitimate contender or could have been given a chance to crack at the belt if he win against Casimero.

But in the end we wanted for Casimero to win this fight so that he will give noticed to this new division that someone wanted to enter. And then hopefully we will still see him vs Inoue in the future.

I guess Casimero is looking forward to achieve two goals in front of this Ryo Akaho, first is to have his name back in the industry and the second goal is to avenge all the Filipino boxers that Akaho defeated in the process. This is a good fight and it's not that too cherry-picked fight in my perspective because Akaho is also a decent boxer and a good test for Casimero.

Yes I am agree with this mate and also casimero will do it as we all know that casimero is aiming once again his name back to the crowd and for the titles also. Then once casimero will win in this fight then the crowds or fans will slowly get to normal and also if casimero will win then there's a chance to face inoue once again and I do hope that fight will happen as soon as possible.

Yes, that is the only struggle for Casimero for now because super-bantam is quite different from where he is from, the weight difference is not that much but their strengths would be affected for sure because this aren't his comfortable division. But since Casimero is struggling with his weight, we don't know for sure, he might find this division more comfortable for him. We will see more about it soon. I have a feeling that Casimero will end this with a blast as a message to the boxing industry that he is back.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Akaho - December 3
Post by: carlisle1 on November 01, 2022, 04:22:54 PM

i can agree that casimero has boxing skills. but when he failed to get a fight with inoue many times, i guess some of his boxing fans got disappointed.

His fans is disappointed on Inoue not him because he was always ready to face Inoue when he was still a champion but Inoue choose to fight Donaire instead of him. Inoue loss his title because of an offense, but if he was still a champ, I doubt Inoue would go for an undisputed fight with him.

You are maybe right but Casimero was not careful enough because made a mistake that cost him his belt and he losses that opportunity to fight Inoue. If Inoue was making an excuse, then he should be happy because of what happen to Casimero, but, if he will move up in weight and will meet Casimero, then we can still see a good fight between the Monster and Quadro Alas.

Judging from Casimero's situation lately, that gives us some hint that his fight with Inoue might not materialize too just like what happened to him against Paul Butler because Quadro Alas himself is already struggling to keep his weight from the desired weight. He's struggling to maintain his weight to be a bantamweight boxer that is why he is now contesting at 122 pounds. Let's just hope that we can still see them dancing soon at 122 because we never know, Inoue might choose Casimero to be his opponent in his debut.

For sure Inoue will rather choose fighting against the division champ instead of choosing Casimero where he might have a tough
job to beat, otherwise, the promoters will offer huge amount.

We can't conclude what fate Casimero may have from this new division but with his skills and IQ he also has decent chance of making
his way to be one of the top contenders for the belt.

One step at a time, just continue winning and everything will be concluded accordingly.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Akaho - December 3
Post by: Yaunfitda on November 02, 2022, 08:55:44 AM
is the vote real? that is landslide? voting 19 out of 20 for casimero ? is this how popular this boxer in our days now? well I also voted for him and i love it seeing another Filipino Boxer to take step forward to what Manny Pacquiao had already attain.
but the problem here is that about Casimero having no activities these past months , maybe he needs more exposure and open training for more popularization , this will add confidence for Him to win this fight.

That is for sure, did you expect the opposite thing? ;D kidding!

That is expected because Casimero is more famous than Akaho, I bet this is the first time we've heard Akaho's name in this forum and if you look on Akaho's history and credentials, you'll know that he is more of a local boxer rather than international type. Both of them wanted this fight, Casimero is fighting to redeem his name after all he experienced recently and Akaho is fighting to get the exposure he needed as Casimero will be his key to have a profitable fights in the future.

Good point, yes both boxers will benefit winning against each other, for Casimero, Akaho might present a tough fight for him in his new division. And in paper, Akaho has a good record specialy against Pinoys.

On the other hand, Akaho is trying to break into the spot, maybe just enough for him to be a legitimate contender or could have been given a chance to crack at the belt if he win against Casimero.

But in the end we wanted for Casimero to win this fight so that he will give noticed to this new division that someone wanted to enter. And then hopefully we will still see him vs Inoue in the future.

I guess Casimero is looking forward to achieve two goals in front of this Ryo Akaho, first is to have his name back in the industry and the second goal is to avenge all the Filipino boxers that Akaho defeated in the process. This is a good fight and it's not that too cherry-picked fight in my perspective because Akaho is also a decent boxer and a good test for Casimero.

Yes I am agree with this mate and also casimero will do it as we all know that casimero is aiming once again his name back to the crowd and for the titles also. Then once casimero will win in this fight then the crowds or fans will slowly get to normal and also if casimero will win then there's a chance to face inoue once again and I do hope that fight will happen as soon as possible.

Yes, that is the only struggle for Casimero for now because super-bantam is quite different from where he is from, the weight difference is not that much but their strengths would be affected for sure because this aren't his comfortable division. But since Casimero is struggling with his weight, we don't know for sure, he might find this division more comfortable for him. We will see more about it soon. I have a feeling that Casimero will end this with a blast as a message to the boxing industry that he is back.
We can't really tell if he is uncomfortable in this division or not. We will have to wait and see how he is going to fare in this fight against Akaho.

Nevertheless, if he is not going to struggle in weight then it's a + sign for him in this division. Yes, he will still need to go to a diet but maybe at not as rigorous as when he is at 118 lbs. For me, it's the question on whether he can bring his power or if he is too small in this division to make damage to tall and natural super bantamweight boxer.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Akaho - December 3
Post by: Fredomago on November 02, 2022, 10:53:47 AM

We can't really tell if he is uncomfortable in this division or not. We will have to wait and see how he is going to fare in this fight against Akaho.

Nevertheless, if he is not going to struggle in weight then it's a + sign for him in this division. Yes, he will still need to go to a diet but maybe at not as rigorous as when he is at 118 lbs. For me, it's the question on whether he can bring his power or if he is too small in this division to make damage to tall and natural super bantamweight boxer.
And also his speed knowing that he is adding weight it will be affected since he is not really used to body shape, though a fighter needs to adjust and he really needed this break to make his name notice from this division, if he succeed then we will expect more from him showing his talent, Casimero will find a way to make his comeback noticeable, expecting to see a toe-to-toe engagement with Akaho.

It will be an interesting fight if Casimero will bring his entertaining skills. I mean, he loves the attention he must win the crowd here.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Akaho - December 3
Post by: Natalim on November 02, 2022, 11:46:37 AM

It will be an interesting fight if Casimero will bring his entertaining skills. I mean, he loves the attention he must win the crowd here.

Well, I have no doubt Casimero will make it an entertaining fight, however, it's also important Akaho will be willing to give his 100% and do a toe to toe fight, not like Rigondeaux who just run all night.  :) I am not too familiar on his opponent but judging his boxing record, I know this guy is willing to exchange faces with his opponent.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Akaho - December 3
Post by: inthelongrun on November 02, 2022, 11:52:02 AM

We can't really tell if he is uncomfortable in this division or not. We will have to wait and see how he is going to fare in this fight against Akaho.

Nevertheless, if he is not going to struggle in weight then it's a + sign for him in this division. Yes, he will still need to go to a diet but maybe at not as rigorous as when he is at 118 lbs. For me, it's the question on whether he can bring his power or if he is too small in this division to make damage to tall and natural super bantamweight boxer.
And also his speed knowing that he is adding weight it will be affected since he is not really used to body shape, though a fighter needs to adjust and he really needed this break to make his name notice from this division, if he succeed then we will expect more from him showing his talent, Casimero will find a way to make his comeback noticeable, expecting to see a toe-to-toe engagement with Akaho.

It will be an interesting fight if Casimero will bring his entertaining skills. I mean, he loves the attention he must win the crowd here.

I really think Casimero would be too small and short at 122 just like Inoue. The difference between them is Inoue has the speed that might be enough to compete well at 122. We are looking forward to Casimero's return, let's hope he feels good and comfortable. Casimero needs to perform well in this fight if he wants to get a title shot next year. Although after this fight, Casimero can still drop again in weight so he can take a vacant belt once Inoue moves up after collecting them all.

So for now, our eyes will be on Casimero-Akaho, Inoue-Butler, and 122 WBA/IBF champion Murodjon Akhmadaliev against his mandatory challenger Marlon Tapales.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Akaho - December 3
Post by: yazher on November 02, 2022, 11:58:23 AM

It will be an interesting fight if Casimero will bring his entertaining skills. I mean, he loves the attention he must win the crowd here.

He really need to make a comeback win with this one and give the audiences the fight they really wanted to see from him. If his skills are still there, the fans all around the world will demand to see him fighting Inoue next. When their managers see the demand of that fight, they will gonna negotiate and make it come true.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Akaho - December 3
Post by: Fredomago on November 02, 2022, 12:12:13 PM

Although after this fight, Casimero can still drop again in weight so he can take a vacant belt once Inoue moves up after collecting them all.

That might only happen if Casimero will take his diet seriously, if by chance either he wins or loses if his camp sees his disadvantage, he
can take the right diet and meet the require weight and be back to his former division and take his shot. It's better maybe if he will meet
Inoue from this division, so both of them are comfortable fighting with the weight that they both dominated.

Quote
So for now, our eyes will be on Casimero-Akaho, Inoue-Butler, and 122 WBA/IBF champion Murodjon Akhmadaliev against his mandatory challenger Marlon Tapales.

Yup, this is the current events that fans will follow, all the winners will bring more hypes to their respective careers, for sure they are all eager to take one another and have that chance to fight with each other in case fate destine them to meet inside the ring.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Akaho - December 3
Post by: bisdak40 on November 02, 2022, 12:40:32 PM

It will be an interesting fight if Casimero will bring his entertaining skills. I mean, he loves the attention he must win the crowd here.

He really need to make a comeback win with this one and give the audiences the fight they really wanted to see from him. If his skills are still there, the fans all around the world will demand to see him fighting Inoue next. When their managers see the demand of that fight, they will gonna negotiate and make it come true.

Skills-wise, many will agree with me that Casimero has the edge on this department and I think he would work hard on his training regimen because that would be the only way that he can be sure to beat Akaho, I mean skills are nothing if the hard work is not there, it should work side by side.

For me, Casimero is a marketable fighter because of his antics and he doesn't need to be associated with Inoue at this point in his career because that money fight will come if he will focus on his goal which is to be back on his winning ways.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Akaho - December 3
Post by: Shamm on November 02, 2022, 04:09:15 PM

We can't really tell if he is uncomfortable in this division or not. We will have to wait and see how he is going to fare in this fight against Akaho.

Nevertheless, if he is not going to struggle in weight then it's a + sign for him in this division. Yes, he will still need to go to a diet but maybe at not as rigorous as when he is at 118 lbs. For me, it's the question on whether he can bring his power or if he is too small in this division to make damage to tall and natural super bantamweight boxer.
And also his speed knowing that he is adding weight it will be affected since he is not really used to body shape, though a fighter needs to adjust and he really needed this break to make his name notice from this division, if he succeed then we will expect more from him showing his talent, Casimero will find a way to make his comeback noticeable, expecting to see a toe-to-toe engagement with Akaho.

It will be an interesting fight if Casimero will bring his entertaining skills. I mean, he loves the attention he must win the crowd here.

casimero need to win this match in order to be recognize once again because if he will loss these fight then for sure supporters and fans will be disappointed because they are hoping a big comeback from casimero which means he need to be more aggressive and competitive in this fight. But I think he can do it without a doubt. And yes you are right that mate this fight will be interesting since the hungry lion want to show


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Akaho - December 3
Post by: deathcode on November 02, 2022, 05:15:05 PM

We can't really tell if he is uncomfortable in this division or not. We will have to wait and see how he is going to fare in this fight against Akaho.

Nevertheless, if he is not going to struggle in weight then it's a + sign for him in this division. Yes, he will still need to go to a diet but maybe at not as rigorous as when he is at 118 lbs. For me, it's the question on whether he can bring his power or if he is too small in this division to make damage to tall and natural super bantamweight boxer.
And also his speed knowing that he is adding weight it will be affected since he is not really used to body shape, though a fighter needs to adjust and he really needed this break to make his name notice from this division, if he succeed then we will expect more from him showing his talent, Casimero will find a way to make his comeback noticeable, expecting to see a toe-to-toe engagement with Akaho.

It will be an interesting fight if Casimero will bring his entertaining skills. I mean, he loves the attention he must win the crowd here.

casimero need to win this match in order to be recognize once again because if he will loss these fight then for sure supporters and fans will be disappointed because they are hoping a big comeback from casimero which means he need to be more aggressive and competitive in this fight. But I think he can do it without a doubt. And yes you are right that mate this fight will be interesting since the hungry lion want to show

Yes, that's right, after he made a ridiculous and fatal mistake that he experienced so that he lost his title.
Many of his fans were disappointed because he did something very reckless. this time Casimero had to win and really prove that he still deserved it.
If Casimero manages to beat Akaho in this fight, it will be a good opportunity for Casimero to prove to his disappointed fans.
But Akaho is not an opponent that Casimero can underestimate because he has a good fighting record too.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Akaho - December 3
Post by: Japinat on November 02, 2022, 05:32:54 PM

It will be an interesting fight if Casimero will bring his entertaining skills. I mean, he loves the attention he must win the crowd here.

Well, I have no doubt Casimero will make it an entertaining fight, however, it's also important Akaho will be willing to give his 100% and do a toe to toe fight, not like Rigondeaux who just run all night.  :) I am not too familiar on his opponent but judging his boxing record, I know this guy is willing to exchange faces with his opponent.

I'm already expecting a heavy fight because both of them has their own goal and only by a way of win can meet those goals they have. The only difference is that Casimero is looking for a good fight where he can bounce back while Akaho is seeing Casimero as a way to get his name known in the international league. What I want to see is Casimero's mind games, I hope we can get some glimpse soon.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Akaho - December 3
Post by: Jating on November 02, 2022, 07:32:55 PM

It will be an interesting fight if Casimero will bring his entertaining skills. I mean, he loves the attention he must win the crowd here.

Well, I have no doubt Casimero will make it an entertaining fight, however, it's also important Akaho will be willing to give his 100% and do a toe to toe fight, not like Rigondeaux who just run all night.  :) I am not too familiar on his opponent but judging his boxing record, I know this guy is willing to exchange faces with his opponent.

I'm already expecting a heavy fight because both of them has their own goal and only by a way of win can meet those goals they have. The only difference is that Casimero is looking for a good fight where he can bounce back while Akaho is seeing Casimero as a way to get his name known in the international league. What I want to see is Casimero's mind games, I hope we can get some glimpse soon.

Both are banger, so obviously, this will be a war in the ring. And in addition, Casimero is entertaining and very brandish as per his previous fight. And most likely he will do that again in the ring, maybe toy with Akaho in the beginning of the round as if to say that he is not affected by his punches. So yeah even in the fight there will be mind games being played by Casimero and if Akaho is not careful and fall for this trick then definitely, Casimero might have a better chance of winning.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Akaho - December 3
Post by: Questat on November 03, 2022, 07:31:01 AM

It will be an interesting fight if Casimero will bring his entertaining skills. I mean, he loves the attention he must win the crowd here.

Well, I have no doubt Casimero will make it an entertaining fight, however, it's also important Akaho will be willing to give his 100% and do a toe to toe fight, not like Rigondeaux who just run all night.  :) I am not too familiar on his opponent but judging his boxing record, I know this guy is willing to exchange faces with his opponent.

I'm already expecting a heavy fight because both of them has their own goal and only by a way of win can meet those goals they have. The only difference is that Casimero is looking for a good fight where he can bounce back while Akaho is seeing Casimero as a way to get his name known in the international league. What I want to see is Casimero's mind games, I hope we can get some glimpse soon.

Both are banger, so obviously, this will be a war in the ring. And in addition, Casimero is entertaining and very brandish as per his previous fight. And most likely he will do that again in the ring, maybe toy with Akaho in the beginning of the round as if to say that he is not affected by his punches. So yeah even in the fight there will be mind games being played by Casimero and if Akaho is not careful and fall for this trick then definitely, Casimero might have a better chance of winning.

Casimero's style is proven to be effective, so I have no doubt that he could win this game, and not only a win, it's a big win because most likely it will result to a KO. After a long period of being inactive, it's time for him to come back and make some noise so people will know that he is back again, he may not be a champion after this win but becoming a top challenger would give him a chance to fight the champ.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Akaho - December 3
Post by: TravelMug on November 03, 2022, 07:59:08 AM

It will be an interesting fight if Casimero will bring his entertaining skills. I mean, he loves the attention he must win the crowd here.

Well, I have no doubt Casimero will make it an entertaining fight, however, it's also important Akaho will be willing to give his 100% and do a toe to toe fight, not like Rigondeaux who just run all night.  :) I am not too familiar on his opponent but judging his boxing record, I know this guy is willing to exchange faces with his opponent.

I'm already expecting a heavy fight because both of them has their own goal and only by a way of win can meet those goals they have. The only difference is that Casimero is looking for a good fight where he can bounce back while Akaho is seeing Casimero as a way to get his name known in the international league. What I want to see is Casimero's mind games, I hope we can get some glimpse soon.

Both are banger, so obviously, this will be a war in the ring. And in addition, Casimero is entertaining and very brandish as per his previous fight. And most likely he will do that again in the ring, maybe toy with Akaho in the beginning of the round as if to say that he is not affected by his punches. So yeah even in the fight there will be mind games being played by Casimero and if Akaho is not careful and fall for this trick then definitely, Casimero might have a better chance of winning.

Casimero's style is proven to be effective, so I have no doubt that he could win this game, and not only a win, it's a big win because most likely it will result to a KO. After a long period of being inactive, it's time for him to come back and make some noise so people will know that he is back again, he may not be a champion after this win but becoming a top challenger would give him a chance to fight the champ.

Yes, but he still needs to be very careful in this fight. This is a new division for him and definitely there could be some adjustment, even that small that he needs to do like adjusting to the weight and the power of his opponent. So it will not be like be a easy thing to accomplished for him because he is facing a very tough and game fighter. So hopefully, John Riel should not take this fight lightly and be overconfident.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Akaho - December 3
Post by: Fredomago on November 03, 2022, 08:44:25 AM

It will be an interesting fight if Casimero will bring his entertaining skills. I mean, he loves the attention he must win the crowd here.

He really need to make a comeback win with this one and give the audiences the fight they really wanted to see from him. If his skills are still there, the fans all around the world will demand to see him fighting Inoue next. When their managers see the demand of that fight, they will gonna negotiate and make it come true.

Skills-wise, many will agree with me that Casimero has the edge on this department and I think he would work hard on his training regimen because that would be the only way that he can be sure to beat Akaho, I mean skills are nothing if the hard work is not there, it should work side by side.

For me, Casimero is a marketable fighter because of his antics and he doesn't need to be associated with Inoue at this point in his career because that money fight will come if he will focus on his goal which is to be back on his winning ways.

Yup, focusing in this upcoming fight will be the key for Casimero to win this fight, if he regain his name and start hyping back his career sooner or later money fight will come, not exactly from how he has been treated way back from his original weight division but if he keeps getting the attention for sure promoters will give him the money to fight, that may lead to a good title fight.

It's on how he will prepare himself and how he will impress the fans. The goal is to win and make his way up from this new division.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Akaho - December 3
Post by: Yamifoud on November 03, 2022, 11:46:07 AM

It will be an interesting fight if Casimero will bring his entertaining skills. I mean, he loves the attention he must win the crowd here.

He really need to make a comeback win with this one and give the audiences the fight they really wanted to see from him. If his skills are still there, the fans all around the world will demand to see him fighting Inoue next. When their managers see the demand of that fight, they will gonna negotiate and make it come true.

Skills-wise, many will agree with me that Casimero has the edge on this department and I think he would work hard on his training regimen because that would be the only way that he can be sure to beat Akaho, I mean skills are nothing if the hard work is not there, it should work side by side.

For me, Casimero is a marketable fighter because of his antics and he doesn't need to be associated with Inoue at this point in his career because that money fight will come if he will focus on his goal which is to be back on his winning ways.

Yup, focusing in this upcoming fight will be the key for Casimero to win this fight, if he regain his name and start hyping back his career sooner or later money fight will come, not exactly from how he has been treated way back from his original weight division but if he keeps getting the attention for sure promoters will give him the money to fight, that may lead to a good title fight.



Believe that it will happen, Casimero will surely regain his name because he was not beaten through a fight. I believe the fight is going to be exciting, of course, Casimero being the aggressor is a sure thing already, his counter punching is very precise, so KO is expected this fight.

Quote
It's on how he will prepare himself and how he will impress the fans. The goal is to win and make his way up from this new division.
His problem before was his weight, now it should not be the problem.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Akaho - December 3
Post by: cryptomaniac_xxx on November 03, 2022, 12:57:25 PM

It will be an interesting fight if Casimero will bring his entertaining skills. I mean, he loves the attention he must win the crowd here.

He really need to make a comeback win with this one and give the audiences the fight they really wanted to see from him. If his skills are still there, the fans all around the world will demand to see him fighting Inoue next. When their managers see the demand of that fight, they will gonna negotiate and make it come true.

Skills-wise, many will agree with me that Casimero has the edge on this department and I think he would work hard on his training regimen because that would be the only way that he can be sure to beat Akaho, I mean skills are nothing if the hard work is not there, it should work side by side.

For me, Casimero is a marketable fighter because of his antics and he doesn't need to be associated with Inoue at this point in his career because that money fight will come if he will focus on his goal which is to be back on his winning ways.

Yup, focusing in this upcoming fight will be the key for Casimero to win this fight, if he regain his name and start hyping back his career sooner or later money fight will come, not exactly from how he has been treated way back from his original weight division but if he keeps getting the attention for sure promoters will give him the money to fight, that may lead to a good title fight.

It's on how he will prepare himself and how he will impress the fans. The goal is to win and make his way up from this new division.

He needs to take it one fight at the time, first it is going to be Akaho in front of him, not Butler or Inoue. So his focus should be on who he is fighting and not look for any future fights yet.

But once he overcome and win here, the door will be open, nobody can deny that he almost had a good run in 118 lbs and could be the one facing Inoue. But things happen and hopefully he learn for that huge mistake and start all over again at 122 lbs and win some belts later down the line.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Akaho - December 3
Post by: Kasabus on November 03, 2022, 05:04:31 PM

i can agree that casimero has boxing skills. but when he failed to get a fight with inoue many times, i guess some of his boxing fans got disappointed.

His fans is disappointed on Inoue not him because he was always ready to face Inoue when he was still a champion but Inoue choose to fight Donaire instead of him. Inoue loss his title because of an offense, but if he was still a champ, I doubt Inoue would go for an undisputed fight with him.

You are maybe right but Casimero was not careful enough because made a mistake that cost him his belt and he losses that opportunity to fight Inoue. If Inoue was making an excuse, then he should be happy because of what happen to Casimero, but, if he will move up in weight and will meet Casimero, then we can still see a good fight between the Monster and Quadro Alas.

Judging from Casimero's situation lately, that gives us some hint that his fight with Inoue might not materialize too just like what happened to him against Paul Butler because Quadro Alas himself is already struggling to keep his weight from the desired weight. He's struggling to maintain his weight to be a bantamweight boxer that is why he is now contesting at 122 pounds. Let's just hope that we can still see them dancing soon at 122 because we never know, Inoue might choose Casimero to be his opponent in his debut.

For sure Inoue will rather choose fighting against the division champ instead of choosing Casimero where he might have a tough
job to beat, otherwise, the promoters will offer huge amount.

We can't conclude what fate Casimero may have from this new division but with his skills and IQ he also has decent chance of making
his way to be one of the top contenders for the belt.

One step at a time, just continue winning and everything will be concluded accordingly.

That may be the case and I know that they can't turn down a good money fight but the question is, will Bob Arum let that happen? We all know what kind of promoter he is, and he always puts his boxers in a much comfortable space before giving them war. So, maybe we can see that Inoue will test the water first, maybe not Casimero but there's a high chance that he won't be facing champions on his debut.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Akaho - December 3
Post by: mirakal on November 03, 2022, 05:18:53 PM

It will be an interesting fight if Casimero will bring his entertaining skills. I mean, he loves the attention he must win the crowd here.

He really need to make a comeback win with this one and give the audiences the fight they really wanted to see from him. If his skills are still there, the fans all around the world will demand to see him fighting Inoue next. When their managers see the demand of that fight, they will gonna negotiate and make it come true.

Skills-wise, many will agree with me that Casimero has the edge on this department and I think he would work hard on his training regimen because that would be the only way that he can be sure to beat Akaho, I mean skills are nothing if the hard work is not there, it should work side by side.

For me, Casimero is a marketable fighter because of his antics and he doesn't need to be associated with Inoue at this point in his career because that money fight will come if he will focus on his goal which is to be back on his winning ways.

I definitely agree with you on that, Casimero has an edge over Akaho, but he shouldn't be slacking because of that as he still need to finish this fight with a good outcome to send a message in this division. He needed to work his way again through the ranks just like what he did in bantamweight division and Inoue fight could be interesting but that is not he needed now. There will be a time for that.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Akaho - December 3
Post by: Sanitough on November 04, 2022, 04:12:50 PM

It will be an interesting fight if Casimero will bring his entertaining skills. I mean, he loves the attention he must win the crowd here.

He really need to make a comeback win with this one and give the audiences the fight they really wanted to see from him. If his skills are still there, the fans all around the world will demand to see him fighting Inoue next. When their managers see the demand of that fight, they will gonna negotiate and make it come true.

Skills-wise, many will agree with me that Casimero has the edge on this department and I think he would work hard on his training regimen because that would be the only way that he can be sure to beat Akaho, I mean skills are nothing if the hard work is not there, it should work side by side.

For me, Casimero is a marketable fighter because of his antics and he doesn't need to be associated with Inoue at this point in his career because that money fight will come if he will focus on his goal which is to be back on his winning ways.

I definitely agree with you on that, Casimero has an edge over Akaho, but he shouldn't be slacking because of that as he still need to finish this fight with a good outcome to send a message in this division. He needed to work his way again through the ranks just like what he did in bantamweight division and Inoue fight could be interesting but that is not he needed now. There will be a time for that.

Yes, no doubt about that. Casimero clearly have the upper hand compared to this Ryo Akaho who's not that known and doesn't have any impressive figures in his rapsheet. I mean, even the users in this forum are siding and voting in Casimero's favor, and that is not so surprising at all. What I want to see is how would Casimero finish this fight because surely, just like what you have said, Casimero needs to send a message.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Akaho - December 3
Post by: Fredomago on November 05, 2022, 11:04:54 AM

It will be an interesting fight if Casimero will bring his entertaining skills. I mean, he loves the attention he must win the crowd here.

He really need to make a comeback win with this one and give the audiences the fight they really wanted to see from him. If his skills are still there, the fans all around the world will demand to see him fighting Inoue next. When their managers see the demand of that fight, they will gonna negotiate and make it come true.

Skills-wise, many will agree with me that Casimero has the edge on this department and I think he would work hard on his training regimen because that would be the only way that he can be sure to beat Akaho, I mean skills are nothing if the hard work is not there, it should work side by side.

For me, Casimero is a marketable fighter because of his antics and he doesn't need to be associated with Inoue at this point in his career because that money fight will come if he will focus on his goal which is to be back on his winning ways.

I definitely agree with you on that, Casimero has an edge over Akaho, but he shouldn't be slacking because of that as he still need to finish this fight with a good outcome to send a message in this division. He needed to work his way again through the ranks just like what he did in bantamweight division and Inoue fight could be interesting but that is not he needed now. There will be a time for that.

Yes, no doubt about that. Casimero clearly have the upper hand compared to this Ryo Akaho who's not that known and doesn't have any impressive figures in his rapsheet. I mean, even the users in this forum are siding and voting in Casimero's favor, and that is not so surprising at all. What I want to see is how would Casimero finish this fight because surely, just like what you have said, Casimero needs to send a message.
If Akaho will engage which he has that capabilities in taking solid punches, it's nice seeing a toe-to-toe exchanges of punches that may lead of them down, a KO will hype the name of whoever will win this fight, siding to Casimero is no longer a surprise, he is a former Champ who never lose his belt into a fight but by technicalities.

A good challenge to him now, preparing for his upcoming fight, a new division which would be the first step in his new journey.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Akaho - December 3
Post by: Hypnosis00 on November 05, 2022, 12:07:50 PM
A good challenge to him now, preparing for his upcoming fight, a new division which would be the first step in his new journey.

The first step and his possible first win, well, there should be no problem with him in this fight, it's on the division that he is comfortable, there is no more weight issues for sure and we will again see Casimero winning via KO. There's a reason why he is the heavy favorite here, that's because people still believe that he still is a champion.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Akaho - December 3
Post by: LUCKMCFLY on November 05, 2022, 03:36:04 PM
I'm happy that he ain't gonna spend the rest of the year reflecting on what he had done in the past when he almost have the shot on undisputed title with Inoue. This is much better for him rather than forcing himself to shrink at a certain weight needed that he'll surely struggle. In this weight class, I hope have no issues because he needed to climb through the ranks if he still want to be a belt holder.

Should be no problem now on this weight division but hopefully, that gastritis won't ruin the fun here. That medical condition is unpredictable and Casimero can be hit with that anytime. But this time I think they are more prepared and during the time when they are almost close fighting against Paul Butler, he seems healthy at that point.

Casimero has no room for losing this match. If he loses here, I think it's better to just retire or people should not expect to him anymore.

He will not lose if he is healthy, prior to his disqualification in the Butler's match, we were expecting that he will win, in fact, he was the heavy favorite to win but unfortunate things happened and he was stripped of his belt. Now, he is coming back, and though it's not a big fight it's already good for a start, so I'm very optimistic that he will win here and he will start building his name again, that hype has to grow for him to have a big fight again.

Well, in this match I cannot say that I am totally clear, because I do not like to underestimate anyone, and much less distrust the great abilities that a boxer may have in particular, whether he is known or not, for me a boxer will always have a lot to offer because he got there for a reason, but I clearly know that many will go for Casimero, he is the favorite, he is a boxer who has always shown us what his style is like and how he deals with his challenges, we cannot discredit the work he has done Akaho has done, because he is a boxer who has his merits, and this is what I always say, if he wants to make history, everything depends on his training.


It will be an interesting fight if Casimero will bring his entertaining skills. I mean, he loves the attention he must win the crowd here.

Well, I have no doubt Casimero will make it an entertaining fight, however, it's also important Akaho will be willing to give his 100% and do a toe to toe fight, not like Rigondeaux who just run all night.  :) I am not too familiar on his opponent but judging his boxing record, I know this guy is willing to exchange faces with his opponent.

I'm already expecting a heavy fight because both of them has their own goal and only by a way of win can meet those goals they have. The only difference is that Casimero is looking for a good fight where he can bounce back while Akaho is seeing Casimero as a way to get his name known in the international league. What I want to see is Casimero's mind games, I hope we can get some glimpse soon.

Both are banger, so obviously, this will be a war in the ring. And in addition, Casimero is entertaining and very brandish as per his previous fight. And most likely he will do that again in the ring, maybe toy with Akaho in the beginning of the round as if to say that he is not affected by his punches. So yeah even in the fight there will be mind games being played by Casimero and if Akaho is not careful and fall for this trick then definitely, Casimero might have a better chance of winning.
Well, in this fight I know that many will go for Casimero, he is a very complete boxer and I think he meets the expectations of many, for me he is a boxer who probably has the advantage, but to tell the truth when we get to see From a much larger window we can conclude the following, it is a sport under which we can give the favorite the winner according to their statistics and the good numbers that are handled, for me Akaho is very good, but I do not know if with respect to I almost managed to be superior, but I have learned something, that in contact sports if you have enough training and subject your body to great efforts, it is likely that you can give a surprise.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Akaho - December 3
Post by: Japinat on November 05, 2022, 04:53:51 PM

It will be an interesting fight if Casimero will bring his entertaining skills. I mean, he loves the attention he must win the crowd here.

He really need to make a comeback win with this one and give the audiences the fight they really wanted to see from him. If his skills are still there, the fans all around the world will demand to see him fighting Inoue next. When their managers see the demand of that fight, they will gonna negotiate and make it come true.

Skills-wise, many will agree with me that Casimero has the edge on this department and I think he would work hard on his training regimen because that would be the only way that he can be sure to beat Akaho, I mean skills are nothing if the hard work is not there, it should work side by side.

For me, Casimero is a marketable fighter because of his antics and he doesn't need to be associated with Inoue at this point in his career because that money fight will come if he will focus on his goal which is to be back on his winning ways.

I definitely agree with you on that, Casimero has an edge over Akaho, but he shouldn't be slacking because of that as he still need to finish this fight with a good outcome to send a message in this division. He needed to work his way again through the ranks just like what he did in bantamweight division and Inoue fight could be interesting but that is not he needed now. There will be a time for that.

Yes, no doubt about that. Casimero clearly have the upper hand compared to this Ryo Akaho who's not that known and doesn't have any impressive figures in his rapsheet. I mean, even the users in this forum are siding and voting in Casimero's favor, and that is not so surprising at all. What I want to see is how would Casimero finish this fight because surely, just like what you have said, Casimero needs to send a message.
If Akaho will engage which he has that capabilities in taking solid punches, it's nice seeing a toe-to-toe exchanges of punches that may lead of them down, a KO will hype the name of whoever will win this fight, siding to Casimero is no longer a surprise, he is a former Champ who never lose his belt into a fight but by technicalities.

A good challenge to him now, preparing for his upcoming fight, a new division which would be the first step in his new journey.


It will be a good fight and knowing that Casimero is somehow careless and would try to bait this Akaho to give what he wanted and that is a toe-to-toe fight. Not sure who will survive at the end but I think Casimero have the advantage, and he should give everything just to shift the fight on his favor as this fight will determine his future in this industry.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Akaho - December 3
Post by: mirakal on November 05, 2022, 06:09:40 PM

It will be an interesting fight if Casimero will bring his entertaining skills. I mean, he loves the attention he must win the crowd here.

He really need to make a comeback win with this one and give the audiences the fight they really wanted to see from him. If his skills are still there, the fans all around the world will demand to see him fighting Inoue next. When their managers see the demand of that fight, they will gonna negotiate and make it come true.

Skills-wise, many will agree with me that Casimero has the edge on this department and I think he would work hard on his training regimen because that would be the only way that he can be sure to beat Akaho, I mean skills are nothing if the hard work is not there, it should work side by side.

For me, Casimero is a marketable fighter because of his antics and he doesn't need to be associated with Inoue at this point in his career because that money fight will come if he will focus on his goal which is to be back on his winning ways.

I definitely agree with you on that, Casimero has an edge over Akaho, but he shouldn't be slacking because of that as he still need to finish this fight with a good outcome to send a message in this division. He needed to work his way again through the ranks just like what he did in bantamweight division and Inoue fight could be interesting but that is not he needed now. There will be a time for that.

Yes, no doubt about that. Casimero clearly have the upper hand compared to this Ryo Akaho who's not that known and doesn't have any impressive figures in his rapsheet. I mean, even the users in this forum are siding and voting in Casimero's favor, and that is not so surprising at all. What I want to see is how would Casimero finish this fight because surely, just like what you have said, Casimero needs to send a message.

Of course, it's already expected that Casimero will garner most of the votes here and seeing the poll is a clear indication that Casimero truly have what it takes and talent to beat Ryo Akaho, I have no doubts as well on Casimero's talents, even before. But I'm just curious regarding on his weight, any news about him? It's so unlikely that we're not getting any news from him, I just wanna know if he's still struggling to get the required weight in this division.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Akaho - December 3
Post by: lionheart78 on November 05, 2022, 08:29:43 PM
Believe that it will happen, Casimero will surely regain his name because he was not beaten through a fight. I believe the fight is going to be exciting, of course, Casimero being the aggressor is a sure thing already, his counter punching is very precise, so KO is expected this fight.

On the other note, idling for so long may affect the performance of Casimero in the early rounds.  So we might possibly see a slow-starting Casimero in this fight.  We have seen Loma performing like this when he has gone idle for a long time

Quote
It's on how he will prepare himself and how he will impress the fans. The goal is to win and make his way up from this new division.
His problem before was his weight, now it should not be the problem.

Definitely weight shouldn't be a problem but his stamina.  I hope Casimero will improve his stamina so that he can really box it out even when the fight goes to 12 rounds.  Except for Manny Pacquiao, the majority of Filipino boxers' issue is stamina.  Many are skilled and strong punchers but when the fight goes a long way, many of them don't have enough stamina to stay as effective as in the early round.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Akaho - December 3
Post by: harizen on November 05, 2022, 10:00:46 PM
But I'm just curious regarding on his weight, any news about him? It's so unlikely that we're not getting any news from him, I just wanna know if he's still struggling to get the required weight in this division.

He only struggled to maintain weight at around 118 lbs therefore at 122-125 lbs, there should be at least no problem.

Not that much news about him because we can fairly assume that this fight is not really a big fight to consider.

Maybe a few days or weeks before the fight, we can at least see some local sports news giving pre-match analysis on this fight.



Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Akaho - December 3
Post by: AmoreJaz on November 05, 2022, 10:10:04 PM
But I'm just curious regarding on his weight, any news about him? It's so unlikely that we're not getting any news from him, I just wanna know if he's still struggling to get the required weight in this division.

He only struggled to maintain weight at around 118 lbs therefore at 122-125 lbs, there should be at least no problem.

Not that much news about him because we can fairly assume that this fight is not really a big fight to consider.

Maybe a few days or weeks before the fight, we can at least see some local sports news giving pre-match analysis on this fight.


casimero needs to show what he's got on this division as he found hard time to get in at 118lbs. so we are expecting that this higher weight division should not be a problem for him. i can understand that most are rooting for him to win this fight, but he should not take this lightly as we haven't seen him fight on this weight level. if he wants to redeem himself, he should be serious on this fight even if we say this is not a big fight for him.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Akaho - December 3
Post by: Baofeng on November 05, 2022, 10:16:11 PM
But I'm just curious regarding on his weight, any news about him? It's so unlikely that we're not getting any news from him, I just wanna know if he's still struggling to get the required weight in this division.

He only struggled to maintain weight at around 118 lbs therefore at 122-125 lbs, there should be at least no problem.

Not that much news about him because we can fairly assume that this fight is not really a big fight to consider.

Maybe a few days or weeks before the fight, we can at least see some local sports news giving pre-match analysis on this fight.

True, 118 lbs was really a problem for him and I think his body can't no longer go that low without giving him any problems. So it's a right move for him to go 122 lbs, and I will speculate that he won't have a problem making this weight this time. If his walking weight is around 126 - 130 lbs, then it's easy to shed that 5 lbs or more in the 3-4 months that he will go full and hard training. And I will also assumed that he will get someone to monitor his weight along the way just to make sure that there will be no issues in his new weight class.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Akaho - December 3
Post by: goinmerry on November 05, 2022, 10:50:19 PM
But I'm just curious regarding on his weight, any news about him? It's so unlikely that we're not getting any news from him, I just wanna know if he's still struggling to get the required weight in this division.

He only struggled to maintain weight at around 118 lbs therefore at 122-125 lbs, there should be at least no problem.

Not that much news about him because we can fairly assume that this fight is not really a big fight to consider.

Maybe a few days or weeks before the fight, we can at least see some local sports news giving pre-match analysis on this fight.

True, 118 lbs was really a problem for him and I think his body can't no longer go that low without giving him any problems. So it's a right move for him to go 122 lbs, and I will speculate that he won't have a problem making this weight this time. If his walking weight is around 126 - 130 lbs, then it's easy to shed that 5 lbs or more in the 3-4 months that he will go full and hard training. And I will also assumed that he will get someone to monitor his weight along the way just to make sure that there will be no issues in his new weight class.

Agree with you both. Struggling in the 118 lbs is even the big reason to consider why he moved up weight as they don't want to struggle anymore catching that weight because maybe in Casimero's current lifestyle, he's now playing at around 125 lbs to 130 lbs.

Besides, if ever he is still at over 10 lbs at the required catchweight a few days before this match, he is allowed to do the sauna and everything lol. The use of a sauna is only prohibited under the terms of the British Boxing Council that's why Donaire even points out that it should not be the reason for Casimero being stripped with the title although the point there is, Casimero should follow the jurisdiction of the host country.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Akaho - December 3
Post by: BitcoinPanther on November 05, 2022, 11:00:58 PM

Not that much news about him because we can fairly assume that this fight is not really a big fight to consider.


Indeed since it is a non-title fight, it isn't that big but it is a very interesting fight since Akaho has floored several Filipino boxers.  I think he is not beaten in his fight against Filipino fighter so this is somehow intriguing if Akaho will continue his streak of beating Filipino fighter or Casimero will avenge his fellow Filipinos that loses to Akaho. Take note Akaho last fight was against a Filipino boxer Edrin Dapudong whom he knocked out in the first round last September 3, 2022 at the Korakuen Hall in Tokyo, Japan.[1]

True, 118 lbs was really a problem for him and I think his body can't no longer go that low without giving him any problems. So it's a right move for him to go 122 lbs, and I will speculate that he won't have a problem making this weight this time. If his walking weight is around 126 - 130 lbs, then it's easy to shed that 5 lbs or more in the 3-4 months that he will go full and hard training. And I will also assumed that he will get someone to monitor his weight along the way just to make sure that there will be no issues in his new weight class.

With his possible natural weight division, I believe Casimero will perform better.  Since he has no issue of overtraining just to meet the requirement, he possibly have maximum energy to fight this match.  So I expect a better performing Casimero than when he is on his previous weight category.





[1] https://cebudailynews.inquirer.net/469607/casimeros-comeback-fight-set-on-dec-3


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Akaho - December 3
Post by: agustina2 on November 05, 2022, 11:28:15 PM
Indeed since it is a non-title fight, it isn't that big but it is a very interesting fight since Akaho has floored several Filipino boxers.  I think he is not beaten in his fight against Filipino fighter so this is somehow intriguing if Akaho will continue his streak of beating Filipino fighter or Casimero will avenge his fellow Filipinos that loses to Akaho. Take note Akaho last fight was against a Filipino boxer Edrin Dapudong whom he knocked out in the first round last September 3, 2022 at the Korakuen Hall in Tokyo, Japan.[1]

Checking Akaho's previous fights against Filipino boxers, I can say that most of those are not even in a good ranking nor being a strong contender.

Different from John Riel Casimero that already proven as one of the strong boxers in the Bantamweight although this match is under the Super Bantamweight Division but should not be a different environment for him.

This will be Akaho's biggest challenge against a Filipino boxer as he is against a former world champion.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Akaho - December 3
Post by: Fredomago on November 06, 2022, 03:59:16 PM
Indeed since it is a non-title fight, it isn't that big but it is a very interesting fight since Akaho has floored several Filipino boxers.  I think he is not beaten in his fight against Filipino fighter so this is somehow intriguing if Akaho will continue his streak of beating Filipino fighter or Casimero will avenge his fellow Filipinos that loses to Akaho. Take note Akaho last fight was against a Filipino boxer Edrin Dapudong whom he knocked out in the first round last September 3, 2022 at the Korakuen Hall in Tokyo, Japan.[1]

Checking Akaho's previous fights against Filipino boxers, I can say that most of those are not even in a good ranking nor being a strong contender.

Different from John Riel Casimero that already proven as one of the strong boxers in the Bantamweight although this match is under the Super Bantamweight Division but should not be a different environment for him.

This will be Akaho's biggest challenge against a Filipino boxer as he is against a former world champion.
It's not that far from the last weight division where Casimero became a champ, he can still move the same and his fighting skills especially his speed is still applicable though the opponents strength might be tougher from this new weight but proper adjustments and enough trainings and sparring may let Casimero to stand out and bring the win.

Akaho maybe win from those past fights against Pilipino fighters, but Casimero is another class. He is a champion before
and he can adjust and possible taking solid punches from his opponent.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Akaho - December 3
Post by: Baofeng on November 06, 2022, 11:24:30 PM
But I'm just curious regarding on his weight, any news about him? It's so unlikely that we're not getting any news from him, I just wanna know if he's still struggling to get the required weight in this division.

He only struggled to maintain weight at around 118 lbs therefore at 122-125 lbs, there should be at least no problem.

Not that much news about him because we can fairly assume that this fight is not really a big fight to consider.

Maybe a few days or weeks before the fight, we can at least see some local sports news giving pre-match analysis on this fight.

True, 118 lbs was really a problem for him and I think his body can't no longer go that low without giving him any problems. So it's a right move for him to go 122 lbs, and I will speculate that he won't have a problem making this weight this time. If his walking weight is around 126 - 130 lbs, then it's easy to shed that 5 lbs or more in the 3-4 months that he will go full and hard training. And I will also assumed that he will get someone to monitor his weight along the way just to make sure that there will be no issues in his new weight class.

Agree with you both. Struggling in the 118 lbs is even the big reason to consider why he moved up weight as they don't want to struggle anymore catching that weight because maybe in Casimero's current lifestyle, he's now playing at around 125 lbs to 130 lbs.

Besides, if ever he is still at over 10 lbs at the required catchweight a few days before this match, he is allowed to do the sauna and everything lol. The use of a sauna is only prohibited under the terms of the British Boxing Council that's why Donaire even points out that it should not be the reason for Casimero being stripped with the title although the point there is, Casimero should follow the jurisdiction of the host country.

Yes, it will be smooth transition moving to 122 lbs and I do believed that he can carry his power to that new division.

Donaire could be right about Casimero's case, but the problem is, this is the second time that he has been given chance by WBO to perform his duty as the champion. In the first supposedly fight with Butler, he goes down and become ill. He was given the chance by the organization when he submitted a medical report (and I suspect that he has difficulty already making the weight that time). But in the second one, he clearly violated BBBoC and the WBO can't do anything or their hands are force to stripped Casimero of his world title and Butler winning it against Sultan.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Akaho - December 3
Post by: harizen on November 06, 2022, 11:35:28 PM
It's not that far from the last weight division where Casimero became a champ, he can still move the same and his fighting skills especially his speed is still applicable though the opponents strength might be tougher from this new weight but proper adjustments and enough trainings and sparring may let Casimero to stand out and bring the win.

I'm expecting Casimero to be like that. No offense to Akaho but this should be an easy fight for Casimero.

If we can expect a 100% healthy Casimero like the way he performed as a WBO Bantamweight Champion, I'm seeing no reason how Akaho can keep up against him. However, if there will be an upset here (and I'm not ruling out that),, and let's say Akaho got the win, Casimero needs to deeply think about what the problem is.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Akaho - December 3
Post by: serjent05 on November 06, 2022, 11:49:03 PM


Checking Akaho's previous fights against Filipino boxers, I can say that most of those are not even in a good ranking nor being a strong contender.

I agree but still defeating lots of Filipino boxers is somehow a feat of its own even though those boxers aren't considered elite.  It still leaves a mark that somehow Akaho is a Filipino executioner.

Different from John Riel Casimero that already proven as one of the strong boxers in the Bantamweight although this match is under the Super Bantamweight Division but should not be a different environment for him.

This will be Akaho's biggest challenge against a Filipino boxer as he is against a former world champion.

Yeah, this maybe the biggest challenge Philippines can give to Akaho after beating 5 or 6 Filipino boxers.  I hope we can see Casimero defeating Akaho via KO or TKO to avenge those Filipino boxers who lost to Akaho.

Yes, it will be smooth transition moving to 122 lbs and I do believed that he can carry his power to that new division.

Donaire could be right about Casimero's case, but the problem is, this is the second time that he has been given chance by WBO to perform his duty as the champion. In the first supposedly fight with Butler, he goes down and become ill. He was given the chance by the organization when he submitted a medical report (and I suspect that he has difficulty already making the weight that time). But in the second one, he clearly violated BBBoC and the WBO can't do anything or their hands are force to stripped Casimero of his world title and Butler winning it against Sultan.

It is Casimero and his camp's fault but what happened happens, now that he is in the Division where we can easily meet the weight requirement, I think we can see better performing Casimero, so I think Akaho is in for a huge surprise this time.  ;D


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Akaho - December 3
Post by: agustina2 on November 06, 2022, 11:58:27 PM
It is Casimero and his camp's fault but what happened happens, now that he is in the Division where we can easily meet the weight requirement, I think we can see better performing Casimero, so I think Akaho is in for a huge surprise this time.  ;D

Casimero shouldn't have to struggle against Akaho that does not even have a big name to consider.

This will be a good comeback fight for him after being inactive for a year.

I don't see Casimero losing this match but if does happened, it's a disgrace for him.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Akaho - December 3
Post by: Fredomago on November 07, 2022, 01:20:34 AM
It's not that far from the last weight division where Casimero became a champ, he can still move the same and his fighting skills especially his speed is still applicable though the opponents strength might be tougher from this new weight but proper adjustments and enough trainings and sparring may let Casimero to stand out and bring the win.

I'm expecting Casimero to be like that. No offense to Akaho but this should be an easy fight for Casimero.

If we can expect a 100% healthy Casimero like the way he performed as a WBO Bantamweight Champion, I'm seeing no reason how Akaho can keep up against him. However, if there will be an upset here (and I'm not ruling out that),, and let's say Akaho got the win, Casimero needs to deeply think about what the problem is.

He need the boost to hype his career (Casimero) I'm pretty sure that he still hungry and wanted to bring his name back into the limelight, he will start from here and slowly take small steps at a time to make sure that he will have achieved his goal. How he performs in this upcoming fight will give him the impression from this division, he really needed to standout and made his presence be felt by possible next opponents, more on the promoter's side in terms of selling Casimero if ever he won this fight.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Akaho - December 3
Post by: bitterguy28 on November 07, 2022, 02:29:10 AM
It's not that far from the last weight division where Casimero became a champ, he can still move the same and his fighting skills especially his speed is still applicable though the opponents strength might be tougher from this new weight but proper adjustments and enough trainings and sparring may let Casimero to stand out and bring the win.

I'm expecting Casimero to be like that. No offense to Akaho but this should be an easy fight for Casimero.

If we can expect a 100% healthy Casimero like the way he performed as a WBO Bantamweight Champion, I'm seeing no reason how Akaho can keep up against him. However, if there will be an upset here (and I'm not ruling out that),, and let's say Akaho got the win, Casimero needs to deeply think about what the problem is.

He need the boost to hype his career (Casimero) I'm pretty sure that he still hungry and wanted to bring his name back into the limelight, he will start from here and slowly take small steps at a time to make sure that he will have achieved his goal. How he performs in this upcoming fight will give him the impression from this division, he really needed to standout and made his presence be felt by possible next opponents, more on the promoter's side in terms of selling Casimero if ever he won this fight.

Casimero truly has a potential of being one of the most famous Boxer from the Philippines , but first he must learn how to bring His attitude inside the business because Popularity is not only about how you are good in the ring but also how you portray your role as boxer for the next generation.
though indeed that this is an easy fight for casimero because all of the advantage is in His side.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Akaho - December 3
Post by: inthelongrun on November 07, 2022, 06:10:34 AM

It's not that far from the last weight division where Casimero became a champ, he can still move the same and his fighting skills especially his speed is still applicable though the opponents strength might be tougher from this new weight but proper adjustments and enough trainings and sparring may let Casimero to stand out and bring the win.
Casimero always put a lot of efforts on the training when it comes there's a new opponent. Wherein he always push his limit. so for me it's not surprising that despite of the record of the opponent he can win and knock it out.. This will be more interesting to watch tbh.

Let's find out. I believe he can win against Akaho. Akaho is already 36 and fought for a world title 2 times but he failed them all. This is only a tune-up fight for Casimero at 122 to shake off his ring rust and test his new weight but far to become a basis for his chance at WBA/IBF champion Murodjon Akhmadaliev and WBO/WBC Stephen Fulton.

If Casimero insists on staying at 122 after this, he will have to fight a top-10-ranked opponent in order to solidify his position late next year. Akhmadaliev is expected to fight another Filipino in Marlon Tapales early next year for his IBF mandatory defense. I think Fulton is the target of Inoue next year if he beats Butler and becomes undisputed.

Another interesting stuff I learned is that Akhmadaliev is now promoted by Matchroom Boxing a partner of DAZN. Fulton is promoted by PBC and uses Showtime and Fox as its channels. Inoue is with Top Rank whose fights are televised by ESPN. I begin to wonder if Inoue can really fight Fulton after his Butler fight. Casimero after a fallout with Manny Pacquiao's promotion signed with Probellum a close friend of PBC although I am not sure if the contract remained valid after the cancellation of his previous fights.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Akaho - December 3
Post by: carlisle1 on November 07, 2022, 08:57:07 AM

It's not that far from the last weight division where Casimero became a champ, he can still move the same and his fighting skills especially his speed is still applicable though the opponents strength might be tougher from this new weight but proper adjustments and enough trainings and sparring may let Casimero to stand out and bring the win.
Casimero always put a lot of efforts on the training when it comes there's a new opponent. Wherein he always push his limit. so for me it's not surprising that despite of the record of the opponent he can win and knock it out.. This will be more interesting to watch tbh.

He was away quite a while but yes, Casimero always take his fight as serious as it is. He's preparing and really bringing all in when he fought
inside the ring, the reason why fans want to see him fight from his last title division.

We will see if how he will finish this fight but we also need to consider that Akaho will do the same, preparing is what fighters are doing
not just physical but also mental,

watching tapes to understand the capabilities of their opponents and to review how they can counter and anticipate the next attack
or what kind of defense their opponents have.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Akaho - December 3
Post by: Yaunfitda on November 07, 2022, 09:13:53 AM

It's not that far from the last weight division where Casimero became a champ, he can still move the same and his fighting skills especially his speed is still applicable though the opponents strength might be tougher from this new weight but proper adjustments and enough trainings and sparring may let Casimero to stand out and bring the win.
Casimero always put a lot of efforts on the training when it comes there's a new opponent. Wherein he always push his limit. so for me it's not surprising that despite of the record of the opponent he can win and knock it out.. This will be more interesting to watch tbh.

Another interesting stuff I learned is that Akhmadaliev is now promoted by Matchroom Boxing a partner of DAZN. Fulton is promoted by PBC and uses Showtime and Fox as its channels. Inoue is with Top Rank whose fights are televised by ESPN. I begin to wonder if Inoue can really fight Fulton after his Butler fight. Casimero after a fallout with Manny Pacquiao's promotion signed with Probellum a close friend of PBC although I am not sure if the contract remained valid after the cancellation of his previous fights.
If this is the case then I don't think that we see Fulton vs Inoue yet, it will take a lot of time and negotiations for this 2 fighters to face each other. And if Casimero is still with Richard Schaefer, then I think him and Inoue chances to fight is higher since him and Arum have a good relationship as far as I know.

So another complicated things in this division and we might not see a unification after all with this boxing politics. Probably it's better for us boxing fans to see how Casimero will do in his maiden 122 lbs fight.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Akaho - December 3
Post by: yazher on November 07, 2022, 10:14:22 AM

Casimero shouldn't have to struggle against Akaho that does not even have a big name to consider.

This will be a good comeback fight for him after being inactive for a year.

I don't see Casimero losing this match but if does happened, it's a disgrace for him.

Casimero is hungry for a fight and this guy Akaho is just at the wrong time and the wrong place. If Casimero is healthy, the fight will be over as soon as he can feel that he can take his opponent's punches because Casimero always wanted to clash in the middle of the ring to make the fight exciting and entertaining for the fans. His last fight was totally messed up because his opponent doesn't want to exchange punches with him and ran all the way through the rounds. Let's just hope this time will be different because we wanted to see him fighting Inoue.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Akaho - December 3
Post by: Ziskinberg on November 07, 2022, 01:16:42 PM

Casimero shouldn't have to struggle against Akaho that does not even have a big name to consider.

This will be a good comeback fight for him after being inactive for a year.

I don't see Casimero losing this match but if does happened, it's a disgrace for him.

Casimero is hungry for a fight and this guy Akaho is just at the wrong time and the wrong place. If Casimero is healthy, the fight will be over as soon as he can feel that he can take his opponent's punches because Casimero always wanted to clash in the middle of the ring to make the fight exciting and entertaining for the fans. His last fight was totally messed up because his opponent doesn't want to exchange punches with him and ran all the way through the rounds. Let's just hope this time will be different because we wanted to see him fighting Inoue.

Of course, Casimero will make sure he will win impressively because that's his ticket to the next big fight. We don't know whom he will fight with but I'm pretty sure it's a boxer with a good ranking in this division if he is not a champion. No more weight issues, we should be able to see a strong Casimero in this fight.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Akaho - December 3
Post by: Vaculin on November 07, 2022, 03:18:03 PM
A good challenge to him now, preparing for his upcoming fight, a new division which would be the first step in his new journey.

The first step and his possible first win, well, there should be no problem with him in this fight, it's on the division that he is comfortable, there is no more weight issues for sure and we will again see Casimero winning via KO. There's a reason why he is the heavy favorite here, that's because people still believe that he still is a champion.

Also, in the world of boxing, Casimero is much more known and people already know what he can do while this Ryo Akaho is not that known yet because as you can see on his record, he's more like a local boxer but he made an appearance in this very industry once way back 2015 but returned to local fights right away because he was defeated badly by a Thailand boxer by a way of KO.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Akaho - December 3
Post by: serjent05 on November 07, 2022, 06:08:50 PM
So another complicated things in this division and we might not see a unification after all with this boxing politics. Probably it's better for us boxing fans to see how Casimero will do in his maiden 122 lbs fight.

It would be one of the possible interesting matches of Casimero's 122 lbs adventure is a rematch against Zolani Tete.  We all know that Casimero had KO'ed  Tete in 3rd round of their fight and now Tete is somehow doing well in 122 lbs getting 2 KO victories and Won Commonwealth, IBF International, and vacant WBO International super bantamweight titles[1]

Also, in the world of boxing, Casimero is much more known and people already know what he can do while this Ryo Akaho is not that known yet because as you can see on his record, he's more like a local boxer but he made an appearance in this very industry once way back 2015 but returned to local fights right away because he was defeated badly by a Thailand boxer by a way of KO.


I think being popular does not mean they are a better boxer, look at Canelo and Bivol, Canelo is way more popular than Bivol and yet Bivol dominates their fight.  So I think the better boxer isn't about how popular they are but how skilled they are.  Popularity is more on the promoter's job by cherry-picking opponents and making their boxers look powerful.

So we don't know whether Akaho is not a match for Casimero until we have seen the conclusion of their match.





[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zolani_Tete


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Akaho - December 3
Post by: TimeTeller on November 07, 2022, 07:02:40 PM
So another complicated things in this division and we might not see a unification after all with this boxing politics. Probably it's better for us boxing fans to see how Casimero will do in his maiden 122 lbs fight.

It would be one of the possible interesting matches of Casimero's 122 lbs adventure is a rematch against Zolani Tete.  We all know that Casimero had KO'ed  Tete in 3rd round of their fight and now Tete is somehow doing well in 122 lbs getting 2 KO victories and Won Commonwealth, IBF International, and vacant WBO International super bantamweight titles[1]

Also, in the world of boxing, Casimero is much more known and people already know what he can do while this Ryo Akaho is not that known yet because as you can see on his record, he's more like a local boxer but he made an appearance in this very industry once way back 2015 but returned to local fights right away because he was defeated badly by a Thailand boxer by a way of KO.

I think being popular does not mean they are a better boxer, look at Canelo and Bivol, Canelo is way more popular than Bivol and yet Bivol dominates their fight.  So I think the better boxer isn't about how popular they are but how skilled they are.  Popularity is more on the promoter's job by cherry-picking opponents and making their boxers look powerful.

So we don't know whether Akaho is not a match for Casimero until we have seen the conclusion of their match.


[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zolani_Tete

I also want to watch this fight to see the caliber of Akaho as compared to Casimero.
As Casimero had several troubles when it comes achieving the right weight in the past,
hopefully this division won't give him any problem and should be an easy one for him.
I watched his fight with Rigo, and of course he's the aggressive one at that time as Rigo kept on running away.
Anyway, hopefully, we will see the aggressive Casimero on this match as he needs to vindicate himself.
Butler and Inoue were his supposedly the opponents but I don't think the Inoue fight will materialize anymore if they will go separate paths.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Akaho - December 3
Post by: carlfebz2 on November 07, 2022, 07:16:09 PM
A good challenge to him now, preparing for his upcoming fight, a new division which would be the first step in his new journey.

The first step and his possible first win, well, there should be no problem with him in this fight, it's on the division that he is comfortable, there is no more weight issues for sure and we will again see Casimero winning via KO. There's a reason why he is the heavy favorite here, that's because people still believe that he still is a champion.

Also, in the world of boxing, Casimero is much more known and people already know what he can do while this Ryo Akaho is not that known yet because as you can see on his record, he's more like a local boxer but he made an appearance in this very industry once way back 2015 but returned to local fights right away because he was defeated badly by a Thailand boxer by a way of KO.
After that 2015 fight then he do made out comeback on winning his fights until up to date although these are local fights.
https://boxrec.com/en/box-pro/296790

When we do speak about on paper the he had
39   2   2
26 KOs   1 KOs   

Which i could say that this isnt something that Casimero should really be that confident.
KO percentage is considerably high so this wont be an easy peazy.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Akaho - December 3
Post by: goinmerry on November 07, 2022, 11:44:53 PM
Not degrading Casimero but this new environment of 122 lbs is really not for him. Akaho should be an easy win for him but taking on the current top 10 in the super bantamweight some of those are even undefeated. Let's say he got lucky to climb the top 5, the champions here are really tough to beat and I doubt Casimero can match those 2 champions holding the super bantamweight titles.

I hope Casimero can be considered by Inoue once the latter moved up weight. Inoue is expected not to go directly facing those champions once he moved up but for that fight against Casimero should happen, the Quadro Alas of PH should at least make it to the top rankings to be considered.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Akaho - December 3
Post by: chaser15 on November 07, 2022, 11:59:41 PM
I also want to watch this fight to see the caliber of Akaho as compared to Casimero.
As Casimero had several troubles when it comes achieving the right weight in the past,
hopefully this division won't give him any problem and should be an easy one for him.
I watched his fight with Rigo, and of course he's the aggressive one at that time as Rigo kept on running away.
Anyway, hopefully, we will see the aggressive Casimero on this match as he needs to vindicate himself.
Butler and Inoue were his supposedly the opponents but I don't think the Inoue fight will materialize anymore if they will go separate paths.

Since he moved up now, the weight problem by Casimero should not be a big hindrance now.

Akaho should be a test fight for him and not consider him a threat. He might defeat other Filipino boxers but no way he supposed to match the skills and level of Casimero. Casimero has no room losing on this match or else that will be a disgrace to him for someone who wants to target Inoue in the future.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Akaho - December 3
Post by: Jawhead999 on November 08, 2022, 01:59:29 AM
Let's say he got lucky to climb the top 5, the champions here are really tough to beat and I doubt Casimero can match those 2 champions holding the super bantamweight titles.

I hope Casimero can be considered by Inoue once the latter moved up weight. Inoue is expected not to go directly facing those champions once he moved up but for that fight against Casimero should happen, the Quadro Alas of PH should at least make it to the top rankings to be considered.
IMO those 2 champions at super bantamweight division is more easier than Inoue, if Casimero will fight against Inoue, there's no hope Casimero can win. At least Casimero need to beat either 2-3 boxers at this weight before taking a challenge to fight one of those champions, I think Murodjon Akhmadalievb is easier than Stephen Fulton to beat. It seems there's no way for Casimero to escape against Inoue, we might see they will fight each other sooner or later.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Akaho - December 3
Post by: carlisle1 on November 08, 2022, 11:54:33 AM
I also want to watch this fight to see the caliber of Akaho as compared to Casimero.
As Casimero had several troubles when it comes achieving the right weight in the past,
hopefully this division won't give him any problem and should be an easy one for him.
I watched his fight with Rigo, and of course he's the aggressive one at that time as Rigo kept on running away.
Anyway, hopefully, we will see the aggressive Casimero on this match as he needs to vindicate himself.
Butler and Inoue were his supposedly the opponents but I don't think the Inoue fight will materialize anymore if they will go separate paths.

Since he moved up now, the weight problem by Casimero should not be a big hindrance now.

Akaho should be a test fight for him and not consider him a threat. He might defeat other Filipino boxers but no way he supposed to match the skills and level of Casimero. Casimero has no room losing on this match or else that will be a disgrace to him for someone who wants to target Inoue in the future.

He should win this fight if he really aiming to create and established his name in this new division, the weight should no longer the issue
as mentioned, he already moves up no need to make a huge diet.

He can comfortably move with this weight and use all he got without compromising anything, might be possible to add more muscles
if it's still permitted to the weight from this division.

We will see the impact of him once he already beat Akaho, for sure lots of talk in his name after.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Akaho - December 3
Post by: Hypnosis00 on November 08, 2022, 11:58:34 AM
Let's say he got lucky to climb the top 5, the champions here are really tough to beat and I doubt Casimero can match those 2 champions holding the super bantamweight titles.

I hope Casimero can be considered by Inoue once the latter moved up weight. Inoue is expected not to go directly facing those champions once he moved up but for that fight against Casimero should happen, the Quadro Alas of PH should at least make it to the top rankings to be considered.
IMO those 2 champions at super bantamweight division is more easier than Inoue, if Casimero will fight against Inoue, there's no hope Casimero can win. At least Casimero need to beat either 2-3 boxers at this weight before taking a challenge to fight one of those champions, I think Murodjon Akhmadalievb is easier than Stephen Fulton to beat. It seems there's no way for Casimero to escape against Inoue, we might see they will fight each other sooner or later.

That's too much underestimating on Casimero, no hope? Are you kidding me? I believe Inoue is the better fighter but I believe that Casimero still has a chance of winning the fight. Though his chance is going to be slim, but if we are looking for a chance, there should be a chance.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Akaho - December 3
Post by: Fredomago on November 08, 2022, 01:27:36 PM
A good challenge to him now, preparing for his upcoming fight, a new division which would be the first step in his new journey.

The first step and his possible first win, well, there should be no problem with him in this fight, it's on the division that he is comfortable, there is no more weight issues for sure and we will again see Casimero winning via KO. There's a reason why he is the heavy favorite here, that's because people still believe that he still is a champion.

Also, in the world of boxing, Casimero is much more known and people already know what he can do while this Ryo Akaho is not that known yet because as you can see on his record, he's more like a local boxer but he made an appearance in this very industry once way back 2015 but returned to local fights right away because he was defeated badly by a Thailand boxer by a way of KO.
After that 2015 fight then he do made out comeback on winning his fights until up to date although these are local fights.
https://boxrec.com/en/box-pro/296790

When we do speak about on paper the he had
39   2   2
26 KOs   1 KOs   

Which i could say that this isnt something that Casimero should really be that confident.
KO percentage is considerably high so this wont be an easy peazy.


Something that Casimero's camp is reviewing right now, we know how the drill works when preparing for the fight not only physical but more on strategy that needs to execute during the fight, the more you understand your opponent's game plan the better you can do your counter attack, Casimero needs to play this one and command the tempo of this fight, he should engage and try to beat Akaho with a KO.

It will bring more advertisement to his career if he will gain the social media exposures.

I trust Casimero to bring his pride in this fight. It will boost his confident when taking another fight, a good money fight.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Akaho - December 3
Post by: Shamm on November 08, 2022, 03:02:27 PM
A good challenge to him now, preparing for his upcoming fight, a new division which would be the first step in his new journey.

The first step and his possible first win, well, there should be no problem with him in this fight, it's on the division that he is comfortable, there is no more weight issues for sure and we will again see Casimero winning via KO. There's a reason why he is the heavy favorite here, that's because people still believe that he still is a champion.

Also, in the world of boxing, Casimero is much more known and people already know what he can do while this Ryo Akaho is not that known yet because as you can see on his record, he's more like a local boxer but he made an appearance in this very industry once way back 2015 but returned to local fights right away because he was defeated badly by a Thailand boxer by a way of KO.
After that 2015 fight then he do made out comeback on winning his fights until up to date although these are local fights.
https://boxrec.com/en/box-pro/296790

When we do speak about on paper the he had
39   2   2
26 KOs   1 KOs   

Which i could say that this isnt something that Casimero should really be that confident.
KO percentage is considerably high so this wont be an easy peazy.


Something that Casimero's camp is reviewing right now, we know how the drill works when preparing for the fight not only physical but more on strategy that needs to execute during the fight, the more you understand your opponent's game plan the better you can do your counter attack, Casimero needs to play this one and command the tempo of this fight, he should engage and try to beat Akaho with a KO.

It will bring more advertisement to his career if he will gain the social media exposures.

I trust Casimero to bring his pride in this fight. It will boost his confident when taking another fight, a good money fight.

For sure casimero and his team trained harder to maintain the momentum and health care of their fighter as this is the best thing to do before the fight and also studied the movement of the opponent is a must in order to counter and develop a good defense, casimero is hungry right now which is pretty sure that he will do his best in order to win this fight and bring his name back to the crowd.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Akaho - December 3
Post by: Japinat on November 08, 2022, 03:30:55 PM
A good challenge to him now, preparing for his upcoming fight, a new division which would be the first step in his new journey.

The first step and his possible first win, well, there should be no problem with him in this fight, it's on the division that he is comfortable, there is no more weight issues for sure and we will again see Casimero winning via KO. There's a reason why he is the heavy favorite here, that's because people still believe that he still is a champion.

Also, in the world of boxing, Casimero is much more known and people already know what he can do while this Ryo Akaho is not that known yet because as you can see on his record, he's more like a local boxer but he made an appearance in this very industry once way back 2015 but returned to local fights right away because he was defeated badly by a Thailand boxer by a way of KO.
After that 2015 fight then he do made out comeback on winning his fights until up to date although these are local fights.
https://boxrec.com/en/box-pro/296790

When we do speak about on paper the he had
39   2   2
26 KOs   1 KOs   

Which i could say that this isnt something that Casimero should really be that confident.
KO percentage is considerably high so this wont be an easy peazy.


Something that Casimero's camp is reviewing right now, we know how the drill works when preparing for the fight not only physical but more on strategy that needs to execute during the fight, the more you understand your opponent's game plan the better you can do your counter attack, Casimero needs to play this one and command the tempo of this fight, he should engage and try to beat Akaho with a KO.

It will bring more advertisement to his career if he will gain the social media exposures.

I trust Casimero to bring his pride in this fight. It will boost his confident when taking another fight, a good money fight.

Yes, very likely because they know what Casimero needs right now to bring the past on his back as if you'll mention Casimero, people will just remember him of his recent difficulties and that he was stripped by his belt because of the unprecedented situation. Now, they'll need to study the other camp and analyze the sequence to lift Casimero's name again. A KO will be a good way to erase those doubts (if there's any) and will send a message.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Akaho - December 3
Post by: inthelongrun on November 09, 2022, 06:32:06 AM

It's not that far from the last weight division where Casimero became a champ, he can still move the same and his fighting skills especially his speed is still applicable though the opponents strength might be tougher from this new weight but proper adjustments and enough trainings and sparring may let Casimero to stand out and bring the win.
Casimero always put a lot of efforts on the training when it comes there's a new opponent. Wherein he always push his limit. so for me it's not surprising that despite of the record of the opponent he can win and knock it out.. This will be more interesting to watch tbh.

Another interesting stuff I learned is that Akhmadaliev is now promoted by Matchroom Boxing a partner of DAZN. Fulton is promoted by PBC and uses Showtime and Fox as its channels. Inoue is with Top Rank whose fights are televised by ESPN. I begin to wonder if Inoue can really fight Fulton after his Butler fight. Casimero after a fallout with Manny Pacquiao's promotion signed with Probellum a close friend of PBC although I am not sure if the contract remained valid after the cancellation of his previous fights.
If this is the case then I don't think that we see Fulton vs Inoue yet, it will take a lot of time and negotiations for this 2 fighters to face each other. And if Casimero is still with Richard Schaefer, then I think him and Inoue chances to fight is higher since him and Arum have a good relationship as far as I know.

So another complicated things in this division and we might not see a unification after all with this boxing politics. Probably it's better for us boxing fans to see how Casimero will do in his maiden 122 lbs fight.
I think Casimero will overcome Akaho. I am more interested in how well Casimero beat Akaho. If Casimero only wins a close fight or a tough win then he is in danger against the Akhmadaliev and Fulton.

If Casimero is still with Probellum then I think it won't be that hard for him to negotiate with Fulton, Inoue, and even Akhmadaliev. Although he might really need to rank up first to get a shot at them.     


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Akaho - December 3
Post by: carlisle1 on November 09, 2022, 10:51:04 AM

It's not that far from the last weight division where Casimero became a champ, he can still move the same and his fighting skills especially his speed is still applicable though the opponents strength might be tougher from this new weight but proper adjustments and enough trainings and sparring may let Casimero to stand out and bring the win.
Casimero always put a lot of efforts on the training when it comes there's a new opponent. Wherein he always push his limit. so for me it's not surprising that despite of the record of the opponent he can win and knock it out.. This will be more interesting to watch tbh.

Another interesting stuff I learned is that Akhmadaliev is now promoted by Matchroom Boxing a partner of DAZN. Fulton is promoted by PBC and uses Showtime and Fox as its channels. Inoue is with Top Rank whose fights are televised by ESPN. I begin to wonder if Inoue can really fight Fulton after his Butler fight. Casimero after a fallout with Manny Pacquiao's promotion signed with Probellum a close friend of PBC although I am not sure if the contract remained valid after the cancellation of his previous fights.
If this is the case then I don't think that we see Fulton vs Inoue yet, it will take a lot of time and negotiations for this 2 fighters to face each other. And if Casimero is still with Richard Schaefer, then I think him and Inoue chances to fight is higher since him and Arum have a good relationship as far as I know.

So another complicated things in this division and we might not see a unification after all with this boxing politics. Probably it's better for us boxing fans to see how Casimero will do in his maiden 122 lbs fight.
I think Casimero will overcome Akaho. I am more interested in how well Casimero beat Akaho. If Casimero only wins a close fight or a tough win then he is in danger against the Akhmadaliev and Fulton.

If Casimero is still with Probellum then I think it won't be that hard for him to negotiate with Fulton, Inoue, and even Akhmadaliev. Although he might really need to rank up first to get a shot at them.     
Your last statement is true. Casimero needs to work harder to make his presence in this new division before he can ask for better opponents.
else, he can KO Akaho with a passionate way of winning to hype his name.

We all know how effective social media is , if he will be hype by many supporters and be noticed by sporting social media channels, his chance
to bring a decent challenger will give him the chance to negotiate to a title fight.

Take care of Akaho first, then expect more fights for Casimero in this division.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Akaho - December 3
Post by: stadus on November 09, 2022, 05:14:48 PM

It's not that far from the last weight division where Casimero became a champ, he can still move the same and his fighting skills especially his speed is still applicable though the opponents strength might be tougher from this new weight but proper adjustments and enough trainings and sparring may let Casimero to stand out and bring the win.
Casimero always put a lot of efforts on the training when it comes there's a new opponent. Wherein he always push his limit. so for me it's not surprising that despite of the record of the opponent he can win and knock it out.. This will be more interesting to watch tbh.

Another interesting stuff I learned is that Akhmadaliev is now promoted by Matchroom Boxing a partner of DAZN. Fulton is promoted by PBC and uses Showtime and Fox as its channels. Inoue is with Top Rank whose fights are televised by ESPN. I begin to wonder if Inoue can really fight Fulton after his Butler fight. Casimero after a fallout with Manny Pacquiao's promotion signed with Probellum a close friend of PBC although I am not sure if the contract remained valid after the cancellation of his previous fights.
If this is the case then I don't think that we see Fulton vs Inoue yet, it will take a lot of time and negotiations for this 2 fighters to face each other. And if Casimero is still with Richard Schaefer, then I think him and Inoue chances to fight is higher since him and Arum have a good relationship as far as I know.

So another complicated things in this division and we might not see a unification after all with this boxing politics. Probably it's better for us boxing fans to see how Casimero will do in his maiden 122 lbs fight.
I think Casimero will overcome Akaho. I am more interested in how well Casimero beat Akaho. If Casimero only wins a close fight or a tough win then he is in danger against the Akhmadaliev and Fulton.

If Casimero is still with Probellum then I think it won't be that hard for him to negotiate with Fulton, Inoue, and even Akhmadaliev. Although he might really need to rank up first to get a shot at them.     

Casimero will because he needed to, he won't have the chance to redeem his name and situation if he will just barely defeat Akaho because that will just gather speculations that he don't have enough skills to carry out a plan to defeat the champions in this division. He himself knows that he needs to deliver an impressive win to break the chain.

Regarding the politics with Fulton, Inoue and Akhmadaliev. Casimero shouldn't have to worry about that now because he still quite far from reality to meet those people, he need to overcome his debut first before anything else. About that, I'm also curious as well about Casimero's plan to defeat Akaho.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Akaho - December 3
Post by: vatanen on November 10, 2022, 05:40:25 AM
Even though akaho has the advantage based on the statistics, I am confident that casimero will win this fight in his new weight class because he is currently in his peak.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Akaho - December 3
Post by: Fredomago on November 10, 2022, 12:05:58 PM
Casimero will because he needed to, he won't have the chance to redeem his name and situation if he will just barely defeat Akaho because that will just gather speculations that he don't have enough skills to carry out a plan to defeat the champions in this division. He himself knows that he needs to deliver an impressive win to break the chain.

I agree with that. He needs to make sure that he will end this fight with an impressive outcome, if he wanted to be feel in this new division he should bring something for the fans, though we all knew that he already have his resume way back from his old weight division but now, it's a new one and there are champs who are more ready to face him and in beating him if chances to have a faceoff takes place.

Quote
Regarding the politics with Fulton, Inoue and Akhmadaliev. Casimero shouldn't have to worry about that now because he still quite far from reality to meet those people, he need to overcome his debut first before anything else. About that, I'm also curious as well about Casimero's plan to defeat Akaho.

He should focus on how he will deliver the signal that he is in business, moving to those known names in this division. Casimero needs to bring himself and a call from the fans for that chance of a title or money fight.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Akaho - December 3
Post by: Natalim on November 10, 2022, 12:32:45 PM
Even though akaho has the advantage based on the statistics, I am confident that casimero will win this fight in his new weight class because he is currently in his peak.

What statistics are your basing? Don't you know that Casimero was a previous champion? Actually, I don't even know his opponent, maybe he is not popular, so in what sense do you see that Akaho has an advantage? I'm just curious mate.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Akaho - December 3
Post by: mirakal on November 10, 2022, 03:27:43 PM
But I'm just curious regarding on his weight, any news about him? It's so unlikely that we're not getting any news from him, I just wanna know if he's still struggling to get the required weight in this division.

He only struggled to maintain weight at around 118 lbs therefore at 122-125 lbs, there should be at least no problem.

Not that much news about him because we can fairly assume that this fight is not really a big fight to consider.

Maybe a few days or weeks before the fight, we can at least see some local sports news giving pre-match analysis on this fight.



But it is not a small fight either because this is his redemption and first fight in super bantamweight, people will be surely watching him because they haven't saw him for quite a while now, more than a year. Hopefully he doesn't have any struggles in his weight in his division. Anyway, are the fight odds out already?


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Akaho - December 3
Post by: stadus on November 10, 2022, 04:51:47 PM
Casimero will because he needed to, he won't have the chance to redeem his name and situation if he will just barely defeat Akaho because that will just gather speculations that he don't have enough skills to carry out a plan to defeat the champions in this division. He himself knows that he needs to deliver an impressive win to break the chain.

I agree with that. He needs to make sure that he will end this fight with an impressive outcome, if he wanted to be feel in this new division he should bring something for the fans, though we all knew that he already have his resume way back from his old weight division but now, it's a new one and there are champs who are more ready to face him and in beating him if chances to have a faceoff takes place.

Quote
Regarding the politics with Fulton, Inoue and Akhmadaliev. Casimero shouldn't have to worry about that now because he still quite far from reality to meet those people, he need to overcome his debut first before anything else. About that, I'm also curious as well about Casimero's plan to defeat Akaho.

He should focus on how he will deliver the signal that he is in business, moving to those known names in this division. Casimero needs to bring himself and a call from the fans for that chance of a title or money fight.


Yes, barely winning wouldn't help his situation at all because he will be just viewed as a regular challenger soon enough and Inoue will be also joining him soon, so it will be a much tougher division. It will be a challenge for him of course as this is a different division and his power might have been affected by the weight climb, but let's see what he can give in this weight class.

The two champions will be surely watching on this fight because they know the noise that Casimero made and that will be an enough reason that he should give his 100% percent in defeating Akaho.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Akaho - December 3
Post by: Fredomago on November 10, 2022, 07:22:52 PM

Yes, barely winning wouldn't help his situation at all because he will be just viewed as a regular challenger soon enough and Inoue will be also joining him soon, so it will be a much tougher division. It will be a challenge for him of course as this is a different division and his power might have been affected by the weight climb, but let's see what he can give in this weight class.

The two champions will be surely watching on this fight because they know the noise that Casimero made and that will be an enough reason that he should give his 100% percent in defeating Akaho.

This fight will be on the radar of both champ knowing that this attempt of Casimero moving in this new division will be on chasing the title belt, they will monitoring this fight and see if Casimero will be a big threat for them or it's just another ordinary challenger, I mean, Casimero needs to make this appearance more impactful to his new weight division.

It's more likely to say that if in anyhow he will be facing one of the champ, he will have the chance to win the belt.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Akaho - December 3
Post by: btc_angela on November 10, 2022, 09:08:26 PM

Yes, barely winning wouldn't help his situation at all because he will be just viewed as a regular challenger soon enough and Inoue will be also joining him soon, so it will be a much tougher division. It will be a challenge for him of course as this is a different division and his power might have been affected by the weight climb, but let's see what he can give in this weight class.

The two champions will be surely watching on this fight because they know the noise that Casimero made and that will be an enough reason that he should give his 100% percent in defeating Akaho.

This fight will be on the radar of both champ knowing that this attempt of Casimero moving in this new division will be on chasing the title belt, they will monitoring this fight and see if Casimero will be a big threat for them or it's just another ordinary challenger, I mean, Casimero needs to make this appearance more impactful to his new weight division.

It's more likely to say that if in anyhow he will be facing one of the champ, he will have the chance to win the belt.

I think it doesn't matter if Casimero will be a threat, the champion in this division already knows that sooner or later this fighter will go up, him and Inoue. So by now, they should be prepared to go to war for either of this fighter.

And I think boxers love the challenge so they are waiting for this two to go to super bantamweight. Even those that are in the top 5 are more willing to test themselves on this two. So let's see how Casimero will be in 122 lbs, no problem in weight for him, just a question of maybe his power, but I do believed that he can bring it to this weight as well. And so the super bantamweight becomes more exciting.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Akaho - December 3
Post by: TimeTeller on November 10, 2022, 09:14:02 PM

Yes, barely winning wouldn't help his situation at all because he will be just viewed as a regular challenger soon enough and Inoue will be also joining him soon, so it will be a much tougher division. It will be a challenge for him of course as this is a different division and his power might have been affected by the weight climb, but let's see what he can give in this weight class.

The two champions will be surely watching on this fight because they know the noise that Casimero made and that will be an enough reason that he should give his 100% percent in defeating Akaho.

This fight will be on the radar of both champ knowing that this attempt of Casimero moving in this new division will be on chasing the title belt, they will monitoring this fight and see if Casimero will be a big threat for them or it's just another ordinary challenger, I mean, Casimero needs to make this appearance more impactful to his new weight division.

It's more likely to say that if in anyhow he will be facing one of the champ, he will have the chance to win the belt.

I think it doesn't matter if Casimero will be a threat, the champion in this division already knows that sooner or later this fighter will go up, him and Inoue. So by now, they should be prepared to go to war for either of this fighter.

And I think boxers love the challenge so they are waiting for this two to go to super bantamweight. Even those that are in the top 5 are more willing to test themselves on this two. So let's see how Casimero will be in 122 lbs, no problem in weight for him, just a question of maybe his power, but I do believed that he can bring it to this weight as well. And so the super bantamweight becomes more exciting.

Casimero needs to show a very good performance on this fight, meaning he should win on this match.
A lot of users here are always rooting for Casimero, but it was a disappointment when he couldn't even met the weight requirements.
Now, that he is moving up weight division, I do hope that his camp won't find anymore excuses to delay or to postpone the fight.
If he won't step up, his boxing career is in jeopardy as there will be more deserving boxers that will take his place.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Akaho - December 3
Post by: serjent05 on November 10, 2022, 10:54:37 PM

I think Casimero will overcome Akaho. I am more interested in how well Casimero beat Akaho. If Casimero only wins a close fight or a tough win then he is in danger against the Akhmadaliev and Fulton.

If Casimero gets a hard time winning the fight then there is a huge chance that he will have difficulty in the rest of the journey of his current division.  As observed by other members here, although Akaho had beaten lots of Filipino players, he isn't as good as those elite boxers that are on the top ranking.

Casimero needs to show a very good performance on this fight, meaning he should win on this match.
A lot of users here are always rooting for Casimero, but it was a disappointment when he couldn't even met the weight requirements.
Now, that he is moving up weight division, I do hope that his camp won't find anymore excuses to delay or to postpone the fight.
If he won't step up, his boxing career is in jeopardy as there will be more deserving boxers that will take his place.

I highly agree, he needs at least a best performance to erase bad issues where his title was confiscated.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Akaho - December 3
Post by: harizen on November 10, 2022, 11:04:36 PM
We will see the impact of him once he already beat Akaho, for sure lots of talk in his name after.

Not sure about that lots of talk for Casimero once he wins here. Akaho is now at his considered veteran age for a boxer and is not even included in the top rankings. That's why I'm not seeing Casimero winning this match will result in a big appreciation for him since, in the first place, he should have the upper hand in this fight.

Casimero will be back again in the champion-level discussion once he slowly climbs the top ranks.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Akaho - December 3
Post by: Baofeng on November 10, 2022, 11:36:31 PM
We will see the impact of him once he already beat Akaho, for sure lots of talk in his name after.

Not sure about that lots of talk for Casimero once he wins here. Akaho is now at his considered veteran age for a boxer and is not even included in the top rankings. That's why I'm not seeing Casimero winning this match will result in a big appreciation for him since, in the first place, he should have the upper hand in this fight.

Casimero will be back again in the champion-level discussion once he slowly climbs the top ranks.

Casimero has the name, but I do agree that winning against Akaho will not bring any recognition and everyone knows that this is a cherry pick fight for him in this new division. Maybe after he win, he will open his mouth post interview and maybe call the other champion in this division, including Inoue.

So this is just a busy fight for him, and test himself on 122 lbs. For sure, there shouldn't be a problem for him making the weight. It might take him another fight after this to established himself as a big name in super bantamweight.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Akaho - December 3
Post by: chaser15 on November 10, 2022, 11:52:13 PM
We will see the impact of him once he already beat Akaho, for sure lots of talk in his name after.

Not sure about that lots of talk for Casimero once he wins here. Akaho is now at his considered veteran age for a boxer and is not even included in the top rankings. That's why I'm not seeing Casimero winning this match will result in a big appreciation for him since, in the first place, he should have the upper hand in this fight.

Casimero will be back again in the champion-level discussion once he slowly climbs the top ranks.

Casimero has the name, but I do agree that winning against Akaho will not bring any recognition and everyone knows that this is a cherry pick fight for him in this new division. Maybe after he win, he will open his mouth post interview and maybe call the other champion in this division, including Inoue.

So this is just a busy fight for him, and test himself on 122 lbs. For sure, there shouldn't be a problem for him making the weight. It might take him another fight after this to established himself as a big name in super bantamweight.

I agree with you both. This fight was even considered an easy fight for Casimero.

If he wins here, it's just another day in the office and it won't create a big hype on his name.

Akaho is not even a threat to consider that can give Casimero a big problem. In the event that Casimero loses here, that will create big news instead since it means Casimero is no longer eligible for a pro-level competition.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Akaho - December 3
Post by: Yaunfitda on November 11, 2022, 08:08:15 AM
We will see the impact of him once he already beat Akaho, for sure lots of talk in his name after.

Not sure about that lots of talk for Casimero once he wins here. Akaho is now at his considered veteran age for a boxer and is not even included in the top rankings. That's why I'm not seeing Casimero winning this match will result in a big appreciation for him since, in the first place, he should have the upper hand in this fight.

Casimero will be back again in the champion-level discussion once he slowly climbs the top ranks.

Casimero has the name, but I do agree that winning against Akaho will not bring any recognition and everyone knows that this is a cherry pick fight for him in this new division. Maybe after he win, he will open his mouth post interview and maybe call the other champion in this division, including Inoue.

So this is just a busy fight for him, and test himself on 122 lbs. For sure, there shouldn't be a problem for him making the weight. It might take him another fight after this to established himself as a big name in super bantamweight.

I agree with you both. This fight was even considered an easy fight for Casimero.

If he wins here, it's just another day in the office and it won't create a big hype on his name.

Akaho is not even a threat to consider that can give Casimero a big problem. In the event that Casimero loses here, that will create big news instead since it means Casimero is no longer eligible for a pro-level competition.
He can create a hype if he win by a devastating KO? Just like when he tear up the 118 lbs getting the belts in spectacular fashion and then defending it against tough opponent. If Casimero can achieved this, who knows, maybe he can declare himself again as the next champion or calling them out for a fight.

So it won't be just a win that he should get, make it as destruction so that he will be taken very seriously by contenders and champions and maybe he will get a chance again next year for a belt.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Akaho - December 3
Post by: arwin100 on November 11, 2022, 09:20:11 AM
We will see the impact of him once he already beat Akaho, for sure lots of talk in his name after.

Not sure about that lots of talk for Casimero once he wins here. Akaho is now at his considered veteran age for a boxer and is not even included in the top rankings. That's why I'm not seeing Casimero winning this match will result in a big appreciation for him since, in the first place, he should have the upper hand in this fight.

Casimero will be back again in the champion-level discussion once he slowly climbs the top ranks.

Casimero has the name, but I do agree that winning against Akaho will not bring any recognition and everyone knows that this is a cherry pick fight for him in this new division. Maybe after he win, he will open his mouth post interview and maybe call the other champion in this division, including Inoue.

So this is just a busy fight for him, and test himself on 122 lbs. For sure, there shouldn't be a problem for him making the weight. It might take him another fight after this to established himself as a big name in super bantamweight.

I agree with you both. This fight was even considered an easy fight for Casimero.

If he wins here, it's just another day in the office and it won't create a big hype on his name.

Akaho is not even a threat to consider that can give Casimero a big problem. In the event that Casimero loses here, that will create big news instead since it means Casimero is no longer eligible for a pro-level competition.
He can create a hype if he win by a devastating KO? Just like when he tear up the 118 lbs getting the belts in spectacular fashion and then defending it against tough opponent. If Casimero can achieved this, who knows, maybe he can declare himself again as the next champion or calling them out for a fight.

So it won't be just a win that he should get, make it as destruction so that he will be taken very seriously by contenders and champions and maybe he will get a chance again next year for a belt.

A K.O win will create a huge hype for his name because he need to show to the fans that he's still relevant after what controversy he's facing lately. If he cannot get a KO then provably this will might be an ordinary fight which many people will forget after few days. Also maybe if he get early K.O win he can revive back the discussion to fight Inoue which is the most awaited fight by fans to happen.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Akaho - December 3
Post by: Blawpaw on November 11, 2022, 12:21:57 PM
Here's some more information:

https://i.ibb.co/2ndf29w/fight.jpg (https://ibb.co/vwkK5Fb)
Link (https://champinon.info/schedule/casimero-vs-akaho/#close)

By looking at these details and knowing a little of these two athletes, it will be a very good fight. Akaho, may be surprising and put Casimero on guard and win some points with it. I do not believe there will be a knock out, but it will be a tuff fight.

So, my guess is it will be; either a draw or Casimero will have the best.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Akaho - December 3
Post by: ultrloa on November 11, 2022, 12:47:22 PM
Here's some more information:


By looking at these details and knowing a little of these two athletes, it will be a very good fight. Akaho, may be surprising and put Casimero on guard and win some points with it. I do not believe there will be a knock out, but it will be a tuff fight.

So, my guess is it will be; either a draw or Casimero will have the best.

Majority is in favor with Casimero because he is much well know compare to Akaho but its really dangerous for him to belittle his opponent since he is inactive for so many days and this might give effect to his fighting style and Akaho will dominate him. I consider this as a good match up between them since whoever wins for sure they can bring good honors and maybe they could get more bigger fight after this match.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Akaho - December 3
Post by: Kelvinid on November 11, 2022, 02:01:01 PM
Here's some more information:


By looking at these details and knowing a little of these two athletes, it will be a very good fight. Akaho, may be surprising and put Casimero on guard and win some points with it. I do not believe there will be a knock out, but it will be a tuff fight.

So, my guess is it will be; either a draw or Casimero will have the best.

Majority is in favor with Casimero because he is much well know compare to Akaho but its really dangerous for him to belittle his opponent since he is inactive for so many days and this might give effect to his fighting style and Akaho will dominate him. I consider this as a good match up between them since whoever wins for sure they can bring good honors and maybe they could get more bigger fight after this match.

Poll would not lie, Casimero got 96.3% of the total votes here, so it's very obvious that most of us here believe that Casimero will win. Actually, I don't believe that when a boxer is inactive he will not be the same, because if a boxer that is inactive were active in the gym practicing, there should be no changes on his conditioning, Casimero was only inactive in professional sports but I'm pretty sure he keeps himself in shape all the time.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Akaho - December 3
Post by: Japinat on November 11, 2022, 04:19:32 PM
Even though akaho has the advantage based on the statistics, I am confident that casimero will win this fight in his new weight class because he is currently in his peak.

What advantage are you talking about? I don't see anything that gives any advantage to Ryo Akaho, well, except his reach advantage of few centimeters if you meant that. But if it's experience and ring IQ you're referring then you probably got the other way around because Akaho haven't face any heavy names in the industry, he's more of a local boxer just like Emannuel Tagoe who just surfaced suddenly. The only challenge for Casimero is his own self but I'm quite positive that in this division, he will overcome it.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Akaho - December 3
Post by: Fredomago on November 11, 2022, 07:20:33 PM

Yes, barely winning wouldn't help his situation at all because he will be just viewed as a regular challenger soon enough and Inoue will be also joining him soon, so it will be a much tougher division. It will be a challenge for him of course as this is a different division and his power might have been affected by the weight climb, but let's see what he can give in this weight class.

The two champions will be surely watching on this fight because they know the noise that Casimero made and that will be an enough reason that he should give his 100% percent in defeating Akaho.

This fight will be on the radar of both champ knowing that this attempt of Casimero moving in this new division will be on chasing the title belt, they will monitoring this fight and see if Casimero will be a big threat for them or it's just another ordinary challenger, I mean, Casimero needs to make this appearance more impactful to his new weight division.

It's more likely to say that if in anyhow he will be facing one of the champ, he will have the chance to win the belt.

I think it doesn't matter if Casimero will be a threat, the champion in this division already knows that sooner or later this fighter will go up, him and Inoue. So by now, they should be prepared to go to war for either of this fighter.

And I think boxers love the challenge so they are waiting for this two to go to super bantamweight. Even those that are in the top 5 are more willing to test themselves on this two. So let's see how Casimero will be in 122 lbs, no problem in weight for him, just a question of maybe his power, but I do believed that he can bring it to this weight as well. And so the super bantamweight becomes more exciting.

Yes, I also believe that there's no problem now with his skills and especially with the weight he can comfortably move without worrying to sacrifice his diet to meet certain weight, now the only question is if his power can prove to this new division that he climb, if he will beat Akaho with a KO then the chance that he is fit with this division would likely be shown up, while if he wins by decision might be a need for him to add more trainings and drills to work out with his power punches, this is new division and new sets of much stronger opponents that he needed to fight especially those belt holders.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Akaho - December 3
Post by: bisdak40 on November 11, 2022, 09:36:43 PM
Poll would not lie, Casimero got 96.3% of the total votes here, so it's very obvious that most of us here believe that Casimero will win. Actually, I don't believe that when a boxer is inactive he will not be the same, because if a boxer that is inactive were active in the gym practicing, there should be no changes on his conditioning, Casimero was only inactive in professional sports but I'm pretty sure he keeps himself in shape all the time.

Maybe the poll was influenced by the fact that many users who read this thread were compatriots of Casimero like myself but in reality, though Quadro Alas has the advantage in this fight though the odds are not released yet but there's a big chance that Casimero would be the huge favorite in this fight.

Casimero is out of the ring for quite some time now so ring rust might be an issue but considering that this is a comeback fight and a must-win for him, he will do whatever it takes to take the W at the end of 12 rounds if this would go the distance.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Akaho - December 3
Post by: Baofeng on November 11, 2022, 11:35:12 PM
Poll would not lie, Casimero got 96.3% of the total votes here, so it's very obvious that most of us here believe that Casimero will win. Actually, I don't believe that when a boxer is inactive he will not be the same, because if a boxer that is inactive were active in the gym practicing, there should be no changes on his conditioning, Casimero was only inactive in professional sports but I'm pretty sure he keeps himself in shape all the time.

Maybe the poll was influenced by the fact that many users who read this thread were compatriots of Casimero like myself but in reality, though Quadro Alas has the advantage in this fight though the odds are not released yet but there's a big chance that Casimero would be the huge favorite in this fight.

That's called biased voting hehehe, but I guess the boxing community here is smart though, they know that Casimero has a good chance against a unknown Akaho. Again, based on our experience, sports bookies are kinda late in releasing their odds, usually day literally 24 hours before the actual fight.

Casimero is out of the ring for quite some time now so ring rust might be an issue but considering that this is a comeback fight and a must-win for him, he will do whatever it takes to take the W at the end of 12 rounds if this would go the distance.

Probably a couple of rounds is needed by him to shake that ring rust and then goes back to his old self of knocking down his opponent with vicious shots. What's scary about Casimero is that both of his hands have power.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Akaho - December 3
Post by: Mahanton on November 11, 2022, 11:39:54 PM
Poll would not lie, Casimero got 96.3% of the total votes here, so it's very obvious that most of us here believe that Casimero will win. Actually, I don't believe that when a boxer is inactive he will not be the same, because if a boxer that is inactive were active in the gym practicing, there should be no changes on his conditioning, Casimero was only inactive in professional sports but I'm pretty sure he keeps himself in shape all the time.

Maybe the poll was influenced by the fact that many users who read this thread were compatriots of Casimero like myself but in reality, though Quadro Alas has the advantage in this fight though the odds are not released yet but there's a big chance that Casimero would be the huge favorite in this fight.

Casimero is out of the ring for quite some time now so ring rust might be an issue but considering that this is a comeback fight and a must-win for him, he will do whatever it takes to take the W at the end of 12 rounds if this would go the distance.
Whether Casimero would be the favorite or not then people cant really just easily tell that this is a walk in the park kind of fight for him, if we do look out on statistics of Akaho then he's more far experienced
than with Casimero but if you do look up on its history of fights then it is mostly done on his local. I havent seen this guy on how he fights and i might be considering on watching up some replays
and vids in relation to this and do make out some comparison and tell up on how these fighters or boxers do really fight or simply how good they are on technical plus
that endurance and of course in overall power.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Akaho - December 3
Post by: Kemarit on November 12, 2022, 03:37:02 AM
Poll would not lie, Casimero got 96.3% of the total votes here, so it's very obvious that most of us here believe that Casimero will win. Actually, I don't believe that when a boxer is inactive he will not be the same, because if a boxer that is inactive were active in the gym practicing, there should be no changes on his conditioning, Casimero was only inactive in professional sports but I'm pretty sure he keeps himself in shape all the time.

Maybe the poll was influenced by the fact that many users who read this thread were compatriots of Casimero like myself but in reality, though Quadro Alas has the advantage in this fight though the odds are not released yet but there's a big chance that Casimero would be the huge favorite in this fight.

Casimero is out of the ring for quite some time now so ring rust might be an issue but considering that this is a comeback fight and a must-win for him, he will do whatever it takes to take the W at the end of 12 rounds if this would go the distance.
Whether Casimero would be the favorite or not then people cant really just easily tell that this is a walk in the park kind of fight for him, if we do look out on statistics of Akaho then he's more far experienced
than with Casimero but if you do look up on its history of fights then it is mostly done on his local. I havent seen this guy on how he fights and i might be considering on watching up some replays
and vids in relation to this and do make out some comparison and tell up on how these fighters or boxers do really fight or simply how good they are on technical plus
that endurance and of course in overall power.

Not sure if we can call this a walk in the park, but probably more of a big test for Casimero in this weight that's why they choose a opponent like Akaho.

A very durable and experience fighter and maybe there could be ring rust for Casimero and Akaho could take advantage of it and make this fight very exciting for us. But Casimero's punching power will be the equalizer here and once Akaho gets tired, John Riel will look for a knock out or maybe a decision win for him.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Akaho - December 3
Post by: Mahanton on November 12, 2022, 08:24:20 AM
Poll would not lie, Casimero got 96.3% of the total votes here, so it's very obvious that most of us here believe that Casimero will win. Actually, I don't believe that when a boxer is inactive he will not be the same, because if a boxer that is inactive were active in the gym practicing, there should be no changes on his conditioning, Casimero was only inactive in professional sports but I'm pretty sure he keeps himself in shape all the time.

Maybe the poll was influenced by the fact that many users who read this thread were compatriots of Casimero like myself but in reality, though Quadro Alas has the advantage in this fight though the odds are not released yet but there's a big chance that Casimero would be the huge favorite in this fight.

Casimero is out of the ring for quite some time now so ring rust might be an issue but considering that this is a comeback fight and a must-win for him, he will do whatever it takes to take the W at the end of 12 rounds if this would go the distance.
Whether Casimero would be the favorite or not then people cant really just easily tell that this is a walk in the park kind of fight for him, if we do look out on statistics of Akaho then he's more far experienced
than with Casimero but if you do look up on its history of fights then it is mostly done on his local. I havent seen this guy on how he fights and i might be considering on watching up some replays
and vids in relation to this and do make out some comparison and tell up on how these fighters or boxers do really fight or simply how good they are on technical plus
that endurance and of course in overall power.

Not sure if we can call this a walk in the park, but probably more of a big test for Casimero in this weight that's why they choose a opponent like Akaho.

A very durable and experience fighter and maybe there could be ring rust for Casimero and Akaho could take advantage of it and make this fight very exciting for us. But Casimero's punching power will be the equalizer here and once Akaho gets tired, John Riel will look for a knock out or maybe a decision win for him.
Speaking of ring rust then this is something a boxers problem but we dont know if Casimero is secretly training or maintain up his physique even dont having some upcoming fights or simply he maintained his training
which we can say that ring rust is something that cant really be that possible or an excuse but well it could really happen and could be seen on the way he fight this upcoming December 3.
Just like on what i had said that this wont really be a walk in the park kind of fight on which he should really be still that careful on dealing up with Akaho because one mistake or carelessness
would really be resulting a defeat.This is a fight which you could really say that underdog could really be having the chance on beating up.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Akaho - December 3
Post by: Fredomago on November 12, 2022, 04:40:08 PM
Poll would not lie, Casimero got 96.3% of the total votes here, so it's very obvious that most of us here believe that Casimero will win. Actually, I don't believe that when a boxer is inactive he will not be the same, because if a boxer that is inactive were active in the gym practicing, there should be no changes on his conditioning, Casimero was only inactive in professional sports but I'm pretty sure he keeps himself in shape all the time.

Maybe the poll was influenced by the fact that many users who read this thread were compatriots of Casimero like myself but in reality, though Quadro Alas has the advantage in this fight though the odds are not released yet but there's a big chance that Casimero would be the huge favorite in this fight.

Casimero is out of the ring for quite some time now so ring rust might be an issue but considering that this is a comeback fight and a must-win for him, he will do whatever it takes to take the W at the end of 12 rounds if this would go the distance.
Whether Casimero would be the favorite or not then people cant really just easily tell that this is a walk in the park kind of fight for him, if we do look out on statistics of Akaho then he's more far experienced
than with Casimero but if you do look up on its history of fights then it is mostly done on his local. I havent seen this guy on how he fights and i might be considering on watching up some replays
and vids in relation to this and do make out some comparison and tell up on how these fighters or boxers do really fight or simply how good they are on technical plus
that endurance and of course in overall power.

We don't know the capabilities of Casimero's opponent unless we see them fighting inside the same ring, all opinions and speculation are base to how people interact with both fighters, just like what you mentioned Akaho is more experienced than Casimero as they will going to fight in his division, even Casimero is a former champ but with this new division he is new and he needs to take that risk bringing everything in these upcoming fight.

If you really wanted to analyze the fighter, you need to watch those replays and assess if which fighters have a greater chance of winning the fight.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Akaho - December 3
Post by: Ziskinberg on November 12, 2022, 04:46:54 PM
Here's some more information:


By looking at these details and knowing a little of these two athletes, it will be a very good fight. Akaho, may be surprising and put Casimero on guard and win some points with it. I do not believe there will be a knock out, but it will be a tuff fight.

So, my guess is it will be; either a draw or Casimero will have the best.

Majority is in favor with Casimero because he is much well know compare to Akaho but its really dangerous for him to belittle his opponent since he is inactive for so many days and this might give effect to his fighting style and Akaho will dominate him. I consider this as a good match up between them since whoever wins for sure they can bring good honors and maybe they could get more bigger fight after this match.

It's almost unlikely to happen because this fight is quite personal to Casimero as he needs to avenge his fellow countrymen who fell in the hands of Ryo Akaho and the most important is to write his name back in the industry to have a chance in fighting the guys who's a title holder.
His chances are good against Akaho, so there shouldn't be a problem and Casimero don't have any records that he underestimate his foes, he just like to play mind games to them to mess their heads.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Akaho - December 3
Post by: Baofeng on November 12, 2022, 11:54:42 PM
Here's some more information:


By looking at these details and knowing a little of these two athletes, it will be a very good fight. Akaho, may be surprising and put Casimero on guard and win some points with it. I do not believe there will be a knock out, but it will be a tuff fight.

So, my guess is it will be; either a draw or Casimero will have the best.

Majority is in favor with Casimero because he is much well know compare to Akaho but its really dangerous for him to belittle his opponent since he is inactive for so many days and this might give effect to his fighting style and Akaho will dominate him. I consider this as a good match up between them since whoever wins for sure they can bring good honors and maybe they could get more bigger fight after this match.

It's almost unlikely to happen because this fight is quite personal to Casimero as he needs to avenge his fellow countrymen who fell in the hands of Ryo Akaho and the most important is to write his name back in the industry to have a chance in fighting the guys who's a title holder.
His chances are good against Akaho, so there shouldn't be a problem and Casimero don't have any records that he underestimate his foes, he just like to play mind games to them to mess their heads.

That could be a good story line in this fight, but I don't think that will be in Casimero's mind at this fight.

He just need to be motivated, take out all the noises that just had happen to him in the last year, focus on this because this could be one of his biggest fight. This is his comeback so better be sure he show the fans and again, take notice of this super bantamweight that a new face is going to enter and they should be ready.

No underestimating his opponent, no trash talking, just simply do his job here.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Akaho - December 3
Post by: bisdak40 on November 13, 2022, 04:09:31 AM
No underestimating his opponent, no trash talking, just simply do his job here.

Not underestimating his opponent, maybe he could do this one but with the bolded text above. I think that's a hard thing for him to do because that's his way of selling the fight and also attracting attention from would-be opponents in the future. Seems to me that this antic is now in his veins but this might also be a good thing to Philippine boxing as this kind of attitude could hype up his fights, but not too much arrogance though.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Akaho - December 3
Post by: carlisle1 on November 13, 2022, 06:36:02 PM
No underestimating his opponent, no trash talking, just simply do his job here.

Not underestimating his opponent, maybe he could do this one but with the bolded text above. I think that's a hard thing for him to do because that's his way of selling the fight and also attracting attention from would-be opponents in the future. Seems to me that this antic is now in his veins but this might also be a good thing to Philippine boxing as this kind of attitude could hype up his fights, but not too much arrogance though.

He was known like that so I'm pretty sure he will somehow do that old style to gain more attentions, but knowing him he
will do his best both outside and inside the ring to engage with fans.

It's a good step for him to bring his name in line in this new division that he's going to fight now, winning with a good outcome
after doing some trash talks gives another momentum to his career.

Let see if he will make some noise and how he will compete after moving to this division.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Akaho - December 3
Post by: LUCKMCFLY on November 13, 2022, 06:59:29 PM
is the vote real? that is landslide? voting 19 out of 20 for casimero ? is this how popular this boxer in our days now?

The landslide vote on the poll it's not just because of the popularity. It's clear that Casimero's credential is far better than Akaho. Casimero is also a former WBO Bantamweight Champion and if only he takes care of everything, he might be the one facing the Japanese Top Bantamweight Naoya Inoue in the unification bout and not Paul Butler.

Moving forward, the age factor might also play a big role for Akaho. He is now entering the considered veteran age for boxers and even though he's currently on the winning hot streak, there's no considered big name on those who defeated.

Casimero has no choice but to win here if he still wants to climb again at the rankings. However, if ever the situation is being favored to him on his way up, I doubt he can match against the current champions at the super bantamweight.

Well particularly here seeing it only from a single point of view, Casimero is the only one who can gain little here if he wins and lose practically everything here if he loses, why? he needs fights to win, many, to continue to be taken into account so that the fights with the most famous take place, it is something he has to do, it is a duty, Akaho's file is very good for him, but here I return As far as I'm concerned, I think that Casimero is currently much more famous than he is, but if Akaho manages to do something very good, like beating them, it will be very well seen and all doors will open to him and Casimero will begin to close at once scary way, I'm interested in this fight for that very reason.

Poll would not lie, Casimero got 96.3% of the total votes here, so it's very obvious that most of us here believe that Casimero will win. Actually, I don't believe that when a boxer is inactive he will not be the same, because if a boxer that is inactive were active in the gym practicing, there should be no changes on his conditioning, Casimero was only inactive in professional sports but I'm pretty sure he keeps himself in shape all the time.

Maybe the poll was influenced by the fact that many users who read this thread were compatriots of Casimero like myself but in reality, though Quadro Alas has the advantage in this fight though the odds are not released yet but there's a big chance that Casimero would be the huge favorite in this fight.

Casimero is out of the ring for quite some time now so ring rust might be an issue but considering that this is a comeback fight and a must-win for him, he will do whatever it takes to take the W at the end of 12 rounds if this would go the distance.
Whether Casimero would be the favorite or not then people cant really just easily tell that this is a walk in the park kind of fight for him, if we do look out on statistics of Akaho then he's more far experienced
than with Casimero but if you do look up on its history of fights then it is mostly done on his local. I havent seen this guy on how he fights and i might be considering on watching up some replays
and vids in relation to this and do make out some comparison and tell up on how these fighters or boxers do really fight or simply how good they are on technical plus
that endurance and of course in overall power.

We don't know the capabilities of Casimero's opponent unless we see them fighting inside the same ring, all opinions and speculation are base to how people interact with both fighters, just like what you mentioned Akaho is more experienced than Casimero as they will going to fight in his division, even Casimero is a former champ but with this new division he is new and he needs to take that risk bringing everything in these upcoming fight.

If you really wanted to analyze the fighter, you need to watch those replays and assess if which fighters have a greater chance of winning the fight.
If that is a great way to be able to study the opinion, in fact when a boxer focuses on what things he does more often it is possible to find out what the fighter can come out at a given moment, in the case of Casimero he can study all the videos They can be used by Akhao, but I think that Akaho can change his strategy and his way of fighting very quickly, something that I have noticed in Akaho is that he always changes his way of facing his opponents, the style can be the same, but the combinations he applies are different and I think he takes into account the physicality of the opponent and takes into account what he can possibly do, he is a very calculating boxer.


I don't know if you have noticed that style that Akaho has, or maybe I look at things that not everyone looks for, I see it from the point of view more focused on technique.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Akaho - December 3
Post by: izsara on November 13, 2022, 07:15:38 PM
Here's some more information:


By looking at these details and knowing a little of these two athletes, it will be a very good fight. Akaho, may be surprising and put Casimero on guard and win some points with it. I do not believe there will be a knock out, but it will be a tuff fight.

So, my guess is it will be; either a draw or Casimero will have the best.

Majority is in favor with Casimero because he is much well know compare to Akaho but its really dangerous for him to belittle his opponent since he is inactive for so many days and this might give effect to his fighting style and Akaho will dominate him. I consider this as a good match up between them since whoever wins for sure they can bring good honors and maybe they could get more bigger fight after this match.
It's pretty certain this will be the favorite for Casimero because to be honest I personally don't know much about this akaho and only found out about him when this match was about to happen.
Casimero is still the same with his style which is a bit arrogant but I like this style for him and this victory will be very good for him if he succeeds in overthrowing Akaho even though we know sometimes boxers from Japan are as troublesome as the Philippines because they always endure the blow.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Akaho - December 3
Post by: serjent05 on November 13, 2022, 07:30:33 PM
It's almost unlikely to happen because this fight is quite personal to Casimero as he needs to avenge his fellow countrymen who fell in the hands of Ryo Akaho

In reality, I do not think Casimero cares about the Filipino who was defeated in the hand of Akaho.  This fight is more of establishing his personal reputation since Casimero's reputation plummeted when he was caught violating the boxing rule and was stripped of the title.

and the most important is to write his name back in the industry to have a chance in fighting the guys who's a title holder.

Yeah, it should be his priority than avenging his fellow Filipino.

His chances are good against Akaho, so there shouldn't be a problem and Casimero don't have any records that he underestimate his foes, he just like to play mind games to them to mess their heads.

Actually, we never know until the fight ended.  Akaho has good records which can compete with Casimero.  We also can't say that Casimero has a higher IQ since this is the first time we see these two boxer fight each other.  I think the result of the fight depends on which camp prepares better.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Akaho - December 3
Post by: goinmerry on November 13, 2022, 11:59:48 PM
Majority is in favor with Casimero because he is much well know compare to Akaho but its really dangerous for him to belittle his opponent since he is inactive for so many days and this might give effect to his fighting style and Akaho will dominate him. I consider this as a good match up between them since whoever wins for sure they can bring good honors and maybe they could get more bigger fight after this match.

Not just popularity but it's obvious that Casimero has all the advantages he has in this fight.

Akaho is not even considered a boxer that can harm a Casimero-level performance for let's say Casimero will be 100% healthy in that fight.

We are not underestimating Akaho but just saying the closest possibility that can happen in this match.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Akaho - December 3
Post by: Kemarit on November 14, 2022, 01:46:39 AM
Majority is in favor with Casimero because he is much well know compare to Akaho but its really dangerous for him to belittle his opponent since he is inactive for so many days and this might give effect to his fighting style and Akaho will dominate him. I consider this as a good match up between them since whoever wins for sure they can bring good honors and maybe they could get more bigger fight after this match.

Not just popularity but it's obvious that Casimero has all the advantages he has in this fight.

Akaho is not even considered a boxer that can harm a Casimero-level performance for let's say Casimero will be 100% healthy in that fight.

We are not underestimating Akaho but just saying the closest possibility that can happen in this match.

And it was an obvious easy pick for Casimero and his team, entering a new weight class, they should get a fighter that is tough but not going to be a big risk for them. And in paper Akaho beat a lot of PH boxers and maybe it was a good story that he will be facing another Filipino but this time though, it's world class.

So maybe Akaho thinks that Casimero will be his next victim, but this Pinoy is different, he has been a world champion.
And he can knock people with just one punch. And yes, all advantage goes to Casimero here so he should be good in this fight.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Akaho - December 3
Post by: Fredomago on November 14, 2022, 11:14:48 AM
Poll would not lie, Casimero got 96.3% of the total votes here, so it's very obvious that most of us here believe that Casimero will win. Actually, I don't believe that when a boxer is inactive he will not be the same, because if a boxer that is inactive were active in the gym practicing, there should be no changes on his conditioning, Casimero was only inactive in professional sports but I'm pretty sure he keeps himself in shape all the time.

Maybe the poll was influenced by the fact that many users who read this thread were compatriots of Casimero like myself but in reality, though Quadro Alas has the advantage in this fight though the odds are not released yet but there's a big chance that Casimero would be the huge favorite in this fight.

Casimero is out of the ring for quite some time now so ring rust might be an issue but considering that this is a comeback fight and a must-win for him, he will do whatever it takes to take the W at the end of 12 rounds if this would go the distance.
Whether Casimero would be the favorite or not then people cant really just easily tell that this is a walk in the park kind of fight for him, if we do look out on statistics of Akaho then he's more far experienced
than with Casimero but if you do look up on its history of fights then it is mostly done on his local. I havent seen this guy on how he fights and i might be considering on watching up some replays
and vids in relation to this and do make out some comparison and tell up on how these fighters or boxers do really fight or simply how good they are on technical plus
that endurance and of course in overall power.

We don't know the capabilities of Casimero's opponent unless we see them fighting inside the same ring, all opinions and speculation are base to how people interact with both fighters, just like what you mentioned Akaho is more experienced than Casimero as they will going to fight in his division, even Casimero is a former champ but with this new division he is new and he needs to take that risk bringing everything in these upcoming fight.

If you really wanted to analyze the fighter, you need to watch those replays and assess if which fighters have a greater chance of winning the fight.
If that is a great way to be able to study the opinion, in fact when a boxer focuses on what things he does more often it is possible to find out what the fighter can come out at a given moment, in the case of Casimero he can study all the videos They can be used by Akhao, but I think that Akaho can change his strategy and his way of fighting very quickly, something that I have noticed in Akaho is that he always changes his way of facing his opponents, the style can be the same, but the combinations he applies are different and I think he takes into account the physicality of the opponent and takes into account what he can possibly do, he is a very calculating boxer.


I don't know if you have noticed that style that Akaho has, or maybe I look at things that not everyone looks for, I see it from the point of view more focused on technique.

Experienced really matters and we know Akaho's resume, if you noticed that kind of strategy from him maybe because he really have it inside him, adopting and adjusting with how his opponent's will try to take him, I also believe that instinct inside each fighters most the time help them to develop skills during the fight, if the plan seems not to be working they will adjust and keep finding ways on how they will make the tempo favorable in their side.

We will only know whose strategy will work when they already delivering it and when they execute it the right way.



Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Akaho - December 3
Post by: Vaculin on November 14, 2022, 01:43:22 PM
Poll would not lie, Casimero got 96.3% of the total votes here, so it's very obvious that most of us here believe that Casimero will win. Actually, I don't believe that when a boxer is inactive he will not be the same, because if a boxer that is inactive were active in the gym practicing, there should be no changes on his conditioning, Casimero was only inactive in professional sports but I'm pretty sure he keeps himself in shape all the time.

Maybe the poll was influenced by the fact that many users who read this thread were compatriots of Casimero like myself but in reality, though Quadro Alas has the advantage in this fight though the odds are not released yet but there's a big chance that Casimero would be the huge favorite in this fight.

That's called biased voting hehehe, but I guess the boxing community here is smart though, they know that Casimero has a good chance against a unknown Akaho. Again, based on our experience, sports bookies are kinda late in releasing their odds, usually day literally 24 hours before the actual fight.

You cannot really blame them because they were indeed Casimero's compatriots, and they also believed that he could do it as well, might be biased for others but there's a reason behind it. And in this fight, it's just hard to bet or side against Casimero because he's more known compared to Ryo Akaho who haven't faced any heavy boxers yet.

Casimero is out of the ring for quite some time now so ring rust might be an issue but considering that this is a comeback fight and a must-win for him, he will do whatever it takes to take the W at the end of 12 rounds if this would go the distance.
Probably a couple of rounds is needed by him to shake that ring rust and then goes back to his old self of knocking down his opponent with vicious shots. What's scary about Casimero is that both of his hands have power.

Just a probability but it's still better if he will get heated first in-order to overcome that ring rust effect if ever he has, just a precaution from being inactive for quite some time. Anyway, I'm expecting that he will do good this time because he really needed it, he doesn't need a barely won fight, he needed an exclamation point this time.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Akaho - December 3
Post by: freedomgo on November 15, 2022, 03:50:01 PM
Seeing Casimero heavily favored from the poll is not really that surprising and people are just waiting for his comeback since he was stripped by his WBO belt. So far, things are going well with Casimero inside his camp and I'm just not used that he's so silent since this bout has been finalized, so I assume that they're so serious inside the camp and with just a little 2 weeks left from his fight, it seems that he doesn't have that weight struggles anymore. Already excited about his return!

Anyway, here's an article I found earlier regarding Casimero's plans should he succeed in his upcoming fight.
Quote
"If I win against Akaho I want Naoya Inoue next as long as he does not run. I respect Akaho because he will fight me, he is not afraid," -Casimero said in an interview with A-Sign Boxing.
https://www.gmanetwork.com/news/sports/boxing/850209/john-riel-casimero-targets-inoue-showdown-after-ryo-akaho-fight/story/


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Akaho - December 3
Post by: Baofeng on November 17, 2022, 10:30:56 PM
Seeing Casimero heavily favored from the poll is not really that surprising and people are just waiting for his comeback since he was stripped by his WBO belt. So far, things are going well with Casimero inside his camp and I'm just not used that he's so silent since this bout has been finalized, so I assume that they're so serious inside the camp and with just a little 2 weeks left from his fight, it seems that he doesn't have that weight struggles anymore. Already excited about his return!

Anyway, here's an article I found earlier regarding Casimero's plans should he succeed in his upcoming fight.
Quote
"If I win against Akaho I want Naoya Inoue next as long as he does not run. I respect Akaho because he will fight me, he is not afraid," -Casimero said in an interview with A-Sign Boxing.
https://www.gmanetwork.com/news/sports/boxing/850209/john-riel-casimero-targets-inoue-showdown-after-ryo-akaho-fight/story/

When I thought that Casimero is quietly preparing for his fight against Akaho, he had to open his mouth and then call out Inoue hehehe.

Maybe that's what really his target, I mean we have been waiting for this fight against Inoue, unfortunately he can't make the weight at 118 lbs. But since both of them are moving up to 122 lbs, this fight is inevitable.

But first Casimero should take care of his business here and beat Akaho convincingly.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Akaho - December 3
Post by: inthelongrun on November 18, 2022, 02:26:18 PM
Seeing Casimero heavily favored from the poll is not really that surprising and people are just waiting for his comeback since he was stripped by his WBO belt. So far, things are going well with Casimero inside his camp and I'm just not used that he's so silent since this bout has been finalized, so I assume that they're so serious inside the camp and with just a little 2 weeks left from his fight, it seems that he doesn't have that weight struggles anymore. Already excited about his return!

Anyway, here's an article I found earlier regarding Casimero's plans should he succeed in his upcoming fight.
Quote
"If I win against Akaho I want Naoya Inoue next as long as he does not run. I respect Akaho because he will fight me, he is not afraid," -Casimero said in an interview with A-Sign Boxing.
https://www.gmanetwork.com/news/sports/boxing/850209/john-riel-casimero-targets-inoue-showdown-after-ryo-akaho-fight/story/

When I thought that Casimero is quietly preparing for his fight against Akaho, he had to open his mouth and then call out Inoue hehehe.

Maybe that's what really his target, I mean we have been waiting for this fight against Inoue, unfortunately he can't make the weight at 118 lbs. But since both of them are moving up to 122 lbs, this fight is inevitable.

But first Casimero should take care of his business here and beat Akaho convincingly.

I like it when Casimero and his camp are not making many appearances in public and online, unlike his previous fights where they're always noisy and the vloggers keep making videos out of him. He needs to be very serious if he wants to continue his boxing career. I believe he should be able to beat Akaho and hopefully in an impressive way.

Meanwhile, the WBC mandated 122 WBO/WBC champ Stephen Fulton to rematch Brandon Figueroa at 126 for the WBC interim belt. Should Fulton accepts the mandate, his 2 122 belts might become vacant which is a good opportunity for Casimero and even for Inoue. Maybe Casimero and Inoue will fight for a vacant belt right away.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Akaho - December 3
Post by: LUCKMCFLY on November 18, 2022, 03:09:24 PM
After this result, it's high likely next fight we will see Bivol fight with Canelo first and then Bivol might taking challenge to fight with Beterbiev.

That's the same situation I'm thinking, Canelo is likely to have that rematch happen after Bivol got his victory over Ramirez, it will be a money fight for sure that is why it's so likely that it will happen and Canelo has nothing to lose anymore because Bivol already defeated him, but I'm inclined that the outcome would be pretty much the same. Bivol is really too much for Canelo, there's no denying about that.

The truth is, as I have said in other threads, I don't think that Buivol's plans are to fight with Canelo again, for me, what the Russian wants to show is that he can have and fight for titles and that gives him more fame, he rises in his classification and he does not have to fight rematches, I know that not us, because we are fans, we would like to see that rematch, because we love this, but to tell the truth, in the way that maybe I think Bivol is thinking, it is not what he is looking for, I think that he is more focused on seeking fame in another way and obviously better fights to earn much more money, in reality what he is doing is something very intelligent.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Akaho - December 3
Post by: bisdak40 on November 19, 2022, 10:17:57 AM
I like it when Casimero and his camp are not making many appearances in public and online, unlike his previous fights where they're always noisy and the vloggers keep making videos out of him. He needs to be very serious if he wants to continue his boxing career. I believe he should be able to beat Akaho and hopefully in an impressive way.

Yeah, it's a good thing that the team don't make noise online and better train hard silently so to surprise Akaho with his game plan. That youtube vlog was the culprit on why he was disqualified on that Butler fight because they were the ones posting on their channel that they went to the sauna bath in which the WBO representative saw.

But recently, some vloggers have posted on their channel the scene where Casimero knocked down his sparring partner when he was hit in the body. It was a short video but with that we can say that Casimero still has it to KO Akaho this coming December.

Meanwhile, the WBC mandated 122 WBO/WBC champ Stephen Fulton to rematch Brandon Figueroa at 126 for the WBC interim belt. Should Fulton accepts the mandate, his 2 122 belts might become vacant which is a good opportunity for Casimero and even for Inoue. Maybe Casimero and Inoue will fight for a vacant belt right away.

This is good news for both Inoue and Casimero as they have vacant belts which they can look forward to even if they don't meet right away.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Akaho - December 3
Post by: Yamifoud on November 19, 2022, 11:27:11 AM

Meanwhile, the WBC mandated 122 WBO/WBC champ Stephen Fulton to rematch Brandon Figueroa at 126 for the WBC interim belt. Should Fulton accepts the mandate, his 2 122 belts might become vacant which is a good opportunity for Casimero and even for Inoue. Maybe Casimero and Inoue will fight for a vacant belt right away.

This is good news for both Inoue and Casimero as they have vacant belts which they can look forward to even if they don't meet right away.

I hope this will happen, for sure Inoue will go for that belt and if Casimero will be the best challenger for him, that would make the fight perfect as their supposed fight did not happen in the bantamweight division but it will happen in a heavier division. I'm looking forward to this, let us keep updated on this news, and thanks for sharing by the way.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Akaho - December 3
Post by: Jating on November 19, 2022, 12:41:01 PM

Meanwhile, the WBC mandated 122 WBO/WBC champ Stephen Fulton to rematch Brandon Figueroa at 126 for the WBC interim belt. Should Fulton accepts the mandate, his 2 122 belts might become vacant which is a good opportunity for Casimero and even for Inoue. Maybe Casimero and Inoue will fight for a vacant belt right away.

This is good news for both Inoue and Casimero as they have vacant belts which they can look forward to even if they don't meet right away.

I hope this will happen, for sure Inoue will go for that belt and if Casimero will be the best challenger for him, that would make the fight perfect as their supposed fight did not happen in the bantamweight division but it will happen in a heavier division. I'm looking forward to this, let us keep updated on this news, and thanks for sharing by the way.

Guess if that is the case, it's better if Casimero will have the belt in 122 lbs before eventually facing Inoue. Because both could really be motivated to take each other heads off, Casimero again calling for Inoue and if everything went as plan, (him winning against Akaho, Fulton vacating his belt, and then Casimero getting a chance to get a title or eliminator). So lot of good opportunity for Casimero, he just need to take this 1st step of getting a win in this division.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Akaho - December 3
Post by: carlisle1 on November 19, 2022, 04:36:14 PM

Meanwhile, the WBC mandated 122 WBO/WBC champ Stephen Fulton to rematch Brandon Figueroa at 126 for the WBC interim belt. Should Fulton accepts the mandate, his 2 122 belts might become vacant which is a good opportunity for Casimero and even for Inoue. Maybe Casimero and Inoue will fight for a vacant belt right away.

This is good news for both Inoue and Casimero as they have vacant belts which they can look forward to even if they don't meet right away.

I hope this will happen, for sure Inoue will go for that belt and if Casimero will be the best challenger for him, that would make the fight perfect as their supposed fight did not happen in the bantamweight division but it will happen in a heavier division. I'm looking forward to this, let us keep updated on this news, and thanks for sharing by the way.

Guess if that is the case, it's better if Casimero will have the belt in 122 lbs before eventually facing Inoue. Because both could really be motivated to take each other heads off, Casimero again calling for Inoue and if everything went as plan, (him winning against Akaho, Fulton vacating his belt, and then Casimero getting a chance to get a title or eliminator). So lot of good opportunity for Casimero, he just need to take this 1st step of getting a win in this division.

He just needs to make his presence be felt by everyone in this division, a single step at the time, I think your opinion will be concluded
if Casimero win this fight first.

Or I mean it will make an impact to his step when he wins this first fight then call for the next challenge, a win will give him good credits
that he can really make his new journey worthy.

Let see if how he will manage Akaho then discuss back after


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Akaho - December 3
Post by: Ziskinberg on November 20, 2022, 02:00:29 PM

He just needs to make his presence be felt by everyone in this division, a single step at the time, I think your opinion will be concluded
if Casimero win this fight first.

Or I mean it will make an impact to his step when he wins this first fight then call for the next challenge, a win will give him good credits
that he can really make his new journey worthy.

Let see if how he will manage Akaho then discuss back after


If he will win this fight that means he is back and people will feel his presence. If he wasn't disqualified, he is still a champion now, so it's still like Casimero the champion here, and fighting a challenger. Though it's a new division, I think Casimero is more comfortable here and he will have an impressive win for his comeback.

Who are betting here for Casimero to KO his opponent in less than 6 rounds?


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Akaho - December 3
Post by: Fredomago on November 20, 2022, 04:29:47 PM
Seeing Casimero heavily favored from the poll is not really that surprising and people are just waiting for his comeback since he was stripped by his WBO belt. So far, things are going well with Casimero inside his camp and I'm just not used that he's so silent since this bout has been finalized, so I assume that they're so serious inside the camp and with just a little 2 weeks left from his fight, it seems that he doesn't have that weight struggles anymore. Already excited about his return!

Anyway, here's an article I found earlier regarding Casimero's plans should he succeed in his upcoming fight.
Quote
"If I win against Akaho I want Naoya Inoue next as long as he does not run. I respect Akaho because he will fight me, he is not afraid," -Casimero said in an interview with A-Sign Boxing.
https://www.gmanetwork.com/news/sports/boxing/850209/john-riel-casimero-targets-inoue-showdown-after-ryo-akaho-fight/story/

When I thought that Casimero is quietly preparing for his fight against Akaho, he had to open his mouth and then call out Inoue hehehe.

Maybe that's what really his target, I mean we have been waiting for this fight against Inoue, unfortunately he can't make the weight at 118 lbs. But since both of them are moving up to 122 lbs, this fight is inevitable.

But first Casimero should take care of his business here and beat Akaho convincingly.

Adding to your statement,even we are expecting Inoue to climb up after unifying all the belts, it's still his promoters choice if they will be ready to step up and try to win another belt with new division, I'm pretty sure that Casimero is using Inoue's name to gain more attention, knowing that it's a new division and there's still an upcoming fight for Inoue, he wanted to bring Inoue's name to make sure that fans will follow him if ever we win this fight against Akaho.

A classic Casimero, the style of hyping his fight to attract readers and possible viewers.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Akaho - December 3
Post by: Vaculin on November 20, 2022, 04:56:45 PM
I like it when Casimero and his camp are not making many appearances in public and online, unlike his previous fights where they're always noisy and the vloggers keep making videos out of him. He needs to be very serious if he wants to continue his boxing career. I believe he should be able to beat Akaho and hopefully in an impressive way.

Meanwhile, the WBC mandated 122 WBO/WBC champ Stephen Fulton to rematch Brandon Figueroa at 126 for the WBC interim belt. Should Fulton accepts the mandate, his 2 122 belts might become vacant which is a good opportunity for Casimero and even for Inoue. Maybe Casimero and Inoue will fight for a vacant belt right away.

Funny thing is we aren't used by Casimero's silence after climbing the super bantamweight division, it is so unlikely of him to be this serious without making any appearances or noise for teasing his foes. But it's a good thing because he really is serious this time and will just want to surprise the world again of his return after the issue he was in few months before. Anyway, I'm really positive that he can defeat Akaho, I just want to see how will Casimero deliver the message in this division.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Akaho - December 3
Post by: harizen on November 20, 2022, 11:53:12 PM
Funny thing is we aren't used by Casimero's silence after climbing the super bantamweight division, it is so unlikely of him to be this serious without making any appearances or noise for teasing his foes. But it's a good thing because he really is serious this time and will just want to surprise the world again of his return after the issue he was in few months before. Anyway, I'm really positive that he can defeat Akaho, I just want to see how will Casimero deliver the message in this division.

For me, just take it with a grain of salt. Maybe the media are not just following Casimero right now that's why no words coming from him are being made. A few days before the fight, I believed that will be the time we can some fresh related news about Casimero.

It's now around 2 weeks before this fight will officially take. Casimero is surely excited to return to the ring after months of being on hiatus.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Akaho - December 3
Post by: goinmerry on November 20, 2022, 11:57:18 PM
This fight is now approaching closely and time really flies fast.

We will now be able to witness Casimero again fighting although this fight is considered as his testing phase if he still has that "skills".

There is no way Casimero should lose here and he should win no matter what to regain his confidence to fight again at the top.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Akaho - December 3
Post by: Fredomago on November 21, 2022, 03:52:52 AM
Funny thing is we aren't used by Casimero's silence after climbing the super bantamweight division, it is so unlikely of him to be this serious without making any appearances or noise for teasing his foes. But it's a good thing because he really is serious this time and will just want to surprise the world again of his return after the issue he was in few months before. Anyway, I'm really positive that he can defeat Akaho, I just want to see how will Casimero deliver the message in this division.

For me, just take it with a grain of salt. Maybe the media are not just following Casimero right now that's why no words coming from him are being made. A few days before the fight, I believed that will be the time we can some fresh related news about Casimero.

It's now around 2 weeks before this fight will officially take. Casimero is surely excited to return to the ring after months of being on hiatus.

I echo that statment, knowing Casiemro he will come out and make his statement before the fight start, maybe it's still early to make those statement especially those trash that he always throw to his opponents, expect him to attract fans with his usual habits.

This fight is now approaching closely and time really flies fast.

We will now be able to witness Casimero again fighting although this fight is considered as his testing phase if he still has that "skills".

There is no way Casimero should lose here and he should win no matter what to regain his confidence to fight again at the top.

Casimero's testing place might be a tough one since he will be fighting against a much heavier and stronger opponent, Akaho can upset him if he will not do his best. Let see how prepare Casimero and how he will end this fight.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Akaho - December 3
Post by: Jawhead999 on November 21, 2022, 08:09:09 AM
This fight is now approaching closely and time really flies fast.

We will now be able to witness Casimero again fighting although this fight is considered as his testing phase if he still has that "skills".

There is no way Casimero should lose here and he should win no matter what to regain his confidence to fight again at the top.
Although this match has been announced from October and now there's another 2 weeks before the fight will happen, but there's no bookies added this fight. Usually bookies will add boxing match even though we can only bet via moneyline.

I think you shouldn't underestimate Akaho, I read in few article if Akaho is the favorited boxer in this match, it make sense because Casimero already break for a year and he doesn't have any belt, moreover this is his first match in super bantamweight division.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Akaho - December 3
Post by: yazher on November 21, 2022, 08:13:30 AM
If he will win this fight that means he is back and people will feel his presence. If he wasn't disqualified, he is still a champion now, so it's still like Casimero the champion here, and fighting a challenger. Though it's a new division, I think Casimero is more comfortable here and he will have an impressive win for his comeback.

Who are betting here for Casimero to KO his opponent in less than 6 rounds?

He can win this one if he did some extensive training that will gonna give him a more comfortable easy fight as soon as he steps in the ring, He needs to do it right this time not showing any negativity because so far, he hasn't even got a good fight after disqualifications any other reasons. We know how cocky Casimero is but he only does that for promotions and to gain some fans he is doing it wrong and the result is not really good when it comes to getting what he wants in the boxing industry. This time he should try to be professional if he wants some changes in his career.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Akaho - December 3
Post by: Jating on November 21, 2022, 09:46:13 AM
If he will win this fight that means he is back and people will feel his presence. If he wasn't disqualified, he is still a champion now, so it's still like Casimero the champion here, and fighting a challenger. Though it's a new division, I think Casimero is more comfortable here and he will have an impressive win for his comeback.

Who are betting here for Casimero to KO his opponent in less than 6 rounds?

He can win this one if he did some extensive training that will gonna give him a more comfortable easy fight as soon as he steps in the ring, He needs to do it right this time not showing any negativity because so far, he hasn't even got a good fight after disqualifications any other reasons. We know how cocky Casimero is but he only does that for promotions and to gain some fans he is doing it wrong and the result is not really good when it comes to getting what he wants in the boxing industry. This time he should try to be professional if he wants some changes in his career.

Love him or hate him, that is the character that Casimero wanted to portray in his boxing career. But the good thing is that he can back up his words because we have seen him knocking out his opponent, and so he remain very cocky.

And with that, and as we have seen lately, he still calls Inoue and perhaps that his dream fight because they should have face at 118 lbs, but not going to happen. But at least we still have a chance to see them in the ring when they go up to 122 lbs. This is just one step of Casimero and I think he can win this fight and not surprised if he will knock out his opponent.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Akaho - December 3
Post by: Kasabus on November 21, 2022, 02:06:59 PM
Funny thing is we aren't used by Casimero's silence after climbing the super bantamweight division, it is so unlikely of him to be this serious without making any appearances or noise for teasing his foes. But it's a good thing because he really is serious this time and will just want to surprise the world again of his return after the issue he was in few months before. Anyway, I'm really positive that he can defeat Akaho, I just want to see how will Casimero deliver the message in this division.

For me, just take it with a grain of salt. Maybe the media are not just following Casimero right now that's why no words coming from him are being made. A few days before the fight, I believed that will be the time we can some fresh related news about Casimero.

It's now around 2 weeks before this fight will officially take. Casimero is surely excited to return to the ring after months of being on hiatus.

That might be true or not, but that is not important as long as Casimero is now more serious on his future fight because this might be his last chance to prove his worthiness. If he cannot defeat Akaho then it might be best for him to say his goodbyes in the industry he loved as there's nothing he can do anymore. But as per chances, Casimero has the upper hand, and so I expect that he won't be struggling this time around especially now that his weight is not holding him anymore.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Akaho - December 3
Post by: mirakal on November 21, 2022, 02:57:20 PM
Funny thing is we aren't used by Casimero's silence after climbing the super bantamweight division, it is so unlikely of him to be this serious without making any appearances or noise for teasing his foes. But it's a good thing because he really is serious this time and will just want to surprise the world again of his return after the issue he was in few months before. Anyway, I'm really positive that he can defeat Akaho, I just want to see how will Casimero deliver the message in this division.

For me, just take it with a grain of salt. Maybe the media are not just following Casimero right now that's why no words coming from him are being made. A few days before the fight, I believed that will be the time we can some fresh related news about Casimero.

It's now around 2 weeks before this fight will officially take. Casimero is surely excited to return to the ring after months of being on hiatus.

That might be true or not, but that is not important as long as Casimero is now more serious on his future fight because this might be his last chance to prove his worthiness. If he cannot defeat Akaho then it might be best for him to say his goodbyes in the industry he loved as there's nothing he can do anymore. But as per chances, Casimero has the upper hand, and so I expect that he won't be struggling this time around especially now that his weight is not holding him anymore.

That's the right thing to do, it's not a championship fight for him but he should think about where he is now, if he wants to be a champion again, he cannot loss a single game. Who knows, he might face Inoue going forward, but like I said, he has to continue winning until he will be a challenger to the champion.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Akaho - December 3
Post by: Questat on November 21, 2022, 03:29:03 PM
Funny thing is we aren't used by Casimero's silence after climbing the super bantamweight division, it is so unlikely of him to be this serious without making any appearances or noise for teasing his foes. But it's a good thing because he really is serious this time and will just want to surprise the world again of his return after the issue he was in few months before. Anyway, I'm really positive that he can defeat Akaho, I just want to see how will Casimero deliver the message in this division.

For me, just take it with a grain of salt. Maybe the media are not just following Casimero right now that's why no words coming from him are being made. A few days before the fight, I believed that will be the time we can some fresh related news about Casimero.

It's now around 2 weeks before this fight will officially take. Casimero is surely excited to return to the ring after months of being on hiatus.

That might be true or not, but that is not important as long as Casimero is now more serious on his future fight because this might be his last chance to prove his worthiness. If he cannot defeat Akaho then it might be best for him to say his goodbyes in the industry he loved as there's nothing he can do anymore. But as per chances, Casimero has the upper hand, and so I expect that he won't be struggling this time around especially now that his weight is not holding him anymore.

That's the right thing to do, it's not a championship fight for him but he should think about where he is now, if he wants to be a champion again, he cannot loss a single game. Who knows, he might face Inoue going forward, but like I said, he has to continue winning until he will be a challenger to the champion.

Don't worry folks, Casimero exactly know the position he is in currently and the gravity of consequence if he cannot make it past this fight. That fact alone is enough for Casimero to strive hard in this new division, and he can't just give up because he haven't had the chance yet to dance with Inoue. We never know, Bob Arum might choose him for Inoue's debut.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Akaho - December 3
Post by: LUCKMCFLY on November 21, 2022, 04:26:05 PM
Let's say he got lucky to climb the top 5, the champions here are really tough to beat and I doubt Casimero can match those 2 champions holding the super bantamweight titles.

I hope Casimero can be considered by Inoue once the latter moved up weight. Inoue is expected not to go directly facing those champions once he moved up but for that fight against Casimero should happen, the Quadro Alas of PH should at least make it to the top rankings to be considered.
IMO those 2 champions at super bantamweight division is more easier than Inoue, if Casimero will fight against Inoue, there's no hope Casimero can win. At least Casimero need to beat either 2-3 boxers at this weight before taking a challenge to fight one of those champions, I think Murodjon Akhmadalievb is easier than Stephen Fulton to beat. It seems there's no way for Casimero to escape against Inoue, we might see they will fight each other sooner or later.

Yes, it is as you say, but it would have been excellent if Casimero could achieve something like that, because if he succeeds and can put up a good fight with Inoue it would be great, of course from the point of view how we can make the comparison between the two, for me Inoue he is very old, that is to say, he is on another level, that kind of doesn't suit Casimero much, at this moment a fight like this, I think Casimero would come out badly, it's not that he's bad, but I think that Inoue has a better alignment, more with everything he has achieved, for me he will be the undisputed, it will be very difficult to win a fight right now against the Japanese, he is very active and very serene, his fights are masterful.

Seeing Casimero heavily favored from the poll is not really that surprising and people are just waiting for his comeback since he was stripped by his WBO belt. So far, things are going well with Casimero inside his camp and I'm just not used that he's so silent since this bout has been finalized, so I assume that they're so serious inside the camp and with just a little 2 weeks left from his fight, it seems that he doesn't have that weight struggles anymore. Already excited about his return!

Anyway, here's an article I found earlier regarding Casimero's plans should he succeed in his upcoming fight.
Quote
"If I win against Akaho I want Naoya Inoue next as long as he does not run. I respect Akaho because he will fight me, he is not afraid," -Casimero said in an interview with A-Sign Boxing.
https://www.gmanetwork.com/news/sports/boxing/850209/john-riel-casimero-targets-inoue-showdown-after-ryo-akaho-fight/story/

When I thought that Casimero is quietly preparing for his fight against Akaho, he had to open his mouth and then call out Inoue hehehe.

Maybe that's what really his target, I mean we have been waiting for this fight against Inoue, unfortunately he can't make the weight at 118 lbs. But since both of them are moving up to 122 lbs, this fight is inevitable.

But first Casimero should take care of his business here and beat Akaho convincingly.

I think that Casimero should not have said that, in my country something is said: "You can't say chickens before birth," I think it must first concentrate on the fight against Akaho, I know that a boxer should and has to have its self -esteem For the heavens, but in this case you first have to guarantee the victory, go directly to Indeue is something very good and quite risky, I would not really do it, at least until Akaho won, that by my essential, one can always challenge someone Yes and only if he has a blunt victory, but if Casimero loses with what face he can ask for a fight against Inoue, this is what he must say before speaking.


Funny thing is we aren't used by Casimero's silence after climbing the super bantamweight division, it is so unlikely of him to be this serious without making any appearances or noise for teasing his foes. But it's a good thing because he really is serious this time and will just want to surprise the world again of his return after the issue he was in few months before. Anyway, I'm really positive that he can defeat Akaho, I just want to see how will Casimero deliver the message in this division.

For me, just take it with a grain of salt. Maybe the media are not just following Casimero right now that's why no words coming from him are being made. A few days before the fight, I believed that will be the time we can some fresh related news about Casimero.

It's now around 2 weeks before this fight will officially take. Casimero is surely excited to return to the ring after months of being on hiatus.

That might be true or not, but that is not important as long as Casimero is now more serious on his future fight because this might be his last chance to prove his worthiness. If he cannot defeat Akaho then it might be best for him to say his goodbyes in the industry he loved as there's nothing he can do anymore. But as per chances, Casimero has the upper hand, and so I expect that he won't be struggling this time around especially now that his weight is not holding him anymore.

That's the right thing to do, it's not a championship fight for him but he should think about where he is now, if he wants to be a champion again, he cannot loss a single game. Who knows, he might face Inoue going forward, but like I said, he has to continue winning until he will be a challenger to the champion.

Don't worry folks, Casimero exactly know the position he is in currently and the gravity of consequence if he cannot make it past this fight. That fact alone is enough for Casimero to strive hard in this new division, and he can't just give up because he haven't had the chance yet to dance with Inoue. We never know, Bob Arum might choose him for Inoue's debut.

Yes, you're right, but for a moment let's imagine that we are Casimero, it's hard, because the pressure he must be feeling is very great, first he has much more to lose than to win and apart from that Casimero talks that he wants to fight Inoue, and this it puts much more pressure on him, in that case where he really wanted to fight Inoue (which is a natural feeling) he would have challenged him if and only if he already had the victory and he would have done it in the middle of the round as soon as the fight had finished, because It is thus and only thus the most favorable way to be able to challenge, with a good victory.

Boxers like Casimero sometimes get very emotional and can say things that shouldn't be said, but since he spoke, he has to win no matter what.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Akaho - December 3
Post by: agustina2 on November 21, 2022, 10:54:08 PM
It's good that Casimero is just keeping his mouth shut at this fight.

Maybe he was being advised not to make too many talks and just do all the talking thru his punches in the actual fight. Akaho, on the other hand, is not giving any trash talks too and I'm sure he wasn't like that, and that may be the reason why Casimero is just silent too.

Casimero needs to do his best to win this fight. Still, a long way to go for him to be considered for a big match right now that's why every win is a must.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Akaho - December 3
Post by: chaser15 on November 21, 2022, 11:47:23 PM
Don't worry folks, Casimero exactly know the position he is in currently and the gravity of consequence if he cannot make it past this fight. That fact alone is enough for Casimero to strive hard in this new division, and he can't just give up because he haven't had the chance yet to dance with Inoue. We never know, Bob Arum might choose him for Inoue's debut.

I agree. Aside from that, Casimero knows very well that if he loses on this fight, there will be bad consequences that might happen or worst, he can't fight now as promoters won't be bothered to spend a fight for him because he is not capable now.

I'm expecting that his excitement to come back to the ring will fuel his eagerness to not let Akaho snatch a win against him.

This should be an easy fight for him or else.. doomed.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Akaho - December 3
Post by: harizen on November 21, 2022, 11:56:48 PM

Personally in my own view, I don't have any doubts that Casimero will struggle in this fight. He has all the advantages here except he is inactive for quiet sometime now but that shouldn't be a big deal. Casimero winning in this match will give him the opportunity to fight against top boxers in that division.

Let's patiently wait for the result of this match. I'm giving Casimero a 90% chance to win this match based on my own factors.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Akaho - December 3
Post by: lienfaye on November 22, 2022, 01:32:46 AM
It's good that Casimero is just keeping his mouth shut at this fight.
Yes and it's something unusual because we're used to seeing him bad mouthing his opponent and probably to create more hype. But he changed now for some reason, still good that he's keeping his mouth shut this time.

Let's patiently wait for the result of this match. I'm giving Casimero a 90% chance to win this match based on my own factors.
I'm also rooting for Casimero to win so he can step up himself for a big match on his future fights just incase.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Akaho - December 3
Post by: Fredomago on November 22, 2022, 08:05:55 AM

Personally in my own view, I don't have any doubts that Casimero will struggle in this fight. He has all the advantages here except he is inactive for quiet sometime now but that shouldn't be a big deal. Casimero winning in this match will give him the opportunity to fight against top boxers in that division.

Let's patiently wait for the result of this match. I'm giving Casimero a 90% chance to win this match based on my own factors.

Casimero's chance of winning is high in this fight, Akaho might be a good fighter but Casimero is not the same with those experienced that Akaho has beaten before, the level of skills and IQ of Casimero is very far from those boxers that Akaho fought during his young prime, now, it's Casimero's stairway to climb up in this division, he need this win as he is aiming for a higher rank or a chance of challenging the belt holder.

Let see if how he will deal with this and how he will win this fight against Akaho.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Akaho - December 3
Post by: Natalim on November 23, 2022, 02:03:42 PM

Personally in my own view, I don't have any doubts that Casimero will struggle in this fight. He has all the advantages here except he is inactive for quiet sometime now but that shouldn't be a big deal. Casimero winning in this match will give him the opportunity to fight against top boxers in that division.

Let's patiently wait for the result of this match. I'm giving Casimero a 90% chance to win this match based on my own factors.

Casimero's chance of winning is high in this fight, Akaho might be a good fighter but Casimero is not the same with those experienced that Akaho has beaten before, the level of skills and IQ of Casimero is very far from those boxers that Akaho fought during his young prime, now, it's Casimero's stairway to climb up in this division, he need this win as he is aiming for a higher rank or a chance of challenging the belt holder.

Let see if how he will deal with this and how he will win this fight against Akaho.

Time flies so fast, I didn't realize that we are going to see this fight in less than 2 weeks. I'm sure Casimero is well prepared already, no more worries on how to pass the weight requirement as he is in a heavier division, a win here is gonna make him a good challenger to the champion, but one step at a time until he becomes a mandatory challenger.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Akaho - December 3
Post by: Shamm on November 23, 2022, 02:28:54 PM

Personally in my own view, I don't have any doubts that Casimero will struggle in this fight. He has all the advantages here except he is inactive for quiet sometime now but that shouldn't be a big deal. Casimero winning in this match will give him the opportunity to fight against top boxers in that division.

Let's patiently wait for the result of this match. I'm giving Casimero a 90% chance to win this match based on my own factors.

Casimero's chance of winning is high in this fight, Akaho might be a good fighter but Casimero is not the same with those experienced that Akaho has beaten before, the level of skills and IQ of Casimero is very far from those boxers that Akaho fought during his young prime, now, it's Casimero's stairway to climb up in this division, he need this win as he is aiming for a higher rank or a chance of challenging the belt holder.

Let see if how he will deal with this and how he will win this fight against Akaho.

Time flies so fast, I didn't realize that we are going to see this fight in less than 2 weeks. I'm sure Casimero is well prepared already, no more worries on how to pass the weight requirement as he is in a heavier division, a win here is gonna make him a good challenger to the champion, but one step at a time until he becomes a mandatory challenger.

Yes you are right that mate time goes fast and 1 week and a half the fight will come and casimero will fight  against akaho which is this is the wayor a chance for casimero to be better once again and of he could win then for sure his name will recognize and popular. For now both side don't hire best and trained well in order to gives us a good fight and very interesting ro watch let's see in the fight date.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Akaho - December 3
Post by: mirakal on November 23, 2022, 04:21:03 PM
It's good that Casimero is just keeping his mouth shut at this fight.

Maybe he was being advised not to make too many talks and just do all the talking thru his punches in the actual fight. Akaho, on the other hand, is not giving any trash talks too and I'm sure he wasn't like that, and that may be the reason why Casimero is just silent too.

Casimero needs to do his best to win this fight. Still, a long way to go for him to be considered for a big match right now that's why every win is a must.

Not really surprised that this Ryo Akaho is also silent since their fight has been scheduled because Japanese people are known to be polite, courteous and very respectful towards other people. However, Casimero is different, this man is known to be messing with you in the head until the day of the fight. He just never stops talking about anything that sometimes he already looks like a fool, but this time is different. He is now under the radar pouring all his days in training for this fight of redemption.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Akaho - December 3
Post by: LUCKMCFLY on November 23, 2022, 06:10:50 PM
Here's some more information:


By looking at these details and knowing a little of these two athletes, it will be a very good fight. Akaho, may be surprising and put Casimero on guard and win some points with it. I do not believe there will be a knock out, but it will be a tuff fight.

So, my guess is it will be; either a draw or Casimero will have the best.

Majority is in favor with Casimero because he is much well know compare to Akaho but its really dangerous for him to belittle his opponent since he is inactive for so many days and this might give effect to his fighting style and Akaho will dominate him. I consider this as a good match up between them since whoever wins for sure they can bring good honors and maybe they could get more bigger fight after this match.

It's almost unlikely to happen because this fight is quite personal to Casimero as he needs to avenge his fellow countrymen who fell in the hands of Ryo Akaho and the most important is to write his name back in the industry to have a chance in fighting the guys who's a title holder.
His chances are good against Akaho, so there shouldn't be a problem and Casimero don't have any records that he underestimate his foes, he just like to play mind games to them to mess their heads.

Yes, in that sense he has a good maturity in terms of his opponents, he is not a seeker, of course I know that Akaho has hit Casimero's compatriots very hard, this time perhaps Casimero has the responsibility of being able to avenge his companions, but in such a case I see that you cannot claim victory so quickly, the only way is for Akaho to make a lot of mistakes, and both boxers are very good, of course, in my particular situation I have followed Casimero much more than Akaho, for I usually follow everything he has done and all the incidents that are generated around him, therefore when we watch boxing we are much more inclined towards what we know more about.

It's good that Casimero is just keeping his mouth shut at this fight.

Maybe he was being advised not to make too many talks and just do all the talking thru his punches in the actual fight. Akaho, on the other hand, is not giving any trash talks too and I'm sure he wasn't like that, and that may be the reason why Casimero is just silent too.

Casimero needs to do his best to win this fight. Still, a long way to go for him to be considered for a big match right now that's why every win is a must.

Not really surprised that this Ryo Akaho is also silent since their fight has been scheduled because Japanese people are known to be polite, courteous and very respectful towards other people. However, Casimero is different, this man is known to be messing with you in the head until the day of the fight. He just never stops talking about anything that sometimes he already looks like a fool, but this time is different. He is now under the radar pouring all his days in training for this fight of redemption.

This is easy to interpret, Casimero has spoken more, and only the fact of having said that after this fight he will fight against Inoue is almost like a provocation given to Akaho, you cannot say or speak more and less in boxing, things, things They are like that, it is also as you say, the Japanese are very gentlemen, they are educational people and do not walk much around what they can and cannot, this is something that in boxing takes into account.

Now, boxing in this case is a weapon with double edge edge edges for casimero, I didn't have to have spoken, I think he speaks more to get excited in the full interview, but it was a mistake, those things should not be said, if Casimero loses, the one who will look bad will be him for everything.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Akaho - December 3
Post by: inthelongrun on November 24, 2022, 12:38:49 PM
Earlier today while watching Youtube during my lunch, I encountered a video of Johnreil Casimero. So he is currently in Thailand training for his scheduled fight with Ryo Akaho. Good thing that he is away in the Philippines and away from many temptations. They are still vlogging but his companions seem nice and humble people unlike the arrogant Marc Lontayao and his toxic entourage. Casimero can focus more on this training in Thailand with fewer distractions and hopefully, he won't be short with spar mates either to emulate Akaho's fighting style.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Akaho - December 3
Post by: bisdak40 on November 24, 2022, 01:34:09 PM
Earlier today while watching Youtube during my lunch, I encountered a video of Johnreil Casimero. So he is currently in Thailand training for his scheduled fight with Ryo Akaho. Good thing that he is away in the Philippines and away from many temptations. They are still vlogging but his companions seem nice and humble people unlike the arrogant Marc Lontayao and his toxic entourage. Casimero can focus more on this training in Thailand with fewer distractions and hopefully, he won't be short with spar mates either to emulate Akaho's fighting style.

I don't know and recognized this Marc Lontayao but it's good that he is not with Quadro Alas team anymore so as to minimize the toxic people around him. The team is still vlogging but they seldom upload videos on their channel so that they won't repeat the mistake they have committed during their preparation for the Butler fight.

I also read in the news just hours ago that Casimero already got his visa for Korea so I think in the next few days he will fly to South Korea for the final preparation for his fight with Akaho.

I'm excited as to who will be the favorite in this fight but unfortunately, the odds are not released yet.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Akaho - December 3
Post by: Slow death on November 24, 2022, 01:46:00 PM
It's good that Casimero is just keeping his mouth shut at this fight.

Casimero has his mouth shut because he has nothing to say, what would he say? what would he boast about? When fighters have one or more belts, they show off and talk a lot to get more attention from the media and also put psychological pressure on their opponent, it turns out that in this case Casimero has nothing to show off for that reason he can only remain silent and wait for fight day and see if he can win this fight, that's all he can do

Maybe he was being advised not to make too many talks and just do all the talking thru his punches in the actual fight. Akaho, on the other hand, is not giving any trash talks too and I'm sure he wasn't like that, and that may be the reason why Casimero is just silent too.

Akaho also has nothing to say, what would he say? when these fighters always talk about showing off what they have at that moment, something like showing off their belt or because they beat someone very strong and important, then they show off, but in the case of Akaho, he is 36 years old, he failed in previous fights for the heavyweight titles. Junior bantamweight WBC (115 pounds) and bantamweight WBO and Akaho, he doesn't have a good defense something that Casimero can very well take advantage of his weakness in my opinion



Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Akaho - December 3
Post by: mirakal on November 24, 2022, 06:23:59 PM
It's good that Casimero is just keeping his mouth shut at this fight.

Maybe he was being advised not to make too many talks and just do all the talking thru his punches in the actual fight. Akaho, on the other hand, is not giving any trash talks too and I'm sure he wasn't like that, and that may be the reason why Casimero is just silent too.

Casimero needs to do his best to win this fight. Still, a long way to go for him to be considered for a big match right now that's why every win is a must.

Not really surprised that this Ryo Akaho is also silent since their fight has been scheduled because Japanese people are known to be polite, courteous and very respectful towards other people. However, Casimero is different, this man is known to be messing with you in the head until the day of the fight. He just never stops talking about anything that sometimes he already looks like a fool, but this time is different. He is now under the radar pouring all his days in training for this fight of redemption.

This is easy to interpret, Casimero has spoken more, and only the fact of having said that after this fight he will fight against Inoue is almost like a provocation given to Akaho, you cannot say or speak more and less in boxing, things, things They are like that, it is also as you say, the Japanese are very gentlemen, they are educational people and do not walk much around what they can and cannot, this is something that in boxing takes into account.

Now, boxing in this case is a weapon with double edge edge edges for casimero, I didn't have to have spoken, I think he speaks more to get excited in the full interview, but it was a mistake, those things should not be said, if Casimero loses, the one who will look bad will be him for everything.


If Akaho is indeed provoked by that then he already have stooped down Casimero's level because he was swayed by that kind of statement. Apart from Casimero's true agenda, he might have said that line purposely to mess Akaho and to think that Casimero is underestimating him because he is already forecasting future fights that isn't yet sure that will come. And just like what you have said, it is always a double edged sword for Casimero and that is his choice.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Akaho - December 3
Post by: harizen on November 24, 2022, 06:30:24 PM
It's good that Casimero is just keeping his mouth shut at this fight.

Casimero has his mouth shut because he has nothing to say, what would he say? what would he boast about? When fighters have one or more belts, they show off and talk a lot to get more attention from the media and also put psychological pressure on their opponent, it turns out that in this case Casimero has nothing to show off for that reason he can only remain silent and wait for fight day and see if he can win this fight, that's all he can do

We can't blame the community if they are not used to seeing Casimero's changed behavior right now as that wasn't his usual. However, you have a point though that it might not make sense to make some noise because he is currently not a champion now. However, that's not the reason I'm thinking but because of those events that lead to being stripped out of his belt, not just once but twice.

Regardless, a bit of trash talk should be nice to start some fire. Seems boring if these 2 boxers won't start making some noise thru trash talks. :D


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Akaho - December 3
Post by: Yaunfitda on November 24, 2022, 09:03:51 PM
It's good that Casimero is just keeping his mouth shut at this fight.

Casimero has his mouth shut because he has nothing to say, what would he say? what would he boast about? When fighters have one or more belts, they show off and talk a lot to get more attention from the media and also put psychological pressure on their opponent, it turns out that in this case Casimero has nothing to show off for that reason he can only remain silent and wait for fight day and see if he can win this fight, that's all he can do

We can't blame the community if they are not used to seeing Casimero's changed behavior right now as that wasn't his usual. However, you have a point though that it might not make sense to make some noise because he is currently not a champion now. However, that's not the reason I'm thinking but because of those events that lead to being stripped out of his belt, not just once but twice.

Regardless, a bit of trash talk should be nice to start some fire. Seems boring if these 2 boxers won't start making some noise thru trash talks. :D
Or maybe he learned his lessons not to open his mouth, or at least back it up, and since he has no belts right now, he can't boast of anything. He can attack Inoue in social media, but not sure if Inoue will be interested at him since he has no belt at all.

Nevertheless, if he can proved once again that he still has that brandish style and has the knock out power, maybe the super bantamweight including the champion will take notice of him. Right now, it's better for him to really zip his mouth and do the talking in the ring.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Akaho - December 3
Post by: Fredomago on November 25, 2022, 12:53:51 PM

Personally in my own view, I don't have any doubts that Casimero will struggle in this fight. He has all the advantages here except he is inactive for quiet sometime now but that shouldn't be a big deal. Casimero winning in this match will give him the opportunity to fight against top boxers in that division.

Let's patiently wait for the result of this match. I'm giving Casimero a 90% chance to win this match based on my own factors.

Casimero's chance of winning is high in this fight, Akaho might be a good fighter but Casimero is not the same with those experienced that Akaho has beaten before, the level of skills and IQ of Casimero is very far from those boxers that Akaho fought during his young prime, now, it's Casimero's stairway to climb up in this division, he need this win as he is aiming for a higher rank or a chance of challenging the belt holder.

Let see if how he will deal with this and how he will win this fight against Akaho.

Time flies so fast, I didn't realize that we are going to see this fight in less than 2 weeks. I'm sure Casimero is well prepared already, no more worries on how to pass the weight requirement as he is in a heavier division, a win here is gonna make him a good challenger to the champion, but one step at a time until he becomes a mandatory challenger.


Weight is no longer an issue for Casimero but it won't favor him since he will be facing a much heavier opponent, though for sure he already adjusts and with his determination and will, he can win this fight. We just can't discredit Akaho as he has lots of experienced from this division and for sure he will not give that win as easy as it is for Casimero.

Though one thing is for sure, this step will give Casimero a chance to chase for the belt, but he needs to win this fight in an impressive way.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Akaho - December 3
Post by: cryptomaniac_xxx on November 25, 2022, 12:57:58 PM

Personally in my own view, I don't have any doubts that Casimero will struggle in this fight. He has all the advantages here except he is inactive for quiet sometime now but that shouldn't be a big deal. Casimero winning in this match will give him the opportunity to fight against top boxers in that division.

Let's patiently wait for the result of this match. I'm giving Casimero a 90% chance to win this match based on my own factors.

Casimero's chance of winning is high in this fight, Akaho might be a good fighter but Casimero is not the same with those experienced that Akaho has beaten before, the level of skills and IQ of Casimero is very far from those boxers that Akaho fought during his young prime, now, it's Casimero's stairway to climb up in this division, he need this win as he is aiming for a higher rank or a chance of challenging the belt holder.

Let see if how he will deal with this and how he will win this fight against Akaho.

Time flies so fast, I didn't realize that we are going to see this fight in less than 2 weeks. I'm sure Casimero is well prepared already, no more worries on how to pass the weight requirement as he is in a heavier division, a win here is gonna make him a good challenger to the champion, but one step at a time until he becomes a mandatory challenger.


Weight is no longer an issue for Casimero but it won't favor him since he will be facing a much heavier opponent, though for sure he already adjusts and with his determination and will, he can win this fight. We just can't discredit Akaho as he has lots of experienced from this division and for sure he will not give that win as easy as it is for Casimero.

The height as well, although most of the time, boxer that is shorter can also win fight, but it is very important to see that Casimero might face taller boxer and heavier as they are in their natural weight class and this could post a big problem for Casimero specially his aggressive style, in my opinion.

Though one thing is for sure, this step will give Casimero a chance to chase for the belt, but he needs to win this fight in an impressive way.

Yes, again though, it might be a tougher road ahead in the super bantamweight as the best fighters have settled down a bit. So he will have to slowly go up in rankings because having a chance to fight for the belt and this is just his first step.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Akaho - December 3
Post by: btc_angela on November 25, 2022, 01:58:28 PM
It's good that Casimero is just keeping his mouth shut at this fight.

Maybe he was being advised not to make too many talks and just do all the talking thru his punches in the actual fight. Akaho, on the other hand, is not giving any trash talks too and I'm sure he wasn't like that, and that may be the reason why Casimero is just silent too.

Casimero needs to do his best to win this fight. Still, a long way to go for him to be considered for a big match right now that's why every win is a must.

Not really surprised that this Ryo Akaho is also silent since their fight has been scheduled because Japanese people are known to be polite, courteous and very respectful towards other people. However, Casimero is different, this man is known to be messing with you in the head until the day of the fight. He just never stops talking about anything that sometimes he already looks like a fool, but this time is different. He is now under the radar pouring all his days in training for this fight of redemption.

I haven't check Akaho's record but probably this could be the first time that he might be facing at least a well known boxer, so he didn't know how to react. As you compare to Inoue, wherein he always respond to Casimero's taunt on social media.

Overall though, Japanese fighters are respectful towards their opponent and as long as they are going to be respected, then there are no bad mouthing. And yes, definitely, there is a issue on the language as well.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Akaho - December 3
Post by: carlisle1 on November 25, 2022, 03:06:39 PM
It's good that Casimero is just keeping his mouth shut at this fight.

Maybe he was being advised not to make too many talks and just do all the talking thru his punches in the actual fight. Akaho, on the other hand, is not giving any trash talks too and I'm sure he wasn't like that, and that may be the reason why Casimero is just silent too.

Casimero needs to do his best to win this fight. Still, a long way to go for him to be considered for a big match right now that's why every win is a must.

Not really surprised that this Ryo Akaho is also silent since their fight has been scheduled because Japanese people are known to be polite, courteous and very respectful towards other people. However, Casimero is different, this man is known to be messing with you in the head until the day of the fight. He just never stops talking about anything that sometimes he already looks like a fool, but this time is different. He is now under the radar pouring all his days in training for this fight of redemption.

I haven't check Akaho's record but probably this could be the first time that he might be facing at least a well known boxer, so he didn't know how to react. As you compare to Inoue, wherein he always respond to Casimero's taunt on social media.

Overall though, Japanese fighters are respectful towards their opponent and as long as they are going to be respected, then there are no bad mouthing. And yes, definitely, there is a issue on the language as well.

Japanese fighters do have that kind of tradition, they respect people and like what you have said, if there's no badmouthing they will not engage
they will just fight for a win as culture state that they needed to bring everything with pride.

On the other side, Casimero should learn from it and do the same, just fight and show what he got inside the ring.

Better to do it in action, not in words, proving something can be concluded after the fight!


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Akaho - December 3
Post by: Cling18 on November 25, 2022, 03:54:54 PM
It's good that Casimero is just keeping his mouth shut at this fight.

Maybe he was being advised not to make too many talks and just do all the talking thru his punches in the actual fight. Akaho, on the other hand, is not giving any trash talks too and I'm sure he wasn't like that, and that may be the reason why Casimero is just silent too.

Casimero needs to do his best to win this fight. Still, a long way to go for him to be considered for a big match right now that's why every win is a must.

Not really surprised that this Ryo Akaho is also silent since their fight has been scheduled because Japanese people are known to be polite, courteous and very respectful towards other people. However, Casimero is different, this man is known to be messing with you in the head until the day of the fight. He just never stops talking about anything that sometimes he already looks like a fool, but this time is different. He is now under the radar pouring all his days in training for this fight of redemption.

I haven't check Akaho's record but probably this could be the first time that he might be facing at least a well known boxer, so he didn't know how to react. As you compare to Inoue, wherein he always respond to Casimero's taunt on social media.

Overall though, Japanese fighters are respectful towards their opponent and as long as they are going to be respected, then there are no bad mouthing. And yes, definitely, there is a issue on the language as well.

Japanese fighters do have that kind of tradition, they respect people and like what you have said, if there's no badmouthing they will not engage
they will just fight for a win as culture state that they needed to bring everything with pride.

On the other side, Casimero should learn from it and do the same, just fight and show what he got inside the ring.

Better to do it in action, not in words, proving something can be concluded after the fight!
I've noticed the same thing with Japanese boxers. They aren't bad mouthing against their opponents which make them gain respect in return. It's their nature to respect other culture which is actually one of their best traits.

Casimero also has the same personality. He prefers proving his strength in the ring rather than boasting and saying bad things about his opponents just like what he did on his previous matches.
Their silence actually makes the fight more interesting.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Akaho - December 3
Post by: Shamm on November 25, 2022, 04:39:40 PM
It's good that Casimero is just keeping his mouth shut at this fight.

Maybe he was being advised not to make too many talks and just do all the talking thru his punches in the actual fight. Akaho, on the other hand, is not giving any trash talks too and I'm sure he wasn't like that, and that may be the reason why Casimero is just silent too.

Casimero needs to do his best to win this fight. Still, a long way to go for him to be considered for a big match right now that's why every win is a must.

Not really surprised that this Ryo Akaho is also silent since their fight has been scheduled because Japanese people are known to be polite, courteous and very respectful towards other people. However, Casimero is different, this man is known to be messing with you in the head until the day of the fight. He just never stops talking about anything that sometimes he already looks like a fool, but this time is different. He is now under the radar pouring all his days in training for this fight of redemption.

I haven't check Akaho's record but probably this could be the first time that he might be facing at least a well known boxer, so he didn't know how to react. As you compare to Inoue, wherein he always respond to Casimero's taunt on social media.

Overall though, Japanese fighters are respectful towards their opponent and as long as they are going to be respected, then there are no bad mouthing. And yes, definitely, there is a issue on the language as well.

Japanese fighters do have that kind of tradition, they respect people and like what you have said, if there's no badmouthing they will not engage
they will just fight for a win as culture state that they needed to bring everything with pride.

On the other side, Casimero should learn from it and do the same, just fight and show what he got inside the ring.

Better to do it in action, not in words, proving something can be concluded after the fight!

Yes you are right that mate casimero must do an action than words because as we observe his last fight he speak too much and for now to keep moving forward casimero must do his rule he must quite but deadly inside the ring it because we all know how akaho plays. Akaho is one of the good boxers, so casimero must not underestimate his opponent and do his best in the fight.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Akaho - December 3
Post by: mirakal on November 25, 2022, 06:03:41 PM
It's good that Casimero is just keeping his mouth shut at this fight.

Casimero has his mouth shut because he has nothing to say, what would he say? what would he boast about? When fighters have one or more belts, they show off and talk a lot to get more attention from the media and also put psychological pressure on their opponent, it turns out that in this case Casimero has nothing to show off for that reason he can only remain silent and wait for fight day and see if he can win this fight, that's all he can do

We can't blame the community if they are not used to seeing Casimero's changed behavior right now as that wasn't his usual. However, you have a point though that it might not make sense to make some noise because he is currently not a champion now. However, that's not the reason I'm thinking but because of those events that lead to being stripped out of his belt, not just once but twice.

Regardless, a bit of trash talk should be nice to start some fire. Seems boring if these 2 boxers won't start making some noise thru trash talks. :D
Or maybe he learned his lessons not to open his mouth, or at least back it up, and since he has no belts right now, he can't boast of anything. He can attack Inoue in social media, but not sure if Inoue will be interested at him since he has no belt at all.

Nevertheless, if he can proved once again that he still has that brandish style and has the knock out power, maybe the super bantamweight including the champion will take notice of him. Right now, it's better for him to really zip his mouth and do the talking in the ring.

Well, right now, Casimero should know his place first as he is a first timer in this division and might be best for him to lower his head first because he doesn't have anything yet to boast. Not sure what happened to him lately after he was stripped because that made him changed but there's surely a reason why or he maybe just learned his lesson because having a bigmouth seems not helping his situation.

After this, if Casimero will successfully defeat Akaho, we might see some speculations regarding him and Inoue.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Akaho - December 3
Post by: serjent05 on November 25, 2022, 07:26:57 PM
I've noticed the same thing with Japanese boxers. They aren't bad mouthing against their opponents which make them gain respect in return. It's their nature to respect other culture which is actually one of their best traits.

I think that is one of the disciplines of Japanese boxers.  They respect and never belittle their opponent.  I agree, that it is also their culture.  They give respect to sports and athletes that participate in it no matter how skillful or not they are.

Casimero also has the same personality. He prefers proving his strength in the ring rather than boasting and saying bad things about his opponents just like what he did on his previous matches.
Their silence actually makes the fight more interesting.

It was before until he found out that bragging and boasting give his fight more popularity and interest.  It is disrespectful to showboat when an opponent got knock down.  And Casimero often displays disrespect for his opponent in his previous fights.  This is another reason why I don't like Casimero that much, because of his attitude inside and outside the ring.


Well, right now, Casimero should know his place first as he is a first timer in this division and might be best for him to lower his head first because he doesn't have anything yet to boast. Not sure what happened to him lately after he was stripped because that made him changed but there's surely a reason why or he maybe just learned his lesson because having a bigmouth seems not helping his situation.

Indeed he has to prove himself on this fight.  Going up after losing the titles and the scandal that cost him his title is a huge factor that downgrade his popularity.  So he should KO Akaho in this fight to regain those lost popularity and once again prove that Casimero did not fall to becoming an oridnary boxer after moving up his weight division.

After this, if Casimero will successfully defeat Akaho, we might see some speculations regarding him and Inoue.

I think this will happen after Inoue goes up in weight division but right now, Casimero doesn't have the record or popularity to back him up in order to pull a match against Inoue.  In short, Casimero virtually goes back to where he started.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Akaho - December 3
Post by: Kemarit on November 25, 2022, 07:33:32 PM
It's good that Casimero is just keeping his mouth shut at this fight.

Casimero has his mouth shut because he has nothing to say, what would he say? what would he boast about? When fighters have one or more belts, they show off and talk a lot to get more attention from the media and also put psychological pressure on their opponent, it turns out that in this case Casimero has nothing to show off for that reason he can only remain silent and wait for fight day and see if he can win this fight, that's all he can do

We can't blame the community if they are not used to seeing Casimero's changed behavior right now as that wasn't his usual. However, you have a point though that it might not make sense to make some noise because he is currently not a champion now. However, that's not the reason I'm thinking but because of those events that lead to being stripped out of his belt, not just once but twice.

Regardless, a bit of trash talk should be nice to start some fire. Seems boring if these 2 boxers won't start making some noise thru trash talks. :D
Or maybe he learned his lessons not to open his mouth, or at least back it up, and since he has no belts right now, he can't boast of anything. He can attack Inoue in social media, but not sure if Inoue will be interested at him since he has no belt at all.

Nevertheless, if he can proved once again that he still has that brandish style and has the knock out power, maybe the super bantamweight including the champion will take notice of him. Right now, it's better for him to really zip his mouth and do the talking in the ring.

Well, right now, Casimero should know his place first as he is a first timer in this division and might be best for him to lower his head first because he doesn't have anything yet to boast. Not sure what happened to him lately after he was stripped because that made him changed but there's surely a reason why or he maybe just learned his lesson because having a bigmouth seems not helping his situation.

Prior to becoming a bantamweight champion, Casimero has been like this before, I mean willing to take challenges and then proving everyone that he is for real.

Remember that he should to travel to the enemy's territories and beat their champion, so that's how Casimero's personality is. But he did take it a notch when he become champion, and he can't shut that big mouth of his even calling Inoue.

After this, if Casimero will successfully defeat Akaho, we might see some speculations regarding him and Inoue.

There are already some video of his circulating already, and who knows, once he defeated Akaho he will open that big mouth of his and not just calling Inoue, but the rest of the champion like Stephen Fulton.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Akaho - December 3
Post by: Baofeng on November 25, 2022, 11:21:54 PM
We also have to consider the quality of opponents Casimero has face in the past as compare to Akaho.

Akaho has failed in this two world championship attempts, while Casimero has been tearing the bantamweight leading to the failed fight against Paul Butler. And John Riel is the younger of the two, the road warrior but obviously the experience goes to Akaho as he has been professional boxers for 17 years as to Casimero's 15. But again as I have said, the key difference is the opponents that they have fought and so I think this is the big advantage for John Riel Casimero to win impressively.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Akaho - December 3
Post by: Hypnosis00 on November 26, 2022, 06:32:56 AM
We also have to consider the quality of opponents Casimero has face in the past as compare to Akaho.

Akaho has failed in this two world championship attempts, while Casimero has been tearing the bantamweight leading to the failed fight against Paul Butler. And John Riel is the younger of the two, the road warrior but obviously the experience goes to Akaho as he has been professional boxers for 17 years as to Casimero's 15. But again as I have said, the key difference is the opponents that they have fought and so I think this is the big advantage for John Riel Casimero to win impressively.

That's the only advantage I see on Akaho, but overall, maybe 80% advantages goes to Casimero. I hope he is still the same, the hunger to win should still be there so he will beat Akaho impressively, the best way to win is via KO and that should be his goal in this fight.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Akaho - December 3
Post by: Baofeng on November 26, 2022, 11:32:23 AM
We also have to consider the quality of opponents Casimero has face in the past as compare to Akaho.

Akaho has failed in this two world championship attempts, while Casimero has been tearing the bantamweight leading to the failed fight against Paul Butler. And John Riel is the younger of the two, the road warrior but obviously the experience goes to Akaho as he has been professional boxers for 17 years as to Casimero's 15. But again as I have said, the key difference is the opponents that they have fought and so I think this is the big advantage for John Riel Casimero to win impressively.

That's the only advantage I see on Akaho, but overall, maybe 80% advantages goes to Casimero. I hope he is still the same, the hunger to win should still be there so he will beat Akaho impressively, the best way to win is via KO and that should be his goal in this fight.

Yeah, but being a road warrior like Casimero, who have traveled 5 continents to defend or get the belt from the home town champion? That is already a big experience in his belt, so to speak.

And I do agree that if he wanted to impressive everyone, including rank and the champion in this division, is to win a knockout, at least like giving the rest of the 122 lbs that he is ready in this division and willing to face anyone and that they are going to get knock out as well.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Akaho - December 3
Post by: Fredomago on November 26, 2022, 05:42:22 PM
We also have to consider the quality of opponents Casimero has face in the past as compare to Akaho.

Akaho has failed in this two world championship attempts, while Casimero has been tearing the bantamweight leading to the failed fight against Paul Butler. And John Riel is the younger of the two, the road warrior but obviously the experience goes to Akaho as he has been professional boxers for 17 years as to Casimero's 15. But again as I have said, the key difference is the opponents that they have fought and so I think this is the big advantage for John Riel Casimero to win impressively.

That's the only advantage I see on Akaho, but overall, maybe 80% advantages goes to Casimero. I hope he is still the same, the hunger to win should still be there so he will beat Akaho impressively, the best way to win is via KO and that should be his goal in this fight.

Yeah, but being a road warrior like Casimero, who have traveled 5 continents to defend or get the belt from the home town champion? That is already a big experience in his belt, so to speak.

And I do agree that if he wanted to impressive everyone, including rank and the champion in this division, is to win a knockout, at least like giving the rest of the 122 lbs that he is ready in this division and willing to face anyone and that they are going to get knock out as well.
Sending a signal to gain the attentions of everyone especially the promoters, if he will win that way he will get decent hype under his name, we know him as he really love playing with fame, he might call someone's name once he got the interview. Or he might do something that will gather the fans' support to bring him to a money fight or a negotiation for a title fight.

But, for us to discuss his next fight, we need to see him first, winning this match with an impressive outcome.

By doing that, he will make his step earn an extra one, then we never know what will be the next in his story line.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Akaho - December 3
Post by: Vaculin on November 26, 2022, 07:01:07 PM

Well, right now, Casimero should know his place first as he is a first timer in this division and might be best for him to lower his head first because he doesn't have anything yet to boast. Not sure what happened to him lately after he was stripped because that made him changed but there's surely a reason why or he maybe just learned his lesson because having a bigmouth seems not helping his situation.

Indeed he has to prove himself on this fight.  Going up after losing the titles and the scandal that cost him his title is a huge factor that downgrade his popularity.  So he should KO Akaho in this fight to regain those lost popularity and once again prove that Casimero did not fall to becoming an oridnary boxer after moving up his weight division.

I agree that a knockout will be the ultimate goal for Casimero to retrieve what he has lost recently, except for that title, obviously. But a win is a win even if it is just a UD. He should just forget about achieving more if he cannot really do it this time as he still needs some adjustment because he haven't got any fights for some time now. Defeating Akaho will still mean the same thing, he will still go through the ranks.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Akaho - December 3
Post by: Kemarit on November 26, 2022, 08:55:15 PM

Well, right now, Casimero should know his place first as he is a first timer in this division and might be best for him to lower his head first because he doesn't have anything yet to boast. Not sure what happened to him lately after he was stripped because that made him changed but there's surely a reason why or he maybe just learned his lesson because having a bigmouth seems not helping his situation.

Indeed he has to prove himself on this fight.  Going up after losing the titles and the scandal that cost him his title is a huge factor that downgrade his popularity.  So he should KO Akaho in this fight to regain those lost popularity and once again prove that Casimero did not fall to becoming an oridnary boxer after moving up his weight division.

I agree that a knockout will be the ultimate goal for Casimero to retrieve what he has lost recently, except for that title, obviously. But a win is a win even if it is just a UD. He should just forget about achieving more if he cannot really do it this time as he still needs some adjustment because he haven't got any fights for some time now. Defeating Akaho will still mean the same thing, he will still go through the ranks.

Right, if he wants to keep his name of top of this new division, he should come in with a bang, so his goal is to really win by a knockout. And that is what known from Casimero, so arrogant and brandish that you hate him sometimes but he delivered the goods when he was at the bantamweight, it just he fell short of fighting Butler or Inoue.

But since he move up to super bantamweight, he need to be impressive and just not just a ordinary win because he is not a ordinary boxer. He has the talent and the boxer and I think he can regain back, at least one title in 122 lbs will do good for him.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Akaho - December 3
Post by: serjent05 on November 26, 2022, 09:23:18 PM
We also have to consider the quality of opponents Casimero has face in the past as compare to Akaho.

Akaho has failed in this two world championship attempts, while Casimero has been tearing the bantamweight leading to the failed fight against Paul Butler. And John Riel is the younger of the two, the road warrior but obviously the experience goes to Akaho as he has been professional boxers for 17 years as to Casimero's 15. But again as I have said, the key difference is the opponents that they have fought and so I think this is the big advantage for John Riel Casimero to win impressively.

There is no doubt that Casimero is a fearless boxer.  I watched the fight when he go to the country of the champion and got mobbed by the audience when he won the fight.  I think that is the fight that put Casimero on the map  ;D.  About experience, 17 years and 15 years is almost even when it comes to determining a veteran boxer.  They both have lots of fights, lots of pressure, and downfall, so basically I think no one has an advantage when it comes to boxing experience. 

The thing is Casimero is a controversial boxer which made him more popular than Akaho.  Between boxers, the younger primed boxer has more advantages than the older primed boxer especially when the older boxer is about to get passed his prime.  So between I believe Casimero has the advantage in this fight.


Well, right now, Casimero should know his place first as he is a first timer in this division and might be best for him to lower his head first because he doesn't have anything yet to boast. Not sure what happened to him lately after he was stripped because that made him changed but there's surely a reason why or he maybe just learned his lesson because having a bigmouth seems not helping his situation.

Indeed he has to prove himself on this fight.  Going up after losing the titles and the scandal that cost him his title is a huge factor that downgrade his popularity.  So he should KO Akaho in this fight to regain those lost popularity and once again prove that Casimero did not fall to becoming an oridnary boxer after moving up his weight division.

I agree that a knockout will be the ultimate goal for Casimero to retrieve what he has lost recently, except for that title, obviously. But a win is a win even if it is just a UD. He should just forget about achieving more if he cannot really do it this time as he still needs some adjustment because he haven't got any fights for some time now. Defeating Akaho will still mean the same thing, he will still go through the ranks.

If ever Casimero has to win via UD, he must show the audience that he dominates the fight.  A close UD fight will somehow put Casimero's ability to compete in that division questionable.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Akaho - December 3
Post by: BitDane on November 26, 2022, 10:16:14 PM

Right, if he wants to keep his name of top of this new division, he should come in with a bang, so his goal is to really win by a knockout. And that is what known from Casimero, so arrogant and brandish that you hate him sometimes but he delivered the goods when he was at the bantamweight, it just he fell short of fighting Butler or Inoue.

I do not think that Casimero's name will explode after defeating Akaho.  As far as I know Akaho is still an unknown boxer, so defeating him doesn't mean Casimero will be on top again.  If Casimero wanted to be listed as among the top contender of the Division, I believe he needs to fight more boxers and even a rematch with Tete and beat him.  That maybe put Casimero to the ranking again.

But since he move up to super bantamweight, he need to be impressive and just not just a ordinary win because he is not a ordinary boxer. He has the talent and the boxer and I think he can regain back, at least one title in 122 lbs will do good for him.

I agree, a KO is a good win, or a dominating performance that will give him a mile score in UD if the fight lasted till the final round.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Akaho - December 3
Post by: Jawhead999 on November 27, 2022, 03:43:03 AM
I believe he needs to fight more boxers and even a rematch with Tete and beat him.  That maybe put Casimero to the ranking again.
Did you mean Zolani Tete? Casimero won via TKO against him on 2019, I don't think there's much hype of boxing fans want a rematch between Casimero vs Tete. Casimero need to challenge a champion if he want to gain his popularity, right now either Casimero and Akaho are still unknown boxer out there.

Quote
I agree, a KO is a good win, or a dominating performance that will give him a mile score in UD if the fight lasted till the final round.
I doubt he can win via KO, his previous match against Guillermo Rigondeaux is really close, although he still win via split decision.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Akaho - December 3
Post by: stadus on November 27, 2022, 08:39:47 AM
Looking at the poll, there is a user here who voted for Ryo Akaho? Who are you and why did you choose him? Nah, just joking! ;D

I'm just glad to see that there's someone here who is in favor to the Japanese boxer and not John Riel Casimero, surprising enough but it is a good thing though because this means that there is indeed a competition here. Though I'm just not sure if he can really make some difference here because I'm seeing this Ryo as a local boxer which is kinda different to Casimero's league who is fighting in the mainstream.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Akaho - December 3
Post by: bisdak40 on November 27, 2022, 11:49:12 AM
I believe he needs to fight more boxers and even a rematch with Tete and beat him.  That maybe put Casimero to the ranking again.
Did you mean Zolani Tete? Casimero won via TKO against him on 2019, I don't think there's much hype of boxing fans want a rematch between Casimero vs Tete. Casimero need to challenge a champion if he want to gain his popularity, right now either Casimero and Akaho are still unknown boxer out there.

Quote
I agree, a KO is a good win, or a dominating performance that will give him a mile score in UD if the fight lasted till the final round.
I doubt he can win via KO, his previous match against Guillermo Rigondeaux is really close, although he still win via split decision.

A rematch with Tete I think won't happen in the next few years as I have read in one article that he was suspended from boxing as he was found to have an illegal substance in his body, just forgot where I read that one but I'll post the link if ever i found that again.

With regards to Rigo vs Casimero, there was no fighting that have happened there because Rigo didn't come to the ring that night to fight, he was in his usual self, the one that is on the defensive mode and tried not to engage his opponent  :).

I'm closely following the conditioning of Casimero through his vlog and the vlog of his friend in Thailand and i could see that he is all set and ready to go and for me there's a high chance that he would win via KO.

edit:

Team Quadro Alas is already in the Paradise City South Korea as of this writing.

https://i.imgur.com/WSG7Drf.png



Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Akaho - December 3
Post by: yazher on November 27, 2022, 12:14:09 PM
Looking at the poll, there is a user here who voted for Ryo Akaho? Who are you and why did you choose him? Nah, just joking! ;D

I'm just glad to see that there's someone here who is in favor to the Japanese boxer and not John Riel Casimero, surprising enough but it is a good thing though because this means that there is indeed a competition here. Though I'm just not sure if he can really make some difference here because I'm seeing this Ryo as a local boxer which is kinda different to Casimero's league who is fighting in the mainstream.

Of course, that's why we have some times kinds of unexpected events where we see an upset because the supposed boxer will dominate his opponent is taking a lot of damage and is mostly stunned by an underdog opponent. This is a sport and with enough practice and skill to adapt to how to counter his opponents throughout the rounds will gonna his ace to win the fight. Casimero should not underestimate his opponent because he hasn't been in the ring for a long time and he might be caught by a surprise.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Akaho - December 3
Post by: Russlenat on November 27, 2022, 01:17:28 PM
Looking at the poll, there is a user here who voted for Ryo Akaho? Who are you and why did you choose him? Nah, just joking! ;D

I'm just glad to see that there's someone here who is in favor to the Japanese boxer and not John Riel Casimero, surprising enough but it is a good thing though because this means that there is indeed a competition here. Though I'm just not sure if he can really make some difference here because I'm seeing this Ryo as a local boxer which is kinda different to Casimero's league who is fighting in the mainstream.

Of course, that's why we have some times kinds of unexpected events where we see an upset because the supposed boxer will dominate his opponent is taking a lot of damage and is mostly stunned by an underdog opponent. This is a sport and with enough practice and skill to adapt to how to counter his opponents throughout the rounds will gonna his ace to win the fight. Casimero should not underestimate his opponent because he hasn't been in the ring for a long time and he might be caught by a surprise.

He should, instead, must train harder to get an impressive win. He was inactive due to the fact that he was disqualified, I hope he will forget the past and will just focus on the future, maybe make that as an inspiration that making the same mistake will surely end his career in boxing.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Akaho - December 3
Post by: mirakal on November 27, 2022, 02:28:51 PM
I believe he needs to fight more boxers and even a rematch with Tete and beat him.  That maybe put Casimero to the ranking again.
Did you mean Zolani Tete? Casimero won via TKO against him on 2019, I don't think there's much hype of boxing fans want a rematch between Casimero vs Tete. Casimero need to challenge a champion if he want to gain his popularity, right now either Casimero and Akaho are still unknown boxer out there.

Quote
I agree, a KO is a good win, or a dominating performance that will give him a mile score in UD if the fight lasted till the final round.
I doubt he can win via KO, his previous match against Guillermo Rigondeaux is really close, although he still win via split decision.

I understand that there's too many questions up in our mind that needs answer, currently, all we can do is wait for Casimero to finish his bout against Ryo Akaho and after that maybe we can get some answers to it. It seems impossible to do but Casimero in the bantamweight is already an old news because he is now entering the super-bantam, so it's pretty much better if we just forget what he did in that division because he is now starting from the bottom again.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Akaho - December 3
Post by: Natalim on November 27, 2022, 06:18:10 PM
It's good that Casimero is just keeping his mouth shut at this fight.

Maybe he was being advised not to make too many talks and just do all the talking thru his punches in the actual fight. Akaho, on the other hand, is not giving any trash talks too and I'm sure he wasn't like that, and that may be the reason why Casimero is just silent too.

Casimero needs to do his best to win this fight. Still, a long way to go for him to be considered for a big match right now that's why every win is a must.

Not really surprised that this Ryo Akaho is also silent since their fight has been scheduled because Japanese people are known to be polite, courteous and very respectful towards other people. However, Casimero is different, this man is known to be messing with you in the head until the day of the fight. He just never stops talking about anything that sometimes he already looks like a fool, but this time is different. He is now under the radar pouring all his days in training for this fight of redemption.

I haven't check Akaho's record but probably this could be the first time that he might be facing at least a well known boxer, so he didn't know how to react. As you compare to Inoue, wherein he always respond to Casimero's taunt on social media.

Overall though, Japanese fighters are respectful towards their opponent and as long as they are going to be respected, then there are no bad mouthing. And yes, definitely, there is a issue on the language as well.

Japanese fighters do have that kind of tradition, they respect people and like what you have said, if there's no badmouthing they will not engage
they will just fight for a win as culture state that they needed to bring everything with pride.

On the other side, Casimero should learn from it and do the same, just fight and show what he got inside the ring.

Better to do it in action, not in words, proving something can be concluded after the fight!
I've noticed the same thing with Japanese boxers. They aren't bad mouthing against their opponents which make them gain respect in return. It's their nature to respect other culture which is actually one of their best traits.

Casimero also has the same personality. He prefers proving his strength in the ring rather than boasting and saying bad things about his opponents just like what he did on his previous matches.
Their silence actually makes the fight more interesting.

That's what they are known for, since they were kids they are already trained to respect others and taught to be courteous which explains why we cannot see any Japanese boxers who speaks ill languages with the likes of Inoue, Akaho, and Ioka to name a few.

In contrast with Casimero, he is known to be messing with the other boxers to make some hype or to trigger them to make things much easier for him because he is already messed up in the head. But yes, Casimero is not the kind who boast, he just wanted to talk like that because that is his way.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Akaho - December 3
Post by: lionheart78 on November 27, 2022, 07:26:20 PM
Looking at the poll, there is a user here who voted for Ryo Akaho? Who are you and why did you choose him? Nah, just joking! ;D

I'm just glad to see that there's someone here who is in favor to the Japanese boxer and not John Riel Casimero, surprising enough but it is a good thing though because this means that there is indeed a competition here. Though I'm just not sure if he can really make some difference here because I'm seeing this Ryo as a local boxer which is kinda different to Casimero's league who is fighting in the mainstream.

Of course, that's why we have some times kinds of unexpected events where we see an upset because the supposed boxer will dominate his opponent is taking a lot of damage and is mostly stunned by an underdog opponent. This is a sport and with enough practice and skill to adapt to how to counter his opponents throughout the rounds will gonna his ace to win the fight. Casimero should not underestimate his opponent because he hasn't been in the ring for a long time and he might be caught by a surprise.

I agree, idling for too long somehow made one's skill a bit rusty.  This is probably one of the reasons why Casimero's camp pick a less popular and somehow on the end of its prime boxer.  And yes, Casimero should not underestimate Akaho because Akaho has a 60% knockout on his record.  This means Akaho is a hard puncher which can render Casimero kissing the canvas if Casimer become cocky and careless.

In contrast with Casimero, he is known to be messing with the other boxers to make some hype or to trigger them to make things much easier for him because he is already messed up in the head. But yes, Casimero is not the kind who boast, he just wanted to talk like that because that is his way.

There is a reason behind Casimero's antiques I just can find the video link when he reasons about him trash-talking his opponents. He found out that being quiet will not get the audience's attention and will not make him talk of the newspapers and social media.  So the moment he learned that he needs to brag and at least have a bad boy image to be able for the mainstream media to take notice of him, he starts trash-talking and showboating which can be misunderstood as disrespecting his opponent.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Akaho - December 3
Post by: cryptomaniac_xxx on November 27, 2022, 08:12:07 PM
Looking at the poll, there is a user here who voted for Ryo Akaho? Who are you and why did you choose him? Nah, just joking! ;D

I'm just glad to see that there's someone here who is in favor to the Japanese boxer and not John Riel Casimero, surprising enough but it is a good thing though because this means that there is indeed a competition here. Though I'm just not sure if he can really make some difference here because I'm seeing this Ryo as a local boxer which is kinda different to Casimero's league who is fighting in the mainstream.

Of course, that's why we have some times kinds of unexpected events where we see an upset because the supposed boxer will dominate his opponent is taking a lot of damage and is mostly stunned by an underdog opponent. This is a sport and with enough practice and skill to adapt to how to counter his opponents throughout the rounds will gonna his ace to win the fight. Casimero should not underestimate his opponent because he hasn't been in the ring for a long time and he might be caught by a surprise.

I agree, idling for too long somehow made one's skill a bit rusty.  This is probably one of the reasons why Casimero's camp pick a less popular and somehow on the end of its prime boxer.  And yes, Casimero should not underestimate Akaho because Akaho has a 60% knockout on his record.  This means Akaho is a hard puncher which can render Casimero kissing the canvas if Casimer become cocky and careless.

In contrast with Casimero, he is known to be messing with the other boxers to make some hype or to trigger them to make things much easier for him because he is already messed up in the head. But yes, Casimero is not the kind who boast, he just wanted to talk like that because that is his way.

There is a reason behind Casimero's antiques I just can find the video link when he reasons about him trash-talking his opponents. He found out that being quiet will not get the audience's attention and will not make him talk of the newspapers and social media.  So the moment he learned that he needs to brag and at least have a bad boy image to be able for the mainstream media to take notice of him, he starts trash-talking and showboating which can be misunderstood as disrespecting his opponent.

Yes, it's called ring rust, when boxers is gone for so long from the ring, somewhat they become a bit rusty. There are great boxers who can just shake this off in a couple of rounds and be back. But most of the time even good boxers need more rounds to acclimatized themselves again inside the ring, with their power and timing and this is what Casimero is doing here.

Another reason is that is a new division for him, so he just can't fight a higher rank fighter.

He needs someone like Akaho, who is good in paper but probably he can beat to be his opponents, to bring back his confidence and make himself accustomed to the weight and see how he can absorb the power.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Akaho - December 3
Post by: serjent05 on November 27, 2022, 10:17:25 PM
Yes, it's called ring rust, when boxers is gone for so long from the ring, somewhat they become a bit rusty. There are great boxers who can just shake this off in a couple of rounds and be back. But most of the time even good boxers need more rounds to acclimatized themselves again inside the ring, with their power and timing and this is what Casimero is doing here.

I think one of the good example of this so-called ring rust is the fight between Teofimo Lopez and Vasily Lomachenco where Lomachenco was out of the ring for too long that he started really slow during the fight.  When all his ring rust is removed, it is too late for Lomachengco to win the fight.  Another example is Tete after a year of rest from his injury and got a mandatory fight against Casimero.  Zolani Tete was caught by surprise and was unable to adjust costing him the fight.  Tete was KO'ed by Casimero on that fight.


Another reason is that is a new division for him, so he just can't fight a higher rank fighter.

I think that works in his favor.  Casimer need to tune up on his new Division so I think having Akaho as his first opponent in the division is a good thing.  Tough but not explosive fighter.

He needs someone like Akaho, who is good in paper but probably he can beat to be his opponents, to bring back his confidence and make himself accustomed to the weight and see how he can absorb the power.

I agree, I also think that Casimero is the better boxer of the two and we might be in for a treat here since it looks like Casimero is well prepared on this fight.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Akaho - December 3
Post by: passwordnow on November 27, 2022, 10:25:33 PM
So this happens first a few days before Pacquiao and DK Yoo's exhibition match.

I agree, I also think that Casimero is the better boxer of the two and we might be in for a treat here since it looks like Casimero is well prepared on this fight.
I'll say the same thing because I only know more about Casimero but with Akaho, looking at his stats it's impressive too. Whoever is the most disciplined in this match will win and that's for sure. I'll need to watch some fights of Akaho because his stats really impressed me.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Akaho - December 3
Post by: Fredomago on November 27, 2022, 10:27:07 PM
I believe he needs to fight more boxers and even a rematch with Tete and beat him.  That maybe put Casimero to the ranking again.
Did you mean Zolani Tete? Casimero won via TKO against him on 2019, I don't think there's much hype of boxing fans want a rematch between Casimero vs Tete. Casimero need to challenge a champion if he want to gain his popularity, right now either Casimero and Akaho are still unknown boxer out there.

Quote
I agree, a KO is a good win, or a dominating performance that will give him a mile score in UD if the fight lasted till the final round.
I doubt he can win via KO, his previous match against Guillermo Rigondeaux is really close, although he still win via split decision.

I understand that there's too many questions up in our mind that needs answer, currently, all we can do is wait for Casimero to finish his bout against Ryo Akaho and after that maybe we can get some answers to it. It seems impossible to do but Casimero in the bantamweight is already an old news because he is now entering the super-bantam, so it's pretty much better if we just forget what he did in that division because he is now starting from the bottom again.

Correct, he is now moving forward so whatever it is from his previous division should be left on that division and let him do the process from the bottom and see if he can achieved from this chosen path, who knows maybe his promoters will manage to bring him more money fight after Akaho.

We should wait if what preparation he did from this fight and how he can throw those solid punches once Akaho engaged to a toe-to-toe confrontation.

Knowing Casimero, he also has that killer KO combo punches, if he will be given a chance, we might see him throwing those and see if Akaho will kiss the canvass.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Akaho - December 3
Post by: harizen on November 27, 2022, 10:37:40 PM
This is probably one of the reasons why Casimero's camp pick a less popular and somehow on the end of its prime boxer. 

I think they didn't do some cherry-pick here because, in the first place, Casimero is not yet eligible to face the current Top 10 and promoters might not be interested in doing so. Since Akaho is currently on a winning streak against PH Boxers, it's an opportunity for him to defeat again another PH boxer although Casimero is on a different level as he is a former world champion in the Bantamweight.

Moving forward, a fight at 122 lbs shouldn't be a problem for Casimero as that was his usual weight now. The fight will take place in the upcoming weekend and we will now witness if Casimero can still be deadly in the ring after being on hiatus for over a year.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Akaho - December 3
Post by: Viscore on November 27, 2022, 10:56:07 PM
We also have to consider the quality of opponents Casimero has face in the past as compare to Akaho.

Akaho has failed in this two world championship attempts, while Casimero has been tearing the bantamweight leading to the failed fight against Paul Butler. And John Riel is the younger of the two, the road warrior but obviously the experience goes to Akaho as he has been professional boxers for 17 years as to Casimero's 15. But again as I have said, the key difference is the opponents that they have fought and so I think this is the big advantage for John Riel Casimero to win impressively.
Akaho has real more advantage than Casimero when it comes to boxing experience, but that won’t be a sole guarantee that Casimero is now the underdog. Aside from he’s younger than his opponent, Casimero has shown already he’s being ring smart and got his sense of timing and distance in a ring. So if Casimero will be able to perform skillfully in the ring, regardless how experienced Akaho is, surely Casimero will always be declare as the winner.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Akaho - December 3
Post by: goinmerry on November 27, 2022, 11:59:11 PM
In terms of experienced, I think Casimero does have a greater weight compared to Akaho.

Casimero becomes a champion at 118 lbs while Akaho doesn't have any good achievements at 122 lbs. There are not many differences in fighting at 118 lbs and 122 lbs that's why it's clear that Casimero owns every advantage here in this fight.

The only problem on the side of Casimero is ring rust which I think he can surely address on the day of the fight.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Akaho - December 3
Post by: Kelvinid on November 28, 2022, 07:29:24 AM
In terms of experienced, I think Casimero does have a greater weight compared to Akaho.

Casimero becomes a champion at 118 lbs while Akaho doesn't have any good achievements at 122 lbs. There are not many differences in fighting at 118 lbs and 122 lbs that's why it's clear that Casimero owns every advantage here in this fight.

The only problem on the side of Casimero is ring rust which I think he can surely address on the day of the fight.


As to number of fights, Akaho has better experience because he has 39 fights which is higher than the total fights of Casimero, however, we should look at the quality of opponents here and certainly Casimero has the advantage in terms of opponents he beat. This isn't really a hype fight as Casimero is popular while Akaho is just an ordinary boxer, however, Casimero should not underestimate his opponent.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Akaho - December 3
Post by: carlisle1 on November 28, 2022, 12:32:41 PM
In terms of experienced, I think Casimero does have a greater weight compared to Akaho.

Casimero becomes a champion at 118 lbs while Akaho doesn't have any good achievements at 122 lbs. There are not many differences in fighting at 118 lbs and 122 lbs that's why it's clear that Casimero owns every advantage here in this fight.

The only problem on the side of Casimero is ring rust which I think he can surely address on the day of the fight.


As to number of fights, Akaho has better experience because he has 39 fights which is higher than the total fights of Casimero, however, we should look at the quality of opponents here and certainly Casimero has the advantage in terms of opponents he beat. This isn't really a hype fight as Casimero is popular while Akaho is just an ordinary boxer, however, Casimero should not underestimate his opponent.

He should not and he should focus on how he can beat Akaho. Experienced most of the time gives the advantage for the fighter, but your point is also valid. Casimero is not an ordinary fighter who moves to this new division.

He was a former champ, though he was stripped and that won't fit to his resume under this new division but the fighting skills and the IQ that also
counts in terms of boxing.

He can use that as a counter advantage against Akaho. Both will show their skills and capabilities, but only one will win the fight.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Akaho - December 3
Post by: Vaculin on November 28, 2022, 04:52:02 PM
Right, if he wants to keep his name of top of this new division, he should come in with a bang, so his goal is to really win by a knockout. And that is what known from Casimero, so arrogant and brandish that you hate him sometimes but he delivered the goods when he was at the bantamweight, it just he fell short of fighting Butler or Inoue.

But since he move up to super bantamweight, he need to be impressive and just not just a ordinary win because he is not a ordinary boxer. He has the talent and the boxer and I think he can regain back, at least one title in 122 lbs will do good for him.

Yes, I certainly agree about that. People still loved him even if he's foul mouthed some times because he can always prove that he can do what he has been talking about, but these days, people are curious about him because this ain't the Casimero they knew as the entire camp is now silent and no one is throwing some words at each other's camp.

The fight is near now, I hope Casimero can deliver a good message this time and announce it publicly that he is indeed back to make business, now in the super-bantamweight division.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Akaho - December 3
Post by: serjent05 on November 28, 2022, 09:24:28 PM
Right, if he wants to keep his name of top of this new division, he should come in with a bang, so his goal is to really win by a knockout. And that is what known from Casimero, so arrogant and brandish that you hate him sometimes but he delivered the goods when he was at the bantamweight, it just he fell short of fighting Butler or Inoue.

But since he move up to super bantamweight, he need to be impressive and just not just a ordinary win because he is not a ordinary boxer. He has the talent and the boxer and I think he can regain back, at least one title in 122 lbs will do good for him.

Yes, I certainly agree about that. People still loved him even if he's foul mouthed some times because he can always prove that he can do what he has been talking about, but these days, people are curious about him because this ain't the Casimero they knew as the entire camp is now silent and no one is throwing some words at each other's camp.

That is because Akaho never retaliate on the trash talk of Casimero.  there is even a video clip where Casimero is somhow annoyed that Akaho do not trash talk his opponent.  Since Casimero is trying to hype the fight via trash-talk, his attempt to hype the fight failed because Akaho did not participate.[1]  ;D  Remember in boxing, it takes two to tango so Casimero is kinda annoyed when Akaho did not agree to trash talk with him.


The fight is near now, I hope Casimero can deliver a good message this time and announce it publicly that he is indeed back to make business, now in the super-bantamweight division.

Yeah, just a couple of day from now, we will know the result of our assumptions and speculation.  I wanted Casimero to win via KO but of course, we want both boxers to be safe after the fight.




[1] https://youtu.be/_0A4_5YoxAU?t=239


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Akaho - December 3
Post by: AmoreJaz on November 28, 2022, 09:39:09 PM
In terms of experienced, I think Casimero does have a greater weight compared to Akaho.

Casimero becomes a champion at 118 lbs while Akaho doesn't have any good achievements at 122 lbs. There are not many differences in fighting at 118 lbs and 122 lbs that's why it's clear that Casimero owns every advantage here in this fight.

The only problem on the side of Casimero is ring rust which I think he can surely address on the day of the fight.


As to number of fights, Akaho has better experience because he has 39 fights which is higher than the total fights of Casimero, however, we should look at the quality of opponents here and certainly Casimero has the advantage in terms of opponents he beat. This isn't really a hype fight as Casimero is popular while Akaho is just an ordinary boxer, however, Casimero should not underestimate his opponent.

as casimero wants to redeem himself, he should not really take this fight for granted. remember the fights that didn't pursue because of his weight issues, now, that he moves up to a higher weight division, he should not give anymore excuses to delay or pause the fight. he doesn't have much time to make another excuse as he is also battling with time. inoue is already far away from his reach, where he previously was chasing after to fight with.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Akaho - December 3
Post by: goinmerry on November 28, 2022, 09:44:53 PM
In terms of experienced, I think Casimero does have a greater weight compared to Akaho.

Casimero becomes a champion at 118 lbs while Akaho doesn't have any good achievements at 122 lbs. There are not many differences in fighting at 118 lbs and 122 lbs that's why it's clear that Casimero owns every advantage here in this fight.

The only problem on the side of Casimero is ring rust which I think he can surely address on the day of the fight.


As to number of fights, Akaho has better experience because he has 39 fights which is higher than the total fights of Casimero, however, we should look at the quality of opponents here and certainly Casimero has the advantage in terms of opponents he beat. This isn't really a hype fight as Casimero is popular while Akaho is just an ordinary boxer, however, Casimero should not underestimate his opponent.

Just as you pointed out, quality over quantity. Even with lots of official fights compared to Casimero, Akaho faced mostly non-popular boxers and he doesn't experience much fighting in a big title match. Although it's really impressive that from his 39 fights, 26 of those are won thru Knockout. Not bad for

Checking all Akaho's previous opponents, no one might not be in the same league as Casimero. Not overhyping Casimero because he's my countryman but just stating some good facts. Akaho might be the underdog here but I hoped he can give Casimero a difficult match.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Akaho - December 3
Post by: bisdak40 on November 28, 2022, 09:54:38 PM

That is because Akaho never retaliate on the trash talk of Casimero.  there is even a video clip where Casimero is somhow annoyed that Akaho do not trash talk his opponent.  Since Casimero is trying to hype the fight via trash-talk, his attempt to hype the fight failed because Akaho did not participate.[1]  ;D  Remember in boxing, it takes two to tango so Casimero is kinda annoyed when Akaho did not agree to trash talk with him.

Maybe Akaho's personality is not a trash-talking type which is why he chose not to engage in a word war with Casimero which is a good thing also because most of the Japanese boxers are not known with that type or at least I have not known one.

Hyped or not this fight will go as planned as this is not a big fight that the boxing community anticipates, i mean this is just another fight that the Korean promoters want to stage to add entertainment to their casino but also a must-win for Casimero.

Few days left before the fight but still i have not seen the odds for this fight, excited to see who is the favorite and to what extent.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Akaho - December 3
Post by: harizen on November 28, 2022, 10:45:51 PM
Few days left before the fight but still i have not seen the odds for this fight, excited to see who is the favorite and to what extent.

Yes, the odds are still not out even on some boxing analysis-related websites.

And as usual, in crypto bookies, we can expect this fight to be listed at least a day or two before the official fight date. But I'm thinking if is there any possibility that this fight won't be listed in crypto bookies? I just think of it now because in the past, where PH boxers are involved even in a big title match e.g Magsayo vs Gary Russell Jr., Casimero vs Rigondeaux, etc. even how big the event is, they were just listed a day before the right. Since this fight between Casimero and Akaho doesn't really have an impact, might not be considered listed by crypto-bookies.

Of course, just my guess. :)


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Akaho - December 3
Post by: Baofeng on November 28, 2022, 11:01:55 PM
Few days left before the fight but still i have not seen the odds for this fight, excited to see who is the favorite and to what extent.

Yes, the odds are still not out even on some boxing analysis-related websites.

And as usual, in crypto bookies, we can expect this fight to be listed at least a day or two before the official fight date. But I'm thinking if is there any possibility that this fight won't be listed in crypto bookies? I just think of it now because in the past, where PH boxers are involved even in a big title match e.g Magsayo vs Gary Russell Jr., Casimero vs Rigondeaux, etc. even how big the event is, they were just listed a day before the right. Since this fight between Casimero and Akaho doesn't really have an impact, might not be considered listed by crypto-bookies.

Of course, just my guess. :)

Yes, obviously this fight is going to be listed 24 hours before the actual fight, I don't want to speculate here specially it involved PH boxers.

I will just say that maybe there is no hype in this fight or any other fights that PH boxer is involved, that's why the odds are not released early. And it's on a lower class, usually this fight doesn't get the usual love from any betting sites unless it's really hype name involved.

So we will wait mate, probably it's Casimero that will be the favorite but we are all looking forward to maybe what will be the odds on the under/over rounds and KO.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Akaho - December 3
Post by: LUCKMCFLY on November 29, 2022, 02:46:01 AM
Poll would not lie, Casimero got 96.3% of the total votes here, so it's very obvious that most of us here believe that Casimero will win. Actually, I don't believe that when a boxer is inactive he will not be the same, because if a boxer that is inactive were active in the gym practicing, there should be no changes on his conditioning, Casimero was only inactive in professional sports but I'm pretty sure he keeps himself in shape all the time.

Maybe the poll was influenced by the fact that many users who read this thread were compatriots of Casimero like myself but in reality, though Quadro Alas has the advantage in this fight though the odds are not released yet but there's a big chance that Casimero would be the huge favorite in this fight.

Casimero is out of the ring for quite some time now so ring rust might be an issue but considering that this is a comeback fight and a must-win for him, he will do whatever it takes to take the W at the end of 12 rounds if this would go the distance.
Whether Casimero would be the favorite or not then people cant really just easily tell that this is a walk in the park kind of fight for him, if we do look out on statistics of Akaho then he's more far experienced
than with Casimero but if you do look up on its history of fights then it is mostly done on his local. I havent seen this guy on how he fights and i might be considering on watching up some replays
and vids in relation to this and do make out some comparison and tell up on how these fighters or boxers do really fight or simply how good they are on technical plus
that endurance and of course in overall power.

We don't know the capabilities of Casimero's opponent unless we see them fighting inside the same ring, all opinions and speculation are base to how people interact with both fighters, just like what you mentioned Akaho is more experienced than Casimero as they will going to fight in his division, even Casimero is a former champ but with this new division he is new and he needs to take that risk bringing everything in these upcoming fight.

If you really wanted to analyze the fighter, you need to watch those replays and assess if which fighters have a greater chance of winning the fight.
If that is a great way to be able to study the opinion, in fact when a boxer focuses on what things he does more often it is possible to find out what the fighter can come out at a given moment, in the case of Casimero he can study all the videos They can be used by Akhao, but I think that Akaho can change his strategy and his way of fighting very quickly, something that I have noticed in Akaho is that he always changes his way of facing his opponents, the style can be the same, but the combinations he applies are different and I think he takes into account the physicality of the opponent and takes into account what he can possibly do, he is a very calculating boxer.


I don't know if you have noticed that style that Akaho has, or maybe I look at things that not everyone looks for, I see it from the point of view more focused on technique.

Experienced really matters and we know Akaho's resume, if you noticed that kind of strategy from him maybe because he really have it inside him, adopting and adjusting with how his opponent's will try to take him, I also believe that instinct inside each fighters most the time help them to develop skills during the fight, if the plan seems not to be working they will adjust and keep finding ways on how they will make the tempo favorable in their side.

We will only know whose strategy will work when they already delivering it and when they execute it the right way.



Well Akaho's technique is very good, he is a boxer who is not very famous, really when he compares or fights against Casimero I think Casimero is more famous than him, however it is as I have always said, in boxing any thing can happen, ´for me a boxer can make a difference in any eventuality and his training is something that can always make a difference anywhere, in these fights the one who has the most to lose is Casimero, he wants and needs to win this fight , now he got into an 11-bullet shirt, because he already challenged Inoue, and that became the moral level of winning no matter what.

Few days left before the fight but still i have not seen the odds for this fight, excited to see who is the favorite and to what extent.

Yes, the odds are still not out even on some boxing analysis-related websites.

And as usual, in crypto bookies, we can expect this fight to be listed at least a day or two before the official fight date. But I'm thinking if is there any possibility that this fight won't be listed in crypto bookies? I just think of it now because in the past, where PH boxers are involved even in a big title match e.g Magsayo vs Gary Russell Jr., Casimero vs Rigondeaux, etc. even how big the event is, they were just listed a day before the right. Since this fight between Casimero and Akaho doesn't really have an impact, might not be considered listed by crypto-bookies.

Of course, just my guess. :)

Yes, obviously this fight is going to be listed 24 hours before the actual fight, I don't want to speculate here specially it involved PH boxers.

I will just say that maybe there is no hype in this fight or any other fights that PH boxer is involved, that's why the odds are not released early. And it's on a lower class, usually this fight doesn't get the usual love from any betting sites unless it's really hype name involved.

So we will wait mate, probably it's Casimero that will be the favorite but we are all looking forward to maybe what will be the odds on the under/over rounds and KO.

Well, I also think that Casimero could be the favorite, there are some boxing forums, under which I read them almost every day, and many Latinos obviously go to Casimero, Akaho is a boxer who can offer a very different style from that of Casimero, obviously what it could be that Casimero is very careful because I think that the one who has the most to lose here for anything is him, from Akaho, as he had said before, he felt very underestimated, because Casimero said that he wanted to after this fight, going for Inoue, practically what he did was say that he would win easily without effort, I think he got into a little trouble.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Akaho - December 3
Post by: Fredomago on November 29, 2022, 12:09:46 PM
Few days left before the fight but still i have not seen the odds for this fight, excited to see who is the favorite and to what extent.

Yes, the odds are still not out even on some boxing analysis-related websites.

And as usual, in crypto bookies, we can expect this fight to be listed at least a day or two before the official fight date. But I'm thinking if is there any possibility that this fight won't be listed in crypto bookies? I just think of it now because in the past, where PH boxers are involved even in a big title match e.g Magsayo vs Gary Russell Jr., Casimero vs Rigondeaux, etc. even how big the event is, they were just listed a day before the right. Since this fight between Casimero and Akaho doesn't really have an impact, might not be considered listed by crypto-bookies.

Of course, just my guess. :)

Yes, obviously this fight is going to be listed 24 hours before the actual fight, I don't want to speculate here specially it involved PH boxers.

I will just say that maybe there is no hype in this fight or any other fights that PH boxer is involved, that's why the odds are not released early. And it's on a lower class, usually this fight doesn't get the usual love from any betting sites unless it's really hype name involved.

So we will wait mate, probably it's Casimero that will be the favorite but we are all looking forward to maybe what will be the odds on the under/over rounds and KO.

Maybe on the day of the fight we will see available odd from the bookies, so far there's no available yet and like you mentioned the recognition on the international world might not be appealing that's why bookies is not providing early odds for this upcoming fight, Casimero might be a star but in this new division, he just a beginner and Akaho is not that well-known so there are just few gamblers who are waiting for this betting odds.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Akaho - December 3
Post by: Kelvinid on November 29, 2022, 12:20:50 PM
In terms of experienced, I think Casimero does have a greater weight compared to Akaho.

Casimero becomes a champion at 118 lbs while Akaho doesn't have any good achievements at 122 lbs. There are not many differences in fighting at 118 lbs and 122 lbs that's why it's clear that Casimero owns every advantage here in this fight.

The only problem on the side of Casimero is ring rust which I think he can surely address on the day of the fight.


As to number of fights, Akaho has better experience because he has 39 fights which is higher than the total fights of Casimero, however, we should look at the quality of opponents here and certainly Casimero has the advantage in terms of opponents he beat. This isn't really a hype fight as Casimero is popular while Akaho is just an ordinary boxer, however, Casimero should not underestimate his opponent.

as casimero wants to redeem himself, he should not really take this fight for granted. remember the fights that didn't pursue because of his weight issues, now, that he moves up to a higher weight division, he should not give anymore excuses to delay or pause the fight. he doesn't have much time to make another excuse as he is also battling with time. inoue is already far away from his reach, where he previously was chasing after to fight with.

It's gonna be his last chance, if he is not going to show up here then there's no way he can come back of being a champion. It's very simple, not beating non-champion makes him have no chance of beating a champion. Akaho is not a popular boxer, spectators might think it's just an easy fight for him, but he should be calm, don't talk too much trash-talk, just wait for his time to prove that he deserve to be a champion.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Akaho - December 3
Post by: bisdak40 on November 29, 2022, 09:30:27 PM
Well, I also think that Casimero could be the favorite, there are some boxing forums, under which I read them almost every day, and many Latinos obviously go to Casimero, Akaho is a boxer who can offer a very different style from that of Casimero, obviously what it could be that Casimero is very careful because I think that the one who has the most to lose here for anything is him, from Akaho, as he had said before, he felt very underestimated, because Casimero said that he wanted to after this fight, going for Inoue, practically what he did was say that he would win easily without effort, I think he got into a little trouble.


I agree with you that Casimero has the most to lose here but i also think that he can withstand this hurdle and ultimately win this fight.

I read an article where one of Philippine's boxing analyst said that this fight is a mismatch for Casimero and he said that Akaho's style is tailor-fit for Quadro Alas for the latter to look good in the ring.

Akaho's game plan would be to box and threw those jabs but i don't think that he can sustain that all night and keep Casimero at bay because Casimero is very good at cutting the distance and if he did close the gap, the fight will be over.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Akaho - December 3
Post by: Fredomago on November 30, 2022, 08:29:02 AM
Well, I also think that Casimero could be the favorite, there are some boxing forums, under which I read them almost every day, and many Latinos obviously go to Casimero, Akaho is a boxer who can offer a very different style from that of Casimero, obviously what it could be that Casimero is very careful because I think that the one who has the most to lose here for anything is him, from Akaho, as he had said before, he felt very underestimated, because Casimero said that he wanted to after this fight, going for Inoue, practically what he did was say that he would win easily without effort, I think he got into a little trouble.


I agree with you that Casimero has the most to lose here but i also think that he can withstand this hurdle and ultimately win this fight.

I read an article where one of Philippine's boxing analyst said that this fight is a mismatch for Casimero and he said that Akaho's style is tailor-fit for Quadro Alas for the latter to look good in the ring.

Akaho's game plan would be to box and threw those jabs but i don't think that he can sustain that all night and keep Casimero at bay because Casimero is very good at cutting the distance and if he did close the gap, the fight will be over.

if Akaho will engage that much with Casimero he's risking his fate as like you mentioned Casimero is good in cutting the distance and also Casimero is good in engaging with a toe-to-toe confrontations, he love that engagement and he will try to dominate if by chance Akaho's punches is not that heavy to endure.

Casimero will keep that close fist fight and he will try to knock down Akaho. He will take that chance if Akaho will be careless in this fight, he will be forcing that KO outcome.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Akaho - December 3
Post by: Kelvinid on November 30, 2022, 11:18:00 AM
Well, I also think that Casimero could be the favorite, there are some boxing forums, under which I read them almost every day, and many Latinos obviously go to Casimero, Akaho is a boxer who can offer a very different style from that of Casimero, obviously what it could be that Casimero is very careful because I think that the one who has the most to lose here for anything is him, from Akaho, as he had said before, he felt very underestimated, because Casimero said that he wanted to after this fight, going for Inoue, practically what he did was say that he would win easily without effort, I think he got into a little trouble.


I agree with you that Casimero has the most to lose here but i also think that he can withstand this hurdle and ultimately win this fight.

I read an article where one of Philippine's boxing analyst said that this fight is a mismatch for Casimero and he said that Akaho's style is tailor-fit for Quadro Alas for the latter to look good in the ring.

Akaho's game plan would be to box and threw those jabs but i don't think that he can sustain that all night and keep Casimero at bay because Casimero is very good at cutting the distance and if he did close the gap, the fight will be over.

if Akaho will engage that much with Casimero he's risking his fate as like you mentioned Casimero is good in cutting the distance and also Casimero is good in engaging with a toe-to-toe confrontations, he love that engagement and he will try to dominate if by chance Akaho's punches is not that heavy to endure.

Casimero will keep that close fist fight and he will try to knock down Akaho. He will take that chance if Akaho will be careless in this fight, he will be forcing that KO outcome.

That would be nice if we will see him being aggressive so Casimero's counter-punching ability will be on full display. I love this fight, it's going to happen a few days from now so let's keep updating on the major announcement, especially the betting odds, hopefully it will be available by tomorrow so we can bet early.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Akaho - December 3
Post by: ultrloa on November 30, 2022, 11:24:51 AM
Well, I also think that Casimero could be the favorite, there are some boxing forums, under which I read them almost every day, and many Latinos obviously go to Casimero, Akaho is a boxer who can offer a very different style from that of Casimero, obviously what it could be that Casimero is very careful because I think that the one who has the most to lose here for anything is him, from Akaho, as he had said before, he felt very underestimated, because Casimero said that he wanted to after this fight, going for Inoue, practically what he did was say that he would win easily without effort, I think he got into a little trouble.


I agree with you that Casimero has the most to lose here but i also think that he can withstand this hurdle and ultimately win this fight.

I read an article where one of Philippine's boxing analyst said that this fight is a mismatch for Casimero and he said that Akaho's style is tailor-fit for Quadro Alas for the latter to look good in the ring.

Akaho's game plan would be to box and threw those jabs but i don't think that he can sustain that all night and keep Casimero at bay because Casimero is very good at cutting the distance and if he did close the gap, the fight will be over.

if Akaho will engage that much with Casimero he's risking his fate as like you mentioned Casimero is good in cutting the distance and also Casimero is good in engaging with a toe-to-toe confrontations, he love that engagement and he will try to dominate if by chance Akaho's punches is not that heavy to endure.

Casimero will keep that close fist fight and he will try to knock down Akaho. He will take that chance if Akaho will be careless in this fight, he will be forcing that KO outcome.

That would be nice if we will see him being aggressive so Casimero's counter-punching ability will be on full display. I love this fight, it's going to happen a few days from now so let's keep updating on the major announcement, especially the betting odds, hopefully it will be available by tomorrow so we can bet early.

Akaho might be in that state because he also need to prove that he can defeat Casimero since many boxing fans thought that he might lose this fight so he also need a knock out win to get huge victory for his career. But knowing Casimero it will not easy for him since this guy is also hungery for a fight and this is redemption match for him knowing he's vacant for so long so maybe this is his step to get more bigger matches in future so Casimero will provably dangerous on this match.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Akaho - December 3
Post by: yazher on November 30, 2022, 11:39:39 AM
Days surely go fast and here we are a few days before a comeback fight for Casimero against Akaho this is not just a usual fight because boxing fans are expecting to see how Casimero has trained himself and remained as strong as he was before. Well! we will gonna see if he still has the ability and strength to face other strong boxers like Inoue and if he will have no problem defeating Akaho. If he cannot do the job well, then his dream to fight Inoue will never happen. He will remain on fitting some unknown boxers until he retired from boxing.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Akaho - December 3
Post by: bisdak40 on November 30, 2022, 12:46:30 PM
https://i.imgur.com/pydBkn0.png

Finally, ML odds are out already in my favorite sportsbook and this confirmed our speculation that Casimero will be the favorite as bookies listed him as an overwhelming favorite to win the fight.

Let's wait for another day as I think they will release other markets/options for this fight. Let us see if a win by Casimero via knockout would be attractive enough to bet as I'm expecting this fight won't last the scheduled ten rounds.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Akaho - December 3
Post by: stadus on November 30, 2022, 03:28:45 PM
So this happens first a few days before Pacquiao and DK Yoo's exhibition match.

I agree, I also think that Casimero is the better boxer of the two and we might be in for a treat here since it looks like Casimero is well prepared on this fight.
I'll say the same thing because I only know more about Casimero but with Akaho, looking at his stats it's impressive too. Whoever is the most disciplined in this match will win and that's for sure. I'll need to watch some fights of Akaho because his stats really impressed me.

Yes, 3 more days left 8)

I agree. There's even a saying that goes, hard work beats talent when talent doesn't work hard, and in this fight, the one who got more discipline will prevail. Both of them needed a win because their career is depending on the outcome, Casimero needed a victory so that he can continue his career especially now that he's starting again while Akaho also needed the same thing because defeating Casimero will give him more opportunities in this industry.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Akaho - December 3
Post by: Fredomago on November 30, 2022, 07:51:11 PM
So this happens first a few days before Pacquiao and DK Yoo's exhibition match.

I agree, I also think that Casimero is the better boxer of the two and we might be in for a treat here since it looks like Casimero is well prepared on this fight.
I'll say the same thing because I only know more about Casimero but with Akaho, looking at his stats it's impressive too. Whoever is the most disciplined in this match will win and that's for sure. I'll need to watch some fights of Akaho because his stats really impressed me.

Yes, 3 more days left 8)

I agree. There's even a saying that goes, hard work beats talent when talent doesn't work hard, and in this fight, the one who got more discipline will prevail. Both of them needed a win because their career is depending on the outcome, Casimero needed a victory so that he can continue his career especially now that he's starting again while Akaho also needed the same thing because defeating Casimero will give him more opportunities in this industry.

Both Akaho and Casimero need the win to boost their career, whoever wins the fight will earn good next money fight. Casimero is starting from the scratch while Akaho is already in the later part of his career. Both have the reason to win and both reasons are valid since they are really aiming for more fights to come.

Not just an ordinary one, but more on challenging the current champ or those who are in the top spot.

couple of days more and we will see the fight to take place. Odd for Casimero is not that attractive, may be better to wait for
additional odd on the day of the fight.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Akaho - December 3
Post by: LUCKMCFLY on December 01, 2022, 01:49:28 AM

Meanwhile, the WBC mandated 122 WBO/WBC champ Stephen Fulton to rematch Brandon Figueroa at 126 for the WBC interim belt. Should Fulton accepts the mandate, his 2 122 belts might become vacant which is a good opportunity for Casimero and even for Inoue. Maybe Casimero and Inoue will fight for a vacant belt right away.

This is good news for both Inoue and Casimero as they have vacant belts which they can look forward to even if they don't meet right away.

I hope this will happen, for sure Inoue will go for that belt and if Casimero will be the best challenger for him, that would make the fight perfect as their supposed fight did not happen in the bantamweight division but it will happen in a heavier division. I'm looking forward to this, let us keep updated on this news, and thanks for sharing by the way.

Guess if that is the case, it's better if Casimero will have the belt in 122 lbs before eventually facing Inoue. Because both could really be motivated to take each other heads off, Casimero again calling for Inoue and if everything went as plan, (him winning against Akaho, Fulton vacating his belt, and then Casimero getting a chance to get a title or eliminator). So lot of good opportunity for Casimero, he just need to take this 1st step of getting a win in this division.

I know that what characterizes a boxer is his self-esteem and his way of always being very positive showing confidence, I don't know if he called Inoue to gain more fame and encourage fans to ask for this fight, and although this could be very good fight, Casimero has to come out very well from the one that he has previously, it is not good sometimes to assume that he will win in any way, for me it is a very high risk that he can make a statement like that, because in a nutshell, he is telling the world that He will win this fight without having won it yet, because in the event that he loses the fight, then the challenge to Inoue will simply not make any sense, at least I see it that way.

Well, I also think that Casimero could be the favorite, there are some boxing forums, under which I read them almost every day, and many Latinos obviously go to Casimero, Akaho is a boxer who can offer a very different style from that of Casimero, obviously what it could be that Casimero is very careful because I think that the one who has the most to lose here for anything is him, from Akaho, as he had said before, he felt very underestimated, because Casimero said that he wanted to after this fight, going for Inoue, practically what he did was say that he would win easily without effort, I think he got into a little trouble.


I agree with you that Casimero has the most to lose here but i also think that he can withstand this hurdle and ultimately win this fight.

I read an article where one of Philippine's boxing analyst said that this fight is a mismatch for Casimero and he said that Akaho's style is tailor-fit for Quadro Alas for the latter to look good in the ring.

Akaho's game plan would be to box and threw those jabs but i don't think that he can sustain that all night and keep Casimero at bay because Casimero is very good at cutting the distance and if he did close the gap, the fight will be over.
Yes, in that you are absolutely right, now if Akaho had his mind to win, I think his desire increased much more, and that is detrimental to Casimero, really a boxer sometimes has to keep his mouth shut, sometimes an act like those who underestimate is a double-edged sword, sometimes it is not good, no matter how much confidence you have in your technique, things cannot be done that way, here Akho must be training much harder than before, and with all the reason, I would also do it to silence him, you cannot be challenging another boxer by hinting that the one you are going to fight has already won that fight, I think that here Akaho can give serious surprises.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Akaho - December 3
Post by: Sanitough on December 01, 2022, 10:03:24 AM
Here you go guys, the betting odds are up.

https://sportsbet.io/sports/event/boxing/international/international-matchups/casimero-john-riel-vs-akaho-ryo-6387073ec8d4e86e60ddb77a

As expected, Casimero is listed as the heavy favorites.

here are the odds.

Casimero - 1.15
Akaho - 5.20


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Akaho - December 3
Post by: Slow death on December 01, 2022, 10:16:40 AM
Well, I also think that Casimero could be the favorite, there are some boxing forums, under which I read them almost every day, and many Latinos obviously go to Casimero, Akaho is a boxer who can offer a very different style from that of Casimero, obviously what it could be that Casimero is very careful because I think that the one who has the most to lose here for anything is him, from Akaho, as he had said before, he felt very underestimated, because Casimero said that he wanted to after this fight, going for Inoue, practically what he did was say that he would win easily without effort, I think he got into a little trouble.


I agree with you that Casimero has the most to lose here but i also think that he can withstand this hurdle and ultimately win this fight.

I read an article where one of Philippine's boxing analyst said that this fight is a mismatch for Casimero and he said that Akaho's style is tailor-fit for Quadro Alas for the latter to look good in the ring.

Akaho's game plan would be to box and threw those jabs but i don't think that he can sustain that all night and keep Casimero at bay because Casimero is very good at cutting the distance and if he did close the gap, the fight will be over.

 ;D

I've also seen some commentators talking about Akaho and that his style would give him a lot of advantage against Casemiro, but if we look at what the bookmakers are analyzing and the odds they place:

Akaho = @5.20
Casimero = @1.15

honestly will anyone have the courage to bet on Akaho even seeing the odds that are being placed for this fight? bookmakers are simply saying: "casemiro wins without problems" and bookmakers rarely make mistakes when placing odds so low for the favorite, at least I have observed that there are few times when bookmakers make mistakes when placing odds so low for the favorites. who bet or will bet on Akaho? I'm particularly leaning towards Casemiro, for me Casemiro will win this fight, I'm wondering if I should bet on him, maybe include him in some parlay, but as that odd is so low I feel bad, because it won't change anything in my parlay in terms of greatly increasing the odds when adding other events

Here you go guys, the betting odds are up.

https://sportsbet.io/sports/event/boxing/international/international-matchups/casimero-john-riel-vs-akaho-ryo-6387073ec8d4e86e60ddb77a

As expected, Casimero is listed as the heavy favorites.

here are the odds.

Casimero - 1.15
Akaho - 5.20

Casimero is practically being declared the winner by the bookmakers, honestly his odds are so low that betting on him with that odd is not profitable at all, but in terms of who will win this fight I'm rooting for him to win the fight, I hope he I won't find it too difficult to win the fight, I'll wait tomorrow to see if at least the odds go up a bit to something like @1.20 or @1.25, because that would be enough for me to put it in my parlay along with other fights with that same odd. safe bet, or at least it would be an almost safe bet


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Akaho - December 3
Post by: coinerer on December 01, 2022, 10:19:15 AM
Here you go guys, the betting odds are up.

https://sportsbet.io/sports/event/boxing/international/international-matchups/casimero-john-riel-vs-akaho-ryo-6387073ec8d4e86e60ddb77a

As expected, Casimero is listed as the heavy favorites.

here are the odds.

Casimero - 1.15
Akaho - 5.20
Casimero is being paid less profit but Casimero is a potential player and he is very strong and his fighting capacity is at a very high level.  So I think Casimero will win this boxing match.  Because I've seen him play before and I'm impressed every time I see him fighting . He is a young boxer on the other hand I am a big fan of his body tattoos


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Akaho - December 3
Post by: bisdak40 on December 01, 2022, 10:37:46 AM
Casimero is being paid less profit but Casimero is a potential player and he is very strong and his fighting capacity is at a very high level.  So I think Casimero will win this boxing match.  Because I've seen him play before and I'm impressed every time I see him fighting . He is a young boxer on the other hand I am a big fan of his body tattoos

Casimero is 33 years old so in boxing this is not young but not very old as well, we can say that he is on the peak of his career at the moment while Akaho is on the twilight as he is already 36 years old and i could say that the age factor might be a factor in this fight.

Have seen a youtube video on the sparring of Akaho and Donaire just don't know when this happened but i do think this took place the last month or two. Basing on the video, i could say that Akaho is a little bit slow so he might have a problem in dealing with the body punches of Casimero, what do think guys?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tVvype4maEo&ab_channel=G-ROW


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Akaho - December 3
Post by: Botnake on December 01, 2022, 10:42:04 AM
Here you go guys, the betting odds are up.

https://sportsbet.io/sports/event/boxing/international/international-matchups/casimero-john-riel-vs-akaho-ryo-6387073ec8d4e86e60ddb77a

As expected, Casimero is listed as the heavy favorites.

here are the odds.

Casimero - 1.15
Akaho - 5.20
Casimero is being paid less profit but Casimero is a potential player and he is very strong and his fighting capacity is at a very high level.  So I think Casimero will win this boxing match.  Because I've seen him play before and I'm impressed every time I see him fighting . He is a young boxer on the other hand I am a big fan of his body tattoos

That's not a payment structure, it's a betting odds where you will choose to bet on if you are interested in risking your money for this fight. It means if you bet on Casimero, you'll only win 15% of your bet, while if you bet on Akaho, you'll win 420%.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Akaho - December 3
Post by: Sanitough on December 01, 2022, 11:18:48 AM
Here you go guys, the betting odds are up.

https://sportsbet.io/sports/event/boxing/international/international-matchups/casimero-john-riel-vs-akaho-ryo-6387073ec8d4e86e60ddb77a

As expected, Casimero is listed as the heavy favorites.

here are the odds.

Casimero - 1.15
Akaho - 5.20
Casimero is being paid less profit but Casimero is a potential player and he is very strong and his fighting capacity is at a very high level.  So I think Casimero will win this boxing match.  Because I've seen him play before and I'm impressed every time I see him fighting . He is a young boxer on the other hand I am a big fan of his body tattoos

That's not a payment structure, it's a betting odds where you will choose to bet on if you are interested in risking your money for this fight. It means if you bet on Casimero, you'll only win 15% of your bet, while if you bet on Akaho, you'll win 420%.

That's the betting odds, we only talk about profit if we win, but without winning that odds are nothing as the most important is the amount we bet or risk. Less odds means high percentage of winning, so this fight says that casimero will likely win, but the question is, would you take that odds.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Akaho - December 3
Post by: cryptomaniac_xxx on December 01, 2022, 11:21:05 AM
Here you go guys, the betting odds are up.

https://sportsbet.io/sports/event/boxing/international/international-matchups/casimero-john-riel-vs-akaho-ryo-6387073ec8d4e86e60ddb77a

As expected, Casimero is listed as the heavy favorites.

here are the odds.

Casimero - 1.15
Akaho - 5.20
Casimero is being paid less profit but Casimero is a potential player and he is very strong and his fighting capacity is at a very high level.  So I think Casimero will win this boxing match.  Because I've seen him play before and I'm impressed every time I see him fighting . He is a young boxer on the other hand I am a big fan of his body tattoos

I'm not really sure what you mean by being paid here, we don't know home much Casimero is making in this fight.

But as far as the odds goes, he is the favorite against Akaho and this is his comeback back so he better show us that he can still fight because he is a former champion in the 118 lbs. And so with that odds, everyone is very excited to see at least it has been listed already. As there could be Casimero fans here eager to see what will be the odds at least the ML and maybe other betting options will be listed later.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Akaho - December 3
Post by: btc_angela on December 01, 2022, 11:26:11 AM
https://i.imgur.com/pydBkn0.png

Finally, ML odds are out already in my favorite sportsbook and this confirmed our speculation that Casimero will be the favorite as bookies listed him as an overwhelming favorite to win the fight.

Let's wait for another day as I think they will release other markets/options for this fight. Let us see if a win by Casimero via knockout would be attractive enough to bet as I'm expecting this fight won't last the scheduled ten rounds.

Thanks, I have to recheck it again to see if there is some changes or other betting options is already present, unfortunately, it's not.

The ML is not that attractive for Casimero though, unless you really pour in thousands and thousands of dollar just to make a decent money. But for the majority out here who is just a average bettor but a fan of Casimero, we should wait and have patience till sports bookies listed more options for us.

I'm waiting for the KO odds, that will be interesting to see what crypto bookies will give us.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Akaho - December 3
Post by: coinerer on December 01, 2022, 11:27:10 AM
Here you go guys, the betting odds are up.

https://sportsbet.io/sports/event/boxing/international/international-matchups/casimero-john-riel-vs-akaho-ryo-6387073ec8d4e86e60ddb77a

As expected, Casimero is listed as the heavy favorites.

here are the odds.

Casimero - 1.15
Akaho - 5.20
Casimero is being paid less profit but Casimero is a potential player and he is very strong and his fighting capacity is at a very high level.  So I think Casimero will win this boxing match.  Because I've seen him play before and I'm impressed every time I see him fighting . He is a young boxer on the other hand I am a big fan of his body tattoos

That's not a payment structure, it's a betting odds where you will choose to bet on if you are interested in risking your money for this fight. It means if you bet on Casimero, you'll only win 15% of your bet, while if you bet on Akaho, you'll win 420%.
Akaho might get 420% profit but his chances of winning are very low so betting on him is very risky.  Potential bets are better for lower profits than losing real money by betting on huge profits. So I think it makes sense to bet on Casimero in that case . I wouldn't advise anyone to bet on Casimero.  Because each person's thoughts and preferences may be different, it is natural that everyone will bet based on their own opinion and preferences


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Akaho - December 3
Post by: ultrloa on December 01, 2022, 11:56:56 AM
Here you go guys, the betting odds are up.

https://sportsbet.io/sports/event/boxing/international/international-matchups/casimero-john-riel-vs-akaho-ryo-6387073ec8d4e86e60ddb77a

As expected, Casimero is listed as the heavy favorites.

here are the odds.

Casimero - 1.15
Akaho - 5.20
Casimero is being paid less profit but Casimero is a potential player and he is very strong and his fighting capacity is at a very high level.  So I think Casimero will win this boxing match.  Because I've seen him play before and I'm impressed every time I see him fighting . He is a young boxer on the other hand I am a big fan of his body tattoos

That's not a payment structure, it's a betting odds where you will choose to bet on if you are interested in risking your money for this fight. It means if you bet on Casimero, you'll only win 15% of your bet, while if you bet on Akaho, you'll win 420%.

That's the betting odds, we only talk about profit if we win, but without winning that odds are nothing as the most important is the amount we bet or risk. Less odds means high percentage of winning, so this fight says that casimero will likely win, but the question is, would you take that odds.

Getting that will not guarantee that Casimero will win since its just many people believe in him but there are turn of tables and might we can see Akaho give a good fight then defeat Casimero so those people who risk to bet might get lucky if Akaho will take the win. But I doubt it will happen knowing how Casimero plays in boxing ring for sure eventhough we see the odds like that still will pla e a bet for Casimero side.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Akaho - December 3
Post by: coinerer on December 01, 2022, 12:06:07 PM
Here you go guys, the betting odds are up.

https://sportsbet.io/sports/event/boxing/international/international-matchups/casimero-john-riel-vs-akaho-ryo-6387073ec8d4e86e60ddb77a

As expected, Casimero is listed as the heavy favorites.

here are the odds.

Casimero - 1.15
Akaho - 5.20
Casimero is being paid less profit but Casimero is a potential player and he is very strong and his fighting capacity is at a very high level.  So I think Casimero will win this boxing match.  Because I've seen him play before and I'm impressed every time I see him fighting . He is a young boxer on the other hand I am a big fan of his body tattoos

That's not a payment structure, it's a betting odds where you will choose to bet on if you are interested in risking your money for this fight. It means if you bet on Casimero, you'll only win 15% of your bet, while if you bet on Akaho, you'll win 420%.

That's the betting odds, we only talk about profit if we win, but without winning that odds are nothing as the most important is the amount we bet or risk. Less odds means high percentage of winning, so this fight says that casimero will likely win, but the question is, would you take that odds.

Getting that will not guarantee that Casimero will win since its just many people believe in him but there are turn of tables and might we can see Akaho give a good fight then defeat Casimero so those people who risk to bet might get lucky if Akaho will take the win. But I doubt it will happen knowing how Casimero plays in boxing ring for sure eventhough we see the odds like that still will pla e a bet for Casimero side.
it is true that no team can be guaranteed to win a particular game.  Because the two sides are almost equally strong in the game . Maybe one of the two sides is a bit stronger.  Or winning more in the previous game is a prediction for them to win.  But no guarantee can ever be given to anyone . So I just made a prediction based on Casimero previous fighting


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Akaho - December 3
Post by: Yamifoud on December 01, 2022, 12:10:54 PM
Here you go guys, the betting odds are up.

https://sportsbet.io/sports/event/boxing/international/international-matchups/casimero-john-riel-vs-akaho-ryo-6387073ec8d4e86e60ddb77a

As expected, Casimero is listed as the heavy favorites.

here are the odds.

Casimero - 1.15
Akaho - 5.20
Casimero is being paid less profit but Casimero is a potential player and he is very strong and his fighting capacity is at a very high level.  So I think Casimero will win this boxing match.  Because I've seen him play before and I'm impressed every time I see him fighting . He is a young boxer on the other hand I am a big fan of his body tattoos

That's not a payment structure, it's a betting odds where you will choose to bet on if you are interested in risking your money for this fight. It means if you bet on Casimero, you'll only win 15% of your bet, while if you bet on Akaho, you'll win 420%.
Akaho might get 420% profit but his chances of winning are very low so betting on him is very risky.  Potential bets are better for lower profits than losing real money by betting on huge profits. So I think it makes sense to bet on Casimero in that case . I wouldn't advise anyone to bet on Casimero.  Because each person's thoughts and preferences may be different, it is natural that everyone will bet based on their own opinion and preferences

It's actually not him who will get a profit, but the bettors in case they'll win, and I'm not sure if boxers are allowed to bet on themselves during a fight, I think that's an issue as they can manipulate the fight for them to win, just like losing intentionally to win their bets.

by the way, betting poll looks in favor of Casimero as only 1 voted for Akaho.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Akaho - December 3
Post by: mirakal on December 01, 2022, 03:19:33 PM
Here you go guys, the betting odds are up.

https://sportsbet.io/sports/event/boxing/international/international-matchups/casimero-john-riel-vs-akaho-ryo-6387073ec8d4e86e60ddb77a

As expected, Casimero is listed as the heavy favorites.

here are the odds.

Casimero - 1.15
Akaho - 5.20
Casimero is being paid less profit but Casimero is a potential player and he is very strong and his fighting capacity is at a very high level.  So I think Casimero will win this boxing match.  Because I've seen him play before and I'm impressed every time I see him fighting . He is a young boxer on the other hand I am a big fan of his body tattoos

That's not a payment structure, it's a betting odds where you will choose to bet on if you are interested in risking your money for this fight. It means if you bet on Casimero, you'll only win 15% of your bet, while if you bet on Akaho, you'll win 420%.
Akaho might get 420% profit but his chances of winning are very low so betting on him is very risky.  Potential bets are better for lower profits than losing real money by betting on huge profits. So I think it makes sense to bet on Casimero in that case . I wouldn't advise anyone to bet on Casimero.  Because each person's thoughts and preferences may be different, it is natural that everyone will bet based on their own opinion and preferences

It's actually not him who will get a profit, but the bettors in case they'll win, and I'm not sure if boxers are allowed to bet on themselves during a fight, I think that's an issue as they can manipulate the fight for them to win, just like losing intentionally to win their bets.

by the way, betting poll looks in favor of Casimero as only 1 voted for Akaho.

Actually, I had the same curiosity whether boxers or fighters are allowed to bet on their own fights. I found out that they are entirely allowed and it is legal to bet on themselves, what's not legal is if they will bet against themselves which is quite confusing why would they do that. Also, if they will decide to gamble, they are only allowed to bet the whole outcome and not specifically like by a way of KO or UD. Seems reasonable enough to put these guidelines because they are the only ones who are controlling the fight.

Back to the fight, few days more. For those risky gamblers who wanted juicy profits, this is your chance to bet on Akaho, although his chances are not that great.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Akaho - December 3
Post by: stadus on December 01, 2022, 06:20:27 PM
So this happens first a few days before Pacquiao and DK Yoo's exhibition match.

I agree, I also think that Casimero is the better boxer of the two and we might be in for a treat here since it looks like Casimero is well prepared on this fight.
I'll say the same thing because I only know more about Casimero but with Akaho, looking at his stats it's impressive too. Whoever is the most disciplined in this match will win and that's for sure. I'll need to watch some fights of Akaho because his stats really impressed me.

Yes, 3 more days left 8)

I agree. There's even a saying that goes, hard work beats talent when talent doesn't work hard, and in this fight, the one who got more discipline will prevail. Both of them needed a win because their career is depending on the outcome, Casimero needed a victory so that he can continue his career especially now that he's starting again while Akaho also needed the same thing because defeating Casimero will give him more opportunities in this industry.

Both Akaho and Casimero need the win to boost their career, whoever wins the fight will earn good next money fight. Casimero is starting from the scratch while Akaho is already in the later part of his career. Both have the reason to win and both reasons are valid since they are really aiming for more fights to come.

Not just an ordinary one, but more on challenging the current champ or those who are in the top spot.

couple of days more and we will see the fight to take place. Odd for Casimero is not that attractive, may be better to wait for
additional odd on the day of the fight.

Exactly, they both needed to win this fight because they needed more exposures to continue their careers but Casimero needed this more than Akaho because the latter can always go back on his position locally while Casimero doesn't have the same situation if in case he will be defeated here in his debut. Nevertheless, we can expect that both boxers will give everything they got just to increase their chances.

Less than 48 hours before the fight, betting options are not yet available. I hope the bookies will list more options before the fight.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Akaho - December 3
Post by: Fredomago on December 01, 2022, 08:00:49 PM
So this happens first a few days before Pacquiao and DK Yoo's exhibition match.

I agree, I also think that Casimero is the better boxer of the two and we might be in for a treat here since it looks like Casimero is well prepared on this fight.
I'll say the same thing because I only know more about Casimero but with Akaho, looking at his stats it's impressive too. Whoever is the most disciplined in this match will win and that's for sure. I'll need to watch some fights of Akaho because his stats really impressed me.

Yes, 3 more days left 8)

I agree. There's even a saying that goes, hard work beats talent when talent doesn't work hard, and in this fight, the one who got more discipline will prevail. Both of them needed a win because their career is depending on the outcome, Casimero needed a victory so that he can continue his career especially now that he's starting again while Akaho also needed the same thing because defeating Casimero will give him more opportunities in this industry.

Both Akaho and Casimero need the win to boost their career, whoever wins the fight will earn good next money fight. Casimero is starting from the scratch while Akaho is already in the later part of his career. Both have the reason to win and both reasons are valid since they are really aiming for more fights to come.

Not just an ordinary one, but more on challenging the current champ or those who are in the top spot.

couple of days more and we will see the fight to take place. Odd for Casimero is not that attractive, may be better to wait for
additional odd on the day of the fight.

Exactly, they both needed to win this fight because they needed more exposures to continue their careers but Casimero needed this more than Akaho because the latter can always go back on his position locally while Casimero doesn't have the same situation if in case he will be defeated here in his debut. Nevertheless, we can expect that both boxers will give everything they got just to increase their chances.

Less than 48 hours before the fight, betting options are not yet available. I hope the bookies will list more options before the fight.

Yes, almost the fight night and we will see both fighters sharing the same ring and will prove something, let see if how Casimero will attack or execute his plan to make a good hype with his career. This new division will be more challenging if Casimero will start chasing the title and if possible Inoue will also move to this division and start chasing for another belt.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Akaho - December 3
Post by: BitcoinPanther on December 01, 2022, 08:01:08 PM
Actually, I had the same curiosity whether boxers or fighters are allowed to bet on their own fights. I found out that they are entirely allowed and it is legal to bet on themselves, what's not legal is if they will bet against themselves which is quite confusing why would they do that. Also, if they will decide to gamble, they are only allowed to bet the whole outcome and not specifically like by a way of KO or UD. Seems reasonable enough to put these guidelines because they are the only ones who are controlling the fight.

Back to the fight, few days more. For those risky gamblers who wanted juicy profits, this is your chance to bet on Akaho, although his chances are not that great.


True!  Boxers are allowed to bet for themselves but they are only allowed to make a straight bet for themselves meaning they are not allowed to bet whether they can KO or TKO the opponent and the time when they can beat the opponent[1].

Furthermore here are some list of Boxers that bet for themselves

Quote
Shane Mosley

Ahead of his fight against Canelo Alvarez in 2012, Shane Mosley placed a $1 million wager on himself to win despite only earning $600K for the fight. It was quite the gamble, and as we know, it didn’t pay off. Mosley lost by unanimous decision.

Keith Thurman

More recently, welterweight contender Keith Thurman bet on a first- or second-round knockout of retired legend Manny Pacquiao before their 2019 bout. He fell on the wrong side of a split decision. Two years earlier, he bet on himself to knock out Danny Garcia in the first round. He failed to do so, ultimately winning by split decision.

Mikey Garcia

In early August, fellow welterweight Mikey Garcia told reporters that he would bet $2 million on himself to win if he ever got the opportunity to fight Pacquiao. He has long sought this contest. Unfortunately for him, Pacquiao announced his retirement from boxing on September 29 following a unanimous decision loss at the hands of Yordenis Ugas eight days earlier.

Some fighters enjoy better luck with their bets.

Tyson Fury

Prior to his massive title fight against Wladimir Klitschko, current WBC heavyweight champion Tyson Fury made a £200,000 bet on himself to win. He claimed a unanimous decision victory. In doing so, he not only took home the WBA, WBO, and IBF belts as well as the title of lineal champion, but he also doubled his earnings on the night. That is quite the haul.

Mayweather

While he denies it, Mayweather is rumored to have bet on himself a number of times too. Considering his name recognition and sparkling 50-0-0 record, those wagers would have raked in a ton of dough.

So it is very possible for Akaho to bet for himself  because it is allowed by the sports book, what is not allowed is picking the method or time of victory[1].
Quote
Permitting such wagers would amount to permitting fight manipulation and harm the reputation of both boxing and legal sports betting.





[1] https://shortboxing.com/why-boxers-can-bet-on-themselves-but-not-against-themselves/#:~:text=Fighters%20can%20only%20place%20straight,boxing%20and%20legal%20sports%20betting.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Akaho - December 3
Post by: ultrloa on December 01, 2022, 10:23:08 PM
Here you go guys, the betting odds are up.

https://sportsbet.io/sports/event/boxing/international/international-matchups/casimero-john-riel-vs-akaho-ryo-6387073ec8d4e86e60ddb77a

As expected, Casimero is listed as the heavy favorites.

here are the odds.

Casimero - 1.15
Akaho - 5.20
Casimero is being paid less profit but Casimero is a potential player and he is very strong and his fighting capacity is at a very high level.  So I think Casimero will win this boxing match.  Because I've seen him play before and I'm impressed every time I see him fighting . He is a young boxer on the other hand I am a big fan of his body tattoos

That's not a payment structure, it's a betting odds where you will choose to bet on if you are interested in risking your money for this fight. It means if you bet on Casimero, you'll only win 15% of your bet, while if you bet on Akaho, you'll win 420%.

That's the betting odds, we only talk about profit if we win, but without winning that odds are nothing as the most important is the amount we bet or risk. Less odds means high percentage of winning, so this fight says that casimero will likely win, but the question is, would you take that odds.

Getting that will not guarantee that Casimero will win since its just many people believe in him but there are turn of tables and might we can see Akaho give a good fight then defeat Casimero so those people who risk to bet might get lucky if Akaho will take the win. But I doubt it will happen knowing how Casimero plays in boxing ring for sure eventhough we see the odds like that still will pla e a bet for Casimero side.
it is true that no team can be guaranteed to win a particular game.  Because the two sides are almost equally strong in the game . Maybe one of the two sides is a bit stronger.  Or winning more in the previous game is a prediction for them to win.  But no guarantee can ever be given to anyone . So I just made a prediction based on Casimero previous fighting

Many predict Casimero would win because they already seen how he fight and its undeniable that he's really strong and have swag on the ring that's why he really got the attention of the people. Akaho is underdog here since many people doesn't know him but that doesn't mean that he will lose automatically since for sure he have strength to defeat Casimero on that fight because he also a trained fighter and for sure he see a lot of matches of his opponent to prepare very well on their fight night.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Akaho - December 3
Post by: Baofeng on December 01, 2022, 10:33:27 PM
Here is the press conference,

It's very different obviously as what we have seen when the fight is held in the US

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CZqqZ8sKnEY

But nevertheless, we are happy to finally see Casimero again, specially for this Filipino fans and backers on this fight.

And hopefully he will win so that we can still have a good chance for Inoue and Casimero to fight in the future, because that's what we are all waiting for in 118 lbs. So maybe the clash could happen in the super bantamweight.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Akaho - December 3
Post by: Fatunad on December 01, 2022, 11:05:29 PM

Many predict Casimero would win because they already seen how he fight and its undeniable that he's really strong and have swag on the ring that's why he really got the attention of the people. Akaho is underdog here since many people doesn't know him but that doesn't mean that he will lose automatically since for sure he have strength to defeat Casimero on that fight because he also a trained fighter and for sure he see a lot of matches of his opponent to prepare very well on their fight night.
Cant really ignore out that people do make out conclusions even if the fight is just still approaching on which i cant really blame them out considering on how we do see on how Casimero fight.
Just on the thing you've been saying that there's always a chance of upset even though Casimero is highly favorite but to mind off that Akaho wont really be on that ranking for nothing.
Climbing up the ladder would neither be simple or not but Casimero shouldnt really be that too confident and be still be careful on facing up his opponent on this upcoming
fight.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Akaho - December 3
Post by: Kelvinid on December 02, 2022, 05:20:34 AM

Many predict Casimero would win because they already seen how he fight and its undeniable that he's really strong and have swag on the ring that's why he really got the attention of the people. Akaho is underdog here since many people doesn't know him but that doesn't mean that he will lose automatically since for sure he have strength to defeat Casimero on that fight because he also a trained fighter and for sure he see a lot of matches of his opponent to prepare very well on their fight night.
Cant really ignore out that people do make out conclusions even if the fight is just still approaching on which i cant really blame them out considering on how we do see on how Casimero fight.
Just on the thing you've been saying that there's always a chance of upset even though Casimero is highly favorite but to mind off that Akaho wont really be on that ranking for nothing.
Climbing up the ladder would neither be simple or not but Casimero shouldnt really be that too confident and be still be careful on facing up his opponent on this upcoming
fight.

Casimero always shows his confidence outside and inside the ring, and that's why he is loved by the fans because he is not only pure talk but also more on action in the ring. As a fan of Casimero, I'm also confident that he will win and I believe that he will not take it for granted.

And wow, this fight will be 2 days from now, what a relief.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Akaho - December 3
Post by: rodskee on December 02, 2022, 05:45:49 AM

Many predict Casimero would win because they already seen how he fight and its undeniable that he's really strong and have swag on the ring that's why he really got the attention of the people. Akaho is underdog here since many people doesn't know him but that doesn't mean that he will lose automatically since for sure he have strength to defeat Casimero on that fight because he also a trained fighter and for sure he see a lot of matches of his opponent to prepare very well on their fight night.
Cant really ignore out that people do make out conclusions even if the fight is just still approaching on which i cant really blame them out considering on how we do see on how Casimero fight.
Just on the thing you've been saying that there's always a chance of upset even though Casimero is highly favorite but to mind off that Akaho wont really be on that ranking for nothing.
Climbing up the ladder would neither be simple or not but Casimero shouldnt really be that too confident and be still be careful on facing up his opponent on this upcoming
fight.
all  these boxers has their one punch knockout ability though some has harder punches but everyone is trained for that so chances of winning against Casimero is still there .
but this Filipino boxer had been waiting for this opportunity and will surely do His best to win in this fight.
so lest wait and see as we only have a day to watch the action .


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Akaho - December 3
Post by: bisdak40 on December 02, 2022, 11:02:14 AM
So, we have a fight as both fighters make the super bantamweight limit with no problem at all.

Here is the official weight as per my favorite boxing analyst/vlogger  ;D:

Casimero 55 kg/121.25 lbs
Akaho 55.2 kg/121.69 lbs

With this, i could say that Casimero's seriousness in the training pays off as he got no problem with the weight and the chance for him to win by KO increases at least with my speculation but the odds for him to win by KO is not so good for us ordinary bettors. At the moment it is @1.44 while @4.40 for a decision win.

 


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Akaho - December 3
Post by: carlisle1 on December 02, 2022, 11:04:53 AM

Many predict Casimero would win because they already seen how he fight and its undeniable that he's really strong and have swag on the ring that's why he really got the attention of the people. Akaho is underdog here since many people doesn't know him but that doesn't mean that he will lose automatically since for sure he have strength to defeat Casimero on that fight because he also a trained fighter and for sure he see a lot of matches of his opponent to prepare very well on their fight night.
Cant really ignore out that people do make out conclusions even if the fight is just still approaching on which i cant really blame them out considering on how we do see on how Casimero fight.
Just on the thing you've been saying that there's always a chance of upset even though Casimero is highly favorite but to mind off that Akaho wont really be on that ranking for nothing.
Climbing up the ladder would neither be simple or not but Casimero shouldnt really be that too confident and be still be careful on facing up his opponent on this upcoming
fight.

Casimero always shows his confidence outside and inside the ring, and that's why he is loved by the fans because he is not only pure talk but also more on action in the ring. As a fan of Casimero, I'm also confident that he will win and I believe that he will not take it for granted.

And wow, this fight will be 2 days from now, what a relief.


It added to his popularity during his title days; he keeps doing the talk then proves it inside the ring.
it's just a mistake being stripped because he keeps trash talking Inoue, and it's almost his chance to face him inside the ring.

Only if he manages that weight and makes that title defense from Butler, it should be a fight fans are waiting seeing Casimero and
Inoue inside the ring.

Maybe not in that division, but the chance is still open. If Casimero will make his way into this new division, then Inoue decided to
move up, we will see if fate with destine them two to fight!


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Akaho - December 3
Post by: Sanitough on December 02, 2022, 01:07:05 PM
So, we have a fight as both fighters make the super bantamweight limit with no problem at all.

Here is the official weight as per my favorite boxing analyst/vlogger  ;D:

Casimero 55 kg/121.25 lbs
Akaho 55.2 kg/121.69 lbs

With this, i could say that Casimero's seriousness in the training pays off as he got no problem with the weight and the chance for him to win by KO increases at least with my speculation but the odds for him to win by KO is not so good for us ordinary bettors. At the moment it is @1.44 while @4.40 for a decision win.

 

I understand why the odds for KO is lower because it's expected that Casimero will try to have an impressive win. No problem with his weight, it means he is training hard and complying the requirement, at this weight requirement, I think he will have no problem and eventually he will fight the champion and be a champion again.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Akaho - December 3
Post by: Fredomago on December 02, 2022, 04:30:30 PM
So, we have a fight as both fighters make the super bantamweight limit with no problem at all.

Here is the official weight as per my favorite boxing analyst/vlogger  ;D:

Casimero 55 kg/121.25 lbs
Akaho 55.2 kg/121.69 lbs

With this, i could say that Casimero's seriousness in the training pays off as he got no problem with the weight and the chance for him to win by KO increases at least with my speculation but the odds for him to win by KO is not so good for us ordinary bettors. At the moment it is @1.44 while @4.40 for a decision win.

 

I understand why the odds for KO is lower because it's expected that Casimero will try to have an impressive win. No problem with his weight, it means he is training hard and complying the requirement, at this weight requirement, I think he will have no problem and eventually he will fight the champion and be a champion again.

Most of the fans and boxing analyst will look on him since it will be a debut for him in this new division and he will be aiming for that KO win to make it more impressive, but I'm also one of those who might not see the odd as attractive, @ 1.44 for KO win, for sure some will take this and other will try the different one which will gave them more decent profits if luck permits them and Akaho will resist losing the fight with KO.

Not very far to happen as well, Akaho is also aiming for a big win to continue his journey and if ever he will again disappoint another pinoy fighter, it will be added to his collections, and maybe social media will hype his name and he will gain interest for a much better money fight.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Akaho - December 3
Post by: mirakal on December 02, 2022, 04:50:21 PM
Actually, I had the same curiosity whether boxers or fighters are allowed to bet on their own fights. I found out that they are entirely allowed and it is legal to bet on themselves, what's not legal is if they will bet against themselves which is quite confusing why would they do that. Also, if they will decide to gamble, they are only allowed to bet the whole outcome and not specifically like by a way of KO or UD. Seems reasonable enough to put these guidelines because they are the only ones who are controlling the fight.

Back to the fight, few days more. For those risky gamblers who wanted juicy profits, this is your chance to bet on Akaho, although his chances are not that great.


True!  Boxers are allowed to bet for themselves but they are only allowed to make a straight bet for themselves meaning they are not allowed to bet whether they can KO or TKO the opponent and the time when they can beat the opponent[1].

Furthermore here are some list of Boxers that bet for themselves

Quote
Shane Mosley

Ahead of his fight against Canelo Alvarez in 2012, Shane Mosley placed a $1 million wager on himself to win despite only earning $600K for the fight. It was quite the gamble, and as we know, it didn’t pay off. Mosley lost by unanimous decision.

Keith Thurman

More recently, welterweight contender Keith Thurman bet on a first- or second-round knockout of retired legend Manny Pacquiao before their 2019 bout. He fell on the wrong side of a split decision. Two years earlier, he bet on himself to knock out Danny Garcia in the first round. He failed to do so, ultimately winning by split decision.

Mikey Garcia

In early August, fellow welterweight Mikey Garcia told reporters that he would bet $2 million on himself to win if he ever got the opportunity to fight Pacquiao. He has long sought this contest. Unfortunately for him, Pacquiao announced his retirement from boxing on September 29 following a unanimous decision loss at the hands of Yordenis Ugas eight days earlier.

Some fighters enjoy better luck with their bets.

Tyson Fury

Prior to his massive title fight against Wladimir Klitschko, current WBC heavyweight champion Tyson Fury made a £200,000 bet on himself to win. He claimed a unanimous decision victory. In doing so, he not only took home the WBA, WBO, and IBF belts as well as the title of lineal champion, but he also doubled his earnings on the night. That is quite the haul.

Mayweather

While he denies it, Mayweather is rumored to have bet on himself a number of times too. Considering his name recognition and sparkling 50-0-0 record, those wagers would have raked in a ton of dough.

So it is very possible for Akaho to bet for himself  because it is allowed by the sports book, what is not allowed is picking the method or time of victory[1].
Quote
Permitting such wagers would amount to permitting fight manipulation and harm the reputation of both boxing and legal sports betting.





[1] https://shortboxing.com/why-boxers-can-bet-on-themselves-but-not-against-themselves/#:~:text=Fighters%20can%20only%20place%20straight,boxing%20and%20legal%20sports%20betting.

Thanks for providing more information regarding these boxers who bet on their fights, but Mayweather tho, I don't really believe him that he didn't bet on his fights or at least one of his 50 professional fights. He's just keeping his image so shiny when in fact nobody would believe that ;D

It was rumored that he bet on himself on his last professional fight versus McGregor and I somehow believe that the accusations were true because Mayweather could've finished the fight much earlier but he didn't and he just let McGregor do all the actions for the first 5 rounds before Mayweather commenced his plan. Many speculated that he wagered that the fight will last 7-10 rounds because that's really what happened.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Akaho - December 3
Post by: stadus on December 02, 2022, 06:58:45 PM
So this happens first a few days before Pacquiao and DK Yoo's exhibition match.

I agree, I also think that Casimero is the better boxer of the two and we might be in for a treat here since it looks like Casimero is well prepared on this fight.
I'll say the same thing because I only know more about Casimero but with Akaho, looking at his stats it's impressive too. Whoever is the most disciplined in this match will win and that's for sure. I'll need to watch some fights of Akaho because his stats really impressed me.

Yes, 3 more days left 8)

I agree. There's even a saying that goes, hard work beats talent when talent doesn't work hard, and in this fight, the one who got more discipline will prevail. Both of them needed a win because their career is depending on the outcome, Casimero needed a victory so that he can continue his career especially now that he's starting again while Akaho also needed the same thing because defeating Casimero will give him more opportunities in this industry.

Both Akaho and Casimero need the win to boost their career, whoever wins the fight will earn good next money fight. Casimero is starting from the scratch while Akaho is already in the later part of his career. Both have the reason to win and both reasons are valid since they are really aiming for more fights to come.

Not just an ordinary one, but more on challenging the current champ or those who are in the top spot.

couple of days more and we will see the fight to take place. Odd for Casimero is not that attractive, may be better to wait for
additional odd on the day of the fight.

Exactly, they both needed to win this fight because they needed more exposures to continue their careers but Casimero needed this more than Akaho because the latter can always go back on his position locally while Casimero doesn't have the same situation if in case he will be defeated here in his debut. Nevertheless, we can expect that both boxers will give everything they got just to increase their chances.

Less than 48 hours before the fight, betting options are not yet available. I hope the bookies will list more options before the fight.

Yes, almost the fight night and we will see both fighters sharing the same ring and will prove something, let see if how Casimero will attack or execute his plan to make a good hype with his career. This new division will be more challenging if Casimero will start chasing the title and if possible Inoue will also move to this division and start chasing for another belt.

Just like Inoue, Casimero should also take a much easier path for the time being while he's still going through the ranks and not to be hasty to have a fight against the champions. He should get used of the weight first to adjust well and so that he still have a lot of room to improve before he chase some titles. Moreover, if he will go a much safety path just like what I've said, then his chances to face Inoue is big when the latter make his climb because they will both meet at the ladder towards the top dogs.

Just few hours more mate and we can already witness this fight, and see if Casimero really belong to this division.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Akaho - December 3
Post by: Fatunad on December 02, 2022, 07:59:20 PM

Many predict Casimero would win because they already seen how he fight and its undeniable that he's really strong and have swag on the ring that's why he really got the attention of the people. Akaho is underdog here since many people doesn't know him but that doesn't mean that he will lose automatically since for sure he have strength to defeat Casimero on that fight because he also a trained fighter and for sure he see a lot of matches of his opponent to prepare very well on their fight night.
Cant really ignore out that people do make out conclusions even if the fight is just still approaching on which i cant really blame them out considering on how we do see on how Casimero fight.
Just on the thing you've been saying that there's always a chance of upset even though Casimero is highly favorite but to mind off that Akaho wont really be on that ranking for nothing.
Climbing up the ladder would neither be simple or not but Casimero shouldnt really be that too confident and be still be careful on facing up his opponent on this upcoming
fight.

Casimero always shows his confidence outside and inside the ring, and that's why he is loved by the fans because he is not only pure talk but also more on action in the ring. As a fan of Casimero, I'm also confident that he will win and I believe that he will not take it for granted.

And wow, this fight will be 2 days from now, what a relief.


It added to his popularity during his title days; he keeps doing the talk then proves it inside the ring.
it's just a mistake being stripped because he keeps trash talking Inoue, and it's almost his chance to face him inside the ring.

Only if he manages that weight and makes that title defense from Butler, it should be a fight fans are waiting seeing Casimero and
Inoue inside the ring.

Maybe not in that division, but the chance is still open. If Casimero will make his way into this new division, then Inoue decided to
move up, we will see if fate with destine them two to fight!
If he's really eager to fight Inoue then he should strive and do his best n climbing up into the ladder and wont really be making a huge gap in terms of ranking in between both.
Yes, we've seen those dramas and events on why Casimero didnt able to fight and i could say that it is really a careless thing for their team thats had been done.
If they had just able to comply  it out or able to reach out on whats asked before then he might able to face up Inoue. Majority of people are really looking
forward for Casimero on beating up the monster but in reality this isnt something very easy that someone could pull it off.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Akaho - December 3
Post by: Kemarit on December 02, 2022, 08:04:08 PM

Many predict Casimero would win because they already seen how he fight and its undeniable that he's really strong and have swag on the ring that's why he really got the attention of the people. Akaho is underdog here since many people doesn't know him but that doesn't mean that he will lose automatically since for sure he have strength to defeat Casimero on that fight because he also a trained fighter and for sure he see a lot of matches of his opponent to prepare very well on their fight night.
Cant really ignore out that people do make out conclusions even if the fight is just still approaching on which i cant really blame them out considering on how we do see on how Casimero fight.
Just on the thing you've been saying that there's always a chance of upset even though Casimero is highly favorite but to mind off that Akaho wont really be on that ranking for nothing.
Climbing up the ladder would neither be simple or not but Casimero shouldnt really be that too confident and be still be careful on facing up his opponent on this upcoming
fight.

Casimero always shows his confidence outside and inside the ring, and that's why he is loved by the fans because he is not only pure talk but also more on action in the ring. As a fan of Casimero, I'm also confident that he will win and I believe that he will not take it for granted.

And wow, this fight will be 2 days from now, what a relief.


It added to his popularity during his title days; he keeps doing the talk then proves it inside the ring.
it's just a mistake being stripped because he keeps trash talking Inoue, and it's almost his chance to face him inside the ring.

Only if he manages that weight and makes that title defense from Butler, it should be a fight fans are waiting seeing Casimero and
Inoue inside the ring.

Maybe not in that division, but the chance is still open. If Casimero will make his way into this new division, then Inoue decided to
move up, we will see if fate with destine them two to fight!
If he's really eager to fight Inoue then he should strive and do his best n climbing up into the ladder and wont really be making a huge gap in terms of ranking in between both.
Yes, we've seen those dramas and events on why Casimero didnt able to fight and i could say that it is really a careless thing for their team thats had been done.
If they had just able to comply  it out or able to reach out on whats asked before then he might able to face up Inoue. Majority of people are really looking
forward for Casimero on beating up the monster but in reality this isnt something very easy that someone could pull it off.

I do agree it won't be as easy as it sound, but it seems that he is the closest that we might see someone upset Inoue, I mean Nonito try to do it, but he failed, but then everyone turns on Casimero to be the next one to try, unfortunately it didn't happen to the best weight of both of this two which is 118 lbs because we all know careless Casimero did during his reign in that division,  he missed weight and then uses sauna to shed some more weight in his second chance against Butler But that is in the past already, now he is in 122 lb and soon Inoue will also follow, and so the chance of them seeing again is there or at least for boxing fans, the hope is there.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Akaho - December 3
Post by: Fatunad on December 02, 2022, 09:59:26 PM

I do agree it won't be as easy as it sound, but it seems that he is the closest that we might see someone upset Inoue, I mean Nonito try to do it, but he failed, but then everyone turns on Casimero to be the next one to try, unfortunately it didn't happen to the best weight of both of this two which is 118 lbs because we all know careless Casimero did during his reign in that division,  he missed weight and then uses sauna to shed some more weight in his second chance against Butler But that is in the past already, now he is in 122 lb and soon Inoue will also follow, and so the chance of them seeing again is there or at least for boxing fans, the hope is there.
Well, as long these fellas do make their best and able to reach out those acquire weights plus those winning then there would really be that probability but for now lets just set aside
of these things as these arent really still that fixed or arranged up.  ;D
For now, both fighters do need to settle out their upcoming fights and really need up to win and the rest would really be entirely be depending
on how fights should be arranged or in next in line.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Akaho - December 3
Post by: harizen on December 02, 2022, 10:07:09 PM
So, we have a fight as both fighters make the super bantamweight limit with no problem at all.

Here is the official weight as per my favorite boxing analyst/vlogger  ;D:

Casimero 55 kg/121.25 lbs
Akaho 55.2 kg/121.69 lbs

With this, i could say that Casimero's seriousness in the training pays off as he got no problem with the weight and the chance for him to win by KO increases at least with my speculation but the odds for him to win by KO is not so good for us ordinary bettors. At the moment it is @1.44 while @4.40 for a decision win.

Nice for Casimero. He really achieved that required catchweight and it seems no problem at all. Around 12 1lbs is now really considered as his comfort weight class even without affecting his usual lifestyle. Never heard any news that he struggles to reach that weight during his training.

I do happy that my speculation is wrong that this fight might not be possibly listed because this fight is not that big to consider. Good thing that it is still listed by some crypto-bookies and what everyone else is waiting for?

I will give a 90% chance that Casimero will win this fight although choosing what method he will win is a tough choice for us bettors.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Akaho - December 3
Post by: AmoreJaz on December 02, 2022, 10:12:04 PM
So, we have a fight as both fighters make the super bantamweight limit with no problem at all.

Here is the official weight as per my favorite boxing analyst/vlogger  ;D:

Casimero 55 kg/121.25 lbs
Akaho 55.2 kg/121.69 lbs

With this, i could say that Casimero's seriousness in the training pays off as he got no problem with the weight and the chance for him to win by KO increases at least with my speculation but the odds for him to win by KO is not so good for us ordinary bettors. At the moment it is @1.44 while @4.40 for a decision win.

Nice for Casimero. He really achieved that required catchweight and it seems no problem at all. Around 12 1lbs is now really considered as his comfort weight class even without affecting his usual lifestyle. Never heard any news that he struggles to reach that weight during his training.

I do happy that my speculation is wrong that this fight might not be possibly listed because this fight is not that big to consider. Good thing that it is still listed by some crypto-bookies and what everyone else is waiting for?

I will give a 90% chance that Casimero will win this fight although choosing what method he will win is a tough choice for us bettors.


casimero needs to win this match or else, don't know where he will go from here. if casimero will win, hopefully he will not be arrogant and say things you will be pissed about. this may be a win by decision. but if casimero is indeed very prepared on this fight, a win by KO is easy. casimero should not take this fight lightly even if akaho doesn't ring a bell in most boxing fans.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Akaho - December 3
Post by: serjent05 on December 02, 2022, 10:50:37 PM
casimero needs to win this match or else, don't know where he will go from here. if casimero will win, hopefully he will not be arrogant and say things you will be pissed about. this may be a win by decision. but if casimero is indeed very prepared on this fight, a win by KO is easy. casimero should not take this fight lightly even if akaho doesn't ring a bell in most boxing fans.

As a fellow Filipino, I also hope that Casimero will win this match.  I think it is fine to act as an arrogant trash-talker as long as he can back up his action.  I believe Casimero has a reason for acting like a bad guy trash-talking his opponent and even playing arrogant in front of the media.  That is to cater to interest and hype his fight.  After all no one can promote a boxer but the boxing promoter and the boxer himself.

I think Casimero is well prepared for this fight, we might see a more energized Casimero here because he doesn't need an extra effort that can drain his stamina to meet the weight requirement.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Akaho - December 3
Post by: agustina2 on December 02, 2022, 10:53:45 PM
The clash between the Philippines' John Riel Casimero and Japan's Ryo Akaho is now just an inch away from waiting before we will see it.

Everything looking good so far at these both boxers and they reach the required weight. Their fight is now the next thing we should see.

Does anyone know here where we can actually watch it "LIVE"? If there's any, advance thank you to those who will share.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Akaho - December 3
Post by: goinmerry on December 02, 2022, 11:56:16 PM
Does anyone know here where we can actually watch it "LIVE"? If there's any, advance thank you to those who will share.

I'm not sure if some streamers or users on Facebook will consider streaming that fight on LIVE since it's not a big fight to consider.

But since it's Casimero, maybe there will be some PH users that will try to share live content of that fight.

If it's just fine for you to watch the live content with lots of annoying ads or banners on the video, then try to search for "Casimero vs Akaho Live" on Facebook search once the fight is now taking place. Not a good live stream experience but that can be your option. Better than nothing.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Akaho - December 3
Post by: bisdak40 on December 03, 2022, 04:29:14 AM
The clash between the Philippines' John Riel Casimero and Japan's Ryo Akaho is now just an inch away from waiting before we will see it.

Everything looking good so far at these both boxers and they reach the required weight. Their fight is now the next thing we should see.

Does anyone know here where we can actually watch it "LIVE"? If there's any, advance thank you to those who will share.

I did a little research on how to watch this fight live and it leads me to FITE TV, yes it is available on that site on PPV @almost 20 USD. A bit expensive but if you are a die hard fan of Casimero then this is one way of showing support to our idol because if the buys on PPV is great then the promoter of Casimero will do its best to have a championship fight on his next outing.

I tried to but the PPV but unfortunately there's some problem with debit card.

To those who want to watch it free, search FB but i think the reception will not be too good.

Code:
https://www.facebook.com/watch/live/?ref=watch_permalink&v=659935779178985

^^ FB live but i will take this down after the fight right away.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Akaho - December 3
Post by: serjent05 on December 03, 2022, 08:26:20 AM
What a disappointing fight..  Nothing more to comment on here but the officials just made the fight looks like a circus.

It is obvious that Casimero is at its peak and Akaho just make some excuses not to continue the fight.  It should have been a TKO since Akaho doesn't want to continue but was deided as a no contest fight. I feel sorry for those who bought the ticket for this fight.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Akaho - December 3
Post by: bisdak40 on December 03, 2022, 08:33:33 AM
What a disappointing fight..  Nothing more to comment on here but the officials just made the fight looks like a circus.

It is obvious that Casimero is at its peak and Akaho just make some excuses not to continue the fight.  It should have been a TKO since Akaho doesn't want to continue but was deided as a no contest fight. I feel sorry for those who bought the ticket for this fight.

Lol, Akaho should be in Hollywood, he doesn't have the characteristics of a Japanese fighters that i knew where they "never surrender" but this Akaho is a coward. Should have been a TKO win for Casimero because Akaho quits, the referre should have the control on the outcome not the quitting of one fighter.

Nevertheless, a good comeback fight for Casimero as he has still the power that could knockout bigger opponents. Just unfortunate that the officiating and the promoters doesn't do its job very well.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Akaho - December 3
Post by: serjent05 on December 03, 2022, 08:43:41 AM
What a disappointing fight..  Nothing more to comment on here but the officials just made the fight looks like a circus.

It is obvious that Casimero is at its peak and Akaho just make some excuses not to continue the fight.  It should have been a TKO since Akaho doesn't want to continue but was deided as a no contest fight. I feel sorry for those who bought the ticket for this fight.

Lol, Akaho should be in Hollywood, he doesn't have the characteristics of a Japanese fighters that i knew where they "never surrender" but this Akaho is a coward. Should have been a TKO win for Casimero because Akaho quits, the referre should have the control on the outcome not the quitting of one fighter.

Akaho felt the strong punches of  Casimero and played it safe by acting along the warning of the referee to Casimero on hitting at the back of the head.  Akaho knows he will not last long so he just act as if the illegal punch render him not to continue. 

Now I know that there is a crucial skill in boxing that can turn the tide of the fight...  and that is acting.


Nevertheless, a good comeback fight for Casimero as he has still the power that could knockout bigger opponents. Just unfortunate that the officiating and the promoters doesn't do its job very well.

This fight gives Casimero a great impression, although short fight, but he shows that he has more power than before.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Akaho - December 3
Post by: robelneo on December 03, 2022, 09:14:23 AM
What a disappointing fight..  Nothing more to comment on here but the officials just made the fight looks like a circus.

It is obvious that Casimero is at its peak and Akaho just make some excuses not to continue the fight.  It should have been a TKO since Akaho doesn't want to continue but was deided as a no contest fight. I feel sorry for those who bought the ticket for this fight.

They can protest this fight, fighters cannot fool the boxing community, obviously, it was a delayed reaction, and when he see the referee warned Casimero of hitting the back of the head which is accidental because he keeps ducking the punch only grazed the head of Akaho, he plays along with it by acting he cannot continue, Akaho is no match against the power of Casimero and Casimero is all set up to finish Akaho until he did himself a favor of quitting instead of getting knocked out, very shameful act by Akaho.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Akaho - December 3
Post by: Baofeng on December 03, 2022, 09:43:31 AM
I'm still trying to dissect what really happened, I do agree this Akaho should no longer fight, he deserves to have an Oscar for his act here.

Probably when he tasted the power of Casimero is just the few minutes of the first round, he decided to no longer want the fight and think of how he can quit the game. What a shame.


Stake logo though, all over the ring hehehe.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Akaho - December 3
Post by: Kemarit on December 03, 2022, 10:27:26 AM
What a disappointing fight..  Nothing more to comment on here but the officials just made the fight looks like a circus.

It is obvious that Casimero is at its peak and Akaho just make some excuses not to continue the fight.  It should have been a TKO since Akaho doesn't want to continue but was deided as a no contest fight. I feel sorry for those who bought the ticket for this fight.

They can protest this fight, fighters cannot fool the boxing community, obviously, it was a delayed reaction, and when he see the referee warned Casimero of hitting the back of the head which is accidental because he keeps ducking the punch only grazed the head of Akaho, he plays along with it by acting he cannot continue, Akaho is no match against the power of Casimero and Casimero is all set up to finish Akaho until he did himself a favor of quitting instead of getting knocked out, very shameful act by Akaho.

Yes, he keeps on ducking his head that's why when Casimero try to punch him with the hook it will grazed behind his back but not totally hitting him on that spot.

Japanese boxing media for sure are going to roast Akaho for fighting this style.

They are not known to be like cowards and quit, but this Akaho takes the easiest route on instead of getting knock out, he quit.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Akaho - December 3
Post by: btc_angela on December 03, 2022, 10:31:54 AM
I thought this fight is still tomorrow after noon my time, and so I was surprised that they already fought.

Looking at some highlights in youtube, Casimero was still sharp and has the power although he was ruled out as a knock down in the first round if I'm not mistaken.

But after that, Casimero goes on a rampage and then Akaho felt the power and started to act like hew as hit behind the back, but the slow mo shows otherwise. Not sure if they will protest the result or not, but it was really odd to see how Akaho acted on this fight in his own back yard.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Akaho - December 3
Post by: Hypnosis00 on December 03, 2022, 10:56:46 AM
I'm still trying to dissect what really happened, I do agree this Akaho should no longer fight, he deserves to have an Oscar for his act here.

Probably when he tasted the power of Casimero is just the few minutes of the first round, he decided to no longer want the fight and think of how he can quit the game. What a shame.




Wait, so what was the final decision of the fight, I've seen the highlights but due to Akaho resting too long, there's no announcement in the highlight. So did Casimero gets disqualified for hitting Akaho at the back of the head or did Casimero won via TKO?

Quote
Stake logo though, all over the ring hehehe.
I saw it too, it was very visible, probably they are one of the major sponsors of the fight.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Akaho - December 3
Post by: Botnake on December 03, 2022, 11:15:00 AM
Casimero's power is very evident in this fight, Akaho could not handle it that's why he goes "best actor", LOL.. Although he was hit at the back but it wasn't a clear shot, most like a slip but he was already tired since Casimero was so relentless in attacking him.

I guess this is a good win by Casimero, he is now ready to face Inoue if the latter decides to move after winning the undisputed fight against Butler.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Akaho - December 3
Post by: Sanitough on December 03, 2022, 11:29:37 AM
I'm still trying to dissect what really happened, I do agree this Akaho should no longer fight, he deserves to have an Oscar for his act here.

Probably when he tasted the power of Casimero is just the few minutes of the first round, he decided to no longer want the fight and think of how he can quit the game. What a shame.



Wait, so what was the final decision of the fight, I've seen the highlights but due to Akaho resting too long, there's no announcement in the highlight. So did Casimero gets disqualified for hitting Akaho at the back of the head or did Casimero won via TKO?


The fight resulted in a no contest, but regardless, it was very obvious that Casimero is already winning that fight, if Akaho is not a good actor, Casimero could be declared the winner. What we are seeing is a beast Casimero, he was very aggressive and wanted to finish the fight early.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Akaho - December 3
Post by: ultrloa on December 03, 2022, 11:45:07 AM
Damn, I though I already see the most worst fight of boxing history in presence of Rigondeaux vs Casimero. But this is more worst its clear that Casimero won this match and it seems the referee is so bias with that japanese fighter what a big shame on his career for acting like being hit on the back of the head while its clear that he didn't take a serious hit in that area.

Akaho really felt the strength of Casimero and he know if he continue he will sleep on the ring and get more heavy damage.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Akaho - December 3
Post by: Yamifoud on December 03, 2022, 01:32:36 PM
Damn, I though I already see the most worst fight of boxing history in presence of Rigondeaux vs Casimero. But this is more worst its clear that Casimero won this match and it seems the referee is so bias with that japanese fighter what a big shame on his career for acting like being hit on the back of the head while its clear that he didn't take a serious hit in that area.
I saw it too, ref even count Casimero a knock down although it was very obvious that he was only slipped when he wasn't able to hit Akaho with a swing punch.

Akaho really felt the strength of Casimero and he know if he continue he will sleep on the ring and get more heavy damage.

If he hasn't acted like he was hit hard at the back, he will be more shame as he will surely get knockout.
Bias ref and actor fighter, LOL.. what a shame.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Akaho - December 3
Post by: Russlenat on December 03, 2022, 01:43:20 PM
I could have watch this fight through live streaming if I knew it's happening today. Usually, the date of the fight is on American time, I have no idea that it's on a Philippine time so it's just unfortunate that i missed watch this fight. Watching the highlights, I saw that the fight was short and ended in a controversial result, but in the eyes of the fans, it was very obvious who won the fight.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Akaho - December 3
Post by: Slow death on December 03, 2022, 02:05:43 PM
What a disappointing fight..  Nothing more to comment on here but the officials just made the fight looks like a circus.

It is obvious that Casimero is at its peak and Akaho just make some excuses not to continue the fight.  It should have been a TKO since Akaho doesn't want to continue but was deided as a no contest fight. I feel sorry for those who bought the ticket for this fight.

it was really a controversial result, but according to what I could tell from the tv commentator, in the first round casemiro landed a left on akaho's head and in the second round casemiro became even more aggressive and landed a strong right on akaho's head, and in the counter - attack the casemiro lost his balance and ended up on the canvas with both hands and the referee determined a knockdown and made the count of 8 on casemiro, irritated the casemiro hit a series of shots in the head of akaho, with 44 seconds left Someya alerted casemiro so as not to hit akaho in the head, and inexplicably akaho touched the nape and went to the neutral side and decided that he didn't want to continue the fight, I think akaho didn't want to continue the fight for fear of being hit in the back of the head and making it worse for him


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Akaho - December 3
Post by: fortunecrypto on December 03, 2022, 02:15:22 PM
I could have watch this fight through live streaming if I knew it's happening today. Usually, the date of the fight is on American time, I have no idea that it's on a Philippine time so it's just unfortunate that i missed watch this fight. Watching the highlights, I saw that the fight was short and ended in a controversial result, but in the eyes of the fans, it was very obvious who won the fight.

There's no solid punch in the back of the head all punches went on the body and the face of Akaho he is groggy and going down until he found a reason to act like he is punched in the back of the head, a big disappointment for those who watched this fight and Akaho should be ashamed of his action, this is not the same Akaho I watched in his previous fights, he is more of an actor than a boxer, a lot of people are booing Akaho for his action, the fight should be awarded to Casimero he is the clear winner here.
It should not be a no-contest if a fighter does not want to continue, it's TKO not a no-contest.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Akaho - December 3
Post by: Japinat on December 03, 2022, 02:58:46 PM
I could have watch this fight through live streaming if I knew it's happening today. Usually, the date of the fight is on American time, I have no idea that it's on a Philippine time so it's just unfortunate that i missed watch this fight. Watching the highlights, I saw that the fight was short and ended in a controversial result, but in the eyes of the fans, it was very obvious who won the fight.

There's no solid punch in the back of the head all punches went on the body and the face of Akaho he is groggy and going down until he found a reason to act like he is punched in the back of the head, a big disappointment for those who watched this fight and Akaho should be ashamed of his action, this is not the same Akaho I watched in his previous fights, he is more of an actor than a boxer, a lot of people are booing Akaho for his action, the fight should be awarded to Casimero he is the clear winner here.
It should not be a no-contest if a fighter does not want to continue, it's TKO not a no-contest.

He wasn't acting like a real fighter, he knows that the ref was in his favor so he was using that advantage, but where is the pride, he should just play fair and clean and give an entertaining fight for the fans. Casimero was obviously dominating the fight from the very start and Casimero sees an opportunity to finish him in round 2 but it was stopped because Akaho choose not to continue and just try to convince the ref that he was hit in the forbidden area.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Akaho - December 3
Post by: Shamm on December 03, 2022, 03:07:39 PM
I could have watch this fight through live streaming if I knew it's happening today. Usually, the date of the fight is on American time, I have no idea that it's on a Philippine time so it's just unfortunate that i missed watch this fight. Watching the highlights, I saw that the fight was short and ended in a controversial result, but in the eyes of the fans, it was very obvious who won the fight.

There's no solid punch in the back of the head all punches went on the body and the face of Akaho he is groggy and going down until he found a reason to act like he is punched in the back of the head, a big disappointment for those who watched this fight and Akaho should be ashamed of his action, this is not the same Akaho I watched in his previous fights, he is more of an actor than a boxer, a lot of people are booing Akaho for his action, the fight should be awarded to Casimero he is the clear winner here.
It should not be a no-contest if a fighter does not want to continue, it's TKO not a no-contest.

In the eyes of the fans for sure casimero will win in that fight as we all know that casimero did not totally hit the back of the head of akaho, and as we saw in the fight it's totally shame it because, once a fighter getting hit in the back for sure he will not act like that cause When the time he getting hit then he will stop and feel the pain immediately but what happen is that,  after that scene before akaho acting like that the referee will the one who said that akaho was hit in the back. but for sure if the referee did not say that then akaho will fine.
And the main reason why akaho acting like that it because we can see that his face can not survive the punches by casimero. His face already broke that time so he acting that he was hit hard so the fight won't be resume what a shame by akaho.  He is not a totally good in boxing but totally good in acting.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Akaho - December 3
Post by: ultrloa on December 03, 2022, 03:51:21 PM
Akaho really felt the strength of Casimero and he know if he continue he will sleep on the ring and get more heavy damage.

If he hasn't acted like he was hit hard at the back, he will be more shame as he will surely get knockout.
Bias ref and actor fighter, LOL.. what a shame.

For sure this is the last match of Akaho since what he show is totally shameful he didn't fight very well and he's been dominated to much by Casimero. Luckily the referee is on his side and Casimero is been counted for knockdown while we all see that it was just a slipped. If that one doesn't happen I doubt Akaho will do that since he don't have a choice but to continue the fight, he's still lucky because he find a hole to stop the fight without getting any lose on his record.

But the whole world see how shameful fighter he is and many agree that Casimero win that and he's been totally been wrecked by him.



Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Akaho - December 3
Post by: TravelMug on December 03, 2022, 03:51:41 PM
I could have watch this fight through live streaming if I knew it's happening today. Usually, the date of the fight is on American time, I have no idea that it's on a Philippine time so it's just unfortunate that i missed watch this fight. Watching the highlights, I saw that the fight was short and ended in a controversial result, but in the eyes of the fans, it was very obvious who won the fight.

There's no solid punch in the back of the head all punches went on the body and the face of Akaho he is groggy and going down until he found a reason to act like he is punched in the back of the head, a big disappointment for those who watched this fight and Akaho should be ashamed of his action, this is not the same Akaho I watched in his previous fights, he is more of an actor than a boxer, a lot of people are booing Akaho for his action, the fight should be awarded to Casimero he is the clear winner here.
It should not be a no-contest if a fighter does not want to continue, it's TKO not a no-contest.

In the eyes of the fans for sure casimero will win in that fight as we all know that casimero did not totally hit the back of the head of akaho, and as we saw in the fight it's totally shame it because, once a fighter getting hit in the back for sure he will not act like that cause When the time he getting hit then he will stop and feel the pain immediately but what happen is that,  after that scene before akaho acting like that the referee will the one who said that akaho was hit in the back. but for sure if the referee did not say that then akaho will fine.
And the main reason why akaho acting like that it because we can see that his face can not survive the punches by casimero. His face already broke that time so he acting that he was hit hard so the fight won't be resume what a shame by akaho.  He is not a totally good in boxing but totally good in acting.

Poor sportsmanship on the part of Akaho, and then the referee wasn't able to take control of the fight.

So for us definitely, this is a Casimero win in our books and it's good to see him back, making the weight, actually he was way under the weight which means the team did a good job this time and his body was able to maintain it and he doesn't lose any power at all.

But he needs to step up the competition, his management should get him to fight fighters in the top 5 and it should be in the US to get that maximum exposure.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Akaho - December 3
Post by: mirakal on December 03, 2022, 04:36:59 PM
What a disappointing fight..  Nothing more to comment on here but the officials just made the fight looks like a circus.

It is obvious that Casimero is at its peak and Akaho just make some excuses not to continue the fight.  It should have been a TKO since Akaho doesn't want to continue but was deided as a no contest fight. I feel sorry for those who bought the ticket for this fight.

Lol, Akaho should be in Hollywood, he doesn't have the characteristics of a Japanese fighters that i knew where they "never surrender" but this Akaho is a coward. Should have been a TKO win for Casimero because Akaho quits, the referre should have the control on the outcome not the quitting of one fighter.

Nevertheless, a good comeback fight for Casimero as he has still the power that could knockout bigger opponents. Just unfortunate that the officiating and the promoters doesn't do its job very well.

I feel sorry for Casimero because he have to experience this kind of embarrassing fight as his foe, Ryo Akaho, is so unprofessional and chose to act like he was really hurt. If we watched the replay, it wasn't a direct hit and it wasn't an intentional punch. Even Akaho himself reacted late and I reckon that he doesn't even knew that he was punched, not until the referee told Casimero to avoid doing the same thing and then Akaho started his drama.

On the bright side, at least now we know that Casimero can really keep up with the boxers in this division, though it's still premature to say that but I take that as an assurance that he can still fight well in this division. There's no need to have a rematch and prove that Casimero is superior because it was already clear what happened. This my first time to see a Japanese fighter/boxer to behave this way, unprofessional and so embarrassing to the industry.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Akaho - December 3
Post by: Fredomago on December 03, 2022, 06:54:31 PM
What a disappointing fight..  Nothing more to comment on here but the officials just made the fight looks like a circus.

It is obvious that Casimero is at its peak and Akaho just make some excuses not to continue the fight.  It should have been a TKO since Akaho doesn't want to continue but was deided as a no contest fight. I feel sorry for those who bought the ticket for this fight.

Lol, Akaho should be in Hollywood, he doesn't have the characteristics of a Japanese fighters that i knew where they "never surrender" but this Akaho is a coward. Should have been a TKO win for Casimero because Akaho quits, the referre should have the control on the outcome not the quitting of one fighter.

Nevertheless, a good comeback fight for Casimero as he has still the power that could knockout bigger opponents. Just unfortunate that the officiating and the promoters doesn't do its job very well.

I feel sorry for Casimero because he have to experience this kind of embarrassing fight as his foe, Ryo Akaho, is so unprofessional and chose to act like he was really hurt. If we watched the replay, it wasn't a direct hit and it wasn't an intentional punch. Even Akaho himself reacted late and I reckon that he doesn't even knew that he was punched, not until the referee told Casimero to avoid doing the same thing and then Akaho started his drama.

On the bright side, at least now we know that Casimero can really keep up with the boxers in this division, though it's still premature to say that but I take that as an assurance that he can still fight well in this division. There's no need to have a rematch and prove that Casimero is superior because it was already clear what happened. This my first time to see a Japanese fighter/boxer to behave this way, unprofessional and so embarrassing to the industry.


He knew(Akaho) that the power level of Casimero is starting to heat up and he can't do anything to avoid losing the fight, we all see it from the replay there's nothing that really affects his fighting capabilities, if wasn't from the ref the fight might be moving forward, it's an embarrass but nothing can be done, the decision has been given.

We might be looking for Casimero's next fight. Upon seeing his performance, it's simply saying that he's really trying to hype his name from this new division.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Akaho - December 3
Post by: lionheart78 on December 03, 2022, 07:51:10 PM

He knew(Akaho) that the power level of Casimero is starting to heat up and he can't do anything to avoid losing the fight, we all see it from the replay there's nothing that really affects his fighting capabilities, if wasn't from the ref the fight might be moving forward, it's an embarrass but nothing can be done, the decision has been given.

We might be looking for Casimero's next fight. Upon seeing his performance, it's simply saying that he's really trying to hype his name from this new division.


Well, that is a smart thinking in part of Akaho, after all boxing isn't just about who's tougher and stronger, smart people will take advantage of the opportunity to avoid defeats and this time Akaho took the advantage of the referee's call and play with it.

There is nothing for the officials to do on this part, they can't disqualify Casimero because it was unintentional (though Casimero hit Akaho several times at the back of the head before Casimero got a warning from the referee)  and cannot declare Casimero as a winner via TKO because of the reason that the fight is stopped due to illegal punch.  

We all know Casimero is dominating, but if we go to scorecard(which is impossible because the fight does not go beyond round 4), if they go to scorecard it would be a win for Akaho or a draw.
It will be a draw scoring the 1st round 10-9 to Casimero and the 2nd round 9-8 in favor of Akaho due to knockdown.  
Would be a win for Akaho if ever the ref deducts a point from Casimero since he caused the illegal shot that stopped the fight making the total scorecard 18-17 in favor of Akaho

Though disappointing, a no Contest is the best decision.  I feel sorry for Casimero that he is indeed dominating the fight and Akaho would go down if the referee doesn't call for an illegal punch and a warning to Casimero making Akaho take the chance to play it safe, and act as if he is severely injured of that illegal punch.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Akaho - December 3
Post by: Saisher on December 03, 2022, 09:43:18 PM


Well, that is a smart thinking in part of Akaho, after all boxing isn't just about who's tougher and stronger, smart people will take advantage of the opportunity to avoid defeats and this time Akaho took the advantage of the referee's call and play with it.
If all boxers will act like that then boxing is doom, boxing is a gladiator sport if you just rely on acting and referees then you are someone not worth watching in the ring

Quote
There is nothing for the officials to do on this part, they can't disqualify Casimero because it was unintentional (though Casimero hit Akaho several times at the back of the head before Casimero got a warning from the referee)  and cannot declare Casimero as a winner via TKO because of the reason that the fight is stopped due to illegal punch.  

I've seen so many punches like that Akaho cannot fool the boxing community, if you run the replay a hundred times those are grazing punches no solid punches land in the back of his head he just acting and the spectators know that is why they are booing if he is a real gladiator in the ring he will rest and come back.


Quote
Though disappointing, a no Contest is the best decision.  I feel sorry for Casimero that he is indeed dominating the fight and Akaho would go down if the referee doesn't call for an illegal punch and a warning to Casimero making Akaho take the chance to play it safe, and act as if he is severely injured of that illegal punch.
Akaho just find a way to quit because he is on the verge of getting knocked out that's all the boxing community saw and its not good for Akaho reputation.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Akaho - December 3
Post by: Baofeng on December 03, 2022, 10:00:02 PM
What a disappointing fight..  Nothing more to comment on here but the officials just made the fight looks like a circus.

It is obvious that Casimero is at its peak and Akaho just make some excuses not to continue the fight.  It should have been a TKO since Akaho doesn't want to continue but was deided as a no contest fight. I feel sorry for those who bought the ticket for this fight.

Lol, Akaho should be in Hollywood, he doesn't have the characteristics of a Japanese fighters that i knew where they "never surrender" but this Akaho is a coward. Should have been a TKO win for Casimero because Akaho quits, the referre should have the control on the outcome not the quitting of one fighter.

Nevertheless, a good comeback fight for Casimero as he has still the power that could knockout bigger opponents. Just unfortunate that the officiating and the promoters doesn't do its job very well.

I feel sorry for Casimero because he have to experience this kind of embarrassing fight as his foe, Ryo Akaho, is so unprofessional and chose to act like he was really hurt. If we watched the replay, it wasn't a direct hit and it wasn't an intentional punch. Even Akaho himself reacted late and I reckon that he doesn't even knew that he was punched, not until the referee told Casimero to avoid doing the same thing and then Akaho started his drama.

On the bright side, at least now we know that Casimero can really keep up with the boxers in this division, though it's still premature to say that but I take that as an assurance that he can still fight well in this division. There's no need to have a rematch and prove that Casimero is superior because it was already clear what happened. This my first time to see a Japanese fighter/boxer to behave this way, unprofessional and so embarrassing to the industry.

We've also speculated if Casimero can bring his power to this division and we have discussed it already. And for me I think he will and in this fight it was already proven. Although I don't like the way he over extend this punch because he will be caught by great counter puncher in this division, actually Akaho did in the first round. And of course the height, he will be in a disadvantage if ever he fight the like of Inoue or Stephen Fulton. But overall, the power is still with him in this division no doubt about it. You can hear the way it landed on Akaho, scary and that's why the Japanese fighter just doesn't want to go for another round because he will be KOed.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Akaho - December 3
Post by: BitcoinPanther on December 03, 2022, 10:40:09 PM
If all boxers will act like that then boxing is doom, boxing is a gladiator sport if you just rely on acting and referees then you are someone not worth watching in the ring

I think it is part of the game.  Many great boxers also do some acting to be able to win the game or rest when they are being beaten.  It also brings spices to the game.  So whether we like it or not it will happen.

We've also speculated if Casimero can bring his power to this division and we have discussed it already. And for me I think he will and in this fight it was already proven. Although I don't like the way he over extend this punch because he will be caught by great counter puncher in this division, actually Akaho did in the first round. And of course the height, he will be in a disadvantage if ever he fight the like of Inoue or Stephen Fulton. But overall, the power is still with him in this division no doubt about it. You can hear the way it landed on Akaho, scary and that's why the Japanese fighter just doesn't want to go for another round because he will be KOed.

Casimero did bring his power and even enhanced it in this Division.  I like the look of Casimero being hungry of victory.  I hope he will continue this kind of attitude.  It looks like not doing extra activities to meet the weight requirement really help.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Akaho - December 3
Post by: Taskford on December 03, 2022, 10:56:37 PM
I could have watch this fight through live streaming if I knew it's happening today. Usually, the date of the fight is on American time, I have no idea that it's on a Philippine time so it's just unfortunate that i missed watch this fight. Watching the highlights, I saw that the fight was short and ended in a controversial result, but in the eyes of the fans, it was very obvious who won the fight.

There's no solid punch in the back of the head all punches went on the body and the face of Akaho he is groggy and going down until he found a reason to act like he is punched in the back of the head, a big disappointment for those who watched this fight and Akaho should be ashamed of his action, this is not the same Akaho I watched in his previous fights, he is more of an actor than a boxer, a lot of people are booing Akaho for his action, the fight should be awarded to Casimero he is the clear winner here.
It should not be a no-contest if a fighter does not want to continue, it's TKO not a no-contest.

In the eyes of the fans for sure casimero will win in that fight as we all know that casimero did not totally hit the back of the head of akaho, and as we saw in the fight it's totally shame it because, once a fighter getting hit in the back for sure he will not act like that cause When the time he getting hit then he will stop and feel the pain immediately but what happen is that,  after that scene before akaho acting like that the referee will the one who said that akaho was hit in the back. but for sure if the referee did not say that then akaho will fine.
And the main reason why akaho acting like that it because we can see that his face can not survive the punches by casimero. His face already broke that time so he acting that he was hit hard so the fight won't be resume what a shame by akaho.  He is not a totally good in boxing but totally good in acting.

Poor sportsmanship on the part of Akaho, and then the referee wasn't able to take control of the fight.

So for us definitely, this is a Casimero win in our books and it's good to see him back, making the weight, actually he was way under the weight which means the team did a good job this time and his body was able to maintain it and he doesn't lose any power at all.

But he needs to step up the competition, his management should get him to fight fighters in the top 5 and it should be in the US to get that maximum exposure.

That is his gateway to get more bigger fight since for sure if we see great boxing between them provably he can flex back and ask for big fight with Inoue. But it seems this will not happen again but I guess for what he show with Akaho he's still have probabilities to get more better match for next time around he show how he dominated Akaho yesterday so for sure fans got hype up again for his next match.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Akaho - December 3
Post by: btc_angela on December 04, 2022, 02:01:56 AM
If all boxers will act like that then boxing is doom, boxing is a gladiator sport if you just rely on acting and referees then you are someone not worth watching in the ring

I think it is part of the game.  Many great boxers also do some acting to be able to win the game or rest when they are being beaten.  It also brings spices to the game.  So whether we like it or not it will happen.

We've also speculated if Casimero can bring his power to this division and we have discussed it already. And for me I think he will and in this fight it was already proven. Although I don't like the way he over extend this punch because he will be caught by great counter puncher in this division, actually Akaho did in the first round. And of course the height, he will be in a disadvantage if ever he fight the like of Inoue or Stephen Fulton. But overall, the power is still with him in this division no doubt about it. You can hear the way it landed on Akaho, scary and that's why the Japanese fighter just doesn't want to go for another round because he will be KOed.

Casimero did bring his power and even enhanced it in this Division.  I like the look of Casimero being hungry of victory.  I hope he will continue this kind of attitude.  It looks like not doing extra activities to meet the weight requirement really help.

He is at home with his new division, even weighing below the requirements of 122 lbs. So most likely he can easily made this weight with just a couple of adjustments in his end. And I also agree that he seems to be very hungry again, and motivated to climb back to his position of at least being a contender and a champion.

The fight again ended is a twist  and still a puzzle for us on why Akaho reacted that way.

No Contest result for Casimero but for us, he is the winner if just Akaho will not acted strangely and continue to fight.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Akaho - December 3
Post by: lienfaye on December 04, 2022, 02:42:07 AM
No Contest result for Casimero but for us, he is the winner if just Akaho will not acted strangely and continue to fight.
Akaho is a very good actor to act that way. It seems he is afraid to Casimero's heavy punch. Well, it's very unfair having a no contest result because clearly Casimero dominate the ring. It is supposed to be his victory but it ended to a disappointing result. I feel bad for Casimero, obviously he did his best and prepared himself for this fight. Is it possible to have a rematch?


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Akaho - December 3
Post by: coin-investor on December 04, 2022, 02:53:17 AM
No Contest result for Casimero but for us, he is the winner if just Akaho will not acted strangely and continue to fight.
Akaho is a very good actor to act that way. It seems he is afraid to Casimero's heavy punch. Well, it's very unfair having a no contest result because clearly Casimero dominate the ring. It is supposed to be his victory but it ended to a disappointing result. I feel bad for Casimero, obviously he did his best and prepared himself for this fight. Is it possible to have a rematch?

After I've seen the highlights of the fight I don't think this fight deserves a rematch its obvious who is the better fighter its not even close, a fight like this is what the fans get disappointed, we don't deserve this kind of fight fighters should come to fight, Akaho was groggy and hurt because of those legal punches and not from illegal punches because it just grazed the back of the head, there's not one single solid punch that landed in Akaho's back of the head, it's just pure acting, the fight was televised it's up to the boxing community to judge the context of the fight.

The majority of us here and the comments from other platforms are one in saying that Akaho is just acting so he can save himself from getting knocked out.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Akaho - December 3
Post by: Dave1 on December 04, 2022, 03:31:04 AM
No Contest result for Casimero but for us, he is the winner if just Akaho will not acted strangely and continue to fight.
Akaho is a very good actor to act that way. It seems he is afraid to Casimero's heavy punch. Well, it's very unfair having a no contest result because clearly Casimero dominate the ring. It is supposed to be his victory but it ended to a disappointing result. I feel bad for Casimero, obviously he did his best and prepared himself for this fight. Is it possible to have a rematch?

After I've seen the highlights of the fight I don't think this fight deserves a rematch its obvious who is the better fighter its not even close, a fight like this is what the fans get disappointed, we don't deserve this kind of fight fighters should come to fight, Akaho was groggy and hurt because of those legal punches and not from illegal punches because it just grazed the back of the head, there's not one single solid punch that landed in Akaho's back of the head, it's just pure acting, the fight was televised it's up to the boxing community to judge the context of the fight.

The majority of us here and the comments from other platforms are one in saying that Akaho is just acting so he can save himself from getting knocked out.

Yes, Akaho doesn't deserved to have a rematch against Casimero, he quit so why he wouldn't be given that privilege? Obviously even the Japanese fans are disappointed with their very own boxer in front of them, it's almost unheard of for a Japanese to quit this way inside the ring.

I agree that during the break, Casimero throw a punch, Akaho duck so he was not hit, then suddenly he calls the attention of the referee as it he was really hit at the back. We will what the Japanese commission will say after this fight, or perhaps Akaho will retire for good as a disgrace boxer.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Akaho - December 3
Post by: bisdak40 on December 04, 2022, 08:28:09 AM
No Contest result for Casimero but for us, he is the winner if just Akaho will not acted strangely and continue to fight.
Akaho is a very good actor to act that way. It seems he is afraid to Casimero's heavy punch. Well, it's very unfair having a no contest result because clearly Casimero dominate the ring. It is supposed to be his victory but it ended to a disappointing result. I feel bad for Casimero, obviously he did his best and prepared himself for this fight. Is it possible to have a rematch?

For sure the promoter will review the tape and decide from there but there is a chance that a rematch won't happen and for us here Akaho doesn't deserve the rematch as well.

I hope Team Casimero will file a protest to change the decision of the referee if it is possible, by that way at least all the hard work of Casimero will have a result as it will register as a win if the protest is successful.

In fairness to Akaho, he admitted via a tweet that it was his failure and admitted that he was confused about whether it was a clean punch that make him dizzy or the punch (which did hit) on the back of the head.



Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Akaho - December 3
Post by: inthelongrun on December 04, 2022, 12:29:15 PM
No Contest result for Casimero but for us, he is the winner if just Akaho will not acted strangely and continue to fight.
Akaho is a very good actor to act that way. It seems he is afraid to Casimero's heavy punch. Well, it's very unfair having a no contest result because clearly Casimero dominate the ring. It is supposed to be his victory but it ended to a disappointing result. I feel bad for Casimero, obviously he did his best and prepared himself for this fight. Is it possible to have a rematch?

For sure the promoter will review the tape and decide from there but there is a chance that a rematch won't happen and for us here Akaho doesn't deserve the rematch as well.

I hope Team Casimero will file a protest to change the decision of the referee if it is possible, by that way at least all the hard work of Casimero will have a result as it will register as a win if the protest is successful.

In fairness to Akaho, he admitted via a tweet that it was his failure and admitted that he was confused about whether it was a clean punch that make him dizzy or the punch (which did hit) on the back of the head.

But it seems impossible for Casimero to win a protest. If I am right, no major belts are sanctioning this fight which means that Casimero can file a protest directly to the Korean boxing board. The promoter of this fight is Korean and Akaho is its fighter so I guess Casimero should just move on. Casimero though can make a request letter to WBA, WBC, IBF, and WBO if it is possible for him to be given a rank in the top 10 considering he was clearly winning against Akaho.

It is going to become more interesting since Inoue-Butler happens in less than a week and Inoue is expected to vacate all the belts at 118 if he wins. At 122, WBO and WBC champion Stephen Fulton might also vacate his belts if he accepts the WBC mandate for him to move up to 126. The mo vacant belts, the higher chances of Casimero becoming a world champion again.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Akaho - December 3
Post by: Russlenat on December 04, 2022, 12:41:30 PM

It is going to become more interesting since Inoue-Butler happens in less than a week and Inoue is expected to vacate all the belts at 118 if he wins. At 122, WBO and WBC champion Stephen Fulton might also vacate his belts if he accepts the WBC mandate for him to move up to 126. The mo vacant belts, the higher chances of Casimero becoming a world champion again.

I like that, thanks for your research. Casimero deserves to be a champion again but he will not comeback anymore on the bantamweight division as he struggles to maintain the right weight. Now that he is in the higher division and his power is very evident, I guess he is very capable of knocking down opponents as long as he will go toe to toe on him. I'm expecting more exciting fights ahead for him, and hopefully he will not only win a vacate title but steal a title from a champion.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Akaho - December 3
Post by: yazher on December 04, 2022, 01:05:11 PM

In fairness to Akaho, he admitted via a tweet that it was his failure and admitted that he was confused about whether it was a clean punch that make him dizzy or the punch (which did hit) on the back of the head.


It was the worse fight I've ever witnessed and though Casimero is known to overcome opponents that are strange and psycho, this time it was all different because it seems like he is not fighting a pro boxer rather it feels like it was a street fight. Too bad it ended up like that and it wasn't the ending that we expect because the way they move inside the ring is unusual and Akaho seems to used the opportunity to stop the fight and thinking he might win unfortunately for him, it was a no contest and they really need to move on and not getting any rematch because the way they fight is not that exciting.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Akaho - December 3
Post by: lionheart78 on December 04, 2022, 04:57:00 PM
He is at home with his new division, even weighing below the requirements of 122 lbs. So most likely he can easily made this weight with just a couple of adjustments in his end. And I also agree that he seems to be very hungry again, and motivated to climb back to his position of at least being a contender and a champion.

Yeah it, it looks like this is his natural weight division.  Though he should improve his defense while attacking, I saw that he has lots of opening when getting aggressive and hunting down Akaho.  This should be polished.

The fight again ended is a twist  and still a puzzle for us on why Akaho reacted that way.

I watch it on Youtube Akaho admitted that he doesn't know which one make him dizzy, the barrage of the legal punches of Casimero or the one called illegal punch.  I believe it is the first one since the latter missed.

No Contest result for Casimero but for us, he is the winner if just Akaho will not acted strangely and continue to fight.

It is obvious that Akaho was hurt, it is just a matter of time on that round to putting Akaho on his knee but the referee to the rescue.  Another thing, if that was a true illegal blow, they could have made the ringside physician look at Akaho asap, but it took them several minutes to do so making me think that is indeed one of the plans of the officiating official to save Akaho when a thing like that happens. 


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Akaho - December 3
Post by: Fredomago on December 04, 2022, 07:49:36 PM
No Contest result for Casimero but for us, he is the winner if just Akaho will not acted strangely and continue to fight.
Akaho is a very good actor to act that way. It seems he is afraid to Casimero's heavy punch. Well, it's very unfair having a no contest result because clearly Casimero dominate the ring. It is supposed to be his victory but it ended to a disappointing result. I feel bad for Casimero, obviously he did his best and prepared himself for this fight. Is it possible to have a rematch?

Casimero put everything to win this fight but like what you said, Akaho is a great actor and we all witness what happen I'm not sure if Akaho will take that chance giving Casimero a chance to bring him down, after tasting how hard those punches that Casiemro throw to him, I can say that aide from huge amount of money that might bring him into the negotiation table but nonetheless, he won't take that  route.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Akaho - December 3
Post by: Kemarit on December 04, 2022, 08:22:02 PM
No Contest result for Casimero but for us, he is the winner if just Akaho will not acted strangely and continue to fight.
Akaho is a very good actor to act that way. It seems he is afraid to Casimero's heavy punch. Well, it's very unfair having a no contest result because clearly Casimero dominate the ring. It is supposed to be his victory but it ended to a disappointing result. I feel bad for Casimero, obviously he did his best and prepared himself for this fight. Is it possible to have a rematch?

Casimero put everything to win this fight but like what you said, Akaho is a great actor and we all witness what happen I'm not sure if Akaho will take that chance giving Casimero a chance to bring him down, after tasting how hard those punches that Casiemro throw to him, I can say that aide from huge amount of money that might bring him into the negotiation table but nonetheless, he won't take that  route.

We all feel bad for Casimero because as you have said he put everything in training just to get back on this track for his career. But Akaho doesn't want to take the chance to get knockout in his own country so he just take the best route for him.

As for Casimero, I don't think he need to file a protest, just take it as it is and move on to the next fight in 122 lbs. Hopefully it will be in some undercard in the US, no need to go to the champions immediately, another tune up fight but this time it should be in the US soil so that he will get a good exposure again.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Akaho - December 3
Post by: TimeTeller on December 04, 2022, 08:33:33 PM

It is going to become more interesting since Inoue-Butler happens in less than a week and Inoue is expected to vacate all the belts at 118 if he wins. At 122, WBO and WBC champion Stephen Fulton might also vacate his belts if he accepts the WBC mandate for him to move up to 126. The mo vacant belts, the higher chances of Casimero becoming a world champion again.

I like that, thanks for your research. Casimero deserves to be a champion again but he will not comeback anymore on the bantamweight division as he struggles to maintain the right weight. Now that he is in the higher division and his power is very evident, I guess he is very capable of knocking down opponents as long as he will go toe to toe on him. I'm expecting more exciting fights ahead for him, and hopefully he will not only win a vacate title but steal a title from a champion.

I believe this will be the next target of Casimero's camp after this drama.
But he needs to make sure that he is complying with the rules on the weight division that he will put himself into.
People are getting disappointed if his fight is getting delayed, suspended because of his weight issues.

No Contest result for Casimero but for us, he is the winner if just Akaho will not acted strangely and continue to fight.
Akaho is a very good actor to act that way. It seems he is afraid to Casimero's heavy punch. Well, it's very unfair having a no contest result because clearly Casimero dominate the ring. It is supposed to be his victory but it ended to a disappointing result. I feel bad for Casimero, obviously he did his best and prepared himself for this fight. Is it possible to have a rematch?

Casimero put everything to win this fight but like what you said, Akaho is a great actor and we all witness what happen I'm not sure if Akaho will take that chance giving Casimero a chance to bring him down, after tasting how hard those punches that Casiemro throw to him, I can say that aide from huge amount of money that might bring him into the negotiation table but nonetheless, he won't take that  route.

We all feel bad for Casimero because as you have said he put everything in training just to get back on this track for his career. But Akaho doesn't want to take the chance to get knockout in his own country so he just take the best route for him.

As for Casimero, I don't think he need to file a protest, just take it as it is and move on to the next fight in 122 lbs. Hopefully it will be in some undercard in the US, no need to go to the champions immediately, another tune up fight but this time it should be in the US soil so that he will get a good exposure again.

Most boxing sites are using the term "pretending to be hurt" in reference to Akaho.
It means, most audience also feel that Akaho just complained so the fight will be stopped and not favoring Casimero.
I don't think Casimero will ask for a re-match on this boxer. Better look for another worthwhile opponent.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Akaho - December 3
Post by: serjent05 on December 04, 2022, 09:00:40 PM
No Contest result for Casimero but for us, he is the winner if just Akaho will not acted strangely and continue to fight.
Akaho is a very good actor to act that way. It seems he is afraid to Casimero's heavy punch. Well, it's very unfair having a no contest result because clearly Casimero dominate the ring. It is supposed to be his victory but it ended to a disappointing result. I feel bad for Casimero, obviously he did his best and prepared himself for this fight. Is it possible to have a rematch?

Casimero put everything to win this fight but like what you said, Akaho is a great actor and we all witness what happen I'm not sure if Akaho will take that chance giving Casimero a chance to bring him down, after tasting how hard those punches that Casiemro throw to him, I can say that aide from huge amount of money that might bring him into the negotiation table but nonetheless, he won't take that  route.

I think a rematch won't happen if the officials decided to suggest this thing.  I think Akaho had enough taste of Casimero's strength so probably Akaho will disregard any chance of a rematch fight against Casimero.

Regardless of what happened, it is pleasing to the eye how these two boxers respect each other in the conference room when they are called for some discussion.

It was the worse fight I've ever witnessed and though Casimero is known to overcome opponents that are strange and psycho, this time it was all different because it seems like he is not fighting a pro boxer rather it feels like it was a street fight. Too bad it ended up like that and it wasn't the ending that we expect because the way they move inside the ring is unusual and Akaho seems to used the opportunity to stop the fight and thinking he might win unfortunately for him, it was a no contest and they really need to move on and not getting any rematch because the way they fight is not that exciting.

I have seen a worst scenario than this.  Casimero isn't fighting a street fight but rather fighting in a stage play where the main actor is Akaho.  :D  I bet this would receive a stage play of the year award and Akaho being the best actor.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Akaho - December 3
Post by: harizen on December 04, 2022, 11:44:16 PM
I don't think Casimero will ask for a re-match on this boxer. Better look for another worthwhile opponent.

I hope boxing councils will take a look at that fight and allow Casimero to have at least give a chance to fight a ranked fighter in at least the Top 5.

Akaho just became a punching bag for Casimero and no way he will last even on 5 rounds. It's clear already that Casimero does have a chance against those boxers that much ahead of the rank of Akaho. It will be more entertaining to see if Casimero will instead face a much stronger and tough opponent as Akaho is not like that.

A rematch is totally crap and I'm sure Akaho won't like to do it either as he already feels and experiences the wrath of Casimero.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Akaho - December 3
Post by: goinmerry on December 04, 2022, 11:52:03 PM
We all feel bad for Casimero because as you have said he put everything in training just to get back on this track for his career. But Akaho doesn't want to take the chance to get knockout in his own country so he just take the best route for him.

I think we shouldn't feel bad for Casimero as even though that fight turned out bad, he shows the world that he can still dominate his opponent even inactive for a year. I'm sure Casimero catch the most boxers' attention in the 122 lbs as they are now next in line. I'm also sure that Casimero's next fight will be against a much more popular boxer compared to Akaho.

This is the start now of his new path and he should just need to continue winning every match.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Akaho - December 3
Post by: Yamifoud on December 05, 2022, 04:20:51 AM
We all feel bad for Casimero because as you have said he put everything in training just to get back on this track for his career. But Akaho doesn't want to take the chance to get knockout in his own country so he just take the best route for him.

I think we shouldn't feel bad for Casimero as even though that fight turned out bad, he shows the world that he can still dominate his opponent even inactive for a year. I'm sure Casimero catch the most boxers' attention in the 122 lbs as they are now next in line. I'm also sure that Casimero's next fight will be against a much more popular boxer compared to Akaho.

This is the start now of his new path and he should just need to continue winning every match.

Exactly, the decision is not good but we saw the fight on how Casimero dominated Akaho. Sometimes, the dirty technique would win but it will never win in the eyes of the fans. IMO, Casimero is very comfortable in the current weight class and he will most likely meet Inoue in the ring in the future.

It resulted to no contest but it's very clear who won the fight.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Akaho - December 3
Post by: cryptomaniac_xxx on December 05, 2022, 05:37:33 AM
We all feel bad for Casimero because as you have said he put everything in training just to get back on this track for his career. But Akaho doesn't want to take the chance to get knockout in his own country so he just take the best route for him.

I think we shouldn't feel bad for Casimero as even though that fight turned out bad, he shows the world that he can still dominate his opponent even inactive for a year. I'm sure Casimero catch the most boxers' attention in the 122 lbs as they are now next in line. I'm also sure that Casimero's next fight will be against a much more popular boxer compared to Akaho.

I don't see us feeling bad for Casimero, it's not a good fight, but it's not his fault. He still has the power even after not fighting for more than a year. Definitely, 122 lbs will be exciting as this is his official 122 lbs debut and we see his power in this new weight class.

This is the start now of his new path and he should just need to continue winning every match.

True, a new beginning for him and he should take advantage of it as he has the momentum. Now, we focus our attention to the Inoue vs Butler match.

I like Casimero getting his hands against Luis Nery, this will be an explosive fight.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Akaho - December 3
Post by: BitcoinPanther on December 05, 2022, 07:39:16 AM
I don't think Casimero will ask for a re-match on this boxer. Better look for another worthwhile opponent.

I hope boxing councils will take a look at that fight and allow Casimero to have at least give a chance to fight a ranked fighter in at least the Top 5.

I believe the case is in the hand of the boxing council now and probably reviewing the decision if it is just.  According to Casimero, there is a huge possibility that the win will be given to him, we would like that to happen but of course that is not reliable because Casimero isn't within the people who will make the decision.


Akaho just became a punching bag for Casimero and no way he will last even on 5 rounds. It's clear already that Casimero does have a chance against those boxers that much ahead of the rank of Akaho. It will be more entertaining to see if Casimero will instead face a much stronger and tough opponent as Akaho is not like that.

A rematch is totally crap and I'm sure Akaho won't like to do it either as he already feels and experiences the wrath of Casimero.

I think there will be no rematch because, according to Nonito Donaire[1], Akaho is already planning to retire after his fight against Casimero.



[1] https://youtu.be/-5Y8y4oZjoI?t=98


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Akaho - December 3
Post by: Natalim on December 05, 2022, 08:12:59 AM

I think there will be no rematch because, according to Nonito Donaire[1], Akaho is already planning to retire after his fight against Casimero.

Good thing he realized that he cannot handle powerful punches anymore, but Donaire is always better than him because although it was clear that he can't carry the punches of Inoue, but still he choose to continue, this guy (AKaho) choose to make excuses and the result was in his favor.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Akaho - December 3
Post by: Jawhead999 on December 05, 2022, 08:23:34 AM
Good thing he realized that he cannot handle powerful punches anymore, but Donaire is always better than him because although it was clear that he can't carry the punches of Inoue, but still he choose to continue, this guy (AKaho) choose to make excuses and the result was in his favor.
Casimero is really dominating, in 2 rounds we can see Casimero landed clean and strong punch to Akaho's face, it's just unfortunate that Casimero accidentally punch back of Akaho's head, I think it's not that strong too. Actually the fight can be continued even though Casimero get reduction on his point, but I'm pretty sure Casimero will win via Knock Out before sixth round. There's many fights where someone punch their opponent back for one time, but the fight isn't cancelled.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Akaho - December 3
Post by: Vaculin on December 05, 2022, 02:04:06 PM
No Contest result for Casimero but for us, he is the winner if just Akaho will not acted strangely and continue to fight.

It is obvious that Akaho was hurt, it is just a matter of time on that round to putting Akaho on his knee but the referee to the rescue.  Another thing, if that was a true illegal blow, they could have made the ringside physician look at Akaho asap, but it took them several minutes to do so making me think that is indeed one of the plans of the officiating official to save Akaho when a thing like that happens. 

Let's not go in that discussion because if we say that the officiating officials are unfair and they favored Akaho, then we would've also said in general that Japanese officials in boxing organization are unprofessional. We know that they are not like that as they are the most professional people we know as it's on their culture already not to cheat or something like that. Let's just say that Akaho was the one who is unprofessional and scared to add defeats on his record that is why he decided to have that act that give embarrassment to the whole Japanese boxing community. I'd say that they aren't letting that one slide and will investigate about it.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Akaho - December 3
Post by: Japinat on December 05, 2022, 04:01:26 PM

I think there will be no rematch because, according to Nonito Donaire[1], Akaho is already planning to retire after his fight against Casimero.

Good thing he realized that he cannot handle powerful punches anymore, but Donaire is always better than him because although it was clear that he can't carry the punches of Inoue, but still he choose to continue, this guy (AKaho) choose to make excuses and the result was in his favor.

Well, he really should. People won't be happy anymore having him on the ring with this kind of history he just made, he should be embarrassed of himself for pulling that kind of stunt and for robbing someone a supposed win instead of facing his consequence that Casimero was far beyond his limits. That he way, he could have retire with a peaceful mind and with respect from the industry.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Akaho - December 3
Post by: Fatunad on December 05, 2022, 11:54:14 PM
No Contest result for Casimero but for us, he is the winner if just Akaho will not acted strangely and continue to fight.

It is obvious that Akaho was hurt, it is just a matter of time on that round to putting Akaho on his knee but the referee to the rescue.  Another thing, if that was a true illegal blow, they could have made the ringside physician look at Akaho asap, but it took them several minutes to do so making me think that is indeed one of the plans of the officiating official to save Akaho when a thing like that happens. 

Let's not go in that discussion because if we say that the officiating officials are unfair and they favored Akaho, then we would've also said in general that Japanese officials in boxing organization are unprofessional. We know that they are not like that as they are the most professional people we know as it's on their culture already not to cheat or something like that. Let's just say that Akaho was the one who is unprofessional and scared to add defeats on his record that is why he decided to have that act that give embarrassment to the whole Japanese boxing community. I'd say that they aren't letting that one slide and will investigate about it.
Lets not generalize because thats not how Japanese behavior and traits which we know that they are indeed honest and its impossible that they would really play along on what Akaho been doing.
Ive seen on how many replays that it wasnt really that a solid back head blow or rather it hit up on the neck.The reaction time was too delay which it would really be giving you
suspicious thinking that it is really just pure acting. So this one ends up on no contest? So this ends up on having no match or record at all?
that guy is so fucking clever.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Akaho - December 3
Post by: AmoreJaz on December 05, 2022, 11:57:48 PM
No Contest result for Casimero but for us, he is the winner if just Akaho will not acted strangely and continue to fight.

It is obvious that Akaho was hurt, it is just a matter of time on that round to putting Akaho on his knee but the referee to the rescue.  Another thing, if that was a true illegal blow, they could have made the ringside physician look at Akaho asap, but it took them several minutes to do so making me think that is indeed one of the plans of the officiating official to save Akaho when a thing like that happens.  

Let's not go in that discussion because if we say that the officiating officials are unfair and they favored Akaho, then we would've also said in general that Japanese officials in boxing organization are unprofessional. We know that they are not like that as they are the most professional people we know as it's on their culture already not to cheat or something like that. Let's just say that Akaho was the one who is unprofessional and scared to add defeats on his record that is why he decided to have that act that give embarrassment to the whole Japanese boxing community. I'd say that they aren't letting that one slide and will investigate about it.
Lets not generalize because thats not how Japanese behavior and traits which we know that they are indeed honest and its impossible that they would really play along on what Akaho been doing.
Ive seen on how many replays that it wasnt really that a solid back head blow or rather it hit up on the neck.The reaction time was too delay which it would really be giving you
suspicious thinking that it is really just pure acting. So this one ends up on no contest? So this ends up on having no match or record at all?
that guy is so fucking clever.

we are now awaiting if the decision will be overturned after meticulous review of the recording. i am still on the fact that most japanese are honest people so hopefully if they see something was biased with the referee's decision, they should accept their mistakes. we are now waiting how they will rectify the bad decision if in case it was proven that akaho just saved himself from casimero's hands.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Akaho - December 3
Post by: goinmerry on December 05, 2022, 11:59:01 PM
No Contest result for Casimero but for us, he is the winner if just Akaho will not acted strangely and continue to fight.

It is obvious that Akaho was hurt, it is just a matter of time on that round to putting Akaho on his knee but the referee to the rescue.  Another thing, if that was a true illegal blow, they could have made the ringside physician look at Akaho asap, but it took them several minutes to do so making me think that is indeed one of the plans of the officiating official to save Akaho when a thing like that happens. 

Let's not go in that discussion because if we say that the officiating officials are unfair and they favored Akaho, then we would've also said in general that Japanese officials in boxing organization are unprofessional. We know that they are not like that as they are the most professional people we know as it's on their culture already not to cheat or something like that. Let's just say that Akaho was the one who is unprofessional and scared to add defeats on his record that is why he decided to have that act that give embarrassment to the whole Japanese boxing community. I'd say that they aren't letting that one slide and will investigate about it.

Who is to blame then? I know it's not a Japanese trait but it's clear that those involved are doing shit on that match.

You can't blame others if they thought something bad about how the fight turned out.

Akaho is a disgrace, and so are the officials and referess there. They are putting a negative image on the whole Japanese community.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Akaho - December 3
Post by: Vaculin on December 06, 2022, 08:30:39 AM
No Contest result for Casimero but for us, he is the winner if just Akaho will not acted strangely and continue to fight.

It is obvious that Akaho was hurt, it is just a matter of time on that round to putting Akaho on his knee but the referee to the rescue.  Another thing, if that was a true illegal blow, they could have made the ringside physician look at Akaho asap, but it took them several minutes to do so making me think that is indeed one of the plans of the officiating official to save Akaho when a thing like that happens. 

Let's not go in that discussion because if we say that the officiating officials are unfair and they favored Akaho, then we would've also said in general that Japanese officials in boxing organization are unprofessional. We know that they are not like that as they are the most professional people we know as it's on their culture already not to cheat or something like that. Let's just say that Akaho was the one who is unprofessional and scared to add defeats on his record that is why he decided to have that act that give embarrassment to the whole Japanese boxing community. I'd say that they aren't letting that one slide and will investigate about it.
Lets not generalize because thats not how Japanese behavior and traits which we know that they are indeed honest and its impossible that they would really play along on what Akaho been doing.
Ive seen on how many replays that it wasnt really that a solid back head blow or rather it hit up on the neck.The reaction time was too delay which it would really be giving you
suspicious thinking that it is really just pure acting. So this one ends up on no contest? So this ends up on having no match or record at all?
that guy is so fucking clever.

That's what I'm trying to say, let's just put Akaho's fate on the Japanese official's hands because I know they will investigate on it as Akaho brought embarrassment to the whole boxing community of Japan. We all know that they won't support that kind of tricks that will put the nation's name in jeopardy even if the person was one of their own. Nevertheless, we know that Casimero can still do a good job in this division and I hope he will be paired again early next year because the fight he had was a bit shorter than expected.

Quote
So this one ends up on no contest? So this ends up on having no match or record at all?
The match was of course recorded but it is on the expense of Casimero as he was now portrayed to be the bad guy who punched a boxer at the back of his head that leads to a no contest fight.

See it here: https://boxrec.com/en/box-pro/421916


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Akaho - December 3
Post by: mirakal on December 06, 2022, 08:53:07 AM
No Contest result for Casimero but for us, he is the winner if just Akaho will not acted strangely and continue to fight.

It is obvious that Akaho was hurt, it is just a matter of time on that round to putting Akaho on his knee but the referee to the rescue.  Another thing, if that was a true illegal blow, they could have made the ringside physician look at Akaho asap, but it took them several minutes to do so making me think that is indeed one of the plans of the officiating official to save Akaho when a thing like that happens. 

Let's not go in that discussion because if we say that the officiating officials are unfair and they favored Akaho, then we would've also said in general that Japanese officials in boxing organization are unprofessional. We know that they are not like that as they are the most professional people we know as it's on their culture already not to cheat or something like that. Let's just say that Akaho was the one who is unprofessional and scared to add defeats on his record that is why he decided to have that act that give embarrassment to the whole Japanese boxing community. I'd say that they aren't letting that one slide and will investigate about it.
Lets not generalize because thats not how Japanese behavior and traits which we know that they are indeed honest and its impossible that they would really play along on what Akaho been doing.
Ive seen on how many replays that it wasnt really that a solid back head blow or rather it hit up on the neck.The reaction time was too delay which it would really be giving you
suspicious thinking that it is really just pure acting. So this one ends up on no contest? So this ends up on having no match or record at all?
that guy is so fucking clever.

That's what I'm trying to say, let's just put Akaho's fate on the Japanese official's hands because I know they will investigate on it as Akaho brought embarrassment to the whole boxing community of Japan. We all know that they won't support that kind of tricks that will put the nation's name in jeopardy even if the person was one of their own. Nevertheless, we know that Casimero can still do a good job in this division and I hope he will be paired again early next year because the fight he had was a bit shorter than expected.

Quote
So this one ends up on no contest? So this ends up on having no match or record at all?
The match was of course recorded but it is on the expense of Casimero as he was now portrayed to be the bad guy who punched a boxer at the back of his head that leads to a no contest fight.

See it here: https://boxrec.com/en/box-pro/421916

Right! Let's just stop from pointing our fingers because we all already know the truth and that Ryo Akaho is the one who deserves to get blamed for the little unprofessional act he pulled in front of the whole public that made the referee confused and declared the fight as a no contest. The crowd wasn't happy about what they saw either as they booed the fighters because that's not what they paid for.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Akaho - December 3
Post by: Fredomago on December 06, 2022, 10:03:54 AM
No Contest result for Casimero but for us, he is the winner if just Akaho will not acted strangely and continue to fight.

It is obvious that Akaho was hurt, it is just a matter of time on that round to putting Akaho on his knee but the referee to the rescue.  Another thing, if that was a true illegal blow, they could have made the ringside physician look at Akaho asap, but it took them several minutes to do so making me think that is indeed one of the plans of the officiating official to save Akaho when a thing like that happens. 

Let's not go in that discussion because if we say that the officiating officials are unfair and they favored Akaho, then we would've also said in general that Japanese officials in boxing organization are unprofessional. We know that they are not like that as they are the most professional people we know as it's on their culture already not to cheat or something like that. Let's just say that Akaho was the one who is unprofessional and scared to add defeats on his record that is why he decided to have that act that give embarrassment to the whole Japanese boxing community. I'd say that they aren't letting that one slide and will investigate about it.

Who is to blame then? I know it's not a Japanese trait but it's clear that those involved are doing shit on that match.

You can't blame others if they thought something bad about how the fight turned out.

Akaho is a disgrace, and so are the officials and referess there. They are putting a negative image on the whole Japanese community.

I go to that direction, Akaho's act and the officiating bodies who handle that fight is a disgrace to the entire Japanese community, I'm sure after this fight there would be reviews and corresponding actions to avoid things like this to happen, if Casimero won't get any change in that particular decision he might get a good fight after this incident.

He still has that caliber and a big threat to this division, with the hype happen to that last fight for sure he will gain additional attention
good still for him to bring another fight and maybe a good money fight.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Akaho - December 3
Post by: Taskford on December 06, 2022, 10:16:42 AM
No Contest result for Casimero but for us, he is the winner if just Akaho will not acted strangely and continue to fight.
Akaho is a very good actor to act that way. It seems he is afraid to Casimero's heavy punch. Well, it's very unfair having a no contest result because clearly Casimero dominate the ring. It is supposed to be his victory but it ended to a disappointing result. I feel bad for Casimero, obviously he did his best and prepared himself for this fight. Is it possible to have a rematch?

Casimero put everything to win this fight but like what you said, Akaho is a great actor and we all witness what happen I'm not sure if Akaho will take that chance giving Casimero a chance to bring him down, after tasting how hard those punches that Casiemro throw to him, I can say that aide from huge amount of money that might bring him into the negotiation table but nonetheless, he won't take that  route.

We all feel bad for Casimero because as you have said he put everything in training just to get back on this track for his career. But Akaho doesn't want to take the chance to get knockout in his own country so he just take the best route for him.

As for Casimero, I don't think he need to file a protest, just take it as it is and move on to the next fight in 122 lbs. Hopefully it will be in some undercard in the US, no need to go to the champions immediately, another tune up fight but this time it should be in the US soil so that he will get a good exposure again.

Most boxing sites are using the term "pretending to be hurt" in reference to Akaho.
It means, most audience also feel that Akaho just complained so the fight will be stopped and not favoring Casimero.
I don't think Casimero will ask for a re-match on this boxer. Better look for another worthwhile opponent.

Majority agree that Akaho became coward when he feel the power of Casimero and I doubt he still can get big fights after what happen. Promoters will not waste their money for lousy fighter since no one will watch his fight next time around.

Might be good for Casimero to step up since he show great performance and might he will get more big fights next year after that match.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Akaho - December 3
Post by: bisdak40 on December 06, 2022, 11:38:17 AM
So this one ends up on no contest? So this ends up on having no match or record at all?
The match was of course recorded but it is on the expense of Casimero as he was now portrayed to be the bad guy who punched a boxer at the back of his head that leads to a no contest fight.

See it here: https://boxrec.com/en/box-pro/421916

He may be a bad guy for some people, especially to the fans of Akaho but to most of us who are hardcore fans of boxing can appreciate what really has have happened and we can always review the video to see if Casimero really has hit Akaho at the back of his head. I just hope though that they will revisit the decision of the referee and do some necessary actions if it warrants some like declaring Casimero as the winner by TKO.

Have to lock the thread in the next few hours and as usual thanks to all of you who shared your ideas/speculations on this thread but unfortunately no one here makes some money with this fight as it was declared a "no contest".  


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Akaho - December 3
Post by: Kelvinid on December 06, 2022, 11:54:05 AM

He may be a bad guy for some people, especially to the fans of Akaho but to most of us who are hardcore fans of boxing can appreciate what really has have happened and we can always review the video to see if Casimero really has hit Akaho at the back of his head. I just hope though that they will revisit the decision of the referee and do some necessary actions if it warrants some like declaring Casimero as the winner by TKO.

Have to lock the thread in the next few hours and as usual thanks to all of you who shared your ideas/speculations on this thread but unfortunately no one here makes some money with this fight as it was declared a "no contest". 

He does not look like a bad guy because fans are blaming Akaho for being an actor, besides, what is written in the link share was it was accidentally hit at the back of the head, which means not intentional. Casimero will eventually find a great opponent, someone that could fight with him toe to toe until the end.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Akaho - December 3
Post by: Shamm on December 06, 2022, 02:20:01 PM

He may be a bad guy for some people, especially to the fans of Akaho but to most of us who are hardcore fans of boxing can appreciate what really has have happened and we can always review the video to see if Casimero really has hit Akaho at the back of his head. I just hope though that they will revisit the decision of the referee and do some necessary actions if it warrants some like declaring Casimero as the winner by TKO.

Have to lock the thread in the next few hours and as usual thanks to all of you who shared your ideas/speculations on this thread but unfortunately no one here makes some money with this fight as it was declared a "no contest". 

He does not look like a bad guy because fans are blaming Akaho for being an actor, besides, what is written in the link share was it was accidentally hit at the back of the head, which means not intentional. Casimero will eventually find a great opponent, someone that could fight with him toe to toe until the end.

Yes you are right that mate and in the eyes of Fans of Akaho then casimero is a bad guy and we can not disagree with that because that is their point of view. But if we take or review the fight it we all know that is not intentionally but akaho is a good actor then the fight goes to not contest fight. And I think that it's better for casimero to find some good opponent that can fight him toe to toe and the last man standing is a winner.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Akaho - December 3
Post by: Japinat on December 06, 2022, 03:42:29 PM
No Contest result for Casimero but for us, he is the winner if just Akaho will not acted strangely and continue to fight.

It is obvious that Akaho was hurt, it is just a matter of time on that round to putting Akaho on his knee but the referee to the rescue.  Another thing, if that was a true illegal blow, they could have made the ringside physician look at Akaho asap, but it took them several minutes to do so making me think that is indeed one of the plans of the officiating official to save Akaho when a thing like that happens. 

Let's not go in that discussion because if we say that the officiating officials are unfair and they favored Akaho, then we would've also said in general that Japanese officials in boxing organization are unprofessional. We know that they are not like that as they are the most professional people we know as it's on their culture already not to cheat or something like that. Let's just say that Akaho was the one who is unprofessional and scared to add defeats on his record that is why he decided to have that act that give embarrassment to the whole Japanese boxing community. I'd say that they aren't letting that one slide and will investigate about it.

Who is to blame then? I know it's not a Japanese trait but it's clear that those involved are doing shit on that match.

You can't blame others if they thought something bad about how the fight turned out.

Akaho is a disgrace, and so are the officials and referess there. They are putting a negative image on the whole Japanese community.

I go to that direction, Akaho's act and the officiating bodies who handle that fight is a disgrace to the entire Japanese community, I'm sure after this fight there would be reviews and corresponding actions to avoid things like this to happen, if Casimero won't get any change in that particular decision he might get a good fight after this incident.

He still has that caliber and a big threat to this division, with the hype happen to that last fight for sure he will gain additional attention
good still for him to bring another fight and maybe a good money fight.

Well, what can I say? Ryo Akaho really put a bad image to the entire boxing community of Japan and yes, I do agree, the boxing community might set him as an example so that there would be no other boxers who will try to pull this kind of stunt and in that way, the disgrace that Akaho did won't reflect much to the entire community.

About Casimero, people already know that he still have the traits to be the champion and can still give struggles to the existing champions. I do hope he can get another fight somewhere in the 1st quarter of 2023 because people and fans are unsatisfied with that fight.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Akaho - December 3
Post by: Lanatsa on December 06, 2022, 08:25:31 PM

He may be a bad guy for some people, especially to the fans of Akaho but to most of us who are hardcore fans of boxing can appreciate what really has have happened and we can always review the video to see if Casimero really has hit Akaho at the back of his head. I just hope though that they will revisit the decision of the referee and do some necessary actions if it warrants some like declaring Casimero as the winner by TKO.

Have to lock the thread in the next few hours and as usual thanks to all of you who shared your ideas/speculations on this thread but unfortunately no one here makes some money with this fight as it was declared a "no contest". 

He does not look like a bad guy because fans are blaming Akaho for being an actor, besides, what is written in the link share was it was accidentally hit at the back of the head, which means not intentional. Casimero will eventually find a great opponent, someone that could fight with him toe to toe until the end.

Yes you are right that mate and in the eyes of Fans of Akaho then casimero is a bad guy and we can not disagree with that because that is their point of view. But if we take or review the fight it we all know that is not intentionally but akaho is a good actor then the fight goes to not contest fight. And I think that it's better for casimero to find some good opponent that can fight him toe to toe and the last man standing is a winner.
We do able to see those solid punches made by Casimero which do really hurt up Akaho which he had been pushed through in the ropes and it was just that timing that he had made out that hit on the back of the head but if it was really that hurting then he had made out that reaction on point and not on few seconds and trying out to pause the game or fight and making out some complaints.

Its totally unprofessional and just like the rest been saying that he's a good actor.He did make that fight to have "no contest".I wont be surprised that Akaho fans would
really be that seeing Casimero as the bad guy but not all totally because we arent blind on what actually happened during that fight.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Akaho - December 3
Post by: Yaunfitda on December 06, 2022, 09:04:53 PM
And I heard that there are many conspiracies behind this fight, that they don't want Casimero to win etc. And then the South Korean board will review and make an overturn of the decision to NC to a win by Casimero, but everything is just a theory.

But in any case it was really on the side of Akaho here, just for the record though, Akaho is a Japanese and this fight is in South Korea. I initially thought as well that the fight is made in Japan, Akaho's hometown, but I'm wrong because it is not. Akaho's manager is a South Korean and that's why the fight is held there.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Akaho - December 3
Post by: Baofeng on December 06, 2022, 11:20:24 PM
And I heard that there are many conspiracies behind this fight, that they don't want Casimero to win etc. And then the South Korean board will review and make an overturn of the decision to NC to a win by Casimero, but everything is just a theory.

But in any case it was really on the side of Akaho here, just for the record though, Akaho is a Japanese and this fight is in South Korea. I initially thought as well that the fight is made in Japan, Akaho's hometown, but I'm wrong because it is not. Akaho's manager is a South Korean and that's why the fight is held there.

I don't think there are conspiracies around like that they don't want Casimero to win or maybe sign a new contract with a promoter or something. Saw this on some Youtube, so I doubt that this is the case here.

It was just Akaho who acted alone for me, unless this conspiracies are proven.

We all see what happen, Casimero was about to give him the worst beating of his boxing career and he just says "no mas" to John Riel.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Akaho - December 3
Post by: ultrloa on December 06, 2022, 11:26:56 PM
And I heard that there are many conspiracies behind this fight, that they don't want Casimero to win etc. And then the South Korean board will review and make an overturn of the decision to NC to a win by Casimero, but everything is just a theory.

But in any case it was really on the side of Akaho here, just for the record though, Akaho is a Japanese and this fight is in South Korea. I initially thought as well that the fight is made in Japan, Akaho's hometown, but I'm wrong because it is not. Akaho's manager is a South Korean and that's why the fight is held there.

I don't think there are conspiracies around like that they don't want Casimero to win or maybe sign a new contract with a promoter or something. Saw this on some Youtube, so I doubt that this is the case here.

It was just Akaho who acted alone for me, unless this conspiracies are proven.

We all see what happen, Casimero was about to give him the worst beating of his boxing career and he just says "no mas" to John Riel.

Actually that's what I think in the first impression after how the fight ended and how the referee act towards the match. Casimero's career has been doomed by controversy created by his past management so maybe there's something nasty manipulation happening here. But we don't have evidence to prove that such thing happening but let see the development of Casimero's career if he can get big fight after this.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Akaho - December 3
Post by: LUCKMCFLY on December 07, 2022, 12:28:23 AM
Good thing he realized that he cannot handle powerful punches anymore, but Donaire is always better than him because although it was clear that he can't carry the punches of Inoue, but still he choose to continue, this guy (AKaho) choose to make excuses and the result was in his favor.
Casimero is really dominating, in 2 rounds we can see Casimero landed clean and strong punch to Akaho's face, it's just unfortunate that Casimero accidentally punch back of Akaho's head, I think it's not that strong too. Actually the fight can be continued even though Casimero get reduction on his point, but I'm pretty sure Casimero will win via Knock Out before sixth round. There's many fights where someone punch their opponent back for one time, but the fight isn't cancelled.

This is really weird, very strange, in boxing these things shouldn't happen, sometimes a blow like that is something that normally a boxer wouldn't stop, I don't know if it's because Akaho felt lost and wanted to do things like that, but that He speaks very badly of him, now what will happen? Will he have to wait for the most convenient result of Inoue's fight? What can benefit Casimero at this time? That is why Casimero must learn to shut his mouth, because sometimes he must swallow his words, now if Inoue beats Butler he may want or not want to fight Casimero, it is something that we are not completely sure of.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Akaho - December 3
Post by: Kelvinid on December 07, 2022, 03:41:23 AM
Good thing he realized that he cannot handle powerful punches anymore, but Donaire is always better than him because although it was clear that he can't carry the punches of Inoue, but still he choose to continue, this guy (AKaho) choose to make excuses and the result was in his favor.
Casimero is really dominating, in 2 rounds we can see Casimero landed clean and strong punch to Akaho's face, it's just unfortunate that Casimero accidentally punch back of Akaho's head, I think it's not that strong too. Actually the fight can be continued even though Casimero get reduction on his point, but I'm pretty sure Casimero will win via Knock Out before sixth round. There's many fights where someone punch their opponent back for one time, but the fight isn't cancelled.

This is really weird, very strange, in boxing these things shouldn't happen, sometimes a blow like that is something that normally a boxer wouldn't stop, I don't know if it's because Akaho felt lost and wanted to do things like that, but that He speaks very badly of him, now what will happen? Will he have to wait for the most convenient result of Inoue's fight? What can benefit Casimero at this time? That is why Casimero must learn to shut his mouth, because sometimes he must swallow his words, now if Inoue beats Butler he may want or not want to fight Casimero, it is something that we are not completely sure of.


Whatever Akaho said, it cannot convince the boxing community that it was an intentional hit in the back of his head. It was very clear that he was already struggling in accepting the punches of Casimero, in the 2nd round, we saw a mismatch fight where Akaho trying to be aggressive but Casimero is well prepared with his heavy counter punches.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Akaho - December 3
Post by: Oasisman on December 07, 2022, 04:38:03 AM
That was actually a smart move from Akaho, but yeah he's definitely got hurt by the flurry of strong punches coming from Casimero that rocks Akaho prior to that behind the head punch.
I can't say anything bad about Akaho as we really don't know if how hurt he was though those punches did not hit him directly at the back of his head, but those would definitely hurt. Nevertheless, he used that as an excuse to force a no contest, but he really got hurt with those clean punches.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Akaho - December 3
Post by: Natalim on December 07, 2022, 06:04:41 AM
That was actually a smart move from Akaho, but yeah he's definitely got hurt by the flurry of strong punches coming from Casimero that rocks Akaho prior to that behind the head punch.
I can't say anything bad about Akaho as we really don't know if how hurt he was though those punches did not hit him directly at the back of his head, but those would definitely hurt. Nevertheless, he used that as an excuse to force a no contest, but he really got hurt with those clean punches.

I don't think it's a smart move, if his intention was to save himself from losing the fight, then I guess it's called cheating, and you can see how people react, instead of favorite Akaho, they are calling him the best actor in a negative way. This is boxing, the purpose of the fight was to entertain us, but are we entertained?


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Akaho - December 3
Post by: Shamm on December 07, 2022, 10:42:50 AM
That was actually a smart move from Akaho, but yeah he's definitely got hurt by the flurry of strong punches coming from Casimero that rocks Akaho prior to that behind the head punch.
I can't say anything bad about Akaho as we really don't know if how hurt he was though those punches did not hit him directly at the back of his head, but those would definitely hurt. Nevertheless, he used that as an excuse to force a no contest, but he really got hurt with those clean punches.
As we can see the face of akaho it already speaks that casimero broke his face with a clean punch. And then the referee told that incident then akaho    use that to make the fight Into No contest fight. But for me it's not a good for him as we all know that once a boxer he must fight until he can and not to surrender. But I know that akaho did that it because he can't fight casimero anymore because of the punches by casimero.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Akaho - December 3
Post by: Dave1 on December 07, 2022, 10:46:23 AM
And I heard that there are many conspiracies behind this fight, that they don't want Casimero to win etc. And then the South Korean board will review and make an overturn of the decision to NC to a win by Casimero, but everything is just a theory.

But in any case it was really on the side of Akaho here, just for the record though, Akaho is a Japanese and this fight is in South Korea. I initially thought as well that the fight is made in Japan, Akaho's hometown, but I'm wrong because it is not. Akaho's manager is a South Korean and that's why the fight is held there.

I don't think there are conspiracies around like that they don't want Casimero to win or maybe sign a new contract with a promoter or something. Saw this on some Youtube, so I doubt that this is the case here.

It was just Akaho who acted alone for me, unless this conspiracies are proven.

We all see what happen, Casimero was about to give him the worst beating of his boxing career and he just says "no mas" to John Riel.

Actually that's what I think in the first impression after how the fight ended and how the referee act towards the match. Casimero's career has been doomed by controversy created by his past management so maybe there's something nasty manipulation happening here. But we don't have evidence to prove that such thing happening but let see the development of Casimero's career if he can get big fight after this.

Yes, speculation that his previous promoter MP, has something to do with it, but I highly doubt that they will influence or can influence the outcome, that's just hearsay or yeah just pure talk without any basis. They just want to make noises though because of how the fight ended.

For sure Casimero and his camp has gotten over the situation by now because I see him in Thailand already trying to unwind before maybe going home to his home country of Philippines.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Akaho - December 3
Post by: Fredomago on December 07, 2022, 08:38:03 PM
That was actually a smart move from Akaho, but yeah he's definitely got hurt by the flurry of strong punches coming from Casimero that rocks Akaho prior to that behind the head punch.
I can't say anything bad about Akaho as we really don't know if how hurt he was though those punches did not hit him directly at the back of his head, but those would definitely hurt. Nevertheless, he used that as an excuse to force a no contest, but he really got hurt with those clean punches.
As we can see the face of akaho it already speaks that casimero broke his face with a clean punch. And then the referee told that incident then akaho    use that to make the fight Into No contest fight. But for me it's not a good for him as we all know that once a boxer he must fight until he can and not to surrender. But I know that akaho did that it because he can't fight casimero anymore because of the punches by casimero.

He received a lot of criticism and we all know what happened, that excuse only to justify that he can't handle Casimero's solid punches; he managed to take down Casimero, and he thinks that he will be able to win this match, but when Casimero start being aggressive, he feels what Casimero can do to him, nothing but to find ways to avoid being knock down in front of his fans/fellowmen.

But unfortunately, knowing how Japanese fighter accept their fate, he show's the culture differently. Sad but it's true, he act like a coward in front of the Japanese viewers.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Akaho - December 3
Post by: bisdak40 on December 08, 2022, 05:11:52 AM
Actually that's what I think in the first impression after how the fight ended and how the referee act towards the match. Casimero's career has been doomed by controversy created by his past management so maybe there's something nasty manipulation happening here. But we don't have evidence to prove that such thing happening but let see the development of Casimero's career if he can get big fight after this.

Speaking of future fights, there are already offers from other promoters for Casimero to fight as per his cutman Stephen Lunas. They still have to wait for the outcome of the review if the result of the fight against Akaho will be overturned and declare Casimero as the winner then the team will still be under the Treasure Boxing Promotion but if the decision stays then they will look for other promoters.

Bottomline, Casimero will get big fights against big names in this division in the near future.