Bitcoin Forum

Is KYC verification very important to crypto gambling websites or this has something to do with their regulations rule? Where can one gamble with zero verification requirements?

Sorry to say kyc is one thing important in gambling site to avoid money laundering and any mal activities which might likely happened. So as a gambler you should be prepare for revealing your personal identity or going through verifications processes.
I don't really see any laws holding you not to pass the verification process or maybe you are not wanting to gamble, most gambling site I have came across with always source for kyc details.

Is the gambling site centralized? Most successful crypto gambling sites are centralized. That means you have to register on the site, the gambling site will give you address to pay in, they control the private keys of the addresses given you. Even if they do not ask for KYC at first place during deposit, they may ask for KYC when you want to withdraw, which is common to gambling sites. Even if you are not asked to KYC during withdrawal, they might block your account and ask for KYC at anytime which would be disappointing if you are not expecting that. The reason for KYC is for AML, CTF and to reduce other online criminal activities.

There are a few reasons why, from money laundering to age verification to prevention of multiple accounts to other probable reasons. The most important one though as to why they need to implement KYC is the country in which they're registered since each country has a specific law or rule about casinos, KYC being one of them. It's also the reason why some countries can't access some casinos, it's simply part of their law. Afaik it also considers the law about gambling that the user is under in.

Some casinos don't require KYC, but some do. Here's a thread with a big list of casinos that indicate whether they have KYC or not

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5381143.0 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5381143.0)

In crypto casinos (except the ones where KYC is mandatory) it's not so important if you don't gamble with huge capital. I play in several casinos for years without any verifications, you only need a mail and google authenticator, in some casinos you need it for withdrawing.

Maybe there are crypto casinos with zero KYC tolerance, but I am not sure about that. In ToS you will always find "Casino reserves the right to ask for additional info if they suspect you are involved in something shady"! As a fair player, without some big deposits/withdrawals, not even one casino asked me for additional verification... I play in casinos you can find on this forum, these casinos have their ANN threads so you can check them by yourself.

KYC is only needed if you exceed a certain amount of money in withdrawing,for amounts up to 0.05 Bitcoin now that the price is cheap and is less than 1000 dollars most casinos,even reputable ones won't ask you any KYC verification or whatsoever but once you bypass this limit and for example ask a withdrawal of 0.25 or up in Bitcoin then all of the reputable casinos will ask you some form of KYC,it is specified in their terms and conditions so most probably any user should read them in the casino they are playing before depositing money in there.

If you are a Big roller then the chance of being asked about KYC verification is indeed, and also there are several occasions that even with small amount if you are found to be cheating or abusing the site will be having this,
But overall as far as my experience is concern? never that i was asked to provide KYC and I wonder why, or maybe I am an honest and not dealing with any illegalities in their sites.
so expect this to happen or never deal with any only specially crypto site at all.

I'd say that for all licensed casinos, even if it is a Curacao KYC is a must regardless if payments are in crypto or FIAT. However, some casinos breach this at their risk. Rather soon all Curacao licensed casinos will start requesting KYC one the account deposit / cashout turnover reaches $2K or equivalent in any currency and enhanced due diligence once $15K is hit. Question is when, but sooner or later it will happen

It is not just important but it is also essential for regulatory purposes. Due to the emergence of the popularity of online gambling websites, the government took the opportunity to tax it for revenue purposes and regulation. The most regulation that they can implement is to mandate these online gambling websites to provide KYC identification to its users.

If possible, operating without KYC is the ideal situation since most users consider this as a "make or break" feature but these companies have no other choice but to comply with strict regulations imposed by the government.

Maybe you will not be asked to do KYC for the first time you join a casino site. But after you win some money and want to withdraw the winning money, you will be asked to do KYC, especially if the winning money is big. So KYC verification seems to have become common for crypto casinos due to the government's desire to regulate all fiat and crypto casinos. So forget about that and if you don't want to lose a lot of money, you should control the use of your money in gambling.

You cannot find it with "Centralized Casino" like a website register.

They always required you "KYC" even at the time your register is not being asked for "KYC" but in some time if there has some case. They can freely to ask you "KYC" anytime, that's why never trust a casino who offering you "NO KYC". Because 95% of casino will ask you "KYC" based on term & condition.

If you want "Zero KYC" without being ask, you should gamble with on-chain gambling. Like smart-contract, but most of them is not quite popular or the game is really limited example like On-chain Dice or Lottery (Like in PancakeSwap) they will never ask you KYC.

It's a rather common hoax, but in reality this has nothing to do with regulation otherwise they would require it for every customers like exchanges are doing, and casinos without KYC wouldn't exist. Actually it's just a scammy practice to avoid paying winnings to players who managed to make some profits and to prevent them from opening a new account when they've banned them or restricted their account. If you are a bad player constantly losing his deposits, they will never ask you anything.
There is an incomplete list of casinos that don't require KYC in this thread https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5381143 Some are missing like Nitro betting though.

KYC may not be really a great thing for the casino as well because they may lose few customers who want to be with complete anonymity but casinos has to comply KYC due to AML policies by governments and that is the sole reason why they are pushed to implement KYC in the recent times.

Yes, there are some crypto gambling sites with no mandatory KYC for now but if you take a look at their ToS they you may find the casino has right to ask about KYC, source of funds, etc at anytime if they feel the user has something suspicious and also they may ask when the security finds the user is accessing from restricted country which is also mentioned in their ToS.

Casinos asking for KYC is sort of a protection to their business as well obeying what government mandate to them. So there is nothing else can be done, you just need to submit especially if you want to withdraw the large amount you have in the platform.

If you want to play with no KYC, there are decentralized casinos on ETH, TRON or EOS platform.

Dicether.com for example uses smart contract based state channel implementation to provide a fast, secure and provably fair gambling.

not all gambling platforms require you to KYC. Usually, if something suspicious happens with your account activity, of course, Casino has the right to ask you to verify documents. We know some of the problems from the news in the past, regarding money laundering using gambling platforms. Some casinos apply such rules to reduce the risk of malicious users taking advantage of events and bets at the casino.

I'm not sure why you have a problem with KYC. are you underage? or is there a problem with your data that has been blacklisted from several casinos?

it is meant to prevent money laundering, protect the casinos from account abuse which happens a lot, etc... also, if they acquire a gambling license they might require to ask for KYC because it is part of the regulation the license has.

sure you can. Wexnident shared a link showing what casino does require and does not require KYC, you can check the thread he shared if you are interested.

They certainly have their own rules because anyone can have the right to do KYC if the casino is suspicious of it and indeed at first they said there was no KYC for them but it became a problem for the casino because of suspicious activities like other people said then the casino is entitled to all that, so I think the casino certainly has an obligation as to if it is necessary for a document to be requested.
So for me there is no casino that is completely zero KYC, so almost all have implemented this system and in the FAQ it always says "KYC when needed with something" so there is nothing we can do unless we do it.
But for small gamblers we can still use KYC zero casino.

It's important to them and also has something to do with what they're complying with as they're registered enterprises.

It came from the Duelbits rep as it's posted by someone on their thread who has asked them if they won't ask for KYC. And the response is yes, they won't ask you KYC as long as there's nothing to be complied about and you're not that huge depositor and gambler.

This is a complex matter because hen you say protected by the law it means the law of the country where the license was provided and in most of the scenarios that's the Curaçao laws. And if we want to sue a casino we have to do it in that place which is almost impossible for 99% of the gamblers.

A license doesn't makes me feel protected by the law, i prefer to trust on a provably fair engine than a licensed gambling site who doesn't give a verify option on their games.

Don't tell BS here, in the gambling section please. How KYC could be an assurance for customers? I don't understand. In the scam accusation section and here we always hear about scams from casino requiring KYC, while we never hear about scams from casino not asking KYC. When I play on Freebitcoin for example I feel safe because I know I will be able to withdraw my winnings without any issue while when I play on a casino that can require KYC, I don't feel that way at all because I guess they will ask me KYC if I win too much and they will maybe refuse my documents to keep my funds like many people are reporting all over the web.

  - If there are online cryptocurrency gambling sites that ask for KYC, I think they do it for the security of their players' assets and to prevent multiple accounts. And besides, I also think that gambling platforms with KYC requirements are safer compared to those without KYC requirements, I will repeat that this is just my own opinion, I don't know about others here.

Although, there are others who don't ask for KYC but it is safe anyway, just that the risk is higher compared to centralized cryptocurrency casinos.

KYC verification is pointless since there's a people who can create fake KYC or using someone KYC. Most casinos who ask KYC is a licensed casino which mean they need to follow the regulations, while unlicensed casino it's up to them for ask KYC or not.

If you want to gamble with zero chance of being asked to provide KYC, it's Freebitco.in since there's no rule if they will ask your KYC in any cases. If you're broke their rules, they just simply terminated your account.

Must of the successful casino platform is centralized platform and all centralized platform always keep kyc verification system to avoid many illegal work like Money laundering. so you will not found any Zero kyc site. But many site can give you some facilities like you can use there platform without kyc with low deposit but if you want to use high deposit and withdraw then you must complete  kyc.

It is clear that mandatory KYC at first glance somewhat repels players, but on closer examination, if you are a law-abiding and honest player, then KYC for you can be a kind of guarantee in case of disputes with a gambling platform, which an online casino excluding KYC cannot guarantee.

I think money laundering, age restriction, multiple accounts and some other violations are the reasons why KYC on gambling platforms is implemented. After all it is a rule that casinos may have to comply with when they wish to apply for a license to operate in a country. KYC is great to prevent abuse, but certainly not for those who prioritize privacy.

Thanks for this.

obviously it is very important and it seems that almost all gambling sites on average use KYC, especially if you do play with big money and want to make a deposit or withdraw big money of course you have to do KYC on the gambling site, all of that to prevent money laundering, but maybe if you really want to try a gambling site without kYC it doesn't seem like a safe and official gambling site in my opinion, so you should use a gambling site that is official and really safe and reliable, you may need to visit the gambling site that I use in my signature

To operate in different countries, you need to abide by the rules, and depending on the crypto regulations, of course, it would be dependent if they would impose the ruling on KYC. I think it’s better to legitimately go to the regulated one so that you could prevent future problems with a clearing where you got that money or anything related to that.

Nowadays we've seen gambling websites issuing KYC on their platforms but it has something to do within the country jurisdiction they are into, they're just following rules and regulations. There are still plenty of gambling sites that offers few requirements but saying zero means that will be too rare to find these days wherein there's no verification requirements with even just SMS's OTP or other similar stuffs.

There are multiple websites available where you wouldn't require KYC to play and win. However, every online casino has a tolerance limit. If you play and win within their tolerance limit, you should not have any problem. However, if you suddenly win a huge amount of money, they may ask for KYC documents. Even reputable casino does this to comply with local money laundering law. So having KYC requirement is not always bad. However, if you gamble with a small amount of money, then no casino should have a problem and they will never ask for KYC. Stay active in this gambling forum and you will understand which casinos are good and which casinos are problematic.

There are many threads available to answer this particular query op. Coming to your question, very few crypto gambling sites are strictly zero KYC platforms who actually enforce it without any sort of bullshit whatsoever.

Some examples that come to my mind are betting exchanges like Fairlay, sportsbooks like Sportsbet.io etc. These recommendations are solely based on my experience with them.

Some crypto casinos KYC are required, some other casinos KYC are not required, there are also crypto casinos that require KYC when withdrawals are outside of their rules, for example: withdrawal max $10k without kyc but the user wants to withdraw money/crypto above $10k, most likely kyc is required to prevent things that are not wanted or harm one party or both parties.

For this reason, KYC verification is important or not depending on the rules of the online casino, but you can still choose the two options and make it easier for you to gamble, in this forum there are casinos that don't need kyc only you use Authenticator (2FA) only, without kyc, the choice is yours, definitely kyc or not, if not sure about kyc, choose an online casino that uses the (2FA) method, nothing compel.

It's not that important for a casino because it can scare some clients away. It's important for the governments and if a casino wants to be registered in a certain country it has to be compliant with the laws.
So it's a ladder where those above demand something from those below and the lower you are the more risk you take. A business owner has to comply with the law and is going to be checked by the government, but you, the end user, is the one that is risking identity theft.

Casinos ask users for KYC in certain cases if we withdraw funds beyond the tolerance limit and suspicious account activity to the point of potentially having to complete KYC for account verification, I agree that the top casinos promoted in the forums still have a withdrawal tolerance limit so we don't have to worry about verification KYC because we can still gamble at the casino without worrying about completing KYC.

When you are licensed or being regulated then expect that casino platforms would be asking verification or KYC but there are ones who doesnt impose it strictly which does simply means that you could play without any

problems or verifications as long you arent doing something shady which would poke out their security measures.But on the time that you are already making out deposits then this is where verification do happens.Why?

Since these platforms are regulated then of course government or regulators do always monitor out when it comes to money laundering.This had always be the main reason
on speaking or talking about KYC requirement.

Essentially it is less about knowing the casino is safe and more about understanding that KYC generally symbolizes that the owners live in jurisdictions which might start to pursue them if things end up badly. It should not be relied on by itself and you should definitely get a "feel" for whether the process is being handled in the most professional manner, because you are essentially handing over very sensitive and important copies of documents that could be used to commit fraud against you if falling into the wrong hands. I actually feel safer going through such a process, as long as everything else about the gambling site fits - but it's something you only get a feel for after quite a bit of practice.

I beg to differ. I believe we all remember when binance (since you mentioned exchanges as example) used to let their customers use their services without identity verification as long as they don't withdraw more than 1btc/day, if memory serves me well. This changed when binance become more popular. It's just a matter of time before all crypto casinos start enforcing kyc, too.
But I agree with the second part of your comment. Most of them use this kyc thing to scam their customers.

Most gambling casinos require users passing KYC just to comply with regulations laws as well as protect their platform and their users from money launders.

There are currently many casinos that will claim to be a zero KYC casino, but I will advice you not to trust any of them as they can ask a user to pass kyc verification at any given point, most especially when the user wins or tries to withdraw a significant amount of money, so better take note of this and always have your documents ready for such circumstances.

We don't need to look for other alternative casinos even though they offer zero KYC but they end up also requiring users to KYC verification. In addition, new casinos are at high risk because they do not yet have the reputation and trust of the community, so the factors are asset freezing, unfair gambling, unfriendly, etc. So there is no reason for new casino options to avoid KYC.

This is not something that most casinos would have liked to implement but since those are the regulations passed by the governments then they will under some circumstances ask for your information, in fact there has been cases of casinos which claimed they will not ever ask for any kind of verification but eventually they gave up and they now ask for that information, so unfortunately I think we are slowly reaching the point in which it is impossible to gamble in this market without identifying yourself.

Expect this to most gambling sites with gaming license.
However, some of these licensed casinos are not asking their players' their kyc if you are a small roller.
Some of them are stating in their ToS that if your deposit is below $2k, they won't ask KYC.
But if you have big winnings, expect that they may require you to submit your docs before withdrawal.
Non-licensed casinos usually don't ask KYC, but the possibility of being screwed is always there.
So it is your choice if you want to play in a trustworthy casino or not.

You can't be using many gambling websites without verification forever, and if you win big amount of money all the time, than you are probably going to be asked to verify.
For me best casino I know is Sportsbet for betting on sport events, but you have to accept risk with all gambling websites you are using.
I had bad experience with fortunejack so I don't recommend them because they can ask verification for withdrawing low amount of coins.
If you want to be totally sure than you can create p2p betting system with your friends or in forum using trusted third member as escrow.

I personally used to be so interested in casinos with zero KYC policies, but after several experiences with different casinos on what I explained above, I simply gave up, right now, the wisest thing to do (which I've done) is to look for a casino with good reputation, pass kyc verification and start playing there, atleast, with a reputable casino, a user is 70 ot 80 percent sure his or her documents are safe   that the documents won't be sold out to third parties for monetary gains, which is what some small casinos do with their customers kyc documents.

^It is tested that the most successful gambling casinos were centralized gambling casinos which they are obeying which jurisdiction they have been registered. KYC has a good impact on any financial institution, it lessens all kinds of cybercrime because of this KYC procedure, no more abusing alt accounts, no more money laundering and even scamming other players, because your real identity has been exposed, and anytime you can trace.
However, we have still a lot of decentralized gambling casinos, but choose only those that give transparency which is publicly seen to easy to verify others.

Basically, it's not so important if you were only using small amounts for that but since if you are using big amounts of money for that and the platform may need to know the source from the platform. I think that some platforms have been mentioning this rule in their website too. I meant they must be compliance with the regulation sometimes. The only problem when platform was using this power to abuse its users. I meant after its users win lots of money and they unable to withdraw it due to the strict KYC requirement.

It's one way for them to detect multi accounts so it's still important even though it's related to the regulations. Nitrobetting (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5337610.0) doesn't require KYC but I haven't tried their gambling site yet since I couldn't access their site these past several weeks. This thread (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5415969.0) might also help since both of you asked the same question and are looking for gambling sites without KYC.

KYC is not much of an issue for gamblers who are betting with small amounts. But when a gambler gambles with large amounts, he has to compulsorily do KYC. It is not an issue of any casino authority it can be said to be a law of the government of that country. But some online casinos rules the rules so that a gambler can gamble without KYC.

A lot of casinos don't ask KYC unless you are a high roller. If you don't wanna test every casino for thier TOS, you can just search each casino whether they have had KYC issues before. You'd be more confident to bet on those with no issues and scam accusations. The best that you can do if you are just protecting your identity I think is just don't deposit a huge amount.

Thats true. Many casinos are still not asking for kyc if you're just an average gambler. Often, it's for whale gamblers who are using huge money to gamble and they're strict when it comes withdrawal. Expect for a verification if you exceeds the certain limit, hence gamblers must be prepared for this scenario to happen. Casinos need to abide the law of the Government to operate legally, as you have pointed out, this is for the benefit of the casino and the gamblers.

I see no reason why anyone with clear intentions, should be running away from KYC especially on a reputable platform, expect your intentions aren't genuine enough. Most sites which has to do with money most times gets to ask for KYC to avoid malicious activities and criminality on its sites. But There are other sites that wouldn't ask fo KYC initially for some little deposit but as time goes on, and your balance increases, there might be restrictions on your account which might require KYC.

I think it's because we as crypto gamblers, want to hide in gambling without having to reveal our identity, even to the casino. That's why many crypto gambling players are always looking for casinos that don't have strict regulations on KYC. But now that the government has started interacting with gambling businesses and license holders are also telling casinos to KYC their users, I think it will be difficult for crypto gamblers to hide. Sooner or later, we all have to comply but that doesn't mean that casinos without KYC or not having strict regulations will disappear because there will be casinos like that because they understand the desires of crypto gamblers.

I am in favor of doing KYC on gambling. It's good to do it. However, the importance of the KYC is made on a scam site can bring the danger. Those who do not impose obligation to do the KYC do not usually follow the rules of casino or gambling platform. Which can have a negative impact in some cases.

While there are non-KYC online gambling casinos which have provably fair decentralized protocols handling the chain. So this way there is no third party present and gambling regulations take a dive into a grey area. But nobody can guarantee that you will not lose your money due to a hack or something.

That being said, the KYC not only protects the online casino but also you, in the case that something goes wrong or your money goes missing. You can prove that money belonged to you and the centralized casino will be responsible, legally, for paying you back.

But reality is often different. So you need to understand that both options have risks and choose the best option for you.

Regulations are the best reason why they slowly implementing KYC on their platform. A site might be ok not to put any KYC at first but upon reading most of the terms and conditions, they are requiring KYC if you are going to transact big money with them and that is because of the regulations and protection for the site itself. KYC slowly becoming one of the requirement, better to learn how to deal with it.

I think that pretty much every industry would rather not have to deal with regulations if given the choice. It takes their time and costs them money to develop solutions. Not to mention additional staff to enforce these solutions. So I doubt they do it because they like to go through additional steps to run their businesses. You have to be legal if you want to stay in business though, so it is what it is.

From what I understand companies that handle customer money are forced by governments to require customers to KYC to make it easier to prevent customers from laundering money, but what I wonder is if governments do inspections on these exchanges or casinos. So that I really know if the casino or exchange is complying with KYC or not. this is a question i have been asking myself


 ???

nowadays thinking that you are going to create an account at a casino and they will not ask you for KYC even if the casino is not asking for KYC at the time of creating an account and they would only ask if they detect any suspicious activity and it is a mistake to relax and think that you will not do KYC, whenever you create an account at the casino you have to be prepared to do KYC

^Definitely right and legalities are the most successful business now in any business field.
If you want to stay in that business in a legal way, it is a part now to have a KYC to follow in which jurisdiction you become legal. Let us accept the fact that from now on, KYC or centralized gambling asks for KYC and we have nothing to do with this. All we have to do is to pick a gambling casino that has a reputation where we can entrust our personal information.

Once you do sent out your information or docs on a certain platform then you should had accepted the risk involved for possible exploits and exposure of those information throughout the net.

It might not happen precisely but we know that odds or chances is there which i cant really blame out other people on not to mind off about these particular scenarios or conditions.

KYC is already been turn out to be a standard procedure.Any business been built would really be subjective on regulation which simply means that they are following
certain rules which they do really need to apply out.

I also think the same thing, what can refute a good gaming platform is the annoying KYC, and if any casino gets rid of that annoying thing, it would be almost a feat, but seeing how the whole trend is going in casinos, regulations, new rules, the acceptance of crypto in the world will be something very difficult to do, thanks to such regulations is that we can say that a casino that has few rules due to its KYC is really almost impossible, I trust the casinos that have more reputation , but it scares me to trust casinos that are new and that can make a scam from one moment to another and keep my data.

Casinos especially those which have a good reputation to uphold most likely will ask for your information at some point in time if you bet enough money on their platform.

I know that many people are not really happy about this as they were used to gamble anonymously for years in this market, but things are changing and this is a trend I do not think it is going to be reversed any time soon, and we do not really have any other option but to adapt to it.

Reversed? Well, I think it will be exactly the opposite. As the years go by, casinos that do not require KYC will be reduced to a minimum, if not disappear altogether.

We come from a time when Bitcoin and cryptocurrency casinos were like the Wild West, but as civilization progresses, there is more control.

If I were you mate? best to embrace that KYC thing when you gamble in crypto because this will add security ,and also as Only few legit casino remains that does not implement regulations about KYC as they are required? or they are requiring their players specially when there is a  big withdrawals.

but either way, Best to comply once asked or let your funds be there forever  ;D :D

I can briefly summarize how this works in my country (Central Europe).

As soon as you withdraw the coins (i.e. exchange them for EUR and deposit them at a bank), checks are run for certain amounts, starting at €100 at some banks. The banks want an exact list of where the money comes from and also check this in detail. If a gambling platform appears in the list and does not require KYC, the entire deposit can be blocked, so you can no longer get your money.
By the way, the same can happen to you if you use a mixing service ...

Some people want to keep themselves anonymous in playing gambling also personal details now is hard to give due to have different connections into our accounts such as social media, back and etc. that's why some of them would like to prevent playing with KYC but now some of the gambling casino only providing a level 1 KYC so you don't need to submit some of the information can be use, but having a KYC is one of the factor today in terms of having trouble with their account that's why its more convenient to use as verification for the users, to prevent too getting abuse the current system.

As much as I love to do my KYC to avoid problems, I still avoid the casinos that would allow me to deposit without it so that they could disturb me later. Such practice annoys me sincerely, and I want you to know that many of them are under jurisdictions where gambling regulations are weak, they only use KYC to cover up. And some only registered without a regulator but still ask for your KYC because they are looking for accounts to block and money to steal, not that they care about any law.

It's for regulation and compliance, a casino that is abiding by existing regulations and is compliant with their license is trustworthy and reputable, they ask for KYC so they will not accuse of entertaining money launderers and they respect the laws of every country so they do not accept gamblers from countries where gambling is illegal, you can hardly find one that is KYC tolerance if there is, you have to check their reputation, they cannot be compliant and at the same time reputable and legal.

Yes of course, for now the KYC verification process is important in almost all popular gambling sites.
Almost all countries have regulated the KYC process, an important requirement for registration or withdrawal of assets on gambling sites.
As far as I know, the current KYC process is like a standard for gambling sites to make regulations for gamblers or their clients.
In addition to the process of identifying the customer's age and authenticity of identity.
In this digital era they also want to minimize customers who use crypto assets as shields for illicit activities,
such as money laundering, corruption, terrorism financing or other illegal activities.

KYC is not very important for gamblers if I say about it but for gambling sites, KYC is very important if they really are following the regulation if they are a licensed gambling site which there is a rule that they had to follow. One of it is avoiding their gambling site to be used as a platform for illegal matters such as money laundering. I am sure that you know that money laundering is illegal which is why they have to implement KYC and required KYC if a gambler withdraw a huge amount of money from their platform.

Yeah but they can't stay away from the regulation. I meant they can be taken down anytime as per request by the regulators. There's no choice rather than dealing with it. The fact that if these days people were not having a lot of choice rather than being fully compliant with regulation that already issued by the regulators. I think that the platform understand and that's why they were implementing KYC

If he played in a trusted casino, maybe doing KYC would be okay and could protect him by providing security for the customers. But I think the situation will be different if he plays in a casino that doesn't know if it's trusted or even if the casino is new because those will have a risk. After all, we have seen many examples of cases.

Yes, maybe it's better to obey the rules of the casino so that it won't give us problems later, especially if we want to withdraw the money.

KYC verification is very important to crypto gambling sites because their operations depend on it to a certain extent. They are bound to follow the rules which they agree with when they registered and secured their license.

I don't think the same crypto gambling sites would implement KYC if they're not compelled by regulations. While they comply, they're probably hesitant. After all, it is quite ironic for them to ask for personal information when they're involved in crypto.

Anyway, please refer to this very helpful thread (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5381143.msg58974603#msg58974603) by Mahdirakib as regards verification requirements among crypto gambling platforms.

Benefit of the casino only you mean. Money launders can't harm the players inside the gambling site but they can only harm the reputation of the casino and the casino don't want that to happen because that can affect their business.

Scammers can be avoided easily because their tactics are now very common to detect but if there are gamblers who still got scammed then it must be their fault already because they are too dumb or they don't read information online if how to avoid them. Submitting KYC doesn't automatically make you secure. I've seen lots of sites which has a KYC and they still got hacked. It will only add up to the headache of the customer.

Most crypto gambling casinos out here are really hesitant on asking KYC verification to each and every users they have and some of them have already expressed it on the forum. If I am correct, they rather not proceed with the KYC requirements if they aren't only required to do so for regulations purposes.

This is also why most casino that we visit doesn't require users for KYC verification unless they are required to do so such as possible violation on the platforms. We can also check that thread to know more on when casino are requiring their users to do KYC.

http://ltccasino.com/ - no any KYC required, all others casino, if u dep in crypto ask for a lot of docs and source of funds if u got lucky...

It's not one of the cores for casinos, but KYC verifications are important with regulations, usually to avoid money laundering and other illegal activities which possibly uses these kind of platform to move the funds.
Recently, I've seen some new casino who says that they won't have any KYC on their site. I forgot which one. And I wonder how are they doing right now.

You've said a very good point here hut nevertheless we cannot overlooked the need for some gamblers to demand for a no KYC casino to gamble, i think this has to do with choice from the gambler's end, if you will consider it that nowadays everyone want to go with casinos that requires no KYC but even those that requires it, that isn't enough to apprehend gambler's abuse on their system or the gambling itself, both the good and the bad has always been in existence right from time.

The new casinos seem illegal because they violate government regulations to prevent money laundering and other crimes, the casinos are deliberately promoting to prioritize the anonymity factor to recruit anti-kyc gamblers, so anyone who bets on that platform should be careful because they have an anonymous team who cannot detected if they carry out scammer activity. So the top centralized gambling platforms have KYC request rules but still provide a tolerance limit for low withdrawals without having to KYC.

KYC is both important and at the same time has to do with the regulation rule.  As we know there are lots of bonus and promotion exploiters and KYC is one of the preventive measures of a casino to minimize this kind of cheating.  While the government imposes KYC for AML, casino has comply to have a smooth operation and avoid unnecessary problems regarding the authority regulation. 


You can check this article[1] since it states Casino that has no KYC requirement.  Though I am not sure about those casino reputation.  You might want to dig deeper to know the reputation of listed casino stated on the article.

---

[1] https://casino-howto.com/blog/online-casinos-without-kyc-pros-and-cons/

It's important for the gambling site to verify your identity once you are winning huge amounts of money. It doens't important for the site if you are only wanna withdrawing small amounts of money. Mostly of gambling sites were not making KYC as main requirement to play in the sites.
The gambling sites will be asking your identity once you have been winning huge amounts of money from playing the game. This makes the thing is very annoying. It's better if the sites were asking KYC first for their users before they wanna try to play in that site.
Some people were feeing how difficult to complete KYC requirements. Some sites were not forcing their users to do KYC but i do believe they will ask this once you have been winning big reward

If he can find it, he's lucky. Otherwise, he won't be able to gamble there ;D

In doing KYC, you should choose a reputable casino site and don't randomly choose a casino because not all casinos out there can protect your identity. We have seen cases where irresponsible parties misuse customer data. Therefore, if we are willing to do KYC, we should be on the right casino site so we don't have to worry about anything.

Because of the regulation rule, KYC has become important for every Crypto casino, it gives them a legal entity to operate online, because of KYC they make their casino safe from money launderers and scammers, and cheaters, it's chaos for casinos if they just let people play without KYC, the authorities will go after them, cheaters, scammers, and money launderers will have a feast day playing on these casinos, so KYC is very important whether you like it or not.

That's true, Almost all reputable casino is asking KYC for different scenarios and it's hard to evade that since they can always lock your funds into their platform. If you're not willing to do KYC or has no intention to send documents to the casino you are playing, It would be better just to play at your local casino.

The best way to protect our identity is to just choose a reputable casino that has no history of data breach since they are the one holding our data. There are a lot of casino out there and I've seen some of them not asking KYC, It's just a hit and miss if you want to risk playing. It's just that no KYC is a luxury now on a casino.

You can't find a reputable KYC free casino nowadays. There are some new casinos that offers "no kyc requirement" as part of their promotion but you should be wary of those and double check it on their ToS  if they will not really ask for it. However if you are able to find one, you should be suspicious since there is a high chance that they will scam you. KYC policy is a norm now on gambling websites since they are becoming more regulated and I understand why they need to implement it since there are criminals that can use their platform for illegal activities.

KYC is a regulations rules for every casino site. many site have they aren’t ask kyc on registration and deposit time. But if someone won a big amount of usd then this platform ask kyc to this user. coz they verify this users legal document before given him withdrawal permission. and when that user submit real kyc document then he can withdraw his winning fund

Yes, but a lot of casinos uses KYC just for not to pay your legal winnings, especially they when asking source of founds etd..

Fortunately, there are still some gambling platforms that are reputable and known on the forum that doesn't require KYC to their users unless they have to. I've seen and have been using some gambling platform for a long time that doesn't requires me to do KYC. However, if you will try to look on their platform's ToS, you'll see that they do in fact KYC to some users if they only detected that user is violating their terms and services.

As for new gambling platform, I suggest to avoid those especially those that are suspicious and offers crazy bonuses.

That's a great point. If a new book is giving away a huge bonus, stay away. It can't be emphasized enough that some books will go under after the World Cup.

But if we play at a local casino, that means we use fiat to play gambling and maybe he will still be asked to show his identity before he enters the local casino. But if there is a casino that accepts crypto in his place, that's good for him. The problem is if he is still asked to do or show his identity even though he will play gambling using crypto.

Nowadays, it is very difficult to avoid KYC, especially if we get big wins. So we can only prepare and as long as we can choose a reputable and reputable casino, I think we can KYC there and trust the casino.

Actually, it is rare that I see gambling casino does not require a KYC verification because it is like widely adoption it is hard to them to reach out the concern of other people about their account because there's no KYC this can be a strong verification if the holder of the account is the real player and not just hack account to prevent those hackers steal those funds, so it is okay to have this but some people don't want to have this KYC for their safety too like personal information. Today I've seen just a level one KYC like the name and email address of the player.

It's hard to accept the truth. This must be the main problem why even sometime non kyc platform was even asking its users their identity once someone has been winning lots of reward. This is the truth. They were not asking KYC during registration period but they will be asking KYC once you get a big reward from winning a game. In my opinion if this looks so bad. Some platforms were abusing KYC as a step to prevent their users to withdraw their reward.
I have seen some cases that revealed if platform will be asking your KYC once you are winning like a few thousands USD. they will never ask KYC if you're losing. KYC verification must be asked during the registration period and it must also be mentioned in TOS

https://www.ltccasino.com/best-anonymous-casino

The majority of the community agreed that its part of the regulation if a casino has a license already given that they ask for KYC of their players, but not when you are playing with a small amount or not breaking the rules of the casinos, only when you win a big amount or a cheater, they ask KYC to protect their casinos and to make sure players are following rules they laid out in their terms, and besides its more secure to play in casinos that ask for KYC, than casinos that boast that they do not ask for KYC.

This is true on most of the casino but right now there are some casino that requiring KYC on new user and existing user even though it didn't violate there ToS as part of regulators requirements for AML. Roobet is one the first casino that I know that starts to do mandatory KYC implementation to all there existing user. I believe other casino will follow soon once regulator makes this law a mandatory requirements in able to operate using there license.

I believe that optional KYC era will start to be obsolete since regulators decision will fovern because casino is a business that needs to comply for on all legal terms provided by the regulators.

The notion has always been like that but how tight the regulation are with these casinos really? As far as I know, money laundering still exists today and even when the KYC feature has been introduced, I think money laundering still persists in every gambling platform.

A lots of existing most reliable casino sites still not ask to KYC for deposit and withdrawal, but if you will cross the limit amount when they will ask KYC because to avoid money laundering issue, and they have regulation for KYC as a licences company. If no one interested about KYC in casino, i think they should not use gamble platforms.

As gambling sites are getting their license, they also need to comply with its regulations.
But as you said, most sites are still not requiring KYC because you haven't reached your limits or you're not getting high winnings.
Most of them have certain max amount of deposits or withdrawals which is mostly $2k, before they will require KYC.
However, as a player in a licensed casino, you should always be ready if they will ask KYC at any given moment.
This is why you need to be cautious on what you are submitting to the gambling site before they will get suspicious of your account.

If most of the KYC demands where subjects to what there customers submit,  am sure we would have had far less KYC verification request than we hear them complain on the forum. KYC isn't any lathing really bad but, having your details in the wrong hands is and something to question is ho secure is the platform.
This makes it of utmost importance for users to gamble on platforms that have been verified and satisfied by them to be safe due to criterias met, individually and forum wise.

When it's about that, it doenst matter whatever the accusations or suspicions about you might be. You just go through the process and be cool. An unlikely process maybe but, its the more reason for gamblers to keep it on the low and watch it on there registration coupled with there gambling habits not to raise any flags.

If verification is like asking for email, age and name, it is the basic verification that casinos are used to asking for.
But if you win a large amount of money and want to withdraw the winning money, you will be asked to do a complete verification, such as being asked to upload the required documents.
This has become very common in many casinos and it will depend on every gambler because there will be crypto gamblers who do not want to reveal their identity just because of gambling.
But some gamblers are willing to upload their documents to the casino and usually, they choose a reputable and well-known casino so that they hope to have no problems in the future.

Unfortunatelly, all major crypto related sites are trying to comply with regulation and KYC is just a feature that they are demanded to add. The excuse is to prevent against online criminal activities, but when states are the biggest criminals KYC is just one more control feature they want to implement in order to tax the sites and the users. Fortunatelly, there are still a few sites out there that do not request KYC and still use crypto as a freedom tool. You should do your own research and you will find a few that still do not ask for any ID information.

I hope @OP wouldn't try to use the casino you promoted under your signature since 1xbit is a scam casino, it's unlicensed casino and doesn't ask user KYC, but there's many complaints pops out and doesn't get solved by the representative.

Now I wonder why @OP is looking for zero KYC casino because most of casinos are licensed and follow regulations rules, even though there's a zero KYC casino, but as a centralized casino they can edit their rules and add KYC rule in the future.

That is nice to know, fortunately I have avoided the need to identify myself while I gamble as I am just a small gambler, however I have always wondered what is the limit of what casinos consider a small gambler and 2k seems like a decent amount to be able to gamble and still do so anonymously, and while each casino most likely it is going to have their own polices assuming that became the standard I think a great deal of the community will be fine with that.

We can’t blame the people like that.Only few people are irresponsible as like you said,many people are more responsible.Some people do the same was of scamming people.So do scam in various way.In gambling scammers uses of VPN for running gambling sites.When the gambling website is real,you can cash out in some days.But some gambling websites using this kyc,to make the people not able to withdraw funds from their sites.

If they have a license, almost all have the same license in Curacao. A problem occurs when they try to steal your money and can go as far as asking for a video selfie. Play at casinos that are the least intrusive.

You will never see that. i keep seeing some thread from newbies that said they have been winning some amounts of money and they have not being asked KYC by the platform. The casino wants your money but they will ask KYC once you wanna withdraw a lot of money. The problem is how hard verifying your KYC in that platform. Many people are struggling on this process as they claimed that even when they have provided bunch of documents and casino was not even accepting it.
KYC is a must but it rarely asked when you are registering in the platform.

there are still casino that completely KYC free , but maybe for me personally? better to start admitting that this is the future of gambling in online specially in crypto because no matter what , KYC is coming and regulation will happen.
but yes some ask only level 1 KYC and I already have submitted to some of suites.

It is almost impossible to get any casino(online) with zero tolerance to KYC,
Most times the details provided during the KYC are kept private without the interference of a third party. And most of this details are used to prevent money laundering or any financial theft through their platform.
But I see no reason , why someone with a clean heart and intentions be scared a d worried over KYC?

It is not that, in this era it is almost impossible to maintain any level of privacy, and while there are some people which do not care and share everything they do on the Internet there are other people which do care and prefer to share that information with as little people and businesses as possible, another reason is that those businesses make guarantees that your data will never be exposed and yet they get hacked all the time, and suddenly that information that you thought no one else would see ends up in the black market and it is used for all kind of crimes.

The funny thing is that most online businesses which require identity verification do not process customers' data and verify their identity by themselves. They usually hire a third party company to do that job and hand them your documents. So, you can forget about privacy even if we talk about a reputable business/casino.
Another thing which you will find on practically any ToS you read, is that the casino reserve the right to share your informations with authorities if needed.

Almost impossible, but not impossible at all, we still having some casinos like Just-Dice who allows multi accounts, bots, and they never ask for KYC. If you use the alts or the bots to try to damage the site, they only ban your account, but even banned accounts are allowed to withdraw. I would say is the last one of that freedom casinos types.

From my point of view casinos shouldn't hold the uses money for KYC, but we are playing with their rules. It's how it works nowadays.

Freebitco.in, which started as a faucet and today is more of a casino/betting house, also does not require KYC. Apart from those, there are a couple of others that can be seen in Mahdirakib's thread, the rest require KYC above certain amounts above all. So if you want to gamble without KYC, as long as it is not a huge amount, you still can. I hope this space of freedom is maintained as I haven't passed KYC yet for any cryptocurrency casino and I hope I don't have to.

I agree with @Don Pedro Dinero, who said that Freebitco.in is a casino. Although they don't have too many gambling games, but it is enough for gamblers to bet and is KYC free. And so far, with its reputation, Freebitco.in has become one of the casino sites recommended by many people. The site still provides rewards in the form of faucets for people who want to play gambling directly and the interesting part is that on the site, you can also invest in FUN tokens and get reward points or WoF. But for other casino sites, there may be times when you have to KYC because that's the rule.

This is lovely, a casino company would still allow you to withdraw your funds even after banning your account? This is lovely and encouraging, and I will try them out for this reason. This is such a service you might not even get from the so-called KYC casinos, they are just enforcing the KYC to make people think they are legit, but many of them are as dubious as anything.

Nonetheless, KYC is important especially when the company is operating from a sane country that does not take money laundering lightly.

agreed mate, Yeah we must understand that In gambling world here in crypto ? license only exist  for formality but the totality of their obligation still matters to their decision and nature .

KYC will always matter now and in the future so best to deal with it? or just play in gambling that in live . this is how we hide our gambling activities and funds in the past but this has changing now in our days.

this is not only about them or their regulation but also for the safeties of players though there are also scam sites that use KYC verification to add flavor to their scamming yet most of legit gambling sites now are implementing KYC so best to deal with this for longer gambling activities and improvements .
Had been playing in freebitco.in for years and yes the site is boring unless you are seeking for  FUN investment or at least for free satoshis .

Now days what we saw in other casino they do more kyc at this is more important to secure the money while you are depositing in them but also we need to be aware that in the world of gambling we encounter a lot of casino that promising that there's no KYC but when you deposit then play and wok some prices then they said that you need to pass those KYC been ask by their facilitator so it's important to as to be aware.

that's an old issue that keeps circulating in casinos. KYC that is carried out certainly has a good purpose. Prohibition of money laundering is one of the rules of most crypto casinos. therefore there are KYC rules and a minimum bet that must be made before making a withdrawal.
some gamblers may feel their identity will be compromised. but some other players will think it is normal. the important thing is that they can still play at the casino.

Problems may really arise if a gambling platform, especially online, won't require KYC upon registration. One main problem are bots as mentioned by other players here. But same thing goes for implying KYC. Ofcourse we cannot blame those people who are not really into such procedures because they are protecting themselves from further conflicts. We cannot blame them because such problems exist. In some cases, bad people would use personal information of someone to wrongdoings. Indeed there is confidentiatlity and agreement between the player and platform but how sure are we that no one would really be close to your infos? Which gives them a valid side  But uf you are into that specific site, you have no choice but to comply.

Much better if you would ask fellow players within this platform just to be sure if nothing or something happened before proving the informations. This is to somehow gauge the risk an individual is afraid of. In my case, i'm fine with KYC. The problem on my end with regards to this, is the time it consumes in some platforms but if it would be aided, I've got no problem with this policy.

KYC has nothing to do with the security of your account or the security of your money in the casino website.
KYC is just a requirements mandated of the authority to the licensed casino to prevent money laundering. Many KYC required casino do take money from their users in different ways, you can see it on scam accusations board.
As well as KYC isn't assurance that your account's balance will be recovered when a hack take place. The casino might file bankruptsy, etc. So choose wisely when giving  your personal information to KYC required casinos.

Dont know on where they do really get the idea about KYC does ensure that they could really be able to take up those funds or recover it which isnt really totally true yet these verification does really been submitted

for the sake of verifying yourself to be in line with those money laundering issues  or in concern which had been always the main thing on why these platforms been asking out for these kyc.

And since they are regulated or licensed then it would really be no surprising that they would really be asking or following out on what the government
had been mandated.

You are right that when any casino/gambling site faces any problem they try to ask KYC their user so that they can know whether the user has multiple accounts or not. But they do that by the name of facilitators. It is hypocritical as they know about the rule of the facilitator while they start the gambling business.

And even though they don't require KYC, multi accounts are still hunted and banned by the platform. It means a casino doesn't need KYC feature to fight bots and multi accounts. There are efficient methods of doing this without being intrusive on someone's privacy. So it's not accurate when people say KYC is needed as security measure for the website.

However, we don't know how long freebitcoin will be still able to operate without KYC rule. Regulators are enforcing the siege over crypto services like never before and at some point soon freebitcoin may be left without any alternatives besides finally introducing the feature to the platform.

Multi account activity has been prohibited on terms and service even though the platform does not require KYC, top gambling platforms have methods to track multi accounts even if using VPN access or otherwise, so avoid multi accounts as freebitco.in still provides gambling opportunities without KYC.

If the regulator requests a KYC report then potential KYC features will be added soon for each user. But I rarely see intense discussion about KYC on the freebitco.in platform and I think if the team isn't going to press for KYC for now.

If freebitcoin can operate without KYC then why can they and the others not? What does freebitcoin have to offer the best service? I have been in freebitcoin and they have and can be used as a wallet for btc, so if they do those things, the casinos that have been here for years and cannot evade KYC? The regulations reach everyone except freebitcoin, this is something that has no excuse, these things are the reason why freebitcoin is one of the best casinos or gaming platforms that are most famous, the casinos that launch without KYC are not of the KYC style, then those that are not KYC are the most criticized casinos.

^Sometimes there is shady behavior in a gambling casino, KYC also their loophole, and one valid reason is that they can hold the funds of their users because of this. Sometimes they ask to enhance verification and it could be a video verification that you need to submit. Probably this usually happens in most financial institution services, they are required to have this because they follow regulations.
Zero KYC gambling platforms would be also very risky, you cannot come after them if they will become scam.

An investigation will continue on suspected accounts of other accounts because they do not want to see their members cheat by having multiple accounts to get more rewards. Perhaps the implementation of KYC is to avoid the problem of money laundering, where when we talk about gambling, it is a big business that brings in a lot of money to gamble. And many of those gamblers spend a lot of money. And because of that, the casino needs to know the background of its members who use that much money so that the casino does not get into trouble with the local authorities.

We can only hope that FreeBitcoin will still operate without KYC rules and will not require KYC on its members. But so far, FreeBitcoin is still safe for gambling, and many people still place bets on the site.

Nothing is bad about doing KYC, I always say that I like to do it to avoid future issues with casinos. But casinos nowadays overemphasise this KYC as if they are legit themselves, but they are not if you know how weak many of their registration is. The strength of registration depends on domains/jurisdictions and some even have fraudulent registrations to further with. This is why it is good to go for the casino you trust and abide by all the rules they state including the KYC. Then you might be fine.

But I think that KYC is a great evil and an unpleasant procedure when it comes to the use of cryptocurrencies. 
It is also clear that identity verification may be needed when people pay with fiat, but cryptocurrencies were originally created as anonymous monetary units. 
No wonder that until now, for more than 13 years, no one has found out who Satoshi Nakamoto is.  And besides, the KYC procedure always takes your valuable time, and sometimes the data is stolen by scammers and can be used for fraud.  There have already been many such cases.  So the best ones do without KYC.  By the way, the procedure was introduced as mandatory only 6 years ago.  American bankers tried to control clients. 
And in this I see a great muck in relation to the freedom of the individual.

KYC does interfere with the anonymity of gamblers. but how it is applied nowadays on many gambling platforms due to regulations that may conflict with the country where the player exists.
some countries prohibit gambling, and in the absence of KYC, this can be problematic for both casinos and players alike. other cases as money laundering. We have certainly heard the news regarding crypto exchanges and crypto casinos being used as money laundering by one or several unscrupulous state officials to evade the law.
however KYC is annoying, but it develops because of the situation that does require it to reduce the risk of future problems.

It is that one thing is what we can understand and analyze, being useful to accept things, but there are many people who defend No KYC, and yes to anonymity and privacy, and well, they have every right to do so, without However, when there are sites that do not have KYC requirements, they are usually the most criticized sites, because they tend to lack some licenses, and as I said before, those are the sites that can be very good and do not let them arise, so it is advocated to have all the licenses, but with regulations and prohibitions for some countries or something, for me the platform that is irreverent in every sense of all regulations is the one that will be more successful in the future, not for now, for now that is not possible.


I think that people's concern about KYC is so that they don't take the data where they live, especially those people who have a somewhat high balance and are afraid that it will fall into unscrupulous hands and want to harm them, so it is a danger and it is what you see for them, in my case this does not happen, firstly because I live in a country where it is very difficult to be surprised, usually you already know how you can defend yourself, apart from that you do not handle large amounts of money , it would be more expensive for the thief to come to the house to steal and if he realizes that as a person he is not afraid of anything because it is something that has to do with it, but in other countries if things are different, there are people who have a better economic status and u maintain high figures.

Wherever you do the verification, your data is stored on that company's server. And if that server ever gets hacked, then your data will be in the hands of the hacker after which the hacker will try to take advantage of your data in every possible way.

So KYC is bad.

Try to avoid this as much as possible.

There are many reasons why KYC is bad, and why we should avoid it. But the biggest reason is that KYC makes it easy for governments to track your financial transactions. KYC asks for way too many personal details and it can easily put a target on your back. The government wants to know how much money you have, where it comes from, and what you do with it. The more data you give away, the more likely it is that someone could use this information against you. And if your information goes into a database somewhere, there's always a chance that it could get hacked, and then all of your private details would be in the wrong hands.

KYC is destroying the spirit of online gambling. If you care about privacy, the anonymous way of life, and Satoshi's ideology, you're not going to be a fan of KYC, and you should refrain as much as possible from giving up your private information and from signing up to a KYC/AML gambling sites.

If it's about the government, I don't care because I myself do not want to breach the law in any way. If they like, let them track me. My only concern is the leak of my details, it has happened before when a hacker I never met informed me through email that my data has been breached.

You have a good point that KYC exposes our data to a third party, I don't even care about it if it's gambling, I have a little trust in them for the protection of my data, so KYC might be dangerous in sharing with them at times. Many casinos do not have the necessary cyber security, so our data is truly susceptible to hacking.

We like it or not, the government are doing that. Are you not using bank? Have you not used a fiat gambling site before? Fiat gambling sites do require for KYC.

I accept this, we must also be very careful and avoid KYC whenever it is possible, but in reality, we can not completely avoid KYC.

Probably we have different approach towards gambling, I gambler just for nothing too good or serious about it, I use just little amount to gamble, the reason I may consider KYC if demanded for. For gamblers that deposit high sum of money, I may advice them otherwise.

Yes, the governments are doing that. Whether we like it or not, we have to accept that. However, there is a difference between using banks and using online casinos. If I take cash from the bank and spend it on gambling, the government doesn't always have to know about it. Not all brick-and-mortar casinos require KYC, especially for small stake, casual gamblers.


That's exactly my point. I still think that requiring a full KYC for small amounts is overkill and I think that KYC and AML laws should be relaxed when it comes to recreational gambling. It's not a major financial transaction, nor one where the risk of money laundering is particularly high. Let players and casinos alike enjoy their games in peace. I mean, maybe it's just a matter of personal opinion, but shouldn't KYC and AML laws be concerned with preventing money laundering from the beginning and the source? No one is going to try to launder ill-gotten money by depositing $100 into an online casino platform, so AML laws make no sense here. And also, it doesn't really make sense to enforce AML when someone wins some amount gambling. Perhaps this unfair policy will change in the future, though; I would certainly hope so.

unfortunately scam casinos are using KYC as an argument not to pay, even when the customer wins 100$ scam casinos start using the argument that they have detected suspicious activity and the customer needs to KYC and when the customer does KYC they come with another story, like this The customer is sometimes told that he has too many accounts and for that reason the casino is closing the customer's account and confirming all the customer's winnings. and since no one else has access to the casino's security system, we are all forced to believe what the casino is saying, that is, it has become a very powerful weapon for the casinos.


the worst part is that the owners of the casinos are anonymous people so it makes no sense to be asking people to do KYC when the owners of the casinos are anonymous people, i honestly can't understand this point of KYC, someone money launderer can also create casino, so why are governments not fair on this KYC issue? in new and anonymous casinos asking for KYC, and no one can guarantee that these new and anonymous casinos will get people's documents safe

I am not sure how can one expect KYC free casino? It’s financial domain and it has money involved in it so definitely they will need to verify us and with whom they are dealing. Plus they will always have pressure from the taxation authorities to show the information. This is due to electronic laws that will not allow free money circulation over the internet right? That’s the whole reason bitcoin was made by Mr Satoshi. However, this is a system and it will always get regulated with big authorities to overcome the tax burden.

Yes, you have a point on this very statement of yours, and I have no doubt about it, because in as much as KYC is very important, there are some persons who don't like the idea of KYC, but not that it's bad, but for personal security reasons. But due to the level of internet fraud happening now our days, casinos have no choice but to implement it for fairness and ability to monitor all transactions

Every casino has a dept reason why they are using some KYC in the first place. It because it will lead their customer to avoid cheating which not all but there are some gamblers who will cheat in a game in order to win the prizes and that's the reason why they are asking KYC from withdrawal and depositing a of money. But some gamblers prefer to don't have any KYC it because of security which is to avoid private information to be known.

If there is any abuse doing by the user, the casino can see their identity and immediately report it to the authorities. Indeed some gamblers who don't break any rules, don't like KYC for personal security reasons because they don't want to send their documents to other parties. But they are forced to obey him if they want to keep playing at the casino site.

But we can still play on casino sites without doing KYC because some casinos still allow it, especially if we only use small money to play gambling. And if the casino does a check, they will not find any violations or use of big money to gamble.

It's not all about the user's security but rather it also involves the security of the gambling platform itself such as what you've said about abusers or probably fraudulent transactions that they would like to avoid happening on their platform. If a gambler isn't comfortable providing their identity on the casino, then I suggest they either gamble small or avoid going over the withdrawal limit for KYC-free users and not doing anything that would violate the terms of the casino. But if you want to continue gambling at the said casino and that you trust it, then proceed with the KYC and avoid providing it on other platforms.

But there could be users that used the identity of other person for verification. Given that, let's say that the particular user used legitimate documents of himself/herself it will be then okay to be reported to the authorities.
The set of rules are dependent to the casino that implements it. If they are strict with it, then most probably you'll need to abide it otherwise, face the consequences such as not being able to play on their site anymore.

We know that there are indeed people who do make use of others identity or fake details or kyc verification but there are things which is part of verification which could easily exposed off if you are really that fake

or not and once they had able to see those differences then pretty sure there's no way for you to get out on getting blocked and locked up those funds on your account.We know that KYC do really sucks but

cant really deny out that they are just really that implying on what government had been required so imposing these rules strictly wouldnt really be that surprising.

Believe me or not but KYC is mandatory in the gambling world in one way or another. You may be given some benefit on not doing the KYC initially on the gambling site but later you may have to do it as sometimes you are not able to withdraw without KYC or you are being given some limitations which can only be removed if you perform the KYC.

As far as gambling sites are concerned, they are being forced to implement KYC so that they are not accused of money laundering and can save themselves in case some mishaps happen regarding the irregularity of money usage or transfer.

MintDice has no KYC and in addition to that has instant account creation. No e-mail needed with secret key URLs.

KYC verification is always a very important requirement. However, if applied on crypto-gambling websites, shouldn't be mandatory or there's just an instance that it will be just asked depending on the account's problem or issues.

Technically, part of the regulation as it's not just to protect the site itself from abuse but also all of its users.

As far as I know, there's no crypto-gambling site yet that mandates KYC. If there is, may I know what are those sites?

Yes that is nice idea of it. It will be safe for the two, just like an agreement between the two that agreed on a particular thing. Without KYC, many gamblers abuse the system. They misappropriate the whole system plus the bonuses. So the KYC the misappropriation of stake is control to some extent. But there are some casino company or sites that are not using KYC, yet they are doing fine. What method do you think they are using to control their customers?
With KYC the scamming rate of casino's platforms have been reduced. In the nutshell, KYC is the public key to verify the authenticity of the gambler

KYC Is a very important requirements need by casinos to make sure that the original person is the one handling the account. Money is involved here and I bet it that no one will take it likely with a casino if they find out that there fund is no more in their account again which might be as a result of hackers compromising the account. This is where KYC is very important to ensure that in a case where the account is compromised the casino can ensure that the hacker has less activity to do which will limit them from taking full control of the account.

For the safety of the gambling platform, I'm sure they will always keep an eye on the platform for attacks or abuse from its members so that they can act quickly when they see something suspicious. And what you say is true not to use big money and never exceed the limit to avoid KYC, although that does not rule out the possibility that later the casino will apply KYC to all its members. If so, we have no other choice.

Yeah, I guess that's also the case because we know people can easily borrow other people's identities and verify their accounts. And as long as the verification doesn't use live verification, they can definitely verify their account easily. But the casino can still suspect if the account is not genuine. If we don't abuse or break the casino rules, we'll be fine gambling there.

Yes, usually the application of KYC is to prevent people from laundering money, not only with the problem of tax burdens, especially the permits and legality of the casino sites that have been obtained, of course, they must comply with the laws in that country, so actually not all of them have to send their identity to the gambling site while submitting. the name and date of birth form seems to be sufficient for users who make small withdrawals, usually to follow KYC rules only for users who may be playing with thousands or tens of thousands of dollars

I hope one day you don't explode with anger and surprise if you see your documents being illegally used by another person to commit fraud or a crime of some sort due to mismanagement by casinos, KYC and Bitcoin were never in the same pattern, their principle and mode of operation.
Casinos were long there and working in good shape until bitcoin Casino start popping up, since the traditional ones found out that they always have limitations in deposit and how to prove fairness to people, they started accepting bitcoin and some other sort of crypto and this decision increases the gambling casinos and people today due to use of bitcoin. Now, tell me why they shouldn't allow people to do their thing the bitcoin way and be KYCless, the email and mobile number are enough to allow any play free, at least they know who they are basically dealing with.

Additionally, submitting a KYC doesn't guarantee that a player is genuine, players can submit wrong documents and find their way out of strict casinos that always demand KYC, we need a financial environment to a level to protect people's privacy.

I'm not advocating for making kyc mandatory but you raised a valid point! If your account get hacked or you lose access to it, how can you prove you are the real owner if you haven't verified your identity? Email address, wallet addresses and all that can be hacked too so it's not as solid proof as legal documents.
Despite how much I hate to admit it but identity verification does have some advantages.

sorry, I posted this on the wrong thread earlier and moved it here now.

KYC verification is not new to us since most of the established and reputable casinos are already doing that. Except in gray areas, you don’t have to pass KYC but if you also win a huge amount, there will always be problems and delays for sure. The reason why we have to settle for KYC exchange, aside from we can gain more security from our possessions, we can also expect for fast and safe withrawal. Being anonymous is good, but if it’s the only reason why you can’t play your favorite game in a good and established casino, then it will still be useless in the end.

KYC requirements will be subject to change depending on regulatory updates from authorities, so we must be willing to KYC whenever needed for casino account verification even if we have low balances on casino accounts, but since many established casinos have already determined KYC then it is ensured that more users are willing or have verified KYC, if KYC verification is not too bad to prevent money laundering crimes and can be useful as proof of account ownership if the account has been hacked.

All this is 100% lies about the fact that KYC is very important when laundering money that someone got by criminal means. 
KYC is not a hindrance to any criminals at all.

 I'll tell you why the American authorities came up with and are actively implementing KYC.  This is connected with the banking lobby precisely to collect information on the income and money turnover of millions of residents and the United States and in general everyone in the world.  And these databases are used for taxation and also as a tool for advertising and imposing on you loans from banks that the AI ​​connected to the system will impose on you.  Probably everyone has already seen this type of offer in their PC or mobile phone.  So this is the consequences of your passing KYC.  Definitely a crappy procedure to control the entire population of the country.  And who is this bastard that introduces KYC into the cryptocurrency industry?

We should not discourage the importance of KYC; it's an import; to inspect it to avoid terrorism funding, money laundering, or any such illegal activities.

Yes, some casinos don't require KYC, but we should strongly discourage them. It's for our safety.

And for the future, it seems that the government will implement KYC in all businesses, not only in gambling but as a contributor to income for a country. The gambling business is closely monitored because many people can enter and leave easily, even if they do KYC with a false identity. Crime cases like what @worldofcoins has been saying have happened frequently, and many of these cases cannot be detected where the funds come from, so KYC is needed to find out. KYC has been implemented in several crypto casinos, although not all. In the future, the government will implement KYC in all casinos to avoid these crimes.

If your account gets hacked then you are on your own. No one is going to help. Use 2FA.

Most casinos and or/bookmakers advertise that no KYS takes place. Unfortunately, we cannot take those promises for granted. What we see more and more often is that no KYC is requested for low amounts, but as soon as more money is won, the problems start. There are sites that perform a KYC when a player has registered, which is most fair, but I understand that you can lose a lot of potential customers with that. And there are also players who do not want to participate in a KYC procedure at all.

ya.ya.yo!

I am aware that not all people that gamble are actually very into cryptography in general, but there should be also an option to register an address which one could declare to the casino one has complete control over, and in case of hacking or loss of access, then a simple signature should be enough to prove one's identity and at the same time keeping the non-KYC model intact.
It could be a similar system we use here on the forum with the staked addresses.

^KYC procedure versus a non-reputable gambling casino, I still prefer the KYC casino, it feels safe for me with the KYC casino because I know KYC casino has jurisdictions to follow based on their licensing. I don't think that there is lose a lot of potentials, one of my examples is Roobet which from zero KYC until now required KYC procedures they have still many gamblers to play.  So I think that does not matter to them the most important is the reputation of the casino not the KYC procedure.

Even myself would definitely be get in line with those KYC casinos and never ever touch up non popular ones because we do know the risk of losing money or speaking with security.Some people are really just

too keen or minding about their information which i couldnt blame them but some people thing that if there's nothing you've been hiding then exposing or complying KYC wont really be that much of an issue.

For now we do have still lots of platforms which we could still play without the need of these verifications which is something that we do really prefer most of the time.
It cant really be just happening that there are no who had been implying out these rules considering that they are regulation or centralized.

Are you sure about this? Mintdice has KYC policy https://www.mintdice.com/article/anti-money-laundering-know-your-customer-policy

There are some requirements for users to be asked for KYC verification. I think that you can read whole of article about that. It's pretty well explained by the article. Any gambling platforms have KYC policy for people who have been fulfilling some requirements that already mentioned on their policy or TOS.

When it comes to the point that KYC is now a thing, it's good to just comply with it on considered reputable sites that are running for a long.

It's not the first time though that we are exposing our private data on a third-party service that's why we should manage the risks.

Besides, it's really possible that all crypto-gambling sites will have KYC but there should be a tier where KYC will just ask.

I think you missed the point. I wasn't talking about how to secure your account, that's another matter. I was talking about how to recover your account after it gets hacked. You won't be able to recover it unless you prove its ownership. You can easily do that if you have already verified your identity. You can then prove you are the same person by re-submitting your documents.

That's also an option but it will be worthless if you don't know how to properly secure the encryption key and how to store it in a safe place. It also require some technical knowledge that mst regular gamblers don't have.

I believe it is worth it to learn how to do it, specially if people wants to stay away from KYC.
It is easier than it seems and gamblers could even generate keys specifically for 2FA on their casinos and store them on their PC (without funds stored). In case the computer gets compromised and someone steals the keys, the attacker won't do anything, since there is no money in that wallet and it is highly unlikely they realize those keys were specifically created to authenticate one's account in casinos. They may think it is just an empty wallet.

it is mate , and also crypto gamblers must start listening to this call that gambling Online will be for KYC maybe some still not ask now but sooner they will all be , and that is what in online gambling future.
support in this part, KYC must be depend on the level of issue .

Well the truth is I see your point of view and you are absolutely right, I don't see why it can't be taken that way, nobody likes to have their account hacked, and if a way to recover your account and funds is through has already done his KYC verification, the platform is forced to help that client who is totally legal with them, with a person who is totally anonymous, it is very difficult because the way to prove what is or is not is very difficult, with the documents is something else, it could be said that you can have a more preferential treatment and with more benefits, and it is not that people with KYC are more than the others, only that it is a way to make it easier.

Lately KYC has become very essential for casinos so as to help regulate it's platform and to prevent every form of money laundering and criminality through their platform.
It is true most gamblers wants to stay anonymous while gambling, but most times, this very reason it's been misuesed and abused by some gamblers who try to divert stolen funds to these casinos.
In the past, casinos would never ask for a KYC not until it was made necessary by the gambling board as directed by government so as to monitor transactions safely on its platform.
I see no reason why people shy away from KYC especially when your intentions are pure and genuine.
Beside the casino isn't reviewing your identity to anyone except on the cases of criminal investigation.
There are basically few casinos that wouldn't ask for KYC initially or for little deposit but as time goes on or during withdrawal of some certain amount, you might in one way or the other be asked for KYC.

Maybe if they don't want to do KYC, they can still look for casinos that don't require KYC to play gambling, especially crypto casinos. And we know there are still casinos like that. It only takes time before we can find casinos that don't require KYC and become comfortable places to gamble but we also have to be prepared if, one day, casinos ask us to do KYC. The government seems to want to know who are the people who use a lot of money to gamble and if they find suspicious activity, maybe the government will pressure casinos to ask their users to do KYC. This is one of the ways that the government, through casinos, finds out if someone is engaging in an activity that the casino does not allow, so they can prevent it before it happens.

In principle, I really do not like the KYC procedure itself. 
Especially when an online casino or some other site requires KYC with your photo with a document, a date written on a piece of paper, or, accordingly, some video with your face from different angles.  Such perversions during the passage of KYC are generally disgusting to me.  And they are somewhat reminiscent of how criminals are fingerprinted during detention or photographed both in front and profile, next to a ruler measuring a person’s height.  In general, I am surprised that this procedure, invented by American bureaucrats with the support of stupid authorities, does not infuriate many people at all.  And such people will show that it seems to be normal and in the order of things. 

 But I think that mandatory KYC is a mockery of personality and just disgusting. >:(

I was also asked to submit the KYC requirements when I was on a vacation and planned to withdraw my funds. I was actually surprised that they asked me to submit the KYC requirements when in fact, I have been playing on their site for several months and have withdrawal transactions already. It's a waste of time especially if they would ask you to write your name and the date accompanied by the name of their casino on a sheet of paper. I was on a vacation at that time and I was so disappointed because they should have asked me to comply with their KYC requirements as early as possible and not in the middle of the withdrawal process.

Actually I also don't like KYC in casinos because I think I only play gambling for fun and even then, I don't do it every day so I think KYC in casinos is unnecessary. But maybe that doesn't apply to casino that have many gamblers because we have often seen many people who use a lot of money to gamble and can be said to gamble almost daily. This is what makes casinos try to implement casinos in their places of business to find out who they are.

As crypto users who want to remain hidden behind the scenes, we can't do anything because the government tries to control all businesses, especially the gambling business, because it is a billion dollar business. And I feel that it will be mandatory for all gamblers to comply with KYC procedures in the future when the government really takes this regulation seriously.

the problem is that people don't know who owns the casinos, people don't know how their documents will be kept, so how will people be calm when they do KYC? how do you stay calm when you do KYC in a new casino, that you don't know who the owners are and where the company's headquarters are? And if they take your documents and sell them to some high-risk criminal (I'm talking about those sick criminals who kill without mercy, cut people's organs, commit atrocities), the police won't even want to know your story when they arrest you, they'll think that it was you who committed the crime and it may take years to prove your innocence


if there weren't those damned thieves and money launderers it wouldn't be necessary to do KYC, but unfortunately due to money laundering casinos are forced to do KYC, the only thing I complain about is that casino owners are anonymous but customers can't being anonymous, that's what I don't think is fair, because it puts people's documents in danger, but I don't understand those who made these KYC laws how the hell didn't they think it's wrong that casino owners are anonymous but customers are not anonymous

I am not in favor of KYC in crypto casinos. Because people now want to hide themselves and conduct gambling. There are many gamblers who are gambling occasionally and many of them will not be encouraged to do KYC. I think KYC should be maintained for those willing to conduct gambling with large amounts. For those who conduct gambling activities with small amount of assets KYC system is not suitable for them. One  thing is important that if there is any government restrictions regarding KYC then gambling must be followed according to the government rules and regulations.

Agree with your opinion, as I am a small gambler, maybe every week I only bet around $20 to $30, that's a lot to say a big amount. With that money I can usually withdraw up to $50 and that's enough for me. So I really don't like KYC requirements in gambling and I'm more looking for sites that don't require it.

if you don't like the KYC requirements of the casino you can leave it because usually every casino will ask gamblers to complete their KYC documents but you can look for decentralized casinos there may not be many out there right now because decentralized casinos are usually KYC free and it will probably be make gamblers comfortable

Since you gamble with small amounts, your risk ratio is low, so you can gamble without KYC. And those casinos don't force you to do KYC either. But when you go to gamble with big amounts, you must look for a reputable casino for the security of your funds? And any reputable casino will tell you to do KYC, if you are not using that casino for any illegal purpose then doing KYC is not a big deal. And if you want to be more conservative with KYC, then Decentralized Casino is the right place for you.

I will like to assume that KYC should be required only on account recovery purpose, take a look at the forum for instance, you will be required to input a username, email and create your password in which the email will only be verified if there's a need for account verification during lost of login details or hack related issues, the casinos can also make use of this or something close to, they will definitely safe the user's privacy when they only demanded for his email address and of which he should have the password and phone number used in creating the email address before using it.

In today's era, you need KYC verification everywhere. Just as no centralized exchange allows you to trade without KYC verification. In the same way, a casino that has taken a license from any country will not allow you to gamble. It doesn't matter how much money you want to gamble with, they just want to know who is behind that account and as always the same excuse money laundering.
What we can do is, do KYC verification only on few trusted websites and not everywhere. so that your data is limited to only few companies.

You only see gambling sites without KYC on a platform when you are playing with crypto. And even then you have no certainty whether you can continue to play anonymously. Especially nowadays many sites are a big fan of the implementation of the KYC system. An easy way to slow down certain processes. What is also very irritating is that many sites indicate that they do not use KYC and then start talking about the KYC after a larger profit. And gambling sites happily all get away with that.

I will also prefer to do a KYC and not play at a casino that is not asking for KYC but its reputation is doubtful. For me money is more important than hiding the identity. That's our personal point of view however i know a few gamblers who do not want to do the KYC no matter what.

Those people want to hide their identity and they would even risk playing at an unreputed casino to avoid the KYC. There can be a number of reasons for hiding identity, one commonly to not reveal their identity and another one to not trust these gambling sites which may misuse the KYC data.

Yes.   You are totally right on is very statement of yours, as it has now become like a new strategy to delay payment of huge profit on most new casinos this days, knowing the fact that not everybody loves to share their details. But in most cases, all these are always started in the casino's "terms & condition", of which most people always neglect reading it, which is why before you create an account on any new casino, always ensure you DYOR

You are absolutely right. Casino owners can remain anonymous while users are required to do KYC and it's not fair but that's the business of gambling. Or maybe the casino owner has also done KYC at the regulator and only the regulator knows who owns the casino. And we really can't do anything about it and even if we use crypto for gambling, it won't matter in the future because, after all, we will still be asked to do KYC. This KYC issue will continue and all businesses that use crypto are still required to carry out KYC.

Submitting a KYC doesn't automatically mean that other players will now see your full name, your address and other details but they are still hidden at least on many crypto casinos and owner itself won't reveal it to others. Don't worry they won't screw you because they know that their players will leave when they do that. I think a crypto casino doesn't also like the idea of KYC because they are dealing with crypto but they don't have a choice but to follow what is ordered by them and this can also make their business more legal.

You can just read the TOS before you gamble to see if what are their conditions for KYC as not all are the same. There are some that don't mandate it and only require it once you exceed with your gambling limits or if they think you are suspicious while some are mandatory at the beginning.

Tu Certik conducted research on the provision of fake KYC services and discovered the existence of an entire industry of KYC scams ~ 20 underground marketplaces (mainly telegram and discord) where you can use the services of "KYC actors", the price for passing verification starts from $8 for the simplest procedure and averages from $20 to $30.  https://www.certik.com/resources/blog/pw0wcH6To6Jq78aJwJKng-unveiling-the-kyc-actor-industry

https://twitter.com/CertiK/status/1593359851928911873

https://i.imgur.com/IjugucI.png

Both of you made a very valid point most especially when it comes to casino that does not require KYC from the start but have it written in its terms and conditions that KYC may be required at any point in time. What I always understand is that, if I read through the T&C of some casinos and see these kinds of rules that state that KYC can be demanded in the course of my game session, I will just make up my mind if I want to give out my information or not. At some point, we as a player that want to go online should make one choice. Either to maintain privacy or give up our privacy by giving out data that allow third party to get access to our data and information.

Submitting to KYC requirement will never bring harm for us if we analyze it deeply. In fact, this is more for our own good and security when it comes to our money. KYC is designed to reduce fraud and that money laundering is always included in it. So while others are still looking for KYC-free platforms, its better to accept the reality that in less than a year, all gambling institutions will make KYC as mandatory.

As regulations becomes more strict then i do agree that sooner or later which these gambling online casinos will really be imposing kyc compliant which means that it would sooner or later be mandatory

for whose who do tend to play out on a certain site even if these platforms are crypto based.As long they are licensed or regulation then pretty much sure that they would really be ending up on that path.

When it comes to security then no doubt that kyc does have that edge specially on times of verification but there are really just some people who are really that mindful
about their identity or do really loves on being anonymous.

I am seeing the KYC option as an option that is not serious or bad for us as users, well maybe for users who are Whales, maybe if they feel some fear of leaving their data on the web or even within a platform , because their greatest fear is that they can leak that data and it comes to them to steal it, but at the same time the benefits of KYC help a lot when the account can be hacked, through KYC it can also be recovered. Before, I gave a lot of importance to anonymity, now I don't care, anonymity is already being removed opco by opco, in all the platforms that I have entered, in most of them 98% always look for KYC.

you described what has been happening on your subscription website, they wait for the person to make the deposit, then they wait for the person to play and after the person plays and wins and when it comes to withdrawing they block the player's account and send an email saying that the player cheated and that the casino was closing the player's account and terminating any collaboration with the player, honestly this is something cruel and not even asking a member of the forum to verify what they found they don't ask because they always claim that the casino respects privacy of people, all lie


I believe that the core problem is not because people love to be anonymous, and the problem comes from the fact that casino owners are anonymous and casinos are also anonymous so who guarantees that the person's document will be safe and not sold on the black market? no one can give that guarantee and that makes people afraid, something quite understandable. I don't understand how governments put this KYC measure on the customer's side and not on the casino owner's side

We have to check the detailed reputation of each platform to apply for KYC, because not every platform is eligible to provide KYC except for legitimate gambling sites but you must avoid gambling on new platforms to prevent unwanted things because many problems on new gambling sites but not all gambling sites new has a bad reputation.

Because you don't get the point why KYC is so dangerous in other way around, and how serious identity theft is. Imagine getting calls from some random company or guy trying to talk to me about crypto is too weird for me on phone calls ^{(that's my experience, because of ledger hack recently)}

It doesn't need to be a whale or not, an exposed personal info could lead  you in danger, inconvenience and many more.

KYC doesn't work like that. Even a hacked account can be recovered via email only or mobile number only. KYC isn't a thing before, but there's already hacking yet account recovery is possible.

I'm not against KYC because i've submitted my info too on my local exchange for crypto to fiat transaction. But people need to be responsible of their own personal data, that don't just give it just because you dont care anonymity or most casino platform or exchange require it. Exercise your due diligence at least on what platform you should give your info.

Actually, submitting KYC to each and every platform you'll be playing is too risky to do as your data will be saved on different platforms and you won't be able to know which is which if in case your documents will used for any illegal activities including money laundering, fraud, and any crimes relating to identity theft. It's good to provide KYC but it should only be done on a platform that has a solid reputation.
It's not about avoiding new gambling platforms but more about checking the reputation of the platform itself to ensure that our KYC or identification will be safe and not be sold on any third-party marketplace which we all don't want to experience. There are new gambling platforms out here that has a much better reputation than those that it is already existing for a long time.

Even if we do talk into those traditional things or services that we do have physically which do really ask out personal identification then we are already having those doubts on where those informations would be kept.

Yes, we do have that privacy act or law but it wont really be applicable on online platforms that we are dealing which the thing you do said was true where we cant really be so sure or to assure on where
these information would be kept safe.
Some are really that mindful about it and some doesnt really care at all.Even we do like it or not then we do really need to face nor deal on whats currently the set-up.

^That is why I prefer to choose a KYC casino that operates at least a year old in service that has fewer complaints or there are no bad reviews.
KYC is very fragile to us, it will probably put our documents at risk when some companies close and sell our documents into the dark web which is very well-known as of now. We can avoid them as much as there is no KCY gambling casino. As long as there is an option to hide your identity, you can choose a no-KYC casino.

therefore appear some decentralized casinos that do not require KYC on their sites and in the end it will also be a competitor of casinos that implement KYC , I also think there is no problem with that as long as the casino site does not abuse our identity and of course it's a trusted casino, but everything back again to the wishes of the gambler himself choose to live the existing reality or avoid it

There are many gambling platforms that do not require KYC or at least advertise themselves with that tag. One such platform is Bitvest and they have official threads here. They also used to run a successful signature campaign here if I remember.

But I do not think you should be scared of KYC on gambling platforms. See any company has to adhere to the laws of that country to offer its services to citizens of that country. That is why most exchanges have KYC requirements. They have reasons behind this. First is to prevent money laundering as with KYC they can held you liable in case something wrong happens. Second is to ensure age compliance. Any country cannot allow people below certain age to do gambling and thus KYC is a must there.

We should be able to find a casino that can protect our identity well if we play at a casino that requires KYC.
But if we move to a decentralized casino, we have to be extra careful because we are using our wallets to gamble.
And some gamblers don't mind casinos requiring KYC because they may play there more often.
In addition, they also use more money than us, who only use small money.

There are any option as a gambler need to decide because there's a casino who are less KYC but there are casino that ask more KYC
Like what other did I am also prefer to trusted KYC casino. it because  it's better to play in trusted enough KYC casinos with a small complients and no bad review in order to prevent/keep our Identity silence and secure.

You're joking, right? Have you ever heard of data leaks? There was one where bitcointalk accounts were stolen a few years back and people were able to buy them on the dark web.
There was a big leak from facebook as well. And we're talking only about accounts, passwords, emails. In case of a casino KYC you're losing all your private data, your address, sometimes names of your parents, the number of your document, your nationality and this gets all linked to your crypto addreses that you use to deposit. With that it's easy to find you on other social platforms, here on bitcointalk where you reuse your addresses... If that gets leaked you're fucked.

The guy that you quote has a valid point as the use of KYC besides KYC on casino is being done with 3rd party KYC company for a secure data storage. This company has global license to do this kind of job to make the privacy of the user safe. Casino nowadays is complying to the regulators for safety of there consumer. Casino now are already evolved to a fully compliant to the law unlike before that is just a bunch of casino that owned by unknown without any license.

Is there a casino news that KYC credentials being leak? Even on big exchange? The only thing that this happened is on mediocre casino that doing KYC by there own service.

If it's done by a third party the risk is lower, but do all casinos nowadays do it this way? I don't think so. When you start playing at a casino, do you check whether KYC is done through a third party? I sure don't bother. I'm more interested in how much I can withdraw without having to submit any information.


I haven't heard of a casino leak, but do we really need one to understand how risky it is? It's like with holding coins on exchanges. You don't want to get caught in a bankruptcy with your coins frozen and you don't need a proof that it can happen. You just know it.

Read this:
https://bitcoinmagazine.com/business/probably-the-largest-kyc-data-leak-in-history-demonstrates-the-importance-of-bitcoin-privacy

As far as I know, doing Kyc on several casino or exchange sites is only for withdrawing and depositing your funds when you want to play at a casino or trade, if there is a leak in our data system, is it possible that it was caused by gambling or trading sites, in my opinion it is not valid to serve as a site to leak someone's data, but negligence on our part, it could be without us realizing that we have done something that made our data leak out, such as participating in Airdrop or promotions that do KYC, because there are very rare cases leaks on gambling sites and trading sites..

This is just my speculation only !!

There is nothing like zero KYC casino, and even though some site claim to be none KYC which is not true because at some point, their will still ask for kuc especially when your winning price is big and your want to withdraw an amount greater than $5000 at once.

Also, some ask for KYC when there is suspected system abuse from a player.

It is quite understandable if crypto casino demand for KYC when huge prices are won for accurate documentation, Money Laundering prevention and fraudulent attempts. But i don't know if Crypto Casinos that are completely decentralize ask for KYC when a user abuses the system or cheats. KYC within this casinos is just reserved for Deposit and withdrawal of big gains.

if we play a decentralized casino if we use a blockchain network that costs a lot I think it will cost money every time to make a bet and of course we only play connected to their smart contract so even though their casino site is not accessible maybe we can still withdraw money we went through their smart contract but it looks complicated for newbies, it all comes back to everyone's wishes if they don't mind KYC no problem as long as the casino is trusted and of course our money will also be safe there

Despite this KYC verification, they have not been able to prevent it.

Let's take a look at the USA. "In the U.S., roughly $300 billion is laundered each year"

2% to 5% of the world's GDP is being laundered. "Between 2% and 5% of the world’s total GDP is lost to money laundering each year.
" Source (https://www.zippia.com/advice/money-laundering-statistics/#:~:text=How%20much%20money%20is%20laundered,billion%20and%20%242%20trillion%20worldwide.)

So KYC is useless in my opinion.

That's correct. The good thing about dapps and smart contracts is that even if for some reason the website cease to exist or the team dissappear you still can withdraw your coins by interacting directly with the smart contract. The drawback is the excessive fees you have to pay for each transaction and the waiting time for its confirmation. This explains why decentralized casinos and blockchain games do not exist anymore.
Also, you can't develop very interactive games if they are going to be based on smart contracts.

Decentralized is always been preferred due into its security but we cant really deny that it does have its con's which you had mentioned about fees and confirmation which is something that we dont really like

when we do gamble which means that we would really be sticking into those centralized stuff.Yes, it does really compromise that total anonymity and full control but we cant really just avoid
to stick on it because of the convenience that it gives.Well, it does mean that it do really have its cons but people wont care nor matter as long it do really give out that kind of
non hassle experience when it comes to playing gambling which they wouldnt really be having some headache.In speaking with KYc then it turns out that this had become the
standard of todays or simply it is something which is really that inevitable to happen once you do touch up regulated platforms.

Of course, the development of such smart contracts is extremely complex and time-consuming. 
And by the way, the price of devs errors is very high.  Even small bugs can completely ruin the whole game.  But I think that the topic of developing such games is very relevant and someone will definitely work in this direction.  First of all, because many millions of people are disgusted that some centralized services, such as online casinos, constantly require KYC. 
And even those casinos that did not require verification before, comply with the requirements of regulators and gradually more and more of them require KYC.

Guys I have a friend who programs a lot and knows about smart contracts, he sometimes calls me because he is in Spain and doesn't work with that but he has done many courses and even with google, he has a lot of knowledge and knows how to program contacts, and He also understands them and knows when there are people who want to take advantage of others with the same thing, he is nothing more than saying and I can leave them his telegram, he tells me that there are many crooks who always want to take advantage of people to carry out their thefts and swindle them, he is able to unmask them, that is what he has told me, just in case any casino has problems because they have a key chip that can help them.

KYC is very important to crypto gambling over the years now and not just crypto gambling but gambling in general so as to enhance transpacific behavior of user in their casino and also avoid and prevent money laundering in any form on their casino.

KYC was also induced as a form of regulations mostly by the gambling board to help track the identity of players who are suspected of an criminal activity on the casino.

It is true that some gamblers if no majority of gamblers would prefer to stay anonymous while playing games so as to feel safe and more confident but the truth is that, most of this casinos will never review your identity to anyone without your consent.

I understand what you are pointing out, KYC is the tool for casino to verify their users and check whether each account created on the platform is unique individuals.  That is the casino ways of establishing any valuable proof if things like hacking, cheating, bugging, or exploitation via multi-accounting are suspected in an account


Anonymous gambling had been popular because of the implementation of cryptocurrency into the gambling platform and the creation of cryptocurrency Casinos.  Originally, Online Casinos implement KYC because they connect the player's banking account or any financial institution to the casino and they need to verify if the owner of the account is the actual owner of the cards used for gambling.




True that is why most casino owner prefer to use centralized casino because the security of this kind of casino is already established.  While decentralized casino is still in a testing phase and the technology isn't full furnised since there are lots of bugs and glitches in the system.  We can prove it by looking at its DeFi platform counterparts where hacking is almost a normal event.

There are still a few casinos that do not charge KYC. If you are on a gambling site that is not licensed by Malta, Curacao or any other reputable jurisdiction, there is a good chance you can play without KYC. If you are on a gambling site licensed by MGA or Curacao, rest assured that a check is necessary as the licensing providers require it. The rules have been tightened up considerably in recent years, I have read, so in fact gambling sites have no other choice. We would all prefer to play without KYC, but that is a thing of the past. There are also sites where you have to account for your entire wealth.

As regulation and laws are becoming more tighter then it wont really be that surprising if these non-kyc casinos or any platforms which are involved with or attached with crypto transactions then it would really be that

understandable that they would really be going on that way.Yes, we do have still casinos nowadays which doesnt have licenses but surprisingly they are able to get sufficient number of users or simply get that

marketshare.People do really give out the importance of total anonymity when they do play gambling but somewhat we do know on whats the exchange for that pros which on the case if the house
do rans away then there's no way of tracing it out.

There are several regulations from leading licensing jurisdictions that have been tightened to verify user data on each gambling platform so that KYC rules have been officially added to the terms and conditions in gambling, but only some gamblers refuse KYC regulations for privacy reasons but other gamblers have no problem with KYC because works to avoid money laundering and other crimes, KYC regulations are not a problem for gamblers if we use top gambling platforms that have been recommended in forums. I recommend avoiding gambling platforms that offer zero KYC because they are not licensed by official jurisdictions so the reputation of the gambling platforms is very low and our account assets are not guaranteed to be protected safely.

There are some more reasons other than the privacy ones, that gamblers do not want to do the KYC on the gambling site. There s no grantee that your KYC data is secured on the gambling site and they could misuse your data or even sell it to third parties and get good money out of it

I understand that government want regulations and impose the KYC but what steps they did took to ensure the safety of this data by the sites ?
I think government should be more concerned about it and introduce strict rules for the safety of people's data.

I hope the jurisdictions monitoring user data have completed KYC verification on each partner of the gambling platform, they must ensure user data is protected safely and pressure the gambling platform team not to misuse user KYC data. However, we expect the role of the government to punish if any perpetrator has misused user KYC data for criminal purposes and even sold data anonymously on the black market web.

You really have a brilliant idea here, but these can only be implemented in a country whose law is implemented as clearly started in the constitution, unlike most countries where corruption is the order of the day in mostt high government offices, that authorize exchange to sell our data without the peoples knowledge

this is why it is always advisable to just submit kyc if it is indeed necessary. some casinos here don't require kyc even if it is stated on their terms. however, you should always be ready in case they ask for it. but as much as possible better play and spend significant amount of wagering funds in a reputable casino. so in case they need kyc, you won't feel that they are just asking it for nothing.

Maybe those who don't want to do KYC should strictly limit their use of money for gambling and not do anything that would raise the suspicions of the casino against them.
Never gamble with a lot of money if you are not prepared for the risk behind it.
And try to play at a reputable casino so that if you have to do KYC, your data will be safe with them.
And you also have to be prepared to do KYC in the future because this is probably what all casinos will do if the regulators force them to do it for all their users.

No. It’s still absurd to play in the casino at the first place even with this limitation just to hide from the eye of Casino for a possible KYC since all the casino ToS stated that they can imply it whenever they want it. A non-KYC fan should not play in the casino because they are just limiting themselves by playing with risk of exposing there privacy.

Here’s some list that will trigger alarm for Casino security to impose KYC on account and at the same time things that will limit user to experience on casino:

• They are not allowed to win huge amount or jackpot prize
• Playing only with small amount and manage to win most of the time
• Use of VPN
• Multiple deposit from different address

Much better to play on decentralized casino that doesn’t require KYC rather than risk playing on casino that has a threat on doing it.

But unfortunately there are not many decentralized casinos that are available and can be made an option for players, or even if there are sometimes centralized casinos are still more attractive in many ways, such as when traders have to choose between decentralized and centralized exchanges, yes DEX is safer because we have access to private Key but the trading volume and low amount of DEX keeps CEX the choice.
I've only seen a few decentralized casinos on this forum, even though they're not that well-known, some of them don't exist anymore the slow development of decentralized casinos has finally made them unable to survive in this gambling business, and KYC will always be a hot topic of discussion, there will always be pros and cons, and whatever choice the player chooses, they have to be prepared for all the risks that arise.

Well said, and you have covered it all, nothing has merits without demerits, which was why I always advocate KYC and more regulations to the disbelieve of others as such have their merits too.

Besides, since there are still some decentralized casinos, one could still take advantage of them no matter how scarce they could be. And I don't think they are scarce or diminishing because they are decentralized, but because they don't attract gamblers with bonuses and perks that would make them register and stay like the centralized casinos.

Some casino have limited withdrawal or deposit trough account still not KYC yet, I think good ideas when afraid with KYC on casino account based on hidden identity better limited amount for gambling. But have alternative way by gambling on several casino site without needed KYC and spent above $100 until $300 each casino website.

Actually almost the same with exchange market, huge deposit and withdrawing need to increase it by submit KYC, if aware with KYC procedure and won't publish with document ID better use several kinds casino gambling for increasing limit withdrawing or deposit. I don't think have ideas with huge amount withdrawal with one casino gambling site only.

If you want to transact in a reputable casino freely, better comply with the KYC so you won't have any trouble whenever you deposit or withdraw huge funds. I was also hesitant in submitting my details just to comply with the KYC requirements but I felt relieved because I was able to access all the features on the site and won't have issues whenever I withdraw and deposit my funds regardless of the amount. I think it all depends on the casino. If you want to make sure that your details are safe, make sure to choose a highly trusted and reputable casino.

Yes you are right that mate if you are a gambler then you should gamble in the most reputable casino because once you gamble in a reputable casino then you have the assurance of your money cause in a reputable casino your funds will be safe and also you don't need to worry about the withdrawal once you deposits then you can withdraw your money when you want to withdraw.

most of the time people do not have proof of address because they are people who are still at their parents' or uncles' or grandparents' house, so all documents are in the name of their parents or uncles or grandparents and these people cannot deliver the document of residence to the casino. proof of address, that's why you're afraid of KYC, but also most people who earn with cryptocurrencies can't deliver proof of income, and casinos know that, but then why the hell do they ask for it? and I have never heard any casinos come and say they were fined by the license provider because the casino doesn't ask for KYC, has anyone heard that?


also the person has a little more security that when doing KYC the casino will not sell your documents, because the big problem is doing KYC in a casino where you do not know who the owners of the casino are, where the casino is located, the casino is new and without reputation, the casino does not sponsor anything in the real world so in this type of casino people have to avoid doing KYC, the casino can sell people's documents and one day some criminal will commit crime using document of some customer of the casino that had its documents stolen and it takes a long time for the police to find out the whole truth

You brought to mind a tweet I saw today about phone numbers being sold on the dark web, which stresses the importance of personal documents and information. The majority of those phone numbers are associated with various people all over the world, so I couldn't help but wonder what bad actors could do with them.

Back to documents and KYC in casinos: a reputable casino would take all reasonable precautions to protect player data and funds, but let's be honest with ourselves: if you complete KYC at any casino and they decide to sell your information at some point, you will never know and you won't suspect them because you are accustomed to disclosing personal information to the public, we should learn to normalized No KYC.

Some of our people do not understand that KYC is good and also important, whenever a platform that deal's with casino make an emphasis on casino KYC verification that's means that they are protecting your interest and also protect the interest of their company which is well known due to understanding. instead some people prefer some of casino website that doesn't support KYC and make their bet on casino, which from my insight it's not a welcomed development.

My country have been usual habit when your document selling at dark web, I think with mobile phone number not matter again with thousand time inbox message coming from unknow sender and thousand spam sending every day. I don't think with how hidden our document ID when KYC for casino gambling because submit or not our document not hidden or privacy again.

But bit problem when document used for KYC at gambling casino based on majority our country religion are moslem, I think all my gambler in my countries not really agree have to submit KYC with several casino gambling site, they keep try hidden document ID although active with playing several casino gambling.

Majority of us wont really be liking on having that KYc and this is why crypto based gambling sites or casinos did really get soo much attention due to the fact that it do really opposes out centralization or kyc,

but we do go far ahead where regulations becomes more tight and strict then this is where these platforms are starting out to comply or else they cant really be having their operation
or something have a problem towards regulation or something like that.

Although, we do have still casinos nowadays which are fully anonymous and can be trusted.This is why as a gambler then we do still have some options
whether we do comply with those KYC-ed sites or would really be sticking into those anonymous ones.

This is true but nevertheless that is only applicable to those KYC required casinos that will always need that for their user verification, but in other way round we still have some zero KYC casinos which does not require all the unnecessary proofs before you can enjoy their services except if the gambler does not know any.


Truly we have casinos differences but nevertheless this same casino can decide to come up with that at any point in time wince they aren't zero KYC required casino, others have been doing this same thing but I wish you don't wait till the date you will be denied some features when KYC is required before you take a drastic step.


Or preferably a zero KYC tolerance casino.

All gamblers can choose a gambling platform without any requirements related to identity or the casino has followed the requirements of the regulator, but we are talking about data protection and fair play, then if you find a casino that is completely anonymous and meets both criteria then it's your decision, but many top casinos must follow the rules of the regulations but not strictly require KYC for all users but only for high withdrawals, high wins, suspected money laundering and others.

All the points you mentioned seem valid and reasonable and may indeed trigger the ant-cheat mechanism, except the last one.
For crypto deposits/withdrawals it's so common to use different addresses so I don't think casinos will consider it as a suspecious activity.
However, depositing/withdrawing from/to the same address into/from different accounts is.

Can you name some of those decentralized casinos. I'm interested and want to give them a try.

And this is where people or do should really know the importance on reading up terms and conditions of a particular site or platform.Its true that casinos nowadays doesnt really ask out for some

verification on the time you do make out some registration or on the time that you do make out withdrawal.Some are just asking out whenever you do withdraw huge amounts or
they do able to get or notice out some suspicious behavior or betting on gamblers side.

If everything turns out to be okay then i dont think there should be any problem.They key here is that you should really know and choose up gambling sites
which are reputable or known.

That's true because as gamblers who don't want to do KYC, we have freedom in choosing the casino. If, later on, the casino asks us to do KYC on our way to gamble, we can move to another casino that doesn't ask us to do KYC. Besides that, I'm sure those of us who have been playing gambling for a long time must have had many casino choices that don't require KYC to be made on their users. But if we are fine with doing KYC on the casino site we use, we can do it immediately if the casino asks for it.

criminals have many skills, they can use someone's phone number to commit crimes, I've seen it in the news where criminals take many phone numbers from various people and then send messages to these people making threats, blackmail in return the victim pay money to them, also these criminals can clone people's phone numbers and commit many crimes, I'm particularly always afraid to give my phone number on websites


well, it's true that the biggest problem with doing KYC in casinos is precisely the danger of them selling our data, and these new casinos are more dangerous because they may have created casinos just to steal people's money and if they create casinos to steal people's money so they are greedy and will not feel that they shouldn't sell people's documents, they will definitely not think twice to sell people's documents, I don't do KYC in new casinos, I only do KYC in old casinos and that are very reliable, for example I only did KYC at stake.com and not at other casinos


I agree, that's why you need to avoid doing KYC in new casinos until the casino shows that they can be trusted and that is something that takes a long time for a casino to manage to have a good reputation and be reliable, for example, these days here on the forum they appeared 2 new casinos that have asked for KYC and these two casinos that appeared here on the forum have a high indication of being scam

KYC has become a major part of our life that we can not deviate from, even to operate fairly with cryptocurrency one still need to undergo some form of KYC which makes it impossible to do without.
But then a lot of other privacy-minded users will rather play on only none KYC casinos but we have only a few of such 100% KYC-free casinos since regulations are climbing down on them.

Nowadays it is difficult to choose a gambling casino that does not require KYC. They have policies under which they will operate. Despite the fact that we will be faced with policies, it is increasingly difficult to avoid KYC in gambling because of the large cash flow. However, crypto casinos are still said to be tolerant of their users, i.e. they only require KYC if any action is detected against the rules. Therefore, you just need to be good at filtering which casinos will at least make you feel a little bit unencumbered by KYC.

You're right but in addition to that, they can require for kyc at any point in time regardless of weather you break the rules or not, that is why they are categorized under KYC casinos, if you don't want to have this kind of request for KYC in present or future time to come, then try to choose a crypto casino that has no requirement for KYC and ensure that you're right with your assumption on their trust to be a KYC free casino, but what we should ask about those involved in demanding for KYC is that, does it ends the means to all manner of abuse with money laundering and crime rates that have been dealing with the presently.

But what if you already have a balance on that gambling site and suddenly you are being asked to do a KYC? I think it's hard to decide on this one if we will just leave our funds on that casino and find another non KYC casino or we will swallow our pride and took the challenge. This is usually the case that happens. I think this one is not fair.

A professional casino should warn their costumers before they deposit or play if KYC is needed later on or not so that the people can decide if they will continue or not. Your long term experience in gambling has nothing to do with the casino that ask a KYC or not because their policy can always change.

better read thoroughly the ToS of the site if you are depositing large funds later on. submission of kyc is needed when you have large winnings or they notice unusual activity in your account. to avoid such problem to happen, stick to the terms of the site and as much as possible don't give reasons to the site to check your account to the point of requiring kyc because you have irregular activity or you have done something that caught their eyes.

KYC was never part of our life, it was implemented and forced on financial institutions to weed out laundering money but we all know that for every merit, there are one or two demerits, however, in the case of KYC, the Demerits outweighed the merits and if you start from the beginning of this thread, that is what most users has been discussing. We can do without KYC, it shouldn't be forced on people who don't want to, if the regulators fear that there will be some sort of criminalities in crypto casinos, it happens everywhere even with the banks.

KYC shouldn't be compulsory or a prerequisite to playing in Casino, they could at most make some limit to funds and may make it mandatory for players who wants to incase a player deposits money they suspected, if they lift these things, it will not only increase players, it increases revenues for casinos.

I want to ask don't you think that some of the platforms that does not have a kyc verification do not crash in time or do not have a problem after making a payment because I see again twice irrigations and something that is very meaningful and important to learn every gampola program was having a zero kyc verification I think that counts cause a very big problem and i think will cause a problem in time coming

Casino that choose to not have a KYC can have a big problem later with lots of complains. I will rather choose a less required KYC casinos so that in case I have may problem or my account got hacked, I can be able to resolve it without bigger problem which can be very easy for us than casinos that will take serious time to help you solve your problem because of no KYC.

Any casino that does not have a kyc verification now casino platform is supposed to be far from because sometimes it is something that makes some people to lose their money or something certain platforms run away with some papers for me because I have no licence of operation so I believe that all this kyc verification is very important

I will first ask customer service if I can withdraw the balance in my account or do I have to go through the KYC process until I get verification, then I can withdraw the balance. If I am asked to do KYC verification before withdrawing the balance, I may do KYC but I will think about it first.

If the balance is not too big or even just a small balance, I will leave it in that balance but if it is a rather large balance, like it or not, I have to do KYC first. We know that KYC will be needed later so we have to be prepared when it comes and for that, we don't need to keep a balance that is too big so we can leave the casino straight away if we don't want to do KYC.

Not really, Freebitco.in is zero KYC casino and still exist until now, don't forget they have a promotion to give a lambo to one lucky winner. They're not lying and always do their promise, so even though Freebitco.in doesn't have any license, it's the most trusted zero KYC casino.

Unlike the site you promote that doesn't have any license and zero KYC too, but the activities is just trick the newbies to make deposit and then block their withdrawal, the money is used for the team profit and the signature campaign payment lol.

Well that is also a very valid option, I imagine that when they assume that KYC is requested it is because they think that the user could also have lost that information or if it was hacked, that can happen, if so they would only have to explain the matter and through of the KYC to determine that it is the owner of the account, of course this goes much further, it would be a very special case, but personally I still think that no casino likes the KYC for many of these reasons, but they feel obliged to they have to do it so that they do not lose their licenses or permits that are required of them, if there is a lack of licenses, then some players will not play with confidence and the authenticity of the casino will be put in suspense.


Well, this is something really debatable, for example, the case of Freebitco.in is a platform that breaks with certain standards, first, they do not request KYC and they handle large amounts of money in Bitcoin, second, they do not have a problem with their faucet, a person can spend as much time as necessary to be there they don't block you or anything, in fact you can withdraw when you reach the established minimum, and they do it without problems, so this is something that sometimes I don't understand about other sites that do have KYC verification, Sometimes I think that having certain games on the platform must be a requirement, just like slots, that's what I analyze, it's a simple assumption of mine.

It is very good that there is no KYC in this casino now, and players can easily withdraw their money. 

However, this does not mean at all that the same casino will suddenly not introduce KYC, when everyone is already used to the fact that it does not exist.  Of course, casinos without KYC attract a lot more players because people always don't like to verify their identity once and for all.  This takes time from the game and in the future in the event of a data leak (and many years of experience show that such leaks of personal data occur all the time, this is inevitable) also does not give anything good to a person, except for possible troubles.  But at the request of the authorities, legislators and regulatory authorities, casino developers can quite urgently and unexpectedly oblige to conduct KYC. 
And you should always be ready for it.

Employing KYC measures adds a safety layer for players and the gambling site altogether. This weeds out hackers as you would need to provide verification before you could cash the money out. And the gambling site in theory is saved from troubles caused by hackers as they are pushed away from the site. Of course with increasing amounts of complex algorithms and hacking methods hackers could now get a hold of your information as easy as picking their noses, although this isn't the case for everything. I think I went off into a tangent there but bottomline is, adding KYC measures makes you feel more secure about the gambling site, and it altogether helps ensure that no funds are stolen whatsoever on both ends.