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You know how casinos have set certain slots to only pay a certain amount to a winner, it it also possible that casinos are using an algorithm to limit how much it can payout for players coming from certain locations to avoid being dragged into legal disputes if a player is paid big money and the local authorities want to know the source and the alike?

I do not know about those illegally operated casinos, but if a casino has a licence and operate legally, it would be in the ToS that certain regions or countries are not allowed to make use of their gambling services. This would help against what you are talking about as they operate legally. Which means all money won by customers has nothing to do with the regulators or governments than paying tax.

Isn't it a unfair practice though if casino's are deliberately doing it?

What if someone find out or some insider leaked that out? for sure the reputation of that casino will be hit hard. I know that we don't have any sources about this thing, but for me casino's are not that stupid do to this kind of thing.

They can still make a lot of money without being resorting to this kind of algorithm, just saying.

I don't think an online casino will restrict a player from winning big based on the country where he is playing from,that is why it's online so that the casino can be accessed from any part of the world. If a casino wants to restrict, they will restrict the gamblers from a particular country not the funds to be won. Though the casinos are always making profit because of the house hedge.

Winning big can can't scare a casino from restricting a certain amount to gamblers from a particular country with their algorithm, casinos that are operating legally knows that they are to pay their tax to the government, and as a gambler when you win big,if the government knows ,there is nothing that can be done about it,if gambling is legalize in that country. It is only if gambling is not legalize in your country that it can be a great problem.
It is only the illegal casinos that can restrict gamblers to a particular winning,because the are scams.

Every country have their peculiar laws on gambling and money laundering and registered casinos are expected to obey or respect these rules. Also every casino must have their terms and conditions that must be open to current customers or prospective ones. If a gambler is comfortable with these terms and conditions, he would gladly use the casino firm.

But if the casino has some secret techniques by which they use to control payout, then it is very wrong. As long as they are not violating the laws of the land, there is no need to be afraid of the countries law enforcement agencies.Winning big in a casino is a well-known source of wealth globally, the local authority shouldn't be surprise when someone suddenly becomes a millionaire.  

It seems to me that what you are saying is a nonsense that you have pulled out of your hat without any basis.

Precisely if you went to the Scam Accusations board you would see that what usually happens when someone wins big is that they ask for KYC, to make sure they are not playing from a country not allowed with VPN or something, and then there are players who had not read the ToS previously who open a thread on that board with the case.

The reality is much simpler than the conspiracy you raise.

I don't think they'd do, they honestly have no reason to do it since it isn't exactly their problem if their users have issues with regard to their finances. It wouldn't even be a legal dispute imo since they'd have proof of transactions so if ever they'd be put as a scapegoat, they can perfectly leave the case all fine, and might even ask for reparations. Casinos are only afraid of the laws of casino that pertain to "gambling" related regulations, outside of that, especially considering if it was online casinos, I don't think they'd ever fear anything, except maybe an especially lucky person that can bankrupt them  ;)

So if I am understanding it correctly you are saying that they are messing with the RTP as some slot providers allows the casino to do that,and in order for people coming from such countries based on location they to change automatically the RTP,this can be done with ease from any casino operator.

If it is legal or not I cannot say as the casino is the business owner and if they don't advertise any fixed RTP then it is legal but I find it difficult that nowadays casinos to come to this "last resort" for such users,most likely they play fair to everyone,it is up to the winner then to deal with local authorities.

Well, if you're an audited person that pays taxes to the government for winning money on casinos, isn't this an unfair one? This is a gross income too. Is this even universal even to an online casino that they issue limit to the winners on what they can pay because they win a huge amount?

Can you mention which the casino you refer to? I don't find any casino who did this, what I know the casino only limit a gamblers from specific locations, they're not gave any limit about the winning amount and how much the max bet that the gambler can gamble.

I think it must be a scam casino since they're not want to pay big winning to the gambler and then accuse him because he came from restricted country.

Where did you get this idea that there are possibly casinos that are acting this way?

I think this is not happening. If a country is not within the casino's list of blacklisted countries then what's the point of limiting their slots? On the contrary, the casino would even try their best to promote their platform in whatever ways possible just to gain more players and bets. They would even spend a big amount for sponsorships and partnerships.

Why would the casino be dragged into legal disputes if it has the license and the registration?

The casinos wouldn't be problematic wherever their players are from. If a player is rightful and have won with huge wins, they'll just have to give it away and allow it to be cashed out if there's no problem found.

It's the sole duty of the player to think about how he's going to take it wherever he's from. It's already out of the casinos jurisdiction if the player will face some taxation based on his winnings.

The only thing that casino is concerned about are the countries that they're prohibiting to gain access on them. But there are some that still allows it through the usage of VPN.

Except you are saying this incase the country of domicile could be investigating for money laundering or traces of source of money for those that have ban bitcoin or receiving cryptocurrency and they are paying the money gradually into the players account to avoid the player being in trouble with the country, otherwise that is illegal to restrict payment of winner and the casino deserve to be reported or scam accusation thread open against them.

Doesn't the problem or dispute that occur in the gambling Slot Machine Algorithm system depend on a particular location or area.

According to my understanding, the local government will investigate gambling activities in large scale winnings depending on how the casino operates in a particular area illegal or legal, for me winning big or small certain casinos will not lose, of course there is a reason.
To be sure I refer to the source below.

From this quote it can be concluded that no matter how a player wins or loses in slots, I don't think they, the casino can lose, although there will be disputes that will occur between players and casinos, even if the government is involved in it, because the way the algorithm works is very clear.

I don't think this being done by casinos to discriminate against some people from certain countries. This is my own opinion and I can't proof it, but so far I haven't read or heard about the issue before. If it were true than this wold would be a big scandal that could potentially ruin a casino. I would stay away from the casino if I knew that some IP adresses are getting worse winning chances. How could you ever trust again the casino if games are decided on a player basis? And still this sounds like a huge operation where the casino could not keep quite. For example one angry employee could just leak the whole situation and ruin the business model. The risk seems not worth it in my opinion, because the casino is already making enough money with their traditional games. There is no real need to lower wining chances or gamblers. And in the end it's the gamblers duty to explain to the government where he made the money and to make sure he pays his taxes.

If it's possibility then yes, there is a chance. But how will us know? Things such as algorithms and manipulation are limited to the 'house' itself. That is why checking its credibility via survey to its users, would be a great help. Also, if you are that long playing in a gambling site or casino, you'd surely be able to observe that.

But I doubt it is concerned with location because their goal is to get more players so why would they voluntarily limit people? Restrictions on the other hand is another thing because local governments would instantly block online gambling site, so if it is accessible, and with the use of blockchain technology, players could still play.

well, it's a clear rule that those who don't have access or have their access blocked and use a VPN won't get any specials or waivers on big unpaid wins. Actually they don't want to do restrictions, this is only because the regulations of each country are different and the blocking is done. Casinos have their own algorithms and they make them for their benefit as well as for the benefit of the players. The more players that enter, the more profits.

It is possible but highly unlikely.

If casinos pay a player from a country a big money he has won and the authorities have an issue with it, the major penalty will be to their citizen who may have broken a law. I don't think it is totally possible for online casino's to restrict people from certain locations. It is possible that these casino's can be accessed via a strong Virtual Private Network, and since the payout is mostly in cryptocurrency, anonymity can still be ensured by strategically withdrawing the money from the casino's in bits that do not prompt for KYC verification. Some times these individuals have strategies to outsmart the casinos, and the authorities in those countries cannot blame the casino for not being able to detect or pay attention to finding out the location of someone.

But then there are many gamblers who are playing from non-allowed regions by using VPN and do not get caught. (Or gambling houses don't care as long as people are depositing and playing).

In order for the casino to stop someone from winning big is to put restrictions on how much deposit you can make. The more you deposit, you can gamble with a big amount, resulting in a big win.

Another possibility is to limit the maximum amount you can bet on each game so that even if you win the highest percentage, your total winnings are under a certain threshold.

There's no barrier to location where you are in gambling or neither does it got affected tobthe rate of amounts you can use to stake or win, as long as a casino is used and has good licencing that back it up, a gambler is entirely free to bet and gamble with a reasonable amount and if won also there's no barrier to restrict gamblers from claiming thier winnings as long as they have the slip with them and were not suspected for a bad intension or attempts for cheat, if a player wins big, the casino may require a transfer of the gambler to their head office for payout.

But that is never a good idea, the person can fall victim of his own mistake if already included in the ToS of the gambling site that no VPN is allowed, or if he part of the people from a country not allowed to make use of the gambling site.

I don't think decent online casinos will impose disparities based on your location, that will be detrimental to their business. Only a handful of people, even to this day, will bother installing a VPN to bypass borders and preventing the ones who can't be bothered to install these networks will also hinder you, the casino, from getting more customers. I have been made aware of certain casinos rigging their games, but I don't think that applies to online casinos or at least as I said earlier, the ones that are decent enough.

It is possible that casinos can do all sorts of tricky stuff with the algorithms behind the scenes, but the real fact is they do not really need to do such things. Once casinos reach a critical mass of players, they can often sustain themselves in a totally legitimate manner because every single game they offer customers is geared to pay them money over the long term. Even sports betting companies engineer their odds with an extra buffer to guarantee profitability. They are sitting on top of money printing machines and professional operations often have no interest in the type of manipulation you describe, they're better off funneling money towards advertising to draw in new players.

That’s slot machine and probably the casinos are using something to limit the number of winners or else, many will make money if they didn’t control it and that mat cause them a bankruptcy. Casinos knows how to win always and that’s the reality even if the authority asked them for this, they can easily defend that because that’s how gambling works and we have to deal with that.

I also don't think they will focus on manipulating the algo of their machines.
Because if someone got a hold of it, their reputation may be ruined and so their business.
It is more on how they will attract their patrons and building credibility, where they will generate more income.
Remember, if the casino/bookie owners don't know what they are doing, their business won't stay long.

If its an industry practice someone from casinos will tell us or spill it that they are doing it, but so far no one has come out yet, we are just speculating that they are because of the restriction set up, this is unfair for players just because they are on that location and its cheating on the part of the casinos if there are manipulations, if casinos accept players from a specific country to play in their casinos, it should have a fair chance like all the other players.

looking at the casinos in the TOS of most of them is clear: It is forbidden to use the casino if the person lives in a restricted country, then the casinos would not be manipulating an algorithm to limit the earnings of people from certain countries, this would be unethical and unfair, as all customers who are in a legal situation have the same rights does not matter the color of the person or country, if that person lives in a poor country and they charge high taxes but can use casinos then this person has the same rights as a person from a rich country who can use casinos, now they are manipulating the algorithm to limit people's earnings or payouts, I don't see how this is something right and legal. maybe i'm wrong but i see this of manipulating the algorithm as something wrong


I also agree, and I wonder why OP is asking this strange question, it sounds like OP wants to do something strange, I suspect that OP is asking this question without him not having a specific objective, but I still can't understand what he intends


scammers are capable of anything, in scammer casinos they can handle anything

Maybe possible to pull off on land-based casinos and online casinos that's not provably fair. I mean you can verify the results of your game in most online casinos today so it will be tough for them to rig the game.

I think you are already familiar with what they do when a player wins big. It's the usual suspend after further review and then comes the "violated TOS" justification hehe.

This sound very interesting but I still don't agree with you on this opinion because we all know that anybody can sue a casino depending on what it is really involved. If a casino decided to limit people from a particular region on how much it can payout for players in order to avoid legal battles from fortunate players then I think that casino is truly not ready for business.
 Casinos are supposed to be reliable and universal when we talk about treating players equally. We should all know that it is only a scam casino that will want to limit players based on region when it comes to payout.

That's subjective, each casino can do that but if they want to, they always should go with the automated process through the algo's code and they have no control over its result. They can just increase the chance for the house and decrease the chance for their players.

When they're already built and reputed, that's when they can change some policies and things that will be definitely favorable to them. But in terms of games, they're just getting it from their providers so they have no hold and touch on it.

Wow. This is my first time hearing about this. They must put it on their Terms of Services (TOS). But if ever this is true, this is a big L for most online casinos.
But I don't think there are some issues with this if the customer is following their Terms Of Services (TOS). If customers agreed about doing some compliance process, they can do it. I believe these online casinos already have trigger or warning for some customers that will withdraw a huge amount off from their platform.

Just like what the others have said above, it's possible but I doubt that the casino owners are willing to put some middle point on their geo-restrictions as they're usually one way or the other. And I think it's better that way since having small and limited payouts would just discourage the players to come back and play regularly when they're blocked off from potentially getting bigger wins and payouts.

A lot of people here are answering with utter nonsense, and I'm certainly not going to be one to act like they know for sure what the answer is here like some people are, but for what it's worth I've been told in the past there is a way for Casinos to show that their payouts are provably fair, though I completely forget how, I think it depends on the Casino.  But I'm curious what the true answer to this is just as much as you.

The OP has not been very successful with his hunch, because it is nothing more than a hunch.

A casino can make a lot of money without doing weird things like he posits, if it is able to attract enough players (through advertising) and able to keep them coming back (by providing them with a good user experience, plus promos, etc.). Add to that a good management of funds and we see that online casinos are extremely profitable, just look at the gambling section of this forum and the signature campaigns.

They don't need to do weird things like the OP thinks,

I think they don't do such things but they rather limit a player from that kind of region. Some regions especially south America and Middle East obviously, can have tight controls on wealth. This is very disruptive for a gambling business. So this is my opinion though, they go directly to block these nationalities at door. I feel so sad about people from those regions, having huge issues just to play slots.

I don't think this companies would do such thing as the consequences they know wouldn't be funny.
Just as my mate@pierre said that, the doors are rather shot at some nationalities with tight control of wealth and I agree with him because, even without the said algorithm, they could still make alot of money rather than risking the company's reputation

You really don't have to condemn wat others have to say since you as well don't have a concrete answer to this
Everyone who made a comment, I guess were trying to assist the OP get clarity on the question he just asked

I doubt it because that is not really the problem of the casino, if you win big at a casino it is your responsibility as a tax payer to declare that income, depending on where you are located that money could be tax-free or you could need to pay a percentage of those profits to the government, but the casino has nothing to do with that process.

Also it seems way more simple for a casino to ban players coming from some countries where laws are very strict than to somehow modify and adjust their games to give out different payouts depending on the country at which their players reside.

I heard many time website don't allow users for using VPNs, so if the user using another trick like DNS (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5386649.msg59316982#msg59316982), is this problem?. The big problem with gambling sites is they live in countries with don't allow users who have enthusiasm for gambling, I hope in the future this big problem solved with an MOU between them.

One of the things that we gamblers hate besides delayed withdrawal, and if there is a hint of manipulation, we hate all forms of manipulation, it could be on the seed, on the provably fair, or anything, no gamblers will play if they find out that the casino manipulated their results not to favor your country to win big, it's worse than delayed payment because you already lose a chance to win big by casino manipulating the results through location, but so far there is no accusation of that sort.

I've never found this in the T&C of any of the casinos because if they implemented this without including it in the T&C players would accuse it of cheating on the part of the casino.
But I think there is no such thing because the max win applied in a slot game is enough to limit the player's winnings because the amount that will be obtained will depend on the value of the bet.

You have sense, I thought I was the only one thinking this. It did not start with online casinos, it started with online trading and betting on the markets, there are some countries they dare not trash with, or else, they would regret it. The advanced countries are peculiar to better perks and treatments, and in case you didn't know, you might think you guys are betting on the same platform, but they often redirect them to their different sites/platforms.

Different service/treatments to different regions, this is not just happening. It even happens among fiat payment systems to show how peculiar it is.

If it is a local casino, they may use it to limit the amount of money the winner can withdraw or limit the winning money that the gambler can win. But if it's from a casino site, I think it will be difficult but the casino can easily not allow the winner to withdraw his winnings and use various excuses not to pay his winnings.

And if it happens at a local casino, maybe the winner can report it to the local government to investigate so that the authority can ask the casino and the winner can get the total winnings. But I also do not understand legal issues like this.

For slot machines, of course, they can set the RTP so that they will have all the advantage, i.e. house edge.

But as far as the premise of the OP, I totally disagree with it, casino's will and should not go that extent, it's already cheating per se. Again, they can set up everything to favor them, but I doubt that they will cheat it that way. Let the house edge win the game for them. Because as the longer we play, the higher the chances that we are going to lose.

Good question, but I guess casinos won't bother to pay more to program a specific location where they limit a payout for users located in that particular territory, because they can do it generally if they want to. Besides, VPN can be very helpful in this matter.
Unfortunately, this will eliminate the "provably fair" motto for most of the casinos. And, we don't exactly know whether or not the algorithm their using is fair enough for both the casino and their clients.

I don't think so they will intentionally so this because there's some really restriction in other country I guess you saw a slot.games and tons of people.make a huge wins in that game so you came up with that idea. Actually most likely restrictions happen if the country limits those accessibility and at the same time is not yet authorized to release their games in that country.
If that casino supports VPN why not you can freely use those to access these games.

That's an interesting topic and theory why did you think that casinos are resorting to this, even if its a speculation there should be a basis, is it because you are not winning big and there are people you know from other locations that win big amounts, we really never know unless there is something like an exposee or a reliable data but the question who will do a study of the data, I'd like to believe that we all have a fair chance and it's not about location, it's hard to think the other way.

And that is where cryptocurrencies will come in.
This is also the reason why online gambling sites are being targeted by money laundering schemes and so the other reason why the government keeps an eye on them.
Locations with strict amounts about how much it can pay out are a drag for those who can really bet big.
But right now, there are options to just play in a physical casino instead of online because most of them are opening again. In there, I don't think they will be limited by such small amounts.

i dont think any casino will do this or currently doing it, if you know any or the casinos involved in this kind of act, then maybe you should mention them here so that gamblers will take care from gambling on such casinos.

Such an act to me is unlawful, unfair and shouldn't be taken lightly if a gambler finds out, just imagine after loosing so much on a casino and one day, luck decides to smile at you and a game you were supposed to win lets say $50k, the casino cut it down to $1,500 all in the name of not wanting to get involved in a legal matter because such an amount is too big based on the location or region you are gambling from, how would you feel ? it is absolutely unfair to the gambler and if any casino does such to me, I will drag them to court.

Knowing too well, most gambling site has their restricted areas of withdrawal or limitations of amount which a user can be able to withdraw from the sites. If it happens that your location is limited or restricted then you can actually use ip or vpn to access site from restrictions location. To me I will advise to make sure to read their terms and conditions before engaging yourself otherwise you might allowed to withdraw.

I've never heard of such a case in crypto online casinos, by using an algorithm to limit winnings, isn't that forbidden that's not fair the casino you mean even is not worth it. Regarding the amounts of crypto withdrawals it should be the same limit as users in legal gambling countries, if it's different possibility is fiat money only but for crypto all same limit.

Normally i Casino has no right to denied any gambler right in claiming his winnings because of geographical location and this shouldn't be a barrier for a gambler to claim his win, they can refer the gambler for security reasons and make it official, as to the best of my knowledge most casinos don't award big winnings in their local offices, they will always make a need for the provisioned to be transferred.


Except for the scamming casinos will act such a way without presenting winners their winnings, reporting to the local authorities isn't effective enough to tackle this, but one can also take a legal action against them if such could happens, let also try to investigate on the kind of particular casino we make use of in playing our gamble in other to avoid future disappointments of such manners from any.

Fairness should be implemented for everyone who is playing on the gambling site. Their fair treatment of their players when it comes to winning withdrawals regardless of their country will reflect on their reputation. There are already countries that restrict some casino games from specific providers but implementing algorithms with unfair payment is too unjustifiable.

Yeah, they won't be getting those special promos and offers from those that are not from restricted countries. But if you're a gambler and you want to play on that certain casino, that won't matter to you as long as you're allowed to gamble there with the use of VPN.

They have to comply to the regulators if they're not allowed to operate there or if there's a conflict of interest that's being applied to these casinos.

That's the only incentive that they can give from those players from restricted area, if they have an option to allow them.

True, they are running a long term based kind of business which they wouldnt really be doing bullshit things for the benefit of that possible revenue which they could eventually earn along the way if they wanted to.
Casinos now are mostly been regulated which it would be always normal to think or assume that they do really abide on laws and regulations that had been set out.It would really be followed if they wont or dont really
like on having those potential headaches and issues might be raised if certain informations would be leaked out just in case.If they are aware about those restricted countries or those limitations
then its no brainer that they would really be implying it and would be likely on running the business for long term.

We didn't know that yet OP but what we only know is that once a slot game is provably fair, the casino doesn't have a control about the results and we can always verify each of the results that we get to see if it's manipulated or not. It was only our luck are the ones that limits us if how low or high we can win every time we step on the gambling arena.

Why you suddenly think of this anyway? Are you wondering that some gamblers on other countries can be able to win big but you can not? Casinos themselves can always restrict the players' country right at the start, if they think they will be in trouble once that player win huge but there is also KYC which can allow the player to bypass this restrictions.

Casinos do not have the right to refuse gamblers who want to withdraw their winnings but we know that casinos have their own rules. And if they think a gambler is violating rules, they can not allow the gambler to withdraw his winnings. And we have also seen how this happens to many gamblers who complain to this forum.

Casino scammers can withhold winning money easily and won't allow them to take it out of their casino. And I think that instead of having problems in the future, we should not have to look for casino sites from other places because, in this forum, there are so many casinos that can be recommendations for us to choose a good casino. This will help us to stay away from those fraudulent casinos.

Well there are definitely some online gambling casinos which tend to act on bad faith and follow some rather shady/bad business practices. That much is true. Although the better known casinos do not do this.

But when it comes to those smaller, less known casinos who don't know how to run a good business, they will usually find any reason they can to stall or avoid paying their players for whatever reason they can find. Although as far as locations go, you could just use a VPN to hide your location. So I am not sure how reliable the data is on that. I do not doubt that they find devious ways to swindle players out of money.

But again, this goes for the bad casinos. The bigger, well known ones do not do this.

This is manipulation and unfair if someone will come out and tell us that some casinos are doing it, and he has proof we will all be shaken, but I have not seen any accusation yet, its still not in existence we all know that some casinos are delaying payment or have bad supports or not paying their winners and giving false accusations but manipulating certain people from their location not to win big has to be proven first, but so far every bet can be verified so no chance for this kind of manipulation.

I don't think they will do that, you can verify every bet, and the casino has no access to that its the game provider and if the game is in house there is a seed that you can verify that, and no one complaints here that he cannot win because he comes from this country, it hard to prove that, we don't like manipulation, someone should come out with a proof that some casino is doing that, we can come out a lot of conspiracy theory but without proof its a theory.

If what you said here that players can be restricted to win certain huge amount of money because of where they come from is true, I think such a casino will have to make its customers from such areas not play at all, than play and not get paid when they win. There will be severe lawsuits against the casino if that happens. But why would any casino do that, as that will discredit them even among those who get paid their winnings. I do not think there is any casino that can possibly do that.

I would love to see if you have proof about this claim.  At least this can make us point our VPN to the country that can get huge wins from slots.  I also watch streamers that claims that seeds from certain place is far better than others.  But I don't believe this kind of stuff.  Slots result is random and seeds, even thought they are different in every country,  I am sure slots provider will do their best in order to deliver fair gaming.

I don't think Casinos make a distinction when it comes to prizes in relation to locations or specific regions. They basically do not operate in countries that do not allow gambling. They mainly follow the rules and only operate where the regulation favours them. What can sometimes happen is that some casinos operate in certain countries where there is a specific regulation and users in the country can only play with users in the same country, so in those cases, they may have different winning prizes. Even so, that happens because the market is a low size one and the prizes are played out accordingly.

regular casinos could easily do this as they have a lot of amenities that could ensure that someone couldn't go out of their casino easily. Free drinks, even free hotel stays for their regulars are some of the tactics that they employ to prevent gamblers from spending their money on a more fair casino. Oftentimes they cover it up as a "benefit." The same couldn't be said for online casinos, they do not have physical benefits  that could entice people to gamble more in their site, so there's no possibility, or a very little of it that they are rigging their games based on location.

Besides we need to think what could casinos gain by doing something like this? If it could be proven that casinos were doing this kind of distinction among their players then it would not take long for the gamblers which come from the countries which receive smaller payouts to simple leave that casino behind and move to a casino which was fair to all their customers.

Taking this into consideration I do not see how a casino would do something like this since I think it is even possible it could affect its reputation in the process.

I really don't know if relatively new casinos can do something like that, but I understand that the most reliable and reputable casinos don't do it, it's like they say, they would get into serious trouble, and they don't have any logic, because the majority of casinos that have to do with crypto, payments can be made in bitcoin, and a very high amount can be sent in Bitcoin, it is something that does not make much sense, the fact of thinking that in a certain country it is they have to limit I don't think so, maybe I would believe it if it is a casino that uses fiat for its transactions, already there or I would believe it because it is much more centralized and above all controlled.

Reputable casinos will definitely not be going to do it.

That's because they want to be known as a reputable and friendly to its customers so, doing this will make their customers turned off with how they act especially if it's about withdrawals.

People are becoming aggressive and sensitive when it's about this matter, so, a casino understands this that it can push a lot of customers away if they're treating them as if they always have a new rule every time someone withdraws.

I haven't heard about any casino limiting the amount they pay to some certain regions, the only thing I know is that some casinos are not allowed to operate in some regions and if you want to access it illegally then you will have to make use of VPN.
If a player wins big and he is being paid, if the local authorities wants to know his source of income he can easily show them that he wins a bet, since the casino is allowed in the country, I don't think anything is bad in that, they will have to free the player, but if the casino is illegal in the region, then they can freeze the user's account and he will face the punishment for that.

If the main issue is about location then in the first place, why they will allow users to the said locations you are referring to if, in the end, they might face a problem or issues? I don't think that there's an algorithm where the sequence would be limiting the possible max payouts of users depending on a certain location.

Reputable game providers won't surely create an algorithm like that.

May we know what leads you to think that something like that happened?

Maybe we can give more accurate responses rather than basic responses.

If ever online casinos are doing it, I don't think they will even disclose it. I doubt reputable casinos will do such manipulation since they value their reputation with their users, they will gain nothing from it. If an online casino is operating legitimately it will avoid any possible legal conflict it can with its users. That is why they require KYC, or even locate your IP to check which country where you are playing at to be able to block games that are not allowed in your country, or if ever you can play in the casino or not.  

You are right because I know is that most casinos restrict players from some certain region because of taxes and other violations from the countries. There are some countries that do not allows gambling of any type whether online or physical. Just like some Muslim countries that abolish gambling by there citizens and gambling platforms had to restrictions to those regions from participating gamblers of any type which is normal to avoid sanctions.
The use of VPN comes in for any persons that want to bypass the restrictions to make some bettings.

Big winnings probably will be subjected for another KYC if you are a new player but if not I’m sure the site already trusted you since that is not the first time you won. Anyway, if a gambler uses a VPN and if its not allowed on that site I’m sure you will face problem to get that money and the worst is, the site will block you from playing since you are trying to avoid their restrictions. Big winnings will always be subject for investigation, so make sure to follow every rules to avoid any problem.

This kind of belief certainly exists among slot gamblers, but it may not prove true if you actually play at a reputable casino with a good provider too. I don't fully believe it, but indeed things like this have become a myth in slot games.

Have you ever been cheated by slots when you literally couldn't win anything in 100 auto spins?
I think you might be wondering why this is, but I don't know if a provider can be proven to be cheating its players in a single session.

I see no reason a casino should be acting so suspicious because I see no reason why a casino will limit first the amount to be played by some players from a certain location and still limit that winning potentials and odds fir the reason that they don't want suspicion which already a very suspicious act.
Before a casino especially an online casinos begins operation in a particular country, they have to first seek a certificate of operation which in details tells the casinos it's terem and the both parties comes to mutual agreement and a deal of operation is sealed.
What you said is mostly common with illegal casinos and a player like me wouldn't want to risk my money in such casinos.

I think this is very unlikely to happen.
And if there is any law that limits winnings, the casino needs to make players well informed about this and also limit the bets before this happens.
Limiting the bet is something very simple to do, because always before the bet, the system knows how much you are betting and what the multiplier is, so they know how much you can win if you hit. It would then suffice to limit the multiplier factor.
Any other way of limiting without the player knowing would be viewed with a lot of scorn by the community.

Do you have any evidence that backs up this claim? Many online Casinos especially the live Casinos work under the provably fair policy and such things aren't expected to happen under this policy. Unless the Casino in question don't have provably fair policy then it's said to be possible. If you are having any doubt about the Casino you are using then go for another online casino and stake bets. But, generalizing on all online Casinos to be a part of this action, I don't believe your instincts are correct. Like every other persons, Casinos only restrict some regions from playing not from winning.

Since they are casino owners, they can change the code anytime, but this step is unfair to players. Though they can put up a disclaimer to gamblers in a specific country saying that they are limiting the rewards for the gambler's safety and that they will have no trouble withdrawing big money that they won, I am sure the gambler does not want this. I recommend to casino owners that they do not limit it because it is the gambler's responsibility how to receive that money, and you may lose customers if you do so because it is not fair to all.

There are policies every casino is expected to follow and online casinos are expected to follow the provably fair policy according to@ Accardo and I'm sure following a policy means they're also been watched.
As long as a casino is duly and fully register, then I see no reason being scared of legal over a winning of a customer because the government is supposed to be happy because of the tax that will be pushed to them.
All you've mentioned so far is very common with illegal casinos who try everything possible to stay hided but at the long run  still gets caught up with the law and also keep taking your money and when there is a big win they just vanish and give silly excuses.

If you mean the casinos are rigging the slots so player can't "win" more than certain amount  (after which they will start losing), then yes, that would be illegal and would be considered as scamming. If you are talking about the RTP, then it is same for everyone and the casino can set the RTP. But I doubt any slots would "restrict" or not let users from certain country win. Too much work and not worth the risk. Why would a casino destroy their reputation if they are the one that always win in the long run?

Some casino will find the person involved in the VPN scam, because few people doing that VPN scam to make big win from the casino. Sometimes some huge bucks winner will be found on such scam activities. Some people also involved in wring algorithms to crack the casino using the programs. But only few gamblers had a good program skills to win the match. Most of the people will get captured at their first game, then they will be permanently ban from the websites. Even they had 1 Bitcoin in their wallet, as per agreement everything get into company wallet. It doesn’t mean the company had scammed the person involved in the hacking. This should be essential one for now.

Casinos do not do it based on location yet some providers like Play n Go gives them the option to have changeable RTP thus making this provider give you some really really bad experiences that you can have that feeling that a certain casino is not giving you an advantage because of the location where you are.

This is absolutely not the case as the casinos just implement their house edge which is guaranteed to give them the win over the long run and they don't really care where you are from.In order to not get that feeling,play other providers like Pragmatic Play which does not offer changeable RTP so you know that you only had bad luck when losing and nothing else.

That's probably just a thought and we'll never know unless someone who works for a casino tells that they're doing it but for now, I think that they're not doing it.
But there's a sort of idea that whenever someone has been winning a lot, regardless of his location, there goes the algo that they might have detected it and they start to lessen the chance of winning. At least this is only for luck-based games and we all knew that it's not going to be a lucky day forever.

Well, I think you found out what it was about, I also think the same, I think that one of the things that sometimes leads people to pernsara is because they are from third world countries, because generally they always have some kind of prohibition or always because some business can be blocked a bit for being from that type of country, however I think that is something that has no place here in casinos, I think that every casino should be as transparent as possible for everything, and more so in slots , because I think it's one of the highest incomes they have in a casino, well the other games too, but slots are the main thing I think and I don't think they have a bad reputation for restricting earnings to people from certain countries.

I don't think that casino was using algo to limit how much it can be paid out for certain location. The casino was also tracking your IP. How much they can pay to the winner totally depends on the how much liquidity that owned by the casino. The casino will be trying to pay based on what they can afford if you got maximum jackpot. The casino was always using geolocation that determined by IP. Im sure that casino has been thinking about that.

That's why some countries getting prohibited while there are countries being allowed by the casinos. that's why KYC verification will play a lot in this case.

days ago I saw someone commenting on this and I even thought: "if a casino were limiting the amount that the customer can be paid in a game, wouldn't that be something illegal or manipulation?" in my opinion I don't see why a casino would do that, considering that the casino can put in its TOS that each customer can make a bet of X amount at most or it can also put in its TOS that at a maximum withdrawal each person can withdraw Z amount. so the casino doesn't need to be manipulating the games, they have ways that are ethical and legal that they can follow if they know they don't have a big bankroll to pay when some whale wants to make a big bet

The slot games don’t have any algorithms is my opinion it may vary to your opinion. But not our all opinion will be the same. So we no need to worry on this. Some guess on this like their will be some hidden algorithms for the gambling. Many people use the same IP and get captured by the casino companies. Then their will be loss of funds from them. Because the site will ban the accounts of multiple ip with multiple accounts. So it’s better to avoid using of multiple accounts for the gambling sites. Why should we loss the funds we had won by the hard work to the game in the league.

What I know is that some casinos restrict certain regions, but for the issue of limiting how much a user from a particular region can win is what I have never heard of before, and I don't think any reputable ought to do such an act, because if a user is allowed to deposit any amount of money then why should such user be restricted from how much he/she can play or win? It will be literally unfair doing so. Moreover, we have VPN that changes a users location, or will they still be able to identify even with the use of VPN?

If we'll try to cover up our locations by using VPNs or creating multiple accounts, we are already breaking the casino's TOS and it will affect our gambling journey in the future. It's something that we should be mindful of. If we are using a reputable casino, there's an assurance that they aren't using any algorithm just to limit the number of players in a single location. I have never encountered a casino like that. They can track your location but will never ban you for no reason

Uhhmmmm yeahh, ofcourse every casino has a different interface and ways of operation.... They also have their principles of management, and that their T/C's...
Most of them aren't registered and licensed; they' just built a site and began a business deal and could decide to offer way more odds than the normalized ones; might be because they ain't spending much on maintainance but I'm not sure that their operations are being monitored.
So when it happens like this, they'll limit the preference of wagering much lest it'll just exceed their paying limits..

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Every country have a gambling regulatory institution manned with the responsibility of  regulating the activities of all gambling companies that operates within the country. And am sure each country has different amount of maximum payouts stipulated to gambling site and depending on the country the player is playing from the maximum in Mr "A" location might look like a limit from Mr "B" location based on currency value differentiation.
For I haven't come across anything such thing as illigal dispute due to an amount  money paid to a winner from a gambling company. All you will need to do is to show the local authorities your winning coupon code from the company site you won the money from showing that the said amount paid into your account was from illigal deal but a win from gambling site, and case closed.

What I know right now is maybe only about regional restrictions and indeed that has been felt because for my area there are several sites that are indeed inaccessible and I feel that way. but i just heard about restrictions regarding players winning in one of the regions. But the possibility is small, even if this is true, of course this will not be published, even though I am not too sure about that. Because if it's like that, of course there has to be a clear reason and this is gambling. I think this only depends on luck, not a matter of restrictions on whether you win or not.

i haven't read something like this also. rtp varies from location to location. well, we don't know the ultimate truth behind gambling business. but i am more on the site that it is not like this. practice like this will come to light if this is really happening. but so far, it maybe just a speculation of some players. but no basis at all.

Casino never set win bet limits and limits for withdrawals in TOS, but if high withdrawals of winnings are not paid or postponed then surely they do not approve those withdrawals or divide the withdrawal into several stages to determine minimum withdrawal limits, in case of high withdrawals from large bets it has happened to a low reputation casino site until finally they don't pay it and the reputation of the casino is assigned a scam status.

I believe that it couldnt really be happening nor a possible thing for those slot providers on having that kind of alteration of codes or changing up just because they are trying out to avoid such legal issues later on?

No, they wont really be risking out their reputation for that because if we do speak about legal issues then the certain user would be the ones who would really be filed upon with those things and not to be focused

on the provider.If a certain player hits big and win bigtime then they are really that obliged to pay up the winnings, and the rest would really be entirely be depending
on how that someone be able to play if there are some restrictions.

I haven't heard anything like this where a casino will based their RTP from its user's location. As far as I know, online gambling platform only care if their gamblers are from a restricted country which is why they implement strict rules for VPN and KYC to avoid restricted countries from gambling on their site. Also, they aren't that afraid on local authorities as especially if they are a legitimate platform as they can show proof such as those KYC documents they request most users that has huge withdrawals.

I'm not sure of such issue happening with the gambling platforms. But, similar things of rigging could happen with platforms that focus on scamming the users. I've seen people making comparison between different times zone having difference in the win probability. I'm not sure, this is just a coincidence or something that is happening out of the algorithm based on which the games were developed.

Rigging? possible as we have seen accusations about it in the past, if I remember it correctly, colluding in poker game is one. But not sure how it will it affect the location of the gamblers though. I mean even land base casinos are open 24x7, so doesn't matter what time zones are you playing, because online casinos as well will be open.

The only to be at a disadvantage is that if casinos are not provably fair with their players. But our location has nothing to do with it.

I guess what OP is trying to say is that there might be some localities that are very strict when it comes to winnings of people, and it might cause an alarm to them as it may be a possible case of money laundering or whatever. I haven't heard of such thing happening honestly, and to tell you the truth the largest winning that I saw a person bag out of the establishment is way upwards of $100,000 in cold, hard cash. No alarms whatsoever, but it was made obvious by the fact that the casino manager himself escorted the winner outside the building holding two bags of money, together with the casino security up to the parking lot. They never do that even to VIPs, just to people who won big at their platform hoping that the hospitality will make them come back and lose that money to the casino again.

We will never know what the casinos do with their algorithms, but it could happen considering we play where they are the owners, so they can prevent someone from winning a lot of money. But if the public finds this out, the casino will not be able to avoid it and must accept the sanctions because the casino has committed abuse in its own place. I don't understand why casinos have to do something like that, but maybe it's a way to prevent casinos from losing a lot of money to some experienced gamblers playing at their establishments. But the location will have no effect because casino games cannot be played by people from countries that the casino has banned. Just my 2 cents.

I don't know of any algorithm using to limit payouts for players and I don't think any casino will limit tye payout for players and that was KYC was introduced.
I'm sure that before a casino operates in a particular environment or country, they must acquire some certification and proper licensing to back them up must be gotten, this will help to regulate the activities of the casino and if a player wins big on a game provided there was irregularities and the prove of income verification was done successfully ten I see no reason why the government and it's agency would want to bother the casino after acquiring the necessary license.

Casino license nowadays doesn’t do thorough inspection especially on online casino. They can give a different source code to the auditors that passed there requirements and install different one on actual game since license company doesn’t do a regular audit. There’s a lot of scam casino out there with license yet they still can operate since license provider don’t do thorough inspection one by one.

But the scenario given by OP that limit the payout of user base on the country has no basis and useless like what you explained already that government doesn’t care about the casino once it has license to operate.

I don't think that's possible and won't be done. What can happen is that they will cut the general terms and conditions. And if they do, they could start putting things in it that it's not allowed to win more than $25,000 a week in a casino or sports betting site. Then when you get over it, you will see them take your winnings away from you. But meanwhile they just let you gamble without any problems. There are several scam sites of this kind, most of which are licensed by the MGA. Which is also a wash nose nowadays.

Out of curiosity, what licensed casinos are you referring to that can still operate freely but are now tagged or considered scams?

Who provides these casinos with their respective licenses?

If that's the case, that's alarming and the community should be aware of these casinos.


I thought of that too. I never even heard of an incident where online casinos put a limit or a sort of winning restriction based on the country or region.

Can't think of a reason why should they do that since in the first place, why should they do it, and no significance in doing it.

In this case, certain casinos usually have their own Terms and Conditions or regulations regarding certain countries that are permitted or restricted. However, because of the large number of online casinos nowadays, there are also many online casinos that do not have restrictions on a country. The mechanism for receiving prizes at the moment at online casinos may not be too strict, regardless of which country is eligible or who comes there. Most of them probably only focus on the number of users and also the income at the casino, the profit they get is enough for all of that.

Indeed, some online casinos may only use certain licenses of gambling platforms that are no related to some rules and regulations. And moreover, not all licensed casino is legit so this may not really give certain impacts. Moreover, since the pandemic, there are huge online casinos that are emerging until now and many of them may be illegal or not based on license. But, many gamblers also use them because of the promotions and advertsiment, inclduing they only focus on what thye can do and they can earn until withdrawing money to their bank account. This may be quite risky, but this also often ahppens.

It is unlike casinos will do something like changing the payout rates of their slots depending on where you are located, now this may seem impossible to demonstrate if they did so but in fact it is very easy, as long as got a large enough sample of the results players got and they were sorted depending on your location you could make a statistical analysis about the rate at which they win and the prize money they get, and if there are significant differences between the amount of money won by the players of one country compared to another one then you will know they are indeed engaging in this kind of behavior.

It may look easy, but I'm not sure a casino will do it, especially if it's a trusted casino that has been operating for years. They will not cheat their players to get bigger profits because it will be related to the reputation they have built before. But as I said before, we don't know, and if we have a feeling like that, we can move on to another casino that won't do what we think it will. We are lucky to have a lot of trusted casinos, so we can easily move to another casino if there is something we don't want.

Is it a guess or you have a valid source to get this information?
Never heard about such policy in online casinos before and I also never heard there is a complain from players that they get less winning limit that other players because of location difference.
If you have no valid source about this thing, most people will say that you are spreading a hoax.
So kindly post a link if you read about this information somewhere out there, and we all can read it to know what is the exact information in case you missed something in the source.

   -  I think it is irrelevant and the connection is very distant if a gambler is in a remote place because he is playing in an online casino. Then it seems that the casino implementing this policy is also very unfair.

At the very beginning of their sign-up, they should tell them which country is restricted to them so that those who try to create an account on their platform will not waste or even try, not when they have won a large amount of money then they will say that the country he is in is restricted, so that they appear like a gambler.

Monitoring a particular account statement is part of keeping the country or a particular locality safe, due to the alarming news of online crises everywhere. I don't think this should call for the restriction of individuals from such a locality. When a locality performs KYC verification on its citizen, I believe every information needed about a particular transaction is gotten; as such, the citizen has no problem and this has nothing to do with the Casino. It is apparently inappropriate for a Casino to restrict its customer due to community terms.

I haven’t heard of something like this, a casino limiting the winnings of players based on their place of origin. But more of, casino limiting players of certain countries in accessing and playing to their website. Wouldn’t that be consider as rigid if the system if programmed to kind of distribute different rewards based on location? Anyway, if the concern of limiting payout due to government issues in the source on incoming funds of a player, it should be already covered especially if the casino has license, right?

You got a point, maybe the only thing that I know that can be possible is that they will limit those people who will win in a certain country? maybe that could be possible but it is unfair again, but they can do this for the sake of their business as well, if many people will win in that casino and knowing other countries still don't legalize crypto and get this news their casino website might be block and those people will be punish as well.

I think some online casinos are designed an house edge in order to maintain their profits to their side. Maybe it is not in the form of algorithms but tit definitely has the device of having the edge on their side. Though this is the first time that I have heard about restricting their locations via changing their percentages of winning to their advantage in the event that the player is registered in a country that prohibits gambling.

Though this may be the case, I doubt that online gambling companies have such system stored and implemented. At the end of the day, if the person who gambles won but it was subsequently discovered that his act of gambling is prohibited, then the law enforcements of his/her country would do the rest of the arrests.

All we have is just speculation and has no proven facts that casinos are cheating their players by limiting wins in certain regions.  I don't know why the casino will be selective in this process when they can just put winning limits to all regions but of course reputable casino don't do that else they might be found out if a surprise audit is done to their system.

As far as I know, every region has seeds, and in every session, these seeds change. It is possible that a person can get a good seed regardless of his location.  So a player in x location can win huge amount of money while a player on y location will not.  Then the situation may interchange because of the randomness of seed that is triggered every time each player starts their gambling session.

the answer is clear , WHo really knows ? technology inside casino games are hard to understand as the experts behind those games are the reason why casino owners continues to become richer while players loses .
and also even Physical casinos have their ways in beating gamblers so the real thing? the games are designed for them to take our money and that is the truth .

While other experts who want to unravel such things will also not be easy to find because it means those experts have to go inside the casino and examine the algorithms more deeply. Meanwhile, casinos will always check for security holes in their sites so that no one can penetrate them. It's better that we don't have to think about whether something like that exists in some casinos or applies to all because it won't be easy to find out and find it. We must know that a casino is a place of business that wants to benefit from losing gamblers.

No, I'll explain why it's impossible.

If the game is provably fair like Dice, etc then you can simply verify your bets and hence it's impossible to offer extra to a particular region. If the game is not provably fair it's most likely a third party slot provider like Nolimit City, Hacksaw, etc who have a set RTP for each of their games and they provide gaming service to casinos and can't what player from which location accessed and played their games.

Yeah it may be entirely possible and ethical to offer extra bonuses & generous welcome offers to players from a particular region and that I believe is fine because bonuses are something at the discretion of the casino.

If I also think the same as you, in fact many years ago I always went with a friend to a casino that we had near the University, at that time we had not been going for more than 2 months, but each one of us knew how to divide in order to win, sometimes we learned patterns and looked for roulette when there were many people, when there were many at roulette it was more likely for us to win, and we did that, so every time we went we had a very good streak, so that was something we already did We looked like an ATM, that allowed us to see our behavior perhaps on cameras, then some time after finishing some midterm exams we came back and they didn't let us in.

You can find it yourself on the terms of service on each casino, they usually have different tiers of limitation. Like the absolute restriction where people who came from this country aren't allowed to gamble at all, less restriction where people who came from this country need to submit KYC since this regions has high criminal and money laundering case, and then restrictions about some games for specific regions since gambling providers has their own rules too.

Each casino has its own rules that will not be the same and it is also possible that the casino will limit the amount of winnings each player from a different country can obtain. We also won't know if the casino does something like that and we can only speculate without knowing the truth. But instead of considering those restrictions, we need to play and enjoy our time. When it's time to win, we will win and vice versa.

Gamblers should stop and avoid looking for excuses to the failures for their winnings, there are no barriers be it small or big that can hinders a gambler from winning an online game henplayed, the ideology is simple, if you're good at doing it (gambling) there's high probabilities for you to win and if you jad problems with compliance to understand the ways it's been played, you may less have opportunities to win, location barrier should be in favour of those that are into offline gambling or casino house gamblings and not the online one.

I agree with this. I think locations do not matter on the winning amount the players can win because the casinos are to decide on it overall speaking. If there's one thing that would vary is that the games that can be played and the operation of the casino in different countries.

This is because in some countries, they allow gambling but only to a certain extent and only to specif kinds of games. And there are also countries that do not really permit the operations of casinos. In this case, you'll see that it is stated in their TOS that they do not operate in countries because of banning issue and the likes.

I wnst you to know that not all KYC verification i a given platform is accurate, because, i believe that KYC verification of a platform can be man over by using another fake documentation, yes it's true that when done KYC verification with a platform it will likely show that information processed through upload of your details will indicates or identify the nation you came from,  why some people do use another nation information to verify their account without facial contact verification.

Exactly. This is just it, no way around why people would think it's the house messing up with them and coveting their "well-deserved" wins from them. They make excuses for themselves and puts the blame on other people instead of taking accountability and owning up to their losses. Rookie mistake. Rule of thumb, if you gamble, don't gamble to win unless you're scarface or something. Gamble to have fun. Because gambling for profits will just disappoint you ten times over and may leave you addicted to getting that "one last clincher bet that will breakeven my losses"

Its one of the bypass of these verification if ever they would be asking out, but we arent that dumb on not to know about its con's considering that on the time you would really be again verify
then this is where you do see yourself getting fucked up.Its just common sense that we dont really like for our identity on getting exposed on which it is really that understandable
that other people would really be using up others identity just to bypass into something and its impossible that they wouldnt really be able to know the possible risk
or problem that lies ahead.

Yes, you can bypass the KYC verification but that is very risky when you get caught because there are too many factors that you get caught.
We know that the casino will ask to enhance verification when you will win big, if that is so, how you will continue to provide data knowing that you only bypass the verification, it sounds risky but you should know this from the start. The casino is designed to gain profit but not the gambler, the gambler's purpose is to have entertainment and that is the fact. So the location does not matter to me if you will win or not, it is expecting that the chances of winning is very small in gambling because gambling are here to make profit on us.

Again, That's the same reason why every casino should get registered and licensed by the designated commissions in charge of that in their country. No one would drag anyone in a bid of creating an escalation to whether or not a casino paid them too much funds from their winnings; it's the casino that sets a barrier on that to avoid some certain abuse or a user going as much as wagering some hundreds and thousands on a single, sure odd -- hoping to get 'em tripled when it cuts -- yeah, most times it does so the casino would simply run bankrupt.... That's exactly the bone of contention here. The same reason why every casino don't let loose their options; I still remember when I worked as a cashier -- I realized that alot of options are opted out, that's actually in a bid to STOP LOSS.
They've also got T/C's right?? That's it.

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I am sure that the casino will not be reluctant to block a large amount of money if the user has any pending KYC.
Properly regulated casinos are, in most countries, under a lot of pressure from governments and regulatory bodies, so KYC is a legal way for them to try to protect themselves from any criminal prosecution in this regard.

Everyone who enters a centralized and properly regulated casino knows that they are subject to KYC realization sooner or later, and should be sure that this is inevitable if they need to withdraw a large amount of money.

Just a piece of advice: Never use false data, because if this is discovered it is highly likely that you will never be able to recover the money that is blocked.

Gambling for fun will give us a pleasant feeling that doesn't think about how we can win from that gambling game.
We have to realize that when we lose, it's because we're unlucky and not because the casino is preventing us from winning, let alone changing its algorithm to prevent players from getting big wins.
And if we don't want to get disappointed from losing gambling, we should gamble with the money we can afford so that if we lose, we will accept the defeat and can leave the casino without feeling disappointed.
And don't say one last bet by placing an all-in bet because that won't give you good results either.

I think something like this isn't impossible in informatics. If the programmer wants to add this rule to the code, he can. However, I think it's not interesting for the casino to do this. It doesn't make much sense to say the truth. If someone is going to have issues with authorities it's going to be the gambler, not the casino, because it's the gambler who has obligations with the local regulators when declaring how much money he is making in a yearly basis. Moreover, most slots games are provided by third party services to casinos' platforms, so casinos would need a partnership why such services in order to boycott players from determined countries, what is really unlikely and compromising for the services providers' reputation on the industry as a whole.

Many casinos have already restricted players from specific countries. So whenever you visit a gambling site or casino and if by chance they have blocked your country, then you won’t be able to visit the site only at first place. Moreover if anyhow you bypass it using VPN, then they gonna ask you for KYC and hence block your funds if you have violated their terms of conduct and services. This is what I know from my knowledge. I don’t know if they have country limit for specific users. Yes they have bet limits on new accounts, as to prevent cheating and fixbets scenes.

There are some things here that don't make sense to me, why do they have to restrict people from certain countries from winning slots? or even in any game? I know from my own experience that people who are from the USA and Europe that the best business models are for them, all the facilities are for them, on the other hand, for a South American to have a business similar to the one they are looking for, it is very difficult, the amount of paperwork, the number of "buts" that are put, these things are not pleasant at all, and it is sad that every time you try to do something, certain countries find everything difficult, so in casinos that do something like that, at I would not recommend it at least to me, I have not come across casinos like this, but if I do, I would not hesitate to report it, it does not make sense that in casinos and issues that have to do with crypto they also have those things that do not make any sense.

I don't really think a casino will limit a particular location because of any law and remember that every country that accept gambling already have a regulatory body that is responsible to enforcing fairness and transparency between the casino and it's users.
Before signing a license and accepting to abide by it, it simply means that the casino has to do that consciously which implies that they already have a representative and a legal team who must have reviewed all if those agreements and I'm sure that they have a maximum pay out stated and as long as winnings above the agreed amount if there is any isn't triggered, there wouldn't be any call for alarm

Casinos won't cap your winnings -- they'll just ban you from playing if you're located in a jurisdiction that's prohibited from playing. If you circumvent this, they'll just KYC you if you try to withdraw a large amount of funds. That's generally how most of these casinos operate, but instead of legal ramifications, they just want to KYC so they can have an excuse not to pay out a large winning.

Not all casinos are like this, but they've been doing it for years so I consider it fair game at this point. I don't deposit at KYC casinos.

I do not know if casino do this but if they do it, it is wrong practice.

There is one condition that if a casinos want to limit certain locations from winning big amount, they should announce it publicly. If they apply any algorithm hiddenly, it will come under scam and people will take legal action against such casino who do not disclose such information before.

We can still believe that we are losing because of the algorithm, but this is only applicable to those online casinos that are not fair and can be easily predicted, but for the current status of the casino, they are not doing it, and I haven't read any information about it, so we simply lose because we are unlucky. That is why we don't always blame casinos for our losses; we just play to be entertained as loses are really part if we gamble

No casino ever behaves in a private manner. It remains the same for everyone. There are some casinos that don't do anything illegal. As many casino sites have KYC mandatory so that the casino has a better idea about its clients. If those clients are in a restricted area, they will never be verified. In that case, location is important.

In another view there are also many casinos that only officially value KYC, but in reality it shows a different picture. They can manage the gambling beautifully from any location. It basically depends on the type or site of gambling you are doing. It is very important to wear their TOS thoroughly especially before the start of gambling.
”Online casinos make some locations suffer from big wins” in my perspective it is pointless to think something like that. Gambling companies will never do this kind of behavior.

What actually happened was that some casinos banned their sites from being accessed by citizens of certain countries. Maybe it's because that country has laws prohibiting gambling activities or there are other things I don't know.
There are several countries whose governments strictly prohibit gambling activities in any form. However, citizens still do this by using a VPN or changing the browser's DNS so that they are not detected when entering gambling sites.
Even though there are already many sites that do not allow customers to access using a VPN, I think a gambler will ignore this prohibition so they can still play or bet on gambling sites.

You would really be having some question on your mind that after all of the gambling sites available online on where you could choose from, then why there a re people who are really that eager on accessing sites which
they are strictly prohibited due to some law or something like that.Is this pertaining on the games offered? or simply they are really just that stubborn on where they do just like to deal up with things on what
interest them.This is why people do love on accessing out sites via VPN even if they do know that they are really that been blocked but still still trying out to access.
On the time that they've been caught then they do usually whine the most and telling that they havent done something wrong. LOOOOOL.

They forcefully access it because these people are heavily addicted to gambling already and I think they already know what will be the consequences about it once they get caught out. It's either their winnings will get forfeited or worse they will be arrested because there are also gambling sites who ask for our KYC. They are lucky if they will still get paid but I think the condition is that the winnings are only be reduced.

I don't know if there are people who are sincere that they don't about the restriction and they can be those people who whine up. This is why it's important to be always up to date on the news whether it is local or international.

I am sure that what you are describing is not only frowned upon by the authorities and casino regulators, but it is also quite illegal for casinos to do. I doubt any legitimate casino would try to risk their entire business over some extra profit. Especially when they are being controlled and hounded by people whos sole job it is to weed out bad actors in that particular business.

Don't get me wrong, I think casinos will try to do the sneakiest, dirtiest things to gain more profit but only when they are moving in a legal area. Rigging the games in such a way is undoubtedly not legal though. :o

Another scenario that comes to mind about why people choose to play at casinos in which they have been forbidden to do so for some reason or another is that they have gambled at that casino before and lost, and now they want to recover that money as it has become a personal problem between them and the casino, and while it is understandable to get a little bit mad when you lose money it is incorrect to make this personal as the only one that will end up losing in such a quest for revenge is the gambler.

Most times, that is not the case. It is not because people are addicted to gambling is the reason why they choose to use a casino despite banning some countries, the thing is that some casinos and bookies have more lower lines than others ones, and the lower the lines, the easier are they for your predictions to come out to be true especially the sportsbook and also some casino has some feature that others don't have especially some other versatile option you may choose to bet or flex your bets.
For example, today alone, I have gambled in 3 betting platforms, not because I can't do it all in one place but there lower lines vary and I like to explore some other options in some sportsbooks that others do not have, after all, gambling is all about the fun and entertainments.

This is not going to be a factor in any normal casino operation. In that scenario the entire blame and required explanation would rest on the shoulders of the player, the casino would not have liability in that scenario. Casinos often ban entire countries if the rules of the country stipulate that gambling is illegal and KYC sort of verification enforces it to indirectly protect the players. I don't know of any countries that have a threshold that says, if you win over this monetary amount we will take certain legal actions against you - they're either all against gambling or not. A person breaking the law and evading registration restrictions would be the only person to blame in this scenario. You also slightly misrepresent the power that prosecutors have because that sort of overreach and dictating what companies do elsewhere is not the norm.

Indeed. Legal casinos seem never to restrict any gambler from winning big, it is an unfair way. They only limit the gamblers from a few countries because of certain reasons and limit the age of the gamblers to avoid negative impacts on the young generation. These are common limitations/restrictions, it is the right way to make gamblers play properly. I think everyone accepts these, it is already notified even before the gamblers register on the online casinos.

Anyway, I never heard any casino preventing gamblers from certain countries to win big prizes. I think it is just OP assumption, he doesn't really understand the restriction/limitation on online casinos.

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It is indeed an unfair way and we dont know if there are really that casinos who do have this kind of set up on treating up other countries or players who do reside into those places which does have stricter laws

and regulations in towards gambling casinos but if we do really see up on how things to be done then it is really that somewhat complicated on making some exemptions or trying out to alter
considering on how many users would be going in and out on a certain platform.

Its unlikely to have this kind of method or treatment in towards players who do play into those vicinities.

Quite right. It is very strange to me that in general one would somehow think that some casino would do this and risk its reputation (on which the whole business is built). If the casino has difficult problems with the authorities of some countries, then it is more profitable for them to simply block access to users from these countries and do business where there are no problems. Coming up with criminal schemes to "solve" problems in troubled jurisdictions is an extremely ridiculous decision.

I am still thinking why a company would want to limit the number of possible winners from a particular region because this look very irrational to me why without a good claim or fact.
 Although this is just like an opinion which I have not seen any atom of possibility in it. If a company decided to limit the amount a gambler could win from a particular region thwn that means there is something wrong somewhere. That would never be accepted and I would see that as an act of racism which is a big offense on the international law.
This a lone cam attract a big sanctions if discovered. It would be an act against humanity and the reason would never be condoled.

I follow that point, why risking your reputation by controlling something like thi and not just to completely block the access and not to allow people from jurisdicted area not to play. It's more logical to do business and established your reputation without any kind of risk like this, not sure though if the sites have that kind of issue.

But from a general point of view, if you want to established good business better to work without any issue with whatever that may rise along the way while managing your business.

I really don't agree or think that geographical location is a problem when it comes to gambling provided the casino has the required license.
I had to have a rethink in this issue and I really don't agree with the fact that casinos use any form of algorithm to limit payouts to certain location except is a non license casino and you shouldn't trust any casino without a license because it's operating illegally and the worst can happen at anytime.
Firstly for a casino to operate in a certain place, there are certification and license they're required to have and at such there are jurisdictions they're also expected to abide by and I'm sure with those licenses they wouldn't have to fear any implications for any amount won as long as they can make the payment to the winner.

Issues will always be there and it's hard to avoid.

But when a casino got some issues from their customers, it is a way to become better and to make them offer a better service on which they fell short or lack of based from the issue that has been brought to them.

Issues are there for the business to thrive better. And those disadvantages that has been brought up should be resolved but then, these winnings are not based from our locations.

Then you have never really sifted through the pages of this forum to see that even huge casinos are trying to make the winners feel like shit in order for the winners to not claim their winnings. Even legitimate, land-based casinos are trying to prevent big wins from happening, just like this one (https://money.cnn.com/2017/06/15/news/jackpot-steak-dinner-katrina-bookman-lawsuit/index.html) wherein the casino tried to offer a steak dinner to a woman that 'won' $43 million jackpot on a slot machine. The casino and even the New York Gambling Board mentioned that the machine malfunctioned, but it's kind of a joke seeing that the machine only becomes broken when big wins happen.

Casinos will try their best to not give out big wins, and if you have never seen or heard of one, then you must not be involved that much in gambling for you to not know this.

I guess what you are trying to explain here above is quite different from what "O.P" meant as stated in the thread, because those are two different concept altogether. The woman who won this $43million took place on a land base casino 4yrs ago, of which the casino claimed that the slot machine had a malfunction, and for that, the winning won't be paid.
While, O.P is asking, Do online casinos disadvantage some locations from winning big? Which the answer is "NO" because no legally registered online casino will disadvantage any region from winning big, but can only restrict certain regions base on reasons best known for them.

Agreed. But I was made aware of the fact that casinos are mostly set up on places where people are likely more to spend. But geographically discriminating? I don't think so. If anything, I could attribute this as a gambler pinning the blame on someone or something for losing a lot of money on a certain spot and then winning a couple on the other. It's all a bias in your brain, like thinking that you have a certain lucky number. One must be responsible enough to reconsider his/her actions and what led them to that moment, and not blame anything but yourself. After all, you should've gambled knowing all too well that you most likely wouldn't keep all your money in one piece, otherwise why would you gamble in the first place, for profit?

The winnings maybe based on the location,I can say this because in the country I live in now I could access a casino I used to play before online up to 2020 or something like that and from that it went on blocked from all the ISP providers of this country so I was forced to use a VPN and used a better country when connecting like UK,France or Germany.The fun fact is that I got x3000 multiplier when I was playing at that casino when I was accessing it from the country I live in and when using the VPN-s with the mentioned countries I never saw the x3000 wins anymore,maybe a coincidence but who knows.

Do you understand that some jurisdictions are under sanctions? If a casino (most of whose business is under US jurisdiction) even obtains a license in a sanctioned country and starts operating there, then it will automatically lose all of its business, since violation of sanctions is severely punished. Even the creation of front legal entities and gasket companies is not an option in such situations, since the risk is not worth the profit.

The case you stated above seems not an online casino, it is an offline casino. And the case isn't the limitation of a certain country to win big price, but the casino refused to give the price to the gambler. It is not the same case (topic) that is described by the OP, it is a different case, dude. For the case you stated above, surely I already heard the same cases many times. ::)

By the way, if there are online casinos that always try to not give the price to the gambler, I believe all gamblers will leave the casinos and will judge "scam" for the casino. The casinos won't survive a long time, a bad reputation will make the casinos to have no users.


You are right. He misunderstood the topic.

that is no excuse for casinos to limit big winnings to one gambler. I mean if indeed a gambler wins big and usually will be asked for KYC and after that if it passes the verification, the casino will still give that win.
and regional or state governments have no right to know where the sources of these funds come from. but as a gambler who wins big, you should also be careful to enter into a local bank. because usually local banks have limited funds that will later be subject to state taxes.
so gamblers who can finally get big wins must be good at separating these funds at the local bank so that the state doesn't question the source of the funds.

Are you sure about that?

Can you point out some casinos who had this kind of behavior on which lessening out players chances that out of their jurisdiction to win? I dont think that this is something to be applied because
its not something an ethical thing for you to do so as a business owner.Once the public would able to know such alterations then it would really be fucked up hard with your business
which is something that we dont really want to happen.

Whenever they are really trying to get rid of users who do have some legal issues then blocking IP's would be the case but there are ones who are really that stubborn
on trying out to access despite of prohibition which it would really be just right for the platform on taking such rightful step and action.

argue defending oneself in order to win is difficult. bookies that will always win in any case. many countries are legally legal in secret from anticipation of government pollution that is not appropriate, whereas on the contrary, there are only different ways to run this gambling business in secret. Gambling taxes are definitely there for non-transparent governments

I doubt casinos take the time to lower the chances of a gambler winning based on their location, sometimes we hear about casinos restricting some users because they are professional gamblers or sometimes even bans are issued as the gamblers are trying to abuse the bonuses given by casinos, but I have never heard of a casino giving worst odds or lower payouts for the same bet based on their country of residence, and if this was ever found out to be true a backlash would ensue so I doubt it will ever happen.

I also don't believe the casino will make a difference in winning odds based on location or country, all winning odds will be the same for all gamblers regardless of location, so that statement is just a person's assumption because he often loses in gambling and not a fact of actual gambling, all platforms the casino targets more users from all countries that are not prohibited under the regulations of each country.

Myself too doesn't believe in it, but there are differences in Winning when you play on different time zones. I came across similar incident and tried to cross check and found it to be winning when we play on the Western time zone and loss when I was on the Asian time zone. This is just a coincidence, which I later understood when I took the overall profit and loss between the two time zones.

I don't think we can oversee a centralized system. That's why I always leave the door open to such a possibility. However, I find such things less likely to happen on well-known betting platforms. Maybe there are more such things on questionable platforms focused on scamming users. I actually don't know if this is something that can be checked or not. I just keep having doubts inside me all the time. Because I need to know in order to trust and I do not have qualified information on this subject.

A casino platform is usually made accessible from anywhere in the world. But some country governments do not allow access to any casino platforms due to their regulations. If a casino is available from anywhere naturally they can get all kinds of advantages. In this case I have no idea about such casinos offering different benefits for a particular region. And if this kind of restriction is given then that site would definitely be under threat which would be a big loss for them.

It is true it is impossible to supervise all casinos to the point we could answer this categorically, but when I think about it I cannot think of a single reason why a casino would like to do this, if a casino wanted to scam their customers, why limit themselves to a few countries when they could instead scam the gamblers which wager the most money regardless of the location used to access their website? This is why I do not think any casino is engaging in an activity like this one.

Really that impossible and which we do know that whatever things they do wanted to prevent out from those people to access into their site, we do know that VPN access is really that very common which its not
something that you could stop them on playing even with those restrictions.It isnt really just  that ethical on making those altering those winning percentage on specific people because its not being that fair.
Once you do get caught then your business if fucked up.Just let them play and also detecting their IP's  wont really be that simple or making out some filtering unless if you do ask for  more
verification then it might caught up some good numbers but it would be depending on how popular your site is.

Since we can not supervise most of these casinos just like you have explained then the possibility of knowing if there are some casinos that indulge in this kind of act is zero. We can only give opinion based on our experience and what we think but it is still unbelievable for me to think that casinos would want to restricts people from a certain region from making high profits in there casino.

This act might exist just like op had seen but we still need some fact and events like that to determine if this kind of injustice act still happens. If casinos decided to do this, something might be wrong somewhere that would need to be disclosed to the public.

This is not a very easy task to prove. But if the casino is in any way involved in any such activity then it should be brought under punishment. If they have restricted their site to the general public in a specific area and it is mentioned in their terms and conditions then they will not be charged. But if there is no mention of that kind of thing then it will directly be considered as hypocrisy and dishonesty.