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Title: [Boxing]: Caleb Plant vs David Benavidez
Post by: Baofeng on November 25, 2022, 09:38:12 PM
It seems that we will see this fight happening in 2023, no date yet, but according to Plant, he has signed the contract already.

https://talkimg.com/images/2023/05/19/blobe9b88cd71fac057f.png

https://twitter.com/SweetHandsPlant/status/1588279180281532417

Plant is riding on a momentum of his great knockout against Anthony Dirrell last month,

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DxF5cu7fG3U

Benavidez, on the other hand is a two-time former WBC super middleweight champion, never lost the belt to any fighter though. It was all his wrong doing, first he lost the title when he was tested positive for cocaine. And then after getting back the title, he lost it again this time to Roamer Alexis Angulo as he can't make the weight.

Benavidez wanted to go and fight Canelo Alvarez, but the camp of Canelo says no, as they want him to proved himself. So maybe if he beat Plant worst than Canelo beat him, he might gain some respect and could potentially face Alvarez in the future.

What are your thoughts on this fight?


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Caleb Plant vs David Benavidez
Post by: Hydrogen on November 25, 2022, 10:41:07 PM

Benavidez, on the other hand is a two-time former WBC super middleweight champion, never lost the belt to any fighter though. It was all his wrong doing, first he lost the title when he was tested positive for cocaine.

What are your thoughts on this fight?


Cocaine can damage the heart. Causing it to pump less blood. Resulting in reduced oxygenation. Causing athletes to fatigue faster than normal.

I think Canelo fought Caleb Plant thinking he would be an easy payday. While avoiding David Benavidez for him being too dangerous.

Benavidez should be the clear favorite to win this fight assuming that he hasn't damaged his body too much with a cocaine addiction. If Benavidez did a lot of cocaine his cardio could be bad. I think cocaine can also negatively affect an athlete's timing. As it is known to have an effect on that part of the brain. If Benavidez did a lot of coke I would bet on Caleb Plant if he was a clean athlete.

Other athletes whose cocaine addictions negatively affected their fighting careers are names like Melvin Guillard. Its much more common than people think.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Caleb Plant vs David Benavidez
Post by: harizen on November 25, 2022, 11:45:26 PM
So maybe if he beat Plant worst than Canelo beat him, he might gain some respect and could potentially face Alvarez in the future.

Benavidez is really red-hot in taking down Caleb Plant in a much worst way when the latter got beaten by Canelo.

Reading some news, Benavidez is taking that personally meaning his eagerness of him to put Plant in the worst loss possible will really be hard pushed.

Just thinking about what kind of worst beating it will be in the mind of Benavidez. Going back to when Caleb Plant faces Canelo Alvarez, he lose in an 11th Round TKO and the majority of those rounds turned Plant into a punching bag.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Caleb Plant vs David Benavidez
Post by: Yaunfitda on November 26, 2022, 03:54:54 AM
So maybe if he beat Plant worst than Canelo beat him, he might gain some respect and could potentially face Alvarez in the future.

Benavidez is really red-hot in taking down Caleb Plant in a much worst way when the latter got beaten by Canelo.

Reading some news, Benavidez is taking that personally meaning his eagerness of him to put Plant in the worst loss possible will really be hard pushed.

Just thinking about what kind of worst beating it will be in the mind of Benavidez. Going back to when Caleb Plant faces Canelo Alvarez, he lose in an 11th Round TKO and the majority of those rounds turned Plant into a punching bag.
I don't know if this guy know each other personally, but the hatred that David has against Caleb.

Probably it goes down when they are still starting and most likely has crossed path and then sooner or later this two has to fight. Although Plant has lost to Alvarez, Benavidez was being denied by Alvarez.

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On whether David Benavidez “counts” as a Mexican fighter he wouldn’t want to face

“I don’t know. Anything can happen. ... When I say I don’t want to fight Mexicans, it’s because I represent Mexico. That’s why. But I don’t care. I’ll fight anybody. All my entire life — anybody. ... I hear (Benavidez’s) dad talking a lot of shit, but what has he accomplished? Nothing. (He’s beaten) one single champion, Anthony Dirrell. Please. ... Don’t lack respect when you talk about me. I’ve faced the best out there and never ducked anyone.”

https://www.badlefthook.com/2022/9/18/23358966/canelo-discusses-win-golovkin-takes-shots-david-benavidez-boxing-news-2022

So yes, I do agree that if he put a beating on Caleb Plant, he should get the respect from Alvarez and better if they will step up for another mega fight in this division.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Caleb Plant vs David Benavidez
Post by: Jawhead999 on November 26, 2022, 05:26:39 AM
David Bernavidez seems really hungry to fight Canelo, even though he only won the WBC interim supper middleweight title, but he want to a challenge against the top boxer in this division. I think he's a threat for Canelo, that's why Canelo reject his offer to fight with him. Actually Canelo doesn't in good position, he can't fight with light heavyweight boxer to get belt and there's few boxer keep improving themselves to challenge Canelo.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Caleb Plant vs David Benavidez
Post by: Dave1 on November 26, 2022, 05:30:18 AM
David Bernavidez seems really hungry to fight Canelo, even though he only won the WBC interim supper middleweight title, but he want to a challenge against the top boxer in this division. I think he's a threat for Canelo, that's why Canelo reject his offer to fight with him. Actually Canelo doesn't in good position, he can't fight with light heavyweight boxer to get belt and there's few boxer keep improving themselves to challenge Canelo.

That is possible, although Canelo is like hiding on the "I don't want to fight another Mexican" narrative, but I do think that he doesn't want to face Benavidez who is young and hungry and has a father that is also a talker, just like Teo Sr and all other Father-son duo in boxing.

Hopefully, Canelo will have to give Benavidez some respect and fight the young lion.

As long though, Canelo will be true to his words that he is not shy to fight anyone and to proved his greatness regardless if his opponent has some Mexican blood in them.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Caleb Plant vs David Benavidez
Post by: Sanitough on November 26, 2022, 07:10:32 AM
So maybe if he beat Plant worst than Canelo beat him, he might gain some respect and could potentially face Alvarez in the future.

Benavidez is really red-hot in taking down Caleb Plant in a much worst way when the latter got beaten by Canelo.

Reading some news, Benavidez is taking that personally meaning his eagerness of him to put Plant in the worst loss possible will really be hard pushed.

Just thinking about what kind of worst beating it will be in the mind of Benavidez. Going back to when Caleb Plant faces Canelo Alvarez, he lose in an 11th Round TKO and the majority of those rounds turned Plant into a punching bag.

He needs to have a better performance than Canelo, maybe not letting this fight pass 6 rounds. Early KO would make some noise and who knows, he'll be able to fight Canelo soon, that would be fun you know but I would still back Canelo knowing he is still in his prime.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Caleb Plant vs David Benavidez
Post by: Yamifoud on November 26, 2022, 08:53:07 AM
So maybe if he beat Plant worst than Canelo beat him, he might gain some respect and could potentially face Alvarez in the future.

Benavidez is really red-hot in taking down Caleb Plant in a much worst way when the latter got beaten by Canelo.

Reading some news, Benavidez is taking that personally meaning his eagerness of him to put Plant in the worst loss possible will really be hard pushed.

Just thinking about what kind of worst beating it will be in the mind of Benavidez. Going back to when Caleb Plant faces Canelo Alvarez, he lose in an 11th Round TKO and the majority of those rounds turned Plant into a punching bag.

He needs to have a better performance than Canelo, maybe not letting this fight pass 6 rounds. Early KO would make some noise and who knows, he'll be able to fight Canelo soon, that would be fun you know but I would still back Canelo knowing he is still in his prime.

Well, that's easier said than done because Caleb Plant was also a solid fighter, he was able to last in the fight against Canelo who is a superstar.  David Benavidez maybe undefeated with 23 KOs from 26 fights but Caleb was also undefeated when he fought Canelo, I think both of these fighters are not yet on the level of Canelo.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Caleb Plant vs David Benavidez
Post by: TravelMug on November 26, 2022, 08:58:02 AM
So maybe if he beat Plant worst than Canelo beat him, he might gain some respect and could potentially face Alvarez in the future.

Benavidez is really red-hot in taking down Caleb Plant in a much worst way when the latter got beaten by Canelo.

Reading some news, Benavidez is taking that personally meaning his eagerness of him to put Plant in the worst loss possible will really be hard pushed.

Just thinking about what kind of worst beating it will be in the mind of Benavidez. Going back to when Caleb Plant faces Canelo Alvarez, he lose in an 11th Round TKO and the majority of those rounds turned Plant into a punching bag.

He needs to have a better performance than Canelo, maybe not letting this fight pass 6 rounds. Early KO would make some noise and who knows, he'll be able to fight Canelo soon, that would be fun you know but I would still back Canelo knowing he is still in his prime.

Yes, nevertheless if I were Benavidez, I will still talking about Canelo, he should get past Caleb Plant as this is not that easy. Although Benavidez has the power, Caleb looks look against Dirrell, there are times that he was hit by Anthony with 5 or 6 combo, but he was able to dodge this shots.

So I also don't see how he will beat Plant here or as he says even worst than Canelo.

But age is on his age, and probably that's why he is going to used here, he will be very busy with volume punching and hopefully, one or two punches will get Plant.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Caleb Plant vs David Benavidez
Post by: coin-investor on November 26, 2022, 12:49:21 PM
Caleb is on good momentum now after stopping Dirrell but it looks like he is in the big fight of his career much bigger than Canelo he is fighting a fighting machine in Benavidez who is a very dangerous fighter with fast footwork and lightning speed hands and power punch, this is a match worth watching as both fighters can deliver a knock out they are very even but I'll go for Benavidez he is a very hungry fighter who wants Canelo, he will be motivated to beat Plant so he can fight Canelo, who keeps on alluding him.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Caleb Plant vs David Benavidez
Post by: Coin_trader on November 26, 2022, 01:27:54 PM
David Bernavidez seems really hungry to fight Canelo, even though he only won the WBC interim supper middleweight title, but he want to a challenge against the top boxer in this division. I think he's a threat for Canelo, that's why Canelo reject his offer to fight with him. Actually Canelo doesn't in good position, he can't fight with light heavyweight boxer to get belt and there's few boxer keep improving themselves to challenge Canelo.

That is possible, although Canelo is like hiding on the "I don't want to fight another Mexican" narrative, but I do think that he doesn't want to face Benavidez who is young and hungry and has a father that is also a talker, just like Teo Sr and all other Father-son duo in boxing.

Hopefully, Canelo will have to give Benavidez some respect and fight the young lion.

As long though, Canelo will be true to his words that he is not shy to fight anyone and to proved his greatness regardless if his opponent has some Mexican blood in them.

Canelo is a great fighter to be coward on a challenge match. There’s really a chance that he is dodging this fight due to personal reason but I think that’s because he want to fight a boxer with a clean career and serious on boxing. Benavidez show many unprofessional characteristics that made him lose his belt. There’s no glory for Canelo to defeat a man like this since he has nothing to lose while Canelo will be put on a lot of shame if he will beaten by a problematic boxer like this.

He knew that Benavidez has the potential to become a good contender that’s why Canelo is giving him a chance to prove his worth and face Canelo win professional way. I agree on this because challenge should be earned by good track record including ethics on the sports. Selling tickets for a match that includes boxer that is known caught for using a cocaine and forfeiting the match will give some negative effect to the fight image.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Caleb Plant vs David Benavidez
Post by: inthelongrun on November 26, 2022, 02:23:53 PM
Yes, this is a done deal a few weeks already. David Benavidez is just waiting for anybody to fight him and it will be a done deal already. I am referring to his PBC stablemates Caleb Plant and Jermall Charlo who's been calling Canelo over the years but are scared to fight each other and to Benavidez. Benavidez is not a technical fighter like Plant and Charlo, but he is gifted with heavy hands, an iron chin and he is huge in his division. At 25 years old, this kid will have the strength and stamina to brawl for 12 rounds until its opponents cannot take it anymore. I am starting to like Plant but I believe Benavidez will stop him. Only the referee can make Plant survives the full 12 rounds if it allows him to grab, clinch and hug too much. 


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Caleb Plant vs David Benavidez
Post by: robelneo on November 26, 2022, 02:31:17 PM


So I also don't see how he will beat Plant here or as he says even worst than Canelo.
He is a hungry young man he is the youngest to win the title he has power speed and can take punches, he can beat just about anybody in his division I have checked the highlights of his fight and am convinced he is dangerous and will put any opponent in trouble and that includes Caleb Plant
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But age is on his age, and probably that's why he is going to use it here, he will be very busy with volume punching and hopefully, one or two punches will get Plant.
That's likely what's going to happen, he will use his age and reach advantage and of course speed and volume punching, Caleb must come out with a good plan to counter all of this or he will be in big trouble, Benavidez will knock out Caleb here if he opted to engage.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Caleb Plant vs David Benavidez
Post by: roslinpl on November 26, 2022, 02:42:10 PM
Caleb is on good momentum now after stopping Dirrell but it looks like he is in the big fight of his career much bigger. This tour will be define as the tour of revenge between this two fighters. Because they already in a way to solve the old revenge between the two players. Caleb had stopped the game of  Dirrell, but David is not same as Dirrell. David is the fighting machine, for that reason people love their game. The footwork of the David is really amazing as compared to the footwork of the Caleb. David will make a good game as compared to the Caleb. My support for this game was only to David as compared to Caleb.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Caleb Plant vs David Benavidez
Post by: Saisher on November 26, 2022, 03:33:43 PM
This is a risky and dangerous fight for both fighters they are both former champions so we can consider this a battle of champions, both fighters are tough but Benavidez has a definite edge against Plant, he knows how to use his long reach and had good footwork, his rapid punch is awesome and he loves to mix and whenever he mixes up he always emerges on the advantage, if Caleb decides to engage he better have an iron chin and a strong body as Benavidez loves to go on both body and face.
This match-up sure has a making of a good fight


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Caleb Plant vs David Benavidez
Post by: Shamm on November 26, 2022, 04:12:43 PM
This is a risky fight for both fighters they are both former champions so we can consider this a battle of champions, both fighters are tough but Benavidez has a definite edge against Plant, he knows how to use his long reach and had good footwork, his rapid punch is awesome and he loves to mix and whenever he mixes up he always emerges on the advantage, if Caleb decides to engage he better have an iron chin and a strong body as Benavidez loves to go on both body and face.
This match-up sure has a making of a good fight

These both fighters are good in performance and also they are both champions so we can not deny that this fight will be a good fight to watch and also we the gamblers if we put our bet on the fighter that we think that they will win then it's more thrill and excitement. For me in this fight David will be have a chance to win but we all know that caleb will do his best to win this fight so all we can do for now is that wait for the final match and pit our bet in our favorite.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Caleb Plant vs David Benavidez
Post by: lionheart78 on November 26, 2022, 04:39:50 PM
The fight between Caleb Plant and David Benavidez is very interesting since they both fight Dirrell, Benavidez got the win via TKO in the 9th round via commissioner stopping the fight[1](possibly due to a nasty cut on the eye of Dirrell)  while Caleb plant got a KO win[2] on the same round.  Taking who has more power behind the punches, I can say Caleb Plant has more power behind his punch but Benavidez, as I see him, is a more technical defensive player that may counter Caleb Plant's boxing style.  Besides, David Benavidez is good at hitting from the distance and at the same time throwing short punches when in close quarters.  Caleb Plant might watch for Benavidez's elbow when they mixed it up on the inside since Benavidez has the tendency to use his elbow[3] when he is punching in the close quarters.

I might go to Benavidez to control Caleb Plant here through his reach advantage.




[1] https://youtu.be/_WLMz2Wj5yc?t=2367
[2] https://youtu.be/DxF5cu7fG3U?t=107
[3] https://youtu.be/_WLMz2Wj5yc?t=2211




Title: Re: [Boxing]: Caleb Plant vs David Benavidez
Post by: Vaculin on November 26, 2022, 05:12:25 PM
David Bernavidez seems really hungry to fight Canelo, even though he only won the WBC interim supper middleweight title, but he want to a challenge against the top boxer in this division. I think he's a threat for Canelo, that's why Canelo reject his offer to fight with him. Actually Canelo doesn't in good position, he can't fight with light heavyweight boxer to get belt and there's few boxer keep improving themselves to challenge Canelo.

Between this fight, I'd pick David Benavidez over Caleb Plant. I've saw some of his fights already and I think that this David Benavidez is indeed ready to fight the undisputed boxer, Saul Canelo Alvarez as he also had the right skills to at least keep up with the current undisputed. Although we cannot really say and confirm that Canelo is ducking on him because the latter is quite busy climbing the light-heavyweight but if David will pull an upset this time, I bet his next foe will be Canelo.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Caleb Plant vs David Benavidez
Post by: cabron on November 26, 2022, 05:18:39 PM
Plant took the risk and failed against Canelo, he wouldn't mind losing again against the KO artist, He doesn't have the power compared to the bigger fighter like Benavidez. He's taking this step to get to Canelo again. Sure he got the respect of boxing fans but Benavidez will break him apart and uproot Plant in the later rounds.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Caleb Plant vs David Benavidez
Post by: Balmain on November 26, 2022, 06:18:03 PM
Plant's left hook in the first leg was so epic. The fact that he threw dirt on him after TKO made me laugh a lot. The very ambitious and stable Plant is obviously trying hard to fight Canelo again. I think this rematch will definitely be knocked out, both sides will try to finish each other. If Benavidez has a drug problem, it will affect his performance. That's why Plant would be a better choice for me.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Caleb Plant vs David Benavidez
Post by: o48o on November 26, 2022, 06:22:39 PM
If i had to guess (and i do because i am betting on this), It all depends on if Benavidez can absorb punches from Caleb, because he needs to do that as his defense sucks.

Meanwhile Caleb has excellent defense but gets probably cornered a lot by Benavidez who just like to walk towards.

This makes me believe that Knock out by Caleb could happen when Caleb is cornered. Because Caleb does an excellent bob and weave, and uppercut after low bob and weave could just be too powerful when it lands. And Benavidez doesn't really dodge well so he needs to be able to absorb some punches. But maybe it's too much to ask absorb that kind of punch to chin from Caleb





Title: Re: [Boxing]: Caleb Plant vs David Benavidez
Post by: Bananington on November 26, 2022, 07:20:20 PM
Benavidez, on the other hand is a two-time former WBC super middleweight champion, never lost the belt to any fighter though. It was all his wrong doing, first he lost the title when he was tested positive for cocaine. And then after getting back the title, he lost it again this time to Roamer Alexis Angulo as he can't make the weight.
Benavidez coming from a history of drug use for enhanced performance will still have not recovered completely, there is that possibility and in my opinion will still be struggling adjusting to fighting without drugs completely. And although he says that this fight is personal for him, Plant is the best bet to win this fight building on his momentum from his last fight, and just like his last fight where his opponent said the fight was personal too but still lost to him, Benavidez can still loose.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Caleb Plant vs David Benavidez
Post by: serjent05 on November 26, 2022, 07:46:19 PM
If i had to guess (and i do because i am betting on this), It all depends on if Benavidez can absorb punches from Caleb, because he needs to do that as his defense sucks.

Meanwhile Caleb has excellent defense but gets probably cornered a lot by Benavidez who just like to walk towards.

This makes me believe that Knock out by Caleb could happen when Caleb is cornered. Because Caleb does an excellent bob and weave, and uppercut after low bob and weave could just be too powerful when it lands. And Benavidez doesn't really dodge well so he needs to be able to absorb some punches. But maybe it's too much to ask absorb that kind of punch to chin from Caleb


That is if he caught Benavidez off guard.  Watching Benavidez fight, I saw him well guarded with is hands always up on a difference that covers the whole of his face and part below his chin.  Benavidez is also cautious in approaching his target and in the close quarter he has his one hand on clinch on the neck of his opponent while throwing his free hands.  That position is somehow disadvantageous to Benavidez's opponent.

Benavidez, on the other hand is a two-time former WBC super middleweight champion, never lost the belt to any fighter though. It was all his wrong doing, first he lost the title when he was tested positive for cocaine. And then after getting back the title, he lost it again this time to Roamer Alexis Angulo as he can't make the weight.
Benavidez coming from a history of drug use for enhanced performance will still have not recovered completely, there is that possibility and in my opinion will still be struggling adjusting to fighting without drugs completely. And although he says that this fight is personal for him, Plant is the best bet to win this fight building on his momentum from his last fight, and just like his last fight where his opponent said the fight was personal too but still lost to him, Benavidez can still loose.

It isn't an enhancing drug that tested positive on Benavidez, it is cocaine and cocaine isn't an enhancing drug.[1], a recreational drugs though labeled as banned substance.  I think it won't have any effect on the upcoming fight of Benavidez against Plant.  The worrisome thing is the lack of discipline of Benavidez since he was stripped of his belt twice and one of them is him not meeting the weight requirement.



[1] https://www.michaelshouse.com/blog/athletes-may-use-cocaine-to-gain-an-edge-in-their-sport/


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Caleb Plant vs David Benavidez
Post by: Kemarit on November 26, 2022, 08:22:32 PM
Benavidez, on the other hand is a two-time former WBC super middleweight champion, never lost the belt to any fighter though. It was all his wrong doing, first he lost the title when he was tested positive for cocaine. And then after getting back the title, he lost it again this time to Roamer Alexis Angulo as he can't make the weight.
Benavidez coming from a history of drug use for enhanced performance will still have not recovered completely, there is that possibility and in my opinion will still be struggling adjusting to fighting without drugs completely. And although he says that this fight is personal for him, Plant is the best bet to win this fight building on his momentum from his last fight, and just like his last fight where his opponent said the fight was personal too but still lost to him, Benavidez can still loose.

It's cocaine that is found in his system, not some type of Peds that usually sports athlete abuse. Maybe he used it to control his weight or just trying it out, we really don't know. But for sure it will have some effect on his body later. Possible though that he has completely stop after he was get caught in him system.

So that is very important to him, to really just focus and be motivated and regain the belt (although it was interim if I'm not mistaken and not the regular belt). And he is looking forward to fight the best in this division which is Canelo Alvarez. So personal or not, he needs to win against Plant and beat him.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Caleb Plant vs David Benavidez
Post by: cryptomaniac_xxx on November 26, 2022, 08:49:33 PM
If i had to guess (and i do because i am betting on this), It all depends on if Benavidez can absorb punches from Caleb, because he needs to do that as his defense sucks.

Meanwhile Caleb has excellent defense but gets probably cornered a lot by Benavidez who just like to walk towards.

For me Caleb also doesn't have a good defense as well, I mean Dirrell can hit him because Anthony throws combination, and that is why Canelo also was able to got him in the later round because he is known to put down his arms a bit.

This makes me believe that Knock out by Caleb could happen when Caleb is cornered. Because Caleb does an excellent bob and weave, and uppercut after low bob and weave could just be too powerful when it lands. And Benavidez doesn't really dodge well so he needs to be able to absorb some punches. But maybe it's too much to ask absorb that kind of punch to chin from Caleb

But he has quick hands and that left hook is deadly, in his amazing knockout on Dirrell, they both throw at the same time, but it was Caleb who got it first and the timing of that left hook. So this is going to be very difficult to predict this early. Both has the ability to ko each other.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Caleb Plant vs David Benavidez
Post by: Johnyz on November 26, 2022, 08:52:01 PM
Plant took the risk and failed against Canelo, he wouldn't mind losing again against the KO artist, He doesn't have the power compared to the bigger fighter like Benavidez. He's taking this step to get to Canelo again. Sure he got the respect of boxing fans but Benavidez will break him apart and uproot Plant in the later rounds.
This will be another hard match for Plant, and knowing Benavidez I’m sure he will not make so easy for Plant to win. If Plant wants to fight Canelo again, then he should be more serious on this fight, both boxer are good though but when it comes to power and consistency, I think Benavidez will have a good advantage here.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Caleb Plant vs David Benavidez
Post by: Accardo on November 26, 2022, 10:00:18 PM
The both boxers have been embarking on verbal fists for quite a long time, now its time for the fight to commence. Next year will be a better beginning for whoever wins this fight. Benavidez known for his trash talks already said he'll beat the hell out of Plant.
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“This fight for me is 100% personal with Caleb Plant,” said Benavidez during an interview with BoxingScene.com. “I’m really looking to go in there and beat the shit out of him.”

On the other hand, Plant needs to get back to his position after losing his title to Canelo, I think a win for him will be of good advantage to his career added to his previous win against Direll, which Benavidez commended, yet Benavidez is not bothered in the least about Plant's win over Direll as he's waiting for the D' day that he'll land numerous KO on Plant.

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“My plan is go in there and do what I know I can do to Caleb Plant and that’s gonna be put a beating on him worse than Canelo.”

https://www.boxingscene.com/david-benavidez-this-fight-100-personal-with-plant-gonna-put-beating-on-him-worse-canelo--170689


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Caleb Plant vs David Benavidez
Post by: Baofeng on November 26, 2022, 10:25:01 PM
OK, this early it seems that everyone is looking for a Benavidez KO/TKO, thanks so far for those who voted.

And I do agree, volume punching + power equals destruction.  And that's what David has, he throws a lot punches, a volume puncher at this division, he somewhat flat footed, but once he got the rhythm, he will definitely have to chase Plant.

On the other hand, Plant has power though and the movement, so this is a clash of style.

So maybe it will be Caleb Plant early or half of the fight but then when David has settled down, he will go for that volume to score a stoppage or even to get a KO.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Caleb Plant vs David Benavidez
Post by: BitDane on November 26, 2022, 10:33:34 PM
The both boxers have been embarking on verbal fists for quite a long time, now its time for the fight to commence. Next year will be a better beginning for whoever wins this fight. Benavidez known for his trash talks already said he'll beat the hell out of Plant.
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“This fight for me is 100% personal with Caleb Plant,” said Benavidez during an interview with BoxingScene.com. “I’m really looking to go in there and beat the shit out of him.”

On the other hand, Plant needs to get back to his position after losing his title to Canelo, I think a win for him will be of good advantage to his career added to his previous win against Direll, which Benavidez commended, yet Benavidez is not bothered in the least about Plant's win over Direll as he's the D' day that he'll land numerous KO on Plant.

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“My plan is go in there and do what I know I can do to Caleb Plant and that’s gonna be put a beating on him worse than Canelo.”

https://www.boxingscene.com/david-benavidez-this-fight-100-personal-with-plant-gonna-put-beating-on-him-worse-canelo--170689

It looks like both boxers is hyping the fight.  Noises from social media only confirms one thing, they wanted more people to know about the fight and get interested via their "verbal fist".  And I am sure that is one effective way of making someone curious and possibly watch the fight.

Anyway Caleb Plant is a beast, I watched how he got Dirrell KO'ed in just 1 punch.  So Benavidez getting knockdown in this fight isn't impossible.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Caleb Plant vs David Benavidez
Post by: AmoreJaz on November 26, 2022, 11:00:07 PM
The both boxers have been embarking on verbal fists for quite a long time, now its time for the fight to commence. Next year will be a better beginning for whoever wins this fight. Benavidez known for his trash talks already said he'll beat the hell out of Plant.
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“This fight for me is 100% personal with Caleb Plant,” said Benavidez during an interview with BoxingScene.com. “I’m really looking to go in there and beat the shit out of him.”

On the other hand, Plant needs to get back to his position after losing his title to Canelo, I think a win for him will be of good advantage to his career added to his previous win against Direll, which Benavidez commended, yet Benavidez is not bothered in the least about Plant's win over Direll as he's the D' day that he'll land numerous KO on Plant.

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“My plan is go in there and do what I know I can do to Caleb Plant and that’s gonna be put a beating on him worse than Canelo.”

https://www.boxingscene.com/david-benavidez-this-fight-100-personal-with-plant-gonna-put-beating-on-him-worse-canelo--170689

It looks like both boxers is hyping the fight.  Noises from social media only confirms one thing, they wanted more people to know about the fight and get interested via their "verbal fist".  And I am sure that is one effective way of making someone curious and possibly watch the fight.

Anyway Caleb Plant is a beast, I watched how he got Dirrell KO'ed in just 1 punch.  So Benavidez getting knockdown in this fight isn't impossible.

both boxers know what is at stake on this fight, so both have very good motivation to seriously prepare for this fight. a good toe-to-toe fight is expected here. a lot are rooting for benavidez from this forum. but let us see how the odds will play once bookies listed this match. they need to hype up to earn good money from this fight. anyway, both are known already in the boxing category.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Caleb Plant vs David Benavidez
Post by: Questat on November 27, 2022, 04:56:37 PM
It seems that we will see this fight happening in 2023, no date yet, but according to Plant, he has signed the contract already.

https://i.imgur.com/PqM25Le.png

https://twitter.com/SweetHandsPlant/status/1588279180281532417

Plant is riding on a momentum of his great knockout against Anthony Dirrell last month,

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DxF5cu7fG3U

Benavidez, on the other hand is a two-time former WBC super middleweight champion, never lost the belt to any fighter though. It was all his wrong doing, first he lost the title when he was tested positive for cocaine. And then after getting back the title, he lost it again this time to Roamer Alexis Angulo as he can't make the weight.

Benavidez wanted to go and fight Canelo Alvarez, but the camp of Canelo says no, as they want him to proved himself. So maybe if he beat Plant worst than Canelo beat him, he might gain some respect and could potentially face Alvarez in the future.

What are your thoughts on this fight?

I just knew it now that David was once a champion in this division but got stripped because of that incident, that's tough. Now he is making his name again because his ultimate goal is to have a dance with the undisputed champion, Canelo Alvarez. The kid's chances to defeat Caleb Plant is quite pretty and I'm much more inclined to see him win rather than Plant, although Plant could be much devastating this time because defeating David will be his way to have his rematch with Canelo.

Regarding the status of this fight, I've read an article that this fight will take place somewhere in Autumn 2023, so it's likely on the 4th quarter and much longer than what I expected when I first saw this thread.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Caleb Plant vs David Benavidez
Post by: serjent05 on November 27, 2022, 08:43:40 PM
I just knew it now that David was once a champion in this division but got stripped because of that incident, that's tough. Now he is making his name again because his ultimate goal is to have a dance with the undisputed champion, Canelo Alvarez.

The thing is David never lose a fight although he was stripped of a title twice.  I think this is one major problem of Benavidez camp.  The lack of discipline of Benavidez.  Though I believe Benavidez will behave this time since this fight might be the ladder of his target fight against Canelo Alvarez.

The kid's chances to defeat Caleb Plant is quite pretty and I'm much more inclined to see him win rather than Plant, although Plant could be much devastating this time because defeating David will be his way to have his rematch with Canelo.

I also think that Benavidez has the advantage.  As long as Benavidez isn't caught by a knockout punch, I think he will win the fight via UD or KO.  I believe the motivation on this fight is that the winner will have a chance to face Canelo which is pretty much the target of both boxer.

both boxers know what is at stake on this fight, so both have very good motivation to seriously prepare for this fight. a good toe-to-toe fight is expected here. a lot are rooting for benavidez from this forum. but let us see how the odds will play once bookies listed this match. they need to hype up to earn good money from this fight. anyway, both are known already in the boxing category.

I think I will see Benavidez bulldozing his way forward to Plant.  Well, being flat-footed, moving forward is the only way to reach the opponent.  I just hope that Benavidez won't be caught by a strong punch while moving his way forward to hit Plant. If he did caught by Plant heavy punches, we might see Benavidez kissing the canvas.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Caleb Plant vs David Benavidez
Post by: cryptomaniac_xxx on November 27, 2022, 08:47:04 PM
I just knew it now that David was once a champion in this division but got stripped because of that incident, that's tough. Now he is making his name again because his ultimate goal is to have a dance with the undisputed champion, Canelo Alvarez. The kid's chances to defeat Caleb Plant is quite pretty and I'm much more inclined to see him win rather than Plant, although Plant could be much devastating this time because defeating David will be his way to have his rematch with Canelo.

Yes, but if I'm not mistaken, it was not a regular belt that Canelo has, was a interim title. But still he has shown some bright future that time, unfortunately, many young boxers turn into something like this, (drugs). But I do hope that he change already because he has matured and has been calling Canelo for the last year or so. But Canelo doesn't want to give David that fight yet.

Regarding the status of this fight, I've read an article that this fight will take place somewhere in Autumn 2023, so it's likely on the 4th quarter and much longer than what I expected when I first saw this thread.

It will be a bad decision for this two if they fight on the 4th quarter because it will be like a year of waiting. I'm hinting that this fight can happen early next year. While both of them are still very fresh specially Plant coming from that knockout of the year candidate.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Caleb Plant vs David Benavidez
Post by: TimeTeller on November 27, 2022, 09:03:47 PM
I just knew it now that David was once a champion in this division but got stripped because of that incident, that's tough. Now he is making his name again because his ultimate goal is to have a dance with the undisputed champion, Canelo Alvarez. The kid's chances to defeat Caleb Plant is quite pretty and I'm much more inclined to see him win rather than Plant, although Plant could be much devastating this time because defeating David will be his way to have his rematch with Canelo.

Yes, but if I'm not mistaken, it was not a regular belt that Canelo has, was a interim title. But still he has shown some bright future that time, unfortunately, many young boxers turn into something like this, (drugs). But I do hope that he change already because he has matured and has been calling Canelo for the last year or so. But Canelo doesn't want to give David that fight yet.

Regarding the status of this fight, I've read an article that this fight will take place somewhere in Autumn 2023, so it's likely on the 4th quarter and much longer than what I expected when I first saw this thread.

It will be a bad decision for this two if they fight on the 4th quarter because it will be like a year of waiting. I'm hinting that this fight can happen early next year. While both of them are still very fresh specially Plant coming from that knockout of the year candidate.

Both are aiming to have a hand on Canelo, so more than likely, they will do their own rigid preparations for this one.
Yes, I would llike to see it in the first 2 quarters of this coming year. And once we got the winner of this match, then high likely that he will call for a fight with Canelo.
But in boxing, we know that it depends on their respective promoters who will be their next opponent, as the consideration of purse split is always there.
They both wanted to win this fight as they have their own plans, but seems that they will be chasing for Canelo here. The odds may be slightly in favor with Plant.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Caleb Plant vs David Benavidez
Post by: o48o on November 27, 2022, 09:23:44 PM

That is if he caught Benavidez off guard.  Watching Benavidez fight, I saw him well guarded with is hands always up on a difference that covers the whole of his face and part below his chin.  Benavidez is also cautious in approaching his target and in the close quarter he has his one hand on clinch on the neck of his opponent while throwing his free hands.  That position is somehow disadvantageous to Benavidez's opponent.
Well there's that, but my guess is that caleb could take an advantage of Benavidez's confidence. I mean sometimes when Benavidez hits combos it just looks like opponents let him do that. Of course they could be so devastating strikes that opponents are going panic defence mode, but from the outside it just looks some of his like opponents just stand hands up and he gets to beat them as much as he wants.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Caleb Plant vs David Benavidez
Post by: harizen on November 27, 2022, 10:57:53 PM
OK, this early it seems that everyone is looking for a Benavidez KO/TKO, thanks so far for those who voted.

I think Caleb Plant losing to Canelo plays a big reason why others are eyeing Benavidez to win in this match. Can't blame them though. However, if we look at the technical side, Benavidez is not on the same tier as Canelo "for now" that's why I'm seeing this fight won't be a landslide win to either Benavidez or Plant.

WBA (Regular) Super middleweight champion David Morrell Jr., who was waiting on the winner of this fight between Benavidez and Plant, gives a 50-50 prediction on this fight since both boxers do have their own advantages. The turning point of this match will now depend on how these boxers will execute successfully their respective strategies.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Caleb Plant vs David Benavidez
Post by: Vaculin on November 28, 2022, 03:05:54 PM
Benavidez, on the other hand is a two-time former WBC super middleweight champion, never lost the belt to any fighter though. It was all his wrong doing, first he lost the title when he was tested positive for cocaine. And then after getting back the title, he lost it again this time to Roamer Alexis Angulo as he can't make the weight.
Benavidez coming from a history of drug use for enhanced performance will still have not recovered completely, there is that possibility and in my opinion will still be struggling adjusting to fighting without drugs completely. And although he says that this fight is personal for him, Plant is the best bet to win this fight building on his momentum from his last fight, and just like his last fight where his opponent said the fight was personal too but still lost to him, Benavidez can still loose.

It's cocaine that is found in his system, not some type of Peds that usually sports athlete abuse. Maybe he used it to control his weight or just trying it out, we really don't know. But for sure it will have some effect on his body later. Possible though that he has completely stop after he was get caught in him system.

So that is very important to him, to really just focus and be motivated and regain the belt (although it was interim if I'm not mistaken and not the regular belt). And he is looking forward to fight the best in this division which is Canelo Alvarez. So personal or not, he needs to win against Plant and beat him.

That wasn't a regular belt, it was the WBC World Super Middleweight title that he won way back 2017 against Ronald Gavril and he successfully defended that title for more than 2 years until he was stripped when VADA wanted to collect his urine sample and found positive for Cocaine consumption. Canelo Alvarez only got the chance to laid his hands on it when it was vacated and fought it with Callum Smith.

David missed his chance on fighting Canelo Alvarez just because of that cocaine. Although, I'm not sure if he can defeat Canelo at that time if ever they got the chance. Now, this is his journey to redemption and I hope David already learned his lesson.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Caleb Plant vs David Benavidez
Post by: Baofeng on November 28, 2022, 08:24:39 PM
Ok it seems that Canelo Alvarez per this interview, says that he favored or see Benavidez winning against Plant.

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“It's going to be a very competitive fight between [Benavidez and Plant.] I personally believe that Benavidez wins,” Alvarez told bet365. “I am here to face the best and make the best fights in boxing. I am interested in all those fights. Whatever leads me to make history. That is why I am here.” 

https://www.boxingscene.com/canelo-alvarez-picks-benavidez-beat-plant-its-going-competitive--170770

And probably this is good news for Benavidez as he might face Alvarez next if he wins this fight. At least him and his Father has been requesting this fight for a long time. And if David win and become the mandatory for one of Alvarez belt then this fight could be made.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Caleb Plant vs David Benavidez
Post by: Japinat on November 30, 2022, 05:28:40 PM
Ok it seems that Canelo Alvarez per this interview, says that he favored or see Benavidez winning against Plant.

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“It's going to be a very competitive fight between [Benavidez and Plant.] I personally believe that Benavidez wins,” Alvarez told bet365. “I am here to face the best and make the best fights in boxing. I am interested in all those fights. Whatever leads me to make history. That is why I am here.” 

https://www.boxingscene.com/canelo-alvarez-picks-benavidez-beat-plant-its-going-competitive--170770

And probably this is good news for Benavidez as he might face Alvarez next if he wins this fight. At least him and his Father has been requesting this fight for a long time. And if David win and become the mandatory for one of Alvarez belt then this fight could be made.

I hope so that Canelo won't be ducking if that time comes because after Plant, David is next line to fight Canelo. I'm not saying that he is scared but I just hope that he will face David this time and won't say again that fighting the latter won't give him some benefits. Of course, what's there left? He already got the 4-belts and the title.

But I think David have to wait because Canelo's priority for now is to face Bivol again in a rematch, although there might not be much difference this time.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Caleb Plant vs David Benavidez
Post by: Kemarit on November 30, 2022, 06:10:52 PM
Ok it seems that Canelo Alvarez per this interview, says that he favored or see Benavidez winning against Plant.

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“It's going to be a very competitive fight between [Benavidez and Plant.] I personally believe that Benavidez wins,” Alvarez told bet365. “I am here to face the best and make the best fights in boxing. I am interested in all those fights. Whatever leads me to make history. That is why I am here.” 

https://www.boxingscene.com/canelo-alvarez-picks-benavidez-beat-plant-its-going-competitive--170770

And probably this is good news for Benavidez as he might face Alvarez next if he wins this fight. At least him and his Father has been requesting this fight for a long time. And if David win and become the mandatory for one of Alvarez belt then this fight could be made.

I hope so that Canelo won't be ducking if that time comes because after Plant, David is next line to fight Canelo. I'm not saying that he is scared but I just hope that he will face David this time and won't say again that fighting the latter won't give him some benefits. Of course, what's there left? He already got the 4-belts and the title.

But I think David have to wait because Canelo's priority for now is to face Bivol again in a rematch, although there might not be much difference this time.

Yes, it's that complicated in Canelo's end, I mean he still wants to fight Bivol and avenge his defeat, but then again there is someone in the horizon, a young lion who wants to challenge Canelo.

And now that is fight is ordered or going to be made, the winner could be on Canelo.

But let's wait, if David wanted to face Canelo next year, focused on this fight first. Let his father do the talking in the media to hyper his fight against Caleb.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Caleb Plant vs David Benavidez
Post by: Baofeng on December 01, 2022, 11:33:44 AM
Ok it seems that Canelo Alvarez per this interview, says that he favored or see Benavidez winning against Plant.

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“It's going to be a very competitive fight between [Benavidez and Plant.] I personally believe that Benavidez wins,” Alvarez told bet365. “I am here to face the best and make the best fights in boxing. I am interested in all those fights. Whatever leads me to make history. That is why I am here.” 

https://www.boxingscene.com/canelo-alvarez-picks-benavidez-beat-plant-its-going-competitive--170770

And probably this is good news for Benavidez as he might face Alvarez next if he wins this fight. At least him and his Father has been requesting this fight for a long time. And if David win and become the mandatory for one of Alvarez belt then this fight could be made.

I hope so that Canelo won't be ducking if that time comes because after Plant, David is next line to fight Canelo. I'm not saying that he is scared but I just hope that he will face David this time and won't say again that fighting the latter won't give him some benefits. Of course, what's there left? He already got the 4-belts and the title.

But I think David have to wait because Canelo's priority for now is to face Bivol again in a rematch, although there might not be much difference this time.

Hehehe, I don't think that Canelo is ducking anyone, and since he is the cash cow, everyone is wanting to fight him. So he is the one who will dictate who he wanted to fight. And those who have been chosen are very lucky like Caleb because of the money that they will get fighting him.

So yes, David could wait for more, he is still very young, he doesn't need to rush himself against Canelo.

And this is the perfect time for him to shine, beat Caleb Plant first because he can get his ticket to the lottery.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Caleb Plant vs David Benavidez
Post by: btc_angela on December 01, 2022, 01:49:47 PM
OK, this early it seems that everyone is looking for a Benavidez KO/TKO, thanks so far for those who voted.

I think Caleb Plant losing to Canelo plays a big reason why others are eyeing Benavidez to win in this match. Can't blame them though. However, if we look at the technical side, Benavidez is not on the same tier as Canelo "for now" that's why I'm seeing this fight won't be a landslide win to either Benavidez or Plant.

WBA (Regular) Super middleweight champion David Morrell Jr., who was waiting on the winner of this fight between Benavidez and Plant, gives a 50-50 prediction on this fight since both boxers do have their own advantages. The turning point of this match will now depend on how these boxers will execute successfully their respective strategies.

Probably because we don't want to see Canelo fight Plant a second time around, and probably Canelo is not going to be interested as well. So it's better for Benavidez to win in this fight so that he will be the next in line for Canelo's belt at 168 lbs.

Or how either will execute their game plan and if that doesn't work, adjust in the fight itself. And usually those that can adjust will win in any fight. So I do agree that it still 50/50 at this point as bot has strong side and good team behind to formulate strategies and what to in the middle of the fight itself.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Caleb Plant vs David Benavidez
Post by: Jating on December 01, 2022, 01:56:55 PM
OK, this early it seems that everyone is looking for a Benavidez KO/TKO, thanks so far for those who voted.

I think Caleb Plant losing to Canelo plays a big reason why others are eyeing Benavidez to win in this match. Can't blame them though. However, if we look at the technical side, Benavidez is not on the same tier as Canelo "for now" that's why I'm seeing this fight won't be a landslide win to either Benavidez or Plant.

WBA (Regular) Super middleweight champion David Morrell Jr., who was waiting on the winner of this fight between Benavidez and Plant, gives a 50-50 prediction on this fight since both boxers do have their own advantages. The turning point of this match will now depend on how these boxers will execute successfully their respective strategies.

Probably because we don't want to see Canelo fight Plant a second time around, and probably Canelo is not going to be interested as well. So it's better for Benavidez to win in this fight so that he will be the next in line for Canelo's belt at 168 lbs.

Or how either will execute their game plan and if that doesn't work, adjust in the fight itself. And usually those that can adjust will win in any fight. So I do agree that it still 50/50 at this point as bot has strong side and good team behind to formulate strategies and what to in the middle of the fight itself.

For power, and volume punching, I will give a slight advantage to David Benavidez, as he usually throw power punches and it is in bunch.

But as far as experience goes specially that he has fought Canelo already, that is the top tier of this division and even if he lost that one, he gain a valuable lesson and probably it help him in his fight against Dirrell.

So yeah, it's hard to predict for now, I haven't check the sports bookies if there are odds though, but chances are their might not be one as this is not yet official as far as I know.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Caleb Plant vs David Benavidez
Post by: Shamm on December 01, 2022, 02:10:18 PM
OK, this early it seems that everyone is looking for a Benavidez KO/TKO, thanks so far for those who voted.

I think Caleb Plant losing to Canelo plays a big reason why others are eyeing Benavidez to win in this match. Can't blame them though. However, if we look at the technical side, Benavidez is not on the same tier as Canelo "for now" that's why I'm seeing this fight won't be a landslide win to either Benavidez or Plant.

WBA (Regular) Super middleweight champion David Morrell Jr., who was waiting on the winner of this fight between Benavidez and Plant, gives a 50-50 prediction on this fight since both boxers do have their own advantages. The turning point of this match will now depend on how these boxers will execute successfully their respective strategies.

Probably because we don't want to see Canelo fight Plant a second time around, and probably Canelo is not going to be interested as well. So it's better for Benavidez to win in this fight so that he will be the next in line for Canelo's belt at 168 lbs.

Or how either will execute their game plan and if that doesn't work, adjust in the fight itself. And usually those that can adjust will win in any fight. So I do agree that it still 50/50 at this point as bot has strong side and good team behind to formulate strategies and what to in the middle of the fight itself.

For power, and volume punching, I will give a slight advantage to David Benavidez, as he usually throw power punches and it is in bunch.

But as far as experience goes specially that he has fought Canelo already, that is the top tier of this division and even if he lost that one, he gain a valuable lesson and probably it help him in his fight against Dirrell.

So yeah, it's hard to predict for now, I haven't check the sports bookies if there are odds though, but chances are their might not be one as this is not yet official as far as I know.

If who can win in this matchup between Caleb Plant vs.David Benavidez then canelo will always open to match up the winner but for this time as we all know that these both fighters are good so this is a very close fight for me.  And yes you are right that mate David benavidez style which is he throw a big punches or a solid punches makes him   to have a little advantage but for sure Caleb Plant already know that and prepare for his defense so the thrill is still there.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Caleb Plant vs David Benavidez
Post by: Japinat on December 01, 2022, 04:25:49 PM
Ok it seems that Canelo Alvarez per this interview, says that he favored or see Benavidez winning against Plant.

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“It's going to be a very competitive fight between [Benavidez and Plant.] I personally believe that Benavidez wins,” Alvarez told bet365. “I am here to face the best and make the best fights in boxing. I am interested in all those fights. Whatever leads me to make history. That is why I am here.” 

https://www.boxingscene.com/canelo-alvarez-picks-benavidez-beat-plant-its-going-competitive--170770

And probably this is good news for Benavidez as he might face Alvarez next if he wins this fight. At least him and his Father has been requesting this fight for a long time. And if David win and become the mandatory for one of Alvarez belt then this fight could be made.

I hope so that Canelo won't be ducking if that time comes because after Plant, David is next line to fight Canelo. I'm not saying that he is scared but I just hope that he will face David this time and won't say again that fighting the latter won't give him some benefits. Of course, what's there left? He already got the 4-belts and the title.

But I think David have to wait because Canelo's priority for now is to face Bivol again in a rematch, although there might not be much difference this time.

Yes, it's that complicated in Canelo's end, I mean he still wants to fight Bivol and avenge his defeat, but then again there is someone in the horizon, a young lion who wants to challenge Canelo.

And now that is fight is ordered or going to be made, the winner could be on Canelo.

But let's wait, if David wanted to face Canelo next year, focused on this fight first. Let his father do the talking in the media to hyper his fight against Caleb.

David Benavidez should know that after Caleb Plant, he will have to wait for at least 1-2 year before he can have that chance especially now that Canelo is still on the process of healing his wrist. So, a tune-up fight will likely happen as the first move that Canelo and his camp would take after the healing period before Canelo will take a much heavier boxers like David or Bivol. Who knows who will have the first dance because Bivol's priority is also Artur Beterbiev (if the latter defeats Yarde on the process)


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Caleb Plant vs David Benavidez
Post by: lionheart78 on December 01, 2022, 05:52:19 PM
David Benavidez should know that after Caleb Plant, he will have to wait for at least 1-2 year before he can have that chance especially now that Canelo is still on the process of healing his wrist. So, a tune-up fight will likely happen as the first move that Canelo and his camp would take after the healing period before Canelo will take a much heavier boxers like David or Bivol. Who knows who will have the first dance because Bivol's priority is also Artur Beterbiev (if the latter defeats Yarde on the process)

It looks like Bivol is ready to adjust and go down in the weight division just to make the rematch come true.  So I think right after Canelo recovered, he might be fighting Bivol next.  So probably if ever Davide Benavidez wins this upcoming match against Caleb Plant, he needs to wait longer for a Canelo match.  He wouldn't be the priority of Canelo in its next fight since negotiation between Bivol and Canelo is still going on  and Bivol is ready to take the adjustment so there is a better chance of deal closure.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Caleb Plant vs David Benavidez
Post by: inthelongrun on December 01, 2022, 06:41:23 PM
David Benavidez should know that after Caleb Plant, he will have to wait for at least 1-2 year before he can have that chance especially now that Canelo is still on the process of healing his wrist. So, a tune-up fight will likely happen as the first move that Canelo and his camp would take after the healing period before Canelo will take a much heavier boxers like David or Bivol. Who knows who will have the first dance because Bivol's priority is also Artur Beterbiev (if the latter defeats Yarde on the process)

It looks like Bivol is ready to adjust and go down in the weight division just to make the rematch come true.  So I think right after Canelo recovered, he might be fighting Bivol next.  So probably if ever Davide Benavidez wins this upcoming match against Caleb Plant, he needs to wait longer for a Canelo match.  He wouldn't be the priority of Canelo in its next fight since negotiation between Bivol and Canelo is still going on  and Bivol is ready to take the adjustment so there is a better chance of deal closure.

This is what happens when the champion is a superstar. David Benavidez is the interim WBC champion which means he is already the mandatory of Canelo. But corruption is common in boxing especially in the sanctioning bodies WBA and WBC. Now Benavidez is facing another mandatory which doesn't make any sense. If the rules will be straight-forward, Canelo will be stripped of his WBC belt if he won't face the Benavidez-Plant winner next. But I doubt the WBC will strip him. Don Mauricio Sulaiman is salivating for his percentage in the next Canelo fight.

Bivol will be eager to drop down in weight and face Canelo because he isn't getting Beterbiev who's facing Yarde next. Biggest money available while a chance to become a 2 division champion and an undisputed in just a single fight.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Caleb Plant vs David Benavidez
Post by: Kemarit on December 01, 2022, 08:27:36 PM
Ok it seems that Canelo Alvarez per this interview, says that he favored or see Benavidez winning against Plant.

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“It's going to be a very competitive fight between [Benavidez and Plant.] I personally believe that Benavidez wins,” Alvarez told bet365. “I am here to face the best and make the best fights in boxing. I am interested in all those fights. Whatever leads me to make history. That is why I am here.” 

https://www.boxingscene.com/canelo-alvarez-picks-benavidez-beat-plant-its-going-competitive--170770

And probably this is good news for Benavidez as he might face Alvarez next if he wins this fight. At least him and his Father has been requesting this fight for a long time. And if David win and become the mandatory for one of Alvarez belt then this fight could be made.

I hope so that Canelo won't be ducking if that time comes because after Plant, David is next line to fight Canelo. I'm not saying that he is scared but I just hope that he will face David this time and won't say again that fighting the latter won't give him some benefits. Of course, what's there left? He already got the 4-belts and the title.

But I think David have to wait because Canelo's priority for now is to face Bivol again in a rematch, although there might not be much difference this time.

Yes, it's that complicated in Canelo's end, I mean he still wants to fight Bivol and avenge his defeat, but then again there is someone in the horizon, a young lion who wants to challenge Canelo.

And now that is fight is ordered or going to be made, the winner could be on Canelo.

But let's wait, if David wanted to face Canelo next year, focused on this fight first. Let his father do the talking in the media to hyper his fight against Caleb.

David Benavidez should know that after Caleb Plant, he will have to wait for at least 1-2 year before he can have that chance especially now that Canelo is still on the process of healing his wrist. So, a tune-up fight will likely happen as the first move that Canelo and his camp would take after the healing period before Canelo will take a much heavier boxers like David or Bivol. Who knows who will have the first dance because Bivol's priority is also Artur Beterbiev (if the latter defeats Yarde on the process)

That's too long to wait, he had the interim belt before, why not the sanctioning body allow to face their interim belt holder and the regular holder to just have one belt? Yeah, we all know the answer and that is boxing politics.

So Benavidez should proved them wrong or at least forced their hands to have him and Canelo fight in the future but not that 1-2 years of waiting. Maybe if he have the chance, Canelo is no longer in his prime. Assuming David won, he should be the next fight for Canelo for the belt.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Caleb Plant vs David Benavidez
Post by: lionheart78 on December 02, 2022, 05:34:23 PM
David Benavidez should know that after Caleb Plant, he will have to wait for at least 1-2 year before he can have that chance especially now that Canelo is still on the process of healing his wrist. So, a tune-up fight will likely happen as the first move that Canelo and his camp would take after the healing period before Canelo will take a much heavier boxers like David or Bivol. Who knows who will have the first dance because Bivol's priority is also Artur Beterbiev (if the latter defeats Yarde on the process)

It looks like Bivol is ready to adjust and go down in the weight division just to make the rematch come true.  So I think right after Canelo recovered, he might be fighting Bivol next.  So probably if ever Davide Benavidez wins this upcoming match against Caleb Plant, he needs to wait longer for a Canelo match.  He wouldn't be the priority of Canelo in its next fight since negotiation between Bivol and Canelo is still going on  and Bivol is ready to take the adjustment so there is a better chance of deal closure.

This is what happens when the champion is a superstar. David Benavidez is the interim WBC champion which means he is already the mandatory of Canelo. But corruption is common in boxing especially in the sanctioning bodies WBA and WBC. Now Benavidez is facing another mandatory which doesn't make any sense. If the rules will be straight-forward, Canelo will be stripped of his WBC belt if he won't face the Benavidez-Plant winner next. But I doubt the WBC will strip him. Don Mauricio Sulaiman is salivating for his percentage in the next Canelo fight.

The Bivol - Canelo fight rematch clause took place first than the possible mandatory fight of Canelo when he won his current titles, besides, facing Bivol first doesn't mean Canelo is skipping his mandatory defense.  There are lots of cases where a champion faces opponents other than the mandatory challenger first so I think this kind of arrangement is normal in boxing.  You may call it politics and I can see it normal thing to happen in boxing.

Bivol will be eager to drop down in weight and face Canelo because he isn't getting Beterbiev who's facing Yarde next. Biggest money available while a chance to become a 2 division champion and an undisputed in just a single fight.

Pretty much I agree, with the adjustment of Bivol to move in to Canelo's weight division also give opportunity to have a chance to get the belt from Canelo, that is if Canelo agree to only put his belt on line while Bivol's title is safe and sound. 


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Caleb Plant vs David Benavidez
Post by: mirakal on December 02, 2022, 06:41:19 PM
David Benavidez should know that after Caleb Plant, he will have to wait for at least 1-2 year before he can have that chance especially now that Canelo is still on the process of healing his wrist. So, a tune-up fight will likely happen as the first move that Canelo and his camp would take after the healing period before Canelo will take a much heavier boxers like David or Bivol. Who knows who will have the first dance because Bivol's priority is also Artur Beterbiev (if the latter defeats Yarde on the process)

It looks like Bivol is ready to adjust and go down in the weight division just to make the rematch come true.  So I think right after Canelo recovered, he might be fighting Bivol next.  So probably if ever Davide Benavidez wins this upcoming match against Caleb Plant, he needs to wait longer for a Canelo match.  He wouldn't be the priority of Canelo in its next fight since negotiation between Bivol and Canelo is still going on  and Bivol is ready to take the adjustment so there is a better chance of deal closure.

This is what happens when the champion is a superstar. David Benavidez is the interim WBC champion which means he is already the mandatory of Canelo. But corruption is common in boxing especially in the sanctioning bodies WBA and WBC. Now Benavidez is facing another mandatory which doesn't make any sense. If the rules will be straight-forward, Canelo will be stripped of his WBC belt if he won't face the Benavidez-Plant winner next. But I doubt the WBC will strip him. Don Mauricio Sulaiman is salivating for his percentage in the next Canelo fight.

Bivol will be eager to drop down in weight and face Canelo because he isn't getting Beterbiev who's facing Yarde next. Biggest money available while a chance to become a 2 division champion and an undisputed in just a single fight.

That's the other dark side of this industry, everything has business with the boxers, even the sanctioning bodies are also taking part of the negotiations under the table so that their favorites can maintain their status so that it can produce more milk for them. You certainly got a point, it's expected that the winner of this fight will get to fight the undisputed champion which is Canelo Alvarez. Although, let's already expect what would be the outcome because I don't see that the winner of this fight will have their chance because Canelo wouldn't take any fights if not Bivol.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Caleb Plant vs David Benavidez
Post by: Kemarit on December 02, 2022, 08:48:15 PM
David Benavidez should know that after Caleb Plant, he will have to wait for at least 1-2 year before he can have that chance especially now that Canelo is still on the process of healing his wrist. So, a tune-up fight will likely happen as the first move that Canelo and his camp would take after the healing period before Canelo will take a much heavier boxers like David or Bivol. Who knows who will have the first dance because Bivol's priority is also Artur Beterbiev (if the latter defeats Yarde on the process)

It looks like Bivol is ready to adjust and go down in the weight division just to make the rematch come true.  So I think right after Canelo recovered, he might be fighting Bivol next.  So probably if ever Davide Benavidez wins this upcoming match against Caleb Plant, he needs to wait longer for a Canelo match.  He wouldn't be the priority of Canelo in its next fight since negotiation between Bivol and Canelo is still going on  and Bivol is ready to take the adjustment so there is a better chance of deal closure.

This is what happens when the champion is a superstar. David Benavidez is the interim WBC champion which means he is already the mandatory of Canelo. But corruption is common in boxing especially in the sanctioning bodies WBA and WBC. Now Benavidez is facing another mandatory which doesn't make any sense. If the rules will be straight-forward, Canelo will be stripped of his WBC belt if he won't face the Benavidez-Plant winner next. But I doubt the WBC will strip him. Don Mauricio Sulaiman is salivating for his percentage in the next Canelo fight.

Bivol will be eager to drop down in weight and face Canelo because he isn't getting Beterbiev who's facing Yarde next. Biggest money available while a chance to become a 2 division champion and an undisputed in just a single fight.

That's the other dark side of this industry, everything has business with the boxers, even the sanctioning bodies are also taking part of the negotiations under the table so that their favorites can maintain their status so that it can produce more milk for them. You certainly got a point, it's expected that the winner of this fight will get to fight the undisputed champion which is Canelo Alvarez. Although, let's already expect what would be the outcome because I don't see that the winner of this fight will have their chance because Canelo wouldn't take any fights if not Bivol.

That's how boxing really turns into, politics, corruptions, under the table negotiation.

And that's why it's truly good to hear when someone derails their plan, like when Bivol defeated Canelo. Maybe if Canelo win, fight GGG and maybe go for another weight class which is the CW and cherry pick the opponent in which the WBC doesn't have a problem with. They will let Canelo go to the champion directly.

But then they don't want to impose Canelo's mandatory and will probably face Bivol again.

So we will have to wait for the outcome of this fight and hopefully if Benavidez win they Canelo can't deny David a fight.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Caleb Plant vs David Benavidez
Post by: Baofeng on December 04, 2022, 11:40:03 PM
David Benavidez should know that after Caleb Plant, he will have to wait for at least 1-2 year before he can have that chance especially now that Canelo is still on the process of healing his wrist. So, a tune-up fight will likely happen as the first move that Canelo and his camp would take after the healing period before Canelo will take a much heavier boxers like David or Bivol. Who knows who will have the first dance because Bivol's priority is also Artur Beterbiev (if the latter defeats Yarde on the process)

It looks like Bivol is ready to adjust and go down in the weight division just to make the rematch come true.  So I think right after Canelo recovered, he might be fighting Bivol next.  So probably if ever Davide Benavidez wins this upcoming match against Caleb Plant, he needs to wait longer for a Canelo match.  He wouldn't be the priority of Canelo in its next fight since negotiation between Bivol and Canelo is still going on  and Bivol is ready to take the adjustment so there is a better chance of deal closure.

That is a big possibility, as in the words of Canelo, Benavidez will have to earn his spot and even if he wins this fight, still though Canelo will prioritized Bivol, because for one the money is going to be huge, second, he like his revenge win. And this is not just one example of boxing politics that is obvious, there could be judges or referees that is bias one time or another to certain fighters. They could be paid by some entity or it might be they are doing it to benefit others.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Caleb Plant vs David Benavidez
Post by: Vaculin on December 05, 2022, 04:06:01 PM
Ok it seems that Canelo Alvarez per this interview, says that he favored or see Benavidez winning against Plant.

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“It's going to be a very competitive fight between [Benavidez and Plant.] I personally believe that Benavidez wins,” Alvarez told bet365. “I am here to face the best and make the best fights in boxing. I am interested in all those fights. Whatever leads me to make history. That is why I am here.” 

https://www.boxingscene.com/canelo-alvarez-picks-benavidez-beat-plant-its-going-competitive--170770

And probably this is good news for Benavidez as he might face Alvarez next if he wins this fight. At least him and his Father has been requesting this fight for a long time. And if David win and become the mandatory for one of Alvarez belt then this fight could be made.

I hope so that Canelo won't be ducking if that time comes because after Plant, David is next line to fight Canelo. I'm not saying that he is scared but I just hope that he will face David this time and won't say again that fighting the latter won't give him some benefits. Of course, what's there left? He already got the 4-belts and the title.

But I think David have to wait because Canelo's priority for now is to face Bivol again in a rematch, although there might not be much difference this time.

Yes, it's that complicated in Canelo's end, I mean he still wants to fight Bivol and avenge his defeat, but then again there is someone in the horizon, a young lion who wants to challenge Canelo.

And now that is fight is ordered or going to be made, the winner could be on Canelo.

But let's wait, if David wanted to face Canelo next year, focused on this fight first. Let his father do the talking in the media to hyper his fight against Caleb.

David Benavidez should know that after Caleb Plant, he will have to wait for at least 1-2 year before he can have that chance especially now that Canelo is still on the process of healing his wrist. So, a tune-up fight will likely happen as the first move that Canelo and his camp would take after the healing period before Canelo will take a much heavier boxers like David or Bivol. Who knows who will have the first dance because Bivol's priority is also Artur Beterbiev (if the latter defeats Yarde on the process)

That's too long to wait, he had the interim belt before, why not the sanctioning body allow to face their interim belt holder and the regular holder to just have one belt? Yeah, we all know the answer and that is boxing politics.

So Benavidez should proved them wrong or at least forced their hands to have him and Canelo fight in the future but not that 1-2 years of waiting. Maybe if he have the chance, Canelo is no longer in his prime. Assuming David won, he should be the next fight for Canelo for the belt.

Yes, that's the ugliest thing when it comes to boxing because these days, organizers and promoters are much more prioritizing money instead of the entertainment. They made the industry looked like a circus for giving a mismatch fights just to secure the profits instead of having a good fight from the pure challengers who already had an almost opportunity but they just can't because of the politics that is swallowing the whole boxing industry.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Caleb Plant vs David Benavidez
Post by: mirakal on December 06, 2022, 04:33:46 PM
David Benavidez should know that after Caleb Plant, he will have to wait for at least 1-2 year before he can have that chance especially now that Canelo is still on the process of healing his wrist. So, a tune-up fight will likely happen as the first move that Canelo and his camp would take after the healing period before Canelo will take a much heavier boxers like David or Bivol. Who knows who will have the first dance because Bivol's priority is also Artur Beterbiev (if the latter defeats Yarde on the process)

It looks like Bivol is ready to adjust and go down in the weight division just to make the rematch come true.  So I think right after Canelo recovered, he might be fighting Bivol next.  So probably if ever Davide Benavidez wins this upcoming match against Caleb Plant, he needs to wait longer for a Canelo match.  He wouldn't be the priority of Canelo in its next fight since negotiation between Bivol and Canelo is still going on  and Bivol is ready to take the adjustment so there is a better chance of deal closure.

This is what happens when the champion is a superstar. David Benavidez is the interim WBC champion which means he is already the mandatory of Canelo. But corruption is common in boxing especially in the sanctioning bodies WBA and WBC. Now Benavidez is facing another mandatory which doesn't make any sense. If the rules will be straight-forward, Canelo will be stripped of his WBC belt if he won't face the Benavidez-Plant winner next. But I doubt the WBC will strip him. Don Mauricio Sulaiman is salivating for his percentage in the next Canelo fight.

Bivol will be eager to drop down in weight and face Canelo because he isn't getting Beterbiev who's facing Yarde next. Biggest money available while a chance to become a 2 division champion and an undisputed in just a single fight.

That's the other dark side of this industry, everything has business with the boxers, even the sanctioning bodies are also taking part of the negotiations under the table so that their favorites can maintain their status so that it can produce more milk for them. You certainly got a point, it's expected that the winner of this fight will get to fight the undisputed champion which is Canelo Alvarez. Although, let's already expect what would be the outcome because I don't see that the winner of this fight will have their chance because Canelo wouldn't take any fights if not Bivol.

That's how boxing really turns into, politics, corruptions, under the table negotiation.

And that's why it's truly good to hear when someone derails their plan, like when Bivol defeated Canelo. Maybe if Canelo win, fight GGG and maybe go for another weight class which is the CW and cherry pick the opponent in which the WBC doesn't have a problem with. They will let Canelo go to the champion directly.

But then they don't want to impose Canelo's mandatory and will probably face Bivol again.

So we will have to wait for the outcome of this fight and hopefully if Benavidez win they Canelo can't deny David a fight.

Fortunately, if that is truly the case, their plan was indeed derailed because they didn't expected that Bivol will be one of their biggest problem as he did pulled an upset to their favorite boxer as they are just underestimating him. Nobody believed that Bivol can truly defend his title successfully, even me I admit, I was skeptical about Bivol as he is not that known.

Speaking of CW, Canelo Alvarez would have faced his most embarrassing moment of his career because if he was lost to a natural LHW boxer, then Ilunga Makabu of the CW will easily destroy him and might give him his first poster sleeping on the canvass.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Caleb Plant vs David Benavidez
Post by: Baofeng on December 06, 2022, 11:40:35 PM
^^ Probably that's one reason why they suddenly back out of that plan CW conquest, even if this is going to be in catch weight, Canelo will give a lot of disadvantage to the natural bigger guy.

So he went on LHW, but then faces Bivol, who only few given a chance to win against Canelo, so another missteps for him and his crew.

Nevertheless, he defeated an old and aging GGG and doesn't want to face a young Caleb Plant yet.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Caleb Plant vs David Benavidez
Post by: aioc on December 06, 2022, 11:53:25 PM


Benavidez wanted to go and fight Canelo Alvarez, but the camp of Canelo says no, as they want him to proved himself. So maybe if he beat Plant worst than Canelo beat him, he might gain some respect and could potentially face Alvarez in the future.



If Benavidez punish and knock out Plant as he always does to all his opponent, there will be a clamor for Canelo to fight Benavidez and Canelo cannot ignore that, I figure that Benavidez is an even more dangerous fight for Canelo than Bivol, this is a very important fight for both fighters because they are both top contenders in the division, they will be a step away from another title shot, Benavidez is so powerful and dominant I don't think Caleb can catch up, I love it when he does that shoe shine punches or rapid fire punches, it takes out a lot from his opponent.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Caleb Plant vs David Benavidez
Post by: Kemarit on December 07, 2022, 11:30:42 AM
David Benavidez should know that after Caleb Plant, he will have to wait for at least 1-2 year before he can have that chance especially now that Canelo is still on the process of healing his wrist. So, a tune-up fight will likely happen as the first move that Canelo and his camp would take after the healing period before Canelo will take a much heavier boxers like David or Bivol. Who knows who will have the first dance because Bivol's priority is also Artur Beterbiev (if the latter defeats Yarde on the process)

It looks like Bivol is ready to adjust and go down in the weight division just to make the rematch come true.  So I think right after Canelo recovered, he might be fighting Bivol next.  So probably if ever Davide Benavidez wins this upcoming match against Caleb Plant, he needs to wait longer for a Canelo match.  He wouldn't be the priority of Canelo in its next fight since negotiation between Bivol and Canelo is still going on  and Bivol is ready to take the adjustment so there is a better chance of deal closure.

This is what happens when the champion is a superstar. David Benavidez is the interim WBC champion which means he is already the mandatory of Canelo. But corruption is common in boxing especially in the sanctioning bodies WBA and WBC. Now Benavidez is facing another mandatory which doesn't make any sense. If the rules will be straight-forward, Canelo will be stripped of his WBC belt if he won't face the Benavidez-Plant winner next. But I doubt the WBC will strip him. Don Mauricio Sulaiman is salivating for his percentage in the next Canelo fight.

Bivol will be eager to drop down in weight and face Canelo because he isn't getting Beterbiev who's facing Yarde next. Biggest money available while a chance to become a 2 division champion and an undisputed in just a single fight.

That's the other dark side of this industry, everything has business with the boxers, even the sanctioning bodies are also taking part of the negotiations under the table so that their favorites can maintain their status so that it can produce more milk for them. You certainly got a point, it's expected that the winner of this fight will get to fight the undisputed champion which is Canelo Alvarez. Although, let's already expect what would be the outcome because I don't see that the winner of this fight will have their chance because Canelo wouldn't take any fights if not Bivol.

That's how boxing really turns into, politics, corruptions, under the table negotiation.

And that's why it's truly good to hear when someone derails their plan, like when Bivol defeated Canelo. Maybe if Canelo win, fight GGG and maybe go for another weight class which is the CW and cherry pick the opponent in which the WBC doesn't have a problem with. They will let Canelo go to the champion directly.

But then they don't want to impose Canelo's mandatory and will probably face Bivol again.

So we will have to wait for the outcome of this fight and hopefully if Benavidez win they Canelo can't deny David a fight.

Fortunately, if that is truly the case, their plan was indeed derailed because they didn't expected that Bivol will be one of their biggest problem as he did pulled an upset to their favorite boxer as they are just underestimating him. Nobody believed that Bivol can truly defend his title successfully, even me I admit, I was skeptical about Bivol as he is not that known.

Speaking of CW, Canelo Alvarez would have faced his most embarrassing moment of his career because if he was lost to a natural LHW boxer, then Ilunga Makabu of the CW will easily destroy him and might give him his first poster sleeping on the canvass.

And it's funny how Bivol though talk about his upset of Canelo and then derailing all the plans of Eddie Hearn in front of the crowd, that's hilarious and probably Hearn is shock as well with the outcome of the fight.

It's really possible that Makabu will destroy Canelo when they supposed to meet up at CW division. Makabu is huge and is a monster and probably Canelo will not dare touch the CW because that's more than he can chew and yes, probably he will sleep on the canvass if a natural CW touches his chin with power.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Caleb Plant vs David Benavidez
Post by: mirakal on December 08, 2022, 07:10:18 PM
David Benavidez should know that after Caleb Plant, he will have to wait for at least 1-2 year before he can have that chance especially now that Canelo is still on the process of healing his wrist. So, a tune-up fight will likely happen as the first move that Canelo and his camp would take after the healing period before Canelo will take a much heavier boxers like David or Bivol. Who knows who will have the first dance because Bivol's priority is also Artur Beterbiev (if the latter defeats Yarde on the process)

It looks like Bivol is ready to adjust and go down in the weight division just to make the rematch come true.  So I think right after Canelo recovered, he might be fighting Bivol next.  So probably if ever Davide Benavidez wins this upcoming match against Caleb Plant, he needs to wait longer for a Canelo match.  He wouldn't be the priority of Canelo in its next fight since negotiation between Bivol and Canelo is still going on  and Bivol is ready to take the adjustment so there is a better chance of deal closure.

This is what happens when the champion is a superstar. David Benavidez is the interim WBC champion which means he is already the mandatory of Canelo. But corruption is common in boxing especially in the sanctioning bodies WBA and WBC. Now Benavidez is facing another mandatory which doesn't make any sense. If the rules will be straight-forward, Canelo will be stripped of his WBC belt if he won't face the Benavidez-Plant winner next. But I doubt the WBC will strip him. Don Mauricio Sulaiman is salivating for his percentage in the next Canelo fight.

Bivol will be eager to drop down in weight and face Canelo because he isn't getting Beterbiev who's facing Yarde next. Biggest money available while a chance to become a 2 division champion and an undisputed in just a single fight.

That's the other dark side of this industry, everything has business with the boxers, even the sanctioning bodies are also taking part of the negotiations under the table so that their favorites can maintain their status so that it can produce more milk for them. You certainly got a point, it's expected that the winner of this fight will get to fight the undisputed champion which is Canelo Alvarez. Although, let's already expect what would be the outcome because I don't see that the winner of this fight will have their chance because Canelo wouldn't take any fights if not Bivol.

That's how boxing really turns into, politics, corruptions, under the table negotiation.

And that's why it's truly good to hear when someone derails their plan, like when Bivol defeated Canelo. Maybe if Canelo win, fight GGG and maybe go for another weight class which is the CW and cherry pick the opponent in which the WBC doesn't have a problem with. They will let Canelo go to the champion directly.

But then they don't want to impose Canelo's mandatory and will probably face Bivol again.

So we will have to wait for the outcome of this fight and hopefully if Benavidez win they Canelo can't deny David a fight.

Fortunately, if that is truly the case, their plan was indeed derailed because they didn't expected that Bivol will be one of their biggest problem as he did pulled an upset to their favorite boxer as they are just underestimating him. Nobody believed that Bivol can truly defend his title successfully, even me I admit, I was skeptical about Bivol as he is not that known.

Speaking of CW, Canelo Alvarez would have faced his most embarrassing moment of his career because if he was lost to a natural LHW boxer, then Ilunga Makabu of the CW will easily destroy him and might give him his first poster sleeping on the canvass.

And it's funny how Bivol though talk about his upset of Canelo and then derailing all the plans of Eddie Hearn in front of the crowd, that's hilarious and probably Hearn is shock as well with the outcome of the fight.

It's really possible that Makabu will destroy Canelo when they supposed to meet up at CW division. Makabu is huge and is a monster and probably Canelo will not dare touch the CW because that's more than he can chew and yes, probably he will sleep on the canvass if a natural CW touches his chin with power.

What can they do about it? hehe. Dmitry Bivol have his every right to boast about it because they aren't expecting that he will be the one to derail their plans. I bet they are all viewing and having the same thought that Artur Beterbiev will be their only problem but they forget another Russian boxer who is also a natural in this division. Hence, Canelo Alvarez was defeated for the 2nd time of his career and nobody saw it coming.

It's really possible that Makabu will destroy Canelo when they supposed to meet up at CW division. Makabu is huge and is a monster and probably Canelo will not dare touch the CW because that's more than he can chew and yes, probably he will sleep on the canvass if a natural CW touches his chin with power.

It is indeed possible if Canelo and Hearn decided to try the cruiserweight, that was the first option they had and I'm surprised to know at that time when I saw that Canelo will be facing a russian boxer in LHW and not Makabut at CW. Canelo will look definitely look like a novice in that division compared to the natural CW like Makabu, he will be toyed, I have no doubt about that.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Caleb Plant vs David Benavidez
Post by: Yaunfitda on December 08, 2022, 08:34:36 PM


Benavidez wanted to go and fight Canelo Alvarez, but the camp of Canelo says no, as they want him to proved himself. So maybe if he beat Plant worst than Canelo beat him, he might gain some respect and could potentially face Alvarez in the future.



If Benavidez punish and knock out Plant as he always does to all his opponent, there will be a clamor for Canelo to fight Benavidez and Canelo cannot ignore that, I figure that Benavidez is an even more dangerous fight for Canelo than Bivol, this is a very important fight for both fighters because they are both top contenders in the division, they will be a step away from another title shot, Benavidez is so powerful and dominant I don't think Caleb can catch up, I love it when he does that shoe shine punches or rapid fire punches, it takes out a lot from his opponent.
Right, but I do think that Canelo will take care of Bivol first, that's probably his primary target for next year after he healed his hand injuries.

On the other hand, Caleb should not look forward for a Canelo fight, he has his hands full against Caleb Plant. Just focus on this task first and let his fist do the talking. If he wins then good, start talking a potential fight with Canelo and then see how it goes.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Caleb Plant vs David Benavidez
Post by: Jawhead999 on December 09, 2022, 02:33:00 AM
Right, but I do think that Canelo will take care of Bivol first, that's probably his primary target for next year after he healed his hand injuries.

On the other hand,   should not look forward for a Canelo fight, he has his hands full against Caleb Plant. Just focus on this task first and let his fist do the talking. If he wins then good, start talking a potential fight with Canelo and then see how it goes.
Both of them want to fight with Canelo, maybe each of them want to prove which want is deserved to fight with Canelo. Since Benavidez haven't fought Canelo, it will be interesting to see what the result would be. But Caleb Plant have fought with Canelo before, the result is really bad, Canelo won via TKO in the round 11. Plant can't resist Canelo's punch anymore at that's round and he just become punching bag, so I don't see any interest to see a rematch between Plant vs Canelo.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Caleb Plant vs David Benavidez
Post by: Questat on December 09, 2022, 03:34:37 AM
Right, but I do think that Canelo will take care of Bivol first, that's probably his primary target for next year after he healed his hand injuries.

On the other hand,   should not look forward for a Canelo fight, he has his hands full against Caleb Plant. Just focus on this task first and let his fist do the talking. If he wins then good, start talking a potential fight with Canelo and then see how it goes.
Both of them want to fight with Canelo, maybe each of them want to prove which want is deserved to fight with Canelo. Since Benavidez haven't fought Canelo, it will be interesting to see what the result would be. But Caleb Plant have fought with Canelo before, the result is really bad, Canelo won via TKO in the round 11. Plant can't resist Canelo's punch anymore at that's round and he just become punching bag, so I don't see any interest to see a rematch between Plant vs Canelo.

So David Benavidez has to win this fight for us to at least get excited about a possible fight with Canelo because a Canelo vs Plant 2 will never excite the fans. It's better if Canelo will have a rematch with Bivol if that would happen, so the outcome of this fight is very interesting, with that said, I'll be backing David Benavidez to win.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Caleb Plant vs David Benavidez
Post by: Kemarit on December 09, 2022, 03:44:18 AM
Right, but I do think that Canelo will take care of Bivol first, that's probably his primary target for next year after he healed his hand injuries.

On the other hand,   should not look forward for a Canelo fight, he has his hands full against Caleb Plant. Just focus on this task first and let his fist do the talking. If he wins then good, start talking a potential fight with Canelo and then see how it goes.
Both of them want to fight with Canelo, maybe each of them want to prove which want is deserved to fight with Canelo. Since Benavidez haven't fought Canelo, it will be interesting to see what the result would be. But Caleb Plant have fought with Canelo before, the result is really bad, Canelo won via TKO in the round 11. Plant can't resist Canelo's punch anymore at that's round and he just become punching bag, so I don't see any interest to see a rematch between Plant vs Canelo.

So David Benavidez has to win this fight for us to at least get excited about a possible fight with Canelo because a Canelo vs Plant 2 will never excite the fans. It's better if Canelo will have a rematch with Bivol if that would happen, so the outcome of this fight is very interesting, with that said, I'll be backing David Benavidez to win.

For us we want fresh face against Canelo, but if Plant win then we don't have any choice and so is Canelo for a second fight with Plant since he is the mandatory again.

So all of us, or at majority here wanted a Benavidez win so that we will see a young fighter up against Canelo and we will see if the power of David will finally crack the chin of Canelo (which I doubt).

But it could be a good sell for the fans .


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Caleb Plant vs David Benavidez
Post by: Sanitough on December 09, 2022, 06:12:44 AM
Right, but I do think that Canelo will take care of Bivol first, that's probably his primary target for next year after he healed his hand injuries.

On the other hand,   should not look forward for a Canelo fight, he has his hands full against Caleb Plant. Just focus on this task first and let his fist do the talking. If he wins then good, start talking a potential fight with Canelo and then see how it goes.
Both of them want to fight with Canelo, maybe each of them want to prove which want is deserved to fight with Canelo. Since Benavidez haven't fought Canelo, it will be interesting to see what the result would be. But Caleb Plant have fought with Canelo before, the result is really bad, Canelo won via TKO in the round 11. Plant can't resist Canelo's punch anymore at that's round and he just become punching bag, so I don't see any interest to see a rematch between Plant vs Canelo.

So David Benavidez has to win this fight for us to at least get excited about a possible fight with Canelo because a Canelo vs Plant 2 will never excite the fans. It's better if Canelo will have a rematch with Bivol if that would happen, so the outcome of this fight is very interesting, with that said, I'll be backing David Benavidez to win.

For us we want fresh face against Canelo, but if Plant win then we don't have any choice and so is Canelo for a second fight with Plant since he is the mandatory again.

So all of us, or at majority here wanted a Benavidez win so that we will see a young fighter up against Canelo and we will see if the power of David will finally crack the chin of Canelo (which I doubt).

But it could be a good sell for the fans .

68.8% voted for  David Benavidez to win by KO/TKO, so that's really something, we believe that Plant will lose this fight. I was surprised that only few voted for  David Benavidez to win via decision considering how tough plant is against Canelo, he might survive this 12 rounds and lose, that's my prediction.

As a fan, I like to see a new face against Canelo, that would be a little unpredictable although I still think Canelo will dominate.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Caleb Plant vs David Benavidez
Post by: btc_angela on December 09, 2022, 11:22:33 AM
Right, but I do think that Canelo will take care of Bivol first, that's probably his primary target for next year after he healed his hand injuries.

On the other hand,   should not look forward for a Canelo fight, he has his hands full against Caleb Plant. Just focus on this task first and let his fist do the talking. If he wins then good, start talking a potential fight with Canelo and then see how it goes.
Both of them want to fight with Canelo, maybe each of them want to prove which want is deserved to fight with Canelo. Since Benavidez haven't fought Canelo, it will be interesting to see what the result would be. But Caleb Plant have fought with Canelo before, the result is really bad, Canelo won via TKO in the round 11. Plant can't resist Canelo's punch anymore at that's round and he just become punching bag, so I don't see any interest to see a rematch between Plant vs Canelo.

So David Benavidez has to win this fight for us to at least get excited about a possible fight with Canelo because a Canelo vs Plant 2 will never excite the fans. It's better if Canelo will have a rematch with Bivol if that would happen, so the outcome of this fight is very interesting, with that said, I'll be backing David Benavidez to win.

For us we want fresh face against Canelo, but if Plant win then we don't have any choice and so is Canelo for a second fight with Plant since he is the mandatory again.

So all of us, or at majority here wanted a Benavidez win so that we will see a young fighter up against Canelo and we will see if the power of David will finally crack the chin of Canelo (which I doubt).

But it could be a good sell for the fans .

68.8% voted for  David Benavidez to win by KO/TKO, so that's really something, we believe that Plant will lose this fight. I was surprised that only few voted for  David Benavidez to win via decision considering how tough plant is against Canelo, he might survive this 12 rounds and lose, that's my prediction.

As a fan, I like to see a new face against Canelo, that would be a little unpredictable although I still think Canelo will dominate.

Right, we need new face to test how Canelo else, and we want that to be Benavidez because he has been telling the media that he can beat Canelo or at least that's why his father is trying to say to us, but Canelo is just dismissing Benavidez.

It's probably members here think that Benavidez scary power will hit Caleb and that he will go down hard, probably just like what he did against Dirrell in their last fight.

Majority though of boxing enthusiast here are correct, maybe except the last fight of Chocolatito vs Estrada wherein we thought that Gonzalez will win. Anyhow, I still think that Benavidez will win this fight.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Caleb Plant vs David Benavidez
Post by: stadus on December 09, 2022, 08:05:29 PM
Right, but I do think that Canelo will take care of Bivol first, that's probably his primary target for next year after he healed his hand injuries.

On the other hand,   should not look forward for a Canelo fight, he has his hands full against Caleb Plant. Just focus on this task first and let his fist do the talking. If he wins then good, start talking a potential fight with Canelo and then see how it goes.
Both of them want to fight with Canelo, maybe each of them want to prove which want is deserved to fight with Canelo. Since Benavidez haven't fought Canelo, it will be interesting to see what the result would be. But Caleb Plant have fought with Canelo before, the result is really bad, Canelo won via TKO in the round 11. Plant can't resist Canelo's punch anymore at that's round and he just become punching bag, so I don't see any interest to see a rematch between Plant vs Canelo.

So David Benavidez has to win this fight for us to at least get excited about a possible fight with Canelo because a Canelo vs Plant 2 will never excite the fans. It's better if Canelo will have a rematch with Bivol if that would happen, so the outcome of this fight is very interesting, with that said, I'll be backing David Benavidez to win.

Yes, I strongly agree with that! Canelo already closed that specific chapter with Plant, I know that the latter wanted to have his second chance to somehow prove something towards Canelo but I certainly think that he cannot really make any difference if there would be a rematch. Apart from that, David Benavidez is also a rising star which will eventually defeat him in this fight. Sad to say that Plant will just be a stepping stone for David to get this dance with Canelo.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Caleb Plant vs David Benavidez
Post by: Baofeng on December 09, 2022, 10:13:21 PM
Right, but I do think that Canelo will take care of Bivol first, that's probably his primary target for next year after he healed his hand injuries.

On the other hand,   should not look forward for a Canelo fight, he has his hands full against Caleb Plant. Just focus on this task first and let his fist do the talking. If he wins then good, start talking a potential fight with Canelo and then see how it goes.
Both of them want to fight with Canelo, maybe each of them want to prove which want is deserved to fight with Canelo. Since Benavidez haven't fought Canelo, it will be interesting to see what the result would be. But Caleb Plant have fought with Canelo before, the result is really bad, Canelo won via TKO in the round 11. Plant can't resist Canelo's punch anymore at that's round and he just become punching bag, so I don't see any interest to see a rematch between Plant vs Canelo.

So David Benavidez has to win this fight for us to at least get excited about a possible fight with Canelo because a Canelo vs Plant 2 will never excite the fans. It's better if Canelo will have a rematch with Bivol if that would happen, so the outcome of this fight is very interesting, with that said, I'll be backing David Benavidez to win.

Yes, I strongly agree with that! Canelo already closed that specific chapter with Plant, I know that the latter wanted to have his second chance to somehow prove something towards Canelo but I certainly think that he cannot really make any difference if there would be a rematch. Apart from that, David Benavidez is also a rising star which will eventually defeat him in this fight. Sad to say that Plant will just be a stepping stone for David to get this dance with Canelo.

And probably the same result as well if ever Canelo will face Plant again. So nothing for us fans to look at that fight as Canelo has the numbers and I doubt that Caleb will adjust he will be the same fighter. And with that we want to see Benavidez to take the champion Canelo. We will see and if I'm not mistaken, a young fighter that I think has more punching power than Canelo.

And that's how it is, boxers will have to look for someone to be their stepping stone, whether it's the champion or another contender to propel them to the next level.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Caleb Plant vs David Benavidez
Post by: lionheart78 on December 09, 2022, 10:24:19 PM
So David Benavidez has to win this fight for us to at least get excited about a possible fight with Canelo because a Canelo vs Plant 2 will never excite the fans. It's better if Canelo will have a rematch with Bivol if that would happen, so the outcome of this fight is very interesting, with that said, I'll be backing David Benavidez to win.

I think Benavidez vs Canelo will be more interesting than Canelo vs Bivol because both fighters are in the same division so no one needs to adjust.  Aside from that, I believe the Benavidez-Canelo fight is long due.  It is also a great test for Benavidez and I believe has stayed in the background for too long and it is time for him to have a chance for the limelight and challenge the top of his Division.  His record is pretty impressive and I think it is also a good fight for Canelo Alvarez.  Besides, I also think that the fight will cater to lots of viewers and will have a huge profit.


And probably the same result as well if ever Canelo will face Plant again. So nothing for us fans to look at that fight as Canelo has the numbers and I doubt that Caleb will adjust he will be the same fighter. And with that we want to see Benavidez to take the champion Canelo. We will see and if I'm not mistaken, a young fighter that I think has more punching power than Canelo.

And that's how it is, boxers will have to look for someone to be their stepping stone, whether it's the champion or another contender to propel them to the next level.

Benavidez needs to beat Plant first so this one will be Benavidez's stepping stone to having a chance to fight a Canelo.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Caleb Plant vs David Benavidez
Post by: stadus on December 10, 2022, 07:53:09 PM
Right, but I do think that Canelo will take care of Bivol first, that's probably his primary target for next year after he healed his hand injuries.

On the other hand,   should not look forward for a Canelo fight, he has his hands full against Caleb Plant. Just focus on this task first and let his fist do the talking. If he wins then good, start talking a potential fight with Canelo and then see how it goes.
Both of them want to fight with Canelo, maybe each of them want to prove which want is deserved to fight with Canelo. Since Benavidez haven't fought Canelo, it will be interesting to see what the result would be. But Caleb Plant have fought with Canelo before, the result is really bad, Canelo won via TKO in the round 11. Plant can't resist Canelo's punch anymore at that's round and he just become punching bag, so I don't see any interest to see a rematch between Plant vs Canelo.

So David Benavidez has to win this fight for us to at least get excited about a possible fight with Canelo because a Canelo vs Plant 2 will never excite the fans. It's better if Canelo will have a rematch with Bivol if that would happen, so the outcome of this fight is very interesting, with that said, I'll be backing David Benavidez to win.

Yes, I strongly agree with that! Canelo already closed that specific chapter with Plant, I know that the latter wanted to have his second chance to somehow prove something towards Canelo but I certainly think that he cannot really make any difference if there would be a rematch. Apart from that, David Benavidez is also a rising star which will eventually defeat him in this fight. Sad to say that Plant will just be a stepping stone for David to get this dance with Canelo.

And probably the same result as well if ever Canelo will face Plant again. So nothing for us fans to look at that fight as Canelo has the numbers and I doubt that Caleb will adjust he will be the same fighter. And with that we want to see Benavidez to take the champion Canelo. We will see and if I'm not mistaken, a young fighter that I think has more punching power than Canelo.

And that's how it is, boxers will have to look for someone to be their stepping stone, whether it's the champion or another contender to propel them to the next level.

That will be the case if Plant will ever succeed on this fight and pursue a rematch next, but that case is very highly unlikely considering David Benavidez's skill is much more superior than Plant. I have no any doubts that he will be just a stepping stone for David to get his most awaited fight with Canelo Alvarez as he is arguably got the needed skills and speed to give Canelo's 3rd defeat. That will be an interesting fight that we should watch out in the future.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Caleb Plant vs David Benavidez
Post by: ajochems on December 10, 2022, 11:25:11 PM
The poool results was favoured the David Benavidez for the KO matches against the plant. But some post favour the plan, plant also had a good back matches experience. They had many winnings record in the past and David is the growing player. So it’s better to look the each people plus and minus before the matches. David is the new player with some energetic games in the recent games. Energetic player will win the game all the time.No one will worry for the old game instead of new win.So the game will make a unique update from this game. Waiting from long to check this game with some excitement of the match.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Caleb Plant vs David Benavidez
Post by: Baofeng on December 10, 2022, 11:38:12 PM
The poool results was favoured the David Benavidez for the KO matches against the plant. But some post favour the plan, plant also had a good back matches experience. They had many winnings record in the past and David is the growing player.So it’s better to look the each people plus and minus before the matches. David is the new player with some energetic games.

And it just shows that there this community, specially boxing fans, and I would say that they really knows their boxing because they are favoring David Benavidez here because the kid has power and could really beat Caleb Plant in their fight. They are not just randomly voting, they have their reasons to vote on who they think is going to win in this fight.

So obviously they have weight all the tangibles and intangibles, the plus and minus as you have said.

And for sure, they are going to bet on it as well to make some money base on how they have analyzed this fight.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Caleb Plant vs David Benavidez
Post by: Baofeng on December 15, 2022, 03:17:40 PM
Just some update and it doesn't sounds good, according to Benavidez, Team Plant is demanding too much for this fight that it seems that they are waiting for Team Benavidez to say no,

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I feel like he’s waiting for us to say no so that he could have his way out of the fight. We said yes to everything. I just hope shows up and fights David.”

As previously reported by BoxingScene.com, among the requests from Team Plant was the call for the fight to take place in a 22’ ring. The size is two feet bigger than the standard ring size for a fight in Nevada, in front of whose commission TGB Promotions’ Tom Brown had to place the request to be approved. TGB—the main promoter for Premier Boxing Champions (PBC) currently has a hold for six dates at MGM Grand in Las Vegas, including March 18 which was the specified date at the time of the filed request.

Team Benavidez was indifferent to the demand, though all but signing a blank check—while also offering an alternative plan.

https://www.boxingscene.com/team-benavidez-everything-plant-asked-we-kept-giving-just-hope-he-shows-up-fights-david--171169

So in essence, Plant may have said yes, but then put a lot of demand including the ring size and the venue and the entities that will be involved.

Let's see and hopefully everything can be settle down so that we can watch this big fight next year.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Caleb Plant vs David Benavidez
Post by: btc_angela on December 15, 2022, 03:21:24 PM
^^ And that is very tricky indeed, if David Benavidez says no, then he will be blame for everything, for the fight not pushing that's for sure. But then again, if they gave in to the demand of Plant, then it's a big psychological win for Team Caleb Plant and will definitely take control of the fight or even the lion share of the purse.

Very difficult now on the part of Benavidez, but I'm thinking that they will make a counter offer as per the article. That's how negotiation should be, other party should compromise as well and not just one side process.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Caleb Plant vs David Benavidez
Post by: LUCKMCFLY on December 16, 2022, 08:42:21 PM
David Benavidez should know that after Caleb Plant, he will have to wait for at least 1-2 year before he can have that chance especially now that Canelo is still on the process of healing his wrist. So, a tune-up fight will likely happen as the first move that Canelo and his camp would take after the healing period before Canelo will take a much heavier boxers like David or Bivol. Who knows who will have the first dance because Bivol's priority is also Artur Beterbiev (if the latter defeats Yarde on the process)

It looks like Bivol is ready to adjust and go down in the weight division just to make the rematch come true.  So I think right after Canelo recovered, he might be fighting Bivol next.  So probably if ever Davide Benavidez wins this upcoming match against Caleb Plant, he needs to wait longer for a Canelo match.  He wouldn't be the priority of Canelo in its next fight since negotiation between Bivol and Canelo is still going on  and Bivol is ready to take the adjustment so there is a better chance of deal closure.

This is what happens when the champion is a superstar. David Benavidez is the interim WBC champion which means he is already the mandatory of Canelo. But corruption is common in boxing especially in the sanctioning bodies WBA and WBC. Now Benavidez is facing another mandatory which doesn't make any sense. If the rules will be straight-forward, Canelo will be stripped of his WBC belt if he won't face the Benavidez-Plant winner next. But I doubt the WBC will strip him. Don Mauricio Sulaiman is salivating for his percentage in the next Canelo fight.

Bivol will be eager to drop down in weight and face Canelo because he isn't getting Beterbiev who's facing Yarde next. Biggest money available while a chance to become a 2 division champion and an undisputed in just a single fight.

That's the other dark side of this industry, everything has business with the boxers, even the sanctioning bodies are also taking part of the negotiations under the table so that their favorites can maintain their status so that it can produce more milk for them. You certainly got a point, it's expected that the winner of this fight will get to fight the undisputed champion which is Canelo Alvarez. Although, let's already expect what would be the outcome because I don't see that the winner of this fight will have their chance because Canelo wouldn't take any fights if not Bivol.

Well yes, everything is painted there, in the boxing industry, everyone who is here wins, from the executive directors above, to anyone else who is helping the event take place, well and not to mention the isms boxers who are constantly doing things to attract attention so that bettors pay attention to them, I believe that the boxing industry is one of the most fruitful business models and that makes everyone earn a lot of money with just 1 event, those who take advantage of the most are able to almost ensure that life with what goes well for them, this cannot be denied, the money and the business models are already made.


David Benavidez will end Caleb Plant’s career says Jose Sr

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By Sean Jones: Jose Benavidez Sr predicts that his son David Benavidez will end Caleb ‘Sweethands’ Plant’s career when they fight in early March in their WBC super middleweight title eliminator bout in Las Vegas.

Jose Sr is super excited about his son, former two-time WBC 168-lb champion Benavidez (26-0, 23 KOs), finally getting the opportunity to beat the living daylights out of  Plant (22-1, 13 KOs) to finally shut him up.

The idea behind the World Boxing Council-ordered Benavidez vs. Plant 168-lb title eliminator is the winner is supposed to get a title shot against undisputed champion Canelo Alvarez.

That said, Jose Sr. says he doesn’t see that fight happening for David because Canelo knows he’ll lose to the younger 25-year-old Benavidez, so that he won’t take the fight. Jose Sr understands Canelo and doesn’t blame him.

Source: https://www.boxingnews24.com/2022/12/david-benavidez-will-end-caleb-plants-career-says-jose-sr/ (https://www.boxingnews24.com/2022/12/david-benavidez-will-end-caleb-plants-career-says-jose-sr/)

All this is heating up and it's getting very good, apparently everyone wants to demonstrate their power.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Caleb Plant vs David Benavidez
Post by: carlisle1 on December 16, 2022, 08:51:35 PM
^^ And that is very tricky indeed, if David Benavidez says no, then he will be blame for everything, for the fight not pushing that's for sure. But then again, if they gave in to the demand of Plant, then it's a big psychological win for Team Caleb Plant and will definitely take control of the fight or even the lion share of the purse.

Very difficult now on the part of Benavidez, but I'm thinking that they will make a counter offer as per the article. That's how negotiation should be, other party should compromise as well and not just one side process.

Yeah, Benavidez' camp will negotiate and will provide their counter offer, it's also their right to counter whatever Plant's camp thinks
is good for them, since a two-way negotiations.

Both camps need to adjust and accept or meet in the middle to push this fight, otherwise it would be a biased one and for sure
both camps are after with the money.

Both sides need to have a decent and acceptable share before they will sit and sign the contracts.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Caleb Plant vs David Benavidez
Post by: Baofeng on December 16, 2022, 11:16:22 PM
^^ And that is very tricky indeed, if David Benavidez says no, then he will be blame for everything, for the fight not pushing that's for sure. But then again, if they gave in to the demand of Plant, then it's a big psychological win for Team Caleb Plant and will definitely take control of the fight or even the lion share of the purse.

Very difficult now on the part of Benavidez, but I'm thinking that they will make a counter offer as per the article. That's how negotiation should be, other party should compromise as well and not just one side process.

Well Benavidez can tell the public want really went on the negotiations of the fight didn't happen. Sort of like Crawford telling it all as to who and what transpire behind the meeting with PBC and Al Haymon and set the bar straight as who is to blame about the fight not pushing.

So at least Crawford has put the blue print here. Because before when the fight was cancelled we don't know what happened and who is to blame.

But yeah, hopefully they can sort it out and find a middle ground so that this fight is not only in paper but it could be made so that we will see who is the next fight for Canelo Alvarez and we wanted a young Benavidez vs the legend of Alvarez next.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Caleb Plant vs David Benavidez
Post by: Yaunfitda on December 17, 2022, 06:50:14 AM
^^ And that is very tricky indeed, if David Benavidez says no, then he will be blame for everything, for the fight not pushing that's for sure. But then again, if they gave in to the demand of Plant, then it's a big psychological win for Team Caleb Plant and will definitely take control of the fight or even the lion share of the purse.

Very difficult now on the part of Benavidez, but I'm thinking that they will make a counter offer as per the article. That's how negotiation should be, other party should compromise as well and not just one side process.

Yeah, Benavidez' camp will negotiate and will provide their counter offer, it's also their right to counter whatever Plant's camp thinks
is good for them, since a two-way negotiations.
They will have to negotiate and make counter offer and not allow the camp of Plant to have the control of everything here. Otherwise they will definitely getting the short end of the bargain, not just in terms of money, but the ring and maybe the gloves and it will all point to Caleb having the upper hand.

Both camps need to adjust and accept or meet in the middle to push this fight, otherwise it would be a biased one and for sure
both camps are after with the money.

Both sides need to have a decent and acceptable share before they will sit and sign the contracts.
That's what is it to expected, Benavidez is no push over and for us he has the higher chance of winning this fight. So take everything from the negotiation table to the actual fight itself and show Caleb what Benavidez is capable of.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Caleb Plant vs David Benavidez
Post by: inthelongrun on December 17, 2022, 10:16:39 AM
Reading your comments here raised my eyebrows. So this fight is not yet signed? I thought everything is 100% official. I don't like both fighters but earlier I was leaning towards Plant because of the incident that happened years ago where Jose Benavidez tried to harass Plant while training. I honestly believe Plant could've easily knocked the guy out pretty easily but Jose was accompanied by some people including his brother David, so Plant was put in an odd situation. But I hate Plant for demanding the brand of gloves and even wanting to be announced last when he is actually the challenger since David is the interim champ. I can understand though that Plant wanted a bigger ring size.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Caleb Plant vs David Benavidez
Post by: Jating on December 17, 2022, 10:57:34 AM
Reading your comments here raised my eyebrows. So this fight is not yet signed? I thought everything is 100% official. I don't like both fighters but earlier I was leaning towards Plant because of the incident that happened years ago where Jose Benavidez tried to harass Plant while training. I honestly believe Plant could've easily knocked the guy out pretty easily but Jose was accompanied by some people including his brother David, so Plant was put in an odd situation. But I hate Plant for demanding the brand of gloves and even wanting to be announced last when he is actually the challenger since David is the interim champ. I can understand though that Plant wanted a bigger ring size.

Seems to be that is the case, maybe what Plant did is agreed verbally to the Benavidez camp thru social media. But it's different when they have to go to a negotiation because each party would have to lay down all the demands.

Bigger ring means he can go and circle and try to avoid that power punch of David. Another advantage is that since Benavidez is flat footed, he will have a hard time chasing Caleb. So good strategy from the Plant team to request and have that advantage.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Caleb Plant vs David Benavidez
Post by: Slow death on December 17, 2022, 02:02:10 PM
So far I consider David Benavidez as the favorite to win this fight, Benavez in May beat David Lemieux while Caleb Plant beat Anthony Dirrell by KO in the 9th round, while Benavez beat David Lemieux in the 3rd round, I imagine that the fight will be much more difficult on Benavidez's side because his defense is questionable, Plant will take advantage of that and if the fight goes on for a long time then Plant will have greater advantages to win the fight, and in the in my opinion Plant seems more like the type of fighter who has more resistance in the fight, so the longer the rounds he has the greater chances of winning because the opponent will be weakened

Reading your comments here raised my eyebrows. So this fight is not yet signed?

Caleb ‘Sweethands’ Plant has revealed on his Instagram account that he’s inked his contract to face interim WBC super middleweight champion David Benavidez early next year.

For his part, the 25-year-old Benavidez (26-0, 23 KOs) already announced the fight to the media last weekend that his management has set him up with the Plant (22-1, 13 KOs) fight for “March” of 2023.

This is the fight Benavidez needs to establish hims

source: https://www.boxing247.com/boxing-news/caleb-plant-vs-david-benavidez-in-early-2023/253460

https://www.instagram.com/calebplant/

It seems to me that everything is already set for the fight next year, I only see people talking about March of next year, but I don't understand why they don't mention the day of the fight since it's already December


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Caleb Plant vs David Benavidez
Post by: robelneo on December 17, 2022, 03:33:03 PM


It seems to me that everything is already set for the fight next year, I only see people talking about March of next year, but I don't understand why they don't mention the day of the fight since it's already December

The date of the fight is very important for boxers because they can set the phase of their training so they don't overtrain or undertrain since there is still no date mentioned I doubt they are in heavy training right now, it's likely that they are finalizing details of the fight, both camps can agree to fight with a contract and finalized all the details I think February or March is a good date because both fighters are on holidays and we all know that this is the kind of holidays where athletes gain weights, so they have two or three months of rigid training and peak on their condition.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Caleb Plant vs David Benavidez
Post by: Sanitough on December 17, 2022, 05:32:51 PM
So far I consider David Benavidez as the favorite to win this fight, Benavez in May beat David Lemieux while Caleb Plant beat Anthony Dirrell by KO in the 9th round, while Benavez beat David Lemieux in the 3rd round, I imagine that the fight will be much more difficult on Benavidez's side because his defense is questionable, Plant will take advantage of that and if the fight goes on for a long time then Plant will have greater advantages to win the fight, and in the in my opinion Plant seems more like the type of fighter who has more resistance in the fight, so the longer the rounds he has the greater chances of winning because the opponent will be weakened

Reading your comments here raised my eyebrows. So this fight is not yet signed?

Caleb ‘Sweethands’ Plant has revealed on his Instagram account that he’s inked his contract to face interim WBC super middleweight champion David Benavidez early next year.

For his part, the 25-year-old Benavidez (26-0, 23 KOs) already announced the fight to the media last weekend that his management has set him up with the Plant (22-1, 13 KOs) fight for “March” of 2023.

This is the fight Benavidez needs to establish hims

source: https://www.boxing247.com/boxing-news/caleb-plant-vs-david-benavidez-in-early-2023/253460

https://www.instagram.com/calebplant/

It seems to me that everything is already set for the fight next year, I only see people talking about March of next year, but I don't understand why they don't mention the day of the fight since it's already December

Well, that clears the issue regarding their upcoming fight. It's been revealed already that this fight is already official but I'm leaning on the reasons that they haven't got the right date yet to put the fight. As we all know, organizers will bring the date where they maximize their profit and they are also clearing who will fight in their undercards. Hopefully they can finalize everything before this year ends so that the fans of the respective camps can prepare as well.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Caleb Plant vs David Benavidez
Post by: Kemarit on December 18, 2022, 09:15:04 AM
So far I consider David Benavidez as the favorite to win this fight, Benavez in May beat David Lemieux while Caleb Plant beat Anthony Dirrell by KO in the 9th round, while Benavez beat David Lemieux in the 3rd round, I imagine that the fight will be much more difficult on Benavidez's side because his defense is questionable, Plant will take advantage of that and if the fight goes on for a long time then Plant will have greater advantages to win the fight, and in the in my opinion Plant seems more like the type of fighter who has more resistance in the fight, so the longer the rounds he has the greater chances of winning because the opponent will be weakened

Reading your comments here raised my eyebrows. So this fight is not yet signed?

Caleb ‘Sweethands’ Plant has revealed on his Instagram account that he’s inked his contract to face interim WBC super middleweight champion David Benavidez early next year.

For his part, the 25-year-old Benavidez (26-0, 23 KOs) already announced the fight to the media last weekend that his management has set him up with the Plant (22-1, 13 KOs) fight for “March” of 2023.

This is the fight Benavidez needs to establish hims

source: https://www.boxing247.com/boxing-news/caleb-plant-vs-david-benavidez-in-early-2023/253460

https://www.instagram.com/calebplant/

It seems to me that everything is already set for the fight next year, I only see people talking about March of next year, but I don't understand why they don't mention the day of the fight since it's already December

Well, that clears the issue regarding their upcoming fight. It's been revealed already that this fight is already official but I'm leaning on the reasons that they haven't got the right date yet to put the fight. As we all know, organizers will bring the date where they maximize their profit and they are also clearing who will fight in their undercards. Hopefully they can finalize everything before this year ends so that the fans of the respective camps can prepare as well.

Yeah, there could be dates and venue reserved by the promotions, but probably looking for the best place to held this fight. A venue that has a lot of Mexicans as we all know that David Benavidez is Mexican to maximized his exposure and profit as well.

And we will see once the full fight is announced and the date and the venue itself. But it will not change a bit that David will be the favorite here. And I can't wait till the two goes on a face off as there will be a lot of trash talking between the two.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Caleb Plant vs David Benavidez
Post by: yazher on December 18, 2022, 02:19:08 PM

Well, that clears the issue regarding their upcoming fight. It's been revealed already that this fight is already official but I'm leaning on the reasons that they haven't got the right date yet to put the fight. As we all know, organizers will bring the date where they maximize their profit and they are also clearing who will fight in their undercards. Hopefully they can finalize everything before this year ends so that the fans of the respective camps can prepare as well.

They wanted to stay away from the other big fighters' schedules to secure their maximum profit because they might conflict with the upcoming fights of more popular boxers as well which will gonna decrease their sales. Anyway, this fight seems gonna be one of the anticipated next year and it would be good if they gonna plan for February because there are no big fights there I think it's fine to have a conflict with one or two fights since their fight is at the other place anyway.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Caleb Plant vs David Benavidez
Post by: carlisle1 on December 19, 2022, 10:25:48 AM

Well, that clears the issue regarding their upcoming fight. It's been revealed already that this fight is already official but I'm leaning on the reasons that they haven't got the right date yet to put the fight. As we all know, organizers will bring the date where they maximize their profit and they are also clearing who will fight in their undercards. Hopefully they can finalize everything before this year ends so that the fans of the respective camps can prepare as well.

They wanted to stay away from the other big fighters' schedules to secure their maximum profit because they might conflict with the upcoming fights of more popular boxers as well which will gonna decrease their sales. Anyway, this fight seems gonna be one of the anticipated next year and it would be good if they gonna plan for February because there are no big fights there I think it's fine to have a conflict with one or two fights since their fight is at the other place anyway.

Yes indeed, they just avoiding that to happen as most of the time promoters are after with the money, ticket sales and viewers they all
after that, making the fight away from big fights will give them that confidence.

It's really tough when you will compete other promotions that carry big events that will surely gain fans interest.

We will see updates from them when the fight is nearing to happen, that's for sure.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Caleb Plant vs David Benavidez
Post by: LUCKMCFLY on December 21, 2022, 04:30:09 PM


Benavidez wanted to go and fight Canelo Alvarez, but the camp of Canelo says no, as they want him to proved himself. So maybe if he beat Plant worst than Canelo beat him, he might gain some respect and could potentially face Alvarez in the future.



If Benavidez punish and knock out Plant as he always does to all his opponent, there will be a clamor for Canelo to fight Benavidez and Canelo cannot ignore that, I figure that Benavidez is an even more dangerous fight for Canelo than Bivol, this is a very important fight for both fighters because they are both top contenders in the division, they will be a step away from another title shot, Benavidez is so powerful and dominant I don't think Caleb can catch up, I love it when he does that shoe shine punches or rapid fire punches, it takes out a lot from his opponent.
Right, but I do think that Canelo will take care of Bivol first, that's probably his primary target for next year after he healed his hand injuries.

On the other hand, Caleb should not look forward for a Canelo fight, he has his hands full against Caleb Plant. Just focus on this task first and let his fist do the talking. If he wins then good, start talking a potential fight with Canelo and then see how it goes.

Well, the truth is, I don't see Canelo very well, personally this boxer tries to do a lot of things taking advantage of the social networks, but I think that has helped him a bit, because sometimes I read his tweets and the things he says and I don't know nothing interesting, everything is as if it were seen that a teenager was the one who was writing it, for me Canelo lacks a lot of maturity, and I think that from the way he is going, Bivol will give him another beating, I see the Russian getting stronger, more focused and for me Canelo has been losing his way a bit and all his direction, well regarding the Caleb fight, I would lean more towards him, but I would need to have more information on both, I don't know how both boxers are doing.




I like the rivalry that is generated:

     

Caleb Plant says he could stop David Benavidez


https://i.imgur.com/YinU3wK.png

Quote
By Craig Daly: Caleb ‘Sweethands’ Plant says, “don’t be surprised” if he knocks out David Benavidez when the two fight in the first quarter of next year in a final WBC super middleweight title eliminator on Showtime.

‘Sweethands’ Plant (22-1, 13 KOs) has made improvements with his punching power with the help of new trainer ‘Breadman’ Edwards, and he’s also more elusive on defense than he was.

Plant is as slippery as an eel but can now administer electric-like incredible, shocking power to his opponents. In Plant’s last fight, he knocked Anthony Dirrell out cold in the ninth round last October.

“Yeah, 100%,” said Caleb Plant to Fight Hub TV when asked if the contracts are signed for his WBC super middleweight title eliminator against David Benavidez in the first quarter of 2023.

Source: https://www.boxingnews24.com/2022/12/caleb-plant-says-he-could-stop-david-benavidez/ (https://www.boxingnews24.com/2022/12/caleb-plant-says-he-could-stop-david-benavidez/)


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Caleb Plant vs David Benavidez
Post by: cryptomaniac_xxx on December 21, 2022, 09:06:07 PM
I don't see any improvement on Caleb Plant though, it's really based on who he is going to fight. For the Anthony Dirrell's fight, we see that Dirrell has no respect on Caleb's power and that was his own wrong doing. And so when Caleb throws that left hook, it was perfect and Dirrell just caught it with his face.

Maybe he has a new trainer and probably executing good techniques, but when he goes on another situation that his back is against the wall or has been hit so much, he will go back to his old style.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Caleb Plant vs David Benavidez
Post by: stadus on December 22, 2022, 03:54:51 PM
I don't see any improvement on Caleb Plant though, it's really based on who he is going to fight. For the Anthony Dirrell's fight, we see that Dirrell has no respect on Caleb's power and that was his own wrong doing. And so when Caleb throws that left hook, it was perfect and Dirrell just caught it with his face.

Maybe he has a new trainer and probably executing good techniques, but when he goes on another situation that his back is against the wall or has been hit so much, he will go back to his old style.

And so he will be an open book once again if he goes back to his old style, it's also obvious that David's camp has been studying Plant's new techniques/style that he may have picked from his new mentor and the same to his old ways as well. Also, even if we say that Plant has successfully overcome the young blood, what will be his next step? Face Canelo again where his chances are still the same and will lead him to another dead end. Anyway, that's unlikely because this David got the upper hand because of his exemplary skills that might give Canelo some hard time.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Caleb Plant vs David Benavidez
Post by: Fredomago on December 22, 2022, 08:27:36 PM

I like the rivalry that is generated:

     

Caleb Plant says he could stop David Benavidez


https://i.imgur.com/YinU3wK.png

Quote
By Craig Daly: Caleb ‘Sweethands’ Plant says, “don’t be surprised” if he knocks out David Benavidez when the two fight in the first quarter of next year in a final WBC super middleweight title eliminator on Showtime.

‘Sweethands’ Plant (22-1, 13 KOs) has made improvements with his punching power with the help of new trainer ‘Breadman’ Edwards, and he’s also more elusive on defense than he was.

Plant is as slippery as an eel but can now administer electric-like incredible, shocking power to his opponents. In Plant’s last fight, he knocked Anthony Dirrell out cold in the ninth round last October.

“Yeah, 100%,” said Caleb Plant to Fight Hub TV when asked if the contracts are signed for his WBC super middleweight title eliminator against David Benavidez in the first quarter of 2023.

Source: https://www.boxingnews24.com/2022/12/caleb-plant-says-he-could-stop-david-benavidez/ (https://www.boxingnews24.com/2022/12/caleb-plant-says-he-could-stop-david-benavidez/)


We can only conclude once the fight already done, for now, the statement is more on attracting fans to show interest with their upcoming fight, there's nothing that can be proved by words, even if you ask Benavidez you will hear the same words, or if you will ask him after reading the article maybe he will throw more trash talks to Plant.

I don't see any improvement on Caleb Plant though, it's really based on who he is going to fight. For the Anthony Dirrell's fight, we see that Dirrell has no respect on Caleb's power and that was his own wrong doing. And so when Caleb throws that left hook, it was perfect and Dirrell just caught it with his face.

Maybe he has a new trainer and probably executing good techniques, but when he goes on another situation that his back is against the wall or has been hit so much, he will go back to his old style.

And so he will be an open book once again if he goes back to his old style, it's also obvious that David's camp has been studying Plant's new techniques/style that he may have picked from his new mentor and the same to his old ways as well. Also, even if we say that Plant has successfully overcome the young blood, what will be his next step? Face Canelo again where his chances are still the same and will lead him to another dead end. Anyway, that's unlikely because this David got the upper hand because of his exemplary skills that might give Canelo some hard time.

Agree! If Plant's strategy got compromised and he will go back to his old style then he might be dominated knowing Benavidez is really aggressive and he can bring Plant lots of aggressive punches that may land to Plants critical areas, it's interesting if how both will showcase their talents once they are already inside the same ring.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Caleb Plant vs David Benavidez
Post by: terrific on December 22, 2022, 08:47:23 PM
Are there odds already in the bookies and anyone who had compared them which is the best bookie to have it, if there's any?

I like the rivalry that is generated:

     

Caleb Plant says he could stop David Benavidez


https://i.imgur.com/YinU3wK.png

Quote
By Craig Daly: Caleb ‘Sweethands’ Plant says, “don’t be surprised” if he knocks out David Benavidez when the two fight in the first quarter of next year in a final WBC super middleweight title eliminator on Showtime.

‘Sweethands’ Plant (22-1, 13 KOs) has made improvements with his punching power with the help of new trainer ‘Breadman’ Edwards, and he’s also more elusive on defense than he was.

Plant is as slippery as an eel but can now administer electric-like incredible, shocking power to his opponents. In Plant’s last fight, he knocked Anthony Dirrell out cold in the ninth round last October.

“Yeah, 100%,” said Caleb Plant to Fight Hub TV when asked if the contracts are signed for his WBC super middleweight title eliminator against David Benavidez in the first quarter of 2023.

Source: https://www.boxingnews24.com/2022/12/caleb-plant-says-he-could-stop-david-benavidez/ (https://www.boxingnews24.com/2022/12/caleb-plant-says-he-could-stop-david-benavidez/)

Each of them would say that they can beat the sh!t out of their opponent 100%. It usually is the word that they say as they have to be strong even in their words.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Caleb Plant vs David Benavidez
Post by: Baofeng on December 22, 2022, 09:12:24 PM
Are there odds already in the bookies and anyone who had compared them which is the best bookie to have it, if there's any?

Last time I check, there are no odds yet for this match, but I reckon that Benavidez could be the slight favorite here.

Each of them would say that they can beat the sh!t out of their opponent 100%. It usually is the word that they say as they have to be strong even in their words.

True, but it will be a different story once they got into the ring. Specially if you felt the power of one another. It's either you can take it, or decided not to go toe to toe because you might get knock out of knock down. But we shall see between the two, the animosity is real as they have history way before they made their names.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Caleb Plant vs David Benavidez
Post by: stadus on December 23, 2022, 07:17:31 PM
I don't see any improvement on Caleb Plant though, it's really based on who he is going to fight. For the Anthony Dirrell's fight, we see that Dirrell has no respect on Caleb's power and that was his own wrong doing. And so when Caleb throws that left hook, it was perfect and Dirrell just caught it with his face.

Maybe he has a new trainer and probably executing good techniques, but when he goes on another situation that his back is against the wall or has been hit so much, he will go back to his old style.

And so he will be an open book once again if he goes back to his old style, it's also obvious that David's camp has been studying Plant's new techniques/style that he may have picked from his new mentor and the same to his old ways as well. Also, even if we say that Plant has successfully overcome the young blood, what will be his next step? Face Canelo again where his chances are still the same and will lead him to another dead end. Anyway, that's unlikely because this David got the upper hand because of his exemplary skills that might give Canelo some hard time.

Agree! If Plant's strategy got compromised and he will go back to his old style then he might be dominated knowing Benavidez is really aggressive and he can bring Plant lots of aggressive punches that may land to Plants critical areas, it's interesting if how both will showcase their talents once they are already inside the same ring.

That is expected because it's already given that David will come prepared against Plant, now I'm curious what Plant will do to be in the limelight again. On the other hand, given that David's true aim is Canelo, then it's safe to say that he won't be giving some advantages to Plant that will push him in the corner. Either way, it's up to Plant and David if how will they play their scenarios to have a upper hand until the fight ends.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Caleb Plant vs David Benavidez
Post by: Kemarit on December 23, 2022, 07:26:44 PM
I don't see any improvement on Caleb Plant though, it's really based on who he is going to fight. For the Anthony Dirrell's fight, we see that Dirrell has no respect on Caleb's power and that was his own wrong doing. And so when Caleb throws that left hook, it was perfect and Dirrell just caught it with his face.

Maybe he has a new trainer and probably executing good techniques, but when he goes on another situation that his back is against the wall or has been hit so much, he will go back to his old style.

And so he will be an open book once again if he goes back to his old style, it's also obvious that David's camp has been studying Plant's new techniques/style that he may have picked from his new mentor and the same to his old ways as well. Also, even if we say that Plant has successfully overcome the young blood, what will be his next step? Face Canelo again where his chances are still the same and will lead him to another dead end. Anyway, that's unlikely because this David got the upper hand because of his exemplary skills that might give Canelo some hard time.

Agree! If Plant's strategy got compromised and he will go back to his old style then he might be dominated knowing Benavidez is really aggressive and he can bring Plant lots of aggressive punches that may land to Plants critical areas, it's interesting if how both will showcase their talents once they are already inside the same ring.

That is expected because it's already given that David will come prepared against Plant, now I'm curious what Plant will do to be in the limelight again. On the other hand, given that David's true aim is Canelo, then it's safe to say that he won't be giving some advantages to Plant that will push him in the corner. Either way, it's up to Plant and David if how will they play their scenarios to have a upper hand until the fight ends.

They say he has a new trainer and made some adjustments and take he is not more technically sound. But so is David, with his father at this side and yeah, Canelo is the plan after all and might be seeing Caleb as just another obstacle that they need to get rid, by whatever means, knockout of decision win.

So Canelo could be watching this fight on the sideline if this is going to be made early.

As we have been saying, we love to see Alvarez vs Benavidez next, and let's see if Canelo doesn't want to fight another Mexican or he will be force to if Benavidez wins here.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Caleb Plant vs David Benavidez
Post by: BitcoinPanther on December 23, 2022, 07:28:17 PM
Each of them would say that they can beat the sh!t out of their opponent 100%. It usually is the word that they say as they have to be strong even in their words.

True, but it will be a different story once they got into the ring. Specially if you felt the power of one another. It's either you can take it, or decided not to go toe to toe because you might get knock out of knock down. But we shall see between the two, the animosity is real as they have history way before they made their names.

It is normal for both boxers to say that they will beat their opponent of expect a knock out victory because they wanted to hype their fight.  Giving hopes for their fans and color to the exchange of statement that will trigger interests of the viewers.

Are there odds already in the bookies and anyone who had compared them which is the best bookie to have it, if there's any?

Last time I check, there are no odds yet for this match, but I reckon that Benavidez could be the slight favorite here.


Articles everywhere do states that Benavidez is the favorite and I stumbled on the fanduel odds and they have it as:
https://i.imgur.com/8tri3XV.png


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Caleb Plant vs David Benavidez
Post by: carlisle1 on December 23, 2022, 10:30:47 PM
I don't see any improvement on Caleb Plant though, it's really based on who he is going to fight. For the Anthony Dirrell's fight, we see that Dirrell has no respect on Caleb's power and that was his own wrong doing. And so when Caleb throws that left hook, it was perfect and Dirrell just caught it with his face.

My take here is Benavidez will not be like that, he loves to engage but he's more skillful than Dirrell so even we see him doing that same
aggressions he can manage to take control.

He will adjust with how Caleb will throw his attack and find the way to exposed him and start throwing solid combinations to create a
good opening.

Quote
Maybe he has a new trainer and probably executing good techniques, but when he goes on another situation that his back is against the wall or has been hit so much, he will go back to his old style.

Expect that usual reaction, once he realizes that Benavidez can take him down, he might go back to his usual defensive routine.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Caleb Plant vs David Benavidez
Post by: inthelongrun on December 24, 2022, 10:55:35 AM
Yeah, there could be dates and venue reserved by the promotions, but probably looking for the best place to held this fight. A venue that has a lot of Mexicans as we all know that David Benavidez is Mexican to maximized his exposure and profit as well.

And we will see once the full fight is announced and the date and the venue itself. But it will not change a bit that David will be the favorite here. And I can't wait till the two goes on a face off as there will be a lot of trash talking between the two.

Without a specific date and venue means the deal is not yet 100% sealed. Maybe they're just talking that they already agree with each other or maybe they signed partial contracts which is a good guarantee but not 100%. A venue in Phoenix, Arizona, for instance, the hometown of Benavidez is a good location but I doubt Plant will agree to it. Plant is the one dictating the terms because he knew that Benavidez wanted the big names in the division while he got paid already for his losing effort against Canelo.

Benavidez's power will be too much in this fight but he better stays alert on further Plant demands because it might cost him. A bigger ring means Plant can run and utilize his movements more and if he can also demand the brand of gloves and maybe suggest the list of referees and who knows even the location. A referee that allows Plant to hold and grab is dangerous since Benavidez is not defensively good and he is not used to fighting 12 rounds either which endangers his energy.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Caleb Plant vs David Benavidez
Post by: Baofeng on December 26, 2022, 11:50:28 PM
Yeah, there could be dates and venue reserved by the promotions, but probably looking for the best place to held this fight. A venue that has a lot of Mexicans as we all know that David Benavidez is Mexican to maximized his exposure and profit as well.

And we will see once the full fight is announced and the date and the venue itself. But it will not change a bit that David will be the favorite here. And I can't wait till the two goes on a face off as there will be a lot of trash talking between the two.

Without a specific date and venue means the deal is not yet 100% sealed. Maybe they're just talking that they already agree with each other or maybe they signed partial contracts which is a good guarantee but not 100%. A venue in Phoenix, Arizona, for instance, the hometown of Benavidez is a good location but I doubt Plant will agree to it. Plant is the one dictating the terms because he knew that Benavidez wanted the big names in the division while he got paid already for his losing effort against Canelo.

True, maybe they can settle it in Las Vegas or in New York, the last venue of his devastating knockout of Dirrell and for sure he can bring his fans there and so is David, a lot of Latin American might come and watch his fight but I think NY is pro Puerto Rican but who knows.

Benavidez's power will be too much in this fight but he better stays alert on further Plant demands because it might cost him. A bigger ring means Plant can run and utilize his movements more and if he can also demand the brand of gloves and maybe suggest the list of referees and who knows even the location. A referee that allows Plant to hold and grab is dangerous since Benavidez is not defensively good and he is not used to fighting 12 rounds either which endangers his energy.

Yes, they know that David is flat footed, doesn't have that movement in his feet and so it will be hard for him to catch Plant if Caleb's strategy is to go circle around a bigger ring. And so we are not surprised by that demand of Caleb and his team, they are going to take every advantage they can make here and see how Benavidez will response because he is going to be uncomfortable with a huge ring.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Caleb Plant vs David Benavidez
Post by: Fredomago on December 27, 2022, 06:46:24 AM
I don't see any improvement on Caleb Plant though, it's really based on who he is going to fight. For the Anthony Dirrell's fight, we see that Dirrell has no respect on Caleb's power and that was his own wrong doing. And so when Caleb throws that left hook, it was perfect and Dirrell just caught it with his face.

Maybe he has a new trainer and probably executing good techniques, but when he goes on another situation that his back is against the wall or has been hit so much, he will go back to his old style.

And so he will be an open book once again if he goes back to his old style, it's also obvious that David's camp has been studying Plant's new techniques/style that he may have picked from his new mentor and the same to his old ways as well. Also, even if we say that Plant has successfully overcome the young blood, what will be his next step? Face Canelo again where his chances are still the same and will lead him to another dead end. Anyway, that's unlikely because this David got the upper hand because of his exemplary skills that might give Canelo some hard time.

Agree! If Plant's strategy got compromised and he will go back to his old style then he might be dominated knowing Benavidez is really aggressive and he can bring Plant lots of aggressive punches that may land to Plants critical areas, it's interesting if how both will showcase their talents once they are already inside the same ring.

That is expected because it's already given that David will come prepared against Plant, now I'm curious what Plant will do to be in the limelight again. On the other hand, given that David's true aim is Canelo, then it's safe to say that he won't be giving some advantages to Plant that will push him in the corner. Either way, it's up to Plant and David if how will they play their scenarios to have a upper hand until the fight ends.

For sure, both will bring their best to win the fight. David's intention to call his shot fighting Canelo will have a good enlightenment if he will beat Plant and bring his way to a near chance of making the negotiations to Canelo's camp. On the other hand, Plant also wanted to bring his name back to the top. Beating this hotshot contender will create a good hype and again bring back his winning momentum.

Yeah, there could be dates and venue reserved by the promotions, but probably looking for the best place to held this fight. A venue that has a lot of Mexicans as we all know that David Benavidez is Mexican to maximized his exposure and profit as well.

And we will see once the full fight is announced and the date and the venue itself. But it will not change a bit that David will be the favorite here. And I can't wait till the two goes on a face off as there will be a lot of trash talking between the two.

Without a specific date and venue means the deal is not yet 100% sealed. Maybe they're just talking that they already agree with each other or maybe they signed partial contracts which is a good guarantee but not 100%. A venue in Phoenix, Arizona, for instance, the hometown of Benavidez is a good location but I doubt Plant will agree to it. Plant is the one dictating the terms because he knew that Benavidez wanted the big names in the division while he got paid already for his losing effort against Canelo.

Benavidez's power will be too much in this fight but he better stays alert on further Plant demands because it might cost him. A bigger ring means Plant can run and utilize his movements more and if he can also demand the brand of gloves and maybe suggest the list of referees and who knows even the location. A referee that allows Plant to hold and grab is dangerous since Benavidez is not defensively good and he is not used to fighting 12 rounds either which endangers his energy.

Good thing that you mentioned those conditions. Benavidez needs to be wise since he's really aiming to bring his name up. It's not good for him to give the demands and let Plant's camp to dictate this possible upcoming fight, he also need to check all the condition and even he's really aiming for this fight to take place, he also need to consider all the risk and disadvantage in case he will sign the contract where all the demands of Plant's camp are being written without checking and analysing everything.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Caleb Plant vs David Benavidez
Post by: stadus on December 27, 2022, 08:36:39 PM
That is expected because it's already given that David will come prepared against Plant, now I'm curious what Plant will do to be in the limelight again. On the other hand, given that David's true aim is Canelo, then it's safe to say that he won't be giving some advantages to Plant that will push him in the corner. Either way, it's up to Plant and David if how will they play their scenarios to have a upper hand until the fight ends.

For sure, both will bring their best to win the fight. David's intention to call his shot fighting Canelo will have a good enlightenment if he will beat Plant and bring his way to a near chance of making the negotiations to Canelo's camp. On the other hand, Plant also wanted to bring his name back to the top. Beating this hotshot contender will create a good hype and again bring back his winning momentum.

Yes, that's right! Both Caleb Plant and David Benavidez badly needed this fight to face Canelo Alvarez. One is to prove himself again that he still got what it takes and the latter is looking forward to face the undisputed champion and carve his name in this very industry because he knows that anyone who can beat the current Canelo will surely be remembered. The young blood sure do have the advantage but I'm still expecting that this fight will be packed with explosive punches from both camps and there's no way they will back an inch.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Caleb Plant vs David Benavidez
Post by: btc_angela on December 28, 2022, 10:20:43 AM
That is expected because it's already given that David will come prepared against Plant, now I'm curious what Plant will do to be in the limelight again. On the other hand, given that David's true aim is Canelo, then it's safe to say that he won't be giving some advantages to Plant that will push him in the corner. Either way, it's up to Plant and David if how will they play their scenarios to have a upper hand until the fight ends.

For sure, both will bring their best to win the fight. David's intention to call his shot fighting Canelo will have a good enlightenment if he will beat Plant and bring his way to a near chance of making the negotiations to Canelo's camp. On the other hand, Plant also wanted to bring his name back to the top. Beating this hotshot contender will create a good hype and again bring back his winning momentum.

Yes, that's right! Both Caleb Plant and David Benavidez badly needed this fight to face Canelo Alvarez. One is to prove himself again that he still got what it takes and the latter is looking forward to face the undisputed champion and carve his name in this very industry because he knows that anyone who can beat the current Canelo will surely be remembered. The young blood sure do have the advantage but I'm still expecting that this fight will be packed with explosive punches from both camps and there's no way they will back an inch.

I think it's more on the young boxer here, David Benavidez who wanted to prove himself against Canelo Alverez. Caleb Plant already lost to Alvarez and so it might be the same outcome in the rematch.

So maybe the pressure on David in this fight, because him and his father has been calling Canelo Alvarez but he just dismisses them. But if David will win here, then Canelo can't no longer ignore Benavidez and he will have to fight him next regardless of what has been said in the past. Specially Canelo saying that he doesn't want to fight another Mexican. And it seems boxing fans here wanted to see David Benavidez to win because of the obvious fight challenge against the champion in Canelo. It's very different since David is very young.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Caleb Plant vs David Benavidez
Post by: Yaunfitda on December 28, 2022, 11:12:06 AM
I don't see any improvement on Caleb Plant though, it's really based on who he is going to fight. For the Anthony Dirrell's fight, we see that Dirrell has no respect on Caleb's power and that was his own wrong doing. And so when Caleb throws that left hook, it was perfect and Dirrell just caught it with his face.

Maybe he has a new trainer and probably executing good techniques, but when he goes on another situation that his back is against the wall or has been hit so much, he will go back to his old style.

And so he will be an open book once again if he goes back to his old style, it's also obvious that David's camp has been studying Plant's new techniques/style that he may have picked from his new mentor and the same to his old ways as well. Also, even if we say that Plant has successfully overcome the young blood, what will be his next step? Face Canelo again where his chances are still the same and will lead him to another dead end. Anyway, that's unlikely because this David got the upper hand because of his exemplary skills that might give Canelo some hard time.

Agree! If Plant's strategy got compromised and he will go back to his old style then he might be dominated knowing Benavidez is really aggressive and he can bring Plant lots of aggressive punches that may land to Plants critical areas, it's interesting if how both will showcase their talents once they are already inside the same ring.

That is expected because it's already given that David will come prepared against Plant, now I'm curious what Plant will do to be in the limelight again. On the other hand, given that David's true aim is Canelo, then it's safe to say that he won't be giving some advantages to Plant that will push him in the corner. Either way, it's up to Plant and David if how will they play their scenarios to have a upper hand until the fight ends.
You are right mate, there are so many factors and intangibles in this fight that there are many scenarios just like how you put it. Both wanted to have a piece of Canelo, for Plant his second time, so who knows, he might have leaern from his 1st experience. On the other hand, Canelo Alvarez has been in the mouth of David Benavidez for some time now that we think he can beat Canelo at this point. So it's gonna be interesting how this fight will turn out and who will land that first shot that will change the outcome of the fight.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Caleb Plant vs David Benavidez
Post by: LUCKMCFLY on December 29, 2022, 04:51:15 AM
^^ And that is very tricky indeed, if David Benavidez says no, then he will be blame for everything, for the fight not pushing that's for sure. But then again, if they gave in to the demand of Plant, then it's a big psychological win for Team Caleb Plant and will definitely take control of the fight or even the lion share of the purse.

Very difficult now on the part of Benavidez, but I'm thinking that they will make a counter offer as per the article. That's how negotiation should be, other party should compromise as well and not just one side process.

Yeah, Benavidez' camp will negotiate and will provide their counter offer, it's also their right to counter whatever Plant's camp thinks
is good for them, since a two-way negotiations.

Both camps need to adjust and accept or meet in the middle to push this fight, otherwise it would be a biased one and for sure
both camps are after with the money.

Both sides need to have a decent and acceptable share before they will sit and sign the contracts.

But I don't see it as bad about the negotiation, I think the important thing about this is that they come up with the right terms, if this is fixed in the best way, who will be the best? What about Davis? When we see this type of problem, we realize that everything is reduced to money, to everything that can be given as a benefit to their organizations, but where is the meaning of sport here? of boxing? I think the most important thing here is boxing, what can be enjoyed from the fight, that this is what drives everything, the fights are driven by the betting business model, and the more demand there is for it, the better for it all.



Now Plant says the following:

Plant wants Benavidez fight “locked in” for first quarter 2023

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Plant (22-1, 13 KOs) is in a situation where he can potentially get a rematch with now undisputed super middleweight champion Canelo Alvarez if he defeats WBC interim 168-lb champion Benavidez (26-0, 23 KOs) in a WBC-ordered title eliminator.

Canelo has hinted that he could fight the Plant vs. Benavidez winner, but he hasn’t come right out to say that he will 100% do that.

Some believe that Canelo will fight the winner if it’s Plant, but not if it’s the 26-year-old Benavidez due to the high potential of losing badly to him. Canelo’s career would tank badly if he were to get knocked out by Benavidez, which is why he’s not likely to face him if he beats Plant.

Source: https://www.boxingnews24.com/2022/12/plant-wants-benavidez-fight-locked-in-for-first-quarter-2023/ (https://www.boxingnews24.com/2022/12/plant-wants-benavidez-fight-locked-in-for-first-quarter-2023/)


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Caleb Plant vs David Benavidez
Post by: inthelongrun on December 29, 2022, 01:20:41 PM
...maybe they can settle it in Las Vegas or in New York, the last venue of his devastating knockout of Dirrell and for sure he can bring his fans there and so is David, a lot of Latin American might come and watch his fight but I think NY is pro Puerto Rican but who knows.

New York is probably the best location in terms of being neutral for their fans. The place has a lot of Ricans which is probably the reason why Miguel Cotto made it his American homecourt.

Now Plant says the following:

Plant wants Benavidez fight “locked in” for first quarter 2023

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Plant (22-1, 13 KOs) is in a situation where he can potentially get a rematch with now undisputed super middleweight champion Canelo Alvarez if he defeats WBC interim 168-lb champion Benavidez (26-0, 23 KOs) in a WBC-ordered title eliminator.

Canelo has hinted that he could fight the Plant vs. Benavidez winner, but he hasn’t come right out to say that he will 100% do that.

Some believe that Canelo will fight the winner if it’s Plant, but not if it’s the 26-year-old Benavidez due to the high potential of losing badly to him. Canelo’s career would tank badly if he were to get knocked out by Benavidez, which is why he’s not likely to face him if he beats Plant.

Source: https://www.boxingnews24.com/2022/12/plant-wants-benavidez-fight-locked-in-for-first-quarter-2023/ (https://www.boxingnews24.com/2022/12/plant-wants-benavidez-fight-locked-in-for-first-quarter-2023/)

Hopefully, we can get a date in the first quarter of next year. I am not sure if they already started their training but I won't be surprised if Plant is into it. Benavidez is a huge guy and is probably eating and drinking a lot this Christmas and the coming New Year which makes March or even as far as April as its possible date. 

Canelo will most likely take Plant if he wins. If Benavidez wins and Canelo can't see any weakness then he is likely to move up and take a rematch with Bivol. Although earlier, Canelo already mentioned that a Bivol rematch is his priority. Pretty gutsy but I like it rather than choosing soft oppositions.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Caleb Plant vs David Benavidez
Post by: Ziskinberg on December 29, 2022, 01:36:35 PM

Canelo will most likely take Plant if he wins. If Benavidez wins and Canelo can't see any weakness then he is likely to move up and take a rematch with Bivol. Although earlier, Canelo already mentioned that a Bivol rematch is his priority. Pretty gutsy but I like it rather than choosing soft oppositions.

I think whoever wins this fight would interest Canelo, that if they will agree to fight him. Another tuneup fight before getting into a rematch on a fighter that has defeated him, and I'm pretty sure that it will happen one day, I'm just not sure if canelo will be able to beat Bivol.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Caleb Plant vs David Benavidez
Post by: Fredomago on December 29, 2022, 09:51:21 PM

Canelo will most likely take Plant if he wins. If Benavidez wins and Canelo can't see any weakness then he is likely to move up and take a rematch with Bivol. Although earlier, Canelo already mentioned that a Bivol rematch is his priority. Pretty gutsy but I like it rather than choosing soft oppositions.

I think whoever wins this fight would interest Canelo, that if they will agree to fight him. Another tuneup fight before getting into a rematch on a fighter that has defeated him, and I'm pretty sure that it will happen one day, I'm just not sure if canelo will be able to beat Bivol.
Canelo will take whoever will win if the negotiations between two camps will materialize, it's a good tuneup like what you said before moving up again and chase a rematch from Bivol. We witness how he suffered from bivol, the guy have the speed and the capability to adjust each time Canelo try to box him and dominate.

I like to see Canelo trying his best to beat Bivol, but that would be a big challenge to him. He should take the winner of this upcoming fight before moving back and face Bivol in the upper division.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Caleb Plant vs David Benavidez
Post by: Sanitough on December 30, 2022, 06:24:02 PM

Canelo will most likely take Plant if he wins. If Benavidez wins and Canelo can't see any weakness then he is likely to move up and take a rematch with Bivol. Although earlier, Canelo already mentioned that a Bivol rematch is his priority. Pretty gutsy but I like it rather than choosing soft oppositions.

I think whoever wins this fight would interest Canelo, that if they will agree to fight him. Another tuneup fight before getting into a rematch on a fighter that has defeated him, and I'm pretty sure that it will happen one day, I'm just not sure if canelo will be able to beat Bivol.
Canelo will take whoever will win if the negotiations between two camps will materialize, it's a good tuneup like what you said before moving up again and chase a rematch from Bivol. We witness how he suffered from bivol, the guy have the speed and the capability to adjust each time Canelo try to box him and dominate.

I like to see Canelo trying his best to beat Bivol, but that would be a big challenge to him. He should take the winner of this upcoming fight before moving back and face Bivol in the upper division.

I'm thinking the opposite thing, Canelo is taking less priority whoever wins between Plant and Benavidez because Canelo has already set his eyes towards Bivol and make a comeback after that defeat that he experienced in the hands of a Russian boxer. And before that rematch, it has been said that Canelo will take a tune-up first because he just came back from a surgery. And I think Canelo is not yet due to a mandatory fight, that's why the winner of this bout will have to wait.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Caleb Plant vs David Benavidez
Post by: stadus on December 30, 2022, 06:36:44 PM
I don't see any improvement on Caleb Plant though, it's really based on who he is going to fight. For the Anthony Dirrell's fight, we see that Dirrell has no respect on Caleb's power and that was his own wrong doing. And so when Caleb throws that left hook, it was perfect and Dirrell just caught it with his face.

Maybe he has a new trainer and probably executing good techniques, but when he goes on another situation that his back is against the wall or has been hit so much, he will go back to his old style.

And so he will be an open book once again if he goes back to his old style, it's also obvious that David's camp has been studying Plant's new techniques/style that he may have picked from his new mentor and the same to his old ways as well. Also, even if we say that Plant has successfully overcome the young blood, what will be his next step? Face Canelo again where his chances are still the same and will lead him to another dead end. Anyway, that's unlikely because this David got the upper hand because of his exemplary skills that might give Canelo some hard time.

Agree! If Plant's strategy got compromised and he will go back to his old style then he might be dominated knowing Benavidez is really aggressive and he can bring Plant lots of aggressive punches that may land to Plants critical areas, it's interesting if how both will showcase their talents once they are already inside the same ring.

That is expected because it's already given that David will come prepared against Plant, now I'm curious what Plant will do to be in the limelight again. On the other hand, given that David's true aim is Canelo, then it's safe to say that he won't be giving some advantages to Plant that will push him in the corner. Either way, it's up to Plant and David if how will they play their scenarios to have a upper hand until the fight ends.
You are right mate, there are so many factors and intangibles in this fight that there are many scenarios just like how you put it. Both wanted to have a piece of Canelo, for Plant his second time, so who knows, he might have leaern from his 1st experience. On the other hand, Canelo Alvarez has been in the mouth of David Benavidez for some time now that we think he can beat Canelo at this point. So it's gonna be interesting how this fight will turn out and who will land that first shot that will change the outcome of the fight.

Whoever it is, surely, the one who have some more concrete plan will be the one who gets to face the undisputed champion, Canelo Alvarez. Caleb Plant might have a counter this time against Canelo and learned a thing or two, but he cannot do that if he cannot get past this David Benavidez who I think got the upper hand in this fight and is also looking forward to fight Canelo.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Caleb Plant vs David Benavidez
Post by: Kemarit on December 30, 2022, 08:12:11 PM

Canelo will most likely take Plant if he wins. If Benavidez wins and Canelo can't see any weakness then he is likely to move up and take a rematch with Bivol. Although earlier, Canelo already mentioned that a Bivol rematch is his priority. Pretty gutsy but I like it rather than choosing soft oppositions.

I think whoever wins this fight would interest Canelo, that if they will agree to fight him. Another tuneup fight before getting into a rematch on a fighter that has defeated him, and I'm pretty sure that it will happen one day, I'm just not sure if canelo will be able to beat Bivol.
Canelo will take whoever will win if the negotiations between two camps will materialize, it's a good tuneup like what you said before moving up again and chase a rematch from Bivol. We witness how he suffered from bivol, the guy have the speed and the capability to adjust each time Canelo try to box him and dominate.

I like to see Canelo trying his best to beat Bivol, but that would be a big challenge to him. He should take the winner of this upcoming fight before moving back and face Bivol in the upper division.

I'm thinking the opposite thing, Canelo is taking less priority whoever wins between Plant and Benavidez because Canelo has already set his eyes towards Bivol and make a comeback after that defeat that he experienced in the hands of a Russian boxer. And before that rematch, it has been said that Canelo will take a tune-up first because he just came back from a surgery. And I think Canelo is not yet due to a mandatory fight, that's why the winner of this bout will have to wait.

Bivol will still be the main target of Canelo if ever he comes back, but I don't think he will take a tune up fight though, he might directly go to Bivol first after he is healed. There's no point in Canelo fighting a tune up because it will just delay his rematch. He is full of pride that he wants as soon as he beat GGG to go to Bivol right away. And so that winner of this fight will have to wait a bit longer though, but for sure Canelo will give them a chance specially if David Benavidez win the fight because he wants to shut his mouth as well because he is telling a lot in the public against Canelo.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Caleb Plant vs David Benavidez
Post by: LUCKMCFLY on January 04, 2023, 01:03:43 PM
Are there odds already in the bookies and anyone who had compared them which is the best bookie to have it, if there's any?

Last time I check, there are no odds yet for this match, but I reckon that Benavidez could be the slight favorite here.

Each of them would say that they can beat the sh!t out of their opponent 100%. It usually is the word that they say as they have to be strong even in their words.

True, but it will be a different story once they got into the ring. Specially if you felt the power of one another. It's either you can take it, or decided not to go toe to toe because you might get knock out of knock down. But we shall see between the two, the animosity is real as they have history way before they made their names.
Well, I cannot deny that Benavidez is a boxer who inspires respect and his way of fighting is somewhat peculiar and has an unorthodox style but he is very efficient.

If we take into account that they may have various ways of fighting against Plant, I believe that Benavidez could appeal to his basic way of fighting to see what kind of plan the boxer has, although that is something that I would not do because it would expose himself to a lot, some boxers who try to do that, sometimes they come out in a knockout and they don't do very well, so I think he can make a great fight, and the statistics can be very flat so far, but I think that for now I would not know who to go for and make a bet.



Canelo will most likely take Plant if he wins. If Benavidez wins and Canelo can't see any weakness then he is likely to move up and take a rematch with Bivol. Although earlier, Canelo already mentioned that a Bivol rematch is his priority. Pretty gutsy but I like it rather than choosing soft oppositions.

I think whoever wins this fight would interest Canelo, that if they will agree to fight him. Another tuneup fight before getting into a rematch on a fighter that has defeated him, and I'm pretty sure that it will happen one day, I'm just not sure if canelo will be able to beat Bivol.
Canelo will take whoever will win if the negotiations between two camps will materialize, it's a good tuneup like what you said before moving up again and chase a rematch from Bivol. We witness how he suffered from bivol, the guy have the speed and the capability to adjust each time Canelo try to box him and dominate.

I like to see Canelo trying his best to beat Bivol, but that would be a big challenge to him. He should take the winner of this upcoming fight before moving back and face Bivol in the upper division.

I'm thinking the opposite thing, Canelo is taking less priority whoever wins between Plant and Benavidez because Canelo has already set his eyes towards Bivol and make a comeback after that defeat that he experienced in the hands of a Russian boxer. And before that rematch, it has been said that Canelo will take a tune-up first because he just came back from a surgery. And I think Canelo is not yet due to a mandatory fight, that's why the winner of this bout will have to wait.

Bivol will still be the main target of Canelo if ever he comes back, but I don't think he will take a tune up fight though, he might directly go to Bivol first after he is healed. There's no point in Canelo fighting a tune up because it will just delay his rematch. He is full of pride that he wants as soon as he beat GGG to go to Bivol right away. And so that winner of this fight will have to wait a bit longer though, but for sure Canelo will give them a chance specially if David Benavidez win the fight because he wants to shut his mouth as well because he is telling a lot in the public against Canelo.

Well, this is something that we cannot forget, I know that Canelo has many things to accomplish, and I am very sure that he will do whatever it takes to face Bivol again, who has many things on his mind, I think that what he is looking for is a lot of fame , money, and I think that now he has to do other things, among which he has to accept the challenge that he has with him, a rematch is a rematch and he has to accept that he can do two things, the first, win and show that he is the better and second if he wins, Canelo would not have it very easy to challenge him again, I think that could put Bivol in that standard that he wants to be recognized.

Canelo Alvarez’s trainer wants Dmitry Bivol rematch in 2023

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By Brian Webber: Canelo Alvarez’s trainer Eddy Reynoso has contacted Matchroom Boxing promoter Eddie Hearn to inform him that his fighter wants a rematch with Dmitry Bivol in 2023.

In the meantime, Hearn states that Canelo (58-2-2, 39 KOs) wants a warm-up fight in May, likely against his WBO 168-lb mandatory John Ryder, before facing Bivol (21-0, 11 KOs) in the rematch in September.

What’s unclear is what weight the Canelo-Bivol II second fight will take place. Hearn likes the idea of the rematch being contested at 168, which would make it fairer for Canelo because Bivol would need to drain down in weight from 175.

Moreover, Bivol would have the opportunity to become undisputed at 168 and then return to the 175-lb division to face IBF, WBA & WBO light heavyweight champion Artur Beterbiev for the undisputed in that weight class as well.

Source: https://www.boxingnews24.com/2023/01/canelo-alvarezs-trainer-wants-dmitry-bivol-rematch-in-2023/ (https://www.boxingnews24.com/2023/01/canelo-alvarezs-trainer-wants-dmitry-bivol-rematch-in-2023/)


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Caleb Plant vs David Benavidez
Post by: Baofeng on January 04, 2023, 09:52:21 PM
Well there is a new name popping around recently that Canelo is interested on fighting British contender John Ryder.

For sure it won't sit well on the winner of this fight, because we wanted if David Benavidez wins here, to fight Canelo. So it's a surprised if indeed Canelo will skip Bivol in his comeback fight and step aside the winner here and fight John Ryder.

I wouldn't be surprised though as we all know that Canelo is recovering from his injuries so he might as well take a light opponent first before taking either the winner of this fight or again avenge his defeat to Bivol.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Caleb Plant vs David Benavidez
Post by: TravelMug on January 05, 2023, 03:22:09 AM
Well there is a new name popping around recently that Canelo is interested on fighting British contender John Ryder.

Not sure who John Ryder is? and why would Canelo pick him when he had a lot of fighters chasing him, is he getting soft now in 2023 and could be a sign that he is slowing down already?

The fight that we wanted to see is Bivol and then the winner of this fight, simply as that.

If he fights other boxer, then it wouldn't sit good with his fans and the boxing community for sure.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Caleb Plant vs David Benavidez
Post by: btc_angela on January 05, 2023, 03:42:35 AM
Well there is a new name popping around recently that Canelo is interested on fighting British contender John Ryder.

Not sure who John Ryder is? and why would Canelo pick him when he had a lot of fighters chasing him, is he getting soft now in 2023 and could be a sign that he is slowing down already?

The fight that we wanted to see is Bivol and then the winner of this fight, simply as that.

If he fights other boxer, then it wouldn't sit good with his fans and the boxing community for sure.

That is weird indeed if Canelo is eyeing this British fighter, and looking at the records, he has lost to some of the British boxers that Canelo has knockout, like Callum Smith and Rocky Fielding. So this is a cherry pick fight for Canelo next and is a downgrade to all the opponents that he had face in the past. Probably he wanted to have an easy route specially coming from his hand injury. This kind of injury are not new to the boxers, but it can comeback again. So maybe his team need someone that will have his hands force to the maximum again, in my opinion.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Caleb Plant vs David Benavidez
Post by: freedomgo on January 05, 2023, 04:06:47 AM
Well there is a new name popping around recently that Canelo is interested on fighting British contender John Ryder.

For sure it won't sit well on the winner of this fight, because we wanted if David Benavidez wins here, to fight Canelo. So it's a surprised if indeed Canelo will skip Bivol in his comeback fight and step aside the winner here and fight John Ryder.

I wouldn't be surprised though as we all know that Canelo is recovering from his injuries so he might as well take a light opponent first before taking either the winner of this fight or again avenge his defeat to Bivol.

As far as I know, Eddie Hearn and Canelo Alvarez's camp have said last year that Canelo won't be fighting a direct heavy opponent after his surgery because they needed to get him back to his feet first just to be safe and that he will be given a tune-up fight before he decides to face the winner of Plant-Benavidez fight or go for a rematch with Bivol. So, I'm thinking that maybe this is what they meant that time because John Ryder is not that kind of a risk to Canelo's throne, but I found out that Ryder have the WBO interim belt which kind of confusing.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Caleb Plant vs David Benavidez
Post by: Sithara007 on January 05, 2023, 04:22:00 AM
^^^ Yeah, John Ryder won the WBO interim super middleweight title a month ago, after he defeated Zach Parker at the O2 arena. But I agree with the argument that Ryder is not as good as either Caleb Plant or David Benavidez. And obviously Bivol is the best out of all the four possible opponents. But the Bivol fight may not happen this year. Canelo is not prepared to face him as he is still recovering, and Bivol still hasn't received the purse from his fight against Canelo, as a result of US sanctions against Russian citizens.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Caleb Plant vs David Benavidez
Post by: Jating on January 05, 2023, 10:16:34 AM
Well there is a new name popping around recently that Canelo is interested on fighting British contender John Ryder.

For sure it won't sit well on the winner of this fight, because we wanted if David Benavidez wins here, to fight Canelo. So it's a surprised if indeed Canelo will skip Bivol in his comeback fight and step aside the winner here and fight John Ryder.

I wouldn't be surprised though as we all know that Canelo is recovering from his injuries so he might as well take a light opponent first before taking either the winner of this fight or again avenge his defeat to Bivol.

As far as I know, Eddie Hearn and Canelo Alvarez's camp have said last year that Canelo won't be fighting a direct heavy opponent after his surgery because they needed to get him back to his feet first just to be safe and that he will be given a tune-up fight before he decides to face the winner of Plant-Benavidez fight or go for a rematch with Bivol. So, I'm thinking that maybe this is what they meant that time because John Ryder is not that kind of a risk to Canelo's throne, but I found out that Ryder have the WBO interim belt which kind of confusing.

Probably, but let's see how Canelo critics will take this, for sure they will give a lot of negative press for Canelo in he chooses this fighter. Which I had to admit I have to check his boxrec to see if he is worthy.

So he is the interim WBO belt, but it doesn't matter, but now we all know what they are fighting him. It's because of his injury and yeah probably a tune up and test how his hands were after the surgery. Maybe after this one he will fight either Bivol or the winner here. Canelo as well said that he wants to fight 3x a year so that is about the possibility for this year or at least 3x fight within 12 months.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Caleb Plant vs David Benavidez
Post by: carlisle1 on January 05, 2023, 09:59:02 PM
Well there is a new name popping around recently that Canelo is interested on fighting British contender John Ryder.

For sure it won't sit well on the winner of this fight, because we wanted if David Benavidez wins here, to fight Canelo. So it's a surprised if indeed Canelo will skip Bivol in his comeback fight and step aside the winner here and fight John Ryder.

I wouldn't be surprised though as we all know that Canelo is recovering from his injuries so he might as well take a light opponent first before taking either the winner of this fight or again avenge his defeat to Bivol.

Canelo's camp will find ways to take it lighter as he is recovering from his injuries, better than fight lightly than there's no fight at all,
even he might criticize but what is important is he will bring fight for the fans.

whoever wins in this upcoming fight against Plant and Benavidez, they will wait if Canelo deals with them, there's nothing to do
for now, but to focus with their fight.

Talking for the next fight will be too early, as they needed to take care of the fight first then talk for the next coming one.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Caleb Plant vs David Benavidez
Post by: btc_angela on January 06, 2023, 05:05:32 AM
Well there is a new name popping around recently that Canelo is interested on fighting British contender John Ryder.

For sure it won't sit well on the winner of this fight, because we wanted if David Benavidez wins here, to fight Canelo. So it's a surprised if indeed Canelo will skip Bivol in his comeback fight and step aside the winner here and fight John Ryder.

I wouldn't be surprised though as we all know that Canelo is recovering from his injuries so he might as well take a light opponent first before taking either the winner of this fight or again avenge his defeat to Bivol.

Canelo's camp will find ways to take it lighter as he is recovering from his injuries, better than fight lightly than there's no fight at all,
even he might criticize but what is important is he will bring fight for the fans.

whoever wins in this upcoming fight against Plant and Benavidez, they will wait if Canelo deals with them, there's nothing to do
for now, but to focus with their fight.

Talking for the next fight will be too early, as they needed to take care of the fight first then talk for the next coming one.


I guess it's better that way for this two, not to listen what  Canelo's plan it for the future, whether it was Ryder or the winner of their fight They will simply have to deal with each other first, see how the fight will go although it seems for us, David is the favorite.

And then whoever wins, demand for a Canelo fight. And that's the only thing, they have to pressure Canelo and maybe he will have a change of heart and then go either with Bivol or the winner here. Still, it's all Canelo's decision in the end.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Caleb Plant vs David Benavidez
Post by: Sithara007 on January 06, 2023, 06:40:14 AM
Eddie Hearn's idea is nuts. He wants Dmitry Bivol to drain down to 168 from 175. That is not going to happen anyway. Bivol will refuse it outright. He would rather stay at 175 and face Artur Beterbiev. The idea of being undisputed at both 168 and 175 may sound very promising, but I am sure that Bivol is intelligent enough to understand the trap that is being laid for him here. IMO, Canelo should focus on fighting John Ryder first, and after that he should fight the winner of the Caleb Plant vs David Benavidez match.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Caleb Plant vs David Benavidez
Post by: Kelvinid on January 06, 2023, 06:43:59 AM
IMO, Canelo should focus on fighting John Ryder first, and after that he should fight the winner of the Caleb Plant vs David Benavidez match.

That would be an easy fight for Canelo because John Ryder is not an undefeated boxer. Well, actually both easy especially if Caleb Plant will win on this fight but of course, we doubt that because Benavidez is such a great fighter, it might even end up in a one sided beat down win by Benavidez.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Caleb Plant vs David Benavidez
Post by: Ziskinberg on January 06, 2023, 07:16:17 AM

Canelo will most likely take Plant if he wins. If Benavidez wins and Canelo can't see any weakness then he is likely to move up and take a rematch with Bivol. Although earlier, Canelo already mentioned that a Bivol rematch is his priority. Pretty gutsy but I like it rather than choosing soft oppositions.

I think whoever wins this fight would interest Canelo, that if they will agree to fight him. Another tuneup fight before getting into a rematch on a fighter that has defeated him, and I'm pretty sure that it will happen one day, I'm just not sure if canelo will be able to beat Bivol.
Canelo will take whoever will win if the negotiations between two camps will materialize, it's a good tuneup like what you said before moving up again and chase a rematch from Bivol. We witness how he suffered from bivol, the guy have the speed and the capability to adjust each time Canelo try to box him and dominate.

I like to see Canelo trying his best to beat Bivol, but that would be a big challenge to him. He should take the winner of this upcoming fight before moving back and face Bivol in the upper division.

Canelo will never forget that, he loses to Bivol and rushes to have a rematch but then he realizes he is not yet ready, so we've seen him fighting his usual weight. Well, I'm not hoping Plant would win as we know it would be an easy fight for Canelo, but if it will be Benavidez, it should be a great fight for Canelo.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Caleb Plant vs David Benavidez
Post by: Baofeng on January 06, 2023, 01:19:58 PM
Eddie Hearn's idea is nuts. He wants Dmitry Bivol to drain down to 168 from 175. That is not going to happen anyway. Bivol will refuse it outright. He would rather stay at 175 and face Artur Beterbiev. The idea of being undisputed at both 168 and 175 may sound very promising, but I am sure that Bivol is intelligent enough to understand the trap that is being laid for him here. IMO, Canelo should focus on fighting John Ryder first, and after that he should fight the winner of the Caleb Plant vs David Benavidez match.

And Bivol hasn't fought in 168 lbs, he was a natural Light HW since the beginning of his career, so we know what Hearn or Canelo is thinking here, to drain Bivol in their rematch to get all the advantage and at least assure of them of a big win. So the ball is on the court of Bivol and his team, if they are going to succumb to the pressures or just simply look for other fight at 175 lbs.

And as I have said, if the Bivol fight is not going to happen, they will pick an easy fight and that could be John Ryder.

On the other hand, Plant vs Benavidez is not a snoozer, Plant's knockout of Dirrell is knockout of the year for me. So he will be riding on this momentum to have a big knockout win and repeat that act, if he can against David.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Caleb Plant vs David Benavidez
Post by: virasisog on January 06, 2023, 03:57:04 PM

Canelo will most likely take Plant if he wins. If Benavidez wins and Canelo can't see any weakness then he is likely to move up and take a rematch with Bivol. Although earlier, Canelo already mentioned that a Bivol rematch is his priority. Pretty gutsy but I like it rather than choosing soft oppositions.

I think whoever wins this fight would interest Canelo, that if they will agree to fight him. Another tuneup fight before getting into a rematch on a fighter that has defeated him, and I'm pretty sure that it will happen one day, I'm just not sure if canelo will be able to beat Bivol.
Canelo will take whoever will win if the negotiations between two camps will materialize, it's a good tuneup like what you said before moving up again and chase a rematch from Bivol. We witness how he suffered from bivol, the guy have the speed and the capability to adjust each time Canelo try to box him and dominate.

I like to see Canelo trying his best to beat Bivol, but that would be a big challenge for him. He should take the winner of this upcoming fight before moving back and facing Bivol in the upper division.

Canelo will never forget that, he loses to Bivol and rushes to have a rematch but then he realizes he is not yet ready, so we've seen him fighting his usual weight. Well, I'm not hoping Plant would win as we know it would be an easy fight for Canelo, but if it will be Benavidez, it should be a great fight for Canelo.

It will be a good challenge for Canelo if Benavidez would win this match. Benavidez always prepares well for his matches so this will also be tough for Plant. Instead of Canelo chasing his lose fight with Bivol, I guess he should test and prove himself more with other boxers first so he'll be more prepared when he faces Bivol again. It seems like he had a hard time fighting during their last match.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Caleb Plant vs David Benavidez
Post by: freedomgo on January 07, 2023, 06:53:24 AM
Well there is a new name popping around recently that Canelo is interested on fighting British contender John Ryder.

For sure it won't sit well on the winner of this fight, because we wanted if David Benavidez wins here, to fight Canelo. So it's a surprised if indeed Canelo will skip Bivol in his comeback fight and step aside the winner here and fight John Ryder.

I wouldn't be surprised though as we all know that Canelo is recovering from his injuries so he might as well take a light opponent first before taking either the winner of this fight or again avenge his defeat to Bivol.

As far as I know, Eddie Hearn and Canelo Alvarez's camp have said last year that Canelo won't be fighting a direct heavy opponent after his surgery because they needed to get him back to his feet first just to be safe and that he will be given a tune-up fight before he decides to face the winner of Plant-Benavidez fight or go for a rematch with Bivol. So, I'm thinking that maybe this is what they meant that time because John Ryder is not that kind of a risk to Canelo's throne, but I found out that Ryder have the WBO interim belt which kind of confusing.

Probably, but let's see how Canelo critics will take this, for sure they will give a lot of negative press for Canelo in he chooses this fighter. Which I had to admit I have to check his boxrec to see if he is worthy.

So he is the interim WBO belt, but it doesn't matter, but now we all know what they are fighting him. It's because of his injury and yeah probably a tune up and test how his hands were after the surgery. Maybe after this one he will fight either Bivol or the winner here. Canelo as well said that he wants to fight 3x a year so that is about the possibility for this year or at least 3x fight within 12 months.

Well, if Canelo can manage to make this tune-up fight happen before the 1st quarter of this year ends then I think he can do three fights this year. But that still depends though if how this fight will turns out because this is still a test for Canelo to see if his hands are working fine or should he needed some more rest to recover from the surgery. Either way, he will be fighting the winner of this fight or Bivol, that's for sure. The question is, who will be fighting first.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Caleb Plant vs David Benavidez
Post by: stadus on January 07, 2023, 08:46:21 AM
Eddie Hearn's idea is nuts. He wants Dmitry Bivol to drain down to 168 from 175. That is not going to happen anyway. Bivol will refuse it outright. He would rather stay at 175 and face Artur Beterbiev. The idea of being undisputed at both 168 and 175 may sound very promising, but I am sure that Bivol is intelligent enough to understand the trap that is being laid for him here. IMO, Canelo should focus on fighting John Ryder first, and after that he should fight the winner of the Caleb Plant vs David Benavidez match.

And Bivol hasn't fought in 168 lbs, he was a natural Light HW since the beginning of his career, so we know what Hearn or Canelo is thinking here, to drain Bivol in their rematch to get all the advantage and at least assure of them of a big win. So the ball is on the court of Bivol and his team, if they are going to succumb to the pressures or just simply look for other fight at 175 lbs.

And as I have said, if the Bivol fight is not going to happen, they will pick an easy fight and that could be John Ryder.

On the other hand, Plant vs Benavidez is not a snoozer, Plant's knockout of Dirrell is knockout of the year for me. So he will be riding on this momentum to have a big knockout win and repeat that act, if he can against David.

But Bivol won't be risking his title if he will fight Canelo at 168 lbs, the interesting question for this, is Canelo willing to risk his titles on the line just for the sake of getting a higher chance against Bivol? I don't think that's a good idea, really. They are saying that Bivol should visit Canelo at his division, but what if Bivol will agree and will make the weight.

They should just approach the rematch at Bivol's division and not the opposite because Canelo has nothing to lose anymore, it will be a money fight for their camp without any risks and Canelo will benefit either way as well because he will get a belt if he can pull a win in this rematch.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Caleb Plant vs David Benavidez
Post by: Jating on January 07, 2023, 09:31:54 AM
Well there is a new name popping around recently that Canelo is interested on fighting British contender John Ryder.

For sure it won't sit well on the winner of this fight, because we wanted if David Benavidez wins here, to fight Canelo. So it's a surprised if indeed Canelo will skip Bivol in his comeback fight and step aside the winner here and fight John Ryder.

I wouldn't be surprised though as we all know that Canelo is recovering from his injuries so he might as well take a light opponent first before taking either the winner of this fight or again avenge his defeat to Bivol.

As far as I know, Eddie Hearn and Canelo Alvarez's camp have said last year that Canelo won't be fighting a direct heavy opponent after his surgery because they needed to get him back to his feet first just to be safe and that he will be given a tune-up fight before he decides to face the winner of Plant-Benavidez fight or go for a rematch with Bivol. So, I'm thinking that maybe this is what they meant that time because John Ryder is not that kind of a risk to Canelo's throne, but I found out that Ryder have the WBO interim belt which kind of confusing.

Probably, but let's see how Canelo critics will take this, for sure they will give a lot of negative press for Canelo in he chooses this fighter. Which I had to admit I have to check his boxrec to see if he is worthy.

So he is the interim WBO belt, but it doesn't matter, but now we all know what they are fighting him. It's because of his injury and yeah probably a tune up and test how his hands were after the surgery. Maybe after this one he will fight either Bivol or the winner here. Canelo as well said that he wants to fight 3x a year so that is about the possibility for this year or at least 3x fight within 12 months.

Well, if Canelo can manage to make this tune-up fight happen before the 1st quarter of this year ends then I think he can do three fights this year. But that still depends though if how this fight will turns out because this is still a test for Canelo to see if his hands are working fine or should he needed some more rest to recover from the surgery. Either way, he will be fighting the winner of this fight or Bivol, that's for sure. The question is, who will be fighting first.

I agree, but for sure when he will fight when there is a green light from his doctor. But nevertheless it's a big risk for him as it might reoccur and that's why they are thinking of having just a easy and get busy fight with Ryder, (assuming this will be the case).

If Bivol decided to go down to 168 lbs and fight Canelo then for sure the belt of Canelo will be on the line, otherwise it's no point for Bivol to go down to 168 lbs because that is a big risk for him.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Caleb Plant vs David Benavidez
Post by: carlisle1 on January 09, 2023, 07:59:14 AM
Eddie Hearn's idea is nuts. He wants Dmitry Bivol to drain down to 168 from 175. That is not going to happen anyway. Bivol will refuse it outright. He would rather stay at 175 and face Artur Beterbiev. The idea of being undisputed at both 168 and 175 may sound very promising, but I am sure that Bivol is intelligent enough to understand the trap that is being laid for him here. IMO, Canelo should focus on fighting John Ryder first, and after that he should fight the winner of the Caleb Plant vs David Benavidez match.

And Bivol hasn't fought in 168 lbs, he was a natural Light HW since the beginning of his career, so we know what Hearn or Canelo is thinking here, to drain Bivol in their rematch to get all the advantage and at least assure of them of a big win. So the ball is on the court of Bivol and his team, if they are going to succumb to the pressures or just simply look for other fight at 175 lbs.

And as I have said, if the Bivol fight is not going to happen, they will pick an easy fight and that could be John Ryder.

On the other hand, Plant vs Benavidez is not a snoozer, Plant's knockout of Dirrell is knockout of the year for me. So he will be riding on this momentum to have a big knockout win and repeat that act, if he can against David.

But Bivol won't be risking his title if he will fight Canelo at 168 lbs, the interesting question for this, is Canelo willing to risk his titles on the line just for the sake of getting a higher chance against Bivol? I don't think that's a good idea, really. They are saying that Bivol should visit Canelo at his division, but what if Bivol will agree and will make the weight.

They should just approach the rematch at Bivol's division and not the opposite because Canelo has nothing to lose anymore, it will be a money fight for their camp without any risks and Canelo will benefit either way as well because he will get a belt if he can pull a win in this rematch.

What if Bivol will do that and try snatching Canelo's belt? It's not by far since Bivol can take that weight and he can continue doing
the same fighting style or maybe he can be more fit.

I get your point and the possibility that Canelo will move up for the sake of money is higher, nothing to lose, but there's a huge
amount that in stake if he will take his chance to call for a rematch in the same weight level.

Let's see if how they will take that, but for the meantime let's move back to Caleb and Benavidez.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Caleb Plant vs David Benavidez
Post by: Questat on January 09, 2023, 09:28:45 AM

What if Bivol will do that and try snatching Canelo's belt? It's not by far since Bivol can take that weight and he can continue doing
the same fighting style or maybe he can be more fit.
Bivol IMO will not go down, because if he wants to, he would have done that a long time ago.
Canelo is the one who should go up again to take the rematch as that's the only chance he can even the match, then we might see a trilogy which would surely gather a lot of money from the fans.


I get your point and the possibility that Canelo will move up for the sake of money is higher, nothing to lose, but there's a huge
amount that in stake if he will take his chance to call for a rematch in the same weight level.

Let's see if how they will take that, but for the meantime let's move back to Caleb and Benavidez.

It's a huge gamble for Canelo because he suffered defeat during his attempt, but who knows maybe in the 2nd try he'll succeed.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Caleb Plant vs David Benavidez
Post by: carlisle1 on January 10, 2023, 09:55:53 AM

What if Bivol will do that and try snatching Canelo's belt? It's not by far since Bivol can take that weight and he can continue doing
the same fighting style or maybe he can be more fit.
Bivol IMO will not go down, because if he wants to, he would have done that a long time ago.
Canelo is the one who should go up again to take the rematch as that's the only chance he can even the match, then we might see a trilogy which would surely gather a lot of money from the fans.

Bivol have all the reason not to do so, a legit champ who can play now with Canelo, like you I'm sure it's Canelo that will re-try
his chance and call for the rematch, if in-case he manage to win.

A good trilogy that will bring more money to both camps, we know the influence of huge amount it's not surprising if ever
that it will happen right?

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I get your point and the possibility that Canelo will move up for the sake of money is higher, nothing to lose, but there's a huge
amount that in stake if he will take his chance to call for a rematch in the same weight level.

Let's see if how they will take that, but for the meantime let's move back to Caleb and Benavidez.

It's a huge gamble for Canelo because he suffered defeat during his attempt, but who knows maybe in the 2nd try he'll succeed.

Again, it will be on his side to call for that rematch, if he thinks or the camp thinks that he got his winning chance, then they will proceed.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Caleb Plant vs David Benavidez
Post by: stadus on January 10, 2023, 04:37:13 PM
Eddie Hearn's idea is nuts. He wants Dmitry Bivol to drain down to 168 from 175. That is not going to happen anyway. Bivol will refuse it outright. He would rather stay at 175 and face Artur Beterbiev. The idea of being undisputed at both 168 and 175 may sound very promising, but I am sure that Bivol is intelligent enough to understand the trap that is being laid for him here. IMO, Canelo should focus on fighting John Ryder first, and after that he should fight the winner of the Caleb Plant vs David Benavidez match.

And Bivol hasn't fought in 168 lbs, he was a natural Light HW since the beginning of his career, so we know what Hearn or Canelo is thinking here, to drain Bivol in their rematch to get all the advantage and at least assure of them of a big win. So the ball is on the court of Bivol and his team, if they are going to succumb to the pressures or just simply look for other fight at 175 lbs.

And as I have said, if the Bivol fight is not going to happen, they will pick an easy fight and that could be John Ryder.

On the other hand, Plant vs Benavidez is not a snoozer, Plant's knockout of Dirrell is knockout of the year for me. So he will be riding on this momentum to have a big knockout win and repeat that act, if he can against David.

But Bivol won't be risking his title if he will fight Canelo at 168 lbs, the interesting question for this, is Canelo willing to risk his titles on the line just for the sake of getting a higher chance against Bivol? I don't think that's a good idea, really. They are saying that Bivol should visit Canelo at his division, but what if Bivol will agree and will make the weight.

They should just approach the rematch at Bivol's division and not the opposite because Canelo has nothing to lose anymore, it will be a money fight for their camp without any risks and Canelo will benefit either way as well because he will get a belt if he can pull a win in this rematch.

What if Bivol will do that and try snatching Canelo's belt? It's not by far since Bivol can take that weight and he can continue doing
the same fighting style or maybe he can be more fit.

I get your point and the possibility that Canelo will move up for the sake of money is higher, nothing to lose, but there's a huge
amount that in stake if he will take his chance to call for a rematch in the same weight level.

Let's see if how they will take that, but for the meantime let's move back to Caleb and Benavidez.

They really need to think it thoroughly and carefully because it will be an expensive mistake if they will decide to contest the fight at 168 lbs. rather than making the fight happen where their first encounter happened. The risks is just too great for Canelo Alvarez to bear, he doesn't have to prove anything anymore.

Back to the topic, it's much interesting to see if Canelo will give the winner of this bout to face him this year after Canelo's tune-up fight with Ryder and having said that, I'm more inclined to see Benavidez vs Canelo rather than Plant vs Canelo as there won't be any difference if these two will meet again.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Caleb Plant vs David Benavidez
Post by: Kemarit on January 11, 2023, 02:06:12 AM
^^ Everyone here is inclined to see Benavidez vs Canelo, it will be a fresh challenge for the cash cow and so it will be interesting how he will deal with the youth of Benavidez and the speed and the power as well (although David is flat footed).

And I'm thinking that if Plant wins here, Canelo will not give him another opportunity.

He might go directly with Bivol again, regardless if the weight is 168-175 lbs. Bivol is more willing to fight Canelo at this point for his legacy.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Caleb Plant vs David Benavidez
Post by: freedomgo on January 11, 2023, 09:38:34 AM
Well there is a new name popping around recently that Canelo is interested on fighting British contender John Ryder.

For sure it won't sit well on the winner of this fight, because we wanted if David Benavidez wins here, to fight Canelo. So it's a surprised if indeed Canelo will skip Bivol in his comeback fight and step aside the winner here and fight John Ryder.

I wouldn't be surprised though as we all know that Canelo is recovering from his injuries so he might as well take a light opponent first before taking either the winner of this fight or again avenge his defeat to Bivol.

As far as I know, Eddie Hearn and Canelo Alvarez's camp have said last year that Canelo won't be fighting a direct heavy opponent after his surgery because they needed to get him back to his feet first just to be safe and that he will be given a tune-up fight before he decides to face the winner of Plant-Benavidez fight or go for a rematch with Bivol. So, I'm thinking that maybe this is what they meant that time because John Ryder is not that kind of a risk to Canelo's throne, but I found out that Ryder have the WBO interim belt which kind of confusing.

Probably, but let's see how Canelo critics will take this, for sure they will give a lot of negative press for Canelo in he chooses this fighter. Which I had to admit I have to check his boxrec to see if he is worthy.

So he is the interim WBO belt, but it doesn't matter, but now we all know what they are fighting him. It's because of his injury and yeah probably a tune up and test how his hands were after the surgery. Maybe after this one he will fight either Bivol or the winner here. Canelo as well said that he wants to fight 3x a year so that is about the possibility for this year or at least 3x fight within 12 months.

Well, if Canelo can manage to make this tune-up fight happen before the 1st quarter of this year ends then I think he can do three fights this year. But that still depends though if how this fight will turns out because this is still a test for Canelo to see if his hands are working fine or should he needed some more rest to recover from the surgery. Either way, he will be fighting the winner of this fight or Bivol, that's for sure. The question is, who will be fighting first.

I agree, but for sure when he will fight when there is a green light from his doctor. But nevertheless it's a big risk for him as it might reoccur and that's why they are thinking of having just a easy and get busy fight with Ryder, (assuming this will be the case).

If Bivol decided to go down to 168 lbs and fight Canelo then for sure the belt of Canelo will be on the line, otherwise it's no point for Bivol to go down to 168 lbs because that is a big risk for him.

Yes, that's Canelo's scenario for now because he have to watch his wrist first if it's already healed or not. He's quite older already so the tissues are not that healing fast compared to a boxer in the midst of his 20s. I just hope there would be no delay because I still wanted to see Canelo dance during his prime years and fight the heavy names in the industry that are after him.

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If Bivol decided to go down to 168 lbs and fight Canelo then for sure the belt of Canelo will be on the line, otherwise it's no point for Bivol to go down to 168 lbs because that is a big risk for him.

That's true! Whether if it's super-middle or light-heavy, there will be a belt for sure. But Canelo got more risk because he got 4 in the line unlike Bivol where only got 1 title to risk. Anyway, we will see how things will turn out soon enough.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Caleb Plant vs David Benavidez
Post by: stadus on January 11, 2023, 05:09:20 PM
^^ Everyone here is inclined to see Benavidez vs Canelo, it will be a fresh challenge for the cash cow and so it will be interesting how he will deal with the youth of Benavidez and the speed and the power as well (although David is flat footed).

And I'm thinking that if Plant wins here, Canelo will not give him another opportunity.

He might go directly with Bivol again, regardless if the weight is 168-175 lbs. Bivol is more willing to fight Canelo at this point for his legacy.

Yes, because that will be a new sight to see and aside from that, David actually got the upper hand between him and Plant (even if he's a flat footed). David already proved himself that his time has already come to have bite against the champion and Plant is the last hurdle before he can actually face Canelo. But if ever it turns out that Caleb Plant will be the winner here, there will no hype from him to chase Canelo because people are not expecting anything from him anymore. Straight fact, he's already done.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Caleb Plant vs David Benavidez
Post by: LUCKMCFLY on January 12, 2023, 01:29:33 AM
Well there is a new name popping around recently that Canelo is interested on fighting British contender John Ryder.

For sure it won't sit well on the winner of this fight, because we wanted if David Benavidez wins here, to fight Canelo. So it's a surprised if indeed Canelo will skip Bivol in his comeback fight and step aside the winner here and fight John Ryder.

I wouldn't be surprised though as we all know that Canelo is recovering from his injuries so he might as well take a light opponent first before taking either the winner of this fight or again avenge his defeat to Bivol.
For me, Canelo is really picking daisies and rose petals, first of all he wants to have a lot of attention, that's something obvious, just with what he did in the World Cup with Messi, I realized that what he wants is to have a lot of fame, but sometimes it seems to me something infallible what he does and that is not the right way, perhaps that is why 'Bivol does not want to give him a rematch because what Bivol wants is something more serious, he wants titles, he wants to promote, and obviously with Canelo he will only have a rematch , it will not give him more, on the contrary if Bivol loses, he will lose many of the things he has won, in part I understand what Bivol is. Plan and Benevidez are very different things, it is another case and things look different.

Eddie Hearn's idea is nuts. He wants Dmitry Bivol to drain down to 168 from 175. That is not going to happen anyway. Bivol will refuse it outright. He would rather stay at 175 and face Artur Beterbiev. The idea of being undisputed at both 168 and 175 may sound very promising, but I am sure that Bivol is intelligent enough to understand the trap that is being laid for him here. IMO, Canelo should focus on fighting John Ryder first, and after that he should fight the winner of the Caleb Plant vs David Benavidez match.

And Bivol hasn't fought in 168 lbs, he was a natural Light HW since the beginning of his career, so we know what Hearn or Canelo is thinking here, to drain Bivol in their rematch to get all the advantage and at least assure of them of a big win. So the ball is on the court of Bivol and his team, if they are going to succumb to the pressures or just simply look for other fight at 175 lbs.

And as I have said, if the Bivol fight is not going to happen, they will pick an easy fight and that could be John Ryder.

On the other hand, Plant vs Benavidez is not a snoozer, Plant's knockout of Dirrell is knockout of the year for me. So he will be riding on this momentum to have a big knockout win and repeat that act, if he can against David.

But Bivol won't be risking his title if he will fight Canelo at 168 lbs, the interesting question for this, is Canelo willing to risk his titles on the line just for the sake of getting a higher chance against Bivol? I don't think that's a good idea, really. They are saying that Bivol should visit Canelo at his division, but what if Bivol will agree and will make the weight.

They should just approach the rematch at Bivol's division and not the opposite because Canelo has nothing to lose anymore, it will be a money fight for their camp without any risks and Canelo will benefit either way as well because he will get a belt if he can pull a win in this rematch.

What if Bivol will do that and try snatching Canelo's belt? It's not by far since Bivol can take that weight and he can continue doing
the same fighting style or maybe he can be more fit.

I get your point and the possibility that Canelo will move up for the sake of money is higher, nothing to lose, but there's a huge
amount that in stake if he will take his chance to call for a rematch in the same weight level.

Let's see if how they will take that, but for the meantime let's move back to Caleb and Benavidez.

Well, I don't know, but apparently Canelo has once again given something to talk about, for his part, I don't even know if Bivol would give him a rematch, if he already went up and sees that it is convenient for him to fight Canelo, he will, otherwise I don't know if he accepts, he what he thinks is that he already beat him, so he has already passed that stage, he would have to have a lot of audience, a lot of demand to be able to fight with him and obviously they give him a lot of money, for his part now well with Benavidez And Caleb still have My doubts, I don't know who I could lean toward, some go squarely with Caleb, but due to everything he has said, there has been speculation, and in some boxing forums it is not clear to me when making a good bet.

Daily Bread Mailbag: Artur Beterbiev, Plant-Benavidez, Jaron Ennis, More

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The Daily Bread Mailbag returns with Stephen "Breadman" Edward tackling topics such as unified light heavyweight champion Artur Beterbiev, Caleb Plant vs. David Benavidez, Jaron Ennis, the WBC's direction on transgender athletes, and more.

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Title: Re: [Boxing]: Caleb Plant vs David Benavidez
Post by: Sithara007 on January 12, 2023, 03:40:15 AM
^^ Everyone here is inclined to see Benavidez vs Canelo, it will be a fresh challenge for the cash cow and so it will be interesting how he will deal with the youth of Benavidez and the speed and the power as well (although David is flat footed).

And I'm thinking that if Plant wins here, Canelo will not give him another opportunity.

He might go directly with Bivol again, regardless if the weight is 168-175 lbs. Bivol is more willing to fight Canelo at this point for his legacy.

I am not sure regarding Bivol. First of all, he is not happy about not receiving the purse for his fight against Canelo that happened last year. The payment was frozen as a result of US sanctions against Russian athletes and as far as I know Bivol hasn't received a penny yet. And secondly it is funny that Canelo wants Bivol to drain down to 168 lb. Why should Bivol do that? Canelo already lost to Bivol and now it is the former's responsibility to set up a re-match. I don't think that Bivol would agree to move the fight from 175 lb. The risk is too large and there is almost zero reward in offer.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Caleb Plant vs David Benavidez
Post by: Hypnosis00 on January 12, 2023, 05:20:37 AM
^^ Everyone here is inclined to see Benavidez vs Canelo, it will be a fresh challenge for the cash cow and so it will be interesting how he will deal with the youth of Benavidez and the speed and the power as well (although David is flat footed).

And I'm thinking that if Plant wins here, Canelo will not give him another opportunity.

He might go directly with Bivol again, regardless if the weight is 168-175 lbs. Bivol is more willing to fight Canelo at this point for his legacy.

I am not sure regarding Bivol. First of all, he is not happy about not receiving the purse for his fight against Canelo that happened last year. The payment was frozen as a result of US sanctions against Russian athletes and as far as I know Bivol hasn't received a penny yet. And secondly it is funny that Canelo wants Bivol to drain down to 168 lb. Why should Bivol do that? Canelo already lost to Bivol and now it is the former's responsibility to set up a re-match. I don't think that Bivol would agree to move the fight from 175 lb. The risk is too large and there is almost zero reward in offer.

By saying it's frozen, does it mean there's still a chance that they will give that winning at the right time? And about that sanction, is it still on until now? I know everyone wants to see a rematch between him and Canelo, but with that kind of sanctions, what kind of reward he will get if he wins?


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Caleb Plant vs David Benavidez
Post by: inthelongrun on January 12, 2023, 07:09:16 AM
Well there is a new name popping around recently that Canelo is interested on fighting British contender John Ryder.

For sure it won't sit well on the winner of this fight, because we wanted if David Benavidez wins here, to fight Canelo. So it's a surprised if indeed Canelo will skip Bivol in his comeback fight and step aside the winner here and fight John Ryder.

I wouldn't be surprised though as we all know that Canelo is recovering from his injuries so he might as well take a light opponent first before taking either the winner of this fight or again avenge his defeat to Bivol.
For me, Canelo is really picking daisies and rose petals, first of all he wants to have a lot of attention, that's something obvious, just with what he did in the World Cup with Messi, I realized that what he wants is to have a lot of fame, but sometimes it seems to me something infallible what he does and that is not the right way, perhaps that is why 'Bivol does not want to give him a rematch because what Bivol wants is something more serious, he wants titles, he wants to promote, and obviously with Canelo he will only have a rematch , it will not give him more, on the contrary if Bivol loses, he will lose many of the things he has won, in part I understand what Bivol is. Plan and Benevidez are very different things, it is another case and things look different.

Damn! No more John Ryder, please. Canelo already cherry-picked him before and the fight was not even close. If Canelo wants a tune-up, he should pick a new name, maybe someone undefeated but unproven at the higher level.

I read somewhere that after the tune-up, the plan is for Canelo to defend his undisputed belts against Bivol. Lately, Bivol already said that he is willing to drop down in weight for Canelo's undisputed belts at 168.

And I doubt that the corrupt WBC will strip the biggest name in boxing for not fighting the winner of Benavidez-Plant. These sanctioning belts especially the WBA and WBC are money first before following their rules. That is why they intentionally put special cases and exemptions in their own rules to cater to their interests. Bivol-Canelo rematch combined purse may be worth $60 million or more. A simple cut of 2% to 3% is over a million dollars. That's a lot of money for Mauricio Sulaiman to miss.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Caleb Plant vs David Benavidez
Post by: cryptomaniac_xxx on January 12, 2023, 07:19:42 AM
^^ Everyone here is inclined to see Benavidez vs Canelo, it will be a fresh challenge for the cash cow and so it will be interesting how he will deal with the youth of Benavidez and the speed and the power as well (although David is flat footed).

And I'm thinking that if Plant wins here, Canelo will not give him another opportunity.

He might go directly with Bivol again, regardless if the weight is 168-175 lbs. Bivol is more willing to fight Canelo at this point for his legacy.

I am not sure regarding Bivol. First of all, he is not happy about not receiving the purse for his fight against Canelo that happened last year. The payment was frozen as a result of US sanctions against Russian athletes and as far as I know Bivol hasn't received a penny yet. And secondly it is funny that Canelo wants Bivol to drain down to 168 lb. Why should Bivol do that? Canelo already lost to Bivol and now it is the former's responsibility to set up a re-match. I don't think that Bivol would agree to move the fight from 175 lb. The risk is too large and there is almost zero reward in offer.

Well the only reason that Bivol will fight Canelo at 168 lbs is that if there is a belt on the line.

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“Of course,” said Bivol when asked if he’d be willing to fight Canelo Alvarez at 168 for the rematch next September. “My weight right now is 185. Maximum, 190.”

“At least it would be a challenge for Dmitry and a motivation because if you did it again at 175, would it be interesting anymore?” “Yeah, it’s interesting to fight for belts. To fight at 168 for belts, it’s good. 175, he [Canelo] said, ‘It’s not my weight class,’ is the first thing I heard. Okay, it’s not your weight class. If you want a rematch, let’s talk about 168.

https://www.boxingnews24.com/2022/12/dmitry-bivol-still-wants-to-fight-canelo-for-his-168-lb-belts/

So the Russian want's a challenge, but as he had he is walking around 195 lbs, so that is a huge drop on weight for him if he will agree to fight Canelo at 168 lbs with Canelo's belt on the line. And he could be the only person to beat him twice in different weight categories.



Title: Re: [Boxing]: Caleb Plant vs David Benavidez
Post by: Baofeng on January 12, 2023, 10:10:27 PM
Well there is a new name popping around recently that Canelo is interested on fighting British contender John Ryder.

For sure it won't sit well on the winner of this fight, because we wanted if David Benavidez wins here, to fight Canelo. So it's a surprised if indeed Canelo will skip Bivol in his comeback fight and step aside the winner here and fight John Ryder.

I wouldn't be surprised though as we all know that Canelo is recovering from his injuries so he might as well take a light opponent first before taking either the winner of this fight or again avenge his defeat to Bivol.
For me, Canelo is really picking daisies and rose petals, first of all he wants to have a lot of attention, that's something obvious, just with what he did in the World Cup with Messi, I realized that what he wants is to have a lot of fame, but sometimes it seems to me something infallible what he does and that is not the right way, perhaps that is why 'Bivol does not want to give him a rematch because what Bivol wants is something more serious, he wants titles, he wants to promote, and obviously with Canelo he will only have a rematch , it will not give him more, on the contrary if Bivol loses, he will lose many of the things he has won, in part I understand what Bivol is. Plan and Benevidez are very different things, it is another case and things look different.

Damn! No more John Ryder, please. Canelo already cherry-picked him before and the fight was not even close. If Canelo wants a tune-up, he should pick a new name, maybe someone undefeated but unproven at the higher level.

I read somewhere that after the tune-up, the plan is for Canelo to defend his undisputed belts against Bivol. Lately, Bivol already said that he is willing to drop down in weight for Canelo's undisputed belts at 168.

True, Bivol said he is willing to go down to 168 lbs as long as Canelo will put his belt on the line for him. So maybe that is the greatness that Bivol is chasing then, for the money and for his legacy, beating 2x Canelo and then taking his super middle weight belt.

And I doubt that the corrupt WBC will strip the biggest name in boxing for not fighting the winner of Benavidez-Plant. These sanctioning belts especially the WBA and WBC are money first before following their rules. That is why they intentionally put special cases and exemptions in their own rules to cater to their interests. Bivol-Canelo rematch combined purse may be worth $60 million or more. A simple cut of 2% to 3% is over a million dollars. That's a lot of money for Mauricio Sulaiman to miss.

I also doubt that, Sulaiman has been Canelo dick in his mouth, and so he will get everything that Canelo requested. Remember that 2 years ago in their yearly WBC convention Canelo requested that he wants to go as to Cruiserweight and challenge Makabu, and without a heartbeat, Sulaiman says yes to the proposal although it didn't happen as Canelo chooses Bivol which backfire on him.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Caleb Plant vs David Benavidez
Post by: Kemarit on January 13, 2023, 01:11:42 AM
^^ Everyone here is inclined to see Benavidez vs Canelo, it will be a fresh challenge for the cash cow and so it will be interesting how he will deal with the youth of Benavidez and the speed and the power as well (although David is flat footed).

And I'm thinking that if Plant wins here, Canelo will not give him another opportunity.

He might go directly with Bivol again, regardless if the weight is 168-175 lbs. Bivol is more willing to fight Canelo at this point for his legacy.

Yes, because that will be a new sight to see and aside from that, David actually got the upper hand between him and Plant (even if he's a flat footed). David already proved himself that his time has already come to have bite against the champion and Plant is the last hurdle before he can actually face Canelo. But if ever it turns out that Caleb Plant will be the winner here, there will no hype from him to chase Canelo because people are not expecting anything from him anymore. Straight fact, he's already done.

Yes and that's what majority here wanted Benavidez to win against Caleb so that we will not see him against Canelo the second time around. And maybe Canelo will be motivated facing a young challenger in Benavidez for him. It's like turning the tide, now Canelo is the more experience one and some young challenger trying to get his belt. So hopefully all the scenario that we wanted to see will happen, David Benavidez winning with a statement, then Canelo willing to give him the chance.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Caleb Plant vs David Benavidez
Post by: bbc.reporter on January 13, 2023, 02:58:40 AM
@Boafeng, @bisdak and the other boxing experts in the forum. What would a victory bring for Benavidez? Does this make him the next mandatory challenger vs. Canelo Alvarez? There were some articles that mentioned Canelo wants a rematch vs. Bivol but Bivol wants a light heavyweight unification fight vs. Beterbiev. This might be head shaking and it might make it appear that Canelo is afraid to risk his championship status in a fight against Benavidez hehe.

What are your speculations or predictions?


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Caleb Plant vs David Benavidez
Post by: inthelongrun on January 13, 2023, 12:48:25 PM
And I doubt that the corrupt WBC will strip the biggest name in boxing for not fighting the winner of Benavidez-Plant. These sanctioning belts especially the WBA and WBC are money first before following their rules. That is why they intentionally put special cases and exemptions in their own rules to cater to their interests. Bivol-Canelo rematch combined purse may be worth $60 million or more. A simple cut of 2% to 3% is over a million dollars. That's a lot of money for Mauricio Sulaiman to miss.

I also doubt that, Sulaiman has been Canelo dick in his mouth, and so he will get everything that Canelo requested. Remember that 2 years ago in their yearly WBC convention Canelo requested that he wants to go as to Cruiserweight and challenge Makabu, and without a heartbeat, Sulaiman says yes to the proposal although it didn't happen as Canelo chooses Bivol which backfire on him.
As always. Sulaiman will do everything in the name of money. :D I actually wished it would've happened. Makabu is short in the division which is probably the reason why Canelo considered him but it also means the guy is bulky. Makabu is not that fast but he is heavy-handed. Maybe Canelo will lead in the scores but it's a 12-round fight. Sooner or later Makabu should be able to hit Canelo with some of his bombs because the Mexican is not that fast either. And I doubt Canelo can take bombs from a KO artist at cruiserweight.

@Boafeng, @bisdak and the other boxing experts in the forum. What would a victory bring for Benavidez? Does this make him the next mandatory challenger vs. Canelo Alvarez? There were some articles that mentioned Canelo wants a rematch vs. Bivol but Bivol wants a light heavyweight unification fight vs. Beterbiev. This might be head shaking and it might make it appear that Canelo is afraid to risk his championship status in a fight against Benavidez hehe.

What are your speculations or predictions?
I am not an expert but the WBC interim should be used only when the champion is injured or if the champion has a legit excuse. And Canelo was not injured nor has a valid excuse to defend his belts from his mandatories. Instead of issuing the interim belt, the WBC should've made Benavidez mandatory right away. This is a way of prolonging a mandatory on Canelo and allowing him to pick his fights. Benavidez no doubt has a legit claim on the belt since he was the former champion and only lost it because he failed to make the weight. And since he wants to remain in the same division, then the race for the sanctioning bodies to give him a high ranking or mandatory is on. And Benavidez is the 2nd biggest name in the division after Canelo. The interim allowed the WBC to take a grip on Benavidez (the WBC will take a cut on its purse), otherwise, the other sanctioning bodies (WBA, IBF, and WBO) will be the ones giving Benavidez an eliminator or an automatic mandatory.

Usually, the WBC is always accommodating to superstars because of the money they bring. And Canelo is one of them. There was a time though when the WBC under huge pressure from the boxing community finally issued Canelo to face GGG who's been campaigning to unify all 4 belts. The result was either Canelo was stripped or he voluntarily vacated the belt. We will see if the WBC will do that again. IMO, Benavidez is nowhere near the level of GGG's stardom which means the WBC will make a way to buy time if Canelo won't accept the mando. The excuse the WBC will use is probably Canelo's injury that he needs a tune-up and the next excuse is the rematch clause between Canelo and Bivol whom I believe is already expired and the contract was at 175 but the WBC will make it legit since Bivol agrees to the rematch at 168.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Caleb Plant vs David Benavidez
Post by: Baofeng on January 13, 2023, 09:20:17 PM
@Boafeng, @bisdak and the other boxing experts in the forum. What would a victory bring for Benavidez? Does this make him the next mandatory challenger vs. Canelo Alvarez? There were some articles that mentioned Canelo wants a rematch vs. Bivol but Bivol wants a light heavyweight unification fight vs. Beterbiev. This might be head shaking and it might make it appear that Canelo is afraid to risk his championship status in a fight against Benavidez hehe.

What are your speculations or predictions?

He has the interim belt at WBC, of course the regular belt is with Canelo right now. So it make sense that Canelo should give Plant that chance to fight for the regular WBC belt if he wins. But as Canelo said, he doesn't want to fight another Mexican so we will see how it goes, if Canelo is stubborn and doesn't want to give him that shot or vacate his belt instead. And if that scenario happens then Benavidez should be elevated as the regular champion then.

Bivol options could be (a) fight Canelo at 168 lbs, for all of Canelo's belt, (b) they go at it at 175 lbs, (c) wait for the Beterviev vs Yarde and fight the winner.

So the division is still a mess this early, too many scenario taking shape, so let's wait in March after this fight.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Caleb Plant vs David Benavidez
Post by: Dave1 on January 14, 2023, 02:08:09 AM
@Boafeng, @bisdak and the other boxing experts in the forum. What would a victory bring for Benavidez? Does this make him the next mandatory challenger vs. Canelo Alvarez? There were some articles that mentioned Canelo wants a rematch vs. Bivol but Bivol wants a light heavyweight unification fight vs. Beterbiev. This might be head shaking and it might make it appear that Canelo is afraid to risk his championship status in a fight against Benavidez hehe.

What are your speculations or predictions?

He has the interim belt at WBC, of course the regular belt is with Canelo right now. So it make sense that Canelo should give Plant that chance to fight for the regular WBC belt if he wins. But as Canelo said, he doesn't want to fight another Mexican so we will see how it goes, if Canelo is stubborn and doesn't want to give him that shot or vacate his belt instead. And if that scenario happens then Benavidez should be elevated as the regular champion then.

Bivol options could be (a) fight Canelo at 168 lbs, for all of Canelo's belt, (b) they go at it at 175 lbs, (c) wait for the Beterviev vs Yarde and fight the winner.

So the division is still a mess this early, too many scenario taking shape, so let's wait in March after this fight.

Yes, but we wanted to see Canelo first testing himself against David Benavidez, I don't buy the reason from him not fighting another Mexican, probably this is just an excuse from him if ever David wins here and then he avoided at all cost.

But the thing is that Canelo is the cash cow and so it's hard for this body to enforce their mandatory to him.

He will have his one way on who he is going to fight next, lucky Ryder if he will be chosen by Canelo as his next potential opponent next because his name is floating around.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Caleb Plant vs David Benavidez
Post by: Kemarit on January 14, 2023, 03:18:00 AM
@Boafeng, @bisdak and the other boxing experts in the forum. What would a victory bring for Benavidez? Does this make him the next mandatory challenger vs. Canelo Alvarez? There were some articles that mentioned Canelo wants a rematch vs. Bivol but Bivol wants a light heavyweight unification fight vs. Beterbiev. This might be head shaking and it might make it appear that Canelo is afraid to risk his championship status in a fight against Benavidez hehe.

What are your speculations or predictions?

He has the interim belt at WBC, of course the regular belt is with Canelo right now. So it make sense that Canelo should give Plant that chance to fight for the regular WBC belt if he wins. But as Canelo said, he doesn't want to fight another Mexican so we will see how it goes, if Canelo is stubborn and doesn't want to give him that shot or vacate his belt instead. And if that scenario happens then Benavidez should be elevated as the regular champion then.

Bivol options could be (a) fight Canelo at 168 lbs, for all of Canelo's belt, (b) they go at it at 175 lbs, (c) wait for the Beterviev vs Yarde and fight the winner.

So the division is still a mess this early, too many scenario taking shape, so let's wait in March after this fight.

Yes, but we wanted to see Canelo first testing himself against David Benavidez, I don't buy the reason from him not fighting another Mexican, probably this is just an excuse from him if ever David wins here and then he avoided at all cost.

But the thing is that Canelo is the cash cow and so it's hard for this body to enforce their mandatory to him.

He will have his one way on who he is going to fight next, lucky Ryder if he will be chosen by Canelo as his next potential opponent next because his name is floating around.

Canelo though might be changing his strategies as he is not getting old this year, he said that he wants to fight 3x a year but I doubt that it will happen since he has his hands broken already and that is not a good sign.

I know that all roads lead to him, but he will be very careful as who is going to face in his comeback fight, and yeah it could be Ryder first. And then wait for the outcome of this fight, whether it's a viable option for him or not to face a young Mexican in David Benavidez or hide in the reason that he doesn't want to fight a Mexican boxer next.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Caleb Plant vs David Benavidez
Post by: Ziskinberg on January 14, 2023, 07:20:11 AM
Canelo though might be changing his strategies as he is not getting old this year, he said that he wants to fight 3x a year but I doubt that it will happen since he has his hands broken already and that is not a good sign.

I know that all roads lead to him, but he will be very careful as who is going to face in his comeback fight, and yeah it could be Ryder first. And then wait for the outcome of this fight, whether it's a viable option for him or not to face a young Mexican in David Benavidez or hide in the reason that he doesn't want to fight a Mexican boxer next.

I believe the injury is not so serious, with enough time of healing he will be alright and will be back 100%. Canelo is definitely ready for challengers, and it's not a problem if he will only fights 2 times or even 1 time a year as we can assure you it will be a quality fight. Canelo is already 32 years old, not young enough but still capable, still in his prime IMO.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Caleb Plant vs David Benavidez
Post by: cryptomaniac_xxx on January 14, 2023, 08:26:38 AM
Canelo though might be changing his strategies as he is not getting old this year, he said that he wants to fight 3x a year but I doubt that it will happen since he has his hands broken already and that is not a good sign.

I know that all roads lead to him, but he will be very careful as who is going to face in his comeback fight, and yeah it could be Ryder first. And then wait for the outcome of this fight, whether it's a viable option for him or not to face a young Mexican in David Benavidez or hide in the reason that he doesn't want to fight a Mexican boxer next.

I believe the injury is not so serious, with enough time of healing he will be alright and will be back 100%. Canelo is definitely ready for challengers, and it's not a problem if he will only fights 2 times or even 1 time a year as we can assure you it will be a quality fight. Canelo is already 32 years old, not young enough but still capable, still in his prime IMO.

Well it should be considered series as it is the precious hands, obviously this is what the boxers uses to make money in this sports. So it has been damage already and there is a possibility that it might get hurt again if he lands in a awkward angle.

Just found out though that Canelo started boxing at the age of 15, so if he is 32 years old, then he is boxing half of his life already.

So who knows, he might be old for some boxers, but for sure he can still fight and probably have 2-3 years good in him.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Caleb Plant vs David Benavidez
Post by: Russlenat on January 14, 2023, 10:18:16 AM
Just found out though that Canelo started boxing at the age of 15, so if he is 32 years old, then he is boxing half of his life already.

So who knows, he might be old for some boxers, but for sure he can still fight and probably have 2-3 years good in him.

Most of the successful boxers starts boxing when they are still young, like Mayweather. 2-3 years? I think he still has more years, in fact, he is still dominating now, he only lose when he attempt to move up and challenge a champion, but in his division where he was an undisputed fighter, he is still the king.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Caleb Plant vs David Benavidez
Post by: Jawhead999 on January 14, 2023, 10:52:59 AM
Most of the successful boxers starts boxing when they are still young, like Mayweather. 2-3 years? I think he still has more years, in fact, he is still dominating now, he only lose when he attempt to move up and challenge a champion, but in his division where he was an undisputed fighter, he is still the king.
Yeah Canelo has a biggest reputation and popularity in this generation boxing career, he is very phenomenal compare to the other undisputed champion, I think it's because many people and boxing fans are really attracted to watch how Canelo's head movement, it's very satisfying how he can predict his opponent's punch


Anyway what's going on with this fight? there's no news about the official announcement and no improvement yet.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Caleb Plant vs David Benavidez
Post by: freedomgo on January 14, 2023, 05:43:17 PM
Well, I don't know, but apparently Canelo has once again given something to talk about, for his part, I don't even know if Bivol would give him a rematch, if he already went up and sees that it is convenient for him to fight Canelo, he will, otherwise I don't know if he accepts, he what he thinks is that he already beat him, so he has already passed that stage, he would have to have a lot of audience, a lot of demand to be able to fight with him and obviously they give him a lot of money, for his part now well with Benavidez And Caleb still have My doubts, I don't know who I could lean toward, some go squarely with Caleb, but due to everything he has said, there has been speculation, and in some boxing forums it is not clear to me when making a good bet.

Dmitry Bivol has no choice but to fight Canelo Alvarez again in a rematch once the latter will demand for a rematch because their contract has a rematch clause and who knows when will that expire but surely, Canelo still have the perks about the clause because their fight just happened last May 2022. As of now, we just don't know where will they contest the fight if Canelo chose to revive that clause. The winner of Benavidez-Plant might have to wait first because in the past discussion, it seems that Canelo's already fixed with getting the rematch because of course it's also a big payday.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Caleb Plant vs David Benavidez
Post by: stadus on January 14, 2023, 06:18:14 PM
^^ Everyone here is inclined to see Benavidez vs Canelo, it will be a fresh challenge for the cash cow and so it will be interesting how he will deal with the youth of Benavidez and the speed and the power as well (although David is flat footed).

And I'm thinking that if Plant wins here, Canelo will not give him another opportunity.

He might go directly with Bivol again, regardless if the weight is 168-175 lbs. Bivol is more willing to fight Canelo at this point for his legacy.

Yes, because that will be a new sight to see and aside from that, David actually got the upper hand between him and Plant (even if he's a flat footed). David already proved himself that his time has already come to have bite against the champion and Plant is the last hurdle before he can actually face Canelo. But if ever it turns out that Caleb Plant will be the winner here, there will no hype from him to chase Canelo because people are not expecting anything from him anymore. Straight fact, he's already done.

Yes and that's what majority here wanted Benavidez to win against Caleb so that we will not see him against Canelo the second time around. And maybe Canelo will be motivated facing a young challenger in Benavidez for him. It's like turning the tide, now Canelo is the more experience one and some young challenger trying to get his belt. So hopefully all the scenario that we wanted to see will happen, David Benavidez winning with a statement, then Canelo willing to give him the chance.

Canelo ask for this that's why the kid was really dedicated to work his way to face Canelo in the championship rounds, as I remember, David's father asked Canelo to give his son a chance but at that time, Canelo wasn't interested because the kid hasn't proved anything yet. So, this time, if Benavidez defeats Caleb with a bang, maybe Canelo will stand his words and give the kid some priority.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Caleb Plant vs David Benavidez
Post by: Baofeng on January 14, 2023, 10:28:06 PM
There is no official announcement yet of this fight, but the two are still going at it at their social media accounts which lead me to believed that this fight is going to happen. They are talking about the March date, so maybe the 2nd or 3rd week of that month.

However, it can still push thru if they haven't settled down small things like the size of the ring, and weight of the gloves and others. Hopefully we can hear it officially before the end of this month.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Caleb Plant vs David Benavidez
Post by: AmoreJaz on January 14, 2023, 10:34:16 PM
There is no official announcement yet of this fight, but the two are still going at it at their social media accounts which lead me to believed that this fight is going to happen. They are talking about the March date, so maybe the 2nd or 3rd week of that month.

However, it can still push thru if they haven't settled down small things like the size of the ring, and weight of the gloves and others. Hopefully we can hear it officially before the end of this month.

maybe, they are talking so the interest won't die down among boxing fans. they need to earn from this fight so they should make sure there's hype for this match. sometimes the delay is owed to purse split if both camps don't agree with their share. but in any case, if they feel they are ready to rumble, their promoters will publish the date.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Caleb Plant vs David Benavidez
Post by: Dave1 on January 15, 2023, 12:26:59 AM
@Boafeng, @bisdak and the other boxing experts in the forum. What would a victory bring for Benavidez? Does this make him the next mandatory challenger vs. Canelo Alvarez? There were some articles that mentioned Canelo wants a rematch vs. Bivol but Bivol wants a light heavyweight unification fight vs. Beterbiev. This might be head shaking and it might make it appear that Canelo is afraid to risk his championship status in a fight against Benavidez hehe.

What are your speculations or predictions?

He has the interim belt at WBC, of course the regular belt is with Canelo right now. So it make sense that Canelo should give Plant that chance to fight for the regular WBC belt if he wins. But as Canelo said, he doesn't want to fight another Mexican so we will see how it goes, if Canelo is stubborn and doesn't want to give him that shot or vacate his belt instead. And if that scenario happens then Benavidez should be elevated as the regular champion then.

Bivol options could be (a) fight Canelo at 168 lbs, for all of Canelo's belt, (b) they go at it at 175 lbs, (c) wait for the Beterviev vs Yarde and fight the winner.

So the division is still a mess this early, too many scenario taking shape, so let's wait in March after this fight.

Yes, but we wanted to see Canelo first testing himself against David Benavidez, I don't buy the reason from him not fighting another Mexican, probably this is just an excuse from him if ever David wins here and then he avoided at all cost.

But the thing is that Canelo is the cash cow and so it's hard for this body to enforce their mandatory to him.

He will have his one way on who he is going to fight next, lucky Ryder if he will be chosen by Canelo as his next potential opponent next because his name is floating around.

Canelo though might be changing his strategies as he is not getting old this year, he said that he wants to fight 3x a year but I doubt that it will happen since he has his hands broken already and that is not a good sign.

I know that all roads lead to him, but he will be very careful as who is going to face in his comeback fight, and yeah it could be Ryder first. And then wait for the outcome of this fight, whether it's a viable option for him or not to face a young Mexican in David Benavidez or hide in the reason that he doesn't want to fight a Mexican boxer next.

He is still in his prime, and will not slow down, although he might want to test that hand as it is brittle already or there is a big chance of getting it injured as times goes by. And he still possessed that mentality that he can beat anyone at specially at his most comfortable weight of 168 lbs and that's why he wants to challenge Bivol at this weight and Bivol says that he is ok with it as long as this fight will be for the undisputed belt that Canelo holds.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Caleb Plant vs David Benavidez
Post by: LUCKMCFLY on January 16, 2023, 12:29:04 AM
Most of the successful boxers starts boxing when they are still young, like Mayweather. 2-3 years? I think he still has more years, in fact, he is still dominating now, he only lose when he attempt to move up and challenge a champion, but in his division where he was an undisputed fighter, he is still the king.
Yeah Canelo has a biggest reputation and popularity in this generation boxing career, he is very phenomenal compare to the other undisputed champion, I think it's because many people and boxing fans are really attracted to watch how Canelo's head movement, it's very satisfying how he can predict his opponent's punch


Anyway what's going on with this fight? there's no news about the official announcement and no improvement yet.
Well, this makes me curious because since Canelo made his announcement that he wanted to fight Inoue, and he did it in a way that is not the most correct, because the most ethical way is to wait for his previous fight to end to say something like that, because obviously He implied that he was going to win the previous fight, so the way he did it was not widely seen, but what can we expect? Canelo is like that, nothing can be evaded, if we start to see a possible fight between the two it would be interesting, but what will happen when Inoue beats Canelo well? because that can happen, how would he react? Does he want to ask for a revenge? just as he is doing with Bivol!?

Dmitry Bivol: 2022 was a good year for me but my dream is to be the undisputed champ

https://i.imgur.com/FDQ08nR.png

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WBA light heavyweight titleholder Dmitry Bivol solidified his outstanding 2022 by dominating previously unbeaten Gilberto Ramirez over 12 rounds in November. That title defense came after a similar performance shocked then pound-for-pound king Canelo Alvarez in May. Both wins helped earn Bivol The Ring’s 2022 Fighter of The Year award.

Bivol, The Ring’s No. 1-rated light heavyweight and No. 6 in the pound for pound rankings, was happy with how things went against Ramirez in Abu Dhabi.

Source: https://www.ringtv.com/648620-dmitry-bivol-2022-was-a-good-year-for-me-but-my-dream-is-to-be-the-undisputed-champ/ (https://www.ringtv.com/648620-dmitry-bivol-2022-was-a-good-year-for-me-but-my-dream-is-to-be-the-undisputed-champ/)


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Caleb Plant vs David Benavidez
Post by: Jating on January 16, 2023, 06:22:50 AM
There is no official announcement yet of this fight, but the two are still going at it at their social media accounts which lead me to believed that this fight is going to happen. They are talking about the March date, so maybe the 2nd or 3rd week of that month.

However, it can still push thru if they haven't settled down small things like the size of the ring, and weight of the gloves and others. Hopefully we can hear it officially before the end of this month.

maybe, they are talking so the interest won't die down among boxing fans. they need to earn from this fight so they should make sure there's hype for this match. sometimes the delay is owed to purse split if both camps don't agree with their share. but in any case, if they feel they are ready to rumble, their promoters will publish the date.

I agree, they really need to sit down and talk about this fight, the hype has been building for years for this two to square in the ring. And then with a spectacular knockout of the year from Caleb Plant.

They need to settle in the middle if those small things are to be settled.

Most probably Caleb Plant is playing mind games with David and his team regarding his request of a bigger size arena so that he can run from David's power punches. But then when the fight happen, Caleb will have a different game plan.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Caleb Plant vs David Benavidez
Post by: Japinat on January 16, 2023, 04:15:03 PM
Canelo though might be changing his strategies as he is not getting old this year, he said that he wants to fight 3x a year but I doubt that it will happen since he has his hands broken already and that is not a good sign.

I know that all roads lead to him, but he will be very careful as who is going to face in his comeback fight, and yeah it could be Ryder first. And then wait for the outcome of this fight, whether it's a viable option for him or not to face a young Mexican in David Benavidez or hide in the reason that he doesn't want to fight a Mexican boxer next.

I believe the injury is not so serious, with enough time of healing he will be alright and will be back 100%. Canelo is definitely ready for challengers, and it's not a problem if he will only fights 2 times or even 1 time a year as we can assure you it will be a quality fight. Canelo is already 32 years old, not young enough but still capable, still in his prime IMO.

I cannot really say that it wasn't that serious because Canelo still had to go surgery just to bring his wrist back to normal, I bet the the doctors were already saying that he needed the surgery after his fight with Bivol because he's already aching at that time and when he fought with GGG afterwards, his wrist has gotten more worse than what he endured during the Bivol fight. Anyway, the good news is Canelo's hand is looking fine and he needed to test the waters first and fight Ryder to see if it's indeed recovered.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Caleb Plant vs David Benavidez
Post by: Baofeng on January 16, 2023, 11:36:42 PM
Canelo though might be changing his strategies as he is not getting old this year, he said that he wants to fight 3x a year but I doubt that it will happen since he has his hands broken already and that is not a good sign.

I know that all roads lead to him, but he will be very careful as who is going to face in his comeback fight, and yeah it could be Ryder first. And then wait for the outcome of this fight, whether it's a viable option for him or not to face a young Mexican in David Benavidez or hide in the reason that he doesn't want to fight a Mexican boxer next.

I believe the injury is not so serious, with enough time of healing he will be alright and will be back 100%. Canelo is definitely ready for challengers, and it's not a problem if he will only fights 2 times or even 1 time a year as we can assure you it will be a quality fight. Canelo is already 32 years old, not young enough but still capable, still in his prime IMO.

I cannot really say that it wasn't that serious because Canelo still had to go surgery just to bring his wrist back to normal, I bet the the doctors were already saying that he needed the surgery after his fight with Bivol because he's already aching at that time and when he fought with GGG afterwards, his wrist has gotten more worse than what he endured during the Bivol fight. Anyway, the good news is Canelo's hand is looking fine and he needed to test the waters first and fight Ryder to see if it's indeed recovered.

This is not the first time though that Canelo's hand has been injured, Alvarez fractured his right thumb during his fight against Liam Smith, but it didn't require any surgery that time, he had to rest it for 6 weeks if I'm not mistaken.

But this time, it was not just the thumb, but it's the wrist that is hurting, and yeah he had this prior to the 3rd installment fight with GGG, so he is suffering from multiple hand injuries throughout the years and say that he couldn't deal with it anymore so the best course of action is to hand his surgically repaired. Reports says that they have removed the cast already and doing rehab now and see the extend, whether he can throw power punches in the mitt without his hands hurting. It was his left hand btw, that powerful left hook.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Caleb Plant vs David Benavidez
Post by: btc_angela on January 17, 2023, 11:09:53 AM
Canelo though might be changing his strategies as he is not getting old this year, he said that he wants to fight 3x a year but I doubt that it will happen since he has his hands broken already and that is not a good sign.

I know that all roads lead to him, but he will be very careful as who is going to face in his comeback fight, and yeah it could be Ryder first. And then wait for the outcome of this fight, whether it's a viable option for him or not to face a young Mexican in David Benavidez or hide in the reason that he doesn't want to fight a Mexican boxer next.

I believe the injury is not so serious, with enough time of healing he will be alright and will be back 100%. Canelo is definitely ready for challengers, and it's not a problem if he will only fights 2 times or even 1 time a year as we can assure you it will be a quality fight. Canelo is already 32 years old, not young enough but still capable, still in his prime IMO.

I cannot really say that it wasn't that serious because Canelo still had to go surgery just to bring his wrist back to normal, I bet the the doctors were already saying that he needed the surgery after his fight with Bivol because he's already aching at that time and when he fought with GGG afterwards, his wrist has gotten more worse than what he endured during the Bivol fight. Anyway, the good news is Canelo's hand is looking fine and he needed to test the waters first and fight Ryder to see if it's indeed recovered.

This is not the first time though that Canelo's hand has been injured, Alvarez fractured his right thumb during his fight against Liam Smith, but it didn't require any surgery that time, he had to rest it for 6 weeks if I'm not mistaken.

But this time, it was not just the thumb, but it's the wrist that is hurting, and yeah he had this prior to the 3rd installment fight with GGG, so he is suffering from multiple hand injuries throughout the years and say that he couldn't deal with it anymore so the best course of action is to hand his surgically repaired. Reports says that they have removed the cast already and doing rehab now and see the extend, whether he can throw power punches in the mitt without his hands hurting. It was his left hand btw, that powerful left hook.

It is has been injured multiple times already, and in the last time he needs to have hit repaired through operations, then it might be really that damaged and so he needs to rehabilitated longer than usual I reckon.

Because it could reoccured anytime even during the fight itself. But if Canelo is a warrior, he will go and fight not the John Ryder that we are have heard he will be facing next.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Caleb Plant vs David Benavidez
Post by: yazher on January 17, 2023, 01:42:07 PM

maybe, they are talking so the interest won't die down among boxing fans. they need to earn from this fight so they should make sure there's hype for this match. sometimes the delay is owed to purse split if both camps don't agree with their share. but in any case, if they feel they are ready to rumble, their promoters will publish the date.

Nowadays, they really need to hyp the fight before even setting a date for their fight. how strange it turns out right now for the boxing industry and this is because of how others make some huge money from boxing and everyone wants to have that kind of fight where they can earn as much as they can because after all, it was their body and their reputation they putting in the table, that's why they want to have everything set before going for a fight. the old days of boxing are over and most likely right now they fight because of money, so they need to make a fuss and get loud so that they will become a trend just before their fight.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Caleb Plant vs David Benavidez
Post by: freedomgo on January 17, 2023, 07:53:18 PM
Dmitry Bivol Backing David Benavidez In Caleb Plant Clash (https://www.boxingscene.com/dmitry-bivol-backing-david-benavidez-caleb-plant-clash--171797)

Even the WBA champion (LHW) Dmitry Bivol is backing the young blood and somehow certain that David will prevail in this fight. Although, Bivol himself admitted that his choice was quite biased because he and David had a bond in the past where they sparred with each other but the thing is, Bivol witnessed what this kid has that made him believe that he can ultimately defeat Caleb Plant.

How about you guys, got any thoughts about this? Anyway, I hope this fight will listed officially and won't be one of the good fights that will not materialize.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Caleb Plant vs David Benavidez
Post by: Dave1 on January 18, 2023, 02:48:10 AM
Dmitry Bivol Backing David Benavidez In Caleb Plant Clash (https://www.boxingscene.com/dmitry-bivol-backing-david-benavidez-caleb-plant-clash--171797)

Even the WBA champion (LHW) Dmitry Bivol is backing the young blood and somehow certain that David will prevail in this fight. Although, Bivol himself admitted that his choice was quite biased because he and David had a bond in the past where they sparred with each other but the thing is, Bivol witnessed what this kid has that made him believe that he can ultimately defeat Caleb Plant.

How about you guys, got any thoughts about this? Anyway, I hope this fight will listed officially and won't be one of the good fights that will not materialize.

I guess if we look at the votes, it's David that is the clear favorite for us boxing fans in our community. I mean it's a smart  thing to do, to vote and then bet on the young guy because he has been chasing this kind of fights and wanted to show that he has the tools to become a future champion.

So I believed as well the David will win against Caleb, but it will be a very hard fight for his young career and he will be tested here.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Caleb Plant vs David Benavidez
Post by: Japinat on January 18, 2023, 08:23:24 PM
Canelo though might be changing his strategies as he is not getting old this year, he said that he wants to fight 3x a year but I doubt that it will happen since he has his hands broken already and that is not a good sign.

I know that all roads lead to him, but he will be very careful as who is going to face in his comeback fight, and yeah it could be Ryder first. And then wait for the outcome of this fight, whether it's a viable option for him or not to face a young Mexican in David Benavidez or hide in the reason that he doesn't want to fight a Mexican boxer next.

I believe the injury is not so serious, with enough time of healing he will be alright and will be back 100%. Canelo is definitely ready for challengers, and it's not a problem if he will only fights 2 times or even 1 time a year as we can assure you it will be a quality fight. Canelo is already 32 years old, not young enough but still capable, still in his prime IMO.

I cannot really say that it wasn't that serious because Canelo still had to go surgery just to bring his wrist back to normal, I bet the the doctors were already saying that he needed the surgery after his fight with Bivol because he's already aching at that time and when he fought with GGG afterwards, his wrist has gotten more worse than what he endured during the Bivol fight. Anyway, the good news is Canelo's hand is looking fine and he needed to test the waters first and fight Ryder to see if it's indeed recovered.

This is not the first time though that Canelo's hand has been injured, Alvarez fractured his right thumb during his fight against Liam Smith, but it didn't require any surgery that time, he had to rest it for 6 weeks if I'm not mistaken.

But this time, it was not just the thumb, but it's the wrist that is hurting, and yeah he had this prior to the 3rd installment fight with GGG, so he is suffering from multiple hand injuries throughout the years and say that he couldn't deal with it anymore so the best course of action is to hand his surgically repaired. Reports says that they have removed the cast already and doing rehab now and see the extend, whether he can throw power punches in the mitt without his hands hurting. It was his left hand btw, that powerful left hook.

Yes, it was Canelo's left wrist, so it will be critical for him if he jumps to a heavy boxer directly. Just like what I said above and Eddie Hearn, even if Canelo's hands will show some positive outcome to the evaluation, he still needed someone to test his hands. Hence, why he's having a tune-up fight before deciding who will he pick next, the winner of this fight or a rematch with Bivol.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Caleb Plant vs David Benavidez
Post by: LUCKMCFLY on January 18, 2023, 11:37:30 PM
^^ Everyone here is inclined to see Benavidez vs Canelo, it will be a fresh challenge for the cash cow and so it will be interesting how he will deal with the youth of Benavidez and the speed and the power as well (although David is flat footed).

And I'm thinking that if Plant wins here, Canelo will not give him another opportunity.

He might go directly with Bivol again, regardless if the weight is 168-175 lbs. Bivol is more willing to fight Canelo at this point for his legacy.

I am not sure regarding Bivol. First of all, he is not happy about not receiving the purse for his fight against Canelo that happened last year. The payment was frozen as a result of US sanctions against Russian athletes and as far as I know Bivol hasn't received a penny yet. And secondly it is funny that Canelo wants Bivol to drain down to 168 lb. Why should Bivol do that? Canelo already lost to Bivol and now it is the former's responsibility to set up a re-match. I don't think that Bivol would agree to move the fight from 175 lb. The risk is too large and there is almost zero reward in offer.

Well the only reason that Bivol will fight Canelo at 168 lbs is that if there is a belt on the line.

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“Of course,” said Bivol when asked if he’d be willing to fight Canelo Alvarez at 168 for the rematch next September. “My weight right now is 185. Maximum, 190.”

“At least it would be a challenge for Dmitry and a motivation because if you did it again at 175, would it be interesting anymore?” “Yeah, it’s interesting to fight for belts. To fight at 168 for belts, it’s good. 175, he [Canelo] said, ‘It’s not my weight class,’ is the first thing I heard. Okay, it’s not your weight class. If you want a rematch, let’s talk about 168.

https://www.boxingnews24.com/2022/12/dmitry-bivol-still-wants-to-fight-canelo-for-his-168-lb-belts/

So the Russian want's a challenge, but as he had he is walking around 195 lbs, so that is a huge drop on weight for him if he will agree to fight Canelo at 168 lbs with Canelo's belt on the line. And he could be the only person to beat him twice in different weight categories.



I was wondering that, but seeing that Bivol is only looking for other objectives, he is not taking Canelo seriously, Canelo is a boxer who always seeks to have more fame, I really don't know what Cnelo is looking for, I can understand Bivol that he wants to have more titles, belts, something that makes him rise in rank, more in category, Bivol is like a more mature boxer, he is clear that having more titles and more belts will face the best boxers in the world, and that his The fights will be more famous, money will come out of nowhere, and without much effort, the worst thing that could have happened to Canelo is to have lost to Bivol.

Canelo though might be changing his strategies as he is not getting old this year, he said that he wants to fight 3x a year but I doubt that it will happen since he has his hands broken already and that is not a good sign.

I know that all roads lead to him, but he will be very careful as who is going to face in his comeback fight, and yeah it could be Ryder first. And then wait for the outcome of this fight, whether it's a viable option for him or not to face a young Mexican in David Benavidez or hide in the reason that he doesn't want to fight a Mexican boxer next.

I believe the injury is not so serious, with enough time of healing he will be alright and will be back 100%. Canelo is definitely ready for challengers, and it's not a problem if he will only fights 2 times or even 1 time a year as we can assure you it will be a quality fight. Canelo is already 32 years old, not young enough but still capable, still in his prime IMO.

I cannot really say that it wasn't that serious because Canelo still had to go surgery just to bring his wrist back to normal, I bet the the doctors were already saying that he needed the surgery after his fight with Bivol because he's already aching at that time and when he fought with GGG afterwards, his wrist has gotten more worse than what he endured during the Bivol fight. Anyway, the good news is Canelo's hand is looking fine and he needed to test the waters first and fight Ryder to see if it's indeed recovered.

The truth is that hand surgery or something related to hand surgery is very delicate, at least where I live those who are specialists in it are few, the same as those in brain surgery, because it is very complicated, I should have done it if I fell the She did should rest because these operations are very delicate, I would not really be challenging anyone until I feel completely well, at least 6 months is indicated, because afterward it can cause permanent damage and I know that it is serious. However, a boxer is not going to take much into account the guidelines given by a doctor, just because it is a way to take advantage of every opportunity in the fight.

Interesting:

Breadman: "I'm Confident That Caleb Plant Can Knock Anybody Out"

https://i.imgur.com/DNuRhxn.png

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By and large, Caleb Plant has used his otherworldly boxing skills to avoid the oncoming onslaught of an opponent’s attack, while peppering his man with just enough offense to pick up the victory. However, following his 11-round stoppage defeat at the hands of Canelo Alvarez in November of 2021, Plant has ostensibly flipped a switch.

With the help of world-renowned trainer, Stephen “Breadman” Edwards, Plant (22-1, 13 KOs) seemed more daring and audacious during his showdown against Anthony Dirrell on October 15th. On the night, after lulling the former two-time WBC super middleweight belt holder to sleep, Plant uncorked a pernicious left hand, one that saw Dirrell’s lifeless body hit the canvas for a protracted amount of time.

Source: https://www.boxingscene.com/breadman-im-confident-caleb-plant-knock-anybody-out--171838 (https://www.boxingscene.com/breadman-im-confident-caleb-plant-knock-anybody-out--171838)


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Caleb Plant vs David Benavidez
Post by: Kemarit on January 19, 2023, 02:56:46 AM
^^ I'm still not totally sold of Plant's knockout power or what his training has been doing on him. He is not known to have one punch ko as far as I know. He just caught Anthony Dirrell very cleanly with that punch and so he goes down hard and was not able to come back from the canvass. And no offense to Dirrell, but he look shot already and way past his prime in my opinion. They just glorified Plant now as someone who has a one punch knockout artist but he is not. Against Benavidez, it might be different though as Benavidez has the advantage as far as power goes, IMHO.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Caleb Plant vs David Benavidez
Post by: Ziskinberg on January 19, 2023, 04:09:31 AM
^^ I'm still not totally sold of Plant's knockout power or what his training has been doing on him. He is not known to have one punch ko as far as I know. He just caught Anthony Dirrell very cleanly with that punch and so he goes down hard and was not able to come back from the canvass. And no offense to Dirrell, but he look shot already and way past his prime in my opinion. They just glorified Plant now as someone who has a one punch knockout artist but he is not. Against Benavidez, it might be different though as Benavidez has the advantage as far as power goes, IMHO.
True, of the 22 fights he had, he only had 13 KO's, so we cannot consider him as a KO artist.
https://boxrec.com/en/proboxer/684493

That also depends on his opponent, and against Benavidez, I doubt he would win by KO, maybe the complete opposite will happen if he will not be careful. He losses against Canelo, so we can say he is not really that great, just an average boxer IMO.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Caleb Plant vs David Benavidez
Post by: Baofeng on January 19, 2023, 10:40:40 AM
Quick update, according to reports, the official date for this fight is March 25.

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BoxingScene.com has learned that Benavidez and Plant will fight March 25 at MGM Grand Garden Arena in Las Vegas. Phoenix’s Benavidez (26-0, 23 KOs) and Plant (22-1, 13 KOs), a native of Ashland City, Tennessee, jointly announced through their social media accounts November 3 that they agreed to contractual terms.

https://www.boxingscene.com/david-benavidez-caleb-plant-ppv-fight-set-march-25-mgm-grand-las-vegas--171895

So it's going to be a big fight, as it will be held in MGM in Vegas, good week for boxing then and for gamblers alike as they can travel to Vegas that weekend to support their boy in this fight.

However, the odds are still not listed on our favorite sports bookies, but I'm seeing Benavidez as a slight favorite here.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Caleb Plant vs David Benavidez
Post by: cryptomaniac_xxx on January 19, 2023, 11:04:30 AM
^^ I'm still not totally sold of Plant's knockout power or what his training has been doing on him. He is not known to have one punch ko as far as I know. He just caught Anthony Dirrell very cleanly with that punch and so he goes down hard and was not able to come back from the canvass. And no offense to Dirrell, but he look shot already and way past his prime in my opinion. They just glorified Plant now as someone who has a one punch knockout artist but he is not. Against Benavidez, it might be different though as Benavidez has the advantage as far as power goes, IMHO.
True, of the 22 fights he had, he only had 13 KO's, so we cannot consider him as a KO artist.
https://boxrec.com/en/proboxer/684493

That also depends on his opponent, and against Benavidez, I doubt he would win by KO, maybe the complete opposite will happen if he will not be careful. He losses against Canelo, so we can say he is not really that great, just an average boxer IMO.

Yeah, the level of opposition and when he steps up against a great boxer, he losses to Canelo. So I would agree that he could be define as just a average boxer, although his trainer wanted to put like he suddenly becomes a monster, and a knockout artist which is not.

On the contrary, David Benavidez has 26 fights and 23 by knockout = 88.46%.

Now that is the definition of a knockout artist as per his record.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Caleb Plant vs David Benavidez
Post by: LUCKMCFLY on January 19, 2023, 03:30:13 PM
^^ Everyone here is inclined to see Benavidez vs Canelo, it will be a fresh challenge for the cash cow and so it will be interesting how he will deal with the youth of Benavidez and the speed and the power as well (although David is flat footed).

And I'm thinking that if Plant wins here, Canelo will not give him another opportunity.

He might go directly with Bivol again, regardless if the weight is 168-175 lbs. Bivol is more willing to fight Canelo at this point for his legacy.

Yes, because that will be a new sight to see and aside from that, David actually got the upper hand between him and Plant (even if he's a flat footed). David already proved himself that his time has already come to have bite against the champion and Plant is the last hurdle before he can actually face Canelo. But if ever it turns out that Caleb Plant will be the winner here, there will no hype from him to chase Canelo because people are not expecting anything from him anymore. Straight fact, he's already done.

Yes and that's what majority here wanted Benavidez to win against Caleb so that we will not see him against Canelo the second time around. And maybe Canelo will be motivated facing a young challenger in Benavidez for him. It's like turning the tide, now Canelo is the more experience one and some young challenger trying to get his belt. So hopefully all the scenario that we wanted to see will happen, David Benavidez winning with a statement, then Canelo willing to give him the chance.

For that reason alone, I would like Benavidez to win, because now Caenlo is looking for the fight against Bivol, but until Canelo has something to offer Bivl as a belt or a title, he is no longer interested, that is what what Bivol wants, if this young Benavidez manages to do the feat, I would like to see this challenge that he will undoubtedly do, but if and only if he wins, otherwise I see it as very difficult, however some of us appeal that the young people can surprise and If Canelo achieves the feat, the mere fact of possibly beating him is something that would open many doors for him, and I still think that even Bivol would want to fight him.




Bivol's support for Caleb:

Dmitry Bivol Backing David Benavidez In Caleb Plant Clash

https://i.imgur.com/q6LE4Om.png

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Caleb Plant vs. David Benavidez hasn't formally been announced, but that hasn't stopped both boxers from claiming that their showdown is signed, sealed, and delivered.

By and large, outside of Canelo Alvarez, both Plant and Benavidez are regarded as the two most skilled fighters in the entire super middleweight division. With the winner of their 168-pound clash ostensibly next in line to face Alvarez, and considering their long-running feud, countless names outside of their division are patiently waiting for the final outcome.

Source: https://www.boxingscene.com/dmitry-bivol-backing-david-benavidez-caleb-plant-clash--171797 (https://www.boxingscene.com/dmitry-bivol-backing-david-benavidez-caleb-plant-clash--171797)


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Caleb Plant vs David Benavidez
Post by: Japinat on January 19, 2023, 06:23:46 PM
Canelo though might be changing his strategies as he is not getting old this year, he said that he wants to fight 3x a year but I doubt that it will happen since he has his hands broken already and that is not a good sign.

I know that all roads lead to him, but he will be very careful as who is going to face in his comeback fight, and yeah it could be Ryder first. And then wait for the outcome of this fight, whether it's a viable option for him or not to face a young Mexican in David Benavidez or hide in the reason that he doesn't want to fight a Mexican boxer next.

I believe the injury is not so serious, with enough time of healing he will be alright and will be back 100%. Canelo is definitely ready for challengers, and it's not a problem if he will only fights 2 times or even 1 time a year as we can assure you it will be a quality fight. Canelo is already 32 years old, not young enough but still capable, still in his prime IMO.

I cannot really say that it wasn't that serious because Canelo still had to go surgery just to bring his wrist back to normal, I bet the the doctors were already saying that he needed the surgery after his fight with Bivol because he's already aching at that time and when he fought with GGG afterwards, his wrist has gotten more worse than what he endured during the Bivol fight. Anyway, the good news is Canelo's hand is looking fine and he needed to test the waters first and fight Ryder to see if it's indeed recovered.

The truth is that hand surgery or something related to hand surgery is very delicate, at least where I live those who are specialists in it are few, the same as those in brain surgery, because it is very complicated, I should have done it if I fell the She did should rest because these operations are very delicate, I would not really be challenging anyone until I feel completely well, at least 6 months is indicated, because afterward it can cause permanent damage and I know that it is serious. However, a boxer is not going to take much into account the guidelines given by a doctor, just because it is a way to take advantage of every opportunity in the fight.

Interesting:

Breadman: "I'm Confident That Caleb Plant Can Knock Anybody Out"

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By and large, Caleb Plant has used his otherworldly boxing skills to avoid the oncoming onslaught of an opponent’s attack, while peppering his man with just enough offense to pick up the victory. However, following his 11-round stoppage defeat at the hands of Canelo Alvarez in November of 2021, Plant has ostensibly flipped a switch.

With the help of world-renowned trainer, Stephen “Breadman” Edwards, Plant (22-1, 13 KOs) seemed more daring and audacious during his showdown against Anthony Dirrell on October 15th. On the night, after lulling the former two-time WBC super middleweight belt holder to sleep, Plant uncorked a pernicious left hand, one that saw Dirrell’s lifeless body hit the canvas for a protracted amount of time.

Source: https://www.boxingscene.com/breadman-im-confident-caleb-plant-knock-anybody-out--171838 (https://www.boxingscene.com/breadman-im-confident-caleb-plant-knock-anybody-out--171838)


Canelo doesn't have the liberty to rest that long because I think there's a timetable in when can they only pursue the rematch with Bivol (although I'm not really sure about this but I think there's only a time limit) anyway, correct me if I'm wrong about this. Nevertheless, I really do agree with your sentiment because Canelo would lose everything if incase he'll be chasing diamonds in rush because his wrist might be the payment.

Back to the topic, I respect Stephen Breadman's perspective towards this fight and we all have our own bias and perspective in this bout. Still, I'm not that convinced that Caleb will be the one who will be smiling at the end.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Caleb Plant vs David Benavidez
Post by: freedomgo on January 19, 2023, 06:28:49 PM
Dmitry Bivol Backing David Benavidez In Caleb Plant Clash (https://www.boxingscene.com/dmitry-bivol-backing-david-benavidez-caleb-plant-clash--171797)

Even the WBA champion (LHW) Dmitry Bivol is backing the young blood and somehow certain that David will prevail in this fight. Although, Bivol himself admitted that his choice was quite biased because he and David had a bond in the past where they sparred with each other but the thing is, Bivol witnessed what this kid has that made him believe that he can ultimately defeat Caleb Plant.

How about you guys, got any thoughts about this? Anyway, I hope this fight will listed officially and won't be one of the good fights that will not materialize.

I guess if we look at the votes, it's David that is the clear favorite for us boxing fans in our community. I mean it's a smart  thing to do, to vote and then bet on the young guy because he has been chasing this kind of fights and wanted to show that he has the tools to become a future champion.

So I believed as well the David will win against Caleb, but it will be a very hard fight for his young career and he will be tested here.

Besides, it will be a lot more interesting if we can see some new faces challenging Canelo Alvarez's throne and this David indeed got some real talent and IQ compared to what Caleb had shown when he had the chance to upset Canelo. I mean, it's not that I am underestimating Caleb Plant, it's just that I'm more inclined to see what David can do because Caleb already had his chance and I don't expect anymore from him to make a difference.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Caleb Plant vs David Benavidez
Post by: carlisle1 on January 19, 2023, 08:07:38 PM
Dmitry Bivol Backing David Benavidez In Caleb Plant Clash (https://www.boxingscene.com/dmitry-bivol-backing-david-benavidez-caleb-plant-clash--171797)

Even the WBA champion (LHW) Dmitry Bivol is backing the young blood and somehow certain that David will prevail in this fight. Although, Bivol himself admitted that his choice was quite biased because he and David had a bond in the past where they sparred with each other but the thing is, Bivol witnessed what this kid has that made him believe that he can ultimately defeat Caleb Plant.

How about you guys, got any thoughts about this? Anyway, I hope this fight will listed officially and won't be one of the good fights that will not materialize.

I guess if we look at the votes, it's David that is the clear favorite for us boxing fans in our community. I mean it's a smart  thing to do, to vote and then bet on the young guy because he has been chasing this kind of fights and wanted to show that he has the tools to become a future champion.

So I believed as well the David will win against Caleb, but it will be a very hard fight for his young career and he will be tested here.

Besides, it will be a lot more interesting if we can see some new faces challenging Canelo Alvarez's throne and this David indeed got some real talent and IQ compared to what Caleb had shown when he had the chance to upset Canelo. I mean, it's not that I am underestimating Caleb Plant, it's just that I'm more inclined to see what David can do because Caleb already had his chance and I don't expect anymore from him to make a difference.

New face to challenge Canelo if in-case he will beat Plant, I believe that fans will love seeing Canelo fighting with another challenger in his
own division, unlike with Bivol's rematch inside this division Canelo doesn't need to adjust.

Still too early to conclude the outcome and with both fighters are preparing we can say that as of now they have equal chance in winning.

All will only be decided once we hear the announcer calling the name of the winner either KO or UD.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Caleb Plant vs David Benavidez
Post by: Kemarit on January 20, 2023, 04:05:50 AM
^^ I'm still not totally sold of Plant's knockout power or what his training has been doing on him. He is not known to have one punch ko as far as I know. He just caught Anthony Dirrell very cleanly with that punch and so he goes down hard and was not able to come back from the canvass. And no offense to Dirrell, but he look shot already and way past his prime in my opinion. They just glorified Plant now as someone who has a one punch knockout artist but he is not. Against Benavidez, it might be different though as Benavidez has the advantage as far as power goes, IMHO.
True, of the 22 fights he had, he only had 13 KO's, so we cannot consider him as a KO artist.
https://boxrec.com/en/proboxer/684493

That also depends on his opponent, and against Benavidez, I doubt he would win by KO, maybe the complete opposite will happen if he will not be careful. He losses against Canelo, so we can say he is not really that great, just an average boxer IMO.

Yes, again, we appreciate him getting the knockout of the year against Dirrell, it was the timing and it was really perfect. But that is the first time that he won with that statement knockout against someone and then now we think he is a great KO boxer which is not. As you have said, he is just an average boxer who gets the job done the last time. But Benavidez is strong and maybe he is the one who is going to sleep on the canvass this March 25.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Caleb Plant vs David Benavidez
Post by: btc_angela on January 20, 2023, 10:00:59 AM
Dmitry Bivol Backing David Benavidez In Caleb Plant Clash (https://www.boxingscene.com/dmitry-bivol-backing-david-benavidez-caleb-plant-clash--171797)

Even the WBA champion (LHW) Dmitry Bivol is backing the young blood and somehow certain that David will prevail in this fight. Although, Bivol himself admitted that his choice was quite biased because he and David had a bond in the past where they sparred with each other but the thing is, Bivol witnessed what this kid has that made him believe that he can ultimately defeat Caleb Plant.

How about you guys, got any thoughts about this? Anyway, I hope this fight will listed officially and won't be one of the good fights that will not materialize.

I guess if we look at the votes, it's David that is the clear favorite for us boxing fans in our community. I mean it's a smart  thing to do, to vote and then bet on the young guy because he has been chasing this kind of fights and wanted to show that he has the tools to become a future champion.

So I believed as well the David will win against Caleb, but it will be a very hard fight for his young career and he will be tested here.

Besides, it will be a lot more interesting if we can see some new faces challenging Canelo Alvarez's throne and this David indeed got some real talent and IQ compared to what Caleb had shown when he had the chance to upset Canelo. I mean, it's not that I am underestimating Caleb Plant, it's just that I'm more inclined to see what David can do because Caleb already had his chance and I don't expect anymore from him to make a difference.

Yeah, it might be boring for Canelo to face Caleb Plant again, he knows how Caleb is, despite him knocking his last opponent. So for us, David is the better option for Canelo next. But we shall see, I read that Eddie Hearn is talking to Ryder and Canelo side to make the fight.

And since the fight is lock now, it's time for David to show what he is capable of against Caleb.

Maybe after he won, and calls out Alvarez, we shall see if Canelo will fight him next or go to an easy tune up fight against John Ryder.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Caleb Plant vs David Benavidez
Post by: Yamifoud on January 20, 2023, 12:31:51 PM

And since the fight is lock now, it's time for David to show what he is capable of against Caleb.

Maybe after he won, and calls out Alvarez, we shall see if Canelo will fight him next or go to an easy tune up fight against John Ryder.

Canelo is not that kind of a fighter, he would not go on a easy route, in fact, he tried to move up in weight and fight a champion, so I'm expecting that he will use his time very well and that being said, he will fight the winner of this bout.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Caleb Plant vs David Benavidez
Post by: inthelongrun on January 20, 2023, 12:51:24 PM
Quick update, according to reports, the official date for this fight is March 25.

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BoxingScene.com has learned that Benavidez and Plant will fight March 25 at MGM Grand Garden Arena in Las Vegas. Phoenix’s Benavidez (26-0, 23 KOs) and Plant (22-1, 13 KOs), a native of Ashland City, Tennessee, jointly announced through their social media accounts November 3 that they agreed to contractual terms.

https://www.boxingscene.com/david-benavidez-caleb-plant-ppv-fight-set-march-25-mgm-grand-las-vegas--171895

So it's going to be a big fight, as it will be held in MGM in Vegas, good week for boxing then and for gamblers alike as they can travel to Vegas that weekend to support their boy in this fight.

However, the odds are still not listed on our favorite sports bookies, but I'm seeing Benavidez as a slight favorite here.

Good thing the fight is happening in a neutral venue. And Arizona fans of Benavidez can travel and enjoy the weekend in Vegas since it is only a few-hour drive or probably an hour by plane.

I haven't seen nor checked the odds too and I agree that the younger and undefeated Benavidez will be the favorite here. My prediction is Benavidez will be the favorite at 1.50+/- something. It's interesting if Plant's slickness can survive the aggression and powerful punches of Benavidez. I am now rooting for Plant and hopefully, he can get a win over this arrogant kid. Although, the experts' pick here will be by Benavidez KO/TKO.

And to our boxing fans, don't forget to watch this weekend the defense of unified champion Artur Beterbiev against Anthony Yarde in London, England.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Caleb Plant vs David Benavidez
Post by: carlisle1 on January 20, 2023, 01:32:58 PM

And since the fight is lock now, it's time for David to show what he is capable of against Caleb.

Maybe after he won, and calls out Alvarez, we shall see if Canelo will fight him next or go to an easy tune up fight against John Ryder.

Canelo is not that kind of a fighter, he would not go on a easy route, in fact, he tried to move up in weight and fight a champion, so I'm expecting that he will use his time very well and that being said, he will fight the winner of this bout.

Canelo is knows the value of his name, and the route that he will go probably if where the money at, we all know this man
and he's always getting huge portions of the money.

But I'm expecting him to give the winner a chance and face him, a good way to defend his belt and make him still the top fighter from this division.

Waiting for the winner of this fight and see if what will be the next update.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Caleb Plant vs David Benavidez
Post by: Shamm on January 20, 2023, 02:05:40 PM

And since the fight is lock now, it's time for David to show what he is capable of against Caleb.

Maybe after he won, and calls out Alvarez, we shall see if Canelo will fight him next or go to an easy tune up fight against John Ryder.

Canelo is not that kind of a fighter, he would not go on a easy route, in fact, he tried to move up in weight and fight a champion, so I'm expecting that he will use his time very well and that being said, he will fight the winner of this bout.

Canelo is knows the value of his name, and the route that he will go probably if where the money at, we all know this man
and he's always getting huge portions of the money.

But I'm expecting him to give the winner a chance and face him, a good way to defend his belt and make him still the top fighter from this division.

Waiting for the winner of this fight and see if what will be the next update.

The winner of this fight will be a good match up to canelo alvarez and we all know that canelo for sure will fight it because he need to defend his title and once he successfully defend then he will be king of his division. But before that this match caleb plant vs David Benavidez will face and aiming for the win to continues their career and be a champion if they can defeat the top of their division .


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Caleb Plant vs David Benavidez
Post by: Botnake on January 20, 2023, 02:06:40 PM

And since the fight is lock now, it's time for David to show what he is capable of against Caleb.

Maybe after he won, and calls out Alvarez, we shall see if Canelo will fight him next or go to an easy tune up fight against John Ryder.

Canelo is not that kind of a fighter, he would not go on a easy route, in fact, he tried to move up in weight and fight a champion, so I'm expecting that he will use his time very well and that being said, he will fight the winner of this bout.

Canelo is knows the value of his name, and the route that he will go probably if where the money at, we all know this man
and he's always getting huge portions of the money.

But I'm expecting him to give the winner a chance and face him, a good way to defend his belt and make him still the top fighter from this division.

Waiting for the winner of this fight and see if what will be the next update.

That's what I thought as well, Canelo is going to fight the winner which I think will be Benavidez. And this fight is more exciting to watch as we haven't seen them fight before, unlike Canelo fighting Plant which we already saw how he dismantled him in round 11 when they met.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Caleb Plant vs David Benavidez
Post by: Cling18 on January 20, 2023, 03:48:13 PM

And since the fight is lock now, it's time for David to show what he is capable of against Caleb.

Maybe after he won, and calls out Alvarez, we shall see if Canelo will fight him next or go to an easy tune up fight against John Ryder.

Canelo is not that kind of a fighter, he would not go on a easy route, in fact, he tried to move up in weight and fight a champion, so I'm expecting that he will use his time very well and that being said, he will fight the winner of this bout.

Canelo is knows the value of his name, and the route that he will go probably if where the money at, we all know this man
and he's always getting huge portions of the money.

But I'm expecting him to give the winner a chance and face him, a good way to defend his belt and make him still the top fighter from this division.

Waiting for the winner of this fight and see if what will be the next update.

That's what I thought as well, Canelo is going to fight the winner which I think will be Benavidez. And this fight is more exciting to watch as we haven't seen them fight before, unlike Canelo fighting Plant which we already saw how he dismantled him in round 11 when they met.

Benavidez should do his best to win this match though it will be a tough and challenging match for him to face plant. He must show off his real strength so he could possibly face Canelo in the future. I believe that Benavidez still has a lot to prove so it will be a good chance for him to showcase his real capability in the ring. It will be an exciting match and I hope this would happen early this year.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Caleb Plant vs David Benavidez
Post by: Russlenat on January 21, 2023, 07:35:35 PM

And since the fight is lock now, it's time for David to show what he is capable of against Caleb.

Maybe after he won, and calls out Alvarez, we shall see if Canelo will fight him next or go to an easy tune up fight against John Ryder.

Canelo is not that kind of a fighter, he would not go on a easy route, in fact, he tried to move up in weight and fight a champion, so I'm expecting that he will use his time very well and that being said, he will fight the winner of this bout.

Well, the truth is, Canelo Alvarez's situation now is somehow complicated because he just got his wrist done by a way of surgery. It is not that we're supposed to underestimate him because his next fight will likely be with John Ryder but he and his camp got a reason because Canelo needed an evaluation of his wrist to ensure that the tissues aren't that heavily affected, that said, he needed to take a tune-up fight with Ryder before fighting anyone else that got heavier name to see how will his wrist response with the fight first.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Caleb Plant vs David Benavidez
Post by: cryptomaniac_xxx on January 21, 2023, 09:16:36 PM

And since the fight is lock now, it's time for David to show what he is capable of against Caleb.

Maybe after he won, and calls out Alvarez, we shall see if Canelo will fight him next or go to an easy tune up fight against John Ryder.

Canelo is not that kind of a fighter, he would not go on a easy route, in fact, he tried to move up in weight and fight a champion, so I'm expecting that he will use his time very well and that being said, he will fight the winner of this bout.

Well, the truth is, Canelo Alvarez's situation now is somehow complicated because he just got his wrist done by a way of surgery. It is not that we're supposed to underestimate him because his next fight will likely be with John Ryder but he and his camp got a reason because Canelo needed an evaluation of his wrist to ensure that the tissues aren't that heavily affected, that said, he needed to take a tune-up fight with Ryder before fighting anyone else that got heavier name to see how will his wrist response with the fight first.

Yes, I was about to say that, we all know that he had this Mexican Warrior mentality, facing challenges, but let's face it, he is not getting any younger and that's why he has this injury needed to be repaired. So it's not that it's 100%, it has been injured and at times, it could be broken again or it will hurt.

And that's why his camp is keen on fighting a tune up first to see how wrist and his hands, specially the injured hand is his left, the bread and butter left hook of his. So fighting somewhat a B-boxer wouldn't hurt this career. And on the contrary it might help him and his team re-assess that hand of his.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Caleb Plant vs David Benavidez
Post by: Vaculin on January 22, 2023, 05:25:20 PM

And since the fight is lock now, it's time for David to show what he is capable of against Caleb.

Maybe after he won, and calls out Alvarez, we shall see if Canelo will fight him next or go to an easy tune up fight against John Ryder.

Canelo is not that kind of a fighter, he would not go on a easy route, in fact, he tried to move up in weight and fight a champion, so I'm expecting that he will use his time very well and that being said, he will fight the winner of this bout.

Canelo is knows the value of his name, and the route that he will go probably if where the money at, we all know this man
and he's always getting huge portions of the money.

But I'm expecting him to give the winner a chance and face him, a good way to defend his belt and make him still the top fighter from this division.

Waiting for the winner of this fight and see if what will be the next update.

That's what I thought as well, Canelo is going to fight the winner which I think will be Benavidez. And this fight is more exciting to watch as we haven't seen them fight before, unlike Canelo fighting Plant which we already saw how he dismantled him in round 11 when they met.

Benavidez should do his best to win this match though it will be a tough and challenging match for him to face plant. He must show off his real strength so he could possibly face Canelo in the future. I believe that Benavidez still has a lot to prove so it will be a good chance for him to showcase his real capability in the ring. It will be an exciting match and I hope this would happen early this year.

David already got skills and I trust that his prowess can take him up to a much higher league where he can own either one of the 4 belts or even became the new undisputed, although, saying this is quite premature for now as he's still up for a tough challenge where he has to beat Caleb Plant. He indeed got to impress the whole boxing industry in this fight because Plant will be his ticket to lock a fight with Canelo.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Caleb Plant vs David Benavidez
Post by: LUCKMCFLY on January 24, 2023, 03:33:57 PM
Well, I don't know, but apparently Canelo has once again given something to talk about, for his part, I don't even know if Bivol would give him a rematch, if he already went up and sees that it is convenient for him to fight Canelo, he will, otherwise I don't know if he accepts, he what he thinks is that he already beat him, so he has already passed that stage, he would have to have a lot of audience, a lot of demand to be able to fight with him and obviously they give him a lot of money, for his part now well with Benavidez And Caleb still have My doubts, I don't know who I could lean toward, some go squarely with Caleb, but due to everything he has said, there has been speculation, and in some boxing forums it is not clear to me when making a good bet.

Dmitry Bivol has no choice but to fight Canelo Alvarez again in a rematch once the latter will demand for a rematch because their contract has a rematch clause and who knows when will that expire but surely, Canelo still have the perks about the clause because their fight just happened last May 2022. As of now, we just don't know where will they contest the fight if Canelo chose to revive that clause. The winner of Benavidez-Plant might have to wait first because in the past discussion, it seems that Canelo's already fixed with getting the rematch because of course it's also a big payday.

Well in these cases, I think that Canelo, all the noise he makes is quite impressive, I have seen news about Canelo everywhere, he talks a lot on his networks, apart from that he is very courageous because he needs the revenge fight against Bivol a lot, but I think The Russian will delay that fight as much as possible, it is very obvious that the Russian does not want to fight him again, if he does he will be forced and that is something that I think no one likes, however I think there is a lot to It can happen here, the fight between Benavidez and Plant will also be important for the boxer Cnelo, everything is a matter of waiting.

Everything is ready for March, there is nothing more to say:

Caleb Plant-David Benavidez Set For March

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Former super middleweight world titlist Caleb Plant will be facing David Benavidez in the main event of a March 25th Showtime pay per view card. The fight, which will reportedly go down at the MGM Grand in Vegas, has long been expected. Indeed, Plant reported late last year that the match had been signed. Still, an actual date and location provides the public with a needed sense of certainty. This is boxing, after all, a sport where anything can’t happen (that wasn’t a typo).

Source: https://www.boxinginsider.com/headlines/caleb-plant-david-benavidez-set-for-march/ (https://www.boxinginsider.com/headlines/caleb-plant-david-benavidez-set-for-march/)


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Caleb Plant vs David Benavidez
Post by: Yaunfitda on January 24, 2023, 06:32:48 PM

And since the fight is lock now, it's time for David to show what he is capable of against Caleb.

Maybe after he won, and calls out Alvarez, we shall see if Canelo will fight him next or go to an easy tune up fight against John Ryder.

Canelo is not that kind of a fighter, he would not go on a easy route, in fact, he tried to move up in weight and fight a champion, so I'm expecting that he will use his time very well and that being said, he will fight the winner of this bout.

Canelo is knows the value of his name, and the route that he will go probably if where the money at, we all know this man
and he's always getting huge portions of the money.

But I'm expecting him to give the winner a chance and face him, a good way to defend his belt and make him still the top fighter from this division.

Waiting for the winner of this fight and see if what will be the next update.

That's what I thought as well, Canelo is going to fight the winner which I think will be Benavidez. And this fight is more exciting to watch as we haven't seen them fight before, unlike Canelo fighting Plant which we already saw how he dismantled him in round 11 when they met.

Benavidez should do his best to win this match though it will be a tough and challenging match for him to face plant. He must show off his real strength so he could possibly face Canelo in the future. I believe that Benavidez still has a lot to prove so it will be a good chance for him to showcase his real capability in the ring. It will be an exciting match and I hope this would happen early this year.

David already got skills and I trust that his prowess can take him up to a much higher league where he can own either one of the 4 belts or even became the new undisputed, although, saying this is quite premature for now as he's still up for a tough challenge where he has to beat Caleb Plant. He indeed got to impress the whole boxing industry in this fight because Plant will be his ticket to lock a fight with Canelo.
That could be his main goal here, at least get 1 belt and then fight Canelo in the future (assuming Canelo is willing). David Benavidez is very young and has talent, so it's promising to see this kind of fighter trying to challenge Canelo in his division.

Plant is no pushover himself, but I guess he is just a over hype fighter when he face Canelo back then because we thought that he has a good chance against Canelo. But he was broken down. So this might be the case here, when he feel the power of Benavidez, he might broke down as well and maybe David will go for a knockout win.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Caleb Plant vs David Benavidez
Post by: freedomgo on January 25, 2023, 07:22:06 PM

David already got skills and I trust that his prowess can take him up to a much higher league where he can own either one of the 4 belts or even became the new undisputed, although, saying this is quite premature for now as he's still up for a tough challenge where he has to beat Caleb Plant. He indeed got to impress the whole boxing industry in this fight because Plant will be his ticket to lock a fight with Canelo.
That could be his main goal here, at least get 1 belt and then fight Canelo in the future (assuming Canelo is willing). David Benavidez is very young and has talent, so it's promising to see this kind of fighter trying to challenge Canelo in his division.

Plant is no pushover himself, but I guess he is just a over hype fighter when he face Canelo back then because we thought that he has a good chance against Canelo. But he was broken down. So this might be the case here, when he feel the power of Benavidez, he might broke down as well and maybe David will go for a knockout win.

What belt? Canelo Alvarez is the last waypoint as he possess all four belts hence why he is the undisputed boxer at 168 lbs.

Whether they like or not, one of them will have to face Canelo Alvarez after this fight but for Caleb, I don't think he got something that would upset the undisputed. But for David, the kid got something that would be interesting to see in front of Canelo and remember, the kid's dream is to fight Canelo.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Caleb Plant vs David Benavidez
Post by: LUCKMCFLY on January 27, 2023, 01:49:08 AM
Seeing all this, how the son has developed I cannot fail to mention that Canelo is the protagonist, not only because of his way of being in which he always attracts attention, also in the way these boxers are preparing and I know that everyone wants a fight with Canlelo to snatch a belt, title or something that he can offer them, I think that Canelo should start training very hard, because these two, both Benavidez and Plant, are not playing with toy cars, whoever comes out the winner One of them will undoubtedly look to fight him and if Canelo loses it would be very disastrous because he wants to fight the best fights now, his reputation would be greatly affected.

David Benavidez: I promise I’m going to knock out Caleb Plant

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David Benavidez’s fight with Caleb Plant is now fully official for March 25 on Showtime pay-per-view, with the fight taking place at Las Vegas’ MGM Grand Garden Arena, and the unbeaten super middleweight is promising a knockout finish.

“I’ve been working my ass off like never before. This is my moment in life where I get to show why I am the best super middleweight in the world, and that’s exactly what all my fans will see,” Benavidez wrote on social media.

“I promise all my fans I’m going to knock out Caleb Plant. Y’all ain’t gonna want to miss this one.”

Benavidez (26-0, 23 KO) will surely be the betting favorite (DraftKings don’t have a line up just yet, but should soon with the fight now officially set), but Plant (22-1, 13 KO) is definitely his best opponent to date on paper. That can’t really be said the other way, but the only opponent Plant has had who comes close to Benavidez on paper is Canelo Alvarez, who stopped Plant in the 11th round in late 2021.


Source: https://www.badlefthook.com/2023/1/26/23573078/david-benavidez-i-promise-im-going-knock-out-caleb-plant-boxing-news-2023 (https://www.badlefthook.com/2023/1/26/23573078/david-benavidez-i-promise-im-going-knock-out-caleb-plant-boxing-news-2023)



Title: Re: [Boxing]: Caleb Plant vs David Benavidez
Post by: Kemarit on January 27, 2023, 03:29:44 AM
^^ I like the confidence of Benavidez here, he is not backing down to any challenge as he has been chasing for this big fight for a long time. On the other hand, Caleb Plant is also confident as he is riding from that huge win, a knockout of the year.

So gonna be interesting how the fight will turn out to be. And also this fight hangs what the future will bring to the young David.

He wanted to fight Saul Alvarez next, and this is his ticket for the big one, better be a statement win because all his trash talking will back fire if he can't back it up against Caleb Plant.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Caleb Plant vs David Benavidez
Post by: freedomgo on January 27, 2023, 06:19:42 PM
David Benavidez: I promise I’m going to knock out Caleb Plant

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David Benavidez’s fight with Caleb Plant is now fully official for March 25 on Showtime pay-per-view, with the fight taking place at Las Vegas’ MGM Grand Garden Arena, and the unbeaten super middleweight is promising a knockout finish.

“I’ve been working my ass off like never before. This is my moment in life where I get to show why I am the best super middleweight in the world, and that’s exactly what all my fans will see,” Benavidez wrote on social media.

“I promise all my fans I’m going to knock out Caleb Plant. Y’all ain’t gonna want to miss this one.”

Benavidez (26-0, 23 KO) will surely be the betting favorite (DraftKings don’t have a line up just yet, but should soon with the fight now officially set), but Plant (22-1, 13 KO) is definitely his best opponent to date on paper. That can’t really be said the other way, but the only opponent Plant has had who comes close to Benavidez on paper is Canelo Alvarez, who stopped Plant in the 11th round in late 2021.


Source: https://www.badlefthook.com/2023/1/26/23573078/david-benavidez-i-promise-im-going-knock-out-caleb-plant-boxing-news-2023 (https://www.badlefthook.com/2023/1/26/23573078/david-benavidez-i-promise-im-going-knock-out-caleb-plant-boxing-news-2023)



Seems that all spotlight is aiming towards David Benavidez now, I just hope he won't get blinded by the light and will still stood his ground about his goal so that he could face Canelo Alvarez in the near future. Honestly, I'm really not a fan of a boxer who will bark first before showing some proof and saying that he will knockout and defeat in a mere (figure) rounds. What I want to see is how will David prove his existence in this category so that he will be favored to fight the undisputed.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Caleb Plant vs David Benavidez
Post by: carlisle1 on January 28, 2023, 04:30:18 AM
^^ I like the confidence of Benavidez here, he is not backing down to any challenge as he has been chasing for this big fight for a long time. On the other hand, Caleb Plant is also confident as he is riding from that huge win, a knockout of the year.

So gonna be interesting how the fight will turn out to be. And also this fight hangs what the future will bring to the young David.

He wanted to fight Saul Alvarez next, and this is his ticket for the big one, better be a statement win because all his trash talking will back fire if he can't back it up against Caleb Plant.

He will be tested with that strong statement he needs to prove that in action, it's easy to say something but proving it will be a tough
assignment, Caleb is not an easy access to reach his dream fight.

A former champ who only got his first lost with Alvarez, something that Benavidez needs to prepare more harder to beat him up.

I like to see both of them proving those words that they've thrown, a big test to who will be the next challenger for Alvarez, unless Saul
will decline the challenge.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Caleb Plant vs David Benavidez
Post by: Jawhead999 on January 28, 2023, 09:28:41 AM
Seems that all spotlight is aiming towards David Benavidez now, I just hope he won't get blinded by the light and will still stood his ground about his goal so that he could face Canelo Alvarez in the near future. Honestly, I'm really not a fan of a boxer who will bark first before showing some proof and saying that he will knockout and defeat in a mere (figure) rounds. What I want to see is how will David prove his existence in this category so that he will be favored to fight the undisputed.
Either Plant or Benavidez, each of them saying he will knock out his opponent :D But IIRC Plant was saying it first, but now it's Benavidez turn. Both of them talking too much, usually when the boxer is really self confident by saying he will win via knock out, he's the one who get knock out by his opponent :P

Benavidez's KO rate is really high, it's better for Plant to prepare more and shut up his mouth before he can beat Benavidez.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Caleb Plant vs David Benavidez
Post by: TravelMug on January 28, 2023, 09:37:47 AM
Seems that all spotlight is aiming towards David Benavidez now, I just hope he won't get blinded by the light and will still stood his ground about his goal so that he could face Canelo Alvarez in the near future. Honestly, I'm really not a fan of a boxer who will bark first before showing some proof and saying that he will knockout and defeat in a mere (figure) rounds. What I want to see is how will David prove his existence in this category so that he will be favored to fight the undisputed.
Either Plant or Benavidez, each of them saying he will knock out his opponent :D But IIRC Plant was saying it first, but now it's Benavidez turn. Both of them talking too much, usually when the boxer is really self confident by saying he will win via knock out, he's the one who get knock out by his opponent :P

Benavidez's KO rate is really high, it's better for Plant to prepare more and shut up his mouth before he can beat Benavidez.

Maybe they really hate each other that much that's why they want to knock each other out. Specially that somewhat Plant has suddenly found his range and his power so he is going to trash talk and says that he is also going for the killer left hook.

But we all know that Benavidez record speaks for itself, he is the knockout artist between the two. And his power might be too much for Plant to handle.  I think Benavidez is one of the hardest puncher in this division.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Caleb Plant vs David Benavidez
Post by: Distinctin on January 28, 2023, 07:18:33 PM
^^ I like the confidence of Benavidez here, he is not backing down to any challenge as he has been chasing for this big fight for a long time. On the other hand, Caleb Plant is also confident as he is riding from that huge win, a knockout of the year.

So gonna be interesting how the fight will turn out to be. And also this fight hangs what the future will bring to the young David.

He wanted to fight Saul Alvarez next, and this is his ticket for the big one, better be a statement win because all his trash talking will back fire if he can't back it up against Caleb Plant.

He will be tested with that strong statement he needs to prove that in action, it's easy to say something but proving it will be a tough
assignment, Caleb is not an easy access to reach his dream fight.

A former champ who only got his first lost with Alvarez, something that Benavidez needs to prepare more harder to beat him up.

I like to see both of them proving those words that they've thrown, a big test to who will be the next challenger for Alvarez, unless Saul
will decline the challenge.

Yes, it is really quite a huge statement from a young boxer who aspires to be a champion in this weight class and although he's still up against a huge challenge, I believe and I'm pretty confident that he can manage well against the former IBF World Champion, Caleb Plant. Moreover, this will be a good warm up fight for David and will provide a strong statement that he is ready to fight the undisputed champion who's more stronger and faster.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Caleb Plant vs David Benavidez
Post by: Baofeng on January 29, 2023, 11:35:29 PM
^^ I like the confidence of Benavidez here, he is not backing down to any challenge as he has been chasing for this big fight for a long time. On the other hand, Caleb Plant is also confident as he is riding from that huge win, a knockout of the year.

So gonna be interesting how the fight will turn out to be. And also this fight hangs what the future will bring to the young David.

He wanted to fight Saul Alvarez next, and this is his ticket for the big one, better be a statement win because all his trash talking will back fire if he can't back it up against Caleb Plant.

He will be tested with that strong statement he needs to prove that in action, it's easy to say something but proving it will be a tough
assignment, Caleb is not an easy access to reach his dream fight.

A former champ who only got his first lost with Alvarez, something that Benavidez needs to prepare more harder to beat him up.

I like to see both of them proving those words that they've thrown, a big test to who will be the next challenger for Alvarez, unless Saul
will decline the challenge.

Yes, it is really quite a huge statement from a young boxer who aspires to be a champion in this weight class and although he's still up against a huge challenge, I believe and I'm pretty confident that he can manage well against the former IBF World Champion, Caleb Plant. Moreover, this will be a good warm up fight for David and will provide a strong statement that he is ready to fight the undisputed champion who's more stronger and faster.

I think he knows that he has the advantage in this fight that's why he is making a huge statement in public. His knockout record speaks for itself as he is leaving a trail of knockout wins. Yes, we can say it like that, to face the man who Canelo has beaten already, so it's a good measuring stick for us to see if he has really the talent to go after Canelo at this point in his career. So David should impose and big statement win to get the attention of Alvarez and potential showdown in the near future. As Canelo will probably rematch Bivol first.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Caleb Plant vs David Benavidez
Post by: LUCKMCFLY on February 01, 2023, 02:08:05 PM
Canelo though might be changing his strategies as he is not getting old this year, he said that he wants to fight 3x a year but I doubt that it will happen since he has his hands broken already and that is not a good sign.

I know that all roads lead to him, but he will be very careful as who is going to face in his comeback fight, and yeah it could be Ryder first. And then wait for the outcome of this fight, whether it's a viable option for him or not to face a young Mexican in David Benavidez or hide in the reason that he doesn't want to fight a Mexican boxer next.

I believe the injury is not so serious, with enough time of healing he will be alright and will be back 100%. Canelo is definitely ready for challengers, and it's not a problem if he will only fights 2 times or even 1 time a year as we can assure you it will be a quality fight. Canelo is already 32 years old, not young enough but still capable, still in his prime IMO.

I cannot really say that it wasn't that serious because Canelo still had to go surgery just to bring his wrist back to normal, I bet the the doctors were already saying that he needed the surgery after his fight with Bivol because he's already aching at that time and when he fought with GGG afterwards, his wrist has gotten more worse than what he endured during the Bivol fight. Anyway, the good news is Canelo's hand is looking fine and he needed to test the waters first and fight Ryder to see if it's indeed recovered.

The truth is that hand surgery or something related to hand surgery is very delicate, at least where I live those who are specialists in it are few, the same as those in brain surgery, because it is very complicated, I should have done it if I fell the She did should rest because these operations are very delicate, I would not really be challenging anyone until I feel completely well, at least 6 months is indicated, because afterward it can cause permanent damage and I know that it is serious. However, a boxer is not going to take much into account the guidelines given by a doctor, just because it is a way to take advantage of every opportunity in the fight.

Interesting:

Breadman: "I'm Confident That Caleb Plant Can Knock Anybody Out"

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By and large, Caleb Plant has used his otherworldly boxing skills to avoid the oncoming onslaught of an opponent’s attack, while peppering his man with just enough offense to pick up the victory. However, following his 11-round stoppage defeat at the hands of Canelo Alvarez in November of 2021, Plant has ostensibly flipped a switch.

With the help of world-renowned trainer, Stephen “Breadman” Edwards, Plant (22-1, 13 KOs) seemed more daring and audacious during his showdown against Anthony Dirrell on October 15th. On the night, after lulling the former two-time WBC super middleweight belt holder to sleep, Plant uncorked a pernicious left hand, one that saw Dirrell’s lifeless body hit the canvas for a protracted amount of time.

Source: https://www.boxingscene.com/breadman-im-confident-caleb-plant-knock-anybody-out--171838 (https://www.boxingscene.com/breadman-im-confident-caleb-plant-knock-anybody-out--171838)


Canelo doesn't have the liberty to rest that long because I think there's a timetable in when can they only pursue the rematch with Bivol (although I'm not really sure about this but I think there's only a time limit) anyway, correct me if I'm wrong about this. Nevertheless, I really do agree with your sentiment because Canelo would lose everything if incase he'll be chasing diamonds in rush because his wrist might be the payment.

Back to the topic, I respect Stephen Breadman's perspective towards this fight and we all have our own bias and perspective in this bout. Still, I'm not that convinced that Caleb will be the one who will be smiling at the end.

Well, one of the operations or interventions that a human can have, the recovery is very delicate, they have to have a lot of rest, something like this is what can happen after this type of intervention, however I don't know if Canelo overexerts himself Such an operation can harm, well I don't know how the cases are handled now, or with what type of technology the intervention was made, but I hope that he is fully recovered, and with respect to Caleb, well everyone expects a great performance with respect to him, they all have great hopes, Benavidez is not one to let himself be beaten either, that boxer has very good technique.

^^ I like the confidence of Benavidez here, he is not backing down to any challenge as he has been chasing for this big fight for a long time. On the other hand, Caleb Plant is also confident as he is riding from that huge win, a knockout of the year.

So gonna be interesting how the fight will turn out to be. And also this fight hangs what the future will bring to the young David.

He wanted to fight Saul Alvarez next, and this is his ticket for the big one, better be a statement win because all his trash talking will back fire if he can't back it up against Caleb Plant.

He will be tested with that strong statement he needs to prove that in action, it's easy to say something but proving it will be a tough
assignment, Caleb is not an easy access to reach his dream fight.

A former champ who only got his first lost with Alvarez, something that Benavidez needs to prepare more harder to beat him up.

I like to see both of them proving those words that they've thrown, a big test to who will be the next challenger for Alvarez, unless Saul
will decline the challenge.

Yes, it is really quite a huge statement from a young boxer who aspires to be a champion in this weight class and although he's still up against a huge challenge, I believe and I'm pretty confident that he can manage well against the former IBF World Champion, Caleb Plant. Moreover, this will be a good warm up fight for David and will provide a strong statement that he is ready to fight the undisputed champion who's more stronger and faster.

I think he knows that he has the advantage in this fight that's why he is making a huge statement in public. His knockout record speaks for itself as he is leaving a trail of knockout wins. Yes, we can say it like that, to face the man who Canelo has beaten already, so it's a good measuring stick for us to see if he has really the talent to go after Canelo at this point in his career. So David should impose and big statement win to get the attention of Alvarez and potential showdown in the near future. As Canelo will probably rematch Bivol first.

Benavidez is a boxer who always does his things well, he is one of those I have seen who has a discipline and who takes care of his talent, his ability is strengthened with his training and I think that at the level of boxe'op and any sport of high performance contact, his forte is good training, well in what is my personal opinion and from my short experience, I know that hard training makes winners, because the body is subjected to a great level of stress and that is enough to being able to measure yourself in a fight, because in a fight the conditions are not as extreme as the extreme level of good training.

David Benavidez vs. Caleb Plant Los Angeles press conference this Thursday, Feb.2nd


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By Sean Jones: David Benavidez & Caleb ‘Sweethands’ Plant will meet this Thursday, February 2nd, for their kickoff Los Angeles press conference to discuss their March 25th fight on Showtime pay-per-view at the MGM Grand Garden Arena in Las Vegas, Nevada. The press conference beings at 1:00 p.m. PT. The unbeaten former two-time WBC super middleweight champion Benavidez (26-0, 23 KOs) and former IBF champ Plant (22-1, 13 KOs) will battle on March 25th to position themselves to face Canelo Alvarez for his four belts. Benavidez will have his interim WBC 168-lb title on the line against Plant in a fight that shapes up to be a cat & mouse affair with Caleb doing a lot of moving around the 22-ft ring, trying to elude the pressure from David.

Source: David Benavidez Vs. Caleb Plant Los Angeles Press Conference This Thursday, Feb.2nd - Boxing News 24 (https://www.boxingnews24.com/2023/01/david-benavidez-vs-caleb-plant-los-angeles-press-conference-this-thursday-feb-2nd/)


Source: https://www.boxingnews24.com/2023/01/david-benavidez-vs-caleb-plant-los-angeles-press-conference-this-thursday-feb-2nd/ (https://www.boxingnews24.com/2023/01/david-benavidez-vs-caleb-plant-los-angeles-press-conference-this-thursday-feb-2nd/)

This fight is very interesting, because both boxers have a point of view to defend their points, so this is something that the same sport makes them, however I could not be sure which boxer wins here, as far as I am concerned I see both at the same level, and that is difficult, I would have to have many more details to see how their training has been, how they are psychologically.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Caleb Plant vs David Benavidez
Post by: inthelongrun on February 02, 2023, 10:52:26 AM
So it seems like the winner of Plant-Benavidez is not getting a shot at Canelo Alvarez. As per Eddie Hearn's latest updates, Canelo is determined to take revenge on Dmitry Bivol right after his fight with John Ryder. And since Ryder-Canelo is a WBO mandatory and the Canelo-Bivol is a rematch clause activated, the Benavidez-Plant winner cannot request the WBC to strip Canelo of his belt in favor of the interim champ. Canelo remains the biggest cash cow in boxing anyways and he might also get VIP treatments on sanctioning bodies. Canelo and the WBC also blocked us fight fans to see a possible Beterbiev-Bivol unification for the undisputed belts at light-heavyweight.

Eddie Hearn updates on Canelo Alvarez’s plans, Terence Crawford, Bivol vs Beterbiev, Jake Paul vs Tommy Fury, more (https://www.badlefthook.com/2023/1/31/23579635/eddie-hearn-updates-canelo-terence-crawford-bivol-beterbiev-jake-paul-tommy-fury-boxing-news-2023)


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Caleb Plant vs David Benavidez
Post by: Sanitough on February 02, 2023, 12:08:45 PM
So it seems like the winner of Plant-Benavidez is not getting a shot at Canelo Alvarez. As per Eddie Hearn's latest updates, Canelo is determined to take revenge on Dmitry Bivol right after his fight with John Ryder. And since Ryder-Canelo is a WBO mandatory and the Canelo-Bivol is a rematch clause activated, the Benavidez-Plant winner cannot request the WBC to strip Canelo of his belt in favor of the interim champ. Canelo remains the biggest cash cow in boxing anyways and he might also get VIP treatments on sanctioning bodies. Canelo and the WBC also blocked us fight fans to see a possible Beterbiev-Bivol unification for the undisputed belts at light-heavyweight.

Eddie Hearn updates on Canelo Alvarez’s plans, Terence Crawford, Bivol vs Beterbiev, Jake Paul vs Tommy Fury, more (https://www.badlefthook.com/2023/1/31/23579635/eddie-hearn-updates-canelo-terence-crawford-bivol-beterbiev-jake-paul-tommy-fury-boxing-news-2023)

That's a good thing as it will make the  way to Bivol rematch faster than expected. At least Canelo could avenge his previous lose after his mandatory fight. I hope this will happen this year so it can be concluded if Canelo really is a real threat to beat Bivol, or Bivol would close their rivalry by beating him twice.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Caleb Plant vs David Benavidez
Post by: carlisle1 on February 02, 2023, 12:26:10 PM
So it seems like the winner of Plant-Benavidez is not getting a shot at Canelo Alvarez. As per Eddie Hearn's latest updates, Canelo is determined to take revenge on Dmitry Bivol right after his fight with John Ryder. And since Ryder-Canelo is a WBO mandatory and the Canelo-Bivol is a rematch clause activated, the Benavidez-Plant winner cannot request the WBC to strip Canelo of his belt in favor of the interim champ. Canelo remains the biggest cash cow in boxing anyways and he might also get VIP treatments on sanctioning bodies. Canelo and the WBC also blocked us fight fans to see a possible Beterbiev-Bivol unification for the undisputed belts at light-heavyweight.

Eddie Hearn updates on Canelo Alvarez’s plans, Terence Crawford, Bivol vs Beterbiev, Jake Paul vs Tommy Fury, more (https://www.badlefthook.com/2023/1/31/23579635/eddie-hearn-updates-canelo-terence-crawford-bivol-beterbiev-jake-paul-tommy-fury-boxing-news-2023)

That's a good thing as it will make the  way to Bivol rematch faster than expected. At least Canelo could avenge his previous lose after his mandatory fight. I hope this will happen this year so it can be concluded if Canelo really is a real threat to beat Bivol, or Bivol would close their rivalry by beating him twice.

If that fight will take place much earlier expect to see a huge amount of flowing money for this possible upcoming fight,
Canelo-Bivol rematch will bring huge money to both promoters and the fighters.

I like to see them again and if Canelo is determined to win this fight, the chance of new rivalry to have a trilogy is not by far.

Looking forward to hear more updates with what the next journey for the winner of Plant vs Benavidez fight would be.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Caleb Plant vs David Benavidez
Post by: Yaunfitda on February 02, 2023, 01:19:13 PM
So it seems like the winner of Plant-Benavidez is not getting a shot at Canelo Alvarez. As per Eddie Hearn's latest updates, Canelo is determined to take revenge on Dmitry Bivol right after his fight with John Ryder. And since Ryder-Canelo is a WBO mandatory and the Canelo-Bivol is a rematch clause activated, the Benavidez-Plant winner cannot request the WBC to strip Canelo of his belt in favor of the interim champ. Canelo remains the biggest cash cow in boxing anyways and he might also get VIP treatments on sanctioning bodies. Canelo and the WBC also blocked us fight fans to see a possible Beterbiev-Bivol unification for the undisputed belts at light-heavyweight.

Eddie Hearn updates on Canelo Alvarez’s plans, Terence Crawford, Bivol vs Beterbiev, Jake Paul vs Tommy Fury, more (https://www.badlefthook.com/2023/1/31/23579635/eddie-hearn-updates-canelo-terence-crawford-bivol-beterbiev-jake-paul-tommy-fury-boxing-news-2023)
Might be bad for us boxing fans, but at least if Benavidez won and then Canelo 'ducking' him, then it's not going to be there problem and could probably fight for the interim belt next, or this fight could be sanction as such.

So in any case Canelo will be ready and still be the champion, then maybe he can give Benavidez his chance.

All roads to Canelo though, as you have said, he is the cash cow and all boxing body are giving him a huge favor by not forcing him to fight his mandatory.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Caleb Plant vs David Benavidez
Post by: LUCKMCFLY on February 02, 2023, 01:32:13 PM

And since the fight is lock now, it's time for David to show what he is capable of against Caleb.

Maybe after he won, and calls out Alvarez, we shall see if Canelo will fight him next or go to an easy tune up fight against John Ryder.

Canelo is not that kind of a fighter, he would not go on a easy route, in fact, he tried to move up in weight and fight a champion, so I'm expecting that he will use his time very well and that being said, he will fight the winner of this bout.

Canelo is knows the value of his name, and the route that he will go probably if where the money at, we all know this man
and he's always getting huge portions of the money.

But I'm expecting him to give the winner a chance and face him, a good way to defend his belt and make him still the top fighter from this division.

Waiting for the winner of this fight and see if what will be the next update.

That's what I thought as well, Canelo is going to fight the winner which I think will be Benavidez. And this fight is more exciting to watch as we haven't seen them fight before, unlike Canelo fighting Plant which we already saw how he dismantled him in round 11 when they met.

Benavidez should do his best to win this match though it will be a tough and challenging match for him to face plant. He must show off his real strength so he could possibly face Canelo in the future. I believe that Benavidez still has a lot to prove so it will be a good chance for him to showcase his real capability in the ring. It will be an exciting match and I hope this would happen early this year.

In particular, I think the same as you, for me Benavidez is a boxer who has worked hard, you can see that he trains a lot and that he has many dreams, well, like everyone, almost all boxers have many dreams and among them to be the best and the most famous, this is one of the things that they look for the most, and besides, I know that he wants to be able to reach Caenlo in an impressive way, with that he takes away the idea of fighting Inoue, since he is a person who He is quite insistent and apart from everything he wants to fight against the best, Benavidez can do it, I think he has how to do it.

So it seems like the winner of Plant-Benavidez is not getting a shot at Canelo Alvarez. As per Eddie Hearn's latest updates, Canelo is determined to take revenge on Dmitry Bivol right after his fight with John Ryder. And since Ryder-Canelo is a WBO mandatory and the Canelo-Bivol is a rematch clause activated, the Benavidez-Plant winner cannot request the WBC to strip Canelo of his belt in favor of the interim champ. Canelo remains the biggest cash cow in boxing anyways and he might also get VIP treatments on sanctioning bodies. Canelo and the WBC also blocked us fight fans to see a possible Beterbiev-Bivol unification for the undisputed belts at light-heavyweight.

Eddie Hearn updates on Canelo Alvarez’s plans, Terence Crawford, Bivol vs Beterbiev, Jake Paul vs Tommy Fury, more (https://www.badlefthook.com/2023/1/31/23579635/eddie-hearn-updates-canelo-terence-crawford-bivol-beterbiev-jake-paul-tommy-fury-boxing-news-2023)

That's a good thing as it will make the  way to Bivol rematch faster than expected. At least Canelo could avenge his previous lose after his mandatory fight. I hope this will happen this year so it can be concluded if Canelo really is a real threat to beat Bivol, or Bivol would close their rivalry by beating him twice.

If that fight will take place much earlier expect to see a huge amount of flowing money for this possible upcoming fight,
Canelo-Bivol rematch will bring huge money to both promoters and the fighters.

I like to see them again and if Canelo is determined to win this fight, the chance of new rivalry to have a trilogy is not by far.

Looking forward to hear more updates with what the next journey for the winner of Plant vs Benavidez fight would be.

Well, for me in particular, I would like to see the rematch of Canela vs. Bivol, because this generates a lot of things and like the emotions that many fans give, however I think that Bivol will give this fight just to comply, because I don't see that he I want him to know about this fight, it's more, I don't know, but in my perception I think Bivol is annoyed or annoyed to fight again to tell Canelo, and it's because he doesn't see him at his level, I think Bivol knows that if he fights The new one against Canelo will win and he will waste an event that could be with another boxer who will give him much more fame and recognition, this is something that I speculate that Bivol may think, and that because of the way he takes things against Canelo, it may be I'm wrong, but I think so.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Caleb Plant vs David Benavidez
Post by: Baofeng on February 03, 2023, 10:27:57 PM
I urge you to watch the kick off press conference:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hvz6ai6ZqFU

Hehehe, it was very heated, Benavidez mouth was running and trash talking the hell out of Caleb Plant.

It was very intense that they can go fighting in that podium. Maybe Caleb hit it on the mark when he says that Benavidez has issues before like not making weight and the drugs that's why he is so furious and continue to attack Caleb verbally.

But in any case it's already living to the hype in their first press conference.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Caleb Plant vs David Benavidez
Post by: robelneo on February 05, 2023, 11:40:54 AM
I urge you to watch the kick off press conference:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hvz6ai6ZqFU

Hehehe, it was very heated, Benavidez mouth was running and trash talking the hell out of Caleb Plant.

It was very intense that they can go fighting in that podium. Maybe Caleb hit it on the mark when he says that Benavidez has issues before like not making weight and the drugs that's why he is so furious and continue to attack Caleb verbally.

But in any case it's already living to the hype in their first press conference.

Obviously, Benavidez hates Caleb Plant there's too much disrespect for Caleb Plant, I consider Benavidez a better fighter but I want Plant to knock him out, Benavidez is too brazen its understandable because the drug issue is very sensitive for Benavidez, this is just the first conference I expect the thrash talks to be more heated and they may even have a brawl if Caleb keeps hitting him.
Thrashtalks like this with both fighters hating each other are good for the preparation of the fight night.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Caleb Plant vs David Benavidez
Post by: Baofeng on February 05, 2023, 11:44:53 AM
I urge you to watch the kick off press conference:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hvz6ai6ZqFU

Hehehe, it was very heated, Benavidez mouth was running and trash talking the hell out of Caleb Plant.

It was very intense that they can go fighting in that podium. Maybe Caleb hit it on the mark when he says that Benavidez has issues before like not making weight and the drugs that's why he is so furious and continue to attack Caleb verbally.

But in any case it's already living to the hype in their first press conference.

Obviously, Benavidez hates Caleb Plant there's too much disrespect for Caleb Plant, I consider Benavidez a better fighter but I want Plant to knock him out, Benavidez is too brazen its understandable because the drug issue is very sensitive for Benavidez, this is just the first conference I expect the thrash talks to be more heated and they may even have a brawl if Caleb keeps hitting him.
Thrashtalks like this with both fighters hating each other are good for the preparation of the fight night.

I would agree that maybe Benavidez went overboard here, there's so much hate and disrespect, you can actually feel it when watch the pressere.

So by now it's hard to like the personality of Benavidez and his father, and remember that this is the just the first press conference, just wait till the face off and maybe we will see another Canelo vs Plant action hehehe. Let's see if Benavidez can back up all his trash talking, we know that he has the tools though, but Caleb after this, might be fueling inside and wanted to punch that big mouth of David.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Caleb Plant vs David Benavidez
Post by: carlisle1 on February 05, 2023, 11:40:52 PM
I urge you to watch the kick off press conference:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hvz6ai6ZqFU

Hehehe, it was very heated, Benavidez mouth was running and trash talking the hell out of Caleb Plant.

It was very intense that they can go fighting in that podium. Maybe Caleb hit it on the mark when he says that Benavidez has issues before like not making weight and the drugs that's why he is so furious and continue to attack Caleb verbally.

But in any case it's already living to the hype in their first press conference.

Obviously, Benavidez hates Caleb Plant there's too much disrespect for Caleb Plant, I consider Benavidez a better fighter but I want Plant to knock him out, Benavidez is too brazen its understandable because the drug issue is very sensitive for Benavidez, this is just the first conference I expect the thrash talks to be more heated and they may even have a brawl if Caleb keeps hitting him.
Thrashtalks like this with both fighters hating each other are good for the preparation of the fight night.

I would agree that maybe Benavidez went overboard here, there's so much hate and disrespect, you can actually feel it when watch the pressere.

So by now it's hard to like the personality of Benavidez and his father, and remember that this is the just the first press conference, just wait till the face off and maybe we will see another Canelo vs Plant action hehehe. Let's see if Benavidez can back up all his trash talking, we know that he has the tools though, but Caleb after this, might be fueling inside and wanted to punch that big mouth of David.

Most of the time, it's easier to said than done, but let see if how Benavidez will take all the talks in action, I would like to see
a good confrontation inside the ring.

Looking to see for someone to kiss the floor and lose the fight with a KO. It's more on fueling the excitement from the fans
and let them be engage to continue following the updates while waiting for the fight to take place.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Caleb Plant vs David Benavidez
Post by: Baofeng on February 06, 2023, 01:51:45 PM
I urge you to watch the kick off press conference:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hvz6ai6ZqFU

Hehehe, it was very heated, Benavidez mouth was running and trash talking the hell out of Caleb Plant.

It was very intense that they can go fighting in that podium. Maybe Caleb hit it on the mark when he says that Benavidez has issues before like not making weight and the drugs that's why he is so furious and continue to attack Caleb verbally.

But in any case it's already living to the hype in their first press conference.

Obviously, Benavidez hates Caleb Plant there's too much disrespect for Caleb Plant, I consider Benavidez a better fighter but I want Plant to knock him out, Benavidez is too brazen its understandable because the drug issue is very sensitive for Benavidez, this is just the first conference I expect the thrash talks to be more heated and they may even have a brawl if Caleb keeps hitting him.
Thrashtalks like this with both fighters hating each other are good for the preparation of the fight night.

I would agree that maybe Benavidez went overboard here, there's so much hate and disrespect, you can actually feel it when watch the pressere.

So by now it's hard to like the personality of Benavidez and his father, and remember that this is the just the first press conference, just wait till the face off and maybe we will see another Canelo vs Plant action hehehe. Let's see if Benavidez can back up all his trash talking, we know that he has the tools though, but Caleb after this, might be fueling inside and wanted to punch that big mouth of David.

Most of the time, it's easier to said than done, but let see if how Benavidez will take all the talks in action, I would like to see
a good confrontation inside the ring.

Looking to see for someone to kiss the floor and lose the fight with a KO. It's more on fueling the excitement from the fans
and let them be engage to continue following the updates while waiting for the fight to take place.

I think we will not run out of action in this fight, both are trash talkers and so we will see how it will equate inside the ring between this two.

David Benavidez has the power, he has the advantage on that department, but Caleb Plant is riding high on his knockout win against Dirrell so I expect that he will go after Benavidez chin and test it out and counter a lot with his new found left hook power.

And if that happens then the winner is us fans because for sure it will be a very entertaining fight.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Caleb Plant vs David Benavidez
Post by: LUCKMCFLY on February 09, 2023, 08:16:17 PM
^^ I like the confidence of Benavidez here, he is not backing down to any challenge as he has been chasing for this big fight for a long time. On the other hand, Caleb Plant is also confident as he is riding from that huge win, a knockout of the year.

So gonna be interesting how the fight will turn out to be. And also this fight hangs what the future will bring to the young David.

He wanted to fight Saul Alvarez next, and this is his ticket for the big one, better be a statement win because all his trash talking will back fire if he can't back it up against Caleb Plant.

He will be tested with that strong statement he needs to prove that in action, it's easy to say something but proving it will be a tough
assignment, Caleb is not an easy access to reach his dream fight.

A former champ who only got his first lost with Alvarez, something that Benavidez needs to prepare more harder to beat him up.

I like to see both of them proving those words that they've thrown, a big test to who will be the next challenger for Alvarez, unless Saul
will decline the challenge.

Yes, it is really quite a huge statement from a young boxer who aspires to be a champion in this weight class and although he's still up against a huge challenge, I believe and I'm pretty confident that he can manage well against the former IBF World Champion, Caleb Plant. Moreover, this will be a good warm up fight for David and will provide a strong statement that he is ready to fight the undisputed champion who's more stronger and faster.

Well David is one of the great boxers we have, this fight is one of those that can make a difference to be able to put boxing on a level where it goes up, because if he wins obviously the fights will be very good for him, they will look for the best boxers and there will be certain types of fights that are very favorable for his career, this means that the opportunity Caleb has is unique, he has to win to prove his worth, the doors for him and David can open and have a better future, the categories can change, and that can make a difference in a boxer, the opportunities are there, and somehow these things must be taken advantage of.

Caleb Plant: Benavidez Opponents Have Been One Dimensional & Not In Same Universe As Me

https://i.imgur.com/cNLpFOQ.png

Quote
LOS ANGELES — Caleb Plant believes he’s a cut above all of the previous opponents upcoming adversary David Benavidez has ever faced.

Plant (22-1, 13 KOs) and Benavidez (26-0, 23 KOs) will finally settle their yearslong beef in a super middleweight matchup on March 25 at the MGM Grand Garden Arena in Las Vegas on Showtime pay-per-view.

The former world titlists will be fighting for the right to become the WBC No. 1 mandatory challenger to 168-pound undisputed champion Canelo Alvarez.

If the 30-year-old Las Vegas-based, Nashville native Plant were to win, it would put him in a position to get revenge for his only career loss, which came to Alvarez in November of 2021.

“This is [Benavidez’s] first big fight. This ain't my first big fight. I've been here before. I've been on the big stage more than once,” Plant said in an interview with BoxingScene.com and other reporters.

Source: https://www.boxingscene.com/caleb-plant-benavidez-opponents-one-dimensional-not-same-universe-me--172339 (https://www.boxingscene.com/caleb-plant-benavidez-opponents-one-dimensional-not-same-universe-me--172339)


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Caleb Plant vs David Benavidez
Post by: Baofeng on February 10, 2023, 11:55:15 PM
And probably this is where all the beef started between Caleb and the Benavidez:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5nVh_HLGI-k

As you can see there is confrontation between the two groups years ago, it was Jose Benavidez in the video but David is right behind.

And so the animosity between the two runs deep and that's why David is eager to get his hands on Caleb for slapping someone in his team, in could be Jose that got hit if I'm not mistaken.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Caleb Plant vs David Benavidez
Post by: Dave1 on February 11, 2023, 07:20:50 AM
And probably this is where all the beef started between Caleb and the Benavidez:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5nVh_HLGI-k

As you can see there is confrontation between the two groups years ago, it was Jose Benavidez in the video but David is right behind.

And so the animosity between the two runs deep and that's why David is eager to get his hands on Caleb for slapping someone in his team, in could be Jose that got hit if I'm not mistaken.

Ok, we don't know what's the reason behind the Benavidez storming Caleb's Plant side on this one. Yes, probably there is a meaning behind all of this. Fortunately for us, we will witnessed it when they face each other in March.

No more excuses in this one, both have disrespected each other though, Caleb swinging and then the Benavidez trying to protect themselves. So let's see how this two is inside the ring and try to take off each other's heads.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Caleb Plant vs David Benavidez
Post by: Kemarit on February 11, 2023, 07:33:54 AM
And probably this is where all the beef started between Caleb and the Benavidez:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5nVh_HLGI-k

As you can see there is confrontation between the two groups years ago, it was Jose Benavidez in the video but David is right behind.

And so the animosity between the two runs deep and that's why David is eager to get his hands on Caleb for slapping someone in his team, in could be Jose that got hit if I'm not mistaken.

Ok, we don't know what's the reason behind the Benavidez storming Caleb's Plant side on this one. Yes, probably there is a meaning behind all of this. Fortunately for us, we will witnessed it when they face each other in March.

No more excuses in this one, both have disrespected each other though, Caleb swinging and then the Benavidez trying to protect themselves. So let's see how this two is inside the ring and try to take off each other's heads.

It's great for boxing though, I mean two warriors trying to knock the hell out of each other. Caleb shows knockout skills in his last fight, David has the punching power, so it's going to be a clash. And it's personal, way back they already have beef and this could be revenge for sure.

The Benadivez says that they are chasing this fight for 5 years and so they are going to give the fans what they wanted to see.

Both camp are super pump, them and their entourage.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Caleb Plant vs David Benavidez
Post by: Kasabus on February 12, 2023, 07:53:11 PM
And probably this is where all the beef started between Caleb and the Benavidez:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5nVh_HLGI-k

As you can see there is confrontation between the two groups years ago, it was Jose Benavidez in the video but David is right behind.

And so the animosity between the two runs deep and that's why David is eager to get his hands on Caleb for slapping someone in his team, in could be Jose that got hit if I'm not mistaken.

Ok, we don't know what's the reason behind the Benavidez storming Caleb's Plant side on this one. Yes, probably there is a meaning behind all of this. Fortunately for us, we will witnessed it when they face each other in March.

No more excuses in this one, both have disrespected each other though, Caleb swinging and then the Benavidez trying to protect themselves. So let's see how this two is inside the ring and try to take off each other's heads.

I see, now I understand it because I thought that there was no rivalry or dispute between two camps before their discussion about the fight has started.
But as you guys are saying, it seems that this is quite personal for David Benavidez because Caleb Plant laid his hands on his comrade and we know what will happen next because the kid will thrive hard to give his comrade a revenge. This is getting interesting! ;D


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Caleb Plant vs David Benavidez
Post by: serjent05 on February 12, 2023, 08:50:18 PM
I urge you to watch the kick off press conference:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hvz6ai6ZqFU

Hehehe, it was very heated, Benavidez mouth was running and trash talking the hell out of Caleb Plant.

It was very intense that they can go fighting in that podium. Maybe Caleb hit it on the mark when he says that Benavidez has issues before like not making weight and the drugs that's why he is so furious and continue to attack Caleb verbally.

But in any case it's already living to the hype in their first press conference.

Obviously, Benavidez hates Caleb Plant there's too much disrespect for Caleb Plant, I consider Benavidez a better fighter but I want Plant to knock him out, Benavidez is too brazen its understandable because the drug issue is very sensitive for Benavidez, this is just the first conference I expect the thrash talks to be more heated and they may even have a brawl if Caleb keeps hitting him.
Thrashtalks like this with both fighters hating each other are good for the preparation of the fight night.

I would agree that maybe Benavidez went overboard here, there's so much hate and disrespect, you can actually feel it when watch the pressere.

So by now it's hard to like the personality of Benavidez and his father, and remember that this is the just the first press conference, just wait till the face off and maybe we will see another Canelo vs Plant action hehehe. Let's see if Benavidez can back up all his trash talking, we know that he has the tools though, but Caleb after this, might be fueling inside and wanted to punch that big mouth of David.

I watch the face-off, which was one heated argument but I like how Plant reacts, being cool and everything.  Lol, I wonder why the Sr.  Benavidez has the mic and keeps on butting in.  I want to see Benavidez get KO'ed on their fight.  But still I wonder if these heated argument are just made up (scripted) to make the fight more interesting and cater more viewers.  Since it doesn't feel right when the other camp is so heated while the other camp is just chilling.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Caleb Plant vs David Benavidez
Post by: Baofeng on February 12, 2023, 10:00:24 PM
And probably this is where all the beef started between Caleb and the Benavidez:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5nVh_HLGI-k

As you can see there is confrontation between the two groups years ago, it was Jose Benavidez in the video but David is right behind.

And so the animosity between the two runs deep and that's why David is eager to get his hands on Caleb for slapping someone in his team, in could be Jose that got hit if I'm not mistaken.

Ok, we don't know what's the reason behind the Benavidez storming Caleb's Plant side on this one. Yes, probably there is a meaning behind all of this. Fortunately for us, we will witnessed it when they face each other in March.

No more excuses in this one, both have disrespected each other though, Caleb swinging and then the Benavidez trying to protect themselves. So let's see how this two is inside the ring and try to take off each other's heads.

I see, now I understand it because I thought that there was no rivalry or dispute between two camps before their discussion about the fight has started.
But as you guys are saying, it seems that this is quite personal for David Benavidez because Caleb Plant laid his hands on his comrade and we know what will happen next because the kid will thrive hard to give his comrade a revenge. This is getting interesting! ;D

Yeah, the rivalry and the hate has been like 4-5 years in the making. And we have seen that in the video that there is a confrontation between the two camps and now it become so personal that they have to settle it in the ring.

And Caleb says that Benavidez is the Interim and that winning against Dirrell, he has to face him. And so he is ready.

@serjent05 - yeah Sr says that his son are going to crack Caleb's head and Caleb mentions that Sr hehehe.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Caleb Plant vs David Benavidez
Post by: goldkingcoiner on February 12, 2023, 10:07:49 PM
I do not think that Caleb Plant has any real chance against David Benavidez. For Benavidez this entire fight is just basically a PR/marketing stunt to do right by his fans and his image as well as his overall boxing career. If it was not for his cocaine embarrassment, this fight would probably never even take place.

He did not take any drugs which would enhance his fighting skills/abilities or training regiments, its just him being punished for being found out. This changes nothing  in his fighting ability, though. Which is why its going to be an easy win.

I see no reason to punish him for his drug habit other than deceiving his fans who bet money on him to be physically and mentally healthy in his fights. His habit might get him in prison or he might have a heart attack. I guess this makes us feel a bit uneasy to bet on him.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Caleb Plant vs David Benavidez
Post by: Baofeng on February 21, 2023, 11:40:17 PM
For the latest odds, Caleb Plant is the underdog,

https://i.imgur.com/vRWNdX9.png

And so it seems that Benavidez power is the overwhelming reasons why he is big favorite, as for Caleb 3:1 underdog good already for a ML bet. I will agree with the odds maker, gonna be hard for Caleb to score a win against a hard hitting David Benavidez who has one mission, to have a fight with Canelo Alvarez in the future.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Caleb Plant vs David Benavidez
Post by: bbc.reporter on February 22, 2023, 03:50:52 AM
For the latest odds, Caleb Plant is the underdog,

https://i.imgur.com/vRWNdX9.png

And so it seems that Benavidez power is the overwhelming reasons why he is big favorite, as for Caleb 3:1 underdog good already for a ML bet. I will agree with the odds maker, gonna be hard for Caleb to score a win against a hard hitting David Benavidez who has one mission, to have a fight with Canelo Alvarez in the future.

Plant might win some rounds in the beginning because of his experience hehe. However yes, very much similar to Canelo, it will be Benavidez's strength and his physical presence that will cause him to win this fight. It can also be argued that Benavidez has more strength and physical presence than Canelo.

In any case it appears that much of the voters have the correct vote. Benavidez by technical knockout or knockout. What round does everyone predict for the knockout?


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Caleb Plant vs David Benavidez
Post by: Yaunfitda on February 22, 2023, 04:00:28 AM
For the latest odds, Caleb Plant is the underdog,

https://i.imgur.com/vRWNdX9.png

And so it seems that Benavidez power is the overwhelming reasons why he is big favorite, as for Caleb 3:1 underdog good already for a ML bet. I will agree with the odds maker, gonna be hard for Caleb to score a win against a hard hitting David Benavidez who has one mission, to have a fight with Canelo Alvarez in the future.

Plant might win some rounds in the beginning because of his experience hehe. However yes, very much similar to Canelo, it will be Benavidez's strength and his physical presence that will cause him to win this fight. It can also be argued that Benavidez has more strength and physical presence than Canelo.

In any case it appears that much of the voters have the correct vote. Benavidez by technical knockout or knockout. What round does everyone predict for the knockout?
I did looked at the odds right now and the Over 10.5 is good for me to bet, 2.03.

Or if this fight is going for a Benavidez win by KO, could be the same, over 10.5, so round range could by 7-9, or 10-12, both as well are good odds to bet, more that 4.x.

Exact round, this is very difficult to predict though, but again late in the rounds, 9-11.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Caleb Plant vs David Benavidez
Post by: carlisle1 on February 22, 2023, 08:48:28 AM
For the latest odds, Caleb Plant is the underdog,

https://i.imgur.com/vRWNdX9.png

And so it seems that Benavidez power is the overwhelming reasons why he is big favorite, as for Caleb 3:1 underdog good already for a ML bet. I will agree with the odds maker, gonna be hard for Caleb to score a win against a hard hitting David Benavidez who has one mission, to have a fight with Canelo Alvarez in the future.

Plant might win some rounds in the beginning because of his experience hehe. However yes, very much similar to Canelo, it will be Benavidez's strength and his physical presence that will cause him to win this fight. It can also be argued that Benavidez has more strength and physical presence than Canelo.

In any case it appears that much of the voters have the correct vote. Benavidez by technical knockout or knockout. What round does everyone predict for the knockout?
I did looked at the odds right now and the Over 10.5 is good for me to bet, 2.03.

Or if this fight is going for a Benavidez win by KO, could be the same, over 10.5, so round range could by 7-9, or 10-12, both as well are good odds to bet, more that 4.x.

Exact round, this is very difficult to predict though, but again late in the rounds, 9-11.

If Plant will utilize his strategy and he will not engage that much, over 10.5 is decent to win x2 of your bet, I see this one as a good
value bet if basing it with the way Plant executes his past strategy.
Though the chance that he might change that and will try his capabilities to engage and start a toe-to-toe fight with Benavidez, something
that might be new with Plant.
But, along the way it will be depend on how both fighters will showcase their skills and talent to beat one another, anything can happen
with both are really aiming to win.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Caleb Plant vs David Benavidez
Post by: Baofeng on February 22, 2023, 10:10:55 PM
For the latest odds, Caleb Plant is the underdog,

https://i.imgur.com/vRWNdX9.png

And so it seems that Benavidez power is the overwhelming reasons why he is big favorite, as for Caleb 3:1 underdog good already for a ML bet. I will agree with the odds maker, gonna be hard for Caleb to score a win against a hard hitting David Benavidez who has one mission, to have a fight with Canelo Alvarez in the future.

Plant might win some rounds in the beginning because of his experience hehe. However yes, very much similar to Canelo, it will be Benavidez's strength and his physical presence that will cause him to win this fight. It can also be argued that Benavidez has more strength and physical presence than Canelo.

In any case it appears that much of the voters have the correct vote. Benavidez by technical knockout or knockout. What round does everyone predict for the knockout?

I reckon if could be in the late rounds, when Caleb is already tired and probably soften by Benavidez. I think David is also the stronger of the two, so most likely he is going to push Caleb all throughout the fight. I haven't bet yet, but I probably go with rounds 8-10 for David to finished the job a score a knockout or technical knockout.

And yes, our voters here are very intelligent, they voted for who they think are really going to win in this fight. And that's what we appreciate from our boxing community here, hehehe.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Caleb Plant vs David Benavidez
Post by: Jating on February 23, 2023, 03:49:03 PM
For the latest odds, Caleb Plant is the underdog,

https://i.imgur.com/vRWNdX9.png

And so it seems that Benavidez power is the overwhelming reasons why he is big favorite, as for Caleb 3:1 underdog good already for a ML bet. I will agree with the odds maker, gonna be hard for Caleb to score a win against a hard hitting David Benavidez who has one mission, to have a fight with Canelo Alvarez in the future.

Plant might win some rounds in the beginning because of his experience hehe. However yes, very much similar to Canelo, it will be Benavidez's strength and his physical presence that will cause him to win this fight. It can also be argued that Benavidez has more strength and physical presence than Canelo.

True, David Benavidez is the bigger and way more stronger that Caleb Plant. There is an interview on one of Benavidez sparring partner and his prediction is that the fight will be a 5 rounder. I forget the name of the kid, he is still young though and has been David's main sparring partner for the last 4 or 5 fights of his according to Sr.

In any case it appears that much of the voters have the correct vote. Benavidez by technical knockout or knockout. What round does everyone predict for the knockout?

So if we are going to listen to his sparring partner, the fight is not going to last for full 12 rounds. And the under 10.5 is 1.76 as per Sportsbet.io. It might not be good odds though for some of us.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Caleb Plant vs David Benavidez
Post by: Fredomago on February 23, 2023, 04:12:19 PM
For the latest odds, Caleb Plant is the underdog,

https://i.imgur.com/vRWNdX9.png

And so it seems that Benavidez power is the overwhelming reasons why he is big favorite, as for Caleb 3:1 underdog good already for a ML bet. I will agree with the odds maker, gonna be hard for Caleb to score a win against a hard hitting David Benavidez who has one mission, to have a fight with Canelo Alvarez in the future.

Plant might win some rounds in the beginning because of his experience hehe. However yes, very much similar to Canelo, it will be Benavidez's strength and his physical presence that will cause him to win this fight. It can also be argued that Benavidez has more strength and physical presence than Canelo.

True, David Benavidez is the bigger and way more stronger that Caleb Plant. There is an interview on one of Benavidez sparring partner and his prediction is that the fight will be a 5 rounder. I forget the name of the kid, he is still young though and has been David's main sparring partner for the last 4 or 5 fights of his according to Sr.


In that particular side, Benavidez really have that edge but considering that Plant also a former champ and have decent experienced fighting with different figthers, he might find ways to avoid any aggressive attempts coming from Benavidez. That prediction might be too much but who knows, if Benavidez will have that chance to box Plant then it can end as early as round 5.



Title: Re: [Boxing]: Caleb Plant vs David Benavidez
Post by: Baofeng on February 23, 2023, 10:32:18 PM
For the latest odds, Caleb Plant is the underdog,

https://i.imgur.com/vRWNdX9.png

And so it seems that Benavidez power is the overwhelming reasons why he is big favorite, as for Caleb 3:1 underdog good already for a ML bet. I will agree with the odds maker, gonna be hard for Caleb to score a win against a hard hitting David Benavidez who has one mission, to have a fight with Canelo Alvarez in the future.

Plant might win some rounds in the beginning because of his experience hehe. However yes, very much similar to Canelo, it will be Benavidez's strength and his physical presence that will cause him to win this fight. It can also be argued that Benavidez has more strength and physical presence than Canelo.

True, David Benavidez is the bigger and way more stronger that Caleb Plant. There is an interview on one of Benavidez sparring partner and his prediction is that the fight will be a 5 rounder. I forget the name of the kid, he is still young though and has been David's main sparring partner for the last 4 or 5 fights of his according to Sr.

In that particular side, Benavidez really have that edge but considering that Plant also a former champ and have decent experienced fighting with different figthers, he might find ways to avoid any aggressive attempts coming from Benavidez. That prediction might be too much but who knows, if Benavidez will have that chance to box Plant then it can end as early as round 5.

Yeah, and not only that, that is sparring though, yes sparring partners can give their predictions but it's totally different when the main fighter in on the ring with someone that the sparring partner try to emulate. I think the one mentioned sparring partner here is Diego Pacheco, 21 year old super middleweight who has been in the camp of the Benavidez for a long time now.

And I don't think that David will long for early knock out, he said that he is going to punish Caleb so he might delay. He can go with the knock out early if it presents itself though. But I think it's going to be more than 5 round fight.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Caleb Plant vs David Benavidez
Post by: Kasabus on February 25, 2023, 08:04:18 PM
For the latest odds, Caleb Plant is the underdog,

https://i.imgur.com/vRWNdX9.png

And so it seems that Benavidez power is the overwhelming reasons why he is big favorite, as for Caleb 3:1 underdog good already for a ML bet. I will agree with the odds maker, gonna be hard for Caleb to score a win against a hard hitting David Benavidez who has one mission, to have a fight with Canelo Alvarez in the future.

Plant might win some rounds in the beginning because of his experience hehe. However yes, very much similar to Canelo, it will be Benavidez's strength and his physical presence that will cause him to win this fight. It can also be argued that Benavidez has more strength and physical presence than Canelo.

True, David Benavidez is the bigger and way more stronger that Caleb Plant. There is an interview on one of Benavidez sparring partner and his prediction is that the fight will be a 5 rounder. I forget the name of the kid, he is still young though and has been David's main sparring partner for the last 4 or 5 fights of his according to Sr.

In that particular side, Benavidez really have that edge but considering that Plant also a former champ and have decent experienced fighting with different figthers, he might find ways to avoid any aggressive attempts coming from Benavidez. That prediction might be too much but who knows, if Benavidez will have that chance to box Plant then it can end as early as round 5.

Yeah, and not only that, that is sparring though, yes sparring partners can give their predictions but it's totally different when the main fighter in on the ring with someone that the sparring partner try to emulate. I think the one mentioned sparring partner here is Diego Pacheco, 21 year old super middleweight who has been in the camp of the Benavidez for a long time now.

And I don't think that David will long for early knock out, he said that he is going to punish Caleb so he might delay. He can go with the knock out early if it presents itself though. But I think it's going to be more than 5 round fight.

A fight that will be finished in just 5 mere rounds in-favor of the kid, David Benavidez, is already like we are underestimating the former champion. Don't take me wrong, I'm also leaning on David but we shouldn't disregard Plant as if he's was not a former champion with almost no good experience with strong boxers in the same division. Both of them got an advantage for sure but I think it's time for the new generation to face the undisputed, and that means that Caleb is not on the equation anymore.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Caleb Plant vs David Benavidez
Post by: inthelongrun on February 26, 2023, 10:57:28 AM
I do not think that Caleb Plant has any real chance against David Benavidez. For Benavidez this entire fight is just basically a PR/marketing stunt to do right by his fans and his image as well as his overall boxing career. If it was not for his cocaine embarrassment, this fight would probably never even take place.

He did not take any drugs which would enhance his fighting skills/abilities or training regiments, its just him being punished for being found out. This changes nothing  in his fighting ability, though. Which is why its going to be an easy win.

I see no reason to punish him for his drug habit other than deceiving his fans who bet money on him to be physically and mentally healthy in his fights. His habit might get him in prison or he might have a heart attack. I guess this makes us feel a bit uneasy to bet on him.

A drug test is part of any sports regulation so David being caught positive deserved punishment. And who knows, his family or any member of his family is also part of the syndicate. Do you remember when his older brother Jose another big potential in boxing was shot and hit in the leg? That injury affected Jose's footwork and was stopped by Crawford.

Anyways, I also think David will be like a bull in the ring, too strong and too heavy-handed against Caleb. Caleb needs to hit David with a damaging shot to get his respect, otherwise, David will just continue to become aggressive and might even open himself to lure Caleb's defense. I see a David stoppage in the 2nd half of the fight but I am hoping for the underdog Caleb to pull an upset.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Caleb Plant vs David Benavidez
Post by: Japinat on February 27, 2023, 05:03:13 PM
I do not think that Caleb Plant has any real chance against David Benavidez. For Benavidez this entire fight is just basically a PR/marketing stunt to do right by his fans and his image as well as his overall boxing career. If it was not for his cocaine embarrassment, this fight would probably never even take place.

He did not take any drugs which would enhance his fighting skills/abilities or training regiments, its just him being punished for being found out. This changes nothing  in his fighting ability, though. Which is why its going to be an easy win.

I see no reason to punish him for his drug habit other than deceiving his fans who bet money on him to be physically and mentally healthy in his fights. His habit might get him in prison or he might have a heart attack. I guess this makes us feel a bit uneasy to bet on him.

A drug test is part of any sports regulation so David being caught positive deserved punishment. And who knows, his family or any member of his family is also part of the syndicate. Do you remember when his older brother Jose another big potential in boxing was shot and hit in the leg? That injury affected Jose's footwork and was stopped by Crawford.

Anyways, I also think David will be like a bull in the ring, too strong and too heavy-handed against Caleb. Caleb needs to hit David with a damaging shot to get his respect, otherwise, David will just continue to become aggressive and might even open himself to lure Caleb's defense. I see a David stoppage in the 2nd half of the fight but I am hoping for the underdog Caleb to pull an upset.

David Benavidez getting his punishment in the past was already enough for him because every move has always a consequence entailed, but speculating or accusing that maybe one or two of his family are also using it? That's quite a bit too much mate, and if ever you are right, we don't have any right to prosecute them because that's their personal life.

I bet you wouldn't want the same thing too and hear that somebody is accusing you or a member of your family, right? So, let's just focus on the topic and let their personal lives out of this.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Caleb Plant vs David Benavidez
Post by: Fredomago on February 27, 2023, 06:40:35 PM
I do not think that Caleb Plant has any real chance against David Benavidez. For Benavidez this entire fight is just basically a PR/marketing stunt to do right by his fans and his image as well as his overall boxing career. If it was not for his cocaine embarrassment, this fight would probably never even take place.

He did not take any drugs which would enhance his fighting skills/abilities or training regiments, its just him being punished for being found out. This changes nothing  in his fighting ability, though. Which is why its going to be an easy win.

I see no reason to punish him for his drug habit other than deceiving his fans who bet money on him to be physically and mentally healthy in his fights. His habit might get him in prison or he might have a heart attack. I guess this makes us feel a bit uneasy to bet on him.

A drug test is part of any sports regulation so David being caught positive deserved punishment. And who knows, his family or any member of his family is also part of the syndicate. Do you remember when his older brother Jose another big potential in boxing was shot and hit in the leg? That injury affected Jose's footwork and was stopped by Crawford.

Anyways, I also think David will be like a bull in the ring, too strong and too heavy-handed against Caleb. Caleb needs to hit David with a damaging shot to get his respect, otherwise, David will just continue to become aggressive and might even open himself to lure Caleb's defense. I see a David stoppage in the 2nd half of the fight but I am hoping for the underdog Caleb to pull an upset.

David Benavidez getting his punishment in the past was already enough for him because every move has always a consequence entailed, but speculating or accusing that maybe one or two of his family are also using it? That's quite a bit too much mate, and if ever you are right, we don't have any right to prosecute them because that's their personal life.

I bet you wouldn't want the same thing too and hear that somebody is accusing you or a member of your family, right? So, let's just focus on the topic and let their personal lives out of this.

Yeah it was in the past and he's now in this stage likewise drug test is a part of any sport and if David will get the go signal, then we will see him inside the ring and will showcase his talent, I don't want to go with their personal life as it's their position to decide where to bring it, I'm more on the capabilities of these two fighters in trying to win over one another.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Caleb Plant vs David Benavidez
Post by: Viscore on February 27, 2023, 07:41:31 PM
I urge you to watch the kick off press conference:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hvz6ai6ZqFU

Hehehe, it was very heated, Benavidez mouth was running and trash talking the hell out of Caleb Plant.

It was very intense that they can go fighting in that podium. Maybe Caleb hit it on the mark when he says that Benavidez has issues before like not making weight and the drugs that's why he is so furious and continue to attack Caleb verbally.

But in any case it's already living to the hype in their first press conference.

Obviously, Benavidez hates Caleb Plant there's too much disrespect for Caleb Plant, I consider Benavidez a better fighter but I want Plant to knock him out, Benavidez is too brazen its understandable because the drug issue is very sensitive for Benavidez, this is just the first conference I expect the thrash talks to be more heated and they may even have a brawl if Caleb keeps hitting him.
Thrashtalks like this with both fighters hating each other are good for the preparation of the fight night.

I would agree that maybe Benavidez went overboard here, there's so much hate and disrespect, you can actually feel it when watch the pressere.

So by now it's hard to like the personality of Benavidez and his father, and remember that this is the just the first press conference, just wait till the face off and maybe we will see another Canelo vs Plant action hehehe. Let's see if Benavidez can back up all his trash talking, we know that he has the tools though, but Caleb after this, might be fueling inside and wanted to punch that big mouth of David.
You’re right. Plant must have been disrespected so much that he’s eagerness to fight back Benavidez has completely reach the highest level. Well, this is a good motivation either to finally become one of the toughest boxer as his opponent is always tough and hard to beat inside the ring. But I still believe trash talking never make them great at all, unless if Benavidez can prove all his words against Plant and he can prove to anyone that he can dominate Plant inside the ring.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Caleb Plant vs David Benavidez
Post by: Japinat on March 02, 2023, 05:53:29 PM
I do not think that Caleb Plant has any real chance against David Benavidez. For Benavidez this entire fight is just basically a PR/marketing stunt to do right by his fans and his image as well as his overall boxing career. If it was not for his cocaine embarrassment, this fight would probably never even take place.

He did not take any drugs which would enhance his fighting skills/abilities or training regiments, its just him being punished for being found out. This changes nothing  in his fighting ability, though. Which is why its going to be an easy win.

I see no reason to punish him for his drug habit other than deceiving his fans who bet money on him to be physically and mentally healthy in his fights. His habit might get him in prison or he might have a heart attack. I guess this makes us feel a bit uneasy to bet on him.

A drug test is part of any sports regulation so David being caught positive deserved punishment. And who knows, his family or any member of his family is also part of the syndicate. Do you remember when his older brother Jose another big potential in boxing was shot and hit in the leg? That injury affected Jose's footwork and was stopped by Crawford.

Anyways, I also think David will be like a bull in the ring, too strong and too heavy-handed against Caleb. Caleb needs to hit David with a damaging shot to get his respect, otherwise, David will just continue to become aggressive and might even open himself to lure Caleb's defense. I see a David stoppage in the 2nd half of the fight but I am hoping for the underdog Caleb to pull an upset.

David Benavidez getting his punishment in the past was already enough for him because every move has always a consequence entailed, but speculating or accusing that maybe one or two of his family are also using it? That's quite a bit too much mate, and if ever you are right, we don't have any right to prosecute them because that's their personal life.

I bet you wouldn't want the same thing too and hear that somebody is accusing you or a member of your family, right? So, let's just focus on the topic and let their personal lives out of this.

Yeah it was in the past and he's now in this stage likewise drug test is a part of any sport and if David will get the go signal, then we will see him inside the ring and will showcase his talent, I don't want to go with their personal life as it's their position to decide where to bring it, I'm more on the capabilities of these two fighters in trying to win over one another.


Yes exactly, especially as a bettor, we should just focus on their talents and strengths to see who got more chances to win in this fight as that's what we needed in order to increase our chances as well. We won't get anywhere if we are also taking affairs on their personal life because that's already none of our business, we know that judges doesn't score based on their personal lives.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Caleb Plant vs David Benavidez
Post by: mirakal on March 02, 2023, 07:43:12 PM
I urge you to watch the kick off press conference:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hvz6ai6ZqFU

Hehehe, it was very heated, Benavidez mouth was running and trash talking the hell out of Caleb Plant.

It was very intense that they can go fighting in that podium. Maybe Caleb hit it on the mark when he says that Benavidez has issues before like not making weight and the drugs that's why he is so furious and continue to attack Caleb verbally.

But in any case it's already living to the hype in their first press conference.

Obviously, Benavidez hates Caleb Plant there's too much disrespect for Caleb Plant, I consider Benavidez a better fighter but I want Plant to knock him out, Benavidez is too brazen its understandable because the drug issue is very sensitive for Benavidez, this is just the first conference I expect the thrash talks to be more heated and they may even have a brawl if Caleb keeps hitting him.
Thrashtalks like this with both fighters hating each other are good for the preparation of the fight night.

I would agree that maybe Benavidez went overboard here, there's so much hate and disrespect, you can actually feel it when watch the pressere.

So by now it's hard to like the personality of Benavidez and his father, and remember that this is the just the first press conference, just wait till the face off and maybe we will see another Canelo vs Plant action hehehe. Let's see if Benavidez can back up all his trash talking, we know that he has the tools though, but Caleb after this, might be fueling inside and wanted to punch that big mouth of David.
You’re right. Plant must have been disrespected so much that he’s eagerness to fight back Benavidez has completely reach the highest level. Well, this is a good motivation either to finally become one of the toughest boxer as his opponent is always tough and hard to beat inside the ring. But I still believe trash talking never make them great at all, unless if Benavidez can prove all his words against Plant and he can prove to anyone that he can dominate Plant inside the ring.

Well, we couldn't ask for more because this is the exact thing that we wanted to happen where both camps will be intense because the trash talks are getting into their skins.

This will be fun because both boxers are too eager to finish the fight with a bang because of what happened between them. But I agree, Benavidez might've gone too deep with that because Caleb wasn't happy afterwards and I won't be surprised if Caleb will suddenly explode in the day of their fight. I guess he should already know the purpose of these trash talks.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Caleb Plant vs David Benavidez
Post by: freedomgo on March 03, 2023, 08:33:37 PM
I do not think that Caleb Plant has any real chance against David Benavidez. For Benavidez this entire fight is just basically a PR/marketing stunt to do right by his fans and his image as well as his overall boxing career. If it was not for his cocaine embarrassment, this fight would probably never even take place.

He did not take any drugs which would enhance his fighting skills/abilities or training regiments, its just him being punished for being found out. This changes nothing  in his fighting ability, though. Which is why its going to be an easy win.

I see no reason to punish him for his drug habit other than deceiving his fans who bet money on him to be physically and mentally healthy in his fights. His habit might get him in prison or he might have a heart attack. I guess this makes us feel a bit uneasy to bet on him.

A drug test is part of any sports regulation so David being caught positive deserved punishment. And who knows, his family or any member of his family is also part of the syndicate. Do you remember when his older brother Jose another big potential in boxing was shot and hit in the leg? That injury affected Jose's footwork and was stopped by Crawford.

Anyways, I also think David will be like a bull in the ring, too strong and too heavy-handed against Caleb. Caleb needs to hit David with a damaging shot to get his respect, otherwise, David will just continue to become aggressive and might even open himself to lure Caleb's defense. I see a David stoppage in the 2nd half of the fight but I am hoping for the underdog Caleb to pull an upset.

David Benavidez getting his punishment in the past was already enough for him because every move has always a consequence entailed, but speculating or accusing that maybe one or two of his family are also using it? That's quite a bit too much mate, and if ever you are right, we don't have any right to prosecute them because that's their personal life.

I bet you wouldn't want the same thing too and hear that somebody is accusing you or a member of your family, right? So, let's just focus on the topic and let their personal lives out of this.

Yeah it was in the past and he's now in this stage likewise drug test is a part of any sport and if David will get the go signal, then we will see him inside the ring and will showcase his talent, I don't want to go with their personal life as it's their position to decide where to bring it, I'm more on the capabilities of these two fighters in trying to win over one another.


Yes exactly, especially as a bettor, we should just focus on their talents and strengths to see who got more chances to win in this fight as that's what we needed in order to increase our chances as well. We won't get anywhere if we are also taking affairs on their personal life because that's already none of our business, we know that judges doesn't score based on their personal lives.

I couldn't agree more with that. So, let's just separate their personal lives from their professional career as there no need to discuss such topic because it won't help the fans decide where to lean on and as well as the bettors, it won't certainly help them to decide where to bet because people are giving more time discussing about the irrelevant topics.

Anyway, back to the fight. This is good because both boxer did established a sourly and intense tempo towards each other, the fans are delighted for sure about it and already excited to see the fight before this month ends. As for me, I'm currently leaning on David Benavidez.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Caleb Plant vs David Benavidez
Post by: 2double0 on March 03, 2023, 08:51:15 PM
Based on the recent past with Benavidez and the wins by Plant, I don't think it will be an easy win fight for Benavidez and he could also lose to Plant following he used cocaine in his fights before which is against the rule. I'd place a bet on Caleb Plant as he signed this contract and came ahead to fight out, and I believe that passion pays off so if Benavidez loses to Plant, it'll prove that he used to win his matches due to his drug addiction.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Caleb Plant vs David Benavidez
Post by: Baofeng on March 03, 2023, 10:34:34 PM
Based on the recent past with Benavidez and the wins by Plant, I don't think it will be an easy win fight for Benavidez and he could also lose to Plant following he used cocaine in his fights before which is against the rule. I'd place a bet on Caleb Plant as he signed this contract and came ahead to fight out, and I believe that passion pays off so if Benavidez loses to Plant, it'll prove that he used to win his matches due to his drug addiction.

I agree though, but I don't now what is in the system of David right now as he has been bursting with confidence him and his father are really getting into Caleb and they wanted to win a knockout.

And David said that he wanted to go as high as cruiserweight division,

Quote
“So right now, I definitely want to go up to 175,” said Benavidez to Fight Hub TV during a recent interview. “I know I can win the belt at 175.”

I think it’s definitely very possible but right now, my sights are on 68. I want to be unified world champion at 68, go up to 75 and I think it definitely could be a possibility, cruiserweight.”

https://www.boxingscene.com/david-benavidez-rule-out-future-cruiserweight-run--172841

But it will already be difficult to fight at 75 with Beterbiev and Bivol, he has history with Bivol though as they used to be sparring partners in the past. But let's see first if he can deliver what he has been saying in this fight against Caleb Plant.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Caleb Plant vs David Benavidez
Post by: Ryker1 on March 03, 2023, 10:45:16 PM
Based on the recent past with Benavidez and the wins by Plant, I don't think it will be an easy win fight for Benavidez and he could also lose to Plant following he used cocaine in his fights before which is against the rule. I'd place a bet on Caleb Plant as he signed this contract and came ahead to fight out, and I believe that passion pays off so if Benavidez loses to Plant, it'll prove that he used to win his matches due to his drug addiction.
Well, let us see who will win in end.
Take a look here, Caleb Plant is undefeated with 21 wins and has shown impressive speed and precision in his fights. While David Benavidez has a record of 24 wins with only one loss and has a reputation for being a powerful and aggressive fighter.
We hope this will not negatively impact the issue of Benavidez's past cocaine use, remember that he has served his suspension and completed the required rehabilitation program. While the use of illegal substances is against the rules, it would be unfair to attribute all of Benavidez's past victories solely to drug use. It is important to judge each fighter based on their skills and performance in the ring. Let us see what will happen.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Caleb Plant vs David Benavidez
Post by: DoublerHunter on March 03, 2023, 10:51:56 PM
I do not think that Caleb Plant has any real chance against David Benavidez. For Benavidez this entire fight is just basically a PR/marketing stunt to do right by his fans and his image as well as his overall boxing career. If it was not for his cocaine embarrassment, this fight would probably never even take place.

He did not take any drugs which would enhance his fighting skills/abilities or training regiments, its just him being punished for being found out. This changes nothing  in his fighting ability, though. Which is why its going to be an easy win.

I see no reason to punish him for his drug habit other than deceiving his fans who bet money on him to be physically and mentally healthy in his fights. His habit might get him in prison or he might have a heart attack. I guess this makes us feel a bit uneasy to bet on him.

A drug test is part of any sports regulation so David being caught positive deserved punishment. And who knows, his family or any member of his family is also part of the syndicate. Do you remember when his older brother Jose another big potential in boxing was shot and hit in the leg? That injury affected Jose's footwork and was stopped by Crawford.

Anyways, I also think David will be like a bull in the ring, too strong and too heavy-handed against Caleb. Caleb needs to hit David with a damaging shot to get his respect, otherwise, David will just continue to become aggressive and might even open himself to lure Caleb's defense. I see a David stoppage in the 2nd half of the fight but I am hoping for the underdog Caleb to pull an upset.

David Benavidez getting his punishment in the past was already enough for him because every move has always a consequence entailed, but speculating or accusing that maybe one or two of his family are also using it? That's quite a bit too much mate, and if ever you are right, we don't have any right to prosecute them because that's their personal life.

I bet you wouldn't want the same thing too and hear that somebody is accusing you or a member of your family, right? So, let's just focus on the topic and let their personal lives out of this.
^Definitely right and I completely agree with your point that speculating or accusing David Benavidez's family members of drug use is not fair and is crossing a line. It is important to separate personal lives from professional careers and judge each fighter based on their performance in the ring. The use of illegal substances is against the rules, and David Benavidez has already faced the consequences of his actions. As you rightly pointed out, we should not be quick to judge or accuse someone or their family members without any evidence. Therefore, let us focus on the topic at hand and leave their personal lives out of this. It is a show of respect to them and I get it right.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Caleb Plant vs David Benavidez
Post by: Fredomago on March 04, 2023, 06:43:34 AM

Yes exactly, especially as a bettor, we should just focus on their talents and strengths to see who got more chances to win in this fight as that's what we needed in order to increase our chances as well. We won't get anywhere if we are also taking affairs on their personal life because that's already none of our business, we know that judges doesn't score based on their personal lives.

Good point, more on their individual skills and how you anticipate the executions of their preparations for this upcoming fight, if we project them to have a good advantage then we can place our spare money under the name of whoever we pick to win the game, though there are different types of gamblers and some will wait for additional offer aside from the ML.

I like to follow that idea. Judges will not judge the fight if in case decision is needed based on their personal lives, but instead on how they perform during the fight. Just saying!


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Caleb Plant vs David Benavidez
Post by: Kemarit on March 04, 2023, 09:24:18 AM
Based on the recent past with Benavidez and the wins by Plant, I don't think it will be an easy win fight for Benavidez and he could also lose to Plant following he used cocaine in his fights before which is against the rule. I'd place a bet on Caleb Plant as he signed this contract and came ahead to fight out, and I believe that passion pays off so if Benavidez loses to Plant, it'll prove that he used to win his matches due to his drug addiction.
Well, let us see who will win in end.
Take a look here, Caleb Plant is undefeated with 21 wins and has shown impressive speed and precision in his fights. While David Benavidez has a record of 24 wins with only one loss and has a reputation for being a powerful and aggressive fighter.

Not sure where you get this numbers though, as per boxrec

David Benavidez - https://boxrec.com/en/box-pro/672259 (26-0)
Caleb Plant - https://boxrec.com/en/box-pro/684493 (22-1)

Caleb was known for fighting Canelo and losing that fight, so he is not undefeated, while Benavidez hasn't lost at all and has a good KO percentage

We hope this will not negatively impact the issue of Benavidez's past cocaine use, remember that he has served his suspension and completed the required rehabilitation program. While the use of illegal substances is against the rules, it would be unfair to attribute all of Benavidez's past victories solely to drug use. It is important to judge each fighter based on their skills and performance in the ring. Let us see what will happen.

I do agree that it might take a toll on his body, but is was like 5 years ago when he was caught with that in his system. And so far fighting 2018 and beyond he still hasn't lost so not sure if there is a bad effect on him. And this drugs doesn't help boxers to win, it's not a performance enhancing drugs (PED).


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Caleb Plant vs David Benavidez
Post by: btc_angela on March 04, 2023, 10:21:34 AM
Based on the recent past with Benavidez and the wins by Plant, I don't think it will be an easy win fight for Benavidez and he could also lose to Plant following he used cocaine in his fights before which is against the rule. I'd place a bet on Caleb Plant as he signed this contract and came ahead to fight out, and I believe that passion pays off so if Benavidez loses to Plant, it'll prove that he used to win his matches due to his drug addiction.

I agree though, but I don't now what is in the system of David right now as he has been bursting with confidence him and his father are really getting into Caleb and they wanted to win a knockout.

And David said that he wanted to go as high as cruiserweight division,

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“So right now, I definitely want to go up to 175,” said Benavidez to Fight Hub TV during a recent interview. “I know I can win the belt at 175.”

I think it’s definitely very possible but right now, my sights are on 68. I want to be unified world champion at 68, go up to 75 and I think it definitely could be a possibility, cruiserweight.”

https://www.boxingscene.com/david-benavidez-rule-out-future-cruiserweight-run--172841

But it will already be difficult to fight at 75 with Beterbiev and Bivol, he has history with Bivol though as they used to be sparring partners in the past. But let's see first if he can deliver what he has been saying in this fight against Caleb Plant.


Hmm, he might be asking too much here, as the expression goes, "biting more than you can chew". He should stay first at 168 lbs and see how his career with go here, it could be his perfect weight, his height and age are good for this class.

If he goes to 175 lbs, not only those two Russians, but maybe those rank boxers could be different to beat as it is their natural weight.

So what's more if he is targeting CW, I think this is due to Jack Badou winning against Makabu that this super middleweight thinks they can jump as high as CW, in my opinion.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Caleb Plant vs David Benavidez
Post by: mirakal on March 04, 2023, 05:37:32 PM
Based on the recent past with Benavidez and the wins by Plant, I don't think it will be an easy win fight for Benavidez and he could also lose to Plant following he used cocaine in his fights before which is against the rule. I'd place a bet on Caleb Plant as he signed this contract and came ahead to fight out, and I believe that passion pays off so if Benavidez loses to Plant, it'll prove that he used to win his matches due to his drug addiction.

I agree though, but I don't now what is in the system of David right now as he has been bursting with confidence him and his father are really getting into Caleb and they wanted to win a knockout.

And David said that he wanted to go as high as cruiserweight division,

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“So right now, I definitely want to go up to 175,” said Benavidez to Fight Hub TV during a recent interview. “I know I can win the belt at 175.”

I think it’s definitely very possible but right now, my sights are on 68. I want to be unified world champion at 68, go up to 75 and I think it definitely could be a possibility, cruiserweight.”

https://www.boxingscene.com/david-benavidez-rule-out-future-cruiserweight-run--172841

But it will already be difficult to fight at 75 with Beterbiev and Bivol, he has history with Bivol though as they used to be sparring partners in the past. But let's see first if he can deliver what he has been saying in this fight against Caleb Plant.


Hmm, he might be asking too much here, as the expression goes, "biting more than you can chew". He should stay first at 168 lbs and see how his career with go here, it could be his perfect weight, his height and age are good for this class.

If he goes to 175 lbs, not only those two Russians, but maybe those rank boxers could be different to beat as it is their natural weight.

So what's more if he is targeting CW, I think this is due to Jack Badou winning against Makabu that this super middleweight thinks they can jump as high as CW, in my opinion.

We can't really stop him if he sees himself at 175 or as high as 200 but he should know that not everything is attainable even if you're someone that talented is talented enough, no matter what he do, David Benavidez is still a human being with limits. He should explore this current division first and it is just too early for him to say that things because he haven't proved himself yet and become a champion.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Caleb Plant vs David Benavidez
Post by: Baofeng on March 04, 2023, 11:43:30 PM
Based on the recent past with Benavidez and the wins by Plant, I don't think it will be an easy win fight for Benavidez and he could also lose to Plant following he used cocaine in his fights before which is against the rule. I'd place a bet on Caleb Plant as he signed this contract and came ahead to fight out, and I believe that passion pays off so if Benavidez loses to Plant, it'll prove that he used to win his matches due to his drug addiction.

I agree though, but I don't now what is in the system of David right now as he has been bursting with confidence him and his father are really getting into Caleb and they wanted to win a knockout.

And David said that he wanted to go as high as cruiserweight division,

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“So right now, I definitely want to go up to 175,” said Benavidez to Fight Hub TV during a recent interview. “I know I can win the belt at 175.”

I think it’s definitely very possible but right now, my sights are on 68. I want to be unified world champion at 68, go up to 75 and I think it definitely could be a possibility, cruiserweight.”

https://www.boxingscene.com/david-benavidez-rule-out-future-cruiserweight-run--172841

But it will already be difficult to fight at 75 with Beterbiev and Bivol, he has history with Bivol though as they used to be sparring partners in the past. But let's see first if he can deliver what he has been saying in this fight against Caleb Plant.


Hmm, he might be asking too much here, as the expression goes, "biting more than you can chew". He should stay first at 168 lbs and see how his career with go here, it could be his perfect weight, his height and age are good for this class.

If he goes to 175 lbs, not only those two Russians, but maybe those rank boxers could be different to beat as it is their natural weight.

So what's more if he is targeting CW, I think this is due to Jack Badou winning against Makabu that this super middleweight thinks they can jump as high as CW, in my opinion.

We can't really stop him if he sees himself at 175 or as high as 200 but he should know that not everything is attainable even if you're someone that talented is talented enough, no matter what he do, David Benavidez is still a human being with limits. He should explore this current division first and it is just too early for him to say that things because he haven't proved himself yet and become a champion.

Yes we can't stop him, many boxers as well in the past have that ambition to move up in weight and claim the belt. But only few and very gifted athletes have done that in the past, Floyd, Manny, Oscar Dela Hoya to name a few.

Oscar though tasted defeated when he tries to go as high as middleweight and fight his now GBP partner in Bernard Hopkins and get knock out in a body punch. So lets see how far David can go in his career.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Caleb Plant vs David Benavidez
Post by: Vaculin on March 05, 2023, 08:41:51 PM
Based on the recent past with Benavidez and the wins by Plant, I don't think it will be an easy win fight for Benavidez and he could also lose to Plant following he used cocaine in his fights before which is against the rule. I'd place a bet on Caleb Plant as he signed this contract and came ahead to fight out, and I believe that passion pays off so if Benavidez loses to Plant, it'll prove that he used to win his matches due to his drug addiction.

I agree though, but I don't now what is in the system of David right now as he has been bursting with confidence him and his father are really getting into Caleb and they wanted to win a knockout.

And David said that he wanted to go as high as cruiserweight division,

Quote
“So right now, I definitely want to go up to 175,” said Benavidez to Fight Hub TV during a recent interview. “I know I can win the belt at 175.”

I think it’s definitely very possible but right now, my sights are on 68. I want to be unified world champion at 68, go up to 75 and I think it definitely could be a possibility, cruiserweight.”

https://www.boxingscene.com/david-benavidez-rule-out-future-cruiserweight-run--172841

But it will already be difficult to fight at 75 with Beterbiev and Bivol, he has history with Bivol though as they used to be sparring partners in the past. But let's see first if he can deliver what he has been saying in this fight against Caleb Plant.


Hmm, he might be asking too much here, as the expression goes, "biting more than you can chew". He should stay first at 168 lbs and see how his career with go here, it could be his perfect weight, his height and age are good for this class.

If he goes to 175 lbs, not only those two Russians, but maybe those rank boxers could be different to beat as it is their natural weight.

So what's more if he is targeting CW, I think this is due to Jack Badou winning against Makabu that this super middleweight thinks they can jump as high as CW, in my opinion.

We can't really stop him if he sees himself at 175 or as high as 200 but he should know that not everything is attainable even if you're someone that talented is talented enough, no matter what he do, David Benavidez is still a human being with limits. He should explore this current division first and it is just too early for him to say that things because he haven't proved himself yet and become a champion.

Yes we can't stop him, many boxers as well in the past have that ambition to move up in weight and claim the belt. But only few and very gifted athletes have done that in the past, Floyd, Manny, Oscar Dela Hoya to name a few.

Oscar though tasted defeated when he tries to go as high as middleweight and fight his now GBP partner in Bernard Hopkins and get knock out in a body punch. So lets see how far David can go in his career.

But who knows how far can David go, right? As per boxrec.com, David's official height is 6'2 which is much taller than Dmitry Bivol, one of the two champion at LHW.

So I'm thinking that he might successfully campaign at 175 or even 200 if he would like because his height will somehow make a difference given that he's also a talent boxer who also got a good KO rate. But just like what @mirakal said, he should first do a clean-up job at 168 to see if he can really make a difference in a much heavier division. Besides, not all boxers can bring their strengths when climbing different weight class.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Caleb Plant vs David Benavidez
Post by: Baofeng on March 05, 2023, 09:58:15 PM
^^ Yes, that is only one thing if you started at a weight class of like 168-175 lbs, you have to  clean up your division first because you can only go as high as you body will allow you to. Unlike those who have started in much lower class, then can go to 5 division up and become a champion.

Yes, he is taller than Bivol but you can see his body is very different. Bivol seems to be natural 175 lbs, but he says he can go down to 168 lbs. While David physique is somewhat different in my opinion, if he will add pounds to his body, it seems to be more on his "stomach" and not pure muscle. Even at 168 lbs he is more weight around his belly.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Caleb Plant vs David Benavidez
Post by: Japinat on March 07, 2023, 07:30:05 PM
^^ Yes, that is only one thing if you started at a weight class of like 168-175 lbs, you have to  clean up your division first because you can only go as high as you body will allow you to. Unlike those who have started in much lower class, then can go to 5 division up and become a champion.

Yes, he is taller than Bivol but you can see his body is very different. Bivol seems to be natural 175 lbs, but he says he can go down to 168 lbs. While David physique is somewhat different in my opinion, if he will add pounds to his body, it seems to be more on his "stomach" and not pure muscle. Even at 168 lbs he is more weight around his belly.

That got me curious too because I'm thinking what is David's natural weight these days, it seems to me that he is just forcing his body to shrink at 168 even though it looks like that he is more suitable at 175. At 168, he is already bloated and not that fit like the guys who got a natural weight at 168 like Canelo and Plant.

But anyway, too much on the speculation side as we will probably get the answers on our mind soon enough. Now, let's focus on David vs Caleb fight. I know there are many people rooting for David and that includes me, but I cannot really disregard Caleb's talent in the ring as the guy also got a good IQ what to do once he's inside dancing with a foe.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Caleb Plant vs David Benavidez
Post by: Jating on March 08, 2023, 06:39:26 PM
^^ Yes, that is only one thing if you started at a weight class of like 168-175 lbs, you have to  clean up your division first because you can only go as high as you body will allow you to. Unlike those who have started in much lower class, then can go to 5 division up and become a champion.

Yes, he is taller than Bivol but you can see his body is very different. Bivol seems to be natural 175 lbs, but he says he can go down to 168 lbs. While David physique is somewhat different in my opinion, if he will add pounds to his body, it seems to be more on his "stomach" and not pure muscle. Even at 168 lbs he is more weight around his belly.

That got me curious too because I'm thinking what is David's natural weight these days, it seems to me that he is just forcing his body to shrink at 168 even though it looks like that he is more suitable at 175. At 168, he is already bloated and not that fit like the guys who got a natural weight at 168 like Canelo and Plant.

But anyway, too much on the speculation side as we will probably get the answers on our mind soon enough. Now, let's focus on David vs Caleb fight. I know there are many people rooting for David and that includes me, but I cannot really disregard Caleb's talent in the ring as the guy also got a good IQ what to do once he's inside dancing with a foe.

Yeah, with how he looks like right, not sure if he can bulk it up to 175 lbs without losing any power or at least he can still punch as he might shows some of being slow already.

But let's see, he has a lot of ambitions and it seems his first take is against Canelo. So most likely, if he win this fight against Caleb he will insert his name against Alvarez again. He doesn't have the control though, Canelo is not keen on fighting boxers who doesn't deserve a paycheck against him, specially if he will be a threat to his 168 lbs. So it might take some time for David to have his time against Canelo, as he have a schedule tune up with Ryder and then maybe Bivol next.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Caleb Plant vs David Benavidez
Post by: Japinat on March 09, 2023, 07:27:21 PM
^^ Yes, that is only one thing if you started at a weight class of like 168-175 lbs, you have to  clean up your division first because you can only go as high as you body will allow you to. Unlike those who have started in much lower class, then can go to 5 division up and become a champion.

Yes, he is taller than Bivol but you can see his body is very different. Bivol seems to be natural 175 lbs, but he says he can go down to 168 lbs. While David physique is somewhat different in my opinion, if he will add pounds to his body, it seems to be more on his "stomach" and not pure muscle. Even at 168 lbs he is more weight around his belly.

That got me curious too because I'm thinking what is David's natural weight these days, it seems to me that he is just forcing his body to shrink at 168 even though it looks like that he is more suitable at 175. At 168, he is already bloated and not that fit like the guys who got a natural weight at 168 like Canelo and Plant.

But anyway, too much on the speculation side as we will probably get the answers on our mind soon enough. Now, let's focus on David vs Caleb fight. I know there are many people rooting for David and that includes me, but I cannot really disregard Caleb's talent in the ring as the guy also got a good IQ what to do once he's inside dancing with a foe.

Yeah, with how he looks like right, not sure if he can bulk it up to 175 lbs without losing any power or at least he can still punch as he might shows some of being slow already.

But let's see, he has a lot of ambitions and it seems his first take is against Canelo. So most likely, if he win this fight against Caleb he will insert his name against Alvarez again. He doesn't have the control though, Canelo is not keen on fighting boxers who doesn't deserve a paycheck against him, specially if he will be a threat to his 168 lbs. So it might take some time for David to have his time against Canelo, as he have a schedule tune up with Ryder and then maybe Bivol next.

I know David is a decent boxer who is currently an underrated now but even with that fact, I'm still not that convinced that he can take up Canelo Alvarez who is still at the height of his prime and I think it's not just me but a lot of people around the world as well will be watching him prove himself against Caleb Plant on this fight. By then, people will somehow know if David does have a chance on the undisputed title or not, that depends on the outcome.

The Light-heavyweight division is somehow far from David's reach as of now because even if he defeat Plant on the process, his only option to fight Canelo is if Canelo will get a mandatory defense fight which means he will have to wait for another years because Canelo is not yet due for any mandatory fight.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Caleb Plant vs David Benavidez
Post by: Fredomago on March 09, 2023, 08:10:23 PM
^^ Yes, that is only one thing if you started at a weight class of like 168-175 lbs, you have to  clean up your division first because you can only go as high as you body will allow you to. Unlike those who have started in much lower class, then can go to 5 division up and become a champion.

Yes, he is taller than Bivol but you can see his body is very different. Bivol seems to be natural 175 lbs, but he says he can go down to 168 lbs. While David physique is somewhat different in my opinion, if he will add pounds to his body, it seems to be more on his "stomach" and not pure muscle. Even at 168 lbs he is more weight around his belly.

That got me curious too because I'm thinking what is David's natural weight these days, it seems to me that he is just forcing his body to shrink at 168 even though it looks like that he is more suitable at 175. At 168, he is already bloated and not that fit like the guys who got a natural weight at 168 like Canelo and Plant.

But anyway, too much on the speculation side as we will probably get the answers on our mind soon enough. Now, let's focus on David vs Caleb fight. I know there are many people rooting for David and that includes me, but I cannot really disregard Caleb's talent in the ring as the guy also got a good IQ what to do once he's inside dancing with a foe.

Yeah, with how he looks like right, not sure if he can bulk it up to 175 lbs without losing any power or at least he can still punch as he might shows some of being slow already.

But let's see, he has a lot of ambitions and it seems his first take is against Canelo. So most likely, if he win this fight against Caleb he will insert his name against Alvarez again. He doesn't have the control though, Canelo is not keen on fighting boxers who doesn't deserve a paycheck against him, specially if he will be a threat to his 168 lbs. So it might take some time for David to have his time against Canelo, as he have a schedule tune up with Ryder and then maybe Bivol next.

I know David is a decent boxer who is currently an underrated now but even with that fact, I'm still not that convinced that he can take up Canelo Alvarez who is still at the height of his prime and I think it's not just me but a lot of people around the world as well will be watching him prove himself against Caleb Plant on this fight. By then, people will somehow know if David does have a chance on the undisputed title or not, that depends on the outcome.

The Light-heavyweight division is somehow far from David's reach as of now because even if he defeat Plant on the process, his only option to fight Canelo is if Canelo will get a mandatory defense fight which means he will have to wait for another years because Canelo is not yet due for any mandatory fight.

Or maybe the hypes for his name to be called out by the fans and pressure Canelo's camp with a huge amount of prize money at stake, we know that this sport is not just for the fame but more on the money side, if ever he manage to beat Plant in a very convincing way, the chance that fans will call for it to negotiate with Canelo's camp might take place.

Just assuming or it's a personal assumption which is also possible if the price is right!

But moving forward, we need to wait for the outcome before we can assume to any possible next upcoming matchup.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Caleb Plant vs David Benavidez
Post by: btc_angela on March 09, 2023, 09:10:30 PM
^^ Any fight has it's price, Caleb Plant though will be too small for 175 lbs, in my opinion. For David, yes, let's see if he can do what he has been talking about, on how he is going to knock out Plant.

So this is a measuring stick, sort of a gauge on how he can move on his career. I mean, he seems to be underestimating Caleb and disrespecting the guy and hopefully it won't backfire on him. And if he wins this fight convincingly, then his name might be in contention for the Canelo fight. Still up to Canelo on whoever he wanted next.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Caleb Plant vs David Benavidez
Post by: Baofeng on March 12, 2023, 11:44:15 PM
Caleb said that he was surprised by Benavidez antics, for him it's just a show and let everyone knows that he is the tougher guy. But Caleb is not deter with all the talks according to him. He will really come full prepared in this fight and as we have said, he seems to rediscovered his punching power, specially with how he knockouts Dirrell with that left hook. Just a couple of days from this fight, the face-off in the weigh-in will be huge for the fans and again we should expect the trash talking specially from David, and Caleb be cool with that or either shows his emotions. Plant is still 3:1 underdog in this fight.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Caleb Plant vs David Benavidez
Post by: Kasabus on March 13, 2023, 02:39:02 AM
Caleb said that he was surprised by Benavidez antics, for him it's just a show and let everyone knows that he is the tougher guy. But Caleb is not deter with all the talks according to him. He will really come full prepared in this fight and as we have said, he seems to rediscovered his punching power, specially with how he knockouts Dirrell with that left hook. Just a couple of days from this fight, the face-off in the weigh-in will be huge for the fans and again we should expect the trash talking specially from David, and Caleb be cool with that or either shows his emotions. Plant is still 3:1 underdog in this fight.

He shouldn't be deterred about David's antics because he is on a crusade to get back and fight Canelo Alvarez again, he should remain calm and let his performance in the upcoming fight do the talk as that is what the people wanted from him especially that many doubted him in this fight. He is an underdog in this fight despite what he did in his career and KO'd Anthony Dirrell just recently in the 9th round.

This will be a good fight, both boxers are targeting the undisputed title holder and that means that they wouldn't give each other an advantage that they would regret as they both know each other's capability.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Caleb Plant vs David Benavidez
Post by: DevilSlayer on March 13, 2023, 05:29:09 AM
Caleb said that he was surprised by Benavidez antics, for him it's just a show and let everyone knows that he is the tougher guy. But Caleb is not deter with all the talks according to him. He will really come full prepared in this fight and as we have said, he seems to rediscovered his punching power, specially with how he knockouts Dirrell with that left hook. Just a couple of days from this fight, the face-off in the weigh-in will be huge for the fans and again we should expect the trash talking specially from David, and Caleb be cool with that or either shows his emotions. Plant is still 3:1 underdog in this fight.
The rank #4 and the rank #5 in the in super middle champion will finally held a fight this March 26. This fight is been waiting by a lot of boxing fans around the world, we all know that both boxers have beef with each other and once for all; they will settle it in this Month. I never thought that plant is very humble and his coolness is really unreal white Benvidez showing his passion to the sport. I sawa the videos of them both, arguing and trashtalking and it seems that both of them are ready to eanter the ring.

It is true that plant is the underdog even though he only lose once to Canelo. Benavidez has high K.O. rate which is 88% while Caleb Plant has only 56% K.O rate. Benevidez also have 0 loss and current have 3 belts. For me it is the reason why he has upper hand in this match. The pressure will be on Caleb plant, both of them are strong fighters and I know that they will fight with their best effort and strength.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Caleb Plant vs David Benavidez
Post by: Ziskinberg on March 13, 2023, 06:16:11 AM
It is true that plant is the underdog even though he only lose once to Canelo. Benavidez has high K.O. rate which is 88% while Caleb Plant has only 56% K.O rate. Benevidez also have 0 loss and current have 3 belts. For me it is the reason why he has upper hand in this match. The pressure will be on Caleb plant, both of them are strong fighters and I know that they will fight with their best effort and strength.

The winner of this fight will have a shot at fighting Canelo Alvarez. Of course, Caleb won't be able to win here because a fight between Canelo and Benavidez would generate more hype. For Benavidez, being an aging fighter, it would be good for him to get a big fight before his retirement.

So, for bettors who think that Caleb Plant will win, it might be wise to take the moneyline bet, as it provides decent odds.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Caleb Plant vs David Benavidez
Post by: Jating on March 13, 2023, 07:41:31 AM
Caleb said that he was surprised by Benavidez antics, for him it's just a show and let everyone knows that he is the tougher guy. But Caleb is not deter with all the talks according to him. He will really come full prepared in this fight and as we have said, he seems to rediscovered his punching power, specially with how he knockouts Dirrell with that left hook. Just a couple of days from this fight, the face-off in the weigh-in will be huge for the fans and again we should expect the trash talking specially from David, and Caleb be cool with that or either shows his emotions. Plant is still 3:1 underdog in this fight.

He shouldn't be deterred about David's antics because he is on a crusade to get back and fight Canelo Alvarez again, he should remain calm and let his performance in the upcoming fight do the talk as that is what the people wanted from him especially that many doubted him in this fight. He is an underdog in this fight despite what he did in his career and KO'd Anthony Dirrell just recently in the 9th round.

This will be a good fight, both boxers are targeting the undisputed title holder and that means that they wouldn't give each other an advantage that they would regret as they both know each other's capability.

I think that is what Caleb Plant is trying to see here, he consider it just a antics from David's camp, maybe to sell the fight. So with such statement from him, he wouldn't be deterred on the contrary he might channel what he sees on Benavidez and try to beat him on his own game.

We all know that fighters have pride when they see that they are the underdog in a fight. But again, if he could channel that negativity and uses it and not thinking about it, then maybe he can upset Benavidez here, just saying.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Caleb Plant vs David Benavidez
Post by: carlisle1 on March 13, 2023, 09:10:09 AM
It is true that plant is the underdog even though he only lose once to Canelo. Benavidez has high K.O. rate which is 88% while Caleb Plant has only 56% K.O rate. Benevidez also have 0 loss and current have 3 belts. For me it is the reason why he has upper hand in this match. The pressure will be on Caleb plant, both of them are strong fighters and I know that they will fight with their best effort and strength.

The winner of this fight will have a shot at fighting Canelo Alvarez. Of course, Caleb won't be able to win here because a fight between Canelo and Benavidez would generate more hype. For Benavidez, being an aging fighter, it would be good for him to get a big fight before his retirement.

So, for bettors who think that Caleb Plant will win, it might be wise to take the moneyline bet, as it provides decent odds.

Yup, for those who still believing that Plant can win this one better to take the ML, in boxing we all know that upset can take place and no one
can conclude the possible outcome while the fight is not happening yet.

We can all speculate and provide our own opinions about the fight, most of the time we are basing our conviction with previous fight that we've seen.

But the actual fight or faceoff will decide whether our analysis is right or wrong.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Caleb Plant vs David Benavidez
Post by: Kemarit on March 13, 2023, 11:25:45 AM
Caleb said that he was surprised by Benavidez antics, for him it's just a show and let everyone knows that he is the tougher guy. But Caleb is not deter with all the talks according to him. He will really come full prepared in this fight and as we have said, he seems to rediscovered his punching power, specially with how he knockouts Dirrell with that left hook. Just a couple of days from this fight, the face-off in the weigh-in will be huge for the fans and again we should expect the trash talking specially from David, and Caleb be cool with that or either shows his emotions. Plant is still 3:1 underdog in this fight.

He shouldn't be deterred about David's antics because he is on a crusade to get back and fight Canelo Alvarez again, he should remain calm and let his performance in the upcoming fight do the talk as that is what the people wanted from him especially that many doubted him in this fight. He is an underdog in this fight despite what he did in his career and KO'd Anthony Dirrell just recently in the 9th round.

This will be a good fight, both boxers are targeting the undisputed title holder and that means that they wouldn't give each other an advantage that they would regret as they both know each other's capability.

I think that is what Caleb Plant is trying to see here, he consider it just a antics from David's camp, maybe to sell the fight. So with such statement from him, he wouldn't be deterred on the contrary he might channel what he sees on Benavidez and try to beat him on his own game.

We all know that fighters have pride when they see that they are the underdog in a fight. But again, if he could channel that negativity and uses it and not thinking about it, then maybe he can upset Benavidez here, just saying.

The time to sell the fight is over now, and by this time they should have been unwinding their trainings, maybe just few touch ups as they don't want to be over train. They just need to be peaking on the fight itself and after the final weigh-in, rehydrate and focus on the fight and forgot what they have been saying against each other. Because if they focus on it, they might have been affected mentally, specially on what David has been throwing on the side of Plant. Psychological war is part of boxing or any any sports, others call it trash talking. But if boxers can deflect that and just motivate and concentrate on the fight, then that's what separate the good boxers from the elite and high level prize fighters, IMHO.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Caleb Plant vs David Benavidez
Post by: Natalim on March 13, 2023, 08:29:15 PM
Caleb said that he was surprised by Benavidez antics, for him it's just a show and let everyone knows that he is the tougher guy. But Caleb is not deter with all the talks according to him. He will really come full prepared in this fight and as we have said, he seems to rediscovered his punching power, specially with how he knockouts Dirrell with that left hook. Just a couple of days from this fight, the face-off in the weigh-in will be huge for the fans and again we should expect the trash talking specially from David, and Caleb be cool with that or either shows his emotions. Plant is still 3:1 underdog in this fight.

He shouldn't be deterred about David's antics because he is on a crusade to get back and fight Canelo Alvarez again, he should remain calm and let his performance in the upcoming fight do the talk as that is what the people wanted from him especially that many doubted him in this fight. He is an underdog in this fight despite what he did in his career and KO'd Anthony Dirrell just recently in the 9th round.

This will be a good fight, both boxers are targeting the undisputed title holder and that means that they wouldn't give each other an advantage that they would regret as they both know each other's capability.

I think that is what Caleb Plant is trying to see here, he consider it just a antics from David's camp, maybe to sell the fight. So with such statement from him, he wouldn't be deterred on the contrary he might channel what he sees on Benavidez and try to beat him on his own game.

We all know that fighters have pride when they see that they are the underdog in a fight. But again, if he could channel that negativity and uses it and not thinking about it, then maybe he can upset Benavidez here, just saying.

The time to sell the fight is over now, and by this time they should have been unwinding their trainings, maybe just few touch ups as they don't want to be over train. They just need to be peaking on the fight itself and after the final weigh-in, rehydrate and focus on the fight and forgot what they have been saying against each other. Because if they focus on it, they might have been affected mentally, specially on what David has been throwing on the side of Plant. Psychological war is part of boxing or any any sports, others call it trash talking. But if boxers can deflect that and just motivate and concentrate on the fight, then that's what separate the good boxers from the elite and high level prize fighters, IMHO.
By now, both camps may have already ended their training sessions because they only have 10 days left for the fight night, as well as the time to market and hype the fight, now is not the time for it. I believe both camps are now finalizing weights for the upcoming weigh-in so that there would be no problem when that day comes, and yes, just a little touch up for their daily routine so that the fire won't burn out and they won't get too tired.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Caleb Plant vs David Benavidez
Post by: Baofeng on March 14, 2023, 09:53:05 PM
And as far as Caleb goes:

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“This the best Caleb Plant anybody will ever see.”

https://www.boxingscene.com/caleb-plant-this-best-caleb-plant-anyone-ever-see--173090

So yeah, they have might have unwinding their trainers by now, or slowing it down, and maybe focus on making the weight. So watching what food they take, liquids and vitamins and everything that is getting into their system. It's not just the training that they do in the gym, it's more on the outside preparation for their body to be at the best during the fight.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Caleb Plant vs David Benavidez
Post by: Japinat on March 14, 2023, 10:12:56 PM
^^ Any fight has it's price, Caleb Plant though will be too small for 175 lbs, in my opinion. For David, yes, let's see if he can do what he has been talking about, on how he is going to knock out Plant.

So this is a measuring stick, sort of a gauge on how he can move on his career. I mean, he seems to be underestimating Caleb and disrespecting the guy and hopefully it won't backfire on him. And if he wins this fight convincingly, then his name might be in contention for the Canelo fight. Still up to Canelo on whoever he wanted next.

Caleb Plant at 175? Did he have some plans to climb on that certain weight class because that's quite exciting because if Canelo was embarrassed on his 2nd attempt, what more about Caleb Plant who doesn't have Canelo's skills.

And for David's perspective towards Plant, it's either he is indeed underestimating the latter just because he failed on his campaign towards Canelo or David was just messing around and playing some mind games with him to distract him from his plans. But that moves may have a consequence because the way I see it, Plant is serious this time and David might be a victim.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Caleb Plant vs David Benavidez
Post by: inthelongrun on March 14, 2023, 10:54:07 PM
And as far as Caleb goes:

Quote
“This the best Caleb Plant anybody will ever see.”

https://www.boxingscene.com/caleb-plant-this-best-caleb-plant-anyone-ever-see--173090

So yeah, they have might have unwinding their trainers by now, or slowing it down, and maybe focus on making the weight. So watching what food they take, liquids and vitamins and everything that is getting into their system. It's not just the training that they do in the gym, it's more on the outside preparation for their body to be at the best during the fight.

Yeah, fighters that have ample training time will usually train hard and then slow down in the later stages of the camp focusing more on the weight. David is a huge guy at 168 so he is the one that might spend time more on draining and maintaining weight.

Caleb Plant is still 30 so if there's something to improve, it is more about his technical skills which are already good enough. Caleb needs it as it will be very difficult to brawl and fight David in a physical way. I believe David will enter the ring as the bigger and stronger guy. The only problem with Caleb is if he can withstand some of the heavy punches that will land on him and the physicality of David. Caleb may fall just like in the Canelo fight where he was doing well but was finally caught in the late rounds. Caleb needs to be 100% conditioned here in order to move well and be prepared to do it for a 12-round fight.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Caleb Plant vs David Benavidez
Post by: cryptomaniac_xxx on March 15, 2023, 02:10:58 PM
And as far as Caleb goes:

Quote
“This the best Caleb Plant anybody will ever see.”

https://www.boxingscene.com/caleb-plant-this-best-caleb-plant-anyone-ever-see--173090

So yeah, they have might have unwinding their trainers by now, or slowing it down, and maybe focus on making the weight. So watching what food they take, liquids and vitamins and everything that is getting into their system. It's not just the training that they do in the gym, it's more on the outside preparation for their body to be at the best during the fight.

Yeah, fighters that have ample training time will usually train hard and then slow down in the later stages of the camp focusing more on the weight. David is a huge guy at 168 so he is the one that might spend time more on draining and maintaining weight.

Caleb Plant is still 30 so if there's something to improve, it is more about his technical skills which are already good enough. Caleb needs it as it will be very difficult to brawl and fight David in a physical way. I believe David will enter the ring as the bigger and stronger guy. The only problem with Caleb is if he can withstand some of the heavy punches that will land on him and the physicality of David. Caleb may fall just like in the Canelo fight where he was doing well but was finally caught in the late rounds. Caleb needs to be 100% conditioned here in order to move well and be prepared to do it for a 12-round fight.

Yes, this is also what I'm seeing in this fight, David, coming on a LHW or higher and then trying to imposed his physically on the much smaller Caleb Plant. And Caleb might have a good few rounds, early, but when things get rough, he might tired late in the rounds and then Caleb caught up with some good punches and then Caleb slowly getting tired and maybe goes down on his knees with a couple of body shots. Unless he improved his stamina or uses his boxing IQ to just be selective so that he will last longer.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Caleb Plant vs David Benavidez
Post by: Jawhead999 on March 15, 2023, 03:11:43 PM
Yes, this is also what I'm seeing in this fight, David, coming on a LHW or higher and then trying to imposed his physically on the much smaller Caleb Plant. And Caleb might have a good few rounds, early, but when things get rough, he might tired late in the rounds and then Caleb caught up with some good punches and then Caleb slowly getting tired and maybe goes down on his knees with a couple of body shots. Unless he improved his stamina or uses his boxing IQ to just be selective so that he will last longer.
I think Caleb Plant doesn't lack of stamina, but he's just don't know what he need to do when the opponent dominating the fight because it's always who dominate the fight since he's mostly win via KO. When he fight with Canelo, Canelo outclass him and he can't think anymore except continuously received multiple punches from Canelo.

This fight Benavidez seems more stronger and will dominating the fight, Plant need to able to control himself when he's not in a good condition.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Caleb Plant vs David Benavidez
Post by: danherbias07 on March 15, 2023, 03:25:56 PM
It is true that plant is the underdog even though he only lose once to Canelo. Benavidez has high K.O. rate which is 88% while Caleb Plant has only 56% K.O rate. Benevidez also have 0 loss and current have 3 belts. For me it is the reason why he has upper hand in this match. The pressure will be on Caleb plant, both of them are strong fighters and I know that they will fight with their best effort and strength.

The winner of this fight will have a shot at fighting Canelo Alvarez. Of course, Caleb won't be able to win here because a fight between Canelo and Benavidez would generate more hype. For Benavidez, being an aging fighter, it would be good for him to get a big fight before his retirement.

So, for bettors who think that Caleb Plant will win, it might be wise to take the moneyline bet, as it provides decent odds.
Nah, I don't think I will take that. I doubt Caleb Plant will win this match, there are too many speculations now about Canelo versus Benavidez to happen.
That's already a signal of who will win this match.
@1.30 for Benavidez is not that bad though considering all the hype that had been going around. I am expecting lesser like 1.05 - 1.10 which is mostly the case in heavy favorites in this era especially one with a belt.
Not that I am underestimating Caleb but there's too much on the line for Benavidez here to just simply give it to him. Having a shot at the champion will be a wish come true.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Caleb Plant vs David Benavidez
Post by: Jating on March 15, 2023, 09:43:59 PM
Yes, this is also what I'm seeing in this fight, David, coming on a LHW or higher and then trying to imposed his physically on the much smaller Caleb Plant. And Caleb might have a good few rounds, early, but when things get rough, he might tired late in the rounds and then Caleb caught up with some good punches and then Caleb slowly getting tired and maybe goes down on his knees with a couple of body shots. Unless he improved his stamina or uses his boxing IQ to just be selective so that he will last longer.
I think Caleb Plant doesn't lack of stamina, but he's just don't know what he need to do when the opponent dominating the fight because it's always who dominate the fight since he's mostly win via KO. When he fight with Canelo, Canelo outclass him and he can't think anymore except continuously received multiple punches from Canelo.

This fight Benavidez seems more stronger and will dominating the fight, Plant need to able to control himself when he's not in a good condition.

And it just shows that Canelo is very different, I mean there are rounds that Caleb is dominating him, but he quickly switch off in the middle rounds and that's when Caleb seems confused and wasn't able to adjust to Canelo's aggressiveness.

But it seems that he has learned his lessons from his defeat against Canelo, so we will see if he has a plan B if David uses his physically against him specially if this fight goes to the distance. But then again, as we have said, it will be a tall order for Caleb to win here.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Caleb Plant vs David Benavidez
Post by: coin-investor on March 16, 2023, 03:01:22 AM

Yup, for those who still believing that Plant can win this one better to take the ML, in boxing we all know that upset can take place and no one
can conclude the possible outcome while the fight is not happening yet.

We can all speculate and provide our own opinions about the fight, most of the time we are basing our conviction with previous fight that we've seen.

But the actual fight or faceoff will decide whether our analysis is right or wrong.
Faceoff brings nothing I have seen guys who try to frighten or bully their opponent only to get knocked out in the fight one example is the Zepeda - Vargas, faceoff is for the photoshoot, and tradition it is when both fighters met in the ring we'll know the chances of each fighter, but we also have to see that there's such a thing as upsets and phantom punches.
It's the punch that boxers did not see coming are the one that hurt them.
In this fight between Caleb Plant and David Benavidez one fighter can have an edge based on analysis but both fighters can deliver a big punch that can knock their opponent out, and I expect a knockout to happen in this fight.
 


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Caleb Plant vs David Benavidez
Post by: Ziskinberg on March 16, 2023, 10:58:57 AM
It is true that plant is the underdog even though he only lose once to Canelo. Benavidez has high K.O. rate which is 88% while Caleb Plant has only 56% K.O rate. Benevidez also have 0 loss and current have 3 belts. For me it is the reason why he has upper hand in this match. The pressure will be on Caleb plant, both of them are strong fighters and I know that they will fight with their best effort and strength.

The winner of this fight will have a shot at fighting Canelo Alvarez. Of course, Caleb won't be able to win here because a fight between Canelo and Benavidez would generate more hype. For Benavidez, being an aging fighter, it would be good for him to get a big fight before his retirement.

So, for bettors who think that Caleb Plant will win, it might be wise to take the moneyline bet, as it provides decent odds.
Nah, I don't think I will take that. I doubt Caleb Plant will win this match, there are too many speculations now about Canelo versus Benavidez to happen.
That's already a signal of who will win this match.
@1.30 for Benavidez is not that bad though considering all the hype that had been going around. I am expecting lesser like 1.05 - 1.10 which is mostly the case in heavy favorites in this era especially one with a belt.
Not that I am underestimating Caleb but there's too much on the line for Benavidez here to just simply give it to him. Having a shot at the champion will be a wish come true.
I guess so. We've seen enough from Plant against Canelo; he only plays defense. But against a tough fighter and a heavy puncher, his defense will eventually be destroyed in the game. You are right, Canelo vs Benavidez will be a good matchup. Maybe this fight will be unpredictable, as it's hard to predict the winner since both are great boxers.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Caleb Plant vs David Benavidez
Post by: btc_angela on March 16, 2023, 11:18:39 AM
^^ Any fight has it's price, Caleb Plant though will be too small for 175 lbs, in my opinion. For David, yes, let's see if he can do what he has been talking about, on how he is going to knock out Plant.

So this is a measuring stick, sort of a gauge on how he can move on his career. I mean, he seems to be underestimating Caleb and disrespecting the guy and hopefully it won't backfire on him. And if he wins this fight convincingly, then his name might be in contention for the Canelo fight. Still up to Canelo on whoever he wanted next.

Caleb Plant at 175? Did he have some plans to climb on that certain weight class because that's quite exciting because if Canelo was embarrassed on his 2nd attempt, what more about Caleb Plant who doesn't have Canelo's skills.

Not yet, but as I have said, he will be too small for that weight category.

And for David's perspective towards Plant, it's either he is indeed underestimating the latter just because he failed on his campaign towards Canelo or David was just messing around and playing some mind games with him to distract him from his plans. But that moves may have a consequence because the way I see it, Plant is serious this time and David might be a victim.

Hard to say, maybe mind games, or personal thing for him as we have seen videos of their confrontation years ago. And it seems the Benavidez are hell bent on getting their revenge on Caleb. But the thing is that Caleb saw this as just their antics and so he will be more prepared for this fight just to make sure to shut the mouth of David and his father.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Caleb Plant vs David Benavidez
Post by: Fredomago on March 16, 2023, 03:51:24 PM
And for David's perspective towards Plant, it's either he is indeed underestimating the latter just because he failed on his campaign towards Canelo or David was just messing around and playing some mind games with him to distract him from his plans. But that moves may have a consequence because the way I see it, Plant is serious this time and David might be a victim.

Hard to say, maybe mind games, or personal thing for him as we have seen videos of their confrontation years ago. And it seems the Benavidez are hell bent on getting their revenge on Caleb. But the thing is that Caleb saw this as just their antics and so he will be more prepared for this fight just to make sure to shut the mouth of David and his father.

Both fighters are eager to win for a chance to have a shot for Alvarez, winning these fights will give them the hype for their career, for sure both of them are preparing and anticipating how their opponents are adjusting to bring everything once they are already inside the ring, whatever the reason from both fighters they will use it to fight in more inspiring way.

Winning is the goal to bring more opportunity in their career. Whoever will be the winner deserves the credit.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Caleb Plant vs David Benavidez
Post by: Jating on March 16, 2023, 09:21:24 PM
And for David's perspective towards Plant, it's either he is indeed underestimating the latter just because he failed on his campaign towards Canelo or David was just messing around and playing some mind games with him to distract him from his plans. But that moves may have a consequence because the way I see it, Plant is serious this time and David might be a victim.

Hard to say, maybe mind games, or personal thing for him as we have seen videos of their confrontation years ago. And it seems the Benavidez are hell bent on getting their revenge on Caleb. But the thing is that Caleb saw this as just their antics and so he will be more prepared for this fight just to make sure to shut the mouth of David and his father.

Both fighters are eager to win for a chance to have a shot for Alvarez, winning these fights will give them the hype for their career, for sure both of them are preparing and anticipating how their opponents are adjusting to bring everything once they are already inside the ring, whatever the reason from both fighters they will use it to fight in more inspiring way.

Winning is the goal to bring more opportunity in their career. Whoever will be the winner deserves the credit.

Specially David Benavidez, he wanted to fight Alvarez next so for sure he is very much in this fight and will bring his A-game. Also extra motivation for him as he hated Caleb and he wants to proved that he deserved Canelo next.

Alvarez though will have a fight against Ryder and maybe Bivol next. So it might take some time for the winner of this fight to get into Alvarez.

But the thing is that they need to win and win it badly.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Caleb Plant vs David Benavidez
Post by: Japinat on March 16, 2023, 09:49:56 PM
And for David's perspective towards Plant, it's either he is indeed underestimating the latter just because he failed on his campaign towards Canelo or David was just messing around and playing some mind games with him to distract him from his plans. But that moves may have a consequence because the way I see it, Plant is serious this time and David might be a victim.

Hard to say, maybe mind games, or personal thing for him as we have seen videos of their confrontation years ago. And it seems the Benavidez are hell bent on getting their revenge on Caleb. But the thing is that Caleb saw this as just their antics and so he will be more prepared for this fight just to make sure to shut the mouth of David and his father.

Well, Benavidez might get furious on that note because Caleb is just taking their words lightly when in-fact Benavidez's side are serious about it and it's not just mind game antics for them or trying to sell the fight even more. On the other hand, at least Caleb Plant is calm enough about it and didn't let David and his father destroy his plan, that is to have a rematch against Canelo.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Caleb Plant vs David Benavidez
Post by: Kemarit on March 17, 2023, 12:56:12 PM
And for David's perspective towards Plant, it's either he is indeed underestimating the latter just because he failed on his campaign towards Canelo or David was just messing around and playing some mind games with him to distract him from his plans. But that moves may have a consequence because the way I see it, Plant is serious this time and David might be a victim.

Hard to say, maybe mind games, or personal thing for him as we have seen videos of their confrontation years ago. And it seems the Benavidez are hell bent on getting their revenge on Caleb. But the thing is that Caleb saw this as just their antics and so he will be more prepared for this fight just to make sure to shut the mouth of David and his father.

Well, Benavidez might get furious on that note because Caleb is just taking their words lightly when in-fact Benavidez's side are serious about it and it's not just mind game antics for them or trying to sell the fight even more. On the other hand, at least Caleb Plant is calm enough about it and didn't let David and his father destroy his plan, that is to have a rematch against Canelo.

Caleb seems to be really confident going into this fight, and him and his new trainer could be a good partnership. Although it is just one fight, maybe it was just enough for Caleb to regain his power and confidence after a lost to Canelo.

But we all know that the power belongs to David Benavidez, but he shouldn't be too aggressive or bring his hands down as Caleb might be preparing for a good counter just like what he did to Anthony Direll. Just waiting for David to make that one mistake.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Caleb Plant vs David Benavidez
Post by: Fredomago on March 18, 2023, 11:18:46 AM
And for David's perspective towards Plant, it's either he is indeed underestimating the latter just because he failed on his campaign towards Canelo or David was just messing around and playing some mind games with him to distract him from his plans. But that moves may have a consequence because the way I see it, Plant is serious this time and David might be a victim.

Hard to say, maybe mind games, or personal thing for him as we have seen videos of their confrontation years ago. And it seems the Benavidez are hell bent on getting their revenge on Caleb. But the thing is that Caleb saw this as just their antics and so he will be more prepared for this fight just to make sure to shut the mouth of David and his father.

Both fighters are eager to win for a chance to have a shot for Alvarez, winning these fights will give them the hype for their career, for sure both of them are preparing and anticipating how their opponents are adjusting to bring everything once they are already inside the ring, whatever the reason from both fighters they will use it to fight in more inspiring way.

Winning is the goal to bring more opportunity in their career. Whoever will be the winner deserves the credit.

Specially David Benavidez, he wanted to fight Alvarez next so for sure he is very much in this fight and will bring his A-game. Also extra motivation for him as he hated Caleb and he wants to proved that he deserved Canelo next.

Alvarez though will have a fight against Ryder and maybe Bivol next. So it might take some time for the winner of this fight to get into Alvarez.

But the thing is that they need to win and win it badly.

They needed the win to have that chance to fight with Alvarez and the chance to take his belt, though as you mentioned there are fighters who possible to meet Alvarez first before they will be address, but what is important is the hype to bring their name up and the opportunity to have that money/title fight.

Let see who's going to win and who will showcase all the talent and skills to outperform their opponent.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Caleb Plant vs David Benavidez
Post by: btc_angela on March 18, 2023, 11:24:47 AM
And for David's perspective towards Plant, it's either he is indeed underestimating the latter just because he failed on his campaign towards Canelo or David was just messing around and playing some mind games with him to distract him from his plans. But that moves may have a consequence because the way I see it, Plant is serious this time and David might be a victim.

Hard to say, maybe mind games, or personal thing for him as we have seen videos of their confrontation years ago. And it seems the Benavidez are hell bent on getting their revenge on Caleb. But the thing is that Caleb saw this as just their antics and so he will be more prepared for this fight just to make sure to shut the mouth of David and his father.

Well, Benavidez might get furious on that note because Caleb is just taking their words lightly when in-fact Benavidez's side are serious about it and it's not just mind game antics for them or trying to sell the fight even more. On the other hand, at least Caleb Plant is calm enough about it and didn't let David and his father destroy his plan, that is to have a rematch against Canelo.

If that is the case then Caleb should be winning the mind games already? Because if the Benavidez can't get into Caleb's mind then it could backfire on them and maybe it's Caleb that is getting to their nerves and not the other way around.

That's one thing I noticed about Caleb though, even in the Canelo fight, he is really calm until Canelo hit him with that hook during their press conference. But after the fight, they are all professional and respectful to each other. Hopefully who ever wins here, will bury their hatchet and forget what has been said and done in the past.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Caleb Plant vs David Benavidez
Post by: LUCKMCFLY on March 18, 2023, 07:26:58 PM

Yes we can't stop him, many boxers as well in the past have that ambition to move up in weight and claim the belt. But only few and very gifted athletes have done that in the past, Floyd, Manny, Oscar Dela Hoya to name a few.

Oscar though tasted defeated when he tries to go as high as middleweight and fight his now GBP partner in Bernard Hopkins and get knock out in a body punch. So lets see how far David can go in his career.

It's true what happened with Oscar was something really painful, but I think that happened to Oscar because he began to climb very quickly, the training was not enough and obviously the blows they gave him were on another level, his body had not yet adapted to that, in which, in my respect, gaining weight in boxing is something that is really difficult because the ability to receive blows has to be higher than before and this can only be achieved with very hard training, and to pass quickly unless To be a genius in boxing you have to spend a long time training, only then is it possible, otherwise what happened to Oscar happens.

And for David's perspective towards Plant, it's either he is indeed underestimating the latter just because he failed on his campaign towards Canelo or David was just messing around and playing some mind games with him to distract him from his plans. But that moves may have a consequence because the way I see it, Plant is serious this time and David might be a victim.

Hard to say, maybe mind games, or personal thing for him as we have seen videos of their confrontation years ago. And it seems the Benavidez are hell bent on getting their revenge on Caleb. But the thing is that Caleb saw this as just their antics and so he will be more prepared for this fight just to make sure to shut the mouth of David and his father.

Well, Benavidez might get furious on that note because Caleb is just taking their words lightly when in-fact Benavidez's side are serious about it and it's not just mind game antics for them or trying to sell the fight even more. On the other hand, at least Caleb Plant is calm enough about it and didn't let David and his father destroy his plan, that is to have a rematch against Canelo.

If that is the case then Caleb should be winning the mind games already? Because if the Benavidez can't get into Caleb's mind then it could backfire on them and maybe it's Caleb that is getting to their nerves and not the other way around.

That's one thing I noticed about Caleb though, even in the Canelo fight, he is really calm until Canelo hit him with that hook during their press conference. But after the fight, they are all professional and respectful to each other. Hopefully who ever wins here, will bury their hatchet and forget what has been said and done in the past.

These games are always something that boxers use to praise themselves, of course all this is part of the show and something that we see with a lot of emotion, because of what they say, because of what they do, these are things that entertain , but because it is part of the show we must take into consideration that the fight is somewhat close, Benavidez is doing his part, it is normal, Plant on the other hand knows that he should not give up, for me this fight is very balanced, no I would know who to bet on. I don't see a stronger boxer.


Benavidez On Plant: The Only Personal Part That Will Come Of Me Is In Training, During Press Conferences

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It goes without saying that David Benavidez and Caleb Plant do not like one another.

That doesn’t mean the entire training camp or even the fight itself will be fueled by hatred.

“The only personal part of it that will come out of me is in training and during the press conferences,” Benavidez told BoxingScene.com. “You won’t see anything personal come out of me during the fight.”

There have been a lot of personal insults hurled between camps in the buildup leading into their long-anticipated grudge match. The two had to be separated numerous times during their February 2 announcement press conference in Los Angeles for their March 25 Showtime Pay-Per-View headliner from MGM Grand Garden Arena in Las Vegas.

Source: https://www.boxingscene.com/benavidez-on-plant-only-personal-part-come-me-training-during-press-conferences--173184 (https://www.boxingscene.com/benavidez-on-plant-only-personal-part-come-me-training-during-press-conferences--173184)


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Caleb Plant vs David Benavidez
Post by: Baofeng on March 18, 2023, 10:44:10 PM
And they are still hyping this fight even if it is just a week away from it:

https://twitter.com/BOXINGFOTY/status/1636899331344330752

This is a supposedly video of Caleb Plant getting kicked out of a boxing gym in Las Vegas for not paying his gym fees. Not sure if this is real or what or just a promotional stunt for this upcoming fight. How can a professional boxer not pay for a gym? or maybe he has his own gym as well.  And it was said the Benavidez Sr is the one who posted this video and this is not recent.

And with this, they are not trending in Twitter hehehe.

What do you guys think of it?



Title: Re: [Boxing]: Caleb Plant vs David Benavidez
Post by: inthelongrun on March 20, 2023, 05:12:16 AM
And they are still hyping this fight even if it is just a week away from it:

https://twitter.com/BOXINGFOTY/status/1636899331344330752

This is a supposedly video of Caleb Plant getting kicked out of a boxing gym in Las Vegas for not paying his gym fees. Not sure if this is real or what or just a promotional stunt for this upcoming fight. How can a professional boxer not pay for a gym? or maybe he has his own gym as well.  And it was said the Benavidez Sr is the one who posted this video and this is not recent.

And with this, they are not trending in Twitter hehehe.

What do you guys think of it?



Caleb just got $10 million in a single fight when he fought Canelo, that's a crazy amount which is even bigger than the whole paydays of both David and his brother Jose combined. Caleb can even make his own gyms if he wants. That dumb gym owner is either broke and was asking for more money knowing Caleb has a lot of it or he got paid like $10k to sabotage Caleb's training. Both sides are trying to distract each other anyways, maybe this is the Benavidez side of revenge after Caleb paid and is now owning DavidBenavidez.com (https://davidbenavidez.com/). I'm not a big fan of either side and I was very glad when Canelo slapped Caleb a few years ago. But now I want Caleb to be the first to defeat David Benavidez. Hopefully, he can shake David a bit in the early rounds to earn his respect and fight smart until the fight lasts. I have a feeling that David might get fatigued in the late rounds if he cannot catch Caleb with his power punches.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Caleb Plant vs David Benavidez
Post by: yazher on March 20, 2023, 07:20:49 AM

But now I want Caleb to be the first to defeat David Benavidez. Hopefully, he can shake David a bit in the early rounds to earn his respect and fight smart until the fight lasts. I have a feeling that David might get fatigued in the late rounds if he cannot catch Caleb with his power punches.

Most likely this will be the reason for Caleb to give his best to stop Benavidez from further stretching his winning streak and he is a good candidate to take that job. But if Benavidez is beyond ready, he cannot just simply put pressure on him because that would be nothing against him when he is ready. what he really needs is to practice a skill that would surprise Benavidez in the ring that he would have a hard time adjusting to and finally beat him easily with that even though the fight will last 12 rounds. He can learn from Bivol by watching his fight against Canelo.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Caleb Plant vs David Benavidez
Post by: cryptomaniac_xxx on March 20, 2023, 10:40:22 AM
And they are still hyping this fight even if it is just a week away from it:

https://twitter.com/BOXINGFOTY/status/1636899331344330752

This is a supposedly video of Caleb Plant getting kicked out of a boxing gym in Las Vegas for not paying his gym fees. Not sure if this is real or what or just a promotional stunt for this upcoming fight. How can a professional boxer not pay for a gym? or maybe he has his own gym as well.  And it was said the Benavidez Sr is the one who posted this video and this is not recent.

And with this, they are not trending in Twitter hehehe.

What do you guys think of it?



Caleb just got $10 million in a single fight when he fought Canelo, that's a crazy amount which is even bigger than the whole paydays of both David and his brother Jose combined. Caleb can even make his own gyms if he wants. That dumb gym owner is either broke and was asking for more money knowing Caleb has a lot of it or he got paid like $10k to sabotage Caleb's training. Both sides are trying to distract each other anyways, maybe this is the Benavidez side of revenge after Caleb paid and is now owning DavidBenavidez.com (https://davidbenavidez.com/). I'm not a big fan of either side and I was very glad when Canelo slapped Caleb a few years ago. But now I want Caleb to be the first to defeat David Benavidez. Hopefully, he can shake David a bit in the early rounds to earn his respect and fight smart until the fight lasts. I have a feeling that David might get fatigued in the late rounds if he cannot catch Caleb with his power punches.

With the way he handle himself against Canelo back then, yeah, he seems to be the villain and attacking Canelo including his mother. But it seems that Caleb now is the victim of many of the Benavidez antics on and off cam.

So yes, maybe we wanted Caleb to shut the mouth of David in this fight.

And mostly this attacks could backfire on David as Caleb might just be silent right now, but have been training and ready to go all out against Benavidez this weekend.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Caleb Plant vs David Benavidez
Post by: Yamifoud on March 20, 2023, 12:07:36 PM
So yes, maybe we wanted Caleb to shut the mouth of David in this fight.

And mostly this attacks could backfire on David as Caleb might just be silent right now, but have been training and ready to go all out against Benavidez this weekend.

No, because David Benavidez is a way better fighter than Caleb. Caleb has already been exposed, and he cannot win against quality boxers, especially those who are heavy hitters. I think this fight will not even reach 12 rounds. David Benavidez would also look for an impressive win so that he can get a bigger fight next time.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Caleb Plant vs David Benavidez
Post by: bisdak40 on March 20, 2023, 12:58:10 PM
And they are still hyping this fight even if it is just a week away from it:

https://twitter.com/BOXINGFOTY/status/1636899331344330752

This is a supposedly video of Caleb Plant getting kicked out of a boxing gym in Las Vegas for not paying his gym fees. Not sure if this is real or what or just a promotional stunt for this upcoming fight. How can a professional boxer not pay for a gym? or maybe he has his own gym as well.  And it was said the Benavidez Sr is the one who posted this video and this is not recent.

And with this, they are not trending in Twitter hehehe.

What do you guys think of it?

Lol, this is funny and just like what you have said, how come that a professional boxer or a guy with a million-dollar asset could not pay his gym fees hehe, so yeah this is just a promotional stunt to sell the fight to the fans. Have also read that this is not breaking news as this video was taken last summer.

The fight will be in the weekend and lots of options now on the bookies and i'm looking this win by Benavidez via decision @4.30 as Caleb is a tough guy to knocked out.
 
https://i.imgur.com/yRpBFv8.png


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Caleb Plant vs David Benavidez
Post by: Kasabus on March 20, 2023, 08:14:39 PM
So yes, maybe we wanted Caleb to shut the mouth of David in this fight.

And mostly this attacks could backfire on David as Caleb might just be silent right now, but have been training and ready to go all out against Benavidez this weekend.

No, because David Benavidez is a way better fighter than Caleb. Caleb has already been exposed, and he cannot win against quality boxers, especially those who are heavy hitters. I think this fight will not even reach 12 rounds. David Benavidez would also look for an impressive win so that he can get a bigger fight next time.

I definitely agree with that statement mate. The thing is even if Caleb Plant will win this fight against David Benavidez, he will still find himself in the exact same spot where Canelo defeated him because I don't seriously think that he can make a difference this time. More over, I also don't believe that he overcome David Benavidez because they are on a different league.

The thing is, Caleb Plant chose to be silent from everything especially from David's trashtalking mouth and that is for a reason, because if he will talk back, he might get himself another embarrassment as he probably knew already that his chances against David is not that good.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Caleb Plant vs David Benavidez
Post by: Baofeng on March 20, 2023, 09:58:16 PM
And they are still hyping this fight even if it is just a week away from it:

https://twitter.com/BOXINGFOTY/status/1636899331344330752

This is a supposedly video of Caleb Plant getting kicked out of a boxing gym in Las Vegas for not paying his gym fees. Not sure if this is real or what or just a promotional stunt for this upcoming fight. How can a professional boxer not pay for a gym? or maybe he has his own gym as well.  And it was said the Benavidez Sr is the one who posted this video and this is not recent.

And with this, they are now trending in Twitter hehehe.

What do you guys think of it?

Lol, this is funny and just like what you have said, how come that a professional boxer or a guy with a million-dollar asset could not pay his gym fees hehe, so yeah this is just a promotional stunt to sell the fight to the fans. Have also read that this is not breaking news as this video was taken last summer.

The fight will be in the weekend and lots of options now on the bookies and i'm looking this win by Benavidez via decision @4.30 as Caleb is a tough guy to knocked out.
 
https://i.imgur.com/yRpBFv8.png

Hehehe, yeah and someone said that this could be an old video or maybe the owner just wanted his 10 minutes of fame and what a way to do it with Caleb as he will have a fight this weekend against "Fat Boy", that's how he addresses David Benavidez now hehehe. So really very interesting and good fight for us this weekend, I haven't put any bet yet, but we will see.

And in response, Benavidez says that he has been called fat throughout his childhood, but nevertheless, this fat boy has power and knocks most of his opponents.

David though still the favorite for this fight obviously, but we should be looking for good options to bet not just on ML if we are on David's bandwagon.

And Caleb has support from former champion Shawn Porter:

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"David's spoiled with his pressure. He breaks everyone down, but I don't think he'll be able to do that to Caleb, so I’m picking Caleb in a late-round stoppage.”

https://www.boxingscene.com/shawn-porter-backs-caleb-plant-stop-david-benavidez-late-rounds--173236


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Caleb Plant vs David Benavidez
Post by: aioc on March 24, 2023, 01:01:03 PM
And they are still hyping this fight even if it is just a week away from it:

https://twitter.com/BOXINGFOTY/status/1636899331344330752

This is a supposedly video of Caleb Plant getting kicked out of a boxing gym in Las Vegas for not paying his gym fees. Not sure if this is real or what or just a promotional stunt for this upcoming fight. How can a professional boxer not pay for a gym? or maybe he has his own gym as well.  And it was said the Benavidez Sr is the one who posted this video and this is not recent.

And with this, they are not trending in Twitter hehehe.

What do you guys think of it?



The clip is not complete we don't know the real situation in that short video clip, of course, the guy can pay his gym fees, in fact, he can have his own boxing gym because of his earnings and that's not the way to treat a former champion it's like harassing him if he's not paying a fee you can file a complaint and not harass him.
They have their first face-off hours ago and they are trying to bully each other but hype or no hype this will be an action-packed fight.
We have a saying style makes a fight and both fighters are not afraid to slug it out and get hit to get a hit, the chances that one of them will get knockout is very high, and I have Caleb Plant knocking out Benavidez.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Caleb Plant vs David Benavidez
Post by: Kemarit on March 24, 2023, 01:06:49 PM
And they are still hyping this fight even if it is just a week away from it:

https://twitter.com/BOXINGFOTY/status/1636899331344330752

This is a supposedly video of Caleb Plant getting kicked out of a boxing gym in Las Vegas for not paying his gym fees. Not sure if this is real or what or just a promotional stunt for this upcoming fight. How can a professional boxer not pay for a gym? or maybe he has his own gym as well.  And it was said the Benavidez Sr is the one who posted this video and this is not recent.

And with this, they are not trending in Twitter hehehe.

What do you guys think of it?



The clip is not complete we don't know the real situation in that short video clip, of course, the guy can pay his gym fees, in fact, he can have his own boxing gym because of his earnings and that's not the way to treat a former champion it's like harassing him if he's not paying a fee you can file a complaint and not harass him.
They have their first face-off hours ago and they are trying to bully each other but hype or no hype this will be an action-packed fight.
We have a saying style makes a fight and both fighters are not afraid to slug it out and get hit to get a hit, the chances that one of them will get knockout is very high, and I have Caleb Plant knocking out Benavidez.


It could be an old video though and not recent.

In any case this fight is very near, in about 48 hours we will finally see this fight. I guess they already put the the hype in this fight. The animosity and personal attacks of the Benavidez to Caleb Plant. And then Caleb not wanting to be affected and saying that this is just another fight for him but he will go for the knockout just like what he did to Dirrell.

So we will see who will be the winner and possible that it will be Canelo next for either in the future.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Caleb Plant vs David Benavidez
Post by: Baofeng on March 24, 2023, 09:31:02 PM
And here is the weigh in:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PR4Xe7PT_24

Caleb laying his hands on David's face, hehehe, very intense face off and so they have to be separated as it can go on a full brawl by both camps. Both make the weight, obviously Caleb is more dry and so he is cut, not bad for David though, showing some abs muscle as well.

So this going to be explosive fight as they genuinely hate each other and wanted to take each other heads off in this fight.

Must watch for us boxing fans here and make sure you put your bets already.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Caleb Plant vs David Benavidez
Post by: BitcoinPanther on March 24, 2023, 10:09:20 PM
And here is the weigh in:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PR4Xe7PT_24

Caleb laying his hands on David's face, hehehe, very intense face off and so they have to be separated as it can go on a full brawl by both camps. Both make the weight, obviously Caleb is more dry and so he is cut, not bad for David though, showing some abs muscle as well.

So this going to be explosive fight as they genuinely hate each other and wanted to take each other heads off in this fight.

I think those acts of hostility are just for a show to make fans excited.  You'll see they will make up after the fight.

Must watch for us boxing fans here and make sure you put your bets already.

Yeah the fight is very interesting because the result of this fight may have an effect on who is the next opponent of Canelo Alvarez.  I think Benavidez will dominate the fight but obviously it can go either way because both fighter have the capability to knock out their opponent.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Caleb Plant vs David Benavidez
Post by: bisdak40 on March 24, 2023, 10:35:10 PM
And here is the weigh in:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PR4Xe7PT_24

Caleb laying his hands on David's face, hehehe, very intense face off and so they have to be separated as it can go on a full brawl by both camps. Both make the weight, obviously Caleb is more dry and so he is cut, not bad for David though, showing some abs muscle as well.

So this going to be explosive fight as they genuinely hate each other and wanted to take each other heads off in this fight.

Must watch for us boxing fans here and make sure you put your bets already.

If that laying of hand on David's face was part of the marketing of this fight then it was a success hehe. I think the hatred towards each other seems real to me and for sure I'm going to bet and watch this fight as this would be my first time watching David fight live.

https://i.imgur.com/pYezDiA.png

My take is that this fight would go the distance and that over 9.5 @1.87 looks juicy to me and is definitely my bet but I'm also throwing some bucks with Benavidez via decision @3.95.

I'm sure that Canelo will be watching this fight as he wants to witness how David will dismantle Caleb here.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Caleb Plant vs David Benavidez
Post by: robelneo on March 24, 2023, 11:34:13 PM


I'm sure that Canelo will be watching this fight as he wants to witness how David will dismantle Caleb here.

I'm sure he wants Caleb to win the fight he's been alluding to Benavidez for so long that he will have another reason not to fight Benavidez and I'm sure he wants to fight Caleb more than Benavidez even if the fight is profitable for both camps because Benavidez is a real threat to his supremacy.
I'll go for Benavidez right now but Caleb is such a dangerous fighter when you are thrash-talking him just like what happened to his last fight.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Caleb Plant vs David Benavidez
Post by: LUCKMCFLY on March 25, 2023, 03:21:12 AM
Many are focusing on Canelo and that this fight is a Benchmark for him to show off , I see Canelo as a boxer who has to get Fame anywhere , either messing with other athletes or even waiting for a possible winner of this fight , which What is exciting here is that I don't know if he has measured the consequences of his actions , because having a fairly Broken hand is not easy to fight like this, when force is imposed on his hand I am sure it will start to annoy him , I know that the gloves will A boxer Protects them , but they have to be taken into consideration that a hand injury is strong.

David Benavidez vs Caleb Plant on weight for interim title in Las Vegas

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Undefeated former two-time WBC super middleweight champion David Benavidez (26-0, 23 KOs) defends his interim WBC belt against former IBF titleholder Caleb Plant (22-1, 13 KOs) at MGM Grand Garden Arena in Las Vegas on Saturday, March 25. The pair battles it out in the main event live on Showtime PPV. A day before the fight show the athletes step on the scales to make it official.

Both fighters made the required championship limit. David Benavidez weighed-in at 166.75 lbs. Caleb Plant showed 167.25 lbs. The bout is scheduled for 12 rounds.

In the co-main event, Joey Spencer (16-0, 10 KOs) squares off against Jesus Alejandro Ramos (19-0, 15 KOs) in a ten-rounder at super welterweight. Both fighters tipped the scales at 153.25 lbs.

Source: https://www.fightmag.com.au/2023/03/24/david-benavidez-vs-caleb-plant-weigh-in-results/ (https://www.fightmag.com.au/2023/03/24/david-benavidez-vs-caleb-plant-weigh-in-results/)


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Caleb Plant vs David Benavidez
Post by: btc_angela on March 25, 2023, 12:01:33 PM
And here is the weigh in:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PR4Xe7PT_24

Caleb laying his hands on David's face, hehehe, very intense face off and so they have to be separated as it can go on a full brawl by both camps. Both make the weight, obviously Caleb is more dry and so he is cut, not bad for David though, showing some abs muscle as well.

So this going to be explosive fight as they genuinely hate each other and wanted to take each other heads off in this fight.

Must watch for us boxing fans here and make sure you put your bets already.

If that laying of hand on David's face was part of the marketing of this fight then it was a success hehe. I think the hatred towards each other seems real to me and for sure I'm going to bet and watch this fight as this would be my first time watching David fight live.

https://i.imgur.com/pYezDiA.png

My take is that this fight would go the distance and that over 9.5 @1.87 looks juicy to me and is definitely my bet but I'm also throwing some bucks with Benavidez via decision @3.95.

I'm sure that Canelo will be watching this fight as he wants to witness how David will dismantle Caleb here.

Not only Canelo but there are a lot of boxers in that division that is going to watch this fight because it turns out to be one of the most hype because both hate each other. Even at the last day of the weigh-in, Caleb poke Benavidez and they need to be separated as an all out brawl could happen.

Nevertheless, it's that time tomorrow night, they are going to face each other already.

Haven't put my bet yet, but thanks to you, I might have an idea on what to bet.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Caleb Plant vs David Benavidez
Post by: Baofeng on March 25, 2023, 11:35:06 PM
And here is the weigh in:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PR4Xe7PT_24

Caleb laying his hands on David's face, hehehe, very intense face off and so they have to be separated as it can go on a full brawl by both camps. Both make the weight, obviously Caleb is more dry and so he is cut, not bad for David though, showing some abs muscle as well.

So this going to be explosive fight as they genuinely hate each other and wanted to take each other heads off in this fight.

Must watch for us boxing fans here and make sure you put your bets already.

If that laying of hand on David's face was part of the marketing of this fight then it was a success hehe. I think the hatred towards each other seems real to me and for sure I'm going to bet and watch this fight as this would be my first time watching David fight live.

https://i.imgur.com/pYezDiA.png

My take is that this fight would go the distance and that over 9.5 @1.87 looks juicy to me and is definitely my bet but I'm also throwing some bucks with Benavidez via decision @3.95.

I'm sure that Canelo will be watching this fight as he wants to witness how David will dismantle Caleb here.

David Sr prediction though that this fight will last 8th-9th rounds and his son going to stop Plant by knockout hehehe. Bold prediction by Sr but that's what exactly the bookies are, as far as the over and under rounds David is still a huge favorite, he had all the advantage here except for the experience. Yeah, for sure Canelo is going to observed the fight specially Plant and see if that power is real or if there is a potential weaknesses because he might face David in the next couple of years. I doubt the fight can be made this year though if Canelo is interested, he is more looking for a Bivol rematch at 175 lbs. And I don't think this is personal though, at the end of the fight, whoever wins, will show mutual respect to each other. That's how this sport is, and will be, everything is to sell the fight and to just motivated themselves against each other by trash talking.

I already locked the voting as well and this is the final results:

https://i.imgur.com/vEv0zxI.png

Majority thinks that Benavidez will win by KO/TKO.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Caleb Plant vs David Benavidez
Post by: robelneo on March 26, 2023, 05:15:54 AM


Majority thinks that Benavidez will win by KO/TKO.

Benavidez may have not stopped Plant but Plant was punished too much by David, Plant suffered more in this fight than his Canelo fight, Benavidez deserves to win by a unanimous decision he is indeed a Mexican monster I guess we got all the money's worth, now Canelo should fight Benavidez because that's what the boxing needs to see after David dismantle Caleb.

Here is the score card
115-113 / 116-112 / 117-111


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Caleb Plant vs David Benavidez
Post by: bisdak40 on March 26, 2023, 05:20:45 AM
Just as i speculated, David Benavidez won the fight via unanimous decision (115-113, 116-112, 117-111).

Lucky for Plant that David started the fight slow as he compiled points but at the end, he seemed lost all the stamina but still kudos to him that even though he absorbed all the power punches in championship rounds, he was still standing.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Caleb Plant vs David Benavidez
Post by: FinneysTrueVision on March 26, 2023, 06:24:01 AM
Plant was starting to get cocky early in the fight. He started off great but once he felt David's power his strategy fell apart and he turned into a punching bag the entire second half of the fight. I'm impressed that it went the distance with the amount of punishment that Plant took. Benavidez is indeed a monster and this makes me much more interested in seeing him fight Canelo. He has earned that opportunity. That is a fight where either guy could win by knockout so it is going to have a lot more demand with boxing fans than Canelo against Ryder or a rematch against Bivol.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Caleb Plant vs David Benavidez
Post by: Jawhead999 on March 26, 2023, 07:55:32 AM
In this fight Plant is better than he was get knocked out by Canelo, Benavidez's stamina is too strong and he wasn't tired at any round. Congratulations for Benavidez, so he can fight with Canelo after Canelo destorying Ryder in the next 2 monhts. Judging the recent performance by Benavidez in this fight, it seems his skill is still not enough to beat Canelo, but I expect it should be a good fight since Benavidez has a strong chin too.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Caleb Plant vs David Benavidez
Post by: coin-investor on March 26, 2023, 09:49:37 AM
In this fight Plant is better than he was get knocked out by Canelo, Benavidez's stamina is too strong and he wasn't tired at any round. Congratulations for Benavidez, so he can fight with Canelo after Canelo destorying Ryder in the next 2 monhts. Judging the recent performance by Benavidez in this fight, it seems his skill is still not enough to beat Canelo, but I expect it should be a good fight since Benavidez has a strong chin too.

He is better at holding, and fighting and should have stopped earlier the referee just let Caleb plants hold on to Benavidez, it was a pity to see Caleb holding for dear life as if begging for Benavidez to slow down with the punches, with this win Benavidez is a real and strong threat to Canelo's supremacy in that division, Canelo keeps alluding Benavidez but now their road should cross and its time for them to face one another, let's see if Canelo will take the challenge to fight Benavidez after he beat Ryder.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Caleb Plant vs David Benavidez
Post by: Distinctin on March 26, 2023, 12:34:55 PM
Plant was lucky enough to survive the fight, but unfortunately, he still lost in the end. It looks like he's done now as he's already lost against the best boxers. So, maybe there's a chance that we'll witness a big fight between David Benavidez and Canelo Alvarez. Do you guys think it's going to happen?

If anyone here still remember, what was the betting odds for David Benavidez winning via decision?


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Caleb Plant vs David Benavidez
Post by: carlisle1 on March 26, 2023, 06:19:42 PM
Just as i speculated, David Benavidez won the fight via unanimous decision (115-113, 116-112, 117-111).

Lucky for Plant that David started the fight slow as he compiled points but at the end, he seemed lost all the stamina but still kudos to him that even though he absorbed all the power punches in championship rounds, he was still standing.

Lucky for those who choose to place their bets in over rounds and UD as they are really enjoying the profits, with ML, not sure
if that's decent enough to enjoy though still a win for Benavidez supporters.

Yeah, Caleb manages to complete the entire rounds but lose the fight against Benavidez as he really can't denied those punches that his
opponents are throwing.

He survives but he it might be the end for him in terms of title match, it's Benavidez time to shine if Canelo will agree in facing him.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Caleb Plant vs David Benavidez
Post by: Kemarit on March 26, 2023, 07:50:13 PM
Just as i speculated, David Benavidez won the fight via unanimous decision (115-113, 116-112, 117-111).

Lucky for Plant that David started the fight slow as he compiled points but at the end, he seemed lost all the stamina but still kudos to him that even though he absorbed all the power punches in championship rounds, he was still standing.

Yeah, it was very similar to the Canelo fight as well with Plant, he moves and bobbles early and win the early and first half of the fight. But suddenly Benavidez wakes up in the 8th round and it was a complete domination from there.

He almost fell though, he had to hug in survived to fight in full 12 rounds.

But as we have seen, he has no power or at least David is too big for him as it doesn't have any effect on Benavidez as he keep on coming.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Caleb Plant vs David Benavidez
Post by: Jating on March 26, 2023, 07:53:52 PM
Plant was starting to get cocky early in the fight. He started off great but once he felt David's power his strategy fell apart and he turned into a punching bag the entire second half of the fight. I'm impressed that it went the distance with the amount of punishment that Plant took. Benavidez is indeed a monster and this makes me much more interested in seeing him fight Canelo. He has earned that opportunity. That is a fight where either guy could win by knockout so it is going to have a lot more demand with boxing fans than Canelo against Ryder or a rematch against Bivol.

Power of David was really evident, those uppercuts, you can see Plant's head snap everytime that David will hit him. It's probably his pride that keep his standing specially in the second half of the fight.

Yeah, very impressive on how he handle himself, specially in the second half wherein he rally because he felt that he might be losing in the score card in the first fight. Let's hear it from Canelo after he defeats Ryder if he is willing to face another Mexican in Benavidez.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Caleb Plant vs David Benavidez
Post by: lionheart78 on March 26, 2023, 08:33:28 PM
Plant was lucky enough to survive the fight, but unfortunately, he still lost in the end. It looks like he's done now as he's already lost against the best boxers.

Full defense then counters works well for David Benavidez since Caleb Plant just go straight to the defending Benavidez releasing his punches.  Almost all power punches of Caleb Plant is blocked by the arms of Benavidez, it is only rare when Plant's punches went through Benavidez's defense.  Then right after or in between those barrage of punches  of Plant, Benavidez throws his counter making a clear hit on Plant's face and body.

The nasty cut on Plant surely give Benavidez a huge favor and as expected on the ring performance, Benavidez won the fight via UD.  Though I admit that both fighters are tough, there are moments of staggers but both of them are able to survive those critical moments.  In the end, the one who works harder got the win.  Congratulations to those who bet on Benavidez via UD win.  

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So, maybe there's a chance that we'll witness a big fight between David Benavidez and Canelo Alvarez. Do you guys think it's going to happen?

Benavidez winning the fight give the possibility of a mandatory title defense of Canelo against Davis become greater we don't know the plan of the sanctioning body but we all know that this fight established that Benavidez is probably the top contender to Canelo's WBC and The Ring title.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Caleb Plant vs David Benavidez
Post by: Baofeng on March 26, 2023, 08:37:22 PM
Just as i speculated, David Benavidez won the fight via unanimous decision (115-113, 116-112, 117-111).

Lucky for Plant that David started the fight slow as he compiled points but at the end, he seemed lost all the stamina but still kudos to him that even though he absorbed all the power punches in championship rounds, he was still standing.

I don't know mate, Plant took too much damage in this fight, if I'm the trainer, I could have raised the white flag here and stop the fight. Plant doesn't deserved to be punished here by David's power, he could be LHW in this fight. And with the damage he took, it could have taken a lot from here though and might not be the same fighter next, just saying.

And as I have said, after the fight they are going to huge and bury their hatchet for good. Yeah, the beef might be true and personal, but at the end of the day, after the fight, they will have to forget about it and move on with their careers, specially Plant. They have settled it, bring everything in the table, but unfortunately, there's only one fighter, one winner here and that is David Benavidez.

Edit: On my unofficial scorecard, David winning 116-112.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Caleb Plant vs David Benavidez
Post by: serjent05 on March 26, 2023, 11:39:06 PM
Just as i speculated, David Benavidez won the fight via unanimous decision (115-113, 116-112, 117-111).

Lucky for Plant that David started the fight slow as he compiled points but at the end, he seemed lost all the stamina but still kudos to him that even though he absorbed all the power punches in championship rounds, he was still standing.

I don't know mate, Plant took too much damage in this fight, if I'm the trainer, I could have raised the white flag here and stop the fight. Plant doesn't deserved to be punished here by David's power, he could be LHW in this fight. And with the damage he took, it could have taken a lot from here though and might not be the same fighter next, just saying.

It is possible that Plant's corner is hoping for a lucky shot that will get Benavidez KO'ed.  We have seen it during the fight that there are clean punch that makes Benavidez to somehow stagger.  I think that is what Plant's corner is hoping for.

And as I have said, after the fight they are going to huge and bury their hatchet for good. Yeah, the beef might be true and personal, but at the end of the day, after the fight, they will have to forget about it and move on with their careers, specially Plant. They have settled it, bring everything in the table, but unfortunately, there's only one fighter, one winner here and that is David Benavidez.

I believe the hates before the fight are just marketing strategy to hype the fight.  We have seen that almost regularly  ;D, so I do look forward that they will embrace and exchanging good words to each other after the fight.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Caleb Plant vs David Benavidez
Post by: Fredomago on March 27, 2023, 11:10:15 AM
Plant was starting to get cocky early in the fight. He started off great but once he felt David's power his strategy fell apart and he turned into a punching bag the entire second half of the fight. I'm impressed that it went the distance with the amount of punishment that Plant took. Benavidez is indeed a monster and this makes me much more interested in seeing him fight Canelo. He has earned that opportunity. That is a fight where either guy could win by knockout so it is going to have a lot more demand with boxing fans than Canelo against Ryder or a rematch against Bivol.

Power of David was really evident, those uppercuts, you can see Plant's head snap everytime that David will hit him. It's probably his pride that keep his standing specially in the second half of the fight.

Yeah, very impressive on how he handle himself, specially in the second half wherein he rally because he felt that he might be losing in the score card in the first fight. Let's hear it from Canelo after he defeats Ryder if he is willing to face another Mexican in Benavidez.

Plant is eager to win too but Benavidez' power is too much for him, he manage to extend the fight to a decision but it was a clear win for Benavidez he showcase his talent and not to allow Plant to come back, with those solid combinations that shaken Plants toe he can't really handle that quick counter punches that Benavidez is throwing to him when he's trying to bring something out.

It might be possible that due to the injury Alvarez will not accept the challenge after the fight with Ryder. Just saying,.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Caleb Plant vs David Benavidez
Post by: robelneo on March 27, 2023, 11:23:37 AM


I believe the hates before the fight are just marketing strategy to hype the fight.  We have seen that almost regularly  ;D, so I do look forward that they will embrace and exchanging good words to each other after the fight.

As part of their legacy and respect of the future boxing community, they should do it, I remember George Foreman telling in his Vlog that his biggest regret is not congratulating Ali immediately after their match, not telling him that he is the better man that night, for boxers every fight is a journey, there's no use holding a grudge and besides both Caleb and David made money and show to the world that they are real fighters and real gentlemen after the fight.
Benavidez and Canelo will eventually meet in the ring as long as they are both in the same weight category because of what the boxing community wants and boxing organizations will find a way to pit each other.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Caleb Plant vs David Benavidez
Post by: inthelongrun on March 27, 2023, 12:21:26 PM
In this fight Plant is better than he was get knocked out by Canelo, Benavidez's stamina is too strong and he wasn't tired at any round. Congratulations for Benavidez, so he can fight with Canelo after Canelo destorying Ryder in the next 2 monhts. Judging the recent performance by Benavidez in this fight, it seems his skill is still not enough to beat Canelo, but I expect it should be a good fight since Benavidez has a strong chin too.

He is better at holding, and fighting and should have stopped earlier the referee just let Caleb plants hold on to Benavidez, it was a pity to see Caleb holding for dear life as if begging for Benavidez to slow down with the punches, with this win Benavidez is a real and strong threat to Canelo's supremacy in that division, Canelo keeps alluding Benavidez but now their road should cross and its time for them to face one another, let's see if Canelo will take the challenge to fight Benavidez after he beat Ryder.

What a fight! The fight should've been stopped if Bayless keeps warning Plant about his excessive holding. Bayless also stopped the fight multiple times during exchanges. I think he was picked by Caleb as well. Caleb demanded a bigger ring for him to move and probably a referee that won't allow dirty and clinch fights where Benavidez excels.

And as David mentioned, he does not believe that Canelo is scared, the superstar just has plenty of options. Canelo is expected to win against his WBO mandatory. We will see if the WBC will declare a mandatory on Canelo. I bet Sulaiman will choose where the money is, which means it will allow Canelo to do what he wants. I am not sure if the rematch clause of Canelo to Bivol is still alive but it might be next. I don't know what are the other options for Canelo other than Bivol which is worth an addition to his legacy. David Benavidez brings nothing to the table if Canelo pushes legacy fights and might get ignored unless a mandatory is sanctioned by the WBC. Maybe Canelo goes YOLO against the lineal champion at 175, the very dangerous yet aging Artur Beterbiev. 


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Caleb Plant vs David Benavidez
Post by: kenshi222 on March 27, 2023, 01:42:19 PM
Benavides had good stamina for now compared to the Canelo.But the fight plan is important one in the game,So the Canelo had done a good game plan to win the more power Benavides.Master plan was made by the Canelo on this tough league.Really it was impressive one of Benavides and I had heartily congratulated the winner Benavides of his wonderful game and performance in the game.Canelo targeted the Ryder in the next match.But Ryder also tougher competition for the Canelo in the name of Stamina and the experience to the game.Ryder was experienced player then Benavides and the Canelo in the league.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Caleb Plant vs David Benavidez
Post by: Baofeng on March 27, 2023, 01:46:53 PM
I think Canelo will be looking forward for a rematch against Bivol, it could be in 168 lbs, or if he wants to get another belt at 175 lbs, then Bivol will have to put his belt on the line as well. It can easily be made by Hearn though, maybe he is just waiting for the blessing from Canelo himself. WBC will let Alvarez do whatever he wants, even not going to fight his mandatories including the interim champion in David Benavidez.

Yeah, it's true that Caleb demanded a bigger ring so that he can go circles, but most likely the power of David specially in the second half of the fight, was too big to Caleb to run. Benavidez though has a good chin together with his power, so it's a dangerous combinations. So most likely there will be another fight for David late this year and it will not be Canelo.

Locking this thread now.