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Now that the dream of the six championship of Fifa has become more distant for Brazilians, it's time to start talking about the Brazilian championship 2023, after all, Brazilians are moved by football and if we are just lamenting Brazil's defeat in the world cup, we will end up going into depression :P

Our beloved "Brasileirão" starts only on April 15th, before that we will have the state games. But, the teams are already preparing their teams for the main championship in the country, and then we can discuss in this topic the hiring of technical staff and players until the championship starts.

Here are the 20 clubs that will compete in the championship:

• Palmeiras
• Flamengo
• Cruzeiro
• Internacional
• Fluminense
• Corinthians
• Athletico-PR
• Atlético
• Fortaleza
• São Paulo
• América
• Botafogo
• Santos
• Goiás
• Red Bull Bragantino
• Coritiba
• Cuiabá
• Grêmio
• Vasco
• Bahia

Of these, 15 have already lifted the cup, so they are predicting that it will be a very close dispute.

Is anyone crazy to hazard a guess at this point about the likely champion? 8)

Today, Flamengo defined who will be their coach for 2023... Vitor Perreira, who was already a coach at Corinthians this year (2022).

Unfortunately, Perreira left Corinthians "stained" due to some personal problems that made him leave the previous team, but... he doesn't let him be a great leader, because in Portugal he has already led his teams to win the league twice and a Super Cup , let's see how he does in Flamengo.

Another curiosity... I found out that this year we have 10 foreign coaches, if I'm not mistaken this is a record:

Palmeiras - Abel Ferreira (PORTUGAL)
Flamengo - Vítor Pereira (PORTUGAL)
Botafogo - Luís Castro (PORTUGAL)
Bahia - Renato Paiva (PORTUGAL)
Coritiba - António Oliveira (PORTUGAL)
Red Bull Bragantino - Pedro Caixinha (PORTUGAL)
Cuiabá - Ivo Vieira (PORTUGAL)
Fortaleza - Juan Pablo Vojvoda (ARGENTINA)
Atlético-MG - Eduardo Coudet (ARGENTINA)
Cruzeiro - Paulo Pezzolano (URUGUAI)

Is anyone else looking forward to the start of Brasileirão 2023?
Unfortunately it will still take a while, as the first league match is only in April. But, we can kill the nostalgia with the state championships that will start in January.

Practically all the teams will play in the Paulista, Carioca, Mineiro and Gaúcho championships before the Brasileirão begins.

I highlighted below the main games of each one...

In the Paulista championship, on January 15th, they face:
Santos x Mirassol;
Palmeiras x São Bento;
Corinthians x Red Bull Bragantino;
São Paulo x Ituano;

In the Carioca championship, Flamengo plays on the 12th against Audax;
And on the 15th they play:
Botafogo x Audax;
Vasco x Madureira;
Fluminense vs Resende;

The Rio Grande do Sul championship starts a little later, and Internacional faces Juventude on January 21st.
Grêmio faces São Luiz on January 17th for the Recopa Gaúcha

In the Mineiro championship there is also an important game on the 21st of January, as Atlético-MG faces Caldense

Thanks alegotardo, I was looking for this thread

Do you think it's better to create a new thread to discuss the state championships or can we discuss here?
State championships are a nice warm up until the beginning of national championship

I'm excited to see my Corinthians playing, maybe we'll see Philippe Coutinho playing here, some sources said Aston Villa is almost accepting the offer, and Philippe Coutinho too.

And I think we can see a record of foreigner players and coaches in 2023
We can discuss the transfer market of brazilian teams too

I would not say that they are that foreign honestly,Portugal speaks the same language as Brazil does if I am not wrong here.Also the other ones are from countries nearby so while they are foreigners in the sense that they are not Brazilians they are not complete foreigners if for example a coach would have been from Greece or Italy which are far away from Brazil.

I think that Palmeiras still remains the team to beat as we have seen lately,I don't think a lot of teams have made dramatic changes to their organics and I believe most of the players are the same,thus making it easy to predict that most likely Palmeiras will be Champions again.Personally I am a fan of Internacional de Porto Alegre and I would love them to win the title.

You can clearly see Portuguese coaches become mainstream in Brazil hehehe
It's almost impossible a few years ago, if you said that in the past people would call you crazy
After the huge success of Jorge Jesus in Flamengo, teams are now searching to improve their level in European way, and Portugal is the most easy country to work with, because the language and probably because the money too, it's cheaper than Spanish or Italian coaches for example.

There's another thing in Brazil, teams are now starting to manage their foreigners, like I said above, it was impossible to think in a few years, but Gremio is now having to manage their players to not exceed the quota with Luis Suarez. They will probably sell a player.
The limit of foreigner players in Brazil are 5.

Yes, Palmeiras' results were outstanding on the championship of this year. The club didn't give any chances to the other clubs to surpass them on the competition, and since we are talking about a very close championship that is going to start in April next year I think the scenario must be pretty similar.

There are no guarantees Palmeiras will win again, but just to launch an initial guess on the dark, they are the best pick among every disponible ones in Brasileirão.

Next step is a foreigner coach for the national team. Probably Jorge jesus? ;)

Palmeiras keep most of the players for the next season, the only player they sold is Gustavo Scarpa to Nottingham Forest
They are waiting to buy 2 or 3 players because the coach is satisfied with the players, and there's 4 players who came from the amateur to prefessional for the next season.

If Corinthians get Philippe Coutinho I think there's a good chance to have a solid team to compete.


I don't believe in Jorge Jesus to be the coach right now, but there's some talk in Brazil to have the first foreigner coach to the next world cup.
I think he already did a contract with Fenerbahçe.
The media is speculating about Zidane

Zidane at Corinthians? Until a few days ago I swore that this was a very unlikely hiring, but then this week I read something even more absurd....

The CBF (Brazilian football confederation), which has been looking for a coach since the end of the World Cup, seems to be interested in hiring Zidane to lead the national team, and it just hasn't done that yet because Zidane dreams of coaching France and is first awaiting a response from them.

Zidane has been without coaching a team since 2021, so if it doesn't work out at CBF, he might join Corinthians to maybe get closer to Brazilians.

No no hehehe, I'm sorry if I didn't explain well
Media is talking about Zidane to be the new coach of brazilian team, not Corinthians.

Corinthians don't have the money to bring a coach like Zidane  :D

People are talking about a possible foreigner coach to brazilian team. In my opinion it's quite possible, like you said Zidane don't have any contract right now and CBF have money to pay Zidane.
Former coach Tite was the fourth highest paid coach of the World Cup, so I think money is not a problem.

Looking forward to the start of the Brasileirão, today I was reading some random news about this championship when I came across this:

"Players of the Brasileirão elect Casagrande as the worst commentator of 2022"
He got 25% disapproval from the athletes (https://www.oliberal.com/esportes/futebol/jogadores-do-brasileirao-elegem-casagrande-como-pior-comentarista-de-2022-pedrinho-e-primeiro-1.630612) :P
And I thought that after "shut up galvão" no one could overcome him, I was wrong.

In any case, it's been a while since I've watched Rede Globo on TV, lately I've been turning to paid channels (pirated :D ) or Youtube.

How do you intend to follow the championship in 2023?

I'm anxious to see all the teams who will play brasileirão, there's some good changes on the teams.
Beginning of the year is always interesting to see after all the transfers

I'm hoping we can see Philippe Coutinho playing for Corinthians but I think it's almost impossible right now.
It will be nice to see some players like Suarez, but I'm worried about my team, Corinthians is not doing well in transfer market and there's no good players coming

This is the last year of Fabio Santos and probably last year of Paulinho in Corinthians. Maybe the team can get some good players from the base, and remember to keep an eye in Copa Sao Paulo of JR Footbal, there's always great players who is going to play in professional this year.

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About the channels, Globo is the most obvious and easy way to watch on Wednesdays and Sundays.
Globo, SporTV and Premiere on TV channels, and Globoplay in streaming, I think these are the ways to watch this year.

It was because he mix sports with politics on his comments, becoming an unpleasant political shill in the eyes of the audience who is watching soccer because they enjoy the sport and not because they are interested in the political views of the players or commentators involved. It has become more blatant regards his negative comments on Neymar during Qatar's World Cup.

Youtube is my only mean of access, but I don't know if they will allow it to transmit in real time. Usually they don't.

The funny thing is: UOL did this research, and Casagrande works for UOL now  :D


I'll try to find if any other streaming will get brasileirão, but I think it's hard, since Rede Globo has the broadcasting rights for the Brazilian championship and Copa do Brasil.
There's some talk about Premiere broadcast on Amazon Prime Video, but I think you'll have to pay (just like Premiere)
Premiere is a group of channels where you can buy all the matches of Brasileirao to watch, it's popular in Brazil, but Premiere is part of Globo.

Yes, you have to pay almost R$ 60.00 to follow the games. :o
Premier is a "package" that is part of the so-called "Prime Video Channels" that are charged separately from the subscription.
On this site you can check all the packages and their prices, but I'm not sure if Premier is up to date, if the price is frozen or if there will still be an update this year before the Brasileirão starts. https://associados.amazon.com.br/resource-center/prime-video-channels
 (https://associados.amazon.com.br/resource-center/prime-video-channels)

Currently, I think the best option for those who don't want to risk having their game interrupted in the middle of the match watching a pirated channel is to hire Premier directly by Globo for R$ 29.90 on this website https://premiere.globo.com/ (https://premiere.globo.com/)

Another option is GloboPlay + SportTV for R$42.90/month, which can also be subscribed at https://globoplay.globo.com/assine/sportv/ (https://globoplay.globo.com/assine/sportv/)

In my opinion if you are a huge fan, it's worth to subscribe for Premiere directly, 12x 29,90 brl is not expensive, and more important, you can also watch the state championships (Paulista, Gaucho and Mineiro), Copa do Brasil and also Brasileiro A and B. Tons of content for 29,90.
You can also have 3 logged devices and share the subscription with someone in your home.

I'm following my team Corinthians, and at least they did the contract with Yuri Alberto, it's important to have him this season

This is probably the players who will play for 2023 season:

Goal - Cássio, Carlos Miguel e Matheus Donelli
Defense - Balbuena, Gil, Bruno Méndez and Caetano
Full-back - Fagner, Fábio Santos, Matheus Bidu and Rafael Ramos
Midfield - Renato Augusto, Giuliano, Maycon, Fausto Vera, Du Queiroz, Roni, Cantillo and Paulinho
Attack - Adson, Róger Guedes, Yuri Alberto, Júnior Moraes, Giovane, Romero and Gustavo Mosquito

They need to get at least a couple of players to Brasileiro and Libertadores, I'm not confident enough with this team.
In bold are the possible starters.

After the first round of the Paulista and Carioca, we have at least a taste of what to expect from main teams.
I did not follow Mineiro and Gaucho, too much to watch but I can say this:

Paulista:

Santos - A promising first match, on par with Palmeiras. It showed evolution unlike Corinthians and Sao Paulo.
With a little more work with the younger players, Santos's team has everything to reach the top 4 this year in Paulista.

Palmeiras - Only a draw against Sao Bento, but the team played well and had 2 irregular goals, in my opinion Palmeiras made a good 1st game and fans should not be worried.

Corinthians - I didn't like the first game, Cassio had to save Corinthians again, like last year. I know Bragantino is a good team, but Corinthians didn't played well. It's almost the same time of last year, and it's obvious to me that they need to hire 2 or 3 players to fight for title and to make a good participation in Libertadores.

Sao Paulo - With 45,000 fans watching the first match, Sao Paulo only got a draw, and the fans are already complaining. Rogerio Ceni still have a lot of work to do to find a better formation, it looks like Corinthians, playing like last year, with nothing new.

Carioca:

Flamengo - As expected, 2 matches two victories, without any problem. It's the favorite to win Carioca, and they are preparing to play Fifa Club World Cup. Victor Pereira got a great team to work. Seems to me the most prepared team to win.

Vasco - The main team is playing at USA, so they played with substitutes and managed to draw the first match, I can't analyze correctly without the main team. But at least they did not lose, and substitutes will try their best to be at starters.

Botafogo - Played with some substitutes, like Vasco, but for a different reason. Lost to Audax (they made a beautiful goal) and after that Audax played only in defense mode. Hard to analyze.

Fluminese - A victory against a weak team, Resende, but did their job and won 2 x 0. I think Fluminense is the second force in Carioca this year. They need to improve a lot of things, but they are in the right way. The new players didn't start the match but they got into the game in the end, I think the team will improve with both Lima and Keno starting the matches.

In my analysis of the Paulista championship, I think that the current champion Palmeiras will emerge with strength after having also won the Brazilian championship last year. I believe that the Endrick boy is already well adapted to the professional team and will still be a great revelation this year.

But São Paulo will also give a lot of work with this reformulation in the squad, as it maintained the base of the team but continued the work of coach Rogério Ceni after the departure of twelve players, my bet is for a superior performance of the striker Wellington Rato who was highlighted at Atlético-GO.

Santos and Corinthians? Maybe, I'm in disbelief for now :P

Yesterday I watched both matches of Santos and Corinthians

Santos did a horrible match against Guarani, almost unrecognizable. Totally different than 1st match, it was horrible to see.
As I said in the last post here: .
They will probably have to work more to adjust the team with new players.

The Corinthians team, unlike the first match, played well, of course the opponent is weak, I know that, but it showed a more aggressive team with the will to win.
Yuri Alberto played this time and it seems to me that he is the best player of the team, perhaps the most important reinforcement that Corinthians managed to keep.

Sao Paulo and Palmeiras will play today.

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Talking about the teams of Brasileiro and possible candidates to the title, look at Luis Suarez and Gremio. The atacker did a hat-trick at first match
Here you can watch the 3 goals: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PzmVc5xRL_w

It's clearly that he's in another level.

I'm seriously thinking to bet on Suarez to be the top goalscorer of Brasileiro, I'll check the odds when available, but I'm thinking to bet on him.

I also think that Luis Suárez will be one of the great attractions of Brazilian football in 2023 and will make Grêmio quickly conquer important positions in the Brazilian championship.
For a team that has just returned to the country's top league, it's not bad at all, let's see if it really comes to fruition.

Sebre Suárez, I researched your stats and check it out:
The 35-year-old striker is the fifth highest active scorer in world football. There are 528 goals divided into games for Nacional, Groningen, Ajax, Liverpool, Barcelona, Atlético de Madrid and the Uruguayan national team, where he is the best scorer in history, with 68 goals.
Not bad!

Suárez helped Grêmio to win last match against Caxias, for the Gaucho championship, he scored a beautiful goal and Grêmio won 2 x 1.

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I don't if you guys know, but in 5 days Palmeiras and Flamengo will play the Supercopa do Brazil.
It's a match to define the best braziliam team, the winner of Brasileiro vs the winner of Copa do Brasil

Here's the odds:
https://i.ibb.co/yFn1TWq/Capturar.png (https://ibb.co/xqS0vJ6)
Source (https://duelbits.com/sportsbook/soccer/match/38593705-SE-Palmeiras-SP-vs-CR-Flamengo-RJ)

Hard to bet on this match hehehe, both teams are playing well, but I think Flamengo is a little more better at the moment, he won the last match 5x0 while Palmeiras only draw.
What do you guys think about this match? Who's going to be the champion?

Do you know why this topic should be more popular here on bitcointalk?

Because the Brasileirão was elected for the second time in a row the strongest league in the world, surpassing even the Premier League^[1]

I don't know exactly what the criteria are for this choice, but I believe that the strong performance of the Brazilians in the Libertadores and in the Copa Sudamericana can explain the election for this top ranking.

This is the complete list of the 10 strongest leagues in the world according to IFFHS
     Brasileirão (1,181 points)
     Premier League (1,086)
     Spanish Championship (967.5)
     German Championship (921.5)
     Italian Championship (866)
     French Championship (855)
     Portuguese Championship (853.25)
     Dutch Championship (808.75)
     Argentine Championship (798.5)
     Paraguayan Championship (701)

^[1] https://iffhs.com/posts/2483 (https://iffhs.com/posts/2483)

Wow, this is nice  :o
Maybe it's because of the level of all teams, in Brazil we have more than 10 teams who are capable of win the national championship, while other countries have 3 or 4

This year for example, there's 2 favorites: Palmeiras and Flamengo, but I can list here other teams and nobody will be surprised if one of these win the championship:

Corinthians
Sao Paulo
Santos
Fluminense
Vasco
Botafogo
Gremio
Inter
Cruzeiro
Atlético MG
Athletico PR

So 13 teams make the championship strong enough

We have 17 different teams who won the Brasileirao

Exactly, and to complement this analysis, we can also mention the fact that the best soccer players (in quantity, not just the best) are Brazilians, making Brazil the country that most "exports" players, followed by France and Argentina.
The information was obtained from a study carried out by the "CIES Football Observatory" which monitors 135 football leagues around the world.

Returning to the subject of the topic, and complementing your information....

In fact, it's impossible to predict at this moment with any guarantee who will be the winner of the Brasileirão.
They say that after the half of the championship it is already possible to say that, but it is still a tournament that has a lot of "rotation" of winners.
We have many very good teams, in fact the Brasileirão is an extremely difficult championship.

Something very curious I read today about the main Brazilian football championship....
The Twitter profile @gerasofascore used artificial intelligence to recreate the 26 team mascots that will compete in the championship this year.
And they were really, really good.
In order not to pollute this topic too much, here is the link with the images:
https://extra.globo.com/esporte/mascotes-de-26-clubes... (https://extra.globo.com/esporte/mascotes-de-26-clubes-do-brasileirao-sao-recriados-com-inteligencia-artificial-confira-as-imagens-saiba-como-isso-afeta-gremio-25652111.html)

Now, the next step would be to create NFTS with these characters, I think that would sell really well.

Well, it is not to be forgotten that the Uruguayan has caused a sensation in the Guild, and I like this, especially when they are going to face Palmeiras, honestly with this player you can see that he is at a very high level, what he can do is great , and despite the fact that Corinthias was about to bring in CR7, that would have been something phenomenal, I don't know if you have already seen a movie called "Tomorrow's War", but there they refer to the fact that the Qatar World Cup finalist was going Being Brazil, it's a very good movie, but since it was filmed long before the World Cup, the same creators of the movie saw Brazil in the final.


I have a theory, for me all Brazilians are born with soccer in their DNA, because they play it too well, of course he could not deny the quality that is in Europe, but really the Brazilians for me are on another level, the best thing is that When you play soccer with a Brazilian it helps you learn their technique, they are very nice people, in fact a Venezuelan, one called Yeferson Soteldo, plays very well for Santos, in fact he is a good friend of Neymar (Ney because His training was always from Santos) but when he plays for the Venezuela team the difference is noticeable, so this is because he is always in contact with a high level of football, but with respect to the Brasileirao it is spectacular because it is very exciting, in fact Compared to football in Europe, La Liga, Ligue 1, Bundesliga is also very exciting, in this there is a certain analogy with the Brasileirao.

I will go further and tell you that even in the middle of the championship it is still very difficult for us to know who will be the champion.


Awesome  :o :o :o
My team Corinthians is well represented with the eagle image  8)


In Brazil it is really true that there are soccer fields and soccer courts scattered all over the country. In every city you find small fields, and at least about 80% of the young boys like to play soccer, so with this absurd amount of potential players, they discover many excellent players.
It is different from other countries.
The cost to play soccer is also cheap, it's just a ball, and it's also easy to find boys playing barefoot.

And there are also many youth teams, U15m U17, U20, etc.

It is very interesting to watch the Brazilian championship games because you can see the next players that will play in Europe.

It's already February, did anyone here think that the Brasileirão teams already had their teams "closed"? If so, then they were mistaken.
From what I've been following, some important changes ended up being made official and there are also a lot of rumors of other transfers that could change the team's picture for the next edition of the championship.
Follow...

Calebe: Confirmed the sale by Atlético-MG to Fortaleza for R$ 6 million in order to get 50% of the player's economic rights;

Vina: Rumors say that he will leave Ceará, but it is still speculated whether he will go to Grêmio or Fluminente;

Andrey Santos: Yeap... Vasco has already sold him to Chelsea, but the player is having problems getting a work visa and could be loaned to a Brazilian team until that is resolved. The best possibilities for now are with Palmeiras or Corinthians.

Do you know anything else?

Brazil's transfer window is from January 11 until April 4, after which a club can only make a contract with players with no contractual ties to another club.

So I think we will still have some surprises, but without the players who are in Europe, because the transfer window has already closed for them.

This news about Andrey Santos took me by surprise, I will be happy if he signs with Corinthians.
From what I've seen in the state championships so far, São Paulo, Corinthians and Santos need to hire some more players or make big changes, only Palmeiras is ready for the Brasileirão, especially Santos.

There are conversations going on about bringing Marinho from Flamengo to Corinthians.
And talking about my Corinthians, we still have 4 players who are in the U20 national team in Colombia: Giovane, Robert Renan, Guilherme Biro and Pedro
These players can be registered for the Brasileirao and be part of the 2023 squad.

Now that Flamengo lost the Supercup to Palmeiras, and missed the semi-final of the Club World Cup, it may be that some players will leave, and the coach Vitor Pereira himself is in a difficult situation, I think we will have news soon.
Remembering that currently Flamengo and Palmeiras are considered the big favorites of the Brasileirão.

You have said it all, if we look at it, the best players in the world always stand out, the Brazilians, also the Argentines, South America does have great potential in terms of soccer, we can only see the example of what Argentina won, I am sure that Brazil had some problems that it could not solve at the time, but this helps the Brazilians, which are the problems they had, to be corrected in their entirety, this has a lot to do with it because in Brazil the Braileirao is one of the most important tournaments, in Brazil soccer is like a religion, that's why I love that country, aside from the fact that they are very happy and positive, they play soccer like masters, and that is reflected in Santos, Flamengo, Palmeiras and all the teams .

Today, the 20 clubs that will compete in the Brasileirão 2023 met at the "Technical Council" meeting to define some details about the start of the championship.
With that, the CBF released the definitive table of all the games that will take place between April 15th and December 3rd.

The debut will be marketed by the game of the current champion (Palmeiras) against the Cuiabá team that will play at home.
In addition to these, the following games complete the first round of the championship:

• Botafogo vs São Paulo
• Corinthians vs Cruzeiro
• Bragantino vs Bahia
• Atlético-MG vs Vasco
• Grêmio vs Santos
• Athletico-PR vs Goiás
• Fortaleza vs Internacional
• America-MG vs Fluminense

Does anyone risk any guesses for this championship start?
To get off to a good start and for good luck, you can't lose bet on the first round ;)

I saw the news yesterday, came here to post and you were faster hahaha.
The news this year is that the championship will have breaks during the official dates of Fifa and the Brazilian team games.

If a player is called up, he will have at least 48 hours of rest to play again in the championship for the club.
The clubs have been asking the CBF for this for some time, and now they did the changes.
In my opinion, Flamengo and Palmeiras had a strong influence, as they now have some players in brazilian team, and must have pressured CBF on this issue.

About the first-round bets, I still can't think of anything, because the teams are still adjusting.
The teams are still unstable, just look at the example of Santos, they started well in the Paulista championship, but now they are in last place in their group, and the third worst team in the Paulista championship.
Speaking of today, the best teams are Palmeiras and Gremio so far, even Flamengo's team is disappointing in my opinion.

I found it strange that I had not yet received a notification about the topic of the Brasileirão. After all, there was a new topic...

The Brasileirão hasn't started yet. It's still in the state championships, right?
I've been getting notifications that Palmeiras has won almost every game, but I just now noticed that it's Paulista.
It looks like Palmeiras will have another solid season.


@alegotardo When the Brasileirão starts, talk to me, to get you a table as I did for the Portuguese League (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5410570.0). If you want of course.

In Brazil they are having the state championships
The Brazilian Championship will start on April 16, 56 days away.
The calendar is very different from the European one.

To have a better idea, the state championships go from January 15 to April 9.
The Copa do Brasil starts on February 22 and ends on September 24.

And yes, Palmeiras' team is better than the others so far, as I even commented in my last post, Palmeiras and Gremio are better than the rest.
Even Flamengo isn't that good yet, the coach Vitor Pereira hasn't managed to adjust the team yet.

Joker, I really liked the table you made, it is very good.

I haven't seen anything on the bookmakers about the Brazilian championship yet, but I am sure that Palmeiras will start as the big favorite.

It started only in the women's modality.
But in the men's modality it hasn't started yet, in fact it's in the state championships.
The main Brazilian championship should start on April 16th.
Obviously I would like a place, tks!!! 8)

Much is said about Palmeiras, I believe he should start the championship as a favorite, but I don't know if he will be able to maintain this favoritism during the games.
This year we have many teams that are coming in very strong, with a new and challenging squad for opponents, bettors will have a very difficult job in predicting the results and emotion should take over the country (for those who love football).

There's a great match to watch today: Flamengo vs Independiente del Valle for the Recopa Sudamericana

If anyone is interested in watching, the game will be broadcast on the channels: ESPN and STAR+.

The interesting thing about watching this game today is that it can probably define the future of Flamengo, Vitor Pereira and directly influence the Brazilian championship that starts in a few weeks.
It is essential that Flamengo win and not only guarantee the title, but play well, since Flamengo lost the last two championships they played in a very bad way.

The odds for today's match are all on Flamengo, with an incredible 1.25 for victory.
It is worth remembering that Independiente won the first match 1-0

https://i.ibb.co/1stP1nw/Capturar.png (https://ibb.co/dbwVFcz)

Making a good reference between the subject of this topic (Brasileirão 2023) and the area it is in (Gambling)....
I discovered today that only two teams in this championship are not sponsored by bookmakers... Palmeiras (current champion) and Cuiabá.

Among the best sponsorships in this niche, we have Betano sponsoring Atlético-MG and Fluminense, there is also Sportsbet.io which sponsors São Paulo, Betfair which recently signed a contract with Cruzeiro... in addition to others such as Pixbet, Betcris , Dafabet, Blaze, Galera.bet, Estrelabet and Pix365bet sponsoring the other teams.

Gambling companies are still on the rise, sponsoring campaigns ranging from BitcoinTalk subscriptions to football teams... a lot of money involved and being invested 8)

My team, Corinthians is sponsored (not the main sponsor) by pixbet, to be honest I have never used any betting site that are advertising on Brazilian teams, as I give preference to the services here on the forum and especially my campaign.
But it is incredible to see the invasion of sponsors of this type in these last 2 years.
They are drawing so much attention that the government is already making proposals to regulate this entire sector and collect taxes.

So far I have not found any company that has campaign in bitcointalk and also in the Brazilian teams.

A curiosity that I have not found yet, but I would like to know the contract values with the teams, I will research more about.

I want to see Santos vs Gremio, especially because Santos is one of my favorite teams, I have had the opportunity to see them play live in my country when they are in the Copa Libertadores de América, and since Santos is playing the Venezuelan Soteldo It makes me even more of a fan, although Palmeiras is also another of my favourites.

Of course, I'm not going to say that Santos will easily beat Gremio either, because as I said, a Brazilian team can give you a big surprise at any time, but if I bet it's on Santos, I'll do it based only on my emotions, I don't care. if I lose it, by the way, will it be broadcast by Band from Brazil? I like to see the games from Brazil but in their original language.


That is something that surprises me a lot, besides Palmeiras without sponsorship? how can something like this be happening? This surprises me, these teams have always been outstanding, what happens is that soccer in South America does not have much support in terms of large sponsorships, most sponsorships are in Europe, that is something that should change, Brazilian soccer It's not just any fútbol.

If we do a small break or zoom to each Brazilian team or local teams, those who support the most are the local companies of their countries, it is difficult to attract the attention of other large companies despite the fact that Brazilian fútbol is one of the most beautiful in the world..

Exactly!

In Brazil, we don't have big companies like Adidas, Nike or Fly Emirates sponsoring a football team, in the same way as it happens in European teams.
Around here, I think that the biggest sponsorship there has ever been from a multinational company (which is not originally from Brazil) has been from Chevrolet, which has already sponsored Brazilian teams like Intenacional and Grêmio.
Recently it also had the sponsorship of FIAT, but it was for the Brazilian Football Team and not for a specific team. This sponsorship lasted from 2018 until the end of last year.

Apart from those, forgive me if I'm wrong, but we only have sponsorships from smaller companies that are local.

Much of this "problem" is due to the fact that the advertising that these sponsors do in Brazilian football ends up being restricted to Brazil only, something very different from what happens with the European championships in which "the whole world" watches.

Maybe that could change a bit in the next sequence of contracts. In recent years, the Brasileirão has had greater visibility internationally. It's true that it still doesn't have the same level as the European championships, but that will be very difficult to reach. Perhaps Palmeiras and Flamengo will get bigger sponsorships soon, as they have had more international impact.

They need to standout both in the Brasileirao and the international arena in Copa Libertadores so they make headlines,they should go the extra mile and their players should score really entertaining goals and the games between teams in this Brazilian Serie A should start to become stronger and most importantly that the home team which usually wins even against stronger teams that happen often here should start to disappear.Only when such achievements will be reached only then the impact in international arena for this league will be start to be seen.

The main Brazilian championship has been broadcast internationally for a long time.
Since 2019, if I'm not mistaken, it has already been broadcast, for example, to the United States with voiceovers in English and Spanish, in addition to Portuguese. There is even transmission to China with voiceover in Mandarin.

I think what is really missing is the interest of other fans in following the Brazilian championship. People are naturally more interested in European football and I think that is unlikely to change.

Brazilian teams need to stand out more in international championships, play against teams known worldwide and win them, to gradually gain notoriety and gain respect from fans in the rest of the world.

In Portugal, there has been more talk about the Brazilian championship, because now there are many Portuguese coaches who are doing a good job.
Even so, it's not one of the most followed championships, that's true.

This is quite a bold assertion. While it's true that the Brazilian championship has garnered some international recognition, I would venture to say that this recognition has yet to yield fruit in terms of global interest, making your proclamation both bold and puzzling. Let's pause for some serious thought, shall we? Is our national football team competitive with the finest in Europe? Or do we prefer to remain the stereotypical big fish in a small pond? It's time we asked ourselves honestly, how are we going about spreading our particular brand of football to the masses? Could it be that we are asking too much of the gods?

In part I think that the Brasileirao is quite relevant, it has become famous, in the news they always dedicate a part of their news to talking about the Brasileirao because it is very attractive fútbol, just like the Argentine soccer tournament.

In the Copa Libertadores de América, the Brazilian teams are the ones that stand out the most, they have a great level in fútbol and tend to win most of the time, it is very fought with the Argentines, the good thing about all this is that the more display they have, more international companies will see them.

The state championships are reaching the final stretch and soon after the Brasileirão 2023 begins, are you ready for the bets? It starts on the 15th of April... only one month to go.

This year the championship gained reinforcement in quality teams as Cruzeiro, Vasco, Bahia and Grêmio entered the "Serie A" of the championship, which will probably make it more exciting and much more competitive.

Sports sites are already talking about favorites, and the most acclaimed I've been reading are Flamengo and Palmeiras teams, do you agree with this prediction?
I think it's too early to talk about favorites. As much as I'm rooting for my favorite team.... Internacional 8), I prefer to wait for the opening rounds of the championship to form an opinion.

How are the state championships going?
I know they are very different, and the big teams don't usually perform well. But maybe you can already get an idea of how the teams are prepared.

At the beginning of the state championships I had one opinion, and now it has changed almost completely.
I watched a lot of games in the São Paulo state championship, the Rio de Janeiro state championship, and some of Gremio's games.

Corinthians disappointed me, they played well at the beginning of the championship, but in the end they couldn't beat Ituano. In my opinion, this team is not capable of fighting for the Brazilian Championship title, nor to have a good campaign in the Libertadores. We urgently need three new and good players, and Andrey Santos who went to Vasco would be a great option.
The team is very old with Fagner, Fabio Santos, Renato Augusto, Paulinho, Gil and Cassio. Unfortunately it is time to look to the future and build a younger team.

About the other teams I will speak less, but Flamengo, São Paulo and Santos that are always favorites, disappointed me too, the 3 teams are in crisis and are no longer favorites for the title this year.
Negative highlight for Flamengo that lost 4 decisions this year and is not playing well since they changed coach.

Now Palmeiras is strong, and is the absolute favorite in my opinion.

Grâmio pleased me a lot, it has everything to be a good season and reach the top 5.

I've been analyzing Palmeiras' history and I've noticed that they've only managed to win two championships in a row on two occasions. (1972, 1973, 1993, 1994)

Do you think Palmeiras has what it takes to win two championships in a row?

This year there will be more Portuguese coaches in the Brazilian teams, who already know Abel Ferreira well. I think this year will be more difficult. Unless really the opponents are really bad.

Yes, I agree with this prediction. Palmeiras made an excellent campaign last year and they have all the tools to repeat the performance this year. 1 year is a too short period of time for another teams to improve in a level to become real threats to the currently champion. Flamengo's advantage is to be a powerful club, with the largest crowd among all, influent, wealthy and popular. They are always a decent competitor.

Well, about Cruzeiro, especifically, the situation is pretty bad yet. Although upgrades were made since last year, the crowd is still mad on the team, due to the poor gameplay against weak teams such as América-MG, last saturday.
I'm not confident Cruzeiro is going to make the championship more exciting and competitive. It seems there is still a long path ahead until they can become a solid club again. The question is if Ronaldo can make it work.

Yes, sure, Palmeiras is the favorite to win again in my opinion, even if it's hard to win twice in a row.

Of course it is hard to predict which team will be champion before the championship even starts, but from all the matches I've seen so far of the Brazilian teams, Palmeiras is the favorite.
The team managed to keep almost the same players, and even got some reinforcements.

During the championship there may be some teams that also play very well and that nobody was expecting.

But of the big teams that are always favorites, Palmeiras is the only one that is playing VERY well, with an old coach, a team mixed between the experienced and the young, and so on...

In the bookmakers and among the bettors, Flamengo should be the favorite at the odds, but I didn't like the soccer presented by Flamengo at all.
Flamengo this year already lost the Club World Cup, Recopa Sul-Americana, Supercopa do Brasil and in the carioca championship is in 3rd place.
If Flamengo loses a few more games I think coach Vitor Pereira will be fired.

As I've said before, I wouldn't want to talk about favoritism early, but I confess that I also believe that Palmeiras has a great chance of winning twice in a row for the campaign they've been doing in 2023.

The year has barely started and Palmeiras has already come "motivated" to win titles, the Super Cup they already won by beating Flamengo in the decisive final.
In the State Championship (Paulistão), Palmeiras also had a great campaign, eliminating the three main rivals early on.
Will the Brasileirão be as easy as that too?

I've been checking this Wikipedia page (https://pt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lista_de_campe%C3%B5es_do_Campeonato_Brasileiro_de_Futebol) to find out who has won this championship consecutively and I found out that this is much more common than I imagined.... here's a summary of the data:

• 8 teams have managed to win consecutively: Santos, Palmeiras, Internacional, Flamengo, Corinthians, São Paulo and Cruzeiro;
• The leader of this ranking is Santos, who has managed to lift the cup for 5 consecutive years; :o
• The last team to achieve this feat was Cruzeiro in the years 2019 and 2020;
• Palmeiras won consecutively for the last time in 1993 and 1994.

Has Palmeiras's turn come again?

For Flamengo supporters who believe in a good performance by their team in this championship, they will have one more reason to believe that they will be able to lift this cup....

Striker Bruno Henrique is returning to the games after almost 1 year sidelined due to a serious injury to his right knee.
The medical department has already "released" the player and the prediction is that he will participate in the debut game that will be against Coritiba on April 16, at Maracanã.

Would anyone here bet that he will score a goal in this match?

Will he be in the starting lineup?
With just 15 days of training will it be enough for him to get in the ideal shape to start playing? He may even play, but he won't be the starter and that reduces the possibility of scoring.

Usually a player who has a serious injury takes a few weeks to have the ideal confidence level to play good games.

A striker of his caliber would have no problems scoring goals and I bet he will score a goal.For me the fact that he has been missing for such a long time is another confidence booster that he wants to score as many goals as he can.Of course he is going to play very cautious in the beginning as he would not like to get injured again but once he gets up to speed and his confidence boosts then it is the time that he will most probably score a goal.Even if he does not score the importance of such a great striker for the team is also a confidence booster for all of the team members,so only advantages will the team have because of his return.

Good to see a new thread for the brazilian soccer championship
Will stick around to check the news
Do we have a bet for who will be the 1st, 2nd and third place or not yet?

As far as I'm concerned, Palmeiras has everything it takes to do it again, it's not something that should surprise us, for me Palmeiras is the elite team in Brazil, and as you say, Flamengo didn't get very far in The club world cup, in fact, was very disappointing, I had high hopes for this team, and more because of the statements that some players gave, but everything stopped there, that's why for me in football everything is possible, and as I have Said Palmeiras has the material to do it again.

If they play at the Maracana, it will be so that the forward can shine, I don't see any other way, besides, it's not that Coritiba is a bad or easy team, but Flamengo has a great team, they are very strong and they understand each other on the pitch, and Here in the Brasilerirao, the team that understands each other the best is the one that goes the furthest, this is undoubtedly one of the things that can make a difference, maybe there will be that reputation of Flamengo, Palmeiras and the truth is that I have a lot of faith in Santos .

I haven't placed the bet yet, and I don't think it's available at the bookmakers yet either, but the first place I think will be Palmeiras.
Although I am a Corinthians fan, it's hard to admit that Palmeiras team is superior to the others at the moment.
They have just signed Richard Ríos, who was playing for Guarani, and they have almost completed the signing of Artur, who was playing for Red Bull Bragantino. Two very good players.
And the fact of hiring only 2 or 3 players shows that the team is already very good and playing well. Not to mention that now there are players from Palmeiras in the Brazilian team and they must work even harder.


Wow, 10 months without playing made a lot of difference for Flamengo's team, which visibly got worse.
Maybe the return of the player will improve the team and help them to be more decisive, because Flamengo's team is not doing well at all, even though they are in the final of the carioca championship.
I won't bet on a goal yet, but I know that it will improve the team.
And we also have to see if he can handle coming back and playing all the time or just half.

Palmeiras is undoubtedly the favorite club to win the competition and we have a lot of difficult finding someone who goes against this prediction everywhere we go. Even supporters of rival teams agree Palmeiras is going to win another edition of the tournament this year.
The 2nd and third places are still a mistery, though. Flamengo is quite popular and always a favorite team to finish on the top positions, but the competition must be tough for a selection of clubs considered to have a similar performance level.

Today Palmeiras played the first game of the São Paulo state championship final against Água Santa (an almost unknown team, and the big surprise of the championship), and lost 2-1.
Palmeiras didn't play badly, it was the other team that played very well and got the victory.

In the next match, 1 week from now, I think about excellent odds to bet on Palmeiras to be champion, I think it will pay off to make this bet. As soon as I know what the odds will be I will post here.

In 13 days the Brazilian championship will start. I will try to do a rank here before it starts to see if my predictions will be good. If someone wants to do it, it will be nice to see at the end of the championship.
If you don't want to do it for all teams, at least for the top 8

Palmeiras. São paulo and corinthians are usually the favorite ones
Let’s see what happens this year

We already know the dates for the championship?

And what are the main websites to bet in it?

Yes sir!
The CBF has already released the date, time and place of the first 10 rounds of the Brasileirão (Brazilian championship).
You can check this information on the official CBF website, or if you're too lazy to look for it, you can go straight to this file (https://conteudo.cbf.com.br/cdn/202304/20230402165722_524.pdf)  :P

Where to bet. At Duelbits, of course.
It's not available yet, but I'm sure they'll soon release this championship here on the website: https://duelbits.com/sportsbook/soccer (https://duelbits.com/sportsbook/soccer)

I think all the major betting websites will have the Brazilian championship available, but like alegotardo, I vote for DuelBits.

I haven't found the odds for the season's champion yet, but I think it will be as follows:
1 - Flamengo
2 - Palmeiras
3 - Atlético MG

obs - it's not my prediction, it's what I think it will be at the bookmakers.
obs 2 - I'm finishing my prediction list for 2023 championship, I'll post before the championship starts

For those interested in the Libertadores da America, I have created a topic: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5447531.0
As the Brazilians are always the favorites, you might like to post there as well.
Enjoy because the cup has already started.

you know what could be fun?
having a "bolão" here on who will be the champions
I know that with ethereum it would be possible to code a betting smart contract for that, but with BTC the best way is probably using an escrow

just an idea
anybody likes it?

I think it's a very cool idea Lucasgabd
Can we do it here on this topic or would we have to create a topic just for that? I don't know if there's any kind of rule for this

If it works out, we can do something simple, you can have a trusted user as escrow, and use a cheap network like Polygon (if you prefer, it can also be BTC hehehe).

Besides choosing the champion, it can also be the top 5 teams to make it more exciting, otherwise everyone will choose only Palmeiras and Flamengo hahaha.
I just gave some ideas, if you do it I'll accept whatever you think is better.

I gave this idea:
But without thinking about money hehehe

Yes, it would be very interesting!

Maybe @TryNinja can help us with that, I remember that for the Fifa world cup (if I'm not mistaken) he had released an experimental system to control the bets, but I think it was based on the Ethereum network. Then it wouldn't be necessary to have an intermediary to control these bets.

We just need to define some basic rules to put into practice, and wait for the manifestation of our friend... he very rarely frequents the Gambling area (he's afraid of taking a liking to gambling :P )

This weekend the state championships will come to an end and we will soon know the champions.
Yesterday we already had some champions such as:

Gaúcho - Gremio champion
Cearense - Fortaleza champion
Catarinese - Criciúma champion

Today we will have the main ones: Paulista, Carioca and Mineiro

I bet that Palmeiras, Fluminense and Atlético MG will be the respective champions.

For the Brazilian championship, Grêmio, Fluminese and Atlético MG should start well, since they have great teams.
Gremio may have Suarez as the top scorer of the Brazilian championship, Fluminese has the great reinforcement of defender Marcelo who played for Real Madrid for many years, Atlético MG may also have the top scorer Hulk this year.
Even if Palmeiras loses the title to Água Santa, they can still be the champion and start as favorites in brasileiro.

hahaha cool
yes,with money or without it could be fun
I think it should have a new topic
not sure if the gambling board rules allow it

I'm sure we could also organize it in the portuguese tab anyways

Only 4 days left to start the biggest football championship in Brazil! Are your bets already set?

Today I saw a pretty cool ranking that CazéTV (https://www.youtube.com/@CazeTV) made with the analysis of the 20 clubs in the championship, pointing out what could be the classification of each of the teams until the end of the championship.
It was certainly just a "joke" and no one should rely solely on that to place their bets, but it was a very interesting analysis.

I'm not going to risk a champion yet, but I already have some bets (secret) for the first rounds of the championship

I think it's okay to create a topic here.
There are other similar tests that occur in this tab, such as this one: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5438071.0

I will post here my prediction of the 20 team standings, it would be nice if you would post it as well.
I'm still finalizing it, but I'll post it here soon.

I think Palmeiras will be the champion.
I think the bookmakers are wrong to put Flamengo as the favorite.
The team has just fired their coach Vitor Pereira and is clearly in crisis, they have lost all the finals they have played this year, if I am not mistaken they lost 4 of them plus the world club championship.

Some teams not often talked about, such as Gremio, Bragantino and Fortaleza can finish in a good position.
Bahia's team can also be interesting to watch.

I'd say Palmeiras as number 1
Flamengo as number 2
and Sao Paulo as number 3

but I have no idea what I'm talking about

curious to see the results
will keep up with this topic

Speaking of the  Brasileirão, which is about to start, Flamengo fired its coach Vítor Pereira and placed Mário Jorge as interim coach, because according to the press, Flamengo fans and the management of the Flamengo team want to bring back the jorge jesus, but according to the press jorge jesus told the flamengo management to wait a bit because at the moment Fenerbahçe, which is a team from turkey in which jorge jesus is the head coach, is in the second position of the turkish league and mathematically Fenerbahçe still has a chance to become champion, so while Fenerbahçe has a chance to become champion, Jorge Jesus will not leave Fenerbahçe

The most interesting thing about this news is that, according to the press, the president of Flamengo, Rodolfo Landim, and also the vice president of Flamengo, Marcos Braz, who expected that Jorge Jesus would leave Fenerbahçe immediately to return to Flamengo, agreed to wait for the Fenerbahçe doesn't have more chances to win the Turkish league or win and also that it also doesn't have more chances and to win the Turkish Cup or win the Turkish Cup so that Jorge Jesus returns to Flamengo, to be honest I hope that flamengo wait for jorge jesus, because their other option is Jorge Sampaoli who was the coach of sevilla, recently fired, as i could see in the comments, it seems to me that the fans liked this option, but according to the press the president of flamengo doesn't want Jorge Sampaoli. Anyway, with the  Brasileirão close by, I wonder if Flamengo will be fine with the interim coach.

Only in Brazil we can say that a team (Gremio) recently reached to the top category footbal could have a chance of becoming champion :D

But I also believe that Palmeiras has a great chance of becoming champions this year, they were and continue to have a spectacular performance, but will they be able to maintain this pace in the most difficult championship in the world?

And I also believe that Internacional has a great chance of taking the title this year... it finished second last year and has good reinforcements for this season, in addition to having a very solid defense.

Here's my prediction for 2023:

1 - Palmeiras
2 - Fluminense
3 - Atlético MG
4 - Corinthians
5 - Grêmio
6 - Bragantino
7 - Flamengo
8 - Internacional
9 - Fortaleza
10 - Bahia
11 - São Paulo
12 - Atlético PR
13 - Vasco
14 - Cruzeiro
15 - Botafogo
16 - Santos
17 - Coritiba
18 - América MG
19 - Goiás
20 - Cuiabá

Red: Demoted

Guys, it's extremely hard to do a prediction in Brasileirão, I can say the favorite in my opinion is Palmeiras, but as soon as I made the list I thought: Ohh, it's impossible to this team to end in such low position, and I made this list 3 times hehehe

The Brazilian championship is incredible, it is very competitive, as we saw in a commentary some time ago, I can't remember by whom, that the Brazilian championship is the most difficult in the world.

Almost any order you draw the 20 teams, it is possible to believe that it could be the final result.

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Hey, I invite you guys to my thread about Libertadores of America, there's a lot of brazilian teams and they are favorite ones: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5447531.msg62032544#msg62032544

The Brazilian league has started the 2023 season. I had the opportunity to watch 2-3 matches and realized that the stadiums were mostly full. Especially in the Corinthians-Cruzeiro match, the stadium was packed. It seems to me that the power balance of the teams in this league is close to each other. There are well-established clubs in the league, but there is no club that dominates the league all the time. The once champion Cruzeiro team was in Serie B last year and has been promoted to Serie A again this year. There are teams in Europe that have a very close balance of power compared to leagues. This year Corinthians is my title contender.

I saw live the Flamengo game yesterday night in my local time as there in Brazil was afternoon and I was extremely amazed by Flamengo first goal from Ayrton Lucas with a huge shot on distance.Flamengo did not convince me that much though despite winning 3-0 in the end as they are contender to the title and Gabi Gol was not in the perfect form,his last scored goal as the main goal scorer was in February or March.I choose to watch this game but also Corinthians vs Cruzeiro was a good one and both games offered and over 2.5 goals with high odds,while Corinthians game was made over 2.5 goals in the additional time.Not a lot changed in Brasileirao this time,again the favorites are winning so far their first  game.

At the beginning of the championship the stadiums are usually very crowded, people are anxious to watch the teams debut, and speaking of Corinthians, it is the second largest crowd in the country hehehe.


According to IFFHS (International Federation of Football History and Statistics), brazilian national championship is strongest league in the world
Here: https://iffhs.com/posts/2483

The teams are strong and competitive, the level is balanced among most of the teams. Hardly any team can have many points of advantage.


I hope this really happens  :D :D :D


Flamengo has hired Argentinean coach Sampaoli, and it may be that the team will improve with time, at least 5 matches to adjust the team.
I watched the Corinthians match, even though they won, I think the team needs to improve a lot, especially without Renato Augusto who was missed a lot, but I'm optimistic.

I'm looking forward to tomorrow's match at Maracanã between Fluminense and Atlético-PR.
Both became champions in the state championships, in addition to achieving excellent results in other competitions.

Look at Fluminense... they beat Flamengo in the Carioca championship, in the Copa do Brasil they beat Paisandu by 3-0, they also beat América-MG by the same result in the first round of Brasileirão, and now they won "The Strongest " from Bolivia in the Copa Libertadores.

Atlético isn't that good, but it's also in a very good stage, having won the state championship undefeated, it's also doing very well in Copa do Brasil and Libertadores, it''s a very strong team.

My bet?? Victory for Fluminense by 1 goal advantage.

These are the odds of today's matches

https://i.ibb.co/bRxcWYY/bras.jpg (https://ibb.co/gFGkjQQ)
Source (https://duelbits.com/sportsbook/soccer)

Fluminense has a 60% chance of winning, 24% chance of a draw, and only a 16% chance of victory for Athlético PR

To me, there's 2 good bets to do today, a multiple in Fluminense and Sao Paulo's victory, paying 2.83 odds, or betting in Bragantino victory, paying 3.05, even playing in Cuiaba's home, I think Bragantino is better and can win this match.
The match between Gremio and Cruzeiro I can't pick a favorite, both teams are back in serie A, and it could be a very good game to watch.

This topic is pretty quiet, so let's move it talking about my heart team...

It's been a while since the international played (last Sunday), but did you see PEPE's great goal? It is his thousandth for the team in this championship.
https://www.youtube.com/embed/dpaPSatfF9k


Even saving players to play in the Conmebol Libertadores championship, Internacional played well and beat Goiás by 1x0, guaranteeing its placement among the top 4 on the leaderboard.

Next Sunday (the 7th) Internacional will face São Paulo at Morumbi and I will bet on Colorado's third straight victory.

So, it's you that is fan of Internacional hahaha, finally the mistery is solved, I thought it was Lucasgabd  :D :D :D: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5447531.msg62195856#msg62195856

Inter is doing well with 2 wins and 1 draw, while Corinthians (my team) is horrible, at 17th place with 3 points
We fans are expecting some reaction after the new coach Luxemburgo, he's already doing some changes on the team, and finally the old players will lose some space to younger players  ;D

I checked the match Sao Paulo vs Inter and the odds to bet on Inter is pretty good: 3.75, if you're confident enough you can gain some money
And a curiosity, if you check all the odds of next round (I use duelbits), you'll see that the worst odd if 1.70, it's clear how the brasileiro championship is tough and competitive, I wish more people here on the forum would watch the championship and follow along to see how exciting it is, even more if you bet  :D

tomorrow we only have one game

Cruzeiro - Santos

this game seems to be well balanced, the cruise had more time to recover its players and also had more time for its players to have more rest, the cruise comes to this game with a sequence of 2 consecutive victories in the league, and a good performance at the beginning of the league is a particularity and that Cruzeiro only conceded 2 goals in the last 4 games, this shows that they have a good defense, while their opponent Santos has only 1 victory in the last 3 league games, in the last games Santos has had a lot of difficulty scoring a goal, just see that they only managed to score more than 1 goal in their last game in which they benefited from a penalty

In my opinion, Cruzeiro is much better in terms of performance in the last games and benefiting from having more rest time combined with the fact that they will play at home, I see Cruzeiro winning this game against Santos, who in the last games have had difficulties. in scoring more than 1 goal, it is true that in their last game Santos scored 3 goals, but conceded 2 goals and Cruzeiro has a good defensive record in these last 4 games, they only conceded 2 goals in 4 games. the odds in case the cruise wins are also very good, and it's a pity that I won't place a bet because I'm in my rest time to place bets

And you got it right again, Cruzeiro won 2-1.
But not only that, Santos's team seems to be entering a crisis with problems on and off the field.

This is how the classification has been so far
https://www.talkimg.com/images/2023/05/10/bra7564666def11ee96.png

And today we have several games

Inter vs Athletico PR
Santos vs Bahia (Santos odds are 2.38, playing at home I think it's a good odd)
Bragantino vs América
Cuiabá vs Atlético MG (Atlético victory is paying 2.32, even playg outside, it's a great odd too)
Flamengo vs Goias
Cruzeiro vs Fluminense
Palmeiras vs Grêmio

I'll watch Palmeiras vs Grêmio, but Cruzeiro vs Fluminense will be a great match too.

What website did you get that table from?
I'm thinking of doing something for the OP, and I wanted to see if this site can do what I want.  ;)

Usually I use google to show the table, HERE (https://www.google.com/search?q=brasileiro&rlz=1C1FCXM_pt-PTBR991BR991&oq=brasilei&aqs=chrome.0.35i39i650j46i131i433i512j69i61l2j69i60j69i65l3.1054j1j7&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8#sie=lg;/g/11jspy1hvm;2;/m/0fnk7q;st;fp;1;;;)

But there are more good services that I use too:
https://www.uol.com.br/esporte/futebol/campeonatos/brasileirao/
https://ge.globo.com/futebol/brasileirao-serie-a/
https://www.lance.com.br/tabela/brasileirao

Are you planning to use the API to get the table?

Cool @joker_josue,
Would it be possible to make an image that dynamically updates with the leaderboard and upload it to your hosting service?

[urlhttps://www.cbf.com.br/futebol-brasileiro/competicoes/campeonato-brasileiro-serie-a/2023]Here[/url] it's possible to obtain the official data of the games directly from the CBF (entity that manages this championship).

I found too this API service (https://www.api-football.com/sports#).. its free if you make up to 100 requests/day, unfortunately I didn't find any other because most of them are paid, but maybe you can extract this information from CBF website that I mentioned above.

I think @TryNinja could do help too ::)

Give me at least a few hours and I'll do it.

No! I was planning to develop an Excel file, with a BBCode table that updates automatically, and then I just had to post it in the thread.
How I did for the Portuguese league (updates have been made throughout the thread): https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5410570.0

The image idea isn't bad either, and it looks like TryNinja is already thinking about it. But, by chance in this case I find the table more interesting.

Maybe the image for the OP and then the table to post throughout the thread. Let's see the two options and then choose.

Really interesting game tonight at 12.30 AM European time between Botafogo which has 0 lost games and 4 wins in 4 games against a Corinthians that has started the Serie A of this year not so well and I think Botafogo should be able to win this game and most likely will be my main bet for today.The odd is quite high for me at 2.05 but most likely should be so because even the bookies are not clear as to the performance of each team as only 4 games have been played so far.

Flamengo got back to winning ways by winning the game of yesterday 2-0 and I think they are a really strong team that have been passing a very bad moment in the start of this season,for me they have players who can be easily title contenders this year.

Project is WIP, but I got it working. What do you think?

https://img.ninjastic.space/page/tabela-brasileirao-2023


(Image is always up to date - cached for 5 minutes)

I hope you really bet on Botafogo because you won some easy money hahaha
Unfortunately Corinthians is in a crisis and still hasn't got it right, just like Flamengo
I'm not even betting on my own team (Corinthians), so don't trust in victory at least until the new coach gets the team in track again.

Botafogo and Fluminense are surprising in this beginning of the championship, I didn't imagine that the two teams from Rio de Janeiro would be so good.



Ninja, at least for me, the image is not showing:

https://www.talkimg.com/images/2023/05/12/issue41c65ee2f597cfb4.png
Obs - I uploaded the screenshot of the image on Talkimg ok?

Congrats on the project, it was cool!
I think you can expand the cache, the games take 90 minutes and several days of the week there are no games. Updating every 90 minutes or once a day I think will be enough.




For a moment I had the idea that this error was from an image loaded in TalkImg.  :o But then I realized that it wasn't. :P

It appears to me normally, it must have been some loading error.

well, yesterday's games had some results that left me surprised, but my biggest surprise is in the hand performance of flamengo, in the last 5 games flamengo only managed to win in just 2 games and with that now they occupy the 12th position, clearly the flamengo they are not fighting to be champions this season, I don't know what the hell Flamengo's management thinks, since Jorge Jesus left they have been putting strange coaches and they were aimless like before Jorge Jesus arrived at Flamengo, unfortunately at the beginning of the season they show that it's worse than last season

Botafogo is surprising me, in 5 games they managed to win 5, they are already in a sequence of 5 consecutive victories, that's why I see that they may have some chance of fighting to be champions, Palmeiras are also strong candidates to be champions champions again, they have been performing well, and it's even incredible that they became champions last season and this season they continue to play well, Flamengo should follow this example, but unfortunately, it seems to me that Flamengo's problem is at the top, it's the managers who make strange decisions

Now it's working for me hahaha, now I can see the image correctly
Keep us updated about the project, I'll ask you to allow me / teach me how to do, because I want to use in my own thread of Libertadores da America.
Now I update manually the table after each round, and this service will save a lot of work


I agree with the time of 90 minutes, this way it should use less server resources, and 90 minutes is enough for 1 soccer match, once a day I think is not enough


It is a surprise to everyone how Flamengo's team has dropped in performance
And the team hasn't changed much since last season, which was very good, practically only changing the coach, but it made more difference than anyone thought
Coach Vitor Pereira swapped a work in progress at Corinthians, where he was getting good results and evolving, for Flamengo thinking he was going to win many titles, but everyone regrets this change

If it is possible for you, I recommend watching Fluminense's matches. It is very good the way they are playing, besides getting good results, the team is playing VERY well and deserves attention this year

I think it's too early to say something concrete yet. In my opinion currently results aren't likely to remain stable along the competition. It's really odd to see Botafogo on the top position, winning all the matches, as it is odd as well to see Flamengo beneath, losing more than winning.

The important here is to notice the consistency of each club. Botafogo is an example of team which sometimes show a lot of gas on its performance for a while, but isn't able to keep the rhythm during the whole championship, being overcome later. I say that because Botafogo is my team and that is what I've been observing about them since a long ago...

Here's the updated table after 6 rounds:

https://i.ibb.co/W3vchR4/bra.png (https://ibb.co/yRF89xc)

It's strange for me too to see Botafogo at first place, Fluminese and Cruzeiro surprised me as well
I agree with you about Botafogo, and after you said that, Botafogo finally lost a match  :D

I believe that the team cannot keep up the pace, and will soon lose the first position to Palmeiras that is the favorite team to win the title.
One of the reasons I think so is because Botafogo is also playing the Copa do Brasil and Copa Sulamericana, so they will probably have to spare some players in some matches.

My disappointments so far are Corinthians and Gremio, who I thought were much better and would be in a top 6 so far, but are playing VERY badly.

The next games will be on the 20th, next Saturday.
In the middle of the week there will be the Copa do Brasil games.

My team Corinthians will play against Atlético MG on Wednesday the 17th
The odds are like this:
Atletico MG 1.63
Draw 3.45
Corinthians 5.40

Pretty hard to bet on my own team this time  :(

This start of the season has been very interesting, Botafogo is really surprising and is still at the top, they lost in their last game against Goias in a game that looked like Batofogo would win easily, Botafogo even had the luck to score the first goal thanks to a penalty that they benefited from, but even with the advantage of the goal and also having the advantage that in the last games they had not lost while goias came into this game with a sequence of 3 consecutive defeats, it was expected that botafogo would win the game, but goias surprised by scoring the equalizer in the first half, then in the second half goal scored the second goal and won the game

I think that with this negative result it could be a sign that Botafogo might not be a candidate, probably Botafogo is still at the top luckily, as it's still the beginning of the league so it's normal for any team to be at the top, we have to see in the next games if Botafogo will be able to stay at least in the top 3, while Palmeiras tied, in 6 games Palmeiras has not lost in any game yet, they and Fortaleza are the only two teams that have not had a defeat, without a doubt that Palmeiras is the main candidate for the title, I believe that in the next games Palmeiras will occupy the first position and will start to distance itself from the other teams

Botafogo's greatness so far is undeniable, but something that is clear is the "blow" he took in that last game.
I think that after so many wins, losing the first game is always more painful than ifthey had lost a game earlier and now followed it up with a few more wins.

Of course, there aren't team in the world that wins every game it plays, but the first defeat can be something that greatly affects the emotions of Botafogo players and maybe their excellent performance regresses after this first defeat.

Anyway, there are still many games ahead... Botafogo has my respect, but I still dont believe in him as a favorite to lift this cup.

I share the same opinion as you guys about Botafogo not being able to stay at top for a long time, soon or later Palmeiras will get there

Check the odds of the 7th round:

https://www.talkimg.com/images/2023/05/20/brasila4e0fe3b46eb6596.png
Source (https://duelbits.com/sportsbook/home/soccer)

In my opinion, there are good odds, like:
Sao Paulo 1.82
Palmeiras 1.88

There are great risk reward too in these:
Athletico PR 3.75
Fluminense 2.42
Fortaleza 2.80

Botafogo vs Fluminese will be the most excting match to watch followed by Palmeiras vs Santos

I don't want to detract from the importance of these matches, but Grêmio x Internacional should also be a very popular game, after all its a game that makes all of Rio Grande de Sul estade (at least) stop everything to watch.

This is a game that will define many things for both teams, because if Internacional wins, coach Mano Menezes will gain a few more days in charge of the Colorado team, while in Grêmio the climate of peace and tranquility can become quite turbulent. But, if Interncional loses then probably Menezes will be cut and Grêmio can in fact say that the crisis is over for now.

My bet, unfortunately, is against the team of my heart, as Internacional is in a very bad phase and historically it hasn't managed to win the last matches it played against Grêmio.

Sorry hahaha, you're right, Inter vs Gremio is always a tough match and interesting to watch, no matter which are the spots of both teams in the table
I mentioned these two matches because I am from SP so Palmeiras and Santos is a classic, and the Bota vs Flu match was a dispute for first place in the championship.

And as the first matches of the round have already happened, I confess that I had surprises
1 - Botafogo beat Fluminense, I didn't expect that. Fluminense seems to be a better team, but yesterday they made a lot of mistakes and lost
2 - Palmeiras couldn't get out of the draw with Santos
3 - The only prediction I got right was Sao Paulo that beat Vasco very well

You team Inter is better than mine (Corinthians) haha, don't complain yet, at least Inter have a good coach capable of work better to put Inter in a better place
The match of Inter vs Gremio I think it's very possible to end in a draw

Well, participating in this discussion!  ;D
I confess that the games you mentioned are interesting, mainly Gremio x Internacional (aka GRE-NAL  :P ;D)

Guys, I don't know if you know, but today we will have the Corinthians vs Flamengo game and the match will be at Maracana!
I believe... there are great chances for Flamengo to win, but I'm curious to know how Corinthians will perform today

Welcome again gagux!

And the GreNal match ended with a great victory of Grêmio
Check the beautiful goal of Suarez, it is already in the exact moment of the goal: https://youtu.be/vxTKxrrqlVw?t=44

Despite the goal and the good match, I thought Suarez would have scored more goals by now and would be a great candidate for top scorer
He only has 2 goals, while Botafogo's Tiquinho Soares already has 6 goals.

And again, in the middle of the week there will be no matches of campeonato Brasileiro.
There will be Libertadores and Sulamericana matches

This is the table so far:
https://www.talkimg.com/images/2023/05/23/actuala60fc2b875e19941.png

I'm really worried about Corinthians, it's in demoted zone right now and the team is not showing signals of progress even with the new coach.
I already lost some money with a hope of a reaction, but it's not working... :(

See if you like the table like this:

POS	Team	PLD	W	D	L	GF	GA	GD	PTS
1	https://www.talkimg.com/images/2023/05/23/botafogo8d186192120e2217.png Botafogo	7	6	0	1	14	6	8	18
2	https://www.talkimg.com/images/2023/05/23/palmeiras8c70b57ee192b9c7.png Palmeiras	7	4	3	0	16	6	10	15
3	https://www.talkimg.com/images/2023/05/23/fluminenseea2bb03634cdc5d5.png Fluminense	7	4	1	2	12	6	6	13
4	https://www.talkimg.com/images/2023/05/23/atletico-mg45ac9f3e358d00b9.png Atlético Mineiro	7	4	1	2	11	6	5	13
5	https://www.talkimg.com/images/2023/05/23/cruzeiro730d035f5ff98252.png Cruzeiro	7	4	0	3	11	6	5	12
6	https://www.talkimg.com/images/2023/05/23/flamengo9e2831bb828b709c.png Flamengo	7	4	0	3	13	9	4	12
7	https://www.talkimg.com/images/2023/05/23/athletico853e9b3e9ed893df.png Athletico Paranaense	7	4	0	3	10	9	1	12
8	https://www.talkimg.com/images/2023/05/23/sao-paulo4b0b2d00fbecddca.png São Paulo	7	3	3	1	12	6	6	12
9	https://www.talkimg.com/images/2023/05/23/santose9c0744e3da50a87.png Santos	7	3	2	2	8	5	3	11
10	https://www.talkimg.com/images/2023/05/23/gremio38c52376c71aeda5.png Grêmio	7	3	2	2	10	10	0	11
11	https://www.talkimg.com/images/2023/05/23/fortaleza47d2c3936d8d8a1d.png Fortaleza EC	7	2	4	1	10	6	4	10
12	https://www.talkimg.com/images/2023/05/23/red-bull-bragantino7a68ef12ba4e2b03.png Red Bull Bragantino	7	2	4	1	11	11	0	10
13	https://www.talkimg.com/images/2023/05/23/bahiaf7c9f9304e6a65c7.png Bahia	7	2	1	4	9	12	-3	7
14	https://www.talkimg.com/images/2023/05/23/cuiaba2b961e9d3e2adafb.png Cuiabá	7	2	1	4	6	12	-6	7
15	https://www.talkimg.com/images/2023/05/23/internacional47e47c8719ba002c.png Internacional	7	2	1	4	5	11	-6	7
16	https://www.talkimg.com/images/2023/05/23/goiasfd2b82d7ff01dddd.png Goiás	7	2	1	4	6	13	-7	7
17	https://www.talkimg.com/images/2023/05/23/vascob8be7bd737baffa4.png Vasco da Gama	7	1	3	3	8	11	-3	6
18	https://www.talkimg.com/images/2023/05/23/corinthiansc7aa986e4b064013.png Corinthians	7	1	2	4	6	12	-6	5
19	https://www.talkimg.com/images/2023/05/23/america-mgf65564568ac3de67.png América Mineiro	7	1	1	5	7	18	-11	4
20	https://www.talkimg.com/images/2023/05/23/coritiba4b03e8b81ea42b02.png Coritiba	7	0	2	5	6	16	-10	2

___
POS - League Position, PLD - Games Played, PTS - Points Earned
W - Games Won, L - Games Lost, D - Games Drawn
GD - Goal Difference, GF - Goal For, GA - Goal Against
Source: https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/brazilian-league/table

I absolutely like it,seeing Botafogo at the top of the standings is a nice feeling,I don't remember when it was the last time they were leading the Serie A,I have seen some of their games when playing at home and they have the team strength more than individual quality like Flamengo has for example.It is still early and Palmeiras is still the huge favorite without a lost game yet despite them having three draws,this shows tenacity and a lot of stamina and these are the characteristics which a winning team usually have.

Personally I am a fan of Flamengo and I am happy for them,they won against Corinthians in this last game played at home,1-0 narrow result but very sweet 3 points.I am loving so far how the Serie A in Brazil is unfolding this time,mark my words,there is a ton of money to be made by betting in this league.

This looks great. What if I make a script to automatically post a table like this, on this topic, once every X days? If so, how often should it be posted? e.g at the end of every day where games happened?

;D

At the end of each game day. You can go to the rigor of being at the end of each game, but then you had to be aligned with each game schedule. But, I think it's enough at the end of each day, where there are games.


EDIT: This table is also assembled semi-automatically. I just have to open an excel file, click the button for the data to update, and then copy/paste it here. It should take about 1-2 minutes.  8)

Don't worry, we are still at the beginning of the championship, until the end of the year several things can happen.
I have no doubt that Corinthians will recover in the future  :)


I liked this table, I confess that this type of aesthetics pleased me a lot.
joker, I would like to share a suggestion, can you insert a column with the results of the last games of each team? For example, victory, defeat and draw.

 https://img.freepik.com/premium-vector/set-flat-buttons-green-check-marks-red-crosses-vector-illustration_574175-525.jpg?w=900
    source: freepik (https://www.freepik.com/premium-vector/set-flat-buttons-green-check-marks-red-crosses-vector-illustration_25481878.htm#from_view=detail_alsolike#position=4)


What an interesting idea TryNinja.
I believe it would also be feasible to implement in other topics/sports, such as NBA, WNBA, UEFA Champions League, La Liga, Bundesliga and other championships/sports.
I imagine that to elaborate this is not something very complicated, but if you need some help, I would be happy to help.

It's a great table Joker, similar to the one you used to post in the Portuguese championship thread, very well done


Don't say that my friend, my Corinthians is in a bad phase  :D
I'm not having much luck betting on Corinthians, so I've started to place only small bets on my team, to not lose too much
If you also place some bets, please share them with us. I'm trying to post some good guesses here, but I confess that I'm still assimilating each team and trying to predict better
Botafogo for example I didn't believe they would start so well, and I didn't predict Flamengo and Corinthians would starts so bad  :D


The matches usually take place on Saturdays and Sundays, and there will also be Wednesday matches
I don't know in this case what would be the ideal frequency for posting

Better days are coming for Corinthians.... in fact, May was complicated for "Timão" but now in June he may do better here, with a sequence of games on national soil that can help to improve his classification in the Brazilian Championship.
Tomorrow he faces América-MG in Belo Horizonte, my bet is certainly on a victory for Corinthians... don't let me down :P
But getting away from the subject of the topic... the next problem is the Brazilian Cup, Corinthinas even qualified for the quarterfinals, but comes from three defeats, will it advance?
On the 10th June he also faces Cuiabá, I think he wins.

As bad as your Corinthians are, so is my Internacional with just 2 more points, so... we can cry together or keep cheering.

I prefer not to give up!!!

I hope so hahaha, and after 2 victories (Fluminense - Brasileirao, and Atlético MG - Brazilian Cup) I finally see some spark of improvement in Corinthians.
It seems that coach Vanderlei Luxemburgo is trying very hard to find the ideal formation for Corinthians.
The classification in the Brazilian Cup seemed very unlikely, but they managed to reverse a 0-2 result and won on penalties, this type of result usually helps a lot when the team is in crisis, to improve its confidence for the next matches

Unfortunately, your team was disqualified from the Brazil Cup, but in the Libertadores they are much better than Corinthians, even leading the group

Now talking only about the Brazilian championship again.
In a little while the 9th round starts, we will have these games to follow:

https://www.talkimg.com/images/2023/06/03/wzc2H.png

We will have 2 great classics, difficult to predict:
Cruzeiro vs Atlético MG
Flamengo vs Vasco
In these 2 matches I recommend not betting anything

I found interesting the odds of Corinthians 3.0, Fluminense 1.83 and Botafogo 3.45
You can have good betting opportunities on these 3 teams.
I think I will go for Corinthians to make a sequence of 3 bets with wins  :D

Coritiba - Santos

this is a game between two teams with bad results in the last games, Santos in the last 5 games managed to get 2 wins, 2 draws and 1 loss, currently occupies the number 12 position and scored only 9 goals and conceded 8 goals, they have a bad attack, but has good defense, while his opponent Coritiba in the last 5 games failed to win any, had 2 draws and 3 defeats and only managed to score 8 goals but conceded 20 goals, has a bad attack and a defense that is a big disaster, I see Santos getting a point in this game, I predict a draw

Atlético-MG - RB Bragantino

Atlético, which is having an excellent campaign so far in the last 5 games, managed to have 5 wins and 1 draw, being that it occupies the number 3 position and scored 13 goals and conceded only 7 goals, not in a very good attack but has good defense, while that their opponent has 2 wins, 2 draws, 1 loss in the last 5 games, they are in position number 11 with 14 goals scored and 13 goals conceded. my guess is that Atlético will win this game

Corinthians - Cuiabá

Cuiabá comes to this game with positive results in the last 3 games, although they had some bad moments before these last 3 games because they had 2 consecutive defeats, but after 2 wins and 1 draw it shows that the team recovered from their bad moment and will want to show that in this game against a weak opponent, currently Cuiabá occupies the number 14 position, scored 8 goals and conceded 13 goals, while its opponent in the last 5 games won only 1 game, had 3 defeats and 1 draw and lost in its last game and comes to this game unmotivated, I see Cuiabá winning this game

Championship of Brazil Seria A is an unpopular competitive league in the world of football. It is a league that portrays little place for relenting efforts, and it is constantly complicated; if a club is unable to catch up with the competitive race, the team withdraws. Corinthians are my favorite club; despite having a low league point total, they still have a chance to avoid relegation. The coach and the players did everything they could to establish a winning streak, but things have yet to turn around for the team. Despite having several stars in the club, they are struggling, but everything will work out in the end for the team.

I confess that it has been a long time since I have made any sports bets.

We will have some interesting games in this round of Brasileirao!
What are your bets guys?



Great analyzes, @Slow death
But I don't know, I believe that Corinthians will win this game.
In the last games of Cuiaba in the Brazilian championship, they managed to win matches with teams that are of the same level as them.
The only expressive victory lately that Cuiaba obtained in the Brasileirao was against Cruzeiro.

I checked on a Brazilian betting site, and so far Corinthians have a 57% victory, 26% draw and 17% of Cuiabá winning the game.

Well, what I said is not 100% assertive, football is like a box of chocolates, you'll never know which one you'll get  ::) :)

I only disagree with your last prediction hahaha, it's my team Corinthians  :D
But to be honest, I think Corinthians will win because will play at home, and after the defeat in Libertadores, they need to win, otherwise the club will enter in relegation zone and things can get worse quickly.


I'm prepared to lose more money with Corinthians bets hahaha

As Slow death said, Atlético MG is a good bet, paying 1.73 in case of victory

There's a good match to bet too, Botafogo vs Fortaleza
Botafogo will play at home, it's the 1st place, and the odds of a victory is 2.14, pretty good in my opinion.

What you said is valid.
In this round of the Brasileirao, we will have several games that will be interesting and difficult to bet on, because the teams, apparently are on the same level

This is why Brasileirão is consider the most difficulty championship in the world hahaha


This is the current table:
https://www.talkimg.com/images/2023/06/16/H2JqT.png

The championship is taking a pause of 10 days because of the official FIFA dates.
It is great for the players to rest (those who will not play for the national team), and for the clubs to recover their injured players, or do a better job in this time without matches
My team Corinthians is one of the teams that needs to improve and they are taking advantage of these days without official matches

More than a quarter of the championship has already passed, 10 rounds, and it is possible to get a good idea of who is stronger
My long-term bet since the beginning of the championship is that Palmeiras will be champion again, and I think it is a matter of 6 or 7 matches to stay ahead of Botafogo.
The only thing that can take a little longer is if Palmeiras saves players to play in the Libertadores

Botafogo is still a good surprise to me, positively.

And you guys, what do you think so far? Did you manage to win any bets in the championship?
I'm in a bad phase because of Corinthians, I lost several bets already

Cuiaba despite not being placed as favorites in this game and even having been placed with only a 17% chance of winning, they were very close to winning the game, they were the first to score in the 55th minute and only conceded a goal in the 81st minute, which clearly indicates that they were close to winning the game, if Cuiaba had resisted another 12 minutes, had had a good defense in the last 12 minutes then they would have won that game, unfortunately due to the fatigue in the defense and this because of the pressure that the adversario exercises Cuiaba conceded and suffered a goal, the game ended with a draw.

this clearly shows that these probability numbers on the field mean nothing, Cuiaba only had a 17% chance of winning the game, but on the field they showed that they had more than a 50% chance of winning the game until the 84th minute of the match. game


the game ended in a draw, Corinthians has always been a great team, this season they are not doing well, in the last 5 games they only won in 1 game and they are in position number 16, it is safe to say that they are not fighting for the title this season Also, I wonder what season the Corinthians club management will organize to fight for the title, the way things are currently going I wouldn't be surprised that they are fighting not to be relegated

In fact, Brasileirão football continues to be a "box of surprises" because in the last championship Corinthians finished fourth in the championship table. This year, its fighting to get out of the last positions.

Of course, I'm aware that Corinthians had a very big reformulation in its squad, it was expected because 11 players were at the end of their contract, but even so, the Brasileirão surprises us every year.

About the table, it's okay that we are still in the tenth round, the championship has just started, but the table is usually pre-defined by the results that occur until the middle of the championship. After that, few positions change significantly because most clubs have already faced each other and it was possible to measure the capacity of each one.

I don't bet much more in Corthinas this year.

I apologize for not bringing the table sooner, but here's the current leaderboard:

POS	Team	PLD	W	D	L	GF	GA	GD	PTS
1	https://www.talkimg.com/images/2023/05/23/botafogo8d186192120e2217.png Botafogo	10	8	0	2	18	7	11	24
2	https://www.talkimg.com/images/2023/05/23/palmeiras8c70b57ee192b9c7.png Palmeiras	10	6	4	0	22	8	14	22
3	https://www.talkimg.com/images/2023/05/23/flamengo9e2831bb828b709c.png Flamengo	10	6	1	3	21	11	10	19
4	https://www.talkimg.com/images/2023/05/23/atletico-mg45ac9f3e358d00b9.png Atlético Mineiro	10	5	3	2	14	8	6	18
5	https://www.talkimg.com/images/2023/05/23/fluminenseea2bb03634cdc5d5.png Fluminense	10	5	2	3	16	11	5	17
6	https://www.talkimg.com/images/2023/05/23/gremio38c52376c71aeda5.png Grêmio	10	5	2	3	14	15	-1	17
7	https://www.talkimg.com/images/2023/05/23/athletico853e9b3e9ed893df.png Athletico Paranaense	10	5	1	4	14	13	1	16
8	https://www.talkimg.com/images/2023/05/23/sao-paulo4b0b2d00fbecddca.png São Paulo	10	4	3	3	15	11	4	15
9	https://www.talkimg.com/images/2023/05/23/cruzeiro730d035f5ff98252.png Cruzeiro	10	4	2	4	14	10	4	14
10	https://www.talkimg.com/images/2023/05/23/internacional47e47c8719ba002c.png Internacional	10	4	2	4	10	13	-3	14
11	https://www.talkimg.com/images/2023/05/23/fortaleza47d2c3936d8d8a1d.png Fortaleza EC	10	3	5	2	12	8	4	14
12	https://www.talkimg.com/images/2023/05/23/red-bull-bragantino7a68ef12ba4e2b03.png Red Bull Bragantino	10	3	5	2	15	14	1	14
13	https://www.talkimg.com/images/2023/05/23/santose9c0744e3da50a87.png Santos	10	3	4	3	9	8	1	13
14	https://www.talkimg.com/images/2023/05/23/cuiaba2b961e9d3e2adafb.png Cuiabá	10	3	3	4	9	14	-5	12
15	https://www.talkimg.com/images/2023/05/23/bahiaf7c9f9304e6a65c7.png Bahia	10	2	3	5	11	16	-5	9
16	https://www.talkimg.com/images/2023/05/23/corinthiansc7aa986e4b064013.png Corinthians	10	2	3	5	9	15	-6	9
17	https://www.talkimg.com/images/2023/05/23/goiasfd2b82d7ff01dddd.png Goiás	10	2	2	6	9	18	-9	8
18	https://www.talkimg.com/images/2023/05/23/america-mgf65564568ac3de67.png América Mineiro	10	2	2	6	11	22	-11	8
19	https://www.talkimg.com/images/2023/05/23/vascob8be7bd737baffa4.png Vasco da Gama	10	1	3	6	10	19	-9	6
20	https://www.talkimg.com/images/2023/05/23/coritiba4b03e8b81ea42b02.png Coritiba	10	0	4	6	8	20	-12	4

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POS - League Position, PLD - Games Played, PTS - Points Earned
W - Games Won, L - Games Lost, D - Games Drawn
GD - Goal Difference, GF - Goal For, GA - Goal Against
Source: https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/brazilian-league/table

Just a reminder, since the 12th of May the OP of this thread has an image of the leaderboard which is updated automatically ;)

I believe that in this resumption of the Brasileirão games, now in their 11th round, the most anticipated game should be the classic between Santos and Corinthians.

Obviously my bet will be on Santos, because I still don't believe that Corinthians can win this match... I'm sorry @rdluffy, but I'm betting "a lot" of money on Santos ;D

Had not noticed. Thank you for drawing attention to this detail. The result is always updated.


Regarding the current classification, I learned something in the Brazilian championship, a team that apparently seems to be doing poorly, from one moment to the next, improves and rises in the classification.

What I find interesting is that Palmeiras, despite being second, is the only team that has not yet lost games.

the games of this round have something very interesting, which is the fact that all games involving the top 3 teams have odds of @2.00 and up, something quite incredible, it seems that the bookmakers are not very convinced that the top 3 teams top manage to beat their opponents, in short, my bets will be focused on the games in which the top 3 teams will play, Palmeiras SP, which currently occupies the second position in the table, will play against Bahia, this is a very important game for the palm trees that need win if you want to occupy the number 1 position early, of course it will depend on Botafogo losing in their game against Cuiaba, which is not an easy opponent to deal with

and talking about Botafogo who will have to play against Cuiaba, Botafogo will come to this game under pressure, a defeat in this game could make them stay in the second position, and that they would probably not return to occupy the first position in the table, for this reason I see Botafogo making a lot of effort to win this game, I expect a victory or a draw in favor of Botafogo, and lastly the game of Flamengo against Bragantino, surprisingly Flamengo has improved a lot in the last few games, and is having a very good time performance, his big test will be in this game against Bragantino, despite being a very difficult game I see Flamengo winning this game, a victory in this game and it will be something very important if Flamengo's goals are to win the Brazilian

Hehe, you said that yesterday, but after some hours Palmeiras lost their first match against Bahia ( 0 x 1 )  :D
Please, keep saying that so Palmeiras can loose all remaining matches  8)

Finally Corinthians won a match against Santos 2 x 0 and it looks like the pause was good for the team, I don't want to precipitate myself, but the team played well and I hope this time it really improves, otherwise soon the fans will start giving the team problems, just like Santos yesterday.



I think it's better to stick with your team Inter that is doing better than Santos and Corinthians together hahaha
Obs - I'm tired of losing money in Corinthians hehe, but soon or later the team needs to win some matches and I can recover my loss  :D

I'm sorry for your loss, I didn't place any bets yesterday because after the pause I didn't know what to expect, but the match ended in a horrible way, Santos fans were dissatisfied with the team's result and threw bombs inside the pitch, so the game ended a little early
Santos will be punished with 6 games without fans, 4 of them in Santos city and 2 away from home.
The fans' attitude is regrettable.

I do not have detailed information about the Brazilian Serie A League. But from now on I will try to follow this league. Of course I know teams like Flamengo, Sao Paulo and Santos. But I don't watch Brazilian Serie A League matches.

Tonight, Fluminanse will play at home with Bahia. Former Galatasaray football player Felipe Melo plays in Fluminanse. He is a very popular football player among Galatasaray fans. And he is still sending messages of support to Galatasaray. He is still a Galatasaray fan and a real Galatasaray fan. We love Felipe Melo. That's why we love Fluminanse too. :D

When I look at the statistics, I see that Fluminanse have never been defeated in home games. In my opinion, they are the favorites in this match.

It will be nice for you to follow the Brazilian championship with us, I think you might like it, since it is a very competitive championship
As we have already said, it is considered the most competitive championship in the world
I would easily say that there are about 10 teams that can be considered candidates for the title hahaha

If you are going to place bets, which I think you will, ask for some help here, or watch a lot of matches first because it is not easy to get the bets right

Felipe Melo is 39 years old and still playing, and a starter for Fluminense, it's a very advanced age, but he is in shape
I also believe in a Fluminense victory today, and the simple bet on Fluminense victory has 1.56 odds.

Palmeiras vs Botafogo match is going to start with both teams strong enough. However, the top of the points table is Botafogo and second placed Palmeiras. But today's match is most likely to be won by Palmeiras, they are a strong enough team. Most of the people think that Palmeiras will win today's match and have more bets on them. Botafogo are at the first position of the points table but they are in better form than Palmeiras which is why they have the highest winning percentage. It's hard to say which team will win today's match but betting sites have odds Palmeiras @1.45 draw- @4.33 and Botafogo @6.50. Palmeiras is likely to win today's match if it is observed accordingly.
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In Brazil Serie A there is tons of money to be made as I honestly don't understand the way bookmakers give odds to certain team,yesterday I won a considerable amount as I bet on Atletico Paranaense against Corinthians and despite Corinthians being a strong team this season they are not where they should be so the odd was near 2 at 1.98 for Atletico PR so I got ahead and did bet on them which resulted in a winner.

I thought that betting on Palmeiras would be a good choice as they are playing against their direct rival this year so far Botafogo,but so far Botafogo is in advantage while we are near the second half.If they manage to win the game then this would be a really bad blow to their title fight.

It was a great odd for Botafogo, and Palmeiras lost its second match in the championship, first was Bahia and now Botafogo, it was a surprise to me.
Now Palmeiras, who was the favorite for the title, is 8 points behind the leader Botafogo.


You made a great bet on Athletico PR, my team Corinthians has only made me lose bets, one after another.
Maybe it's time to stop betting on my team and focus on other teams and find better opportunities.

And as I said above in the previous answer, it was a surprise that Palmeiras lose the game, who bet on Botafogo got a good profit

There is a lot of money to be made in the Brazilian championship,I agree, no doubt about it, but this year has been difficult hehehe, at least for me

tomorrow we will have 3 games, I'm thinking of betting on the following games:

flamengo - fortaleza

this will be a very difficult game for Flamengo because fortalez is showing a good performance, in the last 5 games for forltaleza they had 3 wins, 1 loss, 1 draw, coming from 2 consecutive wins, which makes the team come very motivated to win this game against Flamengo, while Flamengo, who has the advantage of playing at home, needs this victory to not let Botafogo, which is at the top of the table, be further away in terms of points, so I see Flamengo coming out with victory in this game

fluminense - sao paulo

Fluminense comes to this game with a good performance in the last 5 games, and in the last 5 games they only had one defeat, they come from a sequence of 4 games without losing, while São Paulo comes to this game with mixed results , in the last 5 games they had 3 defeats and only managed 2 victories, so I see the Fluminense winning this game. I'm thinking of putting Fluminense in my parlay

Bahia - Gremio

grêmio has been a surprising team at the beginning of the season, they are currently occupying the second position, with a good performance in the last 5 games, grêmio had 4 wins and only 1 defeat, coming from a sequence of 2 victories, while their opponent bahia, comes to this game with mixed results in the last 5 games, 2 defeats, 2 draws and 1 victory, and in their last game they lost. I see bahia coming out with victory in this game, that's why I also intend to put bahia in my parlay

Yes, that is an interesting observation!
I have no doubt that football is a box of candy, you don't know which one you're going to pick.

No... not necessarily!
In fact, those betting numbers are for people to base themselves on and have a sense of the possibilities that those games may have.
I have no doubt that sometimes unforeseen circumstances occur, because  a small/weak team can beat an excellent team
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No... not necessarily!
In fact, those betting numbers are for people to base themselves on and have a sense of the possibilities that those games may have.
I have no doubt that sometimes unforeseen circumstances occur, because  a small/weak team can beat an excellent team
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That is why it is so exciting to bet on soccer, even matches that are possibly supposed to be lopsided, may turn out differently than expected and the odds. I believe it is the most difficult sport to predict results.


I also think that Flamengo will win this match, mainly because they play at home. Fortaleza's team is very good, only 2 points behind Flamengo, but the home advantage will be important in this match.

About São Paulo x Fluminense, I can't think of a good bet
Fluminense may be in a better moment in the championship, but it's only a little difference, and São Paulo plays at home so it balances things out a lot.

About the bet on Bahia, the odds are good, I checked here and it's 2.38 for a Bahia victory.


I have not closed any bet for this round, but I found a good opportunity, I think I'll go with this one:
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Palmeiras team needs to win, is in very good shape, and Athletico PR changed coach recently. I believe Palmeiras can get a win under these conditions, and the odds are good.

Brazilian Serie A leader Botafogo will play Vasco De Gama at home tomorrow. When I look at the statistics, I see a great team. Botafogo have won their last 3 games. They are 7 points ahead of Gremio. They have conceded only 1 goal in their last 6 matches. On the other hand, Vasco De Gama got a win after a long break last week. This victory has definitely been a morale booster for them. But I don't think they have a chance against Botafogo. Because there is a very obvious difference in power between them. I think Botafogo will win this match and Vasco De Gama will not score in this match.

It was just us commenting that the unforeseen happened lol

Corinthians 0 x 1 Bragantino
Santos 0 x 3 Cuiabá
Palmeiras 2 x 2 Athletico-PR

In my opinion and analysis, Corinthians and Santos would hardly lose this game, but as I said earlier, the unforeseen can happen lol

I believe that every championship start (including the Brasileirao), the best teams lose to the weak team, but throughout the championship, the excellent teams show maturity and consistency, and that's why they usually win the championship.

Corinthians and Santos are playing VERY, very badly
As a fan and a bettor, I have already lost several bets on Corinthians, and Santos fans must also be in the same situation

Both teams didn't look like they would be that bad at the beginning of the championship, and now with 13 rounds to go, both teams are in danger of entering the relegation zone

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Palmeiras that I thought would be in first place, is showing a little inconsistent in the Brazilian, yesterday I thought they would beat Athletico PR, but had a player red carded, an injured player and Athletico PR got a very good draw, even playing at home

Possibly I will start betting against my own team, if it wins it's ok, if it loses at least I get some extra money

I believe that "all" the beginning of the championship these teams behave in this way (or something similar).
During the year they improve and climb positions in the championship.

With that draw, Palmeiras yesterday was considered a defeat, they were winning with 2 goals and they literally let Atletico tie the game and the player Gustavo Garcia was ejected from the game with a red card.

I have my doubts gagux, it's 38 matches that each team will play, and it's already been 13, it's practically 1/3 so far and both teams should have more points by now.

In my opinion, Corinthians and Vasco are the ones that have surprised me most negatively so far.
I remember I made a list before the championship started, of the positions I thought each team would finish in. I imagined that Santos would be in the 16th position, so I thought they would have a terrible championship.
Bahia also surprised me negatively.

The biggest good surprises so far are really Botafogo and Gremio.
Botafogo I didn't imagine, and Gremio I thought would be very dependent on Suarez, but that's not what has been happening, he is injured and even so the team has played very well and is in second place.

Botafogo managed to open a good advantage over second place, 7 points, is already quite a lot, and the most important detail, Botafogo has not lost any match playing at home and not even drew, only won.
It is a good opportunity for betting, playing at home the team is undefeated

And finally, Botafogo's next game is against Gremio, 1st and 2nd place playing, it will be great to watch and bet, look at the odds:

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Botafogo already has a victory in this dispute... I'm talking about the sale of tickets for Botafogo fans.
The game will take place at the Arena's Grêmio, and they "decided" that would only sell tickets to fans of the rival team on the same day that the game will take place (on Sunday) :o
But, in the face of pressure, Grêmio gave in and released ticket sales to Botafogo fans today, three days before the game 8)

Talking about the game... my bets will be more favorable to Grêmio, even though it's a rival of my favorite team (Internacional) and having a lower campaign than Botafogo.
I believe that Grêmio has chances to draw and even get a victory in this match that will play at home.

There are some beautiful matches in the Brazilian Serie A league this week. But I would like to focus on the match of Felipo Melo's team Fluminense. Tomorrow Fluminense will host Internacional at home. Both teams have the same point in the league. When I look at the statistics, I see that Fluminense have seen a lot of cards in their last matches. And I see that they have had some unstable results in the last matches. On the other hand, Internacional have not lost their last 6 games. They finished this series with 4 wins and 2 draws. There is no doubt that they have caught a good statistic in the last few weeks. I will choose the under 2.5 goal bet in this match. Because the strength of the two teams is equal. And Fluminense have not been doing well in recent weeks. But they will play this match at their home.

I don't have many arguments against betting on Gremio, because I think the odds are very equal for each team, and a draw would be a fair result (remembering that Botafogo hasn't had a draw so far in the championship, very curious).
According to google, Gremio has 44% chance of victory, while Botafogo has 28%, but I don't agree, I think in this case it is almost 33% for each result

This match I'll just watch, better not bet, or if I bet, maybe a goals over 2.5 is a good bet, paying 1.95


In this match I think Fluminese wins against Inter (sorry alegotardo  :D-).
Both teams have the same number of points, and both have had an uneven championship so far, but playing at home can help Fluminense.
The goals under 2.5 are with odds of 1.73, so good luck. Several of Fluminense's last matches ended with less than 2.5 goals, so there is a good chance it could happen again.

today we have a lot of games, at this moment in this writing, santos is beating goias, but there are still 20 minutes left for the game to end, although santos has more possession of the ball, goias is not giving up the fight, they still believe they can draw the game, that's because at the 61st minute the santos player received a red card and with that now santos are with only 10 players, this is causing santos to lose a lot of focus on attack and stay on defense so that they hold the result , it's much better for Santos to win even playing on the defensive than to play well but end up with a draw, and the most unbelievable thing is that I left a little and when I came back to finish this post of mine the game was tied, that is the red card that the Santos player received was decisive in changing the result of the game

It's a great pity for Santos who were winning by 2 - 0 and having to see the game ending in a draw, in a game in which they had all the conditions to end with a victory, Santos' coach should have drawn attention to his players the moment the penalty kicked against santos, it was a moment for the coach to tell the players to stay calm and avoid physical contact that could harm the team because the team was winning, so they just had to defend themselves and stay calm and in control of the ball, these two errors almost cost Santos a draw, thanks to a penalty in the last minutes of the game Santos won the game, just as I finished my post they scored a goal

Congratulations, you have won the bet  :)


It was my good guess about the Botafogo game hehehe



It was a very unpredictable match and full of goals, I don't think anyone imagined so much happening in the match. In the end it was 4 x 3 for Santos
The match had 36 fouls, 2 red cards, 8 yellow cards and 7 goals  :o
Remembering that Santos is with the new coach Paulo Turra, and may be that improves, after all Santos was almost in the relegation zone.

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Botafogo has now 10 points ahead of the 2nd place, it's incredible how the team is perfoming, with 5 victories in last 5 matches.

I also realized! I'm surprised with Botafogo's performance, in fact, they are playing very well! Let's see if he can maintain this excellent performance during the championship.

By the way, guys, what is your opinion of the games that we will have in this round of the Brazilian?
Botafogo vs Bragantino (it will be an interesting game, both teams are performing similarly, but I believe Botafogo will win)

I am happy for Botafogo,we need a different team to win the league and based on their performance so far,they have even won against strong teams I think that should be no problem for them to keep this form until the end of the season.

I was always curious what RJ meant after a football team in Brazilian Serie A and found out it stands for Rio de Janeiro which I also found out has a huge number of teams in Brazil.I think that Botafogo should have no problem winning against Bragantino as Bragantino has been much more less consistent than Botafogo.

I'm starting to believe that Botafogo can be Brazilian champions, since more than 1/3 of the championship has passed. It's an excellent campaign, only 2 defeats in 14 games.
Consistency is the key to winning the championship, and Botafogo is maintaining regularity.


Botafogo is not my team (it's Corinthians), but I agree, it's time to another team win the championship.
And you're right, RJ is for Rio de Janeiro, like SP is for São Paulo or MG for Minas Gerais.
We use that to know what team is, there's more than one Botafogo, for example there's Botafogo SP, Botafogo PB etc. America is another team, there's America MG or America RJ.
It is the acronym we use for the states of Brazil.

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About the next Botafogo's match against Bragantino, I don't know the odds yet, Bragantino are doing very well in the league, they are in 6th place, and have also only lost 2 matches, but Botafogo will play at home, and so far in the championship, they have not lost a single game at home. So far playing at Botafogo's stadium is a sure win. If the odds are at least 1.50 or more, it should be worth the bet

tomorrow we will have interesting games

Botafogo - Bragantino

despite Botafogo playing at home and also having the advantage of being at the top of the table and also in their last 5 games they came out victorious, even with all these indications their opponent is something to be feared, that's because in their last 5 games , they didn't lose in any game, so in this game they managed to leave with a draw at least, and one more interesting thing is that Bragantino didn't concede a goal in their last 3 games, since they beat Flamengo by 4 - 0 they didn't They conceded a goal and Botafogo also didn't concede a goal in the last 5 games. in my opinion i see botafogo coming out with at least a draw in this game


flamengo - fluminense

well, this is a game in which flamengo needs to win so as not to let botafogo get much further away than it already is, but the problem is that in the last 5 games flamengo had 3 wins, 1 loss and 1 draw, with that coming to this game with 1 draw against an opponent who is not doing well this season, and their opponent is Fluminense who, despite not being a team that had a very good performance in the last 5 games, because they had 2 wins, 2 draws and 1 loss, they comes to this game with a victory against an opponent that was doing well. I don't know if this would show some recovery on the part of the Fluminense, in any case it will not be an easy game for Flamengo

Thank you. I'm trying to follow the Brazilian League. For now, I'm focusing on Fluminense's matches because of Felipe Melo. I hope to get to know the league better soon. :D

Fluminense will play against Flamengo tomorrow at home. They beat Internacional last week and approached the top of the league. There is no doubt that they will want to achieve stability by winning this match as well. On the other hand, Flamengo drew against Palmeiras last week. They have 26 points in the league and they are in second place.

Looking at the statistics, Fluminense has won 5 of the 7 home games and drawn 2 of them. However, Flamengo are also among the best teams in the league. This match may end in a draw. But I will not bet on this game.

I also believe in Botafogo's win against Bragantino, not easy, but until now Botafogo is unbeatle playing at home
About Flamengo vs Fluminense, pretty hard to guess the result, it's a kind of match I didn't bet because no matter what positions both are, it's always a classic and any result is possible.


Like I said above, Fla x Flu is a classic match in Rio de Janeiro, and in this case both teams are doing a good campaign, I'll not bet too because it's hard to predict, it's a match to only watch hehe
But if I had to pick a result I would bet on Fluminense winning.

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I think I'll do this one:
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2.22 in Botafogo win I think it's a good one  ;D

Fluminense will kick off the match again on Monday the 17th against Flamengo.
If I look at the statistics in the analysis that I made, the two of them have almost equal playing strength, so it's a little difficult to really choose who has the greatest chance of winning.
For the Brazilian Serie A standings, Flamengo itself is superior because it is in second place, while Fluminense is in fourth place, but the two are only 2 points apart.

Just a quick reminder that today has an important game of the Copa do Brasil
Corinthians vs America MG, it's the second leg of quarter-finals

The odds are like this:
Corinthians 1.62
Draw 3.50
America 5.40

Time to lose some money with my Corinthians again haha (just kidding, I hope Corinthians can win 2-0)
I already placed my bet  :D

The match will start in 40 minutes

Anybody know much about André (Fluminense).

Liverpool are linked with him today as a replacement for Fabinho. The only info I can get is that he’s a defensive midfielder and very aggressive which is never a bad thing.

You can see a great video of his skills here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oqIQkMnyHSU
It's only 8 minutes of video, but you can get a good idea of how André plays.
Some consider him one of the best midfielders currently in Brazil, and he is certainly one of the strong points of Fluminense, which is in 4th place in the Brasileiro and qualified for the round of 16 of Libertadores
If Fluminense sell the player, he will be greatly missed by the team

From what I'm seeing in the news, Fluminense will try to hold the player at least until the end of the year to count on the player in all ongoing competitions
And there are reports that 7 European teams have already show some interest on him
Fulham was trying to sign the player, but now that Liverpool has entered the dispute, the value should increase and surely they should reach an agreement. Remembering that André is probably the most expensive player that Fluminense has in the squad today.

after the victory of botafogo

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in 4 days we will have more games and I have already started doing my analyzes for the next games, I saw some games that interested me, I am talking about Flamengo's game against America, the odds for this game are at @ 1.37 in case Flamengo wins game, so I'm wondering if it would be feasible to wait for the game to start and after a few minutes if the odd goes up to @1.50 I place my bet or if it would be better for me to make a multi bet with Flamengo to win, then I could add the Botafogo who will play against Santos, but the problem with that is that the two games are on different days, which would not allow me to collect another very important piece of data before placing a bet.

Botafogo's game against Santos has an odd of @2.00 in case Botafogo wins the game, so betting only on this game would be my best choice than putting money on the Flamengo game which has a very low odd, I'll think a lot if it's worth just betting on Flamengo, but in the Botafogo game it's something I'll bet on, but first I'm doing analysis and following the news about the team

Congratulations Slow death, the odds of Botafogo win was really good. playing at home with 2.05  :D
I expected 1.70 maximum, but 2.05 was awesome

Interesting to note that you quoted 1.37 odds for Flamengo. At DuelBits, right now it is quoted at 1.52
Maybe it was after the America x Colo Colo 5-1 win

America's team is good, and I am very surprised that they are last one in the championship, so I think it is a good bet to wait for the game to start and then place the bet on Flamengo.

An important detail about America, they played very well in the Copa do Brasil and lost on penalties to Corinthians. In the Sudamericana Cup, they qualified by winning Colo Colo. So the analysis I make is that the team is not able to play 3 competitions at the same time, but now that it has left the Copa do Brasil, the performance should improve and should leave the last position in some matches

I didn't pay much attention to duelbits, but I'll look into it from now on because I also use them to place my bets, it's funny that sometimes I forget that I have money in duelbits, maybe because I can't withdraw it because it's a low amount  :D

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Santos - Botafogo

this is a game in which botafogo will play with a new coach, so the bookmakers are giving high odds in case botafogo wins the game, but looking at the performance of Santos in the last 5 games, they had 4 defeats and only 1 victory, being that they arrive in this game with a defeat, and on the other side we have botafogo that has been doing very well this season, being that in the last 5 they have won in all games and suffered few goals, so despite playing with a new coach I decided to bet on Botafogo to win this game, it's a risk I'm taking but in my opinion it's worth it given that it has good odds


I didn't bet on other games because I see them being unstable and with low odds so it wouldn't be worth taking that risk at least in my opinion, but I'm following the results of the games, 1 half and the game in Bahia are still in a goalless draw, the same happens with the game in Cuba, I did well not to have bet on those games

I don't know if you bet on Flamengo x America because of the low odds, but you saw that I said that America is a very good team, and does not deserve to be in last place. Flamengo did not manage to win the match, it ended in a draw
Soon America should get out of the last place


I think Botafogo can win. And it really is a great odd for Botafogo to win, 2.32 is worth betting
I think that will be my bet for today
Obviously anything can happen in soccer, but Santos team is really bad at the moment

I did bet on Botafogo tonight as they can win exactly because of Santos really bad form.It takes time to recover from such awful performance and normally you will not do it against the top performer of the league.Botafogo on the other hand is in great form and I think they have to continue this form if they want to win the league this year.

In the other games I think Bragantino should win against one of my favorites team here as with Internacional I have won a lot of money when I used to gamble in my neighbor lotto club as Bragantino is in better shape.The same can be said about Cruzeiro.

Fluminense will play Coritiba away this week. Coritiba have managed to collect 7 points from their last 3 games in the league. They have 11 points and are 18th in the league. They had a really bad period until the last weeks. On the other hand, Fluminense drew with Flamengo last week. I think they are getting inconsistent results. But they are 7th in the league with 25 points, even though they have one game less. If they win this match, they can suddenly move up to 3rd place. It's hard to predict the result of this match. But I think it will be under 2,5 goals again. Fluminense are very consistent in this regard. :D

Sorry for your loss, nobody believed in a draw, but after 15 matches, Botafogo drew their match against Santos. Incredible how the two teams are very far from each other in the table, but Santos was still the first team to draw with Botafogo.
First one (Botafogo) and 14th place (Santos)  ::)


Congratulations to bet on under 2,5 goals, if I were to bet on this match, it would be on Fluminense
Many matches in the Brazilian championship are extremely difficult to predict, these two macthes that I commented on in this post were two examples in which logic was not confirmed

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I'm happy because yesterday Corinthians beat São Paulo 2-1 for the Copa do Brasil
The next match would be on August 16 and is worth a place in the grand final
A shame that I did not make any bets on this game for leaving for the last minute and not getting

Tomorrow we have games, maybe I'm writing some nonsense, but in my opinion Botafoto in their last game in which they tied against Santos didn't seem to me to be the same team, maybe because they had a new coach, but in my opinion the owner of the club Cláudio Caçapa should have been promoted to the interim coach to be head coach, he showed good performance by making the team win and move farther away on the table, but with this new coach it started badly, Botafogo tied in a game in which this even close to losing and it was a game against a fragile team

In this round I won't place any bets, I'd rather watch only the games, especially in Botafogo, I want to see how this new coach will do when playing against Coritiba who, despite being at the bottom of the table, in the last 5 games they only had one defeat, and comes into this game with a sequence of 4 games without losing, and in the last 3 games they have shown to have a good defense, I see a very difficult game for Botafogo and the second test for the new coach, a defeat in this game will be bad for the new coach

It was an atypical match so far for Botafogo, so much so that it was the first draw after 15 rounds.
It may be a matter of adaptation with the new coach, and I think it will soon return to normal since the team is intact, no changes, just continue the work

For the matches of the next round I have to bet on my Corinthians because I started to believe that there is hope for improvement in the championship.
I think the odds are good, 1.90 playing at home

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The matches of Fluminense x Santos, and Botafogo x Coritiba can be good maches to make a multiple, giving 2.64, but if you are afraid to bet on this round, it is better to follow your intuition hehehe

at each round botafogo has increased the points advantage in the table, now they have a 12 point advantage and when I look at the performance of the team that is in the second and third position, I am more convinced that this advantage of botafogo can still increase a lot every round. I will start talking about Flamengo, in the last 5 games Flamengo won only 1 game and had 4 draws, and a disappointment for the fans this poor performance by Flamengo, they were playing against São Paulo who is also going through a bad phase, with 5 games and they only won in just 1 game, even so Flamengo did not manage to leave this game with a victory, something very regrettable because they lost 3 points and with that they are leaving Botafogo with 12 points ahead, honestly I very much doubt that Flamengo manage to win the brazilian this season

while Flamengo is wasting points, the same cannot be said about Botafogo who played against Internacional, in a game in which Botafogo managed to score 3 goals and they won the game, funny that in this game Internacional was the first to score a goal against 18 minutes, but Botafogo managed to reverse this result in the second half by scoring 3 goals and winning the game. with this victory, botaogo is 12 points ahead, I think that in this scenario if it continues like this, botafogo can become champion this season, they need to take advantage of this season very well because the other teams are not doing well, so botafogo needs to strive to stay with a big difference in points in relation to all other teams

Fortaleza destroyed Santos, in a game in which Fortaleza scored 4 goals and did not concede a single goal, and an unexpected result, given that Fortaleza had not won for 4 consecutive games, and precisely in the game in which they won they managed to score 4 goals, It is true that his opponent was a weak opponent and that he is not in a good situation either, but I have to congratulate Fortaleza for this victory. grêmio won in their game against Fluminense, in that game grêmio managed to score two goals and conceded a goal, but this victory allowed grêmio to stay in second place

I read (I don't remember now where it was, I'll try to find it) that Botafogo's chances of being champions are already over 80%
Incredible  :o

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Today there's a big match in Brazil, the semi-finals of the Copa do Brasil
São Paulo vs Corinthians
Whoever qualifies will be in the grand final, and the first match was 1-0 to Corinthians, playing at home.

Will anyone be watching? The match starts in 1 hour

the chances are 52% Sao Paulo win, 28% a draw and only 19% Corinthians

Botafogo is unbeatable this season. Who could guess it before the competition started? Botafogo had been showing average or poor performance for a long time already that nobody had any expectations they would smash every other clubs this year. Right now I think Botafogo is already taking advantage of a psychological effect of superiority against other teams. When they play against Botafogo they don't manage to play efficiently, because there is a high pressure when facing the leader. Sometimes they play fine at the beginning of the match, but Botafogo always overcome them after all.

To be honest, nobody believed that Botafogo would do so well in the Brazilian championship. I didn't believe it myself and I didn't see any person saying that too.
When a team is in first place with such an advantage (13 points more than second place) it certainly has an extra factor when other teams play against them, especially since Botafogo have only lost 2 games so far.


I found the news I was looking for, according to this website: HERE (https://www.uol.com.br/esporte/futebol/ultimas-noticias/2023/08/16/botafogo-tem-90-de-chance-de-ser-campeao-vasco-76-de-ser-rebaixado.htm#:~:text=O%20Botafogo%20tem%2090%2C7,o%20Campeonato%20Brasileiro%20deste%20ano.) Botafogo have 90.7% of chances to be the champion  :o
The second with the most chances is Grêmio with only 2.8% followed by Palmeiras with 2.2%  :P

Detail, it's only the half of the championship yet, 19 matches

Today we have a match between Botafogo and Sao Paulo, it won't be an easy game for Botafogo, that's because Santos, who in the last 5 games had mixed results, had 1 win, 2 draws and 2 defeats, and they are 4 games without a win , so in this game Santos, who will be playing at home and with the support of their fans, will make an effort so that they can win this game, but I also suspect that Santos will spare players because in the next game they will play in the South American Cup and Santos knows that they have no chance of being champions of the Brazilian, so the coach of santos could choose not to put some good players in this game looking at the next game of the south american cup, because santos can go far in the south american cup

while botafogo is in a somewhat delicate situation, they are at the top of the table, a victory in this game would make them more distant from their opponents, but also botafogo has a game in the south american cup, which means that the coach of botafogo could choose to play with only a few good players to save all the best players so that he is strong in the next game of the south american cup, that is, botafogo can look for a draw in this game than to keep striving for a victory and have players sold out in the next game of the South American Cup, in any case only the lineup will tell us the posture of Botafogo

Palmeiras has a very difficult game today, a victory in this game and a defeat by Botafogo would put Palmeiras 10 points behind, which up to a certain point we could consider Palmeiras as another candidate for the title, but a defeat in this game is a victory from Botafogo, it would make things very difficult for Palmeiras, having a difference of 16 points with the first place would not be a good thing if Palmeiras wants to be champions again, but their opponent today is strong, in the last 5 games the cuiaba lost only 1 game, and cuiaba has the strength to get a draw in today's game. Tomorrow Flamengo will play against Coritiba, who in the last 5 games have won only 1 game and come into this game with 3 consecutive wins. so I see Flamengo winning this game


despite the difference in points being 13 points, I still think these 80% chances of them being champions are exaggerated, because there are still many games ahead and a lot can happen, if they were 30 points apart then I would agree with these 80%


I am also surprised that they are at the top, I thought that Palmeiras would be champions or Flamengo again, but these two teams are unstable

I know it's hard to believe because there's a lot of possibilities and variables to consider
I'll post another example, look at the chances to be the champion updated:

Botafogo – 90,7%
Grêmio – 2,8%
Palmeiras – 2,2%
Red Bull Bragantino – 1,1%
Fluminense – 0,94%
Flamengo – 0,84%

Source (https://trivela.com.br/brasil/campeonato-brasileiro/botafogo-campeao-brasileiro-aproveitamento/)

Mathematicians from UFMG (Federal University of Minas Gerais) who made this calculation


Me too, I thougt that Palmeiras would be at first place right now, but they are prioritizing the Libertadores, and that's caused them to lose important points in the Brazilian championship.
At least in the Libertadores they're the best team

Flamengo is another explanation, they're really unstable. Sometimes they play very good matches, win difficult games, but in other theoretically easier games, they are losing, and with that they can no longer reach the title in my opinion

the games of this round have already ended, the results of the games involving the candidate teams for the title were results that did not cause surprises. Palmeiras played against Vasco da Gama, in a game in which Palmeiras came as a favorite in my opinion, Palmeiras in the last 5 games only lost 1 time, coming from 2 consecutive victories and needed to win this game because they played in at home and also because they couldn't let Botafogo increase the points difference in the table, while Vasco had 1 loss, 1 draw and 2 wins, they were 2 games without losing, it was a game in which Palmeiras did not manage score more than 1 goal which in my opinion showed that palm trees had difficulties in this game

honestly I'm amazed how palm trees managed to recover and are currently in second place, in their games they have scored 1 or 2 goals and they win, they are not a team that keeps crushing their opponents, they are not winning games with great superiority , they are winning in a more intelligent way, they score few goals and strengthen themselves in defense, this is the type of strategy that can make them champions again if Botafogo makes mistakes, there are still many games ahead so nothing is decided when it comes to deals with who will be the champion of this season

Botafogo played against Bahia, in this game Botafogo had 2 draws and 2 wins, playing at home and against an opponent that in the last 4 games had mixed results or like 2 wins, 1 loss, 1 draw, it would not be a game easy for Botafogo, at least that was what I thought, that in this game Botafogo would win but with some difficulties, but on the field Botafogo crushed their opponent, there were 3 goals scored by Botafogo and their opponent couldn't score a single goal . with this result, botafogo manages to maintain an advantage of 11 points in relation to second place, but this advantage is still not something that gives comfort to botafogo, which with the 2 draws it had in the last 5 games made it lose points, if they want to be champions then need to win all games to have a big difference in points with second place

At the start of the season I thought that Palmeiras would be in first place and that they would be champions, but the team is very focused on the Libertadores da America and this has affected some games in which they have lost important points
In my opinion, if Palmeiras were only playing in the Brazilian championship, they would be very close to Botafogo.

We're now 21 rounds into the championship, there are still 17 rounds to go, with 51 points at stake for each team
Botafogo have an 11 points lead, and mathematically it's possible to catch up, but so far the team has only lost 2 games, I think it's very difficult to take the title away from Botafogo, especially as they've just been eliminated from the Sudamericana, and will focus entirely on the national championship

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And tomorrow will be one of the biggest derbies in Brazilian soccer: Corinthians vs Palmeiras. This is the kind of game that's worth more than three points, and fans take it very seriously
Palmeiras is the favorite of course, but I'm going to bet on Corinthians hehehe
If you can, go and watch it because there's a lot of chance it'll be a great game

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yesterday's games had very surprising results, Botafogo played against Flamengo, without a doubt that it would be a difficult game, Flamengo is an unstable team that came into this game with mixed results in the last games, they had 1 defeat, 2 draws and 1 victory while Botafogo who played at home came into this game with 2 draws and 2 wins, I looked at Botafogo as the favorite, but on the field Botafogo had a lot of bad luck, firstly they scored a goal in their own goal in the 2nd minute of the 1 half, in a game of great importance like this, something like an own goal happening greatly affects the entire game, but Botafogo managed to score the equalizer in the 19th minute and it looked like they were ready to score the second goal and leave the game with victory

but Flamengo scored a goal and thus took the lead and Botafogo had to make up for the loss, something they couldn't do and even after the game ended, the Botafoto player received a red card, something that in my opinion was not smart on the part of the team. Botafogo player, because the game was already ending, it was obvious that they had already lost so there was no reason to risk receiving a red card, now it hurt the team in the next game

Gremio is having a good campaign this season, they played against Cuiba and won, it was a game in which Gremio came as favorites, firstly because they were playing at home and secondly because in the last 4 games they had 2 defeats and 2 victories, with the Their opponent, Cuiaba, was coming off 3 consecutive defeats in this game, so Gremio's mission was very easy. Palmeiras played against Corinthians and couldn't come out of the game with a win, but at least they managed to come away with a draw, even so, they wasted a great chance to stay close to Botafogo in the table.

Derby games are very difficult to predict and the results don't always reflect the teams' situations.
Palmeiras are having a much better campaign than Corinthians, and yet they haven't managed to win at Corinthians' stadium.
Just as Botafogo are much more stable than Flamengo, and still lost the game.
In my opinion, these are the most difficult games to bet on, regardless of the teams' positions in the league.

Guys do you also have the same opinion about derby matches?

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Botafogo are holding firm because Palmeiras have really "wasted" 2 points and the gap is 10 points

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Botafogo are widening their points gap with their rivals in the Brazilian Serie A. Last week they lost to Flamengo but we can see that they are the strongest candidate for the title.

I read in the press today that Fluminense renewed the contract with Felipe Melo. His contract was extended until December 2024. He's 40 years old now. I'm sure he has a lot to pass on to the young players of Fluminense. After he leaves football, I would like to see him among the technical team of Galatasaray. With his ambition and passion for football, he is a character who can provide the motivation that football teams need.

the next games will be very interesting. Flamengo will play against Athletico, although Flamengo is playing at home, this will not be an easy game because Athletico has come from 5 games without losing, and in the last 5 games they had 4 draws and 1 victory, and that comes of 3 consecutive draws, while Flamengo had 2 draws in the last 5 games. With these data, I would be very careful in betting on Flamengo's victory in this game, most of the time when you are facing a scenario like this in which we have a team with 4 draws in the last 5 games, it has a greater chance of winning in the next game as well. have a draw

In my opinion, Flamengo could end up with a draw in this game, so if I were to place a bet on this game, I would choose Flamengo to win or draw if the odds were above 1.50 and it would be worth making that bet. São Paulo will play against Internacional, this will be a game between two teams that have not been doing well in recent games, so in my opinion the result of this game will be very unpredictable, which is why I will not make any predictions. Gremio will have a complicated game against Bragantinho, because in the last 5 games Bragantinho only lost in 1 game, while Gramio had 2 defeats in the last 5 games. I see a difficult game for Gremio, but I believe they will come out with at least 1 draw

palmeiras will also have a very difficult game against goiais who have not lost in 5 consecutive games, goiais come from 3 consecutive draws while palmeiras had 1 draw in their last game, I won't be surprised if palmeiras comes out of this game with another a tie. Botafogo will also have a difficult game, but I see them coming out with victory. it will be interesting to see how the top teams fare in this round

And to my surprise (I think everyone's) Botafogo lost yesterday to Atlético MG. That's two defeats in a row, which hasn't happened to the team until now
The lead, which was 10 points, has now dropped to 7 points. Botafogo wasted 6 points

They were games against tough opponents of course, Flamengo and Atlético MG are very strong, and the next game will be against Corinthians, so it's good to keep an eye on them because if they lose again, the lead could drop to just 4 points.

My team, Corinthians, will play against Gremio tomorrow, who are in 3rd, but even so, because Corinthians are playing at home, the odds are favorable, with 2.55 odds for a win, 3.20 for a draw and 3.0 for a Gremio win.
To make it more exciting, I'm going to bet just 4 or 5 dollars on Corinthians because I'm not so convinced that the team can beat Gremio, especially as they'll be using reserve players since they're focused on the semi-final of the Copa Sudamericana

well, it seems to me that what could be a surprise in relation to the winner of the league this season seems to no longer happen, I'm talking about Botafogo where I even thought that they had a good chance of beating the Brazilian, but looking at For Botafogo's last games I see that things will be very different, Botafogo were lucky to stay at the top and that's because they were playing very well with the old coach, but a change of coach was not a good thing, you didn't feel that change in immediate, but now it is becoming very visible that with the current coach Botafogo is in a bad situation and it will be a matter of a few games for Palmeiras to stay at the top of the table and they will not leave the top until they become champions.

well, in the game the team that gets the most points always becomes champion, so it won't be by mere luck that palmeiras will win, they are showing that they are a strong team in defensive terms, just see that palmeiras has 8 consecutive games without conceding a goal. in all competitions, it is an excellent defensive performance, that is, in a game, Palmeira only needs to score 1 goal and this can guarantee victory because they are strong defensively. But we can't say the same thing about Botafogo, which in the last 8 games has conceded at least 1 goal in most games.

So this difference between these two teams, for me it shows that Palmeiras is a much more stable and strong team to beat the Brazilian, it was good to see Botafogo occupy the top for many games, but they won't last much longer in that position, probably within 6 games Palmeiras will be at the top and I don't know if Botafogo can reach second place, even in that they may not be able to do so, because there are still more than 10 games left until the end of the league, leaving room for other teams to finish in the top spot. second position and palmeiras in first position

I still believe that Botafogo will be the champion
BUT...
I agree with you about the coach and with your post in general, Palmeiras is an excellent candidate for the title, they're not in first place because they're focusing on the Libertadores right now
Botafogo played against two very difficult opponents, Flamengo and Atlético MG, so it could be that the team needed one or two defeats to encourage them to improve and get back to winning like before

It seems that the championship is shaping up to be a great contest at the end, it would be very good if the champion was decided only in the last 3 games for example

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Corinthians played an atypical game yesterday, it's been a long time since I've seen a game like that, it was 4x4 against Gremio, 8 goals in one game
And a detail: the 8 goals were scored by 8 different players

Yesterday must have frustrated many bettors

It seems that this season the team that has the most luck will win, Botafogo who played against Corinthians, failed to win, on paper I already considered this game to be a very difficult game for Botafogo and during the game when the Botafogo player, Fernando got a red card, so Botafogo's defeat was already declared, with 67% possession of the ball, Corinthians would score a goal at any minute, something that happened in the 59th minute, then Botafogo just had to pray for the game to end So because at least then they would only concede 1 goal, but Botafogo was unable to reverse the result, with this defeat we have Botafogo with 3 consecutive defeats

another candidate for the title also lost, I'm talking about palmeiras who played against gremio, this was a very difficult game for palmeiras, this is because gremio this season is a team with good performance and can also be champion, this is because with this victory, Gremio has 43 points, 1 point away from Palmeiras and 8 points away from Botafogo, in the last 5 games Gremio only had 1 defeat, if they continue with this good performance and Palmeiras and Botafogo continue as they are with this bad performance so I see the club being champions

There are still many games for the league to finish, I don't see Palmeiras being able to improve much in the remaining games, Palmeiras have managed to stay in their current position because they have a good defense, and that also happens with Botafogo, thanks to their good defense they are at the top, but as they continue to lose games and if the club continues to win games, especially if they win games against Palmeiras itself (they have already won against Palmeiras) and Botafogo, then the club's chances of being champion will be greater.

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Botafogo had three games against very tough teams in a row
The next game against Goias should be easier, then it's against Fluminense who are another very difficult team, but from then on there will be 4 theoretically easier games, and I think Botafogo will get back to winning
I'm glad my Corinthians beat Botafogo, at least they're off the bottom of the table and I've made a small profit.

The championship as a whole is better now, as the gap has dropped to 7 points and with Palmeiras' defeat, Grêmio are now very close to the top, just 1 point behind Palmeiras, like you said, and even better, the next teams on table are very close to each other.

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São Paulo have just won the Copa do Brasil, an unprecedented title for the club, which they won against Flamengo
São Paulo will now prioritize the brasileirão and this could greatly improve the team's position in the league, while Flamengo seem to be entering a crisis again after they fired coach Sampaoli
The championship is going to be even more interesting from now  ;D

Yep, sure!!! It was an unprecedented and extremely important title for São Paulo! I'm glad he achieved this feat  :)

Talking about the Brasileirao, did anyone also bet on this round?
I was impressed with Fluminense's defeat to Cuiaba, by the way, i hope that neither Palmeiras nor Cruzeiro disappoint me in these games that we will have today

Well not very good games to bet on in tonight games in my local time.Palmeiras surely have a really great odd of 3.35 but Bragantino is not in bad form either,they maybe will win this game and put further pressure to Palmeiras although I think Palmeiras has a great opportunity to close the gap to Botafogo which strangely they have won 3 games in a row and that is the biggest surprise of the Brasileirao so far for me.What are they doing losing at home and even away while before such lost games they only had 2 lost games in total,I wonder how will they react to the upcoming game,they need to start winning again.

Yes, what you said is true... Palmeiras may have a slight advantage, but Bragantino has been performing considerably lately.

One variable that I didn't notice and that could be a negative point for Palmeiras in this round of the Brasileirao is that, on 05/10 they will play against Boca Juniors in the Libertadores and I believe that Palmeiras will be able to save some of their players for Thursday game (Palmeiras x Boca Juniors)

Talking about Botafogo, he lost the last 3 games, I confess that he is currently having a bad phase, and that perhaps he can improve in the future...

If you want to see the Brasileirao ranking, I would like to share this website, it has some relevant information about the championship! If you are interested in seeing it, this is the website
Campeonato Brasileiro - Classificação 2023 (https://www.espn.com.br/futebol/classificacao/_/liga/bra.1)

Unfortunately (or fortunately hehe) I was traveling and couldn't place my bets on this round of the Brasileirao
I was quite impressed that Fluminense lost 3x0 to Cuiabá, but the coach spared several starters so that they can play at 100% against Inter in the Libertadores semi-final
But even so, they missed a good chance and 3 points, which would have been enough to take third place. In the future, these points could make all the difference


So far it's 1x0 to Palmeiras, and the team is sparing its starters

I believe you were lucky lol
I confess that some games had results that I wasn't expecting... especially the Palmeiras game, which they were winning 1x0 and during the game Bragantino managed to overcome Palmeiras, winning 2x1

Well, at least I hope that in today's game, Botafogo doesn't disappoint me playing against Goias!  ::)

Another interesting result, Palmeiras lost to Bragantino, at the time I watched the game, Palmeiras were winning
Of course, the team played without its starting players, but it was still a different result. Like Fluminense, these points could make a big difference at the end of the championship. This result was great for Botafogo
Today it's in Botafogo's hands to make 3 points and open a great advantage again, since the two teams that were closest lost important points (Palmeiras and Grêmio)

Do you support Botafogo gagux123?

Yes... I believe in this round of the Brasileirao we had several interesting games with results that I wasn't expecting.

Lately I'm in a bad phase lol
I bet on Palmeiras and I didn't remember that they would play against Boca Juniors tomorrow, even so Palmeiras started the game winning but they lost to Bragantino  :-\ :(

Yes, I only supported Botafogo in the game against Goias, because I bet on Botafogo (even then there was a draw lol)

But I support Sao Paulo.
Sao Paulo has not been performing excellently in the Brasileirao lately, but the most important thing of all is that they managed to win the Copa do Brasil (In my opinion, this title may have been more important than winning the Brasileirao  ::) :P)

And you @rdluffy , how was your bets? did you bet in the past weeks?

Get ready, because Internacional is returning with "full force" to the Brasileirão after the embarrassment it caused in the Liberadores championship :P

The president of Internacional had already made it very clear that the 2023 plan was set up with the Conmebol Libertadores in mind with the dream of reaching the third championship, heavily invested in signing players and changing the coach.
It was also noticeable that as Internacional advanced in the Libertadores competition, the team gave up the Brazilian Championship, falling behind in the league table, but now that should change.

Internacional is in fourteenth place.... that means it's only three positions away from entering the relegation zone to "Serie B". It's the International's obligation to achieve more victories and improve this position to at least qualify for the "Sul-Americana" (South American) Cup.

Can he do it? I think so, after all we are still in the twenty-sixth round.

Ah ok hehehe, I thought you were a Botafogo fan, but it was only because of the bet really

Your São Paulo team will improve in the brasileirao you can be sure of that, because now that they've won the Copa do Brasil, they'll be able to focus only on the this championship, and the team is good, they won't have to spare players like they did during the other competitions.

Regarding Palmeiras' defeat, and your losing bet, it's very important to take into account whether the team will play with all the starters or if they'll spare any players, otherwise you'll end up losing the bet anyway

I have been betting, I have my bankroll to bet only on the Brasileirão, I still haven't made a good profit, only a few bucks, not much for now because my team Corinthians has lost a lot of games, but now it should improve

Post here when you place your bets too, so we can discuss further and possibly find some good bets
It's been a while since I've seen you in this board hehe

I can't believe that Internacional managed to lose to Fluminense in the Libertadores, I imagined that the Libertadores final would be between Palmeiras x Internacional, but that didn't happen
Yes this is true! I believe that not only Internacional will focus on Brasileirao, Sao Paulo and Palmeiras will be other teams as well.

I believe that all the teams will focus on Brasileirao (except Fluminense) who will certainly be aiming to be the Libertadores champions.

Even with the reserve team, Palmeiras managed to open up an advantage during the game against Bragantino, but unfortunately Bragantino scored 2 goals and won the game.
Well, now Palmeiras will focus on the Brasileirao, if they maintain a good performance, I have no doubt that they could be a great candidate to be champion of the Brasileirao.

Let's see what the future will show us!

Look, another São Paulo fan here. I didn't know. Unfortunately, it's been very difficult to be a São Paulo fan. We won the Copa do Brasil, we beat Corinthians in the next game. And this week Corinthians and Palmeiras were eliminated in the semi-finals of the Libertadores and Sudamericana. All this without us needing James. I am very sad.  :P :P :P

And Palmeiras lost another match
After being disqualified from Libertadores, which nobody believed was possible, the team lost another game, this time to Santos, who were 17th in the table. Incredible
Palmeiras felt the defeat in the Libertadores very badly and lost points that will be sorely missed in the Brasileirao, as they have now lost three games in a row  :o

Although they're only 1 point off second place, they're 11 points behind leader Botafogo, who managed to recover their victory in the last round


Haha, São Paulo have achieved a great feat, after all they've never won the Copa do Brasil and now they can play the Brazilian championship more calmly without so much pressure, they've already recovered and are in 10th place.
My team Corinthians is terrible, they almost lost yesterday's game against Flamengo at home
If São Paulo carry on like this, they could make it into the top six and at least try for a place in the Libertadores in 2024

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And this is the current table:

https://www.talkimg.com/images/2023/10/08/RHnnI.png

in this round we had a surprise, at least for me it was a surprise the result of the game palmeiras lost against santos, in a game in which santos came from 2 consecutive victories and while palmeiras came from 2 consecutive defeats, it was obvious that if If we were to base ourselves on the performance of each team's last 2 games, then Santos would have to be seen as the favorite, but as Palmeira is considered a candidate for the title and was playing at home, they were seen as the favorite to win that game, In my opinion, I also looked at them as the favorite, mainly because they were coming from 2 defeats so they wouldn't want to have 3 consecutive defeats, but on the field things were different, they started well by scoring the first goal and with that it even seemed like they they would win the game, I didn't watch the game but I was following it, and to my shock, right after they scored 1 goal, they conceded 1 goal.

in a few minutes the guys conceded an equalizing goal, and as if that wasn't enough, then they conceded the second goal, and the strangest part of it all is that after the game ended and the highlights videos of the game were available, I saw the videos of highlight of the game and I couldn't understand what the hell these guys from Palmeiras were doing on the field, because it was clear how easy it was for them to break through Santos' defense but whenever they did that, they wasted opportunities to score a goal, it seemed like for the Palmeiras, that game would be a street football game, a game without much importance and Santos knew how to take advantage of the opportunities they had very well

The second goal that Santos scored was funny, even now that I write I can't stop laughing every time I remember Santos' second goal. One thing is certain, it is unlikely that Palmeiras will be champions like this. Meanwhile, on the other side, Botafogo, who were also not doing well in the previous rounds, won the game against Fluminense and thus broke the cycle of 4 games without winning. I think Borafogo can be champions, just let things continue as they are

The games in this round had positive results for all 4 top teams, starting with Palmeiras who played against Curitiba. This was a very important game for Palmeiras, which was coming off 4 consecutive defeats, and a defeat in this game would be their 5 consecutive defeat, which would bring shame to the team and management. But luck was on Palmeiras' side because their opponent was not a strong opponent, they had mixed results, despite having achieved 2 victories in the last 4 games, they also had 2 defeats. So it was the perfect chance for Palmeiras to win the game and that's what happened, but even though Palmeiras won, I wasn't convinced that they recovered from their poor attacking performance. With this victory, Palmeiras is in position 4

Flamengo, who played against Vasco da Gama, also managed to win, Flamengo came into this game as favorites, they had no defeat in the last 4 games, while their opponent had mixed results. With this victory Flamengo is in position number 3. They are still very far from first place

Bragantino who played against Fluminense, also managed to win, in this game Bragantino also came as the favorite, and in the last 4 games they had no defeat, while on the other side their opponent came to this game with mixed results, being which had 1 victory, 2 defeats, 1 draw. So I didn't see Fluminense being a big threat to Bragantino, but on the field things were difficult and Bragantino only scored 1 goal. With this victory, Bragantino is in second place

Botafogo couldn't win, they were the ones who played against Athletico, in this game Botafogo had 2 wins, 1 draw and 1 defeat in the last 4 games, while their opponent had 2 wins, 1 draw and 1 defeat. Since they had 2 consecutive games without losing, so this draw is not something that surprises me

Did you get any good results in this round?
Here was one of my best rounds in terms of bets won  8)

Yesterday I was feeling lucky and bet on Corinthians and Cruzeiro wins and a multiple on Fluminense and Athletico PR wins
I managed to win all 3 bets hehe, I was happy with the result and my bankroll increased well, I'm good to next rounds

To be honest, this is one of the most weird season until now, it's not easy to predict the matches, São Paulo lost to Palmeiras 5x0.
Detail: Sao Paulo is the current champion of Copa do Brasil  ???
Hard to explain

I don't know if anyone is betting and following the Brazilian championship (Brasileirão), we are in the last rounds of the championship and apparently it is very competitive and fierce.
Botafogo (1st) and Palmeiras (2nd) both have 59 points, Bragantino (3rd) with 58 points and Gremio (4th) with 56 points.

I'm realizing we're going to have another exciting championship final this year again.

Ranking (Brasileirao) Top 10

• 1° Botafogo (59 points) - 8 games remaining
• 2° Palmeiras  (59 points) - 6 games remaining
• 3° Bragantino (58 points) - 7 games remaining
• 4° Gremio (56 points) - 6 games remaining
• 5° Atlético-MG (53 points) - 6 games remaining
• 6° Flamengo (53 points) - 7 games remaining
• 7° Athletico-PR (49 points) - 6 games remaining
• 8° Fluminense (45 points) - 7 games remaining
• 9° Fortaleza (42 points) - 8 games remaining
• 10° Sao Paulo (42 points) - 7 games remaining

as the results became very unpredictable for me, so I stopped betting on the Brazilian and I'm just going to follow the results, it's strange how Palmeiras recovered, they are 5 games away with consecutive victories and have the same points with Botafogo as despite having 2 games left, there is no guarantee that they will be able to win the 2 games left, in fact the chances of defeat in tomorrow's game are very high, that's why I see Palmeiras becoming champions again, Botafogo was this season's biggest joke. I think that when all Brasileirao games end, they should give a prize to Botafogo, the prize would be for the most clownish team of all time

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CR Vasco da Gama RJ - Botafogo FR RJ


with 3 consecutive games without winning and under pressure on the table, Botafogo comes to this game with a very difficult mission, which is to win, but as they have become a team without any great quality like they had before the coach who left, so it is very likely that they lose in today's game, even if their opponent is a team that is in the relegation zone, the bookmakers are still seeing that same team that is in the relegation zone as favorites in this game. Therefore, a defeat in this game will make Botafogo's difference with the rest of the other teams greater. I hope no one bets on this team to win the league

Botafogo's next game will be against Gremio who is in position number 4, in the last 5 games they have lost in just one game, but they have 4 consecutive victories, so it is almost certain that Botafogo will lose points in this game against Gremio. That's why I see Botafogo having no chance of becoming champions, unless the other top teams lose a lot in the next games, something I highly doubt will happen. Palmeiras, who were going through bad times and were more than 10 points behind Botafogo, today they have the same points, just hoping to get through Botafogo's next defeats so they can stay on top and become champions. I must admit that if Palmeiras are champions, it will be something to laugh a lot about.

Of course I do hahaha,  every round I'm here sharing a bit of my bets
What seemed easy for Botafogo, gradually became difficult and now the competition is very good, there are 4 teams with total conditions to be champions, I believe it will only be defined in the 2 last rounds

Have you been placing bets too?


As I said above, it's incredible how Botafoto had a 10-point lead, but now it's become hard to them to hold
If they win the two games they have left, they'll still be in a good position, with a six-point lead.

Botafogo are still the favorite to becoming champions, as the only really tough teams they will face are Gremio and Bragantino, but who knows?

there are still some ways to make money betting on the Brazilian championship with low odds, high probability events like over 0.5 goals and this kind of bet than pay 10-25% but have really high chances of happening.

a bit of work to do it and keep track of everything but not hard.

as expected:

Vasco da gama 1 - 0 Botafogo

Vasco da Gama, who was seen as the favorite in this game, showed that the bookmakers were very right in placing them as the favorites to win this game, it was a game in which Botafogo focused more on playing, it seemed like they were facing a amateur game while Vasco was taking the game more seriously, meaning that in the first big opportunity they had in the half they didn't waste it and scored the first goal. Afterwards, Vasco continued to play well and they even managed to score the second goal, but it was considered offside.

Afterwards, Vasco continued to put pressure on Botafogo's defense and was once again close to scoring another goal, while Botafogo didn't have any great space to create great dangers for Vasco's defense, it was a game in which Vasco played very well and also It was a game that showed that Botafogo do not have the conditions to be champions, in my opinion the most likely champion will be Palmeira. For me, Palmeiras will be champion. I don't see another team that can be champion. It was a shame for Botafogo fans to see such a sad thing this season.

so are you calling Slow Death for Botafogo from now on? haha
let's see what will happen afterwards
have you called this one before the fact? are you betting on the game results?
just curious here

The worst part is that I actually bet on Botafogo, who had good odds, and lost another bet.
In fact, I lost two bets yesterday because I also believed that Santos could beat Cuiaba
Two losses in a row


Are you betting too Lucasgabd? hahaha  :D
Be careful, the championship is crazy right now  ;D
I didn't think the championship would be so exciting in the end

Edit: look at the top 10

https://www.talkimg.com/images/2023/11/07/tcC4v.png

Not much, lately I was losing a lot lol
The complicated thing is that at the end of the championship everything is very unpredictable, as the teams will do everything they can to become champions or they will do everything they can to get out of the relegation zone.

For example, who would have imagined that Vasco would beat Botofogo? lol
Well, this was an opportunity that Botafogo missed to distance itself from Palmeiras, who are in the second place.

for example, in the next round of the Brasileirão we will have two close and competitive games.

Botafogo x Gremio
Palmeiras x Flamengo

Victory will be extremely important for these teams, and if they draw against each other, the teams in 6th, 7th and 8th place will be able to benefit from this if they win... and the top 4 teams draw

Of course, what I said was just a hypothesis of what could happen and that's why I say again... this championship finals will be exciting :)

Nobody, I even lost a few dollars on that bet haha  :D


I won't be placing any bets on these two matches, I don't have any good guesses as to who will win. Even betting on goals is risky
These matches are only good to watch

Take a look at the odds for this round's games, practically all balanced, no easy bets
The most "easy" bet would be Inter against Fluminense, but I don't think Inter is that much of a favorite, after all Fluminense just won the Libertadores

https://www.talkimg.com/images/2023/11/08/tosDf.png

I'm not but I have a friend who has a friend whose cousin's best friend is betting

he says that he's profitable and that most of the time he manages bank roll well and bet mostly on game winners, double chances (one or another, one or draw), draw no bet and one team to score over 0.5 (1 goal)

what are you betting on more often? the team to win?

 :D :D :D


I'm also making a profit from the Brasileirao, but it's not easy, I've lost several bets with surprise results

I don't usually bet on double chances and goals.
I've only been betting on the winners, and sometimes I place multiple bets
Of course, every now and then I place a different bet on the number of goals, but it's more rare

I see a lot of users placing riskier bets that pay out very well. In the past, I used to place bets on the number of goals, fouls and cards, but I realized that I lost a lot
The simple way has given me better results

interesting my friend's friend cousin shenanigans have been wondering if it's better to focus on high reward/low probability bets or low reward/high probability bets
or a combination of the two
I understand that having a simple system you can follow and stick to is usually the best way
just curious on everyone's thoughts on this one

The match between Botafogo and Gremio had some great highlights. Botafogo finished the first half leading 3-1. Then Luis Suarez came on the scene in the second half and scored a hatrick. I had the chance to watch the 3 goals he scored. He scored some really classy goals and gave Gremio the 3 points. Suarez may not be as athletic as he used to be but his technical skills are still the same. Form goes but technique stays. He has been one of the best examples of this. I am sure he will continue to score beautiful goals after meeting Messi in America.

I don't have an answer for that haha
I'm betting this way because I can get a lot of results right as to who wins. But I'm not good at predicting how many goals there will be in the match, or the other bets
So I see if the match has good odds, if I have a good guess and then I place my bet
There are some people who just do multiples, they get a lot wrong, but when they get it right, it all pays off and they make a profit because the odds are so high

Try placing a few bets, it can be as little as 1 or 2 dollars, it's a lot of fun haha


The Botafogo x Gremio game was incredible, even more so with Suarez doing a hat trick. He's managing to help Grêmio at the right time
Botafogo are in serious danger of losing the championship right now, the team are completely lost right now, looks like Arsenal last season  :D

Hello!
After some time away from this topic, today I would like to share a piece of news that I just read about the probabilities of relegation (loss of a place in the main Brazilian championship due to poor performance) of major Brazilian teams.

The most "relieved" are Internacional with a 1.4% "fall", Cuiabá with 0.35%, Fortaleza with 0.34%, São Paulo and Fluminense with practically zero chances of being relegated.
Those who are not doing so well are Goiás, who now have an almost 85% chance of being relegated after losing to Santos.
Bahia also increased its odds to 49.7% after losing to Cuiabá.

Apart from these, I found that Santos, Corinthians and Cruzeiro also reduced their chances of being relegated to less than 10%.

Well... while some teams dream of a good ranking, others fear the worst rankings in the table.

This year's competition is very tight, with many big teams in or near the relegation zone

In my opinion, the relegated teams will be:
América MG - this is already mathematically confirmed
Coritiba - This one is not mathematically relegated, but the chances are very low, with 26 points they couldn't escape

Goiás - the team has been playing badly, they'll face Grêmio and Atlético MG, they're losing games, and they'll also face Cruzeiro who are direct rivals for the Z4.
Then they face easier games, but they won't be able to overcome them.

Now there's 1 team left to be relegated, it could be Cruzeiro, Vasco or Bahia
I believe that Corinthians and Santos won't have too many problems staying in the same position, with 4 points more than the Z4.

My vote goes to Cruzeiro, I believe their games will be more difficult and they won't be able to stay in the Brazilian A championship

Lately I was analyzing and researching about Brasileirao and I would like to share with you guys something interesting that I found  :)

I found a website from the mathematics and statistics research department from Federal University of Minas Gerais. Well, according to the studies, there are great chances of Palmeiras being champions (again)

Botafogo, Bragantino, Gremio, Flamengo and Atlético-MG also have chances of becoming champions, but with a lower probability.

The chances of each team being champions:

Palmeiras - 46.1%
Botafogo - 28.3%
Bragantino - 15.4%
Gremio - 6.2%
Flamengo - 3.3%
Atlético-MG - 0.81%

For more information: https://www.mat.ufmg.br/futebol/campeao_seriea/ (https://www.mat.ufmg.br/futebol/campeao_seriea/)

This forecast that ufmg makes is very cool, most newspapers use it as a source

It's amazing how the Brazilian championship still surprises us every year, it's considered the most equilibrated championship and we can see why
Before it started, I was betting on Palmeiras winning the title, I even posted my prediction here, but as the championship went on I doubted it and started to be sure that Botafogo would be champions, after all they were undefeated for many rounds, hadn't lost a game and were unbeatable playing in RJ

In my opinion, Palmeiras improved a lot after being eliminated from the Libertadores, after all they could focus totally on the Brazilian championship and now we're seeing the results

Despite everything, I would like Bragantino to be the champions, so that we can have a new champion  :D

What do you think?

Even though I'm not following the Brazilian championship as much this year, this final stretch of the championship is being very exciting.
Looking at the league table, I think Palmeiras will be champions again, despite Botafogo and Bragantino practically only depending on themselves to win (mainly Botofogo).
Has Bragantino ever won the Brasileirão?

POS	Team	PLD	W	D	L	GF	GA	GD	PTS
1	https://www.talkimg.com/images/2023/05/23/palmeiras8c70b57ee192b9c7.png Palmeiras	34	18	8	8	56	30	26	62
2	https://www.talkimg.com/images/2023/05/23/botafogo8d186192120e2217.png Botafogo	33	18	6	9	53	30	23	60
3	https://www.talkimg.com/images/2023/05/23/gremio38c52376c71aeda5.png Grêmio	34	18	5	11	57	50	7	59
4	https://www.talkimg.com/images/2023/05/23/red-bull-bragantino7a68ef12ba4e2b03.png Red Bull Bragantino	33	16	11	6	46	29	17	59
5	https://www.talkimg.com/images/2023/05/23/atletico-mg45ac9f3e358d00b9.png Atlético Mineiro	34	16	9	9	43	27	16	57
6	https://www.talkimg.com/images/2023/05/23/flamengo9e2831bb828b709c.png Flamengo	33	16	9	8	50	37	13	57
7	https://www.talkimg.com/images/2023/05/23/athletico853e9b3e9ed893df.png Athletico Paranaense	34	13	12	9	47	39	8	51
8	https://www.talkimg.com/images/2023/05/23/fluminenseea2bb03634cdc5d5.png Fluminense	33	13	8	12	43	42	1	47
9	https://www.talkimg.com/images/2023/05/23/cuiaba2b961e9d3e2adafb.png Cuiabá	34	13	8	13	36	35	1	47
10	https://www.talkimg.com/images/2023/05/23/sao-paulo4b0b2d00fbecddca.png São Paulo	33	12	10	11	37	35	2	46
11	https://www.talkimg.com/images/2023/05/23/corinthiansc7aa986e4b064013.png Corinthians	34	10	14	10	39	39	0	44
12	https://www.talkimg.com/images/2023/05/23/fortaleza47d2c3936d8d8a1d.png Fortaleza EC	33	12	7	14	36	38	-2	43
13	https://www.talkimg.com/images/2023/05/23/internacional47e47c8719ba002c.png Internacional	34	11	10	13	38	43	-5	43
14	https://www.talkimg.com/images/2023/05/23/santose9c0744e3da50a87.png Santos	34	11	9	14	37	55	-18	42
15	https://www.talkimg.com/images/2023/05/23/vascob8be7bd737baffa4.png Vasco da Gama	33	11	7	15	35	43	-8	40
16	https://www.talkimg.com/images/2023/05/23/cruzeiro730d035f5ff98252.png Cruzeiro	33	10	10	13	30	28	2	40
17	https://www.talkimg.com/images/2023/05/23/bahiaf7c9f9304e6a65c7.png Bahia	34	10	8	16	39	47	-8	38
18	https://www.talkimg.com/images/2023/05/23/goiasfd2b82d7ff01dddd.png Goiás	34	8	11	15	34	49	-15	35
19	https://www.talkimg.com/images/2023/05/23/coritiba4b03e8b81ea42b02.png Coritiba	34	8	5	21	39	67	-28	29
20	https://www.talkimg.com/images/2023/05/23/america-mgf65564568ac3de67.png América Mineiro	34	4	9	21	39	71	-32	21

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POS - League Position, PLD - Games Played, PTS - Points Earned
W - Games Won, L - Games Lost, D - Games Drawn
GD - Goal Difference, GF - Goal For, GA - Goal Against
Source: https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/brazilian-league/table

Bragantino has never won the Brazilian championship, and for many years it didn't even compete in the main Serie A championship
When Red Bull bought the team in 2019, things changed a bit and the money coming into the team improved a lot

Bragantino were a good team, they were 2nd place of Brasileirao in 1991, and were champions of Paulista in the A series in 1990, among other minor titles in the B and C series

But after 2019 it really improved, and today it's a more constant team that can fight on equal terms with any Brazilian team
Interestingly, they come from a small town in the interior of São Paulo, Bragança Paulista, with just over 170,000 inhabitants

That's why I'd like them to be champions, but their chances are only 15.4% against Palmeiras and Botafogo, it's not easy
Keep following the end of the championship with us, it's going to be great joker  ;)

Tonight the odd of Botafogo is really big at over 3 against Fortalezza.I know that Botafogo has been doing really bad at the fact that they lost the leadership in the standings and it is a golden opportunity to win tonight as they would regain their well deserved first place on the standings,most likely the bookies want to scare us by putting such a high odd on them.Personally I bet on them and I don't care if I lose,I will only lose money while if Botafogo loses today or draws they most likely will lose the title or put it at a big risk at least so I am taking this risk.

Good luck swogerino, I confess I didn't place a bet because I didn't see this opportunity, but I'll take the chances, even if Fortaleza already scored

https://www.talkimg.com/images/2023/11/23/FW1kJ.png

I'll do a draw no bet, paying 5.20 hehe
Botafogo REALLY NEED this win, otherwise they will face some serious problems

I bet on Botafogo when the coach was Luís Castro, Botafogo when I was with Luís Castro they had a good defense and a decent attack, I made some money betting on them at that time, but unfortunately for me when coach Luís Castro left I stopped betting For a few games, I watched how the new coach placed the players on the field and what formation he chose, then there was a game in which I said: "it's okay, I'll take the risk of betting on them again". As it was a game against a weak team, I didn't see them having any difficulty winning, that's what I thought. That's why I put more money than I used to in my bets, man I went to sleep because these Brasileirao games always happen at bedtime in my country.

When I wake up and enter the stake, I see that my balance has not increased, at the same time I immediately conclude that I lost my bet, so I went to see what the result of the game was and to my shock the guys had lost the game, I even thought they had tied, but what I was seeing was defeat. so I stopped betting on them and started following the team and to my chagrin the guys started to play badly with the new coach, the team was no longer the same team as when coach Luís Castro was there, see that coach Luís Castro left from Botafogo to go and train Al Nassr, Cristiano Ronaldo's team. In my opinion, Brazilians need to have more quality in their teams, when I watch the games I soon get sleepy because I don't see much quality in the games, especially in the attack of many teams


Betting on Botafogo to win is the same as asking to lose money. in today's game they had a good opportunity to stay in first place again and also get out of the cycle of many consecutive games without winning, on paper their opponent is also in the same situation as them in terms of performance in the last 5 games, but unfortunately the Botafogo disappointed again, they were unable to win, the best they managed was a draw that keeps them in second place, but I highly doubt that these guys will be able to finish above position number 4, I say this because they have already played 5 consecutive games. without winning and good teams like Famengo (only 1 point behind Botafogo), Gremio (only 2 points behind Botafogo) and Bragantino (only 2 points behind Botafogo) are teams with good performance compared to Botafogo and Iran. occupy this position for Botafogo, with only 4 games left to finish the league, I see that of the remaining 4 games, Botafogo would win 2 games at most

At least in the bet I made (as shown in the previous post) I didn't lose money because I bet on Draw no bet, but Botafogo lost valuable points that will make the difference
Now the team doesn't depend on itself to be champions, it will have to hope that Palmeiras loses some game

All the teams have played 34 games, and now it's easier to see the table
Here's what it looks like:

https://www.talkimg.com/images/2023/11/24/F0NZ5.png

Awesome in my opinion, 5 teams will total possibilities to be the champion, only 3 points of difference between them

The Brazilian league is one I don’t watch but the few I see from my betting accounts are always less on goals and the ball play is box to box no creativity in the midfield, more reason why I think this coach left to Saudi is because of the investment the Arabians have done to their league football by investing and getting quality European players and that’s a huge boost to the league.

 This is one cue I think other leagues should take amd watch football become more competitive and much more interesting, no business will thrive without investment; quality investment and football is one business and requires greater attention and greater investment.

Yes, I agree with you too!
Brazilian football is like a box of chocolates. You never know what you're gonna get lol  ;D ::)
Sometimes several teams had a chance of being champions, and throughout the year all that changed.
I was convinced that Botafogo could be the champion of Brasileirao, but they didn't take advantage of their chances and lost several games and after that, Palmeiras took advantage of this and is in first place in the championship today.

Yep, t would be interesting if Bragantino or another small team were the Brasileirao champion, perhaps Cuiaba or Fortaleza would be other interesting candidates!  :D

I don't blame the coach or player who leaves Brazil, even in the middle of a contract. The Arabs are offering a lot of money to strengthen their league, it's very difficult for anyone not to accept it
The money they're paying is probably enough for the coach or player to retire within a few years of his contract


They're two teams that surprised me positively, and both will probably play in the Sudamerican Cup next year, which will help them gain a lot more experience
I also hope that one day these teams can be champions
Fortaleza came very close, they came second in the Sudamericana this year, they almost won the biggest title in their history, but that's the way it is, one day the title happens
They are doing a great championship this year, better than Corinthians, Vasco, Cruzeiro, Santos and other bigger teams

Did anyone also follow this round of Brasileirao?

I had in mind that Palmeiras would beat Fortaleza easily, but in the end, Palmeiras almost lost, but managed to draw in the last minutes.
Flamengo managed to take advantage of Palmeiras' failure, winning the match against America-MG and being tied with Palmeiras in Brasileirao, both with 63 points.

My question is, will Flamengo be able to win the next games, overcome Palmeiras and become Brasileirao champions?

Yes, that's true, I also agree with you
They were weak teams that came from lower leagues, but have been standing out a lot lately. I have no doubt that this performance is bringing a lot of visibility to the teams.

Looking at Flamengo's next games:

Flamengo - Atletico

This will be a very difficult game for Flamengo to win, Atletico has been a team with an excellent performance this season, they have not had any defeat in the last 5 games, and this same season when they played against Palmeiras they won 2 - 0, They didn't concede a goal and scored 2 goals, this same season when they played against Botafogo, they also managed to win and won without conceding a goal, but when they played against Flamengo they lost and conceded 2 goals, but managed to score 1 goal. In other words, this season Atletico only lost to Flamengo when it comes to clashes with the current top teams, if Flamengo manages to beat Atletico again, they will still have more difficult games left to play.

Flamengo - Cuiaba

This will also be another difficult game for Flamengo, their opponent Cuiaba hasn't lost in 4 games, they have a bad defense in which they have already conceded many goals but they can get a draw in the game against Flamengo, that's why in my opinion we have Seeing how Cuiaba will do in the next game against the international, if they lose they could have low morale and if Flamengo wins they will go into this game with more optimism.

Sao Paulo - Flamengo

This in my opinion will be the only less difficult game of the last games of this round, so if Flamengo wins the next 2 games, then in this game Flamengo would be more comfortable because they would face an opponent who probably won't have anything to motivate them to make an effort a lot, for that São Paulo only needs to win in one of the next 2 games to guarantee their stay in the Brasileirao and if that happens, in the last game against Flamengo they won't have any reason to make an effort

Now the case of palmeiras is something very good for them, they will only have 1 game against a strong team and 2 games against weak teams, I clearly see a greater chance of palmeiras becoming champions. Palmeiras is close to losing in the game against Fortaleza because one of the Palmeiras players got a red card in the 59th minute, I think that if that hadn't happened, Palmeiras would have been able to win the game.

I have no doubt that Flamengo will have difficult games in these last rounds of the Brasileirao. Atletico Mineiro, Cuiaba and São Paulo, both are in strategic positions in the championship and therefore, they are looking for some places for the Libertadores and CONMEBOL Sudamericana.

If we analyze Palmeiras, they will have relatively easy games compared to Flamengo, especially against América-MG (last position of the Brasileirao).
I believe in the last game, which will be against Cruzeiro, could be more dangerous, because Cruzeiro is in a delicate position (close to the relegation zone), I have no doubt that they will do everything to win the games.

Well, I believe Palmeiras has a great chance of becoming champion of the Brasileirao again, but they cannot make mistakes, because other teams are extremely close to Palmeiras and will take advantage of this situation and overtake and become the leader of the championship, if Palmeiras lose or draw the next games.

I also agree with both of you. Palmeiras is now the favorite team (again) to win the title, not only because of the number of points, but because the next games are theoretically easier
It doesn't mean it's already won, but I think Palmeiras have a better chance than Flamengo and Botafogo

It may not seem like it, but Botafogo still have a chance, it's incredible, simply incredible how in 5 games the team hasn't won a single game, they've only scored 3 points out of 15
It's hard to believe that a team that started so well has blown its best chance of winning a title in years

The Flamengo vs Atletico MG game tomorrow is going to be exciting, it's that game that's worth six points  :D :D :D

Pretty hard to make good bets in the next rounds

In a few minutes the Flamengo x Atlético-MG game will start
Another game that I'm also looking forward to see is Botafogo x Coritiba.

Botafogo is in third place in the championship, but with a difference of just 1 single point from first place.

If Palmeiras and Flamengo lose or draw and Botafogo wins today, they will become first place in the Brasileirao.

From the little experience I have with betting, it seems that at the end of every championship (or almost every one) it becomes very difficult for you win your bets, because everything is very unpredictable.

Well, let's see what this round of the Brasileirão will show us today  :)

I'm here ready to watch  :D


Yes, it's harder, some teams are nervous, anxious and the results become more difficulty to predict, this is the reason I wont bet in this match, I'll only watch and observe
The odds are totally for Flamengo win, paying 1.74 while Atletico MG win pays 5.20

Palmeiras will almost sure win the match against America (poor America, the last team in the table), but only pays 1.24
Botafogo win is paying 1.75

You were right, Flamengo's chances of winning were greater, but incredible as it may seem, Flamengo lost 3-0 to Atlético-MG  :o
As I mentioned previously, the end of the championship makes the results of the games very unpredictable

It's been approximately 10 minutes since the Palmeiras game started and he has already scored 1 goal against América-MG. I have no doubt that it will be an easy game for Palmeiras.

I'm also watching the Botafogo x Coritiba game, because if Botafogo wins it will be extremely close to Palmeiras in the Brasileirao.

Well, it ended not being a surprise after all, because since before this championship started Palmeiras has been the favorite one to win the next title, due to their awesome previous campaign last year. We are just seeing things going back to the normal which was expected.

It would have been a big surprise if Botafogo had kept its position, winning Brasileirão 2023, against all the initial predictions we had at the beginning of the year.

Palmeiras winning is also a victory of gamblers who go for the favorites, instead of underdogs.

See?
Almost impossible to predict, Flamengo playing at home, needing to win at any cost, lost to Atlético MG and 3x0  :o
I would have lost money on that bet
Lucky for those who believed and got the odds of 5.20


Hehehe, at the start of the championship I made my list and Palmeiras were first. But I really doubted he'd make it when Botafogo started winning every game and Palmeiras focused on the Libertadores
One thought: if Palmeiras had reached the Libertadores final, they probably wouldn't be in first place in the Brazilian league today

Now it is almost 80% guaranteed that Palmeiras is the champion of the Brazilian Championship, something unbelievable, at the beginning of the Brazilian Championship I certainly saw Palmeiras as the favorite to win the Brazilian Championship, but after a few games seeing how Botafogo was doing very well at the point that created a big difference in points in relation to Paleiras and Flamengo, so I started to look at Botafogo as a team that would win the Brasileirao with certain ease, but I doubted that when Botafogo's coach left the team to go and become in the Al - Nassr coach, at the time I saw the news I thought: this will really hurt the team. so days after the coach left Botafogo I decided to test and bet on Botafogo who were playing against a very weak team, I thought they would win with some ease, but I was shocked when I saw that they lost

After that I started to doubt that they would be able to become champions, and for that reason I stopped betting on them, I see that it was a good decision I made because Botafogo started with a sequence of bad results, this showed that they won because they had a good coach and as the good coach left and the club didn't put in another good coach, the team declined a lot. I think that in the next few times the club's management needs to have good planning, something like a plan B in case they lose a good coach. As for Flamengo, honestly, since Jorge Jesus left Flamengo, I don't see Flamengo being a good team and performing well, which is why I don't expect Flamengo to be Brazilian champions anytime soon.

In my opinion, Brazil needs to have more quality in its teams, I don't see it being very competitive, when I watched some games I fell asleep because the game was so tiring, I even made an effort to watch, but it was inevitable that I would sleep and when I woke up , the game had already ended, as these games are held when it's time for people to sleep in my country, so I thought that was the reason for me sleeping during the games, but even when I tried to watch replays of the games at another time, I slept. So the problem wasn't the game schedule, it was the way they played, which didn't capture my attention.

To be exact, the calculated chances of Palmeiras being champions are already 85.9%  :o

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Source (https://www.mat.ufmg.br/futebol/campeao_seriea/)


I know what you mean
For those who support a Brazilian team, it's easier to watch and enjoy the match, but for an outsider, it can give the same impression, it's very different from watching a Real x Barcelona match for example, with many stars playing, with more goals etc.

Brazil is still the country that exports the most players in the world, with many above-average players, after all, most children start playing soccer at a very young age, but every good player goes to Europe and the best ones stay there until almost the end of their career.
Not only that, but soccer in Brazil is very balanced, which leads to a lot of drawn games, a lot of games without as many goal-scoring opportunities or wonderful moves as we see in Europe more often

But don't give up on brazilian soccer, there are great matches to watch and of course memorable ones  ;D ;D ;D

I believe this was clear, in fact Palmeiras had an excellent championship last year and proved this in several games, his performance "slowed down throughout the year", but after all, they managed to restore the first place in this year's Brasileirao ... anyway, now it only depends on Palmeiras to be champion.


Yes, I also avoided betting on this game, I had in mind that the game would end in a draw, maybe 0-0 or even 1-1, but that didn't actually happen.

Another game that I was also surprised by the result was between Botafogo x Coritiba.
It was clear that Botafogo would beat Coritiba.

The game was tight the whole time, with approximately 4 or 3 minutes left to finish the game, Botafogo managed to score 1 goal but soon after (I believe about 2 or 3 minutes later) Coritiba managed to score 1 goal and tied the game.
Coritiba is relegated to Series B and still managed to achieve this incredible draw against Botafogo

This is something surreal and hard to predict lol  :P ;D

What made Palmeiras lose some points was the Libertadores matches, because the team spared several starting players in some games, at least 5 or 6 games in total as far as I remember, so they were important points that they missed out on at that time



I don't think even the Coritiba team thought they could draw with Botafogo, but when times are bad, everything happens in the worst possible way  :P

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Two matches today, and again, pretty hard to predict

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In my opinion Internacional have a better team than Corinthians right now, but playing at home, Corinthians can hold a draw today
About Atletico MG, they still have chances to be the champions, and after a great result against Flamengo, they will do 101% to win this match and I think they will

To add more emotion to this end, Palmeiras could lose the next match and Botafogo, Atlético and Gremio win their matches, so they all be at first place with 66 points, it would be awesome  :o :o :o

This is crazy! lol

Yes, indeed these were difficult games to predict... I was convinced that both games would be draws. mainly São Paulo x Atlético-MG.
Around 4 minutes left to end the game, São Paulo managed to tie the match and after a few minutes Atlético-MG managed to score another goal, thus winning the game! It's something incredible...

I did a quick research when i was writing this post and the odds for the most important games today:

• Flamengo x Cuiaba
74% Flamengo (win)
17% draw
9% Cuiaba (win)

• Palmeiras x Fluminense
71% Palmeiras (win)
18% draw
11% Fluminense (win)

• Botafogo x Cruzeiro
45% Botafogo (win)
29% draw
26% Cruzeiro (win)


Yes, this is true... Atlético-MG did its duty by winning against São Paulo, but if we analyze it, Palmeiras will still be in 1st place if they lose today's game, they have the highest number of victories and also Palmeiras' goal difference is much higher than other teams.

Regarding the odds you posted, Flamengo won, Palmeiras won, but Botafogo once again disappointed, it seems like a curse against the team, it's incredible how it hasn't managed to win any more matches for some time now
Looks like Palmeiras will be the champion again

To lose the championship, Palmeiras need to lose the game, Atlético MG or Flamengo win and make a lot of goals because of the goal difference like you said, it's much higher for Palmeiras

Just a quick tought, if Palmeiras lose 1 x 0, Atlético need to win 8 x 0  :o
Mathematically it is possible for Flamengo and Atlético, but honestly we all know that it's practically impossible for that to happen

8x0 and there's only one game left?
ok so probably Palmeiras will get this one
that's why the books are paying only 0.2% on betting Palmeiras will be the 1st place
time is up

the window of opportunity has closed.

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 ;D ;D ;D

This is something that if a person with super powers had taken a crystal ball and told me that this would happen while I was seeing Botafogo with a big advantage in the table, I honestly wouldn't believe this person with super powers. because it's hard to believe that a team that was at the top of the table for a long time, all it took was for the coach to leave, for another coach to come in and do so much nonsense to the team to the point where the team couldn't win the games, to the point where the team left the top of the table. In a humiliating and shameful way, I have seen many cases of leagues in which a team that remains at the top until one round does not become champion.

but this is the first time I've seen a team manage to become the worst joke of the century, Botafogo players should feel ashamed of being from that team, Botafogo fans should feel ashamed of being fans of that team. the majority shareholder of Botafogo, said that this was a disappointing season, but he said that the team made progress because they moved from series B to series A and more things that he said. I honestly don't understand Brazil, sometimes I think that Brazil is not part of this planet. It's unbelievable how the press doesn't harshly criticize Botafogo, honestly what they did was embarrass the team. It looks like they were bought by the opponent, and it's unbelievable how this team was able to finish like that

Yes hahaha, the difference of goals between them is 8, so if Palmeiras lose 8 x 0 and Atlético MG win by 1 x 0, it's enough  :D :D :D
I don't say it's impossible, 100% impossible (but I want) and we know that is not going to happen, so it's just formality to play the last match and celebrating the title
0.2%, you have to bet 1000 dolars to win 2 dollars  :D :D :D


They (media) compared Botafogo's situation to Arsenal's, where they started very well but in the end gave the title to Manchester City
It's one of the most curious situations I've ever seen
I've just checked Botafogo's last matches and they've simply gone 10 games without a win, the last time they won a game was on October 18 against América MG, who are bottom of the league
In 10 matches they only got 6 points  :o

Guys, Well, now it's official... Palmeiras won the Brasileirão Serie A in 2023

The games of this last round have just finished
Sometimes I can't believe that Santos fell to series B of the Brasileirao, I had expectations that he would win against Fortaleza, I was also surprised by Bahia's victory against Atlético-MG and with that, Bahia left the zone of relegation (what a lucky team lol)

By the way, I congratulate Palmeiras and their fans for yet another victory in the Brazilian championship...

It's the first time Santos have been relegated to Serie B.
It's incredible how badly the team has played this season, of course it's bad for the team in general, but it's an opportunity for the team to reorganize itself, have a good Serie B and come back in 2025 with full power. It's happened to other big teams and they've all recovered

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Congratulations to Palmeiras

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This is the final table of the championship:

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the brazileirao ended with the conquest of palmeiras, it was a season in which I didn't expect to see palmeiras being champions, looking back, when the brazileirao started, I even thought that palmeiras would be in second or third place and botafogo would become champions with they were doing well in the games, I heard many YouTube channels talking about how Botafogo had everything it took to become champions, and that it would be difficult for Botafogo not to become champions, I remember the good profits that Botafogo gave me. Looking at the table and seeing that Botafogo didn't even manage to finish in second place, I get the impression that it would be difficult for a normal team to be as bad as Botafogo.

Botafogo fans must be very disappointed with what they saw this season, without a doubt it was something very shocking. Also as a fan of Flamengo, I must say that I didn't even expect them to become champions, that's why seeing them not being champions doesn't surprise me, Flamengo no longer has that same shine that it had in the times of Jorge de Jesus, it was It was exciting to watch the Flamengo game at that time, I could watch the complete games, but today I immediately fall asleep when I try to watch the Flamengo game or any Brazilian team. The games of the South and North American leagues are very boring, they look like the games of the Asian and African teams

There are a lot of jokes going on in Brazil because of Botafogo, in fact many influencers (Youtubers etc) said that Botafogo was going to be champions, that no one would take the title away from the team, and now they have to deal with the mockery because it was one of the worst title losses I've ever seen in the Brazilian championship  :D
I think many people lost money betting in Botafogo in the last matches, I'm included  :P I lost 3 or 4 bets in a row and I gave up betting in Botafogo

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Tomorrow I'll find the list I made trying to predict the position of all table, but in advance I can say I win the long bet of the champion  ;D 8)

Guys, did you make any money from betting on the Brasileirao or did you lose?

Botafogo was a self-destruct. Never seen anything like it that a team leads the league by so many points and that in last 11 round i think dont win a single match. I dont know what happened to them but it looks like they just didnt want the title and Palmeiras took that opportunity and won the title.

I'm 100% sure about that. Many people lost money betting on the initially outstanding Botafogo's campaign, what really raises a lot of suspicions in my mind... How can a team which was playing perfectly fine without any losses turn 180° around and only lose, lose, lose from a certain moment of the championship on?

Considering the low probabilities of seeing that happening and considering we are talking about Brazil, that is highly suspicious. Botafogo played well until every gamblers felt it was safe to bet on the team, and then, after all, everyone lost money to a minority who for some reason wasn't confident Botafogo was going to win...

Certainly the best thing that could happen for Botafogo was to hope that the championship ends soon, before it falls even further to the point of even being relegated :P

It's in fact, regrettable to see that the same team that had the best first round in the history of the championship also finished the competition outside the "Fisrt 4" and that will now need to face yet another challenge to try to qualify for the Conmebol Libertadores in the next year.

I'm happy for Internacional, it's my favorite team, but I understand the disappointment of Botafogo players and fans who went through complete mental and psychological destruction with this last result, but I think it's inevitable.

As I said... the best thing for Botafogo is that the championship is over, they can "go home", cool down, prepare better for next year and try for better results.

I don't think anyone can really explain what happened to Botafogo in 2023 ::)

Botafogo's last few games have been so bad that I honestly don't think it was suspicious.
I understand your suspicion, but it's been something so out of the ordinary that it's certainly been the team's inability to win any matches in recent games  :P


Which makes Botafogo's position even worse
If someone had told me that Botafogo wouldn't be champions a few weeks ago, I'd understand perfectly. Of course, any team can lose the championship even with a big lead. But if they told me that a team couldn't manage even one win in 11 games, I'd think it was absurd
On top of that, they haven't even qualified directly for the Libertadores in 2024...

Your team had a good season, got a good position in the Libertadores and at least qualified for the 2024 Sudamericana

I have to congratulate Palmeiras fans on another championship win!

The work of the Portuguese coach - Abel Ferreira, has been incredible.
Do you think he will continue for another season?

I confess I was surprised by this
I never imagined that this could happen to Santos, they are a strong team with tradition, but it wasn't impossible to happen, anyway, these are football things

Cruzeiro was almost relegated, but in the last few rounds it managed to recover and I confess that it was a significant recovery, by the way... Cruzeiro will still be participating in the group stage of the Copa Sudamericana.

@joker_josue, In fact, Abel Ferreira did an excellent job for Palmeiras and this shows in the titles he has been winning as the team's coach.

I carried out a brief search and it seems that yes, Abel Ferreira will stay as Palmeiras coach until the end of 2024.

References:
• Após reunião, Palmeiras diz que Abel Ferreira segue planejamento para 2024 (https://www.terra.com.br/esportes/palmeiras/palmeiras-confirma-que-abel-ferreira-continua-como-tecnico-para-2024,8b3e24a8236891f2af19cc101957832fbitqn883.html)
• Fim da novela, acabou de ser confirmado: Palmeiras e Abel Ferreira tomam decisão sobre continuidade em 2024 (https://br.bolavip.com/palmeiras/fim-da-novela-acabou-de-ser-confirmado-palmeiras-e-abel-ferreira-tomam-decisao-sobre-continuidade-em-2024-20231208-BBR-286471.html)

Well, I only saw him returning to Portugal, and at the moment there is no prospect of any big club having a coaching vacancy.
Benfica's coach may be the one in a more complicated situation, but the club's president himself has already reinforced his confidence in the current coach. So I don't see any changes either.

So, I think it makes sense for Abel to continue with the Palmeiras project.

I am happy for Palmeiras as they won the title but.the big losers of this Brazilian Serie A this year is surely Botafogo.They had everything in their hand to win this title with just a bit of more focus.They kept losing some games which they should definitely not lose and on top of that lately they did not win the direct clash with Palmeiras.Based on this I say congrats to Palmeiras for winning another title which at some point looked impossible to achieve.

That's right, Santos' relegation to Serie B was a surprising and heartbreaking event for the team's loyal supporters and it wasn't just fans in Brazil who were disappointed, but everyone outside Brazil felt deep disappointment. But behind the disappointment, there is an opportunity to start over and rebuild the strength of the Santos team.

and we all know the experience of other big teams who have been relegated and managed to recover, such as Juventus and AC Milan, and we all hope that Santos can do the same thing. It is important to understand that relegation is not the end of everything, but rather a new opportunity to grow and develop.

and all supporters must see this relegation as a moment of deep introspection into the factors causing the team's decline in performance. An honest and thorough analysis of management, team composition and game strategy can be the key to making necessary changes

we hope the future will bring fortune and glory for Santos, and that their journey through Serie B will be the first step towards a glorious comeback.