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Have you guys tried tailing high rollers with their bets on sports and electronic sports?
Because today I tried doing it just for an experiment and I took a bet on 5 games even without knowledge about them. I didn't put too much money into it because like I said, it's just for a trial.
It didn't end up well and these are the results. 4 losses and 1 win.
https://i.imgur.com/9vin3nZ.png

I copied the bet of users who are mostly playing above $1000 per bet. Some 1 Ethereum and the other with 0.1BTC if I remember it right.
So I thought, these gamblers are not joking about their bets, they must have researched hard and knew who has the highest chance to win or the end result of the scores.
Question: Has anyone been successful in doing this?

I know it's not right to bet on a game without knowing about it, I am just curious if someone does this kind of strategy.

Never did that. Honestly I was not aware that we can see bets of other people on sportsbook. I thought it was private :D.
Anyways, I think that kind of betting is quite risky since you only based on their bet amount, not their winning rate from their past bets. Be reminded that there are people who bet huge just for fun.

I used to follow bets from high rollers that post their bets and it's only because that high roller was always hitting his bets and others started following him as well. It worked out for me at the time but I remember that high roller had a lot of losses since he also made parlays and teasers aside from the usual single bets. Even if someone's successful at this strategy it's only a matter of time until they lose since there are too many high rollers to follow and most of them don't show their usernames on the feed so you can't tally their individual record.

Only Stake.com is the only casino I know that have this kind of feature which user can let their bet picks available in the public. I try this before but for parlay bets only with +100 odds above since this already a pure gamble without analysis. I want others to do the picking random bets for me just to come up with a massive odds parlay.

I never try copying single bets but most of the high roller player is really doing some of their research on their bet. Maybe you just timing to copy his unlucky bets. Try it for more times to have a better data analysis.

I've tried betting on sports betting and copying other users' bets. As a result I won but what I regret is that I was not too confident to place high bets hahah.

I just casually place bets on sports betting and just like you, I also don't have any knowledge about sports and the teams that compete. Well, placing such bets is just for fun and if I can win, it's a bonus for me ;D

Yes, Stake.com have that kind of feature and the curiosity did hit me on why there are a lot of gamblers who do bet large amounts like that.
Maybe you are right, it's just a bad day, I like your optimistic view about it too. I mean, this is what I am really looking for, those who really tried it and had a successful run or even the failed ones because I am trying to compare it.
I have tried this too and he/she is still active every day. A known user who has many followers tailing her picks in the chat box. Most of the time it is in a parlay and she will always warn everyone that is neither 100 assured nor a guarantee it will win. I think most gamblers who share their picks should put that note after their picks so no one will expect too much and they are ready to lose if it goes south.

The high roller tailing though is like a blind pick but I may be wrong on something.
@Eureka_07 may be right, there could be gamblers that are betting large amounts just for fun and it should be considered. Next time I will be trying picks that has low return but a higher chance to win. Like 1.10 - 1.50 odds.

1/5. It's a good thing you only tried with small bets. Don't you think they were deployed by bookmakers as bait to those who want to try copying thier bets?

I have not tried this though but seen copy buttons on the casinos. The one that I notice is that only those high roller's bets are the ones with copy buttons which is why I wouldn't trust it. I can see some usernames that have won many times but don't see copy buttons on them.

I have followed high roller bets in the past, but the same happen to me, it was one of those bad days for sports betting and I lose them too.

The fact that high rollers place those bets doesn't mean the game is a lock, in gambling luck is a fact and without the right luck, those bets can lose.

There are some threads that recommend a high chance to win sports bets, I think that method should work better.

I would trust high rollers when it comes to trading, but when it comes to betting on sports, I'd never tail them and would rather follow my degenerate people who bet a hundred dollars max on one event. The reason is, these guys will still have money to bet even after a lose and taking the huge odds, whereas us average bettors would likely consider every aspect of the game and apply logic to it in order to win, even if it does not give that huge return that these high rollers are aiming for.

They are just betting mostly on the possibility that their picks would hit - at least that's what the results you got tell me.

The copy bet feature is great,however the fact that it does not show the history of such user that you are copying the bet is letting you in the dark about their past performance and this is called a blind bet,the ones you have made are called like this.I usually copy only bets I strongly agree with and just to see that there are other people who think like me and bet like me.

In trading,for example as an analogy the website Etoro let you copy the trades of the top performers and you know whom you are copying from,however they also have a disclaimer that past performance does not guarantees future results and as such this can also be considered blind betting,something highly recommended not to do.

Yes, i have seen  this feature and this one is surely on Stake on which you could be able to tail out some bettors but i havent tested out this feature since im not really that a fan on tailing up some bettors no

matter how big their bet amount would be.You cant really guarantee about those picks to be high chances of winning.So it turns out that out of curiosity if these things are worth to follow on
then it do shows that its not.

Also, when i do make out bets then i do make out on something that puts up me some thrill and excitement on the time that i do make out selection
because there's no fun if you do just simply put bets on games which you dont even know.

This is just like copy trading if you are aware of it in cryptocurrency or forex trading, it's just unfortunate that your experience was not a good one as you have a 1-4 win-lose card that might drive you away from this thing. For me, it's good to copy their bet at first with a small amount in order to acquaint yourself with that sport but later on, I would suggest doing it on your own if you already have the knowledge of the game you gain from your experience copy betting.

I doubt it's a trap set by Stake, the feature can still be convenient for the bettors that use the feature because instead of clicking several times just to browse different matches, they can add it to their bet slip much faster with a few clicks.

For me it goes both ways, if I win my bet I sometimes get interested in certain sports that i'm not familiar with thanks to the tipsters that have good records or give out good reasoning behind their picks.

I also don't believe that those bets were deployed by stake. Remember, there are so many high rollers in stake.
This is why, they can very well afford to bet $1k and above, I've seen hundreds of thousands of dollars bet on this site.
Not following these high rollers as I know they are also the same people like us betting and hoping, they may know the sports but we have no
idea how familiar they are with that particular sports.
The OP's example shows that we can't trust these high rollers with their bets, much better to bet on your own to the sports you are very familiar with.

I have not tried it or even doing experiment just like that but what I do when betting is I follow the big bettor's bet and before that I have to make a research but not much research as I have a base bet to start with already which is from them and luckily I did won some though it's only a small amount unlike them. You can say that I go along with the bet that many people choose to bet and surprisingly it did work in some ways and I EVEN tried it in freebitco.in as an experiment to see if it would work, well not all the time.

I dont have doubts if those bets are deployed by Stake considering that they are really having lots of bets which it could be a thousands of dollars on each roll in a casino or bets on sports betting.
They wont really be able to reach out this reputation and popularity if ever they are really that deceiving their players and potential bettors on having those fake high bettors on the list
on which they do allow for someone to follow it.Its true that these bettors are just like us too on which hoping for some win out of their bets.It would be a good thing if Stake would be
providing some statistics of a certain bettor about winning rate?

This is something i have tried in the past and even made a post about it on this forum, the same strategy OP used is the same strategy i used , that is copying bets from the high rollers with the believe that they must have researched well before deciding to wager such an exorbitant amount of money on a game, but amazingly, I discovered that most of this high rollers still end up loosing their bets as well, from my experiment also, I discovered that the high rollers that lose their money in bets are even greater in number than those who win.
Its really an amazing discovery I must say.

I have not tested it, and I also like your experiment which is part your research. What you done it is a research work which is very good because of the practical aspect of the research. But from what you have displayed from the images they odds are just like normal ones. The way other games are placed the same with these ones. The games are lucky winners games and not for skillful games.

You were a newcomer in the casino but those guys are real customers in the company so you can't compare yourself to those guys. They know the in and out of the site. So they can play any amount. I thank God that you played what you can loss.

Regardless if they are high rollers or not, the fact that they are choosing odds like that (over @1.90), I won't follow those.

Even with how good they are, the chosen odds will tell us that it's a risky pick.

Maybe at some point that they only bet, let's say around @1.50, I might consider tailing them if I want to bet on some sports I don't have any knowledge of.

No, I don't tail anyone especially when it comes to sports betting.  Even with good knowledge, we are still guessing the outcome of a game. And not because they are high rollers, they have the capability to guess the right team or athlete to win.  Worst, because they have lots of money, they can just bet on whichever they feel comfortable even without any analysis of the component of the playing team.

Anyway, thank you @OP for setting an example not to follow any high-roller gambler I hope you recover your 4 losses soon.

If I'm not mistaken we have a similar thread wherein he mentions tailing bets regardless of high roller bets or not?

Copying Bet From Other Unknown Bettors, Is This a Good Practice? (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5420398.0)
Copying Bets From Other Bettors OFFICIALLY... (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5420951.0)

We even have thread as well with millions bet on a 1.01 odds and get get a big L.

So what I'm trying to say is that even if they are high rollers or big bettors it's not a guarantee that they will win.

Just like in your experiment 1/5 is a bad result.

Yeah, that's what I thought too. Maybe trying higher odds to win but lesser profits will enhance the chances of the bet hitting. I mean, those gamblers who take that kind of odds must've really thought it through before taking the bet.
It will just get nasty if those are just copied too from somewhere and the line already changed because the game is live. I may test 5 more on that version just to see if it works out.
No problem, but there are high rollers that I follow and not blindly, they are active on chat, and because I know the sport that he is betting with and I double-check it first before tailing the bet.
Wow. Thanks for sharing your experience.
So, this will really be a tough strategy if anyone is doing it or trying to do it, like me. Maybe it does require knowledge about any sport to be successful.
I may try just one more time and see how it goes.

this thread reminds me of a gambler trying to copy someone else's bet on last year's world cup match argentina vs saudi arabia. someone betting on Argentina with a very large bet of 2.3 BTC. after that there were gamblers who were passionate about the bet and tried to copy the bet and put in a large amount of $ 7k and in the end Argentina lost against saudi arabia.

it is one example of the carelessness of gamblers who ignore how important self-predictions are. I myself have tried and failed.
because people who bet on sports betting with a large number of bets, it is not certain that he has the right analysis and predictions. Sometimes there are new, very rich gamblers who just want to try to bet without analysis with a very large number of bets and what's worse, other gamblers copy the bets.

from incidents like this, other gamblers should understand more about the importance of self-predictions and analysis. don't believe in other people's predictions even if it's HighRollers, sometimes it's misleading.

Having a large amount of money does not mean those gamblers have high competence on those sports, 1k dollars per bet is a massive amount for me and most people, but it does not guarantee they are any good at sport betting and it seems your small experiment is proof of that.

Besides consider this, if beating the casino was as easy as just copying what those gamblers were doing, would the casino allow for anyone to copy what they are doing and lose money thanks to a feature they implemented?

It is a game of chance after all, although one might argue that the above posted betslips are for sports which is supposed to be EV+ game. But then again how many addicted gamblers actually do research on teams and then bet? Practically less than 10% of them all.

Hence by copying someone's gambling book you are only playing in the wild and you are carrying the same risk that you would carry if you bet on your own.

However you are not alone, because it is human nature to follow someone whom they see as successful and that is they reason why social media influencers are so popular and they manage to run coercion groups so easily. You have to be mature and accept that gambling on sports needs a ton of homework and then only you might have a chance of predicting correctly, added to it the luck factor.

I don't think it will make much of a difference personally. It just matters if the bet is sharp or not sharp. And people like having fun gambling at small amounts or large amounts. People with lots of money make fun bets all the time and unless you know it can be hard to reliably do this.

I've never followed it. If I want to try betting on sports betting, I will place bets on sports that I know so I don't get confused about which one to choose. But it looks interesting to try. But seeing the amount of money they put in made me not confident because I usually only place small bets. Maybe I should see the people who placed the bets first and try to learn about the sport so I can understand even a little bit.

If you're going to follow a bettor, copy their username. 1st you should probably write down their next 50 bets. It will be a small sample size, but see what their record is over those 50 bets and if they're above 70% win rate, they're worth tailing. I wouldn't risk betting just because they're wagering large amounts. They might just be betting for fun or see a good gamble.

I have never done so. Neither copying bettors, nor copy trading or anything like that. I prefer to be wrong with my mistakes.

If you are copying him for profits, it only makes sense to do it if you're willing to copy everything he does, every bet for months, otherwise there's no point. And even then you might catch him in months of a bad run and lose. Even if the bettor is good with proven long term profits you can't avoid the variance.

Or maybe if you have no idea about sports betting, it would also make sense to copy someone experienced even for just one bet, because his bets will be EV+, but don't complain if you lose that particular bet.

Sometimes you get lucky but there's no consistency on that, the best way to do this is to learn from your own style, at least you will grow and might be consistent in the long run. Not because they are betting huge amounts of money they are successful already, maybe they are just high rollers but they are losing a lot of money, or maybe that's what they can afford to lose.

As I said, it's better to learn from our own, and trust our bets so we will not blame other people for our losses but ourselves.

Never, I have no good reason to do so. I have tried following other's bet few times, but what I followed is not bets from high roller. I preferred to follow small bet with high odds because it is fun. Surprisingly I've won it once long time ago when I followed a $1 bet with odds more than 200x. Of course it was just a luck for me but I have no idea how the player choose the markets on that parlay bet, whether he did it randomly or he did it with many analysis and researches.

Their only edge is their being high rollers and can bet a big amount of money but when it comes to betting and analyzing they are just the same as all the bettors, you'll already gambling so why not gamble with your decision so if you win you enjoy the money you've won and at the same time enjoy the feeling that you've won because you got it right.

Copying a username will be a problem. Stake.com lets users put their name on hidden. I would love to do that too but there's no way it can be possible.
But there is one name I copied for like 3 times already in the Stake.com chatbox (not in the highrollers display) and it never failed me yet.
He ain't a high roller because mostly goes for $30-100 per bet on a parlay, and upon studying the parlay/bet builder he made, it really does have a high chance of winning unless injuries will happen.
Most of the time, 3-4 lines, and the total odds are just 2.20 - 2.50. Considering the number of bets it should be higher than that, but because he is trying to maximize the chance to hit it, the profits get lower.
I want to try this too but I don't know where to find them. There is no filter on Stake.com where you can search for those who are making long parlays with low amounts. It will be a big effort to monitor every bet that is being entered.

Just the same with regular gambler indeed, they just have the advantage of having huge amount of money to bet and they are taking the big risk, but in terms of winning chances, it's all the same.

Might have that confidence to bet huge as they've got decent amount to continue betting while with ordinary
gambler, they are unable to push or to continue when they suffer huge loses.

No, I have never done anything like copying other users' bets, nor do I think I will. Although I see gamblers making high profits by placing high stakes, it certainly doesn't make sense to copy their bets in any way without doing my own research or analysis. The reason for this is that gamblers who place bets with high amounts do not have a problem in terms of capital. These people may continue to bet with similar budgets after some losses, but as someone who personally bets using small capital for fun purposes, I may not be able to make up for it again in case of loss. For this reason, instead of copying the bets of these users directly, I prefer to bet by analyzing these bets.

As you know, example: Everton vs. Arsenal yesterday with a score of 1-0, users who bet on Arsenal fell, Everton won.

All you do is gamble, guide other people's bets, you are prepared to lose, you really can't do that.
• Have you ever seen how users who are successful in big bets, deceive other users who want to bet by following their copies, for example: they say bet on club A, fact they actually bet on club B, this is really annoying.

My advice, try to bet according to your abilities and with the instincts you have, don't be guided by copies, follow the development of clubs, players and so on, it's better if you do.

No problem about the amount if you have it. Is luck you hope for.


Not joking but only taking gamble chance to win. If you have winning the week before you can play huge the next week because of available cash with you  ;D


Yes. You can copy and be the lucky to join winners for the week


Some bet without about it. They will use only odd appetite for it but no strategy.

I did this for a while and looked at the odds before I bet any money because that's how I would be successful in this type of betting strategy. I didn't continue because I had to use the money I was betting currently.

You have to be aware and never bet too much money that you will regret losing. Those high rollers betting probably have a lot of money to bankroll their whole gambling career. That's why they probably bet like that.

Make the decisions for them, but you should know the amount willing to lose every bet.

I usually don't do it, but at poker or blackjack tables you can place bets on other people and basically follow their betting live. One time I kept watching a game for a while and checking people's profiles and I found a guy who had over 60% all time win rate and observed him playing and he was really doing good, so I started adding my bets to his and after maybe an hour of going back and forth I had 20% more on my account. He left the table and I did the same thing. When I bet on sports I try to do my own thing, I don't follow others.

To be honest, i never tried to trail high rollers gamblers.
but I will take one example, and review it from the side of the gamble. referring to the first bet with over 1.5 goals, that's reasonable and very rational. why, I guess the gambler thought that Arsenal would at least be level at 1-1. because Arsenal controlled the game with 70% ball possession. but apparently, Arsenal could not take advantage of the momentum and missed many opportunities.

For the second bet, still about football and the same as the first. I also lost, in this gamble. however, that doesn't mean I follow gamblers who bet on high rollers. actually, there is a lot that we can review in this gamble and why the gamble we lost. but in truth, gamblers are not in joking mode especially those who bet with high rollers. It doesn't matter if you follow the bets made by other gamblers, the most important thing is that you also have to know and be prepared for the risks. because, in every bet that we predict and analyze beforehand, there are no exact, accurate calculations, like mathematical calculations. so that means, as long as the game is running anything can happen. and one thing is certain, in gambling, winning or losing, will always involve luck.

Betting with the high rollers is assuming that people who have a lot of money made these money gambling or that people who bet a lot are smart and know how to do it. Being a high roller doesn't show who the person is, how smart, how good at gambling. You'd need access to their lifetime stats to know that. Many people bet a 100 every day and they don't care if they lose because they another 500 a day and that's more than enough for them.

I don't follow anyone when I gamble. The only good thing about following others is that if you lose you can always say that a high roller lost more because he bet 10 thousand and you bet only 100 on the same thing.

This is absolutely true. This is why it's hard to follow high rollers because they will always have the budget to back up whatever losses they may incur along the way. They will always have a way to bounce back because they already have the money to fund their next bets and they wouldn't have any problems in betting on underdogs for a big win for the most part. I still tail bets, but usually on bettors that I know who wanted to win so bad just like I do. They do their research and have used logic before they lock their bets. Not saying that the high rollers don't do this, but most of the time they bet on some teams because they are a supporter of that team and nothing else.

I have been away from poker for so long that this is the first time I heard about this, as we know unlike other games poker can indeed be a profitable occupation as long as you are very good at it, and since you are not playing against the house then there is no risk of your account being closed just because you are good at it, so it could be worth to look into this as if you can find a few good poker players you can bet on then you could make some money as well without knowing much about the game.

3 months ago or less because I don't remember exactly, but I also found out through this forum that it had statistics on the High Roller, so I decided to copy them, it was during the times of the world cup games, I saw a guy who had bet 2000$ that argentina would win arabia, and i decided to copy his bet, to my surprise his bet was lost because argentina lost

The next day I once again went to copy another High Roller and this time I also lost, I started to wonder why certain people were spending so much money on meaningless bets? I discovered that they were meaningless bets because later I decided to research the games they bet on and I realized that they bet on meaningless games

I think that if you reflect on what you did (and what the result got), you yourself will understand the naivety of your actions. Would you really say if you won all 5 bets that "this strategy works and these guys who make big bets know exactly what will happen"? The result is unknown even for bookmakers which operate with tens of millions of dollars per game (and maybe more) and you are waiting for a "signal" from simple bettors who bet "serious" amounts?

You have to be extremely careful when following people on the internet because you don't know what is driving them or what their personal circumstances are. You might have a spoiled kid who's parents have given them an allowance of ten thousand a week, who simply throw up some bets on a twitter feed and pretend like they pick winners (then subtly delete losers later on, to give a false impression). Then you might have shills working for these casino/sportbook companies trying to discreetly drum up new business with a form of (pretty lousy) advertising. Then again, you might come across 1 out of a 1,000 people, who if you still have any money left by this point, might genuinely win 51% of their bets but you're probably not going to copy them long enough to make it worthwhile - there can be huge variance in such betting.

That was a brilliant idea but for me, I found it's riskier even if these guys are so-called high rollers or high bettors. Sports matches are unpredictable even how professional these guys are and looking at the screenshot that OP provided, the provided odds can be considered risky odds.

I'm sure these guys do have a good winning rate but it's just that OP got a bad timing copying their bet.

Out of curiosity, any good reason why should we consider betting on other sports that we don't know?

I think not all rich people gamble high but many of them are in fact budgeting their money and this is why they achieve what they have now. On the other hand, there are poor people who can risk more especially in sports betting because they are too confident about their picks. If we don't have a knowledge in sports betting then it's better to do it this way than just betting on your own randomly.

We are already gambling so why we will gamble more when there is still a way to reduce the risk. Other than the strategy that we did earlier, reducing the amount that we are betting is also one of the ways to reduce the risk. It is a must though, with or without experience/knowledge.

Most of the high rollers have already high experiences in betting that’s why they are confident to place high bets because they have well research on the match being placed. That sometimes following them could also lead us to succeed. But it’s not all the time that they are going to win, gambling is gambling, even veterans also make wrong bets and lose their money. That is why if we are not sure where to bet, then do not go into random betting or follow a high roller, study first the match and know the background of each team, that way you will have better idea which team have high probability to win and which team will mostly lose. This is good for sportsbetting,   but for other games, still bet with caution to avoid blaming others once you lose your money.

First of all it is wrong to bet on the sports or game in which you don't have knowledge.
Second thing, users with high bet amount are not here to win, but they're to enjoy gambling.
Third thing, atleast you should've researched little about the players involved and the win probability.

Finally a good learning for OP as well as we people that even when we do copy betting we need to have
some basic knowledge about the games.

I have only followed some bet predictions by some forum members here. Those high rollers are probably just gamblers like us but with a bigger bankroll and other resources. They probably have access to some special network too that gives them the best information available but not the kind of info on rigged or fixed matches.

Every bet has a history behind it, these high rollers bet because they also copy from other bets they just want to try their luck or they have done their research, so you are really gambling your money in an event that you have a good chance of winning if you dig your own research and he really knows the game, its good to experiment but int he end it's preferable to bet with your own analysis, this is not a lottery game but a game of analysis.

Maybe following such persons through our forum is good than following high rollers blank without proper understanding. I've followed bets suggested in a thread and it was mentioned as fixed match. It looked like some kind of fraud and tried with small amount and I was able to win the game, that too on odds above 2. Rather than tail betting can find something trusted like fixed matches.

 I have never done it in sports betting and I have never really thought about it, I think I would lose the essence of my entertainment, which is part of my objective, obviously there is excitement about winning, but I think that is what happens when you go deeper or look for alternatives additional, which is what it should be, but I think that first of all you have to see a line of long bets or see their habits as a reference.

I'll give you for example, and I'm not a HR but today I won betting on Mallorca, I got out of that constant line of play and I'm quite given to not making that type of bet, it was something based on information (always) and intuition, but In my data for those types of bets, I have a very high degree of accuracy when I make these types of bets against the odds.

It's not that I want to go against the odds, no, it's that they just come out, if you check my sports betting graph you'll see very pronounced peaks, but it wouldn't be because I put a lot of money, where by the way I'm also very constant in the size of bets, but I come out of that constant win factor of 1.3-1.7, so if you check those peaks you find yourself with bets greater than 3.5.

In this sense, for example, if I see that a HR wins a game like the one mentioned, I simply ignore it, unless I know him very well, I can try to "burn" some money with his bet.

So even if you follow that "technique" you should try to bet to your measure, because you always only see the tip of the iceberg of that bet, perhaps he has a reason that is a priority for him and that perhaps in all his bets he compensates in some way or maybe not, as mentioned above only put $1000 for fun.

And in that sense it is a lot of money for you, it is, but perhaps $1000 represents in the equivalence of "$" or bankroll as about $10 for that player.

Therefore, you think that the fact of putting $1000 in a bet means that this person is very knowledgeable or has inside information, but it is not like that, 99.9% of the time.

A bet of $1000 or $1 on the goal of winning, most of the time, should be determined by the prevailing statistical information that leads you to get the best odds, not the amount involved.

Sometimes you bet more $$ for a simple reason, the bankroll.

I rather not do it because high bet doesn't mean the person is going to win, although it has some vibe to it when you see someone placing a large bet you think that guy has to be confident in that outcome. There's always the other side of the medal though. Maybe that guy places a bet that's 1% of his paycheck. You think it's big money and to him it's pennies.
You can compare this to what Tate is doing. He was buying cars worth fortune just to show off because he had so much money. I wouldn't be able to afford one of those cars, so I could say that buying such car is a good idea since he's doing it, but it's not. Spending millions of dollars on cars that depreciate in value is a terrible idea even when you're rich. Rich people don't always know what they're doing and they don't always fall on all 4 ;)

Maybe OP needs to do a more test run for the long term. That will give us a clearer view if tailing at those so-called high bettors will be a success or not.

Since even professionals even losing in sports betting, the key here is their average winning rate. There might be a day that we tail on a certain bet but unfortunately loses it but the next day we decided not to follow them, they have now won it.

But that requires patience and more money before seeing a good result.

That used to be my view on high rollers but now I view them more or less the same as any regular gambler because sometimes I'll see some high rollers tail small gamblers that provide the best reasoning behind their picks.

I agree with the last part that you said though, it's one of the things that most gamblers tend to forget when tailing the bets of other gamblers as some of them would even take the effort to discourage others by sending toxic messages instead of blaming themselves for the loss.

If it’s your hard earned money, then why you are acting on other people’s actions? I mean if by chance you win you will praise your luck, and if by chance you lose, you will curse those high rollers whose bets you copied. Thank God, the bets value wasn’t higher this time. I won’t really suggest to bet like this. It would be better if you do good amount of research for that game and bet on it. And believe me if you have knowledge on that sports, then easily you can predict the winner if you have a good observation. Make money with your own knowledge and confidence.

That's the problem as I check on the names of the bettors, it's all hidden. There's a feature at Stake.com where you could hide almost everything.
But I do get your point. Maybe I should start looking for high rollers who don't hide their profiles and follow them instead.
As for trying again, I have not done it yet. For now, I am trying to accumulate more and there's something else that intrigues me to do rather than this.
No worries I can control it.
As I said in my first post, this is just out of curiosity if there are real people who are doing it. I am trying to find out the success or failure rate of their bets upon just tailing the high rollers. I know my sport and how analysis works to enhance the chance to win the game. It's the intriguing part that made this question pop out.
Reading the last sentence of the opening post will answer your question.

The level of seriousness of bets wouldn't necessarily be determined by the amount. It is reasonable to assume that $1,000 to someone with $100,000 is equally as valued to $10 for someone with $1000. The rationale or thought would be the same for the person betting $10 as someone betting $1,000. I think that the trial that you conducted somewhat proves this theory.

Agreed, every gambler bets upon their ability. In such manner, what's been said is true. For someone having $1000 in wallet and spending $10 is same as a person with $100000 in wallet spending $1000. It is all about the prediction, from the bet slip it looks like the person have tried to bet against the odds. Betting against the odds could bring good return if lucky, and this time it is not his day and so is OP's day  >:(

I think your experiment is a very interesting one. Thanks for conducting it and posting the results here. We can't make any conclusions from just 5 bets, we need many thousands of bets for that, but we can discuss our expectations from this kind of betting.

I personally think that money-wise it's not worth it, or, in other words, it's the same as copying any other bets because in most cases people betting $1,000 at once are not more knowledgeable. They just can afford to lose $1k, same as we can afford to lose $1 or $10. But entertainment-wise it is surely interesting because we can make such bets and discuss our experiences in this thread, and kinda compete with each other in making more successful bets this way.

Congratulations @OP that's really a sweet win regardless how much you bet in that's match, you proving the most impossible chance to win can happen if it's your day, while the most possible chance to win didn't happen because shit can happen anytime.

I think if someone want to bet a huge underdog have extremely high odds, it's better to bet on unpopular or low tier event. When it's a big and popular event, 99,99% the outcome is always the huge favorite will win.

Copying user bets is one of the easiest ways to bet on sports betting without the need to look for more detailed information, but don't take it as a serious thing because if you can't analyze it yourself, maybe you won't win. But if you follow a user who bets on sports and is an experienced bettor, you may also win like him. But don't bet a lot of money by copying other users' bets because we don't know how big the chance is to win and whether the choice is the right choice. I've sometimes managed to do this and sometimes failed to copy user bets, but that's been fine.

I agree with you, impossible for high roller not to be serious about the bet and just randomly choose the match as well as the bet and it looks like you are just unlucky, because your 2 bets in the same match are not going well, if Arsenal are playing as usual actually it's not difficult for the match to produce 2 goals and also Arsenal to win but this is indeed a match whose results are unexpected so as I said before you are just unlucky, but at least you don't blindly follow it by risking big money.
Maybe someone has done it and succeeded, it's just that this is not something that is common, so not many publish the results.

We are talking about sports betting here not casino games and I think all sports bettors do always make a research first before they bet. If they play on a long parlay then that is only the time that they are making fun because the winning chance for long parlays are only small compared to a single or double bets. Knowledge plays an important role in sports betting but it doesn't mean that bettors of it are now immune to losses but losses can still occur normally.

The OP must not be disappointed but he better try again. I am sure that there will be times that he will now get lucky and win his bets. Risking big money in the game is not what you call a blind betting but it is when you just bet on your own randomly.

Even by analyzing it yourself there is no 100 percent guarantee of winning, especially if you imitate gamblers who bet with high rollers. does not mean, someone who stakes with high stakes that he will have a high chance of winning. not even that different as we do, basically all gamblers especially for that matter who bet on sports. everyone wants to win in their bets, whether it's the result of imitating other gamblers' bets or with the results of their own analysis. everyone must bet seriously, therefore they dare to bet high rollers. Nonetheless, what the OP is doing is an experiment he is doing to try to keep up with some high roller betting gamblers. But the point is, when it comes to betting, especially football, there are no really accurate predictions. after all, everything will always involve our luck.

Someone playing this cam of game will need to have a big portfolio so you will not end up bankrupt.
I can see that this kind of betting is meant for the big boys who have money and are ready to take big risks not minding how much it would caused.
If you have a big bankroll then you can easily play this kind of game.

for sure there are some gamblers who are curious with these high rollers, so it is not a surprise if the OP really did try to follow some of the bets of these high rollers. he was just unlucky with those bets. some may really got their success following some of them but do take note that when it comes to results in sports betting, you can really expect an upset would happen in any of those bets.

That’s why OP get a bad result of 4-1, imagine if you do that for a thousand bets, that could be a big loss for you. Never tried this one since I always analyze and bet on something that I worked for, this is like following the trend but no guarantee that they are right. Betting is more fun when you do your own predictions, its more exciting for me. Someone might succeeding on following the odds and those big players but its not ok all the time.

The essence of enjoying your bet would be totally lost on the time that you do rely with others betting picks which im not really that much interested on having this way.Nothing beats out when you are making bets on your own or according into your own analysis which it is more enjoyable and something worth even though you had lost your bet but it wont really be giving out that kind of feeling of regret just because you are really that following someone on the time that you do place up your bet unlike when you are doing it on your own and on you own choice then it wont really be that regrettable. You would be experiencing it for yourself
on the time that you do make out those move or decisions in between.

I don't follow high rollers because everyone can be one. You just have to have the balls to place bets as big as they do. What I follow though, are high streaks players. Anyone who I saw winning in successions with every game there is, I follow. Especially for strategy games that require rigorous thinking and planning. That way I can secure wins more likely than the person who tails high rollers. you can follow high roller games without matching their bets, especially for games like sports betting where you can place a bet of your own choosing. That being said it is a different story if you're trying to follow how these people bet too, including how much they place, which in that case you would be required to drop bags and bands.

Lol, not only balls but should have the money  to bet huge.  It is normal to follow people who has high accuracy of game prediction since following them can at least reassure as that the possibility of success in our action is pretty high.


True, this is the same thing @OP did, he follows high rollers and bets blindly following what these high rollers bet which resulted in him losing 80% of the game.


True, prediction is fun because we are anticipating the result whether it will match our pediction or not, the excitement is always there.

So


What does it change? All questions are relevant, and if you don’t understand why, then you are completely new to betting?
By the way, why do you think that betting without knowing anything about the game is bad? Blindbetting is a good thing. And if you think that you can learn more about the game than the bookmaker, then this is also naive.

I don't know if there's a bettor that will copy not just the bet but the bet amount as well too. Bettors who consider copying those high bettors obviously won't consider doing that to the fact, that was insane. Besides, I believed the bet amount placed by these high bettors is not visible to the public (or it does?)

Besides, high bettors don't mean they do have a good winning rate. It's just that they really put up a big stake mostly on their bets but the winning rate is in question. I'm not sure if there's a sports betting site where the winning statistic is also shown.

After seeing OP's post and reading everyone's comments, I get the impression that almost everyone is against following High Roller. Because almost everyone thinks high rollers are a trap, gamblers will lose bets if they follow them.

If that were the case, everyone would bet against the high rollers instead of matching their bets. By this way, you would be able to win most of the bets, lol.

So it is not the case that you will lose by following the bet of high rollers. There are some specific significants of high roller, which makes it easy to identify which game you should pick to place a bet and how to bet on a game.

You can hide your bets or keep them public if you want, I think its on by default.   I leave it on public as its not a big deal but the strategy to copy other peoples bets may not always work out well.   I would copy someone for ideas not literally a carbon copy because its always possible a person places a bet but later closes it out as they choose to reverse having watched the game or just as part of a general strategy to reduce risk.

Bad idea. Their $1,000 might be like a couple cents.

It looks really big for us but not for them , so having $1,000 multiple time losses for those people is a small bet to give it a try while for us it's a serious one. The situation pretty much different and you can't have the same level as them , the emotion in betting required , when you go serious .. you'll put a lot of effort before placing that bet and when you just playing around to try .. you'll place it randomly.

I would not blindly follow a bet from random high rollers on online casinos.

Unless there is a way to find out his batting average, then I would not suggest this strategy. We do not know if this person is just filthy rich that he can afford to throw away his money for his favorite team. Or maybe he is funded by a casino owner to flamboyantly display his bets to attract other bettors to follow his bet. It is just too risky if you are not familiar with the person you are tailing.

But if you can verify that the high roller is legit and he has a good batting average in his bets, then this could actually work.

When you do have lots of money then for sure you would really be having that kind of so-no-care type of betting unlike into some average joe's on which 1k per bet would really be that something you would

be needing to focus and be serious for whatever choices or bets you would be making but if you are a millionaire or someone whose a whale gambler then it wont really be that an issue.

It is really just that amazing on how these people do really afford on lossing thousands easily without even trying to mind on whats a better choice.
We dont know their story behind but in overall its not ideal to follow with those high rollers.

I have not tried it yet and don't have plan to do so. It's quite risky to rely on high rollers just because they're betting huge thinking they did their diligent research before placing such bet. But probably these high rollers are a real risk taker and that amount is nothing to them. Seeing the outcome of 4 losses and 1 win, just prove that it is not a good strategy (if you're planning to tail the high roller).

Therefore if we want to maximize our chance to win then it's best to have our own understanding and knowledge. This way, we don't need to blame other gamblers if the outcome is not good since we bet based on our judgement.

their confidence about betting high? is depending about their capacity and amount of budget so those High roller not to be followed but to be used as example not to follow if we had our turn in having big money.
and only tries to bet lower and just enjoy the game than fully expecting to win and then the outcome? LOSER lol.

Have tried once in other site that I use to love playing because someone who constantly betting 10-20k per bet and seeing Him win almost 50-70% of His bets but what happened after following him? I lose mine lol.so from there I stopped doing such and rely on my own way of choosing whom or where to bet lol.
but this is something you must try guys for your own exciting experiences .

I have never copied anyone else's bets at any casino.
That's because I don't know how reputable that guy is when it comes to betting on sports and I just saw him using a very large amount of money to bet.
I just thought, wow, that's a lot of money and he must have a lot of confidence picking his team.
That is very risky, in my opinion, because once he loses, he will all lose and vice versa.
And even though I have plans to try to copy other people's bets in the future, I will make sure not to use big bucks.

I also never tried this in my entire career as a gambler because what I do know is that following others bet will only turns into similar effect like them , if they lose then you will lose also? then why not go against their bets so you might experience opposite result?
if they are betting high then the chance for you to win if betting on the other side is higher right?
actually this is what i did in the past when trying to beat the big rollers momentum lol.

Yeah, that's what I did. I didn't make a large amount of bet because it's not my own analysis of the game. The intriguing part is how confident they are in their bets that they will put in a lot of money even though the odds are between 1.90 - 2.30, that's just too risky. I can understand more if it's between 1.10 - 1.30, low-risk high percentage to win as they are favorites.

There are different points on why it's difficult to go against them. First, they made a huge bet which will make it more confusing if they are betting the right odds or not. You will have doubts. Second, it will take time to find the game they are betting for which means a change in the odds especially if it's ongoing.
Finally, most of their bets are from games with close odds so there will be not enough time for analysis unless you know the game itself.
But on that final point, if you really know the game then you won't be looking out for other bets but instead, use your own picks.
I guess those who copy high rollers are for those who want to pick blindly, or just straight lazy. I did the former.

I rarely place bets on people's recommendations without really knowing them. When it comes to sports betting I like to make up my own mind instead of just following someone else. Only when it comes to some smaller leagues where I have no clue at all I am listening to friends of mine, where I know that they have been successful in the past with betting on these matches. Tailing High Rollers is like following Drake on Twitter when he posts his half a million betting slips on the super bowl or other invents. To me and the average gambler these betting amounts seem insane, but we don't know much about the High Roller. If this is only a small part of his monthly income then he might not worry so much about the bet and could have placed it with only a gut feeling. That is why I would be very careful to tail other people bets without knowing more about them. If you think that the user you follow knows more then you, I would still recommend to only start with small bets and try and see how profitable his bets really are. You can always increase your bet size in the future, but it's very hard to make back the money we lost.

never tried to follow whales play let alone bet about football teams, sometimes need to read more about each match to bet there, to be honest I never bet on great teams vs great teams, I prefer to bet on great teams vs underdog teams, sometimes it's predictable even though yesterday everton won against arsenal it was like a normal surprise, so it's ok to lose once in a while but win some other games  ;)

I saw regular market buy/sell orders version of this before but its my first time seeing its applied to crypto gambling as well. Regular people would be the least trusted when I gamble honestly. Average people will always be dumb, or mediocre IQ at best. I don't think people are good at picking matches in sports betting. I wouldn't trust slightly even to high rollers. Its far better if I pick my own matches to bet on. I am traditional with betting.

I thought I'm the only one tried this without actually not knowing what it is. I actually tried that before but I place bet on the lower odds thinking that it has a higher chance of winning which is not true actually. It's different from the normal sports betting and even in sports betting experimentation from different sports lower odds usually not winning all the time even the odds is lower than 1.20.

I was curious what is electric sports? is it something like NBA2k game?

In any case it does not really makes too much sense to follow what big bettors are doing and this is because we do not know if they are making those bets simply for fun or because they actually have some sort of superior skill than the rest of us, a safer approach would be if it is possible at all to keep track of their performance and results, and if their results are better than average then it may make sense to follow them, but I doubt anyone which does this experiment will find out they are doing better than the rest of us.

What is the difference between the average high roller and the average gambler? In my opinion, only the thickness of the wallet and the size of the initial bet. All of this gives absolutely no advantage over other players, so repeating high roller bets makes no practical sense. And it's high time to realize that gambling for the sake of making money is a very bad idea. Play gambling just for fun.

It doesn't matter if you bet following high roller gamblers. most importantly, you must know each risk. but most importantly, you do not do it blindly. every money we bet, is very risky. if we don't win, we lose.

Speaking of high roller gamblers, it doesn't matter if they have unlimited finances or are rich, they will still do an analysis first before determining the bet. we are no exception, even though we bet with a limited amount. but at least, before making that gamble. we will do research first, analyze it, look for any new information, then make a choice on the team we will choose to bet on. basically, in sports betting there are no accurate and certain predictions. in the end, the end result will always involve luck. however, if you only rely on luck in sports betting. then it will never work.

Officially it's called "betting behind" you can google it to see how it looks. Many casinos have this option and by doing it you can stay more anonymous and other people don't look at you as a player at the table. Also you don't have to wait for an empty seat and you can play at high roller tables without being a high roller because betting behind is not limited to minimum bet, like the normal bets at the table are.

I feel like this is a pretty good way of playing poker and blackjack. I actually prefer this when my mind isn't at the game and I just want to watch the game while betting from time to time.
When at the table you take the hit every time you fold, but when you back the bet you can skip a round without losing any money.

i agree with you on this matter. if you decide to follow some of these high rollers, make sure that you know also the bet you are placing with. don't just follow blindly. assess the reason why they are betting huge. there's a reason for sure. i don't think they are just betting tons of money for no reason and just wasting it. definitely they are seeing something for themselves why they made a big bet. because i don't think anyone will just waste money without hoping that they will win.

If you have been hanging out lately on the gambling discussion or in the trading discussion then you will be aware that it's called copying. The actual term would be copy trading for trading and copy betting for gambling. The only difference for trading is they have a separate platform for this and you will see their winning rate but in gambling I think that wasn't possible but you will only be aware of their winning rates if you follow the gambler too often.

You are right that low odds means higher chance of winning. It can happen most of the times but there are still rare chances that you can lose. I guess it only shows that your luck sucks that time.

When making out some sports betting then usually people would  really be that sticking to the moneyline or highly favorite on which it is really that very a common approach but we know that upsets could really
fuck up your bet and this is why its better or really not ideal to make that all in type of bet which it would really be that normal that you should always mind off and anticipate that there's no such thing about 100%
assurance when it comes to bet on where copying isnt really that something that you could really rely upon that they would really be having a good chance of winning.
Its not really that much of a good approach on how you do deal up with these things.

A high roller doesn't mean that they are good in their bets they just bet high they are like all of the bettors they make mistakes or miscalculations on their bets, it's hard to keep up with high rollers because they have deep pockets some them are playing for fun and they don't care for money, you could increase your winning chances if you bet based on your analysis and not following these high rollers.




Copying is good but only if you know who to copy your bet, there are groups that give tips and bets to follow but copying from high rollers based on the stat on the casino is quite risky.

Well, in as much as I believe that gambling is more interesting and fun when we play it for the fun, I still think its wrong to say that gambling for the sake of making money is a very bad idea.

You can agree with me that, there is actually no fun in losing money, so it's not out of place to want to make some money off gambling when you feel the need to, where it becomes really bad is when the quest to make money becomes a do or die affair, this is because such an approach can lead to lots of loses which can in turn affect the individual and family life of the gambler, it can also lead to chronic addiction which can also lead to health issues and possibly suicide.
So as we gamble and hope to make money in the process, we should always do it responsibly, and avoid gambling with an amount you are not comfortable losing.

High rollers are simply gamblers who can afford the risk of betting big time. It indeed does not win that they'd be guaranteed with a win but more likely they are just down into it. They can afford losing big amount because they know they will get back with their loss or still come up with a win afterwards but not in an instant. Copy betting is indeed a good idea especially if you know that whom you copied your bets with, knows more of what kind of game you are betting into. But keep in mind that there's no certainty with winning the chances will just be lessen or increased, but enjoyment will for sure be lessen. But it would depend on your preference as a player.

I think I've heard from my bets that they're following high rollers for them to save time and as well as have that bit of confidence in their bets.
But as usual, there are pros and cons to this strategy. It is gambling and we all know that the chances are always there for both boats, winning and losing.
And if this is making you effective right now, there will be a moment in time that it won't be good as what you're experiencing. So, if it's doing good as of the moment then hit the momentum.

I rely a lot on statistical data from websites, bets and opinions from other players, but I never use this as a rule to define my bet.

My final bet is always based on the research I do and also my final opinion.

I suggest, however, that no one copy my bets (I don't even publish them), as I rarely make any profit.
Fortunately I play just for fun and not for profit.

I find it very interesting to be part of Telegram groups, for example, for gamblers. In many of them, many valuable tips are published that can really help.
But again I say... place your bet prudently, based on your opinion.

If we talk about faith, both those who place bets and those who copy bets are equally confident in their abilities.
But we, as people who copy bets from other bettors, will not know how he has achieved so far in betting on sports betting.
And to overcome big losses, we must minimize the amount of bets, even though the temptation to win big will be there.
And whatever the stakes are, whether they are high stakes or low stakes, we must be able to control ourselves.

I haven't tried it. But this hardly sounds as a sports betting strategy. This is blindly betting. But for experimentation or curiosity's sake, you could indeed try it but for a small amount only. I myself imitated the bets of friends before without any idea. I also remembered I made bets on recommendations without really knowing the players, the teams, their statistics, and their level of skills, and even without understanding the sports itself. I later found out its boring that way.

Nah, it actually went bad. Results are mostly losing than winning so that concludes this is not really a good strategy at all.
I changed strategy now, I am trying long parlays with low-amount bets and trying to cash it out if I build a good win. It just takes a lot of effort to monitor it.
Correct, blind betting. That's what really happened because I don't really look at what game it is, I just believed the high roller is doing it because he was sure about his bet. But I am wrong, they are not really doing it because they have higher percentages of winning but more like just normal gambling.
Maybe if I could find that one guy that I could follow then this strategy will be better.
Blind betting too because I don't know the game but only follow those who have a history of winning more than losing. Sadly, the privacy options for Stake.com is high as users could keep their names hidden.

People will use many ways to win money from gambling and if necessary, they will also use blind bets without analyzing the match. This is probably common among gamblers, especially since many want to have fun placing bets on sports they know nothing about. Indeed, it is not recommended, especially if they immediately use big money to place bets. And I agree with only betting small bucks on sports that we don't know about because a few days ago, I also do that ;D

I have never followed the high rollers and copied their bets. It's a useless activity for me. I don't try to make money from sports events, and I just look at it as fun. Following the high rollers is just trying to make a lot of money, and you're passing the responsibility of losing on to others. Think for yourself, analyze for yourself, that's the only way you can learn how to win.

This has been a thing not only in gambling but also in trading. There are many personalities you can copy a bet to and follow their lead. However, just always be careful because there's nothing certain. Even if those good players and bettors have their unlucky moments too. You should stake that you can't really afford to lose especially you just tailed their decision without researching deeper about why they have made that in the first place.

In addition, some of the users who are known to be winning are anonymous, so you can't really verify if they have the enough background on what they are telling in the internet. They might publish a losing bet and then vanish later just to trick people desperate in winning. SO still, be on your guard and always double-check information before making a bet in sports betting or any other betting games.

Well, that's bad and likely expected since no strategy really is going to do well in the long run if it's related to gambling.
I just wish that you'll do good with your long parlays and it's more desirable as you're the one who should be responsible for your bets and there will even be no regret since you're the one who bet for it.

Haven't tried it yet before but I think it's wise if you trail high rollers with good percentage of winning and not just some random high roller/s that has an n amount of bet. I think it would be rare if you find yourself a high roller that is good on his/her bets even if it's only one, just minimizing the risk until you prove it's good then slowly increase your wagers.

I haven't tried it either because it's too risky. After all, we don't know the things that run in high rollers' minds. Some of them are just betting without thinking and just betting for fun while others apply their specific strategy to win.  Well, it's a good thing for those who are curious why they often win because they can copy their strategies and perfect timing. Let's just be mindful of the risks.

I know it is disappointing to not get the results that you were expecting but at least you tried and now you know the answer to the question if this is a profitable strategy or not? I just hope you did not lost a lot of money as when someone is testing a new strategy they may get convinced that what they are doing is finally going to work, and they may use way more money than what they should during those experiments and then they have to deal with severe losses.

I think that he won't do it anymore as he has stated that it was unsuccessful and didn't do him good. But if he still wants to, your idea is a good pattern to follow and only those with good winning percentage and accuracy should be followed.
Anyway, if it's clear that this won't be good in the long run and he's got some other plans to do aside from tailing the high rollers. Do the strategy that you're more confident and you think will work more than this strategy that's being tested out.

I have seen sometimes these "hard" bets on several bookmakers that show bets ... but ... I have been always shocked for such heavy amounts on some multiples.
It's really hard these going to win (likewise x10 ...)
Most of gamblers explain with "people with broad wallet" but by the way I don't know how they can place such games ::)
For sure I will not copy these bets :)

Not really, it depends on how you react to it. but by the way, the OP is just experimenting and he only bets a limited amount. basically, it doesn't matter if we emulate high roller gamblers. most importantly, must be prepared with the risk. but if you refer to some of the bets that OP shared, especially football. there's honestly nothing wrong with that. in fact, I bet on the Arsenal team, just like the OP did. why, referring to what I know, involving insight, experience and not forgetting research plus analysis. it is only natural for high roller gamblers to bet on the Arsenal team, or over 1.5 goals, with a temporary score of 1-0. high roller gamblers expect Arsenal to equalize at 1-1.

Unfortunately, the result is not what we expected. the point is, in a match, there is no exact count to find out which team will win the match especially based on predictions. that is, it doesn't matter whether we imitate or the results of our own analysis. in the end, the final result will be determined when the match is over. related to winning or losing, isn't that part of the risk.

You would really be having these questions on mind on how the heck they do really consider out such kind of bet on where it is really obvious that winning chance or odds is way too slim.Yes, we've been able to see upsets but these things doesnt really happen often or everyday which we could really be able to assume out that sticking to moneyline would be always ideal or something that most people would be sticking on because they do know that it would most likely to win.On the time that you do see on how big they are betting on when it comes to those underdogs which it would really be leaving out some questions on mind
on how they do make out those considerations?

as far as I could see, these big bets don't happen on underdogs, but very often, but on events with even odds (1.80-2.20). if you get a look on some sites there are hundreds of that bets daily.

it worries me a lot when I see large multiples (for example 5 events in the same bet).
I personally see it as a way to lose money... an experienced gambler would avoid like the plague ;)

I don't think giving up will do any good maybe it was just a coincidence too that the one he trails lost for the day. As I've said, you can try it few times and observe if it will be good. Sometimes it's not bad to rely on others but yes being confident on your bets will just make you gain experience even on lose or winning side.

Nothing beats the confidence one gets from gaining experience in a certain area, mostly gambling in this context. I say this because, although it is adviced that mentors be tailed or other worthy hands with tesmonial to the effect, be emulated/copied/tailed, the experience after careful study, pays well. One would be able to systematically adopt a style that is unique and rewarding in the long run.

I have not tried such thing and I don't think I would, even if there were some good results at first, just because some user is a high roller does not mean they are always right. I would rather to be fully in control and have knowledge on where I putting my money.

That is only my personal opinion, of course.

They do have just the money that they could spend up big which its not usual for every time that you do gamble but we know that there are people who do put up huge amount on each bet.

You would really be having thoughts or feelings that they might really be that so sure in regarding into their bet and why they had bet out such huge amount which this is the
common thing that you would really be having in mind on where you do assume out that they are really that sure.

High roller doesnt mean that they are really that right and it is really just that they are really that having the money or deep wallet for them to do so.

I Know that not every casinos will support this kind of game. Copy game can also be very risky because nit everyone will be able to afford what the big boys gamblers are using to bets. This is a weak way to bet because gambling is not something that we will always think that will win. You can be betting and making good profits and suddenly you start making loses. That is how trading works sometimes even when you have substantial luck with you. The money we are making is not our money so we shouldn't expect to continue making consistent profits even when we want to copy trade.

How I wish I could also find somebody whose betting strategy is giving him a lot more wins than losses. The difference between wins and losses will have to be big, otherwise it is not worth following his bets. If his win-loss ratio is just 50:50 or even 60:40, I don't think it is worth following. I'd rather make my own analysis and prediction.

Bet amounts are also not a guarantee that the bettor is more or less certain of his bets. Small and big amounts in betting are relative. For a small-time bettor, $1,000 or $5,000 is already a big bet. To somebody who has so much money, the average bet could be as high as $100,000. And he's just even placing that bet for fun and without much analysis.

it is not a strategy at all mate because you are only following other strategy , and this is too risky for small bettors because not like those biggies? they can afford recovering but what about lowbies?
i don't recommend this to be my act in gambling instead I will rely in my own luck and judgement .

High roller's bet doesn't always correct too, trusting his prediction because of the money he was bet isn't a good decision. At least he need to explain why he bet that and his analysis, so it's make more sense to follow him.

But I'm mostly bet using my own luck and judgement too because if I predict wrong team/fighter, I wouldn't blame myself if I lose because the bet was created because of me, not from someone or stranger's mind.

Well, sometimes giving up is the best option when you just keep on dwelling with losses and you can't attain it anymore. You don't see some light from it and that's why just to give up that discovered strategy is a good thing to do.
I agree with all of you've said but it all depends to the results and as per OP, he said that it's not working to him anymore and that's why he just have to leave and try something else that might work for him.

It depends on the high roller portfolio you are following is the answer to the argument. You can consider it as good strategy if the high roller you are following is very good on gambling. Some high roller always play safe despite of their huge bank roll because they attain that huge bank roll by slowly winning against the casino.

I’m ok following the bets of high roller if they are winning most of the time which you can check on his winning rate percentage on his profile rather than do it myself if I don’t have much knowledge or I’m in bad lack streak.

Actually, it's okay if there are gamblers who try to do this as long as they can be responsible for what he decides. So his point is winning and losing are there and he already knows about that and can accept whatever the outcome is. In addition, he must also be able to control himself, not use big money to gamble but the money he can afford so that if he loses, it won't be too big and he can accept it. And we must remember that people who bet with a lot of money are not guaranteed to win because they have the best analysis. But maybe he just made a bet based on his feelings and wanted to try his luck.

Yes, it's not always correct, even at the odds that they are betting, it's not an assurance that they will win. But the thing with them is that they have big pockets so money is not problem for them betting with smaller odds but with millions worth.


For us that is the best strategy, not looking at others bet and try our own luck and gamble with the thought that we might win big and not rely on others by trailing them even if they are called whales or high rollers.

Lol, if you are gonna gamble based on others' games then you are surely gonna lose your money.
If you don't even know what you are doing with your money then how will you manage to turn it into profits.
If you want to know how the high rollers are playing then you can start analysing their bets and then you can create your strategy referring their bets and then make your bets.
This way you will be in control of your games and not them.

Before you say risky, you should first see if how much is the amount you are betting. If that was only small then what about the guy that you are following who bet millions? The risk that they are facing is too big so I don't think they will just bet right away without any deep analysis.

The things that run in the high rollers mind would be to win huge money because if they are only playing for fun then you won't see them in the rollers tab because they are only betting smaller amounts. Timing can be important but how do we know when it was now the right time to ride someone's bet? Maybe after a win? Because, their luck might still be there or it can also be after a loss because they will now try harder next time.

It is a trial, a test, an experiment. That's why I am asking if there are gamblers who does this bet. I test it, it doesn't really work (according to my test). So I stop. It doesn't mean I will continue and it surely doesn't mean I wasted a lot of money. I don't test things by risking huge amounts. That's just stupid.

I think I do know what is happening. If we are used to betting $5-10 per game, these guys might also be used to playing $1000 - 5000 at each bet and it doesn't hurt them. It's a normal thing for them so it doesn't mean their bets are highly accurate just because they are risking an amount that is surprising to some gamblers.
They are just normal gamblers who could lose it if the game goes south. The same with our own predictions even if we pick the higher odds to win with fewer profits.

Closing this thread and thank you for all the answers. I do appreciate those who shared their experience and answered the question honestly.