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Title: Are Casino Sites Cheating Us?
Post by: leonair on March 23, 2023, 02:39:46 AM
Most of the time I play Blackjack & Dice.  I have always noticed that when I bet a large amount I am a loser when it comes to Dice.  Also in case of Blackjack when I bet big amount I get wrong card due to which I lose the bet. On the other hand when I bet small amount I win in case of Dice and if I bet small amount multiple times I win multiple times.  In Blackjack, when I bet small amounts, I am always get good cards and win the bets. Thus the cycle continues.  I have noticed that it is not an easy thing to withdraw from having achieved something great. I always gamble for fun with small amounts and lose them but I don't care. But I started playing blackjack yesterday with $1k and noticed that the casino sites are somehow cheating us. I lost my $1k yesterday. through Blackjack. What do you think about casino site algorithms?  Are they cheating with us?


Title: Re: Are Casino Sites Cheating Us?
Post by: tusandii on March 23, 2023, 02:57:55 AM
Most of the time I play Blackjack & Dice.  I have always noticed that when I bet a large amount I am a loser when it comes to Dice.  Also in case of Blackjack when I bet big amount I get wrong card due to which I lose the bet. On the other hand when I bet small amount I win in case of Dice and if I bet small amount multiple times I win multiple times.  In Blackjack, when I bet small amounts, I am always get good cards and win the bets. Thus the cycle continues.  I have noticed that it is not an easy thing to withdraw from having achieved something great. I always gamble for fun with small amounts and lose them but I don't care. But I started playing blackjack yesterday with $1k and noticed that the casino sites are somehow cheating us. I lost my $1k yesterday. through Blackjack. What do you think about casino site algorithms?  Are they cheating with us?
In fact, casinos don't deceive friends, it happens in gambling, it's natural because you play against the system, so whatever you do, you can only lose, unless luck is on your side.
Try to play gambling with a limited amount, if you can get wins more often, you can actually use it to make consistent profits.
But keep in mind to gamble according to your ability and control yourself so you don't get carried away by emotions when playing so that when gambling with a happy mind and heart you can more easily be able to play well.


Title: Re: Are Casino Sites Cheating Us?
Post by: mindrust on March 23, 2023, 03:04:18 AM
Could be. However I don’t think any reputable casino needs these kinds of tricks to win our money. I think you were just unlucky. I know it because these big casinos are almost always use the same provable fair betting system where you can verify your seed/roll. If they were scamming us someone would have noticed it long time ago. The situation might be different on the newly established smaller online casinos though. Who knows what filth is hidden in their code…


Title: Re: Are Casino Sites Cheating Us?
Post by: pakhitheboss on March 23, 2023, 03:16:17 AM
I don't think that is called cheating. That is called probability! The house knows that you will start with small bets and gradually move into big amount. When you place a big bet after winning small bets they would make you lose. This why you always need to be inconsistent while placing bets. Sometimes it works and most of the time it won't. Always remember in the end the casino will always win.


Title: Re: Are Casino Sites Cheating Us?
Post by: leonair on March 23, 2023, 03:17:06 AM
Most of the time I play Blackjack & Dice.  I have always noticed that when I bet a large amount I am a loser when it comes to Dice.  Also in case of Blackjack when I bet big amount I get wrong card due to which I lose the bet. On the other hand when I bet small amount I win in case of Dice and if I bet small amount multiple times I win multiple times.  In Blackjack, when I bet small amounts, I am always get good cards and win the bets. Thus the cycle continues.  I have noticed that it is not an easy thing to withdraw from having achieved something great. I always gamble for fun with small amounts and lose them but I don't care. But I started playing blackjack yesterday with $1k and noticed that the casino sites are somehow cheating us. I lost my $1k yesterday. through Blackjack. What do you think about casino site algorithms?  Are they cheating with us?
In fact, casinos don't deceive friends, it happens in gambling, it's natural because you play against the system, so whatever you do, you can only lose, unless luck is on your side.
Try to play gambling with a limited amount, if you can get wins more often, you can actually use it to make consistent profits.
But keep in mind to gamble according to your ability and control yourself so you don't get carried away by emotions when playing so that when gambling with a happy mind and heart you can more easily be able to play well.
Bye we play against a system that makes us suspect that there is some hidden code in their algorithm that is fooling us. Yes gambling must be played for entertainment and I have been using gambling as entertainment for a long time but yesterday I went there with a large amount and noticed these. I always gamble with a cool head but what can I do when the system deals me the wrong card?  Is there any user hand here? And how can I make sure that the system is giving me random cards and he is taking random cards himself

Could be. However I don’t think any reputable casino needs these kinds of tricks to win our money. I think you were just unlucky. I know it because these big casinos are almost always use the same provable fair betting system where you can verify your seed/roll. If they were scamming us someone would have noticed it long time ago. The situation might be different on the newly established smaller online casinos though. Who knows what filth is hidden in their code…
I prefer to gamble at trusted casino sites.  And I played Blackjack with Stake.com yesterday. And I know this site as a trusted site.  And they have been campaigning on this forum for a long time. I think they are involved in some fraud.  If not why are the reputable members of this forum not promoting the stake.com signature where there are always open slots in this campaign?


Title: Re: Are Casino Sites Cheating Us?
Post by: btc78 on March 23, 2023, 03:44:18 AM
I think it is not cheating but it is the system that sets regarding that as I also noticed this in the beginning but eventually ? i understand that  when you are lucky ? there is nothing that can deny you from winning mate so yeah it is not literally a cheating but their way to win against us.
and i also believe that good site will ever have to do this when they are surely winning against every gambler in all forms.


Title: Re: Are Casino Sites Cheating Us?
Post by: Maus0728 on March 23, 2023, 04:10:27 AM
Perhaps it has something to do with past results, especially if during the game, your previous bets resulted in consistent small wins which influenced your confidence to bet big without realizing that the house is primarily designed against you. Essentially, you are being blinded by small consecutive wins.

At the end of the day, it is still a game of chance and luck, and the only way to go is proper "risk management."

If not why are the reputable members of this forum not promoting the stake.com signature where there are always open slots in this campaign?
One reason maybe is they require a lot of post count while being underpaid in which most members disagree with.


Title: Re: Are Casino Sites Cheating Us?
Post by: Bitinity on March 23, 2023, 04:22:19 AM
Bye we play against a system that makes us suspect that there is some hidden code in their algorithm that is fooling us. Yes gambling must be played for entertainment and I have been using gambling as entertainment for a long time but yesterday I went there with a large amount and noticed these. I always gamble with a cool head but what can I do when the system deals me the wrong card?  Is there any user hand here? And how can I make sure that the system is giving me random cards and he is taking random cards himself

If you play a game which has provably fair system and if you understand how to verify your bets, you can check if the casino do something bad with your bet or not. You cant judge a casino is fooling you by comparing the result of your small bet vs big bet. Anyway, this is not the first time I read a gambler who think that a casino is cheating just because he/she win with small bets but lose with bigger bets. If you want to make sure yourself of the fairness in your bet, go find casino with provably fair system so you can always verify your bet result.


Title: Re: Are Casino Sites Cheating Us?
Post by: Don Pedro Dinero on March 23, 2023, 04:31:32 AM
Most of the time I play Blackjack & Dice.  I have always noticed that when I bet a large amount I am a loser when it comes to Dice.  Also in case of Blackjack when I bet big amount I get wrong card due to which I lose the bet. On the other hand when I bet small amount I win in case of Dice and if I bet small amount multiple times I win multiple times.  In Blackjack, when I bet small amounts, I am always get good cards and win the bets. Thus the cycle continues.  I have noticed that it is not an easy thing to withdraw from having achieved something great. I always gamble for fun with small amounts and lose them but I don't care. But I started playing blackjack yesterday with $1k and noticed that the casino sites are somehow cheating us. I lost my $1k yesterday. through Blackjack. What do you think about casino site algorithms?  Are they cheating with us?

The feeling you have is quite common but it is nothing more than a feeling. Almost all the casinos that advertise on the forum are trusted and don't rip you off because they make enough money doing things legitimately. What you say is probably just a coincidence of short term results. When you talk about 'always' that I have put in bold, what sample results are we talking about? Millions? Surely not. Another thing that tends to happen is that when we bet large amounts it is scary money for us and we change the way we bet as well as being more sensitive to the results.



Title: Re: Are Casino Sites Cheating Us?
Post by: Plaguedeath on March 23, 2023, 04:56:12 AM
I prefer to gamble at trusted casino sites.  And I played Blackjack with Stake.com yesterday. And I know this site as a trusted site.  And they have been campaigning on this forum for a long time. I think they are involved in some fraud.  If not why are the reputable members of this forum not promoting the stake.com signature where there are always open slots in this campaign?
If you think they're involved in fraud to make you lose, you can create a new thread in scam accusations section, I believe people will defend on stake and no one trust you except trolls ;D

There's no fraud in Stake, you're just unlucky during played Blackjack, as you said you've won when you're use small amount, but you're lose when you're use big amount money. You will not always win and you will not always lose in gambling.


Title: Re: Are Casino Sites Cheating Us?
Post by: Strongkored on March 23, 2023, 05:01:57 AM
I think it's just a coincidence, maybe you should try it by playing using the same bet value in each round, so you can do another evaluation. Casinos already have HE and without cheating they already get big profits with the setting of the HE, and do bad things in their games to get even bigger profits. I think that casinos that already have big names will not do this, maybe it could happen to a new casino or a casino that was made for the sole purpose of deceiving, but with the amount of money you use to play you should play at a trusted casino so you don't experience what you think is really happening. Casinos that are built to actually survive in this tight industry won't go under by cheating, it will only cost them players, and ultimately destroy their business.


Title: Re: Are Casino Sites Cheating Us?
Post by: bitterguy28 on March 23, 2023, 05:05:44 AM
if you feel being cheated when you bet bigger then stop putting high bets  ;D ;D

this is business so what kind of business will love to pay higher ? meaning it is being installed in their system , and also the reason why there are only few chances that a gambler can win too much .

Look at the lottery . while they are promising super high wins? yet the system to win is really hard and sometimes each draw brings no winner for jackpot and that comes a million ways to lose but a single chance to win.


Title: Re: Are Casino Sites Cheating Us?
Post by: delfastTions on March 23, 2023, 05:11:28 AM
Of course, the old proven casinos that use the provable fairness algorithm are unlikely to deliberately make small bets for the most part winning, and large bets losing.  But OP certainly should write here why he decided to take a chance and play with a rather large amount of $1K.  After all, OP used to play with small amounts?  It would be better if you continued to play with small amounts and there would be a balance of wins / losses.  I think that this is the OP's mistake, who took a risk and lost, which generally happens with a probability of 50/50. I don't think that such casinos have introduced elements of fraud into the algorithm.  And, by the way, other regular players of this casino would have noticed this long ago. 
I still do not rule out that this topic and similar ones, the same accusations against a certain casino can be created in order to create anti-advertising for this particular casino. :)


Title: Re: Are Casino Sites Cheating Us?
Post by: BobK71 on March 23, 2023, 05:49:44 AM
In this regard you missed an opportunity though. Since you say that you win by betting with small amounts. I think you should have played with smaller amounts. However, no such complaint was found on any reputable site. When you bet more, your luck doesn't favor you. Or it could be that the site is cheating you. But for this you must collect proper evidence. Otherwise you cannot take any action against them. If your doubt is strong and you can't gather any evidence, you may be better off choosing another good site.


Title: Re: Are Casino Sites Cheating Us?
Post by: TheUltraElite on March 23, 2023, 06:00:47 AM
Games that are having an EV negative will always have a long term loss profil, because of the house edge and because players never stop after a net win/profit.

If you think a casino is cheating you, verify its provably fair algorithm yourself. If you are confused how to do this, do some searching on YouTube.

In either case, the reputed long time running casios would not cheat you because have many forum users here who are well accustomed with this system and actively seek out casinos and their algos for bugs and possibl exploits.


Title: Re: Are Casino Sites Cheating Us?
Post by: TravelMug on March 23, 2023, 06:02:21 AM
Most of the time I play Blackjack & Dice.  I have always noticed that when I bet a large amount I am a loser when it comes to Dice.  Also in case of Blackjack when I bet big amount I get wrong card due to which I lose the bet. On the other hand when I bet small amount I win in case of Dice and if I bet small amount multiple times I win multiple times.  In Blackjack, when I bet small amounts, I am always get good cards and win the bets. Thus the cycle continues.  I have noticed that it is not an easy thing to withdraw from having achieved something great. I always gamble for fun with small amounts and lose them but I don't care. But I started playing blackjack yesterday with $1k and noticed that the casino sites are somehow cheating us. I lost my $1k yesterday. through Blackjack. What do you think about casino site algorithms?  Are they cheating with us?

It's really hard to proved it casinos are cheating, but we all know that they have the edge, so it might be the case that you are getting. Or maybe luck in not on your side when you bet huge money. Unless you can check everything and set that they are changing the seed, hence they make you lose.

And so you might have that kind of feeling that you are being cheated, but if there's no proved at all then there's nothing we can do.

Too bad to here that you have lost $1k, that is a huge amount.


Title: Re: Are Casino Sites Cheating Us?
Post by: Crypt0Gore on March 23, 2023, 06:14:51 AM
Most of the time I play Blackjack & Dice.  I have always noticed that when I bet a large amount I am a loser when it comes to Dice.  Also in case of Blackjack when I bet big amount I get wrong card due to which I lose the bet. On the other hand when I bet small amount I win in case of Dice and if I bet small amount multiple times I win multiple times.  In Blackjack, when I bet small amounts, I am always get good cards and win the bets. Thus the cycle continues.  I have noticed that it is not an easy thing to withdraw from having achieved something great. I always gamble for fun with small amounts and lose them but I don't care. But I started playing blackjack yesterday with $1k and noticed that the casino sites are somehow cheating us. I lost my $1k yesterday. through Blackjack. What do you think about casino site algorithms?  Are they cheating with us?
Listen to yourself, if small amount is what keeps bringing you a good fortune then accept your luck, I thought it's always a good thing to use a small amount of money for gambling, the only way to lower your loss is by using a small amount of money.

Also, some online gambling platforms will try to wake the greediness in their players, making them win with small amounts so that they can get greedy and retry again with Big amount of money, this is common sense, think about it, why win only when you play with a small amount? You are not alone.

A smart gambler would have known how the platform is operating, and have some laughs about it, but keep playing with small amount, since that's the only assured way to win on such a platform.


Title: Re: Are Casino Sites Cheating Us?
Post by: irhact on March 23, 2023, 06:49:24 AM
Most of the time I play Blackjack & Dice.  I have always noticed that when I bet a large amount I am a loser when it comes to Dice.  Also in case of Blackjack when I bet big amount I get wrong card due to which I lose the bet. On the other hand when I bet small amount I win in case of Dice and if I bet small amount multiple times I win multiple times.

Change the casino that you're using to bet, maybe their systems isn't fair and they have manipulated it so they win when you bet big and they lose when you bet small to encourage you to bet more so they make profits from you. But if you try some other casino and the returns come out the same then note that your lucks are on small bets.

There's nothing wrong in betting small and winning, keep doing that and you might accumulate enough money for yourself. Don't be greedy and increase your staking amount, already you have seen that it doesn't work out for you so continue betting small and win.


Title: Re: Are Casino Sites Cheating Us?
Post by: swogerino on March 23, 2023, 06:59:53 AM
I think it is not the casino or may be let's put it the way OP asks here,they do "cheat" us but only thanks to the provider of the games the casino offers to us.I will make you a personal example and despite not being Blackjack but slot machines the analogy is almost the same,the moment I was playing with minimal bet the slot machine kept giving me profit,getting near 200 dollars in profit with 0.10 dollar bet is a good achievement for my standard but you start getting bored because it takes a lot more time to grow your balance further.In this case it is in our DNA-human nature that we want to get more and more profit and we raise the bet,that is an extreme error which 100% of the times has brought me to 0 balance.


Title: Re: Are Casino Sites Cheating Us?
Post by: Renampun on March 23, 2023, 07:03:29 AM
Most of the time I play Blackjack & Dice.  I have always noticed that when I bet a large amount I am a loser when it comes to Dice.  Also in case of Blackjack when I bet big amount I get wrong card due to which I lose the bet. On the other hand when I bet small amount I win in case of Dice and if I bet small amount multiple times I win multiple times.  In Blackjack, when I bet small amounts, I am always get good cards and win the bets. Thus the cycle continues.  I have noticed that it is not an easy thing to withdraw from having achieved something great. I always gamble for fun with small amounts and lose them but I don't care. But I started playing blackjack yesterday with $1k and noticed that the casino sites are somehow cheating us. I lost my $1k yesterday. through Blackjack. What do you think about casino site algorithms?  Are they cheating with us?

I'm not sure I can give you a good answer, but I myself have no doubts about the algorithms of some online gambling sites at the moment (I'm not sure they are cheating us), claims probably fair may be a little doubtful for players, but when you play, you must be fully aware that you can lose all your money, so it's all your responsibility. My advice is if you really doubt the algorithm of a gambling site, then play with small capital, don't try to put big capital in your game, especially if it's a slot or dice game.


Title: Re: Are Casino Sites Cheating Us?
Post by: Oshosondy on March 23, 2023, 07:11:15 AM
But I started playing blackjack yesterday with $1k and noticed that the casino sites are somehow cheating us. I lost my $1k yesterday. through Blackjack. What do you think about casino site algorithms?  Are they cheating with us?
Did you know that as your bet on one, another people are betting on another on the same game which is different from yours, so what you lose is what some people take and they are going win, that is how it happens in blackjack and dice. Do not think because you use small amount you are winning and if you are using higher amount you are losing,this thinking the gambling sites are manipulating is wrong. I can not say because of that conclude that gambling sites are manipulating because it is most likely that people will have different mindset if gambling with small amount of money and if also gambling with high amount of money.

I love sport betting in addition to some casino games, can sport betting sites too manipulate like this? I do not think so. I noticed in the past when I was very addicted to sport betting, that if I use high amount of money that I do lose, but if I am using small amount of money to stake, that I do win. I was very surprised when my friend told me the same thing too. So do not think of it as manipulation, your mindset and the way you bet may be altered with increasing amount that you are using to bet.


Title: Re: Are Casino Sites Cheating Us?
Post by: UserU on March 23, 2023, 07:30:44 AM
Games that are having an EV negative will always have a long term loss profil, because of the house edge and because players never stop after a net win/profit.

Players are bound to lose at all games in the long run.

After all, they are designed in such a way to trigger the dopamine rush once you win.

Cleverly exploiting human nature, only the handful of strong-willed individuals could resist.

But hey, business is still business.


Title: Re: Are Casino Sites Cheating Us?
Post by: yudi09 on March 23, 2023, 07:41:49 AM
Often happens including to me from several sites that I have played. I will say if the gambling site has set a pattern for players.
If you play with a small amount of capital but slowly the balance increases while playing and you also raise the bet, it is natural that you lose because it is their capital.
It is better if it is like that, that is, never winning when playing with large bets, it means that your account is not suitable for large bets and stop for a while.


Title: Re: Are Casino Sites Cheating Us?
Post by: robelneo on March 23, 2023, 07:50:21 AM
Most of the time I play Blackjack & Dice.  I have always noticed that when I bet a large amount I am a loser when it comes to Dice.  Also in case of Blackjack when I bet big amount I get wrong card due to which I lose the bet. On the other hand when I bet small amount I win in case of Dice and if I bet small amount multiple times I win multiple times.  In Blackjack, when I bet small amounts, I am always get good cards and win the bets. Thus the cycle continues.  I have noticed that it is not an easy thing to withdraw from having achieved something great. I always gamble for fun with small amounts and lose them but I don't care. But I started playing blackjack yesterday with $1k and noticed that the casino sites are somehow cheating us. I lost my $1k yesterday. through Blackjack. What do you think about casino site algorithms?  Are they cheating with us?

How often are most of these times and how many casinos do you have this kind of results, you cannot generalize if it's only one casino and you have not done surveys for you to say that this is the case.
It should be consistent and it should be on many platforms and it includes the number of gamblers, just because you are losing you are questioning the results.

Check this article and asses if the casino you're playing right now is fair.

Quote
RNG is Random Number Generator a computer program used to generate random numbers. Employed in almost all online casino games, it ensures that the outcomes are genuinely random and unpredictable. In other words, players have no chance of knowing what will happen in advance.

To keep their games truly fair, trustworthy gambling sites use sophisticated RNGs that are audited and certified by reputable testing laboratories.

How Do Online Casinos Ensure Their Games Are Fair? (https://instagrid.me/rng-vs-provably-fair/)


Title: Re: Are Casino Sites Cheating Us?
Post by: Solosanz on March 23, 2023, 08:28:20 AM
A reputable and trusted casino wouldn't scam you, it's just a matter of luck. Usually when you're gamble using higher amount than you willing to lose, you will get a pressure and it force you to chase winning. But when you gamble with small amount money, you have nothing to lose and just play it. I think when you get pressured, you will not use all of your skill since you're always think with your money.


Title: Re: Are Casino Sites Cheating Us?
Post by: FatFork on March 23, 2023, 08:32:44 AM
I always gamble for fun with small amounts and lose them but I don't care. But I started playing blackjack yesterday with $1k and noticed that the casino sites are somehow cheating us. I lost my $1k yesterday. through Blackjack. What do you think about casino site algorithms?  Are they cheating with us?

I'm not so sure about that. Casino sites use random number generators and provably fair algorithms to ensure that games are fair and unbiased. It's just a matter of luck and probability. But, I think the key is to understand that the odds are always against you in gambling. That's why it's important to be aware of the risks and to gamble responsibly. The best way to avoid losing big is to just stick to small bets. That way, even if you lose, it won't be a huge blow to your bankroll.


Title: Re: Are Casino Sites Cheating Us?
Post by: coin-investor on March 23, 2023, 08:39:09 AM
You're just assuming without concrete shreds of evidence to back up your claim, gamblers are like that accusing casinos of cheating when they are losing, and when they are winning they boast that they have uncovered a secret method or developed their own method to continue winning.
You have to get the fact instead of assuming that you are being cheated check out the fairness and reputation of the casino you're playing its a big factor that you need to check, check out other casinos if you're getting the same results, online casinos are booming online business because there are people winning and there are people enjoying the game, if they are cheating and there's no winner in all casinos platform people will lose their trust and instead play on physical casinos.


Title: Re: Are Casino Sites Cheating Us?
Post by: ethereumhunter on March 23, 2023, 10:22:33 AM
Casinos can cheat you but if it's a trusted casino, I don't think the casino will still cheat you because it's about their reputation. And you should not have to think about the fraud that casinos do because it will interfere with your gambling time and you will not be able to enjoy it. If you don't want to lose much money, don't bet a lot, that's the key. But many people don't care about this and think that using a lot of money can provide an opportunity to get big wins.

Besides that, I don't know what the algorithm of the casino is because I don't really know about the algorithm. It's possible that their algorithm is the same as any other casino and it's just our luck that it doesn't come at the right time.


Title: Re: Are Casino Sites Cheating Us?
Post by: Yaunfitda on March 23, 2023, 10:24:54 AM
I think everyone of us here has been in that kind of situation before, we play with small amounts and then we win, but going bolder with huge amounts we lost the game. Most likely it's luck on us, or the casino could have set something in their end to make us win with small bets? to  give us the odds? Not sure though is this is true or not.

Regardless, still gambling and the risk is there, maybe there were times that even a small amount will not give you any winnings at all.

And as what the majority says, very hard to come up with such proof.


Title: Re: Are Casino Sites Cheating Us?
Post by: Finestream on March 23, 2023, 10:45:35 AM
Could be. However I don’t think any reputable casino needs these kinds of tricks to win our money. I think you were just unlucky. I know it because these big casinos are almost always use the same provable fair betting system where you can verify your seed/roll. If they were scamming us someone would have noticed it long time ago. The situation might be different on the newly established smaller online casinos though. Who knows what filth is hidden in their code…
It could be possible if you are gambling in an illegal casino but if you are in a reputable one, it’s hard to say they’re cheating simply because they won’t gain their reputation if they have been cheating ever since. Let’s just say you were never lucky that time, and those times you bet small amounts, the luck is all yours. Gambling outcome is always unpredictable, you will never know when you will lose or when you will win. But most of the time, it’s a loss since the house will always have an edge over us.


Title: Re: Are Casino Sites Cheating Us?
Post by: btc_angela on March 23, 2023, 11:03:50 AM
There is a fine line between losing and winning, and with that, we think of every excuse in the book if we are losing specially big money. Of course, if you are playing on a casino that is not established yet, so yeah, possible that you might think that way.

But if by chance you are playing like in a top tier casino's it's going to be hard to say that they are blatantly cheating their patrons. Because they won't get that 5 star rating from us if they have history like scam accusations and cheating itself.


Title: Re: Are Casino Sites Cheating Us?
Post by: rhomelmabini on March 23, 2023, 11:11:57 AM
I lost my $1k yesterday. through Blackjack. What do you think about casino site algorithms?  Are they cheating with us?
Then you should have bet small amounts rather than going nuts with your bets. How many days did you experience it? If it's only for a day then I think it's just coincidence but we may never know but if you think that casino is cheating on you then leave and find another one, not that difficult to find online casinos these days.


Title: Re: Are Casino Sites Cheating Us?
Post by: bakasabo on March 23, 2023, 11:19:10 AM
First of all, you should only blame yourself for that loss. It was your responsibility. Not casinos, algorithm, bad weather, sleepless night and etc. Casinos dont need to cheat to get gamblers money. Gamblers will lose them anyway. Casinos earn from every bet gamblers made, no matter if gamblers lose or win. They get their tiny percent anyway. And they dont need to ruin their reputation by cheating you for $1k, if they can get a cent from every bet thousands of gamblers make daily in their casino.


Title: Re: Are Casino Sites Cheating Us?
Post by: BobK71 on March 23, 2023, 11:25:08 AM
There is a fine line between losing and winning, and with that, we think of every excuse in the book if we are losing specially big money. Of course, if you are playing on a casino that is not established yet, so yeah, possible that you might think that way.

But if by chance you are playing like in a top tier casino's it's going to be hard to say that they are blatantly cheating their patrons. Because they won't get that 5 star rating from us if they have history like scam accusations and cheating itself.
A simple fact is that all the popular sites always try to conduct their business honestly. Because they think a gambler is their assets. No matter who are small or big gambler. They know well that even a small gambler can do them great harm. So their vision is equal to everyone. But there are some sites that try to scam with their client, but it's different. Good sites cannot be compared to those sites. In this case my advice would be to discard the site it would be doubtful. But should research well whether he is doing something wrong or not.


Title: Re: Are Casino Sites Cheating Us?
Post by: ultrloa on March 23, 2023, 11:43:56 AM
Most of the time I play Blackjack & Dice.  I have always noticed that when I bet a large amount I am a loser when it comes to Dice.  Also in case of Blackjack when I bet big amount I get wrong card due to which I lose the bet. On the other hand when I bet small amount I win in case of Dice and if I bet small amount multiple times I win multiple times.  In Blackjack, when I bet small amounts, I am always get good cards and win the bets. Thus the cycle continues.  I have noticed that it is not an easy thing to withdraw from having achieved something great. I always gamble for fun with small amounts and lose them but I don't care. But I started playing blackjack yesterday with $1k and noticed that the casino sites are somehow cheating us. I lost my $1k yesterday. through Blackjack. What do you think about casino site algorithms?  Are they cheating with us?

Well maybe depends on which site you are playing. Since its possible that they could cheat their user and put something on script that can make their players lose in the long run. But sometimes its just a mistake of the player since they are been to greedy to bet larger amount and think about winning a huge money for that round. There are times that we are out of luck so its normal that sometimes we think negative about that situation and maybe we should learn from this next time we play.


Title: Re: Are Casino Sites Cheating Us?
Post by: 348Judah on March 23, 2023, 12:00:28 PM
Casinos aren't cheating because gamblers also were found to be involved in many ways that could wrecked down a casino into bankruptcy by cheating on their website, so if you see dome casino website showing some kind of strictness is to guard against any infiltration of hack against their system wgich is now found common among gamblers today to always attempt cheating a casino, and if you suspect any casino also involved in cheating gamblers, then just make sure you avoid further deals in using the casino by going for another.


Title: Re: Are Casino Sites Cheating Us?
Post by: aioc on March 23, 2023, 12:01:57 PM
Most of the time I play Blackjack & Dice.  I have always noticed that when I bet a large amount I am a loser when it comes to Dice.  Also in case of Blackjack when I bet big amount I get wrong card due to which I lose the bet. On the other hand when I bet small amount I win in case of Dice and if I bet small amount multiple times I win multiple times.
This does not make any casino a cheater because you can check its fairness as long as it made available to you by the casino you're playing, if that is the case then do not bet a big amount of money just increase your bet when you are in winning bets, it will take 100 of bets for you to prove your assumption and play on at least 10 casinos.
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In Blackjack, when I bet small amounts, I am always get good cards and win the bets. Thus the cycle continues.  I have noticed that it is not an easy thing to withdraw from having achieved something great. I always gamble for fun with small amounts and lose them but I don't care. But I started playing blackjack yesterday with $1k and noticed that the casino sites are somehow cheating us. I lost my $1k yesterday. through Blackjack. What do you think about casino site algorithms?  Are they cheating with us?
You did not mention the name of the casino so they can address your concern or assumption but why are playing in a casino where you cannot verify its fairness, maybe you need to take time and come back a week later and check if you're still getting the same results on that casino or check other casinos, other gamblers are lucky on one casino over the other, if you're not sure of the casino you're playing then go on other casinos.


Title: Re: Are Casino Sites Cheating Us?
Post by: xSkylarx on March 23, 2023, 12:06:58 PM
I lost my $1k yesterday. through Blackjack. What do you think about casino site algorithms?  Are they cheating with us?
Then you should have bet small amounts rather than going nuts with your bets. How many days did you experience it? If it's only for a day then I think it's just coincidence but we may never know but if you think that casino is cheating on you then leave and find another one, not that difficult to find online casinos these days.

The problem is that how do you know if the casino is cheating? as most of us will think that they are cheating mostly when we lose big instead of thinking that gambling is luck and you'll be losing pretty big if you can't control yourself. But I do agree that if you feel cheated, then it is best to find another casino, and again, if that will happen again, then for sure you are the problem, as that is really how the casino works. That is why you should always gamble what you can afford to lose.


Title: Re: Are Casino Sites Cheating Us?
Post by: Cantsay on March 23, 2023, 12:29:00 PM
I haven't experienced it before because I haven't tried gambling with a large amount of money before. And I'm not sure if your claim is correct or not but I think since your playing again the system they could be a way for them to do something like that but I bet any casino will be willing to do because if they are eventually caught that could be the end of their business.
As long as it's something that can be tempered with by the dev team then it's possible for them to do. I'm not saying that they do engage in such an act but to be on the safer side make sure you use little amount to wager since you always win everytime you place a bet with small amount. 


Title: Re: Are Casino Sites Cheating Us?
Post by: Wexnident on March 23, 2023, 12:38:54 PM
Most of the time I play Blackjack & Dice.  I have always noticed that when I bet a large amount I am a loser when it comes to Dice.  Also in case of Blackjack when I bet big amount I get wrong card due to which I lose the bet. On the other hand when I bet small amount I win in case of Dice and if I bet small amount multiple times I win multiple times.  In Blackjack, when I bet small amounts, I am always get good cards and win the bets. Thus the cycle continues.  I have noticed that it is not an easy thing to withdraw from having achieved something great. I always gamble for fun with small amounts and lose them but I don't care. But I started playing blackjack yesterday with $1k and noticed that the casino sites are somehow cheating us. I lost my $1k yesterday. through Blackjack. What do you think about casino site algorithms?  Are they cheating with us?
Technically we're always cheated by casinos (and we willingly agree to it though) with their house edge but the issue seems to be another thing here. I wouldn't call it an issue though, you just got unlucky simple as that. If you want to go nitty gritty about the details, small amounts of bets basically increase the number of games you can play, which also spreads out the chances of you winning and losing more compared to one big win. I mean, in cases of a 100 matches with a 50/50 chance, if you lost the first but won the rest, then that's good right? But what if you bet big and lost everything on the first one? It's simple logic like that. Wouldn't call it a cheat, just how it goes when it comes to luck.


Title: Re: Are Casino Sites Cheating Us?
Post by: pawanjain on March 23, 2023, 01:17:36 PM
Most of the time I play Blackjack & Dice.  I have always noticed that when I bet a large amount I am a loser when it comes to Dice.  Also in case of Blackjack when I bet big amount I get wrong card due to which I lose the bet. On the other hand when I bet small amount I win in case of Dice and if I bet small amount multiple times I win multiple times.  In Blackjack, when I bet small amounts, I am always get good cards and win the bets. Thus the cycle continues.  I have noticed that it is not an easy thing to withdraw from having achieved something great. I always gamble for fun with small amounts and lose them but I don't care. But I started playing blackjack yesterday with $1k and noticed that the casino sites are somehow cheating us. I lost my $1k yesterday. through Blackjack. What do you think about casino site algorithms?  Are they cheating with us?

It depends on which site you are gambling on and if that site is using provably fair algorithm where you can verify the output yourself.
If they are not doing it then there are chances that the site might be cheating you.
How did you lose all the $1k in just one day. At least you should have played with 25% of the amount and kept the rest for other days.
Sometimes it's just about the luck. It work one day and it might not on others.
With 25% amount you could have tried your luck on 4 days and go to know if the site is really cheating you or not.


Title: Re: Are Casino Sites Cheating Us?
Post by: rhomelmabini on March 23, 2023, 01:29:03 PM
I lost my $1k yesterday. through Blackjack. What do you think about casino site algorithms?  Are they cheating with us?
Then you should have bet small amounts rather than going nuts with your bets. How many days did you experience it? If it's only for a day then I think it's just coincidence but we may never know but if you think that casino is cheating on you then leave and find another one, not that difficult to find online casinos these days.
The problem is that how do you know if the casino is cheating? as most of us will think that they are cheating mostly when we lose big instead of thinking that gambling is luck and you'll be losing pretty big if you can't control yourself. But I do agree that if you feel cheated, then it is best to find another casino, and again, if that will happen again, then for sure you are the problem, as that is really how the casino works. That is why you should always gamble what you can afford to lose.
That's my question too, it's not easy to spot or you wouldn't see anything at all. I think it's just a coincidence on the OP's side and not totally the fault at casinos, if you're gambling with game of chance then you would know it depends on the multiplier you're using or same thing.


Title: Re: Are Casino Sites Cheating Us?
Post by: passwordnow on March 23, 2023, 01:54:09 PM
Just stay betting with smaller amounts if you've been lucky with that. That's the strategy that you must do because you've noticed that whenever you bet big amounts, luck isn't with you. Yeah, maybe there's something to do with the algorithm and we can't do anything against it as we're playing against the house. So, if you're lucky enough playing with smaller amounts and that's giving you the win then there's no reason for you to change ways and it's the reason why it's best for you to just bet with smaller amounts and go with a mile of wins with it.


Title: Re: Are Casino Sites Cheating Us?
Post by: Eureka_07 on March 23, 2023, 02:23:56 PM
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Be mindful that the algorithm was made intentionally to the casinos' advantage. We can only call them cheating if we have proved that they do. AFAIK, games does have server seeds which you can use to analyze if the game is fair or not.


Title: Re: Are Casino Sites Cheating Us?
Post by: Rruchi man on March 23, 2023, 02:26:54 PM
What do you think about casino site algorithms?  Are they cheating with us?
As you lost to the algorithm, you will be surprised how many people won the algorithm and not just in little amounts but huge sums. Casino site algorithms are difficult to bet because your chances of winning against the house is always lesser than the chances of the algorithm beating you. Do not feel cheated because you have lost, maybe you should try other games or try to understand the game and study more about the game you play.

Blackjack which is the game you mentioned OP is based on skill, If you sharpen up your skills, maybe you will do better.


Title: Re: Are Casino Sites Cheating Us?
Post by: nimogsm on March 23, 2023, 02:33:17 PM
I think you have such thoughts only because you lost a good amount in one evening.Here, correctly, the topic says that you need to take into account the risk of management and be prepared to lose the amount.Gambling has a luck factor and that's it.You just have better luck next time.And casinos that have a reputation won't deal with problems for players because they won't come back to play again.


Title: Re: Are Casino Sites Cheating Us?
Post by: Yatsan on March 23, 2023, 02:43:06 PM
Point here is, winning will never be certain especially for games wherein luck is the baseline. Manage your bets in a way that won't hurt your pocket totally. Betting efficiently will save you from regrets. Also, keep in mind that this industry doesn't revolve around you alone. If you lose an amount big on your end, how sure are you that others are not? There's no cheating in this scenario; you're just unlucky and somewhat a hard bettor. Pushing your way to win will never be advisable 'coz it has a higher tendency to result into bigger losses. Sites are only cheating if no one really wins the game, also, you have the rights to move to another platform if this is the case than to wait for the platform itself to adjust and put things in favor on your end.


Title: Re: Are Casino Sites Cheating Us?
Post by: CarnagexD on March 23, 2023, 02:56:45 PM
They're not. Are they taking advantage of the gamblers putting so much money in their bets? Yes. We can't deny that gamblers have their behavioral patters in playing and casinos have learned using it at their advantage. Letting gamblers win temporiraly is nothing compared when gamblers start to put more bets hoping to win more.

I think everyone of us here has been in that kind of situation before, we play with small amounts and then we win, but going bolder with huge amounts we lost the game. Most likely it's luck on us, or the casino could have set something in their end to make us win with small bets? to  give us the odds? Not sure though is this is true or not.

Regardless, still gambling and the risk is there, maybe there were times that even a small amount will not give you any winnings at all.


Risks will always be there but luck won't. So I think the best way to be disciplined in playing is sticking in your budget and enjoy your game. If you find yourself losing games in a row, try not to continue playing irrationally just to get a return of your money.


Title: Re: Are Casino Sites Cheating Us?
Post by: TopTort777 on March 23, 2023, 03:06:22 PM
Of course they cheat. Every time you lose - because they cheat. Every time you win - casinos admin must have alt+tab'ed to other gambler and missed your bet. But dont worry, they will fix that omission next time :D

But to be honest, it was your fault that you have lost your thousand. Like you have said, at the beginning everything was well, until greed hits you and you have started to place larger bets. Why dont you make an experiment, make 100 tiny bets and 100 large bets and compare win/lose ration. The more bets you make, the more correct the result will be. If the ration difference between small/large bets will be huge, then it will be your proof that casinos cheat.


Title: Re: Are Casino Sites Cheating Us?
Post by: Johnyz on March 23, 2023, 03:12:15 PM
Of course they cheat. Every time you lose - because they cheat. Every time you win - casinos admin must have alt+tab'ed to other gambler and missed your bet. But dont worry, they will fix that omission next time :D

But to be honest, it was your fault that you have lost your thousand. Like you have said, at the beginning everything was well, until greed hits you and you have started to place larger bets. Why dont you make an experiment, make 100 tiny bets and 100 large bets and compare win/lose ration. The more bets you make, the more correct the result will be. If the ration difference between small/large bets will be huge, then it will be your proof that casinos cheat.
They created the system for them to win, so what we can expect from the house?
If you don't want to lose money then don't gamble, because this is a purely based on luck so don't expect that much. I don't know why do you the site is cheating against us when if fact its your own choice to gamble not unless you are using unfamiliar site which I believe can be more prone to cheating and manipulation.


Title: Re: Are Casino Sites Cheating Us?
Post by: goldkingcoiner on March 23, 2023, 03:54:41 PM
Most of the time I play Blackjack & Dice.  I have always noticed that when I bet a large amount I am a loser when it comes to Dice.  Also in case of Blackjack when I bet big amount I get wrong card due to which I lose the bet. On the other hand when I bet small amount I win in case of Dice and if I bet small amount multiple times I win multiple times.  In Blackjack, when I bet small amounts, I am always get good cards and win the bets. Thus the cycle continues.  I have noticed that it is not an easy thing to withdraw from having achieved something great. I always gamble for fun with small amounts and lose them but I don't care. But I started playing blackjack yesterday with $1k and noticed that the casino sites are somehow cheating us. I lost my $1k yesterday. through Blackjack. What do you think about casino site algorithms?  Are they cheating with us?

Which online gambling casino exactly are you talking about? Because if its some small, unknown, shady casino with a questionable reputation, then perhaps yes. But if its a legitimate casino with a good reputation then I doubt they would cheat you like that. Its too obvious a cheat for such a big, established business to do. It would be financial suicide for them.

I think what happened is you got really unlucky and started connecting coincidences with things that are not necessarily true. Otherwise there would be more people noticing such things and more people would be complaining.


Title: Re: Are Casino Sites Cheating Us?
Post by: virasisog on March 23, 2023, 04:22:48 PM
I don't think you're being cheated because what you're facing is the real risk of gambling. Losing will always be a part of the gambling journey no matter how big or small your bet is. It's just that you can't expect to win over the house always. If you are experiencing losses every time you bet a huge amount, then try to change your strategy. There might be a more effective strategy that you can apply. Try to explore more but be sure to play at a reputable casino.


Title: Re: Are Casino Sites Cheating Us?
Post by: panganib999 on March 23, 2023, 05:34:18 PM
Reputable casinos wouldn't resort to this type of one-upping for the very reason that they don't need to. The game is already stacked against the player and all they just had to do is operate it so why would they make the game even harder to win at and potentially destroy their reputation from their potential users and current customers right?

So in that regard, ask yourself, Am I playing in a reputable casino? Will the casino I play in really go so low as to cheat on its players to secure big bags despite the fact that the games they already have here are stacked against the player? If your answer is yes to the second question, time to avoid that gambling site and switch up for another.


Title: Re: Are Casino Sites Cheating Us?
Post by: bittraffic on March 23, 2023, 05:48:56 PM

I have the same feeling whenever I lose money out o the dice games. It felt like they are just watching us play their games.  The minimum bet for some dice is $0.10, I'm quite earning by just betting the minimum so I thought maybe if I start my martingale with $1, I'd win more. And then suddenly in a few losing streaks, the money is gone. Not sure what to come up with it so avoiding the dice is what I'm doing.  :D


Title: Re: Are Casino Sites Cheating Us?
Post by: Casdinyard on March 23, 2023, 06:39:08 PM

I have the same feeling whenever I lose money out o the dice games. It felt like they are just watching us play their games.  The minimum bet for some dice is $0.10, I'm quite earning by just betting the minimum so I thought maybe if I start my martingale with $1, I'd win more. And then suddenly in a few losing streaks, the money is gone. Not sure what to come up with it so avoiding the dice is what I'm doing.  :D
I think this has been a common looming suspicion every gambler experienced at least once or twice in their lives. I've been a part of it too, even went so far as to create two accounts in my old gambling site just to test my theory and compare results only to find out that I was indeed wrong because on some of the games I lost considerably, I won big on the other, and vice versa. So, does this mean that this is not something that the casinos could do? Absolutely not, I do think there are some shady ones out there that do this stuff under the gambler's noses. But you can bet your bottom dollar no reputable casino would do this, for the sole reason that this could lead to them driving their customers and patrons away, just like what the other guy said.


Title: Re: Are Casino Sites Cheating Us?
Post by: Fivestar4everMVP on March 23, 2023, 07:06:39 PM
But I started playing blackjack yesterday with $1k and noticed that the casino sites are somehow cheating us. I lost my $1k yesterday. through Blackjack. What do you think about casino site algorithms?  Are they cheating with us?
There are several times I've felt exactly this way, and like you , it's after having lost some significant amount of money to casino games..

The assumptions that casino are some how cheating us could be true, but I wouldn't want to believe that it's every casino, for all I know, there are still some really good and reputable casinos out there with a very provably fair system, but where the problems is is that, every casino claim to have a provably fair system, it becomes really hard to separate the wheat from the chaff..

I think the solution to this is for one to find a casino he or she really trust, and stick to playing there, this is what I think.


Title: Re: Are Casino Sites Cheating Us?
Post by: YOSHIE on March 23, 2023, 07:12:45 PM
What do you think about casino site algorithms?  Are they cheating with us?
Well, cases like that are often experienced by most gamblers, I'm sure almost the average person experiences a case like what you are experiencing.

My bad experience. That happened in one of the slot games, when I bet my bonus I won, almost on average in every slot I played I experienced luck, however, when I make a large deposit and play in the same or a different slot, bad luck will strike, consecutive losses, strange. It seems I'm being watched and stalked by online casino dealers, they don't let me experience luck.

Yes, I believe that it is like a program Algorithm concept that has been programmed by casinos / individuals, they don't let us win. We really have to watch them off guard or fall asleep to re-bet after a big deposit within 2-3 days, to catch the luck.


Title: Re: Are Casino Sites Cheating Us?
Post by: Fortify on March 23, 2023, 07:46:20 PM
Most of the time I play Blackjack & Dice.  I have always noticed that when I bet a large amount I am a loser when it comes to Dice.  Also in case of Blackjack when I bet big amount I get wrong card due to which I lose the bet. On the other hand when I bet small amount I win in case of Dice and if I bet small amount multiple times I win multiple times.  In Blackjack, when I bet small amounts, I am always get good cards and win the bets. Thus the cycle continues.  I have noticed that it is not an easy thing to withdraw from having achieved something great. I always gamble for fun with small amounts and lose them but I don't care. But I started playing blackjack yesterday with $1k and noticed that the casino sites are somehow cheating us. I lost my $1k yesterday. through Blackjack. What do you think about casino site algorithms?  Are they cheating with us?

Surely in the scenario you've described, why would you not keep betting small - if you supposedly win off them, or just keep your betting pattern consistent. It's not like you have any control over the outcome of the game, you think that somehow controlling the bet amount means you can predict the outcomes. If you are betting bigger amounts and losing it is going to sting a lot more, so that becomes more memorable and your small bets become more cloudy. I think it's obscene to blow through $1,000 in a day on a website which tells you that the house has the advantage, it means that given a long enough time period they will take every penny of your money and they have done just that.


Title: Re: Are Casino Sites Cheating Us?
Post by: goaldigger on March 23, 2023, 08:14:00 PM
Cheating might not be the right word for this, but casinos have control over those system and they are using this in favor to them.
Though some site hire third party for this, but I'm sure they will not allow gamblers to win that much. Some will win and some will lose the money, this is how gambling works and even a reputable site have their own dark side when it comes to their system. All you can do is to enjoy playing, and ignore those issues because a good site will be more fun to play as it can be rewarding especially with bonuses.


Title: Re: Are Casino Sites Cheating Us?
Post by: stomachgrowls on March 23, 2023, 08:23:42 PM
Most of the time I play Blackjack & Dice.  I have always noticed that when I bet a large amount I am a loser when it comes to Dice.  Also in case of Blackjack when I bet big amount I get wrong card due to which I lose the bet. On the other hand when I bet small amount I win in case of Dice and if I bet small amount multiple times I win multiple times.  In Blackjack, when I bet small amounts, I am always get good cards and win the bets. Thus the cycle continues.  I have noticed that it is not an easy thing to withdraw from having achieved something great. I always gamble for fun with small amounts and lose them but I don't care. But I started playing blackjack yesterday with $1k and noticed that the casino sites are somehow cheating us. I lost my $1k yesterday. through Blackjack. What do you think about casino site algorithms?  Are they cheating with us?
Depending on which site you are playing on but it is unlikely if you do stick into a known one for them to cheat whenever you do have a big bankroll or allocation but who knows right? If you do able to notice out those

notable differences when it comes to outcomes then why wont stick out on smaller bets and make up some wins rather than on pushing yourself on trying to prove out and make use of huge ones?

It is really that hard to make out some conclusions in regarding to this considering that gambling do always means about losing for long term or runs which its never been that recommendable if you are
really trying to pursue out on making money which is really that a bad idea.


Title: Re: Are Casino Sites Cheating Us?
Post by: ChiBitCTy on March 23, 2023, 08:28:47 PM
The truth is none of us really know.  I know there are some sites/games that they say are provably fair, but I'm still not so sure that is the case.  It's the same thing when you go to visit casinos in person whether that's at some place like Las Vegas or Lake Tahoe.  I just don't think there's truly any way for us to know if the games we're playing are actually not cheating us.  I would lean toward the latter, that they are..but I of course have no proof of this.


Title: Re: Are Casino Sites Cheating Us?
Post by: lizarder on March 23, 2023, 08:34:28 PM
What do you think about casino site algorithms?  Are they cheating with us?
Cases like this happen in all casino sites not only Blackjack & Dice, for reputable casinos it's impossible to cheat in this way, but in cases like you describe I think it's just a matter of luck. Simply put you are against the system, so it could be that you are unlucky on the bet or the card you have is not the card needed to win the bet.

Regarding large and small bets, they are basically the same, you will get more curious and try to play many times even if you lose, that's why most people say gambling is closely related to addiction, especially if someone can't control it and this will only make it worse.


Title: Re: Are Casino Sites Cheating Us?
Post by: dunfida on March 23, 2023, 08:47:01 PM
The truth is none of us really know.  I know there are some sites/games that they say are provably fair, but I'm still not so sure that is the case.  It's the same thing when you go to visit casinos in person whether that's at some place like Las Vegas or Lake Tahoe.  I just don't think there's truly any way for us to know if the games we're playing are actually not cheating us.  I would lean toward the latter, that they are..but I of course have no proof of this.
If there's a proof then for sure you would be throwing up some accusations which is likely for someone to do so.THere's no way we could really be able to prove out that they are really scamming us but one things for sure that we do always lose in the end specially into those people who do gamble up on long sessions which the house would be always having the advantage.This is why when we do gamble then its better to stick out
into those reputable places or known ones which you can somewhat assure that you are dealing with something that scamming out their users.There might be some possible alterations or non-fair acts
but there's no way that we could be able to prove it out.


Title: Re: Are Casino Sites Cheating Us?
Post by: Russlenat on March 23, 2023, 08:54:02 PM
Most of the time I play Blackjack & Dice.  I have always noticed that when I bet a large amount I am a loser when it comes to Dice.  Also in case of Blackjack when I bet big amount I get wrong card due to which I lose the bet. On the other hand when I bet small amount I win in case of Dice and if I bet small amount multiple times I win multiple times.  In Blackjack, when I bet small amounts, I am always get good cards and win the bets. Thus the cycle continues.  I have noticed that it is not an easy thing to withdraw from having achieved something great. I always gamble for fun with small amounts and lose them but I don't care. But I started playing blackjack yesterday with $1k and noticed that the casino sites are somehow cheating us. I lost my $1k yesterday. through Blackjack. What do you think about casino site algorithms?  Are they cheating with us?

It depends on which site you are gambling on and if that site is using provably fair algorithm where you can verify the output yourself.
If they are not doing it then there are chances that the site might be cheating you.
How did you lose all the $1k in just one day. At least you should have played with 25% of the amount and kept the rest for other days.
Sometimes it's just about the luck. It work one day and it might not on others.
With 25% amount you could have tried your luck on 4 days and go to know if the site is really cheating you or not.
Betting all in is never advisable if you can’t afford to lose it, as gambling never guarantees you to win in the end. Maybe cheating is really possible in some casinos but we can’t really tell as to how it can be done as most of the casino these days have already adopted a provably fair games that will allow the players to verify the fairness of their bets. So it’s hard to tell if there is really cheating or it’s only you who have suspected that there’s any. However, if you gamble responsibly at the beginning, you will never experience a huge loss.


Title: Re: Are Casino Sites Cheating Us?
Post by: o48o on March 23, 2023, 09:21:46 PM
Most of the time I play Blackjack & Dice.  I have always noticed that when I bet a large amount I am a loser when it comes to Dice.  Also in case of Blackjack when I bet big amount I get wrong card due to which I lose the bet. On the other hand when I bet small amount I win in case of Dice and if I bet small amount multiple times I win multiple times.  In Blackjack, when I bet small amounts, I am always get good cards and win the bets. Thus the cycle continues.  I have noticed that it is not an easy thing to withdraw from having achieved something great. I always gamble for fun with small amounts and lose them but I don't care. But I started playing blackjack yesterday with $1k and noticed that the casino sites are somehow cheating us. I lost my $1k yesterday. through Blackjack. What do you think about casino site algorithms?  Are they cheating with us?
I am not sure where you play but that sounds like a confirmation bias as you are vague on the stats and haven't included any data. Not that sampling wouldn't be big enough to jump any conclusions anyway.

If a game would be rigged, it would be noticed by ton of players and whales wouldn't just play that game if they were losing all the time, so it wouldn't make any sense for casino to implement such a cheat system. Also casinos get audited and that kind of anomaly would show up in total stats.


Title: Re: Are Casino Sites Cheating Us?
Post by: seleme on March 23, 2023, 09:25:00 PM
I doubt both live Blakcjack and the provably fair version are rigged, the provably fairness lets you confirm the bet results aka cards with simple verify tools. Regarding live game shows, audits have published the results public and you can check how fair these games are on specific platforms, IIRC. In provably fair Blackjack games, bet amount has no influence over the bet result so you will get same cards on $10k or $0 bets.


Title: Re: Are Casino Sites Cheating Us?
Post by: crzy on March 23, 2023, 09:33:38 PM
Losing doesn't mean the site is cheating, this is how gambling works and probably you made a mistake with your bet or its really a bad day for you. This is gambling, losing are more possible than winning and this is not cheating, gambling is a business so expect that you will not always win. If you are using the best site, you can have a peace of mind about its fairness since it is already a proven site, what you can do is try to know if the site is being fair or have any issues, if you find any better to leave that site and look for a good one.


Title: Re: Are Casino Sites Cheating Us?
Post by: qwertyup23 on March 23, 2023, 09:36:53 PM
But I started playing blackjack yesterday with $1k and noticed that the casino sites are somehow cheating us. I lost my $1k yesterday. through Blackjack. What do you think about casino site algorithms?  Are they cheating with us?

I think you are just unlucky with your draws. Again, this is gambling and any outcome is possible given the circumstances of what you are betting. If you have noticed this kind of pattern on your bets, then why continue to bet huge amounts in the first place? In addition, if you suspect that an online casino is allegedly "cheating", then post all the necessary proof to substantiate your claim.

Lastly, I also want to point out that any issues with a certain gambling website should be fixed by simply switching to another online casino. There are lots of online casinos available and some offer better bonuses/rewards as compared to the others.


Title: Re: Are Casino Sites Cheating Us?
Post by: madnessteat on March 23, 2023, 09:44:44 PM
~snip~

Casino gambling algorithms are set up so that the casino will always have an advantage over the players, so the casino owners do not even need to cheat to make money. Gamblers are well aware of this but still gamble. Also, the algorithm has an incentive task - a large but fairly rare winnings, which entice us to play again and again.


Title: Re: Are Casino Sites Cheating Us?
Post by: Oceat on March 23, 2023, 09:53:39 PM
Losing doesn't mean the site is cheating, this is how gambling works and probably you made a mistake with your bet or its really a bad day for you. This is gambling, losing are more possible than winning and this is not cheating, gambling is a business so expect that you will not always win. If you are using the best site, you can have a peace of mind about its fairness since it is already a proven site, what you can do is try to know if the site is being fair or have any issues, if you find any better to leave that site and look for a good one.
We can't tell what exactly is happening and what sites or platform the OP been using but it all depends on what algorithm or codes that casino have been using. So what if they actually do add some stuff on the codes everytime you bet large amount the higher the chances their platform will win? Ever think about that before?

If it's a legit or reputable casino perhaps this won't be a problem to OP but who knows? Casinos/gambling is designed to actually make the owner win most of the time and not the other way around.


Title: Re: Are Casino Sites Cheating Us?
Post by: TimeTeller on March 23, 2023, 09:56:40 PM
Losing doesn't mean the site is cheating, this is how gambling works and probably you made a mistake with your bet or its really a bad day for you. This is gambling, losing are more possible than winning and this is not cheating, gambling is a business so expect that you will not always win. If you are using the best site, you can have a peace of mind about its fairness since it is already a proven site, what you can do is try to know if the site is being fair or have any issues, if you find any better to leave that site and look for a good one.
We can't tell what exactly is happening and what sites or platform the OP been using but it all depends on what algorithm or codes that casino have been using. So what if they actually do add some stuff on the codes everytime you bet large amount the higher the chances their platform will win? Ever think about that before?

If it's a legit or reputable casino perhaps this won't be a problem to OP but who knows? Casinos/gambling is designed to actually make the owner win most of the time and not the other way around.

The very reason why it is always advisable to play on a reputable casino.
Because if they are known to be one, they won't make a mistake of cheating their players.
As they will be discovered by any of their players. And if it is out in the community, their business is screwed.
There are some silent users who will do the work of investigating the casino, and they will only disclose it once they found the loophole inside.


Title: Re: Are Casino Sites Cheating Us?
Post by: coinerer on March 23, 2023, 10:31:15 PM
Most of the time I play Blackjack & Dice.  I have always noticed that when I bet a large amount I am a loser when it comes to Dice.  Also in case of Blackjack when I bet big amount I get wrong card due to which I lose the bet. On the other hand when I bet small amount I win in case of Dice and if I bet small amount multiple times I win multiple times.  In Blackjack, when I bet small amounts, I am always get good cards and win the bets. Thus the cycle continues.  I have noticed that it is not an easy thing to withdraw from having achieved something great. I always gamble for fun with small amounts and lose them but I don't care. But I started playing blackjack yesterday with $1k and noticed that the casino sites are somehow cheating us. I lost my $1k yesterday. through Blackjack. What do you think about casino site algorithms?  Are they cheating with us?
If you have it since evening that they are cheating with you.  Then you can play live casino from stake.com where your favorite Blackjack is also available. There you will see the dealer live and several other gamblers like you will be playing together at the same table as you.  So in this case you don't have to play against any system. In this case it is unlikely that you will have any doubts that they are cheating with you. Yes but there is no way to avoid that when you play against a system that casino site can cheat you through their complex algorithm or some secret coding.


Title: Re: Are Casino Sites Cheating Us?
Post by: Sandra_hakeem on March 23, 2023, 10:46:18 PM
It's not anything too different from the normal happenings..
I seemed to have observed that too, along time ago...when gamblers will plece a stake with say - 10k and the outcome might be 4700 - even though the game was a win....That's usually as a result of the combos, then it's also the time for the casinos to make alot of profits even when you keep winning.
On the other hand, I think it's manually controlled atimes (or atleast it's programmed not to work too much in favor of the bettors, that's a STOPLOSS function) to avoid too much loss; we all know that in any business, if you have 'em losses More, then you're actually losing woefully.

Sandra 🧑‍🦰


Title: Re: Are Casino Sites Cheating Us?
Post by: stomachgrowls on March 23, 2023, 10:46:40 PM
Losing doesn't mean the site is cheating, this is how gambling works and probably you made a mistake with your bet or its really a bad day for you. This is gambling, losing are more possible than winning and this is not cheating, gambling is a business so expect that you will not always win. If you are using the best site, you can have a peace of mind about its fairness since it is already a proven site, what you can do is try to know if the site is being fair or have any issues, if you find any better to leave that site and look for a good one.
We can't tell what exactly is happening and what sites or platform the OP been using but it all depends on what algorithm or codes that casino have been using. So what if they actually do add some stuff on the codes everytime you bet large amount the higher the chances their platform will win? Ever think about that before?

If it's a legit or reputable casino perhaps this won't be a problem to OP but who knows? Casinos/gambling is designed to actually make the owner win most of the time and not the other way around.

The very reason why it is always advisable to play on a reputable casino.
Because if they are known to be one, they won't make a mistake of cheating their players.
As they will be discovered by any of their players. And if it is out in the community, their business is screwed.
There are some silent users who will do the work of investigating the casino, and they will only disclose it once they found the loophole inside.
Why people cant just stick out on reputable casinos rather than on sticking into those new ones or not so popular? People do end up on being scammed or really make unfair losses due into those
curiosity on testing out those sites.They arent automatically considered to be shady but it would be always advisable that you should really be that sticking into known ones.
We cant really make out conclusions if casinos are cheating on us or really that totally fair but you would really be not minding on things if you do just just simply stick
out on what are those current popular places.


Title: Re: Are Casino Sites Cheating Us?
Post by: noormcs5 on March 23, 2023, 10:59:47 PM
The truth is none of us really know.  I know there are some sites/games that they say are provably fair, but I'm still not so sure that is the case.  It's the same thing when you go to visit casinos in person whether that's at some place like Las Vegas or Lake Tahoe.  I just don't think there's truly any way for us to know if the games we're playing are actually not cheating us.  I would lean toward the latter, that they are..but I of course have no proof of this.

Well the good trusted gambling sites will always give you proof that the games are provably fair and you can check them at their sites. We should only play at sites where we are sure the games are provably fair. In case you play at a casino where you have doubt of provably fair games, you are likely to lose all your money.


Title: Re: Are Casino Sites Cheating Us?
Post by: Baofeng on March 23, 2023, 11:29:42 PM
Most of the time I play Blackjack & Dice.  I have always noticed that when I bet a large amount I am a loser when it comes to Dice.  Also in case of Blackjack when I bet big amount I get wrong card due to which I lose the bet. On the other hand when I bet small amount I win in case of Dice and if I bet small amount multiple times I win multiple times.  In Blackjack, when I bet small amounts, I am always get good cards and win the bets. Thus the cycle continues.  I have noticed that it is not an easy thing to withdraw from having achieved something great. I always gamble for fun with small amounts and lose them but I don't care. But I started playing blackjack yesterday with $1k and noticed that the casino sites are somehow cheating us. I lost my $1k yesterday. through Blackjack. What do you think about casino site algorithms?  Are they cheating with us?

I know the feeling mate, when we lost big we always think that we are getting cheated or we just made a bad decision that why we lost our money. Not sure though, it is live betting with a dealer in BlackJack? Not blaming you or something, because I also fall for this, like betting small and then have a good win, but increasing my bet? bad decision. So most of the time specially if my bankroll is getting smaller, I will go back to that small bets again and hope that my luck will return and at least get my capital back + some winnings. That has been my strategy though in the last couple of days, but it is a slot machine games. Same experience, small bets = good win, bigger bets = bad run. So what do I do?, go back to betting small.


Title: Re: Are Casino Sites Cheating Us?
Post by: goinmerry on March 23, 2023, 11:59:13 PM
The truth is none of us really know.  I know there are some sites/games that they say are provably fair, but I'm still not so sure that is the case.  It's the same thing when you go to visit casinos in person whether that's at some place like Las Vegas or Lake Tahoe.  I just don't think there's truly any way for us to know if the games we're playing are actually not cheating us.  I would lean toward the latter, that they are..but I of course have no proof of this.

And since no way to really knows the truth about being fair, what we need to rely on is the site's reputation.

Not saying these reputable sites won't cheat but at least these big sites really care for their business not to be ruined by some cheating issues.

The reason why I never consider playing on a new site until such time that they are able to establish some good reviews.


Title: Re: Are Casino Sites Cheating Us?
Post by: Volgastallion on March 24, 2023, 12:03:20 AM
I think everyone who bet always had that feeling in his mind, for that a lot of players always play big, i know you have to have the money to do so but with this thinking also comes another.

Imagine you make a bet in crash and that bet reach x5000 if you put only 10c always in your head you are gonna think, "imagine/look if i was put 10 dollars".

But yes i also think in someway if its a trash/shady casino maybe they can know how much you bet and make some strange movements.

In fact we also have to think the other way, are you gonna still paying in a casino who always make you lose big? I dont think so, so its not so easy.


Title: Re: Are Casino Sites Cheating Us?
Post by: alegotardo on March 24, 2023, 12:57:02 AM
Most of the time I play Blackjack & Dice.  I have always noticed that when I bet a large amount I am a loser when it comes to Dice.  Also in case of Blackjack when I bet big amount I get wrong card due to which I lose the bet. On the other hand when I bet small amount I win in case of Dice and if I bet small amount multiple times I win multiple times.  In Blackjack, when I bet small amounts, I am always get good cards and win the bets. Thus the cycle continues.  I have noticed that it is not an easy thing to withdraw from having achieved something great. I always gamble for fun with small amounts and lose them but I don't care. But I started playing blackjack yesterday with $1k and noticed that the casino sites are somehow cheating us. I lost my $1k yesterday. through Blackjack. What do you think about casino site algorithms?  Are they cheating with us?

I think you're just unlucky.
I don't know which casinos you're playing at, because you didn't mention it, but if you're going to play at respected casinos with a good reputation, I think it's sooo hard for them to rob you because they run the risk of having their reputation tarnished and losing much more money than if they were going to play legally without robbing players.
Cassionos are highly profitable for website owners, I see no reason for them to rip you off.

Take a test, always betting similar amounts and write down your bets, gains and losses. Gradually increase this value and see if the gain pattern holds.

Important! you need to take a long sampling period as short bets can be very volatile.


Title: Re: Are Casino Sites Cheating Us?
Post by: traderethereum on March 24, 2023, 04:33:11 AM
I think everyone who bet always had that feeling in his mind, for that a lot of players always play big, i know you have to have the money to do so but with this thinking also comes another.

Imagine you make a bet in crash and that bet reach x5000 if you put only 10c always in your head you are gonna think, "imagine/look if i was put 10 dollars".

But yes i also think in someway if its a trash/shady casino maybe they can know how much you bet and make some strange movements.

In fact we also have to think the other way, are you gonna still paying in a casino who always make you lose big? I dont think so, so its not so easy.
As long as the casino is reputable, we don't have to worry if the casino wants to cheat its members.
The casino will always maintain its reputation and try to be transparent with everything not to arouse suspicion in its members.
We have no proof of this and it's difficult to prove so we can only accept it.
And if we want to try a new casino, we should be very careful because we don't know what the casino will become.
But I think it's true that some casinos intend to cheat their members and hopefully we will never experience that.


Title: Re: Are Casino Sites Cheating Us?
Post by: retreat on March 24, 2023, 06:17:46 AM
Most of the time I play Blackjack & Dice.  I have always noticed that when I bet a large amount I am a loser when it comes to Dice.  Also in case of Blackjack when I bet big amount I get wrong card due to which I lose the bet. On the other hand when I bet small amount I win in case of Dice and if I bet small amount multiple times I win multiple times.  In Blackjack, when I bet small amounts, I am always get good cards and win the bets. Thus the cycle continues.  I have noticed that it is not an easy thing to withdraw from having achieved something great. I always gamble for fun with small amounts and lose them but I don't care. But I started playing blackjack yesterday with $1k and noticed that the casino sites are somehow cheating us. I lost my $1k yesterday. through Blackjack. What do you think about casino site algorithms?  Are they cheating with us?

What do you mean by deceiving? what the casino platform is doing is not deceiving its users at all, they are just adjusting the probability level of their games to be able to make their ecosystem healthier. Just imagine if there were more winning players in a casino than losers, that would certainly bankrupt the casino platform in a short time. There are many things that are considered by casino platforms to maintain their business and if we look at it from a business perspective there is nothing wrong with that.


Title: Re: Are Casino Sites Cheating Us?
Post by: Fiatless on March 24, 2023, 07:43:02 AM
I don't think that is called cheating. That is called probability! The house knows that you will start with small bets and gradually move into big amount. When you place a big bet after winning small bets they would make you lose. This why you always need to be inconsistent while placing bets. Sometimes it works and most of the time it won't. Always remember in the end the casino will always win.
I am not sure that the house knows when you place a big bet and they make you lose. If this is true gamblers will not be winning big. We have seen people place bets which turn out to become big wins. Gambling is a combination of luck and skills. If you are lucky you win and if you bet a large amount on your lucky day, you win big. If casino programs their system to make gamblers win only when they stake small then it's fraudulent. Which means they are deceiving their customer. People will such casinos because of this fraudulent system. Customers can also sue this casino because this practice is against the rules of gambling.


Title: Re: Are Casino Sites Cheating Us?
Post by: _act_ on March 24, 2023, 07:57:04 AM
If you are lucky you win and if you bet a large amount on your lucky day, you win big. If casino programs their system to make gamblers win only when they stake small then it's fraudulent. Which means they are deceiving their customer. People will such casinos because of this fraudulent system. Customers can also sue this casino because this practice is against the rules of gambling.
There are some casinos that may want to manipulate, but people will know, this is the kind of casinos that gamblers can use small amount of money to win, but if using high amount of money they will lose. A kind of game of 50 to 50 percent chance using a faulty means in a way gamblers will lose. But which trustworthy gambling site wants to damage their reputation, those gambling sites that have good reputation avoid cheating in order to have more customers.


Title: Re: Are Casino Sites Cheating Us?
Post by: michellee on March 24, 2023, 08:27:15 AM
If you are lucky you win and if you bet a large amount on your lucky day, you win big. If casino programs their system to make gamblers win only when they stake small then it's fraudulent. Which means they are deceiving their customer. People will such casinos because of this fraudulent system. Customers can also sue this casino because this practice is against the rules of gambling.
There are some casinos that may want to manipulate, but people will know, this is the kind of casinos that gamblers can use small amount of money to win, but if using high amount of money they will lose. A kind of game of 50 to 50 percent chance using a faulty means in a way gamblers will lose. But which trustworthy gambling site wants to damage their reputation, those gambling sites that have good reputation avoid cheating in order to have more customers.
No trusted casino site wants to tarnish its own reputation. That means the casino will lose the trust of all its customers and the casino will also lose the potential profits that they have been getting. We will never know which casino has manipulated people with its system. Even if a trusted casino did it, we wouldn't even know.

But if we don't decide to play gambling on suspicious casino sites, I don't think we will experience problems of fraud, manipulation or whatever. Casinos will always pay attention to us and will provide attractive offers.


Title: Re: Are Casino Sites Cheating Us?
Post by: danherbias07 on March 24, 2023, 09:04:09 AM
That is part of "the house will always win". A higher percentage of chance will always be leaning on them that the player. Try betting on the same amount for 10-100 rounds and do the math on how much percentage are your wins.
I did it before for 1000 rounds. All I can say is, players are always on the losing side. If there are gamblers who had stories that they won more, either that's a lie or they got lucky with 1 big bet and then stayed away from that game for a long time.
If you are having trouble trusting their system, then you can always choose another game. Try Poker. Try Sports gambling. I assure you, it will be more fun if you are doing it with your own effort to win.


Title: Re: Are Casino Sites Cheating Us?
Post by: leonair on March 24, 2023, 10:12:44 AM
In this regard you missed an opportunity though. Since you say that you win by betting with small amounts. I think you should have played with smaller amounts. However, no such complaint was found on any reputable site. When you bet more, your luck doesn't favor you. Or it could be that the site is cheating you. But for this you must collect proper evidence. Otherwise you cannot take any action against them. If your doubt is strong and you can't gather any evidence, you may be better off choosing another good site.
Yes I was playing with small amount but when I used big amount I lost so I kept playing with big amount to recover loss then I noticed that as long as I was using small amount the system was giving me chance to win again and again but  Using large amount keeps losing me and my balance goes to 0 in one session. This could also happen because of my panic so I didn't create a Scam Accusations for it.

Most of the time I play Blackjack & Dice.  I have always noticed that when I bet a large amount I am a loser when it comes to Dice.  Also in case of Blackjack when I bet big amount I get wrong card due to which I lose the bet. On the other hand when I bet small amount I win in case of Dice and if I bet small amount multiple times I win multiple times.  In Blackjack, when I bet small amounts, I am always get good cards and win the bets. Thus the cycle continues.  I have noticed that it is not an easy thing to withdraw from having achieved something great. I always gamble for fun with small amounts and lose them but I don't care. But I started playing blackjack yesterday with $1k and noticed that the casino sites are somehow cheating us. I lost my $1k yesterday. through Blackjack. What do you think about casino site algorithms?  Are they cheating with us?
If you have it since evening that they are cheating with you.  Then you can play live casino from stake.com where your favorite Blackjack is also available. There you will see the dealer live and several other gamblers like you will be playing together at the same table as you.  So in this case you don't have to play against any system. In this case it is unlikely that you will have any doubts that they are cheating with you. Yes but there is no way to avoid that when you play against a system that casino site can cheat you through their complex algorithm or some secret coding.
I was new to stake.com so I didn't realize it had live blackjack then. If I had known this I would have played live games where the system has nothing to do with a completely human game. And I was content to lose my money there.  Whereas losing with the system makes me feel like it's cheating  >:(


Title: Re: Are Casino Sites Cheating Us?
Post by: Taskford on March 24, 2023, 10:33:42 AM
I was new to stake.com so I didn't realize it had live blackjack then. If I had known this I would have played live games where the system has nothing to do with a completely human game. And I was content to lose my money there.  Whereas losing with the system makes me feel like it's cheating  >:(

If you are not confident about the result on system generated result games then maybe this is not really for you because you cannot enjoy the game by having worries if you are been cheated or not. Better play only on where you are convince that the platform is safe since this could make you feel better and you could enjoy the game even if you lose. Stake is good casino so in my opinion you are in good platform and I guess you cannot get cheating issues there.


Title: Re: Are Casino Sites Cheating Us?
Post by: Synchronice on March 24, 2023, 10:59:31 AM
Most of the time I play Blackjack & Dice.  I have always noticed that when I bet a large amount I am a loser when it comes to Dice.  Also in case of Blackjack when I bet big amount I get wrong card due to which I lose the bet. On the other hand when I bet small amount I win in case of Dice and if I bet small amount multiple times I win multiple times.  In Blackjack, when I bet small amounts, I am always get good cards and win the bets. Thus the cycle continues.  I have noticed that it is not an easy thing to withdraw from having achieved something great. I always gamble for fun with small amounts and lose them but I don't care. But I started playing blackjack yesterday with $1k and noticed that the casino sites are somehow cheating us. I lost my $1k yesterday. through Blackjack. What do you think about casino site algorithms?  Are they cheating with us?
Which casinos do you think are cheating you? It's better to record you gaming sessions and open a thread in Scam Accusation section or in gambling forums and explain the shady behavior. It will affect their image, in turn may give you money and it will benefit the community, overall.
By the way, if you are so lucky with low bets on that particular casino, just don't bet more and you'll always end up winning :D

To be honest, casinos don't need to fake results because every game has house edge, starting from 1% and going higher, that means' long-term they are guaranteed to profit, so I don't get the point of faking results but maybe some of them want quick and more money, idk. Better to open scam accusation threads with evidences here and there about casinos which you think lie to warn more people.


Title: Re: Are Casino Sites Cheating Us?
Post by: coinerer on March 24, 2023, 11:12:13 AM
Most of the time I play Blackjack & Dice.  I have always noticed that when I bet a large amount I am a loser when it comes to Dice.  Also in case of Blackjack when I bet big amount I get wrong card due to which I lose the bet. On the other hand when I bet small amount I win in case of Dice and if I bet small amount multiple times I win multiple times.  In Blackjack, when I bet small amounts, I am always get good cards and win the bets. Thus the cycle continues.  I have noticed that it is not an easy thing to withdraw from having achieved something great. I always gamble for fun with small amounts and lose them but I don't care. But I started playing blackjack yesterday with $1k and noticed that the casino sites are somehow cheating us. I lost my $1k yesterday. through Blackjack. What do you think about casino site algorithms?  Are they cheating with us?
If you have it since evening that they are cheating with you.  Then you can play live casino from stake.com where your favorite Blackjack is also available. There you will see the dealer live and several other gamblers like you will be playing together at the same table as you.  So in this case you don't have to play against any system. In this case it is unlikely that you will have any doubts that they are cheating with you. Yes but there is no way to avoid that when you play against a system that casino site can cheat you through their complex algorithm or some secret coding.
I was new to stake.com so I didn't realize it had live blackjack then. If I had known this I would have played live games where the system has nothing to do with a completely human game. And I was content to lose my money there.  Whereas losing with the system makes me feel like it's cheating  >:(
It's your fault that you don't know a site well enough to deposit $1000 there and lose it. I think you've repeatedly won by betting smaller amounts out of greed, then panicked betting with higher amounts and gambled excitedly, so you lost.  I don't think the stake site cheated you because it has been in the gambling market for a long time and has done billions of bets so no one can raise such a case against them till now. If stake were cheating like that they would not be considered a reputable casino site despite the competition of thousands of gambling sites on the casino market


Title: Re: Are Casino Sites Cheating Us?
Post by: socks435 on March 24, 2023, 11:16:24 AM
There are some casinos are cheating and some of them are not but the problem is we do not know if they are cheating or not because all Casino sites are not open source  everything in Casino can be modify privately without telling us that they change some codes/script.
That is why live casinos are better that playing in any casino which is created only by software.
No one could reveal their own program script related to casino and there is someone before selling ready made casino script where you can able to change luck inside the script pannel. I'm not saying all Casino have this option I just remember someone selling a ready made casino with that option which I think the script just made for scamming.


Title: Re: Are Casino Sites Cheating Us?
Post by: slapper on March 24, 2023, 11:35:56 AM
That is part of "the house will always win". A higher percentage of chance will always be leaning on them that the player. Try betting on the same amount for 10-100 rounds and do the math on how much percentage are your wins.
I did it before for 1000 rounds. All I can say is, players are always on the losing side. If there are gamblers who had stories that they won more, either that's a lie or they got lucky with 1 big bet and then stayed away from that game for a long time.
If you are having trouble trusting their system, then you can always choose another game. Try Poker. Try Sports gambling. I assure you, it will be more fun if you are doing it with your own effort to win.
The odds, they got us players pinned down, no lie. But think about it, gambling's all about that thrill, going out on a limb. If you want a surefire win, this ain't your jam! Still, knowing which games put the odds in your favor helps. Take Blackjack – it's got some of the sweetest odds around. Stick to the basics, and you can slice that house edge under 1%!

But let's not kid ourselves, gambling ain't just about the Benjamins. It's the buzz of the game, the ride of your life. Me, I like switching it up – trying different games, betting strategies, keeping it fresh and wild! Who knows, maybe you'll hit that jackpot, walk away with mad stacks! So, take a leap, try something new. You never know what thrills and spills you'll find!



Title: Re: Are Casino Sites Cheating Us?
Post by: Lorence.xD on March 24, 2023, 11:59:58 AM
Perhaps it has something to do with past results, especially if during the game, your previous bets resulted in consistent small wins which influenced your confidence to bet big without realizing that the house is primarily designed against you. Essentially, you are being blinded by small consecutive wins.

At the end of the day, it is still a game of chance and luck, and the only way to go is proper "risk management."


Exactly, this is where you can say the phrase "the more you win the more you lose" because it aims the players to be greedy at winning more with giving them the high chance of probability when betting low amount of money. That's why consistency is the key to gain more profit in gambling by slowly leaving with a profit. But you can still beat that system is to always have a self control. And I agree that it still depends on your luck if you're gonna quit with a win or lose situation.


Title: Re: Are Casino Sites Cheating Us?
Post by: KiaKia on March 24, 2023, 12:05:16 PM
It is sure that the experience you get from one online casino will differ from that you will get from another online casino. If you are not satisfied with the results you are getting, do know that there are many online casinos you can try, and I am sure that you will get a different result from one online casino to another.

Use reputable online casinos and be opened to try out new games and strategies, some online casinos do like to cheat that's why I would recommend a well-rated casino that has a good reputation, most smaller or new online casinos likes to cheat or refuse to pay, not all of them are worth the risk.


Title: Re: Are Casino Sites Cheating Us?
Post by: masulum on March 24, 2023, 02:45:17 PM
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Use reputable online casinos and be opened to try out new games and strategies, some online casinos do like to cheat that's why I would recommend a well-rated casino that has a good reputation, most smaller or new online casinos likes to cheat or refuse to pay, not all of them are worth the risk.

Cheating is sometimes an ambiguous word issued by gamblers. When someone loses with a huge loss for gambling ini any gambling, it will generally be judged that he has been deceived by a fraudulent system. However, on the other hand, on the same website (example), a user stated that he often gets big wins from this provider. So, it's not about the recommended provider or not, but whether the gambler's assessment is fair or not. If every time he loses he always says cheating, it means he is betting wrong, because gambling is actually luck or play with probability, not a guarantee that he always wins. Many lose thousands of dollars every day, but he understands that is the risk of gambling, so that person will not think that it is cheating. Maybe, not recommending site/provider it could cheat their system, but i have a questions, doesn't every system have a similar system? lose more than win? lets say when we are playing an online poker, when we getting bad card more then 20 rounds, do you think they are cheating or you are on a bad day?


Title: Re: Are Casino Sites Cheating Us?
Post by: OgNasty on March 24, 2023, 04:47:39 PM
I think the answer to this concern is to bet on things like sporting events where the only way they can really cheat you is on the odds. Some casinos provide proof of fairness, but 99% of the people who use the casinos have no idea how to verify it anyway. If you’re concerned about being cheated, just bet on public events that you’re happy with the odds and you should be fine.


Title: Re: Are Casino Sites Cheating Us?
Post by: lizarder on March 24, 2023, 05:16:14 PM
It is sure that the experience you get from one online casino will differ from that you will get from another online casino. If you are not satisfied with the results you are getting, do know that there are many online casinos you can try, and I am sure that you will get a different result from one online casino to another.
The problem that the OP is facing is not the casino, in principle the casino is the same because we will play with the system, so it's not a casino problem and more precisely because luck is not with him. Besides, OP mentioned that he always wins when placing small bets, that means it's not the Casino that's in trouble, but he's unlucky on big bets in the dice game.

From what I understand of the case that happened to the OP, it's not about being scammed for not being paid by the Casino, but he always fails to win big bets and I don't think he's had any luck at the dice game or he could just be having a bad day.


Title: Re: Are Casino Sites Cheating Us?
Post by: molsewid on March 24, 2023, 05:17:44 PM
I think the answer to this concern is to bet on things like sporting events where the only way they can really cheat you is on the odds. Some casinos provide proof of fairness, but 99% of the people who use the casinos have no idea how to verify it anyway. If you’re concerned about being cheated, just bet on public events that you’re happy with the odds and you should be fine.
They can also make some background checking, it is easy to find some casinos here in the forum he can also try to check reddit as well.  Many casinos has their thread in this forum so that they can also get feedback and recommendations. We as gamblers, we are responsible for our own doing and being cheated should not be allowed but we need to be sure if we are right and also if that casino has really a good reputation in the very first.


Title: Re: Are Casino Sites Cheating Us?
Post by: Hispo on March 24, 2023, 05:41:40 PM
It may be just you having a bad luck day, but if the casino has some way to be proven as provably fair, I believe you should try to certify next time you feel like rolling dices or playing blackjack. If you do not how to do so, there are some tutorials on internet.

https://stake.com/blog/how-does-the-provably-fair-system-work

That is one of the reasons I would personally not encourage anyone to gamble in small and relatively unknown casinos, if they do not have a way to check the fairness, then I would consider it to be some sort of a red-flag.


Title: Re: Are Casino Sites Cheating Us?
Post by: Jody.Drummer on March 24, 2023, 07:11:03 PM
Perhaps it has something to do with past results, especially if during the game, your previous bets resulted in consistent small wins which influenced your confidence to bet big without realizing that the house is primarily designed against you. Essentially, you are being blinded by small consecutive wins.

At the end of the day, it is still a game of chance and luck, and the only way to go is proper "risk management."


Exactly, this is where you can say the phrase "the more you win the more you lose" because it aims the players to be greedy at winning more with giving them the high chance of probability when betting low amount of money. That's why consistency is the key to gain more profit in gambling by slowly leaving with a profit. But you can still beat that system is to always have a self control. And I agree that it still depends on your luck if you're gonna quit with a win or lose situation.
If you don't win, you will lose, that's something we definitely feel when playing casinos. They will say that the casino is cheating if they feel they are losing, and when they win big they will just keep quiet, which is something I have encountered so far.  ;D
I agree with what you say, that it is also a part of playing with our emotions, yes, when we bet small and keep winning, our emotions will definitely encourage us to bet a larger amount, and that's actually a mistake to avoid. . Don't think when our bet is small and we win it will be the same when we increase the bet amount. As much as possible we must hold ourselves so that we do not get carried away by emotions.


Title: Re: Are Casino Sites Cheating Us?
Post by: Vaculin on March 24, 2023, 07:43:43 PM
It could be, who knows. They will eventually cheat if there are opportunities to cheat. However, with reputable casinos, I don’t think cheating is more possible since they have this provably fair system so that there will be more transparency in each game. And if there are cases of cheating, players are always free to voice them out. But with illegal operating casinos like those in gray areas, cheating will always be possible and is even hard to stop it.


Title: Re: Are Casino Sites Cheating Us?
Post by: uneng on March 24, 2023, 07:58:12 PM
It could be, who knows. They will eventually cheat if there are opportunities to cheat. However, with reputable casinos, I don’t think cheating is more possible since they have this provably fair system so that there will be more transparency in each game. And if there are cases of cheating, players are always free to voice them out. But with illegal operating casinos like those in gray areas, cheating will always be possible and is even hard to stop it.
We need to know what casino OP is talking about, so we can have some idea about the legitimacy and reputation of the casino and also compare it to the experiences of another gamblers who have played there. Consequently, we could reach a conclusion if what he is saying makes sense from a practical point of view, or if it's just coincidence and superstition.

Personally, I think it's likely to be coincidence, because casinos don't need to cheat on gamblers in order to make profit, since they are already assured to profit on long term due to the house edge.


Title: Re: Are Casino Sites Cheating Us?
Post by: Fatunad on March 24, 2023, 08:09:17 PM
It could be, who knows. They will eventually cheat if there are opportunities to cheat. However, with reputable casinos, I don’t think cheating is more possible since they have this provably fair system so that there will be more transparency in each game. And if there are cases of cheating, players are always free to voice them out. But with illegal operating casinos like those in gray areas, cheating will always be possible and is even hard to stop it.
We need to know what casino OP is talking about, so we can have some idea about the legitimacy and reputation of the casino and also compare it to the experiences of another gamblers who have played there. Consequently, we could reach a conclusion if what he is saying makes sense from a practical point of view, or if it's just coincidence and superstition.

Personally, I think it's likely to be coincidence, because casinos don't need to cheat on gamblers in order to make profit, since they are already assured to profit on long term due to the house edge.
If we do speak about some long time running sites or platforms then it is really just that unrealistic or not really that believable on committing some cheating considering that they are indeed making huge money or income
in longer runs without needing to cheat up.This is why it is really good that we do have this forum on which we could really be able to see on whose really just simply trolling or just telling up some lies or simply
making simple issues to make it big and accusing up a company without having that solid evidence or simply with those common issues which could be that easily resolved by the team.
There are really just that people who are really that impatient when it comes to things.


Title: Re: Are Casino Sites Cheating Us?
Post by: Lida93 on March 24, 2023, 08:19:07 PM
OP it's as simple as A-Z just stick with the amount of bet that's favourable to you. From the account you have given it clearly shows that smaller amount of bet pays you than when you use bigger amount whereas there are some persons that don't even get to win with either big or small amount, so I wonder what their own case would be referred to if yours is said to be a cheating one.

In gambling its necessary we understand the kind of games abd bets that we make successes from and stick to those instead of burden yourself with those that don't work out for you, stay where your luck shines.


Title: Re: Are Casino Sites Cheating Us?
Post by: Distinctin on March 24, 2023, 08:34:31 PM
Could be. However I don’t think any reputable casino needs these kinds of tricks to win our money. I think you were just unlucky. I know it because these big casinos are almost always use the same provable fair betting system where you can verify your seed/roll. If they were scamming us someone would have noticed it long time ago. The situation might be different on the newly established smaller online casinos though. Who knows what filth is hidden in their code…
Well, cheating could add more profits to the casino but I guess, they won’t do it because they have to protect their good reputation that they have built years from now. So just accept the reality that you are not always lucky when gambling, and you have gone out of luck when you start gambling big amount. If that’s what you have seen in gambling, then most likely settle for small bets as that what makes you more profitable than risking a big amount and lose them at the end.


Title: Re: Are Casino Sites Cheating Us?
Post by: jrrsparkles on March 24, 2023, 08:40:38 PM
Most of the time I play Blackjack & Dice.  I have always noticed that when I bet a large amount I am a loser when it comes to Dice.  Also in case of Blackjack when I bet big amount I get wrong card due to which I lose the bet. On the other hand when I bet small amount I win in case of Dice and if I bet small amount multiple times I win multiple times.  In Blackjack, when I bet small amounts, I am always get good cards and win the bets. Thus the cycle continues.  I have noticed that it is not an easy thing to withdraw from having achieved something great. I always gamble for fun with small amounts and lose them but I don't care. But I started playing blackjack yesterday with $1k and noticed that the casino sites are somehow cheating us. I lost my $1k yesterday. through Blackjack. What do you think about casino site algorithms?  Are they cheating with us?
I would like to call you are the luckiest as well as unlucky person cause when you bet small you keep winning when do it with big amount you are losing, so let's find out by keep playing with small amounts all the time you have more wins all the times? If that happens still you can become a millionaire in a week even if you start with $10 or $100.


Title: Re: Are Casino Sites Cheating Us?
Post by: Fivestar4everMVP on March 24, 2023, 08:46:47 PM
Could be. However I don’t think any reputable casino needs these kinds of tricks to win our money. I think you were just unlucky. I know it because these big casinos are almost always use the same provable fair betting system where you can verify your seed/roll. If they were scamming us someone would have noticed it long time ago. The situation might be different on the newly established smaller online casinos though. Who knows what filth is hidden in their code…
Well, cheating could add more profits to the casino but I guess, they won’t do it because they have to protect their good reputation that they have built years from now.
There are casinos that actually cheat and still manage to maintain a very good reputation, there kind of cheating doesn't have to noticeable by gamblers but its there, their style of cheating could be through tweaking some of their games in such a way that the gambler hardly wins his or her bet, and in the end, the gambler and onlookers may attribute the constant loss to ill-luck.

This is why if i play a certain for some time and don't win, if its a game I like so much, then I will try it on another casino to really be sure its luck that's keeping me from winning.


Title: Re: Are Casino Sites Cheating Us?
Post by: Viscore on March 24, 2023, 08:47:58 PM
Casinos have always the chance to cheat us whenever they want to but I don’t think they want to be more known on that because that will only ruin whatever sacrifices they have built from the first place. So just consider yourself unlucky that time and lose the big amount you bet. I’m sure a lot of those who lose too are also betting bigger than your money bet. Next time, never bet on an amount you can’t manage to lose and end up suspecting the site for cheating.


Title: Re: Are Casino Sites Cheating Us?
Post by: lionheart78 on March 24, 2023, 10:04:54 PM
Most of the time I play Blackjack & Dice.  I have always noticed that when I bet a large amount I am a loser when it comes to Dice.  Also in case of Blackjack when I bet big amount I get wrong card due to which I lose the bet. On the other hand when I bet small amount I win in case of Dice and if I bet small amount multiple times I win multiple times.  In Blackjack, when I bet small amounts, I am always get good cards and win the bets. Thus the cycle continues.  I have noticed that it is not an easy thing to withdraw from having achieved something great. I always gamble for fun with small amounts and lose them but I don't care. But I started playing blackjack yesterday with $1k and noticed that the casino sites are somehow cheating us. I lost my $1k yesterday. through Blackjack. What do you think about casino site algorithms?  Are they cheating with us?

I think all of these are just a coincidence.  The dice result is predetermined using RNG but is randomly triggered when we roll the dice so if you are playing in a reputable and licensed casino, there is no way that the game is cheating you since the game system is monitored and even produces hashes for the provably fair verification.

On the other hand, if the blackjack is machine-generated then it also follows the process of slots and dice in determining its outcome.  Btw, can you share the name of the gambling platform?

Casinos have always the chance to cheat us whenever they want to but I don’t think they want to be more known on that because that will only ruin whatever sacrifices they have built from the first place. So just consider yourself unlucky that time and lose the big amount you bet. I’m sure a lot of those who lose too are also betting bigger than your money bet. Next time, never bet on an amount you can’t manage to lose and end up suspecting the site for cheating.

Indeed they have the chance but the question is, do they take that chance?  The money involved or expenses they use in their operation and promotion is too huge to mess up by cheating their players.  So I do not think that reputable casino cheats their player through algorithm because as far as I know they can be verified by professional gambling inspectors.


Title: Re: Are Casino Sites Cheating Us?
Post by: capedbaldy on March 24, 2023, 11:32:04 PM
Indeed they have the chance but the question is, do they take that chance?  The money involved or expenses they use in their operation and promotion is too huge to mess up by cheating their players.  So I do not think that reputable casino cheats their player through algorithm because as far as I know they can be verified by professional gambling inspectors.
They can change the betting algorithm to set a low chance of winning so that the gambler will lose no matter what the bet is in that game, so it is very important to choose a popular casino site and fair play over other casino sites that may harm the gambler. But we know the specific problem of the OP's losses, it's possible that he lost due to being greedy in the game and not setting a funding limit for gambling.


Title: Re: Are Casino Sites Cheating Us?
Post by: Wiwo on March 24, 2023, 11:42:30 PM
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We need to know what casino OP is talking about, so we can have some idea about the legitimacy and reputation of the casino and also compare it to the experiences of another gamblers who have played there. Consequently, we could reach a conclusion if what he is saying makes sense from a practical point of view, or if it's just coincidence and superstition.


One thing that have constantly being in practice in most casino is the strict adherence to their terms and conditions and since casinos build with profit-making as the primary goal it now becomes very important for the casino to always win against the player no matter what, and only highly reputable casinos will revisit any case that has to do with account balance and players winnings.

-This has been the major reason why some casinos are constantly accused of stealing and cheating players, so it is now left for the casino to either build a good reputation by putting players interest as much as the casino's gains and do what is fair and acceptable.

-This is the only way gamblers will not feel cheated in anything that happens while their playing in such a casino.


Title: Re: Are Casino Sites Cheating Us?
Post by: AmoreJaz on March 24, 2023, 11:47:05 PM
Indeed they have the chance but the question is, do they take that chance?  The money involved or expenses they use in their operation and promotion is too huge to mess up by cheating their players.  So I do not think that reputable casino cheats their player through algorithm because as far as I know they can be verified by professional gambling inspectors.
They can change the betting algorithm to set a low chance of winning so that the gambler will lose no matter what the bet is in that game, so it is very important to choose a popular casino site and fair play over other casino sites that may harm the gambler. But we know the specific problem of the OP's losses, it's possible that he lost due to being greedy in the game and not setting a funding limit for gambling.

if you won't stop playing, then, you will indeed lose your funds. some people will only stop when they lost all their bankroll. and then, they will accuse the casino of cheating and all. of course, there's always house edge for the casino to survive. what do they want? go home with huge winnings every time they play?
and this is the very reason why it is always advisable to play on top and reputable casinos. they won't mess with their players as it can blow up their business big time if they are discovered cheating their players.


Title: Re: Are Casino Sites Cheating Us?
Post by: n0ne on March 25, 2023, 12:00:04 AM
If our mind turns the way, then we can't change it forever. People have a thinking that Casinos cheat us. We've got each and every access to check whether the bet is fair functioning or not. Even after that we should not complain the Casinos to be functioning against the rule or cheating us.

Most of the time people indicate a particular casino is cheating when the user doesn't experience win and have lost big on the casino. Here it isn't the mistake of the caisno. The user needs to understand and act accordingly.


Title: Re: Are Casino Sites Cheating Us?
Post by: BChydro on March 25, 2023, 12:46:08 AM
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 But I started playing blackjack yesterday with $1k and noticed that the casino sites are somehow cheating us. I lost my $1k yesterday. through Blackjack. What do you think about casino site algorithms?  Are they cheating with us?
I seriously do not trust many of the games, it depends upon which site you were gambling and you cannot trust every casino and expect them to be fair. If you check online, you would find many scam accusations that proved that certain casino were cheating. I did play in some of the trusted casinos in the cryptocurrency space and i think they are fair as we never had any serious accusations regarding their algorithm.


Title: Re: Are Casino Sites Cheating Us?
Post by: ralle14 on March 25, 2023, 02:01:49 AM
What do you think about casino site algorithms?  Are they cheating with us?
Most likely the answer is no as the house edge is mostly the one doing the work and that one session is just unlucky as most gamblers have probably been through the same situation.

With live casino games, there might not be any way to verify their fairness but it's still hard to think they're cheating as I assume they're being monitored similar to how games from third-party providers are being inspected to confirm they're fair.


Title: Re: Are Casino Sites Cheating Us?
Post by: len01 on March 25, 2023, 08:07:30 AM
If our mind turns the way, then we can't change it forever. People have a thinking that Casinos cheat us. We've got each and every access to check whether the bet is fair functioning or not. Even after that we should not complain the Casinos to be functioning against the rule or cheating us.

Most of the time people indicate a particular casino is cheating when the user doesn't experience win and have lost big on the casino. Here it isn't the mistake of the caisno. The user needs to understand and act accordingly.
in this case the casino is popular and has a good reputation, usually they have been recognized that the casino is fair and it would not be possible for the casino to deceive us, while the casino is a business established to generate profits for the company owner.
maybe the people who judge casinos to be deceptive are frustrated people who gamble without responsibility and always lose money when betting without being able to control their emotions. so he feels that the casino has tricked him even though the casino is provided to make customers happy and must gamble responsibly.


Title: Re: Are Casino Sites Cheating Us?
Post by: ethereumhunter on March 25, 2023, 09:37:35 AM
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 But I started playing blackjack yesterday with $1k and noticed that the casino sites are somehow cheating us. I lost my $1k yesterday. through Blackjack. What do you think about casino site algorithms?  Are they cheating with us?
I seriously do not trust many of the games, it depends upon which site you were gambling and you cannot trust every casino and expect them to be fair. If you check online, you would find many scam accusations that proved that certain casino were cheating. I did play in some of the trusted casinos in the cryptocurrency space and i think they are fair as we never had any serious accusations regarding their algorithm.
As long as we can find a trusted casino that is proven fair, I think we can play in peace at the casino. The casino will not cheat its members because the casino has become a place where many people play gambling so the casino has earned the trust of its members. That is why if you want to play at a casino, make sure the casino is trusted and has a reputation. Thus, you will not experience dissatisfaction when playing gambling. But if your goal is just to play gambling and have fun, you shouldn't think about cheating that casinos can do because that can burden your mind to think things that are not.


Title: Re: Are Casino Sites Cheating Us?
Post by: Taskford on March 25, 2023, 10:20:04 AM
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 But I started playing blackjack yesterday with $1k and noticed that the casino sites are somehow cheating us. I lost my $1k yesterday. through Blackjack. What do you think about casino site algorithms?  Are they cheating with us?
I seriously do not trust many of the games, it depends upon which site you were gambling and you cannot trust every casino and expect them to be fair. If you check online, you would find many scam accusations that proved that certain casino were cheating. I did play in some of the trusted casinos in the cryptocurrency space and i think they are fair as we never had any serious accusations regarding their algorithm.
As long as we can find a trusted casino that is proven fair, I think we can play in peace at the casino. The casino will not cheat its members because the casino has become a place where many people play gambling so the casino has earned the trust of its members. That is why if you want to play at a casino, make sure the casino is trusted and has a reputation. Thus, you will not experience dissatisfaction when playing gambling. But if your goal is just to play gambling and have fun, you shouldn't think about cheating that casinos can do because that can burden your mind to think things that are not.

There are times that we can't think that way even on trusted casino maybe this is due to frustrations we have for losing streaks we encounter. Its quite normal since after we can get over with it for sure we realize that we lose because of the mistakes we commit while playing. And we need to know that as long as we gamble on trusted casino for sure we can get less doubt about the fairness of the game.


Title: Re: Are Casino Sites Cheating Us?
Post by: slapper on March 25, 2023, 10:39:35 AM
Indeed they have the chance but the question is, do they take that chance?  The money involved or expenses they use in their operation and promotion is too huge to mess up by cheating their players.  So I do not think that reputable casino cheats their player through algorithm because as far as I know they can be verified by professional gambling inspectors.
They can change the betting algorithm to set a low chance of winning so that the gambler will lose no matter what the bet is in that game, so it is very important to choose a popular casino site and fair play over other casino sites that may harm the gambler. But we know the specific problem of the OP's losses, it's possible that he lost due to being greedy in the game and not setting a funding limit for gambling.

if you won't stop playing, then, you will indeed lose your funds. some people will only stop when they lost all their bankroll. and then, they will accuse the casino of cheating and all. of course, there's always house edge for the casino to survive. what do they want? go home with huge winnings every time they play?
and this is the very reason why it is always advisable to play on top and reputable casinos. they won't mess with their players as it can blow up their business big time if they are discovered cheating their players.
Indeed! Certain individuals simply cannot resist the temptation, persisting until they've lost it all. The lack of self-restraint is astonishing! Nevertheless, casinos must stay afloat, hence the house edge to guarantee their solvency. Winning every round is simply a pipe dream!

Still, it's not all about the W or L; it's the thrill of the game, the vibe we're after. That's why I tell the crew, hit up those top-notch casinos, like that spot you mentioned! You gotta feel protected and secure, knowin' they ain't gonna pull a fast one. Huge weight off your shoulders!



Title: Re: Are Casino Sites Cheating Us?
Post by: Cling18 on March 25, 2023, 11:28:51 AM
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 But I started playing blackjack yesterday with $1k and noticed that the casino sites are somehow cheating us. I lost my $1k yesterday. through Blackjack. What do you think about casino site algorithms?  Are they cheating with us?
I seriously do not trust many of the games, it depends upon which site you were gambling and you cannot trust every casino and expect them to be fair. If you check online, you would find many scam accusations that proved that certain casino were cheating. I did play in some of the trusted casinos in the cryptocurrency space and i think they are fair as we never had any serious accusations regarding their algorithm.
As long as we can find a trusted casino that is proven fair, I think we can play in peace at the casino. The casino will not cheat its members because the casino has become a place where many people play gambling so the casino has earned the trust of its members. That is why if you want to play at a casino, make sure the casino is trusted and has a reputation. Thus, you will not experience dissatisfaction when playing gambling. But if your goal is just to play gambling and have fun, you shouldn't think about cheating that casinos can do because that can burden your mind to think things that are not.

There are times that we can't think that way even on trusted casino maybe this is due to frustrations we have for losing streaks we encounter. Its quite normal since after we can get over with it for sure we realize that we lose because of the mistakes we commit while playing. And we need to know that as long as we gamble in trusted casinos for sure we can get less doubt about the fairness of the game.


Frustrations due to losses can lead to blaming the casino and we might accuse them of scamming s which usually happens to compulsive gamblers. If we know the risk then we should also be wise in dealing with it and accept the fact that we can't always win in gambling. We can't blame the casino for our continuous losses if we are unable to control ourselves from continuous betting. If we have the right mindset towards gambling then we could gamble the right way responsibly.


Title: Re: Are Casino Sites Cheating Us?
Post by: BobK71 on March 25, 2023, 12:05:58 PM
Frustrations due to losses can lead to blaming the casino and we might accuse them of scamming s which usually happens to compulsive gamblers. If we know the risk then we should also be wise in dealing with it and accept the fact that we can't always win in gambling. We can't blame the casino for our continuous losses if we are unable to control ourselves from continuous betting. If we have the right mindset towards gambling then we could gamble the right way responsibly.
Especially new gamblers make negative comments about the casino when they lose consecutively which has no basis. Casinos always want to give maximum benefits to their clients but they have several terms and conditions that a gambler has to follow to conduct gambling activities. I received some complaints from several new gamblers and finally found their fault when I researched well. But yes, some new casinos can make mistakes that can be resolved with proper evidence.


Title: Re: Are Casino Sites Cheating Us?
Post by: shogun47 on March 25, 2023, 12:54:29 PM
I know that some people prefer dice or slots over sports betting and it can definitely be fun to play those games, but it is exactly the impossibility for the players to verify the outcome with realistic effort that keeps me from playing it a lot and definitely not with a lot of money.

In sports betting you don't have that issue. The outcome is whatever the outcome is and the effort to verify it is essentially inherent in sports betting itself. There is no effort on your part. Except for games that are manipulated by players on the pitch or whatever you bet on, but that is a different story and up to legal authorities. When there is bribery at play the only result one can hope is that it comes to light. But I am not even sure whether a casino is then legally forced to compensate for players' losses. Does anyone know that? Would players who got paid their winnings be forced to repay retrsopectively?


Title: Re: Are Casino Sites Cheating Us?
Post by: Jawhead999 on March 25, 2023, 01:21:27 PM
When there is bribery at play the only result one can hope is that it comes to light. But I am not even sure whether a casino is then legally forced to compensate for players' losses. Does anyone know that? Would players who got paid their winnings be forced to repay retrsopectively?
I think if the match was proven manipulated in short time, the casino will void any users bet on that's match. But if the match was proven manipulated after few days or weeks, the casino can't void the bet since they've distribute the reward accordingly. They still have a chance to freeze the account of any player who have previously bet in that's match, but it just my assumption because I never experienced this problem.


Title: Re: Are Casino Sites Cheating Us?
Post by: reagansimms on March 25, 2023, 01:42:19 PM
It takes a survey of several users on the same site with the same case to draw conclusions from what you are experiencing. There is nothing to deceive and be deceived in this case. You play and lose, that's natural because in a game there are winners and losers.

When you play against the system, you need to use brain intelligence, if you are greedy and want to win big quickly, defeat will never be far from you. Start playing with the brain not with lust, if you can get a win from a small bet, have fun with a small bet, at least when you leave the casino you can still bring home money.


Title: Re: Are Casino Sites Cheating Us?
Post by: AicecreaME on March 25, 2023, 01:45:12 PM
It's their RTP, your skills, knowledge, and luck combined that make the difference in winning and losing for every bet you've made. You are playing against the house and most likely, the rules will be in favor of the house to have their profit as well. They'll just give a reasonable percentage or rate of winning and then it will be all up to it and your capabilities whether you will win or not.

There are already provably fair games which makes it known that the game isn't rigged so if you want to know for sure, you can try gambling sites that offer that for your peace of mind. Sometimes, casinos randomly adjust the odds of an account too, so it'll be a matter of winning against the odds given to you.


Title: Re: Are Casino Sites Cheating Us?
Post by: Twentyonepaylots on March 25, 2023, 02:18:17 PM
It takes a survey of several users on the same site with the same case to draw conclusions from what you are experiencing. There is nothing to deceive and be deceived in this case. You play and lose, that's natural because in a game there are winners and losers.

When you play against the system, you need to use brain intelligence, if you are greedy and want to win big quickly, defeat will never be far from you. Start playing with the brain not with lust, if you can get a win from a small bet, have fun with a small bet, at least when you leave the casino you can still bring home money.

I agree with this since, the conclusions from his experience are merely just a fraction of what should be looked at when claiming that there is some cheating mechanisms that is involved in this. I think that the gambling scene is not a guarantee of win, some may lose more, some wins more, some have it breakeven. I think there is no way that these casinos would interfere with the process since their integrity is much important. Just be reminded that gambling is still a game of luck, you can't guarantee something, probably just guarantee that you enjoy every game that you will have.


Title: Re: Are Casino Sites Cheating Us?
Post by: joniboini on March 25, 2023, 02:31:29 PM
I know that some people prefer dice or slots over sports betting and it can definitely be fun to play those games, but it is exactly the impossibility for the players to verify the outcome with realistic effort that keeps me from playing it a lot and definitely not with a lot of money.
There are provably fair casinos out there if anyone is interested in checking the odds. I think it is popular enough that most people probably know which one is verifiable and which one is just using jargon to trick its visitors. In one way or another, it is even more impossible to verify if a match in a sport is rigged or not unless the user has some access to insider information imo.

But I am not even sure whether a casino is then legally forced to compensate for players' losses. Does anyone know that? Would players who got paid their winnings be forced to repay retrsopectively?
That would be a dumb move IMO. It is not like they can't recover from the loss (if they ever did). I bet the house is more or less winning regardless of the outcome of the match either way. As for compensation for those who bet on the wrong side, they'll probably give free bets or something similar. They can definitely use their ToS to prevent being bankrupt by shouldering users' 'mistakes', such as claiming that such a situation falls under "extraordinary circumstances" for example, and not the casino's fault. CMIIW.

It takes a survey of several users on the same site with the same case to draw conclusions from what you are experiencing. There is nothing to deceive and be deceived in this case. You play and lose, that's natural because in a game there are winners and losers.
Recency bias definitely plays a part to arrive at such a conclusion. I also find similar behavior outside of casino games, I think people tend to remember bad luck better than good luck, so it is not uncommon for people to feel cheated even if they know that the house will always win in the long run. That being said, as long as they can gather enough data to support their claims, any unfair platform will be exposed sooner or later.


Title: Re: Are Casino Sites Cheating Us?
Post by: danherbias07 on March 25, 2023, 03:54:50 PM
It takes a survey of several users on the same site with the same case to draw conclusions from what you are experiencing. There is nothing to deceive and be deceived in this case. You play and lose, that's natural because in a game there are winners and losers.

When you play against the system, you need to use brain intelligence, if you are greedy and want to win big quickly, defeat will never be far from you. Start playing with the brain not with lust, if you can get a win from a small bet, have fun with a small bet, at least when you leave the casino you can still bring home money.

I agree with this since, the conclusions from his experience are merely just a fraction of what should be looked at when claiming that there is some cheating mechanisms that is involved in this. I think that the gambling scene is not a guarantee of win, some may lose more, some wins more, some have it breakeven. I think there is no way that these casinos would interfere with the process since their integrity is much important. Just be reminded that gambling is still a game of luck, you can't guarantee something, probably just guarantee that you enjoy every game that you will have.
There's no guarantee to win anywhere you go.
Experience will have a great part of what you will bet for but it doesn't mean you can go far as taking higer risks bets just for the sake of having a content in the popular live steaming address.
It's not about cheating us, it's about how we will control the way cheaters are controlling us using the chat platforms. I have been in the instance where I followed a bet by means of chat but I never went far as following the other bets just because he made me win.
IMO, it's not a continous wn strategym just a tip but its always up to you if you will follow it.


Title: Re: Are Casino Sites Cheating Us?
Post by: Fredomago on March 25, 2023, 06:02:28 PM
It takes a survey of several users on the same site with the same case to draw conclusions from what you are experiencing. There is nothing to deceive and be deceived in this case. You play and lose, that's natural because in a game there are winners and losers.

When you play against the system, you need to use brain intelligence, if you are greedy and want to win big quickly, defeat will never be far from you. Start playing with the brain not with lust, if you can get a win from a small bet, have fun with a small bet, at least when you leave the casino you can still bring home money.

I agree with this since, the conclusions from his experience are merely just a fraction of what should be looked at when claiming that there is some cheating mechanisms that is involved in this. I think that the gambling scene is not a guarantee of win, some may lose more, some wins more, some have it breakeven. I think there is no way that these casinos would interfere with the process since their integrity is much important. Just be reminded that gambling is still a game of luck, you can't guarantee something, probably just guarantee that you enjoy every game that you will have.
There's no guarantee to win anywhere you go.
Experience will have a great part of what you will bet for but it doesn't mean you can go far as taking higer risks bets just for the sake of having a content in the popular live steaming address.
It's not about cheating us, it's about how we will control the way cheaters are controlling us using the chat platforms. I have been in the instance where I followed a bet by means of chat but I never went far as following the other bets just because he made me win.
IMO, it's not a continous wn strategym just a tip but its always up to you if you will follow it.

Always up to you if you will go to use it and take the risk. If the bet will win, it doesn't mean that it will keep on winning. The chance that some of the shared pick will lose is always possible. You should trust your own instinct and if ever you will follow someone's pick, make sure that you also do some extra research to make sure that the chance of winning is better.

There's no guarantee as we are inside gambling. We should follow our own decision and hope for the best outcome.


Title: Re: Are Casino Sites Cheating Us?
Post by: erep on March 25, 2023, 07:14:45 PM
Always up to you if you will go to use it and take the risk. If the bet will win, it doesn't mean that it will keep on winning. The chance that some of the shared pick will lose is always possible. You should trust your own instinct and if ever you will follow someone's pick, make sure that you also do some extra research to make sure that the chance of winning is better.

There's no guarantee as we are inside gambling. We should follow our own decision and hope for the best outcome.
We never trust other people's opinions without first considering and analyzing the advice to get a chance to win, even though he followed the advice from the chat board but it is highly discouraged and too risky to follow the instructions shared on the chat board, so make sure we have a gambler's strategy based on analysis each and every gambler has the potential to get a winning chance if they have the expertise to analyze every bet of gambling.


Title: Re: Are Casino Sites Cheating Us?
Post by: harizen on March 25, 2023, 07:38:44 PM
What do you think about casino site algorithms?  Are they cheating with us?

You have to understand that you are doing "gambling" where you can't expect a 100% winning rate for every of your session.

Stop this mindset of yours that you feel cheated whenever you are losing. It's just unfortunate that you lose that particular session.

If you feel like casinos are cheating you, simply stop gambling. The moment you have now understood that losing is part of the game, and the casino is not really cheating on you, then come back again and try to make an attempt to find your luck.


Title: Re: Are Casino Sites Cheating Us?
Post by: redsun114 on March 25, 2023, 08:04:49 PM
I got the same impression before. My co-gamblers in one site I am playing also react the same. The truth is that, we are only not used on betting bigger amounts but try to do it often and you will see that losses are only normal but the longer you do it, you can still get a win. This wasn't advisable if you are poor of course.

In gambling, we shouldn't chase for the bigger profits but we must only play to get entertained. If ever we win some then great and we must be thankful with it. It's only up to us if we will continue but you must know what can happen next. It's either you will earn more or you will bust all your winnings and go home empty.


Title: Re: Are Casino Sites Cheating Us?
Post by: DoublerHunter on March 25, 2023, 08:55:55 PM
It takes a survey of several users on the same site with the same case to draw conclusions from what you are experiencing. There is nothing to deceive and be deceived in this case. You play and lose, that's natural because in a game there are winners and losers.

When you play against the system, you need to use brain intelligence, if you are greedy and want to win big quickly, defeat will never be far from you. Start playing with the brain not with lust, if you can get a win from a small bet, have fun with a small bet, at least when you leave the casino you can still bring home money.
^Is that lust you mean is the gambling addiction?
But for me in addition to your statement, greed can be a dangerous trap, and it is very important to focus on the game's strategies rather than the desire to win big quickly and also crucial to use your brain intelligence when playing against the system knowing the fact that no one can beat them. If you gamble for fun that is enough and make sure there is verification for the RNG that is generated. By starting with a small bet and enjoying the process, you can have fun and still bring home some money when you leave the casino. So keep playing smart and have fun!


Title: Re: Are Casino Sites Cheating Us?
Post by: goinmerry on March 25, 2023, 09:42:08 PM
What do you think about casino site algorithms?  Are they cheating with us?

It's a losing experience mate and you have to accept that while playing gambling. Not all the time, we can expect that everything will be in our favor of us.

Just moved on with that lose and try your luck the next time you consider gambling again.

It's not a form of cheating why you lose especially if you are playing on a good gambling site. But if you played on a gambling site that is not even popular, maybe there's a chance that they are cheating on you as these sites don't have a reputation to take care of.


Title: Re: Are Casino Sites Cheating Us?
Post by: shasan on March 25, 2023, 10:14:20 PM
Most of the time I play Blackjack & Dice.  I have always noticed that when I bet a large amount I am a loser when it comes to Dice.  Also in case of Blackjack when I bet big amount I get wrong card due to which I lose the bet. On the other hand when I bet small amount I win in case of Dice and if I bet small amount multiple times I win multiple times.  In Blackjack, when I bet small amounts, I am always get good cards and win the bets. Thus the cycle continues.  I have noticed that it is not an easy thing to withdraw from having achieved something great. I always gamble for fun with small amounts and lose them but I don't care. But I started playing blackjack yesterday with $1k and noticed that the casino sites are somehow cheating us. I lost my $1k yesterday. through Blackjack. What do you think about casino site algorithms?  Are they cheating with us?
They can manipulate their system and make us losers and if they can do that we have nothing to do. Gambling on casinos is very risky as if any admin sees a large amount then they can manipulate it though for the small amount they do not manipulate it. And it does not depend on all the casinos. I think blackjack will not do this type of manipulation for only 1k dollars.


Title: Re: Are Casino Sites Cheating Us?
Post by: libert19 on March 26, 2023, 03:01:16 AM
imo, Its your mind making justifications. You said, you always win smaller bets, that could be case of survivorship bias. You can make many small bets without hit in your bankroll, eventually winning one of these makes you think 'you always win small bets', while odds remained same.



Title: Re: Are Casino Sites Cheating Us?
Post by: lienfaye on March 26, 2023, 03:23:16 AM
It takes a survey of several users on the same site with the same case to draw conclusions from what you are experiencing. There is nothing to deceive and be deceived in this case. You play and lose, that's natural because in a game there are winners and losers.
True. We're talking about gambling and if you know how it works then it is not surprising to lose. Hence, be prepared for it because if you can't stand losing your money in gambling then better to refrain yourself from playing.

When you play against the system, you need to use brain intelligence, if you are greedy and want to win big quickly, defeat will never be far from you. Start playing with the brain not with lust, if you can get a win from a small bet, have fun with a small bet, at least when you leave the casino you can still bring home money.
We have different strategy so if op is winning with small bet then he can opt to continue playing with such amount to win. Just do what you think is favorable to you while having fun so you won't think of you're spending money just to lose. Don't forget to only gamble on reputable sites to be certain that the casino is not cheating you and can pay your winnings even it's a huge amount.


Title: Re: Are Casino Sites Cheating Us?
Post by: ethereumhunter on March 26, 2023, 04:30:20 AM
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There are times that we can't think that way even on trusted casino maybe this is due to frustrations we have for losing streaks we encounter. Its quite normal since after we can get over with it for sure we realize that we lose because of the mistakes we commit while playing. And we need to know that as long as we gamble on trusted casino for sure we can get less doubt about the fairness of the game.
If you experience frustration, I suggest you rest and don't gamble in the next few days instead you encounter other bad things because usually when we are in a state of frustration or stress, it can trigger us to do things that are out of the ordinary and can get great results bad. By playing gambling at a trusted casino, we can provide comfort and we won't think all about the bad things that might happen, especially if we just want to have fun gambling. We will not do anything that could result in our account being scrutinised and investigated by the casino.


Title: Re: Are Casino Sites Cheating Us?
Post by: QueenVera on March 26, 2023, 05:03:09 AM
At some point when we're losing, we tend to think the house is cheating us and when we win, we feel and think we are too good at playing the game and one thing I've learnt so far is to know when to stop and I always try my possible best not to get so addicted to gambling and op, what truly matters is that we figure out what truly matters and what is good for us, and it seems you are not good with playing with huge amount of money, so I will advice that stick to playing for fun with smaller amount of money as well combing in some small profits while having fun rather than wanting to go in big with expectations of coming out big which isn't guaranteed in gambling.
I don't think the house is cheating as most of the games are provably fair.


Title: Re: Are Casino Sites Cheating Us?
Post by: Mr. Magkaisa on March 26, 2023, 06:13:37 AM
Most of the time I play Blackjack & Dice.  I have always noticed that when I bet a large amount I am a loser when it comes to Dice.  Also in case of Blackjack when I bet big amount I get wrong card due to which I lose the bet. On the other hand when I bet small amount I win in case of Dice and if I bet small amount multiple times I win multiple times.  In Blackjack, when I bet small amounts, I am always get good cards and win the bets. Thus the cycle continues.  I have noticed that it is not an easy thing to withdraw from having achieved something great. I always gamble for fun with small amounts and lose them but I don't care. But I started playing blackjack yesterday with $1k and noticed that the casino sites are somehow cheating us. I lost my $1k yesterday. through Blackjack. What do you think about casino site algorithms?  Are they cheating with us?

     -   This is all I can tell you mate, remember there is no casino that exists here in the crypto space for them to give an opportunity to all the gamblers who will enter their platform in just one day, this is a business, what can you expect to earn here? of course it's not like that.

The house edge always wins, keep that in your mind, that's why the risk is high when you play gambling in a casino, at the beginning you will experience winning and then when they see that you are putting a large amount there, they will take it back from you, but your feeling who have experienced winning, they have implanted that in your personality, so as a result, you will return to their casino again and again.


Title: Re: Are Casino Sites Cheating Us?
Post by: Helena Yu on March 26, 2023, 07:38:24 AM
They can manipulate their system and make us losers and if they can do that we have nothing to do. Gambling on casinos is very risky as if any admin sees a large amount then they can manipulate it though for the small amount they do not manipulate it. And it does not depend on all the casinos. I think blackjack will not do this type of manipulation for only 1k dollars.
You're just making an assumptions, how it's possible the casino can manipulate their system if they give a way to us how to verify each bet using cryptography and the bet is differ from one to another. If you tend to lose when you bet with high amount money and you tend to win when you bet with small amount money, it's just based on your luck and you're not gamble so long when you bet with small amount money.


Title: Re: Are Casino Sites Cheating Us?
Post by: Mauser on March 26, 2023, 08:45:40 AM
Most of the time I play Blackjack & Dice.  I have always noticed that when I bet a large amount I am a loser when it comes to Dice.  Also in case of Blackjack when I bet big amount I get wrong card due to which I lose the bet. On the other hand when I bet small amount I win in case of Dice and if I bet small amount multiple times I win multiple times.  In Blackjack, when I bet small amounts, I am always get good cards and win the bets. Thus the cycle continues.  I have noticed that it is not an easy thing to withdraw from having achieved something great. I always gamble for fun with small amounts and lose them but I don't care. But I started playing blackjack yesterday with $1k and noticed that the casino sites are somehow cheating us. I lost my $1k yesterday. through Blackjack. What do you think about casino site algorithms?  Are they cheating with us?

How many rounds did you play with your 1k USD? If it was your first time betting large amounts and you lost it, then it's not really a big sample size to make your claim we are getting cheated. In my opinion it makes no sense for casinos to adjust their winning chance based on the bet size. If gamblers find it out then the casino is ruined, nobody is going to come back after such news. Why should a casino risk their whole company on a few bets? Both blackjack and dice are already winning games for the casino, no need to adjust the percentages even further.


Title: Re: Are Casino Sites Cheating Us?
Post by: Z390 on March 26, 2023, 09:45:10 AM
It takes a survey of several users on the same site with the same case to draw conclusions from what you are experiencing. There is nothing to deceive and be deceived in this case. You play and lose, that's natural because in a game there are winners and losers.

When you play against the system, you need to use brain intelligence, if you are greedy and want to win big quickly, defeat will never be far from you. Start playing with the brain not with lust, if you can get a win from a small bet, have fun with a small bet, at least when you leave the casino you can still bring home money.
It is possible that the casino owner tuned up the chance of winning for people that use small amounts of money to gamble on the website, I have seen this happen before on a gambling website, this was a long time ago, and someone created a script that cheats the system, which works for weeks and was later detected and stopped, maybe OP is the first to be aware of this? Also it shows that the platform that OP is talking about has bad developers, such a thing shouldn't be happening, there should be some balancing in place.


Title: Re: Are Casino Sites Cheating Us?
Post by: piebeyb on March 26, 2023, 10:16:19 AM
It takes a survey of several users on the same site with the same case to draw conclusions from what you are experiencing. There is nothing to deceive and be deceived in this case. You play and lose, that's natural because in a game there are winners and losers.

When you play against the system, you need to use brain intelligence, if you are greedy and want to win big quickly, defeat will never be far from you. Start playing with the brain not with lust, if you can get a win from a small bet, have fun with a small bet, at least when you leave the casino you can still bring home money.
It is possible that the casino owner tuned up the chance of winning for people that use small amounts of money to gamble on the website, I have seen this happen before on a gambling website, this was a long time ago, and someone created a script that cheats the system, which works for weeks and was later detected and stopped, maybe OP is the first to be aware of this? Also it shows that the platform that OP is talking about has bad developers, such a thing shouldn't be happening, there should be some balancing in place.
not sure, but most casinos probably do that without users knowing, so have you ever found a lot of gamblers rich playing in casinos, I think you know the answer to that, I'm not going to say that casinos are cheating but we need to remember that anyone who gambles aware of course he already knows about this as well as the risks he has to face, so in my opinion whether the casino is cheating or we are being conned all have the same goal which is to get money. discussing this would only be a waste of time.


Title: Re: Are Casino Sites Cheating Us?
Post by: maydna on March 26, 2023, 01:59:10 PM
It takes a survey of several users on the same site with the same case to draw conclusions from what you are experiencing. There is nothing to deceive and be deceived in this case. You play and lose, that's natural because in a game there are winners and losers.

When you play against the system, you need to use brain intelligence, if you are greedy and want to win big quickly, defeat will never be far from you. Start playing with the brain not with lust, if you can get a win from a small bet, have fun with a small bet, at least when you leave the casino you can still bring home money.
It is possible that the casino owner tuned up the chance of winning for people that use small amounts of money to gamble on the website, I have seen this happen before on a gambling website, this was a long time ago, and someone created a script that cheats the system, which works for weeks and was later detected and stopped, maybe OP is the first to be aware of this? Also it shows that the platform that OP is talking about has bad developers, such a thing shouldn't be happening, there should be some balancing in place.


Title: Re: Are Casino Sites Cheating Us?
Post by: EarnOnVictor on March 26, 2023, 04:27:25 PM
It takes a survey of several users on the same site with the same case to draw conclusions from what you are experiencing. There is nothing to deceive and be deceived in this case. You play and lose, that's natural because in a game there are winners and losers.

When you play against the system, you need to use brain intelligence, if you are greedy and want to win big quickly, defeat will never be far from you. Start playing with the brain not with lust, if you can get a win from a small bet, have fun with a small bet, at least when you leave the casino you can still bring home money.
It is possible that the casino owner tuned up the chance of winning for people that use small amounts of money to gamble on the website, I have seen this happen before on a gambling website, this was a long time ago, and someone created a script that cheats the system, which works for weeks and was later detected and stopped, maybe OP is the first to be aware of this? Also it shows that the platform that OP is talking about has bad developers, such a thing shouldn't be happening, there should be some balancing in place.
not sure, but most casinos probably do that without users knowing, so have you ever found a lot of gamblers rich playing in casinos, I think you know the answer to that, I'm not going to say that casinos are cheating but we need to remember that anyone who gambles aware of course he already knows about this as well as the risks he has to face, so in my opinion whether the casino is cheating or we are being conned all have the same goal which is to get money. discussing this would only be a waste of time.
Casinos are certainly not cheating us, cheating is only when they are not fair with their mode of operation or terms and conditions of their services as claimed. I've seen some that don't make anything from casinos, and I have a few that are making regular money, but this can't be much to make them rich. So, I believe one should think of the experience around them to conclude if they want to gamble or not, and also established the reason for gambling.

As an adult, any conclusion they reach should be void of complaints.


Title: Re: Are Casino Sites Cheating Us?
Post by: Fredomago on March 26, 2023, 06:49:37 PM
It takes a survey of several users on the same site with the same case to draw conclusions from what you are experiencing. There is nothing to deceive and be deceived in this case. You play and lose, that's natural because in a game there are winners and losers.

When you play against the system, you need to use brain intelligence, if you are greedy and want to win big quickly, defeat will never be far from you. Start playing with the brain not with lust, if you can get a win from a small bet, have fun with a small bet, at least when you leave the casino you can still bring home money.
It is possible that the casino owner tuned up the chance of winning for people that use small amounts of money to gamble on the website, I have seen this happen before on a gambling website, this was a long time ago, and someone created a script that cheats the system, which works for weeks and was later detected and stopped, maybe OP is the first to be aware of this? Also it shows that the platform that OP is talking about has bad developers, such a thing shouldn't be happening, there should be some balancing in place.

Casino is a business so for sure they will adjust if they will learn that there's a risk with their system, it's not a money cow to anyone and the chance that casino are just allowing you to win for a while to let you feel the comfort and the mindset that you can overcome the system and make more earnings. Unknowing that it's also the way for the casino to trigger your lust and in the long run you will lose once the system or the strategy that you are losing is no longer working.

You'll find yourself keep trying to win but ending up losing your entire bankroll.


Title: Re: Are Casino Sites Cheating Us?
Post by: Zackgeno96 on March 26, 2023, 07:07:43 PM
If you look purely at the software, I don't think it's possible for a casino to steal or cheat you. Software is automatic, that is, if you take a casino with a considerable reputation of course. If you have a casino with cheap software then I dare not say that. But that is often not the problem with a casino. It is more about whether a casino will pay out to a player. I think you should be more concerned about that. But purely software technically a casino cannot scam you. And also the jackpot will always be paid, because the games supplier pays this and not the gambling site itself.


Title: Re: Are Casino Sites Cheating Us?
Post by: TimeTeller on March 26, 2023, 09:53:37 PM
If you look purely at the software, I don't think it's possible for a casino to steal or cheat you. Software is automatic, that is, if you take a casino with a considerable reputation of course. If you have a casino with cheap software then I dare not say that. But that is often not the problem with a casino. It is more about whether a casino will pay out to a player. I think you should be more concerned about that. But purely software technically a casino cannot scam you. And also the jackpot will always be paid, because the games supplier pays this and not the gambling site itself.

And also, if you start doubting the casino, maybe it is high time for you to move on to another reputable casino.
Because a top casino won't ruin their image as it is quite hard to establish your niche in this industry.
Once your site is exposed to cheating, that would be a very difficult thing for the casino to revive their credibility.
Either they can move on from this situation or would totally go bankrupt. So yes, go to a reputable one.