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This is a move to try to reduce promotion of gambling in the premier league with it's increasing audience, do you think it can successfully reduce the number of people who gamble? What do you think? Will these gambling platforms not just move to other sports, do you think other sports that wear their sponsors name in England will adopt this new development in the premier league?

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https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/other/premier-league-clubs-to-remove-gambling-sponsors-from-front-of-shirts/ar-AA19Ogeu

I think the keyword here will be "front" of their match day shirts. There is nothing about the back or side of the shirt. I am sure that the sponsers will find a work-around or a loophole of sorts to smear their logos on. Reducing promotions of ANYTHING is a good thing for players because we as the viewers, came to watch the players and watch them play. We did not pay for tickets to watch advertisements 24/7. But as I said, its unrealistic that there will be no more gambling or other advertisements, they will just find different ways to show them.

I think not, they're just removing the sponsorship on their t-shirt but gamblers know that gambling will still exist even if they removed it. I think it has possible effects on other sports too. This might have an effect on the short term but not likely to reduce some good amount of gamblers.

Not gonna affect people.

People still gonna gamble, especially in "Football" which generated the most revenue on gambling. As you can see, even in the World Cup on QATAR with most religions countries.

Gambling revenue comparing 2018 world cup has just increase 13% without any betting sponsor.

It might make these companies less visible to the younger generations, many people look up to these footballers are their heroes and icons, when they scan their shirt and see a gambling site they might think that it's perfectly normal. Let's face it though, 99.99% of people who use these sites are likely to lose their whole deposit in the long run and you've just got to hope that they do not deposit every penny they own trying to scrape back to breakeven. It will help, but the fact that the animated boards around the side of pitches are still allowed - I'm not sure how successful it'll be. Those boards are potentially much more eye catching and are still highly visible on TV screens.

Meh, there will still be ways for organizations to promote gambling. They're literally just removing the right to put them up on player's shirt until the said specified time. It's like putting your son on a no-phone ground after you find out he's been using the blender to mince frogs. But going back, yeah players will still be able to promote gambling sites in other ways, and even if they don't nothing's really stopping a dedicated gambler to play his favorite sports betting match. So it's a matter of futility really if you'll ask me. But whatever, whether they crackdown on sports gambling the industry will remain, they may even settle to another game or organization if ever, there's nothing that effectively stops sports betting from ever reaching its target audience really.

It would not have much on an impact in the amount of concurrent gamblers in our society, this is rather a measure which comes out a sense of duty or morality. It has much to do with the personal religion of each one of us and how the teams decide to manage their sponsorships and partners.

If we talk about advertisement, there are hundreds of other ways which could be used for casinos to reach the public and appeal to them, to be honest.

There's no way we could be able to say that it was effective or something until the league finishes or over because we know that even those companies or platforms arent been shown or put up into their shirts but still
it cant be told that people wont really be that able to gamble.Yes, it might lessen out since it cant really be seen if we do speak about ads.Companies or gambling platforms plans whether they would really
switching into other sports then its their choice to make because we know that there's no point on spending up if you cant really be able to be exposed on particular huge events.
Increasing number of gamblers is inevitable.

I also think this will not create any difference in gambling. People will continue to gamble because they were used to it most particularly for football as it’s gaining a lot of popularity and demand from all gamblers all over the world. So with or without betting sponsor, gambling will still be a big hit for football as most of the audience too are probably fond in gambling.

Gambling sites that are advertising through matchs on the football player jerseys are wrong. It is very wrong because kids and under 18s are watching the matches. The best places for such advertisments should be where adults are the ones capable most of visiting, such as this site, Bitcointalk.

It is said that gambling ads would be removed from the front of players shirt, maybe this would mean another thing in a way they can advertise it through another method, but such ads are not good. The gambling sites should come to forums, like Bitcointalk for advertising, not where kids will be watching them.

The club can still have it based on the excerpt from the article.
The gambling company sponsoring Premier League is not only the only way to promote their platform and will not reduce the number of gamblers, gamblers will continue to gamble and those who are inclined to gamble will find their way to the gambling platform.
As long as there are totally no restrictions on promoting gambling platforms, gambling companies can find a way to sponsor other events, they have the money and some events need sponsors.

^Definitely right and I agree with you all.
Based on my knowledge other sports may not be as receptive to gambling sponsors or may have different regulations around sponsorship, so it is unclear if other sports will follow the Premier League's lead. But I think it will depend on how those sports view the issue and the impact that gambling sponsorship has on their brand and reputation. However, it is unclear news and it could be the impact of removing gambling sponsors from matchday shirts is difficult to predict.

Advertising for all businesses is not limited to football jerseys, there are many ways that gambling providers can advertise. Content creators, influencers, online ads, offline ads and so on. So, even though they can't advertise on football club jerseys, gambling providers can still develop their business through other marketing. In fact, online ads have the opportunity to find prospects for gamblers who are right on target.

This is one of gambling strategy data you can read (based on 2021 study)
https://www.researchgate.net/publication/349634808_Gambling_Marketing_Strategies_and_the_Internet_What_Do_We_Know_A_Systematic_Review

It will lessen the exposure of gambling platforms but I do not think that it will have an effect to the gambling industries.  Even though the banners of the gambling platform is removed from the front of the athletes matchday shirts, there is no regulation preventing them to put it on the back or on the short of the athlete.  Even if they completely remove these banners from the outfit of players, they still have banners everywhere in the stadium.  So at the end, it won't have an effect at all.





Gambling platforms will always try to promote their platform so it is obvious that they will try to approach other sports.  About the outfit of players, if it became a regulation then others will follow, else, it would be waste if a team lost sponsorship so I think other team will think hardly about following it.

I don't think it will affect people directly, meaning gambling will continue but indirectly it will reduce the number of gamblers. The interest in gambling is not because these teams have gambling sponsors on their shirts, but the interest in gambling is very clear due to other factors such as entertainment or something like that.

Even without sponsors, gamblers will still gamble on a particular site according to their wishes. But there's chance England could can reduce the growth rate of gamblers after going without sponsors on some teams' shirts.

Nope its not, people will gamble even if they would not see those adds on their shirts since as long as they can see a opportunity to place a bet on their favorite team and there's a platform exist where they can do that they continue to gamble. And besides there are so many ways gambling sites advertise so for sure they could reach up to more bigger audiences and can influence people to gamble especially when crucial games coming on the league.

Gamblers will always be gamblers. But such move may reduce potential gamblers.
Because some hard core fans will only gamble if they see their idols to be promoting a specific site or company.
But if you have the interest in gambling, you will always find a way how to gamble, even not promoted by prominent athletes.
Remember, it is only one avenue how a gambling site is being promoted, there are other marketing options to promote a site.

I don’t see it will affect gamblers at all. What the team did is only to remove gambling sponsorship in their shirts but it has nothing to do with the gamblers in the long run. Besides, football is where most gamblers bet, and for sure it will always continue as long as their favorite football team still exists. Maybe this is just a little misinterpretation I guess.

This doesn't make any big impact. These are just self consoling plans from the gambling platforms. Throughout the match the light boards around the ground runs different advertisement. Most of the sponsor ads can be seen on the light boards. So, in one way or the other the sponsor ads were visible to the audience.

Very few follow the ads whereas the majority have got their schedule with sports betting. They just gamble on those specific matches. For this reason the audience never look upon the ads and the prime focus will be on the teams and the players.

There is no point for them to do that. What's football if viewers are not gambling? What are their reasons for trying to reduce gambling?
The ads before the match, during halftime and after the match are all gambling ads. Majority of the ads on the light boards are gambling ads, sports betting ads, online casinos.
Aside that, I feel this is not fair to gambling companies. So a beer company can have their name on the front of club jerseys but gambling companies can't?
I just don't see how this is going to reduce the number of people that gamble.

Interesting decision by Premier League representatives but what about back side of the shirt?
I doubt it will cause huge difference before and after this decision, marketing teams still do their best to promote the bookies even if they don't let it on front side of player's shirt. Maybe it will has some effect in the long term, let's see what will numbers show us after few years.

I think it won't change even if the players' soccer jerseys are completely abolished, it will only reduce the cost of screen printing on shirts, the rest of the gambling platforms can still sponsor football matches and their platforms appear on billboards next to the football field and I think there are still many ways to advertise the gambling platform in other ways to increase the expansion of advertising within the primary league, if it does have an impact I think in terms of adoption it might be slower but the policy won't affect anything other than that in my opinion.

It can reduce the number of people who gamble but also will not reduce the number of people because if people already know about the match schedule, they will still bet on the team of their choice. Casinos will also continue to provide betting on matches of many sports because they know that people need a place to be still able to bet.

And if you see that people are still going to bet, the casinos or sports betting sites will likely still be around and provide people with betting schedules. And even if it were banned in the UK, people could still use casinos or sports betting sites that originated outside the UK.

Isn't it like, kind of too late? Sponsorships on their shirts were really effective in the past since people only had those (and some minor sources probably) as a source of advertisement, but with how the internet and social media has developed and how people are growing into it, they can probably get away with doing most of it online.

Football fans especially know how there's a lot of gamblers among their midst, and anyone entering the scene would probably get to hear it themselves here and there. I reckon whichever platform used to advertise there would be affected, but only temporarily and shouldn't be that big of an effect itself.

The bomb was already planted.
Even if they take out the sponsors' names on the shirts of every player in every sport, the mind of the people already knew where they can put their bets.
Plus, there are other ways to do it. Commercials, advertising, and more. I think they just want to make more money out of these businesses. The payment will be higher for TV channel owners and it would go directly to them instead of paying up the team owner.
Who knows if they are really the ones making all this ruckus about taking it out of their shirts so that the profits will be for them only?
If these gambling businesses are not doing commercials anymore, there's none coming in for them but they cannot blame them, it's a different world now with streaming services available.

Not at all, any kind of stopping of promotions on some platform cannot stop or even reduce the people who gamble. That's not effective as what it is.
Remember the banning of bitcoin advertisement in Google and Facebook or even on all of the social media sites? Besides people get more interested about it, then later get another ATH.

Just like that, even those who are aware of their gambling activity as a hobby, entertainment or addiction cannot affect that mere reducing of promotion or visibility of these "gambling company" in the public.

This is only one event it will have no impact at all unless they restrict gambling in their country, but a restriction on gambling promotions will not reduce the number of people gambling, gamblers will be looking for casinos to play online or offline whether there's a promotion or no promotion.
The ones that will suffer are new casino platforms but old gambling platforms they are already established their brand for easy recall among gamblers.

Nope.

Most casinos that have been advertising through the "front" shirt have already capitalized the popular of the teams they're sponsorsing. And it won't reduce the number of gamblers that have been gambling already but instead could potentially just slow down the growth but not the reduction of gamblers.

The exposure can be reduced but that doesn't mean that there's no other way that the audiences won't see those logos throughout the matches from the PL.

Though it will not have that much impact, I think it is still a fair move for the league to implement this kind of prohibition to limit gambling sponsors. Though I do agree that this kind of implementation is just a "front" in order to boost their image to the public but it will not affect anything at all.

If the league is really concerned in addressing the issues with gambling, then they must implement measures that will indeed remove any kind of gambling sponsorship on their advertisements or promotions.

Well this is gambling and anything can actually happen at anytime.
But I also don't think that removing gambling sponsors from the front if their match day shirt will really stop people or reduce the number of persons who bet or gamble on English premier League, tis is because this is one tod the biggest leagues and people are already anticipating this matches and we all know that this is one period that bit the gambler ls and also the casino and gambling houses make alot of money and the awareness and consciousness to gamble is already there  but I think it will also reduce the sponsorship of this casinos in the forthcoming premier League.

Personally, I don't think this move will really work in reducing the number of people who gamble. Sure, it's a good thing they're trying to cut down on promoting gambling in the Premier League because more and more people are watching it, but the demand will still be there. The gambling platforms will probably just move on to other sports or try to reach their audience in other ways.

I've always believed that the front of any football team's jerseys is much prettier when it only has your club crest on it and nothing else.
Likewise, the upper part of the back should only contain the player's name, followed by the number and an advertisement below it.
The others, should come in the sleeves of the shirts, only.

About reducing the promotion to gambling, I doubt it, because the advertisements that are released on the sides of the field have much more visibility and impact (when well elaborated on the electronic panel) than those static images on the players' shirts.

Removing gambling adverts from matchday shirts doesn't necessarily mean total removal gambling sponsored adverts on players' shirts, only the matchday shirt will not carry casino adverts, but then this will reduce the level of the advert visibilities greatly since not all fans will watch the training sections that the advert are allowed, but the whole world will watch premier league match and that is the best exposure for those casinos.

Well since this has become the case, it. Will become necessary for those casinos to look else were to promote the platforms with fewer restrictions, I think the move is in line with government policy to reduce gambling exposure mostly among those under age who may find football an interesting sport to watch.

Less gambling sponsorship means less exposure for the casinos so yes it should reduce the number of new gamblers visiting their casino when EPL is one of the most watched leagues.

But like what goldkingcoiner said, there are still ways for casinos to partner up with EPL teams though so that upcoming change in sponsorship might not be that significant.

Instead of moving, they'll just try to expand as they can still get some exposure in the EPL even though they're not the main sponsor and possibly spend the remaining budget with another team.

Probably they are doing this to make the essence of the sports emphasize rather the betting itself. Premier League probably realized that spectators usually focus on gambling rather than the sports itself due to their bets.


Nope, it can’t decrease the number of people gambling since the Premier League match is not the place which gambling advertise their company. Online bookie is already widespread online and a simple act like this won’t affect the general economy of gambling industry.

About other sports. It’s due to the management discretion whether they will follow but I think they will not since sponsorships is what makes the franchise profitable to run in long term.

 












I agree with these fellas that it won't have much of an impact, if at all. In the end I think that gambling ads will be like tobacco ads, which will be banned around the world, although people will continue to smoke and gamble.If the public authorities wanted to, they could ban smoking and gambling, and although this would increase the black market, it would greatly reduce the number of smokers and gamblers. In the end, I see these measures as part of an overall policy of demonization of activities that is complemented by high taxes.

Isn't the ban only on the front of the player's costume? meaning that it can still be included in other parts such as the arm or the back and also this regulation will take effect in 2026/2027 meaning that there will still be plenty of time for clubs and sponsors to determine the steps for this ban. https://www.skysports.com/football/news/11095/12856367/premier-league-clubs-agree-to-withdraw-gambling-sponsorships-on-front-of-shirts
But is it possible to reduce people from gambling? I don't think so because they will still get information from many things, and the old match videos that are still circulating will also allow many people to see the sponsors of the gambling site.
Of every step taken to reduce gambling, it will not work 100% perfectly unless the government or the internet shuts down permanently, although they can still gamble at offline casinos or bet with friends when matches are held.

If the decision to remove gambling companies ad from front page of jersey, it will have some effect on it because the increase to gambling is because the ads is in face of everyone. There is reason and difference of front page ads and back page. If the price for front page ads and back page ads is not the same, the effect will not be the same.

In truth, the increase in viewership in the Premier League is not all related to sports betting, but to the number of fans of football teams playing.
This is only natural, considering that after the Covid19 pandemic all activities are allowed, so football lovers flock to watch the matches of their proud team.
Maybe the number of gamblers is increasing rapidly especially in sports betting, but not all of them will watch live games because they prefer to watch Livestreaming and still be able to monitor what they are betting on.
By the way, sports betting is gaining more and more interest among gamblers, especially football.

There is a lot of access to gambling advertising everywhere, not only on football club shirts, even at other sporting events, there are also many sponsors from gambling sites, social media, forums and others. After all, this method is not really effective in my opinion, especially on the pretext of reducing the number of people those who gamble, it is very impossible because we know that every day gambling continues to increase and many new gamblers play gambling in online and offline casinos directly.

Some people who say in this thread are also right that not all football spectators come to see advertisements, especially t-shirts sponsored by gambling sites, they are more focused on watching football matches and that makes sense. In my opinion, this method will not be effective, but if indeed they have agreed to remove gambling sponsors, that is their right, even though the results will be in vain  ;)

If this will help reduce the number of underage involving in gambling activities, therefore, i will say that it is a nice initiative by EPL

As for gamblers that are above 18,this wouldn't make any difference, since there are so many gamblers that don't watch football because they are not football freaks. It will only affect the gambling companies that does their advert on the front shirt,in the sense that gamblers that love trying new casino will not see their advert to attempt them to try the casino for betting. Sport is gambling and gambling activities is part of human nature,so even if there are no adverts,a gambler will always gamble.

Not that much in my opinion. It might probably lessen the exposure of the gambling site but the number of gamblers won't reduce that much after all they already know the gambling sites on where are they going to play. Not because they remove the name in the game or whenever in the event, doesn't mean people will stop playing gambling or place bet on that certain sport.

I don't think it has any influence on the adoption of gambling, in this case only a small part can be obtained as the popularity of the gambling platform from sponsoring and storing their names on the jerseys of the players I think it is not very effective because it can still do advertising in other sectors besides in the clothes of the players but still within the scope of the English premier league.
The rules are clear only regarding the name of the gambling platform in the shirt being banned, that doesn't mean banning teams from accepting sponsorship of gambling there are still many ways to advertise in this league, and I don't think it should move because it's not a complete ban.

Gambling is indeed like the culture of humanity. It has been in existence for a long time it is as old as man. It might be impossible to regulate its spread. But this policy will limit the rate of the spread of gambling because promotion helps to attract gamblers to some gambling platforms. It will also hurt the finance of many clubs because some of them rely on these endorsement deals to run the club. The government will also lose some tax revenue because the income from both the clubs and gambling firms will reduce. The government is claiming it wants to reduce gambling addiction in the country. Let's see how it will work and the level of impact.

I also read this news yesterday, it seems to have started before now, only a few clubs in the EPL that are not complying yet, so the grace of your quoted time is now agreed upon. Personally, I don't see how this would stop or regulate gambling, even the stadium that hosts the players would still be displaying/advertising companies in which casinos/sportsbooks would still be among them.

It's just a means to reduce the earning of some clubs, nothing serious could influence the number of gamblers in society. Those companies are only advertising so that people will prefer them, not that they are newly creating gamblers in most cases as this makes them viewed.

The Premier League is one of the most popular football leagues in the world and without any doubt everything they promote has a wide audience and a great influence. Obviously, someone from the institutions dealing with the problem of gambling addiction presented the data on the basis of which such a decision was made, but one should not think that the clubs will just give up that money - because gambling advertising will continue to be on their sleeves. Less visible, but still visible.


The source is the link from OP.

That move (hiding sponsors) isnt going to help at all. For example take a look on a smoking industry. In some countries smoking ads are prohibited. In some countries, at shops/at the cash desks, cigarette both are covered by opaque screens, people still buy them. Cigarette packs have pictures of lung cancer and other diseases - people still buy them. People know that smoking habit is bad - they continue to smoke. Why people think that hiding gambling logos will decrease number of gamblers then?

I think gamblers wouldn't bother a lot with uniform brandings. Yeah when you put a brand right in front of your uniform its lot more visible. Especially on tv, only thing you see in high definition is like brand in front of when cameras zoom in. Anyways I don't think it will stop people from gambling. It may definitely decrease popularity of gambling among kids. Kids love to watch football here and United Kingdom I am sure. If they see less amount of ads of casinos it may be effective.

There's really have an impact on team jersey advertisement since it can be seen by global audience world wide. But we are talking about gambling anything about sports there's gambling activities attached on it, so whatever the league do regarding on banning gambling advertisement they cannot stop fans to gamble because this add up the excitement while watching the result.

Sportsbetting is so famous so even if they stop advertising this, it gain root already on the industry so expect if there's big game or  playoffs takes place.

gambling is one of the freedoms of every person that can be exercised freely by anyone and if you only remove sponsorship from soccer players' shirts, I don't think that will stop gamblers from betting or reduce people from being involved in gambling.
from several cases such as the state prohibiting all forms of gambling but people in that country can still gamble through online gambling. so that if you only remove sponsorship on soccer player shirts you will never be able to reduce the gambling population.

How it's make sense removing casino brand in front of the player's jersey will reduce number of gamblers? you need to use your logic.

Let's say I know gambling because I see the casino brand of a player jersey and I keep gambling until now, then I didn't see the casino brand in front of the player's jersey now, but the casino which I play is still run and become more trusted than was I knew it, will I stop gambling? nope.

The casino is still trusted, nothing to worry.

There are rumours that it is only in front, meaning they can still put it in the back, so there are still promotions, but it is not that visible to the camera when closed up. But whatever it is, there are still a lot of leagues or sports that they can advertise. Also, gambling is really known right now, online or offline. Even without advertising it in sports, only in social media or through promoters, people will hear about it and gamble if they want to.

Gambling activity in the region is already to the point that it can be called "a big thing" there. Therefore, any kind of prohibited gambling promotions won't have any effect at all on reducing the number of gamblers. These people are already used to doing sports betting.

The Premier league just agreed to remove any kinds of promotions on the matchday shirts but still "tied up" to the gambling sponsors.

If the purpose is to reduce the number of gamblers then make sports betting there illegal lol. But that won't happen.

I think it will not affect most of gamblers because it doesn't affect the game as well as their bets.
I guess it will be better if they will switch to a more effective strategy if their goal is to reduce the number of gamblers.
We all know that gamblers will always find ways to gamble and removing sponsor brands will not hinder them to enjoy sports betting.
Gambling still exists freely so there's no sense in removing brand logos.

If only to reduce the type of gambling promotion, it still makes sense especially to prevent teenagers from gambling. but to reduce the number of people who gamble, it seems something that will be a long debate. why, because, we are no strangers to gambling, in fact there are many media that can be a place of promotion for gambling. for example, what we most often encounter related to gambling promos is on the internet. whether it's from site advertisements, applications, social media, YouTube, everything can be a promotional tool for casino business people.

So, the question is, is what the Premier League management is doing a good idea or solution, of course not at all. after all, they just said "voluntarily" well, is this obligatory. if we refer to the keyword "voluntary" it means, can be followed or not. one more thing, i agree with what @goldkingcoiner said. that is, the clubs sponsored by the casino, can put the casino's name behind the back, or wherever it is, except for the front.

There are no proof that the reduction in marketing will reduce gambling, because they promote it on lots of other platforms. The reduction in gamblers should not be needed, if responsible gambling were promoted.

I see a lot of gambling sites are now advertising with a warning that gambling might be addictive and that they are supporting responsible gambling. I think they realize that gambling addiction are tainting their reputation and they want to prevent that.  ;)

well, amount of gamblers is not an issue. this is enough to avoid pathological people to join? I don't think ....
Also because gambling in itself is not dangerous it is simply an activity like many others.
I believe that the "real problem" arises when people at risk of addiction start to bet like minors or people who cannot understand the danger of risk higher amount of cash.

It will increase the number of gamblers into the competition due to the premium leagues. Gambling is all the time favourite one to the gamblers, So the gamblers always target on the gambling. The sports betting increases the gamblers to the gambling websites daily, even though their are huge offline gambling was their. Gambling people do gambling on all the sports based betting. The football is all the time available game, so the betting on the football are ever green concept.The effect of sports on the gambling was keep on alive one, people with good knowledge in the sports will earn some good money using the gambling. Some people not know about this one and wasting their sports knowledge only to argue with their friends and their is no use by that arguments.

I agree with your statement that when advertising through sponsorship on soccer team shirts is removed, it will not have any effect on increasing or decreasing the number of gamblers but only reducing gamblers from becoming more addicted to betting.
In fact, in this case I am still a little doubtful whether the regulation will actually be applied, even though it has been a long time ago when football teams were sponsored by any gambling for mutual benefit.

For sure it would be revoked or would really be removed later on considering that they would really be looking for its benefit rather than on blocking or prohibiting it out without even having the assurance that it could really be that lessening up the number of possible gamblers if they would tend to removed it so.This is why it would really be that understandable if decisions would really be having that u-turn but
if this one turns out to be finalized then it would be understandable that advertisement and sponsorships would definitely be going into other sport.
There's no way on these things to be stopped considering that this is one of the most effective way when it comes to advertisement or simply with marketing.

You can barely see those logos on the uniform of the players so this might not be effective.
If they really want to decrease number of new comers going into gambling, then banned any gambling advertisements because this is their best way to attract players. Removing a logo can help might not be effective, many will still try a site because they are curious about it and many want’s to have some income as well with their bets.

I don’t see what OP has shared will take an effect to gamblers. As much as there is good team to bet, gamblers will never stop from gambling, regardless if there is no betting sponsor. Most particularly for an event like football, everyone is eyeing on it, so expect that the more viewers will pay to watch it, the bigger amount of gamblers will be more visible.

^That is right and it could be true.
While it may be true that premium leagues and sports betting can attract more gamblers, it could be there is an outcome to this. Gambling addiction can have serious negative impacts on individuals and their loved ones. Considering the ethics of promoting gambling as a means to make money.
However, that is true that removing sponsorship advertising from soccer team shirts may not have a significant impact on the number of gamblers, but it can still be a step toward reducing the harmful effects of gambling addiction. By reducing the visibility of gambling sponsors, individuals may be less likely to feel encouraged to engage in excessive gambling behaviors. But as you pointed out, it remains to be seen whether such regulations will be strictly enforced. I think let us advocate for responsible gambling practices and measures that prioritize the safety and well-being of individuals over profits.

Yeah, Premier League dropping gambling sponsors, is a step I think is in the right direction. Less exposure to gambling advertisement, means less new people joining gambling, and less "cravings" for already addicted gamblers. But, will it totally solve the problem? Nah, probably not. It could work because removing those gambling names from shirts means fewer people seeing them, right? So, it's kind of a like "out of sight, out of mind" thing, which could help some people avoid getting into gambling. But these gambling companies won't just sit back and chill. They'll definitely find other ways to advertise, like targeting other sports or going hard on online ads.  It's not just about ads. It's also about education and support for people with gambling problems. Maybe replace those ads with gambling addiction support organizations?

Banning gambling ads can reduce the number of visits to casinos but the problem is whether all casinos will approve it and for how long because casinos also need lots of new people who can see their ads in many places. Perhaps moving the ad's display time to midnight, when minors could not view it, would be advisable. But still, people who are at risk of gambling addiction can become victims of gambling addiction.

It seems that the government has to think of every way to reduce the number of people who will gamble so that the number of people who are addicted to gambling can really decrease. Maybe the government should associate it with its citizens that playing gambling is not good for their finances and can lead to gambling addiction.

from what I see, the sponsors of gambling sites on Matchday shirts don't have a big influence on the number of gamblers.

So far, gambling advertisements are not only on the shirts of the football teams they sponsor but also on the running banners on the field's sidelines. Gambling is a business that will never die even though various methods are carried out, apart from that there are many people who already consider gambling as their habit even if there is or not ads from the gambling site that is on the shirt of the football item they are watching.

 

and I think there is a possibility that the regulation will not really be officially implemented in the coming year. because it is still in 2023 and the regulations will be formalized in 2025/2026. in the passage of time which may be a little longer sometimes the rules may change and I think gambling will still live and gamblers will always increase every year.
because gambling ads will always be circulating everywhere, not just through the clothes on the soccer team. so this kind of effort will only make pros and cons in the future.

No way it can reduce the number of gamblers playing gamblers will continue to gamble because of the habit,  but it can reduce the number of new people joining casinos, when a country has no restriction on gambling with or without marketing ads, gamblers will gamble, those ads serve those who gamble and prefer to return gambling when there are promotional giveaways or bonuses.
Based on the article it's only on the front of the shirt but sleeves gambling sponsorship is still allowed.

The fact is, their shirt prints don't really matter to gamblers. Gamblers come because of the existence of gambling so I don't think their strategy will help reduce the increasing number of gamblers. As long as there will be gambling advertisements and ads in different ways, people would really get attracted to betting especially now that audiences don't just watch to support their favorite players but also bet on them.

I believe that teams collaborating with the Premier League to display advertisements on their shirts are required to agree to a deal that mandates all clubs to wear the ads, similar to how we saw the "NO TO RACISM" campaign. While I find this practice cool, I don't think it is necessary for clubs to advertise on gambling platforms. However, the management of the Premier League may be attempting to generate revenue for the federation through these ads.

If clubs are permitted to create their own promotions and choose the gambling companies they wish to collaborate with, it could potentially generate more revenue. It should not be solely up to the Premier League to decide which companies the clubs must work with. It's even possible that the clubs themselves could negotiate better deals than what the Premier League currently offers.

I believe it's about the people getting into it and knowing that they haven't gambled in any way, and they are the ones who will be curious about what they will do when they first try gambling. A lot o people are going to see the sponsor's brand, and people are going to try it, and that's what they are trying to limit, I think. People who are into gambling don't have that much of an effect compared to the newbies regarding sponsors, so I guess it's just fair play.

This is the total truth about this issue, gambling rates will never reduce because of the lack of sponsor from the teams in the premier league moreover the English premier league is the most watch and stream sport league in the whole world and just because few club refused to advertise gambling site on their jerseys isn't going to stop people from gambling, i mean they are still watching the soccer games every week and like what you said so far as they are still teams that people feel can give them cash when they predict  on the result nothing is going to stop them from doing so and gambling is an act that in already installed in the human nature.

Hopefully the reduction and education about the dangers of gambling can reduce the number of people who gamble so that it can be successful. But people who are used to gambling will indeed come back even though the number of gambling advertisements has decreased because they have found a casino that suits them. They will not be affected by the number of advertisements especially if their country still allows gambling without age restrictions, they can play gambling wherever they want, including using online crypto casinos that can hide their identity.

Those gambling platforms will advertise somewhere else and put their logo still visible to audiences and most likely they will also be advertising online. Who knows they are going to be in bitcointalk more.

The goal I think of removing their adverts on the shirts of the players is because it is somehow visible to fans who are kids, thereby generating minor gamblers.

Not to mention, the restriction is only for the matchday. The players are allowed to use the betting site name in the front of their shirts during practice. Each club will still have the option to make posts about the gambling sites on their social media account. Moreover, a lot of sports players have become the brand ambassador of different casinos. So, this front side ban won't create impact in the gambling industry.

what you said is true, the possibility still exists, sometimes political conditions greatly affect the rules that have been made and it is possible that this will also happen for these rules in the EPL.


based on the article above, England is the country with the world's largest online gambling market in 2021 and this is the basis for the FA being urged to tighten rules regarding gambling, especially football.
there are many clubs sponsored by gambling sites and depend on these sponsors, hopefully this rule does not affect the financial condition of the club.

I do not think that this move will reduce the gamblers or the gamblers will not bet on premier league matches. Gambling will be on the rise through the tournament however this move is only to discourage the gambling platforms apparently but in reality everyone knows that Gambling and sports exists side by side and there is no way to control the gambling on the matches.

I am not sure how this news is taken by the gambling world but for the retail gamblers, it is not much concern as our target is to gamble on the matches and gain some money out of it.

I personally do not see anyway this is going to affect gambling negatively, or reduce the number of gamblers that have been increasing exponentially.
Simply because, gambling casinos do not just rely on their logo or name printed on the front of the shirts as a means of promoting their casino, casinos still have other means of promoting their products.

So for me, premier league officials removing the gambling sponsored from the from the players jeasey, will have very little to no impact at all, in reducing the number of gamblers that find their way into gambling everyday.

Its even funny to even think they can regulate or reduce gambling with this particular move. I mean gambling has been in existence since the early human and sport like soccer has been a played a major role especially the games from the premiere league. The love developed from gamblers in this league is quite strong and stopping players from advertising isn't going to have effect on this gambling sites from advertising else where. Advertising their gambling logo can be done through many effective means by the players they can just put on customized shits advertising this gambling sites but it would be an after wear during their games.

Personally, I don't think it will have the effect of reducing the number of gambling addicts or people who play gambling for fun, because the money that was spent on gambling advertising in the Premier League will be spent in another area and I can assume that it will most likely be spent on Internet advertising. We all know how many celebrities advertise gambling. I think there will be more of them soon.

that is very true. there are so many marketing options these days. social media alone can be a very good avenue to promote a site. a lot of people are now into these media platforms. you can't stop people from using these channels so they will always see something promoted even when the government is limiting it in some medium of advertising.
so they may be limiting the exposure of gambling site to some extent, but these sites will have other modes of advertising. and people these days have net access. unless the govt will also ban some sites under their jurisdiction.

^So after all, it depends on us how to set our self-control.
We should be avoiding to have more exposure that will trigger that lead to a gambling addiction which can help reduce the urge to gamble. This may mean staying away from casinos or avoiding websites related to gambling if you cannot control yourself.
Using social media for online advertising with influencers and celebrities.

I don't even think that what the Premier League management is doing is aimed at reducing the number of people who gamble.  maybe, the league management doesn't want that casino sponsored club to put their logo on the front jersey. I'm sure the reasons are very diverse and varied, but it doesn't aim to reduce gamblers. after all, even if the club doesn't put the casino's name logo on the players' jerseys, we will still gamble. so, it will be very inefficient with what the Premier League management is doing.

Well, we agree that it will not have an impact on reducing the number of gambling addicts. and I'm sure the management of the Premier League knows very well. even if so, actually the gambling sponsors could outsmart it in various ways, for sure they will always find a way. after all, at this time in the digital era. Gambling sponsors can carry out promotions on social media, web ads, influencers, or use the services of celebrities who have big names.

One more thing related to the problem of gambling addiction, every government that legalizes gambling should provide an understanding of being a responsible gambler, they can make a site related to that, even if necessary, every casino must have guidelines to provide understanding to gamblers.

Probably this is their first big step to reduce the exposure of gambling on their sports, this can still help but not big enough to prevent younger people to get information about the gambling site being advertised. There's still a big factor that celebrities are endorsing a crypto gambling site, their influence are really a big help to a casino site but again, its not that good especially if their supporter is still a minor.

This is why most of the celebrities are being sued because of their advertisements, in my country there’s a lot of issues with celebrities endorsing a fake site, those who get victim from this are now suing that endorser and this can also happen to crypto gambling. Removing the advertisements on their uniform is still a big help, we can expect more updates from that regulations as they continue to fight the increasing number of gamblers, maybe they will fully ban this type of advertisement in the future.

Just for money the celebrities getting involved into unprofessional activities will come to an end. However this is going to be effective and it won't give immediate result. The first step is taken by the premier league and maybe other tournaments and sports too can follow it. At the same time it is also necessary to educate people about gambling and how it can be done being on the safer side. Earlier Moeen Ali based on his religious belief had an agreement with the team that he won't have any liquor company ads on his t-shirt. It could've given him the inner satisfaction and peace. Maybe more players will feel the goodness.

Of course they will find some other sport to promote from, even if all sports are banned, there will be something else. There is always platform available to promote, as long you pay the right price.

Indian premier league is also filled with fantasy league garbage, it's not exactly gambling but I'd consider it pretty close to it. I expect similar development for it as well.

good catch there mate , though front print is important  but we know that Camera Angle nowadays is 360 degrees meaning even in the armpit still the advertisement is visible so there is no really sense this at all.
and talking about premier league? all the biggest banners are all over the place , adding those tv advertisement .
maybe they are just cleaning their hands but gambling and sports are always go together and this is all about money.

It may, the advertising campaign generally targets those gamblers who may cease playing for the time being and this advertising is more to trigger them to gamble again but this is a very small portion because the gambling industry uses a lot of media platforms to promote their platform, this is more on the principle of the organizers than trying to reach a goal, other sports may adopt it but as long as other platforms allow advertising of gambling platform the reduction will not be dramatic.

This study was done three years ago but it's still relevant
Understanding how consumers engaged with gambling advertising in (https://www.gamblingcommission.gov.uk/statistics-and-research/publication/understanding-how-consumers-engaged-with-gambling-advertising-in-2020)

I don't even think if it will be successfully the number of people who gamble. To be honest gambling was legal in english. I think that we shall try to search which the main problem that was triggering EPL to implement such rules. EPL was not fully removing gambling from the advertisement or sponsorship.




If you are reading the whole of the article and then you may be getting points if EPL will be just only removing advertisements for the front of shirt. EPL is fully explaining if the club is still able to accept sponsorship from the gambling platform as long as it will be in a different area. I think that this is not greatly affecting the gambling site. It will always remaing the same at this moment or even until the regulation will be commenced.

Advertisements, promotions, sponsorships are always attached to a team or sports match because so far, a sports match is one match that is always of interest to many people to watch, even almost all people in this world have their own preferences in every existing sporting event.
It's only natural that advertising has succeeded in getting enthusiasm from many people because in advertising a match, the implementing team will do many things to get more viewers.
It is true that sports and betting are two different options, but they always go hand in hand where every sports match there must be a bet behind it.
Betting in sports cannot be stopped or limited because it has a large enough money circulation, even greater than what is generated in the sporting event.

I don't think this going to have a huge impact on the sports betting industry. First of all if the bookmakers have the money to use on marketing campaigns and advertising, then just banning them from the premier league will let them switch to other leagues or other form of advertising. The ban is not going to remove the existing customers and will likely not result in a short term impact. There are so many different ways the bookmakers could spread their company name and promotions, especially in social media there is almost no limits these days. The question will also be who is going to pick up all the free advertising space that becomes avalaible now. There will be a lot of companies who would like to get the exposure from premier league, but the gambling industry could afford to pay a lot of money for those advertisings. Let's see if other countries are going to do the same and if this is going to have a lot of impact.

any effort made to stop gambling site advertising will not be able to reduce the number of increase or decrease in gamblers but there will always be gambling advertisements through other media that people out there can see more often.
yes, it is indeed possible for this plan to keep gambling away from children because football is a favorite sport, almost all ages like this sport, so it provides regulations limiting fish on soccer team shirts. but unfortunately gambling ads can still be seen by children on Google ads and other social media.

Football isn't the only a way to attract people to gamble, you forget there are many sports don't have strict rule about gambling and they're free to open any casino who want to rent a space in their sports. With this new announcement, I don't think an old gambler will stop gamble, they will keep gamble since their country allow to gamble and there's no problem for them.

Yes even though they already advertised or they are going to advertise that people needed to stop gambling still people will do it, there's no solution to gambling addiction we only have our own self discipline in order for us to stop this addiction as early as we could. We need to learn that even how much effort does government or some sectors try to end this gambling site still the decision is in gamblers hands.

You probably haven't understood the whole thread, it's not about gamblers making bets on sports events or not, but it's about the Premier League banning casinos from being on the front of the t-shirts of players in the matches even if they are official sponsors or partners, and the question of this thread is that whether this will make any effect in decreasing the number of gamblers.

In my opinion, that will probably stop any new gamblers from getting involved with casinos that were being promoted by the teams in matches but there will probably be other ways for the clubs to promote their sponsors since they get paid for that.

There is this exchange that I'm always seeing in the front t-shirt of fighters and if that will be removed from them, I don't think that the number of its users will decrease.
They're after the new customers that they're advertising in. So, if the logo is removed from these teams, I don't think that there will be lesser gamblers that will continue to gamble from these certain casinos.
Coming up with another way to get some great exposure from these sporting events might be patronized by these companies as soon as that rule has been applied.

During my life I realized that nothing is done in the interests of ordinary people and there are more compelling reasons for this or that innovation or decision people who have at least some power.

As I understand the real reason for banning gambling advertising on T-shirts in the premier league is that someone could not agree on the money. I'm sure that after a while everything will go back to normal.

For me, I don't see any way whereby removing gambling sponsors from the front of shirts should have anyway to either increase or decrease the total number of people who gambles all around the world, because apart from Premier League sponsorships, these gambling casino has also got other ways through which they create awareness to people, of which if premier league seems to stop promoting their businesses, all they will need to do is channel their resources to other ways of creating awareness, such as Google ads, social media & online forum promotions, such as "bitcointalk signature campaign".

Many other sports attract people to gamble and because of this, the casinos provide those sports bets. The casino knows how to attract people to gamble in their casino. And this is what makes casinos often provide promotions related to ongoing sporting events and gamblers very like that because they can bet for the team or player they like. Old gamblers will not stop because they are used to gambling and already have a subscription place to gamble.

True that, gambling had already set its foothold on every corner of the world.  This action stated by @OP won't have any effect on how gambling spreads since gambling platform is scattered everywhere.  There are lots of gambling advertisements on mobile apps and websites even minors and toddlers are being reached by these gambling advertisements.  Unless the total banned of advertisements on all platforms is done, I don't think this small prevention stated by @OP will have an effect on gambling adoption.

Maybe, but I doubt it will have a noticeable effect on non-gamblers. As I remember, I was not really enticed on gambling because of the ads on the screen. I am influenced by friends and relatives who are gamblers. I bet most of us are like that as well. The real targets of the ads are those gamblers already. Maybe they can get gamblers to switch to their platforms. But I doubt non-gamblers will get enticed to gamble just because they see casino logos on screen or players' shirts.

I don't think so. Even if they take out all the advertising names in their t-shirts or jerseys, gambling sites ads are all over the dome or the field. What I mean is, there's no escaping it from the eyes of those who really want to put a bet on every game they will watch.
They are just taking out the money that will be received by those who wears it and maybe appeal that it should be brought back. Online gambling sites is a norm now, we cannot stay at our traditional beliefs just because it looks bad.
About the increasing number of gamblers, it will just keep on increasing as every gambling site becomes more accessible especially those who have applications made for phones.

wrong , not all in the world has ,because there are some that I knew who never have a chance liking any sports or person in sports.
they will get there , because we are talking about people who love to gamble together with sports.
there is a money in both , gambling and sports so indeed , they are going together everytime .

I have the same stand to the other poster and it confirms that advertising has no only one side instead there are back and left and right.
so while they are agreed in not posting in their front but what about the other angle of the ads?
there are still many banners and videos to be confirmed and that is one thing we must consider to call this as an act of kindness for gamblers.

This is not going to work, I remember reading once that the best thing that ever happened to companies which sold cigarettes and tobacco was to be banned from most forms of advertising, this is because now they did not needed to spend anything on it and they still sold a huge volume of their products, increasing their profits to very high levels, casinos offer a service which is in high demand and even if they were banned to advertise on every single sport competition around the world i do not think gambling will not get any less popular.

There is also a lot of politics involved as well. The Premier League is a powerful organization and a good tay payer, so policy makers don't have an interest to be against the Premier League in any way. I think this action is more about a socially acceptable compromise than to fight gambling in general. I also think that these sports betting companies play a vital role in creating revenue for the clubs. There are lists and these days I think between one third to one half are sponsored by sports betting providers. The industry is also so strong these days that I am sure they have intense lobbying going on as well.

It is also difficult to tell and measure whether removing advertisements from certain locations has an impact on gambling activities. The industry is booming so much that these companies have endless cash to promote their services anyway. If it is not in soccer, it is in other places.

It would do some good to suppress the visibility of some casino brands, but would not discourage all forms of gambling as there is plenty of free advertising space on every side of the stadium and even outside. What I do know, football is the country's most popular means of entertainment, betting on favorite clubs is almost on the agenda of spectators throughout the league season.

We know that there are lots of mediums on which advertising or exposure could really be that possible.If its banned nor prohibited with those tshirt prints or banners on certain big leagues then companies would really
be looking or tending to find for another places on which they could be able to advertise. Dont know on whats the reason if they would really be blocking it out because if they do really focus about gambling addiction and exposure in younger audiences then so be it but companies or platforms wont really be stopping in speaking about marketing. They would really be finding ways for them do be able to
continue about their exposure even on different means.

I don't really think that we are in an era where there are free advertising spaces available within or outside any stadium, especially football stadiums unless your advertisement is written on a small banner that you have multiple prints of and you just fix them on walls everywhere, that's how you can do free advertisement, and I'm not even sure if that's legal in every country.

And about the advertisements on the t-shirts of the players, that actually makes a lot of influence and a free advertisement wouldn't do that magic. People who are fans of certain players or clubs tend to follow what they do or promote, so it probably does make a difference if they promote something or if they don't.

It is not the sponsors but the gamblers that should be controlled if the management aims to reduce the individuals who would bet on the tournament. Even if the names of the gambling platforms are not on the players' shirt, if those sites are already known, their players would automatically engage with betting especially if they are into that particular sport. Some gamblers are not even that interested with the platform that they are playing with, they are just into the games being offered, bonuses, and rewards. Not seeing the names of their platform would less likely lessen the number of bettors. The number of gamblers would more likely decrease only if there will be further restrictions on the gambling sites' overall accessibility.

even though there are no free ads anywhere, gambling can afford to pay for every ad that is displayed anywhere, such as ads on Google.
so gambling will always try to advertise their site in various places even though it's not free, the most important thing is that gambling sites can be known and seen by the public.
if advertising on soccer player shirts is banned there are plenty of other places for gamblers to share their ads.

A gambler will always remain a gambler, nothing can change it except for a gambler that has lost it and may require help to get his self together, there is nothing they can do to change casino and bookmakers on the sport, half of the people that watch match gamble and some of them don't do it becuase they are trying to make a living but they are doing it becasue they enjpoyed it and love football. I think some of this sportbooks and casinos also sponsored football, what will happened to those fund they received from them, they can't deny that those fund has not been helpful, they should limit it instead of trying to stop them completely.

It does have an impact because ads are so powerful and it can make someone curious to try and later on be hooked on it. Soccer is a popular game and almost everyone watches it so removing it will hurt the gambling company.

The industry is booming and those who are on top are benefiting already but starters will have a hard time to catch up and they only have limited cash so they must use it wisely. If not and then they don't get the result they wanted, it will be game over for them. Only big gambling companies are so far can avail promotions on soccer leagues due to the expensive it cost but you're right that there are still other places which are also more affordable to advertise their brand.

It can be possible but it has little effect on the increasing number of gambling.
It is just the front shirt and not the sides, the sponsors will definitely find another means of advertising gambling.
The advertisement can always be done on television stations either before, during or after the match.
And for those that pay ticket to watch the live match at the stadium are much interested in their team to win and not the advertisement.
The increment of gambling does not necessary require advertisement.

It's kinda useless if it works like that. It will be better to not remove it if they can't remove the other. To see gamblers increase is not a bad thing but this can also be healthy. Government or the economy of ones country can benefit with it, then the club or the sports players can also benefit through sponsorships of gambling companies. This was just give and take. What is bad is if most of the gamblers are now addicted.

The most effective way to reduce people from gambling is by banning gambling on that country. Any forms of it including offline. The government can also do a campaign that someone will be rewarded if they will report the people who tries to gamble secretly.

I get what you are saying but do you think that an advertisement on the jersey of a soccer team on the front is worse or advertisements scattered all over the Internet with catchy banners left, right and center on your screen? Or online advertisements on Youtube when celebrities talk to you about how amazing BWIN is or one of the other sports betting providers? As soon as you like some sport or even a lot of it and you do some searches on backgrounds because you are interested in watching game, you probably come across a dozen offers for bonuses to join a certain platform right now and start your journey.

Advertisements on places like a jersey of a soccer team further legitimizes it and may perhaps reduce the perceived risk factor, but the real deal of advertising happens on the Internet anyway in an almost unstoppable manner.

We know that there's always a criticism in towards on the other side of things without even trying to look out the other benefits or pros which is something that needs to be considered out.
Its understandable that protecting people from addiction is something that must do but in todays era where exposure and social media is really that rampant then there's no way
that you would be able to avoid on not to see these particular things.

Its up to them on which one do weighs more when it comes to their goal and potential aim or targets whether they would come after for revenue or would really be that serious
on protecting people on being getting addicted.

The issue of cubbing gambling addiction in our society is not a find that requires muscle or some strict rules or something, the fight against gambling addiction is strategic, it requires good strategy, else, it will always be a wasted effort, because I know for sure that it doesn't matter the kind of low the government implemented, whoever wants to gamble will still gamble and can also on the process become addicted if he or she is a careless gambler.

It would be a never ending demand and you are right that this industry isnt really that getting smaller but rather going the opposite which means that players numbers are getting more bigger.This is
somewhat pertains into those people who are really that wants to play no matter what. Its true that if it would be banned or be restricted then there are lots of ways on which someone could be able to
play no matter what. They might be able to block a single path but the other paths is something that wont really be putting up some focused which means
that it would be a wasted effort in the end of the day.

Actually this is a self or personal problem on which a certain individual would be facing on on which it would really be basing or depending on how you would be treating up gambling in the first place.
Its really still that good to see that the government did really make out some actions or step on at least lessening out the exposure which would be resulting into possible further gambling activities
or dealings by the people who would be able to watch it but just like on what everybody is saying that it couldnt really be completely stopped considering that there
are other ways which you could be able to gamble if you wanted to.

Those who plan the thing did not think well, how can a reasonable someone removed sports betting from the premier league, that is hilarious. It does not make sense at all. I don't think that can even work out. Actually if they remove it from the league front banner. People will still place their bets on face to face and that will limit some group of people since it might not be online .

in my country gambling is something that is strictly prohibited but what is happening here, gambling is still happening, especially for football betting, many fans are betting from here

By simply banning placing gambling advertisements on team shirts, it will not have any impact on the gambling business, long before there were advertisements plastered on sports team shirts, many gamblers have already made bets on their favorite team

Such restrictive policies are never going to work, just look at how much money has been spent combating drug trafficking all over the world and if anything people are using drugs more than ever despite the efforts of governments and intelligence agencies to combat this problem, and while gambling does not generate that kind of compulsion on the majority of the people, I doubt many people will give up gambling simply because they are not exposed to gambling ads anymore.

Removing the sponsor's names from the shirts most likely won't change anything. I don't know anything about the rules of gambling advertising in the UK. Are the TV ads of betting companies banned in the UK? If the answer is no, then the amount of gamblers won't decrease, even if the football clubs remove the gambling logos from their shirts. I don't know why the football clubs decided to do such thing. If there's a serious problem with an increasing number of gambling addicts in the UK, the British government must step in and do something about it.

Did you not understand every word that I mentioned in the previous opinion?
Of course I said "almost all the people in the world" can't you describe almost all of them?
In fact, sports matches are enjoyed by many people from all walks of life, without exception.

People who like watching sports matches don't necessarily bet, but someone who bets definitely likes the sport at stake so they can make the right research or predictions and will definitely watch the course of the match.

You know, the motive behind taking this decision might be different than a lot of us are thinking or discussing here. Do you know that a very large number of football fans are minors (below 18)? And minors tend to be influenced very quickly, now imagine, all those minors watching their favorite teams or players and noticing the gambling advertisements on their shirts.

What will they do? They will definitely get involved or at least take a look just to see what it is that their favorite team or players are promoting, and believe me, they can even become gamblers before reaching a legal age limit.

Do you think the gambling site or the companies they help promote their services need a oong tldeals on their consignments such that they so much rely on their out come to determine their position in the market economy, they all have enough and have already make fans, fame name, advertising them is not that important because they have already been established beyond having a closed up, but the new ones needed the said procedures for then to get established first.

As far as I know gambling ads are also banned in the UK, at least blatant advertisement of it on TV. I do think there's not much that's going to change about the way people think of gambling in the UK, as evident in my previous comment on this post, but whatever.

Gambling is a problem alright, but I think UK has bigger problems to deal with right now, increase in crime rate for instance, plus a couple other detrimental things are a good reason why they shouldn't really focus on crackdowns against gambling. And if they really are that dedicated to stopping gambling, I guess they should put more foot on the necks of banks and credit companies who allows chronic gamblers from betting using loaned/credit money, much like what the Aussies did.

What about the back of their matchday shirts? And the banners displayed around the field? And the gambling ads during the match? Will everything be removed or only the front of the matchday shirts won't display gambling companies anymore?

The measure would be effective only if every gambling ads were removed from the soccer industry. But when you remove ads from shirts and keep them around in another ways, it won't contribute to stop people from gambling. The endorsement, the temptation will still be there. That is how propaganda is supposed to work and that is indeed how it works so well for sponsors.

After all, even the initiative from the players to voluntarily agree removing gambling sponsors is also a propaganda of how they want to be seen by the audience. ;)

If the brand is already famous then yeah, there is almost no change because people already remember them and will still play on their website. They can't only get those new players who only watch TV and live games but are not active online to be able to see their ads because gambling companies can still promote their brand online if they can't promote on live games anymore.

Maybe UK allowed TV advertisements before because live games are also telecast on it but they are now banning it maybe because the number of gambling addicts in their country have increased drastically. That is one of the steps that their government is taking in order to combat the issue.

If that is their intention then this policy is going to fail since gambling is very popular at the UK, so even if there are no more gambling ads on TV that will not matter as people use the internet way more than their television these days, and even if somehow gambling ads were forbidden all over the internet, and impossibility if you ask me, the only thing those interested in gambling will need to do is it ask a few of their friends about some casinos they may know, and then they will begin to gamble immediately anyway.

I wish it does work for them and in the future we could see a descending number of proven gambling addicts in their country. Anything that might work should be tried and they are the government so these promotions can be banned whenever they like it.
But, let's be real. When we go to the internet, a bunch of gambling sites are being advertised already (worse, some of them are scams) and if you are watching a video on Youtube with a piece of gambling included in the clip, it will recommend more clips that have that kind of genre. It's difficult to escape bad hobbies today.
I think what the government should do is try to educate their citizen about how they can block such things, especially kids now who are using smartphones and laptops for their schools. Because I think there are still a lot of people who don't know this simple trick.

Reducing the rate of promotion can not stop people from gambling and doing what they like to do since it involves betting and staking money to earn good amount of profits. The move to reduce promotion of gambling companies had been in contention for so long before now and I will not be surprised when I see the ban to reduce gambling activities that can have more influence on children, and some adults who might have issues with gambling addiction.
 What ever decision they make would only have limited effect on gambling platforms not the gamblers that have so many options.

I agree as I am not seeing any indicator that such move is effective against the increasing number of gamblers.Few gamblers watch TV and namely sport games beside the main ones and as such telling the audience which already gamble to stop gambling does not make a lot of sense for me.This is going on just because it is a law of the government that is enforced in most western countries which have a high rate of gamblers but it is not the right way to stop such number from increasing.In fact I don't see any other option except restricting betting domains but this is against human rights in developed countries so I think it will continue to be like that.

Restricting betting domain is still pointless, they can using free VPN to access the site. It's all about self control and how he can manage his own gambling habit, if we talk about protecting people from gambling, it's really a lot things to do.

First gambling ads is everywhere, you can't expect a website discuss about environment will not have gambling ads, no, it's happen. Second when you go to stores or marketplaces, there's might be a gambling flyer in street. Third, your friend might be a gambler.

Do you want to go back to jungle and live alone to prevent from gambling? :D

This, I mean if gambling is legal then there is no way to stop people from having some exposure to it as even if gambling ads were banned on TV you will still find those ads everywhere, and even if an attempt was made to ban those ads everywhere that would still not be enough as at some point people will still be exposed to gambling content some way or another, so if governments want to protect gambling addicts they have to choose another tactic as this is never going to work.

it's all because most gamblers already know where to gamble and without having to see advertisements on sports team shirts, they can still gamble every day regardless of advertisements or sponsorship in the premier league.
in other cases, such as removing sponsorship to reduce the increase in the number of gamblers, it will also not work, even without advertising, now gambling is hype or a trend among young people and where we are, surely someone will see or hear talk about gambling.
like in my city there are many young people who gamble on slots and indirectly people who are not gamblers will get to know gambling from other people's stories without having to see advertisements or sponsors.

Advertising for the promotion of gambling sites is the most widespread on several social media such as Facebook, Twitter, and YouTube, while for now it is not only on social media, but at every sporting event that takes place, even gambling sites sponsor several teams, there are events. sports to get their names listed and broadcast globally.
If it is in a living environment such as a market shop or a street it depends on which country they live in because some countries prohibit gambling so it is impossible if there is blatant advertising on the street, friend.
What is sure to quickly get attention in doing advertising is at sporting events and on several social media and until now there seems to be no limit regarding advertising of gambling sites.

Reducing gambling promotions is obviously not to stop existing gamblers from gambling but it is to stop the spread of gambling among younger generations that tend to have an undying affection for the game of football. If you notice, there is a very large percentage of kids and young guys who are fans of football and players.

So the initiative is basically to stop promoting gambling platforms on the match-day t-shirts so that those young guys and children don't get influenced and start gambling at an early age which is a good initiative in my opinion.

Well, Actually I would like to have some understanding when it comes to Restricting ads on TV channels in the UK or in any country, things are like that in the country I live too, and that seems to me not correct,there are Things that are worse and allow them, then a Government that says it wants to protect a people (when for me a government does not protect anything because they are Things that do not fit me and will never fit me, then those who want to make life and business with their casino-based ideas they can't, I honestly don't see any point in it.

Advertising never ends on the internet. Even if the casino is not welcome here in bitcointalk such the 1xbit, we still could see them on different crypto sites because the crypto adnetworks welcome them.

 Social media is use more in this time, so even if they forbid the influencers and bloggers promote those casinos and sportbetting platforms.

Well, it is a good solution indeed if that is their target. But I think they should also take out the gambling advertisements being shown on live television at the dome or the court. Then, there are names on the sidelines too so the kids can still get a glimpse of it.
Those who also watch in pay-per-view and local sports channels are making advertisements about the gambling platforms, heck even the commentators are the ones telling where the trusted sportsbook is.
Example: NBA commentators announce Fanduel, and then most of the time they also present how much the Over and under before the game and the spreads. Kids can still see that.
If they will take this all out, a lot of money will be gone and I don't think even the league itself will like that idea.

By three years from now, this will be effectively implemented. There's nothing that needs to be worry. Gambling companies can still advertise its service in the different area of tshirt that used by the football players.
Gambling has been also contributing a lot through sponsorship. It's caused by the regulators just wanna try to save young generation from gambling but i think that it will not give impact.

The main concern by regulators to stop legalizing gambling that was triggering the young generation to play. KYC verification can also become the best way for this.

Promotion is paramount but do people actually gamble because they saw the platform on a match day shirt? I don't think so and basically  I think people come to watch live matches after the bets has already been placed and if English premiere  leagues think it wise then its fine what these sponsors ought to do is simply move to where they are accepted and if you'll  agree with me that they're also major sponsors of these leagues.

Well for people who haven't seen this news, I think taking down those sponsors from their match day shirts will reduce the rate of gambling  as people might be scared of what might have prompted  such action.

In my opinion the whole idea of public advertising is going to shift more in the future and taking down gambling ads from football T-shirts is not going to have a big impact. Having flashy big advertising on TV is nice to promote a company, but haven't we all already heard of the company before? It's not like we see it for the first time. Usually the TV ads is just one part of their whole marketing strategy, which is likely going to change more in the next year. It's all about having ads reaching directly the people who are interested in the topic.  These big football matches have millions of people watching the games on TV, which all has to be paid for by the company to display their company logo, even though many of the viewers are not even interested in gambling. It would make much more sense to have advertising on the phones and internet which focuses on people who have gambled in the past.

Everyone uses social media to advertise a casino game and platform. Online casino social media strategies, on the other hand, work similarly to people marketing their businesses on the same platform. Promotions can reach many people unfamiliar with casino platforms, casinos need social media platforms to advertise their business, but they cannot rely on them. This may be a small component of their larger plan. Every gambling site is now experiencing its biggest boom in history for social media advertising. Interested people watch the games as they want on TV and mobile.

to be honest I don't understand how this could be a very effective measure if it's only going to come into force in the 2025 - 2026 season, it's many years until 2025 and until then a lot can change, maybe the governments will put stricter or lighter laws on crypto casinos and with that the premier league continues to allow teams to put casinos on their shirts, in terms of effectiveness for preventing losses and gambling addictions, this measure does not change anything currently, so think about how things will be in 2025 and something very difficult, for example, until a few years ago bitcoin was not as popular as it is today, but in less than 6 years bitcoin became very popular and accepted in countries that were very strict about bitcoin

with acceptance of bitcoin many people also started to use online casinos, because as altcoins provided more privacy so it would make more sense to use altcoins than to use bank account directly to deposit in the casino, but governments introduced KYC in casinos so today it is no longer there is more privacy, the teams even if they don't put the address or logo of a casino on the shirts, they can put it on the field during only games, they can put it in press conferences, they can put it on their social networks and on their website, so I don't see how this measure would change something

To be sincere, if the team in premier league decides that they can no longer advertise gambling casinos, it won't stops gambling casinos from having new customers, and this is to say that, casinos will continue to grow, and this will not reduce gambling addiction in any way.
Casinos don't only advertise in the premier leagues, I believe that when we visit social media, some crypto websites that allow google ads like etherscan, bscscan, poocoin website and so on, we see casino ads there, this are websites hundred of thousands of person visit every day, and those who the casino ads are displayed to mostly, are those who are into gambling in some way, since Google ads are mostly targeted.

Maybe an ad using a name printed on a soccer jersey and in a place where sporting events take place will be left behind and not have a big impact, but I'm sure this type of advertising marketing will continue to be done even in the future because this is the easiest way even if you have to spend money to sponsor it.
But for advertisements on TV it is unlikely that this will happen if there are indeed those who carry out gambling fishing on TV, only in countries that really free gambling activities and can freely move in the gambling industry.
What's more, many underage children like to watch TV, so if they are going to broadcast advertisements, maybe only in the middle of the night.

It will be too early to conclude if the move to remove gambling sponsors from the front of their matchday shirts. I will like to know the metric that will be used to measure the effectiveness of this move. The gambling industry is a large one and I think that, there should be a follow up thing such "gamble responsibly" or "Reach out to this number if you need help with your gambling addiction". It should be a chain of actions not just one action like the one the OP has mentioned.

They will probably review it because it is possible that what the OP has explained may not be the final decision, gambling has contributed greatly to sports fans especially for football games and even gambling has sponsored popular teams, so there are other decisions that may be announced and we hope sponsors gambling can be accepted as an arena for gambling promotion to the world.

There’s a possibility that they will overturned this kind of decision because it doesn’t make sense at all. Online gambling is popular online due to the existence of streamers and other form of social media odds. It’s impossible for those people that watching the game to not browse on social media or watch streamers since it’s already part of our society.

It’s very hard to determine if their move is effective because there’s no metrics that will show gambling activities of the league fan.

For the online casinos, yes but for the offline ones, I think many of them are doing an offline promotions. For a crypto casino, many of them are only using this forum to promote because they know that people here are very familiar in crypto than the people in social media sites. There might also be restrictions when placing a post or an ad related to gambling.

Promotions are important because this is how the gamblers discovers your site but as a casino owner, we must understand that there are some things too which are essential in order to become successful in this field like building a fun and profitable game to our customer and having a responsive customer support.

There are regulatory boards specially on media which it might really be that blocking out those type of ads which its neither  they would be blocking up gambling or not but in most cases it would really be which we know that broadcasted shows and at the same time with those advertisements could really be viewed by young or children which it is really just that right that they should really be that mindful on prohibiting it out.
As for the plans on removing out those ads via not letting those sponsorship on jerseys then it would really be that possible but it would be only effective on a place or country which does have this
gambling restrictions, but since this market is huge and not only limited on on place then it would be somewhat pointless.

Speaking about increasing numbers of gamblers then it isnt really that new or shocking anymore because this industry becomes even more bigger.Doesnt matter on which one we do talking but the
rate is increasing which does simply means that gambler counts also increasing up too. So whats the issue on this one?

I still don't see any reason why this will reduce the rate at which people gamble. There are many sites online that people can use to place there bet without any third party knowing so if the premier league team take this kind of move then it would never reduce the rate at which people bet and gamble on a daily basis. Running such a ad can be done in a simple and substle manner but it is all depend on how they want it. I really don't know the major reason for this but I am very sure that this may be in order to reduce the number of adolescent from thinking of going to bet when they see that kind of ads.

Well, one at a time, I guess. They can't simply just remove all the advertisements of gambling platforms since those platforms pay a bunch of money to get those advertisement spots in the stadium, but if they have a plan to totally vanish such promotions, they will probably do it slowly so that they can get a cover for those places instead of these.

But, I think they won't completely clear off the casino advertisements and there will always be one out there maybe not on the t-shirts or shorts but somewhere in the stadium or outside of it.

For online casinos, it is really important to make effective advertisements to promote the website. It is the fuel for them to be known and discovered by other gamblers. It is crucial especially to those newly established and are just arising websites because they have to be known in order for players to deposit and play so they could profit and continue operating in the long run. If the advertisements are not effective in gathering clients, casinos should step up their game to make it more appealing and more encouraging and this applies to both online and offline casinos. After all, who would want to try something that has a lousy advertisement that won't even leave a good taste to you.

It's never effective in reducing the number of gamblers. Once there's a game, and bookies are offering betting odds, people will still want to bet. We cannot eliminate gambling from the equation as it makes watching the game more entertaining. Moreover, gambling isn't necessarily destroying lives, as long as we understand how to gamble responsibly.

If they don't want to increase the number of gamblers, then they should ban gambling in their country.

In that aspect you are absolutely right, the publicity does not end there, consequently the casino you name is known to be one of those with the biggest scams in the world, and it is only necessary to show, all the evidence is there, but now so that the number of players can continue to grow, there is nothing better than offering something in return, to keep them there and make them defend the casino at the worst times, I think it is an investment, there are many ways, rewards with social networks, with the things that can be devised, but they have to give something, something in exchange for work.

while others wanted just to enjoy the game yet many are also wanted  to get piece of cake from the event that is why betting takes place .
but if we will pay attention , sports are turning into gambling nowadays and the essence of the game is gone instead the gamble is what mostly are looking.
I think that this type of advertising must end and yes let gamble take place somewhere and not in the time of the game.

Yes, that's just a part of promotion. The platforms have got more other ways to promote the platform. The sporting authority have made the decisions. It is to get exhibited from 2025/26 which is almost 2 years from now. Even the change of members on the authority could make changes. Nothing much changes, only the sponsor amount from the specific team gets decreased. The market is big, so that the business owners will find an alternate way to keep the gamblers active as well attract new ones.

Yes it's the same as getting pleasure from watching the game but also having the advantage of winning the bet.
Not only for now, but for a long time, sport has become one of the venues that is used for betting and this has become a kind of culture in various parts of the world.
After all, no one can stop the betting of every sports match because it is a field of income by some people.
You can't get rid of gambling advertisements at sporting events, because this gambling advertisement provides big profits for the organizers of sporting events, in fact, each team also has sponsors from several gambling sites, which are usually printed on the jerseys of the players.

Considering that advertising pays for itself, at a time when all advertising starts , it will have a community and will have many people eager for the site to be very good , obviously the community wants something in return, usually it is money, generating/work is mainly what many are looking for, and these people will give anything to Defend the site, that's why I say , if a community is built with effort, there is nothing else to Show that what is required here is that jobs are offered so that they can have Access to everything, and this is Protection to the platform, but if the casino or platform stops Giving benefits to that Community, everything will go to the Floor , I have seen that some Platforms work like this.

Online gambling platform advertising, like all types of digital marketing, is always developing. It's a little like meme culture in that it's always changing and hard to define. Sure, some teams might see a drop in their sponsoring, but most companies can weather the storm. It's like trying to defeat a boss character in a video game; they constantly manage to come back.

Building a strong community in support of a platform isn't a picnic, but once it's done, it can't be stopped. However, there is still a catch: this collective strength is dependent on the advantages it enjoys. If a service provider turns off certain features, users may abandon the platform faster than a dying Wi-Fi connection. However, it's amazing to see how platforms can attract users and grow in popularity, like seeing a tweet go viral in real time.

Eliminating gambling is not easy because many people have used it to make money but still don't understand that gambling is not a place to make money. Maybe the government can reduce bookies but it will be difficult for them to eliminate them because gambling places can move from place to place. Maybe the government can try to give understanding to people not to gamble too often or reduce the time they gamble so they can control themselves more. And as long as there are still lots of promotional advertisements about gambling, it can make the number of gamblers increase and in the future, it will also increase the number of people who are addicted to gambling.

Gambling has existed for a long time from our ancestors so it is impossible to be able to stop gambling, especially for those who are already gamblers.
The government understands that it is also impossible to stop gambling because it has been proven that in several countries there are many that prohibit gambling, but the citizens of these countries continue to gamble secretly and most of them gamble online.
Gambling is an activity that has mushroomed in all walks of life and knows no age because this is a way for someone to make a fortune quickly even though thinking of getting rich from gambling is not a good thing.

indeed reducing the number of gamblers or limiting gambling will be very difficult whereas gambling has existed since ancient times in the past and until now nothing can stop someone from continuing to gamble. for me gambling is like freedom, anyone can do it freely as long as it is responsibly and nothing can limit this.

yes, it's true that as long as gambling advertisements are still around, the number of gamblers will certainly increase, but the question is, who can stop all of this?
even though any advertisements or promotions related to gambling are stopped, advertisements from one person to another will definitely continue. for example, gambling ads no longer exist and only you know about gambling, while your friends know you get big wins from gambling, so they ask and you answer if the money is the result of gambling. surely your friends will be interested and try to gamble.

If all those premier league clubs forbids the use of gambling sponsorship then it's lose for them not to the company because the sponsorship company will always find a way to advertise their brand and in this internet era its more cheaper to reach people than paying huge chunk to the players and clubs.

This won't affect the adoption of gambling to any level but only clubs will suffer if they don't find alternative sponsors for which they forbids earlier.

Well, surely betting platforms will get around this by doing advertising in other ways, maybe they will rent a stadium and make that their name? maybe, or various other marketing techniques. So in my opinion what is being done by the premier league is not effective in reducing the number of gamblers, instead it will make gambling platforms more creative to be able to promote their services.

there are countries that legalize gambling and there are also those that legalize it but from the OP's writing ^{(which alludes to UK)} it's really funny to see countries that legalize gambling but try to get rid of gambling from there by prohibiting sports clubs from accepting sponsorship from gambling sites.  countries that legalize gambling should tighten their rules against the gambling business such as by forcing them to give more money for the treatment of citizens who become addicted to gambling ^{(or other solutions)}, so the citizens' freedom is not disturbed by the rules set by the government.

They can stop gambling because it depends on their intention to stop gambling or whether they still want to gamble. If they want to stop, they can try it, and with a strong desire to quit, they can stop gambling. The government can only provide information about the dangers of gambling and urge them not to gamble; it all depends on the people.

If people cannot limit their gambling, they will get addicted to gambling sooner or later. And when that happened, it would be difficult for them to heal without effort or desire. Maybe they need to go to a rehab center to help them overcome their gambling addiction.

As long as they can be responsible for themselves, they can gamble, but it will depend on where one lives. If he lives in a country where gambling is prohibited, he should not try gambling, even if it is in an online casino. The risk is that if he gets caught by the authorities, he could get a sentence, maybe prison.

Gambling advertisements will still exist but it depends on each person's response. He wouldn't be tempted to try the commercial if he were okay with seeing it. But the problem is that we have seen many people who are tempted to try gambling. And over time, they become addicted to gambling which is difficult to cure.

Banning sports clubs from accepting sponsorship from gambling sites does not mean eliminating gambling. Maybe they think there are so many diehard fans for the sports club that if the sports club receives sponsorship from a gambling site, the diehard fans will see it and they will be attracted to play gambling. Maybe tightening the rules on the gambling business will help reduce the number of people who want to gamble and lower the rate of people who are addicted to gambling. But the government should also have a rehabilitation center for people addicted to gambling so that gambling addicts know where to go if they have a gambling addiction.

Removing  gambling sponsors from the front of their matchday shirts will not reduce gambling because the spectators and fans are already used to gambling before and during matches so it will be like a medicine after death syndrome and a sort of eye service rendition. But come to think of it if the premier league decides to remove this gambling sponsors from the front of their matchday shirts will they also do same in their official sites and monthly bulletins, their social media handles and forums?

Let's be real here, the first scene on this is that gambling can never be eliminated, the second one is that the government cannot control, moderate or regulate gambling in general, the only chances whereby they make some stands with the online casinos is when they require them to go on by license, every other decisions either coes from the gambling platforms or the gambker himself, but know that the gambling platforms cannot implement what will not work to their own favour and against the wish of their customers the gamblers.

Gambling will never be completely eradicated from the globe, especially in sports, where huge numbers of fans are extreme frantic gamblers, bordering on addiction. They're growing on a daily basis, with the old ones informing the new ones about gambling, and from trying only one round, two to three rounds followed, and before a week was through, a total of 30 to 40 rounds were already triggered.  We understand how these things work; the only way out is to either decrease gambling to a minimum or to reduce the amount of money bet on games. Gambling with extra non-budget funds serves no purpose to increase tension.

The government can only regulate casinos by its rules, while casinos also have rules to regulate gamblers. So the government cannot get rid of gambling because if the government closes down all the casinos, there must be underground casinos that will continue to operate. After all, people will not be able to stop gambling, especially those already addicted to gambling. And it is true that casinos will look for what is profitable for them so that their business can continue running well.

It's a bitter sweet symphony, this life - many see gambling as their golden ticket, yet its track record is littered with tales of empty pockets. Trying to stifle bookies is like playing a losing game of whack-a-mole – we know that’s a recipe for disaster.

And yeah, when you claim that the puppet masters seem to have lost their strings. Online casinos sporting fancy licenses is just like putting lipstick on a pig. It's a fact we need to digest – casinos aren't here to run soup kitchens. Their prime directive is to fill their coffers, no sugarcoating it.

Our ace in the hole? Enlightenment. Let's blow the lid off the pitfalls, extend a lifeline to those tangoing with addiction. Why play firefighter when we can be architects of a future sans fire? Prevention, my friend, trumps cure any day of the week.

Do you think gambling is still under this myopic view that got affected by the branding they inscribed on their jersey during the match, or the advertisement made to popularize the whole show, some things are nothing but a funny attempts because as far as gambling is concerned today, if they removed this display on their shirts the sponsors names doesn't increase or reduce gambling, moreover it having a large number of spectators or fans is what gambling and sports in general needed, advert or no advert people will gamble as they want.

Governments won't do anything apart from regulating the casinos and asking them to register with them so that they can tax them and the players (if there are taxes on wins from gambling in a jurisdiction) because that benefits them, we know that casino businesses earn a lot of revenue every year, so governments will get a pretty good share from the taxes these casinos will pay the authorities.

They also don't care about who is losing how much money due to gambling, it's everyone's own responsibility to take care of their money because the more we lose, the more they get in terms of taxes in the long run, so they will obviously let this happen and won't intervene that much.

Yes, taxes are the desire of the government to control everything, including the gambling business and the gamblers. And that's why the government is trying to control the casinos that can give large amounts of taxes because the profits that casinos get are also large. This is additional income for the state if the government can collect taxes from casinos and gamblers. The important thing is that the government can still take something from the gambling business even though they cannot control it completely.