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So in weekends in my departmental WhatsApp group, we just randomly talk about soccer bets and sometimes drop a particular game and keep it open for correct score prediction to be made on it, and the first person with the correct score goes home with a data subscription, this has been going on for almost two years now and people have gotten used to it without knowing it.

This is one of the chat I just bumped into by one of us in the group chat and at this point I feel most of my friend have made it compulsory to always gamble every weekend.

https://www.talkimg.com/images/2023/12/20/IUEQv.jpeg

Do you see this as addiction or just catching of fun?

Mind you, we just enjoy the moment and might just joke around with people making predictions based on the teams,  they love but we are mostly gamblers at our different ends.

Continue to gamble and take a loan? For gamblers that are not new to gambling, it would be seen as a joke. But it should also not to be taken for a joke. Why would someone gamble to the extent it will get to taking a loan? That is an addiction already and nothing else.

Gambling should be without loan. Also gambling should be without 95% of the money you are earning. Even only 1% of the money that you are earning should be used to gamble is the recommendation.

If you use 1% to gamble and continue to lose, you have no loan to take and you have no difficulty to face.

I see it as someone who just came across this picture online and thought why not post it in my group chat and see the reactions of the members.

The fact that the person posted that photo did not indicate any sign of addiction unless he or she actually does gamble everyday and also can’t go a day or two without placing bet… and since you made mention of them “dropping predictions” then there’s a chance that some just depend solely on those predictions and that should also reduce the chance of addiction. I’m not trying to totally dismiss the fact that they could be addicted to gambling I’m just trying to say it’s difficult in that situation, unless they never go a day without dropping predictions.

It's addictive, not fun, how come in the group chat you said keep gambling take out loans to do it, I don't think that's good and not the right example for fun.

I just want to have fun and not gamble just because of a loan while there is no wealth in any bet won this is really hard for us to see for ourselves.

Still the most common is to gamble if you can afford to lose, even if it's extra money from the rest of your expenses, if you only rely on loans to bet I think it's fun even become excessive addiction.

An act that is really not recommended, it is true that for people who have been involved in gambling for a long time they will consider it a joke because honestly I myself admit that it is really ridiculous, taking a loan just to gamble, I'm not sure why people who have been involved for a long time think it's a joke because they already know the dangers of gambling using borrowed money, there have been many examples and one of my friends became a victim of debt, so it's a joke to me but maybe for other gamblers, especially beginners, maybe the loan will be used as an alternative when they run out of money.

What you said is always recommended and what should be considered especially for those beginners who do not know much about the adverse effects of gambling, so putting the smallest budget amount or the intention that they can be responsible for is really recommended. I think this is one of the main points that all gamblers should pay attention to, because obviously the inability to accept loss and then emotion is the starting point for various bad possibilities to occur, such as putting a large amount for a big win but finally losing and you will get emotional and then after that you will act out of control and finally the amount of loss is even greater.

I think this is gambling addiction, if this is a slogan from gambling advertisements this is just an attractant. if they take out a loan to do gambling it's the same as they are stupid, it's clear that gambling using personal money also makes a loss, and they still believe in gambling until they dare to take action to borrow money? hahah, I don't think they dare to do that. because I'm sure they already know what the end will be like but why do they still do it and even take actions that are at great risk. because in my opinion by making a loan and gambling again the chances of being able to return everything are small, they are likely to experience losses again and if they still think "ohh with one more bet, this will definitely turn things around", nonsense, I don't believe in it. It's better to realize that they have lost a lot of money in vain. and stupidly they still put their hopes on gambling, I can't think what their motivation is by putting great hopes on gambling that is not clear with the winnings they will get, and this will only make them harm themselves. gambling which means a game of chance because the game has a random system, it is likely that it is difficult to get a win, let alone a big win. don't be fooled by gambling that says "a little more can get a win" it's nonsense.

also in my opinion there are many people who have become victims by borrowing money just to gamble and they don't get a win but only get a loss that becomes a burden on their own minds, also in my opinion if they lose gambling, don't think too much about it, because if you think about it, it will actually make us gamble again with the aim of wanting to chase the victory that can cover the defeat. this is almost impossible to happen because there is no guarantee that you will get a win that can cover the defeat. This is almost impossible because no one guarantees that they will get a win that can cover the losses that have occurred. think logically, which bookie will feel sorry for gamblers who always get defeated, it seems that the bookie will not think about that, because the bookie has a role as the host, they will always win. Even if the gambler wins it is not because the bookie is sorry but because of the luck that exists, don't get hung up on slogans or tricks and others, luck will give you a big or small win, the rest of us who gamble can control ourselves or not, if we can't control ourselves then there will be a big risk that will occur financially, health, relationships. so in my opinion avoid things that trigger addiction if you really want to gamble it's better to be reasonable, don't take out a loan to gamble because that's too much!!!
taking loans and continuing to gamble? maybe that's done by people who are not in their right mind.

Will be more frustrating first than addictive. Addiction origins from satisfaction however, the idea is to keep on staking or betting until you win. Once you experience winning and realizing that loss is still bigger or even if his journey became profitable already, there will be a sensation to again bet endlessly, then that would be the time it will be a cycle. Not advisable but works to some people especially those who have large bankroll with proper management. As long as bets are controlled, this strategy could be pulled fine. But if greed will take place along with each bets, you'd be blown by loss and huge debt first before hitting that win and without assurance of a bigger amount than what you have lost.

Quite with the same idea of martingale strategy, but more of a 'free' approach. But I will never agree on taking a loan and just continue betting. You'd be in huge debt for sure and if luck will not still be there, you'd be forced to stop by financial capacity. Nothing's assured no matter how hard you wish of winning and getting back with the money you have lost. Which is why focusing how to manage your bankroll and limit your bets, will be more helpful in the long run that pushing our lucks 'til luck take place.

If this one turns out that you've been doing bets with your co-workers or colleagues then it would really just that fine specially if those things being bet on with that data subscription or whatsoever that you could be able to attach. If those group would really be having no skip on giving out their bets or selections, it doesnt mean that you're addicted with it. It is really just that it did become a habit or hobby on which it isnt really that
bad if your friends and you would really be doing actively something like this. As long you arent wrecking up yourself then it would be just fine. It is really just that for fun and its not addiction because
addiction would pertain on the time that you are already losing off track or already that messing your other important matters.

If you are still intact with yourself in terms of your important matters in life and at the same time you do able to handle those betting situations without compromising something then
it is really just that fine and you could continue with it. Each one of us does have different ways or methods on making ourselves that enjoying
about on things whether on gambling or not.

The message is very obvious, trying to fool gamblers.

We all know that gamblers losses more than they win, so how come that words exist that we continue to gamble to acquire generational wealth? If we fall into that and even decided to take a loan, we are not different from those people who fall into Ponzi scheme.

Gambling is only fun if you are treating it like a fun activity, but to acquire wealth? That's being delusional.

I see it s a way to encourage gamblers to lose but telling them otherwise that it is foolishness. Gamble again and again and lose again and again. Leading to borrowing and a miserable life. A wise gambler can easily decipher that to know it is a doom sentence for gamblers that if they continue to gamble, they will continue lose. After loan, what next? Depression and feeling of killing oneself. It is good to gamble with very tiny amount of money that we can lose and not think about.

It seems that it has become an addiction because they think that this event is mandatory to be held every weekend. But if they can still take care of themselves and not gamble outside of the event, they will not experience gambling addiction. This must be really paid attention to so that they don't have the desire to gamble outside of that.

If they can enjoy the event with other friends, they really have fun. They would get together every weekend and gamble together. Yes, it will be a fun event. Sit down with friends and enjoy the event.

It is also about controlling yourself when hanging out with friends. They will return to betting at other times if they don't have self-control. Moreover, you said that most of them are gamblers in various fields. It can make them addicted to gambling.

Can this considered enjoyable by you? This is not fun at all, it's a huge risk. If anyone enjoys being in that group, then I can only assume that they are already addicted to gambling. If not, how will I see a group like this, where people shouldn't stop gambling and should instead take out loans if they have no money to do so? Can we call that motivation? Or are they ruining each other's lives? It's never a good idea to take out a loan to gamble because if you lose and have no other way to pay back the loan, you have no choice but to sell any of your property. Most of your friend even take it compulsory to always gamble each weekend, Gambling with your own money is not a good idea either, talk of the money we borrow.

I think you have already become a gambling addiction if you have been a member of that group for more than a year now and you still find it enjoyable. My question is, could any of the members of that group have become rich from gambling since the group has been together for more than two years now? If no, then there's nothing to gain in it, just to lose money and destroy each other's life.

As long as you are all playing with money that you can afford to lose, I don't see any issues at all, there are many groups of friends and groups of workers doing this to relieve the stress of the work some groups are also doing that and besides there's no money involved but data subscriptions, it creates camaraderie among the group, I don't think it borders to addiction.

Addiction is when you play almost every day with different groups or alone with the hope of making money and spending money just to recoup your past losses. but if you are not gambling except with your group friends and you are all having fun without spending more but only on the agreed bet it's a safe form of gambling.

Taking out an extra loan just to meet your gambling needs is not worth it. Everything has a limit, and when it reaches its limit, it is best not to go beyond it, or you will be sorry. Gambling cannot be a source of generational wealth; if it were, many gamblers would have become wealthy through it today.

“Just keep staking! And if it cuts, take that loan and keep staking!! You literally cannot loose”; that is a very misleading statement for people who are new to gambling; it should not bother you too much. Those with experience can easily understand and interpret this statement.

I'm surprised I didn't see a laughing emoji on this chat because it is just funny but made in a serious manner plus hugs as if there are friends online. How do any serious gambler take this with a pinch of salt.

Old gambler that have fallen and reason would understand that such chat or phototype never represent gambling truth but it is funny that newbies will keep falling to get a loan for betting.


Despite it being for fun that such was posted on your WhatsApp group, there will be gullible people too that will fall for the things written on it. They are mainly things written in pay groups to lure in participants for payment.

I'm just seeing this as a kind of post who wants and invites other person to become addicted and being in debt. There's no fun by having debt because of gambling and this is not a good way to boost other people confidence when they are losing in gambling, Instead of giving such a nonsens advice to other person, why don't you just apply it first to yourself, just give us a proof that you will become successful if they follow your advice.

This would have to be a sarcastic post. Actually, it's a pretty good warning that uses reverse psychology.

Most gamblers are adults, so they would be able to clearly see the message in the message. On the face value it says something obviously dangerous, though it would make them think about the opposite.

Think about responsible gambling advertisements or campaigns. The thought that comes first for a gambler would surely be about gambling? The reverse psychology here is "don't gamble" but really, it makes existing gamblers think about gambling.

I would be surprised if this post is literal, it would be good to see context. It's definitely interesting either way.

I don't see it as a message for fun, it could lead people to believe that pursuing gambling relentlessly is the key to winning. However, this is not the case. Rather than continuing to gamble and potentially accumulating debt, it's important to take a break after losing a certain amount of money. These words are reflective of addiction and should not be taken seriously by those seeking control over their gambling activities. Following this message and making gambling a mandatory activity every weekend will only lead to negative outcomes.

First the message is very wrong. I know that this may be them joking around but then gambling addiction is not something that should be joked with or taken lightly.

From my estimation, I think that these guys in the WhatsApp group are not addicted. They are only doing it for the fun of it. By the way, who provides the reward money. Secondly, since it is not profit making venture we cannot say it is an actual gambling.

What he says here completely implies that he is deeply addicted to gambling and giving financial advice to others.  Or maybe he lost something and won something big, which is why he's acting like this, otherwise he's joking.  Gambling is very risky, so you should never make a loan or deposit here. There is no guarantee that you will win big while losing because you have to bet big to win big.  So you can place big bets and there is no guarantee that you will win them, so it is better to stay away from these risks and only bet as much as you can afford to lose.

Some of the gambling addicts we have today became addicts reading contents like the message in the picture story and which I think is bad. It's time we take responsibility of the kind of things we put out for public consumption as most of them have in one way or the other negatively affected humanity. Gambling is best practiced when one engages in it as a fun and not a source of income. Taking loans to gamble is absolutely unnecessary and the only people that does that are addicted gamblers. Why will someone be advised to take loans before they can gamble? How then can they pay back if they eventually lose the money to gambling.

Loans are taken by individuals and corporate organizations and are invested in to business ideas and gambling is not one of them so it's only when one is an addicted gambler than he can take loans to stake his games

Ok, anything that considers taking a loan as a form of support for their entertainment is addiction, period. Gambling is solely for entertainment (even if you entertain the idea that you can only win really), so if you start putting effort into trying to put it beyond that, it's not for entertainment anymore obviously. And if it's not, no matter how you put it or describe it, it's something that's ultimately bad for you and should be stopped immediately or improved if you can.

But hey, since it's a gc for friends it might just be a bit of a joke. But honestly? With that tone and sentence construction? I'd say you guys are far from friends really, more like a group of sport casinos/loaning group promoters.

This message is misleading because you have to take out a loan to bet, even if you say this is just a joke but never take it as an important message but rather a harsh warning that loans to bet are not very commensurate with the returns from betting.

I must say that gambling does not have to be with any loan, if you don't have money then stop for a while until your money is recovered, I don't even advise anyone to take a loan if it's not an emergency of any kind, whereas betting is just for fun then extra money should be played as the bet.

Unfortunately it is going to mislead some new comers in their midst because it is a WhatsApp group and not necessarily a P2P communication, so before a member that is astray from following their joke would voice out on his falling into what they have posted, it would have been a disaster for him. Therefore, it is better that they redirect their chat to the real advise on how to gamble and also have fun which is by a very reduced percentage in the stake and not to go borrow money when you have lost just to chase money not easy to recover.

Judging from the style of language, it's just a joke. is not an indication that he is addicted. Because the words in the picture, i can found it often in private and public chat groups. Maybe I need to remind those who read the message to think it is serious. because, the words "make a loan" are a trap that will make it difficult if you don't win anything in betting and do not prepare anything.

If there is one thing I will encourage it wouldn't be for someone to take a loan to gamble knowing too well what gambling could results at the later ends such is always resulting to gambling addiction because this is what that post is encouraging people inside excepts for those who knows their way about otherwise for a newbie or beginner who doesn't know their stands in gambling this could results to gambling addiction where it seems to be encouraging people to go borrow to gamble every week.
People should mind the kinds of group they belongs to because some of them might eventually ruined their entire life whereby causing a serious damage to them so please do not put to practice in taking loan to gamble as it's more riskier to involved oneself into that.

Recreational gambling is fine, and choosing a specific day to do it isn't necessarily an addiction; it can be the exact opposite as well, which is proper management of your time and money. Making it mandatory though, sounds way too forced, like he HAS to gamble, it shouldn't be mandatory, only if you feel like to.

However, the image is not only misleading but completely out of context. How is gambling a means to generate wealth? I get that you can possibly multiply your earnings, but you can also lose an extravagant amount of money without too much hassle; it can happen in the blink of an eye. I also don't understand what's implied with staking, what does staking have to do here, and, worst of all, is it actually suggesting taking a loan for that purpose? Am I missing something?

Looks to me like a message that you shouldn't allow in your group. Have fun and joke around yes, but someone might take this literal and the world we live in is full of literal snowflakes.

Most likely it is a joke post, but better to remove it and not feel bad later if someone took it literal and ruined their life with a gambling addiction.

Whoever posted that or messaged that must be playing the sarcastic game. :D
Well, I don't know him so I won't know. You are a group, you should've ask him.
Do remember those are the things that will bury you financially and worst, suicide because of the active loans in different banks. Gambling is supposed to be treated as entertainment but we also pursue to win as much as possible. Losing money feels like shit and we don't want that happening to us.
A goal to win but at the same time enjoy the added excitement that it will bring especially in the sports industry. It's not wrong to put a little bit of a bet, we don't have to be shy about it because no one will know.
"One game away." Yeah, until we made 1000 bets already and we are still one game away from a win. It's a never-ending "one-more bet", "the very last" and "the last of the last" until we find ourselves sinking with so many loans.

If what is being discussed in the WhatsApp group is about things like the ones I quoted below.


It's really not a fun or addictive strategy, in my opinion it is more of a trap element, to keep playing with the lure of not losing and taking out loans, I'm sure that if I really obey the messages in the group, I'm very sure that losses await.

As far as I know, no matter what type of game there is no guarantee that someone will be 100%, especially if they have already lost at the start of the game, So be careful gambling with any persuasion, gamble with your own beliefs without third party advice, no one will be merciful if you lose in the game.

Firstly the taught of getting generational wealth gambling is a wrong taught which should be treated as a potential trait for addiction. It will be very foolish to hope on gambling to help you get wealth that will last through generations, the casino and bookies are looking to make wealth too so what makes you feel you stand a better chance.

That urge and drive to continually keep playing again with the mind set they you will win one day will definitely lead to ruined, you may end up never winning because you are just blindly playing and been so dependent on hope alone which can definitely not give you the generational wealth you intend to get gambling but will rather get you into addiction gambling shouldn't be done basically to get a fortune but if you are been favoured by the odds then celebrate your good days and do not think that gambling will get you rich, it's very unlikely.

Lmao i don't recommend to take loan and just to gamble, this can ruined your life entirely even you had a group chat and giving signals to one another is not recommended if you say you won that day and the other day it will become addictive in the end you'll just losing money , when you take a loan its like your 1 foot is in soil already, so for me this kind of message from your group chat is misleading or worse but depends on you if you had that much money to gamble why not.

Hard to understand words, as it can be something real but it can be sarcastic message as well at the same time.
I myself consider that message as sarcasm, because sometime people are not listening when they get a serious advice and some time sarcasm can be something that make people think about something rationally.
I would say the message is not both fun or addiction, because I do not know who is the one who write the message.
Maybe we may know better if we know the one behind the message personally.

Joking in gambling discussions is not a wise thing, I really don't like the message sent by OP's colleague as in the screenshot, it's ok when everyone in the group isn't a regular gambler, but what if someone is already addicted? the person will definitely take the message as a suggestion and will most likely become a problem gambler.

On a personal level I see it to be a joke because where am from sometimes we don't get advise directly, it comes the opposite way, e.g Churchill use a the money I kept in the bank and gamble... Don't stop gambling untill the money finishes. To a normal person it's reads the normal understanding but for us over here it's either a warning that do not touch the money in the bank for any reason or for gambling sake.

And exactly that is how I feel the message was presented in the group as a warning from the opposite view that you shouldn't get addicted to gambling.

But instead of getting further reaction that might lead to regret it shouldn't be published to a group where gamblers  converse.

For beginners, the quote seems like something that is sarcastic, and it could as well make them look like desperate people if they apply it entirely without caution, of course it is believed that every gambler is one step away in making generational wealth, but taking a loan for gambling, it's something i wouldn't recommend, it is good to only gamble with what you can afford to lose not going to take loan because loan is subject to repayment, so what if you don't win because as a gambler is not every game that you will win, how do you repay your loan if you haven't won any game.

Can't call that addiction unless you see that guy suffering from mental and financial loss. At that stage maybe he is playing around or trolling then want to have fun with people reading his message so don't take it more badly since as long as you know the consequences of your action and you will not listen to anyone especially on this kind of messages then you are fine. Then maybe try to be humorous to and reply to him some nasty words about what he just said for sure both of you will get a lot of fun especially if he can catch up with your joke.

Also for sure your friends doesn't take that message seriously since provably same as you they are also a experience bettor since as you said they gamble every weekend so for sure they know the consequences of what they possibly to happen if they commit huge mistakes on their hobby.

Some people might take it as fun, but some people might be addicted to gambling through it. Some people who are addicted to gambling don't even know about their addiction, they will think they are just gambling for fun, but they are addicted to gambling. Some people in the group might not be addicted, and some of them will be addicted to gambling. There is a statement that I see in the picture that you posted which is, take a loan and keep on staking. It does not really make sense to me.

Why will you take a loan and keep on staking? It's really wrong, even if it's a joke, things like that shouldn't be joked with, someone might end up seeing it and they might think you are serious, taking a loan to gamble is completely wrong, gambling shouldn't be a do-or-die affair, if you are losing and you already exceeded the amount you will be gambling with, then the best thing to do is just stop gambling, you shouldn't even think about taking a loan to gamble, it's kind of crazy to me.

For me, it's having fun as the stake involved is something that everyone can afford to lose, it may be safe from the looks of it but we don't know what its impact is on every participant, they may be having fun but after the group parted ways some of them will play on other platforms to fulfill their hunger for gambling because they already tasted the excitement and the rewards of betting, but the bottom line always is as long as they are not adding more than what they agreed, in this case, a subscription there's no problem and the group is just having fun.

If you look at the text on the sign then this is more addictive than fun, just look at the message they say by taking out a loan then you say obliging bets every week then this is certainly addictive because for fun you are free at any time to bet without having to target a certain time.

I don't know if this is a regular joke like you said or just a moral message to keep betting? Basically taking a loan to trade is not recommended let alone a loan to gamble is certainly not recommended, this is my own perspective because other people's judgment is always different even though taking a loan is a good move.

So gambling as much as possible should be with small money, then this will not be a burden for you.

In fact, I don't see this as addiction. I see this as a malicious advertisement aiming to encourage gamblers, and especially the most naive and inexperienced ones, to bet on the wrong manner which will disgrace their lives completely, in the worst possible way, through taking loans and creating debt on long run with banks or loan sharks. Someone doing this may find himself with a huge and unpayable debt with banks, what will make them unable to close another businesses, like the purchase and financing of houses, cars, opening of companies and unable to become a guarantor of someone else in a university's monthly tuition, for an example. This person will be resumed to nothing or to a noxious, leprous individual towards financial institutions.

And if the loan is going to be taken from a loan shark the situation is even worse, because many of those guys don't accept remaining in loss. They go after debtors, doesn't matter where the they are, blackmail them, their family and everyone who is close to them. In case they still don't repay the loan, the consequences can get more serious, potentially reaching to murder for debt reasons.

If it was meant to be funny, the creator of the content failed miserably...

that is someone who has a gambling problem or maybe a full-blown addiction, they usually use the phrase "You are one bet away from winning big" to justify their bad betting habits.

I've seen that phrase a lot of TikTok being posted on videos where people are documenting their recovery from gambling addiction, it is disgusting to see people try and pull someone down from their journey to recovery from gambling addiction.

For those of us who think of it as fun and gambling is entertainment then there will be no influence whatsoever in any losses that occur but aren't most gamblers just about having fun and most of them are out to make money.
From this it can be concluded that each person with different goals will also get different results and influences, for those whose goal is to make money, it is clear that losing is something that cannot be accepted.
I completely agree with you in all of these statements but I will still confirm that the impact and influence of each final result will affect some people depending on their goals in entering gambling.
It is true that subscribing will not have any effect and everything is just entertainment and for fun, but again, this kind of attitude and thinking will never be shared by everyone.

I highly agree with your recommendation and I would also recommend the same to the gamblers because spending a lot of money on gambling or getting loans to start gambling is the worst thing that anyone can do. Gambling is already a risky thing especially for those who aren't good at it and a new gambler or an addicted gambler when takes loans to gamble more then the new gambler will get addicted to gambling and the addicted gambler's addiction will get more intense.

A gambler should learn about gambling responsibility and he/she should gamble with limits. One should risk at least 1% to 4% of one's earnings into gambling but no more than that and if a gambler wins some money during a gambling session then they should not increase the bets according to the winnings. The bets should still be small until one gets good at gambling.

Let's suppose a gambler has deposited $10 into his/her account then he/she should place small bets in start to get familiar with the platform that he/she is using for gambling. And once the gambler gets some familiarity with the platform then the gambler should slowly increase the bets and follow a good strategy. That way a gambler will never get addicted to gambling and will continue to enjoy the fun part of gambling and at the same time he/she might earn some money if his/her luck is good and the bets go well.

If we assume that gambling and betting are routine activities that must be done every week, and prioritize gambling activities over other things that are more important than just gambling, then this already shows that we are experiencing an addiction to gambling.

And at first glance what OP said in the post seemed like a joke. But if someone prioritizes gambling over other important things, then it could be that someone is experiencing a gambling addiction. Because how important is gambling that you have to take out a loan to be able to continue gambling. And isn't it...... we can still find other things that are more fun than gambling?

If in conditions we don't have enough money to be able to gamble, then it would be better if we skip these activities. Because of stupid things that often happen to everyone, they destroy all the money they have playing gambling. In other words, he determines his fate in gambling. When gambling we talk about possibilities, so we can ensure that every time we gamble, we will win. Because no matter how good we are at gambling, it cannot guarantee that we will continue to win.

i saw that the post was sarcasm expressed by one of the group just for fun, but it was also to remind you in the group that he was no longer comfortable gambling anymore. because even though the gambling you are doing is just for fun, it has entered the addiction stage because without you realizing it, you have been doing this for 2 years in a row and that is quite a long time. and you have spent a lot of money just for that alone.

it's a good idea to ask your friends whether they want to continue betting again or not, because maybe there is someone who is no longer comfortable gambling with you but he is reluctant to say so.

Your co-workers only engage in gambling on the weekends and whether they are addicted or not is likely only you and them who know about it.

If at this point you further emphasize that you are a gambler in various fields then I am sure you are an addicted gambler, but the difference is that you can handle it well. But the unpleasant part is when you are involved in gambling using loans and this is not good behavior for a gambler. If the gambling placement is much more addictive by relying on loans, it will give rise to many problems later.

Who ever made that post in the screenshot posted by op is just being sarcastic, it's nothing to be taken serious, only a very stupid person will take such post or advice serious and go on gambling when clearly he or she doesn't, or take a break.

I personally have come across such post or advice as shared by the op, sometimes, while chatting with a friend concerning gambling and we are discussing our various gambling loses we experienced recently, one of us usually post such comment and we wil just laugh over it, every sensible gambler knows that it is completely immoral to gamble with a borrowed fund, or to go seeking for loan solely for gambling purposes.

Predictions in the departmental WA group sounds fun and adding a prize on top of that is what makes it competitive. That is the driving force behind the risk taking attitude and hence gambling. The way to make a game popular is to make it look like you are competing with other people and hence put up a scoreboard system or a community ranking system. That way every player feels that they need to beat the person ahead of them and they will continue to play and remain addicted to the game. It is how the mind works.

It should be fun as long it is kept under control that subscription price is kept reasonable enough with everyone donating the pot.

I don't really think this is an addiction thing.  It seems more like a sketchy ad trying to get gamblers to bet the wrong way.  That could ruin their lives by getting them into debt if they take out loans to keep gambling.   

These ads prey on gamblers who are prone to addiction or bad choices already.  Getting them buried in debt only makes everything worse.  There's a chance it could be sarcasm or a joke, but if an individual puts gambling above other significant things, then maybe that person has a gambling addiction. Since when is gambling so vital that you need to take out a loan just to keep gambling?

The quote you provided is surely just a gambling joke for entertainment. We usually have this kind of joke in our social media before when online sabong becomes popular here. There’s nothing wrong with it if you knew that this is just a gambling joke stating the obvious don’t on gambling.

Taking it seriously while all of you is gambler defeats its purpose because the author knew that everyone will understand the message behind the joke which is the irony of its meaning and not the literal statement.

Don't think it's addiction to gamble every weekend, after a stressful week. Gamblers are expected to have fun with fellow gamblers and share techniques and ideas that can save them from getting addicted. One risk I perceived from the idea of sharing predictions is, that a few members of the WhatsApp group would depend on those predictions or the prediction of the last winner and stake money on it, trusting it, and hoping they'll win. Hence the player can wager a huge amount that he's not sure of winning. Other than that I'd say it's fun. But the picture Op shared in his thread discloses another risk factor that affects the members of such a group. And more of such memes would be shared often in the group. Members of the group may be responsible gamblers, but the message the memes are passing to the group members is quite dangerous to the brains of the new gamblers in the group. As they may not be able to detect the condition of all the participants of the WhatsApp channel.

I'd suggest that such a group should center on positive discussions able to change the perspective of every gambler in the group not to borrow to gamble and also gamble with their spare cash. Peer pressure in gambling can be disadvantageous if the friends we keep don't follow responsible gambling measures. Taking loans just to win and please our friends will make us less productive in the workplace or school. Young gamblers who start taking loans, how long would they sustain such ill behavior, before they stop? When they can't meet up with paying back the borrowed money, it'll be a bad experience for the gambler. Addiction can also follow transient fun, as the happiness of the gambler will only be short, and when he gets to his normal senses, he'd hate his actions and blame his friends for not being positive in their gambling advice. We may be strong in keeping our disciplines in gambling, but we have to respect the vulnerabilities of others in our clique who may not possess the same self-control qualities as us, and, we must keep responsible gambling as the primary discussion when with follow gamblers.

You are obviously a loser when you fund gambling with debt. You should never gamble with money that you loaned, it is a recipe for disaster. We saw this when people started buying Crypto currencies with credit cards and then those tokens failed and they were stuck with the debt.

I would not make jokes about things like this, because people might interpret this as something very different and they will take loans to gamble. You should say something on this group to stop these kind of posts.  ;)  

they make it sound like everyone will win when their due time comes.
and they are encouraging people to take a loan and then gamble. just something that a gambler who has lost his inhibition would do.


might just be for fun but somebody is making money out of them. it sounded more like fun but for the users who were losing money because of their games, it's not gonna be fun when they realize they are not going to win.

As you have mentioned the image is from a WhatsApp group, not your friends, so it could be one of an encouragement for people to keep gambling and most likely to be an advertisement. It is easier to tell that to anyone cause he is not the one who's going to suffer from that, just imagine telling anyone to take a loan and keep gambling, isn't that a dumb thing to do? We can't tell if he is actually addicted to gambling as there is no information about him is he playing every day? But from that screenshot, we can say that it is dumb so I could say that it might be an advertisement.

From the image presented from OP about gambling advise, such should not be taken by a responsible gambler, the more you keep using your money chasing after loss the more you keep accumulating for it, a professional gambler or advisor would not advise this for a gambler, only the gambling platforms can make this kind of posts and it's not to encourage or advice them, but to make them keep to patronage of their gambling platform so that they can always have subscribing customers as gamblers.

Add is one of the attractive ways to psychologically chances our mind about gambling. There are add that can make us to change our mind and start thinking of looking for reliable gambling platforms to use and bet. Also attractive adds with bonus and free spins for new users can lure us to start getting ready for a new career or activity in gambling.

 We need to train our mindset so that little things that make us change our opinion or easily attract about something. We need to be disciplined and focus on what we tend to achieve whether as gamblers or not. Many people had made wrong decisions about there gambling activities and ended up with the wrong choices.

This is fun and has nothing at all to do with addiction. The op rightly stated that they often do this during weekends which means everything going on their is all fun and nothing else and the recommendation posted on the group is a common gambling joke aimed at luring gullible gamblers. It is very common to see funny posts that seem like a recommendation in social groups, especially when the group is not the so serious one. Everyone knows that's a foolish advice from an unserious member of the group. As misleading as it is, there are still some over zealous members of the group who are not too familiar with gambling jokes that will fall into this trap. This set of people will take the who joke too seriously and keep playing relentlessly until they go broke.

gambling and loans are two things that should never meet, a bit like "a pizza and pineapple" we would say here in Italy... ;)

You play for fun, you don't play to get into debt. you go into debt for the future, not to have fun...

ok I know people who go into debt to take the holiday of a lifetime... but going into debt to gamble is unfortunately really something that should never be done.

What if that guy is just trolling you all? IMO, I can sense that there's the obvious on it and I don't think that it is a motivation and it's just possible that he's having fun with you all.

But let's say that it's a serious one, you can't also determine that the guy posted that is already addicted just because of that quote. He might just stomped into it and just want to share it with you so, you can think of your actions.

I don't know but for me, we need more information about the guy and his habits to say that he's already addicted not just by a single quote he shared.

Troll or not, its not really that something new with these kind of post on which we do have those kind of post on where it turns out to be that something imaginary or something that it is really that
not something that usually happens on day to day living. If we do tend to look at on whats the post of op on which he's really that worrying about getting addicted but basing on the image that he had posted that signifies that you should be playing more or simply a line on where an addicted person would really be having then it would really be just that that contradictory on having
this kind of saying on which it totally opposes on the idea or things that you've been trying out to ask on which we can actually say that he's really indeed trolling.

As funny as it sounds, will others see it as catching fun? So many people have gone out of their way to gamble, all because they were advised like this "to take a loan to gamble''. They did that and the result they got wasn't funny, which made them take away their precious life by themselves because of the thought of how they would pay back the unpaid loans used in gambling.

There is a recent story spreading across my country about a young man who borrowed a huge sum of money from his friends in addition to his own. The story is that he gambled with everything he had saved and borrowed. He lost everything to gambling. what did then he do because of that? He took Sniper, a poison, to end his life in order to escape the humiliation and embarrassment of the people he had borrowed money from.

Story link: https://www.premiumtimesng.com/news/more-news/651260-man-commits-suicide-after-reportedly-losing-n2-5-million-online-bet.html

That message that was shared in your betting group is supposed to be taken seriously and as possible symptom of early gambling addiction slowly taken over the minds of whoever sent that. Even if they sent that message ironically, the idea of asking for a loan to continue gambling/betting and the conceived idea one is always each time closer to get a life changing amount of money out the casino is wrong.
There is a very real possibility that group of yours started as a fun experiment, just another way for people like you and those in your neighborhood to have a good time during the sport season, but it seems it has devolved into something different and something more dangerous to anyone who participates in that group.
If I were you, I would ask the administrator not to allow that kind of messages to be spread around, messages which only incites members to continue to gamble without thinking about conaequences. I would also mention a very strict set of rules are supposed to be listed and enforced in that group.
Does this group have any rules at all, is it moderated at all? Or it is just like a communal chat where people hang round and bet without someone calling the shots?

Whoever is moderating this, (assuming there is moderation) should encorauge others to only stake what they can afford to lose and in case someone within the group is suspected to be developing addiction to bets, may that person be excluded from the group during a set period of time. I would even go as far as informing their family if their behavior get erratic in the neighborhood. It is before to have a close talk with family before someone turns into a addicted riddle person, willing to steal for the sake of continue to gamble.

Just my opinion. It started as fun, now it is more than that. Be careful.

gambling is an activity that is carried out without coercion and if it is mandatory you have to gamble every weekend, such as being forced to gamble even though you dont have money you have to look for a loan to gamble and this effort triggers an addiction to one group. it is very clear that it is not a pleasure but an unpleasant imposition and I am afraid that if it is done in the long term it will definitely make some people in the group become addicted.

but actually, if you only do it every week without having to force yourself to bet and do it responsibly, it won't be a big problem as long as you dont use a loan, but still, if your mind and mentality are not strong, everyone in the group will definitely become addicted just because they are tempted by other friends and I suggest dont do this too much rather than have a bad future.

In fairness, you have the guts to say those things. Maybe most people who read your post that this is negative may come to the minds of other communities here on this platform. But anyway, for me, there is no need to say that on platforms like this.

If someone wants to gamble, it's up to them whether it's for fun or because they have an addiction to gambling. But I don't agree with taking a loan just to use it for gambling; I really don't agree with that.

The entire message is bad.

We always have to cautious of the groups we find ourselves in because they are not all positive and groups someone concerned for themselves should be in. It slowly starts out as fun, but later will metamorphose into an addiction, and this group that you are in are in is an example of it.

From every weekend, it can become an everyday thing.

The whole danger of gambling lies in the fact that the line between fun and real addiction is so thin that it is impossible to see.
Many addicted but recovered gamblers begin their stories like this: “I was just bored and I decided to have fun and made the first bet,” or “a friend advised me to bet my 5 bucks on the team, and the match became more fun to watch.”
And it’s unknown at what point everything gets out of control and now they say “I didn’t sleep to bet at night, I gave money away from my relatives.”

Taking of loan to gamble is something that an addicted person will deem fine and I doubt that he would ever see it as wrong but  we all know that's it crazy to gamble with money someone actually borrowed you because gamble isn't something that guarantee's 100% income and the process can make you go more in dept. Money that is borrowed should be only used for cases of emergency and nothing else, as in when there is absolutely desperate need for it.

Departmental groups are known for places of information and having different students in their will bring different discussion, some people are very funny in group chat and this might be one of them just doing there play stuff and catching cruise as usual, the person that sent that to the group might not even mean it. However, don't play with such things in the group, we view things differently as there are some people that will see that as a joke and some people in the group will see it as serious information and follow it and will bet as advised on that image.

In addition, next time you guys should add some rules just to avoid this kind of things repeating again. We have had instances of students using their school fees for the session and up keep money on betting and this turn out badly and it didn't end well. Guess what, it's their fellow students that later help them put funds together and help pay school fees, never joke with gambling because some people are very daft in making decisions, the won't think a second time to stake anything to win something most especially the one that doesn't have gambling induction.

Everyone knows what to do with those words,they are mostly encouragement phrases to keep you going.I see those words almost everyday in the chat at the casino where I play.I know that some people can take them in another meaning,in their literal meaning and go and try to get that one bet away from wealth and richness and as such they risk to go deeper and deeper until they hit addiction.This can be interpreted in different ways and it depends like I said on the person mentality and some people are impacted by those messages while the majority of the persons would just see them as encouragement only and continue to do what they have to do.

Not because he thinks it's okay, but he really doesn't realize the bad things he's doing. This can happen because there are three underlying factors, namely Habit, Addiction and Hypocrisy. Firstly, when someone is used to carrying out gambling activities regularly every week, no matter how busy he is, he will always make time to gamble on the weekends. Second, when someone is addicted to gambling, then when he doesn't have enough money to do that, he will try to get money regardless of how he gets it, whether it's through good or bad means, whether by asking or borrowing. He will always try to be able to continue his gambling activities. And the third is hypocrisy, when someone is truly addicted to gambling, then what he is looking for is not the truth about what he is doing, but a justification for himself. Where apart from him always telling lies to other people, he also often lies to himself.

What a terrible suggestion. I always say that it's terrible when someone wants to take a loan and use it for gambling. People never learn about the mistakes of their own and even with the others. It's not that bad to gamble and keep on staking but what's bad is if you come to that point that you're asking for a loan so that you can continue gambling. That's how it goes and will make you bad at all.

The person who does loans and gambles is the one who's already addicted. Coming with the person who's giving this motivation is probably also addicted. He just wants to let others take the same vibe as him that they should take loans and gamble with them. Come on, that type of sharing isn't the best thing to share with others because you'll never know if that's going to do any good to you. We've seen a lot of stories that they're confirmed addicted when they've done such things and they cannot control themselves. So, if it's not just all words and talk and there's an application of it, then no doubt that person whoever takes that advise is addicted.

The addiction was the negative side of the gambling,the gambler should agree this.Because many people had loss their money,life savings in the gambling.If they didn’t have a good luck in the gambling site,the money using will be loss.Then what that person will do for their weekly expenses,it will be the biggest question mark.So the gamblers shouldn’t get addicted to gambling site,even he might loss 1000 dollars.The solution to gambling addiction will be accepting the loss and pain.Just move to your real life from the gambling site.


The true fact is if the gambler get into gambling,he should to bear the loss.If they don’t want any the loss from the gambling site,he should not get into gambling with the motive of earning some money from the same gambling site.Risk was key in the gambling site.

This best describes on what I call the "gambler's cycle" where a gambler cannot escape the endless cycle of winning/losing.

In this cycle, a person's initial reaction whenever they win or lose is to gamble again; a person gambles again if they won to see if they can continue the streak; and a person gambles again if he/she losses in order to recover such lost by gambling again. Unfortunately, this cycle continues until the person exhausts his/her resources to the point that they believe that they would win the more they bet.

Personally, I find this as an addiction especially that the person copes by thinking that the next bet that he makes would result in a win.

In my opinion gambling addiction as well as other addictions has several stages and many gamblers who have the first stage, which is manifested by an attraction to gambling, do not even realize it. Therefore, it is difficult to say whether these people have gambling addiction. The only way to find out is to limit yourself for a while from gambling and watch yourself. If your desire to gamble overpowers you, then you clearly already have a first degree gambling addiction. At least I think so.

A person who is addicted towards gamble will obviously won't be in the right mind to judge what is right for him and what is wrong for him. That's why taking a loan to gamble and seeing it as normal is totally fine for him. Bit it isn't. You are right. If one is already is in deep debt, he should try to work hard in order to pay of his debt, not gamble again to make the debt even bigger.

When gambling gets to this point, it's no longer fun, but the people in question are addicted to the game, which might not end well for them, especially when they get involved in talking about gambling.
 
It all started with giving me a few scents. Later, when I withdraw, I will give them back to you to the extent where they won't even have anything to pay back, but their hope of paying back the loan they took to gamble is only from the gambling winnings.
 
If they are just given themselves a compulsory bet every weekend, I don't see anything wrong with that, provided that they are still within their bankroll limit and don't break any of their personal rules. Then everything is okay, as most of us have time, which we like to gamble, and season, which we feel like it's best for us, so maybe weekend games might be the ones that always turn out in their favour.

It's giving people the push to keep on gambling and if you have to take a loan, you do it and no one's gonna agree.

Well, if someone is going to justify that they should gamble and take a loan because that's what these posts are. They're out of their minds and can't decide for themselves.

These people need some help not just with their families but with professional help that they need not to be gullible with such posts that are obvious wanting them go the wrong route.

That statement is fucked bro, and I will not advise someone to do what is being quoted on that picture because that's an addition and not fun.
If you think it's fun, by the time you might have taken a loan to gamble and that same game which you think is sure still cut, that's when you will start to fear gamble. Recently, I heard a story of a gambler that sold his family house for gambling sake and things have turned around for him, and now he's left with nothing.
There are many stories that can testify of an addicted gambler that have done strange things just because he or she wants to gamble, but believe me this that this statement is just to make people on the WhatsApp group to gamble so that the group will be more active.

I don't see your usual weekly bet as gambling because you guys are not staking any money. Gambling is when something is at stake which could be money or other non-monetary benefits. The message that your fellow student posted in the group can give a wrong message about gambling. Going to the extent of seeking a loan because you want to gamble is going to the extreme. We should encourage people to gamble with what they can afford and not seek other means to finance their gambling activities. Going to the extent of taking loans to gamble shows a high level of gambling addiction and nothing is entertaining in it. Such information on a school platform can encourage people to use their school fees to gamble.

Don't be deceived, there is a time to take a break from gambling especially when you observe that you are getting addicted. And we shouldn't be deceived that we don't lose in gambling because you might not be lucky at all times.

The fact that I can't control myself means that gambling is no longer fun or entertainment. If I don't gamble once every day, it is very difficult to control myself, then I have a kind of attraction towards gambling and I want to get out of this gambling, but an invisible attraction does not allow me to get out of gambling. At first I used to consider gambling as a part of entertainment but day by day my interest and curiosity towards gambling increased to such an extent that now I am seriously addicted to gambling. So for now I am trying to control my gambling addiction and have been in regular counseling with a psychiatrist for some time now.

I think you missed the point the message is conveying. From my understanding,  the message means that every loss is like a loan to the gambling company, a loan they will have to pay back with interest. It is just a way of encouraging themselves not to despair when they lose and I don't see anything wrong with that. If you also pay attention, you will realise they are having fun at the end of the day despite it becoming their regular practice for years. Assuming the OP made mention of any negative effect it is having on any of them, then that would have been a problem.

Just take that statement with a grain of salt. Not a big deal for me.

With the use of common sense, we should know what are the valid pointers in gambling. I doubt someone will follow that statement regardless of their reason or even be lured by that kind of encouragement. Come one, use our brain. We should know the best approach in gambling.

On the other hand, though, consider that statement as a warning in the form of a sarcastic message.

I will say this is not funny because it can be misleading to new gamblers that thinks that gambling is for making profit. I guess that there are addicted gamblers in that group and it is what they practice that they tell people in the group. This is why it is only you that can discipline yourself to become a responsible gambler because some friends that we keep will even make us get addicted due to their own excess gambling activities with wrong advice. Getting a loan to gamble is the worst thing any gambling will do because, it means that you are chasing your losses and will not be able to pay back the loan because you will lose the more. Never gamble when you don't have funds and only gamble with the amount of money that you can afford to lose.

People have become addicted because gambling on weekends has become something they have to do. And if they don't follow it, there will be a sense of loss and they will want to follow it the following week. Maybe they find pleasure in betting on those weekends with their friends but if they don't have breaks to gamble each week, it will become an addiction.

The writing only tempts gamblers to continue gambling because psychologically, they will feel that the words are right and they have to follow them. But if someone has good self-control, they will not follow suit and will still rest after gambling. And again, the article says to take a loan to continue gambling and that is a mistake so gamblers don't need to follow it.

Admins of groups should be able to censor the discussions that go on in any group they manage so as to keep the discussions healthy and on point. There can be other ways to do a giveaway of free data subscription without indirectly introducing people to sports betting, something which the froup is not meant for. Yes, some may argue that the essence of this will be to spice up the group and get more people to be engaged to the group, but I see it as a bad way to achieving goals. Due to this indirect introduction to gambling, your group is breeding the next set of people that can become addicted to sports betting.

It starts with a compulsion from circumstances and then becomes something that is forced to do until in the end they get used to it and feel that something is missing if they don't do gambling activities. The environment is really one of the factors that has a big influence on  human change, especially in terms of habits and behavior, maybe you are a little confused about whether you should follow the habits that exist in your environment or avoid it with the consequences of ridicule or ridicule from some of your friends who are also certainly one who also has a role in these activities.

I think as long as you and  some of your friends can maintain the comfort and safety of the gambling activities that you do then I think there is nothing wrong if you continue to engage in these  activities along with some of your friends on weekends, but on the other hand if you feel that slowly your money is getting eroded and experiencing some decline then obviously at least you have to reduce these activities a little, especially in terms of money allocation and also of course by taking a little time to rest because after all the possible risks cannot be completely avoided, especially addiction.

It's obvious that this could be a promotion for a gambling site? I agree that you can be rich in games like lotto, but if you don't know how to protect it, you can't build a generational wealth out of gambling, at least that is my opinion.

So just have some fun when we gamble, and if we won, like $100-$10,000 then good, but that alone again, will not get into into building a empire and have money through your lifetime. Gambling is base on pure luck, so not everyone can have that kind of good fortune.

I don't know why someone would see an inscription like that on a casino and would still decide to abide by it.... I don't even think it'll be advisable to read it twice assuming it was made as a review post either; gambling is pretty easy to avoid but some gullible ones that claim to be wiser would always wanna find a way to improvise, thinking it'll be for Thier betterment at the end.
Can I assume this to be a motivation?..  if anyone can easily be enticed by this write up, the person would believe any lie at all... Who in their right senses would wager and see Thier wins, just to wager again with every bit of cash they won?

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This is clearly motivating addiction most especially to those begginer gamblers who are not totally exposed to the gambling world. They would certainly think that it's okay to lose and gamble again, and when your capital is already used up, it's okay to take a debt because the more you gamble, the higher chances of attaining wealth.

This is obviously crossing the concept of gambling. Just gamble to make fun and just bet on the amount you can afford to lose. Once used up, stop gambling and go home immediately. With that, you will never encounter problems in gambling.

You need to ask yourself the following: how long can you go without playing? I also ask your friends how long they can go without playing, think with them, tell them to all spend 2 months without playing and without thinking about gambling and then each day observe how many of your friends will be uncomfortable because they won't be there. playing, most of the time when a person starts to spend a lot of time in their life thinking about gambling, that person loses focus on all other things in the real world, so that person is dependent on games, in other words, that person is addicted to games bad luck, but that's not all, also when a person starts to have a pattern in which every week that person has to play even if it's on a fixed day

so this person may also be facing problems with gambling and this person needs to take a test to prove that they do not have gambling problems and the simplest test that this person can do is to spend some time without gambling, but it has to be a period of time predetermined by that person and that person must comply with that period of time. Now, I honestly don't know your friends to be able to judge whether they really only play once a week, it's unlikely that a person addicted to gambling would say that he plays every day and that he even usually plays at work

It's funny actually, to tease people to keep gambling to get that generational wealth.
But the moment people realize that they already take a loan just to gamble is not funny anymore lmao. This will be a few steps to get an addiction award.

Addiction would really be something pertains into those activities which it is already too much than on usual but since this had become their daily hobby or thing then i dont see something wrong with this.
They are betting on things which arent really talking basically on money but on other bets that they are making. It is quite that evident that it is also really just that for fun.
It is really that good to gamble out together with your friends or co-workers into your free times. As long you arent that compromising your daily budget or money
then i dont see anything wrong with this. It is really just that we are just that too judgmental into those people who do engage to gambling.

Whoever is giving such an advice is total addict and deserve to be helped to quench the gambling addiction. Going to the extend of taking loans to gamble is too extreme. It cannot be considered fun because whstever you do for fun you dont borrow money to do it whenever your on the process. Its obvious we dont have fun everytime so when we cannot have fun we just need to stay home and do other things. Going an extra mile to take loan just to have fun is crazy.

That's a good example of addiction. When someone is saying you literally can't lose, and even has a typo in lose, you can assume that you are not communicating with the smartest of them all. And definitely with someone who is in denial. Also suggesting a loan for gambling more isn't just irresponsible. It's unempathic and sadistic approach. My words may sound harsh, but that kind of advice is dangerous and only good for ruining lives. If someone i knew would give me that advice. I would take even more advices and do opposite of those too.

I don't have anything against people who advocate gambling as harmless fun and a good past time. But when someone talks about taking loans to gamble more because they say you can't lose. That i consider a very dangerous advice. Also i would ask why did they lose before that, and what makes this magical next bet better?
 

Whether that message/chat is intentional or not, it's a crappy move if we will fall on that. We should know how to gamble responsibly. Taking loans or whatever is related to that is an obvious thing that anyone should not consider when funding our gambling activities and habits. Even if we afford to take a loan and can pay it back on time, it will just be an added pressure once we do gambling because we should not lose that loan money no matter what.

Take it easy guys. Gambling within only just our limits.

I can't tell. you need to provide more context such as posting a part of the conversation prior to this message. To me this looks like nothing but outright sarcasm and poking fun at the "99% of gamblers quit before getting their jackpots" which is of course a massive meme but certainly something that a gambler would find themselves believing in. On the other hand something tells me that they mean it truly cause at the end of the day, you guys are not only getting wins from the bets you make, you are also getting data subscription as you said, which to them may mean as something that would act as a consolation prize should they lose too much in the previous gambling rendezvous you had.

I myself wouldn't send something like that unless I'm with my closest friends, wouldn't want to rouse suspicion or make people think that I am an addicted gambler. I wouldn't want to improperly inspire an already addicted gambler to go further into the deep end cause as I said earlier, absurd as it is there are people who will fall for this shit and believe it with their heart. So yeah, since you're part of the conversation, what are your inferences? Do they mean it? What kind of person are they in real life? Are they someone you would think would fall for gambling addiction or something along those lines? These questions needed to be answered.

If you get addicted to the gambling addiction,you can get away from the gambling addiction.Because most of the gamblers was get addicted in order to recover their loss dollars in the gambling site.It may happen in the casino or sports betting doesn’t matter,but the loss happened in the gambling site.The gambling addiction will be based on the money flow to your income,if you get regular income like weekly or monthly.It was proven that,you can’t control your temptation to playing the gambling.


The gambler only had the control for certain period of time.In that time,you need to convert the crypto currency income to fiat and start to spend that fiat.In this way you can do control of the gambling play in the gambling site,even though you get gambling addiction.

At a glance, one could think it’s all fun and jokes and it could very well be. But these are jokes that subconsciously, we go on to do in reality.
Gambling just on weekends like you lot seem to do is quite safe and not necessarily an addiction. But what your mate posted is pushing it. He may not have been the person who wrote that but he seem to agree on what was being said.
For some irresponsible gamblers, that could be more motivation to play more than ever as your big win is supposedly around the corner. Taking loans to continue playing and ultimately falling into financial difficulties.

True, the fun and entertainment you will get from gambling is if you engage in it with a level of awareness, but if it's the other way around, or you can't control  yourself and are always easily tempted by something that looks like it's there then it's clear as you say that it's no longer about fun or entertainment but rather a situation that will make you feel some mental and psychological pressure that you will feel due to losing an amount of  money that you certainly can't afford to lose.

After reading more about what you said it seems that I would slightly conclude that you have the wrong approach to gambling, or it seems that you are one of the people who do not really understand what gambling is, which is that there will always be something tantalizing like getting some moments that should get a win but it doesn't happen, and obviously after that your interest and curiosity will increase and absolutely cannot miss the time not to gamble. So in my opinion it seems that you have to go back to find out more about what gambling is so that you can change your point of view and mindset, if you have found the answer then I think your interest and hope for victory will be a little less, the other thing is that you better keep yourself busy by finding some other activities that will certainly take your mind off gambling.

stupid move in my opinion. After all, why take out a loan to gamble when there is no guarantee of profit. Even though gambling started out as entertainment, when people become too addicted to gambling they will do anything to get money and gamble. have become addicts and become loan takers and it will create very serious problems when they cannot pay the loan and money is lost in gambling. Do gambling according to your abilities and it's better if it's just entertainment.

There's no way to know whether this is just a joke or a serious advice. It could actually be simply sarcasm. We don't know what context this was posted.

However it seems the obvious exaggeration in the statement means it isn't really a serious statement. You don't take it as it is, literally. It seems it is for fun. The first line itself is clearly not serious. It's an ironic statement to remind the members of the opposite, that you can't just continue gambling and lose everything to the point that you need to take a loan to place more bets.

That's just a sarcasm or a meme where they reverse good advice to make fun of the people that are needing that advice. And my view on this is that it's just a fun stuff that OP's friend are sharing in their gambling group because they all are in it on the joke and it might seem weird to outsider since there's no context behind but smart people can just imply what's happening. It's not deep joke that it will pass so many heads and don't get it so I think that we're just overthinking stuff too much because we want an explanation.-
There's a way to know, it just so happens that it's subjective until context is provided by OP. There's a context sort of that's been provided, that this was posted in the groupchat of OP and they mostly talk there about gambling.

Its like the picture shown saying is "gamble or bet even if you don't have money, loan and loan until you win." That we know is not the case. Taking a loan to be used for gambling or betting is the worst because you only make things worse. At that point, it is not fun anymore; it is more like a suicide, not even an addiction. Imagine you having no more money, then keep on loaning and loaning just to hope that you will win someday, which will make you more broke, and worst case, you might encounter more problems beyond gambling addiction. You see, a loan is a very dangerous thing. What if the app or person you ask for a loan could take precautions and threaten you so you will pay your debt?

If in this phase you will say or someone will say that it is fun, then you are crazy. How could you have fun if you know you have loans to pay and keep on losing money because of your friends hobbies? No, it is not, and it will never be fun at all.

I feel like this was kind of inside joke within a social group so I don't think it is something worrying. Many people use WhatsApp groups to talk about sports betting in my country. Especially university students are doing this. They keep sending their potential bets to each other, regularly check odds to find perfect ones, and sometimes I see there are jokes running in chat. Gambling addiction is something totally different in my opinion, people are just having fun there. Male gambler groups are truly hilarious.

or something like fooling? because in all senses we cannot see truthfulness in this photo instead it is either stupidity to believe or allowing your self to be fooled.

and also that is a common word of Addicted gambler , who always believe that this is the last chance to win but doing it over and over again.


Enjoying in gambling is right , but we also expect to win at all time though can accept being a loser after that .

The individual that dropped the picture in the group chat might be playing and just dropped it there to see the reaction of the members of the group. He mightn't believe what they wrote on the picture but some individuals in the group will see this image and believe them. Newbies that only started gambling recently will see this message and think that's what others are doing and begins to gamble frequently therefore becomes addicted.

The image can be fun to some gamblings.that understand how gambling works and knows, you don't have certainty that you'll win when you're gambling but it'll be an addiction to those set of gambling that think they can get profits everytime they play bets. There are two outcome from gamble, you can gamble occasionally and have fun while also making profits and gamble everyday yet you don't make money.

That's what makes this compulsion become a new habit for them. When they miss it even once, they will regret it and make a schedule to follow it the following week. They will make sure to bet together with other friends so that they don't have any regrets even though, in the end, they will lose. This habit must be controlled so that it does not become excessive and becomes deeper into gambling and ultimately becomes a gambling addiction.

That means we have to have good self-control so we can enjoy gambling activities with our friends. We must not lose self-control, which could cause us to gamble excessively, disrupting our financial position. We can feel closer friendship by gathering with these friends, especially since we always attend the event. Only with good self-control can we avoid problems outside of the event and ensure we can do it. But if we feel uncomfortable using our money to bet, we can also reduce joint gambling activities and we can tell the truth to our friends.

The most important thing is not to miss out when you have fun with gambling. Gambling does have a tremendous effect on us becoming addicted.
The hope of winning certainly exists in every gambler, but gamblers must know when they are out and when they will continue playing. It's not an easy matter, especially if we play with the people around us. it won't stop you until you are completely exhausted.

Whether it's just a joke or not, words like that shouldn't be thrown around so easily, maybe for those who are easily influenced they will deepen their role in gambling and bet large amount because they may think that luck will always be there if they don't stop gambling and keep trying to bet until they get the expected profit, and maybe there are those who are determined to take out a loan if the money they use runs out. This will of course put them at risky of addiction because they are too chasing their ambition to make a profits.

Yes it is an important step for gamblers if they don't want to experience big losses it is better to use small amounts of money and use it to get lucky but if you don't get lucky stop immediately and don't try to deposit money again and again because it will cause you The more it gets out of controls and you will experience big losses without you realizing it early.

It could be that this is a satire to gamblers who cannot control themselves by continuing to gamble and when there is no money they take loans because they are always filled with the desire to gamble, but the person who made the picture is the one who best understands the meaning and purpose of making words like that.
Continuing to gamble using borrowed money is a big mistake, the opportunity to win is always there, but so is the opportunity to lose, no matter how confident we are in our betting choices, there is a chance of losing because there are many things that happen to athletes or teams that we don't know about so that the match goes on not according to predictions, but when the bettor continues to bet with the belief that he will win and still uses money that he can afford to lose then it is not a problem because everyone has the right to use his money to fulfill his desires as long as it is within his means.

Society has ill feelings about gambling and spreads bad publicity around their environment, due to the mistakes of compulsive gamblers to their homes and society; wasting money meant for the growth of the family and society on gambling. This has caused most families to suffer financially and are not able to recover after a long time treating an addicted gambler in their midst. Hence, it'll be difficult for that narrative to change, most families now have rules that wouldn't let any member of them associate with a gambler, responsible or irresponsible. However, they wouldn't see the importance of gambling as they'll think of it as a total waste of time and money, coupled with the damages it encrypted in their memory. Aside from that, gambling is a good way of relaxation and what Op and friends are doing is quite good and rewarding. Especially if they focused on discussing responsible gambling and helping each other not to become a victim of addiction.

But, from what I saw in the meme or photo he shared, they could be consistently sharing ideas, jokingly, that could lead to compulsive gambling. Moreover, friends can easily influence each other, and one person may want to appear different or impress his friends and then make the mistake of taking a loan to gamble. Their predictions are great and worth the reward for the winner, but naive players in the group can depend on those predictions as a means of generating predicting ideas, which could be wrong. Because, a member was right the previous week doesn't mean his prediction would be right the next weekend. All forms of gambling require money and time. It's only a matter of time a gambler who wagers a small amount could decide to put more money to earn big. Maybe when pushed by the decisions of friends in similar groups, or seeing that a member has won quite big in gambling. Those deficiencies they should hold on to and stop in the group and help their members to be careful in gambling and stay clear from being indebted.

Exactly! to the person who made that kind of post, I don't know if it is a sarcastic way of telling that people should stop gambling or it's just a normal post who invites other people to gamble more something like that. We know that even if you're a lucky person, there's stil no guarantee of 100% winnings and losses, so having a loan and using it for gambling is indeed a big risk to a person's life, It will cause them a wrecked and miserable life once did not win unless that person has a stable income and has a collateral for his/her debt.

That's not a good advice, it only encourages gambling addiction, don't take loan for gambling, it's a ridiculous way to become a good gambler, I use the smallest percentage of my income on gambling and I have lost it all, countless of times, if I have used a lot more I would have lost it all, gambling is not that safe and you will find out sooner enough if you think I am wrong.

Taking a loan or borrowing money is even worse, because you will be left in debt to pay up, if the money was all yours it would have been your loss anyway and you will find how to move but debt? It will affect you in folds, to get yourself will be tough because after paying up finally you still need to solve your own issue of not having anything.

I will never encourage anyone to borrow money for gambling, and to be a better gambler its good you have a job or any source of income, then make sure you use a small percentage to gamble, if anyone tells you that you will win on your first games it's very unlikely, don't compare yourself to others.

One  Game away - what if after 10 games you still don't win ? meaning another one game?

One  Game away - this is what said by addicted gamblers in their desperation when they run out of funds.

One  Game away - Said by losers that wanted to share his way of losing to others

Losing is fine, that's normal in gambling. However, borrowing, that's like digging your own grave because it's already out of principle anymore, I mean that simply means we can't afford what we are doing the reason why we borrow.

Borrowing are only good if you have emergencies, at least for basic needs, and also you can borrow to start a business, it's kinda risky too like gambling but at least it's not based on luck because you have the skills and you trust on it to generate money for you.

This may be a joke because this is too much, and if truly this person is doing what he posted, then we can say it is addiction because anything that will make a gambler lose money and continue gambling to the extent of taking out a loan to gamble, I think that is addiction, and he has already gone far in gambling. I don’t think this person will stop gambling again. Any gambler who can borrow to gamble that is not for fun anymore If it’s for fun, he would have stopped if he didn’t get money to stake another game. But since he is already addicted, you can see that if he doesn’t have money to gamble, he will take out loans just to derive pleasure.

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However, this kind of thing isn't supposed to be posted publicly; new gamblers will take it seriously. Although gambling can be a good way to make money, we shouldn’t rely on it. So new gamblers may decide to take this type of step in gambling even if they are losing just to make money. Borrowing money to gamble is totally bad. If you don’t have money, don’t gamble. When you do, allocate some of it for your gambling activities, and the rest should be used for other necessary things that will have a positive impact on your life.

IMO. That's a bad message. Gamblers who have been gambling for a long time will laugh at the message and say to themselves that someone is fooling other people through the messages sent.
Beginner gamblers who are still actively thinking will not agree to carry out messages like that because this is clearly an invitation to become poor, not an invitation to make gambling a pleasure.

In gambling, playing without debt is the most enjoyable thing so that winning and losing will not be a burden for gambling players.
Winning will make you happy, losing will definitely happen in the game.

We need to take caution and exercise restraints about what we post on the internet and even what we consume on the internet. The have to power to capture and confuse our psychology. It could make those who are addicted more addicted and it could also discourage those who want to.

The OP should talk about this in his department WhatsApp. There should be a warning message for all to take responsibility.

Well from my own perspective if the gambler continue to gamble responsibly that isn't an addiction and should continue as long as they gamble with the amount of they can afford to lose, however they shouldn't go at the length of borrowing or obtaining a loan to gamble if done that is absolutely irresponsibility, of course that message posted on the WhatsApp group isn't a joke therefore it's the responsibility of each member of that group to use their initiative in deciding what to do with that advice and I am very sure almost all the members of the group wouldn't take that advice seriously as stated there because gambling responsibly won't provide or create a generational wealth rather provides extra source of income.

I find it as a joke. A gambler will never be that stupid to follow that (joke) advice. The message also tells us something -- gambling is just for fun, and nothing has to be serious about this, or else, this will lead us to take loans and our lives miserable. If we are into gambling, we make sure that we have nothing to regret when losing instead, accept the fact that we are not lucky today and stop, maybe the next, and come back again.

If we understand how gambling works, we don't need to be emotional. And avoid chasing our losses in order to avoid more losses.

This kind of quote can best be presented by a gambling company. Looking at it intrinsically, you'll notice that it has an underlying tone of "profit for the casinos" but if it isn't from the casinos or gambling companies then whoever came up with it is either someone who has won a bet or a game or someone who is addicted to gambling.

That's right, don't take a loan to gamble because it's not a solution to the losses that have occurred, those who lose by gambling and take action to take a loan to gamble again is the wrong decision, there is no guarantee that they will win by taking out a loan. Maybe that is the stupidest act that gamblers do, because they are addicted to gambling so it is natural that they do many things to get money and to gamble again. it's just that it will only make them difficult in the future by living in debt, it will make it difficult for them every day, because there are more responsibilities that they have to think about, especially if they don't work but they are addicted to gambling and taking out loans to be able to gamble is a deliberate problem. invited. However, if you really want to gamble, you should use personal money or bonus money so as not to interfere with your basic financial needs.

That's right, it will be difficult to solve everything if they are already in a lot of debt, and maybe their lives will be ruined by taking actions that are at great risk to themselves. because it is very rare for people who have debt to pay it, especially gamblers, even if they win, I don't think they will pay off their debt, instead they will gamble again to get a bigger win. taking a loan to gamble is a very wrong action.

Hell yeah. It's so obvious, lol. But, it's also possible that the one who send that message are addicted to gambling. We don't know, maybe he wants the people in the group to be like him? I don't find that word often in the groups (private or public) but I think I already heard the first sentence in the pic.

There is only a slight difference on the way they wrote it but the point of the message are the same. If I remember it goes like this "gamblers stops, when they are close to hitting the jackpot ". When it comes to gambling loans, the only way I know that gamblers will make a loan, is if they gather a legit insider info about a match that is going to get fixed/manipulated. As that is sure than the others.

Gambling with the amount you can afford to lose won't make you deeply addicted and it's nothing but fun.  But when you spend more money on gambling than you can afford it will lead to many bad experiences for you and at one point you will play in a deep addiction from which you will not be able to come out.  The way op posted the screenshot doesn't sound like the person who posted it is in their normal behavior.  So I think he might be deeply addicted to gambling

And what we need to be careful of is that we should not be easily tempted by interesting things in gambling, like the example above, in my opinion this is a trap or attraction for gamblers that they will win, so don't stop gambling. Then what about the results if we carry out these orders, will we really win? that's still questionable.

And what is certain is that when we gamble we must always be careful, it's a good idea for us to carefully research and understand every quote or post that we think is still very doubtful, so that we don't experience new losses and problems when gambling.

Gambling with a loan? This is wrong and financially suicide. Any intelligent person knows that gambling is a risk, although a calculated one. Borrowing money increases your risk and plunges you into a financial pit. Discuss addiction. The monster whispers the next great win. However, we realize that win is a mere illusion. Gamble, lose, borrow, repeat—despair. As debt mounts, what do you have? An ocean of regret and a bank account begging for mercy.

If you want to gamble, fine. Use your own fun budget. But with borrowed money? A one-way ticket to Ruinsville. Though financial ruin is a major factor, it's not everything. The mental toll, tension, and worry. Getting up every day knowing you owe money you kind of wasted? Constant tension and regret are a nightmare. Remember the effects on relationships, careers, and life. Gambling with borrowed money is a whole different tragedy than with your own. Avoid the loan shark's bait and be savvy.

For me, it borders on criminal. Recommending non-stop gambling to people selling them that they are going to win generational wealth can only be taken as a joke because if it is serious it is totally delusional and asking for loans for gambling in the same context should not even be said as a joke.


I think that is the only way that what is written has a pass, that he is hooked and sick in the head, so what he needs is psychological help.

It depends on how each individual sees that. Your friends and colleagues in the group chat can tell if they are addicted to what you guys do every weekend or if they just do it for fun and it wouldn't affect them or their mind if they stop doing it. Sports betting in general isn't as addictive as gambling games, and  if one is only doing it once a week or maybe twice or thrice a week just to have some fun, that wouldn't have that big of an impact on them and their life.

However, if the ones who are participating in this are taking it way too seriously like everyone is trying to win at any cost, they are getting rude to each other and having personal grudges because of it, the friendliness is turning into enmity, then I would say it is turning into something bad and we can't call that being fun.

I take it as a sarcasm, not sure how you take that message, I guess you think it's serious.

The reason why I think it's sarcasm since your friend suggest to take a loan for gambling which is obviously stupid, some of my friends making fun with such jokes too. Maybe you could keep watching your friend about what he do and what his life in the next month, if nothing bad happen then your friends aren't taking out a loan to gamble.

It's obvious sarcasm for the group. Who in their right mind would behave in such a way? It's like a recurring joke for the group to avoid irresponsible gambling behavior. If your friends have made it a mandatory activity to gamble every weekend because of a game or chat, then it's important to remind them to gamble responsibly. As a friend, it's your responsibility to ensure they are not engaging in harmful behavior. The individual who initiated the score prediction game does so to bring joy to your group chats.

Basically, I think that if the involvement is still within reasonable limits, which means that it does not cause too many financial problems for him, then I think there is nothing wrong if the activity has really become a habit in his environment, but the problem may be that this situation is quite worrying because after all, something that is uncontrollable is always unpredictable, or it means that there may be times when one of those who try occasionally acts aggressively and excessively. That's right, this situation does need to be watched and controlled well so that all involved don't end up addicted.

One of the things that can be done is maybe I hope there is one of them who always reminds them about the dangers of addiction or even better to remind each other so that they can keep their awareness so as not to overdo it. On the other hand, the fact that losing control and forgetting some of the boundaries they have made before are still very likely to happen as I said above when they are really tempted by something they see. So in my opinion what is better is if they can better find other activities on weekends such as going to one of the entertainment venues or the gym and get used to it slowly, because after all in my opinion gambling is an activity that inevitably has to use money and the risk of losing is always lurking.

Gambling should not be the highest priority in life. Moreover, having to use money from a loan to gamble is the same as risking your whole life.
But it seems like this is sarcastic language for your friend who is addicted to gambling. Because whatever it is, you have to gamble happily, without using all your funds.
What is written is really stupid advice in my opinion, because it influences your friend to use the money from the loan and tells him to continue gambling.

Yeah, that's what I thought too. The only problem is, we don't really know the dude who said that so we cannot judge if he is being sarcastic or not. But OP seems to be taking it seriously. There are gamblers who like to play with the minds of those new to the gambling industry and the cause could be boredom because they lack the money to gamble again. I've seen many of these types of people in the chatbox of a gambling site. They tend to just waste their time being sarcastic with other people or sometimes they beg so that they can play again even if it's just for $1.

Perhaps if somebody knows that dude it should be OP because he is part of their group and some gamblers do the same chat over and over or discuss things about the same topic only. He could be playing mind games or he is serious about what he said but it is not recommended to do loans just for our bad habits.
It's gambling, not an investment so we may as well treat it like that or else we are going to lose more in the long run.

I agree with you because gamblers will not be that stupid in making decisions even though we may often be wrong in taking action. Gambling that is lived only for fun is not a big problem because we know this is done only in certain conditions. Usually I gamble when I have free time and get a little bonus from work, the goal is that I do not use a daily budget for other needs to gamble.

Unfortunately there is no way for those who are addicted to avoid emotional because when they lose some of the initial bets will make them more motivated to continue and their hopes can get a victory in the next gambling and even though it is no guarantee. Different when someone only gambles for pleasure and maybe they are a little more able to rely on emotions so as not to lose a lot of money.

Pls you don't need to take this serious, it is actually a joke. I think have seen this somewhere.
It might be just to ridicule those who continues  gambling even when they know they are out of funds.
It is not good to taking loan just to gamble with it, that is the worst risk that a gambler can take, it is better off selling one's properties than taking a loan which you never sure of the outcome.
Some people who have done this and had their bitter experience often ends up in depression and are most likely to live in abject poverty because they are indebted to a loan source
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Those who believe in this chat are going to spoil their lives because in such one try more they will loss all their money. And those who initiate taking loan to continue gambling as they are in thoughts that they are one try far then they are not only make themselves distress but also become a burden on their family. Its not a joke therefore think before you accepting this message as with this single line your life will become unpleasant.

Remember that if you are continuously attempting for another twist of fate to get your money back then your addiction will never ends but will getting worse with the passage of time. This is the message because of which all new users of gambling turn into an addictive gamblers and then they move from taking loan towards selling of home, lands and so many other things and make the lives of their families dejected.

For me this is already an addiction specially if you are already taking a loan or debt just to continue on playing.
If it is just for fun people wouldn't overspend and only gamble what they could afford to lose, they also wouldn't consider taking debt or loan just to continue.
For me when someone is already willing to take a loan or debt just to continue what they want then it is already an addiction.

That could be sarcastic but still, it encourages you to gamble and I don’t want to be kill joy but for me that kind of group chat is not worth it. Imagine having that group that reminds you to gamble from time to time, that can be stressful and seriously, I don’t want to encourage my friend to gamble as well. Its either for fun or quiet serious, but the thing here is that some might already addict in gambling and that can also influence you to gamble more which is not healthy for me.

I agree. If a person can no longer control himself to the extent that he takes loans without thinking how he will pay them back in case of failure, it is already a rather dangerous addiction, which can lead to very sad consequences. In this case, the only thing left to do is to treat the person

If the amount of money that has been wagered is small and since this is something that only happens on the weekends then I do not think we can talk about an addiction or anything like that, however the image that you shared is without a doubt painting a false image about gambling, as it is impossible to create generational wealth with it, losing is almost a certainty over the long term, taking a loan is a very bad idea and people should be able to stop gambling whenever they want.

Where's the fun there? You are 90% going to lose in gambling and that's why if you take a loan and let it lose, where's the fun on that side? you lose money and then you're obliged to pay the loan and with the interest that you'd agreed upon. I don't see any fun in there but only full stress and problem. I'd gamble with a few penny but won't have any problem losing them and no need to think about interest rates that comes after the loaned amount. It's better to gamble at peace without anything that confuses you at night because you've taken a loan.

Who ever that posted the screenshot in the group must be a core addict and if you check his debt profile you will already know how much debt he has incurred from this same approach that he has toward gambling,  I believe that many of your group members won't take him seriously because if they do it will result into massive debt increase among your department mates.

How can someone say you should take a loan to gamble with,  this is the most funny thing I heard in a long time,  even though many already know the risk tendency in gambling and how bad it could affect one life.

When people get used to placing bets, that's when they start to get addicted to gambling, and they don't realize it at all because of the fun of placing bets with their friends. And if it becomes an obligation for them to follow it, at that point, they will become addicted to gambling, and unfortunately, it has been going on for a long time, so they don't realize it. But maybe some people have realized that this has become a new habit and has also become an addiction, so they try to suppress their gambling addiction and limit their betting activities with their friends.

These people rarely spend their weekends with friends and prefer to gather with their families. They just try to limit their gambling activities so that they don't become addicted to gambling. And people who don't place bets too often every weekend can have fun because they know their limits in placing those bets. Maybe it's just to enjoy the moment, but when it turns into a habit and obligation for them always to be present and place bets, they become addicted to gambling without realizing it.

Just one stop away from generational wealth lol.  That is the worst kind of advertising no matter the level of truth about it.  It pulls at every gambling string an addict has.  I don't know what it's for but Id say steer clear of any groups that pump this nonsense and are serious about it.

For someone who thinks gambling can make him a millionaire or generational wealth that means the level at which such person have gotten into Gambling it can be called addiction.  For someone to be having a mindset of getting generation wealth in gambling it means such person will be playing gambling every days to accumulate millions of money for his generation coming.  Someone who is not addicted in gambling can never think gambling can make one to generation wealth.  Some of these boys might be having serious addiction problems,  since this is a game they play everyday.

 :D That's a bad influence and a very funny invitation to gambling, does your country consider gambling permissible or secretly? Speaking of marketing and offers in my country, there are also many scattered on whatsapp and facebook or other social media in the action of offering online loan platforms and gambling with similar algorithms, I accidentally clicked on several sites and offers of various variants of both gambling and world fund loans sometimes sent random generate unknown people, I don't want to get into difficulties and don't want to leave loans and finally I block them one by one. :D It's better to use the money from a little work and test the web just according to the money I want to spend not to force the situation especially when it will make it difficult for yourself.

I'm talking about conditions, even real jobs and businesses sometimes have losses and run out :D especially those that are different results from time to time, indeed when successfully predicting there are those who can cover for fun and make a big success statement for recognition that their predictions are as experienced as class, if an invitation is quite ridiculous I just ignore it ;D

If they are doing that then obviously its allowed because if gambling was really that been banned they wouldnt really be minding on doing that.Hence, we cant really just say that doing gambling is really just that good on placing bets on gambling sites on which we can do gambling even just simply making up some bets in between with your fellow workers as well on which you wont really be that
making  yourself that making up some bets which doesnt need any platform. This is why it would really be just that depending on how you would gonna make yourself deal up with
things such as this. Form of addiction? no its not because as long you are still that in control into your finances then it would really be just that fine.

That is an addiction, because gambling is not an option if you just want to have fun. You don't need to take out a loan to gamble so it's clearly an addiction. If you can afford to lose your gambling bets and that budget even if you lose, it's okay with you, you still enjoy what you're doing, then I can say you'll have fun.
When your gambling has reached the point where you take out a loan so you can gamble, that is a sign that you are addicted to gambling.

Gambling is one such platform where we shouldn't have the never giveup mind. We're risking money to make money which is much associated with luck. Over anything that prioritise hard work we can have the never giveup mentality and run. Surely we'll experience the success whereas with gambling it is like chasing the losses where very few succeed and the majority end up losing everything.

You never said if there used to be stakes made in the prediction before the winner goes with a data subscription if not, I would love to know how you are empowered to get the data subscription awards for the winner (s).
Of course for a gambler getting addicted is usually out of consents, most addicted gamblers would seize not to notice their advanced Indulgences while gambling until there is historical looses in lign negatively affecting the bankrolls.

Gambling on every weekends is cool but making it compulsory is where it is contradicted because gambling is not a reliable base that supplies incomes so compulsorily betting at every weekends is such an acquainted game that you basically don't care if you looses or wins.

You can't try to getting convinced that you are one way to winning after much looses couples with the instigations of taking a loan to keep staking because you smells winning in a closest.
So as long it is something that has affected your bankrolls and indebting you, then it is an addicted that your efforts is based recklessly out of control.

With the above quoted, there is no more fun in there since you could game til you goes bankrupt and getting indebted. So even though you do still find fun in It, then it is assumed you are lost of your minds.

This is what im thinking about trolling and having a loan just to gamble and get addictive just to lose more money this is much more worse than ruining your life future, its hard to make a joke about this gambling addiction although you're winning or losing this kind of quote needs to be on our self only not having fun around with others coz they can get ideas on how they can start gamble and end up broke in the end. you don't need more information about the guy who posted that quote we can see that see wants other to be broke period.

Yes, work friends sometimes bring new meaning even if someone is not familiar with the game though, I agree with you that there is nothing wrong with playing games or even small bets for the spirit of work. it will refresh the atmosphere and provide a relief from the boredom felt in the work environment, but if it is excessive and over time allows borrowing money from fellow friends, this is what is difficult to limit, because with a little joke and familiarity over time the bets and loans get bigger. it is difficult to return and this is the beginning of the fun hole turning into pressure and carried over in the work environment, of course when getting wages will spend paying loans, and regret it even though it is difficult to stop. because the environment and friends still continue. It is difficult to return and this is the beginning of the pleasure hole turning into pressure and being carried away in the work environment, of course when you get a salary you will spend paying the loan, and regret it even though it is difficult to stop. because the environment and making friends still goes on. although predictions are sometimes true.

Everything must be within reasonable limits because if we are still within reasonable limits, we will not experience any problems and can still enjoy gambling. We have been doing this gambling activity for a long time and maybe even since we were teenagers and our mindset has probably changed from initially just wanting to have fun by getting entertainment from gambling to wanting to make money. This makes us more aggressive and uncontrolled, making us gamble excessively. This is what we have to realize and pay attention to so that we can start changing what we need to change so that we can use gambling properly and avoid gambling addiction. It is true that this situation is worrying and needs to be controlled immediately so that there are no bigger problems and could end in gambling addiction.

We may still often lose self-control when playing gambling so that we cannot control the use of money, especially when gambling, we can forget ourselves because we get pleasure from gambling. However, we must be able to use gambling as entertainment that uses money. But as long as we can control the use of money, we will not overdo it in gambling and can allocate a certain amount of funds for gambling every week or month. And we can also enjoy or get pleasure from other things so we won't just focus on gambling. And it is true that as friends, we can remind each other not to gamble excessively so that no one among us will be addicted to gambling.

You're correct, when gambling we should not be chasing after our losses, when we lose we should take it as it is and move on. Never giving attitude shouldn't be for gambling or for things that need luck to win. Never giving up should be for things that need our focus and determination to win. Gambling just need luck and few skills, you'll be wasting your time if you choose not to give up when you're losing always and only hoping to win at the end.

Never giving up will only make you become an addicted gambler as you'll be gambling always without budget or time limit. When you do something everything, you over do it and that's how gambling addictions is born. If you're gambling for entertainment, there are other activity they can give you entertainment if gambling is making you to lose and if you're gambling to make money stop it or you'll lose more than you make.

I don't see that as an addiction but rather fun based in my perspective and I see it more as a sarcasm. Though if he sends it not for fun but a serious one, there's definitely a problem with that guy, it's either he wanted other to be addictive to gambling or he is addicted himself, but if it's a group chat with you all having fun of it and he shared it there, that's definitely just a humor and you shouldn't concern about it.

This is funny,to me,he isn't happy losing,he is crying but using irony and sarcasm to cover it up.No one can be happy losing,and even if you are very rich,you can't be happy losing money.Money is what every one is looking for,It doesn't matter whether you are rich or you are poor,no one wants to go broke after experiencing wealth and riches.So what I see there is him crying inside because he has had so much loss.Those who would take his message for fun are those who would suffer victims of loss because they will assume every other person is losing,and won't be afraid to lose untill they get addicted to it and lose all their properties in the name of gambling.Do not take that message seriously,else,you will have yourself to be blamed.

I have been reading through this thread and the comments but I haven't come across a comment like this, however you are totally correct and I agreed with what you have said, no matter how rich one can be both gambling or investment aspect, nobody will ever be so happy losing money in them, unless its a gambler that doesn't work to get the money like kid thqt don't have anything to use money for.
I haven't lost much on gambling because I don't gamble all the time, sometimes I will be so occupied with activities and I will not have much time to gamble, so that's what makes me not to gamble all the time. So someone like me will always be angry whenever they lose including me too, because we don't expect someone that worked hard to get money lose in gamble and still be smiling or very happy that's he's losing, no it is not done that way, those that even gamble for fun will also be angry when they lose more than 10 times on their stake and this is what makes it shows that only 5% of gamblers are gambling for fun and the rest are gambling just to see if they can make money from it.

For you guys, it is cool, it is just for the fun of the moment, nothing more, so I don't see the addiction that can be an issue here. What you guys are doing is just for the upliftment of the spirit of the group, nothing else. But if in reality, if one is encouraged with respect to the quote you bumped into, then it is no more a joke. The person should just avoid such advice because it is nothing but Evil. One will not know the time that all his money would be wasted in the name of betting and evil/selfish encouragements.

To make matters worse, the person was still encouraged to take a loan even after losing all his money just in the hope of betting more. There is nothing that can make someone more foolish and addicted than this. Gambling should be pursued differently and responsibly, and I know that this kind of advice can never lead to responsible gambling. So it is better to flee from such as early as possible.

Yes, basically everyone has a different nature, some are easily affected or offended and some are in the same direction as the person who said those words in the sense that they understand that it's all a joke but it's better not to say words like that even though basically it's nothing more than a joke, nothing but to minimize and maintain a relationship with them so that it remains fine without any problems. On the other hand, the worry is as you said, for those who are easily offended it is not impossible that they could take out a loan to gamble and chase victory with the intention of proving to people who like to scoff at them.

Putting enough money or what we can afford to lose is always recommended, not only to beginners but professionals also often emphasize risk management rather than pursuing opportunities that are basically uncertain, but unfortunately there are still those who forget some important points like this just because they are too focused on winning which always has no certainty, and for people who can do things like that in my opinion only those who have a proper understanding of gambling, because on the other hand it is not easy to apply some precautions if they basically have no awareness because the focus is only on winning.

This is a good way for those who want their life to be ruined, they can take out a loan to gamble so that their life is ruined, but I think this is done by people who don't have common sense, because gambling using their own money can cause problems in itself. , especially if you gamble using borrowed money, of course it will be an extra problem and a burden on your mind that will also be even more chaotic. It's true what you said, this is financial suicide, because they will be in debt which also has interest at any given time, not to mention if they can't pay off the debt then they will be involved in big problems and of course that will make things difficult for themselves. The problems they have will become stressful and this will have an impact on their mental state which will of course become chaotic. If their thought patterns are chaotic then their lives will also likely become chaotic because their thinking is no longer normal. In my opinion, the monster who whispers that they will win soon is not true because it will only make them lose more money and winning is just a dream that is difficult to achieve because the chance of winning in gambling is very slim, so no matter how hard they try, there is no guarantee that they will get it. win easily, it's better to gamble just for fun, don't do it too much which can make us addicted and uncontrolled.

I gamble with my own money, not by borrowing, because I'm not stupid in gambling, those who can borrow money just to gamble are people who don't have common sense or their common sense has been lost. they will deal with loan sharks, I think they do that because their common sense has disappeared and makes them dare to do actions that are beyond reason, I'm not sure that by borrowing money they will win, because after all they won't get a win if they don't have luck in gambling, "the devil who whispers continues to play a little more and wins" and if they do this it means they are successful in following the devil's invitation which plunges them into gambling which has a dangerous impact with many things they will lose. They will suffer financial, economic, relationship and health losses if they continue to gamble. their lives will be ruined by just doing unclear gambling with their winnings.

If both gamblers talking about this. Then there's high chance that this is a joke but a joke that gamblers must not do. Cause this is a serious one that  gamblers must not involved in loan to still play in their favorite games. Cause we all know that everyone of us here  has a chance of being addicted once we can not control ourselves in gambling so it's better to stay focus and do not hurry everytime we put our bet to prevent regret.

Yes, maybe this is just a joke for those who have lost a lot in the games we play so they cheer themselves up to be better after the defeats they get.
Lending money to gamble is not a good thing to do because this will cause us difficulties if we cannot pay off the loan because we lose while gambling.
It is important for us to be able to control ourselves in the games we play, because if we cannot control ourselves then we will suffer many losses in the games we play.

I think it is just catching of fun.  Since you are almost familiar with each or at least comfortable sending message to each other in your group chat.  It is like a parody of never giving up on every opportunities that knocks in your door.  Same like those who gives up losses but those who continue emerge victorious.  But if we take it seriously there is some truth on the sent message, it is that it is somehow hard to realized and the loan stuff should not be seriously considered.


I also look at it as a fun moments for those people in group chat. I believe they are kidding with each other and the tone of the message is light and should not be taken seriously.

It's true that self-control is important when you gamble because if you go too far and become greedy, you'll surely run out of money because we know how dangerous gambling is, we know what we're getting into. A loan is not really an option for gamblers, maybe it becomes an option for gambling addicts, but those who are not addicted to gambling and are still in the right frame of mind will definitely not take a loan just to gamble because we know how dangerous it is to take a loan especially if you are already in debt and you can't pay it, your life will be ruined even more.

What happens is that lending money to gamble is not good, it is not recommended and it is not about doing things that way, I could think that things can be seen in other ways, in this case when a person spends money it is possible that they can see ourselves as something not necessary and this contributes to the diction, because addiction is a serious problem, which is always due to the fact that it does not exist, for that reason it is that when we are doing any type of thing in the casino, we must avoid falling in the emotions and that the game goes to the plane of the emotions because that is a direct shot to lose, I do not recommend it, you must change the style of play because something like that is harmful, harmful to everything, for that reason when we are trying To do something well we cannot think about lending money, it is always better to play with our own money that we are already willing to lose because otherwise it is very difficult for things to happen.

When I am in a place I am always going to say something, if I have 100usd, I am only willing to lose 10usd, even if I have all the desire to play, even so 10usd in that case is a lot of money to risk, and the most likely thing is that lose, that's why when I go to a casino what I do is choose well the game I want to play and start playing, if I lose it, I'm satisfied, because what I had to do was that, just play and enjoy my game, that's what Basically, it should be done so as not to complicate things, and avoid addiction, and above all, take such serious decisions, such as going to lend just for a place, as I have said on previous occasions, I accept that money is borrowed to go and buy Bitcoin. , because it is something that can be very good in investment, but then at least we know that bitcoin is going to rise in price, a lot, but will it rise, when or? It is not known, but I know that will happen, so that is something we must see, it is risky, but I prefer to buy bitcoin with borrowed money than risk it by playing.

The gambler who want the gambling entertainment should not look for the gambling winnings.Because the gamblers who had enough money will play this way of gambling,they won’t depend on the winning dollar from that gambling site.Actually the gamblers need to have the fun from the gambling site,but actually they are not joker to loss the money all the time in gambling site.This was the biggest reason for the gambler use to learn the gambling at the beginning loss itself.So after some games he can make the huge money in the same gambling game by the experience earned at the loss game in that gambling site.

Of course, if they come only with the intention of seeking entertainment then obviously they will not care about winning, or the intention will not focus on winning because what they want is to gamble for fun through a few rounds that are enough to give a sensation of pleasure with the amount they are responsible for. You said that gamblers who come only for entertainment do not like to lose money all the time, I don't understand what you mean here, if indeed they come only for entertainment, aren't they one of the responsible gamblers who usually only put small amounts because their goal is only to find entertainment? We must understand that people who don't want to lose money are usually gamblers who come to earn.

Do you mean that gamblers can learn gambling after a few losses and then after that they can get a lot of wins with the experience they have passed? If that were true, the logic would be that many of the gamblers are now millionaires, but that's not the case. There is nothing to learn from gambling to get a win by utilizing experience, but gamblers can only learn from the mistakes they have made to minimize losses in the next session and not to get a win, because after all, winning only depends on luck.

That's a not so good advice for gambling, saying you literally can't lose is even silly, if gamblers are calculating how much they spend on gambling it's enough for them to quit and walk away but they are already caught by the hook of hope in making money from gambling, and this is the most unsafe mindset anyone can have towards gambling, call me an unqualified gambler I will accept, but I am able to control myself in gambling because I don't have the hopes on gambling, I am just doing it for fun.

The best thing you can do for yourself is to use small money in gambling, because you losing that money over and over is way more guaranteed than you winning from the casino, it's very hard to become financially free in gambling, so don't even reason it, erase it from your mind and do it for fun sake only.

Op I think that's not fun, the fact that you are being motivated to keep playing while experiencing losses it show the person behind that motivation doesn't like you or want the best for you,. And you can imagine the advise to take a loan for gambling, that alone should be a prove that you are not safe anymore with such person, except it's sarcasm the writer is just expressing. Because these days we see lots of people saying what they don't mean as per fun. Aside that, it's never a good advice to keep on gambling and then consider taking loan to continue.

Gamble responsibliy and avoid loans for gambling.

Therefore, if you want to gamble, do it yourself. Don't invite people or even your friends to watch and give you advice in making bets.
we play, we use our own money, and there is no need for other people's interference. if a problem occurs then they will leave without providing a solution. If they give you a loan, I think it's just a trick to trap you in interest-bearing debt. it's the beginning of a gambler's financial ruin.

Maybe after just few tries in gambling this person win a big amount of money? There is someone who runs a motorbike business after winning some big money from gambling and this stands as an inspiration for people around me, they use his name as a good reason to start trying out your luck.

I like asking them one question, do you really want to bet on your luck because someone luckily win a lot of money from gambling? It's not bad to dream big but take the right route and gambling isn't one of them, they got mad at me for saying this and they embark on the gambling for more than a year now and today they are still not as lucky as the man his, not even a bit close.

Luck is something you don't want to be so confidence of having, that's why many people have lost a lot of money to gambling, they believed that they will get lucky and they are messed up, from my own past experiences, I have now understand that getting lucky comes when you aren't expecting it, so how can you be sure that you will win in gambling?

Yeah mate, you are correct loans are another way to create traps for gamblers, and I most say, honestly speaking not everyone we hang around with are actually good for our financial health. Some person you think are your friends are just there beside you because you are doing well, some even go further to evy you and then put you in a situation of regret. That why most of the time I do my gambling online in my room without involving any one or letting them know. When you gamble all by yourself, it will be difficult to take loan to continue when you are a responsible gambler.

Without a doubt there are people out there that can be very toxic and can seriously damage your life if you are not careful, however those people are very easy to spot as they have the tendency to want to know everything about you as their intention is to later use that knowledge against you to manipulate you, so as long as you can see that behavior for what it is, you can just ignore it and concentrate on the people that actually care about you and that will not push you to try to take a loan to gamble, a decision which can easily change your future if you are not careful.

There is no business where you can get guaranteed success so luck will let you down for everything gambling is no exception. Because gambling requires you to take risks and put your mind to the fact that you will win. In my area very young children are also busy with online gambling but why is that? Because they are winning, the attraction to gambling increases. It is not unusual to gamble every week but you have to be quiet that the pocket cannot be emptied. If your income is high then you can easily control and play. But i have seen it is more harmful for the student body because they have no source of income so they indulge in other vices to earn gambling money.

Gambling friends? Well, majority of them are not a good friends, they are only good when you have plenty but in times when you are on your worst financial situation, don't get surprised because they will slowly crawl back away from you. So, I don't suggest to get attached with gambling friends.
Loans on the other hand is one way of getting yourself into financial troubles that would lead to depression and worse getting broke and homeless.

I agree on this. If you're into gambling, it's smart to keep things personal. Avoid getting others involved or taking their advice because it might not match your game plan. I personally dont like people who blame others when they end up in bad things because they followed my suggestion. So of course i dont do it myself. In terms of borrowing money, it’s a no no for me. I dont borrow nor lend money for gambling purposes.

Everything is because gambling offers the opportunity for everyone to be able to win many gambling games. But the problem is that they don't realize that to win from gambling, they have to use their money and will probably lose more than the amount they can. And when they win, they will forget to stop gambling because they want to win even more so they will just continue gambling. And gambling can attract young people to try it, especially now that there are lots of gambling advertisements that can appear anywhere so that more people will see it. Even though their income is high, if they gamble with big money, it will only waste all their money. Moreover, when playing gambling, there is a possibility that someone will try to increase the amount of their bet to be bigger than before just because they want to get a bigger win. But they don't realize that they can suffer a big loss too.

Yes, they are continuing to gambling online because they are "winning" which can be consider as a bad thing since it can lead to gambling addiction. Gambling could be considered as investment for some people as their spare money could be doubled or tripled by winning, and of course they are aware of the risk of losing as well. These young people have tasted the sweet victory of gambling and would want more, the greed will follows as they keep gambling, they would suffer a big loss and they would never stop as they would try to recover their losses. I mean they can stop themselves into gambling as they are limited with funds since they don't have money sources like income or salary, but eventually they would try to comeback hoping to win or recover.

winning is always the main factor for an addicted gambler because feeling an excessive sensation of pleasure will increase the dopamine hormone in our brain and everything turns very bad when the gambler cannot control himself or control his emotions of pleasure which will always provide a high risk if it can be done in the long term.

honestly, I don't really like someone who considers gambling part of an investment because this is something that carries the risk of losing money, and someone can even lose large amounts of money in just a few minutes. maybe rich people can consider this as an investment, but if you really want to invest, it's better to use your money in other investments that have a lower risk because gambling is not for profit and is just for fun without expecting a big win and if you win big, we can get it is just part of the bonuses given to us.

and regarding gamblers who chase losses, this is just a wrong mindset because they dont understand that chasing losses is the same as losing large amounts of money because as I said before, gambling is just a slightly luxurious entertainment and we won't win as long as we're not lucky.

Its is really just that normal that people would really be always having that kind of impression when it comes to gambling and the people who had been doing and dealing with it on which they would really be having that kind of impressions on which someone who do gamble would be automatically considered to be a gambling addict. If we do talk about on that OP been said about his colleagues or
co-workers do make out such bet then i dont see about the addiction on this. It did really just turn out that those kind of betting is really that a way on having those past times and having some
adding some ways to bet to add up some spice into their betting on which i dont see bad things to it. As long bet sizes in moderation then it would really be just that fine.

Yes that's right, actually this is a misunderstanding in addressing what gambling actually is, not understanding what they are doing makes them end up with an inability to accept the reality when they lose which ultimately makes them gamble based on the emotions of losing and instead chasing wins in order to break even or as an action to restore all that has been lost, whereas in gambling defeat is a very natural result because gambling always involves luck which means that if you are unlucky then obviously you will lose and lose some money.

Of course as you said that chasing losses will only make them experience a much larger number of losses, I would support their actions if they could control their luck, but isn't that impossible? obviously because after all luck is something that always cannot be predicted when it comes and when it goes. So the point is the understanding of gambling, especially opportunities and risks must be really emphasized, not only that, you also have to understand how luck really works, with that then I think you will not be rash to act carelessly and excessively.

No gambler is perfect, we just couldn't control ourselves and strict rules whenever we're in the system. We gamble for the wrong reason, there are numerous reasons why we gamble, mostly it should be for fun and not some ultimate prices of paying bills. We ought to become serious whenever we're in the system, we deal with what we think is important and served good priorities. Gamblers doesn't chase losses deliberately, they do it out of the present condition the faces from the system. No gambler plans for failure but due to circumstances they found themselves, they have no options than embraced losses.

No amount of hype a motivational speaker can make me go that extent. It is stated in different places that always play with your spear money, and not to take that risk even when it's affecting you. I guest this is not from gambling site because they alway say that people should gamble responsibly. And saying this now seems its a kind of setup. Gambling is a trial attempt to make money but not an investment that will make you spend a huge amount of money without considering the risk.

In my opinion, many people have the wrong opinion about gambling, where many of them think that gambling will provide profits so that gambling becomes a source of income in life, and of course this is not true,  because what is clear is that people gamble with the aim of having fun. Even though they still experience losses that cannot be avoided,  especially if they use gambling as their main source of income, it will only cause them financial difficulties.

and many of them gamble but are not prepared for the losses that will occur, so many of them cannot accept the losses and make them addicted to gambling which is clearly detrimental to them financially, if they gamble they should be prepared for losses that result in losses their money. because gambling involves winning and losing but what you need to remember is the large chance of losing in gambling many of them are addicted to gambling,  so they dare to take action to borrow money to gamble again. which will only make them more difficult in life

I agree, when you are in that moment, controlling it will not be your first choice. It's always revenge, and it will be done by chasing losses. It's wrong like @len01 said but how are we going to get our money back if we don't play more? I think the bigger mistake is by increasing the bet when we are chasing the losses. I've done it sometimes but its all a failure. Increasing the bets means more incoming losses and this will cloud our minds so we are going to think straight anymore.
After that, I just blamed myself for how stupid my decisions are because in that process I also shortened my chance to get a multi or the time where the RTP will come. We have to be patient about waiting for the system to give back because it will always do although most of the time it's not the same amount as we gambled. But cutting all those losses should be a good start and maybe patiently waiting again for the next multi will make us win. Rushing the wins never ended well for many gamblers, that's what I am trying to avoid now.

In my opinion, winning or losing is the same and in two conditions like this, everything can have an impact on addiction depending on how the gambler himself responds to each outcome of gambling.
Winning will provide additional capital and provide effect in wanting to win bigger, obviously this will keep gamblers on gambling sites or physical casinos longer until over time they become addicted.
Defeat also creates endless curiosity, even defeat can cause someone to be unable to accept the defeat and spend more money on betting.
This happens not only online but also offline, all forms of gambling activity have the same impact regarding addiction or addiction.

I actually don't agree with the notion that gambling can be used as place to invest just because when you win you can double your money, investing must be in the right place so that profits can be guaranteed and losses can be minimized.
In gambling, losing is something that is bound to happen, so can this be considered an investment?
Those people who think that gambling is place to invest must change their mindset so that in the future they can become gamblers who do not experience mental and financial problems.

I know they have jobs, they have businesses that can make money, but when they get to know gambling, they have to manage their finances well even though there is always clear, guaranteed source of income.
No matter how much money you make when you are careless in gambling, the end result is that it runs out with nothing left.

This is the right answer, however peer pressure is real and when people have been gambling for so long on the same group, the pressure for this to continue can be high enough to the point some people may decide to keep gambling by asking for loans to pay for their wagers, and this is quite dangerous, since a person could easily ask for more money than what they can reasonably pay and affect their future over something that was not really important.

This is a total addiction entirely.
You can't tell me they do it for fun or any of that,the moments one go an extra mile in taking a loan,boom that person is totally addicted to that thing.

I think its high time we let gamblers know the risk and level of what they are doing,before they inculcate that habit in the lives of the young ones

That's interesting; winning makes you want more, but losing makes you want to recover. I've found that this loop blinds people to their predicament. The excitement of possible riches overshadows the perils on this risky path. Too many times, gambling starts as a hobby but becomes a problem. The idea that one more wager could fix things is a powerful yet false incentive

I share your suspicion about gambling investments. I believe true investment requires research, strategy, and predictability. Gambling lacks these basics. Gambling is random and usually against the gambler. Many people are misled by the impression that gambling may provide a steady income. Calculated investment risk-taking must be distinguished from gambling's unpredictability. This divide is often obscured, causing bad decisions and financial and emotional pain

That is some kind of unethical way of encouraging people to get involve with gambling and I can see negative effects in this to those who really is following the same strategy specially to newbies. That may lead someone to being broke if it happens that they really get a loan and gamble. 😅

That's what makes people feel that they are getting closer to winning when in fact they will lose more and more. Only beginner gamblers who can control themselves will not be influenced by advertisements like that and will only gamble in moderation. They don't want to lose a lot of money so they will always avoid advertisements that tell them to continue gambling. Those who have played gambling should be able to see the fact that it is still difficult for them to win, especially if they borrow money from other people. It will only increase problems for them if they are able to solve the problem. And a person can become bankrupt in a short time if he sticks to what he sees in the advertisements.

What peer pressure are you talking about? Each of us makes our own decision. In my school days, many of my peers played card games, and I played with them because we didn't have internet and needed something to occupy my free time. Among my friends there were guys who did not gamble, instead they played chess. They didn't have any problems. Even if there was some pressure on them, they easily fought it off. Peer pressure can only be directed at weak people who don't have an opinion.

It's true that most people think that gambling can provide benefits if you can use your skills correctly because most people think that gambling using skill can provide profit. Thats why people choose to gamble rather than work because their goal is to be able to double their money quickly without any effort even though in gambling with skill there is no guarantee of a definite win. Gambler are still faced with many losses and in fact any type of bet only has a small chances of winning.

Gamblers who have the goal of making a profit will not accept it if they experience defeat because their goal is to get what they expected from the start, if gambling does not give them what they expect then they will do thing that are detrimental to themselves such as borrowing money to get the money they need and try to return their initial capital, hopefully they can make a profit even though I think they will only be disappointed because in fact they will experience even bigger losses.

Two different things in my opinion. Addiction and Fun. And gambling can fall in between the two of the divide. As some may take it as a career path to gamble and make a living with it. A lot more out there will see gambling as a fun game. As a way of unwinding their stressful life and spending it on gambling. For instance, a man out there have lived his life on a salary-earning job under a private firm and he suddenly just lost the job, a gambler can decide to take out of his sorrowful moment to gamble and make a fun out of it whereas another person out there with his job and take a time out of his business schedules to gamble. I think that's some addiction there.

And O yes, just to respond to the question of whether one can become addicted to any fun game. In fact, almost a 100 percent of gambling is in the games people play for fun everyday and that's why numerous people are addicted to gambling.


If I try to understand your point, the advice you are giving to gamblers is for those gambling not to firstly involve in taking loans to gamble and secondly, not to take loans using a majority or all of their incomes but just to take a few of their income, like 1% to gamble.

Well, for the first advice, I will completely agree with you over it and will not encourage anyone out there to go into loans to gamble. If gambling is seen as a fun thing and one is not already addicted to the fun, then there should be no reason to why you should go into taking loans to purposely engage into gambling and I will always discourage such decisions even when you claim to be an expert in gambling like some will do.

Secondly, the issue of using a little percentage out of your earnings to gamble, I think it's absolutely a thing of choice and the decision is to be taken by the gambler. However, just like in investment, where you are not encouraged to invest your money and profits to one investment, I won't also encourage you to use all your earnings to play gambling games.

In my point of view at the beginning journey of gambling is fun but slowly it create addection on it. Those who we are gambler from long time we know that what type of feel we do when we don't gamble for long time. We feel anxiety hesitated. At the beginning it's look like nothing going to happened but slowly we feel that we are getting addected with it. My point of view is day by day slowly we are getting addected with with it.

That's right, they should be able to realize that gambling cannot provide profitable wins quickly, and the steps taken are wrong where they don't choose to work but choose to gamble. Of course this is not right, if they don't work then they won't have income and if they are like that then gambling as a shortcut to making money is just a dream that is difficult to realize. because in my opinion, with them like that, it is very likely that they will only have problems with their own finances.

Yes, that's true, many of them can't accept defeat which causes them to spend more money because they continue to gamble with the motive of recovering losses that have occurred, and this will continue to happen if they are not aware of it, there will be no end to it. Therefore it is clear that they will experience large losses as you say, and if they continue to carry out this impulsive action there is a possibility that they will borrow money to be able to gamble again and the goal is still the same to recover the losses that have occurred. even though if they do it like this there is no guarantee that they will get a win that can cover their losses, so I think they are addicted to gambling so it is difficult to avoid gambling.

That's a critical point about the potential pitfalls of relying on gambling as a quick and reliable source of income. The idea that gambling can be a shortcut to financial success is often a misconception that can lead to significant problems. Choosing not to work and relying solely on gambling for income is a very bad decision. People need a stable and predictable source of income that is provided in employment. Gambling is inherently uncertain and can result in significant financial losses. Relying on gambling as a primary means of making money is unrealistic and can lead to financial instability.

The issue of people struggling to accept defeat and attempting to recover losses by continuing to gamble is a common challenge. This behavior can contribute to a cycle of financial losses and emotional distress. Gambling should be approached as a form of entertainment, and people should be aware of the risks involved. Sane poeple chase financial stability with certain income, not with uncertainty winning bets.

This is a bad advise for gambling  beginners,  and for old disciplined people in the field of gambling, its not an advice at all, rather its just another irrational statement from an irrationally thinking personality. This is a  destructive teaching and I suggest OP gives a valid opinion to the group to pitas the right information across to these vulnerable and less informed people that will be middle by that single writeup.

My experience has shown that it's a dangerous route. Gambling is enticing since it offers rapid cash, but as you noted, it's unstable. I've seen gambling's unpredictability tear lives apart. One thing is certain: a solid job gives you purpose, structure, and financial security. Gambling's volatility renders it unreliable for a living.

Chasing losses psychologically is risky. This behavioral trap traps people into financial and emotional anguish. My loved ones are caught in this cycle, which is heartbreaking. Your point about gambling being entertainment is key. It may be fun responsibly. Recognizing its risks and limitations is crucial. Financial stability requires planned, not random, steps.

Well, the truth is that if your family is in that Age group, you Should do Everything Possible to gradually improve your chances. The caisnso are spectacular for fun, but you have to be very careful not to fall into addictions, because Unfortunately what you are saying is that they are in an aid and that is something that they must Get out of as Quickly as possible so that they do not continue in that very dangerous cycle , what I encourage you to do is that, to not Stop giving them Support , because for them it can be the best to be like this ,  but Everything We know that things when they try to do more things they can't, they are in a Cycle where things have to happen for the Better , in a case that you have who are people who are all the time looking for the way to be happiness through the casino and Difficulty , because they will Naturally Feel a lot of Pleasure when playing , the money will become like a Second plane to them , because that is how they can Perceive when they are in that Phase , then if things are not Recommended in Casinos are like that , I could think that When it comes to Casinos and Addictions we Should be superior and Understand the Dangers they Face.

You just have to think , what will Happen when the money runs out ? How are they Going to get money to Play , but also how are they Going to have the Money to support themselves? If things are difficult these days , I know that all over the World things are Not so Easy to say that you can Spend a lot of money in a casino, so when Things get tough and that is something for which we must stick , and work hard to Achieve enough to live Somewhat Peacefully with our Food ,  Vitamins, have an adequate education for our Children and Above all so that things do not Become Distorted , in any case this is what we Should see with Great care when it Comes to Place , not to fall into Addiction, which is so easy for some to do.

yeah, it's obviously  not from a gambling site but if we are being truthful to ourselves , the owners of gambling shops makes their profit when people loose in the gamble and every business person wants to get profit so I doubt most of them care much on the addictive part of their business.

If they cared, they should have designed the site I such a way that after using a particular amount fir a day or stipulated period of time, you wouldn't be given access to the site. Most of them run social media ad that makes you fell that gambling isn't addicted and that winning is 100% guaranteed.

I have the same opinion about you, because if you are familiar with gambling, you will indirectly become an addict. At first he only plays on weekends. The longer he gambles, he will bet every day. It is better to stop or advise him not to do it regularly. being consistent at the weekend would end in disaster for him, how to advise gambling addicts is also quite difficult

This is why it would be always best that no matter on what condition or situation you are then it would be that just that normal that you would really be having that kind of approach in speaking about those risks involved about doing gambling but if you do something about betting basing up on OP stated situation then as long you arent compromising into those moments specially money then you should really be just fine but if we do see the other things around then it would really be just that normal that we would really be having that kind of possibilities on facing up those risks.
Making betting with other people or colleagues isnt really that bad even if you do it on day to day basis, it all matters on the control made out by someone.

When you are actually promoting gambling for money purposes, that is addiction, that is not even addiction at that point, if you do it yourself then it's addiction but we are talking about literally just having some sort of personal troubles with you, because you are suggesting others to do it.

I believe that the best thing you could do would be just focusing on yourself, do not give any other person advice about gambling, if you are telling people to keep gambling, you are making a huge mistake. What happens if people lose all their money and everything they own, while chasing the "generational wealth"? That is not going to come out of your end, that's going to hurt the gambler. So, it is not a good thing and people should stay away from these people.

In my opinion, this idea often occurs among many people, because this makes them not want to move, they tend to prefer gambling as a shortcut to getting rich or earning income, but what is clear is that this kind of idea is certainly not true, because with the idea like this will only make them experience large losses which tend to be unavoidable. If they are wrong from the start then there is a clear possibility that they will get bad results.

Of course, if they want a stable income they have to work, because it is not recommended to make gambling their main source, it will only destroy their finances, sooner or later destruction from various directions will come. and all this happens because they are addicted to gambling and it is difficult to get rid of this addiction because it is also attached to them. You are right, people who have a good mindset or are sane, of course they will look for income from realistic work, but if they are looking for income by betting or taking out loans to return to gambling, chances are they are no longer sane, because it is true that gambling can change a person's thinking. Therefore gambling must be played carefully and naturally, don't gamble excessively because that is the wrong action.

Gambling addiction is never gotten at once, it starts from your first game till the point where you turn addicted, some persons don't literally have to gamble everyday to get them to addiction but just any of the days the dedicate to gambling you see how much time they spend on it so much that they almost loose track of every other thing around them that day.

Some persons as part of their strategy play only on weekends and the only advantage of such persons is that they don't get to the point of addiction as fast as the person who gambles daily ad they can easily be helped if they happen to addicted because they may most likely not get chronic as the daily gamblers but then addiction generally isn't a good thing to deal with be it chronic or acute. For those who have gotten to the point of addiction it's best to quit and not even trying to control it because in cause of controlling, they may get to the point where they can get triggered and become addicted again.

I still don't know why people would want to take risk in playing gambling,  no matter the risk people take in playing gambling just to make profit by all means it still don't guarantee it will surely end up a win.  No amount of playing can really give people the desired money they want , it is just better to play with amount one can afford to lose and no need to invest much I'm gambling that will end up to be waste .

The win or loss is less important but the process of taking the risk and playing on in leads to a dopamine rush that gives a pleasurable feeling to the gambler. This sensation is what is important to them and not getting that means they will play more and more to get it more frequently, the same as any drug is taken to maintain its high and not getting that high leads to withdrawal.

It is the same method that many things operate in this world. TV shows, motivational speakers are all using methods to stimulate you neurons to feel that and similarly gambling works.

So the path is what gives them pleasure not the result.

This is what I would definitely call a wrong motivation. Of course some persons may perceive it as a fun but the fact is this particular write up will mislead a lot of newbie gamblers into staking irresponsibly and even into addiction. For those that are already addicts, it will only give them more reason to remain as addicts.
In my opinion, articles of this nature are not to be shared or published either for the fun or joke of it because of its misleading information. Some people may see it as fun and joke over it while others may take it seriously and put it into practice.

That's right, jokes like this are very inappropriate to be told in public. especially for beginner gambling players. If they take this seriously and actually do it, it will certainly push them further into the abyss so deep that if they don't die, they will definitely never be found again.

Yes, that is the wrong motivation that can lead someone into gambling and trying to continue gambling. They will not want to think that what they are doing is wrong and continue gambling because they think that they are close to winning. This will make them slowly become gambling addicts and they may not realize it, especially if they gamble excessively. Articles like that do not need to be distributed, especially to teenagers, because they can make them try to play some gambling games and mislead them because they get the wrong information. And it's not a funny joke because it can make people take it seriously, making them want to gamble more than do other things.

This seriously an addiction. Why will you take a loan to gamble. Gambling isn't a sure business or investment, then why will you encourage someone to take a loan for something that is sure you will make profit from. In real business, it isn't advisable to start with loan not to talk of something most risky than this.

Gambling is enjoyable within certain limits. But if someone is gambling beyond that limitation then it is not normal and it turns into addiction. And in gambling if someone tries to gamble with borrowed money or loans then I would call that a high degree of addiction. Taking a loan and gambling can make his personal life miserable and his family can also get into various complications by the loan effect. If a gambler spends 5 percent of his monthly income to enjoy gambling, it will not affect his personal life and he can manage gambling freely.

Its slowly going to the side of addection. At the beginning the journey started simply but day by day it getting better. At the moment you are getting slowly addected. At the end of monent you seen as addected. It's not fun maximum people taking it for professional so it's not abou fun. People take it seriously and they are addected.

OP its not gambling or addiction its foolishness. Especially the part where he said that they should take loans to continue betting irrespective of the disadvantages. Sounding as if it is so easy to take loans and repay when i know that some persons find it difficult to pay back loan. Now for instance if they lose the loaned money in gambling how will they repay it?

People should be thinking of the consequences that will arise after taking some kind of decisions. Instead of just focusing on what they will gain from it. In this life there are short term benefits with high consequences in the long run. In my opinion the idea of gambling till oke become successful should not be an advised to gamblers. The mindset should be that gamblers should hamble having the mindset that one day they may quit gambling.

I wanted to say that it doesn’t look that deep to be called addiction but the message you share is really not advisable. I don’t understand why someone would say that if they really care for their friends. Why would you tell someone to not stop gambling instead of advising them to look for an actual job. And he went on to say that you can take loan to continue gambling. OP, being in multiple debts is how this ends. That’s the storyline.

This one is already addicted to gambling and it shows that he will do whatever it takes just for him to gamble. I don't know why some people still think that they are supposed to make the money that will take care of them for life through gambling. Gamble when you can but taking a lone to gamble is not advisable.

It's because they see that someone can make money from gambling, so they still want to try it. They think they can get it someday, and it's only a matter of time that will tell. Meanwhile, they just need to keep gambling while waiting for luck to come and give them a win. Besides that, they also think that by gambling more often, they can get closer to winning, even though that is not true because they can experience more losses than they can imagine. Yes, we can only gamble as much as we can and not excessively, and there is no need to invite other people to gamble because we don't know how good their self-control is.

Each person is different but when it comes to perception about gambling then it would be mostly be pertaining about doing or making money and this what thrives them to play and continue despite
of the losses they made but we do now that there are indeed people who do play just for the sake of fun and entertainment. It would really be just that depending into a certain person
on how they would really be making out those reactions basing up on the condition that they are really that experiencing. Some couldnt really just that able to bare up with the risks
and there are some who could really be able to handle it out and really that get contented on what they are really that dealing with.

When it comes to addiction and fun then it would vary or would really be reflecting out into someones personal situation on which there are ones
who are really that just fine and there are ones who wreck up themselves.

The gambler who get addicted to the gambling will never come to know about their own addiction,because their ultimate aim of the gambling site will be start to recover the money from the gambling site.But the gamblers can’t recover the funds,if they doesn’t create the good strategy for the game.Most of the gamblers will play the few games,because they try to master of that game or they have wish in few games alone.Learning the game basics was the important one to the gambler who wanted to make money using the gambling site.The gambler who wants to make money by playing the gambling game should ready to risk the money and also to build their game for the future gain in the game.

When gamblers want to make money from gambling, they will still return to gambling even though they have lost a lot because they think there is still a chance to win the game. They will not see that gambling is just entertainment but a way to make money, so they will continue to return to gambling even though they will experience losses again. If people think that they have made a mistake by continuing to gamble, they should start changing the way they view gambling and not use gambling as a way to make money. They also don't need to gamble too often because that could pose a greater risk where they will use the money to gamble even though there is no guarantee that they will win.

But if they have reached the stage of addiction, they will not be able to see any changes happening to them. They want to gamble and no longer chase wins or recover their losses but have changed to just wanting to gamble. Winning or losing will not stop them from continuing to gamble because they like it and prioritize it.

The apetite to play is more their concern and nothing else inside their minds, gambling addicted person just wanted to play without any target, their desire to see them having a winning streaks or trying to recover whatever they already lose is no longer a factor, addicted gambler will play and play till they already emptied their bankroll.

And they will just keep repeating things over and over till they lose all their resources and still will try to keep on playing, they will do unexpected things to get the money to please their gambling participation.

I think so too, someone who is addicted to gambling will certainly not admit that he is addicted to gambling, but by looking at his behavior towards excessive gambling it indicates that he is addicted to gambling. it's true that you say that maybe many gamblers are gambling because of such goals, but in my own opinion it will not happen, maybe it can happen but it is almost impossible, with them chasing victory or wanting to get money back in gambling it will only drain their own money.

You are right, they must be prepared with the money they bet, they must be able to accept the fact that the money they bet can be lost in a moment of time, and with them already addicted to gambling in my opinion it is not a good thing, because with them addicted to gambling of course it will make them continue to gamble, and if they take actions like borrowing I think they have gone too far, because in my opinion it is the same path to destruction of life. so I conclude that if they have done excessive gambling, it means that they are addicted to gambling in other words gambling addiction.

Thinking you can recover all you have lost to the gambling site just like that is another way of tricking yourself into incurring some more loss because you may end up not winning back that which you have lost rather you will loose that which you are staking to recover that which you lost which will na become even more losses for you.

Sometimes you may be lucky to win back your lost funds but then discipline to leave after recovery may be lacking and that's the point where you may now end up with more losses than you would have had if you had stoped and moved on with that which you have won. Building games to be able to have a winning advantage is a very good strategy to winning but the problem lays within staying disciplined to keeping to such rule because some may really find it difficult to stick to such rules especially when they eventually grow the money to a certain amount, they will no longer have the patience and discipline they may now start gambling recklessly.

in my opinion it is a gambling addiction, why do I say that, because you said it has been going on for 2 years, that is not a short time, but imagine if you stop that activity, you will feel that there is something you are not doing enough, it cannot be denied or It is denied that he has accidentally become a gambling addict

I am afraid you are right.I also feel a bit addicted myself as I have been playing from not just 2 years but many years and I don't think I would feel the same if I spend days without gambling I will not feel the same,I start my sessions with the intention of having fun but I believe is more a form of addiction rather than desire of having fun.

Well, don't stop you're just one game away from generational wealth.  ;D It feels like that line comes from someone who owns a casino itself.

Over time it has become a habit already to bet whenever there is something to bet, it could be an addiction but yup I know what I'm doing I still feel like I can stop it anytime as I did when recently I got a new Netflix account. A new distraction from gambling seems like a good start if an addict wants to quit.

The gambler who win the money repeatedly is not the gambling addicted person.If the gambler use to play the game again and again after the loss of funds in the continuous way because of the gambling addiction.The gambler who try to target the loss in the gambling site to the future games will loss their funds all the time.Because he will make their emotions to play their betting in the gambling site.The gamblers who use their money in the gambling site was mostly like the risking of their money,but the loss alone help you to understand.You had won the money by using the same gambling game.But the gamblers who develop their skill to win also able to make huge money.

Not only an addiction but also a bit of coercion. They have a group where friends encourage each other to keep gambling and take loans if they need that to continue? That's just toxic!
These guys are nuts. It's like addicts convincing other addicts that what they're doing is fine, just like when criminals go for a beer after a "job" well done and say "did you see how this guy was begging me not to beat him up? That was funny!
So, my advice to you OP, stop being friends with these guys. They're beyond help, but maybe it's not too late for you, since you came here to ask about it, so it seems like you see there's something wrong with the way they act.

Whoever created and promoted this encouraged irresponsible gambling It is fun if those involved are friends and the atmosphere is fun and enjoying the conversation, but it's different when there's seriousness in the chat group, fun or not this is not to be taken seriously, we all have to stop gambling at some point and it should be based on your decision alone.
Stopping gambling or continuing should be based on one's decision and not because of the urge of your group or someone who has the authority to tell you to do so, we should decide for ourselves because it's our money and our enjoyment that matters.

That is my take on this situation as well, gambling with our friends is a very common thing to do, and whether this is done by playing poker or making a few sport bets among the group of friends, no one would say there is something wrong with this, but encouraging your friends to keep betting, taking loans and even assure them they cannot lose, when we can prove this is mathematically false, is a huge problem, and if I knew those people I would stay away from them.

I think it's pretty much BS. Gambling is nowhere near to give you generational wealth, unless you are a casino owner. It sure is not impossible, but it will take a really long while before you can be successful as a gambler. Mostly, it will not really come from being a full time gambler yourself, but having other means to have income such as being a live streamer or content creator about gambling, being an affiliate or ambassador, and having referral links and codes to generate more profit. But if you will just solely rely on gambling, you need to have strong mental health for it and lots of funds. Additionally, you must have a strong sense of discipline and responsibility so that you won't get lost in the process of achieving your goal to have more money.

Generational wealth from gambling is like walking on air, we all know how impossible this is unless one is a great magician, still possible but only few magicians can pull this trick, how many gamblers have turned wealthy in gambling? Maybe 10 out of millions.

Are you going to bet all your life and precious time on something that brings this thinly chances of luck to human? You may not the next number eleven because the chances are too slim, this is the true meaning of gambling.

What OP shared is a very bad advice and I hope it doesn't get into the mind of any newbie on here, telling people to take a loan is even the worst, you literally can not lose it says, LMAO, that's crazy.

People who are addicted to gambling want to continue gambling without thinking about the results because they would be very happy if they could gamble all day long. But the risk is that they must have a lot of money to gamble for a long time. But it will never be recommended because it will only make them deeper into gambling without being able to stop their gambling activities easily. They probably won't listen to advice from other people who tell them to rest first before continuing to gamble.

Yes, they won't stop until they lose all their money, and it seems like they have no regrets about losing all their money. Maybe they still have money to use for gambling, so they will deposit a larger amount to fill their appetite for gambling. I don't know what will happen to those who cannot control themselves when gambling, but they will become addicted to gambling.

In my opinion, recovering losses is the same as spending a lot of money, that's the big possibility. because in my opinion we shouldn't do that, because it's clear that the bigger losses will dominate. and indeed there are people who borrow money to gamble again with the aim of recovering losses, very unfortunate. Their will only directs them to actions that will cause greater harm, after all, taking out a loan to gamble is not right, because it will not possibly be as smooth as imagined.

Yes, that's true, even though it can happen, the temptation to gamble is strong, so that when they have won something that shouldn't happen, such as risking it again to get an even bigger win, because they want to get more, which leads them to the point of big losses You are right, most gamblers don't have good discipline,  causing bad luck for themselves. In fact, if they have good self-control and good discipline, it seems like bad things can be avoided or won't happen, but in reality everything turns around.

About taking a loan for gambling, that is actually the worst advise anybody can give to his or her fellow human being.

But then, talking about generation wealth from gambling, based on what you said, I did say that possibility of something happening being very slim is very different from impossibility, that is, as long as something as a chance of happening, no matter how little that chance is, it if wrong to refer to such thing as impossible to happen.

If we were to start doing research on this, we did discover that far more than 10 persons out of a million around the world have somehow won an amount that we can consider to be a generational wealth, most especially in the area of lottery, but like you said, chances are always slim, and I doubt those who won it even know or knew they were going to win it.

WhatsApp group chats seem more like friendship than addiction. Members can chat, debate soccer, and make predictions. It appears fun and doesn't involve gambling because the incentives are data subscriptions.

Bettors must be mindful of their tendencies and treat gambling as a hobby. Responsible participation, enjoyment, and no harmful effects make it a safe and fun social activity.

Nothing will stop gambling addicts, and if they are doing it for fun, they will enjoy it for that reason as well. However, if they are looking to gamble as a means of making money, watching sports is not a good alternative. Once you have the mindset that you can make money from gambling, you will never make any money and will always lose money because that is the only way you can gamble. People also don't even know how to choose games; all they know how to do is pick them at random. and you can not live through gambling you can just enjoy for a while.


Addicted people don't admit that they are always addicted and will tell you that they are just trying to survive not knowing that the amount they have decided to spent on gambling is enough for them to set up a business. but no they always want it the easy way. and life is more to been easy the best thing is to gamble responsibly. and if your money is gone while you gambling it is gone. playing very few games is smart and if you games are to much then it will even be more difficult to win. but they will always want to select much games to get bigger odd. they don't even care about strategy of anything they have concern for is there money.

Basically this is true and also this should never be the mindset of any gambler, is similar to this fact that there are some gamblers who has lost their money in gambling and made the goal of getting more or the exact money they lost from that casino and they actually do get it while alot have become miserable because of this mindset.

My take is that all these mindset of taking loan for gambling, wanting to get back the money lost in gambling, thinking of becoming rich, depending on gambling as source of income or regretting not staking more after you win should be avoided, never allow this cloud your mind or be your main goal. Gambling should be done for fun if you win good, if you lose no worries just learn better from the experience.

Lol this is an hypocrisy. Someone says this when they are at the extremes of addiction. This type of public will harm itself as well as the people around it. Gambling with loan can never be normal, here surely the person is addicted. Just avoid this kind of talk when you will see it. Always take gambling as for fun with what you can afford to lose.

It's really hard to imagine that you're going to spend all your money and assets that you have with something uncertain decision whether you'll win or not.  You're lucky if you're one of those people who gets richer because of gambling. for me, I'd be laughing if you had to drive to OP's shared post advice because which sane person would give advice like that especially to newbies in gambling? it's like the guy who posted that, wants other gamblers to be like him, he wants them to suffer at the same time because he already in debt and have lost all assets because of gambling addiction,

just relying on luck in gambling in my opinion is just nonsense. It may happen that someone gets rich from gambling, but it doesn't last long, because the greed factor will destroy it all in an instant. maybe you can win today and consider it luck, but not necessarily tomorrow. It's impossible if you've won a lot and don't think about taking a second chance at gambling again.

Addiction is when you just can't do without something,it is that thing you really want to stop,but it's very difficult to because there is something attached to it that you just can't understand.While Fun is something you enjoy doing,it is that thing that gives you joy anytime you do it,and if we want to relate the two,there is no way we can say gambling is fun when we are losing our money,each time we lose money,it has something to do with our feelings and emotions,there is that sadness inside of us,but because we still want to win,we'll keep on trying,and the more we try,the more we lose.I see some persons say gambling is fun,it can't be fun  because it has a way of affecting us negatively.

This is one of the worst advice I've seen so far when it comes of gambling. Loan to gamble?  That's very wrong. Who ever had created such images must be an addicted gambler. We shouldn't forget that gambling should be with money you can afford to loose and definitely taking loan to gamble you can't afford to loss it.

Someone who goes to that extent has already been addicted. It might seem to him like nothing but sooner or later, he will notice that when he isn't winning they money he had borrowed will start Ringing a bell on his head. We should have fun when gambling but donut wisely listening to such unreasonable advice or words from addicted persons will only yield more problems for someone.

This can be true for people who happen to have such big wins during their initial gambling experience.The fact that they will want to try again is inevitable in such context as they may be thinking how easy is to win in gambling leading them to try again and because of greed to lose it all.

It is a completely different scenario when an experienced gambler hit it big,I won about 10.000 dollars last year and I withdrew 9000 and kept playing the remaining 1000 not caring what happens with them.I invested in small cryptos that amount so experience plays a big role in how you handle success.

Using loan money to gamble is not a good thing to do because it can get one into trouble, however it is not for only gamblers but also for those that are into business, investment, trading and gambling.
Addicted can make one to be in a serious trouble because it is not everytime that one will gain in what they do, sometimes people have to encounter loses in their business or investment and not to talk about gambling, gambling that not even have a insurance of winning, it is not good as you have said earlier.
If a gambler have tried this that means he should get ready to meet loses and addictions. A lot of people who borrowed money to do these things fund it very difficult to pay back because they have lost everything that they have borrowed.
One can borrow money for something else like emergency cases, because they might have a source of income but at the time of emergencies they might not have the money to sort it out so they can just borrow and leter they pay back... As long as they don't use it to gamble, they can borrow and pay back.

Borrowing money to gamble would not be a good suggestion because it would give the borrower problems, especially if he experiences loss and loses all his money. Even though he has to repay the loan on time, he doesn't have the money to pay back the loan money. That is why we have to allocate a certain amount of money to play gambling so that we don't have to borrow money.

However, people who are addicted to gambling will not think about whether it is borrowed money or their own money, even though they know that they have borrowed money from other people. He also won't think about how to return the money to the lender, which might cause problems for his family members who have to return the loan money.

I agree with you on some points but I am confused on one point because I think that even if someone loses in gambling he is not happy temporarily but after some time he becomes interested in gambling because everyone wants to win. If one tries there he is defeated but he can win again. Another thing is the addiction that exists in many people, some understand it and some cannot even understand and control it. But if someone does not spend too much on gambling, then there will be no harm for him, on the other hand, if the income is spent more, then the addiction comes to everyone's attention.

Win-seeking drives us to underestimate losses, especially in the heat of the gamble.

We shouldnt demonise gambling. Many indulge in it responsibly. The excitement, adrenaline, and strategy can be interesting. Moderation and playing within your limits are key to any sort of amusement. Borrowing to gamble? The line blurs there. Betting a money you owe is different from betting your own. The former is entertaining, the latter dangerous.

However, borrowing for emergencies or vital necessities is different. Practicality is often crucial. It shows that loans are for emergencies, not gambling. Those who enjoy fun gambling should gamble for amusement, not destruction. Lighthearted, enjoyable, and most importantly, on your own playground, not borrowed.

Well, at this juncture, I wil have to say and make it categorically clear that, not every gambler who are or is addicted to gambling is this gullible and senseless, some addicted gamblers still have their sense of reasoning and can still think out of the box to know what is wrong and what is right, and some still do consider and put their family first in all their gambling activities, though rare you might want to say, which is correct, but then, very possible.

I do have once come across a gambling addict who still will never borrow money to gamble, he told me he feels relaxed and comfortable anytime he doesnt have money to gamble with, and at this point, he feels like he's no longer addicted to gambling, like he's never gambled before.
But then, his problems was that, immediately salary is paid or he gets money through some menial jobs he used to do, he will become completely restless, and until he gambles all that money away, he would not find rest, this to me seemed like a highest form of addiction to gambling, and I even sometimes imagined that his problems was spiritual, but never did I see or hear he borrowed money to gamble in all the years we lived in the same area.

Sometimes it's difficult how things get for addicts, in that when they start looking for money no matter what, prey or whatever, it's one of the things they shouldn't do , I've always said that to borrow money you don't have to. be under other types of Circumstances , first there should not be any type of thing that is gambling, and secondly to Borrow money according to my criteria it is for something strictly of last necessity, and that Adhering to the conditions of the lender, generally speaking They give loans with collateral and that is something that is really strong to fulfill, because everyone wants to take care of their money and everyone wants things to be good and favorable for them , personally asking for borrowed money is synonymous with Making things better. and be able to allocate things that are supremely important.

In the case of your friend , he saw you as a Solution , but in this case your friends made you see that it was a loan, but both you and he knew that that Money was not going to come back to you , that money was exclusively a rule For him and you Know it , I think he was aware of it, sometimes because you are a good person you do those Types of thing s, and all we need is to have many things so that it can be evident that everything is Favorable and Yes , both he and the player will Win a lot and will have so much money that he will pay you , but that is not the case , sometimes in the game , in sports betting, we have to see things with the responsibility that it implies, that is, They should not be under the illusion that they will get great income from the casino, no, that they depend on the casino to do many things, so sometimes the person's Culture influences a lot , I personally have Always said something, we must be people who are not conformist , but we must know that in casino we must sometimes assume things as they are , if we lose, we lose , if we win it is simple , we Have to Repeat , that is what it means to Play in the casino and Accept its Designs.

As far as I know gambling is an addiction many people play it for fun, but constantly playing it leads to addiction. Then if a person says no addiction but he must have become addicted. Things that give joy at one time in life gives dawn to despair. If you see that you are losing more money then you have to connect your emotions, the lost money will never be recovered. The way to eliminate the negative way is to control emotions.

And often people who have spent a lot of money gambling do not stop but continue gambling in the hope of being able to recover the money they lost. A person like this clearly falls into the category of addict and he will do anything to get money so he can continue gambling. He only realized his mistake when he had nothing left, be it money, friends, or family. This is something bad and anyone should be able to control their emotions before this happens.

If we occasionally chase losses, it may still be normal, but if we continue, we will definitely get worse and go bankrupt.

       -   Gambling is not bad if we use it correctly, and nothing is affected in our personal relationships with family and friends if the only intention is to have fun or just pass the time. But gambling with debt is a stupid move, in my opinion.

And the only person who does that is the gambler who has an addiction to gambling in a casino. Such thinking is no longer normal or correct. I don't know what the OP's main motive is for creating this topic. Are you just joking, or are you just teasing the community gamblers here?

I agree with that and that's because it happened to me recently. I lost a big chunk of money in Keno and I had been chasing my losses after that. I just want my money back, that's all. But sadly, it doesn't happen the way we wanted it to happen.
The good part about it is I stopped before it even wrecked my entire balance, somehow, what's left can be used in sports betting and maybe there I could win something back even if it's just a part of what I had lost. It will be a long battle to win it back but I am ready to do so.
I did what was said in the screenshot of OP and I know it's stupid. But when you are filled with emotions of anger because you have been on a losing streak, it's difficult to stop because you feel cheated like everything is rigged.
In the end, I will still gladly put down my ego and just wave the while flag. It's more difficult when we are on the chase, it's like the system keeps on running faster just piling up more losses for us. It's better to just give it up if we don't see any chance at getting it back. Try again next time.

Yes, that's true because gamblers who are addicted to gambling have lost their minds so they don't want or can't stop gambling like other people. They want to gamble and whatever happens, that's what they want. But if they can still think rationally, they may still be able to be responsible with themselves and their families so that they try not to experience a worse gambling addiction. They will still try to stay aware of their gambling addiction even though they still often return to gambling.

It would be good if he didn't have money, so he didn't gamble and didn't think about borrowing money. The only unfortunate thing is that when he gets paid, he uses all his money to gamble, and that is a problem that he has to solve because, after all, he will lose all his salary. Maybe he really needs to find another activity that also pleases him so he can avoid gambling and still have money. Even though it was difficult for him, he still had to try for his own good because his money should be used for other important things.

Hypocrisy is when the person does the opposite thing as what they are saying, so the people who post that pic in the OP is not an addict to gambling. But, indeed that it is still risky for those who are newbies in gambling because what if they believe on it? Pranks like this are not good and the person who post this should be confronted. I wouldn't care at all if they will hate me after that.

I don't want a kind of friend like that anyway. It's not that I'm too serious but I only care about the others. If only they can say it with me personally, I wouldn't mind it but since it was posted in a group chat, there are lots of people that can see the message or picture there.

Op, can't support the picture you shared, where advising gamblers to stake more! Even keep staking by taking loan? Thus gambling will be no longer for fun but it becomes turn into addiction for gamblers where money will only does matter. And there also said, literally you can't loose! I haven't got that mean! Cause we all know that, gambling is a place where people lose their fund more than win. So keep staking by taking loan could be dangerous and life can be ruined because of such steps.This is not normal and responsible behave in gambling. I'll never advise such thing to any of my friends who are engaged in gambling world

Its indeed bad if done in a unmoderated manner. Gambling should be kept within the reins of fun territory and not into the despair domain. Taking loans to gamble means that person is so desperate to win back the loss that they are taking more risks on their head. At one point it is just easier to accept that you lost the money and move on with your life while working a job to make it up.

Not accepting this "defeat" means you are driving your own pain and addiction without actually knowing it. The house will win no matter what, so it is better be quick about the acceptance and move on.

All these things can be avoided if you be the type of gambler who plays once a year at Vegas with some spare money while having fun with friends and not more.

I've always believed that unmoderated gambling may soon become a life-altering addiction. If you're borrowing to fund this habit, the pleasure is over and the descent has begun. Realizing the excitement has become a chase of loses is hard to take.

As you said, acceptance is key. In my experience, refusing to accept defeat perpetuates misery and addiction. Humility and realism are hard lessons. The house's edge shows that the chances are against us. Fast, bitter acceptance can be liberating. Cut your losses and find serenity moving forward.

Fun gambling is beautiful. Im in. Our annual Vegas trip, laughter with company, and excitement of the game with spare change are worlds apart. Pure gambling, without urgency or joy. Though the stakes are minimal, spirits are high. Remember that gambling is about the experience, not the result.

It should be clear that the people belonging to that group have developed gambling problems, because no one that knows anything about the math behind gambling will say anything like that, so that is a group of people that are trying to obtain profits in an activity that was designed specifically to avoid this, so not only they will never realize their goals but they will also lose so much money during the process that they will impoverish themselves instead.

If they do not realize that the risks will increase, they will continue to gamble, and they will even take out loans so they can continue their gambling activities. They will not see that borrowing money to gamble will only cause problems, especially when they cannot pay back the borrowed money. It is true that gambling is no longer just for fun but has changed its aim to making money, even though they will have difficulty making money and will lose even more money. People who already know this should not try it, especially if they don't have a steady income, because it will make them lose everything. That is why we must be able to limit our gambling activities to avoid problems that we may have never imagined.

It is not about the gamer but the game. Whether you accept it or not, luck is gambling and gambling is luck. When we say something is dependent on luck, we don't mean that people don't make self-effort but then success is not 100% dependent on the effort. For instance, people will tell you that to win in sports betting you must follow H2H records but then I have experience cases where a team is always beating a particular team but the day you add it to your ticket, they play the reverse. Some say H2H doesn`t matter but current form and I have experienced also where a team on form lose to a weaker team. When you consider these things it becomes clear that gambling is a game of luck.

Now, the issue of getting rich from gambling and going broke is an individual thing. It is not peculiar to all gamblers. I have seen a gambler set up good businesses from his winnings. I have also seen people who won big and currently have nothing. I will always say that everyone is not the same and so when they win they utilize it in different ways. I have also seen a gambler who established a business through gambling but the business was ruined by his younger brother. Are we also going to attribute this to gambling? I want to win big to have an experience of what it feels like to win big.

I think that the message that your friend sent to the group is a figure of speech, an irony, meaning the opposite of the message that he sent, because it's the opposite of everything he said that makes sense. He probably wants the other students in the group to use their thinking faculty to code that he actually meant the opposite, if it's not a joke, then the guy must have intentions to mislead gullible students in the group. Taking loan to gamble is desperation, which leads to addiction and believing that through gambling can lead you to your generational wealth, is an illusion, because it's one in a million chance to hit that kind of jackpot that can change your life, there's nothing fun about these mindsets.

This is an ordinary call to violate any normal money management strategies. It is better not to respond to such calls, and in no case take out gambling loans. And even more so, do not borrow money from friends for this. Because in addition to financial risks, any player also risks deceiving the trust of his family. And this is the worst thing, any trust is very difficult to restore. It is much more difficult than just paying back the debt with money.

the thing about sending a particular information for public consumption is that regardless of your motive behind the information, it can meet the next person in a bad state of mind and course him to accept the information or apply it in a negative way.

Any statement that has the potential of coursing someone to become addicted to an habit is one that shouldn't be encouraged at all and although the person that posted that actually dropped it just to have fun and cruise with us, it felt as if some persons might be misinformed in the process and might take it as a positive advice.

Of course, absolutely no one or any gambler can know the algorithm or math that the casino applies to the gambling system, you will not know anything about this because you are nothing more than a player, and it would be unreasonable for the casino to tell the algorithm or the secret to winning bets to anyone because it could obviously have a bad impact on their business in the sense that it could make the casino bankrupt. After all gambling is a business created by croupiers who hide behind "winning opportunities", as we know that most gambling always ends in losing, or what I mean is that in gambling losing will dominate more than winning which will only happen occasionally when you are lucky, and this is where casinos take a lot of profit from gamblers who can't stop, or from those who are already addicted who are always chasing victory when what happens is that they lose more. So the bottom line in my opinion is that when you gamble excessively then it's the same as giving money away to the casino.

Obviously, when a person has gambled to an extent of going to take a loan, then the gambler has actually shifted from gambling responsibly. And just as you said, there is a thin line between the gambler and addiction if not already addicted, This situation is just like someone who met me recently that he is on the process of taking a loan to start trading, a novice trader for that matter, I immediately told him that it is a wrong way to begin with.

A person who cannot digest true or false information is a fool, we all know that anything about gambling is definitely bad and even in the picture you provided it is clear that it is just some kind of joke which means doing the opposite. Indeed someone is in a bad condition even those who are addicted cannot think clearly and it could be said that their minds have been controlled by gambling so they digest these opinions as a kind of motivation for them to continue gambling.

Yes, statements like that are very sensitive for some people because not everyone can accept positive or negative types of statements. Maybe some people understand that these statements are wrong and think of them as a joke because they know that borrowing money to continue gambling is something that is not acceptable. recommend it because it is a big risk, but there are also those who accept this statement, making them addicted to gambling, therefore be careful if you want to say something when it comes to gambling.

Isn't it true that the many problems that have occurred are proof that almost the majority of gamblers forget or are negligent about the increased risks involved, they will pursue what they have targeted without any more careful consideration.
Indeed, the impact is an increase in the number of bets and money that must be lost and in the end borrowing money becomes the last option for them to achieve the results they have targeted.
This is mistake in the mindset of every gambler and this is also what causes many cases where gamblers always experience difficult problems, whether it is addiction problems, losing money completely and also the problem of piling up debts.
When everything happens, gambler will have new problem, namely psychological problem because they cannot accept and resolve what they are experiencing.

After all, if they just aim to have fun then they won't do stupid things that harm themselves and I sure they will still be in safe condition.
But unfortunately what actually happens is not what we think, most gamblers are too careless and more often make mistakes that cause serious problems.
They cannot set limits and also have the right goals when gambling and this is reality that happens very often, I not surprised, especially since it is always a gambler who experiences problems at any time.

Just take a look at the statement again, it's shows that they literally don't care about you, wether you are addicted or not, because that write up alone shows that they are ready to push you to addiction as long as it fills their pockets.
 
To tell you the truth, no body in his or her right sense with take a loan for gambling purpose, because it's only addictive people that do that, so when someone cannot do without gambling on the weekends, that is addiction, because addiction makes you feel as if you can't do without it.

This image is funny if it is a joke but if not it is funnier because everyone including individuals who have just started gambling, knows the effects of constant gambling and that they shouldn't gamble with borrowed money. Of course, there may be people who despite knowing this become addicted to gambling and continue to gamble with all the money they can find (including debt). I think this image was prepared for fun and was used to make fun of someone because the content literally shows that it was prepared to make fun of someone. On the other hand, it may also motivate people who are addicted to gambling in a malicious way to gamble more or encourage new gamblers to gamble constantly. It is very difficult to guess but it is quite easy to claim that there is no single logical sentence.may be a factor that increases these possibilities but in the same way, under-the-stairs businesses in any different sector will also increase these odds.

Obviously is an addiction because there is no way somebody will keep getting loans from people all because of gambling that even when you lose you should keep borrowing to gamble, that sounds irresponsible because in as much  as everyone's goal is to make winings all the time through there gambling but that shouldn't give them the mindset of seeing gambling as generational wealth because that's a very wrong concept and however if making a win in gambling is not certain how would someone sees it as generational wealth.

Perhaps this is one of the reasons why so many persons are becoming a victim of gambling all the time because of there narrative they have about gambling, because so many persons believe that there is every possibility of them making it in life through gambling that's why when they gamble they aim higher by staking a huge about of money in other for them to win big and in most cases they end up losing everything, so perhaps from the message on the picture is obvious that the person doesn't no anything about gambling because if he does he would have understood the risk of having that narrative on gambling.

Yes, gamblers who experience many problems forget about the increasing risks they face when gambling. They are too fascinated by gambling and thirsty for victory that they forget about self-control and other important things that they need while they are gambling. And for those who borrow money to gamble, it will only make the problem bigger because they won't be able to pay back the borrowed money shortly, and they will only be chased by the person who gave the loan. They don't realize that borrowing money to use for gambling is not a good idea because when they lose, they will have difficulty paying back their debt. They also don't have any money anymore, so they really have to find a way to pay off their debt. And if they still try to seek debt from other people, it will only make the problem even bigger, which is a fatal mistake.

Those who gamble for fun will not want to do such reckless things because they will think about how to pay back their debts. Those who want to have fun gambling will prefer to use enough money to gamble, and when they have had enough of gambling, they will immediately stop gambling and leave the casino. They don't want to continue gambling because that means they have to deposit more money, which will only increase their losses even more. They can still be wise in gambling and always try to follow their limits because they have seen what happens to people who gamble excessively, so they don't want that to happen to them too. When playing gambling, they are always careful in using their money because that means they always try to prevent their losses from getting bigger.

Forced to gamble every weekend? That's messed up. No one should feel pressured to do something that clearly isn't fun for them, especially if it puts them in financial trouble. Imagine having to bet your lunch money every Friday – not cool!

But what if it's just a casual thing with friends, no pressure, all chill? Well, that's a different story. As long as everyone's doing it for fun, with limits set and wallets safe, it can be a way to unwind and hang out. Think friendly board game night, but with slightly higher stakes.

The key is being responsible. Just like you wouldn't pour all your savings into a single spin on a roulette wheel, don't let the excitement cloud your judgment. Gambling can be fun, but it's important to remember it's not a get-rich-quick scheme. Think of it like adding a spicy kick to your social life, not a main course.

As long as they don’t take this motivational quote literally then everything is fine. Gambling can be a bonding activity among friends. Making a few friendly bets in a group chat is something normal that a lot of people do and they don’t necessarily view it as gambling because you don’t risk anything significant. If it’s an activity you are doing outside of group chats then it is your responsibility to not let it become a harmful habit. It might feel compulsory but if your friends are reasonable people they will understand if you need to take a break for a while.

When you are gambling, and you are looking for money, then you are already addicted to gambling, or should I say you are about to be addicted to gambling, when you make it compulsory for yourself to gamble, you are also addicted to gambling, because I see gambling as what you should do whenever you are free, and not what you should make mandatory that you have to do it. So it’s just better you give your friend advice about his gambling activities, so that he won’t end up regretting when it’s already late.

Pictures like this shouldn’t be taken as a play, most people that are really desperate to make money from gambling will take this picture very serious, so pictures like this are just encouraging addiction in gambling, and it should be avoided, this is a way in which addicted gamblers are encouraging themselves, when you visit a gambling shop in my country, you are going to see gamblers motivating themselves like that.

As a gambler, if you notice you're beginning to take loan for gambling, you have to stop gambling instantly before the addiction gets too far. You're already addicted when you take a loan but you can still do something about it if it's your first loan that you're taking. Gambling shouldn't be a do or die affair, it should be something we do for entertainment. We don't have to gamble every weekend or we're increasing the chance of getting addicted and going broke.

Gambling every weekend is addiction, gambling when you don't feel like gambling but you have to do it so that you can win some money to use for your expenses is addiction. Gamble should be done as a fun activity and only to be done when you feel like having fun so you can stop whenever you want to stop. If you're gambling for money you can't stop whenever you want to stop as you need to make money.

If people could ignore it, they would not feel hopeless, would look for other avenues, and would not use gambling to make money. They know that gambling is just for fun and not a place to make money. They will also realize that if they play more often than before, let alone use too much money, they will experience a lot of losses and will not be able to recover their losses. And yes, that is what people will do to return to gambling because they think they are just a little away from getting their big win, even though it won't happen as easily as they imagine. They have to really see and realize that gambling is not a place to make money but just to have fun in their free time.

I wouldn't blame the person asking others to take a loan for gambling or even just suggesting it, but I would blame the person who does it instead of thinking critically about it. When you grow up and become an adult, it becomes your responsibility to know what is good and what is bad for you and you shouldn't let anyone easily influence you to do certain things when those things are not good for you.

If I know that a person is asking me to do something that might sound good but it can have negative consequences in my life in the future, I wouldn't do it because I'm mature enough to understand what is good and what is bad for me and I wouldn't get influenced just by words or even actions if they are based on luck.

I agree - blaming the advisor is wrong. Adulthood is tested by decisions, notably financial ones like gambling debts. I think it tests maturity and foresight.

I like gambling, but responsibly. It may be fascinating when done carefully and within budget. Self-awareness and understanding the fine line between a fun flutter and a dangerous debt spiral are crucial.

I support having fun with gambling without loans. Its about enjoying tiny, controlled gambles; danger is part of the fun, not a path to financial ruin. Lets encourage vibrant alternatives without compromising our future.

If they have that certain control from their emotions then it's really okay for them to gamble as they will not resort to gambling as source of finances but instead a venue that they can find enjoyment, there are people who are engaging to gambling with high aim to win big, thinking that with that mentality they will manage to win and can continue taking money out from the gambling house.

Just like what you said, gambling for fun and not to exceed will keep you away from getting addicted, gambling irresponsibly though will bring you to a big trouble and it will lead you to addiction.

It all matters with someones self control on which you wont really be putting up yourself on such great trouble if you are really just that mindful or careful within your actions.
Its not bad to make some betting with other people. Basing up on the situation or condition on OP that has been mentioned on which this isnt really totally sign of addiction but rather
it is really just that for the sake of fun specially you do know that the ones you are betting with or against with is with your co-workers on which it would be finding entertaining
and enjoyable on making bets with or together with them.

So if you dont really compromise out your salary on the way you do bet, then i would say that it is really just that completely fine. There are really just those
individuals who do end up miserable specially into their finances specially on the time that they do give out focus and importance the way they do spend on
gambling on which its a bad idea.

Gambling can very well be a bonding activity amongst friends. But the kind of friends could determine how safe you’ll indulge in the activity. People could take the motivational quote literally. They can even take it and use it to motivate themselves, cheering themselves in whenever they incur losses. And the type of friends you gamble with would either help pull you out of that notion or swim with you in the sea of misery that would lead to addiction.

The motivational quote may really seem harmless as people wouldn’t really go on and follow such an advice, right? Wrong. People would motivate themselves and justify their actions with just about anything.

As you can see, they certainly have that control over emotion, so this is certainly fun as far as I am concerned. No big money was involved and they were doing it on their own and with a light mood. I do not see anything so serious here. Gambling is meant to be more committed in nature, it is such money that would be frowned upon, and also with strict set rules as we see on gambling platforms. It is either you lose or you win, and has nothing to do with the familiarity in their case. Also, in theirs, emotion will certainly not be present, they will do it and just be having fun, but this is not like that in reality where serious gambling is to be actualised. Theirs might not be tempting at the same time because they would have their limits and budget in such settings, but this is not so in the practical setting, which makes what they are doing to be mere fun and they can enjoy it while it lasts. But I pity any of them going to real gambling with that same mindset, it will be so ill and will be the opposite experience, to say the least.

Hopefully whoever posted that was kidding.

I take a cautious approach to gambling, in more reasonable  ways.
Provably fair lotteries , heavy rig rentals pointed to new and emerging pools, I have to see the odds, if it's a gamble on provably fair I usually hope for luck to be the least involved metric.  (But it can't be ignored)
It's never a sure thing but that's how I go about it.

Gambling isnt really that totally a problem as long you do make yourself that responsible on which this is a must thing that should really be done on the time that you do gamble. People would really be just simply messing up their lives on the time that they would really be going into those beyond your limitations. It is really just that depending on someones control on how they would really be able to interact with that.
The main issue on here is that not all people would really be having that kind of discipline when it comes to gambling thing or activity on which instead that they would really be doing things in moderation
but rather they do become that impulsive.

Gambling should really be that for fun and not something that you would really be thinking up well on how you would really be making some money because once you do find yourself
that being desperate on how you would be making yourself getting rich then this is where desperatation would be kicking in and this would really be that in result
into those devastation on which this is something that we dont really like to happen.

It is VERY difficult to say whether it is an addiction or not, because it is not clear whether the person wrote this seriously, out of emotion or being balanced. Maybe this is a form of humor or sarcasm
But if he wrote this completely seriously, then I cannot definitely say that he has problems with addiction, but I don’t like it. I mean this person may have problems with attachment to the game

I think this is nothing but a meme that pokes fun at how you guys have been at this gig for years now with little to no end in sight. Plus I personally wouldn't be this stoked even if I'm addicted to gambling for cellphone load, unless that thing's crazy expensive from where you guys live.In any case, as someone well-versed in the meme culture of gambling addiction memes I say this is nothing but sarcasm. He's most definitely seeing the hilarity in the setup you guys have and is either sending this to give you guys a little slap in the face to inform you you've been going at it for a while now and perhaps it's due time you guys stop this gig, or he could just be outright trolling to stir the pot and perhaps make you guys think he means this even though he's probably one of the first people to realize he's becoming addicted and perhaps should stop. I don't know though. I'm really just spitballing here.

Even if this was just a joke, due to the context in which this happen in which the members of that group have made bets for 2 years in a row, it seems safe to me to speculate that some of them may have some problems, as betting for so long when combined with that kind of message may seem to indicate that they are not planning to stop, and unless a person is very wealthy, betting for that amount of time is bound to get them in trouble.

Whether you do like it or not then its none of ours business if someone would really be attached into these kind of betting on which we do know that this is something that will vary into each person on which
we do know that there are ones who are really that get interested on making bets with their friends and not necessarily that they will be betting some real money on which we do know that you could be also be able to bet
like treating a dinner or snacks or whatsoever that it could be possibly be applied. This is why it would really be just that normal that there would really be some sort of behavior on making bets in between
co or fellow workers such as this. I dont see any form of addiction even if its done on day to day basis.

As long you wont really be making  yourself that spending too much money with those bets then it should really be just that fine and since its really just that for the sake of fun
then it would really be that just fine for you to get engaged with. So its none of our business on what they would really be gonna doing with their lives. :)

Most gamblers have no control over their emotions and will become increasingly emotional when they experience loss after loss. This will not make them try to stop their gambling activities but make them increasingly try to recover their losses. They will still see gambling as a place to make money, even though that is the wrong idea. If they are willing to learn from the mistakes they have made, they will not want to repeat them and will try to limit their gambling activities.

Getting a big win can happen to you but we don't know when we will get that big win. We should not chase victory because it will not happen easily. We should always be able to limit our gambling activities so that we will experience serious problems that we cannot afford. Playing gambling for fun is enough for us because we only use gambling in our free time and don't make gambling a routine that we always have to do. It will keep us out of trouble and allow us to enjoy gambling as it should be.

Gambling is a form of entertainment people want to add some spice to the game reason to have wages, and if you are a responsible gambler you know your limits even if there's a friend with you sometimes having those friends who keep pushing you and get bad influence to lose more money, not all friends are there's to enjoy sometimes you just need to know who is you real friends are. Those suggestions and opinions came from the person might lead you in a wrong direction. Listen to people carefully who you trust with. Not all friends are there when you don't have any.

That's true, if you can still control yourself well then gambling will not have serious negative impacts, and many people become addicted to the point of experiencing big losses because they lack self-control so they gamble excessively or exceed their limits. and with the belief that they can get a big win, they will continue to gamble even if the gambling they do only ends in defeat and becomes an impulsive act.

gambling is not to make money, that is not the main purpose of gambling, because as you said, gambling must really be for entertainment, and I always emphasize that people who gamble must be able to accept the money they lose in gambling because they lose in gambling. it can't be avoided either. except that avoiding big losses can be done by having good self-control, but it is very rare for people to have good self-control when gambling, many of them gamble without self-control, causing big losses, then no It's strange that many people experience big losses by gambling because it is each individual's fault.

"Gamble responsibly" is like "eat cake in moderation" at a birthday celebration. Theory is simple, practice is hard. Human nature craves excitement and adventure. Unfortunately, not everyone has a self-control switch. This is about addressing the music, not criticizing gambling or its fans. Gambling entertainment? Unmatched. Risk of spiraling? High. The difference between a harmless flutter and a deep dive is thin. Financial smart is making money and not losing it on a whim.

What about accepting losses? Lets not forget that many find that loss tougher to accept than imagined. Good self-control and a society that views gambling as amusement with dangers are the solutions. Learn, prepare, and enjoy, but never at the expense of economic security. Remember, the house always wins, so play smart and cautious.

It's true that all friends are not the same. No matter how good a friend is in a gambling place motivational quotes work less. Here everyone tries to win for themselves. In good times everyone is by your side and in bad times no friends can be found. If it becomes an addiction you have to pay for your own mistakes. May unique awesomeness and positive energy inspire confidence in others. Wherever you go whatever the weather always bring your own sunshine if you want light in life then you have to play for fun and learn to control emotions.

We cant make out those generalizations since there are really those friends that could really be found on the time that you are on such tough problem and there are ones who do leave you behind.
This is the time that you could really be able to make those differentiations in speaking about those type of friends.Going back into the topic about playing or making betting in between friends or
co-workers then i dont see any problems into this one on which it would really be just that as long you are really just that doing it for fun and not spending too much money came from your own
salary then this is a form of entertainment that you could really be able to enjoy. Everything would really be depending on moderation as always.

Exactly, this is very easy to say but difficult to implement. and also not everyone has good self-control so they gamble excessively. thinking about how to gamble without losing large amounts of money is something that must be done, but in reality gambling can make everyone lulled, so it is not strange if there are gamblers who take out loans to gamble when their own capital has run out. I also think that gambling can make someone addicted.

Well, that's the problem, actually, if we can accept defeat well, maybe bad things won't happen, but no, in reality, many people can't accept defeat. That's what you have to do, learn to accept reality, prepare for losses that will occur, and enjoy the gambling you do, win or lose, just enjoy it and accept it, because it has become something that is certain to happen in gambling, even though losses will occur more often. It's true what you said, the house will always win, therefore we have to be able to gamble smartly, including using winnings correctly, cashing out winnings is a smart choice.

When the right advice is so well-known and yet there are many people that fail to follow it, this is a clear indication that taking the wrong path is simply too tempting to most people, gambling is really fun, that is undeniable, however the consequences of losing a lot of money are not fun at all, it is because of this many of us despite the enjoyment we may get out of gambling do what we can to avoid becoming addicted to it, as getting over an addiction is incredibly difficult.

You wont really be able to experience those things if you do really just that make yourself that responsible on which this is something that you would really be needing up on the time that you do hover yourself into gambling field. When doing up something like betting with your colleagues or co workers then it isnt really that bad to consider on having those kind of betting on which this doesnt really mean about being addicted to it or something that could compromise your money or budget. It would really be just that depending into someones actions on why they do mess up their lives with gambling. If you do find yourself
having that financial effect or you are out of your budget then it would really be safe to say that you are really that overdoing it and this is something that must be avoided.

The allure of immediate gratification versus the consequences that may follow is a fundamental aspect of human behavior. Gambling can be exhilarating and enjoyable in the moment, but the potential repercussions of addiction and financial loss are severe and long-lasting. Despite our awareness of these risks, many still find themselves drawn to the excitement of gambling. This speaks to the power of temptation and the complexities of human psychology. Our ability to resist these temptations varies greatly from person to person, influenced by factors such as genetics, upbringing, and individual circumstances.

Gamblers should proactively take steps to avoid falling into its grasp. This may involve setting strict limits on gambling activities, seeking support from loved ones or professionals, or even abstaining altogether. It needs to strike a balance between indulging in activities that bring us joy and safeguarding ourselves from harm. By understanding the allure of temptation and actively choosing to resist it, we can navigate towards healthier and more fulfilling paths in life.

A gambler is not addicted in the beginning and he does not dream of more income from it. But when greed works in him, he tries to create opportunities of income from it. During that time a gambler will naturally find it very difficult to control himself. Because they don't want to tell anyone about their gambling. They try to hide it even from close friends. A gambler can get good advice if he shares his good and bad with others. Moreover, a gambler must have his own judgment of good and bad. Gambling influenced by friends or others can never bring good results. If a gambler becomes addicted, he can do anything. So he needs to know how to manage that time.

Is actually addiction for me reason being that the expression is more like something you can not do without and that is where addiction have it's play but when at some point you can decide to go for break is more like fun because you are having a control of your emotions when it comes to gambling, and you will tend to make a better predictions when you are not betting on regular basis than when you are betting regularly because it gives you that opportunity to monitor your club performance before taken a strick.

Yes, I agree with that, but unfortunately most gamblers misunderstand when they first arrive, they misunderstand what gambling really is, especially in terms of winning opportunities, most of them believe too much and  believe too much in what is meant by "opportunities" so that in the end they put high hopes and  expectations to get big wins or even they put hopes and beliefs that gambling can change their financial fortunes for the better, when in fact there is absolutely no certainty in the idea of "opportunities" to actually make it a reality, so this makes it difficult for them to be responsible gamblers.

Yes I understand that gambling is so tantalizing, like it's really nothing more than a temptation, after all the house always has the upper hand or meaning the win is really just for the casino and the casino hides behind the word "odds" as the point that people will be easily tempted to do things that are actually beyond their ability. One of the problems is that because they don't bring caution and suspicion at the beginning of their involvement, they can't identify "what's behind the odds" or "does gambling have risks", because obviously by having the right understanding and  correct as suggested then I think they  will not act carelessly, in the sense that they will prioritize risk  management rather than putting their hopes in a place that  has no certainty.

I think it is just one of the members trying to make a joke in your group chat. Because, like you said, you guys are having fun and talking about gambling, so I think one of the members wants to make a joke. Looking at it, it really looks like a joke, but if you want to take it seriously, then you should be ready for the consequences that will happen to you if you do it. But seriously, don't take a loan and then gamble with the money you just borrowed. Life will hit you so hard if you lose the money you borrowed just because you gambled and took the risk of doubling it. Taking a risk is fine, but do it with caution and proper thinking.

If the one who sent that is serious about that, then maybe he is really addicted to gambling and has experience loaning some money and trying to gamble on it. Don't be like that, and be a responsible gambler.

A human thing? We're born to dream and believe in the impossible. However, gambling is about deception, not simply dreams. Casino gamblers come with hopes and dreams, but they need a reality check. They speak of opportunity, but they ignore logic. This is about probability, not possibility. Probabilities? They're never good for them. Understand human nature, not simply the odds. We all want a quick fix, financial success. But betting? Fast track to ruin

They should question, confront, and think. What's at stake? Gambling leads to hopelessness and ruined dreams, not prosperity. Better off if they discover that soon. It's logic, not luck. The house always wins, reasoning dictates

Yes this does seem like an addiction to me, I mean you said  it went like that for 2 years Straight.
Gambling is fun we can't lie about that fact, but it is important for a gambler to know when to stop, or else it will turn into an addiction that would only cause a person to lose all of his money and go broke. We saw some Gambling addiction levels that even push the gamblers to loan money or ask people to lend him some in order to gamble more.
That message is so disturbing, I hope it is just a joke because if it's not then the person who sent it is trying to play with people's minds influencing them to keep Gambling non-stop and that even if it cuts you can take a loan?
A good Gambler should have a strong personality and a wise mindset where he can learn to control himself and know when to stop and when to not.

Yes. It can be just a joke, humor, or sarcasm.
I think there is no gambler who will be very seriously to gamble without a retire. Sometimes, we may stop gambling temporarily because of some reasons. We may feel playing gambling too often, or we may start to forget our real life activities.

He may have a problem with addiction because he want to keep gambling by taking a loan if there is no money on the pocket anymore. This is a very clear that one of the signs of addiction, people can' stop gambling and use any source of money for gambling.

Or the person still don't understand the nature of gambling. So he makes it the same as we are struggling to reach a dream in our career.  ;D

The misinterpretation of probabilities and the allure of unrealistic expectations is a critical issue within the realm of gambling. Many people entering the world of gambling may indeed have misconceptions about the true nature of winning opportunities and the likelihood of financial success. The concept of "opportunities" in gambling can be misleading, because it often implies a chance for significant gains without adequately acknowledging the inherent risks involved. This can lead to inflated hopes and expectations, as well as a disregard for responsible gambling practices.

While some may experience occasional wins, the long-term outcomes are often characterized by losses, particularly for those who approach gambling with unrealistic expectations. People have to make informed decisions and avoid falling into patterns of compulsive or problematic gambling. They need to foster responsible gambling practices that can develop a more balanced and realistic understanding of the gambling experience. It can reduce the potential for harm and increase healthier attitudes towards gambling.

Of course, this is very dangerous when it comes to an uncontrolled fascination with credits. It is also a major sign that the player is not doing well and should be weaned from the casino as soon as possible. Impulsiveness is one of the signs of gambling addiction. If a player cannot be responsible for his actions, it will not lead to anything good for him and his loved ones

To add to what you have noted, people often misunderstand the concept of opportunities in gambling due to a variety of factors, including cognitive biases, misperceptions about probability and randomness, and the influence of emotions. Many people mistakenly believe that they can predict or control the outcomes of gambling activities. This is known as the “illusion of control” bias, where individuals overestimate their ability to influence events that are determined by chance. This bias can lead people to perceive opportunities for winning where none exist or to chase losses based on the belief that they can turn their luck around.

Also, people often fail to grasp the concept of independent trials, where each gamble is an isolated event unrelated to previous or future events. As a result, they may see patterns or trends where there are none and make decisions based on these false perceptions. For instance, if a person wins a few rounds in a row at a slot machine, they might think that they have found a “hot” machine and continue playing, not realizing that each spin is an independent event with the same probabilities.

The answer is, it is very wrong if you put or bring hopes or expectations or dreams to a place that basically has absolutely no certainty to actually realize the dream, because gambling or casinos only provide "possibilities" and not "certainties" for anyone involved, and that means that the possibility of losing can never be completely avoided when you run a session. We cannot or should not be someone who is too "prejudiced" in a place that is actually full of "logic", we must understand well about what is meant by gambling activities where there will always be winning and losing situations, not only for you but all gamblers involved will experience and feel it.

What is a pity is that when a gambler comes without caution and suspicion towards gambling, most of them only see it in terms of profits and have absolutely no suspicion about what is actually behind this gambling activity, and of course this means the point of view and a rational mindset should not be ignored and must be in mind when you encounter new things that look tempting, the fact is that there are no free meals, life is hard and casinos will not be so stupid as to give free winnings to gamblers and This means that there is a certain purpose for the casino behind the gambling activities provided.

Overall we are doing a terrible job at this, by just taking a look around me I can see that more than ever people care about getting their gratification as soon as they can regardless of the consequences, and when we live in a culture that embraces that train of thought, it is almost impossible to fight it, since these days a lot of people are addicted to something even if they do not want to admit, after all it is difficult to look at some of my family members, friends or peers and not think they are addicted to their smartphones, video games or social media.

I agree with you. Gambling is something that only provides possibilities, not certainty. Some people may experience large losses and other problems due to excessive gambling, perhaps they are not aware of this so they can gamble excessively which ultimately harms them. Of course, the fact that defeat is certain to occur in gambling cannot be avoided, unless it is possible to avoid the loss by minimizing it, such as by carrying out reasonable gambling or having certain limits set so as not to spend too much money on gambling. It is true that most people who gamble only think about profitable wins, they tend not to think about the risks which are clearly bound to occur.

 In my opinion, the aim of casinos is clear, by holding gambling games they are looking for profits from the many people who gamble because of course to gamble they have to spend a certain amount of money to be able to gamble. And that way they design the game so that it is not easy for each player to win, because what they are looking for is profit, while most people assume that gambling can give them a definite win. And also with their tricks that offer bonus advertisements and promotions that make many people tempted and want to try which ultimately makes them addicted.