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I know for sure that if we take periodic account of how many times that we gamble, maybe weekly, monthly or yearly, we'll find out that the loses are far greater than the winnings, so I sometimes wonder how we can be indulging in something that we lose far more than we gain, in the name of having fun. I know that it's human nature to want to conquer, defeat, control and be the leader, yet we go into gambling knowing that the system doesn't give us a fair advantage of achieving these aims, yet we're happy to go back and likely be defeated again.

Perhaps deep down in our conscience, somewhere that we don't like to listen to, it still tells us the truth that the reason why we're going to gamble is to hopefully win money, not really to have fun.

I know that it's said that you should gamble the amount that you can afford to loose, but will you call it a true fun when you know that there's a higher probability of losing your bet?

It's only a lie if we aren't having fun when we are gambling.

You can think of other meaning, but if gambling is not for fun, what it is?
Maybe everyone have different interpretation on what they are doing when they gamble, but for me, it's all about fun and I don't intend to change even in the long run. I believe, even those who are gambling for money, or those who are making a living in gambling, they are still considering gmabling for fun as that's what they love to do, they are just lucky that they make money and have fun at the same time, since most of us doesn't experience that.

When I was addicted, I was thinking I could make money from gamble. Later I knew my thinking was foolishness as I continued to lose more and more than winning. We should just take it or leave it, gambling should be just for fun.

It is just like I go to bear parlor to drink and have fun and I spend money. If I gamble and lose and I have the fun, it is better because I use the amount of money that I can afford to lose to gamble.

When people pay money to go and watch a movie in the cinema, they are simply going to have some fun. The same amount can still be spent on gambling just because of fun. But I prefer gambling to paying just to watch movies. In gambling one might be lucky to win but in other forms of entertainment, you are just entertained with no benefits. I don't think it is proper to assume that people are lying when they say they are gambling for fun. As a gambler, I always expect profit from my stakes but if that is not the case, I still derive satisfaction because I am entertained. Any gambler who is attracted to gambling solely to make a profit might end up suffering from gambling disorder.

If you treat playing as a form of leisure and not gambling a serious amount of money or anything beyond your limit then it could still be fun regardless of the accumulated net losses over the week or month. You don't really count the amount you spend on movies or night outs and say "I'm losing" do you?

I know that fact that our chances of losing are way higher than winning but I cannot still seem to stop playing because I really enjoy the roller coaster ride in emotion that is being given by gambling. And I think that's most of the gamblers' reason why they cannot stop gambling too. I mean, where can we find that kind of adrenaline that is being given by gambling? I doubt there are other choices.
The truth about people putting money on the line is the main reason why one thing or event gets more exciting. It boosts the entertainment factor of a game whether it's a sport or a casino game. It doesn't matter, as long as we know that it is our money, hard-earned money that will be risked.
Today, I have been playing for 4 hours of Keno and changing numbers that I pick most of the time and I can say I am having fun doing that especially when I hit a multiwin. I am trying to win against the house and I think that's also one of the reasons why we continue gambling. It's not easy to defeat them but getting a multiwin gives the idea that we can.

But is it truly fun knowing you're playing a rigged game? Can genuine enjoyment exist when the specter of financial ruin looms large? That's the crux of the conundrum, partner. The thrill of the gamble, the electric anticipation of a potential win, can be undeniably intoxicating. But true entertainment requires a sense of balance, a knowledge that even if the odds aren't in your favor, the experience itself holds some intrinsic value.

That's where the "affordable loss" argument falls short. Sure, you can limit your wagers, minimize the potential damage. But can you truly savor the experience when every bet carries the weight of potential regret, the bitter aftertaste of knowing you've defied logic and embraced a losing proposition?

Perhaps the real "fun" in gambling lies not in the pursuit of riches, but in the experience itself – the shared laughs with friends, the camaraderie around the table, the temporary escape from the mundane. If the focus shifts from chasing wins to relishing the social, the ritualistic, the purely experiential aspects of the game, then maybe, just maybe, a healthier sense of enjoyment can emerge.

People already know that spending a lot of time in casinos and gambling wouldn't do any good, but why some people would still go back? We could say that some people would prefer to have fun and some are aiming to get profits. Let's say for example two people going to an amusement park with different goals, one wants to have fun by trying different kinds of experiences and the other one is just going to work and earn money, of course if its that's the case, working is like tiring and draining, so if you are just aiming to earn money in gambling, then it wouldn't do any good since gambling still based on luck even if you put an effort on having techniques and strategies. Maybe the old gamblers and the newbies have a different mindset at the start, if you are already used to the mechanics for sure you would only focus on winning rather than having fun, and newbies find it exciting as they experience new things.

I'm sure that if you take into account how many times you're mentally stressed, experiencing burnouts from work, having congested mind and looking for how to decongest it and so on, you'll find out that gambling moderately helps you reset your mind from things that clouds it and get ready to either take up more activities or rest peacefully. The reason you gamble is a personal thing, myself gamble to relax my mind and have fun, maybe its not your reason, it still validates the fact that we are different people. Most times I come back from work with a very big headache from over-concentration, and being a bachelor, there's no other thing to do to decongest my mind and I just gamble moderately to shift my mind from the complexities of work and give me peace of mind, so I can rest properly and prepare for the next day. The thing is that most times people are more attached to the negatives of something that it blinds them from visualizing how much that must have helped them live a balanced life. I know I loose a lot from gambling, but compared to the good it does for me when I'm stressed up, I think I'm on the winning side. Peace of mind is so underrated these days and whatever helps me achieve that, is never a loss to me.

Well, sometimes it is, and sometimes it isn't. It's a love-hate relationship. Gambling is an emotional rollercoaster, full of anticipation, anxiety, stress, and joy, along with an adrenaline and dopamine rush that boost your mood. Enjoy the journey, not the destination. Gambling is all about enjoying the moment, especially if you're playing nerve-racking games. Waiting for the outcome is thrilling and gets your blood flowing. That's what we're after; certainly, the chances are often not on our side, and I believe the majority of us acknowledge that it's way more probable to lose money than earn it. I find it extremely hard to imagine someone earning a living through it.

Thus, in my opinion, the best option is to manage well enough that you're able to stay afloat, which means not losing a fortune but not expecting or making a fortune either.

Because humans want challenges and rewards and they find them on gambling platforms, we are naturally gambling in many things that we do in our lives, like setting up businesses, and relationships we all take risks in the hope of getting rewarded although sometimes there are uncertainty in many of our actions once we won in our challenges like in gambling the brain releases dopamine which is a feel-good feeling and this is something that we want every time we gamble, the money is part of our reward system like dopamine.

Some people gamble for the feeling I have seen people throwing away big money and it is nothing to them because they want to boast their ego and that's fun for these people.

I'm being tempted to agree with you that gambling for fun is a lie we tell ourselves to make us feel better in the midst of losses. I don't really condemn the proponents of such since its a strategy for reducing the pain of losing.  But the reality is that no one gamble for fun. The primary reason for gambling is money and more money. Remove the money from gambling and see how many of those championing gambling for fun will still be there.

In order to gamble for fun you need to understand two things:

first, gambling is not a way to earn a stable income. Sure, you could become a millionaire with pure luck but the chances of that happening are almost non-existent. So why bother? Second, the rush you feel during winning or losing are brain chemicals and nothing more. This same rush can be reproduced with smaller amounts of money, so therefore betting big is a fools game.

Once you understand those two facts, you can gamble with tiny amounts of money and still enjoy yourself. Thats what gambling for fun is, and it works for me perfectly.

Yeah, we have different financial standing in life, some are rich, while some are on the middle class. I didn't include the poor as they don't have the right to gamble, at least this is a way to discourage them as in the first place, gambling is fun, so why would they gamble when they are struggling financially, it's not fun anymore and gambling would just give them more burden in life.

It's fun for those who are capable of spending money for gambling, that's the real talk here.

It is not the kind of fun that comes naturally. It is artificial fun, with consequences.

Gamblers will have fun when they are putting money on the bet, when they are deluding themselves into thinking that the bet they are making will make them a positive gain. Gamblers will stop having fun, and in fact face the opposite of fun, once they start to lose and go into the negative. The fun does not just stop here, but negative effects are also added on top.

It is somewhat "margin fun". Increasing the effects of the fun, in the form of adding potential monetary gain to the game, though in turn, adding negative effects to the action itself.

It's not worth it.

No, it's not a lie we're telling ourselves.  Gambling certainly has its thrills and excitement.  The adrenaline rush of risking it all on the spin of a wheel or turn of a card captivates many.  That rush of adrenaline when you've got money on the game and  it's fun! 

But here's the thing.  As much as we try to tell ourselves otherwise, gambling is still gambling.  It ain't investing.  And it sure as heck ain't a way to make a living.  At the end of the day the house always wins.  They don't build those fancy casino sites by giving money away. 

So enjoy it, have your fun, but be smart.  Set a budget and stick to it, no excuses. The second it starts messing with your life - your relationships your work, your finances - its time to walk away. 

I think if you have the money to play and say to yourself that you are going to play and have some fun then that's it. The problem is that there are gamblers who doesn't want to admit that they are losing money already and think that they still being entertained.

So it's either you play with small amount to have some fun and then quit. Or believed that even if you continue to play and losing a lot of money and that you are not addicted then that's where the issues is and you can call it a lie. Most of the time our minds are going to play tricks on us specially this form of entertainment called gambling.

Gambling is fun for the people who can fund their habit on playing any games they want without worrying for their essential needs later when they lose their budget money for playing. But it's a different stories for those who get addicted and play as there is no tomorrow for them because it always ends up in regret once they have no longer the means to play anymore and at the same time to buy their essential needs in their life.

Well, at the first place gambling is born and created solely for fun and entertainment it become the hobbies of the past people as internet is not prominent and there is no other way to entertain theirselves so gambling is one of the main event and games that brought entertainment to them and even now, but in the latter part gambling become subject to something bad or produce misery, but the thing is we people are that one that is tarnishing the image of gambling, yes gambling games is associated with money but that is the business of it but some people take gambling too much to the point that it make them suffer and the one at fault at this is the human itself so nothing to blame but the gamblers that let themselves miserable because of gambling, gambling will still be a subject for fun and entertainment its up to the people if they make it change for themselves.

You don’t know exactly the concept of gambling that’s you are confused like this to the term gamble what you can afford to lose. Gambling is not a source of income because it’s not a job or investment tool. Its purpose is for entertainment purposes only which you can get on the fun when you experience win in the game(not net profit but rather the bets that won). You will never feel the fun if you are counting your losses since most of gambling games has the house edge.

The best way to have fun on gambling is by celebrating when you win and charge the loss as payment to the temporary fun which gambling provides you. That’s why you should not gamble if you are not financially capable of wasting money for entertainment. It’s like drinking beer and smoking cigarettes, you don’t get any benefits on it but people keep doing it due to the inexplainable fun when doing it.

Well, for those who can afford it, gambling is always a fun thing to do, most especially when we have friends who are also actively betting or gambling, and are always ready to share and discuss ideas.

It is important for us to know that, gambling is actually an expensive way of having fun, for those who really gamble for fun by the way, and this means that, I am actually not disputing the fact that there are actually alot of persons gambling today who are doing it for no other reason other than to make money, and what I will say about this is that, it's the wrong way to gamble, or the wrong mindset rather, and this is because, there is actually a very high chance that majority of gamblers will always end up in the red, that is, losing more than they will ever profit, so, seeing gambling as a fun thing to do will help take ones mind off all the loses and potential ones as well.

So, in conclusion, I would say that, to enjoy peace of mind in gambling, it might not make sense, but it's better to always treat gambling as a fun thing rather than a money making adventure, for the potential for loses will always be high, and in other to just enjoy gambling, treat it as what it is, which is a fun venture, rather than a money making venture, and who know, in the process, you might end up winning a life changing amount of money that will make you never be in loss again even if you gamble till the end of your life.

Everyone go into gambling with different motives and there are people who don't care about the money they lose in gambling, because they are making more money from other sources of their investments. There are things you do in life not because of the profitability rather you want to satisfy an inward desire.

My understanding is that gambling is identified with the word 'happy' or 'having fun' as the OP said, in the word fun which is always said by those involved in the world of gambling, to my understanding this is not a lie, it is fact and reality thereby.

In my understanding, pleasure is interpreted or described broadly, especially in the gambling arena.
For example:
Satisfied, at home, happy and comfortable.

This pleasure can be identified as someone feeling at home in the game or satisfied in betting, especially when they experience victory, in other words, pleasure is not only based solely on money, Many of us have money but their lives are not happy, as well as those who don't have money, but they are happy in a happy atmosphere..

   Life it's self is a gamble. Each of us are betting our lives with each and every breath. If we knew the "odds" of failure, injury and disease, most of us would be paralyzed with fear. So we adopt an air of invincibility and soldier on... until the inevitable catches up with us, but by then we have so much "invested" in life, with others depending upon us, that we continue to do the best we can, as long as we can. In the end our fate is the same as all living things on this planet.
     In gambling you know beforehand the maximum you can win or lose, so the outcome is predictable. In life you can never know the outcome because the Law of Unintended Consequences comes into play. Where life and gambling do have parallels is that you can measure your skill against those you are competing with. If you put your skills against a field of those less skilled, then you raise your chances. If you can raise your chances, then luck is more likely to favour you. Many people gamble as a fun past time, but for many others gambling can become a serious problem. It can sometimes feel like the urge to gamble is completely out of their control. Many people find themselves unable to explain why they continue to gamble despite the problems it causes in their everyday lives. You may be tempted to say ‘for the money’, perhaps for that ‘big win’, but this rarely the whole truth. When the gambler wins, more often than not they spend their winnings on gambling more, and keep going until they have nothing left. This can leave them feeling trapped, like there is no way out of the cycle.

Gambling is a fun to me because i have amount of money I use to gamble daily even though there is a win or lose in the bet but it use to give me joy by making me to be more focus on sports games which, is the strategy I use to determine the team that will win the game to make my prediction to come through. Those that made gambling an investment are the ones deceiving themselves by telling people gambling is a fun but they are loosing money and property to gambling daily, weekly and monthly because, they think they can win big money from their gambling by continue betting to recover the ones they have loss.

Any gamblers that can control his or her self not to be addicted to gambling, He or she is gamble just for a fun because such person is gaining  something from the gambling despite he or she is not winning but the gambling is giving such person joy.

The fun we derive from gambling is insufficient to compare to the sadness we experience when we lose our money. If you play and hope to win, you will be disappointed, how can that be considered fun? If you play and use money you can afford to lose, you will still feel the need to use more money to gamble later, you will still have something you intended to use the money for. However, there is a certain feeling that comes with gambling that makes you want to play more, if you are not lucky enough to win, you will lose everything. If gambling is meant to be having fun, then some people won't find it difficult to stop having the fun.

It starts out as entertainment and a fun time, but it usually ends up not being very fun. If you play for a long time, each bet is like a falling drop that wears away a stone. In the end, the drop will split the stone, so here too, the player will ultimately lose his deposit. I'm not saying that this will happen to everyone, but to most players.

For me this is not a lie, because I bet very rarely and not for a very large amount that will not affect my deposit. At the same time, I will experience additional excitement in the game I am watching. And I don’t wait for the match to end as soon as possible to find out the result, but I will be surprised and enjoy every moment of the game. But this is how I do it. Of course, there are those who will deceive themselves and justify their big losses, and they will always find a reason for this. Over time, he will come to what he was going for; time cannot be fooled.

Life can be a bit tedious sometimes and people find activities to escape the everyday routine. Some party hard on weekends, go bungee jumping, have risky sexual relationships, etc. while others can bear the boredom not needing any of these things.

We could add gambling to the list of activities that can make one evade from his daily typical worries, so I understand when people admit that they do it just for fun. Those who know the basis of gambling are aware that it is not a good source of income because odds are against the gambler, but many people still enjoy the ride.

I think this is on the basis of different thoughts of pleasure, maybe those who always gamble even though they lose but still return to gambling could be that their pleasure is in gambling, they find their pleasure in gambling, especially with physical casinos, because in physical casinos in my opinion they are not only for gambling but can make friends or to socialize with many people. and in my opinion everyone certainly wants to get a big win because it is impossible for anyone not to want to get a big win, but gambling has two different perspectives, where there are those who gamble by prioritizing gambling, they can find friends or to socialize with many people.
And in my opinion, everyone certainly wants a big win that can be obtained because it is impossible for anyone not to want to get a large amount of winnings, but this gambling has two different points of view, where there are those who gamble by prioritizing having to get a win and usually people like this tend to spend a lot of money and can be called gambling addicts, because people like this tend to experience changes in their attitudes and behavior, but in contrast to people who gamble to seek pleasure, maybe their goal is not to get a win, but to seek pleasure, where each round gives a certain sensation. so I think it all depends on the person too. So in my opinion, it all depends on the person who responds to gambling and what their motives for gambling are.

Absolutely yes, also with the phrase "gamble only an amount you can afford losing". No one really wants to lose simply because it is money which is involved; something necessary to make a living. Gambling is entertaining indeed, but what gives weight into it is the involvement of money, obviously. You can play any game alike with those which is being offered by both landbase and online casino in playstore and other application providers. However, why are we not sticking into it? Simply because we won't gain anything from it. Gambling is a different form of entertainment, no doubt.
Thrill is also a component of the word "fun". We may engage to things or activities which has thrill or danger, but we enjoy it still. Risk taking is a feature of every human wherein we tend to test our chances of something. What makes gambling addictive is the combination of this thrilling experience and gaining something in return after taking the risk. So basically, it is not only being fun which makes us stick into this activity or industry in general. Money and its involvement also plays a huge key role if we will assess why people are hooked with gambling.

1. Your mistake is that you only count the amount of money spent, but in the process of gambling we get entertainment/adrenaline. These things are also worth something if people are willing to pay for them.

2. If you want to compete, win, control and "get what you deserve for your hard work", then you should go into competitive fields like sports, business, career, etc. What does gambling have to do with it? When you come to the library, you’re not indignant that this is not a factory but a warehouse of books? So why do you expect properties from gambling that are not inherent to it?

3. That's part of the fun: the chance to win big tickles your nerves and makes the process more interesting. Plus, people are happy to pay simply for the fact that they will have at least a theoretical opportunity to win big money. We can say that this is a payment for the fact that your dream will be a little more real.

4. Yes. What contradiction do you see here? People spend money on various moronic hobbies without any return, or on hiking in the mountains, etc. People spend money in different ways, this is nothing surprising/new.

We consider gambling as a fun activity since it's not really our focus in life. In real life, we have our jobs or business to prioritize, but sometimes we feel like we want to relax, maybe do the things you've mentioned but all them require money, you are already burning money when you do those things, unlike with gambling than there's a chance to win while you are enjoying the game.

For me, as a full time businessman, I consider gambling as my second hobby since I'm not type of guy who goes out a lot, I am so focus with my job which is online, so it's very convinient on my part to gamble since it's also done online.

Yes, it is from these differences in views that a person will determine his choice, whether he gambles just for fun or maybe he has too high hopes that gambling can make money. it depends on each individual.
Yes, in gambling, the desire to win is the main factor and this encourages a person to always want to gamble even though from the start it is just curiosity but over time it will become a habit or addiction if the person does not have proper self-control from the start.

Well, we could agree that when gambling is someone's focus in life, it is too late to take precautions because that's already a problem except from a few exceptions of people who make a living out of it.

In your case, I relate to you when you sat that you find it convenient to gamble because you don't have to go out or talk with anyone to do it, so if it is a little escape from the demands of your job, I find it reasonable: you evade from the actual moment no matter if you win or lose the bet, and it seems that this is exactly what you look for, so we could say that your case is paradigmatic.

It is true that some people lie to themselves saying that they gamble just for fun, but others don't.

Sometimes, weekly reports show significant gains, but other times, they reveal losses. It doesn't always indicate a loss for the weekly or monthly report. So, the fun part is right there. We're spending money to bet on our luck. It's like a hobby where we spend money, and even others might not care about our hobby. The joy comes from within, and not everyone possesses it.

If you find this a bit odd, you might not be a gambler. You wouldn't understand why people scream while watching a soccer match. There's a thrilling adrenaline rush there, especially when betting on the underdog team.

The only one person we cannot decieves is ourselves, right before we started gambling, there must have been that one thing that has been the major reason why we are concluding on developing our interest on gambling, this may be either for fun or we see it as an advantage of making money in it, this will also determine what we will feel about while gambling and we discovered that we win or loose, some can be loosing and yet be always happy because they are not after making money but the fun in it.

I'm ok it with there's always a price to pay for everything, you watch a boxing match and you pay for a ticket you go for a roller coaster ride you pay for a ride in exchange for enjoyment, no casino platform will tell you to play to make money, they want you to play to enjoy and its just luck that you make money, that's the lure of gambling, you enjoy while having a chance to make money.
Although some people are out there to challenge the casino to make money, we cannot blame them it's their mindset, but they know that they also enjoy the game even though they lose and they will enjoy it even more if they win.

i don't think that i'm lying to myself by saying that i gamble for fun, because from the start i didn't play with the intention of getting money, it was just to fill my free time and get entertainment from slots and that's all. after all, the money i used was money that i should have smoked, because now i have started smoking less so i allocated the money for gambling and i'm okay with that, no regrets or anything.

Money management is key and personally I still have fun in gambling even though I play with small amounts. So even if I would win a x50 or higher, it will still be a relative low amount and I don't care. I always like to place a bet on sport matches and even with a low bet, you follow the match more closely as you are more involved in it, which is something I really like.

Well, of course. It can't be otherwise. The way the gambling industry works is that in order for casinos to make a profit, the loss rate must exceed the winning rate.

No, not because of this. It is not the pursuit of pleasure that drives you, but greed.

Is it possible to call actions reasonable when, knowing that the chances of winning are practically zero, you still allow yourself to be drawn into this game?

This is very easy to prove. If you claim that you are playing for fun, then play casino emulators without real money bets and enjoy.

Why play a game that already sets you up to lose from the start?

I would call this true stupidity. There is not a high probability of losing here, but the highest probability.

In my opinion, any educated gambler understands that the probability of losing is higher than winning, but that is not the point of gambling. Playing gambling gives you hope that you can win a large sum. This is about the same state of mind when you have enough free money to buy yourself a car, an apartment or something else you dreamed of. So you're lying there thinking about what to buy. Hope is what many people lack, and to find some hope in gambling is not as expensive as it may seem.

You are talking about this because you view gambling as a source of income, so you think everything must be taken into account, both losses and losses. For me, I play for fun and never count the losses and losses I experience, whether weekly or yearly. Why would doing that only make your mind is getting confused, besides, if you know that the casino is full of risks, it's best not to gamble, just keep quiet and watch

But if you try to think from the perspective of a gambler who likes to have fun gambling, of course you think losing is a normal thing, let's just say you went to watch with your lover, of course it was very fun, wasn't it and you spent how many dollars on it, would you count it as losses or other things, even though you are already having fun with it, then what's the difference when you are gambling and looking for fun, there is no difference. use this mindset so you don't think too much about losses, don't gamble just to win, just enjoy the game

Friends, gambling is about numbers and decisions. Indeed, the house always wins. Don't fool yourself—it's not about overcoming the odds every time. All about thrills and excitement. The thrill of gambling, not the wins or loses, is what's entertaining. Nature dictates that you lose more than you win. But is it false? Not really. The choice to spend money on entertainment is conscious. Gambling isn't the battlefield for human nature's desire to dominate. It's about letting go within bounds, not control. Gambling is about understanding when to stop, not just playing. Setting limits, playing smartly, and understanding dangers are key. The real enjoyment is there. It's about discipline and self-control, not just winning.

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Fun is subjective. What's fun for one may not for another. Gambling with money you can lose is key. The game stays healthy and responsible. Yes, loss is likely, but isn't that true for most entertainment? You pay for experience, not results. Gambling is enjoyment with rules and hazards. Playing smart and safe keeps it fun.

Gambling is for entertainment only. This is an old saying but still effective to these days. The method and ways of gambling may have changed, but the main principle of gambling remains the same. Change your perspective and you will see the bigger picture.
Putting money in gambling is like paying for the entertainment and enjoying the gambling at the cost of that money. Every win is like something you get just for being a loyal customer and for being there. Think of gambling like this and everything will change.
It's not about gambling what you can afford to lose, it's about gamble only if you can afford to buy the entertainment.

It is a perspective and possible how someone who is not interested in gambling at all thinks about it.

But there are different perspectives, human nature doesn't love to be defeated so they try and try until they win, they just feel the adrenaline while making bet which is another one, and there are lot of other reasons for why people keep betting even when they know they are not having the advantage to win.

How a gambler gambles is another matter after gambling but every gambler starts gambling to make a profit by gambling. Maybe after losing money by gambling when a gambler realizes the true meaning of gambling then he can take gambling as a simple fun but in reality everyone gambles to make a profit. We are gambling with maximum risk of money in the hope of some profit. There are many gamblers who only lose money by gambling but still they don't stop gambling because they have hope that no matter how much money they lose, just one jackpot can change their life. They only think like this and bet money but at some point they never hit the jackpot and they end up losing money. Like I don't enjoy gambling now but in the beginning I didn't enjoy gambling at all.

For those who don't pursue anything and just want to enjoy their free time from gambling, they can call it a fun time. They will repeat it in their free time and whatever the result, they can accept it well.
But that will be different from people who deliberately want to win from gambling. If they lose, they won't call it fun but they will have to recover their losses another day.
They will find it difficult to accept loss and still want to try another time.
If that's you, you should not think about winning and losing and rather enjoy your free moments so you can enjoy the gambling games you want.

Well, educated or not I guess they all knew what the probability of winning in gambling, but people loves to lie to themselves hoping to turn everything around positively.
This could be totally fine for those people who have stable income and can afford to lose the amount of money they burned in gambling. But, pity to those who think they can actually get rich with consistent gambling.

majority if not all want to make money. i once gambled all because i was given the task to review a casino, was willing to lose $10 just to test the casino and it was fun at some point thinking i would get the amount back when paid.

but if i have to gamble from my pocket i would expect to win. sane as an investor who expects ROI. nobody wants to lose money that's why it's not enjoyable for a gambler to lose money.

Of course that's just a way to lie to ourselves but in reality we want to have fun and profit in return. Yeah there could be some pleasure you may gain while gambling but in the end a losing bet is a losing bet and we tend to sometimes regret if we tend to recall it. Over time if you are an optimistic gambler past losses do not tend to matter, you're just focus to earn in the present.

You cannot speak for everyone because gambling is not the same for everyone and means different things to different individuals. There are people who are financially very stable, but will not enjoy any game they try to watch if they do not place a bet on it. For some, betting on a game adds extra suspense and thrill, trying to predict how a game will turn out. These people are not really focused on winning, but do not mind to win and will not also worry if they loose. That is just the fun for them.

The truth is that if you are gambling to make money for a living you can never see gambling to be fun because it will always make you sad when you lose. Gambling can be seen as fun when you are not expecting much from gambling and not being desperate to make money from gambling.  Gambling is fun to some people while it can be also seen as pain for some people,  this is because all gamblers have targets and know the reason why they play gamble.

The only way you can see gambling to be fun if only you with an amount you can afford to lose and you are not playing gambling to make money to solve problems. I play gamble for fun because am not a desperate gambler and I play with small amount once in a while.

I may agree with you to some degree that people gamble for not fun, but they are just that they are using that to covered up to get better in gambling,but in another way, there are some people who still gamble for fun. I will say that this set of people always gamble with very small amounts, even less than what they can afford to lose.

I have seen this set of people before, and their gambling side of predictions is always very funny. Like yesterday matches between Manchester United and Aston Villa, I saw someone just predict before the game to start that Aston Villa should win half of the game and Manchester United should be the winner of the game, but they bet it with a very small amount of money,and when someone says this option is just betting will definitely know it for fun.

Depends on what kind of fun you want. Losing and winning are part of gambling and the best gambler is when you are a responsible gambler. It doesn't matter if you lose or win as long as you are responsible, but for fun you may need to enjoy the game neither defeat nor victory. When you feel happy about winning and you are angry about losing, then you may never feel how fun a game is. Enjoy the game regardless of the results you get, it's the fun.

Decision to either gamble for fun or not is an individual thing, no gambler is ever forced to gamble for fun, so there is no way we can be telling ourselves lies except for those gamblers who decide to tell themselves lies.

But generally, a gambler either decide to gamble for fun or for the money, it's completely up to him or her, like myself, when ever I have some money to spare, that is, money I know I just wanna trow away to gambling, I just have fun playing my favorite game, I have many of them in slot and casino games.
But when I am eager to win some money, I go for sports betting instead.

OP, when you are playing a game, what will you say that you are doing. It is because of the fun in the game that makes you want to play such game over and over again. Mind you if you are used to playing a particular game before you know it your skill will improve in the game and you can boldly tell your opponent that you will win him, you can even go as far as to challenge him with some amount of money to show him that you are better than him. If you are not enjoying the game, you wouldn't go as far as betting to show how good you are in the game. The fact is that nobody is betting because he wants to lose, but if it happens that you lost, you will let go of your losses and move on, because you enjoyed the game despite that you didn't win. If you want to go and have fun, you pay for your choice of game that you want to play. Will you now say that because you lost, you wouldn't pay for the game and you didn't enjoy yourself.

It shouldn't become as surprise that we lose from time to time. If you are not having fun with gambling. Step out of it and ponder your reasons why you gamble. Because if you are gambling purely for steady profit, you might want to consider other means for it. Part of the fun is not knowing if you win or lose. And that winning big happens so rarely.

Even if my losses would be greater then winnings, that's not only reason i am gambling. It's a past time like any other. Most of the fun you do with your life is not profitable. In fact most of it costs a lot. At least with gambling you have a change to make that money back, and a small change to win big. But as a personal note, it sounds like you need to take a brake. As in your text you are talking about yourself, even though you distance yourself and use "we" instead. And looks like you are looking for people to agree with the advice to yourself..

Do you ask yourself the same thing when you spend money drinking, eating out, hanging around with friends, purchasing fancy accessories you really don't need as basic need and so on? Does it worth to spend money with all these things in name of fun? I think so. Money exists to serve us, and not the opposite. We need money for our basic needs and appointments, but also for our pleasure and satisfaction. If gambling gives you pleasure and satisfaction, it's not an issue if you are losing more money than winning on long run.

Some people weight the pros and cons and still conclude gambling is suitable for them, as they don't feel too attracted by another hobbies people use to enjoy. So let them be happy gambling. It's definitely not a lie to say people gamble for fun, although it depends on which kind of person we are talking about. If the gambler is playing avid for profits, it will be a lie if he says he is gambling for fun, but there are other gamblers who really play for fun. They don't begin their gambling session with fixed goals in mind to be achieved. They let it happen naturally and if it doesn't, they go home peacefully, hoping to have a better luck next day.

Think about the following scenario: in your neighborhood, your friends decide to organize a football game in which you will participate. You will be on team A while your friends will be on team B. They will bet money, the winning team will take all the money. See, when you leave your house to the field where the football game is going to be held, you don't know who will win all the way, but you know that someone will lose and lose money. So why would you be going to the field to play knowing that you are going to lose money? the reason why you will go to the field to play even though you know that there is a high risk of losing money is because there is hope that you can win and win the money, because of this hope and desire to emerge as a winner, you will not give up playing and during the game you will forget that you have friends on the field and you will look at them as opponents that you need to beat at all costs and it will no longer be just because of the money, you will fight to win because you want to look at everyone on the field with the feeling that you are a victorious, good person. in what you do. That's what happens when people play games.

no one plays to lose, everyone when they put money in the casino, they do it because they have hope that they will win and come away with profits, the fun comes later during the game, this is because when people play they like to feel that they are in control, that they are superior to the casino and that they can win. The problem arises when they can't win and they start to have many losing streaks and they chase losses and lose everything. rich people with a lot of business, play with a lot of money, play for many hours and for fun because they don't need that money they are playing, when they lose money at the casino, the next day they will have 2x of that money they lost, because there are many business. So they just play for fun

We have debated on this topic quite a number of times, i think it is high time we let everyone believe in what they want to believe.  For those who do not see gambling as a fun activity, will you stop playing a game simply because you lost the game? Oh yea! You used money go gamble therefore the outcome should be winning and no loss? People spend a lot just to have fun.

 Until we understand how gambling works, we will not make it a serious affair. Gambling is a game of luck and if we channel our minds to making profits,  we might in most cases keep chasing losses with just little wins. This doesn't always end well as it may lead to a gambling problem. Yea we know there are professional gamblers  who make a living from gambling, this set of people have trained themselves over the years to accept whatever the outcome of their games will be.

That proves that gambling is for fun and not for making money from casinos. Casinos have a house edge that gives them a guaranteed mathematical advantage over long-term. Think about casinos the way you think about Xbox game pass. When you play casino games, you pay some money to experience the game, to get fun from it like you get fun from a video game for which you paid 50$.

It's a nice bonus to win money but I have been in touch with many gamblers and I know that many of them, especially rich gamblers, play for fun and don't care about money. Btw poor gamblers usually want to win the jackpot and profit from casino to escape poverty but that's not a right mindset to register and play on casino.

Well, we can compare it to people having fun on cinema, hiking or even eating foods.  Did they win something?  Obviously aside from fun, they win nothing.  Gambling have its unique feature that is distinctive.  That is the possibility to win while having fun. Unlike those entertainment activity that only gives us spending.


It is given the fun in gambling is winning money while enjoying the game.  Some may not think of that but I believe majority of gamblers are hoping to win from their bet.


Will you call watching the cinema fun if you know for sure that you are losing money in buying tickets and some snacks to eat while watching?  

This is not entirely true, some people gain more than they lost monthly or yearly, I have a circle of friends who continue to make me see the reason for gambling though I haven't have a better record but man those guys really do get it though they still make losses but cumulatively their cashout is higher.
yes it's still fun especially when you have a circle of friends to discuss it with (including the win and loss), as long as you are not addicted to gambling I don't see anything bad in it just work with the strategy that works better for you. Currently I'm sticking with using little to get big since I have noticed that the number of times I ever won a bet is usually the unexpected games

Gambling is actually for fun, but it will be more fun if we also take profits on the side. That's why we also gamble not just for fun but we also do it to earn and income. Unfortunately, not all are given opportunities to win as a lot are only losing while they are trying to follow their urge in gambling. Once your losses outnumbered your profits, obviously it's not fun anymore, but still people even gamble more to recover their losses. Some might be lucky to make a big win in the end, while others continue to lose until they used up all their funds and regret why they enter gambling in the first place.

But there's fun in trying to beat the odds... Gambling with the amount we can afford to lose is exactly that, we know that we are playing against the odds and we need to be ready to lose, but there's that chance, sometimes a tiny one, that we can pull it off and make some profit.

So it's not a complete lie that we gamble for fun, we gamble and we are trying to win of course, we would like to win as big as possible... but a real gambler knows that winning is not always possible and that gambling is full of ups and downs. So we need to enjoy the process, up or down we have fun chasing the big prize! Good luck all the players! :)

Gambling for fun shouldn't be considered a lie, because it's true that gambling can offer us some fun. Same way other utilities make us happy and put us in a good mood. The only pain and difference is that gamblers think money going into gambling is a waste. But, lots of opportunities follow the practice. Gambling is more fun to society and offers players a better lifestyle if they handle their emotions and neglect the aim of earning lots of money through gambling. Those are only a few rewards and must be expected to appear luckily. If we have looked into the process and discovered that the winning and losses don't match, the first mentioned happens less than the later. Those who play strictly for fun don't feel regret and also know the importance of gambling and how it works. The goal of gamblers is to understand the hidden treasures in gambling. How it helps our brain to grow or fail, depends on the thoughts of the player. If he's interested in money his brain could fail him and endanger his future gambling journey. Which is not the right journey for any gambler.

But, those who see the relevant aspect of gambling, will make a fortune out through it, by diverting the ideas gotten through gambling to solve real-life problems. If a player is observant of the results and actions he takes in gambling, he won't have a hard time making the right decisions in life. When a gambler only focuses on money, his only motive would be headed for the big money, and he'll lose out on other important skills one could derive from gambling. This delivers fun to the player, since he's not concerned about money, that only swings the mode of the gambler, especially when he has lost money. Gamblers only need to follow the right choice or lane in gambling that will help improve their view on gambling. Not minding the bad review society points at gambling. It still offers some good qualities and changes in the life of most gamblers.

If I have to reply you from the same premise you are coming from I am sure you will understand one thing about gambling and involving in it as a fun or a means of getting money. From the illustration you get above if someone is investing and that investment does not yield depositive result I think they will quit and try other kind of investments. In the same vein if someone is gambling and they are losing and yet they did not want to quit, that means they are having fun doing that, it is as simple as that.

However generally speaking the idea that gambling is for fun is somehow applicable only to the rich men and people that have steady sauce of income because they choose how much they would want to spend and have fun. But somehow who does not even know what they will eat for dinner and manages to bring out the small money they have to gamble they will inevitably expect much from it and that means that they are not having fun rather they are chasing winnings. So, it is correct to conclude that do some gambling is for fun, while to others it is not for fun.

You certainly don’t know for sure and can only conclude on your rate of losses being far greater than the rate at which you have won your bets.
There are people that have, through out their gambling history, have won a lot more than they’ve lost out. While it’s safe to say these people are few, they’re there.

People partake in different activities for different reasons.  And there are people who get thrills from gambling. They derive fun from the activity as they play leisurely. Of course, it helps when you don’t see gambling as a source of income.

This might be different for each person. But if I'm not a hypocrite, gambling isn't just for fun. So, be as serious as possible in studying what you are going to bet on. Whatever the outcome, at least I'm serious about doing it. Moreover, I'm not someone who often gets lucky, so I can't rely on luck in gambling. and because of this, I have to have good and wise fund management so that I don't get addicted to gambling and so that I can still control myself to know when it's time to start, continue and stop.

But I don't think gambling is just for fun. If we always lose at gambling, no matter how much, will we continue to feel like it's fun? I do not think so.

The game always has to be seen as fun, it cannot be seen as a normal income, things are quite obvious when they happen that way because seeing that the game is to become millionaires things are very bad, you lose money and that is What should be avoided, at all costs I avoid spending my money and I don't see the game as income, I see it as enjoyment, but I always have it in my mind to win, because luck is something that can come at any time, that's what that you can't stop doing.

When I'm in a casino I always look to win because it's what I like the most, but who doesn't like to win? Everyone, anyone who says they don't like winning must be very masochistic, so if we try to win by making good plays, we have to anticipate good luck at all times, and that luck has to be focused on victory and money, because If there is no money, you don't play, there is nothing.

I don't think nobody gambles for fun... I keep saying this everyday in here; no matter how it sounds -- who would maintain such faithfulness when they know too well that anyone could possibly win good cash? Has anyone grown into addiction from just playing for fun? If not, then playing for fun isn't accountable at all.

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To be more factual, addicts are compulsive gamblers that are always ready to adapt to new strategies to WIN -- though they've been flopped by over a thousand already.. nobody would do anything that doesn't pay, talkmore of wasting money on it...

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No it's a real thing if you consider what you are doing is for entertainment and it is not impeding any of your life's responsibilities.  I know people who spend $1,000 for a concert ticket that last 3 hours.  They find it entertaining, in essence "they lost" $1000.  What's the difference putting $100 on the game and buying a ticket to go watch it live for a couple hundred dollars.  If it makes the game more entertaining than that is what you are paying for.

. Yes and that is where the fun part of it comes into play,  because while some believes that gambling is solely for the profits which makes them to think and believe that there is no one gambling for the fun and everyone gambling os for the money,  this kind of thought have affected alot of them in the past and we have always advice that,  as a gambler you should take our the time to properly outline what you really want and at the same time be able to come up whether you gambling for the fun or for the profits,  your answer to that determine your standing on the matter.

I think gambling can be said to be for fun if you come with a recommended goal or come with a goal not to look for the winning amount. Actually, I personally think the idea of gambling just for fun is nothing more than something that can change someone's mindset on the point of view of gambling, which means to prevent them from the idea of gambling to win because of the many temptations that of course can make them think that gambling can be used as a place to earn, and that is dangerous because actually this activity is not a place to earn, the bookie makes casinos as a place to make profits from some losing gamblers, so I think with that statement alone we should be able to conclude that it is unethical if we come with the aim of earning.

Because when gamblers have such thoughts, it is clear that the number of attempts they make will be more frequent or more because their main focus is to get a large number of wins and of course with that, there will be more losses that make gamblers lose fun. So to minimize that from happening especially so as not to have a mistake in the point of view of gambling then we must make this activity nothing more than an activity to find entertainment when you have boring free time.

Everyone who gambles is already aware that there's a higher chance of losing than winning. And with such regards, instead of having that mindset that we'll easily lose.

We're thinking of the outcome positively and while doing it, it's not gonna hurt to be optimistic while having fun. So, that's it, you choose your battle and experience as you gamble.

Whether you'll have a negative thinking that you're ready to lose which is normal or the opposite and to have fun while it lasts.

When you gamble, don’t you feel happy in the process of doing it? I agree with you that after calculating the amount won and lost in gambling, your loss might be more than your profit. That’s why you should gamble with a reasonable amount of money, don’t gamble with the amount that will affect you after losing. When you gamble with a small amount, it’s not going to affect you after losing because you already had fun gambling. When research is done, then you will discover that most people do lose rather than win, but you will discover that most people who do lose much in gambling are the ones who are addicted to gambling, the ones who gamble just because they want to make money from gambling. If you have that mindset, then you will always feel bad because you will always lose more.

You are right, some people are claiming they are gambling for fun, but they are just deceiving themselves. The main reason why they are gambling is just for the sake of money. People like that do annoy me because I don’t know why they are pretending. If you want money from gambling, then no one will do anything about it. So why deceive yourself thinking you are deceiving people?

The enjoyment indeed stems from the thrill of the chase with acknowledging the ups and downs that come with it. The responsible approach sets the foundation for an enjoyable experience, because it mitigates the potential negative consequences of financial losses. This is how a gambler should be.

Knowing that winning is not always possible demonstrates a realistic understanding of the nature of gambling. This recognition distinguishes true gamblers from those who may approach the activity with unrealistic expectations of consistent success. Enjoying the process is the journey to fulfill the enjoyment that comes from participating in the activity rather than solely focusing on the end result.

It only becomes a lie when you believe it is a lie. Does it make sense? The thing is that there is fun to be had when you're gambling, it's not what other people make it to be which is "nothing but a way for me to make money on the side hurr durr" at the end of the day you know that you're not gonna end up with the same amount of money that you came in with, and if you're going to lose the money anyway, might as well make it fun and enjoyable. Which is what most of us responsible gamblers are shooting for. It only becomes weird and stupid when you suddenly assume that no one can't gamble for fun cause even you had to be stressed when you lose money. Which is true to some degree, but at the end of the day responsible gamblers have stuff at their disposal that they can use to make the most out of their gambling journey, even when they are losing money.

Plus the thing is that the common misconception about gambling is you only have fun when you win, but if you gamble with friends, you gamble when you know how much money you can put in, or perhaps just gambling to show off your skills at a certain game you inadvertently make gambling fun for you and for everyone that's around you, and that is why for some people, they can find entertainment and fun in gambling even when they lose money. It's about making the most out of your money, one way or another.

I think you're over analyzing this.  I am an example of someone whom truly gambles just for fun.  I have been gambling for I don't know, maybe close to 20 years now, and I've never got myself to the point where I had to ask myself if I was gambling for fun or if I had some sort of addiction. I certainly consider myself extremely lucky for not getting addicted..but am proof that not everyone who does, is a gamble-holic. 

The gambler will not gamble for few years,it is like the gambling from his inheritance.If the gambler parents and grandparents had the influence of the gambling,even though his parents would have stop their children from gambling.The kid will do the gambling without the knowledge of the family and even if they play in his home.He will separate themselves from the family to play the game.If the gamblers get the free space and some dollars for the gambling,the good news is he can enjoy the gambling till his death.Because once the gamblers always the gamblers.Some gamblers in this section post about the retirement of gambling,but the real fact is the gamblers will not stop gambling.It may happen in the old ages because of no money.

Depends on a certain person on which there are really those people who are really that playing for fun totally or honestly but due to the longer engagement and time you've been spending towards it
then those things that you've been have in mind earlier would definitely be changed up but everything would really be depending into someones mindset and control. Each person does have that different set or level of tolerance when it comes to risks and on the situation that they are facing. When they are stressed because of too much losses then those emotions would be taking over and to those things
that you have set before would really be changed up anytime and this is where things making up some u-turn and this is where people do really ends up on being busted.

How fun can gambling be? Gambling should not be considered as a source of income if the amount of money gained is less than the amount of money lost in gambling. Since gambling causes financial damage, psychological damage, social damage as well, it can be characterized as a social problem. However, since gambling creates a form of addiction in people, it should also be considered as a social addiction. However, since people like to spend a certain part of their lives in gambling, gambling is also considered by some as a source of entertainment.

There are gamblers who are real gamblers and are aiming to make money while doing it. But there are also gamblers that can be said to be recreational gamblers and they are doing it mostly just to have fun. With that, there's no need for any argument whether someone gambles for money or for fun. IMO, let them do what they wanna do because we're all in it for the reasons that are valuable to us.

We can be actual gamblers and are on it for the money and when we lose, we can have some adjustment and just say that we're just looking for some fun.  ;D
Actually, it doesn't matter right? Because what matters here is that you are not gambling with others money and it is your money that you are gambling with. Because if you're for the both or either and you're gambling not with your own money then that's where the argument starts and the reminders about on how we should be able to be good gamblers regardless of the reason we do. We should only gamble what we own, and we should lose what we own, and gain what we own.

the thing is, once you accept that losing is part of gambling and it is inevitable to happen, that is when you start enjoying the game itself and not just the gambling part of it. of course, I am not gonna lie that winning is a huge part of why gambling is fun, but having fun when gambling is not just about winning, there are people who actually enjoy the process of the game especially when it comes to card games.

Hope has fostered a sense of disillusionment with gambling. Because what we dream of does not match the reality, expectations are not as beautiful as reality. It is excessive expectations and expectations that have made us lose the pleasure of gambling, because if we behave like this, then we will never again enjoy the gambling process... because we are always waiting for the perfect ending. However, gambling is all about possibilities, maybe you win and maybe you can also lose... in gambling we really can't guarantee that every time we gamble, we will always win. So stop those excessive expectations and hopes, never think that gambling can make us rich, never think that by gambling our money will be multiplied many times over. Remain in the opinion that gambling is about fun, so never focus on the end result, but enjoy the process or the game.

I believe It is not a lie, it is rather a philosophy or way of thinking which is hard or difficult to successfully apply to ourselves at 100%, which is the ideal we all would like to have but cannot reach completely. Most of the people may see the "gambling for fun" thing as a way to cope for losses they did not have to see happening, so they can continue and move on from it and there is nothing ring about it, if that is what keep us within the responsible zone as gamblers and adults.
Sometimes it is not the expectation itself and it is harmful to us, but the amount of expectation we have on something which is very uncertain to happen.

Anyone would love to see their balance doubling by gambling in their favorite casinos there is no doubt about it, all of us like to have some extra money, but that is not supposed to be our explicit objective when logging into our casino accounts, if we happen to get it, then let us embrace it as a surprise which we were not counting on to pay for the things we need and want.

So in conclusion, it is not a lie most if the cases, but rather a coping mechanism.

It's natural because gambling was created for people who can afford to lose money and can enjoy the types of bets and games. In fact, indeed most gamblers definitely hope to make a profit if they play and sometimes gamblers can make a loss because they lose and if calculated in the 1st term in a month, gamblers definitely experience more losses than profits, that's what gambling is, if everyone makes a profit from gambling, the gambling platform will automatically go bankrupt because the aim of the casino was created to get as much profit as possible from its users.

Therefore, if your goal is not to have fun and you are not willing to lose money gambling, it is better to avoid it, but if you are ready to lose money, then start gambling and don't expect to make a profit and use as little money as possible so that you are not too burdened with the money you spend, let's just say you need entertainment and you can't get the money back.

As someone who claims to gamble for fun I would like to make a comment here as well. Yes, human nature constantly finds an excuse to defend itself but it should also be known that not everyone who claims to gamble for fun does so to defend themselves. For example, we cannot claim that someone who stops gambling without reloading the balance when the budget he/she wants to spend on gambling is exhausted doesn't gamble for fun and we cannot say that this person is addicted.

As I stated in my message in the previous title; "Matches left to the last minute in sports betting, the excitement of the roulette wheel spinning, the adrenaline I release when I approach 21 and ask for a card and the spin of slot machines have never been more than a form of fun for me. As I mentioned, when I gamble I play knowing that the chances of a big win are very low and I just have fun with the excitement of this process.''

In summary, if someone who bets with an amount that will not strain his/her budget, doesn't constantly make additions in case his/her balance runs out and doesn't feel the need to gamble constantly claims that he/she gambles for fun, it would be wrong to say that this person is defending himself/herself or that he/she is addicted to gambling.

This topic amuses me, because it is a bitter truth.It is really true that we lie to ourselves that gambling is fun especially when we lose money,and we still say it's fun.There is nobody who will derive joy in something that is removing money from his bank account.Every gambler who says gambling is fun is not a regular gambler, because if he was a regular gambler,he will calculate the amount he loses every minutes that he plays,and the amount lost each time he plays,and then he will see whether it will be a thing of fun or something to cry about.Gambling of a truth can never be fun because of the loses involved.

As long as the money is money that we can afford, and it doesn't matter if the money ends up being used for gambling, we shouldn't feel like we are lying to ourselves because we already know that the money can be used for gambling, but we still gamble. If we know and don't want to lie to ourselves and don't want to see the money just run out because of gambling, we don't need to gamble. No one asks us to gamble, but it is because of our own desire that we really want to gamble, so we know the consequences. The important thing is that we can enjoy gambling games in our free time and not worry about everything that will happen after we finish gambling because that is the money we can afford to gamble with. It's different if we really want to chase victory and gamble with a certain amount of money but suddenly, we lose and spend all the money. There is a feeling of regret for why we gamble.

I don't think this is overall lie for average person in society. But regular gambler can hardly become "fun seeking gambler". When someone starts gambling regularly, probably daily or at least 4 times a week - he will %90 turn into money seeking type of gambler. After couple of wins you get through your bets you will definitely start enjoying only winning part of that gambling adventure. Money converts people. This is sort of dark truth about gambling community. Luckily it is not very hard to tackle in my opinion.

If you settle down and read this your post again and again, you will realize that you just explained how fun gambling can be despite our loss experiences and it's never a lie we tell ourselves. The fact is that practically, fun and gambling can not be totally separated and it doesn't matter of whether you are winning or losing because the very nature of gambling is designed to be exciting and thrilling and it's this excitement that makes it to be so appealing. Gambling can be a form of entertainment and can provide excitement and a sense of risk and the potential to win money make it to be more fun despite that it's unlikely.

I know the pain of losing money and losing too much of your money to gambling will not let you to see the fun part of the gambling hence, the idea of responsible gambling with the amount of money you can afford to lose and enjoy the fun aspect of the game. Winning is just an added advantage. You pay, you enjoy the moment and you probably win some money again if you're lucky.

But that's gambling. Whether we like it or not, we gamble and feel how it can give us excitement, happiness and entertainment, but there are times when it gives us stress and anger, but we still play and don't feel unfair about it.
I don't want to be a hypocrite, but sometimes I also feel that why do I gamble when I have a losing streak, but when I hit a winning streak it all pays off. It's funny when you think about it, but even now I still gamble and still enjoy it without thinking too much about my losses.

There is no way to know if someone is lying about having fun in gambling but I have seen someone who quit from gambling because he had hopes of changing his life using gambling and it doesn't work out, after few months of quitting he is back and this time only to have fun.

I think that those who later find out that gambling with the hope to make wealth is impossible are those who decide to proceed using what they can afford to lose and stop chasing money, I consider such people smart, because they learn their lessons fast, where some people are trapped in the delusion like forever.

Gambling is fun only if you make it to be fun, and expectations of money must be neutralized first before you will start enjoying your time when gambling, go slower and stay in the safest side, using small amount of money, you will do great

That words mostly comes from people who does not even know gambling but needs to make a comment for their post to be counted  because how stupid is someone that can called it fun when they are losing?
Maybe it is welcome to tell that you have fun while playing and can consider also while losing because there are still chance to recover but once  all the capital is gone ? then that is full stupidity to say its fun when you are going home without even gas money because of losing.

Yeah, if there is one thing certain in gambling, it's the fact that it's an activity filled with bend corners, the fact that gambling should mainly be for fun does not mean that its one without challenges.

In the real world, people get injured while doing something they love to do, this is also the same with gambling, I could lose a good amount of money while having fun, and on the other hand, I could win a good amount of money as well, but what I think is most important is that, we don't count the loses too important, for when we win, we wil be happy and forget totally about the number of times we lost.

So, what I usually say to people is, it is not by force to play gambling for fun, you could from time to time play for money, but make sure to not count the losses too important like I said before, make sure to enjoy the game, and be happy overall, whether in winning or losing, this is how to be a healthy gambler.

It's probably a lie for someone like you OP, but not for me, because I know it's near impossible to beat the casino, that's why I believe that having fun and risking few dollars is the best approach to gambling, you think otherwise? Do you thing, but I can assure you that you will have stories to tell about how you lost a lot to gambling.

I have lost some money too but not a lot that could have gotten me sometime better, it's the type of money that I can give someone for free without expecting them to pay me back, it's not worth losing a lot to gambling and it's so possible to end up on this path if you strongly believe in gambling, I don't, and I don't want to, still I choose to enjoy some games risking very little amount of money.

Same with me, I find gambling fun because I don't count my losses, although deep inside I know that I already lose a lot of money as of now but due to the entertainment factor that gambling is bringing into my life, I'm still here because my big wins makes me smile everytime I remember them.

IMO, losing in gambling is not a problem since it's normal, and as long as we have a consistent source of income, either from our job or our own business, we will sure be living a satisfied life while ocassionally gambling as well, or maybe even regularly as long as we will not risk beyond our limit.

As long as you have a dopamine boost in your brain while you gamble, then yes, gambling is fun. Having a dopamine boost isn't "lying to yourself". Your body and your brain is having fun, I don't think that your body and brain can lie. Maybe your rational mind denies the fact that gambling is fun, but your subconscious mind wants more and more dopamine and this is what dominates and controls your behavior.
If you gamble with the sole purpose of "making money" gambling becomes stressful and the "having fun" part goes away.
Is gambling a productive way to spend time and money? Nope. Some activities and hobbies are fun and productive. Gambling isn't productive at all. That's why gambling is considered a bad habit, just like porn, gaming, drinking alcohol, doing drugs.

Yes, everyone has the right to choose to gamble for money or for fun as long as it is under proper control, there is no problem with that because usually people overdo it and become addicted to gambling because they gamble for money, which is different from gamblers who have fun even though we know Having fun in this case doesn't mean it's not for money, it just means changing our mindset so that it doesn't become our demand to win when gambling. I'm sure you understand the meaning.

A healthy mindset will enable gamblers to gamble healthily, not too follow their ambitions to win big and follow their emotions just for the sake of money, gamblers must be able to enjoy the game so they are not too careless in managing the tempo of the bets made, the point is to remain in proper control therefore It is important to control yourself so as not to get trapped and addicted to gambling.

If you remove winnings from gambling, I wonder how many gamblers that will still come back to gamble, beyond having fun, there's a subtle challenge in our minds that we're coming back to win and recover lost money. Because we've told our selves that we're gambling for fun, it suppresses the feelings that we want to gamble to win, if not why would you have fun playing games that you have high probability of losing. The consolation that I see for reasonable gamblers is that they gamble the amount that they can afford to loose, so the frustration of eventual lose can reduce. The exceptions that I see are money bags who have enough money to throw away without minding, because they have it in surplus.

You talked a lot but I wonder if you already have decent gambling experience. Or have you ever been to a land-based casino? Otherwise, why listen to you? Do you even understand how the house edge works? Do you know the rate of house edge on the different games? But I understand that only people with extra money and have the kind of risk tolerance should gamble. Maybe gambling is not fit for you.

Remove the winning from gambling and there are still some people who will play. It's like going to a movie house or a computer gaming cafe. Some people call it illogical since we can watch movies at home or play games at home. But it's the experience. People simply just have different tastes in entertainment.

The important advice is self-control, which will give control to everything done when gambling.
But it is quite difficult for beginners who are starting to get into gambling with the money they have.
I myself, even when I started playing just to try, the money I deposited ran out quickly because I didn't have any strategy and liked some of the games available.

Now I prefer football betting because it's more real, and I can watch my favorite clubs play and while placing a little bet try to guess who's going to win.

The tempo of the bet must be set and should not use all the money, there must be a tempo or strategy that must be applied so that you have control over everything that is done including how to use money to gamble.
Start slowly and do gambling like just a game that can give profits or even losses and does not cross the limit or rules that have been made.

I think that's how it should be, gambling doesn't have to count the losses that have occurred and this happens to people who gamble whose aim is just to have fun like you, most of those who gamble because their aim is to make money or double their money, by This usually makes their emotions uncontrollable when they lose and want to chase a win that can cover the losses they have made. because in my opinion a different view of gambling can lead to certain things, viewing it as entertainment alone probably won't cause problems in the future, but if you view gambling as a way to double your money, maybe this will make them stressed because the percentage of losses in gambling is higher. Gamblers are more likely to lose than to win.
I agree with you, losing in gambling is a normal thing because in gambling, in my opinion, there are only losses and wins, but the percentage of wins is smaller than the percentage of losses, and in my opinion, luck will determine whether you win or lose in gambling.

Not applicable for me because the reason why I am gambling is to win. Although I know myself that winning is unlikely in the long run, but I am still gambling because I'm enjoying the moment I win. If there's no winning in gambling, then it's not called gambling anymore, because it's a gamble, we gamble money for a reward, just like a business, we gamble by investing to be successful, here we gamble to win.

I find people insane when they are still gambling despite knowing they have no chance of winning.

It's not easy to admit that we have lost money when gambling, but we can still consider it a fun activity. But we should be able to do it, especially if we use gambling just for fun and not to make money. Perhaps we need to reduce gambling activities so that we won't think long about the losses we experience and just think it is normal to experience losses from gambling. And as long as we just want to gamble without any desire to win the gambling game, I think it is still acceptable that we have fun from gambling. Maybe relaxing and gambling can relieve our tension after finishing a day's activities. By trying to accept whatever happens after we finish gambling, we will still be able to return to gambling even though we will return after some time, maybe a week or a month. But that's okay because our goal in gambling is only to get entertainment.

Most people literally gamble to win, you cannot deny that as a gambler you would not want to win and take profits. Gambling is pure luck, we already know that the chances of winning are pretty low but when you win, your money could be doubled up or tripled, so we are still hoping to win and might get the timing of the probability of winning. It is indeed insane that people who gamble knowing the fact that they have no chance of winning keep continuing, the reason is for fun. I mean there's no fun in losing cause the one who's gonna benefit is the house itself. We might have different ways of entertainment, we just need to be responsible and limit ourselves, cause it might cause addiction in the long term knowing the fact that it doesn't do anything good but still we continue.

The average gambler does it to win money, having fun at gambling is the second goal after money.
I can say that because most gamblers have the same mindset, even if there is research then I am very sure that the main goal of the average gambler is money. I'm not really sure how many gamblers do it for fun, whereas here many do it for the money. I don't see this being a problem as long as they gamble responsibly, but if they fail to do so then they should be prepared to face dire consequences.

If you're not comfortable with that fact and you cannot have fun knowing that there's a big probability of losing then don't gamble, casinos are business operated to make profit its not cheap to set up an online casinos the cost is too big and this is not a cash cow of people, though some people tries to make it as their cash cow.

You can try the easy way and that is by accepting that your chance is 50/50 and have fun with the games or the hard by trying to make the casino you're cash cow but expect to get disappointed because the house has an edge and that edge will play out anytime, so if you're already winning and you think that calling a day is a good idea then do so, or you could lose your winning and will have to chase your losses and eventually get disappointed.

I would still add that this is not a lie for fun, this story is more about hope. Moreover, many players do not deceive themselves, they sincerely believe that they have a great chance of winning and will definitely be lucky, and also that they will win the jackpot. They hope for this because they do not know the real chances of winning, but they have a great desire to win. If such a player is lucky, then he will eventually bring his big winnings to the same casino and lose it completely. And only after long losses will he begin to wonder why this happened and find out what chances he really had. And only after that, if he wants to play, he will probably deceive himself that it is for fun, but in reality he will want to win back.

I do think that the profit aspect of gambling is what makes it entertaining in the first place. If you remove its monetary aspect, then there will be nothing to risk and bet against- thereby removing the "thrill" and adrenaline aspect of gambling.

Without any money involved, this will negate all the emotions that a person may feel when he/she bets. Imagine playing gambling without any money involved, what will you feel if there is no risk in the first place?

In conclusion, gambling is fun regardless on how you view it whether as a source of income or for entertainment.

I think the idea of gambling for fun doesn't apply to every gambler. There are some gambler who only finds the fun part in gambling when they experience wins, while there are some gamblers who see loss as a part of gambling. What I mean is, when you look at your over all gambling history and discover you are on the profit side, I bet you would feel you have been having fun, though there are times where you may feel bored of losing even if it's a small one but the fun mostly comes when you are on the winning side.

I don't think so, gambling is really entertainment for me. I consider gambling like a game, not a source of income or anything else. I also often play online games like fps, rpg, rhythm games etc. And everything I play I spend money and reach 900$ to 1000$ in total each game.

I also don't gamble often even though it's fun to play because I also avoid becoming an addict. You just have to control yourself and the most important thing is that you are happy with what you are doing.

Gambling for fun. Yes... that was my initial goal. but everything changed when I got a big win for the first time in the gambling I did, where I won many times the amount of money I bet. This big win can really change the paradigm of my thinking about gambling, to the point that gambling is a place to make a profit and gambling is a place to multiply money. Everything changed in an instant and I couldn't enjoy the gambling I was doing, unless I got a win. Where defeat becomes a regret and small wins continue to be missed... but the next day I still gamble even though I often get tired.

But not now, after I was able to realize all the mistakes I had made, slowly this made me better and wiser in playing gambling. Even though sometimes I still make careless things, it's not as frequent as before.

Before now, gambling use to be fun and entertainment, in the street you see popele roll dice to trick eachother into doubling money, it use to be fun and that was the genesis until the business is now everywhere. If not for marketing that some of them are poor in, I'm sure that we will see more than 100 different gambling platforms and that's because each one of them want to take over and be the leading company and the people using this platforms see it's as an opportunity to make money. Gambling is fun to some people but it's now a money making thing for many people.


What I found surprising about gambling these days is that even females and people that does real job now gamble because they want to make extra cash. They have main job that is paying well but they don't want to lose the opportunity of gambling money and that tells how serious and badly everyone is looking for a way to make money from gambling. It might be a fun thing maybe for some people that watch Premier League on weekends but let's not lie to each other, it's now about the money.

when people plays a trivial amounts (the value of 1 pizza, as we would say here in Italy... ;D ) maybe playing just 1-2 days a month... maybe not every month....

It's clear that it's a simple way to spend your time in a fun way, so I don't see anything related to addiction here.
It's really difficult to think that some one is playing to "earn" (yes ok 2 pizzas can be the start of a glorious business)  8)

The real fun in gambling starts once you look at it in another way and focus less on the goal of winning money when it's mostly out of your control.

It's true if you only limit yourself to casino games because of the house edge, but not all forms of gambling have a house edge that lowers the win probability.

I've always been fascinated by the fact that people enjoy gambling even when they lose. I used to think, how is this possible? After all, losing a game should definitely not give a person positive emotions. After some time, I came to the conclusion that everything is a little more complicated. Yes, a person experiences a little disappointment about losing. But at the same time, if a person knows how to think, then one loss or a group of them gives a person statistics and the opportunity to test some of his hypotheses or simply increase experience. A person focuses his attention not on losing a relatively small amount, but on gaining experience. This is what he can remember.

Yes, these are all rights for gamblers and it is up to them to use them for what kind of purpose, in fact gambling addiction is not just about pursuing profit, but there are also gamblers who have fun and can become addicted, just like rich people who waste their money looking for pleasure, whether gambling. or as drug addicts, if they enjoy it too much this can lead to addiction. This applies to us even though we understand the purpose of gambling is pleasure. We must understand the limits and be able to control our thoughts so as not to overdo it.

Of course, every gambler must have a healthy and intelligent mindset. They must be able to use gambling wisely and not pursue any ambitions too much. Winning or losing is something we must accept because the most important thing is not to spend too much money on gambling because that is certain gambling is full of risks, therefore we must be able to control ourselves.

but if you enjoy the games you play at gambling, it will only make you bored. winnings are a bonus and the casino's attempt to keep its gamblers coming back.
the hope of winning, of course, there is. But don't make it an ambition to win. it will only make you regret if you experience a losing streak. do it wisely. Gambling is a game with capital. you pay for the game, not for the wins.

That's why casinos hold a win in gambling in the form of money, none other than because this is the way that casinos believe to be able to make gambling more attractive and also of course one of the other goals is to keep gamblers coming back to play and chasing wins, and the fact that most gamblers don't realize is that the casino actually takes their money slowly in every session they do, that's why you will usually only be able to get a win when you have sacrificed several or even many defeats, if calculated then usually the amount of victory does not match what you have lost, in the sense that the number of defeats is much greater.

Yes that's right, the fact is that all gamblers definitely want to win but as you said that we should not be too serious to pursue it because it is too impossible if the reality is that victory always depends on luck, so it's better to gamble normally without putting any expectations because anyway if it's time to win then the victory will come by itself, lowering expectations will indirectly make you less disappointed if you really lose in the end.

Basically, gambling is place full of defeats, in fact anyone who gambles will definitely experience defeat.
It all depends on ourselves whether we can accept all the impacts of losing from gambling which will obviously always happen, if we can accept it then there is no need to regret or even feel disappointed if the loss is much more than what we earn.
After all we come to gambling site and risk some money not to make money and of course we are here in the gambling industry when we only aim to have fun then losses are just payment for the enjoyment and pleasure we feel.
Like when we go to entertainment venues or go on holiday to tourist attractions, we definitely spend money too and let just say that we gamble as if we are looking for entertainment or pleasure.

Moreover, if you only take into account wins and losses it will only lead to disappointment and this can give rise to feelings of trying to try to recover all the losses that have occurred.
Gamble according to your abilities and use the money you can possibly receive when you lose it, then change the goal of gambling as an activity that produces pleasure, so losing is not something that will make you feel loss because you lost money.

You will also lose money when you want to pursue pleasure through other means, those who think traveling is to get pleasure will spend money to get that sensation and other means, so it is quite natural that there are gamblers who think that they are playing just to get pleasure even though you have lost a lot.
And even though it is to get pleasure, of course he will still hope to win, the only thing that differentiates people who gamble for pleasure from others is that whatever the result will not affect his attitude or thoughts, and can always accept it as a natural thing, and can stop at any time when already get the pleasure.
So when we play because we want to have fun but also hope to win, it is not a lie but a reality that cannot be ignored.

Well losing really depends on personal preferences. Some enjoy the excitement of uncertainty, while others might prefer activities with more predictable outcomes. Just be sure to keep it within your budget.

Youre right that whether it's traveling or gambling, spending money for pleasure is common. Some people gamble for the thrill and fun, even if they don't always win. The trick is being cool with whatever happens and knowing when to call it quits after enjoying the ride.

Everyone doesn't one to lose but we have different level of tolerance on how much the amount we can lose or how far we can go since if we exceed to our limits then it will be no fun anymore since we are totally in destructive behavior for having that occurrence.

But if we are still fine then still inside of intended budget I guess having fun is not actually a lie since there are people can able to handle that thing and they are there just to get something what can entertain since they had nothing to do for some time. Some people prefer to have thrill and that people enjoys a lot while gambling. But those other people expect about a lot of profit to be taken but turn out they lose all the money they have are the one who will not enjoy about things they have done.

IMO is there any standard limit to being happy about everything in life? OP, what do you think joy is? I think many people will have the same feeling as me about the experience, like you travel to wild places that are far from the reality of your life before, but is that the joy you want? Yes, in gambling sometimes confusion of opinions causes us to have disagreements, but even those disagreements, to me are part of the spice of life. One person is willing to spend an amount of money that another person can lose, and one person plans to have more money in the same field. If possible, try to put your thoughts into each person's situation to understand better. I think expressing personal views in an imposing manner will not be the way to achieve usefulness in debate, so if you can't agree, everyone should do whatever they feel is right and suitable (with responsibility/or irresponsibility).

Do you think that rich people don't gamble? If you think so, you are wrong. And do you think that they gamble to win money? Of course not, because they already have a lot of money and they don't need to earn money from gambling as they have enough sources of income already. So, they gamble just for fun and they consider it an activity of the rich as they often tend to choose to do what requires a lot of money so that they can show the world that they are rich and they can afford a very expensive lifestyle.

So, it depends on one's financial ability and their mindset about gambling in general, and that mindset is often a result of the financial capabilities of a person, which means that if you are rich and can afford it, you will just enjoy gambling, but if you are not rich and still gambling, it means you are looking for money through it.

No you shouldn't be tempted if that is already happening to you. But, there are still people who really gambles for fun. It can be in a way that they only use tiny amounts of money, or they don't deposit at all. Lying is wrong even if we say that it's a kind of strategy.

There are still strategies in which we don't need to lie (I already said that earlier). If our main purpose to play gambling is to earn a profit, then we should stand up straight or be confident with that. There is no need to lie or be a pussy and regret later on. If we remove the aspect of real money in gambling, obviously there will be a noticeable decline of users but there are still people who will stay.

I fully agree wit you, there are rich as there are poor people that enjoy gambling. It doesn't really depend on how much money we have, because gambling is usually possible and small sizes. So, everybody can choose how much money he is willing to bet with. Rich people have the exact same winning chances that we have, the only difference is that their bankroll is larger and they are not at risk to go broke so quickly. I believe the fun and excitement from gambling is not connected to our own personal financial situation.  Also, just visiting a physical casino can be a lot of fun without betting a lot of money ourselves. Usually people like to drink and gamble, because alcohol is either free or cheap at the casinos. The company we are with at the casinos is also important for having a good time. Just because I lost some money doesn't mean the night was a complete failure if I am with my best friends.

That is basically me, I am one of those people. I do not care about winning, obviously if you remove all the possibilities of winning, then why would I click a button to see myself lose each time, I do like the winning side of it obviously, but I do lose all my money every single month.

I put aside a small tiny amount each month, nothing that would matter to me, basically like 5 cinema tickets worth or something (depends on where you live obviously) and that means I get to lose and lose it ALL every month and I am fine about it. Along the way sometimes I win, it is not just pure loss, sometimes ı win a bit, but then I lose that as well. That's a fun process, I have fun, it is a good experience and in return I don't case my losses.

Gambling the amount you can afford to loose does not mean you aren't loosing but just a mechanism to keeping you in check such that your losses doesn't in anyway affects your mind to making you tend towards unhealthy attitude s after gambling because there are amounts that when we lose we are definitely not going to be same.

But then it's important wether you are gambling for fun or to make money , only risk the amount you can comfortably loose so you don't get to regret and start chasing losses and tend towards addiction knowingly or unknowingly the aim is to maintain a healthy gambling habit and not to self decit about our gambling habit, if your losses is taking a tool on you, it's important you take a break and probably quite it will do you much good than it will hurt but if you don't quit you will only get frustrated as gambling can actually ruin you if not played with good caution.

Gambling for low rollers can be fun similarly to the high rollers. It's a personal self condition that determines how a gambler feels while gambling. The financial status makes not much difference. Casino is a free place for anybody to enter and play games. Both the wealthy and the middle class can use the machines and enjoy their day. Whoever has the intention of making money through gambling has his reason for that, and ideas like that don't come from the low rollers alone. I prefer using low rollers because gambling knows no rich or poor. Because the results can be big for a low roller and small for a high roller. A poor person can decide to wager a huge amount at once, while a rich person chooses to spend a small amount for a long time. Hence in gambling no need to bother about the rich and the poor. What matters is executing the reason why we are in the casino and going for a rest.

Rich people who want to show off their wealth through gambling also have lots of losses to pay as a price. Even though they've got the properties, too many losses can affect the wealth of the person. The fact a person is rich doesn't guarantee them to waste money and not get worried whether it'll finish or not. Every gambler still has some rethink about his expenses in the casino. Whoever decides to be happy after gambling will do that, and vice versa. Sometimes, people don't only gamble out of their free will, it also reflects the type of experience they had in the workplace or at home that day, and they want to relax and cool off. If the gambler worries about his day, while gambling or has a bad experience he won't be happy while, and after gambling. People's modes are different, rich and poor. So, gambling for fun differs in terms of the feeling of the gambler before he visited the casino.

No, for that matter, we must know something and be very clear about it, casinos will always be places where they are created primarily so that they can win, and secondly to make people entertain themselves, have them have a pleasant time and where they can supposedly lose money. , because everything is based on the house advantage, it is natural that there are cases where the house advantage allows some players to have some luck and win significant sums of money, but the windows of those opportunities are very few, Normally it does not work like this, the players who risk a lot and take advantage can make profits, while there are some very moderate players who cannot risk much and cannot bet as much as they are allowed to lose, the amounts of money they are allowed to lose is equivalent to What they have in their pocket, there are many who have a percentage of their money, there are some who do not bet even 10%, others not even 1%, that depends on how you face these types of challenges.

We as gamblers know that casino games and sports betting are for adult fun, and if that is for fun, enjoy, and we should not think that this is so that people have a secure income, something like a job, something that normally The people earn on a salary or a fifteenth, because it is very risky, and the person who plays something like that that the game is to make profits and must be seen to obtain profits would be a great irresponsibility and would make any player take it as if it were a done and can make you lose money, so that is normal, that is why in a casino you are not forced to place bets, you are not forced to enter, no one is forced to play, we ourselves are the ones who assume the fact of to play, to risk money and to put everything there, for that reason we have to have a lot of restraint when it comes to playing, to avoid those false testimonies of some who have once enjoyed good luck.

A must thing or something that you do really need to do on which on the time that you do step your foot into this space or gambling field then it would really be just that right that you should really be setting a borderline on how much money that you could really be only be able to afford to lose because once you do really found yourself that getting past with those lines then you are really that
prone on making those impulsive actions. Playing for fun is really just that something that we do need to have but on the time that we are really that playing on longer periods
then these things would really be changing up along the way until you do find yourself that aiming not for the fun but rather on the money that you could possibly earn.
This is where addiction do starts.

The gambler who had the capacity for the rotation of the money from the business to the gambling site had the capacity to get entertainment from the same.The gamblers who play the gambling games without any expectation will give huge profit in the gambling site.But the gamblers who had come to the gambling by the influence of the gambler who get the huge win from the gambling site.Actually many of the new gamblers story was start with the another gambler winning in the gambling site.

Yes basically everyone is free to engage in gambling, rich or poor it doesn't matter as long as they come with money that will be used as capital with the smallest or middle or highest amount that has been applied to the minimum and maximum deposit on the gambling site, on the other hand casinos never force gamblers in terms of putting the amount to bet, all of that is optional and depends on each gambler's comfort in the matter of the amount of budget they want to allocate and healthy gamblers are those who can put the amount that suits the money they have. or I mean if they have a small income then obviously the budget allocation for gambling should also be small, and for that matter it is beyond the control of others because only they know about how much money they have, I'm not saying that rich people should put a bigger amount, and for that matter it's out of other people's control because only they know about how much they want to bet but obviously anyway it's more advisable to put an amount that we can afford to be responsible for whatever the outcome is.

That's right, in gambling everyone involved will have the same chances, especially in winning, no matter rich or poor, and also in terms of the possibility of risk occurring is also the same but maybe for the problem of the amount of defeat all gamblers will definitely be different, simply put, the defeat of the rich must be much greater than the poor because in terms of the amount of their budget is different but for the problem of bankruptcy it depends on whether they are excessive or not in gambling. Another thing for the problem of whether the financial situation will affect the pleasure of gambling activities I think it comes back to the point of view of each gambler. I think the fun that exists in a physical casino without participating in betting lies in socializing with many people because obviously there we will meet many people and maybe new things that are quite fun, enjoying drinks and chatting with other people can also be called fun.

It is not an easy thing to be able to gamble without having any expectations, I often see my friends gambling with the hope of winning on the bets they play and there are some who can enjoy winning and most of them experience losses in the gambling they do.
Those who go to gambling places influenced by the invitation of their friends who have won most of their gambling will easily become addicted, because they really want the same win as their friends so they will continue to gamble until they can experience the victory they want.

It depends on our initial goal of gambling, and we try not to think about winning from gambling because it won't be easy to get. Gamblers who come to gambling places, because they want to win, should be able to think long and hard. Many gamblers have tried, but most of them have not been able to win. We don't need to lie to ourselves if we are no longer comfortable playing gambling, so we have to end the gambling game or leave gambling forever if we think that gambling only results in more losses. We also cannot have the ambition to win gambling games and only try to enjoy every gambling game we play.

I would not talk about fun, but about interest. What fun can there be in losing money? If what we're looking for is fun, then it's better to play free games. You know that there are a huge number of free games in the world and they are very exciting and educational. For example, I love playing solitaire games, especially “Free Cells”, which are available in the Windows operating system. But people are interested in the nature of money, the nature of emotions and how they intersect with each other. They see only one side of the game, which is expressed in winnings. Winning at a money game can really be fun. But losing is never fun.

Most gamblers lose. Statistical reality, not pessimism. Hope usually leads to despair, as I've witnessed. Gambling requires a clear head and the realization that the odds are against you. Responsible gambling requires knowing when to quit.

Gambling thrills can be addicting. Casual betting can lead to addiction. I promote self-awareness and control. Gambling should be fun, not a desperate attempt to make money. Pursuing losses is a red indicator.

Personal control and industry responsibility are involved. Gambling platforms must promote safety, support problem gamblers, and assure fair play. We must demand accountability as a community. Gambling is not a cure-all.

you can't totally discard the fun/entertainment brought by gambling games. there's really fun in it if you are using spare or extra funds. but definitely, it is head hurting if you are using your money for basic expenses or taking a loan just to play your games. that's a different scenario. but you can totally have fun also if money involved doesn't matter much to you.

let us accept the fact that losing is always part of this game. you can never experienced gambling without a loss at one point. this is the reason why it is called gambling. if there is an assurance of winning every time you sit on your game, i guess, most if not all people are already into gambling, right?


that's the usual dilemma of most gamblers. they are going inside the casino for the hope of something positive will come up. however, most of the time, it won't happen. as we will experience more on the losing end of things. it is no doubt, most of us want to go home as winners not losers, but we also learn how to tell ourselves to quit for the day.

Gambling can be fun for sure, but it comes down to personal tastes - some might find it to be a complete bore or a waste of money. Then again, others will throw vast amounts of money at online streamers or buying loot boxes for virtual games, or the many other thousands of things that you might decide are fun to you. As long as you know how the odds are working in your particular game of choice, that you may very well just be "losing slowly" over a long time period with fixed odds, then there is nothing wrong with enjoying it either. Just being aware and conscious of the risks involved, while keeping your gambling under control, can be a justifiable form of entertainment for many people.

Indeed, gambling will only give us losses because losses will occur more often than wins and when we win it cannot necessarily be said to be pure profit.
We win today but the winnings will not come back tomorrow or today if we decide to continue betting, after all, if we calculate it in detail, the loss will be much greater than the amount of winnings obtained so far.
From here we must be aware that making money from gambling is not an easy thing and with this awareness we must be able to think better by considering that gambling is just place to have fun, not make money because defeat will always be guaranteed.
We must be able to have lot of considerations and understanding that can regulate every decision and activity we carry out in gambling, some people may not be able to do it, but we ourselves must start so that the losses that occur in the future are not excessive and make us regret it.
It not easy, but we have to start by having more positive approach and mindset to avoid all the bad things that could happen at any time.

Exactly those who can fund their habits are those who should and will take gambling as a fun-seeking entertainment,  but those who have nothing to persistently spend on gambling escapees won't take gambling for fun since they will have to make the winning that will keep them playing the games,  and the knowledge of that keep them in constant pursuit for winnings regardless of the fun or not, this is the set of people that could become addicted in the later part of the chase for winning,  so with that,  you see how difficult it becomes for those without adequate funding to gamble on a fan base.

To be honest, that kind of question shouldn't even have been uttered, imagine the amount of people that have been enjoying their gambling experience for a really long time and then this question popped up out of nowhere and now they don't know if they're genuine about their experience. To me though, I do think that if someone's faking their fun with gambling, they would feel it and the people around them would feel it so we don't have to be too in depth about all this stuff.

Well, actually I really understand what you said in this thread. however, it seems there is a different meaning and essence between me and you. first of all, I want to say first, what I said does not mean I am comparing. so, please understand. the title of your thread, is really very interesting to me. I will quote him, "Gambling for fun, is it a lie that we tell ourselves?". there is a big question that you seem to be struggling with, especially regarding gambling and the idea of ​​having fun. at this point, many people actually have the same questions as you think. however, both you, me, we, have different definitions regarding what gambling is. first, what does pleasure mean to you? so, what does this have to do with the gambling you do? you can answer it, but keep your answer to yourself. for me, pleasure has a broad meaning depending on how I respond to it and condition it to the situation and conditions. now, what is gambling to you? for me, gambling is expensive entertainment and contains a lot of risk. then, what allows us to have fun and get pleasure. yeah, the answer depends on each individual.

So you see, the idea of ​​having fun doesn't have to be what you mean in the title of this thread and neither does what you say in this post. before we gamble, either you or I, must first spend capital as a medium for playing and betting. at this point, you are willing and aware to do it. the question is, are you thinking about something bad instead of having fun? Of course it's not like that. besides, it doesn't mean that with the idea of ​​having fun we don't expect to win. as you said, even if you say it seems like we are lying to ourselves and this is where the difference lies. pleasure doesn't have to be winning, even in situations where you lose, you can learn lessons in the form of pleasure. for example, I bet on Arsenal "football" a team that is my favorite. then, the fact is that Arsenal lost the match.  meaning, I also lost. however, because Arsenal played the game very well, neatly and impressively, I enjoyed it even though they lost. even though I lost, psychologically I got the game I wanted and the results from the bets I made. and this, is a form of pleasure. so each gambler can define his own pleasure, and it depends on how he reacts to it. so, we don't need to lie to ourselves. regarding winning or losing, isn't that part of the risk of gambling? well, enjoy it according to your own version.

Who says gambling can't be fun? But the issue is that your mind can hinder that fun which is what most people are facing as challenges in it but believe that it is a way to make one's life miserable. And yes, this is very possible, gambling can make your life miserable if your attitude towards it and also your approach is bad. Everybody wants to make money in gambling and make it pretty fast, so I don't expect less in the gambling life of such people. Imagine, those who believe that they will hit the Jackpot so hard and get to make a fortune in gambling, if it is not happening over time, you can't expect the gambler to remain the same psychologically. They will always say ill of gambling with bad experience and will never derive pleasure in it which is one of the best parts of gambling.

It is good to gamble for the mind to make money sometimes, but this shouldn't be with the mindset of desperation, which can only lead to losses that will push the gamber into emotional gambling and the end will never be good. But for those who perhaps have their jobs and do not believe that gambling is what will make them rich, they can continue to engage in it and derive their fun. Truly, gambling is fun when you know the games to play, and you should never bet with big money that will ruin the fun for you.

It cannot be denied that most gamblers will experience loss because that is what happens to those who cannot control themselves while gambling. But if they are people who can control themselves when playing gambling, they can prevent defeat and can also prevent losing money at the gambling table. And yes, even though the thrill of gambling will still tempt them, they can still take good care of themselves and will not use more money. They will not try to pursue a win or recover from their loss.

Gambling is not to make money but to have fun and use enough money so we don't lose a lot. We must be able to control ourselves well to avoid many losses. And even though we lose when gambling, we don't feel cheated because we realize that gambling can result in losing money, and we can accept it because we gamble only with the money we can afford.

If they realize that the moment they enter the casino, everything can be a possibility, they should be able to control themselves well and limit their time and money strictly. They must not miss a single one because otherwise, they will be tempted to continue gambling and may even lose control of themselves. If that happens, they will experience more losses than they probably imagined. We can only continuously learn about self-control and practice it so that the temptation of gambling does not trap us. And whatever the outcome, we can get out of gambling without any feelings.

On the time that you do make out a deposit on a gambling site, then you should really be treating out into those amounts to be completely gone or simply vanish. Why? we do know on how risky gambling is and it is really just that right that you should be assuming that those amounts is already gone on the time that you would really be making out such deposit. It would be always better that you shouldnt really be anticipating on something on which it would really be just that right that you should be sensible and be realistic on the things that you are dealing with and not really just that making yourself that delusional. You cant really just that make yourself that too hopeful on becoming that profitable with gambling in the first place because gambling is really just that for fun but it turns out that people do goes into the opposite way on which this do leads out into disaster.

People would really be just making out realizations on the time that they had wrecked out themselves.Well, this had been always the common thing on where people would really be just
tending to look at on positive side of things without even trying to look or see into those cons too.

I do agree that fun is true, but I also think that some people focus on the money part of the deal way too much and ignore the fun part and they end up being too upset when they end up losing as well. I understand that it is not always that simple, but we should consider the fact that they are not doing all that crazy as well, it is just not that easy and we should consider them as people who should not be gambling at all.

This is of course my own opinion on people who just focus way too much on the money part, yes there is a "possibility" of people making money at gambling, depends on the game of course, but in something like sports, you may do well on the long term and they just risk way too much to make some money.


I personally do it for fun, and I can prove that by showing how much I lost every month, which is exact amount almost every month, and that means I do not really overspend on it, and not focus on the money and just focus on having fun with that amount.

people become delusional because they want to win. it's normal to want to win. what is not normal is for a person to hope to lose.

before a person gambles, he normally would hope to win. and that's exactly the goal why he deposits in the first place. we even try to look for a strategy to win because the only way to enjoy gambling is when we are winning. if you already know you are going to lose from the very start, it's best to not go on anymore and stop playing.

Gambling can be called entertainment, but only within certain limits. If a person loses his fortune, starts getting into debt, stops sleeping at night, becomes literally obsessed - what kind of entertainment is that? You could say that this is a really big problem already

It’s a known fact to all gamblers that the games are tipped in favour of the casino. A pro gambler will always check the RTP rate of the game before playing. If the house has a significant advantage that makes you uncomfortable, you can choose not to play that game and go for a more fair game. Gambling can be fun but it can also become serious business when the stakes are high, the fear of losing all you have takes away the fun and in that moment all you want is a win.

Personal perceptions matter in the gambling niche. It depends on the way we envisioned gambling before venturing into it, but it's rare to find a new gambler who didn't have at the back of his mind to win money while gambling. It was recently I read in a book that gambling is meant to be for fun. Just the same way we pay to play in a Park, gambling can give us the same pleasure. Before, then gambling was a way of making money, in my perspective. Lots of people are still on that same level of seeing gambling as a means of making money, and when they don't win, it gets them sad and pushes the player to try again immediately. Those who know or use gambling as a form of gaining fun, wouldn't figure out that other people still think of making money in gambling. Op could be among the gamblers who wouldn't accept gambling as a fun game. Because he's losing money while gambling.

However, truthfully, losing money is not always fun, especially when we lose lots of it. Hence gamblers who wish to make fun through gambling have one common peculiar characteristic, staking what they'll be able to lose and not bother about it. Unlike those seeking money, greed leads them to stake lots of money, and they end up being sad in the process of losing all of their money. So, as you said, it's for the gambler to choose sides, whether fun or sad after losing money. However, the first mentioned is better for our mental health. No need to be sad over some things we can't control. It's also a good reason gamblers shouldn't chase money, rather gamblers should be learning and taking pleasure from the outcomes of their decisions. Prioritizing money alone, as a factor of joy in gambling, can only yield a small amount of happiness in the life of the gambler. Because the losses keep coming more than the win. If Op can spend the amount he's able to lose without feeling sad, gambling wouldn't be a hassle to him.

Even though life is full with misery, we nevertheless choose to live. Why do we get out of bed in the morning and continue? In life, the likelihood of us losing is much higher than that of winning. Every day is a gamble, and life itself is like a casino. This explains why, despite our frequent "losses" and "wins," we keep going back to the sportsbook or casino. Gambling is enjoyable despite its ups and downs, just like life itself. Both life and gambling can be enjoyable if you follow the laws and lead a moral life.

I still do not find any pleasure involving myself with such a terrible situation because I am having fun that is a big lie why because there is no atom of truth in it, gambling and losing money turning it as a sleepless nights or as an issue over life making it to look as if one's life is dependent on gambling makes it far from having fun. And I think fun should be when you place a bet either win or lose the person should be able to have limits to themselves by either going home from the casino house or login off from the website to maintain a total responsibleness while gambling.

There is people who thought the more they gamble the more they make winning or the more luckier they become without knowing that gradually they are draining themselves, at this point it's no longer fun rather turns to addiction and anyone who has gotten himself or herself into addiction level it will be very hard for such person to get out of it.

I agree with what you said, gambling is fun for people who control themselves when it comes to gambling, know what they are doing and consider this game as a game, not a source of income. If you have money to support your habit and have a budget, I think you won't have any problems, win or lose, just enjoy the game, but it's even better if you win.

Gambling is for fun or entertainment but not every individual is having fun, some individuals are lying when they say they're having fun as they're not. You can't be having fun if you're losing unless you're very rich and the loss doesn't affect you. Only the rich can say they're having fun when they're losing and it'll be true as some rich people just want to get entertained at the cost of anything. Middle class individuals and poor individuals wants to make money that's why they're gambling.

I think we should be true to ourselves so we don't lose all our money in trying to make more money, if you're gambling and not having fun gambling due to the amount of money that you're losing, I think you have to stop gambling and put that money to a good use by investing in things that'll bring you more money but not take money from you. You can invest in Bitcoin and you'll make more profits during the bull market.

Indeed, people should treat gambling as a fun activity and not an activity to make money. However, this is not the case for other gamblers who still want to try to make money from gambling because they still feel they will have good luck in making money. They should be able to see that they can't do it, especially for those who have experienced a losing streak that caused them to lose a lot of money.

We don't lie to ourselves by saying that gambling is entertainment because that's what it should be. But we lie to ourselves when we say we can win in the next round even though we don't know anything and there is still a possibility that we will lose in the next round. It happens to many gamblers who do not think clearly about what gambling is and still consider gambling as a place to make money.

Yes it will be a lie to us if we get addicted on gambling and make the gambling for only one purpose for earning and also get into the greediness. So it is natural that those public will not or can not take the gambling for the purpose of entertainment. So ultimately those who we take gambling as an purpose or desire of our entertainment are always make gambling for the fun and it is not lie for them.

Those who have a lot of money and spend their money to go to the casino to get pleasure, is the way they rich people spend their money with friends to relieve stress or just joke.

But most of the poor people they throw money in the casino just to look for the possibility of multiplying money that is not expected by them, so most people think that the casino is claimed as a place to find pleasure is a hoax, but basically depending on what they use gambling to be like, has two opposite views and it is not wrong in my opinion depending on where you stand and think about gambling itself.

It's true that many people gamble with the aim of having fun, in my opinion it depends on how we respond to gambling, because many people gamble and become addicted to gambling because they can't accept the losses that have occurred so they make another deposit. and gambling again with the aim of recovering the losses that have occurred and as a result this all triggers them to become addicted to gambling and obviously, people will hide this addiction, it is impossible for anyone to reveal their gambling addiction, if there is one, maybe only a small part of it.

You are right, if you really want to make a lot of money, of course you don't have to gamble, even the money you have lost due to gambling can be calculated to be a large amount, if from the start it was spent investing in Bitcoin, you might have generated quite a bit of profit. In my opinion, some of the many gamblers are lying to themselves, not admitting their addiction even though they are addicted to gambling. they must be able to think about choosing better things by spending their money wisely.

Well, it's normal to gamble with such hope. However if that's your main goal on why you're playing, then you can't really enjoy the games because you're pressured to win since that's your goal and having losses are not fine. But if your reason to play is to kill time and to be entertained regardless of the outcome, it just shows that you are just having fun, therefore it depends on what you desire.

This is the reason why you need to condition yourself before deciding to use your money in gambling. If you can't bear the thought of facing losses when you gamble then gambling is not meant for you just to have fun.

What exactly should be the motive of someone gambling?
A lot of persons may have different opinions. However, in my opinion the right motive of gambling should actually be to win and have fun. Sometimes people fail to gain the right motive when indulging in gambling activities therefore making them in most cases lose consecutively. Many a time gambling losses are as a result of the player staking emotionally or trying to act greedy or something. And these can affect their chances of winning potentially and negatively sometimes.

Gambling in my opinion is supposed to be a form of fun .but it seems more like it isn't this days since a lot of persons are actually having zero fun and actually caring about wins only.
Sometimes physical gambling activities can even lead to violence making a lot of people talking online gambling as a safer and more fun option. Besides digital games tend to be sometimes more interesting than regular physical ones.

We have the same thoughts and upon observation, that's true that the essence of gambling is really missing, that it should give pleasure and fun at least, But in the case of what I see, what is currently happening is far from what it used to be, especially majority of gamblers only focused on winning.

Physical gambling activities is not that safe today because like what you've said, it can lead to violence to every people and worst is possible it will leads to crime. Since there's a lot of circulating news in social media nowadays about crimes in a gambling house because of misunderstanding, debt and being mentally unstable, some gamblers prefer to use online gambling apps and websites as they think it is much safer and convenient to them.

well, this is the mistake of today's gamblers who cannot think maturely and ignore how gambling works and only think that gambling is only to get money whereas when gambling first appeared it was only for gambling and the loss of this essence is due to mindset of gamblers who cannot understand all of these.
sometimes I think that the increase in the number of gamblers around the world and also the increase in addiction is almost equivalent to the increase in the development of the gambling business today and why do people think that gambling to earn money while the way gambling works is provided to provide entertainment for gamblers with a budget that can afford to lose.

but I understand this condition because the increase in  gambling business also provides an increase in advertising and many influencers broadcast live showing the games they play and always show big wins and there are lots of videos circulating about big wins that encourage the minds of weak gamblers to think if they can win. big wins from gambling so they dont think about gambling to have fun but to earn money but what is very funny is that when asked by other people what the motivation is for gambling they say to look for fun and that is a lie.

Incurring too many losses in gambling doesn't really matter to someone that has a good job and doing very well because he can play gamble without being affected if he loses so the people that sees gambling as not funful in a case of running into too many losses are people that either they don't have a job, or they earn less as a result whenever they place a bet they are always inquisitive on the game playing.

 Inasmuch much as gambling is concerned, one doesn't even need to calculate his profits and loss in gambling but rather just gamble responsibly and don't allow your gambling to affect your daily activities or make you become addicted. Though there are times when we feel so bad when we lose a bet especially when it involves a huge amount but that doesn't mean that we will feel too bad about it even if we do it's just gonna be at that material time and afterwards moves on.

Thanks for your analysis, I specially captured this sentence from your post because it really gives meaning to your perspective of fun and gambling, to you it's expensive entertainment that contains a lot of risks. I can relate to that because certain people can actually be entertained by losing their money, only I used to think that it's only the super rich people that can gamble with such a mindset, but if an average income earner can truthfully gamble without caring whether they win or lose, then it'll truly be qualified as an expensive fun. I guess that is why it's often advice that we should gamble the amount that we can afford to loose, so that the risks of having fun can be minimized.

Gambling's evolution and marketing methods are linked. These techniques generally glorify significant wins, minimizing gambling's risks. The transition from relaxation to a misleading prosperity fantasy is harmful.

Lets consider the gambler's attitude. Not only external effects, but also internal processing of these messages are the issue. Gamblers often have confirmation bias, remembering victories but forgetting losses. This misperception makes gambling seem like a good way to get money. Understanding that its a psychological trap can alter many lives.

How to proceed? I promote balanced gambling. Reeducating people that gambling should be pleasurable within one's budget is vital. Responsible gambling efforts and openness about odds and dangers might change opinions. Its about returning gambling to its original purpose - amusement, not wealth.

A person who has all these conditions and is still saying that they are gambling for fun is lying and fooling everyone, including themselves, because you can't lose everything you have when you are gambling for fun or be so obsessed with it that you don't get to sleep at night.

When you gamble for fun, you have a budget for your gambling activities, and that budget comes from an income source that you have which means that you are earning more money than you are spending on your gambling activities, and if that isn't the case, you are not gambling for fun.

Only people who are disciplined enough to have self-control and patience to stay within their limits can enjoy gambling and have no remorse for their losses, and all others, spend most of their time thinking about their gambling losses and possible ways to recover them.

Balanced gambling is something that would really be that recommended but we do know that this isnt something that you could really be able to make yourself that able to follow with that principle but instead you would really be focusing or putting up yourself into those things which would pertain about on how to make money and would really be totally forgetting that gambling should really just that for fun.
This isnt already shocking or surprising for someone to commit out such action because we humans are naturally greedy.We would really be focusing on the things that we do saw that it could give us out
the potential on making money and wont really be matter on the risks involved through it.This is why i do agree on the thing that you've said that no matter how many losses that he would be able to encounter,
but with just few wins then all of those frustrations and anger would be wiped away or would be totally forgotten and here comes again the another cycle and it would continue further more.

Gambling should really be for fun but people do mainly be failing out on sticking into that principle specially that you do saw that money making or earning could be possible through this.
On the time that you would really be molding up this kind of impression, then this is where things turns out to be shit.

Losing is losing, no matter how much the amount you can afford to lose and how much you have actually gambled, there's no difference.
Because it's still the same that you're going to lose if you are thinking you're fun to lose it.
But I wouldn't just accept that I'll be losing it, I'll fight for it until the last bet that I can make, well, that's the kind of fun many of us like, don't we?

You're right, that's the fun of gambling even if we lose we still fight, we still hope to come back and get the money back. Even if you lose and that loss is budgeted, maybe it doesn't hurt you that's why it's budgeted because you're ready to lose but you still fight. Gambling is entertaining, just avoid getting addicted to it.

Gambling should really be for fun
Gambling shouldnt really be make as a source of income
Gambling shoudlnt be stressful
Gambling shouldnt really make you that desperate
Gambling shoudnt really mess up your finances.

As long you do have that kind of control then you wont really be finding yourself on such trouble in speaking about gambling risks. As long you are really just that playing for fun
then you wont really be finding up yourself on any potential trouble. Then this should really be a must thing on the time that you do touch
up gambling.

Gambling is only for entertainment if you come with a lot of boundaries and also by not gambling too often then I would say the gambling you do is fun or something that can be quite entertaining when you have free time, but otherwise if you consider that this activity is entertainment but you yourself gamble too often or even excessively then obviously it doesn't make sense and maybe I would say that your goal is to win. On the other hand obviously as you said gambling is all about winning and losing and with that means if you get involved then you have to be prepared for both outcomes.

If you can't accept losing then that means I'd have to call you one of those gamblers who hopes to win and can't accept losing especially if you're fighting for something that basically has no guarantees and no certainty.

There's something romantic about trying something against the odds, but in terms of games with a mathematically known house edge, people just count on their luck most of the time.
For things like sports betting, where odds are judgmental, the appeal is to prove you know better than bookies and to take advantage of what you believe are misplaced odds. That's at least how it works for me.


These 2 things are not mutually exclusive. Making money can be fun on its own.

The point is gamble is entertaining but what it involves is money which you either lose or gain. So the reality is how someone feels when they lose of course sad, and I have not seen someone who win that is not happy. Therefore, if a winner is happy because he won then that means he would have been unhappy because he lost and his life system would have totally changed at least at the moment and depending on how much he has lost. However, what I understand is that gambling is majorly a luck gaming.

People can be a bit more complex than win=happy; lose=unhappy.
From own experience, I bet more than I was willing to lose on a dice roll with a high chance of winning and won, or I made silly bluff in a poker game and won a hand, but I was not happy at all but rather disappointed at myself for I knew that was not a smart thing to do was a result of lack of self-discipline.

If you’ve got the money to comfortably fund your habit, it could be considered fun and entertaining but when you don’t have the money to comfortably do so, it suddenly doesn’t becomes fun or entertaining anymore. That’s just the way it is.
People that has money to fund their gambling activities would find it entertaining and when they play and either win or lose, it doesn’t affect them in the slightest as they’ve got money to comfortably afford to gamble. I would say it doesn’t fun when there isn’t much money to comfortably play.

I believe that for some people, gambling becomes a serious matter when they lose a significant amount of money, and it no longer remains a form of entertainment. However, there are still those who view gambling as a form of leisure, akin to playing cards with friends, right? Sometimes there's a bit of disagreement or discomfort, but ultimately, it brings a certain joy.

I think the key here is to control emotions and set a specific amount of money to engage in the activity. When playing with a small amount, it still provides a certain thrill, and if you lose, it's not devastating because the lost amount is manageable, and in return, you've had an enjoyable gaming experience. On the other hand, with a large sum, it can sometimes go beyond your control, making it hard to find joy, and the pressure is immense from the start. Therefore, in my opinion, gambling remains enjoyable for those who know their limits and can control their emotions.

Maybe it's a lie to those who say they only gamble for fun; at least somehow they also have in mind that they hope to win before the end of their fun. Though that wasn't really their main motive in the beginning,.

I play gambling for fun and entertainment, really. But it never crossed my mind that I hoped to win somehow; though, I can't deny that the feeling of winning when playing gambling

Sometimes there are still people who don't believe that someone plays gambling for fun and is just for entertainment so it is always questioned, even though there are people who are like that, not because they are rich but they realize that the dealer will always win even though we have skills. As good as it is, the point is to change the mindset that gambling is just entertainment, not a place to seek instant wealth.

Gamblers who still use this mindset usually tend to become addicted to gambling easily because they will not accept defeat gracefully like gamblers who see it as entertainment. It is true that no one hides their feelings of joy when they feel they have won, but they will not consider it something they are looking for. let alone being hunted for gambling but considering it as just a bonus.

We can't say gambling for entertainment or fun is a lie as we don't know what other individuals reasons for gambling are about. Individually we might be gambling as we want to make money but to others it mightn't be the reason they're gambling. Money isn't a problem for every individual, some have it to their satisfaction and some have it to an extend that they won't have to work for money or try to double the ones they already have. I know of people that are on weekly allowance and gamble without thinking of money.

Gambling is use for many reasons by different individuals but making money is one of the highest reasons why many individuals gamble and this is the reason we think every individual we see gambling is doing it so they can make money. Some of them just want to have some entertainment as  gambling gives them that feeling therefore we shouldn't think that some individuals are lying when they say they're gambling for fun.

There's only just two possible reasons which it is really just that for fun or for money. People usually be changing up those thoughts midway specially into those who do really have those kind of greed inside
on which we know that not all people would really be having that good control towards themselves when it comes to this aspect on which there would really be those people who would really be just that simply be changing up their thoughts and targets instantly on the time that their greed would kick in. Its true that we do really lie to ourselves that we are really just that playing gambling for luck and entertainment but deep inside
they are really that aiming for making huge money or profits. Who doesnt really like that? It is really just that there are people who can and cant control their emotions.

This is where people do usually mess up on the time that they arent making those sensible actions on which they are really that doing it excessively and they do really able to keep
themselves getting blind until they do wreck themselves.

If you're enjoying the thrill and excitement while gambling, do you still consider it as lying to yourself?
We gamble to win, but there are also people who gamble to enjoy their time and have fun or bond with their friends.
When we enter gambling we should all be aware that there is a chance that we would lose, even if you think that the chance of losing is too small don't expect to win every time.

Victory and joy, defeat and sadness are the circumstantial couples in this situation, of course, failures can also be mixed with joy but it is not possible for everyone, when there is some emotional stimulation, mostly let the spirit go down significantly after a few losses, unable to maintain the essence of joy when something related to money, clearly comforting is just a gentle gesture to avoid further trouble. To achieve the criteria of fun and evaporate boredom, the bet level should be minimized, even extremely low, it will harmonize everything, instead of lying to deceive yourself

We do have different reasons why we gamble and that reason could be the cause why we are not having fun with gambling. We gamble because we just wanna chill and have fun the it is good but if we gamble because we want to gain income or whatsoever related to this, I think things will never be the same anymore. For irresponsible gamblers, having fun in gambling is a lie. 😅

Gambling for fun can be true but I think it's based on the kind of activities been done as gambling, it will be easier to gamble for fun in a local settings were people are getting entertainment from the activities of the gambling, such as a local wresting contests which is common in some countries but going to a casino the idea changes.

In some countries setting, a local wresting could be set between animals or humans and it can be seen as a form of entertainment and stakes can be placed on them and the excitement of the whole activity could get you not feeling like you gambling because the excitement from the entertainment is more but at the casino it's more of business than entertainment and so the emotions there are even higher with much tension due to what's at stake. So gambling can actually be done for fun but it has to be contextual, some wealthy people actually gamble for fun regardless of the context

You spit nothing but the fact about gambling talk everyone is afraid to say but then you generalized it. You can't say because other people that are after making money from gambling have more loses than profits and you generalized it for everyone. If that's true for everyone, I think a lot of people will say that gambling is nothing but a gambling scheme and even the government will disapprove it because they frown at anything that is scam but they don't because people are really making money from gambling if we take away the fun we often describe gambling. This year, I have seen a person that has become a millionaire through gambling and I have seen people that have loss in some games this year, so it's nothing new but that doesn't mean everyone has more loss than profits.


I don't know about you though but I can look into my team and bet amount that wouldn't make me feel I gamble and I will never feel any remorseful of what comes after. We all have that amount we can afford to lose but it's relative to one another and trust me, even when money is the major reason why people bets, I have seen people gambling for the live of their team. A fan can be angry for the failure of his team because he can't brag but wouldn't react if he lost his bets.

I don’t think gambling is fun for everyone because mostly people’s playing game to make profits, So it's not fun from everyone's point of view, who guys are addicted in gambling definitely it will not be fun for them, because you know many people commit suicide after
loosing big amount of money in gambling, if they had taken it as fun, they would not have committed suicide. Personally, i'm not regular in gambling, sometimes i have fund then i will deposit a little bit for gambling which is affordable, if i lose it then i will not be affected, it’s always fun purposes to me.

When someone already has the intuition to gamble to win, that's when they won't perceive gambling as fun but instead, they will prefer to calculate the losses they have been occurring in gambling since the beginning of the week, or months.

It is so saddening that many people have misunderstood the concept of gambling for fun in the first place. which now makes them feel hurt by any of their losses in gambling because they intend to win and not lose.

Since the mindset was to win,  they kept betting, believing they would win big someday, which normally ends up making them addicted gamblers

What you mean seems to be more directed at most gamblers these days especially about the purpose of their arrival at gambling, I quite agree with that statement because on the other hand I have seen enough evidence that many gamblers have fallen down and lost many of their valuable assets just because of gambling, if indeed gambling is for fun then would they be that desperate just to get pleasure? while on the other hand there is still quite a lot of fun without risk? for this problem obviously only they know and maybe here we can only predict with a little conclusion about their purpose of gambling.

On the other hand you have also said one other evidence is that it is not uncommon for me to see information from the news that shows gamblers who end up ending their lives, one of the reasons that makes sense is because they are unable to withstand all the pressure from the risks involved in gambling that they have experienced.

Yes, it's better not to focus too  much on gambling, you can come if you have a little money and without coercion from anyone without putting any expectations for the results at the end of the session. in my opinion it's better because then I'm sure you will feel more comfortable  and safe.

       -   You know, whether we admit it or not, that there are actually other gamblers who gamble just to forget their problems for a while. Gambling can be used as a form of entertainment from the many problems they are thinking about.

In short, the casino or gambling for them can provide emotional relief, and for me, there is no problem if that is what it causes to a gambler who has future problems. But most gamblers actually play because they want to make a profit here, no one else. That's why other players become greedy, right?

Those of us who gamble should be able to get pleasure from gambling, but somehow, it makes us lose direction by using more and more money just because we want to chase the wins we previously got. The goal of having fun is easily replaced by the desire to win again when that won't always happen. We become more greedy after getting the previous win, making us willing to use all the money in our gambling account. We don't remember that we should have had enough of gambling, so we have to finish it immediately before we run out of all the money. And it's true that if we say we're having fun gambling but we run out of money, it's the same as lying to ourselves. And I've experienced it before.

We just want our money back but we won't even lose in the first place if we didn't gambled at all.
That's how it goes and we need to take budget for our bankroll so that we're not just going to lose it easily and that's how it will be managed.
It is entertaining when you have planned it all along and then in the end, you lose and had fun.  ::)

It's like when we play at the mall, buy coins and then play several games, even if we don't get tickets to exchange for prizes, we always accept the disappointment and the game is still fun. I apply that to gambling even though losing in a row is still not fun but some casinos are quite fun to play if we can judge it like that I'm sure we're not lying in saying it's fun. At least our losses don't make us the same as the gambling addicts there.

What gamblers feel about gambling is not expected to be the same, due to the need that led a person to participate in gambling. It's not to be a general problem, like Op thought. The goal of gamblers in some age brackets would be for money, while others thinks it's fun, and the rest only play to master strategies that can be implemented in life. Although those who play for money have a big PR and are populous. Casinos also use their PR to create more awareness about the business and yield more customers. If a gambler is for the fun, he'll get it and enjoy his money while gambling. Anxiety only erupts when the gambler is after money and doesn't enjoy his money. Because it's as if he's paying to earn more money or investing his money for more profits. They see gambling as a business and end up feeling that those who enjoy gambling for fun are not or lying about it. I'd conclude that it's just a misunderstanding.

It is still very possible that there is fun even when you have a high chance of losing your bet. Because maybe the person who is gambling enjoys taking huge risks and derives joy from it. However, I don’t really really believe in gambling for fun. I understand it, but I don’t trust nor believe in it. To gamble for fun (in the way it’s always been said), you need to have self control. I’m saying this because you can start off by using tiny amount of money just because you enjoy winning, but then the human nature comes in. Your mind could question you as to why you aren’t staking more since you’re doing really well at the prediction, and from the moment you fall for it (the average human will likely fall, IMO), it’s no more for fun, you want to make money.

If the gambler consider the gambling for the entertainment,their loss of the money also doesn’t affect him.It also allow the gambler to avoid of the gambling without any emotional distress in the game.So finally the gambler will get more chance of the winning due to play the fair game in the gambling site.The gambler only know this fact that the gamblers who play the game with the idea to win the game,he will not win at the end.The reason was the emotional interference of the game at the losing the entire dollars or make the gambler to get stress at the small dollar of the loss of money at the initial stage of the game in gambling site.

In gambling we don't expect having the statistics of gambling especially the winning aspect to be higher than the losing part of gambling, its very obvious that gambling have to do with different ways and you have to know the measures that is suitable for you before you venture into gambling because when you don't have a budget for gambling you will end up using your savings for gambling, many people today never cross check their last year expenses in gambling and their last year profit in gambling, so many people do say that its not necessary to make such statistics of gambling annually

That's right, viewing gambling as entertaining will make our minds more comfortable. We are not affected by psychology, if we win we get money, if we lose it's okay.
Emotions are very important in gambling. I feel smarter when I gamble with a relaxed mentality and foolish when I impose victory on that bet. At that time, I no longer thought about the strategy to play that game well, to win. At that time, I felt we gamble with emotions, leading to a higher loss rate. The best way is to stop playing at that time so that when your mind is clear, it is not too late to play.

Don't believed at these people who are claiming they are only gambling for fun. They didn't realized that even they only lose a small amount on that day, those losses are increasing day by day. It's not fun to lose. It's not fun to always lose. It's not fun to have a losing streak consistently.

Instead, make our gambling serious and focus on how to win. If playing on games based on luck, focus on bankroll management.

It's good to have fun while winning. Can't imagine these are some people that after a loss, they will say they will just gambling for fun so it's ok to lose but deep inside they are in regret and dissapointment to not experience even a big win.

I played for fun for a few years, and I kept track of every single loss I incurred for that time period. It never really mattered to me, as the money I have used on those two years, I consider disposable and can be earned easily. I only played in the casino because I somehow 'need' to kill time during the weekends, and gambling has helped me achieved that goal somehow. Eventually, I stopped gambling regularly and focused on trying to get some profits off of this activity that used to be 'fun' for me.

There are people like me who really gamble/gambled for fun, and most of us have our finances checked and only see gambling as something to entertain ourselves.

I think this depend on the money they have if they are rich people losing any amount of money to gamble will not be a problem because the goal is to have fun while enjoying drinking with friends. Whereas for those who have barely enough money and lose large amounts of money I'm sure the fun will turn into a serious problem, basically gambling is created to have fun, but for those who have just enough money, they tend to rack their brains so that they can use it for gambling because who knows, their money will double even though they should have realized from the start that it's fun from the start it will turn into disappointment if they don't get the result they expect.

Yes, I agree with what you said, that the main key for us to still have fun and enjoying gambling is to set limits that we can afford, we can still win if we are lucky, even with less money, and we can still have fun without having to experience a lot greater pressure or risks of defeated.

that means you really enjoy the gambling you have. and the losses you suffer will not have an impact on your finances.
Gamblers should be like that, but we cannot deny that there are quite a lot of gamblers who are more obsessed with making money from gambling than having fun.
I personally have felt that I had to win in a bet, because of certain circumstances. Thankfully it worked, but it didn't make me use gambling as a place to make money.

I do believe that we are going to end up with someone with a lot of different approach, like one day he is gambling for fun, another day gambling for money, it is not going to be the same at all times. But, there are also some people who gamble for fun and that's it, they never gamble for money and they only do it for fun or there are people who gamble for money and not for fun at all and they end up losing a lot of money and still try to recover that and not for fun at all.

So, it is not easy to put all the people in to one label, there are so many people in the world and that many opinions on gambling as well for each person, we can't just say one thing about ALL the people in the world, it would be wrong for so many people, while being right about a few.

I said it wasn't a lie. we are not kids who watch cartoons anymore. if you ask what entertainment is for adults and what do we discuss among our friends? Of course, gambling is one of the ways we have fun. As long as we haven't become addicts, we still have common sense and can still control how to go gambling in our free time, there is always fun. unless we consider this is the main job to earn money, how many people I have even seen are in debt because of gambling. They take this kind of game too seriously which should be used for entertainment and fun.

as I said before, this is only about the mindset of the gamblers, if they understand and consider this to be just entertainment, they will never get worse because they really understand what risks they will get and what they must avoid so as not to get the risk is too big. well, if gamblers can have a mindset like this, they will definitely ignore any negative things and any temptations in gambling, they will still be able to control themselves and hold tightly to their commitment to continue to be safe gamblers and only test their luck with small amounts and always consider this is just a moment of entertainment.

but even so, most gamblers always think that gambling is to get a win or profit and I really understand this condition because anyone can be tempted and lose control and change into a bad mindset of hoping for a profit because we bet using money and no one can capable of losing his money and when tempted by a winning streak a gambler loses control and turns to a greedy mindset and will end up losing all his winnings as well as his budget.
a mature mindset is very important in gambling and we must understand this if we want to continue to be safe gamblers and always be able to enjoy every betting session.

I can explain this in a way that I think everyone can understand, because we did it, when the PS First came out , we Played , and if we didn't have our Own PS then what we did was go play in those places. to pay by the hour and that sometimes gave us a lot of Happiness and even so we became more experts at playing, of course the bears are Quite good when it comes to this Type of Games , now When we are in a Casino , we know the Duration of the The number of games is not the same as that of a PS, but it can be considered that many people can go and play just for Fun and it does not Matter to them how much they spend , if they are a very wealthy person then it Does not matter to them to spend a lot , if they are a person who has Little money or that it is from a somewhat low or Average economy because one takes more care of one's money, even if the person can Afford to Play with little money, make sure that if he Loses he still assumes his Defeat , but if he Wins, the Things change a lot.

So I think that the core of all this is that Bears can be Different , because when there are other interests involved things can manifest themselves in other ways, that is, if there are things that give hope to the people of the game and of to win and increase their money, because they will always be there, a clear example is the person who Always Plays in Raffle lotteries , they Always have the same hope that they can win and that is something that Cannot be taken away from them, they will always defend that position and it is something Respectable , I don't think there is any other way of looking at it better than that, so the Difference must always be made with Respect to it, I think that things are not always about doing them well , because the Best has to be Considered , To establish things , I would say that when a person plays in a casino they will always imagine themselves winning all the time and under any Circumstances , I do not see that a person enters with Negative factors to lose.

Gamblers don't feel the same when they gamble, and that's because they use different gambling games, so they get different experiences. But when they lose, it is the same as losing money at the gambling table, and even though they try to recover their losses, it will not be easy for them, and they can experience even bigger losses. Those who really aim to make money from the moment they start gambling will probably experience more losses than other gamblers because gambling is not a place to make money but just to have fun. Gamblers should be able to choose to have fun rather than win because there is uncertainty about when they can get that win. It is also true that those of us who have lost at gambling are lying if we have enjoyed gambling, and that is what is experienced by those who try to chase their winnings. But those who really aim to have fun from gambling just feel the pleasure and don't think much about the losses they experience because that is the risk of gambling.

Yes if you are a gambler then you need to emphasize to yourself that gambling is "one" way for you to get pleasure and not "the only way to get pleasure" why is that? because obviously it's not uncommon for me to see lately a change in mindset and perspective happening unconsciously, or I mean someone who initially only focused on gambling for pleasure but because they made gambling the "only way to find pleasure" then obviously it has the potential for a change in mindset so maybe you already know what will happen when someone becomes more serious in their gambling involvement, no longer pleasure but always trying to recover the situation to break even.

That means that we still have to be very careful and also be more assertive in applying some boundaries and self-control, it is not impossible because the possibility for worse things will still remain in gambling in addition to the many temptations that are there that can clearly make us fall slowly without realizing it.

Some games can be more fun and exciting than others. But I think it important to remember that losing money can feel the same no matter what game you are playing.
Some gamblers try to get back the money they lost but this can lose more money. It is important for people to know that gambling always has a chance of losing money no matter what game they play or why they play it.
Gambling can be fun but it is important to be careful and nevet lose too much money which may effect on you personal life or on you mental health.

Because of that impossibility pf having a higher winning rtuo vs the loses that the reason why it necessary to gamble with the mindset that you lose and lose,  then win +lose which is why we have advocated for responsible gambling and for that to happen a gambler must first of all have the mindset of gambling just for fun and not the winning at all time,  winning os part of gambling but the ability to understand the house edge is what makes you a smart gambler.

Some take gambling as win at all time event,  meanwhile in reality it not so and those who have such mindset are always disappointed in the end when they imagination fails to come to reality,  one they record loses more than their win at some point in time.

no problem at all. I am ready to lose the amount that I bet on the bet. I wrote about a similar situation in another topic. I prefer betting on sports events and depending on whether my favorite teams are playing, I can place a bet and it will not be a big disappointment for me when the bet is not will play, it’s just a hobby. There are periods when teams don’t play during the season (training/holidays) and at that moment I have no thirst for bets.
So yes, there are people who take gambling very calmly if they don’t place big bets.

Gambling is really fun for those who don't take it very serious every game must end up to be wins, when you understand that gambling is all about lose and win, because of how unpredictable the results is you wouldn't want to invest more than you can't afford.  When you take gambling as hustle, it won't be seen as something funny for you, it will be expected that every game must end up to be win. For gambling to be seen as fun for gamblers they need  to build their mindset not to see trading as a source of income,  with this their won't be any emotions attached to it even if their is a lose.

Gambling for fun is an honet lie we tell ourselves just to get going and satisfy our conscience to the degree to which it keeps us comfortable and allows for us continue indulging until a possible win is achieved.

There is and has not been anyone who gambles without the expectation of winning, irrespective of how much was used to gamble. If then the reason for gambling is to win then what jusitifis it as fun, nothing but self deceit.

Doing this together with our friends is more fun but if we did solely, that tends to change our mindset and we think about winning.
Well, I can admit that not all the time I'm happy especially when losing, I get mad but still I never blame anyone or even myself, I accept it as I understand what gambling is all about.

I couldn't pretend but still, I consider gambling as entertainment which means I'm doing this for pleasure rather than with the intention to win. If I get lucky then it is great but if I lose, it is still okay. 

Losing money is never funny, depending on what we spent the money on, and how important it'll be to the growth of the person economically. That's the main reason people are told to learn money management through gambling. Because we all have lots of games to participate in gambling. Hence the way we think shouldn't be considered similar, as the motive ain't the same. But, a gambler who possess some money management skill, he'd be able to utilize it while gambling, and on the real life business. Not everybody will ever get the fun via gambling. Some gamblers who understands the purpose of gambling. Don't need to rush to stake games in gambling. Monitoring every move we make in gambling, helps us to learn, while others are bothered about their lost money. The authority has been handed to the player, to decide how he wants to gamble. And nobody should complain about, how he's feeling, when the game get void. Happy or sad.

The fact that we are losing money should not be a problem for those who argue that they play just for fun.
Think of it this way....

When you go to a football stadium, when you go to watch a film at the cinema, or when you join a club and pay a certain amount each month to use the swimming pool, sports or golf courts, etc... you do not pay for that?

The fact of "spending" money on something that gives you pleasure is completely justifiable, and you should see gambling in the same way.... I spend money on gambling because I feel good when I'm playing.

The only thing that changes in gambling is that we have the "possibility" of getting back the money we spend, in some cases even more than we spent, but the main objective is not that but spending money to have fun.

The problem is when people spend a lot more money than they should to get that fun. Would you pay $1,000 to watch a movie at the cinema? I amnot. But there are those who spend to feel the adrenaline in a single bet. This is not fun

Looking at your calculations alone, you can see that gambling is not just for the winning alone; both the winning and the fun contribute massively to why people gamble.
 
If I'm gambling and over 10–20 times I gamble within a week or month, I happen to lose more often and no profit is being made, then I will have to leave the game and focus on other things. The fun in the gambling is what will keep me going, if not in a business sense. Such spending without getting anything in return should be avoided.
 
To avoid chasing losses is part of responsible gambling, and keeping our emotions under watch is all part of it. If fun is not in play and all we see is how to make profit, we might cross the line and turn ourselves into addicts.

Fun is something that you should really be that minding on and not on the money that it could give because on the time that you would really be that having those kind of impressions then it would really be just that making you that desperate and this is something that wont really be  that good. It is really just that there are people who do have those kind of change of impressions on the time that they would really be playing on which they would really be having that kind of impressions and this is where shit things do really start to happen on which on the time that you are really that making yourself blind and you would really be starting on messing up your finances as you do go further ahead and this is something that just very common in every gambler.

With all the explanations and replies above, i hope people will realize that gambling is not for winning. The longer you gamble, the greater your losses. That's why gambling is labeled sometimes as a form of entertainment for this reasons that it's for you to have fun and pay ^(bet) the service you choose. Although people win, it is considered as lucky if they win or stopped the game and go home with a win.

People come in all kinds of characters, but everyone is the same when asked about money, which is to spin money to generate more value even though sometimes it runs out or gets stuck on a simple gambling game.

Some aspects of our lives involve gambling. Spending money, buying something is consumable and buying again even though we realize the money is used or only for necessities and do not expect significant benefits.

I hold the view that games and gambling do not always have to have more results, if there are results going home, also if the mood and circumstances are not in favor, I divert other pleasures, why force it. I don't hide behind the word fun just for greed or a short way of thinking to multiply money, and not also because instead of scapegoating fun when defeat comes.

What you said in your first sentence is not entirely true. I understand that what you said will be the mentality in that case however, I don’t believe that it’ll be the case. Who derives joy from losing their money? I think that even if you are staking a tiny amount of money, you still feel somehow that you are losing and maybe you need to stop because it’s not getting any more interesting. Or maybe let me ask, can someone who is “playing for fun” play with $1 and lose 50 times and still enjoys the game? The money lost is not fun, at all.

Pretty much all I have been doing lately is gambling for FUN lol... Jokes aside (it's the name of the crypto gambling token), I feel that as long as you limit yourself to gambling with what you can afford to lose, and don't expect to win every time so that it doesn't affect your mood for thigs outside of gambling, you should be fine. Now, if it was as easy to actually abide by these principles as it is to talk about them, guess we would not have any addicts in this world lol

There are many ways that casinos use the strategy to break your principles even if you win and rush to log out. I ever intended to stop if I won $100 and withdraw the profit soon. But, I don't know what happened to all my profit (won $100) and lose. I didn't even stop after reached the winning, there are something like a magical whisper to keep me playing. that very insane, because I can't hear anything after my money's gone  ;D. it is very difficult to maintain principles if you gambler because the habit bring you to bet until the button can't be pressed.

That's true because whatever gambling game we play, if we lose, it will feel the same. Our money will be lost at the gambling table, and we will not be able to easily get our money back even if we gamble longer and use more money. We must know that the chance of losing money will become greater if we do not immediately stop gambling. Many people have experienced losing money from various types of gambling games, so we must try to prevent that from happening to us. If we lose too much money, we can only regret it because recovering from the loss will not be easy, and there is a possibility that we will lose even more money.

Losing money will make us feel sad and regretful, especially if we use a lot of money to gamble and lose all the money. But the feeling of sadness is only temporary because another day, we will definitely return to gambling and maybe spend even more money. Indeed, it would be a lie if we regretted it even though we have said that gambling is entertainment. Perhaps we should learn to reduce the amount of money and start treating gambling as entertainment so that if we lose, it is an amount of money that we can afford. We also shouldn't complain if we have experienced loss, especially if it is a lot of losses, because we already know that it is a risk in gambling, so we must be able to accept whatever the result is.

It's true that people gamble for fun, they entertain themselves while gambling. But the question is if they keep losing money over a period of time, for example in one month, will they still consider it as having fun? Or will The fun diminish as a result of constant loses? The answer will determine whether the purpose of gambling is solely for fun or if winning is a factor that motivates them to keep coming back to gamble. So my point is that although most people gamble for fun, but without winning money, the gambling can become boring. In that case despite the fun derived in gambling, it'll not be worth enjoying without winning money.

Gambling and fun winning all amount to one place. Most times, we even lie to ourselves and say that we are still continuing to gamble because we are enjoying the game while we have left the fun part and are now chasing losses. It happens most times without even the gambler knowing.
 
Sometimes there is one tricky thing some casinos do: after you have made some winnings and profit has been added to your initial deposit, the moment you try to withdraw, you will experience some sort of delay in withdrawal.
 
As you might try to wait a little longer, you might also be tempted to try again if you can increase the amount, but this time around you might end up losing it all up to the casino and you might be left with nothing, which if you don't hold yourself down, you might end up doing another deposit to the account. By that time, you are no longer gambling within your limit.

You are not alone my friend :D casinos really have a formula that can be said to be very powerful to keep gamblers there before the money runs out in each session, I don't know what happens but you also feel that it is really very difficult to get out even though you have managed to get a decent win, like you said even though you have reached the target of $100 you want but it all feels unfinished, like there is a whisper that goes into the ear telling us to stay there.

On the other hand, I'm sure that's the whisper of greed
 that always comes when we are lucky enough in one of our sessions haha, although maybe you are one of those people who are instigated to continue because of greed but I think it's normal because almost every gambler experiences scenarios like this including me too. Honestly for myself when I am a little aware that greed is starting to appear in my mind then usually I like to think for a moment and promise myself that if I lose I will not regret it too much, like for example I brought $10 capital and got a win to $100 and if indeed at that time all the winnings were lost because of greed then I always try to remember that I "only lost $10 not $100" just think that the victory I got earlier was just a passing wind.  :D