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Title: Woes of gambling
Post by: Bill buffalo on January 08, 2024, 01:37:53 PM
Take casino games for example especially jackpot casino games there is no way you can tell me that all of them are structured in such a way that they randomly always make money for the house if you ask me gambling is a fraud that has been used to trick people into believing that their choices matter it does not everyone that gambles is just there to make money for the casino unfortunately there is nothing that can be done about human nature 💔💔💔


Title: Re: Woes of gambling
Post by: I_Anime on January 08, 2024, 01:51:29 PM
I'm pretty sure most people knew that already but you know gambling is not something that guarantee you getting rich any way. But there's a reason they called it jackpot. You know gambling all about luck or that you might be lucky enough to hit the jackpot that can cover the funds gambling have eaten from you. Come to think of it if everyone is winning how will the casino pay. Through those losses most casino normally use to pay for others wins. Aslong there's winner they will always be losers.


Title: Re: Woes of gambling
Post by: Sim_card on January 08, 2024, 01:59:28 PM
Take casino games for example especially jackpot casino games there is no way you can tell me that all of them are structured in such a way that they randomly always make money for the house if you ask me gambling is a fraud that has been used to trick people into believing that their choices matter it does not everyone that gambles is just there to make money for the casino unfortunately there is nothing that can be done about human nature 💔💔💔
If you know that gambling is a means of fraud, and casino are using this to extort money from gamblers, why are you still gambling, you can just quit gambling finally, so that you don't become their victim anymore. However, I disagree with you on that statement because, I have seen a lot of gamblers that won big and their money was given to them. Gambling is known as try your luck and if you think that you are capable of winning, you can try your luck, and this should be done for fun and not because you want use it as an advantage to make money, if so, you got it wrong. There are some casinos that are out there to scam people and such casinos don't last as they will always deprive gamblers from their win. It is hard to win more than you lose and put that in your mind.


Title: Re: Woes of gambling
Post by: Gozie51 on January 08, 2024, 02:03:21 PM
I'm not sure the point you are trying to make because of the contradiction at the middle part of your post but I believe gambling is not a guarantee for riches and the house always has better winning chances than the player. You also need to understand that you have to gamble with the money you can afford to lose whether in online casino or offline and that is how you can be satisfied in your games whether lose or profit.


Title: Re: Woes of gambling
Post by: dimonstration on January 08, 2024, 02:07:52 PM
Take casino games for example especially jackpot casino games there is no way you can tell me that all of them are structured in such a way that they randomly always make money for the house if you ask me gambling is a fraud that has been used to trick people into believing that their choices matter it does not everyone that gambles is just there to make money for the casino unfortunately there is nothing that can be done about human nature 💔💔💔


I suggest that you should read the Responsible Gambling terms to educate you properly what is gambling for. Casino never trick players just make them play but rather player itself creates a delusion that can win the jackpot whenever they play that’s why they keep coming back.

Casino is not an income generator but rather a service that provides entertainment through gambling. There’s really no way to beat them or continuously get profit since all their games has a house edge advantage which guarantees casino profits even if they pay a jackpot prize to one user.


Title: Re: Woes of gambling
Post by: Aanuoluwatofunmi on January 08, 2024, 02:09:16 PM
Take casino games for example especially jackpot casino games there is no way you can tell me that all of them are structured in such a way that they randomly always make money for the house if you ask me gambling is a fraud that has been used to trick people into believing that their choices matter it does not everyone that gambles is just there to make money for the casino unfortunately there is nothing that can be done about human nature 💔💔💔

Don't give yourself heart attack when the whole thing is very easy and simple to understand, no one is enforcing gambling on anyone, you make a choice by desiring to use your money to gamble and get entertained having lots of fun, isn't that alone enough for your justice, what else do you want or have to gain in convincing others about what gambling is, can you just imagine the numbers of gamblers across the world to the numbers of those enjoying it and those not, that alone could explain to you why it will always be and can never be a cheat on people, you're too minded on loosing than winning and that's part of what makes you to be reasoning like this.


Title: Re: Woes of gambling
Post by: Fivestar4everMVP on January 08, 2024, 02:23:10 PM
First, I will advice you learn to use punctuation where appropriate, in your posts, comments, so that your readers will find it easy to understand your message easily.

And back to your claim, that gambling is a scam, well, i do not think that gambling is really a scam, but I guess you are just as entitled to your opinion as my very self.
Gambling has made alot of persons millionaires, same it has also rekted some people, the real deal in gambling is, knowing your game and how to gamble  strategically and responsibly.

And beside, would be nice to know as well that gambling is not necessarily for everyone, nobody is forced to gamble, if you believe it's a scam, then thats your opinion, which I believe I don't have to believe, right..? Yah.


Title: Re: Woes of gambling
Post by: passwordnow on January 08, 2024, 02:23:16 PM
Take casino games for example especially jackpot casino games there is no way you can tell me that all of them are structured in such a way that they randomly always make money for the house if you ask me gambling is a fraud that has been used to trick people into believing that their choices matter it does not everyone that gambles is just there to make money for the casino unfortunately there is nothing that can be done about human nature 💔💔💔
I don't understand where you are coming from with saying that casinos or gambling itself is a fraud. Casinos and gambling are businesses and if you see people that don't make money from it, remind them that they should control themselves and don't gamble a lot with their hard-earned money. If you think that many have been tricked, it's because we're thinking that we can win all of the money that is coming from these casinos.

There have been a lot of threads already about gambling and people who are misled by their thoughts about it. Take sometime to go through them on the gambling discussion board and you'd see a bunch of these threads. And as you've said, there is nothing can be done with it because that's a fact. A gambler that has tasted to win for several times and understands the risk that gambling has and sees the stance of most of the casinos won't fall for such tricks of themselves. They might lose a lot but that is a bearable loss and that can't be blamed to the casino as we're all doing these actions with our own will. If someone is unfortunate in gambling for this day, there's a term called rest and that's what they need to do instead of pursuing which isn't going to work if they are unlucky at all.


Title: Re: Woes of gambling
Post by: Yogee on January 08, 2024, 02:28:06 PM
How your post sounds to me:
- You do not believe in Random Number Generators
- You do not think results are fair and that outcomes can be verified via provably fair system
- You do not believe the casino even if they say their house edge is 5% right in front of your face

Do yourself a favor - don't gamble.


Title: Re: Woes of gambling
Post by: Oshosondy on January 08, 2024, 02:29:10 PM
Take casino games for example especially jackpot casino games there is no way you can tell me that all of them are structured in such a way that they randomly always make money for the house if you ask me gambling is a fraud that has been used to trick people into believing that their choices matter it does not everyone that gambles is just there to make money for the casino unfortunately there is nothing that can be done about human nature
Gambling should be for fun. If you want to have fun, you can gamble. If you want to make money, do not gamble at all. See gambling as a service rendered for people to have fun and nothing more. And if you want to have the fun, just use little amount of money for gambling which will not affect your life negativity.

One example is like you went to drink beer and you always drink to stupor. The people that make you to have have fun by serving you drinks will make money from you but not that you should waste money to drink to stupor. See gambling sites like that.


Title: Re: Woes of gambling
Post by: rat03gopoh on January 08, 2024, 02:29:50 PM
there is no way you can tell me that all of them are structured in such a way that they randomly always make money for the house
This is just a basic understanding of gambling and you have to understand it in plain sight without other people telling you. You bet based on "luck" and everyone knows that "it won't always be". If you hope to always make money, you have to do business like a bookie. Gamblers aren't businessman, but the house must maintain its business as long as possible.

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if you ask me gambling is a fraud
As long as there is a systematic probability of winning for one or more gamblers and paying out those winnings, it is not fraud. The fraud is your own desire to always be lucky.


Title: Re: Woes of gambling
Post by: mindrust on January 08, 2024, 02:29:56 PM
Take casino games for example especially jackpot casino games there is no way you can tell me that all of them are structured in such a way that they randomly always make money for the house if you ask me gambling is a fraud that has been used to trick people into believing that their choices matter it does not everyone that gambles is just there to make money for the casino unfortunately there is nothing that can be done about human nature 💔💔💔

What are you mumbling about? Of course the games are rigged against the players. That's how gambling works. If you don't like it, then don't play. If the casino don't have any advantage over the players, how are they gonna make money? Remember this is a business we are talking about and like every other business out there, the main goal is to generate a reliable cash flow. (make money) The casino makes the money when their customers loses. It is as simple as that.


Title: Re: Woes of gambling
Post by: _act_ on January 08, 2024, 02:37:10 PM
What are you mumbling about? Of course the games are rigged against the players. That's how gambling works.
Do not make it confusing, those games are not rigged. If casino games are rigged, it has another meaning entirely and that means the gambling site did something bad to their machine in a way that all customers will always lose because the games will always be in their favour. But what you are talking about is the house edge which all casinos have. The machine works normally but people  can not always win but to lose more if they keep on gambling.

You are right about the second point, that if casinos do not make money, how will they continue the business.


Title: Re: Woes of gambling
Post by: Betwrong on January 08, 2024, 02:47:33 PM
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If you know that gambling is a means of fraud, and casino are using this to extort money from gamblers, why are you still gambling, you can just quit gambling finally, so that you don't become their victim anymore. However, I disagree with you on that statement because, I have seen a lot of gamblers that won big and their money was given to them. Gambling is known as try your luck and if you think that you are capable of winning, you can try your luck, and this should be done for fun and not because you want use it as an advantage to make money, if so, you got it wrong. There are some casinos that are out there to scam people and such casinos don't last as they will always deprive gamblers from their win. It is hard to win more than you lose and put that in your mind.

Indeed, given the nature of casino games, t's hard to win more than you lose. It's not a charity joint, it's a casino FFS, they operate for profits. So, obviously, most gamblers lose their money and only a minority of them wins more than was staked. But those people exist, many thousands of them. When they say everyone can profit from gambling, don't believe them. But when they say that they themselves have profited, it can be a fact whether we like it or not.


Title: Re: Woes of gambling
Post by: alastantiger on January 08, 2024, 02:49:16 PM
Take casino games for example especially jackpot casino games there is no way you can tell me that all of them are structured in such a way that they randomly always make money for the house if you ask me gambling is a fraud that has been used to trick people into believing that their choices matter it does not everyone that gambles is just there to make money for the casino unfortunately there is nothing that can be done about human nature
Always be decisive about which way you want to gamble. You should decide if you want to gamble professionally or gamble for fun. Gambling professionally means you are taking it as a source of income, it is difficult to make a steady source of income from it and those who chose this pathway know it. You see them have other "gambling related side hustles attached to it". Those who gamble for fun and gamble responsibly see it all fun and not a medium to make money. The casino will always win and there it is a fact that they accept. if you cannot accept it, then don't gamble. If you can accept it, then gamble strategically.


Title: Re: Woes of gambling
Post by: AmoreJaz on January 08, 2024, 02:54:18 PM
Always be decisive about which way you want to gamble. You should decide if you want to gamble professionally or gamble for fun. Gambling professionally means you are taking it as a source of income, it is difficult to make a steady source of income from it and those who chose this pathway know it. You see them have other "gambling related side hustles attached to it". Those who gamble for fun and gamble responsibly see it all fun and not a medium to make money. The casino will always win and there it is a fact that they accept. if you cannot accept it, then don't gamble. If you can accept it, then gamble strategically.

i don't know the real motive of the OP here why such post about gambling. but we already know the hard fact that gambling should not in anyway be used as a source of main income especially if you are playing those casino classics such as dice, hi-lo, roulette among others. because the chance that you are on the losing end is very high.

however, if you happen to be a professional poker player or sportsbettor, there's a chance that you can make good money out of it. but this path is years in the making. you can't achieve overnight success on these endeavours. so if you are patient enough and have passion on these games, then i would say, you have good likelihood of earning good income and you won't be troubled that you are into gambling.

What are you mumbling about? Of course the games are rigged against the players. That's how gambling works. If you don't like it, then don't play. If the casino don't have any advantage over the players, how are they gonna make money? Remember this is a business we are talking about and like every other business out there, the main goal is to generate a reliable cash flow. (make money) The casino makes the money when their customers loses. It is as simple as that.

not really rigged but let's say they have their house edge and that's what gambling is all about. if you can't accept such reality, then by all means you should not touch gambling in your life. this is why gambling business is a lucrative one if they know how to manage one. and it is up to the player whether he is ok with house edge, provable fairness or the rtp of the game.


Title: Re: Woes of gambling
Post by: Hatchy on January 08, 2024, 02:58:39 PM
That's true, mate. But does that mean people shouldn't gamble at all? When we gamble, sometimes we win by luck, and other times we lose to the house. It's a bit of both, even though the house usually has the upper hand. no body mind when gamblers find ways to outsmart the system. When we gamble, it's for fun. We don't do it because we like losing money, but rather to test our luck and see if we can make some gains from betting. If someone starts seeing gambling as a way to make a living, it becomes challenging and stops being enjoyable. Even though we know that casinos might cheat, and there's fraud, people still play because they want to experience the fun in gambling. This emphasizes that gambling shouldn't be something you stress over, it's meant for fun


Title: Re: Woes of gambling
Post by: Lida93 on January 08, 2024, 03:11:09 PM
Take casino games for example especially jackpot casino games there is no way you can tell me that all of them are structured in such a way that they randomly always make money for the house if you ask me gambling is a fraud that has been used to trick people into believing that their choices matter it does not everyone that gambles is just there to make money for the casino unfortunately there is nothing that can be done about human nature 💔💔💔
Alright mate, stop gambling now that you have discovered that it is fraud. At least minus you the number of jackpots competitors will reduce thereby increasing the chances of some gambler somewhere  aiming for the jackpot. ::)

Op you want every participants in a jackpot to win altogether simultaneously and for you that's the only way it doesn't seem to be a fraud. Perhaps it's a good idea since everyone loves and want to win but have you thought about it that if it happens the way you Op wants it how can the casino's pay all the winners when we all know very well that it's from the losses of other lottery participants/gamblers that they use in paying the winner that emerges.

It is called gambling, a game of chance, random luck which is why everyone can not win at same time. My two cents to you Op is that if you suspect the casino you're using for gambling is cheating you then maybe you can try your luck on other reputable casino, you can do that with freebitco.in who knows you might just be the next lucky winner in one of their regular rewarding competition's.


Title: Re: Woes of gambling
Post by: bittraffic on January 08, 2024, 03:31:46 PM

Everybody can say something, proving it isn't easy. The only thing that is always constant is casino players are losing and it could just be because people are out of luck and it's not hard to find your luck to hit jackpot.

But there is proof also that people hit the jackpot and claimed the big prize. Online casinos are just not easy to beat but if you are suspicious of their random numbers, try sports betting, this is obviously a good choice.


Title: Re: Woes of gambling
Post by: Beparanf on January 08, 2024, 03:34:33 PM
I'm not sure the point you are trying to make because of the contradiction at the middle part of your post but I believe gambling is not a guarantee for riches and the house always has better winning chances than the player. You also need to understand that you have to gamble with the money you can afford to lose whether in online casino or offline and that is how you can be satisfied in your games whether lose or profit.

Perhaps he is accusing casino for offering jackpot rewards while they don’t pay it in reality. I think he is assuming that jackpot is the way of casino to lure players to play more for profit without giving any equal return. Simply a pure house advantage since he doesn’t believe that casino doesn’t payout jackpot to players.

OP probably one of those players that frequently losing which resulted to questioning of casino integrity. This is not knew and also there’s really some shady casino that fit to OP description but not the trusted gambling site here.


Title: Re: Woes of gambling
Post by: Oilacris on January 08, 2024, 03:36:16 PM
Take casino games for example especially jackpot casino games there is no way you can tell me that all of them are structured in such a way that they randomly always make money for the house if you ask me gambling is a fraud that has been used to trick people into believing that their choices matter it does not everyone that gambles is just there to make money for the casino unfortunately there is nothing that can be done about human nature 💔💔💔

What can you say about that recent $42M winning on slot games?
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5480517.0

The thing you've been talking then it is actually true, they do always have that edge and having that advantage against players and this is how business works
 but pretty much sure that they would really be doing such thing when it comes to tweaking up something for their own benefit on which its not new.
People would really be continually be pursuing on hitting those huge wins before they might be able to stop.

Gamble for fun but this is something that not everyone could be able to do so. Why? majority of people do becomes greedy
and this is why they are really that prone when it comes to mistakes and potential headaches that they might be able to face up along the way.


Title: Re: Woes of gambling
Post by: Wiwo on January 08, 2024, 03:40:01 PM
That is the reason why gambling has a lot of restrictions and even bans in some places because of the nature of how gambling is being operated and the system that either rewards winners and also deducts winners.

But also what we must know is the reality that both a gambler and a casino both are guilty if you want to go according to the term of calling gambling a fraud.

I think,  it is better to we take gambling for what it is,  which is a game of chance and there shouldn't be any expectations to the on whatever basis.


Title: Re: Woes of gambling
Post by: Zanab247 on January 08, 2024, 03:46:15 PM
Those that always take gambling as an investment, where they will be investing their money in form of betting daily with huge amount of money and lost at the end, they will always call gambling fraud because they don't take gambling as a fun.

And, there are many casinos which you can use small amount of money to gamble and you will earn something before the end of the week to recover what you have spend so far in the gambling.


Title: Re: Woes of gambling
Post by: BABY SHOES on January 08, 2024, 03:46:30 PM
Quite simply, if you don't believe in gambling then you don't need to gamble anymore and avoid this kind of talk.

We know that gambling games are lucky, there is no need to bring it up again because you feel that the victory has been arranged in such a way for random people, even though there is no fact that most of us don't care because we know this is a game for fun.

Who thinks gambling is for making money? Even I myself don't think so because I know I lose more than I win, so let's just say it's fun to burn money at the casino.


Title: Re: Woes of gambling
Post by: Westinhome on January 08, 2024, 03:47:01 PM
Take casino games for example especially jackpot casino games there is no way you can tell me that all of them are structured in such a way that they randomly always make money for the house if you ask me gambling is a fraud that has been used to trick people into believing that their choices matter it does not everyone that gambles is just there to make money for the casino unfortunately there is nothing that can be done about human nature 💔💔💔

The casino games was sometimes based on the skill,but at the extreme conditions the game based on the random bets to make the winning.Many people think the casino game was based on the skill,but after complete game in the casino.You can understand the real fact in the game of gambling.The skill may work for the fifty percentage of the game.If you follow the tactics for the full game may leads to the loss at the final.So play the casino game with the tactics for the certain duration and move to random betting in the game.So you can cover the profit in the gambling site.The gambling is also based on the skill,but many people play the random bets through out the game and losing at the end.


Title: Re: Woes of gambling
Post by: Slow death on January 08, 2024, 04:26:47 PM
You may have heard words like "provably fair games". So when you put money into the casino, you should be aware that your winning will be dependent on the odds, while the casino is more likely to win, you are less likely to win. This does not mean that the casino is a scam, no. the casino is being honest with you from the beginning telling you that in the game you play, the chances of you winning are lower, the chances of the casino profiting from your losses are higher, this is a game and you must be aware of that. For example, let's imagine that you play a game in a casino where you put a 1000x multiplier

you put $0.20 on each spin, you know that the chances of seeing losses on each spin are very high because that 1000x multiplier of yours is difficult to get right and the casino is also at risk with that, because if you play in 5 spins and lose 1$ but in round 6 you hit the 1000x multiplier you will win 200$, this would already create a loss for the casino because you only lost 1$ and the casino lost 200$. So it's a risk that you and the casino take when you start playing. There is nothing scam about this, it has to do with mathematics: probability

That's why even though there are many casinos that tell people to play for fun, there are many people who have been lucky enough to win a lot of money at the casino, there are many people who have lost money at the casino. Note that casinos are not charitable institutions, it is someone's business, the casino owner has operational costs that he has to pay, he also needs to have a large bankroll in case someone wins a lot of money. So there is nothing scam about it


Title: Re: Woes of gambling
Post by: EarnOnVictor on January 08, 2024, 04:41:56 PM
Take casino games for example especially jackpot casino games there is no way you can tell me that all of them are structured in such a way that they randomly always make money for the house if you ask me gambling is a fraud that has been used to trick people into believing that their choices matter it does not everyone that gambles is just there to make money for the casino unfortunately there is nothing that can be done about human nature 💔💔💔
Your expression seems pretty confusing as it seems you are for and against the view at the same time. But as I understand it, it is good to be wary of the house even though some are sincere and fair, it is all about integrity. But if I ask you, how many human beings have integrity? The percentage will be very low, even those who believe they have integrity could still have it corrupt when they see money and the temptation that comes with it. Well, from what I have read, it is all about the casino itself, so it varies. Some truly have a provably fair system and will never alter it for any reason. If anyone plays with such a casino, such is lucky as what has been written in the algorithms is what the casino will continue to play by. So it is all about your luck and how good you are with your casino instincts and strategy that will make you win in such casinos, while the house will never manipulate it.

But still, the system itself from the beginning has been wired to favour the house, don't forget that and you can't change that fact even though it's not that the system will fake it for you into losing. The way it has been wired can never be against the house overall. You can see that all can't be fraud but indirectly, it is still a win-win for the house, only that some casinos are too greedy to continue cheating their customers with some more internal adjustments that will fail a provably fair system.


Title: Re: Woes of gambling
Post by: Dewi Aries on January 08, 2024, 05:00:28 PM
I'm not sure the point you are trying to make because of the contradiction at the middle part of your post but I believe gambling is not a guarantee for riches and the house always has better winning chances than the player. You also need to understand that you have to gamble with the money you can afford to lose whether in online casino or offline and that is how you can be satisfied in your games whether lose or profit.

Haha yes it is quite confusing what is being said but it doesn't matter and maybe we can say something that we understand about this. Overall and however I share your belief that gambling really isn't the place to turn you into a rich man in no time, it's just a game of chance that requires you to put some money down if you want to get involved, that's it and there's absolutely no get rich quick element to it at all.

The reason? Obviously it's because the end result is always unpredictable as to whether you will win or lose the session you are doing, this is a fact and I think because the outcome of gambling is unpredictable then obviously this is the reason that it is very unlikely or even impossible for someone to become a rich man just by gambling, I would only believe you can become a rich man from gambling if you are one of those people who owns your own casino because basically the house will always win, but if you are just a casual gambler and then have the expectation of becoming a rich man then obviously it is very ridiculous and unreasonable if we think using common sense realistically. So the bottom line is that we must understand that gambling is not a place of income but just a game of chance that can fill your empty time and if you are lucky you will win, and obviously as you said that it is always the best choice to put a small amount that we can afford to be responsible for.


Title: Re: Woes of gambling
Post by: Furious 7 on January 08, 2024, 05:06:57 PM
I think almost everyone must be aware of that because after all when talking about gambling then we will definitely not let go of the word gambling with luck regardless of whether there is a setting or anything else in it a gambler will definitely only have a benchmark of luck about this.

We must realize that every casino whether they operate on land or online is all a business for them to make a profit and we know that so no matter how hard we will not be able to beat them the croupiers because we are players and they are businessmen so we will definitely lose.

But why do people still gamble despite the fact that this happens? Because there is a pleasure in itself at least that's what I feel right now. I know that I will definitely lose but I don't mind that because the desire to gamble in me is fulfilled especially the money I spend on gambling is not big so it won't mean anything to me.


Title: Re: Woes of gambling
Post by: Mauser on January 08, 2024, 05:12:46 PM
Take casino games for example especially jackpot casino games there is no way you can tell me that all of them are structured in such a way that they randomly always make money for the house if you ask me gambling is a fraud that has been used to trick people into believing that their choices matter it does not everyone that gambles is just there to make money for the casino unfortunately there is nothing that can be done about human nature 💔💔💔

I don't think this is true. Just now we had someone winning a 42m jackpot playing slots. How did he make any money for the casino? Even if he gambled there the last 10 years, I wouldn't expect him to lose more than 1 million in that time. He is definitely in the green now. Of course this is only one lucky example and a large number of people are losing at gambling, but I still believe in legitimate casinos. Without any winners there would be no motivation to start gambling.


Title: Re: Woes of gambling
Post by: Yatsan on January 08, 2024, 05:46:20 PM
Take casino games for example especially jackpot casino games there is no way you can tell me that all of them are structured in such a way that they randomly always make money for the house if you ask me gambling is a fraud that has been used to trick people into believing that their choices matter it does not everyone that gambles is just there to make money for the casino unfortunately there is nothing that can be done about human nature 💔💔💔
If you think in such way then obviously it would be better for you to stay away from gambling. Well, quite ringing a bell; there are fraudalent gambling platforms which are really taking away people's money but for sure not all platforms are. If you are after the jackpot then for sure it is not a new thing to most of us that it is not something which will take place just because we wanted to; some gamblers already retired without hitting their big win which simply proves how hard it is. Some gamblers managed to win on their early gambling career which is really amazing. We have different timeline, fortune, and luck which makes sense to say that if it isn't happening yet there will still be a chance afterwards and if nor, then there are other amounts you can win. Given the difficulty, if you still eye on that jackpot but fully aware that you cannot take losses, save yourself from guilt and disappointment; quit already and allows real gamblers to do their thing.


Title: Re: Woes of gambling
Post by: acroman08 on January 08, 2024, 06:06:35 PM
Take casino games for example especially jackpot casino games there is no way you can tell me that all of them are structured in such a way that they randomly always make money for the house if you ask me gambling is a fraud that has been used to trick people into believing that their choices matter it does not everyone that gambles is just there to make money for the casino unfortunately there is nothing that can be done about human nature 💔💔💔
I hate to break it to you but gambling games are designed to be in favor of the house. it is common information among gamblers who have been gambling for a long time, but of course, not everyone knows or realizes it. that is also why the term "the house always wins" was created(at least that is what I believe)


Title: Re: Woes of gambling
Post by: pawel7777 on January 08, 2024, 06:12:47 PM
Take casino games for example especially jackpot casino games there is no way you can tell me that all of them are structured in such a way that they randomly always make money for the house if you ask me gambling is a fraud that has been used to trick people into believing that their choices matter it does not everyone that gambles is just there to make money for the casino unfortunately there is nothing that can be done about human nature 💔💔💔

You can't be serious. There is no way you can tell me that you didn't know that every casino game has a mathematical advantage over player, know as a house edge.
So it's not like games "always" make money for the house, hardly anyone would be playing them if that was the case, but a player will tend to lose if he keeps playing longer term.
Of course, there are shady casinos out there, and some games could be rigged, but to say that every casino, or every game, is a fraud is massive exaggeration. Most of established casinos are probably OK, they don't need to resort to fraud to make big profits.
And a lot can be done about human nature. We're not animals and are capable of overwriting our basic instincts, including stopping gambling if it's not working for you.


Title: Re: Woes of gambling
Post by: goldkingcoiner on January 08, 2024, 06:29:20 PM
Take casino games for example especially jackpot casino games there is no way you can tell me that all of them are structured in such a way that they randomly always make money for the house if you ask me gambling is a fraud that has been used to trick people into believing that their choices matter it does not everyone that gambles is just there to make money for the casino unfortunately there is nothing that can be done about human nature 💔💔💔

The casinos (which are not in third world countries) are being watched heavily by regulators in order to ensure full transparency. They tell you the exact odds of winning and losing. You can hardly call it a fraud if you knew about how it works and what the odds of the game are, beforehand.

It sounds like to me this whole topic serves no purpose other than OP venting his anger (probably after losing money in gambling).

Next time, OP, you need to consider how much money you are comfortable with losing/winning and which games you wish to learn more about. Obviously winning a jackpot is completely different than winning a small prize. But it is not a random thing. We know that losing is always more probable than winning.


Title: Re: Woes of gambling
Post by: Zlantann on January 08, 2024, 06:53:40 PM
Take casino games for example especially jackpot casino games there is no way you can tell me that all of them are structured in such a way that they randomly always make money for the house if you ask me gambling is a fraud that has been used to trick people into believing that their choices matter it does not everyone that gambles is just there to make money for the casino unfortunately there is nothing that can be done about human nature 💔💔💔

Gambling is for adults and not for children and every mature mind knows what is appropriate or inappropriate. If you think gambling is a fraud, that's your view based on your personal experience or studies. But you seem to miss the main point that gambling shouldn't be seen as a source of income but a source of entertainment. If you take gambling as a means of making money, it might make you put in more than you can afford to lose and this could make you see gambling as fraud. It is indeed difficult to beat the house, but I have seen gamblers who made a fortune from winning big from gambling.    

It sounds like to me this whole topic serves no purpose other than OP venting his anger (probably after losing money in gambling).

I also suspect that OP recently had a bad gambling experience. Maybe he lost a bet that he thought he was supposed to win. But he didn't know that gambling is unpredictable that is why we should always be careful.


Title: Re: Woes of gambling
Post by: BIT-BENDER on January 08, 2024, 06:59:11 PM
Take casino games for example especially jackpot casino games there is no way you can tell me that all of them are structured in such a way that they randomly always make money for the house if you ask me gambling is a fraud that has been used to trick people into believing that their choices matter it does not everyone that gambles is just there to make money for the casino unfortunately there is nothing that can be done about human nature 💔💔💔
It's sad you are playing on the wrong table yes some gambling platform are structured to only give wins to the table but there are lots of genuine casinos tables online and offline, personal from my region I prefer to play online and it's transparent and yes I lose some times but some times I also win that's how gambling is.


Title: Re: Woes of gambling
Post by: Twentyonepaylots on January 08, 2024, 07:11:19 PM
I'm pretty sure most people knew that already but you know gambling is not something that guarantee you getting rich any way.
If you have a mindset on gambling like this, you'll be trap forever in the realm of hopelessness. Gambling and Guarantee is very contradicting words, you can't put it in the same sentence. If you mixed this up, you mess it up.

But there's a reason they called it jackpot. You know gambling all about luck or that you might be lucky enough to hit the jackpot that can cover the funds gambling have eaten from you.
Well for slots for sure, you only need a luck to hit that jackpot, I'm not sure how the machine is deciding when to give its jackpot but for sure it won't be the first spin.

Come to think of it if everyone is winning how will the casino pay. Through those losses most casino normally use to pay for others wins. Aslong there's winner they will always be losers.
How can you call it a gamble if there are no losers? Ofc there will be winners and losers, and if you know the house edge you know who always win at the end of the day. Imagine a brand new open casino and gave jackpot on every machine's first spin. That would be tragic haha.


Title: Re: Woes of gambling
Post by: bitvalak on January 08, 2024, 07:14:32 PM
Don't have too high hopes for gambling. Avoid the ambition to get rich through gambling. However, gambling is a game that is set in such a way.
You cannot interfere with the regulations of each gambling platform. If you like it please play along, if not you can skip it.
People like gambling because it is fun, if you think gambling is a way to get rich then immediately close all information related to gambling from your mind.


Title: Re: Woes of gambling
Post by: darkangel11 on January 08, 2024, 07:15:12 PM
I won't tell you that OP because there's never like that. You won't find a business where all (write whatever you like here, for example restaurants, banks...) are fair and structured the way they claim they are. It's the same with casinos that sometimes scam you, which is why we tell people to use due diligence. You should always check reviews, look for scam accusations and so on.
The majority of casinos aren't scams, just mathematically designed to make some money, but most people can't do math and don't understand it.


Title: Re: Woes of gambling
Post by: Woodie on January 08, 2024, 07:26:39 PM
Take casino games for example especially jackpot casino games there is no way you can tell me that all of them are structured in such a way that they randomly always make money for the house if you ask me gambling is a fraud that has been used to trick people into believing that their choices matter it does not everyone that gambles is just there to make money for the casino unfortunately there is nothing that can be done about human nature 💔💔💔
Playing for the jackpots is never easy and if you do, I believe you will be chasing your losses before you know it and advise you to play games that will pay you 20%-40% on your bankroll depending on the game chosen and the strategy used!

And the notion of Casinos tricking people, honestly I think as consenting adults (18+) the fact that everyone knows that the house always wins I really don't see any tricks here but the greed of the player that makes people gamble away whatever they had, but hey you lose some and you win some  :P

Otherwise, go out there and have some fun, and remember don't break your bank, happy new year.


Title: Re: Woes of gambling
Post by: cryptomaniac_xxx on January 08, 2024, 08:37:23 PM
Take casino games for example especially jackpot casino games there is no way you can tell me that all of them are structured in such a way that they randomly always make money for the house if you ask me gambling is a fraud that has been used to trick people into believing that their choices matter it does not everyone that gambles is just there to make money for the casino unfortunately there is nothing that can be done about human nature 💔💔💔

You have a choice, don't gamble simply as that. But if you think that you can win and go and try to play into a casino that you think you are going to lose anyways then why gamble? That's why it's risky, but the thing is that there are people who won jackpot or even in a lottery, odds that people bet so you know that the system still works but obviously not everyone is lucky to win.

So I wouldn't call it a straight up fraud, casino's are tricky business, and as such everyone is all for the money. They have the house edge to begin win and we all know that as a gambler but still we gamble on them.


Title: Re: Woes of gambling
Post by: Kemarit on January 08, 2024, 08:48:59 PM
Take casino games for example especially jackpot casino games there is no way you can tell me that all of them are structured in such a way that they randomly always make money for the house if you ask me gambling is a fraud that has been used to trick people into believing that their choices matter it does not everyone that gambles is just there to make money for the casino unfortunately there is nothing that can be done about human nature 💔💔💔

It's what we call "house edge", thus, that's what you basically describe, and it varies game to game. Worst game that someone can play is slot machine, but it's the most popular games whether online or offline and this is where many people lost their money to begin with. However, if you are not that addict and play for some fun, it doesn't matter though, as it is also part of human nature as your put it in your argument.

But if you are thinking to always make money when gambling? it's wrong mindset and we have discussed it here many times already. Just play what you can afford to lose and again, if you are lucky enough then you might win but it's not going to be like every time you are going to play.


Title: Re: Woes of gambling
Post by: Juse14 on January 08, 2024, 08:54:37 PM
When a person indulges in gambling for the sake of enjoyment, they are essentially justifying their questionable actions and seeking self-defense. The thrill and contentment derived from playing games of chance and securing substantial victories can indeed bring about moments of joy. However, it is intrinsic to human nature to perpetually yearn for more, never truly satisfied with what they have attained. Therefore, it becomes clear that the claim of gambling being solely for amusement is nothing but a facade. In reality, those who partake in these activities are driven by the desire to reap financial gains and aspire to join the ranks of the fortunate few who strike it big in the realm of gambling. And then, the question arises - will he, after experiencing a significant triumph in his gambling ventures, abruptly cease his involvement in this risky pursuit and never set foot into its realm again? It is not as simple as that. Returning to my earlier statement, it is the nature of human eels to never truly experience contentment, making it an arduous task to derive genuine pleasure. Hence, upon achieving a substantial victory, he invariably finds himself drawn back into the enticing world of gambling, driven by an insatiable desire to surpass his previous triumph and attain an even grander conquest. This relentless pursuit leads him to progressively increase the stakes placed on each bet and indulge in increasingly audacious wagers.


Title: Re: Woes of gambling
Post by: Fortify on January 08, 2024, 09:48:13 PM
Take casino games for example especially jackpot casino games there is no way you can tell me that all of them are structured in such a way that they randomly always make money for the house if you ask me gambling is a fraud that has been used to trick people into believing that their choices matter it does not everyone that gambles is just there to make money for the casino unfortunately there is nothing that can be done about human nature 💔💔💔

It's not fraud, however some people apparently cannot understand the simple maths that casinos will TELL YOU upfront and do not try to hide. Look for any references to "RTP" and that is the return to player amount. On average that is the return that you will receive and most games are in the 95% + range, which does simply mean that they are slowly taking your money because they each time you play is independent from all other plays. They do not owe you any money, nor do they force you to play there, gambling companies are only making money because other people are greedy and believe there is a short cut to wealth. On average you will lose, but people like to forget each losing spin and just focus on the "big" wins, that is what keeps these companies in business.


Title: Re: Woes of gambling
Post by: Nwada001 on January 08, 2024, 10:07:14 PM
Some people believe that casinos are designed to favour their owners more than the gamblers, and to some point, I also agree with that. There is no time that someone will build a business that he or she will not benefit from.
 
There is a level of fairness in most reputable casinos, but there is also a level of manipulation in those greedy and scam casinos. The thing is, you need to be careful about which casino you choose to gamble at.
 
For the real ones, they make sure they choose or build their own games based on an algorithm, which will make it hard for gamblers to just predict and win games easily, but if you try hard and your skill is accompanied by luck, then you might be lucky to be one of their regular winners.


Title: Re: Woes of gambling
Post by: Makus on January 08, 2024, 10:19:49 PM
Take casino games for example especially jackpot casino games there is no way you can tell me that all of them are structured in such a way that they randomly always make money for the house if you ask me gambling is a fraud that has been used to trick people into believing that their choices matter it does not everyone that gambles is just there to make money for the casino unfortunately there is nothing that can be done about human nature 💔💔💔

Op to be honest, I don't know where you got this from but, you sound like someone who has really lost a lot and is depressed. Anyway if it's because of your loss, sorry for the experience. This is the more reason. Why we ought to gamble responsibly, and not chase after losses or wins.  Even if some gambling games are obviously scams or fraud, you should know when to quite those kind of games before you become absolutely broke. I prefer to bet on sports games than those regular online casino that might be a scam.


Title: Re: Woes of gambling
Post by: usekevin on January 08, 2024, 10:28:07 PM

Op to be honest, I don't know where you got this from but, you sound like someone who has really lost a lot and is depressed. Anyway if it's because of your loss, sorry for the experience. This is the more reason. Why we ought to gamble responsibly, and not chase after losses or wins.  Even if some gambling games are obviously scams or fraud, you should know when to quite those kind of games before you become absolutely broke. I prefer to bet on sports games than those regular online casino that might be a scam.

The gambling is not the scam one,some website may be the scam one.The gamblers should take responsibility of finding the best one before the usage of the real money to the gambling site.The usage of the top gambling site will reduce the amount of loss percentage of the player to low.The gambling can’t be predicted most of the time.The strategy of the game also failed sometimes in the gambling site,the random betting was the essential one at the time of the strategy doesn’t work in the gambling site.I had deep sorry for the OP,if he had loss some dollars in the gambling site.

I won't tell you that OP because there's never like that. You won't find a business where all (write whatever you like here, for example restaurants, banks...) are fair and structured the way they claim they are. It's the same with casinos that sometimes scam you, which is why we tell people to use due diligence. You should always check reviews, look for scam accusations and so on.
The majority of casinos aren't scams, just mathematically designed to make some money, but most people can't do math and don't understand it.

The gambler can’t change their business to restaurants,if he had failed being the gambler.Because not all the business will suit for all the people,we should do the business which suit for us.The casino need to make more probability for each bet even the single bet made with just one dollar.


Title: Re: Woes of gambling
Post by: Wexnident on January 08, 2024, 10:33:19 PM
Take casino games for example especially jackpot casino games there is no way you can tell me that all of them are structured in such a way that they randomly always make money for the house if you ask me gambling is a fraud that has been used to trick people into believing that their choices matter it does not everyone that gambles is just there to make money for the casino unfortunately there is nothing that can be done about human nature 💔💔💔
It's not random lol. The house always takes a cut from the money users spent, and the rest goes into the pot to attract more people to play it. Now this isn't anything wrong imo, it's just how businesses work. They simply have to take profit from something that they let their users spend on, just like how rentals ask for fees. Might seem unfair since it's a lottery, which in essence is only a paper, or dice rolls which is comparable to a single click of your mouse but hey, we're the dumb ones that use it.

Anyway casinos are pretty transparent about how much they take from the users and how much users are able to get from their winnings. Try exploring the site, it should pop out on one of their ToS or related rules or something.


Title: Re: Woes of gambling
Post by: danadc on January 08, 2024, 11:06:23 PM
Take casino games for example especially jackpot casino games there is no way you can tell me that all of them are structured in such a way that they randomly always make money for the house if you ask me gambling is a fraud that has been used to trick people into believing that their choices matter it does not everyone that gambles is just there to make money for the casino unfortunately there is nothing that can be done about human nature ??????

Op to be honest, I don't know where you got this from but, you sound like someone who has really lost a lot and is depressed. Anyway if it's because of your loss, sorry for the experience. This is the more reason. Why we ought to gamble responsibly, and not chase after losses or wins.  Even if some gambling games are obviously scams or fraud, you should know when to quite those kind of games before you become absolutely broke. I prefer to bet on sports games than those regular online casino that might be a scam.

Whenever you try to see some casino programs, you have to see what Platforms they are on ? It could be that they are on a platform where they scam people, there are casinos that are like that and people like to steal whatever they want, from the moment of the deposit to the entire game, that is a chain that is difficult to break , I always play I focus on looking for the casino that I have the most confidence in, but the trust of a casino and its reputation is what we must see, if it is a site of dubious reputation things can be difficult to trust , Otherwise if they are a casino that is Trustworthy You can Open a wallet for deposits and everything.

The recommendation is that before playing you review the threads Ann so that you can attest that the site is busy, that you consult with the casino and those who support you as they can respond to any problem, but you still have to be careful, this is Simply a ropebla when the origin of the casino is to be careful, if they are good casinos that are completely trustworthy, there is nothing to worry about, it would no longer be a problem.


Title: Re: Woes of gambling
Post by: terciduk123 on January 09, 2024, 03:56:37 AM
In casino gambling, the casino owner has a greater chance of winning, but that doesn't mean players don't have a chance to win, it all depends on how we manage the game, the most important thing is how we manage the game time, when we start and when we have to end. sometimes players are too greedy and lose their money


Title: Re: Woes of gambling
Post by: mamesso on January 09, 2024, 04:32:57 AM
You don't need to explain everything from scratch about anything that happens in gambling, the majority of gamblers already know about this and they don't mind it as long as the money used for gambling is intended to be spent having fun. People who want wealth in gambling don't know what gambling really is like, this wrong assumption will last forever if they don't change their mindset about gambling.

There are times when they win the Jackpot and there are also times when it is very difficult to win, that's gambling, there is no certainty there. Gamblers' satisfaction is not because they have succeeded in getting the Jackpot, those who are able to account for the money they have spent will feel happy because they have felt an atmosphere that is difficult to express to other people, that is true satisfaction.


Title: Re: Woes of gambling
Post by: Dimitri94 on January 09, 2024, 04:54:44 AM
In casino gambling, the casino owner has a greater chance of winning, but that doesn't mean players don't have a chance to win, it all depends on how we manage the game, the most important thing is how we manage the game time, when we start and when we have to end. sometimes players are too greedy and lose their money
It is natural that the house will always be in profit. They get passive income that gamblers don't. A gambler might greedily increase his bets or lose money by gambling more, but the more gamblers in a house gamble, the more the house's increase their income. They are benefited by house edge. But many gamblers may have a different idea they think that house earn money by cheating with gamblers. I think legit casino gambling platforms don't do this. But there is no way to deny such accusations because fake sites cheat gamblers and steal money. That is why a gambler must give importance in choosing a casino site.


Title: Re: Woes of gambling
Post by: angrybirdy on January 09, 2024, 05:26:20 AM
In casino gambling, the casino owner has a greater chance of winning, but that doesn't mean players don't have a chance to win, it all depends on how we manage the game, the most important thing is how we manage the game time, when we start and when we have to end. sometimes players are too greedy and lose their money

Greater chance of winning in terms of gaining big profit from players, but there are still a chance for some normal players to hit the jackpot prize, that is if you get lucky at that time and especially if no other fraud occurs with casino cards and machines. Gamblers should know how to properly handle what they win and should not consider it as if it's a stable job because in reality it is not.


Title: Re: Woes of gambling
Post by: dothebeats on January 09, 2024, 05:59:33 AM
I'm pretty sure people are aware of how awful the odds are for them when they gamble. It's just they (including myself) believe in the illusion that I'll be getting something off of it even just for once. For a while now, I've been trying to limit myself in playing casino games, but I'm currently hooked up in slots, plinko, and mines. Most of my wins come from sports betting, so that kinda offsets what I lose in casino games (luckily).

We will always have the urge to chase for even the tiniest of wins from the casino even though how odds are insanely stacked against us.


Title: Re: Woes of gambling
Post by: Hirose UK on January 09, 2024, 05:59:39 AM
What do you say?
This is gambling, everything has no certainty and every gambler who starts to enter is aware of the risk of losing and also the difficulty of winning, but what they do is still register and deposit their money.
Losing does not make gamblers feel discouraged from gambling, in fact most are more enthusiastic and ambitious to continue playing and pursuing victory.
Anyone who thinks gambling is means of fraud that is only to make money for casino business people will definitely never return or try gambling, but in reality such thoughts cannot be implanted in gambler brain.
You have to realize that this is all a business and for those who have the right approach it can be mutually beneficial, the casino makes profit and the gambler gets happiness and pleasure.
Isn't all this worth it, every thought and point of view towards gambling depends on each person.


Title: Re: Woes of gambling
Post by: Assface16678 on January 09, 2024, 06:05:53 AM
In casino gambling, the casino owner has a greater chance of winning, but that doesn't mean players don't have a chance to win, it all depends on how we manage the game, the most important thing is how we manage the game time, when we start and when we have to end. sometimes players are too greedy and lose their money

Greater chance of winning in terms of gaining big profit from players, but there are still a chance for some normal players to hit the jackpot prize, that is if you get lucky at that time and especially if no other fraud occurs with casino cards and machines. Gamblers should know how to properly handle what they win and should not consider it as if it's a stable job because in reality it is not.
I don't think that there are fraudulent casino websites out there; if there are, then they will not operate for too long as they are not complying with the fairness of business. It's just gambling games or casino games like slots or anything related to randomization. This kind of game is hard to win because the winning numbers or combinations are random, so the chances of winning are too small, especially in lotto. Let's say, for example, that Lotto is fraud. No, because the winning numbers are drawn live and at random. That's how the online casino works, especially for those kinds of games I've mentioned. But if you are very lucky or you are destined to win a jackpot, then congratulations to you. But remember, not all of us have that kind of luck, and not all of us will ever attain that luck in life. I especially don't waste much money or gamble in this kind of game, especially slot machines, because I know I have little to no chance of winning.


Title: Re: Woes of gambling
Post by: junder on January 09, 2024, 09:54:26 AM
Some people believe that casinos are designed to favour their owners more than the gamblers, and to some point, I also agree with that. There is no time that someone will build a business that he or she will not benefit from.
 
There is a level of fairness in most reputable casinos, but there is also a level of manipulation in those greedy and scam casinos. The thing is, you need to be careful about which casino you choose to gamble at.
 
For the real ones, they make sure they choose or build their own games based on an algorithm, which will make it hard for gamblers to just predict and win games easily, but if you try hard and your skill is accompanied by luck, then you might be lucky to be one of their regular winners.

In my opinion, casino companies that establish gambling are aiming to make profits from many people, it is impossible for them to establish casinos to give easy wins to every gambler who gambles at the casino, because their goal is to make a win, and I don't think casinos will think about the fate of gamblers who are already addicted they will not care about that because what they are looking for is profit, but even so, is it possible that there are providers of stop gambling services? like there are cigarettes that provide smoking cessation services.
I think that gambling is done with a lot of them only experiencing losses, say someone has been gambling for 100x,  and I'm sure of the 100x games that only a few wins are obtained, and also with more defeats obtained by them. gambling is done in my opinion based on the luck that is owned, if it is lucky then we will get a win, but if it is unlucky then the defeat will be obtained, although there are some gambling that requires skills to be able to win, but in my opinion it is also inseparable from luck that will determine the victory or defeat of someone who gambles.


Title: Re: Woes of gambling
Post by: summonerrk on January 09, 2024, 10:46:02 AM
Take casino games for example especially jackpot casino games there is no way you can tell me that all of them are structured in such a way that they randomly always make money for the house if you ask me gambling is a fraud that has been used to trick people into believing that their choices matter it does not everyone that gambles is just there to make money for the casino unfortunately there is nothing that can be done about human nature 💔💔💔

Just recently I read about how important it is for us humans to always have a choice in everything. Even when often this choice is just an illusion. This is exactly what the casino uses. All this rich selection of gambling varieties, all these different slots: Vikings, mafia, treasure hunt - all this has one meaning. All these are mathematical models that have only one goal - to get money out of the player. And where the gambler will lose is his choice, and the casino takes care that it is diverse. And only some will be lucky enough to win and leave right away.


Title: Re: Woes of gambling
Post by: lienfaye on January 09, 2024, 11:23:42 AM
gambling is a fraud that has been used to trick people into believing that their choices matter it does not everyone that gambles is just there to make money for the casino unfortunately there is nothing that can be done about human nature
If gambling is fraud and that's what you believe in then you're free to not play. We have our own way of thinking and no one coerce as to bet in the casino, it is our choice. Therefore we have an option to stop or continue to play if we are satisfied despite of having losses.

This is the reason why it's crucial to know how gambling works. Keep in mind to have less expectation gaining. Because there's no assurance to profit in gambling since luck has a major factor in order to win. On the other side, there's a house edge since casino is a business and that's how the operator make money. If there are many players and losers then more revenue for their business. Thus, it's up to us if we still want to gamble knowing we can lose our money if we use it in gambling.


Title: Re: Woes of gambling
Post by: aioc on January 09, 2024, 11:29:57 AM
Take casino games for example especially jackpot casino games there is no way you can tell me that all of them are structured in such a way that they randomly always make money for the house if you ask me gambling is a fraud that has been used to trick people into believing that their choices matter it does not everyone that gambles is just there to make money for the casino unfortunately there is nothing that can be done about human nature 💔💔💔

You have to prove that gambling is a fraud, take the case of the lottery, here in our country the lottery is very transparent, the ball where the marked numbers weigh every one of them, and the flow of the air and the suction are inspected to make sure everything is fair and transparent, a casino platform should make sure that the results and the bets are beyond question because casinos are being run on trust, they are not in the business of making people that you can win, you can win it's just the house has an edge and you need a bit of extra luck to beat the house.


Title: Re: Woes of gambling
Post by: Crypt0Gore on January 09, 2024, 11:35:20 AM
You my friend already find your answer to what gambling really is, if you believe in this then quit gambling, it's very easy to do in your case because you have seen the true color of gambling.

I believe gambling is more favorable to the casino, because its easier to lose since it's a game of luck, but this is different from your own side of view, casino is not a scam place where they intentionally extort money from gamblers.

What they are trying to sell gamblers is luck, and it's something that doesn't come always, it's like saying we can make you rich but you need to get lucky, and those times that you failed, they make money and when you win, they lose money, the casinos are just smarter honestly, because the chances of winning is small, it's LUCK anyway.


Title: Re: Woes of gambling
Post by: Natsuu on January 09, 2024, 11:58:12 AM
Right. While casinos are designed to have an edge, it's essential to acknowledge that gambling involves risk, and outcomes are ultimately based on chance. Individuals participate voluntarily, and some may indeed win, but overall, the house does have a statistical advantage. It's crucial for people to gamble responsibly and be aware of the inherent risks.


Title: Re: Woes of gambling
Post by: carlfebz2 on January 09, 2024, 12:23:23 PM
gambling is a fraud that has been used to trick people into believing that their choices matter it does not everyone that gambles is just there to make money for the casino unfortunately there is nothing that can be done about human nature
If gambling is fraud and that's what you believe in then you're free to not play. We have our own way of thinking and no one coerce as to bet in the casino, it is our choice. Therefore we have an option to stop or continue to play if we are satisfied despite of having losses.

This is the reason why it's crucial to know how gambling works. Keep in mind to have less expectation gaining. Because there's no assurance to profit in gambling since luck has a major factor in order to win. On the other side, there's a house edge since casino is a business and that's how the operator make money. If there are many players and losers then more revenue for their business. Thus, it's up to us if we still want to gamble knowing we can lose our money if we use it in gambling.
We arent forced to play gambling on which if you do saw and believed that it wasnt that fair in the first place then you could always opt not to play and its up to our own choice whether we would really be playing or not and it would really be that according into your choice. Just as said that no one is forcing you to believe that it was fair or not, but one things for sure that house do always win at the end and it wont really be that something shocking that they would really be having the upperhand or advantage when it comes to long time duration type of playing or doing gambling because if you do keep on pushing your luck
then HE would really be your main enemy and if you are lucky then its good but if not then expect for a total blown out.

Playing gambling isnt bad as long you do make yourself that pretty much aware about the risks involved into it, if you dont then expect that you would be experiencing the worst.
Play responsibly and you wont really be that ending up miserable and just play for fun.


Title: Re: Woes of gambling
Post by: Jody.Drummer on January 09, 2024, 12:41:35 PM
In casino gambling, the casino owner has a greater chance of winning, but that doesn't mean players don't have a chance to win, it all depends on how we manage the game, the most important thing is how we manage the game time, when we start and when we have to end. sometimes players are too greedy and lose their money

It's clear, because after all gambling is a business built by the bookie to profit from losing gamblers and that's why the percentage of wins for gamblers is much smaller than the risk of losing and also of course you are right that it doesn't mean gamblers don't have a chance to win, after all it has been proven that every gambler can definitely win a certain amount but what must be noted is that there is absolutely no consistent word in winning from gambling because it all really depends on your luck at that time.

So it is clear because the casino is a business built by the bookie, it is only natural that more people lose than win, because the logic is how can you get a lot of wins while on the other hand you are one of the targets that will be defeated by the casino through the randomness of the system or algorithm applied by the casino, it doesn't make sense does it? So that's why we often hear that gambling is a game of probability that should not be played seriously or should not be taken seriously because this is nothing more than a game without having any certainty, we can see many people who are excessive in their approach to gambling who ultimately experience a downturn in terms of the number of defeats and that's natural.


Title: Re: Woes of gambling
Post by: virasisog on January 09, 2024, 12:45:57 PM
Take casino games for example especially jackpot casino games there is no way you can tell me that all of them are structured in such a way that they randomly always make money for the house if you ask me gambling is a fraud that has been used to trick people into believing that their choices matter it does not everyone that gambles is just there to make money for the casino unfortunately there is nothing that can be done about human nature 💔💔💔

Casino operators are not imposing everyone to gamble and it's our own choice to gamble or not. People are already aware of the fact that the house always win by the end of the day. It's just a matter of luck, it may not be pleasing but there are people who's life were changed because of a jackpot win. This is also one of the reasons why people like to take risk gambling away their money, it's just greed that pushes more people to fall and get trapped gambling away all their money.


Title: Re: Woes of gambling
Post by: Dewi Aries on January 09, 2024, 02:00:46 PM
Take casino games for example especially jackpot casino games there is no way you can tell me that all of them are structured in such a way that they randomly always make money for the house if you ask me gambling is a fraud that has been used to trick people into believing that their choices matter it does not everyone that gambles is just there to make money for the casino unfortunately there is nothing that can be done about human nature 💔💔💔

Casino operators are not imposing everyone to gamble and it's our own choice to gamble or not. People are already aware of the fact that the house always win by the end of the day. It's just a matter of luck, it may not be pleasing but there are people who's life were changed because of a jackpot win. This is also one of the reasons why people like to take risk gambling away their money, it's just greed that pushes more people to fall and get trapped gambling away all their money.

There is no basis for the casino to force many people to gamble because it is impossible, gambling is done based on oneself and one's own will, hence the addiction, loss and misery that one experiences or obtains because of one's own actions. and indeed I also think that those who are addicted to gambling are aware of the losses they experience, but they still gamble to get big wins which might change their lives drastically, because many people think they can get rich quickly by gambling and of course this is not true.

Their mindset is wrong towards gambling, which makes them addicted to gambling driven by greed, as you said, because there are gamblers who win when gambling but they decide to continue gambling by increasing the bet amount because they are still sure they can get a bigger win. , and this is one of the incentives for greed, they become thirsty for bigger and bigger wins, just keep going like that, in my opinion, if you have got a profitable win, you should just cash it in and leave gambling, don't provoke misery because of gambling.


Title: Re: Woes of gambling
Post by: Odohu on January 09, 2024, 03:02:25 PM
Take casino games for example especially jackpot casino games there is no way you can tell me that all of them are structured in such a way that they randomly always make money for the house if you ask me gambling is a fraud that has been used to trick people into believing that their choices matter it does not everyone that gambles is just there to make money for the casino unfortunately there is nothing that can be done about human nature 💔💔💔
Your tone is that of someone with a very bad experience in gambling. Just that I don't actually agree with all you have said because I know people who have actually made real money from gambling.

Gambling can be painful for people who do not play with caution, people who do not plan their finances very well. But with proper risk management and good analysis,  one can make nice money from gambling.


Title: Re: Woes of gambling
Post by: danherbias07 on January 09, 2024, 03:20:58 PM
Cool down. Maybe you are just mad after a bad losing streak. :D
Well, they are all rigged wherever you go because it isn't charity. And, if they keep the game clean, they are going to be bankrupt. This is a business brother and it ain't going to be easy to win against them.
Now, all we have is an opportunity, just one chance to get a good multi win then we can get out. There are lots of stories of gamblers who already made some money because they coincidentally hit the jackpot by surprise. All we need is to find a gambling site that will really pay, a reputable one that will give those prizes as how it was said.
When it comes to winning, it will always be difficult, especially with casino games. But you always have options. Most online casinos now offer betting lines for sports, Esports, and other games that you could enjoy. So, pick your own poison but don't expect to make daily income from it. It's gambling, not a job.


Title: Re: Woes of gambling
Post by: lovesmayfamilis on January 09, 2024, 03:54:51 PM
I will not judge people who like to get on their nerves by trying their luck one day and playing in a casino. Sometimes you can have fun changing the picture in your everyday life. But we need to understand that when playing, we must be prepared for any results, so if we lose, we must be able to stop in time.
But when excitement overshadows everything and a person ceases to be adequate, putting all his last property on the line, this is where urgent help is needed so as not to lose the person’s health and sometimes his life.
What should choose to avoid going to such extremes? You need to know your temperament, and being a very hot gambler, limit your territory and not approach the casino.


Title: Re: Woes of gambling
Post by: len01 on January 09, 2024, 04:43:40 PM
not all gambling deceives gamblers but it all depends on how a gambler thinks. what this means is that a gambling site has large traffic and has a good reputation and there are still gamblers who feel that they are being cheated. I'm sure they just misunderstand gambling.
if a gambler who has a healthy mind will certainly not think that he is being cheated by gambling because they think that if gambling really wins, it is just a game to try your luck with a small amount of money that you can afford to lose and if you are not lucky, just think of it as entertainment because it only costs you money small amounts of money that you can afford to lose.

except for gamblers who have negative thoughts or perhaps have crazy thoughts starting from considering gambling as a way to get money and gambling with big money thinking that if they gamble with big money they will get a big win but when they lose the gambler will brag about being cheated by gambling.

unless you gamble using small money but betting on a scam casino site and that's the fact that certain gambling cheats you doesn't mean all gambling is scam.


Title: Re: Woes of gambling
Post by: lixer on January 09, 2024, 05:53:32 PM
I won't tell you that OP because there's never like that. You won't find a business where all (write whatever you like here, for example restaurants, banks...) are fair and structured the way they claim they are. It's the same with casinos that sometimes scam you, which is why we tell people to use due diligence. You should always check reviews, look for scam accusations and so on.
The majority of casinos aren't scams, just mathematically designed to make some money, but most people can't do math and don't understand it.
As long as they are legit, I think they are fair. And it's normal that they have some advantages because they are paying a lot of expenses to run their business. Not all reviews and scam accusations are true but some are only too good to be true. So, it's also best to not rely on one source or feedback but we should also check the other, to have a better judgment and to reduce the chance of being fooled. It must be easy to create a scam casino than the legit ones and then even if a casino is legit, it will still be hard for the majority to be successful and they can end up as a scam later on.

There are winning percentages shown apart from the odds. I don't think even a normal person won't understand it. It's just they are only hooked in the game and they are after the high-odds game as the return for it is also high.


Title: Re: Woes of gambling
Post by: Marykeller on January 09, 2024, 06:56:16 PM
Take casino games for example especially jackpot casino games there is no way you can tell me that all of them are structured in such a way that they randomly always make money for the house if you ask me gambling is a fraud that has been used to trick people into believing that their choices matter it does not everyone that gambles is just there to make money for the casino unfortunately there is nothing that can be done about human nature
If gambling should be a fraud as you call it to be, almost all country's governments would have placed a ban on it, telling their citizens to stay clear of it because of the fraud they find about it. But here we are, no countries have called out gambling to be a fraud. What we normally see is the instructions of gamblers to gamble responsibly and they should be above 18 years old before they start gambling.

For you to come up with this outrageous claim that gambling is fraud sounds funny because nobody has thought or experienced it to be that way because everyone who wins in it, is paid according to their winnings.


Title: Re: Woes of gambling
Post by: Agbamoni on January 09, 2024, 09:21:56 PM
Take casino games for example especially jackpot casino games there is no way you can tell me that all of them are structured in such a way that they randomly always make money for the house if you ask me gambling is a fraud that has been used to trick people into believing that their choices matter it does not everyone that gambles is just there to make money for the casino unfortunately there is nothing that can be done about human nature 💔💔💔
Your tone is that of someone with a very bad experience in gambling. Just that I don't actually agree with all you have said because I know people who have actually made real money from gambling.

Gambling can be painful for people who do not play with caution, people who do not plan their finances very well. But with proper risk management and good analysis,  one can make nice money from gambling.
Good reply Odohu. People tend to generalize thins because of their experience. Everybody is different. And in as much as people are losing in gambling on a daily basis there are people who are also winning on a daily basis. The casinos games he talked about people do win every day in it. Some games in casinos are won by luck while some are won with logic or i would say consistency in understanding how it is being played.

There are things that every gambler needs to understand and there are procedures that a gambling needs to follow to avoid some certain hinderances in wining or ending a gambling section with profit. Which one is poor management of finances. Another is lack of discipline and failure to restrict form gambling when they have finished a gambling section. If a gambler can manage all this risk, then he would have more success that loss.


Title: Re: Woes of gambling
Post by: swogerino on January 09, 2024, 09:30:27 PM
Take casino games for example especially jackpot casino games there is no way you can tell me that all of them are structured in such a way that they randomly always make money for the house if you ask me gambling is a fraud that has been used to trick people into believing that their choices matter it does not everyone that gambles is just there to make money for the casino unfortunately there is nothing that can be done about human nature 💔💔💔

Well it may look like that but the casinos keep track of their highest win in their games,I am not talking about specific jackpot games but most reputable casinos have a table of Big and Lucky wins that offer to show people that there have been people who have won big with their gambling,I won myself last Friday x11339 multiplier,my highest so far but there are people who have hit well over x40.000 multiplier or more which I at least consider the same as hitting a jackpot depending on the amount you have bet.Of course in the long run the games make money for the casino but during this time luck is completely random and make some people happy along the way,of course the amount of people happy is very small compared to the astronomical big number of unhappy people.


Title: Re: Woes of gambling
Post by: uneng on January 09, 2024, 09:46:11 PM
Take casino games for example especially jackpot casino games there is no way you can tell me that all of them are structured in such a way that they randomly always make money for the house
Results are random, having their legitimacy ensured by provably fair mechanism. If the casino doesn't have this feature, avoid it. However, there is something else you must take into consideration: casinos also have a house edge playing on their favour on long run. You are never playing with equal chances against them (50% vs. 50%), rather they are always one step ahead, usually with something around 51% or 52% against 49%-48% for you. For that reason, you might have the perception results aren't random, because they are always profiting on long term. Results are indeed random, but the house edge factor prevents you from making long term progress at casino games.

if you ask me gambling is a fraud that has been used to trick people into believing that their choices matter it does not everyone that gambles is just there to make money for the casino unfortunately there is nothing that can be done about human nature 💔💔💔
Well, if a gambler doesn't know how casinos work, especially from the mathematical point of view, it's not casino's fault at all. The requirement for every activities you are going to execute in your life is to, first and foremost, understand how it basically works, what you can expect from it, what the risks are. You always have a choice, you aren't forced to gamble. So make your choice wisely based on concrete evidences and decisions which you won't regret later.


Title: Re: Woes of gambling
Post by: Sandra_hakeem on January 09, 2024, 09:51:59 PM
I'm pretty sure most people knew that already but you know gambling is not something that guarantee you getting rich any way. But there's a reason they called it jackpot. You know gambling all about luck or that you might be lucky enough to hit the jackpot that can cover the funds gambling have eaten from you. Come to think of it if everyone is winning how will the casino pay. Through those losses most casino normally use to pay for others wins. Aslong there's winner they will always be losers.
exactly... They all know they won't get lucky at the first try, but they keep wagering - some would blatantly say that the effectiveness and frequency of a gambler guarantees their possible wins ... haven't they seen cases where people keep wagering all their household items, including the house itself without any single wins??... How then is this whole shiii Not about luck? The best advice I would give to anyone gambling routinely would be to either desist totally or have a personal understanding of playing strictly for fun...

Sandra 🧑‍🦰


Title: Re: Woes of gambling
Post by: maydna on January 09, 2024, 10:15:31 PM
Gambling provides an advantage for the house, and we actually already know that, but we still gamble because we want to make money from gambling. Many gamblers try to make money, but unfortunately, many of them experience defeat when gambling. They have been aware of this since before they gambled, but because their desire is stronger than the reality they have seen, that is what makes them still decide to gamble. People believe they can make money from gambling even though before they win, they have to lose first. There is no guarantee that they can win big after losing big, but that doesn't stop them from continuing to gamble.


Title: Re: Woes of gambling
Post by: Sanugarid on January 09, 2024, 10:28:36 PM
Take casino games for example especially jackpot casino games there is no way you can tell me that all of them are structured in such a way that they randomly always make money for the house if you ask me gambling is a fraud that has been used to trick people into believing that their choices matter it does not everyone that gambles is just there to make money for the casino unfortunately there is nothing that can be done about human nature 💔💔💔

I'm not sure what you're saying, there is no easy money, everyone works hard and that includes gambling. For others it's just easy money but no, your money will run out first before you experience a big win if you're lucky. Are you one of those who gamble to get rich? You only get rich in gambling when you hit the jackpot bro and I believe that there are people who hit the jackpot in gambling.


Title: Re: Woes of gambling
Post by: Antotena on January 09, 2024, 10:37:57 PM
Take casino games for example especially jackpot casino games there is no way you can tell me that all of them are structured in such a way that they randomly always make money for the house if you ask me gambling is a fraud that has been used to trick people into believing that their choices matter it does not everyone that gambles is just there to make money for the casino unfortunately there is nothing that can be done about human nature 💔💔💔

This man has lost all to gambling and he is blaming the system instead of looking back at the mistakes he made while playing. Firstly, you should know better than anyone that gambling particularly the casino games are based on luck and it's not about your strategy or any extra smart from the brain. That's said, while you stand a chance to win is the same way you stand a chance to lose and sometimes it's even way more to lose than for you to win so stop calling a fraud. If really it's a scam as you said, they will be canceled and stop by now because a lot of people will called for the ban.

If you don't know how to play jackpot, why not try other games and see. We have more than 30 active casino platforms on Bitcointalk and ttey are function with each with their customers coming playing and going, I don't think they are scam. Take your time and do as I say or maybe you should quit for your own mental health because if you continue like this, you get annoyed at every call of casino gambling.


Title: Re: Woes of gambling
Post by: topbitcoin on January 09, 2024, 10:55:09 PM
When we enter the world of gambling, maybe we can be the luckiest people, when we are given the opportunity to win big. Remembering that sometimes the winnings we get in gambling can be beyond our previous estimates because the amount can be many times the amount of the bet we placed previously. However, we still cannot deny that being able to win big in gambling is quite difficult to achieve. When gambling, we tend to lose more often than we win, and perhaps to win, we have to experience several losses first. So I conclude that losing in gambling is a certainty, while when it comes to winning it is just a possibility.

So it is true that gambling is an activity that has a fairly high level of risk and can be quite a detrimental activity. And if we feel addicted to gambling itself, this can have an extraordinary domino effect, which can make us miserable.


Title: Re: Woes of gambling
Post by: Smartvirus on January 09, 2024, 11:07:12 PM
~snipe~
You just might not have given much attention to your composure as, everything you’ve written clearly sounds like in the opposite. Not any less negative by the way but yeah, that’s how I read it.

Anyway, having yo believe that casino games are manipulated or programmed in such a way that, it doesn’t matter what’s your prediction, the house will always win, that’s not entirely true.
Most casino has a provable fair system to determine fairness in there game offerings and in most cases, it makes use of your own inputs to run some algorithms and the result is what the system displays at the end of a round.

I might agree with you that the house have got an edge over your prediction but, your inputs does matters and there is a deal of fairness in casino game offerings.


Title: Re: Woes of gambling
Post by: Accardo on January 09, 2024, 11:09:42 PM
Take casino games for example especially jackpot casino games there is no way you can tell me that all of them are structured in such a way that they randomly always make money for the house if you ask me gambling is a fraud that has been used to trick people into believing that their choices matter it does not everyone that gambles is just there to make money for the casino unfortunately there is nothing that can be done about human nature
If gambling should be a fraud as you call it to be, almost all country's governments would have placed a ban on it, telling their citizens to stay clear of it because of the fraud they find about it. But here we are, no countries have called out gambling to be a fraud. What we normally see is the instructions of gamblers to gamble responsibly and they should be above 18 years old before they start gambling.

For you to come up with this outrageous claim that gambling is fraud sounds funny because nobody has thought or experienced it to be that way because everyone who wins in it, is paid according to their winnings.

Gambling is not what Op thinks it is, but at some point one would wonder what gambling is actually about, due to the way people get lost in the process. Imagine players losing out their money and still are interested in throwing more money into the game. As gamblers we need to know or understand that our choices is at stake. The money we stake and the time spent gambling is of the player's decision. One way, we feel sad about the actions of addicted gamblers in our family and neighborhood. But since it's self inflicted, most people wouldn't care about the gambler's problem. Hence it gets to a point where the addicted person begins to feel left behind, and that nobody cares to save him from his troubles. Such people may begin to think of the way Op sees gambling, because it'll look to them that gambling has taken almost everything away from them, which is not a good idea.


Title: Re: Woes of gambling
Post by: Cryptomultiplier on January 09, 2024, 11:19:41 PM
When it concerns woes of gambling or the woes of a gambler, much is said than done to reduce gambling activities and addictions that have grown outta control.

A man lamented all through today of how he placed a bet and won only to see the game cancelled after winning. Although this is not gambling per se, still, one of the woes of gambling is just that steady rambling all day to anyone that listens, about how a game would have played out better , but it didn't.
The thought pattern during the rambling days will be flooded with how the game should have been instead of thinking in the present and making future plans.


Title: Re: Woes of gambling
Post by: bitzizzix on January 09, 2024, 11:45:30 PM
Actually gamblers are aware that the house or casino always wins, but basically. Humans have the instinct to seek sensation and excitement by gambling, even though there is a risk of losing money, people still like to gamble even though they know they cannot win because they are fascinated by the great hope of getting a big win.
And winnings or big winnings are real and not fraud, but this is a matter of luck, if you are unlucky you will always experience continuous losses because high expectations make you continue playing without caring that the house always wins.


Title: Re: Woes of gambling
Post by: taufik123 on January 09, 2024, 11:58:54 PM
-snip-
But since it's self inflicted, most people wouldn't care about the gambler's problem. Hence it gets to a point where the addicted person begins to feel left behind, and that nobody cares to save him from his troubles. Such people may begin to think of the way Op sees gambling, because it'll look to them that gambling has taken almost everything away from them, which is not a good idea.
Problem gambling like this that makes someone miserable will look more complex, and this will happen to any gambler who is too addicted.
They will feel devastated and feel like there is no chance anymore.
The role of people in their environment is very important so that there is no excessive sense of regret.

When they feel left behind and feel that no one cares about them, these slumped gamblers have almost crossed their limits.
At this point, brands will probably be aware of what they're already doing.
That way, it will be easier to release them from gambling addiction slowly.


Title: Re: Woes of gambling
Post by: Potato Chips on January 10, 2024, 12:02:14 AM
I guess you might feel wronged if you have the wrong expectations. Gambling should just be for entertainment like the feeling when you're trying your luck and not some sort of source of income. Most long time gamblers understands that and have no problems.

Also, the house edge is setup in a way where it's fair for both parties, casinos are businesses afterall. Should I say, it is setup in moderation -- for the lack of better word? for instance, as we know, house edge is more on the long run plus each game has a different percentage of house edge so if one is concerned, they should pick within the lowest ones.


Title: Re: Woes of gambling
Post by: Jody.Drummer on January 10, 2024, 12:32:58 AM
I guess you might feel wronged if you have the wrong expectations. Gambling should just be for entertainment like the feeling when you're trying your luck and not some sort of source of income. Most long time gamblers understands that and have no problems.

Also, the house edge is setup in a way where it's fair for both parties, casinos are businesses afterall. Should I say, it is setup in moderation -- for the lack of better word? for instance, as we know, house edge is more on the long run plus each game has a different percentage of house edge so if one is concerned, they should pick within the lowest ones.

True I think they can't lie about what they feel when they lose, one of the reasons is because of their mistake in putting their hopes or expectations in a place that basically does not have any certainty and guarantee and in addition in gambling the percentage of wins is much smaller than losses so obviously they will lose more and it is a very wrong approach if you put expectations on a victory that is clearly difficult to get. True, gambling should be a fun activity and not make you experience a lot of pressure due to too serious and too many experiments so that obviously the number of defeats must be more.

It is usually true that those who have the wrong mindset and do not have the right understanding of how gambling works are those newly arrived gamblers, the fact is that just by getting one win they can change their mindset such as believing that "gambling is a place to earn" when the victory is nothing but just because at the same time luck comes, well that's what I always remember that gambling is a profitable business for the casino, the casino organizes everything so it makes no sense if you come to earn while on the other hand this is a business for the casino, you can't fight the house and if you fight then you will lose a large amount like gambling addicts.


Title: Re: Woes of gambling
Post by: Hispo on January 10, 2024, 01:55:02 AM
Take casino games for example especially jackpot casino games there is no way you can tell me that all of them are structured in such a way that they randomly always make money for the house if you ask me gambling is a fraud that has been used to trick people into believing that their choices matter it does not everyone that gambles is just there to make money for the casino unfortunately there is nothing that can be done about human nature 💔💔💔

Actually, that is mostly what gambling is about, not having any choice or impact over the outcome of the session, otherwise it could not be classified as gambling, but as maybe a skill game of some sort. Also, you must be very new at gambling, otherwise you would be aware that there are ways which can be used to actually know whether a casino is being fair, by the use of cryptography and seeds.
Granted, not all providers are probably fair, but I still believe calling gambling in general a fraud is an exaggeration, since you are making special emphasis on casinos which offer jackpots to their gamblers, you should check a Thread which has been opened here in this section about a lucky gamblers hitting the jackpot and taking over 42 million dollars home in a luck slot spin. It is not a fraud as long as the casino can be verified and they indeed pay those who are lucky. As simple as that.


Title: Re: Woes of gambling
Post by: Reatim on January 10, 2024, 02:16:57 AM
Take casino games for example especially jackpot casino games there is no way you can tell me that all of them are structured in such a way that they randomly always make money for the house if you ask me gambling is a fraud that has been used to trick people into believing that their choices matter it does not everyone that gambles is just there to make money for the casino unfortunately there is nothing that can be done about human nature 💔💔💔
You does not pinpoint what you mean by here as it sounds contradicting , Jackpot casino is super random to win almost same as impossible so what does this mean to you? they are not structured to make money?
yeah Human nature to risk , human nature to try and being adventurous but implying this to question their motive in gambling is only answerable by that player only, I may say gambling is for fun? who cares about my motive right? i can also say I gamble to make money so what do you care? it is me mate and that is you, let us just all enjoy gambling to our own extent , it is your money , this is my money.
what is important that I am not asking money for you to gamble and same as you are .


Title: Re: Woes of gambling
Post by: arjunmujay on January 10, 2024, 02:35:07 AM
Take casino games for example especially jackpot casino games there is no way you can tell me that all of them are structured in such a way that they randomly always make money for the house if you ask me gambling is a fraud that has been used to trick people into believing that their choices matter it does not everyone that gambles is just there to make money for the casino unfortunately there is nothing that can be done about human nature 💔💔💔

Actually, that is mostly what gambling is about, not having any choice or impact over the outcome of the session, otherwise it could not be classified as gambling, but as maybe a skill game of some sort. Also, you must be very new at gambling, otherwise you would be aware that there are ways which can be used to actually know whether a casino is being fair, by the use of cryptography and seeds.
Granted, not all providers are probably fair, but I still believe calling gambling in general a fraud is an exaggeration, since you are making special emphasis on casinos which offer jackpots to their gamblers, you should check a Thread which has been opened here in this section about a lucky gamblers hitting the jackpot and taking over 42 million dollars home in a luck slot spin. It is not a fraud as long as the casino can be verified and they indeed pay those who are lucky. As simple as that.
from his statement I besides being new could have gotten a pretty big defeat in gambling. maybe just thinking about getting a lot of money from gambling without regard to the fun of playing gambling.
Gambling players who have been around for a long time will definitely have fun with their gambling choices and will definitely have very good financial management.


Title: Re: Woes of gambling
Post by: klidex on January 10, 2024, 07:25:08 AM
Take casino games for example especially jackpot casino games there is no way you can tell me that all of them are structured in such a way that they randomly always make money for the house if you ask me gambling is a fraud that has been used to trick people into believing that their choices matter it does not everyone that gambles is just there to make money for the casino unfortunately there is nothing that can be done about human nature 💔💔💔


I suggest that you should read the Responsible Gambling terms to educate you properly what is gambling for. Casino never trick players just make them play but rather player itself creates a delusion that can win the jackpot whenever they play that’s why they keep coming back.

Casino is not an income generator but rather a service that provides entertainment through gambling. There’s really no way to beat them or continuously get profit since all their games has a house edge advantage which guarantees casino profits even if they pay a jackpot prize to one user.
Thats what people who want to gamble or beginners who want to gamble must learn, that is, they have to learn to be responsible gambler so that they recognize what gambling is and what type can provide good luck. Indeed, sometime casinos seem to fool their users into continuing to gamble on their platform. But that doesn't mean they are cheating, but rather promoting game thats can be entertainment for the public, and maybe some people have too high expectation about big wins, which can lead to disappointment if they keep losing.

Of course, casinos only provide services, not open employment opportunities where they can earn money, and if you are lucky then you can win, but if not, you will experienced defeat. Don't ever experience misery in gambling because gambling is actually a game and don't gamble exceed your limit because it will make your life miserable.


Title: Re: Woes of gambling
Post by: carlisle1 on January 10, 2024, 07:44:05 AM
Take casino games for example especially jackpot casino games there is no way you can tell me that all of them are structured in such a way that they randomly always make money for the house if you ask me gambling is a fraud that has been used to trick people into believing that their choices matter it does not everyone that gambles is just there to make money for the casino unfortunately there is nothing that can be done about human nature 💔💔💔

Actually, that is mostly what gambling is about, not having any choice or impact over the outcome of the session, otherwise it could not be classified as gambling, but as maybe a skill game of some sort. Also, you must be very new at gambling, otherwise you would be aware that there are ways which can be used to actually know whether a casino is being fair, by the use of cryptography and seeds.
Granted, not all providers are probably fair, but I still believe calling gambling in general a fraud is an exaggeration, since you are making special emphasis on casinos which offer jackpots to their gamblers, you should check a Thread which has been opened here in this section about a lucky gamblers hitting the jackpot and taking over 42 million dollars home in a luck slot spin. It is not a fraud as long as the casino can be verified and they indeed pay those who are lucky. As simple as that.
from his statement I besides being new could have gotten a pretty big defeat in gambling. maybe just thinking about getting a lot of money from gambling without regard to the fun of playing gambling.
Gambling players who have been around for a long time will definitely have fun with their gambling choices and will definitely have very good financial management.

A responsible gambler can do that, enjoying every game that they played and not to focus to the winning money but focusing in how they gain
that entertainment that they are aiming before playing the game.

It's really tough to say that you can have both in each game you play, it will break the sentiment of gambling but instead like the post above said
it will be classified as game of strategy, maybe some may master the pattern but still they can suffer from defeats.

It's gambling and no one is assured aside from the house which always have the portion coming from the house edge.


Title: Re: Woes of gambling
Post by: KiaKia on January 10, 2024, 07:58:13 AM
The part you missed is the simplest of all, if gamblers around the world are not making money from gambling, casinos wont survive anymore because many gamblers would have quit.

As hard as it seem to win in gambling, the reason why many still have hope is because they know someone or a friend of a friend who just won some money in gambling, OP, people are still making money by gambling, if you think otherwise you should quit, it may be for the best reasons.

It will be your decision, not for many others, and some people will get more luckier than you, it's how this world is created, you will feel even more frustrated if you are jealous of them, not knowing that some people are created with the lucky stars.


Title: Re: Woes of gambling
Post by: Bitcoin_people on January 10, 2024, 08:40:02 AM
I believe that casino platforms do not cheat but we have seen many people win the jackpot. Users who won the jackpot certainly didn't lose their money but got rich just by gambling. But if you are constantly losing while gambling, then there are many mistakes in your bad game due to which you are not able to win bets. If you bet seriously with good understanding, you will surely win, and if you bet without understanding, you will surely lose. If the casino sites were cheating then of course no user would have deposited their money here, but most of the casino platforms are trustworthy. But you have to accept that gambling can make you lose money at any time and make money at any time.


Title: Re: Woes of gambling
Post by: ethereumhunter on January 10, 2024, 12:19:01 PM
I believe that casino platforms do not cheat but we have seen many people win the jackpot. Users who won the jackpot certainly didn't lose their money but got rich just by gambling. But if you are constantly losing while gambling, then there are many mistakes in your bad game due to which you are not able to win bets. If you bet seriously with good understanding, you will surely win, and if you bet without understanding, you will surely lose. If the casino sites were cheating then of course no user would have deposited their money here, but most of the casino platforms are trustworthy. But you have to accept that gambling can make you lose money at any time and make money at any time.
Trusted casinos will not cheat their members. Otherwise, the casino will lose its reputation and even be abandoned by its loyal members if caught cheating. Even though no one knows, the casino will not want to risk losing its reputation and for this reason, the casino always maintains its reputation well by not cheating its members. However, many of its members are greedy, which causes them to experience large losses and accuse the casino of cheating them even though it is their fault for not controlling and preventing them. If members understand this, they will try to limit their gambling games and will not risk losing a lot of money. They will try to use gambling as a pastime instead of using it as a place to make money because they know it will never be easy. They would rather have fun at gambling even though the result is that they lose rather than having to use a lot of money but they still experience losses but it is a lot of losses.


Title: Re: Woes of gambling
Post by: AicecreaME on January 10, 2024, 12:33:44 PM
There's no guaranteed winning in gambling and that's what makes it more exciting and thrilling. Most people are up for the cheap dopamine it provides. If you decided to gamble, then you better be ready for the consequences of your actions whether it may be a good or bad one. Benefits are surely fun to have, but there are also repercussions. So you should look after that as well and be on your guard to take it.

Gambling against the house will not really favor you most of the time, especially when playing luck based games. RTP is set differently in every casino which mostly favors the house instead of the player. But it doesn't mean that the player won't win too. You can win, as long as you have what it takes to win. Skills, strategies, determination, information, and luck. Sometimes it just needs one of those, and most of the times it needs the combination of it altogether. So depending on what you are playing, you must assess the risks and the rewards. If you can only let go a specific amount for a bet or play, then just bet that and nothing more to avoid regret.


Title: Re: Woes of gambling
Post by: Samlucky O on January 10, 2024, 12:42:49 PM
you might be Wright but even if its true should be virtual, colour, spin and win games those set of games are program games which you can be lucky at times and also not be lucky compeard to live games which is played by human. Like Premier League where humans can play and you can watch them live. So I believe that live game which is Premier League and others, is better off to gamble than program games which is probably Spain and win or colour games.


Title: Re: Woes of gambling
Post by: Ultegra134 on January 10, 2024, 01:54:56 PM
Trusted casinos will not cheat their members. Otherwise, the casino will lose its reputation and even be abandoned by its loyal members if caught cheating. Even though no one knows, the casino will not want to risk losing its reputation and for this reason, the casino always maintains its reputation well by not cheating its members. However, many of its members are greedy, which causes them to experience large losses and accuse the casino of cheating them even though it is their fault for not controlling and preventing them. If members understand this, they will try to limit their gambling games and will not risk losing a lot of money. They will try to use gambling as a pastime instead of using it as a place to make money because they know it will never be easy. They would rather have fun at gambling even though the result is that they lose rather than having to use a lot of money but they still experience losses but it is a lot of losses.
How can you know, though? There's no way to be 100% certain that a game is rigged; you cannot acquire the necessary evidence to prove that. I'm not quite sure if casinos would do that; some possibly would, but in my opinion, the scale tips in their favor; they're a business after all, and they need to make sure they're sustainable in order to stay afloat. Some games could possibly also have tiny percentage differences, making it not an exact 50/50 chance for the two parties. We're unsure how these games work and how they're developed; everything we say is based on pure assumptions. Gambling is entertaining and everything; however, it's 99% reliant on luck and human emotions, which casinos take advantage of.


Title: Re: Woes of gambling
Post by: shivansps on January 10, 2024, 10:27:49 PM
Take casino games for example especially jackpot casino games there is no way you can tell me that all of them are structured in such a way that they randomly always make money for the house if you ask me gambling is a fraud that has been used to trick people into believing that their choices matter it does not everyone that gambles is just there to make money for the casino unfortunately there is nothing that can be done about human nature 💔💔💔

Well, the casino does not say that everyone who takes part in their gambling will be successful in their gambling. If a person wants to know even a little, he will immediately understand that the chance of winning is very small and it is very difficult to calculate anything. Playing in a casino should most likely be for fun if someone can get satisfaction from playing in a casino and losing money over and over again


Title: Re: Woes of gambling
Post by: coin-investor on January 10, 2024, 11:14:13 PM
... if you ask me gambling is a fraud that has been used to trick people into believing that their choices matter it does not everyone that gambles is just there to make money for the casino unfortunately there is nothing that can be done about human nature 💔💔💔

It's not fraud its just how gambling works, gambling platforms are profit based platform they have an edge over all the players that's playing but that does not mean that no one wins in their platform, its just that there are more losers than winners.
A casino cannot be competitive if their data shows no one wins in their platform, people will verify every bets and see if they are accurate.
You are not supposed to make gambling in casinos as a day job, its an entertainment platform with a chance to make money while enjoying the game, the word here is chance not make.
So its better to forget about your projected winning and just enjoy the game, and if you're lucky you'll win the jackpot, luck and winnings comes when you least expect it, so enjoy and let winnings comes it will come when it will come.


Title: Re: Woes of gambling
Post by: Westinhome on January 10, 2024, 11:20:21 PM
I guess you might feel wronged if you have the wrong expectations. Gambling should just be for entertainment like the feeling when you're trying your luck and not some sort of source of income. Most long time gamblers understands that and have no problems.

Also, the house edge is setup in a way where it's fair for both parties, casinos are businesses afterall. Should I say, it is setup in moderation -- for the lack of better word? for instance, as we know, house edge is more on the long run plus each game has a different percentage of house edge so if one is concerned, they should pick within the lowest ones.

The gambler who expects more winning in the gambling site will lose the money he won by the luck.The basic principle of the gambling is satisfied by the minimum profit,the minimum or maximum profit in the game was based on the algorithm of the game.But the minimum and maximum winning for a betting was unpredictable.So if you feel of downward after the winning don’t hesitate to withdraw the funds in the gambling site to avoid of complete loss.Because once loss happened,it was hard to balance the money in your weekly expenses.Sometimes you need to sell the holding assets to mange loss.


Title: Re: Woes of gambling
Post by: Oilacris on January 10, 2024, 11:26:09 PM
... if you ask me gambling is a fraud that has been used to trick people into believing that their choices matter it does not everyone that gambles is just there to make money for the casino unfortunately there is nothing that can be done about human nature 💔💔💔

It's not fraud its just how gambling works, gambling platforms are profit based platform they have an edge over all the players that's playing but that does not mean that no one wins in their platform, its just that there are more losers than winners.
A casino cannot be competitive if their data shows no one wins in their platform, people will verify every bets and see if they are accurate.
You are not supposed to make gambling in casinos as a day job, its an entertainment platform with a chance to make money while enjoying the game, the word here is chance not make.
So its better to forget about your projected winning and just enjoy the game, and if you're lucky you'll win the jackpot, luck and winnings comes when you least expect it, so enjoy and let winnings comes it will come when it will come.
People are really just that way too skeptical on things on which if they do experiencing those consecutive losses then they would really be that normally be that having those kind of sayings
telling this and telling that as if that things are really that happening. It would really be that understandable that when it comes to house edge and advantage then they would really be having the advantage because they are the ones who do make some business on which it is understandable. Advantage in the way that it would really be fair because on the time that people would be finding out
that it was never been that fair then they would surely be flocking on into other places on which they do feel out that they arent that getting decieved or something that at huge disadvantage.


Title: Re: Woes of gambling
Post by: SeaCoinCollector. on January 11, 2024, 05:36:08 AM
It's understandable that the casino business has an advantage, especially when it comes to jackpot games. The way casinos are set up gives them a statistical edge that helps them make money over time. It's an important part of how they run their business. Even though the odds are clearly in favor of the house, some people do win, which is part of the appeal of gaming.

It's a real worry that people think gambling is a way to trick people into thinking their decisions count. A realistic knowledge of the risks and the house's advantage is very important for people who want to gamble. Setting boundaries and seeing gambling as fun instead of a surefire way to make money are some responsible ways to gamble that can help ease some of these worries. In the end, understanding how casino games work and making smart decisions are important for managing the complicated world of gambling.


Title: Re: Woes of gambling
Post by: retreat on January 11, 2024, 06:00:32 AM
If gamblers always win against the house, not a single casino in the world will survive, because casinos are a business and their goal is to make money. If you think that gambling is fraud, you can choose not to gamble, because no one is forcing you to gamble. But other people may think differently from you, other people may think that gambling can be a place for them to have fun or socialize with others and for that reason they still gamble to this day.


Title: Re: Woes of gambling
Post by: gabbie2010 on January 11, 2024, 06:07:06 AM
Take casino games for example especially jackpot casino games there is no way you can tell me that all of them are structured in such a way that they randomly always make money for the house if you ask me gambling is a fraud that has been used to trick people into believing that their choices matter it does not everyone that gambles is just there to make money for the casino unfortunately there is nothing that can be done about human nature 💔💔💔
Every casinos gambler wanted to try their own luck possibly they can hit a jackpot and win to be among the randomly pick, many of them are of view that they gamble for fun so unconcerned about the fact Casino make money and if those gamblers that visit casinos or gamble in Casino are not addicted or gamble responsibly I don't think there is anything wrong with that because it is personal decision, though I am not a casino gambler and those who choose to bet in casino has their own reasons for doing so moreso that type of gambling has been existing for years and it would continue to exist as far as human being exist.


Title: Re: Woes of gambling
Post by: Samlucky O on January 11, 2024, 06:31:49 AM
Take casino games for example especially jackpot casino games there is no way you can tell me that all of them are structured in such a way that they randomly always make money for the house if you ask me gambling is a fraud that has been used to trick people into believing that their choices matter it does not everyone that gambles is just there to make money for the casino unfortunately there is nothing that can be done about human nature 💔💔💔
One thing you should know is that gambling is not by force, and people playing gamble knows the risk involved. So saying Is a way of tricking i people i do not know of that. But I know that they always advice people to play gamble wisely by using their spear money. So I don't think their intention was for trucking people they wouldn't have given such an advice to its customers. So gambling is a choice and not by force because nobody forced anyone to gamble.


Title: Re: Woes of gambling
Post by: YuginKadoya on January 11, 2024, 07:23:19 AM
Take casino games for example especially jackpot casino games there is no way you can tell me that all of them are structured in such a way that they randomly always make money for the house if you ask me gambling is a fraud that has been used to trick people into believing that their choices matter it does not everyone that gambles is just there to make money for the casino unfortunately there is nothing that can be done about human nature 💔💔💔

That is the Scary part about gambling there is this risk but on top of that some gamblers know the risk but they still enjoy playing it, well, this is because even if the house is always winning there is this percentage of still winning it, and that is what people like about it getting into risking it with gambling, and that percentage of win is what gamblers wants to experience the feeling of winning is something they want,

Well, it is really a random coincidence that they are winning but because of that they are mostly enjoying playing it because of that small percentage of winning in gambling in casinos, and sometimes that random and rare chance has acted as a source of their libido when they hit them if they win it, in some cases some people really hits differently with gambling winnings, for sure this people often become addicted to it, and there is the time that they could not control the urge in playing gambling.



Title: Re: Woes of gambling
Post by: ethereumhunter on January 11, 2024, 07:39:48 AM
How can you know, though? There's no way to be 100% certain that a game is rigged; you cannot acquire the necessary evidence to prove that. I'm not quite sure if casinos would do that; some possibly would, but in my opinion, the scale tips in their favor; they're a business after all, and they need to make sure they're sustainable in order to stay afloat. Some games could possibly also have tiny percentage differences, making it not an exact 50/50 chance for the two parties. We're unsure how these games work and how they're developed; everything we say is based on pure assumptions. Gambling is entertaining and everything; however, it's 99% reliant on luck and human emotions, which casinos take advantage of.
Indeed, there is no way to know whether a game is rigged or not because we, as gamblers, will have difficulty finding out about it. But as long as we gamble at a trusted casino, the casino will not cheat its members because it concerns the reputation they have built long ago. They will not destroy their reputation to cheat their members to get more money and it is not worth the consequences they will receive. They can harm their own business, especially if the casino becomes bigger than before. If you really suspect it, you can ask the casino or if you feel the casino is cheating you, you can move to another casino that you think is more trustworthy than that casino. An honest business will be able to develop better, and its customers will be able to judge that, which happens in all businesses, both online and offline.


Title: Re: Woes of gambling
Post by: agustina2 on January 11, 2024, 07:49:24 AM
Take casino games for example especially jackpot casino games there is no way you can tell me that all of them are structured in such a way that they randomly always make money for the house if you ask me gambling is a fraud that has been used to trick people into believing that their choices matter it does not everyone that gambles is just there to make money for the casino unfortunately there is nothing that can be done about human nature 💔💔💔

Gambling is not a fraud. It's just obviously designed that everything should be random and most likely results should not favor the gamblers. If gambling is that easy then it won't be called gambling in the first place. If you lose, don't blame the gambling in general but rather you just didn't hit your luck on that session. You should know in the first place where are you up to once you start gambling.

Casinos are also not forcing anyone to play. If you can't handle the stress of gambling, better find another activity.


Title: Re: Woes of gambling
Post by: Cookdata on January 11, 2024, 07:55:09 AM
Take casino games for example especially jackpot casino games there is no way you can tell me that all of them are structured in such a way that they randomly always make money for the house if you ask me gambling is a fraud that has been used to trick people into believing that their choices matter it does not everyone that gambles is just there to make money for the casino unfortunately there is nothing that can be done about human nature 💔💔💔

Congratulations on finding out that gambling is a scam but you went ahead and still played it many times, I guess it is safe to say that you are the scam here, you know how it was structured and never designed to really favour those outside the house and yet you are crying like a baby crying for a milkshake to cool down the temperature, next do a due diligence about something about it before going fully on it. Again, the fact that you mention jackpot makes it more that you want to use your small balance to win a big amount, the money you never worked for, get work next time. :-X :-X

Actually gamblers are aware that the house or casino always wins, but basically. Humans have the instinct to seek sensation and excitement by gambling, even though there is a risk of losing money, people still like to gamble even though they know they cannot win because they are fascinated by the great hope of getting a big win.
And winnings or big winnings are real and not fraud, but this is a matter of luck, if you are unlucky you will always experience continuous losses because high expectations make you continue playing without caring that the house always wins.

It's not like gambling is a place where money is guaranteed to be made; in fact, many casinos and gambling platforms would have closed down if the system had not been designed that way. The player's money is what fluctuates between losses and profits; otherwise, there would never be any casinos left today. Because of the way entropy operates, gambling is primarily reliant on luck. For this reason, I prefer to wager on player performance in sports like basketball and hockey rather than casino games, where I can make more informed decisions based on player performance than just pure luck.


Title: Re: Woes of gambling
Post by: Saisher on January 11, 2024, 08:26:05 AM
Take casino games for example especially jackpot casino games there is no way you can tell me that all of them are structured in such a way that they randomly always make money for the house if you ask me gambling is a fraud that has been used to trick people into believing that their choices matter it does not everyone that gambles is just there to make money for the casino unfortunately there is nothing that can be done about human nature 💔💔💔
It's about probability and house edge, it's not all gamblers have to lose in casinos it's just that the probability for a gambler to win is low and the house makes a profit because of the house edge, there's always gamblers winning in gambling it's just when it comes to numbers the casino has an edge for every $100 the house takes $70 and the gamblers have to share the remaining pot.
The casino cannot exist for a long time without them having winners, gamblers will doubt that they are cheating their players.


Title: Re: Woes of gambling
Post by: EarnOnVictor on January 11, 2024, 08:40:00 AM
I guess you might feel wronged if you have the wrong expectations. Gambling should just be for entertainment like the feeling when you're trying your luck and not some sort of source of income. Most long time gamblers understands that and have no problems.

Also, the house edge is setup in a way where it's fair for both parties, casinos are businesses afterall. Should I say, it is setup in moderation -- for the lack of better word? for instance, as we know, house edge is more on the long run plus each game has a different percentage of house edge so if one is concerned, they should pick within the lowest ones.

The gambler who expects more winning in the gambling site will lose the money he won by the luck.The basic principle of the gambling is satisfied by the minimum profit,the minimum or maximum profit in the game was based on the algorithm of the game.But the minimum and maximum winning for a betting was unpredictable.So if you feel of downward after the winning don’t hesitate to withdraw the funds in the gambling site to avoid of complete loss.Because once loss happened,it was hard to balance the money in your weekly expenses.Sometimes you need to sell the holding assets to mange loss.
I don't like to be preaching fear in gambling, all I want people to be aware of is the risk involved in gambling, and this must be known before they start it at all as it will help them to plan for everything beforehand. Gambling is not easy, we have to get everything prepared, and we need to get our minds and calculations prepared, which is better than being afraid. Imagine the gambler who deposited $200 and started wagering with $10 per betting, such can never be affected by any emotions especially when the total sum is even nothing to him as he can afford to lose it. This kind of mindset cannot go in line with your advice that entertain fear when it comes to winning and losing as a single loss win means nothing, and neither would a single loss be.

Your view is as though the gambler wagers all the whole $200 at once, that is so bad and is void of any proper managerial thinking in gambling which will definitely cause fear for the gambler especially if that money is such that they can't afford to lose as some gamblers do gamble with their entire money which will ever cause their gambling psychology to be bad. As such, they can stop gambling immediately after a successful win as they might probably lose back the money. But to those who plan their gambling lifestyle better, it will be nothing to them as they continue to win and lose and have fun with it.


Title: Re: Woes of gambling
Post by: cozytrade on January 11, 2024, 09:18:54 AM
I will tell you first, If gambling is the cause of your loss then it is better for you not to gamble. Gambling requires experience and patience, you must first understand how gambling can make you profitable while avoiding suffering. Online casinos should be avoided to avoid your gambling woes. Because there are many dishonest online casinos. Where your luck is defeated by deception. Online casinos are in business for their income. Gambling in online casinos is sure to make you lose. Online casinos are set up in such a way that if you win once, you have to be prepared to lose ten times. I think you can follow football or cricket betting sites instead of focusing on online casinos to avoid all these frauds and sufferings in gambling.


Title: Re: Woes of gambling
Post by: Jody.Drummer on January 11, 2024, 11:38:43 AM
Take casino games for example especially jackpot casino games there is no way you can tell me that all of them are structured in such a way that they randomly always make money for the house if you ask me gambling is a fraud that has been used to trick people into believing that their choices matter it does not everyone that gambles is just there to make money for the casino unfortunately there is nothing that can be done about human nature 💔💔💔

Gambling is not a fraud. It's just obviously designed that everything should be random and most likely results should not favor the gamblers. If gambling is that easy then it won't be called gambling in the first place. If you lose, don't blame the gambling in general but rather you just didn't hit your luck on that session. You should know in the first place where are you up to once you start gambling.

Casinos are also not forcing anyone to play. If you can't handle the stress of gambling, better find another activity.

True, if they assume that the casino has cheated them because they have lost then obviously it is not a problem but it is a risk that must be accepted by all gamblers, from the beginning we must understand that gambling is about winning and losing and that means it is very silly if you lose and then you blame the casino for fraud, I would say that they are one of those people who do not have any understanding of gambling but want to get involved and want to win, or simply a loser who wants to win but does not want to accept the risk of losing.

Unless it's a problem like your account being frozen or the withdrawal process not being approved then obviously that's a problem and you can file an accusation that the casino you're playing at is fraudulent. In terms of the final outcome between whether you win or lose it's really unknown and as you say that if we lose then the answer is very simple that we are away from luck so that we become one of the gamblers who lose in the session, it all comes back to each gambler, if for example they are not ready for the possibility of risk then obviously it's better not to get involved, it's that simple.


Title: Re: Woes of gambling
Post by: Accardo on January 11, 2024, 11:48:34 AM
Take casino games for example especially jackpot casino games there is no way you can tell me that all of them are structured in such a way that they randomly always make money for the house if you ask me gambling is a fraud that has been used to trick people into believing that their choices matter it does not everyone that gambles is just there to make money for the casino unfortunately there is nothing that can be done about human nature 💔💔💔
It's about probability and house edge, it's not all gamblers have to lose in casinos it's just that the probability for a gambler to win is low and the house makes a profit because of the house edge, there's always gamblers winning in gambling it's just when it comes to numbers the casino has an edge for every $100 the house takes $70 and the gamblers have to share the remaining pot.
The casino cannot exist for a long time without them having winners, gamblers will doubt that they are cheating their players.

Casinos are providing a service people need or want. Gamblers are indirectly paying for the casino businesses to prosper, and if the house doesn't take those profits, they wouldn't be able to run the business appropriately. Hence, gamblers are not required to have in mind the winnings, as it's just a method of keeping gamblers in the game. So, they won't need to stress themselves out of playing casino games. Winning it self helps the gambler to continue playing, if they was no winning a gambler will not engage in gambling anymore. Psychologically, we don't participate for a long time in something that doesn't give us some rewards in exchange for our time and dedication. Stating the casinos are only focused on taking the money is not a lie. Players should also maintain similar energy in accepting the fun and thrills.


Title: Re: Woes of gambling
Post by: Pokapoka124 on January 11, 2024, 10:59:09 PM
Take casino games for example especially jackpot casino games there is no way you can tell me that all of them are structured in such a way that they randomly always make money for the house if you ask me gambling is a fraud that has been used to trick people into believing that their choices matter it does not everyone that gambles is just there to make money for the casino unfortunately there is nothing that can be done about human nature 💔💔💔
For those who do not understand how casino games work (I doubt if there is anyone here who doesn’t), this may come as a surprise. It is true that the odds are stacked against the gambler and the house has the advantage but that does not mean that the machines are rigged. The systems are only designed to give the casino a house edge.
This doesn’t stop us from trying our luck at gambling. Gambling is a form of entertainment. Don’t get carried away by it.


Title: Re: Woes of gambling
Post by: Casdinyard on January 11, 2024, 11:06:51 PM
Take casino games for example especially jackpot casino games there is no way you can tell me that all of them are structured in such a way that they randomly always make money for the house if you ask me gambling is a fraud that has been used to trick people into believing that their choices matter it does not everyone that gambles is just there to make money for the casino unfortunately there is nothing that can be done about human nature 💔💔💔
The problem is that you think of gambling as another way for you to earn money. Which is why you think of gambling as something fraudulent. If you perceive gambling as yet another way for you to entertain yourself when the other options out there just don't seem to work I don't think you'd have the same outlook in life. I don't mean to victim blame but the fact of the matter is that every house/casino must have their edge or what you may think as a finger on the scale, otherwise they'd run themselves out of business. At the end of the day casinos are companies that feeds employees and fattens the pockets of its executives so they have a business model to complete.

The problem lies within the victim mindset of "gambling site/casino bad cause they have edge and they don't give me money ooga booga" which is just preposterous. Every casino that I've been with doesn't advertise or smother you with "Hey I'd make you fucking rich in a heartbeat so bet all your shit on me". And you might argue bonuses and deposit perks but that's nothing, especially when you consider that for other business models especially in the entertainment industry they also offer BOGO deals which work in the same melody as these deposit bonuses. But going back I never saw casinos advertise themselves/market themselves beyond the typical shtick of "you'll have fun here" and nothing else. The part where you think you'll make money from them lies solely upon your poor judgement skills. Not here to whiteknight on Casinos cause truth be told gambling is not even in my top 5 things to do while I'm free. Just tired of seeing shit like these when the decision to bet and play came from you in the first place.


Title: Re: Woes of gambling
Post by: irhact on January 11, 2024, 11:29:28 PM
Take casino games for example especially jackpot casino games there is no way you can tell me that all of them are structured in such a way that they randomly always make money for the house if you ask me gambling is a fraud that has been used to trick people into believing that their choices matter it does not everyone that gambles is just there to make money for the casino unfortunately there is nothing that can be done about human nature 💔💔💔

The house has the edge when gambling, they make the most money and there's nothing that can be done about this as they're the ones setting the odds. Many gamblers think they're able to win the house but they keep losing and making money for the house. As a gambler we have to accept that the house will always make money from use and enjoy gambling. Gambling should be done as way of entertaining ourselves and any profits we make should be accepted as a bonus.

We can make money for ourselves when we gamble, some individual have luck and they make more profits from gambling but this doesn't favor everybody. Some individuals are lucky while others aren't. Gambling is favouring some individuals while it's not favouring others. Some individuals have made some much money from gambling that other think they can follow them and make but when they start gambling, they realised it's not as they thought.


Title: Re: Woes of gambling
Post by: IvugeoEvolutionCoin on January 12, 2024, 02:47:55 AM
I will tell you first, If gambling is the cause of your loss then it is better for you not to gamble. Gambling requires experience and patience, you must first understand how gambling can make you profitable while avoiding suffering. Online casinos should be avoided to avoid your gambling woes. Because there are many dishonest online casinos. Where your luck is defeated by deception. Online casinos are in business for their income. Gambling in online casinos is sure to make you lose. Online casinos are set up in such a way that if you win once, you have to be prepared to lose ten times. I think you can follow football or cricket betting sites instead of focusing on online casinos to avoid all these frauds and sufferings in gambling.
I mostly bet on football or cricket betting sites. I mostly use football or cricket betting sites because the odds of winning on these sites are very high. If you bet in an online casino, you won't win much. Some things.  There are casino sites that will give you a lot of bonus at first and give you a lot of hope of winning bets but at the last minute you will lose all your money there.


Title: Re: Woes of gambling
Post by: FinePoine0 on January 12, 2024, 03:01:30 AM
Take casino games for example especially jackpot casino games there is no way you can tell me that all of them are structured in such a way that they randomly always make money for the house if you ask me gambling is a fraud that has been used to trick people into believing that their choices matter it does not everyone that gambles is just there to make money for the casino unfortunately there is nothing that can be done about human nature 💔💔💔

Gambling makes people addicted, those who gamble are now addicted to gambling. And there are many who gamble for fun, common jackpots people participate in because of the temptation that once luck opens, the future will surely be good. I have seen many online acquaintances participate in the jackpot and they always participate in the jackpot. I have usually hit the jackpot twice but never managed to win. That's why now I gamble 4-5 days a week and retire the rest of the days.


Title: Re: Woes of gambling
Post by: Iroh on January 12, 2024, 04:42:49 AM
Gambling makes people addicted, those who gamble are now addicted to gambling. And there are many who gamble for fun, common jackpots people participate in because of the temptation that once luck opens, the future will surely be good. I have seen many online acquaintances participate in the jackpot and they always participate in the jackpot. I have usually hit the jackpot twice but never managed to win. That's why now I gamble 4-5 days a week and retire the rest of the days.


Gambling doesn’t make people addicted, rather people are the one who get addicted to gambling. A whole lot of people today gamble and are responsible about it too. Addiction doesn’t emerge just cause you gamble. Compulsive gambling on the other hand, often done by irresponsible gamblers could get such gamblers addicted in no time. You mentioned it yourself. There are folks who gamble for fun. Surely those folks aren’t addicts.

It’s crazy that people would rather seek to fault gambling for their financial woes and willfully ignore their roles in it all.


Title: Re: Woes of gambling
Post by: pinggoki on January 12, 2024, 04:49:55 AM
Take casino games for example especially jackpot casino games there is no way you can tell me that all of them are structured in such a way that they randomly always make money for the house if you ask me gambling is a fraud that has been used to trick people into believing that their choices matter it does not everyone that gambles is just there to make money for the casino unfortunately there is nothing that can be done about human nature 💔💔💔
Is it that hard for you to understand? The house has a capital for rewards so say they've put in a capital of 500k USD and that's their jackpot prize now they can price their tickets or the plays on that particular game to about 2 USD and people will think that it's such a cheap price to play and have a chance to win that much, now if there's 500k people that thinks this way then they're netting a 1m USD profit and in that process, the jackpot might not still even been won by any because the casinos are the ones that's setting it up so the chances of winning is so low. Gambling isn't a fraud but rigging your games so no one wins, is a fraud, gambling is a business at heart, it supplies the demand of the people to take risks.


Title: Re: Woes of gambling
Post by: abel1337 on January 12, 2024, 04:59:52 AM
Take casino games for example especially jackpot casino games there is no way you can tell me that all of them are structured in such a way that they randomly always make money for the house if you ask me gambling is a fraud that has been used to trick people into believing that their choices matter it does not everyone that gambles is just there to make money for the casino unfortunately there is nothing that can be done about human nature 💔💔💔
Is it that hard for you to understand? The house has a capital for rewards so say they've put in a capital of 500k USD and that's their jackpot prize now they can price their tickets or the plays on that particular game to about 2 USD and people will think that it's such a cheap price to play and have a chance to win that much, now if there's 500k people that thinks this way then they're netting a 1m USD profit and in that process, the jackpot might not still even been won by any because the casinos are the ones that's setting it up so the chances of winning is so low. Gambling isn't a fraud but rigging your games so no one wins, is a fraud, gambling is a business at heart, it supplies the demand of the people to take risks.
Yep I agree, casino is a business and business is something that can generate profits from their product or services. If the casino is honest and true, their business isn't fraud given that they made games that can profitable to them and offers a chance of winning money from them. In fact there are other businesses that are also taking advantage of their users, one example of it are social media sites where company sells our datas. It's a bit unethical right? But it is their business model and we as a user had agreed with their terms and condition before using their platform.

There are just people who fails to understand that casinos are businesses, they are also trying to make money but on a way that other people wouldn't do.


Title: Re: Woes of gambling
Post by: slapper on January 12, 2024, 08:54:21 AM
These games seem to benefit the house; casinos aren't established on luck, right? I often think about how games give the impression of control. Players are told their strategy or choice matters, but do they? An atmosphere structured for profit creates a false sense of control. There's another perspective. Human nature, as you said, is important. Risk and reward attract us, right? The excitement of what if, a prospective win. Isn't this our evolutionary instinct, which helped our ancestors survive? Our nature may be manipulated in this complicated psychology-business relationship. Isn't awareness the first step to change


Title: Re: Woes of gambling
Post by: Jody.Drummer on January 12, 2024, 10:57:22 AM
Gambling makes people addicted, those who gamble are now addicted to gambling. And there are many who gamble for fun, common jackpots people participate in because of the temptation that once luck opens, the future will surely be good. I have seen many online acquaintances participate in the jackpot and they always participate in the jackpot. I have usually hit the jackpot twice but never managed to win. That's why now I gamble 4-5 days a week and retire the rest of the days.

If we gamble too often and cannot control ourselves in the gambling we play, it is very likely that we will experience an addiction to gambling and will also have financial problems, because there is very little chance of winning continuously in gambling, so it would be better if we gamble We must be able to control ourselves in gambling, because if we cannot control ourselves then this will be very detrimental to us.
When we have won in gambling and we cannot enjoy the victory, of course this really makes us miserable because of our greed in the gambling we play.

Gambling is one of the activities that should not be taken seriously, you can only play a little there and without putting expectations on winning but unfortunately most gamblers experience differently, which on the contrary, their arrival at gambling involvement is driven by the opportunity to win so I think that's what makes gamblers almost difficult to control their gambling activities until finally they suddenly and unconsciously enter the addiction phase and experience many financial problems.

The percentage of winning is much smaller than the risk of losing, one of the reasons is because this is a profitable business for casinos, or that means the bookie establishes casinos to make a profit, that's why many gamblers experience a dominating defeat if they are too frequent or serious in this activity by making many attempts to pursue victory, basically it won't be that easy because the casino is the one who regulates everything, and maybe you will only be able to win when you are really lucky, nothing more than that. It is for this reason why it is very important to apply self-control as you said, lest we do something that should not be done, or the intention is to increase the risk that we cannot be responsible for such as applying greed and ending up with regret.


Title: Re: Woes of gambling
Post by: ethereumhunter on January 12, 2024, 11:01:47 AM
These games seem to benefit the house; casinos aren't established on luck, right? I often think about how games give the impression of control. Players are told their strategy or choice matters, but do they? An atmosphere structured for profit creates a false sense of control. There's another perspective. Human nature, as you said, is important. Risk and reward attract us, right? The excitement of what if, a prospective win. Isn't this our evolutionary instinct, which helped our ancestors survive? Our nature may be manipulated in this complicated psychology-business relationship. Isn't awareness the first step to change
Casinos are established for the purpose of making a profit from losing gamblers so if gamblers want to make money, they should not seek it from gambling because they will end up losing a lot. Gambling does not deceive the gamblers but because of the gamblers greed which causes them to experience large losses and lose their money. And unfortunately, many gamblers don't realize this and instead try to keep winning. The human nature of wanting to win a lot makes them fall deeper into gambling, causing problems such as bankruptcy, broken homes, and even the worst, gambling addiction. That is why we must have awareness and self-control so that we don't get too deep into gambling and can stop ourselves at the right time so we don't experience these problems.


Title: Re: Woes of gambling
Post by: Slow death on January 12, 2024, 03:09:25 PM
These games seem to benefit the house; casinos aren't established on luck, right? I often think about how games give the impression of control. Players are told their strategy or choice matters, but do they? An atmosphere structured for profit creates a false sense of control. There's another perspective. Human nature, as you said, is important. Risk and reward attract us, right? The excitement of what if, a prospective win. Isn't this our evolutionary instinct, which helped our ancestors survive? Our nature may be manipulated in this complicated psychology-business relationship. Isn't awareness the first step to change

the phrase: "the house always wins" is a phrase that describes the reality of the situation that has happened in games of chance and this has to do with mathematics, more precisely it has to do with probability, casino games are provably fair games, which It means there is no fraud. but in those games, the higher the chosen multiplier, the greater the probability of the person losing a lot and the casino winning a lot, but if the person manages to get it right, then they will win a lot. This means that if someone wants to win a lot of money in casino games, then that person should place higher multipliers and accept that they will lose on most spins. This is part of the game and both sides take risks during each section of the games

casinos take risks when people place high multipliers because if people are lucky enough to get it right, they win a lot of money and obviously if a lot of people are winning a lot of money in the casino, then only casino profits would reduce a lot, on the other side people When they place high multipliers they risk losing a lot consecutively and may not be lucky enough to hit that high multiplier. So, like I said, both sides take a big risk. about whether or not people are in control of the situation, in my opinion they are not. when people play games that depend on luck to get it right

So people just need to click on start and wait for the result, they have no way of influencing the outcome of the game, they have no way of creating any strategy for games that depend on luck. The same thing applies to games of chance that depend on skills, when people play a game like poker, they are playing against the computer or against another person, they are not absolutely sure that they will win using the strategy they have. So you have no control over the situation. In general, I would say that we all gamble counting on luck or hoping that our skills will bring us victories, but we have no guarantee that we will be able to make a profit in gambling


Title: Re: Woes of gambling
Post by: dezoel on January 14, 2024, 03:50:33 PM
Take casino games for example especially jackpot casino games there is no way you can tell me that all of them are structured in such a way that they randomly always make money for the house if you ask me gambling is a fraud that has been used to trick people into believing that their choices matter it does not everyone that gambles is just there to make money for the casino unfortunately there is nothing that can be done about human nature 💔💔💔
It's a known fact that casino games favor the house and that the house always has higher chances of winning than the gambler and casinos or gambling platforms don't hide it, they say very clearly that there is a house edge and that gambling is a test of your luck where you can lose every bet if you are not lucky because the results are random and in that randomness, the house has an edge over the player, and it's the choice of the player if they want to make bets or not.

It's not true that no one wins anything in gambling because those who are lucky manage to win more than they lose. The best example of this is the recent post in the Gambling section where a user managed to win $42m from a $50 spin. I know that the amount he was spinning was high but not everyone managed to win such amounts in gambling.


Title: Re: Woes of gambling
Post by: Accardo on January 14, 2024, 04:06:54 PM
These games seem to benefit the house; casinos aren't established on luck, right? I often think about how games give the impression of control. Players are told their strategy or choice matters, but do they? An atmosphere structured for profit creates a false sense of control. There's another perspective. Human nature, as you said, is important. Risk and reward attract us, right? The excitement of what if, a prospective win. Isn't this our evolutionary instinct, which helped our ancestors survive? Our nature may be manipulated in this complicated psychology-business relationship. Isn't awareness the first step to change
Casinos are established for the purpose of making a profit from losing gamblers so if gamblers want to make money, they should not seek it from gambling because they will end up losing a lot. Gambling does not deceive the gamblers but because of the gamblers greed which causes them to experience large losses and lose their money. And unfortunately, many gamblers don't realize this and instead try to keep winning. The human nature of wanting to win a lot makes them fall deeper into gambling, causing problems such as bankruptcy, broken homes, and even the worst, gambling addiction. That is why we must have awareness and self-control so that we don't get too deep into gambling and can stop ourselves at the right time so we don't experience these problems.

No party is getting deceived in this phycology-business relationship with a signed agreement. The gambler should play victim when the casino isn't complying to the agreement but shouldn't make things look otherwise if the fault comes from his, the player's, end. Casino takes responsibility when need arises as regards to the treatment of gamblers or complaints of different issues like withdrawal or deposit dispute. They don't leave it without solving the trouble. But gamblers allow their troubles to compile without looking into solving few of them. These signs visit every gambler, some solve it while few more wouldn't care about the troubles. The need to know how they feel about themselves since they started gambling, is required in regulating the thoughts of gamblers.


Title: Re: Woes of gambling
Post by: Rufsilf on January 14, 2024, 04:24:55 PM
I believe that a lot of things depend on people's viewpoints and experiences, especially for gamblers like you who may believe that gambling is a scam. Since you just expressed your opinions, I recognize that you have a point of view, and I cannot hold you for expressing it.
 Well gambling with fraud usually involves the use of manipulation or dishonesty for one's own benefit. For instance, occasionally unfair gambling practices, like as rigged games, may be used. Additionally, dubious advertising and false information may be used to deceive customers, especially those who are new to the gambling field.

In my perspective, gambling is a respectable business activity as long as it is carried out in compliance with the law. Similar to how it entails taking chances and giving people the chance to have fun with the possibility of winning money.
It makes sense that there are risks associated with gambling, and that the house usually has the better chances. It was the reckless gamblers' fault that they may develop an addiction to gambling due to their false belief that they would win the big prize even though they consistently lose.


Title: Re: Woes of gambling
Post by: Betwrong on January 15, 2024, 02:42:25 PM
Cool down. Maybe you are just mad after a bad losing streak. :D
Well, they are all rigged wherever you go because it isn't charity. And, if they keep the game clean, they are going to be bankrupt. This is a business brother and it ain't going to be easy to win against them.
Now, all we have is an opportunity, just one chance to get a good multi win then we can get out. There are lots of stories of gamblers who already made some money because they coincidentally hit the jackpot by surprise. All we need is to find a gambling site that will really pay, a reputable one that will give those prizes as how it was said.
When it comes to winning, it will always be difficult, especially with casino games. But you always have options. Most online casinos now offer betting lines for sports, Esports, and other games that you could enjoy. So, pick your own poison but don't expect to make daily income from it. It's gambling, not a job.

No, not at all. I'm wondering, why are you saying this? There are many honest and reputable gambling sites, and Stake, the one you are working for, is one of them. There's no need to be rigged when you are openly stating that you have the advantage in the form of house edge, and that's what they are doing, that's how they make their money. They do keep the game clean, otherwise we shouldn't be playing on their sites and recommend it to others.


Title: Re: Woes of gambling
Post by: Porfirii on January 15, 2024, 02:57:19 PM
Cool down. Maybe you are just mad after a bad losing streak. :D
Well, they are all rigged wherever you go because it isn't charity. And, if they keep the game clean, they are going to be bankrupt. This is a business brother and it ain't going to be easy to win against them.
Now, all we have is an opportunity, just one chance to get a good multi win then we can get out. There are lots of stories of gamblers who already made some money because they coincidentally hit the jackpot by surprise. All we need is to find a gambling site that will really pay, a reputable one that will give those prizes as how it was said.
When it comes to winning, it will always be difficult, especially with casino games. But you always have options. Most online casinos now offer betting lines for sports, Esports, and other games that you could enjoy. So, pick your own poison but don't expect to make daily income from it. It's gambling, not a job.

No, not at all. I'm wondering, why are you saying this? There are many honest and reputable gambling sites, and Stake, the one you are working for, is one of them. There's no need to be rigged when you are openly stating that you have the advantage in the form of house edge, and that's what they are doing, that's how they make their money. They do keep the game clean, otherwise we shouldn't be playing on their sites and recommend it to others.

I agree with the latter. Although it is true what danherbias07 said (if casinos played in the same conditions as gamblers, most of them would eventually go bankrupt), that's indeed also the reason why they must set a hedge in order to survive.

Legit casinos are not rigged: rigged casinos are those who cheat and behave illegally. It's the same with banks: they will always win money in the end, that's how it works, but only those who set illegal rates or write illegal clauses in their contracts are rigged.

Another thing is that you may not like banks, or casinos. In that case, you may not have an alternative to use banking services, but nobody is forced to gamble.


Title: Re: Woes of gambling
Post by: ThemePen on January 15, 2024, 03:02:11 PM
I believe that a lot of things depend on people's viewpoints and experiences, especially for gamblers like you who may believe that gambling is a scam. Since you just expressed your opinions, I recognize that you have a point of view, and I cannot hold you for expressing it.
 Well gambling with fraud usually involves the use of manipulation or dishonesty for one's own benefit. For instance, occasionally unfair gambling practices, like as rigged games, may be used. Additionally, dubious advertising and false information may be used to deceive customers, especially those who are new to the gambling field.

In my perspective, gambling is a respectable business activity as long as it is carried out in compliance with the law. Similar to how it entails taking chances and giving people the chance to have fun with the possibility of winning money.
It makes sense that there are risks associated with gambling, and that the house usually has the better chances. It was the reckless gamblers' fault that they may develop an addiction to gambling due to their false belief that they would win the big prize even though they consistently lose.

I agree with your words about gambling. Some people cheat or trick others in the gambling which can be bad for new gamblers. I think we should condemn and control these practices to keep people safe.
But I have a different opinion about gambling. I think it can be OK and fun as long as it follows the rules. It lets people take chances and maybe win money while having a good time. We need to remember that gambling is risky. It's important for people to gamble responsibly and not get addicted by thinking they will always win.


Title: Re: Woes of gambling
Post by: Odusko on January 15, 2024, 03:17:06 PM
I'm pretty sure most people knew that already but you know gambling is not something that guarantee you getting rich any way. But there's a reason they called it jackpot. You know gambling all about luck or that you might be lucky enough to hit the jackpot that can cover the funds gambling have eaten from you. Come to think of it if everyone is winning how will the casino pay? Through those losses, most casinos normally use to pay for others' wins. As long there's a winner they will always be losers.
The reason why jackpot winnings always come as a surprise to the jackpot winners is that they are already aware that winnings in any form of gambling are based on luck and not on skills or any other form of expertise,  and that is the reason why sometimes those jackpots are warned with the little amount in stake because the casino will have to sell several millions of ticket and refills where the winners will be drawn from, some time 59cent or little below $1 will be used as stake and you see that those winners will win millions of dollars as jackpots.
Some will even win an all-expense paid relocation to other countries such as the American lotteries, the lottery winners are given a huge package that comes way more than the cash price that alot of the jackpot for just one person, so I believe that those who buy those lottery tickets are already aware of the risk of losing outcome not being the lucky number for the jackpot prize.


Title: Re: Woes of gambling
Post by: Betwrong on January 23, 2024, 10:50:31 AM
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I agree with the latter. Although it is true what danherbias07 said (if casinos played in the same conditions as gamblers, most of them would eventually go bankrupt), that's indeed also the reason why they must set a hedge in order to survive.

Legit casinos are not rigged: rigged casinos are those who cheat and behave illegally. It's the same with banks: they will always win money in the end, that's how it works, but only those who set illegal rates or write illegal clauses in their contracts are rigged.

Another thing is that you may not like banks, or casinos. In that case, you may not have an alternative to use banking services, but nobody is forced to gamble.

Why? If conditions were exactly the same, it would be 50/50 and only 50% of the casinos would go bankrupt eventually, not most of them. But I think I know what you mean. The expenses on keeping the casino. Indeed, casinos wouldn't survive if conditions were the same because they would have to pay rents, salaries etc. and would go bankrupt eventually. That's why they need the house edge.

I'm wondering, can there be a casino that survives thanks to advertisers and keeps the house edge at zero?


Title: Re: Woes of gambling
Post by: junder on January 23, 2024, 12:34:27 PM
So people just need to click on start and wait for the result, they have no way of influencing the outcome of the game, they have no way of creating any strategy for games that depend on luck. The same thing applies to games of chance that depend on skills, when people play a game like poker, they are playing against the computer or against another person, they are not absolutely sure that they will win using the strategy they have. So you have no control over the situation. In general, I would say that we all gamble counting on luck or hoping that our skills will bring us victories, but we have no guarantee that we will be able to make a profit in gambling
I agree with you, people who gamble online they just need to click and wait for the results to continue until the end point of winning or losing. And I think that no one can have a way to influence the course of gambling, although there are also those who believe in patterns, tricks and strategies to get victory, but I myself do not believe in it. Because as you said for games that depend on luck alone this does not apply.

That's right, although gambling that requires skills to win in my opinion luck also still plays a role, the skills possessed can increase the chances of winning, but that does not mean that you can completely get a win or really win. The profit in gambling cannot be predicted accurately, this indicates that luck has a big role.


Title: Re: Woes of gambling
Post by: yudi09 on January 23, 2024, 12:48:02 PM
Take casino games for example especially jackpot casino games there is no way you can tell me that all of them are structured in such a way that they randomly always make money for the house if you ask me gambling is a fraud that has been used to trick people into believing that their choices matter it does not everyone that gambles is just there to make money for the casino unfortunately there is nothing that can be done about human nature 💔💔💔
Human nature can be arranged to become better, from greedy to simpler, from greedy to wiser.
Humans who continue to pursue their desires will never be satisfied even in all types of activities they undertake, including gambling games.
Gambling is not a means to get rich, people should know this, but they don't care because their minds continue to show big money not as a place to test their luck and as a place to have fun.

Responsible gamblers who understand this, if you are not a responsible gambler, then you will never consider gambling as a place to entertain yourself.


Title: Re: Woes of gambling
Post by: ethereumhunter on January 23, 2024, 01:28:14 PM
No party is getting deceived in this phycology-business relationship with a signed agreement. The gambler should play victim when the casino isn't complying to the agreement but shouldn't make things look otherwise if the fault comes from his, the player's, end. Casino takes responsibility when need arises as regards to the treatment of gamblers or complaints of different issues like withdrawal or deposit dispute. They don't leave it without solving the trouble. But gamblers allow their troubles to compile without looking into solving few of them. These signs visit every gambler, some solve it while few more wouldn't care about the troubles. The need to know how they feel about themselves since they started gambling, is required in regulating the thoughts of gamblers.
Gamblers should check the casino before registering if they do not want to become victims of unfair circumstances. However, gamblers who do not pay attention to this will become victims of casino scams and will not be able to solve their problems because the casino is a scam casino. And if that happens, these gamblers will feel the misery of gambling without being able to hope to solve the problem. That is why gamblers should not use gambling beyond their limits and must be able to regulate their mindset so they can control themselves when gambling. If they succeed, they can reduce their money losses and only try to enjoy gambling as entertainment.


Title: Re: Woes of gambling
Post by: Jawhead999 on January 23, 2024, 03:21:30 PM
Gamblers should check the casino before registering if they do not want to become victims of unfair circumstances.
They deserved to receive that, how can someone blindly use a service without looking to the reputation and it's disadvantages. Most people should be familiar with the technology since the pandemic forces people to use it, there's no excuse to not check the site's credibility.

That's right, although gambling that requires skills to win in my opinion luck also still plays a role, the skills possessed can increase the chances of winning, but that does not mean that you can completely get a win or really win. The profit in gambling cannot be predicted accurately, this indicates that luck has a big role.
There was a thread Am I being restricted? (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5479616.msg63405966#msg63405966) where the @OP claimed he get restricted, but he's consistently making money by playing Blackjack. Most people will lose, but few of them might able to success.


Title: Re: Woes of gambling
Post by: pawel7777 on January 23, 2024, 11:20:07 PM
There was a thread Am I being restricted? (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5479616.msg63405966#msg63405966) where the @OP claimed he get restricted, but he's consistently making money by playing Blackjack. Most people will lose, but few of them might able to success.

BlackJack usually has the lowest house edge of all the classic casino games, so people playing it, especially when they know what they're doing, have a higher chance of winning streaks than those who prefer other games. But make no mistake, the casino still has the advantage over the player.
The OP of the thread you linked himself admitted that it was mostly due to luck.


Title: Re: Woes of gambling
Post by: Porfirii on January 24, 2024, 05:52:21 AM
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I agree with the latter. Although it is true what danherbias07 said (if casinos played in the same conditions as gamblers, most of them would eventually go bankrupt), that's indeed also the reason why they must set a hedge in order to survive.

Legit casinos are not rigged: rigged casinos are those who cheat and behave illegally. It's the same with banks: they will always win money in the end, that's how it works, but only those who set illegal rates or write illegal clauses in their contracts are rigged.

Another thing is that you may not like banks, or casinos. In that case, you may not have an alternative to use banking services, but nobody is forced to gamble.

Why? If conditions were exactly the same, it would be 50/50 and only 50% of the casinos would go bankrupt eventually, not most of them. But I think I know what you mean. The expenses on keeping the casino. Indeed, casinos wouldn't survive if conditions were the same because they would have to pay rents, salaries etc. and would go bankrupt eventually. That's why they need the house edge.

I'm wondering, can there be a casino that survives thanks to advertisers and keeps the house edge at zero?

I don't think so. As you well deduced, I was thinking about expenses when I said that, but not only: all business is meant to make money. A casino where income and expenses were the same wouldn't be profitable, and I don't think that would make any sense, except for a non-profit project, very atypical in the gambling industry.

That's why 50/50 wouldn't work for most casinos.


Title: Re: Woes of gambling
Post by: Hirose UK on January 24, 2024, 06:30:30 AM
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Gamblers should check the casino before registering if they do not want to become victims of unfair circumstances. However, gamblers who do not pay attention to this will become victims of casino scams and will not be able to solve their problems because the casino is a scam casino. And if that happens, these gamblers will feel the misery of gambling without being able to hope to solve the problem. That is why gamblers should not use gambling beyond their limits and must be able to regulate their mindset so they can control themselves when gambling. If they succeed, they can reduce their money losses and only try to enjoy gambling as entertainment.
If say fair is not fair then gambling is full of injustice towards gamblers, how could it not be because the chance of gambler losing is much greater than winning and the ones who gain the most from gambling are only those in the casino business or gambling site.
But all of these are risks that definitely exist and all of that is how gambling works so as gamblers we must understand it and be able to accept it, whatever the outcome of gambling, whether winning or losing, we must be able to accept it with wise and responsible attitude.
In gambling, justice cannot be completely achieved by gamblers and casinos provide justice to gamblers only in the form of transparency and service that truly equalizes one gambler with another, plus there is no manipulation that occurs.
This is justice that the casino can provide to all gamblers who are customers there and you are right that we must be able to choose the right casino or gambling site to get that justice.
Even though we know that in gambling we are the only gamblers who experience the biggest financial losses, but we can think of it as payment for having fun and satisfying ourselves with what we find enjoyable.


Title: Re: Woes of gambling
Post by: wxa7115 on January 24, 2024, 06:56:44 AM
Take casino games for example especially jackpot casino games there is no way you can tell me that all of them are structured in such a way that they randomly always make money for the house if you ask me gambling is a fraud that has been used to trick people into believing that their choices matter it does not everyone that gambles is just there to make money for the casino unfortunately there is nothing that can be done about human nature 💔💔💔
How can gambling be a fraud when the odds of each game are explicitly stated and you can either calculate the probabilities of winning yourself or look on the internet for them?

Casinos are very open about what they are doing, they are offering entertainment for a reasonable fee, is it not what any industry related to entertainment is doing? Should we forbid people from all of those activities simply because they do not obtain a tangible benefit? Which by the way, getting some fun, a good laugh and simply having a good time are not only pleasant experiences, they also offer beneficial effects towards your health.


Title: Re: Woes of gambling
Post by: ethereumhunter on January 24, 2024, 08:06:41 AM
They deserved to receive that, how can someone blindly use a service without looking to the reputation and it's disadvantages. Most people should be familiar with the technology since the pandemic forces people to use it, there's no excuse to not check the site's credibility.
And because of the pandemic, people are familiar with online casinos so they try to learn about them before they use them. However, not all people new to online casinos learn the rules or try to get to know the casino's services. They unconsciously use the casino to gamble without paying attention to what they must do before using it. Well, it is their fault and they will suffer the consequences by experiencing many problems after they gamble.

If say fair is not fair then gambling is full of injustice towards gamblers, how could it not be because the chance of gambler losing is much greater than winning and the ones who gain the most from gambling are only those in the casino business or gambling site.
But all of these are risks that definitely exist and all of that is how gambling works so as gamblers we must understand it and be able to accept it, whatever the outcome of gambling, whether winning or losing, we must be able to accept it with wise and responsible attitude.
In gambling, justice cannot be completely achieved by gamblers and casinos provide justice to gamblers only in the form of transparency and service that truly equalizes one gambler with another, plus there is no manipulation that occurs.
This is justice that the casino can provide to all gamblers who are customers there and you are right that we must be able to choose the right casino or gambling site to get that justice.
Even though we know that in gambling we are the only gamblers who experience the biggest financial losses, but we can think of it as payment for having fun and satisfying ourselves with what we find enjoyable.
If gamblers are aware of the risks of gambling, which can make them lose a lot of money, they will not want to use a lot of money to gamble. They will only gamble moderately and leave the casino once they have enough. Moreover, they don't have many chances to win because gambling does not guarantee that someone can win as often as they want. This is what gamblers must be aware of because there is no guarantee of winning. They must be able to limit themselves from excessive gambling. We also don't know whether the casino is fair or unfair, but as long as we gamble at a casino with a good reputation, they will not cheat their members. A casino with a good reputation will always maintain its reputation by providing services and will not cheat its members because this will impact the reputation it has built. Therefore, gamblers should be able to control themselves when gambling so that they do not experience large losses so that they only gamble for fun and will not experience bad problems.


Title: Re: Woes of gambling
Post by: irhact on January 24, 2024, 08:38:13 AM
If we gamble too often and cannot control ourselves in the gambling we play, it is very likely that we will experience an addiction to gambling and will also have financial problems, because there is very little chance of winning continuously in gambling, so it would be better if we gamble We must be able to control ourselves in gambling, because if we cannot control ourselves then this will be very detrimental to us.
When we have won in gambling and we cannot enjoy the victory, of course this really makes us miserable because of our greed in the gambling we play.

Gambling is an entertainment activity therefore if you aren't having fun or enjoying yourself when gambling then you should stop gambling as gambling isn't for you. How won't you enjoy your games when you win, after suffering for so long and you finally win, you have to celebrate your winning by taking yourself out or your family and friends. Celebrate so you can have the feeling and want more of that type of feeling therefore you'll be interested in winning more games.

When gambling, you won't win every time therefore you should celebrate when you win. Gambling is addictive but if you have self discipline you can control yourself and not get addicted to gambling. The house has the edge as you can't win them continuously but you can plan how to gamble so you don't waste all your money playing games that you won't win but be smart about how you gamble to avoid losses.


Title: Re: Woes of gambling
Post by: junder on January 24, 2024, 02:20:17 PM
That's right, although gambling that requires skills to win in my opinion luck also still plays a role, the skills possessed can increase the chances of winning, but that does not mean that you can completely get a win or really win. The profit in gambling cannot be predicted accurately, this indicates that luck has a big role.
There was a thread Am I being restricted? (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5479616.msg63405966#msg63405966) where the @OP claimed he get restricted, but he's consistently making money by playing Blackjack. Most people will lose, but few of them might able to success.

That's true, but I think the casino still has the advantage in winning in all gambling. Also,  as you said only a few people are successful this is true,  because it is impossible for anyone to be able to make profits consistently where in every gambling they will win and make a profit,  I don't think that's possible The thing you need to pay attention to is that gambling has a host  and the host certainly has an advantage.

and I read in that tread you mentioned  the OP also said "I don't do any tricks because card counting is impossible to succeed at the evolution game table. It's pure luck and a bit of strategy."
This indicates that some gambling that requires skill also involves luck not only depending on the skills possessed because in my opinion,  victory in gambling will only be determined by luck in our favor if it is lucky to win if it is unlucky then it does not win.


Title: Re: Woes of gambling
Post by: Betwrong on January 30, 2024, 10:08:13 AM
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I'm wondering, can there be a casino that survives thanks to advertisers and keeps the house edge at zero?

I don't think so. As you well deduced, I was thinking about expenses when I said that, but not only: all business is meant to make money. A casino where income and expenses were the same wouldn't be profitable, and I don't think that would make any sense, except for a non-profit project, very atypical in the gambling industry.

That's why 50/50 wouldn't work for most casinos.

But it could work for those making money on advertisement, no? If a big company like Coca-Cola was paying a million USD per year to a popular gambling site, I think they could survive without the house edge. They could arrange the creation of 100% RTP slots with known slot providers, the same slots only with higher RTP, and imagine how popular that site could be. I'm not saying that all people could make money there, in fact, only slightly more than usually, but 100% RTP would attract many gamblers, I'm sure.


Title: Re: Woes of gambling
Post by: swogerino on January 30, 2024, 10:14:34 AM
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I'm wondering, can there be a casino that survives thanks to advertisers and keeps the house edge at zero?

I don't think so. As you well deduced, I was thinking about expenses when I said that, but not only: all business is meant to make money. A casino where income and expenses were the same wouldn't be profitable, and I don't think that would make any sense, except for a non-profit project, very atypical in the gambling industry.

That's why 50/50 wouldn't work for most casinos.

But it could work for those making money on advertisement, no? If a big company like Coca-Cola was paying a million USD per year to a popular gambling site, I think they could survive without the house edge. They could arrange the creation of 100% RTP slots with known slot providers, the same slots only with higher RTP, and imagine how popular that site could be. I'm not saying that all people could make money there, in fact, only slightly more than usually, but 100% RTP would attract many gamblers, I'm sure.

I don't think any casino would accept such offer as they cannot offer an 100% RTP which over the long run they will be even and I am sure they make more money than 1 million dollar in a year.That is why the house edge is in place to offer like 4-5% to the casino so in a year overall this 4-5% is a sure thing that is more than 1 million dollars and that is why casinos stick to this business plan,it makes money to them and they do not care about such sponsorships.


Title: Re: Woes of gambling
Post by: rodskee on January 30, 2024, 10:27:07 AM
Take casino games for example especially jackpot casino games there is no way you can tell me that all of them are structured in such a way that they randomly always make money for the house if you ask me gambling is a fraud that has been used to trick people into believing that their choices matter it does not everyone that gambles is just there to make money for the casino unfortunately there is nothing that can be done about human nature 💔💔💔
Scam is happening when people do not know what and why their money being taken but for gamblers
that understand the ins and out? that they knew where their money ends? that is unfair to call them scammed.

gambling is indeed place to lose money but that is with consent of those who plays here and not
being taken from them blindly.


Title: Re: Woes of gambling
Post by: Outhue on January 30, 2024, 12:22:09 PM
Take casino games for example especially jackpot casino games there is no way you can tell me that all of them are structured in such a way that they randomly always make money for the house if you ask me gambling is a fraud that has been used to trick people into believing that their choices matter it does not everyone that gambles is just there to make money for the casino unfortunately there is nothing that can be done about human nature 💔💔💔
Who says money is easy to get in the first place? Isn't people like you that confused yourselves that money can be made this way? If we can just stop deceiving ourselves we will see things more clearer, gambling isn't like a bed of roses for the poor or for those who want to change their life into something better, it's never meant to be easy, we are created to struggle for everything we want and desire.

I can never be deceived that money is easy to come by, I have turned down many investment opportunity because they just don't make any sense to me, it's either their ROI is too high or the way they generate income is hideous and untrue, whatever the case may be, is something sounds too good to the ear it's probably a big fat lie.

That's why gambling as a fun part of your life is the best, don't dream of making life changing money when gambling, don't! You won't see it happen no matter how much you try, such luck come to those that have a different mind about gambling, and even if it never happens they are the safest, because they don't expect anything big from gambling.


Title: Re: Woes of gambling
Post by: Slow death on January 30, 2024, 05:55:23 PM
Most people before getting involved in gambling do not take a few days to do research on what exactly gambling is and what the purpose of gambling is, after doing a lot of research for many days then people need to look in the mirror and ask yourself what you are looking for when you get involved in gambling, then you will be able to understand what you want when you get involved in gambling and you will not be playing irrationally and thinking that gambling will give you profits. If we all did this, then we would see few cases of people talking about gambling profits. but unfortunately the reality is different, when I started with sports betting

I didn't do any research, I didn't know how to bet, I didn't know how to analyze the games. So I just guessed and continued dreaming of profits. I was done making my plans so I could make daily profits. Today, when I remember that past more than 4 years ago, I laugh at myself. My luck is that I didn't lose money 4 years ago. But my way of thinking 4 years ago was definitely not good, today I can see that. but even today I lose in betting, because although I can analyze the games, this is still no guarantee of success, which is why I have had more losses than wins. If someone asked me why I keep playing if I'm always losing?

I would immediately respond with the following sentence: I continue playing because I look at gambling just as fun, that's why when I deposit money in the casino, I get it in my head that it's lost money and I won't miss it, So there's no reason for me to regret it when I lose. The chances of me losing are greater than the chances of me winning. If I win, then I look at that profit as money that will increase my playing days, I don't see it as a big profit to withdraw


Title: Re: Woes of gambling
Post by: Dewi Aries on January 30, 2024, 07:54:21 PM
I'm not sure the point you are trying to make because of the contradiction at the middle part of your post but I believe gambling is not a guarantee for riches and the house always has better winning chances than the player. You also need to understand that you have to gamble with the money you can afford to lose whether in online casino or offline and that is how you can be satisfied in your games whether lose or profit.

I think most people already know about the general reason why the population of gamblers is increasing and that is because of the winning opportunities provided by casinos and this is what makes gambling look very attractive, most gamblers come to win but are not prepared to lose, This is a typical loser because gambling is always about two possibilities, namely winning or losing and therefore it is always advisable for anyone, especially those who are new to and involved in gambling to have a proper understanding of what gambling really is, the fear is that they carry the assumption that gambling is a "place to earn", this is dangerous because there is no certainty about the final result can endanger themselves.

After all, the bookie casino built the casino/gambling to benefit them because it is a business that stands behind the "odds" that make people feel very attracted to try to make the odds of winning a reality, the house holds all the control because they are the ones who organize everything and as you said that the real profit here is the bookie himself and not the gamblers. As I said above that this is a business that stands behind the "odds", therefore having a good understanding and approach is always recommended for safety such as only putting small amounts as you suggested wherever you play.


Title: Re: Woes of gambling
Post by: arimamib on January 31, 2024, 06:44:08 AM
I'm not sure the point you are trying to make because of the contradiction at the middle part of your post but I believe gambling is not a guarantee for riches and the house always has better winning chances than the player. You also need to understand that you have to gamble with the money you can afford to lose whether in online casino or offline and that is how you can be satisfied in your games whether lose or profit.
I think most people already know about the general reason why the population of gamblers is increasing and that is because of the winning opportunities provided by casinos and this is what makes gambling look very attractive, most gamblers come to win but are not prepared to lose, This is a typical loser because gambling is always about two possibilities, namely winning or losing and therefore it is always advisable for anyone, especially those who are new to and involved in gambling to have a proper understanding of what gambling really is, the fear is that they carry the assumption that gambling is a "place to earn", this is dangerous because there is no certainty about the final result can endanger themselves.

After all, the bookie casino built the casino/gambling to benefit them because it is a business that stands behind the "odds" that make people feel very attracted to try to make the odds of winning a reality, the house holds all the control because they are the ones who organize everything and as you said that the real profit here is the bookie himself and not the gamblers. As I said above that this is a business that stands behind the "odds", therefore having a good understanding and approach is always recommended for safety such as only putting small amounts as you suggested wherever you play.
The allure of potential winnings indeed makes gambling appealing to many people. The assumption that gambling is a guaranteed quick way to earn money is contradictory to reality, because gambling reflects the unpredictable and often uncontrollable outcomes. The business model of casinos is designed to favor the house, ensuring their profitability in the long run. Encouraging responsible gambling practices, such as limiting the amounts wagered, aligns with a cautious approach to mitigate potential financial risks for participants.

This is the importance of informed decision-making and responsible behavior in the realm of gambling. Gamblers need to acknowledge the business-oriented nature of casinos and the need for gamblers to approach such activities with a clear understanding of the associated uncertainties and risks. The business-oriented nature of casinos is significant. Acknowledging the inherent uncertainties and risks associated with gambling is a key step towards fostering responsible behavior among gamblers.


Title: Re: Woes of gambling
Post by: Volimack on January 31, 2024, 02:34:58 PM
As far as I am concerned, it is not right to expect anything big from gambling the result is very bad. Gambling must be for fun sometimes I played it sometimes I stopped it if I stick to it, it will not take time to become a loss instead of a profit. Gambling is not for everyone making money here is difficult. Those who win are lucky but must know how to protect the odds. Change your perspective to reduce risk.


Title: Re: Woes of gambling
Post by: harapan on January 31, 2024, 02:48:48 PM
Take casino games for example especially jackpot casino games there is no way you can tell me that all of them are structured in such a way that they randomly always make money for the house if you ask me gambling is a fraud that has been used to trick people into believing that their choices matter it does not everyone that gambles is just there to make money for the casino unfortunately there is nothing that can be done about human nature 💔💔💔

Your thread is not going straight to the point,it's only beating around the Bush,your topic says "Woes of Gambling" and your bringing up such thread out of it saying Gambling is a fraud and all it that.
What I think is that you need to read up about gambling rules and all about it so you know how to drive into conclusion.
Gambling is no fraud but rather a game of fun and excitements.Yes it involves the use of money to stake a game that will guarantee you chances of winning and it's no big deal because the human nature love what gives them excitement so they can make every move to achieve anything.



Title: Re: Woes of gambling
Post by: Dewi Aries on January 31, 2024, 03:53:38 PM
I'm not sure the point you are trying to make because of the contradiction at the middle part of your post but I believe gambling is not a guarantee for riches and the house always has better winning chances than the player. You also need to understand that you have to gamble with the money you can afford to lose whether in online casino or offline and that is how you can be satisfied in your games whether lose or profit.
I think most people already know about the general reason why the population of gamblers is increasing and that is because of the winning opportunities provided by casinos and this is what makes gambling look very attractive, most gamblers come to win but are not prepared to lose, This is a typical loser because gambling is always about two possibilities, namely winning or losing and therefore it is always advisable for anyone, especially those who are new to and involved in gambling to have a proper understanding of what gambling really is, the fear is that they carry the assumption that gambling is a "place to earn", this is dangerous because there is no certainty about the final result can endanger themselves.

After all, the bookie casino built the casino/gambling to benefit them because it is a business that stands behind the "odds" that make people feel very attracted to try to make the odds of winning a reality, the house holds all the control because they are the ones who organize everything and as you said that the real profit here is the bookie himself and not the gamblers. As I said above that this is a business that stands behind the "odds", therefore having a good understanding and approach is always recommended for safety such as only putting small amounts as you suggested wherever you play.
The allure of potential winnings indeed makes gambling appealing to many people. The assumption that gambling is a guaranteed quick way to earn money is contradictory to reality, because gambling reflects the unpredictable and often uncontrollable outcomes. The business model of casinos is designed to favor the house, ensuring their profitability in the long run. Encouraging responsible gambling practices, such as limiting the amounts wagered, aligns with a cautious approach to mitigate potential financial risks for participants.

This is the importance of informed decision-making and responsible behavior in the realm of gambling. Gamblers need to acknowledge the business-oriented nature of casinos and the need for gamblers to approach such activities with a clear understanding of the associated uncertainties and risks. The business-oriented nature of casinos is significant. Acknowledging the inherent uncertainties and risks associated with gambling is a key step towards fostering responsible behavior among gamblers.

Most of them can't lie to themselves that it's the "possibility of winning" that makes them come and engage in gambling, I don't care even if they say that they come for fun because most of the time it's just an excuse to hide behind the real facts about what their goals are, and also on the other hand we can see in terms of the impact they have, if after engaging in gambling they experience problems with their finances such as their finances become more difficult then it is clear that it seems like they came to gambling with the wrong goal, I can already confirm that the bad impact in gambling will only happen to those who have a wrong understanding such as gambling to get a win because with a goal like that then obviously they will usually act excessively because there is something they are aiming for which is winning.

You also said and I agree to that that the idea of gambling to make money is so contrary to the actual reality that you will actually suffer a lot of problems if you gamble based on such a goal because after all the overall profit is only for the casino itself. On the other hand yes as I said gambling is a business that will only benefit the casino, and I would ask if there are any gamblers who have managed to make a fortune from their gambling? no, and I would only believe they could become rich people if they basically own the casino itself, I think all these facts are already a strong reason why caution and vigilance are very important to apply to gambling activities.


Title: Re: Woes of gambling
Post by: Wakate on January 31, 2024, 06:31:01 PM
I'm pretty sure most people knew that already but you know gambling is not something that guarantee you getting rich any way. But there's a reason they called it jackpot. You know gambling all about luck or that you might be lucky enough to hit the jackpot that can cover the funds gambling have eaten from you. Come to think of it if everyone is winning how will the casino pay. Through those losses most casino normally use to pay for others wins. Aslong there's winner they will always be losers.
Is this one of your gambling woes? Maybe you are right, maybe you are wrong!
Gambling is a way we can struggle to make money for ourselves. We don't have to necessarily make money for the casino we are using which all depends on the kind of game we are playing and how sharp is our predictions. Casinos games can be configured in a way to make money for the house which is not bad at all, but not everyone is going to win.
 There are people that always lose which is a case like giving money to the casino to pay other players. Sometimes, it is likely for us to fa into this category but not always. Once we understand how gambling works, I think we would know that nit everyone is going to be winner.
There are times we lose and time we win. Everyone falls to anyone of the category anytime we bet.


Title: Re: Woes of gambling
Post by: Betwrong on February 06, 2024, 08:59:17 AM
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I don't think any casino would accept such offer as they cannot offer an 100% RTP which over the long run they will be even and I am sure they make more money than 1 million dollar in a year.That is why the house edge is in place to offer like 4-5% to the casino so in a year overall this 4-5% is a sure thing that is more than 1 million dollars and that is why casinos stick to this business plan,it makes money to them and they do not care about such sponsorships.

Well, some of them are making more than $1 million per year, and others are making less. To make $1 million you have to have the turnover of about $20 million per year, do you think it's easy? But those are just numbers. If you know a casino with $200 turnover, it means the house edge gives them $40 million. And over the last years Coca-Cola has spent an average of four billion dollars a year on advertising worldwide. Against this background  $40 million looks like nothing.


Title: Re: Woes of gambling
Post by: Synchronice on February 06, 2024, 09:32:05 AM
Take casino games for example especially jackpot casino games there is no way you can tell me that all of them are structured in such a way that they randomly always make money for the house if you ask me gambling is a fraud that has been used to trick people into believing that their choices matter it does not everyone that gambles is just there to make money for the casino unfortunately there is nothing that can be done about human nature 💔💔💔
I just don't understand when casinos have the house edge and RTP set on their games, why shouldn't they play fair games. They don't make money randomly from the house, they make money long-term from the house, i.e. mathematically casinos are guaranteed to profit long-term because of the house edge while short term, it's not predictable whether you win or casino wins, that means that one day you might hit the jackpot and win lots of money but if you continue gambling and don't stop there, then you will eventually lose. So, play for fun and if you can't get, do some other activities.


Title: Re: Woes of gambling
Post by: carlisle1 on February 06, 2024, 12:14:55 PM
Take casino games for example especially jackpot casino games there is no way you can tell me that all of them are structured in such a way that they randomly always make money for the house if you ask me gambling is a fraud that has been used to trick people into believing that their choices matter it does not everyone that gambles is just there to make money for the casino unfortunately there is nothing that can be done about human nature 💔💔💔
I just don't understand when casinos have the house edge and RTP set on their games, why shouldn't they play fair games. They don't make money randomly from the house, they make money long-term from the house, i.e. mathematically casinos are guaranteed to profit long-term because of the house edge while short term, it's not predictable whether you win or casino wins, that means that one day you might hit the jackpot and win lots of money but if you continue gambling and don't stop there, then you will eventually lose. So, play for fun and if you can't get, do some other activities.

That's how casino works,

they earn from each gambler who play and use their services, though you are right that there's time that you may win
huge but if you continue playing back casino will still wins in the long run.

Casino is a business and those who are facilitating knows how they find ways to keep those earnings. Same with what you said,
play for fun and not to expect that much.


Title: Re: Woes of gambling
Post by: Mahanton on February 06, 2024, 12:39:55 PM
Take casino games for example especially jackpot casino games there is no way you can tell me that all of them are structured in such a way that they randomly always make money for the house if you ask me gambling is a fraud that has been used to trick people into believing that their choices matter it does not everyone that gambles is just there to make money for the casino unfortunately there is nothing that can be done about human nature 💔💔💔
I just don't understand when casinos have the house edge and RTP set on their games, why shouldn't they play fair games. They don't make money randomly from the house, they make money long-term from the house, i.e. mathematically casinos are guaranteed to profit long-term because of the house edge while short term, it's not predictable whether you win or casino wins, that means that one day you might hit the jackpot and win lots of money but if you continue gambling and don't stop there, then you will eventually lose. So, play for fun and if you can't get, do some other activities.

That's how casino works,

they earn from each gambler who play and use their services, though you are right that there's time that you may win
huge but if you continue playing back casino will still wins in the long run.

Casino is a business and those who are facilitating knows how they find ways to keep those earnings. Same with what you said,
play for fun and not to expect that much.
You wont really be putting up yourself on such problem if you are really just that simply responsible and mindful on what you are doing.People do usually mess up their lives on the time that they would really be having those kind of impulsive approach and those delusional kind of hopes and really that believing that they could really be able to take advantage towards gambling. Yes, its true that we might be lucky for sometime on which we might be able to win up some amounts but on the time that we do decide on playing even more or would really be continuing then this is where you would really be putting up yourself on such big trouble.

Gambling business wont really be that become a profitable business if not into those gamblers who are impulsive on which it does simply shows that gamblers would really be always at their disadvantage on which it would
really be just that right that they would really be that doing their very best on hooking up players since they do know that the do always have the advantage even
if we do speak about longer durations or runs. So it would really be just that matter on a certain individuals on how they would really be able to deal up with things.


Title: Re: Woes of gambling
Post by: Baki202 on February 06, 2024, 12:45:11 PM
As far as I am concerned, it is not right to expect anything big from gambling the result is very bad. Gambling must be for fun sometimes I played it sometimes I stopped it if I stick to it, it will not take time to become a loss instead of a profit. Gambling is not for everyone making money here is difficult. Those who win are lucky but must know how to protect the odds. Change your perspective to reduce risk.
your expectations matter what you will get from gambling when I gamble I don't gamble with small expectations and that has always helped me because I enjoy AFCON and the premier league and La Liga leagues like that it makes gambling easy sometimes when you are betting on some clubs you already know what do clubs can do and with some information, it will make everything easy. I have not reasoned for once if a loss has stopped me from gamble and when I lose that is even the exact time that I will rearrange my game and we continue and it just makes everything to easy the whole thing is just about how you understand bitcoin. when it comes to money there is no easy way to make it you have to take that risk and that is what we are taking now.


Title: Re: Woes of gambling
Post by: Gormicsta on April 01, 2024, 09:27:14 AM
Take casino games for example especially jackpot casino games there is no way you can tell me that all of them are structured in such a way that they randomly always make money for the house if you ask me gambling is a fraud that has been used to trick people into believing that their choices matter it does not everyone that gambles is just there to make money for the casino unfortunately there is nothing that can be done about human nature 💔💔💔

Some say that even if you understand the odds, you are still at a disadvantage while playing casino games. That's because the house always has an advantage, regardless of the game you're playing. They may not win every time, but the odds are always in their favour. This is referred to as the "house edge." Some argue that this renders gambling fundamentally unfair. Another factor to examine is the mindset of gambling. It has been demonstrated that people typically understate their risks of losing while overestimating their possibilities of winning. This is known as the "gambler's fallacy." When you're hooked up in the anticipation of gambling, it might be simple to fall victim to this illusion and wind up losing even more money.


Title: Re: Woes of gambling
Post by: Jody.Drummer on April 01, 2024, 11:10:09 AM
Some say that even if you understand the odds, you are still at a disadvantage while playing casino games. That's because the house always has an advantage, regardless of the game you're playing. They may not win every time, but the odds are always in their favour. This is referred to as the "house edge." Some argue that this renders gambling fundamentally unfair. Another factor to examine is the mindset of gambling. It has been demonstrated that people typically understate their risks of losing while overestimating their possibilities of winning. This is known as the "gambler's fallacy." When you're hooked up in the anticipation of gambling, it might be simple to fall victim to this illusion and wind up losing even more money.

losses are the same as losses that are certain in casino gambling, because the host's goal is to make a profit from the large number of residents. So those who act as hosts have certainly set the chance of losing for the gamblers to be a large percentage, and the chance of winning is a small percentage, and that cannot be denied, let alone changed. this provision is permanent. In my opinion, this is not a matter of whether it is fair or not, but it is about each individual's understanding, because gambling is a game that was created for fun, not to seek definite profit.

It's a wrong mindset if they think of gambling as something that can make money for sure, because with a mindset like that, they most likely won't be able to accept it when the gambling they do ends up losing, and when that happens, maybe what they will do is chasing his losses or wanting to recover his losses by gambling again, he can even be more aggressive with the gambling he does again, such as by depositing more money for gambling and using bets that are large and worth it, but what you say is true, however they gamble, the end is certain. what happens is losing more money with that big risky action.


Title: Re: Woes of gambling
Post by: betswift on April 01, 2024, 06:35:04 PM
How your post sounds to me:
- You do not believe in Random Number Generators
- You do not think results are fair and that outcomes can be verified via provably fair system
- You do not believe the casino even if they say their house edge is 5% right in front of your face

Do yourself a favor - don't gamble.

that is exactly what i would like to ask as well.

Basically, we all know how casinos work, but despite this, there is a positive side that focuses on enjoyment, community and responsibility. If you perceive your losses as an opportunity for other players to make money, everything becomes much easier ;D
It's all about balance, education and support.


Title: Re: Woes of gambling
Post by: bangjoe on April 01, 2024, 06:42:29 PM
Gambling will be considered a scam by those who are looking for money in casinos, the bodh thing on you OP why you consider that gambling is a scam is because you want money from gambling, while so far casinos do reward winners instead of rewarding winnings but you need to respond that gambling is not a profession or a place to make money, it is just a place of games, matches designed to provide entertainment to people, but unfortunately many people think that gambling is a place where you can multiply money. I think you need to understand that you don't make money from gambling unless you are a casino owner, you need money for your casino to operate.