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Hey, Playgram.io! Welcome to the forum.
It seems that your images are not showing up due to some reason.
https://www.talkimg.com/images/2024/05/10/12Jea.jpeg

I would recommend you to use talkimg.com for image posting in the forum. The platform was created by one of our forum member for posting images.

Coming back to your telegram casino, it seems that you might be the second casino that works well on the telegram platform. Do you have any plans to promote your casino in the forum?

EDIT: The images are showing up sometimes and not showing up sometimes.

Thanks! Quite a fresh start when ImgBB starts to play games :D Lets hope TalkImg is more reliable :)

We've not yet made any decisions about signature campaigns, but I'm sure we'll run other promos on the side at least in the forum.

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I was about to suggest though that you used used talkimg. Nevertheless, it's great to see another Telegram based casinos being introduce, and if I'm not mistaken, you could be the second platform recently that introduces this kind of set-up so goodluck. And perhaps it will be better if you run a signature campaign here in this community to promote your site? One advantage of it is that obviously, your new platform needs marketing in this community. Gambling community I would say is one of the biggest so you need this kind of exposure. Unlike the other platform, which has a web base site, your casino is purely Telegram right?

Am I the only one finding it hard to play demo games? I tried to check how Hades vs Zeus would look like on a telegram casino but all I could find was the real game play no option for demo. It would be nice to add option for demo so that those new to your site can use it to test it out and know how it works.

I haven’t checked other sections yet - but before I proceed further I would like to get a confirmation from others if they have the demo option or not.

It's good to see that you promptly accepted my suggestion and implemented it. I would suggest you add a screenshot of your platform in your topic to make it more convincing to everyone here as members don't like casinos that are based on Telegram due to the bad reputation that it has in the crypto sphere.

Create your games list that has your stuff rather than listing others then start a signature campaign for at least four weeks would be ideal to evaluate whether you are getting decent traffic from the forum.

Could these be unrealistic promises? Rewards in real money with no wagering requirements sound too good to be true. Casinos typically have wagering requirements to prevent bonus abuse.

And how we can verify that this online casino is licensed on the Telegram platform?

       -  Casino on Telegram? It is still quite innovative in my opinion. And besides that, it seems that I read and watched something saying that it is possible to transfer stablecoin on Telegram, so maybe there are casinos like this. It seems to have been seen on my TON platform.

Well, let me try to explore here in the playgram you are talking about OP to see how it differs from the casual casino gambling platforms that I am used to here in the crypto space.

yeah, casinos typically put wagering requirements on their bonuses to prevent abuse.

you can check their website playgram.io, if you check the very bottom of the webpage you'll see a Curacao license icon and if you click it it will lead you to a page showing that their website is licensed and verified.

I need clarification on this, but I assume this is only for a deposit that has no bonus. it would be nice if you could explain it more in detail so people won't misinterpret what it means.

Welcome to the forum, the casino looks solid, probably this is the first time I see a good UI/UX telegram casino. Usually telegram based casinos are poorly created websites and only have classic games.

But, I'm concerned what if telegram block my number and I still have balances in my account? does I can't withdraw my money? just like this thread Becareful with telegram wallet! (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5491574.0).

For the time being we're purely on Telegram, safe and secure :)


I'll look into the demo mode on games and see if such could be enabled on Telegram. Will get back to you soon!


I can tell you that it's good and it's true. :) When it comes to wagering requirements: In general it won't stop bonus abusing as people can create multiple accounts under different identity and try to hit big with that extra balance from deposit bonuses and then grind many hours or even days to clear the wager requirement (assuming user is a legit player, not a bonus abuser). Locking user funds are a bit predatory, just my opinion though.

You can verify our license by going to https://playgram.io -> scroll down to the footer and clicking the Curaçao icon. Then you'll land to the license validator page.


We currently do accept TON. The method we have is similar to normal Bitcoin deposit/withdrawal - copy wallet address and press send. To improve that process we're currently working on TON wallet integration and when that's ready, you'll be amazed how easy and quick it is to send and receive funds  :o


We've decided not to offer deposit bonuses in the usual way. For example: Get 100% up to 0.005 Bitcoin with 40x wager requirement. What we mean by wager free/real cash rewards is that when you get free spins and win, the winnings come without wager requirement. Another example could be that you receive your weekly cashback based on your gameplay. You can either decide to play with that or withdraw it. It's yours to keep in any case.


I'm glad to hear you like the design! Also very good question! I'll check with our team and get back to you as well on this soon! :)

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Good question because winning from free spins can be a big amount if the player has a great luck while playing it.
No wagering requirement is fine but if there is no other requirement/term behind the winning from the free spins, then yes it can be easily abused.
If I have to guess, there must be something like max amount to withdraw from the winning of free spins.
There can also be other requirement such as the deposit need to be wagered first in order to be allowed to withdraw.
OP needs to explain all the terms of this bonus to avoid confusion as well as to avoid possible complaints later.

Other casino like Duelbits, Bitcasino and Winz.io offer a non wager requirements to all the rewards given from their event such as free spin. I believe they only offer a low bet amount out of the free spin probably the bare minimum of spin amount which is 0.1$ per spin.

It’s too good to be true if the rewards is on cash already and not from the free spin especially that the game is on Gates of Olympus which is a volatile game from Pragmatic. Most probably you will get a penny out of that free spin.

I guess telegram now is really developed.

Basically, (Playgram) are offering access of their casino with web version based of telegram source web view code. While only can be access via telegram by opening a pops up web view from telegram. First tough to see these, I was wondering how to play (Gate Of Olympus) on Telegram. Find out, it's opened a pops-up web view version on telegram ~LOL BTW for people who are thinking (Anonymously) without KYC, they still have (AML/KYC) things.

After you opened the casino with web view based telegram, you will find the detail on everything about their casino. Scroll down to bottom for find any kind of (T&C, Privacy, and other).

Welcome to bitcointalk platform. You have a unique announcement thread here. I see you already acquired a copper membership which shows are obedient you are in obeying platforms policy. I have visited your telegram casino and I must commend you for that. The features of your casino are very much interesting. Your user interface are quite alright to start with.
If I may ask, do you have a minimum deposit as I checked I could not find it but saw a deposit amount for bonus.
What plans do you have in promoting your casino here as you can see your casino would have competitors here to contend with for a stronger and wider publicity.

Define Anonymously, because i don't see that feature in your TOS.

https://www.playgram.io/c-3-lightbox.html
3.4. You may not use a VPN, proxy or similar services or devices that mask or manipulate the identification of your real location.

And if we go to the footer on your site and click on the AML, we will see the next:


So, your casino doesn't after Anonymous gambling that's a fake claim.

But the fact that you bring the slots providers to telegram is awesome, +1 for your developers, they did an awesome job on this move, but what i don't get is why only limit the casino to telegram, if you already have a license the you could offer it on both platforms, Telegram and Web site.

In fact, I am also surprised that your platform is active on Telegram under a legal license, especially since you promise to guarantee complete privacy, meaning that identity verification procedures (Kyc) will not be imposed. So I thought of verifying the license mentioned at the bottom of the site’s home page:

Searching for how to verify this I found the only way to do so by access the Chamber of Commerce website for Curaçao; https://www.curacaochamberofcommerce.com/registry-services/registry-search/
Yes, there is a license granted with the same number listed on the website to the same company mentioned.

Does this license give you the authority not to impose identity verification procedures Kyc and enable users to use the service with complete privacy?

What also caught my attention is that the license was granted on today 05/10/2024. Does this mean that the casino was not operating before today's date? Did you take the time to verify the effectiveness of all functions before launching?

I'm not sure when they have launched their casino, but their domain has been registered a few months ago. The 'Curacao Commercial Register' shows the current date and time under the registration number line. Looks like you misunderstood the date of their license registration by watching that. MIBS N.V. has established in the October month of 2022 (https://talkimg.com/images/2024/05/10/1aAZg.jpeg). Here is another Casino in the forum (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5486683.0) which is owned and operated by "MIBS N.V." And there are a few more casinos (https://www.askgamblers.com/online-casinos/companies/mibs-n-v) under the same company. By operating under Curacao operator, Playgram can't say that they are KYC free casino.

Anyway, you may follow this thread for license and KYC related inquiries: Information of Crypto Casinos License and KYC requirements (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5381143.0)

It's not the first time I am hearing about the playgram, but I did not bother to check how your casino looks, but I finally got to do that now, and I like how the site looks. 

Welcome to the forum. I believe not everyone already knows that Telegram now has a casino, so it will do your casino good to organize a signature promotion on the forum for the sake of more publicity, just like @Yaunfitda once suggested. We have so many professional signature managers on this forum that you can contract to assist in promoting your casino. The managers we have here are: julerz12 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=950662), CryptopreneurBrainboss (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1052091), Hhampuz (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=881377), icopress (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1137579), AB de Royse777 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=366632), and yahoo62278 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=355846). You can contact any of them for the job.

I see, I want to give an example just to be sure I understand it. so on the original post, there is a "$50 deposit: Get 25 VIP spins on Gates of Olympus", Does this mean that we get a $50 dollar credit on our account and 25 VIP spins on Gates of Olympus and everything that is won on those 25 VIP spins doesn't have a wagering requirement and can be withdrawn immediately?

Welcome to the forum, your name really indicates that this is a telegram casino. You are probably the first crypto casino on Bitcointalk that's licensed by the Government of the Autonomous Island of Anjouan, Union of Comoros. Usually, every casino is licensed by Curacao or Costa Rica. I'm curious about why you decided to use this license.
Btw I wonder why are so many casinos today creating a telegram casino instead of traditional, www casinos? Is this because of marketing or is there any loophole or what is the reason? Telegram casinos are basically not different from web casinos, we just get access to www.something.io via Telegram app.

It true that the casino environment is kinda diversion to the telegram based casino's. As we already know one of the renowned telegram based casino the bons.
And for the cause this I think maybe it being more users friendly? Like easy to access don't need to go or open browsers. I have used some telegram based casino and what I got from them it's more faster and smoother using the chrome or any browser.

Yeah, that is something which actually came to my mind as well. Sounds very weird and kind of unrealistic a casino which is based and run in a platform like Telegram somehow managed to get licensed by some reputable license issuers, specifically those in the same league which provide of license to big and reliable casinos.
Perhaps OP is trying to mean his casino running on Telegram is some kind of extension or addon to some web domain/desktop casino he wants to use for the sake of getting the license, otherwise, I find it very difficult to license issuers to set such precedent and giving green light to a casino of this characteristics.

Also, realistically, they are going to implement wagering restrictions on those bonuses, for the sake of their profitably, if they do not then the abuse by gamblers will be inevitable.

You can find full details in the app when you press "PROMO" and choose "Read More". Here's couple points from the VIP spins welcome offer terms and conditions:

11. There is no maximum win limit for Free Spins; enjoy your winnings without restrictions.
12. Winnings from Free Spins have no wagering requirements and are credited as real money.

When it comes to deposit being wagered. As for now it's 1x the deposit amount.


We're offering VIP spins: 5x the value of regular free spins ;)


By default, Telegram as a platform is rather anonymous, private and secure and that also means we're not collecting much information about our customers. I could probably even say that we collect less than most other crypto casinos simply due to the platform we use :)

When it comes to KYC procedures. It can be triggered for example based on which deposit method is being used: Choose between Crypto or Buy Crypto. The latter option uses a third-party on-ramp service, and we have no control over whether they enforce KYC, similar to many crypto exchanges.

Then where KYC procedures are mostly used is, as unfortunate as it is: To prevent fraudulent activity. Whether it's multi-accounting, bonus abuse, money laundering or taking over someones account etc.

At the end we could've gone without a license, but I believe choosing a license brings trust to every party involved :)

About the website: Nothing can match the feeling you get when you finally get something after waiting for it for a long time ;)


It means when you deposit $50 or more, you get credited 25 VIP spins to Gates of Olympus. Whatever you win with VIP free spins are yours to keep, not locked by wager requirement. As a general rule any deposit amount should be wagered 1x before making a withdrawal request. In this case total bets should equal to $50 or more.

Please note: This is not a traditional deposit match up bonus. Just a free spins offer with VIP flair. :)


Thank you! The text was left there by accident: We're licensed in Curaçao :) About Telegram casinos popping up, I'd guess it's a great opportunity to create the most seamless casino experience. No app installations, possibility to integrate TON and it also gives players a bit more privacy.


There's many Telegram Mini Apps on the platform that I'd recommend to look around :) In theory you can make any website to run through Telegram Web App. It's like a mobile version of the website which can feel and look quite clunky. Ours is developed specifically to work on Telegram.

Also like mentioned before on this thread, there's few other brands that also offer rewards to players without wager requirement. It's definitely more rare than deposit bonuses, but I feel it's the right way to go and this way players always control their money if they wish to withdraw or play live casino for example.

Phew! What a long post :D

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First time to hear that place. For sure, there are advantages why they used that licensing authority. Anyway, they are running telegram casino and you are in luck if they will purchase Curacao license to operate.

By the way, the dilemma of deploying telegram casino is that usually it is short-lived for so many reasons. Hard to attract high rollers also. This is why, most of them can only attract small time players, who are always on the go.

But I appreciate their rep here as he is quite active for now. Who knows, building reputation takes time and he may have what it takes to convince players from the forum to try and be one of their patrons?

Just to clear it out once more. There was a small oversight on that part of the website copy: We're licensed in Curaçao :)

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This is possibly the very first online casino i coming across with such a a mouth watering bonus and yet, without a wager requirement, I will be telling a lie if I say that I am not tempted right now to deposit and seize this those free vip spins, and see whats locked in there in gates of Olympus for me.

By the way, it's my first time as well coming across this Ann on this forum, as well as the casino itself, so, permit me to say "welcome to the forum again", I am very active user of telegram and to be honest, I am amazed at the rate by which services are launching on that app, most especially in the area of gambling, alot of online casinos are over there on telegram and they all seem to be doing well for themselves.

But amongst them all I've seen and possibly tested, I think is will be the best so far, simply because of this bonuses, I am.gonna try my luck here later, let's see how it goes.

Hi welcome to the Bitcoin forum, Playgram! There are only very few casinos here that their platform are in Telegram which is really an easy access platform, was it only accessible through Telegram? (just checked it, it seems it's only in Telegram). Anyway just like what I've snipped below, it's not that anonymous as there's an AML policy that you have.

I like your free spins with no wager requirement by the way, definitely try this site in the couple of days.

Welcome to bitcointalk Playgram , I love your uniqueness here as you are offering different approach for gamblers but I don't know coz i do not trust telegram completely for what this has been in the past.
anyway  good luck mate and hoping that you will gather more interests and players from bitcointalk.org.

Fake users will try to impersonate others but that does not mean anything on Telegram is suspicious. Telegram is a tool and using the tool one can create an app which can be unique, interesting and beneficial to others and some scammer can impersonate their reputation and scam others. You need to be careful when you are interacting on Telegram. It's not only on Telegram but on any internet platform.

The project looks unique and interesting to me.

Hey Playgram.io welcome to bitcointalk forum. I have already explored your casino it's quite fast for me and the designs are also eye catching  but one I think I got missed in your casino is sportsbooks, why don't you add the sports betting options in your casino or is there any planing to adding it in the future?

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I have also noticed that they are only telegram-based they have a website but no interactions with the games. I think they targeting the only telegram lovers gamblers as well as mobile phone-friendly gambling sites.

It's good to come back again to present a casino that is played on Telegram then I visited your casino on PC but the display is not attractive at all there are some broken images as in the text writing that is not clearly visible but for me playing Telegram casinos it will be better on mobile than on PC.

I also have a question like other users but have not found the right answer, when the teleram number is blocked and have a balance in this casino what should I do? If the number is blocked will all the balance be lost or will the casino refund the balance?

This is my simple question.

I've checked this with our team and we can perform some verification and reimburse the player. On this subject I cannot really go more into detail. I hope you understand. About the broken text or images, it would be great if you could please take screenshots and send it to me by PM so we can look into it further.


I'm glad to hear that you also like the design! Regarding the sportsbook, I can reveal that it's on the roadmap ;) We still have a decent amount of work to do to improve the casino product and the app itself.

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Actually we don't have any problem with this just wanted to question earlier but I understand what you mean by not explaining in more detail but at least there is an explanation that can be understood by verifying and then reimbursing the player as you said, but it depends on the problem and verification by the casino team department.
Now here for me is quite clear. ;)

Is this a sign that more telegram based casinos will be a trend this year? I have no idea about the number of active gamblers who is willing to gamble through telegram but I believe most gamblers still prefer to gamble using browser. Do you provide browser version of your casino too or it is available in telegram only? Anyway your offer seems to be quite attractive because the free spins has no wagering requirement, maybe I've tried it if you have browser version but if it is only playable through telegram then I have to think twice. Welcome and good luck though.

At the moment it looks like they only have the Telegram version. On the site there are no game to play on browser.

I think what is written in the first post is already clear. They did not say that we will get a $50 bonus on top of our $50 deposit but instead what we will be getting is 25 free spins on the Gates of Olympus slot game. You are correct though that we don't need to wager anymore what we have won on that free spins, which is cool.

My only concern is if how much is the worth of those free spins? It would be better if they will be more transparent and include it there as well, so that we already know what to expect and we can decide if we will still continue depositing/playing there or not. I already got caught with this one in the past, where I hastily deposit but to my surprise the bets per spin are only just a few cents. My happiness turned into sadness in real quick, lol.

What exactly are you thinking twice about bud, I myself having tried quite a number of telegram based casinos and their games, I am actually surprised that some of us still kind of act like we are skeptic about telegram casinos.

From my personal experience, I can tell for sure that telegram based casino are just as good as the web versions, they are also very safe, just as safe as the web versions as well.
And again, looking at the number of telegram casinos coming onboard almost on daily or weekly basis, I am tempted to say that soon, telegram based casinos might end up being the new trend in online casinos, I won't be surprised if this trend even starts  before we enter into the coming bull run proper.

I have not tried this casino yet, but will do as soon as I get some extra funds for gambling, I like the bonus offer, very mouth watering I must say, and I can't wait to take advantage of that to try out my luck.
Welcome to the forum guys.

Maybe it'a upcoming trend - there's definitely the potential for it as more people have mobiles vs PC or laptops. In theory you can also explore Playgram on your PC or laptop by installing Telegram desktop app ;) The best experience would still be on a mobile device.


Each VIP spin is valued at $0.60 :)

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Talking about this issue of people's preferences when using casinos, the times I've looked on this forum at the casino ann thread and on casino review sites, it seems to me that Telegram casinos haven't been very successful, I could be wrong. But let's look at this forum, how many Telegram casinos have been operating and running a signature campaign for many months? I have hardly seen any Telegram casino running a signature campaign lasting at least 6 months. This can be interpreted that Telegram casinos are mostly low-budget casinos, which is why they cannot run a signature campaign for a long time.

Therefore, big players will hardly use Telegram casinos, even small players are scared. It is true that many new sites also have low budgets but most of them also turn out to be failures. So I ask you: will your casino run a signature campaign? It's true that running a signature campaign doesn't guarantee clients, I'm also not getting into the question of whether it would bring in many clients or not. When I ask about running a signature campaign and even so I can have an idea of what bankroll level your casino has, a casino with a high bankroll level can spend a lot of money on marketing campaigns, but like I said, most telegram casinos , seems to have been created by people with a very low level of bankroll who don't even have marketing funds

You have mentioned yourself, I'm one those who are being skeptical about telegram (not the casino). I do have telegram account but I do not use it regularly. One other reason is that I prefer web version when it comes to gambling because I feel it better than mobile application based. All in all, it is about preferences so no matter how good this casino is but if I'm still not able to enjoy gambling through telegram, I will still think twice to try it :). Hopefully they will have the web version later.

Hey there! Telegram casinos started to pop up about a year ago so it's a bit tough to compare if any brand has run a signature campaign for 6 months already, but I do get your point.

The reason why I think Telegram casinos haven't been too active on Bitcointalk is that even though this forum is a great place to talk with fellow crypto enthusiasts and learn about new products, so is Telegram itself. Therefore putting resources there isn't a bad bet either :)

To get back to your question: We're having internal discussion about running a signature campaign and we have a line of people waiting in PMs on who would be chosen to run it. Decision on the campaign will be made soon :)

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OP I am meant to understand that telegram is an anonymous platform and possibly you chose there for that purpose. Now why do you want players to send or make payment with account that bears their names with cards.  How about if a player deposits from their wallets with no name and means of identity, would you deny them of deposit? And another thing I saw is that you did not mention KYC but you stated in one of the paragraph that you can request for KYC if the needs arises. Would it not have been better you stated it clear for all to see that you have a KYC policy so that nobody feels tricked after playing and wanting to withdraw and you request for KYC.


What are the security checks put in place for this exercise when such scenario comes up. Can you state them here so that everyone can see it and possibly make suggestions on how to improve on it to serve your better.

Welcome to bitcointalk forum!
I opened Playgram casino in telegram and I it all worked great, I dont see any registration or login form, that is very nice and fast way to play games.
But is someone going to ask me for KYC verification in future for withdrawing or any other reasons, and how will that work?

Hey! We'd love it if everyone would own crypto or would want to gamble with it. Unfortunately that's not the case yet, which is why we also offer the option to buy crypto by using a card for example. This service is provided by a 3rd party and as explained on earlier post, they might have separate verification similar to crypto exchanges.

Regarding denying a crypto deposit, we don't have any KYC procedures before making a crypto deposit and therefore we wouldn't be be able to deny such if customer is able to make a deposit. KYC itself is not really our unique selling points towards players and us and many crypto casinos being licensed, there's a possibility that KYC procedures could be triggered based on player actions whether it's buying crypto or trying to fraud us and so on.

This is what we wrote earlier about the KYC procedures:


About the additional security checks. It really depends on case by case basis what the check would be whether it's a fraud or a legit player. I cannot unfortunately go any more deeper on that.


Thank you! One click registration is quite magical ;) I think the reply to CryptSafe on this post explains the basic of KYC procedures for you as well.

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Hey guys!

Over the weekend I found this thread about Telegram casinos (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5491601.0) in the Gambling discussion board and left a comment on it. Take a cup of coffee and have read through the whole thread. What I noticed is that people tend to have quite strong opinions about Telegram as a platform, a bit unexpected I'd say :)

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This offer is quite tempting and something not to be ignored for those like to play Gates of Olympus especially there is no wagering requirement for the winning.
I'll try it soon, maybe later today and hopefully I can win nice amount from the VIP spins and I can share it here.
Btw why dont you accept TRX? One more question, should the deposit amount be exact $50 or it can be a bit more like $51?

Hi @panjul07!

The offer indeed is tempting ;) The minimum deposit to receive VIP spins is $50 so anything above works as well.

About TRX, I'm glad you mentioned it as we do accept it, but it's missing on the front page. When you go to Wallet and open the dropdown menu you can find TRX :) Meanwhile I'll tell our developers to add the TRX icon back to front page.

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Sorry for asking this.

However, do you have some details about the promotion? I mean, like fully detailed. Just want to check in case the deposit we're made needed to passed wagering, or perhaps just 1x deposit waggering and then we can withdraw our 50$.

Just curious, thanks.

Questions are always welcome! Any deposit made should be wagered 1x before a withdrawal request can be made.

From T&C

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Happy with the clarity and the transparency so far, and needless say that your activeness on the forum  and promptness in answering questions here is super encouraging, I love it and can only advice you keep it up.

Maybe this have been suggested before, but I will again suggest it and maybe you guys reconsider making a decision about this if you havent, it's about running an advertisement campaign on this forum, I honestly believe running an advertisement campaign will create more awareness of this casino, which also may bring about more users as well.
Anyways, just think about it.

Thank you. So, just need to finish 1x wagering deposit.

Yes, I know these rules. It's most common rules in casino for deposit wagering to avoid money laundry, just want to make sure my deposit is not getting any additional waggering due taken the promotion.

Thanks for the response.

My account have problem
I cant creat transtaction withdrawal
Please help me
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Hey PVTE93! We're sorry for the inconvenience. It appears there was a minor technical issue on our end and I've been informed that it has now been resolved. Our support team should be in touch soon if they haven’t already responded.

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it worked. Today is my lucky day. Thank you very much

Telegram is a platform that provides different opportunities. Bad people use telegram to scam others easily and for them Telegram is an easy platform to hide their trace because of the options to change username, creating groups and things. Not long ago a scammer, I suspect a group targeted me. They were so perfect that even after having enormous experience with Telegram I got confused and believed that it's my client.

They approached me in different layers. One account "impersonated me" on my Telegram group, another account was warning me ("impersonating a potential client") about that impersonate account. Then "the impersonate potential client" continued relationship with me and he introduced another impersonate account as his team member.

The first impersonate person then "impersonate my former client". Took 0.019xx BTC in two transactions. Then offered me business and wanted to take more. I was even ready to give him 0.1 BTC (to help him with his bad situation) until I strongly started to investigate and found it's the same account that impersonate me on my Telegram group.

All these time the impersonating potential client was with me (more than two days). His "assistant" agreed to launch a signature campaign under my management service. Agreed to send $6000 upfront to start the campaign. Then the assistant forwarded the payment request to her boss (the impersonate potential client). He then was asking me to send $120 fees to move the fund. When he gave me the ERC20 address I found the address has no balance. Then I started to investigate the the potential impersonate client and found out it's the same person who was:
1. First impersonate me on my telegram group
2. Warned me about the person who was impersonating me on my telegram group.
3. Impersonate my former client and took 0.019xx btc
4. Him as the potential impersonating client.
5. Him also as his assistant.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5494985.0, I did not continue discussion on that topic anymore though


Five different telegram accounts with more than five Telegram groups. I think for one person it's very hard to maintain the number of accounts and memorize which account had which interaction of the character. There are scammer groups in telegram - not a single guy. There are many groups like them.

But does it make Telegram a bad place? I don't think it does. Telegram is a platform. It's up to the users who are using it. Some will always use it in bad way.

I tried it hours ago but I was not lucky enough with the 25FS since I won less than 5EUR from the free spins.
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Played with my deposit + the winning from the fs, almost managed to double it before lost it all eventually. LOL
Frankly speaking this is the first time I play slot game through telegram and I can say that it is a nice experience.
Games can be loaded quickly and no significant issue when I played it hours ago.
Will try again for the 2nd deposit later, hope to get better luck on my 2nd try.

It happens for all :-D

I am trying on my mobile device and for me it's first time too. The problem for me is my Telegram is on Orbot and it feels like taking years to load the interface. Hopefully there will be some demo games to check before checking the system with real money.

Well, first of all, congratulations on your win, though it's not large but then, still something that is better than nothing.. Oh, but wait, did you say you later lost it all back to the casino?  ;D, that is the dark side of slot games actually.

I also played for the very first time, slot game on a telegram casino known as whale, the experience was super amazing, I won about 5 Ton coin from my deposit of 0.2 ton coin, I stopped playing after this winning because I was afraid that I would lose it all back.
I went back to the casino the next day, played the same game and lost 3 Ton coin out of the 5 I won the previous day, at a point, I knew that if I continue to play, I will lose it all, I decide to withdraw my remaining balance when it fell a little below 2 ton.

Overall, telegram casinos are really good and also very convenient, I feel that in the near future, telegram casinos will make wave in the online gambling market, they are developing and becoming popular really fast.

Yap, I must agree on the load.

IMO, Playgram is more comfortable and suitable for accessing using a Mobile/Smartphone. I tried to to access with (Laptop) and yes we can access them via (Laptop/Komputer) the problem for Telegram Redirect, we don't have maximize feature.

Meaning, you play the game with minimize with the size of smarphone/mobile size. ~xd

I am careful with any new casinos but I hope it turns out your casino is legit but it is going to take some time for you to prove this and gain more trust from customers.
Some members posted issues with withdrawal in forum and in telegram, but I wanted to ask if you charge any fees for withdrawing Bitcoin?
I am using other casinos daily that dont charge anything, not even transaction fees.

This is interesting, it never crossed my mind. I know only sportsbet.io who do not charge a withdrawal fees. The response will be off-topic though but if you want you can create a new topic. Do you know a list of casinos who do not charge for deposit and withdrawals. I think this is a good perimeter to filter and look a casino from a new dimension.

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Hey, just a small information
- Minimum withdraw 10 Euro
- There is no (fee) withdraw as long you are finished 1x deposit wagering otherwise you can be charge 8% from the total fund you have (minimum 4 euro)

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Anyway, they also have fee inactive accounts. So make sure, you not leaving any fund with such a long time in the site other needed to pay extra fee

Hi again! I've checked with our tech team and unfortunately at the time being there's no demo games support in Telegram :-\


Here's our policy on fees:

Deposit: Usually blockchain fee or fixed fee if deposit is from an exchange. Depends where crypto is sent from. If buying crypto for a deposit, there would be fees from 3rd party service provider.
Withdrawal: No fees 8)


Inactive account fee is quite standard in the industry. In short the inactivity time is 12 months and you'd also be notified beforehand when action would be taken from our side. Here's a quote from our T&C


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What about creating an inbuilt token that users can use to play in your casino? I believe it will be a great idea to implement.

I have seen it in several sites, where a token was created and new/existing users can easily use them to test out games without having to first make any deposit...

I think building a token would be a big project overall and building a one just for demo funds would probably take decent amount of resources as well. Could you please PM me sites that have this built-in token that is used for demo playing slots and we could take a look :)

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Not fees for withdrawal is great. How about the withdrawal wallet network fees. As example when I will request a 1BTC withdrawal, will I receive 1BTC or I will receive 1BTC - Transaction fees?

All withdrawal fees are covered entirely by us and therefore it won't affect the player withdrawal amount :)

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Sportsbet, Livecasino and few other websites dont charge any fee for withdrawing coins to noncustodial walelt, and we have topic created by one of out members that is tracking this fees on many crypto casinos:
thhttps://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5333602.0

Thank you for warning.
Good to know they have inactivity fee.

Thank you for confirmation.
Maybe we can soon add sugegstion for listing Playgram in topic for tracking fees.
Can I see the list of all supported coins that can be purchased from Playgram for deposit?

It's sad you don't use the Telegram wallet service "Wallet Pay", deposits and withdrawals would be instant and deposit transactions would cost nothing to your customers. They would certainly feel more confident to be able to use your casino without having to leave any funds there after playing. Waiting for deposits and withdrawals, and paying transaction fees each time usually make most people reluctant to use crypto platforms if they are not ready to leave funds onto custodial services.

I did take the 2nd deposit earlier today, again I'm not lucky enough with the VIP free spins as I won less than $10 but better than my first try.
Tested the withdrawal after playing for while, terms says that first withdrawal may take up to 24 hours but I received the withdrawal within 3 hours.
Will take the 3rd deposit + VIP FS today and hopefully I'll get more luck since I'll get 50FS which means more chance to get something better.
So far so good experience with this telegram based casino, just need more luck to win big here LOL. 

In that case you must have a minimum withdrawal requirement otherwise someone will start requesting to withdraw 0.0003 BTC or even less and you are going to spend the transaction fees for it which is totally waste and loss for you.

Thanks bud, it's helpful.

When buying crypto for the deposit, you have Bitcoin, Ethereum, Litecoin, DOGE, TRX and Solana.


We're working on Wallet/Tonkeeper integration as we speak. Go live date is not known yet ;)

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I have deposit and play games on playgram
but when I withdrew money they asked me to verify my identity
i sent my documents to them, but it's been 5 days and i still haven't withdrawn my money :(:(:(

This will be interesting for me as I have never used Telegram payment system.

They must gave you a reason. Do you mind sharing it with us?

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Hi quintenesmeralda288,

I've sent you a PM to request more details about your account so I can look into your case.

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Important Update: Addressing Bonus Abuse

Hello Bitcointalk community!

Recently, we have encountered an issue with a group of players which activities violate our bonus terms and conditions. To ensure transparency and maintain the integrity of our platform, we want to address this matter directly here.

What Happened?
A group of players exploited our welcome offer by engaging in minimal risk betting strategies and displaying coordinated behavior that goes against the spirit of fair play. Our team has identified patterns that clearly indicate an abuse from multiple sources.

Our Terms says:


As per our Terms and Conditions, we have taken action against these accounts. The affected accounts have been thoroughly reviewed and appropriate measures have been taken.

At Playgram, we take the integrity of our platform seriously. We continuously monitor gameplay to ensure compliance with our terms and conditions. Our primary goal is to protect our loyal players and provide a level playing field for everyone.

Now I do hope that 1% don't ruin the fun for 99% of players and we get to keep the VIP spins welcome offer for the real players :)

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Sorry to hear about that, but this small group of cheaters are always targeting new casinos and they only make rest of us look bad  :(
If they are forum members you should post all their usernames and connections you find between them, maybe this will slow them down a little.

I'd say that they're not "real" members of the forum in terms of input. For example the user in question, also familiar on this thread was quintenesmeralda288. The account was created a couple of years ago, but the first posts were made very recently.

Anyway, as far as I know, they've moved on so happy days :D

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I guess this is common, there are many such groups who will try to exploit you whenever they have chance. It's a big challenge for any gambling platform.

In my opinion, you should post proof of this accusation that you are making, because it is easy to come to this thread and accuse a group of people and not say who these people are, on what day and time and how they committed these abuses and then take these measures, like this So your casino comes out with a good image by putting these measures in place, because if your casino didn't mention anything about bonus abuse and put these measures in place, people would probably complain and not use your casino, but with the argument you used that there are bonus abusers, you have a good image. I think the right thing to do is to post proof of who these bonus abusers are and how they are abusing the bonus.

In their last reply they already mentioned the name of one of the abusers (a newbie account). Tbh, I don't think there is a need to disclose their names since they most likely don't have accounts here or they use throw-away accounts.
OP also explained how they abused the welcome bonus on the reply you quoted. They did so by placing minimal risk bets to complete the wagering requirement without losing match.

Abusers always use throw-away accounts. I remember with one of the casino who offered no deposit bonus, there were over 19k or 20k accounts registered in two days I guess and almost all of them were fake accounts just to claim the bonus.

Hopefully what I did with their welcome bonus is not considered as abuse :)
I took all their 3 VIP free spins deposit bonus, I lost all my 1st deposit although actually I managed to double it before lost it all eventually.
Made my 2nd deposit 2-3 days later for the other 25 FS, again I doubled my deposit but I withdraw my deposit + small winning after wagering more than 3x of my deposit.
A day later I took the 3rd deposit bonus 50FS, still no luck with the FS since I won no more than $15 from the free spins.
Again played with my deposit + winning from the FS, wagered more than 2x and withdraw small profit.
In overall, my stats is still negative with my 3x deposit.  ;D

As mentioned by @khaled0111, we've shared necessary information about this specific case. At the time the abuse started, we had not launched any major campaigns to promote Playgram. Therefore, it was relatively easy to spot when large amounts of repetitive actions began to occur.

Don't worry @panjul07, you're on the safe side :D There's no special lever I can pull to change your luck, but I wish you good luck in the games anyway!

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Thanks, anyway I receive message on telegram from your side about the VIP spins deposit bonus with a link to claim it.
Is it a mistake or did you send it to all? Because I took all the deposit bonus but the message is like that I have never took it.
Or maybe players may take the deposit bonus again (like a 2nd chance), that's why I received the message to claim the bonus LOL?
I would be very happy if I can take the deposit bonus for the 2nd chance, at least I can have another opportunity to test my luck with the VIP spins. :)

Hey, unfortunately it's the welcome offer that's available only for the first 3 deposits. No second chance, yet ;)

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Wow! This is amazing. From the way I see the casino this the real no KYC casino because as you open the channel in the telegram and the next thing you will see is *deposit and play" and when you click on the link. All the games in the platform will appear and once you deposit, you click on the game and start to play. The casino is nice. I was not thinking of a casino like this would emanate from telegram because it has been tag as a scammers zone. Because because of the cryptocurrency mining apps these days telegram is loaded with participants. And with this new input of casinos in the handle they will have more participants. You are welcome to the forum.

Yeah, there are several casinos running on telegram and I can tell you that they all amazing, I personally forsee a future where telegram casino will possibly become much more dominant than the regular www casinos we have reigning today.

And speaking of kyc, well, telegram casinos might not require kyc from players because the telegram wallet already covers that, understand that this telegram casinos are easily connected to your inbuilt telegram wallet on your approval, and this helps with easy and convenient deposit and withdrawal of funds, it's almost like a decentralized casinos, but then, telegram inbuilt wallet require it's users to pass kyc verification, since the wallet isn't really a decentralized one, it functions like a cex actually, so, I guess the kyc for the wallet covers for the centralized platforms that are connecting to it.

They will be detected by the casino system. It's not easy for them to pass through many layers of security and cheating detective tools on system of the casino.

The casino can launch the welcome bonus program with easy tersm, but practically they must think deeply and add more terms to avoid abuse, though they have many tools to detect multi accounts and will refuse payment for farm accounts from abusers.

If they don't have any tool for multi account detection, their platform can be abused and collapsed, run out of money before the easy Welcome bonus program. The wave of 19k or 20k accounts come and try to cheat can be real but I believe very few of them can claim bonuses.

The pain for platform operator is by launching an easy program, they will face with many noise, accusations later from cheaters that failed to claim bonuses.

Programs must be designed strict, careful and with consultation with experts to minimize risk of getting exploitation, noise, accusations.

I didn't know about this platform until you guys ran signature campaign here on BitcoinTalk. Your bitcoinTalk signature campaign has been great help for your platform because if it weren't for the signature campaign, I wouldn't have known about your platform. I didn't know you had thread here on BitcoinTalk, I only found out now because of your signature campaign.

Anyway, question since it didn't indicate how much the value per spin is: How much the per spin of this Gate of Olympus VIP spin?

How generous of you guys to give 3 deposit bonuses while others only offers single deposit bonus as this shows
how you really wanted to satisfy your players by giving so.

And also that NO KYC thing of yours that comes true from your words , and that will gain you new players like me .

Now I will finally create my account as I have been watching since the thread created

All casino system especially their providers have multi account detection tools. An abuser may think he is very smart, in some case some may be but at some point the tool will detect it eventually.

I signature campaign always brings to brand in front of the audience. Many people do not visit the gambling board all the time but since a signature campaign spreads all over the forum, it easily receive attention to introduce the brand. I am glad you finally found them :-)

Sure signature campaign are one of the best way of promoting your business, especially with world class manager as yourself with enough experience. I believe you'll do just fine as usual and playgram would return with thanks to your amazing management skills.

I like the fact that playgram has considered the privacy of its users and built a non KYC gambling experience. In the case of abusers I believe using their IP address would be a good solution to solving this issue.

Hey! Each spin is worth $0.60 :)

I also noticed some mentions us being a no KYC casino. That is not true simply due to us having a license and with license comes some rules to follow. Quote from a previous post where we talked about it.


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I'll start by saying congratulations on the launch of your signature campaign. This would give you a better marketing visibility on this great platform coupled with the fact that you got a good manager who is in charge of it. Advertising is a good strategy that helps promote a product to a larger community or audience. It's focus is getting traffic and potential clients or customers to the organisation or business.

Lastly, with respect to the violation of your casino bonus package and others, I think you should take a step in improvising, providing a good cheat or multiple accounts detecting device for your casino so that this incidence or occurrences does not repeat itself again. Events as this causes a big set back for casinos that could not be able to detect it very fast and before they could, in some cases the cheaters must have executed their ill intentions towards the casino which is very bad and a big loss too.
Just as you have said, continuous monitoring of gameplay would be safe for your casino to be able to detect suspicious activities by cheaters so as not to run your casino down.

The Playgram signature campaign is CFNP now. The campaign week is going to start from the next Saturday. Please check more details (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5498737.msg64171824#msg64171824).

A review campaign is in the pipeline to launch. Please stay in touch.

I've checked it out - but first, thanks to you, @AB de Royse777. You have made me one of the participant in the campaign - I hope we will have a pleasant journey here. Unfortunately there were only 4 application accepted - but I hope the number will increase over time.

Good luck to you @AB de Royse777 and Playgram.

Hope there will be not only sign campaign and review campaign, exclusive contest for bitcointalk members would be nice :)
For now I do not see another attractive offer on the platform except the the 1st-3rd deposit bonus.
Maybe because I have not explore the platform more, is there any attractive thing that I missed?
Something like VIP program or maybe on-site contest/competitions seems to be unavailable right now.

I will propose it to the team and find out if they can create such setup. This will be a good addition in their marketing options to attracts high rollers and making the platform attractive to the serious players.

Any new programs or contests for bitcointalk users will be posted when available. You can take advantage of the current available bonus and stick around for future ones.

I took all the available bonus, even earlier today I received free spins but I did not win much as it was 5FS only with $0.1 per spin.
That's why I asked about other possible promotions on the platform, because promotion can be said as crucial thing in a casino.
Less promotion = less interest as what I can see in some casinos where I used to spend my money and time.

Nice to hear that, hopefully they will consider to launch it soon but ofc I know it needs to be discussed by the management.
Nowadays VIP program is like a must have program to be competitive in the gambling industry.

Alright, we will wait and see what the team has in store in terms of bonuses and specific competitions on the forum. You should also note that while casinos offer bonuses often, it's not done all the time. The casino needs to find the balance between ease of usage (deposits/withdrawals), list of available games, customer support efficiency and provably fair options.

During the intervals between bonuses, we just have to play and have fun on the website and possibly win some profits.

That's definitely going to attract more bettors to the casino and don't forget also for them to add up some new bonus offers like a free prediction pool and other creative ideas just like other casino are actively doing, at the moment it might seem as nothing but believe me that definitely attracks so much more user's to try out their luck with promotions.

Are there any ways to play a bigger window or screen if I am using the desktop application of Telegram on MacOS?
I already tried on my mobile phone to play using android Telegram and it's really easy to use and very light only while playing. Now, I want to try it on my Telegram application on MacOS.

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I'm not a MacOS user - so I'm not sure if I can give you any input. However it seems - the screen display for windows is also the same as what happened to you, but if you need a quick response then maybe you need to reach out to the Playgram Casino Community and find out the input.

Considering that Playgram.io account has not been active in the last few days - the quick solution is below:

Playgram Casino Community (https://t.me/playgrammers)

Telegram casinos lately are treding, seeing more updates everyday from new games to new features. I mean everything good has some negative points as we discussed before in other topics of Telegram casinos.
Certainly there will be a big fan community of gamblers that are using Telegram in daily basis, so automatically having a casino inside this platform is a great thing for them. Personally, I'm a very fan of these casinos, however, my first experience with Poker Telegram platform wasn't good, but it won't effect my next experiences since what happened is a mistake from me choosing a wrong pokers platform.

The only negative point I see is when the Telegram platform goes down due to servers failure or anything else that stops users from accessing it, this will effect also that casino and the customers.

It’s very rare to see telegram experiencing server issues - so it is not something that’s going to happen all the time and even if this happens users won’t panic as it will be general (since telegram won’t work) unlike when they have a site and it experiences server downtime.

By the way, thanks Playgram for the 5 free spins awarded to players, although I didn’t win anything significant but still I was able to spend some time and have fun without having to risk my own money.

Thanks.
I tried to use the browser app Telegram, still can't do full screen, the window of Playgram on the web version is very prone to close if you just accidentally click the background app.
It seems this is really comfortable to use on mobile, it's very easy and most of the time I use it on a mobile phone.

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I can not speak for the management but it's clear that the who idea of Playgram is to make your gambling experience more entertaining for mobile device users. According to statcounter (https://gs.statcounter.com/platform-market-share/desktop-mobile-tablet) 60.08% people user mobile devices which is the greater percentage than desktop and tablet.

Nowadays, people are using mobile devices more than ever before and developments of companies, projects switch their main focus on mobile devices. They can have both versions for computer and mobile devices but if they deploy new products, they will focus their tests firstly with mobile as it will help them to reach to more users. Computer or web version will be at lower priority in their development and tests, QA/QC procedures.

It is more true with projects with limited human resources for development of product and product testing.

          -    It's a bit like this op's casino platform gimmick is okay, and it's okay with me, and it's quite catchy among casino players, and I'm already one of those who was attracted to this your strategy. It's a good marketing strategy. Keep it up.

Try to deposit at least $50,, although I don't expect to win even if there is a free spin because I know that I usually lose when playing gambling, but who knows, I will suddenly get lucky, and even if I lose, it's okay still because the important thing is that I had fun gambling.

Yes, and that is an important factor in gambling, we all know we cannot win all the time, but if you are not staking above your means and you have fun trying out your luck, it is very cool if you ask me, and you might even get lucky and win. The best part of offers such as these is that win or lose, you might get to like the casino just by trying this out and it becomes your first choice casino afterwards.

I pointed out this topic a few weeks ago.

Playgram cannot do anything for these cases. It's using a direct telegram website for accessing their website, and there is no function for these ones on PC/Laptop device. Basically the things you are asked is always based the development/update from telegram it's self not by playgram.

There is nothing we can do, but you can always play with mobile. Based of these perspective we all know right now playgram are more comfortable for mobile player.

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There must be something wrong with the playgram bot, today they send me notifications of my old deposit and withdrawal transactions.
Any of you who have tried playgram also received the same notification of your past transactions?


You should try it if you like slot game especially the Gates of Olympus as the choosen game for the VIP FS bonus.
It may give you big win if you are lucky enough with the FS but of course you should not expect too much from the FS.

Yes - that's what I wanted to say before, Playgram seems to be more comfortable for mobile users than computer or laptop users. I've tried it on my computer and laptop - the results are the same which means Playgram is only quite comfortable on Android or mobile based on its appearance.

Anyway - this is not a big deal for me, as I prefer to use my phone rather than a laptop or computer to play slots or other bets. Using a mobile phone will certainly reduce the chances of someone around you knowing that you are gambling.  ;D

Using the telegram native desktop app the experience of the casino is pretty much the same with using the mobile app. The difference in access is felt much when you're using the web version of telegram.

I can do well with the display size which cannot be conditioned to the desktop screen, as long as the connection stays steady and I can jump in and out to other apps.

Playgram is going to launch a review campaign soon. You can try their system and leave your honest feedback. Please try to give some good suggestions so that they can improve their customer experience more.

It will be a great to have another review campaign and I’ve always been a great fan of review  campaigns because I personally believe it helps a casino make a lot of improvements on their platforms and I think the issue of big finding should be given more priority when launching the campaign, as it will help them stay on the safer side of the business without much or any system errors.
Goodluck to the project and hoping to see them running a review campaign soon.

I just tried this playgram on my telegram account, already deposited and try the first withdrawal, but it said "it may take up 24 hours for the first withdrawal, and after that withdrawals are instants", I think that's okay,and then I tried to deposit 50$ more, and then trying to withdraw for the second time, but it's not coming until now for the 2nd withdrawal. How could it be ?

Here is my wallet for the playgram on telegram : TTnYfNg3jwqBghpULkSUnKLddeRScTvDzn

and then below is the proof of withdrawal and deposits.

Image : https://ibb.co.com/wWYbCmz

Note : Anyone please give attention to my post here, i will give the next/further information regarding this problem.

1. Unfortunately, we have no idea to which address you sent the withdrawal
2. Did you contact the casino support to resolve this issue?

Hi @GofarChan, in order for you to make a withdrawal request after making a deposit, your deposit has to be wagered 1x. Good luck!

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You make a deposit on the same day with less than 15 minutes between them. I have checked the transaction history of the address you posted - it shows that you have made a deposit of 107 USDT.

Source from: https://blockchair.com/tron/address/TTnYfNg3jwqBghpULkSUnKLddeRScTvDzn

1. [54 USDT] 41f32ed1207b93b34039eb193f2d8b5122ecd23bc9484a1046736e25cfce49c0 [11 Jun 2024 13:10:39 UTC] - [Confirmations: 2,122] Successful.
2. [53 USDT] 1d86697f008ea541c4cd92739624623d605b93d581defca13fd6848fdaf91275 [11 Jun 2024 13:24:12 UTC] - [Confirmations: 1,851] Successful.

I'm just asking - How much funds did you withdraw from these two deposite?

I think you missed the screenshot shared by GofarChan. Or maybe I am missing something.

GofarChan requested two withdrawals.
The first one was requested 9 minutes after the first deposit and the amount was 64.467 USDT. The second one was requested only 5 minutes after the second deposit and the amount was 57.09 USDT.

So, how can I play ? all my money lost there ? it's kind of a new joke ?

new update : my balances back to my telegram bot [playgram]

New reply : Okay OP, I will try to do what you say, i will play 1x and try to withdraw all my balances.

You're right - I missed the image he posted, that was my mistake.

Almost all casinos expect users to bet a minimum of 1x after they make their first deposit - this is intended to prevent customers from only taking advantage of the first deposit bonus. I think in the above case GofarChan has already bet several times so the balance he withdrew is already higher than the amount he deposited - so I don't really understand what the problem is.

Luckily he's been getting guidance from the team - I hope the problem is resolved.

I already did the wager 1x,then tried the withdrawal, and it's still unprocessed until now ? come on bruh? holiday in summer time ? where is the instant withdrawals as the platform said ?

According to the screenshot you shared, the first withdrawal isn't instant and it may take up to 24 hours.
I have not tried playgram yet, but I think the 24 hour waiting time should still apply to your withdrawal, even if you meet their wagering requirements.

Okay i accepted your opinion. Just waiting for the next update from me, it's kinda like joke btw.

I have checked your casino history and so far you've used the welcome offer free spins on Gates of Olympus. These spins don't count towards the 1x wager rule of the deposit. Three hours later, you made one spin after that. The amount of that spin doesn't equal the total deposits you've made.

To make a clear example for you: If your first deposit was $50 and your second deposit was $50, and in between those deposits, you didn't play anything other than the free spins on Gates of Olympus, you've wagered a total of $0 of your original deposit amounts. To be entitled to the withdrawal, you need to bet a total of $100 in this example.

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Wow!!! That is means the guy was trying nto over smart the casino. I also suspected something because he said he deposited twice and was trying nto withdraw it but now way and I was like how can someone deposit money to a casino and wants to withdraw them back again at least you have to play a game and that was why the deposit was made. And unknown.to use he used the free spin and wanted to withdraw his money back. That is smart move but it failed him.

As OP explained, you need to wager 1x of the amount you deposited so that means you have to wager a total of $50 if the deposited amount is $50 then you can withdraw the balance. If you have used the free spins or free bonus to wager then you still won't be able to withdraw.

To make it more clear, let's say I deposit $50 and the required wager before you can withdraw is 1x of the same amount you deposited.

In order to withdraw, I have to wager or bet a total of $50 first using the $50 I deposit on the account to complete the wager requirement. Only the amount you deposited will complete the requirement and using free spins and free bonuses does not complete the wager requirement. Since your post before is that you have completed the wager then my question is, did you use the amount you deposited on your account to bet/wager or not?. I think the reason why you have to wager/bet 1x of the money you deposited on your account is to prevent someone from laundering money.

I want to report this minor bug - where the deposit notification in Telegram is late around more than 24 hours than actual the deposit is already reflected in the Playgram.
This notification is actually good to be accurate because it will help the user will know if a deposit has already been reflected and can play immediately instead of waiting for it before to is credited.

https://i.postimg.cc/zfX53NJQ/image.png

I think what you missed here is the probably statement. Perhaps you felt that after initiating your first withdrawal attempt, the second would go smoothly, of course that’s what it’s said. Well yes, the second is supposed to go smoothly and at an instant but, you’ve got to have successfully withdrawn on your first attempt first.

Your first withdrawal attempt was initiated around 20:19 on the 11th of June, which was barely minutes after you just deposited. After having it subjected to protocol, you went ahead to making yet another deposit and attempt a withdrawal with roughly 5minutes in between. Why would you do that?

Let it be known that deposits are processed faster than it actually should! What I mean is, most casinos, immediately a transaction is broadcasted on the net, it reflects in your account and can be gambled with, even before confirmation (this goes for Bitcoin deposits). This is in a way to allow you gamble on the games of your choice in due time in good faith that, the funds are on the way.
Now, it’s possible that, users of allowed to make withdrawal at an instant could go back to cancel the transaction by double spending!

This makes me wonder why would you @GofarChan want to process a withdrawal just after you had deposited!

What is mostly obtainable is that you gamble with it, at a minimum of 1.1x multiplier, win and withdraw. Perhaps the first withdrawal haven’t been subjected to a 24hrs time frame is unique to Playgram but, why this behavior @GofarChan.

Anyway, give it time, let’s say 20:20 in today’s 12th of June, time and see if your withdrawal is worked out. Hope you’ve been cognitive of the terms though, as per wagering requirements to process a withdrawal. Keep us updated!

I guess he does not really understand with the term "wager 1x" as it seems that he understands it like he need to place 1 bet only while in fact he should wager the same amount as his deposit amount.
By the way, I received free spins bonus few days ago and I'm not sure what kind of promotion was that?
Although the free spins was only 5FS worth $0.1 each but I appreciate it as maybe you give free spins based on user's activity.
My question, is it random reward or it is something that you give once your player meet specific wager activity?

After some time - how about your current withdrawal status update, have you successfully made a withdrawal?

As far as I know - the casino strictly prohibits users from utilizing the casino as a place for money laundering. Restricting you from withdrawing your deposit for a period of time is no joke - but it is useful considering that you need to do something to test some games so that your activity is not suspected of being illegal. The team has explained to you the situation - so I hope your problem can be resolved.

Thanks for the report. This has been sent forward for a further look!


I can confirm on his behalf that he managed to wager the deposits and made a successful withdrawal after :)

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Is it the same value as the VIP spins as reward for the first 3 deposit bonus?
I'm a big fan of Razor Shark game by PushGaming and played this game alot, my question is the 10 free spins collectible?
Lets say I made deposit on 5 matchday, can I play with the 50 spins or should I use the 10 free spins in the match day only?
I'm familiar enough with Razor shark, so I think if it can be played with 10 free spins only then I dont think it will give good chance to win something.

Razor Shark VIP spins are worth $0.50 and Gates of Olympus are $0.60 per spin.

These spins expire in 48 hours. Please note that to get VIP spins, you'll first have to predict the correct result of today's match pick. For example, if today you made a deposit of $25 and then in the Telegram community you predicted #SPACRO 3-0, the next day we'd credit your account with 10 VIP spins on Razor Shark. If you made a deposit and didn't predict the result correctly, then I wish you good luck at the tables and better luck on the next day's prediction :)

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The minimal deposit value is $20 to be eligible for claiming VIP spins but is there any cap on total VIP spins for one user?

I don't see you mention the cap for claimable VIP spins so is it true to say one user has no limits to claim VIP spins?

If they deposit more, they can claim more VIP spins but VIP spins are usable for each day only. If they deposit today, get and claim VIP spins for today but they don't use all of given VIP spins, tomorrow those unused VIP spins will disappear, does it work like this?

There's no cap. If you predict each daily pick correct -> You'd win the VIP spins in case you've made a deposit on that day before the match started. Unused spins will disappear in 48 hours.

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Sorry but I was also interested in that question which OcTradism asked, and I find your response a bit confusing, and I did love to understand correctly and better in order not to expect too much or something that isn't or wasn't real or true.

If we deposit $20, is the allocated free vip spins for the deposit of that amount creditted to our account automatically? Or does that only qualify us to win the free spins through/if or when we predict some sports events correctly?

Trying to get things clear because what I learn or understand OcTradism to be asking is if we can deposit $20 today and get the vip free spin, then come back tomorrow, next tomorrow, and the next, and the next again, deposit $20 and get the free spins  again, again and again respectively and continuesly without stop.
But you talked about winning the spins if a daily pick Is predicted correctly, can you please elaborate more on this?

Let me try once more :D

First participate on prediction competition on Playgram Casino Community (https://t.me/playgrammers) in Telegram. If you predict the daily match score correct you get regular free spins (no deposit required). If you made at least a $20 deposit on the match day even for fun and predicted correct -> Instead of regular spins you'll get VIP spins. The next morning I go through the results and get winners credited.

This promotion is not: Deposit $20 or more and get VIP spins. You need to predict the match score correct to get VIP spins or regular spins.

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It seems like your explanation is very clear - so I hope everyone understands how it works by now. Simply put - whoever guesses the score correctly in the daily games does not need to make a deposit to get VIP round. VIP spins will be burned or lost if not used within 48 hours.

Oh wait – has someone won something big from the VIP spins?
I hope someone is really lucky to get it and they should be happy about it.  :D

Actually you do need a deposit of at least $20 to get VIP spins.

• No deposit and correct prediction = regular spins
• $20+ deposits on that match day and correct prediction = VIP spins

Currently, there are four channels in the Playgram Casino Community Telegram group.
My question is, on which channel will we be able to see some announcements or notice about this kind of prediction game and win VIP spins or regular spins?

It's kinda confusing sometimes about a promotion itself or a prediction game like this.


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Hi, choose "Euro 2024" topic on Telegram where we'll make a post about the daily match prediction. Then just follow the steps how to participate and you're in!

In general all new things are posted under announcement topic.

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You are totally in a new world, not like your usual browser, browse one after another page. You are in Telegram interface and overtime you will get used to it.

I think the casino has caught my eyes maybe that's because I won something big on their fruit party game, well am not really a big fan of the casino games but sometimes I just try some new casino just because of their offers and promotion and although I didn't get much first deposit bonus but I enjoyed playing some of the games although the server for the casino games took alot of time to load but the casino withdrawal and deposit is very okay for me .

It must be your internet connection issue or maybe you device because I have no problem while loading the game as I said weeks ago, the game is loaded quickly (even faster when I play in web based casino).
Withdrawal can be improved since I've tried it few times and none of them was processed instantly, the quickest one was sent within 2 hours.
Promotion/reward system needs to be prioritized by playgram IMO, once they have more regular promotion, I think playgram can be the #1 telegram casino.

Promotion are an important part of marketing strategy - promotion can be considered and increased when the promotional budget is increased or there is a lot available. Especially promotion on forum like some of the predecessor casinos ^{[not Telegram casinos]} – it requires promotional budged, but it feels like it will be very worth it because this will usually get a lot of attention and new users to try this casino.