Playgram - The Telegram Casino 🟡

[Bitinity]

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What exactly are you thinking twice about bud, I myself having tried quite a number of telegram based casinos and their games, I am actually surprised that some of us still kind of act like we are skeptic about telegram casinos.
From my personal experience, I can tell for sure that telegram based casino are just as good as the web versions, they are also very safe, just as safe as the web versions as well.
And again, looking at the number of telegram casinos coming onboard almost on daily or weekly basis, I am tempted to say that soon, telegram based casinos might end up being the new trend in online casinos, I won't be surprised if this trend even starts  before we enter into the coming bull run proper.

You have mentioned yourself, I'm one those who are being skeptical about telegram (not the casino). I do have telegram account but I do not use it regularly. One other reason is that I prefer web version when it comes to gambling because I feel it better than mobile application based. All in all, it is about preferences so no matter how good this casino is but if I'm still not able to enjoy gambling through telegram, I will still think twice to try it . Hopefully they will have the web version later.

[Playgram.io]

Talking about this issue of people's preferences when using casinos, the times I've looked on this forum at the casino ann thread and on casino review sites, it seems to me that Telegram casinos haven't been very successful, I could be wrong. But let's look at this forum, how many Telegram casinos have been operating and running a signature campaign for many months? I have hardly seen any Telegram casino running a signature campaign lasting at least 6 months. This can be interpreted that Telegram casinos are mostly low-budget casinos, which is why they cannot run a signature campaign for a long time.

Therefore, big players will hardly use Telegram casinos, even small players are scared. It is true that many new sites also have low budgets but most of them also turn out to be failures. So I ask you: will your casino run a signature campaign? It's true that running a signature campaign doesn't guarantee clients, I'm also not getting into the question of whether it would bring in many clients or not. When I ask about running a signature campaign and even so I can have an idea of what bankroll level your casino has, a casino with a high bankroll level can spend a lot of money on marketing campaigns, but like I said, most telegram casinos , seems to have been created by people with a very low level of bankroll who don't even have marketing funds

Hey there! Telegram casinos started to pop up about a year ago so it's a bit tough to compare if any brand has run a signature campaign for 6 months already, but I do get your point.

The reason why I think Telegram casinos haven't been too active on Bitcointalk is that even though this forum is a great place to talk with fellow crypto enthusiasts and learn about new products, so is Telegram itself. Therefore putting resources there isn't a bad bet either

To get back to your question: We're having internal discussion about running a signature campaign and we have a line of people waiting in PMs on who would be chosen to run it. Decision on the campaign will be made soon

Play responsibly,
Casino Manager
Playgram

[CryptSafe]

8. Deposit of Funds
8.1. All deposits should be made from an account or payment system or credit card that is registered in your own name, and any deposits made in any other currency will be converted using the daily exchange rate obtained from oanda.com, or at our own bank's or our payment processor’s prevailing rate of exchange following which your Account will be deposited accordingly. Note that some payment systems may apply additional currency exchange fees which will be deducted from the sum of your deposit


9.4. We reserve the right to request photo ID, address confirmation or perform additional verification procedures (request your selfie, arrange a verification call etc.) for the purpose of identity verification prior to granting any withdrawals from your Account. We also reserve our rights to perform identity verification at any time during the lifetime of your relationship with us.

OP I am meant to understand that telegram is an anonymous platform and possibly you chose there for that purpose. Now why do you want players to send or make payment with account that bears their names with cards.  How about if a player deposits from their wallets with no name and means of identity, would you deny them of deposit? And another thing I saw is that you did not mention KYC but you stated in one of the paragraph that you can request for KYC if the needs arises. Would it not have been better you stated it clear for all to see that you have a KYC policy so that nobody feels tricked after playing and wanting to withdraw and you request for KYC.

9.5. All withdrawals must be made to the original debit, credit card, bank account, method of payment used to make the payment to your Account. We may, and always at our own discretion, allow you to withdraw to a payment method from which your original deposit did not originate. This will always be subject to additional security checks.

What are the security checks put in place for this exercise when such scenario comes up. Can you state them here so that everyone can see it and possibly make suggestions on how to improve on it to serve your better.

[notblox1]

Our team is more than happy to answer any questions, hear feedback or ideas in general you have about Playgram Telegram casino! It might just be that your idea will be chosen for next

Welcome to bitcointalk forum!
I opened Playgram casino in telegram and I it all worked great, I dont see any registration or login form, that is very nice and fast way to play games.
But is someone going to ask me for KYC verification in future for withdrawing or any other reasons, and how will that work?

[Playgram.io]

8. Deposit of Funds
8.1. All deposits should be made from an account or payment system or credit card that is registered in your own name, and any deposits made in any other currency will be converted using the daily exchange rate obtained from oanda.com, or at our own bank's or our payment processor’s prevailing rate of exchange following which your Account will be deposited accordingly. Note that some payment systems may apply additional currency exchange fees which will be deducted from the sum of your deposit


9.4. We reserve the right to request photo ID, address confirmation or perform additional verification procedures (request your selfie, arrange a verification call etc.) for the purpose of identity verification prior to granting any withdrawals from your Account. We also reserve our rights to perform identity verification at any time during the lifetime of your relationship with us.

OP I am meant to understand that telegram is an anonymous platform and possibly you chose there for that purpose. Now why do you want players to send or make payment with account that bears their names with cards.  How about if a player deposits from their wallets with no name and means of identity, would you deny them of deposit? And another thing I saw is that you did not mention KYC but you stated in one of the paragraph that you can request for KYC if the needs arises. Would it not have been better you stated it clear for all to see that you have a KYC policy so that nobody feels tricked after playing and wanting to withdraw and you request for KYC.

9.5. All withdrawals must be made to the original debit, credit card, bank account, method of payment used to make the payment to your Account. We may, and always at our own discretion, allow you to withdraw to a payment method from which your original deposit did not originate. This will always be subject to additional security checks.

What are the security checks put in place for this exercise when such scenario comes up. Can you state them here so that everyone can see it and possibly make suggestions on how to improve on it to serve your better.

Hey! We'd love it if everyone would own crypto or would want to gamble with it. Unfortunately that's not the case yet, which is why we also offer the option to buy crypto by using a card for example. This service is provided by a 3rd party and as explained on earlier post, they might have separate verification similar to crypto exchanges.

Regarding denying a crypto deposit, we don't have any KYC procedures before making a crypto deposit and therefore we wouldn't be be able to deny such if customer is able to make a deposit. KYC itself is not really our unique selling points towards players and us and many crypto casinos being licensed, there's a possibility that KYC procedures could be triggered based on player actions whether it's buying crypto or trying to fraud us and so on.

This is what we wrote earlier about the KYC procedures:

When it comes to KYC procedures. It can be triggered for example based on which deposit method is being used: Choose between Crypto or Buy Crypto. The latter option uses a third-party on-ramp service, and we have no control over whether they enforce KYC, similar to many crypto exchanges.

Then where KYC procedures are mostly used is, as unfortunate as it is: To prevent fraudulent activity. Whether it's multi-accounting, bonus abuse, money laundering or taking over someones account etc.

About the additional security checks. It really depends on case by case basis what the check would be whether it's a fraud or a legit player. I cannot unfortunately go any more deeper on that.

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Welcome to bitcointalk forum!
I opened Playgram casino in telegram and I it all worked great, I dont see any registration or login form, that is very nice and fast way to play games.
But is someone going to ask me for KYC verification in future for withdrawing or any other reasons, and how will that work?

Thank you! One click registration is quite magical I think the reply to CryptSafe on this post explains the basic of KYC procedures for you as well.

Play responsibly,
Casino Manager
Playgram

[Playgram.io]

Hey guys!

Over the weekend I found this thread about Telegram casinos in the Gambling discussion board and left a comment on it. Take a cup of coffee and have read through the whole thread. What I noticed is that people tend to have quite strong opinions about Telegram as a platform, a bit unexpected I'd say

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Casino Manager
Playgram

[panjul07]

Each VIP spin is valued at $0.60

This offer is quite tempting and something not to be ignored for those like to play Gates of Olympus especially there is no wagering requirement for the winning.
I'll try it soon, maybe later today and hopefully I can win nice amount from the VIP spins and I can share it here.
Btw why dont you accept TRX? One more question, should the deposit amount be exact $50 or it can be a bit more like $51?

[Playgram.io]

Each VIP spin is valued at $0.60

This offer is quite tempting and something not to be ignored for those like to play Gates of Olympus especially there is no wagering requirement for the winning.
I'll try it soon, maybe later today and hopefully I can win nice amount from the VIP spins and I can share it here.
Btw why dont you accept TRX? One more question, should the deposit amount be exact $50 or it can be a bit more like $51?

Hi @panjul07!

The offer indeed is tempting The minimum deposit to receive VIP spins is $50 so anything above works as well.

About TRX, I'm glad you mentioned it as we do accept it, but it's missing on the front page. When you go to Wallet and open the dropdown menu you can find TRX Meanwhile I'll tell our developers to add the TRX icon back to front page.

Play responsibly,
Casino Manager
Playgram

[ryzaadit]

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Sorry for asking this.

However, do you have some details about the promotion? I mean, like fully detailed. Just want to check in case the deposit we're made needed to passed wagering, or perhaps just 1x deposit waggering and then we can withdraw our 50$.

Just curious, thanks.

[Playgram.io]

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Sorry for asking this.

However, do you have some details about the promotion? I mean, like fully detailed. Just want to check in case the deposit we're made needed to passed wagering, or perhaps just 1x deposit waggering and then we can withdraw our 50$.

Just curious, thanks.

Questions are always welcome! Any deposit made should be wagered 1x before a withdrawal request can be made.

From T&C

9.2. Any crypto deposit has to be wagered 1 time. In case several deposits were made with no gaming activity, player has to wager the total amount of these deposits prior to withdrawal.

Play responsibly,
Casino Manager
Playgram

[bSpend]

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Sorry for asking this.

However, do you have some details about the promotion? I mean, like fully detailed. Just want to check in case the deposit we're made needed to passed wagering, or perhaps just 1x deposit waggering and then we can withdraw our 50$.

Just curious, thanks.

Questions are always welcome! Any deposit made should be wagered 1x before a withdrawal request can be made.

From T&C

9.2. Any crypto deposit has to be wagered 1 time. In case several deposits were made with no gaming activity, player has to wager the total amount of these deposits prior to withdrawal.

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Happy with the clarity and the transparency so far, and needless say that your activeness on the forum  and promptness in answering questions here is super encouraging, I love it and can only advice you keep it up.

Maybe this have been suggested before, but I will again suggest it and maybe you guys reconsider making a decision about this if you havent, it's about running an advertisement campaign on this forum, I honestly believe running an advertisement campaign will create more awareness of this casino, which also may bring about more users as well.
Anyways, just think about it.

[ryzaadit]

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Thank you. So, just need to finish 1x wagering deposit.

Yes, I know these rules. It's most common rules in casino for deposit wagering to avoid money laundry, just want to make sure my deposit is not getting any additional waggering due taken the promotion.

Thanks for the response.

[PVTE93]

My account have problem
I cant creat transtaction withdrawal
Please help me
https://imgur.com/cPQWN6P

[Playgram.io]

My account have problem
I cant creat transtaction withdrawal
Please help me
https://imgur.com/cPQWN6P

Hey PVTE93! We're sorry for the inconvenience. It appears there was a minor technical issue on our end and I've been informed that it has now been resolved. Our support team should be in touch soon if they haven’t already responded.

Play responsibly,
Casino Manager
Playgram

[PVTE93]

My account have problem
I cant creat transtaction withdrawal
Please help me
https://imgur.com/cPQWN6P

Hey PVTE93! We're sorry for the inconvenience. It appears there was a minor technical issue on our end and I've been informed that it has now been resolved. Our support team should be in touch soon if they haven’t already responded.

Play responsibly,
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it worked. Today is my lucky day. Thank you very much

[AB de Royse777]

What I noticed is that people tend to have quite strong opinions about Telegram as a platform, a bit unexpected I'd say

Telegram is a platform that provides different opportunities. Bad people use telegram to scam others easily and for them Telegram is an easy platform to hide their trace because of the options to change username, creating groups and things. Not long ago a scammer, I suspect a group targeted me. They were so perfect that even after having enormous experience with Telegram I got confused and believed that it's my client.

They approached me in different layers. One account "impersonated me" on my Telegram group, another account was warning me ("impersonating a potential client") about that impersonate account. Then "the impersonate potential client" continued relationship with me and he introduced another impersonate account as his team member.

The first impersonate person then "impersonate my former client". Took 0.019xx BTC in two transactions. Then offered me business and wanted to take more. I was even ready to give him 0.1 BTC (to help him with his bad situation) until I strongly started to investigate and found it's the same account that impersonate me on my Telegram group.

All these time the impersonating potential client was with me (more than two days). His "assistant" agreed to launch a signature campaign under my management service. Agreed to send $6000 upfront to start the campaign. Then the assistant forwarded the payment request to her boss (the impersonate potential client). He then was asking me to send $120 fees to move the fund. When he gave me the ERC20 address I found the address has no balance. Then I started to investigate the the potential impersonate client and found out it's the same person who was:
1. First impersonate me on my telegram group
2. Warned me about the person who was impersonating me on my telegram group.
3. Impersonate my former client and took 0.019xx btc
4. Him as the potential impersonating client.
5. Him also as his assistant.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5494985.0, I did not continue discussion on that topic anymore though

Scammers Telegram link:
Id: 6795083195
First: Lemon

BTW this is the Fake guy who is impersonating you(the impersonating potential client):
Id: 6931445621
First: Eman
Lang: en

This is the fake Emily (I guess another ID of the fake guy as his assistant )
Id: 7059149814
First:

Five different telegram accounts with more than five Telegram groups. I think for one person it's very hard to maintain the number of accounts and memorize which account had which interaction of the character. There are scammer groups in telegram - not a single guy. There are many groups like them.

But does it make Telegram a bad place? I don't think it does. Telegram is a platform. It's up to the users who are using it. Some will always use it in bad way.

[panjul07]

This offer is quite tempting and something not to be ignored for those like to play Gates of Olympus especially there is no wagering requirement for the winning.
I'll try it soon, maybe later today and hopefully I can win nice amount from the VIP spins and I can share it here.
Btw why dont you accept TRX? One more question, should the deposit amount be exact $50 or it can be a bit more like $51?

Hi @panjul07!

The offer indeed is tempting The minimum deposit to receive VIP spins is $50 so anything above works as well.

About TRX, I'm glad you mentioned it as we do accept it, but it's missing on the front page. When you go to Wallet and open the dropdown menu you can find TRX Meanwhile I'll tell our developers to add the TRX icon back to front page.

I tried it hours ago but I was not lucky enough with the 25FS since I won less than 5EUR from the free spins.

Played with my deposit + the winning from the fs, almost managed to double it before lost it all eventually. LOL
Frankly speaking this is the first time I play slot game through telegram and I can say that it is a nice experience.
Games can be loaded quickly and no significant issue when I played it hours ago.
Will try again for the 2nd deposit later, hope to get better luck on my 2nd try.

[AB de Royse777]

Played with my deposit + the winning from the fs, almost managed to double it before lost it all eventually. LOL

It happens for all :-D

Frankly speaking this is the first time I play slot game through telegram and I can say that it is a nice experience.

I am trying on my mobile device and for me it's first time too. The problem for me is my Telegram is on Orbot and it feels like taking years to load the interface. Hopefully there will be some demo games to check before checking the system with real money.

[Fivestar4everMVP]

I tried it hours ago but I was not lucky enough with the 25FS since I won less than 5EUR from the free spins.

Played with my deposit + the winning from the fs, almost managed to double it before lost it all eventually. LOL
Frankly speaking this is the first time I play slot game through telegram and I can say that it is a nice experience.
Games can be loaded quickly and no significant issue when I played it hours ago.
Will try again for the 2nd deposit later, hope to get better luck on my 2nd try.

Well, first of all, congratulations on your win, though it's not large but then, still something that is better than nothing.. Oh, but wait, did you say you later lost it all back to the casino?  , that is the dark side of slot games actually.

I also played for the very first time, slot game on a telegram casino known as whale, the experience was super amazing, I won about 5 Ton coin from my deposit of 0.2 ton coin, I stopped playing after this winning because I was afraid that I would lose it all back.
I went back to the casino the next day, played the same game and lost 3 Ton coin out of the 5 I won the previous day, at a point, I knew that if I continue to play, I will lose it all, I decide to withdraw my remaining balance when it fell a little below 2 ton.

Overall, telegram casinos are really good and also very convenient, I feel that in the near future, telegram casinos will make wave in the online gambling market, they are developing and becoming popular really fast.

[ryzaadit]

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Yap, I must agree on the load.

IMO, Playgram is more comfortable and suitable for accessing using a Mobile/Smartphone. I tried to to access with (Laptop) and yes we can access them via (Laptop/Komputer) the problem for Telegram Redirect, we don't have maximize feature.

Meaning, you play the game with minimize with the size of smarphone/mobile size. ~xd