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Who is the right guy to vote if it all depends on their stance on Bitcoin. Can we carefully read in-between the lines?

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They are both indirectly not in support of bitcoin. Even if Trump is speaking positively about bitcoin now, that does not mean that he has good intentions for the technology; it's all about standing with something that can help his political agenda. That's all I see here.
 
So if you are casting your vote, it should be based on what you think the person can be able to do to help the country achieve more height and the citizen be more comfortable, not what they promised to do for bitcoin, which I doubt they will even keep their word once they achieve that political office. 
 
Governments hate privacy and anonymity, so anyone standing and representing a government office, especially that of the US, can hardly stand fully with Bitcoin.

 For Biden, he has been vocal about his stance on Bitcoin and that hasn't shifted but for Trump's case, we see that he's now pro Bitcoin in recent times because not only is it lucrative but it can also swing so many supporters his way as he bids for another shot at being president of the US. If you ask me, I'd say Biden really hates Bitcoin and won't be seen associating or buying it, whereas Trump can be said to be a business man who looks to thr currency that is holdinguch sway in the market. It's safe to call him an opportunist as well.
You can see in his speech that he promised to make sure Bitcoin and other cryptocurrencies are given free rein when he becomes president, promised to free Ross Ulbricht and also free Julian Assange.
As a crypto enthusiast, if you hear all these words, won't you be moved to cast your vote for him? But the question there will be; can he pull through with these words or will they just be that? Words.
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Bitcoin went up 500% under president Biden.

Trump promises massive changes to the US economy:

1. He will deport 5% of the US workforce, leading to massive labor shortages and shortfalls for things like Social Security that depends on younger workers.

2. He will make abortion illegal nationwide, which will require the largest new law enforcement effort in the US since the Prohibition (which begat the FBI, let us not forget). Such a crackdown is going to necessarily need to come after things like Bitcoin since it can be used to pay for illegal abortions.

3. He will surely manipulate the market for his own purposes, making himself and family billions of dollars, but at the expense of ordinary investors. (Trump could effectively make Bitcoin illegal with a simple order, and force Americans to replace Bitcoin with TrumpCoin, since the price into the toilet).

The safest vote, if you value your Bitcoin, is to stick with the president who saw the price appreciate by 500%.

 

If they were actually the ones who made the tweets,

Biden used the definite statement that he will "never," while Trump just said he is not a fan. Someone who is not a fan can later change their opinions and views on something when they get to understand that thing and then like it.

With "never," you have likely closed any chance to even change your mind, so I'd say Biden has a stronger negative view about bitcoin than Trump has.

None, if you want to vote for Bitcoin, it's better to vote this guy. AFAIK he haven't talk anything bad about Bitcoin, although politician is always a politician, you can't really trust anything come from their mouths. If I could say, Trump will 100% win the election since he's always stand out than the other candidates.

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These tweets are to prevent someone from getting scammed by impersonator accounts. Some time back there was a hack that allowed scammers to take over accounts of big names and use them to ask for crypto and a lot many people lost money like that before it was patched.

What some president thinks about should not be our worry, because bitcoin is decentralized. There is election campaigns going on in US and a lot of things will get talked about that we will like or not like.

There is no reading between the lines here, because in reality you have to buy bitcoin yourself, they will not make it easier for you.

However if US stance over crypto becomes lax, we can expect other countries to follow, which might have a impact.

Trump may have shifted his stance and made some concrete statements in support of Bitcoin. That doesn't make things easy for him. It's a tough job being the president of the United States and still supporting Bitcoin because BTC's dominance in the financial sector could whittle down the influence of the USD. What's exciting about Trump is his shifting stance towards crypto. What's uncertain about him is that he may yet shift again after being elected and faced with the choice of supporting either the USD against BTC or letting BTC thrive at the expense of the USD. With countries like China, India, Russia, South Africa, and Iran seeking an opportunity to drop the USD as a reserve currency, it's the wrong time for a US president to fully back BTC.

The situation is evolving with time and development. Trump is known for adapting his stance when he deems it appropriate. Previously, he opposed Bitcoin before the approval of ETFs and regulatory involvement, but his position has since changed. As I mentioned earlier on many threads that, President Biden has already facilitated the path for Bitcoin by not standing in the way of the approval process for Bitcoin ETFs, recognizing that his involvement could potentially complicate matters. Although Biden has not fully endorsed Bitcoin, there has been a noticeable easing.

Trump, on the other hand, is strategically getting support from various voter groups. He is a clever individual who understands how to attract attention. As crypto enthusiasts, we immerse ourselves in the world of cryptocurrency. To understand how he is appealing to other sectors, one should look for his statements in those fields, which often differ from his previous statements. Ultimately, this is all part of political methods. The crucial question remains whether he will fulfill his promises.

You are talking about nearly four years that last through 2 market cycles, not only one market cycle. So the high ROI like 500% is explainable but it is not because of Biden.

If you want to compare like this, let's check ROI of Bitcoin farther in the past like another previous 4-year, under Trump.
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The price of Bitcoin since December 2016 to December 2020 is from $900 to more than $20,000, so what is the ROI here?
Is it better than ROI under Biden?

I don't support anyone, Biden or Trump, just share the figure to debunk the non-sense saying from you.

Bitcoin went up 500% under president Biden. That statement is true. Please check your numbers before calling somebody else names like that.

You keep manipulating people into believing Biden did miracles to Bitcoin.

Bitcoin went up over 3000% under president Trump.

Last time, you said you only said this about Biden because the Regulations did not negatively affect the Price of Bitcoin.  I suppose this means the Regulations during the Presidency of Trump helped Bitcoin even more, considering the numbers Bitcoin made during that time?

You don't need to lay emphasis on which of them hate it, rather which of them would help the Technology in the positive direction.

Donald Trump might not be a fan, but from his write-up I believe what he meant is running Bitcoin under a well regulated body in other to avoid criminal and illegal activities because of Bitcoin usage.

In essence both of them are standing on the ground of neutrality, except policies implemented says otherwise.

I believe some folks are so propagandized, they will never be able to see truth. The saddest part is they really think they’re doing the right thing! Sad indeed. Do your own homework! The information is out there.

If you look more closely on the statement dates, they are all what have been mentioned in the past years now close to give years ago, which also tells that maybe by then, they were not interested in it and doesn't have much idea about what bitcoin could turn in the future as now what they have to require for in other for them to gain the public interest of all bitcoin enthusiast and investors in voting for them, that is why it is more difficult for us now to detect whether all these they were all saying are true or not concerning bitcoin or they are only trying to achieve their own personal agenda in politics playing games with bitcoiners.

I would say no one should be believe when it comes to crypto. There are bigger issues for them to handle and your voting should not be based on just cryptocurrency.

Politicians can make thousands of promises about anything and everything under the sun. But they may not fulfill such promises after the election. We have many such examples. So focus on the bigger picture while voting.

A politician can promise to make everybody rich if he is elected. The problem is that you cannot hold them responsible for the promise they made doing politicking. They will give you many reasons why they might not fulfill the election promises. Both Trump and Biden have nothing to lose if they decide not to fulfill their campaign promises since both of them might never seek re-election if they win or lose.
 

There are so many issues that voters should consider besides favorable Bitcoin laws. What is the candidate's plan for the economy, immigration, foreign policies, military spending, etc is also important. Crypto-friendly Americans shouldn't consider just Trump's crypto manifesto.
 

No politician or government will ever support decentralization. They will always want to monitor and control the financial dealings of their citizens.

Exactly. This coming US election is almost entirely about one thing, which is:


* Abortion stays legal = vote for Biden

* Abortion is criminalized across the USA = vote for Trump


Everything else will just be an excuse for most people. Compared to this issue (for either side, given how polarizing this issue is), nothing else really matters.

I still remember statements about Bitcoin in different years but I can't show the source.
2021 stated that if Bitcoin is a scam, the government must regulate it. In 2024, a statement emerged that the remaining Bitcoin that had not been circulated had to be mined.
Now, they continue to mention positive things about Bitcoin in every political campaign space.
I don't really believe what politicians say.

If Trump has come out in support of bitcoin, I'm not sure how that makes him not in support of it?  Now if you asked me do I think that Donald Trump truly understands bitcoin and fully supports it do to the technological advances it's brought to our world, then I would say no as I don't believe either one of these guys has any clue how bitcoin actually works, what the blockchain is or anything of that nature.

It's sad he doesn't stand a chance. This guy would be the best president in my opinion.

When it comes to Biden vs Trump I've said it again and again. They're both old, but Biden is geriatric. He should be laying on a beach somewhere with a drink in his hand, telling stories to grandchildren, not trying to be a leader of a country, when he needs to be lead off the stage every single time he speaks.

It's sad, but they will both love bitcoin if it buys them votes.

You're a liar. The Supreme Court has already ruled it is a State's Rights issue, exactly as it should be. Do you liars ever get tired of lying?!

What are you talking about? There are already federal abortion laws on the books, and the 2025 project is very clear that a national ban is the goal. And Congress doesn't even need to approve if Trump simply fails to defend the ridiculous lawsuits against the abortion pill.

The Supreme Court's decision made it clear that any abortion ban could be state or federal.

After many decades of calling abortion "baby murder" in order to gin up the voting base, Republicans now have to pay for this rhetoric: they are the party of the abortion ban, and there's no getting away from that.

Biden says negative things about Bitcoin despite SEC accepting Spot Bitcoin ETFs already. I'm not from the US, but who in the hell wants a president that don't even know where to go down after a speech? Who wants a president that already has a dementia? Who wants a president who called President Zelensky as President Putin? I'm not from US, but I will not vote for him. As for Biden's stance with crypto, I believe he don't even know what he said about crypto in the past because he forgot it already. :D

I don't want Trump using Bitcoin to increase his popularity, but it is what it is, and he can use it anytime he wants to. Maybe his stance with regards to Bitcoin has changed already because of the acceptance of a Spot Bitcoin ETF, but who knows. This stance of him with regards to cryptocurrency and Bitcoin might change once he becomes a president again.

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I believe Biden hate Bitcoin more than Trump because Trump is a businessman and maybe he sees the advantage of Bitcoin already. Biden might not even know the term "Bitcoin" anymore. If only I will vote based on how they support Bitcoin, I'll go for Trump.

That's exactly my point. You can't come out boldly, declaring big things that will favor Bitcoin but not the Dollar and not expect to be met with opposition in the long run and I don't see Donald Trump like the type of man to not cave under pressure. As it is, he's just using the fact that he accepts Bitcoin in his campaigns and also championing for it as a front; wait till he gets what he wants if it will still be the same thing.
 If he can speak ill of Bitcoin in 2019, I don't see why he can't do it again six years later.

Thank you for bringing this out, I've never trusted Trump and I've been looking for a quote where Trump has condemned crypto in the past. The guy is only desperate to support cryptocurrency now for his campaigns due to the popularity of the industry. I only wonder why most people will fall for it, he has never been known for truth.

As for your question, I don't think any of them hate cryptocurrency, they do not just buy the idea of it and it is understandable. We should all respect their way of life on this, it's not everybody that will love crypto, especially with the way it is decentralised and can harbour a lot of criminality.

No one is the right guy for the crypto, both are equally bad. Trump mentions Bitcoin lately because he wants to get more votes from people who support cryptocurrencies but at the same time his promises are terrible for real crypto enthusiasts and everything he said about Bitcoin is the opposite of what Bitcoin does and what Bitcoin community aims.
He wants to make Bitcoin centralized, Made in USA. This tells everything.

Are you kidding? Yeah, Bitcoin went up 500% under President Biden this just happened automatically without his influence. Bitcoin didn't rise because of President Joe Biden, Bitcoin went up because of ETF approval and Bitcoin halving. Bitcoin would go up the same if Trump was a president today, this has nothing to do with Joe Biden.

It's not what Biden did, it's what he didn't do. He left the market alone and the price soared. Trump promises massive changes to the US economy and society. That is what he is running on: change.

A vote for Biden is a vote to keep things going great like they have been.

Neither because "all doesn't depend on Bitcoin". You are living in a society with countless major issues like any other society and a president has to have some plans for each and every one of them and Bitcoin is not among the top 100. Not to mention what a politician says has absolutely no value, what they do does.

Neither one of these two are capable of addressing any of those issues. One is too old to have the mental capacity to work, the other one is almost as old but not as senile but he is too radical which is far worse.
That means the choice is between bad and worse, so either the choices aka the candidates have to change (assuming there is any democracy left in America) or you go with the bad choice instead of the worse and avoid the radical.

From the standpoint of bitcoiner, I wouldn't vote for any of them. Thank heavens, I don’t have this dilemma, because I am not a resident of their country. :)

Once these two candidates suddenly became supporters of bitcoin, everyone forgot what they had said about bitcoin before. Thank you for reminding of this. Politics has always been a dirty business, in which neither honesty nor decency is inherent. Politicians quickly forget words spoken before (promises). I wouldn’t be surprised if all this feigned BTC-positivity will change the vector of development to the position of BTC-opponents after being elected president. It is naive to expect the state machine to approve and accept a system (bitcoin) created as an alternative and, in fact, conflicting with the traditional financial system.

Of course, we need to look at the big picture before deciding who to vote for, but we're on the bitcoin forum and we are all crypto investors. Therefore, it is understandable that people tend to pay more attention to candidates with a pro-cryptocurrency stance. Many people consider bitcoin and cryptocurrency to be a part of their lives and future, so there is nothing wrong with them relying on this factor to vote for candidates.

There is no guarantee that they will deliver on their promises when elected, but I would rather trust someone who makes promises than support someone who goes public and introduces a series of crypto crackdown regulations.

Hate is a strong word. I think both are just very old and thus not in the pro-Bitcoin demographic. That's simply because for the vast majority of their lives, Bitcoin did not exist, and they've obtained their wealth within the traditional economy. Then there's also an issue of Trump being very 'America first', and that entails the USD first. He wants a strong USD, so any other currency is a rival. But he's also shifting policies to gain wider support, becoming more open to the idea of Bitcoin. Meanwhile, Biden is honestly doing I don't know what because he seems unfit to run for presidency and yet does not want to give his party a chance with a different candidate.

Trump does like it, Biden probably has no idea about it. That's the difference between them, I do not think that either hates it and sometimes you do not have to hate something. I believe that Trump likes it, which means that he is not a person who would hate something that benefits him, so he is not a hater and he will do even more than what he has done so far to make more money from crypto, it is going to definitely help with all of it. However, we need to remember that it is not an easy choice, we need to make sure that we are going to end up with a good return one way or another, should be a good deal without a doubt.

I think the best way to go right now would be just focusing on how we could provide some stuff, it is not going to be all that complicated, it is going to end up with Biden not liking as the closest.

However, in that case I do not think that Biden doesn't dislike it neither, he probably has no clue, dude probably doesn't know where he is most of the time and thinking that he is going to hate something he doesn't even understand? I do not think so. This is why we need to realize that life isn't always all that fair, but we could probably do a better job over time than these two, we just need to wait four more years until they are both gone.

At the end of the day, they're both politicians and would like to get the sentiment of the people that are in Bitcoin.

Trump can say that he's not really into Bitcoin and doesn't like it because of its volatility. Both have generic thoughts about Bitcoin and that were their former.

Now that with the upcoming months, it's important for them to address each issue that should be in favor of them from the people that have read their thoughts oppositely.

The truth is that politicians can't be trusted, they can say something today and the next time they say something different again. His concern about bitcoin right now may not be genuine and we can't really tell if his support for bitcoin is real or not, let me just accept that trump was ignorant about bitcoin in the past but right now maybe he might have gotten a good understanding about bitcoin.
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I think vote should be based on capacity,  looking at these contestant and go for the person that has the citizens at hearts.   If we just follow politicians on what they say when elections are by the corners we may end up choosing the wrong leader.  If I'm voting I'll go for the person I know that can make good impact to the life of the people.

This is emphatic, expressing total lack of interest and no room to have a rethink about it. Which means, if he has an option to stop bitcoin, he will.


This is a statement of fact or true. All Trump said about cryptocurrency above is true.

• Not a legal tender (save for El Salvador)
• Highly volatile
• If unregulated, it can facilitate illegal deals.

Trump was more open and showed that he knows about cryptocurrency than Biden.

So it becomes increasingly clear who will actually be part of crypto or Bitcoin and who really doesn't know what Bitcoin is and what is in it.

Trump seems more realistic and reveals facts that he should have said,
but certainly does not rule out the possibility of fully supporting him someday.

When the current election is getting hotter and there is a shooting against Trump,
this makes the attention of the American people focused on Trump and Biden helpless.

Obviously, Trump is more of that man who is willing to dive into new ideas, learn new things and diversify. I knew much about him during his election with Hillary. He is bold and audacious. He is able to say big things and find a way to accomplish them among all odds. I learnt that he said something nice about cryptocurrency recently, but many people understood that it was mere pre-election promises. But I have known him as someone who is able to stand and defend his statement anytime.

When it comes to crypto talk of POTUS, I would prefer to have Joe Biden who seems to be more neutral figure in influencing the crypto landscape than have Trump in the driving seat that will see volatility on the raise as his always speculating on anything and everything and an asset such as Bitcoin doesn't need uncertainty at the moment!!!

And besides, Trump coming back will not only affect Crypto but fiat will be impacted with his usual tweets, and conferences... trading is about to get one hell of a bumpy ride!!

I don't care about politicians but it seems their interests in Bitcoin is really playing big impact on it. Like when Trump announced his Vice yesterday, Bitcoin price shoot up because the vice is a Bitcoin maximalist as they say but here are the things I want to say a out Biden and Trump and Bitcoin.

When Trump was in office, he said many bad things about Bitcoin, worst than what Biden is trying to with the crypto regulations they are trying to pass so badly, says a lot of things that crash the Bitcoin market but after he lost the office, he saw the big impact on the people, minted some NFTs on ethereum and now he is calling a big shot to give Bitcoin  a second chance. I hope he doesn't change when he get to the office.

Biden is just trying to be neutral and sometimes do politics and right now, he doesn't know anything than the regulations they are trying to pass but my question is wouldn't Trump do the same when he get to the office, he doesn't rule the US alone and the number of people that does crypto aren't big than the half population of the entire US. I just think we have to wait to see how it will turn out later after the election.

no one hates bitcoin or loves bitcoin more, both move based on their own interests and their party. if you say that trump is quite pro bitcoin, then you should see his statement on bitcoin when he was president, you can see how what he says now is the opposite of what he said before, and now it makes him only use pro-bitcoin for his own interests. and if you say that biden is not pro bitcoin, then you should see how the bitcoin market is currently growing in the us and how bitcoin regulations there are being improved.

so about bitcoin, these two candidates are actually the same, there is no guarantee that trump or biden can make bitcoin better there and not get discrimination.

Both these guys are politicians and would most likely do or say what would give them votes at them time. At the time of writing making that post, it might most likely be that saying they're against Bitcoin would have given them more votes or more support, but right now their stance might have changed as we can see with Trump. This doesn't mean they really care about bitcoin, they only truly care about the votes.
I honestly don't care about politicians views on things like this even though they have the power to influence it one way or the other. I believe that whatever they say is for their own interests or interests of their party.
Nether of them can stop bitcoin though. They can only make stricter regulations, but they can't stop it .

I will vote for Donald Trump as a bitcoin enthusiast and want bitcoin to be at least be more legal and a lawful asset to be used in my country when he comes on seat. Not expecting much though, but given it a trial is now a bad idea at all.


The example you point out from those two statements is clearly how every logical person will think when they analyse this statements. They are both politicians, so I won’t take any of their positive thought about bitcoin very serious becaus they can do or say anything in order to their way into that seat. Trump have always been a critics of bitcoin before now, why the sudden change and love for bitcoin when he’s about to contest for presidency again? Don’t you think the massive surge in bitcoin from that time till now made him have a way to lure bitcoin lover to vote him in the upcoming elections too? Maybe I might be thinking too deeply or out of context, but politicians are not to be trusted 100% in my opinion.

At the end of the day, this election is about change.

If you want to stick with the situation that saw Bitcoin go up 500% under president Biden, or do you want to take your changes with radical changes?

Do you want abortion to stay legal in the United States as it has been, or do you want it to be illegal?

People can have different answers to those questions above, but that's what this election boils down to.

I think neither presidential candidate really cares about Bitcoin. What they care about is getting more voters. I think a lot of people from the Bitcoin community like Trump because he made himself seem very pro-Bitcoin. They hope he will do good things for Bitcoin which will make the price go up.

I agree, neither of them likes bitcoin or cryptocurrency at all, the purpose of everything they do and promise is just because they want us to vote for them. But at least former President Trump has publicly supported bitcoin, and if he is elected and fulfills his promises, we will have a chance to develop further. Meanwhile, with the current administration, they are even trying to raise taxes and impose more regulations to slow our growth. So, it is not surprising that more crypto investors expressed support for candidate Trump than the current administration.

Let inform you theirs no government that is in support of bitcoin, but individually they might have passions on bitcoin but one or two things will make them not speak out when their assume powers, many countries criticism cryptocurrency mostly Bitcoin and that is not what we will use to campaign against them, so what I really want us to know is that Biden can state what's good about bitcoin why it motive to do so is because they wants people to vote them in office and also Donald Trump maybe speaking good about bitcoin and it's possible that if he assumed office it will not valid bitcoin, so politicians is not something you will give 80% trust.

We can't really know exactly what the two of them are thinking about bitcoin, but you can't take someone's past and judge their present. Everyone has the right and can change their views and that has happened to many people, not just Trump. Additionally, I don't think Biden is taking a fair stance on crypto by trying to increase taxes on miners to 30%, condoning the SEC's aggressive actions against a series of exchanges and crypto companies as well as trying to shut down mixers...If Biden continues to serve as president in the next term, we don't know what other harsh regulations he will introduce to the markets. Meanwhile, Trump will be able to introduce regulations that are friendlier to us.

In a recent interview, Larry Fink said that he is a big believer in Bitcoin after researching it and he also admitted that he was wrong to doubt it five years ago. Do you think Larry Fink is a liar like Trump?
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these were from the past but I believe a real politician stands his own ground

i would only believe a politician who’s in support of bitcoin if they have been showing support to it even prior to elections what a politician say or do when there is no election at stake is the sincerest and raw he can ever be

They are both not in support of bitcoin but are refusing to be outright about it so it doesn't trigger the population whos into bitcoin not to support them, for me, if their victory is crypto dependent then in clear terms, neither of them should win because obviously neither of them will promote crypto currency to thrive in their rule. if i am to vote based on their concerns with cryptocurrency, I'm voting non i will want someone who can state in clear terms their support from crypto currency then we can be sure he mentioned it and to hold him by his words if the need arises.

When you see people hate something like Bitcoin, it's either because they didn't have the opportunity to buy get it early like others or they are afraid the attention it's getting because it's going to affect their own place of wealth which is the traditional finance they keep modifying every year so it wouldn't collapse. Most of these men only understand the system they were but it seems they are now woke and because it's now a political movement and they have to accept it in their manifesto.

I personally don't believe them, anyone that want to donate Bitcoin to them is free to donate to them but I have nothing to give. It is unbelievable for people to even think a man like Trump that has serve the US for 4 good years with all the money he has accumulated will come out to say that he needed the support of people and they are donating their hard earned bought Bitcoin to sponsor another person political ambition, this is the highest level of foolishness I have seen in a while but I pray he win so I can he wrong.

I honestly do not think Bitcoin needs their validation to grow, we all have seen from past records that both Donald Trump and Biden have never been fans of Bitcoin. Donald Trump in particular has seized every opportunity given to him to express his hatred for bitcoin. I do not really care if he is now a repented sinner or he is trying hard just like every other politician to gather supporters to himself. If he has succeeded in pulling some Bitcoin enthusiasts to himself, then good for him. I strongly that Bitcoin will still grow stronger with or without some fake support from these political leaders.

People change. Their opinions change. Trump is pro-bitcoin now. Biden is anti-bitcoin. Trump is the one who will be talking at the Bitcoin 2024 conference in Nashville on July/27. It is pretty clear to me which is which.

Biden is not "anti-Bitcoin" and has never made any policy decisions that would indicate anything of the kind.

Bitcoin went up 500% under president Biden, and the reason for that is he simply kept things as they are and put criminals like SBF in prison, keeping the market safe for average investors.

Trump is a known liar who will say absolutely anything in order to get elected, even if what he said one day contradicts what he said the day after that. Bitcoin might well be made illegal under Trump if somebody convinced him he would personally profit from that.

You have a good point here. Biden has probably closed any chance of liking bitcoin but with Trump, there's always a big chances from not a fan to become a fanatic and now he's very supportive with bitcoin and its community. I don't know if this is just part of the play or he's really into bitcoin, but one thing is certain, we will find out everything once the election is over. But for now, let's just focus on how to vote wisely. Biden and Trump have both potentials to win, but seeing Trump has become more open-minded to cryptocurrency particularly bitcoin, I think that will make him gain an edge over Biden while winning the hearts of the bitcoin community.

But Bitcoin is not included in the choices, although I think what you really mean is Biden because his name is also close to it and your description is about this guy because I heard positive comments about him before from both the Bitcoin community and outside it. I also heard that Trump have said negative things in Bitcoin in the past, although last time there is a post here which states that Trump is warmly supporting Bitcoin once again. That could be true, I mean for a while only because we know that the US election is coming once again. You know, he want to get the sympathy of the Bitcoin users, as he knows that there are lots of them. And if we will check the date of the image in the first post, we will see that the date is still from the year of 2019.

I respect your opinion about Trump but I think, the reason on why Trump is more trendy than the rest of the candidates, is because of his shady doings and negative opinions about something that are not really negative (BTC for example). Sorry about that if you find that offensive but anyways, I think you should pick Joe Biden instead of Donald Trump because this is where your first few sentences are saying and only/also to not contradict your whole post.

You are right about politicians and everyone knows it, they are really untrustworthy and the votes of crypto investors are not the main factor in deciding who gets elected. But we only have 2 options and no third option here, if you had to choose who would you choose?

One person is declaring support for bitcoin on all fronts, anytime, anywhere. A person who has introduced many regulations to prevent the development of bitcoin and cryptocurrencies, they appear to dislike bitcoin and have no intention of ending the repression of crypto. As a bitcoin investor, who do you think presents a clearer opportunity for us? I think it's not too difficult to figure out who we should vote for.

Misleading. There was a crypto related hack in 2020 on which joe's tweet was a response to. Twitter accounts of many famous people were hacked, and promoting a bitcoin scam (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2020_Twitter_account_hijacking), on which the real users had to warn their followers not to fall into. He didn't came out of the blue just to say he hates bitcoin. Everyone who was worried about their followers had to respond.

And this is unrelated, but Trump's twitter account wouldn't have been that hard to hack eiher: https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-55337192

This is probably the case, in fact I believe that they do not "dislike" bitcoin, I just believe that both of them are nearly 80 years old, which means that there is a chance that we may actually consider the situation as "they do not care about it at all" type of situation.

This doesn't mean that it is going to happen or not, it just means that we are going to end up with something that will take a while for them to realize what's going to happen. If we can do that, then we could potentially end up making something that will take a while longer. Trump and Biden probably just ignore it, they don't care, it is not on their agenda, personally they have no opinion about it at all.

Biden is not anti-Bitcoin and never has been.

Bitcoin went up 500% under president Biden.

You’re like a broken record! The senile fossil hates Bitcoin, Trump loves it!   8)

First off, let’s just get one thing straight- Joe Biden doesn’t have the faintest idea of what crypto even is! I’m sure he doesn’t even know what it means and if you ask him all he will want to do is go and get an ice cream cone and mumble gibberish under his breath

Both are actually anti-bitcoin in the previous years. But recently, since Trump is trying to build a connection with the bitcoin community, I guess it's one of his strategies to shift into bitcoin to support bitcoin and the whole team. I don't know if this is for real or not, but if Trump is really serious on it, then there's no need for debate anymore as it's clear for us who should win the presidential election. We're lucky already if in the long run Trump will sit in his position and will continue to support bitcoin and promote its welfare and development.

But there is no guarantee Trump will do anything since, once he is elected, he will have no reason to care about Bitcoin holders. He will only do things that benefit himself, which means that if he personally holds Bitcoin, he'll be pro-Bitcoin, but if somebody tells him (correctly) that making TrumpCoin the official crypto of the USA and outlawing Bitcoin here will make him a trillion dollars, then that's what he will do.

Trump is not pro-Bitcoin, Trump is pro-Trump.

as you said, bitcoin will grow with or without them, because basically the power of bitcoin does not come from their central power, but from the community that made it exist until now. even when they issue regulations that contradict what they previously said about bitcoin, it will only have a temporary effect on the market, but will not have a significant impact on the development of bitcoin in the future.

so whoever is elected, bitcoin will continue to grow.

In my opinion, this is just each person's individual perspective on Bitcoin, whereas voting is another matter entirely. It relates to the vision and benefits of a country and all of humanity.

I also think that Bitcoin cannot be linked to voting for one of the American presidential candidates because that would happen purely without having anything to do with Bitcoin. And even if Bitcoin holders and Bitcoin enthusiasts prefer one of the current presidential candidates, of course each of them also has a special reason for this. Apart from that, everyone has also seen how the current president is performing so that they can make quite clear comparisons when they want to vote for other candidates.

Trump doesn't seem to be someone who loves Bitcoin just because he likes it, he just uses it as political fodder and doesn't really stand by it. But compared to other candidates, at least Trump offers better odds on Bitcoin if he is elected president - so I would say that Trump might be the best candidate right now for Bitcoiners, even if he is not as good as his promises, but let's be realistic and give a chance to someone who at least promises something good for Bitcoin.

It's always funny to see people believe the nonsense politicians tell them during elections :D

Both of these two old men dislike Bitcoin because as POTUS they cannot control it, tax it, censor it, etc. So their stance is going to be pretty much the same with some details being different. More censorship, more KYC, more restrictions, more mixers and exchanges being shut down, ... is coming no matter who wins the upcoming election.

The truth is, both of them hate bitcoin probably until now. Until Trump started to change his perspectives about bitcoin and said those things in favor and support with bitcoin, which I don't know until when. Although some would say that people can change just like Trump, but to be honest, there's something in him telling me that everything is part of the plan.

Well, Biden is clearly not supporting bitcoin, but if Trump is really honest with his support with bitcoin, then it should be him who'll be the next president. Not Biden, nor the other candidates as well.