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Title: Using casino bonus frequently is an abused?
Post by: dimonstration on September 19, 2024, 12:18:58 AM
I made a topic related this matter before on this thread https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5468782.msg62929040#msg62929040.

I forgot that I’m limited on using the bonus of this casino due busyness on other casino. I deposit and wait for the bonus that didn’t arrived so I contacted the support about this.

Surprisingly, they gave me a reason that I’m restricted to the casino bonus due to the bonus abused?! I understand if they will just restrict me to use this bonus because I’m winning using it but using the word bonus abused while you are just using it properly is a bit harsh.

Is it an abused if you use the bonus on your deposit. On this specific case, Winz.io has wheel that resets every 3 days so I made deposit every 3 days to avail this bonus. I don’t understand what part is the abused on this case.



Title: Re: Using casino bonus frequently is an abused?
Post by: ralle14 on September 19, 2024, 12:48:59 AM
It's their way of saying you win too much from our promotions, similar to how sportsbooks suddenly limit their winning players.

I also wouldn't say it's abuse when you're only taking advantage of the bonus, and i've seen other casinos limit players when they overuse their bonuses.

Casinos need to stem the bleeding at some point, they can't keep giving away profits all the time when it could hold them back from growing bigger.


Title: Re: Using casino bonus frequently is an abused?
Post by: dimonstration on September 19, 2024, 01:04:34 AM

Casinos need to stem the bleeding at some point, they can't keep giving away profits all the time when it could hold them back from growing bigger.

I totally understand this part that’s why I accept wholeheartedly the restrictions on my account. It’s just irritating to see the casino reasoning for the abused like wtf is wrong for using the bonus frequently.

They should put a limitation on how much many it can be use if they don’t want user keep availing it. FYI I just use the bonus 3 times with 3 days or week intervals while I only get 20$ to 50$ out of the free spin and have a total 100$ profit when I withdraw. I only earn few bucks in total while this casino outrageous already to accuse of bonus abused.  :D


Title: Re: Using casino bonus frequently is an abused?
Post by: alani123 on September 19, 2024, 01:34:59 AM
Casino deposit bonuses are supposed to be a one time thing usually. Or at least each bonus should be used once per person depending on the promotion.

If you admit to signing up for multiple accounts then what is there to discuss? Clearly you're in violation of the terms of service, so it's not harsh to say this is abuse. It's the very definition of it. Whenever you get a bonus you're agreeing that you'll get it only once, and yet you went on to make multiple accounts for this very promotion.

In my view if the casino knew of this they should have blocked you from making accounts too, but better late than sorry. Imagine if you had already won and they told you afterwards your winnings aren't valid. At least they were upstanding in that regard.


Title: Re: Using casino bonus frequently is an abused?
Post by: Darker45 on September 19, 2024, 01:36:09 AM
Provided your story is entirely true and you've not violated any of the casino's terms and conditions like multiple accounts or a different account but shares the same computer, IP address, and whatnot, then I assume it's because you're making the most of their bonus while being lucky.

I presume casinos don't like users who religiously take advantage of their bonuses or using it every time it's available and make money in the process. Of course, they don't tell you that you're deprived of it because you've been using it according to its terms. That would be awkward. So they say it's an abuse. It's not but they don't like it when the player and not the casino is the one earning.


Title: Re: Using casino bonus frequently is an abused?
Post by: Yatsan on September 19, 2024, 02:04:37 AM
I made a topic related this matter before on this thread https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5468782.msg62929040#msg62929040.

I forgot that I’m limited on using the bonus of this casino due to my multiple casino account and active on all of those account. I deposit and wait for the bonus that didn’t arrived so I contacted the support about this.

Surprisingly, they gave me a reason that I’m restricted to the casino bonus due to the bonus abused?! I understand if they will just restrict me to use this bonus because I’m winning using it but using the word bonus abused while you are just using it properly is a bit harsh.

Is it an abused if you use the bonus on your deposit. On this specific case, Winz.io has wheel that resets every 3 days so I made deposit every 3 days to avail this bonus. I don’t understand what part is the abused on this case.



That looks pretty much like you had a great experience! Definitely frustrating when playing the right way and get conclusions about your progress. Casinos often set bonuses to attract players. But if someone wins continuously They can be defensive.

This is a good way to look at it, your view toward it as a compliment of your abilities and abilities, of course. Casinos are in business to make money-and when players are allowed to take risks they can change the rules to protect their coffers.

Actually, in your case, if you used the bonus as they intended-to invest and following the advice that they were peddling you-it seems more than a little unfair, although do not say it is wrong. The odd thing is, on occasion, casinos have been known to overreact and take bonuses as fairly dangerous, especially if you have multiples accounts.

It may be worth writing to clarify its meaning. "Bonus abuse" and explain your circumstances in as much detail as you can. Sometimes a frank chat can clear all this up. Your decision to concentrate on casinos rather than on gaming may be the wise one. Particularly if you enjoy yourself, or even make good money, there. A sobering reminder that, after all, the purpose of gaming is to enjoy oneself first; it's not just about taking profits

Provided your story is entirely true and you've not violated any of the casino's terms and conditions like multiple accounts or a different account but shares the same computer, IP address, and whatnot, then I assume it's because you're making the most of their bonus while being lucky.

I presume casinos don't like users who religiously take advantage of their bonuses or using it every time it's available and make money in the process. Of course, they don't tell you that you're deprived of it because you've been using it according to its terms. That would be awkward. So they say it's an abuse. It's not but they don't like it when the player and not the casino is the one earning.

So, I fully understand that they seek ways to defend their interests. Especially with the problems connected to the bonus-related issues. It is frustrating when you play by the book and there are still so many limitations. Of course, they do not want the player to take advantage of their goals sometimes, even if it is done in line with the rules.

That's rather ironic. Casinos want to attract players with bonuses, but it seems that this punishes success. I think this is all part of the business. I have decided to shift on another platform where I am going to get to play the game to my heart's desire without all those limits. It reminds me to keep enjoying games rather than just profiting.


Title: Re: Using casino bonus frequently is an abused?
Post by: Yaunfitda on September 19, 2024, 02:07:42 AM
Surprisingly, they gave me a reason that I’m restricted to the casino bonus due to the bonus abused?! I understand if they will just restrict me to use this bonus because I’m winning using it but using the word bonus abused while you are just using it properly is a bit harsh.
Take it as it is though, you might not like the term "abuse", but it seems that's they see you doing it against them and then winning some. Maybe they think that you have found a loophole on their system and you are taking advantage of it. Plus you admit that you have multiple accounts on that casino. Maybe you only used one account to avail of the bonus and the other account inactive. But they still see that in their system and probably tagged your active account for that.

And when you make money out of this casino bonus, which we shouldn't then this casinos doesn't like it. Even in last base casinos, with free bets or whatever casino bonus you will get, it's like it is set that no gambler should not win.  :)


Title: Re: Using casino bonus frequently is an abused?
Post by: dansus021 on September 19, 2024, 02:33:51 AM
Using casino bonus frequently is an abused? What I just barely knew was that our account cant be put into freeze because of the use bonus. Last time I hit jackpot is from Wagabet they offer 10K satoshi Bitcoin and I can manage to withdraw it 300 USD at that time but after that I don't withdraw again the bonus because I lost in the last game.

I know that if we win lot of money from the casino can make the site hurt but bonus is the first thing they gave to user so i believe should be fine if we use lot of bonus and promotion


Title: Re: Using casino bonus frequently is an abused?
Post by: dimonstration on September 19, 2024, 02:56:57 AM
Casino deposit bonuses are supposed to be a one time thing usually. Or at least each bonus should be used once per person depending on the promotion.

If you admit to signing up for multiple accounts then what is there to discuss? Clearly you're in violation of the terms of service, so it's not harsh to say this is abuse. It's the very definition of it. Whenever you get a bonus you're agreeing that you'll get it only once, and yet you went on to make multiple accounts for this very promotion.

In my view if the casino knew of this they should have blocked you from making accounts too, but better late than sorry. Imagine if you had already won and they told you afterwards your winnings aren't valid. At least they were upstanding in that regard.

At least read the whole context and the reference of the topic to have a clear view on what kind of bonus we are talking about here. You are just assuming on your post based on the title alone and this is a clear spam.

I didn’t violate the ToS and FYI I’m an experienced gamble, I‘m not naive to violate casino ToS. I suggest to read again the whole context before you made a post or I will report you to @Hhampuz.

I presume casinos don't like users who religiously take advantage of their bonuses or using it every time it's available and make money in the process. Of course, they don't tell you that you're deprived of it because you've been using it according to its terms. That would be awkward. So they say it's an abuse. It's not but they don't like it when the player and not the casino is the one earning.

I understand this since casino is a business. But blaming user with the term bonus abuse while they design their bonus the way to be claim regularly is absurd. Also what a shame is they are using this bonus abuse as early as winning a measly amount.
 


Title: Re: Using casino bonus frequently is an abused?
Post by: Coin_trader on September 19, 2024, 04:21:33 AM
I never experienced this issue however this shouldn’t fall as bonus abused if you are claiming it using one account within the period they give on the bonus structure.

It’s more on taking advantage of the bonus rather an abused which is very frequent case on the casino that offers generous bonus just to attract new user. They are using bonus to lure new players hoping that they will lose despite having a bonus. On your case, you win which means you are not profitable to business.

The only move you can do now is to just forget the existence of that casino.


Title: Re: Using casino bonus frequently is an abused?
Post by: Shishir99 on September 19, 2024, 04:44:21 AM
I forgot that I’m limited on using the bonus of this casino due to my multiple casino account and active on all of those account. I deposit and wait for the bonus that didn’t arrived so I contacted the support about this.

Surprisingly, they gave me a reason that I’m restricted to the casino bonus due to the bonus abused?! I understand if they will just restrict me to use this bonus because I’m winning using it but using the word bonus abused while you are just using it properly is a bit harsh.

Seriously bro? You yourself just admitted that you have multiple accounts and you are active on all of those accounts. You should know that most casinos online does not even allow creating multiple accounts. But there are some casinos which could allow multiple accounts but the limit is, you cannot use bonus in more than one account.

If they suspect you of trying bonus in all of your account, surely they have the rights to say it's an abuse. It's a matter of common sense.

Imagine you have a bonus system on your business and someone is creating multiple accounts and using the bonus to win, don't you think it's a abuse? Possibly you won't understand that until you own the business.


Title: Re: Using casino bonus frequently is an abused?
Post by: fruktik on September 19, 2024, 04:48:40 AM
This is some kind of pandemic among the youth. Do young people really hope that they will be able to earn money this way on a permanent basis? Almost every one of us knows the answer to this question. There is no need to go to a fortune teller. The current generation is not particularly eager to earn money through their own labor. How does this happen? That is the main question. Maybe the salaries are small and therefore they are looking for the most profitable ways to earn income? Most likely, this is so. I do not see any other reasons.


Title: Re: Using casino bonus frequently is an abused?
Post by: danherbias07 on September 19, 2024, 04:58:36 AM

Casinos need to stem the bleeding at some point, they can't keep giving away profits all the time when it could hold them back from growing bigger.

I totally understand this part that’s why I accept wholeheartedly the restrictions on my account. It’s just irritating to see the casino reasoning for the abused like wtf is wrong for using the bonus frequently.

They should put a limitation on how much many it can be use if they don’t want user keep availing it. FYI I just use the bonus 3 times with 3 days or week intervals while I only get 20$ to 50$ out of the free spin and have a total 100$ profit when I withdraw. I only earn few bucks in total while this casino outrageous already to accuse of bonus abused.  :D
That low huh? I guess they don't really like anyone getting the better hand even though it's just for a few dollars.
I think the question is, who is on the wrong side here?

All you did was take advantage of the bonuses but sadly, they cannot keep their promise anymore. The bonuses are there for a reason and that's to make the gambling site more inviting to new players.
Well, it seems like you found the mistake on what they did and they cannot admit it directly so they ban you for taking advantage of it. How can we trust gambling sites if they use this kind of method just to erase us? I'd do what you did on your first thread, just switch to a new site that will keep their promotion even though I am winning. It will be difficult to find it but there will be one.


Title: Re: Using casino bonus frequently is an abused?
Post by: Davidvictorson on September 19, 2024, 05:03:08 AM
Is it an abused if you use the bonus on your deposit. On this specific case, Winz.io has wheel that resets every 3 days so I made deposit every 3 days to avail this bonus. I don’t understand what part is the abused on this case.
Do not take it too personal. Abuse for them may be another word for over-use. They must have been keeping tabs on your account and noticed that the reason you deposit every 3 days is just to take advantage of the bonus and it didn't sit well with them because you know they are a business and one of their major ways of generating revenue is when players deposit and play frequently and not via the bonus. Bonus don't give them money. Rather it is a marketing strategy to bring in new players.


Title: Re: Using casino bonus frequently is an abused?
Post by: Wexnident on September 19, 2024, 05:12:27 AM
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Their casino their rules? You also noted that you were "limited" on using the bonus already (and I'm rather confused why they just didn't auto set for you to be unable to use it after a certain point) so I reckon it's because of overuse rather than winning. They probably got a hold of your multiaccounts which I reckon uses all the bonuses talked about here, and they just took action. Sadly I think most of this is just our (or my) assumption really and we can't exactly know how you abused the bonus so I don't think we'd get to the bottom of why they restricted your account.

And to add, winz (and pretty much any casino out there) always holds a clause that they have the right to exclude customers when they detect "abuse", so they're pretty much the only ones who can answer how you abused the system exactly.


Title: Re: Using casino bonus frequently is an abused?
Post by: EluguHcman on September 19, 2024, 05:56:04 AM
If the casino supports per player to own more than one account in the same casino site why then would it be tagged bonus abuse?

Better of if the don't support more than one account and just restrict you if found you had more than one account with them.

But anyways... It all depends on the individual casinos. While I maybe interested to ask, was the related bonus abuse criteria included in their policies? Because lot of players are fond of playing adamant towards going through the casino T&Cs and are just interested on a particular goal in the casino without undermining if going Contrarily.

However, you might probably not be chasing after the bonuses but mean to just have multiple accounts and then you got gifted with the bonuses in your accounts. So how was it then your fault? Some casinos can really act funny and I think it is a high time there comes a commissioned jurisdiction to always stand  in-between gamblers and the casinos.


Title: Re: Using casino bonus frequently is an abused?
Post by: Kelward on September 19, 2024, 06:24:29 AM
I made a topic related this matter before on this thread https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5468782.msg62929040#msg62929040.

Is it an abused if you use the bonus on your deposit. On this specific case, Winz.io has wheel that resets every 3 days so I made deposit every 3 days to avail this bonus. I don’t understand what part is the abused on this case.


It shouldn't be an abuse if you use the bonus that a casino gives to you, afterall they give it to their gambling customers to entice them to gamble more. What you have to understand is that casinos don't like lucky customers. It's ok if you're losing your money to them but the moment you start being lucky or leveraging on the benefits that is given to you they'll not be too happy. Perhaps abuse clause might be in their terms and conditions, if it's not then it's not fair to tag it as an "abused". I guess you have to make adjustments and use their bonuses as it suits them.


Title: Re: Using casino bonus frequently is an abused?
Post by: EarnOnVictor on September 19, 2024, 06:34:25 AM
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Surprisingly, they gave me a reason that I’m restricted to the casino bonus due to the bonus abused?! I understand if they will just restrict me to use this bonus because I’m winning using it but using the word bonus abused while you are just using it properly is a bit harsh.

Is it an abused if you use the bonus on your deposit. On this specific case, Winz.io has wheel that resets every 3 days so I made deposit every 3 days to avail this bonus. I don’t understand what part is the abused on this case.
This might keep anyone wondering really but you should not let that affect you, and no, you didn't abuse their bonus, if you did, they would have told you in the message sent to you, but it wasn't there. What I can say is that you might have exhausted their bonus policy which might not be included in the Ts&Cs, especially if you are a progressive gambler, the bonus is at the sole discretion of the casino.

My advice: flee the casino if you feel cheated, bonuses are part of financial support and encouragement for gamblers, and you can take your money elsewhere if you so desire. Who knows, after months of inactivity, they might even be the one calling you back and luring you with bonus offers. It's the loyal customers that many of them treat like that as if we do not have alternatives.


Title: Re: Using casino bonus frequently is an abused?
Post by: swogerino on September 19, 2024, 06:38:23 AM
I made a topic related this matter before on this thread https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5468782.msg62929040#msg62929040.

I forgot that I’m limited on using the bonus of this casino due to my multiple casino account and active on all of those account. I deposit and wait for the bonus that didn’t arrived so I contacted the support about this.

Surprisingly, they gave me a reason that I’m restricted to the casino bonus due to the bonus abused?! I understand if they will just restrict me to use this bonus because I’m winning using it but using the word bonus abused while you are just using it properly is a bit harsh.

Is it an abused if you use the bonus on your deposit. On this specific case, Winz.io has wheel that resets every 3 days so I made deposit every 3 days to avail this bonus. I don’t understand what part is the abused on this case.



I have never received such response from the casino as I usually lose everything from bonuses to deposits so the casino is very happy with my performance so never tell me that any bonus that applies to all others is restricted for me. However I think that big reputable casinos do not care much even if you win as in the long run they know you will get screwed and they know they will get everything back and even new deposits so this casino who restricts you need to learn to give players possibilities as in the end they will be the winners.


Title: Re: Using casino bonus frequently is an abused?
Post by: dimonstration on September 19, 2024, 06:52:21 AM
I forgot that I’m limited on using the bonus of this casino due to my multiple casino account and active on all of those account. I deposit and wait for the bonus that didn’t arrived so I contacted the support about this.

Surprisingly, they gave me a reason that I’m restricted to the casino bonus due to the bonus abused?! I understand if they will just restrict me to use this bonus because I’m winning using it but using the word bonus abused while you are just using it properly is a bit harsh.

Seriously bro? You yourself just admitted that you have multiple accounts and you are active on all of those accounts. You should know that most casinos online does not even allow creating multiple accounts. But there are some casinos which could allow multiple accounts but the limit is, you cannot use bonus in more than one account.


I’m pertaining to multiple casino account not multiple account on single casino. I’m very active on different casino. Maybe my wording is confusing so I edit it. Reading it multiple times surely sounds like that.

Not trying to prolong this speculation but I never have multiple account on single casino.



Title: Re: Using casino bonus frequently is an abused?
Post by: Hirose UK on September 19, 2024, 06:58:25 AM
I made a topic related this matter before on this thread https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5468782.msg62929040#msg62929040.

Is it an abused if you use the bonus on your deposit. On this specific case, Winz.io has wheel that resets every 3 days so I made deposit every 3 days to avail this bonus. I don’t understand what part is the abused on this case.
It shouldn't be an abuse if you use the bonus that a casino gives to you, afterall they give it to their gambling customers to entice them to gamble more. What you have to understand is that casinos don't like lucky customers. It's ok if you're losing your money to them but the moment you start being lucky or leveraging on the benefits that is given to you they'll not be too happy. Perhaps abuse clause might be in their terms and conditions, if it's not then it's not fair to tag it as an "abused". I guess you have to make adjustments and use their bonuses as it suits them.
Yes, that could be pretty logical reason, casinos give bonuses to customers to be able to provide interest and curiosity so that customers can play more often and deposit money, but on the other hand, casinos actually won't let their customers make certain amount of money from each bonus given.
It just that this is the first time I heard of casino account that is restricted from bonuses just because it wins more often and makes profit from the bonuses given, but it also quite inappropriate if all these restrictions are based on reasons based on bonus abuse.
If bonus abuse is done especially with more than one account, then it is no longer restriction on bonuses because the casino can freeze the account, it quite surprising that something like this happens.


Title: Re: Using casino bonus frequently is an abused?
Post by: bitbollo on September 19, 2024, 07:00:03 AM
all these operations are carried out according to their regulations or ToS.
So there is nothing illegal. At most OP can be angry about these exclusions but in reality there is nothing wrong.
it is also true that if all casinos did not have such possibilities to deny bonus, they would simply go bankrupt


Title: Re: Using casino bonus frequently is an abused?
Post by: Outhue on September 19, 2024, 07:37:27 AM
Did you just mentioned multiple casino account? That's a nice casino, do you mind sharing the name of the casino? Because any online casino can held you accountable for using multiple accounts on its platform, you don't want to be complaining about bonuses restrictions when you are using multiple accounts, that's not nice.

1. Maybe you are winning over and over?
2. A multiple account user that you are.

Online casinos are very good at keeping tabs on their users, like I've said before, they are been nice to you, most online casinos I know will hold you for using multiple accounts already and they may do this after you win something meaningful.


Title: Re: Using casino bonus frequently is an abused?
Post by: fruktik on September 19, 2024, 07:39:32 AM
Using casino bonus frequently is an abused? What I just barely knew was that our account cant be put into freeze because of the use bonus. Last time I hit jackpot is from Wagabet they offer 10K satoshi Bitcoin and I can manage to withdraw it 300 USD at that time but after that I don't withdraw again the bonus because I lost in the last game.

I know that if we win lot of money from the casino can make the site hurt but bonus is the first thing they gave to user so i believe should be fine if we use lot of bonus and promotion
And what is the abuse? What a strange question. Personally, I don't think so. If a casino gives a bonus, then it should be used. Even if they give it out every day, then why not? I only use these bonuses with great joy.

If my memory serves me right, this has happened in my practice. They credited bonuses daily and I played with them. I even managed to withdraw something.


Title: Re: Using casino bonus frequently is an abused?
Post by: ethereumhunter on September 19, 2024, 07:53:39 AM
Maybe casino have their definition about bonus abused so they explain what they want to their customer. That can make us as customer confuse with the casino wants and even they are trying to explain what they want, we still think that it is not make sense to hear their explanation. If I have in your situation, I will not playing gambling in that casino because I think I have the other casinos that can give me more excitement. We as a user have many choices to playing gambling and that is not just for one casino only. You don't have to think what part is the abused on your case because casino don't want to see their members win many times.


Title: Re: Using casino bonus frequently is an abused?
Post by: sompitonov on September 19, 2024, 07:55:57 AM
The thing is that frequent use of bonuses is something I really like and I can spend more time on it to get additional spins or increase our first deposit and so on. Obviously, the casino does this to attract new users, and of course they don't like it when the same players start using it, especially old ones and those who don't bet too much. But what's important is whether it is written in the rules that you can't use it multiple times. I understand that they will write that you can't abuse these promotions in the rules, but then let them write about it in the next line and in capital letters, then it will be clear that they feel sorry to give away part of the money for this.


Title: Re: Using casino bonus frequently is an abused?
Post by: Nwada001 on September 19, 2024, 08:01:31 AM
Provided your story is entirely true and you've not violated any of the casino's terms and conditions like multiple accounts or a different account but shares the same computer, IP address, and whatnot, then I assume it's because you're making the most of their bonus while being lucky.
For someone who is winning with almost all the bonus that he receives on every deposit made after three days, if there is any form of the user violating their policy on multi-accounting, I don't think the casino would have just restricted him from receiving further bonuses.
 
Rather, it could have been a perfect reason for them to fortify his deposit, but this case is different. Just like the first thread of the Op back last year, the casino's don't know how to directly tell him that he is overwinning them, and if he is doing that, he should only be winning with his deposit and not with their bonus too, so I assume they stop giving him a bonus in order to reduce how much he can win off from the casino.


Title: Re: Using casino bonus frequently is an abused?
Post by: lovesmayfamilis on September 19, 2024, 08:02:19 AM
Did you just mentioned multiple casino account? That's a nice casino, do you mind sharing the name of the casino? Because any online casino can held you accountable for using multiple accounts on its platform, you don't want to be complaining about bonuses restrictions when you are using multiple accounts, that's not nice.

1. Maybe you are winning over and over?
2. A multiple account user that you are.

Online casinos are very good at keeping tabs on their users, like I've said before, they are been nice to you, most online casinos I know will hold you for using multiple accounts already and they may do this after you win something meaningful.

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I didn’t violate the ToS and FYI I’m an experienced gamble, I‘m not naive to violate casino ToS. I suggest to read again the whole context before you made a post or I will report you to @Hhampuz.

It looks like the OP will complain about you to the manager :D. You are inattentive. The OP writes that he uses one account per casino. Although I don't know how many paying casinos are on his list and how this is possible. But if the OP does this, then it works for him.
Previously, this was called bonus hunting.

However, I am on the OP's side. Although we know that bonuses are a complete marketing ploy for newbies, the casino must fulfill everything that players use, or completely cancel everything.
Otherwise, it looks like you, as a consistently winning player, are no longer of interest to the casino, and they are happy to see new people getting bonuses and even more losing with their bonuses.


Title: Re: Using casino bonus frequently is an abused?
Post by: Rampagoe004 on September 19, 2024, 09:03:59 AM
Maybe casino have their definition about bonus abused so they explain what they want to their customer. That can make us as customer confuse with the casino wants and even they are trying to explain what they want, we still think that it is not make sense to hear their explanation. If I have in your situation, I will not playing gambling in that casino because I think I have the other casinos that can give me more excitement. We as a user have many choices to playing gambling and that is not just for one casino only. You don't have to think what part is the abused on your case because casino don't want to see their members win many times.

We as users still have many other options to get more real profits and don't have to rely on one casino site that provides bonuses. An interesting thought in terms of responding to bonuses from casinos which are often misused because the casinos explain the desire to loyal customers to achieve monthly or annual targets.
the things that are explained are like not being sure in our understanding of the meaning of what they are explaining. We have to learn from the casino here that we players are impossible to give wins to the same member no more than 2x and even that is very difficult to happen.


Title: Re: Using casino bonus frequently is an abused?
Post by: satscraper on September 19, 2024, 09:50:01 AM
I made a topic related this matter before on this thread https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5468782.msg62929040#msg62929040.

I forgot that I’m limited on using the bonus of this casino due busyness on other casino. I deposit and wait for the bonus that didn’t arrived so I contacted the support about this.

Surprisingly, they gave me a reason that I’m restricted to the casino bonus due to the bonus abused?! I understand if they will just restrict me to use this bonus because I’m winning using it but using the word bonus abused while you are just using it properly is a bit harsh.

Is it an abused if you use the bonus on your deposit. On this specific case, Winz.io has wheel that resets every 3 days so I made deposit every 3 days to avail this bonus. I don’t understand what part is the abused on this case.



I think in your case casino has abused you rather than vice versa.  I would immediately quit cold this casino, disseminate this case over Internet to prevent other gamblers from  a dirty trick  which casino plays  with them. There are many casinos that allows to use allocated bonuses on your own will. The action of this particular casino seems to be irrational for me.


Title: Re: Using casino bonus frequently is an abused?
Post by: Taskford on September 19, 2024, 09:56:21 AM
I made a topic related this matter before on this thread https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5468782.msg62929040#msg62929040.

I forgot that I’m limited on using the bonus of this casino due busyness on other casino. I deposit and wait for the bonus that didn’t arrived so I contacted the support about this.

Surprisingly, they gave me a reason that I’m restricted to the casino bonus due to the bonus abused?! I understand if they will just restrict me to use this bonus because I’m winning using it but using the word bonus abused while you are just using it properly is a bit harsh.

Is it an abused if you use the bonus on your deposit. On this specific case, Winz.io has wheel that resets every 3 days so I made deposit every 3 days to avail this bonus. I don’t understand what part is the abused on this case.


If they intentionally give those bonus then there's no reason for them to tag you as a abuser since normally a gambler would provably use that if there's a bonus given on their account. Its so shady that they use it as reason to stop you from winning on their casino so with that cases I guess its better to avoid them since maybe who knows you might experience the worse and create something issue just to stop your withdrawal if you request it to them.

Also this incident show that they don't really like their player to win and those bonus is just to lure people to gamble in their casino, but if they win they are limiting those players and say something that they abuse their bonuses which is  crazy reason to hear.


Title: Re: Using casino bonus frequently is an abused?
Post by: Zlantann on September 19, 2024, 10:11:23 AM
Surprisingly, they gave me a reason that I’m restricted to the casino bonus due to the bonus abused?! I understand if they will just restrict me to use this bonus because I’m winning using it but using the word bonus abused while you are just using it properly is a bit harsh.

Is it an abused if you use the bonus on your deposit. On this specific case, Winz.io has wheel that resets every 3 days so I made deposit every 3 days to avail this bonus. I don’t understand what part is the abused on this case.

The choice of words of the support staff is inappropriate. Calling it bonus abuse makes it look like you violated the terms of the bonus which is not the case here. They should have simply told OP that he is not qualified to enjoy the bonus based on the decision of the management instead of accusing him of bonus abuse. I suggest that if you are not comfortable with them, stop gambling there and move on. Customer relations staff should be well trained on how to communicate with people appropriately.  

We as users still have many other options to get more real profits and don't have to rely on one casino site that provides bonuses.

Bonus is what attracts me to a casino and it can also make me a loyal customer if it keeps coming. Truly, we don't have to rely on these bonuses to win but they can give one a higher chance of winning. Casinos also know that gamblers need these incentives which is why they offer good bonuses.  


Title: Re: Using casino bonus frequently is an abused?
Post by: Odusko on September 19, 2024, 10:25:59 AM
Using casino bonus frequently is an abused? What I just barely knew was that our account cant be put into freeze because of the use bonus. Last time I hit jackpot is from Wagabet they offer 10K satoshi Bitcoin and I can manage to withdraw it 300 USD at that time but after that I don't withdraw again the bonus because I lost in the last game.

I know that if we win lot of money from the casino can make the site hurt but bonus is the first thing they gave to user so i believe should be fine if we use lot of bonus and promotion
I don't believe that casino will limit player's based on frequent usage of bonus, this is because at some point bonuses are the sure ways to attract players to the site and if the player have seen that the bonuses gave them the chance to test out the site's, it becomes a thing of attraction to many of them and at that point continues playing on the site becomes the next thing,so saying that a casino blocked a player account because of bonus usage is somewhat not too clear to me and as a matter of fact we all need to be clear on what this really means since we already have the mindset that casino's are losing alot of money by giving out bonuses to both new and old players,but that been Said, alot of them also see that as a way of marketing the casino to reach new players and giving them the chance to play on that casinos, at some point,we need to all agree with the fact that gambling have to do with alot of thing's such as the activities of the gambler on the site and how is the manner of his previous transactions.

Although there are some other casinos that have some shady ways of operations and those in that category have been highly affected to the point that even without the player committing any crime, their can easily block such and account simply because their feels that the player is already winning too much, I don't know about winz.io and how their operates but quite a  good number of them have some bonus rules that can be unfriendly.


Title: Re: Using casino bonus frequently is an abused?
Post by: coin-investor on September 19, 2024, 10:55:42 AM


Is it an abused if you use the bonus on your deposit. On this specific case, Winz.io has wheel that resets every 3 days so I made deposit every 3 days to avail this bonus. I don’t understand what part is the abused on this case.



I'm not playing on Winz.io based on what I understand; the casino is the one that set up the rules and the terms, and you just availed of it without violating them on the rule of multi-accounting, so I don't see any abuse on that.

This is one case of a casino not taking it lightly. If the player wins a lot coming from the bonus they themselves set up, you cannot beat the house while playing, and you cannot beat them on their own rules. That's how dubious casinos implement their rules.

So if they are doing this on bonus alone, what more if you won a huge amount of money, They will cone out with reasons why you cannot withdraw your winnings.


 


Title: Re: Using casino bonus frequently is an abused?
Post by: famososMuertos on September 19, 2024, 10:59:40 AM
Well, if the rating they give you bothers you, it's not that serious, I mean, it doesn't matter, in the long run that is always intrinsic to the TOC and usually in the general items and not specific to that game, if I explain myself!

Then, that clause is used at their discretion depending on the case, at just any Casino.


Title: Re: Using casino bonus frequently is an abused?
Post by: Fortify on September 19, 2024, 11:13:00 AM
I made a topic related this matter before on this thread https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5468782.msg62929040#msg62929040.

I forgot that I’m limited on using the bonus of this casino due busyness on other casino. I deposit and wait for the bonus that didn’t arrived so I contacted the support about this.

Surprisingly, they gave me a reason that I’m restricted to the casino bonus due to the bonus abused?! I understand if they will just restrict me to use this bonus because I’m winning using it but using the word bonus abused while you are just using it properly is a bit harsh.

Is it an abused if you use the bonus on your deposit. On this specific case, Winz.io has wheel that resets every 3 days so I made deposit every 3 days to avail this bonus. I don’t understand what part is the abused on this case.

Bonuses are essentially an act of goodwill and generosity by a casino, you should not assume that you have a right to any of them. Bonuses can be abused in a couple ways, the first being blatant abuse like multi accounting which is bound to attract attention and will get you banned from a casino entirely. The second are lighter bonuses that might give you slightly better odds on a sports bet, but if you regularly use them you might be "gubbed" if you're considered an unprofitable player to them. You must always read the terms thoroughly, I get the impression you were banned from a certain bonus because you have used it at more than one in a specific casino group of websites.


Title: Re: Using casino bonus frequently is an abused?
Post by: BABY SHOES on September 19, 2024, 12:16:47 PM
No wonder your account has been scouted by the casino for utilizing the bonus wheel every 3 days, maybe Winz casino thinks you only use the bonus to deposit instead of playing directly.

So this is only limited to your account but you are not limited by others, right? This may consider you too excessive in the wheel bonus claimed... So for this casino it is not reasonable then consider this abuse.

I don't know exactly how the bonus from Winz is because I don't play at that casino.


Title: Re: Using casino bonus frequently is an abused?
Post by: Oluwa-btc on September 19, 2024, 12:45:05 PM
Is it an abused if you use the bonus on your deposit. On this specific case, Winz.io has wheel that resets every 3 days so I made deposit every 3 days to avail this bonus. I don’t understand what part is the abused on this case.

It's normal to have such restrictions which is due to some reasons or defaultness of account, how I understood this is in this manner when you get casino bonus sometimes you exhaust it inorder to win but for the casinos I think they don't program it to be so and when you're winning using the bonus allocated I think they take it as an abused, cause after getting the bonus you can try to make use of it once or twice then you deposit to play the games more that's how it should be.Cause basically I know alot of person wouldn't want to spend money in deposits after getting casino bonus that they can as well use it to gamble so that act is labeled as an abuse of the bonus so when giving such opportunity I think one need to utilize it wisely rather than exhausting it for a win.


Title: Re: Using casino bonus frequently is an abused?
Post by: YOSHIE on September 19, 2024, 12:54:54 PM
Using casino bonus frequently is an abused?
As far as I know, the bonus has conditions for pouring it in, if the conditions that have been set by the casino for you are completed, I think you have the freedom to use the bonus, no matter if you use it until it is used up or half or many times.

The bonus is your right given by the casino, you can use it repeatedly, it's not misuse, it's yours, but the bonus has an expiration date so you have to use it before the specified time, as long as that time is available you are free to use it, I have never seen that using any bonus can abuse casino rules, Winz.io has representatives here and members here are also busy playing there, maybe a little extra information from them would be useful, because I don't use Winz.io casino.


Title: Re: Using casino bonus frequently is an abused?
Post by: AHOYBRAUSE on September 19, 2024, 12:55:07 PM
It's their way of saying you win too much from our promotions, similar to how sportsbooks suddenly limit their winning players.

I also wouldn't say it's abuse when you're only taking advantage of the bonus, and i've seen other casinos limit players when they overuse their bonuses.

Casinos need to stem the bleeding at some point, they can't keep giving away profits all the time when it could hold them back from growing bigger.

Yeah but honestly, this would not be an abuse, he basically just got lucky if he actually won too much. The way everything is disigned you always need luck to be up, anything else is just imagination.
The only you an abuse would happen is when you have multiple accounts and or for example di arbitrage betting or whatever to clear a bonus.
So their wording in my opinion is very wrong and not the right explanation. But there is nothing a player can do since they always refer to the TOS and that you acknowledged them when registering.


Title: Re: Using casino bonus frequently is an abused?
Post by: SamReomo on September 19, 2024, 12:59:18 PM
No wonder your account has been scouted by the casino for utilizing the bonus wheel every 3 days, maybe Winz casino thinks you only use the bonus to deposit instead of playing directly.
Even if OP does that then still the casino shouldn't limit his account because the bonus was available freely by the casino itself and there's nothing wrong in taking advantage of bonuses that casinos offer themselves.

I haven't used that casino for long time so I can't say that how they want users to take bonuses but for me it's some kind of abuse to limit a player in that way.


Title: Re: Using casino bonus frequently is an abused?
Post by: Hewlet on September 19, 2024, 01:24:22 PM

Is it an abused if you use the bonus on your deposit. On this specific case, Winz.io has wheel that resets every 3 days so I made deposit every 3 days to avail this bonus. I don’t understand what part is the abused on this case.
this reminds me of booking a bolt at multiple times for an event with the bolt app indicating that I will get a certain percentage cut in the amount I'm supposed to pay as a bonus and having to argue with the urber rider who feels I'm supposed to pay the complete package. Ideally, bonus are incentives that encourage gamblers to keep gambling and if while you're still gambling you lose more than you win, no casino will make it a big issue that you're losing to much and so your account should be restricted. It's always an issue when they are at a disadvantage and they normally want to take out anyone that's winning more than they expected. At this point, this is the excuse they framed but it can be any other reason ranging from the accusation that you're using multiple account or that you've broken one of the don't of the casino. There are a lot of good casinos out thier you can opt in for when you experience something like this. Except you've actually broken any other laws of the casino if not, taking advantage of the system they've already designed for the benefit of her user is nothing close to abusing a casino bonus.



Title: Re: Using casino bonus frequently is an abused?
Post by: gunhell16 on September 19, 2024, 01:27:05 PM
I made a topic related this matter before on this thread https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5468782.msg62929040#msg62929040.

I forgot that I’m limited on using the bonus of this casino due busyness on other casino. I deposit and wait for the bonus that didn’t arrived so I contacted the support about this.

Surprisingly, they gave me a reason that I’m restricted to the casino bonus due to the bonus abused?! I understand if they will just restrict me to use this bonus because I’m winning using it but using the word bonus abused while you are just using it properly is a bit harsh.

Is it an abused if you use the bonus on your deposit. On this specific case, Winz.io has wheel that resets every 3 days so I made deposit every 3 days to avail this bonus. I don’t understand what part is the abused on this case.



In the first place, you already knew the consequences you could face because you knew what you were going to do was wrong, and yet you did it anyway because it seems that you take advantage of the bonus that you can get on winz.io mentioned.

We know that in all casinos they do not tolerate the creation of dummy accounts, where once they create one, your account will be blocked immediately. And even today, there are still
people doing that.


Title: Re: Using casino bonus frequently is an abused?
Post by: Cryptomultiplier on September 19, 2024, 01:29:23 PM
I made a topic related this matter before on this thread https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5468782.msg62929040#msg62929040.

I forgot that I’m limited on using the bonus of this casino due busyness on other casino. I deposit and wait for the bonus that didn’t arrived so I contacted the support about this.

Surprisingly, they gave me a reason that I’m restricted to the casino bonus due to the bonus abused?! I understand if they will just restrict me to use this bonus because I’m winning using it but using the word bonus abused while you are just using it properly is a bit harsh.

Is it an abused if you use the bonus on your deposit. On this specific case, Winz.io has wheel that resets every 3 days so I made deposit every 3 days to avail this bonus. I don’t understand what part is the abused on this case.


It almost want to look like the casino feels jealous for your brilliance in using their freebies to your advantage. Am sure if you had more losses, they would not have spoken to you, their esteemed customer, that way.
Still, you aren't the only customer they give bonus to, and that is very rude of them.

The success of anyone that spends their resources to gamble, not only in casino or sports based games, but in any venture and make profits is their strategy and one always has to plan after having an experience and have learnt their lessons, isn't it?



Title: Re: Using casino bonus frequently is an abused?
Post by: nara1892 on September 19, 2024, 01:30:44 PM
I think it seems like it's because you're winning too often using the deposit bonus every three days as you mentioned, and I think it's almost the same case as other restrictions that gamblers often experience such as withdrawal limits or win limits. And I really don't see that you're abusing the bonus because after all it's a bonus that has been provided by the casino which means gamblers are free to use it without breaking any rules, so it means that the only reason why there is a notification that you are abusing the bonus seems to be because you are winning too often with that option.


Title: Re: Using casino bonus frequently is an abused?
Post by: sunsilk on September 19, 2024, 02:09:14 PM
All of the casinos have their final words if it's about whether a customer is winning that much and the activity has been noticeable to be sequential and in a pattern.

That's why they have just come to the conclusion that you've abused their bonus because of how you'd deposit every 3 days for the bonus. They have all the right to say that and disqualify you from that bonus.

But, did they ban your account or only restrict you from participating in the bonuses?


Title: Re: Using casino bonus frequently is an abused?
Post by: Wapfika on September 19, 2024, 02:22:56 PM
It's their way of saying you win too much from our promotions, similar to how sportsbooks suddenly limit their winning players.

I also wouldn't say it's abuse when you're only taking advantage of the bonus, and i've seen other casinos limit players when they overuse their bonuses.

Casinos need to stem the bleeding at some point, they can't keep giving away profits all the time when it could hold them back from growing bigger.

Yeah but honestly, this would not be an abuse, he basically just got lucky if he actually won too much. The way everything is disigned you always need luck to be up, anything else is just imagination.
The only you an abuse would happen is when you have multiple accounts and or for example di arbitrage betting or whatever to clear a bonus.
So their wording in my opinion is very wrong and not the right explanation. But there is nothing a player can do since they always refer to the TOS and that you acknowledged them when registering.

Your explanation is very accurate and you are one of the user here that I acknowledged to provide informative comment based on actual casino experience. I don’t see any abused too on this case since the bonus was done properly according to the bonus design.

The restrictions is based on the casino operator assessment that player is not losing due to the bonus that resulted to restrictions which is the common action of casino towards lucky players.

Nothing to see here aside from profitable player being restricted to avoid potential more losses on the casino side.


Title: Re: Using casino bonus frequently is an abused?
Post by: Woodie on September 19, 2024, 02:28:43 PM
It's only abuse if it's against their terms and conditions because I have seen bonuses such as the reload bonus on a certain day to get x spins and as far as I see this..it's a marketing strategy to encourage players to deposit and play, but where this is not the case it be regarded as abuse.

But should for whatever reason you take alot of these promo's and be stopped by them, just don't play on such casino's!! I have had such an encounter with one of the casino's here on the forum and was told not to play from there, didn't waste time left those @£#&* Say no to casino's that are against winning.


Title: Re: Using casino bonus frequently is an abused?
Post by: Adbitco on September 19, 2024, 02:31:48 PM
I made a topic related this matter before on this thread https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5468782.msg62929040#msg62929040.

I forgot that I’m limited on using the bonus of this casino due busyness on other casino. I deposit and wait for the bonus that didn’t arrived so I contacted the support about this.

Surprisingly, they gave me a reason that I’m restricted to the casino bonus due to the bonus abused?! I understand if they will just restrict me to use this bonus because I’m winning using it but using the word bonus abused while you are just using it properly is a bit harsh.

Is it an abused if you use the bonus on your deposit. On this specific case, Winz.io has wheel that resets every 3 days so I made deposit every 3 days to avail this bonus. I don’t understand what part is the abused on this case.


It's not an abused because already you are qualify to receive such bonuses and for that you must use it to gamble or place bet. But if you constantly winning with the bonus then I am afraid they would look for an allegations against you to limit your activity and constant winning which they would like term it to be bonus misused or abused. However, did you try to read their ToS if it's started over there to limit people who are trying to abused their bonuses.


Title: Re: Using casino bonus frequently is an abused?
Post by: Agbe on September 19, 2024, 02:39:27 PM
I don't know what measure they have using it to call it abuse. If you deposit and you were given a bonus to play in the casino then I don't see anything abuse there. If they know that, customers or gamblers would abuse bonus then they should not give bonus because bonus is normally for gambling and when a gambler got bonus he must used it. As for me, they can only say, they can't give you bonus for now because you have been given enough bonus so for that reason you have been restricted for now. And when you  gamble for sometimes, they would unblock it again since you are gambler in the casino you are entitled to bonus too. These would have been the statement of the casino and not to block you. The simple answer to your question is, it is not abuse if you didn't violate their terms of service.


Title: Re: Using casino bonus frequently is an abused?
Post by: Solosanz on September 19, 2024, 03:06:38 PM
It's wrong to say "abuse" just because you manage to make money from the bonus, they should being honest to restrict your account because you win too much instead of bonus abused. The admin/customer service use wrong words, they should learn to use appropriate words.

In the first place, you already knew the consequences you could face because you knew what you were going to do was wrong, and yet you did it anyway because it seems that you take advantage of the bonus that you can get on winz.io mentioned.

We know that in all casinos they do not tolerate the creation of dummy accounts, where once they create one, your account will be blocked immediately. And even today, there are still
people doing that.
He actually follow the rules, there's nothing wrong to take advantage when they allow it.

@OP didn't create dummy accounts, he only make new deposits every 3 days in the same account.


Title: Re: Using casino bonus frequently is an abused?
Post by: aioc on September 19, 2024, 03:58:05 PM
I forgot that I’m limited on using the bonus of this casino due busyness on other casino. I deposit and wait for the bonus that didn’t arrived so I contacted the support about this.

Surprisingly, they gave me a reason that I’m restricted to the casino bonus due to the bonus abused?! I understand if they will just restrict me to use this bonus because I’m winning using it but using the word bonus abused while you are just using it properly is a bit harsh.
I'm not good at bonuses; I always lose when I'm using bonuses, but based on your post, I don't see anything wrong on that you did it it;; must have been a miscommunication or the support did not check your account history for him to say
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Is it an abused if you use the bonus on your deposit. On this specific case, Winz.io has wheel that resets every 3 days so I made deposit every 3 days to avail this bonus. I don’t understand what part is the abused on this case.
There is no abuse, Winz.io should explain how this becomes abuse, they are the only casino I've known that marked an account of bonus abuse that the player legally acquired or requested; if they cannot explain this better, then they should stop giving bonuses to their users.




Title: Re: Using casino bonus frequently is an abused?
Post by: Lanatsa on September 19, 2024, 05:57:11 PM
I made a topic related this matter before on this thread https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5468782.msg62929040#msg62929040.

I forgot that I’m limited on using the bonus of this casino due busyness on other casino. I deposit and wait for the bonus that didn’t arrived so I contacted the support about this.

Surprisingly, they gave me a reason that I’m restricted to the casino bonus due to the bonus abused?! I understand if they will just restrict me to use this bonus because I’m winning using it but using the word bonus abused while you are just using it properly is a bit harsh.

Is it an abused if you use the bonus on your deposit. On this specific case, Winz.io has wheel that resets every 3 days so I made deposit every 3 days to avail this bonus. I don’t understand what part is the abused on this case.


Casino businesses does really hate out those people who do make up some winnings on whatever bonuses that they would really be giving and since they are running up a business then they would really be able to hate up someone whose really that lucky that could be able to utilize those bonuses for their advantage and this is whats happening into you. The platform would really be having that kind of sort of solution on which
they would really be blocking you up on getting up bonuses because they do know that you could be able to win up all the time. So its not shocking that they would be having that kind of approach.

It might be sound harsh about using up the word "abuse" but they could give out names all the want. If you do find out that its a bit harsh for you then you could always opt on playing into other site
and they dont just care or simply the wanted it out to get rid of you.  :D,. They do hate up winners and we do know that once people be able to have that good winning and could be able to handle
it out to make withdrawals despite of those wager requirements or threshold. They would be happy on seeing you to go away and find for another place.


Title: Re: Using casino bonus frequently is an abused?
Post by: AmoreJaz on September 19, 2024, 06:34:44 PM
I forgot that I’m limited on using the bonus of this casino due busyness on other casino. I deposit and wait for the bonus that didn’t arrived so I contacted the support about this.

Surprisingly, they gave me a reason that I’m restricted to the casino bonus due to the bonus abused?! I understand if they will just restrict me to use this bonus because I’m winning using it but using the word bonus abused while you are just using it properly is a bit harsh.
I'm not good at bonuses; I always lose when I'm using bonuses, but based on your post, I don't see anything wrong on that you did it it;; must have been a miscommunication or the support did not check your account history for him to say
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Is it an abused if you use the bonus on your deposit. On this specific case, Winz.io has wheel that resets every 3 days so I made deposit every 3 days to avail this bonus. I don’t understand what part is the abused on this case.
There is no abuse, Winz.io should explain how this becomes abuse, they are the only casino I've known that marked an account of bonus abuse that the player legally acquired or requested; if they cannot explain this better, then they should stop giving bonuses to their users.

He needs to read the terms of the bonus itself as it may have indirectly stated on their terms that it can only be availed once. But if not, then, the casino really needs to explain to its users why they are limiting the use of bonus. If you don't want to agree with their terms, then, just move on to the next casino. But before availing another bonus again, scrutinize the terms if you can comply or not. Otherwise, don't force yourself to get such bonus. Because in most cases, the wagering requirements is quite high, and completing such requirement is difficult to achieve as you will already deplete your bankroll before you can complete its requirement.

Or maybe, there is a loophole in the terms, thus, the player saw it and took advantage about it. So the casino should be very comprehensive to their requirements in order for the players not to second guess their conditions or find a way how to get around it.


Title: Re: Using casino bonus frequently is an abused?
Post by: carlfebz2 on September 19, 2024, 07:27:51 PM
I forgot that I’m limited on using the bonus of this casino due busyness on other casino. I deposit and wait for the bonus that didn’t arrived so I contacted the support about this.

Surprisingly, they gave me a reason that I’m restricted to the casino bonus due to the bonus abused?! I understand if they will just restrict me to use this bonus because I’m winning using it but using the word bonus abused while you are just using it properly is a bit harsh.
I'm not good at bonuses; I always lose when I'm using bonuses, but based on your post, I don't see anything wrong on that you did it it;; must have been a miscommunication or the support did not check your account history for him to say
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Is it an abused if you use the bonus on your deposit. On this specific case, Winz.io has wheel that resets every 3 days so I made deposit every 3 days to avail this bonus. I don’t understand what part is the abused on this case.
There is no abuse, Winz.io should explain how this becomes abuse, they are the only casino I've known that marked an account of bonus abuse that the player legally acquired or requested; if they cannot explain this better, then they should stop giving bonuses to their users.

He needs to read the terms of the bonus itself as it may have indirectly stated on their terms that it can only be availed once. But if not, then, the casino really needs to explain to its users why they are limiting the use of bonus. If you don't want to agree with their terms, then, just move on to the next casino. But before availing another bonus again, scrutinize the terms if you can comply or not. Otherwise, don't force yourself to get such bonus. Because in most cases, the wagering requirements is quite high, and completing such requirement is difficult to achieve as you will already busted your bankroll before you can complete its requirement.
Yes, there should really be that a convincing reason on the casino itself on why they are really giving with those words. They cant really just say that a certain user is really that abusing. If it turns out
that this kind of reasoning is a bit shady then it would really be bring out some doubts into a certain platform or casino on which we know that this is something that should really be having those
valid reason on why is that they do have that kind of prohibition on someone who do win up on bonuses. They shouldnt be giving out bonuses if they would really be having this kind of approach.
They should really be clarifying up things in regarding about some questions on a certain user on what is that having those kind of abuse words on which its clearly this one isnt an abuse.


Title: Re: Using casino bonus frequently is an abused?
Post by: Mr.sprin on September 19, 2024, 07:40:59 PM
Yes, there should really be that a convincing reason on the casino itself on why they are really giving with those words. They cant really just say that a certain user is really that abusing. If it turns out
that this kind of reasoning is a bit shady then it would really be bring out some doubts into a certain platform or casino on which we know that this is something that should really be having those
valid reason on why is that they do have that kind of prohibition on someone who do win up on bonuses. They shouldnt be giving out bonuses if they would really be having this kind of approach.
They should really be clarifying up things in regarding about some questions on a certain user on what is that having those kind of abuse words on which its clearly this one isnt an abuse.

Yes, that's right, bro, most of the time there are certain provisions regarding the management of the bonus, sometimes we can't use it more than once, even though the bonus is clearly given to us, but it goes back to them, because their system is in control of everything, so we just Just do it and follow it, don't force yourself if there is a prohibition from them, because when we really force it all, it's actually us who are harmed, not them, so be careful and continue playing in a place that we think is comfortable and in accordance with the provisions set out. applies.


Title: Re: Using casino bonus frequently is an abused?
Post by: Ultegra134 on September 19, 2024, 07:46:33 PM
Even if OP does that then still the casino shouldn't limit his account because the bonus was available freely by the casino itself and there's nothing wrong in taking advantage of bonuses that casinos offer themselves.

I haven't used that casino for long time so I can't say that how they want users to take bonuses but for me it's some kind of abuse to limit a player in that way.
I don't see a problem with that either. If the casino is offering something, they should honor it; otherwise, they should state it in their terms of service or in a disclaimer that each user can redeem the said prize X times. If it's not stated, then I don't see an issue claiming it every three days. We shouldn't jump to conclusions without further details. Using multiple accounts to claim bonuses on each account separately is something that can be deemed abuse, as most if not all casinos state in their TOS that multiaccounting is not permitted.


Title: Re: Using casino bonus frequently is an abused?
Post by: Aanuoluwatofunmi on September 19, 2024, 08:00:27 PM
Surprisingly, they gave me a reason that I’m restricted to the casino bonus due to the bonus abused?! I understand if they will just restrict me to use this bonus because I’m winning using it but using the word bonus abused while you are just using it properly is a bit harsh.

I think making use of the bonus given to play games and winning continuously shouldn't be enough reason why they are going to restrict you from bonus, that means they might have suspected that you could probably be doing something else as against their policy, well, this is left for them to decide on the cognate reason for that, but as from your end, i don't think you have done anything that wrong to have deserved a bonus ban by all you have stated, i also don't understand if perpetual winning on bonus could lead to a bonus ban.


Title: Re: Using casino bonus frequently is an abused?
Post by: KTChampions on September 19, 2024, 08:02:57 PM
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Surprisingly, they gave me a reason that I’m restricted to the casino bonus due to the bonus abused?! I understand if they will just restrict me to use this bonus because I’m winning using it but using the word bonus abused while you are just using it properly is a bit harsh.

Is it an abused if you use the bonus on your deposit. On this specific case, Winz.io has wheel that resets every 3 days so I made deposit every 3 days to avail this bonus. I don’t understand what part is the abused on this case.

Seriously? You made a deposit every 3 days to get a bonus and you're asking if that's abuse? In my opinion, even if it is not written in their ToS (I am sure it is written somewhere), just using common sense you can understand that this is a practice that is harmful to the casino and they do not welcome it.
In any case, if they only limited you in the bonus (it is their free will to give it or not) you did not suffer in any way, right?


Title: Re: Using casino bonus frequently is an abused?
Post by: Bushdark on September 19, 2024, 08:07:48 PM
Surprisingly, they gave me a reason that I’m restricted to the casino bonus due to the bonus abused?! I understand if they will just restrict me to use this bonus because I’m winning using it but using the word bonus abused while you are just using it properly is a bit harsh.

I think making use of the bonus given to play games and winning continuously shouldn't be enough reason why they are going to restrict you from bonus, that means they might have suspected that you could probably be doing something else as against their policy, well, this is left for them to decide on the cognate reason for that, but as from your end, i don't think you have done anything that wrong to have deserved a bonus ban by all you have stated, i also don't understand if perpetual winning on bonus could lead to a bonus ban.
Making use of  bonus do give gamblers the boost to keep betting and want to play more because we all know that it's the fuel that keeps us going even if we are not making reasonable profits. Giving casino users bonus is one of the strategies many casinos use to attract more users to their platforms. I don't see tangible reasons when they have to restrict op from getting bonuses as one of their users.
I se this as an act of manipulation to make op leaves the casino maybe because he had been making consistent profits from the casino and the team keeps wondering how that has been possible especially when users are using the bonus privilege to win more money from them.


Title: Re: Using casino bonus frequently is an abused?
Post by: salad daging on September 19, 2024, 08:10:25 PM
Maybe your casino account is suspected because of suspicious activities by utilizing bonuses every time you deposit, even though there are no terms and conditions that are violated, the casino still has the right to it, so this bonus is too often used because every 3 days you do.

Actually I don't know what if you dispute about this bonus abuse, does the casino tolerate it or is it still abuse?

It should be if it is a bonus wheel for the public and any player who deposits too often should not be a problem, because the casino itself provides this bonus.


Title: Re: Using casino bonus frequently is an abused?
Post by: serjent05 on September 19, 2024, 08:14:33 PM
I made a topic related this matter before on this thread https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5468782.msg62929040#msg62929040.

I forgot that I’m limited on using the bonus of this casino due busyness on other casino. I deposit and wait for the bonus that didn’t arrived so I contacted the support about this.

Surprisingly, they gave me a reason that I’m restricted to the casino bonus due to the bonus abused?! I understand if they will just restrict me to use this bonus because I’m winning using it but using the word bonus abused while you are just using it properly is a bit harsh.

Is it an abused if you use the bonus on your deposit. On this specific case, Winz.io has wheel that resets every 3 days so I made deposit every 3 days to avail this bonus. I don’t understand what part is the abused on this case.

Funny how the support goes against their guideline when it is obvious that anyone that is qualified for the bonus can claim it.  I do not find it abuse to avail for it as per its requirement unless you are proven to be multi-accounting.  But I bet if you do multi-account, you could have been suspended, banned and fund confiscated.  It is obvious that you are following the terms and conditions of the casino.  I believe that the casino is just being dishonest.

It is possible that their system tagged you as winning too much and is deny of claiming some of the bonus, the casino is in a wrong here and they should fix this asap or they will lose good customer like you.


Title: Re: Using casino bonus frequently is an abused?
Post by: HONDACD125 on September 19, 2024, 08:18:48 PM
I’m pertaining to multiple casino account not multiple account on single casino. I’m very active on different casino. Maybe my wording is confusing so I edit it. Reading it multiple times surely sounds like that.

Not trying to prolong this speculation but I never have multiple account on single casino.

I understood that despite the wording because of what you were trying to convey through your post and the sentence in particular. Anyway, as everyone else has stated, casinos would never be straightforward about the reason why a gambler or a player is winning all the time or at least most of the time using the bonuses provided, so they have to come up with something that wouldn't make it look like they are stopping the gambler from gambling on their platform but make it sound like the gambler is at fault.

It's their business, they observed that it isn't going well for them since you were winning at least something with every bonus and they wouldn't like that for any gambler, so they decided to restrict you with a reasoning that would make you look bad and not them. Most casinos do that, and I don't blame them because they are just trying to stay profitable.


Title: Re: Using casino bonus frequently is an abused?
Post by: dothebeats on September 19, 2024, 08:23:17 PM
That's some bullshit if I see one, and I'd probably avoid playing in that casino ever again because they can make things up on the spot and I have nothing to do against it. I usually don't care about bonuses as long as the casino has a cashback feature that I can utilize. On a local casino I'm playing right now, I'm a VIP level 5 and they return 5% of my deposit daily so long as I meet the wager requirement. I play slots that has high RTP, and would usually make the wager requirement in just a short span of time with my balance still intact. Once that's done, I play baccarat or some other live casino games to win. This routine ensures me that I have that extra 5% for tomorrow that I can use for slot games, or live casinos for that matter.

Casinos restricting you from utilizing the bonuses they offer is just insane. Imagine having something good for your patrons and you intentionally decide that they can't use it just because they win too much. I'd turn my back in a heartbeat if it were to happen to me.


Title: Re: Using casino bonus frequently is an abused?
Post by: acroman08 on September 19, 2024, 08:38:11 PM
Is it an abused if you use the bonus on your deposit. On this specific case, Winz.io has wheel that resets every 3 days so I made deposit every 3 days to avail this bonus. I don’t understand what part is the abused on this case.
it's not an abuse and it should never be, that is as long as you don't break the casino's terms and conditions. From what I see from your case and from what I mentioned already in the previous thread you created, they don't want you using their bonus because you kept winning from it, you are bad business from them.


Title: Re: Using casino bonus frequently is an abused?
Post by: uneng on September 19, 2024, 09:05:54 PM
Is it an abused if you use the bonus on your deposit. On this specific case, Winz.io has wheel that resets every 3 days so I made deposit every 3 days to avail this bonus. I don’t understand what part is the abused on this case.
it's not an abuse and it should never be, that is as long as you don't break the casino's terms and conditions. From what I see from your case and from what I mentioned already in the previous thread you created, they don't want you using their bonus because you kept winning from it, you are bad business from them.
Yes, it doesn't sound like he is abusing from the casino's promotion. He just found a legal way to take advantage of the promotion at its maximum through depositing every 3 days, so he can access the bonus on every deposits he makes. If the casino is annoyed by gamblers doing this on their platform, they should be more careful when developing the terms of their promotions. It's not players' fault if the casino allowed them to access the bonus like OP did.

In every cases, advantages for customers or players don't last for too long in services in general. So better to enjoy it while it's disponible...


Title: Re: Using casino bonus frequently is an abused?
Post by: Juse14 on September 19, 2024, 09:11:30 PM
I made a topic related this matter before on this thread https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5468782.msg62929040#msg62929040.

I forgot that I’m limited on using the bonus of this casino due busyness on other casino. I deposit and wait for the bonus that didn’t arrived so I contacted the support about this.

Surprisingly, they gave me a reason that I’m restricted to the casino bonus due to the bonus abused?! I understand if they will just restrict me to use this bonus because I’m winning using it but using the word bonus abused while you are just using it properly is a bit harsh.

Is it an abused if you use the bonus on your deposit. On this specific case, Winz.io has wheel that resets every 3 days so I made deposit every 3 days to avail this bonus. I don’t understand what part is the abused on this case.

I get your frustration. It just doesn't feel fair when you do play by the rules, do use the bonus appropriately, and then have it labeled as "abusing it." In this case, it seems like you were just taking advantage of a legitimate bonus system if they have a rule that the bonus can be redeemed every 3 days.

Taking a bonus on a deposit as you did is not within what should be termed abuse provided one adheres to the terms and conditions of the casino. Maybe the term of “abuse” they use is too harsh, or inaccurate. It would be lovely if they more specifically explained what constitutes abuse in this case.

If a player communicates with the casino's support and does not reach an adequate solution, then it would also be fair to clarify further on what was not understood well and maybe look at other casinos offering bonuses with clearer and transparent rules.


Title: Re: Using casino bonus frequently is an abused?
Post by: Ojima-ojo on September 19, 2024, 09:14:56 PM
Sometimes it depends on the nature of the casino, but at most I always look away from bonuses to safe myself from the troubles that comes with them, sometimes the casino use bonuses as a form of a trapetfor the gamblers, but most times those casino have a long track record of unfriendly approach and even some have unresolved cases and accusations.

But to the few legit casinos that we have around, it is easy to detect them by the way their handles players funds both when the make direct deposits or claiming bonuses as long as their could afford to meet up with the requirements for the bonus, they won't be subjected to any form of other form of restrictions for no reasons.


Title: Re: Using casino bonus frequently is an abused?
Post by: Zoomic on September 19, 2024, 10:02:33 PM
I made a topic related this matter before on this thread https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5468782.msg62929040#msg62929040.

I forgot that I’m limited on using the bonus of this casino due busyness on other casino. I deposit and wait for the bonus that didn’t arrived so I contacted the support about this.

Surprisingly, they gave me a reason that I’m restricted to the casino bonus due to the bonus abused?! I understand if they will just restrict me to use this bonus because I’m winning using it but using the word bonus abused while you are just using it properly is a bit harsh.

Is it an abused if you use the bonus on your deposit. On this specific case, Winz.io has wheel that resets every 3 days so I made deposit every 3 days to avail this bonus. I don’t understand what part is the abused on this case.


Every casino has terms and conditions on how bonuses should be used by their customers. Maybe you should refer back to the terms and conditions to be sure you were actually using or claiming those bonuses properly. From your post, making deposits every three days just to claim bonuses seems like an abuse to me. Using strategies to exploit casino bonuses unfairly constitutes an abuse. Casinos have limits to bonuses gamblers can claim from them. No casino will sit back and watch a gambler use bonuses to gain more money from them. Next time, read and understand a casino's terms and conditions first before using any of their offers so you  will be careful not to violate those terms  and conditions.


Title: Re: Using casino bonus frequently is an abused?
Post by: GxSTxV on September 19, 2024, 10:14:10 PM
Well, as long as and since always most casino mention every time that they have the right to limit users, or restrict users from bonuses and promotional events, without any reason. I can’t call the casino is wrong doing this love because very most players are wanting to gamble without any risks, while gambling is all about risking and betting your deposit money, and if I remember winz.io casino has a really good bonus with very low risk since they are giving much free spins and free withdrawal money.

If you are a gambler, you won’t focus that much on promotions and bonuses, but if you are only behind bonuses to make a profit without taking risks which means is something against the industry of casinos where they are behind making profits from gamblers. What against home can produce losses to the casino, I don’t account and my deposits. However, saying the word abuse isn’t in the right place to be used.


Title: Re: Using casino bonus frequently is an abused?
Post by: peter0425 on September 19, 2024, 10:26:30 PM
Every casino has terms and conditions on how bonuses should be used by their customers. Maybe you should refer back to the terms and conditions to be sure you were actually using or claiming those bonuses properly.
If you find that what the casino did to you was unfair then you should be able to file a complaint. If certain clauses are not included in their terms & conditions by the time you complained then you may have a reason for this complaint because you can argue that you were not aiming for the bonuses and just wanting to deposit. If this abuse doesn’t exist in their t&c yet I am sure they would add it now.

It’s either the casino wasn’t clear with their rules or op didn’t just read what was prohibited and what was allowed in the platform. Honestly a lot of gamblers play with the rules of a casino. They find loopholes that benefits them and op’s fault is that he/she got caught by the casino. If you want to take advantage of these bonuses, at least be smart about it.


Title: Re: Using casino bonus frequently is an abused?
Post by: Forsyth Jones on September 19, 2024, 10:32:13 PM
First, you need to know the terms and conditions of this bonus, rules and limitations to see if you are breaking any rules. But if the bonus was made available by the casino and the user uses this bonus according to its availability in their account, what is the abuse in this? If the bonus made available to users is causing more harm than good to the casino to the detriment of users, then why not limit, suspend or reformulate the policy of this bonus?

I think that the casino claiming that the user is committing abuses by using too many bonuses only causes problems in the relationship between the customer and the casino.


Title: Re: Using casino bonus frequently is an abused?
Post by: $weetne$$ on September 19, 2024, 10:34:45 PM
Sometimes it depends on the nature of the casino, but at most I always look away from bonuses to safe myself from the troubles that comes with them, sometimes the casino use bonuses as a form of a trapetfor the gamblers, but most times those casino have a long track record of unfriendly approach and even some have unresolved cases and accusations.

Most bonuses are a trap because the casino use them to hold you with that bonus and you have to keep betting more which makes make you to lose more money than you will be capable of winning. Casino bonuses are nice when they do not have too many criteria before you can benefit from the bonuses. There are some casino that their bonus are not worth it because it is difficult to get to activate the bonus. Constant using casino bonus is not an abused, you got the bonuses legitimately because the casino wants to appreciate their active users or new users and you are not abusing the bonus but when you open many accounts to try to cheat the bonus by getting offered the same bonus on your many accounts. Using just one account and getting many bonus is not an abuse.


Title: Re: Using casino bonus frequently is an abused?
Post by: Orpichukwu on September 19, 2024, 10:45:37 PM
Yes, that's right, bro, most of the time there are certain provisions regarding the management of the bonus, sometimes we can't use it more than once, even though the bonus is clearly given to us, but it goes back to them, because their system is in control of everything, so we just Just do it and follow it, don't force yourself if there is a prohibition from them, because when we really force it all, it's actually us who are harmed, not them, so be careful and continue playing in a place that we think is comfortable and in accordance with the provisions set out. applies.
If the bonuses are supposed to be used just once, like some first-time deposit bonus, after that first time they should be aware that they have given that particular user a bonus to gamble with and not to repeat the bonus each time the person deposits after the said period of time.
 
If they don't want the person to use the bonus, they should stop giving it and don't just say the person abused what was freely given to him, or it's not even as if there was some sort of bug, unless there are some side of the story that the OP didn't share.


Title: Re: Using casino bonus frequently is an abused?
Post by: livingfree on September 19, 2024, 11:33:56 PM
Even if you will justify it that it is not an abused, you don't have the final verdict about it because the casino will still have the decision to make and they can easily just say that you have abused it even if you've done it twice or thrice.

I think there's a lack of highlight with these casino bonuses. Some may say that it's only limited to two to three claims per week or month otherwise, they'll flag it as an abuse.

There should be a clearer set of rules for the bonus claimers expect what they have to expect if they've got plans to abuse it or sees an opportunity to take advantage of the casino.


Title: Re: Using casino bonus frequently is an abused?
Post by: Slow death on September 19, 2024, 11:57:42 PM
Is it an abused if you use the bonus on your deposit. On this specific case, Winz.io has wheel that resets every 3 days so I made deposit every 3 days to avail this bonus. I don’t understand what part is the abused on this case.

Something that we must always take into consideration is that in all governments there are laws that we must comply with, in all companies there are TOS that we must comply with when we accept. Now when I look at the Winz.io TOS, I am not seeing them say that they have prohibited this type of thing, the Winz.io TOS can be read here:

https://winz.io/bonus-terms-and-conditions

Since it doesn't mention any kind of ban, then you're not wrong. They're the ones who are wrong. That's why you need to contact support and demand that they show you which part of the TOS you're breaking. If they can't show you, then you're facing a scam. In which the casino doesn't want to allow you to do this because they're afraid of you winning money at the casino. This behavior from the casino is bad. If they don't want you to do this, then they should put it in the TOS prohibiting it.


Title: Re: Using casino bonus frequently is an abused?
Post by: dansus021 on September 20, 2024, 03:41:41 AM
Using casino bonus frequently is an abused? What I just barely knew was that our account cant be put into freeze because of the use bonus. Last time I hit jackpot is from Wagabet they offer 10K satoshi Bitcoin and I can manage to withdraw it 300 USD at that time but after that I don't withdraw again the bonus because I lost in the last game.

I know that if we win lot of money from the casino can make the site hurt but bonus is the first thing they gave to user so i believe should be fine if we use lot of bonus and promotion
I don't believe that casino will limit player's based on frequent usage of bonus, this is because at some point bonuses are the sure ways to attract players to the site and if the player have seen that the bonuses gave them the chance to test out the site's, it becomes a thing of attraction to many of them and at that point continues playing on the site becomes the next thing,so saying that a casino blocked a player account because of bonus usage is somewhat not too clear to me and as a matter of fact we all need to be clear on what this really means since we already have the mindset that casino's are losing alot of money by giving out bonuses to both new and old players,but that been Said, alot of them also see that as a way of marketing the casino to reach new players and giving them the chance to play on that casinos, at some point,we need to all agree with the fact that gambling have to do with alot of thing's such as the activities of the gambler on the site and how is the manner of his previous transactions.

Although there are some other casinos that have some shady ways of operations and those in that category have been highly affected to the point that even without the player committing any crime, their can easily block such and account simply because their feels that the player is already winning too much, I don't know about winz.io and how their operates but quite a  good number of them have some bonus rules that can be unfriendly.

I agree with you frenn the casino makes bonus to a thing of attraction to many of them and at that point continue playing on the site and maybe for new user bonus can lure new user with huge jackpot. A couple month ago or a year ago I forgot I register to a new casino and just by doing register they offer me 3 bonus. crazy right. and they should not make limit on it


Title: Re: Using casino bonus frequently is an abused?
Post by: Shishir99 on September 20, 2024, 05:05:49 AM
I’m pertaining to multiple casino account not multiple account on single casino. I’m very active on different casino. Maybe my wording is confusing so I edit it. Reading it multiple times surely sounds like that.

Not trying to prolong this speculation but I never have multiple account on single casino.

Sorry for the confusion.
If you do not have multiple account on the same platform, then I don't think they can call it bonus abuse just because you are using the bonus regularly. But, you are not alone. I have seen the same case before on the forum. A long time ago, I saw one of my local said Bc game banned his account with dozens of active referrals just because the guy was using the promo code regularly that BC game publish on their Telegram channel. His point was, I make deposits and I love to get those bonuses. A casino cannot ban account just because the user have been using their bonus feature. I don't think it's an abuse if you are bonus without having a multiple account.


Title: Re: Using casino bonus frequently is an abused?
Post by: junder on September 20, 2024, 05:44:55 AM
Maybe your casino account is suspected because of suspicious activities by utilizing bonuses every time you deposit, even though there are no terms and conditions that are violated, the casino still has the right to it, so this bonus is too often used because every 3 days you do.

Actually I don't know what if you dispute about this bonus abuse, does the casino tolerate it or is it still abuse?

It should be if it is a bonus wheel for the public and any player who deposits too often should not be a problem, because the casino itself provides this bonus.
This is something I don't want to happen, so even though I find a casino that offers bonus features or promotions, I don't take them, all I do is bet with the amount of money I allocate because I have a friend who bets by taking the bonus feature or promotion previously offered by the casino and of course there are some additional conditions that must be met, when I watch my friend gamble and can't withdraw the profits that have been obtained even though it is twice the allocated capital, this is what makes me reluctant to take the bonus feature. Maybe it depends on the player too, because I think I'm not the only one who is reluctant to experience unwanted things like this. I myself think that the money I allocate can get profit if I'm lucky and vice versa even though we take the additional features provided by the casino, it doesn't guarantee that they can win.


Title: Re: Using casino bonus frequently is an abused?
Post by: bettercrypto on September 20, 2024, 05:50:24 AM
I made a topic related this matter before on this thread https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5468782.msg62929040#msg62929040.

I forgot that I’m limited on using the bonus of this casino due busyness on other casino. I deposit and wait for the bonus that didn’t arrived so I contacted the support about this.

Surprisingly, they gave me a reason that I’m restricted to the casino bonus due to the bonus abused?! I understand if they will just restrict me to use this bonus because I’m winning using it but using the word bonus abused while you are just using it properly is a bit harsh.

Is it an abused if you use the bonus on your deposit. On this specific case, Winz.io has wheel that resets every 3 days so I made deposit every 3 days to avail this bonus. I don’t understand what part is the abused on this case.


Every casino has terms and conditions on how bonuses should be used by their customers. Maybe you should refer back to the terms and conditions to be sure you were actually using or claiming those bonuses properly. From your post, making deposits every three days just to claim bonuses seems like an abuse to me. Using strategies to exploit casino bonuses unfairly constitutes an abuse. Casinos have limits to bonuses gamblers can claim from them. No casino will sit back and watch a gambler use bonuses to gain more money from them. Next time, read and understand a casino's terms and conditions first before using any of their offers so you  will be careful not to violate those terms  and conditions.

Yep, you said it right, whatever rules or terms a casino has, it cannot be broken by anyone; instead, it must be followed, or else if you don't follow and violate it, there will be consequences in the end, like what happened to Op where his account was given a restriction.

Then if we know that it is wrong, we should not do it; it is that simple to understand, and the bonus given by gambling is really limited because they are only doing it so that they can attract more gamblers to play on their platform.


Title: Re: Using casino bonus frequently is an abused?
Post by: FinneysTrueVision on September 20, 2024, 08:32:43 AM
Is it an abused if you use the bonus on your deposit. On this specific case, Winz.io has wheel that resets every 3 days so I made deposit every 3 days to avail this bonus. I don’t understand what part is the abused on this case.

There have been similar complaints against this casino. Even a neutral third party like AskGamblers could not find any justification for them accusing a player of abusing their bonuses.
https://www.askgamblers.com/casino-complaints/winz-io-account-disabled-due-to-abuse

If they don’t like how players are using this bonus they should maybe change their terms to make it clear what is considered abuse. It is not a good look when they restrict players that haven’t broken any rules but are only playing in a way they don’t like.


Title: Re: Using casino bonus frequently is an abused?
Post by: freedomgo on September 20, 2024, 08:45:04 AM
I don’t understand what part is the abused on this case.

That falls under abuse if they determine you’re exploiting their bonus offers. That’s how most casinos operate if they spot something, you’re lucky if you get the answer you want. Many casinos will use their TOS to avoid revealing the full details of the violation. In my opinion, only the casino can give you clarity on this. If we give an answer, it’s just pure speculation.


Title: Re: Using casino bonus frequently is an abused?
Post by: ultrloa on September 20, 2024, 09:58:57 AM
I don’t understand what part is the abused on this case.

That falls under abuse if they determine you’re exploiting their bonus offers. That’s how most casinos operate if they spot something, you’re lucky if you get the answer you want. Many casinos will use their TOS to avoid revealing the full details of the violation. In my opinion, only the casino can give you clarity on this. If we give an answer, it’s just pure speculation.

He just want to hear the opinion of the community here so its expect to receive different opinion regarding on this situation since its really questionable to experience that matter especially if you know that you didn't abuse their bonuses given. Its like they are doing something to stop him to win. Also its good that he share his story so we could figure out that this cases is happening on the particular casino he's pointing and maybe it help us to avoid or try learn something from the story he shared.

But you are also correct he should ask for more specific answer towards the abuse pointed out to him since for sure that a proper discussion towards their support will clarify everything doubts regarding on what they implement to certain users. But also I will not dare to gamble in that casino again if I experience this situation since its like they are controlling us especially if we are winning and try to limit on what we can get from them.


Title: Re: Using casino bonus frequently is an abused?
Post by: bubilas on September 20, 2024, 10:50:50 AM
I made a topic related this matter before on this thread https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5468782.msg62929040#msg62929040.

I forgot that I’m limited on using the bonus of this casino due busyness on other casino. I deposit and wait for the bonus that didn’t arrived so I contacted the support about this.

Surprisingly, they gave me a reason that I’m restricted to the casino bonus due to the bonus abused?! I understand if they will just restrict me to use this bonus because I’m winning using it but using the word bonus abused while you are just using it properly is a bit harsh.

Is it an abused if you use the bonus on your deposit. On this specific case, Winz.io has wheel that resets every 3 days so I made deposit every 3 days to avail this bonus. I don’t understand what part is the abused on this case.



I think it is completely unlawful to limit a gambler in bonuses, as they did with you. I understand that in the terms of bonus programs it is always written in small print that they themselves determine who and how much bonuses to give, while they reserve the right to exclude participants from bonus programs without explanation. But the casino provides bonuses to lure players and appear in a better light, so why do they show themselves as misers who do not want the gambler to win a few dollars because of these small bonuses?
After all, the casino has a lot of money.
To my opinion this is strange and ugly actions.


Title: Re: Using casino bonus frequently is an abused?
Post by: michellee on September 20, 2024, 11:13:52 AM
I don’t understand what part is the abused on this case.
That falls under abuse if they determine you’re exploiting their bonus offers. That’s how most casinos operate if they spot something, you’re lucky if you get the answer you want. Many casinos will use their TOS to avoid revealing the full details of the violation. In my opinion, only the casino can give you clarity on this. If we give an answer, it’s just pure speculation.
Maybe we think that we don't abuse their bonus offers or their system. But we don't know how they find out our mistake and considering that is abuse their bonus. Besides that, the casino can check their members log to find what is suspicious with the members.

He can asks for more details to the casino so he can get the right answer. As you said, we can only give an answer and that is only a speculation because we don't know what is wrong. By asking to the casino, he can get what he wants.

He can prevents that mistake in the future, not just in that casino but in all casino that he used to playing gambling. Casino rules will be different from the others so we must be careful.


Title: Re: Using casino bonus frequently is an abused?
Post by: summonerrk on September 20, 2024, 11:26:02 AM
I have a story about bonus money that happened to me when the first online casinos started to appear in my country where I lived. There was a forum similar to our forum, but about casinos and they paid bonus money. I managed to save up $ 100. It was hard but I did it. And then one day I just put everything on black on roulette. I won. And I saw that my balance doubled.
And in the evening I was blocked! I saw 0 on the balance.
After it, after that I never returned to this casino, because it is an outright fraud.


Title: Re: Using casino bonus frequently is an abused?
Post by: nara1892 on September 20, 2024, 11:35:12 AM
I made a topic related this matter before on this thread https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5468782.msg62929040#msg62929040.

I forgot that I’m limited on using the bonus of this casino due busyness on other casino. I deposit and wait for the bonus that didn’t arrived so I contacted the support about this.

Surprisingly, they gave me a reason that I’m restricted to the casino bonus due to the bonus abused?! I understand if they will just restrict me to use this bonus because I’m winning using it but using the word bonus abused while you are just using it properly is a bit harsh.

Is it an abused if you use the bonus on your deposit. On this specific case, Winz.io has wheel that resets every 3 days so I made deposit every 3 days to avail this bonus. I don’t understand what part is the abused on this case.



I think it is completely unlawful to limit a gambler in bonuses, as they did with you. I understand that in the terms of bonus programs it is always written in small print that they themselves determine who and how much bonuses to give, while they reserve the right to exclude participants from bonus programs without explanation. But the casino provides bonuses to lure players and appear in a better light, so why do they show themselves as misers who do not want the gambler to win a few dollars because of these small bonuses?
After all, the casino has a lot of money.
To my opinion this is strange and ugly actions.

If they are in a country where gambling is legal then yes the casino's policy may be against the law but if it is the other way around in the sense that they are in a country where gambling is prohibited then I don't think there is anything they can do because reporting the problem to the law would be a suicide idea anyway.
On the other hand I think the casino is a casino that is proven to be unfair, they limit the winnings of gamblers, even though it is clear that they are the ones who provide the bonus feature within a certain period of time which means that no matter how much the winnings are generated by the gamblers through the bonus it should not be a problem.

In the end I think it is better to avoid casinos like that if you really feel uncomfortable with all these unreasonable rules.


Title: Re: Using casino bonus frequently is an abused?
Post by: Fiatless on September 20, 2024, 11:45:10 AM
I have a story about bonus money that happened to me when the first online casinos started to appear in my country where I lived. There was a forum similar to our forum, but about casinos and they paid bonus money. I managed to save up $ 100. It was hard but I did it. And then one day I just put everything on black on roulette. I won. And I saw that my balance doubled.
And in the evening I was blocked! I saw 0 on the balance.
After it, after that I never returned to this casino, because it is an outright fraud.
You would have contacted the support service of the casino to enquire why your account was whipped out. The response would have given you evidence that they are fraudulent. Such casino needs to be reported to relevant authorities or casino review platforms. More people might become victims if they are not reported. That's why I am always careful when some unknown casinos come up with outrageous bonus offers.   

That falls under abuse if they determine you’re exploiting their bonus offers. That’s how most casinos operate if they spot something, you’re lucky if you get the answer you want. Many casinos will use their TOS to avoid revealing the full details of the violation. In my opinion, only the casino can give you clarity on this. If we give an answer, it’s just pure speculation.
I don't think OP abused the bonus. The casino placed some restrictions on the bonus he could receive maybe because he was winning consistently with it. I don't also blame these casinos because they are protecting the business from abuse and exploitation. But they shouldn't have called it bonus abuse because from what OP said he didn't do anything wrong.


Title: Re: Using casino bonus frequently is an abused?
Post by: gunhell16 on September 20, 2024, 12:24:01 PM
I don’t understand what part is the abused on this case.

That falls under abuse if they determine you’re exploiting their bonus offers. That’s how most casinos operate if they spot something, you’re lucky if you get the answer you want. Many casinos will use their TOS to avoid revealing the full details of the violation. In my opinion, only the casino can give you clarity on this. If we give an answer, it’s just pure speculation.

I agree with what you said, dude, because it's true that whatever those who give their comments on what happened to the OP say, it will only come out in the end that it's just speculation. And the clear answer can only be seen by OP Parin in the very management of the casino where he gambles.

Maybe the OP is just taking an opinion from what other members here in the forum will say, and then he will balance them so that he also knows what or where he should act correctly or not with what the communities that will join in the discussion will mention in this section.


Title: Re: Using casino bonus frequently is an abused?
Post by: Yucky on September 20, 2024, 12:48:01 PM
I made a topic related this matter before on this thread https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5468782.msg62929040#msg62929040.

I forgot that I’m limited on using the bonus of this casino due busyness on other casino. I deposit and wait for the bonus that didn’t arrived so I contacted the support about this.

Surprisingly, they gave me a reason that I’m restricted to the casino bonus due to the bonus abused?! I understand if they will just restrict me to use this bonus because I’m winning using it but using the word bonus abused while you are just using it properly is a bit harsh.

Is it an abused if you use the bonus on your deposit. On this specific case, Winz.io has wheel that resets every 3 days so I made deposit every 3 days to avail this bonus. I don’t understand what part is the abused on this case.


Casinos design their games in a way that people aren't meant to win that much. You are going to win, but maybe not frequently. The bonuses are meant to encourage people to play more, which is more profit for them. And then maybe win a certain amount.

But it seems you're good at what you were doing, and then you had more recorded success than lost games. To avoid this, casinos will flag you for bonus abuse.

To avoid this issue, I think casinos should set a weekly game limit and notify players when they are getting close to exhausting their bonus.

And as a player, I think you should take breaks while playing so you won't be flagged for anything. Also, to avoid bonus abuse flags, try different betting patterns, don't make consecutive deposits, try playing various games, and don't withdraw immediately after winning.

Lastly, don't take the casino's report personally so you'll be in the right mind to continue playing.


Title: Re: Using casino bonus frequently is an abused?
Post by: ethereumhunter on September 20, 2024, 12:56:54 PM
We as users still have many other options to get more real profits and don't have to rely on one casino site that provides bonuses. An interesting thought in terms of responding to bonuses from casinos which are often misused because the casinos explain the desire to loyal customers to achieve monthly or annual targets.
the things that are explained are like not being sure in our understanding of the meaning of what they are explaining. We have to learn from the casino here that we players are impossible to give wins to the same member no more than 2x and even that is very difficult to happen.
Yes, that is right because we can gets more bonuses from the other promotion that the casino will launch to their members. We don't have to think much about the bonus and don't have to chase every bonuses that we see because that will be difficult and we must calculates how much money we may use to get that bonuses. By trying to be wise when playing gambling will not make us to abuse the system of casino because we know that casino can do anything they can to their members who cheat the casino. Besides that, we may choose the bonus that we really can get and not trying to do something wrong that can cause us get the problem.


Title: Re: Using casino bonus frequently is an abused?
Post by: TopTort777 on September 20, 2024, 01:04:11 PM
dimonstration, have you tried asking how many bonus uses are considered as an abuse and how many it is allowed to do ? :D I expect that you are finished with that casino, so asking them such a provocative question can be reasonable and wont harm you.

If using deposit bonuses several times is an abuse, then what will be their thought on a faucet ? :D Greatest sin of all times?


Title: Re: Using casino bonus frequently is an abused?
Post by: stomachgrowls on September 20, 2024, 01:12:21 PM
We as users still have many other options to get more real profits and don't have to rely on one casino site that provides bonuses. An interesting thought in terms of responding to bonuses from casinos which are often misused because the casinos explain the desire to loyal customers to achieve monthly or annual targets.
the things that are explained are like not being sure in our understanding of the meaning of what they are explaining. We have to learn from the casino here that we players are impossible to give wins to the same member no more than 2x and even that is very difficult to happen.
Yes, that is right because we can gets more bonuses from the other promotion that the casino will launch to their members. We don't have to think much about the bonus and don't have to chase every bonuses that we see because that will be difficult and we must calculates how much money we may use to get that bonuses. By trying to be wise when playing gambling will not make us to abuse the system of casino because we know that casino can do anything they can to their members who cheat the casino. Besides that, we may choose the bonus that we really can get and not trying to do something wrong that can cause us get the problem.
Casinos are running up a business on which it would really be that understandable that they would really be having that kind of ways on how to make themselves to be more profitable on which making up some bonuses
are part of it. Its true that i dont see any interesting something about bonuses on which we know that wagering requirements are really that too high. There's no way that you could really be able to make yourself
that having that kind of advantage but rather its a pure disadvantage for most gamblers not unless if you would really be that extremely lucky then you might be able to make yourself having that kind of advantage but in overall its really that hard to believe that you could really be able to make yourself that easily get out with using up some bonuses.

The issue on here is that when house do prohibits you out on acquiring or getting or activating some bonuses just because you are winning too much, then thats something a very shady act that been doing by a certain platform or casino. If you dont really like them because of such act then you could always choose up other platforms on which you cant be able to face up such limitation or ban or prohibition.
In return, then you could really make out some complaints and telling to those things that they did so that the community would be wary.


Title: Re: Using casino bonus frequently is an abused?
Post by: Finestream on September 20, 2024, 02:36:52 PM
Lastly, don't take the casino's report personally so you'll be in the right mind to continue playing.

I think he’s fine; he’s just sharing his experience to get opinions from fellow gamblers. Some of us stay loyal to a casino because of the bonuses we can enjoy. In his case, he received an email saying that bonuses, lotteries, quests, and tournaments are no longer available to him. That’s a big deal, since it’s exciting to participate in those, and they’re perks for being loyal, especially if you’re a high-stakes gambler.

You can’t really blame him. Some gamblers even go the extra mile to meet requirements just for the bonus. If they get this kind of message after consistently gambling, they’ll definitely be disappointed. Using bonuses frequently isn’t abuse because it’s the casino that decides whether to give bonuses or not. True abuse would be using multiple accounts to exploit the bonuses.


Title: Re: Using casino bonus frequently is an abused?
Post by: panjul07 on September 20, 2024, 02:43:35 PM
Is it an abused if you use the bonus on your deposit. On this specific case, Winz.io has wheel that resets every 3 days so I made deposit every 3 days to avail this bonus. I don’t understand what part is the abused on this case.

It should not be an abuse if you do follow the rules but it can be an abuse if you break the rules (usually related to multi accounts).
The example you give, if you do it with 1 account only, it is surely not an abuse because the casino has already set the rules unless the casino has a limit on how many times you can spin the wheel during specific period of time.
I'm not familiar with winz.io since I've never played there IIRC but I've heard about them ofc.
You should ask them about what kind of abuse you did, they should be able to tell you specifically.


Title: Re: Using casino bonus frequently is an abused?
Post by: Wapfika on September 20, 2024, 03:00:53 PM

But it seems you're good at what you were doing, and then you had more recorded success than lost games. To avoid this, casinos will flag you for bonus abuse.


I think the argument here is the verdict of the casino to categorized this as an abused while the bonus is just being use the way it was designed. It can be only categorized as an abused if you bypass the restrictions set by the bonus terms which is not on this case.

Also the harsh punishment of removing all the loyalty benefits is a sign that OP commit a violation such as a real abused which is not makes this issue sounds like this casino is using the bonus abuse card just to get rid of user that making profit against them.

They are not operating fair if they will accused their player as an abuser just to remove all the player privileges to take advantage of the casino bonus system. Restrictions is much proper term.


Title: Re: Using casino bonus frequently is an abused?
Post by: acroman08 on September 20, 2024, 06:14:55 PM
Yes, it doesn't sound like he is abusing from the casino's promotion. He just found a legal way to take advantage of the promotion at its maximum through depositing every 3 days, so he can access the bonus on every deposits he makes. If the casino is annoyed by gamblers doing this on their platform, they should be more careful when developing the terms of their promotions. It's not players' fault if the casino allowed them to access the bonus like OP did.
exactly, that is why it is full BS that they deemed what OP is doing "abuse" They are the ones who made the system and the terms for that particular bonus and they don't want gamblers properly using it. but then again, caisnos are business if someone is continuously winning on one of their bonuses, they would want to put a stop to that even if they make up a BS excuse.


Title: Re: Using casino bonus frequently is an abused?
Post by: Koadharber on September 20, 2024, 06:33:48 PM
Yes, it doesn't sound like he is abusing from the casino's promotion. He just found a legal way to take advantage of the promotion at its maximum through depositing every 3 days, so he can access the bonus on every deposits he makes. If the casino is annoyed by gamblers doing this on their platform, they should be more careful when developing the terms of their promotions. It's not players' fault if the casino allowed them to access the bonus like OP did.
exactly, that is why it is full BS that they deemed what OP is doing "abuse" They are the ones who made the system and the terms for that particular bonus and they don't want gamblers properly using it. but then again, caisnos are business if someone is continuously winning on one of their bonuses, they would want to put a stop to that even if they make up a BS excuse.
They do hate winners or to those lucky fellas on which it is really that quite obvious on what they are really that trying out to show on here on which they will really be that indeed making up those
kind of BS excuse on which we know that this is really just that a non sense thing because they do obviously dont like into those people who do make cashouts with those bonus amounts on which it supposed
to be the opposite effect that they do always wanted on which people do get bust up while they are trying out to reach those bonuses threshold or terms and conditions. There are really those individuals
who are really that lucky when it comes into this aspect and thats why they dont have any choice but to make prohibitions on which these are obvious excuse.


Title: Re: Using casino bonus frequently is an abused?
Post by: KTChampions on September 20, 2024, 06:34:52 PM
There have been similar complaints against this casino. Even a neutral third party like AskGamblers could not find any justification for them accusing a player of abusing their bonuses.
https://www.askgamblers.com/casino-complaints/winz-io-account-disabled-due-to-abuse

If they don’t like how players are using this bonus they should maybe change their terms to make it clear what is considered abuse. It is not a good look when they restrict players that haven’t broken any rules but are only playing in a way they don’t like.

This is already a serious case. I hope the player at least got his deposit back. Judging by the fact that this happened in 2023, the casino nevertheless drew conclusions and now only limits the player's ability to use bonuses (which, in my opinion, is quite fair since the bonus is basically the goodwill of the casino and not an obligation) and does not block his account completely.


Title: Re: Using casino bonus frequently is an abused?
Post by: adzino on September 20, 2024, 06:52:51 PM
I made a topic related this matter before on this thread https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5468782.msg62929040#msg62929040.

I forgot that I’m limited on using the bonus of this casino due busyness on other casino. I deposit and wait for the bonus that didn’t arrived so I contacted the support about this.

Surprisingly, they gave me a reason that I’m restricted to the casino bonus due to the bonus abused?! I understand if they will just restrict me to use this bonus because I’m winning using it but using the word bonus abused while you are just using it properly is a bit harsh.

Is it an abused if you use the bonus on your deposit. On this specific case, Winz.io has wheel that resets every 3 days so I made deposit every 3 days to avail this bonus. I don’t understand what part is the abused on this case.


Winz.io and the casino you are trying to play at is not the same. Each casino has different rules.  Just because Winz has a bonus that resets every 3 days and allows you to avail that bonus every time, doesn't mean that the other casino will allow you to do the same. In fact most casinos will actually restrict you from claiming bonuses if you keep on winning from those bonus without risking anything. Read their terms. It is most likely written some where on their terms of service about the bonus abuse where just depositing to claim bonus is considered an abuse. If they completely restricted your account, you can ask them to return your funds. They usually return the deposited amount out of good will.


Title: Re: Using casino bonus frequently is an abused?
Post by: Lanatsa on September 20, 2024, 06:58:14 PM
I made a topic related this matter before on this thread https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5468782.msg62929040#msg62929040.

I forgot that I’m limited on using the bonus of this casino due busyness on other casino. I deposit and wait for the bonus that didn’t arrived so I contacted the support about this.

Surprisingly, they gave me a reason that I’m restricted to the casino bonus due to the bonus abused?! I understand if they will just restrict me to use this bonus because I’m winning using it but using the word bonus abused while you are just using it properly is a bit harsh.

Is it an abused if you use the bonus on your deposit. On this specific case, Winz.io has wheel that resets every 3 days so I made deposit every 3 days to avail this bonus. I don’t understand what part is the abused on this case.


Winz.io and the casino you are trying to play at is not the same. Each casino has different rules.  Just because Winz has a bonus that resets every 3 days and allows you to avail that bonus every time, doesn't mean that the other casino will allow you to do the same. In fact most casinos will actually restrict you from claiming bonuses if you keep on winning from those bonus without risking anything. Read their terms. It is most likely written some where on their terms of service about the bonus abuse where just depositing to claim bonus is considered an abuse. If they completely restricted your account, you can ask them to return your funds. They usually return the deposited amount out of good will.
Then why they had put it up in the first place? If they do have that kind of treatment on which putting up some deposit bonus but since you are winning up then they would be just tagging you that you've been abusing it? LOL! Being lucky is something that would be totally random and we do all know that but just like the rest been saying on here that casinos do really hate up to those gamblers who do often win despite of the disadvantages on where these bonuses is really that having but still they do able to manage to have some withdrawal on which we know that only a few could be able to get out. Most casinos would really be having that identical terms and conditions when it comes to this and it would really be that too odd if those things you do mentioned above is really that their true approach into those gamblers who do took the bonus
and ending up on getting called abuser.  :D

We do know that bonuses does have that kind of terms and conditions on threshold on which it would really be putting up gamblers into disadvantages. For someone who doesnt mind about on the wagering requirement and really just that want to make their capital even more bigger to make that having that longer duration or period for them to play then they would really be that a fan of making use of these bonuses just for that sake.If it turns out that they are making money with it or profits then this do basically shows up that there would really be those people who are lucky enough.


Title: Re: Using casino bonus frequently is an abused?
Post by: Akbarkoe on September 20, 2024, 07:05:14 PM
There have been similar complaints against this casino. Even a neutral third party like AskGamblers could not find any justification for them accusing a player of abusing their bonuses.
https://www.askgamblers.com/casino-complaints/winz-io-account-disabled-due-to-abuse

If they don’t like how players are using this bonus they should maybe change their terms to make it clear what is considered abuse. It is not a good look when they restrict players that haven’t broken any rules but are only playing in a way they don’t like.

This is already a serious case. I hope the player at least got his deposit back. Judging by the fact that this happened in 2023, the casino nevertheless drew conclusions and now only limits the player's ability to use bonuses (which, in my opinion, is quite fair since the bonus is basically the goodwill of the casino and not an obligation) and does not block his account completely.

Even though the bonus is a good intention of the casino, but it's true what he said, at least the casino provides clarity on the terms of the bonus, I actually it is an obligation of the casino to its users, because after all they promised the bonus in their promotion, and it deserves to be accounted for by every casino that promises bonuses.

Using this statement of misuse makes little sense if there are no rules, as the user is blamed for using the bonus he received, for us users certainly need an explanation of the rules regarding the bonus, so that we no longer abuse again in the future (casinos must be wise in this regard).


Title: Re: Using casino bonus frequently is an abused?
Post by: junder on September 21, 2024, 02:50:42 AM
Even though the bonus is a good intention of the casino, but it's true what he said, at least the casino provides clarity on the terms of the bonus, I actually it is an obligation of the casino to its users, because after all they promised the bonus in their promotion, and it deserves to be accounted for by every casino that promises bonuses.

Using this statement of misuse makes little sense if there are no rules, as the user is blamed for using the bonus he received, for us users certainly need an explanation of the rules regarding the bonus, so that we no longer abuse again in the future (casinos must be wise in this regard).
When a casino provides options or choices of promotions and bonuses that can be taken by players, of course they will maximize them by fulfilling what they have given to customers at the beginning, because it is indeed one of the conveniences for players so that they stay at their casino, because if they do not fulfill what they have given at the beginning to their customers, I think customers will feel disappointed with the possibility of being reluctant to visit and play again at the casino and of course it will reduce the reputation of the casino. In addition, I think the casino will provide an explanation that is detailed enough for its customers to understand, but sometimes there are people who do not understand enough to meet the requirements, I myself understand but with this understanding makes me reluctant to take or choose the bonus or promotion option, therefore I prefer to play with my own pure capital.


Title: Re: Using casino bonus frequently is an abused?
Post by: ethereumhunter on September 21, 2024, 06:13:25 AM
Casinos are running up a business on which it would really be that understandable that they would really be having that kind of ways on how to make themselves to be more profitable on which making up some bonuses
are part of it. Its true that i dont see any interesting something about bonuses on which we know that wagering requirements are really that too high. There's no way that you could really be able to make yourself
that having that kind of advantage but rather its a pure disadvantage for most gamblers not unless if you would really be that extremely lucky then you might be able to make yourself having that kind of advantage but in overall its really that hard to believe that you could really be able to make yourself that easily get out with using up some bonuses.

The issue on here is that when house do prohibits you out on acquiring or getting or activating some bonuses just because you are winning too much, then thats something a very shady act that been doing by a certain platform or casino. If you dont really like them because of such act then you could always choose up other platforms on which you cant be able to face up such limitation or ban or prohibition.
In return, then you could really make out some complaints and telling to those things that they did so that the community would be wary.
Casinos will give the promotion that benefits them because they know that from the exciting promotion, they will get more gamblers that will want to participate in the promotion. That means the casino will make a lot of money from that and that profit will be bigger if more gamblers can see the promotion. That is why they will share the promotion into their social medias to reach more gamblers to see the promotion and will go to their casino. That is why gamblers need to search more info about the promotion and read the requirement so they will not think that the casino is trap them with the promotion. The reputable casino will not trap their customer because they have a clear requirements that their customers to fills.

Casino will not allow their members to win many times so they will do something to hold you from participate or getting the bonuses. Maybe casino think that what you get from them is enough so they will allocate the bonus to the other gamblers. We really don't know how that can happen to us because we are just a gambler who playing gambling in their casino. It is our choice to playing gambling in certain casino but we have more option to playing gambling in the other casinos.


Title: Re: Using casino bonus frequently is an abused?
Post by: bubilas on September 21, 2024, 09:43:28 AM
I made a topic related this matter before on this thread https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5468782.msg62929040#msg62929040.

I forgot that I’m limited on using the bonus of this casino due busyness on other casino. I deposit and wait for the bonus that didn’t arrived so I contacted the support about this.

Surprisingly, they gave me a reason that I’m restricted to the casino bonus due to the bonus abused?! I understand if they will just restrict me to use this bonus because I’m winning using it but using the word bonus abused while you are just using it properly is a bit harsh.

Is it an abused if you use the bonus on your deposit. On this specific case, Winz.io has wheel that resets every 3 days so I made deposit every 3 days to avail this bonus. I don’t understand what part is the abused on this case.



I think it is completely unlawful to limit a gambler in bonuses, as they did with you. I understand that in the terms of bonus programs it is always written in small print that they themselves determine who and how much bonuses to give, while they reserve the right to exclude participants from bonus programs without explanation. But the casino provides bonuses to lure players and appear in a better light, so why do they show themselves as misers who do not want the gambler to win a few dollars because of these small bonuses?
After all, the casino has a lot of money.
To my opinion this is strange and ugly actions.

If they are in a country where gambling is legal then yes the casino's policy may be against the law but if it is the other way around in the sense that they are in a country where gambling is prohibited then I don't think there is anything they can do because reporting the problem to the law would be a suicide idea anyway.
On the other hand I think the casino is a casino that is proven to be unfair, they limit the winnings of gamblers, even though it is clear that they are the ones who provide the bonus feature within a certain period of time which means that no matter how much the winnings are generated by the gamblers through the bonus it should not be a problem.

In the end I think it is better to avoid casinos like that if you really feel uncomfortable with all these unreasonable rules.

Yes, and I told this case, which connected with me to all my friends who were at this casino. But this is an old case, and recently I have not encountered something like this. In general, I want to express my respect to all the casinos presented on our forum, because I received bonus deposits from three different casinos - Blackjack, casino500 and BC, and they all showed themselves excellent. It was a pleasant experience, and what surprised me was that the casinos did not even allow you to play with bonus money, but you could immediately withdraw it! I did not expect that bonus programs in crypto casinos are now so loyal to customers.


Title: Re: Using casino bonus frequently is an abused?
Post by: Odusko on September 21, 2024, 01:13:29 PM
Sometimes it depends on the nature of the casino, but at most I always look away from bonuses to safe myself from the troubles that comes with them, sometimes the casino use bonuses as a form of a trapetfor the gamblers, but most times those casino have a long track record of unfriendly approach and even some have unresolved cases and accusations.

Most bonuses are a trap because the casino use them to hold you with that bonus and you have to keep betting more which makes make you to lose more money than you will be capable of winning. Casino bonuses are nice when they do not have too many criteria before you can benefit from the bonuses. There are some casino that their bonus are not worth it because it is difficult to get to activate the bonus. Constant using casino bonus is not an abused, you got the bonuses legitimately because the casino wants to appreciate their active users or new users and you are not abusing the bonus but when you open many accounts to try to cheat the bonus by getting offered the same bonus on your many accounts. Using just one account and getting many bonus is not an abuse.
We can't deny the fact that bonuses are some form of trap for gambler's because in a way, the casino only give you bonuses when you are about to start using their site, and also give you bonuses when their feels you have spent enough money on the casino and their feels you may want to leave the casino, and also casinos tend to change their bonus rule so easily and that is not how it surpose to be because an agreement is an agreement once a rule is made, there is no point going back to it anymore.

And once the rules is violated it means an abuse on the side of the gambler because at that point he will definitely feels cheated, so I have to deviate from the both of you in a bit since looking at things, there are time's that you may likely call the bonus a trap and at other times you may see those bonuses as savior, but the overall benefactors of those bonuses is the casino, since you will still have to gamble all the bonuses on their platform and without the ability to take them out of the platform, most cryptocurrency casinos have some rules in place and at some level those rules may be highly targeted to some level of gambler's most especially the high roller clients because that is where the money is for the casino.

But also lastly, in all, the most comfortable level of bonuses are those that are given without any form of conditions, at least no condition on high wager requirements on the bonuses this is some how easier to control.


Title: Re: Using casino bonus frequently is an abused?
Post by: Dr.Bitcoin_Strange on September 21, 2024, 01:22:21 PM
If actually this was a very serious case of abuse, then your account must have been restricted  but if you didn't get ban or locked out of your account, I think you don't have to worry too much because it might not really be that you are misusing the bonus but there could be something else, like misuse of their own English.  For what I understand bonus can not be misused, so it actually depends on what they mean by that.


Title: Re: Using casino bonus frequently is an abused?
Post by: Zadicar on September 21, 2024, 01:27:00 PM
Even though the bonus is a good intention of the casino, but it's true what he said, at least the casino provides clarity on the terms of the bonus, I actually it is an obligation of the casino to its users, because after all they promised the bonus in their promotion, and it deserves to be accounted for by every casino that promises bonuses.

Using this statement of misuse makes little sense if there are no rules, as the user is blamed for using the bonus he received, for us users certainly need an explanation of the rules regarding the bonus, so that we no longer abuse again in the future (casinos must be wise in this regard).
When a casino provides options or choices of promotions and bonuses that can be taken by players, of course they will maximize them by fulfilling what they have given to customers at the beginning, because it is indeed one of the conveniences for players so that they stay at their casino, because if they do not fulfill what they have given at the beginning to their customers, I think customers will feel disappointed with the possibility of being reluctant to visit and play again at the casino and of course it will reduce the reputation of the casino. In addition, I think the casino will provide an explanation that is detailed enough for its customers to understand, but sometimes there are people who do not understand enough to meet the requirements, I myself understand but with this understanding makes me reluctant to take or choose the bonus or promotion option, therefore I prefer to play with my own pure capital.
On the moment that people or gamblers would really be disappointed then they would really be leaving out the casino and would look for another one. Just like into this case on which a certain
user hadnt been able to acquire or activate some bonuses just because he do able to win up and telling that he's been abusing it? Even myself will really be finding this to be shady
and this is something that you would really be having the rights on going or playing into other platform on which we know that when it comes to this then you do have the choice.
It is really just that too shady if they will really be having that kind of claims about abuse without really giving out the real reason on whats the abuse is all about?


Title: Re: Using casino bonus frequently is an abused?
Post by: KTChampions on September 21, 2024, 03:57:37 PM
This is already a serious case. I hope the player at least got his deposit back. Judging by the fact that this happened in 2023, the casino nevertheless drew conclusions and now only limits the player's ability to use bonuses (which, in my opinion, is quite fair since the bonus is basically the goodwill of the casino and not an obligation) and does not block his account completely.

Even though the bonus is a good intention of the casino, but it's true what he said, at least the casino provides clarity on the terms of the bonus, I actually it is an obligation of the casino to its users, because after all they promised the bonus in their promotion, and it deserves to be accounted for by every casino that promises bonuses.

Using this statement of misuse makes little sense if there are no rules, as the user is blamed for using the bonus he received, for us users certainly need an explanation of the rules regarding the bonus, so that we no longer abuse again in the future (casinos must be wise in this regard).

It is impossible to describe in detail all the cases that can occur, and even if it were possible, several days would not be enough for you to study such a ToS. For this case, any ToS always states that “the organization reserves the right to resolve disputes not described in the ToS.”
Personally, I have enough common sense to understand that a deposit every 3 days for the sake of a bonus will be considered abuse.


Title: Re: Using casino bonus frequently is an abused?
Post by: fullhdpixel on September 21, 2024, 06:51:00 PM
The thing is that frequent use of bonuses is something I really like and I can spend more time on it to get additional spins or increase our first deposit and so on. Obviously, the casino does this to attract new users, and of course they don't like it when the same players start using it, especially old ones and those who don't bet too much. But what's important is whether it is written in the rules that you can't use it multiple times. I understand that they will write that you can't abuse these promotions in the rules, but then let them write about it in the next line and in capital letters, then it will be clear that they feel sorry to give away part of the money for this.
But who wouldn't like them? I'm only referring to the literal bonus where it is given freely or without any catch or strings attached because I'm also aware that many casino bonuses are like that. It is like they are misleading their users. They are only lucky if they still can get a lot of customers but this can be because they still have something good (for real) to offer. Frequent use of bonus is not a form of abuse as long as we are following the rules properly.

Bonuses can come in many forms and it wasn't only the newbie users are rewarded but also and most importantly are the loyal users who keeps on coming back on the site because they are mainly the ones who bring a life to the casino. So, there is no need for a new user to abuse and avail the same type of bonus. They are only putting their accounts and funds at risk for it. I think most of us don't have an eye problem for us not read the rules clearly, so I think there is no need for them to capitalize it or highlight it.

Anyways, I haven't seen one who does that. That is only exaggerating. Gamblers must be on the right age and on their right minds to know what is wrong and what is right, so even if we say that there are no rules written about it, it does not mean that we will now proceed on abusing it.


Title: Re: Using casino bonus frequently is an abused?
Post by: nara1892 on September 21, 2024, 07:53:39 PM
If actually this was a very serious case of abuse, then your account must have been restricted  but if you didn't get ban or locked out of your account, I think you don't have to worry too much because it might not really be that you are misusing the bonus but there could be something else, like misuse of their own English.  For what I understand bonus can not be misused, so it actually depends on what they mean by that.

Yes, what you said makes sense that if an account user is identified as committing a violation or when a gambler is notified that they have committed a serious violation, then the casino should block or limit their account at least for a certain period of time. And if your account can still be used until now, then it clearly means that there is no serious problem, or there is no serious violation.

And in this case I think it makes no sense to say that a gambler has abused the bonus, because after all it is a facility provided by the casino, meaning it is the right of a gambler and they are free to use the bonus for anything and in any way.


Title: Re: Using casino bonus frequently is an abused?
Post by: Akbarkoe on September 21, 2024, 08:33:04 PM

Even though the bonus is a good intention of the casino, but it's true what he said, at least the casino provides clarity on the terms of the bonus, I actually it is an obligation of the casino to its users, because after all they promised the bonus in their promotion, and it deserves to be accounted for by every casino that promises bonuses.

Using this statement of misuse makes little sense if there are no rules, as the user is blamed for using the bonus he received, for us users certainly need an explanation of the rules regarding the bonus, so that we no longer abuse again in the future (casinos must be wise in this regard).

It is impossible to describe in detail all the cases that can occur, and even if it were possible, several days would not be enough for you to study such a ToS. For this case, any ToS always states that “the organization reserves the right to resolve disputes not described in the ToS.”
Personally, I have enough common sense to understand that a deposit every 3 days for the sake of a bonus will be considered abuse.

If that is the case then in the phrase “bonus abuse” and any attempt to get bonuses consistently like that can be said to be unwritten rules, but this is difficult to accept for those who do not understand it and maybe even those who are provoked can say the casino is a scam, it is true that this will be difficult to explain in detail for every casino that has such a bonus mechanism, but it is good that they have to provide an explanation, and past problems can be ignored because of the updated rules.


Title: Re: Using casino bonus frequently is an abused?
Post by: Sandra_hakeem on September 21, 2024, 10:59:54 PM
Is it an abused if you use the bonus on your deposit. On this specific case, Winz.io has wheel that resets every 3 days so I made deposit every 3 days to avail this bonus. I don’t understand what part is the abused on this case.
As long as you didn't utilize it the wrong way, why should it be labeled an abuse? Everything depends on how you go about them... But, I get it -- the casinos may have set a restriction to evade the frequent use of the bonus option.... Is this about WINZ.io?

Moreso, i don't even find too much of an interest in their bonuses whatsoever... I can't remember when I claimed any bonuses aside the strater packages so go ahead and have fun with the little you deposit man.
Yes, what you said makes sense that if an account user is identified as committing a violation[...]
You can't violate what hasn't been made a policy; any rule that wasn't on the TOS during the registration process, or updated prior to the mishap doesn't count as violation if done by a user. These casinos go too far with it sometimes that they lock your account without giving you an underlying reason


Title: Re: Using casino bonus frequently is an abused?
Post by: mirakal on September 21, 2024, 11:59:26 PM
I can't tell it's abused too since you met the requirements and you pay the price before you claimed it. It's just unfortunate for them if you end up winning on their bonus. But I clearly understand if they'll restrict you from claiming your bonuses after your consistent winnings because that would only mean, putting the casino bonuses funds at stake of losing. Although bonuses are part of their strategy to attract more winnings on their part, but they won't also allow us taking all the advantage and win all those bonuses.


Title: Re: Using casino bonus frequently is an abused?
Post by: Jemzx00 on September 22, 2024, 01:00:56 AM
I forgot that I’m limited on using the bonus of this casino due busyness on other casino. I deposit and wait for the bonus that didn’t arrived so I contacted the support about this.

Surprisingly, they gave me a reason that I’m restricted to the casino bonus due to the bonus abused?! I understand if they will just restrict me to use this bonus because I’m winning using it but using the word bonus abused while you are just using it properly is a bit harsh.
Based on this, you may have not violated or abused the bonus being provided but rather utilize it to gain more advantage on your chances of winning.
It may be harsh to hear that they're think that you're abusing their bonuses but looking into their perspective, it may look like it especially with your luck and continuous winnings.

Is it an abused if you use the bonus on your deposit. On this specific case, Winz.io has wheel that resets every 3 days so I made deposit every 3 days to avail this bonus. I don’t understand what part is the abused on this case.
Per policy, it may not be an abused as it's given that there's a limit for bonuses which is the 3 days cooldown but if you only play and deposit to always take advantage of the bonuses and more likely win then it may look like an abused though allowed with the requirements assigned, it's more like a loophole or something.


Title: Re: Using casino bonus frequently is an abused?
Post by: Julien_Olynpic on September 22, 2024, 05:26:27 AM
Bonuses are simply one of the marketing tools for casinos. Casinos probably conduct marketing research to find out the effectiveness of their promotions and bonuses, among other things. It is important for them that players use bonuses as intended. As a rule, bonuses are a one-time promotion. Usually, these are welcome bonuses for registration. Often, these bonuses need to be worked off. But in general, casinos consider bonus hunting as a negative phenomenon. This is money going down the drain, essentially a direct loss for the casino. It is not surprising that casinos fight bonus hunters with all available means.


Title: Re: Using casino bonus frequently is an abused?
Post by: carlfebz2 on September 22, 2024, 05:44:32 AM
Bonuses are simply one of the marketing tools for casinos. Casinos probably conduct marketing research to find out the effectiveness of their promotions and bonuses, among other things. It is important for them that players use bonuses as intended. As a rule, bonuses are a one-time promotion. Usually, these are welcome bonuses for registration. Often, these bonuses need to be worked off. But in general, casinos consider bonus hunting as a negative phenomenon. This is money going down the drain, essentially a direct loss for the casino. It is not surprising that casinos fight bonus hunters with all available means.
Bonuses and promotions are really that a tool on which this would really be hooking up gamblers to play into the site. They would really be that making it appealing as much as possible on which we know
that when it comes to this then gamblers are really that a huge disadvantage but there are really people who are really that able to get out and make withdrawal if they are lucky enough.
On the moment that you would really be trying out to make multiple accounts to abuse bonuses then this is literally can be called abuse, but if we do speak about activating bonuses and
making a win from it then why would the heck the house telling that its been abused? Why they cant just accept that there are gamblers or players who are really that lucky enough to reach
those threshold? Just like the rest been saying that this is really that a shady act.


Title: Re: Using casino bonus frequently is an abused?
Post by: Dunamisx on September 22, 2024, 05:57:27 AM
Well, as to the ethics of some gambling platform, they will count on some other things which we may not see as an abuse a punishable act when we do them, though to us, it may not look absurd or bad, while on them, they may try to see it an a means to create a loophole on their own system setup, that is why gambling in so many cases couldn't be fully predicted because the two ends may not really meet together between the gambler and the casino.


Title: Re: Using casino bonus frequently is an abused?
Post by: Samlucky O on September 22, 2024, 06:12:54 AM
I made a topic related this matter before on this thread https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5468782.msg62929040#msg62929040.

Surprisingly, they gave me a reason that I’m restricted to the casino bonus due to the bonus abused?! I understand if they will just restrict me to use this bonus because I’m winning using it but using the word bonus abused while you are just using it properly is a bit harsh.

Is it an abused if you use the bonus on your deposit. On this specific case, Winz.io has wheel that resets every 3 days so I made deposit every 3 days to avail this bonus. I don’t understand what part is the abused on this case.
For me the betting site I have used previously only gave a welcome bonus once in registration, after that you can't be able to recieve another bonus except you open another account for such purpose, which of course is not advisable. And I thought abuse of bonus only happens when a person opens countless accounts for the sake of getting welcome bonus. But this your case looks different and I think Maybe you often fund your account specifically for the bonus and after usage you don't fund regularly to play game, but only focusing on the 3 days interval bonus. And they have noticed you are cheating them or probably you are using their site only because of their bonus.


Title: Re: Using casino bonus frequently is an abused?
Post by: alastantiger on September 22, 2024, 06:24:37 AM
Bonuses are simply one of the marketing tools for casinos. Casinos probably conduct marketing research to find out the effectiveness of their promotions and bonuses, among other things. It is important for them that players use bonuses as intended. As a rule, bonuses are a one-time promotion. Usually, these are welcome bonuses for registration. Often, these bonuses need to be worked off. But in general, casinos consider bonus hunting as a negative phenomenon. This is money going down the drain, essentially a direct loss for the casino. It is not surprising that casinos fight bonus hunters with all available means.

Casino have to fight them because if they allowed them to continue, they're going to be spending too much and not getting a better value for the money that they're spending. Bonuses are supposed to attract new customers to the casino. Both the old ones that haven't used the casino for a long time are suppose to be attracted with the bonus and they begin to gamble again but for people that don't gamble but are only interested in hunting for bonus, the casino are going to close down their accounts when they get found. It isn't wrong for casino to do this because this hunters aren't useful to them. Depending on bonus shouldn't be our concern as gamblers, the games to make money is already there and when we gamble we can become lucky and get victorious. For people that gamble often, they're going to get the privilege to be eligible for more bonus and that's the best way to get the bonus and not by cheating.


Title: Re: Using casino bonus frequently is an abused?
Post by: fruktik on September 22, 2024, 06:51:05 AM
I think making use of the bonus given to play games and winning continuously shouldn't be enough reason why they are going to restrict you from bonus, that means they might have suspected that you could probably be doing something else as against their policy, well, this is left for them to decide on the cognate reason for that, but as from your end, i don't think you have done anything that wrong to have deserved a bonus ban by all you have stated, i also don't understand if perpetual winning on bonus could lead to a bonus ban.
Have you ever thought that there is simply a separate limit on bonuses for each player? Yes, this is also practiced and quite often. There is no need to look for pitfalls where they simply do not exist. Everything is quite simple and logical, if you look from the outside. Well, the casino cannot give bonuses so often. There is a limit to everything.


Title: Re: Using casino bonus frequently is an abused?
Post by: Hatchy on September 22, 2024, 07:29:09 AM
I made a topic related this matter before on this thread https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5468782.msg62929040#msg62929040.

I forgot that I’m limited on using the bonus of this casino due busyness on other casino. I deposit and wait for the bonus that didn’t arrived so I contacted the support about this.

Surprisingly, they gave me a reason that I’m restricted to the casino bonus due to the bonus abused?! I understand if they will just restrict me to use this bonus because I’m winning using it but using the word bonus abused while you are just using it properly is a bit harsh.

Is it an abused if you use the bonus on your deposit. On this specific case, Winz.io has wheel that resets every 3 days so I made deposit every 3 days to avail this bonus. I don’t understand what part is the abused on this case.



If you are using same casino account to get all the bonuses then I don't see it as an abuse or anything I guess the casino just want to give you a reason to stop the bonuses.. then on the other hand if I'm correct you said on your post that you have many casino accounts right? Do you continue to open new one because of the deposit bonus? If yes then you might been the cause of your restrictions.. if all these accounts you open are being tagged to the same user the casino will see the deposit bonus as a way to cheat the system. I guess that should be why they might be giving you the abuse tag.


Title: Re: Using casino bonus frequently is an abused?
Post by: Taskford on September 22, 2024, 09:56:45 AM
I made a topic related this matter before on this thread https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5468782.msg62929040#msg62929040.

I forgot that I’m limited on using the bonus of this casino due busyness on other casino. I deposit and wait for the bonus that didn’t arrived so I contacted the support about this.

Surprisingly, they gave me a reason that I’m restricted to the casino bonus due to the bonus abused?! I understand if they will just restrict me to use this bonus because I’m winning using it but using the word bonus abused while you are just using it properly is a bit harsh.

Is it an abused if you use the bonus on your deposit. On this specific case, Winz.io has wheel that resets every 3 days so I made deposit every 3 days to avail this bonus. I don’t understand what part is the abused on this case.



If you are using same casino account to get all the bonuses then I don't see it as an abuse or anything I guess the casino just want to give you a reason to stop the bonuses.. then on the other hand if I'm correct you said on your post that you have many casino accounts right? Do you continue to open new one because of the deposit bonus? If yes then you might been the cause of your restrictions.. if all these accounts you open are being tagged to the same user the casino will see the deposit bonus as a way to cheat the system. I guess that should be why they might be giving you the abuse tag.

Exactly and limiting his capability to avail those bonuses is like stopping him to win something from them that's why its really so shady on why the casino tag him as abuser especially that they are the one who give that bonuses to their players in first place. Its like they are using this to make their casino appealing to people and if they see that there are players winning then they limit their capabilities to win.

So in that case the same with other people say I provably quit on that casino and warn my friends not to gamble there. Since those scenario is frustrating and kinda crazy especially if you always look forward to follow their rules.

If they found OP cheating those bonuses thru multiple account using maybe there's valid reason on the casino side on why they do that.


Title: Re: Using casino bonus frequently is an abused?
Post by: Dr.Bitcoin_Strange on September 22, 2024, 10:29:31 AM
If actually this was a very serious case of abuse, then your account must have been restricted  but if you didn't get ban or locked out of your account, I think you don't have to worry too much because it might not really be that you are misusing the bonus but there could be something else, like misuse of their own English.  For what I understand bonus can not be misused, so it actually depends on what they mean by that.

And in this case I think it makes no sense to say that a gambler has abused the bonus, because after all it is a facility provided by the casino, meaning it is the right of a gambler and they are free to use the bonus for anything and in any way.

Like someone already stated that the reason why the casino said it's an abuse could be because the OP have been using the bonus more frequently than the way he's supposed to. I actually gave it a thought yesterday and I think that must have been the cause.


Title: Re: Using casino bonus frequently is an abused?
Post by: panjul07 on September 22, 2024, 10:52:07 AM
Like someone already stated that the reason why the casino said it's an abuse could be because the OP have been using the bonus more frequently than the way he's supposed to. I actually gave it a thought yesterday and I think that must have been the cause.

How can a casino say that a player use the bonus more than he's supposed to while there is a clear limit on how many times a user can claim the bonus?
It would not be fair for the players if players take the bonus frequently as what is provided by the casino and then the players alleged to be abusing the bonus.
The case also specific where deposit is required, it can be different thing if the bonus is 100% free then lets say players only claim the bonus all the time without making any deposit (in this case I would be agreed if taking bonus only without any intention to make deposit is considered as abuse).


Title: Re: Using casino bonus frequently is an abused?
Post by: bettercrypto on September 22, 2024, 11:10:51 AM
I made a topic related this matter before on this thread https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5468782.msg62929040#msg62929040.

I forgot that I’m limited on using the bonus of this casino due busyness on other casino. I deposit and wait for the bonus that didn’t arrived so I contacted the support about this.

Surprisingly, they gave me a reason that I’m restricted to the casino bonus due to the bonus abused?! I understand if they will just restrict me to use this bonus because I’m winning using it but using the word bonus abused while you are just using it properly is a bit harsh.

Is it an abused if you use the bonus on your deposit. On this specific case, Winz.io has wheel that resets every 3 days so I made deposit every 3 days to avail this bonus. I don’t understand what part is the abused on this case.



If you create dummy accounts because you want to avail the bonus that the casino has, it can be said that it is abuse. Even if we say that you will use different names and different IDs when the casino demands KYC.

That's why we know that there are casinos that are also good at tracking the cheating activities of their gamblers on their platform. And often what they base it on is the one IP address that is used, especially if only one wifi is used that is logged in to their casino platform.


Title: Re: Using casino bonus frequently is an abused?
Post by: Peanutswar on September 22, 2024, 11:34:15 AM
Those accounts are just possibly get flags once they detect multiple accounts in the same IP address that are keep using the feature of bonuses of their platform, but if you are just using a one account it seems they just seen that you are continuously using their platform and bonuses and they think its might an abuse. IMHO its okay to use their bonuses because its their featured promoted to get more engagement but its better too if they clarify that there's a limit at least. So if they prevevent like this it seems like they don't want to push through their promotional strategy.


Title: Re: Using casino bonus frequently is an abused?
Post by: ethereumhunter on September 22, 2024, 12:30:34 PM
If you create dummy accounts because you want to avail the bonus that the casino has, it can be said that it is abuse. Even if we say that you will use different names and different IDs when the casino demands KYC.

That's why we know that there are casinos that are also good at tracking the cheating activities of their gamblers on their platform. And often what they base it on is the one IP address that is used, especially if only one wifi is used that is logged in to their casino platform.
Many people still trying to create multiple account even if they know that is abuse of the rules. They don't think about what will happen to them if the casino caught them and casino can do that easily. They just want to chase the bonuses from casino so they can get more rewards. Casino always check the members activities to find members who cheat them because of wanting to get more bonuses. Those people need to realize that they don't have to do that while they always playing gambling in that casino because casino will know and close their account. If that happen, even if they accuse the casino, they will still lost their account without getting their money.


Title: Re: Using casino bonus frequently is an abused?
Post by: Koadharber on September 22, 2024, 12:45:11 PM
If you create dummy accounts because you want to avail the bonus that the casino has, it can be said that it is abuse. Even if we say that you will use different names and different IDs when the casino demands KYC.

That's why we know that there are casinos that are also good at tracking the cheating activities of their gamblers on their platform. And often what they base it on is the one IP address that is used, especially if only one wifi is used that is logged in to their casino platform.
Many people still trying to create multiple account even if they know that is abuse of the rules. They don't think about what will happen to them if the casino caught them and casino can do that easily. They just want to chase the bonuses from casino so they can get more rewards. Casino always check the members activities to find members who cheat them because of wanting to get more bonuses. Those people need to realize that they don't have to do that while they always playing gambling in that casino because casino will know and close their account. If that happen, even if they accuse the casino, they will still lost their account without getting their money.
Cheaters would always be a cheater and on the moment that they would really be able to see some hole then they would really be definitely be trying out to abuse it and this is something which isnt shocking
but we do know that these businesses are already that wary about these possible cheats on which we know that they are really that prepared for that. Whenever you do get caught then expect that you would be blocked and this is something that will really be that stopping these cheaters to do such thing. As for legit gamblers then they would really be sometimes lucky enough on dealing up with bonuses but
the platform did make out some words about such abuse on which its not really that relevant at all. Where's the abuse on this one?


Title: Re: Using casino bonus frequently is an abused?
Post by: Shishir99 on September 22, 2024, 12:49:21 PM
Those accounts are just possibly get flags once they detect multiple accounts in the same IP address that are keep using the feature of bonuses of their platform, but if you are just using a one account it seems they just seen that you are continuously using their platform and bonuses and they think its might an abuse. IMHO its okay to use their bonuses because its their featured promoted to get more engagement but its better too if they clarify that there's a limit at least. So if they prevevent like this it seems like they don't want to push through their promotional strategy.

Most of us misunderstood OP. The guy said has account on multiple casinos. Not on multiple account in one casino which he cleared by the OP. So, it is strange that the casino decided not to allow any bonus to him. But I am not surprised because I have seen casinos disabling bonus for some specific users. One of our local forum members got his account banned on a casino just because he was regularly using promo codes to get bonuses. If a casino think, a certain player is not profitable for their business, they just disable bonus or sometimes even close the account. There is nothing we can do about it since the casino has the right to do it.


Title: Re: Using casino bonus frequently is an abused?
Post by: Dewi Aries on September 22, 2024, 12:49:26 PM
I think making use of the bonus given to play games and winning continuously shouldn't be enough reason why they are going to restrict you from bonus, that means they might have suspected that you could probably be doing something else as against their policy, well, this is left for them to decide on the cognate reason for that, but as from your end, i don't think you have done anything that wrong to have deserved a bonus ban by all you have stated, i also don't understand if perpetual winning on bonus could lead to a bonus ban.
Have you ever thought that there is simply a separate limit on bonuses for each player? Yes, this is also practiced and quite often. There is no need to look for pitfalls where they simply do not exist. Everything is quite simple and logical, if you look from the outside. Well, the casino cannot give bonuses so often. There is a limit to everything.

Putting limits on bonuses for gamblers is indeed very possible for casinos to do, but is it a fatal mistake because a gambler managed to win quite a lot by using the bonus? I don't think so, the casino should not say that the gambler is "abusing" the bonus, because after all it has been provided for gamblers to enjoy, and for the problem of winning it should not be a benchmark to become a problem or cause for the determination of the restriction rules.

This means that I think that there is most likely something else that triggers the problem, not because the gambler always manages to win by using the bonus, because if that was the reason then maybe I would say that the casino is unprofessional.


Title: Re: Using casino bonus frequently is an abused?
Post by: Dr.Bitcoin_Strange on September 22, 2024, 12:56:34 PM
Like someone already stated that the reason why the casino said it's an abuse could be because the OP have been using the bonus more frequently than the way he's supposed to. I actually gave it a thought yesterday and I think that must have been the cause.

How can a casino say that a player use the bonus more than he's supposed to while there is a clear limit on how many times a user can claim the bonus?
It would not be fair for the players if players take the bonus frequently as what is provided by the casino and then the players alleged to be abusing the bonus.
The case also specific where deposit is required, it can be different thing if the bonus is 100% free then lets say players only claim the bonus all the time without making any deposit (in this case I would be agreed if taking bonus only without any intention to make deposit is considered as abuse).


If OP have only been making use of the deposit bonus without using his real funds to bet, I think it's possible that casino must have observed that OP is only too lucky with the advantage of the bonus, so they expect him to also use his own funds to gamble.


Title: Re: Using casino bonus frequently is an abused?
Post by: KTChampions on September 22, 2024, 01:19:54 PM
It is impossible to describe in detail all the cases that can occur, and even if it were possible, several days would not be enough for you to study such a ToS. For this case, any ToS always states that “the organization reserves the right to resolve disputes not described in the ToS.”
Personally, I have enough common sense to understand that a deposit every 3 days for the sake of a bonus will be considered abuse.

If that is the case then in the phrase “bonus abuse” and any attempt to get bonuses consistently like that can be said to be unwritten rules, but this is difficult to accept for those who do not understand it and maybe even those who are provoked can say the casino is a scam, it is true that this will be difficult to explain in detail for every casino that has such a bonus mechanism, but it is good that they have to provide an explanation, and past problems can be ignored because of the updated rules.

Our whole life consists of unwritten rules (common sense), it's normal. I think you've heard of such a concept as an Italian strike - when workers do everything strictly according to the rules/instructions... and as a result it reduces productivity several times if it doesn't stop work at all.
In relation to the casino/player, both parties must be honest and not abuse the trust. I generally try to avoid bonuses and everything else so as not to have problems with it.


Title: Re: Using casino bonus frequently is an abused?
Post by: Alone055 on September 22, 2024, 01:26:27 PM
In relation to the casino/player, both parties must be honest and not abuse the trust. I generally try to avoid bonuses and everything else so as not to have problems with it.

That's the point, both sides need to be transparent with it. In this case, OP didn't do anything wrong if he has been using a bonus that the casino offers every week or so, if they don't want their players to use that bonus, they shouldn't offer it in the first place, or if they say they are running this promotion to attract new players then they should have some conditions and restrictions for the bonus such as only newly registered users can avail it or only those who made their first deposit can use the bonus and not old players.

If the casino isn't transparent about the rules of a bonus or promotion, they can't blame a user for abusing the bonus because who wouldn't use a bonus if they see it's available for them? I wouldn't mind getting a bonus for a deposit that I would do anyway.

If a player is only using 1 account on the platform and is completely honest and loyal, the casino needs to show some transparency as well. That's my opinion.


Title: Re: Using casino bonus frequently is an abused?
Post by: Orpichukwu on September 22, 2024, 01:57:36 PM
Have you ever thought that there is simply a separate limit on bonuses for each player? Yes, this is also practiced and quite often. There is no need to look for pitfalls where they simply do not exist. Everything is quite simple and logical, if you look from the outside. Well, the casino cannot give bonuses so often. There is a limit to everything.
I understand the point you are making and where you are heading; there is a limit to the bonus, but then again, when the casino keeps on giving you the bonus, when ever the gambler meets the bonus requirement, what do you expect the gambler to do?
 
Ignore the bonus or contact the casino that they gave him or her a bonus that's not supposed to be awarded, and in a situation where how often the bonus will be given is not also mentioned on the bonus TOS, what do you expect the person to do in such a situation?
 
If the casino forgot and has continuously given the person a bonus, why not just say you have used up your bonus limit rather than using the word "bonus abuse" if there is nothing to prove that the person abused the bonus system?


Title: Re: Using casino bonus frequently is an abused?
Post by: Jody.Drummer on September 22, 2024, 02:38:26 PM
I think making use of the bonus given to play games and winning continuously shouldn't be enough reason why they are going to restrict you from bonus, that means they might have suspected that you could probably be doing something else as against their policy, well, this is left for them to decide on the cognate reason for that, but as from your end, i don't think you have done anything that wrong to have deserved a bonus ban by all you have stated, i also don't understand if perpetual winning on bonus could lead to a bonus ban.
Have you ever thought that there is simply a separate limit on bonuses for each player? Yes, this is also practiced and quite often. There is no need to look for pitfalls where they simply do not exist. Everything is quite simple and logical, if you look from the outside. Well, the casino cannot give bonuses so often. There is a limit to everything.
I agree with you, indeed the casino will certainly provide limits on the bonuses they provide to their customers, but if the player has a problem with the bonus he has taken, the casino must be able to handle it to make customers have confidence in their casino and maintain their reputation so that it remains good. Even with people who are already regular customers, I think they can get bonuses but there will still be limits set. Giving bonuses or promotions is something that casinos will most likely do, because it is one of their strategies which aims to get more profit or make players more comfortable betting in their casino. In addition, players who place bets at a casino certainly want to win even though their goal in betting is to have fun but winning is something that cannot be lied to, with the bonuses provided players can get it as long as they meet the requirements, and I don't think there are any players who will abuse the bonuses that have been provided.


Title: Re: Using casino bonus frequently is an abused?
Post by: Stable090 on September 22, 2024, 02:48:38 PM
Surprisingly, they gave me a reason that I’m restricted to the casino bonus due to the bonus abused?! I understand if they will just restrict me to use this bonus because I’m winning using it but using the word bonus abused while you are just using it properly is a bit harsh.
That’s serious, and this is just the first time I'm going to hear about something like this. They even replied to you that you were abusing the bonus. If they don’t want people to be making use of the bonus, or they don’t want people to win, then why give out the bonus right from the beginning? That’s really annoying and bad. I don’t really know the casino that you are making use of, but I will recommend you just have to be careful, because time might come when they will restrict your account, and they are going to tell you that you have gone against some of their rules.

Is it an abused if you use the bonus on your deposit.
No. Just that maybe the casino doesn’t like the way you have been winning frequently, and they can’t stop you, so they decided to use that. They can’t be giving you free money, and you will decide to gamble with it and still win always.


Title: Re: Using casino bonus frequently is an abused?
Post by: nimogsm on September 22, 2024, 03:46:58 PM
If you create dummy accounts because you want to avail the bonus that the casino has, it can be said that it is abuse. Even if we say that you will use different names and different IDs when the casino demands KYC.

That's why we know that there are casinos that are also good at tracking the cheating activities of their gamblers on their platform. And often what they base it on is the one IP address that is used, especially if only one wifi is used that is logged in to their casino platform.
Many people still trying to create multiple account even if they know that is abuse of the rules. They don't think about what will happen to them if the casino caught them and casino can do that easily. They just want to chase the bonuses from casino so they can get more rewards. Casino always check the members activities to find members who cheat them because of wanting to get more bonuses. Those people need to realize that they don't have to do that while they always playing gambling in that casino because casino will know and close their account. If that happen, even if they accuse the casino, they will still lost their account without getting their money.
Yes, perhaps the most frequent violation is the creation of a second account to obtain a referral bonus. Even when I was just starting to get involved in the interpent of Gambling, I created myself a second akaty for referral obstacles but I was banned a day in a week. After that, I don’t do it anymore because those commissions that could be there There were definitely not two accounts.I think a lot of newcomers did this, because this is a rather cunning trick.


Title: Re: Using casino bonus frequently is an abused?
Post by: AliMan on September 22, 2024, 04:48:54 PM
I made a topic related this matter before on this thread https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5468782.msg62929040#msg62929040.

I forgot that I’m limited on using the bonus of this casino due busyness on other casino. I deposit and wait for the bonus that didn’t arrived so I contacted the support about this.

Surprisingly, they gave me a reason that I’m restricted to the casino bonus due to the bonus abused?! I understand if they will just restrict me to use this bonus because I’m winning using it but using the word bonus abused while you are just using it properly is a bit harsh.

Is it an abused if you use the bonus on your deposit. On this specific case, Winz.io has wheel that resets every 3 days so I made deposit every 3 days to avail this bonus. I don’t understand what part is the abused on this case.



On this situation there's always a strong restrictions that might have caused it, and as far as bonuses is merely concerned here of course we felt being abused. However we need to manage well that bonuses, and when you don't hsve any deposit I think the system itself will trigger restrictions.


Title: Re: Using casino bonus frequently is an abused?
Post by: virasog on September 22, 2024, 04:55:57 PM
I think making use of the bonus given to play games and winning continuously shouldn't be enough reason why they are going to restrict you from bonus, that means they might have suspected that you could probably be doing something else as against their policy, well, this is left for them to decide on the cognate reason for that, but as from your end, i don't think you have done anything that wrong to have deserved a bonus ban by all you have stated, i also don't understand if perpetual winning on bonus could lead to a bonus ban.
Have you ever thought that there is simply a separate limit on bonuses for each player? Yes, this is also practiced and quite often. There is no need to look for pitfalls where they simply do not exist. Everything is quite simple and logical, if you look from the outside. Well, the casino cannot give bonuses so often. There is a limit to everything.

Yes, as per my understanding too the casino will give limited bonus to every player and they already have this calculation in place. In case, you are getting a bonus again and again, then it is your right to use this bonus as frequently as you can because it is allowed by the gambling site. Usually, the gambling casino will put high wagering requirements on such casinos, so even if you are getting the bonus every now and then, you won't be able to cash it out.


Title: Re: Using casino bonus frequently is an abused?
Post by: danherbias07 on September 22, 2024, 05:50:18 PM
Have you ever thought that there is simply a separate limit on bonuses for each player? Yes, this is also practiced and quite often. There is no need to look for pitfalls where they simply do not exist. Everything is quite simple and logical, if you look from the outside. Well, the casino cannot give bonuses so often. There is a limit to everything.
I understand the point you are making and where you are heading; there is a limit to the bonus, but then again, when the casino keeps on giving you the bonus, when ever the gambler meets the bonus requirement, what do you expect the gambler to do?
 
Ignore the bonus or contact the casino that they gave him or her a bonus that's not supposed to be awarded, and in a situation where how often the bonus will be given is not also mentioned on the bonus TOS, what do you expect the person to do in such a situation?
 
If the casino forgot and has continuously given the person a bonus, why not just say you have used up your bonus limit rather than using the word "bonus abuse" if there is nothing to prove that the person abused the bonus system?
Anyone who would do that is a hypocrite or say that he reported a bonus that is not supposed to be given to him. It's a bonus! Claim it! That's the first impression a gambler would react when a bonus is given to him. It's called a bonus for a reason.  :D

You are right, they can just forfeit on giving the bonuses to a certain user and let him play on their gambling site. Doing this might even help them get back whatever amount they lost since it had always been that way for many gamblers, losses. Bonus abuse is like you did something wrong while you are just receiving whatever you have given to him.
I don't think that's the right approach to fix things and large business should keep their customers if they want their money back in case something like this will happen.


Title: Re: Using casino bonus frequently is an abused?
Post by: nara1892 on September 22, 2024, 07:11:38 PM
If actually this was a very serious case of abuse, then your account must have been restricted  but if you didn't get ban or locked out of your account, I think you don't have to worry too much because it might not really be that you are misusing the bonus but there could be something else, like misuse of their own English.  For what I understand bonus can not be misused, so it actually depends on what they mean by that.

And in this case I think it makes no sense to say that a gambler has abused the bonus, because after all it is a facility provided by the casino, meaning it is the right of a gambler and they are free to use the bonus for anything and in any way.

Like someone already stated that the reason why the casino said it's an abuse could be because the OP have been using the bonus more frequently than the way he's supposed to. I actually gave it a thought yesterday and I think that must have been the cause.

Yes, maybe that's the reason, but I think if the casino has provided an open bonus for gamblers then it means it shouldn't be a problem if the gambler uses the bonus, abusing it means when someone tries to use something for things that are prohibited, but in terms of bonuses I think there is no such thing as abusing because when the casino provides the bonus then it means it is the right of a gambler to use it.
Besides I don't think I see anything suspicious with the actions that a gambler will take with the bonus, it's just additional funds to increase the amount of the gambler's deposit which of course will end in two possibilities between winning or losing everything.


Title: Re: Using casino bonus frequently is an abused?
Post by: Miles2006 on September 22, 2024, 08:17:02 PM
I can’t relate with such situation maybe I don’t get the chance to always use bonus and whenever I make a move I don’t get a win frequent. The fact you messaged the casino support team and they made mentioned of abuse it’s obvious they stated rules concerning that earlier but most times we don’t get to read casino rules, even if there’s nothing like bonus abuse I think the casino are being honest seeing a user win always with the bonus offer, The idea is surprising and I’m curious to ask if this limit will stand whenever you place a bet or the restriction is for awhile.


Title: Re: Using casino bonus frequently is an abused?
Post by: passwordnow on September 22, 2024, 08:58:19 PM
I can’t relate with such situation maybe I don’t get the chance to always use bonus and whenever I make a move I don’t get a win frequent. The fact you messaged the casino support team and they made mentioned of abuse it’s obvious they stated rules concerning that earlier but most times we don’t get to read casino rules, even if there’s nothing like bonus abuse I think the casino are being honest seeing a user win always with the bonus offer
He knows the rules but then, the casino have decided and said that he's abusing it although it's not on their books. Maybe this can be a loop hole for some and then they've forgotten to modify the rules and so, this where it is about their rights and can decide whatever is an abuse and whatever it is not. But mostly, when someone is able to get bonuses as if it's an unlimited deal, they would think that there's really an abuse that's happening it.

And for them to be able to take advantage of it, they're cutting the fun on that user so that it will be stopped with the bonuses that it is enjoying. From the very start, many knew about these bonuses aren't really easy to claim so if you're a lucky guy that's able to claim this soon then make sure that you are adhering to their rules and them being honest, it's not about that but all about the business.

The idea is surprising and I’m curious to ask if this limit will stand whenever you place a bet or the restriction is for awhile.
It's there for as long as they want to be or likely a permanent tag on his account.


Title: Re: Using casino bonus frequently is an abused?
Post by: fruktik on September 23, 2024, 05:04:13 AM
Yes, as per my understanding too the casino will give limited bonus to every player and they already have this calculation in place. In case, you are getting a bonus again and again, then it is your right to use this bonus as frequently as you can because it is allowed by the gambling site. Usually, the gambling casino will put high wagering requirements on such casinos, so even if you are getting the bonus every now and then, you won't be able to cash it out.
I am not surprised by this state of affairs. I remember a case when I was given a decent bonus in a casino, but the condition was to wager more than 20x. Well, how can you withdraw money here? It's just unrealistic. With such data, you can forget about money once and for all. Yes, it is nice when they credit a bonus, but according to the rules, this is just something. Now I have no illusions about this. I immediately look for a catch in this. Perhaps not all casinos practice this, but it happens quite often.


Title: Re: Using casino bonus frequently is an abused?
Post by: fikrett on September 23, 2024, 05:55:02 AM
I can’t relate with such situation maybe I don’t get the chance to always use bonus and whenever I make a move I don’t get a win frequent. The fact you messaged the casino support team and they made mentioned of abuse it’s obvious they stated rules concerning that earlier but most times we don’t get to read casino rules, even if there’s nothing like bonus abuse I think the casino are being honest seeing a user win always with the bonus offer, The idea is surprising and I’m curious to ask if this limit will stand whenever you place a bet or the restriction is for awhile.

It was either a house rule or the house is just not that big and got OP restricted from being that lucky ;D That's what I've read from the original thread, and I believe this idea.
We will never know, I imagine.


Title: Re: Using casino bonus frequently is an abused?
Post by: bakasabo on September 23, 2024, 08:31:29 AM
I am not surprised by this state of affairs. I remember a case when I was given a decent bonus in a casino, but the condition was to wager more than 20x. Well, how can you withdraw money here? It's just unrealistic. With such data, you can forget about money once and for all. Yes, it is nice when they credit a bonus, but according to the rules, this is just something. Now I have no illusions about this. I immediately look for a catch in this. Perhaps not all casinos practice this, but it happens quite often.

Bonus does not mean free money. I can agree that 20x wager is a lot, but when you make a deposit, you should consider bonus as an addition to your balance, but not as money that casino give you for free. Otherwise what will stop gambler from withdrawing bonus without even gambling? You say it is unrealistic, but who has promised you that it will be easy to get bonus money? Even at work you do something to earn, you dont just attend work to receive salary by the end of a month or week.

With OP case, I wont call it an abuse, but I understand it like it was a welcome bonus he was granted. Then it looks strange how can welcome bonus be used several times, because after a first deposit/registration, gambler is no longer a new person for casino. If I was that casino, I would not call such gamblers as bonus abusers, but reconsider bonus policy and would have used a different warning/explanation. 1 gambler - 1 welcome bonus.


Title: Re: Using casino bonus frequently is an abused?
Post by: KTChampions on September 23, 2024, 05:02:01 PM
In relation to the casino/player, both parties must be honest and not abuse the trust. I generally try to avoid bonuses and everything else so as not to have problems with it.

That's the point, both sides need to be transparent with it. In this case, OP didn't do anything wrong if he has been using a bonus that the casino offers every week or so, if they don't want their players to use that bonus, they shouldn't offer it in the first place, or if they say they are running this promotion to attract new players then they should have some conditions and restrictions for the bonus such as only newly registered users can avail it or only those who made their first deposit can use the bonus and not old players.

If the casino isn't transparent about the rules of a bonus or promotion, they can't blame a user for abusing the bonus because who wouldn't use a bonus if they see it's available for them? I wouldn't mind getting a bonus for a deposit that I would do anyway.

If a player is only using 1 account on the platform and is completely honest and loyal, the casino needs to show some transparency as well. That's my opinion.

The main idea of ​​a casino is to try your luck. If you are lucky you will win inside the game. Right? The idea of ​​"earning" on bonuses is very different from this idea in my opinion. Perhaps the casino should more clearly indicate the conditions for using bonuses and make it so that the player does not even have the opportunity to abuse the bonus system. But do you really think that nowhere in the ToS is it stated that "the bonus is provided on the basis of the casino's good will and can be refused without reason" or something like that?


Title: Re: Using casino bonus frequently is an abused?
Post by: Mahanton on September 23, 2024, 07:41:35 PM
In relation to the casino/player, both parties must be honest and not abuse the trust. I generally try to avoid bonuses and everything else so as not to have problems with it.

That's the point, both sides need to be transparent with it. In this case, OP didn't do anything wrong if he has been using a bonus that the casino offers every week or so, if they don't want their players to use that bonus, they shouldn't offer it in the first place, or if they say they are running this promotion to attract new players then they should have some conditions and restrictions for the bonus such as only newly registered users can avail it or only those who made their first deposit can use the bonus and not old players.

If the casino isn't transparent about the rules of a bonus or promotion, they can't blame a user for abusing the bonus because who wouldn't use a bonus if they see it's available for them? I wouldn't mind getting a bonus for a deposit that I would do anyway.

If a player is only using 1 account on the platform and is completely honest and loyal, the casino needs to show some transparency as well. That's my opinion.

The main idea of ​​a casino is to try your luck. If you are lucky you will win inside the game. Right? The idea of ​​"earning" on bonuses is very different from this idea in my opinion. Perhaps the casino should more clearly indicate the conditions for using bonuses and make it so that the player does not even have the opportunity to abuse the bonus system. But do you really think that nowhere in the ToS is it stated that "the bonus is provided on the basis of the casino's good will and can be refused without reason" or something like that?
When dealing up with gambling then you should really be that always having that kind of consideration or realization that it will really be just that always for the sake of fun and this is something that you should
really be that having in mind so that you wont really be that pushing yourself out of your limit. When it comes to abuse then the most common thing that do happen is to make multiple accounts on which
this is where abusers will really be trying out to take advantage on having those kind of multiple account creations for the sake on having that dealing up with those bonuses. We do know that bonuses could really be
neither be that activate or not depending or basing up into gamblers preference or decisions on which we know that if you do find yourself having this kind of set up and chose up to active it out but it turns out
that you do able to hit up the threshold then there's nothing wrong with that. In this case on which the casino is really that telling you are abusing which the fact that you are making the right thing and able
to get those rollovers legally or on fairly then thats really kind of odd words that came from them. You would really be that basically having those kind of questions on what the heck they've been saying around.


Title: Re: Using casino bonus frequently is an abused?
Post by: ethereumhunter on September 24, 2024, 08:53:43 AM
Cheaters would always be a cheater and on the moment that they would really be able to see some hole then they would really be definitely be trying out to abuse it and this is something which isnt shocking
but we do know that these businesses are already that wary about these possible cheats on which we know that they are really that prepared for that. Whenever you do get caught then expect that you would be blocked and this is something that will really be that stopping these cheaters to do such thing. As for legit gamblers then they would really be sometimes lucky enough on dealing up with bonuses but
the platform did make out some words about such abuse on which its not really that relevant at all. Where's the abuse on this one?
Yeah, that is right because they think that they can do that in many places and using their skill to cheat the casino. They don't know that casino can detects what they do and can close their account easily and not takes to long to do that. Those cheaters doesn't have to think to cheat casino by creating multiple account just to abuse the system or bonus because that will just waste of time and they will see their account will be closed by the casino.

If we can be a legit gamblers, we don't have to worry with anything because we don't create multiple account in that casino. We follows their rules because we realize that there is no use to cheat casino and make our account getting a risk closed by the casino.

Yes, perhaps the most frequent violation is the creation of a second account to obtain a referral bonus. Even when I was just starting to get involved in the interpent of Gambling, I created myself a second akaty for referral obstacles but I was banned a day in a week. After that, I don’t do it anymore because those commissions that could be there There were definitely not two accounts.I think a lot of newcomers did this, because this is a rather cunning trick.
The casino will find out their members who cheat their system by creating a second account to obtain a referral bonus. Maybe we don't know how the casino find our second account but they will close it as soon as they know and they can do that with or without noticing us to close all of our account. You already experienced so you don't have to try it again in other casino because that will be a matter of time for casino to know that you are trying to abuse their referral bonus. People should learn from other experiences about creating multiple account to chase a referral bonus so they don't have to do that and just play gambling without having a will to do that.


Title: Re: Using casino bonus frequently is an abused?
Post by: Jody.Drummer on September 24, 2024, 10:09:24 AM
The main idea of ​​a casino is to try your luck. If you are lucky you will win inside the game. Right? The idea of ​​"earning" on bonuses is very different from this idea in my opinion. Perhaps the casino should more clearly indicate the conditions for using bonuses and make it so that the player does not even have the opportunity to abuse the bonus system. But do you really think that nowhere in the ToS is it stated that "the bonus is provided on the basis of the casino's good will and can be refused without reason" or something like that?
I never thought about what kind of motive would be done if a player gets a bonus in gambling, besides that the casino will definitely apply certain restrictions to its bonuses and of course there are certain requirements for players to be able to get a bonus that has been provided. And I agree with what you said, gambling is very much about luck so when we are lucky we can win, but no matter what method is used it does not rule out the possibility of losing, even if the player takes the bonus that the casino provides. Previously I think the casino has explained about the bonuses that have been provided in its Tos, but most players usually ignore things like this and sometimes they will read it when a problem has occurred that makes them uncomfortable.


Title: Re: Using casino bonus frequently is an abused?
Post by: sompitonov on September 24, 2024, 10:16:48 AM
Sometimes I think that players from the poorest countries can put a lot of effort into using bonuses in casinos frequently to try to make money, although it is not a fact that it will work. I mean, they have a very small dollar per hour at work and because of this, no moral principles will stop them. I do not want to offend anyone and them, because this is just what they potentially use and if it was impossible to do, they would not do it. I have no doubt that the casino tracks all the statistics on all bonuses and sees from which countries they are requested the most. I think from rich countries some can even go in without using any bonuses, but only because they wanted to spin the reels a couple of times and lose a few hundred bucks.


Title: Re: Using casino bonus frequently is an abused?
Post by: Pandu Geddon on September 24, 2024, 10:20:20 AM
I never thought about what kind of motive would be done if a player gets a bonus in gambling, besides that the casino will definitely apply certain restrictions to its bonuses and of course there are certain requirements for players to be able to get a bonus that has been provided. And I agree with what you said, gambling is very much about luck so when we are lucky we can win, but no matter what method is used it does not rule out the possibility of losing, even if the player takes the bonus that the casino provides. Previously I think the casino has explained about the bonuses that have been provided in its Tos, but most players usually ignore things like this and sometimes they will read it when a problem has occurred that makes them uncomfortable.

I think it's not because of not reading the ToS of the casino or the rules of the bonuses that can be obtained and used by gamblers. Sometimes some gamblers deliberately want to get a little more benefit from the bonuses given by the casino.
At first, there may not be a problem, but when the pattern is done regularly, it will eventually create suspicion of the gambler's account activity.

However, getting a bonus for gamblers is fun. Regardless of whether it will run out in gambling again or not, casinos manage their loyal gamblers well when there are bonuses and other attractive offers that make gamblers continue to play at the same casino.


Title: Re: Using casino bonus frequently is an abused?
Post by: hahay on September 24, 2024, 04:53:45 PM
Sometimes I think that players from the poorest countries can put a lot of effort into using bonuses in casinos frequently to try to make money, although it is not a fact that it will work. I mean, they have a very small dollar per hour at work and because of this, no moral principles will stop them. I do not want to offend anyone and them, because this is just what they potentially use and if it was impossible to do, they would not do it. I have no doubt that the casino tracks all the statistics on all bonuses and sees from which countries they are requested the most. I think from rich countries some can even go in without using any bonuses, but only because they wanted to spin the reels a couple of times and lose a few hundred bucks.

Yes indeed, just utilizing bonuses can also basically make money, some of them only get a small profit but in fact there are also many who get a large profit just playing from the bonus. But even so, at least the platform will also have conditions for such players to be able to make withdrawals, such as deposits and the amount of wagared that must be achieved. Thus,  players also need to make an effort of course to be able to make withdrawals but even so, it is also possible that they only do it just for leisure, so that they do not have the pressure until their bets succeed in making good profits.


Title: Re: Using casino bonus frequently is an abused?
Post by: KTChampions on September 24, 2024, 06:22:40 PM
The main idea of ​​a casino is to try your luck. If you are lucky you will win inside the game. Right? The idea of ​​"earning" on bonuses is very different from this idea in my opinion. Perhaps the casino should more clearly indicate the conditions for using bonuses and make it so that the player does not even have the opportunity to abuse the bonus system. But do you really think that nowhere in the ToS is it stated that "the bonus is provided on the basis of the casino's good will and can be refused without reason" or something like that?
I never thought about what kind of motive would be done if a player gets a bonus in gambling, besides that the casino will definitely apply certain restrictions to its bonuses and of course there are certain requirements for players to be able to get a bonus that has been provided. And I agree with what you said, gambling is very much about luck so when we are lucky we can win, but no matter what method is used it does not rule out the possibility of losing, even if the player takes the bonus that the casino provides. Previously I think the casino has explained about the bonuses that have been provided in its Tos, but most players usually ignore things like this and sometimes they will read it when a problem has occurred that makes them uncomfortable.

I am one of this majority and I also never read the ToS. Firstly, I choose a casino based on reputation (it is obvious that real people's opinions about the service are more important than advertising or the ToS), secondly, as I already wrote above, I have enough common sense not to get into controversial situations. If a player doesn't read the ToS and doesn't have common sense, then of course he will end up in an "incomprehensible" situation.


Title: Re: Using casino bonus frequently is an abused?
Post by: Su-asa on September 24, 2024, 10:33:00 PM
I made a topic related this matter before on this thread https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5468782.msg62929040#msg62929040.

I forgot that I’m limited on using the bonus of this casino due busyness on other casino. I deposit and wait for the bonus that didn’t arrived so I contacted the support about this.

Surprisingly, they gave me a reason that I’m restricted to the casino bonus due to the bonus abused?! I understand if they will just restrict me to use this bonus because I’m winning using it but using the word bonus abused while you are just using it properly is a bit harsh.

Is it an abused if you use the bonus on your deposit. On this specific case, Winz.io has wheel that resets every 3 days so I made deposit every 3 days to avail this bonus. I don’t understand what part is the abused on this case.



First of all how do you have bonus frequently with a particular account? I haven't really gotten that before. My first deposit of hundred thousand naira on 1x bet gave me a bonus of 10 thousand naira to bet on casino games only and I have been using that account for a year prior to the time I made that deposit, having frequent bonuses isn't really believeable because casinos or bookmakers don't give out bonuses like that expect if you have multiple accounts that's the only logical explanation to this asides from that I can't think any other way to answer this question


Title: Re: Using casino bonus frequently is an abused?
Post by: usekevin on September 24, 2024, 10:36:27 PM

First of all how do you have bonus frequently with a particular account? I haven't really gotten that before. My first deposit of hundred thousand naira on 1x bet gave me a bonus of 10 thousand naira to bet on casino games only and I have been using that account for a year prior to the time I made that deposit, having frequent bonuses isn't really believeable because casinos or bookmakers don't give out bonuses like that expect if you have multiple accounts that's the only logical explanation to this asides from that I can't think any other way to answer this question


The gambling also based on the prediction,the more you predict well.The more you win more from the gambling,the gamblers was successful on the prediction was the exact point of gambling.The knowledge about the game was huge importance to make the money from the same game from which you had loss the money.Play with the free money,So the loss also not the big one for the gamblers.The gamblers should honest towards their game,because anytime the luck favours the gamblers and make huge money from it.The gamblers should understand the gambling risk and ready to both the results of the betting game.


Title: Re: Using casino bonus frequently is an abused?
Post by: SamReomo on September 24, 2024, 10:41:26 PM
But do you really think that nowhere in the ToS is it stated that "the bonus is provided on the basis of the casino's good will and can be refused without reason" or something like that?
Well the idea of bonus on casinos is more similar to bribery and that's a type of bribery that casinos offer to players so they can be part of a casino. In most cases new users who avail the bonuses often end up losing money because of being unable to complete the wagering requirements.

Then all such users end up depositing more funds so they can recover the losses and earn money from that casino instead of letting it to take the money that he/she had lost in order to complete the wagering requirements. That's why I guess a good player should avoid such bonuses and enjoy gambling as a fun activity. If he/she is lucky then he/she will win.


Title: Re: Using casino bonus frequently is an abused?
Post by: terrific on September 24, 2024, 10:45:40 PM
However, getting a bonus for gamblers is fun. Regardless of whether it will run out in gambling again or not, casinos manage their loyal gamblers well when there are bonuses and other attractive offers that make gamblers continue to play at the same casino.
I admire those casinos that have less complainants but all of them cannot avoid these problems of abuse from their gamblers.
Some may say that they're not actually abusing the platform but in the perspective of the casino per se, they think that they were.
As for OPs case, it's different and really depends on the judgement of the casino that he's gambling at. I am not here to judge but it's true that bonuses are for gamblers to have and to motivate them to stay and come back any time to them.


Title: Re: Using casino bonus frequently is an abused?
Post by: Dewi Aries on September 24, 2024, 11:28:23 PM

First of all how do you have bonus frequently with a particular account? I haven't really gotten that before. My first deposit of hundred thousand naira on 1x bet gave me a bonus of 10 thousand naira to bet on casino games only and I have been using that account for a year prior to the time I made that deposit, having frequent bonuses isn't really believeable because casinos or bookmakers don't give out bonuses like that expect if you have multiple accounts that's the only logical explanation to this asides from that I can't think any other way to answer this question


The gambling also based on the prediction,the more you predict well.The more you win more from the gambling,the gamblers was successful on the prediction was the exact point of gambling.The knowledge about the game was huge importance to make the money from the same game from which you had loss the money.Play with the free money,So the loss also not the big one for the gamblers.The gamblers should honest towards their game,because anytime the luck favours the gamblers and make huge money from it.The gamblers should understand the gambling risk and ready to both the results of the betting game.

Yes, but anyway you will never know which prediction is right and which prediction is wrong, meaning that defeat or victory does not occur because you are smart in making decisions but because you are lucky enough to choose one of the two options. If we talk about the type of sports betting then yes of course knowledge and skills are needed but we must also understand that it is nothing more than a tool, or in the sense that the actual results cannot be known 100% accurately.

That is why every gambler is always advised to only gamble with a minimum amount of money or in small amounts, because anyway we will never know about the results at the end of the game, the point is you can win but you are also very likely to lose.


Title: Re: Using casino bonus frequently is an abused?
Post by: Jody.Drummer on September 25, 2024, 05:13:04 AM
I never thought about what kind of motive would be done if a player gets a bonus in gambling, besides that the casino will definitely apply certain restrictions to its bonuses and of course there are certain requirements for players to be able to get a bonus that has been provided. And I agree with what you said, gambling is very much about luck so when we are lucky we can win, but no matter what method is used it does not rule out the possibility of losing, even if the player takes the bonus that the casino provides. Previously I think the casino has explained about the bonuses that have been provided in its Tos, but most players usually ignore things like this and sometimes they will read it when a problem has occurred that makes them uncomfortable.

I think it's not because of not reading the ToS of the casino or the rules of the bonuses that can be obtained and used by gamblers. Sometimes some gamblers deliberately want to get a little more benefit from the bonuses given by the casino.
At first, there may not be a problem, but when the pattern is done regularly, it will eventually create suspicion of the gambler's account activity.

However, getting a bonus for gamblers is fun. Regardless of whether it will run out in gambling again or not, casinos manage their loyal gamblers well when there are bonuses and other attractive offers that make gamblers continue to play at the same casino.
It makes sense, besides I think everyone definitely wants more than what they have received, especially with the name of the bonus, of course everyone wants that and maybe wants more. Well, from this I conclude that if you have received a bonus then we should just accept it naturally, I mean don't look for other diseases if you are not ready for the consequences. Some people who cheat will definitely be upset with what happened even though it was because of their own cheating actions, that's ridiculous. The purpose of the casino giving bonuses to its customers is to make customers comfortable and stay at the casino. In addition, the bonuses that the casino provides in my opinion are different, for new users and loyal users it is different even though I don't know the details I think it is different. Everyone is definitely interested in the name of the bonus, so it is likely that everyone will take the bonus that has been provided, especially if the requirements are easy.


Title: Re: Using casino bonus frequently is an abused?
Post by: mirakal on September 25, 2024, 06:47:59 AM
However, getting a bonus for gamblers is fun. Regardless of whether it will run out in gambling again or not, casinos manage their loyal gamblers well when there are bonuses and other attractive offers that make gamblers continue to play at the same casino.
I admire those casinos that have less complainants but all of them cannot avoid these problems of abuse from their gamblers.
Some may say that they're not actually abusing the platform but in the perspective of the casino per se, they think that they were.
As for OPs case, it's different and really depends on the judgement of the casino that he's gambling at. I am not here to judge but it's true that bonuses are for gamblers to have and to motivate them to stay and come back any time to them.
Bonuses often get misused by abusers and those who don’t usually gamble. From our perspective, it seems fine, but casinos have a different view, especially when they spot suspicious activity on an account. Even if someone won’t admit their true intentions, casinos already have some conclusion in their minds—they know the game because they have some experience.

Usually, a bonus is offered just once after the first deposit, meant to entice players. But that doesn’t mean it can be easily withdrawn, which many gamblers overlook. In the end, it’s often the gambler who ends up facing the negative consequences.


Title: Re: Using casino bonus frequently is an abused?
Post by: bakasabo on September 25, 2024, 07:27:09 AM
Even if bonuses are misused, we cant blame gambler for that. That is 100% casinos fault, that they havent thought about every single scenarios and left different use scenarios for gamblers. Sometimes a gambler can be not aware that he is abusing something. He is using casino and bonuses the way he thinks it works, and he will keep doing that until he gets a warning or ban. I dont think that OP really had intentions to abuse. If he was really so greedy for money, he would be using that bonus 24/7 until he gets banned.


Title: Re: Using casino bonus frequently is an abused?
Post by: Michael Branson on September 25, 2024, 10:36:41 AM
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Title: Re: Using casino bonus frequently is an abused?
Post by: avp2306 on September 25, 2024, 11:41:22 AM
However, getting a bonus for gamblers is fun. Regardless of whether it will run out in gambling again or not, casinos manage their loyal gamblers well when there are bonuses and other attractive offers that make gamblers continue to play at the same casino.
I admire those casinos that have less complainants but all of them cannot avoid these problems of abuse from their gamblers.
Some may say that they're not actually abusing the platform but in the perspective of the casino per se, they think that they were.
As for OPs case, it's different and really depends on the judgement of the casino that he's gambling at. I am not here to judge but it's true that bonuses are for gamblers to have and to motivate them to stay and come back any time to them.
Bonuses often get misused by abusers and those who don’t usually gamble. From our perspective, it seems fine, but casinos have a different view, especially when they spot suspicious activity on an account. Even if someone won’t admit their true intentions, casinos already have some conclusion in their minds—they know the game because they have some experience.

Usually, a bonus is offered just once after the first deposit, meant to entice players. But that doesn’t mean it can be easily withdrawn, which many gamblers overlook. In the end, it’s often the gambler who ends up facing the negative consequences.

In this cases then Its risky to avail those bonuses given by casino. Since if they have this instances where they flagged those users who always use the bonuses given then I think that is shady practices by them. Its like they are creating reason to restrict the account of the user then point out that they are abusing their bonuses.

So with this aside from being careful with casino that has not prove their reputation yet, I guess I also need to be careful for frequently using their bonuses since this cases might happen to me. But so far didn't experienced yet what OP encountered, but I guess this is reminder that we should be careful dealing with them especially if we are winning on the casino we are playing.


Title: Re: Using casino bonus frequently is an abused?
Post by: dimonstration on September 25, 2024, 03:04:57 PM
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I’m skeptical with your method but I will give a shot to try this next time. What I believe right now is casino will surely exclude you regardless of how often you claim bonus as long as you keep winning using it since they consider it as taking advantage against the casino because you are winning.

I’m generalizing this on every casino since I play a lot of casino that doesn’t have this kind of shit excuse despite I’m winning using their bonus frequently. It’s just odd that this specific casino ripped me all their promotion not only the bonus just because I win frequently using the bonus which they consider as abuse.

Nevertheless, it’s always a case to case basis but I’m always a hater of a casino that promise a generous bonus but backed with this shit restrictions.


Title: Re: Using casino bonus frequently is an abused?
Post by: Dewi Aries on September 25, 2024, 04:06:18 PM
Even if bonuses are misused, we cant blame gambler for that. That is 100% casinos fault, that they havent thought about every single scenarios and left different use scenarios for gamblers. Sometimes a gambler can be not aware that he is abusing something. He is using casino and bonuses the way he thinks it works, and he will keep doing that until he gets a warning or ban. I dont think that OP really had intentions to abuse. If he was really so greedy for money, he would be using that bonus 24/7 until he gets banned.

Exactly, that makes sense, and I also have the same thoughts as you my friend in this matter. If indeed the bonus can cause elements of abuse then why do casinos provide it? Gamblers including OP just come by making a deposit, claiming the bonus and playing like normal, they just use the bonus as it should be and I really don't see anything wrong with the actions taken by gamblers in that scenario.

As you said and it is also true that sometimes or even more often than not gamblers who do not realize that they have abused the bonus, because they will think that taking the bonus is a very reasonable action because it is part of the facilities provided by the casino so that gamblers can be more enthusiastic in playing. On the other hand, as OP thinks that the warning occurred because he often won when using the bonus, and I would say that it is an unfair casino.