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The Kamala Harris campaign is said to have falsely claimed "Mr Pool is promoting a 'plan to give Trump total, unchecked legal power so they can jail and execute those who don't support Trump if he wins".

https://www.newsweek.com/tim-pool-kamala-harris-defamation-lawsuit-west-virginia-project-2025-1955775

That said, is seems Tim Pool actually isn't much of a Trump supporter to begin with despite having arguably moved from the political center to the center-right over support for free speech and gun rights. Rather, he has been critical of both Trump and Harris. Under a dramatically improved definition of center as "Left-wing is for social freedoms but also for economic restraints, while right-wing is for economic freedoms but for social restraints", Tim Pool is most certainly a centrist as being for both social and economic freedoms, with a preference for only small amounts of social and economic restraint of various kinds.

Tim Pool is seeking damages for higher security measures needed to fight off the people who often put death threats against him as a result of comments like those by the Harris campaign. Despite being mostly a centrist, the death threats are by almost entirely leftist individuals.

What I like about democracy is that you can demand millions of dollars for anything that could offend you or damage your reputation.

It's funny that Tip will get this money. It's also funny that because of this very democracy I had to emigrate from Russia to Georgia.

He may have have been centrist years ago when he was working for Vice, but he's about as right wing as it gets these days.  Anti-trans, anti-immigration, pushes the right wing victim complex, he was one of the top 20 spreaders of baseless conspiracy theories on the 2020 election on social media, (https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2021/mar/05/election-misinformation-trump-rightwing-super-spreader-study) oh and he was literally being paid $100k per episode by Russia to help Trump get elected up until like 2 weeks ago.  

That's not "arguably center-right", that's right-wing MAGAtard.  

Tim "screaming Putinist" Pool is not a centrist. Also right-wing politics in the US against quite a few "economic freedoms", from labor unions to free trade. It's more about economic nationalism than freedom.

So nice try to redefine the political spectrum to fit one Russian plant but you may want to revise your approach.

But if he wants to waste his rubles on a frivolous lawsuit - that's his constitutional right.

Is being anti-war the same thing as being Putinist? Please name all Tim Pool's specific policies that make him pro-Putin? And yes, the right-left wing spectrum is a hot mess that needs refinement, with completely contradictory positions on both sides. For example, the current "left wing" is pro-censorship. Sorry no, that is wrong. And I do expect you to acknowledge that for consistency and meaningfulness as usefulness of words.

ALL left wingers ALL agree in heavy economic restraint, so that makes sense.

ALL right wingers ALL agree in some cultural restraints whether it be religious, traditionalist, or law-and-order type restraints.

I'd think when there is an improved definition you'd embrace it instead of attacking it... its like you want to attack everything I say even when it is good.

Like the neighboring comment you're left-right compass seems a bit skewed. Why is being neutral on someone being trans "anti-trans"? Tim Pool invites trans people as guests on his show, so I disagree that would be considered anti-trans. As for being anti-immigration, that would be a new position for him to have for sure, what quote is that based on?

Trump himself unlike Obama has always been in favor of gay marriage, therefore is stronger on gay rights than Obama. Secondly, Trump signed gun control legislation as president, so he accepts gun control. Thirdly, Trump apparently hosted a gay wedding at one of his premises, which only a centrist or left-leaning person would do. Fourthly, Trump is a centrist on the freedom of expression, having substantial support in some cases but not in others. One thing both Trump and Tim Pool have in common is they both support abortion at the state level... a moderate position. It seems both Tim Pool and Trump are mostly moderate centrists in many ways.

I don't think a gay-marriage supporting trans-wedding attending gun-law supporting non-free-speech absolutist moderate could ever be considered right wing. So, that would generally cover both Tim Pool and Trump. Perhaps you want to think of them as right-wing because you psychologically have a need to comply with the mainstream news requirement for Trump and Tim Pool to be bad guys in your life to be your mortal enemies? Are Kamala voters KamalaTARDS or does this only apply to your arch enemy? Or perhaps the definition of right-wing now includes people who find most free speech concepts acceptable, gay marriage acceptable, gun control just fine, and trans people acceptable, and abortion also acceptable?

Is asking loaded questions the only fallacy y'all kremlinbots have?

Tim Pool is not "anti-war", he's very much pro-Putin's-war-in-Ukraine, and being paid by Kremlin to do so.


You can't really expect to come here shilling one of the dumbest extremist youtubers and get "embraced" by everyone. Not how it works. Get yourself out of the conspiratardery cesspool if you're interested in some sort of discussion on substance but that's not really your goal, is it.

Whatever anybody has to say against Tim Pool, he is constantly bringing new info and ideas into the open. If he is doing it for profit from somewhere... why not? We all are working for profit. Tim Pool makes a lot of sense... like Alex Jones and Tucker Carlson and a whole lot of others who are conservative.

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If a guy with a long history of calling calling people pedophiles and groomers because they are gay or trans or are against removing books from schools because of lgbtq content is "neutral" than my left-right compass is definitely skewed.  

I bet if I said Tim Pool wasn't against Nazi's, White Supremacy, or the conspiracy theories about school shootings being fake because he invites people like Alex Jones, Milo, and Nick Fuentes on his show you would have responded that just because he invited them on the show doesn't mean he supports their causes....he just likes free speech.



How about the conspiracy theory that so many illegal immigrants are voting that it's swaying the outcome of elections despite after all the scrutiny of the 2020 elections turning up 30 cases of non citizens casting votes.  



What Trump and Pool have in common is their stance will reflect whatever they think will benefit them the most financially or politically.

Trump supports abortion when he's talking to swing voters one day, the next day he's bragging about abolishing roe to evangelicals, and then he will go on national TV and claim that democrats want to abort babies after they are born.

He will sign an executive order on bump stocks after a guy with a bump stock gets off 1000 rounds in 10 minutes, hitting 400 people and killing 60 (which was overturned thanks to the judges he nominated), and then a few years later he will tell the crowd at an NRA event “During my four years nothing happened. And there was great pressure on me having to do with guns. We did nothing. We didn’t yield”   "I am the best friend gun owners have ever had in the White House, your Second Amendment will always be safe with me as your president”

Trump is good to focus on the 2nd Amendment for owning guns. He is benefiting us all by doing so. After all, a gun and ammo are private property of the owner. It falls under the 4th Amendment. But if the Dems and other anti-gun people are tricked into focusing on the 2nd Amendment, they will never focus private property and the 4th Amendment.

Thank you President Trump.

Btw, you have not a clue what Trump will do once he is in office. Executive Orders aren't for average people. They are for government operations.

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Support for abortion is consistent with ending Roe v. Wade. when one takes the position that all controversial moral issues should be resolved at the local level, which is a highly rational and reasonable position to have. As for banning guns, everything that the laws of physics allow us to make is a basic human right for us to create and own. If there is is any political science study that showing a benefit to banning physical items leading to a higher level of safety, I have not seen it, but would find that interesting. It seems that humans start with the position they don't have to have any evidence of a better position in order to take away other people's things without their permission.

Oh, so someone that thinks a woman should have the right to choose whether or not she wants to grow another person inside of her also thinks the government should be able to make it illegal for her to choose not to.  Got it, thanks for explaining. Guess tim pool isn't right wing after all.

Your post is intellectually dishonest, and I strongly suggest you re-think your life in full on the concept of embracing truth. The worst part is clearly that you interpret a desire to have a civil dialog as "wanting to be embraced". You seem to specifically reject definitions that improve language because you want to disagree with everything I say while avoiding any points of agreement, and that is intellectually dishonest.

You seem to put anti-war commentators like Tim Pool who have strong leftist tendencies on a side of the political compass they don't exist on, authoritarianism, just because they are and always have been anti-war. Given Tim Pool has been against just about every single war, your comment he is for Putin invading Ukraine seems dishonest. Many people could be more akin to a pacifist than a dictator, who clearly don't support any war effort, and to you this makes them authoritarians, the exact extreme polar opposite of a dictator.  Do you also falsely categorize Jimmy Dore as an authoritarian dictator Putin puppet because he is an anti-war leftist, or is your categorization reserved for people who the mainstream news has targeted?

Your conversational focus is people and their motives, but on the internet there are just topics and their associated facts leading to or away from the truth.

If abortion and gay marriage were decided at the global level they would both be illegal. Is that your preference for legal systems? Are you cherry-picking nationalism on this issue?

TwitchySeal is simply a propagandist for the Deep State. He constantly agrees with this, even though he formally says otherwise. You can see it in the fact that he almost always presents half-truths that emphasize Deep State ideals, but ignores the reality of what is going on.

You can ignore anything he says, because like his name, his signature (seal) is almost always very 'twitchy'.

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So, done with Tim Pool then, huh?  Ok, I'll let you derail your own thread.

In my opinion, criticizing an opinion because it's not the most popular opinion is pretty dumb and not very relevant when it comes to determining whether it's a valid opinion or not.... but I'm curious what your source is for your claim about abortion and gay rights because after a few minutes of googling it appears you're wrong on both.  If you just pulled it out of your ass and admitting you were wrong is not something your comfortable with, feel free to tell me to rethink my life or tell me about how stupid polls are or something- but if not, and there's some reasonable data that backs up your claim, I'm genuinely curious if there's something I'm overlooking.  You probably would have been right about the gay marriage views 15 or 20 years ago, maybe the abortion also, but times change, peoples opinions change as humans learn more, science gradually answers more and more questions that people relied on religion for, and we all become less and less ignorant.  There's a reason they call progressives progressives, after all.

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^^^ jvanname has shown us in many of his posts, mostly in the 'Off Topic (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=9.0)' section, that science nowadays is based on scientist and university consensus rather than science fact. But the FACT is that science fact backs up the Christian religion, and often the Islam and East Asian religions.

If people in general realized and understood that abortion was murder and trust contract breaking, the charts you show would be a whole lot different.

The gay/lesbian charts only show that people tend to allow freedom to other people. But if people understood how damaging the gay/lesbian lifestyle was to the doers of it, they wouldn't do it. And if other people understood how damaging it was to society, they wouldn't allow it.

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Your chart shows the iimportance of localism in public policy. Some entire countries are about 90% in favor of making abortion illegal, and somehow you feel justified in going in and forcing your reviled ways against their moral values on them at gun point?

Since you are so much to interpreting scripture, i have wondered why you seem to have missed this quote from it:

https://talkimg.com/images/2024/09/26/gKMWC.png

Maybe we shouldn't try to combine scientific method with ambiguous texts. And saying scientific facts back up something doesn't even mean anything, without actually showing how.

But if you are showing how, please don't just link to your own site for clicks.

I can give you probably 20 scientific facts backing up the opposite claim just from the top of my head, and hundred more by googling it. So 2 vague videos doesn't cut it.

And what comes to Tim Pool, he will be financially ruined by this. I really hope that this gets lots of media following, so that we get more media focus about Tim Pool being a Russian asset (and just to see him in the court without his hat).

The death of the beast happened when Hitler essentially killed the Jewish banking system. But, as we all can see if we look, the banking system is back in strength. It is the major thing that is causing wars around the world, just for its own profit.

Scientific consensus will always back up some scientific fact. Most of the scientific fact that scientific consensus backs up is scientific fact that is reasonably obvious to the lay person. Other of it is scientific fact (or scientific consensus) that has been around for a long time and fills the textbooks, like, Newton or Einstein... to say nothing about facts and consensuses from many ages ago.

But we can see that scientific consensus is not always fact in the simple fact that Covid is snake venom poisoning rather than a viral infection of sorts. And a much broader way to show that scientific consensus is not fact is to look at the many scientific theories that were once held as facts by scientists, until they were debunked by other scientific theory consensus. Yet at the time they were held as fact by scientific consensus, they were published and advertised as fact.

If you really want proof that scientific consensus is not based in fact, make a study of the many scientific papers that contradict each other, especially in the medical field. The CDC is gradually removing these papers from public view, and is placing them where people have to buy them to get copies. Of course, when the CDC does this, they eliminate the papers that don't fit the world view they are trying to popularize among the public.

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Seems like you're cherry picking nationalism on this issue

If abortion or gay marriage were decided at the global level they would both be legal. is that your preference for legal systems?

Very good question, thanks for asking. Sovereignty can only begin at the individual level, otherwise you have unequal rights where a minority forces their morals upon a majority. This policy results in dramatically different laws in different areas because different people have different cultures, and it isn't our place to force our ways on others, an arrogant presumption that our culture of virtues and values is superior to other virtues and values.

The fact we have different rules in different places gives us many places to choose from to live according to our personal virtues and values. Finding a place that well aligns without our way of life is an important step each person in today's world should take. Forming and being part of an intentional community in today's world is of paramount importance to assert our rights while we still can, while the globalists have not yet asserted total dominance.

There is this thing called a dictionary. I don't need you to define words for me.


^^^ Speaking of "intellectually dishonest" or more likely in this case - just plain old lying.


It isn't because he is. He has repeatedly stated that Putin was "provoked" to invade Ukraine (the favorite excuse of putinists, Kremlin-approved).

You would have to redefine some words again to make it sound like Putin's "special operation" was not really war, but Ukraine defending itself is war, therefore putinists are against war.


No idea who that is, but if this Jimmy is praising Putin (with or without getting paid for it), then I would probably "categorize" him in some unflattering way.

He's exactly who you would imagine he is.  A conspiracy theorist with a youtube channel. 

"Conspiracy theorist" in this context you use name-calling word salad as an ad-hominem distraction argument. Is Jimmy Dore a leftist or not? Once again your focus on people and their alleged flaws, not the strength of arguments. You (and leftists as whole) would do well for your selves to focus on facts an evidence. Centrists like Tim Pool and Jimmy Dore who are both in favor of gay marriage legality, adult trans gender transition legality, and abortion before the third trimester, CAN focus on the facts in many cases. Just admit those issues make Tim Pool a centrist while Jimmy Dore is on your team as a leftist because of his favor for heavy economic restraint on wealthy people.

You act like there is nobody who exists who believes gay marriage should be illegal when a few short years ago that was a majority opinion. Yes, the right wing still does really exist, Those are not the people Kamala Harris seems to want to get executed the most by labeling them dictators and tyrants. The one's she labels to get those people shot at are the ones causing her problems personally... she doesn't care about general philosophies she just cares about the pragmatics of calling her enemies "tyrants" or "dictators" to get them shot at.

True or false, someone who believes in progressive taxation brackets, gay marriage legality, trans surgery legality, and abortion, leans left? If true, then it would seem you are the liar. Only you are not, because you believe your own nonsense. I comprehend reality while you do not. if you think I don't believe my own words, you are are not a liar, but worse, a fool. You blanketly believe the cartoonish nonsense offered by your corporate tool allies at the mainstream news agaisnt Tim Pool. That is you being a fool, not me being a liar.

You are lying that he's anti-war. Then you made-up this very specific criteria of how to label somewhat "leftist" so that it fits him. What's the point? He's a failed "journalist" who saw an opportunity to pander to gullible right-wing nutjobs and he's quite good at it but that doesn't make him smart or worth listening to or otherwise notable, frivolous lawsuits notwithstanding.

Yes, but, he did it successfully. You are failing at it.      8)

Of course there are people who believe gay marriage should be illegal.  

You said:


And then I responded:


I appreciate that you kind of sort of admitted you were wrong by throwing in that "a few short years ago" the majority opinion was against gay marriage.  But why try to make it look like I think there are no people against gay marriage?  It seems like you're only goal is to pwn the libs.  And you aren't doing a very good job.  You should be patient and wait for a lib to do or say something deserving of being pwnd.  When you try and force it, you risk pwning yourself.

I'm not trying to pander to right-wing nutjobs so of course I'm failing at that. Unless you're saying that I'm failing at what I am trying to do, i.e. ridiculing said nutjobs, in which case I apologize, I'll try harder next time to make you feel more ridiculed.

That's similar to what he does. But he does it successfully... especially if you consider the amount of money he is making, and the effect he is having on the world.

Keep working at it. Maybe you will catch up to him sometime... in a million years, or so.

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I don't know if being a traitorous liar is what most people would consider "success" but at least you have something to aspire to so that's great.

I think BADecker was refering to him selling NFTs, perfume, Sneakers, gold coin, bibles, pieces of the suit he wore when he was indicted (not sure if it was first, second, third or fourth time),  and as of last week $100k watches.

Before a magatard runs in and exlaims "But he's running for president, he has to raise money thats what they all do!"

Nope, these aren't campaign fundraisers, this is Trump generating personal income.  

Have you ever been right about any point you've ever made? You're so good at being wrong about everything I don't even know where to begin. Tim Pool's original fame came from being part of the Occupy Wall Street movement and Vice News... obviously leftist constructs, though I guess you have to disagree with that because you seem to insist about being wrong on every single point. Tim Pool has been against all the wars the USA has been involved in, making him anti-war.

The concept that being okay with abortion and being for legal gay marriage, have been known to be leftist constructs for decades. Yet here you are pretending they are not a big factor so you can pretend I'm a liar. The more sensible explanation is that he has a lot of positions on the left making him a centrist. This is very obvious to everyone but you. Ask around.

The problem with your ideas is that there really are people who are authoritarians who want to micromanage everything. Are they on the left or the right? The right answer is they are on the center. They want economic restraints of the left and the social restraints of the right. There are also libertarians who want neither the economic restraints of the left nor the social restraints of the right. They are libertarians not entirely unlike Tim Pool, who are also in the center.

No, it makes him a traitorous weasel. JD Vance was a never-trumper, look at him now. These types of right-wing nutjobs don't stop being right-wing nutjobs just because they may have said something different in the past or may "support" abortion by saying "states should decide it".


Ok, cool, dictators are all centrists. I didn't think you could say anything dumber than "Tim Pool is a centrist" but I stand corrected.

I wouldn't go as far as saying ALL dictators are centrist because a dictator force freedom upon people of various kinds. So no, not all dictators are centrist. If I said that, then I was incorrect. Dictators in general are centrist because they take all the terrible ideas of the left wing of heavy economic restraint. Can you at least agree on ONE point being part of the left-wing yourself: that the left wing does want economic restraints on the economy? Its the one point that all left-wing people agree on by definition, so I'd expect some agreement there.

Tim Pool because he supports abortion, is for legal gay marriage, and for progressive tax policies, is centrist or center-right, but certainly not right. I believe Tim Pool was a Bernie Sanders supporter too, definitely a far-left figure.

What "restraints"? You're just making up some nebulous definitions and demand agreement. There is no government that I'm aware of that wouldn't have some control on economy... maybe some failed states but arguably there is no government there to speak of.

If you said something along the lines "left wants more taxes, more rights for workers, etc, and right wants more protectionist tariffs, more rights for billionaires, etc" then maybe possibly potentially we could entertain the notion of there eventually being some sort of concept of a plan for agreement... and still that has nothing to do with Tim Pool and your incessant shilling for him.


He might have held a spoon with his left hand when he was a toddler. That doesn't make him leftist and matters about as much as everything else you made up in this thread.

Really suchmoon, lol, I think you can do much better than that.

It's more like the left is more concerned with teaching that there are 72 genders a (https://www.medicinenet.com/what_are_the_72_other_genders/article.htm)nd that you can change them within a few hours instead of worrying about rising prices that Biden caused with his policies and then attributed to the Ukraine war, conveniently forgetting that runaway inflation started in September 2021 due to his policies.

The left wants more taxes to house illegal immigrants in hotels, give jobs to women and soyboys graduates in gender studies and make it increasingly difficult for the self-employed to make real money, with all the regulations and taxes they put on them while they believe they are the saviors of the world from their billionaire neighborhoods where they do not suffer the consequences of those policies. Their friends in the tech companies are delighted because it costs them nothing to comply knowing that these regulations and taxes crush the possible competition that could arise. 

There is nothing left-wingers hate more than a self-employed person who goes from poor to rich as a result of his work. And if he is also white, likes to drive his gasoline car and says he likes women with skirts and long hair, they think he deserves to be shot.

And meanwhile the right wing wants to lower taxes for everyone, including the rich, because they know that this way the little man can get ahead and the investment of the rich is beneficial for everyone, unlike those countries where they hate the rich and end up all equal, equally poor except the political class.

I have not yet had time to see your answer to the other thread because I have been busy, but I have seen this sentence and I could not resist.

Lol.

If you ignore that America had one of the strongest post pandemic economic recoveries in the world.  Unemployment, GDP growth, the inevitable recession that didn't happen.  And if you think Biden hasn't worried about rising prices (despite all the things he has done to address it, and the fact that it's clearly under control now at 2.5%), then yeah Biden is awful.

And if attacking marginalized groups because of their sexual identity is a sign of strength, then yeah, Biden is weak.  If only he were strong enough to attack the most vulnerable for being different like you.

I could, but the context was specifically restraints on economy, whatever that means. I don't think the economy feels particularly "restrained" by the number of genders.

I do love how you pivot from ridiculing "billionaire neighborhoods" to how great it is to cut taxes for the rich... seems kinda contradictory.


I would suggest that we should cut taxes for everyone after everyone starts paying the same rates. No loopholes for capital gains / dividends / etc that regular wage-earners or small businesses can't take advantage of.

The proper definition of right and left CANNOT be nebulous like the modern definition, it is an unacceptable state of affairs. So, what does everyone on the left agree with, and what does everyone on the right agree with? The most agreed point on the left is to restrain the economy, including in ways redistribute wealth from the poor to the rich as you mentioned. But, the left is also FOR social liberties such as legal gay marriage, and they sometimes are and sometimes not in favor of abortion. Therefore, what can be said of the left is that they are for economic restraints but also for social liberties, which is a very specific definition of the left, unlike the current definition which is a smattering of random issues in various directions. There is a form of restraint wanted by the left for people's pocketbooks, but traditionally (less so at the moment) support for social freedoms. And because Tim Pool actually seems to support some welfare for the poor by forcing it out of the hands of the rich, that means he cannot be said to be entirely on the right at the very least.

The most agreed upon point of the right is to restrain social behavior in ways in formation of a tradition or culture, though the specific ways are not agreed upon. For a theocracy, they want to have religious requirements. Many people in conservative areas want restraints on abortion and gay marriage. The right may be heavier handed on crime because they are trying to socially restrain culture to specific behaviors deemed appropriate. But of course as discussed, the right also wants less taxes and therefore economic freedoms. This is a very simple and precise definition of the right: one who wants social constraints but economic liberties. If you want both social and economic liberties you are a libertarian. If you want neither economic liberties nor social liberties then you are an authoritarian. It makes the whole definition structure simple and highly useful to people to be able to use the words, unlike now where they are mostly just name-calling constructs.

Furthermore, you use the word "rights" to mean entitlements. Everyone has equal rights. If you are giving something to one class but not another class of people such as workers, you are not giving them a right but rather an entitlement. A right is the defense of a freedom or liberty, while an entitlement is an assurance of a specific service or ability that other people may not have. So everyone has the freedom of speech and the right to defend each other's freedom of speech. Meanwhile if your property is entirely surrounded by another person's property, you have the entitlement to get there by passing through their land. Entitlements are almost entirely an artifact of the left because they almost all cost money to deliver.

You are not going to lecture me about what you call marginalized groups because I have lived with homosexuals since I was a little boy. And no, not buying into the feminazi trash talk and the 72 gender crap doesn't mean attacking people for their sexual choices or how they want to feel.


Hey suchmoon in all these debates I don't think I ever told you that I used to think like you. Quite a few years ago. And there was a time when I realized I was wrong (although you won't see it that way). I've certainly had a much better life because of it (which is not to say that everyone will have the same experience).

This was simply to show you that if you start making demagoguery by generalizing, I can do it too.


I agree. A 15% flat tax income tax for everyone, whether you make $1K a year or make $1B would be a good idea to start with, lol.

Since we're sharing personal experiences... it wasn't until I started a business (well, more of a side hustle but still) that I realized just how full of shit the supposedly pro-business / pro-economy right-wing actually is. Trump is just the icing on the shit cake that is GOP.


???

^^^ "(well, more of a side hustle but still)"... At least now we can see why you are against a legitimate business... the kind of opportunity and atmosphere Trump would supply. Thanks for this revelation.

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Oh FFS... ok, I give up, Tim Pool is a marxist and secretly gay, does that make him less of a tool? I mean you're trying so hard to paint him as leftist, is that because you think leftists are somehow more superior therefore their opinions matter more? The guy is a babbling clown either way. If he's a leftist then he's doing an even worse job than if he was just a regular maganut.


Yeah right, because small businesses are not legitimate in your universe.

I never claimed Tim Pool is a leftist. You should pay attention to what people say and talk to them instead of past them.

You are the one who is against small businesses. You support the Dem leaders who want to make Big Business the only way of life.

Trump is MAGA at heart, which means small business success.

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Yes well, different life experiences can lead people to think differently.

In my case and generalizing, when I was left-wing, I used to think that I was a victim of circumstances, of capitalism or whatever and that the best that could happen is to hope that the state would protect me from the evil capitalists by giving me a job, a pension, etc.

The moment my thinking changed and I came to think that I am largely responsible for what will happen to me in the future, that the future is in my hands despite the circumstances, that the rich are not evil per se, and that the state instead of protecting me as a victim what it does is to put obstacles in the way that allows me to become independent from it, I did much better.

I would say that it is more normal to be left-wing when young and if you change when you grow up it is to right-wing. More likely than the other way around. In fact I know a few cases and it is like that, although the sample is very small.

The 72 gender crap is a red herring.  Same with the women's sports and bathroom issues.  I'm talking about the conservative movement led by people who think gay and trans people shouldn't exist, push homophobic/transphobic laws, and dehumanize gay and trans people by calling them pedophiles both implicitly and explicitly.  It's fucked up.

  

The rich are evil, I know from experience, the richer I get the more evil I am LOL

I don't expect the government to do anything special for me. I'm fine with it taking care of infrastructure like roads, and welfare, and some other stuff, and I expect it to be corrupt and inefficient at it but at least roughly equally terrible to everyone, as opposed to corporations being selectively terrible to those who are unprofitable to them.

Right-wing governments tend to be corrupt, inefficient, and suck bigly at their jobs. Left-wing governments tend to be corrupt, inefficient, and suck less at their jobs because they're less influenced by ideas of a libertarian utopia, which to my knowledge doesn't exist anywhere, I wonder why. In the end, every time right-wing government tells me they will cut my taxes or reduce regulations, I know they will fuck it up and I will end up paying more than my entire annual tax bill out of pocket for a private company to do some minor paperwork that was previously a job of a county clerk, and possibly also have Jeff Bezos build a distribution center on the lot of a former elementary school next door because who needs schools within walking distance or environmental permits or other nuisance regulations like that.

Maybe I'm just not rich enough, should I go work at that new distribution center, yeah that's gotta be the solution.

The rich might be evil, but the people are stupid. You can see it in the fact that the people use money voluntarily, and get taxed on it because it is voluntary.

Let's start bartering among ourselves, and stop using the money. Save a lot on taxes that way.

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Good deal, I'll give you three sacks of potatoes and an old tractor tire if you can run 1200 feet of underground fiber for me.

I'll pay you to work in my automotive shop... pay you with housing and food and etc., which I get from people whose cars you fix in my shop.

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And how will you pay your property tax.

I don't need a job or housing or food, I already have all that.

It looks like I may need to exchange my potatoes into some sort of intermediate store of value that would be acceptable for the guy who can dig a ditch for the cable. I wonder if such a thing exists.

This is a lie and it's showing your bias OP.

Tim Pool was sprung to the mainstream when he traveled to Sweden to supposedly factcheck Trump's claim that there are no go zones due to immigrants.
He played it as if he was neutral, but he came back from Sweden, arguably one of Europe's most peaceful countries and definitely more peaceful than America, cherry picking through hundreds of hours of footage to show when he was walking through literal crime scenes... Tim Pool is not an ex-centrist. He's the very definition of a Grifter and it's a Pitty if he has managed to convince you.

Why do you think that pre-eleciton one of the only interviews Trump granted was to Tim Pool? Because he's an absolute bootlicker for Trump. So much so, that he's now being indicted for receiving funding from sources thought to be the literal Russian state. Albeit Tim tries to tell everyone he's independent and neutral. Come on!

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Tim Pool was Dem in the past. He turned, as he gradually saw that Trump is right.

Sweden is peaceful because its people are asleep.


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And also your "let's stop using money so we don't have to pay taxes" idea is really just tax evasion (https://www.irs.gov/taxtopics/tc420).

Do people f Russia or Japan pay US taxes? NO!

If you want to be in the system of the US, you have agreed to pay their taxes. So, live up to your agreement.

The interesting thing is, in America you can live and operate on the land, yet not be a part of the US. So, just like Russia and Japan and all kinds of other countries, you don't owe any taxes in this case. But, if you owe, pay.

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Yup, all you need is a capable military and you can do that to any country.  I suppose a vivid imagination works as well.

I'm not sure how the leftists who visit this website are so highly rude. Perhaps most or all leftists are incapable of civil discourse. Your big "evidence" that Tim Pool is on the right is that he believes migrants in Sweden commit lots of crime, when the uptick in crime in Sweden has been a major worldwide news story for years? And on top of that, he was friendly with a definite centrist, Donald Trump? You surely must be crazy to build on top of that pile of sand to think I... Caroasi, actually think Tim Pool isn't actually a centrist leaning right?

1. Tim Pool believes gay marriage should be legal.
2. Tim Pool believes abortion should be legal
3. Tim Pool believes in a substantial progressive tax bracket system to help redistribute wealth.

When you put these three facts together its a clear DEFINITION of a centrist. In order to lie, I'd have to actually say something I believe to be false. So not only do you need to prove Tim Pool is a centrist, you have to prove I believe otherwise. You must be quite gullible to think everyone else is fooled the way you are and then build on that big pile sand to then say I believe all your political opinions and then state otherwise on purpose. While Trump may be less of a centrist than Tim Pool because of an apparent flat tax preference, he also believes abortion and gay marriage should be legal, making him also centrist leaning rather than hard right.

Everyone most universally agrees on the left that economic restraints which generally includes progressive tax brackets and wealth redistribution are a good thing, while the right considers them a bad thing. Everyone most universally agrees on the right that social restraints which generally restricts abortion and gay marriage is a good thing, while the left considers them a bad thing. If there is a more universally agreed upon principle by the left or right, you let me know.

So because Tim Pool has always supported, supports now, and continues to support, centrist things, he is a centrist. Very clear logic. I even helped write a section of a book clearly defining aspects of right and left: https://bitbucket.org/metanexom/rainbow-road/downloads/RainbowRock_2024Jun.pdf