Tim Pool Sues Kamala Harris Over Alleged Plan to Execute Trump Opponents

[TwitchySeal]

Support for abortion is consistent with ending Roe v. Wade.

Oh, so someone that thinks a woman should have the right to choose whether or not she wants to grow another person inside of her also thinks the government should be able to make it illegal for her to choose not to.  Got it, thanks for explaining. Guess tim pool isn't right wing after all.

If abortion and gay marriage were decided at the global level they would both be illegal. Is that your preference for legal systems? Are you cherry-picking nationalism on this issue?

So, done with Tim Pool then, huh?  Ok, I'll let you derail your own thread.

In my opinion, criticizing an opinion because it's not the most popular opinion is pretty dumb and not very relevant when it comes to determining whether it's a valid opinion or not.... but I'm curious what your source is for your claim about abortion and gay rights because after a few minutes of googling it appears you're wrong on both.  If you just pulled it out of your ass and admitting you were wrong is not something your comfortable with, feel free to tell me to rethink my life or tell me about how stupid polls are or something- but if not, and there's some reasonable data that backs up your claim, I'm genuinely curious if there's something I'm overlooking.  You probably would have been right about the gay marriage views 15 or 20 years ago, maybe the abortion also, but times change, peoples opinions change as humans learn more, science gradually answers more and more questions that people relied on religion for, and we all become less and less ignorant.  There's a reason they call progressives progressives, after all.

Your chart shows the iimportance of localism in public policy. Some entire countries are about 90% in favor of making abortion illegal, and somehow you feel justified in going in and forcing your reviled ways against their moral values on them at gun point?

Seems like you're cherry picking nationalism on this issue

If abortion or gay marriage were decided at the global level they would both be legal. is that your preference for legal systems?

[caroasi]

Support for abortion is consistent with ending Roe v. Wade.

Oh, so someone that thinks a woman should have the right to choose whether or not she wants to grow another person inside of her also thinks the government should be able to make it illegal for her to choose not to.  Got it, thanks for explaining. Guess tim pool isn't right wing after all.

If abortion and gay marriage were decided at the global level they would both be illegal. Is that your preference for legal systems? Are you cherry-picking nationalism on this issue?

So, done with Tim Pool then, huh?  Ok, I'll let you derail your own thread.

In my opinion, criticizing an opinion because it's not the most popular opinion is pretty dumb and not very relevant when it comes to determining whether it's a valid opinion or not.... but I'm curious what your source is for your claim about abortion and gay rights because after a few minutes of googling it appears you're wrong on both.  If you just pulled it out of your ass and admitting you were wrong is not something your comfortable with, feel free to tell me to rethink my life or tell me about how stupid polls are or something- but if not, and there's some reasonable data that backs up your claim, I'm genuinely curious if there's something I'm overlooking.  You probably would have been right about the gay marriage views 15 or 20 years ago, maybe the abortion also, but times change, peoples opinions change as humans learn more, science gradually answers more and more questions that people relied on religion for, and we all become less and less ignorant.  There's a reason they call progressives progressives, after all.

Your chart shows the iimportance of localism in public policy. Some entire countries are about 90% in favor of making abortion illegal, and somehow you feel justified in going in and forcing your reviled ways against their moral values on them at gun point?

Seems like you're cherry picking nationalism on this issue

If abortion or gay marriage were decided at the global level they would both be legal. is that your preference for legal systems?

Very good question, thanks for asking. Sovereignty can only begin at the individual level, otherwise you have unequal rights where a minority forces their morals upon a majority. This policy results in dramatically different laws in different areas because different people have different cultures, and it isn't our place to force our ways on others, an arrogant presumption that our culture of virtues and values is superior to other virtues and values.

The fact we have different rules in different places gives us many places to choose from to live according to our personal virtues and values. Finding a place that well aligns without our way of life is an important step each person in today's world should take. Forming and being part of an intentional community in today's world is of paramount importance to assert our rights while we still can, while the globalists have not yet asserted total dominance.

[suchmoon]

Your post is intellectually dishonest, and I strongly suggest you re-think your life in full on the concept of embracing truth. The worst part is clearly that you interpret a desire to have a civil dialog as "wanting to be embraced". You seem to specifically reject definitions that improve language because you want to disagree with everything I say while avoiding any points of agreement, and that is intellectually dishonest.

There is this thing called a dictionary. I don't need you to define words for me.

You seem to put anti-war commentators like Tim Pool who have strong leftist tendencies

^^^ Speaking of "intellectually dishonest" or more likely in this case - just plain old lying.

your comment he is for Putin invading Ukraine seems dishonest

It isn't because he is. He has repeatedly stated that Putin was "provoked" to invade Ukraine (the favorite excuse of putinists, Kremlin-approved).

You would have to redefine some words again to make it sound like Putin's "special operation" was not really war, but Ukraine defending itself is war, therefore putinists are against war.

Do you also falsely categorize Jimmy Dore as an authoritarian dictator Putin puppet because he is an anti-war leftist, or is your categorization reserved for people who the mainstream news has targeted?

No idea who that is, but if this Jimmy is praising Putin (with or without getting paid for it), then I would probably "categorize" him in some unflattering way.

[TwitchySeal]

Do you also falsely categorize Jimmy Dore as an authoritarian dictator Putin puppet because he is an anti-war leftist, or is your categorization reserved for people who the mainstream news has targeted?

No idea who that is, but if this Jimmy is praising Putin (with or without getting paid for it), then I would probably "categorize" him in some unflattering way.

He's exactly who you would imagine he is.  A conspiracy theorist with a youtube channel. 

James Patrick Anthony Dore is an American stand-up comedian, political commentator, conspiracy theorist, podcaster and YouTube personality.

[caroasi]

Do you also falsely categorize Jimmy Dore as an authoritarian dictator Putin puppet because he is an anti-war leftist, or is your categorization reserved for people who the mainstream news has targeted?

No idea who that is, but if this Jimmy is praising Putin (with or without getting paid for it), then I would probably "categorize" him in some unflattering way.

He's exactly who you would imagine he is.  A conspiracy theorist with a youtube channel. 

James Patrick Anthony Dore is an American stand-up comedian, political commentator, conspiracy theorist, podcaster and YouTube personality.

"Conspiracy theorist" in this context you use name-calling word salad as an ad-hominem distraction argument. Is Jimmy Dore a leftist or not? Once again your focus on people and their alleged flaws, not the strength of arguments. You (and leftists as whole) would do well for your selves to focus on facts an evidence. Centrists like Tim Pool and Jimmy Dore who are both in favor of gay marriage legality, adult trans gender transition legality, and abortion before the third trimester, CAN focus on the facts in many cases. Just admit those issues make Tim Pool a centrist while Jimmy Dore is on your team as a leftist because of his favor for heavy economic restraint on wealthy people.

You act like there is nobody who exists who believes gay marriage should be illegal when a few short years ago that was a majority opinion. Yes, the right wing still does really exist, Those are not the people Kamala Harris seems to want to get executed the most by labeling them dictators and tyrants. The one's she labels to get those people shot at are the ones causing her problems personally... she doesn't care about general philosophies she just cares about the pragmatics of calling her enemies "tyrants" or "dictators" to get them shot at.

[caroasi]

Your post is intellectually dishonest, and I strongly suggest you re-think your life in full on the concept of embracing truth. The worst part is clearly that you interpret a desire to have a civil dialog as "wanting to be embraced". You seem to specifically reject definitions that improve language because you want to disagree with everything I say while avoiding any points of agreement, and that is intellectually dishonest.

There is this thing called a dictionary. I don't need you to define words for me.

You seem to put anti-war commentators like Tim Pool who have strong leftist tendencies

^^^ Speaking of "intellectually dishonest" or more likely in this case - just plain old lying.

your comment he is for Putin invading Ukraine seems dishonest

It isn't because he is. He has repeatedly stated that Putin was "provoked" to invade Ukraine (the favorite excuse of putinists, Kremlin-approved).

You would have to redefine some words again to make it sound like Putin's "special operation" was not really war, but Ukraine defending itself is war, therefore putinists are against war.

Do you also falsely categorize Jimmy Dore as an authoritarian dictator Putin puppet because he is an anti-war leftist, or is your categorization reserved for people who the mainstream news has targeted?

No idea who that is, but if this Jimmy is praising Putin (with or without getting paid for it), then I would probably "categorize" him in some unflattering way.

True or false, someone who believes in progressive taxation brackets, gay marriage legality, trans surgery legality, and abortion, leans left? If true, then it would seem you are the liar. Only you are not, because you believe your own nonsense. I comprehend reality while you do not. if you think I don't believe my own words, you are are not a liar, but worse, a fool. You blanketly believe the cartoonish nonsense offered by your corporate tool allies at the mainstream news agaisnt Tim Pool. That is you being a fool, not me being a liar.

[suchmoon]

True or false, someone who believes in progressive taxation brackets, gay marriage legality, trans surgery legality, and abortion, leans left? If true, then it would seem you are the liar. Only you are not, because you believe your own nonsense. I comprehend reality while you do not. if you think I don't believe my own words, you are are not a liar, but worse, a fool. You blanketly believe the cartoonish nonsense offered by your corporate tool allies at the mainstream news agaisnt Tim Pool. That is you being a fool, not me being a liar.

You are lying that he's anti-war. Then you made-up this very specific criteria of how to label somewhat "leftist" so that it fits him. What's the point? He's a failed "journalist" who saw an opportunity to pander to gullible right-wing nutjobs and he's quite good at it but that doesn't make him smart or worth listening to or otherwise notable, frivolous lawsuits notwithstanding.

[BADecker]

True or false, someone who believes in progressive taxation brackets, gay marriage legality, trans surgery legality, and abortion, leans left? If true, then it would seem you are the liar. Only you are not, because you believe your own nonsense. I comprehend reality while you do not. if you think I don't believe my own words, you are are not a liar, but worse, a fool. You blanketly believe the cartoonish nonsense offered by your corporate tool allies at the mainstream news agaisnt Tim Pool. That is you being a fool, not me being a liar.

You are lying that he's anti-war. Then you made-up this very specific criteria of how to label somewhat "leftist" so that it fits him. What's the point? He's a failed "journalist" who saw an opportunity to pander to gullible right-wing nutjobs and he's quite good at it but that doesn't make him smart or worth listening to or otherwise notable, frivolous lawsuits notwithstanding.

Yes, but, he did it successfully. You are failing at it.     

[TwitchySeal]

You act like there is nobody who exists who believes gay marriage should be illegal when a few short years ago that was a majority opinion.

Of course there are people who believe gay marriage should be illegal.  

You said:

If abortion and gay marriage were decided at the global level they would both be illegal.

And then I responded:

I'm curious what your source is for your claim about abortion and gay rights because after a few minutes of googling it appears you're wrong on both.  If you just pulled it out of your ass and admitting you were wrong is not something your comfortable with, feel free to tell me to rethink my life or tell me about how stupid polls are or something- but if not, and there's some reasonable data that backs up your claim, I'm genuinely curious if there's something I'm overlooking.

I appreciate that you kind of sort of admitted you were wrong by throwing in that "a few short years ago" the majority opinion was against gay marriage.  But why try to make it look like I think there are no people against gay marriage?  It seems like you're only goal is to pwn the libs.  And you aren't doing a very good job.  You should be patient and wait for a lib to do or say something deserving of being pwnd.  When you try and force it, you risk pwning yourself.

[suchmoon]

You are lying that he's anti-war. Then you made-up this very specific criteria of how to label somewhat "leftist" so that it fits him. What's the point? He's a failed "journalist" who saw an opportunity to pander to gullible right-wing nutjobs and he's quite good at it but that doesn't make him smart or worth listening to or otherwise notable, frivolous lawsuits notwithstanding.

Yes, but, he did it successfully. You are failing at it.     

I'm not trying to pander to right-wing nutjobs so of course I'm failing at that. Unless you're saying that I'm failing at what I am trying to do, i.e. ridiculing said nutjobs, in which case I apologize, I'll try harder next time to make you feel more ridiculed.

[BADecker]

You are lying that he's anti-war. Then you made-up this very specific criteria of how to label somewhat "leftist" so that it fits him. What's the point? He's a failed "journalist" who saw an opportunity to pander to gullible right-wing nutjobs and he's quite good at it but that doesn't make him smart or worth listening to or otherwise notable, frivolous lawsuits notwithstanding.

Yes, but, he did it successfully. You are failing at it.     

I'm not trying to pander to right-wing nutjobs so of course I'm failing at that. Unless you're saying that I'm failing at what I am trying to do, i.e. ridiculing said nutjobs, in which case I apologize, I'll try harder next time to make you feel more ridiculed.

That's similar to what he does. But he does it successfully... especially if you consider the amount of money he is making, and the effect he is having on the world.

Keep working at it. Maybe you will catch up to him sometime... in a million years, or so.

[suchmoon]

That's similar to what he does. But he does it successfully... especially if you consider the amount of money he is making, and the effect he is having on the world.

I don't know if being a traitorous liar is what most people would consider "success" but at least you have something to aspire to so that's great.

[TwitchySeal]

That's similar to what he does. But he does it successfully... especially if you consider the amount of money he is making, and the effect he is having on the world.

I don't know if being a traitorous liar is what most people would consider "success" but at least you have something to aspire to so that's great.

I think BADecker was refering to him selling NFTs, perfume, Sneakers, gold coin, bibles, pieces of the suit he wore when he was indicted (not sure if it was first, second, third or fourth time),  and as of last week $100k watches.

Before a magatard runs in and exlaims "But he's running for president, he has to raise money thats what they all do!"

Nope, these aren't campaign fundraisers, this is Trump generating personal income.  

[caroasi]

True or false, someone who believes in progressive taxation brackets, gay marriage legality, trans surgery legality, and abortion, leans left? If true, then it would seem you are the liar. Only you are not, because you believe your own nonsense. I comprehend reality while you do not. if you think I don't believe my own words, you are are not a liar, but worse, a fool. You blanketly believe the cartoonish nonsense offered by your corporate tool allies at the mainstream news agaisnt Tim Pool. That is you being a fool, not me being a liar.

You are lying that he's anti-war. Then you made-up this very specific criteria of how to label somewhat "leftist" so that it fits him. What's the point? He's a failed "journalist" who saw an opportunity to pander to gullible right-wing nutjobs and he's quite good at it but that doesn't make him smart or worth listening to or otherwise notable, frivolous lawsuits notwithstanding.

Have you ever been right about any point you've ever made? You're so good at being wrong about everything I don't even know where to begin. Tim Pool's original fame came from being part of the Occupy Wall Street movement and Vice News... obviously leftist constructs, though I guess you have to disagree with that because you seem to insist about being wrong on every single point. Tim Pool has been against all the wars the USA has been involved in, making him anti-war.

The concept that being okay with abortion and being for legal gay marriage, have been known to be leftist constructs for decades. Yet here you are pretending they are not a big factor so you can pretend I'm a liar. The more sensible explanation is that he has a lot of positions on the left making him a centrist. This is very obvious to everyone but you. Ask around.

The problem with your ideas is that there really are people who are authoritarians who want to micromanage everything. Are they on the left or the right? The right answer is they are on the center. They want economic restraints of the left and the social restraints of the right. There are also libertarians who want neither the economic restraints of the left nor the social restraints of the right. They are libertarians not entirely unlike Tim Pool, who are also in the center.

[suchmoon]

Have you ever been right about any point you've ever made? You're so good at being wrong about everything I don't even know where to begin. Tim Pool's original fame came from being part of the Occupy Wall Street movement and Vice News... obviously leftist constructs, though I guess you have to disagree with that because you seem to insist about being wrong on every single point. Tim Pool has been against all the wars the USA has been involved in, making him anti-war.

No, it makes him a traitorous weasel. JD Vance was a never-trumper, look at him now. These types of right-wing nutjobs don't stop being right-wing nutjobs just because they may have said something different in the past or may "support" abortion by saying "states should decide it".

The problem with your ideas is that there really are people who are authoritarians who want to micromanage everything. Are they on the left or the right? The right answer is they are on the center. They want economic restraints of the left and the social restraints of the right. There are also libertarians who want neither the economic restraints of the left nor the social restraints of the right. They are libertarians not entirely unlike Tim Pool, who are also in the center.

Ok, cool, dictators are all centrists. I didn't think you could say anything dumber than "Tim Pool is a centrist" but I stand corrected.

[caroasi]

Have you ever been right about any point you've ever made? You're so good at being wrong about everything I don't even know where to begin. Tim Pool's original fame came from being part of the Occupy Wall Street movement and Vice News... obviously leftist constructs, though I guess you have to disagree with that because you seem to insist about being wrong on every single point. Tim Pool has been against all the wars the USA has been involved in, making him anti-war.

No, it makes him a traitorous weasel. JD Vance was a never-trumper, look at him now. These types of right-wing nutjobs don't stop being right-wing nutjobs just because they may have said something different in the past or may "support" abortion by saying "states should decide it".

The problem with your ideas is that there really are people who are authoritarians who want to micromanage everything. Are they on the left or the right? The right answer is they are on the center. They want economic restraints of the left and the social restraints of the right. There are also libertarians who want neither the economic restraints of the left nor the social restraints of the right. They are libertarians not entirely unlike Tim Pool, who are also in the center.

Ok, cool, dictators are all centrists. I didn't think you could say anything dumber than "Tim Pool is a centrist" but I stand corrected.

I wouldn't go as far as saying ALL dictators are centrist because a dictator force freedom upon people of various kinds. So no, not all dictators are centrist. If I said that, then I was incorrect. Dictators in general are centrist because they take all the terrible ideas of the left wing of heavy economic restraint. Can you at least agree on ONE point being part of the left-wing yourself: that the left wing does want economic restraints on the economy? Its the one point that all left-wing people agree on by definition, so I'd expect some agreement there.

Tim Pool because he supports abortion, is for legal gay marriage, and for progressive tax policies, is centrist or center-right, but certainly not right. I believe Tim Pool was a Bernie Sanders supporter too, definitely a far-left figure.

[suchmoon]

Can you at least agree on ONE point being part of the left-wing yourself: that the left wing does want economic restraints on the economy? Its the one point that all left-wing people agree on by definition, so I'd expect some agreement there.

What "restraints"? You're just making up some nebulous definitions and demand agreement. There is no government that I'm aware of that wouldn't have some control on economy... maybe some failed states but arguably there is no government there to speak of.

If you said something along the lines "left wants more taxes, more rights for workers, etc, and right wants more protectionist tariffs, more rights for billionaires, etc" then maybe possibly potentially we could entertain the notion of there eventually being some sort of concept of a plan for agreement... and still that has nothing to do with Tim Pool and your incessant shilling for him.

Tim Pool because he supports abortion, is for legal gay marriage, and for progressive tax policies, is centrist or center-right, but certainly not right. I believe Tim Pool was a Bernie Sanders supporter too, definitely a far-left figure.

He might have held a spoon with his left hand when he was a toddler. That doesn't make him leftist and matters about as much as everything else you made up in this thread.

[Poker Player]

If you said something along the lines "left wants more taxes, more rights for workers, etc, and right wants more protectionist tariffs, more rights for billionaires, etc" then maybe possibly potentially we could entertain the notion of there eventually being some sort of concept of a plan for agreement...

Really suchmoon, lol, I think you can do much better than that.

It's more like the left is more concerned with teaching that there are 72 genders and that you can change them within a few hours instead of worrying about rising prices that Biden caused with his policies and then attributed to the Ukraine war, conveniently forgetting that runaway inflation started in September 2021 due to his policies.

The left wants more taxes to house illegal immigrants in hotels, give jobs to women and soyboys graduates in gender studies and make it increasingly difficult for the self-employed to make real money, with all the regulations and taxes they put on them while they believe they are the saviors of the world from their billionaire neighborhoods where they do not suffer the consequences of those policies. Their friends in the tech companies are delighted because it costs them nothing to comply knowing that these regulations and taxes crush the possible competition that could arise. 

There is nothing left-wingers hate more than a self-employed person who goes from poor to rich as a result of his work. And if he is also white, likes to drive his gasoline car and says he likes women with skirts and long hair, they think he deserves to be shot.

And meanwhile the right wing wants to lower taxes for everyone, including the rich, because they know that this way the little man can get ahead and the investment of the rich is beneficial for everyone, unlike those countries where they hate the rich and end up all equal, equally poor except the political class.

I have not yet had time to see your answer to the other thread because I have been busy, but I have seen this sentence and I could not resist.

Lol.

[TwitchySeal]

If you said something along the lines "left wants more taxes, more rights for workers, etc, and right wants more protectionist tariffs, more rights for billionaires, etc" then maybe possibly potentially we could entertain the notion of there eventually being some sort of concept of a plan for agreement...

Really suchmoon, lol, I think you can do much better than that.

It's more like the left is more concerned with teaching that there are 72 genders and that you can change them within a few hours instead of worrying about rising prices that Biden caused with his policies and then attributed to the Ukraine war, conveniently forgetting that runaway inflation started in September 2021 due to his policies.

If you ignore that America had one of the strongest post pandemic economic recoveries in the world.  Unemployment, GDP growth, the inevitable recession that didn't happen.  And if you think Biden hasn't worried about rising prices (despite all the things he has done to address it, and the fact that it's clearly under control now at 2.5%), then yeah Biden is awful.

And if attacking marginalized groups because of their sexual identity is a sign of strength, then yeah, Biden is weak.  If only he were strong enough to attack the most vulnerable for being different like you.

[suchmoon]

If you said something along the lines "left wants more taxes, more rights for workers, etc, and right wants more protectionist tariffs, more rights for billionaires, etc" then maybe possibly potentially we could entertain the notion of there eventually being some sort of concept of a plan for agreement...

Really suchmoon, lol, I think you can do much better than that.

I could, but the context was specifically restraints on economy, whatever that means. I don't think the economy feels particularly "restrained" by the number of genders.

I do love how you pivot from ridiculing "billionaire neighborhoods" to how great it is to cut taxes for the rich... seems kinda contradictory.

And meanwhile the right wing wants to lower taxes for everyone, including the rich, because they know that this way the little man can get ahead and the investment of the rich is beneficial for everyone

I would suggest that we should cut taxes for everyone after everyone starts paying the same rates. No loopholes for capital gains / dividends / etc that regular wage-earners or small businesses can't take advantage of.