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"a fan launched a social media campaign last month pleading with the gaming company for equality, but Nintendo insists their creative choice wasn't designed to offend."

http://www.rollingstone.com/culture/news/nintendo-game-faces-criticism-over-lack-of-gay-characters-20140507

I played Fable III and I could have done without the large amount of homosexual references in it.

It's fine if it's in there or if your character is gay but almost every other character is gay. It detracted from the game. I was there to play not be taught some life lesson in equality or whatever statement they were trying to make.

Well, I posted this comment on the other thread and the OP deleted it:

I welcome the decision by Nintendo. They have heard the appeals from their users in Asia, Africa, Russia and Latin America, where 99% of the population is opposed to homosexuality.

lol nice, I don't like The Irishman and his moderation tactics, creating duplicate posts will probably give him something to think about.

Edit: har har, you can't delete this post complaining about you.

Better to post here than posting in some self-moderated thread.

And BTW... there is nothing wrong in what Nintendo did. If someone is upset about it, then they can go with some other company.

I don't really agree with The Irishman self-moderating his threads and deleting replies he doesn't like, but judging by the replies in here it doesn't surprise me. I guess you can add [bigoted version] to the thread title to avoid confusion.

I don't think you know what bigoted means lol :D sometimes I can't resist showing your posts and they do make me laugh at times.

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/Bigot?s=t


Yeah, so that means that in order to be a bigot you have to be intolerable of just about anything that isn't you, not one or two things, so it looks like not only do you not know what racism actually is you seem to be unaware of various words as well.

Really the only ones here who are bigots are you and The Irishman because you consider people who have a different opinion to you bigots and you attack them lolz irony.

Good for them for having the balls to make a statement. It's starting to get tiring will all this in-your-face gayism creeping in from everywhere.

Agreed with that statement. This guy will call more than 90% of the users here as bigots, ignorant and racists, just because they don't agree to his twisted political beliefs.

I thought you didn't read my posts Lethn? You obviously do but only reply when you think an opportunity has arisen for you to get one over on me, but as usual you rush in and present only ignorance. The rest of the time when you know you can't make an intelligent reply you just keep quiet hiding behind that 'ignore' button that you quite clearly only like telling people you've used it on as an excuse to get out of arguing with people far more intelligent than you.

And you're being quite selective with your definition there. I'm not intolerant of other peoples views either if you even bother to read my post in the other thread. You can and are free to make ignorant, racist, xenophobic, intolerant shit all you want, but doesn't mean I won't call you out on it.

To be a bigot you don't have to hate every other thing in the world, but Bryant seems to have quite the penchant for disliking a lot of things like Muslims and immigrants and homosexuals etc and that to me seems pretty intolerant or bigoted or whatever you wish to call it. You're probably not that much of a bigot, but you are an infinite tool.

Unfortunately I don't need your certificate to prove anything. You can be a crybaby and play the racism card all day long, and people will not bother about it. May be things work out like that in England, but definitely not across the world.

Regardless of what the replies here are like, it fundamentally represents a part of the community you're in and their beliefs. Ignoring that and cherry picking what you want to hear, like TheIrishman is doing, seems self-delusional.

On the other hand, if a large majority here support Nintendo's move, a lot of people would perhaps feel intimidated and not express themselves in an open thread, but are more likely to do so in his thread.

What racism card do I play exactly? You can't say things that are completely racist or which obviously show your distaste of certain minorities and groups then complain and cry when people call you out on them. Thankfully not everyone in the world holds the same beliefs as you.

OK... I have tolerated your shit for too long. Time to add you to my ignore list. Now fight with someone else.

I have nothing against homosexuality in the slightest, in fact, I think as a straight man you'd have to be a moron to not support it ( see my previous explanations about population numbers for reasons why ), but when people start funnelling others with different orientations from them into their own preferences without telling them they're going to do it it's pretty ridiculous.

Playing game with sex:

Welcome!

Choose your gender:

Male

Choose your man:

Man 1

Man 2

Man 3

Man 4

Man 5

Man 6

.... WTF?! Why can't I just choose a girl to fuck?! Oh well, guess I'll just get round it by picking a woman this time and playing as a lesbian at least I'll get more fun and excitement out of it, sure they could make it into a game about homosexuality specifically but doing the opposite is the equivalent of labelling 'gay porn' as 'cute lesbian girls fucking each other with a strapon' and expecting me to be happy about it.

p.s. I see that these people haven't taken a look at eroge/hentai games or Fallout New Vegas ( which allows same-sex flirting ) now I think about it.

That's a shame you're pulling a Lethn. Sounds like you're tired of being in the wrong and using that ignore button as an excuse to not even bother like he does. Read the other thread. I actually think you have a lot of intelligent things to say (unlike Lethn), but you just seem to mix it up with stuff I just think is completely ignorant and I fundamentally don't agree with, nor do I understand your reasons for believing in it a lot of the time, but if you don't want to continue in intelligent discussions or making your point, then fair enough. I can't do anything about that.

I am ok with the way this is playing out. A private company creates a game. A group online say they want them to change it. The private company says they do not want to. The online group can now either protest it, not buy from that company, work with the company toward combined future interests...whichever.

Fortunately the government was not brought in to use the force of a gun to make the decision.

We, as Bitcoin users, could see a new video game using their own online currency and get together to ask them to use bitcoins instead. It would be their decision. If we had enough support and felt it important enough we could get together to create our own game with bitcoin included or lobby companies to do so with the knowledge that their sales will benefit from it.

Well... I am afraid that it is going to happen quite soon. It is just a matter of days before the blackmail tactics come out in the open. There will be several (forced) boycotts of Nintendos. Their merchandise will be taken off the supermarkets, and online shopping sites for example.

I think you overestimate the concern of those in power for these types of matters. If it is convenient for them to do so, like in the case of Russia recently, they will take advantage of it; but for a multinational corporation? I doubt it.

People are free to boycott whatever they want are they not? You seem to be fine with people boycotting Subway stores when they start selling only Halal meat.

If it can happen to the Russian products like this one:

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-23506425

then it can happen to Nintendo also.

I myself was deleted by the irish man and I wanna support what nintendo descision in not allowing two same sex relationship in the game.  Also  wanted to know this doesnt allow children who are not naturally gay to comprehend being gay is ok.    Im saying this due to the nature and nurture controversy stand point of view

Could you please copy-paste exactly the same comment here? Want to check myself whether it is offensive by any means.

I said this maybe it was offensive "I agree with this as we dont have enough of movies and TV showing this its ok to be gay.  Im not to judge homosexuality but to me this can just lead children into getting curious, not being gay from nature point of you"

You're either gay or you're not. Straight kids don't see homosexual or homoerotic acts on TV or video games and suddenly become bi-curious or gay. And what do you mean by 'not being gay from nature point of you'?

Well its a controversey google it, its called "The nature and nurture controversy.   Like for example a friend of mine was molested, molestation has caused him to become gay.  Now if the boy is born with a femenistic chartarstic he might be gay cause of a mistake in nature, he was born that way.  This is the nature and nurture controversey.  

First of all I would like to thank you for not having this stupid "This is a self-moderated topic. If you do not want to be moderated by the person who started this topic, create a new topic." like on the other thread.

The pink mafia is not fully realizing the damage it is doing to its community in the long run. They've been going full Stasi Mode in the past few years thinking people are joining their cause, not by fear, but because they agree with their tactics.

You may scare some people and organization for now but you are definitely isolating your own community even more.

Bigots love to confuse people like you. It is a well known fact  ;D ;D ;D

That's called being a judgemental prick and reinforcing that on everybody else through abuse of the law, if people want to be gay or your children want to be gay that's their fucking business and just so you know I'm aware of the beliefs of other people on this thread and on this forum and I'm not picking on you in particular. Equally though, people should know by now that I am a freedom of speech extremist, you have every right to say whatever you like about homosexuals but equally I have every right to call you a moron and if somebody wants to make a video game featuring only straight sex that's their choice, equally, if somebody wants to make a game that only has homosexual relationships in it or even both that's their choice to make as well.

My main point is both sides are just as bad because they're using harassing tactics and political pressure to try and override a private citizen or company making their own choices in life just because they don't like what they have to say, I think people who hate homosexuals are morons, but I'm not going to go organise a protest movement, use political pressure or harass them because of that, I will say it to their faces though.

I dont hate homosexuality.  So your basically saying my freind didnt become gay cause he wasnt molested?  Its wasnt his choice to get sexually harrassed by another men who was gay and sick.  Also when I was in Europe, there were kids that had feminine charteristics but they werent gay cause they are not exposed to it as the Westerners are.  SO there is no choice to be given, is taught from what is right and wrong.  One day Its going to marry young girls too in werstern society.  Its all the same thing, is that we lost all morality and being in touch with religion this has happened.

Bwahahahahhahahaha holy shit, Lethn. Just when I think you can't get any more moronic or hypocritical or just downright contradictory you come out with that gem. So, you're a 'freedom of speech extremist'... until somebody says something you don't like or can't argue against, then click goes that ignore button. Yeah, you really believe in freedom of speech all right  ::).


How do you know conclusively it was the abuse that caused him to become gay?

Dont know but he told me he did the same mistake because of it, and that he started to like it.  So with him getting to learn to like a feeling in love or to be touched by a female he got exposed to being felt by another man first.  By the way im ending it here.  Its my opinion and beleif and no one has to take my side for it. 

+1
Most of the common people don't even bother about the homosexuals. They will say, just don't bother us and we will not bother you. But when some gay rights guy forces everyone to attend gay pride parade and calls for gay sex to be included in the curriculum for kindergarten kids, then I am afraid that they are crossing the limits.

If children at this age are not aware of sexual orientation then they wouldn't see any difference between gay and straight couples. But, of course, this is the point.
There's a reason children are so homophobic: they grow up in a world where they are almost exclusively, and in some cases completely exclusively exposed to straight relationships. Then, when they learn about people being gay, they naturally see this as an aberration, a deviant state.

Have I reported you or tried to get you banned? No, then you can't complain, you can still say whatever you like, it doesn't mean I personally have to read your bullshit or listen to it.

+1   Totally agree

Also how come Irishman duplicated a thread without getting banned or thread deleted, is there favoritism in this forum?

I'm sure if you had the power to do so you would do whatever you can to try censor, silence or even ban me, but the issue here is you do read what I say, you just hide behind that ignore button like a child hides behind his mummy until you think you've found something you can comment on, and you put people on ignore for the slightest of things (saying something you vaguely don't like, and that list is practically infinite). It's not really about 'my bullshit' as you put me on ignore just for jokingly casting doubt on some of your BS claims like all those perverse women you claimed to know. Your ego just gets bruised easily when someone calls you out on your BS.


He probably started the thread but made it self-moderated so this one was created to voice their opinions without having them deleted. You are free to do this.

You want homosexuality to be taught to the kindergarten kids? I disagree with that. When they reach 14-15 years of age, they can be taught about homosexuality. Until then, leave them alone.

What age do you think kids should start being taught sex education? Most kids are having sex by 15-16. You're leaving it a but late. Lack of sex education usually leads to teen pregnancies and STDs.

No i don't want the kids to be teached about homosexuality in kindergarden!I don't want to be racisit but i am not a fan of homosexuals,and i also don't like the way media encourage them.But what can i do?from games to news you hear about homosexuality.

The minority will get dominant, if they are vocal about their rights. The majority meanwhile, is afraid to speak up, for the fear of getting branded as homophobic and racist. And in turn, their rights are ignored. This is the problem everywhere.

Haha. I think you have a misunderstanding of what teaching kids about homosexuality is. They're not showing them gay porn and teaching them how to douche themselves. Kids don't need to be taught about sex in kindergarten, but they do in early high school. Homosexuality is a part  of sexuality and of life and they should be made aware of this and that there's nothing wrong with it.


Nah, that's just your fear kicking in. If you genuinely believed in this and was passionate about it and believed it to be the truth then you should stand up and wouldn’t care, but I think racists and homophobes should be ashamed and scared to air their views.

It's a game, not intended to be an instrument of social change.

You don't like it; don't play it.

Jesus, is there anything else people want to whine about?

It doesn't mean anything to anyone unless you're completely ignorant and intolerant. He really just has an overwhelming fear of The Rise of Gays and Muslims (but he's not homophobic and Islamaphobia doesn't exist according to him).


Muslims, immigrants, foreigners, women, ginger people...  :D

May be. But that doesn't mean that everyone should be forced to attend a pride parade or made to watch pro-gay programs on the television. It should be up to the individual.

OK, let's start a thread about ginger people.

I like that.

Does the russian vodka prevents them from assfucking? If so, then it's a sign of a major issue. Maybe it would be wise decision to use vodka on the direct purpose, not for assfucking.

Why should we care, how somebody uses his genitals? Seriously, this is ridiculous.  ::)

I thought that the word ginger was a racial pejorative or ethnic slur, which should not be used in public. And look at the person who has used it... A self-proclaimed anti-racism crusader. Next time, use the phrase Red haired people instead.

Who the hell is forcing people to go to gay parades or watch TV? Pretty sure you have the individual right to turn the TV off or to a different channel.


Since when have I proclaimed to by an 'anti-racism crusader'? I guess you can call me that though if it means not being intolerant for no good reason and/or any normal and rational open-minded person who isn't bothered by certain groups who have no bearing on their life whatsoever.  

Ok if people are going to accept this, then enjoy the future when kids where born a woman, the will get a sex change, to become a man then later on they gonna wanna have babies cause is there blood to wanna birth a child.  oh we will see many man giving birth in the hospitals.  

It's a game for a portable console, it is targeted for kids. People should stop taking game features so seriously. They are better off protesting to Disney why there are no gay characters in Disney animations  ;)

I'm sure there's a universe somewhere where what you just said makes sense, or actually happens lol

This kind of manufactured outrage dealt out by political pressure groups isn't unusual though, just to show that I'm on niether side of the fence does remember what happened with Spongebob Squarepants?

http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2012/08/17/spongebob-squarepants-gay-cartoon-characters_n_1796094.html

It's all just a load of bullshit, I didn't know Ukraine made a big deal about this but I know it filtered to the American Christian groups as well who decided to get wound up about it.

Where's the problem? It's a company's exclusive decision not to promote homosexualism, they aren't running anti-gay campaing or something.

People you do not agree with should be scared of expressing themselves?

Perhaps they should fear the gas chamber.

No, express yourself all you like but be fearful of the consequences. Racists and homophobes should be fearful of the shame and ridicule they would quite rightfully receive. I have no doubt if people didn't protest at peoples ignorance and intolerance Bryant would be out on the streets at every hate march, but he's probably scared to do so so he just hide behinds his computer and makes such remarks like an armchair fascist.

When leftists have power they do their best to silence the views of normal people.  When someone else has even a tiny shred of power (Senator McCarthy hearings) they attempt to diffuse the situation and say that people shouldn't be persecuted for their views/speech/actions.

Why is this?  It is because leftism is lust for power, nothing more, nothing less.  A few quotes come to mind:

Gas chamber? May be in the North America and Western Europe. I live outside these regions. So I don't care how much they are going to vomit their threats here. Brainwashed liberals.

There are a lot of people that see others as a collective as opposed to individuals. All it does is reveals their ignorance and mental laziness.

A child should not fear others because of the child's lack of knowledge and understanding.

You should not need to attack the weak...they will destroy themselves without your help.

The intended age demographic of this game is likely younger than the age at which a full awareness of sexual orientation and preference develops. Therefore, I do not believe it is harmful (and certainly not hateful) to program a video game to primarily contain heterosexual relationships.
I highly doubt there is enough realism to the game to necessitate nuanced lessons of morality and diversity, as the primary goal is entertainment.

It's a GAME people.

Get over it!

For the gay lobby, even the games can be a tool for propaganda spreading, especially if it is played by children in their pre-teens. Political correctness has grown too much in the Western World. And example is here:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=597714.0

What next? May be not attending a gay pride parade will be called homophobic.

You're not far off for sure!

I was once called homophobic because I told a guy I had no interest in seeing the movie "Brokeback Mountain".

IMAO I actually saw it cause I was curious in how a man could turn to be a homosexual.    I mean when men and men play is not like we can get attracted to each other just by playing wrestling with each other.   I dont know how that can happen

A few months after the DVD was released, I thought about watching the movie... as it had created so much hype. My friend had the DVD, so I got it from  him. But then I saw all the comments in a movie review forum which I used to visit.... It was clear that some people were using the movie as a propaganda tool. Decided not to watch it, and returned the DVD.

How about watch it and make your own mind up? Though I very much doubt you would've enjoyed it. I thought it was mediocre to be honest, but there's no propaganda in it. It's just a film about two gay cowboys.

Haha... I have yet to see that movie  ;D ;D

https://i.imgur.com/38zalDo.jpg

http://arstechnica.com/gaming/2014/05/nintendo-apologizes-for-lack-of-same-sex-options-in-upcoming-sim-game/

All because they were scared to lose money, guess Same Sex Sales!

Hmm... if they care too much about the 1% of the population, then they might lose some of the sales from the remaining 99% of the population. Anyway... their current stance is appreciable. They have offered an apology, and I think that is enough for now. If the gays are not satisfied with it, then they can boycott Nintendo, just like they had boycotted the Russian vodka.

The fact that these companies give in just to easy says alot, what if the other people on the opposite side, will they apologize for it change it back.  I think to easy solve this problem they can have two versions of games to pick, so that parents the want there kids exposed to a homesexual reality can be avoided.  Now games will me marked a bi relationship logo on the back of the retail box rating page.

These "pro gay" organizations learned these slash and burn tactics from "feminists". See how well that is working out for them? These two types of activism are very closely aligned and often overlap. They have gone beyond protecting people from aggressors, and have become the aggressors themselves. Also don't forget as soon as you form centralized organizations there is now suddenly pressure for creating a big event to draw in donations for these groups to continue to function. This is a problem for activism of any type, and is clearly now also an issue for "pro gay" groups as well. Being intolerant of people whom you deem intolerant is just as moronic as being intolerant in the first place. Polarizing your hatred in the opposing direction does not make you righteous, it only makes you just as big of an idiot as your opponent.

lol... feels bad for Nintendo. Seems like they are cracking under pressure:

Nintendo apologizes, vows to make future Tomodachi games 'more inclusive'

http://www.polygon.com/2014/5/9/5700624/nintendo-tomodachi-life-apology

Translation: This is the last installment in the Tomodachi series?  :)

I really don't see what's so hard about telling them to fuck off and go make their own homosexual friendly game instead of harassing somebody to do the job for them :S reminds me actually of people that complain about Bitcoin and keep trying to campaign to change it, yet there's nothing stopping them from going out and making their own currency instead.

.................while complaining about a game with no same sex option on a bitcoin forum..............

Yeah, he should take his complaint to the Homocoin forum.  Guy deleted a post where I just said I disagreed with him.  WTF?

You missed out there bud - its a great film IMHO.

If anything, if I'd have been considering "batting for the other side" I reckon this film would have put me off - not that I ever would, for the love of Christ. Some of them gay blokes have beards FFS  ;D.

No - put your prejudice/fear/latent homoerotic desires aside, and watch the film - we won't tell on you   ;)

Bah. 

Put aside YOUR PREJUDICES for a moment.

Any of us can likely quote a couple dozen movies that had serious handling of homosexuality, or which includes successfully using them in comedy.   Marilyn Monroe had a couple.  Seen Kung Fu Hustle?     How about the Hoover movie? 

The issue being questioned here is that this particular film was propaganda.

It wasn't propaganda, why would anyone suggest that ? - it was a sensitive handling of forbidden love. That they were gay was almost incidental.

Great film.

Even if it wasn't a propaganda film, it was used as such by the gay lobby. Selected as the best film during the 59th British Academy Film Awards, that too ahead of films such as Crash and Capote.

EG, it WAS propaganda - with the caveat being that it is entirely possible that's not what the producer, director or actors intended.  Pul-eez.

Pdreamer, stop the lecturing and the defense.  I just quoted a long string of accepted gay movie products.  You want more?  Dirk Bogart?  I mean, what's exactly NEW here?  True love between two cowboys?  You want to know why I wouldn't go see it?  It's very simple.  Those two cowboys don't turn me on.  We're not exactly talking Julie Roberts or Sharon Stone here.

Therefore, the movie isn't interesting to me.  At all.  And someone on an internet forum wants now to turn Nintendo games for children into HumpBack PupTent?

Let's get real here.

It's hard because they're a business selling a product; if they tell even 1% of the NA/EU crowd to "fuck off", they risk losing millions of potential customers.  As a business, you don't want someone else coming in and taking those profits you could've made, nor do homosexuals want to use different products merely to accommodate; there is no guarantee of greater quality through doing this, and considering it's Nintendo, the odds are stacked toward Nintendo providing the superior product.  Segregation will look very bad on Nintendo's image if they decide to make a homo-friendly version, which limits the possibility of success they'll have even if they try it.

It's a really simple fix--more work went into preventing same-sex relationships than if they'd left it alone--so I don't see the issue in accommodating a minority for higher profits.  That is, unless the anti-homosexuals start making noise.  I'm not sure which group is more ardent about inclusion/exclusion.

Hey, believe it or not, they didn't turn me on either  ;D
Moreover, I don't rate a film (as a work of art) on its ability to arouse me sexually.
Is the idea that we ought to only ever go watch films starring beautiful women - what with us being chest thumping red blooded males ?

That didn't half make you sound camp, Spendulus  ;D
[I'm just teasing sweety  ;))

These days I honestly can't tell the difference, I realise the business argument for it, but here's the thing, sometimes you just have to say "No we're not changing it" not because of any kind of personal reasons but because I have seen so many games ruined by people who pressure games companies into it or they do it to themselves and then they ended up ruining the game for everybody else. Maybe they should release a DLC or expansion pack with lots of content to make them happy but these people clearly have never seen a game developed before and think it's just a case of writing a few lines or pressing some buttons and then it's magically created.

In case you couldn't tell, I couldn't give a shit about either side, I'm just feeling sorry for the poor developers who are getting dragged into this because of trivial bullshit that these political pressure groups are looking around to complain about, I never thought I'd feel bad for the employees of a big game developer.

Then this will be a no win situation for Nintendo. They have promised that they will include homosexuality in the next version of the game. They will lose a lot of customers in Japan, Russia, India.etc. Much more than 1%.

You forgot the 3rd opinion. People who are fucking tired of both sides telling everyone what to do via force.

Bullshit.  Here's where you are dead wrong.  We are talking ENTERTAINMENT.   What we do for fun.  Not as a moral or self-educational duty. 

And I'm flat telling you that your attitude in ridiculing people that don't share your views about this "wonderful work of art" is not so smart.  Or to put it alternately, you might be able to produce an argument that would interest people in seeing the movie, but you have not so far done so.

I gave you many, many examples of successful portrayal of alternate sexualties in movies and as you are aware, there are countless others.  Any of these I think I could explain why someone would want to go see it. 

Going back to the classics, I can easily articulate an argument why most anyone might enjoy seeing the movie "Some Like it Hot".  I believe it would be a convincing argument to many.

Hey, if you don't want to watch the film, then don't watch it - I really don't care one way or the other. But if you do (and I take it you haven't as yet - so I'm a little bemused how the fuck you can pass an opinion on it either way) I can garauntee you that I for one will not run around the BitcoinTalk forum shouting "Spenders a bender" - regardless of wether that actually be the case or not  ;)



But I had to laugh at this :-


I love that film also - but where in that film is there any portrayal of homosexuality  ;D ;D ? Or would that be where Tony Curtis and Jack Lemon put on dresses to escape the villains ?

Jesus wept  ::)

...Just using it as an example.  Many, many others I am sure you are aware of.

No argument similar has been presented that is convincing to many such that they care to go see Brokeback.  Actually it's the reverse of "if you have not seen it you cannot judge it."

Dolphins player fined, sent for educational training after tweet about Michael Sam


I wonder if any other front office in the league would have cracked down this swiftly. Miami sweated through an endless PR forest fire last year over bullying and “locker-room culture” with the Richie Incognito and Jonathan Martin mess. They probably decided early vis-a-vis Sam that they weren’t going to tolerate the smallest spark.

And this spark was small. Don Jones’s crime was two tweets, each exactly one word long, after Sam was chosen by St. Louis in the seventh round: “OMG” and “Horrible.” Maybe that was about the pick itself, maybe it was about Sam kissing his boyfriend on TV after he got the call. Either way, after rapidly being fined, barred from team activities until he attends “educational training,” and publicly scolded in separate statements by his coach and GM, Jones issued a formal apology crafted in fluent publicist-ese:

“I want to apologize to Michael Sam for the inappropriate comments that I made last night on social media. I take full responsibility for them and I regret that these tweets took away from his draft moment. I remember last year when I was drafted in the seventh round and all of the emotions and happiness I felt when I received the call that gave me an opportunity to play for an NFL team and I wish him all the best in his NFL career. I sincerely apologize to Mr. Ross, my teammates, coaches, staff and fans for these tweets. I am committed to represent the values of the Miami Dolphins organization and appreciate the opportunity I have been given to do so going forward.”

No doubt the NFL leaned on the Dolphins to hit Jones hard in the interest of sending a zero-tolerance message to the broader league, but like I said up top, I’m sure they didn’t have to lean heavily. People were grumbling on Twitter yesterday that even the slightest criticism of Sam for being gay is now verboten whereas it was A-OK to mock Tim Tebow for his faith, even on the field during the game. Right, but that’s simple economics. Gay-rights activists are organized and willing to use their economic power to punish the NFL if it doesn’t protect one of their own; social conservatives really aren’t beyond statements of disapproval from the Family Research Council etc. Mozilla made the same, perfectly rational judgment in choosing to, ahem, accept Brendan Eich’s “resignation.” Keeping Eich on could have triggered boycotts, caused business deals to collapse, and given the company a lingering black eye in its industry. Firing him wouldn’t. There was, I’m sure, an initial backlash of thousands of social conservatives uninstalling the browser, but after a few weeks the company’s survived the storm and has clear sailing ahead. That wouldn’t have been the case if they’d kept Eich. The NFL understands that.

http://hotair.com/archives/2014/05/12/dolphins-player-fined-sent-for-educational-training-after-tweet-about-michael-sam/comment-page-1/#comments

What ? - you have not seen it but can judge it ? How does that work ?

It might teach you a bit of empathy, watching that film. Its as moving a portrayal of loneliness as I think I've seen - the way that circumstances beyond our control can take us into a lonely and isolated place.
   Or is loneliness a "predicament" that doesn't afflict straight people ?



Anyhow, I don't know how I've come to be an advocate for a cowboy film about a couple of gay blokes  ??? - so I'll leave it there I think.

I think you should include the Euro countries that are heavy into religion as well, there is alot of people that would be angry and will not support it.

I doubt there would be much of a concern in Europe over that; there is a difference between a country being "heavy into religion" and actually fanatical enough to want to force others to do things their way. Further, those European countries often have very old populations, that for the most part won't even know, or care, what game we're talking about. And the younger part of the population that would know/care is typically much less religious.

See, your attitude is the problem, not the solution.  You've just said "It might teach you a bit of empathy..."  (without knowing anything about me...)   You're on board with movies and media as a vehicle for propaganda for social viewpoints and causes.

I said flat out I'd go to movies for ENTERTAINMENT, and you are asserting that someone might should go see movie XYZ because it would be some kind of learning experience.  Maybe I want to go see guys shoot a bunch  of bad guys or crash cars or fall out of airplanes and get saved in mid air by hot chics with rocket packs.  

this is not really very complicated....

You may have just made my point a lot better than I did...

There are no differences between a film and a game as both need to follow a script, a storyline. You need to accept the "film universe" or the "game universe" for them to entertain you. There is an interaction in a game with your keyboard and joystick, but to believe there are none while watching a movie is an illusion. If Nintendo did something disgusting, so did all the movies you never liked. You do not control the game universe, you participate in it, the same way you loved how you felt the first time you got what the Matrix universe was, or when your little world in your head  flipped upside down while watching Fight Club, for example. Sure, some games are propaganda as much as some films.

Now It is impossible to read the Nintendo developers mind but it is a stretch to conclude what they did was in purpose to "attack" the gay community. Somebody got offended and had the lobby power behind to make this a fake scandal, pushing Nintendo to apologize for a nothingburger with extra tossed salad and mayo...

They did the whole gay thing with spartacus was very disgusting, but I accepted it, and thats what has been the problem, while we had to learn to accept it.  But we have to fight and stop accepting it or we will have a world where woman that are men are giving birth in the hospital

Ok sorry but this means the ends of days must be coming, I mean the lady or the guy who won that european show and she was dressed as a woman with a beard, I mean serious, how the funkkk can you justify yourself as being both parts of the sex?

That is the ultimate goal of the feminist-homosexual lobby. They want a gender-less society. Some of the Western European nations are sliding towards it, such as Sweden and England.

Oh my god this is a nightmare, I wonder how far we are gonna allow this to go, if you think about it this could be a mental disease that we said, hey is ok your no longer considered to be sick, cause you all faught so hard to make it ok to be a woman then look like a man, then go make some babies while being a man figure.

When a company is about to be burned at the stakes from the minority who feel they're entitled to their every desire they usually fold...

Well, why don't we come up with a list of games; online and board games included, which need to be modified in order to appear to be soically correct.

You need not worry about chess because it has both kings and queens and eliminate Monopoly from the list as well because it has that sort of effeminate looking guy with the monocle and top hat.*


*No harm is intended by this post.  The only intent is to show the absurdity of attempting to make any given thing about everyone and all things to all people.

I thought this was somewhat relevant to this subject.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qjthIKHxE34

You know back in the 80s there was already a "bearded lady" that was very popular: Boy George. There were no doubt about his sexuality. Huge hits. I liked boy George. I knew he was gay. Somehow the "gay lobby" was winning in music, fashion, art without attacking or shoving their agenda down people's throat. We can make fun of how people used to dress in TV shows like Miami Vice now but it was cool and again a lot of creative minds behind that look were gay.

Now there is a shift. A much more agressive shift. A much more open agenda punishable by internet soldiers, NFL fines, mozilla boycotts, HGTV cancelation, etc (http://globalflare.com/hgtv-considering-cutting-benham-brothers-due-to-christian-beliefs/)

All of that will backfire.

Yea. The bearded lady is going to be the end if days. Much more likely that than Crimea escalation or overpopulation and resource wars.

Might be more complex that it seems at first. Crimea escalation affects only a small part of the former USSR. Similarly, overpopulation will affect only certain pockets in Africa and Asia. On the other hand, the breakdown of social values and morality can effectively harm the entire human race.

Woah, woah, woah, don't use that word or the Bigot police will come on storming in and accuse you of being a bigot for not respecting their opinions  ::).

But yeah, it's been established that Bryant is one.

I was lucky that I grew up in a normal society, where men behaved like men and women behaved like women. And I don't want anyone to teach me the pleasures of pedophilia and sodomy. Not interested in them.

Normal society? Where did you grow up? Nazi Germany? I guess if you're raised by racists and bigots then you're very likely to grow up to be one. And are you still perfectly okay with all that bestiality (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=583953.msg6556744#msg6556744) porn but no anal for Bryant? Or is it just man-on-man anal that you don't like?

...Nice. You are proving your intellectual superiority by insulting someone's parents :)

 

Wasnt last month that OkCupid done the same thing for the firefox users, switching the homepage?

Here is the quote and news to it

Last week, the online dating site OkCupid switched up its homepage for Mozilla Firefox users. Upon opening the site, a message appeared encouraging members to curb their use of Firefox because the company's new CEO, Brendan Eich, allegedly opposes equality for gay couples—specifically, he donated $1000 to the campaign for the anti-gay Proposition 8 in 2008. "We've devoted the last ten years to bringing people—all people—together," the message read. "If individuals like Mr. Eich had their way, then roughly 8% of the relationships we've worked so hard to bring about would be illegal." The company's action went viral, and within a few days, Eich had resigned as CEO of Mozilla only weeks after taking up the post. On Thursday, OkCupid released a statement saying "We are pleased that OkCupid's boycott has brought tremendous awareness to the critical matter of equal rights for all individuals and partnerships."

http://www.buzzfeed.com/skarlan/okcupid-urges-firefox-users-to-switch-browsers-over-new-ceos

So tired of that oppression garbage
It's like Internet blackmail

Get these minority groups that come out and cry oppression and then everyone has to bend over backwards to make them happy
Otherwise you risk getting thrown under the bus like they did with Mozilla.

The CEO made a personal donation, so now you call for users to ban software the company he works for creates?!!!
I can't take it anymore :P

This is exactly what I've said. 99% of the population is made to dance to the tunes of the remaining 1%, because the latter are more vocal about their sexuality. The 99% of the population, who are heterosexual remain unorganized, while the 1% homosexual community is very much organized. If we want to protect our rights, we have to organize ourselves as well.

Flame, bait, troll.

That's wrong in so many levels! F*ck dykes and fags...

An unbiased news article here.

Sorry, Not Sorry. Stop Apologizing

http://www.chicagonow.com/acrimonious-clown/2014/05/sorry-not-sorry-stop-apologizing/

A fair number of gays are just as disgusted at this stuff as we are. 

It's more likely something like 25-35% of the 1% who are homosexual PLUS 5% radical left wing drooling hipsters who just think they are better, smarter and more progressive than other people.

In actual fact, being "vocal about sexuality" is a giant problem, not a solution, and inappropriate in numerous contexts.

So it is some 5% of the population who want to suppress the rights of the remaining 95%. The best method of dealing with these druggies and loonies will be to tell them that either they should obey the rules, or GTFO.

This is false.

The very thread you post in is evidence that it is false.

Also could you please not be disgusting?

Well I do see it that way.   I am not sure about the percentages but this is no different than feminism being taken over by nazi feminists and control freak dikes.

My, my, this thread is certainly bringing out the best in everyone, isn't it?

lol... asking the radical left-wing to behave less disgustingly?  ;D Their entire ideology is built up on such things. It is a part of their movement... BTW... could you please stop quoting such people? I had ignored some users. But just because you are quoting them, I have to search a Barf-bag right now.  >:(

First of all a genderless society is exactly what a lot of "feminists" want, and the gay and feminist lobby heavily overlaps. These tactics are well known and their ideology well documented if you even bothered to look. The common theme is destruction of anything masculine or male oriented so that women can be equal. Why work to grow yourself when you can just destroy the lives of others and be relatively elevated in the process?

In addition have you ever considered that these resistance groups are springing up as a result of the turn by some of these groups to aggressive and destructive policies and stunts designed to raise money for these groups, at the expense of everyone (including gays and feminists whom they don't really represent). This is a problem with ANY activist group who achieves its goals. They never disband, they are stuck creating bigger and bigger events to raise money so they can keep their nice cooshy nonprofit jobs. So in the end this is more about greed than bigotry as a result of these types of actions.

This is exactly what is happening in Sweden. And this will soon be the case in some of the left-leaning European states such as England and the Netherlands. Sweden was once known for its Viking culture.... now these are the news articles coming out from there:

http://www.thelocal.se/20091201/23592

http://www.visitsweden.com/sweden/Featured/Sweden-Beyond/Society/

http://www.visitsweden.com/ImageVault/Images/id_3400/conversionFormat_21/scope_0/conversionFormatType_Jpeg/ImageVaultHandler.aspx

I don't have any problem with fathers taking care of their children. But look at the facial expression. That tells everything.

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=feminism

I am not sure I can think of a safer place in the world for homosexuals and feminists than the US and Europe. Do people perpetrate violence against homosexuals and women? Sure they do, but violence and oppression isn't reserved exclusively for homosexuals and women. Additionally if you polled people on the streets 9/10 people would demonstrate no issues with gays being gay. I guess my point is there is no major threat to homosexuals as a group on a national level, meaning the optimal level of acceptance may have been reached, and they are only creating MORE DISDAIN for homosexuals as a whole because of the actions of a small group looking for a quick boost in donations. If they really cared about the welfare of homosexuals why aren't they focusing on a local level in areas where assault and discrimination is common rather than flame baiting international companies for attention? Truly good deeds rarely make the news.

EDIT: Just because some one opposes the gay lobby doesn't mean they are afraid of "secretly being turned gay" or even antigay, but I know that fits in nicely with your perception of constant bigotry and homophobia resulting from the wallowing in the victim status class just like the feminists.

Kind of amusing actually, because this kind of thing always makes you know who the people worth hanging out with are, because these kind of attitudes usually reflect on their general lifestyle and how fun they are too :P

What about the violence and oppression being committed by the homosexuals? Take the list of registered sexual offenders in any state or county in the US. You will find that more than one-third of the offenders had committed homosexual attacks (especially the case in attacks committed against minors), despite being only around 1% of the population. 

Well I mean I dont like the part where homos have to try and control everything, they get a bitchfit on everything they dont agree on, there are alot of things in this world I dont agree, they should focous more in politics maybe they can make a change in the white house

With 1% of the population, the homosexuals can be ignored as a political force in the US. With some notable exceptions (such as Los Angeles, San Francisco and New York), they are not capable of tilting the election results.

Across the world, it must be around the 15-20% mark. An example here:

http://rt.com/politics/most-russians-oppose-gay-marriage-and-gay-pride-events-poll-140/


http://www.prweb.com/releases/2010/07/prweb4286314.htm

Using the tool, JavaScript, he invented and created to attack him too...

Exactly that kind of reaction the pink mafia is creating.

Depeche Mode...  :)

Hmm... I thought that the comment by worhiper was tamer, when compared to some of the abuses showered towards me by the pink mafia here. Anyway... good to see people rising up.  ;D

damn, so you want the privilege to be disgusting, lecturing, and self righteous all in one, while spreading false pink.

Got it.

Yes, like the people who complain that Subway sell Halal food and demand that their own food preferences be enforced on everyone else.
They really should get over themselves.

How exactly are your rights being suppressed?

Yep... ::) (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=527732.msg6526368#msg6526368)

Well they got nintendo to change there minds and got the gay parade in new york going im sure they can run to be president  IMAO. 

Wait its gonna happen and then your going to see them all crying and saying now we  know we have a chance to fullfil any dream.

After then then we will see a man being a woman but keeps his beard and he will be eletected.   Im gonna be maybe 60 years old, by that time. 

In the US? Not in the near future. That might be possible in the Europe, but I don't think that a homosexual candidate can win the POTUS election in the US right now. The only region supporting such a candidate will be New England.

Basically correct, because odd as it may sound, some of the most reactionary forces are in the Democratic party. 

Oh, now don't bring in FACTS!

You might cause some heads to explode!

In the homosexual/feminist community gender is commonly thought of as a social construct not a biological state. If they can CONDITION people into a genderless society, the rest of the world is forced to change their social normality to accommodate an actively destructive minority, not by choice but by coercion. Basically they are trying to make things less confusing for themselves by confusing everyone else so everyone is equal. Way to be lazy and not bother checking into feminist ideology.

It is similar to two siblings, each with a toy, and one child breaks theirs and demands the other toy be broken so things are "fair". LIFE FUCKING SUCKS some times. Very few people get even a very small percentage of what they want in their lifetime. They can't seem to understand WE ARE ALL OPPRESSED, but some how the personal form of oppression they suffer is worse than every one else's and justifies the destruction of entire social structures to accommodate this victimhood, and in the process, create more victims.



 So why are they sill so active in the US and EU? Why aren't they active in Africa, Eastern Europe, and Asia? I guarantee you the atrocities there will put this debate in perspective. I will tell you why, BECAUSE THE MONEY IS HERE. These events are almost always about collecting revenue for organizations, which is NOT equivalent to supporting actual homosexuals (unless of course they get a paycheck from the nonprofit).  

As far as women being the majority of rape victims, you are incorrect. The majority of rape victims in the US are male. Getting raped in the ass in prison doesn't magically make it not rape because Billy had a few grams more of weed than he should have when he got caught.  


Seriously? This is their concern while in other countries gays are beat to death quite commonly? This is the best evidence yet they don't give a crap about gays. Homosexuals DO NOT HAVE A RIGHT to make other people represent them. If they are unhappy with the state they should produce their own media and build their own networks. Instead they demand everyone change their business model for something that will be destructive and not profitable. No one has a right to be represented in the media. This insecurity is an internal emotional issue, not the responsibility of everyone else.  

Have you ever noticed there are no Mexicans in space? Look back at any sci-fi you have ever watched and try to find a Hispanic character in the show. Do you see Mexicans crying about being underrepresented in the media? No? Maybe because they have real problems to take care of like taking responsibility for ones own life instead of expecting everyone else to do it for them.

Exactly. And the feminists and the leftists moonbats think that the best way to achieve a gender-less society is through the intense brainwashing of small children. That is why recently they are targeting the kindergartens and schools (look at the other thread about school children in a French city being forced to cross-dress).

sometimes it seems like gay people are just looking for any excuse to bitch. and that makes them bitches.

I am not sure who you are referring to but you seem to have confused quotes. I said that as an example of how other minority groups build their own institutions instead of just demanding existing institutions do it for them, so I am not sure who you are arguing with xD
P.S. I don't consider myself liberal or progressive.

Yes you are correct I meant to address it to Phy.

I give up then. 

I wrote it to a phantom of the internet, who existed for a moment in an alternate simulcra inhabited by zombie gay cowboys.

lol.... As long as there are idiots who are willing to listen to the bitching, they will continue doing it. But still, I don't believe that the majority of the gay people are like that. As someone pointed out in this thread, it is only the 25% to 35% of the gay population, who are hell bent to propagate / proselytize their way of life to the general public. The remainder mostly keep to themselves.

You know, I have this feeling somehow that a coalition of feminists, gays, global warming nutcases, and certain political parties are attempting to simply train people to shut up whenever they are told to shut up, and to do so whatever the reason of the moment is.

Going with that point of view, the fact that in this case it's gay is secondary to the general issue of training the population.

https://i.imgur.com/gSqCmTB.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/gThQFIs.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/xKhRjdD.jpg

Proof the Pink mafia is shooting itself in the mouth. Nintendo is about gaming and have fun. Not to offend...


http://www.amazon.co.uk/Chess-Super-Mario-Board-Game/dp/B00168PI9S/ref=sr_1_fkmr0_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1400507552&sr=8-1-fkmr0&keywords=Super+Mario+ChesSuper+Mario+Chess

Show of hands if you want to see the people who want Nintendo to include homosexuals in their games learn how to program a few games for Android. Problem solved.

The intellectual properties of Nintendo never leave their platform. Unless Disney, or Apple, or Microsoft, or Google, buys the company.  Until that day comes Gayming has to be developed and supported in home.

Be careful when you say that. Just a few months ago, there was a rumor that Apple is considering to acquire Nintendo. Also, see this:

Nintendo says it’s open to merger or acquisition

https://games.yahoo.com/blogs/plugged-in/nintendo-says-open-merger-acquisition-220715429.html

I didn't say it had to be Nintendo's intellectual property. I just get so sick of the whiners when all you need to create your own unique game these days is a good computer, a pretty good understanding of game creation, and access to the Android platform.

They are after the brand name and the popularity of Nintendo. The pink mafia can create a video game similar to those from Nintento in virtually no time. But will they ever get as popular as Nintendo? No. That is the problem. They want to target 100% of the children with the pro-Homosexual agenda, not the 1% who belong to the homosexual households.

Which is another way of saying that homosexuals don't have the entrepreneurial smarts to compete with Nintendo, am I right? I'm sure Nintendo will listen to the money, though. If nobody buys a title with blatant homosexual themes, they probably won't try that again anytime soon.

Very good grasshopper! The people pushing these ideals don't care about women, gays, blacks, the earth or anyone else. They are harming us all. Get a clue.

Nintendo guys are smart, and they are based in Japan. They will never allow such blatant themes in their games. The PR campaign is just undertaken to avoid the protests from gays and feminists. That's all.

My brother is gay. His response to this was "who gives a shit." I tend to agree with him.

There are two types of homosexuals.

1. The first type is normal people, like you and me who are not interested in politics. For them, their sexual orientation is not a propaganda tool.
2. The second type is people who are interested in politics, who want to use their sexual orientation as a tool for their political activism.

Yep, and in my experience the first type generally hates the second even more than we do.