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Judge Abbas Khalifa asked Ibrahim whether she agreed to return to Islam. After she said, "I am a Christian," a charge of apostasy was declared and the death sentence was handed down, according to judicial sources, quoted by Reuters.

"We gave you three days to recant, but you insist on not returning to Islam. I sentence you to be hanged to death," the judge told the woman, AFP reported.

The woman had also been charged with adultery for marrying a Christian man.

Amnesty International said the woman was raised as an Orthodox Christian, her mother's religion, because her father, a Muslim, was reportedly absent during her childhood.  

Outside the courthouse, around 50 people protested the decision, holding placards that read "Freedom of Religion."

Islamists celebrated the court decision, chanting "God is Great."

Sudanese activists condemned the decision and called on the Sudanese government to uphold the freedom of belief for all people.

"The details of this case expose the regime's blatant interference in the personal life of Sudanese citizens," Sudan Change Now Movement, a youth group, said in a statement.

The embassies of the United States, the United Kingdom, Canada and the Netherlands released a common statement expressing "deep concern" about the court proceeding, urging the North African country of almost 31 million people to respect the religious freedom of its citizens, AFP reported.

The high-profile case comes at a time of severe economic and political hardship for the government of President Omar Hassan Bashir, which suffered a major setback in 2011 when South Sudan, the country’s main oil supplier, seceded and formed its own sovereign state.

Amid the grinding economic downturn, Bashir ordered stringent austerity measures that prompted violent protests that led to the deaths of dozens of people.

http://rt.com/news/159176-sudan-court-woman-christianity/

Sad but such is life for minorities in a theocracy
Perverse

I don't understand why they are calling it as apostasy. Her mother was Orthodox Christian and that was why she was brought up in that faith. Her father has never visited her, nor offered any financial support. Is this is what the Christians get in return for their tolerance towards the Muslims in Europe and North America? Pathetic.

>>Christian tolerance

http://www.enetenglish.gr/?i=news.en.article&id=1710

Muslims need to ask themselves what kind of god or religous leaders that have that support death for something thats not harmul to know one.  Sad if they gonna murder someone just cause her faith is in a different religion.  Still livin in dark times indeed.

I've got to stop visiting this subforum. That whole situation is stupid beyond expression (I really have no sympathy for the woman willing to die a martyr). What's a "Sudanese activist," anyway? The chanting Islamists aren't "activists"? You can't be too disenfranchised and apathetic if you're in the streets cheering for a woman's killing because she changed religion and commits "adultery." Sounds like over-activists to me.

Heh, my family still considers my marriage to be adultery. I didn't attend the reunion that year, but I hear it caused a minor stir when a close family member requested we be added to the family registry. It's not "real" unless the government blesses it. ::) Jeez - we aren't even gay! Luckily, nobody's enforced the Anabaptist punishment for adultery on us, yet. I can't imagine I'd do anything but laugh straight through the execution.

I have tons of sympathy for this woman. She is going to be murdered for her religious beliefs. How does that not generation even a token amount of sympathy? Being willing to die for what you believe is a foreign concept to most of us, myself included but history is littered with brave souls that did just that and paved the way for the freedoms we are allowing to erode today. 

I disagree with you. Many people in similar situations would have done the same thing that she did. She was a Christian, and was asked to convert to Islam. She refused to change her religion. I have respect for her.

I am an atheist or agnost. If someone ask me to change my religion, I'd also tell him to GTFO. Would that make me a martyr?

Meriam Yehya Ibrahim, 27, is also pregnant.

Gota love theocracy.
What kind of religious argument says that my god is so powerful that he needs me to kill a pregnant woman.  ::)

You can tell a lot about a people by the god they worship. 

Golden Dawn are neonazis -_-
That would of course be the first place I would expect tolerance  ::)

People are so stupid.  There is one god, that which is all god.  I praise god, allah, whomever you may call it.  FSM, Jesus, they are all one.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=521074.msg6036140#msg6036140

Well.. the blogger ridiculed a much respected religious figure, who had just deceased. This is not exactly the freedom of expression, but rather hooliganism. But it should be noted that the perpetrator received only a suspended sentence (i.e he never went to jail).

sometimes i feel like there are some other people who live in a completely different reality from mine. it's like they are living in their own egocentric, deluded world where they and their ideas are at the center of everything.

I hope she can escape to Europe where she would instantly qualify for political refugee status.

Of course that'd make you a martyr. If you're willing to die rather than say you believe in a particular set of boogeymen, absolutely. Not saying there's anything wrong with someone who'd rather die than feign beliefs, but there's no practical benefit to that, whether she insists on it or not. I lean pretty far toward hard agnosticism (you know, the "brain in a vat" & related crap), but I'm pretty comfortable saying she's dying for no legitimate purpose... but who knows what her thoughts all were here. Maybe she just wanted some type of Jizya-like status -- I could understand threatening to let a government kill you because you might be put in a reduced tax bracket and be released of conscription obligations. Not wanting to say "rock on, Allah, my rock" in court, though? Eh.

It's a terrible, threatening precedent, sure. I'm sympathetic toward the cause of being able to believe as you please without your government killing you for it. The individual woman, though - not really. I'll troll so far as to say the ideal outcome of this would be the state following through with the execution, followed by the closet Christian population rising in arms against the government, bringing global fundie numbers way down. Doesn't matter who wins so long as everyone fighting fights for boogeymen.

You know, though, I think there's an angle missing in a lot of these stories -- like who the woman actually is and why I should care about her death, or the death of everyone in Southern Sudan for that matter. Yeah, she's human, just like Hitler, so what? It's always about the state and their actions, their thought processes and laws, then the response of unrelateds. If my bud Jimbo Ayzaqyyola (I call him Allah for short) were tried and sentenced with the same results (but reverse which religious fanatics are in power) in Canada, I'd defend him, because Jimbo's a cool guy - came over for a minor plumbing issue, then freely helped me disassemble and learn about my water softener because he likes eradicating ignorance - and because he's an enjoyable, helpful fellow who did no wrong by me, shouldn't be killed, and should probably be killed for in defense of. That, I think, is a rational reason for an uprising - the "they're killing him because he disrespected Jesus" thing is secondary and frankly unimportant: it doesn't really matter why they're going to kill Jimbo if I'm reasonably sure Jimbo's a fine fellow. Maybe he catches his maid stealing from him and cuts off her hands and uses them to replace his front door knockers -- well, I'd still have to say Jimbo shouldn't go to prison because Jimbo's in my mental trust club and the laws can go fuck themselves.

This is why I don't think all these massive, consolidated governments work -- we dump the community trust thing and start insisting we need to define absolutely every "bad" action in a 200,000 page law book nobody could possibly read in its entirety before dying - they're hard as Hell to understand and frequently misinterpreted or incorrectly applied, while punishment severity seems to be assigned randomly to crimes, where possessing LSD ends up being declared worse than double homicide. It's a junk system coming out of utopian minds where a government can govern 200,000+ people and do a better job at it than a judicial system made up entirely of 100 lightly-armed guys who walk around threatening to kill people when they do something obnoxious and sometimes pulling the trigger. And it's a double-solution there, because then these odd men who aspire to shoot and protect won't kill homeless loiterers for entertainment. ..... What're we talking about?

There is a few in bible?

"You know, though, I think there's an angle missing in a lot of these stories -- like who the woman actually is and why I should care about her death, or the death of everyone in Southern Sudan for that matter."

Why should I care about your four paragraphs again? Why do you need to share your thoughts with other human beings on this forum? Why couldn't you simply ignore this thread? The reality is that even your action of writing how much you should not care about that situation defines you as a social creature with a need to share a personal story. Your personal story with your friend is no less valuable that the story of that pregnant woman. Writing those four paragraphs about your story proves it.

Disturbing details are out. The woman was married to a Christian man for several years. They already had one child and she was pregnant with the second. The Sudanese are saying that they will stone her to death after the birth of her second child. And both the children will be taken away from her husband, to be brought up in an Islamic environment.

Let us observe the outcry pouring from all over the place and social networks. Let us admire the crowd chanting "No Justice! No Peace! Free Meriam Now!" Any hashtag from Michelle Obama #FreeMeriamNow campaign coming?

you may complain about michelle obama doing that stunt, but it got the media outlets talking about it.. and now a lot of people know what's going on. so it did have an effect, but you might just be spouting off the agenda of fox noise.

Of course I am a fox noise pusher, whatever that mean. Did you know Boko Haram was rejected to be classified as a terrorist group by this obama administration? The same administration pushing for that "We are the world, we are the children" move? Even the Nigerian government was surprised by that.
But what do you think about Meriam's situation? Are you going to create that ashtag in support of her? No need to answer of course if you do not feel comfortable...

It's really unfortunate... I just read this "Pregnant Woman Sentenced to Death 2 Years After She Gives Birth"
I couldn't even imagine watching my child grow, knowing I'll be put to death after his second birthday :/

Seems like Obama has been awaken from his slumber.....

Sudan: White House On Sentencing of Meriam Yahya Ibrahim Ishag in Sudan

http://allafrica.com/stories/201405161661.html

*Well not just the media. They have elevated boko haram' status and strengthen their PR power...
 

https://i.imgur.com/pzXxnF8.png

https://i.imgur.com/n24dtWY.png

http://hotair.com/archives/2014/05/16/has-our-state-department-started-a-hashtag-yet-for-the-soon-to-be-murdered-sudanese-christian-mom-yet/

I was hoping for a more active role from the US, as Daniel Wani (Meriam's husband) is a US citizen (since 2005). Martin, the 20-month old son of Meriam Yahya Ibrahim Ishag is also imprisoned along with her at the Khartoum prison.

I warned you before and I am warning you now. Be wary of the Muslims, their religion is not peaceful at all. For now they are in minority and are quite silent (occasionally they kill someone here or there) but when their number will be higher is our society they change our laws to Sharia and if you won't be a muslim by that time you will be sentenced to death. This case is the prime example of what will happen in the future.

Many people have studied about the correlation of Muslim behavior/terrorism with the population size. This is their findings:

1. As long as the Muslim population remains around or under 2% in any given country, they will be for the most part be regarded as a peace-loving minority, and not as a threat to other citizens. Examples: USA, Italy.

2. At 2% to 5%, they begin to proselytize from other ethnic minorities and disaffected groups, often with major recruiting from the jails and among street gangs. Examples: Denmark, Spain, Germany.

3. From 5% on, they exercise an inordinate influence in proportion to their percentage of the population. For example, they will push for the introduction of halal (clean by Islamic standards) food, thereby securing food preparation jobs for Muslims. They will increase pressure on supermarket chains to feature halal on their shelves -- along with threats for failure to comply.  Examples: France, Sweden.

4. When Muslims approach 10% of the population, they tend to increase lawlessness as a means of complaint about their conditions. In Paris , we are already seeing car-burnings. Any non-Muslim action offends Islam, and results in uprisings and threats, such as in Amsterdam , with opposition to Mohammed cartoons and films about Islam. Examples: India, Israel.

5. After reaching 20%, nations can expect hair-trigger rioting, jihad militia formations, sporadic killings, and the burnings of Christian churches and Jewish synagogues. Examples: Ethiopia, Ivory Coast.

6. At 40%, nations experience widespread massacres, chronic terror attacks, and ongoing militia warfare. Examples: Chad, Bosnia, Lebanon.

7. From 60%, nations experience unfettered persecution of non-believers of all other religions (including non-conforming Muslims), sporadic ethnic cleansing (genocide), use of Sharia Law as a weapon, and Jazya, the tax placed on infidels. Examples: Albania, Malaysia.

8. After 80%, expect daily intimidation and violent jihad, some State-run ethnic cleansing, and even some genocide, as these nations drive out the infidels, and move toward 100% Muslim. Examples: Bangladesh, Egypt.

9. 100% will usher in the peace of 'Dar-es-Salaam' -- the Islamic House of Peace. Here there's supposed to be peace, because everybody is a Muslim, the Madrasses are the only schools, and the Koran is the only word. Examples: Afghanistan, Saudi Arabia, Somalia, Yemen.

I really don't think Muslims in USA are perceived as "peace-loving" .

They are. The Americans in general have a positive view about the local Muslims, who are mostly concentrated in cities such as New York, New Jersey, Dearborn, and LA. They are very heavily represented in some of the blue collar jobs, such as driving local taxis. However, Americans are having a negative view about the foreign Muslims, especially the Arabs and the Somalis.

Oh , you talked about how that country is seeing the community inside , not that their view on Muslims  in the same for all of them.

Viral Recoil: Michelle Obama's hashtag activism backfires with anti-drone campaign

The hashtag 'Bring back our girls' quickly spread on the web, even attracting the undoubted clout of America's First Lady. But, as well as raising awareness of the kidnappings of 276 Nigerian schoolgirls, Michelle Obama has inadvertently sparked an online anti-drone campaign. Gayane Chichakyan reports. READ MORE on.rt.com/5o0tq0

http://youtu.be/oHqXEodJVY8

This verdict is not Islam. Quran recognizes freedom of religion (God says in Quran La iqraha fiddwin meaning There is no compulsion in religion). What this Sudanese court is doing is fully against fundamental spirit of Islam as laid down in Quran.  There is a very good book "NO GOD BUT GOD" by Reza Aslan were is eloquent discussion of how Islam developed over the centuries into an anti-women, anti-human rights religion after Mohammed's death in the hands of power monger rulers and clerics .

Despite world-wide condemnation; it is unlikely that the all of the girls who were kidnapped by Boko Haram, in Nigeria, will be found alive and well!  :(

...??

I'm not sure what the relevance is. I don't know a single Muslim who isn't appalled by this.

Exactly. Religion is a mechanism of control. It is perverted as necessary to suit the needs of the masters.

Sigh. What can I say about the Muslims I know? Good cooks. Several of them good tennis players. One of them is a terrible driver. One of them is a very proficient triathlete.

Weirdly, not one of them has tried to blow me up.

Hazir - racism just isn't cool.

Wait a minute here.  Back up the bus.  This guy slept with a Christian, right?  In their view isn't that the moral equivalent of having sex with a flea ridden dog?  If I recall correctly in the fundie version of the Koran the proper punishment for this guy is to cut off his balls, feed them to him and then stone him to death, right?

I demand to know that this guy was properly punished before we even start to talk about his daughter.

In primitive religions (the ones based on the world being created by an invisible man in the sky), it's usually OK for a guy to do what he wants. It's the women you have to watch.

Even in the Garden of Eden, is was EVE causing all the trouble.

So what is typical skin color of a muslim? "To be anti islam is not cool": that I would understand. But racism? How about all those europeans who converted to islam?

Biological notions of race kind of went out of fashion after the whole Aryan Master Race thing. Racism today is a catch-all for any kind of ethnocentric bigotry. And specifically, there is growing consensus that Islamophobia is a form of racism.

Ref: Poynting, S.; Mason, V. (2007). "The resistible rise of Islamophobia: Anti-Muslim racism in the UK and Australia before 11 September 2001". Journal of Sociology

You can always ask German Jews and Bosnian Muslims whether racism depends on the existence of races.

So you are able to tell who are muslims in the street just by looking at them... Nice biological race detector you have there  ;D

...? Pretty sure I just said the opposite...but whatever straw man you need...

Ask Bosnian Muslims and German Jews if the existence of "race" is required to suffer racism.

Interesting to note that Obama still hasn't spoken even a word against this outrageous sentence. He is busy appeasing the Somalis and the Sudanese (in addition to the Arabs).

http://cdn.frontpagemag.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/12/Obama+Somali+attire.jpg

This story is awful. Where is amnesty international and all the women's rights groups on this? Where is the US state department? These are US citizens.

This has nothing to with racism. This is about the mixing of religion with political power. It should never happen anywhere.

Amnesty has been covering it extensively.

https://www.amnesty.org.uk/actions/sudan-execution-apostasy-pregnant-woman-mother-meriam-yahya-ibrahim-christian

Meriam Yahya Ibrahim Ishag was born in Sudan and holds the Sudanese passport. Her husband, Daniel Wani is a citizen of the United States since 2005. I have no information about the nationality of their 20-month old son, Martin.

Hey you are right!  After a bit of research it turns out that Muhammad (may his penis fall off from overuse) handed himself down many, many, very convenient "revelations from allah".  Check it out here:

http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/Quran/025-Muhammads-sex-life.htm

According to the Islamic law, a Muslim man can marry a non-Muslim girl. But it is forbidden for a Muslim woman to marry a non-Muslim man. Such a crime is punishable by the death sentence.

Live and learn.  I still am unclear about one thing.  Due to divine revelation Muhammad (may he contract syphilis from one of the slave girls) could sleep with just about anyone he wanted to (many wives, slaves, children, etc.) but does that apply to any man who joins the religion or do you have to attain some "higher rank" in the religion to get this license?  If so this sexual free-for-all, oops, I mean free-for-men is sounding more interesting to me.  Reading more it appears that in this "religion" you can molest prepubecent girls!  Although there seems to be some weird restriction on penetration:

It's not specific to Muslims (thanks for linking to a hate site). The Judeo-Christian faiths all have their ridiculous bits of text too. There are plenty of points in the bible which advocate child abuse.

Outrageous. I am not a Christian, but I am sure that child abuse is mentioned nowhere in the bible. Or for that matter, in any of the other religious books. Now, you have made some really tall claims. How about giving some proof or evidence to support your argument?

Proverbs 13:24 (New International Version)
24 Whoever spares the rod hates their children,
    but the one who loves their children is careful to discipline them.

I've been wondering about this as well and I'm not surprised having taken a look at conversations between Christians about hitting children that the Vatican and the Catholic church has a huge number of child abuse cases ongoing and investigated, just like with homosexuality, Christians think because of one little line it's okay to go around fucking their kids up.

I should have bookmarked it, but I found a very ironic article written by a Satanic temple giving letters to children to give to their schools that they shouldn't go around hitting their children, of course there were a lot of angry Christians commenting on it. What religions like Christianity want is obedience and they try to cover this up by saying respect, but respect has to be mutual, so really all they're doing is just using the threat of violence and fear of violence to control them.

Oh! Here it is! http://www.mommyish.com/2014/04/12/satanic-temple-anti-spanking-campaign/

inb4 Christian and pro-spanking rage where I will mock constantly :D

You know it :)

Now if you'll excuse me, I have to get back to selling my daughter into slavery, as sanctioned in Exodus. Will accept Bitcoin only, naturally.

Naturally, I can't sell her to Jewish masters since the Talmud allows for raping non-Jewish girls from the age of 3. Mind you, according to Jewish law, I'm Jewish, so maybe she would be OK.

Yes, isn't it oh-so-smart to take selective literal readings of mythological texts in order to justify bigotry.

Aren't you the same Bryant Coleman who admitted he would vote Neo-Nazi given half a chance? I don't think you get to talk to me about what is and isn't outrageous.

IMO, spanking is not equivalent to child abuse. It may be so in the Western World, but outside Europe and North America, spanking is not considered as child abuse. See the map (countries where corporate punishment is illegal in red):

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/d8/Map_of_domestic_corporal_punishment_abolition.svg/400px-Map_of_domestic_corporal_punishment_abolition.svg.png

From Neo-Nazism to child beating. I'd just LOVE to get your views on child slavery.

Don't forget. Islamophobes=homophobes=h8=bible tells you to abuse your own children=6 year old Aisha bint :)

Bible tells you to beat your children and sell them into slavery. According to the Talmud, raping 3 year old non-Jewish girls is OK.

And yet you focus just on those pesky Muslims. Ponder that.

One of the reason US is successful in the 20th century is because the country isn't run by religious nut.

...really? Last I checked, Obama believes that the world was created by an invisible man in the sky. The previous ruler used to talk to the same invisible man on a daily basis.

Yes, I am filled with hate.  I hate the fact that a bunch of Muslim nutjobs have sentenced her to death - the subject of this thread.  I hate the fact that my daughter has to grow up in a world filled with these stupid nutjobs of all flavors.  I hate the fact that you called a web site that simply was quoting from their own damn book a "hate site" for no reason other than you don't agee with it or, well I really don't know why you called what looks like a pretty balanced and factual site a "hate site".

If true then I also equally hate that Talmud thing you quoted without reference.  The reason I am focused on the nutjob Muslims is that is the topic of this thread.  If and when the nutjob Jews or Christians sentence a woman to death for being a Muslim then I will rail on that too.  Do you have a reference for something like that happening somewhere in the world today?  Would really like to see it if you can find one.

Hey maybe we have just found the source of why these two people hate each other so much!  Their stupid books have been telling them to rape each other's young girls for thousands of years.  That will certainly make two groups of people hate each other.

Oh... at least Obama condemns child marriage, unlike you. And in the United States, it is illegal for a 50-year old to marry a 6-year old. I am OK with Obama believing some nut created the world, as long as he opooses stone age practices such as middle-aged men marrying infant children.

And yet you advocate beating children.

Yes, the ruler of the regime in Washington opposes child marriage. Good for him. He doesn't mind slaughtering children though, he's fine with that. Especially if they're Muslim.

I believe that in some cases corporal punishment might be necessary to discipline children. Corporal punishment  has been used by parents and teachers for the last several centuries, and I don't believe that it is a form of child abuse.

At least I condemn child marriage and other forms of child sexual abuse, when you remain silent about them.

If you are talking about the military, bombings, etc. then bombs do not check the religious affiliation of the children they kill.  So the "Especially if they're Muslim" is uncalled for.

Not fair.  5flags has never said they were for child marriage, right?  So they may actually be opposed to it.  We don't know for sure.

Some of those darn Christians believe in spanking their children!

Some of those Muslims believe it is OK to sentence a woman to death for being a Christian.

5flags:  Those two issues are a slightly different with respect to insanity, wouldn't you agree?

And the rod...?


Wow. Quite the humanitarian.

Yea...I'm pretty sure that if your military is routinely bombing places that a predominantly Muslim, it's a pretty good bet that it's Muslims you're gonna be killing.

But I'll be sure to pass on your comments to the next Muslim father I see collecting up bits of his children after a noble American drone strike.

I think the stupidity in Bryant's post was self evident. Shall we draw up a list of evils that Bryant hasn't written about?

One thing we can be sure of, Bryant hasn't remained silent about Neo-Nazism! No, he has been quite open and honest about his support for it.

Abso-flogging-lutely.

Some Jews believe in killing Arabs because they are Arab. Some Christians believe in burning black people because they are black. But hey, what do they matter?

For those who want to judge 1.5 billion Muslims by Islam's extremists, perhaps I can recommend two books:

Edward Said's "Covering Islam", and Charles Kurzman's "The Missing Martyrs".

If you enjoy laughing at Islamophobic bigots, I recommend: http://www.loonwatch.com/

But if you just can't stop hating Muslims and want to join up with other bigots, I recommend: http://pamelageller.com/

So, using your first post as a template:

I don't know a single Jews who believes in killing Arabs because they are Arab.

I don't know a single Christians who believes in burning black people because they are black.

So, can we get back to the matter at hand:  These specific Muslim nutjobs sentencing a specific Christian woman to death for being a Christian.

I don't and I did not see one single person in this thread judging all Muslims by judging/hating/condeming these specific Muslim nutjobs in the story that is the actual subject of the thread.

The difference is, I don't extrapolate to "Jews/Christians are primitive murderers". I don't judge a religion's followers by it's extremists. That is prejudice, pure and simple.


Yup. Appalling. Inhumane. Babaric. Primitive.

Support for the death penalty (for apostasy) is alarmingly high amongst the world's most poorly educated Muslims.

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Bryant Coleman is this... Bryant Coleman is that... Get a life.

Bryant Coleman is not everything... there are a lot of other things to discuss here. Seems that 90% of your posts refers to me. Try to concentrate on something else, loser.

...said Bryant Coleman...outed Neo-Nazi supporter.

:)

I'm just messing with you. I don't care what you write. I've read it in a thousand places before, and I'll read it in a thousand other places.

Shalom.

This thread was supposed to discuss the incident where the pregnant Christian women was sentenced to death, for her refusal to accept Islam. Could you please stay on the topic?

Feeling sorry for her husband.  :(

Man's bid to save wife on death row

http://www.news.com.au/world/africa/daniel-wani-to-appeal-pregnant-wife-meriam-yahia-ibrahim-ishags-death-sentence-in-sudan/story-fnh81gzi-1226924213216

https://i.imgur.com/eA5inzm.png

http://www.examiner.com/article/better-to-die-with-jesus-your-heart-than-muhammad-on-your-lips

The woman was born to a christian woman and married the christian man who coincidentally has an american citizenship to cause a stir, there is probably big money in this for her, she has tried to antagonize the whole world in a political move to play the victim.

 ::) Yep.. It is her own fault..What an evil money grabbing woman she is... ::)

So, she is committing to being whipped to death in an attempt to "play the victim"? Why not accept her assertion that she has chosen Christianity as her spiritual path? I believe her captors when they say this is a call from God, and I believe her also.

I advice you to get a mental checkup and a psychotic evaluation as quickly as possible. Seriously, you are having some serious problems. And don't take this as an insult. I am just trying to help you.

His post regarding this poor woman was perfectly logical... (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=358172.msg6774459#msg6774459)

She could very well have left Sudan with her American husband, not that I am in agreement with the tribal mentality of some of the sudanese, but let's be honest there are always two sides to a story.

Really sad. Maybe there is a provocative/political angle to this story, but it should not be curtailed

Hope the execution order is withdrawn

Every year hundreds of non-Muslims are sentenced to death in Muslim countries on fake blasphemy charges (especially in Pakistan, Saudi Arabia and Sudan). Some of the victims are minors, and large numbers are women. There is only one political angle to this story - The Muslim nations want the non-Muslims to forcibly convert to Islam.

I wish everyone here was so insightful about the Muslims as you are. They obviously does not know the Muslims well or giving them too much credit of being peaceful. All Muslim supporters please go to some Muslim country and try to live there as you were living in you home place. See what happens.

100 years ago, Jews were viewed as an insidious presence in Europe, which was infested with anti-Semites calling for Jews to go somewhere else.

Today, it's Muslims.

100 years from now it will be someone else.

Talking about Muslim nations, can anyone deny that these is not even a single Muslim nation which treats the non-Muslims as something better than subhuman? Even the highly developed Turkey treats its minorities (Greeks, Armenians, Assyrians) with extreme brutality.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Armenian_Genocide
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greek_genocide
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assyrian_genocide

Do you judge Jews by how Israel treats Palestinians? Do you judge Jews by the Nakba? Do you judge Catholics by the Shoah?

...so just Muslims then.

You're right, predominantly Muslim states, particularly Islamist ones are certainly discriminatory. It's just fun watching you relentlessly spew forth your hatred of Muslims whilst ignoring other parallels.

Glad to see that finally someone in the US is waking up.

Sen. Ayotte joins battle to free woman in Sudan

http://www.unionleader.com/article/20140522/NEWS06/140529706

So, are you a Muslim or you are just playing devil's advocate? I am from EU and it pains me when I see changes done by Muslims to some countries here, in Germany there is now more Muslims than in both Americas,and it would be country with Sharia law in about 50 years from now, same France or Netherlands. It would be great, because nobody will be non Muslim by that time. Dissenters would be punished and converted. Perfect future.

Hey maybe this will be an opportunity of Michelle to take her girls--at the taxpayers expense--on another field trip, this time to NIGERIA.

With a name like Avram? No, I'm not Muslim. I detest religion.


I'm in the EU. Maybe I'm just a little less scared of the other.

All men of ths world should first nd foremost realize that there is only one ,the almighty, the supreme power. And following a particular religion is a particular way of recognizing that almighty. And so wht religion a particular person choose to follow i.e the way he worship the supremacy is totally up to him/her. No one should neither the society should describe this act of individual with any particular technical term.

All men of this world should first and foremost realize that there is only one ,the almighty, the supreme power - Wrong.

You are free to believe whatever you want. But never force your beliefs upon others. Also, you should respect others beliefs. When you post here that everyone in the world should believe in almighty, you are forcing your beliefs upon others.

There is no political move here. Get some education.



This is why state-ism is not always the best political system. Other people deciding over your wife's life, that is not something that should be allowed.

I am not a fan of the Obama, but I would be cool with that. The sad thing is all of this hashtag campaign is meant to protect hilary in 2016. Her department refused to call boko haram a terrorist group when she was secretary of state. Benghazi was bad already but now with those girls.. Really sad. It is still all political people.

"I do not agree with the ruling in this case.  If anyone is going to kill one of my wives it should be me" - Defense attorney in this case

I was wondering about the same thing..

This is not true.

What if you believe, as some believe, that you must force your beliefs on others or kill them if they do not accept?  

Is it OK for them to believe that?

I think not.

Therefore it is not OK to believe whatever you want.

Some beliefs are wrong.

OK. I'll modify my words. You are OK to believe whatever you want, as long as no physical or mental harm is done to anyone else. In simple words, keep your religion to yourself.  ;D

Maybe the full quote will clear things up:

"I do not agree with the ruling in this case.  If anyone is going to kill one of my wives it should be me.  As the court knows, by the law given to us by Muhamad (may the grace of Allah be forever upon him), all my wives, slaves and livestock, whether cattle, sheep or goats, are my property.  As the owner of these various properties it is my right to dispose of them as I see fit.  Upon discovering that one of my wives or slaves is a Christian it is my right, as the property owner, to carry out the execution per the laws of Mohamad (may Allah bless him)"

Or something like that.

Wow! It does clear things up! A thousand percent.... Can't wait for the feminist associations to fight for this case.... ::)

So would the feminists you speak of be for the concept of women as property or against it, I can never remember which :)

Aha, this put things into context.

Those feminists are allergic to any risks of fatwas against their (female) humanist organizations so... This problem never gets answered as they will NEVER react to those kind of cases in the first place. To win the war against the evil penis some women need to fall in silence, quietly if I understand their "philosophy", for the feminists to keep the fight alive.

Someone needs to kick Obama in his back.

Obama Administration’s Silence on Pregnant Christian Woman Sentenced to Death is Deafening

http://www.lifenews.com/2014/05/22/obama-administrations-silence-on-pregnant-christian-woman-sentenced-to-death-is-stunning/

Pakistani Muslim Immigrant Beats Wife To Death For Not Cooking Him Goat, Claims Cultural Right To Beat Wife

A Pakistani immigrant beat his wife to death in their Brooklyn home after she made the mistake of cooking him lentils for dinner instead of the hearty meal of goat meat that he craved, according to court papers.

Noor Hussain, 75, was so outraged over the vegetarian fare that he pummeled his wife, Nazar Hussain, 66, with a stick until she was a “bloody mess,” according to prosecutors and court papers.

“Defendant asked [his wife] to cook goat and [his wife] said she made something else,” the court papers indicated as Hussain’s murder trial opened on Wednesday.

http://nypost.com/2014/05/21/man-charged-with-killing-wife-after-she-made-him-the-wrong-dinner/

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...Or something like that.

Apostasy Death Sentence: Khartoum Tells Protesting Countries ‘Respect Laws and Legislations of Sudan’

After taking flak for days from Western governments, U.N. human rights officials and others over the sentencing to death of a pregnant Christian mother convicted of apostasy, the Islamist government in Khartoum on Wednesday gave its reaction: “respect the laws and legislations of Sudan.”

The response came in a form of a statement by junior foreign minister Obeidalla Mohamed Obeidalla, released through Sudan’s state news agency.

It said the ministry was working to convey to international and regional organizations “facts about current issues in Sudan, such as the apostasy case” as well as the recent detention of a prominent opposition politician.

“Dr. Obeidalla underscored the importance of respect to the legislations and laws of countries, which are part the national sovereignty of states,” the statement said. “He added that as much as Sudan respects the laws of other nations, the others are also required to respect the laws and legislations of Sudan.”

http://cnsnews.com/news/article/patrick-goodenough/apostasy-death-sentence-khartoum-tells-protesting-countries-respect

No progress so far.

Sudan urged to stop death penalty for woman who converted to Christianity

http://unitedmethodistreporter.com/2014/05/22/sudan-urged-stop-death-penalty-woman-converted-christianity

The wife of an american citizen, with an American kid. Let's see if the 0bama administration cares with at least a very powerful strongly worded hashtag campaign... No way they can stay silenced.

Just checked the US aid to Sudan wiki and found that we give Sudan $420,349,319 in federal aid.
WFT is our government doing giving this country anything that doesn't explode when it hits the ground? This is what's wrong with OUR country. I don't care about SUDAN. I've served in our military, fought in our "wars" and nothing good has come from it. Now you tell me that not only are these people so backwards that they would execute a citizen because they marry a Christian, but we're literally funding it. Shame on Sudan sure. But shame on us for giving them a single penny.
Until we realize that we're not the worlds police, we're going to continue to make mistakes that relegate us to our future role. No more democracy, just a  hypocrisy.

Most of the US federal aid goes towards the NGOs which are working in Sudan, especially in the fields of education, HIV prevention, and health sectors. It is not going towards the Sudanese government.

Bullshit, bullshit and bullshit.  No we don't when they are wrong/evil, no you don't because you are wrong/evil, and no we are not when your laws are wrong/evil.

I wonder if he thinks that he is "required to respect the laws and legislations" of a country which put Muslims to death.

Idiot.

The question is...where is this money going? for all you know the silly government could be funding terrorists..why aren't they following up with where the money is going? I honestly don't believe the money gets to the intended people it ends up on corrupt politicians

I don't care what they do with the money. It doesn't matter. The Sudanese government shouldn't get a penny from our country. Their government is the problem. This woman didn't get sentenced to death by her local church. It is the law there. The federal law. Why we are giving them any money is just completely shocking to me and it needs to stop now!

I would agree except for one thing:  hurting the people only gets them more converts.  Assuming the money actually goes for humanitarian aid and the people know that the aid is coming from us then send even more.

With Time Running Out, Senators Heap Pressure on Admin to Help Condemned Sudanese Christian

http://pjmedia.com/tatler/2014/05/21/with-time-running-out-senators-heap-pressure-on-admin-to-help-condemned-sudanese-christian/

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BoUxEvcIgAAtQsO.jpg

In an ideal world, giving aid money is a smart and logical thing to do.The idea of giving aid money to improvised nations is to help to build infrastructure and alone them to grow their own economies. It is in fact a brilliant plan, as America tends to make alot of products. If those countries use that aid money for the intended purpose, it becomes like an investment with more of a return than what was given. As those societies end up buying and re-buying our products. However, sometimes that aid money is used or taken for other purposes.

The "poor" African continent seems to never run out of bullets... Is there an bullet NGO for that?

Some of the aid is diverted to buying arms and ammunition by the rogue groups. Also, Western oil and gas companies sometimes bribe local factions with weapons, to gain mineral and oil rights.

An American citizen whose pregnant wife has been sentenced to death in Sudan for refusing to renounce her Christian faith told Fox News’ Greta Van Susteren Friday that his wife is staying strong in her convictions despite her ordeal.

Meriam Yehya Ibrahim, 27, whose Christian husband Daniel Wani holds American citizenship, has been held in a Sudanese prison along with her 20-month old son for more than three months.

Last week, in a decision that drew international condemnation, a judge in Khartoum sentenced her to death by hanging once she gives birth and nurses her child for two years, because she would not renounce her Christianity.

Wani said on “On the Record with Greta Van Susteren” that when his wife’s ordeal began he went to the U.S. embassy and tried to report the case. However, he said he was told to go to the UN because his wife is not an American.

“I say I am an American and she is a doctor, you have to help her but she refuse to do anything,” Wani said of a counselor at the embassy he spoke to.

http://www.foxnews.com/world/2014/05/24/husband-christian-woman-sentenced-to-death-for-faith-says-wont-convert/?cmpid=app_pulse&utm_medium=referral&utm_source=pulsenews

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#Obamadoesnotcare

650,000 join Meriam Ibrahim petition with amnesty but her own government attacks her.

Petition to release pregnant Sudanese woman given death sentence for marrying a Christian reaches 650,000...as Sudan government says its 'dangerous' to protest her treatment

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2637477/Petition-release-pregnant-Sudanese-woman-given-death-sentence-marrying-Christian-reaches-650-000-Sudan-government-says-dangerous-protest-treatment.html

You should ask your self if it is the same everywhere in the Muslim world before putting all Muslims in the same bag.....
Extremism is bad and this is a form of it and it should be fought by educating the people in those area about tolerance

In a way if the petition was spearheaded by all Muslims in the world, this would have a much more impact into stopping this madness...

Make sure to spread the word, share that petition, tell everyone of your faith those people do not represent you..

kuroman:  Yes, if what you say is true then we should see at least another 600,000 signatures from the tolerant Muslims added to the petition.

it's all about spreading the word, I'm pretty sure that tolerent muslims already voted in and still voting, but this case is pretty complex imo, I don't understand how they figured out if she was muslim before and become Christian afterwards, unless she was preaching religion change or something I'm not sure

NONE OF THIS MATTERS.  It is not "complex".  She has not mudered anyone, she has not kidnapped anyone, she has not raped anyone.  Therefore there is no reason to put her to death.  Kick her out of your Muslim only country is the most rash thing to do.

It is as wrong to put someone to death for being a Christian as it is for being a Muslim or even a God damned atheist.

Actually it amazes me to see so many Muslims here, justifying this barbaric sentence. If educated Muslims act like this, then what we can expect from all those uneducated Somalis and Arabs?

If all the muslims would be "uneducated" like you've said there wouldn't be anyone doing things against their law , so this example would be void.
I guessed that by "uneducated" you meant fanatics.

Read my post again. I never sad that all the Muslims are uneducated. I was saying that highly educated Muslims are also acting like fanatics. BTW... by educated, I meant people who are capable of reading and writing English.

I never claimed that you said that.  :)

I said that "IF" and then I showed you what would have happen in that situation.
Also , why should English be the standard for education?

I hate talking about "Muslims this" and "Christians that" in the abstract.  Let's ask a specific person a specific question:

Kuroman:  what exactly did you mean by "this case is pretty complex"?  Maybe I misunderstood you.  Please explain the complexities in this specific case.  Also please explain what you meant by "preaching religion change".  Is this something you believe might be punishable by death?  I only ask because in the context of your reply that might be assumed.

Although I hate the American politicians in general, I have to admit that some of them (esp. Republican Senators Kelly Ayotte of New Hampshire and Roy Blunt of Missouri) showed real courage in supporting this unfortunate woman, when people like John F. Kerry (the Secretary of State) remained silent and tight lipped on the issue.

Politicians, friends seek to save Sudanese wife of N.H. man

http://www.bostonglobe.com/metro/2014/05/25/death-friends-sentence-justice-whose-sudanese-hampshire-wife-whose-sudanese-wife-faces-death-sentence-faces-faith-politicians-friends-urge-justice/kp4faSkOWISt7Ti7ziSaiM/story.html

You are just repeating the point I said in my initial comment and we don't disagree here but obviously you didn't read it, I'm trying to figure how out did they come out with such a sentence, what was the reasoning because this is not some tribal stuff, the judgment was made apparently in an official court, which render which means there might be stuff we don't know.

So calm down, and don't call me stuff you have no idea about because you couldn't be any wrong.

Edit: just saw your last comment, yup there was a misunderstanding here, Why I'm saying things could be more complex and that we don't know everything, because apparently unless I missed something the judgment is made by an official jury, I also don't understand how did they know she was Muslim then she become Christian, faith is something personal, I think some more reading should be done, I'm against capital sentence no matter what the crime is, and even more in this case

Regarding the charge of apostasy this is what is being reported:


Talk about half sibling rivalry/jealousy...

I find this an interesting method of teritorial expansion:

Muslim women can only marry Muslim men however,

1) Muslim men can go around impregnating anyone they want to
2) Hang around until the baby is born
3) Be first in line to name the kid
4) Give it a Muslim name - bam!  another Muslim by "law"
5) Your duty is done so you can now leave and go impregnate another woman

The Christians need to step up their game or the world is going to be overrun by Muslims!

This verdict is not Islam. Qoran recognizes freedom of religion (God says in Qoran La iqraha fiddwin meaning There is no compulsion in religion). What this Sudanese court is doing is fully against fundamental spirit of Islam as laid down in Qoran. They are confusing between treason and apostasy. Please read NO GOD BUT GOD by Reza Aslan for an eloquent discussion of how Islam developed over the centuries into an anti-women, anti-human rights religion after Mohammed's death in the hands of powermonger rulers and clerics .

Since Christianity is the religion of "love" there isn't really much that we can do about it.

But , ignoring my ironic remark , what should we do? Nuke them ? Ban them from entering western countries? Ban christian-muslim marriages? or should we ...

Act like they do?

My suggestion is to create something called "magic Christian water".  Then, make up the rule that anyone touched by even one drop of this magic water will instantly be considered a Christian.  Now all you have to do is fly over those areas heavily populated by Muslims and gently spray them with magic Christian water thus baptizing them all as Christians.  Do this enough and pretty soon everyone will be a Christian.

Much easier than all that mucking about creating new Muslim babies by the method outlined above up thread.

Also, all the new Christians will appreciate the watering of their crops.

So what will happen, if anyone of these ex-Muslims, after their baptism, want to revert to Islam? Will they be punishable for committing apostasy? I don't even think there is punishment for Apostasy in Christianity.  ;D

I know my brother was charged with something like Apostasy when he left the Jehova's Witnesses.  However, the punishment is that they don't want him back, a symbolic cutting off or "death" from the church - not a physical death sentence.

lol.... Jehovah's Witnesses is another loony sect. I have never seen a crazier Chrstian sect than them. Unfortunately they are one of the fastest growing religious groups in the world.  >:(

I had a JW buddy in school. It was always so odd that they were not allowed to celebrate birthdays or holidays. I gave him a gift for Christmas one year and his parents forced him to give it back. He married a Catholic girl after college and his parents will not acknowledge him in any way. I believe firmly in the to each his own concept but that sect gives me pause. 

Jailed Sudanese Christian Meriam Ibrahim Gives Birth – Now Ready for Hanging

Meriam Ibrahim, 27, gave birth to the girl – her second child – in the early hours of Tuesday morning, in the hospital wing of the prison.

“They didn’t even take Meriam to a hospital – she just delivered inside a prison clinic,” As Elshareef Ali Elshareef Mohammed, her lawyer, told The Telegraph.

“But neither her husband nor I have been allowed to see them yet.”

Mr Elshareef said he and Daniel Wani, Ms Ibrahim’s husband, were still waiting outside the prison at 2pm in Khartoum

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/africaandindianocean/sudan/10857502/Sudanese-woman-sentenced-to-death-for-apostasy-gives-birth.html

Not everyone in the US is happy with Obama's response to this issue.

Obama Wouldn't Care if Al Qaeda Took Texas, Claims Rep. Trent Franks

http://www.opposingviews.com/i/politics/foreign-policy/obama-wouldnt-care-if-al-qaeda-took-texas-claims-rep-trent-franks-audio

https://i.imgur.com/vNul0pI.png

http://www.nationalturk.com/en/christian-woman-in-sudan-death-candidate-was-chained-at-the-birth-of-their-baby-breaking-news-51141

An online petition to the Whitehouse has been launched.

https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/act-case-meriam-ibrahim-sudan-and-her-baby-and-toddler-prison/D1x1q4VG

Almost 30,000 signatures in less than 3 days.

Great news!!!!!

Meriam Ibrahim: Sudan 'to free' death row woman

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-africa-27651483

Fingers crossed for her and her baby.

http://rt.com/news/line/2014-05-31/#62888

Sudan to release woman sentenced to death for converting to Christianity

Sudan is releasing a woman sentenced to death for converting to Christianity, Reuters cited a government official as saying. "The related authorities in the country are working to release Mariam (Yahya Ibrahim), who was sentenced to death for apostasy, through legal measures," Foreign Ministry Under-Secretary Abdelah Al-Azrak said. "I expect her to be released soon,” he added.

International outrage has done the trick. But I am afraid that Sudan's reputation is tarnished beyond repair. It is a country where three different genocidal campaigns are currently occurring simultaneously (Darfur, Nuba Mountains and Blue Nile).

do not be too trusting with the media should be read first from other news sources

This incident was widely covered in the social media as well (Facebook, Twitter, Reddit, Blogs, Vkontakte.etc). So you cannot claim that there was any sort of media propaganda.

do not be too trusting with sukamasoto should be read first from other news sources

do not be too trusting with Wilikon should be read first from other news sources

do not be too trusting with [insert] should be read first from other news sources

This is bitcointalk. Not trusting anyone is already built in  ;)

Unfortunately, that's not quite correct. Here there are a lot of rabid fanatics of trusting based systems (remember solidcoin, for example) and victims of propaganda.

Still confused about this whole thing. Reports suggest Meriam Yahya Ibrahim Ishag may be released within a few days, but her lawyers claim it's a ploy to silence the international outcry.  >:(

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-africa-27651483

Sudan Backtracks On Releasing Christian Woman Sentenced To Death For Refusing To Convert To Islam…


There was confusion last night over whether a mother facing the death penalty in Sudan for abandoning her religious faith would be freed soon.

The case of Meriam Ibrahim sparked international condemnation from world leaders earlier this month after a Sudanese court ruled the then heavily pregnant woman would face the death penalty for refusing to renounce her Christian faith.

The court ruled she was to be given 100 lashes and then hanged after she had given birth.

Ms Ibrahim (27) was brought up as an Orthodox Christian by her mother, and married a Christian, but the court ruled she should be regarded as Muslim because it had been her father’s faith – a charged she denied.

“I am a Christian. I did not convert from Islam,” she told the Haj Yousif court in Khartoum. In refusing to renounce her faith, her Christian marriage in 2011 was annulled and she was sentenced to death for apostasy. Sex outside a ‘lawful relationship’ is also regarded as adultery under Sudanese law.

Over the weekend, the BBC reported that a Sudanese foreign ministry official had said Ms Ibrahim, a doctor, who gave birth to a girl while in prison earlier this week, will be freed from custody “in a few days’ time”. Abdullahi Alazreg, an under-secretary at the foreign ministry, reportedly said that Sudan guaranteed religious freedom and was committed to protecting the woman.

But the foreign ministry issued a clarification on Sunday, saying that only the judicial system could rule on the case.

“The defence team of the concerned citizen has appealed the verdict… and if the appeals court rules in her favour, she will be released,” the ministry said.

http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/world-news/confusion-over-news-meriam-ibrahim-to-be-freed-in-sudan-30321145.html

^^^ This is what I had posted earlier. Her lawyers were also hinting at that possibility. Once the international attention is diverted, they will imprison her again and resume torturing her.

Hopefully not.
With the kind of international attention this case has attracted, I doubt they'd be able to keep her imprisoned for long. Unlike previous cases involving Christian missionaries preaching, Sudan is really under pressure this time.

That is debatable. Sudan has attracted quite a lot of international outcry over the three ongoing genocides in its territory (Darfur, Nuba Mountains, and Blue Nile). But still, countries such as China are cooperating with them.

BREAKING NEWS: Sudanese mother sentenced to death for 'converting to Christianity' freed after international outcry
Meriam Ibrahim's case drew furious response from Britain, U.S. and EU

Charges came after she married Catholic U.S. citizen Daniel Wani
She gave birth to a baby daughter just 12 days after she was jailed
Ms Ibrahim was also sentenced to 100 lashes for 'adultery' over her marriage


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2665929/BREAKING-NEWS-Sudanese-mother-sentenced-death-converting-Christianity-freed-international-outcry.html

Sudanese Christian “Apostate” and Mother Meriam Ibrahim Rearrested at Airport

A Sudanese woman whose death sentence for refusing to renounce her Christian faith was revoked has been rearrested, her legal team told CNN Tuesday.

Meriam Ibrahim, 27, and her husband, Daniel Wani, were arrested Tuesday at an airport in Sudan’s capital as they were trying to leave the African country, Ibrahim’s legal team said.

Details about why the couple were arrested weren’t immediately available.

Ibrahim, 27, was convicted in May by a Sudanese court on charges of apostasy, or the renunciation of faith, and adultery — charges that led to international controversy. Ibrahim was eight months pregnant when she was sentenced to suffer 100 lashes and then be hanged.

http://www.cnn.com/2014/06/24/world/africa/sudan-christian-woman-arrest/index.html

China corporates with everyone as long as it's economically beneficial for them.

Meriam Ibrahim: Sudan 'apostasy' woman freed again


A Christian mother formerly on death row in Sudan has taken refuge at the U.S. Embassy after being released from police custody for a second time. …

A video report by the BBC’s Arabic service showed the Ibrahim released for a second time late Thursday. But Ibrahim’s passage to the U.S. may still be blocked as she now faces forgery charges relating to the emergency travel documents she attempted to use to get out of the country. According to Reuters, Ibrahim was released on the condition that she not attempt to leave the country.



http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-28050753

I will NEVER understand this stuff lol...just wow

Meriam Ibrahim lands in Italy, on way to US; Update: Meets with Pope Francis

Mariam Yehya Ibrahim, the Sudanese Christian woman sentenced to death in Sudan for apostasy but subsequently pardoned, arrived in Rome on Thursday, the Italian Foreign Ministry said.

Ibrahim “will remain in Italy for a short time and then will travel on to the United States,” the ministry said. …

[Deputy Minister for Foreign Affairs Lapo] Pistelli said Italy had become involved in the case because, as a Catholic country, it was very moved by Ibrahim’s story and wanted to help.

Italy has good relations with Khartoum and offered to help the U.S. Embassy there to speed up the process of getting U.S. passports for Ibrahim and her family to leave the country, the minister said.

Pistelli said he had traveled to Sudan two weeks ago to start the process but it was not finalized until Wednesday night.

He posted an image to his Facebook page of himself with Ibrahim and the two infants, apparently taken on board the plane shortly before their arrival in Rome. “Mission accomplished,” he wrote.


http://youtu.be/8O3gG-h6A5U

http://youtu.be/sRfgTA-5vRo

Powerful. Sudanese Christian Mariam Ibraheem Speaks Out for First Time Since Release From Prison (Video)


http://video.foxnews.com/v/3786732614001/exclusive-mariam-ibraheem-opens-up-about-harrowing-ordeal/#sp=show-clips


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What a beautiful and courageous woman. The very definition of feminism...