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Title: [NEM] Project Trust & Credibility DEAD, utopianfuture admitted HOAXING** Post by: From Above on June 12, 2014, 10:18:34 PM Today is the death of NEM's Credibility and Trust.
A project that was based on "FAIRNESS and EQUALITY" convicted for most impudent behavior on Bitcointalk. BOOM. that was it. utopianfuture, u killed ur own projects trust. BE AWARE of this. All the work all ur slaves did for u, ur developers, ur community, ME and YOU. Its u who betrayed us all. Why did you do this? I failed in my personal conduct and not adhere to the rules I set myself. If you are familiar with American politics, now I have the Eliot Spitzer or Anthony Weiner problem. I had a few sockpuppet accounts but I have no intention of cashing out any of them. I did not write down the sock accounts (using an arbitrary password that I can't remember) neither and plan to donate the fees for the development fund. I created sock accounts to keep the thread at a high demand when we have few supporters. Ghosthouse is the only account I kept using more so that I can use it sometimes to cheer up NEM threads. It is what it is. I apologize to my core team members, to all NEM supporting developers and helpers for this issue. I will step down from now on. The task of maintaining NEM stakeholder list will be transfered to Patmast3r. He has been sharing the access to the file with me for quite sometimes. NEMtoken account will be passed to Pastmast3r as well. NEM Twitter account will be transfered to Makoto and he could pass on to the most suitable person. NEM development fund accounts will be fully transfered to Jaguar0625, Gimre and Thies1965. Ournem website will be transfered to the core team as well. Update and Discussion and Refunds threads will be closed after new threads with similar functions can be made up. All press contacts will be passed to the core team so that they can find an appropriate person for the job. I resign from all leading function within NEM and this will be the last post of UtopianFuture. Now the next question. Is utopianfuture actually patmaster as well? Who knows? do YOU still believe in NEM? who can trust that there is not more shit behind the scenes than this? PLEASE ALSO NOTE THAT UTOPIANFUTURE WILL KEEP ALL HIS SECRET STAKES Title: Re: [NEM] Project Trust & Credibility DEAD, utopianfuture admitted to have Scammed** Post by: HinnomTX on June 12, 2014, 10:25:56 PM Really? You need a THIRD thread to discuss this? Haven't driven down the price of NEM stakes enough to reach your target entry point?
Title: Re: [NEM] Project Trust & Credibility DEAD, utopianfuture admitted to have Scammed** Post by: alex0909 on June 12, 2014, 10:30:23 PM ok, now you should stop spamming, it's boring, you won't kill NEM
Title: Re: [NEM] Project Trust & Credibility DEAD, utopianfuture admitted to have Scammed** Post by: From Above on June 12, 2014, 10:32:52 PM ok, now you should stop spamming, it's boring, you won't kill NEM ur post is spam as its completely useless kill Nem? how should i kill something thats as good as dead? are u kidding me dude? Title: Re: [NEM] Project Trust & Credibility DEAD, utopianfuture admitted to have Scammed** Post by: Raxe.io on June 12, 2014, 10:45:58 PM He was using marketing techniques, a wrong marketing technique but at the same time to label him a scammer after all his time and work in the community is wrong everyone makes mistakes.
Title: Re: [NEM] Project Trust & Credibility DEAD, utopianfuture admitted to have Scammed** Post by: From Above on June 12, 2014, 10:47:17 PM He was using marketing techniques, a wrong marketing technique but at the same time to label him a scammer after all his time and work in the community is wrong everyone makes mistakes. well i would not call him scammer but a liar and a sunken Fuhrer. What he embraced was the opposite of what he did. thats pretty intense. Title: Re: [NEM] Project Trust & Credibility DEAD, utopianfuture admitted to have Scammed** Post by: Ganefull on June 12, 2014, 10:59:30 PM what an obvoius smear campaign...
i know the guy who made the accounts...it wasnt utopianfuture...it was.... well, i dont tell...you wont belive it :o Title: Re: [NEM] Project Trust & Credibility DEAD, utopianfuture admitted to have Scammed** Post by: TaunSew on June 12, 2014, 11:01:31 PM The title is misleading. UtopianFuture didn't scam anyone out of money - all he did was create fake accounts, at the very beginning, to make NEM look more popular than it really was. No different than having fake likes on Facebook. This doesn't change NEM's distribution or it's huge positive community.
Satoshi back in 2009 was probably posting under a dozen aliases to make Bitcoin look more popular and exciting than it was at the time. Does that make Bitcoin a scam? Title: Re: [NEM] Project Trust & Credibility DEAD, utopianfuture admitted to have Scammed** Post by: From Above on June 12, 2014, 11:01:47 PM what an obvoius smear campaign... i know the guy who made the accounts...it wasnt utopianfuture...it was.... well, i dont tell...you wont belive it :o too much blabla Title: Re: [NEM] Project Trust & Credibility DEAD, utopianfuture admitted to have Scammed** Post by: Raxe.io on June 12, 2014, 11:02:22 PM He was using marketing techniques, a wrong marketing technique but at the same time to label him a scammer after all his time and work in the community is wrong everyone makes mistakes. well i would not call him scammer but a liar and a sunken Fuhrer. What he embraced was the opposite of what he did. thats pretty intense. I completely agree. It is a very wrong move and will affect progression because of a stopping point. Before this NEM has 0 negativity surrounding it. I will reiterate, everyone makes mistakes However, he has to get paid for his work. He has done a large amount of open work, he has admitted to the mistakes is trying to build openess and positivity. For me the breadth and depth of the NEM community at this point will not let the project fail. He was open and honest about his decisions and process within the project - in my mind it is not the best decision for him to resign but at the same moment there is a large amount of outside pressure, he is a great component and inter actor. We can all learn and move on from this, there is always problems in project development whether it be staff or the actual software development NEM is still moving forward and I respect everyone’s involvement from the beginning. I believe he was trying to push the project as much as possible. Title: Re: [NEM] Project Trust & Credibility DEAD, utopianfuture admitted to have Scammed** Post by: Ganefull on June 12, 2014, 11:02:59 PM what an obvoius smear campaign... i know the guy who made the accounts...it wasnt utopianfuture...it was.... well, i dont tell...you wont belive it :o too much blabla send me 2 BTC and i give you a name ;) Title: Re: [NEM] Project Trust & Credibility DEAD, utopianfuture admitted to have Scammed** Post by: From Above on June 12, 2014, 11:04:17 PM what an obvoius smear campaign... i know the guy who made the accounts...it wasnt utopianfuture...it was.... well, i dont tell...you wont belive it :o too much blabla send me 2 BTC and i give you a name ;) if u knew, if u only knew what i know... Title: Re: [NEM] Project Trust & Credibility DEAD, utopianfuture admitted HOAXING** Post by: TaunSew on June 12, 2014, 11:05:51 PM I noticed you just just changed the title from scam to hoaxing
Hoaxing is definitely a more accurate term here. No money was scammed but did he create fake popularity in NEM and that's scandalous, no one can argue otherwise, but I don't think it's a severe thing since practically every coin pads up interest in the beginning with fake accounts (it's a marketing technique). Title: Re: [NEM] Project Trust & Credibility DEAD, utopianfuture admitted HOAXING** Post by: From Above on June 12, 2014, 11:07:02 PM I noticed you just just changed the title from scam to hoaxing Hoaxing is definitely a more accurate term here. No money was scammed but did he create fake popularity in NEM and that's scandalous, no one can argue otherwise, but I don't think it's a severe thing since practically every coin pads up interest in the beginning with fake accounts (it's a marketing technique). yes, im sorry. scamming was incorrect hoaxing fits better. Title: Re: [NEM] Project Trust & Credibility DEAD, utopianfuture admitted to have Scammed** Post by: Ganefull on June 12, 2014, 11:11:33 PM what an obvoius smear campaign... i know the guy who made the accounts...it wasnt utopianfuture...it was.... well, i dont tell...you wont belive it :o too much blabla send me 2 BTC and i give you a name ;) if u knew, if u only knew what i know... you mean.....? http://www.harunyahya.com/image/matrix/neo_morpheus.png Title: Re: [NEM] Project Trust & Credibility DEAD, utopianfuture admitted HOAXING** Post by: From Above on June 12, 2014, 11:13:16 PM just FYI utopianfuture did not really step back. he had to do this post cuz his name is ruined. hes still active in the project under different names. NEM is full of him. do not dare to believe hes gone as he claims, which can clearly be regarded as nothing but another lie.
Title: Re: [NEM] Project Trust & Credibility DEAD, utopianfuture admitted HOAXING** Post by: Ganefull on June 12, 2014, 11:21:41 PM just FYI utopianfuture did not really step back. he had to do this post cuz his name is ruined. hes still active in the project under different names. NEM is full of him. do not dare to believe hes gone as he claims, which can clearly be regarded as nothing but another lie. yeah...exactly the right move to keep up the good work without getting annoyed by crying babys who could never set up an own coin - much less a project like nem. hopefully mother utopionfuture isnt too sad when the loved son changes his name ::) Title: Re: [NEM] Project Trust & Credibility DEAD, utopianfuture admitted HOAXING** Post by: From Above on June 12, 2014, 11:23:08 PM just FYI utopianfuture did not really step back. he had to do this post cuz his name is ruined. hes still active in the project under different names. NEM is full of him. do not dare to believe hes gone as he claims, which can clearly be regarded as nothing but another lie. yeah...exactly the right move to keep up the good work without getting annoyed by crying babys who could never set up an own coin - much less a project like nem. hopefully mother utopionfuture isnt too sad when the loved son changes his name ::) what good work? can u post some examples please? thank u Title: Re: [NEM] Project Trust & Credibility DEAD, utopianfuture admitted HOAXING** Post by: Ganefull on June 12, 2014, 11:26:12 PM just FYI utopianfuture did not really step back. he had to do this post cuz his name is ruined. hes still active in the project under different names. NEM is full of him. do not dare to believe hes gone as he claims, which can clearly be regarded as nothing but another lie. yeah...exactly the right move to keep up the good work without getting annoyed by crying babys who could never set up an own coin - much less a project like nem. hopefully mother utopionfuture isnt too sad when the loved son changes his name ::) what good work? can u post some examples please? thank u well he's involved in a coin which has risen a lot in value even before release... hmm...whats about the coin you created...? ...argh wait....right... Title: Re: [NEM] Project Trust & Credibility DEAD, utopianfuture admitted HOAXING** Post by: From Above on June 12, 2014, 11:26:53 PM just FYI utopianfuture did not really step back. he had to do this post cuz his name is ruined. hes still active in the project under different names. NEM is full of him. do not dare to believe hes gone as he claims, which can clearly be regarded as nothing but another lie. yeah...exactly the right move to keep up the good work without getting annoyed by crying babys who could never set up an own coin - much less a project like nem. hopefully mother utopionfuture isnt too sad when the loved son changes his name ::) what good work? can u post some examples please? thank u well he's involved in a coin which has risen a lot in value even before release... hmm...whats about the coin you created...? ...argh wait....right... sorry I asked for examples of good work not random sentences, can u provide some please? Title: Re: [NEM] Project Trust & Credibility DEAD, utopianfuture admitted HOAXING** Post by: Ganefull on June 12, 2014, 11:29:29 PM just FYI utopianfuture did not really step back. he had to do this post cuz his name is ruined. hes still active in the project under different names. NEM is full of him. do not dare to believe hes gone as he claims, which can clearly be regarded as nothing but another lie. yeah...exactly the right move to keep up the good work without getting annoyed by crying babys who could never set up an own coin - much less a project like nem. hopefully mother utopionfuture isnt too sad when the loved son changes his name ::) what good work? can u post some examples please? thank u well he's involved in a coin which has risen a lot in value even before release... hmm...whats about the coin you created...? ...argh wait....right... sorry I asked for examples of good work not random sentences, can u provide some please? well if you just explained "utopianfuture is everywhere under different names" please proof he haven't done this, for example: http://www.delhidailynews.com/news_image/1399129183Mona-Lisa.jpg Title: Re: [NEM] Project Trust & Credibility DEAD, utopianfuture admitted HOAXING** Post by: From Above on June 12, 2014, 11:30:16 PM this is all u've got? im extremely disappointed.
Title: Re: [NEM] Project Trust & Credibility DEAD, utopianfuture admitted HOAXING** Post by: Ganefull on June 12, 2014, 11:33:43 PM this is all u've got? im extremely disappointed. i also heard his stepbrother - dystopianfuture - did this: http://hdwallpapersbase.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/in-city-atomic-bomb-military-wallpapers-1024x768.jpg Title: Re: [NEM] Project Trust & Credibility DEAD, utopianfuture admitted HOAXING** Post by: From Above on June 12, 2014, 11:34:47 PM this is all u've got? im extremely disappointed. i also heard his stepbrother - dystopianfuture - did this: well thats great. so now u have basically admitted that NEM until now is nothing but blabla vaporware that collected lots of funds right? way to go. thank u this is all u've got? im extremely disappointed. Okay guy. Now this is just overkill. Your first revelation was interesting but you aren't helping anything anymore. who asked u to judge me? i do what i do and thats it. u do what u do. Title: Re: [NEM] Project Trust & Credibility DEAD, utopianfuture admitted HOAXING** Post by: Ganefull on June 12, 2014, 11:39:12 PM this is all u've got? im extremely disappointed. i also heard his stepbrother - dystopianfuture - did this: well thats great. so now u have basically admitted that NEM until now is nothing but blabla vaporware that collected lots of funds right? way to go. thank u dystopianfuture is not connected to NEM - never was. Title: Re: [NEM] Project Trust & Credibility DEAD, utopianfuture admitted HOAXING** Post by: From Above on June 12, 2014, 11:47:34 PM this is all u've got? im extremely disappointed. i also heard his stepbrother - dystopianfuture - did this: well thats great. so now u have basically admitted that NEM until now is nothing but blabla vaporware that collected lots of funds right? way to go. thank u dystopianfuture is not connected to NEM - never was. New NEM thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=650250.0 Title: Re: [NEM] Project Trust & Credibility DEAD, utopianfuture admitted to have Scammed** Post by: Sebastien256 on June 13, 2014, 12:02:07 AM if u knew, if u only knew what i know... please go ahead, free yourself. That will be interesting. Title: Re: [NEM] Project Trust & Credibility DEAD, utopianfuture admitted to have Scammed** Post by: mattadc on June 13, 2014, 09:41:05 AM if u knew, if u only knew what i know... please go ahead, free yourself. That will be interesting. +1 Many interesting comments have been sent during the last night. Few thoughts based on those. utopianfuture's deed was not so dirty as some famous persons' in real life. And those people didn't resign. By resigning utopianfuture increased the level of trust to the NEM community. There will be newcomers to NEM and they may ask, can NEM be trusted. The current NEM-haters will say "NO". Then the question is how the current NEM-supporters can assure the newcomers? Is it enough to have utopianfuture's explanation and core team's comments? No. There is needed the working servers and clients. When the NEM coin is running, everybody understand that utopianfuture's deed was just a human mistake and it didn't affect to NEM. Also then can be evaluated Come-f-a's accusations, which already have been raising to astronomical yards and his real identity, which he keeps advertising and hinting with certain writing styles and by saying he has been in the NEM project. Has been in the NEM project and now tries to destroy it? I'd think twice when hiring such a guy in my projects. Title: Re: [NEM] Project Trust & Credibility DEAD, utopianfuture admitted HOAXING** Post by: MisO69 on June 13, 2014, 01:15:22 PM Typical elitist "Do as I say not as I do".
Crypto seems to attract the type. So now the question is, what is the next scam from his sock puppet accounts? This guy is not going anywhere. Title: Re: [NEM] Project Trust & Credibility DEAD, utopianfuture admitted to have Scammed** Post by: TaunSew on June 13, 2014, 02:06:46 PM if u knew, if u only knew what i know... please go ahead, free yourself. That will be interesting. +1 Many interesting comments have been sent during the last night. Few thoughts based on those. utopianfuture's deed was not so dirty as some famous persons' in real life. And those people didn't resign. By resigning utopianfuture increased the level of trust to the NEM community. There will be newcomers to NEM and they may ask, can NEM be trusted. The current NEM-haters will say "NO". Then the question is how the current NEM-supporters can assure the newcomers? Is it enough to have utopianfuture's explanation and core team's comments? No. There is needed the working servers and clients. When the NEM coin is running, everybody understand that utopianfuture's deed was just a human mistake and it didn't affect to NEM. Also then can be evaluated Come-f-a's accusations, which already have been raising to astronomical yards and his real identity, which he keeps advertising and hinting with certain writing styles and by saying he has been in the NEM project. Has been in the NEM project and now tries to destroy it? I'd think twice when hiring such a guy in my projects. Many new companies (e.g. restaurants) create fake reviews to draw people in. If those restaurants are actually good and later become successful and get good real reviews, should the owner resign? Even in video games, companies bribe Gamespot to get review scores above 80%. Broke our trust sure but UF no longer has anything to do with NEM. Title: Re: [NEM] Project Trust & Credibility DEAD, utopianfuture admitted to have Scammed** Post by: splintcell1 on June 13, 2014, 03:24:07 PM if u knew, if u only knew what i know... please go ahead, free yourself. That will be interesting. +1 Many interesting comments have been sent during the last night. Few thoughts based on those. utopianfuture's deed was not so dirty as some famous persons' in real life. And those people didn't resign. By resigning utopianfuture increased the level of trust to the NEM community. There will be newcomers to NEM and they may ask, can NEM be trusted. The current NEM-haters will say "NO". Then the question is how the current NEM-supporters can assure the newcomers? Is it enough to have utopianfuture's explanation and core team's comments? No. There is needed the working servers and clients. When the NEM coin is running, everybody understand that utopianfuture's deed was just a human mistake and it didn't affect to NEM. Also then can be evaluated Come-f-a's accusations, which already have been raising to astronomical yards and his real identity, which he keeps advertising and hinting with certain writing styles and by saying he has been in the NEM project. Has been in the NEM project and now tries to destroy it? I'd think twice when hiring such a guy in my projects. Many new companies (e.g. restaurants) create fake reviews to draw people in. If those restaurants are actually good and later become successful and get good real reviews, should the owner resign? Even in video games, companies bribe Gamespot to get review scores above 80%. Broke our trust sure but UF no longer has anything to do with NEM. You are one of those People who would justify Hitler of Stalin if you had Invested in Their business. Please be Careful, thx god the Scammer is gone from the Nem ! Nem forever! Title: Re: [NEM] Project Trust & Credibility DEAD, utopianfuture admitted to have Scammed** Post by: jkoil on June 13, 2014, 04:39:25 PM if u knew, if u only knew what i know... please go ahead, free yourself. That will be interesting. +1 Many interesting comments have been sent during the last night. Few thoughts based on those. utopianfuture's deed was not so dirty as some famous persons' in real life. And those people didn't resign. By resigning utopianfuture increased the level of trust to the NEM community. There will be newcomers to NEM and they may ask, can NEM be trusted. The current NEM-haters will say "NO". Then the question is how the current NEM-supporters can assure the newcomers? Is it enough to have utopianfuture's explanation and core team's comments? No. There is needed the working servers and clients. When the NEM coin is running, everybody understand that utopianfuture's deed was just a human mistake and it didn't affect to NEM. Also then can be evaluated Come-f-a's accusations, which already have been raising to astronomical yards and his real identity, which he keeps advertising and hinting with certain writing styles and by saying he has been in the NEM project. Has been in the NEM project and now tries to destroy it? I'd think twice when hiring such a guy in my projects. Many new companies (e.g. restaurants) create fake reviews to draw people in. If those restaurants are actually good and later become successful and get good real reviews, should the owner resign? Even in video games, companies bribe Gamespot to get review scores above 80%. Broke our trust sure but UF no longer has anything to do with NEM. You are one of those People who would justify Hitler of Stalin if you had Invested in Their business. Please be Careful, thx god the Scammer is gone from the Nem ! Nem forever! quoting ;) for the next generations, who do not know the history and they ask, who was Hitler, who was Stalin. Then they can read from "The splintcell1's History" :) jk... the quoting is just for you. Later you can read this, and understand how childish and stupid comments you have liberated from your keyboard. Title: Re: [NEM] Project Trust & Credibility DEAD, utopianfuture admitted to have Scammed** Post by: From Above on June 13, 2014, 06:31:14 PM if u knew, if u only knew what i know... please go ahead, free yourself. That will be interesting. +1 Many interesting comments have been sent during the last night. Few thoughts based on those. utopianfuture's deed was not so dirty as some famous persons' in real life. And those people didn't resign. By resigning utopianfuture increased the level of trust to the NEM community. There will be newcomers to NEM and they may ask, can NEM be trusted. The current NEM-haters will say "NO". Then the question is how the current NEM-supporters can assure the newcomers? Is it enough to have utopianfuture's explanation and core team's comments? No. There is needed the working servers and clients. When the NEM coin is running, everybody understand that utopianfuture's deed was just a human mistake and it didn't affect to NEM. Also then can be evaluated Come-f-a's accusations, which already have been raising to astronomical yards and his real identity, which he keeps advertising and hinting with certain writing styles and by saying he has been in the NEM project. Has been in the NEM project and now tries to destroy it? I'd think twice when hiring such a guy in my projects. Many new companies (e.g. restaurants) create fake reviews to draw people in. If those restaurants are actually good and later become successful and get good real reviews, should the owner resign? Even in video games, companies bribe Gamespot to get review scores above 80%. Broke our trust sure but UF no longer has anything to do with NEM. You are one of those People who would justify Hitler of Stalin if you had Invested in Their business. Please be Careful, thx god the Scammer is gone from the Nem ! Nem forever! quoting ;) for the next generations, who do not know the history and they ask, who was Hitler, who was Stalin. Then they can read from "The splintcell1's History" :) jk... the quoting is just for you. Later you can read this, and understand how childish and stupid comments you have liberated from your keyboard. well hes somewhat right albeit a little extreme in his choice of examplee i would say TaunSew wouldnt mind if some people would die for his nemstake Title: Re: [NEM] Project Trust & Credibility DEAD, utopianfuture admitted to have Scammed** Post by: From Above on June 13, 2014, 09:38:41 PM Anything you have to say is irrelevant from this point out. You purposefully tried to crash the price of NEM so you could buy more. You are a disgusting, dishonest, useless individual. envy is a waste of time nutildah. i never crashed a price. nemstake price was and is low. Title: Re: [NEM] Project Trust & Credibility DEAD, utopianfuture admitted HOAXING** Post by: limingz on June 13, 2014, 09:43:36 PM When will nem launch? What can we buy from nemstake?
Title: Re: [NEM] Project Trust & Credibility DEAD, utopianfuture admitted HOAXING** Post by: From Above on June 13, 2014, 09:44:47 PM When will nem launch? What can we buy from nemstake? nemstake is used to convert to NEM after launch; one nemstake is traded at ab. $1500 at the moment and converts to 1 million NEM later on. NEM Alpha launch 25.June. Title: Re: [NEM] Project Trust & Credibility DEAD, utopianfuture admitted HOAXING** Post by: limingz on June 13, 2014, 09:49:05 PM Charecter fitst and coin second.So I believe in NAS_COIN more.I think NAS will win in all the nxt clones.
Title: Re: [NEM] Project Trust & Credibility DEAD, utopianfuture admitted HOAXING** Post by: From Above on June 13, 2014, 09:49:44 PM Charecter fitst and coin second.So I believe in NAS_COIN more.I think NAS will win in all the nxt clones. sorry but NAS coin is nothing but a mindless clone. do not be blind. Title: Re: [NEM] Project Trust & Credibility DEAD, utopianfuture admitted to have Scammed** Post by: From Above on June 13, 2014, 09:53:48 PM Anything you have to say is irrelevant from this point out. You purposefully tried to crash the price of NEM so you could buy more. You are a disgusting, dishonest, useless individual. envy is a waste of time nutildah. i never crashed a price. nemstake price was and is low. The price is now at 21000. Last night the price was down into the 17000s. Everything you say is a lie. You are disgusting and cannot be trusted. The best way to deal with you is to put you on ignore. I hope enough people here can put the pieces together for themselves to figure out you are also just a selfish lying retard, hellbent on making the world a stupider place for a living. Good is when money is in my pocket. The maxime of Nem is financial freedom. Fair is if i'm rich. If u dont like it leave Nem. Nem is not for those who want no gains, sorry nutildah. i am sorry but post ur nem address and i send you some. Title: Re: [NEM] Project Trust & Credibility DEAD, utopianfuture admitted HOAXING** Post by: limingz on June 13, 2014, 10:07:51 PM Charecter fitst and coin second.So I believe in NAS_COIN more.I think NAS will win in all the nxt clones. sorry but NAS coin is nothing but a mindless clone. do not be blind. Title: Re: [NEM] Project Trust & Credibility DEAD, utopianfuture admitted HOAXING** Post by: From Above on June 13, 2014, 10:08:48 PM Charecter fitst and coin second.So I believe in NAS_COIN more.I think NAS will win in all the nxt clones. sorry but NAS coin is nothing but a mindless clone. do not be blind. LOL :D :D :D |
