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Specifications:

- block target - 60 seconds
- block_reward = log₂(difficulty) * 2⁴⁰ [1]
- difficulty retarget every block
- CryptoNight PoW
- merged mining with Bytecoin, QuazarCoin, Monero or any other CryptoNight-based coin [2]
- total supply: infinite

[1] - Moneta Verde is the first cryptocoin with blockreward increasing together with difficulty.
Block reward formula is a fixed point implementation of log₂(difficulty). This means that block reward increases much slower than difficulty: for 1 coin to be added to block reward a difficulty must be increased twice. This rate looks to be reasonable.

The goal is decline in deflation. The less the deflation the more it is profitable to save up some MCN. Deflation ruins the usage of cryptocurrency as a legal tender. I suppose the deflation wouldn’t be gone entirely but will decrease significantly.
And the infinite emission is the outcome of a positive feedback, it is not an end in itself.

[2] - Merged mining works like this: you have two totally separate block chains, they are not related in any way nor does either contain any data from the other. When you mine you generate hashes that may be the solution to the current block, this is very very improbable per hash, its like a lottery where everyone generates tickets until someone finds the winning one.

Normally you make tickets and check them against the BCN/QCN/XMR or other CN coin block chain to see if they are the solution. With merged mining you create a ticket and check it against both the any CN-based coin block chain and the MonetaVerde block chain,  CN based coin and MCN know nothing about each other, they are two totally different lotteries with different winning numbers, you just sent a copy of your ticket to both. Since you are sending the same ticket to two lotteries you increase your chances of winning one or the other.

Coins remain totally separate, you simply run both the MonetaVerde and oter CN coin clients on the same machine and submit hashes to both networks. If your hash is the solution to the Monetaverde block you get monetaverdes if you hash is the solution to the other coin block you get both coins. It's exactly like if you where mining on just one network, except you submit the same work twice.


Downloads:

Win32 (https://mega.co.nz/#!wFh0jQwL!f_-kLZwkcXhNcwmAIsKXFJxTzAW7Rpmoky-tRu9qQJE)
Win64 (https://mega.co.nz/#!IEpkTJxS!CsSIWtd9XmhQcNnfz9QvfUpwj0Eupvq0ojoR2VobiAA)
Linux (https://mega.co.nz/#!kI4mEKZb!tR-XRruYiGN4Z4Tr5fLtKdsxxb0Tv2cW-8rqzro50wQ)
Mac (https://mega.co.nz/#!5YQ3lTSZ!5ARNZjNEunWXurbePgq6SqJkZvmnyOvZJSFot76jX5c)
Source (https://github.com/cryptomidnight/monetaverde)

Pools:

https://minergate.com/pool-stats/mcn (https://minergate.com/pool-stats/mcn)
http://mcn.extremepool.org (http://mcn.extremepool.org)

Block Explorer:

http://chainradar.com/mcn/blocks (http://chainradar.com/mcn/blocks)
https://minergate.com/blockchain/mcn/blocks (https://minergate.com/blockchain/mcn/blocks)

Exchanges:

MCN's exchange: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=658096.0 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=658096.0)
Poloniex: https://www.poloniex.com/exchange/btc_mcn (https://www.poloniex.com/exchange/btc_mcn)
Alt2Bit: https://www.alt2bit.com/ (https://www.alt2bit.com/)
Vote for MonetaVerde! https://hitbtc.com/vote (https://hitbtc.com/vote)

Services:

Exchange rate Moneta Verde (MCN) / Bitcoin (https://www.cryptonator.com/rates/MCN-BTC)
Conversion tool (https://www.cryptonator.com/)

Social:

Website: http://monetaverde.org/
Twitter: https://twitter.com/MonetaVerde
Reddit: http://www.reddit.com/r/MonetaVerde
Cryptocointalk: https://cryptocointalk.com/topic/12455-moneta-verde-mcn-information/ (https://cryptocointalk.com/topic/12455-moneta-verde-mcn-information/)
Announcement: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=653141.msg7326759#msg7326759 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=653141.msg7326759#msg7326759)

Translations:

Spanish (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=661703.new#new)
Serbian (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=51450.msg7403467#msg7403467)

Is minerc optimized enough or it is a waste for mining XMR, BCN etc?

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Roadmap

☑   2017 JUL Release Aventus Alpha
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•   2017 JUL Create Alpha video guide
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•   2017 JUL Set parnership with XXXX
•   2017 Q3 DeepOnion Trades at Exchanges
•   2017 Q3 Twitter Campaign Starts
•   2017 Q3 Facebook Campaign Starts

News about the project in https://blog.aventus.io/:

14-06-2017 https://blog.aventus.io/what-would-adeles-finale-tour-have-looked-like-with-aventus-ca3c81ff9aed - Кaк выглядeл бы финaльный тyp Aдeль, ecли бы для пpoдaжи билeтoв нa кoнцepты иcпoльзoвaли Aventus
19-06-2017 https://blog.aventus.io/aventus-a-blockchain-based-event-ticketing-solution-is-pleased-to-announce-details-about-its-9a8168ae3724 (пepeвeдeнo!) - инфopмaция o пpoдaжe тoкeнoв Aventus
19-06-2017 https://blog.aventus.io/aventus-no-more-empty-seats-4b8722013cba - Кaк peшить пpoблeмy пycтыx кpeceл нa кoнцepтax?
30-06-2017 https://blog.aventus.io/aventus-token-sale-bug-bounty-55a5d09bc5d9 - Пpoгpaммa нaгpaд для тex ктo нaйдeт yязвимocти в cмapт кoнтpaктe
03-07-2017 https://blog.aventus.io/shoutout-to-the-sports-teams-putting-their-fans-first-4thefans-bccf55507139 - Cпacибo тeм cпopтивным кoмaндaм, кoтopыe нe зaбывaют o cвoиx бoлeльщикax!
06-07-2017 https://blog.aventus.io/blue-horizon-entertainment-chooses-blockchain-ticketing-platform-aventus-30dadfeac122 Blue Horison aнoнcиpyeт пapтнepcтвo c Aventus
11-07-2017 https://blog.aventus.io/aventus-releases-the-official-ico-participation-guide-c6e572851b7e - инcтpyкция для yчacтия в пyбличнoй пpoдaжe
14-07-2017 https://blog.aventus.io/aventus-alpha-release-on-rinkeby-public-test-net-18d549520c70 - инcтpyкция пo иcпoльзoвaнию Aльфa вepcии.

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It was announced here:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=653141.0

i am in

I’ve attempted to reach positive feedback between demand and emission in MonetaVerde.
As I know this is the first such attempt.
My goal is decline in deflation. The less the deflation the more it is profitable to save up some MCN. Deflation ruins the usage of cryptocurrency as a legal tender. I suppose the deflation wouldn’t be gone entirely but will decrease significantly. And the infinite emission is the outcome of a positive feedback, it is not an end in itself.

How can I find current diff  ?

maybe need a pool.
Only Minergate.com  can do this..

The MonetaVerde's exchange is launched!

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=658096.new#new (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=658096.new#new)

Great! Thanks a lot!

The current difficulty shows in daemon console every time a block is found.

Very good coin and nice design!

Is solo mining only way to mine now? There are no pools?

Put it on Poloniex voting page!

Thank you darko84!

33zer0w0lf  tried  to make one, it's under construction now. [url=http://mcn.extremepool.org]mcn.extremepool.org (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=305522[/url)
The technology of MCN is much more difficult than Monero or Quazar have. So it's not so simple to make a pool for MCN.
When somebody will make a pool you can be sure that this man has very goof brain. 

Yes, I'm going to add MCN to coinlists and voting pages soon.

We need block Explorer!

Serbian translation (European language)!  :)

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=51450.msg7403467#msg7403467 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=51450.msg7403467#msg7403467)

It would be nice to see this coin on MiinerGate!

1. Where to get BNC, XMR and QCN binaries? In their official threads?

2. in command line i wil have to put my wallet address of XMR, QCN and BNC also?


I dont have ideas what i am doing, but i love to learn :P

"MonetaVerde is the first coin with the block reward increasing with difficulty growth"

lol.... way to completely miss the entire economic theory behind mining reward vs difficulty adjustment.

Agree. I'm working on it.

And any help would be useful!

CryptoNight-based coins:

Bytecoin (BCN) (https://bytecoin.org)

Quazarcoin (QCN) (http://quazarcoin.org/)

Monero (XMR) (http://bitmonero.org/)

Or use this link - https://forum.cryptonote.org/viewforum.php?f=6 (https://forum.cryptonote.org/viewforum.php?f=6)

Could you include a rich list?

Remember that CryptoNote technology makes all the coin transactions anonymous so it's impossible to make a rich list.

How does your wallet then know what the total coins in it is if it does not analyse the block chain?

Is the dev still around?

I was busy working on MCN. will be here in a few hours.

Spanish translation!

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=661703.new#new (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=661703.new#new)

Serbian translation:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=51450.msg7403467#msg7403467 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=51450.msg7403467#msg7403467)

Serbian forum:

http://forum.benchmark.rs/showthread.php?328905-MonetaVerde-MCN-%28CryptoNight%29&p=3790349#post3790349 (http://forum.benchmark.rs/showthread.php?328905-MonetaVerde-MCN-%28CryptoNight%29&p=3790349#post3790349)

Thank you darko84  (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=112560)

Good news. CryptoNote news.

http://webcoin.me/mcn/  (http://webcoin.me/mcn/)

This is another attempt to make a pool. (not working yet)

Folks! As we all  know it’s not enough to use copy and paste  to develop good MCN pool. So... we all have the  opportunity to check how smart and skillfull we are.   Who is the Hero? Who will develop MCN’s pool to our community?   Let's make it work! And of course, we should do it faster than Fantomcoin guys... Just because we are the coolest   8)

Guys! I do believe in MonetaVerde. I do my best but my education doesn't include marketing.

 Do you have marketing experience?

Any ideas are welcomed. Teach me please!

why relaunch?why?

What relaunch?

MonetaVerde has the first pool! https://minergate.com/pool-stats/mcn (https://minergate.com/pool-stats/mcn)

No, guy. Should be much better that you teach us. ;D
Can you explain us,how two days copy coin, having only two pages tread, have been listed on poloniex. 8)
 ;D

Moneta Verde (MCN) is not a relaunch.

MountCoin (MNT) was relaunched after finding a new Dev.

I'm a friendly guy you know :)

Seriously this guy helped MCN: darko84  (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=112560)
He added MCN TO Poloniex

       Love shopping?

       Want to buy the Rockminer 36Gh/s?

       Or need new perfume? May be Original Unlocked 16GB iPhone 5S?

       Now you can pay for it in MonetaVerde!

       A first shop with MonetaVerde!

       http://bitscoinshop.com.br/en/ (http://bitscoinshop.com.br/en/)

Cryptomidnight, how do you send coins from the simplewallet? It seems my wallet in locked! :-l

Can you tell me your transaction id?

I don't think it even got that far.

EDIT: I'll try again later from home and will post the exact error message in here.

Ok.

Please refresh your wallet, then use incoming_transfers command, copy everything and send me.

note: I tried to SEND coins from the wallet. Receiving them was no problem.

I get it. But I still ask you to do this.

Yes, please.

Ok I tried again tonight and it worked, the coins were not locked anymore. How long does it actually take for a transaction to be fully confirmed and the coins to be available? It seems to be taking hours!

Logo = hammer about to hit a leaf. K got it.

I'm working on it.

Does anybody have the same problem?

Yeah because it's like Communist but more like into Ecology stuff, definitely capitalist but also Anonymous.

http://www.resizr.com/resized/06b9.jpg

Hammer is a metaphore of mining (in literal sense) ;)

Definitely capitalist.

MonetaVerde is a significant currency for the whole world and it has nothing to do with communism

Ecology is the essence of MonetaVerde.

https://i.imgur.com/6EMZBaC.jpg

Hey guys!

We have just added MCN to Cryptonator (https://www.cryptonator.com/) so now you can use all its free features

• Convert it to any other crypto or fiat using converter (https://www.cryptonator.com/)
• Check progress with Winners & Losers (https://www.cryptonator.com/winners-losers)
• Track value of all owned coins using Portfolio (https://www.cryptonator.com/auth/login)
• Find exchanges which trades MCN on Exchanges (https://www.cryptonator.com/exchange)
• Place fully customizable price tickers (https://www.cryptonator.com/widget) on your website

Should you own an iPhone or an Android device, we also have all these in our free mobile apps for iOS (https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/cryptonator/id859201083) / Android (https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.aev.cryptonator)

Cheers

https://www.cryptonator.com/ui/img/logo-no-text.png (https://www.cryptonator.com/)

Excellent thank you!  :)

welcome )

MonetaVerde needs to show on Coinmarketcap too...

I totally agree with you. Soon.

Now you can see the amount of coins emitted:

https://minergate.com/blockchain/mcn/blocks (https://minergate.com/blockchain/mcn/blocks)

infinite supply!? wut?

Is there a GUI wallet in the works?

Of course it is. This task in not at the top of my priorities list at the moment but would be goood to make this wallet soon.

If you need more explanations clarify your question please.

The author sets the number of coins is infinite, lead prices do not rise up, so few people participate in the acquisition, This coin is there a future？

I voted! Hope that my voice will help you! 

Everyone be careful，MCN of poloniex may Be closed！！！

Need more action here. Updates, news, giveaways. Whatever...

I think the dev said a team was being put together for promotion and other stuff. Is that correct?

Needs to happen soon.....

The author has to give up the coin, ready to develop new coin.

Agree. This alternative currency has a great opportunities here. But nothing will happen without devs.

Why? Moneta Verde is amazing. We don't need another altcoin

Can't understand why you people are in love with this altcoin. Just because of blockreward system?

Because of merged mining, man!

Of course you are right and  blockreward idea is nice, but the only reason why i'm here is merged mining. 

Dev is here.

https://cryptrader.com/charts/poloniex/mcn/btc (https://cryptrader.com/charts/poloniex/mcn/btc)

Check MonetaVerde's reddit! (http://www.reddit.com/r/MonetaVerde/comments/2ao2l4/minergate_stratum_payment_id_implemented/) Now you can connect to Minergate.com using ANY miner and send funds directly to merchants or exchanges!

Guys - Dev, Real, How much do you need money to create a normal wallet? not a console. Just say to us a quantity of dollars.

Thank you very match

how to change folder for data?

monetaverded.exe -datadir=E:\monetaverde\

don't work.

 --data-dir

You can use this to check: --help

You'll find all the options there. 

this way?
monetaverded.exe --data-dir E:\monetaverde\

i run monetaverded.exe then type "help" - Enter (no options for change dir)

Commands:
  help            Show this help
  hide_hr         Stop showing hash rate
  print_bc        Print blockchain info in a given blocks range, print_
_height> [<end_height>]
  print_block     Print block, print_block <block_hash> | <block_height
  print_cn        Print connections
  print_pl        Print peer list
  print_pool      Print transaction pool (long format)
  print_pool_sh   Print transaction pool (short format)
  print_tx        Print transaction, print_tx <transaction_hash>
  save            Save blockchain
  set_log         set_log <level> - Change current log detalization lev
l> is a number 0-4
  show_hr         Start showing hash rate
  start_mining    Start mining for specified address, start_mining <add
ds=1]
  stop_mining     Stop mining

--help - dont work

014-Jul-18 22:58:01.241605 [P2P4]ERROR c:\users\user\monetaverde\contrib\epee\i
clude\net\abstract_tcp_server2.inl:307 send que size is more than ABSTRACT_SERV
R_SEND_QUE_MAX_COUNT(100), shutting down connection
014-Jul-18 22:58:01.253605 [P2P4]ERROR c:\users\user\monetaverde\contrib\epee\i
clude\net\levin_protocol_handler_async.h:638 [113.240.243.138:26080 OUT]Failed
o do_send()
014-Jul-18 22:58:01.306608 [P2P6]ERROR c:\users\user\monetaverde\contrib\epee\i
clude\net\abstract_tcp_server2.inl:307 send que size is more than ABSTRACT_SERV
R_SEND_QUE_MAX_COUNT(100), shutting down connection
014-Jul-18 22:58:01.318609 [P2P6]ERROR c:\users\user\monetaverde\contrib\epee\i
clude\net\levin_protocol_handler_async.h:638 [113.240.243.138:26080 OUT]Failed
o do_send()

what this means?

whats mean
block_reward = log2(difficulty) * 2^40
 
what mean * 2^40 ?

for example difficulty will be 1024 then block_reward = 10 ?

Anything new here? What about some gorgeous news about your currency?

Nice and very usefull design. Now i can see everything which were happened with Moneta Verde. Many thanks. 

What do you mean "gorgeous news"? Now Moneta has its own subreddit and awesome graphics on cryptrader. Do you want some more?

Can't wait for you being on the live market data!

Does not impress. Just because it's empty.

And it won't. But if you want to see it full of information - you should give them a chance. Wait for a couple of weeks.

Why should i wait? It's not an argument. The time wich they need to fulfill their subreddit is an indicator of their community base.

Are you kidding me? Your posts told me that you are BCN fan too. But BCN subreddit isn't full of topics... so don't be so rude with them! Moneta Verde has a good foundation and nice devs so let them try

 You don’t know how to make use of a default dir for blockchain storage? (no sarcasm)

2^40 means two to the power of forty. Or pow(2; 40).

Glad to hear it.

MonetaVerde is finally on CoinMarketCap.com!

http://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/monetaverde/ (http://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/monetaverde/)

https://i.imgur.com/zAvyQP0.png

i dont know. in bitcoin
should create .bat file
for example monetaverded.exe -datadir=E:\monetaverde\
then start bat file.

moneta use for default C:\
i dont have free space on C:\
therefore need change defaul dir. so how can i make it?

so if difficulty 1024 then block_reward = log2(1024)*2^40= 10 * 1,099,511,627,776 = 10995116277760 coins?

its very strange

You do well but look at this carefully  --data-dir

hyphen

Monetaverde, fantom, quazar will go up sharply once any or all of them have a normal wallet regular people can use.

Monetaverde has the most to gain right now.

Could become a major coin but only if it gets a useable wallet.

10.995116277760 minimal units. You missed the point.

EPIC! Congrats!

Coinmarketcup will give me a huge preferences with using my favourite Moneta Verde!

Moneta Verde's cryptotrader page doesn't open. Yesterday everything were fine, but right now I have a black screen without any information (i'm using Google Chrome). Any idea?

So... i still should say that your reddit doesn't impress. It's empty. Nothing to do there. Hope that this topic wouldn't be abandoned

I prefer when users follow me on Reddit because they are interested in what I have to say and not because they are paid for it. The only way you can create a large community on Reddit in 3 weeks is through money. So what’s your problem? You are not impressed that I’ve not paid to bring people on my page?

Hi, I have a question about Moneta Verde. Next to 'Total Supply' is listed 'Infinite.

I am not a miner, maybe that is a good thing for miners. But as a small investor it concerns me a little. Of course no one would buy a coin whose actual supply is infinite, so I think rather the supply "undefined" or "variable with market conditions".

Moneta Verde is a nice altcoin in my opinion. Above all it seems to have been developed ethically and with some thought. But before I invest too much (lol, market capitalization is near zero right now) it would be nice to have a realistic maximum number of coins that could exist.

Currently there are approximately 1.5 million MCN in circulation. Can a person say with reasonable certainty that in one year there will be < 1 billion? Or perhaps < 100 million?

I understand that supply varies with demand, and consider that one of the coin's strongest points, but a realistic ceiling on supply, even an educated estimate, would be helpful.

Thanks.

There will probably be 40 to 50 million mcn by 2015 years end. If cn coins become popular perhaps 200 million or more.

Dev, top work, I'm interested in how things develop here because there seems to be not so much hype as there has been before - what are your development plans mid-term in terms of publicity? Very much considering buying in if there's enough energy behind it!

        https://i.imgur.com/jNu3WUo.jpg  Attention, please! I’m extremely pleased to present you the CN Block Explorer. Check out its exceptionally useful and well-detailed features! Some of you might remember that I’ve been missing for a whole month. So as you see I haven’t been fooling around all this time.  I’m open to your suggestions as to how to improve the website. PM me if you’ve got smth to share.


Visit this thread to see the details: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=716980.msg8099996#msg8099996 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=716980.msg8099996#msg8099996)



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https://i.imgur.com/nqfrkdV.png Bytecoin BCN blockchain (http://chainradar.com/bcn/blocks)                         https://i.imgur.com/nqfrkdV.png Monero XMR blockchain (http://chainradar.com/xmr/blocks)

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https://i.imgur.com/nqfrkdV.png duckNote XDN blockchain (http://chainradar.com/xdn/blocks)                       https://i.imgur.com/nqfrkdV.png MonetaVerde MCN blockchain (http://chainradar.com/mcn/blocks)

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That is epic! ;D exactly what moneta needs to have more attention from other coin users, thanks and congratulations!

Thank you!  Good job.

Thank you, djarot! I suppose marketing issues are the most important for MCN now. And I'm trying to be added to coin services. Every coin needs good infrastructure.

I like you point of view and respect your for attracting people by your own without paying them

MonetaVerde was added to Extremepool! huzza!!

1% fee

http://mcn.extremepool.org (http://mcn.extremepool.org)

Wow! The fee is so small! Hope that somedays we will se pool with zero fees =D

Nice to see you here with a CN block explorer. Other currencies have a tend to present their "unique" block explorers that's why MCN need one too!

You got it wrong. Blocks explorer are common for some coins at the same time. But the fact is that since now MCN has a same Block Explorer as Quazar or BBR makes me happy. To the Moon!

Ya man, nice to see a spike on Polo...
Though the volume is still microscopic.

Hi Dev and the MCN community!

Can we get some of the cryptonote images/diagrams from their site onto the OP?  More information to let people know that it is indeed anonymous and part of the new cryptonote code, such as XMR has on their OP?

Also, can you add a list of current bounties to the OP, such as language translations and maybe a faucet? If these bounties get filled I am willing to donate to the bounty address (needs to also add to the OP).

Coinmarketcap.com needs to be notified to point to the MCN blockchain on ChainRadar for good stats.

We need more miners, without the high hashrate it'll all go down the tube. To get the higher hashrate it's obviously got to be made profitable for the miners, scrap some BTC together and start building up some buy walls.

Is there a tentative date for the QT wallet?

Finally, what's the word on getting MCN on more exchanges, Bittrex would be nice.

There needs to be more emphasis on the fact that MCN is a GREEN COIN.

What exactly does this mean? Well, merged mining.

You can merge mine this coin along with any other cryptonote without losing hash power or increasing resource usage in any way.

The entire 19MH/s on XMR right now, could also be mining MCN at the same time. Yes, FREE money that apparently nobody knows about.

This is a good marketing point.

Thank you for all your hard work Dev!

Hi, please check out minergate.com

There are specific ports you point to merge mine (https://minergate.com/altminers/claymore-gpu), meaning you will mine 2 coins at once, both at the same hashrate. This is NOT split hashrate, if you mined at 1000H/s on XMR beforehand, you will continue to do so if you merged mined both XMR and MCN.

As for the actual technical aspects on how it works: magic

Never heard this term "GREEN COIN". So if we can get coin by merged mining it is called green coin?

Yep, that's right. And I'm wondering how big is the list of green coins

There are only 2 right now, MCN and Fantomcoin (FCN)

Moneta Verde translates as literally "Green Coin"

It would be too much information.  Anyone who is interested can watch cryptonote images and diagrams on their site

I do not see anything bad in more information about cryptonote technology here.

By the way, how long does MCN have this logo? no thoughts to change it?

Do you have any ideas for new one? Do we need a logo contest?

To all: sorry for not answering your questions for so long. I'm back from unexpected trip and ready to support you and to continue coin development and promotion.

Welcome back!

It's Green coin because due to energy savings, isn't it?

That's right! Btw, I am curios what pool do you use to mine MCN? Minergate or Extreme pool?

I mine on Extreme pool, it has higher h/r and no problems with rewarding

I'v been mining on extremepool until it crashed some days ago, so I started solo mining and think it's great to mine independently

I've been mining on Minergate for about a month, but the difficulty dropped, so I moved back to solo mining as well as other guys.  Now I think that solo mining is better than mining on pool as there are lots of bugs on pool

Dear developers,
I'm interested in how things developed here because there seems to be not so much hype as there has been before - what are your development plans mid-term in terms of publicity? Very much considering buying in if there's enough energy behind it!

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I mine MCN for a couple of weeks and what I've found is that  MM protect from 51% of hack attacks !!!
That's great it has protection as nowadays there are a lot of hack attacks , especially among altcoins

That's impressive! I'd said that MCN has a lot of advantages. I'd say that because of the developer who are fully involved in improving MCN

Great news! That's a little step for us but still it's an important step forward.

 IMO , it's a great step forward as Alt2Bit is a good-working exchange .

Do we have block explorer for Moneta Verde?

of cause, we have block explore,here you go  - http://chainradar.com/mcn/blocks
It's new block explorer with nice interface. I'm fond of it  :)

Moneta Verda is a good coin but the curent price is far from the real price.

I agree with you. the real price of the coin is much higher

What affects the value of the coin? Are there lots of factors?

I heard about alt2bit.com lots of times. It's great that our coin is there too now :)

A great exchange and a great coin. They were destined to meet each other! :D

The interface is really very nice. My respects to its designer ;)

Hi guys! What coins do you find most perspective? Is MonetaVerde among them?

I think it makes no sense to mention bitcoin. Also I'm mining FCN and MCN of course. otherwise, what would I do here :D

Merged mining provides high safety and crypto stability. and makes MCN profitable of course

IMO all cryptonote based coins will have a great future and MonetaVerde is one of them.

All of them? I don't think so. There are a lot of shit forks and coins with bugs. MCN stands out against this background because of the flawless code

The future is for cryptocurrencies based on cryptonote technology. MCN is one of them.

I find MCN an outstanding coin. I think it will surpass many other cryptonote based coins

Interesting opinion. Can you explain it?

I like the coin Verde, but there are other cool coins too. so I need good arguments from you :D

I lost 5 BTC trading this coin on poloniex, i think for now is a no go area.

Philosophy and real actions of MCN devs shows care about protection the environment. in the future this issue will be most actual

How could it happen? I've never lost my money trading MCN.

MonetaVerde has a nice rate. I've only increased my money trading it...

Who gives a shit to the environment? Everyone thinks about how they can earn more

Agree with you.  Extra money without additional energy costs that what's make sence!

What do you exactly mean by extra money without additional energy costs? I don't know something interesting?

You get twice more coins with the same energy consumption. thanks to merged mining

To get more pools mining MCN, I would suggest everyone contacting the cryptonote pool software creators, and ask about adding support for MCN. More importantly, asking them to add support for merge mining MCN:

https://github.com/zone117x/node-cryptonote-pool
https://github.com/fancoder/cryptonote-universal-pool (latest fork, supports FCN already!)

Edit: Oh, I guess the fancoder build does already include support for MCN, however the only one with the updated version is extremepool.org. So I guess we would need to start contacting the actual pool owners and get them to update their pool software to the latest version that runs MCN. Finally, fancoder should still be contacted and asked about adding merge mining support.

Yep, absolutely no reason everybody shouldn't be merge mining. There's nothing to lose!

It's NOT split hashrate, if you mine XMR at 500H/s, and if you merged mined you would continue to mine XMR at 500H/s as well as MCN at 500H/s, at the same time, without using additional power.

It's soooo GREEN!

This merged mining is an awesome thing. What genius has invented it?

It was invented in early 2011 by "vinced", the guy who created Namecoin.

Here is his publication on it: https://github.com/vinced/namecoin/blob/mergedmine/doc/README_merged-mining.md

We don't know who Vince was, and he disappeared from public view years ago. Yet his contribution, both merged mining and Namecoin, live on.

Dear vinced, if you are reading this letters now, give us know. We'd like to say thanks to you for your contributions in our profit :D

Is the term GREEN COIN a new thing or it was invented at the same time with the merged mining?

I highly doubt that someone knew about MCN in early 2011 when MM was invented

How lucky we are now not only to know about this coin but to mine it ;)

MonetaVerde has an unusual logo, like no else coins have. why was this design chosen?

I think it's connected with the name of the coin and it's general concept

How can MonetaVerde be associated with hammer and leaf? I don't get it

Everything is simple. Hammer is associated with mining. Leaf and green background plays with the concept of green coin

I've never analyzed this issue. Excellent smart design!

A lot of vacuous spammy comments on this thread but the dev seems honest and reliable.

Might be a good coin.

Wait and see.

June it was trading around 0.00058000. Now its around 0.00000120 or about 1/5000 of its price in mid June.

The flip side though is that if it goes back up 1 bitcoin of mcn today will be worth about 5,000 bitcoin.

 Hard to tell if cryptonote coins are going to catch on.

devs are really honest and reliable professionals who do their job well

Developer is crazy about his idea and consults with the community. We all see this.

The dev last posted on the 7th and even then it was to apologise for not being around previously. This was it:

I can now confirm that merge mining will be implemented into the cryptonote pool software being used by the majority of pool operators.

The update should available within a week.

Hello MCN Community!

I am working on a GUI wallet for MCN.

I want to make something different from other cryptonote GUI wallets, so my implementation does not require certain steps to get it started (opening simplewallet or the daemon separately, etc) nor does it require certain software to be installed to run it (.NET, etc). You simply start the program and it will have everything self-contained. As simple as a bitcoin QT wallet. It will also work on MAC and Linux.

I am posting here asking for some people to test it out for me before I release it, I just need a few people. Right now, I'm only looking for Windows users to test it. So please send me a PM if you're interested in testing this out and I will be able to send a version to you soon.

Thanks!

I really don't understand why they delisted qcn and fcn... they have a lot of shit coins and remove good ones just because they don't have big volumes right now  :(

I remember in end of May, Poloniex toolbox was full of QCN is new Darkcoin.

This bitch is gonna launch any second. Im buying!!

I think MonetaVerde and some other CN coins would profit if a bitcoin bubble happens, but a little bit delayed. Part of the BTC bubble money will go to MCN. If bitcoin bubbles, many new rich people will be created that are already aware of MCN and CN. This will give very much up pressure and I think also a lot of competition in the mining business (since people get 10x more fiat, means 10x more mining power for the same amount of BTC, difficulty will explode). But everything will be delayed. I think this kind of delayed movement is good visible witch LTC during the last BTC bubble. The delay will not be long, maybe 3-7 banking days, since also fiat has to be moved.

Just realized how much potential this altcoin really have.  I'mining a lot right now.

MonetaVerde is a good coin. Buy and hold long term. Bitcoin seems to be locked in downtrend, that could last for weeks.

Already seen it today. MCN is holding up very good for a coin launched a month ago. Wouldn't be suprise to see another run up to in a few days.

We need MonetaVerde shirts, imma rock that this summer.  ;D

I'm expecting a larger market cap once it becomes apparent that MCN is very useful right now with no changes to other CN coins! A lot of exchanges will trade crypto pairs without identification. If you have CN you can sign up and trade it for MCN. Then you open another exchange account and sell the MCN for other CN. There will be nothing linking old CN coins with new CN coins. The trail goes cold in MCN!

Being able to trade other coins against MCN is itself a valuable use (speculation) for the coin that puts it ahead of just about every other coin. What makes a coin valuable ultimately is that it is useful, and these trading pairs are an important milestone on that path for MonertaVerde.

I see MCN as useful right now even though it can't be spend anywhere! MCN to me is more of a plug-in then a alternative currency. MCN can be plugged into (traded) with any currency that needs privacy.

As is your sock supply!

Currently MCN is in its very early stages and its rare for such a project to get so much attention so quickly. Given this fact the currency is volatile and the swings can be quick a deep, that being said there is a lot of serious money invested in XMR so you know your not going to buy a shitcoin that goes down to 1% of your investment.

To all: This is my favorite...
The Dev pulls out of a drinking binge long enough for this idiotic post...
No, man, we need to shave out nuts and have a potato sack race.

MCN has been some kind of scam from Day One...
They pop up out of nowhere with a LOT of hashing power and BUY an instant slot on Polo...
Dump that shit and then let the coin death spiral 99% to basically zero.

The botnet is gone... everybody can move on to the next CryptoNote scam.

The feature you are touting, extreme anonymity, has no market. It is an idiot feature. mcn and other cn coins are surviveable only to the extent they can attract mainstream support and there is no mainstream support for such a feature.

Bitcoin has sufficient anonymity for any user.

Criminals are not even interested in this kind of extreme anonymity.

The only people pushing such extreme and unnecessary privacy algos are government wanks who set up these barely credible projects to justify their salaries and pretend to catch criminals.

If you ignore the murky origin of cn, you must admit that it may be a good algo even if it has a hidden access point. The cryptographers who developed it are probably among the best at whatever agency. The coin and the algo may have potential, but spammers like you who push obscure agendas are killing it.

Your warning might have been useful when the price was high, but now market cap for mcn is about two btc.

If there is a sudden public rush into crypto the smallest cap coins will benefit the most.

It is a matter of holding viable low cap coins that will not go dead before the stampede. Mcn at least has a clever tweak to adjust supply to demand. If it gets past this dry spell it might do well.

Just a short update on the GUI wallet I'm working on. The proof of concept is working fine. I just have some tweaking to do with how the daemon and wallet initializes.

I'm also figuring out how I should package the release. If I do it as open source, anyone could take the code and actually just apply it to any other cryptonote, and as for now my focus is on MCN so I'm not sure if I should do that immediately. Any input would be appreciated.

MCN hashrate is climbing. I was really hoping that the crypto-note-universal pool software would be updated by now to support merge-mining, but they haven't figured it out yet. If anyone has any insights as to how minergate figured it out, please speak up!

sure do agree with that, and i'm excited people here are willing to create the infrastructure to move things on, my expertise are limited but i say good luck! once there are more tools it'll be an easier task to get some excitement happening at least!

You must be joking.

If it is not open source nobody with sense will download it, especially with a cn coin.

Thank you for your input. I'm almost positive it will be open source then. It will come pre-packaged with MCN and instructions on how to get it to work with other cryptonote currencies. I'm on vacation this week and will release everything next week.

If you release an open source wallet for mcn that can work with other cn currencies, and it is attractive to users and does not have too many bugs, it could be a game changer for cn.

The big flaw remains that most people, 90%+, want to be able to see their transactions and balances on the blockchain. So unless and until that option exists cn will be limited but a good wallet will at least make the coin useable for more people.

MCN price is way too low.

R.I.P.?

If anyone is interested in the source code for the wallet I was working on, please PM me. I've been sick with that respiratory disease that's been going around, so I may not be able to get back to working on it for another week or more, and any help would be appreciated. It's using a layer of PHP to communicate with the wallet and daemon, so if you have knowledge of PHP and some jQuery you should be good.

This thread does not get a lot of traffic. If you are looking for people to collaborate on a wallet that might be used with a few currencies there is probably a better section to post in. It seems like a pretty significant project in terms of developing these coins and there are probably plenty of capable interested people if you post where they read.

Dont mine on minergate they STEAL you coins https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=678232.1060

 
Is it profitable ?

Why don't you mine Monero if the coin is dead ?

It's still being sold on Poloniex.

Plus, you can mine both Monero and MonetaVerde at the same time. It has an unexpectedly high hashrate because of merge mining.

There are several updates needed for the simplewallet in order for me to create the UI. If anyone knows of any developers for cryptonote, point them here.

Hey guys,

Updated chainradar.com (http://chainradar.com/) with pools information!
 
https://i.imgur.com/UwY3IkV.jpg

Find a pool best suited for yourself and you currency. Provided pool info: Name, Other coins, Version, Fee, Minimal payment, Miners, Hashrate, Uptime, Last server down.

Please don't hesitate to contact me through the contact form on the website or via the forum. :)

dev you allready abondoned this coin ?

I think so.

If someone would take over this, this coin would be a great for targeting Latin american countries which have been mostly neglected by the alt-crypto scene.

This coin need a good face wash, new dev, a CPU-friendly algo, but the same objective, carry altcoins world to latin america :(

Coin FROZEN on Poloniex within last 24 hours. :o...

Edit...Poloniex rep in Trollbox says it's for maintenance. :)

Re-edit... "Temporarily Disabled."  :-\

Why? Do you have any info of MCN Frozen? :(

Poloniex Exchange says it's for Maintenance. I texted "GeezUp" in Trollbox.

Polyniex has resumed trading MCN and it initially lost some ground, but is currently up about 25%...

Do you have any node working?

https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/monetaverde/ says supply is 18.4m

http://chainradar.com/mcn/blocks says 7.9m

Market cap $7300, not $17000.

Is this coin still active?

lol....came to life yesterday and dead again

Do u want a portuguese translation?

Can i do this for u?

cya

Very large buy orders on Poloniex. This is curious.

Is there a plan here?

But old activity on the forums -- even the apparent Russian language ones.

Is there another active forum?

Is the DEV still around or is this thing flying on automatic pilot?

I smell something here...

Could be crap or could be money...

For fun I'm trying the software. As of yet, no peers connected.

Can't download blockchain...

Will remain "on the air" for a bit...

Still no peers connected...

Will wait to see if anyone forks.

It has any interesting idea, but I would defer to "Smooth" for a real opinion on this one.

Just "exited" from attempt to connect to peers. No luck.

Looks deader than the proverbial door-nail.

To: no-ice-please - I agree. The CryptoNote/Night/Lite etc., brands may be ripe for a sustained influx of funds.

If you look at the newest companies specializing in Bitcoin-type blockchain "tracing," it's only a matter of time until people wise up.

no-ice-please:

Am aware of pools for other coins of this nature.

Certainly audience (user) base is needed to keep interest.

Not sure what is meant by "properly estimated."

Don't think it's necessary to trace any coin. Just that payment was made and accepted.

Receipts can be had, if one used the Payment ID., etc., in Monero (XMR), for example.

One idea behind CryptoNote (etc.) in my estimation, is to break the "history" of transactions, not necessarily to hide the purchase altogether. But like cash, hidden and private transactions are possible.

It is the price we pay for freedom of transactions, IMO.

 

no-ice-please:

Great points. And there are so many as they relate to MCN and altcoins in general.

One glaring one is the steady centralization of the public blockchains. Namely Bitcoin.

Gavin Andresen advised that (before he was locked out of the DEV Core Team at Bitcoin) BTC was a "hairball" and when tinkered with things went haywire. There is no manual. (Is there?)

Even if that Aussie is Satoshi, it does not necessarily help.

And yes, there are a lot of people who feel that monetary transactions should be transparent at least it certain ways.

And it's not so simple to make Bitcoin private. Maybe a fork of it. Maybe if everyone agreed how to do it. But even the highly capable Dev's don't even agree how that should work or how Bitcoin works. Or if the Chinese actually "run" it now. A lot of FUD. This hurts trust and adoption.

If one used the popularity angle, one could say that the U.S. Dollar was the most popular currency in the world for many a year. But will it maintain it's dominance, given the that the U.S. is probably broke - worse than Greece -- even if we do have that alleged "shadow gold standard?" Until the dollar goes "poof."

Will the gold backed currencies of less free countries (Russia and China) dominate? I doubt it. Lack of trust.

Will gold or Bitgold compete with the dollar? Sure. Will Bitgold (GoldMoney) replace the dollar. Doubtful.

But gold is the public blockchain, so to speak, when you store it at Bitgold or at the bank.

Gold is more private, but not necessarily safe, when you store it at home. You trust your gold at home, however. You're in control. It's your private blockchain, without the blockchain.

But I agree with you on certain levels. Namely, that cn is an opaque beast and I do want to be able to see my transaction at it flows through the net, just like BTC. That, I think is important on the net. To see the transparency in that manner. Not that anyone else needs to see it, but the more witnesses, the better validation. Kind of a Catch-22.

I don't want to send my digital gold over the net, watch it disappear -- be mixed -- unless I can trust the process. So far I've lost no CN coins, but a slew of BTC or the public blockchain coins and not necessarily at the various exchanges. I find this educational for noobs, like myself.

In the end, it's the dog's choice. It's which one he eats. So far he likes BTC, ETH and lately he's been munching on ETC. Sometimes he nibbles on other snacks. It's not till his master beats him, that he'll sneak into the woods and eat the wild game. Wild game can be quite healthy, if not full of worms and/or cooked well.

@rickgejr Minergate has quite a few CN blockchain explorers.  8)

Here's a link to the MCN One : https://minergate.com/blockchain/mcn/blocks (https://minergate.com/blockchain/mcn/blocks)

@Alifton

I was curious about this coin, for a bit; however, after seeing that the DEV appears absent and the vague references to "deflation" with an "infinite" coin emission, I sought greener pastures.

I don't see a Whitepaper either.

Perhaps a Ludwig von Mises versed economics professor and a good DEV, can join forces and rejuvenate this coin.

I actually have high hopes for "AEON" and "Monero."

It's nice to know that there are just 11mln coins instead of 18 as shown on coinmarketcap  ;D

does anyone know  a working full node?

Same question: anyone has nodes?

Dead currency

Does anyone ever mine this anymore????- I have an account on a pool to mine at minergate, but not sure if it is worth it to... gosh...ppl saying it is dead...

Yes mate it is dead coin

Confession: Yes, I worked on this coin back in the day. Yes, I was given basically everything from the original dev including login accounts etc. Yes, I did actually make a very new technological advancement in a coin wallet for Cryponote. However, a few crappy things happened to me during that time. I became VERY SICK and had to take a long time off from the world completely.

During that time I actually lost all of my development progress from a stolen computer and also unfortunately my nearly 3 million MCN coins. So I can tell you now that at least 3 million coins are no longer in circulation. I have no idea how minergate and such are actually still mining this coin.

Good luck to everyone that continues with this old, dead, seriously off-chain, coin.

Thanks!

Hey, Developers, please send me PM

Hi!

I have started a pool to mine Moneta Verde. Please, join me. Let's make the network stronger together

https://minercountry.com​​​​​​​

And let's keep this coin alive!
As you may know there are ongoing efforts to update the code and get this coin on exchanges again ( https://forum.getmonetaverde.org/ )

New GUI Wallet for MCN available: https://forum.getmonetaverde.org/topic/184-new-gui-wallet-for-monetaverde/