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Title: DISCOUNT AMAZON CODES FOR SALE 20% DISCOUNT, not!
Post by: newdude on March 30, 2012, 04:17:17 PM
I will be back in 30 days on April 29th, 2012 to sell more Amazon Codes for 20% discount.
Since there is 1 member that claims I am a scam and I am not, we will find out.
So if I am indeed a scammer, then it will be revealed by then.
I will continue to accumulate my Amazon codes.
Until then, find me 1 person who can say I have defrauded them.

See you guys on April 29!th.
Get ready, because I will have more than ever on that date.


Title: Re: DISCOUNT AMAZON CODES FOR SALE 20% DISCOUNT, not!
Post by: occulta on March 30, 2012, 04:27:31 PM
loool

its not only me, there are tons of people who agree. you most likely have more than 1 alias on here anyway.

see you

mods remove this thread?


Title: Re: DISCOUNT AMAZON CODES FOR SALE 20% DISCOUNT, not!
Post by: newdude on March 30, 2012, 04:34:07 PM
loool

its not only me, there are tons of people who agree. you most likely have more than 1 alias on here anyway.

see you

mods remove this thread?
You still are a bitch.
So lets see if i am a scammer come April 29th.
Jealous bitch.


Title: Re: DISCOUNT AMAZON CODES FOR SALE 20% DISCOUNT, not!
Post by: occulta on March 30, 2012, 04:36:25 PM
i am a jealous bitch because i spotted a scammer, i admit it.


Title: Re: DISCOUNT AMAZON CODES FOR SALE 20% DISCOUNT, not!
Post by: newdude on March 30, 2012, 04:40:12 PM
loool

its not only me, there are tons of people who agree. you most likely have more than 1 alias on here anyway.

see you

mods remove this thread?

I will come back with $20,000 worth of codes on April 29th. I hope you make good sales in the meantime. Good luck!


Title: Re: DISCOUNT AMAZON CODES FOR SALE 20% DISCOUNT, not!
Post by: likuidxd on March 30, 2012, 04:43:00 PM
SUB.

I await your return. If this isn't a scam, Shut Up And Take My Money!


Title: Re: DISCOUNT AMAZON CODES FOR SALE 20% DISCOUNT, not!
Post by: occulta on March 30, 2012, 04:51:16 PM
loool

its not only me, there are tons of people who agree. you most likely have more than 1 alias on here anyway.

see you

mods remove this thread?

I will come back with $20,000 worth of codes on April 29th. I hope you make good sales in the meantime. Good luck!

stop talking like we compete, ive been earning from amazon legitimately for many many years, you're a carder.

come back with your $20k of carded certificates, im sure you will sell them, people are ignorant sometimes.


Title: Re: DISCOUNT AMAZON CODES FOR SALE 20% DISCOUNT, not!
Post by: newdude on March 30, 2012, 07:52:29 PM
SUB.

I await your return. If this isn't a scam, Shut Up And Take My Money!
I will sell you all you want after 30 days. This will prove I am not a scammer.


Title: Re: DISCOUNT AMAZON CODES FOR SALE 20% DISCOUNT, not!
Post by: newdude on March 30, 2012, 07:53:12 PM
SUB.

I await your return. If this isn't a scam, Shut Up And Take My Money!
I know right!!!!


Title: Re: DISCOUNT AMAZON CODES FOR SALE 20% DISCOUNT, not!
Post by: occulta on March 30, 2012, 07:57:09 PM
SUB.

I await your return. If this isn't a scam, Shut Up And Take My Money!
I will sell you all you want after 30 days. This will prove I am not a scammer.

you can leave now, keep to your promise and lets get this board back to normal


Title: Re: DISCOUNT AMAZON CODES FOR SALE 20% DISCOUNT, not!
Post by: haploid23 on April 04, 2012, 09:07:18 AM
Probable scammer. I sent this guy a $1000 moneypak a week ago, lots of empty promises and stalling, still do not have codes yet. If I don't get codes or a refund by the time I wake up in the morning, I will post FULL details on the drama I had with him.

newdude, if you actually pull through with the refund or amazon codes you owe me, I will delete this post.


Title: Re: DISCOUNT AMAZON CODES FOR SALE 20% DISCOUNT, not!
Post by: b4b33 on April 04, 2012, 10:37:00 AM
stop talking like we compete, ive been earning from amazon legitimately for many many years, you're a carder.

come back with your $20k of carded certificates, im sure you will sell them, people are ignorant sometimes.

I am unfamiliar with the term "carder", or "carded certificate".  Could someone please explain what these are?


Title: Re: DISCOUNT AMAZON CODES FOR SALE 20% DISCOUNT, not!
Post by: occulta on April 04, 2012, 12:02:15 PM
Probable scammer. I sent this guy a $1000 moneypak a week ago, lots of empty promises and stalling, still do not have codes yet. If I don't get codes or a refund by the time I wake up in the morning, I will post FULL details on the drama I had with him.

newdude, if you actually pull through with the refund or amazon codes you owe me, I will delete this post.

You dealt with me many times on $2k+ transactions, like everyone else i have dealt with, flawless transactions.

Yet, again like everyone else your eyes probably lit up with this guys offers. Even if he does 'pull through' ill bet you 50BTC his GCs are carded.

To the guy asking what 'carded' means, this means someone is fraudulently using somebody elses credit card, to purchase goods.

Do not assume because you have your GCs that 180days down the line amazon put your accounts in negative balance, and ask for the money back!


Title: Re: DISCOUNT AMAZON CODES FOR SALE 20% DISCOUNT, not!
Post by: John (John K.) on April 04, 2012, 12:35:24 PM
Probable scammer. I sent this guy a $1000 moneypak a week ago, lots of empty promises and stalling, still do not have codes yet. If I don't get codes or a refund by the time I wake up in the morning, I will post FULL details on the drama I had with him.

newdude, if you actually pull through with the refund or amazon codes you owe me, I will delete this post.
Bring in the fire! * watching with popcorns*


Title: Re: DISCOUNT AMAZON CODES FOR SALE 20% DISCOUNT, not!
Post by: rjk on April 04, 2012, 12:37:52 PM
stop talking like we compete, ive been earning from amazon legitimately for many many years, you're a carder.

come back with your $20k of carded certificates, im sure you will sell them, people are ignorant sometimes.

I am unfamiliar with the term "carder", or "carded certificate".  Could someone please explain what these are?
This means that they were purchased with a stolen credit card.


Title: Re: DISCOUNT AMAZON CODES FOR SALE 20% DISCOUNT, not!
Post by: BTC guy on April 04, 2012, 04:56:12 PM
IDC i want cheap amazon gift codes. come back soon newdude i will buy from you.     ;D


Title: Re: DISCOUNT AMAZON CODES FOR SALE 20% DISCOUNT, not!
Post by: Matthew N. Wright on April 04, 2012, 05:10:03 PM
Seriously? You fucking idiots are still doing business with newbies on the forum?

Ugh.


Title: Re: DISCOUNT AMAZON CODES FOR SALE 20% DISCOUNT, not!
Post by: BTC guy on April 04, 2012, 05:11:22 PM
i sure will if he goes first. i love his rates.


Title: Re: DISCOUNT AMAZON CODES FOR SALE 20% DISCOUNT, not!
Post by: BTC guy on April 04, 2012, 05:16:17 PM
i would love to buy ipads and amazon gift codes in bulk too. who wouldnt?


Title: Re: DISCOUNT AMAZON CODES FOR SALE 20% DISCOUNT, not!
Post by: b4b33 on April 04, 2012, 07:41:04 PM
i would love to buy ipads and amazon gift codes in bulk too. who wouldnt?

Ugh, I just got a queasy feeling in my gut.  And in reply to BTC Guy, if said items were paid for with ill-gotten gains, that is most definitely not cool.  I've been the victim of identity theft, and wouldn't want that to happen again.

Well, I just checked my Amazon account and gift card balance, and everything seems to be ok, for now.  From my own experience, if someone is charging hundreds and thousands on new purchases, the cardholder would get phone calls and emails about a suspicious pending transaction, would they not?


Title: Re: DISCOUNT AMAZON CODES FOR SALE 20% DISCOUNT, not!
Post by: ataranlen on April 04, 2012, 07:43:35 PM
Ugh, I just got a queasy feeling in my gut.  And in reply to BTC Guy, if said items were paid for with ill-gotten gains, that is most definitely not cool.  I've been the victim of identity theft, and wouldn't want that to happen again.

Well, I just checked my Amazon account and gift card balance, and everything seems to be ok, for now.  From my own experience, if someone is charging hundreds and thousands on new purchases, the cardholder would get phone calls and emails about a suspicious pending transaction, would they not?

Ideally, the Bank or Company would stop those transactions until it clears them with the customer. But sadly, alot of them won't even call.


Title: Re: DISCOUNT AMAZON CODES FOR SALE 20% DISCOUNT, not!
Post by: BTC guy on April 04, 2012, 08:13:46 PM
I dont encourage theft. Nor do i jump to conclusions. If the codes work thats all i care about. How is gets them is none of my business. There could be 100 different explanations to how he acquires them. Until somebody here confirms he is scam i will buy his codes.


Title: Re: DISCOUNT AMAZON CODES FOR SALE 20% DISCOUNT, not!
Post by: flip on April 04, 2012, 10:16:47 PM
Ugh, I just got a queasy feeling in my gut. 

Same here.


Title: Re: DISCOUNT AMAZON CODES FOR SALE 20% DISCOUNT, not!
Post by: newdude on April 05, 2012, 12:04:40 AM
I dont encourage theft. Nor do i jump to conclusions. If the codes work thats all i care about. How is gets them is none of my business. There could be 100 different explanations to how he acquires them. Until somebody here confirms he is scam i will buy his codes.
My point exactly.
Dont worry, as of now, I wont sell anymore e-codes here, PERIOD.
I havent scammed anyone.


Title: Re: DISCOUNT AMAZON CODES FOR SALE 20% DISCOUNT, not!
Post by: newdude on April 05, 2012, 12:07:46 AM
i would love to buy ipads and amazon gift codes in bulk too. who wouldnt?

Ugh, I just got a queasy feeling in my gut.  And in reply to BTC Guy, if said items were paid for with ill-gotten gains, that is most definitely not cool.  I've been the victim of identity theft, and wouldn't want that to happen again.

Well, I just checked my Amazon account and gift card balance, and everything seems to be ok, for now.  From my own experience, if someone is charging hundreds and thousands on new purchases, the cardholder would get phone calls and emails about a suspicious pending transaction, would they not?
How much of codes you purchases from me? $2,000 to $3000 or so. And has your account been frozen? Nope. I even sold to you for 25% discount!
So how have I scammed you?
And my thing is, you are correct. If I did get these codes from a stolen credit card, that shit would be reversed with the greatest of speed.
You guys crack me up.
But thats ok.


Title: Re: DISCOUNT AMAZON CODES FOR SALE 20% DISCOUNT, not!
Post by: Keninishna on April 05, 2012, 12:13:21 AM
I dont encourage theft. Nor do i jump to conclusions. If the codes work thats all i care about. How is gets them is none of my business. There could be 100 different explanations to how he acquires them. Until somebody here confirms he is scam i will buy his codes.
My point exactly.
Dont worry, as of now, I wont sell anymore e-codes here, PERIOD.
I havent scammed anyone.


awww I wanted to buy some codes too!!! too bad the haters ruined it.  :-X


Title: Re: DISCOUNT AMAZON CODES FOR SALE 20% DISCOUNT, not!
Post by: newdude on April 05, 2012, 12:38:31 AM
i would love to buy ipads and amazon gift codes in bulk too. who wouldnt?
MY POINT EXACTLY!!!!!!


Title: Re: DISCOUNT AMAZON CODES FOR SALE 20% DISCOUNT, not!
Post by: newdude on April 05, 2012, 12:39:54 AM
I dont encourage theft. Nor do i jump to conclusions. If the codes work thats all i care about. How is gets them is none of my business. There could be 100 different explanations to how he acquires them. Until somebody here confirms he is scam i will buy his codes.
MY POINT EXACTLY!!! They just dont get it.
If that shit was bought with stolen credit card, Amazon would shut that shit down with blinding speed.


Title: Re: DISCOUNT AMAZON CODES FOR SALE 20% DISCOUNT, not!
Post by: newdude on April 05, 2012, 12:46:40 AM
Probable scammer. I sent this guy a $1000 moneypak a week ago, lots of empty promises and stalling, still do not have codes yet. If I don't get codes or a refund by the time I wake up in the morning, I will post FULL details on the drama I had with him.

newdude, if you actually pull through with the refund or amazon codes you owe me, I will delete this post.
You impatient ass, tell the truth.

Read this. Am I really the scammer he claims I am?


I just got home, I picked up a moneypak and loaded it while on my way back. Whenever you're ready for the number, I can give it to you right now. Giving you the moneypak number now, or when you get more amazon codes, doesn't matter to me, I trust you enough. What BTC wallet address you want me to send the remaining BTC to? Same one as last time?
 
BTC rate is currently $4.80/BTC, so I send you 6.51 BTC, along with the $1000 moneypak for the next $1000 GC you get.
Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2012 13:54:03 -0700
From: clayblueva9@yahoo.com
Subject: Re: Amazon
To: clarkdale661@hotmail.com

1. Take your time in paying me. No rush. If you cant do it tonight, just do it tomorrow when you wake up. I am in no hurry to collect ANY money from YOU. You got it like that.
2. Send the bitcoin or Mtgox whnever you can. Im not in a hurry.
3. I get the codes how they send them to me. So if its $500 or $100, I dont know until I get them.
4, If I dont reply back fast, its cause I am out on the town. I will hit you back when I come back online.
5. I think I just sent you the codes.

1. You can get the MoneyPak tonight or tomororow. Whenever you can. I wont hound you over $232.
2. Sorry about my incorrect calculations.
3. Whatever amount over $232, I will put it on your line of credit.
4. Here are the (10), $100 codes.

VRXM-8NRE8N-2VYE
SV7P-XAPUHC-4WNF
8M4R-9XWTDM-MPRN
4ZG2-PJJ6ZF-8AZE
H7AS-ZR3FYF-4EYV

9SCH-QPXD3Y-E92Q
DWDN-H83DC3-N9M2
L4K7-S3NZXM-JLXT
98RA-A4RES8-HUG5
AD4S-6N6BRF-Y2GQ
From: Chee Pham <clarkdale661@hotmail.com>
To: clayblueva9@yahoo.com
Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2012 1:43 PM
Subject: RE: Amazon

Yeah I'm ready for the first $1000 codes.
 
I will go out to get another $1000 moneypak and will send an additional $31.25 in BTC when I get back, that should cover the $231 I owe and the next $1000 GC. Does that sound ok? I'll send you the code when I get back from work in a couple hours. Are you able to request $500 GC amounts instead of the $100 GC? If not, I don't really mind. I'll contact you in a few hours again.
 
Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2012 13:33:54 -0700
From: clayblueva9@yahoo.com
Subject: Re: Amazon
To: clarkdale661@hotmail.com

Yes, I made a mistake. Just the remainder to send for $232 for the $1000 i send to you now..
If you want to get another Moneypak for $1000, then you can. I will put the rememainder on credit marker.
Sorry about that.
You can pay the $31.25 in bitcoins or mtgox, whenever you want.
When you are ready for the (10) $100 codes, I will send them to you. 
Tell me when and I will instantly email you back the codes.
I am standby waiting your command.



From: Chee Pham <clarkdale661@hotmail.com>
To: clayblueva9@yahoo.com
Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2012 11:58 AM
Subject: RE: Amazon

Sorry for the slow reply, I just woke up and about to head off to work right now. So I have a $568.75 "credit" with you, and if I did my math correctly, I still owe $231.25 (for $800 total) for the $1000 GC codes, right? Would you just like me to get a $1000 money pack so that when you get the rest of your GC, you can just give me the other $1000 also?
 
So please verify if this is correct and I will go out to buy another moneypack right now: $2000 GC with 20% discount means I pay $1600. If I get another $1000 moneypack with the $568.75 credit, then that's $1568.57, and I can pay the remaining $31.25 with bitcoins or mtgoxUSD. I'll just give you the moneypak first, and when you get giftcards you're expecting today, you can give it to me later.
 
For these large amounts, do you have several $500 codes instead of many $100 codes? Either one is fine, but it would be nice to have fewer large codes than a bunch of smaller ones. Thanks.
 
Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2012 06:09:20 -0700
From: clayblueva9@yahoo.com
Subject: Re: Amazon
To: clarkdale661@hotmail.com

$1000 in cards is what I have this moment.
20% discount. Thats the regular rate. The 25% was to clear inventory.
So the sale price for you today on this deal is: $800
You saved $200.
You have a $568.75 cash marker with me.
So I will give you $1000 in cards right NOW.
So you can get another MoneyPak today for $431. Thanks.
You have my respect. If you can trust me, I can trust you.
I will hold the other $1000 as soon as I get it.
I am expecting about $5000 today or so.
I will send you the (10) $100 Amazon codes to your email as soon as you reply back
  to this email. If I dont respond back quickly, its because I am out, with my kids, or asleep.










From: Chee Pham <clarkdale661@hotmail.com>
To: clayblueva9@yahoo.com
Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2012 6:12 PM
Subject: RE: Amazon

I see. Thanks for the info. I was a little worried at first right when I gave you the moneypak number, because that's $1000 that you could have just ran with. You have my respect/trust also, so I have don't have a problem leaving the $568 "credit" with you until you get more.
 
Cheers
 
Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2012 18:04:08 -0700
From: clayblueva9@yahoo.com
Subject: Re: Amazon
To: clarkdale661@hotmail.com

Oh, and in case you were wondering how I get these codes, this is how:
So Iphones, Ipad, Android phones, or whatever. I buy these items from people. I work at a pawnshop. I pay cash.
So for a used ipad, I only pay cash for them.
Then, I sell the Ipads to a company that pays me in Amazon and Visa giftcards.
I then sell the giftcards.
All legitimate.
http://www.gazelle.com/
http://glyde.com/
http://www.amazon.com/Electronics-Trade-In/b?ie=UTF8&node=2226766011
Plus, I buy the cards from poker players. Players trade their points for giftcards, then sell them. That is what I sell.
I sold $8,000 worth of Amazon codes today alone.
Now you know how I get them. Free money. Everyone wins!

$575 total in cards you have purchased today..
25% discount.
So the sale price to you for today only on this deal is: $431.25
You saved $143.75
You have a $568.75 cash line of credit marker with me now.
I will reserve $2000 for you as soon as I get it. Its yours. You have earned my respect.
I will send you an email to notify you the moment I get them.
You can give me a cellphone number and I can text you also when I get them,
Codes are below. All are $25 each.

SLVG-5WT835-JZTC
KTF5-CRXA6A-WUA5
GLPB-F3HJSX-G3NY
-----
X5C5-8RR4FC-FDMK
LL49-R4FRCR-SHSJ
YHXX-BJQ8SL-UZYU
VJJP-KXYVNK-7QM5
-----
29PQ-NPHUZ7-UU5R
WKNX-GEAC8U-W8KW
7N8K-AZ9ZXC-H339
YDYL-HWNYGV-Z3WR
----
3K7Q-UJKRLL-PK2V
NKWY-6ZT6RT-76EY
Q5M7-H39BZC-EMKJ
F4QE-B7TB45-6Z4L
----
W5VF-62JHW9-ZBJF
ZBRM-MADX65-XU39
EGTK-ARPMUM-FPFE
5VW8-GQR53S-9UBJ
----
67L7-X8XDTL-CX2W
E43Q-ECEA4S-JVW2
XL8U-GL8PAL-Y6GM
4SCA-YAZNYU-MR94

From: Chee Pham <clarkdale661@hotmail.com>
To: clayblueva9@yahoo.com
Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2012 5:40 PM
Subject: RE: Amazon

Ok here is the code: 1011 - 5793 - 4188 - 86
 
Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2012 17:35:50 -0700
From: clayblueva9@yahoo.com
Subject: Re: Amazon
To: clarkdale661@hotmail.com

I am ready

From: Chee Pham <clarkdale661@hotmail.com>
To: clayblueva9@yahoo.com
Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2012 5:25 PM
Subject: RE: Amazon

Ok I'm back, are you ready for the transaction?
 
Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2012 16:12:16 -0700
From: clayblueva9@yahoo.com
Subject: Re: Amazon
To: clarkdale661@hotmail.com

So I will place a hold on the rest of the cards and issue you a credit on the other cards i get. So get a MP for $1000 and its a deal. I will hold them for 2 hours until you get back . I will stay on the computer until you get back. You can leave now. Thanks.
With the balamce from the leftover MoneyPak, you have first dibbs on the next cards I get. I will have some either tonight or tomorrow or Friday.



From: Chee Pham <clarkdale661@hotmail.com>
To: clayblueva9@yahoo.com
Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2012 4:08 PM
Subject: RE: Amazon

Does my location matter for anything? I'm in Oceanside, CA. Can I leave to go buy it right now?
 
Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2012 16:02:50 -0700
From: clayblueva9@yahoo.com
Subject: Re: Amazon
To: clarkdale661@hotmail.com

I can do that.
Where are you located? City and state.


From: Chee Pham <clarkdale661@hotmail.com>
To: clayblueva9@yahoo.com
Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2012 4:01 PM
Subject: RE: Amazon

Hey can you lock in a number? Because after I load cash into it, I can't take it out. So by the time I put cash into it and you sell more to other people, then I've overpaid. Or, do you want me to load $1000 cash into it right now and use the extra "credit" towards the $2000 you will reserve for me? Please let me know, the next email I get from you and I'll be heading out to buy one of these.
 
Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2012 15:22:38 -0700
From: clayblueva9@yahoo.com
Subject: Re: Amazon
To: clarkdale661@hotmail.com

When you give me the code, I load the code into my account. Then, I can use that card at atm or pont of sale. Easy.
Yes, I can accept MoneyPak for future transactions. Now, the future, anytime you want.
I only have 23 left.

From: Chee Pham <clarkdale661@hotmail.com>
To: clayblueva9@yahoo.com
Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2012 2:17 PM
Subject: RE: Amazon

Nevermind, I figured it out I think. So basically I just load money into the card, and give you the number of the card, right? So then how are you going to use that number to withdraw the amount out of the card?
 
If you can accept moneypak payements for future transactions as well, then I can go buy a moneypak right now.
 
From: clarkdale661@hotmail.com
To: clayblueva9@yahoo.com
Subject: RE: Amazon
Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2012 14:07:23 -0700

So if I go to a store to buy a moneypak and load it, how would I pay you after that?
 
Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2012 12:04:25 -0700
From: clayblueva9@yahoo.com
Subject: Re: Amazon
To: clarkdale661@hotmail.com

I can accept moneypak if you can get one of those.
If you are in the USA, you can get moneypak anywhere,


From: Chee Pham <clarkdale661@hotmail.com>
To: clayblueva9@yahoo.com
Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2012 12:00 PM
Subject: RE: Amazon

I'm interested, but I have no more money in mtgox, and I know you won't take credits. I've been too busy to look into LR or bitinstant, but I'll look at it right now to see if I can transfer money faster.
 
Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2012 07:47:02 -0700
From: clayblueva9@yahoo.com
Subject: Re: Amazon
To: clarkdale661@hotmail.com

Hey,
I just sold all (10) of my brand new $500 cards ($5000) worth.
I will have some more on Thursday, March 29th  or Friday March 30th of this week.
I have (26), $25 cards remaining. I can sell them to you for 25% off if you buy them TODAY only.
So for a $25 card, I will charge you $18.75 each if you take them all.
$18.75*26=$487.50 for all 26 of them, $650 worth.
If you buy these, I will reserve $2,000 of the new cards fro you.
Bitcoin, Mtgox or Liberty Reserve for payment.


From: Chee Pham <clarkdale661@hotmail.com>
To: clayblueva9@yahoo.com
Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2012 3:59 PM
Subject: RE: Amazon

Do you mean Wednesday tomorrow? Or next Wednesday? Anyways, please reserve $2000 for me.
 
Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2012 14:11:36 -0700
From: clayblueva9@yahoo.com
Subject: Re: Amazon
To: clarkdale661@hotmail.com

I will have more by Wednesday. How many do you want? Tell me and I will reserve some for you.





From: Chee Pham <clarkdale661@hotmail.com>
To: clayblueva9@yahoo.com
Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2012 1:52 PM
Subject: RE: Amazon

Ok, I'll have a few thousand in my account ready next time. I just noticed you sold out of the larger amounts. When do you think you'll get more?
 
Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2012 13:49:19 -0700
From: clayblueva9@yahoo.com
Subject: Re: Amazon
To: clarkdale661@hotmail.com

I dont offer credit.
If you need mtgox, use Bitinstant or Aurumexchange.


From: Chee Pham <clarkdale661@hotmail.com>
To: clayblueva9@yahoo.com
Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2012 1:29 PM
Subject: RE: Amazon

That's all I have in mtgox, and that's nearly the rest of my BTC. I only have 7BTC left. Can I buy $200 GC amount that you offered earlier and I pay you back later?
 
Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2012 13:05:52 -0700
From: clayblueva9@yahoo.com
Subject: Re: Amazon
To: clarkdale661@hotmail.com

$500
A973-EMTZGC-PPUG

$25
BTN9-CFD2LA-ZNV2

Anything else you need? I can provide.


From: Chee Pham <clarkdale661@hotmail.com>
To: clayblueva9@yahoo.com
Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2012 1:00 PM
Subject: RE: Amazon

$154 in mtgoxUSD: MTGOX-USD-S6PSE-LEF6U-GJH75-ADEF8

And I just sent 56.83 BTC to you wallet, so total payment added together is $420.

Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2012 12:43:07 -0700
From: clayblueva9@yahoo.com
Subject: Re: Amazon
To: clarkdale661@hotmail.com

Ok. $500 card will cost you $400.
A $25 card will cost you $20.
My payment address is:    13bzHegvmqADdUjUBBsQZ6b65QLLV98Xs9
$4.68 is the rate.
I will send you the codes the instant i get the first notification.


From: Chee Pham <clarkdale661@hotmail.com>
To: clayblueva9@yahoo.com
Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2012 12:35 PM
Subject: RE: Amazon

Ok I'll buy the $500 and a $25 code with $154 in mtgox, and I'll send the rest in bitcoins. That's all I have until I get more in mtgox. What's your wallet address?
 
Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2012 12:26:57 -0700
From: clayblueva9@yahoo.com
Subject: Re: Amazon
To: clarkdale661@hotmail.com

I dont do credit.
I can give you the $200 in codes now. When you get some more money, you can get the rest.
I can give you $200 in codes for the $154 and you owe me $6 after that.
I am ready when you are ready.



From: Chee Pham <clarkdale661@hotmail.com>
To: clayblueva9@yahoo.com
Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2012 12:02 AM
Subject: RE: Amazon

Thanks for the tip. I'll buy more right now if you're ready for the transaction. Can I buy the $500 amount? All I have left in my mtgox is $154, which is only good for about $192.50 worth of amazon gift card. You offered that you can send the GC first to up to $200 amount for people you've already dealt with, so would it be ok if you sent me this $500 code amount after I give you a deposit of $154 via mtgoxUSD code? That means I'll still owe you $264. Do you trust me enough for this? Here is the thread I've been selling custom made cables, I've had alots of buyers and shipped out between 50-100 custom soldered cables. I'll try to get money in through bitinstant or aurumexchange, but I have no idea now they work and need to read about it first. I've only used dwolla.
 
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=38725.0
 
Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2012 21:54:11 -0700
From: clayblueva9@yahoo.com
Subject: Re: Amazon
To: clarkdale661@hotmail.com

The fasstet and easiest way to get Mtgox funds into your account is through cash deposit through Bitinstant or Aurumexchange.. When you do it that way, you have your funds credited within 15-30 minutes. I use it everyday of the week.
If you have bitcoins or Liberty Reserve, I accept it also.
Let me know how many more you want. I can supply.


From: Chee Pham <clarkdale661@hotmail.com>
To: clayblueva9@yahoo.com
Sent: Monday, March 26, 2012 9:47 PM
Subject: RE: Amazon

Actually I'll get one $100 until I can get more money deposit in my mtgox account. Here is a $80 code for one more $100 GC: MTGOX-USD-ENJZX-S9PGB-ZZYKS-37219
 
Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2012 21:33:42 -0700
From: clayblueva9@yahoo.com
Subject: Re: Amazon
To: clarkdale661@hotmail.com

P85R-ZFEH9W-MZNH

6UE5-D2D33P-P68F


Title: Re: DISCOUNT AMAZON CODES FOR SALE 20% DISCOUNT, not!
Post by: newdude on April 05, 2012, 12:54:25 AM
Yes, I owe him $600. Thats all I owe him.


Title: Re: DISCOUNT AMAZON CODES FOR SALE 20% DISCOUNT, not!
Post by: ataranlen on April 05, 2012, 12:54:48 AM
Thats quite a wall of text you got there! Sounds like someone has some explaining to do!  ::)


Title: Re: DISCOUNT AMAZON CODES FOR SALE 20% DISCOUNT, not!
Post by: newdude on April 05, 2012, 01:00:38 AM
Thats quite a wall of text you got there! Sounds like someone has some explaining to do!  ::)
So read all of it. If I really were a scammer, I could have took him to the cleaners.
Yes, I owe him $600. Thats it.
Yes, I work 12 hours a day also. Everyday.
His lying, impatient ass can go buy his codes from someone else.
I can post more if I need to.


Title: Re: DISCOUNT AMAZON CODES FOR SALE 20% DISCOUNT, not!
Post by: haploid23 on April 05, 2012, 01:02:34 AM
Yes, I owe him $600. Thats all I owe him.
Good, let's make this public now, no more private emails. So if you owe me still, where is my refund or the codes? It's been a week. And how about you post everything so people can see how shady you really are. Make it organized please, no one is going to follow that string of emails. Quote just ONE time that I needed to lie about anything? You on the other hand, lied to me a dozen times and been stalling for a week now.


Title: Re: DISCOUNT AMAZON CODES FOR SALE 20% DISCOUNT, not!
Post by: BTC guy on April 05, 2012, 01:09:06 AM
Newdude are you admitting you owe haploid23? Im assuming he paid for a code and didnt get it?


Title: Re: DISCOUNT AMAZON CODES FOR SALE 20% DISCOUNT, not!
Post by: newdude on April 05, 2012, 01:09:50 AM
Yes, I owe him $600. Thats all I owe him.
Good, let's make this public now, no more private emails. So if you owe me still, where is my refund or the codes? It's been a week. And how about you post everything so people can see how shady you really are. Make it organized please, no one is going to follow that string of emails.
Shady? Ive replied to your emails within 5 minutes of you emailing, all but 2 times.
Yes I owe you $600. Thats all that should matter.
But dont come on here talking shit like I am hiding from you or not responding to you. Cause its bullshit. You know that its bullshit.
I have a job, a family, 4 kids, and I go to church 2 times a week. So you can kiss the roundest part of my ass for all I could care.
I will send your funds to you by Mtgox code as soon as I can get to the bank and use Bitinstant or Aurum to get it.
Will it be today? Will it be tomorrow? Will I leave my job at the pawnshop for 1 hour and miss out on more opportunity to buy more electronics to trade for more and more Amazon codes to accommodate your impatient ass? Hell no.


Title: Re: DISCOUNT AMAZON CODES FOR SALE 20% DISCOUNT, not!
Post by: newdude on April 05, 2012, 01:10:25 AM
Newdude are you admitting you owe haploid23? Im assuming he paid for a code and didnt get it?
Read the whole email.


Title: Re: DISCOUNT AMAZON CODES FOR SALE 20% DISCOUNT, not!
Post by: BTC guy on April 05, 2012, 01:13:50 AM
I really dont care enough to read all that shit. You answered my question with your last post. If your not scam just ignore the people talking shit and do what you do. If you deliver i dont care what people say i will buy from you and im sure others will too.


Title: Re: DISCOUNT AMAZON CODES FOR SALE 20% DISCOUNT, not!
Post by: newdude on April 05, 2012, 01:18:30 AM
I really dont care enough to read all that shit. You answered my question with your last post. If your not scam just ignore the people talking shit and do what you do. If you deliver i dont care what people say i will buy from you and im sure others will too.
Exactly.
But I am not selling anything else on here anyway.
Not now, not ever.
Everything I get is already sold the second I get it.
He just doesnt know how good he had it and would have had it. If he only had a clue.
So it doesnt matter, does it?
If I were indeed a scammer, I could have took his ass for $4,000 easy.
So when I can get away from my job and family, I will send his ass his $600.


Title: Re: DISCOUNT AMAZON CODES FOR SALE 20% DISCOUNT, not!
Post by: BTC guy on April 05, 2012, 01:22:56 AM
Dont give up there is good money to be made here. Just take care of the guy you owe and carry on.


Title: Re: DISCOUNT AMAZON CODES FOR SALE 20% DISCOUNT, not!
Post by: newdude on April 05, 2012, 01:39:24 AM
Dont give up there is good money to be made here. Just take care of the guy you owe and carry on.
I agree man. But this shit is too much! LOL.
I have been going non-stop at my job since 8am.
Could I give him Amazon codes right now this very second for 20-25% right now this very second and end this bullshit with him? Yes I can.
Will I? NOPE.
He can go buy his codes from somewhere else. Go and try to get 20% everyday from Occulta for chump change. He aint having that shit.
I am not going to give him the satisfaction of enjoying $150 extra. Fuck that. And yes, I am a Christian.
If this makes me shady, then call me shady.
I never lied to him or scammed him of ANYTHING.
And he said I owed him $1000, when I actually owe him $568.75. He needs to set the facts straight.
And anyone that I sold codes to, if they went first, they got their codes inside of 5 minutes.
If I went first, I didnt hound them over payment. I am way too busy to even care.



Title: Re: DISCOUNT AMAZON CODES FOR SALE 20% DISCOUNT, not!
Post by: b4b33 on April 05, 2012, 01:40:08 AM
You dealt with me many times on $2k+ transactions, like everyone else i have dealt with, flawless transactions.

Yet, again like everyone else your eyes probably lit up with this guys offers. Even if he does 'pull through' ill bet you 50BTC his GCs are carded.

To the guy asking what 'carded' means, this means someone is fraudulently using somebody elses credit card, to purchase goods.

Do not assume because you have your GCs that 180days down the line amazon put your accounts in negative balance, and ask for the money back!

My most recent transaction with newdude was over 1.5 weeks ago, and the transaction before that was over 2.5 weeks ago.  Total value was $2k+ in transactions.  I'm not sure where you came up with the 180 day number for a supposedly stolen Amazon gift card code to reveal itself, but let's say that you're correct about the assumption of 30 to 60 days for a cardholder to discover and report unauthorized charges.

By my clock, 60 days is about 2 months.  So by the end of May, if my Amazon account with its large gift card balance is still in good standing, and others can report that as well, I expect that you would owe newdude 50 btc, am I correct?


Title: Re: DISCOUNT AMAZON CODES FOR SALE 20% DISCOUNT, not!
Post by: BTC guy on April 05, 2012, 01:45:32 AM
When i first started selling here i got the third degree too. Almost all new sellers do. People around here are very suspicious. And for good reason. Dont take it personal. Just do good business and eventually people will start to trust you and appreciate your service.


Title: Re: DISCOUNT AMAZON CODES FOR SALE 20% DISCOUNT, not!
Post by: John (John K.) on April 05, 2012, 01:57:32 AM
When i first started selling here i got the third degree too. Almost all new sellers do. People around here are very suspicious. And for good reason. Dont take it personal. Just do good business and eventually people will start to trust you and appreciate your service.

You wouldn't believe the amount of carders/scammers we saw here last year. I could say safely that almost 1/3 of sellers turned out to be a kind of scam last year.


Title: Re: DISCOUNT AMAZON CODES FOR SALE 20% DISCOUNT, not!
Post by: newdude on April 05, 2012, 01:59:39 AM
When i first started selling here i got the third degree too. Almost all new sellers do. People around here are very suspicious. And for good reason. Dont take it personal. Just do good business and eventually people will start to trust you and appreciate your service.
Thanks for the confidence. But I retire from this board.
I mean, anyone with half a brain knows that almost any amount of credit card purchase will be verified.
When I use my Chase Visa, they freeze my card for any amount over $200. They then call me to verify the transaction.
So to sell $50,000 worth of Amazon codes, purchased with a stolen credit card, is highly obsurd.
Thanks man. Appreciate it.


Title: Re: DISCOUNT AMAZON CODES FOR SALE 20% DISCOUNT, not!
Post by: newdude on April 05, 2012, 02:00:13 AM
When i first started selling here i got the third degree too. Almost all new sellers do. People around here are very suspicious. And for good reason. Dont take it personal. Just do good business and eventually people will start to trust you and appreciate your service.

You wouldn't believe the amount of carders/scammers we saw here last year. I could say safely that almost 1/3 of sellers turned out to be a kind of scam last year.
I agree.


Title: Re: DISCOUNT AMAZON CODES FOR SALE 20% DISCOUNT, not!
Post by: newdude on April 05, 2012, 02:00:36 AM
Where is the popcorn?


Title: Re: DISCOUNT AMAZON CODES FOR SALE 20% DISCOUNT, not!
Post by: BTC guy on April 05, 2012, 02:04:11 AM
I believe you john. I also believe in innocent until proven guilty.

Newdude, dont get sucked in to the shit storm. Stand your ground and sell me codes.


Title: Re: DISCOUNT AMAZON CODES FOR SALE 20% DISCOUNT, not!
Post by: newdude on April 05, 2012, 02:06:59 AM
You dealt with me many times on $2k+ transactions, like everyone else i have dealt with, flawless transactions.

Yet, again like everyone else your eyes probably lit up with this guys offers. Even if he does 'pull through' ill bet you 50BTC his GCs are carded.

To the guy asking what 'carded' means, this means someone is fraudulently using somebody elses credit card, to purchase goods.

Do not assume because you have your GCs that 180days down the line amazon put your accounts in negative balance, and ask for the money back!

My most recent transaction with newdude was over 1.5 weeks ago, and the transaction before that was over 2.5 weeks ago.  Total value was $2k+ in transactions.  I'm not sure where you came up with the 180 day number for a supposedly stolen Amazon gift card code to reveal itself, but let's say that you're correct about the assumption of 30 to 60 days for a cardholder to discover and report unauthorized charges.

By my clock, 60 days is about 2 months.  So by the end of May, if my Amazon account with its large gift card balance is still in good standing, and others can report that as well, I expect that you would owe newdude 50 btc, am I correct?
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If ANYONE would have said I was a scammer, it would be this guy. He was my #3 customer.
Even while all this bullshit Occulta was saying I was a scammer, this guy was STILL buying.
If I were still selling on this forum, Id bet a bag of nickels he STILL would buy from me!
The truth will set you free!


Title: Re: DISCOUNT AMAZON CODES FOR SALE 20% DISCOUNT, not!
Post by: BTC guy on April 05, 2012, 02:07:47 AM
Less talk more codes.


Title: Re: DISCOUNT AMAZON CODES FOR SALE 20% DISCOUNT, not!
Post by: rjk on April 05, 2012, 02:07:58 AM
So the email reveals your way of getting these cheap, and it looks like a legit way of doing it. What I am confused about though, is the staunch refusal at first to say how you obtained the codes - I mean really, how the hell could we break in to that and make you less profitable, just by knowing how it is done? Not all of us run pawnshops. That was my initial turnoff, coupled with the somewhat childish --or at least excitable-- behavior when confronted with the very real possibility that it could be a scam or carded.

Being honest and upfront with everyone would have made the whole thing so much smoother and easier. When you come back next month, be sure to start a new thread instead of reviving this one, and then explain in the new thread that you are able to sell these at a discount because you got them by selling hardware which was purchased at a discount. Don't be so defensive when accused of scamming, and instead offer proof while remaining pleasant.

If you follow the simple tips above, you will enjoy a painless selling experience, and I might even suggest that you could sell just as quickly if you raised your price by a few percent - that is a few percent that goes right back into your pocket.



Title: Re: DISCOUNT AMAZON CODES FOR SALE 20% DISCOUNT, not!
Post by: newdude on April 05, 2012, 02:11:48 AM
I believe you john. I also believe in innocent until proven guilty.

Newdude, dont get sucked in to the shit storm. Stand your ground and sell me codes.
IF and thats a big IF I do ever sell codes on here again, it wont be until April 29th.
So if these codes are INDEED stolen or carded, it will be revealed by then.
I told this to Theymos and I will stand by what I said. He agreed.
But IF I do come back and sell, I will have more than EVER. And a larger discount also.
Let them try and beat 30 percent discount. It cant be beaten.
Yabba dabba doo! (Thats my catchphrase)


Title: Re: DISCOUNT AMAZON CODES FOR SALE 20% DISCOUNT, not!
Post by: newdude on April 05, 2012, 02:17:35 AM
So the email reveals your way of getting these cheap, and it looks like a legit way of doing it. What I am confused about though, is the staunch refusal at first to say how you obtained the codes - I mean really, how the hell could we break in to that and make you less profitable, just by knowing how it is done? Not all of us run pawnshops. That was my initial turnoff, coupled with the somewhat childish --or at least excitable-- behavior when confronted with the very real possibility that it could be a scam or carded.

Being honest and upfront with everyone would have made the whole thing so much smoother and easier. When you come back next month, be sure to start a new thread instead of reviving this one, and then explain in the new thread that you are able to sell these at a discount because you got them by selling hardware which was purchased at a discount. Don't be so defensive when accused of scamming, and instead offer proof while remaining pleasant.

If you follow the simple tips above, you will enjoy a painless selling experience, and I might even suggest that you could sell just as quickly if you raised your price by a few percent - that is a few percent that goes right back into your pocket.


Ok, since you have high rep, I wont go off on you.
First of all, lets see:
Who was the FIRST to come out and call me a scammer? Occulta.
Why would he do that? Because HE has everything to lose.
I am not one to run from criticism, but coming from him, how dare HE question me?
If it came from YOU or someone else with rep, then fine. But it was HIM with the bullshit.
I agree with EVERYTHING you JUST said. Point taken.
See, that's how a dialogue is done. NOT the way OCCULTA came at me.


Title: Re: DISCOUNT AMAZON CODES FOR SALE 20% DISCOUNT, not!
Post by: newdude on April 05, 2012, 02:18:14 AM
Less talk more codes.
Nah, Im good.


Title: Re: DISCOUNT AMAZON CODES FOR SALE 20% DISCOUNT, not!
Post by: BTC guy on April 05, 2012, 02:25:24 AM
It kinda seems you like the attention and want to continue arguing about this. Why continue to debate this if your not gonna stick around? Lets cut to the chase and be direct. Are you going to sell more codes or not?


Title: Re: DISCOUNT AMAZON CODES FOR SALE 20% DISCOUNT, not!
Post by: newdude on April 05, 2012, 02:31:07 AM
It kinda seems like you like the attention. Why continue talking about this if your not gonna stick around? Lets cut to the chase and be direct. Are you going to sell more codes or not?
I really dont care one way or the other.
I am trying to respond.
I already told you, if I do sell again, not until April 29.
Thats what I told Theymos and that what I will do.
No private transaction, no public transaction.
But dont worry. I will have around $50,000 or so on that date.
We shall see.




Title: Re: DISCOUNT AMAZON CODES FOR SALE 20% DISCOUNT, not!
Post by: newdude on April 05, 2012, 02:32:32 AM
At a 30% discount too.
So I guess that answer is YES. On April 29th.


Title: Re: DISCOUNT AMAZON CODES FOR SALE 20% DISCOUNT, not!
Post by: John (John K.) on April 05, 2012, 02:35:30 AM
I believe you john. I also believe in innocent until proven guilty.

Newdude, dont get sucked in to the shit storm. Stand your ground and sell me codes.
IF and thats a big IF I do ever sell codes on here again, it wont be until April 29th.
So if these codes are INDEED stolen or carded, it will be revealed by then.
I told this to Theymos and I will stand by what I said. He agreed.
But IF I do come back and sell, I will have more than EVER. And a larger discount also.
Let them try and beat 30 percent discount. It cant be beaten.
Yabba dabba doo! (Thats my catchphrase)

It kinda seems you like the attention and want to continue arguing about this. Why continue to debate this if your not gonna stick around? Lets cut to the chase and be direct. Are you going to sell more codes or not?

If you revealed your method (ain't really copy-able, who here runs a pawnshop?) earlier, then all of this trouble wouldn't have occurred. Anyway, just try selling here again on 29th. I would be one of your customers if all is well.


Title: Re: DISCOUNT AMAZON CODES FOR SALE 20% DISCOUNT, not!
Post by: JWU42 on April 05, 2012, 02:36:19 AM
I will be buying!


Title: Re: DISCOUNT AMAZON CODES FOR SALE 20% DISCOUNT, not!
Post by: newdude on April 05, 2012, 02:38:33 AM
I will be buying!
Werd to Big Bird!


Title: Re: DISCOUNT AMAZON CODES FOR SALE 20% DISCOUNT, not!
Post by: newdude on April 05, 2012, 02:39:38 AM
I believe you john. I also believe in innocent until proven guilty.

Newdude, dont get sucked in to the shit storm. Stand your ground and sell me codes.
IF and thats a big IF I do ever sell codes on here again, it wont be until April 29th.
So if these codes are INDEED stolen or carded, it will be revealed by then.
I told this to Theymos and I will stand by what I said. He agreed.
But IF I do come back and sell, I will have more than EVER. And a larger discount also.
Let them try and beat 30 percent discount. It cant be beaten.
Yabba dabba doo! (Thats my catchphrase)

It kinda seems you like the attention and want to continue arguing about this. Why continue to debate this if your not gonna stick around? Lets cut to the chase and be direct. Are you going to sell more codes or not?

If you revealed your method (ain't really copy-able, who here runs a pawnshop?) earlier, then all of this trouble wouldn't have occurred. Anyway, just try selling here again on 29th. I would be one of your customers if all is well.
Werd to Big Bird!


Title: Re: DISCOUNT AMAZON CODES FOR SALE 20% DISCOUNT, not!
Post by: BTC guy on April 05, 2012, 02:40:21 AM
Take a deep breath newdude. Remain calm. Get your act together. Be polite and professional. Take care of the guy you owe. Come back with more codes. You will be fine.


Title: Re: DISCOUNT AMAZON CODES FOR SALE 20% DISCOUNT, not!
Post by: newdude on April 05, 2012, 02:47:59 AM
Take a deep breath newdude. Remain calm. Get your act together. Be polite and professional. Take care of the guy you owe. Come back with more codes. You will be fine.
Word to Big Bird.
Advice taken.
Get ready for April 29th. I will sell them all for 30% flat rate.


Title: Re: DISCOUNT AMAZON CODES FOR SALE 20% DISCOUNT, not!
Post by: newdude on April 05, 2012, 03:37:44 AM
I dont encourage theft. Nor do i jump to conclusions. If the codes work thats all i care about. How is gets them is none of my business. There could be 100 different explanations to how he acquires them. Until somebody here confirms he is scam i will buy his codes.
My point exactly.
Dont worry, as of now, I wont sell anymore e-codes here, PERIOD.
I havent scammed anyone.


awww I wanted to buy some codes too!!! too bad the haters ruined it.  :-X
Hate hate hate hate!!! LOL
I will be back on April 29th.
Ok, its my bedtime.
I have to get up early in the morning.


Title: Re: DISCOUNT AMAZON CODES FOR SALE 20% DISCOUNT, not!
Post by: haploid23 on April 05, 2012, 04:20:50 AM
EDIT: go to the next post for full details of the whole email convo

WOW dude, you are just so full of shit, I left for a few hours and come back with a few pages or rambling. I will post our very last two emails, while I organize the whole and complete string of email convo we've had in the meantime, so you can see what he left out in emails and how shady he really is. But for now, just look at the facts. He claims he gets tens of thousands of dollars almost every day, yet he can't use this money to give me a refund or the Amazon code that I bought. All I asked for was the codes I paid for, or a refund, so is that so hard to ask for? Seriously, why hold up my money and not give the codes or a refund?

All these are legit questions, and just look at how he never answers a single one, instead uses vulgar language and just swears at me. If you look at what he actually says, there's no real content behind it:



Quote from: haploid23
If you want to save whatever "reputation" you have left, then how about you answer these question instead of ignoring them:
 
1) You easily accepted my payment, yet not able to give a refund after a week. Where did this money go?
2) You had tons of other payments (~$4000 per day), why don't you use this money for my refund?
3) You went to the bank yesterday to get money for my refund, so where is it?
4) You kept getting $5000 in codes and sell it to many people, where are all the codes you owe me? Why give it to other people when I'm the one that already paid?
5) If you keep promising you'll give my codes or a refund "later today", and it's been a week, then where is it?
6) What's your excuse for every single day you couldn't provide the codes or a refund?
7) How much longer are you going to stall on this?
 

Like I said, refund or the code and I'll delete my posts in the forum, otherwise I post all of these emails messages in the forum soon.

Quote from: newdude
Fuck that.
I dont need a reputation anymore, I quit.
So go post that.
Your ass can go post bullshit, but cant repsond to me in a timely manner.
Impatient Vietnamese motherfucker. Go fuck yourself.
Your $600 is my reputation. And to think I was going to give you an extra 5% discount.
Stupid motherfucker.
Go get your codes from Occulta.
And to let you know, I got in 10,000$ in codes today alone. And they are already sold.
Will have another $10,000 by Friday.
So go post that.

Quote from: haploid23
Really now, just look at how many of my questions you actually answered. That's right, NONE. Instead, you go off on a rampage because I wanted a refund on codes you can't even give? Why are you the one mad again? You're holding my money, not giving me codes, and bragging how you get $5k - $10k every day, and you're mad? So you got in $10,000 today, knowing you still owe me $1,000 of it and decide to sell it off to someone else. You must either love this drama, or you never had a penny of that $10,000, and I'm guessing it's the 2nd option.
 
Damn, this is really like trying to argue with a rock. So basically " I don't need a reputation anymore, I quite, your $600 is my reputation" is you admitting you're going to keep it?


Title: Re: DISCOUNT AMAZON CODES FOR SALE 20% DISCOUNT, not!
Post by: haploid23 on April 05, 2012, 07:26:52 AM
What newdude posted was when our transaction was OK, which you already read. This is the shady part that he omitted, and I’ll continue where he left off. Blue is text is me, green his newdude, and red is my important emphasis on the matter:


Quote
1. You can get the MoneyPak tonight or tomororow. Whenever you can. I wont hound you over $232.
2. Sorry about my incorrect calculations.
3. Whatever amount over $232, I will put it on your line of credit.
4. Here are the (10), $100 codes.

VRXM-8NRE8N-2VYE
SV7P-XAPUHC-4WNF
8M4R-9XWTDM-MPRN
4ZG2-PJJ6ZF-8AZE
H7AS-ZR3FYF-4EYV

9SCH-QPXD3Y-E92Q
DWDN-H83DC3-N9M2
L4K7-S3NZXM-JLXT
98RA-A4RES8-HUG5
AD4S-6N6BRF-Y2GQ
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1. Take your time in paying me. No rush. If you cant do it tonight, just do it tomorrow when you wake up. I am in no hurry to collect ANY money from YOU. You got it like that.
2. Send the bitcoin or Mtgox whnever you can. Im not in a hurry.
3. I get the codes how they send them to me. So if its $500 or $100, I dont know until I get them.
4, If I dont reply back fast, its cause I am out on the town. I will hit you back when I come back online.
5. I think I just sent you the codes.

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I just got home, I picked up a moneypak and loaded it while on my way back. Whenever you're ready for the number, I can give it to you right now. Giving you the moneypak number now, or when you get more amazon codes, doesn't matter to me, I trust you enough. What BTC wallet address you want me to send the remaining BTC to? Same one as last time?

BTC rate is currently $4.80/BTC, so I send you 6.51 BTC, along with the $1000 moneypak for the next $1000 GC you get.

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Still waiting on femaining.
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1. Since I havent heard from you, those codes that I sent you, I sold them for a higher rate. None of them will work now, since I sold them to someone else and they loaded them onto their account.
2. The other $5000 that i got today, i sold them already. Since I didnt hear from you , I guess you didnt want them.
3. How do you want your other money refunded? Bitcoins or Mtgox?
4. This is a first come, first served. Since I didnt hear from you, apparantly you didnt want them.
5. If you want some more cards, you are going to have to tell me how much you want.
Problem started here. He sent me this email during work hours, so I didn’t respond for 7 hours, so he decides he takes the codes he had already given to me and sells it to someone else. First of all, I had no time/chance to respond. Second, once you give a code out, you can never give the same codes to someone else, especially if I already paid for them. Third, if I had actually used the codes already, the other buyer would have been screwed. Horrible business practice.

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I got home, and see this bad news email. I had a rough day at work because something happened to my car, and I had to take care of it. You basically gave me less than 1 day to respond, which was during business times, WHEN I'M AT WORK. Then when I'm finally home to catch up on stuff, I get this email that you gave my gift cards to someone else that used them already? Seriously, does this seem right to you? I already gave you most of the money, and I already had another $1000 moneypak that I was going to give when I got home, then I find out you gave my gift card codes to someone else. How does this even sound logical to you, that you already had my money in your hand, then give the codes to someone else? And that's not even the worst part. Luckily for your other customer, I did not use apply the codes yet because I have not gotten a chance to yet. But what if I had actually used the codes already? You did not actually know if I had used them or not, yet you took money from someone else on codes that you had already given to me? Does this sound like good business practice to you?

You made it sound like it was not a big deal that I still owed ~$250, and I did not give out my $1000 moneypak yet because you did not confirm with me when you were going to get more in. So please give me the refund on that $1000 gift codes that you already sold to another person. I would like it in mtgoxUSD code please. We can start over when you get more codes, as I'll have the money from the refund as well as the $1000 moneypak I still have for this specific transaction.

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Sir, As you may not know, I do not make much on selling these codes.
For every $5,000 worth that I sell, I only make $100 profit. Thats it. No more, no less.
Yes we had a deal, but I did not hear from you, at all.
Yes, I reserved cards for you, but I didnt hear from you.
I had someone else that wanted to buy those cards and I still did not hear from you.
So was I supposed to reject a $5,000 sale waiting on you?
I emailed you 3 times and still didnt hear from you.
Thats why I aksed you for a phone number, for which you did not give to me.
You didnt think to maybe email me and let me know that you were to be delayed?
I have very good business practice. I commnicate with all of my customers. I let them know one way or another.
So if you want more, how much do you want now?
Let me know, as I have another $5,000 coming in today.
I can check to see if any codes have been used. I have my direct account representative at Amazon. All I did was call them and ask were the codes redeemed and they said no. Thats how I knew the codes were not redeemed.
Keep this in mind, he only makes $100 for every $5,000 he sells

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Let me know how much of this $5,000 i have that you want.
You have 3 hours to let me know or they will be sold.

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I'm at work, out in a few hours. Please send the replacement codes for the ones you took back, after that we'll go from there later today or tomorrow

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Ok.

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Ok lets take care of this. Please send me the replacement codes.

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I am getting another $5,000 in today or tomorrow. How much of it do you want me to hold for you besides what you have already paid for? You have first crack at all of it. Let me know. You have 24 hours to let me know.
A few times he got different batches of 5,000 codes, and says I have priority.

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Please reserve an additional $1000 of it, I already have the $1000 moneypak I loaded a few days ago.

I thought you reserved them for me yesterday? Unless you already sold that $5000?

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I will have your $1000 in cards in 30 minutes. As soon as I get home, I will email you the codes.
It’s been a couple days now, he still has my money, still no codes, so apparently I didn’t get priority.

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It's the end of the day and I need to go to sleep. What happened to 30 minutes? You waited a few hours for me and decided to sell my codes off. But you held my money I already given for a few days now, and yet still no codes. How is that ok? If you can't provide the codes in the morning, then just refund me by mtgox code or bitcoins (here is my BTC wallet address: 114sZseTmTHhm2QdfGTpM3Estnj5hUwwTt). Then I'll pay it again when you actually have the codes, I don't want my money just held up.

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I will have Virtual Visa e-cards later today. Would you be interested in those also?

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No, I need amazon GC or a refund like we originally agreed. I didn't pay your to give me virtual visa cards. If you can't provide in a few hours, just give me a refund and I'll pay again once you actually have GC
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Ok stop stalling, I need the refund now. Email the mtgox code for the refund. If I don't get it soon, then I will pretty much lose all trust in you and there will be no more future business between us. So please send the refund, and email me again once you actually have the amazon codes instead of just holding up my money.

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I have some codes coming in today. You think I am trying to scam you?
He had some coming in every day, yet refuses to give me the codes or a refund.

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No, do you not think you're scamming me, YET. But what is the reason for all these delays and stalling time? I'd be fine if you had my money AS LONG AS YOU GIVE THE CODES. A few days ago, you said you'd get $5000, then why didn't you give me any of it? Yesterday you said you had more and give it to me in 30 minutes, so where is it?? It's pretty simple, if you have the codes, give them to me, if you don't have them yet, that's fine then just refund my money and we'll do the transaction again when you actually some. The problem is you keep saying you have more codes coming, yet I get none.

You waited for me half a day and decided to sell all my codes, while now I'm waiting for you several days now and you still have my money with no codes. How is that even fair?? Send me the refund or code, and if I don't get either one by the time I go to sleep today, I will be calling you a scammer. There is no reason for you to keep giving me false words while still holding my money, unless you're scamming me.
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What happened to "I have some codes coming in today"? Looks like you lied to me again. In 3 hours if I don't get the codes or a refund, I'll post that you're a scammer.

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Motherrfucker I didnt lie to you. Your ass respond back to me at 2am, 7 hours after I send you response. I have more codes in Today, but you act like the world is going to end if I dont refund yojur money immediately. So if you want a refund, I will. Go get someone else to give you a 20% discount everyday and not scam you. Dont think because you are a customer you can just say anything to me. I have a real job and a family, just like you do.
Vulgar words. Very professional right here. How many times did he already say he had codes coming in those days or give a refund? Right... didn't lie to me. "Immediate", yet it's been almost a week of stalling around already.

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Why are you so hostile now? So you couldn't wait for me for 7 hours, and yet I've been waiting for you for several days now without the code, and you're calling me impatient? What makes it worst is that you keep saying you'll be getting in more codes every day, yet I did not get any of it. I already said these delays are fine, but just refund my money and I'll we'll do the transaction again ONCE YOU ACTUALLY HAVE CODES. How is that so hard to understand?

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My point exactly. So sorry for yelling at you. Ivuav very very high demand. If you still want. I will supply.

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I still want it, but like I said, I have no idea when you'll actually get the codes, so just refund me. I will buy the codes again when you actually have it on hand. So please put money into your mtgox account to refund, and let me know when you actually have the codes. You been saying you'll get codes too many times and not actually have them yet.

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I did have the codes and sold them. I dont tell you something that is not true. I sell them as fast as i get them. That's why i always try to ask you how much more do you want because i well them all quickly.
Again, he had more codes, still did not give them to me, nor gave me money back.

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Ok, so knowing that you're still holding my money and knowing that I've been waiting for codes for the past couple days, you still sell to someone else?? So please use that money that they paid you to refund me right now. How many times did I ask that already? And again, I'm going to repeat it for the last time: Refund my money, and we'll start the transaction again when you decide you're actually going to give me the codes. Last time I'm repeating it, because your actions just don't make sense.

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And as said, after i refund you, go get 20% from someone else. Did you understand that? i work 12 hours a day, everyday.

I told you i will refund you when i go to the bank.
He said he’d refund a couple times already, still did not do it yet.

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Why do you need to go to the bank? You just told me you sold codes to someone else, so use that money to pay my refund. I said that I'd use the refund money and the other $1000 moneypak to buy your codes when you actually have them, but if you don't want to sell me anymore codes after this, then that's your choice, I'll just go buy it elsewhere.
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So where is my refund or codes? You already got money from selling codes to someone else, and also all banks are closed by this time. 2 more hours and if I don't see a refund or codes, I'll say you're a scammer. You making this many excuses for this long is just ridiculous.

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I havent scammed you for anything. My reputation is worth more than $600.

You can go fuck yourself. I will refund you as soon as I get the bitcoins or mtgox.
More vulgar words. Apparently he gets $5,000 every day, sells them every day, yet still couldn’t give me any of the codes or use any of the received payment to give a refund.

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Looks like you just confirmed yourself a scammer by not responding. I will post full details of this shady transaction if you decide to stay quiet now and not give the refund.
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If you want to save whatever "reputation" you have left, then how about you answer these question instead of ignoring them:

1) You easily accepted my payment, yet not able to give a refund after a week. Where did this money go?
2) You had tons of other payments (~$4000 per day), why don't you use this money for my refund?
3) You went to the bank yesterday to get money for my refund, so where is it?
4) You kept getting $5000 in codes and sell it to many people, where are all the codes you owe me? Why give it to other people when I'm the one that already paid?
5) If you keep promising you'll give my codes or a refund "later today", and it's been a week, then where is it?
6) What's your excuse for every single day you couldn't provide the codes or a refund?
7) How much longer are you going to stall on this?
Like I said, refund or the code and I'll delete my posts in the forum, otherwise I post all of these emails messages in the forum soon.

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Fuck that.
I dont need a reputation anymore, I quit.
So go post that.
Your ass can go post bullshit, but cant repsond to me in a timely manner.
Impatient Vietnamese motherfucker. Go fuck yourself.
Your $600 is my reputation. And to think I was going to give you an extra 5% discount.
Stupid motherfucker.
Go get your codes from Occulta.
And to let you know, I got in 10,000$ in codes today alone. And they are already sold.
Will have another $10,000 by Friday.
So go post that.
Dodged all questions as expected, and brags that he gets $20k in codes.

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Really now, just look at how many of my questions you actually answered. That's right, NONE. Instead, you go off on a rampage because I wanted a refund on codes you can't even give? Why are you the one mad again? You're holding my money, not giving me codes, and bragging how you get $5k - $10k every day, and you're mad? So you got in $10,000 today, knowing you still owe me $1,000 of it and decide to sell it off to someone else. You must either love this drama, or you never had a penny of that $10,000, and I'm guessing it's the 2nd option.

Damn, this is really like trying to argue with a rock. So basically " I don't need a reputation anymore, I quite, your $600 is my reputation" is you admitting you're going to keep it?


Title: Re: DISCOUNT AMAZON CODES FOR SALE 20% DISCOUNT, not!
Post by: haploid23 on April 05, 2012, 08:54:20 AM
It might seem like there are a lot of back and forth messages, but only a few a day was exchanged, but since it unnecessarily dragged on for over a week, the messages added up.

  • If you look at hard facts, I paid him over a week ago, still haven’t received all codes yet, nor a refund.
  • He claims he gets codes almost every day, yet didn’t give me any of it.
  • He sells thousands to other people, yet can’t use incoming money to refund me.
  • Simply give me the GC codes, or a refund, that’s not too hard, and that’s the way it should be.
  • If these simple facts are not enough, then dig a little deeper into his logic.
  • Notice how there is no real content behind his words.
  • Look at how much stalling he does
  • Ask him a real legitimate question and he won’t answer it and act hostile.
  • He only makes $100 for every $5000 he sells, so discounting over 20% will put him into huge negatives. Why would you do this then?


Title: Re: DISCOUNT AMAZON CODES FOR SALE 20% DISCOUNT, not!
Post by: occulta on April 05, 2012, 10:26:58 AM
You guys can drop my name into your conversations all you like, but this has nothing to do with me, its only because i was the first to spot it and that i sell my Associates earnings here...

You say you dont care if they are stolen and such, and that if 2 weeks have passed you are in the clear, just give me a break.

This is the MAIN POINT HERE 'BTC Guy'

Who would buy $1000 of GCs from Amazon.com, with a Credit Card. Then sell them on for $750 to make a $250 loss... SERIOUSLY

Whatever goes on with this guy, my whole arguement is he has never told anybody why he would do this!!! And yes i checked his codes out with Amazon, and they were purchased with a credit card in a bulk buy of $1000 (thats the ones i checked out from another thread he posted all the codes in) Maybe they are all purchased from the same account, there are plently of codes posted in this thread for you lot to check out, if they are, at the very least this is money laundering, and amazon are fully aware about this accounts actions now.

PS. Haploid i do feel for you a little, but i did point this out on the guys very first thread that simply his attitude was something to worry about.


Title: Re: DISCOUNT AMAZON CODES FOR SALE 20% DISCOUNT, not!
Post by: newdude on April 05, 2012, 12:18:46 PM
EDIT: go to the next post for full details of the whole email convo

WOW dude, you are just so full of shit, I left for a few hours and come back with a few pages or rambling. I will post our very last two emails, while I organize the whole and complete string of email convo we've had in the meantime, so you can see what he left out in emails and how shady he really is. But for now, just look at the facts. He claims he gets tens of thousands of dollars almost every day, yet he can't use this money to give me a refund or the Amazon code that I bought. All I asked for was the codes I paid for, or a refund, so is that so hard to ask for? Seriously, why hold up my money and not give the codes or a refund?

All these are legit questions, and just look at how he never answers a single one, instead uses vulgar language and just swears at me. If you look at what he actually says, there's no real content behind it:



Quote from: haploid23
If you want to save whatever "reputation" you have left, then how about you answer these question instead of ignoring them:
 
1) You easily accepted my payment, yet not able to give a refund after a week. Where did this money go?
2) You had tons of other payments (~$4000 per day), why don't you use this money for my refund?
3) You went to the bank yesterday to get money for my refund, so where is it?
4) You kept getting $5000 in codes and sell it to many people, where are all the codes you owe me? Why give it to other people when I'm the one that already paid?
5) If you keep promising you'll give my codes or a refund "later today", and it's been a week, then where is it?
6) What's your excuse for every single day you couldn't provide the codes or a refund?
7) How much longer are you going to stall on this?
 

Like I said, refund or the code and I'll delete my posts in the forum, otherwise I post all of these emails messages in the forum soon.

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Fuck that.
I dont need a reputation anymore, I quit.
So go post that.
Your ass can go post bullshit, but cant repsond to me in a timely manner.
Impatient Vietnamese motherfucker. Go fuck yourself.
Your $600 is my reputation. And to think I was going to give you an extra 5% discount.
Stupid motherfucker.
Go get your codes from Occulta.
And to let you know, I got in 10,000$ in codes today alone. And they are already sold.
Will have another $10,000 by Friday.
So go post that.

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Really now, just look at how many of my questions you actually answered. That's right, NONE. Instead, you go off on a rampage because I wanted a refund on codes you can't even give? Why are you the one mad again? You're holding my money, not giving me codes, and bragging how you get $5k - $10k every day, and you're mad? So you got in $10,000 today, knowing you still owe me $1,000 of it and decide to sell it off to someone else. You must either love this drama, or you never had a penny of that $10,000, and I'm guessing it's the 2nd option.
 
Damn, this is really like trying to argue with a rock. So basically " I don't need a reputation anymore, I quite, your $600 is my reputation" is you admitting you're going to keep it?

Yap yap yap. I already said I owe yoiu $570 or whatever it is.


Title: Re: DISCOUNT AMAZON CODES FOR SALE 20% DISCOUNT, not!
Post by: newdude on April 05, 2012, 12:24:20 PM
You guys can drop my name into your conversations all you like, but this has nothing to do with me, its only because i was the first to spot it and that i sell my Associates earnings here...

You say you dont care if they are stolen and such, and that if 2 weeks have passed you are in the clear, just give me a break.

This is the MAIN POINT HERE 'BTC Guy'

Who would buy $1000 of GCs from Amazon.com, with a Credit Card. Then sell them on for $750 to make a $250 loss... SERIOUSLY

Whatever goes on with this guy, my whole arguement is he has never told anybody why he would do this!!! And yes i checked his codes out with Amazon, and they were purchased with a credit card in a bulk buy of $1000 (thats the ones i checked out from another thread he posted all the codes in) Maybe they are all purchased from the same account, there are plently of codes posted in this thread for you lot to check out, if they are, at the very least this is money laundering, and amazon are fully aware about this accounts actions now.

PS. Haploid i do feel for you a little, but i did point this out on the guys very first thread that simply his attitude was something to worry about.
Yeah, its my attitude.
I guess those fake accounts you claim I made are defending me too.
I guess I created BTC Guy too.
I am too old for this shit. (Danny Glover)
The main point is you are barking up a tree that you dont have a leg to stand on.
If I were mr scammer, I could sell $5,000 right now on this board.
You just get ready for April 29th.
Mr Occulta.


Title: Re: DISCOUNT AMAZON CODES FOR SALE 20% DISCOUNT, not!
Post by: newdude on April 05, 2012, 12:30:52 PM
It might seem like there are a lot of back and forth messages, but only a few a day was exchanged, but since it unnecessarily dragged on for over a week, the messages added up.

  • If you look at hard facts, I paid him over a week ago, still haven’t received all codes yet, nor a refund. NOPE
  • He claims he gets codes almost every day, yet didn’t give me any of it. I do. And your ass wont get ANY OF IT.
  • He sells thousands to other people, yet can’t use incoming money to refund me. NOPE
  • Simply give me the GC codes, or a refund, that’s not too hard, and that’s the way it should be. NAH
  • If these simple facts are not enough, then dig a little deeper into his logic. Dealing with you is illogical. I said I owe you
  • Notice how there is no real content behind his words. Nope, I am a baseless bag of jibba jabba
  • Look at how much stalling he does. Its not stalling.
  • Ask him a real legitimate question and he won’t answer it and act hostile. This is true. I AM hostile.
  • He only makes $100 for every $5000 he sells, so discounting over 20% will put him into huge negatives. Why would you do this then? If you only had a brain. I do make money. If I didnt, I wouldn't sell them.


Title: Re: DISCOUNT AMAZON CODES FOR SALE 20% DISCOUNT, not!
Post by: John (John K.) on April 05, 2012, 12:35:09 PM
newdude, just refund him/send his GC's and let it be it. This is bad for everyone.


Title: Re: DISCOUNT AMAZON CODES FOR SALE 20% DISCOUNT, not!
Post by: newdude on April 05, 2012, 12:44:58 PM
newdude, just refund him/send his GC's and let it be it. This is bad for everyone.
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I agree John.


Title: Re: DISCOUNT AMAZON CODES FOR SALE 20% DISCOUNT, not!
Post by: BTC guy on April 05, 2012, 01:37:02 PM
When i sell my goods i rarely get full price and i usually have to sell for less than what its worth. I dont see how this is much different. You do the same occulta. Only difference is newdudes rate is better than yours.

Regardless, i truly tire of this debate. And i do agree with john. Before you say or do anything else newdude you should refund haploaid or give him his code.


Title: Re: DISCOUNT AMAZON CODES FOR SALE 20% DISCOUNT, not!
Post by: occulta on April 05, 2012, 02:45:36 PM
When i sell my goods i rarely get full price and i usually have to sell for less than what its worth. I dont see how this is much different. You do the same occulta. Only difference is newdudes rate is better than yours.

Regardless, i truly tire of this debate. And i do agree with john. Before you say or do anything else newdude you should refund haploaid or give him his code.

Look, you really are missing the point.... I sell my cards, that i earn from associates at a small loss for pure convenience, and i am sure that is the same for you with your goods. I own 100% of the earnings, so if i decide to make my profit margin 80%, that is my decision.

Newdude is actually going out and buying them weekely or whatever, to make a loss, thats some total bullshit. Therefore his profit margin is -20%, how can you not understand that? its so simple.

Newdude, i wont even respond to your silly little comments about me, none of them are valid.


Title: Re: DISCOUNT AMAZON CODES FOR SALE 20% DISCOUNT, not!
Post by: BTC guy on April 05, 2012, 02:51:37 PM
Maybe you are right. Maybe not. I dont care about the details. I just want cheap codes.


Title: Re: DISCOUNT AMAZON CODES FOR SALE 20% DISCOUNT, not!
Post by: occulta on April 05, 2012, 02:55:29 PM
Maybe you are right. Maybe not. I dont care about the details. I just want cheap codes.

I am right, and if you dont care about these details, i will be nasty and say i truly hope you get stung for it :)


Title: Re: DISCOUNT AMAZON CODES FOR SALE 20% DISCOUNT, not!
Post by: BTC guy on April 05, 2012, 03:04:54 PM
LOL be nice now. I really dont care about newdude or you. Im a trader. I want amazon codes. He has a better rate than you. Thats my only interest here. How he does business is not my business. Im not gonna interrogate him and demand answers. Until he is proven scam i will buy from him.


Title: Re: DISCOUNT AMAZON CODES FOR SALE 20% DISCOUNT, not!
Post by: ataranlen on April 05, 2012, 03:08:29 PM
LOL be nice now. I really dont care about newdude or you. Im a trader. I want amazon codes. He has a better rate than you. Thats my only interest here. How he does business is not my business. Im not gonna interrogate him and demand answers. Until he is proven scam i will buy from him.

Even if he's not scamming you, It sounds like he's stealing from someone. Hell, Even if he's buying the cards himself and then selling them, He could always later report his own card stolen. Knowingly buying stolen goods can get both parties in trouble!


Title: Re: DISCOUNT AMAZON CODES FOR SALE 20% DISCOUNT, not!
Post by: occulta on April 05, 2012, 03:15:56 PM
LOL be nice now. I really dont care about newdude or you. Im a trader. I want amazon codes. He has a better rate than you. Thats my only interest here. How he does business is not my business. Im not gonna interrogate him and demand answers. Until he is proven scam i will buy from him.

Even if he's not scamming you, It sounds like he's stealing from someone. Hell, Even if he's buying the cards himself and then selling them, He could always later report his own card stolen. Knowingly buying stolen goods can get both parties in trouble!

He thinks ignorance will stop amazon from wanting their money back :O


Title: Re: DISCOUNT AMAZON CODES FOR SALE 20% DISCOUNT, not!
Post by: occulta on April 05, 2012, 03:29:06 PM
Amazon Transcript, Theymos you can now remove this user


You are now connected to Mani from Amazon.com.

Me:Fraudulently obtained GCs
Sorry, i was talking to someone and got disconnected

Mani:Hello, My name is Mani.
I'm sorry your previous chat got disconnected.
Can you elaborate your question, please?

Me:ok, i have reason to believe someone is either logging into peoples amazon accounts and buying GCs
or using stolen credit cards to buy them
as he is selling them for 25% loss
he posted codes as 'proof' that they are real, can you confirm they are all purchased from the same account?

Mani:Thanks so much for the details, John.
May I know any link or codes which are posed as "proof", please?

Me:yea
1 second
i will paste in 2 parts, as it maybe why i got disconnected before
VRXM-8NRE8N-2VYE
SV7P-XAPUHC-4WNF
8M4R-9XWTDM-MPRN
4ZG2-PJJ6ZF-8AZE
H7AS-ZR3FYF-4EYV
9SCH-QPXD3Y-E92Q
DWDN-H83DC3-N9M2
L4K7-S3NZXM-JLXT
98RA-A4RES8-HUG5
AD4S-6N6BRF-Y2GQ
SLVG-5WT835-JZTC
KTF5-CRXA6A-WUA5
GLPB-F3HJSX-G3NY
X5C5-8RR4FC-FDMK
LL49-R4FRCR-SHSJ
YHXX-BJQ8SL-UZYU
VJJP-KXYVNK-7QM5
29PQ-NPHUZ7-UU5R
WKNX-GEAC8U-W8KW
7N8K-AZ9ZXC-H339
YDYL-HWNYGV-Z3WR
3K7Q-UJKRLL-PK2V
NKWY-6ZT6RT-76EY
Q5M7-H39BZC-EMKJ
F4QE-B7TB45-6Z4L
W5VF-62JHW9-ZBJF
ZBRM-MADX65-XU39
EGTK-ARPMUM-FPFE
5VW8-GQR53S-9UBJ
67L7-X8XDTL-CX2W
E43Q-ECEA4S-JVW2
XL8U-GL8PAL-Y6GM
4SCA-YAZNYU-MR94
A973-EMTZGC-PPUG
BTN9-CFD2LA-ZNV2
P85R-ZFEH9W-MZNH
6UE5-D2D33P-P68F
they should all be purchased from the same amazon account.

Mani:Thanks.
I have checked on these codes and can confirm that the fraudulent activity has been prevented and we have taken right action.
I assure you that right action has been taken. However, due to account security reasons, I'm unable to provide more information.

Me:Ok, can you not tell me exactly what activity occured so i can report this to the admin of the forum ?

Mani:I'm very sorry, John. Due to account security reasons, I'm unable to provide more information about other accounts other than contacting customer's own account.

Me:Ok, no problem, what email can i use to give you the forum admins contact once he is online?

Mani:I understand your concern, John. From Amazon

Me:He told me to remove the thread he wants to be contacted by you.

Mani:*Amazon's perspective, I can confirm that necessary action has been taken and we assure you that necessary action has been taken. We are unable to contact the forum's admin. From our side, we have took strict action against this activity.



Guess this is the real reason he said he wont be back till the 29th haha!



Title: Re: DISCOUNT AMAZON CODES FOR SALE 20% DISCOUNT, not!
Post by: fabrizziop on April 05, 2012, 03:39:19 PM
Although I'm not 100% certain newdude is a scammer/thief/etc, I think he should refund haploid23, no excuses. I see the administrative section of the forum hasn't taken any action, but I think that owing 600$ to someone and not be willing to give it back is a scam.

To newdude: Why don't you just refund the owed 600$ and keep on with your business?. Then it's your and your customers problem if you use stolen credit cards. And I think the email had a racist connotation, fyi.


Title: Re: DISCOUNT AMAZON CODES FOR SALE 20% DISCOUNT, not!
Post by: BTC guy on April 05, 2012, 03:39:23 PM
Hmm, i hope your wrong occulata cause i like his rates. But if you were right i will be the first to admit it.


Title: Re: DISCOUNT AMAZON CODES FOR SALE 20% DISCOUNT, not!
Post by: BTC guy on April 05, 2012, 03:49:38 PM
I also admit it doesnt look good he never delivered hapoids code. I hope i wasnt defending a scammer. I just want codes.


Title: Re: DISCOUNT AMAZON CODES FOR SALE 20% DISCOUNT, not!
Post by: haploid23 on April 05, 2012, 04:48:23 PM
This is him openly saying he will not give the GC codes, nor a refund. That's enough to be a scammer.



It might seem like there are a lot of back and forth messages, but only a few a day was exchanged, but since it unnecessarily dragged on for over a week, the messages added up.

  • If you look at hard facts, I paid him over a week ago, still haven’t received all codes yet, nor a refund. NOPE
  • He claims he gets codes almost every day, yet didn’t give me any of it. I do. And your ass wont get ANY OF IT.
  • He sells thousands to other people, yet can’t use incoming money to refund me. NOPE
  • Simply give me the GC codes, or a refund, that’s not too hard, and that’s the way it should be. NAH
  • If these simple facts are not enough, then dig a little deeper into his logic. Dealing with you is illogical. I said I owe you
  • Notice how there is no real content behind his words. Nope, I am a baseless bag of jibba jabba
  • Look at how much stalling he does. Its not stalling.
  • Ask him a real legitimate question and he won’t answer it and act hostile. This is true. I AM hostile.
  • He only makes $100 for every $5000 he sells, so discounting over 20% will put him into huge negatives. Why would you do this then? If you only had a brain. I do make money. If I didnt, I wouldn't sell them.


Title: Re: DISCOUNT AMAZON CODES FOR SALE 20% DISCOUNT, not!
Post by: DeathAndTaxes on April 05, 2012, 04:52:30 PM
Have you reported it to the mods?


Title: Re: DISCOUNT AMAZON CODES FOR SALE 20% DISCOUNT, not!
Post by: John (John K.) on April 05, 2012, 05:10:35 PM
BTC Guy = newdude

Confirmed via PMs. He is not very bright either. Be careful.

Proof of reasoning? *brings stale popcorn from 2 pages ago out again*


Title: Re: DISCOUNT AMAZON CODES FOR SALE 20% DISCOUNT, not!
Post by: BTC guy on April 05, 2012, 05:12:08 PM
This nub tried to sell me $300 worth of amazon codes for 27 coins. He insisted i go first. I refused. We have been exchanging PM's. Nothing worth talking about.


Title: Re: DISCOUNT AMAZON CODES FOR SALE 20% DISCOUNT, not!
Post by: BTC guy on April 05, 2012, 05:23:44 PM
LOL im not worried about your accusations. I have rep. You dont. Have a nice day.


Title: Re: DISCOUNT AMAZON CODES FOR SALE 20% DISCOUNT, not!
Post by: ataranlen on April 05, 2012, 05:29:16 PM
I messaged both of them with conflicting stories and BTC Guy immediately called me out on it. It was a test and he failed. I was watching profile active times and confirmed that the only way BTC Guy could have possibly known the information he provided me was if he had access to newdude's PMs via email alerts from the forum. He has been caught. This is just a warning. Deal with him at your own risk.
Post the PM's then  ::) Till I SEE proof of this, I'm not buying a word you say. If he is sloppy, IP logs will prove you correct. I've talked with both newdude and BTC Guy in PM's and never got the impression that they could have been the same person. Their attitude and language don't match up.


(Personally, I think you're NewDude, but thats just my gut feeling. I have absolutely nothing to back this statement up)


Title: Re: DISCOUNT AMAZON CODES FOR SALE 20% DISCOUNT, not!
Post by: BTC guy on April 05, 2012, 05:29:35 PM
Here is the very first PM i got from this bozo......


I purchased 3 $100 gift codes from newdude and I am now worried about using them on my amazon account.  I have checked the balances and they are still working.  After occulta's warning I am afraid to use them.  If you have no fear would you be interested in buying them?  I would sell all 3 for 28 BTC, or will sell them 1 at a time for 11 BTC each to get some of my money back.  I originally paid $70 each.  I would like to get more but do not want to be labeled a scammer if it turns out newdude is a scammer so I am willing to sell at that discount.  If you are interested send me the BTC 11 or 28 to 1DsDb9xaRNe7G9wS5kQogv18y1bgYCQM3E and I will send you the gift codes.  If not I will just keep looking or explore opening a dummy amazon account to use them.


Title: Re: DISCOUNT AMAZON CODES FOR SALE 20% DISCOUNT, not!
Post by: BTC guy on April 05, 2012, 05:31:44 PM
I welcome any mod to sniff around my account to see if they smell anything funny.


Title: Re: DISCOUNT AMAZON CODES FOR SALE 20% DISCOUNT, not!
Post by: John (John K.) on April 05, 2012, 05:37:04 PM
I messaged both of them with conflicting stories and BTC Guy immediately called me out on it. It was a test and he failed. I was watching profile active times and confirmed that the only way BTC Guy could have possibly known the information he provided me was if he had access to newdude's PMs via email alerts from the forum. He has been caught. This is just a warning. Deal with him at your own risk.
Post the PM's then  ::) Till I SEE proof of this, I'm not buying a word you say. If he is sloppy, IP logs will prove you correct. I've talked with both newdude and BTC Guy in PM's and never got the impression that they could have been the same person. Their attitude and language don't match up.
Personally, I think you're NewDude, but thats just my gut feeling. I have no way to know for sure.

+1 minus the newdude part.

At flip:

You are being vague, and btc guy's reply solidifies his argument. For what I see now, you are trying to get him send the coins first, which is frowned upon with no rep.


Title: Re: DISCOUNT AMAZON CODES FOR SALE 20% DISCOUNT, not!
Post by: DeathAndTaxes on April 05, 2012, 05:49:34 PM
I am not trying to get him to send me anything. I was testing a theory and I got what I was looking for. The make believe PM he typed up should not be believed. newdude = BTC Guy. You have been warned.

Flip making claims without proof is not a good idea.  Show your proof or stop making claims.

When you said they had the same IP address I figured you had some skill and put a tracking image in each of the PMs which was picked up by the same IP address.  Now it is obvious you have no skill.


Title: Re: DISCOUNT AMAZON CODES FOR SALE 20% DISCOUNT, not!
Post by: BTC guy on April 05, 2012, 05:53:47 PM
He's just mad he didnt get my coins. I bet he thought he had me with that amazing deal he offered me.


Title: Re: DISCOUNT AMAZON CODES FOR SALE 20% DISCOUNT, not!
Post by: jwzguy on April 05, 2012, 05:55:59 PM
flip just proved he deserves a scammer tag. He just posted and admitted he had no codes to sell, but asked for BTC first and provided an address. That's a scam by definition.


Title: Re: DISCOUNT AMAZON CODES FOR SALE 20% DISCOUNT, not!
Post by: newdude on April 05, 2012, 06:24:07 PM
Flip sent me this..,,,,,,,,
Amazon Gift Codes
« Sent to: newdude on: Today at 03:04:26 PM »
« You have forwarded or responded to this message. »
Quote  Reply  Delete 
I am still looking to buy a $100 gift code.  I will pay the $80 asking price and can pay with BTC or MtGox USD codes.  I just want to make sure the code works before payment.  If you are willing to send the code for verification purposes I won't actually apply it to my account until payment has been sent.  Deal?


Title: Re: DISCOUNT AMAZON CODES FOR SALE 20% DISCOUNT, not!
Post by: newdude on April 05, 2012, 06:35:56 PM
Amazon Transcript, Theymos you can now remove this user


You are now connected to Mani from Amazon.com.

Me:Fraudulently obtained GCs
Sorry, i was talking to someone and got disconnected

Mani:Hello, My name is Mani.
I'm sorry your previous chat got disconnected.
Can you elaborate your question, please?

Me:ok, i have reason to believe someone is either logging into peoples amazon accounts and buying GCs
or using stolen credit cards to buy them
as he is selling them for 25% loss
he posted codes as 'proof' that they are real, can you confirm they are all purchased from the same account?

Mani:Thanks so much for the details, John.
May I know any link or codes which are posed as "proof", please?

Me:yea
1 second
i will paste in 2 parts, as it maybe why i got disconnected before
VRXM-8NRE8N-2VYE
SV7P-XAPUHC-4WNF
8M4R-9XWTDM-MPRN
4ZG2-PJJ6ZF-8AZE
H7AS-ZR3FYF-4EYV
9SCH-QPXD3Y-E92Q
DWDN-H83DC3-N9M2
L4K7-S3NZXM-JLXT
98RA-A4RES8-HUG5
AD4S-6N6BRF-Y2GQ
SLVG-5WT835-JZTC
KTF5-CRXA6A-WUA5
GLPB-F3HJSX-G3NY
X5C5-8RR4FC-FDMK
LL49-R4FRCR-SHSJ
YHXX-BJQ8SL-UZYU
VJJP-KXYVNK-7QM5
29PQ-NPHUZ7-UU5R
WKNX-GEAC8U-W8KW
7N8K-AZ9ZXC-H339
YDYL-HWNYGV-Z3WR
3K7Q-UJKRLL-PK2V
NKWY-6ZT6RT-76EY
Q5M7-H39BZC-EMKJ
F4QE-B7TB45-6Z4L
W5VF-62JHW9-ZBJF
ZBRM-MADX65-XU39
EGTK-ARPMUM-FPFE
5VW8-GQR53S-9UBJ
67L7-X8XDTL-CX2W
E43Q-ECEA4S-JVW2
XL8U-GL8PAL-Y6GM
4SCA-YAZNYU-MR94
A973-EMTZGC-PPUG
BTN9-CFD2LA-ZNV2
P85R-ZFEH9W-MZNH
6UE5-D2D33P-P68F
they should all be purchased from the same amazon account.

Mani:Thanks.
I have checked on these codes and can confirm that the fraudulent activity has been prevented and we have taken right action.
I assure you that right action has been taken. However, due to account security reasons, I'm unable to provide more information.

Me:Ok, can you not tell me exactly what activity occured so i can report this to the admin of the forum ?

Mani:I'm very sorry, John. Due to account security reasons, I'm unable to provide more information about other accounts other than contacting customer's own account.

Me:Ok, no problem, what email can i use to give you the forum admins contact once he is online?

Mani:I understand your concern, John. From Amazon

Me:He told me to remove the thread he wants to be contacted by you.

Mani:*Amazon's perspective, I can confirm that necessary action has been taken and we assure you that necessary action has been taken. We are unable to contact the forum's admin. From our side, we have took strict action against this activity.



Guess this is the real reason he said he wont be back till the 29th haha!



Ok.
Lets see.....
If I indeed DID scam THESE codes and they WERE INDEED bought with a fraudulent credit card, then by default Haploids account WOULD be frozen and the value of the codes deducted from his account.
Has he come on here and said that has indeed happened?
No he hasnt.
You still are a dumb bitch.
No matter what you do, no matter what you say, you cant find 1 person to say I have scammed them or sold them 1 fraud code.
Id pay $1,000 the microsecond that you do.
When I come back with the $50,000 in codes, for 30% discount, I will own you.


Title: Re: DISCOUNT AMAZON CODES FOR SALE 20% DISCOUNT, not!
Post by: newdude on April 05, 2012, 06:38:45 PM
I am not trying to get him to send me anything. I was testing a theory and I got what I was looking for. The make believe PM he typed up should not be believed. newdude = BTC Guy. You have been warned.
Didnt you just private message me and ask me to go first in a transaction with you?
You are an idiot!
Amazon Gift Codes
« Sent to: newdude on: Today at 03:04:26 PM »
« You have forwarded or responded to this message. »
Quote  Reply  Delete 
"I am still looking to buy a $100 gift code.  I will pay the $80 asking price and can pay with BTC or MtGox USD codes.  I just want to make sure the code works before payment.  If you are willing to send the code for verification purposes I won't actually apply it to my account until payment has been sent.  Deal?"


Title: Re: DISCOUNT AMAZON CODES FOR SALE 20% DISCOUNT, not!
Post by: newdude on April 05, 2012, 06:43:19 PM
Here is the very first PM i got from this bozo......


I purchased 3 $100 gift codes from newdude and I am now worried about using them on my amazon account.  I have checked the balances and they are still working.  After occulta's warning I am afraid to use them.  If you have no fear would you be interested in buying them?  I would sell all 3 for 28 BTC, or will sell them 1 at a time for 11 BTC each to get some of my money back.  I originally paid $70 each.  I would like to get more but do not want to be labeled a scammer if it turns out newdude is a scammer so I am willing to sell at that discount.  If you are interested send me the BTC 11 or 28 to 1DsDb9xaRNe7G9wS5kQogv18y1bgYCQM3E and I will send you the gift codes.  If not I will just keep looking or explore opening a dummy amazon account to use them.
Ha ha!
This idiot "Flip" hasnt bought anything from me.
Anyone that wants to buy codes from me should already know that I am not selling any codes unitil April 29th, no matter how many they want to buy.


Title: Re: DISCOUNT AMAZON CODES FOR SALE 20% DISCOUNT, not!
Post by: newdude on April 05, 2012, 06:45:10 PM
This is him openly saying he will not give the GC codes, nor a refund. That's enough to be a scammer.



It might seem like there are a lot of back and forth messages, but only a few a day was exchanged, but since it unnecessarily dragged on for over a week, the messages added up.

  • If you look at hard facts, I paid him over a week ago, still haven’t received all codes yet, nor a refund. NOPE
  • He claims he gets codes almost every day, yet didn’t give me any of it. I do. And your ass wont get ANY OF IT.
  • He sells thousands to other people, yet can’t use incoming money to refund me. NOPE
  • Simply give me the GC codes, or a refund, that’s not too hard, and that’s the way it should be. NAH
  • If these simple facts are not enough, then dig a little deeper into his logic. Dealing with you is illogical. I said I owe you
  • Notice how there is no real content behind his words. Nope, I am a baseless bag of jibba jabba
  • Look at how much stalling he does. Its not stalling.
  • Ask him a real legitimate question and he won’t answer it and act hostile. This is true. I AM hostile.
  • He only makes $100 for every $5000 he sells, so discounting over 20% will put him into huge negatives. Why would you do this then? If you only had a brain. I do make money. If I didnt, I wouldn't sell them.
Yeah, I am a scammer. You keep thinking that.


Title: Re: DISCOUNT AMAZON CODES FOR SALE 20% DISCOUNT, not!
Post by: newdude on April 05, 2012, 06:46:31 PM
BTC Guy = newdude

Confirmed via PMs. He is not very bright either. Be careful.

Proof of reasoning? *brings stale popcorn from 2 pages ago out again*
Can I haz sum yo popcorn tu? This shit is regular comedy.


Title: Re: DISCOUNT AMAZON CODES FOR SALE 20% DISCOUNT, not!
Post by: DeathAndTaxes on April 05, 2012, 06:49:53 PM
Yeah, I am a scammer. You keep thinking that.

Even i the codes are 100% legit if you take payment and don't deliver you are a scammer and deserve the scammer tag.

You admit he paid you.
You admit you haven't given him a code.
You admit you haven't given him a refund.


Title: Re: DISCOUNT AMAZON CODES FOR SALE 20% DISCOUNT, not!
Post by: newdude on April 05, 2012, 06:56:05 PM
Yeah, I am a scammer. You keep thinking that.

Even i the codes are 100% legit if you take payment and don't deliver you are a scammer and deserve the scammer tag.

You admit he paid you.
You admit you haven't given him a code.
You admit you haven't given him a refund.

Then, by your definition I am indeed a scammer.
Remember, first he said I ran with his $1,000.
Then, when I came and said I owe him $570 or whatever it is, he changed his tune.
So do I owe him $1,000 or $570? Seems to be unclear on his part.
Ask mr victim.
The defense rests.


Title: Re: DISCOUNT AMAZON CODES FOR SALE 20% DISCOUNT, not!
Post by: rjk on April 05, 2012, 06:57:04 PM
Yeah, I am a scammer. You keep thinking that.

Even i the codes are 100% legit if you take payment and don't deliver you are a scammer and deserve the scammer tag.

You admit he paid you.
You admit you haven't given him a code.
You admit you haven't given him a refund.

Then, by your definition I am indeed a scammer.
You don't wish to rectify that?


Title: Re: DISCOUNT AMAZON CODES FOR SALE 20% DISCOUNT, not!
Post by: newdude on April 05, 2012, 06:58:34 PM
Yeah, I am a scammer. You keep thinking that.

Even i the codes are 100% legit if you take payment and don't deliver you are a scammer and deserve the scammer tag.

You admit he paid you.
You admit you haven't given him a code.
You admit you haven't given him a refund.

Then, by your definition I am indeed a scammer.
You don't wish to rectify that?
Remember, first he said I ran with his $1,000.
Then, when I came and said I owe him $570 or whatever it is, he changed his tune.
So do I owe him $1,000 or $570? Seems to be unclear on his part.
Ask mr victim.
The defense rests.


Title: Re: DISCOUNT AMAZON CODES FOR SALE 20% DISCOUNT, not!
Post by: jwzguy on April 05, 2012, 07:25:20 PM
Yeah, I am a scammer. You keep thinking that.

Even i the codes are 100% legit if you take payment and don't deliver you are a scammer and deserve the scammer tag.

You admit he paid you.
You admit you haven't given him a code.
You admit you haven't given him a refund.

Then, by your definition I am indeed a scammer.
You don't wish to rectify that?
Remember, first he said I ran with his $1,000.
Then, when I came and said I owe him $570 or whatever it is, he changed his tune.
So do I owe him $1,000 or $570? Seems to be unclear on his part.
Ask mr victim.
The defense rests.


Your defense has made a pretty shitty case if you're admitting you owe money to someone and won't pay them.


Title: Re: DISCOUNT AMAZON CODES FOR SALE 20% DISCOUNT, not!
Post by: newdude on April 05, 2012, 07:27:12 PM
Yeah, I am a scammer. You keep thinking that.

Even i the codes are 100% legit if you take payment and don't deliver you are a scammer and deserve the scammer tag.

You admit he paid you.
You admit you haven't given him a code.
You admit you haven't given him a refund.

Then, by your definition I am indeed a scammer.
You don't wish to rectify that?
Remember, first he said I ran with his $1,000.
Then, when I came and said I owe him $570 or whatever it is, he changed his tune.
So do I owe him $1,000 or $570? Seems to be unclear on his part.
Ask mr victim.
The defense rests.


Your defense has made a pretty shitty case if you're admitting you owe money to someone and won't pay them.
Do I owe him $1,000 or $570? He says I ran with his $1,000 MoneyPak.


Title: Re: DISCOUNT AMAZON CODES FOR SALE 20% DISCOUNT, not!
Post by: haploid23 on April 05, 2012, 07:50:01 PM
Yeah, I am a scammer. You keep thinking that.

Even i the codes are 100% legit if you take payment and don't deliver you are a scammer and deserve the scammer tag.

You admit he paid you.
You admit you haven't given him a code.
You admit you haven't given him a refund.

Then, by your definition I am indeed a scammer.
You don't wish to rectify that?
Remember, first he said I ran with his $1,000.
Then, when I came and said I owe him $570 or whatever it is, he changed his tune.
So do I owe him $1,000 or $570? Seems to be unclear on his part.
Ask mr victim.
The defense rests.

You have absolutely zero reasoning skills. Just look at how you phrase your sentences and respond to things.

I never said you ran with $1000, otherwise find a quote. Just so I can be as transparent as possible so everyone else knows what's going on, you only gave me partial codes, so you still need to refund me exactly $568.25. Is that clear enough for you??

Now stop avoiding this question: Seriously man, why are you not giving me my refund or the codes you owe me? Why are you dragging this on for over a week now? Just give me the damn GC codes you owe me, or a refund. I don't want my money held up like this.


Title: Re: DISCOUNT AMAZON CODES FOR SALE 20% DISCOUNT, not!
Post by: newdude on April 05, 2012, 07:52:20 PM
Yeah, I am a scammer. You keep thinking that.

Even i the codes are 100% legit if you take payment and don't deliver you are a scammer and deserve the scammer tag.

You admit he paid you.
You admit you haven't given him a code.
You admit you haven't given him a refund.

Then, by your definition I am indeed a scammer.
You don't wish to rectify that?
Remember, first he said I ran with his $1,000.
Then, when I came and said I owe him $570 or whatever it is, he changed his tune.
So do I owe him $1,000 or $570? Seems to be unclear on his part.
Ask mr victim.
The defense rests.

You have absolutely zero reasoning skills. Just look at how you phrase your sentences and respond to things.

I never said you ran with $1000, otherwise find a quote. Just so I can be as transparent as possible so everyone else knows what's going on, you only gave me partial codes, so you still need to refund me exactly $568.25. Is that clear enough for you??

Now stop avoiding this question: Seriously man,why are you not giving me my refund or the codes you owe me? Why are you dragging this on for over a week now? Just give me the damn GC codes you owe me, or a refund. I don't want my money held up like this.
Because first of all, you need to learn respect.
Secondly, you came on here and said I ran with $1,000 of YOUR money, when in fact, all I owe you is $570.
NOW you come and say I owe you $570.
I will pay you when I pay you. I already said that.


Title: Re: DISCOUNT AMAZON CODES FOR SALE 20% DISCOUNT, not!
Post by: rjk on April 05, 2012, 07:54:18 PM
Because first of all, you need to learn respect.
All I have to say to that is... holy cow. Do the same yourself.


Title: Re: DISCOUNT AMAZON CODES FOR SALE 20% DISCOUNT, not!
Post by: haploid23 on April 05, 2012, 08:07:51 PM
Because first of all, you need to learn respect.
Secondly, you came on here and said I ran with $1,000 of YOUR money, when in fact, all I owe you is $570.
NOW you come and say I owe you $570.
I will pay you when I pay you. I already said that.
1) Respect.... the worst thing I said to you was "this is really like trying to argue with a rock". Now go back to our email convo, and count how many times you went on rampage swearing at me. So in your head, I'm disrespectful, and that makes it perfectly ok to not give me the GC codes I already paid for, or a refund? Wow.

2) I said quote me where I said you ran with all $1000, and that you need to pay back all $1000. That's right, you couldn't find a quote, so instead you just repeat yourself.

3) So you're going to pay me back whenever you feel like it? A week? A month? Year? It's my money, I already said I don't want it held up like that. Apparently you get thousands of dollars paid by your "other" customers, so use that money to refund me. You also went to the bank a few days ago to deposit money for the refund, where is it?


Title: Re: DISCOUNT AMAZON CODES FOR SALE 20% DISCOUNT, not!
Post by: newdude on April 05, 2012, 10:14:45 PM
You should take 2 things from this thread.

1) newdude is a scammer
2) BTC Guy = newdude

1. You begging like a bitch for coins, then trying to say you bought from me.
Amazon Gift Codes

« Sent to: newdude on: Today at 03:04:26 PM »
« You have forwarded or responded to this message. »
Quote  Reply  Delete  
I am still looking to buy a $100 gift code.  I will pay the $80 asking price and can pay with BTC or MtGox USD codes.  I just want to make sure the code works before payment.  If you are willing to send the code for verification purposes I won't actually apply it to my account until payment has been sent.  Deal?
You dumb ass, how the hell are you going to "Verify" the code and NOT apply it to your account? You dumb ass noob.

2. You are a noob.

3. Yeah, BTC Guy and NewDude are the same person. Righttttttttt.


Title: Re: DISCOUNT AMAZON CODES FOR SALE 20% DISCOUNT, not!
Post by: JWU42 on April 06, 2012, 12:29:37 AM
This is unreal...


Title: Re: DISCOUNT AMAZON CODES FOR SALE 20% DISCOUNT, not!
Post by: BTC guy on April 06, 2012, 01:11:17 AM
I regret getting involved   :D


Title: Re: DISCOUNT AMAZON CODES FOR SALE 20% DISCOUNT, not!
Post by: John (John K.) on April 06, 2012, 01:35:52 AM
tl;dr version of my replies to each:

flip:
Unless you have more proof, just shut up and gtfo as I consider you a failed scammer who's trying to make another quick buck.

newdude:
Just repay him what you owe haploid. Why the waiting?


Title: Re: DISCOUNT AMAZON CODES FOR SALE 20% DISCOUNT, not!
Post by: Maged on April 06, 2012, 02:39:20 AM
Because first of all, you need to learn respect.
Secondly, you came on here and said I ran with $1,000 of YOUR money, when in fact, all I owe you is $570.
NOW you come and say I owe you $570.
I will pay you when I pay you. I already said that.
Look, we've seen this before. Matthew made the same mistake that you are currently making when he made his account here. We don't care how terribly the other party is acting. He could be a serial killer for all we care. What matters is that you owe him money and you're not paying up. He will get what's coming to him next time he tries making a deal if you really do believe that he is mistreating you.


Title: Re: DISCOUNT AMAZON CODES FOR SALE 20% DISCOUNT, not!
Post by: haploid23 on April 06, 2012, 07:16:14 AM
Look, we've seen this before. Matthew made the same mistake that you are currently making when he made his account here. We don't care how terribly the other party is acting. He could be a serial killer for all we care. What matters is that you owe him money and you're not paying up. He will get what's coming to him next time he tries making a deal if you really do believe that he is mistreating you.
Maged, go read the actual quote of the convo I had with him HERE (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=74747.msg836403#msg836403) and you won't see one part where I was disrespectful. Worst I ever said was that I'm arguing with a rock. And now note how many times he went off to swear and curse at me, while still owing me GC codes or money. He ironically brought "respect" into this, and actually used that as an excuse to not give me what he owes.

He already admit he owes me, but will not give the refund or the GC codes. This guy's level of logical reasoning skills is not something I can argue with, it's pointless. Mods, please give him an ultimatum, there is nothing else I can do.


Title: Re: DISCOUNT AMAZON CODES FOR SALE 20% DISCOUNT, not!
Post by: occulta on April 06, 2012, 11:14:41 AM
This thread is still running with the proof i posted??????

If anyone has doubts about my transcript, then contact amazon about the codes yourself. They told me the activity has been flagged and they are investigating it.

..........
BTN9-CFD2LA-ZNV2
P85R-ZFEH9W-MZNH
6UE5-D2D33P-P68F
they should all be purchased from the same amazon account.

Mani:Thanks.
I have checked on these codes and can confirm that the fraudulent activity has been prevented and we have taken right action.
I assure you that right action has been taken. However, due to account security reasons, I'm unable to provide more information.

Me:Ok, can you not tell me exactly what activity occured so i can report this to the admin of the forum ?

Mani:I'm very sorry, John. Due to account security reasons, I'm unable to provide more information about other accounts other than contacting customer's own account.

Me:Ok, no problem, what email can i use to give you the forum admins contact once he is online?



Apparently nobody moderates this forum, its not giving off good impressions is it


Title: Re: DISCOUNT AMAZON CODES FOR SALE 20% DISCOUNT, not!
Post by: BadBear on April 06, 2012, 02:03:45 PM
This thread is still running with the proof i posted?


What do you mean still running? We aren't gonna lock the thread, that would be dumb. There may be people out there with information to provide, and it leaves a channel of communication open between him and his customers, and has all the information people need to know right here. He's already said he's going to repay, and if he really does have more coming in it would be kinda dumb to lose out on all that profit for a few hundred bucks.

As for him and Amazon, that's between him and Amazon. This is just a forum, we aren't the cops.


Title: Re: DISCOUNT AMAZON CODES FOR SALE 20% DISCOUNT, not!
Post by: occulta on April 06, 2012, 05:45:47 PM
This thread is still running with the proof i posted?


What do you mean still running? We aren't gonna lock the thread, that would be dumb. There may be people out there with information to provide, and it leaves a channel of communication open between him and his customers, and has all the information people need to know right here. He's already said he's going to repay, and if he really does have more coming in it would be kinda dumb to lose out on all that profit for a few hundred bucks.

As for him and Amazon, that's between him and Amazon. This is just a forum, we aren't the cops.


Im sorry but that is just bullshit, this thread should be locked and the user banned from the forum (he shouldnt have customers to talk with). He is using other peoples amazon accounts or other peoples CCs, what is there to discuss? Nobody should be allowed to do this on a public forum and get away with it... Amazon cant do anything against him, unless he slipped up with making himself traceable, which i doubt he did. I know bitcoin is associated with crime, but i didnt think this was silk road.


Title: Re: DISCOUNT AMAZON CODES FOR SALE 20% DISCOUNT, not!
Post by: gamer4156 on April 06, 2012, 06:12:33 PM
They didnt say that it was 100% fraudulent. All they said is that they have presented this information to the appropriate figures. Now if people start showing up saying they are in trouble with purchased codes, then yes lock this shit down. But we still havent seen 1 person actually provide proof that the codes are bad. Not paying that guy back is an entirely different matter.

Edit: The fact that you are the number one person screaming for a ban and he is your competition does not look good. To me it seems like you are just mad that he is here. Also if we want to get into this whole legitimacy question, have you ever proved yours? Why would someone take 10% off of money earned for an "affiliate program", when you can have 100% in a direct deposit. So you must be up to something as well. Either tax evasion or you are in fact getting yours illegitimately.

Edit: Last edit before someone puts 2 and 2 together.
New Dude= BTC Guy= Gamer4156


Title: Re: DISCOUNT AMAZON CODES FOR SALE 20% DISCOUNT, not!
Post by: BadBear on April 06, 2012, 06:17:08 PM
Im sorry but that is just bullshit, this thread should be locked and the user banned from the forum (he shouldnt have customers to talk with). He is using other peoples amazon accounts or other peoples CCs, what is there to discuss? Nobody should be allowed to do this on a public forum and get away with it... Amazon cant do anything against him, unless he slipped up with making himself traceable, which i doubt he did. I know bitcoin is associated with crime, but i didnt think this was silk road.

He has outstanding debts, silencing and banishing him wouldn't exactly speed up the repayment process. Doing that would pretty much guarantee he won't pay what he owes. Scammer tag until that is actually done is a reasonable request though.

 My Edit: Just to be clear so we can stop this debate before it starts, he won't be banned (for this anyway). If you want to discuss that particular policy take it elsewhere, I don't want to have to sift through 5 pages of arguing about whether he should be banned to see what the guy has to say about his debts.


Title: Re: DISCOUNT AMAZON CODES FOR SALE 20% DISCOUNT, not!
Post by: BTC guy on April 06, 2012, 06:41:39 PM
LOL why bring me in to this again?

Anyways, i must admit, i think occulta is over stepping his place and sticking his nose where it doesnt belong. Almost like he is trying to ruin newdudes rep. He sent me several PM's trying to convince me newdude was no good. I also noticed he was giving Eisenhower34 a hard time too saying he was copying him. Occulta seems like a very jealous person who does not like competition. Eisenhower34 was smart enough to keep a cool head and be diplomatic. Newdude doesnt have the people skills and blows up when pressed. But that doesnt mean he is scam. He just doesnt present himself very well. He has admitted he owes haploid and says he will take care of it. But i dont see that happening if people continue to bad mouth him. If he has no friends here and he cant do business cause of bad rep he will just disappear and poor haploid will get burned.


Title: Re: DISCOUNT AMAZON CODES FOR SALE 20% DISCOUNT, not!
Post by: Maged on April 06, 2012, 07:10:03 PM
Newdude doesnt have the people skills and blows up when pressed. But that doesnt mean he is scam. He just doesnt present himself very well. He has admitted he owes haploid and says he will take care of it. But i dont see that happening if everybody continues to bad mouth him. If he has no friends here he will just disappear and poor haploid will get burned.
This. He reminds me entirely of Matthew. I wouldn't give up on him, yet.

Look, we've seen this before. Matthew made the same mistake that you are currently making when he made his account here. We don't care how terribly the other party is acting. He could be a serial killer for all we care. What matters is that you owe him money and you're not paying up. He will get what's coming to him next time he tries making a deal if you really do believe that he is mistreating you.
Maged, go read the actual quote of the convo I had with him HERE (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=74747.msg836403#msg836403) and you won't see one part where I was disrespectful. Worst I ever said was that I'm arguing with a rock. And now note how many times he went off to swear and curse at me, while still owing me GC codes or money. He ironically brought "respect" into this, and actually used that as an excuse to not give me what he owes.

He already admit he owes me, but will not give the refund or the GC codes. This guy's level of logical reasoning skills is not something I can argue with, it's pointless. Mods, please give him an ultimatum, there is nothing else I can do.
No offense, but just STFU. We're just trying to get you your money back. I'll only consider what you have to say once it's clear that that won't happen.


Title: Re: DISCOUNT AMAZON CODES FOR SALE 20% DISCOUNT, not!
Post by: gamer4156 on April 06, 2012, 07:19:06 PM
I talked to newdude on the phone for about an hour yesterday, and he has full intentions of paying you back. He is just upset because he comes here with a service that everyone makes money on and People just jumped on the  "scammer" bandwagon with zero proof, that would tick me off as well.


Title: Re: DISCOUNT AMAZON CODES FOR SALE 20% DISCOUNT, not!
Post by: BTC guy on April 06, 2012, 07:29:58 PM
I PM'd newdude looking for codes yesterday. He told me he would take care of haploid but he was mad at him for calling him scam so he is gonna make him wait. Kinda like he wants to show him who is in control. He said he will return on the 29th with more codes. Maybe his attitude is fuck this guy im not gonna refund him im gonna make him wait till i get more codes. He also offered me his number twice and told me to call him. Kinda like he wanted to discuss things and clear his name. I never did call him cause to be honest i dont want to get sucked in to this shit storm any more than i already am.


Title: Re: DISCOUNT AMAZON CODES FOR SALE 20% DISCOUNT, not!
Post by: BTC guy on April 06, 2012, 08:03:59 PM
I want codes so after thinking about it i decided to call him. He sounds just as lovely on the phone as he does in the forum. I told him it was BTC guy and i was looking for codes. He was quick to say he doesnt mess with this forum no more and he hung up. I sent him a text saying fuck the forum i want codes. He responded saying he will sell me a $1000 code for $700 and i have to go first. He had told me in PM he will go first since i have rep. Now he says i go first or no sale. After hearing him speak i would not bet he will come back or repay haploid.


Title: Re: DISCOUNT AMAZON CODES FOR SALE 20% DISCOUNT, not!
Post by: gamer4156 on April 06, 2012, 09:50:29 PM
I want codes so after thinking about it i decided to call him. He sounds just as lovely on the phone as he does in the forum. I told him it was BTC guy and i was looking for codes. He was quick to say he doesnt mess with this forum no more and he hung up. I sent him a text saying fuck the forum i want codes. He responded saying he will sell me a $1000 code for $700 and i have to go first. He had told me in PM he will go first since i have rep. Now he says i go first or no sale. After hearing him speak i would not bet he will come back or repay haploid.

Would you want anything to do with these forums after what people have said and done? He tried to bring a legitimate business and was chased away by a jealous competitor. I do hope he does payback what he owes.


Title: Re: DISCOUNT AMAZON CODES FOR SALE 20% DISCOUNT, not!
Post by: BTC guy on April 06, 2012, 10:05:48 PM
Yes. There is money to be made here. I went through the same thing as newdude. My very first sale here was a stack of 5850's. I had no rep. I refused escrow. I refused paypal. Nobody believed in me. Tons of people called me scam. I didnt flip out and act like a nub. I stuck it out and here i am. Most new sellers here will be questioned. How you handle it is what matters. Newdude couldnt handle it. He cracked under pressure and made things worse for himself. Sure occulta started this but newdude is the only one responsible for how this turned out.


Title: Re: DISCOUNT AMAZON CODES FOR SALE 20% DISCOUNT, not!
Post by: newdude on April 06, 2012, 11:16:52 PM
LOL why bring me in to this again?

Anyways, i must admit, i think occulta is over stepping his place and sticking his nose where it doesnt belong. Almost like he is trying to ruin newdudes rep. He sent me several PM's trying to convince me newdude was no good. I also noticed he was giving Eisenhower34 a hard time too saying he was copying him. Occulta seems like a very jealous person who does not like competition. Eisenhower34 was smart enough to keep a cool head and be diplomatic. Newdude doesnt have the people skills and blows up when pressed. But that doesnt mean he is scam. He just doesnt present himself very well. He has admitted he owes haploid and says he will take care of it. But i dont see that happening if people continue to bad mouth him. If he has no friends here and he cant do business cause of bad rep he will just disappear and poor haploid will get burned.
Plus +1


Title: Re: DISCOUNT AMAZON CODES FOR SALE 20% DISCOUNT, not!
Post by: newdude on April 06, 2012, 11:18:19 PM
Yes. There is money to be made here. I went through the same thing as newdude. My very first sale here was a stack of 5850's. I had no rep. I refused escrow. I refused paypal. Nobody believed in me. Tons of people called me scam. I didnt flip out and act like a nub. I stuck it out and here i am. Most new sellers here will be questioned. How you handle it is what matters. Newdude couldnt handle it. He cracked under pressure and made things worse for himself. Sure occulta started this but newdude is the only one responsible for how this turned out.
First of all, I havent cracked under any pressure.
2ndly, I am way too busy everyday to even care about this shit. Call me a scammer, what do I care.


Title: Re: DISCOUNT AMAZON CODES FOR SALE 20% DISCOUNT, not!
Post by: newdude on April 06, 2012, 11:19:26 PM
I want codes so after thinking about it i decided to call him. He sounds just as lovely on the phone as he does in the forum. I told him it was BTC guy and i was looking for codes. He was quick to say he doesnt mess with this forum no more and he hung up. I sent him a text saying fuck the forum i want codes. He responded saying he will sell me a $1000 code for $700 and i have to go first. He had told me in PM he will go first since i have rep. Now he says i go first or no sale. After hearing him speak i would not bet he will come back or repay haploid.

Would you want anything to do with these forums after what people have said and done? He tried to bring a legitimate business and was chased away by a jealous competitor. I do hope he does payback what he owes.
YOU ALL NEED TO READ THIS!
Remember what I told you on the phone, I will stand by everything I said.


Title: Re: DISCOUNT AMAZON CODES FOR SALE 20% DISCOUNT, not!
Post by: newdude on April 06, 2012, 11:20:28 PM
Newdude doesnt have the people skills and blows up when pressed. But that doesnt mean he is scam. He just doesnt present himself very well. He has admitted he owes haploid and says he will take care of it. But i dont see that happening if everybody continues to bad mouth him. If he has no friends here he will just disappear and poor haploid will get burned.
This. He reminds me entirely of Matthew. I wouldn't give up on him, yet.

Look, we've seen this before. Matthew made the same mistake that you are currently making when he made his account here. We don't care how terribly the other party is acting. He could be a serial killer for all we care. What matters is that you owe him money and you're not paying up. He will get what's coming to him next time he tries making a deal if you really do believe that he is mistreating you.
Maged, go read the actual quote of the convo I had with him HERE (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=74747.msg836403#msg836403) and you won't see one part where I was disrespectful. Worst I ever said was that I'm arguing with a rock. And now note how many times he went off to swear and curse at me, while still owing me GC codes or money. He ironically brought "respect" into this, and actually used that as an excuse to not give me what he owes.

He already admit he owes me, but will not give the refund or the GC codes. This guy's level of logical reasoning skills is not something I can argue with, it's pointless. Mods, please give him an ultimatum, there is nothing else I can do.
No offense, but just STFU. We're just trying to get you your money back. I'll only consider what you have to say once it's clear that that won't happen.
Listen to this guy!!!!


Title: Re: DISCOUNT AMAZON CODES FOR SALE 20% DISCOUNT, not!
Post by: BTC guy on April 06, 2012, 11:21:56 PM
I never called you a scammer. I just think you could have handled this better.


Title: Re: DISCOUNT AMAZON CODES FOR SALE 20% DISCOUNT, not!
Post by: DeathAndTaxes on April 06, 2012, 11:26:26 PM
I'll call him a scammer.

If you take someone's money and don't deliver the product and don't give a refund you are a damn scammer and a thief.

Pure and simple.  Getting your feelings hurt is not sufficient reason to keep someone else's money you haven't earned.  Period.  I don't care if his customer cursed him out to his face and make jokes about his children.  If you take someone else's money and intentionally neither return the money nor deliver what is promised you are a thief and a scammer.


Title: Re: DISCOUNT AMAZON CODES FOR SALE 20% DISCOUNT, not!
Post by: newdude on April 06, 2012, 11:43:22 PM
I'll call him a scammer.

If you take someone's money and don't deliver the product and don't give a refund you are a damn scammer and a thief.

Pure and simple.  Getting your feelings hurt is not sufficient reason to keep someone else's money you haven't earned.  Period.  I don't care if his customer cursed him out to his face and make jokes about his children.  If you take someone else's money and intentionally neither return the money nor deliver what is promised you are a thief and a scammer.
Then a scammer I am.
You can go ahead and ban me now.
What the hell do I care.


Title: Re: DISCOUNT AMAZON CODES FOR SALE 20% DISCOUNT, not!
Post by: newdude on April 06, 2012, 11:45:09 PM
I never called you a scammer. I just think you could have handled this better.
Am I a romantic poet?
Do I mince words? Nope.
And for the 150th time, why do YOU continue to ask me EVERYDAY to sell you codes when I told you that I am not selling anything on here for 30 days, yet you continue to ask me?


Title: Re: DISCOUNT AMAZON CODES FOR SALE 20% DISCOUNT, not!
Post by: gamer4156 on April 06, 2012, 11:45:30 PM
I'll call him a scammer.

If you take someone's money and don't deliver the product and don't give a refund you are a damn scammer and a thief.

Pure and simple.  Getting your feelings hurt is not sufficient reason to keep someone else's money you haven't earned.  Period.  I don't care if his customer cursed him out to his face and make jokes about his children.  If you take someone else's money and intentionally neither return the money nor deliver what is promised you are a thief and a scammer.

No one is arguing against you, we all agree that any money owed should be returned. If not then that is a scam.


Title: Re: DISCOUNT AMAZON CODES FOR SALE 20% DISCOUNT, not!
Post by: newdude on April 06, 2012, 11:48:06 PM
This thread is still running with the proof i posted?


What do you mean still running? We aren't gonna lock the thread, that would be dumb. There may be people out there with information to provide, and it leaves a channel of communication open between him and his customers, and has all the information people need to know right here. He's already said he's going to repay, and if he really does have more coming in it would be kinda dumb to lose out on all that profit for a few hundred bucks.

As for him and Amazon, that's between him and Amazon. This is just a forum, we aren't the cops.


MY POINT EXACTLY!!!!!!!
Listen to this guy, numbnuts!!!
Would I really miss out on the money/btc to be made, all over $570???????????????


Title: Re: DISCOUNT AMAZON CODES FOR SALE 20% DISCOUNT, not!
Post by: newdude on April 06, 2012, 11:49:31 PM
I'll call him a scammer.

If you take someone's money and don't deliver the product and don't give a refund you are a damn scammer and a thief.

Pure and simple.  Getting your feelings hurt is not sufficient reason to keep someone else's money you haven't earned.  Period.  I don't care if his customer cursed him out to his face and make jokes about his children.  If you take someone else's money and intentionally neither return the money nor deliver what is promised you are a thief and a scammer.

No one is arguing against you, we all agree that any money owed should be returned. If not then that is a scam.
Then by default, a scam I am.


Title: Re: DISCOUNT AMAZON CODES FOR SALE 20% DISCOUNT, not!
Post by: BTC guy on April 06, 2012, 11:51:17 PM
I think your bipolar newdude. You should talk to a doctor about meds.


Title: Re: DISCOUNT AMAZON CODES FOR SALE 20% DISCOUNT, not!
Post by: gamer4156 on April 06, 2012, 11:51:44 PM
I'll call him a scammer.

If you take someone's money and don't deliver the product and don't give a refund you are a damn scammer and a thief.

Pure and simple.  Getting your feelings hurt is not sufficient reason to keep someone else's money you haven't earned.  Period.  I don't care if his customer cursed him out to his face and make jokes about his children.  If you take someone else's money and intentionally neither return the money nor deliver what is promised you are a thief and a scammer.

No one is arguing against you, we all agree that any money owed should be returned. If not then that is a scam.
Then by default, a scam I am.

So your not going to pay back what you owe?


Title: Re: DISCOUNT AMAZON CODES FOR SALE 20% DISCOUNT, not!
Post by: JWU42 on April 07, 2012, 12:10:27 AM
Found this kinda appropriate

http://pedant.artoflivin.sk/wp-content/uploads/dickwad.png

Why keep this up when you can end it by sending money you have said you owe him?

Maybe it is too far gone by now...


Title: Re: DISCOUNT AMAZON CODES FOR SALE 20% DISCOUNT, not!
Post by: BTC guy on April 07, 2012, 12:13:40 AM
Mental illness. He is up and down and all over the place. He needs meds and love.


Title: Re: DISCOUNT AMAZON CODES FOR SALE 20% DISCOUNT, not!
Post by: John (John K.) on April 07, 2012, 01:57:17 AM
Found this kinda appropriate

http://pedant.artoflivin.sk/wp-content/uploads/dickwad.png

Why keep this up when you can end it by sending money you have said you owe him?

Maybe it is too far gone by now...
LOL +1.
@newdude:
Just pay him back and settle this whole business. No use wasting time over this.


Title: Re: DISCOUNT AMAZON CODES FOR SALE 20% DISCOUNT, not!
Post by: newdude on April 07, 2012, 02:11:05 AM
Found this kinda appropriate

http://pedant.artoflivin.sk/wp-content/uploads/dickwad.png

Why keep this up when you can end it by sending money you have said you owe him?

Maybe it is too far gone by now...
LOL +1.
@newdude:
Just pay him back and settle this whole business. No use wasting time over this.

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Title: Re: DISCOUNT AMAZON CODES FOR SALE 20% DISCOUNT, not!
Post by: newdude on April 07, 2012, 02:41:11 AM
I'll call him a scammer.

If you take someone's money and don't deliver the product and don't give a refund you are a damn scammer and a thief.

Pure and simple.  Getting your feelings hurt is not sufficient reason to keep someone else's money you haven't earned.  Period.  I don't care if his customer cursed him out to his face and make jokes about his children.  If you take someone else's money and intentionally neither return the money nor deliver what is promised you are a thief and a scammer.

No one is arguing against you, we all agree that any money owed should be returned. If not then that is a scam.

http://img40.imageshack.us/img40/9099/4f3ba4f355d044b79114325.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/40/4f3ba4f355d044b79114325.jpg/)

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Title: Re: DISCOUNT AMAZON CODES FOR SALE 20% DISCOUNT, not!
Post by: newdude on April 07, 2012, 02:47:56 AM
I want codes so after thinking about it i decided to call him. He sounds just as lovely on the phone as he does in the forum. I told him it was BTC guy and i was looking for codes. He was quick to say he doesnt mess with this forum no more and he hung up. I sent him a text saying fuck the forum i want codes. He responded saying he will sell me a $1000 code for $700 and i have to go first. He had told me in PM he will go first since i have rep. Now he says i go first or no sale. After hearing him speak i would not bet he will come back or repay haploid.
Yeah, texting me "Fuck the fourm, I want codes" will make me a sweet gentle person.
I told your ass I am not selling anything to anyone on this forum anyway.
So why keep asking me.
If I do sell, it wont be until April 29th.
Lets see them call me a scammer when I come back with a 30% discount.
And I STILL will make money.
Thats IF I come back on that date....:P
Ok, I will come back.
Turdburgulars.


Title: Re: DISCOUNT AMAZON CODES FOR SALE 20% DISCOUNT, not!
Post by: Maged on April 07, 2012, 02:50:09 AM
Ok, I will come back.
Turdburgulars.

Well, I for one hope that you do, and I wish you luck.


Title: Re: DISCOUNT AMAZON CODES FOR SALE 20% DISCOUNT, not!
Post by: newdude on April 07, 2012, 02:50:44 AM
tl;dr version of my replies to each:

flip:
Unless you have more proof, just shut up and gtfo as I consider you a failed scammer who's trying to make another quick buck.

newdude:
Just repay him what you owe haploid. Why the waiting?

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Title: Re: DISCOUNT AMAZON CODES FOR SALE 20% DISCOUNT, not!
Post by: Pipesnake on April 07, 2012, 03:00:08 AM
Subscribing to watch the shitstorm that ensues when this whole thing blows up in everyone's face.  There are no legitimate Amazon codes at 10-30% off.  Sorry.


Title: Re: DISCOUNT AMAZON CODES FOR SALE 20% DISCOUNT, not!
Post by: Maged on April 07, 2012, 03:04:43 AM
Subscribing to watch the shitstorm that ensues when this whole thing blows up in everyone's face.  There are no legitimate Amazon codes at 10-30% off.  Sorry.
When it comes to Bitcoin, you'd be surprised how much you can save legitimately.


Title: Re: DISCOUNT AMAZON CODES FOR SALE 20% DISCOUNT, not!
Post by: BTC guy on April 07, 2012, 03:23:57 PM
You are so bipolar newdude. Your story changes every few hours just like your avatar. First your coming back in 30 days with more codes. Then you hate this forum and your never coming back. Then you PM me offer me your number and tell me you will sell me codes and go first if i call you. I call you and you hang up on me after saying your done with this forum and your not selling codes. After i send you a text you tell me you will sell me a $1000 code for $700 if i go first. Regardless of what words you have had with other people, just based off what few words i have had with you i think your full of shit and desperate for attention.


Title: Re: DISCOUNT AMAZON CODES FOR SALE 20% DISCOUNT, not!
Post by: newdude on April 07, 2012, 03:41:12 PM
You are so bipolar newdude. Your story changes every few hours just like your avatar. First your coming back in 30 days with more codes. Then you hate this forum and your never coming back. Then you PM me offer me your number and tell me you will sell me codes and go first if i call you. I call you and you hang up on me after saying your done with this forum and your not selling codes. After i send you a text you tell me you will sell me a $1000 code for $700 if i go first. Regardless of what words you have had with other people, just based off what few words i have had with you i think your full of shit and desperate for attention.
Yet, you continue to private message me EVERYDAY and ask me to sell you codes.
When I was ready to sell your ass a code, you didnt call me.
Then, when you do call me, nothing was for sale.
So you need to make like a tree and get the hell out of here. I think I messed up that joke.


Title: Re: DISCOUNT AMAZON CODES FOR SALE 20% DISCOUNT, not!
Post by: BTC guy on April 07, 2012, 03:42:41 PM
Its cool bro. I know your sick. Im not mad at you. I wish you luck.


Title: Re: DISCOUNT AMAZON CODES FOR SALE 20% DISCOUNT, not!
Post by: BTC guy on April 07, 2012, 03:44:54 PM
Then, when you do call me, nothing was for sale.

If you had no codes when i called why did you try to sell me a $1000 code for $700?


Title: Re: DISCOUNT AMAZON CODES FOR SALE 20% DISCOUNT, not!
Post by: newdude on April 07, 2012, 04:01:28 PM
Then, when you do call me, nothing was for sale.

If you had no codes when i called why did you try to sell me a $1000 code for $700?
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You are a dumbass. I sent you my phone number the day before. You said on here "Why do you want me to call you, I want codes". Then, you called me the next day. While you were bullshitting around, those codes were sold. You continue to say I am full of shit, yet, you continue to badger me everyday asking me for codes.
Those in the know, know that I DO have codes.


Title: Re: DISCOUNT AMAZON CODES FOR SALE 20% DISCOUNT, not!
Post by: BTC guy on April 07, 2012, 04:07:31 PM
Yet you offered me a code the day i called when you admit you had none. Go ahead and be honest for once, you tried to rip me off just like you did haploid.


Title: Re: DISCOUNT AMAZON CODES FOR SALE 20% DISCOUNT, not!
Post by: fabrizziop on April 07, 2012, 05:06:19 PM
Then, when you do call me, nothing was for sale.

If you had no codes when i called why did you try to sell me a $1000 code for $700?
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You are a dumbass. I sent you my phone number the day before. You said on here "Why do you want me to call you, I want codes". Then, you called me the next day. While you were bullshitting around, those codes were sold. You continue to say I am full of shit, yet, you continue to badger me everyday asking me for codes.
Those in the know, know that I DO have codes.


You're such an unprofessional seller, and racist too. I can't figure how can someone try to buy from you when they see the kind of stuff that you write in a forum, specially in a sale post. Even if you offered me 50% discount on the codes(and they were legit) I wouldn't buy from you. And you're still actively denying that you need to pay haploid23 his 568.25$.

This is like McDonalds when the employees are upset. They treat you like a dog, but you still buy from them.


Title: Re: DISCOUNT AMAZON CODES FOR SALE 20% DISCOUNT, not!
Post by: Fiyasko on April 07, 2012, 05:09:22 PM
IDC i want cheap amazon gift codes. come back soon newdude i will buy from you.     ;D
You dont understand it do you... If the codes are carded, then you are GIVING HIM YOUR MONEY because amazon is going to Smack your account into negatives and demand the money back.


Title: Re: DISCOUNT AMAZON CODES FOR SALE 20% DISCOUNT, not!
Post by: BTC guy on April 07, 2012, 05:17:46 PM
I dont care if he acts like an idiot if he has what i want i will look past it.

I will not use his codes on my account. I will create another with less than accurate information. I will not link a credit card. I will spend the money before i pay for the code.


Title: Re: DISCOUNT AMAZON CODES FOR SALE 20% DISCOUNT, not!
Post by: newdude on April 07, 2012, 06:46:29 PM
Yet you offered me a code the day i called when you admit you had none. Go ahead and be honest for once, you tried to rip me off just like you did haploid.
You ARE retarded. I havent tried to rip off anyone. I dont think so.
When you DID call me, I told you $1,000 in codes for $700, YOU first. You said NO, so then no deal. End of story.
If you read my other posts when I was selling, I wouldnt have sent you $1,000 in codes first anyway. The most YOU would have gotten first would be $25.


Title: Re: DISCOUNT AMAZON CODES FOR SALE 20% DISCOUNT, not!
Post by: BTC guy on April 07, 2012, 06:50:02 PM
You told me in a PM you would go first. I will never buy from you if i have to go first. And i can confidently say nobody here will either.


Title: Re: DISCOUNT AMAZON CODES FOR SALE 20% DISCOUNT, not!
Post by: newdude on April 07, 2012, 06:52:17 PM
Then, when you do call me, nothing was for sale.

If you had no codes when i called why did you try to sell me a $1000 code for $700?
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You are a dumbass. I sent you my phone number the day before. You said on here "Why do you want me to call you, I want codes". Then, you called me the next day. While you were bullshitting around, those codes were sold. You continue to say I am full of shit, yet, you continue to badger me everyday asking me for codes.
Those in the know, know that I DO have codes.


You're such an unprofessional seller, and racist too. I can't figure how can someone try to buy from you when they see the kind of stuff that you write in a forum, specially in a sale post. Even if you offered me 50% discount on the codes(and they were legit) I wouldn't buy from you. And you're still actively denying that you need to pay haploid23 his 568.25$.

This is like McDonalds when the employees are upset. They treat you like a dog, but you still buy from them.
Blah blah blah.
Yeah, I am a racist. You keep thinking that. I am black, white and Filipino.
I havent actively denied ANYTHING.
I am not selling anything on here anyway. Not until April 29th.

I DONT want your business. Go buy from Occulta. Oh, thats right, he has a contract for the next 2 months to sell to a private buyer.
What it boils down to is a bunch of idiots who put their 2 cents in on something that doesnt have anything to do with them.
Those whos opinion actually matters know what I am doing with Haploid.
Haploid WILL get his $570. I never said I wont repay him.
Those in the know, already know.


Title: Re: DISCOUNT AMAZON CODES FOR SALE 20% DISCOUNT, not!
Post by: newdude on April 07, 2012, 06:54:02 PM
You told me in a PM you would go first. I will never buy from you if i have to go first. And i can confidently say nobody here will either.

The most I would have sent YOU upfront would be $25
I am not selling anything anyway!!!!!!
DONT PM me asking me to sell you codes!!!!
Its that simple!!!!!
Damn!


Title: Re: DISCOUNT AMAZON CODES FOR SALE 20% DISCOUNT, not!
Post by: BTC guy on April 07, 2012, 06:57:06 PM
I wont PM you again. I dont trust you and i will NEVER send you coins first.


Title: Re: DISCOUNT AMAZON CODES FOR SALE 20% DISCOUNT, not!
Post by: newdude on April 07, 2012, 06:57:13 PM
IDC i want cheap amazon gift codes. come back soon newdude i will buy from you.     ;D
You dont understand it do you... If the codes are carded, then you are GIVING HIM YOUR MONEY because amazon is going to Smack your account into negatives and demand the money back.
4 weeks running and not 1 person can say their account has been "smacked". Find me one person and I will pay you $1,000. And I still am here.


Title: Re: DISCOUNT AMAZON CODES FOR SALE 20% DISCOUNT, not!
Post by: newdude on April 07, 2012, 06:58:36 PM
I wont PM you again. I dont trust you and i will NEVER send you coins first.
Nothing for sale. I don't want your coins/mtgox or your trust.


Title: Re: DISCOUNT AMAZON CODES FOR SALE 20% DISCOUNT, not!
Post by: haploid23 on April 07, 2012, 09:11:32 PM
Newdude, this post is directed to you only, in a public manner:

Looks like I was wrong about you, you are not a scammer that I made you out to be. I just panicked when you had my money and took back the codes you sold to me and gave them to someone else, so I didn't know what else to do except call you a scammer. The codes that you didn't take back however, worked perfectly fine, no problems with amazon reversing it from my amazon account. It looks like I jumped to conclusions too quick about this whole situation, so this is my public apology to you.

After several days of thoughts on this situation, I realized this whole drama is pointless. I will look past this whole situation now, so just let me know whenever you feel like refunding me. Hope there is no more bad blood between us.

~Haploid


Title: Re: DISCOUNT AMAZON CODES FOR SALE 20% DISCOUNT, not!
Post by: newdude on April 07, 2012, 09:29:56 PM
Newdude, this post is directed to you only, in a public manner:

Looks like I was wrong about you, you are not a scammer that I made you out to be. I just panicked when you had my money and took back the codes you sold to me and gave them to someone else, so I didn't know what else to do except call you a scammer. The codes that you didn't take back however, worked perfectly fine, no problems with amazon reversing it from my amazon account. It looks like I jumped to conclusions too quick about this whole situation, so this is my public apology to you.

After several days of thoughts on this situation, I realized this whole drama is pointless. I will look past this whole situation now, so just let me know whenever you feel like refunding me. Hope there is no more bad blood between us.

~Haploid
Apology accepted.
You DONT owe me an apology. I owe you one 1000% more.
I owe you a bigger apology.
You will be refunded next week.
I was 100% wrong.
After I refund you, I will even throw you some FREE codes.
Make sure to make a post in my other thread for your free entry into my giveaway.  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=75770.0
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Title: Re: DISCOUNT AMAZON CODES FOR SALE 20% DISCOUNT, not!
Post by: BadBear on April 08, 2012, 01:35:25 AM
Glad to see you two worked it out.