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Hello all,

It is my great pleasure to announce a new digital download marketplace called CoinDL.

Over the past several months I spent a lot of time talking with others in the community and thinking about Bitcoin: what it really needs, what would truly be a game changer, and about Bitcoin's unique strengths. It's time to play to Bitcoin's strengths!

Taking stock of the massive number of tools Bitcoiners have developed, it's clear that Bitcoin is ready to be the foundation for a new economy. It is time now to enable people to earn Bitcoin just like they currently earn dollars, euros, and yen. It is time now to demonstrate the possibilities, providing something people are already familiar with in a new and simple, even magical way.

The service features a purchase process that you have to try to believe. Just click, send and download all within seconds. All that's required is that you have some (even a tiny bit) of Bitcoin available somewhere.

At launch, the CoinDL store is stocked with several exclusive Bitcoin-related items including a song, wallpapers, avatars and a pretty awesome ringtone that has kept me and mine entertained ever since we started listening to it.

Even if you hate Bitcoin, you can't defend yourself against music's infectiousness. Is it possible that Bitcoin can enable a revolution of culture as well as payment?

https://www.coindl.com

Micropayments, an affiliate program, fast transactions, gift and coupon codes, no privacy risk, and a clean-simple interface all made to the soothe the savage geek.

Any questions? Post here or email info@coindl.com

Thanks,

weex

You are asking too much informations during the registration :P

Hey Dave,

Cool website!

I just tried it out, and have a few comments/suggestions

1- Very clean and smooth, I clicked 'buy' and a little popup appeared, sent my payment, and within seconds got a download option! I like the email receipt option as well.  
2- Can you add a bulk download option? I'd like to be able to select a few things and send 1 payment when I'm down.
3- Content. What kind of content do you propose for this website? Are we allowed to upload our own?

Also, I wanted to point out that I'm really impressed that out of all the Bitcoin businesses, ExchB and Bitinstant were the only ones I could find registered as an MSB
http://www.fincen.gov/financial_institutions/msb/msbstateselector.html

Again, nice site, looking forward to see how it progresses.

-Chaz the Spaz

I can see that but you may appreciate that we reserve blood and tissue sampling for large, established record companies. :P

Chaz,
Regarding your third point, please see the very bottom of the page.

- Terry the Terrorist

Neat new logo there Charlie. I'll definitely note the bulk/combined download option.

As for content, you can upload anything you own the rights to. There is a sales agreement and verification process for that. I'm definitely looking forward to helping anyone who wants to sell their music, graphics, whatever. I'll post a list of categories that are currently available if anyone's interested.

Got it, thanks Terry  ;D

I like the way this is set up (but haven't actually used it yet). Can you elaborate on:

• Can seller specify price?
• What is your take? Percent of each sale?
• How long does a listing last?
• Can the seller remove a listing?
• How/when is the seller paid?
• What are your guidelines on what can be listed?

More info on the site would be welcome (unless I'm missing something). Thanks for this promising service!

Great questions all and no you're not missing anything. Some of it is answered once you register but not all. I'll make that information more visible soon.

Can seller specify price?

Yes, you are free to choose your own price as long as it's under $50. Prices can be set in BTC or in USD with the prices being automatically adjusted against mtgoxlast every hour. When you see a popup after clicking buy, that price has been locked in for you for 24 hours.

What is our take?

We are introducing the service with selling fee of 20% across the board. This is competitive with other download markets and includes hosting, bandwidth, SEO and marketing of the site, as well as first-class support for buyers and sellers.

How long does a listing last?

Listings do not have an expiration date. They will stay up until the seller or coinDL takes them down.

Can the seller remove a listing?

Yes, you can currently activate and deactivate items at will with immediate effect. We will however allow those who purchased an item to download as long as they have any of their 5 download times left regardless of whether the item has been deactivated or removed.

How and when is the seller paid?

We pay 48 to 72 hours after a sale is made directly to the seller's Bitcoin address.

What are your guidelines on what can be listed?

It needs to be something you have the rights to and no porn, obscene, or illegal material. As far as what types of items...here's a list of categories we currently have in the system:

Apps, Audioboks, Avatars, CAD/3D Models, eBooks, eMagazines, Games, Graphics, Music, Photography, Podcasts, Ringtones, Software, Wallpapers, Videos.

Let me know if there something else you'd like to list and I'll see if it makes sense.

I'm wondering why someone doesn't start a service where they offer a download service with two rules:
- the site wont check what the file is
- the site doesn't allow file names, every file gets an unique ID and that's it

Then you'd need to have another site owned by someone else, maybe hidden via TOR with a forum where each ID is matched with a description.

I wonder if such a site could keep plausible deniability of knowing what is hosted on their servers to allow anything to be sold without being attacked by the government?

This is a very interesting idea :D

A few days ago I asked if any one was working on an iTunes-style music store:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=74436.0

And now it's here! I will definitely refer people to this when it has more music on it. Perhaps MaxMin (http://www.hellomaxmin.com/) will upload his music to it.

Weex need a Free Sexy Ad  (http://sexybitcoinads.com) for it PM me ?  ;D

Thanks for answering all my questions - if I can figure out any digital content I own that folks might buy, I'll give it a try. As a potential customer, I'm turned off by vague services that don't fully explain how they work (and there seems to be a _lot_ of that in the Bitcoin world), so your answers add a lot of confidence in your service. I'd recommend putting them on the site (but I understand you're probably swamped with starting it all up). Best wishes.

I did see that post Amincd and as happens a few times a week I thought "coinDL's going to work great for that!" I've posted to Max Min's form and hope he responds as his music definitely needs to before available.

Maybe all files are encrypted and someone else sells the keys?

Like you (person who has some reputation) says "file 00456 on bitcoindownloads.com" is the next comic in this series. Send X to address Y for the key".

The site with the file has no way to check without buying all the keys which seems too much to ask and the seller is not selling any content. Seems too easy.

Sorry for the slight diversion OP. Good luck with the site.

Yes, the Achilles heel of many excellent programmers is the inability to put themselves in the shoes of the first time user of the tools they create and they tend to create a bit of a steep learning curve when they design software.

!
Yes! Man how didn't I make that mental leap... Only allow encrypted files! :D

Cool!  You made the website I wanted to make, but didn't have time for...!  :)

20% seems like an awful lot.  What sites are you comparing to when you say it is a competitive rate?

I believe iTunes charges 30%, but that's iTunes.

Well, I can't argue with that...

I suspect the high fees are because of the usually low prices in the range of a few dollars.

20% seems totally fine for a site that has -tons- of content. It's really nice to be able to think of something and go get it for coin or to browse through a bunch of neat stuff you haven't seen.

But right now you aren't really able to make that kind of offering and you need people to help you. That makes me think free or cheap to start is the way to go. Maybe leave the fee, but give rewards to the providers of the most downloaded material?

But otoh, there isn't really any competition to speak of so you can price pretty... aggressively.

But on the third hand, you invite competition pretty quickly if you charge too much.

What do you think about using your software under different branding to sell porn? it seems to be a growing thing the last week or so. reddit.com/r/girlsgonebitcoin if you didn't know.

CDbaby, Orchard and iTunes all charge 25%+ and have setup or annual fees in addition. Don't forget that if the site gets to significant volume licensing to Thompson will be required for MP3 sales. For that reason, I would recommend sellers upload music in Ogg Vorbis and we'll make it easy for users to purchase in the format they prefer.

To this I can only say, if you think you have something that will sell, especially something that is exclusively sold for Bitcoin(therefore giving folks a reason to buy Bitcoin and use coinDL), shoot me an email at info@coindl.com


I'm aware of that and if someone has strong experience in that industry, I would be open to discussing it. It's just not the focus for this site at this time.

I do think 20% is fair.  Considering the amount of development and hosting required it makes sense.  I do not know of any type of site that charges less, and as others have pointed out almost everyone charges more. 

please review Coindl.com at http://www.thebitcoinreview.com/site.php?site_id=845

affiliate program?

Planned. Anything in particular you'd like to see in such a program?

Tried it. Loved it.  8)

Posted my first impressions (http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/rramq/musicians_artists_invited_to_put_digital_goods_up/c486ray) to reddit:


Tl;dr: Best web store experience I've encountered. Ever. Soooo user friendly. This site deserves to succeed. Can not praise highly enough. Use this.

The only thing which sucks, and awfully at that is the content selection. Everything is awful (except the album i bought, Keys of Life is lovely). So... Get to work.

Get your stuff up there. I'm buying. (I'm looking at you ZhouTonged (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kdvTkddp1F0).) Would definitely use that for my ringtone.

Interesting idea!   

Thanks elux. As I said on Reddit, elux is not employed by coinDL :P

Getting artists, authors and publishers on the site is the #1 priority. I'm reaching out every way I know how to get folks interested in selling on the site.

I think there are a couple of things that can help. One is, if you know anyone who is publishing a download of any sort, have them email me at davids@exchb.com and I'll help get them setup.

The second one is a demonstration which will make it easier to understand just how unique and fast the purchase process is. I wish I could buy everything like this.

I just created a bounty to encourage people (you!) to make this video: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=75468.0

An update: Since launch, we now have the album by Justin Porter that is leading in sales and a song called Welcome to Love with a solid harmonic feel. Another ringtone has been added and more content is in preparation to go live on the site soon.

The response has been great so far. Thanks for reading,

David Sterry
https://www.coindl.com

some stats but mostly high payout

i noticed that when downloading, the "Content-Length" is not set in the http response header. this leads to the browser not displaying a progress bar.

I've already mentionned the site to a new up and coming band in Paris..

Merci beaucoup Boussac!

From what I can tell, the site is running a modified version of StrongCoin.com's micropayments script (https://github.com/ianpurton/StrongCoin.com-Payments-API-Example). If this is indeed the case, then the Content-Length header should be passed to the browser.

Edit: I just tried it on the free download, and it appears you are correct:

You're right about it being a modified version but none of the backend code is the same. The Content-length header is now in place.

I have no idea how this thread is evolving for I stopped reading the point I quoted below.


To me, this doesn't pass the smell test. Way too much hype! Sorry, weex.

~Bruno~

PS: If I'm in error in posting this, I'm man enough to apologize to weex, or to anybody else that may be offended by this post.

No need to apologize Phinnaeus Gage, I did get a bit strong with the rhetoric on the initial post. Be thankful I didn't resort to poetry or a filk.

What I hope comes through is that I'm working hard to make sure the site and Bitcoin reach their full potential. I'm sure you don't need help with Bitcoin but if you'd like to try out coinDL, pm me an address and I'll fund a small test.

Update:

We have added a New Releases page which at this early state is a pretty decent way to navigate the store.

https://www.coindl.com/page/new_releases

We have also made artists/author names link to their individual pages...for example:

https://www.coindl.com/page/author/25

This should be bursting with new uploads from amateur and other artists!

I don't know how many sales a Justin Porter normally sees but without having a widely recognized name he's benefiting greatly from being among the first to have content listed on the site.  As you mentioned, you had over 500 visits on the launch day.  Nearly every one at least saw the name Justin Porter since the selection is sparse and his shows up multiple times.  That's free advertising for these musicians.

How about taking pledges for certain artists or music genres even.  For instance, let's say I'm looking for dubstep.  I might pledge .2 BTC towards the first dubstep song to be listed on the site.  Or for specific artists -- if some pledges were made that proven revenue might help be what persuades the artist to sign up and upload.

I suppose for those who have signed up with a recording label though the choice to sell through CoinDL isn't up to the artist.   But simply having pledges might help the artist make a plea to the label to list on CoinDL.

If I have a few files for the same audio recording (e.g., MP3 (128 bit), OGG and MP3 (64 bit)), would I need to make separate items or is there a way to upload all three for a single item?

Having trouble uploading the mp3 for an audiobook:
"Error uploading file. Please try again or contact info@coindl.com"

Any suggestions?

Could always throw them together in a zip file.

Yeah, but it might be interesting (especially for movies) if you could offer a cheaper "mobile phone" quality version as well as an 720p/1080p version of the same video at the same place, maybe even with a free trailer.

Something like:

"My awesome movie:

Trailer (1080p): free! (maybe link/embed youtube)
Trailer (720p): free! (maybe link/embed youtube)

Full movie (1080p): 2 BTC
Full movie (720p): 1.8 BTC
Full movie (480p): 1.5 BTC
Full movie (160p): 1 BTC

Get all versions in a bundle for only 2.2 BTC!"

It might even be possible for the marketplace itself to offer different qualities/codecs for download: If you get a high quality FLAC file, you could offer OGG and MP3s as well as the FLACs in different popular bitrates for customer convenience.

Stephen, you can email info@coindl.com a link to the file or let me know which browser/OS you're using and I'll try to replicate the problem.

Currently, you'd need to make separate items but having linked items (albums with songs, different quality versions of a download) is an important feature that will be implemented soon. For now, upload the highest quality MP3 and I'll post here when that feature is availalble.

A problem was found in the upload process and has been fixed. If anyone else has had trouble uploading, it should work now.

A minor feature request: a display of the time left until the song preview finishes.

Noted. The plan is to get a better player widget soon so I'll make sure it has that feature.

Weex, I contact you via email. Was wondering if you're going to reply to my solicitation about possible project?

Yes, just replied.

In viewing the new releases, it is not obvious what type of media each item is.  Is the entry a music download or a photo, a video or a ringtone?

Also, if I could add a filter by to see only new releases for a specific type of media (e.g., music items only) that would be useful.

One other feature might be to see all items offered by a specific seller.   Since the artist isn't necessarily the seller, there's no method to know all the items offered by a specific seller.   I suppose this wouldn't show the sellers username with the site since a seller's identity is kept private but some fabricated unique identifier would allow all the seller's items to be linked.


Yup, that resolved the problem I had.

After listing my item I then got an email within 24 hours saying that the File upload was approved.

Does every upload appear in New Releases then?  If so, how long before a newly listed item appears?

Looking at my catalog it appears the price it shows isn't updating after I make changes.  There are two columns, price in BTC and price in USD, but if I change the method (from BTC to USD for instance) the value under the BTC column remains but the value under the USD gets updated.   But viewing the item's for-sale listing, the price is still showing the price originally entered for BTCs.  I'm assuming the for-sale listing will only list BTCs but if I specified a price in USDs that the price in BTCs shown should be computed based on the BTC/USD exchange rate and the appropriate price in BTCs displayed.

Or am I missing how this works perhaps?

Every upload should appear in new releases once it's approved. Let me know if something doesn't. Note that the preview and main files are approved seperately and each triggers an email.

The price update occurs on an hourly basis for items priced using 'Based on USD'. When I approve an item, it triggers a global price update but later changes to pricing do not.

If you set a price in BTC, it should update immediately (just updated this feature 20 minutes ago).

Currently it does not do on-the-fly conversion from USD to BTC, it is instead done in an hourly batch process. I can see now that having on-the-fly conversion will give a more solid experience for the seller. Should be possible to do in the next day or two.

I see, my mp3 didn't have an image so it doesn't render well in the New Releases and I overlooked it.

Could there be a way to optionally upload a thumbnail image rather than forcing it to be in the mp3?

There's definitely a way and will be included when albums (with songs as sub-items) are introduced.

Son of a bitch!

Full disclosure, everybody. The following is a PM I sent to weex about an hour ago:

The subject of the PM was entitled: I'm not an asshole!


I have now read this entire thread, and am here to formally apologize to weex.

I truly am sorry for my post, weex, for I now see where and how I erred. I will not make that same mistake every again. Please accept my apology.

I am so taken back by your response to my post. That was so professionally thought out and written. As far as you addressing everybody else's posts, I have to admit you're a class act. I wish you well in everything you do, especially with it comes to Bitcoin. Feel free to drop me a line if there is anything I can do for you.

Sincerely,

~Bruno~

Apology accepted Phinneus,...

coinDL got a nice mention today building off the bitcoinmagazine post by vbuterin!

http://www.hypebot.com/hypebot/2012/04/coindl-launches-itunes-of-the-bitcoin-world-employing-new-digital-currency.html

I just read it, and it's a very fine article.


(bold mine)

~Bruno~

weex: do you check your email regularly? Or do I have to pester you everytime?

I politely waited a day before pestering you.

CoinDL got soooo much publicity on Monday with the "iTunes for Bitcoin" Hypebot article, yet there still are less than two dozen music uploads.

This is going to be a chicken and egg problem, that will only slowly gain traction.  

A variety of content is needed, even if you need to pre-pay artists for their listings!

On usability, when adding a wallpaper I needed to create a resized copy of the original to use as thumbnail.  Can't CoinDL do the resize by itself?  Seems like anyone uploading a wallpaper would only have the full size available.

Incidentally, had a sale on my first item that I listed.   Very cool!

That's the whole issue of the bitcoin economy. We gottach keep existing business alive, keep new business going in, minimize business shutting down.

Slow growth until we hit the sweet spot when everthing goes BLAM!

In the meantime, bitcoiners ought to be patience and keep the light on.

+1.  For every item, you should display the filetype (.mp4 or .avi) and filesize.

I've emailed a buddy musician of mine to see if he's interested in putting any music up.  He does some pretty hardcore stuff at times...

You're just not gonna do it one musician at a time.

CoinDL needs to approach music clearinghouses, MP3.com and other entities that can offer a huge libraries of music.  Because CoinDL is a startup, presumably you would have to give up a big cut of the per-download price, to avoid paying large up-front charges for such bulk library purchases.

I agree, but at the very least, having some indie-musicians on the site can show bigger entities that it is a viable and workable model.

The category is now displayed on the New releases page and for related items for each item. I would encourage suppliers to mention their filesize and filetype in their item descriptions until an automated way to do it is coded.

I'm pleased with our progress so far with over 80 items available, over 30 suppliers registered and 2000 visits in the first week. This is with a site and service that have come virtually out of nowhere.

As you can tell from the suggestions, we're far from polished and have quite a bit of work to do before any significantly large business would consider partnering with us. For them it will be not just a matter of, "Oh hey Bitcoin, gimme some of that!" They will want to know that we can be trusted, the size of the market that will be opening up to them and to what extent folks are ready to buy.

Before that time, we'll be improving the site steadily and supporting suppliers as best we can with a range of tools to help them sell their digital wares.

If you want to help the site buying something is a good start. Even better is to mention coinDL to a friend that you've got on IM or the phone and buy something for them while they watch (they can IM or email you the address and amount and the process should work just as fast).

-weex

In all seriousness, is email a horrible way for you to interact with you? I am still waiting for your response. Don't have any digital goods I can sell on the site, but I can code.

kiba, you have been emailed.

kiba: You wouldn't make a good politician.

i wonder - is it ok to sell public domain audio for a fee? from a legal perspective it should be ok, but what does the TOS of coindl say about this?

i have noticed that there was at least one upload of librivox.

to get a nice starting inventory for coindl, someone could gather, catalogue, keyword, proper ID3 tag public domain work, and offer them for minimal fees (say 0.1 BTC)

also, one more suggestion that might involve some serious programming: when downloading multiple files the site should offer a consolidated QR code where you can pay for all items at once, and multiple files should come as a download simultanously

Go to music program forums and tell their users they can earn bitcoins by selling their music.

You will reach lots of musicians some of those are kickass.

Programs such as:

FLStudio
Renoise
Energy XT
Reason
Logic
Qbase

etc

This would be fine, as long as you are legally licensed to sell the works you can put it on coinDL. To avoid spamming the catalog, it might be best to try it with a smaller number of items as a test and see how the sales go before diving into a massive project.
Thanks for this idea, Yankee mentioned it before and I think it's a good one which we'll look to implement soon.

This is a great idea istar. Do you happen to be established in any of those forums or know any Bitcoiners who are?

May link this to a site where I sell audio. I'll be sure to check it out!

You can now tweet your favorite items from item pages.

For example: https://www.coindl.com/page/item/72

What if, for example, a band had their own website and they wanted to sell their songs for bitcoin from their site.

Could you act as a bitcoin payment processor for them?  Could they just paste some code, that you would provide,
into their own website pages to allow them to do something like that? 

I also know others, like photographers, that have their own sites and might be interested in something like this, as
long as it wasn't too much hassle to setup themselves. They already have their own website and would prefer to
keep visitors there rather than pointing them to some other (less attractive, less organized) website where they
would have to search and dig for the content they wanted to sell.
 

Thanks

p.s. I think the prices people are asking for stuff at this site are too high by a factor of 10.

I think with the reduced disposable income people have these days they are reluctant to pay much for music (etc.)
especially from non-established artists. 

Think about it people. Is it better to try and sell a song to a few people for $1 or to hundreds of people for 5 cents?

Bitcoin microtransactions makes such equations work! 

This would be great. Also having a cost per sale affiliate program for third parties (like btctip.com) to sell coindl mp3s right on their site would be useful.

Thank you Portnoy for your suggestion on external payment processing and perspective on price.

We can't make any promises about specific future developments but it's true there are many ways to increase sales and serve artists/authors and buyers.

Price on the other hand will probably work itself out via the usual market mechanics.

-weex

Is there (or could / will there be) a way to message the seller?

For instance, the following looks to be in the wrong category.  I think it is a graphic, but it is under the Apps category:
 - https://www.coindl.com/page/item/97

The probable reason it was miscategorized is because Apps is the default category when adding a New Item.  These important required fields probably shouldn't have a default, and instead should require the user to select the value.

Incidentally, I noticed I had another sale of my first upload!  CoinDL must be getting decent traffic.  Why there weren't dozens or hundreds of mp3 uploads from all those musicians I keep hearing about complain about money is something baffling to me.  CoinDL got a lot of good press earlier this week, so there were many many musicians who learned of CoinDL.  It costs nothing to list except a little bit of time.   (though, I suppose that time comes from their 24x7 updates of Facebook, so ya, I guess they have priorities.)

I'll second this suggestion.  Never know when a buyer might have questions before purchasing, or requests of other similar items they'd like to see.

You caught me as I was updating the site to add more fields for eBooks so I made the default Category and Author 'Please select' while I was at it.

Those listing eBooks will now find fields for ISBN (or ISSN for eMagazines and periodicals), year published, and whether illustrations/photos are included in it.

I realize there are other reasons to message a seller so will put that on the list of features to implement.

Yesterday there was no news but we still had 160 visits so I'm pleased with that start. Working on getting publicity with the upcoming listing of a unique item as well.

1,775 views this thread has received now, and there are less than a dozen new songs that have been added since launch.

Whiskey,

... Tango,

.....     Foxtrot!

Seriously?

How many of us play music or know someone who does?    Come on ... I can only listen to Funky Coins just so many times before I need something new in the playlist:
 - https://www.coindl.com/page/item/91


Ok, so I'll do my part to help get this party started.   I'll pledge to buy at least 2.0 BTC worth of new music that appears over the next week.   If there is only one new song (priced at 0.2 BTC for example) then I guess I buy 10 copies it.  Preferably, I'll have my choice of 10 new songs to choose from, or a new album upload, etc.

Is anyone going out tonight?  Consider going to a place that has open mic or has a local band playing.  Pitch CoinDl to the musicians.  It costs them nothing but a few minutes of their time.  For every sale that occurs the seller gets 80%.   Set it and forget it, the coins from sales will arrive without doing anything else. Offer to set it up for them, if they're claiming to not have enough time or don't know how.

CoinDL got headlines in the music world with a story describing it as being the iTunes for Bitcoin.   It's way too early to get that title, but everything big once started small.

Anyone care to lend a hand here and help towards getting some new content on CoinDL?

tbh it's the unwordly sales registration form that got me... i was ready to start selling some tracks but couldn't be F with all that info right now.

i'm willing to bet other musicians have closed their browsers at that point too.

Looks like you've got a couple purchases to make as two quality albums from a band called Tiny Pupils were just posted. https://www.coindl.com/page/author/62
I will personally match the 2.0 BTC (and having listened to the previews and snippets from a couple songs from Tiny Pupils I can say it'll be worth it).

Done!


I thought those might be single songs for download as the prices are 0.099 (about $0.50 USD) and 0.1999 (about $1.00 USD).  But it is an entire album.  Maybe there needs to be a subcategory?   Music -> Albums, Music -> Single

Anyways, this was my first music purchase and the experience was slick.  The popup for "buy" an item shows the bitcoin address but as soon as I sent the bitcoin the link appeared for "download" (on 0/unconfirmed).  That's great!  

I also wanted to test usability, so I sent a partial payment.  No response, though I wasn't really expecting one.  But then as soon as I sent the remainder, ... the popup switched to showing the download link instantly.

Another test was what if I somehow navigated away without seeing the download.   After going back to the item and clicking the buy button again instead of being asked to pay (yet again), it just showed the download link  -- it remembered me and knew that I had already paid.

Nice work.

So there's still my 1.7002 BTC remaining for new music!

After my payment was received I was able to enter my e-mail address to get a receipt sent (an optional step).

From the receipt that was sent to my inbox, I have the link which I can use to download again at a later time.  (The file may be downloaded up to 5 times, it says).

So CoinDL knows all the downloads that were purchased for my e-mail address.  What might be nice down the road would be the ability to register that e-mail address and login to see all my purchases (with link to downloads) all at once.

Nice work.

I had a great experience as a first time user.

Some suggestion (if not already noted)

Add a "copy to clipboard" for the payment address.
Maintain a list of categories on all pages for navigation to encourage "window shopping". (I had to go "back" after my purchase to view other categories: I was in the wallpaper category). 

You can register for an account and not apply to become a supplier. Later those accounts will be used for other interactions with the site like reviews, listing your purchases, and anything else that a site might require an account for. With the receipt, what we'll probably do is let you enter in the order numbers of your previous purchases though matching up the email addresses is an easier way to make it easy from coinDL's end.

If you want to buy something for a friend, feel free to use the email receipt feature as a way to send them the download link for the gift.

Thanks, come back soon!


Some browsers won't let you do a copy to clipboard but after looking into it, it appears we can make it easier for users to do it.

And you're right, all pages should have those category links. Expect them.

With the purchase of Alco, I met my 2.0 BTC committment.

So, the new music (singles and albums) since my post last week:

 - https://www.coindl.com/page/item/127 Alco by Alco
 - https://www.coindl.com/page/item/138 Molly Ringwald Is Dead by Love Supine
 - https://www.coindl.com/page/item/113 Arc by Sean Gill
 - https://www.coindl.com/page/item/110 Tiny Pupils (Album)    by Tiny Pupils
 - https://www.coindl.com/page/item/109 Debut LP (Album) by Tiny Pupils
 - https://www.coindl.com/page/item/111 What is Bitcoin by Leo Treasure

That's just awesome to see!

I have quite a few new additions on my playlist now.  I give Alco an enthusiastic two thumbs up!

CoinDL has been updated with better uploading and support for Albums and other types of collections. Changes:

* A new uploader shows progress as the upload is being sent and has an increased upload limit of 500MB.

* We now support Albums and other types of collections. The individual songs in an album can each have their own audio preview and price. It's possible to do bonus tracks as well(making them only available with purchase of the album).

* Albums and other collections can have Cover art which is enabled when an item is tagged as a collection.

Behind the scenes, I'm working on automating the album upload process to create the song sub-items and individual song previews once an album has been uploaded. More details are available at the bottom of the create/edit page for any item.

For an example showing cover art and a few previews see Alco's album: Alco https://www.coindl.com/page/item/127 (this is an amazing album and is still exclusively available for purchase at CoinDL as far as I know!)

Thanks everyone for being so supportive and generous with your suggestions and feedback. If you buy something and you like it, tell a friend!

-weex

Weex, I like the idea of your site, but I think it needs a more professional look. The combination of colors and fonts gives me the feeling I just landed on a typo-squatted page.

damnek, for the last time, no you may not buy the template for your typo-squatting enterprise. :)

Seriously though, are there any specific changes you recommend?

Just wanted to let people know CoinDL now supports Bitcoin URIs so a new Buy Now button and QR code format have been added. Thanks to etothipi for highlighting this opportunity.

Also, there appears to be a problem with the Music listing not showing a second page so my apologies to those whose music isn't showing up in that listing. It'll be fixed asap.

Gumroad Gets $7 Million Series A From Kleiner Perkins For Indie E-Payment Platform
 - http://techcrunch.com/2012/05/07/gumroad-7-million-series-a-kleiner-perkins/

Comparing CoinDL:

If an item costs $1, CoinDL takes 20 cents;  (versus Gumroad taking 30 cents)  Advantage CoinDL.
If an item costs $10, CoinDL takes $2.00; (versus Gumroad taking $0.75).  Advantage Gumroad.

This difference is something that is noticed.   Example:
 - http://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=77691.0

CoinDL doesn't have any serious Bitcoin competitors.  If there was one, then prices would likely drop accordingly.  But without one, anyone who wants to sell digital goods for Bitcoins is hard pressed to find another solution that works as well as CoinDL.

Thanks for everyone that has bought the Alco album so far. We've gotten a lot of awesome feedback from the bitcoin community. If you haven't checked us out yet here is the link to our album on CoinDL.

https://www.coindl.com/page/item/127 (https://www.coindl.com/page/item/127)

Thanks!

Thanks Stephen for your concern on pricing. There are many ways to succeed with CoinDL but dropping the price at this stage is not the best one. Getting more content of course and continuing to build out the basic features are the priorities.

On the development front, I've been working on a sales widget which is almost complete.

I've also added a notification preference for signed-in users(visible on Dashboard, My Account etc) as my hope is to send out a periodic one-pager highlighting artists, authors, and developments with the site. I have a rough format for that newsletter if anyone would like to help write a first issue. (PM me if so)

Finally at the bottom of every page you'll see a link to the IRC channel for the site. #CoinDL on freenode is where you can go if you want to chat about music/art/other downloads or about the site itself. PM me if you'd like to be an op there as I figure someone other than myself should be.

Thanks,

weex

The sales widget has been released this morning. https://www.coindl.com/widget

Very cool!

+1 !

This is great!

Nice!  Are you planning on doing more with this? 

Like giving people the ability to configure it for themselves to help it fit in with their
own site's style.

For example what if someone has a gallery ( e.g. nextgen gallery in wordpress ) of
photos and they just want to put one of those "buy now" buttons under each picture..
with perhaps the title or maybe just the price... or maybe just the button... or some
combination of the various elements... but something minimal.

This may be getting closer to something I can use.   

CoinDL is currently handling the entire purchase and delivery process for the items that are on the site or in this widget. Are you asking to be able to just embed a button that uses the same process or are you looking to store and deliver the files yourself? With something like a gallery that may have bulk inventory changes I can see how the latter might make sense. Please expand.

I was thinking about that first option but would like that latter one too if it could be done where
the directory url wouldn't be exposed allowing anyone to go there and grab the files there. 

Slick.  I just bought "Bitcoin - What It Is and Why It Matters" by sending BTC to the address.  I tried the Buy Now button but Chrome tried to pop open my Armory wallet which I don't use.  Anyway to change the default?

Thx.

Well etotheipi will be pleased...this should be set by your OS and if there's no handler it'll just go to a blank page. Might have an intermediate page if I hear of people getting confused. It's probably best to copy/paste until Bitcoin-QT or your other client can register itself as the handler.

The default client doesn't have support for those types of Bitcoin URLs.... Yet.

Thanks for the idea. I think the first one is doable and fits well with the general operation of the site. The second one is probably best done as a separate project completely.

A few updates:

1)  CoinDL got some new stuff today including a funny wallpaper ( https://www.coindl.com/page/item/189 ) and a newly-collected album from thricefoldedcloak called "Skip This Album" ( https://www.coindl.com/page/item/191 )

2) "Skip This Album" was another album for which previews and sub-items were automatically created from an uploaded zip file. Obviously lots of the massaging of content needs to be automated.

3) On the development front, I've sent out the first free newsletter and you can sign up for it at http://eepurl.com/lEWpX

4) This is pretty cool... Bitmit has agreed to put a link to CoinDL in all of their Digital Goods cateogories. For example: http://bitmit.net/en/shop/c/22-digital-goods and in return we've added a link at the bottom of our home page in case any of our visitors aren't satisfied with fully virtual goods.

Contacted a punk band I know here in Aus to see if they want to sell some stuff.

On the issue of getting content and prepaying artists to do so this might be a good opportunity to raise some funding :)

I'd love to hear some Aussie punk on the site.

Funding is a concern but of course I'd better finish this business plan first!

Its a great site and anything to avoid itunes is a plus.

To better highlight the great artists and authors who have posted their goods on CoinDL, we are introducing a new tumblr/blog at http://tumblr.coindl.com

Our first post there is an interview with "#agora - a novel?" author Danny (http://tumblr.coindl.com/post/23835985901/interview-with-danny-author-of-agora-a-novel) about how he got into Bitcoin, and his thoughts behind the book.

Looking forward to highlighting lots of great people there!

-weex

15 eBooks (historical fiction, children's, and non-fiction) by Tarrin P. Lupo - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=85964.0

Also added recently, Blondie Economics https://www.coindl.com/page/item/223

Music sounds good man.

I suscribed today, and I uploaded a photo (Tommaso Carmagnola).
NIce website, there will be always a "Pending approval" sign for the photos?

Nice photos ildubbioso. All content is approved manually for now.

These are great pictures of the Venus transit! https://www.coindl.com/page/author/105

Any chance you could add photo size to the photos?  You know, like 1680x1050, or whatever it happens to be.

Added, the color one is 1400px square and the other is 1500px square.

It would be good to know how they were taken too but I'm no help there.

Thanks!  I'm sure if the original uploader wanted the specifics to be known, they could add that in the description, right?

Indeed.

What is the Sub-item Price?  

And I have to upload a preview image? If I upload the same I sell they can steal it?  ???

The sub-item price is meant for cases where the uploader wants pieces of the item broken out and sold individually. I have a script that takes an album of mp3s for example and creates individual song items and previews from it. It should only appear if you say the item is a collection of some sort. It will only be used if CoinDL automatically creates the sub-items(songs) for you.

The preview image should fit within 300px wide by 169px tall. If I see an image that is bigger I'll resize it down but of course I prefer you do it. I haven't been rejecting oversized preview images. Later, such previews will be automatically created or resized from whatever is uploaded or from the main item. Haven't decided which.

Hi, I would like to do an interview with CoinDL for bitcoinweekly.com

Thanks for the answer.

Can I upload 2 photos (pre-photoshop, post-photoshop) selling one image? I'd like to offer more than the single photo.

If you want to sell them as a single download, you can upload a zip file containing them. To offer them separately would require you make a new item for the other version.

I will do that, thanks :)

If Coindl creates thumbnails automatically it would be perfect  :)

Hi. I requested an interview and this interview was accepted, except I didn't receive any reply yet to my PM or my email.

I suggest you to add the possibility to upload a .rar file. The non-Windows user can have some problems with .zip.

How can I tell the resolution on this (https://www.coindl.com/page/item/79) wallpaper, or on any wallpapers for that matter?

The supplier of said wallpaper would need to put that info in the description. It's an excellent choice as I have been using it as my own wallpaper for a month or so and had a few comments on it. It's 4000x3000 px.

Thanks for the info.
Looks great, my current wallpaper is this (http://guardsmanbob.com/data/Wallpapers/wallpaper28484.jpg) but that maze looks pretty cool too. I have to try it, and for only .06 BTC, it's a steal :)

EDIT: 11.69 MB. Nice quality!

Glad you liked it. Your previous wallpaper was really beautiful. Definitely pulled me in with all the detail. I wonder how big the original of that is.

Can the users contact the creator of the files directly on CoinDL?

Not currently but we'll put that on the feature request list.

If I wanted to sell audio I made for brainwave entrainment (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brainwave_entrainment) (much better than anything I-Doser's done for sure,) what category would it belong in? Any chance of, perhaps, an "other audio" section or something similar?

Yes, I'll add that category shortly. For now, you may upload it as music and I'll move it over when the category is ready.

CoinDL now enables artists and authors to let their patrons "Pay What You Want". It's pretty simple and as fast as ever. This is a great first experience if you are trying to introduce a new user to Bitcoin.

Notable items that are now "Pay What You Want":

Alco's self-titled second album (https://www.coindl.com/page/item/127)
How To Vanish: Basic Privacy Guide by Trace Mayer, J.D. (https://www.coindl.com/page/item/168)
Keys of Life by Justin B Porter (https://www.coindl.com/page/item/29)
and a bunch of other items!

Sellers note that this is particularly good if you have a strong fanbase or if your item is a download (i.e. everything on CoinDL) and it's never been a better time to sell your wares for Bitcoin.

If you'd like to switch your item to "Pay What You Want", PM me or send an email to info@coindl.com or look for the Pay What You Want option when creating your item.

Finally, how would you as a buyer or seller feel about seeing total earned or average price paid when buying?

Edit: So sorry Mr. Porter. Fixed your album title!

That's Keys of Life, mister!

Hi weex -

I am trying to upload a music album to CoinDL. Using your suggested method of a tar.gz of the .wavs & a .png, I end up with a file size of 687MiB. This is larger than your upload limit. I tried uploading it anyhow, but the upload was cut off.

I would like to suggest that the upload limit be increased to the max size of a Red Book audio CD.

If it makes any difference, I think gzip is likely a poor choice for .wavs - or for a .tar of .wavs. The compression ratio was only on the order of 10% or so. I am using gzip 1.3.12 on OS X.

Hi jbreher,

We are unable to increase the upload limit at this time which is lame I know but if you can provide a link (i.e. upload it somewhere else) we'll happily take it from there.

Clearly increasing the upload limit is going to the ultimate solution but we'll change our suggestion when we've found something better for lossless audio compression. Or feel free to suggest one...thing is, it needs to be easy for most people to get their hands on so not to exotic. Again..the upload limit....

Thanks,

weex

Any chance of using HTML5 audio instead of Flash?   (If the browser supports HTML5, of course, but most do now.)

That way those from an iPad can preview.

Thanks, weex. I'll see if I can set up an ftp server.

Alternatively, if you are going to compress them into 320K mp3 anyhow, I could do that myself. That would come in well under your limit. Do you distribute everything in 320K MP3, or does the customer have an option?


FLAC is a great lossless audio compression format. However, it befuddles the masses. Probably need to offer MP3 if you need to offer only one. In order of priority (based upon my SWAG at market success), I'd suggest .mp3, .wav, aac, .wma, .flac.

Are you familiar with Bandcap? They take .wav as input, and output several resolutions of of .mp3, .flac, .wav, etc - all at the purchaser's discretion.

Re: HTML5, we'll be working on that and got a great suggestion for a lib that helps it work well.


320kbps MP3 is fine if it's easier. I am familiar with Bandcamp and wanted to setup the same sort of multi-format pipeline. So far, we have a script that automates some of it (generating previews) but there are lot of details to get right so it's not clear when that will be done.

To anyone who attempted to pay for a "Pay What You Want" item with less than 0.000001 BTC, please try again or contact me with the Bitcoin transaction id, the item, and your email to receive the item. There was a bug that wasn't registering payments under that amount that has now been fixed.

Is it possible that you would provide market data on total BTC transacted per day?

I was able to upload an archive of 320K mp3's, plus a png of the album cover. The mp3s have info in the ID3 tags:

As can be seen, the first upload failed - the system did not recognize .tar as a valid file type. Recreating the archive as a .tgz resulted in success.

Please let me know if anything looks amiss.

Thanks!

Further questions arise in setting up the offering. I couldn't find answers for the following:

1) What is the Preview File?

2) Do we not 'Manage Sub-Items' until the album .tgz archive has been unzipped on your end?

1) The preview file will be the audio file that plays when the album is being viewed as part of a list of albums.

2) That's true. The file has been processed and your item is active. You can now manage sub-items, upload individual previews, set individual prices etc.

Have you tried .wav with .7z compression? 7z can go to very high ratios, at a mild cost of CPU time. I just tried it on a .wav sound effect I had lying around, I got 33% compression. Longer files generally get better compression.

… but how? Is it implicit by not defining a price?

No, email info@coindl.com to request your item be sold that way. We'll get you a check box on the item's edit page soon.

I think this is a really bad idea.

Why?

I agree and have no plans to provide such data.

Why?

Because... why? :)

There's just no incentive for weex to release this information.

I suspect we're talking < 1000 BTC, certainly less than 10000 BTC since launch anyway.

Given some time and healthy growth, it could make sense to puff one's feathers
and show off with "One million BTC powered downloads served" or something.

But for a low volume business with small transactions: Nope.

I love the initiative, but it would be great if you could rate and review items and sort by rate, etc.

Not sure why you would think the community is that small.

http://s16.postimage.org/yoawiddox/image.jpg?noCache=1342808351

After todays visit, I bought the Alco (https://www.coindl.com/page/item/127) album. Nice!  :) The album downloaded as "alco.zip"

Suggestion: Change the name of the the downloaded object to something like "CoinDL-author-product.zip"

For example: "CoinDL-Justin_B_Porter-Keys_of_Life.zip"

I figure it's sort of easy to delete a file named "alco.zip" or "wallpaper.zip" by accident.

I have not located a utility that will do 7-zip on OS X. The canonical 7-zip.exe seems to be Windows-only.

http://7-zip.org/download.html shows several user-provided mac ports, although none from the official authors.

I'm waiting for my application to be approved.

Some of my friends formed a folk-rock band, and recorded an album. They sound sort of like a grittier version of the Avett Brothers. Or maybe more like Bob Dylan. They're no longer together, but two of them, including the frontman, just started recording and performing under a different name.

Anyway, I'll upload it under "pay what you want" whenever I get cleared. It's on itunes too.


Here's a music video they threw together once for a contest (no, it didn't win, but a great song).
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sru8-a3_BfQ&feature=related

Edit: the member who manages their sales is my roommate. Proceeds go to the band members.

2nd Edit: My app has been approved. Turns out, I only have .m4a files, so I'll have to hassle my roommate for some .mp3's when he gets back into town.

I would like to follow the beat and pulse of the community by tracking economic activities. It's a shame that those information are considered business secrets.

As did I.  As I've been in-and-out of the Bitcoin scene for months now, I was not aware that this site even existed until 20 minutes ago, when I came upon it via BitVisitor.  Dunno why I even use BitVisitor since it pays out maybe a penny at most per 5-minute website visit, but this time I'm glad I did since it introduced me to CoinDL, and this album.  I'm not exactly a music buff, but the closest thing I can compare it to is the entirety of the album "The Hazards of Love" by The Decemberists.  Either way, I liked what I heard in the previews, so I bought it.  Wouldn't have heard of them at all if it wasn't for Bitcoin :D

This site, at least from my cursory glance at it, appears to be one of those perfect applications of Bitcoin, as a sort of replacement for iTunes for those willing to accept Bitcoin as payment, and going after the indie music scene is a fantastic idea for that.  I'll comment more once I peruse the site more to see what else people have to offer.

CoinDL here actually makes me excited to spend Bitcoins on actual goods and services again rather than treating it like a stock, much the same way that BitcoinTorrentz does.

m4a is a container format and inside them may be audio encoded either lossy or lossless. If the files are large enough to be lossless, feel free to upload them and we'll encode them to MP3 320kbps. If they are smaller they are likely already compressed in which case it's best to wait until you obtain the tracks in mp3 format.

Noted.

This is a great idea. The better id of files is nice as well as a little branding!

They are at 256 kbps, must have been a CD rip.

Bitvisitor has been driving quite a bit of traffic to the site and paying out of their own pocket. It'll be interesting to see what sort of residual impact they will have had if/when they stop. So thanks to them for leading you here and thanks to you for the testimonial.

About Alco, I kid you not, I listened to them in the shower this morning. Having enjoyed the album several times it sort of makes you wonder about the entire industry. There's just not enough time for a person to weed through everything themselves. I have no doubt there are a thousand hidden gems that are waiting to be discovered. If CoinDL can help do that, that's a huge bonus on top of everything else Bitcoin has to offer.

It is a pleasure helping creative folks lead not just with their works but with how they distribute them.

i can't find the way to make the price of my stuff as "pay as you want", any idea?

Please email info@coindl.com with the item id and we'll confirm before setting that option.

I wonder why there is no preview here (https://www.coindl.com/page/item/338) while there obviously is a preview available as can be seen here (https://www.coindl.com/page/author/139).

Bug?

Yes, this is a bug. The album has been processed for individual song purchase so it's fixed now.

ok, so now the album is pay what you want and there really seems to be no lower limit (tested with 10 satoshi or so) and the single songs all have a price. I guess it's quite good to have this combination as it hits for a targeted average price but somehow I fell like this actually is a bug?

It's not a bug per se as it's working as intended. It's really a matter of the seller's preference but at first blush it doesn't seem to make sense for a buyer to want to buy only one or a few songs for a certain price when they can easily just get the whole album.

If you can point to another example of Pay What You Want where the individual songs are also Pay What You Want ( or if you feel strongly enough about it ) we can go ahead and make that the policy. It would be good to hear from at least one other PWYW seller though before some global change is made.

woops, I'm not a seller yet. I only get people to your site and therefore try to understand it and report things that look counter-intuitive. If you do it like others do it, then I'm sure it's fine :)

Via PWYW I can pay 1 Satoshi and the receipt claims I paid "0.000 BTC" which is mathematically correct but … I insist I did not pay 0BTC.

That's like buying a car and getting a receipt that claims I paid G$0.000

If you would like a refund, we will gladly refund 0.000 BTC.  :P

That is a bug that will be fixed shortly. Who knew all 8 decimal places of precision would be needed so soon?

Hi weex - I got my stuff up, but am somewhat confused over the album preview. Should it appear on the main album page? Maybe I'm blind, but I don't see it:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=95234.0 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=95234.0)

I poked around the dashboard, but found no obvious means of enabling the preview.

Cool beans. I like this!

I had a few issues:

    1) I coppied the address to pay and then, being a happless clicker, clicked off to another page.
        I made my payment but nothing happened. :-(
    2) I paid another address, or tried to but my bitcoin client would not accept it. Its invalid. (14A7ULdCNBWUAgoS6yaEYm9LxT4fRxP5W)
        Firefox does show these addresses a bit outside of the box, maybe their is a character missing.

Actually I have been working on a similar site for a while. But mine has no content (well none worth anything) and no flashy graphics, although it does allow upload.
It would be rude to post here, but launch perhaps in a few days...

Sorry if this question has an obvious answer, but is there a way to find out what specific file format a given product on the site is in? If I were to purchase something, I'd certainly want to be sure it were something I'd be able to use first.

Hey jbreher,

The album preview doesn't appear on the main album page since each song has an individual preview. You are welcome to upload new song previews one-by-one if you prefer.

I put your album on the front page so hopefully that'll help drive some sales!

-weex

1) PM the address you sent to and approximately when and we'll reply with a download link.
2) That's interesting. Guess that box needs to be a little bigger.

In regards to your site, and if you are so inclined, pm the details or when you launch. Maybe we can work together to expand the market for the arts available for BTC!

All music on the site is in MP3 format currently but beyond that, the item description would have to list the formats included with the download. If you have a question about a specific item, please reply or email info@coindl.com.

Sellers,

A new feature was just released that enables you to set multiple bitcoin addresses for payment. In addition, each address can be sent a percentage of your payments. This can be useful if you have someone who will help get the word out about your works and you'd like to send them a cut. Just get their Bitcoin address and give them 1% or more of your funds.

If you would like to remove an address set its percentage to 0 and be sure all the remaining addresses add up to 100.

Note that extremely small payments may be rounded to nothing if you split evenly but then again those are the 100 satoshis or less payments that would have any such problem.

Thanks,

weex

Firstly, just because they aren't checked and have a unique id (something similar to how megadownload did it) doesn't mean they can't be checked or looked up on a long list of checksums. To maintain privacy the company (and I say that because it'd cost a fortune in bandwidth and data) would have to delete logs which in and of itself would be illegal in many jurisdictions. Even if they consciously chose not to keep them it'd be pretty easy to intercept upstream anyway. I know people could say 'but use SSL' however I suspect a federal authority would be able to twist the arm of an SSL provider and obtain the https:// servers private key anyway.

That leaves you with TOR which while I cool concept is hampered by overriding legal issues in many countries which ultimately kill the overall user experience & throughput. In Aus I'd probably end up in serious trouble if I setup a host that deliberately stored no logs and delivered TOR traffic not to mention I'd be stung for thousands of dollars delivering the bandwidth.

Just my 2c,

Stu

Sellers,

Another quick update. You can now add a YouTube video to any product's page. It will show to the right of the Description/Product Details. To put it on an item, go to your Catalog (https://www.coindl.com/account/catalog), click the pencil to edit an item and put in the ID of the YouTube video (not the entire URL) into the YouTube Video ID field. Save it and visit your product's page to check that it's the right video.

This is great if your product can benefit from a video describing it, showing a demo, or talking about its benefits.

Thanks,

weex

I'm sure you will figure out the right regexp to extract the ID so you don't have to rely on the user to extract it ;)

This could be an excellent platform to compete with the sadly Bitcoin-rejecting Humble Bundle (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=77449.0).

A Humbler Bundle can easily be put together but there's got to be more to it. Where are all those crazy Bitcoin ideas when you need them?

The website is currently offline and a ticket submitted with the hosting company. Will advise when more is known.

EDIT: We're back.

I arrived at this:

Testing:
$urls = array(
    '<iframe width="560" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/dQw4w9WgXcQ" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>',
    'youtube.com/v/dQw4w9WgXcQ',
    'youtube.com/vi/dQw4w9WgXcQ',
    'youtube.com/?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ',
    'youtube.com/?vi=dQw4w9WgXcQ',
    'youtube.com/watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ',
    'youtube.com/watch?vi=dQw4w9WgXcQ',
    'youtu.be/dQw4w9WgXcQ',
);

foreach ($urls as $url) {
    preg_match('/(?<=(?:v|i)=)[a-zA-Z0-9-]+(?=&)|(?<=(?:v|i)\/)[^&\n]+|(?<=embed\/)[^"&\n]+|(?<=(?:v|i)=)[^&\n]+|(?<=youtu.be\/)[^&\n]+/', $url, $matches);
    print_r($matches);
}

Works for all of 'em:

Also looking at setting up an album download for a cousin. Will try to get hold of WAVs - I currently have MP3s + image - I guess I can upload this if needed, but wavs would be better? Or does it just depend on the quality of the MP3s I have?


Let us know when this is up - really like the video you linked to.

Looking forward to hearing what you've got! If the MP3s are good quality that's probably fine for now. The WAV idea is part of an ongoing effort to create a multi-format rendering system.

CoinDL could do way more to promote the material. Where can I rate articles? Where can I filter or sort for just in, PayWhatYouWant, rating, popularity, etc. What is stuff sorted by anyway? Where are pictures of the artists in the overview? And why does playing one title not pause the others?

When I click "buy" for several articles, I get several check-outs? Seriously?

I hope you still believe in CoinDL and work behind the scenes cause without some polish I'm afraid this will not attract the masses.

Thanks giszmo for the passionate suggestions. Incremental improvements are in the pipeline and we're working with top sellers to build the features they want. Buyers are a little harder to satisfy but the things you suggest are obviously beneficial. Stay tuned.

Are bitcoin prices auto-adjusted to a set dollar value?

Some of them are. Sellers have a choice to fix the price in BTC or to set a USD value the will be converted and updated at least hourly using Mtgox last.

The main reason I didn't use this site yet is it's not at all clear to me that the sellers are the real creators of the content. What stops somebody from registering as a seller and just uploading other peoples music?

If there was a way for a seller page to link to some proof of ownership, like a page/tweet/Facebook post/whatever on the creators official sites naming CoinDL as a market, that would help a lot.

http://www.justinbporter.com/ shows a link to CoinDL.

Instead of a link what is needed, imo, is a way for artists, who are not technically inclined, to be able to sell their stuff directly from their own website. 

If you'd like I can send you the form letter I send to people for whom it's not clear that they own the content? It effectively asks for an email from a publicly known domain name for the author or publisher, a temporary mention on their website, or a DNS TXT record. We used Google's verification for google apps as a model.

Technical inclination varies widely but we do have a widget that is pretty simple to add to a site. You can see it in action at http://bitcoinexchangerate.org

password reset does not work:


also, you seemingly try to do the right thing and present the same error message when doing password retrieval, and display the same error message if the email account exists or not. but the styling is different, so i can check if someone has an account at your site.

Thanks apetersson. Both issues have been fixed.

A great idea.

Thanks for the info.  Does it have, or will you add, the ability for one to style the widget as one would like to make it fit in better on ones site?

Can't say as there's much of a user-friendly way to mod it but the css used is all in https://www.coindl.com/css/widget.css

You might be able to override some of the cdl* classes to acheive the look you want. Out of curiosity, what attributes might you want to modify besides the color of the frame?

Nothing specific in mind at the moment just wondering about possibilities. Perhaps the font and the font size and color; the size of the product graphic; the look of the button; the width of the widget; getting rid of the frame altogether to make it easier to use it inside posts and other content rather than using it strictly as a side bar widget... etc. 

Now available! Link and more info available over at this thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=101960.0

My first listing is at https://www.coindl.com/page/item/293 To assuage your doubts, you could always send me an email at joe@LeeThomasBand.com . I don't check this box often, but I'd be happy to return your email. Kind of a cheesy pseudo-confirmation, but available.

I'll put a CoinDL widget on the website when I move LeeThomasBand.com to a new hosting provider - which is on my todo list, but no where near the top.

A quick update: You can no longer create a cacophony by playing all the previews at once. In other words, audio previews work like they should. ;)

Another update:

* "New Releases" scales everything into a nice neat grid
* Items with no preview or thumbnail image will show a default white box
* Songs show the thumbnail of the album they come from

The Alco album has been seeing great results from our "Pay what you want" campaign. Thanks for the great platform to share our tunes on.

https://www.coindl.com/page/item/127

what in this article is about YouTube?

Oh, just that you can include a youtube link in your product pages.

all digital music is virtually free anyway

find some other item to claim intellectual property thats not free. theres no physical item when you're selling the music just an organization of bits that can be infinitely copied over and over again. It can really only be sold into use once before it's available for anyone potentially

copy and paste is not stealing

It is if I didn't authorize you to copy and paste, and it was my file to begin with.

i could have paid for the file or someone else that did who allowed me to :P

But if I didn't authorize them to do that when they downloaded it from me, how is that ok?

did they sign a written contract? i think not

give a bum $5 and force them to only buy solid food with it

A copyright notice included with the materials implies contract to not violate said copyright.  By downloading/purchasing the materials, yes, they consented to the terms of said copyright contract.

420, is this a feature request or do we carry something you want but can't warez?

I think he wants to carry on a conversation about supposed intellectual property, which could go on forever, where this is not really the appropriate place for it because this thread is about CoinDL's service announcements.

Or maybe 420 has some products available for sale on CoinDL? If not then I would not be surprised if the traffic on CoinDL would be interested in buying Smart Money Reports  :)

okay yes Mr. Vanish I'm bringing it up to try to debate the merits of intellectual property rights which seem to be very relevant to this site

I was planning on uploading for sale my music to this site

Oh, the irony...

Not really. One can believe there are no intellectual property rights and still charge for intellectual goods while still being philosophically consistent. The inconsistency would come in attempting to enforce the intellectual property rights which is what is germane to this particular discussion and the relevant terms are contained in CoinDL's Terms of Service. Want to use his service then play by his rules.

October announcement coming... Hint: you + CoinDL = you + BTC

i thought that's what it was already...is there a search feature?

No, it is something else that is even better and perfect for you so I bet you will love it!  ;)

First of all, I'd like to congratulate you weex for building this great site, giving an opportunity to a lot of people. I like both the idea and the implementation. I'm wishing you best of success with that :)

Just two questions though... What's the reason for asking sellers' information like full name, phone number, mailing address, city, postal code and country and how will that information be handled by CoinDL?

In terms of handling, this information is held on our servers and in encrypted off-site backups. The information would be used to get in contact with users should we not be able to get a response via email, mainly for any legal/tax questions that might come up.

Thanks,

weex

Thank you for the clear answer. It's always nice to know that such information will not be disclosed with third parties.

Is the preview for audio working?

I'm not hearing anything or seeing that it is trying to play, using Chrome on Linux.

Thanks Stephen Gornick. Nothing changed as far as I can tell so not sure why Chrome stopped working. Firefox is not affected. Will update once it's fixed.

How long does it usually take to approve an account ?

I posted about joining on twitter and some people have experienced delays and no contact.

Thank you for your patience. Usually new accounts are approved within a day or two. All outstanding applications have now been processed.

Why do I have to give my name phone # and address to sell on the site?

bullcrap

Hi, just a heads up, you might want to be careful, some of the record companies are targeting a business that's exactly like this. Its the only one out, other than this bitcoin one that I know of. Basically its the same thing, users upload music they own, and others buy it from them, they have a system in place that the user has to install software on their computers, and if they sell something it automatically makes it wipe it from their property. Except CD's obviously.

Even with a system like that in place, they're still being sued. The labels are claiming you cant re-sell digital products that you own.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-19842851

My understanding was that CoinDL would only allow the creators or copyright owners of the materials in question to sell said materials.  If that's not the case... BRB, going to go upload the whole internets for sale.

Ah, okay carry on then! :P

It looks like this announcement will be Nov 1st! So... CoinDL will be down for maintenance later tonight: 11pm to 2am PST.

CoinDL now has it's own affiliate program.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=121987.0

Update: Affiliates can now see the list of products and the commissions they currently pay at https://www.coindl.com/account/commissions (login required)

If you want to learn more about the site and its features visit the new Help Center: https://www.coindl.com/help

The website has been down for the past 2 hours. Submitted a ticket with the hosting company.

Edit: It's all back up after about 6 hours of downtime.

just tried coindl for the first time, grabbing mohammad rafi's album beyond matter

wow! THIS is how transacting on the internet is supposed to work! you guys are fucking awesome!

Thank you paulie_w for your purchase and for your glowing endorsement.  :D

Hello all,

CoinDL now has a Gift & Coupon Codes section. When a customer purchases a code, they get a text file with the code inside. This code is pulled from an inventory that the seller loads onto the site so if you're looking to sell lots of codes, CoinDL is the place. We also only charge 1% for this service versus the normal 20% for downloadable content.

https://www.coindl.com/page/category/codes

Find out how to create your coupon codes and the details of the program here: https://www.coindl.com/help/gift_and_coupon_codes

Our main restriction is that codes cannot expire or have any additional service or maintenance fees for the buyer since some states in the US disallow such policies.

You can even sell codes directly from your site using our Sales Widget! Go here to grab that:  https://www.coindl.com/widget

Thanks!

If you want to sell Gift and Coupon codes, note that we are only charging a 1% processing fee. For this your customer gets lightening fast gift code purchase which is perfect if you want to maximize the last few days before the prime gift-giving holidays.

Hi,

just in case you are out of ideas of how to improve coinDL:

you have apps as a special category. I hesitate selling my app via CoinDL as then everybody could pirate it and claim he bought it there. Is there a way to maybe zip it with a registration key that you send to a callback url that I provide?

The idea is the following:
You generate a unique, human-readable, non-guessable key.
You ask the authors for a script url that you notify upon purchase with ?key=blablub&paid=0.01BTC.
I store the key in a db for later use when I suspect high piracy rates.
You have a script that packs the actual apk file with a text file explaining not to throw away the key as it might or might not be needed to proof that you actually bought the app.

The paid-field could be used for pay what you want with some "if you pay above average, you get a wallpaper" features or other nice gimmics on my side.

Thanks giszmo for the suggestion. I'd probably just put the key in the downloaded filename so no special scripting is required. For example: Your-app--8d8f7s988gjj2h.apk

No promises on timing but will post here if it gets implemented.

cool. you are right. this way should work much better and easier to implement.

I'm looking at "The Great Credit Contraction": https://www.coindl.com/page/item/590

How to determine the format I would get. I want a mobi or epub, not a friggin' pdf I can't read on the kindle.

I couldn't find one. This site needs a search function.

This is true. It is well indexed however so your favorite search engine should work until we get something native.

Pay What You Want is now something a supplier can select for any of their items.

The minimum BTC price has also been dropped to 0.001 for regularly-priced items.

Finally, it is advisable to use USD-based pricing or else evaluate your pricing in accordance with recently-rapid exchange rates.

wazzup with coinDL? Is this the official thread?

Yes, it was down for several hours due to an unknown hosting issue. It's now back up.

Could you reword it somehow less alarming? Is my money safe on your server or should I withdraw instantly?
Can I auto-cash-out hourly without fees? It would be cool if you would offer that and in case you don't want to burn your fingers with fractional reserve, you should offer such a model to decrease the incentive to hack your server anyway.

As you know payments are sent automatically. The funds are 100% safe. The servers store very little BTC and in the event that some theft occurred, we would cover that.

what is the state of this project? i ask because mohammad rafigh is waiting since 2 weeks now to get his latest creations confirmed and doesn't get replies on his support mails.

We have a significant backlog on new uploads. Working on a plan to speed up or simplify this approval process.

How about auto approval for your best artists? How should an artist release new music in a timely manner like that?

I signed up and submitted an application to become a seller. (I'm selling wallpapers.) How long can I expect to wait for approval?

On a related matter I would like to know how long it takes to get questions answered here and how the backlog issue is evolving in general.

On an unrelated matter I like your signature.

Here's a thumbnail of the first wallpaper I want to list.

http://i808.photobucket.com/albums/zz6/Eylrid/bitcoin_flat_w_coin_400-257.jpg