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Title: Shadow/cash/coin called on trolling Blocknet (it's why) on Oct 21st. 100% Post by: TrangLee on November 02, 2014, 04:14:07 AM On October 21st I posted in the Full Truth about SDC trolls thread that they would mount this full on assault against Blocknet. Post #513 in this thread. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=818939.514
This was posted all these "blocknet scam" threads formed. Photshoped logs, fake paste bins, all of it to destroy a perceived threat to Shadow. Sic. All this Blocknet hate all this trolling and spamming of of Dan Metcalf and the Blocknet. They duped so many people. A quote of my post then: Oh god this never ends with these guys. The 3 big 80% coin owners-bagholders of ShadowCash (pookie, trollsroyce and longandshort) overrode their dev's decision to break with trolling and cooperate with other coins by forcing him to remove SDC from the Blocknet. To take it even further they have begun subtle fud trolling of the blocknet. This will become more viceral and obvious as time moves on. It will peak with a website yes website they are building purely for the point of discrediting and fudding the blocknet and its founding coins. Who does that? Make a website replete with fake pastebin quotes, gifs, and other smear items, and fud threads? Wouldn't the resources and effort of this be better off to make zk-snarks work and promote SDC? Seriously these guys must have small penis syndrome. Oh look XST,Fibre, Blocknet has a smaller penis than ours! ::) Mark my words this shit is real and you can quote this thread when they start their full on trolling of Blocknet and it's coins. Same for when the websit goes live. You heard about it here first. ;) Title: Re: Shadow/cash/coin called on trolling Blocknet (it's why) on Oct 21st. 100% Post by: FurianSun on November 02, 2014, 04:23:48 AM Wow great call man. You really hit the nail on the head. I knew they trolled coins but to actually plan out an assault like that. Holy fuck!
Title: Re: Shadow/cash/coin called on trolling Blocknet (it's why) on Oct 21st. 100% Post by: LongAndShort on November 02, 2014, 04:31:12 AM Another junk thread from a another kid criminal suporting xst xc and BLOCK
You can adapt this pic to any of the projects the people here circle jerking each other are involved in! https://i.imgur.com/6EzGf0g.png btw thanks for the advertisement space be sure to come join #shadowtest when the testnet for 100% anon transactions is up :) Title: Re: Shadow/cash/coin called on trolling Blocknet (it's why) on Oct 21st. 100% Post by: The Minion on November 02, 2014, 04:31:20 AM No shit! I was wondering why the fuck all this shit about blocknet and Dan Metcalf was spamming all over the place. Shadow? I won't touch the dirty dog of a coin now. That was just plain wrong to do to someone.
Title: Re: Shadow/cash/coin called on trolling Blocknet (it's why) on Oct 21st. 100% Post by: BTC-king on November 02, 2014, 04:46:33 AM Nice way to go SDC guys. Shit all over the altcoin section some more with bullshit. ::)
Title: Re: Shadow/cash/coin called on trolling Blocknet (it's why) on Oct 21st. 100% Post by: ILoveBigBlackCocks on November 02, 2014, 05:02:11 AM SDC wasn't responsible fucktards. Keep listening to Dan's BS you indoctrinated fools.
Title: Re: Shadow/cash/coin called on trolling Blocknet (it's why) on Oct 21st. 100% Post by: Anise on November 02, 2014, 05:24:44 AM Nice way to go SDC guys. Shit all over the altcoin section some more with bullshit. ::) My thoughts too. The op called this clearly days before they started. He has a great crystal ball. Title: Re: Shadow/cash/coin called on trolling Blocknet (it's why) on Oct 21st. 100% Post by: CryptoGretzky on November 02, 2014, 07:21:27 AM Whoever invest in SDC is waiting to get dumped on by those trolls. SDC is the biggest scam ever and they are shaking in their boots. If you look at their rich list, you will know it's totally controlled by 3-4 people at most.
http://sdc.blockexplorer.cc/richlist/index.php?min=1000 STAY CLEAR OF SDC if you value your coins. Title: Re: Shadow/cash/coin called on trolling Blocknet (it's why) on Oct 21st. 100% Post by: LongAndShort on November 02, 2014, 07:31:38 AM Whoever invest in SDC is waiting to get dumped on by those trolls. SDC is the biggest scam ever and they are shaking in their boots. If you look at their rich list, you will know it's totally controlled by 3-4 people at most. You are going to have to do much better then that to mess with a modest and real project i'm afriad. http://sdc.blockexplorer.cc/richlist/index.php?min=1000 STAY CLEAR OF SDC if you value your coins. You're are putting all of this on Shadow, a respectable project and community when Shadow has nothing to do with any of the shit you are on about. And you try justifying it somehow in that empty scull of yours..with lies and hypocrisies..you have plenty of mental health issues and should really reconsider what it is you are trying to say.. All of you are sick people and need plenty of help! Somehow its Shadows fault you all keep choosing shitty coin projects that are full of greedy incompetent development teams..its not my fault its not Shadows fault. Its all on you twits. Grow up and stop lashing out at everyone and everything because you are to stupid to do your homework. And stop crying to us when you house of cards keeps falling over!..Geeze learn a lesson for once in your shitty existence you kid yourself into believing is a life. Title: Re: Shadow/cash/coin called on trolling Blocknet (it's why) on Oct 21st. 100% Post by: Bobbs on November 02, 2014, 07:43:17 AM Whoever invest in SDC is waiting to get dumped on by those trolls. SDC is the biggest scam ever and they are shaking in their boots. If you look at their rich list, you will know it's totally controlled by 3-4 people at most. You are going to have to do much better then that to mess with a modest and real project i'm afriad. http://sdc.blockexplorer.cc/richlist/index.php?min=1000 STAY CLEAR OF SDC if you value your coins. You're are putting all of this on Shadow, a respectable project and community when Shadow has nothing to do with any of the shit you are on about. And you try justifying it somehow in that empty scull of yours..with lies and hypocrisies..you have plenty of mental health issues and should really reconsider what it is you are trying to say.. All of you are sick people and need plenty of help! Somehow its Shadows fault you all keep choosing shitty coin projects that are full of greedy incompetent development teams..its not my fault its not Shadows fault. Its all on you twits grow up and stop lashing out at everyone and everything because you are to stupid to do your homework!! Op called this shit before it happened. 00smurf , yourself , and cool storyteller started this shit off. Very fucking respectable. No none of sdc trolls ever attack and fud. They don't start the shit. Nope innocent angels the lot. Wait didn't you troll xst for days? Who has a mental health issue? Days on end? You sickos need to stay in your own coins thread and leave everyone else the fuck alone. Title: Re: Shadow/cash/coin called on trolling Blocknet (it's why) on Oct 21st. 100% Post by: LongAndShort on November 02, 2014, 07:52:53 AM Whoever invest in SDC is waiting to get dumped on by those trolls. SDC is the biggest scam ever and they are shaking in their boots. If you look at their rich list, you will know it's totally controlled by 3-4 people at most. You are going to have to do much better then that to mess with a modest and real project i'm afriad. http://sdc.blockexplorer.cc/richlist/index.php?min=1000 STAY CLEAR OF SDC if you value your coins. You're are putting all of this on Shadow, a respectable project and community when Shadow has nothing to do with any of the shit you are on about. And you try justifying it somehow in that empty scull of yours..with lies and hypocrisies..you have plenty of mental health issues and should really reconsider what it is you are trying to say.. All of you are sick people and need plenty of help! Somehow its Shadows fault you all keep choosing shitty coin projects that are full of greedy incompetent development teams..its not my fault its not Shadows fault. Its all on you twits grow up and stop lashing out at everyone and everything because you are to stupid to do your homework!! Op called this shit before it happened. 00smurf , yourself , and cool storyteller started this shit off. Very fucking respectable. No none of sdc trolls ever attack and fud. They don't start the shit. Nope innocent angels the lot. Wait didn't you troll xst for days? Who has a mental health issue? Days on end? You sickos need to stay in your own coins thread and leave everyone else the fuck alone. Don't put your life savings of $20 into a shitcoin project and you will find you wont be a crying baby, blamming the big bad longandshort, coolstoryteller and 00smurf when your shitcoin is exposed for the garbage it is! Maybe then you wont find yourself lashing out at a respectable project to get at a few individuals for something that this industry sorely needs. Its a fact its dip shits like you ruining this place trying to protect your shitcoin scum developments! Shame on you! Title: Re: Shadow/cash/coin called on trolling Blocknet (it's why) on Oct 21st. 100% Post by: ProfX on November 02, 2014, 07:54:55 AM Karma is real. I know SDC was producing a good part of the FUD, aside from Spotdick. SDC will always be a shitcoin to me
Title: scammers playing dumb with diversion games and Trolling / Spamming *STILL Post by: Spoetnik on November 02, 2014, 08:04:16 AM I was banned not long ago for telling people to shut up about SDC.. i didn't care either way what side people were on.
Check my post history.. proof. you guys have been trying for a while to lure people into a diversion game to cover your scam. i should post some PM's i get about this too.. none of you have any credibility and neither does your Trolling games attack on some other coin. has it occurred to you all people were pissed off about trying to scam us all for almost a million dollars ? http://i57.tinypic.com/sobwxh.jpg Title: Re: scammers playing dumb with diversion games and Trolling / Spamming *STILL Post by: ProfX on November 02, 2014, 08:13:14 AM I was banned not long ago for telling people to shut up about SDC.. i didn't care either way what side people were on. Check my post history.. proof. you guys have been trying for a while to lure people into a diversion game to cover your scam. i should post some PM's i get about this too.. none of you have any credibility and neither does your Trolling games attack on some other coin. has it occurred to you all people were pissed off about trying to scam us all for almost a million dollars ? http://i57.tinypic.com/sobwxh.jpg Trust: -4: -2 / +1(1) Warning: Trade with extreme caution! Ignore Like any forum on the internet, you consider individuals like this scum of the boards as some would call it, and skip over their entire post all together because there is a good chance they dont contribute at all Title: Re: scammers playing dumb with diversion games and Trolling / Spamming *STILL Post by: Spoetnik on November 02, 2014, 08:15:56 AM I was banned not long ago for telling people to shut up about SDC.. i didn't care either way what side people were on. Check my post history.. proof. you guys have been trying for a while to lure people into a diversion game to cover your scam. i should post some PM's i get about this too.. none of you have any credibility and neither does your Trolling games attack on some other coin. has it occurred to you all people were pissed off about trying to scam us all for almost a million dollars ? Trust: -4: -2 / +1(1) Warning: Trade with extreme caution! Ignore Like any forum on the internet, you consider individuals like this scum of the boards as some would call it, and skip over their entire post all together because there is a good chance they dont contribute at all and.. Quote Name: ProfX Posts: 12 Activity: 12 Position: Newbie Date Registered: October 31, 2014, 08:16:38 AM PS: seems to me all you guys are the ones with a negative Trade rating. Now THAT is pretty funny.. yours is -6 and you just got here HAhhahahaaaaaaa http://i61.tinypic.com/dxzu3t.jpg Title: Re: Shadow/cash/coin called on trolling Blocknet (it's why) on Oct 21st. 100% Post by: LongAndShort on November 02, 2014, 08:16:08 AM Karma is real. I know SDC was producing a good part of the FUD, aside from Spotdick. SDC will always be a shitcoin to me Thats cool, support your premined trash then keep taking hits on the ipo, ico crack pipe getting mad when when the people behind it are found questionable. Fact is xc made a premine, they then drastically reduced the cap but kept the same amount of premine. They also haven't been transparent at all with the premine yet you believe whole heartedly that it will be any different with BLOCK. And now a known pumper is known to be saying he is on his payroll but not just that, look at the coins that person is involved with..the same coins in the blocknet!!! ding ding ding. Well its just all to much for me to trust when its just easier to walk away. I picked all of this from the beginning, im seasoned and not that it takes a rocket scientist to work it out. Most just follow the hype though thats why they get punished! And you are still wondering why so many people are saying its a bad looking situation now!! oh yeah Shadows a shitcoin though ...wtf ever. Look at apple it had a slow start look at bitcoin it too had a slow start.. You have to question something that comes out of the gate exploding with hype! You should and you would have if you weren't a greedy little idiot! You might have seen all the potential danger if not for the well pitched ideals it presents. Some of us here are not kids and we remember all the scams through history with stocks, ponzis, banks, lenders, grifters and confidence men. They are just being repeated here and if you would just look properly you would see it all! Do yourself a favor and get back on your main account take the hit and move to some better less questionable projects. Support this industry properly and stop chasing the crack pipe.. I promise you will become richer much faster once you do that and stop blaming others because you didn't see the obvious to begin with! Title: Re: scammers playing dumb with diversion games and Trolling / Spamming *STILL Post by: ProfX on November 02, 2014, 08:30:11 AM I was banned not long ago for telling people to shut up about SDC.. i didn't care either way what side people were on. Check my post history.. proof. you guys have been trying for a while to lure people into a diversion game to cover your scam. i should post some PM's i get about this too.. none of you have any credibility and neither does your Trolling games attack on some other coin. has it occurred to you all people were pissed off about trying to scam us all for almost a million dollars ? Trust: -4: -2 / +1(1) Warning: Trade with extreme caution! Ignore Like any forum on the internet, you consider individuals like this scum of the boards as some would call it, and skip over their entire post all together because there is a good chance they dont contribute at all and.. Quote Name: ProfX Posts: 12 Activity: 12 Position: Newbie Date Registered: October 31, 2014, 08:16:38 AM PS: seems to me all you guys are the ones with a negative Trade rating. Now THAT is pretty funny.. yours is -6 and you just got here HAhhahahaaaaaaa http://i61.tinypic.com/dxzu3t.jpg really dude? nice chop Title: Re: scammers playing dumb with diversion games and Trolling / Spamming *STILL Post by: Spoetnik on November 02, 2014, 08:43:02 AM I was banned not long ago for telling people to shut up about SDC.. i didn't care either way what side people were on. Check my post history.. proof. you guys have been trying for a while to lure people into a diversion game to cover your scam. i should post some PM's i get about this too.. none of you have any credibility and neither does your Trolling games attack on some other coin. has it occurred to you all people were pissed off about trying to scam us all for almost a million dollars ? Trust: -4: -2 / +1(1) Warning: Trade with extreme caution! Ignore Like any forum on the internet, you consider individuals like this scum of the boards as some would call it, and skip over their entire post all together because there is a good chance they dont contribute at all and.. Quote Name: ProfX Posts: 12 Activity: 12 Position: Newbie Date Registered: October 31, 2014, 08:16:38 AM PS: seems to me all you guys are the ones with a negative Trade rating. Now THAT is pretty funny.. yours is -6 and you just got here HAhhahahaaaaaaa http://i61.tinypic.com/dxzu3t.jpg really dude? nice chop nice rating.. negative six ! and i left the chopped off text to get attention to it.. i know you would bite ;) you FAIL and you got owned and you say nice chop ? LOL Title: Re: Shadow/cash/coin called on trolling Blocknet (it's why) on Oct 21st. 100% Post by: BitcoiNaked on November 02, 2014, 12:16:10 PM Shadowcoin punks, get a life fags
Title: Re: Shadow/cash/coin called on trolling Blocknet (it's why) on Oct 21st. 100% Post by: Bobbs on November 02, 2014, 02:33:10 PM PookieLax31 aka Boh on twitter bragging how they fucked up Blocknet.
https://i.imgur.com/EEc9xf2.png Title: Re: Shadow/cash/coin called on trolling Blocknet (it's why) on Oct 21st. 100% Post by: Bobbs on November 02, 2014, 02:47:35 PM Well one of my friends has logs and such on SDC discussions. I'll leave it to him to post them all over the forum but here is what he said. These are the same guys that now troll XC. Go figure?
Quote I have logs of SDC dev discussing a merger with XC.. Wasn't going to release them But maybe I should Title: Re: Shadow/cash/coin called on trolling Blocknet (it's why) on Oct 21st. 100% Post by: LongAndShort on November 02, 2014, 02:50:26 PM PookieLax31 aka Boh on twitter bragging how they fucked up Blocknet. https://i.imgur.com/EEc9xf2.png Yeah i'm sure a ton of people are bragging about that right now lol Title: Re: Shadow/cash/coin called on trolling Blocknet (it's why) on Oct 21st. 100% Post by: bitcoin carpenter on November 02, 2014, 02:55:16 PM This will be fun to look back on in a month.
Can't wait to find out who the heroes are and who are the villains.. Even better would be if all the scammers were outed and sent to an Internet free hell. Title: Re: Shadow/cash/coin called on trolling Blocknet (it's why) on Oct 21st. 100% Post by: BitcoiNaked on November 02, 2014, 03:43:17 PM It seems this smear campaign was planned by some shadow coin supporters with https://twitter.com/CryptoBoh playing a nice roll in it. Retards
Title: Re: Shadow/cash/coin called on trolling Blocknet (it's why) on Oct 21st. 100% Post by: TrangLee on November 02, 2014, 04:05:46 PM It seems this smear campaign was planned by some shadow coin supporters with https://twitter.com/CryptoBoh playing a nice roll in it. Retards Yes it is a plan to get BTC. They wanted the blocknet to get refunded and they will announce their fatally flawed zk-snark/zerocash big news on or near the same time. They need as much btc to flow in to dump before everyone knows about the trust issue (dev has to be trusted to destroy key that allows unlimited coin minting.) and the bload issue. SDC already has a slow network and they have to ask often for people to stake coins. Imagine what happens when thousands more use zk-snarks with it's massive bloat. Lol screeching halt to the network. Non of the zk-snark feature buyers is planning on holding coins in wallets. They plan to use the network with the anon feature. Epic Fail. But they will have gotten shit tons of btc before that kind of news and complaints arise. Imagine the forks as the network strains way more than it does now and parts fork due to the insane long tx times. Good god. Title: Re: Shadow/cash/coin called on trolling Blocknet (it's why) on Oct 21st. 100% Post by: Emilyok on November 02, 2014, 04:11:20 PM It seems this smear campaign was planned by some shadow coin supporters with https://twitter.com/CryptoBoh playing a nice roll in it. Retards Yes it is a plan to get BTC. They wanted the blocknet to get refunded and they will announce their fatally flawed zk-snark/zerocash big news on or near the same time. They need as much btc to flow in to dump before everyone knows about the trust issue (dev has to be trusted to destroy key that allows unlimited coin minting.) and the bload issue. SDC already has a slow network and they have to ask often for people to stake coins. Imagine what happens when thousands more use zk-snarks with it's massive bloat. Lol screeching halt to the network. Non of the zk-snark feature buyers is planning on holding coins in wallets. They plan to use the network with the anon feature. Epic Fail. But they will have gotten shit tons of btc before that kind of news and complaints arise. Imagine the forks as the network strains way more than it does now and parts fork due to the insane long tx times. Good god. This tranglee guy you are hilarious. Every post you make is to fud shadow. Cos of guys like you i found the project. Fail! lool :D Title: Re: Shadow/cash/coin called on trolling Blocknet (it's why) on Oct 21st. 100% Post by: 00Smurf on November 02, 2014, 04:12:06 PM It seems this smear campaign was planned by some shadow coin supporters with https://twitter.com/CryptoBoh playing a nice roll in it. Retards Yes it is a plan to get BTC. They wanted the blocknet to get refunded and they will announce their fatally flawed zk-snark/zerocash big news on or near the same time. They need as much btc to flow in to dump before everyone knows about the trust issue (dev has to be trusted to destroy key that allows unlimited coin minting.) and the bload issue. SDC already has a slow network and they have to ask often for people to stake coins. Imagine what happens when thousands more use zk-snarks with it's massive bloat. Lol screeching halt to the network. Non of the zk-snark feature buyers is planning on holding coins in wallets. They plan to use the network with the anon feature. Epic Fail. But they will have gotten shit tons of btc before that kind of news and complaints arise. Imagine the forks as the network strains way more than it does now and parts fork due to the insane long tx times. Good god. lol come on man, wait for a whitepaper before you spout nonsense, when has shadow talked about a slow network, ours is fine. Every POS coin asks people to stake, thats what your supposed to do on a PROOF-of Stake coin. Title: Re: Shadow/cash/coin called on trolling Blocknet (it's why) on Oct 21st. 100% Post by: TrangLee on November 02, 2014, 04:27:06 PM lol come on man, wait for a whitepaper before you spot nonsense, when has shadow talked about a slow network, ours is fine. Every POS coin asks people to stake, thats what your supposed to do on a PROOF-of Stake coin. Yes but when 60-80% of coins are held on exchange by 3 or 4 guys it leaves the remainder to carry the network. That carrying part is the staking coins. When you and trolls and pookie longnshort keep coins at the ready for dumping you all ask everyone else to keep coins in wallet. What's gonna happen when the zk-snark and ring sig bloat hits this already straining setup? Title: Re: Shadow/cash/coin called on trolling Blocknet (it's why) on Oct 21st. 100% Post by: SebSebastian on November 02, 2014, 04:29:08 PM lol come on man, wait for a whitepaper before you spot nonsense, when has shadow talked about a slow network, ours is fine. Every POS coin asks people to stake, thats what your supposed to do on a PROOF-of Stake coin. Yes but when 60-80% of coins are held on exchange by 3 or 4 guys it leaves the remainder to carry the network. That carrying part is the staking coins. When you and trolls and pookie longnshort keep coins at the ready for dumping you all ask everyone else to keep coins in wallet. What's gonna happen when the zk-snark and ring sig bloat hits this already straining setup? Where is the evidence that it is controlled by whales? No one has produced any. They point to the rich list and then say that 3 or 4 people have split their wallets up. It's an absurd argument because it cannot be proved and could be used against any coin in existence. But it seems if you post something on this forum ad nauseam even intelligent people start to believe it. Goebells would be proud. (see i can do it too!) Title: Re: Shadow/cash/coin called on trolling Blocknet (it's why) on Oct 21st. 100% Post by: 00Smurf on November 02, 2014, 04:34:07 PM lol come on man, wait for a whitepaper before you spot nonsense, when has shadow talked about a slow network, ours is fine. Every POS coin asks people to stake, thats what your supposed to do on a PROOF-of Stake coin. Yes but when 60-80% of coins are held on exchange by 3 or 4 guys it leaves the remainder to carry the network. That carrying part is the staking coins. When you and trolls and pookie longnshort keep coins at the ready for dumping you all ask everyone else to keep coins in wallet. What's gonna happen when the zk-snark and ring sig bloat hits this already straining setup? does ring sig's slow down xmr and bbr? they use them, have you bitched at them? Now i'm one of these huge whales and i store my coins on the exchange? you know this how exactly? My coins stake 24/7 and have been doing so since i first bought shadow months ago. I have 10-15k sdc on bittrex that i use to play swings with. I guess that makes me a bad person then. Title: Re: Shadow/cash/coin called on trolling Blocknet (it's why) on Oct 21st. 100% Post by: TrangLee on November 02, 2014, 04:42:48 PM lol come on man, wait for a whitepaper before you spot nonsense, when has shadow talked about a slow network, ours is fine. Every POS coin asks people to stake, thats what your supposed to do on a PROOF-of Stake coin. Yes but when 60-80% of coins are held on exchange by 3 or 4 guys it leaves the remainder to carry the network. That carrying part is the staking coins. When you and trolls and pookie longnshort keep coins at the ready for dumping you all ask everyone else to keep coins in wallet. What's gonna happen when the zk-snark and ring sig bloat hits this already straining setup? does ring sig's slow down xmr and bbr? they use them, have you bitched at them? Now i'm one of these huge whales and i store my coins on the exchange? you know this how exactly? My coins stake 24/7 and have been doing so since i first bought shadow months ago. I have 10-15k sdc on bittrex that i use to play swings with. I guess that makes me a bad person then. Oh play innocent victim 00smurf. You posted and leaked logs to start the troll fest going. Who are you trying to shit here? No idea on your coins and most people buy/trading/mining coins do so for money and it doesn't make them bad for doing so. But trolling and trashing and posting conversations to damage and destroy other people's projects and premeditating it is down right evil. I posted about SDC planning it weeks ago. Sure as shitting it's been executed to a T. Largely kicked off by you and trolls. Yeah you accidentally posted those logs. Title: Re: Shadow/cash/coin called on trolling Blocknet (it's why) on Oct 21st. 100% Post by: SebSebastian on November 02, 2014, 04:46:28 PM lol come on man, wait for a whitepaper before you spot nonsense, when has shadow talked about a slow network, ours is fine. Every POS coin asks people to stake, thats what your supposed to do on a PROOF-of Stake coin. Yes but when 60-80% of coins are held on exchange by 3 or 4 guys it leaves the remainder to carry the network. That carrying part is the staking coins. When you and trolls and pookie longnshort keep coins at the ready for dumping you all ask everyone else to keep coins in wallet. What's gonna happen when the zk-snark and ring sig bloat hits this already straining setup? does ring sig's slow down xmr and bbr? they use them, have you bitched at them? Now i'm one of these huge whales and i store my coins on the exchange? you know this how exactly? My coins stake 24/7 and have been doing so since i first bought shadow months ago. I have 10-15k sdc on bittrex that i use to play swings with. I guess that makes me a bad person then. Oh play innocent victim 00smurf. You posted and leaked logs to start the troll fest going. Who are you trying to shit here? No idea on your coins and most people buy/trading/mining coins do so for money and it doesn't make them bad for doing so. But trolling and trashing and posting conversations to damage and destroy other people's projects and premeditating it is down right evil. I posted about SDC planning it weeks ago. Sure as shitting it's been executed to a T. Largely kicked off by you and trolls. Yeah you accidentally posted those logs. I see you still haven't answered my question: Where is the evidence that it is controlled by whales? No one has produced any. They point to the rich list and then say that 3 or 4 people have split their wallets up. It's an absurd argument because it cannot be proved and could be used against any coin in existence. But it seems if you post something on this forum ad nauseam even intelligent people start to believe it. Goebells would be proud. (see i can do it too!) Title: Re: Shadow/cash/coin called on trolling Blocknet (it's why) on Oct 21st. 100% Post by: LongAndShort on November 02, 2014, 05:01:30 PM lol come on man, wait for a whitepaper before you spot nonsense, when has shadow talked about a slow network, ours is fine. Every POS coin asks people to stake, thats what your supposed to do on a PROOF-of Stake coin. Yes but when 60-80% of coins are held on exchange by 3 or 4 guys it leaves the remainder to carry the network. That carrying part is the staking coins. When you and trolls and pookie longnshort keep coins at the ready for dumping you all ask everyone else to keep coins in wallet. What's gonna happen when the zk-snark and ring sig bloat hits this already straining setup? does ring sig's slow down xmr and bbr? they use them, have you bitched at them? Now i'm one of these huge whales and i store my coins on the exchange? you know this how exactly? My coins stake 24/7 and have been doing so since i first bought shadow months ago. I have 10-15k sdc on bittrex that i use to play swings with. I guess that makes me a bad person then. Oh play innocent victim 00smurf. You posted and leaked logs to start the troll fest going. Who are you trying to shit here? No idea on your coins and most people buy/trading/mining coins do so for money and it doesn't make them bad for doing so. But trolling and trashing and posting conversations to damage and destroy other people's projects and premeditating it is down right evil. I posted about SDC planning it weeks ago. Sure as shitting it's been executed to a T. Largely kicked off by you and trolls. Yeah you accidentally posted those logs. Grow up idiot! I guess you think snowden is a troll too right! tossa you pinning this on a project when its a few individuals you hate is what infants do and you are nothing but that! we can have this stupid argument all day but all you're proving is that you are mad and lashing out at a project some of us like, as though that hurts us! You are terrorising an entire community because you are mad at a few of its members who also own the coins and supoort some of the projects you do to! ..You have completely lost the plot. i came to xst with evidence your dev was not really presenting something that could work but you all bashed me ALL of you but he thanked me and i moved on i did the same with teh blocknet i asked dan some quetions in a thread, he answered me i thanked him and have moved on. and thats somehow shadows fault..grow the fuck up kid you are unwell and need to mature. There is 30 threads made on blocknet scam and not one of them are mine or smurfs! so get over it and focus your canons on the real culrpits here YOU! Title: Re: Shadow/cash/coin called on trolling Blocknet (it's why) on Oct 21st. 100% Post by: TrangLee on November 02, 2014, 05:04:39 PM I know for a fact trollsroyce has over a million SDC coins and has even stated it's different because he is "an angel investor" and that he is only investing it the tech not to make profit. Bullshit. I have a friend who knows trolls very very well and I won't out them. Trolls owns the coins and tried to justify it when pookie and he was trolling another whale for holding a large amount of another coin. Some fucking Angel. Lol
Title: Re: Shadow/cash/coin called on trolling Blocknet (it's why) on Oct 21st. 100% Post by: LongAndShort on November 02, 2014, 05:05:51 PM I know for a fact trollsroyce has over a million SDC coins and has even stated it's different because he is "an angel investor" and that he is only investing it the tech not to make profit. Bullshit. I have a friend who knows trolls very very well and I won't out them. Trolls owns the coins and tried to justify it when pookie and he was trolling another whale for holding a large amount of another coin. Some fucking Angel. Lol You know nothing thats why you keep playing guessing games as a week attempt to discredit a project that is not yet even in the market for attention yet! You like so many others cannot distinguish the difference between project and a community member Title: Re: Shadow/cash/coin called on trolling Blocknet (it's why) on Oct 21st. 100% Post by: SebSebastian on November 02, 2014, 05:05:59 PM I know for a fact trollsroyce has over a million SDC coins and has even stated it's different because he is "an angel investor" and that he is only investing it the tech not to make profit. Bullshit. I have a friend who knows trolls very very well and I won't out them. Trolls owns the coins and tried to justify it when pookie and he was trolling another whale for holding a large amount of another coin. Some fucking Angel. Lol Are we supposed to take your word for it. Almost all of your posts are fudding shadow. Where is your evidence? Title: Re: Shadow/cash/coin called on trolling Blocknet (it's why) on Oct 21st. 100% Post by: TrangLee on November 02, 2014, 05:10:31 PM 30 blocknet troll threads that where started by SDC or "evidence" given to and encouraging spoetnik to do your dirty work. I called this whole thing weeks before. You just tried to distance your self by using 3rd parties. But 00smurf is right at ground zero along with you and boh. So fucking obvious to everyone but you. There are even twitter logs of boh/pookie bragging.
Title: Re: Shadow/cash/coin called on trolling Blocknet (it's why) on Oct 21st. 100% Post by: TrangLee on November 02, 2014, 05:13:34 PM I know for a fact trollsroyce has over a million SDC coins and has even stated it's different because he is "an angel investor" and that he is only investing it the tech not to make profit. Bullshit. I have a friend who knows trolls very very well and I won't out them. Trolls owns the coins and tried to justify it when pookie and he was trolling another whale for holding a large amount of another coin. Some fucking Angel. Lol Are we supposed to take your word for it. Almost all of your posts are fudding shadow. Where is your evidence? And all yours fanboy it. Read this thread and poopielaxative31's thread where I called all this out before you guys carried it out. Plenty of evidence. Title: Re: Shadow/cash/coin called on trolling Blocknet (it's why) on Oct 21st. 100% Post by: SebSebastian on November 02, 2014, 05:14:25 PM 30 blocknet troll threads that where started by SDC or "evidence" given to and encouraging spoetnik to do your dirty work. I called this whole thing weeks before. You just tried to distance your self by using 3rd parties. But 00smurf is right at ground zero along with you and boh. So fucking obvious to everyone but you. There are even twitter logs of boh/pookie bragging. You stated that trollsroyce has over 1m coins. Please don't change the subject again, I'd like to know if you have any evidence to back up that claim. Title: Re: Shadow/cash/coin called on trolling Blocknet (it's why) on Oct 21st. 100% Post by: Edward Snowden on November 02, 2014, 05:36:59 PM 30 blocknet troll threads that where started by SDC or "evidence" given to and encouraging spoetnik to do your dirty work. I called this whole thing weeks before. You just tried to distance your self by using 3rd parties. But 00smurf is right at ground zero along with you and boh. So fucking obvious to everyone but you. There are even twitter logs of boh/pookie bragging. You stated that trollsroyce has over 1m coins. Please don't change the subject again, I'd like to know if you have any evidence to back up that claim. I have some but I wont publicize it to protect the innocent. It's a pretty well know fact that he does though. TrollsRoyce does. He was also a member of Bobsurplus' group. He also pumped XC with Bob and other "whales". They split when Bob wouldn't pump SDC anymore. Remember almost 40k SDC? Yes TrollsRoyce has over a million SDC. Boh has a hefty sack full too. Don't delude yourselves about these guys. Angel's or devils or whales or whatever they are all about making BTC in trun for $. Nothing more nothing less it has always been about $. Title: Re: Shadow/cash/coin called on trolling Blocknet (it's why) on Oct 21st. 100% Post by: SebSebastian on November 02, 2014, 05:44:08 PM 30 blocknet troll threads that where started by SDC or "evidence" given to and encouraging spoetnik to do your dirty work. I called this whole thing weeks before. You just tried to distance your self by using 3rd parties. But 00smurf is right at ground zero along with you and boh. So fucking obvious to everyone but you. There are even twitter logs of boh/pookie bragging. You stated that trollsroyce has over 1m coins. Please don't change the subject again, I'd like to know if you have any evidence to back up that claim. I have some but I wont publicize it to protect the innocent. It's a pretty well know fact that he does though. TrollsRoyce does. He was also a member of Bobsurplus' group. He also pumped XC with Bob and other "whales". They split when Bob wouldn't pump SDC anymore. Remember almost 40k SDC? Yes TrollsRoyce has over a million SDC. Boh has a hefty sack full too. Don't delude yourselves about these guys. Angel's or devils or whales or whatever they are all about making BTC in trun for $. Nothing more nothing less it has always been about $. If you have no evidence that you can present to back up your claims then they're worthless. No amount of rhetoric changes that. If you're really so worried about protecting people you would help them by presenting the evidence. But, what's more likely, is that there is none. Title: Re: Shadow/cash/coin called on trolling Blocknet (it's why) on Oct 21st. 100% Post by: Edward Snowden on November 02, 2014, 05:51:52 PM 30 blocknet troll threads that where started by SDC or "evidence" given to and encouraging spoetnik to do your dirty work. I called this whole thing weeks before. You just tried to distance your self by using 3rd parties. But 00smurf is right at ground zero along with you and boh. So fucking obvious to everyone but you. There are even twitter logs of boh/pookie bragging. You stated that trollsroyce has over 1m coins. Please don't change the subject again, I'd like to know if you have any evidence to back up that claim. I have some but I wont publicize it to protect the innocent. It's a pretty well know fact that he does though. TrollsRoyce does. He was also a member of Bobsurplus' group. He also pumped XC with Bob and other "whales". They split when Bob wouldn't pump SDC anymore. Remember almost 40k SDC? Yes TrollsRoyce has over a million SDC. Boh has a hefty sack full too. Don't delude yourselves about these guys. Angel's or devils or whales or whatever they are all about making BTC in trun for $. Nothing more nothing less it has always been about $. If you have no evidence that you can present to back up your claims then they're worthless. No amount of rhetoric changes that. If you're really so worried about protecting people you would help them by presenting the evidence. But, what's more likely, is that there is none. So every news reporter reveals their source? Most news reports will not show their sources. I don't need to reveal anything to you. People are free to make their own conclusions. What proof do you have that he doesn't own the coins? Most people can see the SDC goes out of its way to troll and harass other coins and projects Title: Re: Shadow/cash/coin called on trolling Blocknet (it's why) on Oct 21st. 100% Post by: SebSebastian on November 02, 2014, 05:56:14 PM 30 blocknet troll threads that where started by SDC or "evidence" given to and encouraging spoetnik to do your dirty work. I called this whole thing weeks before. You just tried to distance your self by using 3rd parties. But 00smurf is right at ground zero along with you and boh. So fucking obvious to everyone but you. There are even twitter logs of boh/pookie bragging. You stated that trollsroyce has over 1m coins. Please don't change the subject again, I'd like to know if you have any evidence to back up that claim. I have some but I wont publicize it to protect the innocent. It's a pretty well know fact that he does though. TrollsRoyce does. He was also a member of Bobsurplus' group. He also pumped XC with Bob and other "whales". They split when Bob wouldn't pump SDC anymore. Remember almost 40k SDC? Yes TrollsRoyce has over a million SDC. Boh has a hefty sack full too. Don't delude yourselves about these guys. Angel's or devils or whales or whatever they are all about making BTC in trun for $. Nothing more nothing less it has always been about $. If you have no evidence that you can present to back up your claims then they're worthless. No amount of rhetoric changes that. If you're really so worried about protecting people you would help them by presenting the evidence. But, what's more likely, is that there is none. So every news reporter reveals their source? Most news reports will not show their sources. I don't need to reveal anything to you. People are free to make their own conclusions. What proof do you have that he doesn't own the coins? Most people can see the SDC goes out of its way to troll and harass other coins and projects And my conclusion is that you are just another troll with an agenda making baseless accusations against another project. I take your claims as seriously as I do any with absolutely no evidence to back them up. Nice try though. By the way, did you know that 47% of all Dogecoin is owned by François Hollande? I'm not going to reveal my sources, to protect the children, but needless to say I've seen the evidence and it's a pretty well known fact. Title: Re: Shadow/cash/coin called on trolling Blocknet (it's why) on Oct 21st. 100% Post by: Danny Madoff on November 02, 2014, 06:01:22 PM I'm pretty sure the devs here are for real. Usually scam devs won't combat fud and would have left by now. We just need to get past the miner dumps and fud chumps. Then we will see what these devs have in store for LXC. I read I lot of the posts. The coins code seem to be in working order and I saw nothing fishy in the code. I'm buying some off the exchange as my miners are too small for this kind of hash rate. :o Tranglee's first post above was made around the same time Bobsurplus had his account banned. Tranglee is known for repeating information from Bob's group. Once a coin is pumped and dumped Tranglee is one of the bagholder support accounts. He stays in the thread and lets other unsuspecting bagholders believe that everything will be OK and the price will somehow rebound. Check his history all former plays of Bobs group LXC, XST. Everytime a real scam is exposed Tranglee is the most vocal opponent of the evidence. The blocknet situation is no different than LXC or XST. You've been exposed Tranglee i mean Bobsurplus people would do right to give you negative feeback for being a shill pump support account. -Dan Title: Re: Shadow/cash/coin called on trolling Blocknet (it's why) on Oct 21st. 100% Post by: Black Fire on November 02, 2014, 06:23:05 PM You've been exposed Tranglee i mean Bobsurplus people would do right to give you negative feeback for being a shill pump support account. -Dan feeback huh? Well the OP stated this stuff would happen and by whom and it has after he posted it. That deserves + feedback IMO. This coming from a former SDC fan and supporter. No way can I support people that does this nasty kind of things to other people and coins. Title: Re: Shadow/cash/coin called on trolling Blocknet (it's why) on Oct 21st. 100% Post by: EmilioMann on November 02, 2014, 06:26:12 PM why the shadowcoin community members talk so ill of BobSurplus if coolstoryteller aka trollsroyce and pookielax31 aka Mr. Boh, the two whales who own 50% of all shadowcoins are or were part of that group?
http://i60.tinypic.com/bhbwvs.jpg Title: Re: Shadow/cash/coin called on trolling Blocknet (it's why) on Oct 21st. 100% Post by: TrangLee on November 02, 2014, 06:32:59 PM Tranglee is the most vocal opponent of the evidence. The blocknet situation is no different than LXC or XST. You've been exposed Tranglee i mean Bobsurplus people would do right to give you negative feeback for being a shill pump support account. -Dan Seriously? Baby troll danny did your feet get wet enough yet? Ok to answer you even though I shouldn't. Perhaps those are just some of the coins that SDC trolls and I outed you guys on. I'd bet on it. You do know I was an LXC and SDC fan at first. They launched right around the same time with SDC going first because the LXC guys had to re do their launch. I was into both until SDC started a massive troll fest/fud against LXC. Fully dropped from SDC when they tried to claim the 1st Staking Android wallet. Every time I see SDC fud and troll something I let the rest of the world know about their true motivations. I give them knowledge about all the slimy shit you guys pull. I'm gonna keep doing it. I will out your BS every time I see it. This needed desire to troll and bring negativity actually does way more damage to SDC. Just in me it created an issue. Imagine all the others who see all this and think "No fucking way I'm going near SDC". I'm vocal most are silent. Title: Re: Shadow/cash/coin called on trolling Blocknet (it's why) on Oct 21st. 100% Post by: SebSebastian on November 02, 2014, 06:39:38 PM why the shadowcoin community members talk so ill of BobSurplus if coolstoryteller aka trollsroyce and pookielax31 aka Mr. Boh, the two whales who own 50% of all shadowcoins are or were part of that group? You stated that trollsroyce has over 1m coins. Please don't change the subject again, I'd like to know if you have any evidence to back up that claim. Title: Re: Shadow/cash/coin called on trolling Blocknet (it's why) on Oct 21st. 100% Post by: Coolstoryteller on November 02, 2014, 07:06:20 PM why the shadowcoin community members talk so ill of BobSurplus if coolstoryteller aka trollsroyce and pookielax31 aka Mr. Boh, the two whales who own 50% of all shadowcoins are or were part of that group? http://i60.tinypic.com/bhbwvs.jpg EmilioMann, TrangLee both are Bobs bitches spewing out bullshit whenever they get a chance to divert attention from the real issues like devs overstating claims. Weird thing is the issues that were exposed by longandshort and spoetnik have evidence backing them up. In fact your dev "hondo" thanked longandshort for his findings and you keep chanting that it's fud. Here's a quick lesson on how to diffuse fud. You provide evidence. Longandshort with Stealthcoin Here is the lead XST developer thanking longandshort. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=681725.msg9182120#msg9182120 "Again I would like to thank those who have pointed out publicly a critical deficiency in Chandran signatures as they apply to crypto-currencies [1]. Namely, the deficiency is that Chandran signatures are untraceable. I would especially like to mention that LongAndShort's relentless research into the matter was impressive and genuinely helpful." Hondo (XST Lead Developer) Here is the XST developer, "Hondo" thanking longandshort why do you keep engaging in personal attacks on longandshort and myself when your developer is grateful for the findings? Simple answer is ignorance. You are so ignorant to the facts and that you don't even acknowledge your own developers statement. BobSurplus's Pump and Dump group I was never apart of his group and I've told both of you countless times and you refuse to accept the evidence presented to you. I'm only restating my claims here so people can see the level of dipshit runs deep between you two. Your credibility just keeps going down the drain backing up a known scam artist Robert Duskes Jr aka BobSurplus. http://www.ripoffreport.com/r/robert-duskes-scamstopperscom/1324-lexington-avenue-286-new-york-10128/robert-duskes-scamstopperscom-robert-bradley-bob-duskes-robert-bradley-duskes-used-to-646481 The lie about myself, Boh and pookie owning some ridiculous amount of SDC was started by BobSurplus after he admitted his pump group owned 60%+ of LXC's coin supply. Instead of facing the facts about his coin ownership in LXC you disregarded it as fact and decided to just regurgitate his shit. Which makes you his bitch. I may not know about tech, but I do know about making money. Seems like it's something you need to work on!! This entire space (cryptocurrency) is based on primitives that underline the technology. You know nothing about crypto and nothing about technology. So why would any investor listen to your loaded advice? Find a new hobby like having your business reported for scamming. I think you'll find a better audience there. They listen because I know how to make friends and network. Unlike yourself who is bagholding shadowcoin and crying just like the xmr holders are about to do. And who the fuck are you to talk about a better audience... You have 200 followers on twitter and are a nobody on this forum. I on the other hand have 1700+ followers, a growing business on the forums and an account that's been around fro a while.. Fuck of troll, go make some more shill twitter account to retweet your shitty tweets. You have 1700 followers? It's easy to buy followers, which I'm sure you've done. I'd expect nothing less from a shill like you. My twitter account is only a few months old, so I could care less that I have 300 followers. Your "business" is based on a scam. You sent people Bitcoin to send back to you. Then claim they are paid customers? You're a joke, your business is a joke and your picks are a joke. The best thing any one can do on this forum is disregard your advice. You brick and mortar business was reported for scamming, now you've moved into scamming people on bitcointalk. LULZ Keep talking trash.. I may have sent you a btc to join as you wanted to and I was gonna let you in for free.. silly me...lmao... thank god your kicked out now. I'll see you when xts is at 25K and remind you of how your still bagholding shadowcoin. I would never join your shit group. I was never in it, so I could never be kicked out. You're a scam artist, lucky for you there's no regulation here outside of intelligence and common sense. Otherwise you would be on a listed just like your brick and mortar business. Yes, I'm holding Shadow because it's a coin with real development behind it, not some shill pump group hyping up non-existent technology. Here is Robert Duskes Jr admitting I was never a paid member and in doing so he admits to the fact that he added names to the list as paid members when in fact they were never paid members. You dipshits are sitting here defining what FUD is - no evidence, hearsay and the kicker is you are using the statements of a REAL LIFE SCAM ARTIST as evidence. What does that make you? Don't blame shift people because you bought into a bullshit pump and dump. First reaction is always to find a scapegoat. Instead why not learn from your mistakes instead of conjuring up lies that originate from a known scammer? Title: Re: Shadow/cash/coin called on trolling Blocknet (it's why) on Oct 21st. 100% Post by: EmilioMann on November 02, 2014, 07:18:04 PM The first html5 wallet was developed by I/O coin.
Shadowcoin stole the idea and launched before the beta version developed by IOC devs like the final version and saying that was developed by sdc devs. This beta version is just makeup. Only the graphical interface is html5 Read more here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=695855.msg9149339#msg9149339 http://i1357.photobucket.com/albums/q744/EmilioMann/cardboard-testarossa_zps0132341a.jpg (http://s1357.photobucket.com/user/EmilioMann/media/cardboard-testarossa_zps0132341a.jpg.html) The first mobile wallet Staking was developed by Librexcoin. Librexcoin mobile wallet has scanner for QR code, this is a true mobile wallet. LXC mobile wallet takes about 15 minutes for full blockchain sync, insane fast. Shadowgo released their app 3 days later, and SDC wallet takes about 3 days to sync, and the wallet does not have scan for QR code, how can someone use a fucking mobile wallet that has no Scan Qr code, and even worse SDC wallet takes 3 days to blockchain synchronize. (SDC Mobile wallets and also SDC Html5 wallet are 100% vapor-ware) User trying to use shadowgo https://i.imgur.com/Jw2rcCR.gif 50% of this coin are in the hands of only two pump&dumpers: Pookielax31 = Mr. Boh (twitter) coolstoryteller = Trolls Royce They use bots in bittrex to manipulate prices of shadowcash and also to destroy new coins that will be competitors. https://i.imgur.com/RoOYiFv.png Title: Re: Shadow/cash/coin called on trolling Blocknet (it's why) on Oct 21st. 100% Post by: SebSebastian on November 02, 2014, 07:21:48 PM 50% of this coin are in the hands of only two pump&dumpers: Pookielax31 = Mr. Boh (twitter) coolstoryteller = Trolls Royce You stated that trollsroyce has over 1m coins. Please don't change the subject or post any more silly pictures, I'd like to know if you have any evidence to back up that claim. Title: Re: Shadow/cash/coin called on trolling Blocknet (it's why) on Oct 21st. 100% Post by: Coolstoryteller on November 02, 2014, 07:28:32 PM 50% of this coin are in the hands of only two pump&dumpers: Pookielax31 = Mr. Boh (twitter) coolstoryteller = Trolls Royce You stated that trollsroyce has over 1m coins. Please don't change the subject or post any more silly pictures, I'd like to know if you have any evidence to back up that claim. He has no evidence because the claim is false.. based on a lie made by a known scam artist Robert Duskes Jr. http://www.ripoffreport.com/r/robert-duskes-scamstopperscom/1324-lexington-avenue-286-new-york-10128/robert-duskes-scamstopperscom-robert-bradley-bob-duskes-robert-bradley-duskes-used-to-646481 A few months ago Boh exposed a conversation between himself and Bobsurplus where Bob admitted that alone he controlled 20% of the LXC coin supply and combined with his team the controlled around 60%+ of the total coin supply. I re-posted the conversation and Bob made up a lie to that boh, pookie and myself owned 60% of the SDC supply to divert attention away from the truth. A lie that dipshits like tranglee and emilioman are still repeating to this day. Lulz EmilioMann and Tranglee are incapable of debating the subject with reason and logic. They will keep posting the same FUD over and over again no matter what evidence is brought before them. Emilionman still doesn't understand what a programing language is and as a result continues to make the statement that Shadow's wallet isn't HTML. No point in arguing with him. Title: Re: Shadow/cash/coin called on trolling Blocknet (it's why) on Oct 21st. 100% Post by: EmilioMann on November 02, 2014, 07:34:30 PM The first mobile wallet Staking was developed by Librexcoin. Librexcoin mobile wallet has scanner for QR code, this is a true mobile wallet. LXC mobile wallet takes about 15 minutes for full blockchain sync, insane fast.
Shadowgo released their app 3 days later, and SDC wallet takes about 3 days to sync, and the wallet does not have scan for QR code, how can someone use a fucking mobile wallet that has no Scan Qr code, and even worse SDC wallet takes 3 days to blockchain synchronize. (SDC Mobile wallets and also SDC Html5 wallet are 100% vapor-ware) User trying to use shadowgo https://i.imgur.com/Jw2rcCR.gif Title: Re: Shadow/cash/coin called on trolling Blocknet (it's why) on Oct 21st. 100% Post by: Coolstoryteller on November 02, 2014, 07:40:59 PM The conversation between Boh and Bobsmearplus
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BvpvY3vIQAAVszw.png https://twitter.com/CryptoBoh/status/502836784704012289 As a result of this coming out Bob started a bullshit lie that pookie, boh and I own over 50-60% of the SDC coin supply. The original post was on the LXC thread deleted by LXC dev. You can see it here though apparently someone kept a copy. The response to my post is where the claim started. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=818939.msg9185920#msg9185920 Title: Re: Shadow/cash/coin called on trolling Blocknet (it's why) on Oct 21st. 100% Post by: EmilioMann on November 02, 2014, 07:43:22 PM bla bla bla shit blablabla shit A few months ago Boh exposed a conversation between himself and Bobsurplus where Bob admitted that alone he controlled 20% of the LXC coin supply and combined with his team the controlled around 60%+ of the total coin supply. blablabla shit blabla Who need more evidence that Mr. Boh aka Pookielax31 and coolstoryteller aka TrollsRoyce are or were part of Bobsurplus group? How he had this conversation with him? Does anyone think that Bob would talk about this to someone outside of your group? LOL http://i60.tinypic.com/bhbwvs.jpg Title: Re: Shadow/cash/coin called on trolling Blocknet (it's why) on Oct 21st. 100% Post by: ProfX on November 02, 2014, 07:46:46 PM OP is not lying and SDC has huge scumbags that will do anything to better their investment
https://i.imgur.com/EEc9xf2.png Based on their history of attacking coins, you can pretty much say undoubtedly that the top SDC holders just scammed hundreds of thousands out of XC's cap. INVESTORS STAY FAR AWAY. YOU ARE ASKING FOR TROUBLE INVESTING IN SDC. Title: Re: Shadow/cash/coin called on trolling Blocknet (it's why) on Oct 21st. 100% Post by: Coolstoryteller on November 02, 2014, 07:48:06 PM bla bla bla shit blablabla shit A few months ago Boh exposed a conversation between himself and Bobsurplus where Bob admitted that alone he controlled 20% of the LXC coin supply and combined with his team the controlled around 60%+ of the total coin supply. blablabla shit blabla Who need more evidence that Mr. Boh aka Pookielax31 and coolstoryteller aka TrollsRoyce are or were part of Bobsurplus group? How he had this conversation with him? Does anyone think that Bob would talk about this to someone outside of your group? LOL You just continue to disregard evidence as "bla bla shit blabla" Below here is your pimp Bobsurplus admitting that I was never a paid member in his group. While I exposed him in the Monero thread for being the shitstain scam artist he is. http://www.ripoffreport.com/r/robert-duskes-scamstopperscom/1324-lexington-avenue-286-new-york-10128/robert-duskes-scamstopperscom-robert-bradley-bob-duskes-robert-bradley-duskes-used-to-646481 I may not know about tech, but I do know about making money. Seems like it's something you need to work on!! This entire space (cryptocurrency) is based on primitives that underline the technology. You know nothing about crypto and nothing about technology. So why would any investor listen to your loaded advice? Find a new hobby like having your business reported for scamming. I think you'll find a better audience there. They listen because I know how to make friends and network. Unlike yourself who is bagholding shadowcoin and crying just like the xmr holders are about to do. And who the fuck are you to talk about a better audience... You have 200 followers on twitter and are a nobody on this forum. I on the other hand have 1700+ followers, a growing business on the forums and an account that's been around fro a while.. Fuck of troll, go make some more shill twitter account to retweet your shitty tweets. You have 1700 followers? It's easy to buy followers, which I'm sure you've done. I'd expect nothing less from a shill like you. My twitter account is only a few months old, so I could care less that I have 300 followers. Your "business" is based on a scam. You sent people Bitcoin to send back to you. Then claim they are paid customers? You're a joke, your business is a joke and your picks are a joke. The best thing any one can do on this forum is disregard your advice. You brick and mortar business was reported for scamming, now you've moved into scamming people on bitcointalk. LULZ Keep talking trash.. I may have sent you a btc to join as you wanted to and I was gonna let you in for free.. silly me...lmao... thank god your kicked out now. I'll see you when xts is at 25K and remind you of how your still bagholding shadowcoin. I would never join your shit group. I was never in it, so I could never be kicked out. You're a scam artist, lucky for you there's no regulation here outside of intelligence and common sense. Otherwise you would be on a listed just like your brick and mortar business. Yes, I'm holding Shadow because it's a coin with real development behind it, not some shill pump group hyping up non-existent technology. I've debunked all your claims of FUD against XST, SDC coin ownership and Bob's pumpgroup. You keep disregarding the truth so one would have to assume that you are apart of Bob's group. Title: Re: Shadow/cash/coin called on trolling Blocknet (it's why) on Oct 21st. 100% Post by: LongAndShort on November 02, 2014, 07:51:04 PM bla bla bla shit blablabla shit A few months ago Boh exposed a conversation between himself and Bobsurplus where Bob admitted that alone he controlled 20% of the LXC coin supply and combined with his team the controlled around 60%+ of the total coin supply. blablabla shit blabla Who need more evidence that Mr. Boh aka Pookielax31 and coolstoryteller aka TrollsRoyce are or were part of Bobsurplus group? How he had this conversation with him? Does anyone think that Bob would talk about this to someone outside of your group? LOL ~snip yet another emilio spam The part your thick skull fails to comprehend is that they are not in control of a premine or a ICO or a ITO So once again you're just dribbling bable like always hoping by doing it repetitively it will somehow become important and relevant! I don't care what you have to say emilio you are a nutcase and no one takes you seriously at all i just love pointing out that you are the crypto fool! And even as that you seem to amaze me and fail at most of the time! Title: Re: Shadow/cash/coin called on trolling Blocknet (it's why) on Oct 21st. 100% Post by: Coolstoryteller on November 02, 2014, 07:53:52 PM A few months ago Boh exposed a conversation between himself and Bobsurplus where Bob admitted that alone he controlled 20% of the LXC coin supply and combined with his team the controlled around 60%+ of the total coin supply. Who need more evidence that Mr. Boh aka Pookielax31 and coolstoryteller aka TrollsRoyce are or were part of Bobsurplus group? How he had this conversation with him? Does anyone think that Bob would talk about this to someone outside of your group? LOL ~snip yet another emilio spam The part your thick skull fails to comprehend is that they are not in control of a premine or a ICO or a ITO So once again you're just dribbling bable like always hoping by doing it repetitively it will somehow become important and relevant! I don't care what you have to say emilio you are a nutcase and no one takes you seriously at all i just love pointing out that you are the crypto fool! And even that you seem to amaze me and fail at most of the time! The best thing anyone can do is put him on ignore. I for one am tired of the spamming and false allegations. He is just a mouth piece for Bob's pump group just like tranglee and these other clowns. No matter how much evidence you bring to the table to counter their lies they keep spewing the same crap. There is really no point. Title: Re: Shadow/cash/coin called on trolling Blocknet (it's why) on Oct 21st. 100% Post by: EmilioMann on November 02, 2014, 07:54:10 PM blablabla shit blabla Below here is your pimp Bobsurplus admitting that I was never a paid member in his group. While I exposed him in the Monero thread for being the shitstain scam artist he is. blablabla shit blabla Obviously that you as a paid member may require for anonymity. And nothing better than the fake fights between you guys to manipulate the market http://i60.tinypic.com/bhbwvs.jpg Title: Re: Shadow/cash/coin called on trolling Blocknet (it's why) on Oct 21st. 100% Post by: Coolstoryteller on November 02, 2014, 07:58:21 PM Below here is your pimp Bobsurplus admitting that I was never a paid member in his group. While I exposed him in the Monero thread for being the shitstain scam artist he is. Obviously that you as a paid member may require for anonymity. And nothing better than the fake fights between you guys to manipulate the market Again no evidence.. You are the definition of FUD. Welcome you're the first person I've ignored on Bitcointalk. EmilioMann Trust: 0: -0 / +0(0) Unignore Title: Re: Shadow/cash/coin called on trolling Blocknet (it's why) on Oct 21st. 100% Post by: EmilioMann on November 02, 2014, 08:18:15 PM Below here is your pimp Bobsurplus admitting that I was never a paid member in his group. While I exposed him in the Monero thread for being the shitstain scam artist he is. Obviously that you as a paid member may require for anonymity. And nothing better than the fake fights between you guys to manipulate the market Again no evidence.. You are the definition of FUD. Welcome you're the first person I've ignored on Bitcointalk. EmilioMann Trust: 0: -0 / +0(0) Unignore no evidence? LOL we just not saving private chats for future use against people who once thought that we was "a friend". This is the more sordid thing than someone who was born a man can do. Could only come from shadowcoin "community" Title: Re: Shadow/cash/coin called on trolling Blocknet (it's why) on Oct 21st. 100% Post by: SebSebastian on November 02, 2014, 08:25:34 PM Below here is your pimp Bobsurplus admitting that I was never a paid member in his group. While I exposed him in the Monero thread for being the shitstain scam artist he is. Obviously that you as a paid member may require for anonymity. And nothing better than the fake fights between you guys to manipulate the market Again no evidence.. You are the definition of FUD. Welcome you're the first person I've ignored on Bitcointalk. EmilioMann Trust: 0: -0 / +0(0) Unignore no evidence? LOL we just not saving private chats for future use against people who once thought that we was "a friend". This is the more sordid thing than someone who was born a man can do. Could only come from shadowcoin "community" More fud and still no evidence. You idiots are the best advertisement for Shadow there is. :D Title: Re: Shadow/cash/coin called on trolling Blocknet (it's why) on Oct 21st. 100% Post by: LongAndShort on November 02, 2014, 08:27:10 PM Below here is your pimp Bobsurplus admitting that I was never a paid member in his group. While I exposed him in the Monero thread for being the shitstain scam artist he is. Obviously that you as a paid member may require for anonymity. And nothing better than the fake fights between you guys to manipulate the market Again no evidence.. You are the definition of FUD. Welcome you're the first person I've ignored on Bitcointalk. EmilioMann Trust: 0: -0 / +0(0) Unignore no evidence? LOL we just not saving private chats for future use against people who once thought that we was "a friend". This is the more sordid thing than someone who was born a man can do. Could only come from shadowcoin "community" Buzz off emilio, adults are here trying to have a stupid conversation! Title: Re: Shadow/cash/coin called on trolling Blocknet (it's why) on Oct 21st. 100% Post by: PoopieLaxitive31 on November 02, 2014, 10:52:09 PM Buzz off emilio, adults are here trying to have a stupid conversation! [/quote] Yeah Shadowscam guys what to talk about the achievements. Like the html5 wallet that worked so hard on. http://i1357.photobucket.com/albums/q744/EmilioMann/cardboard-testarossa_zps0132341a.jpg Title: Re: Shadow/cash/coin called on trolling Blocknet (it's why) on Oct 21st. 100% Post by: SebSebastian on November 02, 2014, 10:56:49 PM Like I said before 'PoopieLaxitive', you can't fud away real development.
Title: Re: Shadow/cash/coin called on trolling Blocknet (it's why) on Oct 21st. 100% Post by: PoopieLaxitive31 on November 02, 2014, 11:18:38 PM That wallet shot exemplifies SDC's approach to things. Take others hard work and use it for their own personal gain. I'm sure they paid the royalties to those anime artists and companies. Fud/take/destroy/and troll your way to the top somehow. Did you guys get written permission for the poke'mon images you lifted too in the ad that shows one puking out SDC logos and shitting stars? Typical.
Title: Re: Shadow/cash/coin called on trolling Blocknet (it's why) on Oct 21st. 100% Post by: ProfX on November 02, 2014, 11:27:26 PM https://i.imgur.com/EEc9xf2.png
Based on SDC's history of attacking coins, you can pretty much say undoubtedly that the top SDC holders just scammed hundreds of thousands out of XC's cap. INVESTORS STAY FAR AWAY. YOU ARE ASKING FOR TROUBLE INVESTING IN SDC. Title: Re: Shadow/cash/coin called on trolling Blocknet (it's why) on Oct 21st. 100% Post by: SebSebastian on November 02, 2014, 11:28:29 PM Like I said before 'PoopieLaxitive', you can't fud away real development. Title: Re: Shadow/cash/coin called on trolling Blocknet (it's why) on Oct 21st. 100% Post by: illodin on November 02, 2014, 11:34:49 PM Stop spamming and quoting your own posts ffs.
Title: Re: Shadow/cash/coin called on trolling Blocknet (it's why) on Oct 21st. 100% Post by: crazytrain on November 02, 2014, 11:39:52 PM Soepkip " SDC Community manager " is a serious crook, he ruined blackcoin ... Be wary of this worm .... Now he is working with the Shadowcoin Mafia.
INTERVIEW WITH SOEPKIP, CLICK TO WATCH : : https://i.imgur.com/nBjZ4qs.png (http://interview-with-soepkip.blogspot.com) The first html5 wallet was developed by I/O coin. Shadowcoin stole the idea and launched before the beta version developed by IOC devs like the final version and saying that was developed by sdc devs. This beta version is just makeup. Only the graphical interface is html5 Read more here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=695855.msg9149339#msg9149339 http://i1357.photobucket.com/albums/q744/EmilioMann/cardboard-testarossa_zps0132341a.jpg (http://s1357.photobucket.com/user/EmilioMann/media/cardboard-testarossa_zps0132341a.jpg.html) The first mobile wallet Staking was developed by Librexcoin. Librexcoin mobile wallet has scanner for QR code, this is a true mobile wallet. LXC mobile wallet takes about 15 minutes for full blockchain sync, insane fast. Shadowgo released their app 3 days later, and SDC wallet takes about 3 days to sync, and the wallet does not have scan for QR code, how can someone use a fucking mobile wallet that has no Scan Qr code, and even worse SDC wallet takes 3 days to blockchain synchronize. (SDC Mobile wallets and also SDC Html5 wallet are 100% vapor-ware) User trying to use shadowgo https://i.imgur.com/Jw2rcCR.gif https://i.imgur.com/iAOHWu7.png SHADOWCOIN /SHADOWCASH ARE SCAMMERS AND BANDITS . DO NOT BE FOOLED ! Shadowgang are bandits of the worst kind, the only thing that they do is to search trouble with all competing currencies ... beware ! The Shadowcoin dev (rynomster) is the head of the mafia, he uses bots to manipulate the price of other coins. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=818939.0 https://i.imgur.com/RoOYiFv.png SHADOWCOIN TEAM https://i.imgur.com/2jZNnFH.png 50% of this coin are in the hands of only two pump&dumpers: Pookielax31 = Mr. Boh (twitter) coolstoryteller = Trolls Royce They use bots to manipulate prices of shadowcash and also to destroy new coins that will be competitors. Title: Re: Shadow/cash/coin called on trolling Blocknet (it's why) on Oct 21st. 100% Post by: SebSebastian on November 02, 2014, 11:40:43 PM https://i.imgur.com/ovemJA3.png (http://shadow.cash) Shadow is a STATE OF THE ART, Proof of Stake crypto currency, utilizing cutting edge technology, such as instant p2p encrypted messaging (ShadowChat), and anonymous dual-key stealth addresses (ShadowSend). Initial distribution was done using Proof of Work and Proof of Stake.
https://i.imgur.com/2MjYbeN.png (https://www.facebook.com/shadowcrypto) https://i.imgur.com/CTxTcZP.png (https://twitter.com/sdcoin) https://i.imgur.com/UfoIMgS.png (https://www.reddit.com/r/ShadowCash) https://i.imgur.com/8iCJ7dA.png (http://im.qq.com/) Launch Date: https://i.imgur.com/pqIAJrJ.png https://i.imgur.com/1Kdwkxd.png http://shadow.cash/downloads/Shadow_roadmap.png https://i.imgur.com/xQaKD1K.png http://shadow.cash/downloads/linux_download.png (http://www.shadow.cash/downloads/shadow_1.2.0.1_linux64_static.zip) https://i.imgur.com/375i9mE.png (http://www.shadow.cash/downloads/shadow_1.2.0.1_win32.zip)https://i.imgur.com/JrquPAD.png (http://www.shadow.cash/downloads/shadow_1.2.0.1_macosx.dmg)https://i.imgur.com/lIrzqVC.png (https://github.com/SDCDev/shadowcoin)https://i.imgur.com/dnbq8HX.png (https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=co.shadowcoin.shadowgo)https://i.imgur.com/qqmZOUq.png (http://shadowcoin.co/downloads/shadowgo-ios.zip) https://i.imgur.com/VPXmHuu.png https://i.imgur.com/v9yJGHE.png http://explorer.shadowcoin.co/ (http://explorer.shadowcoin.co/) http://sdc.blockexplorer.cc/ (http://sdc.blockexplorer.cc/) Rich list (http://sdc.blockexplorer.cc/richlist/) https://i.imgur.com/Sje98tF.png https://i.imgur.com/OciTGVZ.png (https://bittrex.com/Market/Index?MarketName=BTC-SDC) http://c-cex.com/i/l.png (https://c-cex.com/?p=sdc-btc) https://i.imgur.com/MeY9sYh.png (https://www.swisscex.com/market/SDC_BTC) https://coin-swap.net/assets/img/cs-logo1.png (https://coin-swap.net/market/SDC/BTC) https://www.lazycoins.com/img/lazylogo-217.png (https://lazycoins.com/trade#sdc-btc) https://www.poloniex.com/images/theme_dark/poloniex.png (https://poloniex.com/exchange/btc_sdc) https://i.imgur.com/Z2VYitd.png (https://www.cryptsy.com/markets/view/306) Vote for Shadow on BTER (https://bter.com/voting#SDC) Vote for Shadow on BTC38 (http://www.btc38.com/trade/vote_for_trade_en.html) https://i.imgur.com/KoXBMWT.png ShadowChat Private Messaging: Instant p2p Encrypted Messaging (http://www.shadow.cash/downloads/shadowcoin-p2p-em.pdf) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ra9E7Il6hps https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w-B1HuxNvFg Cryptonator (https://www.cryptonator.com/rates/SDC-BTC) Coinmarketcap (http://coinmarketcap.com/#id-shadowcoin) Cryptotrader Bittrex Charts (https://cryptrader.com/charts/bittrex/sdc/btc) https://i.imgur.com/mD2J4oQ.png http://shadowhangout.com/category/20/tutorials ShadowGo iOS Installation (http://shadowhangout.com/topic/86/ios-shadowgo-installation-tutorial) Shadow Wiki (http://shadowcoin.info/) Title: Re: Shadow/cash/coin called on trolling Blocknet (it's why) on Oct 21st. 100% Post by: illodin on November 02, 2014, 11:51:31 PM Stop spamming and quoting your own posts ffs. That's what about 95% of these threads are. If they're going to keep fudding I'll keep using their own tactics against them. If you want people to wanna puke every time they see anything SDC related then you're succeeding. Title: Re: Shadow/cash/coin called on trolling Blocknet (it's why) on Oct 21st. 100% Post by: SebSebastian on November 02, 2014, 11:53:54 PM Stop spamming and quoting your own posts ffs. That's what about 95% of these threads are. If they're going to keep fudding I'll keep using their own tactics against them. If you want people to wanna puke every time they see anything SDC related then you're succeeding. Don't see you complaining when the fudsters do it though. Fucking hypocrite. Title: Re: Shadow/cash/coin called on trolling Blocknet (it's why) on Oct 21st. 100% Post by: EmilioMann on November 03, 2014, 01:24:27 AM Title: Re: Shadow/cash/coin called on trolling Blocknet (it's why) on Oct 21st. 100% Post by: PoopieLaxitive31 on November 03, 2014, 01:30:18 AM That piece of shit pookie being outed. LOL No they NEVER conspire to troll other coins or projects. They are always the victim. Fucktards! Title: Re: Shadow/cash/coin called on trolling Blocknet (it's why) on Oct 21st. 100% Post by: Edward Snowden on November 03, 2014, 02:33:01 PM I'm living up to my name today. Note the date in the log. It's way before they trolled it.
What is sad is that the ShadowCoin guys troll the very thing they almost became. XC. I'll leak these logs as its a good read and has tons of details that only SDC dev Ryno would know. It's what started Boh and TrollsRoyce and others plan to stop blocknet and XC. That didn't want to see their SDC merged. I have much respect for SDC dev Ryno now though. He is open minded. He didn't do the fud it was these Bagholding whales on the SDC coin. Quote [10/9/2014 12:04:05 PM] *** ATCSECURE added . *** [10/9/2014 12:04:10 PM] *** ATCSECURE added Arlyn Culwick *** [10/9/2014 12:04:24 PM] .: Hey [10/9/2014 12:04:33 PM] ATCSECURE: hey [10/9/2014 12:04:34 PM] ATCSECURE: okay [10/9/2014 12:04:38 PM] ATCSECURE: I sent the request [10/9/2014 12:04:43 PM] ATCSECURE: to add him [10/9/2014 12:04:46 PM] .: Great, he should be here any second [10/9/2014 12:05:22 PM] *** ATCSECURE added Rynomster *** [10/9/2014 12:05:31 PM] Rynomster: hey [10/9/2014 12:05:36 PM] ATCSECURE: Hi ryno [10/9/2014 12:05:50 PM] ATCSECURE: I'm Dan, lead XC dev/architect, pleasure to meet you [10/9/2014 12:05:55 PM] Rynomster: hows it going? [10/9/2014 12:06:07 PM] ATCSECURE: not too bad, wish it was friday :) [10/9/2014 12:06:13 PM] Rynomster: Im Ryno, lead Shadow Dev/architech :D hehe [10/9/2014 12:06:20 PM] Rynomster: lol friday is the same as every other day ;) [10/9/2014 12:06:24 PM] Rynomster: only sundays are cool [10/9/2014 12:06:44 PM] ATCSECURE: yes sundays are special... its the only day my family see's me [10/9/2014 12:06:52 PM] Rynomster: woa O_O [10/9/2014 12:07:07 PM] ATCSECURE: nice [10/9/2014 12:07:27 PM] ATCSECURE: let me share my background a little bit [10/9/2014 12:07:44 PM] Rynomster: kk [10/9/2014 12:08:03 PM] ATCSECURE: I"m an infrastructure developer, started back in the 80's outside of XC most of my work is mesh networking/development for IP over RF [10/9/2014 12:08:22 PM] ATCSECURE: part of that went into XC for its mixer technology [10/9/2014 12:08:40 PM] ATCSECURE: I'm a full systems guy, the whole 9, linux through security and windows (ug) [10/9/2014 12:09:18 PM] ATCSECURE: anyways my goal with XC is to bring it main stream with privacy as key driver across all "mini-apps" [10/9/2014 12:09:28 PM] Rynomster: hehe nice :) sounds awesome :D [10/9/2014 12:09:32 PM] Rynomster: mini-apps? [10/9/2014 12:09:39 PM] ATCSECURE: yeah like EM, xc has xchat [10/9/2014 12:09:44 PM] ATCSECURE: which works more like skype than EM [10/9/2014 12:09:48 PM] ATCSECURE: but very similiar in some ways [10/9/2014 12:09:56 PM] ATCSECURE: another app, not releasted yet is a trading tool [10/9/2014 12:10:07 PM] ATCSECURE: plus we are looking at voip and video [maybe] [10/9/2014 12:10:41 PM] Rynomster: ah cool, very similar to us :) We also want to add an appstore and allow people to publish apps for shadow.. also mini apps :) hence why we went the html5 route [10/9/2014 12:11:01 PM] ATCSECURE: yes, I've been working on a node.js wallet for that, to allow dev's to create plugins/modules [10/9/2014 12:11:10 PM] Rynomster: ugh lol [10/9/2014 12:11:16 PM] Rynomster: Rynomster doesnt like node [10/9/2014 12:11:20 PM] Rynomster: just putting it out there :) [10/9/2014 12:11:22 PM] ATCSECURE: :) [10/9/2014 12:11:26 PM] ATCSECURE: well html5 is better [10/9/2014 12:11:50 PM] ATCSECURE: and the node.js project has stalled anyways [10/9/2014 12:11:59 PM] ATCSECURE: as work effort vs results wasn't there [10/9/2014 12:12:12 PM] Rynomster: we're using qtwebkit, its very cool, and we've written a Objective C bridge for iOS and a Qt -> Java -> javascript bridge for Android [10/9/2014 12:12:40 PM] Rynomster: and a lite wallet, but havent gotten around to finishing our new apps [10/9/2014 12:12:45 PM] Rynomster: new mobile apps [10/9/2014 12:13:00 PM] .: What are the benefits of a lite wallet again? [10/9/2014 12:13:26 PM] ATCSECURE: does your lite wallet use bloom filters or just download the last block? [10/9/2014 12:13:32 PM] Rynomster: SPV, you dont need the whole chain :) it uses bloom filters [10/9/2014 12:13:43 PM] ATCSECURE: yeah we use bloom in XC"s android app too [10/9/2014 12:14:22 PM] Rynomster: so you guys dont really want XC to be used for darkweb? [10/9/2014 12:14:33 PM] ATCSECURE: well the issue with darkweb [10/9/2014 12:14:44 PM] ATCSECURE: is that XC wants to engage legit business's for P2P services [10/9/2014 12:14:48 PM] ATCSECURE: to help monetize nodes [10/9/2014 12:15:02 PM] ATCSECURE: plus with point of sales/atm's [10/9/2014 12:15:18 PM] ATCSECURE: XC is already supported on several atm's as well [10/9/2014 12:15:59 PM] Rynomster: I started off as a techy, then became a system administrator, then moved to developer, then system architect for a financial informations system company.. we mainly did insurance, lending, pension and unit trust systems where I worked... I was the system architect for the core SOA system in our R&D division [10/9/2014 12:17:26 PM] .: One thing I want to discuss is how an XC / SDC merger would be beneficial? Would both projects have good synergy? [10/9/2014 12:17:38 PM] .: Would SDC tech compliment XC tech? [10/9/2014 12:17:42 PM] ATCSECURE: it sounds like it would [10/9/2014 12:18:07 PM] .: Dan, can you lay out a bit of the direction XC is headed? [10/9/2014 12:18:16 PM] .: The tech XC currently has [10/9/2014 12:18:20 PM] .: And then we will do the same for SDC [10/9/2014 12:18:43 PM] ATCSECURE: currently XC has its decentralised mixer, which really is ad-hoc mesh network, it combines "masternodes" and users in a single tx [10/9/2014 12:18:56 PM] ATCSECURE: so in someways its based off coinjoin - from a Transaction standpoint [10/9/2014 12:19:10 PM] ATCSECURE: but not the connectivity as generally 3+ masternodes join up and multiple users in a single tx [10/9/2014 12:19:15 PM] ATCSECURE: then we have XCHAT [10/9/2014 12:19:31 PM] ATCSECURE: which is similiar to sdc em but more interactive like skype w/ group chat function [10/9/2014 12:19:59 PM] ATCSECURE: and a staking mobile wallet using bloom [10/9/2014 12:20:11 PM] Rynomster: we've played around with group chat before, its actually rather simple :) [10/9/2014 12:20:15 PM] .: Will the staking mobile wallet support private transactions? [10/9/2014 12:20:18 PM] ATCSECURE: yes [10/9/2014 12:20:21 PM] ATCSECURE: and xchat [10/9/2014 12:20:29 PM] Rynomster: does the mobile wallet exist? [10/9/2014 12:20:33 PM] ATCSECURE: yes [10/9/2014 12:20:48 PM] Rynomster: staking lite wallet on the android play store? :D [10/9/2014 12:20:55 PM] ATCSECURE: not on play storeyet [10/9/2014 12:21:00 PM] ATCSECURE: as working on the UI [10/9/2014 12:21:10 PM] ATCSECURE: want it to be seamless [10/9/2014 12:21:15 PM] Rynomster: ah.. how did you guys get it to stake? [10/9/2014 12:21:29 PM] Rynomster: we use the full nodes to build a "stake" pack [10/9/2014 12:21:45 PM] Rynomster: so they give all the information for thin nodes to be able to stake [10/9/2014 12:23:03 PM] ATCSECURE: yeah the staking one we are testing has the chain, its not a thin wallet [10/9/2014 12:23:03 PM] Rynomster: We have a lite wallet that stakes, android, ios wallets, EM, stealth addresses, and are nearing our zero knowledge implementation. [10/9/2014 12:23:31 PM] ATCSECURE: yes ZK is an exciting solution [10/9/2014 12:24:28 PM] Rynomster: the only problem with zk is it won't allow us to have prunable outputs, and the amount of outputs will constantly grow... we really want a prunable blockchain, so we came up with a new concept which we're calling block trees... we wont have it in our initial implementation though [10/9/2014 12:24:58 PM] Rynomster: but it is really exciting stuff [10/9/2014 12:25:01 PM] .: block trees is directly related to your method for instant transactions, isn't it ryno? [10/9/2014 12:25:07 PM] Rynomster: yea [10/9/2014 12:25:30 PM] Rynomster: we're really enjoying the whole crypto scene :D we can't get enough of cryptography... if this world wasnt so fast and competetive, we'd be having so much fun :D [10/9/2014 12:25:40 PM] ATCSECURE: so true [10/9/2014 12:25:50 PM] Rynomster: not that we aren't, but I mean we could get lost in code for daaaayys just enjoying it :) [10/9/2014 12:26:00 PM] ATCSECURE: instant tx's play directly into the Point of sales capabilities as well [10/9/2014 12:26:18 PM] ATCSECURE: and thats a key vision of the business/strategy as well [10/9/2014 12:26:29 PM] .: Speaking of vision of the business. Can you talk about web 3.0 a little bit and where it is at now and what you hope it will become? Can you share with us any information on XC Inc? [10/9/2014 12:26:38 PM] ATCSECURE: sure [10/9/2014 12:26:50 PM] ATCSECURE: one of the projects is a decentralised file storage system [10/9/2014 12:27:01 PM] ATCSECURE: for ad's, and other content [10/9/2014 12:27:20 PM] ATCSECURE: XC Inc would be a 3rd party legit business/oracle/gatekeeper for that [10/9/2014 12:27:34 PM] ATCSECURE: through the use of API's built in the wallets to pull from the filesystem [10/9/2014 12:28:22 PM] ATCSECURE: XC Inc is looking to raise funding via ITO and register as a c-corp (if in the us) and international corporate status as well [10/9/2014 12:28:31 PM] ATCSECURE: although the legal framework around that is still being reviewed [10/9/2014 12:28:45 PM] Rynomster: is it going to be similar to Tahoe-LAFS? [10/9/2014 12:28:54 PM] .: Do you have a guesstimate on when the ITO will be held? [10/9/2014 12:29:27 PM] ATCSECURE: yes very similiar to Tahoe-LAFS... as for the timing/date, not sure yet, it could be 4 weeks or maybe AFTER the holidays [10/9/2014 12:29:39 PM] ATCSECURE: gem's ICO is nov 1st I think [10/9/2014 12:29:58 PM] ATCSECURE: and then holidays so the timing is critical to maximise success [10/9/2014 12:30:09 PM] Rynomster: what's gem? :) [10/9/2014 12:30:23 PM] ATCSECURE: another coin [10/9/2014 12:30:27 PM] Rynomster: what does ITO stand for? Initial <> offering? [10/9/2014 12:30:27 PM] ATCSECURE: trying to do a twitter system [10/9/2014 12:30:33 PM] ATCSECURE: token [10/9/2014 12:30:36 PM] Rynomster: oh nice :D [10/9/2014 12:30:40 PM] ATCSECURE: to keep the SEC from putting me in jail [10/9/2014 12:30:47 PM] Rynomster: lol [10/9/2014 12:31:01 PM] ATCSECURE: also as part of our web3.0,we have a decentralised twitter solution as well [10/9/2014 12:31:22 PM] ATCSECURE: another part of what I'm doing is market analysis on which "dev buckets" make sense [10/9/2014 12:31:26 PM] ATCSECURE: and solve problmes [10/9/2014 12:31:54 PM] ATCSECURE: no point in making a solution nobody will use [10/9/2014 12:32:07 PM] Rynomster: yea I agree... it needs to be used, and needs to be user friendly [10/9/2014 12:32:24 PM] ATCSECURE: also XC has a solid team for its PR side [10/9/2014 12:32:39 PM] .: Dan, how much of what you have shared is idea/goal vs currently in development? If you don't mind sharing [10/9/2014 12:33:21 PM] ATCSECURE: the web3.0 stuff is not in development yet [10/9/2014 12:33:28 PM] ATCSECURE: the file system is in the design phase [10/9/2014 12:33:31 PM] ATCSECURE: everything else is done [10/9/2014 12:33:39 PM] .: I see, thanks. [10/9/2014 12:33:48 PM] .: How large is XC's team? Core developers? [10/9/2014 12:34:21 PM] ATCSECURE: 2 core dev's, with another 5 resources [10/9/2014 12:34:28 PM] ATCSECURE: across different skillsets [10/9/2014 12:34:30 PM] ATCSECURE: for coding [10/9/2014 12:34:31 PM] .: That's basically the same as ours [10/9/2014 12:34:42 PM] .: Isn't it ryno? [10/9/2014 12:34:57 PM] .: who is the 2nd core dev, if you don't mind me asking? [10/9/2014 12:35:18 PM] .: is it Xander ? [10/9/2014 12:35:23 PM] ATCSECURE: nope [10/9/2014 12:35:30 PM] ATCSECURE: Christian Howe [10/9/2014 12:35:46 PM] ATCSECURE: Xander did the webpage at launch and does deb builds but thats about it, no coding [10/9/2014 12:35:55 PM] Rynomster: we have myself, tecnovert as core devs, ludx as a contributor, and ffmad and crz as frontend devs [10/9/2014 12:37:16 PM] Rynomster: there has been quite a bit of community involvement as well... they setup a wiki for us, 2nd block explorer, branding, and hosting nodes, etc [10/9/2014 12:37:18 PM] ATCSECURE: how many nodes does SDC have in its network [10/9/2014 12:37:19 PM] .: If SDC / XC were to merge. Ryno: How do you feel SDC's team could improve upon the XC project? Dan: How do you feel SDC could improve upon the XC project? [10/9/2014 12:37:58 PM] ATCSECURE: well I think that a merger would provide a larger force in the marketplace, bringing the best of both projects [10/9/2014 12:38:19 PM] ATCSECURE: and with XC focusing on a legit strategy as busines to bring this tech mainstream, it provides a path [10/9/2014 12:38:34 PM] ATCSECURE: to really help crypto [10/9/2014 12:39:48 PM] ATCSECURE: also XC has 3 more core team members, not dev's, Nick, ARlyn and Dan, - nick is a key part of business strategy and VC/investment portfolio planning [10/9/2014 12:39:49 PM] Rynomster: Yea I think we could help allot with the workload, and we love working on exciting projects... I'm not sure what we could improve upon, but I'm certain we could help stengthen it [10/9/2014 12:40:18 PM] ATCSECURE: well ryno, what are your goals? [10/9/2014 12:40:20 PM] .: Ryno: I think adding ZK to XC, as well as instant transactions. Plus you and tecnovert wanted to build VOIP / Video [10/9/2014 12:40:27 PM] .: That's a HUGE gain for XC [10/9/2014 12:40:31 PM] ATCSECURE: yes it is [10/9/2014 12:40:40 PM] ATCSECURE: also too, I ran a VoIP company back in 2000/2001 [10/9/2014 12:40:50 PM | Edited 12:40:55 PM] Rynomster: I can't say for certain how many nodes we have on our network to be honest [10/9/2014 12:41:22 PM] ATCSECURE: ok [10/9/2014 12:41:56 PM] Rynomster: ill check if there's logs or something in the dnsseeder [10/9/2014 12:42:14 PM] .: Another question (I am playing moderator): If SDC / XC were to merge, what are some hesitances or concerns that either of you may have? [10/9/2014 12:42:39 PM] .: If any [10/9/2014 12:43:11 PM] ATCSECURE: for me, I think its important to have a similiar vision and set of goals. [10/9/2014 12:43:36 PM] ATCSECURE: and that a simply statement from me - bring crypto and blockchain tech to mainstream usability [10/9/2014 12:44:33 PM] ATCSECURE: and building a business along the way [10/9/2014 12:45:49 PM] Rynomster: yea I think thats important too, we have to have the same visions and goals :) everyone will need to be passionate and excited :D for me its about learning and changing the world :D [10/9/2014 12:46:05 PM] Rynomster: hesitances would be that we'd lose control of our project [10/9/2014 12:46:22 PM] Rynomster: or concerns should I say [10/9/2014 12:46:27 PM] Rynomster: but that's about it [10/9/2014 12:46:27 PM] ATCSECURE: and a very valid concern [10/9/2014 12:47:29 PM] ATCSECURE: I Think though we can work towards a solution that prevents your concerns [10/9/2014 12:48:24 PM] Arlyn Culwick: Hello folks. Sorry for the delayed arrival. [10/9/2014 12:48:32 PM] Rynomster: are you guys going to setup a XC foundation in the future? or will it all be run through XC Inc? [10/9/2014 12:48:41 PM] Arlyn Culwick: Exciting conversation you've been having! [10/9/2014 12:48:43 PM] ATCSECURE: well I think XC needs a foundation [10/9/2014 12:48:53 PM] ATCSECURE: outside of XC Inc to provide that seperation [10/9/2014 12:49:07 PM] ATCSECURE: and we talked about it at launch and have a few members interested in that as well [10/9/2014 12:49:50 PM] ATCSECURE: we could create a charter for the foundation [10/9/2014 12:50:26 PM] .: Hi Arlyn :) [10/9/2014 12:50:48 PM] ATCSECURE: Ryno - meet Arlyn, he is XC's PR mastermind [10/9/2014 12:50:56 PM] ATCSECURE: best in the business :) [10/9/2014 12:50:56 PM] Rynomster: hey Arlyn [10/9/2014 12:51:07 PM] Arlyn Culwick: Hey Ryno, you're from SA? [10/9/2014 12:51:10 PM] Arlyn Culwick: Me too. [10/9/2014 12:51:13 PM] .: But perhaps too smart for his own good [10/9/2014 12:51:18 PM] .: :) [10/9/2014 12:51:19 PM] Arlyn Culwick: - though I'm in Oxford at the moment. [10/9/2014 12:51:36 PM] Rynomster: as for a merge, how would you guys want it to take place? with a hardfork to kill the shadow network and a hardfork for XC to create new coins for shadow holders to convert to? [10/9/2014 12:51:39 PM] Arlyn Culwick: . - yeah yeah ;) [10/9/2014 12:51:53 PM] Rynomster: yea im from South Africa :) [10/9/2014 12:52:05 PM] Rynomster: its hot here lately O_O [10/9/2014 12:52:06 PM] Rynomster: lol [10/9/2014 12:52:19 PM] Arlyn Culwick: Man, I want to get sunburnt. Not enough UV around here. [10/9/2014 12:52:27 PM] ATCSECURE: ryno - I think thats an option [10/9/2014 12:52:34 PM] .: One concern that I have, and I want to state it out front, (this is more on the technical details of a merger, should we decide that both projects are a good fit): We would have to hard fork XC and give XCurrency to current SDC holderS (similar to the DRK proposal). I don't believe any on SDC could form any agreement if SDC were to only be compensated in XC Inc shares [10/9/2014 12:53:55 PM] Arlyn Culwick: Fair enough. If we do that, we'd need to set up the introduction of the merge quite carefully to ensure that it's received positively. [10/9/2014 12:54:05 PM] ATCSECURE: . - yes I agree, I wasn't thinking XC inc shares [10/9/2014 12:54:10 PM] ATCSECURE: it needs to be xcurrency [10/9/2014 12:54:21 PM] Arlyn Culwick: PR-wise this will be a very unexpected thing and so it would need to be handled strategically. [10/9/2014 12:54:25 PM] ATCSECURE: maybe we think about xc inc shares for the sdc team members though [10/9/2014 12:54:35 PM] ATCSECURE: as part of the overall deal [10/9/2014 12:54:41 PM] .: So would this cause inflation of the overall supply? While, the coin supply would go up, ShadowCoins blockchain would be frozen forever and would lose all of it's value. The value of that currency would be transferred over to the Darkcoin chain. So other coins in Darkcoin would not lose value and ShadowCoin users would maintain their value. From an economics perspective, just printing money will divid it’s value. But combining cryptocurrencies (or companies in the existing system) by inflation will maintain value due to the utility and community that is preexisting. [10/9/2014 12:54:44 PM] *** ATCSECURE added nick *** [10/9/2014 12:54:44 PM] .: I found this helpful [10/9/2014 12:54:44 PM] *** ATCSECURE added nick *** [10/9/2014 12:54:52 PM] ATCSECURE: I'm bringing Nick into the discussion [10/9/2014 12:55:06 PM] .: Hi Nick. I'm . [10/9/2014 12:55:15 PM] Rynomster: Hi Nick, I'm Ryno [10/9/2014 12:55:28 PM] .: Arlyn, PR wise this is a great opportunity for XC. We would leak all of DRK's contacts to SDC [10/9/2014 12:55:38 PM] nick: Hey [10/9/2014 12:55:49 PM] nick: Nice to meet you all. [10/9/2014 12:55:50 PM] .: then announce that we feel that XC has better fundamentals and a greater chance to "disrupt" [10/9/2014 12:56:18 PM] Arlyn Culwick: . - yes, that sounds nice :) [10/9/2014 12:56:19 PM | Edited 12:56:26 PM] Arlyn Culwick: The fundamentals of the merge depend on the public being convinced that by combining the two projects, the resulting value is greater than the two on their own. [10/9/2014 12:56:27 PM] ATCSECURE: I think that can be done [10/9/2014 12:56:41 PM] Arlyn Culwick: It needs a narrative, not just a single announcement. [10/9/2014 12:56:51 PM] .: Arlyn, I agree. And I think this can be done. Because SDC adds to XC, stealth addreses, ZK, instant transactions, and VOIP / Video [10/9/2014 12:56:57 PM] .: and HTML5 / lite wallet [10/9/2014 12:57:05 PM] Arlyn Culwick: Yes, the tech value is undoubtable. [10/9/2014 12:57:09 PM] .: People will see the value of that [10/9/2014 12:57:22 PM] nick: Exactly, Arlyn. The press release would have to highlight the benefits of a merger. On that note, I have always believed / and promoted the idealogy that in order for 'crypto [10/9/2014 12:57:38 PM] Arlyn Culwick: I'm going to need to make a case for 1+1 =5, rather than 2, if you know what I mean. ;) [10/9/2014 12:57:42 PM] nick: to break into the mainstream, and have relivence outside of the crypto-community, there needs to partnerships and cooperation. [10/9/2014 12:57:44 PM] .: Repasting for Nick to read: [10/9/14, 10:54:39 AM] .: So would this cause inflation of the overall supply? While, the coin supply would go up, ShadowCoins blockchain would be frozen forever and would lose all of it's value. The value of that currency would be transferred over to the Darkcoin chain. So other coins in Darkcoin would not lose value and ShadowCoin users would maintain their value. From an economics perspective, just printing money will divid it’s value. But combining cryptocurrencies (or companies in the existing system) by inflation will maintain value due to the utility and community that is preexisting. [10/9/14, 10:54:43 AM] .: I found this helpful [10/9/2014 12:57:46 PM] nick: Both in development, and marketing. [10/9/2014 12:58:56 PM] Arlyn Culwick: Has the SDC community been told about this possible merge? [10/9/2014 12:59:05 PM] Arlyn Culwick: - or has it been hinted at? [10/9/2014 12:59:37 PM] Rynomster: no [10/9/2014 12:59:44 PM] Arlyn Culwick: Great. Suits me. [10/9/2014 12:59:46 PM] .: No. Less than a handful of people know about this [10/9/2014 12:59:49 PM] .: including you guys [10/9/2014 1:00:09 PM] Arlyn Culwick: Perfect. Let's keep it that way until we do a co-ordinated announcement. [10/9/2014 1:00:20 PM] .: Well, we have to form an agreement first [10/9/2014 1:00:27 PM] Arlyn Culwick: If this stuff leaks out wrong, it could be very destructive. [10/9/2014 1:00:28 PM] .: :) [10/9/2014 1:00:44 PM] Arlyn Culwick: It'll get twisted all sorts of horrible ways by trolls and paranoid people. [10/9/2014 1:00:46 PM] .: Don't worry. DRK proposed to us about a month ago, and we've been in communications since [10/9/2014 1:00:49 PM] .: it won't get leaked on our end [10/9/2014 1:01:04 PM] Rynomster: lol its kinda strange, because a blockchain is supposed to be decentralized, yet we're going to prove that there are people in control [10/9/2014 1:01:17 PM] Arlyn Culwick: Great. That's good to know. Crypto seems to be a very leaky place :) [10/9/2014 1:01:41 PM] nick: How much of an increase on supply is required? [10/9/2014 1:01:48 PM] ATCSECURE: ryno - ah yes, at some point you need a centralised authority to conduct business [10/9/2014 1:01:49 PM] Rynomster: I guess there will always be a consensus... if enough people decide against it, it wont happen [10/9/2014 1:02:10 PM] .: We would have to work out those details nick. Historically XC has been valued at around 5x higher than SDC, market cap wise, so a rough estimation would be by 20% [10/9/2014 1:02:16 PM] Rynomster: so we need to get both communities to agree I guess [10/9/2014 1:02:18 PM] .: XC supply would increase 20% with a buyout [10/9/2014 1:02:26 PM] .: But it's market cap theoretically should increase by 20% as wlel [10/9/2014 1:02:31 PM] ATCSECURE: about 1million coins or so [10/9/2014 1:02:32 PM] .: So, current XC owners retain their value [10/9/2014 1:02:41 PM] nick: So about 1.1 million coins [10/9/2014 1:02:45 PM] ATCSECURE: :) [10/9/2014 1:02:52 PM] .: But I would predict that XC's market cap would increase by more than 20% [10/9/2014 1:02:54 PM] .: Because this is big news [10/9/2014 1:03:04 PM] .: And the added value of cooperation, communities effectually doubling [10/9/2014 1:03:08 PM] .: is big [10/9/2014 1:03:16 PM] nick: That's not that bad, and the added tech / team developers / and user base from shadow would probably increase the value, yes. [10/9/2014 1:03:17 PM] Arlyn Culwick: Yes, let's make sure that the picture is well-painted. [10/9/2014 1:03:19 PM] .: We have regularly over 120+ active IRC members [10/9/2014 1:03:25 PM] .: in shadows channel [10/9/2014 1:03:25 PM] nick: I think the biggest thing.... [10/9/2014 1:03:47 PM] nick: Would be crafting a very detailed press release about the merger. That would be the most crucial hurdle. [10/9/2014 1:03:51 PM] nick: People need to understand the value. [10/9/2014 1:03:54 PM] nick: They need to be educated. [10/9/2014 1:03:55 PM] .: I trust in Arlyn [10/9/2014 1:04:01 PM] Arlyn Culwick: Thanks . :) [10/9/2014 1:04:02 PM] nick: I think we have great PR guys. [10/9/2014 1:04:03 PM] .: And all we need to do is flash around ZK + Instant transactions [10/9/2014 1:04:17 PM] .: Also, rynomster is the first ever to develop Encrypted Messaging for any crypto [10/9/2014 1:04:25 PM] .: he is pretty reputable [10/9/2014 1:04:29 PM] nick: Not only does the tech add value, but your development team adds value. When I invest in a coin, I look at the team behind it. [10/9/2014 1:04:37 PM] nick: How many devs is your team? [10/9/2014 1:04:40 PM] nick: 2? [10/9/2014 1:04:40 PM] Arlyn Culwick: Nick earlier I suggested narrating it in a couple of pieces, all colliding into a single big announcement. [10/9/2014 1:04:42 PM] .: We have 2 core devs [10/9/2014 1:04:42 PM] Rynomster: 2 [10/9/2014 1:04:45 PM] .: And 3 support [10/9/2014 1:04:54 PM] Arlyn Culwick: the narration will set perceptions up to respond favourably. [10/9/2014 1:05:15 PM] nick: I need to read up on your history and community forum, but are your identities public? [10/9/2014 1:05:32 PM] nick: I agree, Arlyn. [10/9/2014 1:05:36 PM] .: Ryno has done proof of developer, but his real name is not public [10/9/2014 1:05:41 PM] .: Everyone knows rynomster on BCT though [10/9/2014 1:05:43 PM] Rynomster: mine is like semi public... No one knows about tecnovert, he doesnt really talk to anyone [10/9/2014 1:05:56 PM] nick: Okay, PoD is good. Yeah, there are always some guys in the background, which is fine. [10/9/2014 1:06:01 PM] .: tecnovert and ryno know each other in real life though [10/9/2014 1:06:05 PM] .: He is safe [10/9/2014 1:06:08 PM] nick: Was just thinking how we would structure a 'team announcement' [10/9/2014 1:06:27 PM] nick: As you know, all of our ID's are public. Not saying you need to take the same direction. [10/9/2014 1:06:54 PM] nick: XC and SDC already have PoD on both ends, so I think we are fine on that regard. [10/9/2014 1:07:03 PM] Rynomster: yea I dont have a problem with that, but tecnovert will... he doesn't want anyone to know anything about him lol [10/9/2014 1:07:12 PM] nick: That's fine. [10/9/2014 1:07:16 PM] .: That's fine ryno. You are the face of SDC, not tecnovert [10/9/2014 1:07:25 PM] ATCSECURE: I think thats okay [10/9/2014 1:07:30 PM] .: Also, we have soepkip (from blackcoin) as our current community manager [10/9/2014 1:07:30 PM] nick: Agreed, Dan. [10/9/2014 1:07:36 PM] ATCSECURE: not everybody on the team needs to be dox'd [10/9/2014 1:07:48 PM] Rynomster: lol [10/9/2014 1:08:11 PM] nick: I think we have very strong community managers / PR people, so we could handle any situation / conversation that may arise. [10/9/2014 1:08:26 PM] .: Yep [10/9/2014 1:08:34 PM] nick: I don't think we would have a problem with a hardfork either, as we've been through a few with no incident. [10/9/2014 1:08:56 PM] nick: That said, I don't see a way other than a fork to bring SDC into the loop. [10/9/2014 1:09:05 PM] nick: But again, I'm not the best tech guy, so you guys would have a better notion than I on that. [10/9/2014 1:09:15 PM] .: A hard fork is a must [10/9/2014 1:09:34 PM] ATCSECURE: yes we need to hard fork [10/9/2014 1:10:22 PM] nick: How much advanced notice would we give? [10/9/2014 1:11:09 PM] .: We would need to have the % of added XC predetermined before any notice given [10/9/2014 1:11:25 PM] .: Basically, the buy-out conditions [10/9/2014 1:11:38 PM] Rynomster: Im trying to figure out how we'd deal with it from our side, sure you guys can create more coins, but we cant just stop the blockchain [10/9/2014 1:12:00 PM] Arlyn Culwick: You can give a cutoff date. [10/9/2014 1:12:09 PM] Arlyn Culwick: Beyond which transactions won't count. [10/9/2014 1:12:34 PM] Arlyn Culwick: That date can be the same date upon which new XC coins are created. [10/9/2014 1:12:42 PM] Rynomster: but that would mean whatever shadow is trading at on the day we announce is whats decided... how do we get exchanges, merchants, etc to stop taking SDC [10/9/2014 1:12:46 PM] Arlyn Culwick: And on that date, their relative market caps will determine the ratio. [10/9/2014 1:12:55 PM] Arlyn Culwick: Ah yes, good point. [10/9/2014 1:12:59 PM] .: I think DRK's proposal outlines a good theory: https://www.zerobin.net/?bc95f647985aa947#LnIf8zydh/3zq2iVO5fKamoczdBj2vPpQDvdxVte21g= [10/9/2014 1:13:18 PM] Arlyn Culwick: Yeah. [10/9/2014 1:13:23 PM] .: Is it possible to freeze the blockchain? [10/9/2014 1:13:29 PM] .: Like it says in that DRK proposal? [10/9/2014 1:13:40 PM] Arlyn Culwick: I don't think so. [10/9/2014 1:14:03 PM] .: Ryno, maybe ask Evan his thoughts on it (as if are interested in the merger with DRK) and let's hear his thoughts ;) [10/9/2014 1:14:17 PM] Rynomster: mmmm well we still use a checkpoint server, so in theory we could create a checkpoint that wont allow any blocks through, but it will eventually just start banning everyone I guess :\ [10/9/2014 1:14:17 PM] .: I am sure we can figure something out though [10/9/2014 1:14:31 PM] nick: We would need to draft a statement to the exchanges. [10/9/2014 1:14:36 PM] nick: What exchanges are you traded on? [10/9/2014 1:14:44 PM] nick: I have good relations with Bittrex / Polo [10/9/2014 1:15:11 PM] Rynomster: MP, Polo, Bittrex, c-cex, cryptsy, swisscex, lazycoins [10/9/2014 1:16:56 PM] Rynomster: its really difficult to do this without the communities though [10/9/2014 1:17:14 PM] Rynomster: need to be really convincing [10/9/2014 1:17:54 PM] Rynomster: from our side it would be easy, we can announce we are possibly going to merge with "someone", and get people to discuss it [10/9/2014 1:18:07 PM] .: It would be fine, IMO. We would already work out the logistics / details of the merger. Lets say XC's supply is increased by 20%, then distributed to SDC holders. [10/9/2014 1:18:20 PM] .: I really don't think it will take much convincing [10/9/2014 1:18:43 PM] ATCSECURE: I agree having the community support is a must-have [10/9/2014 1:19:14 PM] .: the biggest community we would need to win, I think, is XC's community [10/9/2014 1:19:16 PM] Arlyn Culwick: Getting the communities on board would minimise the shock of it. [10/9/2014 1:19:19 PM] .: I feel SDC's will be easier to win [10/9/2014 1:19:23 PM] .: but i could be wrong [10/9/2014 1:19:27 PM] Arlyn Culwick: And they'd spread the excitement. [10/9/2014 1:19:36 PM] .: Well, it may be equally difficult... [10/9/2014 1:19:50 PM] Rynomster: our community is allot smaller :P [10/9/2014 1:19:52 PM] .: But I feel that the general consensus will be positive in both communities [10/9/2014 1:19:57 PM] nick: We need to show them why eco-systems in crypto is more valuable than just being on your own. [10/9/2014 1:20:06 PM] Arlyn Culwick: That's not too hard [10/9/2014 1:20:11 PM] .: Here is how I see it [10/9/2014 1:20:13 PM] nick: This is how I approach NHZ by creating an eco system with NXT / Bitshares X and XC [10/9/2014 1:20:50 PM] nick: I agree, I think the XC community has a better understanding of where value is derived from, and the direction that we (XC) and crypto needs to move in. [10/9/2014 1:21:01 PM] Arlyn Culwick: I love the idea of a future rich in partnerships and collaboration. [10/9/2014 1:21:08 PM] Rynomster: just checked on the dns seeder, there are between 437 and 636 nodes [10/9/2014 1:21:10 PM] .: the pro for SDC is that they get attached to a longer standing, reputable coin with a clear vision and very strong tech. They will get XC coins and XC inc shares. This is a type of double plus. What they lose though, is potential gain. It's much easier for SDC's 500k market cap to increase 5x in value than XC's 2.7m market cap to 5x [10/9/2014 1:21:45 PM] .: The pro for XC is that it gains double the devs, double the community, (well this is pro for SDC too), but it gains ZK, instant transactions, html5, lite wallet, and possibly voip/video [10/9/2014 1:22:19 PM] .: the cons for XC is that the community may feel that their XC's just became inflated [10/9/2014 1:22:23 PM] Rynomster: we dont have instant transactions yet :P it gains a valuable idea I guess [10/9/2014 1:22:39 PM] .: ryno, you can do instant transactions. no problem :) [10/9/2014 1:22:40 PM] nick: Well, with xc inc shares, that is something people need to buy into. [10/9/2014 1:22:46 PM] nick: Details still being discussed on that. [10/9/2014 1:22:49 PM] nick: Can't say much. [10/9/2014 1:22:55 PM] .: I thought 10 XC = 1 share [10/9/2014 1:22:58 PM] .: automaticaly? [10/9/2014 1:23:15 PM] Arlyn Culwick: That's the current plan, yes. And people can also buy shares. [10/9/2014 1:23:15 PM] ATCSECURE: and instant transactions provides the ability to bring point of sales to the table [10/9/2014 1:23:52 PM] .: Instant transactions that can processes millions of tx's a second as opposed to bitcoins 7 per second is a huge deal [10/9/2014 1:24:11 PM] Arlyn Culwick: I love the idea of instant tx. Bloat? [10/9/2014 1:24:53 PM | Edited 1:25:08 PM] Rynomster: no we'll have prunable outputs on our blocktrees... we'd need to explain the concept, it works with mini chains, its a similar concept to side chains I guess, just allot more practical [10/9/2014 1:25:08 PM] Arlyn Culwick: I'd love to hear about that. [10/9/2014 1:25:14 PM] ATCSECURE: hmm okay are masternodes required? [10/9/2014 1:25:20 PM] .: It is definitive that XC holders will automatically receive XC inc shares at a yet-to-be-finalized ratio, right? [10/9/2014 1:25:29 PM] ATCSECURE: . yes [10/9/2014 1:25:44 PM] ATCSECURE: the goal is to reward xc holders [10/9/2014 1:26:22 PM] Rynomster: no, but there will be pools, so the nodes closer to the other pools would kinda be "master" nodes, but because of the nature of p2p, it will work itself out [10/9/2014 1:26:56 PM] ATCSECURE: ok [10/9/2014 1:27:01 PM | Edited 1:27:10 PM] Arlyn Culwick: So if someone controls a pool, effectively they're more influential because of there being a smaller number of players (i.e. pools). [10/9/2014 1:27:10 PM] Rynomster: its a work in progress concept, and needs lots of experimentation, but its something new and unique :) [10/9/2014 1:27:26 PM] ATCSECURE: well we could work this into the mixers [10/9/2014 1:28:21 PM] Rynomster: yea we have thought about the possibility, there's allot we've thought about, and allot we still need to think about... don't really have time to experiment that much :) but if we had the time it would happen [10/9/2014 1:28:46 PM] Arlyn Culwick: Is there a chance that a merge could give you more time? [10/9/2014 1:29:15 PM] Arlyn Culwick: i.e. greater dev resources, etc. [10/9/2014 1:29:27 PM] Rynomster: hehe well I think it would, we currently work about 16-18 hours / day, I feel a merge will allow more time to experiment, seeing as there are more resources, etc [10/9/2014 1:29:41 PM | Edited 1:29:56 PM] Arlyn Culwick: A question about zero-knowledge proofs: they're an amazing technology if you can get rid of the bloat and the need for a server. But what sorts of real-world use cases are there for them? - they're not flexible, i.e. you can't choose to reveal/prove the amount sent, the receiver, or the sender's address independently of each other. - so will they only be useful between people who trust each other? [10/9/2014 1:31:35 PM] Rynomster: you can prove to the receiver how much you've sent to him without him ever knowing where it came from [10/9/2014 1:32:05 PM] Arlyn Culwick: In a lot of scenarios that's a limitation. [10/9/2014 1:33:08 PM] .: The more options XC has the better. ZK as an added option, adds value to the currency & platform. [10/9/2014 1:33:19 PM] Arlyn Culwick: Yes, definitely. [10/9/2014 1:33:30 PM] Arlyn Culwick: It's just important that we know how to use it. [10/9/2014 1:33:35 PM] Rynomster: We're not moving to a full anonymous network, people would only use them to separate the outputs from the inputs [10/9/2014 1:33:55 PM] Arlyn Culwick: Ok. [10/9/2014 1:33:57 PM] Rynomster: so if you want to end the money trail, you'll have that capability [10/9/2014 1:34:02 PM] Arlyn Culwick: Nice. [10/9/2014 1:34:08 PM] Rynomster: it needs to be a hybrid network, because its PoS [10/9/2014 1:34:09 PM] Arlyn Culwick: Very useful for paying to yourself. [10/9/2014 1:34:43 PM] Rynomster: yea lol, you could pay yourself and then send to the next person, then they'll know it came from you, but not where you got it from [10/9/2014 1:34:51 PM] Arlyn Culwick: Indeed :) [10/9/2014 1:35:09 PM] Arlyn Culwick: That's the sort of practical thing I'm trying to get my head around for retail scenarios [10/9/2014 1:35:19 PM] Arlyn Culwick: - and any scenario where you don't necessarily trust the other party. [10/9/2014 1:35:27 PM] Rynomster: we also have encrypted narrations on our stealth address implementation, as well as narrations / references on normal transactions [10/9/2014 1:35:35 PM] Arlyn Culwick: Narrations? [10/9/2014 1:35:44 PM] Rynomster: like a reference for the payment [10/9/2014 1:35:50 PM] Arlyn Culwick: Oh I see. [10/9/2014 1:35:52 PM] Arlyn Culwick: Provable? [10/9/2014 1:36:17 PM] Rynomster: yea [10/9/2014 1:36:21 PM] Arlyn Culwick: That's very useful. [10/9/2014 1:36:56 PM] Rynomster: well on normal transactions the references arent encrypted, as you may not have the recipients public key, but on stealth address transactions they're always encrypted [10/9/2014 1:38:36 PM] Rynomster: the only thing is with zk payments we can't use that, otherwise people would know where it came from I guess... thats a limitation [10/9/2014 1:38:48 PM] Rynomster: well people as in the receiver [10/9/2014 1:39:16 PM] .: HEy [10/9/2014 1:39:29 PM | Edited 1:39:40 PM] Arlyn Culwick: Yeah. If there's a way to prove payment to only the receiver, without making the information public on the blockchain, then this would extend XC's current functionality. [10/9/2014 1:39:48 PM] *** Rynomster has changed the conversation topic to "A confidential discussion amongst awesome people" *** [10/9/2014 1:40:04 PM] Arlyn Culwick: But of course ZK isn't really intended for that. [10/9/2014 1:40:14 PM] Arlyn Culwick: It's a total blackout. [10/9/2014 1:40:21 PM] Arlyn Culwick: Nice title there :) [10/9/2014 1:41:01 PM] nick: :) [10/9/2014 1:41:09 PM] Rynomster: you guys happy with continuing discussions tomorrow or at a later stage? once we've all had time to digest it? :) [10/9/2014 1:41:19 PM] nick: I have like 19 conversations going right now, so excuse my lack of responses. [10/9/2014 1:41:25 PM] Arlyn Culwick: I would be. Dinner time here. [10/9/2014 1:41:34 PM] Arlyn Culwick: - as in South Africa Ryno... [10/9/2014 1:41:38 PM] ATCSECURE: yes that works ryno [10/9/2014 1:41:40 PM] nick: That sounds good, give us time to go over this as well. [10/9/2014 1:42:04 PM | Edited 1:42:08 PM] Rynomster: awesome :D thanks for the chat guys :D Looking forward to the next convo :D [10/9/2014 1:42:16 PM] Arlyn Culwick: Indeed. Thank you. Exciting stuff here. :) [10/9/2014 1:42:23 PM] Rynomster: and nice to meet you all [10/9/2014 1:42:23 PM] .: Thanks for your time guys [10/9/2014 1:42:31 PM] Arlyn Culwick: Thanks for setting this up .. [10/9/2014 1:42:36 PM] Rynomster: yes thank you for your time [10/9/2014 1:42:40 PM] Rynomster: :) [10/9/2014 1:42:41 PM] .: No problem [10/9/2014 1:43:01 PM] .: Hopefully we can come to an agreement where both parties can greatly benefit :) [10/9/2014 1:43:22 PM] Arlyn Culwick: I'm optimistic from the way things look here. [10/9/2014 1:44:06 PM] .: Got to fully convince one more person on our side. I think we can though. [10/9/2014 1:44:31 PM] .: Anyways, talk to y'all later [10/9/2014 1:44:38 PM] ATCSECURE: yes thank you everyone [10/9/2014 1:45:11 PM] Arlyn Culwick: Cheers everyone! Title: Re: Shadow/cash/coin called on trolling Blocknet (it's why) on Oct 21st. 100% Post by: TrangLee on November 03, 2014, 06:39:59 PM This ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ TrollsRoyce and Pookie and LongNshort will not have it. They must protect their portion at all costs.
Title: Re: Shadow/cash/coin called on trolling Blocknet (it's why) on Oct 21st. 100% Post by: Piston Honda on November 03, 2014, 06:44:36 PM You know what, I'm to the point I won't touch coins this group is involved in, OR the other 'groups' that they fight with. Mind you that prob doesn't leave many coins out there to 'invest' in lol :(
Title: Re: Shadow/cash/coin called on trolling Blocknet (it's why) on Oct 21st. 100% Post by: The Master on November 04, 2014, 01:05:56 AM You know what, I'm to the point I won't touch coins this group is involved in, OR the other 'groups' that they fight with. Mind you that prob doesn't leave many coins out there to 'invest' in lol :( I won't touch SDC. They attack anything that they think may threaten them. That doesn't mean their target is bad. I'd more likely buy their target then SDC. Title: Re: Shadow/cash/coin called on trolling Blocknet (it's why) on Oct 21st. 100% Post by: Black Fire on November 04, 2014, 06:57:02 AM The SDC dev is cool it's the 3-4 big bag holders that throw their weight around and force things and started this smear campaign. Those guys are responsible for 90% of the trolling and shit that comes from SDC. If it wasn't for their BS tactics I'd still be a big supporter of the coin and it's dev. They really should focus their attention and efforts on making SDC a great coin and not pissing off everyone else.
Title: Re: Shadow/cash/coin called on trolling Blocknet (it's why) on Oct 21st. 100% Post by: adhitthana on November 04, 2014, 11:02:45 AM Some of us here are not kids and we remember all the scams through history ... http://www.thsh.co.uk/files/images/applicationfiles/5343.6865.31OctHalloweenNosferatuandEllen/630x44.fitwithoffset.jpgTitle: Re: Shadow/cash/coin called on trolling Blocknet (it's why) on Oct 21st. 100% Post by: TrangLee on November 05, 2014, 04:10:21 AM You know what, I'm to the point I won't touch coins this group is involved in, OR the other 'groups' that they fight with. Mind you that prob doesn't leave many coins out there to 'invest' in lol :( I won't touch SDC. They attack anything that they think may threaten them. That doesn't mean their target is bad. I'd more likely buy their target then SDC. Well indeed that is what they do. They are now after a new coin called Zerovert https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=846471.0 . Why what did poor Zerovert do to get such attention? They have the worlds very 1st ZK-SNARKS implementation. What is that? It's basically Zerocoin/cash. A holy grail of anonymity. The"zk-snarks" are zero knowledge proofs. A very complex math equation that allows transaction while being untraceable. Thats super simple but long story short it was gonna be SDC's premier claim to fame after their dismal fail of coming in #2 to LibrexCoin with worlds 1st pos coin staking Android wallet. Karma is such a bitch after their smear campaign against Blocknet. You reap what you sew. https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FOMqLtkB.gif&t=545&c=RY3GwalChNYQoQ Title: Re: Shadow/cash/coin called on trolling Blocknet (it's why) on Oct 21st. 100% Post by: 00Smurf on November 05, 2014, 04:18:38 AM You know what, I'm to the point I won't touch coins this group is involved in, OR the other 'groups' that they fight with. Mind you that prob doesn't leave many coins out there to 'invest' in lol :( I won't touch SDC. They attack anything that they think may threaten them. That doesn't mean their target is bad. I'd more likely buy their target then SDC. Well indeed that is what they do. They are now after a new coin called Zerovert https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=846471.0 . Why what did poor Zerovert do to get such attention? They have the worlds very 1st ZK-SNARKS implementation. What is that? It's basically Zerocoin/cash. A holy grail of anonymity. The"zk-snarks" are zero knowledge proofs. A very complex math equation that allows transaction while being untraceable. Thats super simple but long story short it was gonna be SDC's premier claim to fame after their dismal fail of coming in #2 to LibrexCoin with worlds 1st pos coin staking Android wallet. Karma is such a bitch after their smear campaign against Blocknet. You reap what you sew. https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FOMqLtkB.gif&t=545&c=RY3GwalChNYQoQ Are you calling all the other people asking the same kinds of questions trolls? They made an announcement, and if you read the fucking thread you would see its more than just "sdc" trolls as you put it asking questions. This is from the Vert irc [20:13] <jwinterm> supposed new project from vertcoin lead dev: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=846471.new#new [20:14] <jwinterm> nopo The_Hox, think it's still closed source [20:15] <The_Hox> yeah the new project looks good but im afraid it will be closed source too [20:17] <jwinterm> seems that way, it's not even clear poramin is working on it at this point, just a newbie account posting and brand new reddit account [20:20] * dreni83 (~dreni83@89.221.253.15) has joined #vertcoin [20:26] <WRA|00Smurf> why make a new account for it? [20:26] <WRA|00Smurf> plus they keep delete ing questionms [20:37] * discoffee (~discoffee@109.200.242.36.pool.breezein.net) Quit (Remote host closed the connection) [20:58] * ticking (~ticking@87.253.189.132) has joined #vertcoin [21:08] <jwinterm> I dunno WRA|00Smurf, would be nice to get some confirmation from dev account on reddit or btctalk [21:08] * jacobt (~oojacoboo@72-12-25-73.static.networktel.net) has joined #vertcoin [21:10] * oojacoboo (~oojacoboo@96-38-241-146.static.gwnt.ga.charter.com) Quit (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) [21:11] * oojacoboo (~oojacoboo@96-38-241-146.static.gwnt.ga.charter.com) has joined #vertcoin [21:12] * oojacoboo (~oojacoboo@96-38-241-146.static.gwnt.ga.charter.com) Quit (Client Quit) [21:14] * oojacoboo (~oojacoboo@96-38-241-146.static.gwnt.ga.charter.com) has joined #vertcoin [21:14] * jacobt (~oojacoboo@72-12-25-73.static.networktel.net) Quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) [21:15] * ticking (~ticking@87.253.189.132) Quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) [21:26] * The_Hox (76d08c35@gateway/web/freenode/ip.118.208.140.53) Quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) [21:55] * The_Hox (76d08c35@gateway/web/freenode/ip.118.208.140.53) has joined #vertcoin [22:12] * ticking (~ticking@87.253.189.132) has joined #vertcoin [22:14] * VaultEX-icecube (~icecube45@h-68-164-80-191.snva.ca.dynamic.megapath.net) Quit (Quit: ZNC - http://znc.in) [22:17] <VertTipBot> 24 hours till winner is chosen. Current Pot: 5.5VTC [22:17] * ticking (~ticking@87.253.189.132) Quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) [22:21] * crack (~crack@2a01:e35:2e62:e0b0:ce51:28fc:5a69:ae33) Quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) [22:32] * VaultEX-icecube (~icecube45@h-68-164-80-191.snva.ca.dynamic.megapath.net) has joined #vertcoin [22:35] * crack (~crack@mar75-4-82-230-46-11.fbx.proxad.net) has joined #vertcoin [22:52] <The_Hox> Has anyone spoken to any devs about zerovert? [22:52] <The_Hox> seems to have come out of no where and smells a bit fishy [22:55] <jwinterm> I agree The_Hox [22:57] * BotaniCar (~BotaniCar@78-1-189-167.adsl.net.t-com.hr) has joined #vertcoin [22:59] <jwinterm> just changed my post on reddit, asking for clarification [23:00] * BotaniCar|2 (~BotaniCar@93-138-55-155.adsl.net.t-com.hr) Quit (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) [23:09] <The_Hox> I have PM'd a couple of the devs about it, we'll see what they say [23:10] * bitbumper (~bitbumper@197.115.124.24.cm.sunflower.com) Quit (Quit: Leaving) [23:14] * ticking (~ticking@87.253.189.132) has joined #vertcoin Oh is that other people in the Zerovert thread asking questions? Title: Re: Shadow/cash/coin called on trolling Blocknet (it's why) on Oct 21st. 100% Post by: Don Flamenco on November 10, 2014, 01:40:35 AM Wow that really is eye opening? Those guys pretty much didnt want their dev to merge the the coin as it would cut their total coin amounts and that would kill their influence over it. Thats pretty greedy and self centered. These guys claiming to be "Angel investors" really have everyone else's intrests at heart right? lol They have their wallet's interest at heart. Fuck SDC. Those three are so toxic. Title: Re: Shadow/cash/coin called on trolling Blocknet (it's why) on Oct 21st. 100% Post by: G-Bert on November 10, 2014, 02:56:41 AM Wow that really is eye opening? Those guys pretty much didnt want their dev to merge the the coin as it would cut their total coin amounts and that would kill their influence over it. Thats pretty greedy and self centered. These guys claiming to be "Angel investors" really have everyone else's intrests at heart right? lol They have their wallet's interest at heart. Fuck SDC. Those three are so toxic. IMO, there shouldn't be a hate campaign against SDC. Rynomster seems like a decent guy to me. I found this post yesterday, and posted in the blocknet thread. I don't really have a problem with whales, but I definitely think that they shouldn't be able to dictate the priority of development, the development requirements or the future of the coin.. The first few months of shadow I was completely oblivious to the fact that whales.. The more things progressed, the more people were offering funds to hire extra developers, managers, technical writers, journalists, etc. The team has obviously grown, and it took me a while to realise I'm no longer able to make decisions on my own, but it seems to be moving forward. I really don't like the delayed open source thing, but I guess you need to protect investments for a bit. The whales also tend to know allot about other whales, and obviously they've been in the game allot longer than late adopters, so they have very valuable input most of the time. I would definitely enjoy developing allot more if there wasn't a direct monetary value, and if people didn't care about the price. Some day people will realise that this is all epic research and experimentation, and that the monetary value is actually curbing the innovation, because they constantly asking are we there yet, and if you miss a deadline or there's a bug or a hack that the developers weren't in control of, the whales can put a massive dent in an entire communities investment. If you read the original chatlog, then think about the massive fudfest that happened, then read this... well, make your own minds up (p.s. i'm invested in both coins, its a shame sdc didn't end up being part of blocknet, could have been a good thing imo, hopefully those fuckers dump and move on, and ryno can be able to make his own decision) edit - the most important part of rynos post i think should be highlighted... Some day people will realise that this is all epic research and experimentation, and that the monetary value is actually curbing the innovation, because they constantly asking are we there yet, and if you miss a deadline or there's a bug or a hack that the developers weren't in control of, the whales can put a massive dent in an entire communities investment. Title: Re: Shadow/cash/coin called on trolling Blocknet (it's why) on Oct 21st. 100% Post by: Polycoin on March 04, 2015, 03:28:35 AM damn this scam
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