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Title: Who are the most trustworthy Bitcointalk users? Post by: efiin on November 02, 2014, 04:16:49 PM Who are the most friendly & trustworthy of this site? Maybe you haven't dealt with them personally but they are known to offer a trustworthy service or something of similar nature.
Obviously the staff members are trustworthy.....right? Title: Re: Who are the most trustworthy Bitcointalk users? Post by: segvec on November 02, 2014, 04:25:43 PM tomatocage, haploid, dannyhamilton, loureed.
Title: Re: Who are the most trustworthy Bitcointalk users? Post by: pissedoff on November 02, 2014, 04:25:47 PM Vod & Tomatocage are by far the most trustworthy on this forum and the Bitcoin community.
Title: Re: Who are the most trustworthy Bitcointalk users? Post by: Flashman on November 02, 2014, 04:30:00 PM Personally, I'd trust dannyhamilton with coin, grnbrg (Does escrow/transfer for LRM ) and some personal friends. Not saying anyone else mentioned is untrustworthy, just haven't had dealings or observed them closely.
Title: Re: Who are the most trustworthy Bitcointalk users? Post by: CounterEntropy on November 02, 2014, 04:34:41 PM tomatocage, haploid, dannyhamilton, loureed. Vod & Tomatocage are by far the most trustworthy on this forum and the Bitcoin community. I personally dont know anyone of them. Have they published their personal identification details ? Otherwise, why should I trust them ? Title: Re: Who are the most trustworthy Bitcointalk users? Post by: pissedoff on November 02, 2014, 04:35:52 PM tomatocage, haploid, dannyhamilton, loureed. I personally dont know anyone of them. Have they published their personal identification details ? Otherwise, why should I trust them ? You haven't been around long? They are probably the most well known on the forum. personal identification doesn't mean anything. They have traded in the thousands and probably hundred thousands and they are probably the most active presense within the forum. The other one I would say is Slush & Theymos. Title: Re: Who are the most trustworthy Bitcointalk users? Post by: HELP.org on November 02, 2014, 04:36:16 PM Obviously the staff members are trustworthy.....right? Wrong. Don't trust anyone on here. Many people who trusted the operators of this site have lost money. Title: Re: Who are the most trustworthy Bitcointalk users? Post by: segvec on November 02, 2014, 04:36:21 PM tomatocage, haploid, dannyhamilton, loureed. Vod & Tomatocage are by far the most trustworthy on this forum and the Bitcoin community. I personally dont know anyone of them. Have they published their personal identification details ? Otherwise, why should I trust them ? All proved massive trust. For them to scam, they would have waste months of their time for the minuscule amount in which they hijacked. Title: Re: Who are the most trustworthy Bitcointalk users? Post by: CounterEntropy on November 02, 2014, 04:40:58 PM tomatocage, haploid, dannyhamilton, loureed. Vod & Tomatocage are by far the most trustworthy on this forum and the Bitcoin community. I personally dont know anyone of them. Have they published their personal identification details ? Otherwise, why should I trust them ? All proved massive trust. For them to scam, they would have waste months of their time for the minuscule amount in which they hijacked. How can u trust someone whom u have neither seen in real life nor have personal identification details ? Is not it normal, that someone to be trusted, he/she should declare his/her real identity ? Title: Re: Who are the most trustworthy Bitcointalk users? Post by: shorena on November 02, 2014, 05:51:42 PM -snip- How can u trust someone whom u have neither seen in real life nor have personal identification details ? Is not it normal, that someone to be trusted, he/she should declare his/her real identity ? If I declare to you now, that I am: Sandra L. Ward Camiño Real, 73 48380 Aulesti how does that make me trustworthy? Title: Re: Who are the most trustworthy Bitcointalk users? Post by: Flashman on November 02, 2014, 05:56:04 PM For them to scam, they would have waste months of their time for the minuscule amount in which they hijacked. Unfortunately, we have seen long cons before, apparent "members of community in good standing" participating for months or years without a sign of dishonesty, suddenly disappearing with a bunch of coins. Title: Re: Who are the most trustworthy Bitcointalk users? Post by: Gleb Goodston on November 02, 2014, 06:09:43 PM tomatocage, haploid, dannyhamilton, loureed. Vod & Tomatocage are by far the most trustworthy on this forum and the Bitcoin community. I personally dont know anyone of them. Have they published their personal identification details ? Otherwise, why should I trust them ? All proved massive trust. For them to scam, they would have waste months of their time for the minuscule amount in which they hijacked. How can u trust someone whom u have neither seen in real life nor have personal identification details ? Is not it normal, that someone to be trusted, he/she should declare his/her real identity ? ID means nothing at all the authorities rarely do anything relating to Bitcoin by the looks of past events TF & pirate and other sort of scams. Title: Re: Who are the most trustworthy Bitcointalk users? Post by: CounterEntropy on November 02, 2014, 06:17:05 PM -snip- How can u trust someone whom u have neither seen in real life nor have personal identification details ? Is not it normal, that someone to be trusted, he/she should declare his/her real identity ? If I declare to you now, that I am: Sandra L. Ward Camiño Real, 73 48380 Aulesti how does that make me trustworthy? Personal identification for trust is not what u declare randomly on the forum. You need to submit a clear image of yours holding your passport/driving license etc. and a code written on paper that would be pre-submitted to the forum. You'll find something like this partially on How? Get Verified of http://www.reddit.com/r/GirlsGoneBitcoin. Title: Re: Who are the most trustworthy Bitcointalk users? Post by: Gleb Goodston on November 02, 2014, 06:21:48 PM -snip- How can u trust someone whom u have neither seen in real life nor have personal identification details ? Is not it normal, that someone to be trusted, he/she should declare his/her real identity ? If I declare to you now, that I am: Sandra L. Ward Camiño Real, 73 48380 Aulesti how does that make me trustworthy? Personal identification for trust is not what u declare randomly on the forum. You need to submit a clear image of yours holding your passport/driving license etc. and a code written on paper that would be pre-submitted to the forum. You'll find something like this partially on How? Get Verified of http://www.reddit.com/r/GirlsGoneBitcoin. What can you do with the ID though? Nothing. Except some people could pretend to be you thats a downside to providing your id otherwise your just going to know their name & address but that isn't going to help getting back what ever you lose to them. Title: Re: Who are the most trustworthy Bitcointalk users? Post by: CounterEntropy on November 02, 2014, 06:24:49 PM -snip- How can u trust someone whom u have neither seen in real life nor have personal identification details ? Is not it normal, that someone to be trusted, he/she should declare his/her real identity ? If I declare to you now, that I am: Sandra L. Ward Camiño Real, 73 48380 Aulesti how does that make me trustworthy? Personal identification for trust is not what u declare randomly on the forum. You need to submit a clear image of yours holding your passport/driving license etc. and a code written on paper that would be pre-submitted to the forum. You'll find something like this partially on How? Get Verified of http://www.reddit.com/r/GirlsGoneBitcoin. What can you do with the ID though? Nothing. Except some people could pretend to be you thats a downside to providing your id otherwise your just going to know their name & address but that isn't going to help getting back what ever you lose to them. Knowing the real name and address definitely helps a lot in getting back the stolen things. In general people dont tend to scam with their real identity. Title: Re: Who are the most trustworthy Bitcointalk users? Post by: Gleb Goodston on November 02, 2014, 06:28:00 PM -snip- How can u trust someone whom u have neither seen in real life nor have personal identification details ? Is not it normal, that someone to be trusted, he/she should declare his/her real identity ? If I declare to you now, that I am: Sandra L. Ward Camiño Real, 73 48380 Aulesti how does that make me trustworthy? Personal identification for trust is not what u declare randomly on the forum. You need to submit a clear image of yours holding your passport/driving license etc. and a code written on paper that would be pre-submitted to the forum. You'll find something like this partially on How? Get Verified of http://www.reddit.com/r/GirlsGoneBitcoin. What can you do with the ID though? Nothing. Except some people could pretend to be you thats a downside to providing your id otherwise your just going to know their name & address but that isn't going to help getting back what ever you lose to them. Knowing the real name and address definitely helps a lot in getting back the stolen things. In general people dont tend to scam with their real identity. Hasn't stopped people before search up the thread of Bitcoin major scams a lot of the people who did scam are actually known to the public some exposed by people who have met them and others have provided their ID. Title: Re: Who are the most trustworthy Bitcointalk users? Post by: b!z on November 02, 2014, 06:50:25 PM -snip- How can u trust someone whom u have neither seen in real life nor have personal identification details ? Is not it normal, that someone to be trusted, he/she should declare his/her real identity ? If I declare to you now, that I am: Sandra L. Ward Camiño Real, 73 48380 Aulesti how does that make me trustworthy? Personal identification for trust is not what u declare randomly on the forum. You need to submit a clear image of yours holding your passport/driving license etc. and a code written on paper that would be pre-submitted to the forum. You'll find something like this partially on How? Get Verified of http://www.reddit.com/r/GirlsGoneBitcoin. What can you do with the ID though? Nothing. Except some people could pretend to be you thats a downside to providing your id otherwise your just going to know their name & address but that isn't going to help getting back what ever you lose to them. Knowing the real name and address definitely helps a lot in getting back the stolen things. In general people dont tend to scam with their real identity. GLBST, BFL? Title: Re: Who are the most trustworthy Bitcointalk users? Post by: pissedoff on November 02, 2014, 08:08:13 PM I think theymos has to be he's lived up to having millions worth which were donated & instead of using it for personal gain hes reinvesting to make the forum better that takes some good morals.
Title: Re: Who are the most trustworthy Bitcointalk users? Post by: Quickseller on November 02, 2014, 08:19:38 PM tomatocage, haploid, dannyhamilton, loureed. Vod & Tomatocage are by far the most trustworthy on this forum and the Bitcoin community. I personally dont know anyone of them. Have they published their personal identification details ? Otherwise, why should I trust them ? I would say the most trustworthy people would likely be one of the few people who have organized multiple group buys successfully, as people have trusted them with massive amounts of bitcoin in the past and they have followed through Title: Re: Who are the most trustworthy Bitcointalk users? Post by: erre on November 02, 2014, 08:21:35 PM Kluge
Title: Re: Who are the most trustworthy Bitcointalk users? Post by: mprep on November 02, 2014, 08:30:19 PM I'd say both the admins, theymos and BadBear, are one of the most trusted members I've dealth with. From the ones I haven't personally had any experience with but heard much about would include Vod, Tomatocage, DannyHamilton, Kluge. I've probably forgotten some though.
Title: Re: Who are the most trustworthy Bitcointalk users? Post by: galbros on November 02, 2014, 08:54:19 PM The only person I've witnessed exhibit considerable trust is dooglus. He held thousands of coins at just-dice and when the time came to close he made efforts to return those coins to their owners. I'm sure there are many others, but in the gambling space I would say he is the most trusted.
I do not think I'd automatically trust a staff member here, though I can see giving them the benefit of the doubt. I really have no alternative but to trust theymos if I'm going to use the site. Which brings up an interesting question, trust with what? Basically if someone has been here a long time (but have to watch for sold accounts) that is some indicator of trust as presumably they will not just throw the social capital they've built up over time on the boards away. I think it helped that dooglus had been a frequent quality poster in the gambling section before he started just-dice. I'd say people like stunna and dogedice.me are people I am trusting more in the gambling space. Title: Re: Who are the most trustworthy Bitcointalk users? Post by: -ck on November 02, 2014, 09:19:42 PM This is more or less what the trust system was created for since you can never get universal agreement on who can be trusted. Yes there is a lot of criticism for the trust system, and unfortunately it tends to attract trust ratings only when exchange of money is involved but then it is a sign of how many people have trusted each other with money.
Title: Re: Who are the most trustworthy Bitcointalk users? Post by: Bittings on November 03, 2014, 01:58:19 PM Trust is hard to verify on here, especially since people can sell their accounts.
Title: Re: Who are the most trustworthy Bitcointalk users? Post by: pissedoff on November 03, 2014, 02:02:45 PM Trust is hard to verify on here, especially since people can sell their accounts. That's true...I still don't know if it's TF when he's replying to threads. Title: Re: Who are the most trustworthy Bitcointalk users? Post by: erre on November 03, 2014, 02:18:27 PM Trust is hard to verify on here, especially since people can sell their accounts. Yep, even legendary membees with green truant are regularly sold. That's why I would suggest to not give absolute trust to anybody except the over-mentioned members. Title: Re: Who are the most trustworthy Bitcointalk users? Post by: pissedoff on November 03, 2014, 02:24:59 PM Trust is hard to verify on here, especially since people can sell their accounts. Yep, even legendary membees with green truant are regularly sold. That's why I would suggest to not give absolute trust to anybody except the over-mentioned members. What do you mean "absolute trust"? If you have successfully completed a deal or you think a person is a geniune person the standard practice is to give trust..trust is meant as a indicator and not a selling point. Just because someone has green everywhere shouldn't affect your judgement too much but make you feel that they are a better choice over someone who you don't know too much about. I wouldn't stop giving trust just because the account could be sold on later...you never know that. Title: Re: Who are the most trustworthy Bitcointalk users? Post by: erre on November 03, 2014, 02:34:37 PM Trust is hard to verify on here, especially since people can sell their accounts. Yep, even legendary membees with green truant are regularly sold. That's why I would suggest to not give absolute trust to anybody except the over-mentioned members. What do you mean "absolute trust"? If you have successfully completed a deal or you think a person is a geniune person the standard practice is to give trust..trust is meant as a indicator and not a selling point. Just because someone has green everywhere shouldn't affect your judgement too much but make you feel that they are a better choice over someone who you don't know too much about. I wouldn't stop giving trust just because the account could be sold on later...you never know that. " absolute " trust, for me , equals to risk money. I have used the trust system sometimes to score users, and i look at it to have an " idea" about who i'm dealing with , but I would not risk my money on a green trust. But I will for sure give some money to the overmentioned members without any guarantee, because I " absolute" trust them. Title: Re: Who are the most trustworthy Bitcointalk users? Post by: Raya on November 03, 2014, 02:57:58 PM Vod & Theymos!
Title: Re: Who are the most trustworthy Bitcointalk users? Post by: RaheemRaj on November 03, 2014, 03:03:19 PM Tomatocage, vod & dooglus.
Title: Re: Who are the most trustworthy Bitcointalk users? Post by: JeffDeChesare on November 03, 2014, 03:08:10 PM Vod, Tomatocage & Dabs.
Title: Re: Who are the most trustworthy Bitcointalk users? Post by: Gleb Goodston on November 03, 2014, 03:09:12 PM Can't understand why Kludge hasn't been mentioned as much as Vod & Tomatocage.
Title: Re: Who are the most trustworthy Bitcointalk users? Post by: redsn0w on November 03, 2014, 07:59:35 PM I think the most trust users in the forum is : satoshi .
Title: Re: Who are the most trustworthy Bitcointalk users? Post by: Raize on November 03, 2014, 08:48:54 PM In order of more trusted to less trusted: (but all still trustworthy, IMHO)
casascius theymos johnthedong (John K.) Keefe sgornick serp There are mods, developers, and etc. I trust here, too, I just haven't had any trades/transactions with them, but I'd loan them a Bitcoin without a second thought. I also trust nanotube, but he's not really a BTCTalk person, and I'm not even sure how active he still is on IRC. Another person I gave considerable trust to but has seemingly went MIA is legolouman (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=39100). I'm always worried someone will hack or compromise an inactive user's account and then use the trust ratings I've given to scam people. I'm hoping that people maybe consider the time/date of the trust rating before entering into a new deal with someone, though. Title: Re: Who are the most trustworthy Bitcointalk users? Post by: Omikifuse on November 03, 2014, 08:57:34 PM Can't understand why Kludge hasn't been mentioned as much as Vod & Tomatocage. Because he don't chase scammers like Vod and tomato, so his name appears less in meta topics, and less people complaining about how untrust was get negative trust from him? Title: Re: Who are the most trustworthy Bitcointalk users? Post by: hilariousandco on November 04, 2014, 07:46:25 AM The most trusted people should be those who have held on to large amounts of others money and returned it in due course, but even that can be used to build up confidence for a scam later on so I'd always advise caution with any trade. I also don't think users merely busting scams or scammers should necessarily equate to them being trusted with your money.
I think the most trust users in the forum is : satoshi . Really? If satoshi came back today and asked you for a loan would you give him it? Title: Re: Who are the most trustworthy Bitcointalk users? Post by: redsn0w on November 04, 2014, 07:51:30 AM Really? If satoshi came back today and asked you for a loan would you give him it? why should he ask a loan? This is insane... Title: Re: Who are the most trustworthy Bitcointalk users? Post by: Vod on November 04, 2014, 07:55:02 AM Really? If satoshi came back today and asked you for a loan would you give him it? why should he ask a loan? This is insane... Yeah, I tried many times going up to women in bars and telling them I was god and they needed to have sex with me to populate the world. No one ever believed me. The world is populated already. Satoshi has more than enough bitcoins. :) Title: Re: Who are the most trustworthy Bitcointalk users? Post by: hilariousandco on November 04, 2014, 08:03:23 AM Really? If satoshi came back today and asked you for a loan would you give him it? why should he ask a loan? This is insane... Because he's trustworthy according to you, so why wouldn't you loan him it if he gave you a believable story? Maybe he doesn't have access to his coins anymore or is in legal trouble or in danger etc. Title: Re: Who are the most trustworthy Bitcointalk users? Post by: Vod on November 04, 2014, 08:05:21 AM Really? If satoshi came back today and asked you for a loan would you give him it? why should he ask a loan? This is insane... Because he's trustworthy according to you, so why wouldn't you loan him it if he gave you a believable story? Maybe he doesn't have access to his coins anymore or is in legal trouble or in danger etc. To me that would be an instant DISTRUST flag. He had it all - what happened? Need more information. Maybe if I met him in person? Goes without saying, if I ever ask for a loan, throw away all the trust you have for me, for something has happened that may make me less trustworthy. Title: Re: Who are the most trustworthy Bitcointalk users? Post by: redsn0w on November 04, 2014, 08:12:51 AM Really? If satoshi came back today and asked you for a loan would you give him it? why should he ask a loan? This is insane... Because he's trustworthy according to you, so why wouldn't you loan him it if he gave you a believable story? Maybe he doesn't have access to his coins anymore or is in legal trouble or in danger etc. Trustworthy doesn't mean : give him a loan. I think satoshi is the most trustworthy user here in the forum , because without him bitcoin would never have existed. Can I ask you : What is for you the most trustworthy user here in the forum ? Title: Re: Who are the most trustworthy Bitcointalk users? Post by: hilariousandco on November 04, 2014, 08:26:38 AM Really? If satoshi came back today and asked you for a loan would you give him it? why should he ask a loan? This is insane... Because he's trustworthy according to you, so why wouldn't you loan him it if he gave you a believable story? Maybe he doesn't have access to his coins anymore or is in legal trouble or in danger etc. Trustworthy doesn't mean : give him a loan. I think satoshi is the most trustworthy user here in the forum , because without him bitcoin would never have existed. Can I ask you : What is for you the most trustworthy user here in the forum ? So he's the most trustworthy user, yet you wouldn't trust him? Your logic doesn't make sense. In what capacity do you trust him and why is he trustworthy? Satoshi is just a name; a name of someone who has been Mia for years. Satoshi could be one of many people so how do you know there isn't a trustworthy member among them? Title: Re: Who are the most trustworthy Bitcointalk users? Post by: redsn0w on November 04, 2014, 08:28:45 AM Really? If satoshi came back today and asked you for a loan would you give him it? why should he ask a loan? This is insane... Because he's trustworthy according to you, so why wouldn't you loan him it if he gave you a believable story? Maybe he doesn't have access to his coins anymore or is in legal trouble or in danger etc. Trustworthy doesn't mean : give him a loan. I think satoshi is the most trustworthy user here in the forum , because without him bitcoin would never have existed. Can I ask you : What is for you the most trustworthy user here in the forum ? So he's the most trustworthy user, yet you wouldn't trust him? Your logic doesn't make sense. In what capacity do you trust him and why is he trustworthy? Satoshi is just a name; a name of someone who has been Mia for years. Satoshi could be one of many people so how do you know there isn't a trustworthy member among them? I trust him , but : why should he ask a loan? This is insane... I told you this request is insane , you can trust a person without spend 1 cent ;). Ps: the thread question is : "Who are the most trustworthy Bitcointalk users?" Title: Re: Who are the most trustworthy Bitcointalk users? Post by: deadley on November 04, 2014, 09:32:04 AM I heard so much about John K.
And he is really very trusted here and what I heard he did managed 10k BTC escrow. So there is no doubt about John K. Title: Re: Who are the most trustworthy Bitcointalk users? Post by: Puppet on November 04, 2014, 10:02:03 AM Most of the people who were once most trusted here turned scammers later. Pirate, Hashking, Patrick Harnett,... im not even sure about John K, he's gone missing a few times and hasnt posted since April.
So to me its clear, there is only one person that I trust on this forum, and thats ME. Title: Re: Who are the most trustworthy Bitcointalk users? Post by: TurbulenceIsExpected on November 04, 2014, 10:05:09 AM Most of the people who were once most trusted here turned scammers later. Pirate, Hashking, Patrick Harnett,... im not even sure about John K, he's gone missing a few times and hasnt posted since April. So to me its clear, there is only one person that I trust on this forum, and thats ME. I've been a lurker for a long time now & FINALLY decided to sign up and I think I remember reading that John K was holding peoples money in escrow? Have I got the wrong guy? Title: Re: Who are the most trustworthy Bitcointalk users? Post by: Puppet on November 04, 2014, 10:09:06 AM I know he's gone missing a few times only to return (much) later to release escrows.
I dont know if he ended up running away with any, but Id assume he didnt. At least not that I know off. Point remains though. Title: Re: Who are the most trustworthy Bitcointalk users? Post by: hilariousandco on November 04, 2014, 10:40:41 AM Really? If satoshi came back today and asked you for a loan would you give him it? why should he ask a loan? This is insane... Because he's trustworthy according to you, so why wouldn't you loan him it if he gave you a believable story? Maybe he doesn't have access to his coins anymore or is in legal trouble or in danger etc. Trustworthy doesn't mean : give him a loan. I think satoshi is the most trustworthy user here in the forum , because without him bitcoin would never have existed. Can I ask you : What is for you the most trustworthy user here in the forum ? So he's the most trustworthy user, yet you wouldn't trust him? Your logic doesn't make sense. In what capacity do you trust him and why is he trustworthy? Satoshi is just a name; a name of someone who has been Mia for years. Satoshi could be one of many people so how do you know there isn't a trustworthy member among them? I trust him , but : why should he ask a loan? This is insane... I told you this request is insane , you can trust a person without spend 1 cent ;). Ps: the thread question is : "Who are the most trustworthy Bitcointalk users?" Trust him with what though? Thin air? In what capacity is the name satoshi trustable currently? It seems like you wouldn't trust him at all. And I'm aware of what the thread is called, but he's not really a bitcointalk user currently, so what would you trust him with? Money? Your identity? Your life? The only thing that would be insane here is trusting 'satoshi', but you haven't clarified in what capacity you would in fact trust him or why he is the most trustworthy here. Title: Re: Who are the most trustworthy Bitcointalk users? Post by: Raize on November 04, 2014, 06:14:36 PM I know he's gone missing a few times only to return (much) later to release escrows. I dont know if he ended up running away with any, but Id assume he didnt. At least not that I know off. Point remains though. You're right. Even though I mention John K, his absence was a bit longer than it should have been. I guess I assumed it went without saying that I take Reagan's adage (itself a Russian proverb) to heart, "Trust, but verify." (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trust,_but_verify) I would definitely want John to prove to me he's the same John that I've done deals with in the past, therefore I'd ask him something only he knows regarding those details given his absence. Unsolicited transactions should especially follow "Trust, but verify." Title: Re: Who are the most trustworthy Bitcointalk users? Post by: moko666 on November 05, 2014, 11:34:47 AM tomatocage and escrow.ms
trusted guys on this community there are many there but IMO there are at top Title: Re: Who are the most trustworthy Bitcointalk users? Post by: Kajjaj on November 05, 2014, 11:43:02 AM Dooglus.
He didn't run away with 40 million $ when running JD. Title: Re: Who are the most trustworthy Bitcointalk users? Post by: Nextgen on November 05, 2014, 11:45:32 AM theymos and badbear
the most trustworthy guys on this forum then anyone else Title: Re: Who are the most trustworthy Bitcointalk users? Post by: IamNotSure on November 05, 2014, 11:45:56 AM Me
But I can't prove it Title: Re: Who are the most trustworthy Bitcointalk users? Post by: terrapinflyer on November 06, 2014, 01:29:48 AM Trust No One! ;D
(except me) Title: Re: Who are the most trustworthy Bitcointalk users? Post by: hilariousandco-rapped on November 06, 2014, 03:21:03 AM I think the most trust users in the forum is : satoshi . I am flattered, thank youWhy am I not on default trust??? Title: Re: Who are the most trustworthy Bitcointalk users? Post by: MadZ on November 06, 2014, 07:00:46 AM Really? If satoshi came back today and asked you for a loan would you give him it? why should he ask a loan? This is insane... Because he's trustworthy according to you, so why wouldn't you loan him it if he gave you a believable story? Maybe he doesn't have access to his coins anymore or is in legal trouble or in danger etc. To me that would be an instant DISTRUST flag. He had it all - what happened? Need more information. Maybe if I met him in person? Goes without saying, if I ever ask for a loan, throw away all the trust you have for me, for something has happened that may make me less trustworthy. Even if you have 120% stable altcoin collateral that you're willing to send to a third party trusted escrow? :P Title: Re: Who are the most trustworthy Bitcointalk users? Post by: lyth0s on November 06, 2014, 07:10:17 AM Probably Lyth0s. The moral code is strong with that one.
Title: Re: Who are the most trustworthy Bitcointalk users? Post by: John (John K.) on November 06, 2014, 10:38:54 PM Code: -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Title: Re: Who are the most trustworthy Bitcointalk users? Post by: John (John K.) on November 06, 2014, 10:40:21 PM And yes, the general rule of thumb is to not trust anyone at all. This is what makes Bitcoin go around as we are not obligated to trust anyone, and any entity at all.
Title: Re: Who are the most trustworthy Bitcointalk users? Post by: galdur on November 06, 2014, 10:44:03 PM It´s best to trust nobody
except google of course Google Deploys BTM at London HQ with Unique Features http://cointelegraph.com/news/112866/google-deploys-btm-at-london-hq-with-unique-features Title: Re: Who are the most trustworthy Bitcointalk users? Post by: hilariousandco-rapped on November 07, 2014, 03:23:32 AM And yes, the general rule of thumb is to not trust anyone at all. This is what makes Bitcoin go around as we are not obligated to trust anyone, and any entity at all. This is the premise that I designed Bitcoin on. I did not want anyone needing to trust any central authority when dealing with their peer-to-peer transactionsTitle: Re: Who are the most trustworthy Bitcointalk users? Post by: kingscrown on November 07, 2014, 03:41:02 AM the ones with most green feedback ;)
Title: Re: Who are the most trustworthy Bitcointalk users? Post by: silvestar on November 07, 2014, 07:17:25 AM the ones with most green feedback ;) Those having the most green feedback are those having done the most transactions without problems. They don't necessarily have been trusted with a lot of bitcoin in the past. :) Title: Re: Who are the most trustworthy Bitcointalk users? Post by: bitpop on November 08, 2014, 03:56:41 AM I am
Title: Re: Who are the most trustworthy Bitcointalk users? Post by: b!z on November 08, 2014, 04:20:48 AM I am ;) It´s best to trust nobody except google of course Google Deploys BTM at London HQ with Unique Features http://cointelegraph.com/news/112866/google-deploys-btm-at-london-hq-with-unique-features http://www.digitaltrends.com/computing/avoid-dropbox-facebook-google-warns-snowden/ Title: Re: Who are the most trustworthy Bitcointalk users? Post by: dooglus on November 08, 2014, 07:05:38 AM Most of the people who were once most trusted here turned scammers later. Pirate, Hashking, Patrick Harnett,... Well, pirate was obviously running a Ponzi scheme from the start, and the other two were pretty much just unwittingly running pirate pass-throughs (you lend coins to Hashking, he lends them to some other fool, who in turn gives them to pirate). Dooglus. He didn't run away with 40 million $ when running JD. Thanks. :) By the way, I think it touched $60 million in value at one point. I can't believe people trusted me with so many coins - it's kind of crazy when you think about it. Title: Re: Who are the most trustworthy Bitcointalk users? Post by: galdur on November 08, 2014, 08:38:47 AM Send me your Btc and ill send you 10x back. Thats how
trustworthy I am Good luck, g Title: Re: Who are the most trustworthy Bitcointalk users? Post by: Puppet on November 08, 2014, 08:39:37 AM Well, pirate was obviously running a Ponzi scheme from the start, and the other two were pretty much just unwittingly running pirate pass-throughs (you lend coins to Hashking, he lends them to some other fool, who in turn gives them to pirate). Not only that. HK's ponzi deposits wheres supposedly 'insured' when in reality that insurance was also invested in that same ponzi, and patrick harnett ran his own ponzi trying to recover his pirate debts. Title: Re: Who are the most trustworthy Bitcointalk users? Post by: deepestfear on November 08, 2014, 03:16:02 PM Look for Hero+ members who joined 2012 or earlier. Most of the scammers and douchebags came later.
Title: Re: Who are the most trustworthy Bitcointalk users? Post by: Flashman on November 08, 2014, 03:31:39 PM That is also not infallible.
Although you should mistrust recent accounts more, you should not necessarily assume that an older account isn't a scammer, or has not been sold to or hijacked by a scammer. For myself, I think you could trust me about as much as Malcolm Reynolds, Captain of the Firefly class ship Serenity. In other words, if somehow I'm holding your BTC and discover you robbed widows and orphans, the widows and orphans are getting it. Title: Re: Who are the most trustworthy Bitcointalk users? Post by: DogeCoCanine on November 09, 2014, 02:32:22 AM Dooglus.
End of List. Title: Re: Who are the most trustworthy Bitcointalk users? Post by: Peter882 on November 09, 2014, 04:15:51 PM Theymos is being trusted by the most users, with John K just after him at the 2nd spot. :)
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=328849.msg9457267#msg9457267 Title: Re: Who are the most trustworthy Bitcointalk users? Post by: Bitcoins101 on November 09, 2014, 04:43:04 PM tomatocage, haploid, dannyhamilton, loureed. I wouldn't trust LouReed more than any general reputable member, personally. He does a lot of trades on here, but what else has he done to earn trust? The dollar figures on all his trades are pretty moderate. Not that he has done anything wrong, but would you feel comfortable sending him 1,000 bitcoins? (If you had 1,000 bitcoins.) Or 100 bitcoins? 50 bitcoins? I personally wouldn't feel comfortable with any of those.I'd trust dooglus with any amount and most of the guys mentioned in this thread for 4 or potentially 5 digits. Once you get above that, I have to think some people are just going to decide to just cash out. Title: Re: Who are the most trustworthy Bitcointalk users? Post by: CrackedLogic on November 09, 2014, 04:57:29 PM -snip- How can u trust someone whom u have neither seen in real life nor have personal identification details ? Is not it normal, that someone to be trusted, he/she should declare his/her real identity ? If I declare to you now, that I am: Sandra L. Ward Camiño Real, 73 48380 Aulesti how does that make me trustworthy? Personal identification for trust is not what u declare randomly on the forum. You need to submit a clear image of yours holding your passport/driving license etc. and a code written on paper that would be pre-submitted to the forum. You'll find something like this partially on How? Get Verified of http://www.reddit.com/r/GirlsGoneBitcoin. What can you do with the ID though? Nothing. Except some people could pretend to be you thats a downside to providing your id otherwise your just going to know their name & address but that isn't going to help getting back what ever you lose to them. Knowing the real name and address definitely helps a lot in getting back the stolen things. In general people dont tend to scam with their real identity. GLBST, BFL? No, Karpeles is the most trustworthy. Title: Re: Who are the most trustworthy Bitcointalk users? Post by: dooglus on November 09, 2014, 05:43:26 PM I'd trust dooglus with any amount and most of the guys mentioned in this thread for 4 or potentially 5 digits. 4 or 5 digits of BTC or USD? I once forgot a laptop with 5 digits of other people's BTC in a hotel room bedside table, and only remembered it a couple of hours after checking out and driving away. I called them and they couriered it back to me (though of course it was encrypted, backed up, and all that good stuff). Title: Re: Who are the most trustworthy Bitcointalk users? Post by: gweedo on November 09, 2014, 05:55:10 PM Look for Hero+ members who joined 2012 or earlier. Most of the scammers and douchebags came later. Reporting in But don't trust me unless you think you want to trust and understand the risk. Title: Re: Who are the most trustworthy Bitcointalk users? Post by: RobertDJ on November 09, 2014, 06:15:27 PM I'd trust dooglus with any amount and most of the guys mentioned in this thread for 4 or potentially 5 digits. 4 or 5 digits of BTC or USD? I once forgot a laptop with 5 digits of other people's BTC in a hotel room bedside table, and only remembered it a couple of hours after checking out and driving away. I called them and they couriered it back to me (though of course it was encrypted, backed up, and all that good stuff). Title: Re: Who are the most trustworthy Bitcointalk users? Post by: dooglus on November 09, 2014, 07:36:05 PM Many people are saying that dooglus is one of the most trusted members on here, and here he is trying to look untrustowrthy I guess my point is that accidents happen... It was around then that I realised I didn't want to be holding 38000 BTC of other people's money. The responsibility weighs pretty heavy. Title: Re: Who are the most trustworthy Bitcointalk users? Post by: CodingCentre on November 09, 2014, 10:04:15 PM Many people are saying that dooglus is one of the most trusted members on here, and here he is trying to look untrustowrthy I guess my point is that accidents happen... It was around then that I realised I didn't want to be holding 38000 BTC of other people's money. The responsibility weighs pretty heavy. This is why I would think you are trustworthy coz you don't want to handle that amount just in case you mess up and cause people to lose money. Title: Re: Who are the most trustworthy Bitcointalk users? Post by: chaosknight on November 10, 2014, 05:46:30 AM tomatocage and escrow.ms
Title: Re: Who are the most trustworthy Bitcointalk users? Post by: 2dogs on November 11, 2014, 09:36:23 AM I know he's gone missing a few times only to return (much) later to release escrows. I dont know if he ended up running away with any, but Id assume he didnt. At least not that I know off. Point remains though. John has not disclosed ID on a scammer he vetted; I would not "trust" him. I agree with the others: Don't trust anyone. Title: Re: Who are the most trustworthy Bitcointalk users? Post by: Loophole on November 11, 2014, 11:24:56 AM I agree with the others: Don't trust anyone. That spirit is right, but when you engage in a deal, you either have to trust the counter-party or trust a third-party escrow. If the "trust no one" strategy is taken strictly, there will be very little trades in bitcoin. Title: Re: Who are the most trustworthy Bitcointalk users? Post by: John (John K.) on November 15, 2014, 06:23:25 PM I know he's gone missing a few times only to return (much) later to release escrows. I dont know if he ended up running away with any, but Id assume he didnt. At least not that I know off. Point remains though. John has not disclosed ID on a scammer he vetted; I would not "trust" him. I agree with the others: Don't trust anyone. PM'ed to ask about that - I might have missed the requests when I was gone. Title: Re: Who are the most trustworthy Bitcointalk users? Post by: Muhammed Zakir on November 16, 2014, 11:38:53 AM I agree with the others: Don't trust anyone. No Offense : "Don't Trust anyone" is just a false word. You always have to trust someone. ::) ~~MZ~~ Title: Re: Who are the most trustworthy Bitcointalk users? Post by: 2dogs on November 16, 2014, 08:32:51 PM I agree with the others: Don't trust anyone. No Offense : "Don't Trust anyone" is just a false word. You always have to trust someone. ::) ~~MZ~~ Title: Re: Who are the most trustworthy Bitcointalk users? Post by: John (John K.) on November 16, 2014, 10:49:38 PM I know he's gone missing a few times only to return (much) later to release escrows. I dont know if he ended up running away with any, but Id assume he didnt. At least not that I know off. Point remains though. John has not disclosed ID on a scammer he vetted; I would not "trust" him. I agree with the others: Don't trust anyone. PM'ed to ask about that - I might have missed the requests when I was gone. And clarified - I do not hold the ID of the person meant here although I held the escrow for the person's completed group buy last year. (Collateral in the form of shares were held instead) Title: Re: Who are the most trustworthy Bitcointalk users? Post by: 1Referee on November 17, 2014, 01:00:43 AM I agree with the others: Don't trust anyone. No Offense : "Don't Trust anyone" is just a false word. You always have to trust someone. ::) ~~MZ~~ Some times people trust certain users too much. People tend to click on links from "trusted" members without thinking. Any account can get hacked and start to spread virus links. Title: Re: Who are the most trustworthy Bitcointalk users? Post by: Lethn on November 18, 2014, 04:41:11 AM I agree with the others: Don't trust anyone. That spirit is right, but when you engage in a deal, you either have to trust the counter-party or trust a third-party escrow. If the "trust no one" strategy is taken strictly, there will be very little trades in bitcoin. I actually think that's becoming a genuine problem now because users are so paranoid that they aren't going to even bother taking the risks with people who haven't even had done a successful trade even though they've been here for years ( Like me lol ) I'm not saying of course blindly throw money at them, take proper precautions with escrow services as that's the best way but not everybody out there is a scammer. It's like being afraid of going outside, if you actually take into account all the shit that can happen to you you'd get too scared to go out, but a lot of us don't even bother thinking about that and just do it anyway because otherwise we wouldn't get anything done. Quote Any account can get hacked and start to spread virus links. That very thing happened recently with Vod and he warned people about it. Title: Re: Who are the most trustworthy Bitcointalk users? Post by: gogxmagog on November 19, 2014, 03:00:23 AM I dont really need to trust anyone in here so I dont really look at it that way. I mean, I absolutely do not trust Icebreaker, but I like him and enjoy his input. I read his posts and make my decisions from there. He's quite clear about his opinions, which I like because I know where he's coming from and I can read between his biases as well as my own.
Yes, users who I like are more important than users who I trust, because I basically trust no one. There are plenty users who I do not like, but that has to do with thier netiquite and attitude, not thier trustworthiness. I do not want to put myself in a position where I am acting on the amount of trust I diegn to grant to a stranger. I suppose in many ways I already have; Ken Slaughter took me for a few BTC and Friedcat has a few more, labcoin took a couple too. But I realized these were huge risks and I went in despite this. Gambling is what it was, and I got burnt (hoping AM and Friedcat pull me through :P ) I dont think I ever trusted any of them, I just thought (foolishly) why not give it a shot and I might be pleasantly surprised. I never put out more than I could afford to lose so I'm ok. Trust never really entered into the equation. Title: Re: Who are the most trustworthy Bitcointalk users? Post by: haploid23 on November 19, 2014, 11:36:05 PM I trust Pirateat40 and Mark Karpeles. I'd send BTC to them all day, every day.
On a more serious note, trust is relative. Someone trustworthy to you may not be trustworthy to others. There's huge variance as well since there are just so many members on here, and no one has extensively dealt with everyone. tomatocage, haploid, dannyhamilton, loureed. I'm surprised to see my name mentioned 8)Title: Re: Who are the most trustworthy Bitcointalk users? Post by: monbux on November 20, 2014, 01:32:24 AM Does nobody remember TF? ???
And do not trust the staff just because of their titles, keep in mind that they are regular users that were recruited by theymos because of their helpfulness in posts, not because of their worthiness. There was a staff member that was a lier, got demoted back to a regular user... Darkwingx or something, I can't remember. Title: Re: Who are the most trustworthy Bitcointalk users? Post by: dank on November 20, 2014, 01:53:09 AM Vod & Tomatocage are by far the most trustworthy on this forum and the Bitcoin community. Trololol Title: Re: Who are the most trustworthy Bitcointalk users? Post by: EFS on November 20, 2014, 01:59:42 AM There was a staff member that was a lier, got demoted back to a regular user... Darkwingx or something, I can't remember. xDeathwing, ex-Turkish board moderator. I don't judge him, he made a silly mistake and paid for it. Title: Re: Who are the most trustworthy Bitcointalk users? Post by: devthedev on November 20, 2014, 02:00:03 AM There was a staff member that was a lier, got demoted back to a regular user... Darkwingx or something, I can't remember. xDeathwing, yeah. Title: Re: Who are the most trustworthy Bitcointalk users? Post by: Xian01 on November 20, 2014, 08:22:00 AM FWIW, for some strange reason, I think Con is the only dude I trust on here.
I can't explain why. Title: Re: Who are the most trustworthy Bitcointalk users? Post by: 🏰 TradeFortress 🏰 on November 20, 2014, 08:48:55 AM Does nobody remember TF? ??? And do not trust the staff just because of their titles, keep in mind that they are regular users that were recruited by theymos because of their helpfulness in posts, not because of their worthiness. There was a staff member that was a lier, got demoted back to a regular user... Darkwingx or something, I can't remember. xDeathwing didn't really scam anyone, some newbie posted a very suspiciously looking exe, he said something like "I'll bet you 5 BTC it's a virus". Apparently it wasn't a virus, but back then edit history wasn't saved. So the OP could have swapped out the malware exe with a non-virus exe and then tried to claim the 5 BTC. Title: Re: Who are the most trustworthy Bitcointalk users? Post by: Flashman on November 20, 2014, 12:52:10 PM FWIW, for some strange reason, I think Con is the only dude I trust on here. I can't explain why. What about that guy who gave you a 100% refund on a delayed deal, before you even had to ask, I'm sure he deserves some love :D Title: Re: Who are the most trustworthy Bitcointalk users? Post by: int03h on November 20, 2014, 02:56:00 PM FWIW, for some strange reason, I think Con is the only dude I trust on here. I can't explain why. What about that guy who gave you a 100% refund on a delayed deal, before you even had to ask, I'm sure he deserves some love :D Because swinging your dick at another dick gets positive results. Seems like someone missed an opportunity at self improvement here. Title: Re: Who are the most trustworthy Bitcointalk users? Post by: Blazed on November 20, 2014, 03:42:15 PM I trust a couple of guys I use for escrow often..
TomatoCage and OgNasty - I trust them not because of their reputation, but because I have used them many times and they have earned my trust. Title: Re: Who are the most trustworthy Bitcointalk users? Post by: Xian01 on November 20, 2014, 03:45:31 PM Because swinging your dick at another dick gets positive results. I would hope http://ia802308.us.archive.org/32/items/gov.uscourts.mowd.117531/gov.uscourts.mowd.117531.docket.html is positive results, considering what has come to light.Title: Re: Who are the most trustworthy Bitcointalk users? Post by: Salmon1989 on November 20, 2014, 05:04:04 PM Does nobody remember TF? ??? And do not trust the staff just because of their titles, keep in mind that they are regular users that were recruited by theymos because of their helpfulness in posts, not because of their worthiness. There was a staff member that was a lier, got demoted back to a regular user... Darkwingx or something, I can't remember. xDeathwing didn't really scam anyone, some newbie posted a very suspiciously looking exe, he said something like "I'll bet you 5 BTC it's a virus". Apparently it wasn't a virus, but back then edit history wasn't saved. So the OP could have swapped out the malware exe with a non-virus exe and then tried to claim the 5 BTC. You mean the bet in https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=284167.msg3041458#msg3041458? The bet was just 0.5 btc and it later became 0.05 btc. |