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Title: neoscrypt algo for ccminer and nvidia card: call for donation
Post by: djm34 on January 06, 2015, 06:13:26 PM
Hi,

I have been working over the past week on version of ccminer supporting neoscrypt algo for and I have decided to release it as a crowdfunded project.  

This means that it will be publicly available once the donation reach a certain amount. Right now this amount has been fixed at 5btc,
however I might release it before.
Now, if there isn't enough people who donates, the miner will be only given to those who have pledged.
 
Donation will have to be made to that btc address: 18UZRrybgjmR4M53Aca4Q8YBguqErZ5qaP


Current speed of the miner:
750ti: 127kh/s  150kh/s (using sgminer and public kernel would give you 30~40/khs, so it is 3.5x faster)
780ti: 212kh/s  300kh/s
980:   427kh/s  630kh/s

This is still a work in progress, so the hashrate will most likely increases in a near future (and it is already a lot faster than last week)

http://img4.hostingpics.net/pics/517266neoscryptnew.jpg


Title: Re: neoscrypt algo for ccminer and nvidia card: call for donation
Post by: tbearhere on January 07, 2015, 02:20:50 PM
Looking good on those hash rates djm.  :)


Title: Re: neoscrypt algo for ccminer and nvidia card: call for donation
Post by: djm34 on January 07, 2015, 02:43:53 PM
some new speed (actually benefit mostly to 52):

gtx 980: 487kh/s (+55 kh/s compared to yesterday)  ;D


Title: Re: neoscrypt algo for ccminer and nvidia card: call for donation
Post by: bensam123 on January 07, 2015, 03:07:29 PM
So what's to stop you from releasing a shitty version of your miner to the public and a 'optimized' version to clients who want more speed and are willing to pay for it? How do we know there isn't already a tier system like this in place?


Title: Re: neoscrypt algo for ccminer and nvidia card: call for donation
Post by: tbearhere on January 07, 2015, 03:53:49 PM
So what's to stop you from releasing a shitty version of your miner to the public and a 'optimized' version to clients who want more speed and are willing to pay for it? How do we know there isn't already a tier system like this in place?
I'll answer that.
Because nobody contributes to the public release.


Title: Re: neoscrypt algo for ccminer and nvidia card: call for donation
Post by: mm5aes on January 07, 2015, 03:56:08 PM
Was the original ccminer not released under 'GNU Public License'?
To charge for it would break this.


Title: Re: neoscrypt algo for ccminer and nvidia card: call for donation
Post by: djm34 on January 07, 2015, 03:57:43 PM
So what's to stop you from releasing a shitty version of your miner to the public and a 'optimized' version to clients who want more speed and are willing to pay for it? How do we know there isn't already a tier system like this in place?
Shitty 480kh/s ? isn't that shitty, and considering that with the opencl you'll probably get 100kh/s for the same hardware...
I don't know any tier, but if any want to buy they can contact me.  ;D

As I said, it will be made public, if the public donate. If just a bunch donate only those who donate will receive it...
(after it will be up to them to kill their advantage for free  ;D)



Title: Re: neoscrypt algo for ccminer and nvidia card: call for donation
Post by: djm34 on January 07, 2015, 04:00:27 PM
Was the original ccminer not released under 'GNU Public License'?
To charge for it would break this.

That's why I am asking for donation for making it public...
also no, there is nothing against, the only thing required by the licence is to release the source when this is made public.
right now you have nothing, is there a law which force to release anything I make ? well no.



Title: Re: neoscrypt algo for ccminer and nvidia card: call for donation
Post by: mm5aes on January 07, 2015, 04:03:33 PM
Was the original ccminer not released under 'GNU Public License'?
To charge for it would break this.

That's why I am asking for donation... I am not charging anyone (also no, there is nothing against, the only thing which require the licence is to release the source)
right now you have nothing, is there a law which force to release anything I make ? well no.

No, but you're not allowed to use any part of the previous code and charge for it. I think that still holds under revision 3?


Title: Re: neoscrypt algo for ccminer and nvidia card: call for donation
Post by: djm34 on January 07, 2015, 04:10:12 PM
Was the original ccminer not released under 'GNU Public License'?
To charge for it would break this.

That's why I am asking for donation... I am not charging anyone (also no, there is nothing against, the only thing which require the licence is to release the source)
right now you have nothing, is there a law which force to release anything I make ? well no.

No, but you're not allowed to use any part of the previous code and charge for it. I think that still holds under revision 3?

I am not charging anyone, I am asking for donation for making it public.

(you should understand that as an engineer, everything piece of code you use have various origines, but you are still getting paid to organise them into something meaninful... you are not paid less if part of the code is GPL or not...)




Title: Re: neoscrypt algo for ccminer and nvidia card: call for donation
Post by: mm5aes on January 07, 2015, 04:13:05 PM
Was the original ccminer not released under 'GNU Public License'?
To charge for it would break this.

That's why I am asking for donation... I am not charging anyone (also no, there is nothing against, the only thing which require the licence is to release the source)
right now you have nothing, is there a law which force to release anything I make ? well no.

No, but you're not allowed to use any part of the previous code and charge for it. I think that still holds under revision 3?

I am not charging anyone, I am asking for donation.
Meh - moot but hey, would only take an e-mail to original developer for an ok is all I'm saying..  ;)


Title: Re: neoscrypt algo for ccminer and nvidia card: call for donation
Post by: Epsylon3 on January 07, 2015, 04:18:41 PM
Quote
When we speak of free software, we are referring to freedom, not price. Our General Public Licenses are designed to make sure that you have the freedom to distribute copies of free software (and charge for them if you wish), that you receive source code or can get it if you want it, that you can change the software or use pieces of it in new free programs, and that you know you can do these things.

He has rights to sell it, but not to sell it without sources


Title: Re: neoscrypt algo for ccminer and nvidia card: call for donation
Post by: Bombadil on January 07, 2015, 04:21:50 PM
Was the original ccminer not released under 'GNU Public License'?
To charge for it would break this.

That's why I am asking for donation... I am not charging anyone (also no, there is nothing against, the only thing which require the licence is to release the source)
right now you have nothing, is there a law which force to release anything I make ? well no.

No, but you're not allowed to use any part of the previous code and charge for it. I think that still holds under revision 3?

I am not charging anyone, I am asking for donation.
Meh - moot but hey, would only take an e-mail to original developer for an ok is all I'm saying..  ;)

I don't think cbuchner will care ^^"
This isn't "fee-ware", so I don't think it violates the GPL in thought and spirit. It's a crowdfunding project, he gets "paid/donated" for the work he's doing, not for the result :p

Anyways, I'll send you some BTC djm34 ;) (If my btc-qt ever syncs up...) Wish I could give you more, but I've only got 2x 750ti's and profits aren't really reeling in these days. Anyways, have a good beer (or wine or mead or whatever) :D


Title: Re: neoscrypt algo for ccminer and nvidia card: call for donation
Post by: antonio8 on January 07, 2015, 04:24:39 PM
I have no problem with the crowd funding.

Think about this. With out this the Neoscrypt is left to only AMD.

Sure there is the open cl AMD miner that works for Nvidia cards but it is not optimized at all and not worth using.


Title: Re: neoscrypt algo for ccminer and nvidia card: call for donation
Post by: djm34 on January 07, 2015, 04:50:38 PM
Was the original ccminer not released under 'GNU Public License'?
To charge for it would break this.

That's why I am asking for donation... I am not charging anyone (also no, there is nothing against, the only thing which require the licence is to release the source)
right now you have nothing, is there a law which force to release anything I make ? well no.

No, but you're not allowed to use any part of the previous code and charge for it. I think that still holds under revision 3?

I am not charging anyone, I am asking for donation.
Meh - moot but hey, would only take an e-mail to original developer for an ok is all I'm saying..  ;)

I don't think cbuchner will care ^^"
This isn't "fee-ware", so I don't think it violates the GPL in thought and spirit. It's a crowdfunding project, he gets "paid/donated" for the work he's doing, not for the result :p

Anyways, I'll send you some BTC djm34 ;) (If my btc-qt ever syncs up...) Wish I could give you more, but I've only got 2x 750ti's and profits aren't really reeling in these days. Anyways, have a good beer (or wine or mead or whatever) :D
thanks, you don't have to donate a lot. The point here, is rather to gather many small donation rather than big one from a few (however don't hesitate if you want to make a big one  ;D).
I mean, the main problem with the latest new algo, is that only a few donate while many others dump and kill the coin.
killing the profit for everyone including those who developed the miner and those who donate.
I believe if they have to give a little something they will think twice before dumping...


Title: Re: neoscrypt algo for ccminer and nvidia card: call for donation
Post by: mm5aes on January 07, 2015, 05:10:09 PM

I don't think cbuchner will care ^^"
This isn't "fee-ware", so I don't think it violates the GPL in thought and spirit. It's a crowdfunding project, he gets "paid/donated" for the work he's doing, not for the result :p

Anyways, I'll send you some BTC djm34 ;) (If my btc-qt ever syncs up...) Wish I could give you more, but I've only got 2x 750ti's and profits aren't really reeling in these days. Anyways, have a good beer (or wine or mead or whatever) :D

Fair enough, but what about the people that developed the code / libraries that are being re used by cbuchner?

This is a way bigger issue than this project. Big supporter of croudfunding and opensource software.
Afraid this just feels 'not right' to me. Seems to violate the principles of both. But what do I know.
Anyway, registered my reservations, good luck with it.
Hash on.




Title: Re: neoscrypt algo for ccminer and nvidia card: call for donation
Post by: crazycoin on January 07, 2015, 07:24:27 PM
I have sent 0,092BTC as a token of appreciation of good work. Keep on good working


Title: Re: neoscrypt algo for ccminer and nvidia card: call for donation
Post by: Namsbreh on January 07, 2015, 08:01:35 PM
Thanks for the effort/work.  I'll have to do some sums, see how it works out for us UK miners.


Title: Re: neoscrypt algo for ccminer and nvidia card: call for donation
Post by: Bombadil on January 07, 2015, 08:19:05 PM
Was the original ccminer not released under 'GNU Public License'?
To charge for it would break this.

That's why I am asking for donation... I am not charging anyone (also no, there is nothing against, the only thing which require the licence is to release the source)
right now you have nothing, is there a law which force to release anything I make ? well no.

No, but you're not allowed to use any part of the previous code and charge for it. I think that still holds under revision 3?

I am not charging anyone, I am asking for donation.
Meh - moot but hey, would only take an e-mail to original developer for an ok is all I'm saying..  ;)

A chatlog:
[20:57:48]   KBomba   cbuchner1: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=916336.msg10071021#msg10071021
[21:02:51]   cbuchner1   yawn/
[21:07:01]   KBomba   Haha, thought so
[21:07:12]   KBomba   May I paste that there for future reference?
[21:08:20]   cbuchner1   ++yawn

:D
Anyways, good point about the other libs, but he's not selling any mods to them. He could all unload them as dlls and release the miner without. So that's not really an issue there ;)


Title: Re: neoscrypt algo for ccminer and nvidia card: call for donation
Post by: StuffOfInterest on January 07, 2015, 09:52:06 PM
Just sent 0.025BTC from Miner Control (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=769239.0) (transaction (https://blockchain.info/tx/b66ff1ae9c1ea0deb755e6e0871ee3c4e2ea5f305e06324ff678fae947a7644b)).

Of note, by my calculations right now, even with 3x the performance over sgminer, NeoScrypt is still paying less than half of what some other algos are right now.  Still, prices go up and down so it may be worth it in the end.


Title: Re: neoscrypt algo for ccminer and nvidia card: call for donation
Post by: sp_ on January 08, 2015, 08:13:11 AM
Just sendt you 0.02BTC. Keep up the good work

transid:

b1bd9b5434f0af446df6c5c81fb77719a383fd7d5276a7a8c1a49c97f2447a39


Title: Re: neoscrypt algo for ccminer and nvidia card: call for donation
Post by: tbearhere on January 08, 2015, 11:31:48 AM
Date: 1/3/2015 06:40
Net amount: -0.0201 BTC
Transaction ID: 6d5fbd9187b78a4fbdc32b5ed3defdd1d80e9b42b2b6697143c53e3d25847c6c-000
Already pm you with this  djm   :)


Title: Re: neoscrypt algo for ccminer and nvidia card: call for donation
Post by: djm34 on January 08, 2015, 01:16:19 PM
Date: 1/3/2015 06:40
Net amount: -0.0201 BTC
Transaction ID: 6d5fbd9187b78a4fbdc32b5ed3defdd1d80e9b42b2b6697143c53e3d25847c6c-000
Already pm you with this  djm   :)
yes, I received it, thanks a lot to you and all the other who made (or will make) a donation :)


Title: Re: neoscrypt algo for ccminer and nvidia card: call for donation
Post by: lextad on January 08, 2015, 04:05:33 PM
Date: 1/8/2015
Net amount: 0.01 BTC
Transaction ID: c0de7b76e74b494802c5e552f5ad0a8a4d5269e32a147d33b8663c0df39c22fb

Keep the good job.


Title: Re: neoscrypt algo for ccminer and nvidia card: call for donation
Post by: PVmining on January 08, 2015, 04:43:50 PM
Net amount: 0.02 BTC
Transaction ID: 83b02262b309c5a693a12e0eccd19cb502d51477cae1e837f5735fdb6fc29b3f

I'm not into neoscrypt... but I like your dedication as always.
Good work and nice to have you here in the community.

Life is not to make ROI, life is to make people happy - so I could not miss that chance to say thank you ;)


Title: Re: neoscrypt algo for ccminer and nvidia card: call for donation
Post by: antantti on January 08, 2015, 05:28:30 PM
BTC 0.01066666   COMPLETE: 0460d458f96fb778e469f850395a0781969d51dcf079fd7d0e6220c0c34dfe79

Thanks again!


Title: Re: neoscrypt algo for ccminer and nvidia card: call for donation
Post by: o_solo_miner on January 08, 2015, 09:40:33 PM
I got some questions about the Hardware and Software for running that.
I got Win XP 32Bit and a Geforce 8400SC.
Will  i be able to mine with your Software?



Title: Re: neoscrypt algo for ccminer and nvidia card: call for donation
Post by: Bombadil on January 08, 2015, 10:02:21 PM
I got some questions about the Hardware and Software for running that.
I got Win XP 32Bit and a Geforce 8400SC.
Will  i be able to mine with your Software?

Go get yourself a 750TI ^^" Not being mean, but my CPU will probably get more than that (maybe even just the iGPU alone :D ) but thing is, it won't work at all.
Your card is too old and isn't supported anymore, if it would be, it would be very, very weak.


Title: Re: neoscrypt algo for ccminer and nvidia card: call for donation
Post by: o_solo_miner on January 08, 2015, 10:26:20 PM
 ;D ty for the information, will look after a new card then.


Title: Re: neoscrypt algo for ccminer and nvidia card: call for donation
Post by: djm34 on January 09, 2015, 12:54:29 AM
;D ty for the information, will look after a new card then.

actually going of 9xx card would be best, this algo seems do a lot better on the 9xx


Title: Re: neoscrypt algo for ccminer and nvidia card: call for donation
Post by: Carl Sagan on January 09, 2015, 09:18:04 AM
May the stars be with you. Here is my 0.06408994 


https://blockchain.info/tx/9e112ee4732ba68908f26439f959139ea0fdac63c45d4b894710d970f7f15b18


CS


Title: Re: neoscrypt algo for ccminer and nvidia card: call for donation
Post by: Bombadil on January 09, 2015, 10:48:51 AM
May the stars be with you. Here is my 0.06408994  :-X
https://blockchain.info/tx/9e112ee4732ba68908f26439f959139ea0fdac63c45d4b894710d970f7f15b18
CS

So many bitcointalk newbies donating ^^" If this were an ICO, I would think that djm is creating loads of shills to boost the volume so others will step in too :D (j/k)


Title: Re: neoscrypt algo for ccminer and nvidia card: call for donation
Post by: djm34 on January 09, 2015, 11:09:14 AM
May the stars be with you. Here is my 0.06408994  :-X
https://blockchain.info/tx/9e112ee4732ba68908f26439f959139ea0fdac63c45d4b894710d970f7f15b18
CS

So many bitcointalk newbies donating ^^" If this were an ICO, I would think that djm is creating loads of shills to boost the volume so others will step in too :D (j/k)
;D that's an idea... (I should probably put an ad on ftc forum too...)


Title: Re: neoscrypt algo for ccminer and nvidia card: call for donation
Post by: Carl Sagan on January 09, 2015, 09:02:10 PM
May the stars be with you. Here is my 0.06408994  
https://blockchain.info/tx/9e112ee4732ba68908f26439f959139ea0fdac63c45d4b894710d970f7f15b18
CS

So many bitcointalk newbies donating ^^" If this were an ICO, I would think that djm is creating loads of shills to boost the volume so others will step in too :D (j/k)

Did you consider donating yourself? Yea, I didn't think so.                  ;D


Title: Re: neoscrypt algo for ccminer and nvidia card: call for donation
Post by: Bombadil on January 09, 2015, 09:16:26 PM
May the stars be with you. Here is my 0.06408994 
https://blockchain.info/tx/9e112ee4732ba68908f26439f959139ea0fdac63c45d4b894710d970f7f15b18
CS

So many bitcointalk newbies donating ^^" If this were an ICO, I would think that djm is creating loads of shills to boost the volume so others will step in too :D (j/k)

Did you consider donating yourself? Yea, I didn't think so.                  ;D

I've donated... https://blockchain.info/tx/560d388ce4c5200d55cfeecc6e2e8ab54e00c01eb2374319b4765bfc9300be7f
Third to donate.


Title: Re: neoscrypt algo for ccminer and nvidia card: call for donation
Post by: Carl Sagan on January 10, 2015, 05:25:45 AM
May the stars be with you. Here is my 0.06408994 
https://blockchain.info/tx/9e112ee4732ba68908f26439f959139ea0fdac63c45d4b894710d970f7f15b18
CS

So many bitcointalk newbies donating ^^" If this were an ICO, I would think that djm is creating loads of shills to boost the volume so others will step in too :D (j/k)

Did you consider donating yourself? Yea, I didn't think so.                 

I've donated... https://blockchain.info/tx/560d388ce4c5200d55cfeecc6e2e8ab54e00c01eb2374319b4765bfc9300be7f
Third to donate.
Kudos to you.


Title: Re: neoscrypt algo for ccminer and nvidia card: call for donation
Post by: go6ooo1212 on January 10, 2015, 02:46:40 PM
Here's my donation, keep up the good work , my friend...
Transaction ID: ba26ba1a766f54f2ff1ceb8214c1ef307f257ca06f2b2be3833974ac20bb3ed5


Title: Re: neoscrypt algo for ccminer and nvidia card: call for donation
Post by: antonio8 on January 11, 2015, 02:45:35 AM
Sent you a donation for the good fight.

Transaction ID: e803eff12e49bd117191279e74d559ca59b4968befc1c3268384a9aa28f63817


Title: Re: neoscrypt algo for ccminer and nvidia card: call for donation
Post by: chrysophylax on January 11, 2015, 08:40:17 AM
djm ...

are you against my miners hashing the donation for a period of time? ...

as you probably know - i am using sp's fork to mine various other algos but would really like to see a highly optimized neoscrypt version here ...

i would happily mine with ( 1/5 th currently ) of the farm that have been upgraded to gigbayte 750ti oc cards ... ie - all the 750ti machines ...

if you have a better idea - please pm me ...

especially if you have a current version which i can implement immediately - have it mine for 24hours and let me know what you think ...

the farm upgrade is still going - a lot more work than i originally anticipated unfortunately ...

tanx ...

#crysx


Title: Re: neoscrypt algo for ccminer and nvidia card: call for donation
Post by: djm34 on January 11, 2015, 11:41:37 AM
djm ...

are you against my miners hashing the donation for a period of time? ...

as you probably know - i am using sp's fork to mine various other algos but would really like to see a highly optimized neoscrypt version here ...

i would happily mine with ( 1/5 th currently ) of the farm that have been upgraded to gigbayte 750ti oc cards ... ie - all the 750ti machines ...

if you have a better idea - please pm me ...

especially if you have a current version which i can implement immediately - have it mine for 24hours and let me know what you think ...

the farm upgrade is still going - a lot more work than i originally anticipated unfortunately ...

tanx ...

#crysx
not sure I have understood entirely your message.
You can hash to the donation address if you want.
However, not with the neoscrypt miner, as I would prefer to not have to make exception...  
As said before the miner will be released once a certain amount of donation have been collected


Title: Re: neoscrypt algo for ccminer and nvidia card: call for donation
Post by: chrysophylax on January 11, 2015, 12:03:29 PM
djm ...

are you against my miners hashing the donation for a period of time? ...

as you probably know - i am using sp's fork to mine various other algos but would really like to see a highly optimized neoscrypt version here ...

i would happily mine with ( 1/5 th currently ) of the farm that have been upgraded to gigbayte 750ti oc cards ... ie - all the 750ti machines ...

if you have a better idea - please pm me ...

especially if you have a current version which i can implement immediately - have it mine for 24hours and let me know what you think ...

the farm upgrade is still going - a lot more work than i originally anticipated unfortunately ...

tanx ...

#crysx
not sure I have understood entirely your message.
You can hash to the donation address if you want.
However, not with the neoscrypt miner, as I would prefer to not have to make exception...  
As said before the miner will be released once a certain amount of donation have been collected

that is what i asked - yes ... so i have my answer :)

i will donate to the address ( as i normally do when donate ) and hash for you for 24hours initially ...

is there an algo and site that you have a preference for? ... i can set the miners to any one that ccminer can use ( except neoscrypt of course - hehehe ) ...

ill start mining with them as soon as i get your answer ( if im still awake of course ) ...

i understand you dont want to make any exception here - i understand ...

tanx ...

#crysx


Title: Re: neoscrypt algo for ccminer and nvidia card: call for donation
Post by: djm34 on January 11, 2015, 12:30:24 PM
djm ...

are you against my miners hashing the donation for a period of time? ...

as you probably know - i am using sp's fork to mine various other algos but would really like to see a highly optimized neoscrypt version here ...

i would happily mine with ( 1/5 th currently ) of the farm that have been upgraded to gigbayte 750ti oc cards ... ie - all the 750ti machines ...

if you have a better idea - please pm me ...

especially if you have a current version which i can implement immediately - have it mine for 24hours and let me know what you think ...

the farm upgrade is still going - a lot more work than i originally anticipated unfortunately ...

tanx ...

#crysx
not sure I have understood entirely your message.
You can hash to the donation address if you want.
However, not with the neoscrypt miner, as I would prefer to not have to make exception... 
As said before the miner will be released once a certain amount of donation have been collected

that is what i asked - yes ... so i have my answer :)

i will donate to the address ( as i normally do when donate ) and hash for you for 24hours initially ...

is there an algo and site that you have a preference for? ... i can set the miners to any one that ccminer can use ( except neoscrypt of course - hehehe ) ...

ill start mining with them as soon as i get your answer ( if im still awake of course ) ...

i understand you dont want to make any exception here - i understand ...

tanx ...

#crysx
the most profitable  ;D


Title: Re: neoscrypt algo for ccminer and nvidia card: call for donation
Post by: chrysophylax on January 11, 2015, 01:10:56 PM
djm ...

are you against my miners hashing the donation for a period of time? ...

as you probably know - i am using sp's fork to mine various other algos but would really like to see a highly optimized neoscrypt version here ...

i would happily mine with ( 1/5 th currently ) of the farm that have been upgraded to gigbayte 750ti oc cards ... ie - all the 750ti machines ...

if you have a better idea - please pm me ...

especially if you have a current version which i can implement immediately - have it mine for 24hours and let me know what you think ...

the farm upgrade is still going - a lot more work than i originally anticipated unfortunately ...

tanx ...

#crysx
not sure I have understood entirely your message.
You can hash to the donation address if you want.
However, not with the neoscrypt miner, as I would prefer to not have to make exception...  
As said before the miner will be released once a certain amount of donation have been collected

that is what i asked - yes ... so i have my answer :)

i will donate to the address ( as i normally do when donate ) and hash for you for 24hours initially ...

is there an algo and site that you have a preference for? ... i can set the miners to any one that ccminer can use ( except neoscrypt of course - hehehe ) ...

ill start mining with them as soon as i get your answer ( if im still awake of course ) ...

i understand you dont want to make any exception here - i understand ...

tanx ...

#crysx
the most profitable  ;D

o - you mean neoscrypt ... kool ... ;)

quark it is then ... on yaamp ...

setting it up now - will let it mine for 24hours ... hope it pulls at least a few beers for you ... hehehe ...

#crysx


Title: Re: neoscrypt algo for ccminer and nvidia card: call for donation
Post by: cico76 on January 11, 2015, 02:00:14 PM
Hello !

Donated 0.06 BTC transaction id 1ac3c04d52927309e295029872a743b833c6b5f64bdec76cb2df7399bdaf8592

Good work!




Title: Re: neoscrypt algo for ccminer and nvidia card: call for donation
Post by: djm34 on January 11, 2015, 10:01:16 PM
Hello !

Donated 0.06 BTC transaction id 1ac3c04d52927309e295029872a743b833c6b5f64bdec76cb2df7399bdaf8592

Good work!




Thanks a lot.

Just a reminder, as I am being literally harassed by Carl Sagan through pm (the noobie account... not the dead hysicist, otherwise I would have said haunted  ;D).
The miner will be released after enough time has been given for the pledge to succeed...
Expect at least a couple of weeks before I deliver anything...


Title: Re: neoscrypt algo for ccminer and nvidia card: call for donation
Post by: Carl Sagan on January 12, 2015, 12:14:36 AM
Hello !

Donated 0.06 BTC transaction id 1ac3c04d52927309e295029872a743b833c6b5f64bdec76cb2df7399bdaf8592

Good work!




Thanks a lot.

Just a reminder, as I am being literally harassed by Carl Sagan through pm (the noobie account... not the dead hysicist, otherwise I would have said haunted  ;D).
The miner will be released after enough time has been given for the pledge to succeed...
Expect at least a couple of weeks before I deliver anything...


Dude,

I asked you for my money back.

I made it pretty clear that I don't want your miner anymore. Don't you understand English?
I want my money back. Understood? I hope so.

P.S.

Ppl, do not donate, he is a scam. You will never see any miner from him.

Quote:

"Expect at least a couple of weeks before I deliver anything... ". How typical bullshit to buy time.


Title: Re: neoscrypt algo for ccminer and nvidia card: call for donation
Post by: chrysophylax on January 12, 2015, 12:22:59 AM
Hello !

Donated 0.06 BTC transaction id 1ac3c04d52927309e295029872a743b833c6b5f64bdec76cb2df7399bdaf8592

Good work!




Thanks a lot.

Just a reminder, as I am being literally harassed by Carl Sagan through pm (the noobie account... not the dead hysicist, otherwise I would have said haunted  ;D).
The miner will be released after enough time has been given for the pledge to succeed...
Expect at least a couple of weeks before I deliver anything...


Dude,

I asked you for my money back.

I made it pretty clear that I don't want your miner anymore. Don't you understand English?
I want my money back. Understood? I hope so.


hang on - did i see that right? ...

YOU 'donated' to the development of neoscrypt for ccminer ... DONATED ...

now you want HIS money back? ...

its just like asking for my mining back for the 'donated' mining im am pledging at the moment ...

carl - that doesnt make sense ...

mind you - if you had BOUGHT the miner - thats understandable ... but to 'donate' and then ask for it back? ...

english is my forte - even though im too lazy to grammatically correct myself here - but if you donate ( or give away ) YOUR money - that makes it HIS money ...

have i missed something here? or when you donate to a charity ( not to say djm is a charity - but same difference ) and then dont like them for whatever reason - ask for your donation back? ...

doesnt work that way in my book - but if djm is willing to - that is up to djm - NOT to try and force it out of him ...

anyway - hope the optimization is going well ... my miners are still mining for you until 1200 midnight tonight ( adelaide australia time ) for my DONATION that i wont get back! ... :)

tanx ...

#crysx


Title: Re: neoscrypt algo for ccminer and nvidia card: call for donation
Post by: Carl Sagan on January 12, 2015, 12:33:09 AM
Hey genius,

Quote:
"Now, if there isn't enough people who donates, the miner will be only given to those who have pledged. "

I did pledge. Nothing was given. Period.


Title: Re: neoscrypt algo for ccminer and nvidia card: call for donation
Post by: chrysophylax on January 12, 2015, 12:48:29 AM
Hey genius,

Quote:
"Now, if there isn't enough people who donates, the miner will be only given to those who have pledged. "

I did pledge. Nothing was given. Period.

genius - why tanx :) ... hehehe ...

the PLEDGE is just that ... a pledge ... what djm does with HIS work and HIS money is HIS decision ...

these devs spend a great deal of time to do the work that they do carl ... optimizations and development take a lot of time and effort ...

if you have issues with it - leave the project - and pick up the miner when it gets to the public arena ...

you make it out as if you BOUGHT something here ... you didnt! ...

pledge - donation ... you know - all those words ...

even if djm gives 'his work' ( not so much the miner itself as its all open source anyway ) to ONE person - who is to say that person wont give it to another or another ... or make it publicly available - like one of wolf's binaries ... its unfair and i understand that he is protecting at least 'some' time for his work ...

its a small amount of money to be donating to a dev that actually HAS already contributed to the development prior to all this ...

i believe that its deservant ... and if he doesnt want to hand out the miner / code / his work ... then he doesnt have to :) ...

now thats genius ...

;)

#crysx


Title: Re: neoscrypt algo for ccminer and nvidia card: call for donation
Post by: Carl Sagan on January 12, 2015, 02:23:00 AM
Hey genius,

Quote:
"Now, if there isn't enough people who donates, the miner will be only given to those who have pledged. "

I did pledge. Nothing was given. Period.

genius - why tanx :) ... hehehe ...

the PLEDGE is just that ... a pledge ... what djm does with HIS work and HIS money is HIS decision ...

these devs spend a great deal of time to do the work that they do carl ... optimizations and development take a lot of time and effort ...

if you have issues with it - leave the project - and pick up the miner when it gets to the public arena ...

you make it out as if you BOUGHT something here ... you didnt! ...

pledge - donation ... you know - all those words ...

even if djm gives 'his work' ( not so much the miner itself as its all open source anyway ) to ONE person - who is to say that person wont give it to another or another ... or make it publicly available - like one of wolf's binaries ... its unfair and i understand that he is protecting at least 'some' time for his work ...

its a small amount of money to be donating to a dev that actually HAS already contributed to the development prior to all this ...

i believe that its deservant ... and if he doesnt want to hand out the miner / code / his work ... then he doesnt have to. Yes he does.

now thats genius ... my ass



#crysx
Quote:
"you make it out as if you BOUGHT something here ... you didnt! ..."

You are right kid. I just lost my money to the scammer.


Title: Re: neoscrypt algo for ccminer and nvidia card: call for donation
Post by: djm34 on January 12, 2015, 02:42:30 AM
Hey genius,

Quote:
"Now, if there isn't enough people who donates, the miner will be only given to those who have pledged. "

I did pledge. Nothing was given. Period.

genius - why tanx :) ... hehehe ...

the PLEDGE is just that ... a pledge ... what djm does with HIS work and HIS money is HIS decision ...

these devs spend a great deal of time to do the work that they do carl ... optimizations and development take a lot of time and effort ...

if you have issues with it - leave the project - and pick up the miner when it gets to the public arena ...

you make it out as if you BOUGHT something here ... you didnt! ...

pledge - donation ... you know - all those words ...

even if djm gives 'his work' ( not so much the miner itself as its all open source anyway ) to ONE person - who is to say that person wont give it to another or another ... or make it publicly available - like one of wolf's binaries ... its unfair and i understand that he is protecting at least 'some' time for his work ...

its a small amount of money to be donating to a dev that actually HAS already contributed to the development prior to all this ...

i believe that its deservant ... and if he doesnt want to hand out the miner / code / his work ... then he doesnt have to. Yes he does.

now thats genius ... my ass



#crysx
Quote:
"you make it out as if you BOUGHT something here ... you didnt! ..."

You are right kid. I just lost my money to the scammer.
for info, I sent him a pm to tell him that I would give him his donation back before he start trolling here (because I don't deal with moron)
that he had to just to send me his btc address, which he never sent actually.  ;D
So basically, he just bought free trolling... yeah well be my guest...


Title: Re: neoscrypt algo for ccminer and nvidia card: call for donation
Post by: antonio8 on January 12, 2015, 02:46:08 AM
Hey genius,

Quote:
"Now, if there isn't enough people who donates, the miner will be only given to those who have pledged. "

I did pledge. Nothing was given. Period.

genius - why tanx :) ... hehehe ...

the PLEDGE is just that ... a pledge ... what djm does with HIS work and HIS money is HIS decision ...

these devs spend a great deal of time to do the work that they do carl ... optimizations and development take a lot of time and effort ...

if you have issues with it - leave the project - and pick up the miner when it gets to the public arena ...

you make it out as if you BOUGHT something here ... you didnt! ...

pledge - donation ... you know - all those words ...

even if djm gives 'his work' ( not so much the miner itself as its all open source anyway ) to ONE person - who is to say that person wont give it to another or another ... or make it publicly available - like one of wolf's binaries ... its unfair and i understand that he is protecting at least 'some' time for his work ...

its a small amount of money to be donating to a dev that actually HAS already contributed to the development prior to all this ...

i believe that its deservant ... and if he doesnt want to hand out the miner / code / his work ... then he doesnt have to. Yes he does.

now thats genius ... my ass



#crysx
Quote:
"you make it out as if you BOUGHT something here ... you didnt! ..."

You are right kid. I just lost my money to the scammer.

I don't get too involved in other people's things but you have no idea what you are saying.

Without devs like djm34, us Nvidia miners would have absolutely nothing.

You possibly might be new to Nvidia mining or mining but you are so wrong on your comment.

Give him time. He will release it when he is ready to release it.


Title: Re: neoscrypt algo for ccminer and nvidia card: call for donation
Post by: Carl Sagan on January 12, 2015, 03:00:51 AM
Hey genius,

Quote:
"Now, if there isn't enough people who donates, the miner will be only given to those who have pledged. "

I did pledge. Nothing was given. Period.

genius - why tanx :) ... hehehe ...

the PLEDGE is just that ... a pledge ... what djm does with HIS work and HIS money is HIS decision ...

these devs spend a great deal of time to do the work that they do carl ... optimizations and development take a lot of time and effort ...

if you have issues with it - leave the project - and pick up the miner when it gets to the public arena ...

you make it out as if you BOUGHT something here ... you didnt! ...

pledge - donation ... you know - all those words ...

even if djm gives 'his work' ( not so much the miner itself as its all open source anyway ) to ONE person - who is to say that person wont give it to another or another ... or make it publicly available - like one of wolf's binaries ... its unfair and i understand that he is protecting at least 'some' time for his work ...

its a small amount of money to be donating to a dev that actually HAS already contributed to the development prior to all this ...

i believe that its deservant ... and if he doesnt want to hand out the miner / code / his work ... then he doesnt have to. Yes he does.

now thats genius ... my ass



#crysx
Quote:
"you make it out as if you BOUGHT something here ... you didnt! ..."

You are right kid. I just lost my money to the scammer.
for info, I sent him a pm to tell him that I would give him his donation back before he start trolling here (because I don't deal with moron)
that he had to just to send me his btc address, which he never sent actually.  ;D
So basically, he just bought free trolling... yeah well be my guest...


Here you go: 17Y4dms9eqXpyX89osnevce6D5q9BwW2ad

BTW when you receive something you get the address it was sent from.


Title: Re: neoscrypt algo for ccminer and nvidia card: call for donation
Post by: Carl Sagan on January 12, 2015, 04:14:35 AM
Hey genius,

Quote:
"Now, if there isn't enough people who donates, the miner will be only given to those who have pledged. "

I did pledge. Nothing was given. Period.

genius - why tanx :) ... hehehe ...

the PLEDGE is just that ... a pledge ... what djm does with HIS work and HIS money is HIS decision ...

these devs spend a great deal of time to do the work that they do carl ... optimizations and development take a lot of time and effort ...

if you have issues with it - leave the project - and pick up the miner when it gets to the public arena ...

you make it out as if you BOUGHT something here ... you didnt! ...

pledge - donation ... you know - all those words ...

even if djm gives 'his work' ( not so much the miner itself as its all open source anyway ) to ONE person - who is to say that person wont give it to another or another ... or make it publicly available - like one of wolf's binaries ... its unfair and i understand that he is protecting at least 'some' time for his work ...

its a small amount of money to be donating to a dev that actually HAS already contributed to the development prior to all this ...

i believe that its deservant ... and if he doesnt want to hand out the miner / code / his work ... then he doesnt have to. Yes he does.

now thats genius ... my ass



#crysx
Quote:
"you make it out as if you BOUGHT something here ... you didnt! ..."

You are right kid. I just lost my money to the scammer.

I don't get too involved in other people's things but you have no idea what you are saying.

Without devs like djm34, us Nvidia miners would have absolutely nothing.

You possibly might be new to Nvidia mining or mining but you are so wrong on your comment.

Give him time. He will release it when he is ready to release it.

Well, there is no question djm is good programmer but there are some who are better and do not charge anything like:

Quote: "Without devs like djm34, us Nvidia miners would have absolutely nothing." Not really:

http://cryptomining-blog.com/4120-updated-windows-binary-of-the-ccminer-1-5-24-git-fork-by-sp-for-maxwell/

Surprised? SP does not beg for money. And, is not obnoxious as djm34 is.


Title: Re: neoscrypt algo for ccminer and nvidia card: call for donation
Post by: chrysophylax on January 12, 2015, 04:20:52 AM
Hey genius,

Quote:
"Now, if there isn't enough people who donates, the miner will be only given to those who have pledged. "

I did pledge. Nothing was given. Period.

genius - why tanx :) ... hehehe ...

the PLEDGE is just that ... a pledge ... what djm does with HIS work and HIS money is HIS decision ...

these devs spend a great deal of time to do the work that they do carl ... optimizations and development take a lot of time and effort ...

if you have issues with it - leave the project - and pick up the miner when it gets to the public arena ...

you make it out as if you BOUGHT something here ... you didnt! ...

pledge - donation ... you know - all those words ...

even if djm gives 'his work' ( not so much the miner itself as its all open source anyway ) to ONE person - who is to say that person wont give it to another or another ... or make it publicly available - like one of wolf's binaries ... its unfair and i understand that he is protecting at least 'some' time for his work ...

its a small amount of money to be donating to a dev that actually HAS already contributed to the development prior to all this ...

i believe that its deservant ... and if he doesnt want to hand out the miner / code / his work ... then he doesnt have to. Yes he does.

now thats genius ... my ass



#crysx
Quote:
"you make it out as if you BOUGHT something here ... you didnt! ..."

You are right kid. I just lost my money to the scammer.
for info, I sent him a pm to tell him that I would give him his donation back before he start trolling here (because I don't deal with moron)
that he had to just to send me his btc address, which he never sent actually.  ;D
So basically, he just bought free trolling... yeah well be my guest...


Here you go: 17Y4dms9eqXpyX89osnevce6D5q9BwW2ad

BTW when you receive something you get the address it was sent from.

kid ... hahaha ...

looka t what your write carl - understand it immaturity and uselessness ... you are dealing with a 45 year old man that probably has more experience in this industry than you can fit in your entire lifetime ... yes - ME! ...

but nonetheless ... i agree with what has been said earlier ...

with devs like djm and wolf and sp ( to name a few ) ... people like us ( yes - this includes YOU carl ) would have nothing more than expensive cards sitting there NOT mining as well as they should ...

in my world - an unsympathetic human like you should be treated the same as you are treating all that respond to you here ...

im done answering your miniscule excuse for reasoning ... have a great one carl ...

scammed - hehehe ... thats funny ... :D

nuff sed ... :)

#crysx


Title: Re: neoscrypt algo for ccminer and nvidia card: call for donation
Post by: antonio8 on January 12, 2015, 04:47:20 AM

Well, there is no question djm is good programmer but there are some who are better and do not charge anything like:

Quote: "Without devs like djm34, us Nvidia miners would have absolutely nothing." Not really:

http://cryptomining-blog.com/4120-updated-windows-binary-of-the-ccminer-1-5-24-git-fork-by-sp-for-maxwell/

Surprised? SP does not beg for money. And, is not obnoxious as djm34 is.


Just understand that cryptomining blog is taking sp_ work. sp_ is not posting that on that site. So no I am not surprised. You can go to his official thread and get his updates instead of second hand.

And yes I understand that sp_ and others provide miners and updates without cost but I would not expect an updated Spread for free from him at the beginning.

If you want a list of devs and what they have contributed there is an official site that has all the miners that are out.

But here is the deal not all devs are currently updating miners. Can you point to an optimized miner for Neoscrypt right now? Hint, the algo is owned by AMD right now and if djm34 did not put the time in we still will not have one.


Title: Re: neoscrypt algo for ccminer and nvidia card: call for donation
Post by: Carl Sagan on January 12, 2015, 05:05:07 AM
 ;) Quote: "Can you point to an optimized miner for Neoscrypt right now? Hint, the algo is owned by AMD right now and if djm34 did not put the time in we still will not have one. "


ROFL ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D just look at that:

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=neoscrypt+fpga

OMG, thanx for good laugh  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D


Title: Re: neoscrypt algo for ccminer and nvidia card: call for donation
Post by: antonio8 on January 12, 2015, 05:10:30 AM
;) Quote: "Can you point to an optimized miner for Neoscrypt right now? Hint, the algo is owned by AMD right now and if djm34 did not put the time in we still will not have one. "


ROFL ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D just look at that:

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=neoscrypt+fpga

OMG, thanx for good laugh  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Last time I will reply to you but your link does not work and in the title I see fpga, this is not a fpga thread.

This is an Nvidia thread so maybe you did understand when I said an optimized miner, that was for Nvidia cards.


Title: Re: neoscrypt algo for ccminer and nvidia card: call for donation
Post by: djm34 on January 12, 2015, 05:13:16 AM
Hey genius,

Quote:
"Now, if there isn't enough people who donates, the miner will be only given to those who have pledged. "

I did pledge. Nothing was given. Period.

genius - why tanx :) ... hehehe ...

the PLEDGE is just that ... a pledge ... what djm does with HIS work and HIS money is HIS decision ...

these devs spend a great deal of time to do the work that they do carl ... optimizations and development take a lot of time and effort ...

if you have issues with it - leave the project - and pick up the miner when it gets to the public arena ...

you make it out as if you BOUGHT something here ... you didnt! ...

pledge - donation ... you know - all those words ...

even if djm gives 'his work' ( not so much the miner itself as its all open source anyway ) to ONE person - who is to say that person wont give it to another or another ... or make it publicly available - like one of wolf's binaries ... its unfair and i understand that he is protecting at least 'some' time for his work ...

its a small amount of money to be donating to a dev that actually HAS already contributed to the development prior to all this ...

i believe that its deservant ... and if he doesnt want to hand out the miner / code / his work ... then he doesnt have to. Yes he does.

now thats genius ... my ass



#crysx
Quote:
"you make it out as if you BOUGHT something here ... you didnt! ..."

You are right kid. I just lost my money to the scammer.

I don't get too involved in other people's things but you have no idea what you are saying.

Without devs like djm34, us Nvidia miners would have absolutely nothing.

You possibly might be new to Nvidia mining or mining but you are so wrong on your comment.

Give him time. He will release it when he is ready to release it.

Well, there is no question djm is good programmer but there are some who are better and do not charge anything like:

Quote: "Without devs like djm34, us Nvidia miners would have absolutely nothing." Not really:

http://cryptomining-blog.com/4120-updated-windows-binary-of-the-ccminer-1-5-24-git-fork-by-sp-for-maxwell/

Surprised? SP does not beg for money. And, is not obnoxious as djm34 is.

I did that for some time (you can find all my release and update on that blog too...), but at some point you realize that many don't share even a tiny bit of the profit they made using the miner we shared with them, and the donation you got from the few is worth nothing because the myriad of other miners did kill the coin in the mean time.
(happened even to vtc... )
So that's why now, I prefer to ask for a donation before rather than after, also I didn't really plan to mine the coin, so it is really for the community (and self interest in programming) but the "community" has also to express a little gratitude.

speaking of obnoxious, I can post here the messages you sent me, and we will see who is obnoxious....  ::)
(but sorry if you insult me, I will insult you back... I have clearly no patience with the kind of comment you sent me...)


Title: Re: neoscrypt algo for ccminer and nvidia card: call for donation
Post by: Carl Sagan on January 12, 2015, 05:58:13 AM
;) Quote: "Can you point to an optimized miner for Neoscrypt right now? Hint, the algo is owned by AMD right now and if djm34 did not put the time in we still will not have one. "


ROFL ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D just look at that:

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=neoscrypt+fpga

OMG, thanx for good laugh  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Last time I will reply to you but your link does not work and in the title I see fpga, this is not a fpga thread.

This is an Nvidia thread so maybe you did understand when I said an optimized miner, that was for Nvidia cards.

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=neoscrypt+fpga


You have to just copy and paste ;) or just click on it.


Title: Re: neoscrypt algo for ccminer and nvidia card: call for donation
Post by: Bombadil on January 12, 2015, 06:06:19 AM
;) Quote: "Can you point to an optimized miner for Neoscrypt right now? Hint, the algo is owned by AMD right now and if djm34 did not put the time in we still will not have one. "


ROFL ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D just look at that:

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=neoscrypt+fpga

OMG, thanx for good laugh  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Last time I will reply to you but your link does not work and in the title I see fpga, this is not a fpga thread.

This is an Nvidia thread so maybe you did understand when I said an optimized miner, that was for Nvidia cards.

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=neoscrypt+fpga


You have to just copy and paste ;) or just click on it.

Give us the link at what you're aiming, fool. Everyone's google results are personalized, and the first thing I get is this: https://github.com/ghostlander/cgminer-neoscrypt/blob/master/FPGA-README
Now, if you take that as FPGA proof for neoscrypt, you're an idiot. And a moron. And a st*p*d f*ck. (We're getting kinda used to it that you don't actually read.)
If you have another link as proof, JUST GIVE IT, newbie.

Also, djm has been an honest dev for ages. I have a lot of faith in him (if he'd only add the API :P ) and will support him wherever it's needed.If you were here since a year ago, like I am, you would've known.
You need to know your place, and it's not running around like a headless chicken, screaming about scams etc.

(/me thinks DJM is gonna open up a selfmoderated thread next time ^^" )

Btw, about sp_, I donated to that guy too, even more than I did for djm (djm has to live with the fact that my profits are lower these days :P ), and I bet I'm not the only one (https://blockchain.info/address/1CTiNJyoUmbdMRACtteRWXhGqtSETYd6Vd).
He does a great job, but works on stuff much of it has initially been done by djm (and before him, cbuchner, and before that cpuminer devs). So there's no real thumb rule in devving about who gets how many donations for what work.
The only thing we can do, is donate whenever we want to. This thread made me want to, so, well, that was that.


Title: Re: neoscrypt algo for ccminer and nvidia card: call for donation
Post by: chrysophylax on January 12, 2015, 06:11:16 AM
djm - my miners will continue mining till midnight tonight ( adelaide australia time ) ...

i can see that there a 'little' donation there and hope that will suffice ... a little at least ...

ive finished another upgrade to another machine and will compile sp's latest to see if does any justice to the hashrate again ...

about 60% of the farm has now moved to 750ti oc cards and teh rest will be done in the next week ...

this means that testing can be done on a much more grand scale ...

cant wait for the release of at least the initial ccminer optimized neoscrypt miner ...

for soem reason i have always a soft spot for feathercoin ... maybe due to it being one of the very first coins ( after litecoin ) that i mined when i first started ... :)

looking forward and onward gents and ladies ...

tanx again ...

btw - bombadil ... another awesome dev carl ... harsh - but still an awesome dev ... ;)

#crysx


Title: Re: neoscrypt algo for ccminer and nvidia card: call for donation
Post by: Carl Sagan on January 12, 2015, 06:34:27 AM
;) Quote: "Can you point to an optimized miner for Neoscrypt right now? Hint, the algo is owned by AMD right now and if djm34 did not put the time in we still will not have one. "


ROFL ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D just look at that:

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=neoscrypt+fpga

OMG, thanx for good laugh  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Last time I will reply to you but your link does not work and in the title I see fpga, this is not a fpga thread.

This is an Nvidia thread so maybe you did understand when I said an optimized miner, that was for Nvidia cards.

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=neoscrypt+fpga


You have to just copy and paste ;) or just click on it.

Give us the link at what you're aiming, fool. Everyone's google results are personalized, and the first thing I get is this: https://github.com/ghostlander/cgminer-neoscrypt/blob/master/FPGA-README
Now, if you take that as FPGA proof for neoscrypt, you're an idiot. And a moron. And a st*p*d f*ck. (We're getting kinda used to it that you don't actually read.)
If you have another link as proof, JUST GIVE IT, newbie.

Also, djm has been an honest dev for ages. I have a lot of faith in him (if he'd only add the API :P ) and will support him wherever it's needed.If you were here since a year ago, like I am, you would've known.
You need to know your place, and it's not running around like a headless chicken, screaming about scams etc.

(/me thinks DJM is gonna open up a selfmoderated thread next time ^^" )

Btw, about sp_, I donated to that guy too, even more than I did for djm (djm has to live with the fact that my profits are lower these days :P ), and I bet I'm not the only one (https://blockchain.info/address/1CTiNJyoUmbdMRACtteRWXhGqtSETYd6Vd).
He does a great job, but works on stuff much of it has initially been done by djm (and before him, cbuchner, and before that cpuminer devs). So there's no real thumb rule in devving about who gets how many donations for what work.
The only thing we can do, is donate whenever we want to. This thread made me want to, so, well, that was that.


Quote :

"Now, if you take that as FPGA proof for neoscrypt, you're an idiot. And a moron. And a st*p*d f*ck."

I just clicked ignore under your name. You must be from Oklahoma or close by. Good bye.


Title: Re: neoscrypt algo for ccminer and nvidia card: call for donation
Post by: Bombadil on January 12, 2015, 06:39:26 AM
Quote :

"Now, if you take that as FPGA proof for neoscrypt, you're an idiot. And a moron. And a st*p*d f*ck."

I just clicked ignore under your name. You must be from Oklahoma or close by. Good bye.

Ooh man, I was hoping for a debate. But since I still don't see the link I want, it's probably not worth it ^^"
Anyways, guys: <3 all, as you guys know. All my tools are made for the community, because I like it how it is. But when we've got little children like this one running amok, it makes me mad.
Sorry for being harsh, but I still mean it, even after 5min cooldown, so I think he deserves it :D

P.S.: I come from Wallifornia, dirty south from Belgium, woop woop! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aEdPOn0HmdQ Je suis le diable!
(Just Belgium is fine too ^^ )


Title: Re: neoscrypt algo for ccminer and nvidia card: call for donation
Post by: bensam123 on January 12, 2015, 06:42:05 AM
I don't think some of you understand what's happening here.

He sells this code, he improves the code, he either sells it again (which is what's happening right now) or he sells it to private investors. The reason AMD isn't currently competitive with Nvidia is because Wolf0 already did this. There are privately sold kernels floating around in the background that are much better then the publicly available ones. Nvidia wasn't as fast as AMD in the beginning, but with continued community improvements it became that way. This is the start of privatizing Nvidia kernels and turning it into whoever owns the fastest kernel. Basically what happened with ASICs all over again.

The whole reason your mining profits start to slide is because other miners are getting better kernels from Djm and Wolf in the background which makes your hardware obsolete because it can't compete without the kernel. They're making this market for themselves by obsoleting current kernels. There aren't new miners joining the market, if anything there is a steady stream of people leaving it, so profits should be rising (or income since it's relatively unprofitable).

Mining difficulty is all about taking bites of the same size pie. The only way to get ahead is with different hardware (which doesn't happen with GPU mining) or different kernels. Otherwise it's proportional across the board and based on how many GPUs you own. If everyone is using the same crappy kernels, the proportion stays the same. You're only playing catch up with other people that already bought this specific kernel in the background and encouraging them make this kernel obsolete as Wolf, Djm, or other will try and further develop this as they have funding to do so and then either start another fund drive or sell it in the background, probably both.

You're basically paying them to take you out back and shoot you unless they offer some form of continued support, which none of them do and slink away from if you ask about it (oh no one will pay for it or use my miner).


As someone who is looking to invest, do you actually plan to continually support your kernel after the release? Claymore actually had a product for mining Cryptonote, and he continued to support and still does even with the decline of Cryptnote. What promise do you give that you will continue to make this a proactive kernel that wont simply be swept under the rug by your latest build or someone elses making it unprofitable for the 'common' Nvidia miner?



Title: Re: neoscrypt algo for ccminer and nvidia card: call for donation
Post by: Bombadil on January 12, 2015, 06:46:30 AM
Again; this is not selling, this is a crowdfund. The moment the counter reaches 5BTC, djm will release all. So we all have the same software. Claymore has probably made more than this already.
I can't speak for djm, but I don't think he's gonna sell priv miners for neoscrypt.
Djm != wolf. Djm likes to sell his services, mostly to coin-devs who need a gpu miner. Wolf makes priv miners and sells them afterwards, only occasionally does something like DJM is used too.

I have no problems with this new kind of donation/payment/crowdfund, I actually like the idea. Makes people remember that nothing comes for free, but everything is voluntary. The liberal world we crypto'ers want, isn't it? I do think 5BTC is a bit too steep and the "waiting period" a bit too long, but that's up to djm, not to me.


Title: Re: neoscrypt algo for ccminer and nvidia card: call for donation
Post by: chrysophylax on January 12, 2015, 06:51:39 AM
Quote :

"Now, if you take that as FPGA proof for neoscrypt, you're an idiot. And a moron. And a st*p*d f*ck."

I just clicked ignore under your name. You must be from Oklahoma or close by. Good bye.

Ooh man, I was hoping for a debate. But since I still don't see the link I want, it's probably not worth it ^^"
Anyways, guys: <3 all, as you guys know. All my tools are made for the community, because I like it how it is. But when we've got little children like this one running amok, it makes me mad.
Sorry for being harsh, but I still mean it, even after 5min cooldown, so I think he deserves it :D

P.S.: I come from Wallifornia, dirty south from Belgium, woop woop! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aEdPOn0HmdQ Je suis le diable!
(Just Belgium is fine too ^^ )

admittedly bomba - the words used probably will get deleted anyway - but it was hash ...

however - i have watched this community for about a year now - and its only now that i start to come out of the shadows ...

djm - you - wolf - sp - and many many others ( including cbuchner and sgminer-dev and all the others that have contributed ) ... without any of your patience and perserverance - there would be no miners - no software - no need to start mining - let alone continue ...

i sympathize with carl ... ignorance is bliss to many unfortunately and with the fact that he called djm a scammer SHOWS how little he knows about the people involved here ... and how rude he can be - due to an issue between him and djm ...

you know - people should look up the word scam - and also the word scammer ... its being used WAY too much and 99% of those using it have NO IDEA what it means ...

anyway - its NO BIG DEAL ... its not gonna stop us all wanting the software and it CERTAINLY wont stop me mining or donating for damn good software ...

keep up the huge efforts guys ...

again ... cant wait for the neoscrypt ccminer ...

djm - will you and sp merge the code to one miner - eventually? ...

#crysx


Title: Re: neoscrypt algo for ccminer and nvidia card: call for donation
Post by: chrysophylax on January 12, 2015, 06:52:53 AM
Again; this is not selling, this is a crowdfund. The moment the counter reaches 5BTC, djm will release all. So we all have the same software. Claymore has probably made more than this already.
I can't speak for djm, but I don't think he's gonna sell priv miners for neoscrypt.
Djm != wolf. Djm likes to sell his services, mostly to coin-devs who need a gpu miner. Wolf makes priv miners and sells them afterwards, only occasionally does something like DJM is used too.

I have no problems with this new kind of donation/payment/crowdfund, I actually like the idea. Makes people remember that nothing comes for free, but everything is voluntary. The liberal world we crypto'ers want, isn't it? I do think 5BTC is a bit too steep and the "waiting period" a bit too long, but that's up to djm, not to me.

hear hear ... and +1 many times the btc its worth ... ;)

well said ...

#crysx


Title: Re: neoscrypt algo for ccminer and nvidia card: call for donation
Post by: chrysophylax on January 12, 2015, 06:57:22 AM
I don't think some of you understand what's happening here.

He sells this code, he improves the code, he either sells it again (which is what's happening right now) or he sells it to private investors. The reason AMD isn't currently competitive with Nvidia is because Wolf0 already did this. There are privately sold kernels floating around in the background that are much better then the publicly available ones. Nvidia wasn't as fast as AMD in the beginning, but with continued community improvements it became that way. This is the start of privatizing Nvidia kernels and turning it into whoever owns the fastest kernel. Basically what happened with ASICs all over again.

The whole reason your mining profits start to slide is because other miners are getting better kernels from Djm and Wolf in the background which makes your hardware obsolete because it can't compete without the kernel. They're making this market for themselves by obsoleting current kernels. There aren't new miners joining the market, if anything there is a steady stream of people leaving it, so profits should be rising (or income since it's relatively unprofitable).

Mining difficulty is all about taking bites of the same size pie. The only way to get ahead is with different hardware (which doesn't happen with GPU mining) or different kernels. Otherwise it's proportional across the board and based on how many GPUs you own. If everyone is using the same crappy kernels, the proportion stays the same. You're only playing catch up with other people that already bought this specific kernel in the background and encouraging them make this kernel obsolete as Wolf, Djm, or other will try and further develop this as they have funding to do so and then either start another fund drive or sell it in the background, probably both.

You're basically paying them to take you out back and shoot you unless they offer some form of continued support, which none of them do and slink away from if you ask about it (oh no one will pay for it or use my miner).


As someone who is looking to invest, do you actually plan to continually support your kernel after the release? Claymore actually had a product for mining Cryptonote, and he continued to support and still does even with the decline of Cryptnote. What promise do you give that you will continue to make this a proactive kernel that wont simply be swept under the rug by your latest build or someone elses making it unprofitable for the 'common' Nvidia miner?



and just another thing ... if the word CROWDFUND or DONATE or GIVING of your OWN FREE WILL means anything to you ... then what djm is 'doing' is nothing short of FREE WILL ...

same as what we are doing ... we have the free will to decide whether to DONATE ( check that word ) or walk away ... freedom of choice ...

when i want granitecoin recoded and redone - do you really think im going to go with the 'community' to help me do it? ... not a chance ...

the coin is FOR the community yes - but only a GOOD DEVELOPER will make the necessary changes i require for the coin ... and i will sure as hell pay for the developers services ...

FULL STOP ...

#crysx


Title: Re: neoscrypt algo for ccminer and nvidia card: call for donation
Post by: antonio8 on January 12, 2015, 07:08:07 AM
No I did not want to quote the post.

So should these devs work for free? I don't know for sure but I would guess they probably have not gotten 5 BTC in donations for supplying these miners.

Funny you should bring up Claymore. Of course he updates regularly. Wouldn't you when you get 5% (yes I know he drops the fee down eventually) of what is being mined by that miner. It is in his best interest to update. The faster miner's mine. The faster he gets income. And ask the Prime Coin miners how they felt about his updates once Monero became big. There are rumors floating in his threads that he made high 5 figures to low 6 figures for all his miners. And you know what, if he did good for him. He provided a product that people used.

And wolf. He has the ability to make a miner 20-50% or more faster. Why should he not be compensated for his time.

Same thing with these Nvidia devs. I have openly said I wished they could do the same but I guess prohibited from the license in the code. So djm34 is crowdfunding to make something available that is not available at this time. Should he do it for free?

If any of you go to work and do it for free then let me know. Better yet if something should be given for free, pm me and I will give you a BTC address and you can give me something for nothing. Because that is what is being said here.

Really though if anyone has issues then don't use the miners and make your own and this whole point is moot.


Title: Re: neoscrypt algo for ccminer and nvidia card: call for donation
Post by: bensam123 on January 12, 2015, 07:10:19 AM
Again; this is not selling, this is a crowdfund. The moment the counter reaches 5BTC, djm will release all. So we all have the same software. Claymore has probably made more than this already.
I can't speak for djm, but I don't think he's gonna sell priv miners for neoscrypt.
Djm != wolf. Djm likes to sell his services, mostly to coin-devs who need a gpu miner. Wolf makes priv miners and sells them afterwards, only occasionally does something like DJM is used too.

I have no problems with this new kind of donation/payment/crowdfund, I actually like the idea. Makes people remember that nothing comes for free, but everything is voluntary. The liberal world we crypto'ers want, isn't it? I do think 5BTC is a bit too steep and the "waiting period" a bit too long, but that's up to djm, not to me.

Yup, and what's stopping him from improving it and selling it again or making sure this doesn't become obsolete immediately? Who is to say it's not already obsolete? What version of his miner does he promise to sell? There is no agreement he can't simply sell a better version and shiv you the moment this is released. You don't even know if he's giving you the best version. This may be a shitty version of his already better miner.

That's the problem with these unprofessional and backwater deals. Nothing here is transparent, you're just giving him BTC for whatever he's willing to throw on the floor.

I don't have any problems paying for a service either. I used Claymore miner for quite awhile and I didn't mind paying the fee on it. The problem is these aren't 'services', you're basically donating and he'll give you whatever he wants. That's really the biggest problem with GPU mining right now are these trade you once, shiv you later private kernels that you may or may not even know exist. Claymore was a actual product I could look at, choose to use, and see continued improvement of.

There is no continued support or no constant effort put forth by the developer to keep this competitive with the market, other private kernels, or even his own kernels.


Once again this is not about paying devs for their time! It's about them not making a professional product and deciding to fuck you over every which way of sunday whenever they feel like it. Wolf0 said in another thread he doesn't even want to sell his kernels to people with less then 50 miners because he doesn't want to deal with them - even if they have the money. How is this remotely professional or even transparent enough that the community can even see it?

They don't want to make a thread or storefront of any shape or size because then it actually turns into a market (in addition to them having to put actual effort in). They then need to compete and actually try and of course attract other developers who will see this market and start developing as well. Competition. For how much they rant and rave about capitalism and getting paid for their work, they really don't like actually having to work and don't like the other less savy parts of capitalism, a open competitive market.


Title: Re: neoscrypt algo for ccminer and nvidia card: call for donation
Post by: chrysophylax on January 12, 2015, 07:17:15 AM
Again; this is not selling, this is a crowdfund. The moment the counter reaches 5BTC, djm will release all. So we all have the same software. Claymore has probably made more than this already.
I can't speak for djm, but I don't think he's gonna sell priv miners for neoscrypt.
Djm != wolf. Djm likes to sell his services, mostly to coin-devs who need a gpu miner. Wolf makes priv miners and sells them afterwards, only occasionally does something like DJM is used too.

I have no problems with this new kind of donation/payment/crowdfund, I actually like the idea. Makes people remember that nothing comes for free, but everything is voluntary. The liberal world we crypto'ers want, isn't it? I do think 5BTC is a bit too steep and the "waiting period" a bit too long, but that's up to djm, not to me.

Yup, and what's stopping him from improving it and selling it again or making sure this doesn't become obsolete immediately? Who is to say it's not already obsolete? What version of his miner does he promise to sell? There is no agreement he can't simply sell a better version and shiv you the moment this is released. You don't even know if he's giving you the best version. This may be a shitty version of his already better miner.

That's the problem with these unprofessional and backwater deals. Nothing here is transparent, you're just giving him BTC for whatever he's willing to throw on the floor.

I don't have any problems paying for a service either. I used Claymore miner for quite awhile and I didn't mind paying the fee on it. The problem is these aren't 'services', you're basically donating and he'll give you whatever he wants. That's really the biggest problem with GPU mining right now are these trade you once, shiv you later private kernels that you may or may not even know exist. Claymore was a actual product I could look at, choose to use, and see continued improvement of.

There is no continued support or no constant effort put forth by the developer to keep this competitive with the market, other private kernels, or even his own kernels.


Once again this is not about paying devs for their time! It's about them not making a professional product and deciding to fuck you over every which way of sunday whenever they feel like it. Wolf0 said in another thread he doesn't even want to sell his kernels to people with less then 50 miners because he doesn't want to deal with them - even if they have the money. How is this remotely professional or even transparent enough that the community can even see it?

how? because he is NOT SELLING the miner ... he is selling his HARD WORK that he put into the optimizations of the miner ... SHEESH!

and we are NOT talking about a one off dev that has his head up his backside ... this djm ... respected ... unlike some of the rabble thats here and there in these forums ...

here is an idea ... the sourcecode is FREE ... go download it and do a better job and stop hassling people ...

hmmm ... nice idea that ...

#crysx


Title: Re: neoscrypt algo for ccminer and nvidia card: call for donation
Post by: bensam123 on January 12, 2015, 07:20:38 AM
Dude, because you don't know what he's selling you. There is no proof that he's selling you the best version of his miner. There is no proof that he's not selling you a widdled down version of his miner. There is nothing saying he wont continue to improve this miner and sell it again. There is nothing saying someone else wont simply say they have a better (or him on a alt account) after this is done and ask for more money.

Read my whole post in it's entirety before you reply. I definitely didn't say he wasn't selling the kernel. I'm sure he will and would, that's not all there is to it though. I also never said I wanted anything for free and would encourage both Djm and Wolf0 to open a thread detailing their wares or a actual storefront which we could buy from - but they aren't going to do that, because then they need to compete, and then they need to continue supporting their products in addition to improving them, you also then know what's available on the market.


Title: Re: neoscrypt algo for ccminer and nvidia card: call for donation
Post by: chrysophylax on January 12, 2015, 07:26:39 AM
Dude, because you don't know what he's selling you. There is no proof that he's selling you the best version of his miner. There is no proof that he's not selling you a widdled down version of his miner. There is nothing saying he wont continue to improve this miner and sell it again. There is nothing saying someone else wont simply say they have a better (or him on a alt account) after this is done and ask for more money.

Read my whole post in it's entirety before you reply. I definitely didn't say he wasn't selling the kernel. I'm sure he will and would, that's not all there is to it though. I also never said I wanted anything for free and would encourage both Djm and Wolf0 to open a thread detailing their wares or a actual storefront which we could buy from - but they aren't going to do that, because then they need to compete, and then they need to continue supporting their products in addition to improving them, you also then know what's available on the market.

i agree ... there is NOTHING that stops him or any other doing that ...

but thats the difference between BUYING the miner and DONATING to something that YOU believe is going to be a product that you are going to use ...

i understand your point - i just dont agree with it ...

its OUR choice whether we want to DONATE or walk away ... im donating ... and if i get screwed in the process - then its MY decision and you can come back and taunt ...

until then - i am dreaming of a neoscrypt miner that is better than the neoscrypt miners i have running at the moment ... its a dream - but its MINE ... and im willing to DONATE for it ...

this means i run the risk of losing the money that i WANTED to throw away in the first place ... u know - DONATION ....

now off to build more of my farm ... i have some 750ti cards that need to get going ... and working tanx to the devs that made the mining optimizations possibly for x11 in the first place ... ;)

hehehe ...

#crysx


Title: Re: neoscrypt algo for ccminer and nvidia card: call for donation
Post by: bensam123 on January 12, 2015, 08:02:35 AM
So now you're playing semantics with the word donation and buying?

I'd say the majority of the people in this thread see 'donating' as crowd funding this product, not pissing away their money to hopes and dreams of someone who doesn't care that much about them.

Don't get me wrong, I'm all for paying for something, but I see something like this as another scam. He could very well be giving you guys a half hash rate miner and selling one that hashes twice as fast to his big clientele, which will make this miner obsolete in like a month as all the AMD miners with a inferior hashrate and power draw are pushed off the market and all you're left facing off against are the other 'big' Nvidia miners with double the hashrate of you... which you can't compete with.

Djm said he didn't want to do a miner with a fee because people would tear the code out of it. There are a lot of ways to crowd fund something. He could release this, along with a 2% miner and says when he reaches the next X donation amount (based off income from the miner), he'll release a updated version.

People can do things like a % miner and it does work, that's true crowd funding there and it's not the dick it to the small guy way of doing things Wolf0 is doing. Anyone can help participate no matter how big or small.

But people seem to think once this is released, that's where development will end and this will be a good kernel/miner till the end of time. That's not the way it works. There are no guarantees, no promises, you don't even know what he has going on in the background or what he's planning to do. Shops like LTCgear have went under and they look pretty reputable. There is no shop or storefront, just a forum thread that says 'gimmie BTC and I give you this miner at this speed kthxbai'.

You can directly compare what's happening right now with x11(and variants) to what Claymore did with his miner and see how different it is. This isn't remotely professional.


Title: Re: neoscrypt algo for ccminer and nvidia card: call for donation
Post by: sp_ on January 12, 2015, 08:37:25 AM
djm34 will opensource his work if the bounty is met. Me and Klaust and probobly others will try to optimize it further as we have done with the other algos. Lyra has been optimized 12% in the ccminer sp-mod, from the inital version. We are working hard to give you more hash, and to make the game fair. Donate some beers, and get more hash :)
.


Title: Re: neoscrypt algo for ccminer and nvidia card: call for donation
Post by: chrysophylax on January 12, 2015, 09:03:42 AM
So now you're playing semantics with the word donation and buying?

I'd say the majority of the people in this thread see 'donating' as crowd funding this product, not pissing away their money to hopes and dreams of someone who doesn't care that much about them.

Don't get me wrong, I'm all for paying for something, but I see something like this as another scam. He could very well be giving you guys a half hash rate miner and selling one that hashes twice as fast to his big clientele, which will make this miner obsolete in like a month as all the AMD miners with a inferior hashrate and power draw are pushed off the market and all you're left facing off against are the other 'big' Nvidia miners with double the hashrate of you... which you can't compete with.

Djm said he didn't want to do a miner with a fee because people would tear the code out of it. There are a lot of ways to crowd fund something. He could release this, along with a 2% miner and says when he reaches the next X donation amount (based off income from the miner), he'll release a updated version.

People can do things like a % miner and it does work, that's true crowd funding there and it's not the dick it to the small guy way of doing things Wolf0 is doing. Anyone can help participate no matter how big or small.

But people seem to think once this is released, that's where development will end and this will be a good kernel/miner till the end of time. That's not the way it works. There are no guarantees, no promises, you don't even know what he has going on in the background or what he's planning to do. Shops like LTCgear have went under and they look pretty reputable. There is no shop or storefront, just a forum thread that says 'gimmie BTC and I give you this miner at this speed kthxbai'.

You can directly compare what's happening right now with x11(and variants) to what Claymore did with his miner and see how different it is. This isn't remotely professional.

agreed - this is not remotely professional at all ...

that is not the issue - the issue is - who cares? ...

obviously you do - and i appreciate that you seem to be one of the ones that want to 'look out' for the community at large ...

but guess what? ... its an individual thing ... coz i dont care that i 'lost' 24 hours of mining to a dev that ripped me off ...

hang on - djm HASNT ripped me off - nor anyone else for that matter ... in fact - it was djm and others that have increased shasrates and improved the miners we are using in the first place ...

so semantics? ... i hardly think so ... buying is buying - selling is selling - donating is donating ... they are ALL different - they are ALL our choice ...

if it were simply a matter of 'playing with semantics' - then we would ALL be in a bigger mess than what this world is already in ... especially politics ... no semantics there ... each word MEANS what it means ... simple ...

difference is ( and i will totally agree with you on this ) is that it is moderated and there are consequences in politics / finace / economy ... there are no such things here ...

so its up to the individual ... if i were to commission djm ( or any of the devs for that matter ) to 'privately' design ME an optimized miner - then i would pay him for it and NO ON Ewould have it bar djm and myself and those that 'we' allow to have the optimizations ... the miner is free - people can go about their business with that - but MY product is not ... and it would be MY choice to either give it out - or not ...

but as it stands - i have not commissioned djm or any other dev ... all he has done is put a proposal forward and i am one of the many that have agreed to DONATE ( yes - that word again ) my money to him ... knowing full well that he could just drop this project and run with the money ...

i trust he wont - and i also trust that if there were a more optimized version than the release he 'may' give to us that donate - then that optimized version is HIS to do as he pleases anyway ...

i hope that is not the case - but it is a valid point you raise ...

its a matter of trust ... and if you dont trust - dont pledge - dont donate - dont bother ... just wait till it all comes out in the wash ...

btw - as for the upkeep of the kernel / miner ... there is NOTHING binding any of these devs to continue support OR maintain and improve the optimizations ... if we all wanted that - we should contract them and bind them by law to follow through with such things ... which means they NEED to be PAID for such output ...

im from a corporate background dealing with such things - and i can tell you the shit slinging that happens when you get involved with such things ...

5btc as a crowd fund or donation? ... hell - i have seen people trying to kill each other over contracts that dont mean crap ...

i like this free enterprise 'stuff' ... because if you dont like what you see - you dont invest NOR pledge NOR donate ...

so agreed in some - but way off agreement on most of the comparisons that you make also ...

just finished building one machine - 5x 750 ti oc ... now on to the next ...

tanx for the banter bensam ... hehehe ...

#crysx


Title: Re: neoscrypt algo for ccminer and nvidia card: call for donation
Post by: chrysophylax on January 12, 2015, 09:05:33 AM
djm34 will opensource his work if the bounty is met. Me and Klaust and probobly others will try to optimize it further as we have done with the other algos. Lyra has been optimized 12% in the ccminer sp-mod, from the inital version. We are working hard to give you more hash, and to make the game fair. Donate some beers, and get more hash :)
.

more mining and donation coming sp ...

your latest version of ccminer is running SMOOTH :) ...

#crysx


Title: Re: neoscrypt algo for ccminer and nvidia card: call for donation
Post by: Carl Sagan on January 12, 2015, 11:30:06 AM
Hey genius,

Quote:
"Now, if there isn't enough people who donates, the miner will be only given to those who have pledged. "

I did pledge. Nothing was given. Period.

genius - why tanx :) ... hehehe ...

the PLEDGE is just that ... a pledge ... what djm does with HIS work and HIS money is HIS decision ...

these devs spend a great deal of time to do the work that they do carl ... optimizations and development take a lot of time and effort ...

if you have issues with it - leave the project - and pick up the miner when it gets to the public arena ...

you make it out as if you BOUGHT something here ... you didnt! ...

pledge - donation ... you know - all those words ...

even if djm gives 'his work' ( not so much the miner itself as its all open source anyway ) to ONE person - who is to say that person wont give it to another or another ... or make it publicly available - like one of wolf's binaries ... its unfair and i understand that he is protecting at least 'some' time for his work ...

its a small amount of money to be donating to a dev that actually HAS already contributed to the development prior to all this ...

i believe that its deservant ... and if he doesnt want to hand out the miner / code / his work ... then he doesnt have to. Yes he does.

now thats genius ... my ass



#crysx
Quote:
"you make it out as if you BOUGHT something here ... you didnt! ..."

You are right kid. I just lost my money to the scammer.
for info, I sent him a pm to tell him that I would give him his donation back before he start trolling here (because I don't deal with moron)
that he had to just to send me his btc address, which he never sent actually.  ;D
So basically, he just bought free trolling... yeah well be my guest...


Ehem, You have the address... Where is the money?

To remind you: 17Y4dms9eqXpyX89osnevce6D5q9BwW2ad


Title: Re: neoscrypt algo for ccminer and nvidia card: call for donation
Post by: djm34 on January 12, 2015, 11:42:24 AM
Hey genius,

Quote:
"Now, if there isn't enough people who donates, the miner will be only given to those who have pledged. "

I did pledge. Nothing was given. Period.

genius - why tanx :) ... hehehe ...

the PLEDGE is just that ... a pledge ... what djm does with HIS work and HIS money is HIS decision ...

these devs spend a great deal of time to do the work that they do carl ... optimizations and development take a lot of time and effort ...

if you have issues with it - leave the project - and pick up the miner when it gets to the public arena ...

you make it out as if you BOUGHT something here ... you didnt! ...

pledge - donation ... you know - all those words ...

even if djm gives 'his work' ( not so much the miner itself as its all open source anyway ) to ONE person - who is to say that person wont give it to another or another ... or make it publicly available - like one of wolf's binaries ... its unfair and i understand that he is protecting at least 'some' time for his work ...

its a small amount of money to be donating to a dev that actually HAS already contributed to the development prior to all this ...

i believe that its deservant ... and if he doesnt want to hand out the miner / code / his work ... then he doesnt have to. Yes he does.

now thats genius ... my ass



#crysx
Quote:
"you make it out as if you BOUGHT something here ... you didnt! ..."

You are right kid. I just lost my money to the scammer.
for info, I sent him a pm to tell him that I would give him his donation back before he start trolling here (because I don't deal with moron)
that he had to just to send me his btc address, which he never sent actually.  ;D
So basically, he just bought free trolling... yeah well be my guest...


Ehem, You have the address... Where is the money?

To remind you: 17Y4dms9eqXpyX89osnevce6D5q9BwW2ad
you'll get it, minus a trolling fee (because while I was sleeping, you clearly tried to derail the thread ) ;D

and for info ltcgear current state is closer to a collapsed ponzi than anything else as they didn't pay anything since a month (I know I have ltcgear shares...  ::) ) so right now there are no fpga for neoscrypt...


Title: Re: neoscrypt algo for ccminer and nvidia card: call for donation
Post by: djm34 on January 12, 2015, 12:24:16 PM
So now you're playing semantics with the word donation and buying?

I'd say the majority of the people in this thread see 'donating' as crowd funding this product, not pissing away their money to hopes and dreams of someone who doesn't care that much about them.

Don't get me wrong, I'm all for paying for something, but I see something like this as another scam. He could very well be giving you guys a half hash rate miner and selling one that hashes twice as fast to his big clientele, which will make this miner obsolete in like a month as all the AMD miners with a inferior hashrate and power draw are pushed off the market and all you're left facing off against are the other 'big' Nvidia miners with double the hashrate of you... which you can't compete with.

Djm said he didn't want to do a miner with a fee because people would tear the code out of it. There are a lot of ways to crowd fund something. He could release this, along with a 2% miner and says when he reaches the next X donation amount (based off income from the miner), he'll release a updated version.

People can do things like a % miner and it does work, that's true crowd funding there and it's not the dick it to the small guy way of doing things Wolf0 is doing. Anyone can help participate no matter how big or small.

But people seem to think once this is released, that's where development will end and this will be a good kernel/miner till the end of time. That's not the way it works. There are no guarantees, no promises, you don't even know what he has going on in the background or what he's planning to do. Shops like LTCgear have went under and they look pretty reputable. There is no shop or storefront, just a forum thread that says 'gimmie BTC and I give you this miner at this speed kthxbai'.
the power/gpu dev troll is back  ;D (bensam is just pissed off at me and wolf0 because we told him that it was stupid to develop a crippled miner working at half the speed for half the power usage... as he can do that by clocking down his card... so it is a bit funny that know he accuses us to developed crippled miner ;D ...)
I never said "gimmie BTC and I give you this miner at a given speed"
I said, I will release a neoscrypt miner for nvidia as none exist at the moment for nvidia when a certain amount of donation has been met.
also I never made any promises on the speed, current speed has been given (several time, as it is still a work in progress). 

regarding the %fee on miner, which in my opinion has a lot more to do with taxation than crowdfunding, it would be a lot more profitable for us (gpu dev) to do this, however it means no more opensourcing (and complete rewrite of the code to not be bound to GPL anymore... + fully crypted exe to avoid cheater... )
Also you'll get others unhappy troll... and in the current state of crypto not sure it makes any sense anymore.

actually no matter what we do and how we do it, there will be always someone to complain...




Title: Re: neoscrypt algo for ccminer and nvidia card: call for donation
Post by: Bombadil on January 12, 2015, 12:27:06 PM
actually no matter what we do and how we do it, there will be always someone to complain...

And loads of people who appreciate whatever you're doing for the community :D Don't forget about us ;)


Title: Re: neoscrypt algo for ccminer and nvidia card: call for donation
Post by: chrysophylax on January 12, 2015, 12:35:24 PM
actually no matter what we do and how we do it, there will be always someone to complain...

And loads of people who appreciate whatever you're doing for the community :D Don't forget about us ;)

second that ...

in fact - i third that too ...

#crysx


Title: Re: neoscrypt algo for ccminer and nvidia card: call for donation
Post by: tbearhere on January 12, 2015, 12:35:50 PM
Hey genius,

Quote:
"Now, if there isn't enough people who donates, the miner will be only given to those who have pledged. "

I did pledge. Nothing was given. Period.

genius - why tanx :) ... hehehe ...

the PLEDGE is just that ... a pledge ... what djm does with HIS work and HIS money is HIS decision ...

these devs spend a great deal of time to do the work that they do carl ... optimizations and development take a lot of time and effort ...

if you have issues with it - leave the project - and pick up the miner when it gets to the public arena ...

you make it out as if you BOUGHT something here ... you didnt! ...

pledge - donation ... you know - all those words ...

even if djm gives 'his work' ( not so much the miner itself as its all open source anyway ) to ONE person - who is to say that person wont give it to another or another ... or make it publicly available - like one of wolf's binaries ... its unfair and i understand that he is protecting at least 'some' time for his work ...

its a small amount of money to be donating to a dev that actually HAS already contributed to the development prior to all this ...

i believe that its deservant ... and if he doesnt want to hand out the miner / code / his work ... then he doesnt have to. Yes he does.

now thats genius ... my ass



#crysx
Quote:
"you make it out as if you BOUGHT something here ... you didnt! ..."

You are right kid. I just lost my money to the scammer.
for info, I sent him a pm to tell him that I would give him his donation back before he start trolling here (because I don't deal with moron)
that he had to just to send me his btc address, which he never sent actually.  ;D
So basically, he just bought free trolling... yeah well be my guest...


Here you go:

BTW when you receive something you get the address it was sent from.
@Carl Sagan Please delete your btc address, I don't want mprep to lock this thread. thx  Keep up the good work djm.  ;)


Title: Re: neoscrypt algo for ccminer and nvidia card: call for donation
Post by: chrysophylax on January 12, 2015, 12:37:50 PM
So now you're playing semantics with the word donation and buying?

I'd say the majority of the people in this thread see 'donating' as crowd funding this product, not pissing away their money to hopes and dreams of someone who doesn't care that much about them.

Don't get me wrong, I'm all for paying for something, but I see something like this as another scam. He could very well be giving you guys a half hash rate miner and selling one that hashes twice as fast to his big clientele, which will make this miner obsolete in like a month as all the AMD miners with a inferior hashrate and power draw are pushed off the market and all you're left facing off against are the other 'big' Nvidia miners with double the hashrate of you... which you can't compete with.

Djm said he didn't want to do a miner with a fee because people would tear the code out of it. There are a lot of ways to crowd fund something. He could release this, along with a 2% miner and says when he reaches the next X donation amount (based off income from the miner), he'll release a updated version.

People can do things like a % miner and it does work, that's true crowd funding there and it's not the dick it to the small guy way of doing things Wolf0 is doing. Anyone can help participate no matter how big or small.

But people seem to think once this is released, that's where development will end and this will be a good kernel/miner till the end of time. That's not the way it works. There are no guarantees, no promises, you don't even know what he has going on in the background or what he's planning to do. Shops like LTCgear have went under and they look pretty reputable. There is no shop or storefront, just a forum thread that says 'gimmie BTC and I give you this miner at this speed kthxbai'.
the power/gpu dev troll is back  ;D (bensam is just pissed off at me and wolf0 because we told him that it was stupid to develop a crippled miner working at half the speed for half the power usage... as he can do that by clocking down his card... so it is a bit funny that know he accuses us to developed crippled miner ;D ...)
I never said "gimmie BTC and I give you this miner at a given speed"
I said, I will release a neoscrypt miner for nvidia as none exist at the moment for nvidia when a certain amount of donation has been met.
also I never made any promises on the speed, current speed has been given (several time, as it is still a work in progress). 

regarding the %fee on miner, which in my opinion has a lot more to do with taxation than crowdfunding, it would be a lot more profitable for us (gpu dev) to do this, however it means no more opensourcing (and complete rewrite of the code to not be bound to GPL anymore... + fully crypted exe to avoid cheater... )
Also you'll get others unhappy troll... and in the current state of crypto not sure it makes any sense anymore.

actually no matter what we do and how we do it, there will be always someone to complain...




thats kool ...

we KNOW what you said djm ... hence the reason WE dont have an issue - and 'some' others do ...

just keep at it and keep it cracking ... the majority of us are behind you on this ...

#crysx


Title: Re: neoscrypt algo for ccminer and nvidia card: call for donation
Post by: Carl Sagan on January 12, 2015, 05:04:53 PM
Hey genius,

Quote:
"Now, if there isn't enough people who donates, the miner will be only given to those who have pledged. "

I did pledge. Nothing was given. Period.

genius - why tanx :) ... hehehe ...

the PLEDGE is just that ... a pledge ... what djm does with HIS work and HIS money is HIS decision ...

these devs spend a great deal of time to do the work that they do carl ... optimizations and development take a lot of time and effort ...

if you have issues with it - leave the project - and pick up the miner when it gets to the public arena ...

you make it out as if you BOUGHT something here ... you didnt! ...

pledge - donation ... you know - all those words ...

even if djm gives 'his work' ( not so much the miner itself as its all open source anyway ) to ONE person - who is to say that person wont give it to another or another ... or make it publicly available - like one of wolf's binaries ... its unfair and i understand that he is protecting at least 'some' time for his work ...

its a small amount of money to be donating to a dev that actually HAS already contributed to the development prior to all this ...

i believe that its deservant ... and if he doesnt want to hand out the miner / code / his work ... then he doesnt have to. Yes he does.

now thats genius ... my ass



#crysx
Quote:
"you make it out as if you BOUGHT something here ... you didnt! ..."

You are right kid. I just lost my money to the scammer.
for info, I sent him a pm to tell him that I would give him his donation back before he start trolling here (because I don't deal with moron)
that he had to just to send me his btc address, which he never sent actually.  ;D
So basically, he just bought free trolling... yeah well be my guest...


Ehem, You have the address... Where is the money?

To remind you: 17Y4dms9eqXpyX89osnevce6D5q9BwW2ad
you'll get it, minus a trolling fee (because while I was sleeping, you clearly tried to derail the thread ) ;D

and for info ltcgear current state is closer to a collapsed ponzi than anything else as they didn't pay anything since a month (I know I have ltcgear shares...  ::) ) so right now there are no fpga for neoscrypt...

Quote:

"you'll get it, minus a trolling fee (because while I was sleeping, you clearly tried to derail the thread ) Grin"

Wow, this is so low. Are you from Romania or something?


Title: Re: neoscrypt algo for ccminer and nvidia card: call for donation
Post by: Namsbreh on January 12, 2015, 07:50:45 PM
@Carl......go away please.

@djm

Just sent a small 0.01 donation to the cause  tx 1361580efb32f8a5a9dfa2d2098b52e6fd2a85b31ad4430be2f3cd85ed4235fc

As always thanks for your efforts.


Title: Re: neoscrypt algo for ccminer and nvidia card: call for donation
Post by: Carl Sagan on January 12, 2015, 10:03:03 PM
@Carl......go away please.

@djm

Just sent a small 0.01 donation to the cause  tx 1361580efb32f8a5a9dfa2d2098b52e6fd2a85b31ad4430be2f3cd85ed4235fc

As always thanks for your efforts.

I won't go away until my money is returned. Just look at this:

Quote from PM:

"For your info, if I was releasing a private miner only, I would not release for what you gave either."

I gave more then the most: https://blockchain.info/tx/9e112ee4732ba68908f26439f959139ea0fdac63c45d4b894710d970f7f15b18

Yea pledge sheeple, you will never see your miner from this scammer.

So, every single donation less or equal to mine will be taken with pleasure and nothing will be given in return.

Wake up.

P.S.
If he returns the money, I don't think it will happen (he has no honor), I would prefer to donate to SP_ who is professional and honest.


Title: Re: neoscrypt algo for ccminer and nvidia card: call for donation
Post by: djm34 on January 12, 2015, 10:51:24 PM
@Carl......go away please.

@djm

Just sent a small 0.01 donation to the cause  tx 1361580efb32f8a5a9dfa2d2098b52e6fd2a85b31ad4430be2f3cd85ed4235fc

As always thanks for your efforts.

I won't go away until my money is returned. Just look at this:

Quote from PM:

"For your info, if I was releasing a private miner only, I would not release for what you gave either."
Sure, nobody would release a completely private miner for 0.06btc... ::) That's 15euros, that's kind of ridiculous considering the time it takes to write those things...
Here the point of this pledge is still to release a public miner for everybody, that's why I asked for donation from everybody (and in case there is not enough people pledging, it would not be released in the wild but only to those who pledge...) that's all I said. It isn't an auction/ pledging now or pledging in a week won't get you the miner faster.
Now you sent email like you wanted the miner now and not in a distant future. The answer was no because I didn't want to make exception also as a noobie account, there is absolutely NO WAY I would have given you the miner in advance as I don't know you hence don't trust you and I want to avoid leaks...

Considering honor: In one of your email you said either I gave you your money back either you call me a scammer (to what I answer ok that I needed an address before you even started your drama) you didn't send your address and started calling me a scammer  ;D

So technically, You called me a scammer, therefore I am not entirely sure I really owe anything anymore (hence my troll fee).
You'll get your money back minus my troll fee soon.  
If you want, I can even sent directly that amount to _sp  ;D





Title: Re: neoscrypt algo for ccminer and nvidia card: call for donation
Post by: Carl Sagan on January 13, 2015, 01:58:07 AM
@Carl......go away please.

@djm

Just sent a small 0.01 donation to the cause  tx 1361580efb32f8a5a9dfa2d2098b52e6fd2a85b31ad4430be2f3cd85ed4235fc

As always thanks for your efforts.

I won't go away until my money is returned. Just look at this:

Quote from PM:

"For your info, if I was releasing a private miner only, I would not release for what you gave either."
Sure, nobody would release a completely private miner for 0.06btc... ::) That's 15euros, that's kind of ridiculous considering the time it takes to write those things...
Here the point of this pledge is still to release a public miner for everybody, that's why I asked for donation from everybody (and in case there is not enough people pledging, it would not be released in the wild but only to those who pledge...) that's all I said. It isn't an auction/ pledging now or pledging in a week won't get you the miner faster.
Now you sent email like you wanted the miner now and not in a distant future. The answer was no because I didn't want to make exception also as a noobie account, there is absolutely NO WAY I would have given you the miner in advance as I don't know you hence don't trust you and I want to avoid leaks...

Considering honor: In one of your email you said either I gave you your money back either you call me a scammer (to what I answer ok that I needed an address before you even started your drama) you didn't send your address and started calling me a scammer  ;D

So technically, You called me a scammer, therefore I am not entirely sure I really owe anything anymore (hence my troll fee).
You'll get your money back minus my troll fee soon. 
If you want, I can even sent directly that amount to _sp  ;D





Quote:

"Considering honor: In one of your email you said either I gave you your money back either you call me a scammer (to what I answer ok that I needed an address before you even started your drama) you didn't send your address and started calling me a scammer"


I gave you my address more than once. Scammer.


Quote:

"If you want, I can even sent directly that amount to _sp"

Nope. I don't trust you.







Title: Re: neoscrypt algo for ccminer and nvidia card: call for donation
Post by: Carl Sagan on January 13, 2015, 03:11:28 AM

Time to ignore and move on.


Nope. Time to pay.


Title: Re: neoscrypt algo for ccminer and nvidia card: call for donation
Post by: djm34 on January 13, 2015, 03:51:48 AM

Time to ignore and move on.


Nope. Time to pay.
time to bed... will see that tomorrow


Title: Re: neoscrypt algo for ccminer and nvidia card: call for donation
Post by: Carl Sagan on January 13, 2015, 04:10:34 AM

Time to ignore and move on.


Nope. Time to pay.
time to bed... will see that tomorrow


Tomorrow my ass lil thief.


Title: Re: neoscrypt algo for ccminer and nvidia card: call for donation
Post by: Bombadil on January 13, 2015, 06:01:06 AM

Time to ignore and move on.


Nope. Time to pay.
time to bed... will see that tomorrow

xD <3 DJM.


Title: Re: neoscrypt algo for ccminer and nvidia card: call for donation
Post by: chrysophylax on January 13, 2015, 06:49:04 AM

Time to ignore and move on.


Nope. Time to pay.
time to bed... will see that tomorrow


Tomorrow my ass lil thief.

This is amusing. djm34 has done more for this community than you can imagine, and for free. AND he stated that the miner would be released once 5 BTC was met - NOT to everyone who donated WHEN they donated. Learn to read.

dont prolong the pain ... just do what needs to be done and move on ...

no matter how amusing it is ... ;)

some people just feed off the attention ...

#crysx


Title: Re: neoscrypt algo for ccminer and nvidia card: call for donation
Post by: Carl Sagan on January 13, 2015, 09:03:48 AM

Time to ignore and move on.


Nope. Time to pay.
time to bed... will see that tomorrow


Tomorrow my ass lil thief.

This is amusing. djm34 has done more for this community than you can imagine, and for free. AND he stated that the miner would be released once 5 BTC was met - NOT to everyone who donated WHEN they donated. Learn to read.

Dude,

Don't you understand that I don't want his miner anymore? I want my money back. Get it through your wolf head.

I don't care what he has done to the community of veteran GPU miners. He took my money and did not deliver. He is a thief.

And here:

djm34
Sr. Member
****


Activity: 378


View Profile Personal Message (Offline)
Trust: -6: -1 / +0(0)
Warning: Trade with extreme caution!

It speaks for itself.


Title: Re: neoscrypt algo for ccminer and nvidia card: call for donation
Post by: Bombadil on January 13, 2015, 10:53:41 AM
Where do you see that low trust rating? Goddamn, you're a *$£!6ç mofo. There's nothing interesting in his trust status.
So now you're just going to lie your ass off with stuff other can check. I think your trolling fee should be set at 50%..

Even though you're ignoring me, I hope you know you're screwing it up for yourself. Wouldn't be the first time I received a certain priv miner (for testing etc) because peeps know me and they can trust me. Now, no one will ever trust you/carl sagan again, at least not in the cudacommunity and with that nickname, so byebye. Go donate to sp_, you won't get anything back for it probz, not now, not in the future.
Also, for those who are on IRC (#ccminer) too, will know that I also post a lot of preview/testing builds there before I release any of my simple tools. But no way I'm gonna give anything to you. Not even if I'd make it paid.


Title: Re: neoscrypt algo for ccminer and nvidia card: call for donation
Post by: djm34 on January 13, 2015, 11:03:32 AM
Where do you see that low trust rating? Goddamn, you're a *$£!6ç mofo. There's nothing interesting in his trust status.
So now you're just going to lie your ass off with stuff other can check. I think your trolling fee should be set at 50%..
;D yeah... I just discovered some moron put some bad trust on me after a discussion on either JPC thread or some other coin.
some people don't like to be contradicted


Title: Re: neoscrypt algo for ccminer and nvidia card: call for donation
Post by: Bombadil on January 13, 2015, 11:10:54 AM
Where do you see that low trust rating? Goddamn, you're a *$£!6ç mofo. There's nothing interesting in his trust status.
So now you're just going to lie your ass off with stuff other can check. I think your trolling fee should be set at 50%..
;D yeah... I just discovered some moron put some bad trust on me after a discussion on either JPC thread or some other coin.
some people don't like to be contradicted

Yeah, but that doesn't show directly + it isn't -6...

EDIT: Haha, just saw he added a trust rating to you, djm. And he's making an even greater idiot of himself:
Quote
make donation and ask for a refund of his donation before the end of the pledge period.
He's even saying he risked 5BTC.....................


Title: Re: neoscrypt algo for ccminer and nvidia card: call for donation
Post by: djm34 on January 13, 2015, 11:21:37 AM
Where do you see that low trust rating? Goddamn, you're a *$£!6ç mofo. There's nothing interesting in his trust status.
So now you're just going to lie your ass off with stuff other can check. I think your trolling fee should be set at 50%..
;D yeah... I just discovered some moron put some bad trust on me after a discussion on either JPC thread or some other coin.
some people don't like to be contradicted

Yeah, but that doesn't show directly + it isn't -6...

EDIT: Haha, just saw he added a trust rating to you, djm. And he's making an even greater idiot of himself:
Quote from: CarlFoolSagan
make donation and ask for a refund of his donation before the end of the pledge period.
He's even saying he risked 5BTC.....................
actually that's me... that trust rating is very confusing.... (5btc is because he put a bad vibe on the crowd funding project...)


Title: Re: neoscrypt algo for ccminer and nvidia card: call for donation
Post by: Bombadil on January 13, 2015, 11:30:24 AM
Oops, yeah, just noticed :D
Lol, he did 2 ratings or what? Lolwhut.


Title: Re: neoscrypt algo for ccminer and nvidia card: call for donation
Post by: Carl Sagan on January 13, 2015, 11:45:25 AM
Where do you see that low trust rating? Goddamn, you're a *$£!6ç mofo. There's nothing interesting in his trust status.
So now you're just going to lie your ass off with stuff other can check. I think your trolling fee should be set at 50%..
;D yeah... I just discovered some moron put some bad trust on me after a discussion on either JPC thread or some other coin.
some people don't like to be contradicted

Yeah, but that doesn't show directly + it isn't -6...

EDIT: Haha, just saw he added a trust rating to you, djm. And he's making an even greater idiot of himself:
Quote from: CarlFoolSagan
make donation and ask for a refund of his donation before the end of the pledge period.
He's even saying he risked 5BTC.....................
actually that's me... that trust rating is very confusing.... (5btc is because he put a bad vibe on the crowd funding project...)


FTFU: crowd stealing project...)



Ehem, BTW, where is my money?


Title: Re: neoscrypt algo for ccminer and nvidia card: call for donation
Post by: djm34 on January 13, 2015, 12:09:53 PM
Where do you see that low trust rating? Goddamn, you're a *$£!6ç mofo. There's nothing interesting in his trust status.
So now you're just going to lie your ass off with stuff other can check. I think your trolling fee should be set at 50%..
;D yeah... I just discovered some moron put some bad trust on me after a discussion on either JPC thread or some other coin.
some people don't like to be contradicted

Yeah, but that doesn't show directly + it isn't -6...

EDIT: Haha, just saw he added a trust rating to you, djm. And he's making an even greater idiot of himself:
Quote from: CarlFoolSagan
make donation and ask for a refund of his donation before the end of the pledge period.
He's even saying he risked 5BTC.....................
actually that's me... that trust rating is very confusing.... (5btc is because he put a bad vibe on the crowd funding project...)


FTFU: crowd stealing project...)



Ehem, BTW, where is my money?
here the pm I send you in reply to yours:

Did I tell you not to fuck with the bear? ;)
you are just making an ass of yourself... nobody will ever deal with you because you are a pain in the ass...
You would already have had your money back if you had acted politely and not like a troll.
(may-be it is how you do things in Brooklyn... assuming your email address is correct, but here it doesn't work that way...
and using threat against me just makes me want to delay even more...)
So you'll get your money back in 2 days starting from now, provided you don't troll on the thread.  
Any trolling will reset the counter.

Sorry, I am very stubborn and using intimidation makes things worst. (it isn't a question of money, it is a question of principle)


Title: Re: neoscrypt algo for ccminer and nvidia card: call for donation
Post by: kaltar on January 13, 2015, 04:02:13 PM

Time to ignore and move on.


Nope. Time to pay.
time to bed... will see that tomorrow


Tomorrow my ass lil thief.

This is amusing. djm34 has done more for this community than you can imagine, and for free. AND he stated that the miner would be released once 5 BTC was met - NOT to everyone who donated WHEN they donated. Learn to read.

Trolls can read .?


Title: Re: neoscrypt algo for ccminer and nvidia card: call for donation
Post by: Carl Sagan on January 13, 2015, 06:01:23 PM
Where do you see that low trust rating? Goddamn, you're a *$£!6ç mofo. There's nothing interesting in his trust status.
So now you're just going to lie your ass off with stuff other can check. I think your trolling fee should be set at 50%..
;D yeah... I just discovered some moron put some bad trust on me after a discussion on either JPC thread or some other coin.
some people don't like to be contradicted

Yeah, but that doesn't show directly + it isn't -6...

EDIT: Haha, just saw he added a trust rating to you, djm. And he's making an even greater idiot of himself:
Quote from: CarlFoolSagan
make donation and ask for a refund of his donation before the end of the pledge period.
He's even saying he risked 5BTC.....................
actually that's me... that trust rating is very confusing.... (5btc is because he put a bad vibe on the crowd funding project...)


FTFU: crowd stealing project...)



Ehem, BTW, where is my money?
here the pm I send you in reply to yours:

Did I tell you not to fuck with the bear? ;)
you are just making an ass of yourself... nobody will ever deal with you because you are a pain in the ass...
You would already have had your money back if you had acted politely and not like a troll.
(may-be it is how you do things in Brooklyn... assuming your email address is correct, but here it doesn't work that way...
and using threat against me just makes me want to delay even more...)
So you'll get your money back in 2 days starting from now, provided you don't troll on the thread.  
Any trolling will reset the counter.

Sorry, I am very stubborn and using intimidation makes things worst. (it isn't a question of money, it is a question of principle)

Quote:

"(it isn't a question of money, it is a question of principle)"

Exactly.


Title: Re: neoscrypt algo for ccminer and nvidia card: call for donation
Post by: djm34 on January 13, 2015, 07:48:53 PM
New hashrates:

980:   495kh/s
780ti: 231kh/s
750ti: 136kh/s 142kh/s


Title: Re: neoscrypt algo for ccminer and nvidia card: call for donation
Post by: Bombadil on January 13, 2015, 08:36:55 PM
New hashrates:

980:   495kh/s
780ti: 231kh/s
750ti: 136kh/s 142kh/s

Ooh yeah, bump them compute5.0 speeds :D


Title: Re: neoscrypt algo for ccminer and nvidia card: call for donation
Post by: sp_ on January 13, 2015, 08:39:43 PM
New hashrates:
980:   495kh/s
780ti: 231kh/s
750ti: 136kh/s 142kh/s
Ooh yeah, bump them compute5.0 speeds :D

Nice boost on the Ti. Did you reduce the threadcount or something?


Title: Re: neoscrypt algo for ccminer and nvidia card: call for donation
Post by: djm34 on January 13, 2015, 09:13:42 PM
New hashrates:
980:   495kh/s
780ti: 231kh/s
750ti: 136kh/s 142kh/s
Ooh yeah, bump them compute5.0 speeds :D

Nice boost on the Ti. Did you reduce the threadcount or something?
playing with read-only cache memory... (_ldg)


Title: Re: neoscrypt algo for ccminer and nvidia card: call for donation
Post by: scryptr on January 14, 2015, 03:07:50 AM
DJM34 and Cuda devs-

Thanks for the work.  I've made some small donations to several of the recent Cuda developers and to this project.  I think I owe CBuchner 2 bits still   ::)   and I hope the work on mining code continues.       -scryptr   


Title: Re: neoscrypt algo for ccminer and nvidia card: call for donation
Post by: chrysophylax on January 14, 2015, 03:10:19 AM
DJM34 and Cuda devs-

Thanks for the work.  I've made some small donations to several of the recent Cuda developers and to this project.  I think I owe CBuchner 2 bits still   ::)   and I hope the work on mining code continues.       -scryptr   

i second that also ...

cant wait to get neoscrypt in full force ...

#crysx


Title: Re: neoscrypt algo for ccminer and nvidia card: call for donation
Post by: bensam123 on January 14, 2015, 06:52:30 AM
actually no matter what we do and how we do it, there will be always someone to complain...

And loads of people who appreciate whatever you're doing for the community :D Don't forget about us ;)

They haven't done anything for the community dude! That's how messed up this is.

They make private kernels, sell them to big miners, who then push your shares of whatever coin you're mining down to absolutely nothing, then they sell them to you after the big miners so you can be remotely competitive with the miners they already sold their kernels to!

You don't even know if you're getting the fastest version of the miner and they're planning on doing this all over again. So in a month or so after they sell their next 'newest' kernel to the big miners, which push down your income to absolutely nothing, they sell it back to you. Income for coins is pretty much proportional, it's a pie or a percentage and it's all based off your hashrate, which varies with kernels. You can't get ahead of someone else without a better kernel and they're making a business model off of cutting your profits and then selling them back to you.

Some of you are so blind this is disgusting, they're openly swindling you over and over again and you're thanking them for it because all you can see is +hashrate, which is not how mining works.

Why do I have a problem with this not being professional? Because you can't make well informed decisions off someone selling you a eighth of crack out of the back of someones van. You don't have a open market you can actually compare wares on. What if you could get Wolfs version of this miner which has double the hashrate, but only costs 10% more? Would you even bother with this? No, you wouldn't, but you can't tell because of the way they're operating things. There is no competition, there isn't a open market for private kernels, there is no 'product' here, it's just giving a random guy money for whatever he feels like giving you.

What's wrong with a % based miner with continued support? They don't want to do it cause it's work and then they can't do what I already outlined by selling their kernels over and over again maximizing their profits off unknowing victims, it's a scam.


Asic 'resistant' coins need a solid algorithm so this can't happen. Protection against ASICs and private kernels. This is exactly what happened with ASICs, only now we're talking about private kernels instead of ASICs.


Title: Re: neoscrypt algo for ccminer and nvidia card: call for donation
Post by: sp_ on January 14, 2015, 07:44:51 AM
I have never sold a kernal, and I keep pushing the hash upwards for free. I've got some donations though, but less than 0.4 BTC


Title: Re: neoscrypt algo for ccminer and nvidia card: call for donation
Post by: TruongEN on January 14, 2015, 07:46:45 AM
Hi everybody!  :)


Title: Re: neoscrypt algo for ccminer and nvidia card: call for donation
Post by: djm34 on January 14, 2015, 10:49:52 AM
actually no matter what we do and how we do it, there will be always someone to complain...

And loads of people who appreciate whatever you're doing for the community :D Don't forget about us ;)

They haven't done anything for the community dude! That's how messed up this is.

They make private kernels, sell them to big miners, who then push your shares of whatever coin you're mining down to absolutely nothing, then they sell them to you after the big miners so you can be remotely competitive with the miners they already sold their kernels to!

You don't even know if you're getting the fastest version of the miner and they're planning on doing this all over again. So in a month or so after they sell their next 'newest' kernel to the big miners, which push down your income to absolutely nothing, they sell it back to you. Income for coins is pretty much proportional, it's a pie or a percentage and it's all based off your hashrate, which varies with kernels. You can't get ahead of someone else without a better kernel and they're making a business model off of cutting your profits and then selling them back to you.

Some of you are so blind this is disgusting, they're openly swindling you over and over again and you're thanking them for it because all you can see is +hashrate, which is not how mining works.

Why do I have a problem with this not being professional? Because you can't make well informed decisions off someone selling you a eighth of crack out of the back of someones van. You don't have a open market you can actually compare wares on. What if you could get Wolfs version of this miner which has double the hashrate, but only costs 10% more? Would you even bother with this? No, you wouldn't, but you can't tell because of the way they're operating things. There is no competition, there isn't a open market for private kernels, there is no 'product' here, it's just giving a random guy money for whatever he feels like giving you.

What's wrong with a % based miner with continued support? They don't want to do it cause it's work and then they can't do what I already outlined by selling their kernels over and over again maximizing their profits off unknowing victims, it's a scam.


Asic 'resistant' coins need a solid algorithm so this can't happen. Protection against ASICs and private kernels. This is exactly what happened with ASICs, only now we're talking about private kernels instead of ASICs.
zzzzzzzzzzzz get a hobby (or a hobbit since you are a troll  ;D) ,
the only who got scammed in that story are the developers who spent time working on something for practically nothing for ungrateful moron like you, who will tell you "fuck you asshole" rather "thank you for your work". That's the real story.
There is no competition ? Feel free to join nobody forbid you. (and implement your dev %fee crap you are asking, I will be happy to pay you a fee for it  ;D)

I don't know how you think software development work, but you have microsoft who have been selling the exact same product for 30 year with update (as well as any other software companies). May-be you should troll on their forum and tell them they are scamming everybody because they sell windows 8.1 but have already windows 20.1... that's the exact same thing. That's call improvement, unfortunately you don't get full speed right away, new piece of code, new idea have to be found.
(get your hand dirty and join the competition... you will see that it isn't that easy...)

But I guess there is no point in answering you, you know very well you are just trolling, at least I hope for you you are not that stupid in real life  ;D


Title: Re: neoscrypt algo for ccminer and nvidia card: call for donation
Post by: chrysophylax on January 14, 2015, 10:55:00 AM
actually no matter what we do and how we do it, there will be always someone to complain...

And loads of people who appreciate whatever you're doing for the community :D Don't forget about us ;)

They haven't done anything for the community dude! That's how messed up this is.

They make private kernels, sell them to big miners, who then push your shares of whatever coin you're mining down to absolutely nothing, then they sell them to you after the big miners so you can be remotely competitive with the miners they already sold their kernels to!

You don't even know if you're getting the fastest version of the miner and they're planning on doing this all over again. So in a month or so after they sell their next 'newest' kernel to the big miners, which push down your income to absolutely nothing, they sell it back to you. Income for coins is pretty much proportional, it's a pie or a percentage and it's all based off your hashrate, which varies with kernels. You can't get ahead of someone else without a better kernel and they're making a business model off of cutting your profits and then selling them back to you.

Some of you are so blind this is disgusting, they're openly swindling you over and over again and you're thanking them for it because all you can see is +hashrate, which is not how mining works.

Why do I have a problem with this not being professional? Because you can't make well informed decisions off someone selling you a eighth of crack out of the back of someones van. You don't have a open market you can actually compare wares on. What if you could get Wolfs version of this miner which has double the hashrate, but only costs 10% more? Would you even bother with this? No, you wouldn't, but you can't tell because of the way they're operating things. There is no competition, there isn't a open market for private kernels, there is no 'product' here, it's just giving a random guy money for whatever he feels like giving you.

What's wrong with a % based miner with continued support? They don't want to do it cause it's work and then they can't do what I already outlined by selling their kernels over and over again maximizing their profits off unknowing victims, it's a scam.


Asic 'resistant' coins need a solid algorithm so this can't happen. Protection against ASICs and private kernels. This is exactly what happened with ASICs, only now we're talking about private kernels instead of ASICs.

look at what you are saying bensam? seriously ...

an open free market? ... really? ...

what the hell is this that we have NOW ...

lets look at 'reality' not the crypto market ...

a company is formed which has something that the others dont ... it makes HUGE amounts of money ... not just with the product - but by hedging the profits margins to BOTH sides of the fence ... internal and external ...

is there something wrong with that? ... let me mention a few words that you are very familiar with that have done this over and over and over again ... ready? ...

MICROSOFT - who not only took ideas and code from the linux community to make its pathetic excuse for an operating system REMOTELY stable - it made MILLIONS then BILLIONS on it ... ALL PRIVATE - ALL THEIR MONEY ...

IBM - had products in the form of computers AND the technologies that controlled them ... sold their products to NOT ONLY the US - but germany and the nazis in time of MAJOR crisis ... called a WAR in case you didnt know ... what did they make? ... MILLIONS then BILLIONS and now TRILLIONS ...

what you are talking about is FREE ENTERPRISE ... not against the law and certainly NOT to hurt anyone - not in the crypto community anyway ...

in fact - all thats happening now is that the 'community' is just banding together and HELPING with the proposed development of certain things on the market at the moment ...

MOST of the devs dont get paid ONE RED CENT for their effort ... they do it all for FREE ...

if i had the money to employ them and PAY for the effort they put in - i would happily - and a damn good salary at that ...

i certainly wouldnt whine like a bitch in heat because 'im not getting what THEY are getting - and i want it ALL for FREE' ...

really? ...

look at what you are saying ... its THEIR coding ffs ...

dont like it? deal with it ... whine all you want - but they are doing NOTHING more than doing what they do best ... CODE ... and mostly for FREE ... not breaking the law ... sheesh mate! ...

whats DISGUSTING is not the 'blind' community - its the bald faced greed that a few in the 'community' have for things that dont rightly belong to them ...

and that bensam IS the coding and time and effort of the devs ... without them - we ALL wouldnt have a bloody thing to mine NOR trade NOR exchange NOR cash out to fill our own pockets ...

DAMN i cant believe some of the complete drivel that im seeing in the forums today ...

how about THANKING the devs ... really ... its not hard to do ... its as simple as tying on your keyboard the word THANKYOU or DONATING ( there is that misunderstood word again ) or buying them a damn BEER if you ever get the pleasure of meeting these talented individuals ...

im done on the matter ...

as for ASICS and algos and the like ... FORWARD with the technology ...

it might not be 'fair' as to how fast its moving - but hell - better to move forward and advance than to light torches in the middle of the night and use a pitchfork and rope to kill witches ...

#crysx


Title: Re: neoscrypt algo for ccminer and nvidia card: call for donation
Post by: chrysophylax on January 14, 2015, 10:57:05 AM
I have never sold a kernal, and I keep pushing the hash upwards for free. I've got some donations though, but less than 0.4 BTC

my point EXACTLY ...

sp - you will be getting a lot more when my farm is done mate ...

tanx for all the work you have done ...

#crysx


Title: Re: neoscrypt algo for ccminer and nvidia card: call for donation
Post by: chrysophylax on January 14, 2015, 10:59:29 AM
actually no matter what we do and how we do it, there will be always someone to complain...

And loads of people who appreciate whatever you're doing for the community :D Don't forget about us ;)

They haven't done anything for the community dude! That's how messed up this is.

They make private kernels, sell them to big miners, who then push your shares of whatever coin you're mining down to absolutely nothing, then they sell them to you after the big miners so you can be remotely competitive with the miners they already sold their kernels to!

You don't even know if you're getting the fastest version of the miner and they're planning on doing this all over again. So in a month or so after they sell their next 'newest' kernel to the big miners, which push down your income to absolutely nothing, they sell it back to you. Income for coins is pretty much proportional, it's a pie or a percentage and it's all based off your hashrate, which varies with kernels. You can't get ahead of someone else without a better kernel and they're making a business model off of cutting your profits and then selling them back to you.

Some of you are so blind this is disgusting, they're openly swindling you over and over again and you're thanking them for it because all you can see is +hashrate, which is not how mining works.

Why do I have a problem with this not being professional? Because you can't make well informed decisions off someone selling you a eighth of crack out of the back of someones van. You don't have a open market you can actually compare wares on. What if you could get Wolfs version of this miner which has double the hashrate, but only costs 10% more? Would you even bother with this? No, you wouldn't, but you can't tell because of the way they're operating things. There is no competition, there isn't a open market for private kernels, there is no 'product' here, it's just giving a random guy money for whatever he feels like giving you.

What's wrong with a % based miner with continued support? They don't want to do it cause it's work and then they can't do what I already outlined by selling their kernels over and over again maximizing their profits off unknowing victims, it's a scam.


Asic 'resistant' coins need a solid algorithm so this can't happen. Protection against ASICs and private kernels. This is exactly what happened with ASICs, only now we're talking about private kernels instead of ASICs.
zzzzzzzzzzzz get a hobby (or a hobbit since you are a troll  ;D) ,
the only who got scammed in that story are the developers who spent time working on something for practically nothing for ungrateful moron like you, who will tell you "fuck you asshole" rather "thank you for your work". That's the real story.
There is no competition ? Feel free to join nobody forbid you. (and implement your dev %fee crap you are asking, I will be happy to pay you a fee for it  ;D)

I don't know how you think software development work, but you have microsoft who have been selling the exact same product for 30 year with update (as well as any other software companies). May-be you should troll on their forum and tell them they are scamming everybody because they sell windows 8.1 but have already windows 20.1... that's the exact same thing. That's call improvement, unfortunately you don't get full speed right away, new piece of code, new idea have to be found.
(get your hand dirty and join the competition... you will see that it isn't that easy...)

But I guess there is no point in answering you, you know very well you are just trolling, at least I hope for you you are not that stupid in real life  ;D


+1 ... and then some djm ...

#crysx


Title: Re: neoscrypt algo for ccminer and nvidia card: call for donation
Post by: Bombadil on January 14, 2015, 11:34:26 AM
Poor newbie, getting demotivated from the start: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=923905.msg10149772#msg10149772 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=923905.msg10149772#msg10149772)
The first month I got in (a year ago), I heard about private kernels too. But it didn't stop me from playing with this ;) Thought me a lot about the monetary systems, (crypto-)trading, the blockchain and it got me back to programming. Now I'm going back to college (was a dropout) and study IT like I mean it. So whatever happened to altcoins & other crypto, and how much of a mess it is these days, I learned great things from it :)
So never get demotivated guys, crypto is great and it's still in it's infancy. Each time we try, it just gets a little better. Each step we climb is one more step up the ladder. Hashcash, Bitcoin and the other oldies, made big leaps and as long as we altcoin miners (go go cudaminers!) keep our shit together, crypto has a bright future :)

So, enough preaching against trolls, can we get back to hashes and nonces?


Title: Re: neoscrypt algo for ccminer and nvidia card: call for donation
Post by: chrysophylax on January 14, 2015, 11:55:46 AM
Poor newbie, getting demotivated from the start: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=923905.msg10149772#msg10149772 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=923905.msg10149772#msg10149772)
The first month I got in (a year ago), I heard about private kernels too. But it didn't stop me from playing with this ;) Thought me a lot about the monetary systems, (crypto-)trading, the blockchain and it got me back to programming. Now I'm going back to college (was a dropout) and study IT like I mean it. So whatever happened to altcoins & other crypto, and how much of a mess it is these days, I learned great things from it :)
So never get demotivated guys, crypto is great and it's still in it's infancy. Each time we try, it just gets a little better. Each step we climb is one more step up the ladder. Hashcash, Bitcoin and the other oldies, made big leaps and as long as we altcoin miners (go go cudaminers!) keep our shit together, crypto has a bright future :)

So, enough preaching against trolls, can we get back to hashes and nonces?


im in awe of some of the things that you devs do ...

i studied c++ in its beginnings when i was in uni - but dropped out ...

it was awesome then - its awesome now ... wish i would have completed it all now ...

but - networkign and infrastructure and server / system building and roll out ...

i like what i do - and have no issue being called a miner - or cryptohead ...

thats me ...

now where is the nest mining system i gotta build? ...

#crysx


Title: Re: neoscrypt algo for ccminer and nvidia card: call for donation
Post by: tbearhere on January 14, 2015, 03:40:28 PM
I have never sold a kernal, and I keep pushing the hash upwards for free. I've got some donations though, but less than 0.4 BTC

my point EXACTLY ...

sp - you will be getting a lot more when my farm is done mate ...

tanx for all the work you have done ...

#crysx
BTC at $ 196
Its funny, why didnt you get the 970 gtx  a lot less mobo.


Title: Re: neoscrypt algo for ccminer and nvidia card: call for donation
Post by: djm34 on January 14, 2015, 09:11:04 PM
New hashrates:

980:   495kh/s  520kh/s
780ti: 231kh/s
750ti: 142kh/s  148kh/s
(getting a bit messy... though)


Title: Re: neoscrypt algo for ccminer and nvidia card: call for donation
Post by: GreatOrchid on January 14, 2015, 11:10:27 PM
with btc price dropping maybe we can get this out soon

sometimes the needs of the many outweight the needs of the few/1

just reminds me of those asic bastards raping every miner and them getting every drop they could outta miners

and i would surly donate after mining with this not that that will seemingly happen

what about us buying the software that the way real software is sold not holding everyone hostage till your ransom is met i dont care what crowdfuck is called it smells

free this crap let us buy it like any othersoftware or just release it 8)


Title: Re: neoscrypt algo for ccminer and nvidia card: call for donation
Post by: djm34 on January 15, 2015, 12:02:31 AM
with btc price dropping maybe we can get this out soon
May-be it is an occasion to donate more (or just donate)

sometimes the needs of the many outweight the needs of the few/1
If they don't donate, it means they don't need it...

just reminds me of those asic bastards raping every miner and them getting every drop they could outta miners

and i would surly donate after mining with this not that that will seemingly happen

what about us buying the software that the way real software is sold not holding everyone hostage till your ransom is met i dont care what crowdfuck is called it smells
free this crap let us buy it like any othersoftware or just release it 8)
ok so you would donate after mining (you would may-be... not other), or you want to buy... but actually you don't want crowdfunding...  ;D
Well you can still donate now and I spare you the need to donate later... this way you will also have the feeling of buying it a bit...

ps: when someone sell a software, then it is outrage everywhere... when someone propose to crowdfund then they want to buy....  ::)



Title: Re: neoscrypt algo for ccminer and nvidia card: call for donation
Post by: chrysophylax on January 15, 2015, 12:36:15 AM
I have never sold a kernal, and I keep pushing the hash upwards for free. I've got some donations though, but less than 0.4 BTC

my point EXACTLY ...

sp - you will be getting a lot more when my farm is done mate ...

tanx for all the work you have done ...

#crysx
BTC at $ 196
Its funny, why didnt you get the 970 gtx  a lot less mobo.

my issue is not hashing power or space ... my issue is electricity and fiat cost ... limited by a large 80Amp fuse at the side of the building - and now a circuit breaker giving me 17Amps LESS ( 63Amp circuit breaker ) ...

as well as price of the cards - it was a no brainer here ...

750ti cards are awesome for power consumption and hash power ...

the newer cards that nvidia are bringing out that everyone is talking about will draw a little more power - but will cost more than double-triple the price ...

im happy with the initial investment of the farm and ALL of the cards are stock clocks - so no heavy wear on them ...

eg - gigabyte gtx 750ti oc 2GB low profile non-powered = $179 retail ( i buy them a little cheaper in bulk - but just for example ) ... gigabyte gtx 970 oc ( wf3oc ) = $509 retail ...

fiat and electricity are major factors here - so after extensive testing here the 750ti is a far better option ...

anyway - thats about to grow much bigger again - and i have rolled out sp's latest  that i have compiled - 29 ) on all the machines so far ...

tested all stable on x11 and quark ... approx values on stock clocks are - 5230MH quark and 2730MH x11 ... no tweaks - no oc - all under fedora 19 linux x64 and compiled with the same ...

this is the main reason why i am eager to try the neoscrypt miner djm is working on ... have a soft spot for ftc ...

i know - call me crazy ...

#crysx


Title: Re: neoscrypt algo for ccminer and nvidia card: call for donation
Post by: chrysophylax on January 15, 2015, 12:40:18 AM
with btc price dropping maybe we can get this out soon
May-be it is an occasion to donate more (or just donate)

sometimes the needs of the many outweight the needs of the few/1
If they don't donate, it means they don't need it...

just reminds me of those asic bastards raping every miner and them getting every drop they could outta miners

and i would surly donate after mining with this not that that will seemingly happen

what about us buying the software that the way real software is sold not holding everyone hostage till your ransom is met i dont care what crowdfuck is called it smells
free this crap let us buy it like any othersoftware or just release it 8)
ok so you would donate after mining (you would may-be... not other), or you want to buy... but actually you don't want crowdfunding...  ;D
Well you can still donate now and I spare you the need to donate later... this way you will also have the feeling of buying it a bit...

ps: when someone sell a software, then it is outrage everywhere... when someone propose to crowdfund then they want to buy....  ::)



djm - its all about pleasing no one - or every one ... and that cant happen ...

ive backed and donated - so have many others ...

just plough through the plan that was started and intended and all will be ok ...

it will mean that you are true to your word ( which most of us know is true anyway ) AND that you are consistent with the plan ...

the rest is pure noise ...

#crysx


Title: Re: neoscrypt algo for ccminer and nvidia card: call for donation
Post by: djm34 on January 15, 2015, 02:50:42 AM
New hashrates:

980:   495kh/s  520kh/s                         tdp 106% temp  69°C
780ti: 231kh/s  235kh/s                                81%          72°C
750ti: 142kh/s  148kh/s 153kh/s                     95%          53°C
(getting a bit messy... though)
something strange, I added a kernel to do some test and even though it wasn't used anywhere it was costing me 10kh/s on the 980...  ???


Title: Re: neoscrypt algo for ccminer and nvidia card: call for donation
Post by: chrysophylax on January 15, 2015, 03:49:47 AM
New hashrates:

980:   495kh/s  520kh/s                         tdp 106% temp  69°C
780ti: 231kh/s  235kh/s                                81%          72°C
750ti: 142kh/s  148kh/s 153kh/s                     95%          53°C
(getting a bit messy... though)
something strange, I added a kernel to do some test and even though it wasn't used anywhere it was costing me 10kh/s on the 980...  ???


nice ... the 750ti seems to be increasing in jumps ...

is this with overclocking or stock clocks? ... what cards is it your are testing it with djm? ...

tanx ...

#crysx


Title: Re: neoscrypt algo for ccminer and nvidia card: call for donation
Post by: tbearhere on January 15, 2015, 10:34:26 AM
I have never sold a kernal, and I keep pushing the hash upwards for free. I've got some donations though, but less than 0.4 BTC

my point EXACTLY ...

sp - you will be getting a lot more when my farm is done mate ...

tanx for all the work you have done ...

#crysx
BTC at $ 196
Its funny, why didnt you get the 970 gtx  a lot less mobo.

my issue is not hashing power or space ... my issue is electricity and fiat cost ... limited by a large 80Amp fuse at the side of the building - and now a circuit breaker giving me 17Amps LESS ( 63Amp circuit breaker ) ...

as well as price of the cards - it was a no brainer here ...

750ti cards are awesome for power consumption and hash power ...

the newer cards that nvidia are bringing out that everyone is talking about will draw a little more power - but will cost more than double-triple the price ...

im happy with the initial investment of the farm and ALL of the cards are stock clocks - so no heavy wear on them ...

eg - gigabyte gtx 750ti oc 2GB low profile non-powered = $179 retail ( i buy them a little cheaper in bulk - but just for example ) ... gigabyte gtx 970 oc ( wf3oc ) = $509 retail ...

fiat and electricity are major factors here - so after extensive testing here the 750ti is a far better option ...

anyway - thats about to grow much bigger again - and i have rolled out sp's latest  that i have compiled - 29 ) on all the machines so far ...

tested all stable on x11 and quark ... approx values on stock clocks are - 5230MH quark and 2730MH x11 ... no tweaks - no oc - all under fedora 19 linux x64 and compiled with the same ...

this is the main reason why i am eager to try the neoscrypt miner djm is working on ... have a soft spot for ftc ...

i know - call me crazy ...

#crysx
The 970 is $335 = 2.8 750ti's at the same power consumption 28nm technology. The 750ti is the best card and the 970 is 2.8 750ti's. I was or am going to make one more rig. It will be 6 970's or 6 960's if the 960's come with 16nm technology. I mined for this rig all summer and have .6 btc  so it will be money out of pocket. All I mined for went to my 750ti rig, cards, etc. So i'm waiting to see the 960 and can't wait to try the neoscrypt djm is working on.  :)


Title: Re: neoscrypt algo for ccminer and nvidia card: call for donation
Post by: djm34 on January 15, 2015, 11:34:38 AM
I have never sold a kernal, and I keep pushing the hash upwards for free. I've got some donations though, but less than 0.4 BTC

my point EXACTLY ...

sp - you will be getting a lot more when my farm is done mate ...

tanx for all the work you have done ...

#crysx
BTC at $ 196
Its funny, why didnt you get the 970 gtx  a lot less mobo.

my issue is not hashing power or space ... my issue is electricity and fiat cost ... limited by a large 80Amp fuse at the side of the building - and now a circuit breaker giving me 17Amps LESS ( 63Amp circuit breaker ) ...

as well as price of the cards - it was a no brainer here ...

750ti cards are awesome for power consumption and hash power ...

the newer cards that nvidia are bringing out that everyone is talking about will draw a little more power - but will cost more than double-triple the price ...

im happy with the initial investment of the farm and ALL of the cards are stock clocks - so no heavy wear on them ...

eg - gigabyte gtx 750ti oc 2GB low profile non-powered = $179 retail ( i buy them a little cheaper in bulk - but just for example ) ... gigabyte gtx 970 oc ( wf3oc ) = $509 retail ...

fiat and electricity are major factors here - so after extensive testing here the 750ti is a far better option ...

anyway - thats about to grow much bigger again - and i have rolled out sp's latest  that i have compiled - 29 ) on all the machines so far ...

tested all stable on x11 and quark ... approx values on stock clocks are - 5230MH quark and 2730MH x11 ... no tweaks - no oc - all under fedora 19 linux x64 and compiled with the same ...

this is the main reason why i am eager to try the neoscrypt miner djm is working on ... have a soft spot for ftc ...

i know - call me crazy ...

#crysx
The 970 is $335 = 2.8 750ti's at the same power consumption 28nm technology. The 750ti is the best card and the 970 is 2.8 750ti's. I was or am going to make one more rig. It will be 6 970's or 6 960's if the 960's come with 16nm technology. I mined for this rig all summer and have .6 btc  so it will be money out of pocket. All I mined for went to my 750ti rig, cards, etc. So i'm waiting to see the 960 and can't wait to try the neoscrypt djm is working on.  :)
0.6btc... honestly I wouldn't build a new rig...


Title: Re: neoscrypt algo for ccminer and nvidia card: call for donation
Post by: chrysophylax on January 15, 2015, 12:29:07 PM
I have never sold a kernal, and I keep pushing the hash upwards for free. I've got some donations though, but less than 0.4 BTC

my point EXACTLY ...

sp - you will be getting a lot more when my farm is done mate ...

tanx for all the work you have done ...

#crysx
BTC at $ 196
Its funny, why didnt you get the 970 gtx  a lot less mobo.

my issue is not hashing power or space ... my issue is electricity and fiat cost ... limited by a large 80Amp fuse at the side of the building - and now a circuit breaker giving me 17Amps LESS ( 63Amp circuit breaker ) ...

as well as price of the cards - it was a no brainer here ...

750ti cards are awesome for power consumption and hash power ...

the newer cards that nvidia are bringing out that everyone is talking about will draw a little more power - but will cost more than double-triple the price ...

im happy with the initial investment of the farm and ALL of the cards are stock clocks - so no heavy wear on them ...

eg - gigabyte gtx 750ti oc 2GB low profile non-powered = $179 retail ( i buy them a little cheaper in bulk - but just for example ) ... gigabyte gtx 970 oc ( wf3oc ) = $509 retail ...

fiat and electricity are major factors here - so after extensive testing here the 750ti is a far better option ...

anyway - thats about to grow much bigger again - and i have rolled out sp's latest  that i have compiled - 29 ) on all the machines so far ...

tested all stable on x11 and quark ... approx values on stock clocks are - 5230MH quark and 2730MH x11 ... no tweaks - no oc - all under fedora 19 linux x64 and compiled with the same ...

this is the main reason why i am eager to try the neoscrypt miner djm is working on ... have a soft spot for ftc ...

i know - call me crazy ...

#crysx
The 970 is $335 = 2.8 750ti's at the same power consumption 28nm technology. The 750ti is the best card and the 970 is 2.8 750ti's. I was or am going to make one more rig. It will be 6 970's or 6 960's if the 960's come with 16nm technology. I mined for this rig all summer and have .6 btc  so it will be money out of pocket. All I mined for went to my 750ti rig, cards, etc. So i'm waiting to see the 960 and can't wait to try the neoscrypt djm is working on.  :)
0.6btc... honestly I wouldn't build a new rig...

i have to share sentiments with djm ...

at .6btc - that is almost moot compared to a new system ...

ive had the systems running for over a year - and made the cash as well as a nice stash of various coins ... so for me - an 'upgrade' is a long overdue thing ...

though here in australia - almost EVERYTHING here is so much more expensive - even with the currency conversion ...

the only way to make 'money' here - and we are talking about fiat - is to mine and trade - or buy and trade ... or build a huge farm that will get optimized and start mining HUGE amounts for yourself ... or cloud mine of course ...

as for the 970 - it STILL requires power connectors and the logistics behind setting an entire farm up is huge - which i wasnt ( and still am not ) willing to go through the trouble ... these 750ti cards are a plug and play scenario - easy and SO much less cabling and stuffing around with the farm ... one machine - yes ... 40 machines ( which is what it will be soon ) - not for me ...

ive already sold half of the 280x / 290x / 6990 cards and have the others to offload in the next week ...

i need the easier way out ... so its an easy upgrade path too ... maybe all those years in corporate server rooms and datacenters has brainwashed me into taking the easy upgrade path - plug n play scenario - even at a small loss ;) ... hehehe ...

anyway - i hope you make the right decision with the cards and the rigs - and never go over and above what you can afford to LOSE ...

let us know how it goes for you ...

#crysx


Title: Re: neoscrypt algo for ccminer and nvidia card: call for donation
Post by: kaltar on January 15, 2015, 06:01:18 PM
Hey djm34,
just wondering what your up to in donations. ? if your getting close to your goal, might help people to donate the rest a bit faster ..


Title: Re: neoscrypt algo for ccminer and nvidia card: call for donation
Post by: Bombadil on January 15, 2015, 06:13:08 PM
Hey djm34,
just wondering what your up to in donations. ? if your getting close to your goal, might help people to donate the rest a bit faster ..

https://blockchain.info/address/18UZRrybgjmR4M53Aca4Q8YBguqErZ5qaP (https://blockchain.info/address/18UZRrybgjmR4M53Aca4Q8YBguqErZ5qaP)


Title: Re: neoscrypt algo for ccminer and nvidia card: call for donation
Post by: StuffOfInterest on January 15, 2015, 07:58:55 PM
Hey djm34,
just wondering what your up to in donations. ? if your getting close to your goal, might help people to donate the rest a bit faster ..

https://blockchain.info/address/18UZRrybgjmR4M53Aca4Q8YBguqErZ5qaP (https://blockchain.info/address/18UZRrybgjmR4M53Aca4Q8YBguqErZ5qaP)

Heh, 10% there.  I don't think we are going to see a public release on this unless a generous benefactor comes along. 

From the numbers I've seen posted lately, this miner is going to be competitive with some of the other algorithms out there right now.  Quark has been paying best lately but NeoScript could be as high or higher than X11 on YAAMP.

--Donator #5


Title: Re: neoscrypt algo for ccminer and nvidia card: call for donation
Post by: djm34 on January 15, 2015, 08:50:49 PM
Hey djm34,
just wondering what your up to in donations. ? if your getting close to your goal, might help people to donate the rest a bit faster ..

https://blockchain.info/address/18UZRrybgjmR4M53Aca4Q8YBguqErZ5qaP (https://blockchain.info/address/18UZRrybgjmR4M53Aca4Q8YBguqErZ5qaP)

Heh, 10% there.  I don't think we are going to see a public release on this unless a generous benefactor comes along. 

From the numbers I've seen posted lately, this miner is going to be competitive with some of the other algorithms out there right now.  Quark has been paying best lately but NeoScript could be as high or higher than X11 on YAAMP.

--Donator #5
yep... not a lot... and you have to remove 0.05btc, I refunded to Carl Sagan..


Title: Re: neoscrypt algo for ccminer and nvidia card: call for donation
Post by: chrysophylax on January 16, 2015, 02:00:04 AM
Hey djm34,
just wondering what your up to in donations. ? if your getting close to your goal, might help people to donate the rest a bit faster ..

https://blockchain.info/address/18UZRrybgjmR4M53Aca4Q8YBguqErZ5qaP (https://blockchain.info/address/18UZRrybgjmR4M53Aca4Q8YBguqErZ5qaP)

Heh, 10% there.  I don't think we are going to see a public release on this unless a generous benefactor comes along. 

From the numbers I've seen posted lately, this miner is going to be competitive with some of the other algorithms out there right now.  Quark has been paying best lately but NeoScript could be as high or higher than X11 on YAAMP.

--Donator #5
yep... not a lot... and you have to remove 0.05btc, I refunded to Carl Sagan..

finally ... you mean we wont get to hear from him here again? ...

hehehe ...

anyway - hope its coming along well djm ... would luv to see it run in full form on the farm ...

for the time being - its x11 and quark for this little miner ...

#crysx


Title: Re: neoscrypt algo for ccminer and nvidia card: call for donation
Post by: tbearhere on January 16, 2015, 02:28:36 AM
I have never sold a kernal, and I keep pushing the hash upwards for free. I've got some donations though, but less than 0.4 BTC

my point EXACTLY ...

sp - you will be getting a lot more when my farm is done mate ...

tanx for all the work you have done ...

#crysx
BTC at $ 196
Its funny, why didnt you get the 970 gtx  a lot less mobo.

my issue is not hashing power or space ... my issue is electricity and fiat cost ... limited by a large 80Amp fuse at the side of the building - and now a circuit breaker giving me 17Amps LESS ( 63Amp circuit breaker ) ...

as well as price of the cards - it was a no brainer here ...

750ti cards are awesome for power consumption and hash power ...

the newer cards that nvidia are bringing out that everyone is talking about will draw a little more power - but will cost more than double-triple the price ...

im happy with the initial investment of the farm and ALL of the cards are stock clocks - so no heavy wear on them ...

eg - gigabyte gtx 750ti oc 2GB low profile non-powered = $179 retail ( i buy them a little cheaper in bulk - but just for example ) ... gigabyte gtx 970 oc ( wf3oc ) = $509 retail ...

fiat and electricity are major factors here - so after extensive testing here the 750ti is a far better option ...

anyway - thats about to grow much bigger again - and i have rolled out sp's latest  that i have compiled - 29 ) on all the machines so far ...

tested all stable on x11 and quark ... approx values on stock clocks are - 5230MH quark and 2730MH x11 ... no tweaks - no oc - all under fedora 19 linux x64 and compiled with the same ...

this is the main reason why i am eager to try the neoscrypt miner djm is working on ... have a soft spot for ftc ...

i know - call me crazy ...

#crysx
The 970 is $335 = 2.8 750ti's at the same power consumption 28nm technology. The 750ti is the best card and the 970 is 2.8 750ti's. I was or am going to make one more rig. It will be 6 970's or 6 960's if the 960's come with 16nm technology. I mined for this rig all summer and have .6 btc  so it will be money out of pocket. All I mined for went to my 750ti rig, cards, etc. So i'm waiting to see the 960 and can't wait to try the neoscrypt djm is working on.  :)
0.6btc... honestly I wouldn't build a new rig...
No I took every btc I made and bought mining equipment. Started out with a gtx 640 and when btc was $550 and falling fast, I missed the $1000 btc time started mining  in April.


Title: Re: neoscrypt algo for ccminer and nvidia card: call for donation
Post by: chrysophylax on January 16, 2015, 11:31:24 AM
I have never sold a kernal, and I keep pushing the hash upwards for free. I've got some donations though, but less than 0.4 BTC

my point EXACTLY ...

sp - you will be getting a lot more when my farm is done mate ...

tanx for all the work you have done ...

#crysx
BTC at $ 196
Its funny, why didnt you get the 970 gtx  a lot less mobo.

my issue is not hashing power or space ... my issue is electricity and fiat cost ... limited by a large 80Amp fuse at the side of the building - and now a circuit breaker giving me 17Amps LESS ( 63Amp circuit breaker ) ...

as well as price of the cards - it was a no brainer here ...

750ti cards are awesome for power consumption and hash power ...

the newer cards that nvidia are bringing out that everyone is talking about will draw a little more power - but will cost more than double-triple the price ...

im happy with the initial investment of the farm and ALL of the cards are stock clocks - so no heavy wear on them ...

eg - gigabyte gtx 750ti oc 2GB low profile non-powered = $179 retail ( i buy them a little cheaper in bulk - but just for example ) ... gigabyte gtx 970 oc ( wf3oc ) = $509 retail ...

fiat and electricity are major factors here - so after extensive testing here the 750ti is a far better option ...

anyway - thats about to grow much bigger again - and i have rolled out sp's latest  that i have compiled - 29 ) on all the machines so far ...

tested all stable on x11 and quark ... approx values on stock clocks are - 5230MH quark and 2730MH x11 ... no tweaks - no oc - all under fedora 19 linux x64 and compiled with the same ...

this is the main reason why i am eager to try the neoscrypt miner djm is working on ... have a soft spot for ftc ...

i know - call me crazy ...

#crysx
The 970 is $335 = 2.8 750ti's at the same power consumption 28nm technology. The 750ti is the best card and the 970 is 2.8 750ti's. I was or am going to make one more rig. It will be 6 970's or 6 960's if the 960's come with 16nm technology. I mined for this rig all summer and have .6 btc  so it will be money out of pocket. All I mined for went to my 750ti rig, cards, etc. So i'm waiting to see the 960 and can't wait to try the neoscrypt djm is working on.  :)
0.6btc... honestly I wouldn't build a new rig...
No I took every btc I made and bought mining equipment. Started out with a gtx 640 and when btc was $550 and falling fast, I missed the $1000 btc time started mining  in April.

nice ... its what i did also ...

i missed the whole $1100btc price hike also ... i was mining ltc at the time - so made a bit on that - it hit $42USD from memory ...

but mining it to cash in was never my intention in the first place ...

it was to purchase mroe mining equipemnt with the coins also - which is why the whole crypto mining was started in the first place - to replace the need for fiat ...

either way - we seem to have been doing the same thing ... just on different scales ...

#crysx


Title: Re: neoscrypt algo for ccminer and nvidia card: call for donation
Post by: djm34 on January 18, 2015, 02:12:04 PM
I posted the ad to the feathercoin forum and discovers there are mostly a bunch of morons on a completely deserted forum...
Not only they don't give anything, but worst they ask someone else to do the job  ::)

Why I am working on neoscrypt is clearly a mystery... (from that perspective)


Title: Re: neoscrypt algo for ccminer and nvidia card: call for donation
Post by: ghostlander on January 18, 2015, 03:19:26 PM
I posted the ad to the feathercoin forum and discovers there are mostly a bunch of morons on a completely deserted forum...
Not only they don't give anything, but worst they ask someone else to do the job  ::)

Why I am working on neoscrypt is clearly a mystery... (from that perspective)

It's rude and unprofessional to say this because the people there aren't up to your expectations.

Private kernel sales may be a source of income, but they don't improve reputation. Crypto is open source in the 1st place, therefore people expect some code before they donate, not after as you'd like. Asking them for donations, receiving some and saying the following is far from fair.

Quote from: djm34
He better work on it, because with current state of donation, no way I open source my software.


Title: Re: neoscrypt algo for ccminer and nvidia card: call for donation
Post by: djm34 on January 18, 2015, 03:23:31 PM
I posted the ad to the feathercoin forum and discovers there are mostly a bunch of morons on a completely deserted forum...
Not only they don't give anything, but worst they ask someone else to do the job  ::)

Why I am working on neoscrypt is clearly a mystery... (from that perspective)

It's rude and unprofessional to say this because the people there aren't up to your expectations.

Private kernel sales may be a source of income, but they don't improve reputation. Crypto is open source in the 1st place, therefore people expect some code before they donate, not after as you'd like. Asking them for donations, receiving some and saying the following is far from fair.

Quote from: djm34
He better work on it, because with current state of donation, no way I open source my software.

well... those who donate will get the program not the other (as planned unfortunately)

edit: speaking of rude and unprofessional, this is rather your thing with your comments to that same thread.
(and the hijack of neoscrypt coins...  ;D so please you are not the one who should say that...)

Quote from: ghostlander
I'd prefer to create a fast OpenCL kernel for NVIDIA rather than CUDA based. It's easier to maintain and debug for me at least. If we manage to crowdfund the hardware cost, the rest is my business. I think GTX 750 Ti doesn't qualify for this job alone because miners compare by high end cards. There is no guarantee a kernel optimised for a low end or mainstream card performs the best for a high end one.

and on top of that you are a hypocrite as you are asking on my thread to crowdfund your gpus
(so basically you are asking for 2.5btc upfront before you can even start and he doesn't want a 750ti ;D)
Why don't you buy them and expect people to donate once you released the program.  





Title: Re: neoscrypt algo for ccminer and nvidia card: call for donation
Post by: ghostlander on January 18, 2015, 04:48:55 PM
edit: speaking of rude and unprofessional, this is rather your thing with your comments to that same thread.
(and the hijack of neoscrypt coins...  ;D so please you are not the one who should say that...)

Do me and the others a favour and elaborate what you call "the hijack of neoscrypt coins".

and on top of that you are a hypocrite as you are asking on my thread to crowdfund your gpus
(so basically you are asking for 2.5btc upfront before you can even start and he doesn't want a 750ti ;D)
Why don't you buy them and expect people to donate once you released the program.  

Because it's quite obvious I cannot deliver a fast kernel for GTX 980 using a GTX 750 Ti only. These are two different cards based on two different GPUs, though of the same Maxwell architecture. In addition, the card getting crowdfunded doesn't become my sole property. Compare to your demands now and start acting like an adult rather than a spoiled child.


Title: Re: neoscrypt algo for ccminer and nvidia card: call for donation
Post by: djm34 on January 18, 2015, 05:00:05 PM
edit: speaking of rude and unprofessional, this is rather your thing with your comments to that same thread.
(and the hijack of neoscrypt coins...  ;D so please you are not the one who should say that...)

Do me and the others a favour and elaborate what you call "the hijack of neoscrypt coins".

and on top of that you are a hypocrite as you are asking on my thread to crowdfund your gpus
(so basically you are asking for 2.5btc upfront before you can even start and he doesn't want a 750ti ;D)
Why don't you buy them and expect people to donate once you released the program.  

Because it's quite obvious I cannot deliver a fast kernel for GTX 980 using a GTX 750 Ti only. These are two different cards based on two different GPUs, though of the same Maxwell architecture. In addition, the card getting crowdfunded doesn't become my sole property.
Come on !!!  ;D Please don't take readers for complete idiot, this is insulting  ;D

Regarding the hijack of neoscrypt coin, you made threads for neoscrypt coins you didn't even release (well I hope...) not even pointing to the original or referencing the original thread...  ::) yeah hijack is the best definition...

You brag about being able to do this and that in opencl while most of the people don't even use your kernel as they used a kernel released by Wolf0 most likely
better. (yeah, I may-be acting a bit like a spoil child right now... ;D this is what happen when someone come to brag to a thread I created to say he can do better, while not having seen the code, and not even owning proper hardware to do the job... )




Title: Re: neoscrypt algo for ccminer and nvidia card: call for donation
Post by: ghostlander on January 18, 2015, 05:10:36 PM
edit: speaking of rude and unprofessional, this is rather your thing with your comments to that same thread.
(and the hijack of neoscrypt coins...  ;D so please you are not the one who should say that...)

Do me and the others a favour and elaborate what you call "the hijack of neoscrypt coins".

and on top of that you are a hypocrite as you are asking on my thread to crowdfund your gpus
(so basically you are asking for 2.5btc upfront before you can even start and he doesn't want a 750ti ;D)
Why don't you buy them and expect people to donate once you released the program.  

Because it's quite obvious I cannot deliver a fast kernel for GTX 980 using a GTX 750 Ti only. These are two different cards based on two different GPUs, though of the same Maxwell architecture. In addition, the card getting crowdfunded doesn't become my sole property.
Come on !!!  ;D Please don't take readers for complete idiot, this is insulting  ;D

Regarding the hijack of neoscrypt coin, you made threads for neoscrypt coins you didn't even release (well I hope...) not even pointing to the original or referencing the original thread...  ::) yeah hijack is the best definition...

You brag about being able to do this and that in opencl while most of the people don't even use your kernel as they used a kernel released by Wolf0 most likely
better. (yeah, I may-be acting a bit like a spoil child...  ;D )

What threads are you talking about? Seems you haven't got your prescriptions right today...

Wolf0's kernel is for the GCN powered Radeons. My kernel is for the older VLIW5/VLIW4 powered Radeons. It's already 10x faster than the reference kernel.


Title: Re: neoscrypt algo for ccminer and nvidia card: call for donation
Post by: djm34 on January 18, 2015, 05:18:12 PM
edit: speaking of rude and unprofessional, this is rather your thing with your comments to that same thread.
(and the hijack of neoscrypt coins...  ;D so please you are not the one who should say that...)

Do me and the others a favour and elaborate what you call "the hijack of neoscrypt coins".

and on top of that you are a hypocrite as you are asking on my thread to crowdfund your gpus
(so basically you are asking for 2.5btc upfront before you can even start and he doesn't want a 750ti ;D)
Why don't you buy them and expect people to donate once you released the program.  

Because it's quite obvious I cannot deliver a fast kernel for GTX 980 using a GTX 750 Ti only. These are two different cards based on two different GPUs, though of the same Maxwell architecture. In addition, the card getting crowdfunded doesn't become my sole property.
Come on !!!  ;D Please don't take readers for complete idiot, this is insulting  ;D

Regarding the hijack of neoscrypt coin, you made threads for neoscrypt coins you didn't even release (well I hope...) not even pointing to the original or referencing the original thread...  ::) yeah hijack is the best definition...

You brag about being able to do this and that in opencl while most of the people don't even use your kernel as they used a kernel released by Wolf0 most likely
better. (yeah, I may-be acting a bit like a spoil child...  ;D )

What threads are you talking about? Seems you haven't got your prescriptions right today...

Wolf0's kernel is for the GCN powered Radeons. My kernel is for the older VLIW5/VLIW4 powered Radeons. It's already 10x faster than the reference kernel.

This thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=901149.0
Linking to other threads you made about coin you didn't developed. Is it too difficult to point to the original thread ?
(probably other spoil child if they would ever complain about the way you act with other child toys... )


Title: Re: neoscrypt algo for ccminer and nvidia card: call for donation
Post by: ghostlander on January 18, 2015, 05:35:22 PM
Come on !!!  ;D Please don't take readers for complete idiot, this is insulting  ;D

Regarding the hijack of neoscrypt coin, you made threads for neoscrypt coins you didn't even release (well I hope...) not even pointing to the original or referencing the original thread...  ::) yeah hijack is the best definition...

You brag about being able to do this and that in opencl while most of the people don't even use your kernel as they used a kernel released by Wolf0 most likely
better. (yeah, I may-be acting a bit like a spoil child...  ;D )

What threads are you talking about? Seems you haven't got your prescriptions right today...

Wolf0's kernel is for the GCN powered Radeons. My kernel is for the older VLIW5/VLIW4 powered Radeons. It's already 10x faster than the reference kernel.
This thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=901149.0
Linking to other threads you made about coin you didn't developed. Is it too difficult to point to the original thread ?
(probably other spoil child if they would ever complain about the way you act with other child toys... )

This thread is for reference only to keep all NeoScrypt coins in a single place. There are links to active forum threads for every coin listed. What's the problem?


Title: Re: neoscrypt algo for ccminer and nvidia card: call for donation
Post by: djm34 on January 18, 2015, 05:48:12 PM
Come on !!!  ;D Please don't take readers for complete idiot, this is insulting  ;D

Regarding the hijack of neoscrypt coin, you made threads for neoscrypt coins you didn't even release (well I hope...) not even pointing to the original or referencing the original thread...  ::) yeah hijack is the best definition...

You brag about being able to do this and that in opencl while most of the people don't even use your kernel as they used a kernel released by Wolf0 most likely
better. (yeah, I may-be acting a bit like a spoil child...  ;D )

What threads are you talking about? Seems you haven't got your prescriptions right today...

Wolf0's kernel is for the GCN powered Radeons. My kernel is for the older VLIW5/VLIW4 powered Radeons. It's already 10x faster than the reference kernel.
This thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=901149.0
Linking to other threads you made about coin you didn't developed. Is it too difficult to point to the original thread ?
(probably other spoil child if they would ever complain about the way you act with other child toys... )

This thread is for reference only to keep all NeoScrypt coins in a single place. There are links to active forum threads for every coin listed. What's the problem?

so you are the dev of Orbitcoin, Halcyon and Phoenix ?  (nothing else ? ) ;D
(referencing your own github for their wallet...  ::)  ;D )


Title: Re: neoscrypt algo for ccminer and nvidia card: call for donation
Post by: ghostlander on January 18, 2015, 06:07:47 PM
This thread is for reference only to keep all NeoScrypt coins in a single place. There are links to active forum threads for every coin listed. What's the problem?

so you are the dev of Orbitcoin, Halcyon and Phoenix ?  (nothing else ? ) ;D
(referencing your own github for their wallet...  ::)  ;D )

That's correct and nothing else. The original developers abandoned these coins.


Title: Re: neoscrypt algo for ccminer and nvidia card: call for donation
Post by: djm34 on January 18, 2015, 06:12:22 PM
This thread is for reference only to keep all NeoScrypt coins in a single place. There are links to active forum threads for every coin listed. What's the problem?

so you are the dev of Orbitcoin, Halcyon and Phoenix ?  (nothing else ? ) ;D
(referencing your own github for their wallet...  ::)  ;D )

That's correct and nothing else. The original developers abandoned these coins.

you clearly have a thing for neoscrypt...  ::) (or have a big bag of all of them...)
Can't you just let them die ?


Title: Re: neoscrypt algo for ccminer and nvidia card: call for donation
Post by: Bombadil on January 18, 2015, 06:32:52 PM
Can't you just let them die ?

xD LOL


Title: Re: neoscrypt algo for ccminer and nvidia card: call for donation
Post by: ghostlander on January 18, 2015, 07:43:16 PM
This thread is for reference only to keep all NeoScrypt coins in a single place. There are links to active forum threads for every coin listed. What's the problem?

so you are the dev of Orbitcoin, Halcyon and Phoenix ?  (nothing else ? ) ;D
(referencing your own github for their wallet...  ::)  ;D )

That's correct and nothing else. The original developers abandoned these coins.

you clearly have a thing for neoscrypt...  ::) (or have a big bag of all of them...)
Can't you just let them die ?

Have a thing for NeoScrypt? I have designed it. Let them die? I need something to work with.


Title: Re: neoscrypt algo for ccminer and nvidia card: call for donation
Post by: sp_ on January 18, 2015, 07:54:45 PM
Have a thing for NeoScrypt? I have designed it. Let them die? I need something to work with.

Opencl on NVIDIA cards will not run fast. Publish your improved opencl miner and I will double the speed Cuda/assembly.


Title: Re: neoscrypt algo for ccminer and nvidia card: call for donation
Post by: djm34 on January 18, 2015, 07:56:25 PM
This thread is for reference only to keep all NeoScrypt coins in a single place. There are links to active forum threads for every coin listed. What's the problem?

so you are the dev of Orbitcoin, Halcyon and Phoenix ?  (nothing else ? ) ;D
(referencing your own github for their wallet...  ::)  ;D )

That's correct and nothing else. The original developers abandoned these coins.

you clearly have a thing for neoscrypt...  ::) (or have a big bag of all of them...)
Can't you just let them die ?

Have a thing for NeoScrypt? I have designed it. Let them die? I need something to work with.

testnet is for you... (I use phoexnicoin as testnet because none of these coins have an active testnet...)
here you go, just find you something to do  ;D
(in the mean time if the screw up between pool mining and and wallet could be fixed that would be great too)


Title: Re: neoscrypt algo for ccminer and nvidia card: call for donation
Post by: djm34 on January 18, 2015, 07:58:59 PM
Have a thing for NeoScrypt? I have designed it. Let them die? I need something to work with.

Opencl on NVIDIA cards will not run fast. Publish your improved opencl miner and I will double the speed Cuda/assembler.
no point arguing about that  ;D
or he will tell you how bad is nvidia and how cuda will soon be obsolete  ;D

edit: to be fair, it is also possible to include ptx  statement with opencl


Title: Re: neoscrypt algo for ccminer and nvidia card: call for donation
Post by: sp_ on January 18, 2015, 08:03:40 PM
wolf0 already improved the original neoscrypt cl 100% faster. On the 750ti the improved cl gained 20KHASH from 20KHASH to 40KHASH.

The unpublished DJM34 cuda version is doing 160KHASH. 800% faster than the original version by the creator.


Title: Re: neoscrypt algo for ccminer and nvidia card: call for donation
Post by: ghostlander on January 18, 2015, 08:14:11 PM
Wolf0's public kernel is roughly 4x faster than Vehre's original one. That's a well done job I must say. I've made my point. Good luck whatever you do.


Title: Re: neoscrypt algo for ccminer and nvidia card: call for donation
Post by: LTCMAXMYR on January 19, 2015, 08:48:59 AM
any card get over 1M?


Title: Re: neoscrypt algo for ccminer and nvidia card: call for donation
Post by: ghostlander on January 19, 2015, 10:17:45 AM
Wolf0's public kernel is roughly 4x faster than Vehre's original one. That's a well done job I must say. I've made my point. Good luck whatever you do.

Private is around 8x faster than his on 290X.

With a global memory trick like in my last VLIW kernel? ;)


Title: Re: neoscrypt algo for ccminer and nvidia card: call for donation
Post by: djm34 on January 19, 2015, 11:54:14 AM
any card get over 1M?

that model has yet to be invented... and the program better optimized.
The fastest nvidia card gtx980 is doing with my current version: 530kh/s (OC)


Title: Re: neoscrypt algo for ccminer and nvidia card: call for donation
Post by: sp_ on January 19, 2015, 12:29:18 PM
You need to update your first post in this thread. It says that the current speed is:

980:   427kh/s


Title: Re: neoscrypt algo for ccminer and nvidia card: call for donation
Post by: djm34 on January 19, 2015, 01:19:22 PM
You need to update your first post in this thread. It says that the current speed is:

980:   427kh/s
I was expecting that people would read all posts  ;D


Title: Re: neoscrypt algo for ccminer and nvidia card: call for donation
Post by: djm34 on January 19, 2015, 06:27:29 PM
new numbers:
gtx980: 633kh/s (was 530kh/s)
gtx780: 250kh/s 300kh/s  ;D change too fast

except for the moment it works with only one card at a time  >:(


Title: Re: neoscrypt algo for ccminer and nvidia card: call for donation
Post by: kaltar on January 19, 2015, 06:45:32 PM
new numbers:
gtx980: 633kh/s (was 530kh/s)
gtx780: 250kh/s 300kh/s  ;D change too fast

except for the moment it works with only one card at a time  >:(


GREAT, i only have GTX 980  :)


Title: Re: neoscrypt algo for ccminer and nvidia card: call for donation
Post by: LTCMAXMYR on January 20, 2015, 12:38:39 AM
 :( it is no profit even 1M speed


Title: Re: neoscrypt algo for ccminer and nvidia card: call for donation
Post by: djm34 on January 20, 2015, 12:41:44 AM
finally fixed my problem, now all the cards are able to work with one instance

http://img4.hostingpics.net/pics/517266neoscryptnew.jpg


gtx980:   ~630kh/s (up to 646kh/s)  tdp: 118% temp: 73°C
gtx750ti: ~150kh/s (no amelioration strangely)  tdp: 86% temp: 55°C
gtx780ti: ~300kh/s                                       tdp: 85% temp: 75°C



Title: Re: neoscrypt algo for ccminer and nvidia card: call for donation
Post by: tbearhere on January 20, 2015, 12:29:45 PM
new numbers:
gtx980: 633kh/s (was 530kh/s)
gtx780: 250kh/s 300kh/s  ;D change too fast

except for the moment it works with only one card at a time  >:(

djm...Your working on the 970 too ..right? The 970 price per card per hash is a better deal. My next card will be the 970 or the new 960 depends on price per card per hash to electricity.  ;)


Title: Re: neoscrypt algo for ccminer and nvidia card: call for donation
Post by: djm34 on January 20, 2015, 12:33:37 PM
new numbers:
gtx980: 633kh/s (was 530kh/s)
gtx780: 250kh/s 300kh/s  ;D change too fast

except for the moment it works with only one card at a time  >:(

djm...Your working on the 970 too ..right? The 970 price per card per hash is a better deal. My next card will be the 970 or the new 960 depends on price per card per hash to electricity.  ;)
if you send me one, I can work on it...  ;D
I assume that all the 900 serie cards should behave in the same way as the 980... (at least for the 970, if the 960 is new tech a few things can differ)
(I have no plan in buying new cards at the moment... current profitability doesn't really justify it...)


Title: Re: neoscrypt algo for ccminer and nvidia card: call for donation
Post by: sp_ on January 20, 2015, 12:48:17 PM
With the current prices and a kernal that does 630KHASH, It will be 83% more profitable to mine neoscrypt than x11@9MHASH (gtx 980)

Todays price:

3BTC/GHASH neoscrypr.
0.1161BTC/GHASH x11


Title: Re: neoscrypt algo for ccminer and nvidia card: call for donation
Post by: frazier34567 on January 20, 2015, 04:29:35 PM
Jump start the Donations again.

0.1 BTC Donated.  That is 14 days of Mining Quark for me.
TxId: 8f25e50475a5923c6e896c7f28eea8f22a12508916ff2ce6ed45a75ac757da22


Title: Re: neoscrypt algo for ccminer and nvidia card: call for donation
Post by: LTCMAXMYR on January 21, 2015, 12:34:22 AM
With the current prices and a kernal that does 630KHASH, It will be 83% more profitable to mine neoscrypt than x11@9MHASH (gtx 980)

Todays price:

3BTC/GHASH neoscrypr.
0.1161BTC/GHASH x11

0.4$ per 980 card on FTC
or 0.3$ on DRK



Title: Re: neoscrypt algo for ccminer and nvidia card: call for donation
Post by: sp_ on January 21, 2015, 11:21:04 AM
With the current prices and a kernal that does 630KHASH, It will be 83% more profitable to mine neoscrypt than x11@9MHASH (gtx 980)
Todays price:
3BTC/GHASH neoscrypr.
0.1161BTC/GHASH x11
0.4$ per 980 card on FTC
or 0.3$ on DRK

the  payouts of the algorithms vary from day to day. take a look at

http://www.yaamp.com/

Yaamp is paying 0.21 BTC / GHASH for quark. ccminer release 31 does 18MHASH@quark
($0,86184 per 980 per day) Still not alot, but it's paying 3 times bether than x11.
This is why you need to use a profit switcher software to get the maximum profit.


Spreadcoin however, is paying much more.
Sign up to be a betatester. Donate 0.1 BTC I will send the first version of the private boosted miner on sunday.



Title: Re: neoscrypt algo for ccminer and nvidia card: call for donation
Post by: djm34 on January 26, 2015, 02:36:47 PM
Just send an email to all those who donated, if you didn't receive an email please pm me with the txid of your donation
if you received an email please don't  ;D.


Title: Re: neoscrypt algo for ccminer and nvidia card: call for donation
Post by: djm34 on January 26, 2015, 04:40:54 PM
Just send an email to all those who donated, if you didn't receive an email please pm me with the txid of your donation
if you received an email please don't  ;D.
also the miner has been released to those I know they donated


Title: Re: neoscrypt algo for ccminer and nvidia card: call for donation
Post by: sp_ on January 26, 2015, 05:36:57 PM
thanks. I get a boost when I delete the 2 dll files.

cudart32_65.dll
cudart64_65.dll

(i am using the 22-jan-2015 driver)

The 980 is peaking at 700KHASH with +175 on the core and 200 on memory. but average perhaps 620?


Title: Re: neoscrypt algo for ccminer and nvidia card: call for donation
Post by: djm34 on January 26, 2015, 05:41:31 PM
thanks. I get a boost when I delete the 2 dll files.

cudart32_65.dll
cudart64_65.dll

(i am using the 22-jan-2015 driver)

The 980 is peaking at 700KHASH with +175 on the core and 200 on memory
nice to know... (and strange...) is that the latest whql ?


Title: Re: neoscrypt algo for ccminer and nvidia card: call for donation
Post by: sp_ on January 26, 2015, 05:42:45 PM
the dll's are from september 2014. Not sure though, the hashrate dropped now. down to 620. Need to test some more.


Title: Re: neoscrypt algo for ccminer and nvidia card: call for donation
Post by: sp_ on January 26, 2015, 05:51:47 PM
The 970 is doing great 560KHASH:

One of the ti's has crashed, so reporting 40KHASH, the other ti 175KHASH,

http://i59.tinypic.com/30rtg7r.png


Title: Re: neoscrypt algo for ccminer and nvidia card: call for donation
Post by: djm34 on January 26, 2015, 05:53:02 PM
the dll's are from september 2014. Not sure though, the hashrate dropped now. down to 620. Need to test some more.
you might need to increase a bit the voltage so it can systain your oc...
I tried to remove the dll but I don't see any difference: my core clock is 1466MHz (it is an factory OC so +175 lead to a crash)


edit: I must really have a crappy 750ti, I can't do more than 155MH/s
In case of crash you need to back up a bit the OC (it was crashing after a while with my defaut OC)


Title: Re: neoscrypt algo for ccminer and nvidia card: call for donation
Post by: sp_ on January 26, 2015, 06:36:53 PM
My 2 gainward 750ti's non powered are doing 155-160 without overclocking.

Neoscrypts seems to be the most profitable to mine now.  Here are my hashrate's on standard clock's:

2 750ti, 1 970 and 1 980

http://i60.tinypic.com/1z3t00y.png


Title: Re: neoscrypt algo for ccminer and nvidia card: call for donation
Post by: go6ooo1212 on January 26, 2015, 07:00:25 PM
My 750ti none powered OCed to +150 reaching 180.5 kH/s...


Title: Re: neoscrypt algo for ccminer and nvidia card: call for donation
Post by: StuffOfInterest on January 26, 2015, 07:06:47 PM
My 2 gainward 750ti's non powered are doing 155-160 without overclocking.

Neoscrypts seems to be the most profitable to mine now.  Here are my hashrate's on standard clock's:

2 750ti, 1 970 and 1 980

http://i60.tinypic.com/1z3t00y.png

sp_, looks like you have another machine mining the heck out of X11 there. :)

Looking forward to trying out NeoScrypt when I get home tonight.  Thanks for getting it out to us DJM.


Title: Re: neoscrypt algo for ccminer and nvidia card: call for donation
Post by: lextad on January 26, 2015, 09:36:32 PM
hey all im gettin 4 to 500khs but i do no like this http://s18.postimg.org/iafmt643d/Capture1.png is going really fast and only show gpu#0 and some time the other 3
what can this be ???


Title: Re: neoscrypt algo for ccminer and nvidia card: call for donation
Post by: djm34 on January 26, 2015, 09:39:11 PM
hey all im gettin 4 to 500khs but i do no like this http://s18.postimg.org/iafmt643d/Capture1.png is going really fast and only show gpu#0 and some time the other 3
what can this be ???
you need to reduce a bit the overclock on at least gpu#0 (it probably has crashed)


Title: Re: neoscrypt algo for ccminer and nvidia card: call for donation
Post by: lextad on January 26, 2015, 09:51:37 PM
im running no OC


PS is ok i interchange the cards and all good now ???


Title: Re: neoscrypt algo for ccminer and nvidia card: call for donation
Post by: frazier34567 on January 26, 2015, 11:38:27 PM
Getting about 148-152KH/s on my non OC 5X EVGA 750 ti SC and the one with the monitor gets 22KH/s

Added it to MC for now, 4th best crypto for me after Quark, X13 and X11

On concern is that when I launch it it says it is bind the GPUs 0-5 to CPUs 0-5.  I only have a 2 core Pentium CPU. Is it just a thread count or something?

Most other say that 3 bind to CPU 0 and 3 Bind to CPU 1.

Fraz


Title: Re: neoscrypt algo for ccminer and nvidia card: call for donation
Post by: djm34 on January 27, 2015, 12:20:33 AM
Getting about 148-152KH/s on my non OC 5X EVGA 750 ti SC and the one with the monitor gets 22KH/s

Added it to MC for now, 4th best crypto for me after Quark, X13 and X11

On concern is that when I launch it it says it is bind the GPUs 0-5 to CPUs 0-5.  I only have a 2 core Pentium CPU. Is it just a thread count or something?

Most other say that 3 bind to CPU 0 and 3 Bind to CPU 1.

Fraz
It could be a lot a 750ti to handle both the monitor and algo.
usually when one of my card is plugged to a monitor it allocates about 200Mb of vram and the current version the algo use about 1.8Gb of vram, so that may cause problem as well as lag...

Regarding the number of gpu and number of cpu thread, I am not sure, but if it worked with older ccminer there is no reason it wouldn't work with this one.


Title: Re: neoscrypt algo for ccminer and nvidia card: call for donation
Post by: StuffOfInterest on January 27, 2015, 12:59:12 AM
Sadly, not the best for me right now.  Getting 180 kh/s with 2 x eVGA 750 Ti SC (2GB) running at stock speed.  Since one of the cards also supports my monitor the system experiences horrible lag while mining NeoScrypt.  For my setup, currently gross earning is 1/6 of Quark on YAAMP.  When power is factored in I'm barely in the positive net earning.  Still, it's a start and with a little TLC I expect we'll see better even for my limited setup.  Thanks for getting it out there for us to try.  It is in the mix on my machine so we'll see how it does over the next few days as prices fluctuate up and down.


Title: Re: neoscrypt algo for ccminer and nvidia card: call for donation
Post by: djm34 on January 27, 2015, 01:09:05 AM
Sadly, not the best for me right now.  Getting 180 kh/s with 2 x eVGA 750 Ti SC (2GB) running at stock speed.  Since one of the cards also supports my monitor the system experiences horrible lag while mining NeoScrypt.  For my setup, currently gross earning is 1/6 of Quark on YAAMP.  When power is factored in I'm barely in the positive net earning.  Still, it's a start and with a little TLC I expect we'll see better even for my limited setup.  Thanks for getting it out there for us to try.  It is in the mix on my machine so we'll see how it does over the next few days as prices fluctuate up and down.

I'll try to release tomorrow a version with an adjustable intensity/throughput


Title: Re: neoscrypt algo for ccminer and nvidia card: call for donation
Post by: tbearhere on January 27, 2015, 10:33:15 AM
the dll's are from september 2014. Not sure though, the hashrate dropped now. down to 620. Need to test some more.
you might need to increase a bit the voltage so it can systain your oc...
I tried to remove the dll but I don't see any difference: my core clock is 1466MHz (it is an factory OC so +175 lead to a crash)


edit: I must really have a crappy 750ti, I can't do more than 155MH/s
In case of crash you need to back up a bit the OC (it was crashing after a while with my defaut OC)

I believe you meant 155kh/s right.
With my standard oc I get 155kh/s and 1 750ti ( it is factory super oc ) I get  5kh/s. My oc on my 750ti's like 1350 MHz.
I have noticed with scrypt my oc is  +60  and +300mem .... on ccminer +130  and +60mem so I think I need to try as if i'm doing scrypt.
EDIT:The oc I used is my ccminer settings not my scrypt Cuda miner settings. It does seam that the card with the video out does very low hash. I'll try it on my asrock rig that has no cards with video output pluged in...using the mobo for the video.


Title: Re: neoscrypt algo for ccminer and nvidia card: call for donation
Post by: scryptr on January 27, 2015, 09:54:23 PM
THANKS DJM34!!!

I now have something to test a new 960 with.  :)   I should check my messages more often!       --scryptr


Title: Re: neoscrypt algo for ccminer and nvidia card: call for donation
Post by: StuffOfInterest on January 28, 2015, 02:49:35 AM
Sadly, not the best for me right now.  Getting 180 kh/s with 2 x eVGA 750 Ti SC (2GB) running at stock speed.  Since one of the cards also supports my monitor the system experiences horrible lag while mining NeoScrypt.  For my setup, currently gross earning is 1/6 of Quark on YAAMP.  When power is factored in I'm barely in the positive net earning.  Still, it's a start and with a little TLC I expect we'll see better even for my limited setup.  Thanks for getting it out there for us to try.  It is in the mix on my machine so we'll see how it does over the next few days as prices fluctuate up and down.

I'll try to release tomorrow a version with an adjustable intensity/throughput

Sorry, new version has no love for my 2 x 750 Ti setup.

Launch command:

ccminer.exe -q -r 3 -R 10 -a neoscrypt -o stratum+tcp://yaamp.com:4233 -u [myaddress] -p 1

Result is fast repeating:

[2015-01-27 21:45:04] GPU #1: result for nonce $00000000 does not validate on CPU!


Title: Re: neoscrypt algo for ccminer and nvidia card: call for donation
Post by: djm34 on January 28, 2015, 10:11:25 AM
Sadly, not the best for me right now.  Getting 180 kh/s with 2 x eVGA 750 Ti SC (2GB) running at stock speed.  Since one of the cards also supports my monitor the system experiences horrible lag while mining NeoScrypt.  For my setup, currently gross earning is 1/6 of Quark on YAAMP.  When power is factored in I'm barely in the positive net earning.  Still, it's a start and with a little TLC I expect we'll see better even for my limited setup.  Thanks for getting it out there for us to try.  It is in the mix on my machine so we'll see how it does over the next few days as prices fluctuate up and down.

I'll try to release tomorrow a version with an adjustable intensity/throughput

Sorry, new version has no love for my 2 x 750 Ti setup.

Launch command:

ccminer.exe -q -r 3 -R 10 -a neoscrypt -o stratum+tcp://yaamp.com:4233 -u [myaddress] -p 1

Result is fast repeating:

[2015-01-27 21:45:04] GPU #1: result for nonce $00000000 does not validate on CPU!

apparently there is something wrong in the default setup of the throughput
try to add "--througput 3.5" (or less) to the command line



Title: Re: neoscrypt algo for ccminer and nvidia card: call for donation
Post by: StuffOfInterest on January 28, 2015, 11:58:24 AM
Sadly, not the best for me right now.  Getting 180 kh/s with 2 x eVGA 750 Ti SC (2GB) running at stock speed.  Since one of the cards also supports my monitor the system experiences horrible lag while mining NeoScrypt.  For my setup, currently gross earning is 1/6 of Quark on YAAMP.  When power is factored in I'm barely in the positive net earning.  Still, it's a start and with a little TLC I expect we'll see better even for my limited setup.  Thanks for getting it out there for us to try.  It is in the mix on my machine so we'll see how it does over the next few days as prices fluctuate up and down.

I'll try to release tomorrow a version with an adjustable intensity/throughput

Sorry, new version has no love for my 2 x 750 Ti setup.

Launch command:

ccminer.exe -q -r 3 -R 10 -a neoscrypt -o stratum+tcp://yaamp.com:4233 -u [myaddress] -p 1

Result is fast repeating:

[2015-01-27 21:45:04] GPU #1: result for nonce $00000000 does not validate on CPU!

apparently there is something wrong in the default setup of the throughput
try to add "--througput 3.5" (or less) to the command line

Much better.  Settles in at about 300 kh/s (+/- 30 after 45 units) on my setup.  Will have to play with the tuning settings later.


Title: Re: neoscrypt algo for ccminer and nvidia card: call for donation
Post by: djm34 on January 28, 2015, 12:08:22 PM
Sadly, not the best for me right now.  Getting 180 kh/s with 2 x eVGA 750 Ti SC (2GB) running at stock speed.  Since one of the cards also supports my monitor the system experiences horrible lag while mining NeoScrypt.  For my setup, currently gross earning is 1/6 of Quark on YAAMP.  When power is factored in I'm barely in the positive net earning.  Still, it's a start and with a little TLC I expect we'll see better even for my limited setup.  Thanks for getting it out there for us to try.  It is in the mix on my machine so we'll see how it does over the next few days as prices fluctuate up and down.

I'll try to release tomorrow a version with an adjustable intensity/throughput

Sorry, new version has no love for my 2 x 750 Ti setup.

Launch command:

ccminer.exe -q -r 3 -R 10 -a neoscrypt -o stratum+tcp://yaamp.com:4233 -u [myaddress] -p 1

Result is fast repeating:

[2015-01-27 21:45:04] GPU #1: result for nonce $00000000 does not validate on CPU!

apparently there is something wrong in the default setup of the throughput
try to add "--througput 3.5" (or less) to the command line

Much better.  Settles in at about 300 kh/s (+/- 30 after 45 units) on my setup.  Will have to play with the tuning settings later.
try the new version I just uploaded, there was definitely a bug in this one (the throughput was getting rounded as integer...)


Title: Re: neoscrypt algo for ccminer and nvidia card: call for donation
Post by: Ausar66 on January 29, 2015, 12:39:30 PM
date: 1/29/2015

sent: 0.01817859 BTC

Transaction ID: 8705c1991125ca01e14a917dd7206449664831b25adfb1fa68c8cd6e506d20e1

Thanks for the excellent work.


Title: Re: neoscrypt algo for ccminer and nvidia card: call for donation
Post by: StuffOfInterest on January 29, 2015, 09:09:12 PM
djm,

3rd release does not like my 2 x 750 Ti setup.  Here are a few test runs I did:

Release 3, no options: GPU0 = 167 kh/s, GPU1 = 21 kh/s
Release 3, --throughput 3.5: GPU0 = 159 kh/s, GPU1 = 18 kh/s

Release 2, no options: no options: (boom) GPU #1: result for nonce $00000000 does not validate on CPU!
Release 2, --throughput 3.5: GPU0 = 167 kh/s, GPU1 = 164 kh/s

Release 2 with the "throughput" option specified is my champ right now.

With release 2, I've had NeoScrypt bubble up to most profitable in Miner Control a few times.


Title: Re: neoscrypt algo for ccminer and nvidia card: call for donation
Post by: frazier34567 on January 29, 2015, 09:18:04 PM
V3 Release getting between 730 and 779 with my rig. 6 750 ti no overclock and monitor running one card at -throughput 3.5


Title: Re: neoscrypt algo for ccminer and nvidia card: call for donation
Post by: djm34 on January 29, 2015, 10:34:26 PM
djm,

3rd release does not like my 2 x 750 Ti setup.  Here are a few test runs I did:

Release 3, no options: GPU0 = 167 kh/s, GPU1 = 21 kh/s
Release 3, --throughput 3.5: GPU0 = 159 kh/s, GPU1 = 18 kh/s

Release 2, no options: no options: (boom) GPU #1: result for nonce $00000000 does not validate on CPU!
Release 2, --throughput 3.5: GPU0 = 167 kh/s, GPU1 = 164 kh/s

Release 2 with the "throughput" option specified is my champ right now.

With release 2, I've had NeoScrypt bubble up to most profitable in Miner Control a few times.

What is particular regarding gpu1 ? Is it one plugged into a monitor ?
Try using with release 3 --throughput 3 (because of rounding bug, that was what you were using in release 2)


Title: Re: neoscrypt algo for ccminer and nvidia card: call for donation
Post by: StuffOfInterest on January 30, 2015, 03:05:35 AM
djm,

3rd release does not like my 2 x 750 Ti setup.  Here are a few test runs I did:

Release 3, no options: GPU0 = 167 kh/s, GPU1 = 21 kh/s
Release 3, --throughput 3.5: GPU0 = 159 kh/s, GPU1 = 18 kh/s

Release 2, no options: no options: (boom) GPU #1: result for nonce $00000000 does not validate on CPU!
Release 2, --throughput 3.5: GPU0 = 167 kh/s, GPU1 = 164 kh/s

Release 2 with the "throughput" option specified is my champ right now.

With release 2, I've had NeoScrypt bubble up to most profitable in Miner Control a few times.

What is particular regarding gpu1 ? Is it one plugged into a monitor ?
Try using with release 3 --throughput 3 (because of rounding bug, that was what you were using in release 2)

Oh yeah, that made a difference.  --throughput 3 is reporting about 308 kh/s combined for the two cards on accepted blocks.  If I exclude the first couple of blocks which have low rates then the actual speed is around 320-330 kh/s.  The reported values per gpu are around 160 kh/s and 170 kh/s for GPU 0 and 1 respectively.  Looks like 3.5 was just too much for GPU 1.

Not sure which is connected to the monitor but I'd hazard a guess that it is GPU 1.

Thanks.


Title: Re: neoscrypt algo for ccminer and nvidia card: call for donation
Post by: djm34 on January 30, 2015, 03:27:31 AM
djm,

3rd release does not like my 2 x 750 Ti setup.  Here are a few test runs I did:

Release 3, no options: GPU0 = 167 kh/s, GPU1 = 21 kh/s
Release 3, --throughput 3.5: GPU0 = 159 kh/s, GPU1 = 18 kh/s

Release 2, no options: no options: (boom) GPU #1: result for nonce $00000000 does not validate on CPU!
Release 2, --throughput 3.5: GPU0 = 167 kh/s, GPU1 = 164 kh/s

Release 2 with the "throughput" option specified is my champ right now.

With release 2, I've had NeoScrypt bubble up to most profitable in Miner Control a few times.

What is particular regarding gpu1 ? Is it one plugged into a monitor ?
Try using with release 3 --throughput 3 (because of rounding bug, that was what you were using in release 2)

Oh yeah, that made a difference.  --throughput 3 is reporting about 308 kh/s combined for the two cards on accepted blocks.  If I exclude the first couple of blocks which have low rates then the actual speed is around 320-330 kh/s.  The reported values per gpu are around 160 kh/s and 170 kh/s for GPU 0 and 1 respectively.  Looks like 3.5 was just too much for GPU 1.

Not sure which is connected to the monitor but I'd hazard a guess that it is GPU 1.

Thanks.
ok good. actually if needed you can also adjust the throughput for each card separately using "-d750ti#1,750ti#2 --throughput 3,3.5" (however 750ti#1 may or may not corresponds to gpu1... )


Title: Re: neoscrypt algo for ccminer and nvidia card: call for donation
Post by: Bloodys on January 30, 2015, 04:05:33 PM
My two cents sent :)

Transaction id: e8620e3cfa28d2a88766af5fc83b82d3599f22e4c5736a1b97fa2a0b6d7c2b38

Keep up the good work Djm34.


Title: Re: neoscrypt algo for ccminer and nvidia card: call for donation
Post by: scryptr on January 30, 2015, 07:10:46 PM
DJM34 --

The latest version of the miner runs well on my Win 7 x64 machine.  I get 230+ kh/s on my GTX 960; this is about 1.5X the reported rate for a 750ti.  Any big load on my i7 CPU slows down the mining, however.

Unfortunately, on my Ubuntu 14.04 rig, the only results I get are "segmentation fault".  The miner boots, binds 6 theads to my 6 750ti cards, and I get at most one kh/s reading that is reasonable, sometimes followed by insanely high kh/s readouts, then the segmentation fault.  Sometimes I just get the segmentation fault, sans any other output.

I hope things smooth out, I appreciate your hard work.  If I could get some compilation tips, it may be an issue resolvable on my end.  I plan to reload my 14.04 system this weekend, using default paths for the drivers.  CUDA 6.5 toolkit does not  support Utopic Unicorn.       --scryptr


Title: Re: neoscrypt algo for ccminer and nvidia card: call for donation
Post by: djm34 on January 30, 2015, 08:26:06 PM
DJM34 --

The latest version of the miner runs well on my Win 7 x64 machine.  I get 230+ kh/s on my GTX 960; this is about 1.5X the reported rate for a 750ti.  Any big load on my i7 CPU slows down the mining, however.

Unfortunately, on my Ubuntu 14.04 rig, the only results I get are "segmentation fault".  The miner boots, binds 6 theads to my 6 750ti cards, and I get at most one kh/s reading that is reasonable, sometimes followed by insanely high kh/s readouts, then the segmentation fault.  Sometimes I just get the segmentation fault, sans any other output.

I hope things smooth out, I appreciate your hard work.  If I could get some compilation tips, it may be an issue resolvable on my end.  I plan to move to 14.10 this weekend, using default paths for the drivers.       --scryptr
I am going to have a look into that... (you are not the first to report the problem, unfortunately...)


Title: Re: neoscrypt algo for ccminer and nvidia card: call for donation
Post by: frazier34567 on February 02, 2015, 05:58:24 PM
I am running 5 EVGA 750 ti SC no OC and if I try to do a throughput of 2 or 3.5 (Even did the 2,2,2,2,2) it gives me about 40-70% rejection rate.  The submission seem to come faster but the number in boo's is really high and the hash rate is lower than throughput 1. 

Windows 8.1 Professional
Neoscrypt miner beta 3


Title: Re: neoscrypt algo for ccminer and nvidia card: call for donation
Post by: djm34 on February 02, 2015, 06:29:03 PM
I am running 5 EVGA 750 ti SC no OC and if I try to do a throughput of 2 or 3.5 (Even did the 2,2,2,2,2) it gives me about 40-70% rejection rate.  The submission seem to come faster but the number in boo's is really high and the hash rate is lower than throughput 1.  

Windows 8.1 Professional
Neoscrypt miner beta 3
how is handled the pagefile ?
pagefile usage can be pretty big, I don't know if this could explain that

Also it can be a problem with the pool itself ? (my reject rate is close to 0% on blockfactory)
can you show me your command line ? may-be something wrong here


Title: Re: neoscrypt algo for ccminer and nvidia card: call for donation
Post by: frazier34567 on February 02, 2015, 11:11:04 PM
I am running 5 EVGA 750 ti SC no OC and if I try to do a throughput of 2 or 3.5 (Even did the 2,2,2,2,2) it gives me about 40-70% rejection rate.  The submission seem to come faster but the number in boo's is really high and the hash rate is lower than throughput 1.  

Windows 8.1 Professional
Neoscrypt miner beta 3
how is handled the pagefile ?
pagefile usage can be pretty big, I don't know if this could explain that

Also it can be a problem with the pool itself ? (my reject rate is close to 0% on blockfactory)
can you show me your command line ? may-be something wrong here

Happens on both YAAMP and NiceHash. 

ccminer.exe -a neoscrypt -o stratum+tcp://yaamp.com:4233 -u BTCaddress -p 2 -d 0,1,2,4,5 --throughput 2,2,2,2,2

I put debugging on it it says Share above target.

Code:
[17:07:37] Starting NiceHash NeoScrypt with C:\cudaminer\neoscrypt\lyra2\lyra\ccminer.exe -a neoscrypt -o stratum+tcp://stratum.nicehash.com:3341 -u BTCaddress -p x -d 0,1,2,4,5 --throughput 2,2,2,2,2 -D
[2015-02-02 17:07:38] 5 miner threads started, using 'neoscrypt' algorithm.
[2015-02-02 17:07:38] Starting Stratum on stratum+tcp://stratum.nicehash.com:3341
[2015-02-02 17:07:39] Failed to get Stratum session id
[2015-02-02 17:07:39] Stratum difficulty set to 64
[2015-02-02 17:07:40] DEBUG: job_id='1c7' extranonce2=0000 ntime=54d00338
[2015-02-02 17:07:40] Stratum detected new block
[2015-02-02 17:07:41] GPU #1: GeForce GTX 750 Ti, 27.49 khash/s
[2015-02-02 17:07:42] GPU #0: GeForce GTX 750 Ti, 27.33 khash/s
[2015-02-02 17:07:43] GPU #4: GeForce GTX 750 Ti, 14.22 khash/s
[2015-02-02 17:07:43] GPU #5: GeForce GTX 750 Ti, 10.74 khash/s
[2015-02-02 17:07:43] GPU #2: GeForce GTX 750 Ti, 10.48 khash/s
[2015-02-02 17:07:44] GPU #1: GeForce GTX 750 Ti, 140.98 khash/s
[2015-02-02 17:07:44] accepted: 0/1 (0.00%), 203.75 kh/s (203.75 +/- 0.00) (booooo)
[2015-02-02 17:07:44] DEBUG: reject reason: Share above target.
[2015-02-02 17:07:46] GPU #0: GeForce GTX 750 Ti, 143.94 khash/s
[2015-02-02 17:07:46] accepted: 1/2 (50.00%), 320.35 kh/s (262.05 +/- 58.30) (yay!!!)
[2015-02-02 17:07:48] GPU #5: GeForce GTX 750 Ti, 150.07 khash/s
[2015-02-02 17:07:48] GPU #2: GeForce GTX 750 Ti, 148.58 khash/s
[2015-02-02 17:07:49] GPU #4: GeForce GTX 750 Ti, 148.18 khash/s
[2015-02-02 17:07:49] GPU #1: GeForce GTX 750 Ti, 147.68 khash/s
[2015-02-02 17:07:49] accepted: 2/3 (66.67%), 738.45 kh/s (420.85 +/- 229.57) (yay!!!)
[2015-02-02 17:07:51] GPU #4: GeForce GTX 750 Ti, 137.59 khash/s
[2015-02-02 17:07:51] accepted: 2/4 (50.00%), 727.86 kh/s (497.60 +/- 239.16) (booooo)
[2015-02-02 17:07:51] DEBUG: reject reason: Share above target.
[2015-02-02 17:07:52] GPU #1: GeForce GTX 750 Ti, 142.83 khash/s
[2015-02-02 17:07:53] accepted: 3/5 (60.00%), 723.00 kh/s (542.68 +/- 232.14) (yay!!!)
[2015-02-02 17:07:54] GPU #0: GeForce GTX 750 Ti, 144.32 khash/s
[2015-02-02 17:07:54] GPU #5: GeForce GTX 750 Ti, 148.95 khash/s
[2015-02-02 17:07:54] accepted: 3/6 (50.00%), 722.25 kh/s (572.61 +/- 222.23) (booooo)
[2015-02-02 17:07:54] DEBUG: reject reason: Share above target.
[2015-02-02 17:07:55] DEBUG: job_id='1ca' extranonce2=0000 ntime=54d0034b
[2015-02-02 17:07:55] Stratum detected new block
[2015-02-02 17:07:55] GPU #4: GeForce GTX 750 Ti, 150.51 khash/s
[2015-02-02 17:07:55] GPU #0: GeForce GTX 750 Ti, 146.39 khash/s
[2015-02-02 17:07:55] GPU #2: GeForce GTX 750 Ti, 147.98 khash/s
[2015-02-02 17:07:55] GPU #1: GeForce GTX 750 Ti, 148.76 khash/s
[2015-02-02 17:07:55] GPU #5: GeForce GTX 750 Ti, 128.99 khash/s
[2015-02-02 17:07:55] accepted: 3/7 (42.86%), 722.64 kh/s (594.04 +/- 212.34) (booooo)
[2015-02-02 17:07:55] DEBUG: reject reason: Share above target.
[2015-02-02 17:07:55] accepted: 3/8 (37.50%), 722.64 kh/s (610.12 +/- 203.12) (booooo)
[2015-02-02 17:07:55] DEBUG: reject reason: Share above target.
[2015-02-02 17:08:01] GPU #1: GeForce GTX 750 Ti, 145.18 khash/s
[2015-02-02 17:08:01] GPU #4: GeForce GTX 750 Ti, 145.94 khash/s
[2015-02-02 17:08:01] accepted: 4/9 (44.44%), 714.48 kh/s (621.72 +/- 194.30) (yay!!!)
[2015-02-02 17:08:01] accepted: 5/10 (50.00%), 714.48 kh/s (630.99 +/- 186.41) (yay!!!)
[2015-02-02 17:08:06] GPU #1: GeForce GTX 750 Ti, 146.01 khash/s
[2015-02-02 17:08:06] accepted: 5/11 (45.45%), 715.32 kh/s (638.66 +/- 179.38) (booooo)
[2015-02-02 17:08:06] DEBUG: reject reason: Share above target.


Title: Re: neoscrypt algo for ccminer and nvidia card: call for donation
Post by: djm34 on February 03, 2015, 12:33:46 AM
I am running 5 EVGA 750 ti SC no OC and if I try to do a throughput of 2 or 3.5 (Even did the 2,2,2,2,2) it gives me about 40-70% rejection rate.  The submission seem to come faster but the number in boo's is really high and the hash rate is lower than throughput 1.  

Windows 8.1 Professional
Neoscrypt miner beta 3
how is handled the pagefile ?
pagefile usage can be pretty big, I don't know if this could explain that

Also it can be a problem with the pool itself ? (my reject rate is close to 0% on blockfactory)
can you show me your command line ? may-be something wrong here

Happens on both YAAMP and NiceHash.  

ccminer.exe -a neoscrypt -o stratum+tcp://yaamp.com:4233 -u BTCaddress -p 2 -d 0,1,2,4,5 --throughput 2,2,2,2,2

I put debugging on it it says Share above target.

use --diff 0.5 (just tried on nicehash works like a charm)

when there are lots of reject, it is usually a difficulty issue...
(by you should probably use throughput 3 or 3.5 (2 seems a bit extreme)


Title: Re: neoscrypt algo for ccminer and nvidia card: call for donation
Post by: frazier34567 on February 03, 2015, 12:48:57 AM


Happens on both YAAMP and NiceHash.  

ccminer.exe -a neoscrypt -o stratum+tcp://yaamp.com:4233 -u BTCaddress -p 2 -d 0,1,2,4,5 --throughput 2,2,2,2,2

I put debugging on it it says Share above target.

use --diff 0.5 (just tried on nicehash works like a charm)

when there are lots of reject, it is usually a difficulty issue...
(by you should probably use throughput 3 or 3.5 (2 seems a bit extreme)

Put it at --diff 0.4  and 3.5 for throughput. It is running well. 742-747 per accepted share


Title: Re: neoscrypt algo for ccminer and nvidia card: call for donation
Post by: djm34 on February 04, 2015, 01:00:48 AM
the good news:

new speed: gtx980: 665kh/s
                gtx780ti: 355kh/s
                gtx750ti: 160kh/s
will be out soon

The bad news:
Still struggling to get the linux version working (might have to do a full check, which isn't easy with kopiemtu as it reboot on its own from time to time)


Title: Re: neoscrypt algo for ccminer and nvidia card: call for donation
Post by: chrysophylax on February 04, 2015, 02:11:27 AM
the good news:

new speed: gtx980: 665kh/s
                gtx780ti: 355kh/s
                gtx750ti: 160kh/s
will be out soon

The bad news:
Still struggling to get the linux version working (might have to do a full check, which isn't easy with kopiemtu as it reboot on its own from time to time)


djm ... i can setup a system specifically for YOU under fedora that only YOU have access to if you like ...

ssh and screen are amazing little tools in linux ;) ...

you will have full security and accessibility with the machine - no one else ...

that way you can test and rebuild and do what is required whenever you require ...

i would prefer a direct build of the miner and only you can supply it - as im not the only miner out there that runs everything from fedora or redhat based system ...

let me know ...

#crysx


Title: Re: neoscrypt algo for ccminer and nvidia card: call for donation
Post by: djm34 on February 04, 2015, 04:55:26 PM
ok, I have finally a working linux version (based on sp/tpruvot release...)

For the moment, it will come in 2 flavors: kopiemtu (tested on my computer by without compute_52 support) and Ubuntu 14.04 latest cuda 6.5 with gtx900 support.


Title: Re: neoscrypt algo for ccminer and nvidia card: call for donation
Post by: StuffOfInterest on February 05, 2015, 11:17:50 AM
Latest windows release from yesterday (I'm calling it neo4) is giving more boos than yays on both WestHash and YAAMP.  Here is my launch command:

Code:
ccminer.exe -q -r 3 -R 10 --throughput 3 -a neoscrypt -o stratum+tcp://yaamp.com:4233 -u [myaddress] -p 1

It did show a slight increase in reported speed.

Quick console dump:

Code:
[2015-02-05 06:13:18] Starting Stratum on stratum+tcp://yaamp.com:4233
[2015-02-05 06:13:18] 2 miner threads started, using 'neoscrypt' algorithm.
[2015-02-05 06:13:21] accepted: 0/1 (0.00%), 293.32 kh/s (293.32 +/- 0.00) (booooo)
[2015-02-05 06:13:24] accepted: 0/2 (0.00%), 338.83 kh/s (316.07 +/- 22.75) (booooo)
[2015-02-05 06:13:25] accepted: 0/3 (0.00%), 330.98 kh/s (321.04 +/- 19.86) (booooo)
[2015-02-05 06:13:26] accepted: 0/4 (0.00%), 338.69 kh/s (325.45 +/- 18.82) (booooo)
[2015-02-05 06:13:27] accepted: 1/5 (20.00%), 322.87 kh/s (324.94 +/- 16.87) (yay!!!)
[2015-02-05 06:13:28] accepted: 1/6 (16.67%), 296.28 kh/s (320.16 +/- 18.74) (booooo)
[2015-02-05 06:13:35] accepted: 1/7 (14.29%), 325.64 kh/s (320.95 +/- 17.45) (booooo)
[2015-02-05 06:13:37] accepted: 1/8 (12.50%), 344.54 kh/s (323.89 +/- 18.09) (booooo)
[2015-02-05 06:13:39] accepted: 1/9 (11.11%), 347.33 kh/s (326.50 +/- 18.58) (booooo)


Title: Re: neoscrypt algo for ccminer and nvidia card: call for donation
Post by: djm34 on February 05, 2015, 11:28:20 AM
Latest windows release from yesterday (I'm calling it neo4) is giving more boos than yays on both WestHash and YAAMP.  Here is my launch command:

Code:
ccminer.exe -q -r 3 -R 10 --throughput 3 -a neoscrypt -o stratum+tcp://yaamp.com:4233 -u [myaddress] -p 1

It did show a slight increase in reported speed.

Quick console dump:

Code:
[2015-02-05 06:13:18] Starting Stratum on stratum+tcp://yaamp.com:4233
[2015-02-05 06:13:18] 2 miner threads started, using 'neoscrypt' algorithm.
[2015-02-05 06:13:21] accepted: 0/1 (0.00%), 293.32 kh/s (293.32 +/- 0.00) (booooo)
[2015-02-05 06:13:24] accepted: 0/2 (0.00%), 338.83 kh/s (316.07 +/- 22.75) (booooo)
[2015-02-05 06:13:25] accepted: 0/3 (0.00%), 330.98 kh/s (321.04 +/- 19.86) (booooo)
[2015-02-05 06:13:26] accepted: 0/4 (0.00%), 338.69 kh/s (325.45 +/- 18.82) (booooo)
[2015-02-05 06:13:27] accepted: 1/5 (20.00%), 322.87 kh/s (324.94 +/- 16.87) (yay!!!)
[2015-02-05 06:13:28] accepted: 1/6 (16.67%), 296.28 kh/s (320.16 +/- 18.74) (booooo)
[2015-02-05 06:13:35] accepted: 1/7 (14.29%), 325.64 kh/s (320.95 +/- 17.45) (booooo)
[2015-02-05 06:13:37] accepted: 1/8 (12.50%), 344.54 kh/s (323.89 +/- 18.09) (booooo)
[2015-02-05 06:13:39] accepted: 1/9 (11.11%), 347.33 kh/s (326.50 +/- 18.58) (booooo)
this was reported previously, try using --diff 0.5 (the current difficulty is too low)


Title: Re: neoscrypt algo for ccminer and nvidia card: call for donation
Post by: StuffOfInterest on February 05, 2015, 12:16:09 PM
Latest windows release from yesterday (I'm calling it neo4) is giving more boos than yays on both WestHash and YAAMP.  Here is my launch command:

Code:
ccminer.exe -q -r 3 -R 10 --throughput 3 -a neoscrypt -o stratum+tcp://yaamp.com:4233 -u [myaddress] -p 1

It did show a slight increase in reported speed.

Quick console dump:

Code:
[2015-02-05 06:13:18] Starting Stratum on stratum+tcp://yaamp.com:4233
[2015-02-05 06:13:18] 2 miner threads started, using 'neoscrypt' algorithm.
[2015-02-05 06:13:21] accepted: 0/1 (0.00%), 293.32 kh/s (293.32 +/- 0.00) (booooo)
[2015-02-05 06:13:24] accepted: 0/2 (0.00%), 338.83 kh/s (316.07 +/- 22.75) (booooo)
[2015-02-05 06:13:25] accepted: 0/3 (0.00%), 330.98 kh/s (321.04 +/- 19.86) (booooo)
[2015-02-05 06:13:26] accepted: 0/4 (0.00%), 338.69 kh/s (325.45 +/- 18.82) (booooo)
[2015-02-05 06:13:27] accepted: 1/5 (20.00%), 322.87 kh/s (324.94 +/- 16.87) (yay!!!)
[2015-02-05 06:13:28] accepted: 1/6 (16.67%), 296.28 kh/s (320.16 +/- 18.74) (booooo)
[2015-02-05 06:13:35] accepted: 1/7 (14.29%), 325.64 kh/s (320.95 +/- 17.45) (booooo)
[2015-02-05 06:13:37] accepted: 1/8 (12.50%), 344.54 kh/s (323.89 +/- 18.09) (booooo)
[2015-02-05 06:13:39] accepted: 1/9 (11.11%), 347.33 kh/s (326.50 +/- 18.58) (booooo)
this was reported previously, try using --diff 0.5 (the current difficulty is too low)

Much happier.  Thanks.

Now running about 331 kh/s on 2 x eVGA 750 Ti SC cards at stock speed.


Title: Re: neoscrypt algo for ccminer and nvidia card: call for donation
Post by: blue-yu on February 05, 2015, 03:56:35 PM
Hey, how to give this miner a try? Donate some btc, and then what? Download? Compile? Git?


Title: Re: neoscrypt algo for ccminer and nvidia card: call for donation
Post by: djm34 on February 05, 2015, 04:59:54 PM
Hey, how to give this miner a try? Donate some btc, and then what? Download? Compile? Git?

right now, you need to donate at least 0.02btc to the address in my signature, then I will give you the exe
(windows or linux)


Title: Re: neoscrypt algo for ccminer and nvidia card: call for donation
Post by: blue-yu on February 05, 2015, 08:01:56 PM
Great. 20 mBTC sent to You. I personaly still mine quark, but You send me exe for linux (kopiemtu) just to test and wait until neoscrypt mining is better then quark.

BR...


Title: Re: neoscrypt algo for ccminer and nvidia card: call for donation
Post by: AliassailA on February 06, 2015, 05:50:41 AM
Hey 20mBTC sent for windows exe :)

Transaction ID:

9fee6bfd6f0898222cde199f01222ccfa081e3c32467a842564f8d415cdbc6d4


Title: Re: neoscrypt algo for ccminer and nvidia card: call for donation
Post by: tbearhere on February 06, 2015, 10:29:05 AM
http://s26.postimg.org/u1ml07j51/lyra.jpg (http://postimg.org/image/u1ml07j51/)
Latest lyra.
Still on the 750ti ..the one that has the video out hooked up for this computer ...low hash.
But it will have 450kh/s if I put it on my rig. For some reason the hash is very low on the card that has video out used.
My rig has no video out hooked up so it will give 450kh/s per 750ti  no over clocking.
I'll try on my rig later.


Title: Re: neoscrypt algo for ccminer and nvidia card: call for donation
Post by: djm34 on February 06, 2015, 11:10:06 AM
http://s26.postimg.org/u1ml07j51/lyra.jpg (http://postimg.org/image/u1ml07j51/)
Latest lyra.
Still on the 750ti ..the one that has the video out hooked up for this computer ...low hash.
But it will have 450kh/s if I put it on my rig. For some reason the hash is very low on the card that has video out used.
My rig has no video out hooked up so it will give 450kh/s per 750ti  no over clocking.
I'll try on my rig later.
the driver of that card has probably crashed at some point. You should reboot your rig.
If it isn't enough try also to add --throughput 3


Title: Re: neoscrypt algo for ccminer and nvidia card: call for donation
Post by: blue-yu on February 06, 2015, 01:10:09 PM
There is a little known problem with kopiemtu monitoring. Video card hash rate is reported in KH/S, but kopiemtu need khash/s to work normally. Can You fix this, or maybe there is some adjustment in kompiemtu's monitoring config file?


Title: Re: neoscrypt algo for ccminer and nvidia card: call for donation
Post by: djm34 on February 06, 2015, 01:50:02 PM
There is a little known problem with kopiemtu monitoring. Video card hash rate is reported in KH/S, but kopiemtu need khash/s to work normally. Can You fix this, or maybe there is some adjustment in kompiemtu's monitoring config file?
I don't know, I must admit I didn't try to various function of kopiemtu.
I can always try to modify that, it shouldn't be a big problem.


Title: Re: neoscrypt algo for ccminer and nvidia card: call for donation
Post by: tbearhere on February 06, 2015, 02:43:29 PM
http://s26.postimg.org/u1ml07j51/lyra.jpg (http://postimg.org/image/u1ml07j51/)
Latest lyra.
Still on the 750ti ..the one that has the video out hooked up for this computer ...low hash.
But it will have 450kh/s if I put it on my rig. For some reason the hash is very low on the card that has video out used.
My rig has no video out hooked up so it will give 450kh/s per 750ti  no over clocking.
I'll try on my rig later.
the driver of that card has probably crashed at some point. You should reboot your rig.
If it isn't enough try also to add --throughput 3
Yes thank you djm ..right now i'm having major problems with anything related to display. My computer( video ) is flashing on and off and 2 more cards seem to die..total of three. I have 4 cards on this computer. ... and my last card on this computer isn't working properly... still flashing on and off. Still working just to get my display to work properly. My display setting is the same before the crash and web pages and video movies are fine but the icons are extremely big and it's still flashing on and off once in awhile. This flashing on and off has been happening for a long time, but yesterday ... complete crash. So I took out the 3 cards and put this 4th card on the mobo all by itself. I'm going to do a clean reinstall the latest driver again and see if that works.
I noticed when I had the 4 cards working, and mined with the first version, that the hashrate was good on 3 cards but one was very low like shown here. It must be the one on the mobo that's doing the low hashrate so I'll try --throughput 3 when I can.

EDIT: --throughput 3  seems to work ... got 147kh/s ...now reinstalling the drivers.


Title: Re: neoscrypt algo for ccminer and nvidia card: call for donation
Post by: djm34 on February 06, 2015, 03:07:07 PM
http://s26.postimg.org/u1ml07j51/lyra.jpg (http://postimg.org/image/u1ml07j51/)
Latest lyra.
Still on the 750ti ..the one that has the video out hooked up for this computer ...low hash.
But it will have 450kh/s if I put it on my rig. For some reason the hash is very low on the card that has video out used.
My rig has no video out hooked up so it will give 450kh/s per 750ti  no over clocking.
I'll try on my rig later.
the driver of that card has probably crashed at some point. You should reboot your rig.
If it isn't enough try also to add --throughput 3
Yes thank you djm ..right now i'm having major problems with anything related to display. My computer( video ) is flashing on and off and 2 more cards seem to die..total of three. I have 4 cards on this computer. ... and my last card on this computer isn't working properly... still flashing on and off. Still working just to get my display to work properly. My display setting is the same before the crash and web pages and video movies are fine but the icons are extremely big and it's still flashing on and off once in awhile. This flashing on and off has been happening for a long time, but yesterday ... complete crash. So I took out the 3 cards and put this 4th card on the mobo all by itself. I'm going to do a clean reinstall the latest driver again and see if that works.
I noticed when I had the 4 cards working, and mined with the first version, that the hashrate was good on 3 cards but one was very low like shown here. It must be the one on the mobo that's doing the low hashrate so I'll try --throughput 3 when I can.

EDIT: --throughput 3  seems to work ... got 147kh/s ...now reinstalling the drivers.
;D (sorry...) you beat us all regarding computer problems  ;D

Are you sure the monitor cable is properly plugged, this can cause this kind of effect especially with those dvi cable which are particularly heavy.


Title: Re: neoscrypt algo for ccminer and nvidia card: call for donation
Post by: tbearhere on February 06, 2015, 05:26:27 PM
http://s26.postimg.org/u1ml07j51/lyra.jpg (http://postimg.org/image/u1ml07j51/)
Latest lyra.
Still on the 750ti ..the one that has the video out hooked up for this computer ...low hash.
But it will have 450kh/s if I put it on my rig. For some reason the hash is very low on the card that has video out used.
My rig has no video out hooked up so it will give 450kh/s per 750ti  no over clocking.
I'll try on my rig later.
the driver of that card has probably crashed at some point. You should reboot your rig.
If it isn't enough try also to add --throughput 3
Yes thank you djm ..right now i'm having major problems with anything related to display. My computer( video ) is flashing on and off and 2 more cards seem to die..total of three. I have 4 cards on this computer. ... and my last card on this computer isn't working properly... still flashing on and off. Still working just to get my display to work properly. My display setting is the same before the crash and web pages and video movies are fine but the icons are extremely big and it's still flashing on and off once in awhile. This flashing on and off has been happening for a long time, but yesterday ... complete crash. So I took out the 3 cards and put this 4th card on the mobo all by itself. I'm going to do a clean reinstall the latest driver again and see if that works.
I noticed when I had the 4 cards working, and mined with the first version, that the hashrate was good on 3 cards but one was very low like shown here. It must be the one on the mobo that's doing the low hashrate so I'll try --throughput 3 when I can.

EDIT: --throughput 3  seems to work ... got 147kh/s ...now reinstalling the drivers.
;D (sorry...) you beat us all regarding computer problems  ;D

Are you sure the monitor cable is properly plugged, this can cause this kind of effect especially with those dvi cable which are particularly heavy.

That's not all...  ;D my mouse drivers won't work properly and some other issues too like my icons load twice on bootup... :o Have to call HP support and microsoft .. Maybe my cards are ok.. :D
EDIT: Yes thx the hdmi cable seems fine. And doing   sfc /scannow    command ... may help.


Title: Re: neoscrypt algo for ccminer and nvidia card: call for donation
Post by: Sanseth on February 08, 2015, 03:18:39 AM
Hi. I'd love to try this one out, but I'm afraid I don't have much to donate since I just got into mining. Started on Orbitcoins a few days ago. Can I barter with what I already have, or is that a 'no deal'? ;)


Title: Re: neoscrypt algo for ccminer and nvidia card: call for donation
Post by: djm34 on February 08, 2015, 03:23:28 AM
Hi. I'd love to try this one out, but I'm afraid I don't have much to donate since I just got into mining. Started on Orbitcoins a few days ago. Can I barter with what I already have, or is that a 'no deal'? ;)
Hi,

For the moment, I would prefer to keep it that way. After it depends obviously what you have to propose...
Also there is no hurry, I don't plan to run away with the bounty any time soon  ;D

cheers,
djm


Title: Re: neoscrypt algo for ccminer and nvidia card: call for donation
Post by: Sanseth on February 08, 2015, 03:41:05 AM
Well, I just found 3 blocks via the pool I'm in (http://orb.dnb.io/) in a very short time span. I was surprised to see that with my humble output. I'll see what I have after I've counted the scratch later on. ;)

Either way I'll keep an eye on the thread here. Looks to be a promising miner for Neoscrypt.


Title: Re: neoscrypt algo for ccminer and nvidia card: call for donation
Post by: DougB62 on February 08, 2015, 04:10:10 AM
@djm: 0.0221 sent: https://blockchain.info/tx-index/1ef4dcc91a85739db06ceb3cb8b7f295a36b5c38f7d1c7edee49a73b41a74b76

Windows.

Thanks!


Title: Re: neoscrypt algo for ccminer and nvidia card: call for donation
Post by: zTheWolfz on February 08, 2015, 12:25:03 PM
I was wondering how this works with a GTX760 or GTX660Ti and if you can solo mine with the latest version or any version yet?
I have a few BTC but must know how its working with the cards above before making a pledge. I also have a few GTX 480's
will this work with older cards such as those?


Title: Re: neoscrypt algo for ccminer and nvidia card: call for donation
Post by: djm34 on February 08, 2015, 12:57:31 PM
I was wondering how this works with a GTX760 or GTX660Ti and if you can solo mine with the latest version or any version yet?
I have a few BTC but must know how its working with the cards above before making a pledge. I also have a few GTX 480's
will this work with older cards such as those?
For the moment it doesn't work for cards using compute version below compute 3.5
I will look into this tonight, it shouldn't take too long however  in terms of performance it won't be as fast as the compute 52


Title: Re: neoscrypt algo for ccminer and nvidia card: call for donation
Post by: JABarrett85 on February 08, 2015, 02:00:19 PM
Just donated 0.02699 BTC for the Windows exe - https://blockchain.info/tx/60b5416c151e3c574ba6f90f99a60aa17361dfc674cba49a3498266c04b7277a


Title: Re: neoscrypt algo for ccminer and nvidia card: call for donation
Post by: DuHast on February 08, 2015, 02:09:02 PM
Donated 0.02 BTC for the Windows.exe https://blockchain.info/tx-index/c6b5dc129755471261b7796aa9c5b0e10b858e2eeed5bf1812a2b5a4ddf0981f


Title: Re: neoscrypt algo for ccminer and nvidia card: call for donation
Post by: zTheWolfz on February 08, 2015, 06:43:30 PM
I was wondering how this works with a GTX760 or GTX660Ti and if you can solo mine with the latest version or any version yet?
I have a few BTC but must know how its working with the cards above before making a pledge. I also have a few GTX 480's
will this work with older cards such as those?
For the moment it doesn't work for cards using compute version below compute 3.5
I will look into this tonight, it shouldn't take too long however  in terms of performance it won't be as fast as the compute 52
Could you be a little more clear with your answer about compute version and what cards?
Also you didn't answer if this could be used to solo mine coins like PXC?
Thanks


Title: Re: neoscrypt algo for ccminer and nvidia card: call for donation
Post by: djm34 on February 08, 2015, 08:09:47 PM
I was wondering how this works with a GTX760 or GTX660Ti and if you can solo mine with the latest version or any version yet?
I have a few BTC but must know how its working with the cards above before making a pledge. I also have a few GTX 480's
will this work with older cards such as those?
For the moment it doesn't work for cards using compute version below compute 3.5
I will look into this tonight, it shouldn't take too long however  in terms of performance it won't be as fast as the compute 52
Could you be a little more clear with your answer about compute version and what cards?
For the moment anything below the 780 and Titan aren't supported.
I did a few test this afternoon with my 660, and there are still a few problem to solve. Also the speed isn't great... mostly because those cards don't have enough registers...

Also you didn't answer if this could be used to solo mine coins like PXC?
Yes the current version support solo mining (was able to solo mine a few ftc blocks as well as pxc), however it gets also many rejected (meaning the target isn't optimal for solo) but it works


Title: Re: neoscrypt algo for ccminer and nvidia card: call for donation
Post by: zTheWolfz on February 09, 2015, 07:39:38 AM
I was wondering how this works with a GTX760 or GTX660Ti and if you can solo mine with the latest version or any version yet?
I have a few BTC but must know how its working with the cards above before making a pledge. I also have a few GTX 480's
will this work with older cards such as those?
For the moment it doesn't work for cards using compute version below compute 3.5
I will look into this tonight, it shouldn't take too long however  in terms of performance it won't be as fast as the compute 52
Could you be a little more clear with your answer about compute version and what cards?
For the moment anything below the 780 and Titan aren't supported.
I did a few test this afternoon with my 660, and there are still a few problem to solve. Also the speed isn't great... mostly because those cards don't have enough registers...

Also you didn't answer if this could be used to solo mine coins like PXC?
Yes the current version support solo mining (was able to solo mine a few ftc blocks as well as pxc), however it gets also many rejected (meaning the target isn't optimal for solo) but it works
Dang I was all set to send some money, but if it will not help my speed with the cards I have no since in doing that.
The 660 & 760 are the newest cards I have at this time from Nvidia. :-( I have enough EVGA bucks built up to get a 750Ti
but was holding off for a better upgrade than that to spend my bucks on.
Thanks for your honesty.


Title: Re: neoscrypt algo for ccminer and nvidia card: call for donation
Post by: chrysophylax on February 09, 2015, 09:16:33 AM
I was wondering how this works with a GTX760 or GTX660Ti and if you can solo mine with the latest version or any version yet?
I have a few BTC but must know how its working with the cards above before making a pledge. I also have a few GTX 480's
will this work with older cards such as those?
For the moment it doesn't work for cards using compute version below compute 3.5
I will look into this tonight, it shouldn't take too long however  in terms of performance it won't be as fast as the compute 52
Could you be a little more clear with your answer about compute version and what cards?
For the moment anything below the 780 and Titan aren't supported.
I did a few test this afternoon with my 660, and there are still a few problem to solve. Also the speed isn't great... mostly because those cards don't have enough registers...

Also you didn't answer if this could be used to solo mine coins like PXC?
Yes the current version support solo mining (was able to solo mine a few ftc blocks as well as pxc), however it gets also many rejected (meaning the target isn't optimal for solo) but it works
Dang I was all set to send some money, but if it will not help my speed with the cards I have no since in doing that.
The 660 & 760 are the newest cards I have at this time from Nvidia. :-( I have enough EVGA bucks built up to get a 750Ti
but was holding off for a better upgrade than that to spend my bucks on.
Thanks or you honesty.

i had similar - but i changed ALL my AMD cards to the gigabyte 750ti oc lp cards ( low profile ) ... they were cheaper than any of the other cards out there and took up almost half ( yes - half ) the space as well as not having any power connectors - so all the power comes from the powered risers - which also meant a VERY low max power input ( about 60W each card as opposed to almost 300W per card with the gigabyte 280x oc ) ...

and hash - damn do these things hash ... and are very stable if you dont play with overclocking - too much ... i have mine all stock ...

the money i save on space ( yes - i saved money that way too - the farm takes a bit ) - on density - on power - on heat ...

win all round ... admittedly - they dont hash as hard as the bigger cards - but i can get almost 3 cards per for every 980 - and less than half the power usage ... so in the long term for mining - it means a MUCH less power bill ...

but then again - i am in australia - and this place has one of the highest electricity charges in the world ...

so i went ahead and bought ( and built ) 46 x gigabyte 750ti oc lp and STILL had money to get all the motherboards and psu's and risers and cpu's and ram ;) ... the farm is no where near finished as well ...

so MY opinion is simple - if you can afford to do it - just do it ...

you are better off with the better cards than you have - until the next great card nvidia ( or amd ) bring out ... then swap again ;) ...

#crysx


Title: Re: neoscrypt algo for ccminer and nvidia card: call for donation
Post by: galawant on February 09, 2015, 12:30:11 PM
Hello, great work here!

Just sent 0,03btc for windows miner

transaction id: c3720893d15ae634e7701fc31d06476b9d1620be834703950262a0a554ce7f57

Edit:

And please, if you have the possibility send me a PM here with the info when the payment is confirmed, my email provider tend to sort a lot of mail as spam so some things doesn't come through properly :(


Title: Re: neoscrypt algo for ccminer and nvidia card: call for donation
Post by: djm34 on February 09, 2015, 02:28:09 PM
Hello, great work here!

Just sent 0,03btc for windows miner

transaction id: c3720893d15ae634e7701fc31d06476b9d1620be834703950262a0a554ce7f57

Edit:

And please, if you have the possibility send me a PM here with the info when the payment is confirmed, my email provider tend to sort a lot of mail as spam so some things doesn't come through properly :(
done... also I don't have your email so I don't have many choice.


Title: Re: neoscrypt algo for ccminer and nvidia card: call for donation
Post by: galawant on February 09, 2015, 02:43:11 PM
Hello, great work here!

Just sent 0,03btc for windows miner

transaction id: c3720893d15ae634e7701fc31d06476b9d1620be834703950262a0a554ce7f57

Edit:

And please, if you have the possibility send me a PM here with the info when the payment is confirmed, my email provider tend to sort a lot of mail as spam so some things doesn't come through properly :(
done... also I don't have your email so I don't have many choice.

ohh right, bummer :D
Anyways, thanks!


Title: Re: neoscrypt algo for ccminer and nvidia card: call for donation
Post by: tbearhere on February 10, 2015, 11:07:46 AM
http://s26.postimg.org/u1ml07j51/lyra.jpg (http://postimg.org/image/u1ml07j51/)
Latest lyra.
Still on the 750ti ..the one that has the video out hooked up for this computer ...low hash.
But it will have 450kh/s if I put it on my rig. For some reason the hash is very low on the card that has video out used.
My rig has no video out hooked up so it will give 450kh/s per 750ti  no over clocking.
I'll try on my rig later.
the driver of that card has probably crashed at some point. You should reboot your rig.
If it isn't enough try also to add --throughput 3
Yes thank you djm ..right now i'm having major problems with anything related to display. My computer( video ) is flashing on and off and 2 more cards seem to die..total of three. I have 4 cards on this computer. ... and my last card on this computer isn't working properly... still flashing on and off. Still working just to get my display to work properly. My display setting is the same before the crash and web pages and video movies are fine but the icons are extremely big and it's still flashing on and off once in awhile. This flashing on and off has been happening for a long time, but yesterday ... complete crash. So I took out the 3 cards and put this 4th card on the mobo all by itself. I'm going to do a clean reinstall the latest driver again and see if that works.
I noticed when I had the 4 cards working, and mined with the first version, that the hashrate was good on 3 cards but one was very low like shown here. It must be the one on the mobo that's doing the low hashrate so I'll try --throughput 3 when I can.

EDIT: --throughput 3  seems to work ... got 147kh/s ...now reinstalling the drivers.
;D (sorry...) you beat us all regarding computer problems  ;D

Are you sure the monitor cable is properly plugged, this can cause this kind of effect especially with those dvi cable which are particularly heavy.

That's not all...  ;D my mouse drivers won't work properly and some other issues too like my icons load twice on bootup... :o Have to call HP support and microsoft .. Maybe my cards are ok.. :D
EDIT: Yes thx the hdmi cable seems fine. And doing   sfc /scannow    command ... may help.
Ok sfc /scannow worked and one card crashed and died so I had to reinstall precision x and drivers. A lot of corrupted files .. most were repaired. The flashing has almost stopped ..but computer working 99% better. The flashing maybe my monitor.


Title: Re: neoscrypt algo for ccminer and nvidia card: call for donation
Post by: djm34 on February 10, 2015, 12:40:22 PM
http://s26.postimg.org/u1ml07j51/lyra.jpg (http://postimg.org/image/u1ml07j51/)
Latest lyra.
Still on the 750ti ..the one that has the video out hooked up for this computer ...low hash.
But it will have 450kh/s if I put it on my rig. For some reason the hash is very low on the card that has video out used.
My rig has no video out hooked up so it will give 450kh/s per 750ti  no over clocking.
I'll try on my rig later.
the driver of that card has probably crashed at some point. You should reboot your rig.
If it isn't enough try also to add --throughput 3
Yes thank you djm ..right now i'm having major problems with anything related to display. My computer( video ) is flashing on and off and 2 more cards seem to die..total of three. I have 4 cards on this computer. ... and my last card on this computer isn't working properly... still flashing on and off. Still working just to get my display to work properly. My display setting is the same before the crash and web pages and video movies are fine but the icons are extremely big and it's still flashing on and off once in awhile. This flashing on and off has been happening for a long time, but yesterday ... complete crash. So I took out the 3 cards and put this 4th card on the mobo all by itself. I'm going to do a clean reinstall the latest driver again and see if that works.
I noticed when I had the 4 cards working, and mined with the first version, that the hashrate was good on 3 cards but one was very low like shown here. It must be the one on the mobo that's doing the low hashrate so I'll try --throughput 3 when I can.

EDIT: --throughput 3  seems to work ... got 147kh/s ...now reinstalling the drivers.
;D (sorry...) you beat us all regarding computer problems  ;D

Are you sure the monitor cable is properly plugged, this can cause this kind of effect especially with those dvi cable which are particularly heavy.

That's not all...  ;D my mouse drivers won't work properly and some other issues too like my icons load twice on bootup... :o Have to call HP support and microsoft .. Maybe my cards are ok.. :D
EDIT: Yes thx the hdmi cable seems fine. And doing   sfc /scannow    command ... may help.
Ok sfc /scannow worked and one card crashed and died so I had to reinstall precision x and drivers. A lot of corrupted files .. most were repaired. The flashing has almost stopped ..but computer working 99% better. The flashing maybe my monitor.
If there are many corrupted files, may-be reinstalling the whole system could help (could be a hdd problem too... since it is rather frequent in your case).
What you should do is to reinstall the whole system, then back it up using norton ghost or else and each time a problem happen just use the back up to do a clean install...


Title: Re: neoscrypt algo for ccminer and nvidia card: call for donation
Post by: joeybada$$ on February 11, 2015, 03:42:52 AM
Date: 2/10/2015 22:41
To: 18UZRrybgjmR4M53Aca4Q8YBguqErZ5qaP
Debit: -0.02 BTC
Transaction fee: -0.0002 BTC
Net amount: -0.0202 BTC
Transaction ID: e35e9d3fe347cdf9130905a4cdb206d70c1f62dfbf84018e230e296671c6cf61


sent in donation


Title: Re: neoscrypt algo for ccminer and nvidia card: call for donation
Post by: GES on February 15, 2015, 10:05:02 AM
this algorithm not favorable especially so also the paid was made by a mayner, here what sense to pay if it is easier to take not new 290kh and to rejoice?

it was favorable when the bitok cost 700-1000 dollars and now sense from mayner to exhaust the last money?


Title: Re: neoscrypt algo for ccminer and nvidia card: call for donation
Post by: djm34 on February 15, 2015, 11:26:04 AM
this algorithm not favorable especially so also the paid was made by a mayner, here what sense to pay if it is easier to take not new 290kh and to rejoice?

it was favorable when the bitok cost 700-1000 dollars and now sense from mayner to exhaust the last money?
your message doesn't make any sense at all....and I am not a mayner (whatever it is is) and if you can't exhaust 0.02 bitok in my direction, well you won't the algo... and seriously like if 0.02bitok was like exhausting the last money...  ;D

to take not new 290kh and to rejoice  ???  ;D


Title: Re: neoscrypt algo for ccminer and nvidia card: call for donation
Post by: thevictimofuktyranny on February 16, 2015, 02:30:45 AM
djm34  ;D

Are you making anymore progress on getting the hashrate higher on Nvidia 750ti cards?

Thanks





Title: Re: neoscrypt algo for ccminer and nvidia card: call for donation
Post by: djm34 on February 16, 2015, 11:03:15 AM
djm34  ;D

Are you making anymore progress on getting the hashrate higher on Nvidia 750ti cards?

Thanks
not for the moment, the next stage to get some significant increases will require a complete rewrite of some of the algo...
The problem at the moment is more to get it to work with compute 3.0... (even though, the speed won't be great...)


Title: Re: neoscrypt algo for ccminer and nvidia card: call for donation
Post by: thevictimofuktyranny on February 16, 2015, 03:27:48 PM
djm34  ;D

Are you making anymore progress on getting the hashrate higher on Nvidia 750ti cards?

Thanks
not for the moment, the next stage to get some significant increases will require a complete rewrite of some of the algo...
The problem at the moment is more to get it to work with compute 3.0... (even though, the speed won't be great...)

I would imagine, though I cannot be say with any confidence :P

Trying to add support for legacy cards is going to be a waste of time, if you are going to need to re-write the algo to improve performance ::)



Title: Re: neoscrypt algo for ccminer and nvidia card: call for donation
Post by: rednoW on February 16, 2015, 04:06:09 PM
Trying to add support for legacy cards is going to be a waste of time,
It is, without any 'if' ...


Title: Re: neoscrypt algo for ccminer and nvidia card: call for donation
Post by: djm34 on February 16, 2015, 05:22:40 PM
Trying to add support for legacy cards is going to be a waste of time,
It is, without any 'if' ...
except there are people with older card who have donated...
also  600/700 serie cards can't really be considered as legacy either...


Title: Re: neoscrypt algo for ccminer and nvidia card: call for donation
Post by: tbearhere on February 16, 2015, 07:23:00 PM
http://s26.postimg.org/u1ml07j51/lyra.jpg (http://postimg.org/image/u1ml07j51/)
Latest lyra.
Still on the 750ti ..the one that has the video out hooked up for this computer ...low hash.
But it will have 450kh/s if I put it on my rig. For some reason the hash is very low on the card that has video out used.
My rig has no video out hooked up so it will give 450kh/s per 750ti  no over clocking.
I'll try on my rig later.
the driver of that card has probably crashed at some point. You should reboot your rig.
If it isn't enough try also to add --throughput 3
Yes thank you djm ..right now i'm having major problems with anything related to display. My computer( video ) is flashing on and off and 2 more cards seem to die..total of three. I have 4 cards on this computer. ... and my last card on this computer isn't working properly... still flashing on and off. Still working just to get my display to work properly. My display setting is the same before the crash and web pages and video movies are fine but the icons are extremely big and it's still flashing on and off once in awhile. This flashing on and off has been happening for a long time, but yesterday ... complete crash. So I took out the 3 cards and put this 4th card on the mobo all by itself. I'm going to do a clean reinstall the latest driver again and see if that works.
I noticed when I had the 4 cards working, and mined with the first version, that the hashrate was good on 3 cards but one was very low like shown here. It must be the one on the mobo that's doing the low hashrate so I'll try --throughput 3 when I can.

EDIT: --throughput 3  seems to work ... got 147kh/s ...now reinstalling the drivers.
;D (sorry...) you beat us all regarding computer problems  ;D

Are you sure the monitor cable is properly plugged, this can cause this kind of effect especially with those dvi cable which are particularly heavy.

That's not all...  ;D my mouse drivers won't work properly and some other issues too like my icons load twice on bootup... :o Have to call HP support and microsoft .. Maybe my cards are ok.. :D
EDIT: Yes thx the hdmi cable seems fine. And doing   sfc /scannow    command ... may help.
Ok sfc /scannow worked and one card crashed and died so I had to reinstall precision x and drivers. A lot of corrupted files .. most were repaired. The flashing has almost stopped ..but computer working 99% better. The flashing maybe my monitor.
If there are many corrupted files, may-be reinstalling the whole system could help (could be a hdd problem too... since it is rather frequent in your case).
What you should do is to reinstall the whole system, then back it up using norton ghost or else and each time a problem happen just use the back up to do a clean install...
Sorry been so long. I fixed most up in 2 hrs.....card burned out and it crashed drivers and evga precision x and there where alot of corrupted files. The flashing is my cheap tv monitor ...it even flashes to a different channel sometimes.   >:(
Now I get 66% rejects at nice hash but hash rate looks like this. No overclocking.
http://s26.postimg.org/482yyrcmd/Lyra.jpg (http://postimg.org/image/482yyrcmd/)


Title: Re: neoscrypt algo for ccminer and nvidia card: call for donation
Post by: thevictimofuktyranny on February 16, 2015, 07:44:59 PM
http://s26.postimg.org/u1ml07j51/lyra.jpg (http://postimg.org/image/u1ml07j51/)
Latest lyra.
Still on the 750ti ..the one that has the video out hooked up for this computer ...low hash.
But it will have 450kh/s if I put it on my rig. For some reason the hash is very low on the card that has video out used.
My rig has no video out hooked up so it will give 450kh/s per 750ti  no over clocking.
I'll try on my rig later.
the driver of that card has probably crashed at some point. You should reboot your rig.
If it isn't enough try also to add --throughput 3
Yes thank you djm ..right now i'm having major problems with anything related to display. My computer( video ) is flashing on and off and 2 more cards seem to die..total of three. I have 4 cards on this computer. ... and my last card on this computer isn't working properly... still flashing on and off. Still working just to get my display to work properly. My display setting is the same before the crash and web pages and video movies are fine but the icons are extremely big and it's still flashing on and off once in awhile. This flashing on and off has been happening for a long time, but yesterday ... complete crash. So I took out the 3 cards and put this 4th card on the mobo all by itself. I'm going to do a clean reinstall the latest driver again and see if that works.
I noticed when I had the 4 cards working, and mined with the first version, that the hashrate was good on 3 cards but one was very low like shown here. It must be the one on the mobo that's doing the low hashrate so I'll try --throughput 3 when I can.

EDIT: --throughput 3  seems to work ... got 147kh/s ...now reinstalling the drivers.
;D (sorry...) you beat us all regarding computer problems  ;D

Are you sure the monitor cable is properly plugged, this can cause this kind of effect especially with those dvi cable which are particularly heavy.

That's not all...  ;D my mouse drivers won't work properly and some other issues too like my icons load twice on bootup... :o Have to call HP support and microsoft .. Maybe my cards are ok.. :D
EDIT: Yes thx the hdmi cable seems fine. And doing   sfc /scannow    command ... may help.
Ok sfc /scannow worked and one card crashed and died so I had to reinstall precision x and drivers. A lot of corrupted files .. most were repaired. The flashing has almost stopped ..but computer working 99% better. The flashing maybe my monitor.
If there are many corrupted files, may-be reinstalling the whole system could help (could be a hdd problem too... since it is rather frequent in your case).
What you should do is to reinstall the whole system, then back it up using norton ghost or else and each time a problem happen just use the back up to do a clean install...
Sorry been so long. I fixed most up in 2 hrs.....card burned out and it crashed drivers and evga precision x and there where alot of corrupted files. The flashing is my cheap tv monitor ...it even flashes to a different channel sometimes.   >:(
Now I get 66% rejects at nice hash but hash rate looks like this. No overclocking.
http://s26.postimg.org/482yyrcmd/Lyra.jpg (http://postimg.org/image/482yyrcmd/)

Hi, you need to mine directly at "The Block Factory", they have neoscrypt coins IPC, FTC, GUN, PXI. Currently, FTC is paying the most compared to Nicehash (2.89BTC per GHs at current average difficulty of 8.5).

You get 100% acceptance rate, unfortunately, there are few problems with Nicehash; it has a poor acceptance rate.

Bat file:
ccminer.exe -a neoscrypt -o stratum+tcp://fr.ftc.theblocksfactory.com:3333  -u djm34.1_diff128  -p password -d 0,1 --throughput 3.5

 


Title: Re: neoscrypt algo for ccminer and nvidia card: call for donation
Post by: djm34 on February 16, 2015, 07:48:31 PM
http://s26.postimg.org/u1ml07j51/lyra.jpg (http://postimg.org/image/u1ml07j51/)
Latest lyra.
Still on the 750ti ..the one that has the video out hooked up for this computer ...low hash.
But it will have 450kh/s if I put it on my rig. For some reason the hash is very low on the card that has video out used.
My rig has no video out hooked up so it will give 450kh/s per 750ti  no over clocking.
I'll try on my rig later.
the driver of that card has probably crashed at some point. You should reboot your rig.
If it isn't enough try also to add --throughput 3
Yes thank you djm ..right now i'm having major problems with anything related to display. My computer( video ) is flashing on and off and 2 more cards seem to die..total of three. I have 4 cards on this computer. ... and my last card on this computer isn't working properly... still flashing on and off. Still working just to get my display to work properly. My display setting is the same before the crash and web pages and video movies are fine but the icons are extremely big and it's still flashing on and off once in awhile. This flashing on and off has been happening for a long time, but yesterday ... complete crash. So I took out the 3 cards and put this 4th card on the mobo all by itself. I'm going to do a clean reinstall the latest driver again and see if that works.
I noticed when I had the 4 cards working, and mined with the first version, that the hashrate was good on 3 cards but one was very low like shown here. It must be the one on the mobo that's doing the low hashrate so I'll try --throughput 3 when I can.

EDIT: --throughput 3  seems to work ... got 147kh/s ...now reinstalling the drivers.
;D (sorry...) you beat us all regarding computer problems  ;D

Are you sure the monitor cable is properly plugged, this can cause this kind of effect especially with those dvi cable which are particularly heavy.

That's not all...  ;D my mouse drivers won't work properly and some other issues too like my icons load twice on bootup... :o Have to call HP support and microsoft .. Maybe my cards are ok.. :D
EDIT: Yes thx the hdmi cable seems fine. And doing   sfc /scannow    command ... may help.
Ok sfc /scannow worked and one card crashed and died so I had to reinstall precision x and drivers. A lot of corrupted files .. most were repaired. The flashing has almost stopped ..but computer working 99% better. The flashing maybe my monitor.
If there are many corrupted files, may-be reinstalling the whole system could help (could be a hdd problem too... since it is rather frequent in your case).
What you should do is to reinstall the whole system, then back it up using norton ghost or else and each time a problem happen just use the back up to do a clean install...
Sorry been so long. I fixed most up in 2 hrs.....card burned out and it crashed drivers and evga precision x and there where alot of corrupted files. The flashing is my cheap tv monitor ...it even flashes to a different channel sometimes.   >:(
Now I get 66% rejects at nice hash but hash rate looks like this. No overclocking.
http://s26.postimg.org/482yyrcmd/Lyra.jpg (http://postimg.org/image/482yyrcmd/)
you need to use "--diff 0.5" (was already mentioned on the thread) (or alternatively blockfactory without difficulty adjustment)


Title: Re: neoscrypt algo for ccminer and nvidia card: call for donation
Post by: tbearhere on February 16, 2015, 08:29:17 PM
Now I get 66% rejects at nice hash but hash rate looks like this. No overclocking.
http://s26.postimg.org/482yyrcmd/Lyra.jpg (http://postimg.org/image/482yyrcmd/)
[/quote]
you need to use "--diff 0.5" (was already mentioned on the thread) (or alternatively blockfactory without difficulty adjustment)
[/quote]
That gave me 0% but hash showed good on the command window. Reading back in the thread to see the --diff 0.5.

ccminer.exe -a neoscrypt   --throughput 3 -o stratum+tcp://stratum.nicehash.com:3341

EDIT:  Ok for my 750ti no oc working 100%       ccminer.exe -a neoscrypt   --throughput 3  --diff 0.5  -o stratum+tcp://stratum.nicehash.com:3341
That did it djm ...thanks

http://s26.postimg.org/tjc9t0alh/image.jpg (http://postimg.org/image/tjc9t0alh/)


Title: Re: neoscrypt algo for ccminer and nvidia card: call for donation
Post by: tbearhere on February 16, 2015, 09:10:50 PM

[/quote]

Hi, you need to mine directly at "The Block Factory", they have neoscrypt coins IPC, FTC, GUN, PXI. Currently, FTC is paying the most compared to Nicehash (2.89BTC per GHs at current average difficulty of 8.5).

You get 100% acceptance rate, unfortunately, there are few problems with Nicehash; it has a poor acceptance rate.

Bat file:
ccminer.exe -a neoscrypt -o stratum+tcp://fr.ftc.theblocksfactory.com:3333  -u djm34.1_diff128  -p password -d 0,1 --throughput 3.5

 
[/quote]
@thevictimofuktyranny  thanks


Title: Re: neoscrypt algo for ccminer and nvidia card: call for donation
Post by: IncludeBeer on February 25, 2015, 03:50:44 AM
Hey all, is the crowdfunding for this still in progress?  I'd be more than happy to contribute to promising development like this if I can get my hands on such a smart miner :)


Title: Re: neoscrypt algo for ccminer and nvidia card: call for donation
Post by: djm34 on February 25, 2015, 12:59:48 PM
Hey all, is the crowdfunding for this still in progress?  I'd be more than happy to contribute to promising development like this if I can get my hands on such a smart miner :)
it has been a little slow but yes.
You'll get the miner if you give a small donation (0.02btc minimum)


Title: Re: neoscrypt algo for ccminer and nvidia card: call for donation
Post by: IncludeBeer on February 25, 2015, 06:31:14 PM
Hey all, is the crowdfunding for this still in progress?  I'd be more than happy to contribute to promising development like this if I can get my hands on such a smart miner :)
it has been a little slow but yes.
You'll get the miner if you give a small donation (0.02btc minimum)

Great!  I just sent my donation.  Couldn't find where to see transaction ID on Bittrex though, so I took a screenshot :/

EDIT: Found the TxId! :) 9ae52cffc2fb476a9be03bdfa76049d6f7443cfc69a69557bb1b21c771b52fec


Title: Re: neoscrypt algo for ccminer and nvidia card: call for donation
Post by: IncludeBeer on February 26, 2015, 05:06:22 AM
Just wanted to say I have the miner up and running on my gtx 980.  Very good work, djm34!  Keep it up, it's exciting to see developers making strides like this!


Title: Re: neoscrypt algo for ccminer and nvidia card: call for donation
Post by: Joltheadq on February 28, 2015, 05:17:33 PM
donation 0.06 with https://blockchain.info/tx/f385d89d13d2f29408bc9cb35603a5995def12134e652518011c2cdcb1e39095


Title: Re: neoscrypt algo for ccminer and nvidia card: call for donation
Post by: IncludeBeer on March 05, 2015, 06:39:08 PM
Anyone else using Coinotron see a discrepancy with hash rate?  With the latest miner from djm34, I get ~630khz on my gtx 980.  However, Coinotron consistently shows 270-300khz.  Usually you only see this big of a difference with very low hash rates.  I was just curiousif this is a known issue, and/or what the solution is.  Thanks!


Title: Re: neoscrypt algo for ccminer and nvidia card: call for donation
Post by: djm34 on March 06, 2015, 04:49:38 PM
Anyone else using Coinotron see a discrepancy with hash rate?  With the latest miner from djm34, I get ~630khz on my gtx 980.  However, Coinotron consistently shows 270-300khz.  Usually you only see this big of a difference with very low hash rates.  I was just curiousif this is a known issue, and/or what the solution is.  Thanks!
may-be you can try to use --diff 0.5  not sure it will really help, it can be that you are requesting share at a certain level of difficulty and miss all the share at lower difficulty.


Title: Re: neoscrypt algo for ccminer and nvidia card: call for donation
Post by: IncludeBeer on March 07, 2015, 02:10:42 AM
Anyone else using Coinotron see a discrepancy with hash rate?  With the latest miner from djm34, I get ~630khz on my gtx 980.  However, Coinotron consistently shows 270-300khz.  Usually you only see this big of a difference with very low hash rates.  I was just curiousif this is a known issue, and/or what the solution is.  Thanks!
may-be you can try to use --diff 0.5  not sure it will really help, it can be that you are requesting share at a certain level of difficulty and miss all the share at lower difficulty.


Sorry, forgot to include my config:
ccminer.exe -a neoscrypt --throughput 3 --diff 0.5 -o stratum+tcp://coinotron.com:3337 -u NewbieMiner.gpu -p derpy

If I don't use the --diff 0.5, i get boo's about 2/3 the time. I figure it might be something to do with difficulty and how Coinotron calculates hashrate on their side.  Perhaps with this setting diff to 0.5, my shares are worth less, therefore they calculate my hashrate to be less?  I'm really just pullin things outta my ass here; it's all conjecture.


Title: Re: neoscrypt algo for ccminer and nvidia card: call for donation
Post by: djm34 on March 07, 2015, 04:07:04 AM
Anyone else using Coinotron see a discrepancy with hash rate?  With the latest miner from djm34, I get ~630khz on my gtx 980.  However, Coinotron consistently shows 270-300khz.  Usually you only see this big of a difference with very low hash rates.  I was just curiousif this is a known issue, and/or what the solution is.  Thanks!
may-be you can try to use --diff 0.5  not sure it will really help, it can be that you are requesting share at a certain level of difficulty and miss all the share at lower difficulty.


Sorry, forgot to include my config:
ccminer.exe -a neoscrypt --throughput 3 --diff 0.5 -o stratum+tcp://coinotron.com:3337 -u NewbieMiner.gpu -p derpy

If I don't use the --diff 0.5, i get boo's about 2/3 the time. I figure it might be something to do with difficulty and how Coinotron calculates hashrate on their side.  Perhaps with this setting diff to 0.5, my shares are worth less, therefore they calculate my hashrate to be less?  I'm really just pullin things outta my ass here; it's all conjecture.
yes the --diff 0.5 is linked to the way they set their difficulty. The share aren't worht less, you may just get less shares than you should.
It is a bit tricky to set.
I tried to use coinotron some times ago and I noticed that very large pool reports fantasist hashrate for small miners... also they don't seem to do diff retargetting meaning all your shares have the same value.

so unless you have a huge farm, it would probably better to go to an other pool.
May-be you could try yamp or smaller pool... (blockfactory is the one I use, hashrate is well reported... never saw any big discrepancies in hashrate)


Title: Re: neoscrypt algo for ccminer and nvidia card: call for donation
Post by: tflmike on March 08, 2015, 05:49:41 PM
Hi

Just sent my donation for the Windows version ccMiner NeoScrypt, Nice Work keep it up

Net amount: 0.03000262 BTC
Transaction ID: 3e1819bc7dc5abe9cd5d80bcfcb81a82b7e8d08cf43753e7fe49f77af545480d-000


Title: Re: neoscrypt algo for ccminer and nvidia card: call for donation
Post by: IncludeBeer on March 08, 2015, 09:27:19 PM
Anyone else using Coinotron see a discrepancy with hash rate?  With the latest miner from djm34, I get ~630khz on my gtx 980.  However, Coinotron consistently shows 270-300khz.  Usually you only see this big of a difference with very low hash rates.  I was just curiousif this is a known issue, and/or what the solution is.  Thanks!
may-be you can try to use --diff 0.5  not sure it will really help, it can be that you are requesting share at a certain level of difficulty and miss all the share at lower difficulty.


Sorry, forgot to include my config:
ccminer.exe -a neoscrypt --throughput 3 --diff 0.5 -o stratum+tcp://coinotron.com:3337 -u NewbieMiner.gpu -p derpy

If I don't use the --diff 0.5, i get boo's about 2/3 the time. I figure it might be something to do with difficulty and how Coinotron calculates hashrate on their side.  Perhaps with this setting diff to 0.5, my shares are worth less, therefore they calculate my hashrate to be less?  I'm really just pullin things outta my ass here; it's all conjecture.
yes the --diff 0.5 is linked to the way they set their difficulty. The share aren't worht less, you may just get less shares than you should.
It is a bit tricky to set.
I tried to use coinotron some times ago and I noticed that very large pool reports fantasist hashrate for small miners... also they don't seem to do diff retargetting meaning all your shares have the same value.

so unless you have a huge farm, it would probably better to go to an other pool.
May-be you could try yamp or smaller pool... (blockfactory is the one I use, hashrate is well reported... never saw any big discrepancies in hashrate)

Thanks for the feedback!  I made an account at blocksFactory and let it run ~12 hours.
http://i60.tinypic.com/5n2j3s.png
As can be seen, the miner is still rockin at ~630 kh/s, the difficulty they show for the worker is 64, and the "3 hour", "12 hour" reported hashrates are consistent with what I was seeing at Coinotron.  I'll give it some more time and see if that kh/s reporting gap doesn't get closed a bit.


Title: Re: neoscrypt algo for ccminer and nvidia card: call for donation
Post by: djm34 on March 09, 2015, 03:18:27 AM
Anyone else using Coinotron see a discrepancy with hash rate?  With the latest miner from djm34, I get ~630khz on my gtx 980.  However, Coinotron consistently shows 270-300khz.  Usually you only see this big of a difference with very low hash rates.  I was just curiousif this is a known issue, and/or what the solution is.  Thanks!
may-be you can try to use --diff 0.5  not sure it will really help, it can be that you are requesting share at a certain level of difficulty and miss all the share at lower difficulty.


Sorry, forgot to include my config:
ccminer.exe -a neoscrypt --throughput 3 --diff 0.5 -o stratum+tcp://coinotron.com:3337 -u NewbieMiner.gpu -p derpy

If I don't use the --diff 0.5, i get boo's about 2/3 the time. I figure it might be something to do with difficulty and how Coinotron calculates hashrate on their side.  Perhaps with this setting diff to 0.5, my shares are worth less, therefore they calculate my hashrate to be less?  I'm really just pullin things outta my ass here; it's all conjecture.
yes the --diff 0.5 is linked to the way they set their difficulty. The share aren't worht less, you may just get less shares than you should.
It is a bit tricky to set.
I tried to use coinotron some times ago and I noticed that very large pool reports fantasist hashrate for small miners... also they don't seem to do diff retargetting meaning all your shares have the same value.

so unless you have a huge farm, it would probably better to go to an other pool.
May-be you could try yamp or smaller pool... (blockfactory is the one I use, hashrate is well reported... never saw any big discrepancies in hashrate)

Thanks for the feedback!  I made an account at blocksFactory and let it run ~12 hours.

As can be seen, the miner is still rockin at ~630 kh/s, the difficulty they show for the worker is 64, and the "3 hour", "12 hour" reported hashrates are consistent with what I was seeing at Coinotron.  I'll give it some more time and see if that kh/s reporting gap doesn't get closed a bit.
Yeah that's strange after 3hours... May-be try to rise the difficulty; 64 isn't a lot try to increase a bit.
I always had my hashrate reported rather well by blockfactory


Title: Re: neoscrypt algo for ccminer and nvidia card: call for donation
Post by: blue-yu on March 13, 2015, 06:42:21 PM
Any new versions, development? Or should we pay more?


Title: Re: neoscrypt algo for ccminer and nvidia card: call for donation
Post by: djm34 on March 14, 2015, 03:39:47 AM
Any new versions, development? Or should we pay more?

Hi, not for the moment, I have been working on some other algo.
Also neoscrypt was released after several optimizations were applied, so it is already pretty much optimized

It is probably possible to increase even more the performance (8 way algo) but would require a complete rewriting on most of the code...) may-be later

but if enough fund can be found, I can look again


Title: Re: neoscrypt algo for ccminer and nvidia card: call for donation
Post by: chrysophylax on March 14, 2015, 04:06:33 AM
Any new versions, development? Or should we pay more?

Hi, not for the moment, I have been working on some other algo.
Also neoscrypt was released after several optimizations were applied, so it is already pretty much optimized

It is probably possible to increase even more the performance (8 way algo) but would require a complete rewriting on most of the code...) may-be later

djm - would you release the source ( even privately if not publicly ) so that i can compile natively please? ...

that would be very much appreciated - and as always - will be very appreciative ...

it seems i am always stuck with the compiled miners after i have donated only to have them not work on my systems anyway ...

i have no issue mining as an extra donation to your address ( using the miner of course ) as a tanx - as i always do ...

pm me if you have any pre-requisites to this ...

#crysx


Title: Re: neoscrypt algo for ccminer and nvidia card: call for donation
Post by: djm34 on March 14, 2015, 11:50:41 AM
Any new versions, development? Or should we pay more?

Hi, not for the moment, I have been working on some other algo.
Also neoscrypt was released after several optimizations were applied, so it is already pretty much optimized

It is probably possible to increase even more the performance (8 way algo) but would require a complete rewriting on most of the code...) may-be later

djm - would you release the source ( even privately if not publicly ) so that i can compile natively please? ...

that would be very much appreciated - and as always - will be very appreciative ...

it seems i am always stuck with the compiled miners after i have donated only to have them not work on my systems anyway ...

i have no issue mining as an extra donation to your address ( using the miner of course ) as a tanx - as i always do ...

pm me if you have any pre-requisites to this ...

#crysx
I don't plan to release the source at the moment and as long as there will be people asking for it so that they don't donate for nothing (it wouldn't be fair to them)


Title: Re: neoscrypt algo for ccminer and nvidia card: call for donation
Post by: thefix on March 14, 2015, 12:14:06 PM
I just sent some Bitcoin to help with the fund and PMed you the transaction ID, I would love to get your miner when you get a chance.



Title: Re: neoscrypt algo for ccminer and nvidia card: call for donation
Post by: blue-yu on April 03, 2015, 08:14:24 AM
Just switched from Linux to Windows mining (mainly because of Miner Control under Windows). Mining Neoscrypt under Linux was rock solid, but under Windows is not so good. On my 6*750ti rig  I am using "--throughput 3,3,3,3,3,3 --diff 0.5" config, but had a lot of rejects with Yaamp. Another problem is that in the middle of mining one or few GPU's crush, so reboot is only solution.

So, do we need a new version of ccminer?

BR...


Title: Re: neoscrypt algo for ccminer and nvidia card: call for donation
Post by: djm34 on April 03, 2015, 11:40:34 AM
Just switched from Linux to Windows mining (mainly because of Miner Control under Windows). Mining Neoscrypt under Linux was rock solid, but under Windows is not so good. On my 6*750ti rig  I am using "--throughput 3,3,3,3,3,3 --diff 0.5" config, but had a lot of rejects with Yaamp. Another problem is that in the middle of mining one or few GPU's crush, so reboot is only solution.

So, do we need a new version of ccminer?

BR...
I think you should try to identify which card misbehave, then try to either decrease the OC or the throughput for these cards.

Regarding rejected shares, try to vary the diff, just in case (don't remember if it is exactly the same) say  2, 0.5 and 0.25.
also make sure you have a pagefile large enough (with 6 cards, the pagefile must be rather large, it is possible to check the graphics for all that with msi AB)


Title: Re: neoscrypt algo for ccminer and nvidia card: call for donation
Post by: thefix on April 04, 2015, 05:45:31 AM
Just switched from Linux to Windows mining (mainly because of Miner Control under Windows). Mining Neoscrypt under Linux was rock solid, but under Windows is not so good. On my 6*750ti rig  I am using "--throughput 3,3,3,3,3,3 --diff 0.5" config, but had a lot of rejects with Yaamp. Another problem is that in the middle of mining one or few GPU's crush, so reboot is only solution.

So, do we need a new version of ccminer?

BR...

Try --throughput 1

I run 6 x750ti and that works perfectly on all cards, anything above that and things crash


Title: Re: neoscrypt algo for ccminer and nvidia card: call for donation
Post by: blue-yu on April 08, 2015, 06:52:37 AM

Try --throughput 1

I run 6 x750ti and that works perfectly on all cards, anything above that and things crash

Do You use it with diff parameter or not?


Title: Re: neoscrypt algo for ccminer and nvidia card: call for donation
Post by: surfrider on April 08, 2015, 11:00:07 AM
just sent 0.03 donation.
transaction id: 31dc6852876d04836bb563d964454eb995d05ab10d398d6a6f77c69b6301be39

windows ccminer please.


Title: Re: neoscrypt algo for ccminer and nvidia card: call for donation
Post by: Slava_K on April 15, 2015, 09:00:35 PM
Sent 0.04 BTC.
Windows please...
transactio ID 658dba77e2bf084cf115fadd15fd6be6b93438711f5d8bffcce9155453907187


Title: Re: neoscrypt algo for ccminer and nvidia card: call for donation
Post by: thefix on April 16, 2015, 03:22:27 PM

Try --throughput 1

I run 6 x750ti and that works perfectly on all cards, anything above that and things crash

Do You use it with diff parameter or not?

I do not use diff parameter and I have been able to solo mine, pool mine and run on nicehash very stable.

Occasionally it will crash, but not often


Title: Re: neoscrypt algo for ccminer and nvidia card: call for donation
Post by: scryptr on April 20, 2015, 05:35:34 PM
DJM34 --

This thread has slowed some, but I hope readers still contribute.  I just sent another two-bits worth your way today.  I am hoping that the funding completes, maybe sp_ could crank it up even more.  :)

I discovered that with "--throughput 1", and no other additional flags, my GTX SSC 960 will hash at a reliable 325kh/s on Win 7 x64.  That is slightly better than a 780ti.  I have a couple GTX 970 FTW on the way, and will holler back when I get some data to report.       --scryptr


Title: Re: neoscrypt algo for ccminer and nvidia card: call for donation
Post by: thefix on April 22, 2015, 02:49:49 AM
DJM34 --

This thread has slowed some, but I hope readers still contribute.  I just sent another two-bits worth your way today.  I am hoping that the funding completes, maybe sp_ could crank it up even more.  :)

I discovered that with "--throughput 1", and no other additional flags, my GTX SSC 960 will hash at a reliable 325kh/s on Win 7 x64.  That is slightly better than a 780ti.  I have a couple GTX 970 FTW on the way, and will holler back when I get some data to report.       --scryptr


It will be interesting to hear how those GTX 970s do


Title: Re: neoscrypt algo for ccminer and nvidia card: call for donation
Post by: Epsylon3 on April 22, 2015, 08:50:13 AM
an overclocked asus strix 970 can do the same as a default evga 980


Title: Re: neoscrypt algo for ccminer and nvidia card: call for donation
Post by: djm34 on April 23, 2015, 01:37:22 PM
an overclocked asus strix 970 can do the same as a default evga 980
well but not as much as an overclocked 980  ;D


Title: Re: neoscrypt algo for ccminer and nvidia card: call for donation
Post by: lukabright on April 23, 2015, 06:04:50 PM
Sent 0.03 BTC.
Windows ccminer please...
transactio ID 3c506f947f46f37e550e0178089fb72550e5911df8cf2cec5112c107aa4d5f12


Title: Re: neoscrypt algo for ccminer and nvidia card: call for donation
Post by: Liquid71 on April 26, 2015, 10:29:00 PM
Sent 0.03 BTC.
Windows ccminer please...
transactio ID 3c506f947f46f37e550e0178089fb72550e5911df8cf2cec5112c107aa4d5f12

I also need the windows ccminer

sent 0.03094234  https://blockchain.info/tx/40fee17d9086e57f7f04ed96d8a292cbd7dd9dadf99804bdad895185e4bbb200 (https://blockchain.info/tx/40fee17d9086e57f7f04ed96d8a292cbd7dd9dadf99804bdad895185e4bbb200)

I sent a couple bucks in the past to you and the other devs that contribute to ccminer. Without you guys I wouldn't we wouldn't be able to mine. I'll never ROI but I'll always donate what I can when I can. Appreciate the work you guys do, cheers.


Title: Re: neoscrypt algo for ccminer and nvidia card: call for donation
Post by: thevictimofuktyranny on April 26, 2015, 11:54:33 PM
Sent 0.03 BTC.
Windows ccminer please...
transactio ID 3c506f947f46f37e550e0178089fb72550e5911df8cf2cec5112c107aa4d5f12

I also need the windows ccminer

sent 0.03094234  https://blockchain.info/tx/40fee17d9086e57f7f04ed96d8a292cbd7dd9dadf99804bdad895185e4bbb200 (https://blockchain.info/tx/40fee17d9086e57f7f04ed96d8a292cbd7dd9dadf99804bdad895185e4bbb200)

I sent a couple bucks in the past to you and the other devs that contribute to ccminer. Without you guys I wouldn't we wouldn't be able to mine. I'll never ROI but I'll always donate what I can when I can. Appreciate the work you guys do, cheers.

You need to buy some crypto currency as well as mine to get a reasonable return.


Title: Re: neoscrypt algo for ccminer and nvidia card: call for donation
Post by: djm34 on April 27, 2015, 02:23:04 AM
Sent 0.03 BTC.
Windows ccminer please...
transactio ID 3c506f947f46f37e550e0178089fb72550e5911df8cf2cec5112c107aa4d5f12

I also need the windows ccminer

sent 0.03094234  https://blockchain.info/tx/40fee17d9086e57f7f04ed96d8a292cbd7dd9dadf99804bdad895185e4bbb200 (https://blockchain.info/tx/40fee17d9086e57f7f04ed96d8a292cbd7dd9dadf99804bdad895185e4bbb200)

I sent a couple bucks in the past to you and the other devs that contribute to ccminer. Without you guys I wouldn't we wouldn't be able to mine. I'll never ROI but I'll always donate what I can when I can. Appreciate the work you guys do, cheers.
ok will send, It would be better though to send a pm rather than posting (I watch a lot less the forum than I used to...)
ROI is possible (at least for me  ;D), but it depends a lot of the coin you mine (and when...)


Title: Re: neoscrypt algo for ccminer and nvidia card: call for donation
Post by: Liquid71 on April 28, 2015, 12:24:18 AM
Sent 0.03 BTC.
Windows ccminer please...
transactio ID 3c506f947f46f37e550e0178089fb72550e5911df8cf2cec5112c107aa4d5f12

I also need the windows ccminer

sent 0.03094234  https://blockchain.info/tx/40fee17d9086e57f7f04ed96d8a292cbd7dd9dadf99804bdad895185e4bbb200 (https://blockchain.info/tx/40fee17d9086e57f7f04ed96d8a292cbd7dd9dadf99804bdad895185e4bbb200)

I sent a couple bucks in the past to you and the other devs that contribute to ccminer. Without you guys I wouldn't we wouldn't be able to mine. I'll never ROI but I'll always donate what I can when I can. Appreciate the work you guys do, cheers.
ok will send, It would be better though to send a pm rather than posting (I watch a lot less the forum than I used to...)
ROI is possible (at least for me  ;D), but it depends a lot of the coin you mine (and when...)
Thanks works perfect. I wasn't in a rush, I've been focusing on Quark lately so I didn't PM, wasn't worried about when you saw the post  ;D



Title: Re: neoscrypt algo for ccminer and nvidia card: call for donation
Post by: djm34 on May 02, 2015, 01:59:05 PM
hello,

I have released the source of neoscrypt algo.
It can be found at github/djm34/ccminer-tpsp in the "windows branch" (still have to deal with the other branch... for the moment
you can download the linux branch and copy the windows branch on top of it ( ;D)  should work)


even though it is now freely available, donations are still welcome...   ;D


Title: Re: neoscrypt algo for ccminer and nvidia card: call for donation
Post by: chrysophylax on May 02, 2015, 02:23:18 PM
hello,

I have released the source of neoscrypt algo.
It can be found at github/djm34/ccminer-tpsp in the "windows branch" (still have to deal with the other branch... for the moment
you can download the linux branch and copy the windows branch on top of it ( ;D)  should work)


even though it is now freely available, donations are still welcome...   ;D

tanx djm ...

there are a few things we have been working on and testing with sp - donation mining to your address via a donation link ...

if you are still working on the optimization - it would be a great way to have miners donate hashrate - rather than just btc ...

the test links have only been with sp for the moment - but you are one of the devs that we are setting these donation links with ...

wolf - tsiv - kbomba - just to name a few others ...

its all setup - but testing and polishing is already underway ( with ccminer-spmod ) ...

within the next week ( i hope ) - there will be all the other algos and devs links available for miners to donate hashrate by mining directly to the links ...

no matter how small or large the donation hashrate is - its all amalgamated and works together to mine for the donation address ( which is the devs donation address ) ...

we will have to setup and test the neoscrypt stratum - but not tonight ...

tanx again for your hard work and release ...

#crysx


Title: Re: neoscrypt algo for ccminer and nvidia card: call for donation
Post by: smolen on May 02, 2015, 06:57:24 PM
I have released the source of neoscrypt algo.
Code:
	data[19] = (stratum) ? cuda_swab32(nonce) : nonce; //freaking morons !!!
Brilliant!


Title: Re: neoscrypt algo for ccminer and nvidia card: call for donation
Post by: djm34 on May 02, 2015, 08:17:56 PM
I have released the source of neoscrypt algo.
Code:
	data[19] = (stratum) ? cuda_swab32(nonce) : nonce; //freaking morons !!!
Brilliant!
;D indeed


Title: Re: neoscrypt algo for ccminer and nvidia card: call for donation
Post by: scryptr on May 03, 2015, 12:37:13 AM
DJM34, THANK YOU! --

I just sent another two-bits your way, to the donation address.  I am very greatful for your work.  I hope that other users, watchers, miners, etc., will contribute at least .01 BTC for your hard work.  It runs smoothly on my Linux and Windows machines.

I also hope that other coders will incorporate your work into their ccminer releases, and perhaps improve upon it.  Often, Neoscrypt is the top-earning algo on many sites.       --scryptr


Title: Re: neoscrypt algo for ccminer and nvidia card: call for donation
Post by: sp_ on June 26, 2015, 07:32:23 AM
How fast is the latest private kernal?


Title: Re: neoscrypt algo for ccminer and nvidia card: call for donation
Post by: djm34 on June 26, 2015, 10:31:01 AM
How fast is the latest private kernal?
for the moment the 980 is running at 750kh/s, 780ti at 430kh/s, 750 at 186kh/s


Title: Re: neoscrypt algo for ccminer and nvidia card: call for donation
Post by: chrysophylax on June 26, 2015, 11:01:33 AM
How fast is the latest private kernal?
for the moment the 980 is running at 750kh/s, 780ti at 430kh/s, 750 at 186kh/s

and the 750ti djm? ...

#crysx


Title: Re: neoscrypt algo for ccminer and nvidia card: call for donation
Post by: djm34 on June 26, 2015, 12:18:02 PM
How fast is the latest private kernal?
for the moment the 980 is running at 750kh/s, 780ti at 430kh/s, 750 at 186kh/s

and the 750ti djm? ...

#crysx
it is a 750ti

edit: 770kh/s on 980


Title: Re: neoscrypt algo for ccminer and nvidia card: call for donation
Post by: chrysophylax on June 26, 2015, 01:41:48 PM
How fast is the latest private kernal?
for the moment the 980 is running at 750kh/s, 780ti at 430kh/s, 750 at 186kh/s

and the 750ti djm? ...

#crysx
it is a 750ti

edit: 770kh/s on 980

o ok ...

you just had it as a 750 ...

tanx mate ...

#crysx


Title: Re: neoscrypt algo for ccminer and nvidia card: call for donation
Post by: Slava_K on June 30, 2015, 12:25:15 AM
what i need to do to take latest build?


Title: Re: neoscrypt algo for ccminer and nvidia card: call for donation
Post by: djm34 on June 30, 2015, 08:56:12 AM
what i need to do to take latest build?
the latest build hasn't been released so far


Title: Re: neoscrypt algo for ccminer and nvidia card: call for donation
Post by: igotek on March 09, 2018, 06:47:42 PM
is this project alive ?


Title: Re: neoscrypt algo for ccminer and nvidia card: call for donation
Post by: tbearhere on October 16, 2018, 11:08:27 PM
is this project alive ?

ASICS are taking over this algo soon.  >:(