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http://www.coindesk.com/changetip-user-banned-isis/

Not sure what to make of this.
I understand the point he was making (see coin desk article) but think that what he did or attempted to do does not justify it.
BTC has a mixed picture in the outside world. This only portrays it worse not to mention the effect that supporting terrorists can have!

What do you think?

I think he shouldn't be able to and it is good that it was blocked!  It is a fast track to getting a service shut down, funding terrorism!
I'm not a huge fan of the whole tipping idea as a whole, but this kind of thing just adds to the negative press around bitcoin.

Well, because the Jews love their currency (USD) and hate Muslims (but of course do business with them)

Well he just donated 1$, and probably wanted to just test it.

Please, just shut up, also, make sure the links you post work the first time OP :D

The link works fine for me. Anyone else having any issues?  ???

What has that got to do with anything? I'm not sure who you're calling Jewish or Muslim here and why always with the bringing of religion into things.

Yeah, I think "freedom" is good, but there has to be a limit. I don't agree with funding terrorism or dealing drugs, though many crypo-enthusiasts seem to think that people should have unlimited freedom to do whatever they want, which is unfortunate.

Lol foolish man, he could have used Monero instead

BryceWiener Live EXCLUSIVE tonight, only at http://dogecoindark.net/radio/

8PM CST 3/6/2015

Has anyone noticed, it's always people with the B.W initials that do stupid/bad things? Bruce Wagner, Burt Wagner, now this guy.

Brian Warner:

http://cs9417.vk.me/u124646442/a_f49258ec.jpg

This evil musician inspired the Columbine nutjobs!

PS: Joking.

Support terrorism?! That is frigging ludicrous!

You wanna support something. Support pizza!
(btw if someone wants to buy me pizza.. <3)

Dunno, it worked fine for me after awhile but there was definitely something wrong with the link at first :P lmao I spot things fast sometimes, oh and this kind of reactionary shutting down of accounts is precisely why people should stick with cryptocurrencies.

Even if it's a joke it was a stupid idea. He agreed to Changetip's T&Cs when he signed up.

Who's Bryce Weiner and why is this guy a cock to know?

Supporters of ISIS will get their funds to those fucks in anyway possible - cash, bitcoin, arms, food, hostages, credit, euros, yen, yuang...

This guy Bryce is a terrorist supporter, there's not room for sarcasm or irony in moves like that.

Im reading this for the third damn time and still cant understand what was really his motive to do such a thing ?
Its an as**ole move in a way, but he also pointed to a very important issue of misuse of the service itself, so did he do more good than bad
really depends on what his original intention was, and i cant grasp to what it may be. A joke? Pointing at service misuse? Trying to damage company?

cheers

I support terrorism every time I pay taxes

watch that attempted $1 cost him thousands in legal fees when the US Govt decides to prosecute them on the grounds
of conspiracy aiding and abetting a terrorist organization.

Not sure why do he take the risk and send only $1 USD to ISIS. If he want to help ISIS.. he would sent big amount of Bitcoin and not use ChangeTip micro payment platform.

I think he didn't have the intent to send them money, but just create some troll, or make a joke out of it. But seems it went wrong.

They should maybe ban the internet in this region, use security teams to disarm the internet in this part of the world. The internet and network access is their recruiting tool, their threatening tool, their ONLY tool to the outside world. DISABLE THEM. EMP THEM. Send them to the damn stone age.

Has he ever commented on why he did this and tipped the ISIS for nothing ?

Looks like he got public anger towards himself for no reason. Seems it was meant as a joke but didn't end as one.

Wow! Really strange , why would he do it !
And even when the CEO (Nick Sullivan) of ChangeTip said it himself that he was banned , why would B. Weiner say that he asked them to close the account ?
Can't get a hold on his ideas, totally stupid attempt and big lie .

Unfortunately this is the world we live in sometimes... And they try to justify it too...

Give them .001BTC via ChangeTip, its funding "Terrorism".

Give them $100m via fronts in Oman, its funding "Regime Change"

These guys are bad news, but they have been state sponsored for a long time.

Agreed. Something else happened and we've just been told a cover story. Either way, whatever the point he was trying to make backfired. Oh well, guess it serves him right for trying to support a terrorist organisation whether ot was his goal or not.

Then you should do one of two things:

1) Vote to change the government you live under to not be the "terrorists" you think they are, or
2) Move to a place where the government is one that you don't deem as "terrorists"

In most societies, taxes paid are due to the fact that the citizens have voted to pay those taxes. If you don't agree with those taxes do something to organize your citizens to vote the taxes away or don't live in that jurisdiction.

Why do people feel they are so helpless?

Same as steal $100 and you're a thief, steal $1000M and you're a banker ;)

In summary:
1) Not going to happen in this lifetime.
2) Put up or shut up.....

So, sounds like a win for terrorists everywhere. At least the state sponsored ones. Maybe independent terrorists could sue under equal rights.

because of the first past the post electoral system

Almost right - steal $100M  you're a banker, steal $1000M and you're a banker President of the European Central Bank/ FED  :-)  ;D  ;D

We can only hope so nobody should be even joking about helping them scum bags, of course the US govt are no better but we are used to them now thats why they still hold the power

What? ISIS has got a bitcoin address for tipping purposes?

This Bryce Weiner guy really deserves a slap in the face I guess, just looking at ISIS' images on the news was horrifying for me.

If .001btc deserves a slap in the face. what does $123m get you?  The US has supported Idriss in Syria, who in essence (through his own weakness) funneled these funds directly to ISIS ( the ISIL, now IS) who were fighting on the same patch, but for their own goals. The short term goals of the US ( Regime change in Syria and Libya) have been the catalyst for the growth of these animals that are ISIS.

If you are going to be indignant about something, then be indignant about the big things. This guy did something that was stupid, but if i shines a light on how ISI came to be the force that it is now, then at least some good can come of it.

Maybe he is a big fan of beheading videos.

They've been using BTC for some time to raise funding for the terrorist activities. They've also started selling antique and historical pieces from museums that they claim 'doesn't represent Islam' and whatnot.
Basically they've been using Bitcoin for all the reasons we are against.

Wow.  Do you have the links to where we will find that? Sounds interesting.

Yes please do provide a link because i do not believe it these guys take over banks and oil fields what do they need with bitcoin? The price is far to low for them to have been in it. What i think you are confused with is scammers pretending to be them and taking coin from the fools that is the thing with fools they will be parted with their money unfortunately. 

Great way to be prosecuted for funding terrorism and sheds negative light on Bitcoin. Bravo.

There are quite a few articles. A simple search online will bring you quite a few sources. Here are just a few.
http://www.newsweek.com/2014/11/14/how-does-isis-fund-its-reign-terror-282607.html

http://securityintelligence.com/isis-are-they-using-bitcoins-to-fund-criminal-activities/#.VPo_gMXgHa8

http://m.benzinga.com/article/5195010

From the first article:

That alone would suggest you are wrong in your original assertion?

But in your defense, from the last article:


We should ignore all other sources and concentrate on this. its obviously key. :-)

Can you agree that Bitcoin is NOT a source of funding for ISIS?  The US dollar is.

Sorry, I didn't read all the articles. I simply copied the first few links from a quick search.
If you really want I could probably find some more accurate news articles.

Anyway, on your last point. Yes, IS ARENT receiving anywhere near as much as we'd expect from BTC however, it's something which they're slowly trying to use at an increased rate.
As it stands currently, it's probably true that most their funding comes from the dollar due to the oil and petrol they've been selling.

Ah, I see what you did there.  ;D  No evidence of this either?

Like I said earlier, the issue is the actual funding of Islamists in general. There is no point looking to blame Bitcoin, or in some way cite it in the rise of Isalmist teror. Thats just plain deception.

I mean, are you not outraged at the opening of oil exports out of Libya, from ports in the hands of current and former rebel leaders (Ibrahim Jathran for one) and a 'rival' prime minister with known links to Islamists (Omar al-Hassi)? Billions of dollars going directly to the Libyan central bank, and then to Islamists?

For what? So the price of a gallon of gas at the pumps is 30 cents cheaper. Now that, my friend, is something to be outraged over before being upset by some fools who misguidedly donate a few satoshi.

I'm not mad at Bitcoin at all. I'm very pro BTC. What I don't like is people abusing the freedom it offers for certain purposes.
This isn't a case of someone who accidentally tried to tip ISIS. The fact that whatever point he was trying to make shouldn't have been made with involving a terrorist organisation such as ISIS.

I didnt say accidentally. I said 'Misguidedly'.

I agree, but freedom cannot be conditional. You are either free to choose, or you are not. In an ideal world, there would be no ISIS to choose, but that is the reality we have engineered by doing business with them.

But at least his actions have opened up this debate, which is a good thing.

I think he is an absolute and utter moron. Even if he was 'joking' albeit bland, humorless and just wrong, if ISIS wanted something to fuck around with next, I think they might take a bite now that this moron presented it....

This is the funniest thing I've ever heard someone say in serious conversation, "We support free speech within the confines of the current laws." That's like saying, we support free speech just not really really free speech. 

Change tip kind of sucks huh, "The company's terms and conditions provide it the authority to block assets, deactivate or cancel offending user accounts or transfer bitcoin from a user's account should they be found in violation of this policy."

isn't this what all democratic governments claim?
but yes... its laughable...

IMHO i think self-censorship is worse than a government one (though it seems to me gov-censorship start and after a while people self-censor themselves).

Is he stupid? This is a bad advertising for bitcoin. I hope he will stop here and make the excuse to all the bitcoin community. Why does not he delete the tweet ?  *https://twitter.com/BryceWeiner/status/571815231598534656 and this is the copy of the page https://archive.today/raER2 .

While I personally hate ISIS and I think they are barbarians, savages and idiots. I think that if he Bryce Weiner of whoever in general wants to tip them he is free to do so. He will be labeled as supporter of terrorists of course but it is his free will. I am sure he did it only for the publicity tho. And he succeeded apparently.

Yes of course. Everyone is free to do whatever he wants, but tip terrorists is not a good choice. Now I think he is monitored by the Police or maybe also by the CIA. He has made this thing (maybe) only for advertise bitcoin, but this is not the good way for make these things.

Seems like a crazy thing to do, no doubt he'll be added on a few watchlists :)

Not really ideal associating bitcoin with ISIS either but hey ho, we'll always have bad apples.

It seems from responses here that there's mixed feelings regarding his actions.
Freedom of speech is one thing however, I believe that if people want to exercise their rights they have to abide to the laws of the country they're dwelling in.
People may not like the way that governments govern society but ultimately without a governing body they'd be total havoc. In the most part, rules and laws are made to be kept for our own benefit.
Yes freedom of speech is important, however, when it comes to something like this (funding terrorism) I think a boundary has been crossed.
It's kind of like someone complaining about the ethnicity and beliefs of a country he lives in. By no means does he have to have the same beliefs and he can voice his opinions freely. However, instead of acting out and seeking to destroy a working system he should just leave and find a place that suits him better.

There's a cultural issue at play here. It's common for people involved in cryptocurrency to disapprove of many of the responses to jihad. They often complain about the invasion of privacy and loss of liberty. I agree with all of this. However, many people seem to have a problem believing that it's possible to disapprove of these responses while at the same time believing jihad is a very real and very serious problem. People new to the community probably pick up on these cues and see it's popular to complain about the response to jihad and that it's unpopular to say jihad is real. This naturally leads some people to say jihad isn't real -- that "jihadi" violence is all just a response to how terrible "we" are. I've heard Bryce Weiner (and other people in crypto I could name) make excuses for jihadis along these lines. I don't remember exactly what he said, just that I stopped the video right after he said it and thought, "What a goddamn idiot." The only video I'll watch of him in the future is if he's being beheaded by jihadis.

So I'm not surprised at all that Weiner felt comfortable donating to ISIS. He probably considers them "freedom fighters" against the real bad guys in the world. I am pleasantly surprised there hasn't been more support for ISIS in this thread.

While I'm not a big fan of Christianity, the infamous Luke Jr. may have done Bitcoin a big favor by writing Catholic prayers into the Bitcoin blockchain. People should spread the word that it's in there. If Bitcoin were to be declared haram, jihadis could move on to a halal altcoin.


Option 2 is good for most people in the world (including Canadians like me), but from what I've read it doesn't apply to Americans. The U.S. government still demands taxes from its citizens if they move away. They also demand huge "exit taxes" to give up citizenship. (Read about Roger Ver's case.) Basically, if you're an American and you don't want to pay taxes to support lots of very bad things, the only realistic option is suicide.

Send him to GITMO or else execution for treason. His choice.

It's also a perspective thing.

Where do you stand on this guy? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abu_Sufian_bin_Qumu

If we had bitcoin back in 1980's, would you have supported this Jihadist against the russkies? Or would that have been bad, although the US government supported them ( and boycotted the olympic games to boot)

Or how about his 'rehabilitation' after guantanimo? Or when he took up the Jihadist cudgel again ( with US support) ? He more than likely blew up the embassy in Benghazi. Now, where do people stand viz. treason when the state is involved?

I'm speaking in generalities, btw, this applies to all nations that empower these animals in the interests of commerce.
 

So wait. You're suggesting he should be either tortured or murdered for sending $1 to someone?  That sounds like a completely rational and reasonable response. 

You know, ISIS would probably approve of your methods and disregard for free speech.  ::)



He talked about it on DogeCoinDark Radio on Friday.  The episode will presumably appear in the archives in a few days after post-production:

http://dogecoindark.net/radio/archives.html


One thing it did was get Twitter to notice and shut down an ISIS-related account that they'd missed...

I think he didnt attempt, he did sent them so btc.
http://bitforum.info/t/fbi-arrested-teenager-for-assisting-isis-recruitment/383/1

All that makes me think about is how much financial waste exists in the government. How many people are required to monitor, research and act on every little thing that happens on the Internet. It probably violates the privacy of fewer citizens and costs less to just let one of these groups blow up a building and pay every victim and survivor family $100 million each. Sometimes the decisions of the U.S. government seem almost sophomoric to me.

I think (hope) he was being sarcastic.

Surprized there hasn't been a Jihad coin made yet, good diversion to take some of the heat off bitcoin ;)

In todays news we had , FBI Arrest a Teenager For Assisting ISIS Recruitment, who was somewhat related to Crypto
http://bitforum.info/t/fbi-arrested-teenager-for-assisting-isis-recruitment/383

bryce weiner is certainly an interesting hillbilly.  ;D

The law is quite clear on this. He could face years in prison for providing material support to a terror group. Since we are currently fighting them he may also face treason charges. The amount is not the issue, giving even a penny to dasch COULD result in a death sentence.

I think he knew that. It was his choice and now he will pay a huge, life changing price. If he was making some kind of political statement then he should do his time. If he is going to whine about how unfair the government is for punishing him because he is aiding our enemy... well, That little boy has a lot to learn about running with the big boys. They will teach him in prison. Or he can always go to the glorious Islamic State. That would also be educational.

The G20 member nations should just nuke these damn heathen countries and turn all that sand into a giant glass parking lot for a mega Walmart. They could split the profit. LOL

Seriously though, doesn't it seem a little silly for a great and powerful nation to run in fear of a 17 year old child? Are we that fragile? Should I be packin heat every time I visit the grocery store? lol

I have worked training troops and a 17yo. is the scariest solider you will ever face on the battlefield. That is the prime age for a fighter to enter the fight. They are young enough to be excelent learners in good physical shape, and inexperienced enough to not recognize the danger of fighting. it's hard to know what a 17yo. is going to do next in a battle. They can't be counted on to play it safe. They might just foolishly attack and die, but kill you in the process.
There are thousands of kids like this currently fighting in Syria, Iraq, Mali, Nigeria, Sudan, etc...

I regard age as a minor factor. Yes you can't hold kids responsible for all their actions, however someone who has the capacity to know what they're doing and is in full control of their actions should be held responsible for whatever it is they have done.
This guy deserves whatever punishment he gets. He'll probably get off lightly but I believe he should be treated just like a 30 year old would be in the same situation.

There are too many innocent people in countries occupied by ISIS for this to make sense. The collateral damage would make up 99%+ of the dead.
The point is that we do not want terrorist orgs getting any financial support whatsoever. They are already targeting a lot of young people to fight for them

This guy is an idiot. You can't be ambiguous ironical or anything with this, you fuck up by trying to being a smartass by not directly condemning the ISIS rats.

Though tipping a small amount will not hurt significantly, the point is somewhere inside your brain, you're supporting terrorist. $1 costed him legal actions and disgust from the public. Not worth it.

Well, I guess I should be packin heat then. Come to think of it, some of those grocery bag boys are pretty creepy lookin. I can see this little bastard chopping someones head off and storing it in his grandmothers freezer.

http://old.seattletimes.com/ABPub/2008/11/27/2008444521.jpg

Um, yeah. I don't think there's anyone that doesn't know that was a pointed joke aimed at our militaristic country. But you're scary though.



I guess just stopping the aggression and constant manipulation of countries where we don't belong is a stupid idea. You know how I kept crazy bullies from beating me up when I was a child? I had no contact with them and avoided messing in their affairs.

How dangerous could she be? She's just a little girl?
http://blogs-images.forbes.com/realspin/files/2012/12/images-1.jpeg
SPOILER ALERT:
She is damn dangerous!

But what fuels her hate?

I doubt it costed him any legal actions. It only costed him public disgust. But yeah was definitely not worth it, even as a joke.

I fear that it is love that drives her. A love of killing.  :D

Yeah, ok. She popped out of her mothers womb with an assault rifle and fatigues. Governments fuel hate and no government is better at it than murrica. No country in the world has more armed citizens than the murrican crazy land.

Just in case anyone missed it, QuestionAuthority switched from arguing that 17-year olds aren't dangerous enough to worry about (they're just nice young buys working at the grocery store!) to arguing that child soldiers exist but are only dangerous because of 'murrica. Maybe a better handle for QuestionAuthority would be QuestionBasicLogic.

QuestionBasicLogic also switched from referring to the U.S. as a "great and powerful nation" to "murrican crazy land." Or maybe he's just misspelling "Moroccan."

You should re-read everything. I was referring to the supposedly "great and powerful" country that's afraid of children and constantly police their citizens. Maybe english isn't your first language. 

The 17 year old "child" was arrested in Virginia according the link supplied. Maybe you don't know Virginia is part of the U.S. Maybe in addition to studying some basic logic you should brush up on your basic geography.

Again probably a language barrier. I said when a girl wears fatigues and carries an assault rifle it's a government fueling the hate not specifically the murrican government but they are quite good at it.

http://images.politico.com/global/2013/04/19/130419_boston_police13_reu.jpg

Well children do copy cat what they see around them.

http://bioprepwatch.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/05/San-Mateo-Swat-Team.jpg

Yes, that's true. That's why I think it's highly likely that you've spent a lot of time growing up around dishonest people. The kind of people who would say "17 year olds aren't dangerous" and then contradict that in the same thread. I'm not saying this to argue with you. I'm saying it so there's clear evidence that you're not capable of having a rational conversation about a topic. It could be useful in later threads when people make the mistake of responding to you.

You've also given a good example of the phenomenon I mentioned earlier in the thread (when it was still about Bryce Weiner). A lot of people in the cryptocommunity (including me) are against the rising police/surveillance state. However, people who can't think very clearly can't see that both the police state and jihadists are real and dangerous. They aren't mutually exclusive. However, certain people give cues that indicate "We will think you are one of us if you believe jihad isn't really a problem." To be accepted as part of the group people parrot ridiculous and ahistorical nonsense. And make very dumb decisions like donating to ISIS.

Maybe you simply misunderstand me because I like to be humorous. I would no more agree with donating to a terrorist group like ISIS than I would agree with donating to the CIA. I'm an isolationist. I believe if we weren't running around the world pissing people off they wouldn't bother trying to blow us up. Stripping away your freedoms with legal loopholes like the Patriot Act would be unnecessary. Americans will eventually lose their right to bear arms, freedom of assembly, freedom of speech and a host of others if people don't stop it now. The problem is there seems to be too much blind patriotism without much thought about the process. WWII forced us into this role of world police force and we just can't seem to shake it. It's costing us a fortune abroad and destroying our freedoms at home. ttyl

True enough if something is really broken it needs to be tested first
Otherwise we might have seen more large amounts going to fund them instead

Should have tipped @criminalsunion "to help... repeat the history of gun control" LOL

Someone gave her a gun, that's sad. But she looks to me like someone fighting the Americans. I know a lot of people think America is behind everything, I wish that were true. In reality we have little power to do anything around the world. And we do not pay for child soldiers when we do.

Except for the well-documented military interventions, government destabilizations, coup attempts, assassinations, bribes, blackmail, interference with foreign elections at the behest of corporate interests going back at least 5 decades, leading to the plundering of resources and the resultant mass poverty, starvation and genocide, no, the U.S., the wealthiest nation on the planet, has very little power. (im being sarcastic here)

At an individual level its true we are powerless, most of us are bitches to our corporate/government masters. As a collective nation we screw with the world in a royal sort of way.

We may not pay for child soldiers but we often build their guns.

^This.

We may not be directly paying them to work for us, indirectly we still help them by making such guns. We, as a group of individuals, help the government to screw the world in some ways we knew but we cannot avoid, like paying taxes etc.

As interesting as this argument is and what your opinions are on policy can we please try and keep this on topic and not go on too much of a tangent?  ;)

I think it was not attempted, Bryce did gave something for that ISIS man.

Isnt the tl;dr of this topic "Its bad to give money to terrorists"?
And its been pointed out that the US government has given significantly more (Enough to give every US citizen a decent standard of healthcare) to terrorists than this guy did, but many people dont seem to have a problem with that. Surely that makes policy a real important issue...

That may be true yet it is disputed. Regardless of that, it has also been noted that some rule or policy is needed. I think it's better to have one governing organisation (who may or may not have directly or indirectly contributed to terrorism) then having a free for all riot where people self-govern over society. In the latter scenario I'm fairly confident in saying both terrorism and crime will be much more prominent and more of an issue.

You are absolutely right. It's laughable that the U.S. government can call any group a terrorist considering the information that is available about the horrible things they have been doing since WWII. The CIA has been committing terrorist crimes globally since before most other terrorist groups were in diapers.

Read to learn more: http://www.globalresearch.ca/a-timeline-of-cia-atrocities/5348804

Here's a link to the audio interview with Bryce I mentioned where he discusses the tipping incident:

https://www.mixcloud.com/dogedradio/bryce-weiner-guest-host-commenting-on-tipping-mechanisms-in-crypto-currencies/

So basically he's trying to shift the blame from himself to Twitter.
He should just man up, admit he was wrong and stop acting like a child in my opinion.

that's like blaming the gun for killing someone. When you pulled the trigger.

Good analogy :) - I like it.
Anyway let's see what the pro-Weiner guys have to say about it.

Agreed, I don't understand why someone would try to do this and expect zero repercussions or whiplash.

As an acquaintance of Bryce, I felt very uneasy about this. I haven't spoken to him since the incident. Attempting to fund terrorism to prove a point is pretty ignorant in my opinion. It just seems like blatant attention whoring to me

Things would be nice and neat if we could just boil this down to football game, eh? 2 sides. Go Blues!  Go Reds!!   ;D

Alas, its rarely that simple. I dont think anyone is contesting that what this guy did was stupid. But should he be vilified to the degree that is being advocated in this thread? Of course not. If you want to be angry with something, then get angry at real issues. Guy did something stupid. It has zero impact on global terrorism. At least anyone else trying to setup ISIL/ISIS faucets will find it more difficult now. Lets be thankful for that.

Also, I hear what you say about rules and stuff - nobody wants complete anarchy. But by the same token, we expect those charged with enforcing those rules on us to abide by them with equal vigour.

Well based on your initial comment, we're entitled to. We are entitled to our views as much as anyone in this thread.
Yes there are plenty of issues to get angry at including ISIS. I actually think that they're a real threat and I think the world aren't doing enough to stop them.
We can't have members of the public supporting terror in any shape or form.

Also, I hear what you say about rules and stuff - nobody wants complete anarchy. But by the same token, we expect those charged with enforcing those rules on us to abide by them with equal vigour. - I've re-posted this because I think its completely true. I believe in some government. That doesn't mean I believe and agree with everything they do. In fact, I actually believe that they get lots of things wrong an can deal with many issues in other ways, however, without them or some form of power, all will be lost. 

It is not a question of politically not correct , it is a question of "ethic". Will you give or donate 1 cent to a terrorist/killer? I hope you will reply : No, I will not donate 1 cent do any killer. The future is not the democracy, also it has failed and we are moving to another form of government.

Can you make a bomb from 1$?
Terror institutions are best way for marketing.

Ironically the biggest funder of terrorism on the planet is the US government.



So then you don't pay taxes to fund the military?

I never said you arent entitled to your views. Hence we are having a discussion.

What I find funny is the way some poeple will get their knickers in a bunch over this guy, yet will not for one minute discuss the REAL issue.

Who are ISIS? Where did they come from? Who backed them?

If you look into this, I guarantee you wont be so angry at this Bryce guy ( and, YES, I agree, what he did was wrong)

ISIS is essentially Al-Qaeda Iraq. They are fighting a sectarian war against the US approved, but Shia majority government in Iraq. They are Sunni extremists, in the Wahhabist tradition of Saudi Arabia, and since the Syrian Civil War, have been openly backed by Saudi Arabia. The US are also keen to overthrow Assad, so US money has gone to the "rebels". However the rebels have largely been taken over by ISIS in the last 2 years, so all US and Saudi "aid" has been gracefully accepted by ISIS!

In essense, the US is supporting a terror organisation who are fighting against them in Iraq. Go Figure.  Remember the joy when the Marines took Fallujah in 2004?  Bet you didnt see as much fanfare when those bastard ISIS thugs took it back, using US supplied weapons and Hummers?

So you still pissed at this guy and his buck? You should get down to the Saudi Embassy and ask why do they support sectarian extremists in Syria and Iraq. And then ask your congressman why the US is still alligning itself with Saudi's who are openly hostile to anyone who is not a strict fundamentalist Sunni. ( that includes Shia, Alawites, Christians, Jews, etc.

Awesome Post!

Cue crickets!!

Yeah, this is a very informative post. I don't know that much about the whole Iraq / Iran / U.S. manipulation thing. I probably should read up on it more to be a good world citizen (bla bla) but, like most Americans, I really don't care that much about their struggles beyond the belief that we shouldn't be messing in their internal affairs. If they nuclear carpet bombed each other in a triangle from Yemen to Pakistan to Turkey I doubt most Americans that didn't emigrate from that region would lose any sleep.

Well, he could have sent the bitcoins directly, if he absolutely wanted to. The great thing about bitcoin is there is no gate/wall to access, so you don't need to make use of services to transfer funds.