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Title: Top Cloud Miners Compared by Profitability Post by: kaprosuchus on April 01, 2015, 08:00:47 PM Cloud Mining Risk Assessment: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=878387.0 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=878387.0) https://forum.gethashing.com/uploads/default/original/2X/0/035614646df4ccb9c9e2199a1fd4b732530206c1.jpg (https://sites.google.com/site/freebitcoinsforall/?ref=bct2015_07_16) I've done my best to show the most current profitability comparison of Cloud Mining companies on my website. I added a difficulty increase of 0.201%/day (based on the 100 day average) to my "days-to-break-even" calculation. To see a LIVE version of the graphic above, check out this link: https://sites.google.com/site/freebitcoinsforall/ (https://sites.google.com/site/freebitcoinsforall/) Note: I just added a "bitcoin price target for minimum profitability" to my table so you can see what price bitcoin needs to be for your favorite cloud miner to keep from going underwater. Note: The "days-to-break-even" is based on the current bitcoin price and the average difficulty increase over the past 100 days. If the bitcoin price, the price per GH/s and average difficulty all stay exactly the same as they are today, you will hit your break-even point in the number of days specified. If everything else stays the same and bitcoin jumps to $280 - you will make your break-even significantly faster. ;) If you know any tricks (php/api) you'd like to share that might let me automatically retrieve real-time HashNest market data, I'd love to hear them. Please post comments, questions and suggestions. And of-course - "caveat emptor" Cloud Mining Risk Assessment: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=878387.0 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=878387.0) Title: Re: Top Cloud Miners Compared by Profitability Post by: jonnybravo0311 on April 01, 2015, 08:55:11 PM Nicely done. Are those results based on purchasing BTC mining contracts, or other options and converting the payouts into BTC?
Title: Re: Top Cloud Miners Compared by Profitability Post by: kaprosuchus on April 01, 2015, 09:27:35 PM Nicely done. Are those results based on purchasing BTC mining contracts, or other options and converting the payouts into BTC? Thanks!! ;D All of the current contract listings payout in bitcoin. The profitability (of the contracts with a high fee percentage) changes wildly with the value of bitcoin and I'm able to capture the results almost in real-time. ;) Title: Re: Top Cloud Miners Compared by Profitability Post by: Amph on April 02, 2015, 02:24:10 PM i was searching for something like this, is "bit srv" bit-x?
also hashnest is missed Title: Re: Top Cloud Miners Compared by Profitability Post by: Josef27 on April 02, 2015, 02:30:36 PM Nicely done! Now do "Top Cloud Miners Compared by Reality"!
Title: Re: Top Cloud Miners Compared by Profitability Post by: kaprosuchus on April 02, 2015, 02:47:20 PM i was searching for something like this, is "bit srv" bit-x? also hashnest is missed BIT.CLO.SRV is BitcoinCloudServices. HashNest/BITMAIN and POW88 offerings are listed individually. HashNest/BITMAIN includes: PACMiC UMISOO Ant S2 Ant S3 Ant S4 Ant S5 POW88 includes: PH1609 PAHASH1 G700 Title: Re: Top Cloud Miners Compared by Profitability Post by: kaprosuchus on April 14, 2015, 04:48:40 PM Updated today. Ant S2 and UMISOO underwater due to bitcoin price drop...
Title: Re: Top Cloud Miners Compared by Profitability Post by: jdebunt on April 14, 2015, 05:19:35 PM very nice list indeed. thank you for putting this together.
Will you keep this updated further as time progresses? Title: Re: Top Cloud Miners Compared by Profitability Post by: RussianRaibow on April 14, 2015, 05:50:00 PM @OP Nice list. But it misses one of the cheapest and long standing Cloud Mining Service. It is www.CloudMining.website. This is verified by third party to deliver ROI within 114 days...
http://www.anony.ws/i/2015/03/02/cmmonitor1.png Source: http://www.cmmonitor.com/24-cloudmining-website.html They provide payment proof of last five month as well: www.cloudmining.website/payments.php Without CMW, the list of most profitable cloud miners is incomplete. Title: Re: Top Cloud Miners Compared by Profitability Post by: marcotheminer on April 14, 2015, 05:54:57 PM How about excluding likely scams/ponzis?
In other words don't include cloudmining.website and some that you've included. Title: Re: Top Cloud Miners Compared by Profitability Post by: RussianRaibow on April 14, 2015, 06:28:04 PM Wow, someone is getting butthurt here...
People invest for ROI. Not for company's background check. If they did, it would have been long caught that Bit-X has bribed BitFury to vouch for them. Better ask your boss to do some real mining and provide some real return to the customers rather than spending all the money to win BitFury vouch and to hire U !!! :D The companies that actually give ROI are listed below... i. BitcoinCloudServices.com ii. CloudMinining.website iii. CloudMinr.IO I think, all the above are scam in your eye :P Title: Re: Top Cloud Miners Compared by Profitability Post by: marcotheminer on April 14, 2015, 06:59:56 PM Wow, someone is getting butthurt here... People invest for ROI. Not for company's background check. If they did, it would have been long caught that Bit-X has bribed BitFury to vouch for them. Better ask your boss to do some real mining and provide some real return to the customers rather than spending all the money to win BitFury vouch and to hire U !!! :D The companies that actually give ROI are listed below... i. BitcoinCloudServices.com ii. CloudMinining.website iii. CloudMinr.IO I think, all the above are scam in your eye :P Sure, believe what you want :). ROI doesn't mean anything. You can get ROI from other investors' deposits you know? Just so you know: ROI (for a few users) doesn't mean legitimacy. Title: Re: Top Cloud Miners Compared by Profitability Post by: kaprosuchus on April 14, 2015, 07:24:33 PM very nice list indeed. thank you for putting this together. Will you keep this updated further as time progresses? Thanks!! ;D I will try to keep this updated from time to time but for up-to-the-minute results just check my site: https://sites.google.com/site/freebitcoinsforall/ (https://sites.google.com/site/freebitcoinsforall/) Title: Re: Top Cloud Miners Compared by Profitability Post by: tmfp on April 14, 2015, 07:35:23 PM very nice list indeed. thank you for putting this together. Will you keep this updated further as time progresses? Thanks!! ;D I will try to keep this updated from time to time but for up-to-the-minute results just check my site: https://sites.google.com/site/freebitcoinsforall/ (https://sites.google.com/site/freebitcoinsforall/) From your entry for the BCS ponzi 'Note: This is the only company on the list that is a member of the BitcoinFoundation - a major boost to credibility.' Precious little credibility of any sort. Title: Re: Top Cloud Miners Compared by Profitability Post by: marcotheminer on April 14, 2015, 07:37:06 PM very nice list indeed. thank you for putting this together. Will you keep this updated further as time progresses? Thanks!! ;D I will try to keep this updated from time to time but for up-to-the-minute results just check my site: https://sites.google.com/site/freebitcoinsforall/ (https://sites.google.com/site/freebitcoinsforall/) From your entry for the BCS ponzi 'Note: This is the only company on the list that is a member of the BitcoinFoundation - a major boost to credibility.' Between the three of you, precious little credibility of any sort. No credibility added at all, just shows that the site has money to spend to buy a membership to a site. Anyone can buy a membership with a little money. Title: Re: Top Cloud Miners Compared by Profitability Post by: kaprosuchus on April 14, 2015, 09:28:01 PM very nice list indeed. thank you for putting this together. Will you keep this updated further as time progresses? Thanks!! ;D I will try to keep this updated from time to time but for up-to-the-minute results just check my site: https://sites.google.com/site/freebitcoinsforall/ (https://sites.google.com/site/freebitcoinsforall/) From your entry for the BCS ponzi 'Note: This is the only company on the list that is a member of the BitcoinFoundation - a major boost to credibility.' Between the three of you, precious little credibility of any sort. No credibility added at all, just shows that the site has money to spend to buy a membership to a site. Anyone can buy a membership with a little money. And of-course - "caveat emptor" Cloud Mining Risk Assessment: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=878387.0 Title: Re: Top Cloud Miners Compared by Profitability Post by: RussianRaibow on April 14, 2015, 10:20:17 PM very nice list indeed. thank you for putting this together. Will you keep this updated further as time progresses? Thanks!! ;D I will try to keep this updated from time to time but for up-to-the-minute results just check my site: https://sites.google.com/site/freebitcoinsforall/ (https://sites.google.com/site/freebitcoinsforall/) From your entry for the BCS ponzi 'Note: This is the only company on the list that is a member of the BitcoinFoundation - a major boost to credibility.' Between the three of you, precious little credibility of any sort. No credibility added at all, just shows that the site has money to spend to buy a membership to a site. Anyone can buy a membership with a little money. Same logic applies to Bit-X as well. They bribed BitFury to vouch for them. Anyone can do that and it does not prove any legitimacy at all. Moreover, every Cloud Mining scam said they will publish their mining address at some future date. Bit-X is doing the same. Title: Re: Top Cloud Miners Compared by Profitability Post by: marcotheminer on April 15, 2015, 05:36:52 AM very nice list indeed. thank you for putting this together. Will you keep this updated further as time progresses? Thanks!! ;D I will try to keep this updated from time to time but for up-to-the-minute results just check my site: https://sites.google.com/site/freebitcoinsforall/ (https://sites.google.com/site/freebitcoinsforall/) From your entry for the BCS ponzi 'Note: This is the only company on the list that is a member of the BitcoinFoundation - a major boost to credibility.' Between the three of you, precious little credibility of any sort. No credibility added at all, just shows that the site has money to spend to buy a membership to a site. Anyone can buy a membership with a little money. Same logic applies to Bit-X as well. They bribed BitFury to vouch for them. Anyone can do that and it does not prove any legitimacy at all. Moreover, every Cloud Mining scam said they will publish their mining address at some future date. Bit-X is doing the same. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=878387.0 Title: Re: Top Cloud Miners Compared by Profitability Post by: RussianRaibow on April 15, 2015, 09:27:45 AM very nice list indeed. thank you for putting this together. Will you keep this updated further as time progresses? Thanks!! ;D I will try to keep this updated from time to time but for up-to-the-minute results just check my site: https://sites.google.com/site/freebitcoinsforall/ (https://sites.google.com/site/freebitcoinsforall/) From your entry for the BCS ponzi 'Note: This is the only company on the list that is a member of the BitcoinFoundation - a major boost to credibility.' Between the three of you, precious little credibility of any sort. No credibility added at all, just shows that the site has money to spend to buy a membership to a site. Anyone can buy a membership with a little money. Same logic applies to Bit-X as well. They bribed BitFury to vouch for them. Anyone can do that and it does not prove any legitimacy at all. Moreover, every Cloud Mining scam said they will publish their mining address at some future date. Bit-X is doing the same. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=878387.0 Ya... this thread said GAW is Probably Legit and AM Hash is super legit. No wonder, it says Bit-X is probably legit as well :D Title: Re: Top Cloud Miners Compared by Profitability Post by: crazyivan on April 15, 2015, 09:53:08 AM Profitability means nothing if you invest in ponzi and lose all of your money.
Only 2 companies currently pass my non-ponzi test, Hashnest and Bit-x. If anyone else would like me to test them or even write a review about them, just let me know. Title: Re: Top Cloud Miners Compared by Profitability Post by: cryptojumper on April 15, 2015, 10:02:44 AM If this is not an April Fools' joke, it would be interesting to know what miners are they using to achieve such incredible roi. Well, scrypt.cc would defend that they are trading altcoins, but what about the others ???
I think they are ponzi. Title: Re: Top Cloud Miners Compared by Profitability Post by: kaprosuchus on April 15, 2015, 01:19:02 PM If this is not an April Fools' joke, it would be interesting to know what miners are they using to achieve such incredible roi. Well, scrypt.cc would defend that they are trading altcoins, but what about the others ??? I think they are ponzi. Not a joke, some of these might not actually be mining bitcoin, I'll leave the speculation to the viewers, but if you want to compare current daily payouts - this list might come in handy... ;) And of-course - "caveat emptor" Cloud Mining Risk Assessment: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=878387.0 Title: Re: Top Cloud Miners Compared by Profitability Post by: RussianRaibow on April 15, 2015, 01:43:41 PM Profitability means nothing if you invest in ponzi and lose all of your money. Only 2 companies currently pass my non-ponzi test, Hashnest and Bit-x. If anyone else would like me to test them or even write a review about them, just let me know. Currently no one passes my legitimacy test. Hence I go for the most profitable ones, i.e. CloudMining.website & CloudMinr.IO :) Title: Re: Top Cloud Miners Compared by Profitability Post by: crazyivan on April 15, 2015, 01:43:47 PM If this is not an April Fools' joke, it would be interesting to know what miners are they using to achieve such incredible roi. Well, scrypt.cc would defend that they are trading altcoins, but what about the others ??? I think they are ponzi. Scrypt.cc is more ponzi then all of them together. 60 days ROI and you sell this to outsiders, yeah right. Title: Re: Top Cloud Miners Compared by Profitability Post by: RussianRaibow on April 15, 2015, 01:47:52 PM If this is not an April Fools' joke, it would be interesting to know what miners are they using to achieve such incredible roi. Well, scrypt.cc would defend that they are trading altcoins, but what about the others ??? I think they are ponzi. Scrypt.cc is more ponzi then all of them together. 60 days ROI and you sell this to outsiders, yeah right. Do you have any proof that Scrypt.cc is giving ROI in 60 days ? Then I must try them... Title: Re: Top Cloud Miners Compared by Profitability Post by: crazyivan on April 15, 2015, 04:01:40 PM If this is not an April Fools' joke, it would be interesting to know what miners are they using to achieve such incredible roi. Well, scrypt.cc would defend that they are trading altcoins, but what about the others ??? I think they are ponzi. Scrypt.cc is more ponzi then all of them together. 60 days ROI and you sell this to outsiders, yeah right. Do you have any proof that Scrypt.cc is giving ROI in 60 days ? Then I must try them... There is a calculator on their home page which gives you 60+ days result. Recently they had some drop in payouts but ROI s still unbelievable. No proof they mine at all though. Title: Re: Top Cloud Miners Compared by Profitability Post by: kaprosuchus on April 15, 2015, 04:36:23 PM I added a difficulty increase of 0.201%/day (based on the 100 day average) to my "days-to-break-even" calculation. [/url]It looks like most of the GH/s is overpriced by quite a bit... ;) https://i.imgur.com/cbgRKqC.png (https://sites.google.com/site/freebitcoinsforall/) Title: Re: Top Cloud Miners Compared by Profitability Post by: RussianRaibow on April 15, 2015, 06:41:58 PM If this is not an April Fools' joke, it would be interesting to know what miners are they using to achieve such incredible roi. Well, scrypt.cc would defend that they are trading altcoins, but what about the others ??? I think they are ponzi. Scrypt.cc is more ponzi then all of them together. 60 days ROI and you sell this to outsiders, yeah right. Do you have any proof that Scrypt.cc is giving ROI in 60 days ? Then I must try them... There is a calculator on their home page which gives you 60+ days result. Recently they had some drop in payouts but ROI s still unbelievable. No proof they mine at all though. I am looking for ROI proof, NOT mining proof. Bit-X does not provide any mining proof either except for some vouch they got from BitFury by bribing them. Title: Re: Top Cloud Miners Compared by Profitability Post by: marcotheminer on April 15, 2015, 07:36:51 PM If this is not an April Fools' joke, it would be interesting to know what miners are they using to achieve such incredible roi. Well, scrypt.cc would defend that they are trading altcoins, but what about the others ??? I think they are ponzi. Scrypt.cc is more ponzi then all of them together. 60 days ROI and you sell this to outsiders, yeah right. Do you have any proof that Scrypt.cc is giving ROI in 60 days ? Then I must try them... There is a calculator on their home page which gives you 60+ days result. Recently they had some drop in payouts but ROI s still unbelievable. No proof they mine at all though. I am looking for ROI proof, NOT mining proof. Bit-X does not provide any mining proof either except for some vouch they got from BitFury by bribing them. Do you have an evidence backing your ridiculous claim? Title: Re: Top Cloud Miners Compared by Profitability Post by: RussianRaibow on April 15, 2015, 08:03:02 PM If this is not an April Fools' joke, it would be interesting to know what miners are they using to achieve such incredible roi. Well, scrypt.cc would defend that they are trading altcoins, but what about the others ??? I think they are ponzi. Scrypt.cc is more ponzi then all of them together. 60 days ROI and you sell this to outsiders, yeah right. Do you have any proof that Scrypt.cc is giving ROI in 60 days ? Then I must try them... There is a calculator on their home page which gives you 60+ days result. Recently they had some drop in payouts but ROI s still unbelievable. No proof they mine at all though. I am looking for ROI proof, NOT mining proof. Bit-X does not provide any mining proof either except for some vouch they got from BitFury by bribing them. Do you have an evidence backing your ridiculous claim? Do you have any evidence that bitcoincloudservices.com, cloudmining.website or cloudminr.io do not have their own miner ? Title: Re: Top Cloud Miners Compared by Profitability Post by: crazyivan on April 15, 2015, 08:24:10 PM If this is not an April Fools' joke, it would be interesting to know what miners are they using to achieve such incredible roi. Well, scrypt.cc would defend that they are trading altcoins, but what about the others ??? I think they are ponzi. Scrypt.cc is more ponzi then all of them together. 60 days ROI and you sell this to outsiders, yeah right. Do you have any proof that Scrypt.cc is giving ROI in 60 days ? Then I must try them... There is a calculator on their home page which gives you 60+ days result. Recently they had some drop in payouts but ROI s still unbelievable. No proof they mine at all though. I am looking for ROI proof, NOT mining proof. Bit-X does not provide any mining proof either except for some vouch they got from BitFury by bribing them. Do you have an evidence backing your ridiculous claim? Do you have any evidence that bitcoincloudservices.com, cloudmining.website or cloudminr.io do not have their own miner ? I would gladly accept any ASIC producer vouching for any of these companies you have mentioned as a proof they actually mine. I would also gladly accept any other proof known to man. No? Why not? Title: Re: Top Cloud Miners Compared by Profitability Post by: tmfp on April 15, 2015, 08:44:27 PM Do you have any evidence that bitcoincloudservices.com, cloudmining.website or cloudminr.io do not have their own miner ? Don't be ridiculous, how can anyone have evidence that someone doesn't have something? That doesn't mean you have to believe that they do, just because they say so. These ponzi 'cloud miners' don't even attempt to prove they do actually mine. Why should they? There seem to be enough people willing to give them money anyway, who seem to fall into one of two categories: 1) Naive 'investors' who want to believe that they are really mining, despite total lack of evidence and ROI's which defy logic. 2) People who don't care whether they mine or not, just as long as the payments keep coming. (Like your good self). 'Cloud mining' is the perfect Ponzi environment, just make up some numbers and a website, there's no oversight, no proof needed of any legit activity, shrinking payouts are used as reasons to buy more and, of course, no comeback. Real mining is subject to real costs and of course can't compete with the fairytale stuff on GH/s price. That's why this "guide" is of no value, it compares apples to oranges. Title: Re: Top Cloud Miners Compared by Profitability Post by: kaprosuchus on April 15, 2015, 09:02:55 PM Do you have any evidence that bitcoincloudservices.com, cloudmining.website or cloudminr.io do not have their own miner ? Don't be ridiculous, how can anyone have evidence that someone doesn't have something? That doesn't mean you have to believe that they do, just because they say so. These ponzi 'cloud miners' don't even attempt to prove they do actually mine. Why should they? There seem to be enough people willing to give them money anyway, who seem to fall into one of two categories: 1) Naive 'investors' who want to believe that they are really mining, despite total lack of evidence and ROI's which defy logic. 2) People who don't care whether they mine or not, just as long as the payments keep coming. (Like your good self). 'Cloud mining' is the perfect Ponzi environment, just make up some numbers and a website, there's no oversight, no proof needed of any legit activity, shrinking payouts are used as reasons to buy more and, of course, no comeback. Real mining is subject to real costs and of course can't compete with the fairytale stuff on GH/s price. That's why this "guide" is of no value, it compares apples to oranges. It's still handy even if you only use it to compare the different HashNest offerings (which are 100% verified). Title: Re: Top Cloud Miners Compared by Profitability Post by: RussianRaibow on April 15, 2015, 09:28:33 PM If this is not an April Fools' joke, it would be interesting to know what miners are they using to achieve such incredible roi. Well, scrypt.cc would defend that they are trading altcoins, but what about the others ??? I think they are ponzi. Scrypt.cc is more ponzi then all of them together. 60 days ROI and you sell this to outsiders, yeah right. Do you have any proof that Scrypt.cc is giving ROI in 60 days ? Then I must try them... There is a calculator on their home page which gives you 60+ days result. Recently they had some drop in payouts but ROI s still unbelievable. No proof they mine at all though. I am looking for ROI proof, NOT mining proof. Bit-X does not provide any mining proof either except for some vouch they got from BitFury by bribing them. Do you have an evidence backing your ridiculous claim? Do you have any evidence that bitcoincloudservices.com, cloudmining.website or cloudminr.io do not have their own miner ? I would gladly accept any ASIC producer vouching for any of these companies you have mentioned as a proof they actually mine. I would also gladly accept any other proof known to man. No? Why not? First of all, this account switching is very disturbing Marco. If you want to honestly argue, use at least one account per thread. Now, coming to your point. What you gladly accept is immaterial. What our previous experience and logic says is important here. Our previous experience says that Asic Miner vouched for Hashie and then both vanished in the thin air one by one. It has been stated several times on various threads that what proof a cloud miner can provide to prove legitimacy beyond doubt. It is publishing their mining address & sold hash power which updates in real time. Unfortunately, not a single cloud miner that exists today does this. ASIC producer vouching is simply eye wash as it easily be gained by bribing them. Like someone said before that BitcoinCloudServices 'bought' their space in Bitcoin Foundation to show legitimacy. It does not prove anything. What is left is ROI. How can we beat the declining price of Bitcoin. That is why the list maintained by OP is important. Where you can see the real profit chart beyond this legitimacy game. Title: Re: Top Cloud Miners Compared by Profitability Post by: RussianRaibow on April 15, 2015, 09:30:16 PM I added a difficulty increase of 0.201%/day (based on the 100 day average) to my "days-to-break-even" calculation. It looks like most of the GH/s is overpriced by quite a bit... ;) https://i.imgur.com/cbgRKqC.png Nice updated list. Please update it in the OP. Title: Re: Top Cloud Miners Compared by Profitability Post by: RussianRaibow on April 15, 2015, 09:40:16 PM Do you have any evidence that bitcoincloudservices.com, cloudmining.website or cloudminr.io do not have their own miner ? Don't be ridiculous, how can anyone have evidence that someone doesn't have something? That doesn't mean you have to believe that they do, just because they say so. These ponzi 'cloud miners' don't even attempt to prove they do actually mine. Why should they? There seem to be enough people willing to give them money anyway, who seem to fall into one of two categories: 1) Naive 'investors' who want to believe that they are really mining, despite total lack of evidence and ROI's which defy logic. 2) People who don't care whether they mine or not, just as long as the payments keep coming. (Like your good self). 'Cloud mining' is the perfect Ponzi environment, just make up some numbers and a website, there's no oversight, no proof needed of any legit activity, shrinking payouts are used as reasons to buy more and, of course, no comeback. Real mining is subject to real costs and of course can't compete with the fairytale stuff on GH/s price. That's why this "guide" is of no value, it compares apples to oranges. You have a typical nature you know. You go to every thread and say everything is bad. I never found you praising anything. First let me know which cloud minings are pure & legit according to you and then I'll reply to your BS. Dont try to make your statement politically correct by saying 'Still it is not recommended'. Title: Re: Top Cloud Miners Compared by Profitability Post by: marcotheminer on April 15, 2015, 09:45:02 PM If this is not an April Fools' joke, it would be interesting to know what miners are they using to achieve such incredible roi. Well, scrypt.cc would defend that they are trading altcoins, but what about the others ??? I think they are ponzi. Scrypt.cc is more ponzi then all of them together. 60 days ROI and you sell this to outsiders, yeah right. Do you have any proof that Scrypt.cc is giving ROI in 60 days ? Then I must try them... There is a calculator on their home page which gives you 60+ days result. Recently they had some drop in payouts but ROI s still unbelievable. No proof they mine at all though. I am looking for ROI proof, NOT mining proof. Bit-X does not provide any mining proof either except for some vouch they got from BitFury by bribing them. Do you have an evidence backing your ridiculous claim? Do you have any evidence that bitcoincloudservices.com, cloudmining.website or cloudminr.io do not have their own miner ? I would gladly accept any ASIC producer vouching for any of these companies you have mentioned as a proof they actually mine. I would also gladly accept any other proof known to man. No? Why not? First of all, this account switching is very disturbing Marco. If you want to honestly argue, use at least one account per thread. I don't own 50 million accounts you know, once again this is not me. And you kind of contradicted yourself here: Quote If you want to honestly argue, use at least one account per thread. So basically you're telling me to use more than one account? I think what you meant to say was: please only use one account per thread.Pro tip: everyone who doesn't share your opinion isn't just another alt account; people do agree on the same things sometimes you know? Title: Re: Top Cloud Miners Compared by Profitability Post by: RussianRaibow on April 15, 2015, 10:17:52 PM If this is not an April Fools' joke, it would be interesting to know what miners are they using to achieve such incredible roi. Well, scrypt.cc would defend that they are trading altcoins, but what about the others ??? I think they are ponzi. Scrypt.cc is more ponzi then all of them together. 60 days ROI and you sell this to outsiders, yeah right. Do you have any proof that Scrypt.cc is giving ROI in 60 days ? Then I must try them... There is a calculator on their home page which gives you 60+ days result. Recently they had some drop in payouts but ROI s still unbelievable. No proof they mine at all though. I am looking for ROI proof, NOT mining proof. Bit-X does not provide any mining proof either except for some vouch they got from BitFury by bribing them. Do you have an evidence backing your ridiculous claim? Do you have any evidence that bitcoincloudservices.com, cloudmining.website or cloudminr.io do not have their own miner ? I would gladly accept any ASIC producer vouching for any of these companies you have mentioned as a proof they actually mine. I would also gladly accept any other proof known to man. No? Why not? First of all, this account switching is very disturbing Marco. If you want to honestly argue, use at least one account per thread. Now, coming to your point. What you gladly accept is immaterial. What our previous experience and logic says is important here. Our previous experience says that Asic Miner vouched for Hashie and then both vanished in the thin air one by one. It has been stated several times on various threads that what proof a cloud miner can provide to prove legitimacy beyond doubt. It is publishing their mining address & sold hash power which updates in real time. Unfortunately, not a single cloud miner that exists today does this. ASIC producer vouching is simply eye wash as it easily be gained by bribing them. Like someone said before that BitcoinCloudServices 'bought' their space in Bitcoin Foundation to show legitimacy. It does not prove anything. What is left is ROI. How can we beat the declining price of Bitcoin. That is why the list maintained by OP is important. Where you can see the real profit chart beyond this legitimacy game. I don't own 50 million accounts you know, once again this is not me. And you kind of contradicted yourself here: Quote If you want to honestly argue, use at least one account per thread. So basically you're telling me to use more than one account? I think what you meant to say was: please only use one account per thread.Pro tip: everyone who doesn't share your opinion isn't just another alt account; people do agree on the same things sometimes you know? As expected you bypassed the real topic of discussion and omitted my actual explanation which did not go well with you. I have included that back again within my original quote with bold ;D Definitely you do not have 50 million accounts on BitcoinTalk. Otherwise you would not have to work for Bit-X. But, you definitely have more than one Hero Member account as evident from this quote... Hero Member Bitcointalk Account | 546+ Activity | 0.7 BTC 0.7BTC Signed message from original owner available, no active loans out. Can go to 574 activity on Tuesday (1 post now will add 14, 1 on Tuesday will add 14) With your Pro Tip, you are trying to prove that I am wrong. :D Look, I did not confuse you with tmfp, though he contradicted me. I doubted CrazyIvan, who is most likely your Alt. At least you should know I have some deeper knowledge about people in BitcoinTalk than an average person. If you have your old PM in sent item, check the PM you sent me on August 20, 2014. ;) Title: Re: Top Cloud Miners Compared by Profitability Post by: marcotheminer on April 15, 2015, 10:45:38 PM I didn't even bother reading it. I will now.
Title: Re: Top Cloud Miners Compared by Profitability Post by: crazyivan on April 16, 2015, 05:37:35 AM If this is not an April Fools' joke, it would be interesting to know what miners are they using to achieve such incredible roi. Well, scrypt.cc would defend that they are trading altcoins, but what about the others ??? I think they are ponzi. Scrypt.cc is more ponzi then all of them together. 60 days ROI and you sell this to outsiders, yeah right. Do you have any proof that Scrypt.cc is giving ROI in 60 days ? Then I must try them... There is a calculator on their home page which gives you 60+ days result. Recently they had some drop in payouts but ROI s still unbelievable. No proof they mine at all though. I am looking for ROI proof, NOT mining proof. Bit-X does not provide any mining proof either except for some vouch they got from BitFury by bribing them. Do you have an evidence backing your ridiculous claim? Do you have any evidence that bitcoincloudservices.com, cloudmining.website or cloudminr.io do not have their own miner ? I would gladly accept any ASIC producer vouching for any of these companies you have mentioned as a proof they actually mine. I would also gladly accept any other proof known to man. No? Why not? First of all, this account switching is very disturbing Marco. If you want to honestly argue, use at least one account per thread. Now, coming to your point. What you gladly accept is immaterial. What our previous experience and logic says is important here. Our previous experience says that Asic Miner vouched for Hashie and then both vanished in the thin air one by one. It has been stated several times on various threads that what proof a cloud miner can provide to prove legitimacy beyond doubt. It is publishing their mining address & sold hash power which updates in real time. Unfortunately, not a single cloud miner that exists today does this. ASIC producer vouching is simply eye wash as it easily be gained by bribing them. Like someone said before that BitcoinCloudServices 'bought' their space in Bitcoin Foundation to show legitimacy. It does not prove anything. What is left is ROI. How can we beat the declining price of Bitcoin. That is why the list maintained by OP is important. Where you can see the real profit chart beyond this legitimacy game. I guess there s no point arguing with you so I ll say the following. I will be here to remind you about your words when every single of these 3 ponzi services goes down. Regarding account, crazyivan was sailing these forums much before you have even heard about BTC so pls do not suggest I use more then one account and that I might be somebody else. Title: Re: Top Cloud Miners Compared by Profitability Post by: kaprosuchus on April 16, 2015, 02:04:55 PM I added a difficulty increase of 0.201%/day (based on the 100 day average) to my "days-to-break-even" calculation. [/url]It looks like most of the GH/s is overpriced by quite a bit... ;) https://i.imgur.com/cbgRKqC.png (https://sites.google.com/site/freebitcoinsforall/) Nice updated list. Please update it in the OP. Thanks and done! ;) Title: Re: Top Cloud Miners Compared by Profitability Post by: RussianRaibow on April 16, 2015, 02:50:25 PM I added a difficulty increase of 0.201%/day (based on the 100 day average) to my "days-to-break-even" calculation. It looks like most of the GH/s is overpriced by quite a bit... ;) Nice updated list. Please update it in the OP. Thanks and done! ;) U need to update the OP in HashTalk as well... :) Title: Re: Top Cloud Miners Compared by Profitability Post by: marcotheminer on April 16, 2015, 02:57:08 PM Thanks for adding this:
Quote Cloud Mining Risk Assessment: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=878387.0 Title: Re: Top Cloud Miners Compared by Profitability Post by: kaprosuchus on April 17, 2015, 01:30:00 PM https://i.imgur.com/CvpORYP.png (https://sites.google.com/site/freebitcoinsforall/) Note: I just added a "bitcoin price target for minimum profitability" to my table so you can see what price bitcoin needs to be for your favorite cloud miner to keep from going underwater. ;) Title: Re: Top Cloud Miners Compared by Profitability Post by: Sarthak on April 17, 2015, 01:34:48 PM Nice list :)
Better if you can mark sites in 3 divisions like ' legit' ,' Ponzi/scam' or' Yet to verify'.. Anyways Thanks for the contribution though :) Title: Re: Top Cloud Miners Compared by Profitability Post by: cryptojumper on April 17, 2015, 02:26:38 PM Nice list :) Better if you can mark sites in 3 divisions like ' legit' ,' Ponzi/scam' or' Yet to verify'.. Anyways Thanks for the contribution though :) Not so easy to judge. Hardware seems legit to me:) Hashnest and Bit-x too. All other are cloudy cloudmining at least. Title: Re: Top Cloud Miners Compared by Profitability Post by: kaprosuchus on April 17, 2015, 04:29:57 PM Nice list :) Better if you can mark sites in 3 divisions like ' legit' ,' Ponzi/scam' or' Yet to verify'.. Anyways Thanks for the contribution though :) Not so easy to judge. Hardware seems legit to me:) Hashnest and Bit-x too. All other are cloudy cloudmining at least. Even the "legit" sites can go bust like BUTTERFLYLABS, AMHASH and GAW... ;) Title: Re: Top Cloud Miners Compared by Profitability Post by: Sarthak on April 17, 2015, 04:50:09 PM Nice list :) Better if you can mark sites in 3 divisions like ' legit' ,' Ponzi/scam' or' Yet to verify'.. Anyways Thanks for the contribution though :) Not so easy to judge. Hardware seems legit to me:) Hashnest and Bit-x too. All other are cloudy cloudmining at least. Even the "legit" sites can go bust like BUTTERFLYLABS, AMHASH and GAW... ;) They may but chances are slightly less than the companies like scrypt.cc which are obvious Ponzi schemes which will run in the near future :) Title: Re: Top Cloud Miners Compared by Profitability Post by: marcotheminer on April 17, 2015, 04:59:32 PM Nice list :) Better if you can mark sites in 3 divisions like ' legit' ,' Ponzi/scam' or' Yet to verify'.. Anyways Thanks for the contribution though :) Not so easy to judge. Hardware seems legit to me:) Hashnest and Bit-x too. All other are cloudy cloudmining at least. Even the "legit" sites can go bust like BUTTERFLYLABS, AMHASH and GAW... ;) Every single one of those were like Mt. Gox, hundreds of warning signs.. It was pretty obvious, yet people ignored them due to their own greed. Title: Re: Top Cloud Miners Compared by Profitability Post by: RussianRaibow on April 17, 2015, 05:34:12 PM Nice list :) Better if you can mark sites in 3 divisions like ' legit' ,' Ponzi/scam' or' Yet to verify'.. Anyways Thanks for the contribution though :) Not so easy to judge. Hardware seems legit to me:) Hashnest and Bit-x too. All other are cloudy cloudmining at least. Even the "legit" sites can go bust like BUTTERFLYLABS, AMHASH and GAW... ;) Every single one of those were like Mt. Gox, hundreds of warning signs.. It was pretty obvious, yet people ignored them due to their own greed. That greedy people have also forgot that when AM hash was raising money for the scam and Puppet & army was going to every thread 'proving its legitimacy' you were the one saying people that AM hash & Bit-X are the 'only 2' legit cloud miners around. Such a hypocrite... Title: Re: Top Cloud Miners Compared by Profitability Post by: marcotheminer on April 17, 2015, 06:12:51 PM Nice list :) Better if you can mark sites in 3 divisions like ' legit' ,' Ponzi/scam' or' Yet to verify'.. Anyways Thanks for the contribution though :) Not so easy to judge. Hardware seems legit to me:) Hashnest and Bit-x too. All other are cloudy cloudmining at least. Even the "legit" sites can go bust like BUTTERFLYLABS, AMHASH and GAW... ;) Every single one of those were like Mt. Gox, hundreds of warning signs.. It was pretty obvious, yet people ignored them due to their own greed. That greedy people have also forgot that when AM hash was raising money for the scam and Puppet & army was going to every thread 'proving its legitimacy' you were the one saying people that AM hash & Bit-X are the 'only 2' legit cloud miners around. Such a hypocrite... Don't think I ever talked about AM hash. I'm pretty sure I never reference AMhash and Bit-X in the same post as being legitimate. I know you'll try to prove me wrong, feel free to do so if you wish. Anyway AMhash was most likely the less obvious of the bunch. Title: Re: Top Cloud Miners Compared by Profitability Post by: Lorenzo on April 17, 2015, 11:14:37 PM Didn't someone here once say that the more profitable cloud mining companies are likely to be ponzis that will eventually collapse vs. less profitable companies which are more likely to be actually mining? I know PBMining had very high ROI compared to companies like CEX.IO at the time which were unprofitable since day 1. If one of the requirements of mining with a high-ROI company is to accept the very real risk that it will suddenly collapse one day then that doesn't the existence of that risk negate the expected ROI?
Or are you seeing it as just a gamble rather than an investment? If so, then it's really not that different (in fact, it's the exact same thing) as those people who play ponzis disguised as HYIPs despite realizing their nature and knowing the risks involved. Title: Re: Top Cloud Miners Compared by Profitability Post by: kaprosuchus on April 20, 2015, 03:06:00 PM UMISOO and Ant S2 no longer technically "underwater"... ;)
Title: Re: Top Cloud Miners Compared by Profitability Post by: RocketSingh on April 20, 2015, 03:35:31 PM UMISOO and Ant S2 no longer technically "underwater"... ;) There are few listed in OP as follows... CLO.MIN.WEB 100 BIT.CLO.SRV. 1000 BIT.CLO.SRV. 100 What does this 100 & 1000 mean ? Title: Re: Top Cloud Miners Compared by Profitability Post by: kaprosuchus on April 20, 2015, 04:57:27 PM UMISOO and Ant S2 no longer technically "underwater"... ;) There are few listed in OP as follows... CLO.MIN.WEB 100 BIT.CLO.SRV. 1000 BIT.CLO.SRV. 100 What does this 100 & 1000 mean ? Profit calculated with 100 GH/s discount. Profit calculated with 1000 GH/s discount. ;) Title: Re: Top Cloud Miners Compared by Profitability Post by: RocketSingh on April 20, 2015, 05:03:29 PM UMISOO and Ant S2 no longer technically "underwater"... ;) There are few listed in OP as follows... CLO.MIN.WEB 100 BIT.CLO.SRV. 1000 BIT.CLO.SRV. 100 What does this 100 & 1000 mean ? Profit calculated with 100 GH/s discount. Profit calculated with 1000 GH/s discount. ;) Have you invested yourself in CLO.MIN.WEB or BIT.CLO.SRV. to report these returns ? Title: Re: Top Cloud Miners Compared by Profitability Post by: kaprosuchus on April 20, 2015, 05:54:38 PM UMISOO and Ant S2 no longer technically "underwater"... ;) There are few listed in OP as follows... CLO.MIN.WEB 100 BIT.CLO.SRV. 1000 BIT.CLO.SRV. 100 What does this 100 & 1000 mean ? Profit calculated with 100 GH/s discount. Profit calculated with 1000 GH/s discount. ;) Have you invested yourself in CLO.MIN.WEB or BIT.CLO.SRV. to report these returns ? I get daily payouts to my private wallet from BIT.CLO.SRV. and I am currently testing CLO.MIN.WEB. Title: Re: Top Cloud Miners Compared by Profitability Post by: RussianRaibow on April 20, 2015, 08:13:52 PM I get daily payouts to my private wallet from BIT.CLO.SRV. and I am currently testing CLO.MIN.WEB. As I can see, you have mentioned that it takes ~155 days to ROI for CLO.MIN.WEB. Did you calculate it yourself ? Because, it took ~120 days for me and 114 days for another third party monitoring service as I pointed out here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1009758.msg11087279#msg11087279. Title: Re: Top Cloud Miners Compared by Profitability Post by: crazyivan on April 20, 2015, 08:26:02 PM I get daily payouts to my private wallet from BIT.CLO.SRV. and I am currently testing CLO.MIN.WEB. As I can see, you have mentioned that it takes ~155 days to ROI for CLO.MIN.WEB. Did you calculate it yourself ? Because, it took ~120 days for me and 114 days for another third party monitoring service as I pointed out here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1009758.msg11087279#msg11087279. You do understand market conditions change and he updates his chart regularly? Title: Re: Top Cloud Miners Compared by Profitability Post by: RussianRaibow on April 20, 2015, 08:59:05 PM I get daily payouts to my private wallet from BIT.CLO.SRV. and I am currently testing CLO.MIN.WEB. As I can see, you have mentioned that it takes ~155 days to ROI for CLO.MIN.WEB. Did you calculate it yourself ? Because, it took ~120 days for me and 114 days for another third party monitoring service as I pointed out here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1009758.msg11087279#msg11087279. You do understand market conditions change and he updates his chart regularly? I am asking this because I am well aware about the market conditions. My payment did not stop after ROI. I am still getting paid and at this rate it should not take more than 120 days to ROI. Title: Re: Top Cloud Miners Compared by Profitability Post by: marcotheminer on April 20, 2015, 09:09:01 PM I get daily payouts to my private wallet from BIT.CLO.SRV. and I am currently testing CLO.MIN.WEB. As I can see, you have mentioned that it takes ~155 days to ROI for CLO.MIN.WEB. Did you calculate it yourself ? Because, it took ~120 days for me and 114 days for another third party monitoring service as I pointed out here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1009758.msg11087279#msg11087279. You do understand market conditions change and he updates his chart regularly? I am asking this because I am well aware about the market conditions. My payment did not stop after ROI. I am still getting paid and at this rate it should not take more than 120 days to ROI. Past performance does not guarantee future results. ROI for any site can change depending on the network. Title: Re: Top Cloud Miners Compared by Profitability Post by: kapetan on April 20, 2015, 09:10:05 PM About ROI
i personally use small deference calc about ROI total investment in btc / today's daily payment in btc en example scrypt.cc this time have a good ROI than others 10 btc investment / 0,16099578 btc (today's daily payment) = 62,11 days so simple i called current ROI or today's ROI as can change as total investment or Estimated Daily Income (average daily income) can change also Title: Re: Top Cloud Miners Compared by Profitability Post by: RussianRaibow on April 20, 2015, 09:15:30 PM I get daily payouts to my private wallet from BIT.CLO.SRV. and I am currently testing CLO.MIN.WEB. As I can see, you have mentioned that it takes ~155 days to ROI for CLO.MIN.WEB. Did you calculate it yourself ? Because, it took ~120 days for me and 114 days for another third party monitoring service as I pointed out here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1009758.msg11087279#msg11087279. You do understand market conditions change and he updates his chart regularly? I am asking this because I am well aware about the market conditions. My payment did not stop after ROI. I am still getting paid and at this rate it should not take more than 120 days to ROI. Past performance does not guarantee future results. ROI for any site can change depending on the network. First of all, this account switching is very disturbing Marco. If you want to honestly argue, use at least one account per thread. By the way, have your boss at Bit-X found the mining address ? ::) Title: Re: Top Cloud Miners Compared by Profitability Post by: kaprosuchus on April 21, 2015, 02:25:27 PM I get daily payouts to my private wallet from BIT.CLO.SRV. and I am currently testing CLO.MIN.WEB. As I can see, you have mentioned that it takes ~155 days to ROI for CLO.MIN.WEB. Did you calculate it yourself ? Because, it took ~120 days for me and 114 days for another third party monitoring service as I pointed out here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1009758.msg11087279#msg11087279. Yes I calculate these numbers myself. Today my Payout-Rankings-Table (https://sites.google.com/site/freebitcoinsforall/) shows an estimate of 142.8939238 days-to-break-even for CLO.MIN.WEB. This calculation is based on current payout (which just increased) and it subtracts the daily average difficulty increase based on the previous 100 day average (currently 0.1801801801801800% daily) which recently decreased. I'm glad to hear you were able to break-even in 120 days! That's great! The payouts over the past 120 days were greater and the difficulty was lower than it is today, and in the future, payouts are expected to be lower (on average) and difficulty is expected to be higher resulting in a longer time-to-break-even. With the current difficulty rate, price of bitcoin, and payouts being what they are as-of-this-moment, I believe an expectation of 142.8939238 days-to-break-even for CLO.MIN.WEB is the most realistic. Thanks for your question. EDIT: If you're saying that CLO.MIN.WEB pays out at the same rate today that they paid 120 days ago, then they are not mining. Title: Re: Top Cloud Miners Compared by Profitability Post by: RussianRaibow on April 21, 2015, 03:55:47 PM I get daily payouts to my private wallet from BIT.CLO.SRV. and I am currently testing CLO.MIN.WEB. As I can see, you have mentioned that it takes ~155 days to ROI for CLO.MIN.WEB. Did you calculate it yourself ? Because, it took ~120 days for me and 114 days for another third party monitoring service as I pointed out here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1009758.msg11087279#msg11087279. Yes I calculate these numbers myself. Today my Payout-Rankings-Table (https://sites.google.com/site/freebitcoinsforall/) shows an estimate of 142.8939238 days-to-break-even for CLO.MIN.WEB. This calculation is based on current payout (which just increased) and it subtracts the daily average difficulty increase based on the previous 100 day average (currently 0.1801801801801800% daily) which recently decreased. I'm glad to hear you were able to break-even in 120 days! That's great! The payouts over the past 120 days were greater and the difficulty was lower than it is today, and in the future, payouts are expected to be lower (on average) and difficulty is expected to be higher resulting in a longer time-to-break-even. With the current difficulty rate, price of bitcoin, and payouts being what they are as-of-this-moment, I believe an expectation of 142.8939238 days-to-break-even for CLO.MIN.WEB is the most realistic. Thanks for your question. EDIT: If you're saying that CLO.MIN.WEB pays out at the same rate today that they paid 120 days ago, then they are not mining. Thanks for the details update. By same rate, I mean around the same % of ideal payout over the period of a week, which itself decrease/increase depending on the difficulty. I think our calculation difference is happening because you are taking 100 day average to compute the future difficulty. Title: Re: Top Cloud Miners Compared by Profitability Post by: blacklizard on April 22, 2015, 07:01:17 PM kaprosuchus your estimate for GetHashing is a little off unless your numbers are just from April which wasn't the best so far.
GHfarm since it's launch in mid February: https://i.imgur.com/4Eb7J3p.jpg https://i.imgur.com/jAIArpe.jpg Average payout per GHX over 59 days 0.00007377 BTC / GHX / day. My batch 1 history: https://i.imgur.com/4oeFPdz.jpg Title: Re: Top Cloud Miners Compared by Profitability Post by: kaprosuchus on April 22, 2015, 09:15:46 PM kaprosuchus your estimate for GetHashing is a little off unless your numbers are just from April which wasn't the best so far. GHfarm since it's launch in mid February: https://i.imgur.com/4Eb7J3p.jpg (https://i.imgur.com/4Eb7J3p.jpg) https://i.imgur.com/jAIArpe.jpg (https://i.imgur.com/jAIArpe.jpg) Average payout per GHX over 59 days 0.00007377 BTC / GHX / day. My batch 1 history: https://i.imgur.com/4oeFPdz.jpg (https://i.imgur.com/4oeFPdz.jpg) Thanks for the numbers! I have marked my entry as "GHXv2" which would be the "from April" as you stated and should be generating btc April 25th(?). Your stated "51%" in fees is not far off from my table which shows "56%" in fees which is calculated dynamically based on a $0.50 per GH/s (GHX being the only one on the list calculated in $USD). And I'd like to note that since 1 GHX is supposed to equal 10 GH/s, your "0.00007377 BTC / GHX / day" comes to "0.000007377 BTC / GH/s / day" which I'm hoping is after-fees because otherwise that is a pretty low payout. BTW a 153 days-to-break-even would be pretty nice! But I'm not sure how that calculation is being made (purchase price calculated in USD or BTC?). I will be carefully watching the GHXv2 as soon as it is delivered and I will make any adjustments necessary to increase the accuracy of my calculations. I like what the gethashing team is trying to do and I wish them the best of luck! ;) Title: Re: Top Cloud Miners Compared by Profitability Post by: kaprosuchus on April 27, 2015, 05:53:37 PM Ant S2 and UMISOO back underwater.
Need to see bitcoin back to $224.72 for minimum profitability. ;) Title: Re: Top Cloud Miners Compared by Profitability Post by: crazyivan on April 27, 2015, 06:16:24 PM kaprosuchus your estimate for GetHashing is a little off unless your numbers are just from April which wasn't the best so far. GHfarm since it's launch in mid February: https://i.imgur.com/4Eb7J3p.jpg https://i.imgur.com/jAIArpe.jpg Average payout per GHX over 59 days 0.00007377 BTC / GHX / day. My batch 1 history: https://i.imgur.com/4oeFPdz.jpg Well, 153 days of break-even s still great result. Title: Re: Top Cloud Miners Compared by Profitability Post by: kaprosuchus on April 28, 2015, 02:48:11 PM https://i.imgur.com/RZHIB8X.png (https://sites.google.com/site/freebitcoinsforall/) UMISOO and Ant S2 hovering around break-even... Title: Re: Top Cloud Miners Compared by Profitability Post by: kaprosuchus on April 29, 2015, 08:16:57 PM Can you share the link you used to get this "days until break even:" info? I'm guessing it's from coinprism but I can't seem to find it. Thanks!! Title: Re: Top Cloud Miners Compared by Profitability Post by: jdebunt on April 30, 2015, 06:03:32 AM Scrypt.CC is still looking very profitable compared to others. Not sure how they do it but it's impressive.... :)
Title: Re: Top Cloud Miners Compared by Profitability Post by: TriggerX on April 30, 2015, 07:17:14 AM Scrypt.CC is still looking very profitable compared to others. Not sure how they do it but it's impressive.... :) Scrypt.cc doesn't look much of a cloud mining service to me. The website itself looks shady but that's just my opinion. The chart looks nice but it's not so eye appealing. Is there a chance you can make the chart look better? Title: Re: Top Cloud Miners Compared by Profitability Post by: crazyivan on April 30, 2015, 07:28:54 AM Can you share the link you used to get this "days until break even:" info? I'm guessing it's from coinprism but I can't seem to find it. Thanks!! Yes, I would like to know this as well. I ve purchased a few test GHX and I do not get even close result to this. I do need a few more payments to be able to comment on this issue. Title: Re: Top Cloud Miners Compared by Profitability Post by: jdebunt on April 30, 2015, 10:42:54 AM Scrypt.cc doesn't look much of a cloud mining service to me. The website itself looks shady but that's just my opinion. The chart looks nice but it's not so eye appealing. Is there a chance you can make the chart look better? Oh I feel you there, it looks like a gateway to send people to uncharted islands which they'll buy with your funds. Not going to use them myself, been burned by Cointellect so that's enough of cloud mining for me. Title: Re: Top Cloud Miners Compared by Profitability Post by: kaprosuchus on April 30, 2015, 12:56:04 PM The chart looks nice but it's not so eye appealing. Is there a chance you can make the chart look better? I'm open to suggestions. I could just show the websites and days-to-break-even to simplify it, but I believe the BTC price target, daily payout %, fee %, average difficulty increase and the rest of it are all relevant to showing a fair comparison... The current version is actually pretty sleek compared to my original monster table... ;) Title: Re: Top Cloud Miners Compared by Profitability Post by: Sarthak on May 01, 2015, 04:03:20 AM Why not add stakeminers.com ?
They're awesome I heard and stakeminers isn't a Ponzi like scrypt.cc :) Title: Re: Top Cloud Miners Compared by Profitability Post by: crazyivan on May 01, 2015, 10:31:21 AM Why not add stakeminers.com ? They're awesome I heard and stakeminers isn't a Ponzi like scrypt.cc :) Cause the title of the thread is cloud miners and not cloud stakers. Title: Re: Top Cloud Miners Compared by Profitability Post by: kaprosuchus on May 01, 2015, 01:20:18 PM Why not add stakeminers.com ? This looks interesting. I'm checking into it. ;) Title: Re: Top Cloud Miners Compared by Profitability Post by: blacklizard on May 01, 2015, 05:30:06 PM Nice to see that GetHashing has made the list.
@OP, the fees for GH are not accurate. I assume that you've based your calculation only on numbers for April which wasn't a great month mainly because of Bitcoins exchange rate. The correct Payout vs Fees calculation from February through April is. https://i.imgur.com/IoFtKgP.jpg Title: Re: Top Cloud Miners Compared by Profitability Post by: crazyivan on May 01, 2015, 08:12:49 PM Nice to see that GetHashing has made the list. @OP, the fees for GH are not accurate. I assume that you've based your calculation only on numbers for April which wasn't a great month mainly because of Bitcoins exchange rate. The correct Payout vs Fees calculation from February through April is. https://i.imgur.com/IoFtKgP.jpg So, what s the ROI? Title: Re: Top Cloud Miners Compared by Profitability Post by: kaprosuchus on May 04, 2015, 01:41:53 PM Nice to see that GetHashing has made the list. @OP, the fees for GH are not accurate. I assume that you've based your calculation only on numbers for April which wasn't a great month mainly because of Bitcoins exchange rate. The correct Payout vs Fees calculation from February through April is. https://i.imgur.com/IoFtKgP.jpg I'm actually using the "Maintenance fee: $0.0014 per GH/s per day." quoted from the GetHashing purchasing page. Title: Re: Top Cloud Miners Compared by Profitability Post by: lunchboxer on May 04, 2015, 05:18:57 PM Could you explain the returns numbers for HashNest PACMIC. Their website estimates 22% APR return. Your chart says that it's more like 1% daily. That's a huge difference. What accounts for this discrepancy?
Title: Re: Top Cloud Miners Compared by Profitability Post by: crazyivan on May 04, 2015, 07:27:46 PM Nice to see that GetHashing has made the list. @OP, the fees for GH are not accurate. I assume that you've based your calculation only on numbers for April which wasn't a great month mainly because of Bitcoins exchange rate. The correct Payout vs Fees calculation from February through April is. https://i.imgur.com/IoFtKgP.jpg I'm actually using the "Maintenance fee: $0.0014 per GH/s per day." quoted from the GetHashing purchasing page. It seems that Maintenance fee s about to get reduced to $0.0013. Nice work GHX. Title: Re: Top Cloud Miners Compared by Profitability Post by: kaprosuchus on May 05, 2015, 02:24:53 PM Could you explain the returns numbers for HashNest PACMIC. Their website estimates 22% APR return. Your chart says that it's more like 1% daily. That's a huge difference. What accounts for this discrepancy? PACMiC pays 1.056% daily. It continues to pay 1.056% daily until you reach an estimated 105.6% of your original investment at which point the contract is closed. If you choose to activate the "auto buy" function, as long a new PACMiC contracts are available, your contract value will increase by 1.056% daily. My original PACMiC is currently worth 1.52810084 BTC, so if I turn off "auto buy" today, I will be paid 1.056% daily until I reach an estimated 105.6% of 1.52810084 BTC ending the contract with an estimated gross payout of 1.61367448704 BTC. Title: Re: Top Cloud Miners Compared by Profitability Post by: kaprosuchus on May 06, 2015, 07:55:41 PM Title: Re: Top Cloud Miners Compared by Profitability Post by: crazyivan on May 06, 2015, 08:09:27 PM Could you explain the returns numbers for HashNest PACMIC. Their website estimates 22% APR return. Your chart says that it's more like 1% daily. That's a huge difference. What accounts for this discrepancy? PACMiC pays 1.056% daily. It continues to pay 1.056% daily until you reach an estimated 105.6% of your original investment at which point the contract is closed. If you choose to activate the "auto buy" function, as long a new PACMiC contracts are available, your contract value will increase by 1.056% daily. My original PACMiC is currently worth 1.52810084 BTC, so if I turn off "auto buy" today, I will be paid 1.056% daily until I reach an estimated 105.6% of 1.52810084 BTC ending the contract with an estimated gross payout of 1.61367448704 BTC. Unfortunately, these re out of stock. How often do they come in stock? Title: Re: Top Cloud Miners Compared by Profitability Post by: kaprosuchus on May 06, 2015, 09:33:31 PM Could you explain the returns numbers for HashNest PACMIC. Their website estimates 22% APR return. Your chart says that it's more like 1% daily. That's a huge difference. What accounts for this discrepancy? PACMiC pays 1.056% daily. It continues to pay 1.056% daily until you reach an estimated 105.6% of your original investment at which point the contract is closed. If you choose to activate the "auto buy" function, as long a new PACMiC contracts are available, your contract value will increase by 1.056% daily. My original PACMiC is currently worth 1.52810084 BTC, so if I turn off "auto buy" today, I will be paid 1.056% daily until I reach an estimated 105.6% of 1.52810084 BTC ending the contract with an estimated gross payout of 1.61367448704 BTC. Unfortunately, these re out of stock. How often do they come in stock? The last time they ran out, it took about a week for them to generate new contracts. Title: Re: Top Cloud Miners Compared by Profitability Post by: ajw7989 on May 06, 2015, 10:59:43 PM Hm makes Pacmic v1 look pretty enticing. I just hate having bitcoin tied up where I can not sell it which is why I have always been investing recently in the S3s. The S5s and S4s are expensive for the value although the S5 is enticing due to the daily volume making it much easier to get out at a reasonable price.
Title: Re: Top Cloud Miners Compared by Profitability Post by: crazyivan on May 07, 2015, 04:33:04 AM Could you explain the returns numbers for HashNest PACMIC. Their website estimates 22% APR return. Your chart says that it's more like 1% daily. That's a huge difference. What accounts for this discrepancy? PACMiC pays 1.056% daily. It continues to pay 1.056% daily until you reach an estimated 105.6% of your original investment at which point the contract is closed. If you choose to activate the "auto buy" function, as long a new PACMiC contracts are available, your contract value will increase by 1.056% daily. My original PACMiC is currently worth 1.52810084 BTC, so if I turn off "auto buy" today, I will be paid 1.056% daily until I reach an estimated 105.6% of 1.52810084 BTC ending the contract with an estimated gross payout of 1.61367448704 BTC. Unfortunately, these re out of stock. How often do they come in stock? The last time they ran out, it took about a week for them to generate new contracts. Do you have any idea how are they able to provide this profitability? In essence, this is mining without fees? Title: Re: Top Cloud Miners Compared by Profitability Post by: kaprosuchus on May 07, 2015, 01:12:43 PM https://i.imgur.com/dASRd9g.png (https://sites.google.com/site/freebitcoinsforall/) Title: Re: Top Cloud Miners Compared by Profitability Post by: kaprosuchus on May 07, 2015, 01:41:20 PM Do you have any idea how are they able to provide this profitability? In essence, this is mining without fees? Well, they do manufacture their own hardware so they are getting the best possible price there; and essentially you are leasing the miner for, say 200 days or so and they keep the rig. The main advantage to them is they ROI as soon as you pay your contract and in return they pay you a small premium near the end of the contract. Think of it like a bond, or a loan. Conceivably they can take your money today and use it to make more rigs, more quickly (and make more profit) than if they mined for themselves. Title: Re: Top Cloud Miners Compared by Profitability Post by: jdebunt on May 07, 2015, 02:14:31 PM One of these days I might actually sign up for Scrypt.cc lol. Wonder how long it'll take them to turn into a ponzi when I do so. Just my streak of bad luck with cloud mining I guess ;)
Title: Re: Top Cloud Miners Compared by Profitability Post by: crazyivan on May 07, 2015, 02:53:35 PM One of these days I might actually sign up for Scrypt.cc lol. Wonder how long it'll take them to turn into a ponzi when I do so. Just my streak of bad luck with cloud mining I guess ;) Haha, I can feel you inner struggle. :))) Over a year online and paying on time every single day. Title: Re: Top Cloud Miners Compared by Profitability Post by: flyingplows on May 07, 2015, 03:09:40 PM One of these days I might actually sign up for Scrypt.cc lol. Wonder how long it'll take them to turn into a ponzi when I do so. Just my streak of bad luck with cloud mining I guess ;) Don't fall for it man... If think it can happen any day now and they can follow the fate of PBmining which was also relatively long operational. Cloudmining companies do not turn into ponzies, most of them ARE ponzies and just collapses after some time when there is not enough new customers or the main scammer behind it decides to run ;) Title: Re: Top Cloud Miners Compared by Profitability Post by: Jimbrown on May 07, 2015, 03:18:58 PM One of these days I might actually sign up for Scrypt.cc lol. Wonder how long it'll take them to turn into a ponzi when I do so. Just my streak of bad luck with cloud mining I guess ;) Don't fall for it man... If think it can happen any day now and they can follow the fate of PBmining which was also relatively long operational. Cloudmining companies do not turn into ponzies, most of them ARE ponzies and just collapses after some time when there is not enough new customers or the main scammer behind it decides to run ;) checking their deposit address hundred of BTC coming daily to their pocket so they are still in safety zone :D :D Title: Re: Top Cloud Miners Compared by Profitability Post by: flyingplows on May 07, 2015, 03:39:19 PM Maybe they are sending these BTC to themselves to fake the real situation? Some devs of altcoins trade with themselves for example to fake the volume :)
But on the other hand this might be even true... This ponzi is still having good times due to super roi and heavy shilling. Title: Re: Top Cloud Miners Compared by Profitability Post by: Gultahin on May 07, 2015, 07:04:09 PM Well i've been on scryptcc for some time now, and if they are a ponzi this is definetly not the time they are failling, admin made a new post on the topic that announces scryptcc and many more users are getting in to it after this statement, and there is also some new security facilities on the site so it's all going on favor of them right now. And as the demand is rising a lot after this, the khs prices got an up of almost 20% in 4 days so ROI is getting bigger for new users
Title: Re: Top Cloud Miners Compared by Profitability Post by: kaprosuchus on May 07, 2015, 09:13:47 PM Well i've been on scryptcc for some time now, and if they are a ponzi this is definetly not the time they are failling, admin made a new post on the topic that announces scryptcc and many more users are getting in to it after this statement, and there is also some new security facilities on the site so it's all going on favor of them right now. And as the demand is rising a lot after this, the khs prices got an up of almost 20% in 4 days so ROI is getting bigger for new users Do you have a link to the post you referenced? I'd like to check it out. ;) Title: Re: Top Cloud Miners Compared by Profitability Post by: jdebunt on May 08, 2015, 05:43:56 AM Well i've been on scryptcc for some time now, and if they are a ponzi this is definetly not the time they are failling, admin made a new post on the topic that announces scryptcc and many more users are getting in to it after this statement, and there is also some new security facilities on the site so it's all going on favor of them right now. And as the demand is rising a lot after this, the khs prices got an up of almost 20% in 4 days so ROI is getting bigger for new users Glad to hear there is still work being done on the platform itself. Will keep an eye on it :) Title: Re: Top Cloud Miners Compared by Profitability Post by: kaprosuchus on May 14, 2015, 07:43:43 PM If anyone has suggestions they'd like me to consider adding to the list, just let me know! ;)
Title: Re: Top Cloud Miners Compared by Profitability Post by: kapetan on May 15, 2015, 10:44:59 AM My suggestions are on my sign
Title: Re: Top Cloud Miners Compared by Profitability Post by: jdebunt on May 15, 2015, 11:09:32 AM Well a few days into my MiningSweden contract, everything seems to be on target so far... will take a while to get an ROI though :)
Title: Re: Top Cloud Miners Compared by Profitability Post by: kaprosuchus on May 28, 2015, 06:35:07 PM Why not add stakeminers.com ? They're awesome I heard ... :) I finally got the numbers I needed to add them. Stakeminers is currently ranked number 9 on my list. ;) Title: Re: Top Cloud Miners Compared by Profitability Post by: kaprosuchus on June 09, 2015, 03:48:26 PM Could you explain the returns numbers for HashNest PACMIC. Their website estimates 22% APR return. Your chart says that it's more like 1% daily. That's a huge difference. What accounts for this discrepancy? PACMiC pays 1.056% daily. It continues to pay 1.056% daily until you reach an estimated 105.6% of your original investment at which point the contract is closed. If you choose to activate the "auto buy" function, as long a new PACMiC contracts are available, your contract value will increase by 1.056% daily. My original PACMiC is currently worth 1.52810084 BTC, so if I turn off "auto buy" today, I will be paid 1.056% daily until I reach an estimated 105.6% of 1.52810084 BTC ending the contract with an estimated gross payout of 1.61367448704 BTC. Unfortunately, these re out of stock. How often do they come in stock? The last time they ran out, it took about a week for them to generate new contracts. New PACMiC v2 contracts are available now! ;) Title: Re: Top Cloud Miners Compared by Profitability Post by: hermanto on June 13, 2015, 01:38:27 AM bitcoin cloud services warning warning scam?????
Title: Re: Top Cloud Miners Compared by Profitability Post by: kapetan on June 13, 2015, 01:59:25 AM Cloud Mining Break Even Project http://cloudbreakeven.blogspot.com
with invest2btc.slack.com is an diversifying investment crypto currency group. Title: Re: Top Cloud Miners Compared by Profitability Post by: hermanto on June 15, 2015, 01:17:44 PM bcs(bitcoincloud services died scam
Title: Re: Top Cloud Miners Compared by Profitability Post by: kaprosuchus on June 15, 2015, 01:30:40 PM bitcoin cloud services warning warning scam????? Thanks for the heads-up. I've taken them off the list. ;) Title: Re: Top Cloud Miners Compared by Profitability Post by: kaprosuchus on June 15, 2015, 01:33:49 PM ;) BTC ;D BTC ;) BTC Compare Cloud Miners by Daily Payout!! - HashNest vs. all BTC ;) BTC ;D BTC ;) (https://sites.google.com/site/freebitcoinsforall/?ref=bct1) Title: Re: Top Cloud Miners Compared by Profitability Post by: kaprosuchus on June 15, 2015, 04:57:27 PM Cloud Mining Break Even Project http://cloudbreakeven.blogspot.com with invest2btc.slack.com is an diversifying investment crypto currency group. I like the focus on break-even, but you might want to note "without difficulty"... ;) Title: Re: Top Cloud Miners Compared by Profitability Post by: kapetan on June 15, 2015, 05:30:09 PM my calcs at
Cloud Mining Break Even Project http://cloudbreakeven.blogspot.com based at current latest payments per khs(scrypt) or ghs (sha256) that means that included the current difficulty (no future one) Title: Re: Top Cloud Miners Compared by Profitability Post by: kaprosuchus on June 25, 2015, 05:57:58 PM 1) ZeusHash - $2.999 or 0.01218 BTC per GH/s SHA-256 (VGHSv1 30DAY) (https://sites.google.com/site/freebitcoinsforall/)
- ACTIVE - No fees! 3.36948096199215% earned per day. - Calculation: 0.00000976631+0.000406 divided by 0.01218 multiplied by 100. Note: No doubt inspired by Hashnest's PACMiC, Zeus is now offering VGHSv1 30Day contracts. This means you can buy GHS and reap all the rewards with Zero fees for 30 days at which point you get your original money back!!! - Calculation: (net) daily payout divided by purchase price multiplied by 100. ROI - estimated 29.67816145 days to break even without difficulty (or BTC price) increases. Title: Re: Top Cloud Miners Compared by Profitability Post by: avatar_kiyoshi on June 26, 2015, 07:32:47 AM Here is the list of which cloud mining service is ponzi or not : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=878387.0
Most all turn into ponzi scheme, just hashnets is legit. Title: Re: Top Cloud Miners Compared by Profitability Post by: kapetan on June 26, 2015, 10:11:22 AM have anybody calced the current break even of Hashnest's PACMiC v2 ?
Why somone invest on Zeushash VGHSv1 30Day contracts, when the brake eben is 29,7 days, where is the profit for the investor, 0,3 days profit ? Title: Re: Top Cloud Miners Compared by Profitability Post by: hagie on June 26, 2015, 10:46:14 AM can anyone explain with easy words what happens when I switch on AutoBuy in Pacmic and leave it on ?
Will the pricipal increase over time and the contract will last infinite ? Regards Title: Re: Top Cloud Miners Compared by Profitability Post by: SpanishSoldier on June 26, 2015, 10:50:26 AM Here is the list of which cloud mining service is ponzi or not : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=878387.0 Most all turn into ponzi scheme, just hashnets is legit. Those, which are not listed as Ponzi, went down with more money than the so called Ponzis :D i. Cex.io ii. KNC Cloud iii. AM hash iv Bit-X (Upcoming) Title: Re: Top Cloud Miners Compared by Profitability Post by: kaprosuchus on June 26, 2015, 03:58:15 PM Here is the list of which cloud mining service is ponzi or not : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=878387.0 Most all turn into ponzi scheme, just hashnets is legit. Well, don't forget GetHashing GHX... Title: Re: Top Cloud Miners Compared by Profitability Post by: kaprosuchus on June 26, 2015, 04:01:32 PM can anyone explain with easy words what happens when I switch on AutoBuy in Pacmic and leave it on ? Will the pricipal increase over time and the contract will last infinite ? Regards Principal will increase very slowly and your THS will increase relatively quickly - I have an open ticket with Bitmain asking for an explanation of this. Also, your principal will only increase as long as new contracts are available. Auto-buy is automatically disabled if they are sold out of your contract type. Also, there is a small fee attached with Auto-buy - I have an open ticket with Bitmain asking for an explanation of this. Title: Re: Top Cloud Miners Compared by Profitability Post by: kaprosuchus on June 26, 2015, 04:02:53 PM have anybody calced the current break even of Hashnest's PACMiC v2 ? Why somone invest on Zeushash VGHSv1 30Day contracts, when the brake eben is 29,7 days, where is the profit for the investor, 0,3 days profit ? At the end of 30 days you keep your 30 days of mining rewards AND you get your original purchase price refunded. So you're basically getting 30 days of mining for free. --edit-- I will recalculate to reflect a more accurate break-even estimate --edit-- Without the payback at 30 days, mining only, days to break even is: -5441.700637 (with diff projection). Current expected (mining only) return for 1GH/S of VGHSv1 for 30 days is about 0.0003156585 BTC or $0.07754 at current rates. In real terms, you're looking at 102.5855285095031677% earned in 30 days which is (with compounding) about 135.8417296674594% in 12 months (without diff). (https://sites.google.com/site/freebitcoinsforall/) And the break-even for PACMiCv2 is the same as PACMiCv1... ;) Title: Re: Top Cloud Miners Compared by Profitability Post by: crazyivan on June 26, 2015, 07:26:52 PM have anybody calced the current break even of Hashnest's PACMiC v2 ? Why somone invest on Zeushash VGHSv1 30Day contracts, when the brake eben is 29,7 days, where is the profit for the investor, 0,3 days profit ? At the end of 30 days you keep your 30 days of mining rewards AND you get your original purchase price refunded. So you're basically getting 30 days of mining for free. --edit-- I will recalculate to reflect a more accurate break-even estimate --edit-- Without the payback at 30 days, mining only, days to break even is: -5441.700637 (with diff projection). Current expected (mining only) return for 1GH/S of VGHSv1 for 30 days is about 0.0003156585 BTC or $0.07754 at current rates. In real terms, you're looking at 102.5855285095031677% earned in 30 days which is (with compounding) about 135.8417296674594% in 12 months (without diff). (https://sites.google.com/site/freebitcoinsforall/) And the break-even for PACMiCv2 is the same as PACMiCv1... ;) Something s fishy about that Zeus, they ve been well know to screw over their customers, based on past experience. Personally, I ll never use anything cloud anymore, recently just invest into staking, much better and safer then mining. Title: Re: Top Cloud Miners Compared by Profitability Post by: BitcoinNewsMagazine on June 27, 2015, 08:05:09 PM Zeus Halley contracts are considerably less profitable than Hashnest offerings. The new ZeusHash Batch 1 VGHS is sold out. If they offer the product again I will give it a try and add to the spreadsheet for hosted bitcoin mining (https://bitcoinnewsmagazine.com/how-to-profit-with-bitmain-hashnest/) I keep up.
Title: Re: Top Cloud Miners Compared by Profitability Post by: mmmaybe on June 28, 2015, 12:10:58 AM Zeus Halley contracts are considerably less profitable than Hashnest offerings. The new ZeusHash Batch 1 VGHS is sold out. If they offer the product again I will give it a try and add to the spreadsheet for hosted bitcoin mining (https://bitcoinnewsmagazine.com/how-to-profit-with-bitmain-hashnest/) I keep up. Just discovered that ZH's Batch 1 VGHS was sold out after depositing... Not a note on the news/blog page from them. Bad. Title: Re: Top Cloud Miners Compared by Profitability Post by: kaprosuchus on July 07, 2015, 02:44:46 PM Cloudminr has been taken off the list... ;)
Title: Re: Top Cloud Miners Compared by Profitability Post by: TheGeorge on July 07, 2015, 03:26:14 PM Cloudminr has been taken off the list... ;) How is www.CloudMining.website performing ? Title: Re: Top Cloud Miners Compared by Profitability Post by: kaprosuchus on July 07, 2015, 07:26:31 PM Cloudminr has been taken off the list... ;) How is www.CloudMining.website performing ? 0.84762697751873500% per day at the moment... ;) Title: Re: Top Cloud Miners Compared by Profitability Post by: tommorisonwebdesign on July 07, 2015, 11:05:32 PM Stay away from cloud miners! Most of them are ponzis. I have recieved mining payments from cloudminr before, so I spent a lot of my freshly mined coins on more hashpower. Now I earn about $30 a month. I am hoping the price will continue to go up.
Title: Re: Top Cloud Miners Compared by Profitability Post by: BitcoinNewsMagazine on July 08, 2015, 01:51:31 AM Stay away from cloud miners! Most of them are ponzis. I have recieved mining payments from cloudminr before, so I spent a lot of my freshly mined coins on more hashpower. Now I earn about $30 a month. I am hoping the price will continue to go up. There is nothing wrong with buying hosted bitcoin mining at Hashnest. You can sell at will. By timing your buys and sells properly, and selecting the right hashing power, it is not difficult to make +15% profit monthly with little risk. Certainly stay away from any cloud mining that does not have a marketplace where you can sell your investment if you should choose to. That limits you to only a few providers and Hashnest is largest and most liquid. Title: Re: Top Cloud Miners Compared by Profitability Post by: crazyivan on July 08, 2015, 09:40:27 AM Stay away from cloud miners! Most of them are ponzis. I have recieved mining payments from cloudminr before, so I spent a lot of my freshly mined coins on more hashpower. Now I earn about $30 a month. I am hoping the price will continue to go up. Strange you suggest people to stay away from ponzies and then invest into ponzi yourself. Cloudminr crashed a few days ago, since it was a ponzi after all. Title: Re: Top Cloud Miners Compared by Profitability Post by: kaprosuchus on July 09, 2015, 12:42:43 PM In other news, cloudminr appears to be dead. I've taken them off the list. I'm also taking off cloudmining.website preemptively... ;)
Title: Re: Top Cloud Miners Compared by Profitability Post by: tmfp on July 09, 2015, 01:21:55 PM .... I'm also taking off cloudmining.website preemptively... ;) Brace yourself for abuse from outraged shills. If they post that worthless CMMonitor link again I'll fucking scream ;D Title: Re: Top Cloud Miners Compared by Profitability Post by: kaprosuchus on July 10, 2015, 12:53:04 PM With BTC at $286 right now - UMISOO is paying an estimated 0.74155560972143600% daily... ;)
Title: Re: Top Cloud Miners Compared by Profitability Post by: yeponlyone on July 11, 2015, 08:48:04 AM Profitability means nothing if you invest in ponzi and lose all of your money. Only 2 companies currently pass my non-ponzi test, Hashnest and Bit-x. If anyone else would like me to test them or even write a review about them, just let me know. I agree, but you need to add https://www.miningsweden.se to your list. A more "open" company, we have yet to see. They even invite customers to visit their facilities. The company seems small, but my next investment will be there to spread the risk. I also think https://www.knccloud.com will be legit when there open publicly with their 16nm chips. Title: Re: Top Cloud Miners Compared by Profitability Post by: yeponlyone on July 11, 2015, 08:50:37 AM With BTC at $286 right now - UMISOO is paying an estimated 0.74155560972143600% daily... ;) Very nice, but how much power is UMISOO...? I can only seem to buy it on the market under Hash Title: Re: Top Cloud Miners Compared by Profitability Post by: Phildo on July 11, 2015, 02:40:06 PM Profitability means nothing if you invest in ponzi and lose all of your money. Only 2 companies currently pass my non-ponzi test, Hashnest and Bit-x. If anyone else would like me to test them or even write a review about them, just let me know. I agree, but you need to add https://www.miningsweden.se to your list. A more "open" company, we have yet to see. They even invite customers to visit their facilities. The company seems small, but my next investment will be there to spread the risk. I also think https://www.knccloud.com will be legit when there open publicly with their 16nm chips. Very open. No proof of fresh coins, never an answer to how their "vip shares" wouldn't cause any trouble with the authorities for being securities, etc. Title: Re: Top Cloud Miners Compared by Profitability Post by: yeponlyone on July 11, 2015, 02:47:13 PM I agree, but you need to add https://www.miningsweden.se to your list. A more "open" company, we have yet to see. --- --- never an answer to how their "vip shares" wouldn't cause any trouble with the authorities for being securities, etc.. Shorted the post. Very interesting. Do you claim that this has been asked and not answered by them multiple times? Title: Re: Top Cloud Miners Compared by Profitability Post by: BitcoinNewsMagazine on July 11, 2015, 03:29:24 PM Profitability means nothing if you invest in ponzi and lose all of your money. Only 2 companies currently pass my non-ponzi test, Hashnest and Bit-x. If anyone else would like me to test them or even write a review about them, just let me know. I agree, but you need to add https://www.miningsweden.se to your list. A more "open" company, we have yet to see. They even invite customers to visit their facilities. The company seems small, but my next investment will be there to spread the risk. I also think https://www.knccloud.com will be legit when there open publicly with their 16nm chips. Mining Sweden is legitimate but the more profitable Mining Shares are always sold out because the company makes more money selling VIP shares. The company also has an affiliate program and like Genesis Mining the money paid to affiliates comes out of profits. If the company does not have a market where hashing power can be sold just don't use the company. Title: Re: Top Cloud Miners Compared by Profitability Post by: kaprosuchus on July 14, 2015, 05:52:27 PM With BTC at $286 right now - UMISOO is paying an estimated 0.74155560972143600% daily... ;) Very nice, but how much power is UMISOO...? I can only seem to buy it on the market under Hash I'm not sure I understand your question. Yes, UMISOO is available from HashNest. Choose the menu item "hash", then "UMISOO", then "market" to find the buying menu. "Power" would be 0.67478569276522800% daily at present... ;) Title: Re: Top Cloud Miners Compared by Profitability Post by: yeponlyone on July 14, 2015, 08:22:54 PM With BTC at $286 right now - UMISOO is paying an estimated 0.74155560972143600% daily... ;) Very nice, but how much power is UMISOO...? I can only seem to buy it on the market under Hash I'm not sure I understand your question. Yes, UMISOO is available from HashNest. Choose the menu item "hash", then "UMISOO", then "market" to find the buying menu. "Power" would be 0.67478569276522800% daily at present... ;) Sorry for the confusion. A hopefully better way of expressing it would be: How many GHS does UMISOO has, given that it can be bought as an unit (as we can buy an S5). Title: Re: Top Cloud Miners Compared by Profitability Post by: kaprosuchus on July 14, 2015, 09:58:12 PM With BTC at $286 right now - UMISOO is paying an estimated 0.74155560972143600% daily... ;) Very nice, but how much power is UMISOO...? I can only seem to buy it on the market under Hash I'm not sure I understand your question. Yes, UMISOO is available from HashNest. Choose the menu item "hash", then "UMISOO", then "market" to find the buying menu. "Power" would be 0.67478569276522800% daily at present... ;) Sorry for the confusion. A hopefully better way of expressing it would be: How many GHS does UMISOO has, given that it can be bought as an unit (as we can buy an S5). UMISOO are shares of AntS2 units. You can buy as little as 1 GH/s. Title: Re: Top Cloud Miners Compared by Profitability Post by: mmmaybe on July 14, 2015, 10:58:33 PM With BTC at $286 right now - UMISOO is paying an estimated 0.74155560972143600% daily... ;) Very nice, but how much power is UMISOO...? I can only seem to buy it on the market under Hash I'm not sure I understand your question. Yes, UMISOO is available from HashNest. Choose the menu item "hash", then "UMISOO", then "market" to find the buying menu. "Power" would be 0.67478569276522800% daily at present... ;) Sorry for the confusion. A hopefully better way of expressing it would be: How many GHS does UMISOO has, given that it can be bought as an unit (as we can buy an S5). UMISOO are shares of AntS2 units. You can buy as little as 1 GH/s. Title: Re: Top Cloud Miners Compared by Profitability Post by: yeponlyone on July 14, 2015, 11:00:25 PM With BTC at $286 right now - UMISOO is paying an estimated 0.74155560972143600% daily... ;) Very nice, but how much power is UMISOO...? I can only seem to buy it on the market under Hash I'm not sure I understand your question. Yes, UMISOO is available from HashNest. Choose the menu item "hash", then "UMISOO", then "market" to find the buying menu. "Power" would be 0.67478569276522800% daily at present... ;) Sorry for the confusion. A hopefully better way of expressing it would be: How many GHS does UMISOO has, given that it can be bought as an unit (as we can buy an S5). UMISOO are shares of AntS2 units. You can buy as little as 1 GH/s. Thank you, but that makes it even more confusing. Why are UMISOO shares separated from the regular S2s, which you also can buy as little as 1 GH/s of? Title: Re: Top Cloud Miners Compared by Profitability Post by: BitcoinNewsMagazine on July 14, 2015, 11:57:23 PM At Hashnest there are 5 classes of GH/s and they vary based on the amount of fees you are charged. S5 has the lowest as a percentage of earnings. All GH/s pay the same gross amount, it's the net that tends to vary. S2 is thinly traded so you can usually ignore it. Also the most profitable contract tends to vary week to week. Don't concentrate on ROI the most important figure is to calculate the daily $ yield per $ invested.
Title: Re: Top Cloud Miners Compared by Profitability Post by: kaprosuchus on July 15, 2015, 05:59:04 PM With BTC at $286 right now - UMISOO is paying an estimated 0.74155560972143600% daily... ;) Very nice, but how much power is UMISOO...? I can only seem to buy it on the market under Hash I'm not sure I understand your question. Yes, UMISOO is available from HashNest. Choose the menu item "hash", then "UMISOO", then "market" to find the buying menu. "Power" would be 0.67478569276522800% daily at present... ;) Sorry for the confusion. A hopefully better way of expressing it would be: How many GHS does UMISOO has, given that it can be bought as an unit (as we can buy an S5). UMISOO are shares of AntS2 units. You can buy as little as 1 GH/s. Thank you, but that makes it even more confusing. Why are UMISOO shares separated from the regular S2s, which you also can buy as little as 1 GH/s of? UMISOO is a 3rd party datacenter that hosts AntS2 units. They were the first available per GH/s shares for sale when HashNest originally went live. AntS2 units as listed now are hosted by BitMain. There is no difference between the two except for price. They both have the same payout and the same maintenance fee. Why is there a price difference? I guess more people trust the "AntS2 hosted by BitMain" idea and are willing to pay quite a bit more for that alone. Personally I am loading up on UMISOO at the moment... ;) Title: Re: Top Cloud Miners Compared by Profitability Post by: BitcoinNewsMagazine on July 15, 2015, 06:16:04 PM With BTC at $286 right now - UMISOO is paying an estimated 0.74155560972143600% daily... ;) Very nice, but how much power is UMISOO...? I can only seem to buy it on the market under Hash I'm not sure I understand your question. Yes, UMISOO is available from HashNest. Choose the menu item "hash", then "UMISOO", then "market" to find the buying menu. "Power" would be 0.67478569276522800% daily at present... ;) Sorry for the confusion. A hopefully better way of expressing it would be: How many GHS does UMISOO has, given that it can be bought as an unit (as we can buy an S5). UMISOO are shares of AntS2 units. You can buy as little as 1 GH/s. Thank you, but that makes it even more confusing. Why are UMISOO shares separated from the regular S2s, which you also can buy as little as 1 GH/s of? UMISOO is a 3rd party datacenter that hosts AntS2 units. They were the first available per GH/s shares for sale when HashNest originally went live. AntS2 units as listed now are hosted by BitMain. There is no difference between the two except for price. They both have the same payout and the same maintenance fee. Why is there a price difference? I guess more people trust the "AntS2 hosted by BitMain" idea and are willing to pay quite a bit more for that alone. Personally I am loading up on UMISOO at the moment... ;) No one is buying S2 contracts. Price is more expensive than UMISOO and volume is very thin. I agree that UMISOO is the highest yielding contract at Hashnest this week. It has the second highest trading volume after S5 (which has a lower yield than UMISOO this week.) Title: Re: Top Cloud Miners Compared by Profitability Post by: IanFoxley on July 15, 2015, 07:31:10 PM I just noticed on the Genesis Mining website that they have new 1 year contracts on offer.
So perhaps if someone could work out the ROI on those, that would be good. For example the cheapest you can purchase is 250GH/s for 72.50 USD or 1TH for 290 USD. Looks like the maintenance fees are the same at 0.0015 USD per GH/s but as contracts are cheaper, then ROI time should be less I guess. Ian Title: Re: Top Cloud Miners Compared by Profitability Post by: BitcoinNewsMagazine on July 15, 2015, 08:27:18 PM I just noticed on the Genesis Mining website that they have new 1 year contracts on offer. So perhaps if someone could work out the ROI on those, that would be good. For example the cheapest you can purchase is 250GH/s for 72.50 USD or 1TH for 290 USD. Looks like the maintenance fees are the same at 0.0015 USD per GH/s but as contracts are cheaper, then ROI time should be less I guess. Ian Business must be slow, no other reason for them to release a lower priced contract. Using your maintenance fee I ran the numbers using the Coinplorer (https://coinplorer.com/Hardware/Simulate) calculator. I set up the calculator to use the last 180 days difficulty increase and extrapolate into the future. Breakeven was longer than one year and at current BTC rate you would not even make your investment back. I guess the moral is never buy one year mining contracts, the only one who wins is the seller. There are better options like Hashnest. Title: Re: Top Cloud Miners Compared by Profitability Post by: kaprosuchus on July 16, 2015, 05:40:46 PM Updated rankings: https://forum.gethashing.com/uploads/default/original/2X/0/035614646df4ccb9c9e2199a1fd4b732530206c1.jpg (https://sites.google.com/site/freebitcoinsforall/?ref=bct2015_07_16) Click table to see most current version... ;) Title: Re: Top Cloud Miners Compared by Profitability Post by: IanFoxley on July 16, 2015, 06:17:05 PM Updated rankings: https://forum.gethashing.com/uploads/default/original/2X/0/035614646df4ccb9c9e2199a1fd4b732530206c1.jpg (https://sites.google.com/site/freebitcoinsforall/?ref=bct2015_07_16) Click table to see most current version... ;) Perhaps you can add the GM 1 year Master Contract to that. Would be interesting to compare. Title: Re: Top Cloud Miners Compared by Profitability Post by: kaprosuchus on July 16, 2015, 09:54:45 PM Updated rankings: https://forum.gethashing.com/uploads/default/original/2X/0/035614646df4ccb9c9e2199a1fd4b732530206c1.jpg (https://sites.google.com/site/freebitcoinsforall/?ref=bct2015_07_16) Click table to see most current version... ;) Perhaps you can add the GM 1 year Master Contract to that. Would be interesting to compare. I added them as GEN.MIN.1YEAR - Estimated days-to-break-even: 317.345659390 - So it looks like you'll have (an ESTIMATED) 47.65434061 days of profitability before your contract expires. Current daily payout: 0.38475982827586200% (ranked #9 just below the HashNest AntS2)... ;) Title: Re: Top Cloud Miners Compared by Profitability Post by: luis.imperator on July 19, 2015, 02:00:58 AM What happened to your website, dude? ??? :-\
Title: Re: Top Cloud Miners Compared by Profitability Post by: Rmcdermott927 on July 19, 2015, 06:55:33 AM How profitable are hashlets these days. They must be still, because Josh said so. (kidding)
Title: Re: Top Cloud Miners Compared by Profitability Post by: crazyivan on July 19, 2015, 07:21:41 AM Since you have already included stakeminers, why don't you include PoS coins as well?
It would widen investment options for people who follow your website. Title: Re: Top Cloud Miners Compared by Profitability Post by: yeponlyone on July 20, 2015, 03:04:45 AM Even if they offer a marginal profit overall, I love my PACMICs :D I assume it's mostly a psychological thing, but I enjoy getting paid fast, just as they find blocks, and invest it in other stuff at Hashnest.
Title: Re: Top Cloud Miners Compared by Profitability Post by: kaprosuchus on July 20, 2015, 01:35:53 PM What happened to your website, dude? ??? :-\ Thanks for the note! I've got it fixed now!! ;) Title: Re: Top Cloud Miners Compared by Profitability Post by: kaprosuchus on July 20, 2015, 02:02:54 PM Since you have already included stakeminers, why don't you include PoS coins as well? It would widen investment options for people who follow your website. I'm not sure I'd invest in individual coins. Stakeminers is a blended investment and pays weekly in bitcoin. This makes it similar to the other options listed. Title: Re: Top Cloud Miners Compared by Profitability Post by: kaprosuchus on July 23, 2015, 03:28:49 PM https://forum.gethashing.com/uploads/default/original/2X/4/4a5baf2ec200a1eb37220e07d6056e559ff6c803.png (https://sites.google.com/site/freebitcoinsforall/)
Updated cloud miners ranked by daily payout here: https://sites.google.com/site/freebitcoinsforall/ (https://sites.google.com/site/freebitcoinsforall/) Title: Re: Top Cloud Miners Compared by Profitability Post by: BitcoinNewsMagazine on July 23, 2015, 04:28:40 PM Hashnest used to be an inefficient market with different profitability among the mining contracts offered. That is no longer the case. See https://forum.bitmain.com/bbs/topics/1918 for details.
Since there is no longer an advantage to a particular contract it would make sense to buy the contract that is most liquid which is S5. However, there is an interesting glitch that may make UMISOO a hedge against bad pool luck explained at https://forum.bitmain.com/bbs/topics/1929 We will be working on a trading stategy for Hashnest based on momentum and will publish details once underway. At the moment we have our investment at Hashnest divided between UMISOO and S5. We were not happy with the returns on our PACMiCv1 contract see our blog article how to profit with Bitmain Hashnest (https://bitcoinnewsmagazine.com/how-to-profit-with-bitmain-hashnest/) for details. Just for grins we noticed ZeusHash VGHSv1 is back in stock and bought some today will report yield in 30 days. Not really expecting much but we like to try out the options to give our readers the real skinny. Title: Re: Top Cloud Miners Compared by Profitability Post by: kaprosuchus on July 23, 2015, 05:24:57 PM Hashnest used to be an ineffecient market with different profitability among the mining contracts offered. That is no longer the case. See https://forum.bitmain.com/bbs/topics/1918 for details. Since there is no longer an advantage to a particular contract it would make sense to buy the contract that is most liquid which is S5. However, there is an interesting glitch that may make UMISOO a hedge against bad pool luck explained at https://forum.bitmain.com/bbs/topics/1929 We will be working on a trading stategy for Hashnest based on momentum and will publish details once underway. At the moment we have our investment at Hashnest divided between UMISOO and S5. We were not happy with the returns on our PACMiCv1 contract see our blog article how to profit with Bitmain Hashnest (https://bitcoinnewsmagazine.com/how-to-profit-with-bitmain-hashnest/) for details. Just for grins we noticed ZeusHash VGHSv1 is back in stock and bought some today will report yield in 30 days. Not really expecting much but we like to try out the options to give our readers the real skinny. Ok, we'll see. In theory at least UMISOO and AntS2 contracts should be the same price... For now I'll just keep checking my profitability table... ;) Title: Re: Top Cloud Miners Compared by Profitability Post by: anderson00673 on July 28, 2015, 07:08:33 AM Hashnest used to be an inefficient market with different profitability among the mining contracts offered. That is no longer the case. See https://forum.bitmain.com/bbs/topics/1918 for details. Since there is no longer an advantage to a particular contract it would make sense to buy the contract that is most liquid which is S5. However, there is an interesting glitch that may make UMISOO a hedge against bad pool luck explained at https://forum.bitmain.com/bbs/topics/1929 We will be working on a trading stategy for Hashnest based on momentum and will publish details once underway. At the moment we have our investment at Hashnest divided between UMISOO and S5. We were not happy with the returns on our PACMiCv1 contract see our blog article how to profit with Bitmain Hashnest (https://bitcoinnewsmagazine.com/how-to-profit-with-bitmain-hashnest/) for details. Just for grins we noticed ZeusHash VGHSv1 is back in stock and bought some today will report yield in 30 days. Not really expecting much but we like to try out the options to give our readers the real skinny. Hey, thanks for the links. I like your blog! To the OP: I got a "site disabled for violating terms" or some such nonsense. I hope you can get it back, because this site is freaking awesome. Thanks for the site so far, and I hope to see it up again soon :) Title: Re: Top Cloud Miners Compared by Profitability Post by: kaprosuchus on July 28, 2015, 01:24:52 PM Hashnest used to be an inefficient market with different profitability among the mining contracts offered. That is no longer the case. See https://forum.bitmain.com/bbs/topics/1918 for details. Since there is no longer an advantage to a particular contract it would make sense to buy the contract that is most liquid which is S5. However, there is an interesting glitch that may make UMISOO a hedge against bad pool luck explained at https://forum.bitmain.com/bbs/topics/1929 We will be working on a trading stategy for Hashnest based on momentum and will publish details once underway. At the moment we have our investment at Hashnest divided between UMISOO and S5. We were not happy with the returns on our PACMiCv1 contract see our blog article how to profit with Bitmain Hashnest (https://bitcoinnewsmagazine.com/how-to-profit-with-bitmain-hashnest/) for details. Just for grins we noticed ZeusHash VGHSv1 is back in stock and bought some today will report yield in 30 days. Not really expecting much but we like to try out the options to give our readers the real skinny. Hey, thanks for the links. I like your blog! To the OP: I got a "site disabled for violating terms" or some such nonsense. I hope you can get it back, because this site is freaking awesome. Thanks for the site so far, and I hope to see it up again soon :) Thanks for the encouragement! My site is back up again! It seems that someone is harassing me by "reporting" my site without telling me what their complaint is. I've tried to pack in all of the information I'd want to see into my profitability comparison table. I'm glad you're finding it useful! ;) Title: Re: Top Cloud Miners Compared by Profitability Post by: kaprosuchus on July 28, 2015, 02:26:28 PM https://forum.gethashing.com/uploads/default/original/2X/b/bf9b1197acc3e5089a3085aa41f84faf36ee897f.png (https://sites.google.com/site/freebitcoinsforall/) Updated cloud miners ranked by daily payout here: https://sites.google.com/site/freebitcoinsforall/ (https://sites.google.com/site/freebitcoinsforall/) ;) Title: Re: Top Cloud Miners Compared by Profitability Post by: anderson00673 on July 29, 2015, 06:30:00 PM Just a question, what is the difference between Umisoo and umisoo averaged? I know it should be obvious, so sorry for the noob :P
Title: Re: Top Cloud Miners Compared by Profitability Post by: kaprosuchus on July 30, 2015, 01:47:54 PM Just a question, what is the difference between Umisoo and umisoo averaged? I know it should be obvious, so sorry for the noob :P The UMISOO listing is calculated with the most current price available. The UMISOO AVERAGED listing is calculated as an average daily price starting July 10th. Thanks for your question. ;) Title: Re: Top Cloud Miners Compared by Profitability Post by: GermanGiant on July 30, 2015, 01:49:11 PM Just a question, what is the difference between Umisoo and umisoo averaged? I know it should be obvious, so sorry for the noob :P The UMISOO listing is calculated with the most current price available. The UMISOO AVERAGED listing is calculated as an average daily price starting July 10th. Thanks for your question. ;) Looks like u r master of HashNest ;) Title: Re: Top Cloud Miners Compared by Profitability Post by: kaprosuchus on July 30, 2015, 01:50:34 PM Re: asking about cloud mining in general:
The Zeus VGHS offers a quick payback but very very low return on investment, similar to the HashNest PACMiC. Everything is pretty high risk in the Cloud Mining department and I'd say the AntS5's are going to hold their value and continue to payout more consistently than anything else. UMISOO looks pretty attractive at the moment but as we all know, the BTC to USD ratio could swing in the wrong direction and UMISOO would be back underwater at the drop of a hat. So, still better odds than an online casino, but don't forget it's all a risk. And to answer your question, in my opinion, there is no compelling reason to look at anything except AntS5 and UMISOO. The other HashNest offerings trade at much lower volume so you would have a lot of trouble getting out of them if you decided to sell at some future date. Title: Re: Top Cloud Miners Compared by Profitability Post by: BitcoinNewsMagazine on July 30, 2015, 03:08:23 PM As a day trader I take a different approach to buying at Hashnest. I am not concerned with ROI but only yield/day and price trend. I only hold open positions for one day usually. If you go into your account and check one day chart history for the contracts only UMISOO and S3 are trending up. Don't bother with S2 as volume is too low and market is not liquid. I would not buy S5 as price is in a downtrend.
Both UMISOO and S3 price are in good uptrends. They also offer the highest return per day for mining if you have a position open. When I place an order I try to buy at 1% less than the last price, when filled I place a sell order at fill plus 2%. I can usually get a 2% return per day. Some days I may settle for 1% depending on price action. 1% per day is still 30% per month without the risk of buy and hold. Title: Re: Top Cloud Miners Compared by Profitability Post by: kaprosuchus on July 31, 2015, 10:04:10 PM I've been researching daily reinvestment to produce compound daily interest vs. accumulating simple interest and ignoring your principal.
I've accounted for GH/s value decline over time and mining difficulty increases and I found something I wasn't expecting. It looks like if you start out with an average of 0.3% earned per day you actually make (lose) (-59.75%) of your original investment. If you simply chose to accumulate instead of reinvest your earnings (over a 366 day example) you actually make 114.301619216228% of your original investment (even without including your principal!!). Here's a brief overview of my conclusions: Starting with a daily payout percentage of 0.3=Daily compounding earns (-59.75%) of what you would earn by simply accumulating your mining payouts. 0.3=(-59.75%) 0.4=1.43% 0.5=37.34% 0.6=69% To earn an equal or greater amount by compounding than you would with accumulation, you need to start with a minimum of 0.7% daily payout percentage. 0.7=103.45% 0.8=144.46% 0.9=196.04% 1=262.72% 1.1=350.37% 1.2=466.78% Questions welcome! This is a puzzle I've been trying to figure out since I first became interested in bitcoin! ;) Title: Re: Top Cloud Miners Compared by Profitability Post by: anderson00673 on August 03, 2015, 03:35:41 AM I've been researching daily reinvestment to produce compound daily interest vs. accumulating simple interest and ignoring your principal. I've accounted for GH/s value decline over time and mining difficulty increases and I found something I wasn't expecting. It looks like if you start out with an average of 0.3% earned per day you actually make (lose) (-59.75%) of your original investment. If you simply chose to accumulate instead of reinvest your earnings (over a 366 day example) you actually make 114.301619216228% of your original investment (even without including your principal!!). Here's a brief overview of my conclusions: Starting with a daily payout percentage of 0.3=Daily compounding earns (-59.75%) of what you would earn by simply accumulating your mining payouts. 0.3=(-59.75%) 0.4=1.43% 0.5=37.34% 0.6=69% To earn an equal or greater amount by compounding than you would with accumulation, you need to start with a minimum of 0.7% daily payout percentage. 0.7=103.45% 0.8=144.46% 0.9=196.04% 1=262.72% 1.1=350.37% 1.2=466.78% Questions welcome! This is a puzzle I've been trying to figure out since I first became interested in bitcoin! ;) Hi, sorry I don't quite understand, but are you saying that re-investing is worse than taking the payout and hodling it? Title: Re: Top Cloud Miners Compared by Profitability Post by: Phildo on August 03, 2015, 12:45:32 PM I've been researching daily reinvestment to produce compound daily interest vs. accumulating simple interest and ignoring your principal. I've accounted for GH/s value decline over time and mining difficulty increases and I found something I wasn't expecting. It looks like if you start out with an average of 0.3% earned per day you actually make (lose) (-59.75%) of your original investment. If you simply chose to accumulate instead of reinvest your earnings (over a 366 day example) you actually make 114.301619216228% of your original investment (even without including your principal!!). Here's a brief overview of my conclusions: Starting with a daily payout percentage of 0.3=Daily compounding earns (-59.75%) of what you would earn by simply accumulating your mining payouts. 0.3=(-59.75%) 0.4=1.43% 0.5=37.34% 0.6=69% To earn an equal or greater amount by compounding than you would with accumulation, you need to start with a minimum of 0.7% daily payout percentage. 0.7=103.45% 0.8=144.46% 0.9=196.04% 1=262.72% 1.1=350.37% 1.2=466.78% Questions welcome! This is a puzzle I've been trying to figure out since I first became interested in bitcoin! ;) It's not a puzzle, it's common sense. Doubling down on a good investment leaves you with more money, doubling down on a bad investment leaves you with less money. If a miner will generate more coins than you pay to get it (or hashpower from a cloud mining site) getting more of them or more hashpower will leave you with more money than you started with. If it doesn't "reinvesting" will just lead to more bad investments and less money. Title: Re: Top Cloud Miners Compared by Profitability Post by: kaprosuchus on August 03, 2015, 12:58:12 PM I've been researching daily reinvestment to produce compound daily interest vs. accumulating simple interest and ignoring your principal. I've accounted for GH/s value decline over time and mining difficulty increases and I found something I wasn't expecting. It looks like if you start out with an average of 0.3% earned per day you actually make (lose) (-59.75%) of your original investment. If you simply chose to accumulate instead of reinvest your earnings (over a 366 day example) you actually make 114.301619216228% of your original investment (even without including your principal!!). Here's a brief overview of my conclusions: Starting with a daily payout percentage of 0.3=Daily compounding earns (-59.75%) of what you would earn by simply accumulating your mining payouts. 0.3=(-59.75%) 0.4=1.43% 0.5=37.34% 0.6=69% To earn an equal or greater amount by compounding than you would with accumulation, you need to start with a minimum of 0.7% daily payout percentage. 0.7=103.45% 0.8=144.46% 0.9=196.04% 1=262.72% 1.1=350.37% 1.2=466.78% Questions welcome! This is a puzzle I've been trying to figure out since I first became interested in bitcoin! ;) Hi, sorry I don't quite understand, but are you saying that re-investing is worse than taking the payout and hodling it? Yes, in some cases. If your initial yield is less than 0.7% daily return, you are better off NOT reinvesting. At least from what I can tell with my latest calculations... ;) Title: Re: Top Cloud Miners Compared by Profitability Post by: Furio on August 03, 2015, 01:11:20 PM I find any person willing to pay a cloud mining company nowadays very brave, I simply lost trust in all cloudmining, because the treshold is very low to just pick up the shit and disappear, don't trust it anymore :)
Title: Re: Top Cloud Miners Compared by Profitability Post by: anderson00673 on August 03, 2015, 07:51:55 PM I find any person willing to pay a cloud mining company nowadays very brave, I simply lost trust in all cloudmining, because the treshold is very low to just pick up the shit and disappear, don't trust it anymore :) I think hashnest is good though, they are owned by bitmain who makes the hardware, so there is some nice synergy there. Title: Re: Top Cloud Miners Compared by Profitability Post by: yeponlyone on August 03, 2015, 09:46:41 PM I'm not a math guy, but have anyone done calculations on zeushash's (yes, I know...) Halley GHS B and their Batch I VGHS...?
Title: Re: Top Cloud Miners Compared by Profitability Post by: kaprosuchus on August 04, 2015, 02:27:20 PM I'm not a math guy, but have anyone done calculations on zeushash's (yes, I know...) Halley GHS B and their Batch I VGHS...? Halley B added to profitability table. It has a lower fee percentage and lower daily payout percentage. Halley B is currently ranked 13th and Halley A is in 11th place at the moment. As for VGHSv130--------------------------------------------------------- Without the payback at 30 days, mining only, days to break even is: -5441.700637 (with diff projection). Current expected (mining only) return for 1GH/S of VGHSv1 for 30 days is about 0.0002886 BTC or $0.08089 at current rates. In real terms, you're looking at an estimated 101.35041736227046% earned in 30 days. Or 117.4644629848477% if compounded over 12 months. Title: Re: Top Cloud Miners Compared by Profitability Post by: kaprosuchus on August 06, 2015, 05:07:58 PM I added two more tables today the first shows how the payout rankings would look if BTC went up 50% and the second shows what would happen if BTC went down 50%.
Check them out and let me know what you think... ;) https://sites.google.com/site/freebitcoinsforall/ (https://sites.google.com/site/freebitcoinsforall/) Title: Re: Top Cloud Miners Compared by Profitability Post by: Aleator on August 06, 2015, 08:02:01 PM I think you should not use hashlets or anything related to gaw anymore :D Title: Re: Top Cloud Miners Compared by Profitability Post by: kaprosuchus on August 07, 2015, 02:53:20 PM https://forum.gethashing.com/uploads/default/original/2X/d/dc9a258e65ebd1499735fc2bf97b64a0313de7aa.png (https://sites.google.com/site/freebitcoinsforall/) Updated cloud miners ranked by daily payout here: https://sites.google.com/site/freebitcoinsforall/ (https://sites.google.com/site/freebitcoinsforall/) ;) Title: Re: Top Cloud Miners Compared by Profitability Post by: yeponlyone on August 13, 2015, 06:34:43 PM Hashnest has released a new offer today, PACMiC v3. They have lowered the prize from 1BTC to 0.666 and increased the "bonus rate" to 0.8.
Should make your list, I think? Title: Re: Top Cloud Miners Compared by Profitability Post by: LsHallo on August 13, 2015, 07:06:59 PM I would like if you add gigahash.org to your list. If needed i can provide you the daily dividends, but they are public also.
They have 3 Types of mining offers: GHASH1 (Higher fee) [Sold Out] GHASH2 (Newer miner, higher price) SHASH1 (Scrypt cloud mining) [Sold Out] Title: Re: Top Cloud Miners Compared by Profitability Post by: kaprosuchus on August 17, 2015, 04:16:04 PM Hashnest has released a new offer today, PACMiC v3. They have lowered the prize from 1BTC to 0.666 and increased the "bonus rate" to 0.8. Should make your list, I think? That looks like a significant improvement! Title: Re: Top Cloud Miners Compared by Profitability Post by: kaprosuchus on August 18, 2015, 01:35:40 PM I would like if you add gigahash.org to your list. If needed i can provide you the daily dividends, but they are public also. They have 3 Types of mining offers: GHASH1 (Higher fee) [Sold Out] GHASH2 (Newer miner, higher price) SHASH1 (Scrypt cloud mining) [Sold Out] Thanks for the suggestion. I'll check it out! Title: Re: Top Cloud Miners Compared by Profitability Post by: kaprosuchus on August 19, 2015, 02:22:34 PM With BTC at $233 - UMISOO and the AntS2's are currently underwater...
Title: Re: Top Cloud Miners Compared by Profitability Post by: ColderThanIce on August 19, 2015, 10:32:48 PM With BTC at $233 - UMISOO and the AntS2's are currently underwater... Bit-X cloud mining is in a similar situation as well. A user in their thread (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=874312.msg12186551#msg12186551) mentioned that with the current price of bitcoin, Bit-x is taking an 82% fee on cloud mining, so probably a good idea to stay away from there until the price recovers.Title: Re: Top Cloud Miners Compared by Profitability Post by: crazyivan on August 20, 2015, 05:25:49 AM This is why I ve been telling people for the last 6 months to switch to PoS coins. It s much safer and equality profitable. Staking is the future of mining.
Title: Re: Top Cloud Miners Compared by Profitability Post by: lissandra on August 20, 2015, 05:46:41 AM ever since that cloudminr incident with the "supposedly" we got hacked and never came something like pbmining did without making it seem like a incident.
where do you guys really park some partial mining with cloud? or do you not do it at all.. I mean hasnest is legit but the fees seem too high. Title: Re: Top Cloud Miners Compared by Profitability Post by: ColderThanIce on August 20, 2015, 03:21:03 PM ever since that cloudminr incident with the "supposedly" we got hacked and never came something like pbmining did without making it seem like a incident. If you're looking to grow your bitcoins, I'd recommend staying away from cloud mining because, like you mentioned, many of them are scams. The ones that aren't scams have high maintenance fees and it isn't worth investing there either, especially with the drop in bitcoin price we've seen in the past couple of days. Look into loaning instead if you want to grow your bitcoin.where do you guys really park some partial mining with cloud? or do you not do it at all.. I mean hasnest is legit but the fees seem too high. Title: Re: Top Cloud Miners Compared by Profitability Post by: kaprosuchus on August 31, 2015, 12:50:19 PM UMISOO and AntS2 have been removed from rankings...
Title: Re: Top Cloud Miners Compared by Profitability Post by: toni_maroni on September 15, 2015, 08:50:09 PM please remove zeushash too, you cant buy VGHSv1 30day,
and zeushash its a scam Title: Re: Top Cloud Miners Compared by Profitability Post by: kaprosuchus on December 09, 2015, 02:51:31 PM HashNest prices updated and AntS7 profitability added to the list.
Title: Re: Top Cloud Miners Compared by Profitability Post by: kaprosuchus on December 15, 2015, 09:48:08 PM AntS5 Numbers: (CORRECTED) https://forum.gethashing.com/uploads/default/original/2X/8/80fab584167ab28adc83db6033d808e148a4366f.png https://sites.google.com/site/freebitcoinsforall/ (https://sites.google.com/site/freebitcoinsforall/) Title: Re: Top Cloud Miners Compared by Profitability Post by: kaprosuchus on December 17, 2015, 03:40:44 PM My AntS5 numbers were miscalculated. I posted the update above.
Title: Re: Top Cloud Miners Compared by Profitability Post by: kaprosuchus on December 17, 2015, 04:15:47 PM I re-examined my StakeMiners calculation and the revised break-even estimate looks like 822 days. However with the declining value of alt-coins this 822 day estimate seems overly optimistic.
I recently had enough "faith" to invest in the HashNest AntS5s even though the break-even estimate currently shows 183 days which is again a bit overly optimistic I'm afraid. In the past I've said that bitcoin mining is like investing in magic ice cubes. You have to make sure your magic ice cubes are producing more magic ice cubes faster than the melt rate. According to my calculations, you should not re-invest your magic ice cube payouts unless you are making at least 1.7% of your original investment daily. Now I'm thinking you should not re-invest your payouts unless your daily profit is at least 0.5% greater than your daily GH/s market re-sale value loss which is currently about -2.24% on the AntS5s which would make your target daily payout 2.74% which is a pretty astronomical rate of return. I posted some numbers related to my S5 profitability near the top of my page (link below). https://sites.google.com/site/freebitcoinsforall/ (https://sites.google.com/site/freebitcoinsforall/) Title: Re: Top Cloud Miners Compared by Profitability Post by: kaprosuchus on December 28, 2015, 02:50:13 PM AntS5 Numbers: (UPDATED) https://forum.gethashing.com/uploads/default/original/2X/f/f12f1324964d0e08a7125de51324680aab87d9a9.png https://sites.google.com/site/freebitcoinsforall/ (https://sites.google.com/site/freebitcoinsforall/) Title: Re: Top Cloud Miners Compared by Profitability Post by: toni_maroni on December 28, 2015, 03:26:49 PM please remove zeushash too, you cant buy VGHSv1 30day, weekly scam promoter no1: and zeushash is a scam https://i.imgur.com/Mjb6mAF.jpg (https://i.imgur.com/hmiZmJ4) how much referals do you need to reach zeushash-referal-ranking place 1? edit: switch from directupload to imgur Title: Re: Top Cloud Miners Compared by Profitability Post by: kaprosuchus on December 28, 2015, 05:28:49 PM My net payouts are averaging 0.5633255135% (of principal) per day.
So, yes, I am "making money" by that measure. However, the market value of my S5 is losing 0.988703552% a day. So, when I combine the market value of my S5 GH/s and my total payouts, if I sold everything today I would lose 8.50756077% of my principal. Obviously I'm hoping that with enough time, my payouts will outpace my losses. I certainly hope it will be less than my estimated 796 days-to-break-even, but with another large (12.45%) diff increase in the next 2.7 days, I guess only time will tell. I'm posting these numbers to try and cut through the cloud of hype that masks a realistic understanding of Bitcoin mining's profit potential. Title: Re: Top Cloud Miners Compared by Profitability Post by: kaprosuchus on December 28, 2015, 05:34:09 PM @toni_maroni
Apparently 1 is enough on a Monday (for the weekly ranking you give as an example). Did you know your screenshot link includes a pop-up advertisement? Title: Re: Top Cloud Miners Compared by Profitability Post by: kaprosuchus on January 07, 2016, 02:52:42 PM AntS5 Numbers: (UPDATED) https://forum.gethashing.com/uploads/default/original/2X/0/0eea2337d2e9f933b8a492c37f4c599209d5a792.png https://sites.google.com/site/freebitcoinsforall/ (https://sites.google.com/site/freebitcoinsforall/) Title: Re: Top Cloud Miners Compared by Profitability Post by: kaprosuchus on January 13, 2016, 10:33:08 PM Note: AntS3 is now underwater after the last difficulty increase and slight BTC/USD dip.
Title: Re: Top Cloud Miners Compared by Profitability Post by: kaprosuchus on January 14, 2016, 04:56:18 PM AntS5 Numbers: (UPDATED) https://forum.gethashing.com/uploads/default/original/2X/6/6c1c7fedfb1825841da23f814a53d7222e57e3b4.png https://sites.google.com/site/freebitcoinsforall/ (https://sites.google.com/site/freebitcoinsforall/) Title: Re: Top Cloud Miners Compared by Profitability Post by: kaprosuchus on January 18, 2016, 02:12:01 PM AntS5 Numbers (day 41): (UPDATED) https://forum.gethashing.com/uploads/default/original/2X/5/59fdccac4e9efc02190fc1fd6faaf0ecb847bbc3.png https://sites.google.com/site/freebitcoinsforall/ (https://sites.google.com/site/freebitcoinsforall/) Title: Re: Top Cloud Miners Compared by Profitability Post by: marty123 on January 18, 2016, 02:54:08 PM Looks like the OP has not been updated for long time, scrypt and many others are ponzis.
Title: Re: Top Cloud Miners Compared by Profitability Post by: Temo58 on January 18, 2016, 06:59:10 PM Hm makes Pacmic v1 look pretty enticing. I just hate having bitcoin tied up where I can not sell it which is why I have always been investing recently in the S3s. The S5s and S4s are expensive for the value although the S5 is enticing due to the daily volume making it much easier to get out at a reasonable price.
Title: Re: Top Cloud Miners Compared by Profitability Post by: kaprosuchus on January 19, 2016, 06:31:41 PM The image details exactly how my (AntS5) profit has declined over the past 41 days.
My starting daily payout was 0.7341805919% of my principal. My current daily payout is 0.262949915062229% of my principal. My average daily payout declines -1.968164087% every day. If this rate of decline remains stable, I will only make back 33.36612811% of my principal. In other words, at this rate I will never make my money back and instead I will lose 66.63387189% of my investment. The two key factors contributing to payout decline are difficulty increase and BTC/USD denominated fees. If you would like further explanation, please let me know. Title: Re: Top Cloud Miners Compared by Profitability Post by: kaprosuchus on January 19, 2016, 10:15:33 PM Hm makes Pacmic v1 look pretty enticing. I just hate having bitcoin tied up where I can not sell it which is why I have always been investing recently in the S3s. The S5s and S4s are expensive for the value although the S5 is enticing due to the daily volume making it much easier to get out at a reasonable price. Note: the S3 is currently underwater and the S4 fees are 97.05022905974230% of expected PPS earnings... Title: Re: Top Cloud Miners Compared by Profitability Post by: toni_maroni on January 19, 2016, 10:18:10 PM S7 kicked S3 and S4 out,
16nm do the same with S5 and maybe S7 late buyed s5 will never reach roi, 16nm is on the way Title: Re: Top Cloud Miners Compared by Profitability Post by: crazyivan on January 20, 2016, 09:26:17 AM Yes, home and cloud mining does seem as a lost cause. What s left?
Proof of stake mining. I recommend DMD Diamond coin. Title: Re: Top Cloud Miners Compared by Profitability Post by: kaprosuchus on February 01, 2016, 06:42:19 PM AntS5 Numbers (day 50): (UPDATED) https://forum.gethashing.com/uploads/default/original/2X/a/a8034d53bb563a586820e2dc9045d86a23f1feb2.png https://sites.google.com/site/freebitcoinsforall/ (https://sites.google.com/site/freebitcoinsforall/) Title: Re: Top Cloud Miners Compared by Profitability Post by: kaprosuchus on February 05, 2016, 11:26:10 PM AntS5 Numbers (day 59): (UPDATED) https://forum.gethashing.com/uploads/default/original/2X/5/546bb715d0dbc901d7e3b78a04ecd4b2c70d432c.png https://sites.google.com/site/freebitcoinsforall/ (https://sites.google.com/site/freebitcoinsforall/) Title: Re: Top Cloud Miners Compared by Profitability Post by: kaprosuchus on February 16, 2016, 06:38:40 PM AntS5 Numbers (day 70): (UPDATED) https://forum.gethashing.com/uploads/default/original/2X/8/8994ce74a071d53940933e369d3072a983fdec49.png https://sites.google.com/site/freebitcoinsforall/ (https://sites.google.com/site/freebitcoinsforall/) Title: Re: Top Cloud Miners Compared by Profitability Post by: kaprosuchus on February 23, 2016, 07:03:00 PM The image details exactly how my (AntS5) profit has declined over the past 70 days.
My starting daily payout was 0.7341805919% of my principal. My current daily payout is 0.1171920740751260% of my principal. My average daily payout declines -1.332518616% every day. If this rate of decline remains stable, I will only make back 34.9358556% of my principal. In other words, at this rate I will never make my money back and instead I will lose 65.0641444% of my investment. The two key factors contributing to payout decline are difficulty increase and BTC/USD denominated fees. If you would like further explanation, please let me know. Title: Re: Top Cloud Miners Compared by Profitability Post by: techgeek on February 23, 2016, 11:06:49 PM The image details exactly how my (AntS5) profit has declined over the past 70 days. My starting daily payout was 0.7341805919% of my principal. My current daily payout is 0.1171920740751260% of my principal. My average daily payout declines -1.332518616% every day. If this rate of decline remains stable, I will only make back 34.9358556% of my principal. In other words, at this rate I will never make my money back and instead I will lose 65.0641444% of my investment. The two key factors contributing to payout decline are difficulty increase and BTC/USD denominated fees. If you would like further explanation, please let me know. Thanks for this thread and your updates. This just makes me to confirm my thoughts on mining in general. To see a negative # of days to get paid out just disgusts me. I`m guessing youre really either in it for the long haul or this is spare money. Title: Re: Top Cloud Miners Compared by Profitability Post by: kaprosuchus on March 07, 2016, 11:38:05 PM AntS5 Numbers (day 90): (UPDATED) https://forum.gethashing.com/uploads/default/original/2X/f/fe05c312e83b97303e2588b43581c8b5ad3633e1.png https://sites.google.com/site/freebitcoinsforall/ (https://sites.google.com/site/freebitcoinsforall/) Title: Re: Top Cloud Miners Compared by Profitability Post by: kaprosuchus on March 17, 2016, 09:53:26 PM AntS5 Numbers (day 100): (UPDATED) https://forum.gethashing.com/uploads/default/original/2X/4/41a7d37e66705e866c17041ba65c17fc7942c7cd.png https://sites.google.com/site/freebitcoinsforall/ (https://sites.google.com/site/freebitcoinsforall/) Title: Re: Top Cloud Miners Compared by Profitability Post by: kaprosuchus on March 29, 2016, 04:30:28 PM AntS5 Numbers (day 112): (UPDATED) https://forum.gethashing.com/uploads/default/original/2X/e/e69efd9b47fff59386e526da94972854dd7ee678.png https://sites.google.com/site/freebitcoinsforall/ (https://sites.google.com/site/freebitcoinsforall/) Title: Re: Top Cloud Miners Compared by Profitability Post by: kingaltcoins on March 29, 2016, 06:29:10 PM Hashnest's profits are declining drastically!
Maybe we should wait some time for their next release i,e. S8 And most importantly the company is now profiting with their newly introduction to lottery hashes. Title: Re: Top Cloud Miners Compared by Profitability Post by: kaprosuchus on April 08, 2016, 01:50:02 PM AntS5 Numbers (day 121): (UPDATED) https://forum.gethashing.com/uploads/default/original/2X/6/6af3229e2ae51ba16df594e799bfc0c90c55668d.png https://sites.google.com/site/freebitcoinsforall/ (https://sites.google.com/site/freebitcoinsforall/) Title: Re: Top Cloud Miners Compared by Profitability Post by: kaprosuchus on April 12, 2016, 08:38:41 PM Final Profit -51.7185317326379%.
Title: Re: Top Cloud Miners Compared by Profitability Post by: kaprosuchus on November 15, 2016, 09:31:04 PM The Ant-S9 based PACMiCv5 might be worth looking into... ;)
Title: Re: Top Cloud Miners Compared by Profitability Post by: leowonderful on November 15, 2016, 10:29:29 PM The Ant-S9 based PACMiCv5 might be worth looking into... ;) Relatively low risk contract from a relatively reputable company, I'd say that the chance of bitmain collapsing during the duration of a contract is pretty low as of now. It's also supposedly the lowest risk that they have offered in a while, and they also return your investment once the contract is over. Nice passive investment, but there is always a chance that bitmain will die, which is pretty small.Title: Re: Top Cloud Miners Compared by Profitability Post by: crazyivan on November 16, 2016, 06:21:48 AM The Ant-S9 based PACMiCv5 might be worth looking into... ;) Relatively low risk contract from a relatively reputable company, I'd say that the chance of bitmain collapsing during the duration of a contract is pretty low as of now. It's also supposedly the lowest risk that they have offered in a while, and they also return your investment once the contract is over. Nice passive investment, but there is always a chance that bitmain will die, which is pretty small.They re safe but the return is low, bellow 4% annually. That much I can in my local bank. Risk always matches return. Title: Re: Top Cloud Miners Compared by Profitability Post by: kaprosuchus on November 16, 2016, 02:46:54 PM Wells Fargo and Bank of America are currently paying 0.01% Annual Percentage Yield on savings accounts... ;)
Title: Re: Top Cloud Miners Compared by Profitability Post by: Gahs on November 16, 2016, 02:57:19 PM That seems to pay more than cloud mining. Which makes me ask, since cloud miners make so little money mining with S5s, why not mine a SHA256 altcoin instead and if so, which SHA256 alt is most profitable to mine?
Title: Re: Top Cloud Miners Compared by Profitability Post by: kaprosuchus on November 16, 2016, 06:12:20 PM That seems to pay more than cloud mining. Which makes me ask, since cloud miners make so little money mining with S5s, why not mine a SHA256 altcoin instead and if so, which SHA256 alt is most profitable to mine? The Ant-S9 based PACMiCv5 looks pretty nice (way better than 0.01% a year) and ZCASH looks like an ideal ALTCOIN. ;) Title: Re: Top Cloud Miners Compared by Profitability Post by: ArdiPrabowo on November 17, 2016, 06:42:09 AM your write is investment cloud mining in zeus
only one month, 29 day can get BEP, in there equal can gert profit over 3%/day so zeus is real mining or only ponzy scheme, because return is over high Title: Re: Top Cloud Miners Compared by Profitability Post by: kaprosuchus on November 17, 2016, 03:13:55 PM your write is investment cloud mining in zeus only one month, 29 day can get BEP, in there equal can gert profit over 3%/day so zeus is real mining or only ponzy scheme, because return is over high VGHSv1 30DAY is no longer available. It has been marked as "SOLD OUT" since June 25 2015. ;) Title: Re: Top Cloud Miners Compared by Profitability Post by: allcloudminers on January 11, 2017, 09:10:22 PM Allcloudminers just published a complete cloud mining calculation for Genesis Mining and Hashflare cloud mining. Also, there are ViaBTC and Hashing24. Allcloudminers also have older calculations from many other cloud mining companies on their blog.
Allcloudminers also present reviews from all cloud mining companies with ROI, payout charts, profitability calculator and much more. They also have Earn free bitcoin, Earn free Ether, Earn bitcoin interest and earn Ether interest. Check the latest blog post about the compared profitability. http://www.allcloudminers.com/2017/01/11/new-cloud-mining-calculation/ Title: Re: Top Cloud Miners Compared by Profitability Post by: kaprosuchus on September 07, 2017, 03:28:21 PM FYI the AntL3 Bitmain/Hashnet mining is NOT currently profitable.
Title: Re: Top Cloud Miners Compared by Profitability Post by: sjbi on September 08, 2017, 08:57:03 AM Does anybody have a recent list of paying cloud miner and their ROI as of current.
It seems genesis, hashflare, viabtc, minergate and eobot are the remaining legit options. Title: Re: Top Cloud Miners Compared by Profitability Post by: kaprosuchus on September 08, 2017, 04:32:02 PM Does anybody have a recent list of paying cloud miner and their ROI as of current. It seems genesis, hashflare, viabtc, minergate and eobot are the remaining legit options. Genesis and Bitmain are the only two I would trust at all. I haven't tested the Genesis Ethereum and Monero 2 year contracts but I'm going to guess you'll only make about 90% of your money back. I bought a little ZCASH mining on Genesis and I've made about 80% of my money back after one year. Title: Re: Top Cloud Miners Compared by Profitability Post by: caelangilbert on September 09, 2017, 03:11:28 PM thank you for the information. whether it is the result of btc mining alone, or something else.? ;D Title: Re: Top Cloud Miners Compared by Profitability Post by: xIIImaL on September 09, 2017, 05:49:59 PM Does anybody have a recent list of paying cloud miner and their ROI as of current. It seems genesis, hashflare, viabtc, minergate and eobot are the remaining legit options. Genesis and Bitmain are the only two I would trust at all. I haven't tested the Genesis Ethereum and Monero 2 year contracts but I'm going to guess you'll only make about 90% of your money back. I bought a little ZCASH mining on Genesis and I've made about 80% of my money back after one year. I understand that altcoins mining is better than bitcoin by seeing in profit wise. Genesis mostly used cloud mining site but they will consume the daily charge right! You need to buy a hash power to get the profit else you cannot make it through. Normally no one will get into cloud mining platform because of payment scams and non stability issue. |
